halfsword-chat-⚔

[wind charm]

I got a clip of it, just trust

[rough matrix]

Slight cut on the arm

arm gone

everything works like this

[mint wadi]

This was cinematic as FUCK

[rough matrix]

like a fk witcher

[silent flax]

I'm doing shit like that with just max gore

[rough matrix]

but on 300% gore u don't need to use str

just slight cut

touch of the blade

[mint wadi]

I pulled the axe through his neck from the back.

Jesus.

[wind charm]

we love violence

[lone aspen]

Yall be turning the difficulty up in the back end

[rough matrix]

for start just rise up the npc damage all the way right

an gore all the way right

if u cannot find the cfg file

[mint wadi]

Damn the only thing that could have made that better is if his face slid off after.

2 second clip on why polearms are based

[mental kelp]

if it was grotesque probs would

[hoary dome]

is it just me or is the spin kick near impossible to pull off since they released the new playtest?

[mossy pagoda]

what's this polearm called?

[rough matrix]

billhook

[wind charm]

skillhook

[mossy pagoda]

oh ok its just a slightly different looking billhook

[silent flax]

Its hard but not impossible

[mint wadi]

I pulled off my favorite neck pull through move again.

Also featuring a SICK parry/block

[mossy pagoda]

i love early game polearms bc you can whack your enemies really hard with them

[rough matrix]

idk how they make over the head spin in Half Sword Trailer but it's sick too

just make NPC damage all the way right

in settings

and gore

[mossy pagoda]

addition

[rough matrix]

that will tho

[rough matrix]

idk bro

[mossy pagoda]

well i guess it could be edition but like

[rough matrix]

if lightsaber will be an edition of half sword

then shut up and take my money

[mint wadi]

I just use slow mo to kick since I don't have a ton of mouse space.

[mossy pagoda]

half sword except everyone instantly dies

[silent flax]

You can also turn your mouse sens up

[rough matrix]

seems like spikestick on militia +

Stil every speeruner wet dream

[mossy pagoda]

PLANCON MY BELOVED

[alpine terrace]

https://www.twitch.tv/soupandgroceries/clip/AdventurousCuriousPlumTheTarFu-4Q9TMC7ddjq6h6Og

punch a sword thru this dudes throat

[mint wadi]

HAHA he killed himself just about. I tabbed back in the game and he basically gave me an execution

[rough matrix]

Hitting a sword in the throat of this dudes is easier than u may think

they already have slopes to hit your sword

just hit under the headgear

[mossy pagoda]

I JUST LOST AGAINST SOMEONE WITH A SPEAR AND SHIELD

HOW

[silent flax]

Once i went to toilet and the guy just rushed his head right into my sword

[silent flax]

Git gud

[alpine terrace]

show me a clip of you puching a dude and the sword going thru his neck

[pearl ferry]

butlerian jihad now

[mossy pagoda]

how tf did i do this

[rough matrix]

gimme a sec i'll do this right now

with tier?

[mossy pagoda]

i think i tricked the game

[alpine terrace]

just post the clip

[mint wadi]

Dude it's so versatile.

[rough matrix]

Tier

bcs idk if that has to be knight or man at arms

[alpine terrace]

your better, i give a fuck

[pearl ferry]

new spine

[ember flame]

what is on your waist?

[rough matrix]

below knight throat cut

[pearl ferry]

my battle skirt of course

[rough matrix]

second fight

[ember flame]

is it a mod ive never encountered such armor

[pearl ferry]

its chainmail faulds

soldiers and veterans wear them typically under gambeson

so u never see them as standalone skirts

i spawned it in with a mod

[mint wadi]

The tangle.

[ember flame]

oh ok

[alpine terrace]

i wasnt holding the sword i punched the sword he was holding into his throat

[rough matrix]

Ahh this type

So ok your point

[alpine terrace]

i have no point, it was a cool clip

[pearl ferry]

more silly berzerker skirt action

[rough matrix]

But still got the CLEANEST riposte of my fk life

[mossy pagoda]

my opponent fell down on one knee and then did a slow turn at me and stood back up again

[silent flax]

You guys know what is funny when you set you damage all the way to left i split the guy in half and he was still fighting

[rough matrix]

yeah it's kinda funny tbh

they start to act like terminator at this point

[silent flax]

Yes no blood is lightsaber way

Also i need this bug as seperate gamemode

[soft osprey]

No actually it’s the other way, around 5 miles, Youre going the wrong direction.

[silent flax]

I mean fighting with full armor vs no armor

Yeah my favorite

Its so easy to split them in half

[alpine terrace]

so you didnt even watch the clip but your trying one up me? homie just enjoy the show next time stop being a narcissist

[calm ivy]

I just DELI SLICED this man's head lol:

[silent flax]

Stick with spikes still the best weapon

[mental kelp]

play from ochs

[silent flax]

Anime ahh fight

[hoary dome]

how do i upload a picture on here? I feel like a boomer and im not even a millenial 😂

[silent flax]

You need lvl 2

[hoary dome]

bullshit

[silent flax]

Nope

[silent flax]

I know because i asked same question like 10 hours ago lmao

[hoary dome]

i have the sickest screenshot and i cant even share it

[silent flax]

You can on pictures

[silent flax]

I mean photography

[hoary dome]

oh ok

[wind charm]

why not both
https://youtu.be/11oKn35i_HE?si=P3x-DtMesTJzCWM6

[silent flax]

Im kinda disappointed

[hoary dome]

i put it in photagraphy

photography

[silent flax]

I mean it was funny

[hoary dome]

im stupid

[silent flax]

I know

[hoary dome]

you suck

[silent flax]

Just being honest

Lol

This discord has 117k members

Wow

I didn't think the game was this big

[wheat wigeon]

There's very few games that lean into the brutality of melee combat like half sword. It's easy to see why it'd get that big

[silent flax]

Yeah i think most games like this are for vr

[ember flame]

i just fucking kick my enemys dagger and i disarmed him so now i have a dagger in my leg

[silent flax]

I would love to play blade and sorcery on keyboard and mouse

[unique cedar]

take it out

[ember flame]

i dont think willie will like that

[wind charm]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxfLttirfnRwMvT8A3i3DcZGcPQSEKND_2?si=edbTVKGTO3kwiWmD

[ember flame]

