Barnyard

[ashen merlin]

how about gamecube?

[edgy shard]

if I recall correctly there are 3 layers in the Gamecube and Wii build

[ashen merlin]

i'll boot up my PS2 copy really quick, i'm curious. i did recall it being different

it's what i grew up playing

[edgy shard]

also there's a similar layer effect on the bushes on some of the platforms

[ashen merlin]

yeah, that looks quite a bit nicer than on PC

i'll definitely try to replicate this, but it won't have the nice animations that the PS2 version does

[rugged forum]

the high quality grass setting might change something

[edgy shard]

it just completely disables the shader if the option is turned off (it's on by default)

[rugged forum]

1 fps on AMD
💀 but it finally works again

[ashen merlin]

wow, even better than cinematic 😛

glad you got it working

[rugged forum]

latest dxvk build fixed it

[ashen merlin]

short video of the PS2 copy for future reference

[rugged forum]

yeah getting 15 fps it looks like this

though i was probably getting 20 fps rendering at 200p when doing a playthough of portal rtx

[ashen merlin]

i can make you a custom file rtx.conf that should reduce a lot of the load

ideally you should send yours so i can adjust it

[rugged forum]

i think this is an old one before the geometry hash fix

[ashen merlin]

this is severely reduced in settings, but it doesn't look drastically worse

i gained ~25 FPS with this

also this really shows the issues with TAAU

[rugged forum]

i think nis looked better anyway

[ashen merlin]

i'm gonna open an issue for TAAU. the behavior definitely isn't normal

[ashen merlin]

lemme know if it needs adjustment

[rugged forum]

Well NIS looks way better with this but the fps gain seems minmal with how i am running it i can't actually have an fps counter

[ashen merlin]

if you enable dxvk's hud, it'll show FPS

and that's a shame. i guess it makes sense, with the performance bottleneck being AMD's poor ray tracing performance

some of the settings i reduced should have helped, but i guess not enough

i'll tweak it some more

[rugged forum]

usually amd rt isn't actually too bad it can do pretty good in cyberpunk with fsr but the utilization seems to be pretty low in anything path traced like quake, minecraft and cyberpunk path tracing

[ashen merlin]

yeah 😦

[ashen merlin]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/194

now i can adjust the conf a bit more

@rugged forum

best i can get

or this, rather

running NIS instead

i get 80 FPS with that at 1080p, vs 40 when i started

[rugged forum]

yeah pretty much the same

i wish the game would work with streaming through steam the input works but the display doesn't come over

[ashen merlin]

seems like an issue with Remix unfortunately. i think it's for the same reason that most overlays don't work

if you launch a normal desktop program with Steam, then launch a game that uses Remix through the desktop, it should work

[rugged forum]

also is there a tutorial anywhere on how to replace meshes

[ashen merlin]

sadly no, not that i know of. Mark went over it, but it's pretty complex

#1096847508002590760 message

[chrome mulch]

Sry, was sleepin. I will see in 30 minutes what i can do with the texture you uploaded

[rugged forum]

i've done something to my floor

[chrome mulch]

damn, what is this, wax-house?

what i would do is getting rid of the Roughness map because its causing this wax floor

4k and standart

[rugged forum]

i'll try redoing it with substance samplre

[chrome mulch]

can you send me the texture?

[chrome mulch]

thx

[rugged forum]

ok that is better

[chrome mulch]

still doesnt look like wood should like

here are the grass textures in 4K with proper 4K maps

[rugged forum]

This would be good to have pbr for

[chrome mulch]

what you mean fix

[rugged forum]

Oh that looks great

[rugged forum]

Yeah that is how it should look

[chrome mulch]

i`ll extract the maps and send them. i also upscaled the diffuse

[rugged forum]

does substance sampler do any upscaling?

[chrome mulch]

nope, materialize also not. Did it manually with RealSR-NNNC-Ergan

[rugged forum]

Thank you very much

[chrome mulch]

no problem, if there are any problems with these let me know

can you show how it looks?

[rugged forum]

yeah i'll check now

[chrome mulch]

they are looking better than yours, but still not good. Seems to be a mesh problem i think

[rugged forum]

also how it looks upstairs

[chrome mulch]

upstairs it looks right lol

could be the light downstairs which let it look weird

[rugged forum]

turning the intensity down on the lights makes the scene look better

[chrome mulch]

yeah defenetly, so my textures work fine right?

[rugged forum]

yeah they seem to be the best so far

@ashen merlin would it be possible to do anything here?

[rugged forum]

this looks like one of those 4k minecraft texture packs at this point

[chrome mulch]

its not even 4K xD

so looks good yeah?

[rugged forum]

yeah

[rugged forum]

this is rather low res to

[cold wedge]

I wish we had parallax mapping support😭

[chrome mulch]

yeah, would look like this then

[rugged forum]

i need to buy myself substance sampler only running off the trial rn

i hate how this bridge looks without the depth in the bricks

[chrome mulch]

i use materialize lol

and that tool is completly free

[rugged forum]

i have used it but it's results haven't been as good as substance sampler though i actually need to know what i expect my maps to look like

hence the wax floor

so what are you using to upscale?

[chrome mulch]

Topaz Gigapixel or waifu2x Extension GUI

it depends on the textures itself

[rugged forum]

my experience with gigapixel didn't work with game textures it always smudged it too much

[chrome mulch]

only if u use the ai feature. I change my settings myself to get rid of smearing and blur

[cold wedge]

Ugh
Fuck adobe man

Literally sucking the money off

[chrome mulch]

@rugged forum here are your new trees

[chrome mulch]

🤣 you pay?

[cold wedge]

I dont

Intrusive thoughts are getting louder

Like real loud

[chrome mulch]

xD

[rugged forum]

omg these new trees

but they don't look right

[chrome mulch]

what is with them?

[rugged forum]

gimme a sec

[chrome mulch]

the meshes... they get streched thats why the look a bit weird

[rugged forum]

the roughness doesn't seem right

[chrome mulch]

try only albedo and normal

sometimes r maps fuck them up in remix

for those i would not use gigapixel

real ersgan upscale

your bridge

[rugged forum]

Looking rather good

but why

[chrome mulch]

you need to download the broadcast sdk. its also metioned there

[rugged forum]

ok i thought it would've checked for the gpu before downloading

the sdk

[chrome mulch]

yeah it does, your gpu is fine but without sdk you cant use rtx super resolution. everything else will still work

but i have to say that RTX Super Res is absolute bullshit...

[cold wedge]

The normals doesn't seem powerful enough tho

[chrome mulch]

i made a smooth normal map, there are no sharp edges on bridges

[rugged forum]

why are my results looking like this

[chrome mulch]

wait, ill show you my settings

and these are the settings under home

dont touch these

here the correct engine settings (RealSR-NCNN-Vulkan)

[rugged forum]

still looking like this

[chrome mulch]

first is 4096x4096 with realsr-ncnn-vulkan and second one is 2000x2000

[chrome mulch]

looks like you used rtx super res

[chrome mulch]

you use srmd, but you have to use realsr

[rugged forum]

oh

[rugged forum]

how did you get it to 300

[chrome mulch]

its the stadart value

[rugged forum]

it is 256 for me

[chrome mulch]

then you are at the wrong setting again

[chrome mulch]

its at 512

but looks right now

[rugged forum]

still can't get it to work i will just stick with chainner

[chrome mulch]

yeah, waifu 2x is a bit complicated, but one you get it working properly its doing really great

[rugged forum]

the bridge is looking pretty good now

though i think the normal map could be better

[chrome mulch]

i can make it more crisp, shouldnt be a problem

made it a bit more agressive

[rugged forum]

that looks like it would work

[chrome mulch]

if chainner would work too...

again and again and again...

