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Nope. Spring onions are Scallions, here
Same genus, different species
Maybe over there
I just got home today, and picked up my smoked sidecap of a wild boar I shot a couple of weeks ago, so now I have like 5 pounds of smoked wild boar bacon in the fridge. Anyone wanna join, come hither.
shrug
starts driving...
mind if the hubs and son tag along ๐
Lotro trades: Scholar, Cook, Farmer, Weaponsmith, Metalsmith, Woodworker, Jeweler
You're right. I'm a dumb Swede, forgive me, my anglais very bad.
Silly Scandahoovians
-speaks of having fresh meat readily available
-everyone heads over
Typical dad fantasy evening
Nope. More likely, it's different terms. Like 'biscuit' here or in Brit land, kek
I'm sorry! ๐ฆ I will immediatly go out in my yard and give myself 15 lashes with the whip to redeem myself.
You ain't dumb
My wife begs to differ.
Hmm well maybe i wont drive.. I am American.
Beat him with a wet noodle. Teach him a lesson
Which also explains why YOU have had good cooking experiences and I have seen horrid ones.
Could always drive up to canada
I'm not arguing with her. You're straight dumber than a pail of hair, then
It's not as far as sweeden
Thank you, that means alot to me. You're such a bro
We don't drive to Canada we canoe to Canada
LOL Eh if i go to Canada I have to visit at least 5 other people.... first.
I make my good cooking experiences, you make other do them for you, that's the difference.
Is a pail of hair dumber than a box of rocks?
Hair can fill a pillow
Yes, and even dumber than a flock of crocs
Gross
Dreamcatchers!
Kek
Nah I cook almost every meal my family eats. I make them happy therefore i create good experiences for them. Food is a love language.
kek we got a World of Warcraft player here
HORDE FOR LIFE
kek is horde in pvp
Hair can be used as an effective garrote for GAAAAAAABlins
Well I used to play.
Never touched it.
But am aware of the origin story
I played all alliance classes, had a horde Tauren shaman though which was lots of fun. They seem to have more fun on Horde side
Never played WoW but Illidan is peak. Convince me otherwise.
anyone knows the generic term of living trees/ents/treants species in fantasy?
Yeah horde people, other than the blood elves... usually are more chill.
I played alliance like 98% of my years playing wow but, when I played horde I felt relaxed and at home over there
Woodfolk?
are you sure?
Brambles?
I would say they are Fey Folk
Alliance on my server were just a bunch of snotty kids
alright ill try those terms to search ๐
Who couldn't pvp for their lives
thank y'all ๐
Just don't look up woodies
lol
It won't get you what your looking for
wood paneled station wagons?
Just as a fun fact, hair is extremely useful in a survival situation, because it burns really well, and can be a very good fire starter if you're fresh out of any kind of other kindling, and it burns very hot, like on the scale of birch bark. Note that down in your survival manual.
Noted.
Here's the real age test. Who rolled a toon for Asheron's Call?
Nah thats not an age test. An age test is who played Everquest (original) or Ultima Online. On Dial up
This has been a delight, having this conversation with all you fine people in here, but I've been up for the past 27 hours, and I really need to go have a conversation wtih my pillow. Have a good one everyone, and I'll see you next time! ๐
NN Andreas!
Fine people and me
Oh shush you, I'm sure you're a very fine person behind that keyboard.
Night.
I actually did buy it but I never got around to playing it
Well its about to get quiet.. Andreas took the food with him
They came out the same year
Every plebe played EQ
I played EQ for 7 years
AC was the red headed step child ๐
I played AQ
plebe? pfft.
EQ main was Wizard and Paladin. Also had Enchanter, Warrior.
My bard was awesomesauce. I could twist 4 songs consistently.. 5 if i worked at it and the dial up connection was behaving lol
Bards were so OP
See? The prosecution rests ๐
Bards and Necros just way too OP
What I did NOT love was when people would examine you and offer you money for your gear.
Root rot? That's the stuff in Remnant XD
And I made good money on porting
I bet!
Wizzy port to planes for guild raids
SoW pls thx
#nostalgia-chat
yeah..
Now casting 4 hour KEI at the main bank in POK in 5 minutes!
*entire server is hauling butt to the POK
I was so sad that they never did make EQ3. Landmark should have turned into it but the dev ran it into the ground. His own personal playground.
EQ2 was fun. They fixed some broken stuff like carpal tunnel causing twisting.
played that for years then went to WoW
That was fun for a little while too.
I tend to stick with an MMO for many years before moving on
I did my share of PvP I was pretty good at it but it made me a different person
I got way to performance focused
I finally have realized.. I am over them. I am tired of the drama llamas, the endless grind with the end gated to raiding... and micro transactions seem to be standard now. I much prefered an all inclusive monthly rate.
Strangely I am not a raider in fact I dislike raiding. Way to metered and mechnaical
Oh i have done pvp. I just dont like it world wide. I dont mind arenas or battle grounds.
Well then dont play Fallout 76 that's all it's become is a 3D interface for the Atomic Shop
Raiding became a business in too many games.
And the absurd crap they put on the Atom shop is just laughable
Eh i wont. I played fallout 4 and loved it until i found out the end of the story arc
the new series on amazon was cute though.
It's like they have a bunch of kids with crayons sitting in a room somewhere "creating" things to sell on the Atom shop. It just makes me shake my head. They have totally lost sight of the Fallout world
The Amazon series is pretty accurate in terms of whats in the Fallout World I was a little impressed. But they didn't do it the serious justice it deserved
No, they just became like Vault-Tec.
I was impressed with the accuracy of the Vault interiors
Nah I had the Vault DLC for FO4. Never cared for it
Fallout 4 was really their peak with the 3D versions
But Bethesda kinda ruined the original feel of the wasteland
------------ they need to fix the light occlusion on secret doors. Not much of a secret is light is shining through it
Hey I have had a bug for quite awhile now. I already cleared the hollow halls in my friend's server but when I try to do it on my own world, it's not progressing. I watched a bunch of videos and the quest should update to "Descend into the Hollow Halls" upon reaching the entrance. But for some reason, the quest on my world when I reach the entrance does not update. I already tried clearing the whole dungeon and already got the Collector but still the same. Any help?
Greetings, folks. What's a fun build for a new, solo player? I'm scared to add points in my skill tree as I don't know how easy it is to respec, ha.
Costs 10 runes to respec thatโs it.
Can do it at your flame altars as much as you want
Oh! Well how fabulous! Then grabbing the gathering nodes first. Those seemed useful. โค๏ธ
Yup, then can respec later if you want or hold them while youโre still leveling
Hello, I have a very important question. My PC crashed mid session and the kettle has disappeared from my world but the quest says I still have it and need to craft the fireplace thingy. Is there like a way to get it back or a save file I can use that has it ๐ญ
If you picked it up, the Smith should have a recipe to make it, now
Oh thank you so much, I was so worried
Should be at the bottom of his list
I'm loading in now to check it
It's useful to know you can make dupes of every crafting station, even the quest ones
Helps get production rolling if you have multiple kilns and such
I crafted the kettle but it didn't give me the crafting recepie for a new fireplace to craft with it and just placing it on the normal fireplace didn't complete the quest
You talked to emily with it in your inventory?
How did I miss the conversation about wealth and currency? 
