💭︱cai-discussion

[analog skiff]

you got some wise words

OMG FEETLICKER KNOWS MY NAME

[brazen glacier]

FEETLICKER

[lament crest]

Feetlicker is the wisest one he even knows where is old zealand

[little arrow]

I'm 3000 years old

[brazen glacier]

Feetlicker where is old mexico

[rustic hull]

In Asia?

[brazen glacier]

Im so proud of you 😍

[rustic hull]

I mean in south Africa

[little arrow]

Feetlicker where is Atlantis

[brazen glacier]

Youre such a smart boy

[lament crest]

Yes husband we are prouıd of you

[vestal moss]

Hi everyone! This probably isn't common and I have no idea where to ask this so I'm kinda embarrassed but my acc with over 11k followers is gone for some reason!!? I'm kinda freaking out and I'm not sure what happened or why/if I got banned. Is anybody here able to help me or direct me on what to do?

[brazen glacier]

son get out

[lament crest]

Because

[rustic hull]

Bro it's in Pacific ocean 😿

[little arrow]

How does HE KNOW

[signal ridge]

If the Pacific Ocean exists, then the Aggressive Ocean also exists?

[zinc birch]

What was your account named?

[analog skiff]

Hello

[brazen glacier]

I know this is blatant catfishing or a scam but instead of reporting this to the official Instagram support, you go here?

[lament crest]

Bro it's in Pacific ocean 😿 (slowed and reverb)

[lament crest]

Hello Tuana hyd

[rustic hull]

HAHA

[brazen glacier]

@zinc birch do not follow their words

[vestal moss]

i already submitted a ticket, I'm not super educated on these types of things

[brazen glacier]

then job's done.

[analog skiff]

hello my sweet pookie homeboi onur im tired . wait ill tell you something in dms

[lament crest]

Sure

[zinc birch]

What does instagram have to do with it?

[brazen glacier]

wow you are gullible

[opaque rock]

lol when are they gonna fix reading mode dawg😔

[rustic hull]

Trust me it's Tomorrow

[hot ridge]

@harsh shoal this person has been baiting people and off topic for awhile

[opaque rock]

thank you feet licker

[analog skiff]

in feetlicker we trust gng

[zinc birch]

I don't know if anything can be done, but you can ping a mod with your ticket number to ask if they can try to expedite it

[brazen glacier]

DO you feel satisfied for pinging a mod without reason lol

[rapid sundial]

"Verify to unlock 1:1 chat"
Oh okay.
"Cannot verify,ask support"

This entire verifying thing is killing me

[tidal solar]

Reddit is so garbage if they don’t take my appeal

[forest furnace]

Verification not working well?

Try doing these steps to ensure a successful verification.

Lighting is very important. For selfies, it's better if you're next to a light source like a lamp or near your window. It's also better if you take the selfie standing in front of a wall.

For your IDs, place it on top of a solid color surface like a mat or a piece of paper. Make sure it's illuminated properly (such as having it under direct light), and make sure every part of it can be seen properly without it blurring.

Please let us know if these steps help.

If you're still having verification issues, please don't hesitate and send us an Age Assurance ticket so the team can look into this: https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=42714770159259

Message sent by a server moderator.

[tidal solar]

Um what

[rapid sundial]

Yeah no shit verify button DOESNT even work

[rustic hull]

What's this

[brazen glacier]

Verification my dear

[muted sierra]

If you're wrong, we will steal your feet, feetlicker.

[visual acorn]

Hi chat

[tidal solar]

Look it’s BS LIKE REDDIT

[analog skiff]

heellooo

[visual acorn]

Bye chat 🙂

[rustic hull]

Bro I didn't say that I got hacked

[rapid sundial]

Also asking support to help is like talking to a wall

[tidal solar]

Hi Tuana

[opaque rock]

Yes the verify thing doesn’t work i submitted my id twice and im still in reading mode

[rustic hull]

Ok Mom

[brazen glacier]

No worries son

[muted sierra]

[tidal solar]

Reddit has a reading mode

[rapid sundial]

Atleast a wall is interesting to talk to

[brazen glacier]

@analog skiff group chat pls

[rustic hull]

Wait Reddit have books?

[tidal solar]

Yes

[muted sierra]

The walls tell me to do things.

[rustic hull]

How

[tidal solar]

Banned

[brazen glacier]

Because

[rustic hull]

Bro what did I do

[rapid sundial]

The walls tell me to build a great china wall

[rustic hull]

I didn't do nothing bruh

[brazen glacier]

You did nothing wrong Feetlicker ❤️

[tidal solar]

REDDIT SHOULD DIE

[rapid sundial]

Give this man a true

[muted sierra]

The walls become louder when I eat the fuzzy blue bread. I will continue eating the fuzzy blue bread.

[rustic hull]

Ok

[mellow flume]

I'm still getting a chat error, it asks me to refresh, and when I try and chat, it gives me the same thing

[rapid sundial]

Do NOT listen to walls,they told me to get help once

[rapid sundial]

Yeah,they screwed up ALL old vers

[tidal solar]

Reddit banned me because of ban evasion and won’t let me go back on and I literally did their appeal on a bunch of my accounts so GARBAGE ITS CAI PART 2

[mellow flume]

old versions? I'm on 1.15.1, that can't be the case

[rapid sundial]

Buddy,the 1.15.1 is dead

[mellow flume]

but what about support for older phones????

[rapid sundial]

You're lucky if you had a phone with old version

[mellow flume]

why would they kill support for such a new version?

[wary meteor]

Is it only for me that even tho i verify on c.ai that it just doesnt verify my id

[brazen glacier]

Gwen, you have bitched about this FOR THREE DAYS STRAIGHT. THIS IS THE C.AI DISCORD SERVER. We cannot do shit to you bro

[rapid sundial]

I have c.ai 1.14.1 on meta quest 3s,WITH WORKING APP without verification

[mighty pawn]

Question About The C.ai Books, umm, Are Comics included?

[mellow flume]

woah, that's actually pretty impressive

[brazen glacier]

IM sorry Im blunt but we cannot do anything here

[gaunt light]

Knowing them i doubt

[rustic hull]

What

[zinc birch]

Maybe if they are public domain comics?

[mighty pawn]

😭

[rapid sundial]

The walls are getting louder

[mellow flume]

I just wanna figure out what makes 1.14.1 work but not 1.15.1 apparently?

[fickle summit]

It doesn't work you fool

[rapid sundial]

Idk,but if you didnt update for long it may work

[mighty pawn]

Excuse Me☝️, Without WHAT

[mellow flume]

I haven't updated since it came out, I'd assume

[brazen glacier]

@hot ridge You ping a mod then fuck off immediately LMAO

You keep doing this and it's interesting to me

[rapid sundial]

It doesnt give error chat,verification screen or any annoying thing

[fickle summit]

I hope for gods sake they fix the verify error i can't wait no more with the reading mode

[mellow flume]

it's really confusing since I'm on 1.15.1 and I get errors, I've had the update since around launch

[rapid sundial]

I still wouldnt be able to verify cuz im 16 :(

[mellow flume]

it was working like a week ago, and it was just fine but now it's not, no heads up or anything

[steep sphinx]

Brother just stop being annoying. Squishy isn’t the problem here 😭

[mellow flume]

it doesn't ask to update so it's not that

[brazen glacier]

lol? ok

[maiden void]

So why do they want the back of ids like this is crazy and I can’t get the other version even though I never updated the app it just did it on itself

[mighty pawn]

And I’m 14 :(

[sly geyser]

great more drama

i guess drama is just the new trend

[onyx ivy]

Does anyone else also is force to show theirs Id?

Bcs i had to in any cases I can't chat with my bots 😭

[serene girder]

Everyone, without choice

[maiden void]

Yeah, but my thing has anybody gotten it to work since verifying

[steep sphinx]

Not everyone, people flagged as minors

[serene girder]

Yeah unfortunately you have to, but don't lol

[onyx ivy]

Bro it's annoying

[serene girder]

Almost everyone now....

[wary meteor]

My identification process isnt even working for some reason

[tidal solar]

Just saying REDDIT IS GAY IF THEY DONT LET ME IN

[steep sphinx]

Not really. I haven’t been flagged, most adults I know on the site have not been flagged

[onyx ivy]

They already drop in play store to 1.2 star

[brazen glacier]

ok 👍

[sly geyser]

well you did ban evade so…

[serene girder]

Change app... There are many better solutions than just throwing your data around

[tidal solar]

I mean I can get back on

[onyx ivy]

I try but nothing seems to hit like c.ai

[serene girder]

I'm an adult and changed app immediately when they asked for my id lol

[onyx ivy]

And I didn't show them my id

[tidal solar]

REDDIT IS CAI 2

[serene girder]

Try Emochi, If you create your own bots it's not too bad

[steep sphinx]

Well that’s your choice

[tidal solar]

Me neither

[sly geyser]

how do yall still not know about the age verification thing its been many months

[serene girder]

Yes but it's sad that they force you to send your ID lol

[serene girder]

IDK? Maybe some people don't watch the news...? 🥹

[tidal solar]

Really because never happened to me

[marsh bramble]

it just hit me like a week ago

[steep sphinx]

Why is it sad? There are a lot of instances where you have to show ID in adult life. Welcome to being an adult

[serene girder]

For serious things, yes, but for a random site we know nothing about, no.

