the-tavern

[sudden drum]

You literally said a game needs less (RAM) when not available.
And I asked you to explain that. What's the problem now again?
And I mean you (prob) said that, because I said it needs up to 10 GB.

[brittle sluice]

and yeah 64 is excessive, look for a higher transfer rate instead of size

[cold violet]

Is english your first language?

[brittle sluice]

I, having 64 gigs of ram, say this

[sudden drum]

Unfortunately not
I'm ashamed by myself sometimes

[plain scroll]

Yeah mine can't go beyond 3600MHZ unfortunately. I also don't have the dough to redo my build for at least a couple yrs.

[elder parrot]

Might not be. Its not mine either tho so not an excuze to be bitter on erryone

[brittle sluice]

it's okay, english is my first language and it's still a pain for me most days, don't sweat it

[cold violet]

I believe thats where the misunderstanding is. Your tone for people who arent use to interacting with people who dont primary english is off

[sudden drum]

NEVER defend me...pls

[elder parrot]

I didnt

Read again, toxicraven

[sudden drum]

Still need the explanation pls

[elder parrot]

No you need to calm down

[cold violet]

Theyre not bitter, you are just reading too deep between the lines of someone who doesnt speak english as their main language. As someone who deals with it on a very regular basis i dont really see where you are getting the idea that this person is so toxic

[brittle sluice]

I...still don't understand why you're having issues. I'm running 3200Mhz ram and over all lower spec

I'm genuinely confused at this point

[cold violet]

Now maybe they are being a bit sarcastic, but when i first seen your complaints it was a clear language barrier lol

[plain scroll]

Well I mean I'm not having issues. It's just not smooth. Maybe it's the engine

[elder parrot]

They told me another time that its 'fine thst people hate on lgbtq, cus 4chan was awesome', so theres more context

[brittle sluice]

okay so is your fame rate just tanking down to the teens?

[astral hull]

There’s a lot more context actually

[elder parrot]

Since i called it put they dont let me be kinda

[cold violet]

Oooh i see where the bitterness lies now

[elder parrot]

Yeah, they are kinda unpleasant to many here =/

[plain scroll]

No not that lower I was just hoping I could push over 100 maybe I'm just getting used to older games performance

[cold violet]

Nothing i can do to try and help resolve that lmao

[elder parrot]

I get that rhoid

Not ur job ^^

[brittle sluice]

https://tenor.com/MSl1.gif

[cold violet]

Na its no ones job i just like people to get along. All the division is getting boring

[long ruin]

Are players character saves being deleted as my character is missing?

[elder parrot]

I agree tho =/

[brittle sluice]

homie I'm over here trying to go through troubleshooting, hardware issues, and maintenance suggestions to make sure you're actually getting your best outta your components

and your issue is that you can't get more frames than you can visually recognize in a second?

[sudden drum]

Deleted by who?

[cold violet]

I think i know what you are talking about and i think its just general optimization. Even 60fps doesnt really FEEL like 60fps

[long ruin]

Just gone in general

[sudden drum]

Did you mess with SteamCloud settings?

[long ruin]

Nope

[elder parrot]

11400f, 16 gb, rtx 2060 super - 50 ish fps
11400f, 16 gb, 4060 ti - 100 ish fps.

Using dlss.

Dunno if the observations help any, but its what ive seen ^^

[sudden drum]

Save file location:

• Steam Cloud: "...\Steam\userdata\ {UserID}\1203620\remote"
• Non-Cloud: "C:\Users\ {User}\Saved Games\Enshrouded"

SteamCloud Storage: https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorage

Check there for "characters" file. Where is the biggest?

[cold violet]

Did you play since tuesday? Steam update on tuesday fk'd up my cloud for over an hour i couldnt play anything

[plain scroll]

Yeah maybe it's just the engine. I don't see the difference between 60 and 100 in this game idk if it's optimization or what but I don't see a difference. Performance improvements is included in the roadmap anyway. Time will tell. All I know is lords of the fallen performs twice as better than enshrouded and LOTF is unreal engine 5. Something is just weird here is all I'm saying.

[elder parrot]

Tuesdays on steam always messes up games that need to check on steam before some actions or saving or loading =/

[long ruin]

No that could be the issue then'

[cold violet]

Enshrouded devs built their own engine for this game. Ground up

[elder parrot]

Sometimes i call tusedays the 'play old non steam games' day to save me the headaches ^^

[elder parrot]

There is a camera panning locked to 60hz bug, its being worked on

[plain scroll]

That could be why then. Makes sense. I still love the game regardless. I just wished it was a little but smoother. Time will tell.

[plain scroll]

That could be why it definitely feels lower then 60fps

[elder parrot]

So it will feel odd no matter the frames atm, they are working on fixing the camera 60hz issue

Yeah! ^^ dont worry it will get fixed im sure ^^

[plain scroll]

Yeah I mean they are having a patch this month so let's see if that improves everything.

[elder parrot]

Temp workarounds is capping fps to 60 and the camera accesecibility setting, it only makes it a little less annpying tho

[plain scroll]

Il try that

[elder parrot]

Good luck ^^

[quasi saffron]

[woeful light]

I've become obsessed with building secret bases underneath peoples bases and seeing how long I can stay undetected

[plain scroll]

Lol

[cold violet]

Lmao that honestly sounds fun

[carmine scroll]

So, I noticed a strong BotW influence on this game and I am honestly really digging it. I even like the improved version of the stamina bar.

[woeful light]

breath of the minecraft (nice pun btw)

[carmine scroll]

_>

aww nuts, how do I respec again? :S

[elder parrot]

I love the botw vibe of enshpuded alot ^^ exploring the world is my fave activity in it ^^

[quiet geyser]

I mean ever since BotW basically every open world game adopted gliders, stamina wheels and extreme open worlds where you can go literally anywhere

[carmine scroll]

ya, love the stamina wheel, they need to do that with HP too.

[quiet geyser]

Enshrouded just made it fun

Rested buffs is goated

[elder parrot]

Botw + conan exiles is my feel, its not as much valheim procgen feel to me at all ^^

[quiet geyser]

Not a fan of procgen it feels lazy and uninspired

[elder parrot]

Yeah it can be

Its why i dont agree with valheim comparisons for enshrouded

[quiet geyser]

Handcrafted worlds is actually fun to explore because pois are intentionally placed for lore

[elder parrot]

Thats just my point too yeah ^^

[quiet geyser]

Which is why I love games like subnautica and large Minecraft adventure maps like Drehmal

[elder parrot]

Procgen works for minecraft, only because they have yeeeeears of adding variety to it, in other games its so-so

[astral hull]

I can see the appeal to procgen worlds but at the same time, they also become boring after a while just as a handcrafted one would.

It’s the same poi’s/biomes just in different locations

[elder parrot]

Starfield showed worst example of procgen, "lab 1 or 2" kinda

While minecraft does it well, cus of how huge it is

Botw and conan exiles are fit comparisons to enshouded cus map, explorstion style and building (but much better in enshrpuded cus voxels)

Btw, all my typos are always for free, i type on a clumsy touchpad which drives me insane ^^

[astral hull]

You mean you don’t charge for typos?

[elder parrot]

Lol nope, im so nice like that lol ^^

Its just i fix some of them, and on some i just give up ^^

Enshrouded likes to hit alot of closeby keys ^^

Ebsphrded ^^

[astral hull]

Use the auto carrot 🥕

[elder parrot]

Auto carrot doesnt like my odd custom words instead! ^^

[astral hull]

Although it drives me crazy. It capitalizes the C in Can for some reason

[elder parrot]

Yeah and all my personal slang is hated by auto carrot ^^

Im scared it would auto carrot to any naugthy word and me not noticing ^^

[woeful light]

I'd be more scared of an auto-carrot tbh

[astral hull]

Not naughty auto carrot

[elder parrot]

^^ lol

[quasi saffron]

Fear the wrath of Auto-Kakarot

[sour rivet]

Hi, i have a question, i am currrently downloading the game so please know i know nothing about game, is there a group on this server that plays the game while roleplaying. Also is it kosher to stream twitch while playing. i want to use enshrouded for growing my twitch channel as i like the rpg vibes which is thee vibe im going for my channel. Sorry if i sound promoting, im not trying to, just trying to get info

also if someone wants to play with me to show me the ropes i would be more than aprreciative

[wraith umbra]

You may find someone in #1195389948069675009 that is interested in RP.

Yes you can stream the game.

[dusky heath]

Welcome new Flame Born!

[sour rivet]

nice

[echo solar]

Gotta admit even if discoveries and quests are only server related, it is very cool that you can save multiple worlds (local saves) and use new or previously made characters in any of them !

[sour rivet]

can you move your stuff across worlds?

[gusty river]

believe whatever is in your inventory will transfer with your character

[sour rivet]

4000 pounds of hobbit leaf? asking for a friend. lol

hobbit leaf is tobacco. any true tolkien fan knows this

[woeful light]

while thats true, saruman says "your love the hobbits leaf has clearly slowed your mind"

[sour rivet]

hmm. mightve been a movie qoute

in the movies it was probably that leaf that we shall not speak of for fear of the baan hammer

[elder parrot]

Can also have just been tobaco imo

[fathom hollow]

does anyone know if when they update, will we need to start a new server or will it update our current server? ty.

[small pendant]

@fathom hollow They are trying hard to make it so that we don't have to restart the servers but unforseen things happen when you're adding a ton of things to a world.

[fathom hollow]

thank you!

[small pendant]

It put a weird name in there for you... Mobile be trolling

[snow mantle]

early access characters will carry over into the final version of the game right?

[south rivet]

Thinking of buying the game just a couple of questions,

Can the game be played solo? Or do you have to join some sort of official server?

