Garry's Mod

[lament quartz]

Unfortunate i suppose lol

[subtle bison]

the best way to "fix" this is what i did for one level in the portal2 rtx project

re-render all static elements of a map with remix instead

and then disable engine rendering to re-coop the performance

[lament quartz]

So like

[modern quest]

ZLUDA was doing that for a while. hopefully they can get back to the point they were at

[lament quartz]

Export them as some sorta model for remix to import and then disable the rendering for entities in engine?

[subtle bison]

i have yet to find a single app that works with it

[modern quest]

not the current version of it

the older version

[subtle bison]

yeah
#1289195427119501424 message (flashing warning in the beginning)

[modern quest]

the current version was forced to reset, because AMD stopped funding the project and said they couldn't use any code that was developed with them

[compact blaze]

ya ik, i mean more like to the point of neural rendering and such

[compact blaze]

and ya this was insane too

idk why like

ughhhhhh

ik theres prob some legal mumbo jumbo there on why it cant happen behind the scenes

[modern quest]

i think it's possible to get there

[compact blaze]

it just hurts ugh

[modern quest]

yup. sucks though

[lament quartz]

Do you think its possible to do that with your blender adding or

[subtle bison]

that was done with it

i rexported a map capture that had all dynamic entities disabled

[upbeat jewel]

the sad thing was that AMD was supporting him on it until they realized there is very little business case in running CUDA on their GPUs, cause they need to set aside some funds for the inevitable lawsuit

AMD should spend the time making ROCm a good product instead imo

and OpenCL

but developers dont want that

[subtle bison]

still waiting for RDNA4 support for rcom on windows...

its been almost 2 months

[upbeat jewel]

💀

[modern quest]

i really, really, really do not think ROCm in its current form will ever be good for consumers

[subtle bison]

its awful

[upbeat jewel]

yeah me neither

[modern quest]

maybe if they throw on some of the cores from Xilinx and use their codebase instead, it'd be useful

it has support for wrapping pytorch and tensorflow

[upbeat jewel]

thats true, the tech they get from Xilinx is so ahead of the curve, but its a completely different market

that was a good purchase tho

[modern quest]

it's included on their mobile chips of all things

but no desktop chips or GPUs

hopefully they do more with it

[upbeat jewel]

there's a lot of non-surface level tech they will bring over, especially in silicon design

memory controllers, etc

but xilinx is very much non-graphics and all interconnect and software oriented

[compact blaze]

from what i understand the mystery backer just wants it to get to a point where it can do gen ai and stuff so idk

[modern quest]

AI data scientists stay in their familiar framework environments, such as PyTorch or TensorFlow, and call pre-built ML overlays by way of Vitis AI without having to directly program the AI Engines.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/adaptive-socs-and-fpgas/technologies/ai-engine.html#developers

[compact blaze]

like just an excuse not to buy nvidia chips it seems

[modern quest]

sure would be nice to have this on desktop

[modern quest]

well, maybe someone else would take over past that point

it's had 3 different sources of funding so far lol

seems like a 4th one isn't unlikely

[upbeat jewel]

Im surprised some AI startup hasn't finished it, if it would net access to GPUs which can do those types of workloads for cheaper

but unless you can do that, hard to justify

especially when the problem doesn't solve a bottom level issue which is that AMD doesn't really have high VRAM cards outside of instinct (Mi350x, etc)

so even if you make it work on GenAI, wheres the memory?

you'd need external memory

[upbeat jewel]

32GB aint really that much when some of these models need 96GB, but yes, an improvement

[subtle bison]

i would buy this immediately if it wouldnt get scalped on day 1

[upbeat jewel]

is the scalping really that bad for AMD stuff like it is NVIDIA too?

[subtle bison]

i paid $150 markup for my RX 9070 😦

[upbeat jewel]

oof

[winter radish]

Very

[winter radish]

We both know it is

MSRP isn’t real anymore

[subtle bison]

a mystical value

[winter radish]

The Intel B580 has never been $250
It’s always been $300+

[winter radish]

It would have been real if AMD still made reference cards 😭

[upbeat jewel]

Mystical Sandollar Roleplay (MSRP)

[winter radish]

At this point, when a company lists MSRP for a GPU, just add $100-$200 to that value

Then you’ll get the real price

[upbeat jewel]

shit that frustrates me is NVIDIA still lists 4xxx series GPUs on their site with the full pricing info knowing full well they aint selling that shit no more

basically laughing at how hard you are getting screwed now

😂

yeah okay

[subtle bison]

this is why i dont get brand loyalty

cuz of this shit right here

[winter radish]

“I had a bad driver experience with AMD 10 years ago”

[subtle bison]

💀

[winter radish]

And then you just barely hear about Intel, it’s always NVIDIA vs AMD that gets the most coverage

[wispy crest]

bc intel is relatively new to the game

none of the 4070 desktops have under 12gb vram

[upbeat jewel]

that new Intel Dual GPU looks cool, too bad it don't play games

clearly they can cook tho

[compact blaze]

nvm im an idiot im on 4060 ti

[wispy crest]

theres a 16gb 4060ti as well lol

[compact blaze]

stop rubbing in my face 💔

[wispy crest]

lol

i upgraded from a 1050ti to a 4070s

[lament quartz]

am i stupid

[subtle bison]

its a cfg file i made with some cvars

[lament quartz]

oooh

im js tryna find the anchor mesh in game rn

[subtle bison]

its hidden by default

turn off enhancements

you can also get the exact location of it with rtx_marker_list

[subtle bison]

🙂

automating the painful hl2rtx mount experience

[compact blaze]

WE LOVE THESE WINS

[subtle bison]

[wispy crest]

will this fix the gray textures, or is it just automatic mounting

[subtle bison]

all of it

the result will be no grey textures

[wispy crest]

oh shit nice

you the goat CR

[subtle bison]

everything completely automated, tested on a brand new install
feel free to skip through most of the vid lol, most of the time is just extracting and copying.
I created a new repo that stores the USDA fixes for broken references, so we can update this in the future, didnt want it hardcoded in the launcher lol
https://github.com/sambow23/rtx-usda-fixes

[turbid barn]

only 32MB total?