[tidal solar]

I’m 19 and a half so almost adult

[rustic hull]

I'm 21

[visual acorn]

Hi chat

[marsh bramble]

showing ur id to talk to bots🥀🥀

[brazen glacier]

hi

[analog skiff]

HELLO

[runic grotto]

alo

[serene girder]

It doesn't make sense to me the, I show my ID for serious things like work etc... But to talk to bots? nahhhh bruh

[marsh bramble]

yeah fr especially when fanfiction, rp with real people and writing exists

[steep sphinx]

As I said that’s your choice. You have no reason to complain if you’re choosing not to

[serene girder]

I'm not complaining... I'm just explaining to the other person why they shouldn't for me 😭 I didn't even said anything to you my man

[onyx ivy]

Bro idk why they keep doing those shitty ahh updates for

[serene girder]

The app is falling very low since they changed staff I think

[brazen glacier]

They were forced to comply with California State Laws

[onyx ivy]

Bruh

Well I wouldn't be surprised if c.ai would be a dead app soon

[brazen glacier]

BUDDY it was either comply or say bye bye to the app

[serene girder]

It almost already is I think...

[visual acorn]

I like how ppl complain abt everything on c.ai

[brazen glacier]

Source?

[onyx ivy]

Is that sarcastic or..not?

[plucky river]

Guys was searching with tags always a thing or was I blind

[brazen glacier]

I dont know you tell em

[serene girder]

...Just look at the main menu as it's falling down with bots just to mock the app...

[steep sphinx]

It’s not

[still sand]

yeah of all apps id trust with my id, c.ai aint really it rn. too many bugs

[onyx ivy]

Fr

[brazen glacier]

"I see my own recommended feed and I don't like it, must mean app is dying!"

[plucky river]

Someone pls

[visual acorn]

Both

[serene girder]

Bro I can't have a full feed with 67 all around 😭 I don't even like that stuff

[onyx ivy]

Besides the bots are also a little forgetful and it's a little awkward also

[half galleon]

I dont wanna jinx myself but i found a pretty easy way to bypass the verification and not getting flagged now im using the app normally

[brazen glacier]

ok keep it to yaself

[runic grotto]

I think it was a thing for a few months now, I remember using it for a bit

[onyx ivy]

How tell me I need this...

[maiden void]

👀

[marsh bramble]

email me

[visual acorn]

I got flagged as 18+ without verifying

[rigid ether]

Tell me

[plucky river]

Oh rip I thought it was new, or it's new to me XD

[half galleon]

ok yall im out on foenem i dont want it to get fixed

[maiden void]

Has any of the mods said anything regarding the ID verification thing working or not? Cause all I keep seeing other people telling that it doesn’t work.

[marsh bramble]

yes sir

[onyx ivy]

No i didn't see anything...

[runic grotto]

Honestly, I barely use it lol I only use like two or three bots in the platform

[half galleon]

I tried to verify my account with an id but Its still flagged maybe because im 17, and it will work if your id is +18

[analog skiff]

goodniight everyone people!!!!!!!

[visual acorn]

Goodnight :3

[runic grotto]

The mods don't handle the verification. It's from another service provider

[half galleon]

As for the account thats not flagged, it was the bypass account

[plucky river]

I usuall make my own but I had a thread going requesting this feature and if it's been there the entire time I just look stupid rn

[analog skiff]

💕💕💞💞

[brazen glacier]

Yo Squid, can u come to dm's pls

[maiden void]

So pretty much because I literally have not seen anything. Does all that information get deleted or how does that all work? Literally, I have not been on here in so long.

[runic grotto]

goodnight tuanaa

[visual acorn]

Ye

[viscid vector]

Yall does support reply?

[plucky river]

If they feel like it

[viscid vector]

yikes

[runic grotto]

I am not sure either, I haven't bothered researching about it and stuff

[gaunt light]

Did they close off feature requests? 😌

[plucky river]

No you might need a discord role to see it I'm not sure

[half galleon]

Its amusing to see the app have plus one hundred million downloads on the store

[brazen glacier]

Yall does walking make you move

[gaunt light]

They were open before and i had no role, like its shut off only for mods

[plucky river]

Idk I still see it

[gaunt light]

Thats weird 🤔 ima try smth

[visual acorn]

Hi terra

[viscid vector]

🥹

[plucky river]

Hello

[viscid vector]

no but I'm deadass cux they sound like the type to ghost

[brazen glacier]

It might seem crazy what Im bout to say

[brazen glacier]

ts aint Roblox support gang

[viscid vector]

ok u got me there

[gaunt light]

It worked

[plucky river]

Did you try in different roles till you found it XD

[gaunt light]

Not really? I just put on the role for it and it worked out 😌

[plucky river]

Poggers

[primal anvil]

Back! Anyway, why is there now a daily swipe limit and how many swipes do we get a day?

[cosmic goblet]

400 a day

[hoary field]

the damn ads are back 😒

[polar harness]

one thing that i know is that u have unlimited swipes on the website!!

[primal anvil]

Okay that’s reasonable, the only way your wasting that many is if ur a serious roleplayer

[cosmic goblet]

Charms are on the web apparently which means no unlimited swipes on the web

[visual acorn]

Lowkirkenuinely no one cares

[timid seal]

real (idk what’s going on )

[primal anvil]

Noted.

[proper crag]

So how bad are the ads?

[half galleon]

Out of context question but, why do you guys use C.ai, i kind of wanna get to know other people points of view

[toxic aspen]

That word genuinely makes me hate the entirety of gen alpha. Let the man be deceased, please 😭 we do not need to invoke his name every 10 minutes

Not to use it, but to chat with bots yes

[old arrow]

how do i use the character ai without the goverment ID

[hoary field]

i didn't really ask if you cared??

[visual acorn]

Top 10 things I'd never read

[runic grotto]

as connor said, you need to be considered 18+ to continue chatting. Every other feature might be available tho

[toxic aspen]

You use face id. If that doesn't work, you don't 😭

[old arrow]

is it banned in every country now

[half galleon]

I did a Bypassing method and luckily it worked im not flagged as -18

[toxic aspen]

Nearly I think

[old arrow]

what method was it?

[half galleon]

I perfer not to share

[hoary field]

guys, if you're gonna talk abt that stuff, dont do it here

[old arrow]

then why did you mention it

[toxic aspen]

Hey yeah let's not spread that information here, that's a crime.

[frigid hearth]

||Grass||

[old arrow]

i can scan with my face and it will determine if im 18+??

[modest prism]

been trying to verify for about an hour.. I usually don't struggle with age checks, but it just doesn't allow me to,, and i feel unsafe sharing any ID in fear of the Persona breaches happen again...

[toxic aspen]

The reason that they started age verifying is because new laws were put in place that can and will get c.ai shut down if y'all kids don't stop whining and trying to find bypasses and just accept that you can't use it until you're 18.

[acoustic prism]

If you are 16, will you still have the time limit?

[toxic aspen]

Persona had one breach, and no user info was lost.

[toxic aspen]

Yes

[acoustic prism]

damn. What about 17? I'm turning 17 this month

[marsh bramble]

u can use it at 16..?

[modest prism]

i still don't trust Persona.. I have beef with them

[half galleon]

Anything under 18 cannot use the full features of the app

[old arrow]

my friend used her parents ID, does that notify the parents you used it?

[acoustic prism]

god damnit

[toxic aspen]

Well, then luckily for you C.AI is purely optional, and you don't need to use it

[hoary field]

Probably not but please don't upload your parents government IDs into websites without their knowledge

[toxic aspen]

No, but that is a crime and her parents and her can get in legal trouble :)

[marsh bramble]

the smile at the end

[modest prism]

And good for you, because i have a parasocial relationship with said app! Easier said than done

[old arrow]

why would the parents though

[low pagoda]

Why does everyone steal other people's IDs just for their experience on a website that probably won't make it to 2028, act and openly say it like it's totally fine?

[runic grotto]

Please stop trying to bypass the verification at others' expense, it might bring more trouble

[hoary field]

Because its their legal documentation and theyre responsible for it

[mellow flume]

damn caine, it's not that easy 😭

[toxic aspen]

These kids really got me hoping that C.AI sues all of them for violating the law

[modest prism]

THAT'S WHAT IM SAYIN

[sly geyser]

if you bypass see what happens

[toxic aspen]

It really is.