How is the solo expierence (of coop if my wife wants to play)

[elder parrot]

Its awesome solo ^^

[snow mantle]

you can play solo or co-op, both are fine. i started solo and got a buddy into it and its been really fun

its super relaxing and immersive too

[elder parrot]

Id say solo or coop with steady partner are the best options as it works ^^

[south rivet]

how varied are builds?

[elder parrot]

Steady meaning easy to coordinate so u can unlock things together

[snow mantle]

there are 4 main builds id say, melee, mage, archer, healer, and you can specialize between all 4 of those to customize it how you want it

[mossy meteor]

love it solo. very relaxing. 🙂 beautiful building system and a lot to explore! interesting lore behind everything 🙂

[snow mantle]

i mean if you want an honest opinion you wont find a better $30 game on steam right now

[astral hull]

id say 3 main really. its basically caster, archer and melee with a fair amount of customization options

[tame hawk]

There's many cool ways to build your character, take my co-op build for instance. I rock a tank/healer str/int focused melee, it's got good damage and wicked healing without needing to whip out a staff to cast

[snow mantle]

im running a tank atm

[ionic jay]

Read somewhere you can find save friles somewhere on the discord for creative builds?

[snow mantle]

the lifesteal is really nice

[ionic jay]

With stashes of stuff? anyone know where to find it?

[astral hull]

check out this link; https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1206680816080392192

[ionic jay]

thank you!

[tame hawk]

Check out the base design channels, they've got good shit

[snow mantle]

im honestly surprised stuff like that is promoted on the official discord lol

[mossy meteor]

oh lifesteal. love that. weapon and a lot of regen

[tame hawk]

I'm glad they welcome promoting resource worlds, it's a nice surrogate until if/when we get some sort of creative mode

[molten kite]

Is there a link anywhere where i can see the build contest winners, without watching a non english twitch stream ?

[snow mantle]

kinda makes the gathering aspect of the game pointless though when you can just have infinite resources

[astral hull]

a lot of people might not enjoy the gathering aspects of the game as much and want to just build

personally, im a gathering machine but i know my buddy hates that part of the game

[snow mantle]

not everything is for everybody

[tame hawk]

If you're the type to look for it you're probably not the kind to grind it out, I'm the same way esp after I beat the game

[snow mantle]

i mean does this thing have every material in the game or just building stuff?

because if its literally everything then thats pretty broken

[astral hull]

my recommendation would be; dont get into the public resource server until after youve beaten the game

[snow mantle]

i dont plan on getting into it at all

[astral hull]

but yes, its mostly everything

[snow mantle]

pfft

[astral hull]

before arrow crafting was fixed, i would go in there to supplement my feather and book supply

[tame hawk]

Sure saves my ass 30 mins of farming stone for terraforming

[snow mantle]

it just sounds like a good way to cheat yourself and suck the adventure out of the game though imo but thats just me

[mossy meteor]

personally i love gathering. dunno the ambience and everything makes it relaxing somehow 😄 even if bigger builds take time with that somehow i like it when the castle/house/projects gets slowly bigger over time 🙂

[tame hawk]

Different flavours of people, feel me?

[snow mantle]

its rewarding and feels nice when you see the finished product

[mossy meteor]

yes, thats true 🙂 and you always have enough time to reconsider design choices and so on 🙂 or just experimenting a little bit with materials and so on 🙂

[astral hull]

the building competition also put a lot of pressure on the participants to use the resource servers to finish their builds on time

[snow mantle]

i just cant really see that stuff being good for the long term of the game

[tame hawk]

There are so many nice ways to build, that DeLindsay Gaming guy on YouTube taught me a shit load

[snow mantle]

like for a normal person whats the point of putting in the work in this game when everyone is just gonna get infinite materials from the resource server. devs might as well just give everyone the resources now lol

[viscid bluff]

does it affect your gameplay when others use it tho?

[raven tinsel]

I saw on reddit theres a way to get like a free build or creative mode. Can anyone shine some light on the subject?

[snow mantle]

it affects the entire health of the game which in turn affects everyone, but im not here to argue, really. i enjoy the game and gonna play it either way

the crafing is already so easy though, ive played some grindy-ass games before and this game makes crafting and gathering very accessible

[analog sail]

You Play To Enjoy The Game Yourself, Let Your Creativity Loose For Yourself.

Making Your Enjoyment Depend On What Others Do Isn't Healthy For You Personally, Even Outside Of A Game

[viscid bluff]

i waited til i maxed out two characters and got all the achievements before using the resource world file

[mossy meteor]

i dunno i feel like many, like i also, just say no. it would kinda take a lot of the fun away. because it would remove the loop of "gathering -> building -> gathering" away. thats why also many from what i read ignore it for normal building or even grand scale projects and dont use these. it was back then put in for the competition.

[analog sail]

Having The Resource World File Is Like Building In Creative Mode. Sometimes You Just Feel Like Doing That, And That Is Okay.

Can Continue Separately On Another World With Never Using It

[viscid bluff]

best way to look at it

[snow mantle]

c'mon dont kid yourself lol

[viscid bluff]

saying the resource world negatively affects enshrouded is like saying creative mode killed minecraft

[astral hull]

not everyone feels the same way, people play the game for the aspects of it that they enjoy 🤷‍♂️

some people play the game and never build a single thing, they only do the quests and quit

[snow mantle]

you cant take resources out of creative mode and transfer into another mode though

[viscid bluff]

you mean into another server?

[snow mantle]

yes

[astral hull]

some people even play without double jump. can you believe that??!

[mossy meteor]

jup some people try creative stuff there out, some play everything singleplayer, some with group farming. so many ways to play the game.

[viscid bluff]

i saw someone do a twitch run without a glider.. that was insane enough.. but i get the whole "don't spoil my world with your massive stacks of blocks" mentality too.. that would suck for some

[analog sail]

To Each Their Ownn

I Could Not Play Without The Jump Smash XD

[astral hull]

oh i totally get it, i wouldnt want someone bringing stacks of stuff into my world either

[snow mantle]

if it was just a world where it had all the building resources and people couldnt just grab and dash and use them in other world or spread them then it would be a different story

[viscid bluff]

that'd be like me bringing my lvl 1200 character in with all its building tools 😉

[snow mantle]

i get people want to build but i just dont see how flooding the game with infinite resources is not gonna have a negative impact

[astral hull]

also bringing in the blocks completes the quest in the world and unlocks the blocks, which i hope is something that is fixed

[viscid bluff]

some items require you to drop and pick it up at least to avoid that but still

[astral hull]

had someone join my fresh save with blocks in their bag, they rearranged them and the quest marked completed

[analog sail]

Thankfully Only Been Playing With People I Trust ... But That Would Suck ... Didn't Realize That Could Happen

[viscid bluff]

so moving the item does it too then.. yeah.. that should be fixable though if they looked into it or enough complain

[astral hull]

i think itll come with server permissions stuff

[viscid bluff]

i knew ingredient type items you had to physically pick back up on the server/world to register but i didnt know moving them around for the blocks does it.. they should really just try to limit inventory transferring to exclude mission items

[astral hull]

yeah the quest thing is really a bum bum honestly

[viscid bluff]

i really haven't ran into that issue, nobody to play with most the time lol

[mossy meteor]

you just dont do it 🙂 its easy to make yourself your rules 🙂 the possibility for some people to use it is there. or to try creative things out. but its only a possibility. i mean if someone is for example using resource world ressources or building on his own world with them that does not have a negative impact on the game for me because it doesnt influence the fun the game gives.

[snow mantle]

i think it would be less of an issue if there was a seperate mode/characters for the infinite resources

i like the idea of having worlds that are legit where people have to put in the work

[woeful light]

my original world is solo self found, but I use resources for other peoples worlds, mainly for hidden bases, hopefully they will implement a character locking option for public servers, then you wouldnt be able to transfer anything

[mossy meteor]

i imagine seperate character would be difficult. especially because of the visiting others bases or so. you then would need to create different characters. i thing the easiest method is right now. using it either or not. depending on playertype ones love the infinite ressources, others not. but in the end everyone decides. kinda how it is now its that theres much freedom of playstyles.

[past isle]

rip

no new content i cry

oh wait

[prisma frost]

Not sure about new content but there will be major update later this month.

[past isle]

they released a "roadmap"

[prisma frost]

Yes

[mossy meteor]

Yep! many interesting features coming

[trim marten]

I got a feeling we will get some new content....building blocks...and that new dungeon they tweeted out

[subtle prawn]

Their wording definitely makes the dungeon heavily focused for the update

[trim marten]

yup

[subtle prawn]

Maybe the inside is fully in the shroud

[rigid haven]

I was hoping they would work on the skill tree and add more weapons in this roadmap

[subtle prawn]

It looks like for now we only get 1 new area and the other 4 are getting made better

[lyric citrus]

Well shit I thought that was the command

[quiet geyser]

have you seen lazypeon enshrouded review? its a good and honest review

[lyric citrus]

!size

[unborn sigil]

Enshrouded's demo map was about 1 km², Early Access is about 24 km², and full release will be around 64 km²

Created by abadfeeling#0 (180800697455869954)

[wraith umbra]

I doubt that the roadmap is the only things they will be working on without some nuance behind each item. A new biome kind of implies new materials/weapons and potentially levels/skill points. They may not change the skill tree, but I have a feeling it expands a bit with level cap increases.

[lyric citrus]

Is the Ethereal Shield intended to use Mana instead of Stamina? Because there's no benefit to it over a regular shield

[wraith umbra]

Nope, but it offers resistances instead. I don't think they were well thought out.

[woeful light]

I think it should be omni-resistance, the idea is correct: that you arent engaging enemies in melee, so you want defense against magic (and arrows, which aren't an issue)

[quasi saffron]

Good mornin' class.