Most melee vr sucks becuase the ai are stupid and can be cheesed so easily its not even funny. I've beaten all of blade and sorcery just by sticking a sword forth and running into my enemy's

to the point where playing one life crystal hunt is easy mode

i feel like i have to give myself an disadvantage

[silent flax]

I think that's on your side

Almost all games can be cheesed

[ember flame]

i mean i dont use mods and i play on pc 🤷‍♂️

[silent flax]

Ok fair

[ember flame]

yeah but blade and sorcery is ridicules cheese

the enemys magic is kinda cool but its not helping them

[wind charm]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxP-JsC6_63i6KqJhMki4X4sI9cVDbPOQ9?si=A5MZxKCEAA5O9WFW

[mental kelp]

its always a problem with games that have procedural animating, cause the player can always do more than what the npcs can do, same thing with half sword

[silent flax]

Why don't you use mods than

[ember flame]

blade and sorcery's enemy's aren't physics based until you knock them over unlike halfswords which are active ragdolls. Personally i find half swords ai to be much more challenging.

[ember flame]

i do i was just talking about base game bc when you talk about a game you usually talk about it when played with no mods

like if i had modded ai why would i blame the game

[silent flax]

Ok makes sense

[mental kelp]

yea exactly though they are limited, whereas the player can move his hands freely, can switch between weapons/magic/etc, can grab

biggest cheeses I've seen is literally being able to walk up, grab the enemy on the head and throw them away

[ember flame]

I mean blade and sorcery's enemy's are so stupid to the point where they will walk up into your face and stare at you for 8 seconds like they are waiting to be dispatched.

half swords are more dyanmic becuase they try to have distance and have different modes

[silent flax]

I don't think that's cheese its just how the game works

[mental kelp]

yea true sometimes half swords does similar but its better slightly

like if you wait around a bit in pre fencing willie might just stand there and do nothing

[ember flame]

i wouldnt say slightly its like night and day

plus having it completetly physics based changes the gameplay so much for the better

each animated strike is slightly different

bc of fatigue, balance and shit

[mental kelp]

yea it is a lot better I just meant sometimes it is reminiscent if you try to play defensively especially

[ember flame]

yeah

[mental kelp]

so far it is mainly working because the player will go aggressive

[ember flame]

also halfwords enemy's since their physics based allows you to bind and do defensive maneuvers when bns npc's are glued to the ground and their animations cant be altered by gravity, balance or physics. Its not even really parrying its just when you hit their sword they stunned and dont move for 3 seconds

willie also defends himself when grabbed unlike the npcs of bns

[mental kelp]

true yea

[mental kelp]

its medium

on 12

on dx12 tho

so darker shadows and lumen n stuff

better reflects

[quiet ferry]

https://medal.tv/games/half-sword/clips/kuhr7afN0WTwcxylL?invite=cr-MSxTM0gsMzg3MzI3ODAy

furst kil thro!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yippeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mental kelp]

pleiere of þe swarde, a fool to be madde

play from fool's guard

[tender quest]

false edge

[mental kelp]

cuz no cooldown here, and also people can then comment on them

[brazen crest]

i hate when the blade goes through the head but the head doesnt come out

yes

yes it is sad

[mental kelp]

inverted hands push off

[faint blade]

the ultimate challenge its the hardest thing ive ever played

[shell bronze]

commoner boss moment

[real shell]

I do think the controls are pretty intuitive, but I still wish I could remap a couple things. Thrusting would be so much easier if I could remap it to M1 + M4 instead of M1 x 2

[shell bronze]

he really ain't shit bro

[tender quest]

this mfer got me good

[mental kelp]

will wilhelm ever learn to block a proper thrust

[real shell]

Dude that parry repost you did was beautiful. 200/10. You probably should have died from that first hit though lol

[shell bronze]

the consequences of fighting the 2x axe

lowkey i cannot parry that fuckin thing

only avoid and outmaneuever it

or use this

[tender quest]

was deffo a close one XD

[shell bronze]

no opponent survives the slapping stick

[mental kelp]

fella's weapon was launched from this ochs play disarm

[tawdry dune]

Is it just me or the final challenge is ridiculously broken when i can literally get split in half by an axe swinged with nearly no strenght?

[shell bronze]

turn gore off

or lower it

gore gives higher dismemberment values

[tawdry dune]

I thought it was just visual and not with anything to do with the gameplay

[faint blade]

ia its completly accurate in the final challenge

[shell bronze]

it affects gameplay fully yeah

turn it off and you only die from regular damage

can this guy don't

tryna stab so much for no reason

[tawdry dune]

Makes sense, tho does blood also impact on gameplay?

[empty badger]

coming back to check if there is a way to remove the abyss after death because it keeps crashing my game without fail

[soft osprey]

No, the blood slider is just for blood effects

[mint gust]

tunnel effect

[soft osprey]

However the current blood causes crashes, so id recommend turning it down or off entirely

You can read more in the most recent #updates post

Also posting this here

https://discord.com/channels/1043854763189600337/1382446020906057868

[tawdry dune]

alr ty

[soft osprey]

No, but you can turn off the fog setting and see if it helps

[brazen crest]

fr

[empty badger]

ill try

[mental kelp]

one-handed neck slice

[shell bronze]

blood slider is looks

[tawdry dune]

What's the sensitivity you use?

[mental kelp]

700 dpi and in game its at the end of the first t in the word sensitivity

one sec

[shell bronze]

one handing is so fun

you're literally just limp wristing dudes

[mental kelp]

approx. value for in game is ~1.41

[empty badger]

it didnt work

[soft osprey]

Try a clean reinstall

Maybe something’s wrong

[soft osprey]

follow this guide, ignore the fact it’s for gore selection bug

[lean niche]

Gore Selection BUG

Delete all files relating to Half Sword existing in your local files. Be sure to back up your screenshots folder if you took any!

Uninstall the Half Sword demo via Steam
Right click on Half Sword Demo in you steam library Manage>Uninstall

IMPORTANT

Press WIN+R then type %localappdata% hit Enter
Now Navigate to and Delete the HalfswordUE5 folder.

Finally, reinstall Half Sword Demo.

Please note Appdata is a hidden folder by default and you need to enable show hidden items in the file explorer.

