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you are afraid that we will post things you don't like
It's the actor that played Tuvok.
you're not even playing you're on your phone
Small secret: I can't block or unblock you from posting gifs, and even when they turned off permissions and before I was a mod I was still posting gifs.
I am. I'm at work, remember?
so you're playing at your work
malzian would you agree that any gif discord allows in their gif search is thereby accepted by discord tos, and thereby it is acceptable to post in any discord?
can I ask what you do for a living?'
work is no longer a word it's just a weird sound what the hell have you done
IT.
I've seen some sketchy gifs search...
basically my theory is no server should take issue with a gif provided by discord
yeah it for what
of course so many are NSFW
For IT.
BUT discord provides them!
the main issue with gifs is that ppl spam them and it's annoying
revoking image perms is the best thing u can do
well you can work in for it for a lot of companies
the other issue with gifs is a lot are violent/or NSFW and yet discord provides them
discord doesnt provide them, tenor does
which means moderators have to step in, should be that discord manages what they allow better
is it security is it surveillance is it for a normal company what is it
Most of my gifs come from Tenor, yes.
I'm not telling you that.
might as well tell him ur fll name and adress while ur at it pal
typing with my potato fingie is hard
its cool mate ita cool, so it's something important then
I thought we established that finger is no more.
it grew back a bit
saying what you do for work isn't very revealing though
frog powers idk man
like nobody can find me if i say i work in retail
I said what I do for work, I do IT.
the clown?!
let me guess it is a currency for a company
I haven't seen him in the Discord lately.
If I'm not going to tell you what makes you think I'm going to confirm anything you try and guess?
no that'd be creepy
malzian would be like WTF
a lot of people i know want to do IT/security for hospitals for some reason
I like to guess and you just told me the answer
I also do CS related stuff in a hospital
Because medical software is so outdated and broken that you need a phd to figure out how to keep it working

haha see, you started there
i was close!
The hacks....
I worked in veterinary medicine before the games industry and good god it was like I time traveled back to the 90s with the kind of software we had to work with
I wasn't in IT then.
oh ok
couple years back the irish healthcare service got held up for ransom womp womp
you must be paid pretty well being it security
And my first job was at a supermarket, like many people my age when they turned 18.
Medical software may be broken and outdated, but on the other hand it is also really expensive 
Yeah it's the best of both worlds really
toast i need a job, tell keen you need an assistant
Love hospitals paying 6 figure sums for some janky java sql mix
well you should be paid more than
Fun fact: Everyone who works in IT is in some form or another working in IT security.
Even if it's not your primary job function, it's part of your job.
you don't have to hate me
Because every part of an IT system is an attack surface.
While simultaniously implementing a few security flaws so you can browse reddit while at work, while ensuring nobody else can
it's okay it's okay
This is so close to reality, it's scary
if you're a technician, who works in IT, you're technically a TIT.
I mean, I'm in charge so I do what I want.
I do like a crested tit
The plastic-footed variety
as I said it's okay mate it's okay we don't hate you for what you do
it must be hard
I'm much less fond of peckers...... damn things like to smack on the gutters in the morning.
nah you are up and awake before those bastards starts to work
I saw one trying to make a nest in a metal street lamp pole and just dinging over and over again, felt kinda bad lol
It was probably like "WHY IS THIS TREE SO DENSE"
he prolly has brain damage
No, they do this on purpose. Looking for a mate. The more noise they make, the more "suitable" they seem, so they seek out metal now to make as loud a noise as they can.
Oh that's actually really neat lol
yeah you can because you haven't slept yet
I think in this case it's both.
that is what it security people do they are awake when we sleep
They're also asleep when you're asleep, they have chronic fatigue
We're also asleep when we're awake.
no we not
This explains hooman mens behaviour too π€
nothing explains men's behaviour
Do not get me started on a topic you don't want to hear my opinions on.
they've confounded academia for thousands of years
Also true ^^
give me permission to post a gift and I will outrun you
how 2 not get image perms
I told you already, I don't have that authority here.
Ive heard the range of opinions, im steeled. I keep it women-for-women anyways.
But it was more an apt easy joke followup ^^ no energy for grand discussion either ^^
Soon time for more enshrouded ^^
me
The Blues.
who is the Blues
I have the power to disable gifs playing on my client ^^ best decision ever ^^
You truly have missed out on some of my prime memes then.
not now cake
If you don't know then it's already too late.
Ive seen the still shot 'trailers' ^^
But erryone is convinced their meme-gifs are the best, thats why its so nice to disable them ^^
Also when youve used '112gb data' just cus people decided to memespam for an hour ^^
well I guess it's too late then
i have the power to block people and not get the message that they typed - i had to devise how to do this because people were complaining they could see i typed after they blocked me and then using it as justification for a ban. lol so i was like here, let me find a fix in discord for you.
β I remember the twigs and the rake was a huge enshrouded meta 'back in the day', early 2024, a few months ago ^^
just know all I wanted was a gift from Eldorado playing the guitar
whose eldorado
it's been a long time since I was a kid
The tenor adress text sums up the gifs quicker anyways ^^
Rake? As in mass gathering?
The rake is a legendary tool in ancient enshrouded history!
Everyone needed it
Few got it
^^
im too lazy to click that.
Oooo! The raaaaake!!
lol jk
noob question, but i'm trying to figure out how the multiplayer works. If i create a character and play on my own game/ server whatever. Can i join others as the same character ?
would be easier if I could post it as a gift
There was a point where there was a bug that if you unlocked the Scrappy rake without crafting the normal rake, it's recipe disappeared and you could never craft a rake again.
Yes.
Got it, so it;s kinda like FO 76 then?
And bowkind was screaming for more twigs ^^
More like Valheim.
More like conan exiles
I haven't played Valheim outside of single player
Its not alot like valheim
Huh. Well. What I don't know I can't miss
It has food buffs, thats it
The character system is.
Character system is more like conan exiles
if you single player quests in enshrouded? and then join a MP world to start from beginning with same character? will you have those quests completed?
Ive played a ton of Ark / Empyrion / WoW / etc, where characters are tied to server
Some yes, some no.
v rising is it look like the game except you see it from above and you are vampire
apparently when becoming a vampire you can't make an informed decision about being one
i learned this the other day
Conan Exiles, characters are tied to servers and cannot move around. In Valheim, you can bring a fully geared character into a new server and you can do the same in Enshrouded.
V Rising is fun but it's a lot more focused on grinding and "survival" elements than it is on exploration and building/creativity like our game, at least that's how I see it.
Single player conan, singleplayer botw, singleplayer enshrouded.
