#Core Computing Challenge

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polar quartz
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Yea that’s how I felt

fleet bridge
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on S20, u try beam with V3 and get up to tracking?

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I think if I let this sit until I can get tracking and the enxt one (V3 beam laser to lvl 70) I can get through

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4.25E+30 scrap is a lot though

astral zenith
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you in challenge meaning you killed less than 1000 waves

fleet bridge
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yeah i know?

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im just saying maybe nothing we can do but kill more waves

polar quartz
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You still just crushing waves trying to get the multi up?

fleet bridge
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Ya

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Farming 4e30 scrap for the x71 damage on a v3 laser

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1 retrofit left. So once I'm at 1000 waves i can save and try stuff

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I'm at like 700

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But thats like 6 hours...

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No idea how people did this at earlier stages.

@small trout any input? 🙂

polar quartz
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You think with a v3 laser beam you can smash it to the end?

astral zenith
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you are not affording a v3 in s52

polar quartz
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Compute just too low at this level?

astral zenith
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you need to be filling 1.1 cap+++ to afford v3

polar quartz
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Yea I’m not that far. So should I just wait to do the challenge?

fleet bridge
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Many posts say people do in at 49

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And even 43?

polar quartz
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Cause I’ve tried the bomb and kinetic strat and I barely get past the waves

fleet bridge
astral zenith
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in challenge v3 lv70 is worse than v2 lv110

fleet bridge
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I can always go back

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Wanted to try

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But I'm almost 1k waves

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And still can't beat 20

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Suggestions ryan?

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Also fyi pin says to use v3 😉

astral zenith
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thats the old pin that wants you to be s68+

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old pin: afford v3 with cyber specialist salvage redirection
new pin: afford v2

fleet bridge
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The new pin..bombs...so much worse. Cant kill anything

astral zenith
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for bombs you are meant to cheese boss

fleet bridge
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Meaning?

astral zenith
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turn on auto advance until you reach boss
then reload game to clear normal enemies

fleet bridge
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Oh haha

small trout
fleet bridge
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Ic

tight wolf
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that's not the case lol

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the 1 hour+ strats were about trying to beat CC5 with T1 laser beam

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max T2 beam and T2 bomb is plenty to beat CC9 without very much farming

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crew is not necessary, let alone CS level 51

fleet bridge
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i get curb stomped

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thats how much damage he takes

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so i think somethign aint right

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not even in the same OOM's

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astral zenith
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s20?

fleet bridge
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Yes, I need to beat that before.I can beat s21?

astral zenith
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s20 is max damage bomb not support bomb

fleet bridge
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There more than one bomb?

astral zenith
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2.0 means v2

fleet bridge
astral zenith
fleet bridge
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Pic showed dif?

astral zenith
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its the opposite of what you had

fleet bridge
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Or thats for s21?

astral zenith
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almost

polar quartz
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I’ve done with those core nodes and still get worked.

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In s20

fleet bridge
astral zenith
fleet bridge
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Lemme try

astral zenith
fleet bridge
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Well damn. It worked lol

astral zenith
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and for s21 swap bomb back to your original setup

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and change 1 kinetic cannon to max damage

polar quartz
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When I was doing it I kept getting killed before boss. Did you do the cheese where you close the app?

astral zenith
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yes

fleet bridge
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Why does first bomb do like 0 damage

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2nd one kills instantly?

polar quartz
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So I’m back trying again. Did grinding out waves for the tracking node help you think?

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Sounds like s20 is the problem and s21 went quick?

fleet bridge
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Do the bomb load out

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But for s20...do top row

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S 21 bot bot bot top (rest same)

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You gotta force ur way ro s21 boss. Save reload. Like 5 times

polar quartz
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Same for s20?

astral zenith
polar quartz
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So I force my way to the final part of the stage, save, then close the app and restart?

tight wolf
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yeah that will despawn the enemies

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useful trick, especially anywhere the enemies are weak to something different than the boss

polar quartz
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Oh wow it’s much easier when you do that

ancient tree
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Hi guys, struggling to get to S21 😦 Here is my setup ... every bit matters, at least for me, even crew, synth and shards ... since I'm only a lev S56 grinder ... Could you assist? 😄

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astral zenith
ancient tree
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yes?

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your reshare doesn't help 🙂

astral zenith
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all your weapons are wrong

ancient tree
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ok ...

astral zenith
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what sector are you currently at in challenge

ancient tree
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S21

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tring to finish it

astral zenith
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use all 2.0 weapons, 1 bomb 5 kinetic cannon

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bomb use this

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1 kinetic cannon

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4 kinetic cannons

ancient tree
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doped to S19, because I can't kill them 😦

astral zenith
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turn on auto advance until you see threat imminent message

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then save and reload game

ancient tree
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ah, ok, on it

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brilliant !! :))) done 😛

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is there a point to go into Challenge mode?

astral zenith
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endless mode no

ancient tree
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awesome, next Synth 😄

desert escarp
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Quick question from a new player. Just started first compute challenge, and I think I screwed up. Using the same ship I'd been running with in s28 (Heavy Cruiser with T2 weapons/shields). I'm now just over an hour into the challenge, and have all bars maxed on the compute screen. However, haven't gained enough salvage to do even 1 core upgrade yet on weapons or shields (I did max out the compute utility core). At this rate, looks like the challenge will take a LONG time. Should I just abandon it, and restart with T1 weapons?

