💭︱cai-discussion

[magic forge]

My original account never got updated to have it for some reason, had to make an entirely new account just to try out the model

[tame marsh]

It chops my reply’s

[rancid fjord]

All the modes are poo lowk, I've used like all of them and none make an actual difference

[magic forge]

I don’t like it cause I feel pipsqueak makes characters extra clingy and overbearing compared to using or whatever the other one’s name was I was using before, I don’t pay much attention to the names.

[acoustic storm]

literally smt i noticed too thwyre all the same personality

[tame marsh]

I cried how clingy the characters were

[tranquil kestrel]

i don't quite like how much they seem to get jealous or shocked over the mildest things

[tame marsh]

I use soft launch personally

[rancid fjord]

omg this, they're so dramatic for like no reason

[frozen beacon]

this tbh. Discovered it in Feb 2023 and until like the end of 2023 it was absolutely peak (in retrospective)

[tame marsh]

My opinion Soft launch is the best unless it breaks

[acoustic storm]

cai was good until the app released

[tame marsh]

I had no cares for the app

[rancid fjord]

It went downhill immediately ever since they announced deleting the og site

[tame marsh]

You will not see me caring about it in 100 years

[tame marsh]

The og site was too plain for me looking back. I used to be a og site fan crying about it getting deleted but I see why now

[ripe shadow]

No reply for my question, ghosted everywhere 🫩🫩

[inner pewter]

Why are there so many spelling mistakes now 💔💔

[flint mist]

Speak yorichii

[ripe shadow]

[weary chasm]

how long have weekly quests been gone

[tame marsh]

It’s learning twin

[inner pewter]

Dear god

[ripe shadow]

Nvm I'm leaving

[flint mist]

Take me with you

[heavy wraith]

Because why not?

[acoustic storm]

ot was bad before that lwk but tjat was the last straw

[ripe shadow]

[rancid fjord]

As plain as the site was, I wish we went back to these times cuz there were no ads and the bots actually had SOME unique personality unlike now

[tame marsh]

At least the site doesn’t have ads unlike the app I have never cared for.

[flint mist]

I love when c.ai chatbots with a character who has avery serious personality goes "and then she says with a smirk on her face damn you idiot, you like that huh~?" Bro I just said your dress looks nice- AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AN ARMY GENERAL

[rancid fjord]

That damn smirk

[flint mist]

Don't for the "sly face"

[tame marsh]

Bro my character’s speak Brooklyn.
Now I have to use a Brooklyn translator

[flint mist]

And the ~

[tame marsh]

I hate the FUCKING “~”

[flint mist]

I used to like it but nah not anymore

[tame marsh]

I wanna pull my hair every time I saw it WAIT A DAMN SEC I AN A CUP I DONT HAVE HAIR

[tall quail]

Nuh uh I can tolerate short ads but wth is up with LONG ADS after every other response

My apologies for interrupting your shpeal

[tame marsh]

This is why I tell people the site needs more love

[delicate monolith]

I don't mind it tbh but it gets annoying pretty fast

[strange inlet]

🥺 im not sad

[tame marsh]

Nah it’s fine

Gang is this sticker hand drawn

[flint mist]

When the character personality is so inaccurate to the lore you just make your chatbot of that character

[pliant nebula]

that gif was depressing so 😭

[zinc birch]

It's drawn with tears

[rancid fjord]

Even making your own doesn't help at this point 💔 you gotta edit every single response

[acoustic storm]

yoire welcome for tbe bots

[tame marsh]

Idk bout yall but my bots are the way I want em

Waits for tomato’s to be thrown

[acoustic storm]

mine are butt either made by me or others theyre all tje same

plus idk if its jusy me but they dont go forward with the story by themselves

[flint mist]

Nah mine don't do that homie my descriptions details everything are at least 10k words

[dire berry]

If you're referring the definition, the AI doesn't acknowledge anything above 3.2k characters.

[kindred fossil]

Bro why am I getting ads WHILE im chatting 😭✌️

[delicate monolith]

Welcome to the club

[delicate monolith]

Vynre my twin frfr

[dark wren]

I wish I knew why they added it💔

[muted sierra]

Upper management.

[dark wren]

I asked why not who?

[muted sierra]

That’s why.

Upper-Management says do the thing so they do the thing.

[dark wren]

Really? I didn’t know that gng

[muted sierra]

It’s my subtle way of saying it was a stupid question, you know why.

(This is without getting into their investors and partnerships which add extra pressure.)

[flint mist]

daps up

Hey if you all ever give something to the chatbot and they take it as a msg not info just put "note: [what you wanna deliver]" for example i gave my oc's lore in * and the chatbot replied with "she listened carefully and said-" but it was nothing to listen it was just information but when I put "note: [lore]" seemed to work always and the chatbot took that as an input not a direct msg

[zinc birch]

Thanks, I haven't tried that approach before. Parentheses usually worked fine with Roar, but not so much with Pipsqueak, so I'll try that

[flint mist]

Np

[wise delta]

Pro tip, big preesh

[flint mist]

Feel like a vet atp

[devout crescent]

Anyone got any other free ai apps I can use instead of C.ai? I like using multiple apps so I can decide which ones I like the most

[strange inlet]

maybe dont recommend this on a servers full of minors

[devout crescent]

Never heard of, will try it if it works on Samsung phones

[devout crescent]

I am a minor, I'm 14

[strange inlet]

discussing alternatives is against the rules

[flint ridge]

Then can you fix this app?

[strange inlet]

girl i'm not a dev

[flint ridge]

I'm not a girl... But sure... Can you report atleast?

[strange inlet]

nothing i can do as a plus user

[white drift]

Hello

[wise verge]

Hi

[strange inlet]

they dont listen to us either sorry man

[white drift]

How are you ?

[half lotus]

hiiiiiii

[flint ridge]

Damn... Useless server then

[wise verge]

Interesting pfp

[wise verge]

Heyyy lovely

[half lotus]

how are youuuuuu

[flint ridge]

😂 😂 😂 Frr

[wise verge]

Doing mighty fine and you?

[white drift]

Hey

[half lotus]

everything's good! wasting time at work

[wise verge]

Hope the shift is almost over so you can go home and chill

[half lotus]

still 5 hours to go

well

4

[wise verge]

Aw 🙁

[white drift]

Me i do epileptic seizure so.. i dont go to Work before 3 days..

[half lotus]

but i got lunch break now so that's good

[white drift]

I hâte my life fort that-

[wise verge]

Enjoy your food!

[half lotus]

thanks lovely

[hot ridge]

Seems the chat styles are going back to normal

[errant crown]

Finish helping a friend with her editing. How's everyone doing today?

[fiery mauve]

is anyone struggling with quests

my quests aren't loading

[ashen lion]

Is it down for anyone else?

Like everytime I click a new chat it doesn’t load, just spins

[hot ridge]

working for me atm

[errant crown]

I think quests are still in production. The only one you can complete is the daily log in

[errant crown]

Mines working. If it's out, this place would be like a party

[fiery mauve]

ohhhh

[pliant nebula]

working, for me please check #📈︱status or see how fast the chat is going. you can usually tell.

[ashen lion]

It works now qwq

[pliant nebula]

yep! sometimes it's a bug so check status next time

[burnt cloud]

Is anyone else have a weird glitch where the chat bubble is done, you refresh it to be sure and the message just won’t send or is it just me?

[delicate monolith]

Yep that's a known bug

And then you load the message again and suddenly you have 2 messages

[unique creek]

Help fr

[mystic oxide]

it was working normally but now it's taking a lot to load a conversation

[burnt cloud]

The app is really going down hill… jeez.

[mystic oxide]

i'm on desktop now and it's loading forever

[tiny magnet]

mine is not working

[near prism]

Guys I've made like 4 accounts because I keep getting flagged as a minor and getting the "read only treatment" because I refuse to use my government ID. Anyone got any ideas to prevent this happening?

[odd crag]

have you tried to stop refusing to use your government ID?

[tiny magnet]

I used my ID . The government already hasn't

[hot ridge]

idk just stop acting like a minor on the site

[near prism]

How the hell do I stop acting like a minor then

[shadow kiln]

Hi there everyone,
I can't log in on website, it stuck... I am the only one ?

[near prism]

I dont trust persona, nor do I wish for an AI app to have my creditals.

[gleaming kraken]

Hey chat!! Is everyone else getting ads too?

[dry flume]

yallll use the website

[near creek]

Good morning.

[near prism]

Does anyone at all know how to "not act like a minor"?

[near creek]

Huh....

[dry flume]

what💔

[shadow kiln]

I use the website but I can't log in, it's not send me the mail bruh

[gleaming kraken]

😭😭

[dry flume]

use your phone number, it comes up on sms.

[near creek]

Is it like linked?

[gleaming kraken]

I use the website but I'm fine

[brittle quest]

Nah we don't know since people could try to cheat and bypass the whole thing

[shadow kiln]

So the app is working ?

[near prism]

I keep getting flagged as a minor so I've had to create 4 new accounts because I get the "read only" treatment. I dont want to use my government ID to verify my age.

[dry flume]

It’s working, but the website doesnt have any ads, so its better.

