#G5/z89-5
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s110 and that's it
nice, S109 for me. i was eyeballing S118 with the extra overdrive charger as the next one to do
have had a few days of just no time to pay attention to the game, so we've def slowed down
but i think i wanna try and get a bit further before reinforcing again, s118 will be nice if I make myself do it
i have a lot of banked fuel for G5, so I may do a few runs tonight
I have to choose between rushing B23, B25, or B27. Which one should I do first?
In numerical order. 23 and 25 first, after that 27.
Should I rush BB1, or wait until stronger? I'm guessing the reason to clear it early is for farming purposes.
i built up some fleet strength first, but the extra scrap when you do clear it is v nice
I can 1-shot it with a 1.7 fleet apparently. I'll do it next run
have the artifact tree up to the resource nodes on lvl4, wonder if I should just spring to splicing now or continue buying all the cheaper stuff
my base6 multiplier is 1.42x but still seems like it’s gonna take quite a few extra runs to get all artifacts
it will unlock a few buffs, mostly to itself, that will be useful in next reinforce
yeah I was thinking my next reinforce would be 127 (did 109 and 118), which would net two splicing upgrades
This advisor is BS lol. Validated it at 8. Tried the battle putting the ship in each of the 10 squares, all failed to get a win.
i’ve had a few that just don’t seem possible, maybe it was from a prior update? only thing i can think of is that something changed in ship behavior that made an old result invalid. or the advisor is a liar
if it validates it as far as I know it literally runs the exact same battle just not visible...double check that your mods are what you think they are (I think there is maybe a bug with validating the advisor switching what is displayed but not changing what is equipped?)
also I just tested it in practice mode and got it no issues
bottom left corner
yeah I'm finding a few setups in the spreadsheet that are clearly incorrect
like what?
the one I was just looking at was B2 1.3x, that setup loses
that's not the first one I've come across, but can't remember the others
the advisor said 1 corvette/1 fighter so I swapped the frigate spot with a fighter and that won
which spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14zw0VbbPWhpc_fk4cMirsMMF9o2wMz6JgVzDudICidI/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Do you clear base 1 each run for the extra scrap?
if you can afford to and it's cheaper than other scrap sources - yes
B21 2.2 40.XX
Tinkered with the advisor and probably matched it. Where can I see the decimal places for FR used?
After you win I think
what node unlocks crew splicing
I just found it in the config file.
show_precise_fr_used under [Fleet]
what node gives you cruiser armor?
AT
spreadsheet shows B16 with cruiser armor at 1.7 and no cruiser armor at 1.95
how do you get in at 1.7 without it
this works but is real expensive:
bhodi's spreadsheet in the pins had a config for it that worked
I was looking at squall's before
yours is better, 93.81 vs 89.72
for people starting galaxy 5 any tips? and do you guys know who had the best run so far?
if you search z89 you'll find some people's run histories posted, I cleared the final battle in 20 runs but 19 has been done, idk if anyone has done 18
follow the spreadsheets in the pins for setups. go with your gut for which direction to take, but favour R nodes for a while before S nodes
this layout for B5B at 1.3x stats doesnt even work and isnt even close to winning
anyone got a working layout?
alternative doesnt work either but im not sure what L1 fighter means
I assume it means picking fighter from the L1 fabricator
ohh
but why would that make a difference if it still places only 1 fighter?
im probably just gonna use the 1.15 layout since that might work and im assuming the 1.3 layouts are made if you cleared the hazard
yeah, 1.15 worked fine
I don't know about this specific battle, but I think that squall's spreadsheet (and the ones modeling it in other subchannels) is more likely to be trustworthy and understandable
that's the way the other spreadsheet presents the data
Which is not ideal since the person who took that screenshot didn't have the Player Damage Type Indicators setting checked, but w/e
well it has this
so we see that it's frigate with armor, corvette with both CL and shield, and base fighter
im sorry who the hell created these layouts
one frigate with missiles other without???
just use Squalls spreadsheet
I'd use the one from Squall, but I assume that it is a typo that requires you have to try 2 whole possibilities instead of one to figure it out
yeah, found it, its a little more confusing but they all seem to work
pretty annoying that google doesnt allow you to zoom into the images and you gotta figure out the layouts from something that looks like this
not impossible though
you can zoom the whole sheet/page
not ideal, but works if you can't tell from the smaller image
oh yeah i can, just that the browser takes a while to resize it for some reason
probably a lot of elements in the website
Advisory says this is possible and it validated accurately, cannot find a configuration that comes even remotely close with these units
Thank you
Advisors correctly account for Hazards, right?
Well then I can't figure this one out because the hazard deletes half my team. If I put the fighters up top they eat most of the hazard shots, but then the rest of the team wipes without the armor damage.
Thank you this worked
I don't ever seem to have a sense of when grouping is better than lines and vice versa
Is there an optimal path order for G5?
Something like the wiki version of G1-G3
there are the spreadsheets for battle layouts, and if you search z89 you'll find some people's run histories posted, but there is not a walkthrough of it to my knowledge
Yeah I found the spread sheet didn’t know if there was one for FR use, starting FR needed, which section to upgrade etc.
Thanks tho, wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing anything
I cleared in 20 runs, 19 has been done, will obviously be influenced by what sector you are in when doing the runs
Correctly 115 trying to push for 116
and then it took something like a dozen more runs to buy it out after clearing the battles
Like first run do you what FR needed to clear the first hazard B6A
That’s my hope with first run
That’s what I was hoping there was a guide for 🤣
I can tell you I was in S118 when I started it, and my first run was this:
but beyond that, not sure, sorry
Well hopefully 116 is enough.