[ionic hemlock]

We're watching a movie today. I hope it's good.

[wanton salmon]

is there anyway sex mod with elphes in enshrouded

[thorny fossil]

the hell

[ionic hemlock]

Where's my hammer? I need to bonk someone very very very hard. A few times.

[wanton salmon]

u are dumb enough u don't need to bonk urself anymore

[wraith umbra]

This is the best comment ever made in this discord and it should be pinned.

[wanton salmon]

so maybe sex mod with eplhes or smth is available

[ionic hemlock]

I was gonna use it on you.

[wanton salmon]

no pls

[quasi saffron]

And I thought I was crazy with my goal to have money in the game.

[subtle prawn]

You're not crazy at all van

[wanton salmon]

bro i mean i don't ask for an e-girl mod or smth just elphes pls

[rotund lotus]

I picked the perfect time to insomnia scroll the Discord

[quasi saffron]

For that there would be "elves" needed at all in that game. U sure u're right here? I think there are plenty games that uh...
Yeah. No. Sorry. Can't do that.

[wanton salmon]

ok guys i've gotta go

[tame zinc]

lol

[keen elbow]

Wtf did I wake up to

[quasi saffron]

I can never unsee it.

[keen elbow]

Go play Sims if it's so important 😂
Probably can build your enshrouded cave there too lol

[subtle prawn]

Dating irl would be an option too xD

[keen elbow]

It's rare these days

[subtle prawn]

Being a decent human being would help

[keen elbow]

Also rare

[subtle prawn]

There's enough questionable games for those who can't get it irl

At least the activity tuned down again

[keen elbow]

Just wait till the game fully supports mods😂

[keen elbow]

Maybe they went to look for something

[subtle prawn]

That's going to be a mess

[wraith umbra]

will there be elphes though?

[prisma frost]

What is elphes?

[subtle prawn]

No elphes

[thorny fossil]

Everyone asks “what is elphes” no one asks “how is elphes”

[glass shore]

hi guys im new here

[snow plaza]

Next update

[quasi saffron]

Must be a elephants mix.

[snow plaza]

Welcome Mike! 👋🏼

[quasi saffron]

Hi new here I'm VR.

[snow plaza]

Go back to bed

[glass shore]

good morning frie

and good morning at excellency

[quasi saffron]

A smart one!

[keen elbow]

But I just got up

[snow plaza]

Rise and shine
Teletubbies sun rises

[keen elbow]

Where's elphes in game tho?

[keen elbow]

Ohhhhh my god

[snow plaza]

Next update, for sure
Somewhere in the mountains

[glass shore]

sorry im from germany, but i will learn!!

[snow plaza]

Dito

[quasi saffron]

Me too. Nice to meet you I will learn.

[keen elbow]

Double beds incoming

[snow plaza]

Yes please

[quasi saffron]

And elphes. A rare arctic elephants breed

[glass shore]

ah nice too meet you nice guys:)

[maiden portal]

This game is so awesome and the New Roadmap is stunning 🤩

[glass shore]

like shanks , like ace

[keen elbow]

Hope they can fly

[quasi saffron]

In fact, the roadmap had only just one little tiny flaw. 🤏
No mention about pile-able coins and riches!

[quasi saffron]

It's a Dumbo breed. They flap their ears.

[keen elbow]

Maybe one day they add changeable block sizes etc
I'd like to build 2-3 layers thick walls

[quasi saffron]

Sadly I doubt that. Toast said something along the lines

[quasi saffron]

#the-tavern message here.

Now that you need a new purpose in life instead of smaller voxel, do you help me to achieve my goal for coins?

[keen elbow]

Ahh damn!
Coins it is then! Where my gold piles!?

[quasi saffron]

At some point we need a coin awareness day.

[potent valve]

Why no double decker couch?

[night temple]

hey ive been out of the loop and not really playing, has there been any talk of increased difficulty / combat/skill tree changes?

[quasi saffron]

Increased difficulty will probably come with world settings.
Combat tree and Skill changes will naturally happen with the implementation of new content.

[still igloo]

I hope they add more survival mechanics like hunger

[subtle prawn]

Hunger in most cases is just a tedious mechanic, rather implement heat/cold with the weather system

[keen elbow]

Green hell vibes

[wraith umbra]

more survival mechanics? which ones are there currently?

[quasi saffron]

And which one are needed, without becoming tedious?

[snow plaza]

Subjective

[quasi saffron]

Heat / cold I could accept. But what would they do.

[pastel oyster]

Not to mention, with the food system the way it is now, hunger would screw things up. Your intake is currently restricted adding a mechanic that also requires you to eat food would be a hell of a balancing act on the devs and the players. What food can you wat without getting hungry before the timers run out, etc.

[quasi saffron]

Oh no. Mamas back. 😛

Also some of the early foods hold like 5 minutes max... That would just become tedious.

[pastel oyster]

no coins for you.

[coral gust]

What did I just join into-?

[quasi saffron]

I've got followers already. 2!

[pastel oyster]

followers?

[quasi saffron]

People that support my coinquest.
Ehem. Conquest.

[pastel oyster]

I see. You didn;t scare them away? 😛

[coral gust]

That's definitely not disconcerting in any way.

[pastel oyster]

What is disconcerting?

[coral gust]

It's sarcasm, don't worry about it. I'm just trying to say hi whilst being confused on what I just joined into.

[quasi saffron]

We need coins to set up taxes. If we get, according to the roadmap, townsfolk NPCs I need a reason to throw this one NPC I can't stand into jail.

[pastel oyster]

a general chat on the internet.

[coral gust]

Touche.

[quasi saffron]

Internet. You know what you got into.

[coral gust]

Mayhaps

[quasi saffron]

Also, my jail will ever have a special place just for you. With a bed. You can avoid to sleep in. But no Discord anymore.

[pastel oyster]

only if you can catch me, copper!

[quasi saffron]

Guards. Get her.

[quasi saffron]

But you know, I could bribe the Scavengers to hunt you too. I just need to promise a bit of this Elixir to them.

[pastel oyster]

I think we scared off @coral gust

also there are way too many ravens on this server xD

[coral gust]

No, I'm here.

[quasi saffron]

Ravens of the crowd, assemble!

[coral gust]

I've been in worse, lol. This much won't do much xD

[pastel oyster]

well, welcome 🙂 I'm Kira, that's Vanolia.

[quasi saffron]

I like coins.

[pastel oyster]

He's a bit odd, but just tell him you want coins to be added to the game too, and he'll be alright 🤣

[coral gust]

Thanking you, I go by a few names. Feel free to call me K, Keegz, Phil (Old name was Philosoph, now my Discord friends call me "Phil"), Raven and if you think of any more, feel free to ask. I'm usually pretty chill with nicknames.

[pastel oyster]

neither of us sleep or have any semblance of a life so we are usually here.

[quasi saffron]

Also some of us are hyperfixated on hunting coins Trolls in this Discord.

[coral gust]

Well, I read his post earlier about coins and I'm not against it, though I think a refining of the idea, especially with the devs, may be worth the time and effort. It works well with human nature, so I can see it maybe working with specific NPCs in Enshrouded.

[coral gust]

I only have a sleep schedule on college nights. I'm on most of the time otherwise, lmao, so I feel that.

[snow plaza]

👀

[pastel oyster]

I speak only truth

[subtle prawn]

Welcome Raven

[coral gust]

Thanking you.

[quasi saffron]

Could you one day become the Deity of Riches?

[pastel oyster]

Sh yes, this is Sophia, our resident helper and fellow troll hunter.

[coral gust]

Here're my nicks, if it makes it any easier for you.

[pastel oyster]

I'm not entirely sure they sleep either.

[subtle prawn]

To busy duelling with Loki

[coral gust]

Nice to meet you, Sophia and makes sense, I suppose.

[quasi saffron]

Mean person.

[subtle prawn]

I do xD

[snow plaza]

Im not sure either for some people here

[quasi saffron]

Regulary Sophia is in a bundle with Samantha. Her twin.

[snow plaza]

@quasi saffron do you even work? 👀

[quasi saffron]

Uh. Speaking of!
Don't forget to pay my coins a visit!

[subtle prawn]

Sammy is my good side, someone has to balance that thing containing chaotic evil thoughts

[coral gust]

Already did

[quasi saffron]

By the way I'ma also the guy with really bad word puns.

[coral gust]

Same here

[subtle prawn]

Typical German humour

[coral gust]

It is

[pastel oyster]

he's not lying, they are really bad. 🤣

[coral gust]

I, too, have a German background.

[subtle prawn]

They're for a reason called "flat jokes"

[snow plaza]

Im sorry … fellow German

[coral gust]

Though I've been born and raised in Australia. Nah, don't care much; don't apologise.

[snow plaza]

I wasn’t being serious, I’m sorry 👀
Most of the time just dry comments here and there <- me

[coral gust]

I see.

[snow plaza]

Don’t worry, I’m not around often lol

[quasi saffron]

But you should!

[coral gust]

I'm perfectly fine with your existence. So long as you aren't a prick, we will be absolutely fine.

[copper apex]

Guten Morgen! 🤪

[quasi saffron]

Flat like a coin,
my jokes do reign!

[coral gust]

Guten Arbent.

[snow plaza]

I’m not
And I mean that

[coral gust]

Then we'll be fine. So please, don't fret.

[snow plaza]

[quasi saffron]

Sometimes she just Fries some Trolls.

[snow plaza]

Or you

[subtle prawn]

Too many Germans

[coral gust]

I'm Aussie/German. Do with that what you will, Sophia.

[subtle prawn]

Nothing since I'm joking around

[quasi saffron]

I'd remember that If that would be the case.
Wait. Was I the one with the bad memory or you?