[near creek]

Are you a minor?

[near prism]

No

[shadow kiln]

I see

[gleaming kraken]

I have ads and I'm on the website

[dry flume]

is it saying you look like a minor?

[dry flume]

damn

[shadow kiln]

Yeah

[near prism]

No. They've updated it. You need a selfie and a government ID regardless

[dry flume]

can you show your ID instead?

[umbral forge]

I don't trust the ID scan shit

[near prism]

I dont trust persona with my ID.

[dry flume]

or just make a new account, thats what i done when the update came out, you don’t need to verify for a bew account.

[brittle quest]

They made four accounts lmao

[dry flume]

i don’t blame you. or you could jusy use the website

[near prism]

I made 4 accounts

[brittle quest]

Nah really unless they just go for the face scan/ID they can't do more

[dry flume]

yeah just use the website or go for another app tbf this is a scam

[near creek]

I didn't encounter something like that. Sorry if I can't help.

[shadow kiln]

No problem! Thanks for listening me : )

[near prism]

My country doesn't have many good ai apps available because we're useless

[dry flume]

could you use a vpn and connect to UK or USA?

[umbral forge]

I feel a lawsuit coming soon with the government ID and face scan thing. I have a feeling thares going to be a data breach or something

[near prism]

Doesn't work like that. You cant install an app not available in your country just because of a VPN

[dry flume]

theres a data breach for discord💔 cai is sooooo damn dodgy

[near creek]

Aight I'll go back to sleep. Good morning again people

[dry flume]

hmmmm okay, can you not just search something like “crushonai” on safari and just use it from there? or are you looking to download apps from the app store?

[delicate monolith]

Nooo

[umbral forge]

not everyone has safari

[near prism]

They should make it 16 +. Honestly, a huge portion of their content is viewed and created by teenagers.

[plucky pagoda]

is anyone else getting ads WHILE they chat to characters bru 😭

[near prism]

Apps. When I use websites it's so laggy

[median tartan]

Every 10 minutes of chatting

[umbral forge]

yeah, I could see that

[plucky pagoda]

whatt dude

[median tartan]

Yeh i have been counting cuz i was so tired of it 😭

[near prism]

When I was 16 its all my friends ever did lol.

[errant jewel]

Correct

[median tartan]

Like every 10mins more or less BAM u get an add

[plucky pagoda]

that makes me so mad they really want us to buy that c.ai plus 💔

[delicate monolith]

Yea exactly

[plucky pagoda]

i’m genuinely debating it now cause fym every 10 minutes

[umbral forge]

I think 16+ is a good age for c.ai because at 16 your smart enough to know everything is fake and it's a bot

[median tartan]

Or to quit atp

And its so anticlimactic too like 😭 lowkey breaks the mood

[arctic raven]

Hello guys, C.AI finally restored my moderated characters! I would tag Kapa to thank him for bumping my ticket further but, Kapa if you see this, genuinely...thanks for helping me

[hot ridge]

I'm glad you got them back

[full elk]

They should do a one time purchase to remove ads like $3.99. And can keep C.AI+ for extra perks like they should have since people are spending money monthly for more than just ad free. And also remove unnecessary features like the stickers, the ‘imagine a chat image’, posting to chat feed. All users really care about is the uninterrupted chats, the voice feature and the voice call. I dunno why they won’t hear us out :/

[arctic raven]

Thank you also for helping me last week with this, I'm genuinely HAPPY I GOT THEM BACK

[fallow fox]

These damn ads…💔

Also y’all fw the new PFP my friend made it while I was feeding my dog a wendys fry

[weak token]

Is anyone else having issues with the styles??? I’m getting short, incoherent answers from every single one

[hot ridge]

I'm happy to help!!

[subtle pagoda]

Whos still awake

🤔 hmmm.....no one here?.?

[tiny magnet]

I'm I am

[late vale]

I am

[tiny magnet]

I'm just dealing with a kid saying they were older.

[subtle pagoda]

...

[subtle pagoda]

Who

[tiny magnet]

I don't know, they said they were of the age and then now they're six

[subtle pagoda]

....

[subtle pagoda]

Hello there

[tiny magnet]

But on discord and also character AI

[subtle pagoda]

On cai?

[late vale]

Hi

[tiny magnet]

Yes, supposedly a six-year-old is on this server. And on the app

[deft magnet]

I just spent 20 charms on skipping slow mode and not only did it take my charms it also didnt skip slow mode. Why am I getting tax evaded?

[late vale]

Wow six years old?

[subtle pagoda]

..
Ahm

....I was going to ask
.about this slowmode

[tiny magnet]

That's what I'm saying, and then they said, I need to stop talking to strangers. Honey, you've been in my group for about 3 days now.

[subtle pagoda]

😐 wat?.??

[tiny magnet]

As soon as I mentioned, my boyfriend be an actor that's when they started. Doing that.

[subtle pagoda]

...so it's ur bf?

[late vale]

Who gave that baby a phone

[tiny magnet]

He's an actor and what I mentioned him and showed schedule.That's when they started doing that

[tiny magnet]

The thing is, they were typing in full English. No mistakes in big words too. So I'm like they're not 6.

[severe hatch]

[subtle pagoda]

🤧

[subtle pagoda]

...

[late vale]

Yeah obiviously, but that's quite weird

[subtle pagoda]

😑 y the chat stopped suddenly🙂

[full elk]

Sooooo he’s not six 😅 he was making a joke but it spiraled

[hard wind]

WHERE IS MY EGGY

[delicate monolith]

What happened

[tiny magnet]

Someone was saying they were 6 years old, and I was generally concerned for the server. They're in, but apparently they're not i got timed out for 5 minutes.

[full elk]

Gc

[delicate monolith]

Ghost is joking bru he jokes like that

[tiny magnet]

That's kind of something I don't like to joke about, though. I would generally concerned

[delicate monolith]

Yea but that's him he finds it fun and funny, what can we do

[delicate monolith]

Ghost DMed me he said something was going on

[full elk]

He made a gc with me and you, did you see it?

[delicate monolith]

Oh shi it was my alt account in there then, so nah I didn't see anything lol

I'll take a look hold up

[blazing mist]

Do these discord mods get paid at all

[weak grove]

So is it down again?

[blazing mist]

Wouldn’t be surprised

[tiny magnet]

They're not getting paid, and they are muting us for a few minutes at a time. Because of something we say

[weak grove]

Same tbh. I'm off writing some fanfics but I had a feeling it would be

[blazing mist]

Hey mods you should mute me if you’re evil and think I’m attractive

[tiny magnet]

No, I mean, literally, they muted me for 5 minutes for talking about someone pretending to be 6 years old.

[blazing mist]

So they don’t get paid and they’re forced to glaze a greed level only matched by EA

[tiny magnet]

They're not getting paid

[blazing mist]

That’s what I said

I’m convinced they do it to get free c.ai+

[weak grove]

Probably

[tiny magnet]

That's honestly what i'm thinking

[weak grove]

I was once strongly considering buying it... Feels sort of wasteful tbh

[blazing mist]

It would be even sadder if they still have to pay for it too

[hot ridge]

i dont think automod is a mod actively muting you for a few minutes at a time y'all...

you guys might overestimate how much mods care

[tiny magnet]

It's like that trend. Why do you join the marine Corp?

[blazing mist]

Also I used the website today and I think I was timed out from chatting with bots because of my ad yeeter

[tiny magnet]

I just got muted for 5 minutes

[weak grove]

-# I'd reply with the "this" emoji but alas, I cannot

[tiny magnet]

Mod's care, but they're doing it for free plus I can tell

[weak grove]

... I can ask my friends why they did it? They're sort of... Yeah

[tiny magnet]

You know that where they go around asking, why do you join the Marine Corps? I swear they're going around. Why did you win character? AI mods to get free AI privileges.

[blazing mist]

Bro that’s so sad like you’re just forced to power trip for someone else and they won’t even pay you 😭

[tiny magnet]

I don't even get paid for being around you here either

[whole wren]

Is anyone getting the problem where their messages just aren't sending? No matter how many times you refresh your chat, or click send, it just WON'T SEND AT ALL?

[blazing mist]

Are you on the website

[weak grove]

I think some of them are doing it voluntarily which is scary but understandable, I love scaring people

[tiny magnet]

Sam, why do you think we're here talking

[whole wren]

No

[molten ivy]

So... when are the ads gonns be fixed? 🫩

[still rain]

maybe just try restarting the website/app

[tiny magnet]

It's not a bug

[blazing mist]

It’s not a bug, ads shouldn’t appear as you type or as the bot generates a reply. They intentionally worded it like this so that ads could appear right as you hit a button before the bot can start generating

[chrome hatch]

Is the website better than the app? I used to use the website before the app was out but now they have soooo many ads for no reason

[tiny magnet]

The website is gonna be the same way

[blazing mist]

The website feels a bit low quality but it’s ad free

[molten ivy]

Yea, its for me like that too, its just hella laggy, and the botd take like too long to respond that i refresh and the messages ho away and a few more refreshes it just ghere as messare

[whole wren]

I have so many times it's driving me insane. I close the app, sit through three ads to get in, send maybe 3 messages then have to repeat

[blazing mist]

At least on the website you can have an ad yeeter

[tiny magnet]

I'm just gonna bust out my movie collection of supernatural. Watch that again, I rewatched it 20 times but whatever

[blazing mist]

I’m gonna bust out brawl stars soon

[molten ivy]

Yeah im typing or the bot responds and theres just ads, every 5-7 messages or sum, its rlly annoying atp

[whole wren]

They're doing this for more ad engagement. Every time us app users close the app we open it to another ad. Then we open chats to another ad. Then they play an ad after you send your first message.

