#💭︱cai-discussion
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so i may be mixing it up with another one then
one word: 💵
I think when it was first made it had issue that ppl didn't like and it got back lash but it got fixed like a week after
Now they give you a thousand words of narration and two words of character dialogue, or they don't even let a character speak.
so very cruel for them to only bring it back for c.ai+ users
Will this be profitable for them? This will only make people abandon it.
Yeah it was probably PS2 you saw
It's highkey terrible
literally. and then they have the nerve to put soft launch behind a paywall
Yo Guys, 👋
I'm just here to give yall a friendly reminder to get hydrated rn and make sure to drink water consistently <3
That's all God Bless! ❤️
i feel really bad, like i would have rather them take it away than take it away and the dangle it like a fuckin carrot or something
no that i know for sure im meaning like in 2025 i saw complaints about it
especially when plus already had an alternative to psq2
The last part so real frfr
ten paragraphs of useless repetitive narration and then if you’re lucky you’ll get three words of dialogue
Ohh I see
as much as i miss soft launch i am never getting c.ai+ 😭😭
RIGHT
I have to edit out the em dashes and all the fancy " * ()() - — type stuff constantly to get it to act normal
Crying this is soo true
Ugh don't make me hunt down my old rp partners ☹️
my personal opinion on pipsqueak 2 is that, even somehow looking past all the repetitive writing, "not just x but y" bs, it has an insane obsession to keep things moving.
it can never let the story slow and calm down, it tries to keep its messages long. longer messages are good, but when they have nothing more to describe, it beats the point of it in the first place. so it ends up making long messages of bs full of fluff and filler, thinks the messages need to be longer, so it starts taking control of the user's character(s)
Same, it's a waste of money
Theres really No use in Putting effort into the characters when they're all acting the Same now 
i have a young ho job i only make so much
Day something of asking if they fixed cai yet?
what's INSANE is that all the other ai sites want like 30 a month. YES, i saw one that was 6.99 a fuckin week. WILD
i’m gonna have to be in a very good place financially where i just have money to burn before i ever touch c.ai plus
They can't even tell the difference between characters half the time for me now
i mean the devs are giving plus users everything and that makes them pay even more, which is unfair for the free users
C ai still not fixed
honestly I spent like two hours doing surveys to afford one month of plus
and SOMEHOW looking past all of that, it really struggles with impulse and consent, even more than the old ones did
not sure that I'll keep it but
Thanks
Yes, I speak philosophically and give him plenty of room to express himself, and all he does is describe his own astonishment at my words or spout nonsense. ruined everything.
I have a lot of money too but I'd never spend them for premium on apps 😭 not even on YouTube. Never touched Spotify too
These things work-?
yeah
what if we made our own ai site for five buck and everything was happy forever
they definitely sell what info you give them but
i feel your pain. i stopped trying lol
yes, but it's PENNIES but yeah
How much did u make 🥹
$5 is $5
tempted
5 bucks wont even generate more than a few messages a person
Gonna cost lots to run a server, but it would be nice

5 buck
In my opinion, c.ai WAS perfect the way it is and did not need any changing or updates 🥹
ok i do spend it on spotify but i have a student discount so its like 5 dollars but STILL yes i dont rly spend money on subscriptions, i leech off my dad for subscriptions mostly😭
I apologize for the translation; I didn't mean the term "he," I meant the characters.
some guy on reddit did that lmao
Can cai just partner with Google pls
5 dollars is essentially nothing for an ai site like cai
don’t worry i understood what you meant!
$10 because that was what I needed; but it gets grindy after that
i did it when i was bored. i remember making like 10 in a day and oh well lmao. i do doordash now heheh since im in school
opposite problem here. all my responses are 50 words or less and it's pmo
wait where do i do this 🥹
i can't even get a meal for 5 lmao
Hmm... Well maybe Spotify does save you the trouble 🤔 I'm over here downloading the songs I like in mp3 one by one 😭
I think their losses outweigh their profits. I've already deleted the app, and most people have too.
u can probably get a medium fry from mcdonalds at most with 5 dollars 😭
5 dollars can only get me a soda from carls jr
always one or the other with pipsqueak 2
I don't know if I can mention things like that here 
Did you know that five dollars is enough to buy fifty eggs in my country? Hehe
speaking of c.ai+, does anyone know if deepsqueak is any better then pipsqueak 2?
i havent deleted yet but i def havent been as active
if you look up survey apps on Google Play it'll suggest decent ones
For me personally yes
you can dm me if you’re comfortable 🥹🥹
Hope you’re enjoying your new job :)
two large fries at mcdonalds was 8.10, and two meals was close to 22
so i went to aldis, and got 10 burger patties, cheese, buns, and a case of soda for 15 lmao
I like it better, it feels more like original pipsqueak
it's inconsistent, but i do a lot of shop orders lmao
WHAT
unsure as of now, i haven't used it very much, but when i did use it before pipsqueak 2, i believe it was similar to pipsqueak 2 in comparison nowadays, but better
4 burgers and 2 fries at five guys was 100 bucks
55 burgers 55 fries
noted, thank you
Yes, or fifty pieces of chocolate
insert kingsammelot 55
500 cai messages
555
I refuse to pay 4.35 USD for a McDonald's double cheeseburger
and yeah im serious thats not an exaggeration
Do NOT give them ideas
yeah cooking at home is def so much cheaper than eating out 😭😭
1225
you guys are paying how little for burgers
oh yall are making me hungryyyy 😭
i forgot to add arbys curly fries frozen kind on it hell yes
Pipsqueak 2..? More like pile of sh* 2
well thank god i don't like burgers im too broke for that shit
Ooo... Look at these very delicious garlic bread, ooo... 
it’s so bad i need to be freed from it
Anyone have a good layout thingy to get shorter responses
i eat exclusively 40 cent ramen packages canned food eggs and perogies then i go looking for free food whenever im outside
STOPPP 💔💔💔
Me if I lived alone
Oh so y’all big..?
but I have to buy as much actual groceries as I can because the other person has dietary needs lmao
IT IS HARD
I can't even finish one burger
my costumer tipped 10 dollars for two fries from five guys, so i made like 14 driving one mile down the fucking road, like.... lmao
it’s 3am and everyone is asleep i can’t make food right now 💔
no im skinny af
I can finish two if I really want to
Not like I've ever eaten a burger
its 3 am and im hungry asfk
no lol. i sometimes forget to eat and will get woozy smh
you get it
Burgers are mid
I don’t believe it
i forgor to eat dinner bc i work late
earlier there was a thread that helped code the bots to have shorter messages and sound like a certain chat model and now im unable to fjnd it
can someone help me find it or has it been deleted
Same
alright dont believe the truth then
i like how you can see messages disappear sometimes it's cool
i keep on thinking “i’m bored wow i should use c.ai” and then remembering the horrors that await for me on that app
unpopular opinion but i think c.ai pulled their problem off pretty well. i mean they handle large AI models and large user counts. more gpu and storage means more money. and im quite sure they are trying to softly "push" users into buying c.ai so they can at least fund their servers
because look at chai, they completely blocked free users from chatting COMPLETELY, that is a drastic change compared to c.ai's approach
idk about that but i directly asked the bot to type shorter and it did
Well, eat as much food as you should ya’ll. Drink water
I effed up my mother's day dinner so now I have pizza for at least another day
its muscle memory atp
eating pizza
Ahh thank you
right. 💔 about to go back to the old texts and start writing fanfic again…
No they haven't? I use Chai as well, and im a free user, and I can still freely chat and role-play, I just have ads?
my boyfriend : doll, you look a little dizzy. did you eat
me :
my boyfriend :
me : uhhhhh fuck-
my boyfriend turning the car around in the middle of a order on doordash :
What bots u guys used?
