halfsword-chat-⚔

[restive barn]

i would but you can't add custom slots

[meager torrent]

Find a way to do it, and make the cod piece make you invincible and make it deal an insane amount of damage when it hits your opponent

If it's possible

[north wigeon]

I love my sword

[meager torrent]

I'll wait 10 years if I have to

[small glen]

grappling mfs be like: "WHAT?!?! you DON'T like the rng based grabbing?!?!?"

[cobalt egret]

ok so i'm not super familiar with polearms in asia but it does look like several weapons with the suffix "dao" are what i was thinking of but they seem to have a massive variety of blade shapes

[limber bison]

When are they updating the full game?

[restive barn]

dao means knife

[real void]

at some point

[cobalt egret]

oh so it's like messer!

[restive barn]

guandao means pole knife

[real void]

update... eventually!!

[lost rover]

Chinese name!!!

[rapid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/desperate-attention-tiktok-people-who-be-desperate-for-attention-sighing-gif-16370965302781532502

[restive barn]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hell-naw-low-iq-unintelligent-mNal0EQtG3jbLtZPuD

[rapid pond]

Idk

[small glen]

bad poll

[plucky gulch]

is there any way to turn down how often you cut enemies in half/dismember them?

I know that theres damage taken sliders for player and enemies but that doesnt really seem to change the dismemberment

[young snow]

update the fucking game its not funny devs

your abandoning the game

[lost rover]

Gore slider

[gray vigil]

it's been 2 months

chill out

[young snow]

and thats alot of time

[gray vigil]

I mean I guess man

[young snow]

Sheathrfrdtroyer

[rotund palm]

This is why we need a crosshair

This is also why when our character goes to grab, the hand shouldnt grab prematurely until it has found the place we aimed to grab

But the devs will never listen

[young snow]

thats why we need an update "spod"

[rotund palm]

Whats wrong with my name

[young snow]

it remineds me of

poop

heh

[rotund palm]

😢

Dude

[young snow]

im sorry

[rotund palm]

thats rude

You should be sorry

My day is ruined now

[young snow]

i meant it sounds like gold and flowers

[rotund palm]

🥹

[young snow]

but the devil got ahold of my keyboard

but he didnt get ahold of it when i said to the devs to update the fucking game

[rotund palm]

Wait for medieval fest

If they dont update the game in medieval fest theres something seriously wrong with development

[young snow]

wwauit wheres that

[rotund palm]

Idk

But ig its happening soon

[young snow]

where are they holding this medieval fest i have a sword i want to use

[rotund palm]

I wouldnt know

I only play cuz i like swinging

[young snow]

i like swinging my sword

[plucky gulch]

ohh thats what that does??

bro thats so much better without gore on max wth

[livid void]

Still no update lmao thats crazy

[deep shale]

the earliest of early access

[white frost]

TED!!!

wassup

[livid void]

Im alive lol,just didnt check discord

[white frost]

anyways

[livid void]

Hopefully something

[wheat gust]

man

[shrewd idol]

Am I the only one using a 5kg sword as a sidearm

[sleek gull]

Dunno, I only use swords from 1.2kg to 1.8kg to keep it as close as possible to real life.

[lost rover]

If you wanna use it with ue4ss

Get the one that isnt manual download

It works great

[devout lion]

2 months would be fine if people even knew what was going on

unfortunately we have jackshit because these devs are the worst at communicating

[wheat gust]

charger l4d

[wheat gust]

so the one fro mvortex

[lost rover]

No no

Vortex is really bad for some games

Messes up the directory

There should be two choices for HSE

There's one thats an executable file that detects for HS on epic/steam

[wheat gust]

and the other?

[lost rover]

Manual download

Youll have to put in your files and update manually

The executable file auto updates

If detected

[wheat gust]

js for clarification this is the launcher

or executable

[lost rover]

Yeah i worded wrong

What i meant before executable file is HSE launcher

[soft osprey]

Bro I hate when my furniture has its own thoughts and opinions

[wheat gust]

so liek the launcher works with ue4ss

[lost rover]

Yes

[shrewd idol]

U can just bash with the pommel

[lost rover]

The average german greatsword (zweihander) was around 3kg how did you manage this

[shrewd idol]

You make the blade maximum mass, but you make the blade shorter so that you can still swing it 2-handed. Most of the time I half sword it, though.

[shy maple]

When update

[shrewd idol]

I got the widest possible guard and a long pommel for bashing

[shy maple]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-he-said-it-he-said-gif-5286270

[dark stratus]

Yeah, this game launched to having worse numbers than the demo conccurently after the first week; I put 200 hours into the demo and 90 into the playtest, but my 5090 can't even run the game at full settings. The menu's/sandbox is gutted so hard that the demo felt like it was worth more at release. If they dipped more resources into adding multiplayer and having the same features as the demo, this game would have succeeded based on that alone imo

[lost rover]

I think the game has DLSS

[dark stratus]

I get that, i use it all the time. I cant check if it does or not rn but it doesnt change that the best GPU cant run it native at 60fps on a 2560x1440 monitor

Not even cinematic (that frys my system, but the next step down. That alone is abysmal

IMO they did the Dead by Daylight thing. They spent 80% of time making/remaking systems/mechanics that noone asked for or went against the grain of the game, and then have to fix everything they spent their time breaking

[devout lion]

i have bad news.... i can THINK

[dark stratus]

Its a good learning experience, but damn man. My favorite game is in the pits and I don't have the motivation to put more than 10 hours because there's no playability after that. It's just so frustrating. I spent so much time in the cinematography section of discord cause I loved the game, but it just... sucks

[soft osprey]

Can you teach me

[lost rover]

Hate it when the landmark starts speaking

[sleek gull]

I'm more of a HEMA Skill tech kind of player. A weapon which is not balanced well enough to use it to its full ability simply won't do for me.

[devout lion]

doomscroll instagram reels for 24 hours to reach enlightenment

[shrewd idol]

If you make the blade short enough, it becomes usable while still being extremely heavy

[soft osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[lost rover]

I'm sorry mr moai

https://tenor.com/view/moai-hardstyle-headpone-head-banging-music-gif-26242810

[sleek gull]

I guess, but that is weird. Making a long sword, short as a 1H, and heavy as a mallet just doesn't sit well with me.

[hardy hemlock]

this dude got a lump on his head like a cartoon lol

[lost rover]

Neapolitan ice cream

Vanilla chocolate and strawberry

[shrewd idol]

For combat against the heavy armored units, it’s the next best thing to a poleaxe because you can wear it on your hip and half-sword it. I have tried maces but with the new update they swing around too wildly.

[white sundial]

who wanna 1v1 me on halfsword?

[shrewd idol]

Wrists are really weak in the ea

I wanted a sidearm I could half sword

I wish you could switch to half sword on small maces

All you can do is 2 hand them

[warped apex]

Well I've now over 2000hrs played...

Nice

[lost rover]

Botched pitchfork stab alert!!!

[white frost]

17 more minutes till medieval fest

🙏

[shy maple]

They aren’t adding multiplayer though?

[white frost]

#faq nope

[shy maple]

Dang since when

Wasn’t it “it’s physics based it’d be hard so nah we ain’t doing it”

Something along those lines

[sleek gull]

It certainly was. But they changed their mind

[shy maple]

FAQ says no to multiplayer

Steam connect or whatever it is isn’t “multiplayer” technically

You’re streaming your desktop/game to another person

So basically it’s glorified split screen over the internet

[white frost]

Probably they mean like online multiplayer

[shy maple]

With dedicated servers and whatnot, this isn’t really the same thing

[sleek gull]

Local Split Screen / Screen Sharing = Yes
Multiplayer Match Making Service = No

[shy maple]

Well with multiplayer, not split screen, they’d have desync issues

But since it’s all coming from one person I guess it eliminates that

It doesn’t have to do calculations multiple times for both players over the internet

[sleek gull]

Barely. Steam Share Play, and Parsec have their own connection issues.