[rugged forum]

i think you can use nvidia texture tools for it

[chrome mulch]

3rd restart and it worked

defenetly more detailed than the first one

[rugged forum]

yeah this seems to work better

[chrome mulch]

great

[rugged forum]

my main issue with the trees was the diffuse map was too dark

[chrome mulch]

ah ok, r and n map works fine?

[rugged forum]

now i just need to redo these awful puddles

[rugged forum]

yeah they are fine

[ashen merlin]

the textures look oddly noisy, but definitely a good improvement

striking a balance between the original game and the new look is gonna be hard

[rugged forum]

that is the problem i was having with the trees i needed the colour and shape to be the same so i mixed my maps with Hellraven's to get where we are

[ashen merlin]

realisticrescaler generally does better imo, try it out if you haven't: https://openmodeldb.info/models/4x-RealisticRescaler

a lot less distortion, adds more detail

[chrome mulch]

Ill try

[ashen merlin]

i can probably do something with those lights, yeah

[ashen merlin]

where you using my conf with the custom eye adaptation settings? that's why it's so bright, to reduce noise in the scene

[rugged forum]

yeah think i was

[ashen merlin]

the conf should have made it look normal, just like before

i didn't include it in the low performance conf i made yesterday though, forgot

[rugged forum]

idek when i downloaded it

[chrome mulch]

why is chainner such a diva...

[ashen merlin]

seems like your image is corrupted

[chrome mulch]

sometimes it works, sometimes not

[ashen merlin]

this is my conf with the EV stuff

[rugged forum]

I'm trying to work on putting some of these images into the smaller ones

[ashen merlin]

i have to start unifying this stuff somewhere. it's a mess right now

the second one there needs some work first

can you send the original?

[rugged forum]

wrong one

[ashen merlin]

also we really need to make sure we don't bloat the texture sizes beyond what they need to be. 4k textures for this game are a bit nuts

you guys did good work, that's just a concern i have

[chrome mulch]

Trees are 2048x2048

[ashen merlin]

lmao. lost my touch a bit

[ashen merlin]

ya, that's good

i just saw the discussion in #offtopic-game-discussion before

[rugged forum]

can we change those eyes

[ashen merlin]

lol don't worry. i wouldn't give that to you as a final result

gonna try again

[rugged forum]

tbf i think the upscale did a rather good job considering what it had to work with

[ashen merlin]

it did, yeah. just the eyeless being is a bit creepy

not sure what you're asking

[rugged forum]

lol yeah

[chrome mulch]

if it looks like a normal pbr or like a parallax textures

[rugged forum]

parrallax

[chrome mulch]

haha no, its just PBR without any parallax value

[ashen merlin]

yeah. to me it also looked paralax for some reason

[chrome mulch]

haha ok xD

[ashen merlin]

it's uh... still concerning

just not as much

@chrome mulch what's the program you're using right now? the results look pretty nice

[rugged forum]

materilalize

[chrome mulch]

Materialize, the program from which uncharted 1 and 2 got its PBRs from.
Its totally free

[ashen merlin]

nice

[rugged forum]

the only achievment i've done with materialize is turn a picture of bricks i took with my phone and turn it into a material

[chrome mulch]

i dont mention that this texture has no maps rn

[ashen merlin]

well, that's still good 😛

[rugged forum]

yeah shadows looking prebaked

[ashen merlin]

i have a ton of high res environmental photos. might be usable for this then

[chrome mulch]

yeah

[rugged forum]

@ashen merlin in your captures do you have a mesh of the red wall of the barn?

[chrome mulch]

are there any palm trees in Barnyard?

[rugged forum]

no

but here are some tree textures if you want to work on them 🙂

meanwhile i'm going to bed, gn

[chrome mulch]

hm ok, first i need to convert them to png. Gn

[ashen merlin]

yes

[rugged forum]

yeah it doesn't seem to be there for me

could you send it through

[ashen merlin]

if Remix isn't assinging it in the right place, i don't think sending it will really fix anything

i'll see if i can find it though

[chrome mulch]

dont know for what this is but should be fine that way

[ashen merlin]

i think the texture on that one is a little too strong

afaik that's dirt with a patch of grass, might be wrong though

[chrome mulch]

its more a wooden texture

like that

[chrome mulch]

here you go

[rugged forum]

that quickly, wow thanks

except i can't test

[chrome mulch]

haha xD

[rugged forum]

well this tree looks great now

[rugged forum]

Now it just needs a somewhat smoother mesh

[rugged forum]

@ashen merlin have you tried working with the lights yet?

[chrome mulch]

Your welcome

[rugged forum]

thank you

[chrome mulch]

Did you tested rhe grass i posted domewhere earlier?

[chrome mulch]

This

[rugged forum]

no i will try it now

yeah it isn't right

[chrome mulch]

Yeah...

The alpha is missing

[rugged forum]

so how can that be fixed

[chrome mulch]

the problem here was that i exported in .bmp instead of .png... png is the only standart that supports alphas as far as i know. I will redo them

[chrome mulch]

give me some time, i am figuring it out currently

[chrome mulch]

this wont work. the alpha gets ignored

[rugged forum]

also there is another bridge with a real low res texture

[chrome mulch]

can you send that texture?

[chrome mulch]

thx

picture to big vor discord to open lol

[rugged forum]

how big is it?

[chrome mulch]

94mb and 2048x4096

[rugged forum]

are you sure it isn't 16k

[chrome mulch]

oh it is xD

dont know how that could happen lol

i downscale it a bit

[rugged forum]

i was wondering why it was taking so long to load

[chrome mulch]

but neat that i got that much detail from a what 8x16? or what was that

[rugged forum]

32x64

[chrome mulch]

ah ok

[rugged forum]

though yeah there isn't really a lot of detail in it

[chrome mulch]

downscaled without much quality loss

[rugged forum]

I really can't believe how you got so much detail from that texture

[chrome mulch]

its magic

even as parallax it would look good

[rugged forum]

thanks

[chrome mulch]

show me the result then pls

[rugged forum]

if omniverse wants to work

[chrome mulch]

xD

[rugged forum]

ok one sec

Before vs after

[chrome mulch]

the after is pretty good

[rugged forum]

yeah i mean it is a 64x upscale

[chrome mulch]

if you want to know why i use materialize and not nvidias software: https://youtu.be/KpYJkB7gAXs

if you have more textures to be upscaled and edited just send them

[ashen merlin]

no

[rugged forum]

i assume you've been rather busy

[ashen merlin]

yeah

i've been meaning to do my own texture work too. i'll probably get around to this stuff tomorrow or the day after

[rugged forum]

@ashen merlin could you find it?

yeah but the issue is it only happens when enhanced assets are on

[ashen merlin]

then it sounds like you mistakenly attached a light to the mesh

if you send the latest mod.usda i'll see if that happened

[tame flume]

If autopbr is a PBROven thing, I do want to make you aware that it automatically marks any "Add Light to Textures" materials to be emissive by default (tags are pulled from rtx.conf on profile load). Sorry if this is breaking anything, I'll have an option to disable this behavior in the future.

