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#Synth Purity Challenge
harsh fable
wary oyster
or the wiki!
harsh fable
wikkis garbage...
clever vortex
thx!
spark jacinth
wikkis garbage...
Hard disagree
hybrid sky
When is it optimal to do synth purity 2?
leaden pollen
fire-rates without core-upgrades feel so sluggish, but I guess that's part of the challenge (currently doing synth1)
analog magnet
are you using beam and gattling at least? the damage doesn't matter so you want high fire rate weapons
cobalt crane
indigo cedar
Are there tips for completing Synth 1?
Do recipe levels still provide production speed buffs even though infinite and starting mats are disabled?
wary oyster
Yes they act like they're the highest level
If you want a guide there's this
https://usi.game-vault.net/wiki/Synth_Purity_Challenge_Guide
Otherwise just try piling up as much of every material as you possibly can, and try to keep it somewhat even
indigo cedar
So I should wait until I get this tier of mats to it's max recipe level before attemtping?
wary oyster
Yes
indigo cedar
Would level 60 matter? Or just want the lvl 52 reduced time costs?
indigo cedar
I was just unclear if there was any benefit I was missing for going past 52 lol. So just want all the crafting speed buffs, gotcha
spark jacinth
Yep, you have good logic.
wary oyster
yeah, the individual levels only grant synth points
leaden pollen
are you using beam and gattling at least? the damage doesn't matter so you want ...
that... makes a lot of sense, yeah. was using kinetic + 2LC 
spark jacinth
hybrid sky
Should I be doing Synth purity 2 once I max out t3 resources?
spark jacinth
you do it when you meet the synth speed requirements
hybrid sky
And that’s 2000 not including the advanced synth station bonuses?
hybrid sky
Is there a way to see what my synth speed is without the synth station? Or do I need to retrofit
spark jacinth
stats and info -> Synth -> Synth speed
ignore additive multiplier. Find Total Multiplicative multiplier, divide it by the multiplier from the Synth Station
result will be your synth speed without core
hybrid sky
So if I did my math correctly my synth speed without core is 3322?
Oh nice that means I can do the next challenge
spark jacinth
7506.1 / 2.25 = 3336.044 repeating, so yes
slightly off on the math but you got close enough to answer the "yes/no" question
hybrid sky
Awesome thanks for the help man I appreciate it!
waxen ember
Is this enough for synth 4?
spark jacinth
divide "total multiplicative bonus" by the "2x core: improved synth speed" value
and that will give you your synth speed without the core.
waxen ember
Is there any way to change it from being “e11” to like… normal notation
Cause I suck at maths and putting the 4.01e11 into ChatGPT gives me clearly wrong results cause it thinks its “to the power of” haha
analog magnet
what does "normal notation" mean in this context
scientific? like 4.01*10^11
or 401000000000 cause that is too wide
leaden pollen
you just add a zero for every number after E
so 1E4 is 10 000
or rather, you move the decimal one place to the right. so for 4.01e4 it's 40 100
spark jacinth
4.01e11 is the same thing as 4.01*10^11
But also you don't need to use chatgpt
the standard windows calculator (in scientific mode) can do this for you
you could also use calculator.net https://www.calculator.net/scientific-notation-calculator.html
spark jacinth
you could also use calculator.net https://www.calculator.net/scientific-notation...
or 1.78e11
which is more than the approximate requirement of 5e10 per the wiki.
analog magnet
e11 is easier to write in plain text than x10^11 so spreadsheet programs and such tend to use it
but traditionally that's engineering notation, which uses only powers that are multiples of three
so you'd write 4.010x10^11 as 401.0e9
mortal parrot
PSA: In the next version the synth challenge notifier will disregard the synth utility when determining whether a challenge is green/easy (since you can't level it due to no salvage). Hope that makes things nicer 😊
wide hawk
really dont like this challenge, such a pain to balance it once youre on your fourth one
lyric kestrel
just need smart synth, dont have to stockpile everything
wide hawk
just need smart synth, dont have to stockpile everything
hmm how many smart synth slots? i have some ai to spend havent unlocked any yet
sterile pollen
best layout to clear s6 boss in 1st syn challenge
analog magnet
synth challenge has no salvage and replaces damage/shield numbers, so we care about base fire rate and recharge speed. beam+gattling and continuous
sterile pollen
I was able to beat the first one with no T2 infinite. only the green bars +1, and no auto chip infinite
clever nymph
What estimated sector for synth 5?