No lol I shall do that
Youโre reformed
Donโt relapse
Just getting started. What's the best way to play socially? I see LFG but it looks less than active. Do y'all join random groups, start public groups?
i would get some friends to play with you its so much better also battle mage is op
Nah Iโd recommend you play with your friends with a password or make a post in lfg, itโs slow but people do respond
You can also just solo but itโs definitely more fun with friends
Any build is ok socially imo
Has anyone heard of a fix for the Obelisk research task? Ive read them all and its still not complete! uuugh
Did it and still nothing. THey talked to me and told me to craft a fireplace using the kettle but nothing works
Which fireplace are you crafting?
The only one I can craft. The basic stone one
That is not the fireplace the for the farmer
It's the only one I can craft.
From all the NPCs and benches, thats the only one?
I am in the process of crafting all the benches
Its in the farmer- just under the food - "Production Place" - its it that fireplace
you need the kettle
LOL thats ok. I'm still trying to figure out a few quests that I DID but are still showing up- I prob did something wrong haha
Give me more content!
omg kindlewastes hollow hall is no joke, im level 25 its kicking my buTt!
yeah I thought Highland HH was no joke I am afraid to go to Kindle
Hey has anyone found a house that had 4 chests that had a million resources of ONE MILLION in 4 magic chests of doors, windows, illuminations, and blocks?
I found a house in the desert and in the basement there was 4 magic chests that had all materials at a million resourses for all doors, windows, illuminations, and blocks. Please can someone tell me if someone is hacking me or if this is something the game is giving me
<@&1059853133188169910> can you please tell me something
oof. Mods dont like being pinged
but thats what they are there for. They are called moderators for a reason.
Yeah, to moderate the chat, like if someone's being rude, breaking rules.
This.
Not to answer questions no one has an answer to...
uh oh you awoke the gif monster
Is your game public, and not password protected.
We are to be pinged for emergencies only. You just pinged a whole bunch of people for no real reason.
yeah they should know if this is something normal or if this is somone hacking, which at that point the mods should be contacted.
We only handle discord issues, not personal servers.
We don't mod the game, just the discord. We can't tell you if the game is glitched/hacked/etc
How would a MODERATOR, a volunteer NORMAL person know if your game is hacked???
it is password protected
Thank you for being nice and letting me know
Then it's unlikely you were "hacked". Got pics?
The host of the personal servers would need to take action against the player and check their logs. We are also not developers, so Rhyvyn has a point. Sorry if we could not help with this issue.
I don't work for Keen and I have no access to your world. As Life said, we moderate the Discord.
Not game servers.

You can use F1 and screenshot/report weird stuff in game.
thats fine. some of you could have been nicer, but some of you were awesome. thank you @small pendant
But please include whether it's a server or single player only world.
no its server wide
i have a dedicated server where i only got people from THIS DISCORD to join my server
i can give you the names
short answer: very suspicious. Long answer: You'd have to ask the server owner to do an investigation.
Tiger means in your report
but i didnt know if you knew anything, which is why i asked
I'm sorry you feel that way considering you woke me up out of bed for that....
i am the server owner
Something
dont be a mod if you dont want to be woken out of bed for a mod issue
Again, no one HERE would really have a clue. But if you had pics and a location, we might be willing to ...
This is NOT a Mod issue.
Nope. Not willing now. That was rude AF
Mind your manners.
Have a great day @noble anchor
Okay, we've already answered what we can, but this is an ingame issue that needs to be reported to F1. Aside from that, let us all move on to other subjects
Who likes cake?
Yes i will thank you @small pendant youve been a sweetheart
Carrot cake is superior
O.O Are you offering cake?
ice cream cake, for me.
I take candy from strangers, I was never taught better
I prefer a good carrot cake over any other cake.
Or in this case, cake
Anything with cream cheese frosting is best. Cake is just a vessel.
That explains so much
But im not gonna turn down a free cake
free cake is the best cake. That will always be the correct answer
;____;
@small pendant Want some candy? It's in my van. Trust me, its the good stuff. Extra sugar.
I can't have carrot cake, I'm allergic to cinnamon. I love German Chocolate and yellow cake with chocolate frosting
Yay! Candy!!
Is yellow cake anything like yellow snow?
O.O no
Oh, ok, nevermind then
Absolutely is. Tiger's trying to trick you
yellow food covering snow cone, maybe.
I concur.
I wouldn't lie about cake....I'm not Glados
maybe it wasn't Glados that lied, maybe it was the cake
Debatable. Maybe you CAN survive hooked to a potato. Do you have proof you can not?
I am not a computer. I need more than a potato to live
you'd need 240 potatoes
240 potatoes can make a decent amount of vodka.
After all, Glados lies...
Do you run off vodka?
Or mashed tater. Or fries. Or chips.
Imma go cook some taters
Oooh...maybe I could run off fries
cheesy fries, regular fries, loaded fries, chili fries.....I really want fries right now, but it's 11pm
A few days ago I would have said my body was a combustion engine running off purely alcohol, but now my doctor says my pain killers cant be mixed wth alcohol so ive been sober for 4 days and it sucks.
If you ain't got an air fryer and a spud, well, that's a YOU problem.
I hope everything is okay and your pain gets taken care of soon
11pm? It's 3 in the afternoon you weirdo
No spud...have air fryer
11:11pm actually
15:11
its 22:15 you morons
You are central time :p
I am in the future, I win
I have no sleep schedule I sit at home and watch movies and play games all day.
Or actually, think Marm is in the future
15:13 on the 24th of April, y'all are living in the past to me
GIVE ME THE LOTTO NUMBERS RIGHT NOW
Delusional. Haul this man away in a straight jacket
๐คจ
oh nice, someone pinged all the @moderaters
old news
The only time I ever see some purple names in here
Ahoy
So we're on a ship now?
Enshipped, new update in june
Purple
sounds boring
turquoise
on cod, no carp
Tyrian purple, nonetheless
Smells good to I assume?
Anyone seen any odd occlusion effects while tunneling in this game?
that would be an awesome addition
Yes?
Well Im out. Im army not navy. I hope you dont sink.
I was army, but then realized I was too smart and left.
Well, maybe not too smart, since it took me 7 years to figure it out.
first time in hollow halls, was great, but got booted (crashed) before i finished
being in a fishing boat on my pond is the closeset i wanna get to being on a ship lol.
I never finished the first one, ran out of arrows. Need a melee build next time I think
rookie lol.
However many arrows you think you need bring 3x as many
It seems strange to me that arrows aren't recoverable, I mean even 10-20% would be reasonable
Whatever you shot an enemy with a percentage of that arrows type could be looted back from the corpse
So let's say you shot something with 5 arrows. 1-2 should be found in the loot
There could skill called Arrow Recovery which gives the chance initially and increases the percent recovered
With the exception of explosive arrows of course
Okay, got a chuckle. Submitted a bug report and a screenie of an occlusion issue, first thing they did was tell me to see if I meet sysReqs. Good to know they aren't using any sort of spyware, kek
More like 10x. I did it as melee, couldn't imagine trying to archer it
heal / wizard with eternal spells ftw'
How'd you handle Mana? Or did you use endgame gear?