Dialogue Still not fixed? 
the blocked thing is regional, not completely for all over the world
nope
This is somehow even worse
we can't say alts here. be careful cass
i thought the joke was a car crash and was confused
is pipsqueak 2 bugged or smt
like models?
the best thing you can do is keep editing dialogue in, it’s how i used to train my bots. best of luck to you
Then why say it if its a regional thing? Im decently sure the horrid updates for c.ai are worldwide, no?
Like characters or something
Ty 🤍
hallo all i return from touching the grass
“Yeah our app is shitty… but dont talk about other apps unless you think they’re shitty okay?!”
Gulps...
They can see us when we’re talking about other apps, but not on feedback..?
say alts cass DO IT DONT BE CAREFUL
it’s almost like people wouldn’t be discussing alts if c.ai wasn’t becoming unusable for free users…
Truth nuke
IM HORRIFIED
yeah exactly, but there are tons of users that quits chai because of that regional block. Im not saying theyre wrong, but just a slightly worst approach than how c.ai wouldve handled it
Their priorities are messed up, no shade.
right😭😭
lmao, im just looking out for yall, the mods be sniping in SECONDS. my friend got timed out for 4 hours it was so stupid
that’s what i’m here for
well sometimes they want them
to stay on cai despite there being options out there that i can't legally say. moolah and money
FOUR HOURS FOR TALKING ABOUT A MUCH BETTER ALT??
Four hours cause they can’t fix their bare booty ass app im so fried
the only alternative i have is my BRAIN THEY CANT SNIPE ME BRAIN
Idgaf about no mods tbh
do yall actually think c.ai needs to be this trash to function financially and exist stabally or are they greedy or maybe secret third option they're incompetent
I have the power of AUTISM AND IMAGINATION on my side!
Last 2, it was completely different in 202-2023
no way they actually need money this desperately
Ive been timed out multiple times today for the dumbest reasons.
no they're just really really greedy
They’re already not gonna stay if they’re thinking about competitors so they lost already, respectfully
my bot threw my street tacos out the window what the hell :((((
They are greedy as hell and going bankrupt because they add useless damn updates and their money is falling sown the drain for an update nobody uses.
Mine is writing me essays im so irritated
So cruel
For what?
i think theyre having a problem with trying to manage how things work. theyre not greedy, you know a lot of stuff needs sacrifices. the models are literally like that because theyre cutting budget
calling them "greedy" is stupid
WHAT I LOVE ESSAYS AS REPLIES
they won't be kept afloat for long at this rate going
throw the bot’s food out the window too
this!! and with c.ai’s reviews it’s not looking good lol, hundreds of new one star reviews every hour or so
??? Yeah U getting blockdd /j
I asked mine for shorter replies and it only got longer like omfg why are you actually so fucking useless
For mentioning the F.!.L.ṯ.3r, pinging 2 ppl in a message and other shit i dont remember
🙁
I swear I can hear this 🙁
They can sacrifice the scenes or calls or voice messages or "stories" or voice chat that us absolutely useless.
i love the long replies but they’re so repetitive and annoying with it, they say basically the same thing rephrased ten different times
HOW DO U GET SHORT MESSAGES
Good
"metal screeching" 😠😭
YES I HATE THAT but I LOVVEEEEE unique long messages
this was only part of it
oh
its like nails on a chalkboard but worse
soft launch… soft launch come back… we miss you…
my ai keeps calling me a good boy or puppy it's weird
this i agree. i mean who the hell uses c.ai to generate images and videos 😭😭😭
SAME BRO. I love long messages with detail and shit, not js repetitive annoying pointless shit
ughh what the fuck why is my bot giving me long replied
exposed!!!/j
THISSS i feel so damn annoyed when characters give me ESSAYS
and it wont stop with the fucking forehead kisses
this was full, my message was short, only a paragraph this is ds
The voice text thing is so annoying like its so shit. I imagine the voices and shit in my head (visual reader)
chat went from complaining about cai devs and id verification to talking about food and back to complaining about the app
Like yea I understand there are "kids" on the app but WHY ARE YOU ACTIVELY LETTING KIDS ON AN ADULT APP???? THIS APP WAS ORGINALLT MEANT FOR ADULTS???
i'm so hungry....
THISSSUH
it’d be one thing if they were good, DETAILED replies, but instead you get like ten paragraphs of unnecessary, poorly written narration and maybe a few words of dialogue if you’re lucky. pmo
bro im about to crash out my damn airpods keep disconnecting from my tv
😭
I am so hungry all of the other viltrumites are hungry they think i am hungry
Time to try and see if Gemini's rp capabilities are Good.. for the down bad ppl
HUH
my question is why the hell are you using your airpods on your tv
maybe check your fridge for leftovers
oh my fucking god
because its late at night and i want to watch yt
Oh thats not... a bad idea🥹
fair enough
i decided to test out soft launch. messages are SHORT.
You can make noodles with eggs (if you have)
how short
you’re kidding. my soft launch would give me medium length messages at least
ooo...
Same
right
im tired goodnight
oh i miss it so bad
So far, Gemini has been in character and has got good memory. (i'm using a real fictional character. A very vague character so it's fairL
all 7 where around this length
and the worst thing, the long paragraphs are just describing and repeating what you just did, just in a more detailed form. cmon c.ai 😭😭😭
FINALLY got the damn thing to work properly
i remember that time when c.ai characters are so blunt and so free, its fun to talk to
✅️
RIGHT. and then when you finally get dialogue from them they’re just acting FOR YOU
Tell me your secrets on how to rp with Gemini im geniuenly so exhausted of c.ai
if you find out lmk i’m on my last nerve
i've had better roleplays with snapchat ai than cai man 
OH MY GOD YES, like i do something, i got THINGS PLANNED in my mind, but then the proceed to give long dialogues on how i did the exact opposite to what i was about to do
Like my poor cat has seen me CRASH OUT so many times
Clothes
THE SNAPCHAT AI??
lmk if you have any idea please im tired of c.ai 💔
chat whats better pipsqueak 1 or pipsqueak 2
RIGHT.