[subtle prawn]

How about both?

[coral gust]

The answer: Yes.

[quasi saffron]

I think slowmode can be dropped. We're responsible individuals which do not spam!

[coral gust]

I'd enjoy that, but I doubt it. Twenty seconds feels a bit long.

[subtle prawn]

It definitely goes down soon otherwise we need to bother CUB

[snow plaza]

Agreed!

So …
What’s poppin’?

[coral gust]

Boredom is. I have been sitting in Enshrouded's main menu for a while now.

[quasi saffron]

We could flip a coin.

[snow plaza]

Why aren’t you playing then?

[quasi saffron]

Because we're interesting subjects!

[coral gust]

I enjoy playing with others more than on my own. Games just feel more fulfilling like that to me.

I, unfortunately, don't have anyone to play it with. It's why I joined this Discord server and put up a LFG so quickly. I want to play but don't feel much joy when I play alone and talk with the ones I'm playing with (Preferably on a VC).

[quasi saffron]

My day needs more hours. So I could join you. Sadly... I'm bound for the next 6 hours at work and after that from my other friends.
(They shine golden in the right light)

[coral gust]

I wish you luck.

[ionic hemlock]

What if I told you I have such a device that could maybe increase the hours in the day.

[quasi saffron]

But If you use said device, will we ever have a night again?

[ionic hemlock]

Probably not. I tested the device in the arctic.....It's always day there.

[silent acorn]

When's the spring sale starting ? It's march 14 for me but enshourded isn't on discount 😦

[quasi saffron]

My bet is at 11/12, Keen has not started working yet. Normally CUB hits here at approx 10 AM.

So... Within 2 hours I guess. Or they want to advertise it in the feed. Then it would take longer.

[subtle prawn]

Doesn't the sale normally starts around 6pm cet on steam?

[ionic hemlock]

I'm pretty sure steam is automated. I'm pretty sure they just setup a time and it goes on sale at that point.

[quasi saffron]

Not rly sure. But If they wanna monitor If it's going correctly it should fall into their work hours I guess. I mean, those things happen all the time.

[subtle prawn]

Steam sales are iirc still automated

[quasi saffron]

I think CUB will tell us soon.

I need to buy 5 more copies. So I can bait him.

[snow plaza]

Understandable
I also enjoy the company of other people

Enshrouded is fun to play solo too imo

[coral gust]

I'm sorry, what the fk? You need to W H A T ?

[coral gust]

I tried, worked for a bit. Couldn't care less after I tried.

[snow plaza]

You should annoy your friends and tell them to buy the game
Someone might be down

[coral gust]

I'd rather not pester people to.

[snow plaza]

Okay

[hard thunder]

hey all new to the game just started playing yesterday.

[tepid vale]

welcome to the cult

i mean club

[hard thunder]

thanks like it so far. i was playing nightingale and figured id try this game

[quasi saffron]

Our leader is named CUB,
so this means we're forced into his club?

[hard thunder]

lol good point

[subtle prawn]

Cult of the insane?

[quasi saffron]

CUB, the local CM of this Discord, tended to promote Enshrouded with "Buy this game - and also 5 copies for your family, friends and pets! " and I stay with the meme.

[hard thunder]

i will say its does have some good features compared to nightingale. one thing id like to see the trees fall like a normal tree instead of sinking to the ground

[quasi saffron]

Sadly I think we won't see funny Valheim-like deaths by trees in this game.

[copper apex]

probably soon 🤷🏻‍♂️

[hard thunder]

yea its only a small feature. i do like the build aspect of it where you can put a block into another and it fixes mistakes. thats a nice thing to have

[subtle prawn]

"Small" programming it might be extremely hard

[quasi saffron]

Now that I think of it, I don't think it'll happen ever.
We don't have, besides KI Enemys movable objects in Enshrouded at all.

[subtle prawn]

Us falling down but that's it

[quasi saffron]

Everything is static yet. Don't know if moving objects would eat PCs

[hard thunder]

whats kl enemys? not familiar with the term

[quasi saffron]

The Zombies trying to eat kill you

For example.

[hard thunder]

ahh ok

[subtle prawn]

AI enemies

[copper apex]

KI = AI its german

[hard thunder]

oh ok thank you

[quasi saffron]

Oh. Shoot. I slipped in german

[hard thunder]

its ok no worries

[copper apex]

happens a lot to me, especially with AI-KI lol

[hard thunder]

i do like flying like a squirrle lol

[quasi saffron]

Soon PETA will start sue us for making squirrels envy us

But no worries. I'll pay that in ingame coins.

[hard thunder]

lol i would too

how are the servers on this game are there alot of toxic people?

[copper apex]

sadly there are some players that visit worlds just to destroy everything and try to kill the players with nearby explosions - we dont have proper servertools yet beside password protected servers, to fight those griefers

[hard thunder]

thats sad i made my own hosted world and put password protection on

i was going to join one but didnt want to deal with that

[copper apex]

its better to find a group of players to join, like here on discord, there are a lot players that want to build or just play together - randomly joining worlds doesnt work out that good, also because of the lack of any communication ingame - i tried this and got kicked pretty quick for no reason, while i was just investigating their builds peacefully

[hard thunder]

thats what i like to do is build and play. so when you go to a new world do you have to make a new character?

[copper apex]

nope, you can use your character everywhere

[hard thunder]

oh nice and does your gear come with you?

[copper apex]

yep, everything you have in your backpack & equipped (everything on your character) comes with you - just not what you placed in a world in chests, that will stay there

[hard thunder]

oh ok thats cool i like that

you cool if i add you on discord? youve helped alot

[tepid flax]

In the road map under the title 'Vanity' what do you think that means? Customising the way your character looks maybe... that would be cool

[hard thunder]

i would think so

im already liking this better than nightingale.

[copper apex]

just ask me whenever needed thats np, i'm not that social with adding tho haha

[hard thunder]

sounds good

[copper apex]

the building system is really great, i love the sculpturing with terrain material - didnt played Nightingale yet(its not my artstyle), heard the building system is a bit annoying?

[hard thunder]

for nightingale its more realistic. you have to have certain materials to build and a bit grinding. to travel to different reals you have to build portals and alot of load screens. you basically run the same pattern. the weapons and building are cool at times.

[copper apex]

ah ok 👌🏻

[crystal torrent]

I think it means armour stands and weapon displays, something many have asked for.

[hard thunder]

alot of gathering and to get the buildings you have to go to the vendors. once you get there you have to have what they call essence to purchas it

[quasi saffron]

It's more about showing a Armor on your character you're actually not wearing yet.

[tepid flax]

Ah, I see, I didn't think of that. I hate pay to win, but I don't mind pay to pose.
I thought it may have been unique armour maybe?

[quasi saffron]

In other words vanity may be transmog

[crystal torrent]

Thinking about it, it could also mean we get to choose the colouring of our armour, seen some ask for that as well. Time will tell.

[hard thunder]

@copper apex i put a issue in and never got a response at all

@copper apex that was for nightingale

[signal ocean]

the Steam Sale is not dependent on individual studios to flick a switch

it generally starts when Valve get into the office, which is usually 7pm CET for us, but now with the slight discrepancy between North American daylight saving time and EU dst it'll be 6pm I think

or maybe they'll change it this time around

who knows

[trim hollow]

[snow plaza]

[jovial pasture]

marketing and sale stuff is neat

[feral nebula]

yo guys how do i clear shroud?

[quasi saffron]

Sorry CUB!
Didn't know that. But now I'm well educated to further spread misinformation!
(I will not)

[quasi saffron]

Only thing you can do is killing a root to clear Shroud. If it has no root you cannot clear it.

[trim hollow]

And roots respawn

[quasi saffron]

All our doing is pointless.

But anyway. I just do it for the juicy skill points.

[subtle prawn]

We're all doomed

[chrome oriole]

You can like

Build on top no?

Like if you terraform a hill on top

[subtle prawn]

What's exactly your question?

[topaz aurora]

Hello all, how aren’t you guys?)

[quasi saffron]

I'm not feeling well at all.

[topaz aurora]

Why? What happened bro?)

[quasi saffron]

You asked with a negative.

[elder pelican]

does anyone wanna play with me

[subtle prawn]

#1195389948069675009

[signal ocean]

You can't prevent the root from respawning

[echo ledge]

I’m assuming roots have terrain protection now? Because of that previous bug where building a flame altar on top of one caused all shroud to disappear in the world

[signal ocean]

I believe they always had, and the bug was only edge cases were bases outside the Shroud ended up encroaching on the root when upgraded iirc

as far as I am aware, Shroud areas were always no-build zones by default

[echo ledge]

Ah Vanity being a transmog system would be really nice

I really dislike the hat from the elder set

[signal ocean]

I am not fan of looking like a plague doctor

[feral nebula]

guys how can i get tar

[subtle prawn]

Plague doctor > robot

[keen elbow]

Bruh, do you have time to play?

[feral nebula]

yes why not

[subtle prawn]

[[Tar]]

[crude hill]

https://enshrouded.wiki.gg/wiki/Tar

[keen elbow]

If you just follow quest path, you open up everything eventually

[tepid flax]

Sorry, what is a transmorg system?

[subtle prawn]

Wearing cosmetic armor over the armor that gives stats

[tepid flax]

ah thanks, I would be up for that, I actually prefer some of the early armours, the elite armours can seem a bit over the top to me, just my opinion

[subtle prawn]

Transmog + invisible helmet would be really nice

[lapis vortex]

this. I want to keep my cone brimmed wizard hat without the mask please.

[quasi saffron]

I wonder If we will get a roadmap teaser today.

[signal ocean]

[quasi saffron]

Your pfp and name in here contradict each other.