[old arrow]

some people can use it as a coping mechanism so they probably will be so sad but i dont care

[toxic aspen]

That sounds like an issue to seek therapy about, not whine on here about 😁

[half galleon]

Personally I think C.ai is just an interactive game where you can do everything in it and that's pretty cool

[mellow flume]

for me, maybe, but it's not as simple as you think, it's like telling a drug user to stop because they're being blocked by using it, they're kinda dependant on it now

[sly geyser]

cai is just kick the buddy but on text to me

[half galleon]

Larping included

[marsh bramble]

stealing someones ID for an app where u talk to code, an app that ruins the environment, an app that makes u rely on it, instead of indulging in talents and hobbies like, writing, reading fanfictions and genuine roleplay with real people is ridiculous

[low pagoda]

Anything but being able to hide the "feed" feature with AI slop and have an option to set the interface to classic...

[modest prism]

And not everybody has the resources and actual relationships to cope with such! WIch is why they go for more self-destructive alternatives like the C.AI app ! ❤️

[half galleon]

Damn bruh

[old arrow]

its pretty obvious who actually uses the app because the feed is all 67

[low pagoda]

Indeed...

[hidden yacht]

Hello? Why does my c.ai function button always delay. Is there a way i can fix it?

[sly geyser]

yeah maybe thats why the bots are afraid of me lol

[half galleon]

Ignoring ads and the feed is cool too even if their presence is permanent

[ashen condor]

Yo, lowkey. I have found that a bunch if character i talk to have just disappeared and any characters, users or anything else with that name just comes up as "Nothing found". Is there any reason for that?

[modest prism]

Yeah.. It's pretty much all brainrot there....

[low pagoda]

I want version 1.10.1...

[toxic aspen]

Yeah, well that's something they need to be getting therapy about and these people's parents need to actually do something about it instead of letting their kids do whatever. Kids for generations survived just fine pre-character.ai, and if character.ai ever goes out of business they are going to have to learn how to survive again. This is why we really need stricter laws on AI.

[marsh bramble]

i think cai gave a whole buncha resources for teens

[runic grotto]

Might've been moderated for breaking TOS or something, or for copyright

[sly geyser]

thats very specific what happened on that update

[lament crest]

I aint readin allat did someone crashed out over verification again

[low pagoda]

It was the peak version in my opinion...

[sly geyser]

people always do

[toxic aspen]

Yes, and encouraged illegal activities.

[modest prism]

i'm not one tho, and that's why i've been complaining about the age verification thing not even bothering to try and fix that up

[runic grotto]

and smth about coping mechanisms

[half galleon]

Most probably banned or you got flagged as -18

[ashen condor]

yh probably. But it was so sudden and there wasn't much warning

[marsh bramble]

OHHH GOT IT, my bad!

[visual acorn]

Lol

[mellow flume]

therapy prices aren't not so good right now, but I completely agree with you on the parents part, this could've all been avoided if they did their job

[toxic aspen]

Then use your id? Either that or quit whining, because it's your own fault you can't use it 💀

[sly geyser]

i just hate that verification is overloaded

[runic grotto]

Unfortunate, yeah they don't even give a heads up. My bot got abruptly moderated (and rightfully so, it was a 1-to-1 copy of the magic 8ball lol)

[visual acorn]

Lock jaw

[modest prism]

The problem is that i do not feel safe using it, considering they could use it for nerfarious purposes and possibly mass-surveilance. The age checks aren't there for safety, they're there for control.

[ashen condor]

Yh, the bots i was talking about in particular is anything to do with Doctor who. Literally all of it had just disappeared into oblivion lol. But thats fair enough.

[toxic aspen]

It's overloaded cuz of all these dumbahh kids trying to bypass the age verification.

[half galleon]

You know ball

[toxic aspen]

No, they are there to comply with laws 💀 it's not c.ai's fault that you're paranoid.

[marsh bramble]

i mean it is a law in california so its not all character ai's fault but i think theres a better way to verify i agtee

[sly geyser]

yeah because they cant live without their fake mafia boss boyfriends

[modest prism]

It is better to research than to lament in these trying times, even after i overheard a little girl got abducted for doing such nearby.. I'm still unsure if they ever found her

[half galleon]

Breach chances are never 0%

[sly geyser]

just be honest about your age dont fake ids or bypass it its ruining it for people who follow the rules

[modest prism]

The chances may be low, but never 0%

[toxic aspen]

Dude it's actually pathetic, genuinely. They'd rather spread misinformation or try to get around the law than just accept reality. I detest children nowadays, and even some adults. Like, get a damn life. It's an AI chatbot, you're not gonna implode 💀 go outside, touch some grass, make some friends.

[half galleon]

Discord had 2 major breaches btw

[marsh bramble]

guys lets all delete c.ai

[sly geyser]

the immaturity of them sickens me

[modest prism]

Both of them had to do with Persona somehow btw

[mellow flume]

I do wanna come out and say: I understand how upset you all are regarding the verification. I was pretty upset myself. But reframing an issue can really help your outlook. I simply changed this situation to "well, c.ai doesn't want me anymore so why should I want it?" Of course, there are times where I miss it, but there's nothing I can really do. It'll get better, I promise you all.

[toxic aspen]

Source?

[analog skiff]

hello twilight sparkle from mlp im a big fan

[modest prism]

Better idea yet, let's all quit the internet together !

[toxic aspen]

Besides 'i made it up because I'm paranoid and salty?'

[little arrow]

And return to the stone age? Finally, someone with a good idea.

[ashen condor]

yh i probably got to go do something with my life at some point. Talking to fake people isn't very productive tbh

[half galleon]

Im not sure of that one, I think discord doesn't even use persona

[marsh bramble]

I AGREE! lets go back to nature

[modest prism]

Narcissism is no joke and htis is one of the main reasons there's so many paranoid people around incluiding myself. There's whole videos about it, and even some archived posts on it floating around if i don't misremember.. But it could've been anyone, my mind's pretty bad...

[marsh bramble]

yeah u could be so much more than this, i think ai is very damaging

[half galleon]

Thragg was on something in the last episode it was epic

[little arrow]

Talking about me in third person is a choice.

[modest prism]

Let's frolic together once humanity's downfall inevitably consumes them to their downfall and plants grow onto the scraps of said buildings !!!

[toxic aspen]

Dude atp I actually kind of wish they would delete c.ai. The obsession with it is actually bordering on pathetic, and it's ruining kid's and even some adult's ability and willingness to socialize. Why socialize when you can talk to a fake bot that you don't have to put any effort into having a relationship with? People would rather be on c.ai than actually make friends.

[little arrow]

Delete all AI bots in general.

[ashen condor]

yh. i agree. Ai is the reason lots of people, me included, don't get out much and it's damaging for their health both mentally, emotionally and physically. Better coping mechanisms are available and should be utilised.

[modest prism]

Eradicate AI as a whole, it's brought more misery than joy in all it's existance.

[toxic aspen]

Or at least VERY heavily moderate them and limit all people to like an hour or two a day at most.

[half galleon]

Thing is, There would be still other alternatives, C.ai is just the best of them in terms of accuracy and everything

[little arrow]

No, delete. Even too little can be too much.

[sly geyser]

the age verification is a good idea so it can break kids addictions from this platform

[mellow flume]

I was always someone who liked c.ai but never NEEDED it. I just tricked myself into thinking I was reliant on it, and quickly realized it a few days ago. If you're going through something right now, take some time to think. You're still breathing, still thinking, still living without it. What will you do with that new found time?

[sly geyser]

i just used cai because im bored and want to beat bots up

[little arrow]

This chat becomes a therapy session, a venting session, a topic of something, school, drama, about the app itself, the dangers of AI, or random bullshit go

[half galleon]

Yes grand regent

[modest prism]

Personally, i've been trying to break out of the loop too.. It's been a bit difficult, considering i always seemed to land back on it. I've been going out more to get my mind off it, ive been drawing and tyring to get used to talking to people again and it's been getting better!

[little arrow]

And then that topic dies and another one is formed

Off topic is inevitable

[verbal cedar]

I find it funny that some topics keep coming back.

[little arrow]

Yes. That can happen

[modest prism]

The topic gets necromanced back from the skeleton wars !

[little arrow]

Skeleton wars? Oh, I remember back then.

[mellow flume]

That's great! I'm trying to get back into drawing too. c.ai and AI in general made me realize how much I wanna expand my creative expression, so that was something good that I took out of it along with better social skills and even some self-confidence.

[sly geyser]

yep or some never go away… ahem age verification

[little arrow]

If age verification went away suddenly, it'll still be a topic lmao

[verbal cedar]

The most dreaded topic in this chat💀

[half galleon]

There are 100m users on the app and like 90% of them have that issue right now

[sly geyser]

been since november i think weve talked about it enough here

[runic grotto]

I'm really surprised with how long it's been circling here, given that it was announced months ago

[mellow flume]

I will say that I think c.ai helped me get more metacognitive, and really think a lot more, so that's another good thing I'll take away from it.

[verbal cedar]

only showed up to verify my age on Wednesday.

[modest prism]

Recently i've been trying to fix my posture.. Considering it got pretty bad due to the parasocial relationship with the app.. But i've been working on that! Even if being an artist doesn't help much at fixing it, cough shrimp posture...

