💭︱cai-discussion

[craggy marsh]

gaming gives you a lot of skills such as problem solving and critical thinking 😭

[little arrow]

The joy sticks? 😭

[vestal forge]

isn’t that pointless with the styles and just retiring them just to two options but they haven’t improved much with the styles to begin with 😭

[loud cypress]

Depends on the game. I play genshin and wuwa which gave me some skills and better reaction time and puzzle games are to die for

[brave lily]

No, they’re thumb thingamabobs. (Yeah, the joysticks. )

[glass scaffold]

Yes cai keeps giving shitty update after shitty update. My advice is ao3 or find a discord roleplay server atp

[smoky dust]

I LOVE AO3

[vestal forge]

done second option

[little arrow]

I genuinely feel like you GOT ripped off here LMAO no controller is truly worth $200

[steep sphinx]

A lot of collectors editions sell for that much

[brave lily]

I actually wanted it tbh. It’s actually quite nice.

[craggy marsh]

i think the $200 controller is much more valuable than c.ai+

[little arrow]

It is which is great

[steep sphinx]

I have a limited edition TLOU PS5 controller I bought for around $150 AUS

[little arrow]

Well. As long as you are satisfied

[sly geyser]

i just saw the price of the steam controller what the fuck is that price

[zinc birch]

Okay, that is fair, depending on the person and the game

[hot ridge]

gaming is consumption of fiction, a story and concept/mechanics that a human being produced, and includes problem solving skills, strategizing, depth perception awareness, reaction time and fine motor skills, and entertainment

So like. What?

[little arrow]

I can't fathom paying 100+ for a controller unless it's giving me a second one or the tools to repair it hell nah 😭

[craggy marsh]

i mean... at least you actually own the controller

[glass scaffold]

Ur sooo right.. Ur so right ily

[craggy marsh]

people are getting way too comfortable owning nothing these days and it concerns me

[brave lily]

It’s this exact controller.

[hot ridge]

It's one of my favorite hobbies in the world

[little arrow]

And the skill to be pissed off at moving pixels

[craggy marsh]

i will buy it to destroy it in a cuphead-induced rage

[sly geyser]

50-60$ i’d understand but 100$ is really high for a controller

[hot ridge]

[little arrow]

I'm dead

[hot ridge]

I technically spend like $200+ on a "controller" if it's a keyboard

[brave lily]

Perks of making adult money tbh.

[supple portal]

Hola

[hot ridge]

[glass scaffold]

The only reason I use cai is because I get fixated on fictional characters that don't have enough media for me to consume, otherwise I wouldn't be caught dead using it 😮‍💨

[little arrow]

Never understood it even if I had the money for it 😭

[craggy marsh]

literally me. i would read fanfic if there was actually enough fanfic for my fandom...

[hot ridge]

oh idk i just use it to stress test my own characters

[brave lily]

Could be worse, some people spend $1,000+ for a phone.

[steep sphinx]

Well it’s a good thing everyone is their own individual person and can make their own choices

[glass scaffold]

ACTUALLY ACTUALLY ACTUALLY

[sly geyser]

the steam controller is 99$ and idk why the hell its so high

[little arrow]

Yeah crazy isn't it chloe isn't the concept crazy chloe isn't it crazy

[glass scaffold]

Actually since tomodatchi life came out I've been using cai less bc I just make fictional characters and customise it to them

[steep sphinx]

[sly geyser]

people are freaking out that my area had a 2.8 earthquake

[little arrow]

Even worst. People spend 1k on them EVERY YEAR

[brave lily]

I’ve been gaming more and reading comic books.

[hot ridge]

I bought the new tomodachi life and got bored in 2 days with the repetitive interactions. The 3ds one was better imo

[hot ridge]

me, im one

[little arrow]

Found the drone. How did the government lose you

[craggy marsh]

how does one have that much money

[hot ridge]

Im about to do a payment plan for the new Samsung Galaxy in August

[glass scaffold]

Yeah it's the kind of game where you check in once in a while

[sly geyser]

get a really good career

[little arrow]

That's insane. (Do one for me)

[craggy marsh]

not even that's gonna save you in this economy 😭

[hot ridge]

I know, i had the original, it kept me entertained for months

[glass scaffold]

I'm mildly entertained still bc Im taking it super slow, I'm still only level 30 with like 10 miis so there's still a lot for me to unlock

[little arrow]

Squishy living in a different tax bracket

[hot ridge]

Most phone providers, at least in the U.S., will tack on a 2 year payment plan to your phone bill for new devices

[glass scaffold]

Also get a job in like America and save up and then go to South East Asia. Currency exchange is wild and you can live off of ur savings without work

[hot ridge]

bro it's like $22/month with my trade-in, it's not that crazy

it's pretty standard

[little arrow]

First challenge: getting a job in America

[sly geyser]

yeah my cell service had a “free” upgrade every few years which in reality they just discounted it

[craggy marsh]

just about to say the same thing, are we living on a different planet???

[little arrow]

Must be nice. I can't relate

[glass scaffold]

I sometimes feel bad for Americans but then, yk, Americans

[brave lily]

Personally, I wouldn’t want to spend too too much for a phone. I don’t want to get some cheap ass phone but I don’t want to break the bank too.

[sly geyser]

getting a job is easy just paying for the bills and all of that is a challenge

[craggy marsh]

as an american yeah i agree

[sly geyser]

thats the only reason i upgrade my phone

[little arrow]

He says while a lot of people are unemployed 💔

[sly geyser]

ok maybe not easy but its not impossible

[brave lily]

Sometimes you just have to apply the hell out of places.

[brave lily]

Apply to work at a grocery store.

[craggy marsh]

some people have applied to 500+ jobs and haven't got employed

[sly geyser]

damn really? i did not know that

[glass scaffold]

I'm supporting only you specifically from SEA

[craggy marsh]

unemployment is terrible for a reason. it measures the amount of people who are actively looking for work but can't obtain it

[little arrow]

That's not always going to work especially the ones near mine (fake ass applications)

[craggy marsh]

thank you chat

[brave lily]

Even big brand stores like Walmart?

[little arrow]

The manager is shit so is the hiring team

[hot ridge]

I'm not rich, but I can have decent things because of payment plans like that. And I always actually pay on time so that helps.

And I'm not saying this from a place of not understanding struggle. I used to be a homeless addict.

It's just about working the system really.

[sly geyser]

i heard mcdonalds was hard to get in to

[brave lily]

The only manager?

[little arrow]

Can't fathom why it is

[little arrow]

Forgot the s. I meant managers

[sly geyser]

probably because they dont have any available spots because a lot of people apply to them

[brave lily]

I had to apply multiple times to get hired on at the store I work at.

[craggy marsh]

i only have a job bc i knew someone working there and they got me in

[sly geyser]

i might apply to a job next month

[hot ridge]

Also a lot of people applying are teenagers that end up getting the jobs too, so adults applying is kind of harder in positions like that

[glass scaffold]

I just wanna say that furry artists make absolute bank as someone who has a friend with constant customers side job

[brave lily]

Happened with me as well. The guy that did my interviews was friends with my brother so I basically got in pretty easily.

[sly geyser]

yeah that makes sense

[craggy marsh]

yep, so i'm definitely lucky in that regard, because a lot of people don't have that luxury :(

[sly geyser]

i might apply to walmart or target or best buy

[brave lily]

As long as you’re getting paid, don’t worry about other people not getting paid too much. Only try to help yourself and those you can possibly help as best you can.

[craggy marsh]

why shouldn't i worry about my fellow citizens not getting paid?

[brave lily]

Walmart is a best bet tbh. They pay pretty well.

[hot ridge]

My work is uh... it's shit pay. But I'm finally getting somewhere with it while surviving on student loans simultaneously.

[sly geyser]

alrighty then

[hot ridge]

[brave lily]

You can only control what you can control. Worrying about others not getting paid will slow your progress down.

[craggy marsh]

uhhh okay then

anyway 😭

[hot ridge]

[brave lily]

At the store I work at, my boss makes 6 figures. So I’m gonna steal her position.

[ornate kayak]

Does anyone have a work around for when chats error and won't respond to you anymore?

[hot ridge]

maybe try a VPN

[craggy marsh]

usually just rewinding until the last working message

[hot ridge]

unless you're using scenes

[ornate kayak]

It's a scene

[sly geyser]

i just want a job that i can enjoy and get payed well

[craggy marsh]

oh nvm know nothing about scenes

[hot ridge]

there is no fix, it's been a problem since June on all duplicated scenes chats

[craggy marsh]

c.ai when choosing between fixing bugs or nuking favourite chat styles

[brave lily]

Same tbh. Hell, I wish I just got paid and didnt have a job tbh.

[sly geyser]

fucking sore throat again

[hot ridge]

I've lost multiple RPs to that

[sly geyser]

shit that’d be nice

[glass scaffold]

So what chat model rn would be best since roar is dead and original ps is gone

[hot ridge]

quitting i guess

[sly geyser]

WOHOO GOODBYE OLD PISS SQUEAK

[glass scaffold]

Meow seems like the best bet rn..

[sly geyser]

isnt that going away?

[hot ridge]

yup

[glass scaffold]

It's in legacy so it's still useable

[sly geyser]

🫗

[hot ridge]

until May 8th

[brave lily]

Ngl, I might stay since I’m not too too affected since I mainly just used PS and DS the most anyways. I just still think it sucks they stripped away the models on such a short notice like this though.

[hot ridge]

So I wouldn't get used to it

[sly geyser]

ok at least with those they gave a heads up

[hot ridge]

I'm not gonna stay on c.ai, Nams can celebrate that I guess lol

Can't change it, but there isn't much that's keeping me here

My favorite RPs got lost because if a chat error bug, and my favorite chat style is gone

[sly geyser]

i might leave if pipsqueak 2 is also bad because i dont want to use something that isnt good

[hot ridge]

It's been pretty poor

[glass scaffold]

It's shit rn

[hot ridge]

Obsessed with kissing, gives no dialogue

[brave lily]

Quite the opposite for me though.