[keen elbow]

Giving mixed emotions

[signal ocean]

here is another kind of teaser: a screenshot of a moment of respite during a dungeons playtest

that's my secret, your excellency: I always have conflicted emotions

[ionic hemlock]

I'm the one in the pointy hat

[quasi saffron]

I can almost see the floor! 👀

Me Phone may be damned.

[ionic hemlock]

Try duct tape....

[quasi saffron]

Won't help with the visibility.

[ionic hemlock]

Clear duct tape

[quasi saffron]

By the way. CUB adressed me by my title!

Wouldn't that make it not even harder?

[keen elbow]

Love them parents who park 2cm from ur car and then let their kid open the door with their toes or something and crash into your 🚗
My poor jag got slapped so hard

[signal ocean]

I'm the one driving a piece of junk rn so if they slam their car doors into mine, their car suffers more

[quasi saffron]

The reason why I don't like children.

[keen elbow]

I took my Sunday jag for a drive and got slapped in first 30 mins after seeing sun

[signal ocean]

what model is it

[ionic hemlock]

I'm a disgruntled vet with ptsd that gives 0 shits about someones car. Plus my daily is an old truck with 400k miles lol.

[keen elbow]

96y
Xj6 vanden plas 4.0 litres

[quasi saffron]

Murica.

[signal ocean]

my Octavia has 360k kilometers on it and was pockmarked by a hailstorm a few years ago. poor thing looks like the far side of the moon

[signal ocean]

oh those looked nice. That was before all jags started looking super bland

[ionic hemlock]

only 360k km? thats pratically brand new lol

[signal ocean]

purrs like an 18yo kitten

only it's a 24 yo kitten I guess

[ionic hemlock]

Lol my daily truck sounds like a dying raccoon. Its also got no 3rd gear. My camaro sounds like a kitten tho lol

[keen elbow]

One model after that looked okeish too, but yes... Last of it's kind

[keen elbow]

Damn hahha, got me there lol

[ionic hemlock]

replacing the transmission in my old truck is on my todo list but i got 4 other vehicles to drive so its not that high on my list.

[keen elbow]

Having lots of cars is a pain
Not sure Wich one to drive.
Then I forget Wich on has insurance on
Then all the winter summer tires pain ugh

[ionic hemlock]

I only have liability for my vehiles, except the camaro that has full coverage

[signal ocean]

boy am I glad I'm an ocean away from you and your death machines

[ionic hemlock]

lol

[ionic hemlock]

If you wanna know a real death machine, try riding in a humvee going 45 down a dirt road. I swear my ear drums were shattered and my spine shattered.

[keen elbow]

I'm in Europe .

[keen elbow]

Sounds thrilling

[signal ocean]

you're not the one playing hopscotch with your truck's gearbox

[keen elbow]

😂😂😂

[ionic hemlock]

9/10 would repeat.

@keen elbow btw the seats are basically steel/plastic with like 2mm of padding.... so yeah. Ultimate offroad vehicle they'll go ANYWHERE but theyre not built for comfort

[keen elbow]

This reminds me the time I went to parachute first time
I so wanted to see outside from windows,but I was too far from it. Then I noticed big ass rusty hole on the side and managed to look outside. So peaceful

[ionic hemlock]

lol

[keen elbow]

We were driving some nasty trucks in Carpathian mountains.
It was all but comfortable lol

[radiant furnace]

Music Instruments are great. Perhaps a playing Bard can offer these (and can be placed)

[copper apex]

imagine it has midi support 🤩 that would be great

[mossy meteor]

That would be great! 😍

People could give concerts in the game

[snow plaza]

Gimme an Ocarina!

Ballad of the windfish

[quasi saffron]

Y-you are fishy. Theres no fish.

[snow plaza]

Rude Van

[copper apex]

this game has some potential to a degree i cant even imagine tbh - really excited whats coming, and i already like the studio for their listening & communication, also their humor 🤪

[subtle prawn]

But..but there's no combat on the roadmap.... the game is going to die

[copper apex]

there will be enough once the whole map is opened, i'm pretty sure about that

[subtle prawn]

Was just making fun of those crying for combat

[copper apex]

i know 🤪

[gloomy nymph]

I love a good intense combat game that gets the juices pumping but I also love a relaxed game whenI don’t feel like stressing out while playing. Enshrouded is just enough to let me enjoy combat but not stress over it

[subtle prawn]

I'm terrible at reading sarcasm when I barely know a person

[copper apex]

i wasnt tryin to be sarcastic, its my honest opinion haha

[subtle prawn]

That's what confused me xD

[celest wind]

are the Hollow Halls part of the update? with new and nearly unbeatable enemy's,so hard that everyone is jelling bout? I hope so....

More than one difficulties? This months Update is hopfully that huge that everyone is happy for a while

[subtle prawn]

People are always complaining

[gloomy nymph]

So true. Doesn’t matter how good the game is

[celest wind]

its always productive criticism

[subtle prawn]

No about 50% is just whining around

[celest wind]

thats not true

[dawn flax]

Do we know when the sale starts today? excited to play the game for the first time 🙂

[celest wind]

its way more whining

[gloomy nymph]

lol

[subtle prawn]

Whenever steam decides on it

[jovial pasture]

dont forget to bring your fan to the sale

[subtle prawn]

I wanted to be generous

[celest wind]

honorable

[subtle prawn]

Doubt difficulty settings would actually change much, only with bosses and if they'd increase the poison reduction on them otherwise acid bite to victory "The game is too easy"

[neon path]

I hope the npc update comes soon. Very eager to see how they'll be adding it to the game.

[celest wind]

i never used the acid bite spell, heard the rumors its way to strong. i prefer a mix of melee and fire

[subtle prawn]

Spells in general are quite strong

[celest wind]

me too, but i think you have to "rescue" them also from those tombs. Like the other ones.

[elder parrot]

I hope so cus its a fun feel to 'unlock' life to the world ^^

[cerulean rampart]

Anyone have a hint of when the sale starts? Suppose to be today, Tryna get a copy for a few of my friends.

[subtle prawn]

It's steams doing possibly in 5h

[shrewd gazelle]

What should I do now? I completed the game.

[cerulean rampart]

hobbit houses

[shrewd gazelle]

Can I join your server to help me get more creative?

I suck at building homes.

I've been playing solo.

[cerulean rampart]

dont have one was LFG but having trouble so thats why im waiting on the sale im gonna get it for a couple of my friends lol youre more than welcome tho once i get all that together

[shrewd gazelle]

Bet

You're a very generous person to gift your friends this game.

[celest wind]

join a building server, train in building

[graceful fjord]

building servers?

[rugged dragon]

Wonder if the server settings feature will include admin cheats pleaseeee

[celest wind]

or that

[cold star]

is the requirement for entering the game going to be lowered? my friends crashes everytime he joins the game

[haughty widget]

Optimizations will be getting done

[tame seal]

Optimisation will be done, i doubt the minimum specs will change though.

[quasi saffron]

The mighty Toast awakened earlier today. Praise him the bread!

[carmine scroll]

let us partake of his body

[quasi saffron]

I don't think it's edible. Have you ever eaten toast that must be over 30 years old?

[tame seal]

We do not partake of ritual sacrifice in here.

[quasi saffron]

Yea. We just praise. And eat sometimes Vukah.

[hearty pond]

elton john would disagree with you cod

[tame seal]

Is he here?

[quasi saffron]

Maybe...

[hearty pond]

https://tenor.com/view/dicaprio-maybe-gif-20413224

[quasi saffron]

Chances are high. There are alotta people here.

[tame seal]

Maybe doesn't make him relevant.

[quasi saffron]

But it also won't make him irrelevant.

[tame seal]

Keep him in the loop at least.

[quasi saffron]

More, on his toes. As CUB likes to say.

[pliant quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/life-of-brian-gif-11561512

[quasi saffron]

Only a true Messiah would send his subjects away!

[sage forge]

got simple question, when enshrouded content patch?

[keen elbow]

@quasi saffron get back to work!

[carmine scroll]

yes

[snow plaza]

I agree
I feel like his work might be related to this discord 👀

[pliant quarry]

Maybe could have been more visible, but our #news post says when 👀

[keen elbow]

I think he is lying about working at all

[snow plaza]

🤔

[keen elbow]

You do realize it involves reading and we don't do that here

[snow plaza]

It’s not even funny … it’s true

[keen elbow]

I know right...... Internal pain

[sage forge]

will the update require players to start a new world? If not will players have any disadvantage playing their old world?

[subtle prawn]

!wipes

[river tree]

About Server Wipes & Character Resets...

... On the topic of "wipes", we do not have any plans to force wipes at any time. However being early access and being that a LOT will change and be added to the game over time, we can't guarantee that there might not be a major update that requires old saves to break.

Also being that so much is changing, there is always the chance that an update might break old saves, so I recommend backing up saves you really care about if this would be something that is the end of the world for you as a player.

But yeah, we're not planning on intentionally doing this, but we also can't guarantee it will "never happen" either, since there's a lot of unknown variables in the future.

-- via @Toast
Updated: 2/6/24

REMINDER THIS IS AN EARLY ACCESS GAME.

[keen elbow]

[sage forge]

thx

[snow plaza]

Reading might be overrated nowadays

[keen elbow]

Be ready to play fresh map cuz we never know

[keen elbow]

You gotta pay me to make me read attitude

[sage forge]

haha, question was more about a specific date.

[snow plaza]

Declined

[keen elbow]

Keen isn't specific with dates for their own sake

[keen elbow]

Unbelievable

[pliant quarry]

No to both, the way our worlds work anything outside the flame altar will automatically regenerate/update, and that includes if there's a content update that changes the world in some way.

The only theoretical problem is if you managed to place an altar where new content will be, but at least for the next update I highly doubt that will happen to anybody in a way that's problematic.