[empty badger]

ill try it tomorrow ill see if it works

thank you anyway

[soft osprey]

No worries

[mental kelp]

brutal scheitelhau. I hit him scalpwise like normal, if not a little to the left, but it got dragged downwards into his eye, as he proceeds to step and push further inwards, wherein I inverted my hands, twisting the blade around inside his eye socket, and withdrew out

[ripe hornet]

is there still way to get access after the took away the "open" beta they had a couple montsh ago

[shell bronze]

there is something WRONG with that fuckass axe

[mental kelp]

sorta twerhaw 🤑

I didnt know I could send higher than 10mb here but idk what the limit is then

[serene tulip]

When you block left and should've blocked right

[mental kelp]

kinda more like a blunt zwerchau-zornhau mix this one but wtv

[mental kelp]

the way the hands are still mirrored in the same pose as if they are connected 😹

[mint gust]

😭

[serene tulip]

Who's suffering more

[mental kelp]

the chopped off legs

chopped head not suffering no more

[serene tulip]

But see, you say that and yet you have missed an important detail!

The head chopped man is HATLESS

he dies without proper head adornment, with shame

[mental kelp]

indeed I did not notice this.......

how cna he live with himself now

heavy af hit still left no blood...

looking back in the frames I'm literally pressing against the nape of his neck with the pommel and bashing downwards

[warped apex]

Willy did a flip over me lol

[naive holly]

If you didn't not unsitally the playtest you can still launch it from the .exe in the game directory.

If you uninstalled it well... ya out of luck

[shell bronze]

baron play too much man

had to give it to im

with his own longsword

[mental kelp]

love this overhead flow back down to a low guard

the way it swings around the head

[runic karma]

How is his skull not get crushed (And yes I made it slow to see the impact)

shower bro

Dont shower for her, shower for yourself

[warped apex]

Help

Willy did a flip over me like a anime character after being stabbed

[runic karma]

Yea dont switch up for them, switch up for yourself. Showering is good for you and sometimes we have to do things we don't like.

[vapid hull]

when the enemy doesn't wear neck protection 🥰

[warped apex]

I shower everyday

Also @vapid hull good bilhooking

[vapid hull]

yess

[warped apex]

I'm older than you lol quiet child don't speak the brain rot to me

https://tenor.com/view/talk-to-the-hand-arnold-schwarzenegger-terminator-quote-movie-gif-13612079

[runic karma]

I may have broken his neck just a little bit

[warped apex]

I'm 20 lol

I'm not an uncle yet

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-crying-shower-private-gif-8466975

[vapid hull]

slow mow makes stabbs viable

I like how disarming works

[runic karma]

I GOT IT IN

ITS THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE TO STAB THROUGH THE VISOR

[crude flower]

I've done it once or twice

How do you think you can see through it, silly

[vapid hull]

Oh yeah I've done that

hamg on

Ye

[mental kelp]

ham gone 😿

[mental kelp]

head gone, carry on

[small needle]

They should re add the option to make their heads explode

or the thing to disembowl them because back then you could take their intestines out

[shell bronze]

at what point do i swap hands

i'm trying to get better at ways to use a polearm that isn't jabbing or swiping the head

[wind charm]

imagine a triangle, at the top point is where you switch if you're changing stance

[shell bronze]

you mean like at the middle orr

[wind charm]

lemme jump on

[shell bronze]

yeah sorry lmao i only know how to longsword

[sleek gull]

Clips! lol

[wind charm]

I couldn't use the long spear, way too slow 🥀

[shell bronze]

some real kratos type gameplay

[small needle]

That swap was masterful

[wispy bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/chungus-pinged-ben-shapiro-discord-big-gif-21424212

[shell bronze]

commoner boss really ain't shiet

parrying a direct attack from him is next to impossible but openings are easy to find

[mental kelp]

play from fool's guard

[wispy bobcat]

Parrying only works if you parry from the strong of your blade, otherwise he overpowers you unless you can get close enough to where he can’t utilise the leverage of his blade against you

[mental kelp]

flowed from his left opening, to his high opening, to his right-low opening

[shell bronze]

pretty much yeah

[desert spear]

Haií ;3

[shell bronze]

you aren't strong enough and your weapon isn't long enough to overcome his strikes directly so you can only deflect

[shell bronze]

hi

[wispy bobcat]

Hello!

[desert spear]

I need help with something but idk if I should ask here ;-;

[desert spear]

How r u!

[wispy bobcat]

I’m good!

[wispy bobcat]

I can try my best to help

What do you need?

[small needle]

The final boss won't stop aura farming me

[lethal crag]

that’s the baron for ya

give a man a full suit of golden armor and hes bound to aura farm

[small needle]

oh The Baron

ive been calling him King Arthur

[desert spear]

It's related to half sword but
It's like
I need help with installing this cool shader thingy because I'm too stupid to understand how files work ;-;
I saw it on a video and it makes combat look super cool so I wanted to try it

[soft osprey]

you can still out aura him if you die with grace

[small needle]

good idea

[lethal crag]

yeah but he needs to win

[small needle]

I'm having the biggest skill issure bit the world's ever seen

[wispy bobcat]

actually i dont have much experience on this one unfortunately, maybe if you ask in #modders-guild-hall perhaps that could be somewhere that they are more knowledgeable on the subject

[desert spear]

Oh oki :P
Thank u!

[wispy bobcat]

what i am going to do though is watch a few videos on the subject myself and learn it so i can help out in future

[wise canyon]

all these blokes here with irl knowledge of longsword technique and all I have is ‘punch them in the face really hard with my shield then leg sweep’ 😂

[lethal crag]

that works too!

[mental kelp]

Real

[small needle]

I found a way to get to the baron without doing the ultimate challenge

or is that how its always been

[wise canyon]

Sure does, but not as graceful

[lethal crag]

ah you learn with time

as i still am lol

[wispy bobcat]

the humble zornhau:

[lethal crag]

the who

[wispy bobcat]

zornhau

[lethal crag]

th

[wispy bobcat]

its a diagonal longsword strike

[lethal crag]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok

[wispy bobcat]

rather good for keeping space

[wise canyon]

Nah I've got no local HEMA clubs, only buhurt and re-enactment

[mental kelp]

I feinted mr. fischer super hard here lmao

He didnt know what to do

kind of erratic of a movement but I was testing it out

[wispy bobcat]

more like POOhurt

[wise canyon]

In buhurt longsword duels we can't even use low guards because it means the blade is pointed directly at their face

[wispy bobcat]

amirite lads or amirite?