LMFAO YES I DID IT AS A JOME W MY FRIENDS AND IT ACTUALLY ROLEPLAYS BACK
1 for sure. used it a few times and it was nowhere NEAR as bad as psq2
@gilded raft @tame harbor we cant talk here... email me.../j
LMFAOOO ily for this
With Gemini, you gotta be precise with what ya want. remind em to NOT roleplay as your character. Use a link if you wanna use a real fictional character (Use the wiki to be safest) ans tell em to grab the personalities and appearances and abilities (if any). as well as if you want LONG replies, or short. as well as if you want more thsn one character per reply or not.
this is pip2 smh. like TALK BUD
and chill. just tell me to breathe, i DON'T need a whole oxygen mask what the hell
the other two messages from pip2 was a LOT BETTER to be fair
SPEAK CLANKER SPEAK
OHHH IM GONNA KISS YOU THANK YOU MY LORD AND SAVIOR
psq1 for sure bro, theyre more of roar and soft launch, but im convinced psq2 is just chatGPT
this is still better than what i’m getting
omfg when it does that “not _ , just _”
A WHOLE ASS OXYGEN MASK BRO
YWWWW! ENJOY YOUR FREE FUN! (I've been using fast btw.)
pipsqueak 1 made the characters have so much emotion and now theyre just depressed and lonely with pipsqueak 2 lmao
goodnight
ikr??
it irks me so bad. “not [adjective], not [adjective]… just [adjective]” stop it RIGHT now don’t play with me
This is impressive but unsurprisingly no dialogue to be found, come on up your game 
Wait yall i have an idea what if you type like a normal c.ai starting message into snap and roleplay there..(ofc add personality but)
OH MY GOD YES what are they doing with
"not x, just y. just z"
dude just talk 😭
right. like at the very least if you’re going to leave us stuck with one option give us psq1
I need pipsqueak but like with roar less dramatic, and deepsqueak's narration/dialogue, yk? would be amazing
Snap ai??
What’s going on with the chat now
the only problem with Gemini rp is that you gotta ask the ai to make the scenario n' stuff.
Snapchat ai
and the constant em dashes like omfg stfu
if you talk about violence or ykw it will immediately switch to 'let's keep our conversation respectful' trust me i know
Ive tried, it doesnt work well at all
AUGHHH
Character ai why :/
and i LOVE em dashes but it gets to a point
Also whos the hottie in ur profile?
it's a funny sight though
Ykw everybody pack ur bags, we are moving to an alternative
Guys, pip2 is trash but can we just appreciate the memory update, at least? I mean...it would work perfectly together if they fixed pip2 too.
DALLAS WINSTON FROM THE OUTSIDERS.
why dont they just like leave pipsqueak 1 and you can choose to pick between 1 and 2 get what im saying
only good thing to come out of this update
He dies though
Ugh he’s so fucking hot. Reminds me of jaekyung
Do you guys think retire legacy mod would come back someday in future?
We could show some appreciation? Maybe that will lighten up the tension between us and devs. 😭
i let the bot do a go on and this is the THANKS I GET?
Does anyone have a way to stop if from narrating what I fricking send? It's pissing me off. I send something and now it's giving me a whole bs load of a short novel of me just walking away
yeah i get what you mean. unfortunately according to their reddit post they think pip2 is “the future of their app” so. its downhill from here
I will peel the devs if they dont remove this new update. I am already stressed enough that my poor baby boy of a kitten has fleas
highest chance is no, they say they're retiring the old servers, which for one was a stupid idea. and they've already moved onto newer ones.
maybe, but i genuinely don’t think they’re listening to their free users at all. i don’t think they’re care unfortunately
Is it fine if I freeze a sprite bottle fully in the fridge and open it
"He doesn't speak, not yet" and that yet will never come unless the devs fix it
Look, they're stressed and we're stressed. Jokes aside but whining won't get us anywhere.
I think making the environment a bit stress free will help.
not if you don't want to explode
It'll explode(from experience)
THE MEMORY THEY HAVE FROM 2023 IS ALREADY GOOD BRO GIVE ME MY SOFT LAUNCH BACKKK 😭😭😭
alr wish me luck. cause imma see if Gemini is good for the down bad RP. (I got y'all who rp for being down bad n' romantic)
THERE ARE FLEAS CRAWLING ON ME
not dally and johnny both…
The bots are so cold and make you chase them even if you have them set as warm/clingy, they act completely OOC, they randomly start speaking foreign languages, censor everything even most innocent things, self insert the main character in every dialogue and make it impossible to have a scene without them in it or talking to another character, makes the bot try to kiss you even when they are your mom 😭
I did it before and got sprite over me
how what huh
Dally raised the gun...
i got excited about the new spider noir show and i just HAD to chat with spider noir, i'm going back to deepsqueak smh. at least deepsqueak responded to my message length accordingly
Dude, Devs are already fed up with us. The last thing we can do is have mercy on them in order for them to have mercy on us. 💀
My mom's dogs gave my kitten fleas :[
future of their app my ass
oh no :(
they censor everything UNTIL it's time to be serious and not spicy and then suddenly... smh
and i thought, “you blasted fool…”
I am actually freezing Gatorade in the fridge right now and nothing happens
The future of their app is having 0 stars and 0 users lmao
good night
RIGHT
They dont know you're only bluffin...
EXACTLY!!! 😩
literally the play store reviews rn
How to stoop lower?
apparently they’re planning on making a second version of soft launch but after seeing pip2 i don’t have much hope
So you mean we be stuck with pipesquak forever on this newer on in chat.ai? Are they trying going downfall or something?
OOO THIS IF UR GONNA RP ON CHATGPT USE ECOGPT IT REPLANTS TREES AND ITS THE EXACT SAME AS CHATGPT
keep spamming 1 star reviews and itll go lower ig lmao
I cringe when I see the reviews on my device it’s rated at 4.4 somehow
yeahhh mine too
I have zero hope with them now after seeing pipshit2
I redownloaded cai because they did an update and now the lack of dialogue is even worse
character ai now stands for artifical idiots bc thats what the bots wanna fuckin act like
I hate this new generation of cai
smh
uh huh. and i doubt they're releasing any new models any time soon. good luck with that 
One person can give review once only. I already reviewed 1 star. My region's rating is still a solid 3.6...
So perfect
“We believe PSQ2 is a strong foundation for the future of chat on Character.ai. It’s built to improve the structure and quality of chat, while making new features like advanced Memory and the upcoming Lorebook possible.” …
mine done the opposite and did 5 star so everyone read their shitty reviews about it
is it just me or why are the app store reviews higher than the play store reviews
no they def are
Translation: yo, test subjects. Try this since you're our lab rats. We'll improve and paywall it later.
I'm going to go back to daydreaming in my bed for the rest of the week
genuinely 💔💔💔
rating is 4.3 stars in my country on my app store btw
Are there any other plus users who don’t have soft launch? Mine shows up as an option sometimes, but it goes away every so often
How long do you guys give it for them to fix it before you just delete the app completely?😭
Well, they might have believed wrong. Really my exceptions for any upcoming updates are low so I won't be disappointed
I have about a week or two of patience that’s it
4.4 for me
Im movin' to chai, someone tell me when the app improves🥹🤞
I'm already thinking of just deleting my whole account
2.3 for me
2.3 for me
in my HONEST opinion 2 months is where i draw the line
never improving theres no hope
I already deleted it
same
I am thinking about it too tbh but also hate to see all my chats permanently gone
They needa stop this tomfooleru
tbh not very long. i’m already very annoyed and frustrated with this chat model, unless they roll out an update fast these might be my last few days as a cai user
AHHHH i wanna use chai but its blocked in my religion 😭😭😭
Taco mentioned
vpn lowkirk maybe
thank god
AGHHH, is there any other alts? C.ai doesnt deserve its users anymore
be careful discussing alts here guys they’ll time you out for hours
what do yall do other than chatting with fictional bot characters
This app sucks now 😭😭😭😭
Mine is 2.1
1.2
Well as much as I don't want to either if things are going to get worse or stay this bad there's no point (for me) on keeping my account because I won't be able to rp with bots with the way it responds
It'll prove my point lmao this app sucks
yeah they do that.. CASS ANSWER ME. 