[tame seal]

Can you tell us anything about the content update, will there be new areas or more along the lines of cosmetic/current zone quests/improvements?

[subtle prawn]

Dungeons

[ionic hemlock]

I can tell you for a fact it's atleast 1mb.

[tame seal]

Lies.

[snow plaza]

🫂

[tame seal]

I don't trust it! 😄

[subtle prawn]

You don't trust keens teasing?

[tame seal]

You mean, CUB? No 😛

Correction, i trust the teasing... do i trust it's leading us in the right direction? no 😛

[subtle prawn]

Actually Toast

[keen elbow]

I need some time to get over it now tho

[jovial pasture]

i wonder how long they been cooking the mountan biome

[tame seal]

#the-tavern message This not the tease you're referring to?

[upper galleon]

new area confirmed 🙂

"
The only theoretical problem is if you managed to place an altar where new content will be, but at least for the next update I highly doubt that will happen " ...;)

[subtle prawn]

Not mainly but that's another of the teases I'm referring to #news specifically the one about the update

[quasi saffron]

I've become a conspiracy!

[subtle prawn]

I'd assume it refers to the dungeons

[upper galleon]

of course.. could be dungeon as well 🙂

[subtle prawn]

It's about the most teased thing on the roadmap

[jovial pasture]

im going to assume the dungeon and a mountan biomes coming along with several other things

[tame seal]

Yea i can see where you're getting the idea of potential dungeons, they have hinted at it.

[upper galleon]

Probably not all in the same update thought

[subtle prawn]

Mountain might also come later who knows

[tame seal]

But also Toast linked the 'Instanced Dungeons' picture from the roadmap as a teaser and that's in the 'later this year' section.

[subtle prawn]

Heavily hinting and they're actually testing them

[upper galleon]

They are doing a bit to well to change core systems but I much rather have endgame gear farm not be looting the same golden chest over and over again.. so I hope the dungeons will be tied to getting new endgame gear

[jovial pasture]

thain again there is alot o castles and stuff that are unpopulated

[tame seal]

It's not really end game farming at the moment though, is it? 😄

[snow plaza]

You’ll be alright
Base building will help you move forward

[upper galleon]

the end game is building 🙂

[keen elbow]

I left my old base and started something new

[subtle prawn]

Fashion is the true endgame

[tame seal]

I have 2 'bases' and a 3rd one started but unlikely to finish 😄

[sage forge]

thats exactly the way i hoped for it would work

[upper galleon]

I actually think Enshrouded could have stolen how gear progression works from Action RPGs.. they are close enough already, there is so little of the gear you craft and so much other stuff to craft that they could have gone all in, making it like Diablo and similar titles, where mobs drop gear and higher level mobs have a chance of rare or even legendary gear with some random affixes to have an incentive to keep grinding a bit for good rolls. The dungeons would tie nicely in to this with for example boss at the end with high chance of dropping legendary gear

[snow plaza]

Oooh? I wanna see sometime

[jade pivot]

It is a confusing mix of craft/drop atm, but progression is irrelevant with current chest system and enemy AI

[upper galleon]

stealing the gear progression systems from action rpgs would solve that issue

[jade pivot]

Possibly the worst balanced ARPG I've played in a while, but the skills are interesting enough to keep me engaged

And the easy AI makes any build good

[upper galleon]

It would also solve the issue that a lot of reviews have complained about that it is kind of lacklustre that higher level mobs don t drop better loot. If gear was dropped by mobs with higher level mobs dropping better gear it would feel more rewarding to farm in high level areas

..I think the main problem here is that the general feeling of the game, the worldbuilding and especially the possibilities in terms of player creations are so superb that they are doing very well regardless of the problems with the core progression system that they might not change it regardless.. ..becasue they might fear breaking something that works

[elder parrot]

I dont think combat is a focus on the roadmap unfortunately

[jade pivot]

Yeah, looting the same ragged cloth for more work just made me skip combat for 90% of the game

[elder parrot]

So might not be til 2025 before that aspect improves

[jade pivot]

Ended up 100% quest and lore completion by lv16

There's zero purpose to kill anything except the designated bosses, which can be convenient if you want pseudopacifist runs

[elder parrot]

Yeah kinda sucks when other systems in the game are great

[upper galleon]

..and you can level up to max just fine by mining ore .. 🙂

[elder parrot]

I had really hoped that improved combat experience would be a focus

[jade pivot]

This is half of my XP

[elder parrot]

In terms of loot, difficulty etc

Hell even more in depth character progression in terms of abilities

Lack of spells is MY biggest peeve

I want more than small fire bolts the ENTIRE game

But hey. At least they will focus on potted plants

[subtle prawn]

We have 1/3 of the whole map....

[jade pivot]

I do enjoy the potted plants

[quasi saffron]

That's an exaggeration.

[upper galleon]

If we are not talking progression but combat, then how bad it is to fight with swords and other close combat weapons compared to magic is lategame is one of my major complaints

Sword and shield combo is pretty much a no go against some mobs

[elder parrot]

Who gave feedback for the roadmap anyway?!

[barren lantern]

No it's not?

[jade pivot]

Melee is better early game; mage is awful early game, but only if we consider linear progression paths

[barren lantern]

Personally I exclusively used 1H and shield for the whole game without issue

[upper galleon]

they had a system with an online board to post suggestions, its temporarily closed now.. and then it was possible to vote on those sugestions

[neon path]

The grappling hook being able to pull the flying chicken or skirt wearing ghosts would be a nice addition.

[jade pivot]

Banshee and sicklescythe

[barren lantern]

Sicklescythe is actually easiest to beat with melee

[upper galleon]

comparatively.. I mean you can finish the game using it.. but it is just super weak compared to magic

[real marlin]

I don’t think backpedaling with a wand has ever or will ever be awful.

[barren lantern]

His attacks all miss you when you face him

[subtle prawn]

If we ignore acid bite?

[jade pivot]

Wand is fine; it is on par with melee imho

[final gust]

I love my Melle build gotta dodge and parry a bit but it's super engaging

[quasi saffron]

With a new biome, of course, comes new progress. The current talent tree is also anything but complete from my understanding. How do you get the idea that - once 1/3 of the map is available that we won't make any further progress or levels? In addition, the enemies only start to become difficult from level 25-30. If the opponents were equal to Darksouls earlier (which is not the goal), many players would lose motivation from this point onwards. Spell variation is already present, even if lightning/miasma magic is still missing.

[earnest oriole]

When do the sales start up for steam? Enshrouded is still regular retail

[final gust]

It is ez to find a nice spot and cheese it up with magic or ranged but you can do that on dark souls as well

[barren lantern]

I just meant the # of attacks that will miss you when you are standing right in front of him makes melee very easy for that boss

[quasi saffron]

Between 6-9 PM CET

[upper galleon]

Actually I think opponents are hardest up to like lv 12 and then just gets easier... the hardest they ever hit is when you are lvl 2 or 3 and have not gotten your first real armour yet

[jade pivot]

If the existing progression is unsatisfying, I have difficulty expecting new content to have better progression

[real marlin]

Only if they play along and get low enough? If they park in high orbit not much you can do

[subtle prawn]

You can always stay in it and cast magic

[quasi saffron]

I find it regulary funny, that everyone complains that you're forced to play a boss a certain way (not melee) which means it makes things harder or shakes them up and then complain that said bosses even shake things up.

[final gust]

I mean they could introduce a hard mode and make everything have more health and dmg. But it won't stop players from getting up on a rock and spamming abilities

[still igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-al-uhf-al-capone-vault-roadmaps-gif-14043187685213451461

Epic embed fail

[quasi saffron]

World settings will come.

[final gust]

I melee all bosses just gotta dodge the puke from that one guy

[jade pivot]

I have cleared the game as beast master; wild animals killed most bosses for me

[real marlin]

We don’t know the scope yet. For all we know the current content is what world equate to a newbie area

[barren lantern]

He's never gone up in the air for me, just the banshees. Sickle always just stays on the ground and throws his daggers 3x whenever i fight him, then does the skull + teleport

[subtle prawn]

Hard mode: only archer and enemies deal 4x damage and hit you even if you're above them XD

[real marlin]

I have not had that experience.

[jade pivot]

What stops a player from farming chests in endgame area for new content?

[real marlin]

There are plenty of answers there, mob hook attacks, teleports, anti projectile bubbles, so on.

[final gust]

They can definitely go the dark souls route and add major boss encounters that have mechanics

[barren lantern]

Like... 2 flame levels?

[final gust]

I mean normal areas and mobbs do ok damage the birds one shot my mage buddies

[subtle prawn]

The wyvern already does have mechanics just doesn't hit hard enough most of the time

[real marlin]

Nothing? Other than it’s sinfully boring and pointless I suppose. My point was though that there may well an entire catalog of enemy abilities we haven’t seen that force you to play differently

[final gust]

But I just gotta say. The building mechanics in this are superb best I've seem no doubt

[real marlin]

It’s literally the first boss though. Maybe

[jade pivot]

I don't know what that means for progression in terms of speculative content

[subtle prawn]

If the following bosses get harder it's good for the game

[final gust]

The did say instanced dungeon crawls.

[real marlin]

Indeed, I can’t imagine they won’t

[subtle prawn]

I mean people already struggle with the wyvern

[final gust]

Should have more challenging content. I can see them going the way the old dragon age game

[upper galleon]

why are all the "normal members" of the server called video stars?