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Also, core upgrades don't show the "10X" bonus promised on the challenge screen. I assume they happen anyway, but just don't show in the graphic?

brazen scaffold
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restart the challenge with T1 weapons/shields

desert escarp
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That's what I thought. Would be nice if they put a hint like that in the challenge screen

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Did just verify (finally had enough salvage to buy a weapons upgrade) that you get 10x the boost from what it says on the buy button 🙂

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The flip side is, I could do through sector 3 without any upgrades at all. Gonna let it sit offline for while, then come back and see if I can finish it with the boosts I can buy then. If not, then I'll restart it.

desert escarp
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LOL yeah, less than 15 minutes through challenge 2, starting 3 now 🙂

desert escarp
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OK, another question on the challenge. I'm on challenge #4 (clear sector 14). I have all compute bars maxed, and am to the point where I have lots of unspent compute points. So, when I spend them on the advanced compute tab, it doesn't actually increase my cap, like it should. I've also noticed that since this has been the case, as my compute power and speed are increasing, my salvage rate does not seem to be increasing. Is this normal?

astral zenith
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advanced compute simply works like normal compute in challenge

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instead of increasing basic compute's caps, advanced compute also generates salvage

desert escarp
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Thanks for the answer. I guess it's me then, cause it doesn't seem to help with the salvage rate. I'll keep an eye on it.

desert escarp
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Can you retro-fit during a challenge?

brazen scaffold
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yes

desert escarp
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Thanks. I guess I coulda done that earlier today, instead of restarting 🙂

solar token
solar token
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im S49 and should be able to do CC7, but S18 boss 1-shots me. the guide says I should be using beam 2.0, 5 laser 2.0, 3 bulk 2.0. all other settings match the guide. what am i doing wrong?

small trout
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improved tracking?

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from pins

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small trout
solar token
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wiki doesnt even show the base range of the different weapons, frustrating

small trout
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its shown in game

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why would you need wiki

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v3+ dont change after on range

small trout
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it wasnt complicaded

dense mountain
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I’m using this but not coming further in S20 any tips?

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astral zenith
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screenshot core

dense mountain
astral zenith
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have you beat s19 or just reach

dense mountain
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Beat

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Got kicked back 😬

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I’m always reading the wiki and here before i ask 🙃

astral zenith
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when you reach s20 boss, save and reload game to despawn normal enemies

dense mountain
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I’m not even coming to the boss first enemies are shooting me dead already

astral zenith
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you can turn on auto advance

dense mountain
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It worked thank you for helping 🙏🏻

shrewd stratus
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I'm having trouble passing the third Core Compute challenge, unable to go past the first half. Any suggestions?

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astral zenith
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dont use laser boost cd on beam

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use 1 more laser boost cd on a laser cannon

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for cc3 you also need to be filling damage 4 and shield 4 at max speed

shrewd stratus
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I'm doing the build according to the wiki.

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One Tier 1 Beam Laser and three Tier 1 Laser Cannons.

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With two Tier 1 Bulk Generators.

astral zenith
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(also compute shard in red)

shrewd stratus
spark briar
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Hey, I’m pretty new and trying to do cc2 (very new indeed)
But it feels super hard even after I’ve put all my buffs into computing.
I feel like I have the wrong weapons maybe.
What is a good setup to do for this challenge ?
I’m using beam charging Gatling
One of each

brazen scaffold
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try one beam and two laser cannons

restive falcon
fossil kraken
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Why are so many points left over?

waxen rose
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You get a use for them soon

astral zenith
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10 is filling at max speed

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you cant put any more

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need the upgrade from base 2

fossil kraken
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Ah...well, Base 2 is barely online for now, so I guess I'll get through sector 11, then abandon.

fossil kraken
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For Core Computing, do I choose Shield Synergy, or do I choose Damage?

small trout
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shield synergy,,, for 90%... just chk sector... if they have shields you have answer... if they dont swap to regular damge bonus... but shouldnt really notice stall out except final stage

fossil kraken
buoyant sphinx
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should i run the enemy wave insta spawn module to farm the damage % better in 17a?

small trout
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if you can kill fast enough it will speed up the waves killed

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but if its pushing you out of sector... then do that in s4

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so 17a 16 a are same... if it work stay there... if you drop to 15 then just drop to 4..

buoyant sphinx
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worked fine for me in 17a ty!

fossil kraken
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If I start CC, will it still keep going if I close the game?

small trout
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if auto progress is on it will stop at last boss

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it cant continue if you beat challenge as it needs you to confirm continue or it auto prestiges out

fossil kraken
small trout
fossil kraken
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So, since I can't get through even half-way of 18, I should just grind the Improved Tracking/Ablative Shielding?

small trout
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yep

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while still buying lvls on damage and shield cores

fossil kraken
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Fair enough. 👍

small trout
# fossil kraken Fair enough. 👍

you should only need about 2hrs to complete.. if you start pushing 3 you might want to consider droping out... but thats a you call... on whats reasonable time frame

fossil kraken
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I mean, I'd expect instant results (either I destroy the boss or I come back to it later), but...I guess grinding it is.

tight wolf
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the time curve on core computing is crazy

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you get x10 damage from weapon levels (salvage) and x10 from improved tracking

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if you're willing to wait hours, you can beat like two challenges ahead

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if you're not willing to wait 20-30min and want to win as fast as you can fly to the boss, you have to be like two challenges behind

kindred hedge
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I am having a major issue trying to figure out under Compute for this challenge, how much "Salvage per second consumed" to put in for this. I am only on the challenge to clear Sector 8.

Is there somewhat of a formula anyone has put together to calculate what I should have?

Also, should I be trying to figure this out with "Include Drains On Approximate Income" under Settings On/Off?

tight wolf
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how many compute bars are fully green / what is the name of the last one that is

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this is about what you need

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bleak jacinth
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Is there no way to generate more salvage if all the bars are maxed?

waxen rose
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Not at your current point

small trout
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you need unlock from base

bleak jacinth
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Oh thanks J just realized I could afford that lol

bleak jacinth
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Damn it’s still crazy slow

brazen scaffold
hasty forge
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I'm confused and not sure I'm missing something. trying to do the Computing challenge 2, and my scrap income seems abyssmal. my Damage/Shield 2 are capped on computing, which I've seen is supposed to be enough. yet I'm barely getting any scrap and my weapons are just tickling enemies passed sector 5

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sometimes it even shows my scrap income going negative, am I missing something?

astral zenith
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you are using 1.0 weapons/shields right

hasty forge
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I think I have a mark 2 shield mixed in, but would that affect the weapons at all?

astral zenith
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it shouldnt

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🤔

hasty forge
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hmm ood, I swapped out the mk2s and it seems to be going better for some reason, though now I'm stalling in sector 7 instead of 5

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This should be enough right?