Good thing to know they aren't cutting and pasting generic responses from a list
By the way, have you tried turning it off and on again?
ya have the elder set have but dont have all the skillpoints yet....mana was only rocky on kindlewastes dual cyclops fight
Why, yes, yes I have
mass destruction helps heaps on the bulk skellies
That a perk?
a staff with mana leech will help a lot with mana management
Mananagement?

hey if anyones interested im giving away lvl 25 gear, dm me and i can get you in my lobby and give you a set plus a weapon:)
i use ritual tempest wand with shepards lighting staff
blackened staff is my staff of choice
i also have a spare ghost glider for the first person
3 regen plus crit and crit damage or can use overgrowth staff its like 5 regen i think
mana leech just gives so much mana back, you can basically cast unlimited fireballs at large mobs
it scales on damage done
indeed
mass destruction and chain hit as well
ritual tempest wand is nice as well
+55 electric damage
2 hit the lvl 30 birds in kindlewastes
with only wand
yo yo is the luminous want any good??
I really need a mana leech staff at some point. 
hey gang, what's up!!
Waaait.
Two exclamation marks?
That means we get a teaser today. ๐
what
I've been awake since way too early waiting for an Ikea delivery, so I'm slightly manic
thoroughly expect to crash by lunch time
Have a good crash. 
it's 11 buddy
wuh woh
For me 12 is lunch time. 
That's in 50min Van...
I've never said that I function like the regular human.
I wouldn't expected that from you
Insert _ for more advice.
_
You know what I mean with _. 
Anyway. My new Discord takes shape. I wonder if I wanna link Enshrouded news to it. ๐
Okay. CUB.exe seems to have crashed. 
I'm working on the next tiktok
Is it about food?
some good patch coming in?
probably not, we're hard at work on update 2
CUB is always confusing.
His picture says yes, but the Emoji on the right side says no. 
gotta keep you on your toes
๐
gimme a pas de deux Vanolia
Update 2:
No water boo hoo
there will definitely not be water in update 2
that's a pinky promise
I think you get a bunch of important minerals from water as well?
Nahhhhhh
plus there's plenty of sunshine now he's out of the cave
Rrrr I live in a cave and I love it ๐ง
Is there a timeline for when the northern part of the map unlocks?
No.
im early into my game and i cant find where to make chest it that not a thing early on?
The work bench let's you make chests
oh im stupid lol thanks
Yea I would hope you guys send out some security measures for server owners and to fix the quests server side progression issues before adding "water" lol
Stop calling it a fix....
we answered it somewhere else https://www.reddit.com/r/Enshrouded/comments/1c4omlh/ama_were_the_devs_of_enshrouded_come_ask_us_your/
It's indeed a fix lol only players who are happy at the current state are solo players
Players who have friends, communities etc kinda are being left out :/
It's indeed not bugged :3 It's only a addition for people who don't know what "coop" is
I think its just a case of them needing to be a bit clearer about the "intended" playstyle they're actually designing for
Never said it was a bug but the current set up isn't ideal
For players with friends and or a community
update 2 material
Very good looking forward to it I'll pass the information to my community
I host 5 servers isn't not easy to (control progression) so nobody misses out lol
update 2 is currently slated for 6ish weeks from now
You call it a fix aka its bugged which it is not
Not sure why you helpers get so defensive when problems are brought up to the community to help improve as a community ๐๐๐๐
I get it you enjoy solo
She's right though, to be fair
But players like us wanna enjoy the game too with friends
Good stuff!
if you call it "a fix", people who are just passing by and don't know better will think something's broken
It's intended to be played alone or in a small group, random multiplayer just gets added to reach more people ||and to stop people whining||
as opposed to a design decision that we've decided to change according to player feedback
I get what you mean, Boba. And I also think the game will be more enjoyable for certain groups (my group included) once quests are not server side anymore.
I think @subtle prawn is pointing out that it's technically not a fix, because it isn't something broken. It's just a change to accommodate the groups that would enjoy the game without server sided quests :)
he's just repeating what I said don't fall for his tricks
Hey now, don't expose me like that
barely back and already stealing my jerb
lol
hope you've been well btw
Not quite, but getting better. At least working towards it
keep at it
How about you, cub? Doing well, I hope
I'm quite alright. Currently working on AMA recaps, and on what's next
Nice. I've been enjoying the YouTube Shorts recaps :)
Ooooh, cub. Give me a sec, I have to show you this
oh-oooh?
damn, my own banana tree has just started...
sprouting? Blooming?
the new leaves are coming out, basically
Cute baby banana tree
around these parts the practice is to cut it back down to the ground in the off-season, so frost can't harm the tree
buuuut I'm new at having a garden so I haven't done that
@pseudo palm hey! How have you been doing? ๐
I feel like those banana trees are big scary spider magnets from what I've seen
free protein
Hi Frie! Good to see you around
I've been better (hence my absence this past month or two), but things are looking up now
How about you?
Oh yeah. Not in a garden setting like mine, but in plantations or further north in the country? Absolutely
hello, did the devs mention anything about the game being playable with only 4gb vram in the future?
yes, "it will be less and less possible at time goes on"
Glad to read that! Looking forward maybe seeing you around again more often ๐
Iโm okay - super tired after traveling and staying up for like 32 hours
damn, that's a long ride
Yeah โฆ Dรผsseldorf -> Dubai (waiting for 5 hours) -> Jakarta
And Iโm not able to actually sleep on a plane
how many reruns of the office have you watched then
Oh wow. I hope you catch some rest now
I once had to wait two days for a flight in Auckland. My flight kept getting delayed. The airline company paid for a hotel and transportation for everyone on that flight
I guess I wouldn't mind a 2 days layover in NZ
Not a single one - sorry to ||again|| disappoint
Yeah about to sleep now ..
My body hates me right now
I didn't either. The problem is that the company would get us to the airport and make us wait for hours on end each day until they said "no flights today, lol" then it was back to the hotel
Sleep well 
Thank you!
You guys have a great day / night !
sleep tight
I prefer to sleep loosely
Eek!
I actually almost dislocated my foot in my sleep once
Cuz the sheets were tight and got caught on my toenail
what
Ye, if it wasn't for my feet being angled outward I actually would have sprained it even more seriously than I did
talk about a silly injury
extreme lawyer ad voice
"has your BED ever tried injuring YOU? You could be compensated!"
Oh hey ABF, been a while
It's like I'm watching a Texas Hammer ad. He's jumping on a bed instead of an eighteen wheeler, though
โโโ A Bad Feeling is typing...
Hi Zen :D
I mean between the leg injuries and sleep paralysis I almost suffer more serious injuries as often in my sleep as I do in my week.
Sleep is an endeavor
and Endeavor is a space shuttle
Also the number 2 hero
100% of people who have slept at least once in their lives, die.
Sleeping is no joke people
And one of the most powerful normal-type moves
opens a cold red bull - juneberry, and lights a smoke, sitting down in a corner of the tavern ^^
I keep sleeping, I keep waking up. What am I doing wrong?
Jester be like:
"What do you call a man who hasn't slept in nearly two weeks!?"
"Uh, I don't know?"
"Oh come on now, what would you call me?"
"You? I thought we were talking about someone who.. "
"HAHAHAHAHA YES! WhAt WoUlD yOu CaLl Meยฟ!"