[tiny magnet]

Thank you, mods. I appreciate you for not fixing the website and making me pay $200 for a movie collection.

[still rain]

i suggest using a dns to avoid ads

[blazing mist]

Again, the developers worded their response to say that “An ad should not appear as you’re typing or a bot is actively generating a reply”. Once you hit send, the bot is programmed to wait for an ad to play first

[tiny magnet]

You're making the ads pop up everywhere, so you'll pay for the plus

I'm honestly thinking about doing it.

[blazing mist]

Don’t

[whole wren]

Don't feed into it bro

[blazing mist]

Do not support the developers. They do not deserve a single cent

[whole wren]

Don't let them walk all over us AGAIN

[molten ivy]

So is that gonna disappear or just gonna dtay like that forever. Bc if it stays like that im changing to the web. And if the web gets horrible, im gettin rid of that app tbh.

[still rain]

works for me

[whole wren]

I'm looking for alternatives. As someone who's been here since Beta the devs have absolutely pushed me to my limit. This is disgusting amounts of greed

[molten ivy]

Whats that?

[blazing mist]

They’re permanent unless the CEO changes

Even then don’t get high hopes

[tiny magnet]

You're not going to find any alternatives. I'll tell you that much.There are all the same way

[blazing mist]

Yeah all the alternatives are just a cheap ChatGPT app

[whole wren]

Literally anything is better than an app the devs purposely break to get more ad engagement

[near creek]

What u mean no

[harsh thunder]

Hi guyssss

[molten ivy]

Okey now im pissed. Bc wdym theres ads MID chat , thats like ruining the whole experience wth. Cabt they find an other solution? Like idk 2 ads that are 15 sek or sum and one ad thats like a picture ad or sum. Bruh cuz chatting like this is just unbearable. U think theres MANY solutions to this. Tbh theyre ruining their own app and digging their own grave.

[near creek]

Hello

[chrome hatch]

Wait what did the devs do other than the expensive subscription and the ads (if they did)?

[chrome hatch]

IK IT PISSES ME OFF

[tiny magnet]

Honestly I got used to the ads

[molten ivy]

I just use 🌸 or 👨‍🔧

[still rain]

anti ads, people use it to avoid ads in apps/websites

[blazing mist]

They’re fully aware of that. Since you don’t give them money, they don’t want you on the app

[molten ivy]

May you.. give me that thing? Like how does it work, etc, is it an app? Website? Sry for adking questions, i never heard of it before

[blazing mist]

👨‍🔧 is terrible

[ashen bear]

I’ll always say this. If they didn’t want more ppl than they could handle, they shouldn’t have advertised so much over the years

[still rain]

private message me

[tiny magnet]

This is why I start to watch. Documentaries on earth, legends and finishing my journal.Because bad was going crazy

[still rain]

i cant send it here they keep timing me out😓

[molten ivy]

They cant expect the whole community to buy c.ai + THATS LIKE 100€ OR SUM. And still, the problems are gonna dtsy the same for US and for them its just more money..

Also, didnt they pist a tiktok saying their app will never be payed.. like cmon, dont make promises if you csnt keep it, just making your own reputation bad..

[whole wren]

The bare minimum they could do is up the fucking charm amount you get per day. It shouldn't take me 4 days to get a singular hour with no ads

[blazing mist]

They’re technically true about the app never being paid for. They’ll allow free users and then make it as hostile as possible for free users to have an enjoyable experience

[chrome hatch]

It won’t be payed but they’ll make it pretty damn annoying if you don’t

[molten ivy]

I joined the dc of sak and ja nnnnn idk its also weird. But both are not that good tbh

[blazing mist]

It’s called corporate enshittification and unless the user base as a whole does something, it’s here to stay

[ashen bear]

No point in being a + user if their features still suck

[tiny magnet]

I'm telling you now it used to creepypasta that you're gonna need it 1 day.

[molten ivy]

Yeah, i suppose. But i am NEVER buyin that cuz, im aware that im paying zo talk to bots better..? Like hello? Talking to ppl is free and yeah some other ai's are free too.. so whats the point? Lmao maybe the ai is slower or not good in memorys but like idc

[sly geyser]

it honestly feels like they’re fucking over the free users with mid chat ads to pressure us into buying cai+

[brave lily]

I might get into the sub once I get paid this Thursday.

[vernal oriole]

plus now with the ads being on the website (for me at least) :/

[golden mantle]

People were already against premium to begin with

[sly geyser]

rightfully so. it doesnt have anything worth 10 bucks a month

[golden mantle]

Because I wouldn't pay for 1 month free of no ads if the bots' replies aren't even worth it

[brave lily]

In a way, it’s either more ads or support them more so directly with the subscription. I already get that people don’t want to pay but it’s just a sticky situation expecting a free service to not make money off the free users.

[whole wren]

There's a difference between getting some ads and ads physically ruining the experience of the app

[golden mantle]

^^

[still rain]

a long ahh ads

[vernal oriole]

indeed, I was using the website an a ad pops up whenever I want to change characters or go to the home page :/

[sly geyser]

“non intrusive” what a load of shit btw

[brave lily]

They could’ve put the banner ads within the chats instead of the pop ups.

[golden mantle]

I'd rather have it outside, not inside chats

[brave lily]

At least with banners, it’s out of site out of mind despite it being unsightly.

[golden mantle]

True

[whole wren]

I miss ONE 15 second ad when I open a chat and THAT'S IT. Now I open the app and get a 30 second ad. Then I open my chat, there's another 2 20 second ads. Then I send a message and the second it sends A THIRD, 30 SECOND AD.

[vernal oriole]

they could have done something similar to what discord does with ads as well

[strange sentinel]

I don’t know about you guys, but I haven’t gotten a pop up today. Though, I might’ve just jinxed myself.

[brave lily]

Despite me not being a business man, I wish they could’ve done a better way to implement more ads into the service than how that currently did it.

[still rain]

you can use a dns to avoid ads if youre on android

[golden mantle]

What's a DNS

[strange mulch]

There's ads in c.ai now?

[brave lily]

Yes.

[strange mulch]

How does the ad work?

[golden mantle]

The usual

[whole wren]

No! You guys don't get it! I shouldn't have to use another product to make their product tolerable!

[tender rock]

Have been.

[brave lily]

The service, C.ai, shows an ad to us so the can make money off the free users so that c.ai can give us the service for free.

[tender rock]

They run pretty bad, I didn't want to get plus again but for the sake of ads... yeah.

[strange mulch]

How do ads work in chat?

[blazing mist]

Guys remember when mobile apps would charge a one time purchase of like 1.99 to remove ads? Me too

[golden mantle]

They appear randomly

[tender rock]

Or lifetime purchases for features.

[strange mulch]

Do they appear like ads on a mobile game?

[tender rock]

Yes.

[still rain]

i dont know the meaning but its like an anti ads, people use it on apps/websites to avoid ads and i think its built in your phone

[golden mantle]

Yes

You have to wait 20-30s just for that li'l x button

[strange mulch]

Is it a global thing now?

[tender rock]

And with banners on the top screen. CAN WE PLEASE REMOVE THIS SILLY COUNTDOWN?

[golden mantle]

I think so

[burnt cloud]

For real. I’m not paying $9.99 a month or $99.99 for a year. $100 should get me ad free for life.

[whole wren]

We shouldn't have to go to a whole new product to avoid the terribleness of another product. They make more than enough money making people pay for both c.ai+ AND making people pay for charms.

[strange mulch]

I never got them, most probably because I used adguard dns

[still rain]

i can teach you if you want

[tender rock]

It's insane how much I pay monthly for stuff nowadays.

[brave lily]

I personally understand why C.ai had to do it, especially knowing that millions of users use the site.

[tender rock]

And I'm hardly running on a budget.

[burnt cloud]

I’m not paying all that money especially if I’m trying to save up to move with my mom to Arizona.

I literally work at a Ben and Jerry’s, it’s winter time. I’m not making enough money to PAY for ad free experience:/

[whole wren]

Yeah millions of users, tons of people generating money by spending it on C.ai+ along with the people who don't want a monthly subscription and buy charms to get rid of ads instead

At this point it is nothing but corporate greed

[golden mantle]

They could've made their bots reply better to make it tolerable

[brave lily]

Free users out number the paying users by a whole lot, so it’s unrealistic to expect c.ai to just rely on the plus members.

[strange mulch]

I can see why they're doing it, the ram and hdd shortage has gotten everyone wildin'

[brave lily]

Its basically like saying everyone on Roblox should get free monthly robux because the paying Roblox users are paying for it.