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astral zenith
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yes

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whats your core nodes look like

hasty forge
astral zenith
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use 1 beam 3 laser cannon

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beam all damage nodes
laser cannons all bottom nodes

hasty forge
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same issue :/

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could using the heavy cruiser somehow be affecting things?

astral zenith
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just use the best ship you have

hasty forge
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stalling in sector 7 again

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is it just supposed to take a long time or something and I need to just let it build up scrap for a long time?

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like this right?

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astral zenith
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change beam laser shield damage synergy to weapon power

hasty forge
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anything else?

astral zenith
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should be right other than that

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or maybe you have to reach lv70

hasty forge
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guess I'll have to just let it sit for awhile and see if I can ge the next level of upgrades

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@astral zenith didn't take as long as I thought it would. once I got the next upgrade on the Beam laser I was able to clear it. thanks for the help

winter void
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I have rather general challenge question than specific one: you can't start from bases on any challenge, right?

astral zenith
bleak jacinth
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I should be able to complete the last 2 core computing challenges with this high of compute stats right?

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Wiki says 10 Cap+ but I want to be sure

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I’m starting to wonder if I should have done it a long time ago and that’s why progress is so damn slow

tight wolf
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yeah you can do them pretty soon after you get the destroyer

bleak jacinth
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Sweet I finished them last night

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Still stuck in sector 54 though

zenith basin
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a bit confused about the recommended build for sector 20 in core challenge 9
my bulk shields 2.0 are level 200, but the waves still murder me almost instantly

astral zenith
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you are not meant to tank the waves

zenith basin
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oh, so just dash through to the boss and smack him?

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feels suuuuuuuuuuuper cheapo

chrome sundial
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How long should I farm for salvage in in c9?
I just dont deal enough dmg to get past the wave before the boss. (s20)

tight wolf
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you will be against just the boss, no enemies

chrome sundial
gritty nebula
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what is reccomended for 2nd clear?

hollow prawn
hasty forge
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What am I missing for the later compute challeges? Wiki just says you need to hit 10+ cap, but I seem to be stuck on challenge 8 (I have cleared up to sector 50 so far). Do I just need more compute power from base 2 or crew upgrades or something?

astral zenith
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what sector have you cleared in challenge + what core setup

hasty forge
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Couldn't clear past 18, was using beam laser + rest laser cannons on laser boost

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er, I mean the node that increases laser damage

astral zenith
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all 2.0?

hasty forge
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was only getting like e25 scrap, not sure if that's supposed to be enough or not

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the beam was 3.0

astral zenith
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everything needs to be 2.0 including beam

white belfry
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I’m having a lot of troubles beating challenge 8, I’m doing what the wiki says to use but I’m having no luck

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I’m just confused, can anyone explain what I’m doing wrong here

astral zenith
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you are missing a more than 1000x damage

sinful magnet
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when determining if you can complete a CC challenge, does compute increase from void reactor matter?

waxen rose
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Yes

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Reactor works in the challenge

hard beacon
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how long is compute 8 supposed to take?

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this is my core setup

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seems like im just stuck at S18 boss

scarlet obsidian
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I don't see it in your Core screenshots, but are you using the Advanced Computer Lab utility?

hard beacon
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yes

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retrofitting to a 2.0 laser helped clear sector 18, but i have the same problem with S19 now

scarlet obsidian
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Err... I replied to wrong part of that thread, but if you follow it you'll see someone else in same situation as you describe

hard beacon
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yeah, i saw it

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thanks

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seems like I just have to hang in there

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phew i did it :)

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I think i just forgot to manually trigger the laser boost for this last boss x)

astral zenith
magic bone
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How much time do I need to Idle in stage 4 to stack Improved tracking for 9 challenge? Rn I'm at x16 still

astral zenith
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you dont need to idle in s4 to farm tracking

magic bone
astral zenith
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you are not supposed to survive a hit from the boss

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you are supposed to kill the boss before you get hit

magic bone
waxen rose
waxen rose
covert tendon
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Are these stats not good enough for the final compute challenge? I’ve done all the other challenges, completed all the warp upgrades and am following the guide but the sector 19 boss 1 hit KOs my before I even start doing damage

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Using the compute build from the wallbreaker guide with at least 70 points for each crew member allocated and the in game guide says I should be able to complete the challenge

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Any tips?

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(Using the guide in this thread but I don’t know if it’s outdated or anything)

astral zenith
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screenshot core

covert tendon
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Same build as the guide

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astral zenith
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and that doesnt clear s19
weird

covert tendon
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Yeah I get OHKO by the boss

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Can’t figure out why

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Been grinding out the wallbreaker stuff so everything else has crawled to a halt, I just need to max compute to get past the hump but 19 is a hard stop for me

tight wolf
# covert tendon Can’t figure out why

ok, on the one hand you're doing this late enough that you can swith to 3.0 weapons and sheilds which should make it trivial. on the other hand, you're doing this late enough that it should also be easy with 2.0, because it's possible with 2.0 from much earlier on

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something is messed up

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if you willing to post your save export on a paste website and link it i'll take a look

fresh grotto
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and im almost capping out 1.1 + +, where the wiki recommends 10+, so apparently im strong enough to be able to run CC 6 straight afterwards

tight wolf
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to be clear, we get a continuous stream of "build doesn't work" in here, just scroll up

tight wolf
pallid rivet
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hmmm, I cant think of any changes that wouldve effected this all that recently

sudden wave
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For record this reaches s21 but anything there will oneshot you

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Using beam3 as same level as bulk

tight wolf
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did you try the despawn cheese. get to the boss, save and quit, reload and there will be no small enemies

sudden wave
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yes I done it that way

fervent socket
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best ship build for CC1?

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oh wait I didn't scroll down enough

fervent socket
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I'm on CC2 now, at the last boss, but I always die after killing the shield bc the hull takes forever to ill. How to get past it besides more grinding?