[runic steeple]

how do i delete my gauntlet progress

[wispy bobcat]

harnisfechten all the way

[wispy bobcat]

^^^

[wise canyon]

HEMA is classical music, re-enactment is folk metal and buhurt is straight up death metal. All are great

[runic steeple]

thank you

[mental kelp]

hema is not always classical music

you can do slams and takedowns too

sometimes

heavy af disarms and the like

[wise canyon]

Would love to do that. I forget his name but there's a guy on youtube who does it with sharp weapons and fully authentic armour

[wise canyon]

The 1812 Overture by Tchaikovsky exists too

[fierce acorn]

thats death metal

[wise canyon]

Nah it's death clasical

Or power classical

[fierce acorn]

ive never heard of any cannonballs being made of clasical but ok

[desert spear]

I wonder if willy is actually conscious sometimes

[wispy bobcat]

do you mean dequitem?

[wind charm]

we rocking Gold Camos up in this bih

[wise canyon]

Yep that's the guy. Does unarmoured baskit hilt too, really cool

[desert spear]

Woaaa
Wait I know this guy

His videos r really cool

[wispy bobcat]

theyre super cool!

[desert spear]

I am a little bit skeptical about the knight Vs peasants tho

Like

[wispy bobcat]

also a great playlist to just have on when like studying weirdly enough though

[desert spear]

Did nobody think to just tackle him from behind

[wise canyon]

Full plate ASMR is a real thing

[mental kelp]

Holy Willie bot scheitelhau

I didn't drop my weapon on purpose btw, the hit was hard enough to make me

[desert spear]

Omg poor willy

[scenic narwhal]

What's fun is to turn player and NPC damage to lowest, blood to lowest, and gore to highest.

[wispy bobcat]

kick his knee from behind and he goes down lmao

[wispy bobcat]

knocked the SNOT out of you holy hell

[mental kelp]

I like that pose he stretched at the end

he coming to get me

[scenic narwhal]

I think he was doing a normal swing, and your skill issue caused it

[mental kelp]

yea he pulled back out of the bind and swung to the scalp

[desert spear]

I meant like
Uh
Get him to fall down and everyone else just jumps him
I think that would've worked
I mean sure the knight always has the advantage but I feel like 5+ people bashing your head in or trying to stab it through Ur armor would actually work
Maybe not
Idk much about this ;w;

[mental kelp]

you can see in the frame by frame, we're in a bind, he swipes it to my left and then strikes down

[scenic narwhal]

If you're pinned down on the ground someone can just run a knife through a gap in the armour, and you're done.

[mental kelp]

it is not sentience but it did happen and it looked cool

[austere salmon]

hey john longsword, can i show you a siege cart i made for a contest wiht my brother

[mental kelp]

here is to make up for it

[mental kelp]

Lets see it

[scenic narwhal]

The AI in general is a little better than you'd expect it to be, especially for a demo. Still provides a challenege even if you're pretty good.

[austere salmon]

he's making a wall to resist it, i had to make a cart without guns or the decimator, so i made a power hammer with a gravity gun

incase i cant break it, im just gonna fucken throw it

[mental kelp]

yea but I mean it's like you said, he was just doing a normal windup and swing, there wasn't the though of "im in a bind let me swipe around"

it was purely happenstance

[desert spear]

Oooh
I see

Honestly I always saw knight as like

These unbeatable tanks

But yknow

[scenic narwhal]

Yup. Sometimes it's an accident, but it's still decent overall.

[desert spear]

Thinking about it if you can get a dagger through the gaps maybe u have a chance

[mental kelp]

I thought you meant irl at first lol

that's cool though

[desert spear]

Actually that's what half swording is for right??

[austere salmon]

nope, people playground

he's gonna make a wall to try and resist it, i made a cart to try and destroy it

[desert spear]

Using Ur sword as a dagger for an armoured opponent

[austere salmon]

less of like a dagger and more of like a spear

[scenic narwhal]

https://youtu.be/5IUFyz8AloE?si=ZG3xKpA7Y4fyb2qZ This gives you the idea.

[austere salmon]

halfswording chokes up on the sword to give more point control and thrusting precision

useful for wiggling your point between armor plates and opening their can so to speak

[shell bronze]

that's actually how i fight when i want to play it more like an arcade hack and slash

[scenic narwhal]

The entire purpose for a sword against full plate is that, regardless of half swording. You just get more control with the latter. That's also why they got longer and skinnier with time IIRC

[desert spear]

Oh yea I saw this
And other vids about realistic knight fights
By the end it starts looking desperate and really exhausting

[scenic narwhal]

Well, fighting is.

[mental kelp]

dagger

[desert spear]

I just use it to put willies on a headlock and throw them on the ground

[scenic narwhal]

And neither were you a "tank" in the heavy sense. Modern soldiers typically carry more than someone in full plate back then.

[desert spear]

It never actually works as it should

[austere salmon]

i use it for throwing willies and cutting their necks

if you want i can give tips with longswords/greatsword, im a great weapon fighter

[desert spear]

I like axes
They look cooler

I don't use swords much

[austere salmon]

axes are fun but i prefer the more technical fighting of a greatsword

[desert spear]

I just prefer to have fun and hack willies apart

I'm too stupid for swords

[scenic narwhal]

But yes, besides a couple exceptions basically nothing was penetrating plate, so you went around it. Even the strongest longbow can barely even dent a breastplate. The only hope there is a flat part of a thinner piece on the arm or such.

[desert spear]

Oooo

[scenic narwhal]

Swords are the most fun thing in the game.

[desert spear]

Omg I had an idea

Full plate armor knight

Vs boiling oil

[scenic narwhal]

And halfsword does a good job. You basically can't penetrate the armour. It works. Unlike the movies

[shell bronze]

low damage gameplay is literally either decapitation or driving your weapon INSANELY deep into the opponent and keeping it there

[scenic narwhal]

Don't really need oil. Just water.