I dont mp ^^
same here for the most part, but I like having the option
always play single player I don't like playing with others
Also wouldnt wanna join another world with op char anyways ^^
Other people ruin the vibe ^^ they gonna yell about burgers and doing laundry ^^
even in Ark, beyond general chat, I keep to myself lol. Just like seeing what other people have built
i yell at people who use dump chests
I have to go my boyfriend is coming over soon
just sort your stuff for 20 minutes like i do
Or; they find out ur not a 'dude', then the rest of the experience downhills from there.. ^^
i usually find its the reverse
Either annoyingly butterup'like, or annpyongly toxic
they find out your not a girl and experience is downhill π
cya all
They stop being normal ^^
they find out they being catfished
I just prefer focusing on the game and story.
See I'm not "normal" just because I think I'm playing with other guys.... I'm abnormal all the time.
With everyone.
I named the box for Wolf components in our recent Valheim run "Dead Wolves" because I thought it would be funny.
that seems normal still
There's another box named "All Drake (No Kanye)"
Another one named "Morgen Freeman".
and their AI keeps tracking to walk in front you while you're building or to somehow go upstairs all the time
probably the most accurate or worst dog AI i've seen in a game
hard to tell
"Lox (on Bagel)"
WAit you can name boxes?
I'm talking about Valheim, and we place signs by boxes to say what's in them.
ah
That's not in Enshrouded..... yet.
Could be a future feature
I just started the game, loving this a lot so far.
(like a bloody auto-move button)
It's on the road map.
Is the roadmap somewhere online for perusal?
yes
The one with things they've done checked off is on Twitter.
there we go.
The checked off version is here: https://x.com/KeenGamesStudio/status/1798377011133690239?t=uDPwD_a3MYz84lB1H3qh6Q&s=19
ha with the stonks meme
so they are basically done, they need a new roadmap now
There is PLENTY on the Upvote site to do.
17 completed, 13 not done, 6 in progress, they can add 17 more things.
to fill it out again
Can they not completely finish what they've 'promised' before they promise more?
Game is dead tho and hasnt had an update in 2 days ^^
yes, or there can always be 36 items on the roadmap
π€
17 are done so there is only 19 on the roadmap
^^ sorry
Is their roadmap a lifeforce for you?
they should take weather off roadmap, and that frees up roadmap for 10 lower key things
I dunno, I think it's more hype to do them all and be like "look! We completed all the items from our previous roadmap. Here's whats next."
weather is so annoying anyone who played valheim was never happy about a 3 days storm while building in the dark
Weather is vibe
Game is dead as in player population? I just started ^^
I haven't looked in a while... but isn't weather one of the highly voted additions? o.O
The game cant be dead because it's not 'alive' to start with. It's not an MMO or live service ^^
Just behind water.
No its not dead at all ^^ its also not a 'erryone online live service' type game
they could just release a second roadmap, with 17 more things, for after they finish the current roadmap
no reason it can't be released now
just dont put a date on it
They dont need to make more roadmaps yet
I gotcha, thank you cod and Ellis β€οΈ Lovely game here still ^^
Yes β€οΈ
yeah but people are... misguided.
Says you.
Weather can be fine.
Its not the same as valheim anywaya
and listing the 1 million things they need to do next
Its not like "games with weather is just like valheim"
if i need to build, weather is always bad.
Theres plenty alot of games with good weather systems
always, if i need to explore it's fine
Its not just a build game
i know but im saying the condition in which weather is a disservice.
Building is an aside. A good one, but an aside
Im not playing enhrouded to build, im sure there are others too.
Not having feature x because of it feels moot
in planet crafter when there is a meteor storm and i am building it's annoying, in fact it's annoying even when exploring the only good thing about it is the meteor storms drop resources i might need, so it's a good example of weather actually being useful.
Planet crafter is even less like enshrouded
i wouldn't describe building as an aside..
I would
they probably have 1/3rd of their coding time into the build system alone
Is there scary things in Enshrouded? It feels eerie to me (Which I like hehe)
hmmm the ability to "lose" an enemy needs work because I am getting metagaming enemies who find me up three flights of stairs when they shouldn't even know what building I'm in
keep v rising out your mouth
You place an altar and can just place npcs and workstations right around it,
Nothing needs building ^^ but one can build
for a player who considers building an aside, the game has overall less value for you, because you will do all content, and then have not much to do. for me i can play an extra 1000 hours just building and get way more value out of the game, the fact that i can explore 200 hours, but build for 1000, means building is not an aside.
its less value based on hours played.
The building is way more fun than Valheim, ARK, Fallout 4, and Medieval Dynasty.
If you base value on hours played. Not everyone does.
I build alot, but in another game where its huge and free ^^
I love enshrouded as i do botw, i explore alot and adventure. If its 'only 200 hours' doesnt matter to me
Now I know that's a troll comment. Building in Medival Dynasty is not only restricting, it's horribly tedious, and I LOVE grindy games
And you can't go 2 minutes without hearing a goddamn pop culture reference
Yeah that's what I'm saying - Enshrouded doesn't feel grindy. Which might make it the best in genre.
i just don't personally want weather starting and lasting forever the second i decide to sit down and build something in the game, personally.
Oh, forgive me I just woke up. I read that as "the building is way more fun IN" not Than π
Also, NEVER. Accuse me. Of trolling. Only thing I hate more than having words put in my mouth is being called a liar.
I build in TU, where i can make small open world maps even with 20'000+ objects and even make quests ^^ freeform, any shape, any texture. I play other games to do other things then confine myself ^^
Kira, hello! Haven't seen you in a while.
Hey love! π
Eeshkabogger π
Noone has said it has to work just like you imagine ^^
Yeah, Killercod - things got a bit nutty IRL, so I haven't been around much π
you spilled a jar of peanut butter?
but you know, new update and all ^_^
Can full heartedly understand that one! Hopefully nothing too dramatic though ^^
I love the Combat already β€οΈ
If only - lol
she writin an essay.....
lol - Nothing in my life is ever really dramatic. xD
ROFL - I was going into details but then decided no one really cares that much, they just ask to be nice, which you guys are. ^_^
well they are. Gorb, I'm still deciding π
Sober im no fun and usually a deck, but otherwise im usually a decent guy
I like giving people the oppurtunity to voice their frustrations if need be ^^ I give you a pat on the back for having the 'nothing is really dramatic' approach though! π
I only give drama when people bash my favorite game. π€£
Can feel that π
You missed someone being upset about how the bard looks
Man. I love how the game lets me try and punch above my weight. No level scaling that i can detect. I'm able to accidentally walk right into higher level enemies and somewhat stand a chance because of my B.D.D. build
π€£ I mean, people have to be upset about something, right?
Guess I'l find out about the bard later lol. I'm trying to find...holw on who am i looking for right now?
My only complaint about the bard is that she doesn't play music when not being interacted with π€£
She def should do that
and the only reason for that is because she's in my tavern.
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Great idea
I want to give her 5 runes, then she can sing "The Flameborn comes" or something
will strength increase damage dealt by daggers? or only dex
only dex
oh no... not sing, just play music. I just recently played Skyrim and had a bard in my house... I wanted to defenestrate him by about day 2.