Basically, multiplayer is DOA. Even with Split Screen

[shy maple]

Yeah you have to have a really good connection

I tried playing with my friend and it was frozen

[sleek gull]

For real.

Which I do. But attempting to play with someone across the sea, is terrible.

[shy maple]

Parsec just sucks anyways

I play hellish quart with it and it’s so grainy and has a massive delay

[soft osprey]

Splitscreen seems to be something they put in as an afterthought

[rotund palm]

the other person isnt playing the game, the computer who sets up the game simulates both of the characters and the other player controls the pc of the guy

[shy maple]

My friend lives like down the road and it still is ass

[shy maple]

Yeah

[sleek gull]

Same here in HQ. Too often I have to tell my friend "Wait, don't kill me, the connection locked up". Then we wait a few seonds and resume the fight. It really kills the vibe.

[shy maple]

I don’t really know how it works but it’s like streaming your stuff to them

[rotund palm]

i know the parsec struggle

[shy maple]

Like how Xbox cloud gaming works I think

Looks like poopoo

[rotund palm]

its like both people are controlling the same pc

the only difference is that one has 0 ping and the other has very high ping

[shy maple]

Bro when I try to use parsec to host the people who join see a dark screen

[rotund palm]

did you go in the settings

[shy maple]

Nah

[sleek gull]

Its like a Zoom or MS Teams screenshare. It allows you to take control of an application over a network. But also allows the person locally at the computer also control their application.

I believe this is why one person can be on KB&M, and the other is forced to use a controller.

[rotund palm]

parsec prob selected the wrong screen

[shy maple]

It might be different now I’m not sure I haven’t used it in a while. I had to reinstall windows a while back

[shy maple]

Right screen just dark

[rotund palm]

yeah

[shy maple]

I checked it from someone’s discord stream

For me it was normal but for them it was almost pitch black

[rotund palm]

i played rainworld multiplayer like this but in that game you can set binds for each player so you can play with both people using a keyboard just not the same buttons

[shy maple]

Game was still working but they couldn’t see anything

[rotund palm]

no idea

thats weird

[shrewd idol]

I hope the next update lets us craft custom plancons

[shy maple]

I didn’t have an issue with that

We could both use roller or keyboard

I prefer controller for fighting games though

For steam remote play you have to enable controller and keyboard stuff for the other guy

[sleek gull]

Same, just not Half Sword. The way motion works in Half Sword, I'd take KB&M over a controller all day every day

[shy maple]

Controller is way too fast

The sens is so damn high

[shrewd idol]

I using half controller and half mouse

[sleek gull]

Its the analog recentering that is my main issue. It forces your sword back to center which limits your control

[shrewd idol]

I have the movement keys mapped to my controller with kick, crouch, etc., and then I use the mouse to swing

[soft osprey]

I hope the next update adds a cooking simulator

And then after that a dating simulator

[white frost]

why

[sleek gull]

And pet battles

[white frost]

why

[shrewd idol]

I do want a hud with damage and stamina on screen

[soft osprey]

Because Willie is handsome tf you mean why. I don’t want those EA ugly mf’s though

[white frost]

hmmm

you have a point

[shrewd idol]

Sometimes I’m wearing my ass out by swinging my weapon and I can’t tell

And then I fucking fall over

[white frost]

oh

[hollow yarrow]

lemme get this straight

I come back after multiple months

and the game is still unplayable

great

[sleek gull]

What does "Unplayble" mean to you?

[hollow yarrow]

10 fps

with workarounds

[sleek gull]

Fair. That is pretty dang rough.

And you are on all low settings?

[hollow yarrow]

I fiddled with them a LOT

[shrewd idol]

I’ve been playing it….

[hollow yarrow]

turning one or two things up actually improves performance

[sleek gull]

Also fair. Complaint legit. No notes

[hollow yarrow]

but generally lowest settings yeah

I said my experience with the demo is worth 20 dollars and I stand by that
would be trying to refund in vain otherwise lol

it is what it is

[shy maple]

More errands from the tavern guy

[rancid wigeon]

Anybody else experience a bug where the large shield freezes your torso like the Gmod physgun if you try to drop it?

[shy maple]

I’m tired of bringing back the drunk guys head to his home

No

[white frost]

All I need is a tavern brawl mechanic tbh

[hollow yarrow]

I still have solid faith this will continue to be polished rather than remain in the state of quality:$ asked on the levels of borderline cynical cash grab

[shy maple]

Best I can do is more graphically intense bushes

[hollow yarrow]

less 100% than before but I can see it

[shy maple]

Anyone else eat the spaghetti bay leaf?

[rancid wigeon]

I eat the plate first

The spaghetti is mostly like desert

[shy maple]

Ok but how do you eat the food after with no plate

[hollow yarrow]

you know what there was a month between the last 2 updates and now its been a month and like, 1 day extra

[shy maple]

2 months

[rancid wigeon]

Wait... is that what the plates for?

[shy maple]

I think so

[rancid wigeon]

Damn

[hollow yarrow]

ah...right...

that was a community post not an update

[shy maple]

Last update was in like February

[hollow yarrow]

yeah uh

[shy maple]

Not even an april fools update

Rip

[vague mulch]

next half sword update is adding a battle pass

[rancid wigeon]

How many devs does the game have? I don't think i ever really looked

[hollow yarrow]

not a good look so far
but we'll see going forward
its only gonna like kill the studio if they abandon it for idk
a year?

[shy maple]

At least 7

[vague mulch]

I mean tbf they've jumped massively from what the tech demo was to EA, give em time

you chuck a bunch more in, it will break things, kinda the point of EA

[sleek gull]

I think the entire team consists of like 12 people. And like 6 of them are developers.

[rancid wigeon]

Gotcha

[white frost]

what about the other half

[shy maple]

Social media

[sleek gull]

Art Design, Research, Music. Stuff like that

[vague mulch]

they're the dedicated silly guys

[shy maple]

Stress relievers

[white frost]

I see..

time to enjoy my gun thats attached to a mace

[rancid wigeon]

Quick question. Is there a way to like.. factory reset my progression in the game?

[white frost]

yes

[gusty jungle]

people want to give a time but also it would be nice if we could get some info

[rancid wigeon]

How?

[white frost]

then delete the gameprogress.sav which is your save file

[rancid wigeon]

Ah ok thanks

Another thing, has anybody had their character's torso frozen like from a Gmod Physgun when they tried to drop one of those large knight shields?

[white frost]

nope

[rancid wigeon]

Hmm.

Well I lost an abyss run to that

Actually I was getting curb stopped by a couple issues

Dude somehow got hit under the armor with an axe. Once he seemingly recovered he was stuck in the fatal neck injury animations and it was very difficult to move. Then I went to unequip my shield and it was like someone used the gmod physgun to freeze my torso

[dark stratus]

They aernt?

Ah I read the rest of the way down

Well, imo, that's this games saving grace. Multi-player creates an infinite loop of fun, and it encourages people gifting copies or encouraging friends to buy their own. The entire games presence is based on wacky physics and fun/intense situations. It would be one of the top "Play with your Friends" games in days, if it launched with it.

Not that the game needed multi-player to succeed, it couldve done more than the 757 players currently playing less than three months after launch if it was less dense in variety content/story and more rich in what it already did well: Sandbox. Literally, to me who isnt a game dev, spend two years on the EXACT same demo, but impliment multiplayer. Boom, the game literally will succeed on that alone.

Then, worry about content and single player progression. To me, as a consumer, that is the correct direction for this game as it stands now, without griping about what couldve been. Abandon forest and slums, keep smaller maps, enchance the sandbox, and pivot every single resource into multi-player as possible. Ik there are other jobs within the company, but downscale the scope and focus on what people want. All in my opinion

[sleek gull]

The stance is, the team is not confident they themselves can implement a polished and clean multiplayer experience due to the the complexity of the physics calculations that would need to be performed with near 0 latency. It isn't something they have experience with. If they did this, they would need to hire people with that experience, and that would cost big bucks, and take a lot of time.