[shell bronze]

otherwise they are not dying lmao

[desert spear]

Yea they are but like
It gets too technical and I always die
So I like using something that's easier

Although

[scenic narwhal]

it's great if the gore is turned up too. It's like a cartoon

[desert spear]

I do like that really thin sword cuz I can stab them in the neck with precision

[scenic narwhal]

Just try it for a while. Be deliberate in your movements

[desert spear]

It's the only thing I do well with swords

[mental kelp]

hit em with this. this is an old scanning of the page so its pretty low quality but, the attack goes under and halfswords up his Willie

[feral lily]

Uhh

I stole bro's collarbone

[desert spear]

I've been trying
I installed a lot of weapon packs and it's complicated but not impossible
Still I prefer to have fun so I use pole arms and what not

Or a falchion

[shell bronze]

ikr

[warped apex]

willy tried hiding in the chest

[shell bronze]

it also means not every parry has to be perfect

[scenic narwhal]

And half swording is especially good in the game against unarmoured opponents.

[shell bronze]

just enough to keep you from getting hit hard enough to get game ended

[scenic narwhal]

You can also "half sword" with spears, which is very effective

[warped apex]

anything is good against a unarmoured person lol

[desert spear]

Yea but oil is more annoying and smells yucky sometimes so yknow
It's more of an inconvenience

[feral lily]

Deserved

[warped apex]

I stabbed willy he flew and hit the rafters

[mental kelp]

tried it in blossfechten, minimal success

[jade pulsar]

yoo my willie won then dead then was fully naked when the next round started

[scenic narwhal]

Just saying not only against armour. I think part of it is that we don't have enough control in normal stabbing, and no real lunge, so it makes the half sword comparatively better than it should be.

[desert spear]

I got a Willie straight through the head while half swording with a single handed sword once so when it works it's really satisfying

[scenic narwhal]

Also, remember that you can stab with holding alt. I basically never use the double click one

[austere salmon]

this is why i love mein zweihander

[warped apex]

I'm learning how to block one handed weapons I'm meh

[austere salmon]

extended angle

[desert spear]

I always use double click
But alt is more convincing with spears and swords
It's fun

[scenic narwhal]

Alt is better with swords too.

Also, if you switch hands with the two handed sword it'll make you stab lower.

[desert spear]

Wasn't a zweihander a really big sword and stuff

[jade pulsar]

i didn't capture naked willy but it happened

[lethal crag]

LOL thats amazing

[desert spear]

Or am I getting it wrong

[jade pulsar]

bros cheeks were out

[desert spear]

Oh ye I knew that one
I like stabbing Willie in the crotch

[austere salmon]

5-7 feet in height usually

[desert spear]

Woa that's tall

[austere salmon]

aye

[mental kelp]

alt diminished cut at the beginning (kinda missed it), alt extended cut to the head at the end

[shell bronze]

low damage feels actually so brutal

[desert spear]

Yeah I'm not smart enough to understand these techniques

[shell bronze]

you know you're not gonna die from nicks and stabs so you can literally go all in and tank hits to commit to brutalizing your opponent

i forgot i used to actually fight like this

[warped apex]

hiding didn't work

[austere salmon]

here's one of my favorite techniques with a greatsword

[desert spear]

WAIT
r u using kenzog's shaders?

[scenic narwhal]

Even on normal damage I'm a high risk player

[desert spear]

OOOO
That was cool :3

[warped apex]

no just using the camera

[desert spear]

Ah Oki :3

[austere salmon]

with swords, you can use the pommel to sweep shields out of your way and cleave with the tip

[desert spear]

Oo

[scenic narwhal]

One good one is to get your half sword behind their neck (like an evil hug) and pull... Head may come off in the process.

[shell bronze]

on normal damage i zip around and parry everything or die trying

[desert spear]

I usually just run around then until I can get inside and I hit them over and over till one of us dies

[warped apex]

I just like taking photos

[austere salmon]

i use techniques from the old german manuals, its a very defensive style based off of ripostes and quick, flensing hits

[desert spear]

I actually beat the baron believe it or not

[shell bronze]

you can go for some ballsy gameplay with low damage

less about not getting hit and more about not getting mauled

[desert spear]

Ooo

[shell bronze]

congrats

[desert spear]

I'm gonna do it again cuz I got to that point today

[scenic narwhal]

I would've had him in about 5 seconds

[shell bronze]

i like to style on people

otherwise i go in and just cleave something off

[desert spear]

I used the goedendag

It was fun

I broke their necks on one hit

[austere salmon]

average round of carnage

[desert spear]

Ooo

[shell bronze]

goedendag actually isn't too good with low damage

[desert spear]

Looks cool

[shell bronze]

it relies on bleed and nicks

[desert spear]

Oh I was on normal damage

[shell bronze]

oh that makes sense

normal+ damage it mauls

[desert spear]

I just kept swinging until I hit someone

Then I threw it on the ground ran around and picked it up again

[austere salmon]

i play on VERY high damage

[desert spear]

Since they can actually stab themselves if they step on it

[shell bronze]

most interesting plancon gameplay

[small needle]

The fucking Baron just whooped my ass with ym damage on the lowest option

[small needle]

Who on EARTH is this fella

[desert spear]

Oo that's what I did

[shell bronze]

it's the best thing to do if you just want to beat the game

take the nearest most front-heavy polearm and whack

[desert spear]

I put it between their legs so they couldn't move

[desert spear]

Yea :3

[desert spear]

Willie

[shell bronze]

very challenging gameplay, had me worried the whole time

[desert spear]

Last name

Afton

[small needle]

Willie is fucking cooking me

[desert spear]

This is one of the few times half swording helped me because I was knocking them out in 2-3 hits

[shell bronze]

half swording that thing is genuinely vicious

[desert spear]

Also

[wise canyon]

We need morning star pommeled estocs and to be able to mordhau

[desert spear]

Might be controversial but I think daggers r better than any short weapon in the game

[shell bronze]

the daggers are fun

[desert spear]

Wait what

[small needle]

Willie just fucking bypassed my armor

cut right through it

[shell bronze]

you can do egregious stuff like this @desert spear

both clips had max damage to player and half npc on

[desert spear]

Loo

I usually use one on both hands and get super close so they have no way of defending themselves

It's so fun

[wise canyon]

An estoc is a very thin sword used more for stabbing than slicing, specifically used against 1600’s armour in duels, and some of them had spiked ball pommels specifically used for mordau (where you use the pommel of your sword like a club)

[desert spear]

I stab them straight through always

[shell bronze]

you can also bait them into attacking to get openings for a stab

because once the knife goes in they lock up and die

a lot of the wins in this game is about baiting and finding openings

[desert spear]

Ohh yea yea I know that
I heard about it on one of those HEMA fights

[shell bronze]

that's how you beat commoner boss (who people complain about being extremely hard and/or cheese with pitchfork)