[weak ermine]

are u serious my brother

[turbid barn]

no, just joking, дамбасс

Ik that's code only

the question is

[weak ermine]

домбасс

[turbid barn]

why when extracting assets via rtxio you needed to wait several minutes to extract everything manually

and everything was fine

but now we get fixed usda for just gray textures?

that's the only fix? or that means there is no need for extract manually ?

cuz you've said everything completely automated,

[subtle bison]

its does everything needed to get hl2rtx textures and models working out of the box

1. it extracts the assets from the .pkg files
2. it moves the assets to the mod directory
3. it deletes the .pkg files to save space
4. it downloads and applies my fix for broken references (the gray textures)
5. mounts the game to gmod rtx

so 0 user intervention

its all done for you

[subtle bison]

fixed a bunch of models turning invisible, the hl2rtx demo assets should no longer break anything

about to push the launcher update

[subtle bison]

ok so there is some small issues where the legacy asset is overlapped with the new one, it only happens if the mesh uses 2 vertex groups/layers like some foliage and fences. I have to manually fix this, but ill do it later since its pretty minor

i only noticed this on a small amount of assets

https://github.com/Xenthio/RTXLauncher/releases/tag/v1.0.13

🥳

[weak ermine]

heeell yeah

manually select brah brah shit

this is what i need

[weak ermine]

1 map 2 vibes

[winter radish]

Kinda looks like Roblox

[subtle bison]

240p video will do that ☺️

[jade surge]

an issue I'm having in RR is some spots GI is abnormally dark until I turn it off and back on, it happens mainly with ReSTIR and the NRC, and can be actively recreated in real time using the NRC "reset history" button

seems RR is taking what it assumes are fireflies and ditching them leaving not enough data for ReSTIR and the NRC to properly sample GI

[jade surge]

welp I found a solution

if you go to the denoising settings for RR, set the preset to default

"ReSTIR finetuned" causes the issue

well direct light becomes kinda noisy in certain conditions so maybe not, maybe we're just better off ditching all the AI stuff for now

[jade surge]

wait that noise is half my fault for another setting (transformer model D) I forgot to disable, its still got some in motion, but it seems a good chunk of issues I've had with RR otherwise are mainly the cause of that "finetuned" preset

[weak ermine]

the fuck u talking about lol

how the fuck its looks like roblox

[weak ermine]

u want 4k video on 4060?

ill show u 4k video on 4060

[turbid barn]

skill issue

[lapis delta]

fucking skill fucking issue

[weak ermine]

fucking issue with fucking skill

[keen rivet]

Can it just also do the mount normally like old way if you chose so? Also incorrect button height lmao

[subtle bison]

wdym incorrect button height?

them being too tall?

[keen rivet]

Oh maybe high dpi fooling me

Should be 72 wide 21 tall or something

Lol I'm being picky it's not that important

Feel free to ignore

[subtle bison]

yea I can, right now it will only prompt you for .pkg extraction if you haven't done it already. If you havent or the game doesn't use .pkg files, it uses the old method

but ill add a toggle or something to let the user choose

[keen rivet]

I just use the rtx io on method to save space lol

[subtle bison]

i dont personally mind the 15 extra gb of space but yea it makes sense for other folks

idk what the actual compression ratio is for rtxio tho, but the mounter does remove the .pkg files when it's done

[subtle bison]

1080p at least 😭

if my old 2080 could do it, so can your 4060

[weak ermine]

on 720p its suffering lol

[subtle bison]

guh

😟

[weak ermine]

native 720p

🥀

[weak ermine]

top gpu vs budget

skill issue

and idk why but after i record video blurred or why this is so low res

maybe really skill issues

depressed

sad barb simpsos gif

but why this is looks like roblox wtf

where's rob

and blox

in this videos

[subtle bison]

they shouldn't be that different

same vram, much newer architecture

[lapis delta]

bro is "smart"

[weak ermine]

?

[lapis delta]

"top gpu" rtx 2080💔💔

[winter radish]

It's not the same VRAM tho? 11GBs vs 8GBs

2080Ti has more headroom in that regard

oh wait, 2080

my bad

[meager oar]

😅 i checked the benchmarks and wasnt expecting the 4060 to be 7 fps behind the 2080 bruh

[weak ermine]

u serious?

of course i mean in 20 series

"smart"

[lapis delta]

bro, you compared different series of video cards, like hell nah

[weak ermine]

who the fuck in the world will say that 2080 is top gpu IN 2025 YEAR

bro u think im really that stupid?

[lapis delta]

хм, дай подумать

[weak ermine]

stfu🥀

[weak ermine]

💔

[lapis delta]

💔🥀

[subtle bison]

whar

[near tartan]

даже не было таким уж оскорблением 😭

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[earnest yew]

portal prelude

https://tenor.com/view/mastrix-gif-22017301

[subtle bison]

gotta add whatever source engine rtx games that exist 🤓

[lapis delta]

is that gmod?

[earnest yew]

is this the last of us part 2

[subtle bison]

yes

its the l4d2 mansion map or whatever its called

did a reference mode bake

looks delicious 🤤

[earnest yew]

a what what what

[subtle bison]

denoiser reference mode + accumulation. its like cycles for remix

set a sample count and let it render

[earnest yew]

is dlss set on quality

[subtle bison]

full resolution

[earnest yew]

yummay

[subtle bison]

I'd do 4K but im game streaming it so that's why its 1080p

[earnest yew]

game streaming?

[subtle bison]

yea im streaming my pc at home from work

[earnest yew]

gay

[weak ermine]

bruh

[keen rivet]

What are the usda fixes?