leaden pollen
sector isn't as important as your synth-speed, and you'd want to look at about 5e23 speed
clever nymph
True, but the sector you're in often correlates to your stats
slow crescent
PSA: In the next version the synth challenge notifier will disregard the synth u...
should also ignore purple void buff too. got it green that way and tried it but utterly failed xD
muted flax
Im fightning on the first challenge when it got green haha
Having a bit of trouble,
should i try to reach T2 modules, or just keep hoarding materials? I'm not sure using materials atm is worth it
Currently taking 2 hits to die to the sector 5 boss.. didnt even reach sector6
spark jacinth
You want the T2 modules, yes.
synth purity challenge priority, in general, is Modules first, then hoard.
muted flax
You want the T2 modules, yes.
I'm not sure if my synth speed is up to the task
Do you think i should go back to farming a bit before tackling this challenge?
spark jacinth
Did you infinite the T2 materials needed for the damage and shield modules?
muted flax
not by a long shot haha
But the challenge glowed green, so I thought the wiki was not up to date
spark jacinth
if the challenge glowed green, you should be able to do it.
Did you actually enable the modules?
muted flax
Yeah yeah, but they started lvl 1 T1 and not lvl 1 T2
spark jacinth
correct.
muted flax
im working my way up to T2
spark jacinth
Yeah. How long have you been running it?
muted flax
2h
spark jacinth
I'm not sure if my synth speed is up to the task
Do you think i should go back t...
can you show the full page here?
muted flax
Maybe my shards are too low level, i didnt farm them enough
muted flax
spark jacinth
Modules?
muted flax
spark jacinth
extra battery and compute speed modules are pointless in this challenge.
muted flax
i know xD
spark jacinth
how long is taking you to craft the focusers?
muted flax
~3s give or take
spark jacinth
hm.
I don't really remember how long the first challenge took me the first time around, or what speed I was
quick question: do you have the synth utility core module unlocked?
Was that a thing you had available to you?
If yes, and you had that equipped, then the challenge flashing green might have been a lie.
muted flax
Hmmm
I had this
spark jacinth
you had levels in it?
spark jacinth
right
spark jacinth
then yeah, the challenge flashing green was likely a lie
it's when it indicates you can do it while you don't have that core equipped that you can trust it.
muted flax
no worries hahaha, live and learn as they say
Thank you for your time, gonna go afk a while now
spark jacinth
👍
slow crescent
Synth Purity 4 is really buggy on when it goes green, please bleep it if it naturally gets to it xD
not with the void buff
sterile pollen
it did for me :/
slow crescent
rip
spark jacinth
Synth Purity 4 is really buggy on when it goes green, please bleep it if it natu...
They've already got that in the pipeline.
Next release it will no longer take the utility core into account.
rain hamlet
Does Crew help with Synth Purity?
leaden pollen
it should. actually, crew probably is required to hit e23 speeds
I mean, I am running two crewmembers that boost synth-speed and I'm only up to 6e19, and that's with the synth station at level 270
spark jacinth
Yes, crew helps.
rain hamlet
Fair, much appreciated. Maybe I can do SP5 that way.
spark jacinth
The only source of synth speed that isn't available in Synth Purity is the Utility Core
and only because salvage doesn't drop
lapis schooner
is there a way to calculate ur synth speed without the core? so i can find out before i try the challenge
right now my core is 123,
and these are my stats
mortal parrot
Yeah next patch should improve this -- until then, it's a bit of a trap 🙈
mortal parrot
should also ignore purple void buff too. got it green that way and tried it but ...