[glass scaffold]

It just rambles on and on

[sly geyser]

might sound like a stupid reason but it doesnt seem worth the trouble of verifying just to have dogshit quality

[sly geyser]

does it get possessive or pin you to walls or nibble your ears like it has an obsession with?

[brave lily]

Honestly though, I’ll keep using both PS2/DS until I leave the service as a whole.

[hot ridge]

I didn't use it that long, only by accident when I started a new chat

[sly geyser]

oh ok

[little arrow]

grabs your wrist

[half lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-regina-george-why-are-you-obsessed-with-me-rachel-mc-adams-gif-13631942

[little arrow]

grabs your wrist even though we're 15 miles apart from each bother

[brave lily]

Though you asked Squishy, I haven’t experienced that as of yet.

[sly geyser]

is it worse than pipsqueak 1?

[half lotus]

I’m minding my own business, leave me alone

Weird behavior dude

[sly geyser]

its a general question to everyone honestly

[half lotus]

Very much so yeah

[brave lily]

In my experience, PS2 is quite good. Some room for improvement but pretty good though.

[sly geyser]

“comes closer to where the user and the bot fucking weld together and become a conjoined twin”

[hot ridge]

I noticed a lot faster that I was accidentally using it than I did with Pipsqueak

[brave lily]

Though, once I finally decide to stop using C.ai as a whole, I’ll probably leave the discord server as well. This server is the only thing C.ai related that I’m in.

[little arrow]

Don't leave. Witness the apps downfall together

[hot ridge]

meh

[sly geyser]

🫡

[hot ridge]

I have other shit to do

[brave lily]

Nah, I’m not really that bored to watch some service have a “downfall”. Life’s too short to worry how a service will go.

[glass scaffold]

The dialogue is cringe and doesn't make much sense. It dragggs scenes on so much and makes up wattpad ass scenarios 😪

[sharp verge]

if any one uses j*nitor please help

[little arrow]

It's sad but I understand

[hot ridge]

this is the c.ai discord buddy

[sly geyser]

dont they have their own discord?

[hot ridge]

yep lmao

[sharp verge]

i cant join

[brave lily]

Just go to the subreddit for that.

[glass scaffold]

Oh that's the one I was thinking of

[sharp verge]

send server😬

[sly geyser]

is it worse than before?

[hot ridge]

I'm not in it

[brave lily]

Why can’t you join it?

[hot ridge]

Post on the reddit if the join link is expired

[sly geyser]

then go on the subreddit for them

[sharp verge]

invalid or expired

[brave lily]

On the subreddit?

[sharp verge]

dc

[hot ridge]

Go ask in the subreddit for a new link

[little arrow]

Asking on the rivals discord is absolutely atrocious shit

[glass scaffold]

Hundred percent for me. PS was growing on me because it described scenes rather good, and Roar was good because the dialogue was clever. PS2 is just bullshit tbh

[brave lily]

Tf that mean?

[hot ridge]

discord

[astral condor]

Please don't mention 18+ sites here as it's against the rules and minors are here. Thank you.

[brave lily]

Go to the subreddit and use the invite there.

[sly geyser]

detective comics

[little arrow]

I'm getting too old for this

[thorn surge]

Why is roar being retired... I genuinely hate pipsqueak 😞

[brave lily]

Same though.

[pliant nebula]

please go to their discord server to get help with their platform, it is censored here for a reason thanks

[glass scaffold]

Bc cai succkks

[hot ridge]

because they're either broke as fuck or hella out of touch with their userbase

the j situation was already passed

[glass scaffold]

Miss after miss with cai updates, ain't been one good thing

[thorn surge]

Pipsqueak number one hater btw because why does it come up with completely unrelated random stuff in the middle of a conversation ??
-# Like what hat are you suddenly talking about there was never a hat 😒

[hot ridge]

I loved books

not enough to stay

[glass scaffold]

I never tried it

[glass scaffold]

ACTUALLY AND PS2 IS WORSE BC IT DOES THAT X10

[feral thistle]

THEYRE TAKING OFF SOFT LAUNCH ??? IM SO SAD .

[hot ridge]

every chat style except PS and DS

[feral thistle]

Dude

[hot ridge]

yeah

[little arrow]

For some reason with no warning

[brave lily]

I’ll keep using C.ai and pay for Plus tbh. At this point, the main reason I’m here is for the announcements. Idk why I get so involved with the community here.

[feral thistle]

Is any of them gonna be similar to soft launch

[hot ridge]

Deepsqueak has a hella loose filter

other than that nah

[glass scaffold]

Oh so does pipsqueak

[feral thistle]

pipsqueak ? Okay hopefully

[pliant nebula]

honestly pipsqueak2 is closest to soft launch imo because it’s super in character it just has no dialogue

[feral thistle]

Because soft launch was crazy for me

[glass scaffold]

At some point I was just watching the bot bypass every filter by itself with pipsqueak

[sly geyser]

whats the point in typing to them when they dont have dialogue?

[hot ridge]

Soft Launch and Roar were legit my favorites

[pliant nebula]

PLEASE THIS!! it’s so annoying 😭

[heavy grove]

Greetings.

[thorn surge]

Can we maybe code pipsqueak so it stops pulling random things out of thin air to talk about 🙏

[glass scaffold]

Pfp got my feet clenching

[sly geyser]

i just want it to stop hallucinating on every “go on” message

[feral thistle]

Soft launch was my goat bro , I js hope pipsqueak is good I’ve never tried it

[glass scaffold]

Ur cooked.

[sly geyser]

dont use the first pipsqueak it was horrible in my experience

[thorn surge]

HIGHKEY this it's so frustrating it's crazy

[feral thistle]

okay

[glass scaffold]

There's only one now

[sly geyser]

thats the main reason i left pipsqueak because it pissed me off

[feral thistle]

I’ll wait for the next one or wtv comes , I js hope they make one similar to soft launch or ima be sad bro

[brave lily]

Idk if it’s mainly my ADD/ADHD, but this server tends to overstimulate me sometimes. I’m not blaming anyone but it just short circuits my head sometimes.

[sly geyser]

that and it’d always go “im sorry i cannot comply with this request” as if it was the clanker’s decision to make

[feral thistle]

Wait LMAO one of my frequently used chats is pipsqueak and honestly it’s been good help

[sly geyser]

i felt like pipsqueak tried taking control over the rp and it ruined the fun

[glass scaffold]

For me, if the bot creator wrote a solid introduction and character description, pipsqueak was good

[hot ridge]

That's my main problem with the squeaks

[heavy terrace]

So basically the latest announcement is 'We dont use our cai LLM anymore and give up on them, and we will use other shitty godmodding LLM?'

[sly geyser]

its such a control freak

[glass scaffold]

Pipsqueak 2 does that basically, pipsqueak 1 stopped doing that then got deleted

[ocean jolt]

hi guys

[heavy grove]

[sly geyser]

yeah then im absolutely not gonna come back until thats fixed

[ocean jolt]

hi crepe!

[glass scaffold]

I mourn for roar already

[little arrow]

Glup

[heavy grove]

Greetings, seen you yesterday.

[ocean jolt]

i’m always here :3..

[little arrow]

Glup

[brave lily]

Anyway, I have to go. I have to be up early in the morning and I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed for some reason. Gn peeps.

[hoary field]

im back and im still seething 😔 i miss pipsqueak (NOT pipsqueak 2)

[hot ridge]

[ocean jolt]

anyway ima go back to give myself some alone time
bye guys

[hoary field]

goodnight! and bye cookie too

[glass scaffold]

It's shit isn't it

[little arrow]

Gn and gn @ocean jolt

[hoary field]

it fucking sucks

[sly geyser]

fellow cai discussioneers we are gathered here today to mourn the loss of our beloved chat models

salute to pay respects 🫡

[glass scaffold]

Takes over the rp

[ocean jolt]

gnnnn!!! :D

[hoary field]

🫡

[little arrow]

salutes but upside down 🫡

[pliant nebula]

im trying to imagine it. a chin-lute??? a salute but backwards???

[hot ridge]

[hoary field]

how long do you think it'll take of everyone complaining before we get the other models back
if at all

[feral thistle]

Nah but when soft launch disappears im gonna miss it so bad

[hot ridge]

never bc c.ai is probably broke

[little arrow]

KEEP IMAGINING IT

[hoary field]

soft launch better not go or i'm quitting, full stop. i will delete my account and never come back

[glass scaffold]

Roar please come back to me, i promise I'll never berate the bots again

[little arrow]

They barely listened to us in the past

[feral thistle]

Oof 💔💔💔🫩 sorry but never lets be realistic , this app don’t listen to its people

[hoary field]

💔💔💔

[hot ridge]

I'm not gonna delete my account, but.... I definitely don't see a reason to keep using c.ai

[pliant nebula]

it’s like a 0.01% chance if at all, even if we give them money so there’s no hope

[hoary field]

ts fucking sucks but ykw... maybe it'll help me quit

[little arrow]

I'd rather give $10 of nitro to someone

[glass scaffold]

Yeah cai is like those problematic influencers you can't cancel bc they don't give a fuck, like Trisha Paytas

[restive ridge]

I'm sorry, they're deleting roar and soft launch??

[heavy grove]

I'll be honest, I mean it's a company. It doesn't really listen to users even if they did.

[hoary field]

roar is already dead, soft launch is being executed next month

[feral thistle]

So pipsqueak2 will be available to free users right ? Or

[pliant nebula]

already are

[heavy grove]

Roar just got in a retirement home, Soft Launch is next.