Fair enough 
lol. Sorry, the bugger was singing off key, it was killing me π€£
The singing in skyrim is very.. avantgarde
I like it, but I think I also wouldn't like to have one of them in my house lmao
At least the Valentine can sing on key. I always stop to listen to him in Starfield ^_^
so.. we have gotten 2 big updates now and still no lvl cap increase.. No incentives to play once I reached max lvl 25. Hollow Halls I can play but I won't gain anything other than the random gear and the crypt dude. Same with the Blackmire area. No point other than to get the Bard chick. WTH. We need a Lvl cap increase.
The game is still in development, this is not a DLC, where stuff happens in order.
Give it time. I personally like seeing them improving lower level areas as they progress as well. Less than half the map is accessible at this point
would you rather have them release the low level content they have been planning and creating at the end when it's even less useful?
You know... there is more to gaming than just numbers.
If you want spreadsheets online, go play EVE.
<quietly closes his POE build spreadsheet>
How many different songs can a player play now??
All these lower level areas will cause new players to max out before they even reach the Desert area without a level cap above 25 increase thats a big issue. I was maxed level, way before I completed the content that was available. I'm just sayin... Its not about numbers its about having a reason to play and gain new abilities. Without that ability it makes it like you have no other incentives to play other than to play with friends or to just build.
You are playing an early access game.
So you'd rather over level now and then be too high for any area's they release up until the very end of the game?
So was Valheim but they didn't lock us behind a lvl cap
There is no point to increasing the level honestly
There's nothing in the game that requires it.
Also... 'just' playing with friends and building is why a LOT of people play these types of games π
Valheim didn't lock you behind a level cap? LOL, youll never reach max level in valheim. If you do, you're cheating. No one has maxed all their stats in valheim ever yet without using mods or dev commands.
Why increase level cap if there is no content for higher levels? You'd just create an endless cycle where youa re too high level for the content.
so who is the 6th undiscovered survivor? 7th is bard but who is 6th?
Talk to the alchemist - he'll send you the right way
I'm sure the experience gain and leveling will receive balance passes as they continue development, too. There's still a lot of map for them to complete.
It's easy to forget that this game is in development because of how polished it already seems, but it is. More levels will come, things will be balanced, and more content will be added - just maybe not in the order you were hoping for. This is the way of Early Access games.
thanks
Bugger me. I hope the huntress is happy after all the crap I had to go through to get her spinning wheel.
I don't think she's ever truly happy. π€£ Especially in my village, she lives next to the Blacksmith and he's super cranky.
I just used it as a nice excuse to start over from lvl 1
I gave her, Her own tower away from the blacksmith.
Than she's probably much happier. xD
I think they all are. Everyone has their own house and work space with furniture and all the fixings.
I, for one, absolutely love the new zone. It has my creative juices flowing like crazy! π
I just started. All the zones are new zones to me
Do bones have a use apart from bone meal or am I clear to just dump all the bones off at the Alchemist's?
several furnishing items use them as well
and... I think some arrows, maybe not that though, I can't remember
and a building block.
Oh I accidentally harvested a bone block before haha.
hmm now i have a quest to build another altar. maybe in the next region over?
I donβt mind that theyβre releasing lower level content but I will say it kind of discourages me from playing it as I like to experience the game in a linear fashion the way it was meant to be played. I understand itβs early access, just expressing my thoughts on the matter.
I might just wait for full release to play again
Nothing wrong with that
Nope nothing wrong with that at all
I learned my lesson with sons of the forest. I kept restarting with every update to experience it linearly but by the time full release came out, I was kinda done with the game. I donβt want that to happen again with enshrouded for me
Yeah, everyone complains about how Valheim takes forever for their updates, but it kinda makes it a bit more 'fresh' when you come back.
Definitely don't burn yourself out before the game's even done
anyone getting crashing and minidump issues again but only in the new biome?
There have been a few reports of it. They did a hotfix to address some issues, but I'm sure they'll address more as they can.
i just wanna play 
Did you already follow all the instructions on the !minidump command to try and fix the issue?
while it's less likely to fix an issue just popping up within the new zone, it's always worth it to try. π
Where do I report bugs at?
from inside the game
F1 in game.
It's also in the escape menu as well
i havent as of yet, it is strange. we played for hours last night in the regular zones, when i goto the new zone, i get maybe 5 mins in before i crash 
holy crap! You can right click terrain with the construction hammer and chisel small chunks!!!!!!!!
Several people had a similar issue on hallowed halls when it was released. Unfortunately it's difficult to account for all hardware combinations and possible driver issues, and stuff like this is pretty typical for a new content release in any game. Sadly you just happened to fall into minority of people having the issues. - I would say send a bug report with your game log as well as any and all information you can, including system specs and driver version so they can start to narrow down what issue might be causing it.
... novel - sorry.
Still hoping an Animal Handler comes in with their companion as a Tailor, now that we have vanity, lets see more outfits and dye!
Animal farming and town NPCs are definitely highly upvoted features over on the upvote site
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Definitely go add your voice!
Isn't animal husbandry on the roadmap?
Yeah, they're both planned, but more upvotes and sub-suggestions as comments never hurt!
I think a lot of people are excited to be able to build alive feeling towns
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Hey tales. lol
You know what I appreciate? I appreciate that the build hammer doesn't have durability. β₯
is there an official upvote site?
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TY
Anyone know the best location to get mushroom flesh?
or at least a good one? xD
I have been using the tower, but it's a rough location to get it at.
Any big tree in blackmire that has the giant mushroom platforms/steps
How can I access admin panel ?
The beehives are, ironically, mushroom flesh.
No admin panel in game yet.
Are you stuck falling? If not, fast travel, otherwise relogging.
you'll have to leave the game and come back if you can't get out of it manually but picking your way out
or fast trafel π
Iβm stuck in the wall canβt do shit
yeah, you'll have to alt-f4 if you can't bring the menu up
you relog and are in the same location?
Yes bro
Relogging should put you back at your last home point... Weird.
Is it a private game or a hosted dedicated server?
Hosted on their PC?
in 10 minutes the summer game fest .)
Just found copper ore and it legit looks like copper - unlike Medieval Dynasty where copper ores look like crusty dragon scr*tums
how i change my co-op session password
no options for that
i maded new world never asked password, but friend cannot join
Actually, almost every survival game I've played gets copper ore wrong, even Enshrouded. Raw copper ore that's mostly copper is green.. Valheim gets it correct.
because password
Its got green in it.
Honestly I think it's more that just ores look extremely boring and uninteresting IRL so games usually spruce them up a bit lol
I'd say our games copper looks decently close though?
Havnt kept up after launch. Does the whole world still regen on server restart?
no, is not
I'd hardly call M.D.'s ores "spruced up". I compared them to a jagged pair of cajones for a reason.