Next patch also ignores void energy boost if it's active
slow crescent
Next patch also ignores void energy boost if it's active
good, ty 😄
twin root
Does not know if thats a bug or feature i dont understand. I am trying to do the challenge but i cant synth in the challenge the first of the rank 3. I'm on android if that helps. I didnt read everything i dont want to be spoiled.
image if I'm selecting it
twin root
It's asking for materials but it shouldnt as per the challenge explanation
lyric kestrel
and you cant get salvage in synth purity
twin root
So i can't use any of the blue in this challenge this time and that's normal? Because the same synth elements in t1 and t2 does not cost anything and i am just confused
lyric kestrel
t1 and t2 dont cost anything because their levels are high enough
i think you need to reach lv27 on t3 to not cost salvage
somewhere around that
twin root
Oh, I didnt understand that at all. thanks. okay I will try to finish the challenge (at least beating up the Sector 6 without blue synth elements)
lyric kestrel
go to settings and turn on show tooltips, then tap on a material here
twin root
Ohhhh, there is a ton of explanation there. i use the info tooltips, but didn't thought of trying it on the materials itself
Okay, level 27 is as you said reducing the cost of salvage to 0. Thank you so much, I had the answer in front of me in fact.
waxen ember
Is this enough for synth 5?
wary oyster
!wiki guide:synth
fallen ruinBOT
https://usi.game-vault.net/wiki/Guide:Synth_Purity_Challenge
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page guide:synth for a direct link or !wiki search guide:synth for a list of all hits.
waxen ember
Hella yeah so crew works?
wary oyster
Yeah crew works lol
lapis schooner
i dont think it is, but is this enough or even close to enough for challenge 4?
leaden pollen
take the "total multiplicative bonus" and divide it by 2.25
that gives you a rough estimate on your actual synth speed without the synth core
lapis schooner
oh dam, im around 2.3e10 atm,
idk where else to get synth speed at this point, i know my warp upgrades but it takes forever to just get one of those, and research takes a long time as well, im tryin to get another module slot so i dont want to grab a few points in the synth speed from synth itself.
i guess its just a waiting game then right?
leaden pollen
I'd say keep up the warp, and try to clear 50. that'll make going for more synth a lot easier
leaden pollen
no, actual sector 50
lapis schooner
ah ok
leaden pollen
the new feature you'll unlock will a: keep you busy for a while, and b: provide you with a lot more synth to take on the challenge
stray shoal
I'm trying to beat Synth Purity 4. does anyone know what the best loadout for defence and turrets are?
wary oyster
!wiki guide:synth
fallen ruinBOT
https://usi.game-vault.net/wiki/Guide:Synth_Purity_Challenge
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page guide:synth for a direct link or !wiki search guide:synth for a list of all hits.
inner loom
Using smart craft on synth challenge is funny)
willow maple
Ye, much better
lapis schooner
with smart craft whats the best thing to set it on?
wanton barn
just set it to your highest thing probably
then go to adjacent ones and ocne all those up a bit you can manually make all the low level stuff some more
fresh forge
Started SP1 at 19h30m and SP1 took me 3 hours to complete. I had lv 3 dmg/shields from synth points and lv5 synth speed.
I went through 10B for the earlier synth shard and unlocked challenges using base1 mult 12x just as I hit lv27 on the green bar.
wary oyster
SP Challenge Guide:
https://usi.game-vault.net/wiki/Guide:Synth_Purity_Challenge
toxic grail
sorry noob question... doing Synth 1 following guide. 2 questions. Assume compute is useless in Syth challenges - seems active is all. Up to T2 L5 on Damage and Shields modules, but anyone know why the Continuous Shields max value keeps changing randomly? Gets to 8.6e4, but then just drops right back... I keep trying to time Sector 6 Boss on a peak, but don't know why it's fluctuating. Obvs the shield values fluctuate with hits, but the max also moves - is this a feature of COntinuous Shields I hadn't noticed?
lyric kestrel
crafting a material can cost other materials
toxic grail
ahhh, OK, thanks, but what is the crafting process using that affects my Continuous Shield Max value?
lyric kestrel
your damage and max shields are based on the materials you have banked
sometimes crafting a material can reduce your total "worth" of your banked materials
toxic grail
Ahhh, OK, so at some point, just stop auto-crafting for upgrades and bank to max shields and damage then?