So instead, they decided to invest their time and resources in making an amazing single player experience.

[dark stratus]

If that's tldr, then attention spans are doomed imo. I'm just voicing my discomfort with the games approach and how I believe it can pivot. This is an emotional message, but its from a place as someone who loves the game.

[soft osprey]

Multiplayer is too much for them to implement, Theyve already been in talks with beamng devs about getting it to work so between the time of the original faq and now i guess they realized it wasn’t something feasible

[signal wedge]

Holy yapping

[soft osprey]

Nerd

[signal wedge]

To long didn't read

[quiet ferry]

Multiplayer hard

[dark stratus]

All fair, I understand better now honestly.

I didnt consider latency and network support

[soft osprey]

Oh yeah well

[dark stratus]

I was mostly working with the faqs from years ago and earlier dev blogs. I didnt keep up with release, I know this was a topic plenty of times

[sleek gull]

Consider this. Before EA released and we only had the Demo, it was very common for people to have 100 hours or more. That speaks volumes about the single player experience they are capable of producing.

[signal wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1443564645443960832/1494597844764721253/maximum-tension.gif

[dark stratus]

Yee it was a brand new thing, and it was damn fun

[dark stratus]

I also thought "maybe cause I have 300 hours I was bound to be dissapointed cause I already experienced most of the game" but I don't think thats true, to myself atleast. I was very excited to give 1.0 a shot and it just didn't deliver. I still prefer the demo for the sandbox alone

[signal wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-kill-you-gif-15206608520516889134

[plucky lake]

this upsets me

[quiet ferry]

Why are swords more expensive than poleaxes

[soft osprey]

This should make you happy

[dark stratus]

Less metal, more wood

[plucky lake]

ok that was kinda fire ngl 🔥

[quiet ferry]

I don’t think more wood would jack up the price to the point where it costs more than something made like 80% out of metal

[dark stratus]

Nono, I meant pole aces are more wood and less metal

[quiet ferry]

Yeah y it more expensive tho :((

[dark stratus]

But realistically swords are for precision and finesse, poleaxes are for armor breaking. One has more potential than the other down the line, by my logic

[soft osprey]

Oh Thats an easy explanation, so it’s actually because

[sleek gull]

https://tenor.com/view/fantana-approve-yes-ok-i-see-tetarahublot-gif-20384601

[quiet ferry]

Does the weapon guy just hate the player in lore

[lost rover]

No it’s because we are severely underpaid

A pfennig is 0.0060 usd

[lost rover]

Doing research again

It’s actuall 0.6-1 in gold value

But 1-5 usd in dollars

[quiet ferry]

But y less metal more expensive than more metal I don’t see correlation :((

[sleek gull]

Unless the release time is different today, I think we are SOL on an update for today

[white frost]

Wouldn't it be funny if the update released as the medieval fest is out

[sleek gull]

Most ofen it was around Noon EST. But there are a few at 1pm and 2pm. So we'll see.

[white frost]

lets see how this goes!!

[sleek gull]

fingers crossed

[deep shale]

i thought it was december

[white frost]

mcwonder is gonna go online watch

LOL

[white frost]

OH SHIT WAIT

https://giphy.com/gifs/i2cM2x89EFAVcoByYz

[soft osprey]

You said the sword is more expensive

Thats more metal not less metal

[deep shale]

👀

[white frost]

okay thats cheap enough

[robust crag]

thats fun

[deep shale]

im a fan of warband

and its expansion, napoleonic warfare

[white frost]

do you have any words of wisdom to tell me before i buy it

[robust crag]

come join KoA

😛

[plucky lake]

he did infact come online

[quiet ferry]

Oops

Wait huh

Less metal is poleaxe and that’s more expensive

[white frost]

medieval fest just hit

halfsword is on a 10% discount 😭

[rapid pond]

Its the perfect time for us to get an update right ? Right ???

[white frost]

WELL SURELY THAT SHOULD BE LIKE 20-35% RIGHT..?

im just checking #updates and #announcements rn

[rapid pond]

Pleaaaase frank j need this

My sword is kinda rotten

[gilded breach]

it is time to fiend for update

[tranquil lantern]

Ong ig

[grand tulip]

has the performance improved enough to run well at the minimum requirement

[rapid pond]

You'll run badly

But it will run

[grand tulip]

uffff

[white frost]

if not today then

definitely around the week of medieval fest

[rapid pond]

Please

[white frost]

1.0 when..

[rapid pond]

Thats in a while

[white frost]

yeah definitely

but im genuinely sure that its gonna be this week

[rapid pond]

Hopefully

[gilded breach]

ill take a 0.6.1 just gimme something

[white frost]

https://giphy.com/gifs/son-im-crine-aaFz1Arg0h5cOwAu2w

[rapid pond]

Thats hopefully 0.8

[white frost]

are they doing like whole updates? or just small updates each

[gilded breach]

https://giphy.com/gifs/tophatguy0416-aliens-dap-up-in-field-B6fhKjbyDq2mQvwm4v

[rapid pond]

I would really find it funny if the update patch just wrote "figure it out"

[white frost]

like example 1.0 to 2.0 immediately or just 1.0 to 1.10

[rapid pond]

Im guessing big update with smalls

So 1.0
1.10
1.20
1.30
2.0
Etc

[white frost]

2.0 is gonna be like somewhere in july or august

[rapid pond]

Willing to bet next year

[gilded breach]

we are at 0.6 right now

[rapid pond]

Lets wait till at least 1.5 before talking about 2.0 lol

[white frost]

possibly #work-in-progress might start being active again after post 1.0

[gilded breach]

im expecting this thing to be at EA for years

[white frost]

😭

[gilded breach]

like 3-4 years till we get to 1.0

[white frost]

GAH!!!!

[gilded breach]

which aint really that bad tbh

[limber bison]

Guys when is the full game getting updated

[white frost]

no idea

[soft osprey]

Idk at this point, but it is supposed to only be in EA for 1-1 1/2 years. Idk how likely that is though since they don’t tell anyone anything

[white frost]

but we might be close

[white frost]

mcwonder is active

👀

[gilded breach]

devs almost always underestimate how long it takes

[tough yew]

nice visor slit injury

[grand tulip]

wasnt it intended to be in ea for 6 months

[rapid pond]

6-12

[little verge]

6 -12 months minimum.

[white frost]

https://giphy.com/gifs/benjammins-who-is-this-meme-we-know-vuYQphxU1fXljPkTaH

[grand tulip]

M-m-m-mmm-minimum???

[rapid pond]

Emphaphis on minimum

[little verge]

Game development takes time.

[empty tiger]

Probably not til summer

[tough yew]

aye, Bare mettle was supposed to release Sui generis in 2014 or so, but they're still making their way through exanima and are nearly done with it.

[white frost]

how many diaries has exanima did actually

been awhile

[tough yew]

lot to say the least

[white frost]

theyve been doing it since november 2023

so its been like almost 3 years

[tough yew]

they're jam packed with information though, most of them, they tend to be very secretive about the progress they make

regarding story mode

[white frost]

story mode???

shit

[tough yew]

They do have a testing branch that has a pretty new update from like a few months ago

[white frost]

how do i get it

?

[tough yew]

might as well DM it to you, don't want this chat to stray too far off from its original purpose

[white frost]

sure gotchu

[warped apex]

surely there will be a update today

surely

[white frost]

how sure are we

[warped apex]

about tree fiddy

[white frost]

aight

[white frost]

im checking updates and announcements every few minutes 😭

[small glen]

Mcwonder, question

Will we see a snapshot or a Early branch for Half sword?