"It's all about the breathing." 
will there be post sign that we can write things on it ? for the chest
WAS a space shuttle haha
yes, later down the line
"is a retired space shuttle enjoying its time on the farm"
Anyone can craft me an CircularSawBlade? lost minde due a bug an cant farb iron yet -.-
Just go back to where you got it from.
yeah, tried that many times, also server restart.. they are not there. Had them in my inventory and died few seconds later (from that fat mostern thing there), then game crashed
Make a solo world and just go loot it there
Donยดt i need the Quest or something?
can't wait for townsfolk to be added
making huge bases/towns will be a lot more rewarding
hopefully ,they walk around a bit too
a very basic pathing system players can control would be nice
nope its always there each login
like setting borders where NPCs can wander so you can exclude your character's bedroom for example
thx, will try
i rent a server on g portal, but its unplayable since 2 hours , its really lagging in the game, someone have the same problem
Restart the server
ok i try this thanks
Is that within yours altars range?
If not harvest it and it'll be respawned tomorrow. 
Terraria crossover.exe
Cannot wait until 6 weeks get added to the calendar
Anyway. Back into the blanket! 
listening to Aaryan Shah - Love is Violence
new build session, lets go 
I havn'
I havn't seen anything on the talent tree. I was wondering if there is a plan for any changes?
I like the game but the talent tree is kinda meh.
What's the max level that I can have a weapon? 30?
I havn't seen anything over 25 before upgrades.
How do I have a lv 35?
#screenshots-and-art message
An old bugged weapon that was resolved in an early patch, but the ones that existed were not adjusted.
So the max is 25, and 30 if you enahnce the weapon right?
if it is legendary yes, that is the current maximum
Okay thanks!
@sturdy crane It worked, Thank you very much
Thank you dude ๐
Was it max 35?
The base was 30, legendary allowed it to get to 35
Also was it just by number or did it have increased stats
No idea, he shared a screenshot. You can go compare the stats if you want.
Ooh I hope it was not too op
Stop being so cranky, ye old gamer! It will come soon!
Shaking Cain? What about Abel?
Both of em
It's spelled "cane" you silly wabbit
sugar cane?
Candy Cane.
Keeps you busy while waiting for content!
If the other games I was playing would get updated I would have something to do while waiting but they are waiting too
(stares out the window)
Play "No rest for the wicked"! Wickedly good game
Seriously though I kinda wish they would give us something even if its small stuff like new decorations or something
Jus a little something each week would be nice
Brother, we just had an update
must ... have .... MORE
You can wait at least 6 weeks
(sits in corner and rocks back and forth)
Do you have any idea what goes in to releasing anything? You have to build it, QA it and such, and that takes time. Releasing stuff every week is one hell of an ask for a small team.
Hey they're the one's that got me hooked on this crack
I'm only talking little things, like a new table decoration, or a new shrub
It's great that you love the game, but what you're asking is still what I wrote above. It's not just "release" something.
but .... but .....
(twitches)
(slumps down on the ground and stares out across the long empty desert)
Also the drip feed strategy is just really terrible for business tbh if you aren't a live service game
You generate more sales/playerbase/attention by doing occasional big releases, rather than frequent tiny patches
Which is easy to understand from the consumer POV. You'd be much more excited to see that your favorite game just had a massive update with pages of changelogs and huge new expansions, rather than looking at the store page and seeing that the most recent patch just fixed a few bugs and added some new decorations or something.
Same goes for news sites/games reviews/journalists. They'll probably ignore little updates, but they'll cover the big stuff
And honestly even live service games still do that lol, "fornite just reworked its entire map" is much more exciting for players than "tomato town changed a few buildings"
I suppose. Some games actually do that though. Small patches to add a few new items to make the players happy until the next big update
Yeah and we still do small updates, but generally they're more focused on QOL/balance and stuff, tweaks
Which is what most games do, but there's always outliers I suppose
Why you have to make the game so awesome? This is hard waiting.
But adding just one like furniture piece takes alot of effort to test it, and make sure it works with everything else, and the world, and then QA and whatever other steps it takes to put that furniture piece out in the world, and by then, you want another one because that week has already passed ๐
I'm a 35 year gamer and I feel like a kid in a candy store
Yeah I get it, I also have had a bunch of games that I desperately want more content/changes in but have to wait lol, development is painfully slow, which developers know better than anyone.
Though tbh the way we released updates wouldn't really change that, it'd just shuffle the psychological problem around. And it would probably result in bigger updates being less exciting
At the end of the day we're making stuff as fast as we realistically can
Yeah and these guys are doing an amazing job which is the only reason I am not jumping out the window waiting I know they are making it great.
I'm a 46 year old gamer (which is why I'm gonna bring you to court for that username), and yes, this game is great, and we all want great things for it. They will come, but we have to be patient ๐
Not 35 years old, playing games for 35 years. I'm 57 ๐
Pft, I've been playing games for 41 years. Got my first C64 at age 5 in 1983 and never looked back ๐
Hey if your first game wasn't Atari Pong then it doesn't count
It actually was I think. My stepfather had pong on the tv on some console.
And yet we didn't demand new content for it every week! cough cough ๐
It really is crazy the kind of stuff we used to play as kids for hours on end lol, and I grew up with much more exciting stuff than pong, but it's still pretty pathetic compared to today's games
It was so simpliefied I actualy wrote games like that. In BASIC no less!
Yep! But it's great that it's contantly evolving, wouldn't you agree?
My kids also like the very simple games, but I'm sure they'll grow out of it eventually.
I wrote a version of Missile Command in BASIC
Oh yeah I have my issues with the games industry but it's still better than its ever been. Mostly how accessible and successful indies are
Indies ftw, 100%
Indies are making some of the best game today
People who are bitter about the games industry are just too lazy to look beyond AAA, it's like the people who complain about the music industry and only listen to what's on their local radio stations
Yo, what about the AAAA that Ubisoft is putting out here, istn't that something? Everyone should do that! ๐
It truly is incredible that we finally have the technology to add another A, it took us a long time to get here
Lmao yeah for sure
Game devs used to be what indies are today. Games were really well done. When they started getting bought up by these big companies who didn't understand what made them great (and successful) thats when they started going down the toilet. Indies are old school devs making a comeback
Probably a lot of older devs out there that are a little bitter about having to be restricted to those money grab environments and told not to do things well
One problem these days, the way I see it, is that some game studios don't give a crap about making a good game. They only care about how much money they can squeeze out of the players, and that makes me very sad.
Tbh I remember a looooooooot of really really bad and borderline scammy games back in the day, I think people just kinda forgot about those because... Well they were bad. But a lot of the games you could buy at stores and stuff would often just be straight up broken or really poor quality, and basically just existed to bait kids into buying whatever was on the cover art of the box
All your base are belong to us!
Even looking back at some of my favorite games as a kid, I'm like damn these were actually super lazy design lol
For sure, but alteast back in the day when you bought a game on a hardcopy, that was it. No need to be online, no need to buy stuff in a shop or whatever. Good or bad, you got the product you bought, and that was that.
There's been a few games that they never intended to complete and release they just baited people into investing massive amounts of money into the game such as buying a peice of land, or becoming a lord or a king of a province. One game I am thinking of I cant remember the name
cough Day After Tomorrow cough, what?
every nft project
No wait, that's not the name of it
But yeah modern live service has definitely created some problems, though tbh I think part of that stems from the sheer scale the games industry has reached.