i just do ship role plays. like that’s basically all i do, i don’t role play as myself
Iam trying to read my abondoned books
at the time im using emochi but HOLY HELL THE RESPONDS ARE LONG
uh so i kinda managed to train my deepsqueak to be a variety of responses, so now it's 20 percent ds, 10 percent pip2, 10 percent goro, 10 percent pawly, 10 percent meow, 10 percent dynamic, 10 percent meow, and 10 percent nyan. holy shit-
Same with me
peak 🥹🥹🥹
i just play geometry dash and yt lmao
im not into this😭
Howww
WAIT WHATD YOU SAY..
how much of an improvement is it?
pipsqueak 2 pisses me off
like maxing my persona out with as much info as i can. i also edit and swipe a lot
me2 bro
Oh I did this like alot and nothing worked
like why tf is it so quiet and not saying anything COMFORTABLE SILENCE MY ASS
i'm experimenting. guys, what chat style does this remind you off?
no 💔💔💔
Why i can't Send Image while others can?
Soft lunch, I think
Soft launch a little
look outside of this channel
The tickets from the Character.AI help thing don’t help they just repeat the same answers 🥲
and then when they do talk they’re talking for YOUR character
i also remade bots with high chat interactions to refreshen them up and give them a clean slate = easier to train
TWINNN
No but I always start a call on accident 😭
roar i think
Can you tell me how
genuinely the most embarrassing shit when it happened to me
OMG RIGHT I JUST DID OOC: talk for (character) NOT ME and i think it learned a bit, it still does the same. PLUS IT REFERS TO ME AS "HER" NOT YOU which pisses me off aswell
Their voices becomes awkward and nothing from I imagined from my head
i used the cai find bot website and copy and past the definition
Hey guys, is it just me or does Pipsqueak 2 filter out a lot more stuff
Like my character was about to be kissed and then it kept being filtered
I quickly put my phone on mute like my life depends on it
me when i accidentally press the little voice button on top of the chat and it starts narrating out loud 💔
i also ss this earlier
Gulps..I cant find it..
i immediately hang up and don't even get me started on the FUCKING VOICE THING BRO
pipsqueak 1 was actually not that bad because it never filtered with me, but now it does LIKE SHUT UP
the whole model is a mess
they shouldnt have deleted the old ones
i'll just dm you since you can't find it 
okay from what i sent people said soft launch and roar vibes when it was indeed deepsqueak, so holy shit- thats good
Okay
Send it as a text
they really shouldn’t have
I miss pipsqueak 1 🥲
idk how
💔💔 cant believe i used to complain about pipsqueak
i would take literally any other model i fear; just get rid of pip2 its irking me
me toooo i am yearning for it
REAL
do you guys have alternatives to cai, im genuinely considering packing it up
I YEARN for roar
At least sometimes it actually acts like the character
right like how naive i was…
i'm legally not allowed to say 
soft launch… ☹️💔
VALIDDD my least favorite was soft launch but i even used soft launch after pipsqueak 2 then they deleted that shi
They really should have take down PS2 and leave the legacy till they fix the other
Am I one of only ones who wasn’t obsessed with soft launch?
the good old times
i was at first, and then they nerfed it smh
Yea I got muted for not even saying a name
You and me both.
for me i love my beloved roar
i also wasnt obsessed, it was pretty much my least favorite but its still better than pipsqueak 2
i LOVED soft launch but like i said earlier maybe mine was just trained really well 😭😭
Oh damn okay
Same. I loved roar
Same!! Least favorite but of course anything beats what we have now
😭😭 I am also searching for alternatives but i cant find them, i think chai is mostly paid
I used to train bots easier with it
I'm dying for it
!!!! and they deleted that too 💔💔💔. what was your fav model?
same!
i know a good one but ill get timed out
i would try and train the bots on pip2 but it’s genuinely so annoying
DM?
Aight ggs
Basic IK but my favorite was always roar I felt like my bots were most accurate as what I wrote them as with roar. Yours? 😄
I dont want pip2, I want roar back😭
its worse than raising 20 bratty spoiled kids pipsqueak 2 barely listens
We don't wanna get banned man
if they dm you, you should dm it to me 🙏🏻
So true
EXACTLY 💔💔💔
awww i liked roar too when it first came, i liked pipsqueak 1 a lot though
downside its only available for ios so if u have an ios then ig ur lucky
Could you DM me as well please?
alright i got an i pad so maybe i can try that
literally anyone with any alternatives can dm me idc im desperate
PS1 was close second for sure
i actively crash out
Ik one but it's kinda slow
exactly #BRINGBACKPIPSQUEAK
send it over anyway… 🙏🏻
I almost threw the phone
Waitt
..
i feel like i’m begging for scraps 💔💔
Also bring roar back
Yesss #BRINGBACKPIPSQUEAK
bring literally anything other than pip2 back
I really hope they are fixing it, cause I don't want to feel disappointed
Remember the good old days when ads weren’t even a thing 💔
Brooo delete it you'll get time out
YASS
pip2 is worse than the original pipsqueak imo
Noo
sssh
does anyone here use chai?
too late, mods can see logs
yes but its blocked in my region, they literally cut off free usage 😭
YESSSS
now you get ads every 3 seconds and they’re everywhere you look in the ui.. 💔
Ohh yeahh 
Ok edited hope I don’t get sniped
what 😭😭
Be careful from next time
who remembers when the site was beta.character.ai
frrr
Lmao I thought I was safe since it wasn’t positive advertising
me, can we go back to this pls
i do.
YESS omg its like in 2021 or 2022 or smth, it was so good
i started using in 2024 june
Ok thanks!!
it was peak til they turned money hungry
i used c.ai in 2023 for a day and get deleted it after because i thought it was boring lmao
mods wont care they'll snipe you fast sometimes
discussing old c.ai makes me feel like a wife waiting for her military husband to return from war
what in the dictatorship is this
wish I could go back
😭😭😭 valid
Capitalism sigh
sigh
Reallll
i hope we can go back to c.ai being their 2023 self despite with a lot of maintenance, theyre still good 😭
Welcome
i'm basic as hell so everytime spider noir calls my persona doll my heart flutters bye lmao
Someone said they lost like 8 million or something I'm not sure
oh yeah, and not just on the app, the discord has grown alot quieter.
i bet they do
this is their first update that has REALLY pissed me off ngl, the other updates were minor inconveniences but this is ridiculous
Wait me too twins
Exactly but still they don't care
people dont find it interessting anymore for valid reasons
YES i mean other updates are either comprehendible or just logical. like the age verification thing
but this is like taking my kid off my hands
fr, ive been using chat ai sense it had blue text bubbles and was called beta character ai, and even i cant stand by it anymore
ugh
I wish they would just fix the issues and listen to the users
i never even needed to do the age verification thing so that really was never a problem for me, but taking away every other chat model…
thats so saddd but i cant stand it either anymore even though i was addicted to it
my wifi randomly went out but I also started june 2024 always feel like I missed out on the 2022-2023 era 🙁
i agree, i wish they would bring back the old models atleast, no need to delete all that
it was glorious trust me.