Also question about unstable, what’s the order for up upgrades
I suspect it is not enough based on other posted run histories, plenty of people not getting to B6A nor B run 1
Welp.
Also sorry for the ton of questions, I was able to max out crew and unlock splicing, but is says unlock in G5 but I don’t see where in G5, I swear I looked at all the rewards and non of them had to do with crew
uh, get the thing you feel you need most? and of course prioritize what is not leveled already as it has diminishing returns. what is available to pick is randomized every time though. Synth and cap/fighter stats are generally high priority items
last node in the artifacts
I see it now, would it be worth trying to b-line to spliced crew or getting surrounding upgrades first?
I would probably buy it last, personally - spliced crew will not do much when you first unlock them, and like with regular crew experience gain goes up 3x per sector (starting in S117 for spliced) so they will level a lot slower earlier on
Ahhh, noted, thanks for the help, I’m just getting to the point where I have 3.5dsys banked in G5 so I hoping to push 116 first before I use it up
so, is there any guide in which order its faster / easier to tackle hazard nodes?
in order of node numbers
as I thought, thanks!
Anyone got an idea why I can't clear B29H? I have tested several layouts from the linked google sheets. I am currently at 3.25x fleet power.
can't say anything, if you don't post how you're trying to clear it
As I said, I tried several setups from the google sheets. Here are some examples. According to the posts I have found I should be able to clear it with the setup from the first image.
wel
there's one
VERY big difference
between you and the sheets
they cleared the "enemy reinforcements" hazard
you didn't
I would suggest to do it
this layout on B46 gives 167 fleet resources used instead of 132 as promised
was there some update to the game?
oh my bad im on galaxy 6
I did all the (10-2)x(9-1)x8 combinations. Nothing worked. What did i miss?
this
did you try fighters in b1, 3 and 5?
Yes, all possible combinations: (10-2)x(9-1)x(8-0) combinations
yeah, it's cheated
@fading falcon @fallen leaf #1336079579734872217 message
this advisor is cheated, but game doesn't register that
#1336079579734872217 message
How? and how can i detect cheating advisor?
verifying advisor should work, but it has problem with bases
that's why I'm tagging sylv, as developer
and stunthacks as person whose tool I used
so no, this advisor doesn't work
Thanks for taking time answering.
it's advisor that would've showed if not for the 3-fighter one
since we need to wait for Sylv, to change that 3-fighter one
and I didn't find any 1.3x clear on spreadsheet
I thought, that it's better to just give you second one
but realistically speaking, in case of advisors consisting only of fighters
if you see that there's like no way that they work, since enemy overwhelms you
https://discord.com/channels/1023372620705566740/1388317656616271983
post in this channel
a lot of fighter advisors are cheated
verifying them works mostly, but for some reason doesn't work that well on bases
while, yes, you can clear some battles with only fighters, this is not the case, since your fighters are near-oneshotted, don't deal enough damage, and outnumbered
Thank you.
G5 B3A Used FR 15 1.3FD
B18 - advisor says these ships is a valid amount for this battle, but I cant seem to get the placements right. Any tips?
Try this?
I have a question regarding the google sheet: what are the F1 to F8 Nodes the F nodes skip calc talks about?
G5 BB1 Used FR 107 FD 2.1 One shot
Same as above, but if you grabbed both cruisers and have the starting one, it's Used FR 98
i am confused as to how one can beat B16 with hazard at 1.7x with 59 resources - the best I got was 63
Moving anything back (as far as I can tell) results in a loss due to hazard damage
Moving the corvette anywhere but dead center makes it die to hazard damage before it can do meaningful damage to the shotguns
i have brute forced the 4 cruiser/frigate positions to no avail
Try this?
interesting
that's better
59.49
oh whoops i put shields on by mistake
yeah that's it
thanks
G5 B27 Used FR 19 3.25FD
G5 BB2 37FR
never thought this was possible
Any idea how to beat B8A 1.55 with this?
this was the best I got in a few hundreds of tries
300 tries, 38.84
best I have is 38.26 🙁 :
Much better than me haha
eh, fractional doesn't matter so same as your 38.84
But, I'll keep trying until I find it, even if I have to go trough all options
I remember messing with that battle some, getting the 38 something and deciding screw it, good enough
I usually go until perfection for every stage I go trough
update quite a lot of things in the spreadsheets
but, this one, 5k options, quite hard, but I'll end up finding it
im just starting this galaxy, is it better to switch from top to bottom often, or just follow one path?
ty
Is there any sort of pathing guide for G5?
no
Is B26H possible at 2.35? Advisor says it can be done with 3 cruisers and 2 fighters but I'm yet to find a combo that works.
yes
assuming just the one hazard
this works, I didn't really try much else so not promising it is best
should i try for B25 or B27 first, I have started throwing myself at b25, but is that a mistake
hmm, seems my shipyards might need more love then, thanks
2.35 seems to be the minimum for that battle, roughly speaking
oh, then maybe I'm fine then, seems like it will just take a few expeditions
How do you guys achieve decimal points too? ex 45(.38)🤔
it is a setting, click the settings button in the top right of a fleet battle - the fractional amounts don't actually matter though, game chops them off
found it thank youu
Well.. I'm nowhere near "efficient" 😛
But I've cleared out a hazard in G5 while still in Z110
Where do i unlock spliced crew i dont find it ?