If box price gaming had the same market size as gaming did today... Well for one I'm not even sure what that would look like, but also I am pretty sure developers would have still found ways to do really shady stuff with it
When there's billions of dollars involved, they'd find a way lol
You want good game design try an old game called Trespasser. Old grpahics, clunky player movement mechanics, but it was really fun for some reason.
Mostly because the dinosaurs actually scared you at times.
One game that I still don't know if it has actually had a spiritual success that's better is SSX 3
I can't even explain why, but ever since that game released over 20 years ago I still have not seen a game capture the same feeling that game had
Even the SSX sequels missed the mark somehow lol
I say the same thing about the original Fallout game. Even the 3D versions just didn't capture that original look and feel of the wastelands
I haven't played them but there's been some fallout 1 spiritual successors that I've actually heard are pretty awesome
Play RDR2, that's the peak of a story game for me. Best game ever made (so far)
The first one was done by Black Isle Studios. I had the pleasure of speaking directly to the head dev who was very appreciative of my positive comments about the game evne so many years later.
"It's nice to hear from someone who appreciates the game even after so many years"
They really hit the nail on the head. They created the Fallout world and they did it the best.
My wife has been playing WoW since like middle Vanilla, and she's still at it, bless her heart. Not many games has that kind of retention ๐
Oh yeah there's some diehard fans of FO1 and 2
Fallout 4 is one of the greats too, in my opinion
I mean it's not the same universe style as fallout, but baldurs gate 3 is probably the best game in the same genre as the original fallout that exists today
FO4 was the peak of the 3D line. I am afraid that was the end of it though. FO76 is just a joke
I played the entire Baldur's Gate series and DLC's one of the best games ever. But I have not played the current 3D version and probably won't
Another amazing indie game was Gothic
BG3 is one hell of a game for sure, but that turned based combat istn't for everyone, but it's a gem.
Yeah I mentioned it because the OG fallout is also turn based
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Though tbh if you loved the other baldurs gates, I think you should give BG3 a shot. I have never heard a baldurs gate fan who didn't gush over it
Fallout Tactics was the first turn based combat version
Took some getting used to but it was fun
Am I misremembering FO1? It's been actually over a decade since I've seen it lol, I thought it was isometric turn based
it is
BG3 man, that's where you can spend your time, in a very wonderful way, while waiting for content for Enshrouded! You won't be dissapointed ๐
Why? FO76 plays like a better FO4, streamlined combat, better base building. It's objectively a good enough game that modders backport plenty of features.
You sure as heck aren't claiming 4's story was 'peak', beyond NV and 3...
No problem is a game like BG3 would end up taking a year of my life that I dont want to spend
Yeah that's accurate lol
It's the entire reason I haven't played it yet, I don't feel like I have time
Honestly, sounds like someone hasn't actually played in 6 years. The game is fun, now. Ignoring the cash shop of course
Because it was released as a compelte dumpster fire and stayed that way for two years. And Betheasda has turned it into a pretty interface for the Atom Shop. It's all about buying things on the Atom Shop and most of it is silly and absurd stuff that has nothing to do with the original wasrteland look and feel of the game
FO76 is a hell of a letdown compared to all the previous ones, in my opinion. The biggest problem for that game was the state it launched in, and how long it took to get it to even work half-decent.
Every bathesda game suffers from having sky-high expectations and being built on the creation engine lol
The modding community finishes their games
Yeah it's how its always been, but I think modern standards are making it more and more unacceptable
Like skyrim was a mess, they've released it like 15 times and never finished it
but it was a fun mess
So, hating to hate, got it. They've pulled off a 'redemption' arc at least as good as No Man's Sky, but folks can't get past their disappointment for their own overhype. It's a shame, cause it is fun for what it is.
And lets be honest FO76 was a money grab. And they ended up shooting themselves in the foot
Granted, the Cash shop is ๐ซ
16 times the detail!
I don't think FO76 was a money grab, at least not intentionally. It was a small off-shoot team of bathesda that couldn't control the scope of the project and got in way over their heads
I think the money grabbiness was an attempt to salvage that
I'm not hating, and FO76 haven't been anywhere near the turnaround that No Man's Sky has done. FO76 just istn't a good game to alot of people, including me.
That's what the Atom Shop has become. Trying to salvage the wreckage
But yeah there are a lot of FO76 fans, to be honest it was one of the most overhyped games of all time, and had one of the most disasterous releases of all time. So salvaging that would be... Almost impossible, in the public eye.
No mans sky was an indie studio that had basically no reputation before that game, and the recovery they made was genuinely insane. So people were pretty willing to forgive them (and even then it took a looot of work to get to that point)
Oh but wait, the new Super Deluxe Special Super Duper Fantastic editioin of Skyrim is out now!
SMH selling the same game over and over ... only Bethesda
And to plenty of people it is a good game. But it's okay. It's easier to blanket a game as bad, than to ironman the actual developers, their effort, and the things they did make fun.
cough Any sports game ever cough
And racing game
Yeah I wish I could say that was only bathesda but a lot of the biggest IPs are doing that lol
pokemon, cod, every sports game ever made
Slapping a new year on it isn't a new game, IMO
fighting games too
I think it's great that you think it's a great game. But you don't have to bash other people for not agreeing with you. I think that FO1-4 were great games, FO76 was a complete bomb, and Starfield was meh, but I still played through it to New Game +9. Not everyone has to think the same thing about everything, you know.
Yeah but Skyrim is a different kind of game and a different community
FIFA. My dad buys the new one EVERY YEAR. Drives me crazy
FIFA 4088, with more cash grabs
The way I see it is that those studios are doing new box copies instead of doing a subscription model, it makes more sense if you think about it that way.
Good news! He can't buy it ever again, because EA lost the FIFA license ๐
And the playerbases tend to be people who ONLY play those games, so they're fine with paying it
Thank the lord ๐
Brother... you can NOT seriously look at me and say 76 is worse than Starfield...
I've not been impressed with what happens to games when EA buys them out
Yes I 100% can. Starfield is way better than FO76
Starfield was so bad I literally apologized to people for recommending it before launch
Tbh arguing over whether a game is subjectively good or bad is kinda meaningless, it's just opinions
fair enough
Probably depends on where your values lie in a game, FO76 is a fairly different game than most bathesda things, it tried to be a sorta mmo
Unless we're talking about Bad Rats.
Best game ever, goat
no bad rats 2 is the best game ever fite me
What about Goat simulator? I mean it's got "GOAT" in the name, so how can it not be?
Mikey Mouse DLC when?
Also I love that bad rats 2 has "mostly positive" on steam almost entirely from people memeing lmao
What the hell is bad rats 2
true that, jimbo
If you were a Die Hard Beth fan, and couldn't see that Beth Austin was NOT Beth Maryland, that the game wasn't even initially developed by Beth at all, and you still expected Beth quality (such as it is)... I'm sorry. That's not the game or the devs fault...
Yeah I think that's the main issue with FO76, most people don't realize that it was not a "main" bathesda game
Which tbh is kinda still bathesdas fault, they marketed it as one
Yes
That didnโt answer me!!!
@icy yacht By no means did I mean to bash you, or your opinion, I just don't agree with your opinion on FO76, there's no reason for us to get hostile about it. We can just agree to disagree, and go have a beer and be good about it right? ๐
It's the sequel to bad rats
Half the folks who hate 76 literally expected FO4 multiplayer...