(this only applies to 0.0.20a7)

[ashen merlin]

try that

you had the opacity slider enabled for it, it may have been fully transparent

[rugged forum]

didn't seem to work

i'll check omniverse

in omniverse there doesn't even seem to be a mesh for it

if you want to check what is going on

[ashen merlin]

i can't use that capture for some reason

i don't know what's causing this

if it's only happening with enhancements enabled, then it has to be something with the mod.usda

[rugged forum]

but i just don't understand why it isn't being captured

[rugged forum]

what is wrong with it?

[tame flume]

I've been having some very strange issues with this as well in Red Faction II-- certain light coronas are rendering as seemingly rasterized objects without a single texture linking up to them. I wonder if I changed something in the geometry rules to cause this to happen, but I don't think I touched that in RF2 yet.

[chrome mulch]

maybe this site will help you in search for good textures

https://www.texturecan.com/category/New/

[rugged forum]

@chrome mulch could you please do your magic with this texture, when i tried doing it i ended up with another wax floor

[rugged forum]

🥺

[chrome mulch]

oh sry, overread that, i see what i can do

[chrome mulch]

i overdid it

[chrome mulch]

thats the best i could do with that texture

[rugged forum]

that is looking great i will try it now

[rugged forum]

Yeah it is looking real nice now

before

the colour is a bit different but tbh i prefer it

[rugged forum]

also here is another brick texture i request

[sleek geode]

If you want a decent upscale tool Waifu2x gui I use to use a lot and works great with many things but Lately I use Cupscale GUI with different model choices can pick any model you want I use Lollypop Modeland honestly results are pretty good Been using it mostly For PCSX2 Texture Packs 1 of them is Barnyard however back when I was doing Barnyard was barely playable and buggy without using software renderer think it's fixed now though.

[rugged forum]

i have tried Waifu2x but i can't find out how to do a normal upscale on it

[sleek geode]

yeah im sure you need to pick a select resolution like 1920 x 1080 etc... Cupscale GUI however is amazing can preview before upscale.

This is cupscale

https://github.com/n00mkrad/cupscale/releases

then I get models from here https://upscale.wiki/wiki/Model_Database

also you can mix and match Models like deblur and Sharpening etc...

however I don't .dds is supported properly I know i had issues with pcsx2 I just saved as .png and reformat to .dds

[rugged forum]

i will give it a try

[chrome mulch]

I use gigapixel

[chrome mulch]

I will do it when i am back at home. I am at work rn

[sleek geode]

gigapixel isn't free though is it?

I mean i have gigapixel but i'm sure watermark in free I believe

[ashen merlin]

don't use Cupscale please

it's severely out of date and is unsupported

here's a list of known supported software: https://openmodeldb.info/docs/faq#maintained-programs

that waifu2x gui thing isn't on here though

chaiNNer is the most frequently updated with the best support as of right now

[chrome mulch]

I have the paid version for free

[sleek geode]

Cupscale should work for just upscaling textures while yeah it's out dated but works perfectly for upscaling I have done many PS2 games with it NFS2, most wanted, carbon, barnyard and more

[sleek geode]

Nice how do you find results? I tried free version and oddly I got better results with cupscale

[chrome mulch]

@sleek geode see for yourself

[sleek geode]

assuming this is original? if so I will check cupscale

[chrome mulch]

Yes but its not og size

[chrome mulch]

This is og @sleek geode

[sleek geode]

Before with og and after this is 100% upscale with cupscale and lollypop model

[chrome mulch]

Yeah no. Gigapixel gets way better results

The free version does not make a good job yes, but the paid is great (as long as you dont use the ai feature)
Depending on the texture/picture i set the preset (normal, HQ, Art, Lines, Compressed or low res) and set the values myself for the best result

[sleek geode]

Has anyone thought of using stable diffusion etc... to generate or make textures?

[ashen merlin]

yes, works fairly well depending on the texture

[ashen merlin]

the reason i don't recommend it is because it doesn't support newer model architectures, like SwinIR

one of the best free models right now is SwinIR Large

and it regularly outperforms gigapixel

RealisticRescaler is also great

[ashen merlin]

RealisticRescaler

[sleek geode]

Will have to look in to oddly I just tried stable diffusion with that texture to base the image on I lowered it's setting's and well after just a few prompt's results aren't bad would need some work though but I done this just as a experiment

[ashen merlin]

SwinIR Large

[ashen merlin]

lowering the denoising amount should help with those issues

[sleek geode]

I think realistic rescaler was best I use NMKD GUI for Stable Diffusion I know there's a web GUI also apparently a lot more features

[ashen merlin]

@sleek geode if you insist on using Cupscale, you should at least switch to this version: https://github.com/DrPleaseRespect/cupscale/releases/tag/unoffical-rev3.1

it's updated quite a bit more and is far more stable

[chrome mulch]

I stay with gigapixel

[sleek geode]

Thank you Downloading it now

[chrome mulch]

that will do i think

[rugged forum]

Wow that looks great

[chrome mulch]

will be the first texture i include a metallic map

you can test if you need it or not

[rugged forum]

Well there is a way in reg edit

[chrome mulch]

Not only that way

[chrome mulch]

Have you tested the textures yet?

[rugged forum]

no not yet i will do it now

also what is the max scale you can do at once in gigapixel?

[sleek geode]

Looks nice the 1st pic

[chrome mulch]

Well max is 6x, but you can set a personal res in height or width

[rugged forum]

what can you do with this?

[chrome mulch]

OG vs Upscales, somehow some details got lost where others got added

[rugged forum]

that kind of went away from what i was expecting

[chrome mulch]

what ya mean

[rugged forum]

well it is supposed to be on a water tank but i can't really see the upscaled texture working for it

[chrome mulch]

i can try it agin

[edgy shard]

In the Wii version of the game some textures are much more better quality and I'm pretty sure there's a HQ water tank texture. I will check if it's there and will let you know if it is

[chrome mulch]

is it a metal texture?

[rugged forum]

yeah

[rugged forum]

oh yeah that does have better textures though i wouldn't have a clue on how to extract the textures unless you already have them?

[chrome mulch]

now ended up with that

[rugged forum]

was that with waifu?

[chrome mulch]

this time with waifu yes

it depends on the picture which one works best

[rugged forum]

So how do you have it

[edgy shard]

oh turned out that there's a hq version of the texture in the pc edition too

[rugged forum]

where was that

[chrome mulch]

uh thx, let me see what i can do with that

[edgy shard]

it's used on the bike test level

[rugged forum]

i wonder why it was never used in the main game

[edgy shard]

shall I send some other textures in better quality?

[rugged forum]

Yeah that would help, thanks

[edgy shard]

these are from the Japanese Wii version (it is probably the latest version of the game)

[chrome mulch]

oh thx, i can turn them into pbrs

[chrome mulch]

left waifu, right gigapixel, which looks better?

[edgy shard]

do fences have low quality textures in the game?

[rugged forum]

Right

[edgy shard]

yeah, the second one

[chrome mulch]

good

[rugged forum]

oh good, they have the hashes included in the name otherwise i'd have no idea what i would've done with them

[edgy shard]

those are the hashes generated by Dolphin emulator

[rugged forum]

so they won't be the same?