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Even with the despawn cheese I only get the hull down to half hp

astral zenith
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laser cannons on supportive routing(lv70)?

fervent socket
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would take too long

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beat it anyway

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needed to farm more waves for the dmg and shield boost to kick in

astral zenith
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ok
(next time you will need them)

fervent socket
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yep I will

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but that's some time away

fallow horizon
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could someone add a reminder to softcap Improved Tracking for the challenge to the pins or smth? Me and someone both ran into the issue where we forgot to grind the waves and basically handicapped ourselves by trying to clear the boss and not focusing on clearing waves to get that one up. I think it's easy enough to overlook that it's worth a mention

fresh grotto
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any advice for CC 9, im at s20 with capped out improved tracking, following the wiki guide for that sector of it whilst almost maxing out 2 + +

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tight wolf
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are your weapons 2.0

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if you're not close, something is wrong. if you are close, just clear some waves and wait. the time scaling in core compute challenge is pretty intense with the 10x value of weapon levels and 10x improved tracking (despite soft cap)

solar swallow
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I must be an idiot. I am struggling so hard with getting this challenge going. I can barely get past sector 6 with this loadout for compute 2. What am I doing wrong? I cant use t2 because I am not getting nearly enough scrap. I need the beams for sheilds and the charge laser for those sniper ships. I am at a loss as to what to do.

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astral zenith
calm steppe
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is there a specific ratio for salvage consumed for optimum results

astral zenith
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1% works alright really

autumn cypress
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finally done with cc 9, harder than i anticipated but i’m glad to be rid of it ✅

wintry barn
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I'm currently doing cc7, but the boss is whooping my ass in 1 shot.
I have 1.1cap+cap+ maxed and "normal" max sector is at 44,
so the wiki guide says I should be able to even do cc9 even though it would take a long time.
Loadout is 5x Laser Cannon 2.0, 1x Beam Laser 2.0 and 3x Bulk Generator 2.0.
And computer lab & reactor utils.
Shards I have the setup suggested, with V-linking Red Flex and Blue Compute.

Is it just about waiting longer or smth?

astral zenith
wintry barn
# astral zenith core nodes?

This was 12 hours ago. I moved on to other challenges. 😛 I think maybe the problem was that I used 5x Laser Cannon 2.0 instead of 1.0 like the guide said. I just figured since I should be able to do up to cc8 according to the wiki that I'd use 2.0 because that's what it said I should use to do cc8. I ended up doing cc4 to cc6 in one go and then moved on to other challenges.

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I had all the core nodes unlocked btw.

astral zenith
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2.0 should not be the issue

astral zenith
wintry barn
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I had 2 of the lasers on allowing perma-Laser Boost and I think I maximized damage otherwise.

astral zenith
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laser cannons should be all bottom row

wintry barn
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That might've been the problem. I tend to put the longest range stuff at the back.

tight wolf
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put explicit core nodes in the guide for the "normal" strategy, with some explanation. maybe that will help a bit

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wintry barn
pastel parrot
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I think the guide should also mention something about "save scum" I think i found it called here on discord 😄 currently very difficult to find out that one should respec to kinetic at S20 then use save scum to actually get to the boss and avoid being killed by the normal enemies

sacred loom
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What are the stats without save scumming?

tight wolf
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not sure. you might need T3. defense is worse than offence by a good amount

sacred loom
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Just did it. Lvl 70 T3 Bombs + 1 T3 Kinetic, 4 T2 kinetics. 2 deflectors, one shield (shield doesnt matter, deflectors are the key).

fathom river
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Hello
I don't know what's wrong, but even according to the guide I can't pass stage 2 of the trial. The damage is only enough for the shield, then boss kills me
Can someone explain?

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tight wolf
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level your shields to 60, that node matters a lot (10x)

fathom river
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Hmm...
Ok, thanks

fathom river
dire blaze
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How do I clear sector 20 and 21? My normal progression is sector 54 but im stuck at 20 in the challenge

fossil lichen
dire blaze
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I swapped to 3.0 bomb and 3.0 kinects, the rest were 2.0 kinects for support

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Waited for a night and then completed the challenge

languid ocean
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I am likely being an idiot but I am struggling to beat the Sector 19 boss in Core Computing 8. Capped 1.1 Cap+ Cap+ but the boss can melt me in a single shot after being delected once and I have no hope of killing it before it can get off two shots

astral zenith
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screenshot your core

languid ocean
astral zenith
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beam should be 2.0

languid ocean
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Shine on

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Well back to the start! Thanks so much!

astral zenith
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you can retrofit

languid ocean
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Thank god you reminded me of that!

lavish rose
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how long should challenge 2 take me?

lime pumice
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it was glowing green and said I should have good enough states to complete it, but I'm having a hard time with the last one, requires beating wave 21. Any tips?

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I didnt have enough materials to level tier 4 weapons/shield so I went tier 3

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well if anyone else has the same issue: I was still using my laser layout. Switched to all Kinetic Cannon 3.0 and speced them all to boost 1 cannon and one-shotted the s21 boss

limber fjord
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I am too stupid to complete the computing challenge. I have all computing capped and can’t destroy the Level21 Boss

astral zenith
limber fjord
astral zenith
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thats really bad

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you can try 6 kinetic cannons, 5 of them set on all bottom row nodes and the other 1 all top row

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then use volley automator

limber fjord
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I’ll give it a try

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Challenge done. Thanks 🙏

lavish rose
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i cant seem to complete challenge 4

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even tho i have capped 10

tight wolf
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screenshot weapon cores

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@lavish rose

lavish rose
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@tight wolf here

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i just die instantly even tho i have enough compute power

tight wolf
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challenge 4 is for sector 14 right?