@pliant quarry watch it with the mods, they might bring out the ๐จ on you!
Beware the purple terror!
Huh? I was speaking neutrally with that last one. You're free to like as you choose. Just, as an (ex) dev, I'll defend those poor code monkeys for what they did right. shrug I look for the good side of games, I guess. It's just too easy to hate and find fault.
Aw snap. Doestn't work for us mere mortals
Oh the way those developers salvaged FO76 as much as they did is actually insane I'll agree with you there
I decided long ago to find the positives in the work of other devs.
It's honestly crazy how far that game has come
FO76 has done a really good turnaround for sure, but the way it launched, and how long it took is horrendous.
It'll always be super easy, barely an inconvenience, to bash a game for what it isn't... especially subjectively.
Hence I'm a 'silver lining' guy for games. shrug
No hate or ill intent for those who dislike them.
The game wastn't even playable for the majority of people on "launch". That was a pretty major issue, and I'm sure that contributed to it's reputation, but let's move on.
Ya I feel ya, I am in a similar boat and I think most game devs are
Though I am still fairly critical of publishers and investors, who are usually the real reason for such disasters launches tbh. The team for FO76 was basically setup for failure by the horribly out of touch scope for that project
I hate you
I answered your question
Oh. Suits get ALL my ire. You wanna bash cash shops, predatory premium currencies with a dozen conversion rates, 60$ reskin mtx, selling stash space... I'm in.
But the games. I try to defend those wherever I can.
I also get it's hard for folks to separate the two
Yeah I think that's what most people are honestly bashing when it comes to fo76, bathesdas marketing and information around that game was... misleading at best, downright predatory at worst, and then charging 60 dollars for it and then including fairly egregious mtx within that, when the game itself did not at all live up to that standard of monetization.
I think if that same game had released under like, an indie publisher, it wouldn't have gotten the tsunami of negativity that it did
but many people can't separate the suits from the devs, or honestly a good chunk of people don't even realize there's a difference. So they get the blame.
Indeed
As someone who pre-ordered it and played it at launch... The game was a terrible, empty, poorly optimized wreck with no enjoyment and no soul.
As someone just booting it up and closing in on 600 hours in it, 76 has been basically salvaged.
What ya'll need to do, right now, is hop on Disney+ and marvel at the wonder that is the new series "Secrets of the Octopus". I mean, their head isn't even where we think their head is, then their arms are attached to their head, and their mouth is in their armpits. They're very unlike us, and they have no bones, and they change colour, and shape, and they pour them themselves through tiny openings. They taste with all of their skin and they have three hearts, and they have blue blood and, like, wow!
Go do it, it will make you feel good! Good night ๐
FO76 is Bethesda's NMS.
Also the skyrim re-release meme is wildly unfair.
Ye, but I can almost guarantee almost nobody on the team wanted to release it like that haha, which is also the same thing that happened with NMS
The devs did not want to release NMS, they had to, Sony's call
You lost me at Disney
Yeah, I also played NMS on launch.
Which granted is partly an issue of poor planning from the devs, but at the end of the day I think they would have delayed more if they could
It's from National Geographic, but it's streaming on the Disney+ platform.
Special edition was an engine update test they did as a side project, and if you already owned skyrim you got it for free.
I'll pull out my Jolly Roger then, if it's that good
I'll also never blame a dev for releasing their same game again for people to play on later console generations that aren't backwards compatible.
But anniversery edition is just trash lol.
Yeah I mean if people want to buy the same game over and over again I guess get that bag lol
Only time I'll criticize that is when the port is somehow worse than the OG, like very buggy or poorly optimized or something
Octopus are aliens, prove me wrong! Nothing else on this planet comes even remotely close to what these guys are. So yeah, pull it out, it's one hell of a journey. I'm going to sleep, so night.
Its not even that
You would expect at least a few... hundred... quest and bug fixes, though, to be fair to the meme
This game has plans to release on ps5 and xbox XS
That release was literally just 'rebuild project files and send it', kek
At some point there will be a new console generation
Keen wouldn't be comitting some sin by releasing it on that next generation too
(provided you can just transfer ownership from last gen if technically possible)
Yeah I meant from the consumer point of view, if people want to buy something on a new platform, idk why people would criticize devs for that
Like they're just giving people what they want
I would be annoyed, however, if they did so and it still had launch day bugs...
I guess, but if the point is litterally "Hey more people can play the game now" i don't really care if they don't do further bug fixing?
Except none of the Skyrim releases except the Switch port fit your description
The darn well coulda fixed the Ring of Peeless Destruction while adding god rays...
Yes. Peeless.
A 13 year old typo they've sold a few million times.
It'd be kinda weird if bathesda released a game that wasn't really buggy at launch though, it's basically their brand at this point
I genuinely can't care less about them not fixing a spelling error on a minor randomgen magic item.
shrug
They gotta add bugs to re-releases to make sure they uphold their status
If I was a dev, I would have left it in there as a meme, or just to trigger people. cmon that's funny.
I'm not going to pretend their games are perfect or bug free
The argument here is Suit vs Devs. There are devs who've become modders just to fix the crap the suits won't let em while adding paid mods, part tres...
(my bug comment wasn't serious, bathesda games are all massive in scope and built on a janky engine it's sorta inevitable lol)
But their general level of bugginess post-launch is wildly overblown by people using terrible modding practices
While the suits just say 'compile and send, boys, we got Q4 projections to meet'
Yeah the engine has so many random quirks
But it is really fit for purpose.
Brother, you still can't autoSave and load during Vaermina's dream sequence. That's vanilla. Bricks your save.
Been there since day one.
You can find thousands of bugs on the wiki, all 360 and PS3 flagged.
Can't blame mods for that.
I doubt mods cause day 1 bugs.... which they're well known for ๐
Litterally the second entry under bugs notes the official patch version that fixed it.
At this point there are better open world engines than creation engine... Much better. But I imagine the vast majority of their devs have been working on it for so long that switching to a brand new one would be more costly/a bigger drop in quality than just continuing to work on creative engine.
Kinda the same with us here at Keen, most of our senior devs are just used to working on custom engines at this point. Forcing them to use like, unreal or something, would probably just result in worse games. Also in our case it's what helped us make such a compelling voxel system, that wouldn't have been really possible (or at least not easy) in UE5 or something.
I wasn't clear enough with "post-launch" as my choice of terms
I mean if you boot up say SE now after it has gone through its waves of initial patch updates.
No mods added
Guess what? That bug just hit my Vanilla, AE Edition, Series X save about 2 weeks ago, so IDK what to tell you
๐คทโโ๏ธ
Also bathesda bugs are often like, really funny, so I'm cool with it
Open world for sure
their NPCs bugging out has led to some of the funniest gaming clips of all time
NPC scheduling, questing with variable stages, item handling, custom potion crafting, etc?
Not as many engines that can do all of those alongside the open world.
There's certainly room for improvement and further polish that they aren't doing
But the engine itself isn't an inherent unfixable issue.
Those can all be added, though. Pretty easy. My dev career was doing just that. Altering UE4 source code into custom engines for studios. It's not even that difficult.
I know at least some of those are fairly trivial in UE at this point, but I don't know enough about UE to know if all of them would be.