[edgy shard]

should not be the same

[rugged forum]

well i am familiar with most of the textures

though have no clue with this one

Good to see that the reg file still works with gigapixel

[edgy shard]

I think it's from the bridge near the dankweed pond

[rugged forum]

is it the sides?

[edgy shard]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[chrome mulch]

seems so

[rugged forum]

well i think it'd be impossible to make the ones we have got now look any good

[edgy shard]

here are some more textures that are unused on PC (or just some of them)

[rugged forum]

you can see here

[edgy shard]

oh and also there's an art artist who's working on remaking all of the game textures

though I'm not sure how many the textures are done at the moment

[rugged forum]

are they in the Barnyard Speedrunning discord?

[edgy shard]

maybe but I think she doesn't use Discord

[rugged forum]

Ok, how do you know of their work?

[rugged forum]

Oh, Wow that does look nice

Definitely staying with the style of the game

[edgy shard]

we have a Russian community of Barnyard in our social network VK

[rugged forum]

what version are you on?

[rugged forum]

This looks rather good i could probably work off this though Otis' eyes with the mod doesn't look right

[edgy shard]

yeah I think they're too much bright

I'm trying to find the characters textures I've extracted from the demo version of the game

[rugged forum]

Can't wait to see how that looks in game

[edgy shard]

for some reason, this version has the best quality of these textures

and some weird marks on few skins..

[rugged forum]

@chrome mulch Gigapixel doesn't want to upscale live, basically staying on not updated any clue?

[chrome mulch]

you have to zoom a bit in

if you try to get the full picture with a pretty high res it cant load it

[rugged forum]

also i seem to be able to enter a custom scale which i don't remember being a thing when i last used it

[edgy shard]

they are used in the enhanced mod so maybe you already had them

[chrome mulch]

this time you have to use the metallic map as a metallic map to get that metallic material

[rugged forum]

well everything has already been assigned a metalli map since i used pbroven

[chrome mulch]

yeah, mine is a bit better

[rugged forum]

works rather well

[chrome mulch]

a rusty watertank

[rugged forum]

rustier than the original i'd say but it still works rather well

Now what about a rusty sheet of metal?

[chrome mulch]

alpha channel is hard to do though. Materialize cant handle opacity i think

but ill try

nope, cant create on materials with opacity

[latent cloak]

@chrome mulch question about Materialize if you don't mind. How are you importing the textures you captured from the game? It doesn't seem to recognize the .dds file type

[chrome mulch]

i open the files with photoshop and export them as png

[rugged forum]

you just convert them to png i use nvidia texture tools but you can also use chainner and Photoshop as above

[latent cloak]

ah ok. and then can you export it as .dds or do you need chainner for that

[rugged forum]

i assume you should be able to use any of them for that

[chrome mulch]

only as png. After that i convert them with photoshop to .dds

[latent cloak]

got it. thanks!

[chrome mulch]

but you need the intel texture tool plugin

[rugged forum]

well substance sampler seems to be doing alright but i'm not sure how the normals are going to go

[chrome mulch]

well, no it doesnt, there is also no opacity...

[chrome mulch]

have you free or paid version?

[rugged forum]

i'm going off the trial rn

[chrome mulch]

ah ok

[sleek geode]

For format converting I use Xnconvert works amazing use it for PS2 Textures it's fast and works great in bulk

[ashen merlin]

xnconvert does some funky stuff when resizing, so i'd recommend against using that

otherwise yeah, it's great

[sleek geode]

I haven't seemed to of had any issue from .png to .dds but I will keep it in mind incase.

[ashen merlin]

ya, i mean this here

plain format conversion is good

[sleek geode]

I just use for format conversion 1000's of textures done in seconds

[rugged forum]

Hmm using the latest dxvk and bridge build I seem to be getting a graphical glitch when I look in a certain direction

[ashen merlin]

i'm on an indefinite break from Barnyard stuff. way too busy

[rugged forum]

😔

[rugged forum]

i changed some of the pictures to the same ones in the nightbarn

[ashen merlin]

sad news

i replaced a model with Mark's new tutorial, and even models are messed up. it has similar behavior as lights do

that's a debug view, showing the replacement mesh stuck to the player camera. screen is solid black if i don't have debug on

stuck to the player camera

@trim pond so you're aware of this. i'm very sure i did it correctly, following your new tutorial

in this game, placing lights had the issue presented here: https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/181

meshes appear to have similar issues

mod.usda with the model

i triangulated the model, ran the script, saved it to the model, and i believe set up the structure correctly

[trim pond]

well... it looks like there's a new model in the game?

I don't see anything wrong with that, presuming untitled.usd exists next to the mod.usda. Could you save that as usda and share it?

| it has similar behavior as lights do
does that mean lights attached to replacement meshes are also stuck to the camera?

[ashen merlin]

lights placed in the game at all follow or are stuck to the player camera

Skyrim and Fallout NV also have that issue

[trim pond]

huh... with skyrim and FNV I'd guess that means they're positioning the mesh through a shader somehow, which the replacement wouldn't duplicate

[ashen merlin]

this game is also extremely heavy in shader usage, which is surprising for the age. if i disable shader capture, it's just a blank screen showing the sky

[trim pond]

I don't know enough about barnyard to speculate. Could you try this on a game where light replacements work normally?

[ashen merlin]

i'll have to see if one of the games i own works properly. when i find one, i'll test

[trim pond]

The material on untitled.usda is a UsdPreviewSurface, not an AperturePBR_*.mdl

Hmm.. I wonder what would happen if we passed a replacement mesh through the original draw call's vertex shader...

I don't think we've done much compatibility testing between vertex shader capture and replacement meshes. It's possible that could be handled a lot better. I'll chat with the devs that know more about the vertex shader stuff and see if there's some low hanging fruit there

[ashen merlin]

i must have missed a step, oops

[trim pond]

and the name of custom materials on meshes can be anything you want - it's rather confusing to name it mat_HASH. Those are meant for materials that replace a texture of that hash

[rugged forum]

The return i've been waiting for

[ashen merlin]

🙂

[rugged forum]

did you get it working?

[ashen merlin]

works in Morrowind

it stays where it's supposed to

barnyard (i replaced the tables in the scene with the character model)

instead, the character model centers itself with the... actual character model

[ashen merlin]

sorry, not ignoring you. sadly no, i can't get it working right now

[ashen merlin]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/181

i updated the issue regarding it

[ashen merlin]

uuuuuuuugh i wish so bad that light placements worked

it'd look so good

all of the games i'm working on are stalled because of this

[rugged forum]

yeah but tbh i can't see where it is really needed in barnyard

[ashen merlin]

it just provides significantly better lighting stability than emissives

it looks so much better

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103377328530276403/1124584195348496414/NFS_Underground_2_01_07_2023_03_11_03.png

NSFUG2 with proper lights

it interacts much better with the textures than emissives too, i believe

[rugged forum]

that does look way cleaner but are the taillights still emmisive or real lights?

[ashen merlin]

i believe they're emissive. not everything can be replaced with the proper lights

but having even a majority of it as the normal lights helps

[rugged forum]

so what was done in portal with the energy ball thing?