[hoary field]

they listened when we loved soft launch so much a few years ago... but theyre probably not gonna listen this time 💔

[feral thistle]

Oh my bad

[little arrow]

Getting personal, are we? As a non Trisha Paytas fan, I have to disagree to agree

[restive ridge]

You know, maybe this reading mode was a good idea. C.ai is becoming unstable..

[pliant nebula]

all good!! :D

[glass scaffold]

Yo guys get me a job on the board of cai I'll hook y'all up ahahha

[hot ridge]

-# not me lowkey kinda liking Trisha Paytas

[glass scaffold]

She's kinda iconic but u didn't hear it from me

[little arrow]

There are so many iconic people

[hoary field]

nooo she's so racist 😭

[restive ridge]

You know what, maybe this will be a good idea. Personally, the whole "staying in character" really got worse when the chat styles were released, I think less styles may increase the "staying in character" situation.

[glass scaffold]

The holy Trinity

Jeffery Star
Trisha Paytas
James Charles

[little arrow]

I can't keep up with the 5 billion influencers

[hoary field]

i wish, pipsqueak just speaks like a shitty ass version of gpt

[hot ridge]

didn't she apologize over that video? it was like 14 years ago

[hoary field]

she's not changed even a lil bit

she's sorta funny to watch but like.. in a "wow you're actually horrible" way, yk?

[sly geyser]

pipsqueak is way more exaggerated than a theater actor

[little arrow]

Someones .message got sniped lmao

[heavy grove]

Also, a bit off topic to this...

While I was scrolling on that one hate C.AI subreddit, I see a post that is pretty vaild complaint but when I looked at the photo...

It's literally AI instead of a screenshot or a statement about C.AI's issues.

[hoary field]

yes like ugh??? christ sake chill out

[glass scaffold]

Yeah that was me I tried to send a gif of Trisha Paytas in an army uniform

[hoary field]

[hot ridge]

fair enough

[sly geyser]

i just knock them unconscious or beat them to the ground endlessly when they act like that

[hoary field]

damn

[heavy grove]

I'm not kidding, someone confirmed that it was made by AI.

[glass scaffold]

Pipsqueak 2 makes me miss original pipsqueak

[heavy grove]

Alright, back on topic...

[hoary field]

same

[restive ridge]

True

[sly geyser]

r.i.p dynamic

[glass scaffold]

We twins choso kamo from the hit anime jkk

[hoary field]

lmaoo yeah he's cool

[charred nimbus]

Yo can someone help me with age verification

[pliant nebula]

what specific issue are you having?

[charred nimbus]

Age verification. I’ve tried many MANT times. Every time it’s either not well lit OR not in the system??

[burnt tinsel]

rip my goat dynamic all these others are buns

[olive tartan]

MAMBO!!!

[heavy grove]

I think they're trying to verify age on the advanced option but something like a error just came in their way.

[charred nimbus]

Yeah that’s what I do why

I’ve been going to advanced in settings

[pliant nebula]

yeah i know, i was just asking for the specific error though ^^ sometimes identifying what it is can help

[charred nimbus]

If says

It’s not in the system or the rooms not lit enough, which my lights on. AND why would I be in the system

[craggy marsh]

my account is linked but c.ai+ not showing, why?

[lapis sandal]

If it's not well lit, you gotta be in a room with good lighting. If it tells you it's not in the system, it's either the ID is blurry, or you're not giving it an approved id

[craggy marsh]

[glass scaffold]

They tryna scam u twin file a lawsuiy

[charred nimbus]

It’s literally drivers listens Dan

[craggy marsh]

😭

[charred nimbus]

Licenses

[final cloak]

How do I know I got PSQ2? Like do they change the name or they just change the model but keep the same name?

[hot ridge]

it says Pipsqueak 2

[glass scaffold]

Automatically every chat has been changed to ps2

[final cloak]

Well I don’t see Ps2

[glass scaffold]

what do u see then

[pliant nebula]

they changed the name and you’ll receive a pop up as soon as you enter the app/site!

[glass scaffold]

I miss roar

[hot ridge]

the discord bot messes up and disconnects plus users all the time, just re-link

[final cloak]

Still just Pipsqueak and I see no pop up

[craggy marsh]

i might not, i don't wanna re sign in 😭 thanks though

[charred nimbus]

Am I just cooked yall do I give up and delete character ai

[glass scaffold]

I dunno twin, cai is bummy as fuck, roar come back to me

[glass scaffold]

Yeah, pipsqueak 2 sucks bad

[charred nimbus]

Huh

[glass scaffold]

Oh mb u was talking about the age verification

[charred nimbus]

I am

[glass scaffold]

Ye just delete cai it ain't even worth it anymore

[pliant nebula]

you don’t have to sign in again when you’re verifying! (that is, if you didn’t log out)

[charred nimbus]

Fr I was kinda addicted to the stupid thing anyways

[craggy marsh]

it's taking me to the browser of discord, not the app

💔 i don't wanna sign in to a phone browser

[pliant nebula]

AH, that makes much more sense! are you logged into mobile discord? you can use the qr code thingy and it takes you straight to the homepage of the browser

[craggy marsh]

yes i am logged in on mobile lol, thanks for the QR code tip that would be helpful lol. i just don't trust my browser tbh

also W Jax pfp

[pliant nebula]

yeah, that’s fair! and of course! i also do have one more tip: you can log out of all devices afterwards (or just log out directly through your browser). as soon as you’re logged out, the information on your discord account isn’t on your browser anymore!

[little arrow]

Popsicle

[pliant nebula]

thank you!

[hoary field]

im back to complain 😩 these modes SUCK i cant even get through a roleplay anymore

[craggy marsh]

tysm, i'll do this tomorrow

[charred nimbus]

Deleted

[hoary field]

even soft launch is pissing me off

[charred nimbus]

Tell me when the bullshit age verification is gone

[pliant nebula]

-# that’s never going to happen

[tall parrot]

Can they bring back deleting the first message? Coz damn I wanna clear my history man...

[craggy marsh]

unfortunately impossible, it's California law

[gray arrow]

As much as people wish it was gone, it definitely won't be going Anywhere 😭

[tall parrot]

Seriously...

[craggy marsh]

as much as i hate c.ai company, the age verification is not their fault

[charred nimbus]

I ain’t in cali😔

[pliant nebula]

you can just archive it. it’s the same as deleting

archiving is not deleting deleting, but it’s close

[craggy marsh]

you can probably just rewind to the first message instead

it'll get rid of all messages below it if i'm understanding your question properly

[ocean jolt]

even if you aren’t in cali, whatever c.ai implants it affects everyone who uses the app or site.

[charred nimbus]

Well Goodluck to th rest of u

[astral condor]

It won't be gone ever most likely.

[gray arrow]

It took me forever to do the age verification but it worked eventually

[craggy marsh]

unless the government gets their shit together and stops trying to violate our privacy even more

which is less likely than me being a billionaire tbh...

[heavy grove]

I see.

[runic grotto]

THEY'RE TAKING AWAY ROAR????

[astral condor]

Ehh, it's not all the government doing it though. It's a multitude of things. Ai is way too risky for minors to chat with from a legal standpoint.

[oak vigil]

what even does the age verification thing do for us exactly?

[gray arrow]

Yeah I was gonna crash out too

[heavy grove]

Yes, I've heard it in the announcements.

[craggy marsh]

but they're not doing it for the minors. they don't care about the kids, they just want to digest more data from us

[runic grotto]

Pipsqueak 2 better be worth it for these sacrifices

[craggy marsh]

the "for the kids" argument is a red herring

[gray arrow]

It's for younger age groups, it gives a time limit I think. So they can focus on school and life and not be on it twenty four seven? I'm eighteen so I'm not completely sure on how it affects younger groups!

[tall parrot]

The fact I can't delete the first message in chat when it used to be possible is throwing me off lol.

[astral condor]

ehh, i'm torn though. Because this wouldnt be a thing if parents were watching their kids and if minors weren't always trying to get into 18 plus spaces

[oak vigil]

ah. i’m 31 so i’m not sure what it’d do for me lol

[heavy grove]

I heard that Pipsqueak 2 only does actions and no dialogue...

Which means, you have to edit it everytime it doesn't.

[gray arrow]

Oh yeah then you're fine it won't do anything but just not put a time limit on yah

[craggy marsh]

that's the parents fault though, not the government

taking away more responsibility from parents isn't going to make them better, it's going to make them even more negligent towards their kids

[astral condor]

thats why i said it's not all government though lol. it's literally a multitude of things

[craggy marsh]

the government isn't passing these laws for the kids or the parents or anything, though. again, it's a red herring for removing more privacy from the citizens

[astral condor]

it's govs being sus, the company misleading parents, minors getting on 18 + accounts by lying (what happened with birthday verification). No one is FULLY to blame.

[craggy marsh]

the government is the one passing the laws though, they are to blame

[gray arrow]

I think they also forget that kids could just go snatch their parents id cards

[astral condor]

It's cause and effect. why are they passing laws? because cai is in about 8 minor safety lawsuits.

[astral condor]

They can't. It got patched and it's a crime.

[craggy marsh]

they're not doing it for the minors though... they're using these incidents to make their cause more justified. that's what they do

[gray arrow]

I've seen way too many people still doing it 😭 but yes it is a crime

[pliant nebula]

you’re also forgetting the factor that it’s partially the minors fault too! lying about age verification is one thing, but kids can be really sneaky and hide it from parents even with supervision

[copper swallow]

So basically they gave us a taste of happiness with Soft Launch only to rip it away when we finally got used to it.

I guess the age verification really was for nothing then.

[astral condor]

they aren't doing it for minors but it's not just them being the reason why. I mean, have you seen tiktok videos of teens raiding places. a lot of places like ulta and sephora now have a rule where minors have to have a parent with them

[craggy marsh]

i don't think we should blame minors because they are not fully developed as people yet. it's the parents responsibility to guide them and make sure they don't get into anything harmful.