[whole wren]

That's not at all comparable because Roblox isn't so riddled with ads that it's unplayable. C.AI is so riddled with ads they're making it unusable

[strange sentinel]

Not to mention the app is bugging.

[whole wren]

As well as the fact that you can play Roblox without Robux without your experience being shifted

[molten ivy]

I can now chat ads free dude me so happy

[strange sentinel]

Wait- Me too. But we shouldn’t be happy for long because they can come back.

[burnt cloud]

Someone send me the DNS stuff

[whole wren]

Robux isn't necessary for the player experience. C.AI+ is the only way to have a normal chat without it breaking.

[brave lily]

They still need to make money off of the free users. It’s mad unrealistic to expect the company to just try and profit off the paying users. If they were to do that, a whole lot more things could’ve been paywalled and the service would be closer to Chai is currently with the paywall.

[burnt cloud]

Pls and thank you

[still rain]

okay

[brave lily]

Either the paywall or they up the price to the plus subscription.

[burnt cloud]

Thank you

[golden mantle]

Has anyone noticed

Most of the time, when you argue with bots, they always take a step closer

[delicate monolith]

Sataa andagi

[burnt cloud]

Or when you shut a door they’ll say “{{User}} open this door..”

[brave lily]

Now don’t take me as defending c.ai and the ads because I genuinely don’t like them either, but they gotta make a profit regardless.

[still rain]

private message

[golden mantle]

Real

[whole wren]

They were profiting just fine with the ONE ad when you open the app. Not ads at all times. There is a permanent bar ad on top of my home page. I get an ad every time I open the app. Then another when I open a chat. And a third when I send a message. All within the same maybe 3 minutes. That's disgusting corporate greed. They're making more than enough profit.

[golden mantle]

🍿

[whole wren]

Defending their corporate greed isn't gonna help a single one of us. It's called holding corporations accountable when they promised no ads. Because I remember when they put all their money into ad campaigns that said they were "ad free". Look how long that lasted.

[brave lily]

If I’m reading it correctly, you’re seeing them as greedy because they’re using the ads on free users? I get that the ads are annoying, looking at YouTube, but they still have to profit off of you and I for being free users. Who knows, it’s possible that somewhere in the ai side of things are getting more and more expensive and they have to resort to things they didn’t want to do.

[whole wren]

Again shit comparison because at least YouTube pays people

[pliant nebula]

it's not cooperate greed, it's survival. and it's not defending, it's explanation. they wanted to keep away from ads as much as possible but as their userbase grows, so will the cost for their servers, LLMs, etc

[brave lily]

So what is a “fair” comparison? You’re giving no comparison.

[whole wren]

They're not keeping away from ads AT ALL. THAT'S the problem

[oblique citrus]

Can I know why character ai keeps deleting all my characters that I create?

[strange sentinel]

As much as we hate the ads, they have to make money somehow.

[whole wren]

They're making their app unusable

[pliant nebula]

they used to be 100% free of ads, but they realized they can't live off on just plus users. it takes arond 400k-500k just to run their servers alone, they need ads to keep running the program

[whole wren]

And their constant money related additions aren't enough? Ads when they are minimal are fine.

[vestal hill]

I'm not getting any ads and I'm a free user?

[pliant nebula]

it's bugged, because almost all of the free users should have been getting ads by now

[vestal hill]

Weird

[pliant nebula]

yep!

[whole wren]

They can have ads to make their money, but when you start prioritizing ads instead of user experience, THATS THE PROBLEM

[vestal hill]

Also character removals and moderations...

[pliant nebula]

they are not prioritizing ads instead of user experience. they have been prioritizing features instead of user experience, this is the difference. again, it's survival. they wouldn't be adding ads if they didn't need the money

[strange sentinel]

That can’t be denied, but they need to keep their servers running. If they don’t, they’ll shut down.

[whole wren]

Shut it the fuck down if we can't keep the promises that made the app

[severe hatch]

Oh!

[golden mantle]

Yo yo chill

[severe hatch]

This channel is so funny lmfao

[pliant nebula]

we've been begging. they aren't listening. also swears aren't necessary

[pliant nebula]

ROSE

[severe hatch]

LUCY

[golden mantle]

No need for swearing

[severe hatch]

Nah let him swear all the FUCK he wants RAAGHH

Jokes aside tho it's not that serious

💀

[whole wren]

My bad, it's my natural vocabulary and I didn't see a "no swearing rule"

[upper laurel]

Dude my app froze and half of my chat got deleted ??

[severe hatch]

How are you doinggg

[pliant nebula]

it's not a rule, but it makes you seem aggressive when it wasn't necessary

[pliant nebula]

have you tried to force close it and get back on>

[potent musk]

has anyone had the issue now that editing a message doesn’t save? i tried to refresh and it didn’t work, i literally rewrote such a long message and it didn’t save

[pliant nebula]

i'm doing well! how about you?

[upper laurel]

Yeah

[golden mantle]

I mean, technically, you're correct. But you come off pretty aggressive and disrespectful

[brave lily]

I’m gonna go to C.ai and steal a few GPUs and RAM.

[pliant nebula]

oh no! how about logging out and logging back in?

[hot ridge]

are we seriously getting like this over a swear

[upper laurel]

Heres what happened
I simply edited a message and half of my chat is gone

[severe hatch]

Oh boy

Here we go

[severe hatch]

Sick but well

😭

[pliant nebula]

NOO feel better soon girl 😭

[versed nest]

f

[upper laurel]

I can’t really do that since I don’t have my Gmail on my phone- and it take a ton of time to log back in
Ima retry to open it again tho

[brave lily]

Guys!!! Leon Kennedy

[whole wren]

It's more disrespectful to constantly lie to the people putting money in your pocket, then shove ad after ad in their face but pop the fuck off I guess

[pliant nebula]

oh no 😭 i think the only tip is to create a support ticket now since quick fixes aren't going to help. do you need a link or can you find it in pins?

[severe hatch]

Midchat ads are highkey insane tho like I don't disagree 😭

[brave lily]

Could’ve been banners imo.

[upper laurel]

I can find it dw but thanks for trying to help me out :’)

A bit sad that I wasted such long messages but eh I can write something even better

[obsidian ether]

the ads turned off my phone, idk how

[pliant nebula]

its okay! maybe the second one will turn out better

[golden mantle]

Okay okay

[frosty mirage]

Honestly, ads aren’t that annoying. But like, maybe they should space it out instead of spamming it every 5-10 minutes. I understand the need to keep the servers up, but the ads should be spaced out. Idk if I’m being unreasonable🥀

[pliant nebula]

i mean, they're still refining it. it would've been announced if it was permanent so we might not have this in the future

[sly geyser]

both banner and fullscreen ads is too much. just pick one or the other. and make it not in the middle of the chat

[pliant nebula]

it still sucks for you guys though, i hope they remove it soon.

[golden mantle]

It's reasonable. It's getting pretty intolerable

[severe hatch]

It was kinda confirmed tho 😭

Like in a "we don't want to actually tell you" way

[pliant nebula]

not the pop up ones 😭

[scenic wyvern]

They lied to our damn faces

[severe hatch]

Because while everyone was crashing out, mods were here and said that you're not supposed to get them while typing but they can still pop up in chat

So it was lowkey confirmed

[frosty mirage]

Yeah, I found that unfair. They should address this if it would be irritable to some users

[sly geyser]

they can put it in the announcements it wouldnt kill em to

[pliant nebula]

oh that's wild

[severe hatch]

"although they may appear in chat windows"

He basically said they are meant to be there just not while typing

[obsidian ether]

I genuinely starting to use cai on Google, no ads, no problem, just chill

[pliant nebula]

it's because it's site based, you are less likely to have them on the site

[frosty mirage]

I wish! It just feels so icky to use it after staying with the app for so long💔

[pliant nebula]

wait what 😭 doesn't may mean it's not set in stone tho

[whole wren]

AND THIS IS WHAT CAUSED ME TO BE SO AGGRESSIVELY! THEY ARE LYING TO OUR FACES AND YALL ARE DEFENDING IT!

[pliant nebula]

again, we are not definding it. we are explaining it to you. ykw nvm

[severe hatch]

I'm not saying it's set in stone, I'm just sayng he basically said it's intentional

It could always change but I doubt it

[brave lily]

Let’s shut down c.ai so it can make every addicted person go away and make the servers cheaper for c.ai.

[vernal oriole]

I get them on the site :(

[pliant nebula]

ahh okay that makes sense

their communication to us is always ass so we lowkey never know what they mean

[severe hatch]

Yes literally that 😭

And they LOVE phrasing things vaguely

[frosty mirage]

Right?? Users would be more understanding if we knew why. Like just tell us if you’re struggling financially

[severe hatch]

this is my biggest thing with it

[pliant nebula]

yeah, i said less likely which means that there's a portion of free users who are getting ads on site, but it's normal not to have them as normal as it is

[severe hatch]

I strongly believe it's cuz they are losing money faster than gaining it

[pine tinsel]

they're likely just greedy, not struggling. it's how corporations get after awhile

[severe hatch]

They must be going broke or some shit

[severe hatch]

Yeah but this is AI

[brave lily]

Especially know how expensive running ai services like c.ai can possibly be, especially with millions of users.