But honestly what I mentioned earlier is much more important for a studio. I imagine them continuing to improve CE is far more effective than telling all their devs to re-learn development from scratch. They have a lot of senior devs
And I've modded Creation. I tell you truth, I'd rather rebuild UE with Radiant systems than build a game in Creation
They'd also basically axe their modding community and their big creators
Who would also have to re-learn everything
Yeah players also love creation engine, or at least their modders do.
I don't know why tbh, like Rhyvyn said it's a nightmare to work on, but I also am not a huge bathesda game fan in general
Misconception. UE games are easily moddable so long as development begins from that standpoint. And keeping a CK UI to keep modders 'comfortable' isn't difficult.
As Toast said, it's the Senior Devs holding that back, NGL. Too many old heads get into 'the way we've always done'... That, and the 3 years it would add to the dev time of ES6...
Can you turn off the ping on the replies please, when you are doing a bunch in an active conversation?
I honestly like when people ping me with replies lol but I also know for some people it's annoying
I really wish discord had a setting that went the other way around, letting people turn off reply pings on the receiving end. It's kinda stupid that they don't.
Sorry. On mobile. I forget about that. And it resets for some reason after every message
Yeah discord implemented it really badly
and yeah you have to go out of your way to turn it off every single message, it's really poorly implemented
By the way, in relation to Keen Games, massive kudos for doing something so out of the box compared to your previous work, and killing it.
Just another complement in the storm.
But the engine seems crisp as hell
One of the devs in the the isle server blows up on people when she gets pinged
I'm honestly impressed you guys custom built your engine, and at it's capabilities. No insult intended by any means, but it's not something I'd have expected, given the past catalogue.
Be like the Stardew Valley dude suddenly dropping a next Gen FPS engine that blows everyone away, lol
Portal knights was also a custom engine
So then everyone starts pinging her, i assume?
anything you could share about that, like a link to a vid or something, i'm curious how it looks
Yeah, but it was traditional voxel, from what little I saw (played a few hours). The kinda thing that I've seen CompSci students do. (Again, no insult, obviously yours was well done and hella polished. I just mean it didn't seem overly innovative.)
But Enshrouded's Engine is like a hybrid of Voxel Minecraft and...say, Voxel Plugin for UE4. Blew me away.
What? That was a joke. AFAIK, Ape is doing nothing of the sort
Ah yeah, it was a huge step up for us :) A lot of the learnings from that game definitely helped
Is this an fork of Portal Knights, or more like a parallel evolution kinda thing?
Had to take years...
The Terrain material mechanic is epic ๐๐ป
what kind of voxel is this exactly, exist a name for this?
Yeah built from the ground up for the most part to my knowledge, though I wasn't personally here during the beginning stages of the project
I don't really know if there's an official name for it, if there is I don't know it lol
I mean people argue all the time over the definition of voxels tbh
NMS has bad base building still
Is there an argument? Volumetric Pixel. A building block. Grid based. Which a LOT of folks don't get.
and warframe has too much grind repetitive rng content
I hereby dub them 'Crumbs' in your honor
Mostly where to draw the line, since there's now games who have non-square shaped ones, or really tiny ones, stuff like that
Though yeah like most labels in game dev, players argue over it way more than devs do lol
Warframe is a living Pavlovian project. I admire that...
Like is teardown a voxel game? I think so, but I also don't really care. Players really care though and argue about it
people love their semantic arguments on the internet
Oi!! No need to get personal, buddy...
Yeesh. Man straight up attacks me for no reason...
The internet is for......
Basically yes but it turned into a whole deal with them starting to delete pings 
i basically closed NMS because once you have an almost full ship, almost full inventory, almost all technologies, you aren't really driven to get full. and beyond that i was never really into wall placement games, prefer block builders. the prefabs offer little flexibility and are kind of ugly as well. in terms of what really was annoying, it was hunting a planet for 5 hours looking for an S rated power hotspot, so i could build an under water base. Honestly, they should have allowed players to see them, or just allowed us to have the best power output for free if we use the top tier power option... so I couldn't be bothered to continue this torturous process and closed the game.
and their ship customization is still lacking.
Try Empyrion
try x4 foundations and spend more time reading wikis than playing the game
God is it rough. But it's NMS and Minecraft's bastard lovechild
yea i wanted to build hybrids, not player versions of the same old mix
NMS is simple and easy in comparison to some space games ๐
it's still build from scratch, rather than an editor.
Path of Exile has entered the chat
i'd rather just edit the ship i have and customize it.
Warframe as well
i mean , i wanted to use the explorer long wings with the big pod and cockpit from a hauler , ect..
I have a degree in warframe math because it's somehow different than regular math
you cant customize solars or exotics yet, or sentinel ships
is that like minecraft banner school?
i know that
the only sort of fun i had was learning that i can just find sentinel ships over and over again, and make about 150 million credits in 2 hours
way faster than farming storm crystals
the paint job customization is lacking on what you can customize for ships too
to the point where they should just delete paints, it makes little difference right now lol
needs way more work
Speaking of, looking forward to Soul Frame...
Also, go give Kingmaker's trailer a like...
i'm gonna try and find that S pot in NMS and make my base still, but i tapped out of the game for couple weeks cause of it lol
Activated Indium used to be my go to. I haven't farmed units in so long. I can't remember why it happenes however, scanning new flora, minerals and fauna was a great way to make several hundred thousand credits extremely quick.
yeah you need upgraded scanners on your multitool i think, there is a price boost for them
acitvated indium is maybe 165 per unit? i forget how much one can mine but if you have 100k of it, it's only 16 mill
a storm crystal is worth 200k each, and you grab 5 in 30 seconds to 1 minute
and yet still this is ineffecient compared to a 30 million dollar ship you can get every 5 minutes if you farm sentinel ships
And another thing! ... I forgot what it was. Nevermind.
I haven't had an indium farm in so long. I'll have to make one on a S site and find out. the best part about it is it's passive other then picking it up from time to time. I guess it might also depend on how many extractors and silos you have. well you could even make AI valves or whats the new one thats worth more now? Perhaps I'll have to boot the game up again and have an existential crisis and see whats new.
Can you change your character appearance?
oh yeah that's true if it's passive farming might as well do it anyway and it's always worth it
and profits only increase with number of sites and silos
In Enshrouded? I don't believe you can yet
i didn't get into passive farming yet at that level
yeah in game. ok thanks.
It's not too bad. I'll go make one now. I'll let you know if it's worth it still.
No problem, but my info may be incorrect I haven't played the more recent versions.
Not 100% sure but I donโt think it is possible at this time
Kinda hoping we will be able to change our characters height he looks so tiny
I feel like a Hobbit
That's because you are just a cranky old fart, deal with it ๐
I am pretty cranky
Not gonna argue with that
Much love โค๏ธ and good night ๐
Westcot seems like a really good location for a camp
Hey I'm making a sky castle that I can port to for easy gliding. It's very high up, and I'm having trouble getting NPC's sheltered. Is there anything about being so high up that would result in them not being sheltered? Has anyone encountered this?
Would be nice to have roads on the map
Will my tombstone ever go away? I don't plan on retrieving that corpse.
Yup it will
Just keep the NPC's at a base with better rested buff and only use the higher base for travel. That's what I did. Settled at the Blue Goblet inn. The rested starts at 20 without even adding items. Mines at 73 now.