I'm looking for a nice savegame with some awesome builds. But I can't find any good website to download from.
Any recommendations?
#1200109637815517184 has a lot of save files in those threads :)
5m away...location above..I'm in a forest.
Anyone knows where i can report ingame bugs?
I just wanted to say I love the update π
I've went full dnd-ranger after doing a mage run with the homies last patch. Loving the dagger/great axe combo.
And I adore the control on two handed weapons again. Being able to sweep nonstop has been quite useful for groups now that I've left behind my FIREBALL ways.
seems to have fixed itself now lol
Press F1 in game
Awesome thx!
Yes, anything that's not inside your flame altars
@chrome ravine F1 In Game
i have a issue with flame altar
the one i want in my base is like absurdly more difficult to click on it with mouse
like the hitbox of it was smaller or flicerking all time
anybody had such problem?
Yep, it's a known issue. If you zoom in on the map it's a little easier.
Or if you pick up that flame and put it back down, it can fix it. (Just be sure to re-upgrade your altar if you've got a big build)
Others have reported it fixing itself without doing anything too
jesus i hope they will fix it
@quiet geyser Because there is no endgame raid mmo content in this unfinished early access game? π€ and they 'only made mid level content this update' cus they think its a live service, i dunno. Current whiner meta
I personally like the game a lot, if they want endgame raid mmo content then go play WoW or ff14 lol....
or if they want something hard go play a souls game ffs
Yeah it seems to be some confused expectations on a newly early access action adventure/rpg somehow
with this argument you hide laziness:
-that's it, it'll stay that way, if you didn't like it, play another game.
and they don't need to bring anything new to the game
what
@chrome ravine They will and are bringing new content.
But its not made to keep your char and every update is a linear continuation progress.
Ea work is allpver the place.
And you cant have 'end game content' when we have 30% of the full map and the game isnt even at an end ywt
There is no endgame atm
Its also not gonna be a liveservice endgame kind of deal.
Its like complaining zelda doesnt have endgame chores to keep playing 4000 hours
What I'm referring to is that when they ask for new things to complement those they oppose, it is always supported by the thesis that if the person doesn't like it then they look for what they like.
its the problem with people who just never look at the fact that game is EARLY ACCESS and will whine about game bein unfinished
We know the game's current development model, but we shouldn't close ourselves off to suggestions
i just hope enshrouded wont end up like 7days
Game core is game core, it will have a normal end, and not endgame content.
No need to skew expectations, or wish for it to be another game
and that's why they complain, they don't want me to end the game, they're traumatized, it's understandable
But how do you know it's end game if they're always changing
Its a story based exploration game ala, botw.
I think Ellis is right about Game core is game core. If they wanted to change the game they'd try to gather data on how many of their players want something hardcore/midcore/or casual but they aren't doing that
Theyve already said we have about 30% of the final map size
they're sticking to their guns and keeping it the way it is
they invented a story to have water in the game, people asked and complained and now there will be
catering to people who are casual midcore players
Thats not at all the same
There are mmos for people that want that
This will not be that.
yall spend too much energy on these people
They'd like send out a survey if they wanted to change the core game drastically
Not necessarily. New world is a great example of core mechanics changed between alpha and launch that nobody really wanted or asked for
What is the core of the game?
Casual content
Play it and read and youll know ^^
Then i guess they sucked when it came to gathering data on their playerbase
New world is an mmo, mmos dont go well nowadays
No, more likely greed.
Are dungeons casual?
Yes, they can be. It depends on the mechanics.
Yes, dungeons was in zelda 1 on nes
Its a very normal concept
'Dungeons' (can be caves, spires, towers, halls) it just a desciptor
Same i just want to gather my little resources, fight some dudes, and build a cool base
π
I'm referring to the game's current Dungeons
They are just areas with a challenge to complete and move on
'Dungeons' doesnt mean mmo raid area.
Thats a big misunderstanding if so
Theres no area called a dungeon even so ^^
Spires, elixir wells, hollow halls, towns.
Crypts
I think there is hard content in the game too imo... like if you want it to be harder go fight everything naked with a shit weapon i guess
but if you don't care about challenges and want endgame raid rewards just to flex then idk what to tell you lol
Its mid diff and varied enough, exploring the world is fun, and one doesnt even need to farm items unless mmo-damaged ^^
like the game can be quite challenging
what class do you play?
melee
There are no classes ^^
i think he meant what weapon i use and what skill tree i go for
I spec strenght and stamina, use sword and board
I nab some constitution and atheltics skills too
I haven't really played the game in some time but i remember trying to fight that big dragon looking dude and i died a few times and i remember how rewarding it felt when i had almost killed him
Yeah its a fun fight ^^
i took a break though and didn't pick it back up because my friend wanted to crunch through elden ring with me (bad idea)
I'm reinstalling enshrouded though bcs new update yipppeee
Enshrouded to elden ring and back needs some adjustment for sure ^^
Yeah im replaying it this update from scratch, to feel how the progression has been retuned ^^
I had done 90% of current content before hallow halls
Tweaked exp rates, put mobs a bit diff, balance change in chests and spire drops
A lot of small rework.
Would you say the change is good or bad?
I dont keep something until 1.0
I feel its good
It went a bit quick to level before i think
Is there anything in particular that motivates you to play?
Im also finding new stuff in old places i wouldnt go if i hadnt replayed
Ooooo that's cool
Well, i love open world explorstion and feeling i 'grow' and finding stuff in nooks and crannies
Enshrouded is very good for that to me β€οΈ
So true
we love some good open world exploration
i love how dynamic the building is too, like there's so much you can do
i play games like ddv, palia bcs i love decorating and customizing stuff
I dont build much in enshrouded but its a good system yeah ^^
I started building semi open world maps in another game/system so i get all my building done there, but its a good system for those that use it more deffo ^^
I stuff my bed and npcs and crafters in a hut and tell them to not expect me home for dinner cus imma adventure ^^
There are so many beautiful builds i find on youtube and it makes my mouth water
LMAO
I knew someone who did this...
^^
I would get my friends to gather/venture out for me and i would be a stay at home housewife
and i'd just build things
Nauw ^^ erryone has their way
Can't wait to get back into it :3
dose new zone has new shroud roots?
Sorry, i didn't mean to diminish your needs/what you expect out of the game. I think they'll try their best to add content for everyone.
oh wrong tag
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Will they Buff mages at any point?
They suck right now? Been playing basically a big strength warrior
I believe they will do what the majority wants, it won't be 3 people who will decide
even the suggestions website has this purpose
i think it would be dope if the music sheets could add some type of buffs aside the little bit of comfort buff ..for a better reason to bring instruments along i suppose
it looks like radiant paladin armor is mostly fixed, they all seem to have the same bonuses and the armor rating is now higher than armor, before the radiant was missing abilities.
but the gloves are worse than soldier.
i wondr if that's intentional.