Perfect - did that and passed S6 boss - thanks!
lime slate
doing synth purity 2 right now, what's the ideal ratio for the materials for maximum gains?
lime slate
cleared it, here's what I had
sweet holly
Hey what's the best thing to synthesis on this challange
analog magnet
bars
the real answer is everything, on a curve, but bars are easier and "just a shitload of bars" is actually not THAT far off optimal
also make sure you build and upgade your actual damage modules
those get reset too and you have to remake them for the challenge
lime slate
how to use the spreadsheet?
analog magnet
spreadsheet is of dubious use
it tells you how many points/total crafting time each item is worth, which varies because some items have faster or slow ingredients
and ranks them from "best" to worst. but that's comparison is only true when you craft exact the same amount, the formula also has diminishing returns. the more you make of one thing, the less good that thing is
so if you have 1e30 of something, is it still "better" probably not
just make a little of everything for a few seconds until it slows down, and then make bars
lyric kestrel
t1
lime slate
yea figured, since if you make the others the t1s will go away
getting nearer to SP3, max synth speed is about 1.5e6 with synth station and I get about 6.7x boost from it, so getting to 2e6 synth and 4th slot should let me do it
should have the synth speed by the time I get 4th slot
I have this much synth speed now through the 3rd synth warp upgrade. Will this be enough without the 4th synth slot?
well the game says so
lime slate
took 50 minutes to complete, not bad
analog magnet
think about it logically. a 4th synth slot is +33% synth speed, plus some convenience
it's really not a big deal
sturdy quiver
The smartcraft AI look useful for this challenge is it right ?
wary oyster
Very
sturdy quiver
And is it useful to saveup synth point to buy more slot (the third is at 3k) or better to spend in synth speed ?
I feel like I need to choose, very early, between synth, void, salvage and compute
wary oyster
If youre very close to it it's worth saving up but at your point you're better off investing in the cheaper ones
tawdry spindle
i am stuck on 25b while doing the level 4 synth challenge. here is my synth page. i have been trying to follow the guide but i am not able to get any farther. https://prnt.sc/pfIEvnLJkCaN
exotic tulip
so I'm trying to do synth puriy 1 and I just don't get it
I feel like Im getting weaker, rather than stronger, over time
why does it even suggest t2 infinite materials, when infinite materials don't apply to synth purity?
lyric kestrel
if you have inf t2 you should have enough synth speed
exotic tulip
I have speed 25, but I don't understand how I could get more.
stats page shows nothing missing
lyric kestrel
did you craft and equip the 2 combat modules
lyric kestrel
you didnt equip them
wary oyster
!wiki guide:synth
wary oyster
How much I need to do the synth 4 challenge?
Looks like 5e10
blissful crag
Looks like 5e10
Oh! I'm too far from that... Lol
small heath
for sythn purity challenges, once i have modules for attack and shield max do i just same the alloy bar?
analog magnet
that's honestly not that far off. it would be a little faster to do a little of each material from the most expensive down
just make stuff until the amount you have stops increasing "quickly" whatever that means. but bars are the most efficient
small heath
ty
real topaz
Im so dumb I didnt realize I had to rebuild my modules after the challenge started.. been sitting here flip flopping material builds trying to clear the last boss on C1.. oof coulda had it done ages ago!
chrome tinsel
question
if infinity is disabled for this challenge
why does first challenge for this need T2 infinity?