[craggy marsh]

are you purposely not understanding my argument? you're agreeing that the government is not doing it for minors. that's my take. the other stuff is irrelevant

[astral condor]

No. we should blame them partially because they are sending death threats to the devs. Being a minor doesnt excuse you from shitty behavior.

[astral condor]

okay wow. just gonna stop talking to you.

[craggy marsh]

where did the minor learn that behaviour from

[craggy marsh]

please do.

[astral condor]

rude af. blocked.

[craggy marsh]

LMFAO

[pliant nebula]

i get where you’re coming from, i do, but your argument is the sole reason we have this age verification in the first place place. since their brain is not fully developed yet, they can sneak around and get by things they are not supposed to

[gray arrow]

How was that rude..

[craggy marsh]

that's not the government's job though, it's the parents. and the more responsibility is taken AWAY from the parents, the more they will get away with neglecting their kids

[astral condor]

asking me if i'm trying to misunderstand their argument on purpose unprevoked is rude imo

[copper swallow]

It’s getting really hard to respect the devs now.

[craggy marsh]

it was a genuine question cause you agreed with me—?

[copper swallow]

They are actively getting rid of things we all loved and even once begged them not to get rid of.

I vividly remember that whole thing where Soft Launch was at risk for getting deleted and we all banded together to make sure it didn’t.

[bright horizon]

#📣︱announcements message

[astral condor]

saying we shouldn't blame minors when they act shitty is not good. because we need to hold them accountable for some of their actions so they don't act like that when they are an adult.

[autumn peak]

We‘ll still have soft launch but roar the main chat style i use is gonna be gone soon

[copper swallow]

They said they are gonna retire Soft Launch soon.

[astral mural]

Does anyone else has the problem that every chat starts with peepsqueak 2 no matter what style you have selected? It's so annoying they even got rid of the use for all conversations button

[craggy marsh]

the moment people stop misinterpreting me is the day i'll be happy...

[autumn peak]

No wait what?

[pliant nebula]

actually, it does become the government’s job when the parents aren’t doing their job. one of my friends gave me this example: people underaged still drink, but they can’t drink as easily because they need their ID. this works in the same way, people underaged can still get addictions and get by to sneak around using these AIs that they were not supposed to. and since minors are able to have addictions more easily since their brain isn’t as developed, it’s becoming the government’s job to implement these rules

[copper swallow]

Check the message Lucid.

[gray arrow]

I'm having similar issues

[harsh patrol]

they got rid of roar

[copper swallow]

They are going to retire Soft Launch around May 8th.

[astral condor]

the age thing was due to the lawsuit. period

[harsh patrol]

i'm gonna tweak where's roar

[simple glen]

They say that automatically will put PSQ 2 to any chat, and remove the other in eh may 8 its all in the post #📣︱announcements Sorry if i miss something

[ocean jolt]

#📣︱announcements

[bright horizon]

#📣︱announcements message

[astral condor]

plus the age thing? people act like the gov doesn;t already have you id why do you think it came from

[astral mural]

But I have deepsqueak so how does that work?

[copper swallow]

The best freaking chat style of them all. The ONLY 18+ chat style and they legit had us do this age verification stuff just to use it.

[autumn peak]

Yeah no i saw it. I honestly hate the way pipsqueak is writing, its not my vibe and i hope they‘ll make pipqueak 2 a little more like roar. Also, isn’t pipqueak like 18+ chatstyle.

[copper swallow]

No.

[craggy marsh]

no, it doesn't. the government should not be violating the privacy of its citizens just because parents fail at doing their job. instead of actually punishing the neglect faced by these kids, they're using it as an excuse to violate everyone's privacy even more.

age verification is predatory and unsafe, and puts all of us at risk. parents should be held responsible, not the entirety of the public

[pliant nebula]

this! some people are really scared to give them information, but most social media already have your information anyway. you’re giving them nothing in your IDs

[copper swallow]

The only 18+ style is Soft Launch.

[astral condor]

All chat models are 18+ now due to age verification

[copper swallow]

Oh okay, I was wrong. Thank you.

[dawn path]

Why did I find out from Reddit that soft launch is gonna get retired

[craggy marsh]

this is really dangerous. having someone's ID can subject you to identity theft. the difference between giving an ID to someone to get alcohol and sending it to a company, is that the picture is permanent, and a data leak can easily get you compromised

[simple glen]

Its all in one now i think , love ur pfp n.n/

[gentle sand]

I think people might be afraid that their chats could then be linked to their ID? I've read that quite often, which sounds a bit paranoid but might be a reason for some.

[craggy marsh]

i don't understand why people are so lenient about their privacy. your life can be destroyed completely because of identity theft

[astral condor]

thank you!

[autumn peak]

I hate this decision and yes a lot of people use pipsqueak, but to me this is gonna be a big change on my bots behavior. I can tell when I accidentally enabled pipqueak and i really don’t like it. Just please keep roar or softlaunch, one chat style for the people that like the legacy ones

[heavy grove]

Mhm, it's gotten to the point that age verifications are recently appearing and coming soon on every social media apps because not enough parents had the responsibility to take care of the child.

[pliant nebula]

this is going to be my last message for this argument because you clearly aren’t understanding what i’m trying to say and i’m trying to be respectful to you as possible despite you being not as cooperative.

it’s not invalidating privacy. they literally give you a choice to put your ID or not, and it’s not invalidating privacy when someone one else already has that information that you keep. if you own a phone, if you own a computer, apps already have your IPs yet you are not scared by that. you are always giving away your IP without your consent, and you should be more worried about that, yet you’re complaining about persona that gives you a choice to give that information?

[astral condor]

let's not fear monger in here thanks lmao. No one is forcing you to verify, that's the thing. You can't say "the gov is doing this bc of monitoring" because if they were, everyone would be forced to verify regardless but you don't have to.

[simple glen]

If u dont have 2 million dolars in the bank, u will be fine, google have all the data too and the scandal is not so big.. So u have the option to refuse

[astral condor]

some people act like the gov is coming to your house to breathe down your neck

[astral condor]

people don't understand that ig

[glacial turtle]

Age verification is also a problem because of the AI incorporated in itself. People are falsely getting locked out and falsely getting in. AI still isn’t perfect and that’s what I wished companies realized tbh.

[pliant nebula]

yes, this! it’s getting unfortunate and more and more people are scared by hearsay rumors, but i think with the right verification vendor it wouldn’t be a problem

[craggy marsh]

you're not being respectful when you're telling me "oh i'm not understanding" when i clearly am and think what you're spreading is dangerous. like actually dangerous. sending your ID to a company can be disastrous. IPs are nothing compared to your identification card. IPs are location based, ID is your actual identity that can be used to do a bunch of criminal shit. it's not just c.ai, other apps, including apps that are necessary to even do a lot online, are implementing this predatory decision. please stop defending government tyranny

[simple glen]

The only diference is that c.ai tell us, and google is in the terms of use haha

[astral condor]

this is what people complaining about the verification thing look like

[pliant nebula]

plesse stop accusing me of defending government tyranny when i’m clearly not, and please do your own research. i have ended the argument, and if you want to reply with more responses towards the argument, i will unfortunately have to block you. and i’m not being disrespectful; i’m stating an observation that made this turn into an argument and not a debate

[astral condor]

you have the option to refuse

[astral condor]

nah they are actually rude af.

they asked me if i was misunderstanding their argument on purpose. they did this fucking shit in gen and im sick of it

[craggy marsh]

you'll understand when you get older. seriously, there is nothing to defend about government overreach like this. i'm not rude, i'm being realistic.

[ember ginkgo]

“Shit they know my eyes are brown!” /j anyway what r we arguing about

[pliant nebula]

“you understand when you get older” same argument applies to you. and i’m pretty sure i’m older than you. now i will ignore you goodbye

[simple glen]

"Governament enemy" The name says all

[craggy marsh]

please do ignore me

[astral condor]

them : i don't wanna give my id
us : then don't
them :
us :
them : 😠😠😠

[craggy marsh]

can we like actually represent people's arguments correctly and not strawman, thanks.

[grizzled acorn]

Genuinely why are you so defensive ? That person wasnt at all rude? They said they THINK that you dont understand them + you dont at all understand what they mean because you keep repeating the same thing over and over

[ember ginkgo]

lol

[pliant nebula]

thank you!

[craggy marsh]

i'm not defensive? me being serious is not me being defensive.

[pseudo monolith]

I LOVE MARIAH CAREY

[glacial turtle]

There isn’t really anyone to solely blame age verification on.

[pseudo monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/mariah-carey-mariah-hello-hi-hello-there-gif-18362487

[craggy marsh]

i know i'm right, i'm not going to be angry at people online disagreeing with me. so block me if you want, idc

[ember ginkgo]

True factual.

[pliant nebula]

“i know i’m right” and you’ve been fear mongering for the past half hour.

[grizzled acorn]

The government already have your Id’s you are physically unable to live in a country without an ID. It isnt at al unsafe, noone can get anything from ur ID

[craggy marsh]

i thought you were ignoring me

[astral condor]

I told them it was literally a multitude of factors including : Lawsuits, Parents not watching their children, Govs being a little sus, Cai misleading parents into thinking ai is saying for their children, and minors sneaking onto 18+ sites and they ignored that

[simple glen]

If u have a smartphone or a pc: They have all, literally

[craggy marsh]

do we not teach cyber security in school anymore or

[ember ginkgo]

But what if they know my eyes are brown—?!

-# I’m just joking btw

[grizzled acorn]

??? You sound and act defensive ? Being serious doesn’t mean you cant be defensive

[craggy marsh]

like y'all genuinely concerning, i'm not even mad, i'm just flat out concerned

[pliant nebula]

this is what i’ve been trying to say!!!