[ashen merlin]

i think they attached a sphere light to it? i'm not sure

emissives definitely have a purpose still, usually for more dynamic objects. especially for ones with changing textures, like the dance floor

but replacing stationary lights will be a big help

[rugged forum]

yeah, i wonder if it is possible to get the outside lights to only work if we can attach a light to the fake light that was there and hide that

[ashen merlin]

there's an issue with rasterization with outside stuff unfortunately. if the moon or sun is in view, it'll show the original appearance for those lights (and windows) no matter what

i'm not even sure how to go about reporting that issue

[rugged forum]

so why was it that the sun or moon caused issues when in view?

[ashen merlin]

that's what i mean. i have no idea why it'd be causing this. i guess a weird issue with the way the draw calls are called

i have no real way to debug it either

[rugged forum]

well would somehow deleting the sun work

[ashen merlin]

iirc infinitec0re said it'd take the whole skybox with it? which we definitely don't want

i might be able to hack some things around. i have a few ideas, just haven't had time to pursue them

[rugged forum]

well i've just lost the motivation in barnyard as there isn't really anything exciting you can do with it when it comes to remix. there isn't a lot of lights and most the textures is just basic looking terrain

[ashen merlin]

yeah, i understand that

for me it's mostly about getting rid of the weird original visuals (like the lighting on the characters). i love the game, but never particularly liked the visual style

i never really intended to make it hyper realistic or anything, just wanted to keep the cartoony appearance while upgrading the lighting

[rugged forum]

Well the only thing that i find interesting rn is the nighbarn as it probably had the biggest issue when it came to that

[weary yoke]

That’s an emissive on the tail light combined with a sphere light. 👀

[rugged forum]

How does that work

Well I see how but what is the point of an emmisive

[weary yoke]

The emissive is for the glow, and the light source is for the throw.

[ashen merlin]

are the tail lights just always on or something?

[weary yoke]

They are a glare sprite that appears when braking.

The taillight texture doesn’t change

[rugged forum]

Is the glare still there?

Because this could be used in barnyard if lights worked

[tame flume]

@ashen merlin If you're interested I could help you get a repo going for this project, I would just need to adapt the gitignore from the other projects for Barnyard-specific file formats and folders. This way you could also distribute your replacement emissive maps as you continue to update the project.

But yeah, the lack of lights is a real struggle in a whole bunch of my projects. 😔

[ashen merlin]

sure, that'd be great. it'll definitely have to happen later though, as i lost almost all of my work before and haven't had time to catch back up. thanks 🙂

[tame flume]

Sure thing, I'll be on in a few hours to get the gitignore set up.

[rugged forum]

What happened?

[ashen merlin]

while writing an update for my MagicUSDA script, it wiped my folder and my backup 😦

[tame flume]

You too huh? 😛

I did the same thing while working on my Stalker script. I just had the tab refresh from about 300 lines of Python code to a 500 KB USDA and I just knew I'd donegoofed.

[rugged forum]

what was supposed to be the purpose of the script

[tame flume]

It's basically a script that converts a directory of extracted DDS textures to a Remix-friendly PBR format. This one was configured for STALKER's format but when it's complete I'll probably adapt it to other games before bringing the functionality back into PBROven.

Or just make it into its own tool really, PBROven is better for working with captures.

[rugged forum]

so is it chainner and pbroven?

[tame flume]

Just ChaiNNer, but via Python.

It's a USDA writer and a ChaiNNer automation system, mostly because different texture types need different chains and ChaiNNer lacks conditional logic.

[rugged forum]

something i've noticed is that chainner isn't real good at generating pbr textures from the diffuse

[tame flume]

I think it may be possible to get better results with the right chain, it's really down to the same kind of techniques you see in Substance. Diffuse textures are chock full of baked effects in legacy games, so combined with a low resolution they're not much use for albedo in a lot of cases.

[ashen merlin]

are you using the usd-core library?

[tame flume]

Nope, I just created the file as a text stream. It's based on BlueAmulet's approach and works based off of which textures exist and which don't at the time of writing.

[ashen merlin]

i'd really recommend switching to the library. any changes that occur in the future regarding line structure will simply be fixed by updating the python package

It's based on BlueAmulet's approach and works based off of which textures exist and which don't at the time of writing.
if i read this correctly, that's how my script behaves as well

[tame flume]

Add a . to the beginning of the name and drop it in your repository (main folder) and it'll be considered a valid gitignore.

I also wrote sample instructions here if you want to copy them, scrub all references to Morrowind, and replace references to my fork with the main DXVK branch: https://github.com/anchorlightforge/Morrowind-Remix#readme

[rugged forum]

honestly don't even really know what this is

[tame flume]

When you make a git repo, a gitignore file will tell git which files you ignore. This way you can make a repo and not accidentally upload proprietary assets that could land you in legal trouble or force you to change the license on your codebase, or assets that are going to be different for every user like logs.

[rugged forum]

@ashen merlin would anything new with the omniverse update help?

[rugged forum]

And what did you use to make the emissives for the dance floor?

[ashen merlin]

nothing sadly

[ashen merlin]

what do you mean?

[tame flume]

I think Kim made the emissives by hand, it's just a full color texture that tells Remix which pixels glow.

So it'll just be all black for unlit panels and look the same or slightly brighter for lit panels.

[graceful pollen]

Barnyard rtx remix, SHiFT would be proud

[ashen merlin]

hmmmmmm

possible regression

what the hell is going on?

my rtx.conf doesn't seem to be loaded properly

[rugged forum]

Is this a newer dxvk

[ashen merlin]

yes

major skybox issues

same settings on an older build

okay

it's just the very latest build

@weak wagon since you're already in this thread, the latest build has totally broken conf file parsing. it's not reading my dxvk or rtx.conf files properly, causing major graphical issues and the DXVK hud to not overlay

build f891472

i'll open a proper issue about this soon

[ashen merlin]

@edgy shard do you happen to have a mod to skip the intros? it wastes so much time 😦

[rugged forum]

I think there is a way

Does renaming the files work?

[rugged forum]

I'm not even sure if that is win 10 or 11

And do you still need swre?

[ashen merlin]

it skips some of it, but not all

[ashen merlin]

11, and yeah, i still need SRWE

[rugged forum]

How did it look with rain?

[rugged forum]

That is odd, I never had to use it on my laptop or desktop

[ashen merlin]

didn't get to test that yet. it should look okay though

[ashen merlin]

yeah, i have no idea why it's necessary

[rugged forum]

I think it is to do with my settings in regedit

[edgy shard]

The enhanced mod skips the intros

[rugged forum]

I don't think i got the enhanced mod working

[weak wagon]

I think we noticed this already, I’ll check with the team in the morning to see if we have a fix for this yet

[ashen merlin]

i was hoping to use it independently

[elder spoke]

bro

wtf

this will give me nightmares

[cold wedge]

Barnyard exe

[rugged forum]

@ashen merlin Have you tried getting the rain with cheat engine?

the save doesn't seem to save the rain

[weary yoke]

If you don’t move the camera, do the hashes stay stable? As in are the like skinned meshes which change every frame?

[ashen merlin]

supposedly hashes are stable, but replacements are still broken

the behavior is close to Skyrim and FNV's issues

[ashen merlin]

this is how replacements look. i replaced the tables in that scene with the player mesh, but it's stuck in the position of the player model instead

[weary yoke]

Oh so the world moves around the player?