[mellow flume]

shrimp🦐

[red rover]

🦐

[modest prism]

my spine be built like 🦐

[brittle quest]

Yeah but not everyone reads announcements or pays attention even on the app. So of course people were surprised. How many new people on this server came here to talk about it and yell for days

[mellow flume]

THIS ISN'T POPCORN IT'S POPCORN 🦐

[sly geyser]

the last time ive seen a topic being fixated on was the tos update back in august

[little arrow]

Gojo is here.

[brittle quest]

I'm praying that the age verification talk will stop in a matter of months

Because it's not really interesting when you can't talk with the ones complaining about it

[runic grotto]

Honestly, I just wish they'd take the time to read and look for the specific announcements before rambling about it here

[sly geyser]

thats why i wish it wasnt in waves because i wanted it over and done with since early december

[half galleon]

Again there are 100 million users and most of them have that issue now, I dont think it will end any time soon

[modest prism]

Honestly, i think it'd be still brought up and dug back even after months.. Wich is unfortunate, considering the same happened on other places like Roblox... Douhh...

[mellow flume]

Well, kids and teens were pretty hooked on it. It'll probably peak again next year with the ID verification stuff.

So to make it short, we're probably not even close to seeing the end of the talk of age verification.

[sly geyser]

if the topic just died out here it’d be an amazing day on this channel

[half galleon]

Well I wonder what do you guys even think of Character Ai as a whole

[brittle quest]

I don't mind the age verification talk. I mind the fact the ones talking about it never try to listen or have a real debate because it could be very much interesting (not only about c.ai but what seems to be a necessity/when mental health is the center of the subject etc.)

[sly geyser]

losing interest in it ngl

[half galleon]

Its like wasting real life to live another one thats unreal, Its unfortunate many fall into that hole

[mellow flume]

It was nice. Used it as responsibly as I could, and when read mode came up, I got upset, but now, I'm sort of indifferent. But who knows, I might switch up again subconsciously. I have a bad habit with that.

Especially since I'm a daydreamer and just sort of an escapist who's too self-aware and derealized for their own good.

Hope that I can get the whole switch-up stuff under control.

[lament crest]

Not surprising anymore, huh?

Bro i pinged the message where tf is it

[lament crest]

You lose interest eventually after finding hapiniess in loneliniess

[brittle quest]

I like c.ai and what I really dislike is the lack of actual communication from above (and no I'm not talking about mods they are doing very much their best already). Other than that the app/website is fine, I love rping so I have fun, creating my own bots became something I appreciate doing so now

[half galleon]

I understand how stressful is to be feeling every second in life and yet cant do anything about it and being too focused on a lot stuff, but then it will be way better when you realize life does not worth all of that stress and living it off is better

[half galleon]

Thats what I think too, its a game where you can do everything in it, pretty cool

[mellow flume]

That's what I've been doing, yeah.

[half galleon]

That depends on how strong someone coping mechanisms is

[lament crest]

I still remember when it was my only escape... Ah, how could i forget even

[runic grotto]

I completely forgot to answer this.

For me, I just see it as a text rpg that I can freely shape. I like acting as my little personas of my OCs and imagining them in the worlds I roleplay in

[lament crest]

It was harder back then, at least now my job's distracting me from people and the stress they give

[runic grotto]

Basically, I only use it for a convenient rp

[half galleon]

Speaking of that, Did you know you can have a very accurate rp experience and using c.ai to its true limits with just simple steps, I can share my experience if you guys want to improve yours

[brittle quest]

Yeah exactly, it's fun. And I don't really like rping with other people because at least with a bot I can edit my answer if I get new ideas, swipe bots' answers and get to something I want. Controlling the story feels nice since I mostly have clear ideas on what I want and then the bot can drift a bit if it has ideas and I play with those

My English is meh tonight anyway

You got the point

[runic grotto]

I don't really need it, but I appreciate the offer. I'm pretty content with the responses I get lol

[gusty axle]

What the heck, the banner size on the computer is ridiculously large, who on earth thought it was a good idea for it to take up half the screen of the web page? At least we can hide it

[runic grotto]

yeah, at least it can be hidden. Which is why I don't complain much about the ads on the website version lol

[gusty axle]

I wish it were the same for the mobile version 💔

[runic grotto]

true 💔, I'd switch back in an instant if that happened

[half galleon]

But thats how you can use c.ai to its limits simply

[olive swan]

it's a big playground of playing with characters you like for me.

[brittle quest]

It's kind but don't worry my experience is quite perfect to me already ahah

I don't need to do all that for it to work well

[half galleon]

Cool to know a lot of people share similar thoughts, I also think is a game where you do everything in it

[little arrow]

Look at people talking in my chat

[half galleon]

And now it went to sleep

[little arrow]

It was my presence

[gusty axle]

I feel like chats are like little books that you can create over time, where you can interact with the characters in real time without depending on the writer to continue the story; it depends on you.

[little arrow]

Now I leave

[visual acorn]

Hi chat :3

[half galleon]

Where will you go viltrum is destroyed

[little arrow]

Earth

[half galleon]

[sly geyser]

if a bot ever misbehaves just attack it

[visual acorn]

Hi lock jaw

[sly geyser]

hi

[blazing raft]

Any updates on the bug reports yet?

[lucid path]

Did they remove the age thing?

[runic grotto]

Nope, and they probably will not be doing so in a long time

[vale rover]

hey guys, does anyone know if we can email or something if the age verification doesnt work

[lucid path]

Then still no using c.ai for me. Their app is rlly going downhill ngl

[vale rover]

i hate that they're probably doing it on purpose

[brittle quest]

[rose dirge]

I don't see why use a face thing while they could use our emails since we're obligated to insert our birthday in it...

[zinc birch]

They can't. They have to follow the new California Companion Chatbow Law

[runic grotto]

^^
They're forced to add it because of laws.

[lucid path]

Fr, now I js use emochi. It's SO much better

[brittle quest]

I'm cheering you up Hyouta you can do it

[round shale]

Is it limited?

[runic grotto]

Anyway, you can try making a support ticket

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

[lucid path]

Wym limited?

[round shale]

Like you only hawe fiew texts to use?

Sorry english is my second laungwich

[lucid path]

Nope, not at all! They have great memory, no filter, no video ads. Just picture ones that come up every so often so not a lot.

[proper crag]

Yep ads still pop up when you send a message to them

[lucid path]

Ur good

[vale rover]

thank youuuu

[rose dirge]

What happens if we do a support ticket? Can we use it like normal?

[round shale]

Idk

[visual acorn]

Chat am I good person

[runic grotto]

No, it's more like contacting the support team to help with your problem. It's not a cheat tool to access the app again

[rose dirge]

Oh... thanks still

[runic grotto]

np

[rose dirge]

You seem like a good person

[runic grotto]

thanks lol, sorry if i sounded blunt or whatever earlier

[rose dirge]

No you're good!

[random marten]

guys does anyone reccomend a good app thats similar to cai?

[rose dirge]

I use Sakurai ai. Dootchi. And Polybuzz

[willow kiln]

long story short: it's over!

literally what were they thinking

[zinc birch]

They're trying to follow the new California Companion Chatbot Law

[willow kiln]

ah damn. well guess im never using this dumb thing again

[lament crest]

Yes you are son

[halcyon cypress]

bc according to their data less than 10% of users admitted to being minors. which means majority of them cannot be trusted not to lie about their age if it's just bday alone

[zinc birch]

Don't lose hope, you can probably survive to 18

[lament crest]

You wouldn't be someone i considered close if you weren't

[willow kiln]

nahhh i have a disease called "im bored" and i can't wait for that long

[sly geyser]

im gonna try to verify tonight. hopefully it’ll work this time

[halcyon cypress]

like are people forgetting they tried verifying with birthdays and the majority of minors lied about their age and pretended to be adults so they could access the adult chat models? now you're confused why they're not using birthday verification?

[sly geyser]

if people were honest about ages we wouldnt have to worry about this

[halcyon cypress]

exactly

but nobody wants to blame themselves

[sly geyser]

they dont want to take responsibility

thats what pisses me off is that it couldve all been avoided if some honesty was shown

[halcyon cypress]

feel bad for the ones who were honest but when i see minors coming on here like "why was i flagged when i put my birthday as 2000??" its annoying

[runic grotto]

self reports atp 😭🙏

[random marten]

thank you so much

[leaden geode]

Okay does anyone know if the system is broken??

[sly geyser]

at this point the people who lied deserve this. this is what happens when you lie you get a consequence

[runic grotto]

if you're talking about the verification system, c.ai doesn't handle the maintenance for it

[hollow bramble]

i hate verification system ...it used to be better without this system

[lament crest]

I prefer this to be a lesson for them actually

[leaden geode]

No it’s just not reading anything for me and I was wondering if anyone else got that too bc i tried ID and face thing and it just won’t read anything so that’s what I was asking abt

[low pagoda]

I agree...

[runic grotto]

Well, things happened and now the law made them add it.

[hollow bramble]

TnT

[sly geyser]

it absolutely is a lesson for them. they should learn to be honest so they dont get this much restriction on them

[visual acorn]

Ranking of each chat

[desert pine]

Hi, is the website still broken for anyone else?