I reckon if they are what I think they are they could still be applied

[subtle bison]

hl2rtx demo has a lot of references to assets that dont exist, causing invisible models and grey textures

[subtle bison]

ye i undid this

[keen rivet]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

had a brainfart

[keen rivet]

Lol

[subtle bison]

@willow fog

this was a huge pain, i dont even know if it works yet

[willow fog]

Make a test scene NOW

@kind kraken Get your ass in here. We have an emergency

[kind kraken]

What

WHAT THE FUCK

GIVE IT TO ME

[willow fog]

The mother fucking a g x

[lament quartz]

agx?

[kind kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/choking-gif-18241023091515446173

Give it now

Or violence will occur

[lament quartz]

what does agx look like in comparison to the other models

[subtle bison]

it does not work correctly yet lmao

[kind kraken]

Give it to me.... When it's working

[subtle bison]

i think this is appropriate

[lament quartz]

what does AGX do normally

[willow fog]

Look good

[subtle bison]

@lament quartz
https://github.com/MrLixm/AgXc/raw/main/doc/images/dragon.full.combined.jpg

https://github.com/MrLixm/AgXc

its way better at handling highlights

[willow fog]

So clean

🤤

[subtle bison]

yea agx is gonna be a fuckin pain

it handles exposure inputs a lot differently

why did i explore this, its too late to stop 😭

[willow fog]

Finish the job, child
-Your father

I asked him

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/dame-da-ne-guy-john-yakuza-yakuza-yakuza-kiwami-2-kiryu-gif-10174494784702734779

[lament quartz]

huh

[subtle bison]

wow that was fast

doesnt look half bad, obviously it has to be tweaked per game, but wow

[kind kraken]

give it to me

https://tenor.com/view/choking-gif-18241023091515446173

[subtle bison]

im not really done with it but sure lol

[kind kraken]

o

[subtle bison]

@willow fog have fun

[kind kraken]

what is it missing

[willow fog]

What

[subtle bison]

some other adjustments, also the implementation is a little simple, i wanna base it off the AgXc repo i posted earlier

its much fancier

[willow fog]

But does it actually work?

[subtle bison]

yea look at the video above

#1116089843479498782 message

just needed some agx-specific gamma and exposure adjustments

[kind kraken]

i see a saturation slider <3

[subtle bison]

so i added them as seperate controls for the user

tweaked agx (left) vs ACES (right)

🤤

[willow fog]

Holy shit

Agx is real

[subtle bison]

im just glad i dont have to do this shit in reshade anymore

agx (left) vs aces (right)

you can really see the difference here

here is an imgsli
https://imgsli.com/Mzg1MTI2

[willow fog]

This so peak

I'm uh

Gonna spread this

[subtle bison]

🙂

[willow fog]

I wonder what the agx presets are. Stuff like punchy and different contrast levels

[kind kraken]

does this go in the .trex folder

[subtle bison]

ye

[kind kraken]

before - AgX - AgX tweaked

[willow fog]

Peak

[kind kraken]

ACES vs tweaked AgX

huge difference with my flashlight. The gun is no longer blasted into exposure hell

@willow fog we're so back

[willow fog]

Holy shit

[kind kraken]

remix is saved

[willow fog]

It actually looks natural now

[subtle bison]

yea AgX just casually transforming entire maps in gmod rtx

it looks less video-gamey

[willow fog]

We're so back, chat

[kind kraken]

the flashlight alone is a game changer visually. It was a big deal implementing it in my project since it was planned for the original but cut. But it always was in the back of my head how annoying the gun being blindingly bright was. Now, God has blessed us and his name is CR

[willow fog]

"NOOO BURRITO YOU DON'T GET IIIIT. AGX IS NOT INDUSTRY STANDAAAARD"

Mf

[kind kraken]

who said that

[willow fog]

No one in particular

Just the vibe I got

[subtle bison]

I plan to add some extra controls so we can tweak it further

since every game might need a specific "look"

[kind kraken]

with some overall exposure tweaks

@subtle bison what's the difference between the exposure below and the one for AgX

[willow fog]

Can looks be implemented?

[subtle bison]

one controls global exposure, one is the offset for agx itself

[subtle bison]

i should probably unify them

[subtle bison]

should be able to? hopefully the presets can be directly applied to my implementation

[willow fog]

yeah

[subtle bison]

no guarantees though

[willow fog]

Would be epic fr

like

super cool and stuff

Like y'know

@subtle bison doesn't seem to be properly implemented tho. This bright light should become pretty desaturated

Aces does it right

kinda

[subtle bison]

the ver i sent is fairly basic, and the default settings may not be correct for your game

so you'll have to adjust AgX a bit for it to work correctly

[willow fog]

I just ramped the gamma up

Aces AGX

[subtle bison]

aces colors always look like ass

[willow fog]

OOOOOOOHHHHHHHH

NOOOOOOO

CR

[subtle bison]

😦

[willow fog]

Unfortunately

It's cooked

[subtle bison]

how

[willow fog]

ACES AGX

mmmmmmmm

That ain't right

AGX shouldn't create those messed up highlights

[subtle bison]

the issue is that you're directly comparing the two without changing anything i assume

[willow fog]

No I am

[subtle bison]

i said it like 3 times you will have to manually adjust stuff to make it look correct

[willow fog]

I upped the gamma

I said

I did

[subtle bison]

guh i am not getting those artifacts

this is what im using in gmod

[willow fog]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Fuckkkkk

[subtle bison]

also auto wasnt having any issues after tweaking theirs to fit lol

[willow fog]

It's not that it LOOKS wrong

It may look fine

But it sure ain't doing the one thing it's best at

Handling saturated highlights

[subtle bison]

but it is for me 💀

either way, ill make it more consistent lol

its still early

just chill

[willow fog]

Just uh

Showing around

[subtle bison]

ACES vs AgX with the settings i posted

[willow fog]

Same setup

Okay

MAAAAAAAAAYBE

[subtle bison]

uncle burrito when inconvenience:

[willow fog]

Okay uh

@subtle bison do you have legacy aces disabled in your comparisons?