Yea I don’t have much knowledge or even theories on fixing that

[ashen merlin]

not sure what you mean?

when i do a replacement, the new mesh is stuck to the player's position. lights will follow the player around similarly

i think the line is uniform bool enable_opacity = 0?

[weary yoke]

That seems right

[ashen merlin]

okay. i'm trying it now for a single mesh

mm that just broke it

[weary yoke]

Need to carry the textures with it

[ashen merlin]

oh right. mm that's annoying

[weary yoke]

Yea that’s why I suggested adding it to your script

[ashen merlin]

okay wat

[weary yoke]

I’ll come up with some theories while I’m out and about today.

[ashen merlin]

it's invisible now

oh never mind, i'm a dumbass

that didn't fix it 😦

does look different in-game though

[ashen merlin]

replacing meshes in this game is going to be a nightmare

everything is like this

[ashen merlin]

i don't get it though

it's changed, yet it's still showing up as transparent?

[weary yoke]

It might have something in the alpha channel

[ashen merlin]

i verified with Portal RTX's files, this is how they do it

[ashen merlin]

on the texture? hm

[weary yoke]

I think you can strip the channel with nvtt or chainner in bulk

[weary yoke]

Interesting. That might mean the game is all static meshes tho

Which is what made NFS U2 the easiest one to get working.

[ashen merlin]

i'm trying, but it won't split for some reason, lol

[ashen merlin]

almost nothing in the game will be easy to replace 😦

a simple door has geometry connected to the building, lol

[weary yoke]

I’ll have to take a look after cod2.

[weary yoke]

I should make a kaban board or something all these games

[ashen merlin]

did nothing 😦

i have no idea what the issue is

this game has some serious issues, lol

it looks different, so something has to be changing

[tame flume]

Yeah honestly I had no idea it was even a feature, I'll be making that as soon as I can for my own projects. Just need to find the time 😔

[weary yoke]

So every surface still shows up as transparent?

[weary yoke]

The time bit is always the true challenge

[ashen merlin]

yes

[weary yoke]

Wonder if there’s some light map or decal stuff going on.

[ashen merlin]

afaik there are no light maps in this game? but it could be decals

[vivid falcon]

Literally everything but UI is "Alpha Tested"

[cold wedge]

That doesn't seem right

@ashen merlin hows the performance in barnyard?

[vivid falcon]

We talked about that, isOpaque debug view is full red.

[ashen merlin]

very bad

performs worse than Portal RTX and Prelude

[cold wedge]

This probably explains why

[vivid falcon]

Marking a texture as terrain (when baking is enabled)

[ashen merlin]

i have no idea what to do about this. for some reason, captures in this game have more settings available than other games?

like i have alpha test controls and all that

so something is very wrong

this is the default for all captured materials

setting Blend Type to Color doesn't fix anything

[weary yoke]

That enable_opacity should be unchecked

[ashen merlin]

unchecking it and changing the material flags fixes nothing 😦

[vivid falcon]

I tried de-referencing the original material and replacing it with AperturePBR_Opacity, but it still doesn't work.

Did you tried enabling opacity micromap, which should -in theory- improve performance? It didn't affect mine though :/
Enables Opacity Micromaps for geometries with textures that have alpha cutouts. This is generally the case for geometries such as fences, foliage, particles, etc. . Opacity Micromaps greatly speed up raytracing of partially opaque triangles. Examples of scenes that benefit a lot: multiple trees with a lot of foliage, a ground densely covered with grass blades or steam consisting of many particles.

[vivid falcon]

Got mesh replacements working (tadpole's window frame as player model lol)

Still treated as non-opaque though :/

[rugged forum]

Is that skybox different?

[vivid falcon]

?

[rugged forum]

you didn't change the skybox did you?

[vivid falcon]

No

That's the config in the first post

[rugged forum]

My game looks rather different

[vivid falcon]

Oh I added a distant light for sun

[rugged forum]

Yeah that'd be it. When did light replacements work?

Well it isn't really a replacement but you couldn't add them in before without issues iirc

[vivid falcon]

If mesh replacements work, lights should work too. However it's a fallback light, not a replacement one

# Fallback Light rtx.fallbackLightDirection = -20, 64, -12 rtx.fallbackLightAngle = 1 rtx.fallbackLightMode = 2 rtx.ignoreGameDirectionalLights = True
Add this to rtx.conf

[rugged forum]

now i just need to fix whatever happened here somehow

[rugged forum]

What files are they found in?

[edgy shard]

Barnyard\Data\Matlibs\gui_Fonts.ttl

[rugged forum]

Thanks

[weary yoke]

Man what is going on

[rugged forum]

Is this where the font in game is read from?

[edgy shard]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it could also be in many other files

they store many texture duplicates in different files

[rugged forum]

Well finally fixed those buildings

[vivid falcon]

I never had that issue but can you explain how did you fixed that?

[rugged forum]

It seemed to be an issue with PBROven assigning the materials so i just deleted them but i might add them in manually later

[vivid falcon]

So you guys generate a template for replacements?

[rugged forum]

pretty much

Nevermind The real issue seems to be the replacement Texture is just all black must've been an issue with chainner

Not even that the textture is completly empty

[ashen merlin]

yeah. there's 2 tools for texture replacements right now, MagicUSDA and PBROven

[ashen merlin]

that's amazing. you just used Mark's steps?

i haven't tried it in about a month

[vivid falcon]

With the help of tadpole

I wanted to see if this could fix the issue but no chance at all.

[vivid falcon]

Same story for replacements

[ashen merlin]

having model replacements working in general is really nice though

i've been waiting for lights to work. a lot of things in this game need it

[vivid falcon]

Hey @trim pond I would like to hear your opinion on this.

[ashen merlin]

the game stores information totally upside down, except for the skybox? so the level ends up inverted compared to the skybox. not really sure what to do about that issue either

[vivid falcon]

Oh I was wondering why there was a hemisphere under the terrain in my captures.

[ashen merlin]

yeah, lol

it's really weird

meshes being split up like this is going to be a nightmare for replacements

https://www.youtube.com

wow, it works now

how terrible

huh. discord did some thinking and blocked masking links with other links

@noble saffron this is good!

[trim pond]

It's possible the debug mode is just broken

[vivid falcon]

The performance is horrible though

[ashen merlin]

that debug mode works in other games, and performance is abysmal here

worse than Portal RTX

[trim pond]

hmm, something in your conf then?

Do you know when it started, and do you have version history for your cof files?

[ashen merlin]

this happens with plain conf files as well, and afaik it has always been like this

[trim pond]

does it still show up as alpha tested when you replace materials?

Maybe there's just some transparent panel in front of the camrea that's fully alpha tested? I'm not sure how the alpha test debug rendering works - does it draw the full triangle?

[vivid falcon]

Yep, I also tried referencing them to AperturePBR_Opacity, even materials of replacement meshes are alpha tested.

[vivid falcon]

The sky doesn't get the debug view

[ashen merlin]

the sky in this game is very buggy

[trim pond]

could you post some shots of what this debug view looks like? I don't actually know, and I don't have time to go through the full history of the channel

[ashen merlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106420949257044061/1135870313796739122/resim.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106420949257044061/1135601350361759764/image.png

marking a texture as terrain fixes it? however we can't mark everything as terrain: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106420949257044061/1135658223316242452/resim.png

[vivid falcon]

In comparison this is how Portal RTX looks like.