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lavish rose
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yeah

tight wolf
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this says 9e7 damage, you have two 6e8 shields

lavish rose
tight wolf
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ah my bad, some late game scaling thing, i didn't think any applied to sector 14 lol

lavish rose
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i see

tight wolf
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anyway forget that

lavish rose
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ill wait to have more and try again

tight wolf
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you can survive two shots, which does seem a little low

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what's your "improved tracking" core at, how many waves

lavish rose
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1.5 i think

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ill wait for it to go up

tight wolf
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it does seem weird though, your cores are correct and at a good level, you should be able to win pretty fast

lavish rose
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yeah i know

tight wolf
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if you're willing to wait like two hours that build should beat challenge 5 even

lavish rose
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nah

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ok i did it

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thanks!

sterile elk
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hey, doing core compute challenge 9 and the trash on wave 20 is 2 shotting me. I'm following the guidance in the wiki to have one maxed out bomb launcher and 5x kinetic and 3 bulk shields.. is the wiki inaccurate?

tight wolf
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if you're trying to do early challenge 9, depending on how early, the wave despawn cheese may be required

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brute force fly your way to the boss, save, quit, reload

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you will be at the boss with no small enemies

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@sterile elk

sterile elk
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oh, interesting idea

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ill try

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that totally worked, thanks

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worked for 21 too. awesome

rough ridge
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is the guide accurate for Compute 7?
it says you need 10 cap+ but that's no where near generating enough salvage.
i'm at 2cap+ cap+ and still that's not enough?

Am i missing something?
Using the guide config this time, other than the 1 accidental charge laser

little bay
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yes you should be more than comfortable doing compute 7 at S51 - i had 7 and 8 done before even getting to 51, lots of people have 9 done before getting to 51

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do you have all your compute stuff set up (utility core, shards, reactor, salvage %)? what level weapons are you using

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use t2 weapons, not t3, if you've done that

rough ridge
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it's more the shields that are the issue, than the weapons to be fiar.
Though as mentioned i did put in a random charge laser, that did actually affect damage more than i expected (negatively) on the beam laser

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but overall it's just the salvage, i was having T2 weaons at level 180. managed in the end to just barely squeek past with some rapid clicking

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i'll come back for challenge 8 and 9 later haha

tight wolf
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each laser cannon triples your damage to non-shields, and even more than that to shields

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so you made it at least three times harder than it needed to be with that charge laser

little bay
royal rapids
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someone have tips for last compute challenge?

rough ridge
little bay
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multiple levels are way more valuable in compute challenge than normally.

i can assure you the remaining compute challenges are very easily doable at your stage in the game, i didn't even have to switch to kinetics for 9 because a low level compute crew makes it so free

rough ridge
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Yea completed the challenge just now, just 4 levels extra (though about 30 minutes) made all the difference.
Think i could have cheated a bit if i swapped out 1 bulk gen for another deflector and done it in 15 min but happy with the result that i completed it.

Not looking forward to the Synth challenge 4 (well looking forward to having it completed haha) next though that's at least in the future still.

little bay
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hmm, synth 4? you should be able to have completed it previously as well - i went into 51-74 with synth 4 done

rough ridge
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how long did it take?

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ah sorry meant synth 5 😄

little bay
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ahh yeah def need fairly high crew for that

loud vale
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compute challenge

ivory hazel
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Any advice to share so i can reach sector 11 in compute challenge? I'm hard stuck at 8-9

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i seem to not gain enough salvage through computing to upgrade my stuff fast enough

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current build: Heavy cruiser with 2 K. Cannons, 1 Beam 1 Charge 2 Bulk / All compute shards and obv the synth compute module

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all 1.0 because i can't upgrade 2.0 stuff with the horrible rate i gain salvage at

tight wolf
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the "boost" nodes Supportive Routing on Laser Cannon (or Fire Support on Kinetic Cannon) normally add +30% damage to other weapons of matching type

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in the challenge they add +300%, which is more than adding an extra weapon!

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so, you pretty much MUST use a build that is all-but-one laser cannons set to support and one other laser type weapon set to damage

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(or the same for kinetic, a bunch of support kinetic cannons plus one other kinetic)

ivory hazel
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aaaah i see, thanks!

tight wolf
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go one beam laser and three laser cannons

ivory hazel
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Thanks again, i was indeed able to push up to 11 and forward, trying to reach 14 but getting oneshot by 13's boss. Will try later but i'm satisfied with computing challenge for now

open garden
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is the part that i was afraid

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change weapons....😭

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I don't understand anything about weapons....

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i just follow the guide...it will be a problem :/

open garden
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why i can't change weapon during a challenge?

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I need to change weapons before lauch a challenge?

astral zenith
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you can with retrofit

open garden
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in the guide, they don't talk about bulk generator

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need 1.0 to remplace 2.0

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So i take all in 1..0?

astral zenith
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yes all 1.0

open garden
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thx, imagine your game is half in chinese and half in german....is what i see

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i will never understand anything on weapons until i talk with a french player 😉

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LOL i can upgrade canons in core now....

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definitively understand nothing on challenge lol

open garden
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i can't pass the sector 8/11.....waiting on sector 7 to buy some upgrade...i don't think i will reach sector 11 this time....

tight wolf
open garden
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green at Shield 2

tight wolf
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i don't know how well it translates, but have you tried the wiki? https://spaceidle.game-vault.net/wiki/Guide:Core_Computing_Challenge

Official Unnamed Space Idle Wiki
Guide:Core Computing Challenge

Core Computing Challenge will prevent you from getting salvage from killing enemies and getting drops. Instead Compute will generate Salvage instead of Damage and Max Shields multipliers. Moreover all damage and shield upgrades other than the core are disabled and Core Upgrades are 10x more powerful.

open garden
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wiki is my bible lol

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i clean 10/11 sector, i'm waiting at sector 10 to upgrade some things on Core

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and boost reactors levels

open garden
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Ok stop i can't clean sector 11

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it make me crazy i will do it when i will reach sector 100

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impossible

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🤯

astral zenith
slender geode
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just found the wiki, never mind

open garden
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games in english make me crazy sorry

open garden
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It's just an help for guys like me who understand nothing because i understand nothing on english

open garden
waxen rose
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But the wiki is in english too 🤔

open garden
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Tha's why i understand nothing on weapons

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i dont understand at 100% how the reactor work

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i have a lot of question

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i don't ask for all, the dev will kick me of the discord lol

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the game is in chinese for me

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What is the number "void matter to convert" ====> what areethe number?