[upper laurel]

They are eating our rams

[severe hatch]

AI companies are almost entirely funded by investors, a lot of the big ones are expected to go bankrupt by 2027 BECAUSE of invenstors backing out

[potent raptor]

Ain't it kinda weird how other ai apps advertise on cai.

[brave lily]

And GPUs.

[pliant nebula]

LITERALLY. they are also never up to date with bugs unless they have a huge influx of reports for it which is my biggest issue with them

[vernal oriole]

I get them whenever I go to the home page or change characters, so ig good that when I'm chatting they don't show up?

[pine tinsel]

not enough people are buying c.ai+, so they're grabbing money a different way. i know a couple of apps that don't have ads and they're doing just fine

[severe hatch]

Including OpenAI

[frosty mirage]

Right? They glazed other ai apps. That’s why I believe they’re losing a lot of money😭

[upper laurel]

When talking about investors it reminds me of Roblox and wanting to please the investors
I know this was completely unrelated I’m sorry

[golden mantle]

I have come across multiple bugs that I can't even count them with my fingers

[severe hatch]

Always remember the size of it

[vagrant heath]

Speaking of which, i got one of those and it’s frozen.

[brave lily]

C.ai compared to other services like it is fairly larger than most.

[severe hatch]

Also I just want to clarify that I'm not defending them LOL, but you have to remember C.AI is like 5x bigger than most other AI services

[pliant nebula]

i think so, since it sounds like the ads feature for site is still trying to get on devices

[severe hatch]

You can't compare them

[hot ridge]

nah I think it's shit that c.ai are doing this and I want it removed tbh

[severe hatch]

I can almost bet you it's cuz they are going broke

[pine tinsel]

if they're bigger then they're making more money. they don't need to roll ad after ad with how huge they are.

[vernal oriole]

so like it's normal for the ads to be on the site? Cause like I was using it one day and it jumpscared me with an ad 😭

[severe hatch]

Investors are backing out

[frosty mirage]

Maybe we should push cai to be open with us first, I thinks that’s fair

[whole wren]

T H A N K Y O U

[pliant nebula]

right! i've reported multiple tickets, and the ones that get recgonize or only support related and no bug tickets, it's really annoying sometimes

[pliant nebula]

it is! a few portion ofpeople have ads on site

[severe hatch]

This is not at all how this works

LOL

Big company does not equal big money

[upper laurel]

Bigger = consume more money

[severe hatch]

Bigger means it takes MORE to run, not that it makes more

[brave lily]

But free users aren’t helping out financially, so they have to do something to make a profit. I don’t like there’s more ads, but it is what it is.

[bitter sun]

how do I get off of reading mode

[golden mantle]

That's not how it works

[upper laurel]

It’s like if I eat cereals with a big spoon I finish them fast

[pliant nebula]

you'd have to verify yourself if you are 18+

[frosty mirage]

I think that’s a age restriction think, idk

[vernal oriole]

oh phew, I thought I was going crazy. I wish the ads only stayed on the moblie app though cause like...it makes more sense. The way the ads are on the website is so bad 😭

[bitter sun]

it asked for government Id tho

[golden mantle]

Great comparison

[hot ridge]

My guess is c.ai kicked minors off of chatting and then people weren't changing bots often enough to give half decent ad revenue. Since that's more of a thing younger adults and minors do, so they changed how we get ads. But it fucking sucks lol

[upper laurel]

Im not giving any ID to verify if I had to lowk since i don’t want it to be given to government I don’t want it to go

[pliant nebula]

yeah that's fair! my guess is they are probably realizing they are losing more money than expected which why they couldn't leave them mobile only like the early days

[pine tinsel]

people have c.ai+, which makes them money, the downloads make them money, etc. the ads are fine to a DEGREE. mid chat is completely unnecessary and all it does is make people NOT want to use the app. banners, fine. before opening chats, fine. mid conversation every 15 chats is ridiculous.

[frosty mirage]

Idk about you, but you probably shouldn’t give confidential information to an ai app😭

[brave lily]

It’s quite possible that c.ai is having some financial problems and needs to make more money off free users. Does it suck? Obviously, but what can they realistically do to make money off of free users to keep the services as free as it is?

[vernal oriole]

Gah, I just wish I could get rid of the ads, like I feel i'm going to click on one by mistake cause of how sudden they pop up

[golden mantle]

Charms

[upper laurel]

I farm charms

[pliant nebula]

that's what age verification means? 😭 you need gov id to get out of reading mode because it needs to know if you're an adult

[spiral gale]

bruh so there now jumpscare ads???

[vernal oriole]

I don't use the moblie app, just the website and I don't think that's on there?

[bitter sun]

It's asking for the id which I don't have so idk what to do cuz I want to talk to my ai

[frosty mirage]

Omg yeah, I missed the x button so many times😭

[upper laurel]

Chat you gotta farm charms

[frosty mirage]

Lowkey, you’re so right

[severe hatch]

Okay, so here's what you need to understand

The majority of C.AI uses are FREE users, like, a huge majority. It's a free app so they also aren't making any money off of the installs because they aren't charging for that. Then you also have to rememebr that they're kicking minors off the app, so they are losing about 30% of free user revenue from ads

I agree with you though, mid conversation is bullshit

[upper laurel]

The most inefficient way is to log in every day (the way I do) and I used to do quest but idk where they’d go

They should do like Pinterest

[vernal oriole]

are charms on the website? Cause that would be a big help for me, someone who doesn't use the moblie app cause of ads 😭

[brave lily]

Guys, I’m lowkey thinking about getting PS+. Might go the highest tier because why not.

[severe hatch]

Not yet I don't think

[pliant nebula]

oh no!! i've done that lots of times. if you are just on site though, you should be fine the ads doesn't seem like it has a virus and if it does it would only go through your browser which a way to reset it would be restarting your computer. i wudln't freak out as much since you're just on site

[vernal oriole]

or even how like discord does their ads, that would be better

[frosty mirage]

You’re so right. I’m not fully against the ads either, I appreciate them trying to keep the app free at least. But yeah, ads SPAMMING midchat is overkill. Maybe one every 20-30 mins?

[pine tinsel]

and with all the mid chat ads, they're pushing people to BUY c.ai+, which will probably end up being the only way to use the app in 2 years. the cost of it will increase like spotify premium does every few months. i forget the other ai app, but it'll be basically free on the appstore but u have to pay to even use it

[upper laurel]

Every 20-30 min is great than every 15 seconds

[vernal oriole]

It's more annoying then anything -_-

[golden mantle]

There was a singing ad. The singing was so awful, I tried clicking the mute button… BUT IT WON'T WORK

[pine tinsel]

omg i got one like that yesterday

[pliant nebula]

ahh that makes much more sense! i mean, idk, my best advice to you is to just have a lot of patience with it. and i mean A LOT

[severe hatch]

This doesn't change any of the fact that they are running out of money now, fuck two years in the futue if they're broke, right?

[frosty mirage]

Honestly if they do continue on with the way they push out ads, I might lose my addiction faster😭

[bitter sun]

will it work if I asked a parent to do the government thing for me?

[upper laurel]

Also not to be rude but c.ai+ looks useless
The only useful thing looks like to be auto memory , anti ads and the chat colors

Not even wallpapers are good because you can’t upload ur own

[golden mantle]

Which is a win-win 😭😭😭

[pine tinsel]

and they'll lose people who even use it for free with all these ads is what i'm trying to say

[brave lily]

That’s what I’ve been thinking about as well. It’s quite possible that they’re bleeding money at the moment.

[severe hatch]

Literally this, most people are fine with the ads if it means keeping the app free and not p2w, it's just HOW they are doing it that's pissing everyone off

[upper laurel]

The rest looks like a feature we already have or doesn’t work

[potent raptor]

What they gonna do next? Charge us to edit?

[vagrant heath]

How. I get like only 5 every 24 hours.

[vernal oriole]

If they did ads like how discord does them, making them optional videos to watch to earn stuff, that would be way better

[pliant nebula]

there's paid models that are sometimes better than the free ones, and besides, you have no waitlist when there's a queue. its not completely useless

[severe hatch]

I'd be willing to bet you hundreds that that's exactly what's going on

[potent raptor]

We honestly need to interview the ceo

[upper laurel]

True you also got that
But for the paid model I’m not so sure cause I really like pipsqueak
IM SURE THE OTHER IS GREAT but I won’t use it much

[severe hatch]

Not really though. This doesn't solve the problem they are having if they are losing money lmfao

Discord is rich as hell bro

[pliant nebula]

yeah that's fair! i mean, you don't have to use the paid models when you buy plus and continue pipsqueak. i'm just saying there's more than what you think

[pliant timber]

Am acc so annoyed,I verified at the start but on reading mode!

[vernal oriole]

yeah but the ads can still be there without being a pain

[tropic olive]

Hey does anyone know if I can make it so it doesn't recommend me Sans character.??? I've never interacted with this fandom at all yet for some reason it's taking over my recommended characters..