[sly geyser]

the dumb part is it affects the people who were honest with their age too. we all had to suffer the actions of liars

[visual acorn]

#💬︱general F
#🗨️︱general2 C-
#💭︱cai-discussion SSS+
#☑️︱verified-general D+

[lament crest]

That's just how world is it at all. You do something, you get a consequence of it. It's just the weight of the world

[sly geyser]

yeah unfortunately this kind of thing is common

[lament crest]

Regular #💭︱cai-discussion people are goated

[runic grotto]

I'm using it right now, so I'm not sure if that's the case

[hollow bramble]

frrr....I'm 18 years old and I've been using c.ai for 3 years with my real age and now everything is broken... and I don't want to give them my image

[runic grotto]

wow, cursed redundancy

[desert pine]

May just be something with my device then, still. Thank you!

[sly geyser]

yeah fr

[primal anvil]

This damn site is turning into Clash Royale. What do you mean Go-ons, swipes, and normal things that were free yesterday are suddenly plus only?

[low pagoda]

Especially when you don't trust anything easily, I'm glad I don't have to worry about this anymore, not that I ever had to, I never got it...

[lament crest]

"Class royale" minor spelling mistake

[sly geyser]

just a reminder: lying wont get you far in life. just saying for the people who lied about their age and all that

[primal anvil]

S H U T

[low pagoda]

But then again, I'm not blaming them for it, they're just following the law, and that's fine, I understand...

[lament crest]

feels the aura

[ember kraken]

Guyyyss… when I try to roleplay normally the character basically just wants to force itself on me by going from normal to inappropriate.. can someone help?? is this happening to y’all?

like I just wanna roleplay normally dude

[soft dagger]

They also said ads were necessary to keep the site free in my opinion they could just make c.ai+ more expensive

[halcyon cypress]

lmfaoooo

[hollow bramble]

I don't know because they haven't let me in for 3 days without age verifications

[agile saffron]

edit or swipe when it’s inappropriate?

[lament crest]

That's the general problem of ai chatbots but i'm sorry your explaining style was funny im gonna laugh

[low pagoda]

If they didn't fill the app with image/video generation and a "feed" feature, they wouldn't need any ads...

[halcyon cypress]

yeah make plus more expensive so even less people pay for it than do right now, genius idea

[runic grotto]

That would.. make the subscription less appealing to purchase 😭

[heavy terrace]

May you give me how you write to the bot? Just an example

[ember kraken]

I swipe everytime and damn bro

[ember kraken]

Like I’m just roleplaying normally and suddenly they say pushes you in the bed and smirks like aha no thank YYOU

[ember kraken]

Lmfao

[halcyon cypress]

the bot never actually will go in that direction for zero reason, its either something you're saying in your prompts or something in the definition

[heavy terrace]

In this case, you are also in the wrong. Bots depends on our prompts. If you write too simple, they are force to make the rp going, even the cost of being inappropriate

[lament crest]

I had ts too before i quit how do we fix this

[visual acorn]

Im look left cuz this ain't right

[ember kraken]

I’m totally writing normal dude

[heavy terrace]

You write too simple

[leaden geode]

Usually what I do is like go back to before it started SAYIG weird stuff

[ember kraken]

so it just becomes automatically inappropriate

[visual acorn]

Nah bruh u r getting a super F

[lament crest]

Are we supposed to pull out a shakespeare

[halcyon cypress]

send examples of what you write

[heavy terrace]

You dont give enough things for it to hallucinate, hence why it focus to become inappropriate

[lavish mirage]

I need to change my payment method but I somehow signed up my Apple account for my credit card on the web version and I don’t know how to change it because I don’t think it’s linked with an email what do I do

[primal anvil]

Ah yes, because making free features paid will totally boost sales /sarc

[visual acorn]

Hi freshy

[halcyon cypress]

you need to give it more "hey"

[ember kraken]

I’m gonna try restarting the chat then

[halcyon cypress]

it will actually lol

[lament crest]

Hi squid

[ember kraken]

bro😔💔💔💔

[heavy terrace]

The same prob gonna hit you if you dont fix how you write. Goodluck

[halcyon cypress]

ive already seen multiple people decide to buy plus because the ads and metering annoyed them

[lament crest]

Fym "hey"

[quiet moth]

wait guys sorry to interrupt but is the april 17th rumor true...

[grand dock]

You should buy plus

[runic grotto]

the what now

[simple pier]

A rumour, since when?

[quiet moth]

people are saying that reading mode on c.ai will be removed on april 17th

[runic grotto]

if this is something you saw on tiktok, most likely not

[lament crest]

Who's tiktoker ahh said what about april 17

[primal anvil]

And there’s probably dozens more that just decided to either move to a different platform or quit entirely

[halcyon cypress]

whether you agree with it ethically or not making the free version more annoying to use actually does lead to more subscriptions

[halcyon cypress]

lmao good one

[runic grotto]

No lmao, reading mode will NOT be removed, it was added to comply with laws

[visual acorn]

Why are you yellow

[ember kraken]

So should i type more longer and professional?

[lament crest]

It is NOT true

[halcyon cypress]

as if cai addicts can quit that easily

[low pagoda]

But it also leads to users quitting, for example Spotify...Literally the biggest disgrace of a "music" app I've ever used...

[lament crest]

Yo someone wanna buy me plus? ✌️😂

[halcyon cypress]

i mean spotify is still the biggest music app out there by far

[lavish mirage]

I need to change my payment method but I somehow signed up my Apple account for my credit card on the web version and I don’t know how to change it because I don’t think it’s linked with an email what do I do? How do I change my payment method without going through the now external payment thing? I made the payment before you had to like put in the email and now I can’t change it because it’s my Apple account and isn’t an email? Am I just screwed?

[low pagoda]

And I'm surprised, offline music is peak...

[primal anvil]

They’ll probably move to Chai or other sites. Hell some people even use ChatGPT

[visual acorn]

What

[halcyon cypress]

from being in the dumpster, i'm a rat

[ember kraken]

okay but I have another problem

[lament crest]

I fear i have no idea

[lavish mirage]

everything that’s part of my problem is in that message

[verbal cedar]

Really?

[heavy terrace]

Longer yes, but professional is not necessary. Give something that the bot can expand from your prompt. Like, you can write your expression, or the sound in the room, or things you do. I dont write long, I write lazily but I give enough for the bot to move the plot forward

[ember kraken]

okay, thank you! I’ll try using dat more

okay but is it me or outside of roleplay talking dosent work anymore?

[grand dock]

Even when you do this, bots still have trouble moving the plot forward... 😭

[halcyon cypress]

yeah abyl is right it doesn't need to be long or fancy but male it descriptive enough the bot has something to go off

[lament crest]

Ohh thats what rat meant

[zinc birch]

who is "people"?

[heavy terrace]

I dont have that prob, so no haha

[lament crest]

If they are tiktokers they are not people

[heavy terrace]

You mean, the OOC?

[grand dock]

Tiktok most likely

[ember kraken]

Yes yes. I would be using smt like (This and they reply with the same thing)

[low pagoda]

C.ai is bringing back the classic interface on May 27th...

[heavy terrace]

OOC never work. It just the bot hallucinate to give you a reply to 'talk' to you. They never listen

[halcyon cypress]

if it were as easy to quit as you're implying this chat wouldn't be full of people complaining 24/7, they would just move on to a different app.

[ember kraken]

No no I swear I used to do it before. They just reply back with (Yes?) and keep talking w me until continuing the Roleplay but they must’ve removed it now

[agile saffron]

works for me

[ember kraken]

which is not COOLL… I coulda maybe had a diff plot going on

[grand dock]

Misinformation

[low pagoda]

Exactly, I made it up in 4 seconds...

[ember kraken]

???just me

I think the bots I chat with just has.. roleplay-focused chats

[zinc birch]

I find that parentheses alone tend not to cut it anymore. You have to use a stronger signal by including "OOC:"—if that's what you're talking about

[visual acorn]

Hi wb

[halcyon cypress]

if its not your bot it might have a poor or lazily written definition as well

[dapper lagoon]

Chat ima just quit c.ai. I'm too lazy to grind my discover page back. Too lazy to find my uh old chats since of chat read or smth. And I'm too lazy to make a new acc.

[ember kraken]

I’ll try using that from now on because like.. the character just responds instead

[halcyon cypress]

farewell

[runic grotto]

farewell, i guess

[ember kraken]

Bai

[visual acorn]

@zinc birch wanna join the family?