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Challenges are make me totally crazy

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impossible for a non english speaker

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This game on french = my best idle game ever

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This game on english = 100th rank

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very frustrating

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Tired to play games on english.....very tired

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Are you playing games on other language? I guess not

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english people play in english

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when you are stranger to english, you don't have the choice

waxen rose
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I'm not english

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But yes I still play most of my games in english

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Easier to find information online that way

open garden
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you understand all in english....not me :/

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English is everywhere and english tired me a lot

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Challenges make me totaly furious

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very furious

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Next time i will go to reach sector 11 in core....if i can't reach sector 11 i will broke things at home

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Challenges are very horrible

slender geode
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The Wiki helped me through Challenge 2. I was really confused on how to proceed, and which weapons to use, and what they suggested worked like a charm. Well, it still took 20 minutes, but I got there. I tried tier 2 weapons before, and didn't even make it to sector 5, which I already beat with tier 1 weapons, so I knew something was off.

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As for your other questions: I am German, and I wouldn't want to play the game in German Leermaterieumwandlungsrate is no more helpful than void matter conversion rate. It's not like there is poetry involved.

waxen rose
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(doesnt help that the german translation of this game is pretty lacking lol)

slender geode
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I never even checked it out tbh

waxen rose
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Lets just say "Leermaterieumwandlungsrate" isnt an exaggaration

slender geode
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I am currently in the process of translation another, similar game to German, and I can easily imagine how it looks like

ivory hazel
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https://spaceidle.game-vault.net/wiki/Guide:Core_Computing_Challenge Is this guide correct? it tells me to go all in on bomb launcher after sector 19 but i get oneshot, the bomb launcher is way too slow for all the enemies coming

Official Unnamed Space Idle Wiki
Guide:Core Computing Challenge

Core Computing Challenge will prevent you from getting salvage from killing enemies and getting drops. Instead Compute will generate Salvage instead of Damage and Max Shields multipliers. Moreover all damage and shield upgrades other than the core are disabled and Core Upgrades are 10x more powerful.

tight wolf
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you may have better luck boosting kinetic cannon

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but i belive the bomb launcher strat used the despawn chese (save at the boss, quit, reload: no small enemies just boss)

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and the point is you're relying on deflectors to survive just long enough to land a few rounds

ivory hazel
open garden
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i can't change my ship configuration during a challenge??

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loadouts don't work

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👿

waxen rose
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You can

open garden
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retrofit?

waxen rose
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yes

radiant oracle
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Quick Question: when you hover over a compute bar you see the "Generation Cost", I assume this is usually referring to Salvage? If so, for this challenge doesn't this make the bars a net negative since the whole point is for them to create Salvage? I'm confused here!

astral zenith
radiant oracle
stiff socket
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any reason for damage to drop in this challenge? I cleared computing 5 sector 16, then go onto computing 6 hoping to clear sector 17 and it seems like my damage has gone down?

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like I was on e13 for beam laser and now it on e11...

astral zenith
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did you prestige

stiff socket
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I just continued the challenge

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oh all my lasers are different I must have clicked the wrong upgrades!!

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I put all the lasers on the wrong ones

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it is suppose to be on the bottom one boosting laser damage

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yep crushed sector 17 straight away

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funny how such a simple mistake can completely brick your run until you find it xD

brazen scaffold
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The reward from the compute challenge essentially makes compute levels have less harsh diminishing returns, resulting in better scaling over time. The over-simplified formula for a given compute bar's benefit is level^0.5, and each completion of the compute challenge increases this exponent by 0.04, up to level^0.7 at 5 completions. ||This bonus only affects the compute bars in the Basic tab.||

brazen scaffold
brazen scaffold
dull scaffold
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Ok, why does my income fluctuate so heavily in this challenge? I thought it was just based on computing but it seems like how fast i kill enemies and also if i die affects the amount too?

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Also, the guides and the challenge dont seem to match up anymore. Im doing the second challenge of 5 and am getting absolutely hammered despite being able to make shield 4 and damage 4 just click over to green (the 1 a second mark)

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The guide seems to suggest going all in on the beam and its doing nothing, but using the beam as support for the lasters rips through the enemy

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Ive maxed the tier 2 compute speed buff and ive maxed the tier 2 void matter recovery efficiency buff

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and ive levelled the void power generation module enough that im only needing 0.1 a second of void matter, so im steadily levelling it

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I think i saw someone mention you couldnt select the starting ship but you could retrofit? Im about to throw in whatever strategy is on the guide as its getting me nowere and chuck in a charge laser and see what happens

astral zenith
dull scaffold
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I kinda wish i could select my ship first though so i could use the synth lab to quickly max my modules and then switch out

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did thy reduce the number of them?

astral zenith
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if you cant afford 2.0 weapons, switch to 1.0

dull scaffold
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I only have 1.0 weapons lol

astral zenith
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can you screenshot core

dull scaffold
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But maybe they removed a challenge beteen the current level 1 and lvl 2 challenge?

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Cause the level 2 one says you only need shield 2 lol

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So ive just assumed that the guide challenge level 3 is the current challenge level 2'

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SUre, but ive fucked around with it now trying to make something work lol. And i havent hit green for damage and shield 4 yet, but it should come as soon as i finish synthing

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Also, why income fluctuate so much when its supposed to be entirely based on my computing?

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Does the sector you are on affect it?

astral zenith
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level 70 nodes make a big diff

dull scaffold
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Yeah i can hit them just fine, it just doesnt seem to have gotten me closer to sector 11 than sector 8 lol

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This combo of gatling, charge and laser is doing heaps better than the beam laser. There has to be something thats changed about the game since the guide was written.

Firstly, challenge 2 in this wants you to get to sector 2, wheras on the guide it says 8, so im guessing there was a challenge level removed.