[severe hatch]

Discord gets away with running ads on the side because it's not relying on investor money

though that will be changing soon

They're going public or whatever it's called

[upper laurel]

yeah dw dw i get it

I swear to god if I’m in DMs and I get ads about wattpad or some bs I’m gonna throw chairs

[hot ridge]

everyone's recommended gives them characters they don't like atp, idk if much can be done about it aside from submitting feedback tickets asking them to change it

[pine tinsel]

did yall see discord is gonna do age verification like roblox? same company too im pretty sure.. known for data leaks and shit🫩🫩

[quick moat]

Adds wouldn't bother me if they didn't crash my app amd cause me to lose paragraphs of sentences

[brave lily]

At least c.ai isn’t putting behind a paywall from the free users but it’s possible it might change if they’re bleeding money.

[golden mantle]

They keep showing me BL and GL

[tropic olive]

I personally think the ads aren't that big of a deal, I'm not on c.ai like alot alot but I use it .maybe a few hours every two days and they don't seem that bad. I just hate that I have to go to the appstore instead of just getting to click an X

[hot ridge]

yeah probably because that stuff is popular

[severe hatch]

Persona hasn't had any pesonal data leaks, the only leak they had was the front code leak that happened like a weak ago

[frosty mirage]

I actually do like pipsqueak, it’s descriptive for me. And has more creativity compared to the other ones (my opinion). But I wish the chats could be longer because sometimes they make it way too short, like no description and just dialogue. ALSO A MAJOR ONE: when I click the send button without typing anything, it acts like I said something, and it’s always negative too. Or chat repetition.

[potent raptor]

I love how the world is going insane and all we care about are ads on an ai lol

[severe hatch]

People care about multiple things at once, this just isn't the place to talk about those other things

💀

[pine tinsel]

really? i thought i heard they're using the same as roblox. unless they changed which ai they're gonna use

[tropic olive]

Ugh I hate when it does this. I've tried to avoid it by saying only reply as said character but still that takes up memory which is also annoying

[vernal oriole]

From what I know Persona is being really debated rn

[severe hatch]

Roblox itself has had data leaks if that's what you mean

[severe hatch]

This is gonna come out ruder than I intend, but what does this have to do with what I said 😭 I'm lost

[pine tinsel]

i HATE when it acts like i said smt like im gonna kill their grandma or smt.. like bro i just wanted u to continue..

[quick moat]

You need to make a pattern to make the longer.

I tend to take two chats i like and paster the second into it after a few times it will start retaining thr length

[potent raptor]

tbh I only use the app so I don't feel lonely. Social anxiety sucks

[pine tinsel]

the ai they used to verify age did too, im pretty sure

[frosty mirage]

I’ll try it, I get insane aura loss everytime it happens

[pine tinsel]

and when i'm bored😿 i'm homeschooled so it's kinda my only option..

[vernal oriole]

No worries, You said persona didn't have any data leaks, and from what I've heard (which isn't much) Persona is like being debated about rn online cause people think there's been data leaks and like other stuff.

[severe hatch]

I don't know what they use, I just know Pesona hasn't had any personal data leaks. The recent leak drama was because some wannabe hackers leaked the front end code and proved there was an open

now that doesn't mean there haven't been personal data leaks at all, but they aren't public at least

[quick moat]

The reacts to something that didn't happen, I delete and resend to try and stop it (sometimes it works)

[severe hatch]

OHH Yes I see what you mean now

[bitter sun]

cai id my therapy

[severe hatch]

Oh boy

[brave lily]

And, IIRC, big banks also use persona.

[ornate pewter]

I just got an innapr. Ad.
what was that.

[pine tinsel]

roblox DOES use persona, so the leaks could be on both persona and roblox. i think ive seen something about ids and faces being leaked from the age verifications on X

[frosty mirage]

What’s that?💔

[severe hatch]

Just report it and move on

[frosty mirage]

sorry I didn’t understand it, I’m slow asf😭

[pine tinsel]

but then again, it's X, which is basically facebook for teenagers..

[frosty mirage]

But yeah, I had an insanely nasty one when the midchat ads rolled out. I was so baffled.

[sour schooner]

Ads are now in chat WHAT??????

[brave lily]

Yes.

[pine tinsel]

late to the party😔

[sour schooner]

I wanna cry this is so shit ???

[brave lily]

Ai is expansive. At least the service is still free but it’s annoying af.

[sour schooner]

But mid chat thats really annoying

[brave lily]

Not denying that tbh, I wholeheartedly agree.

[shut marten]

I’ve had multiple about ‘don’t read in public’ and it’s a sx story or something

[frosty mirage]

I had one that has someone on their knees. You can’t see much but hair pulling from the side view. Traumatized.

[shut marten]

I think I’ve had that one

[frosty mirage]

I was so flabbergasted, I’m so glad they changed it so random mobile games

[shut marten]

I keep getting a mobile ad every so often that’s about 2 mins long and i cant skip it so i have to close app and re open it

[brave lily]

I still think they could’ve implemented the ads better. If they were gonna add midchat ads, they could’ve updated us and made the ads at least less annoying than the pop up ads.

I get it, they need to make money to survive as an AI service, but the ads could’ve been placed better.

[blazing mist]

I had a temu ad that was advertising bras. Let’s just say the target audience was NOT women

[subtle pagoda]

😑 wat time is it at your places.....still not asleep 🙂

[blazing mist]

17:22

[subtle pagoda]

Eve.....I c

[subtle pagoda]

Is this for ...real

[sinful jasper]

hey guys im new here , kinda nervous....

[sharp path]

Only for the app ithink

[subtle pagoda]

That pfp .....is it L

[sinful jasper]

yep

[sharp path]

I use the web on my PC and it gets no ads thoo heavily crashes

[sinful jasper]

it is

[subtle pagoda]

Hello there....I'm also new...not joined rn but recently 🙂

[brave lily]

I kinda want more headphones but the ones I got are already good enough.

[tropic geyser]

Hi! I’m interested in making a poll hopefully with a visual chart regarding the current issues with DeepSqueak performance.

It’ll be posted soon on the feedback section and everyone would be able to mark all the issues that they have been experiencing with the model.

The idea behind it is to post it across multiple platforms as a reference to be linked and referenced whenever someone makes a ticket about the model’s performance and hopefully show how urgent we want the model to be fix.

[vague stratus]

Please tell me it's temporary that I can only read my old chats and not chat unless I verify my age. Because if it's not temporary, I'll abandon c.ai after years of using it. This is too much.

[tropic geyser]

No, sorry dear. You’ll chats will be read-only until you age verify.

[hot ridge]

It would probably be better to verify your discord on c.ai and post in plus feedback, since more people use DS there, and have been discussing DS issues for months

[vague stratus]

I loved this app, but it can't force me to verify my age if I don't want to. I accepted the time limit, but I didn't accept the restrictions.

[tropic geyser]

Yeah I need to do that, I just joined the server this weekend, will do soon once I set up the poll and it’s ready to be shared. 🤍

[rugged tide]

Helloo, I'm wondering if the ads midchat is a bug or not 🤔

[deft jetty]

not a bug

[scenic onyx]

Heyyy, does anyone have a link to an interesting scene? I'm so tired of seeing the same damn scenes on the website 💔💔

[verbal tusk]

Hi i wanted to ask if i buy cai+ does that reset all my chats or do they stay?

[novel wind]

Same, especially since I don’t wanna show my ID when I have time to get it :/

[deft jetty]

Nothing changes, they stay exactly as you left them

[verbal tusk]

Alright appreciate you

[harsh olive]

Did the chat bubbles turn blue for anyone else 😭

[odd crag]

accessibility settings is your friend

[hot ridge]

https://character.ai/scene/94d1a4dd-06bc-44d9-bce9-e379644b97d1

[fickle canopy]

Also about the mid chat ads. I literally thought one of the devs said it was some sort of bug, plus they promised not to do mid-chat ads in the first place. 💀 absolutely awful they keep lying.

[hot ridge]

nobody has said it's a bug tbh

[severe hatch]

Wasn't a dev, it was a mod, and also I think it was the old CEO that said that

Still sucks tho yeah

[fickle canopy]

Ahh okay. I understand. And yeah it does suck

[tiny magnet]

No mine are still black and grey

[agile island]

I feel like every 5 chat a ad pops up

[agile mica]

Why is my dns not working anymore

[delicate monolith]

Nah it's not a bug

[strange sentinel]

Help, my swipes keep taking me back to my previous message.

[dusty flower]

I just hate that this whole situation was avoidable and can be very easily solved. C.ai is like that picture of SpongeBob in the big handcuffs.

[fiery magnet]

I think its like a theme, some kf them are free, there's blue and red

[scenic onyx]

Thankssss

[sly geyser]

they bout as greedy as mr krabs when he sold spongebob to the flying dutchman for 62 cents

[loud plume]

Permanent

[last sail]

I've seen a couple of people claim that it was a bug originally

[hot ridge]

nobody official ever called it a bug unfortunately. They just assumed Oatmilk telling people to submit tickets about it meant it was a bug

[last sail]

Oh yeah, I haven't seen any mods or anything call it a bug, I just remember someone fighting for their life in a different chat saying it was only a bug

[hot ridge]

They were doing it in here too 😭 I got jumped by like 6 people for sharing what a mod said about it

[spice fern]

Who jumpd you lemme at em.