[subtle bison]

yes

[willow fog]

Yeah legacy aces gives me similar crunching

[subtle bison]

i dont have the checkbox but im pretty sure i set it in my rtx.conf

[willow fog]

Double check pls

[subtle bison]

whoops

[subtle bison]

i eep for tn, ill continue working on it sometime tomorrow. Ideally i want to fully implement AgXc

its way nicer 🤤

[willow fog]

Legacy ACES VS AGX

Right now it seems to not be working correctly

Hopefully cr can do what cr does

[kind kraken]

looking forward to it boss. Glad any attempt is being made

[meager oar]

How does skybox look with agx, is it still washed out?

[willow fog]

Should be, yes

[copper dagger]

this is what it looks for me with AgX Tonemap (left) vs ACES (right)

[modern quest]

all of the screenshots i've seen so far with AgX, it looks very washed out

[copper dagger]

what you mean by washed out?

[modern quest]

it's too bright in areas that really shouldn't be. black levels are not black, they're gray

ACES was too heavy with it, but AgX is too light

[copper dagger]

you know you can tweak that in AgX do you?

[modern quest]

yes. i just find it curious that everyone is comparing tuned ACES with untuned AgX

it just looks kinda... bad without it

[copper dagger]

aces looks bad

[modern quest]

and so does AgX here imo

[willow fog]

It's pretty much broken rn

Wait for cr to cook

[copper dagger]

thats with my current settings

[willow fog]

Yeah no it's kinda garbage

Use the fixed aces instead

[copper dagger]

uhm no

too dark

way too dark

[willow fog]

Just increase the exposure

[copper dagger]

uhm no

fuck aces

[willow fog]

Yes but

[copper dagger]

i rather use no tonemap

[willow fog]

Agx is literally broken

Have you tried the new fixed aces yet?

[modern quest]

i get that you hate ACES but AgX here is 100% not working right lol

[willow fog]

#1116089843479498782 message
fixed aces vs current agx. You can see severe color crushing

[copper dagger]

with aces

[willow fog]

No, you have to enable the fixed aces in the conf

[copper dagger]

oh, you mean legacy?

[willow fog]

This is the one you're currently using

And this is the new one

[copper dagger]

and which config?

[willow fog]

Same settings

[willow fog]

rtx.conf
rtx.useLegacyACES = False

[copper dagger]

just adding that line right?

[willow fog]

yes

[modern quest]

Legace

is that right? lol

[copper dagger]

XD

should be Legacy

[willow fog]

ahhhhhh

fixed it

[hasty sonnet]

@subtle bison how does gmod rtx fail to load like this

like i want a fix

[copper dagger]

hmm... didnt do anything

[copper dagger]

gets deleted from remix

so it doesnt work

[willow fog]

Well clearly it works for me soooooooooooo

Skill issue?

[copper dagger]

when remix itself deletes it?

[willow fog]

Doesn't do it for me

Do you have the latest remix?

[copper dagger]

it could be caused by the remix version i use. i use latest from dxvk-remix fork

[willow fog]

Uhhhh

That should be it.

[weak ermine]

gmod without rtx

[meager oar]

aces/agx

[subtle bison]

slowmode is back yay

also yall chill with the agx stuff, many people have told me its not implemented correctly so i wouldn't compare anything atm

[wispy crest]

we are punished with slow mode when we discuss

[modern quest]

it's not punishment

it's precaution

you guys do some cursed shit here

[wispy crest]

nooo

we're innocent

[modern quest]

maybe you are

lol

[hasty sonnet]

i would like not to speak in paragraphs

[modern quest]

5 seconds does not lead to a paragraph lol

[hasty sonnet]

nuh uh

[onyx ridge]

deltarune... tomorrow

[willow fog]

We're being supressed

A revolution is underway

[meager oar]

[kind kraken]

I'll have you know my comparisons did have AgX tweaked

[modern quest]

i didn't see yours at all

[kind kraken]

@modern quest I get it, you just hate me ik

I took a handful of shots and even if AgX is broke in some way there are clear improvements over ACES

[modern quest]

i know properly implemented AgX can be good. this implementation definitely still has some issues though

it's muting colors that really shouldn't be muted

yours at least doesn't mess with black levels as much

[kind kraken]

Stock AgX is typically less contrasty with color out of the box. That's why you always see comparisons with variants like "punchy AgX" where it's tuned to be more like ACES but with the superior representations of color and lack of blown out highlights

[modern quest]

i've never been a fan of AgX tbh, but when tuned properly i do like it more than ACES

but all of the pics of the current version in remix don't look good to me at all

[willow fog]

Nah, even when tweaked, it's simply not working. Saturated highlights get blown out in all cases

[modern quest]

ik CR is working on it still. not judging his work

[willow fog]

They should desaturate

[modern quest]

that's what i was saying

[willow fog]

yeah exactly

[modern quest]

welllll why'd you repeat it then lol

[willow fog]

Yes, it's working, but auto's scenes lack any saturated brights

[willow fog]

This was for auto mostly

But I'm stupid so I pinged you instead

dw about it

[modern quest]

okay

i'm stupid too

[willow fog]

[meager oar]

Punchy Agx 😍 tats what i use in space engine, its very good better then normal agx for me

[subtle bison]

so even if i improve the implementation, would yall prefer the defaults to be punchy? @kind kraken @modern quest @willow fog

[willow fog]

Leave it at base tbh

Because well. It's the base

[modern quest]

i'd like them not to be totally neutral like it currently is

because it's just not really good to use it that way

just config it for good defaults and let people adjust it if necessary

[willow fog]