wary oyster
Because you still want the levels so its faster
chrome tinsel
oh
analog magnet
what you need is a certain amount synth speed
which you have around when you get T2 inf
it's just a guide
chrome tinsel
oh
real topaz
when would be a good time to go for the 2nd level of this one?
t3 mats seem to be moving along quite slow compared to t2
analog magnet
guide's in the pins
real topaz
where do i figure out that base speed?
wary oyster
top left on the synth page
real topaz
oh that number.. LOL ok Im nowhere close to s2 then
blissful crag
Hey guys, is there a way to get more links in void device?
eternal phoenix
According to mathematical analysis, to get the highest damage/shield in a certain time, the number of materials should be distributed according to the weight of RecipeTime^4 / TotalRecipeTime^5. TotalRecipeTime is the total time required to craft this material, including its raw materials.
Maybe this analysis is wrong, but if it is correct, it means that crafting high-level materials is completely not worth it?
wanton barn
Im not sure where it might be wrong, but if the conclusion is that staying producing T1 only works thats definitely not correct
analog magnet
qualitatively: the diminishing returns means when you make a lot of something, that thing is worth less and less.
so at some point a small percentage of the cheap mats time value is worse than then large percentage of the expensive mats
eternal phoenix
It did start from a point, but if that model is correct, this point came too late.
here is the weighted amounts calculated base on data from wiki.
(and synth speed scale only time, not weights)
analog magnet
that was to get exactly enough damage to win s5?
eternal phoenix
These are just theoretical calculations, and these ratios are only the optimal solutions when the theory is correct.
These have not been validated yet, so I will test it as soon as possible.
analog magnet
if I follow, say you make e50 bars (e7 weight), the correct amount of special focuser (e-17 weight) would be ~e26
if that's right, then you math could be fine? and you were just underestimating the number of bars you make?
it's been a while since i did challenges so i honestly dont remember the numbers
eternal phoenix
that makes sense.
I may simply underestimated the amount of materials required for the higher level challenges.
but these weights should be correct.
eternal phoenix
here is the normalized weights, add up to 1.
the previous one didn't take into account that depending on the tier, a synthesis can result in multiple outputs (8, 12, 16 and etc.).
this one make more sense.
interesting results
high tier materials contribute very little quantity, but they take up a considerable amount of time for synthesis.
eternal phoenix
to be honest i dont know how these multipliers works cause i didnt unlock much high level materials. and Wiki did not mention this.
I can only guess that it increases linearly based on my limited observation.
wary oyster
to be honest i dont know how these multipliers works cause i didnt unlock much h...
Its specific levels of materials increasing the output of that material
If you hover over a material you see all the milestones
eternal phoenix
Those are the what I already know, but I am not sure how many such milestones there are for higher tier materials, and to what extent the output can be increased. (have unlocked ultra-tier materials so far)
However, unless it is an exponential growth, the impact on the final value should not be very significant. (The mathematical model itself is robust, and these possible variations only affect the input parameters)
nocturne ice
I dont think I'm understanding the challenge that well currently doing synth 3 and i have double the recommended synth speed on the wiki but the synth challenge specifically seems to take a long time compared to others? I definitly dont understand the math analysis yall were doing above if anyone has some pointers for this challenge
wary oyster
You wanna make sure you stockpile a lot of different materials
Do you have smart craft?
nocturne ice
yes i have smartcraft on the three slots i have ive stockpiled up to e4 on t3's aside from whats used to craft the t4's
wary oyster
just to make sure, your synth speed inside the challenge is double the recommendation?
nocturne ice
yeah its currently 6.24e5
wary oyster
well getting the fourth synth slot first will definitely help but it shouldnt make too much of a difference...
Are there any higher tier materials you can quickly craft or is t3 your highest?