[upper laurel]

Jumps you because you shared something that a mod said /j

[hot ridge]

dw about it lol

super unimportant

[spice fern]

Okie

[delicate monolith]

Copium changes people 😔

[weary valley]

Is it still ads?

[delicate monolith]

Yup

Unfortunately

[upper laurel]

[tender rock]

Always will be.

Corpo greed is a nasty thing.

[delicate monolith]

Indeed

[upper laurel]

Im lit fine with ads before entering a chat but im pissed off like many people for those middle goddamn ads

[upper laurel]

Even a pop up on my screen on my fyp or anywhere is fine but nothing around my chat

Hell turn my fyp into ads like Pinterest

[robust belfry]

devs won't listen, i doubt they'd notice if anyone stops feeding their greed lol

[tender rock]

Johnny's speechs fit in line with how life is right now.

A dang good written character.

[dusty flower]

I wish I could talk to a higher up and give them my solution

Okay I was gonna send the gif of Emmet saying you don’t have to be the bad guy but I guess I can’t

[deft jetty]

No one can

[strange sentinel]

I have a question, is anyone dealing with the swipes taking you back to your previous messages while the bot is typing a new response?

[winged lotus]

should be their new year’s resolution tbh

[robust belfry]

definitely should be

[winged lotus]

i want chat history back bro i had such good chats and now theyre all gone🫩🫩

[ornate pewter]

cant i just go back when the update was “calls”-and rewind button.

[dawn raft]

Guys i havn’t got any quests for charsm in 2 weeks anyone else?

[winged lotus]

cai lost all its aura after they removed chat history and added ads

[dawn raft]

Chat history is still there u have to be in chat and click that human profile thingy and you will see chat history its near typing bar

[ornate pewter]

I have hope they will fix ads because people are quitting and after they gain enough it goes back.

[winged lotus]

WAIT ACTUALLY

[dawn raft]

Yessss i wish i could send picture but i can’ttt

[winged lotus]

ITS OK I FOUND IT

[winged lotus]

can they abolish ads in all it was way better

[dawn raft]

Yayy🫶

[ornate pewter]

[tiny magnet]

its down again

[hot ridge]

it's up for me

[weary valley]

ABOLISH ADS

[ornate pewter]

What.

[tiny magnet]

Mine is down

[ornate pewter]

Not mine signs to fix the damn ads

[mental yew]

Æ

[twilit elm]

When Chai will remove the adds..

I'm tired

[olive vector]

WDYM THERE'S NO CHAT HISTORY ANYMORE???

[near creek]

Ig that's a different app

[olive vector]

wrong server buddy

[near creek]

WHAAAAAAT

[olive vector]

I'm genuinely confused like WHERE IT IS💔💔

[dusty flower]

They just need to remove all the features that put pressure on the servers. They should put a user poll down so we can decide what stays and goes.

[sly geyser]

they lost all their aura when they had the bots act braindead

[worthy star]

Have the ads changed guys?

[slate remnant]

Idk

[twilit elm]

no it's still the same, c.ai has a lot of ads

[junior badge]

Gooooood afternoon strangers!! ^•^

[marble flint]

I was there just now and haven't seen any add yet

[cinder mountain]

I just returned to Character.AI after a long pause...I wanted to update my character but it seems their an error every time I try to save or chat with him on my account.

[full elk]

Yes! Off the top of my head they can do a one time purchase to remove ads like $3.99. And can keep C.AI+ for extra perks like they should have since people are spending money monthly for more than just ad free!And can also remove unnecessary features like the stickers, the ‘imagine a chat image’, posting to chat feed. All users really care about is the uninterrupted chats, the voice feature and the voice call. The way it used to be!

[full elk]

I’ve heard it’s down rn :/

[dusty flower]

They definitely need to get rid of everything in labs and anything video/image generation

AND bring back gif covers

Also I miss the old UI’s and how if I’m bored with my recommended I can go on the different tags like Anime and see all the characters there. I dislike how it’s ALL recommended characters

[severe hatch]

This is interesting to me 😭

The imagine chat image is like one of the most used features I've seen

Yet I barely know anyone who does voice call

I think people need to understand that just because you don't use a feature doesn't mean it's useless, other people might, but I guess that's my hot take for the day

more of a lukewarm take if anything but yeah

[full elk]

Soooo i personally only care about uninterrupted chats and the voice feature. I’ve never used any of the others. As for the voice call, I’ve seen people use it on TikTok or whatever. I’m not saying the others are useless, I’m simply saying that they can take features away that aren’t as necessary. Like the stickers? 😭 it was cute and all when it first came out but is it needed now? Ya know?

[marble flint]

Frr

[severe hatch]

I do agree with you on stickers, idk why we have them LOL

[full elk]

I stand by the one time purchase to remove ads. And the C.Ai plus users should get the perks of the app since they’re paying. Now it’s more of an ad free thing for them and I feel bad for them ☹️

[marble flint]

I think the add's gone guys, I'm using now and none appeared till now

[severe hatch]

Tell me about it

[full elk]

👀

[full elk]

Don’t play with my feelings, D’arcy 😭

[marble flint]

I'll use a little more and I'll tell you if appear

[marble flint]

I SWEAR I'M CHATTING RN AND THERE'S NONE

[full elk]

GOD PLEASE 😭

[marble flint]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

I think the devs won't leave the ads up for long; ever since they appeared, the app has only received complaints and there's a lot of bugs too

They're not so poor that they can shove ads right into the middle of the chat.

It's literally like they're picking up crumbs

[full elk]

Let’s hope so! I hope they get the hint because I’ve been neglecting my husbands 😭 I haven’t chatted since I got the mid chat ads

[marble flint]

Bad news, it just appeared

[marble flint]

YEAH, I MISS MY HUSBANDS AND WIFES

This is ruining the app's dynamics.

[sly carbon]

i just saw someone say their bot got deleted for "using AI" 💔

[marble flint]

The hypocrisy

[near creek]

NOOO PLEASE. MY DRAFTS

[loud sail]

🥀

[sly carbon]

"HOW DARE YOU USE AI ON AN AI CHAT APP"

[loud sail]

me having the best roleplaying ever: this is so good
The bot: can I ask you something?
Me: this is not good

[marble flint]

Peak

[marble flint]

How dare you, unbelievable.

[brave lily]

I’m gonna steal everyone’s c.ai privileges and sell it to the homeless dude down the street.

[strange sentinel]

Just got my first ad of today. Maybe it’s slowing down?

[loud sail]

You guys have ads?

[keen siren]

Slow time :<

[strange sentinel]

Yeah. We all do.

[sly carbon]

not for me, every 2-5 minutes now

[loud sail]

I don't

[strange sentinel]

You’ll get them eventually.

[marble flint]

D'you have c.ai+???

[loud sail]

No

[marble flint]

This add's sucks

[marble flint]

Lucky you

I'm having to resort to using my PC to use it without ads

[lost tundra]

Im actually seeing ads in my sleep at this point help me

[simple remnant]

hey guys how yall doing

[lost tundra]

I feel like it got worse overnight

[simple remnant]

it did

[lost tundra]

I dont want to install brawl stars

[marble flint]

A nightmare

[loud sail]

Ads on dreams...

[lost tundra]

Oh BROTHER

[vestal forge]

surprise no ads for a few days now

what is going on i had ads, they playing w me wjth the old ui now this

[simple remnant]

sup im your brother😁

[sly carbon]

ur web doesnt have ads?...

[lost tundra]

Cai needs to chill with the ads id genuinely migrate if it wasnt for not as many bots being on other apps

[marble flint]

There are no ads on the websites

[sly carbon]

is for me

keep getting temu ads, one ad almost corrupted my device, another ad on mobile gave me a virus

[marble flint]

Oh no don't even joke about it

[sly carbon]

im not joking

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[marble flint]

The other apps sucks, there's just AI generated bots and the memory is awful

[lost tundra]

Uuuuuuuygggghhhh

[marble flint]

The devs are destroying the app in pursuit of moneyb

[dusty flower]

I’m gonna do everything in my power to make a change! Idk how effective I’ll be since I’m just a random dude but it’s worth a shot

[marble flint]

My saviour

[dusty flower]

I have a plan but I’ll need prep time and some major acting skills

[marble flint]

Tell us twin

[harsh prism]

hello, still have ads?

[marble flint]

Yes

[brave lily]

I’m gonna stick a fork in an outlet so I don’t have to go to work tomorrow.

[dusty flower]

Hear me out, I become one of those deep dive documentary YouTubers and I say I’m doing a video on c.ai, I’ll ask to interview mods and some people with power, hopefully a dev if I’m lucky. And maybe through interviews I can tell them my idea to fix the app

[marble flint]

Yeah you can try twin, I'll support you

[rotund haven]

erm is there a help channel or something /genq /lh

[marble flint]

I don't think so, just feedback

We are the help, y'know 💔 we ask eachother

[dusty flower]

Ima be honest I see imagine chat image as something we don’t need. I’ll just use chatgpt to generate me images, I think it does a better job anyway

[lost tundra]

Plus it’s probably putting alot of strain on the servers hence why its down so often

[marble flint]

Fr

[dusty flower]

Also the strain makes servers more expensive which is why we get so many ads

[rotund haven]

i’m having this issue on the website where i can’t see the first message of a bot and it won’t generate anything when i hit the send button, everything else works properly i haven’t been on this platform in a solid 2 years or so is there something i’m missing?