[desert spear]

I love historical weaponry

[wise canyon]

Also estocs just look really cool. They lead to rapiers I believe

[desert spear]

Oh YEAHHH
I do this thing where I run towards them
Then back down
Then keep running
It's so funny

[desert spear]

Yea

I downloaded a mod that has one

The stabbing is so good

Like piercing a sheet of paper

[wise canyon]

There’s a
I’d for them in blade and sorcery too. So much fun, just slides right in with zero resistance

Mod*

[shell bronze]

that's right

run at them for a split second, then back away

get the timing right and you win 90% of unarmored fights

[desert spear]

Yea

[shell bronze]

no parrying needed

i literally parry only for style points

[desert spear]

I don't really know how to parry

I just don't have those kinds of reflexes

[shell bronze]

it's not too important but it becomes a given skill once you learn how to swing your weapon

[desert spear]

But I'm getting a little bit better with swords so maybe I'll learn eventually

[wise canyon]

Press F when their arms move

[shell bronze]

it's not 100% about reflexes as much as it is about combining movement and weapon placement

[shell bronze]

let me send you some clips

[desert spear]

I mean yea but that drains all my stamina

[desert spear]

Ohhhh

[wise canyon]

Do more cardio

[shell bronze]

enemies usually only swing in set directions or try to stab/half sword you

[desert spear]

Ohh ok ok hold on I think I know how parrying is

[shell bronze]

once you get the general idea of where their swords might go you can start to learn what should be parried and what footwork saves you from

[desert spear]

Whenever u change stances Ur sword does this thing where it's like
On a protective position right?

[shell bronze]

no don't rely on that it sucks

it turns off when they swing at you for whatever reason

[desert spear]

I can't

Wait is that jesus

On Ur pfp

Oh

40k

[wise canyon]

It’s implied in the lore that he was Jesus yes

[desert spear]

Yea I heard about that

I hate the emperor

[wise canyon]

How dare you

[desert spear]

I hate everyone in 40k really

[wise canyon]

Least controversial take on 40k ever because it’s so wrong that it’s not even worth considering

But do tell

[shell bronze]

you can see here that it's about choosing which attacks you can parry and knowing which ones you probably should be backing away from instead while you try to bait another one

[desert spear]

I especially hate space marines tho

Like in general

[wise canyon]

Yeah but why

[desert spear]

They just seem like pricks

All of them

[wise canyon]

You obviously know nothing of the salamanders

[desert spear]

I hate them too

[shell bronze]

bro hates 40k

[wise canyon]

Are you just rage baiting?

[desert spear]

I hate humans

I just like orcs cuz they're silly

[wise canyon]

Well then you'd love the Eldar

[honest thorn]

Could sworn the weeb was a tau lover

[mental kelp]

here is a couple paragraphs on reading the opponent and using alt to parry also

holy embed

[desert spear]

Nono
I mean I do like humans in 40k but I find it difficult to like characters cuz I'm stupid

[mental kelp]

why does it put the whole message

I thought it just links

[wise canyon]

Ciaphas Cain man, look him up

[desert spear]

I would rather put a gun in my mouth than say I like them

[desert spear]

Ooooo

[honest thorn]

Salamanders are one of the few space Marine chapters who aren't dickheads

[desert spear]

I know that guy

He's silly

And

[honest thorn]

Even space wolves are asshats in comparison

[wise canyon]

And probably the most widely relatable character in 40k

[wise canyon]

They are but just because they're crass and crude. But they genuinely care for ordinary humans almost as much as the Salamanders

[honest thorn]

Yeh, so I've read

[desert spear]

True
I don't really hate them because of how they are I should clarify
I hate their colour scheme
Or rather don't like
Hate is a badly chosen word for everything I've said so far so sorry

[honest thorn]

Don't need to apologize

[wise canyon]

Well I mean, you have literally every colour combination of space marines in 40k so, take your pick

[honest thorn]

This server is known for wonton ragebait

[wise canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/thewontons-gasp-all-new-gif-14723914

[desert spear]

I just don't like green and fire stuff much
I'd rather them be a fiery orange or straight up red

[wise canyon]

Then you have the Fire Drakes, Exorcisors, World Eaters to name a few that are orange or red

[desert spear]

Oo ye

[wise canyon]

Also, bloke likes orks but doesn't like green. Worst ork lover ever

[desert spear]

I do like green tho

I just don't think it goes well with fire

[wise canyon]

"I jsut don't like green and fire stuff much"

[wise canyon]

What about green fire?

[desert spear]

Then yes

[wise canyon]

Then if you get into the models, paint the fire green and say it's some custom recipe of promethium

[desert spear]

Omg

Ok that's actually a great idea

Sounds fun

OH I SHOULD DRAW A SALAMANDER WITH GREEN FIRE

oh and also

I have a confession

[warped apex]

Bad meme lol

[wise canyon]

40k has soooooo much canonical wriggle room. You can kinda do anything you want in the universe

[desert spear]

I was being silly....
I donyhate humans or space marines (I don't the emperor tho)
I said it cuz I thought it'd be funi

[desert spear]

Wait

Oh my I had an idea

[wise canyon]

Why do you not like Big E?

[desert spear]

Mainly because of how he treated angron and the other primarchs

[wise canyon]

Okay, allow me to info dump. Give me about 15 minutes

[desert spear]

I know he had all these visions and he was using them as tools for the greater good or whatever but that doesn't justify what he did to angron

[honest thorn]

Kinda like how there's that certain type of hellfire round that has mutagenic chemicals to it, makes it effective against tyranids iirc

Could be fire but with that property

[fierce acorn]

i love e

[quiet ferry]

buh

mr president get down

[desert spear]

Woa

[wise canyon]

My message was too long...

[fierce acorn]

oh

[wise canyon]

Tyranids still adapted to it though haha

[honest thorn]

Laame

[wise canyon]

@desert spear read it bra

[honest thorn]

If not for necrons existing tyranids would sweep the galaxy id wager

[wise canyon]

Chaos too

[honest thorn]

I thought they could still get biomass off chaos tho

[wise canyon]

Though the Nids are adapting to Chaos, you can't adapt to limitless imagination

[wise canyon]

Not off of daemons

[honest thorn]

That's fair

[wise canyon]

Did anyone read it or did I type an essay for nothing 😂

[quiet ferry]

what is the willie supposed to do in this situation

[mental kelp]

Win

[fierce acorn]

what situation

[wise canyon]

He's gonna buckle under than pressure

[mental kelp]

this disarm was so tuff

both a squinter and a disarm in one

[spring rampart]

just cut both of a guys hands off in one swing in uc

[fierce acorn]

unarmed combat? how the fuck did you manage !