[ashen merlin]

i was able to change this glass to translucent! not possible before. the game will look so much better with this

[trim pond]

hmm. I'm going to guess that the game is just using some odd combination of alpha blend settings in their draw calls, which we interpret to mean it's alpha tested

[ashen merlin]

to add onto this, all materials in a capture have these flags:

[trim pond]

hmm, just grabbed a random material from a portal capture and it has the same flags :/

[ashen merlin]

really? i did some captures in Portal as well and didn't run into that when selecting opaque meshes, like the ground

[vivid falcon]

Also enabling opacity micromap (which is supposed to improve performance in this case?) doesn't help.

Enables Opacity Micromaps for geometries with textures that have alpha cutouts. This is generally the case for geometries such as fences, foliage, particles, etc. . Opacity Micromaps greatly speed up raytracing of partially opaque triangles. Examples of scenes that benefit a lot: multiple trees with a lot of foliage, a ground densely covered with grass blades or steam consisting of many particles.

[trim pond]

well yeah, if the draw call claims to be alpha tested but actually is fully opaque, OMM is not really going to save much.

[vivid falcon]

Any possible solutions to the issue?

[trim pond]

I'm not familiar enough with that part of the codebase to know off the top of my head.

If I had time right now, I'd dig into what flag that debug view is triggering on, and then see what about a draw call can cause that particular flag to activate, and either adjust that behavior, or add a config toggle to customize it. If any of you are comfortable digging through the code you could do that yourself.

if not, you'll probably need to file a github issue about it

[ashen merlin]

@vivid falcon lights still aren't working for me. is this how it looks for you?

        {
            custom int preserveOriginalDrawCall = 1
            def RectLight "RectLight" (
                prepend apiSchemas = ["ShapingAPI"]
            )
            {
                float3[] extent = [(-50, -50, -0), (50, 50, 0)]
                float inputs:colorTemperature = 4000
                bool inputs:enableColorTemperature = 1
                float inputs:height = 100
                float inputs:intensity = 500
                float inputs:shaping:cone:angle = 180
                float inputs:shaping:cone:softness
                float inputs:shaping:focus
                color3f inputs:shaping:focusTint
                asset inputs:shaping:ies:file
                float inputs:width = 100
                double3 xformOp:rotateXYZ = (-81.60000121593475, 1.0000000149011612, -0.30000000447034836)
                double3 xformOp:scale = (0.05, 0.05, 0.05)
                double3 xformOp:translate = (-0.30000000447034836, -1.600000023841858, 10.500000156462193)
                uniform token[] xformOpOrder = ["xformOp:translate", "xformOp:rotateXYZ", "xformOp:scale"]
            }
        }
    }

[ashen merlin]

will do, thank you 🙂

[vivid falcon]

Will have a look

[ashen merlin]

those are emissives

ignore those

hang on, i'll give you the save file i'm using

you go into the barn, then go downstairs. the pool table is what has the light attached

[vivid falcon]

Alright

Nothing :/

[ashen merlin]

😦 that's so sad

at least it's not stalking the player like before

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106420949257044061/1112239712988569670/Barnyard_2023-05-28_00-42-22.mp4

this is how it worked months ago

oh wait

it's doing the same thing, it's just behind the player

[vivid falcon]

Also do you have an idea why indoors has extreme noise?

[ashen merlin]

what do you mean?

the extreme red is from the emissives not having a texture assigned (since i didn't send you them)

and emissives are quite noisy

[vivid falcon]

My game has extreme noise indoors even without emissives

[ashen merlin]

could be the opacity issue

it looks like this for me though

so i don't know?

[vivid falcon]

Why do lights do this while mesh replacements work :/

[ashen merlin]

here's my conf just so you have it. i might have tweaked something to reduce noise

[ashen merlin]

wish i knew 😦

this game needs lights very badly

[vivid falcon]

I replaced the player's mesh, the others might not even work in this case.

[ashen merlin]

try with my rtx.conf, i think i changed something to fix that

[ashen merlin]

replacing meshes even 2 weeks ago was totally broken

so lights are just broken now i guess

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106420949257044061/1123480784905441290/Barnyard_2023-06-28_01-10-23.mp4

it did this, lol

[trim pond]

mm, you're trying to replace a skinned mesh, I'm guessing?

[ashen merlin]

in that case, i replaced a table. afaik it's not skinned

i tried many other objects as well with no luck at that point in time

it appears to be working now though, which is great

[trim pond]

ah, I thought you were talking about the shadow cow in the video

[ashen merlin]

haha. shadow cow was the mesh i inserted, actually by mistake. i meant to use another table mesh i had. it had the same effect

it would move all replaced meshes to the player's position

[trim pond]

why are lights broken? you should just be able to add lights to existing meshes, as long as you include the preserverOriginalDrawCall flag

ooohhhh.... is barnyard placing the meshes using a vertex shader or something?

[ashen merlin]

they get "stuck" in a specific position. basically whatever position you place it relative to the player's location, it'll stay there

[ashen merlin]

barnyard does basically everything through vertex shaders as far as i can tell

[vivid falcon]

Pretty much

[ashen merlin]

ya, that's what i was just trying to get to demonstrate

[trim pond]

yep :/ and we're not running the replacement draw calls through those vertex shaders, so they don't get transformed... In theory, we could though... you could add a toggle to run replacement meshes through the vertex shader of the original draw calls

or submit a feature request to get us to do that

[ashen merlin]

that's quite a bit over my head, so feature request it is

[trim pond]

looks like it'd take a bit of refactoring, but nothing fundamentally prevents it. just a matter of doing the work.

[rugged forum]

Was anything preventing this before?

But honestly I'm happy to see progress is being made again

[ashen merlin]

iirc it just didn't work right

[rugged forum]

Is it replaced with some aperture material?

Also what did the original look like?

[rugged forum]

@ashen merlin Are you using the latest version
I seem to get stuck on this screen but i can still hear the game running in the background?

[vivid falcon]

I got that issue and it fixed itself when I get into the game without remix and take a save.

[rugged forum]

that hasn't seemed to work

Although i've noticed that my framerate wih remix off seems really low for waht it should be

[rugged forum]

you mean save the game?

[rugged forum]

Yeah that hasn't worked

unless it is driver related

[ashen merlin]

i'm on slightly older version. i ws running into that, but it fixed itself suddenly

not sure what to suggest

[rugged forum]

Well rn I'm just using an older version

But if it just fixes itself

I have no clue

[rugged forum]

Can you run me through how you did this?

[rugged forum]

I've got no clue how to replace a material instead of create one

Also sorry for the mass amount of pings recently

[ashen merlin]

no worries

i'll be able to help you tomorrow

[rugged forum]

👍

Also want to start getting into mesh replacements

ik it doesn't work well here

[ashen merlin]

sorry i didn't get around to it today

someone was working on a video for it, maybe you should wait for that. it'll do a much better job than i can

[rugged forum]

#1099591203768504421 message

Found this if it is the way

[ashen merlin]

#1096847508002590760 message

this is the best tutorial right now

not a video though

[rugged forum]

Isn't that only for replacing the mesh

[ashen merlin]

oh yeah, i meant to link this too

#1108266959763685458 message

this is for materials

[rugged forum]

oh yeah in that one it won't let me remove the reference

[ashen merlin]

that happens sometimes

#1097563444137427056 message

this is an alternative method, but Mark said it's not ideal for a few reasons

it does work on those stubborn materials, however

[rugged forum]

for what reasons?