Balance is going to be an ongoing thing, for sure. I'm sure we'll see changes to get things in the right place.
I hate it when people complain about stuff nerfing into the ground, on a EA game no less lol
but was a good question to ask nonetheless
Sometimes it feels like your build has been nerfed into the ground when you've spent a long time being super overpowered π
argh i just now realized i can have up to like 4 altars right now
mage nerfs were 100% right
ring of rampacity killed mana managment - nerfed
blood magic killed mana managment - nerfed
now ya gotta think
nerfing is never right.
well i do partly agree to this and id rather see ranger and warrior buffs, mages were a bit op imo
Nerfing is a normal part in game development and as long as they're justified I see them as a good thing.
If things are op then they have to be nerfed to keep a stable balance.
Problem that most games have is that nerfes often hitting too hard or happen in the wrong spots
Yeah sometimes it can happen that things seem too strong because the rest is undertuned than a buff does the better job for sure
Did they take out the advanced glider quest in the new update??
I got it from the carpenter just as normal
But I also got the carpenter after I got the farmer, alchemist, blacksmith and hunter
I don't believe so.
How does a game go from unsupported to playable for steam deck? Because I tried enshrouded on my steam deck and I got it to run at about 30 frames with performance settings
Steam has specific parameters the game needs to meet. The Devs need to get the game to get to that point before they get the official support tag.
cough Helldivers 2 cough
wait, it says i have 111 points spent but i never reset from being at 114. did I lose a skill?
new area, new 3 roots
well before the new area we had 3 extra glitched points and i never respeced when they fixed it.
just stopping in to say, after the first major patch i wondered how yall could possible top it, these large tree, which you can build in, on , hollow out are the coolest thing ever. My inner child thanks you.
All the other NPC's always wave to me but the Bard doesn't seem to
NEW NPC?!
my boyfriend broke off with meπ
welcome to the single life. we just play bideo games all day.
f*** that little gay guy
lol
lol
I was too much a man for him
clearly!
Reminds me of that Sheryl Crow song Are you Strong Enough to be my Man.
apparently I was not opening up enough
To which I answered Sheryl. It's not a matter if I am strong enough, it's a matter of how much crazy I am willing to put up with.
will excuse me for holding my feelings back
Oh this has nothing to do with you. I often think out loud and am have random thoughts
eh, who needs emotions anyway
Im old and probably a little insane
mine are too strong
after so many years on this earth you kinda lose a little sanity
crazy? I was crazy once.
Give it time you will understand
they locked me in a rubber room.
Make the best of it, bounce around like a trampoline
A rubber room with rats.
did I mention I'm gay
no but i could have guessed
dude I'm gay
holy shit!
take a moment to let it sink in
that mean you like dick?!
I'm a giver not a taker
you'll find someone better
If you were gay
That'd be okay
I mean 'cause, hey
I'd like you anyway
didnt realize it was this kind of tavern...
now you know, and knowing is half the battle!
gay, straight, martian, don't care, you like this game, you're good by me
you have a problem me being gay?
has zero to do with who what or how you are and more what the chatter is
I am beginning to think you're gay
Might just be my imaginaiton
But hey guess what? I grew up in a town with a large gay community so it doesn't rattle me at all
In fact they have some great restarants and great cooks
well I am my father don't like me my mom loves me
Yeah moms will always love their kids. Well good moms anyway.
I didnt have a good mom
the thing is about the feelings
My parents visiting us this weekend π
I'm going to celebrate my Mom and Dad's 40th honeymoon Sunday
If you are wondering where I grew up, there is beach town called Fire Island Pines where we used to go to hang out a lot the shops are cool and the restarants are great. But no some place to go for people who cant handle gay people
best part is the ocean and sailing for me
the same types that can't handle gay people are the same types that just can't handle any one living a happy life better than them
it's like. why the hell do you care how others live
well I grew up around many of them so I dont even think twice about it
you live your life happily, I'm happy for you. You don't tell me how to live my life either and we're good.
Whats going on here?
hating on haters, @prisma frost π
I haven't even told at my workplace I'm gay
No one but us chickens nothing to see here
right? same for ingame, how so many spend so much time attempting to grief others..man, move on
Dude the guy that worked in the cube next to me on my last job was hard core gay kid. We actually got along really well, he shared a lot of the life problems he was going through with his mate
my view is, those who spend so much time invading on others' lives to tell them what's right or wrong needs to learn to have a happier life themselves. if someone's not causing harm, who cares.
But we had an understanding, he was gay and I was not. we respected each others boundaries. and we were good friends
this reminds me of a time when we had a coworker and came to ask two of us how to try and pick up a guy he liked. we're like... we have no clue, man, ask her (pointing to a female colleague walking towards us). Her: no clue either, I"m a lesbian
one of the funniest everyday convo i've had in my life with friends.
good thing I still have my mother
lol
Don't let him get to you, let him regret being a shitty dad.
Sorry guys, just try new sticker
my brother's wife is also very very nice
Too bad
Hello, my lord
Dunno, from what I heard we do now not 2 shot but 4-5 shot
Im just a happy renger
I guess he was influenced by your dad
Just respec. Play meta.
Until nerf happens and something else is Meta.
What do you mean 4-5 shot?
We need 4-5 shots to kill smth
I see
Let me test it in the lvl 30 zone. Second.
So they nerfed mageβs overall damage output?
Messages happen to disappear
But I tested right now.
3 shots for scorpions.
I need to engage into fights properly. Dreadful. 
go to sleep
No dad.
GO TO SLEEP SON
Hmmm 3 shots for scorpions 
Well... Seems Sicklescythe may now be out of reach to defeat solo
at least without abuse terrain alot
Oh wow
His "Skill Issue" Vanolia Rabies
Thats a bit toxic, ain't it, Prim?
How is the new region?
still not fair you can post gift and we can't
What's a gift
Nitro gift, can you sent me? 


Sigh.
Wanna 1v1 me in wow
Didn't test the new region yet, I was just for one short jump into it. It seems funny, but I didn't got into it really yet because I've got not much time to spare.
About the Sickelscythe, a mix between wand and staff will do the trick, also abuse terrain against it now. But somewhat it feels now it deals a bit too much damage. At least for a boss, that can rush you in HH4 with other mobs in a army or other locations. But yes. It's to defeat and I didn't used elixirs or magic scrolls for the fight.
I think with all the consumables mage would be at the point prior to the patch again.
I think fireball is nerfed by almost 60% at least. Before it was 2 fireballs to obliterate regular open world enemies. Now it takes up to 3, which goes into the mana.
dealt around 2k damage before patch, from my memory. Now I do 800.
The look on my face when I discovered that my electric wand absolutely decimated the Sicklesythe was phenomenal
and these 800 damage were on a Fell, so... he took more damage bc fire.