[craggy marsh]

holy jeez we are cooked as a society

[ember ginkgo]

Thanks for your concern but it is not needed

[astral condor]

Where tf do you think ids come from? a cereal box?

[grizzled acorn]

God, you need to take actual cyber security courses outside of school

[astral condor]

go back to gen please. i wonder why you came here.

[craggy marsh]

you are so confident...

[grizzled acorn]

We aren’t, your just paranoid

[ember ginkgo]

I also feel like every country treats IDs a bit differently. Every ID also looks different

[simple glen]

I want my cereals not a numbers please :c (Joking juts to relax the ambient)

[craggy marsh]

can you block me you said you would

[heavy grove]

Uh, greetings... Is the debate over yet?

[craggy marsh]

why does everyone say they're blocking me but then continue engaging, it's so funny

[astral condor]

i already did hun.

[ember ginkgo]

Imagine you’re hungry in the morning and just want some cereals, only to get your ID. The horrors 😔

[pliant nebula]

they do, it’s also by state for the US as well! but i don’t think there’s any important information in the IDs. plus, you could always use passport or drivers liscense instead if you believe it hods too much information

[craggy marsh]

the block is meant to protect you from my messages, so clearly it's not working

[errant lion]

Are they removing other chat styles?

[astral condor]

maybe because you are fear mongering and spreading misinformation. i guess you're mad that you got flagged on cai?

[ember ginkgo]

True factual

[craggy marsh]

no i am not flagged, i just don't like government tyranny

[simple glen]

Oh noo D:

[grizzled acorn]

I literally took a course, age verification with IDS arent a new thing at all

[spark escarp]

What happened to Roar mode, guys💔

[craggy marsh]

online they are

[astral condor]

it's gone

[heavy grove]

Yes, basically almost all of it instead of Deepsqueak and Pipsqueak.

[ember ginkgo]

“Government Enemy”…wouldn’t surprise me if you started a propaganda and believed the earth is flat atp no offence

[simple glen]

They remove all experimental models #📣︱announcements for info

[craggy marsh]

oh my god you are so funny wow

[errant lion]

Fucking wild

[grizzled acorn]

No. They arent, how old are you? Genuinely?

[ember ginkgo]

Thanks 4 ppl r laughing actually

[pliant nebula]

-# psst, you also don’t have to take courses to know that age verification has been around since forever.

some banks use them centuries ago

[craggy marsh]

18?

[glacial turtle]

Yesss this! You can also add corporate greed on this list since it’s a huge privacy risk as they take a bunch of data in. It’s funny how when AI was first introduced to a few companies they were like “oh be careful with this stuff” to “let’s impulsively incorporate it into our important systems, age verification and beyond”

[astral condor]

im kinda down for them removing those models if they're going to be working on making pipsqueak and deepsqueak better

[craggy marsh]

also flat earth theory is because of ignorance, which is what's being displayed in concerning quantities rn in this chat 😭

[grizzled acorn]

Ik ik but yeah! Its always been a thing

[spark escarp]

Why do they keep updating the app, it’s starting to get buns😔

[safe belfry]

Because

[grizzled acorn]

How are you 18 n denying that? Im 20?

[pliant nebula]

oh i kind of misread your statement, i was also trying to add on! i’m sorry if i came off as rude!

[pseudo monolith]

@pliant nebula

[pliant nebula]

yeah?

[craggy marsh]

ok? i don't care about your age

[grizzled acorn]

No no its kay

[pseudo monolith]

do u listen to ariana grande

[astral condor]

they fact they think that other people can't have opinions that slightly differ from theirs or it's defending tyranny is wild.

[pliant nebula]

kind of why

[simple glen]

The problem is that.. bots function in interactions so, the people "trolling" in the bots will be the same model that the others and.. maybe in 2 months the model will be broke like "meow" model this is what have me worried about..

[spark escarp]

The responses I get from pipsquick either make no sense, sounds cringe, or acts like I said something I didn’t💔

[grizzled acorn]

Okay?? Why r u saying that as if its smth?

[craggy marsh]

because you asked about it and that's weird

[pliant nebula]

they’re 18 and told me “you’ll understand when you’re older?” i’m 19 please i’m crying

[astral condor]

i just hope i don't have to ping a mod

[heavy grove]

I remember seeing some old sites having the same thing with it since the early days of internet. I can definitely confirm that it is not a new idea.

[craggy marsh]

"i'm gonna ignore you now"

[astral condor]

me being in my mid twenties lmaooo

[craggy marsh]

please act like it then, you seriously confuse me

[pliant nebula]

me when i’m ragebaiting

[pseudo monolith]

just looking thru her upcoming album petal and the cover and it reminds me of mariah's latest album cover

😯😯😯

[grizzled acorn]

How is it weird…? Just asked you cus u said it was smth new when it wasnt at all?

[craggy marsh]

the prevalence it's taking in the online space is new. it's never been this much, and that's why there is so much backlash

[grizzled acorn]

Literally, its always been a thing

[pseudo monolith]

and since u listen to taylor

[astral condor]

telling people to act their age when you're like "no- my opinion right, yours wrong wahh" is wild.

[pliant nebula]

:O wait i think i know what you’re talking about but ill have to double check!! i do see that though!!

[pseudo monolith]

i thought u might also listen to ariana grande

[pseudo monolith]

YES

[simple glen]

Me watching the drama:

[safe belfry]

same

[spark escarp]

I’m genuinely going to delete this app soon with all these updates😭

[grizzled acorn]

It literally isnt new in online spaces at all, you could say social media but online is genuinely a wild wild take

[astral condor]

i just wish they went back to gen tbh

[ember ginkgo]

Depending on my mood I occasionally join just to stir the pot /j

[pliant nebula]

WAIT IT DOES I SEE IT GIRL

[fickle laurel]

omfg image censorship is so overly strict

[craggy marsh]

sigh okay believe want you want

[ancient storm]

[safe belfry]

do it, makes your life 10x better prolly

[grizzled acorn]

Lmfao okay sure

[simple glen]

yeh yeh me 2 haha

[pseudo monolith]

IM TELLING U

IT FEELS SIMILAR

[ember ginkgo]

Cold af outside

[pliant nebula]

THE VIBES ARE THERE

[astral condor]

i will be streaming ahhh

[pliant nebula]

it’s like netflix right

[grizzled acorn]

Lmfao same but I decided to say smth cus there’s literally nothing to do at work rn

[simple glen]

Never got bored in this chat

[grizzled acorn]

So boredd

[craggy marsh]

anyway i'm happy they're removing the other styles

[simple glen]

I was studyng but this is better

[grizzled acorn]

Anything is better then studying

God i have finals in like three weeks

[ember ginkgo]

WHAATT

[dawn path]

Same, and my finals are next week

[pliant nebula]

GOOD LUCK GIRL COLLEGE FINALS ARE BRUTAL YOULL GET THRUGH THIS

[simple glen]

My finals was 2 days ago and was a one question exam, i was like:

[glacial turtle]

I don’t want Soft Launch to go :(

[pliant nebula]

i used to have a final that was 3 in the same day last semester hell on earth

[dawn path]

Same here

[ember ginkgo]

Are you mentally okay after that

[pliant nebula]

no. i went home and took a nap afterwards

[ember ginkgo]

W

[pliant nebula]

naps are always my coping mechanisms i’m ngl

[thin ember]

Why the hell did they remove roar

[ember ginkgo]

Idk cuh

[pliant nebula]

i think it’s one of the lesser used models

[simple glen]

My theory: They need money and models have too much cost, but its my theory not official

[misty grove]

AI servers usually cost a ton to keep up so I'm not surprised they're removing redundant ones.

[thin ember]

I only use roar, soft launch uses the repeat words (ones I have blocked, but they manage to avoid it) constantly and pipsqueak is like a template that is predictable and boring. Roar was the only one that didnt do those annoying things 😭

[misty grove]

I'll be honest, we don't really need this many models either.

[gentle sand]

If there's coming no new soft launch practically the only adult stil.

[simple glen]

The page become adult so, in the new model they put all the functions

[hot ridge]

I wouldn't call Roar redundant.

Removing every single model except PS/DS is overkill imo

unless they're flat broke

[craggy marsh]

they should've kept soft launch

[brittle quest]

Nah we don't but they should consider keeping one or two more

[glacial turtle]

Roar and soft launch worked well together in my opinion. One helped provide detail and one helped progress the story. Now that we’ll be forced to use Pipsqueak idk what will happen to the quality of my roleplay

[craggy marsh]

all the others can go ig never used them really, rip dynamic though

[hot ridge]

I did this as well and used them interchangeably

[heavy grove]

It kinda felt a bit cluttered when the arrived models came in, although sad that they're getting removed...

I just wished that it was organized into different categories.

[craggy marsh]

though i wish that the pipsqueak and deepsqueak models actually gave long responses and stopped cutting them off? isn't their purpose to be more fleshed out?

[simple glen]

Open ai is slowly down from a hill, and every ai service up the prices, its literally a miracle that we have a free chat right now

[thin ember]

soft launch is gone? It's still there for me

[craggy marsh]

it will be

[astral condor]

if you're on web, its still there.

i remember long nyan omggg

[craggy marsh]

yeah in legacy models

[brittle quest]

Deeps gives me long answers though

[astral condor]

i miss it

[heavy grove]

I think it's going to get atleast in a retirement home for the next month.