[ashen merlin]

#general-remix message

[vivid falcon]

You should be able to do that with a text editor

[ashen merlin]

it doesn't work

it's a strange issue. adam and i have experienced it as well

[vivid falcon]

@ashen merlin I have been able to put a light on player's head with a clear config

[ashen merlin]

that kind of avoids the issue, because the issue is that lights placed anywhere get stuck to the player's position and follow them around

[rugged forum]

Cod meshes in barnyard 🤔

[rugged forum]

Well i tried to make the puddles reflective

[ashen merlin]

nice work. for some reason it didn't really work when i did it?

can you please send your reflective map

[rugged forum]

Here are the smaller ones

Here is the big puddle

[rugged forum]

I also changed the roof and walls of the barn but i don't think the roof looks great

[rugged forum]

You got anything that might contain the roof of the farmer house?

[rugged forum]

Is there anything that a recent version of remix would offer better than the version from early June i am using now

[rugged forum]

Well I kind of figured out how to do the translucent thing

Although it isn't a great way as it won't let me use an albedo with it

[vivid falcon]

you probably need to use two separate meshes

[ashen merlin]

they are, actually. if you mean the window and the car

[ashen merlin]

you need to mark it as thin. otherwise it looks wrong

also you can use normal maps for displacement effects. unfortunately i don't think albedo is possible right now 😦

[vivid falcon]

for albedo you need a layer of mesh on top of the glass

[ashen merlin]

what, duplicate the entire mesh?

[vivid falcon]

then you can assign albedo with transparent parts showing the underlying glass

[vivid falcon]

no, just a thin copy of it

[ashen merlin]

but you still need to make a copy of the mesh? i don't even know how to do that properly, lol

[vivid falcon]

you can get it from the captures, edit in blender, add it as the child of the glass with preserve original drawcall thing, then you can assign the opacity material with your albedo texture.

Kinda tricky but should work in theory

Or you can split the glass mesh into parts and assign different material

Anyhow this transluceny material needs a native solution 🙂

[ashen merlin]

mm that's quite annoying

i do hope it improves

[rugged forum]

So how can I get the glass coloured

[vivid falcon]

Change the transmittance color and distance

[ashen merlin]

did performance improve in recent Remix versions?

i'm getting 100+ FPS in the night barn for some reason now at native 800x600. it was like 60ish before iirc

[vivid falcon]

Let me take a look

[ashen merlin]

lol. new issue

[vivid falcon]

Yes there definetely is

Still not quite playable on my hardware

[ashen merlin]

what hardware?

every time someone tells me, i'm making a note on their profile now

[vivid falcon]

2060, dlss performance, 1080p, ~24

at best

[ashen merlin]

😦

the opacity issue is very frustrating

[vivid falcon]

It was horrible before this

something like dlss ultra performance 30FPS

[ashen merlin]

native 800x600, 3090

but it drops to 60 any time i move

[vivid falcon]

interesting

[ashen merlin]

it's a CPU bottleneck seemingly

my GPU usage drops to 65%

[vivid falcon]

Why there is so much CPU util

[ashen merlin]

the way path tracing and ray tracing work require it in its current form basically

i learned about BVH generation recently, but i'm not sure if that's the cause here

[rugged forum]

Probably the remix settings

But I still have the black screen issue

[vivid falcon]

Definetely not

[rugged forum]

Where it gets stuck on this screen but I can still hear the game running

[vivid falcon]

have you tried with this config

@rugged forum

[rugged forum]

Unfortunately this does not fix it

[vivid falcon]

Uhm there was some patches but I don't remember if they were neccessary

Probably not

[rugged forum]

I can get it to work on my desktop, although my game looks like this to be able to get a usable framerate

[vivid falcon]

Yeah the performance is horrible, what hardware do you have

[rugged forum]

Well my desktop has a 6600xt that is why the performance is so bad, but i still have to use dlss performance on my laptop with a 3060 to get 30 fps

Ok i got it to work on my laptop now

I'm quite sure it was the wrapper but I also changed the rtx.conf

seems to have been the config file

Here is the file. The settings won't be great but it works

But this newer version seems to have really improved fps

But i have issues

Ok that is fixed

had to mark some textures as ui

Now when i try save a setting my game crashes

wait nvm

I think that is another issue

Ok I found the isssue. The game for some reason doesn't like my enhanced assets that is waht was causing the black screen

But i can turn them on after the main menu and it works fine

[rugged forum]

decided to give the water the tranlucent material

[ashen merlin]

wow, i'm glad that works now. it didn't when i last tried

[rugged forum]

But I think the water is way too blue,

[ashen merlin]

yeah, and not translucent enough

when the toolkit comes out, i plan on putting a whole river bed under there

[rugged forum]

Would you have any clue to why enhanced assets cause the loading screen issue?

[rugged forum]

What is the toolkit supposed to contain?

[ashen merlin]

it's just a full development GUI for Remix. i'm guessing it'll be like USD Composer but much more customized for Remix

it'll make mesh replacements and all that easier

[rugged forum]

And from what I know there is also supposed to be an AI for something

[ashen merlin]

upscaling

from the initial demo of it almost a year ago in the morrowind video, i wasn't too impressed, but i'm sure it's improved since then

[ashen merlin]

i have to recommend using TAAU in Barnyard. it looks a lot cleaner than DLSS

[ashen merlin]

hmmm

so i replaced the spotlights with these flat meshes. this should allow me to set it as an emissive

however, it's not showing up in-game

it's just totally empty

not sure what's going on

ooohhh okay. i forgot that replacement meshes don't work, lmao

good job me

good news is that in theory, it does work

[tidal trout]

good job

[ashen merlin]

🙂

i'm very sad thouugh. i can't really do anything in this game until the mesh and light replacements work properly

[rugged forum]

I see why you want a riverbed now, I can't imagine how amazing it would look if we could have mesh replacements

[ashen merlin]

that water isn't animated, right? it's just static

[rugged forum]

It is animated

[ashen merlin]

hm. like, i know it moves down the river, but do the water ripples... ripple? if so, how did you manage that?

[rugged forum]

I just set the ripples as a ui texture which doesn't ruin the water, setting it as a decal doesn't look right but the waterfalls look better with it

[ashen merlin]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/commit/56352d731dce243258c94eb27a29c24f0d3da8c6

ooh this may fix some of the sky issues

😦 sadly not

[tame flume]

I'll give it a go with some DX9.0c games some time on Thursday.

What else am I gonna do, work in Unity? 😛

[rugged forum]

might've fixed SHAR

[ashen merlin]

SHAR?

[rugged forum]

Simpsons Hit & Run

[ashen merlin]

ah

i didn't think it had sky issues

[rugged forum]

I think it had an issue with the light from the sun

[vivid falcon]

@ashen merlin Do you still came across the inability to remove references issue in ov?

[ashen merlin]

yes

although this is on an older capture. i saw a PR to fix captures, so i'll try that

nope, same issue 😦