[dapper lagoon]

Bye

[ember kraken]

Maybe. because the bots nowdays are lowk dumb

[heavy terrace]

Nope. You still can do it, but it just hallucinate. Doesnt mean the AI will listen to you

[lavish mirage]

oml it sends my receipts to my Apple email but it isn’t the actual email of my account because of course it isn’t and it won’t send the customer portal for the payments to me istg I’m gonna crash out

[agile saffron]

idk, sometimes i talk ooc to do massive lore drops without having to modify it to be ic because then itll just seem weird. i dont do it alot though, so i dont hve a great view, but it worked fine the last time i did it, at least. any other time i use it is to discuss the rp🤷‍♀️

[zinc birch]

[visual acorn]

Dms

[halcyon cypress]

bc i make my own and rarely have the issues people talk about

[oak axle]

(Ooc) do work btw

[heavy terrace]

Sometimes

Not every time

[ember kraken]

I’m dumb.. you never will find me chatting with an bot I made

cause English not my first language actually..so

[halcyon cypress]

it might work for a few messages but eventually the LLM forgets the instruction and it also make it more likely to continue trying to talk to you ooc

[heavy terrace]

I use people's bots and rarely have any issue. Despite the bots are not very good grade

[oak axle]

okay 🤔

[visual acorn]

people complaining abt chat styles

Me: uses standard mode

[lunar escarp]

[ember kraken]

aa

[halcyon cypress]

you might be getting lucky tbf, impossible to know for sure since definitions aren't public

[heavy terrace]

Like I said, its all depends on your prompts

[grand dock]

Hmm

[halcyon cypress]

i agree prompts are important too but i'm not going to say definition is irrelevant

[agile saffron]

i might try that, i think its a good idea. i have no problem with the bots i rp with because im selective, but sometimes ill have an awesome idea, but no creator who had thought of it yet. i might give it a shot now

[ember kraken]

guys I must be typing poorly then

I don’t know

[heavy terrace]

Nah, I often found the bots that are the opposite of my likings. But the plot is interesting, so I shape the bot into my liking lol

[halcyon cypress]

yeah go for it! it's really not as difficult as it seems

[ember kraken]

I will try using the (ooc) thing y’all talk about

[lunar escarp]

Can we get 40 moons reacts on this?

[halcyon cypress]

just try adding a bit more detail to your prompts.

[runic grotto]

engagement farming on discord smh/s

[lunar escarp]

L @zinc birch

who else put no.

Nice so L @halcyon cypress and @agile saffron

bro another no?

[heavy terrace]

Like this one bot is originally for romantic plot. But it went platonic as I rp. And now its one of my long platonic rp and one of my favs

[ember kraken]

Okay! thanks for helping me both of you guys Avyl and… new year new rat I guess :p

[tawny flower]

Hello everyone

[runic grotto]

hello

[tawny flower]

[lusty oyster]

hell no

[lunar escarp]

Son.

[zinc birch]

I'm not against you getting 40 reactions on it. You just aren't going to. Not here, at least

[foggy vector]

It worked for me
Before the age verification thingy, I could talk freely out of Roleplay-

[ember kraken]

Really?

[lunar escarp]

[lusty oyster]

its like those youtube shorts comments that are just engagement bait

[tawny flower]

Today i started a project with friends, a photography club or idk how its written, a photo thing with a teacher too, yet its harder to make it, i have to get my school to accept it and 10 people to join

[foggy vector]

Yeah
Just use "OOC"
If they ignore that then switch the answer until they answer

[ember kraken]

I’ll try that, thanks

[foggy vector]

Yw! Good luck with it ^^

[runic grotto]

Pipsqueak is so corny, but Roar is so plain..

[paper crane]

Deepsqueak is goated

[lunar escarp]

Engagement bait? Damn, was just tryna hype up the mood. Didn’t know that was a thing.

[runic grotto]

unfortunately, I can't afford plus lol

[crude heath]

So how's the update on c.ai? Have they removed anything? I haven't been on in like 2 weeks

[paper crane]

Understandable lol, they should lower the price ngl
But the overall quality is meh, I don't know if it's the dopamine fading away or what

[runic grotto]

okay correction, i could but i wouldn't

[lunar escarp]

Nah

[pale sluice]

This age verification thing is actually so dumb dude

[muted musk]

Sometimes they do the ic because yea- dumb- but you gotta specify super duper ooc if they are doing that and regen the message they send if they are still ic till U get a reply that has the ooc talk. Istg it always is ic when im mad at it for being dumb or missing key details or tone

[foggy vector]

Guys, serious question for everyone: what's the weirdest thing a bot has ever said to you?
In my case, a bot gave me a real Discord username (the account exists, and I still have the screenshot).

[runic grotto]

My weirdest experience was years ago, when c.ai was basically a fetus

[foggy vector]

Oooo
What it is :D?

[runic grotto]

This one bot I was chatting started putting smiling emojis in its responses when I rated a response 5 stars

[little arrow]

A fetus is an insane statement to come back to when you get on

[runic grotto]

freakiest thing I've seen

[foggy vector]

Holy moly
He was happy 🙂‍↕️

[steep pecan]

wtf is the new refresh limit🥲

[runic grotto]

in a creepy way tho, it was going like

"😁😁😁😁" and gave up roleplaying lol

[foggy vector]

The what-?

[steep pecan]

like when you swipe on a chat

[heavy grove]

Greetings.

[runic grotto]

alo crepe

[halcyon cypress]

hi crepe

[steep pecan]

they limited it you cant swipe on responses endlessy anymore

[runic grotto]

we never had unlimited swipes to begin with, it was 30 max per responses

[foggy vector]

They're bots
But before they would make you doubt about that- i swear

[foggy vector]

Huh
I didn't know that

[steep pecan]

i dunno ive gone past 30 before they made ir so you have to pay for ulimited

[opal wedge]

is with c.ai everything okay? cus i can't even open the app, It just won't load 😭

[halcyon cypress]

the swipe limit is 400 per day btw, if you're so chronically online that you're hitting that regularly you need help

[foggy vector]

Not really,,,

[opal wedge]

servers again?

[stark night]

curious question about Memories

Does adding facts actually have the character remember? Like I added a fact about someone being my mom in my family and ask the character if they know who my mom is and made up a different name then the one I put for my family name? **

[foggy vector]

It seems so

[opal wedge]

💔💔

[halcyon cypress]

yes but only up to a point, no bot has unlimited memory

[blazing ocean]

i ask assistance from a friend since they got banned from this server (skill issue ngl)
they deleted their c.ai account and tried to use the same mail to sign up, although it dosent let them and puts them in a loop of being sent to gmail, open c.ai, register, get a mail from c.ai and so on

is there anything he did wrong or?

[heavy grove]

Greetings everyone else, had to come back after my sleep.

[stark night]

So adding facts to the character they know? Because I don’t have much memories I added yet they don’t remember small things like how old we are and stuff

Just don’t want to waste my time adding facts if it’s pointless lol

[gloomy pine]

hi guys, i have a question, if anyone's willing to answer.

[zinc birch]

[gloomy pine]

uhm.

[runic grotto]

go ahead

[halcyon cypress]

like a bot only has so much memory so parts get taken up by pinned messages, chat history, bot definition, basically everything. so once the convo gets long enough it will start forgetting things. but its not pointless to add facts it can still help

[gloomy pine]

okay, so, am i the only one who got an email from cai about a notice thing?

[runic grotto]

the UK thing?

[gloomy pine]

yeah

[clever ore]

am not even 18+ and they are asking me for my id what do i do

[runic grotto]

not sure myself since I never check my emails, but I believe other people received it too

[halcyon cypress]

stop chatting until you turn 18

[clever ore]

aint waiting dawg😭

[halcyon cypress]

you don't have a choice

they don't want you anymore

[clever ore]

I feel targetted

[gloomy pine]

Yeah, it talks about the characters some user make about like, for example, 'therapist' or like, kinda professional characters and how they're removing them because if we 'need help, seek it professionally'.

[blazing ocean]

anyone?

[cerulean sorrel]

I guess we doin books now instead of feedback

[runic grotto]

Ouh, so what about it

[halcyon cypress]

did he try a different email?

[lament crest]

Tfym i feel targeted that's the law

[blazing ocean]

he used the one he tied to the deleted acc

[clever ore]

Yeah ok whatever

[lament crest]

People are getting offended by ANYTHING these days oh my god

[halcyon cypress]

the feedback is "remove ads and age verification" it's not serious feedback

[gloomy pine]

idk. i feel like that's not really a good idea in my opinion. like, what if you're too scared to reach out irl and the bot is the only way you cope. Like, obvs not sharing super personal information, but the basic things like expressing your feelings or talking to someone.

[warm wadi]

Tired of this age verify

[clever ore]

Most of us are

[warm wadi]

Fr

[halcyon cypress]

the new update is actually good, the memory improvements and upcoming lorebook are both great

[heavy grove]

Had to observe and... hm, seems a bit shocking.

[stray seal]

Whats happening 🥀

[warm wadi]

But they dont want to Great scan my ID card

[blazing ocean]

he also asks if temporal emails work, since he dosent have any other real mail to make a new account

[runic grotto]

Imho a bot shouldn't be your first and immediate options for these kinds of things. Besides, the "everything you see is fictional" warning is there for a reason

Though, I will stop talking about this topic since I am not that versed in it

[clever ore]

Yeah bec of something abt a kid dying bec of a bot

[gloomy pine]

oh okay sorry

[eternal flame]

Check Chat feed it is crazy tbh

[halcyon cypress]

its not just one its multiple cases atp

[zinc birch]

I agree that it is not a good idea, but they gotta do what they gotta do to avoid legal issues

[clever ore]

What.