[spring rampart]

ultimate challenge

[fierce acorn]

ik

[spring rampart]

ultimate challenge feels like playtest physics

it sucks

[fierce acorn]

k

[quiet ferry]

ow

ouchie

[wet orchid]

When multiplayer

[muted dew]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-19451148

[wet orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096129825141444749/1365514487968436355/attachment-95.gif

[muted dew]

https://tenor.com/view/weegee-embed-fail-gif-1716204501321330865

Im sorry but thems the rules when embed failure

[waxen lance]

Armor

[mental kelp]

willie is too ez

https://tenor.com/view/thor-best-you-can-do-is-that-the-best-you-can-gif-10494526

[gaunt sapphire]

your parries are not cool until they actually parry with max damage

[waxen lance]

what

[latent moon]

i missed my slash and somehow did the most flashy stab ive ever seen

[gaunt sapphire]

set "damage to player" to max value and then parry

if u actually parry without damage then ur cool

[waxen lance]

ok bud

you keep thinkin that

[gaunt sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914578216818200626/1278793399167750166/im_like_a_wolf_so_malicious-1.gif

[latent moon]

i cant wait for one of those videos titled like "historians look at half sword weapons" and they see the combat and just have a stroke

[mental kelp]

It’s not a parry if you take damage manshits

[gaunt sapphire]

exactly

[elfin smelt]

this shit is too funny for anyone to pass by and not see lmao

[feral lily]

I think

I may have got him

Potentially

[shell bronze]

2h axe try not to be overpowered challenge (impossible)

[shell bronze]

this is with literally minimum damage to NPCs and players alike

[wispy bobcat]

yeah i literally made a vid on how stupid it is to use them lmao

[wispy bobcat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM1jM5PY-2g&t=12s

[shell bronze]

ikr

somehow this fuckass axe is overpowered

[mint gust]

poor guy was so locked in his lower half kept walking after being sliced in 2

[wispy bobcat]

the polar opposite of geeked

[waxen lance]

I wouldnt engage with stupid

[waxen lance]

why are you 6'10

[wispy bobcat]

@lethal crag balatro reference

[wispy bobcat]

it just happens sometimes 😎

(im not)

[mint gust]

HE JUST WALKED BACK HES TRYING TO RECONNECT

HE HASNT GIVEN UP YET

[finite river]

Blood for blood ahh

[wispy bobcat]

give him the mending syringe from people playground

[mint gust]

im about to commence surgery

nvm hes running away

from his own body

[mint gust]

i cant make this up

im fucking dying

[waxen lance]

oh shit m00's found out about swords

we're fucking done for

[mint gust]

i reconnected the legs and torso for just a moment ( too quick for a picture ) and his eyes jolted open and his torsos alive now

what the fuck is going on 😭

[waxen lance]

I do not think half sword willie can close his eyes

[candid walrus]

Anyone else miss being able to kick swords off of people’s backs?

[crude path]

fun little glitch i discovered :D

[shell bronze]

welcome to the land of longsword

[mint gust]

idk bro his torso just woke up after i killed it and hes begging to spare him

i think willies possesed

[true zealot]

how i look at the random in the parking lot after i eat their car keys

[shell bronze]

half sword on low damage is something else entirely

[wise canyon]

'Ah, here we see the '
Anfallsschaukel or, Siezure Swing, taught by Johan Voss. This game has done it's research'

[devout cosmos]

guys how do i parry poperly im so bad 😭

[fast kindle]

No amount of theoretical advice will outweigh 2-3 hours of practice

[devout cosmos]

i have 13 hours of playtime

[fast kindle]

It's all very abstract

Everyone finds their own explanation

"Put your weapon in the way of his weapon" until it doesn't fucking work

[fast kindle]

And?

[devout cosmos]

pretty sure im the problem

[fast kindle]

People have hundreds and are still ass at the game

[fast kindle]

You are but you are capable of improving

Unless you have a learning disability

[devout cosmos]

i may or may not have one

[fast kindle]

You don't

[dense mantle]

disarm strat is so hard to get off but looks so fucking cool

[wise canyon]

If I die in the ultimate challenge is my progress saved or do I go all the way back down to beggar rank/

[shell bronze]

saves

you'll be fine

[wise canyon]

Ah sweet

[dense mantle]

luv me a good shield beating. ive been punching the FUCK out of people recently.

[shell bronze]

it's fun

but for disarming i usually just remove their arm

except for this one time i did ts

[sharp sand]

Has anyone beaten the abyss mode?

[shell bronze]

lower sensitivity and fully learn the way your weapon of choice swings/moves in order to use it against the opponent + learn how to use footwork to your advantage

[mental kelp]

This is real

It doesn’t take that long to learn the game it only takes a mind that can think of what you are doing wrong and fix it, usually takes like two minutes or sm shit

Two minutes built up for each little thing you learn, and then you don’t have to spend time on new things you just do them because they are easy

And also just read shit because knowing real concepts of fencing will tell you how to play the game

[sharp sand]

I just beat the abyss mode and my game fucking crashed

Never been so disappointed in my life

[shell bronze]

that's right

people will spend hundreds of hours flailing left and side and charging brainlessly

which, granted, does work half the time

but it's like throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what sticks

i used to be the same way, just flailing wildly until i die or the other guy does

[midnight jasper]

im still very bad with any kind of swords, good enough with polearms and blunt weapons\axes (though axes seem to be unbalanced)

two arm swords high range of motion is good but for me, without experience, is less predictable than other types of weapons

[shell bronze]

the two handed swords have a very high skill floor

vs the more guided and straightforward way the polearms are

for some reason playing longsword in soldier is so much easier than commoner

[midnight jasper]

you gave him a hand lol

[shell bronze]

ikr lmao

decaps are easy if your gore is on max and you know how/where to swing

[midnight jasper]

commoners seem more aggressive for me..... and i hate commoner champion....