With like 2 or 1 upcoming features, so it can be community tested

Because not only would players stop complaining, it will also build hype for what the full update will have

Zomboid does this a lot

[gilded breach]

early access tommorow

[shy maple]

Nuh uh

[lost rover]

Half seord

[crimson compass]

Where was the dummy who insisted the update would come out with the medieval fest on steam lol

We are now past officially 2 months with zero progress, no bugfixes, no physics updates, no nothing

[white frost]

me and alot more people

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-monkey-meme-monkey-finger-monkey-finger-in-mouth-gif-8112093780925939056

[gilded breach]

at least update the supporter pack thing with the full ost

[warm brook]

Are there ghosts in halfsword

[analog zenith]

sorry that was me

[warm brook]

#game-footage-🎮🎥 message

[pliant crest]

another day another monkey

[tough hollow]

YES

[pliant crest]

demo is so peak

bro had some work done

[topaz epoch]

This discord is really starting to implode innit

[near grotto]

In what way

[dire zephyr]

It’s a submarine

[devout lion]

i cant believe they forgot to include the new ost in the supporter edition

like they made the supporter edition but cant even port the new music over

[devout lion]

my copium is running out

zero communication, no updates, rampant issues

fucking hell

[dire zephyr]

A trillion people could buy supporter version but the devs still won’t be allowed to leave the basement

[restive cave]

Me too me too

[halcyon iris]

man, the abyss just isn't fun to play...pretty much guranteed to lose your character if you're unlucky after dying...

...how am I alive...

[devout lion]

ea progression would've worked better if it had the same pacing as demo's ngl

the EA trailer looked really cool i thought we were working our way up with cards up to the finest riches

basically a really cool roguelike

[halcyon iris]

I got pinned down for a whole minute and was losing my character's vision and the blood effect was covering my whole screen...then I just stand up XD

[devout lion]

it's only dangerous when you're unarmored otherwise it's a boring slog

i have no idea why they changed the abyss to be this way rather than just improving what already worked

adding randomly generated bosses gives the progression stages no identity

[halcyon iris]

btw, are you supposed to not be able to put clothes on which you find in the abyss? XD

[shut gale]

what do you guys think of my looting buddy

huh

[tidal sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/timmy-south-park-gif-11776289

Bro got Timmy with him

[halcyon iris]

whatever piece of clothing I pick up, I can't put it on, or at least haven't figured out how to put it on...since I definitely know it was quite easy in the demo and the playtest...

[barren hamlet]

Even for the diehard loyalists to halfscam, at what point do you start getting concerned there is no update and virtually no meaninful comms? There is no excuse for it. They're abusing the early access program to cash in on hype for the game.

[sleek gull]

Wrong

[gloomy hedge]

The only people ive seen say the game isnt abandoned and that "updates take time" are the mods, not the developers themselves
I'm waiting for an OFFICIAL announcement to tell me that the game isnt abandoned, not some moderator in a discord making promises that dont look like they're being kept

[sleek gull]

What evidence other than your perception about communication do any of you have that this game is some cash grab, or development being abandoned?

[barren hamlet]

Ecactly. This is not what full time development looks like.

[gloomy hedge]

The state the early access was released in DESPITE being delayed by two months?

[barren hamlet]

You are really going to argue this is 'normal' output for a team over 2 months?

[sleek gull]

Y'all just sound like entitled children, coming in here every day saying the same thing with no proof.

[sleek gull]

Yes. want evidence?

[gloomy hedge]

I'd be fine with updates taking a while if there was a hint of communication from the devs

[small glen]

Oh brother, there a list of games that have been in dev by much larger studios, with much BIGGER budgets, been in dev for fucking 5+ years, and release like the game was just made yesterday

[halcyon iris]

...wtf...now I die actually...as I said the Abyss just doesn't really feel fun. You instead just always hope to just be revived or if you get the abyss, just start a new character instead

[wicked depot]

And Ill bet they communicate with their community every now and then

[sleek gull]

Valheim
Enshrouded
Fathest Frontier

Are 3 off the top of my head, that I have played while in early access for over a year. And get updates once every 3 months or so.

[barren hamlet]

Maybe you're the problem with very low expectations. Respectfully I feel like we're being fluffed. I expect an update, it'll be small.

I know game development and this is not normal for a game 2 months in early access with no updates or meaningful comms. The latest 'announcement' sounded very dismissive in tone too.

My prediction is they are barely working on the game. They've already got the money.

[halcyon iris]

one moment I was being eaten by the undead, survived, fought against more, then got bitten in my ear and almost immediately die

[devout lion]

the biggest problem with half sword devs is the devs not being competent at what they do (EA launch is a bug ridden mess), and not only that they REFUSE to give out any sort of information and communication about the update like they have something up their asses

[amber whale]

🤑

[devout lion]

the way half sword devs are acting rn are pissing me off

[sleek gull]

No, i'm a person who has been playing video games for 40 years (I'm 44) and have realistic expectations due to experience playing more games than most people have in their lifetime.

[barren hamlet]

yeah - with big updatss and Communi

[small glen]

Starfield, been in dev for around almost 10+ years. Released like shit

Cyberpunk, been in dev for around 5 years and released like dogshit

No man sky was dev for 4 years, released like shit.

Cyberpunk and No man Sky are now legendary games, these games also had twice the manpower and twice the dev experience and TWICE the budget. Keep in mind starfield got delayed like by a year.

[devout lion]

half sword devs are not showing signs of improvement via communication

[sleek gull]

Y'all just yap in here, spreading doom simply because your butt hurt because things aren't coming at a pace that you insist on.

[small glen]

This is literally their first game, goof ball

[humble iris]

oh boy

another argument about "cash grabs"

[halcyon iris]

I am a QA Tester, been part of broken pre-releases for 8 years by now, I know game dev is difficult, but listen to feedback

[gloomy hedge]

And you don't see this as an issue either?

[humble iris]

what else is new in this server!!!!!!!

[hearty aurora]

the entire halfsword development team is like 10 people

[devout lion]

yes it is their first game, doesn't mean what they're doing is right, I can excuse some miscommunication, but this is just awful

[sleek gull]

And the publisher has only released 1 other game as far as I can see as well. Both the dev and publishers are very new to this.

[small glen]

This would've been the most dogshit game ever if Game seer didn't give them a big budget to run with

the best thing they have IS game seer

[hearty aurora]

how did they "miscommunicate"? they just arent telling you exactly what you want to hear, exactly when you want to hear it

[halcyon iris]

I want this game to improve, that's all I want

[devout lion]

EA trailer brought misconceptions about pit and narrow passage being there at launch because it never clarified

[gloomy hedge]

this

[sleek gull]

Sorry, correction. This is Game Seer's 3rd game. They have released 2 others

[gloomy hedge]

there hasn't even been a small bugfix released

[devout lion]

gamescon announcement day 7 showcased the cannons but never made it to EA

[devout lion]

are you gonna make indefensible arguments any further

[humble iris]

that is still a planned feature

[devout lion]

it is miscommunication

[humble iris]

just because they showed it doesnt mean it comes out day 1 on launch

[hearty aurora]

so youre complaining that an early access game does not have all of the features of a full release during early access

[devout lion]

you want miscommunication I gave you miscommunication

[humble iris]

if you cant interpret something like that, that's on you not the devs

[devout lion]

people expected that at EA launch because it was never clarified

[humble iris]

I don't know what you are talking about when people "expected it" on launch

I never did and nobody ever said anything like that I have heard of on such

[small glen]

i love the double standard, big games can get away with telling you jackshit but not indie game with like 4 devs actually making the game outside of SFX, ost and VFX

helldivers don't tell you fucking anything, they rarely reveal fucking sneaks. The community managers share one braincell, Baskinator is deadass fucking useless

[devout lion]

when you show something to the public that says "EA" and never clarify that its coming later in release, of course you're gonna have people expect it

[devout lion]

ok you're just going off the rails i never said i liked that either

like

we should have decent standards

[gloomy hedge]

Maybe because big developers have been ignoring people for years, and people have tried to rely on indie developers to actually be IN TOUCH with their community, and care about the product they're creating.

[sleek gull]

Its a misunderstanding, not miscommunication.

"At dinner we will have salad, an entree, and a dessert"
Salad arrives
"Where the fuck is my entree and dessert?!?!?!?!?"

That is a misunderstanding, not miscommunication.