But even then, the guides advice of use both lasers to empower a beam was terrible and switching the beam and laser cannon to support a laser cannon had me advance a good sector and a half further forward.

astral zenith
dull scaffold
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Sorry, mistype i mean sector 8

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Cause i did the sector 5 one first, and then the next one said to get to sector 11 lol

astral zenith
dull scaffold
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Ah, there also only seems to be 5 challenges in the menu option for computing challenge and 9 on the guide. That might be where it differs firstly.

dull scaffold
dull scaffold
astral zenith
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is compute auto salvage(1%) on

dull scaffold
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nope, i havent even unlocked it

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2 screenshots within 25 seconds of each other and i didnt touch anything

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there we go, 30 seconds later, even more income drop

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Checked the reactor and its still full of fuel

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Havent touched the V device or synth

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I would try restarting with the default setup again, but if i cant work out this income fluctuation then I wont know how reliably i can hit node 70

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I could be missing something really simple that explains it i just cant think of what. I havent unlucked anything past the challenges, ive unokced some reactor boosts, but im not changing them and the tank is staying full easily.

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REsearch and bases both dont interact with computing as far as i can see

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Lol, ok, figured it out

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I auto click the salvage and void things when they appear without even noticing by now, and the void thing increases your computing speed by 3

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Mystery solved, I probably need to go find a way to improve my computing speed still

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Since im not at max Damage/Shield 4 yet

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and if i cant get to node 70, then i aint finishing sector 11

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Thanks for pointing out node 70 by the way, it was driving me nuts looking at the guide explaining that beam will let you breeze through. I just need enough computing to get damage/shield4 maxxed out and ill come back

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Guide probably does need updating now it seems like there are only 5 challenges though

waxen rose
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Yeah, that got changed like 2 weeks ago

dull scaffold
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Cool, that makes more sense

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I was confused as to why challenge 2 was so hard when the guide said i was well over the requirements lol

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turns out, im just udner the requirements for the guides 3, and the current games 2

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waiiiit a second, my income seems to be fluctuating again despite not touching the game. Do those little void things automatically apply after some time even if you dont click them?

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Also, specific strategy question, since in theory the enemies and zone have 0 impact to your income i assume the tactic is to sit in whatever sector you can kill the enemy waves as fast as they arrive and farm void to boost your computing.

astral zenith
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USIResource_Void gain is still affected by sector

dull scaffold
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And its probably worth upgrading the advanced computer lab ahead of all the weapons since its the only thing that effects your income, aside from getting slightly more void matter

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Yeah

waxen rose
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but the energy voids shouldnt activate themselves unless you have the module for it

dull scaffold
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Hmmm, and salvage neither computing nore some hidden salvage income modifier is affected by sector right?

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Man id be so much more willing to take multiple runs at this challenge if i could pick my starting ship and start with a synth lab lol

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although, now i think about it, id never get the income to upgrade it

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nevermind

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stuff it, im going to see if i can hit sector 18 with my corvette, i got to 17 last time, which was heaps further than i expected.

waxen rose
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if you go to the sector data screen you can check how much enemies drop

dull scaffold
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I thought there was no salvage income in this challenge except for what compute gives you?

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So therefore salvage income in this challange would be the same in sector 1 as it would in sector 9 right?

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The only difference being the void income which you need higher so you can raise your compute

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but there would be some math that would say its better to stay in an easier sector and ignore your weapon upgrades for a period to keep levelling the computing core since that will affect your income too. And increasing the void matter by going up in setors requires you to upgrade weapons instaed of your computing core

waxen rose
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oh, yeah, you mean in the challenge 🤦 my bad

dull scaffold
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No idea at what point it becomes advantagoues to stay and upgrade the core and when you should ugprade weapons to improve vm income

waxen rose
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There probably is some sweet spot, yeah, i just dont know if it actually pays off going for that

dull scaffold
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Yeah, i can only assume its much easier to just do other stuff and come back when its comfortable to do

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and needing to min max it to the extreme is no longer needed.

waxen rose
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yeah pretty much how it goes with this game in general

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if you're stuck in one spot chances are you can make progress somewhere else you neglected for a bit

hot mica
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Is the 5th challenge ship not strong enough to complete the 18th wave? I’m getting one shot by wave 18 boss with maxed pre-set ship cores

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Nvm. Sat and farmed for a bit. Survived one hit and passed

fair light
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Yea I am having the same issue. Looks like doing 5 with this setup required a certain amount of waves farmed for Ablative Shielding

noble geyser
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Im curious as to why the amount of salvage Im making keeps fluctuating even tho I havent changed any values

tiny ingot
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Is the Game Vault wiki guide requirements for the challenge up to date? Specifically a maxed out, 10 Cap+ bar should be enough to complete all the targets?

edit - I think it was enough. Had a bit extra.

waxen rose
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Yeah it's more than enough

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It can be done with 2 cap+ already

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Probably sooner

covert mountain
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The answer was 210 shields on the bulk generators to survive one hit from the boss for compute 5 challenge. Salvage multiplier at X12 or X13 got me there fast.

obsidian nymph
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how tf you do cc5

trim summit
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Is there a sektor recommendation for each compute challenge?

white pendant
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how to complete s24 and s25 in this challenge

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I completed s23 in this challenge with 40/s 1.1 Cap+++

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Probably 1040/s 1.1 Cap+++ is required to complete s24?

fervent pasture
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For other ppl strugeling i did the math, if you are using the bulk generators, your shields need to be 3.08e11 each this is because the boss does 9.23e11 dmg with one hit divided by 3 ofc means 3.08e11 I am unsure as to why retrofiting seems to have such a terible effect on your ship as deflector shields easely solve this isue (if someone has the answer to this pleasae let me know) yet somehow this takes away all your damage. im completely clueless as to why this is

white pendant
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I just completed S26 in this challenge
S23 requirements: 40/s 1.1 Cap+++
S24 requirements: 1040/s 1.1 Cap+++
S25 requirements: 1040/s 1.1 Cap+++ and R1
S26 requirements: 1040/s 1.1 Cap+++, R2 and ~120x In-Challenge Improved Tracking

steel burrow
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Hello, just unlocked challenges at S18, looking for strats to beat them. anyone knows any?

waxen rose
karmic shuttleBOT
steel burrow
raw lotus
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the guide reccomends using all tier 1 weapons

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they kind of fall off very quickly tho

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should I retrofit?

tight wolf
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the laser cannons only purpose is support, you need to be able to get all their milestone nodes