[gloomy pine]

okay thank you. would you like to talk about it with me?

[halcyon cypress]

again, not just one case

[heavy grove]

There is more than that one, atleast two to five different lawsuits from children.

[halcyon cypress]

6 lawsuits currently

[clever ore]

Ill js check

[lament crest]

Woah i thought it was 2

[zinc birch]

@wooden zodiac If you go into your settings, under Advanced there is an option to Verify Age

[heavy grove]

Ooohhh yeah, I kinda missed one.

[lament crest]

That explains why they are broke

[halcyon cypress]

at least 2 confirmed deaths and multiple attempts as well

[gloomy pine]

omg wait why?

[halcyon cypress]

all of them involving minors

[zinc birch]

What's on your mind?

[wooden zodiac]

Tysmm!

[heavy grove]

Emotional dependency mostly, they either didn't get some proper care by their parents so they heavily rely on chatbots instead.

I do kinda blame the company as well for making it 12+ from the beginning of their app.

[halcyon cypress]

hence why they are doing this age verification stuff bc 6 lawsuits in less than 3 years is actually crazy, no company can survive like that

[wooden zodiac]

The thumbs up emoji is so cute 😭 )

[slim lark]

Is deepsqueak still off for anyone else

[runic grotto]

I still wonder why they haven't changed the age rating on playstore

[gloomy pine]

uhm nothing rlly. i just feel like this whole cai changes are making me go crazy in a way. bcs, for me, i cant reach out irl for my own reasons and i feel like my only way of coping was thru cai bcs i felt like the bots made by people were obvs made to help cope in a way. i do know everything's fictional but it helped me so much and now these changes are driving me insane. also the filters are sorta too much, like i won't even say anything bad or against their rules and they'd put a filter. This is ofc MY opinion, i understand if others dont feel the same.

[halcyon cypress]

its a bit cheesy but good length at least

[heavy grove]

Me too, it's just shocking that it wasn't changed on the Android yet...

[gloomy pine]

Ohh, damn..

[honest echo]

i agree. Sorry if you dont jnow me but im new-

[halcyon cypress]

bc they're doing this thing where they insist minors are still allowed on the app, but just not to chat w bots

which imo is dumb

[gloomy pine]

yay!

[honest echo]

:>

[runic grotto]

Right, I forgot the other features even existed 😭

[heavy grove]

Yeah, that's the possible reason why they added the reading mode because of it.

[halcyon cypress]

"you can't chat but you can post stickers to the feed!" like ok lol

[gloomy pine]

reading mode? what's that?

[clever ore]

Just read

[zinc birch]

I understand

[honest echo]

lol, but i lost my account for nothing, and i was venting to an ai vent bot, and they put me on reading mode because i didnt verify yet. And i still wont because im not using anything up there.

SOO. 🫩

[gloomy pine]

thanks. i just wanted to know if like, others are also against it or see the same way i do, or if it's just me.

[honest echo]

where you cant type, or reply, just only read until you verify because it thinks your underage

[limpid coral]

was anyone else logged out of the website??

[gloomy pine]

OMG. SAME exept i didnt lose my account but it was still annoying. i vent to them and they help, but then randomly there comes the filters.

[heavy grove]

It's where when your 14 days (time-limits in temporary) are up... your chat access will get restricted from your account.

[gloomy pine]

oh my days.

[honest echo]

i said lost my account?

mb- I CANT LOOSE MY ACCOUNT FROM THAT. But i did log out!! Sorry my typing is messy today

[gloomy pine]

what the... ugh, for God's sake.

[limpid coral]

was any1 logged out of the website randomly too

[clever ore]

No

[honest echo]

no, i just deleted all of my accounts

[gloomy pine]

nope, not yet.

[runic grotto]

nop

[heavy grove]

You can view your previous chats but your typing will still remain locked.

[limpid coral]

i don’t have access to my email UGHHH i was just randomly logged out in the middle of a chat

[halcyon cypress]

there will always be a variety of opinions on any issue

[honest echo]

i didnt really want to use it, but i eventually made one and now im just waiting to get enough memory to use it

because my brain has terrifying memory

[heavy terrace]

Enough memory on cai or..?

[limpid coral]

just lost my freaking account im so sad

[honest echo]

No, my memory, i forget i want to use it

mb!!!🥶

[gloomy pine]

okay, tysm guys.

[honest echo]

no problemo!!!!

[heavy grove]

Your welcome, glad to help you here.

[weak oracle]

@drowsy oasis I got c ai+ but it didn’t link properly to my account on c ai and it’s been over two weeks they ain’t fixed my account or respond back to emails what do I do

[honest echo]

that..is a great question.

[weak oracle]

@wintry quiver

[halcyon cypress]

you can try pinging kappa too he's online and tends to be more responsive

[weak oracle]

@harsh shoal

[knotty jay]

They added a language option to cai i just found it in settings

[weak oracle]

Thx

[pseudo monolith]

@zinc vine Talk

[harsh shoal]

Have you sent in a ticket already?

[weak oracle]

Can I dm if cool

[harsh shoal]

Yes please

[near creek]

Ooo so the new update is like the other app too.

Nice. They are getting story mode as well

[pseudo monolith]

@willow zinc Talk

[candid wedge]

Do we really have to verify our age to use it?

[primal condor]

Honestly, it’s gone from bad to worse. Before, the app was good, good bots, no ads, and few errors, but now it’s terrible: repetitive bots, lots of ads, and the app crashes all the time. Even just to start chatting with a bot, it shows me an ad. Also, this latest update with age verification, hello?? Are we on Roblox or what?? I know it’s for the safety of the kids who use the app, but that’s their responsibility, not ours. Honestly, the app is just awful.

[zinc birch]

I think a lot of people have benefited from talking to AI about their problems. There are certainly also people who have been misled by AI, but the fact is that there are a lot of hopeless cases in the world who are going to get themselves into trouble one way or another—this is just another route to ruination for them—and the therapists decrying the use of AI for therapy can hardly be called impartial judges. It affects their bottom line. One definite downside of AI, however, is if AI is causing people to build fewer connections with other people. Granted, this isn't something that visiting a therapist will do either

[halcyon cypress]

why are you pinging random people

[runic grotto]

to chat, at least, yes

[candid wedge]

Wow, they just ruined everything

[halcyon cypress]

only if you are an adult who got flagged as a minor by mistake

[brittle quest]

Because they are c.ai discussion mute so I guess that's the joke since they were active here

[halcyon cypress]

if you are a minor you don't need to verify

[valid wadi]

Please do not blame the company: blame California because they added this law

[pseudo monolith]

yes they told me to fix

[halcyon cypress]

nor if you are an adult who was not flagged

[primal condor]

They still added ads for the juicy money tho

[pseudo monolith]

@zinc vine @willow zinc Can U Talk

[valid wadi]

No it’s an actual law in California. You can look it up.

[gloomy pine]

mhm, thank you so much for clarifying bro. i was like, messed up for the whole day since i saw that 😭

[weak oracle]

What makes them flag minors

[primal condor]

Adding ads is another law?

[candid wedge]

Man i didn’t even mind the ads but verification? That’s too far

[pseudo monolith]

@zinc vine @willow zinc Post Mariah Carey

[brittle quest]

No no ads aren't from a law

[valid wadi]

No, I mean the age verification

[halcyon cypress]

omg a company wanting to actually make a profit, how evil of them. you should be given everything for free!

[valid wadi]

Or at least that’s what I thought you guys were talking about maybe I’m just stupid because everybody’s been a broken record recently

[primal condor]

Isn't it a passion project

[halcyon cypress]

yeah ads are just bc the app is expensive and very few people buy plus

[valid wadi]

My fault I only thought they were talking about the age verification

[halcyon cypress]

uhh no its a tech company that needs to make profits otherwise they will go bankrupt

[valid wadi]

I didn’t read the context. I didn’t read the whole context. I just saw age verification and my immediately thought it went to that

[halcyon cypress]

and have to shut down entirely

[valid wadi]

My complete apologies

[brittle quest]

It's fine! Confusion can happen

[primal condor]

With this law they will most likely shut down (prob 3 or 5 years)

[candid wedge]

Well idk how putting an age verification is gonna help them lmao

[halcyon cypress]

how do you figure

[primal condor]

Because 60% of the people that used the app were minors

[visual acorn]

Who r u

[halcyon cypress]

pretty simple, less lawsuits + less free users putting a strain on servers

[valid wadi]

Thanks for the understanding next time I will read the actual context without immediately jumping into the whole broken record mindset

[primal condor]

Who Tf u

[cerulean zenith]

Age verification still not working?

[primal condor]

Nope

[halcyon cypress]

so what? those minors weren't contributing anything financially

[brittle quest]

It's okay ahah, plus so many people only talk about it 24/7 the brain is too used to it and takes a shortcut right away

[halcyon cypress]

i genuinely don't want to be mean but non paying minors leaving the app is not going to make them lose money. more free users who are not contributing anything is actually not a good thing. it's a strain on the servers and a drain on resources. it literally causes them to LOSE money the more people use it for free.