Yes the nerfed mage. One thing Ive learned about devs in most games, they never react, they over-react.
I mean, I'll take the hit. I regularly play with a tank in the group, but I feel like that's not really justified yet because... Yeah. As a magician, what else should I specify now, instead of Int/Spirit and maybe const? There's not much left that makes sense... and you really can't expect everyone to use all the int nodes to barely do enough DPS.
I think the blow was a lil' too harsh.
It's a bit about the advertised "You should do multiclass"-thing. They should start to give out some +stats for some other nodes or mix-nodes maybe.
They should not force specs. I usually play pure classes. All mage or all warrior etc. I did take the two immediate Constitution nodes for extra health. But yeah mage sacrifices health and armor for more power. Yet they see having more power as too much? makes no sense
thats the whole point of a mage class youre a glass cannon
You can nuke the hell out of things but you go down in a light wind
I think the damage is now just in a weird spot. It's between "If you don't go fully into damage, you'll have very long fights" and "Oh, also you're that weak you'll go down in 2-3 hits, especially if groups of enemys charge at you.". As said, I think it'll get better with more levels in the future, but I see that they should maybe split the tree then more - at least there where you can choose which magic type you wanna deal - to have them special "end-abilities" or passive additions to your spells that make them worthwhile. I mean... We have a poison spell but no possibilities to beef up its damage. We have shroud nodes without real eternal Shroud Spell (yet) and to get to the lightning buffs we need to skill at least into 2-3 nodes of one other magic type. That does not really sit well with me.
yeah I would not even attempt HH on my mage now
As it should be
Why? If I may ask.
Nah if they start forcing spec and forcing groups they are going to lose players
Heal was perfect at launch, prove me wrong.
That I can see, yes. Not everyone has his own dedicated Tank...
And to enforce people to just play flavor of the patch may also not be the solution.
it still isnt
I remember playing DAoC where guilds would have cookie cutter specs for each class. I absolutely hate that.
Healing is weird...
Floating bubbles that can also be accidently dodged by your friends and for whom you need to stay close are still unusable in my book. Only if you stand besides the battlefield and one charges up to you, you can reliable use it.
Not in the midst of a fight though.
lol yeah you can outrun the bubbles and never get a heal they are too slow
Thats the entire reason, Water Aura is that strong, isn't it?
Hi I just started playing again, I see the conversation is about balance rn. I play mage and I just did the first two hollow halls after rescuing the collector. It was really difficult and while I like them I'm wondering if it's easier currently on other builds, or what to do with my mage perhaps to make it easier (I'd prefer to stay mage). Currently I usually just spam eternal fireball/light burst depending on the situation
Well its decent but its not strong its more like a passive heal over time
I get about what 24 per tick?
light burst is weak imo they should power it up a bit
yeah I just use it to push, faster cast time so it comes in handy a few times
Mage took a hit this patch, it's not unplayable, but you're glass cannon without big output anymore it seems.
Well, even more so if you don't get every int node possible
The beef spec this patch seems to be ranger
What bugs me about that is those later int nodes are gated behind things I dont want or need
well I'm max level but didn't do everything yet so I only have 93 skill points atm
actually what's the maximum amount of skill points atm?
Get all the Elixer Wells and Red Trees
111
111, I think 114 if you do Black Mire?
no 111
I'm planning to
Didn't played the patch yet, so I may be wrong
ONE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN POINTS IS THE MAXIMUM. THE GREAT OZ HAS SPOKEN.
Yes. Oh and .. the Bard is fugly.
I'll see myself in 2 weeks I guess
Some dude named Undocumented Bard or something was having a tissy fit over me calling the Bard fugly
I only called her that because she is fugly
And she looks pretty rough ridden like she been on the road with the band way too long
Can we chat in game?
No, afaik
No, there are not even emotes or phrases to use
Most you can do is map ping
buggerπ
yeah, butyou are on a app/site that is very useful for when games dont have chat function ;D
Does anyone know who craft the trampolines?
Havent kept up on dev updates but is there plans to have the NPCs you recruit do things such as use items in their environments? Like the blacksmith wandering around the space you have built him using items you have placed down. Just to make them seem more alive.
Has willow crush also been redone? I used to have a base at fort Kelvin but gave it up for willow crush and now that for Kelvin is badass I'm considering moving back.. my wife is going to hate me.
Kelvin's at fault again isn't he?
Where can we get the mana arrow?
Why do we keep nerfing the fun specs in this PvE game? π€ There's a reason barely a couple hundred folks reacted to the patch notes.
Getting ready to play the new update, have they made it so you know which flame shrines you've visited?
Don't The Flame Shrines Show Up On The Map After You Visit Them ?
Nearly all potions have been removed from drops. Have made new char and new progression system is really painfull.
greeting my nigerian kings and queens
my game crash spam
mods help me!!
this is more important than global warming
its like poverty
it is mostly mage being too broken over other class so they have to balance it a bit
I'll get right on that right after I prevent the earth's core from exploding.
Let it explode.
Oh. The core isn't threatening to explode, but I'll get right on that very important issue once I do prevent it from exploding. π
Let it explode.
oh, I can't do that, because then I couldn't get to that issue that's more important than global warming. π€£
There is, but this isnβt really the place to be talking about them
Easy way to stop global warming. Destroying the sun
Well, I did play tank and mage builds from 0 to hero and mage felt waaaaaay easier.
Yes.
Hey, It's Random!
The thing is going to suicide in a few million years and take us with it, so win win
Oh no
oh yes!
Insert koolaid man gif
a George Tekai "Oh My!" gif would have been better π
no
ROFL. I made Random go away.
no one wants to deal with a mean old lady
Hey! I am the nicest person you know.
Anyway, young man - shouldn't you be in bed?
_>
i wokeup 2 hrs ago
@_@
Midnight is sleep time, not wake-up time π
its 4:00
youre 2hrs behind me remember
well 2am isn't much better π
someone has to make the donuts.
better than none I suppose π€£
I have to go to bed soon cause I have massage therapy tomorrow
I sat down in a recliner to take a break from working and I ended up falling asleep for a few hrs
hehe magic spell high dmg goes brrrrrrrrrr
Hey, It's Random!
you gonna make him go poof again
lol. Anyway my loves - I am off to bed. You all have a wonderful day/evening!
and now it does way less damage and has less survivability. So it got multiple nerfs
bruh. i have sleep apnea apperently so i try to never take a nap after work but ive bewn failing a lot lately.
thursday i slept for 4 hours and then only got 3 before work. @_@
u need modafinil
?