The EA Trailer is telling us what is planned for the Early Access Cycle.

[humble iris]

^^

[white frost]

https://giphy.com/gifs/metal-gear-jetstream-sam-revengeance-Du842vHOEC9Ge8aQBe

[gilded breach]

big fiending

[devout lion]

its like if the salad arrived 10 weeks after dinner

they did not communicate adequately that it was coming after launch

[small glen]

Your expecting the bugfilled ea to be fixed in a month.

They have to basically rework most mechanics because of most bugs.

Shit takes shit

You can't code a whole game in a month.

[devout lion]

no i do not

i just want communication man

like

where are you getting these impressions that im unreasonable

[hearty aurora]

and they've already clarified everything you've pointed out

[devout lion]

like??

[sleek gull]

I completely disagree. There are a handful of people claiming miscommunication. The majority understood it clearly. If most understood, the few misunderstood.

[devout lion]

that's because a lot of people don't want to bring it up because they don't care enough, and the people in this server are people who like half sword

[gilded breach]

i understand there is massive thirst for anything this week

[small glen]

@devout lion why don't you ping mcwonder instead of complaining

[devout lion]

ive been in #1465774955009540257 dawg

24/7

[small glen]

He literally right there

[devout lion]

unemployed #1

[gloomy hedge]

Again, not a developer

[devout lion]

he says he gathers feedbcak through there

[gloomy hedge]

Just an admin

[devout lion]

so I go there

is that not enough for you

[deep shale]

when patch

[devout lion]

why do you have to be so dismissive

[small glen]

????? Yeah, he a fucking community manager

[devout lion]

jesus its everything just telling us "just suck it up, its okay"

[small glen]

Outright the dumbest shit I read in this server

[humble iris]

He manages the community and expresses messages from the devs and their progress onto the community

If u want communication

[rotund palm]

whats up guys

[gloomy hedge]

I didnt see that part my bad

[humble iris]

That guy is your biggest bet

[small glen]

What do you think he does

[sleek gull]

This is part of the reason they aren't over communicating. There are frequent visitors here how misunderstand, hold them to things that weren't really promised, and twist things to sound differently than they were intended. This happened each time the Play Test or Demo had any communication updates.

Due to this, its in their best interest to only communicate when they are 100% ready to do so.

[humble iris]

All g

[devout lion]

I am perfectly fine with updates taking time if I knew what the half sword devs were remotely doing with their time

[small glen]

Just type shit

[devout lion]

they have done nothing

but post an announcement that just acknowledges criticism

[small glen]

And that's genuinely more than enough

[devout lion]

no it is not

[small glen]

They don't have to say anything

Be glad they addressed the fact of "We fucked up.'

[tranquil lantern]

Devs arent even obliged to report or communicate. Its nice but nowhere near required

[devout lion]

that doesnt give us a hint about what they're doing next besides "bug fixes and optimization and content" which is expected

[rotund palm]

would be very nice if they did but as you said yea

[small glen]

Yeah, that's like all we need to know💔

[sleek gull]

In summary to my previous. The community here bullierd the crap out of McWonder and the Devs, and now we don't get frequent mini communictions, because it was thrown in their face, and twisted maliciously.

[devout lion]

they did not even go close to "we fucked up"

[near grotto]

I mean to be fair it's easy to twist things when the communication is sometimes just a picture of a scythe

[devout lion]

my interpretation is 'we saw your criticism'

yeah and also

[rotund palm]

theyre indie btw

[devout lion]

if you constantly fuck up communication and keep getting your audience mislead, that is entirely on you lmao??? there gets to a point where its your fault if you're not specific about your details

[devout lion]

what does being indie have to do with pr

[rotund palm]

again i might be going insane but i always see it

its like

theyre trying to act like theyre triple A

[gloomy hedge]

I'm mainly frustrating with the current state of the game if nothing else. Every feature that was advertised is buggy in some way shape or form. Split screen barely works, the game still crashes just as frequently, and its hard to enjoy the game because of all of the issues. I want to enjoy the game and have hope for the development, but we havent even got any updates to the work in progress channel, which they loved to use when they were developing the demo.

[gloomy bridge]

when you post obscure photos of course its gonna get twisted

[sleek gull]

It was more so things that were said outside the Announcement and Updates channels. Just general chatter than the community was holding onto as a source of truth. When the reality is, if it isn't in those forementioned channels, it isn't an official statement. But people took it as such, and spread it all over the place as facts.

[pearl ferry]

in the past, i would say triple A actually have PR teams that are smart and know what to say but this was never fucking true lol

[devout lion]

yeah all these issues are still prevalent and players are not getting reassured about it

thats what im here to argue for

[signal wedge]

Hi fizzy

[sleek gull]

Run and hide, lol. You are too pretty for this discussion. ; )

[devout lion]

#work-in-progress should imply its official... no..?

yeah its wip

but its still official work

[near grotto]

I mean what else are you supposed to do when the community manager says something factual about the game outside of announcements

[sleek gull]

Take it with a grain of salt.

[signal wedge]

Hello crafty ratty

[restive cave]

Can we bring this back and they can post photos of the animals they're adding

[rotund palm]

i love salty foods

[near grotto]

I mean Pierre said free mode would be good soon like nearly a month and a half ago

[signal wedge]

That's nice Spod

[devout lion]

can't wait to see vague posts about a rag but this time it has horse shit on it

[rotund palm]

hi

[signal wedge]

hello

[white frost]

what animals do you think they are gonna add soon (i need your opinion)

[deep shale]

i too am frustrated with the state of the game

like when you buy the supporter pack for the OST, and the OST is the demo soundtrack with no flacs

game is a fucking scam i swear

[gilded breach]

ostrich

[gloomy bridge]

i think if a dev says something will happen like it is fact its difficult to do that

[white frost]

https://giphy.com/gifs/son-im-crine-jon-difazio-Tnzkzoqw0lKRkAsZlw

[sleek gull]

Pierre and McWonder are not Devs.

[devout lion]

they do post stuff on behalf of the devs

aka the #work-in-progress

[near grotto]

They're quite literally the messengers for the devs

[gilded breach]

turkeys in half sword when

[devout lion]

which im pretty sure requires direct approval, but im not sure

[restive cave]

Pigs

[sleek gull]

And those are the two peopole that people clung to their every word, most of which was not in official communication channels.

[near grotto]

Yeah because they're the community outreach people 😭

[rotund palm]

horse def

[white frost]

would be cool if they can shit everywhere

[sleek gull]

WIP is just stuff they are toying with. Ideas that could be scrapped at any time

[rotund palm]

they already have the model so it makes sense

[gloomy bridge]

mb i was thinking bout galaxy

[white frost]

judging by the dead horse ofc!!!

[little verge]

I do not share anything without explicit approval from the dev leads.

[deep shale]

#work-in-progress hasnt been updated in over a year

[gloomy bridge]

and usually hes the only one thats able to communicate to the community

[rotund palm]

he will be REVIVED!!!!!

[deep shale]

fix the OST

[devout lion]

so in other words, what you're showing is of your own accord?

[gloomy hedge]

yeah this sketches me out too. If the game is genuinely still being developed and you as a developer/community manager see concern amongst the community that the game has been abandoned, why would you NOT make a post about it, and instead reply to one or two people inside of a channel in a server where the message is going to get buried anyway

[rotund palm]

hello mc and sorry for my prior actions

[pearl ferry]

im pretty sure he meant without

[gloomy bridge]

ik and i think they thought we just dont need it now that its out

[sleek gull]

Yeah, my rant is about all the quotes and screenshots from halfsword-chat posted by Pierre and McWonder that people would dredge up from months prior holding onto it like it was a hard fact.

[deep shale]

fix the god damn ost

[devout lion]

ah

without

I see

[gloomy hedge]

LMAO does the OST not even work?

[devout lion]

mc can I hear something about the communication between the audience and the devs, like whats generally gonna happen in the next update

[deep shale]

i paid for flacs

where are they

fix it

[devout lion]

because people are getting impatient having nothing to work with

[sleek gull]

Because you dont need to damage control something that is only being parroted by a very small handful of people. That gives credence to their word, and it is better ignored.