[marble flint]

Websites, especially on PC, are full of laggings and errors these days

It started last week

[brave lily]

I wonder would be a realistic way to fix the ad issue with C.ai while keeping the service as free as it is.

[severe hatch]

I mean it's super popular though

Epsecially considering they just added the new gallery feature

[eternal wadi]

cowabunga

[marble flint]

It's popular because it's just there existing 💔

[severe hatch]

what does this mean 😭

[dusty flower]

Frankly idk, that’s why I want the community feature removal poll so the majority decides whether it can stay or not

[marble flint]

Twin, no one uses that 😭😭

[severe hatch]

No but they do 💀

Especially plus users

We literally have a whole channel for it that is active almost all day

[rotund haven]

understandable is it the kind of thing where it’ll load if you wait or should i js come back later

[marble flint]

Try to reset the website, sometimes it works

[marble flint]

Didn't knew

[brave lily]

There should be a better, and feasible, way for c.ai to make more money without having to go into an adpocolypse.

[dusty flower]

Even if we did keep it, everything else related to image or video generation should be cut

[severe hatch]

Honestly I think y'all worrying abt the wrong things 🙏

The amount of features is really not an issue right now, it's the bugs they have that's the problem

[marble flint]

This app is the best for chatbots in my opinion; it's already hyped and successful, it didn't need ads to generate more revenue

[brave lily]

But it needs more revenue to remain free though.

[marble flint]

Not with ads 💔😭

[brave lily]

If it doesn’t make a revenue, it’ll face getting shut down.

[marble flint]

This is driving users away

[untold lagoon]

thats how they make money

the ads mid chat are bad. i would prefer banner ads.

[frigid gazelle]

When are we getting new chatting features..?

[severe hatch]

They clearly need more revenue and that's why they are adding more ads, it's just how they are doing it that's the problem

[marble flint]

Yeah same

[brave lily]

So what’s a realistic way for c.ai, as a company, to make money without having to use ads? I’m asking out of curiosity, not malice.

[cobalt pewter]

Mid ad chats aren't the way. The ads before we're fine and didn't bother the users. The banner was fine also. But they need to remove the mid ad chat

[severe hatch]

Mid chat is supid

[dusty flower]

No, unnecessary features are 100% a big issue. These things make the servers more expensive and buggy, then they pump more ads into the app. Unnecessary features are literally the cause for pretty much everything negative rn

[marble flint]

The ads while switching characters were tolerable, but doing them in mid-chat is awful

[severe hatch]

I have said this before but like

Y'all make it very hard for them to win 😭 If that makes sense

Community asks for more features, gets them, complains when there's too many features 💀 Like idek how to respond to that

[neon crescent]

the web version lowkey sucks ;-;

[brave lily]

I still think there should be tiered subscriptions. The cheapest could rid of ads while the highest tier, current c.ai+, is the “full package”.

[neon crescent]

or just make a "no ads" package \

[marble flint]

Just like Ghost have said

[brave lily]

That’s what just said. The cheapest could rid of ads.

[severe hatch]

This wouldn't work, current c.ai+ is getting shit 😭

[brave lily]

C.ai+ needs more perks as it is tbh.

[severe hatch]

They should just do a no ads payment and not a subscription

[brave lily]

Sounds fair tbh.

[severe hatch]

Honestly I don't think the majority of us even want new perks

[strange inlet]

[severe hatch]

We just want the shit we get to actually work

Don't get me started on Deepsqueak

[marble flint]

Hey

[iron grail]

Well at least I've only used the website and have never gotten a ad

[strange inlet]

arent there ads on web now

[severe hatch]

There have been for a while

[marble flint]

Oh hell, and pipsqueak

[strange inlet]

oops

[iron grail]

Idk never gotten one

[marble flint]

Same

[severe hatch]

Yes but the problem is, one of them is paid for and sucks worse than the free one 50% of the time

[neon crescent]

look at chat feed rq

[dusty flower]

Ima keep it a buck, idk who was begging for any of the things in c.AI labs rn

[severe hatch]

Getting on C.AI and using DS is a 50/50 gamble, it's either better than all the chat styles or worse than all the chat styles

[brave lily]

All I want is for c.ai to be able to make money without having to add more ads like they just did. Then again, at least they didn’t add some sort of paywall.

[severe hatch]

Isn't all that stuff for the kids 💀 or am I confusing it

Isn't the whole point of labs for the minors getting booted

[dusty flower]

I thought it was experimental feature

[neon crescent]

what about like 16 yrs and 15 yrs

[severe hatch]

16 and 15 are minors

What even is that question

😭

[strange inlet]

TEEN 😭

[neon crescent]

ik that but they're a bit older

[severe hatch]

That is a teenager

That is a MINOR

Period 😭

[neon crescent]

This is starting to sound kinda weird ngl

[strange inlet]

Doesn't matter if you think you're more mature than other 16 year olds 😭

[neon crescent]

take this talk out of context, like

[dusty flower]

All I’m saying is that we don’t need half the stuff we have right now and cutting them would be overall beneficial for everybody

[severe hatch]

If I had a nickel for every time a 16 year old came in here and said "but we're older and more mature!" i'd have enough to stop c.ai from these damn ads 💀

[strange inlet]

I know I wasn't mature at 16 idk what y'all are thinking

[neon crescent]

me: "what about like 16 yrs and 15 yrs"
! Rose

Role icon, c.ai+ (Crimson) — 9:15 PM
16 and 15 are minors
What even is that question
😭
Dr. MillieRole icon, c.ai+ (Rose) — 9:15 PM
TEEN 😭
me:
— 9:15 PM
ik that but they're a bit older
! Rose

Role icon, c.ai+ (Crimson) — 9:15 PM
That is a teenager
That is a MINOR
Period 😭

— 9:15 PM
This is starting to sound kinda weird ngl
Dr. MillieRole icon, c.ai+ (Rose) — 9:15 PM
Doesn't matter if you think you're more mature than other 16 year olds 😭
H3LL0

— 9:16 PM
take this talk out of context, like

[strange inlet]

What

[neon crescent]

definitely saving this in notes

[severe hatch]

Makes you look sus as hell yeah why

[heady parcel]

???

[strange inlet]

Yeah

[severe hatch]

LMFAO

[strange inlet]

That's on YOU

[severe hatch]

You're the only one who looks sus there

[strange inlet]

YOU took this out of context on purpose

[severe hatch]

💀

I'm screaming

[neon crescent]

im so gonna use this to make ppl think im weird

[strange inlet]

😭

[marble flint]

!!!

[brave lily]

Bro sus

[neon crescent]

speaking of, wheres my cat @placid cape

[brave lily]

Stealing penars

[strange inlet]

What

[delicate monolith]

Haven't seen him in a looong time

[neon crescent]

he owes me my money back

[delicate monolith]

He probably escaped the country by now

[neon crescent]

yk what? thats it, im buying cai+

[brave lily]

Not gonna lie, one upside about this ad update that it’s helping me ease out of using c.ai so much.

[neon crescent]

i cant DEAL with this anymore 😭

[delicate monolith]

I'll lowkey make you my twin and show you around the plus channel since I myself I'm new to it

[near creek]

Someone said the history chat is gone?

[neon crescent]

i cant, im not gonna convert

[delicate monolith]

No... You cannot be deadass

[severe hatch]

No it's not gone

[delicate monolith]

I have chats that are more than 3 years old...

[neon crescent]

like you. do NOT think i forgot you converted. Larry told me

[severe hatch]

You have to tap your personas pfp and then tap history

[dusty flower]

They want you to submit

[near creek]

Someone said. And I panicked too.

[neon crescent]

ayo pause..

[delicate monolith]

If they did that... I'm gonna say something not so nice...

[marble flint]

!!!

[strange inlet]

what happened to clicking around to find something

[severe hatch]

This is giving "I see red when I'm angry..."

Help

[dusty flower]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they did

[delicate monolith]

😡

[neon crescent]

when red see i, nut

[dusty flower]

When I see run, red.

[neon crescent]

bro job one had

[severe hatch]

@heavy dirge Like Idek anymore

[near creek]

Ikr. The random chat disappearing in my list is already triggering me. Now they take out that thing and I'm gonna throw hands

[severe hatch]

I just am speechless

😭

[delicate monolith]

I kick wood for fun boyyy don't mess with me...

🤬😡

[neon crescent]

WHO TF IS OATMILK

[near creek]

False alarm, darling

[unkempt ermine]

Is anyone else having issues getting onto the website? It’s not loading for me at all but every other tab I have works fine

[marble flint]

Oatmilk is peak

[dusty flower]

I eat paper for fun, we are not the same…😈

[neon crescent]

i punch trees for fun.. minecraft

[marble flint]

Lagging since last week

[near creek]

I'm not using the app anymore. And didn't got a chance to open the site, just till now

[delicate monolith]

Chill chill that's my twin