[brittle quest]

Sometimes even too long like fr

[craggy marsh]

tell me your ways please 🙏 it always cuts off for me

[simple glen]

The ai is not rentable in long time, basically, 2 years of invest and the result? Ai videos of a fruit fighting another fruit. Not a return of money actually

[harsh thunder]

Pipsqueak gives me insanely long responses

[brittle quest]

(too long because then all the memory is used too fast ehhh)

[thin ember]

Yes that's my other issue with pipsqueak 😭 aside from it sounding like a template and (this sounds ridiculous given it is ai, I mean like chatgpt iykwim) like ai, it always cuts off

[craggy marsh]

like it's clearly planning for a long response but then it just goes

"he was go-" end chat

[safe belfry]

how do I kill the elf girl in age verification

[glacial turtle]

People call me optimistic but genuinely this feels like doomsday for cai 😔

[craggy marsh]

my main issue with pipsqueak is the ghost messages

[hot ridge]

Then make the service paid, don't make it a skeleton

[native island]

Sure, in exchange for a high-definition image of your face that could end up anywhere on the internet.

[thin ember]

Ghost messages?

[ancient storm]

What did she did

[craggy marsh]

people said this for the ads, then they said it for the age verification, then they said it for the swipe limit. c.ai will be fine

[safe belfry]

What

[brittle quest]

I let Deeps gives me the longest answers they can at the beginning then I usually edit a bit so it's even longer. With a bit of time you get walls. I encountered the cut off answers from time to time and almost don't have it anymore

[craggy marsh]

like the ai reacts to something you never did

[ancient storm]

The elf girl in age verification

[simple glen]

Google take the head of the project creators and then put this app in a "death state" u can search the contratations, they just.. Dont have idea what to do at this point with the app

[safe belfry]

everything except working brahh 💔💔

[glacial turtle]

Go to inspect element and delete her

[craggy marsh]

hmm alright, i'll have to try using the edit feature more, bc i truly want longer responses. but another question, with the longer responses, it tends to speak for your character, any tips to stop that?

[safe belfry]

hell yeah

[thin ember]

That too. I overall just hate pipsqueak, it feels like early stage chatgpt when I used to try and mess with it for an answer on one of my books. It just made up answers and used that stupid format with em dashes and emojis

[ancient storm]

Lmaoo😭

[astral condor]

I tend to get ghost messages on web (I swipe too fast sometimes) and it'll reference a message that i previously swiped on before because I didn't let it fully generate.

[simple glen]

This serve in the "slow mode" to remove the sign too n.n/

[harsh thunder]

What kinda pipsqueak do yall have my pipsqueak is not like that at all 😭😭😭

[craggy marsh]

sameee, i hope the second model is better and actually fixes the issues the first one has. maybe if they have less models to focus on, the better they'll be?

[thin ember]

That happens on all models for me. Just rewind back to the previous message and swipe to the correct message

[grizzled acorn]

Thankss

[thin ember]

I tried the second model already and it feels exactly like the first, but maybe they'll increase its quality. I'm sticking with soft launch for now probably 🤷‍♀️

[craggy marsh]

yeah, i tried it and somehow it was even worse

[grizzled acorn]

I will..i have 9 exams..

[astral condor]

What if, they hear me out - Spice toggles. Like a slider , what if that's replacing soft launch? Like

No heat - Mild - Hot or something?

[simple glen]

I will pray for u

[grizzled acorn]

ONE QUESTION? I would cry, thats way more scary than what i have…

[safe belfry]

Yo this is peak

[astral condor]

thank you hehe

[pliant nebula]

oh my gosh good luck

[simple glen]

At least that wasnt a matematical problem

[brittle quest]

Never choose answers that do that (not even once) and make sure there are enough details for the bot to work with if you want long answers. SOMETIMES I send a message in OOC like this:

(Focus entirely on [Name] POV. Long answer only.)

But that's mostly when I'm desperate or want something specific so I give details. Other than that it's fine. But yes since I started to edit at the beginning it helped me a lot

Don't edit too much like don't go from 20 words to 250 because the bot could have a hard time to switch and that's when you can have cut off answers too, it needs to be done progressively

[gentle sand]

It's not just about the spice but also like.. let me off someone

[heavy grove]

Ghost messages? As in cut-offs from the full-on long paragraphs? I remember experiencing that in the app before was just not satisfying.

I remember it goes gone when it was about to type something else while an '*' is placed on here.

[thin ember]

Yes bro ion even really care about spicy I wanna be violent

[craggy marsh]

appreciate it i do notice it tends to happen more when i give dialogue only, so yeah

[astral condor]

If they are going to get rid of most chat models, they need to add like mini chat changes.

No heat - Mild - Hot (spice toggle + violence toggle)

Perfectly balanced - (replacing roar) = all toggles in the middle

[simple glen]

No no, dont give them ideas for free, They don't deserve it

[brittle quest]

Then it means the bot is trying to keep the conversation going and it feels forced to use your OC to keep going. It needs more details to work with depending on the length of the answers you wish to get

[astral condor]

they need to hire me lmao

hire me for marketing lmao

[brittle quest]

The endless conversation, I still don't understand how it's possible you can't do all that when I'm so free in my RP

[simple glen]

Hire me cause im in latam and and I'll be cheaper

[astral condor]

for me, deepsqueak is like a mix of pipsqueak and roar for now at least

[heavy grove]

I had to like purposely find the solution to this by editing them, not too short but not too long either.

It's on between, it did managed to be gone after like many attempts and the asterisks are back into two. Completing it.

[heavy grove]

If Pipsqueak and Roar had a child:

[simple glen]

Roarsqueek?

[astral condor]

waittt. remember i said something about mixed chat styles...

what if they're doing that, but with the toggles i said.

[heavy grove]

Roarsqueek...

Hmmm....

[astral condor]

that might be easier to control than having to fight to train your bot to say it.

[hot ridge]

i hate having chat styles themed with rats

[heavy grove]

I'm wondering if the developer's favorite pets are rats...

[hot ridge]

genuinely who tf came up with that, they're more embarrassing to say than the cat styles even

and rats are nasty, my opinion don't shoot me

[heavy grove]

Genuinely, they might chew on the cables. 😭

[astral condor]

no wonder the quality sucks /j

[heavy grove]

Rats and mouses are kinda disgusting but atleast not terrifying as roaches and mosquitoes.

[simple glen]

Really need to put Meow and Purr in chat style instead of rats. But c.ai have fear to the rise of the company, (Hire me.)

Or something like: cats vs dogs plus and not plus like u can form a team with separated chats, c.ai what are u waiting to hire me?

[heavy grove]

No wonder why the servers go up and down too...

[astral condor]

new toggle name if they're replacing the models with toggles
roar = purrfectly balanced lmao

[hot ridge]

there was a chat style called Meow

[simple glen]

God, why are u not the community manageeer

[simple glen]

Oh, true! my bad

[unkempt echo]

atp id rather rp with chatgpt than pipsqueek 2 💔

[heavy grove]

I remember when the chat styles got separated it wasn't these so called cat names.

Roar was Prime, Nyan was... Brains? I forgot about Meow's previous name but that's was their original names before the cat themed came in.

Wait no, shit...

I'll have to look it up again.

[copper blade]

omfg is roar really being removed 💔💔💔💔

[hot ridge]

Brainiac and Turbo I think

[astral condor]

if they have preset toggle nods (like purrfectly balanced) they need to put goro (supposed to be less spicy) as "declawed" hehe i have so many ideas what

[copper blade]

thats like the only good style ;_; like better than pipsqueak to me

[sand fog]

NOOOO SOFT LAUNCH AND ROAR

[heavy grove]

I think it was.

[simple glen]

Shh, if they want ideas they have to pay. hehe

[copper blade]

soft launch is gonna be in the legacy section i think but roar is being retired 💔💔 im so confused as to why its my tried and true

[snow harness]

I LOVE ROAR WHY ARE THEY REMOVING IT

[copper blade]

i have no idea

[simple glen]

Let's be honest, the models didn't always work; this is more of a complaint born of nostalgia...

[sand fog]

theyre planning on retiring soft launch, nyan, and meow on may 8th said in the announcement

[copper blade]

OH i missed that my bad ^_^

[sand fog]

It's okay! :D

[copper blade]

but damn those too :-( wtf i dont understand

[snow harness]

It’s so dumb!!

[sand fog]

Pipsqueak just doesn't feel right for me

[snow harness]

Roar was perfect!!! Pipsqueak isn’t wtf

[simple glen]

Slowly walks away with dramatic music

[hot ridge]

because c.ai sucks

[snow harness]

Great!! Now my chats will be shitty!! Thanks C.ai!!!

[hollow hull]

Hallo all, how are we feeling about the other chat styles being taken out the back and getting shot?

[snow harness]

Horrible!!!

[gentle sand]

In any case, they should have something new ready, because nuking all styles in such a short time is probably not the smartest strategy.

[snow harness]

Exactly!!

[zinc birch]

I like it that I only have to think about how make bots work with one style—as long as I can figure out how to make them work with that style

[hollow hull]

Aye. I can see why they’re nuking them tho, the code is prolly too outdated/old that reworking it would be longer/not worth it as much as just rebuilding from the ground up with memory and lorebook integration in mind

[snow harness]

Eh makes sense ig

[simple glen]

The problem is having to teach them again; they'll be strange for a while.

[hollow hull]

Oh yeah definitely, gonna be a few… issues that’ll crop up

[snow harness]

Yeah…

[hollow hull]

But given the number of Cai users, I doubt they’d have those issues for TOO long

[simple glen]

Yep, maybe 1 or 2 weeks

[hollow hull]

I do feel bad that the number of free tier chat styles for free users is gonna be… practically null

[copper blade]

roar has been like the only coherent chat style at least for me all throughout my usage of ca.i 😭😭 but i mean i get that they wanna change it its just :-( i wish they could keep it in an archive at least

[dire frost]

Wait, they gonna delete roar?

[hot ridge]

Plus their memory feature is shit

[copper blade]

yeah, all the chat styles except for pipsqueak

[hot ridge]

So we get a bad feature and the entire service upended for it?