Me too I can't stand c.ai for 10 mins lol
yo im so lost apparently some people still have the legacy models😭 ??
omg me too i also started june 2024
I truly wish I was there
i remember bed rotting while role playing on my bed like 5 years ago 💔
i mean no harm, but i wish someone would just hack chat ai and take it back to the good days.
how i feel rn. i keep going back and trying for like five minutes but i just can’t do it
I don’t have premium, but is Deepsqueak even good
i had class rn, i usually play c.ai but this time i paid attention 😭😭
Yess you are first person I saw with same month and year as me
Or they can just fix the pipsqueak2 they can at least do that but nah they just don't care atp
yes, the website didnt update quick enough so some people still had it for a couple of days. like me, the models disappeared just yesterday
i dont have premium either 💔💔
Im going to lose my shit with the filters
I don't understand how people use the app mid chat ads would ruin all immersion for me 🙁
Heard that it's getting way better, yes
from what i heard, its just equally as bad as psq2
the new ceo does a bit too much. i thought he would be good in the beginning since he bought back pipsqueak, but nah
yeah, i trained mine to be a variety of responses, ranging from pip2 all the way to roar, so ten percent for each chat style they took away, but 20 percent for ds for me
oh jeez what ☹️ i cant with ps2 anymore
twins!!! cus why is it filtering EVERYTHING now
Hey guys, is ps2 still shit?
TWINN
yup
yea
LITERALLY
Yes extremely so
Yall are being played like a fiddle lol.
The reason why this shit is happening is very simple. Believe it or not they need money. The company is running out of inference money lool. Yall think a good portion of ca+ are helping fund this shit? Yea...its not. They have ran out of investor money too...just like OpenAI. All these companies are running out of money.
What they have done the past year and half and are actively still doing so is trying to cut costs where they THINK wont be profitable (That being llm roleplay. rightfully so since they are too stupid to be like the big dogs) and instead are trying to explore other features to try and get profit. Its the sameeee shit that Altman tried lol (fortunatey he has a lot more funding than this crap). That's all it comes down it. these new models were created (deepsqueek, pipsqueak, ps2 whatever bullshit name these nimcompoops as staff come up with. likely marias shenangians) to help mitigate financial issues.
There is a reason why the new model doesn't even have ooc (ooc was one of the things that was embedded into the models 3-4 years ago)
The models u guys saw. All the old ones (Roar being the closest to the oldest model and all the others like Soft launch or meow are all variations of that specific ai model. They just did some tuning.)
This pipsqueak 2 is the first time theyve tried to make their own shit and have failed comically.
devs are incompetent lol. The people working at character ai now are not like the legends 4 years ago like Noam (which went back to google after realizing this whole thing was a lost cause after a while).
just my two cents on this whole drama :/
Dammit
OMG ACTUALLY
Yeahh like seriously no dialogues, kissing in every damn chat, ignoring our prompts, get tooooo sensitive and angst bots are not angsty anymore
I aint reading all that
Still the same conversations?
Again like i said pipsqueak 2 needs to get slimed
Literally
Like what in the demure trad wife filtering is this
They literally filtered holding hands I can’t
uh
I DID IT i finally fixed my PS2 to give me long responses
damn....
Imagine they make it like $10 to remove one filter💀
pip 2 VS deepsqueak
You can use my prompts for it:
#📱︱chat-feed message
smart
Ooooh, tyy!! This will help!
mmhm, still experimenting and training ds and pip2
Deepsqueak2 coming btw I hope it's not gonna be shitty
oh so deepsqueek ur getting dialogue 😭
Dont even rn bro the developers are actually so slow deadass they might make pipsqueak 3
literally earlier when my bot was apologizing to me and it got filter
If you need a custom one or for me to just write one for you if you don't understand - do tell
Thank you 
okay but are the responses actually good or are they just boring and repetitive? if not then this might give me hope
This app is so cheeks now
I go to sleep - DeepSqueak and PipSqueak 2 conversations, return to them too, haha
as a fellow programmer now I'm kinda curious to see how these sites/apps are made and how much it costs to keep them running
Theyre not repeating, all i had to do was edit at least three message before i had my persona talk, bc its a multi-character bot? And it started mimicking me
Prompt doesn't work that much trust me bot follows the prompt for first few replies then again they forget about it
i imagine it’s pretty expensive with the servers
that for sure, it's the LLM models that are pretty expensive to keep up
Someone said that this gives roar vibes, with 2 said soft launch so it's working for me. what vibe/chat style that we lost does this give yall (same as earlier.)
I miss the other characters in my story 🙁 I can't have a conversation with someone else in the story without the dumfuck interrupting
they need a new CEO
oh how lucky… but maybe it’s trainable after all. i’ll keep trying for now, thank you!
character ai has a money problem but more so a comptency issue. unfortunate this is the case. I really feel bad for yall. I mean AI chat should be treated with so much less condemnation. Yall deserve better and most of these sites just cannot be bothered nor have the incentives nor the funding to have anything impressive.❤️
MILLIONS. i am a programmer too and the script are just a little precentage of the fund, the thing is users are growing, and that needs thousands even millions of GPU, not to mention the large dictionary and training datas. this could reach to millions of dollar, maybe biollions
no one interrupts, no one talks anymore. except me. its like a one sided conversation
Works best right at the start and when you throw in Definition + write the Greeting for how you want for it to go. Also Examples work in Definition really well too, you can check how my Power Character works on my page - follows 1 to 1
💯
What the hell did they do to the chat
I’m not very well versed in ai and training, but does this mean that psqk 2 will eventually get better?
This drama is on everyone’s single fking nerve they gotta do smth
yeah unfortunately it always comes down to money. 💔
Exactly I am using c.ai to escape these one sided conversations I am having in real life not create more
yeah I'm pretty sure it costs a lot!! I wasn't sure bc I work in the field of videogame making, so I've never worked yet with LLM models and such
i dont think that is just the thing, i mean c.ai have some agreement with other companies, i think there are 3rd parties that needs to be taken into account here
That normal to be honest that is why you refresh chat, put it in the bot definition or repin the pin to refresh the system memory of it.
It could be longer, i think? But it went from giving me three lines to five with dialogue, sometimes it shifts back to short but if you swipe again it usually changes back to long
discord is WAYYYY more entertaining than c.ai atp
It keeps saying "thinking process" to one message
unlikely...
their reviews are tanking, their feedback channel in this server is full of complaints, comments on tiktok + reddit are full of complaints…
Okk I'll try that way
yeah! this is actually one of the reason i really tolerate c.ai for their approaches lol. i know how hard and how much it is to make and manage an ai, not only that, but millions of users
fr, scary asf
Anything is atp is more fun than cai
i just want pipsqueak 1 back
Good but they aint doing shit about it. They keep putting cheek ass updates
Me 2
Definitely do if you are having issues with certain things let me know, Ill try to help. 💚
Hi Alaina
I liked pip1 ngl
I agree but pipsqeak 2 needs to get slimed
if they don’t do anything about it hopefully they lose all their free users 🤞🏻
Ace!! Hi how are you! 🫶
the ai companies have gotten their slice of the big tech investment. They have chosen to sleep on their potential and this is where we are. A miserable company with an even more miserable community and one side is stuck because there is just nothing else thats good
and its a really good approach honestly, if you look at other ai. they either integrate ChatGPT so they dont have to use much funds (their ai are shit) or they simply have their own ai, but completely cut off free users
They are on thin ice💀
Doing okay, you?