[quasi saffron]

1. You don't strike me as someone who would accept any argument, no matter how much it is explained to you.
2. Still. We are in an early access game here. Everything is still changeable. Why should anything be set in stone by now?
3. As I said, we have now had high pastures - forests - wastelands and finally desert. We don't know how much more there is to come, but for 3/8 of the map that's already 4 biomes. Maybe there's a lot more to come?
4. When you bought the game in Early Access, you 1. gave yourself the opportunity to give feedback (press F1 in the game), 2. Is the game everything but complete, finished or balanced down to the last detail.
5. World Settings (Which could cramp up the difficulty) are literally a point on the road map.

[jade pivot]

I agree with your points, but I am judging the game based on what exists currently

I cannot judge what may or may not exist yet

[quasi saffron]

Only time will tell.

Let them cook and we'll see what comes out of the pot.

[jade pivot]

I have high hopes, just minor criticisms from an ARPG perspective

[real marlin]

Judging an ea game is a little tricky ain’t it?

[quasi saffron]

If the finished product will be a walk in the ballpark, I'll sell the torches.

[subtle prawn]

Don't think combat is one of there important things to improve rn

[quasi saffron]

But if they give me the option to increase the difficulty, I'm fine.

[jade pivot]

Tbh I want more shroud content; there's entire 2/3 of underground highlands and Kindlewastes that seem like there could be more content, rewards, dungeons, etc

[upper galleon]

well.. it is early access.. no fault in saying not only the things you think are great in the game.. like the building systems, world building, terrain modifications and such.. but also point out the things you think they should improve.. like for me, progression.. saying that the game is in early access and all content is not out yet is a given.. but that does not make pointing out the progression as a weak spot not a valid point to make.. It is very much a valid point especially since it was not something specifically focused on in the roadmap and more content might not automatically solve that

[subtle prawn]

Hollow hall dungeons might be in the shroud

[quasi saffron]

It's not mentioned because, it's for sure something they'll work on. Our CM's already stated they left out the obvious things.

[upper galleon]

I mean being able to discuss stuff you wish for a game.. and stuff you wish are improved upon are one of the great things with early access titles.. because it might actually come true as opposed to a finished game where no more content or changes are planned

[jade pivot]

Definitely something I'll keep an eye on

Gives me subnautica vibes while diving that deep, but leviathans never came

[ocean anvil]

Morning everyone!

[subtle prawn]

We might also see difficulty options for instanced dungeons, would at least be a nice to speak to everyone

[real marlin]

I’d 100% rather have natural difficulty over artificial. Also want it or not the “action” part of the game is just as important as the homesteader part. And it isn’t where it could be

[upper galleon]

or it is not mentioned because it is not a focus at the moment.. unless you got inside information, then you don't know if it is left out because it is so obvious or if it is left out because that is not the focus of the dev team right now.. you got inside information?

[tame seal]

One thing to keep in mind... difficulty is still subjective.

[real marlin]

Yes and no

[jade pivot]

I prefer density sliders over hp/DMG sliders especially with coop content; it is absurd to raid a 4 mob camp with 16 players

[tame seal]

Explain.

[real marlin]

Absurd or… hilarious!?

[jade pivot]

It is pretty funny sometimes to see half the team disappear to a matron

[keen elbow]

Was driving my kid to dancing.
I can show some bits soon, if I figure out taking photos from distance lol

[real marlin]

The granularity is subjective. It is an objective fact, from any relevant measure anyway, that Dark Souls is more difficult than Animal Crossing. That Dark Souls is less difficult to some doesn’t mean it isn’t a more difficult game. So, the point that one persons “difficult” is another’s “casual” is a bit of a nonstarter in this context. In the context of Enshrouded specifically you don’t have to worry about that granularity given its free form RPG nature. If a fight is too hard you are free to go farm better gear, consumables or levels until you can beat the math. So the subjectivity of the thing is way less relevant also.

[quasi saffron]

1. Polishing is one of their points.
2. #the-tavern message, #enshrouded-chat message, #enshrouded-chat message
   I think most points here are very clear, that it depends on player feedback.
3. If they improve the fighting in general? Let's see. They're vague with their promises on "Fixes and Polishing". Because, as everything, it also depends on feedback. If no one tells the devs (Via F1) then it could be oversighted.

[tame seal]

Less relevant to who?

[jovial pasture]

you can pickaxe your way out of most scenarios

[jade pivot]

I interpret it as basic RPG formula is stronk = gear + xp/skills, which are both easily "farmable" in enshrouded

[quasi saffron]

Also, the game is definitely not a new Darksouls, it will be somewhere between a walk through the ballpark and Darksouls.

[real marlin]

To what, the games design philosophy. Keen can make the game as hard as they like because you always have the option to beat the math instead of the mechanics

[real marlin]

Hope that changes too, on my third character I went from 21 to 25 mining flint>.>

[signal ocean]

why would you do that to yourself

[snow plaza]

Oh oh a fellow dancer
Sounds good!

[tame seal]

Basing it on everyone inherently makes it subjective, no?

[jade pivot]

Arrows in my ranger lead to over leveling while farming for mats

[real marlin]

Sorry, did an edit. Doing too many things at once and I’m a little dumb

[real marlin]

lol, those sweet sweet building blocks

[thorny fossil]

Difficulty is subjective, actually. As someone who has beaten Dark Souls, I don’t think I could play Animal Crossing. I haven’t played it, but I have tried to play Stardew Valley, and it felt like such a chore. I can’t imagine Animal Crossing feeling any less tedious to play. So, for me, Animal Crossing is a more difficult game to play than Dark Souls.

[trim marten]

any date for the next patch?

[signal ocean]

was that pre or post fletching balance changes?

[tame seal]

You are stringing more words together in a reasonable fashion than a lot that come through, i'd hardly call that dumb 😛

[signal ocean]

next patch is update 1

[jade pivot]

Post, but I target 100% completion of regions

[tame seal]

That i can agree on, all the time you can out gear mechanics is does make the subjectiveness of difficulty less relevant.

[keen elbow]

I have this huge sculpture at my base with what I have mixed emotions.
It's like 75m high and it's face is ugly af. I'm not sure to keep it or blow it up

[neon path]

Bet the mountain biome update going to add a bunch of juicy looking costumes to the game as well :"3

[signal ocean]

100% completion will probably have you overleveled regardless, to be fair

[real marlin]

I made sure to point out “relevant measures” your own personal feeling on how a game plays, while certainly relevant to you, isn’t relevant to what I’m talking about.

[signal ocean]

it better

[trim marten]

if you do blow it up....video it!

[jade pivot]

My first 100% on melee is lv16

[keen elbow]

Lol.
It fits there and then again it doesn't 😅

[signal ocean]

interesting, I am about lvl 21 on my mage and I'm only maybe about 85% done with quests

[upper galleon]

polishing does not equal changing how gear progression works

[trim marten]

send me the clip....I'll print it!

[jade pivot]

Mage finished ~lv23 for me but on multiplayer server

[keen elbow]

Lvl 25 with hardly half map explore so far

[tame hawk]

I pray we get more variety with armour sets

[keen elbow]

Soon my friend hahaha

[thorny fossil]

Then “difficulty” isn’t what you’re talking about. Mechanical complexity, perhaps.

[trim marten]

MUA HA HA HA HA!

[upper galleon]

Like it s fine.. the can t focus on all things at once.. but its also okej for players to voice oppinions about things they think could be done better..

[tame hawk]

Yes, more mechanics!

[keen elbow]

Maybe there r explosives inside already!
The true trojan lmao

[trim marten]

yes, any ..... any explosions of builds, or anything else....I'll put on the cover of Shroud Magazine....send me the clips!

[trim marten]

"it has always been easier to destroy, than to create doctor..." - Captain Spock

[signal ocean]

this is why I'm so happy not to be involved with progression in this game, lmao

good luck balancing against "a typical player experience"

[real marlin]

Mechanical complexity is directly involved in difficulty. In what way would separating those be a benefit?

[tame seal]

There's a typical player experience in this game? 😄

[signal ocean]

you double click the icon, and then all hell breaks loose

[sudden drum]

In which parallel universe was Spock captain?

[keen elbow]

I'm not sad tho.
Can walk through the shroud like it's my backyard

[tame seal]

Ah! The best kind of experience.

[jade pivot]

Green scavenger

[trim marten]

the original one, the new one....

[hearty pond]

spock was a captain

[neon path]

Spock was a menace.

[hearty pond]

raven, you need to watch it again

[thorny fossil]

Mechanical complexity is one factor in difficulty, yes, but they are not one and the same. Games can be difficult without being mechanically complex.

[trim marten]

Spock, Kirk and McCoy were all talking about Khan and planetary armageddon in Star Trek II

or was I in another 'version' of this reality again.....seems to happen more and more often

[hearty pond]

well difficulty can br broken down in to few categories, first being mechanically and the second the fundimental understanding of the game or the genre of game you are playing in

[sudden drum]

Oh damn, you are right, he got promoted before sacrificing.

[quiet geyser]

What will a mountain biome be? We already have mountains right the whole map consist out of mountains.

[hearty pond]

if someone has never played a game like enshrouded before and jumped in to it, everything will be difficult, because the fundamental understanding of the game is not there for that invididual

[trim marten]

"Jim, I have no ego to bruise, the ship is yours"

[hearty pond]

if someone played fps or rts games there entire lives and then jumped in to enshrouded, it will be far more difficult for that person vs someone who has played a similar game like this

[jade pivot]

An fps player with a bow would be deadly in enshrouded

[hearty pond]

ha ha

[thorny fossil]

I imagine something like Winterhold in Skyrim: lots of snow, high and steep cliffs, winding narrow paths, probably a good amount of caves

[hearty pond]

the mountain biome will consist of the mountain from game of thrones

[quiet geyser]

They will be snow biome?

[hearty pond]

john snow will not feature

[real marlin]

I’m not JUST speaking on one aspect of the concept of difficulty strictly from the perspective of game design. At least the design of a game like Enshrouded. Again, my original response to the statement that difficulty is subjective was “yes and no”.