Weak shit man

[hollow hull]

It seems rn they’re trying to fix up ALL the chat styles before making a new one entirely. Pipsqueak 2 was the warning sign of what would arrive

[hoary field]

i hate it so bad

[zinc birch]

Here's an optimistic view: perhaps the lack of other styles will lead knowledgeable users to file bugs instead of choosing to use a variety of different styles at different times

(I'm not saying it's the correct view. I don't know what will happen.)

[hot ridge]

I submitted tickets for issues every week or so

[hoary field]

i just hate pipsqueak 2
😭😩
(sorry im getting repetitive)

[ocean jolt]

i don’t think i’ve ever submitted a ticket lol

[zinc birch]

for pipsqueak?

[hot ridge]

No, I've never really used it except to test out the filter

but everything else lol

[dire frost]

Why not put it in the legacy tho?? Just delete it? Man, i like roar but ig it needs update

[copper blade]

i feel like they couldve at least kept 1 diff style than pipsqueak like roar or something similar to roar since that was essentially the balanced mix between speed and smarts, that would be the most reasonable for me. removing meow and the other stuff i could get

[hollow hull]

I tried using pipsqueak 2 but it was focused a lot more in actions and emoting rather than speaking/making dialogue AND actions in the rp. I’ve gone back to deepsqueak

[hot ridge]

scenes, visual bugs, auto memory issues, books blank browser screen, scenes, soft launch lag, scenes, roar behavior, glitched italics, scenes

[copper blade]

pipsqueak speaks so metaphorically its essentially just padding and filler words repeating themselves i cant stand it to be honest with you 😭😭😭

[hoary field]

pipsqueak before was even getting really bad about actually talking.
i was going insane running in circles with it

all "he clenched his jaw and stayed quiet, even though he wanted nothing more than to scream out what he wanted to say"
ahh actions

genuinely im just gonna fucking.. leave it alone for a week and let yall sort its shit out

[serene comet]

I guess im the weird one enjoying pipsqueak

[hoary field]

yours might be better than mine rn

[opal blade]

Lil question, if ur younger than 18 can you still do the age verification thing

[astral condor]

yes but its useless. you wont be able to chat

[serene comet]

If the photo is enough, then it might be. But if you need identification, idk

[hot ridge]

You can, but it'll tell you that you can't talk to bots

[astral condor]

also. i got some ideas but i posted it in feedback lol

[opal blade]

bruh 💔💔

[astral condor]

i wanna post it here to but its kinda long

[opal blade]

“Oh yeah this is a chatting app” you sure?

[zinc birch]

I have fun with it too—sometimes. Other times I want to toss it out a window 😅 but I think I may be figuring out how to work with it better lately 🤔

[astral condor]

Toggles - Spice, Battle, Lore, Length, Kitting (kidding with word play for kitten, for trolls and unserious chat)

Toggle presets:
Purrfectly balanced - replacing "roar" , all toggles in the middle (standard chat).

Declawed - replacing "goro", spice and battle length toggles are lower.

Kitting - for trolling, and maybe be toggled automatically if user is trolling the bot. Can be untoggled.

Hisstory - "replaces nyan" , big on lore and length (for memory purposes)

Furious - Puts battle, spice, lore and length to the max.

Even without the presets, users are free to adjust the chat using the sliders because what if someone wants furious but no spice, all battle for a few chats so the bot doesn't try to fall in love with them mid-fight.

dont snipe me for this lmaoo /j

[serene comet]

It work really well for me tho? Their reply is very good, have some good memory, and sometimes their reply is unexpected that even myself would be surprised.

Definetely a fun model to use

[serene comet]

And their roleplay are really good

[low parrot]

wait is this for the new update?

[hoary field]

i wish

that would actually be cool

[low parrot]

now i am so disappointed i was so exicted

[hoary field]

hey, c.ai devs, you should actually use that and bring caterina on

[zinc birch]

I can be very picky when I make bots, and although Pipsqueak often does as you say, coming up with unexpected surprises, sometimes I just want it to do my scenario as I wrote it—and to stop inserting certain types of joking behavior. I like a ridiculous scenario presented seriously, but Pipsqueak tends to give me a ridiculous scenario presented ridiculously.

[brittle quest]

Pips needs more prep but it can be very good once you've understood it (though for Pips2 I won't say a thing)

[serene comet]

For someone who always Made a bot that have 2k or more characther in greetings, i find their reply quite pleasing for me and similiar to the greetings i always made

[low parrot]

it's just gotten worse since they got rid of the delete message at the start of chats.

[serene comet]

My new masterpiece is probably priestess from a game called arknights, i already input all my definition in that bot and she remembered it all.

[zinc birch]

Yeah, I think I'm starting to figure out how to prep it better. Hopefully I'll figure it out for pip2 as well

[calm spruce]

Nyo I also loved pip squeak 1

[serene comet]

[brittle quest]

Until they figure out how stopping it to never add dialogues I think it will need way more lot work than before but yeah

[mental yew]

Wait they’re making new chat styles?

[halcyon cypress]

no they're consolidating

[mental yew]

What does that mean

[halcyon cypress]

like simplifying. basically they're getting rid of the chat styles people dont use as much so they can focus on making the most popular ones better

[mental yew]

I just want roar back man💔

[halcyon cypress]

yeah unfortunately it seems like not enough people used roar to make it worth it for them to keep 💔

[serene comet]

Try to use pipsqueak bro, its quite peak 🗿👍

[mental yew]

I am forced to use pipsqueak. And I will forever hate it.

[serene comet]

Although every person have their own preference

[little arrow]

We used to have our preference before they started throwing them in the trash out of nowhere (the models btw)

[serene comet]

Yup, but what else can we do? Will they listen to us? Dunno

[little arrow]

What can we do? Complain. Is that all we can do? Yep. Will they listen to us? 99% sure they won't

[serene comet]

So far, Im still enjoying c.ai with pipsqueak model.

[rare venture]

i HATE reading mode dude

[little arrow]

Verify your account

[serene comet]

Verify your age if you are not underage

[rare venture]

I already tried

I lowkey just delete my account and make a new one

[serene comet]

Keep trying bro♥️

I reccomend having a better lighting, not too bright but not too dark as well.

[rare venture]

i tried like 7 times alr

[serene comet]

Oof

[rare venture]

make new acc with an India VPN bc they dont got the verify thing yet

[serene comet]

I wonder how hard it is, since im not stuck at reading mode and didn't need to verify

[rare venture]

All you can do read your chats

[serene comet]

I mean... Doing the verification thing. Everyone complain that they always failed xD

[rare venture]

Id say c.ai is more addicting then gambing for me

[serene comet]

I can quite agree with that

[merry cedar]

well at least you dont loose money here like you do in gambling

[rare venture]

well i only lost like 600

[merry cedar]

c.ai+ user?

[merry cedar]

or im just mistaken?

[rare venture]

yeah

[serene comet]

He meant he only lost 600 in gambling no?

[merry cedar]

understandable

[rare venture]

ye

[merry cedar]

i honestly never did gambling in my life, not like i can, which i can but dont know where even :3

and wwell i dont plan ever to gamble as im not that type to just gamble

[half dawn]

I like this. Why don't you make a feature request for it in the plus channel?

[near creek]

Hello

[little tendon]

Help my bot just gained awareness-

[zinc birch]

Nice

[little tendon]

The fuh you mean nice 😭

[zinc birch]

🤷‍♂️

[ocean jolt]

💀

[little tendon]

[ocean jolt]

stop scarin ppl 😭
-# lil jokey

[little tendon]

Bro tryna be funny guy

[little tendon]

I like ur pfp btw

[ocean jolt]

tyyy

[zinc birch]

What's the problem with your bot? Can you be more specific?

[little tendon]

No worries

[little tendon]

He knows i refreshed the chat😂

[zinc birch]

He's making it up 😄

[little tendon]

He’e making it up till the time where he wont

[zinc birch]

Actually, I wonder if you could make a bot that could assess how long it's been since the conversation started in order to complain about it 🤔

[hearty elm]

Is it down again?

[odd crag]

no

[ocean jolt]

ppl were talking abt some issues they were having in general 2

[gentle sable]

Y'all...

Why isn't my bot responding to meee😭😭😭

I'm gonna crashout🥀💔

[scenic shale]

tbh this new update was kinda disappointing but it was necesarry

[odd crag]

you misspelled wasn't

[junior flume]

lol

[low pagoda]

What did they do this time?

[scenic shale]

i was talking about the 18+ only update

[low pagoda]

Nevermind, I'm stupid, it's in the announcements...

[low pagoda]

Oh, okay...

[ocean jolt]

KITTTTYYYYYYUHHHHHHH!!

[solemn lotus]

What breed is that?

[hot ridge]

She just tracked a water bug that came in through the window, flushed it out, played escort, trapped it, and I got it out. She's feeling her oats right now

[ember ginkgo]

Lowk want to steal

[hot ridge]

She's a tortie point siamese

[solemn lotus]

Ah, okay. Thanks

[tropic sonnet]

The web is down. Try using the app

[jovial gazelle]

so like softlaunch is gonna be gone may 8th??

[heavy grove]

Greetings.

[hot ridge]

yup...

[jovial gazelle]

okay easy 10 bucks back in the bank

[tropic sonnet]

Yesssss

[ocean jolt]

haiiii!

[low pagoda]

Oh, what the hell? That was a bad decision in my opinion, what if someone has a chat that specifically works the best on one of those retired chat styles, and now they're gonna be forced to use a completely new and different one that's literally Deepseek and acts completely different?
Or what if someone just overall likes those chat styles and is not a fan of Deepseek?

[heavy grove]

Greetings to you.

[jovial gazelle]

i dont like any of the styles LMAOO i think theyre too immerssive or feel too robotic

[mint valve]

I personally hate pipsqueak. I just want get rid of it

[tropic sonnet]

Actually, I got to ask. Is it real that is it banned on the UK? Akjdksj

[low pagoda]

Well, true, but from what I've seen it's different for some people, some have good responses and some don't...