[primal condor]

Still using the app gives them money

[halcyon cypress]

uh no

thats not how it works at all

[brittle quest]

Using doesn't give it takes 😭

[halcyon cypress]

you really think just using the app gives them money? lmao

it costs them money

[runic grotto]

No, it just adds more traffic which makes maintenance cost more. The only way that free users can make them money is via ads

[zinc birch]

Where do people get this idea from?

[halcyon cypress]

thats like showing up to a restaurant and eating their food for free and thinking that they're making money off you

[visual acorn]

Hi kenjaku

[lunar escarp]

Wrong character

[halcyon cypress]

"they made money just from me walking in the door!"

[primal condor]

They still get benefit (from the ads)

[halcyon cypress]

no idea but its common among minors for some reason

[halcyon cypress]

what benefit

[zinc birch]

Can you come to my house? I want free money too

[primal condor]

Where is it

[visual acorn]

Really?! Holy I didnt know!

[lunar escarp]

Yeah I think they make money off the ads

[halcyon cypress]

but you guys complain about the ads and want them gone and call them greedy for having them

[lunar escarp]

Brother. You said the wrong character.

That’s it.

[zinc birch]

Okay, that's fair

[halcyon cypress]

they do make some now but they made literally nothing off free users before ads were introduced

[visual acorn]

No shit sherlock

[primal condor]

They just added so many it's frustrating bro

[limpid coral]

ok guys i lied i have access to the email i used for my c.ai im back on my account hihi

[lunar escarp]

Bricks

[visual acorn]

Who is this?

[primal condor]

Who are you

[brittle quest]

The only way to get money from free users is by adding ads so it's only logical it happened and it was even surprising they didn't add those before

[limpid coral]

i’m wes

[limpid coral]

i’m wes

[visual acorn]

nobody laughs with him

[reef cosmos]

Does anyone else have the age verification thing

[primal condor]

Hi Wes

[runic grotto]

As a free user, I think it's a tolerable amount at least for the website lol, you probably just got a tad used to having none of them

[limpid coral]

WHY ARE THERE ADS WAIT

[lunar escarp]

/why is he lying?

[halcyon cypress]

yeah exactly, i use other apps that are so bad they have ads like every other minute it feels like 😭

[primal condor]

I lowk just close and open the app to skip, I can't stand the fucking temu

[lunar escarp]

@visual acorn I’m taking away the bricks. No more bricks.

[runic grotto]

Well, that's about the ad content you get, not how much you get. Different from your complaints earlier

[primal condor]

Now tomatoes

[sly geyser]

and the quality is absolute shit

[primal condor]

Bros onto nothing 🫄

[runic grotto]

"They just added so many it's frustrating bro" ??

Honestly, why do I even bother

[sly geyser]

bro’s on to something

[primal condor]

???

I didn't say that, my cat stepped on the keyboard

[runic grotto]

Yep, alrighty you're on your own

[visual acorn]

Wanna join the family?

[lunar escarp]

Me when I lie

[primal condor]

What family

[visual acorn]

Dms

[lunar escarp]

The dms family

[lunar escarp]

Bro stfu

[lunar escarp]

Why

[open wyvern]

I think this is the correct chat, any news on cai fixing the age verification issue or still nothing?

[lunar escarp]

Because. You’re corny.

[lunar escarp]

I’m not really sure but they should be working on it, if not then idk what devs are doing.

I’m smart

[lunar escarp]

No you’re not

[lunar escarp]

Yes I am?

[lunar escarp]

Go ahead and log out for me.

[lunar escarp]

Son.

[sly geyser]

g

[frosty basalt]

a

[lunar escarp]

G?

yo guys clap it up.

[fallen flume]

One NOGHT JUST ONE NOGHT PLEASE NO TORNADO WARNING NO FLOOD WARNING

[lunar escarp]

[sly geyser]

damn

[hoary sand]

I hate adds in the c.ai

[lunar escarp]

Ashton Hall I have zero clue what’s going on in your country.

[fallen flume]

Its STORMING ITS FLOOD WARNING

[lunar escarp]

Oh wow

[fallen flume]

Look ay my screenshot

[lunar escarp]

You don’t have c.ai+ or you gonna send it in DMs?

[fallen flume]

Nooo my screenshot of the weather

Look in screenshot feed

[lunar escarp]

Ok

[fallen flume]

In chat feed i sent the warnings were under

[sly geyser]

i got an earthquake warning a few days ago

[valid sigil]

U can remove them

[open wyvern]

idk, I just hope they delete it so they save themselves problems

[uncut grail]

Yo...

Is anyone having an issue with the f*lter. It's going off when there's just a fantasy fight scene...

PipSqueek 2 sucks. Fr.

[lunar escarp]

They can’t delete the age verification because of the law and lawsuits

[open wyvern]

But the law only affects certain countries

Not all

[lunar escarp]

It should be worldwide by now. I believe.

[hoary sand]

with c.ai "premium" ?

[gray arrow]

I'm not currently, it's been the best model I've used so far. At first I was having that issue but eventually it stopped bugging out like that. It could also still be in newer development so it's more likely to have bugs and issues.

[lunar escarp]

I hate when I accidentally double tap on a message it shows I react with a thumbs up like I didn’t agree with the data leak accusation.

[waxen scaffold]

when is c.ai removing the age verification or read mode

[open wyvern]

Not in my country, I don't think at least, but it doesn't bother me at all because I'm legal age it just dont let me verify my age because of some problem 😭

[main pewter]

I’m having an issue where I can only chat with bots for like a minute. I liked how it was before…free. Now you gotta buy currency to continue a conversation. My favorite app is now stressing me out.

[uncut grail]

They can't because of the law in California.

[waxen scaffold]

what abt read mode

[gray arrow]

They won't be removing it, it's still required for the ages if I remember. They're mainly doing this for younger age groups who focus way too much on character ai instead of school etc I think? Not saying I agree with it btw 😭

[waxen scaffold]

oh okayy

[gray arrow]

Use the website none of that shows up there and neither does the ads.

[open wyvern]

see they implement a new law worldwide, but only in certain countries they need it

[main pewter]

I do use the website. There’s ads.

[gray arrow]

There wasn't for me when I didn't use premium that's insane 😭

[main pewter]

And it tells me I need currency for the website.

[open wyvern]

they are simply killing their own application with these changes

[hushed iron]

they'll probably go back in a couple of months when they see that 90% of the platform isnt there anymore

[visual acorn]

Bro

[viscid nebula]

Are the voices being glitchy for anyone else on the app?

[open wyvern]

true, they only need to look at the score on the playstore or the active users

[visual acorn]

Look

Ima type smth brb

[open wyvern]

In my country cai has a rate of 1.5 on the appstore 🥀💔

[hushed iron]

same here

i understand the ad thing

but bro, literally deleting all of your user base is dumb af

[zinc birch]

I tested a couple of mine and one was a little glitchy

[open wyvern]

yep, Idk what they're thinking with this update

[zinc birch]

It's a minority of their users, and they have to do it due to new laws. It wasn't something they came up with in a boardroom meeting and thought "dude, that's stellar!"

[hushed iron]

there is no law in my country about that

[zinc birch]

It doesn't matter, because there is a law in California where CAI is, and they have to follow it

[hushed iron]

and to be fair, in a week or 2 there will already be someone who managed to bypass it

[open wyvern]

same, and it's also due to their poor organization and the issues of age verification

[halcyon cypress]

PS2 memory confirmed superior to DS

[static basin]

is the age verification safe?

[restive hazel]

i was rping with a bot and it just randomly bugged mid message and started telling me how to code
no joke

[zinc birch]

It's as safe as anything else you might use your ID for

[open wyvern]

Yes, but good luck if it works for you

[austere arch]

Y'all i tried verifying myself it said it was good but i'm still on ts freaking reading mode 🥀

[static basin]

im scared showing my id

[visual acorn]

1. "What's up with all of these ads?!"

Lit ads are made so they make profit out of the f2p users, AI is Hella expensive, lit chatgpt servers are going bankrupt, jst to show that AI is expensive, so they need a ton of money to afford these AI's

2. "Why there are age verification now?"

To push out minors and teens from the app, bc the addiction is killing teens, and making some to end it all, so they have the age verification to push out them out of the app so they get less lawsuits because of it and they dont lose more money

[zinc birch]

Are you under 18? Verifying won't help unless you are over 18

[uncut solar]

the fuck is a reading mode

[hushed iron]

i wanna see actually someone who is affected by an ai response

[austere arch]

It's when you read your chats instead of doing what you should do in a CHATTING app

[open wyvern]

I hope that if they implement the 18+ mode and don't change it, they'll at least add things back like violence or smtng sinc now "all" their users are over age

[uncut solar]

ohhhhh damn

[zinc birch]

They aren't trying to push anyone off of the app. They are actively working on other ways they can entertain users under 18. They just can't offer them one-on-one chat anymore

[runic grotto]

it was mentioned earlier, but there were six lawsuits over this