(also you equipped your modules right?)
nocturne ice
im up to t5 materials but the orange bars take a couple seconds i can quickly craft t4 which is what im stockpiling atm
is the multiplier the number i should stockpile to im not sure what that means when hovering over during the challenge
wary oyster
what multiplier?
nocturne ice
wary oyster
oh thats how much that material currently affects your damage and shields
and total is the total damage and shield bonus from all of them
nocturne ice
i see im getting real close now i was just thinking i was doing something wrong cause of the time difference compared to other challenges
jagged river
hey guys, is the threshold for 5th challenge rly 5e23? i cannot finish with 1e24...
lyric kestrel
did you upgrade and equip modules
lyric kestrel
including combat enhancer?
jagged river
havent thought about that lol
ur right hahahah
i was desperate to save for synth mastery before that...
open moon
any tips for Synth Challenge 1? I have 2 smart synths... But im still stuck at sector 5 and cant kill the boss
wanton barn
make sure you use modules
and did you have the recommended synth stuff done for what it said on chalenge screen?
twin bridge
at what point would you guys say that beating the third one is possible?
Synth gotta be my favorite system in this game and the boosts you get for the completions are huge.
I just have finished all modules on T2 infinite and am working on the first four T3 modules, bars circuits orbs and waves
the second run took me quite a long time tbh.. I think I started that too soon. just barely unlocked T3 to get the damage and shield modules up and then stacked 1e4 of each thing, followed up by a ton of bars.
Took an entire day, because building the modules takes so long, but I did it^^
twin bridge
I answered the question myself by trying… no definitely not ready… I only managed to get to 18 out of 20
cedar gulch
What is the recommended synth speed to start challenge 2? Im at 8700 speed, is that enough?
analog magnet
What is the recommended synth speed to start challenge 2? Im at 8700 speed, is t...
challenges recently got changed a bunch, but i dont think they got harder. the old chart says 2k
so #2 should be easy?
twin bridge
What is the recommended synth speed to start challenge 2? Im at 8700 speed, is t...
I did mine with 2000 speed, but I would not recommend, since it took me 2 days
I just REALLLY wanted the multipliers^^
spring glacier
Trying to do synth 1, does upgrading defense and attack efficiency modules do anything or just farm materials into oblivion?
wary oyster
Trying to do synth 1, does upgrading defense and attack efficiency modules do an...
The modules matter too
spring glacier
Thanks for the help, I’m still fairly new to the game and looking at the guide, I couldn’t find anything specific. Maybe I wasn’t looking in the right spot
wary oyster
Yeah for Synth purity the guide doesn't tell you much beyond stat recommendations
Should probably be expanded a bit, but it is one of the simpler challenges
spring glacier
Yeah it wasn’t bad once I upgraded mods, quite easy really. I don’t mind suffering and grinding but I just couldn’t figure it out lol
hardy drum
The requirement for tier 5 on the wiki can be greatly reduced, I've done it in 12m (straight bee-line for S32) with 2e22 (all tier 7 infinite)
I think 1e21 is close to enough?
wary oyster
1e21 is like 3 oom lower, if it can really be done easily with that then yeah we should definitely update that
Lets say e22
I'll wait until I'm there in my current run just to confirm
hardy drum
I think I had enough power to win before I finished sector 5, I finished t7 damage/shield/compute modules by that point and had more then enough stats for the boss I think
wary oyster
Could you maybe send me one of your sector saves from shortly before you did the challenge? Just wanna make sure I get a good value for the wiki
Definitely thanks for noticing
hardy drum
This save should be before and more than strong enough
hardy drum
Oh also the base challenge 5 is a small overestimate, I did it with tier 4 drain reduce on base 4 (and everything else lower accordingly)
That save might also be before I did base challenge 5?
wary oyster
I'll check yeah
That one is a bit easier to test though cuz you can theoretically just calculate
analog magnet
i think optimizing base challenge is difficult
because it depends on buildings levels, not just slots
and those levesl might then alter the minimum winning layout
and people will have different leves in different orders
so honestly for the best we can do on the wiki is a modest overkill strat
wary oyster
yeah I think that makes sense. There's just too many variables, especially in later bases
young robin
Base damage = 8.5 x synth power and base shield = 5 x synth power??
hardy drum
I think 1e21 is close to enough?