[gloomy bridge]

why are mods and community managers spreading stuff that they dont know to be 100%?

[white frost]

he has nothing to say i guess 💔

[devout lion]

poor mc

[sleek gull]

That is the important question. And they learned their lesson, and now they don't do that anymore.

[devout lion]

the devs are making it so hard on this guy

[gloomy hedge]

To me it just sounds like you're sticking up for game developers that are fucking you, and you dont even care

[rotund palm]

trust me he cares

[gloomy hedge]

fair

[small glen]

Hi mcwooonder! <:

[little verge]

I unfortunately do not have a status update I can share at this time.

[gloomy hedge]

maybe i shouldnt have said that part, im just frustrated about the lack of communication

[white frost]

yeah see

even he doesnt know whats genuinely going on

[gloomy hedge]

and until communication resumes between the devs and the community i do not plan to return to the game

[devout lion]

nothing that you can share?

holy fuck

[near grotto]

I mean this could theoretically be remedied by just making an announcement addressing what is true and what is false

[deep shale]

devs couldnt even put early access flacs in the supporter edition OST so i wouldnt put it past them to be unable to develop the game in a timely manner

[sleek gull]

Nah, I'm speaking from a profressional stand point. My career is as a Technical Account Manager for a major software company. I am speaking from a place of 14 years of experience with communities and customers.

[small glen]

He said it like 5 times, i don't think he can

[gloomy hedge]

thats understandable, that's more experience than i have in anything like that

[white frost]

this has been tried like a billion times already yeah

[gloomy bridge]

communication is definitly key if your gonna be a dev so when devs dont ever say a word in their own discord it feels kinda fucked up

[devout lion]

yeah

[rare hearth]

i think hes talking about the difference between can and may

[rotund palm]

again if i was a dev id spend hours here

[near grotto]

I remember ye olden days when Frank would make announcements

[white frost]

anyways how is everyone?

[deep shale]

miserable

[devout lion]

im pretty sure mcwonder cannot share any information because of the devs

[deep shale]

got scammed

[rotund palm]

very good thank you for asking monkey mike

[devout lion]

thats just fucked

and mcwonder is a pretty chill guy too

[gloomy bridge]

now even galaxy doesnt even talk which is weird for him

[rare hearth]

can meanin he doesnt even get updated like us
may meaning that he knows but has to be silent

[white frost]

you can ping him and just start a normal conversation with him yeah 😭

[sleek gull]

McWonder I believe is an employee of Game Seer, not Half Sword Games. So he only gets to say what Game Seer whats him to say

[small glen]

Is the issue with balance a thing being looked over?

[gleaming lodge]

true

[small glen]

Mcwonder works for half sword

[rotund palm]

wdym balance

[deep shale]

they're all wretches who scammed me

[sleek gull]

YOu 100% about that? I've heard differently. I could be wrong though

[median wraith]

wait have they abandoned the game?

what am i hearing

[small glen]

He said before he was hired by them

[white frost]

im gonna have a heart attack and die 💔

[gloomy hedge]

its a topic being debated

[sleek gull]

Absolutely not

[gloomy bridge]

genuinley wtf why isnt there someone who actually fully is working for halfsword😭

[little verge]

Always. Balance is a constant pursuit.

[gloomy bridge]

to respond to the community

[rare hearth]

because its an indie team of like 12 persons

[small glen]

Here

[deep shale]

i wonder how long itll take for them to drag and drop a bunch of flac files into a folder and ship it

fucking forever apparently

[small glen]

I mean like character balance btw, sorry I should've added to that 💔

[rotund palm]

whats a flac file

[devout lion]

i think audio file

basically

[deep shale]

a high quality audio file

like if you buy music online

[rotund palm]

ohhh

the ost thing

[deep shale]

(which i did)

go and get the half sword supporter edition OST and then tell me whats missing

[little verge]

Do you mean in terms of locomotion? Like how the player character walks and balances?

[small glen]

Yeah!

[gloomy bridge]

yeah true but if devs arent willing to be active in the community whos going to be able to actually answer questions

[rare hearth]

what is actually missing

[small glen]

Because currently, falling is incredibly easy. A gust of wind makes willie fall

[deep shale]

theres no early access tracks

[north wigeon]

i love slipping on the “mud” its so goofy

[rotund palm]

i dont think there should be phantom forces that push the character upright or sideways

[deep shale]

and theres no flac files

[gleaming lodge]

the skipper is back

[deep shale]

you are basically paying for the demo's OST

[sleek gull]

Funny enough, that post doesn't really make it clear who he directly works for.

[rotund palm]

i understand that the game is EA but if they ever fix this then the gameplay will change a lot

[rare hearth]

which are they, when do those specific tracks play, how do they sound like

[small glen]

And the balance makes problems like these occur @little verge

[sleek gull]

But ultimately, it doesn't exactly matter.

[rare hearth]

did early access even add new music

[halcyon iris]

holy, almost 20 seconds XD

[deep shale]

i wont argue with the deaf

[north wigeon]

Mf slipped on a banana peel

[small glen]

Where you just are constantly stumbling, struggling to get up for almost 10 seconds

[little verge]

My sole role is to speak to the community on behalf of the Dev team. I am present for development meetings, and overall involved with the development process. I am not considered apart of the dev team merely because I do not produce content that is in the game.

[small glen]

I assume this issue is from the new physics

[devout lion]

wish you could speak more regarding how the devs are working towards things, it'd be really good to hear about it and i think players really need some reassurance

[rotund palm]

you should have a dev send you a file for you to implement into the game so you can officially be considered a dev that has worked on the game

[devout lion]

like people are actually starting to think EA is an exit scam

[gloomy bridge]

oh alr i mean if your able to answer some questions thats good personally though i still think the devs should be involved in the community

[restive cave]

Now i dont care about balancing, i feel its fine as it is. The main issue is the wrists being all fucked up

[near grotto]

MCWONDERBEAST preparing for another long day of keeping the server together with scotch tape and spare hope

[gloomy bridge]

yeah ik it feels like the devs arent even working on it anymore even the one dev who talks in this chat hasnt in a while

[little verge]

This is rebalanced every time a new animations set is added. This will continue to be tweaked and balanced until the combat and locomotion mechanics are finalized.

[halcyon iris]

would take a pint with someone anyway but can't because I have no Jägermeister ready...

[devout lion]

or at the very least the devs should let the CM speak with much more freedom regarding the game

[little verge]

I do not know what this means?

[small glen]

I think the balance is a big issue, falling is ridiculously easy, and it makes gamemodes like knockdown either ridiculously easy or ridiculously tedious

[restive cave]

I have a question, Are the animations like motion capture or are they animated manually 👀

[gleaming lodge]

it means da boss is back

[restive cave]

Any gamemode outside of knockdown i think balancing is totally fine

For some reason knockdown just turns it up alot for no reason

[gloomy bridge]

real

[devout lion]

can we remove first blood and knockdown on the brawl gamemode

[small glen]

It doesn't

It's the same around the board

[sleek gull]

I "think" the animation is like procedurally generated animation based on the values of each moving part. I could be way off, but that is how I remember it being explained to me a while ago

[little verge]

Fun fact as a birthday gift my name was added onto the crossbow model.

[rotund palm]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!

[gloomy bridge]

yeah i think its like exanimas system same way the willies walk

[halcyon iris]

quite sure they're meant to proceduarally generated as well

[rare hearth]

probably stuff like poses, how the hand grips stuff etc

[halcyon iris]

man, Exanima is fun...

[gleaming lodge]

youre the emperor

[gloomy bridge]

ik i stopped playing for a bit and i suck ass now

[halcyon iris]

I only have 20 h on the game, still suck ass XD

[little verge]

Goodmalware and GalaxyHighMarshal are often in here chatting (depends on workload). The rest of the team prefers to focus on work.