I just fell so far down I got two death messages. Fortunately only one tombstone. Sadly at the edge of a very messed up cliff
pickaxe.
nah i got it with a very careful slide and pressing F in mid fall (4 tries)
nice
Tony Hawk pro Scater was my Jam in 2001
Skater? meh, too late to spell
Pro something, Pro Boarder?
no, skater
old.
skateboarding IRL was for ppl with medical insurance. that was not me as a teenager
lol ya
i played 3 and thug.
thug 2 was ass and AW wasnt great. shame.
THUG1 was peak tony hawk.
idk I played 3 of them I think. The namebrand games not any offshoots. 1st was epic. remember getting that first level with 30 seconds on a Dominos Pizza box, promo disc
With Crash Bandicoot
lol
30 seconds, highscore to beat was like 100k, and after a week I got like 1.3m, learned to ollie. was hooked
Anyone know how long it takes for the new Vukah Shrine to reset its buff? We placed it and the only way we can seem to reset it is by picking it up and placing it back down. It didnt even reset when I server reset
pretty sure it wont reset if its in your base
same logic as everything else, base is static, rest of the world resets
but then it would poof
so idk
Odd we can now make them but they wont reset in the base when its the only place you can place them
man. i was soooo bad at thawk games.
only reason i msde it through thug was the perfect landings cheat.
Sadly enough I got pretty good at Tony Hawk. The 3 of them. Only on playstation though, need that controller with the analog sensitivy to ollie
i should be asleep right now but i agreed to work today. @_@
Coffee much?
its a work in progress
NEVER. but ya. damn i forgot my caffine. rofl.
i avoid caffine as much as possible.
I do too, kinda. early morning its guaranteed bathroom. But if its a no sleep night and work in the morning, just got to time it right.
can anyone confirm the number of Roots in the new area?
I found 2, somebody said 3, I cant find it.......
3 roots (the 3 bugged skillpoints ^^)
ye we had at one point 114 even tho we should've had only 111
but i reset my skill tree like the dev's suggested
i have 111 right now
which cant be right because I havent completed a few in Kindlewastes
And then there's the 3 new, 2 (1 on each side) of the entrance to blackmire and 1 at the big tree
ok so there is 3
maybe i havent seen this bug yet because I dont have all of them from Kindle
but scaring me now, im at 111 - you saying if i get another It wont apply?
no everything is fully fixed by now
oh...
then why scare me
your just sick like that eh, thats hwo you get your thrills i see
You are easily scared arent you
Down a couple red bulls and a 5hr energy :)
I like my heart too much for that advice
doesnt invalidate my statement any
this shroud root is a myth. people pulling my chain, or mistake the one a the entrance for one that was already there. I have fully explored the entire area, map is 100% (and I mean total, I climbed every mountain until redbox chased me out)
Got so high I glided all the way down the red limit back to Hollow Halls, its actually kinda a neat nice straight edge on the map now
the first HH, i mean
its kinda interesting what you learn when you mountain climb. Some regions are just redboxed no flame zones for what really seems no reason at all. But it has to mean they are keeping it zoned off for the possibility of future content/changes. Even though the map makers did a excellent job.
And they trying to stick to the statement "you wont have to rebuild your base as content comes out"
The Peak around Glenwood is totally complete. Its just a peak, but cant build on it. And west of the pass is some of the best work I have seen yet. But you have to struggle hard to get up there to see it.
And I have to be honest, having been in Kindlewastes for some time now, and then exploring this release, the map makers shot themselves in the foot. Because the detail and landscape awesomeness of this patch, if played linearly, leaves everything that follows majorly lacking.
I have this problem with Final Fantasy games, you start out lush, and then end up in a desert. Progress to wastelands or snow biomes, and it goes from eye candy to dull and annoyingly featureless.
IT still is EA so those areas might get an overwork at one point
At the cost of telling people their bases might get reset
That's the risk tho
and dont say EA, gives me shivers of nightmare Electronic Arts became
they were sooo good in the 90s. sigh
If you decide to play an Early Access title there is going to be changes, that also can end up in getting your world/Char wiped
Everyone understands that Sophia (or should), its just that things have been said to try to comfort players that will be a last resort kinda thing. To encourage base building.
Me personally, i say, why not just rewrite it all. Be born in the frozen mountains, and climb your way down to greener pastures, deeper, downer, learn more about why the mist is there. Rewrite 1000 hours of story telling. But might it be worth it?
Sadly people don't, they complain quite a lot about stuff that can easily happen during the development
Depends on the story, if it ends up being better why not
Yeah well, mail them a few stickers they can put on their coffee mug/car/youngest child
But this is the problem with Early Access. Once its out, and it gains popularity like it has; youre basically committed to the storytelling your doing
otherwise you risk pissing everyone off (even though they already paid you so who cares). But the expectation is there I guess is what im saying
Its like trying to change religions on your child every few months. They wont care anymore whats going on and inevitably just hate them all.
Anyways, im out, enough of my nonsense. I enjoy the game. Some tricky curves coming up for the dev team. Cant wait to see how it plays out.
They could always put new lush lands on the other sides of the wastes, exotic and strange at that
I'm looking forward to a good snow biome with the snow crunch
If snow is crunchy you probably shouldnt be eating it 
For walking
nvidia allowing EVGA to fall from grace was a stuipid move. Ok back to your regular scheduled program
I will say that making the new biome level 15 is an interesting choice.
I easily see most players already leveling past that before they ever get there.
also now that we have a new biome we Desperately need more altars.
THere is a fast travel in the new area?
There is.
Yeah, I got to 20 or 25 (whatever the cap is) just by wandering around, doing quests, and killing stuff.
I feel like maybe mobs should scale with your levelβ¦
eh. to an extent.
i like some areas staying at a certaint level. lets me go back and explore in peace.
i dont want to constantly have a fight on my hands.
quick question ... how many roots to destroy in the new update enclave (left side up north)
π€
can someone do me a quick screenshot where to see the new skills for daggers on the skill tree? for me it isnt showing... or im just too stupid to find it
I see Eagle Eye is more zoom also
Leveling is a bit slower now, since im replaying from start ive noticed it has been a bit rebalanced.
Its not a fully linear game anyways, people can level differently depending on what they choose to do
Server Permissions, is this only for the person that is hosting the dedicated server or can permissions be given to other players... specifically "kick players"
Kick streamers doesnt have permissions and are auto banned anyways ^^ π€
you find it?
nope.... i assume its only working if you remake a new character?
No, mine worked even before I respec'd
i see the other addons for multishot and melee... but dagger master is not there
weird
on the ranger skill?
how many ROOTS in new area ENCLAVE pls
Look in beastmaster
oh#
3
thx @chrome ravine
I think there is 3 or 4 specifc dagger skills
Hello Guys, I wanted to know if it is possible to reduce the Power of the Flame ? I know this is probably not possible through the game but Iβm wondering if this possible in another way ?
Here is some quick guidance on how the Altars & Flame levels work in Enshrouded.
- A 30-second timer then begins to run. During this period you can reverse the action taken.
- After these 30 seconds the altar disappears.