[shell bronze]

commoner boss is fun

punishes you for anything high risk

best thing to do is to cheese him with pitchfork or use timing and footwork

promise you he's very easy either path you choose and get good at

[little plover]

Pitchfork is so braindead its fun

[shell bronze]

pitchfork is literally just murder everything that can be stabbed from the front

that damn thing takes me to veteran

[little plover]

I usually just run at them

Its risky but fun

Hate playing against it in ultimate tho

[boreal widget]

I usually drop pitchfork after beating commoner

[little plover]

Same

[shell bronze]

no reason to drop it i keep the thing until after this guy

[boreal widget]

the one time I used it in militia, I lost extremely one-sidedly

[long briar]

How to play it on android

[shell bronze]

never

get a decent pc

[shell bronze]

it needs distance control

only works for poking

[long briar]

Ok

[little plover]

Or running straight into them

[shell bronze]

but man the pitchfork is VERY good at its job and is a great early game demonstration of why polearms are the historical meta

after i switch from pitchfork i just use this polearm all the way to ultimate challenge

[midnight jasper]

reach is just so good

[little plover]

How are u hitting so accurately lol

[shell bronze]

half sword has many ways to achieve victory and this is unironically the most braindead easy way i recommend to new players before they move on to more weapon types

[midnight jasper]

so good controls, woah

[boreal widget]

I cheesed my way through knight with the plancon

[shell bronze]

plancon

the worst weapon to fight against

[midnight jasper]

plancon\gudendag

[boreal widget]

yeah I just farmed points with it and switched to knight when I had 9

[shell bronze]

most braindead ass weapon to use

@boreal widget

it's so free

[boreal widget]

it gives you the advantage in mid-range and close-range scenarios

it’s practically a perfect weapon

[shell bronze]

the only counter is another polearm

or if you're me and hate it with an undying passion

[boreal widget]

one time I was doing ultimate challenge and two guys with plancons came at me

[shell bronze]

and hatred ALWAYS finds a way

i bring commoner into militia for this very reason.

[tight isle]

do u have a shader on or does cinematic just look like that

[shell bronze]

no i play on high dx12

[shell bronze]

nightmare scenario

[boreal widget]

I don’t remember what weapon I had but the range on it wasn’t too good

[fierce acorn]

schlaf sword

[shell bronze]

had to fight 3 a few days ago

[fierce acorn]

[fierce acorn]

damn

[boreal widget]

the opening they give you when turning around to each other helps a little

[shell bronze]

that's why carnage sometimes feels cheap

you hit them when they're distracted

[boreal widget]

or just wait until only one is left

[shell bronze]

i usually try to jump them all at once

otherwise it's just a mass murder clip

[boreal widget]

maybe they should change carnage to have it so the one with the most kills wins

[boreal widget]

that way standing idly by is discouraged

[shell bronze]

or just have ai randomly start prioritizing you

[rough matrix]

how you set the cut on the shielded man at the start?

highleft guard with rush?

[shell bronze]

guard forward and slightly to the left

because he was a mace user it didn't matter too much if i got close and personal

[rough matrix]

damn it's sitting like butter under the arm

[shell bronze]

at worst i'd just get a bruise and a red screen for a bit

which is to say don't give mace users any breathing room because they're easiest to kill

[shell bronze]

just gotta get used to the way polearms swing

[fierce acorn]

thats how i play carnage 70% of the tim :(

[shell bronze]

it's easier to be accurate with those than any other weapon in this game

it follows a nice guided cone of movement rather than being free motion

with the reach simply solidifying the absolute advantage and simple effectiveness these weapons offer

[boreal widget]

can’t really blame you since the game encourages that behavior

[shell bronze]

it's just the nature of a free for all

no matter the game

[rough matrix]

tbh the worst carnage is on the start when u got the smallknife

[shell bronze]

that one is actually not bsd

[rough matrix]

it's most difficult setup to do anything

[shell bronze]

what you're gonna do is hold alt and run at the first guy

and time your stab perfectly to hit him

[rough matrix]

Dude big knifes are cutting like sword

and im not even joking

[shell bronze]

then repeat with next guy

[midnight jasper]

thats most consistent carnage for me

just stab stab stab (and slash two handed)

[shell bronze]

exactly

it's also the best way to start your ultimate challenge

[rough matrix]

Prison life simulator

[shell bronze]

apply every skill you learned against (basically) mini bosses all the way to baron

because each guy you fight is one or more tier higher than the gear you get in ultimate challenge

[midnight jasper]

im facing milita champ first time, wish me good luck

[rough matrix]

i mean u can kill everyone to the baron using only pithfork tbh

[shell bronze]

in theory yeah

[rough matrix]

in practice too

[shell bronze]

but when the armor starts coming out you'll have to resort to pitiful face slaps

[rough matrix]

ther's a guy on youtube maked video doing this

[midnight jasper]

oooh plancon guy.... aand he is dead

[midnight jasper]

5 seconds and his throat got new hole

[shell bronze]

so usually unless i want to try to be cool i literally cannot be bothered to use anything but a polearm

one simple swipe does the trick everywhere every time

[rough matrix]

0:016 why no secondside swing ;-;

[midnight jasper]

so, ultimate challenge is like abyss but not exactly?

[rough matrix]

its harder

abyss gives you healing

and not crashing that much

In ultimate challenge you fighting enemies frames per seconds and crashes

[little plover]

Do u have any special settings u use like fov or something

[fierce acorn]

good luck

[shell bronze]

i'm not good enough with polearms to have that built into me yet

[shell bronze]

i max fov out to not get jumped in carnage and that's about it

[fierce acorn]

help

i hit my ulnar nerve

[shell bronze]

my sensitivity is low enough to allow for both weapon control and strong swings at the same time

[shell bronze]

worse

you don't get the mercy of world gear drops and have to start with a fuckass knife to fight people who are always one tier higher than you

[little plover]

Okay thanks

[midnight jasper]

oof

[fierce acorn]

you starat with a weapo??

[shell bronze]

who grow in numbers until you have to fight 4 at once (all veteran to man at arms)

[shell bronze]

yes

[fierce acorn]

i just used my fists

weird

[shell bronze]

there's a knife on the floor like first boss fight

[fierce acorn]

do you pick it up

ohhh

[shell bronze]

yes

[fierce acorn]

ok

[shell bronze]

there's always that knife

[fierce acorn]

👍

[shell bronze]

and honestly ultimate challenge is harder at the first half than the second half