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the beam they are supporting should be whichever level does the most damage at the given salvage amount

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but keep in mind the beam nodes are also x10, so they are very strong

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T2 is still better eventually, but it takes more salvage than the main game

placid carbon
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I did all 5 core computing on T1

tight wolf
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yeah. that's possible because the base damage from individual levels, and the wave bonus from improved tracking are both also x10

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so you keep scaling decently with time in this challenge, from salvage and killing, even when leveled way beyond the normal limits

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you probably would have finished challenge 4 and 5 faster with T2 but you don't strictly need them

oblique oriole
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is there a chart for this challenge like for others where I can see on which Secotor which Challenge Level people did? I have just opened sector 45 and I have 4/5 Compute Challenges done.

fathom crow
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im trying to do compute challenge sector 18, but the boss one shots me. i have the recommended cap10+ bar maxed (cap1.1++ too). do i need to retrofit or something?

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shields are 3x bulk generators 2.0 (the default) at level 150

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retrofitted to two deflectors so that i could survive just long enough

rich yoke
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Came here because I had the same issue Phasmo, I Guess I"ll try deflectors

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Can confirm 2 deflectors did the trick as long as you have maxed 2.0 beam

somber kraken
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I notice is that in offline mode, you get void energy but not salvage. Is this intentional because it means I need to leave the game open even when I am away to get salvage for Core upgrades.

sour valley
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So, i just completed core computing 5, but i'm not usre how i actually did that XD. I was stuck at boss 18, and then i used a 6 hour time skip. It didn't actually generate enough salvage to meaningfully upgrade my shields/laser, but when i tried to fight the boss, i was somehow suddenly able to beat him before he fired the fist shot. Maybe it was simply the accumulation of the bonus on impoved tracking?

astral zenith
unkempt latch
timid talon
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I am having trouble getting Core Computing lvl 4 done

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Any suggestions?

astral zenith
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thats like the worst setup for core computing

timid talon
astral zenith
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1 beam laser 3.0
5 laser cannon 2.0
1 bulk generator 2.0
2 deflectors

timid talon
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So not 4.0?

astral zenith
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cant even upgrade 4.0 in challenge

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levels matter a lot in core computing
a weapon with no upgrades is useless

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btw use these nodes

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timid talon
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Setup worked. Thank you so much!

sinful venture
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i cant beat sector 12, how can i beat sector 14?? am i missing something??

image.png
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for core compute 3

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i must be missing something somewhere, can someone please help?

sinful venture
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ok figured it out, it was the core upgrades path

mint citrus
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Howdy! Is there a better loadout for the 5th Compute challenge? I am producing 1.1 cap+ cap+ and have upgraded all of my cores to 110+ but the S18 boss just one shots me before I can kill him, I tried replacing a Laser for a Beam but still no avail

astral zenith
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screenshot core

mint citrus
astral zenith
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1 beam 5 laser cannon is better

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also if all else fails, you can farm improved tracking(lv60 node) since its 10x stronger in challenge

mint citrus
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Okay, I thought that might be the case because that's the default and I got closer with it than this current one. I'll use my last retro to go back to default and if that fails then I'll restart and try 3.0 beam or even shields. Thank you

astral zenith
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3.0 is bad

mint citrus
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Okay rad, that will save me disappointment haha

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So that time didn't work which is odd because the dps of the beam is more than its hull health but yet it still takes a loot less hull damage, time to use plan B of just farming tracking

astral zenith
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thats because beam dps assumes max ramp

mint citrus
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Ahhhhh okay that makes sense, yeah he takes me out with his first shot so I doubt it even gets to 25% haha

astral zenith
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thats normal
your damage is much higher than shield

mint citrus
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Yeah, welp I have synth specced to make the void beacon, and then that should make the wave farm faster

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Boom, didn't even need the beacon, just wave farming vanilla did it and now I have completed Compute forevermore! Thank you again for your help

tight wolf
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yes you're done

full cosmos
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im stuck? I have 110 in my beam laser but i cant beat the boss 🙁

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astral zenith
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what about laser cannon nodes

full cosmos
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233

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Should i level them more? It didnt seem to matter so I turned off auto upgrade

astral zenith
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the nodes

full cosmos
astral zenith
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🤔

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then maybe you need to wait for improved tracking(lv60 node) to build up

full cosmos
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its at 2.36

astral zenith
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goes up to 11 before softcap

full cosmos
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and sadly I just get 1 shot so 🙁 I cant tank till my beam ramps up

bronze lion
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does it make a difference what sector i'm in to stack the improved tracking (lvl60) node?

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for core computing 5

lyric moth
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What do I need for lvl2? Is the best the 2 lasers and 1 beam?

gloomy crest
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For anyone doing comp 5, I retrofitted two deflectors and that buys a ton of ramp time. Finished with no prob with ~2 on the improved tracking.

hollow forum
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Heck, I can't beat 5th at all lol
Simply impossible to reach enough shield to tank 1 hit from 18th sector.

  • adding a second beam laser does not improve damage
  • tried also adding a kinetic weapon for kinetic volley, helped a bit, but not enough
    I'll try going over sector 44 to get said deflectors, because I simply see no way at this point XD
astral zenith
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adding a second beam reduces damage since laser cannon lv70 has x4 damage to all lasers

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kinetic volley with only 1 kinetic weapon doesnt x4 damage either

hollow forum
astral zenith
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oh

hollow forum
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still, made no difference in the end

hollow forum
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Forgot I could empower it
Was able to beat using Bomb Launcher, Laser finally got strong enough.
Brought Deflector Shields, didn't need in the end 😄

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still cedar
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In the requirements guide it says max bar 4. What does it mean

astral zenith
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damage 4 and shield 4

still cedar
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But how do i know if i have that?

astral zenith
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go to compute tab

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see if they are fully green

still cedar
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Ahh oke thanks

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Is there any good indication to know when you’re able to beat 3, 4 and 5?

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I am basically in sector 30… in normal game play. Can reach it fairly easy, cant beat it though

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How to complete Core Computing #2

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