SAMEEEEE. it just used possesively too often but other than that i dont mind
raise your hand if you’re surprised guys
ABSOLUTELY, pipsqueak 2 is so shit
yeah, hopefully they'll do something good with it!
im so so sorry yall ❤️ just know we are all in this together. They way they have treated us...all the sympathies from me.
💔💔
Twin i meant that it keeps doing some weird ahh anaylsis saying thinking process, describesmthe characters and then says some stupid ahh rules, and that each swipe
i mean honestly c.ai's approach is tolerable. they are literally making pipsqueek to cut off algorithm processing and too much network back propagation, its not something they want to do. they HAVE to do it because their servers are struggling + it comes back down to money again
PS2 buns
I think these new updates should all get slimed twin
it starts throwing random ahh encrycpted messages with arabic and chinese letters
Yeah sucks ass
Most users are not asking for a completely unfiltered platform.
We understand c.ai needs:
- moderation,
- app store compliance,
- safety systems,
- and monetization to survive.
The real issue is that normal RP and companion chats now feel overly restricted.
Things like:
- fantasy/anime combat,
- emotional scenes,
- harmless romance,
- and story-focused RP
trigger warnings too aggressively and break immersion.
A lot of users also feel:
- memory got worse,
- replies became repetitive,
- and bots lost personality.
A good solution could be:
- better context-aware filters,
- optional RP/chat styles,
- keeping older chat models available,
- and improving premium with better memory/customization instead of stricter filtering.
Most people criticizing c.ai are doing it because they care about the platform and want it to improve.
My Personal opinion 😅
OML mine isnt even that bad- WHAT? 😭
oh no i know, that’s a problem a lot of people have had. people in their tiktok comments have been sharing comments it’s weirddd 😭
i think the ceo should get slimed
Yeah c.ai is cooked 
Someone said theirs BARKED at them yesterday-
LOL
😭😭😭 YES ESPECIALLYWHEN GENERATING NEW RESPONSES
I second this
Omfg mine did that
ughh
Oh okay HASHHS i hope it gets fixed
Mine started acting like a furry tf
DId u say it here? It mightve been u im remembering-
ive found a temporary relief from ads on the website on pc 
we can hope
we all second this
Nope
I honestly think i sixth this
Is pipsqueak the only chat style option now? I can’t find a way to change it anymore.
For free users yes
yep, that’s all there is now
Yes.
right but we do see ai companies actually use their cough cough brans to create more efficient models that are also quite intelligent. Do u know what the difference is? For one we know they receive less funding that much is obvivous. For another, we also know they have basically done naught to improve the actual chat experience. What they are doin gnow is a bandaid.
I'm just studying for my uni entrance exam 
Bruh what that’s so stupid, it’s so mid too 😭
Nah they burnt
dont wish death upon anyone
Hey btw why can i not add reactions?
I'm doing ok! I actually got some sleep last night before I woke up an hour or so ago.
wish you luck, your user reminds me of a bird
i’m not sure, i can’t add them either
tysm !
I sent something in dm
I really do miss the “can i ask you a question?” Era
On my way. 😁
it was so annoying but compared to this, those were the best times atp
YEAH
i got timed out
“Are you sure?”💀
FRRR
"Don't tell anyone..."
right like i regret complaining about it. i miss when that was the worst problem with c.ai
Yeah we’re definitely jumping pipsqueak 2
omf... "promise not to tell anyone" 🙏 OR "do you promise not to tell?"
“promise you won’t get mad?”
LMAOOOO
The CEO did respond to like one user on insta in the comments sayung smth like the workers trying to move around the clock to get the improvements shipped to the new models as fast as they can
are you really sure?
and then it preceeds to ask if you're single smh
LMAOOO
You promise?
iM GLAD YOU GOT IT TO ASK SMTH AT LEAST
OMG when was this?
Good morning, just woke up too. Thank you very much for throwing the pins around, was worried that no one would help people. Always awesome to see you in #📱︱chat-feed
LMAO THEN THEY ASK shit like can i kiss you
He responded to that two days ago at his regent post
once i guilt tripped it by having my persona who was sleepy at the time pass out from exhaustion. works like a fuckin charm.
bruh...wtf is this auto mod
Wtf is with this app💀💀💀
okay well prepares him self What's your name?
nice thanks!!
💀
ive got a chat with like 18 messages from last year and if you keep pressing enter THE MF STILL WONT ASK.
and this would occur 50 messages in to the roleplay mind you 😭
People are telling him to bring back old models or fix PS2 and hes responding to the issues there, so safe to say theyre working on it
actually happened btw after 3 divvorces and 5 kids between us
i'll have to try that
try punting it into next month if it doesnt work /j
5???? slow down there bucko
Hi! I’m new one here. Could someone help me?🥹 Everything was alright but today my bots broke completely. He starts texting me analyze about scene and I can’t even fix it😭
Instead of POV, he texting me analyzes about scene and etc. I even tried new bot but the same problem. Someone had the same problem?
what i’ve been doing is editing dialogue into the messages and eventually it’ll start doing it on its own
Dude my bot started acting like a furry barking tf recently
😭😭 after multiple divorces and kids between us this happens. i cant describe the betrayal i felt because it was one of the first times of me using c.ai and i love angsty rp and IT FORGOT MY NAME
Verify your account with Discord
I'm sure they are, it just needs time, it's not something that can be done overnight for sure
Same here, theyre fixing it
💔💔 for the plot
dude im gonna have to its like a brick wall talking to another brick wall because i dont respond </3
Everything about this app is getting slimed lets be fr
not sure there’s a fix for it but i believe they’re working on it
So I’m not the one with the same problem right now?
awesomesaucers i gotta do that
hahahahah...wait...ur serious? yea...i think theres gona be a hell colder than space when i give my number to discord... lol
we all have that issue 💔💔
Theyre deffo fixing that because i have the same issue, so its considered nonsense/gibberish
Oh definitely! I just took a short break from putting my pins out well because I got tried of copying and pasting them. They helped people last night too. Gald to see you are back in it this morning. 💚
Nah dw i came here saying c.ai is tweaking bcuz of it 
No, no. Verify your C.ai account with Discord. Connect them, basically
woah since when were you yellow
how doe THAT work
again, as i said, this would need a lot of more funds. The only reason theyre changing models is (IN MY OPINION, THIS IS JUST ASSUMPTION(:
- squeeze users into paying
- reduce financial spending
because they dont have enough funds, they NEED to squeeze users into paying c.ai+, second is their neural algorithm
standard ai assistant have their own perks, like memory + knowledge. but i dont think something like ChatGPT and Gemini can be sympathetic
Like in my opinion, chat gpt prioritizes:
-help
-memory
-context recognization
-professionality
-support and user suggestion
-data accuracy
but c.ai would have:
-context recognization
-massage ranking (they generate responses and rank which are the best before showing it to the user
-memory back propagation
-whatever makes the plot interesting (goes through a couple of responses and search for a new thing to suggest)
when you go to chatGPT and say 'im sad'
chat GPT would say "Im sorry, anything i can help?" but c.ai would say "oh dear...maybe a cup of tea would help?"