Yep

[subtle bison]

got it

[subtle bison]

started work on implementing AgXc, added some new UI elements too
cant validate if its any better yet as im gamestreaming this to a laptop with a shitty TN display

[kind kraken]

If you do printscreen could you upload it to discord on the side of the remote PC lmao

[modern quest]

i think the issue is moreso the display lol

[kind kraken]

We could be the judges my phone is OLED

[modern quest]

okay

[subtle bison]

nah i dont wanna play a game of cat and mouse for 6 hours lol

ill keep adding some features and then judge when i get home to my oled lol

[modern quest]

we appreciate your effort and suffering

[subtle bison]

any other adjustments yall can think of?

i really wanna give tonemapper adjustments a glowup

i got burritos AgX Look options

this is a rather extreme example but I think we're getting closer to the intended result?

can somone with a decent screen verify my screenshots lmao

[modern quest]

definitely a lot better

[subtle bison]

they look like two different shades of red for me

it looks better on my phone tho

@willow fog

[modern quest]

the red is different, but it's also blending with the light properly

[willow fog]

Oh yeah

[subtle bison]

punchy look seems to get it a lot closer to default ACES

[willow fog]

That looks right. Based on tons of experience with agx in blender. That's the expected result

[subtle bison]

❤️

direct comparisons should be possible now since you can pretty much adjust AgX independently from ACES to get the desired look

would i be moving goalposts if I wanted to add native HDR support?

🙂

[willow fog]

By a long shot, yes

[modern quest]

massive improvement, i'd def use it now

[subtle bison]

that last comparison really shows AgX's strengths, all of the highlight detail is preserved but still looks decently punchy (compared to ACES and standard)

im in love 🤤

(left: aces, right: agx)
good lawd HDRIs really take advantage of it too

[willow fog]

Do it with the fixed aces?

[subtle bison]

isnt fixed aces just tuned for hl2rtx tho

ill test it tho

agx vs new aces vs standard
(left, middle, right)

new aces is better but it has a weird tint

agx still looks more natural to me

[meager oar]

will u show the values of punchy later so i can adjust the settings to that?

[willow fog]

Standard should be ignored imo. Pretty sure it's just direct srgb mapping

[meager oar]

ohh u already have a preset for tat build in

damn it looks good

[subtle bison]

it actually transforms the agx lookup so there isnt any values that can be input into the UI

i mean it probably could but these are meant to be presets for a reason

you can always tweak the agx values with the preset selected as well

[meager oar]

damn punchy looks great 😍

[subtle bison]

thoughts on agx vs new aces?

or have we reached peak

[willow fog]

Nah. I'm sure agx needs some backend tweaking.

[subtle bison]

like?

[willow fog]

Uh

You'd know. I honestly have no idea how tonemappers do the things they do

[subtle bison]

idk i think its quite decent already. I still need to add the actual blender Look presets, but otherwise im happy

[willow fog]

But you know what would be epic? Implementing reshade directly into dxvk remix. Like some other apps do. With the full precision color buffer access.

I know this is some heavy goalpost flinging but

[subtle bison]

that doesnt sound too hard? in theory at least

maybe also depth while we're at it

[willow fog]

I don't think so. I've seen plenty of apps add reshade as a built-in feature

[compact blaze]

I do feel agx makes things a bit over saturated if that makes sense?

[willow fog]

Because I've never seen reshade being able to access the full high dynamic range image. Post-tonemap

[subtle bison]

you can adjust that, but AgX generally has a different tone

[compact blaze]

Do you think it’d just be a per game type basis?

[subtle bison]

the idea is to give artists more control over it, so im going to leave in punchy defaults, but you can adjust it however you want

hell i even added a monochrome look

[willow fog]

Just add all of them why not

[subtle bison]

ye if i can figure that out, ill add it as a checkbox that disables any post-process and just expose the full raw framebuffer or something

[willow fog]

Yeah. It would be epic. I've been crying for a good pp setup for remix

[wispy crest]

pp

[subtle bison]

pp?

oh post process 🤓

[willow fog]

Get your head out of the gutter

I'm telling ur mom

[subtle bison]

says you of all people

[willow fog]

Tonight. In her bedroom.

[subtle bison]

[kind kraken]

Give files

[subtle bison]

sure ig

lemme set the defaults to what it was in the gmod screenshots

the defaults were made on a shitty TN display so uhh ymmv

heavily recommend adjusting it to your preference

also dont forget to remove the old agx settings in your rtx.conf

[wispy crest]

veerus

[subtle bison]

btw this remix build doesnt have any of the gmod-specific fixes so also ymmv

[subtle bison]

the gmod branch of dxvk-remix is stupidly out of date so i gotta re-do that fork

[willow fog]

Gonna give it a

Nah nvm

I've been running 31 hours no sleep.

[subtle bison]

sleep bro

[willow fog]

I'm fucking dead.

[wispy crest]

where do you even put this lol

[willow fog]

Nah. One more

[subtle bison]

for 32-bit gmod: GarrysMod/bin/.trex
for 64-bit gmod (expect issues): GarrysMod/bin/win64

[willow fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1378916849755881542/d9a1ddcab8683993f4753741676b9ddd.gif

[weak ermine]

what is it

[subtle bison]

what is what

[willow fog]

I feel sleep tugging at me, my eyes half lidded as my breathing gets even.

[subtle bison]

@willow fog
I added them

note sure if its obvious, but blender uses OCIO for the AgX Looks presets. Remix does not support OCIO at all so I have chosen to emulate the looks

so there is a greater than 50% chance they dont match blender at all lmao

[subtle bison]

😉

[kind kraken]

mfw you could use HDR sharpening filters now ez

for a bunch of games I use shaders from a repo called illium's hdr shaders iirc. Basically it uses the HDR framebuffer as its source for applying CAS or RCAS. Looks more natural to me than just using those filters straight up

[subtle bison]

i also plan to send depth data to reshade so i can use some dof effects 🤤

[kind kraken]

okay hackerman

gonna test that last virus zip you made 🙏

[subtle bison]

you will get lots of lovely viruses ❤️

[kind kraken]

if I have look set to none, is that the standard AgX setup?