- The world flame level remains.
- No materials will be refunded
- The altar level is lost
β οΈ structures and items created by the player within the flame radius remain until the corresponding area is either left for 30 minutes or the player logs out. Everything in the former flame radius is then extinguished.
Level, I want to be able to retrieve some redshroud
Nope.
New world is your only chance
shame.
i wish all the XP i was getting from kills was actually stockpiling instead of being zero.
But for what reason do you want the Shroud to be red?
Well there are still places with red shroud. But not taksiebacksies! ^^
Interesting for me because Iβm creating a game
Enshrouded game show.
Hop on 1, 2 or 3 and see if you fall into red Shroud
Ok, just to know if someone already found a way to do so.
Actuelly it was to ease building my parcours on the red shroud but I will do with it
At this point I'm just wondering what you want to achieve.
May be in the next update dev will go further in the personnal quest system ? Actually itβs nice already to play them but Now it could be nice to have a personnal flame level and Pnj
Actually there are 2 reasons:
- new players on our servers heritate flame level ans PNJ from the server. And itβs really boring
- Iβm creating a dexterity game. And I found interesting to create it above a red shroud. Like that if a player fall-> Dead
I mean... Difficulty inside the Shroud just gets regulated by enemy level anyway. If you can travel through it or not, should not be the issue I guess.
About the dexterity game, there are a few patches of red shroud still left.
Yes you are right but it is also a question of game design. It is an important part of the game
As a new player shroud is really interesting
And important to drive you
I mean, also one thing that naturally grows is just... That the shroud areas grew bigger and they've just less time to explore it anyway by time. I think the game balances itself out.
Where you need to be
For example, the Shroud areas in the Nomad Highlands are very vast, the only caves who lead upwards guarded hevily by bugs and other fast attacking enemys to make procceding upwards harder
Concernant the mortal game you need to take account of the size needed. Some part are about flying and go through flying doors. I need Space ! π
Maybe did u place some items down again after the Hollow Halls update? Quests got tracked after this update any maybe you redecorated
Ye more I hear from you, the more I think we'd need a world builder to set up our own dungeons et cetera.
Yeaahhh with traps and everything
I can see something like that being a thing.... when they officially add mod support.
At the very least a year.
In addition, the obligatory clause "Everything created in this editor is the intellectual property of Keen Games ... blah blah et cetera" should not be missing.
Well they need to have a more robust world I assume
Because Blizzard loved to kill all the fun with those one clause
They need to finish the game they're making before they look into making the tools for their engine that'll allow others to mod it effectively ^^
Yeah not a problem.
I am super happy we have this development team on this game, thank you guys for your work on this gameβ€
I mean... They're very confident, but something the game is missing now is real progression. I'm really hoping for the mountain biome in the next update, but I'll let them cook. I just hope that the mountains give us the opportunity to build real mines and the like. Also, I hope to find some gold and... Maybe... very little maybe...
What do you mean by progression?
I knew a few people that don't want to start anew and would wish that we start to level once again from 25 upwards into the 30-35 territory
They just go with their lvl 25 chars through the new areas, blast through and get bored really quick
and I think by now just that the content between 1-25 is now really dense for just 24 levels (if we're honest) 
Ah you mean continued progression from what they started with. I can agree to a degree, for those that blast new areas with max level and complain? That's down to them. The whole point this is not a completed game means things don't necessarily come out in a player progressive fashion... from the dev point of view it probably doesn't make sense to do such.
I mean... I cannot blame them really, they created a toon, bonded with him through the content and now just don't want to ditch them
Definitely, there is 'too much' xp as it currently stands. That could be the plan though that at full release the xp you gain is reduced, meaning what it took us to get 25 at EA release, equates to about lvl 15 for full release. Or something like that.
Agreed, i've done both updates with the same character now.... i've not once grumbled about no lvl increase π
I see that as very dangerous. If level start to feel like a slog people will also stop playing
These updates are about much more than numbers in my eyes.
Yes, though with all this new content, which people are complaining is too much for the level range... if the speed at which you level is reduced so that you reach the same current level by kindlewastes... what's the issue?
Can someone send me some decently thorough screenshots of the updated poi towns? Except Fort Kelvin. I've seen that one.
My base used to be in Fort Kelvin and I went back there and it was glitchy so I deleted the altar and was floored. Now I want to move our base back. My wife is going to hate me
But I want to see the new areas first
Gaming is always math that has been shifted in such ways to make it appeal funny for us. 
The other thing is, as mentioned, if someones plays for 2-4 hours (just a player who has not much time to spare mid-week or holidays) just does 1 level a day it'd feel a bit stale or not? I know people that cannot get themselves together to do even a spire in one session, for some which I happen to know was Hollow Halls 1 already to lengthy.
These statements btw. don't apply to me, don't get me wrong. I loved the length yet of the content, because it got me occupied, but... it's hard to get my friends into it when they see "Oof, it'll take all night for us to get x done?"
You're stating issues with players, not with games π Yes games have to accomdate players to a degree, but to accomodate the ADHD crowd because they're too easily distracted from social media? Let them go play cookie clicker.... π€£
Call me old, i'm from the gaming days of spending 4 or 5 hours trying to kill a single raid boss 1, 2 even 3 nights in a week was a thing. Yes, out of those 40 people a few weren't there every night but most were the same and people stayed till the job was done. π€·ββοΈ
Instant gratification is bad, yo.
I'm on the same boat, but there are middle ways that can be gone.
The XP we got at least prior to the update were really fine, better than just "Oh, you got in a 2-4 hour session 2 levels, good for ya!" - people would be happier if it were 4, or not?
I didn't test how it's now, but you get the point I hope
Especially if, like our CMs said, the game shouldn't become the next soulslike, y'know.
When it comes to pure levels, it's a fine line. At pre HH xp levels i was lvl 25 before hitting kindlewastes... that's too much xp for sure. So i'd honestly say the game could use some slowing down on xp.
Especially with all the new content in the same level range.
Make levelling too fast and then you'll get the people we already have 'I'm only half way through the zones and now getting 0xp why am i even playing?'
Hey I havent played since before the hallow halls update, was curiois if anyone recommends i restart or take up where i left off? 
I honestly feel it'll be later on like the following:
1-10 meadows
10-20 revelwood
20-25 nomad highlands
25-35(?) kindlewastes
35-? mountains maybe
Because just revelwood and meadows have already so much PoI going for them, that they're filled to the brim, while Nomad and Kindlewastes just somewhat lacked them.
Personal preference, but there isn't any new lvl challenging content.
You mean like theres no reason to restart?
Not really.
You could also do it on your max level toon to get +3 skill points
Meaning if you use your current character, you'll overpower everything that's new. If that's fine with you, then no need to start a new character, if you want a challenge then start a new character ^^
First two hallow halls you can more or less speedrun with a lategame character
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