So in my ||R1|| run I've just done synth 5 challenge with 3e20
and it wasnt even close
3m to be strong enough to finish it
hardy drum
The win condition is tier 7 (blue) attack and defense modules at lv7 or so
And nothing else
So it's probably even doable with 1e19 in under 10m
rose junco
I'm probably just dumb, but I read this as 1 = x damage and shield multiplier, but I have 12 at the time of this screenshot and it doesnt even come close... So what am I missing?
hardy drum
It's diminishing returns
onyx folio
It feels like I'm missing something on Synth 5.
Like, I got to 32, maxed blue weapon and shields. Doesn't look like there is anything else I could do but AFK it. But when I tested that by trying 6 hour warps to see how long that would take, I'm looking at 18 hours.
Are you not meant to get synth 5 done while half way through all blue synths?
my current blue progress
lyric kestrel
It feels like I'm missing something on Synth 5.
Like, I got to 32, maxed blue w...
whats your synth speed
onyx folio
During the challange I was at 3.27e16
lyric kestrel
recommend like e23
onyx folio
1.25e18 during a regual run
Hmm, Just started on this, and see the combat enhancer. Will that do the trick?
I imagine that e23 is for the "quick sub hour" goal, but I'm usially been pusing the synth purities at about 4-6 hours cause I like getting them as soon as I can
onyx folio
Alright, max blue shield and weapon, and only 1 level in combat modual. I was able to beat Synth 5 in about an 1:45.
cores I had equipped
torpid depot
analog magnet
1:45 clear with 2e17 synth speed (possibly not optimal)
10 min clear with 2e19 synth speed
good info
torpid depot
yeah, the suggested 2e21 synth speed is way too high.
analog magnet
the wiki hasnt been updated in a hot minute
the goal to clear was reduced a whole sector lol
wary oyster
Oh shit
The e21 is already lowered from before
Any ideas what a good new guideline would be?
e17 fine I assume?
wary oyster
the goal to clear was reduced a whole sector lol
When did that even happen lol
analog magnet
two hours is too long for the wiki rec imo, so 2e17 could be too low
but that's with reasonable play. we dont know if that guy did well or not
all we know for sure is that 2e19 is definitely enough
wary oyster
Alright let's settle on that for now then
Until someone does it with e17 and complains that e19 is too high lol
analog magnet
if no one is complaining it's perfect qed
onyx folio
The biggest difference is the combat module. Without it. Pretty much a no go.
torpid depot
just as a note, I didn't do any stockpiling for that 2e19 run. I just made a few basic modules then left sword shield and combat to fill (Atk and Def were both done. As seen in the pic, combat was still lvling).
latent jackal
Anybody know if for Synth challenge 5, with 5e19, you need to actually be able to craft T8 stuff? Because I can craft 10/10 T7 but the jump to T8 is pretty absurd. And I'm still like 3 sectors from my goal...
onyx folio
Anybody know if for Synth challenge 5, with 5e19, you need to actually be able t...
Biggest thing is you need to make the combat module. Took me only like 2 hours with 2e17, so e19 should be a breeze as long as you can craft the module
This one
latent jackal
Biggest thing is you need to make the combat module. Took me only like 2 hours w...
Right. I ended up smashing it in like 1 minute. Unsure why it felt like a struggle at 2e19
bleak dew
which resources do you tend to make to build up multiplier? I know that hoarding a single material has diminishing returns, but higher tier materials consume the lower tier ones and the multiplier is only based on their build time, not the buil time of their components, which would make higher tier resources a bit inefficient. Should i just hoard a ton of T1 materials?
wary oyster
which resources do you tend to make to build up multiplier? I know that hoarding...