[subtle bison]

yeah, but it still has some punchy default settings itself

its meant to mirror the legacy ACES look

[kind kraken]

you mean the fixed ACES look?

because I'm not using the fixed one

[subtle bison]

nah non-fixed

[kind kraken]

then wouldn't I expect these two shots to look almost identical

[subtle bison]

well if you've tweaked ACES in a different way than I did, it might look different (or not)

[kind kraken]

I touched nothing at all, just turned off punchy look

every single tonemapping setting is untouched

[subtle bison]

yea, in that case, just start messing with it until you find desirable settings

[kind kraken]

I mean I think "none" already looks pretty slick lol

going off those shots

[subtle bison]

you'll notice a bigger difference with highlights this time around

[kind kraken]

not a fan of punchy though. You weren't kidding when you said it needs adjusting to fit each game. You said this looks good on gmod right?

@sleek mountain yo pete, if I take a capture using a modified runtime would his implementation of a new tonemapper be reflected in the toolkit

if not, are there some files I need to replace within the toolkit's file structure to match the behaviors

[subtle bison]

no

the toolkit uses its own remix runtime

[kind kraken]

so I could swap out the files on that?

[subtle bison]

i forgot the specific file location, but you can just replace the d3d9 file in the folder that contains the runtime

idk if it will inheret the settings though

[subtle bison]

yeah but gmod uses HL2 RTX's existing tonemapping settings, so even for us its customized

[kind kraken]

it's supposed to inherit the rtx conf on a per capture basis

[subtle bison]

it may work then

[subtle bison]

found it, replace the d3d9.dll there

[kind kraken]

someone needs to make a github request for updating all captures to use the latest version of the rtx conf because retaking every capture is pain

[sleek mountain]

if the runtime writes to the capture metadata and/or uses the existing metadata and then you'll need to replace the runtime the toolkit uses

[keen rivet]

Good afternoon gmod rtx chat

[willow fog]

Good afternoon Xenthio from gmod rtx chat

[keen rivet]

hi

[onyx ridge]

is this gmod specific or are you planning to pr this to mainline remix

[hasty sonnet]

i need tonemappers

[subtle bison]

i plan to PR it, but its probably gonna go to a fork first, not gmod specific tho

[subtle bison]

sorry chat i will be gone for the foreseeable future 🤓

[modern quest]

see ya in a few years

[wispy crest]

its over

[wispy crest]

gmod rtx cancelled

[subtle bison]

deltarune rtx when

[weak ermine]

yesterday

lol 25$ for 2d game

[lapis delta]

[steel lark]

real

bro just watch the undertale + deltarune movie instead smh

[subtle bison]

early HDR tests 👀

ok why is obs not capturing my game correctly

[lament quartz]

why it suddenly look like cm2013

[subtle bison]

omg its still keeps bugging out when changing swapchains wtf

[subtle bison]

raw output before tonemapping

the intention is to let reshade do reverse or normal tonemapping so you have full precision for effects

[lament quartz]

hm

i see

[steel lark]

do you guys play with ray reconstruction? i think it consumes way too much fps so i just disable it

perfect

[kind kraken]

[steel lark]

restir? what's that??]

importance sampled (important)

who needs indirect lighting am i right?

[faint sapphire]

Pumbo on the HDR Den discord server is / also intends to work on HDR for Remix. Get in touch with him

He works on Prey Luma mod, DXVK HDR, ReShade AutoHDR, RenoDX and a bunch of other things

[willow fog]

Completely different thing

[kind kraken]

I'd be shocked if there wasn't overlap

[willow fog]

I'm sure there might be but

They're working on different things

[hasty sonnet]

im tweaking

[faint sapphire]

Is it really not the same thing? I’m sure both are the same except for the last part of how to tone map to the display

[willow fog]

No, what cr is trying to do is give reshade access to the full frame buffer before tonemapping so that it can work with all the colors. Really really useful for working with colors.

Outputting an HDR image for display after tonemapping is something completely different.

And I'm pretty sure HDR images are still clamped. So instead of going 0-1, they might go 0-2. (I'm not 100% sure)
The full frame buffer on the other hand is basically unclamped. Brightness values can go from zero to as high as the camera receives.

[faint sapphire]

Yeah but remastering an exisiting game with a HDR mod like RenoDX or Luma does the same thing so you can get more color info other than 8-bit BT.709 SRGB just that RenoDX also is able to tonemap to your display with several options

[compact blaze]

You can disable indirect lighting in the settings directly iirc

[subtle bison]

gm gmod chat

[willow fog]

Gm CR from gmod rtx chat

[lament quartz]

gm cr

[willow fog]

So real

[winter radish]

I find it boosts fps

Remix has a pretty good RR implementation unlike Cyberpunk

I despise RR in Cyberpunk

[willow fog]

Re does actually run faster than nrd

Pretty sure that's a joke post

[willow fog]

uh oh

@subtle bison

[meager oar]

AHHHHHHHHH

[kind kraken]

Hey CR time to get back to work

[earnest yew]

how about that new fortnite season eh

[subtle bison]

[steel lark]

https://tenor.com/view/foenem-saturday-gif-15939126690348960794

happy foenem saturday

[livid rapids]

why is the awp black

and the mp9's mag definitely isn't gray

[weak ermine]

dear valve, why u instead of fixing old 2012 materials, broke them

[weak ermine]

i just ingest cs2 materials for old models

i dont change anything

its valve idea to change awp color

[weak ermine]

old vs new model

mp9 have same model but different material lol

ent_fire weapon_* setbodygroup body,1 for old models body,0 to new

hmm maybe ingest and gloves materials

they looks peak

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-devil-diabolique-evil-gif-9725651736562738158