Just make sure they have a roof over their head (made of roof blocks)
give them a roof hat and they good to go
lol
I would love to see a rendering or cartoon of that. Enshrouded NPC's with roof hats
Ok thank sI've been having trouble with some but not others. I can put the blacksmith and the hunter side by side and the blacksmith is sheltered, but the hunter is not.
Hunter, Alchemist, and Farmer are all troublesome. Blacksmith and carpenter are fine.
2x2 of shingle just floating over their head
An actual hat or helmet with a little pitched roof on top
What
yo, pitched roof hat with the little tin chimney with cone on top๐
Hey its a roof. They are sheltered.
But I think its a little odd they cant seem to work unless they have a roof over them. Lot's of NPC's work outside. I mean what about wood cutters?
So apparently they massively decreased the value of Activated indium from the last time I played. Recession apparently ๐ can confirm it is definitely not worth it anymore.
Right... I'm off to bed.
nice thanks for checking
What kind of furniture, when shattered, offers you stone?
Benches in towers. But it's hella easier to just dig.
Im going to break it on spot for decorations
I am up to 41,000 runes
At some point they need to allow us to pile those ressources.
There needs to be a rune vendor to buy special rare items that dont spawn in the world.
I have found weapons with +X blunt/cutting/piercing armor, yet when I equip them and check my Attributes -> Protection menu, none of my blunt/cutting/piercing armor resistances are increasing. Is this a bug or am I misunderstanding what these bonuses do?
Or to implement runic payment for our light sources to be functional.
I mean... We throw 10 runes into a bowl with a flame to respec. Time to show our hard working light sources a bit gratitude and pay them for their work. 
Before... They'll burn out. 
Why would a weapons offer resistances... wouldn't the logical thing be they are attack modifiers
you have to post them in screenshots
and I get what you are saying, I just think it is dumb. Weapons should be attack modifiers
The axe I just found: #screenshots-and-art message
I think armor bonuses from weapons is fine.
Is there any upgrade for spells like Eternal Fireball?
silly to me, that is what armor is for. SO for that axe it would do +10 blunt and piercing to the enemies armor
There have been weapons that are used for parrying. It's fine.
But if you are right and it's meant to be bonus damage vs. certain armor types then maybe call it penetration.
I did not mean to imply that is what it meant. I was just saying - to me that makes more sense
If it is in fact parry, then it makes sense that it does not show up, as it would only work when parry
I used the word "parry" in the real world sense. Things like parrying daggers were used to defend. In game parrying is an active ability.
It's not a perfect comparison but I hoped it made sense.
It made perfect sense and that would be how it would work, only in parry or block mode. So not always active in stats
It has to be armor also as you stated. I posted Flesh Grinder in pictures and it says +11 blunt damage. So the "sheild" icon is armor
Okay. Do we know that to be the case? The armor bonus only applies when you are blocking/parrying?
no, just guessing. Might just be "broken" for now
I really enjoy this game. But I never moved past the 1st land I think...
Any big changes in the past several months? I likely won't get to that raid content. I am solo
greetings
yeah they had a large update and added Hallowed Halls and another NPC
Greetings
Nice
how hard is a wizard tower to build
as hard as you want it to be lol
There is no raid content, everything is soloable
I heard the HH are made for teams, but yeah
i'm hoping for improvements to the talent tree. so many games have bad talent trees
skill tree is fine
Not really, very soloable.
127 tp at level 25?
Yeah its pretty lackluster, but it wilรธ be expanded eventually.
Tp?
112 (111 if they fix the last bug) is max skill points right now
Level cap will go up, more skill points will come, the tree will be expanded
that sounds better. i knew it was over 100
i try to find meaning in all the trees having class names. when you spec into 3 or more trees, whats the class called then?
They were originally just three archetypes. Warrior, ranger and wizard (or maybe mage)
that sounds better
This chat is dead.
Plenty of things are dead but you donโt hear anyone going around pointing them out
It's only mostly dead.
It's dead
it def is
Does anyone know cpr?
Looks too dead for cpr
I know a full proof way to revive the chat.
I. Have. Free. Donuts.
Come and get them.
sugar coma + CPR = Sucrose Anonymous
If you dont go into a coma from too much sugar, have you really done anything in your life?
Is there sugar even in the game
Gas prices.
correct
The sun
The moon
my cat since 7 because she hasn't seen me fill up her bowl which means it must be empty, logically
There's your problem, you got a cat.
3
Thats worse.
admittedly
zero dogs
You need dogs.
@signal ocean I have a pittbull who can shotgun a mtn dew faster then I can.
that cannot be healthy for either of you
zero sugar :)
isn't mountain dew supposed to be like 3000% sugar
regular mtn dew yes lol
How much to complete the skill tree
3000% sugar in reference to what
"yes"
@signal ocean Dogs are superior to cats. A dog will defend you with its life, a cat will walk over your corpse to your killer and demand food.
no the cat will devour me when I die
no mess
then you just become environmental storytelling
ugh the hard decision. Its 4am I gotta be somewhere at 7. do I try to take a small nap or tough through it and stay awake another 14 or so hours.
napping is always the right idea
naaa ill just down a couple redbulls ill be fine

if it kills me then its suddenly not my problem anymore :)
Aaaand hello insomnia our old friend
I just realised I sent a wrong bug report yesterday, hopefully they'll think i'm dumb and won't investigate for nothing
if you received an email recap, you should be able to reply to it and say "nevermind I made a dum-dum"
I don't think I did unfortunately!
Me in Helldivers 2,
When my squad asks if I called for the airstrike far enough away from us so we could get out of the impact zone.
GGs!
Some one give me a pitch to get me hype for the game again. I just reinstalled it.
Step 1) Play game - Step 2) Have fun - Step 3) Profit
Best pet is the hedgehog
The Ultimate Lifeform
Me when my teammates ask if I picked up the samples while we're in the extraction shuttle
Best pet is ferret
-Damages a flame hulk from a distance
-proceeds to reload
-gets flanked by 2 different adjacent flame hulks
This is called a difficulty tweak
Become the flying squirrel and throw bombs from glider
We need a CTRL+RMB (or something) to move stacks between inventories, the dragging and dropping is fine but gets tedious
Shift + LMB ๐
Nope RMB
I meant: It is allready in the game. It's Shift + LMB
oh ok
Most games Ive played is RMB so its the only thing I tried
I kinda wish there was an industry standard for it
Doesn't it tell you below that inventory/chest?
Nope. On stackable Items you only get teh LMB = Move, CTRL + MW = Split stack, RMB = Actions and Del = Delete.
Would be nice if we could separate actual base design showcases from โall resources save file #377โ
it's mostly a discord problem
discord sort and search features are lacking for forum/picture channels
No?
yeah, because if discord actually designed good stuff, you could filter it easily
discord is notoriously a bad program that takes like 10 years to release good moderation options
it's going to take them 10 more years to give us better forums lol
That is simply one solution. And doesnโt really directly address why I want them them to be separated.
so sorting by house and art won't work?
i see the forum has house/art tags
if people are posting pics in the same channel, how will discord know to seperate them?
oh you mean #screenshots-and-art channel
i thought you meant the #1200109637815517184 thread ๐
they want to see pics of cool bases , not notices about bases just for resource hoarding.