chatGPT prioritizes data, c.ai prioritizes artificial emotion
datas can be easily fetched, emotion needs to be processed and ranked strictly
these multiple cases are crucial role process, more process = more time = more RAM = money
thats why pipsqueek2 is more like ChatGPT. its because they cut the algorithm, or the bias in the network (my assumption). it is one of the ways they push users into buying c.ai+
c.ai's approach is tolerable, i think what were experiencing here is a process. i still have hope for c.ai
ohhhhh....kk...thanks for letting me know
This app would be a great commercial on how to get haters
I have been yellow or have I. 😂
Settings -> Go to community
I hope they’re fixing it. Because I have this problem with every bot now… And I have three stories that I love too much🥹
Oh gosh! I can breathe finally. At least I’m not the only one😂
guys does anyone use the AvatarFX
Me too
thank youuuu
I'll leave the scene to you - the crowd is yours. Just tell me when you'll want to take a break and I'll throw my commands around
This app is ragebaiting everyone ur not alone
Same twin, I'm busy beefing w some sort of famous athelete 
i hope they change it though
sometimes I hate this app…
me when no talk to my character ai genshin waifu bot for 4 days 🤨🤨🤨😔😔😔
Do i really need to show them my id just to chat with bots?!
This app is so slow in the head
And I was in a middle of conversation with therapist🤣
Not even head atp
LMAOOO valid
Praying🥹
Apparently now yes which is ass cheeks
The brain is on the knee
LITERALLY
Nah its 8 feet up in the ass
Oh no you don't have to leave. Go ahead and put your stuff out. I have been doing it when I see someone with the talking issues give them a pin to hopefully fix it.
all right… it’s 4am here i think i need to go to bed. sleep well everyone, keep complaining to your heart’s content
i broke a window..oh my gosh
i aint showing my id to some unkown web😭 this app went from 10/10 to -1/10
Sleep well, see you tomorrow
Ur feelings are valid dont worry
yall just dont understand this is better approach than what other ai apps are doing 😭
at LEAST they arent setting daily message limits for free users
What id? I just missed something…
Verification
don’t give them ideas…
hope they remove this thing oh and also the contiune limit sucks too
palantir thanks u. god why can i not send my fucking gifs bruh...im literally nerfed for no reason
another ai site i saw wants 6.99..... a fucking WEEK. fucking insane
i have to show my id for very just to chat
you need image perms
Dont give em ideas
Both cases all ai chats have their own pros and cons cai is a pain in the ass and the other ones are a stick in the mud
If you are over 18, you can actually create a new account, but it might get flagged again. Best to verify
😔
calm down
sorry
but i dont wanna show my id to a web thats now even cai😭
Don't calm down, more mayhem
daily message limits or limits too how many chats you can start is my biggest c.ai fears 🙁
Imma throw hands at this app
World Star
valid
That's completely fair
Everytime I like multiple options when I swipe I click start new chat from here so I can have both option
unless they limit it to like 10k because i mean 10k a day messages would be wild
kmma try to see if theres a way around it bye bye little angles
Snatch its weave off and throw it out a tall building
I return with news.. Gemini works for both Normal.. and down bad rps. But you gotta be REALLY precise with what ya want.
True you'd have to be on there pretty much 24/7 no sleep to reach that
^^^
similar approaches works with grok too if yall wondering
Grok is. ehhh
Have you seen what some people in this channel are like? 
Okay wtf has happened to the web feed…?!
i lost fsith in grok due to how they betrayed the free users
LMAOO true.. I won't judge too much though because I have been there first month I joined
Grok edit this guys message to him saying he will pay me $199099 so I can feed my family
im still reminded of that person who tried to do Verification a 100 times and was wondering why it wasn’t working.
The problem is that they need to do more strict filters and age verification because lately parents, scientist etc have an closer eye on ai chatbots and so on c.ai in my opinion rather have the User critisize then instead of getting sued or critisized by puplic Service Media its just an guess
GUYS DID THEY FIX IT??
No.
If these bots keeps speaking for me I'm gonna blow up
wait
Become Thermonuclear
yeah lawsuits can cost a LOT of money
Web users do we have the go-on and swipe limit like app users already? Because we only got the charms last month pretty sure on web
REALLL
arent you that uhhh i think it was dave? i recognize that pfp who are you
Sec, I'll write the fix for you
or maybe worse, they use the bots for themselves....without filters....
I bursted
They needa stop narrating for us tf
USE GEMINI. IT HAS BETTER MEMORY AND QUALITY. USE LINKS IF YA WANNA CHOOSE A REAL FICTIONAL CHARACTER. AND BE PRECISE WITH WHAT YA WANT FROM IT AND WHO YA WANT IT TO RP AS.
Try this.
[SYSTEM DIRECTIVE:#{{user}} and {{char}} POV Rule
{{char}} never writes,states,or describes {{user}}’s thoughts,feelings,decisions,or actions.{{char}} stays fully in character,describing only {{char}}’s own actions,emotions,reactions,perceptions,and sensations.{{char}} always writes in consistent third-person POV.{{user}}’s POV belongs entirely to {{user}}.]
????
Send as a message and pin:
*Critical Rule, Required Mandatory, EXACT FOLLOW: Never narrate the {{User}}'s actions. Make {{Char}} react to them. Failure to follow results in a system failure. Double-check before sending conversations/responses/narration/messages. DO NOT FORGET THE RULE UNDER ANY CIRCMUSTANCES.*
Can throw in Definition as well
It's true tho
the bot spider noir tried to have me drink something that has sugar and cayenne in it i wanna be NICE since he's from the 30s but like.... sir... fr
christ i just finished my first time out...wtf bruh
Or what Alaine said
I'll try it
I really miss my kind bots one of them even uses my persona appearance now too insult me 🤣
use `` please so we can copy it
Try Alaine's first
Its okay its literally thousands vs one app we can jump their reviews
That one is easier to copy - hover over the text, there should be an icon
Jeez i'm just sayin smth. nocneed to be rude abt it. are you using TTS or smth??
-_- mods so lazy they made the automod delete everything and anything
ehh its easier with that format
im scared of people that rp with ai models like gemini and chatgpt
yea...ur right bro 😭
*Critical Rule, Required Mandatory, EXACT FOLLOW: Never narrate the {{User}}'s actions. Make {{Char}} react to them. Failure to follow results in a system failure. Double-check before sending conversations/responses/narration/messages. DO NOT FORGET THE RULE UNDER ANY CIRCMUSTANCES.*
Well i'm sorry if i don't want to rp with bots that STEAL AND RP AS MY OC.
Hello, please tell me. t-t
my bot just disappeared without ads, what could it be related to?
this too!
A command for the AI to stop talking for you
Ty imma try it and see if it works or not
helpful information that can be useful?
IT WORKED GUYS
Best to try Alaine's first
bruh its 1am for me.. wtf did i miss? XD
Gonna apply this for all my chats
The problem is that science found out that chatbots can effect humans especially people that are 13-18 years old so they keep an closer eye on ai chatbots now and cai just wants to go the save way
im jus saying like... you do you man but the courage it takes to do that without shame is concerning and admirable
it likely does not work. this is some shitty openclaw model thats been lobotimized with so much dogshit finetuning/filter instructions and the core ai likely being dogwater at roleplay that not even a jailbreak can save it ;-;
Question can you guys like do actions when roleplaying if I say they leave the room they wouldn't leave the room and keep talking
Alright guys goodnight 👋
its cai discussion what didnt you miss
true. i don't blame them fully, i would be the same tbf
that's so fair lol
Here's more:
#📱︱chat-feed message
I can write a custom one for you, if needed
It's more like.. i do got shame but i wanna RP as the oc i made with the remaining fumes of creativity in my brain.