[livid rapids]

I guess since you can't see them normally they didn't bother applying a tint

[weak ermine]

who knows

[livid rapids]

unless its really compressed you should leave the diffuse maps as is

also old models don't have pbr AFAIK

they still use phong/envmap

[weak ermine]

huh

the fuck u talking about bro

[livid rapids]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/$phong

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[weak ermine]

phong in source 2

[livid rapids]

I don't know if they ported skins to rough/metal but I don't see why they would do it for models that you don't see

[weak ermine]

old models have roughness, normal, metalness and albedo maps, the fuck u talking about brooo

[livid rapids]

I recall exporting the karambit materials from cs2 and it had the envmap texture

[weak ermine]

nuh

[livid rapids]

quick! send the talon knife's roughness map

[weak ermine]

quick?

bro im in the bus

[livid rapids]

💀

nvm

[weak ermine]

i can send but wait about 4 minutes

im almost home

[livid rapids]

no rush bro

[weak ermine]

ao useless

and thx moonlight i can have access to pc in bus

[livid rapids]

this makes sense, they didn't change the model, only had to make the roughness texture

but I'm fairly certain the firearms' old models do not have proper pbr

since you don't see those, you can only see them through skins and those surely have pbr mats

anyways I may be wrong so I'm going to check for myself

[weak ermine]

I can't find a normal texture atlas for gloves

[livid rapids]

mind sending the dualies?

[weak ermine]

huh?

[livid rapids]

the elites

[weak ermine]

uh

glowing shit its my part

[weak ermine]

uhuh where's the fuck is roughtness map wtf

wrong zip

[livid rapids]

cs2 elite, roughness on left, metallic on right

[weak ermine]

new model

[livid rapids]

yes

[weak ermine]

unfortunately some cs2 models just don't load in gmod rtx

[livid rapids]

"weapons/models/elite/materials/weapon_pist_elite.vmat" is new model, "materials/models/weapons/v_models/pist_elite/m9a1.vmat" is old model

oh

well I was wrong

[weak ermine]

its over

sob spongebob

[livid rapids]

I thought it was inverted envmap because of the very diffuse looking reflections but I guess valve just doesn't like shiny stuff anymore

[weak ermine]

yeh old deagle model just black

[livid rapids]

Well if you want to see how they look there's a cs2 pistol pack for mw base

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3266025794&searchtext=

[weak ermine]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3295983646&searchtext=swcs

[livid rapids]

I've done it but never uploaded it because to be honest they're not that good for showcasing (not much specularity)

[weak ermine]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2193997180&searchtext=swcs

[livid rapids]

apart from the very metallic elite and deagle

degle

[livid rapids]

where did the fucking message go

[livid rapids]

these are my first ports, I didn't use the original materials but instead the pseudo-pbr ones from the addons, but in some cases they produce similar results

some were very over the top, that elite was shiny asf

I MAY have a screenshot with the correctly ported materials

[weak ermine]

hm what if i port css materials

[livid rapids]

here, not very shiny

[weak ermine]

i dont want ai bullshit staff

[haughty goblet]

@subtle bison if you’re still tweaking with tonemapping feel free to steal my tonemapper impls, I got a bunch including my own. I also got a parametric ACES version, it might be able to give aces a more fair shot.

[weak ermine]

funny how they just bosted brightness in photoshop

[livid rapids]

Grayscale > Levels > done

man

I still need to port these to new hashes

[weak ermine]

holly fuck looks good

[wispy crest]

doing pbr is sort of tricky, if you want it to look good and accurate, you can't really like, automate it

[willow fog]

Man I gotta finish my mwbase pack

[wispy crest]

like, throwing it into an ai thing

[willow fog]

IF I COULD FIND THE RIGHT FUCKING TEXTURES THAT IS

AND THE GAME IS STILL LIKE 50 DOLLARS

[subtle bison]

one day we will get a pack 😭

[willow fog]

Buy me the game, I'll finish it. I can't make the pack without the assets

[subtle bison]

[willow fog]

Can't

I tried that route.

Such versions are older than the latest retail so the asset softwares just refuse to work

[weak ermine]

noob

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[turbid barn]

cordycep / husky?

[willow fog]

Nope. Not unless you have the latest version

[turbid barn]

both are not working with 1.38/1.44?

have tried on uncracked 1.65?

just asking
why does retail is so important so cracked vers and not supported?

[weak ermine]

looks like dogshit

[wispy crest]

gamepass

[willow fog]

Not

[weak ermine]

gaypass

[wispy crest]

then pay 60 dollars idk what to tell u

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/job-jumpscare-job-application-job-meme-job-jumpscare-gif-5102454363566376023

[turbid barn]

@willow fog i've talker to cod cracker

1.38 (full cracked build) is on S4 Cold War
1.44 (WZ only) is on S6 Cold War

[subtle bison]

i wish cold war wasnt so broken, i cant even play the campaign 😭

[turbid barn]

1.38 and 1.44 are MW2019 builds. He was asking for assets for MW2019 weapons

[subtle bison]

nah i was just making an offtopic comment

buggy af engine

[turbid barn]

i've tried to play CW cracked on my old 1050ti

ts was 1fps on main menu

while MW2019 was running ~60 fps on medium

[subtle bison]

all the scripted sequences would desync on my machine, stuttered like no tomorrow, and my keyboard inputs would frequently get stuck

wish i could refund it

[compact blaze]

Was this like a live screenshot or did u pause the game to get a clear image, since in my experience translucent stuff like that is really grainy and not good lookin in motion

[turbid barn]

T9 engine is ass
IW9 is too. But it's way better than T9
im happy that BO6 was made on normal engine, not treyarch'es one

[subtle bison]

prob the latter

r_drawvgui 0 is peak

[turbid barn]

b-b-b-b-ut it has ray tracing 👉👈

[compact blaze]