You start with the highest you can craft a lot of quickly, then work your way down
Smart craft will fill in a lot of the blanks
But you do want a good selection of the different materials, not just T1
gloomy sun
What is recommended speed for synth purity 4?
Synth speed 5e10
How do you increase your synth speed other than the synth point upgrades and the reactor?
novel crater
Dumb question, when doing the Synth challenges, is there a relatively easy way to know how/when to buy the upgrades vs just stockpiling up the materials when tryign to advance?
bleak dew
Dumb question, when doing the Synth challenges, is there a relatively easy way t...
the only way to tell exactly is to look at the boss stats in "Sector Data" and calculate the exact combination of synth bonus and module bonus needed to defeat it
the way i did them was to get my damage,shield,void drop,void power modules somewhere between lvl 3-5 of my highest available tier. Then i picked a numer that reasonably achievable, and crafted number / craft time of each resource starting from T1 moving up. If that's not enough, either increase number by 10 and do another round or upgrade damage and shield mods higher
bleak dew
How do you increase your synth speed other than the synth point upgrades and the...
warp upgrades and base 3 are going to be huge bonuses
analog magnet
the diminishing returns on higher products is pretty harsh. make them until you stop getting more "fast"
items provide power based on their own base crafting time, but they cost more than that because you still have the crafting time of all of their prerequisites
hybrid locust
is syth speed 22 enough for tier 1 challange? cuz i dont have most of the tier 2 materials maxxed yet just alloy.. xd
wary oyster
Yeah that should be enough
minor prawn
sharing my results for solving synth purity tier 1
synth module upgrades - offense efficiency tier 2 level 4/10 -- defense efficiency tier 2 level 2/10
v device - red/synth shard 3, orange/flex shard 3, pink/power shard 3, blue/battle shard 4
reactor - boost synth speed 1
warp upgrades - materials improvement (leftwards) 3/4, synth improvement (then downwards) 3/10
synth speed 37.45 (maybe half this? I'm looking at the results after finishing the challenge)
minor prawn
is sector 17c a trap route for synth purity 2? I'm getting destroyed at the boss
with t4 weapons 6/shields 5
never mind, I think I'm doing synth purity 3, not 2
distant mauve
whats a good synth speed recommendation for synth purity 5/5?
wary oyster
whats a good synth speed recommendation for synth purity 5/5?
2e19
distant mauve
Thanks,im at e17 right now 🙂
shy phoenix
What level of synth speed for first challenge?
wary oyster
What level of synth speed for first challenge?
Around 20
tame lark
arround one i should go for synth 2 ?
shy phoenix
Wiki says 2k without utility core
uneven crater
My synth purity challenge just flashed me green but I am unsure if I can actually do it since I have my synth core maxed before the notification hit. Does the notification just read your current stat or does it consider that you have a synth core and subtract that? I have a synth power of 4.81e22 but don't know how to calculate what it is without the core
uneven crater
Okay I tested stuff, it seems like it was correct that I could do the synth challenge, without the core I went down to like 2 or 3e22
shy phoenix
The in-game notification flashes green when you can 'easily enough' complete the challenge
humble ivy
finally!!
craggy pilot
Did someone explained how this works ?
What does "multiplier 30" means when I have +-76 crafted
I thought it's gonna count 30x "total crafted"
wanton barn
thats just the base one, theres a formula shown elsewhere for how it actually calcs
blissful yoke
Does retrofiting equipment to 2.0 helps in this challenge?
I guess just with range for weapons right?
lyric kestrel
just range
maiden thicket
dont know if its useful for anyone but on synth 3 i was able to beat it with lvl 1, tier 5 modules with 1.5e8 mult, could probably get away with 1.3-1.4e8 (this has almost certainly been sent here before but im just posting my results for any newer peeps who dont wanna scroll through messages looking for it)
for strategy i pretty much literally only focused on modules and alloy, the rest of the materials dont really seem to matter if you have enough synth speed
lime crest