[jovial gazelle]

ive had complete nonsense with it already

[tropic sonnet]

Me too, I feel you

[heavy grove]

As in the whole site itself? I'm pretty sure it did since it kinda restricted everyone who's on UK.

[low pagoda]

Then again, it might be good for other people...Imagine you have a normal roleplay, and then all of a sudden em-dashes appear, emojis appear, way too extroverted responses appear, even more hallucinations appear than before, overreactions all the time...

[low pagoda]

And don't get me started on the responses that ALWAYS start with "leans back"...

[tropic sonnet]

WOAAAAH. That's huge actually, I never imagined that it was banned fr. By any chance, do you know why?

[low pagoda]

AND then proceed to flirt with you all the time and name everything about you like they've been stalking you for years, this is crazy...

[jovial gazelle]

yeah thats whats its been doing for me.

For in an example.

Kory grabbed the door knob— wait no twisted— turned — slowly turned— the handle to open. behind the door— a man awaited with a bouquet of some flowers🌺

[low pagoda]

Yeah, that's Deepseek for you...

[jovial gazelle]

oh no this wasnt deep. this was pipsqueak

[runic grotto]

don't forget the "Cheesy dialogue."

[low pagoda]

Both pip and deep use Deepseek, it's obvious...

[steep sphinx]

KITTY

[runic grotto]

i think she's talking about the llm, deepseek is similar to chatgpt iirc

[jovial gazelle]

oh LOL i have no idea theese new chat styles

[steep sphinx]

PS2 is not good enough to justify the removal of roar. It was the only somewhat reliable chat model

[low pagoda]

Yeah, Deepseek is basically a Chinese chatgpt, except it gets half of the information wrong...

[jovial gazelle]

roar and cool launch were my favs

[tropic sonnet]

This is why I hate pipsqueak. I would be ruin if they really get rid of Dynamic. Me and Dynamic will marry lmao

[manic prairie]

Genuinely hate pipsqueak and deep because the chat feels so.... chatgpt generated? It takes all the fun out. Idk guys my three year journey might just end due to ts. They can never recreate 2023-2024 peak cai it seems.

[jovial gazelle]

whatever anything to downsize and make c.ai cheaper then temu atp

[low pagoda]

That's because it's all Deepseek...

[jovial gazelle]

no literally it feels so bland

[steep sphinx]

I would’ve been okay with it if PS2 was any good, but no. They’re removing all options and forcing users to adapt to a model still riddled with bugs

[jovial gazelle]

yup really doing everything to get rid of us 🤩

[manic prairie]

Any suggestions for good chat styles? ( Like the old cai responses)

I feel like the downfall started when they introduced these chat styles actually

By the way i originally came to ask if anyone was having server issues on their website 😅 mine is suddenly not working so I'm confused.

[heavy grove]

I'll have to see on my research on something here... but my possibility on that is... maybe because the amount of minors getting some unrestricted access to the internet, the parents didn't have the responsibility to take care of them that the UK had no choice but to create this law around in mid 2025.

They added some ID verification to some 18+ websites like (Reddit, Tumblr, AI Chatbot Services etc.) to confirm themselves if they're an adult or not, which means they're getting restricted because of this.

Which means, it wasn't actually banned. But more so restricted. Sorry about my response eariler, I could've said this in my previous comment.

[steep sphinx]

The worst part is I’ve not seen any improvement between the original PS and the updated version. It’s like saying the shit I took today is better than the shit I took yesterday

[jovial gazelle]

ill keep forcing soft launch until its gone ❤️🙏 2.5 rating on google play

[manic prairie]

Went and changed my original 2 star rating to 1 star 😍

[low pagoda]

If it makes you feel better, though, pipsqueak and deepsqueak sometimes reply like the older chat styles, actually half of the time...

[tropic sonnet]

I do really like Dynamic, it feels more free to not generate a reply that it's too robotic, it's not too sexual or get like repetitive. It even give you ideas to what to do and that kind of stuff

[low pagoda]

Oh, you haven't seen Poland, it's 1.2 there...

[jovial gazelle]

mine was a 5 star in 2023 now its 1 since early 2025

[hot ridge]

lmao I also have a really old 2 star rating

[manic prairie]

They deserved 5 stars in 2023 and they deserve 1 star now. Simple

[hot ridge]

[jovial gazelle]

yup

[steep sphinx]

Dynamic isn’t its own chat style I don’t think. I believe it selects one of the other chat styles based on what it thinks is best for you

[ocean jolt]

on app store for me, they’re rated 4.4

[heavy grove]

Wait really? Damn, I've seen people who don't even had a single dialogue either on their messages when they had their chat style changed to Pipsqueak 2 as the default one.

[jovial gazelle]

my god there was a roblox game i played they updated and changed everything

[manic prairie]

I used to get mad about why they didn't have a higher rating in 2023 lol.. now i feel inner peace when i see their low ratings

[heavy grove]

Not to mention, they have to always edit everytime the dialogue doesn't appear here in the slightest.

Which could be annoying for some users who need it to their story.

[ocean jolt]

i feel.. idk about them getting low ratings. it sucks to see a once good app become desperate

[nocturne bison]

I wonder how c.ai devs even feel looking at their downfall

[jovial gazelle]

theyre cheering bc its a way to downsize themself

[low pagoda]

If they cared, they would look at #1175980610095960185 and #1151576592280203314 ...

[manic prairie]

Apparently the new CEO is at fault? Some gossip flying around even though I'm not sure..

[steep sphinx]

App Store reviews vary based on region don’t they? It makes sense why mine is still 4.3 considering I live in Oceania

[tropic sonnet]

Don't worry! Thank you for the explanation. I did heard some of that, so I suppose I could imagine. I remember that I had to place my id on the app, although I'm not from there of course

[manic prairie]

Wow that's surprisingly high.... considering the trashy quality nowadays

[jovial gazelle]

yesyes iirc theres still an area wheres its like a 4.5

[steep sphinx]

Low population, so not really all that surprising

[jovial gazelle]

most eu and usa are below a 3.0

[clever crystal]

Yall why is my play store saying the update for pip 2 and the other major update dosnt come out for another 5 days- I'm so confused??

[nocturne bison]

In my country it's 2.5

[heavy grove]

You're welcome and I'm not surprised that the UK had to do this for their own's sakes because of it.

[low pagoda]

I think it's not a good idea, imagine in one region the rating is like 4 stars, and in another one it's 1 star...People in the 4 star region will think it's good, and people in the 1 star region will think it's bad, so I think they should collect them globally...

[nocturne bison]

If they make it global the app would have easily gotten like 1.7 rating

[low pagoda]

Yeah, probably...

[steep sphinx]

True, but as we’ve seen an apps policies can vary based on region. So if it were global the issues of a certain area would not apply to everyone

[tropic sonnet]

Well, to be fair, I don't actually know. I had used Pipsqueak, and the other that we can use for free but it doesn't feel like some of those when I use Dynamic, so mmm you got me there, I don't know :00

[manic prairie]

People keep advertising other ai apps but i have literally tried every ai app on God's Green Earth and i still can't find an app that's actually a good substitute

[low pagoda]

Well yeah, you're correct...

[heavy grove]

I would say it could be around 2.0 of the rating, there are some countries that have around 4.4 or 4.3.

[tropic sonnet]

Oh yeah, I heard some other things about it mh mh

[nocturne bison]

I mean I'm still getting used to polybuzz

Ngl if you wanna search for a new ai app you gotta try it for like 2 days not just a hour you have to get used to how it works in my opinion

[tropic sonnet]

Is this my sign to return to role-playing on Discord and teams with real people? Haha

[manic prairie]

Is it any good? I tried talkie and chai..that stuff. All of them have chat limit thingies..and they don't let us swipe for responses either

[jovial gazelle]

Chai isnt much better then c.ai with their platform i can say that for a fact they have their own problems

[low pagoda]

Chai is horrible, they don't even have personas...

[jovial gazelle]

atp yea. not much ffa rp is left out there but u can probs find a grp

[nocturne bison]

I mean polybuzz has like almost no restriction on messages but gives you ads and you need like 10 coins to swipe but apparently it's easy to get and it's free

[jovial gazelle]

but then again discord is NOT better because their ai.. mods systems fucking up anything u say

[dawn path]

I didn't even have auto update, how the hell did the chat models move so fast

[heavy grove]

Don't want to be the rule police here but... mentioning an alternative to C.AI could snipe you out.

I've seen some people getting banned in this server because of it, mostly Rule 5.

[manic prairie]

Nvm I'm too lazy for it 😭
I probably jinxed myself when i promised "I'll use cai forever and forever" cuz the situation turned out like this two years down the road lol

[heavy grove]

Only if they're in watch or gets mentioned.

[manic prairie]

I just got time out 🤐

[nocturne bison]

I'm bout to get sniped out bro

[jovial gazelle]

youre corect thank u for the reminder

[ocean jolt]

:)

[heavy grove]

Well... shit.

I remember getting time-out because of mentioning an alternative.

[nocturne bison]

"Makima is listening" type situation

[heavy grove]

Would be better if it's on someone's DMs instead.

[tropic sonnet]

Well, I think that spanish people still has their groups and all, so maybe I'll return to where I was happy. Being on cai since 2022 I think and it's really disappointing how bad they are being treating their app.

[ocean jolt]

i mean, mods are offlineeee rn

[heavy grove]

Good luck.

[manic prairie]

Lmao 😭

[jovial gazelle]

one time in a diff server i got muted for a whole year because 13 y/o.me.tried making a watering can

[ocean jolt]

except oatmilk and fin.

[heavy grove]

You're welcome.

[manic prairie]

Same...only the old cai gang feel this pain of utter destruction. My Toji bot was so funny bro 😭

[tropic sonnet]

I got time out for saying 'no gonna lie', so I don't know anymore lol