Honestly I enjoy the T9 engine a lot mainly for how it does it’s lighting/baked global illumination

[subtle bison]

too bad i cant enjoy it

[compact blaze]

Like the neon colours there were beyond amazing

[subtle bison]

idk if my issues are just rdna4 exclusive, but even vkd3d couldnt save me

[compact blaze]

Never seen IW able to replicate it

[subtle bison]

i would run it on linux but i think the game requires online to play single player, so i would get banned immediately

[turbid barn]

i think it's more map designers credit

[compact blaze]

I remember for Cold War they installed a special tech for GI to the engine so I sorta credit that too

[turbid barn]

the reason why Nuketown in BO6 looks like 2010
because it was taken from 2010 game
while Nuketown in Cold War looks sick

[compact blaze]

Also idk why but

The new IW engine gets sooooo grainy

From the screen space GI and especially the screen space reflections

[turbid barn]

i've found that DLAA makes best quality for reflections

but ye, it's grainy for all

[compact blaze]

And the bloom they use just, looks ugly in bo6

Tho it’s more a bo6 thing I think, the bloom in mw2 looked great Imo

Do u think for cod 2026 the engine will get a real time path tracing update?

[turbid barn]

I don't think so

but im happy they will finally stop bringing their games to old asf consoles

releasing a game in 2025 for PS4 and Xbox One is hillarius

and that means IW10 Engine w/CoD2026 would get a big graphics step forward

[compact blaze]

Personally I never got the argument they’re held back by old consoles cause like, in its current state there’s not really much they can do

[compact blaze]

It’s still that same engine from 2019, 2016 and 2013, I never really saw the issue of them keeping those games on last gen cause it’s still a huge market and still possible

I don’t really feel bad for Sony’s bottom line that people keep using ps4 instead of upgrading

[turbid barn]

huge? I don't think there is too many people still have PS4 nowadays

[compact blaze]

Well it has to be if they’re still in that last gen market

[lapis delta]

FUCK YOU

[subtle bison]

i just bought bo6 and it has all 3 problems still what the fuck

[upbeat jewel]

game barely works on 5xxx series cards too

💩

get a d3d error after like 2 games

[turbid barn]

that's the 576 driver issue

[upbeat jewel]

yes, I know

[turbid barn]

it's on 40** too

downgrade to 572 or wait few monts untils these multi billion $ ratords will fix this issue

[upbeat jewel]

I have to use the driver tho because it fixes other games I play 😭

[turbid barn]

you will play CoD or normal games. You choose

[upbeat jewel]

heh, yeah basically

[modern quest]

come on dude. your insult was blocked so you just circumvent it like that?

[turbid barn]

sorry

[modern quest]

1 hour timeout

very tired of people doing this shit

[weak ermine]

надо было на русском написать, никтобы не понял

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[livid rapids]

mw2019 is 20 bucks rn

[willow fog]

I have 2 bucks in my steam wallet and enough cash to feed me for the week

[livid rapids]

🫡

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/ar2-cat-gif-66781403647090075

[copper dagger]

damn

[weak ermine]

LMAOOO

[subtle bison]

by far the coolest tool i have made

i have been thinking about this for months

it destroys engine performance very quickly tho lmao

there is a reason why i didnt spawn it on the grass

[wispy crest]

free plants

[subtle bison]

the markers are misbehaving 🙀

[subtle bison]

works with lights too

[lament quartz]

Rtx light comeback???

[subtle bison]

nah just one i added in the asset replacement lol

i tried to bring rtx lights back a few days ago but its still unstable for reasons beyond my knowledge

[compact blaze]

what are those boxes?

[lament quartz]

Anchor meshes iirc

[viscid ocean]

imagine beatrun in gmod rtx

would be so cool

don t think its possible though

[subtle bison]

it worked sorta

the way it draws viewmodels breaks rendering a bit tho lol

[runic gale]

fr remix

goofy ah

[runic gale]

hmm

[wispy crest]

is that construct remastered or whatever

i can never get that map to work

what pbr pack are you using

[runic gale]

yeah but still glitchies

[runic gale]

My own

[subtle bison]

you have to enable map fixes in the rtx spawnmenu

after that its fine

[wispy crest]

looks great

concrete looks a bit too bumpy though

[runic gale]

yea

[runic gale]

i meant it's doing culling issues

[subtle bison]

guh there is no culling issues

unless you're using an older ver without culling patches

[subtle bison]

yes enable map fixes

its not a culling issue

its a engine bug when a map has too many faces

[runic gale]

?

what command

nvm

[runic gale]

yea

[subtle bison]

huh you do have some culling issues in your video

[runic gale]

[runic gale]

the culling on the shadows?

[subtle bison]

0:58, light is leaking into the hallway

[subtle bison]

and that

[runic gale]

yeah sure here

[subtle bison]

odd, i dont get that at all

might be worth re-doing the binary patches

ok dont follow that actually

[weak ermine]

lol nrc sucks bigest balls in the world

[subtle bison]

?

[weak ermine]

this shit breaks reflections, performance, and sometimes lighting

[subtle bison]

ye but their issue looks like broken culling patches

@runic gale

[weak ermine]

nrc pool 44 fps
restir 66

[runic gale]

tryingn ow

[subtle bison]

back up your rtx.conf

[subtle bison]

so fixed?

[willow fog]

Guys

I'm gonna

[subtle bison]

ur gonna

[willow fog]

gonna play

gmod rtx

[willow fog]

after so long

[subtle bison]

this one is weird lol, i dont even know if this is culling related, im assuming you're using the HDRI mod to light the map?

im about to see if i have the same issue

[subtle bison]

ye so far it looks fixed to me

[runic gale]

Yeah HDRI skybox

[subtle bison]

weird

[willow fog]

For those who ask why agx instead of aces
It handles bright lights very well
AGX vs ACES

[subtle bison]

burrito can u send the tux dog for me

[willow fog]