[gloomy bridge]

104

[rotund palm]

everything in the game is procedurally animated

[halcyon iris]

quite small in size, so might as well reinstall it, was obsessed with it for a whole week straight XD

[rotund palm]

apart from the 2d objects if they even exist

[little verge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-office-michael-scott-55

[gloomy bridge]

yeah ik he was working on that cool new mod

[gloomy bridge]

do you know his modding server

[rotund palm]

https://tenor.com/view/rainworld-rain-world-rainworld-watcher-watcher-moth-gif-12968733551116561871

[gloomy bridge]

like a link

[rotund palm]

example of procedural animation

[sleek gull]

There are days where I wish I could take my career, and move it into the gaming sector. But then I think about how much vodka McWonder likely pounds, and I don't think my liver can take it at my age.

[white frost]

@little verge if you were transported in the world of halfsword would you live in it

[little verge]

Manually created.

[small glen]

I have a feeling wrist will be smthing fixed later on, due to it likely being tied to how strength works meaning it'll likely take awhile to fix.

I do need to vent, the strength system is utterly garbage.

Why cant my willie hold a 5kg sword?? Nor a 3kg one??? And struggles to not break his wrist with a 1kg sword??

[gloomy bridge]

if he was transported there he wouldnt have an option

[devout lion]

the best part is that you can start now and keep on tinkering till you develop an actual skillset

[little verge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dahliabunni-like-a-boss

[devout lion]

trust me

[gleaming lodge]

when is halfsword studios releasing the homelander simulator game trailer?

[devout lion]

it will be hell for the first few years but as you experiment you will gain actual talent out of your experimentation

[white frost]

https://tenor.com/view/jonkler-joker-gif-4939694494140375951

[small glen]

I just think the strength system was unnecessary as all hell

[little verge]

Yes I am in there, though I do not frequent the space.

[small glen]

It generally did more bad than good

[devout lion]

nah i love it and i love visual/physical progression on my character

[sleek gull]

couldn't agree more.

[devout lion]

the wrists are the problem

not the strength

[small glen]

Okay cool but

[devout lion]

the wrists cause most of the handling issues

[small glen]

3kg

Willie can't swing

3kg swords

[rotund palm]

i think it has to do with the weapon system

[devout lion]

that too

[gloomy bridge]

yeah i forget where to join

[devout lion]

there's nothing wrong with the concept of strength

[little verge]

Not enough women........

[devout lion]

LOL?

[restive cave]

I actually like it alot, I enjoy being able to scale up

[white frost]

https://giphy.com/gifs/metal-gear-jetstream-sam-revengeance-Du842vHOEC9Ge8aQBe

[rotund palm]

because a buff willie can completely lift and throw around other willies which are like 70 kg if the weight system isnt lying

[gloomy bridge]

willie is all you need

[devout lion]

yeah at 100kg u can easily throw willies so its not really the strength

its the wrists

ITS THE WRISTS!

[rotund palm]

the weapons seem to have a speed cap linked to their length and weight which is stupid but i hope its a bandaid solution that will be fixed in the final release

[white frost]

this is all you need

[devout lion]

im not schizophrenic i swear its the wrists

[rotund palm]

i think its 20% wrists 80% weapon problems

[gleaming lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-you-are-a-chud-chud-gif-1321881987323574754

[sleek gull]

To be fair, that is 6lbs. A 14th century longsword was around 2.5-3.5 lbs.

3kg would be twice as heavy as a real sword.

Not saying he shouldn't be able to swing it, but it would be pretty heavy

[devout lion]

and also the fact that weapon grips like bugging out

[small glen]

Most casual people can lift around 3kg in weight

[little verge]

Linked you an invite.

[sleek gull]

Even way more.

But that is lifting, not swinging with grace and precision

[small glen]

Willie shouldn't be any different, especially if they know hema

[rare hearth]

wait does willie even know hema

[small glen]

To a degree, yes

[rare hearth]

bro is a peasant escaping debt

[small glen]

It's unknown

[rotund palm]

if half sword gets a new game+ we should be able to play as willie himself and the lore is that he is a modern fencing martial artist that goes back in time for some reason

[rare hearth]

i do not think he was training his sword skills

[small glen]

What he running from

[sleek gull]

Had to check.

An official HEMA tournement regulation longsword is between 1.25kg and 1.8kg.

[jolly elk]

why is this guy lowkey m0gging me

[small glen]

He knows how to use weapons really well

[gleaming lodge]

when is gabagoon getting added mcwonde

[rotund palm]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-soprano-james-gandolfini-the-sopranos-drawing-painting-gif-14648608313489473242

[small glen]

It can be definitely suggested that either he was trained, was a soldier, or a mercenary

Before running away

[little verge]

It is the keystone of the issues with the way the combat feels in EA. All reporting across the board is that despite getting used to the adjustments in stances and reaching maximum strength wrists feel to weak and flimsy.

[analog stream]

That depends on how much you progress tho

[devout lion]

yeah I got used to the floppy wrists but im really hoping you guys fix it next update

[analog stream]

At first you're just a poor and skinny person

[devout lion]

its one of the fundamental issues with EA rn

[rare hearth]

should we be hopeful because of the steam medieval fest

[small glen]

No it doesn't

[sleek gull]

Now I won't be a hypocrit and quote this as an official statement. But hearing that acknowledgement is music to my ears.

[rare hearth]

its still going for 7 days

[small glen]

I am still curious why this issue wasn't fixed before release, especially since it was known in testing

[little verge]

I would not. Nothing is release ready at this time.

[rare hearth]

aw

[gloomy hedge]

i really hope this next update is a big one that fixes a lot of bugs

[analog stream]

It really shows on polearms tho, you cant make your polearm like past 2 kg otherwise it feels pretty sluggish unless your willie is really strong

Like an 80+ kg character still has issues maintaining their grip

[rotund palm]

they should take their time honestly, the only issue they have is communication and i dont think anybody minds that they need time to develop the game, they already rushed it with EA so we dont need more half assed releases

[devout lion]

yeah i agree 100%

[gloomy hedge]

yeah i agree with this

[devout lion]

i dont mind the amount of time it takes as long as i know whats going on

[rare hearth]

half assed... half sword...

[rotund palm]

🥹

[rotund palm]

pun unintended but appreciated

[gloomy hedge]

this and the stuttering issue if your left arm gets damaged in any form
i hate when this bug causes me to have to restart lord tourney

i feel like the flail is done really well tho, it handles nicely

[pearl ferry]

the flail is what caseoh thought the pitchfork was

[small glen]

The flail is insanely broken

[little verge]

At the time of closed testing it was not widely reported, and those who reported it were also not sure if was weapon specific or strength mechanic related.

There is a common issue in small scale testing with 'toxic positivity'. Sometimes things are under reported due to hype, and or not wanting to come of harsh.

[small glen]

I am being so deadass

[small glen]

So, the testers were... canadians?!

[little verge]

Really I don't see people saying this allot. It's my new favorite weapon.

What issue are you having with it?

[rotund palm]

i always avoid the flails and plancons because they seem so OP

[misty gazelle]

They seem to have too much impact for little effort.

[rare hearth]

i think he means its insanely overpowered

[rotund palm]

and they have a lot of range

[small glen]

Way to much damage for such little movements

I don't think it's bad

[analog stream]

The flail is really smooth to use, its one of the weapons that genuinely feel nimble and powerfull

[misty gazelle]

You can get nudged by it and get floored or at least staggered.

[small glen]

But the flail is def the plancon of the ea, like how the plancon was the king in the demo

[rare hearth]

u flail the flail and kill willies

[sleek gull]

Flail is OP if you consider it deals bludgening damage, AND it can cut.

[gloomy hedge]

I havent really noticed this, but maybe thats because ive been using it full force every swing

[misty gazelle]

This goes for any polearm though

[little verge]

Ah ok I see now. Yes the blunt damage got overtuned in EA it was overcorrection.