[tame seal]

Yes and no, Enshrouded's bow handling isn't to the standard of any 'proper' FPS game, so even starting they'd still have to adapt.

[real marlin]

Good news, there already is!

[quiet geyser]

There isnt its early access.

Its merely visible and you can partly walk in it.

[real marlin]

There is, it even has a mechanic

[jade pivot]

But will there be dragons? 👀

[quiet geyser]

But its not a full biome you can engage with thats nonsense haha

It can be a biome that will be implemented but my question was whether the mountain biome will be that snow biome.

And more so towards a mod/staff to answer tbh to make it more credible no offense

[real marlin]

So, a biome needs creatures and resources?

[hearty pond]

you have to imagine the snow when it gets cold, you have to roleplay the snow due to budget cuts

[thorny fossil]

Key word of my response being I imagine. I’m just a guy. I offer no insight. But mountains usually have snow.

[hearty pond]

not all mountain have snow though

[jade pivot]

Mountains are currently made of dirt

[hearty pond]

depends on country, hight etc

[real marlin]

Olympus Mons would like a sit down with you.

[hearty pond]

higher altitude of mountains usually have snow due to science

[thorny fossil]

usually

[hearty pond]

exactly

not always

[thorny fossil]

Olympus Mons has bigger problems

[real marlin]

I’m not sure how many mountains the solar system has but I wouldn’t be surprised if snow capped mountains were uncommon or rare

[jade pivot]

If there is a drought/lack of water, will there still be snow?

[hearty pond]

rofl what

[real marlin]

Depends on the dragon population

[hearty pond]

if everyone was blind and could not feel body temperature, does it still snow for them

[real marlin]

It isn’t falling “for you” if you can so I guess it does?

[sudden drum]

Snow and rain feels different on the skin (not talking about temperature)

[hearty pond]

you lair raven! reported for questioning me!

how dare you!

[sudden drum]

Joke's on you, I don't question you, I correct you harshly

[real marlin]

Obviously we are dealing with a skinless person in this scenario

[hearty pond]

too far man, too far

skinless person rofl

the walking dead!

[ionic hemlock]

The walking dead have skin....

[hearty pond]

they can't feel anything

[real marlin]

The walking unskinned sir

[hearty pond]

you know, on the count of being dead

[sudden drum]

They feel hunger, don't they?
Never asked one tho

[hearty pond]

they feel hunger due to the only function remaining in a zombie

[sudden drum]

Ah you mean like your heart is still beating even if your brain is dead, I see

[real marlin]

That’s a deadist comment sir, some of them have skin and some don’t.

[hearty pond]

well the heart can beat without the brain

[sudden drum]

That's what I mean

[hearty pond]

if you loose the brain, the heart is useless for the host

[real marlin]

Isn’t the brain the host

[sudden drum]

Damn man...so that's a huge amount of useless hearts in the world

[hearty pond]

well the body and the brain is the host, they go hand in hand, since they need each other

[real marlin]

Only presently

[hearty pond]

the brain is way too complex for a switch

[sudden drum]

Well but you can replace the heart, but you can't replace the brain (oh misunderstood you)

[hearty pond]

yep

[real marlin]

Only presently

[hearty pond]

there was a mad scientist who transferred a human brain to a monkey, apparently it lived for a few mins

or vice versa, i don;'t fully remember

[wise grail]

You forgor 💀

[hearty pond]

well sure dark, but will we see that in our life time, i guess we will see

we have limitations for a reason

[wise grail]

Now we're implanting computer brains into monkeys and they're living for much longer

[hearty pond]

although that did not stop a sheep clone

it seems pigs is the key for a lot of new procedures

[wise grail]

Limits on what? Needless suffering?

[hearty pond]

we are the product of our own demise

[real marlin]

The way technology and understanding advances means the possible outcomes are endless. We might have that whole age death thing licked in 20 years. We might be downloading ourselves in the next 40. We could also be invaded by giant pink space elephant commies any day now.

[ionic hemlock]

That's deep.

[hearty pond]

at what point are we playing god

[real marlin]

At no point?

[ionic hemlock]

Once we make an island full of dinosaurs

[hearty pond]

lol gorb

[wise grail]

Some people already are, just not us.

[hearty pond]

tech we have dinosaurs

[wise grail]

Depends on what your definition of 'God' is. Have you heard of the ideology called Ignosticism?

[real marlin]

Everything is ours to achieve

[carmine scroll]

did someone say dinosaurs?!

[sudden drum]

I think vice versa happens more often

[ionic hemlock]

God is fake. Science is fake. The Earth is fake. Everything is fake. We're living in a computer simulation.

[hearty pond]

no, he said dino sauce

[timid nebula]

Hi I just read the roadmap, does that mean we wont have new weapons and skills or maybe we don't have everythings announced yet ? 😮

[hearty pond]

new volcano hot sauce

[wise grail]

We power someone's brake lights

[ionic hemlock]

Yes.

[hearty pond]

sai, you mean the idea of questioning god's existence

[real marlin]

Does it?

[real marlin]

No telling

[wise grail]

No, it's about questioning the definition of the word 'God'

[hearty pond]

i mean in simple term, a higher being

[real marlin]

But there will probably be new stuff like that yes

[wise grail]

With that logic, we can take a monkey and give it the best life possible

[timid nebula]

ho okay thx ^^

[wise grail]

A monkey heaven

[real marlin]

What if the notion is applicable regardless of the definition?

[wise grail]

We can also make its life as miserable as possible

A monkey hell

We talk about things monkeys cannot comprehend

[wise grail]

So by that definition, we are Gods to monkeys

[real marlin]

I’ve seen monkey hell. I’ve seen it

[hearty pond]

turning a monkey in to a higher being is not the same as a god being a higher being, not sure you can compare those 2

[wise grail]

I meant that we are already Gods in the eyes of monkeys.

[hearty pond]

let me know when a monkey creates all life

[wise grail]

You misunderstood what I said, I never called monkey a god

[dire kraken]

Mum said it's my turn now to complain that combat hasn't been mentioned on the roadmap

[real marlin]

Keep fighting the good fight!

[hearty pond]

we are not gods in a monkey's eyes, we are higher beings that can do more, sure, but i would not say god

[supple valve]

Why would combat be on the roadmap?

[hearty pond]

go do a servey on monkies and see if they see us as gods

[dire kraken]

I have no idea

[wise grail]

But that's what Ignosticism is about. How much higher does one has to be in order to be considered God?

[real marlin]

It is comparative, but also sort of irrelevant

[frail raptor]

i think combat is just fine though i'd like to not inch forward when using spells

[wise grail]

It's not a religion thing, just an ideology

[real marlin]

Because it don’t work so good and is important to some portion of the player base?

[hearty pond]

human beings cannot comprehend the idea of god, way too complex for our tiny minds to understand or handle

[real marlin]

Why is that

[supple valve]

Idk, I've not had any issues with it personally

[wise grail]

Monkeys cannot comprehend the idea of a human being, way too complex for their tiny minds to understand or handle

[supple valve]

I've had people comparing the combat to Kingdom of Hearts in a good way

[real marlin]

That’s good!

[hearty pond]

simple, we are not as intellectual as we think we are

[dire kraken]

Valid points still not a reason to be on the roadmap. Fixes and adjustments usually aren't on roadmaps unless they are full blown reworks of a mechanic

[frail raptor]

it's character control based. you have ways to completely void damage or avoid it... use your skills or change your talents to better fit your play style

[wise grail]

Are Gods as intellectual as they think they are? Especially the Greek ones.

[supple valve]

This

[hearty pond]

myth are not gods

[real marlin]

Well who says a ground up rework isn’t warranted?

[dire kraken]

Is it tho?

[hearty pond]

mythology and god are totally different

[real marlin]

Who knows

[real marlin]

Are they?

[wise grail]

Your definition of God is rigid.

[supple valve]

I completely get why it's not on their main list of priorities. The combat is fine, it's simple, enjoyable and robust enough due to perks and various weapons. I wouldnt mind more weapon variety but thats less to do with combat and more so aesthetic. Like a greatsword vs just the big hammers.

[wise grail]

As in one of them actually exists and one of them does not?

[real marlin]

I disagree. I think melee combat in particular is boring as hell, sometimes doesn’t work on the back end and has no relevance past say, getting out of the first cave.

[dire kraken]

Statistics probably. Personally I don't think that a majority of the playerbase is very unhappy with the combat system sure there are some minor things that most people agree need tweaking. At the end of the day Keen Games probably has the statistics on the feedback and given that there isn't a major combat overhaul on the roadmap kinda shows that it doesn't seem to be needed.

[frail raptor]

like i'm not great at getting parries in, but can hold block all day long and dodge with the best of them. I also like long ranged fights, but know that fighting large numbers can be nasty so i invested into mostly mage talents because i love things that go BOOM and took up healer and wizard routes for passive healing and damage in my immediate area

[wise grail]

I guess melee is needed at least until you get eternal spells

For now, melee feels kinda underwhelming in the late game

I literally can't solo the boss ladies at the endgame glider spot with a melee build

[real marlin]

Doesn’t really tell an accurate story though does it. Statistics I mean

[supple valve]

What in particular is boring about it to you?

Personally I am a mixed build, if I'm fighting flying enemies I kinda have to use a bow or wand (Whatever's really in my toolbar at the time. Usually a bow.)

But for bosses or any other form of combat, melee is straight forward. Left click, block. Profit. Sometimes vault like a dark souls game for certain enemies.

[frail raptor]

with this build and a updated armor i'm able to SOLO lvl 30 areas with relative ease

[wise grail]

How about being able to use a grappling hook to combat flying enemies?

Maybe as a grappling hook upgrade