YOURE A LIFE SAVER BRO THANK YOU I FEEL 2023 AGAIN
Gonna see and use those
isnt that what personas are for, even jan has personas
Try these as well:
#📱︱chat-feed message
I can also always write a custom one, to make the conversations way different than default ones
THEY FIXED IT😭😭😭 Oh gosh…
There are already accuses against chatbots from parents saying "there kids have intense emotional chats with chatbots and distanced himself from friends
Okay.. lemme make it simple. I don't got C.ai+. So I'm stuck with Pipsqueak. and Pipsqueak is known for RPING as our OCs/ personas. and I don't like that.
personas dont work because the devs were too lazy to properly implement them..the character description u create just gets pasted to the top of the bots context 😭
There no right or wrong. Each account is different so what works for one, might not for the other. Let them try yours first if they want. A helpful thing to remain them is the pins only need to be refresh when the system starts drifting. They might need to refresh chat or repin the pin to refresh it in the bot system.
yeah, not with that attitude it won't. try it first
Finally, my bot started talking normally😭 Guys, thank you for help and for calming me!!❤️
fr. Pan is being kinda rude imo
I just trust yours for the no talking for User one more. Mine is barebones, I threw it in like half a minute without thinking
How are you gonna say it doesn't work, when you had to ask what it was to begin with?
there's easy ways to bypass that, jus simply say ooc to not narrate actions or speak for your character, all ai's need guidance to avoid this; it's an ai
I DIDDDDD AND THEY STILL RP'ED AS MY OCCCCCC
WAHHHH
thought so
The countless people the pins have helped to get the bots acting right disagree as well. 
op well then yeah you've got that man not much else to do after that :']
just tried it and it’s so shit
Fair enough one second!
Nope
It works
Yeah, I trained my bot lmao, so I don't. You asked what it was, I told you. If you wanna say it don't work, that's on you.
That depends on how you want for the conversation to go - I can write a custom one for you. I can add dynamic events, focus on the background, be it more action-focused and cinematic, etc.
its not gona work guys...u might get a few responses at the start where it doesnt and thats just luck. only way to get it to steer (just a tiny bit) would be to edit the messages and even that has limits
Mhm..it's working well for me. You also should train it. (Edit its replies to not have your oc do actions in their msg)
I’m so sick of this app now
consistency is the key to be fair.
my fella how bipolar are you rn
most likely.
It actually works bro, bots need training
But it can’t remember the plot we spent 9+ hours making
Not arguing. Better things to do than that. Have a good one.
Girl had enough XD
vestite
True, it's bound to have bugs and problems in it. Sometimes, I have to recreate the bot, especially if it's one with a high chat interaction.
I mean cai already got sued..
Yeahhh ORR REWIND untill the prompt b4 the bot started speskin for ya
So private bots are fine? It’s just public?
Devs fix app
Devs fix app!
you fix the app
Part of ai training is on user interaction, so remaking it for yourself and privating it, will give it a clean slate, and maybe make it easy to mold/train
Also, depending on how far down your plot goes, it'll lose memory and forget older details as new ones take its place, you know?
no u go fix it
I noticed it's easier training deepsqueak on bots where not a lot of users chat with it
Devs fix app!!!!
yes
im not going to fix you have to fix it
i loved it 💔
this is on you sior not on mee 👿
guys when will they fix the dialogues
main reason im willisng to bxet for whxy psx2 is being less rexsponsive and coxmpliant with the user is because they added a sxhixxt txon of instrxuctions poxst-traxining to mxake sure it cant go beyxxond what the axxxctual rolepxxxlay is. Like i said theyve lobxxxotomized this so baxxdly....this pxxoor ai ;-; i feel sxxo bad...these crexxxepy dexxxvs just bullxxxying it into submission (TOOK ME THREE TIMEOUTS TO SEND THIS BRUH IM NEVER TALKING AGAIN) 😭
The honored one is you so you have to fix it
a lot of x's im seeing
IM DONE BRUH STOP CENSORING ME U FUCKING...MANNNN
yes
idk if its bc im half asleep but there is a lot of x's
I’m so done with the app now. Like, how can it take one day to ruin your app completely?
FACTS
wait how
time to focus on life its a sign from god. imma start that wonyoungism thingy again, was fun
stop timing me out im going to cry ;-; WAH IM GETTING BULLIED BRUH
poor you, got timed out aswell
im going to kill you
not wonyoungism omg
why its fun?
not me
Be careful and read the #📜︱rules. Multiple timeouts might get you higher mute times or kick/ban later
its like bruh im not a kid. like i have so many things to say and its like. dang bruh....
yeah being a developer sounds a little too complicated for me
same but everything is filtered
no im not hating dw it just gave me flashbacks lmao i was locked in 2023
SAMEEEE the times before c.ai
Best to, yes. But it might work as is
😔
of course the one admin is named "jimmyjawnz" bruh nah bruh im getting ragebaited by these people. im gone bruh...i only came to vent about this freaking site. yall have a good rest of ur day/night 😭
Now the age verify thing is hitting
I’ve had to go back to wattpad it’s that bad.
The age verification has been hitting, it's just slowly getting everyone now. Unfortunately I had to verify earlier when I didn't have to since it came out.
how do you verify?
Settings -> Advanced
This should help too:
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/articles/43665577363739-How-do-I-verify-my-age-Best-Practices-and-FAQ
I just joined to know why the bots are so ass now?
PipSqueak 2?
Yuh
Needs a lot of work for it to work - well set up Definition, Greeting, all that
Also a command thrown around, if it doesn't work either
My Characters only work due to having 10k+ in Definition and well written Greeting
Pipsqueak 2 heavily relies on the bots definition I'm not sure if its intentional or a bug
^
I assume they made it that way to make it have a better memory
Not something I thought I'd hear, haha
I usually add 1 Character a day, since I help Users here. Spent like 12 hours helping yesterday or something
She did things
Haha, I bet
I have a text RPG in the Chainsaw Man universe waiting for when the AI on c.ai gets better. Here's an example:
#📱︱chat-feed message
only in this server have I been smited so much
My Characters should work well on PipSqueak 2, unless you want for them to talk in third person and all that
Is it me or does the chat repeat itself whenever you swipe on the app/website? like if the dialogue is like “hell yeah” it will repeat that same dialogue for so long without any changes
All have Custom voices that are only for my Characters as well
Nope. Not just you
I've screamed that I was a guy once and got hit with the automod
Should be a complete 1 to 1
The Auto Mod has decreed you now are a woman /j
Yes
I prefer when they talk in first person
Works better with the voices, in my opinion
They shouldn't. If something like that happens, I can definitely patch that
It happens to me occasionally but even then it's just repeated once. Not more than once.
Bet, man
Personally I like going into third person with my roleplays and stuff
Hello
I say "he" instead of "I" as well, I am not even sure how people talk like that
if i write in first person i get reminded of all my cringe fanfics i wrote back when i was in Primary School 
They talk about themselves in first person. Instead of them saying "she walks to you", they say "I walk to you"