[devout lion]

polearms in general do too much blunt damagfe

[gloomy hedge]

i have noticed though in the lower tiers its extremely difficult to get an attack down without their weapon somehow colliding with you in a BS way

[rotund palm]

yeah theyre also very OP

[pearl ferry]

flail is OP just based on the fact that its a physics object taped to another physics object so you need very little for it to be incredibly effective

[devout lion]

im hoping maces keep most of their blunt damage though

they're the ones that would make sense

[misty gazelle]

Yeah.

[rotund palm]

i think they should buff helmets and make it so if you have a helmet you cant get concussed easily

[devout lion]

well realistically they would still be ass but gameplay wise

keep it as is

[misty gazelle]

Maces are good where they are currently.

[rotund palm]

swords in the demo and EA can literally knock you out if hit in the head which i dont think is fair

[devout lion]

ive never been knocked out by a sword in EA

[analog stream]

Yeah maces arent much of an issue to deal with they hit.. hard but not incredibly hard

[gloomy hedge]

has anyone noticed the enemies seem to have too much stamina or is that just me

[rotund palm]

a single tap almost puts you to sleep with anything else

[rare hearth]

thank you for saying that you wouldve sparked THE conversation for the 1582917490th time

[gloomy hedge]

ive noticed with a pole arm they can constantly swing it like 3 or 4 times in a row, but if i try that i get exhausted quickly

[little verge]

Not something I have experienced either but with dynamic physics at play I have seen and heard some crazy reports.

[devout lion]

only time where i ever knocked people with a sword was the knight greatsword in the demo

that one was fun as hell to bludgeon people with

[rotund palm]

i have knocked people out though

[rare hearth]

bro mantic would do some stuff with them

[gloomy hedge]

I prefer the current feeling of armor honestly. The helmet could use a small buff but in the demo it was almost impossible to get any attack that wasnt a slice in the joints of the armor

[analog stream]

Oh yeah sometimes you can just push the oponent with sword and knock them out

[misty gazelle]

I mean. You’re being battered by a big iron slab at the end of the day. Concussion can happen.

[small glen]

The armor needs a buff against blunt damage, that's all I am saying

[rotund palm]

yeah armor is very balanced for now its just the concussion im complaining about

[little verge]

The gaps felt 'magnetic'.

[misty gazelle]

Gaps are doable

[analog stream]

But yeah blunt damage is way too big, like hitting a person in their cuirass with a polearm already messes them a fair bit, in the cuirass!

[devout lion]

the baron's polearm can easily graze you with the wooden shaft and knock you unconscious

it is the baron but

why

[small glen]

I think they need a nerf across the board, blunt is way to high.

On low damage you can really see how bad it is

[rare hearth]

is it just me or did it feel like polearms are more effective in the hands of npcs

[gloomy hedge]

hitting a gap is very satisfying, but i also like that blunt damage does a lot of damage because thats how it would work if you were actually wearing a suit of armor, considering the metal plates transfers concussive force

[rotund palm]

i hope chrome makes a mod that removes concussion from the game so we can test if its better with or without it

[devout lion]

the only problems i see from blunt damage stem from:

• shields, pavises, etc
• poleaxes/polearms
• flails (maybe)

[rare hearth]

hse infinite stamina...

[rotund palm]

wait

[gloomy hedge]

hse is fire, i love messing w it

[devout lion]

i said this for the 1000th time but one time i grabbed a pavise and it broke my arm

[rotund palm]

head hits reduce stamina????

[small glen]

Grazing the shield throws you to the floor and murders your stamina

[rare hearth]

hse, half sword enhancer

[rotund palm]

ye ik

[devout lion]

i thought liver hits reduced stamina

my opponents would often breathe heavily when i hit them good in the liver

[rare hearth]

bro i once killed someone by extending my shield and running into them

[analog stream]

Concussion is ofc normal and expected, the head is like one of the few valid targets of blunt damage, but getting completely detroyed by hits to the limbs and torso is too much, and yeah even on the head its too much at times.

[devout lion]

yeah shield and polearm blunt damage needs fixing

mace is fine though i dont know if anyone ever had a problem with maces being maces

[small glen]

My biggest gripe is how like

The shaft of a polearm touches you

Slightly

[devout lion]

exactly

i know where you're getting to

it sucks

[small glen]

And your fucking falling over and dying

Like what

[gloomy hedge]

I just dont want blunt damage with armor to go back to how it was in the demo where it felt impossible to get a solid hit in

[misty basin]

Shields are only a problem in unarmoured in terms of blunt damage

I played as a tower shield hobbit

Doesn't work in armour

[analog stream]

But idk, in the demo it was fine to get solid hits with the pollaxe or mace if yoh hit

[devout lion]

even then shields are miserable to fight against, especially the pavise, when they have it equipped on their shoulder or back

[misty basin]

You have to knock over an enemy and swarm them by holding a shield to the neck

[gloomy hedge]

its possible im misremembering but idk it felt a little difficult

[devout lion]

i feel like shields should be able to be knocked away when its worn after sustaining damage, at least some form of limitting the damage it can take

[small glen]

Don't even get me started on the fucking flinching

The thing grazes my hand and I am having a seizure

[gloomy hedge]

i will say i definitely miss the spoilance gamemode

[misty basin]

Poleaxe was easy

[gloomy hedge]

spoilance was one of my favorite parts of the demo

[analog stream]

It also requires practice, and that makes sense cus you're not supposed to rely on blunt damage alone to defeat someone in armor

[gloomy hedge]

thats fair

[small glen]

I remember in the demo

Blunt was considered bad

Now in the ea

Blades are bad

Blunt is king

[analog stream]

Yeah classic overcorrection

[misty basin]

I mean practice means knowing the range of a weapon and how to swing for the head

[warped apex]

THE GLOCK IS AMAZING

[gloomy hedge]

im genuinely curious does anyone actually enjoy the changes they made to abyss? it feels so much more laborious than before

[warped apex]

gun sword

[devout lion]

no i do not

old abyss was fine

[analog stream]

Yeah, thats the dificulty of it, and idk, thats fine

[misty basin]

The part I don't like is that the enemies are zombies so you can't kill them quickly so my 100 men abyses take 3 hours

[gloomy hedge]

abyss is pretty much a death sentence if you're a low rank

[small glen]

Axes got fucking evaporated, I need to mention this shit.

Axes were broken, sure but it made sense why the dismemberent chance was so high. If they fixed the fact it fell like 2ft and chopped your leg off then it would've been fine

Axes got so gutted that they hardly cut anymore,

[devout lion]

i beat the abyss multiple times in the demo because it was pretty fun but i dont even bother playing abyss anymore and i always pay off souls because otherwise its a slog

[rotund palm]

traumatic auto parry

this game doesnt need the auto parry system

[safe rain]

Mmmm glock 19

[small glen]

Where the auto parry

[rotund palm]

it should only be a setting for assisted game play

[gloomy hedge]

do you also feel that the enemies axes have gotten stronger? I'll swing at someone with an axe and even though i disable them, their axe grazing me causes me to lose a limb

[misty basin]

I die like once every 100 days and I can say the abyss is a slog

[rotund palm]

ur hand twitches because of the auto parry system

[misty basin]

Because zombies are to hard to kill fast

[rare hearth]

SO TRUE

[small glen]

Oh at the beginning i was spamming alt, to remember how to pommel smack

[rotund palm]

ohhhh mb

[misty basin]

The only reliable way of winning is knock a zombie over and stomp their skull in

[gloomy hedge]

This or wildly slash half sword style

[rotund palm]

yeah

[gloomy hedge]

and hope you get it caught around the neck

[rare hearth]

or just slice them in half

[misty basin]

I use poleaxes

[rare hearth]

fruit ninja the mfers

[gloomy hedge]

doesnt work nearly as well in the higher tiers

[analog stream]

Its kinda weird how a zombie is super easy to jsut cut in half, but then you need so much impact to actually get them to die

[gloomy hedge]

tho ive noticed once im high tier i usually just pay off my abyss lol

[misty basin]

Swords are unreliable in the baron stage