💭︱cai-discussion

[willow jolt]

Its inconsistent, it varies from person to person

[hot ridge]

The bot you're using plays a huge part in it too tbh

[willow jolt]

wdym

[hot ridge]

I used someone else's bot for a bit yesterday, and every chat style was giving repetition replies, repeating my prompts back to me, etc. Very likely a definition or example dialogue issue. When I switched back to my bot, the chat styles were actually replying with unique messages.

[vale rose]

Does anyone know where I go to report a fault with the app?

[willow jolt]

just curious what bot was it?

[hot ridge]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=16050152195355

[hot ridge]

That's not relevant tbh, I'm not gonna put a user on blast over a bad definition

[willow jolt]

are you reporting a bug?

[hot ridge]

But about 90% of popular bots under character search have poor definitions, because they were rushed.

Many also have blank definitions, which makes the LLM improvise poorly.

[pseudo egret]

did they fix the deleted bug yet i need my editing back🙏

[willow jolt]

I mean like was it action, adventure, like what was it, because the bot I am using is not meant for adventure/action, and I am trying to do action/adventure and its complete ass
(yes I am using pipsqueak chat style)

[vale rose]

Yeah, just reported it

[hot ridge]

Ohhh, the character Wolfwood from Trigun, so it's kinda like a wild west/desert planet adventure thing

Both my bot and that person's were the same character

[vale rose]

Is anyone having an issue with the mobile version of the app? When I go to edit my messages the app glitches and takes me back to my iPhone home screen

[willow jolt]

just curious but what bug are you expirencing?

[pseudo egret]

It's being "fixed"

[willow jolt]

I have the same problem except with chatgpt.

[vale rose]

Ah, so it’s not just me experiencing this issue then

[willow jolt]

wait what chat style did you use?

[pseudo egret]

no it's veen an issue for like a day or so now and i am gonna crash out bc i edit every message all the time bc the bots are not doing serious and angst shit man 🙏

[vale rose]

Haha, I get you. I’ve been experiencing the issue for a few days now and I was so worried it was my phone and not a app issue

[pseudo egret]

nah you good it's just gonna take a month or so for them to fix i swear😭

[vale rose]

Ugh. So annoying.

[hot ridge]

Roar. This is the quality I get as a reply. My character was a sniper hiding in a sand dune.

[pseudo egret]

is that pc? why does it look like that

[willow jolt]

I am using pipsqueak and I can't get it to be this detailed

[chrome viper]

Skill issue

[willow jolt]

how did you even get it detailed as roar. 😭

[forest wave]

Holly shi this is really detailed

on roar, im impressed

[wooden carbon]

The bot roleplay as my character

I can't stand this restarted app

[hot ridge]

Because Roar isn't actually bad, it's just that a lot of bots are bad lol

[zinc birch]

Roar is great for actually following what is written in the bot

[hot ridge]

Some chat styles just make it very obvious that the bot is poorly made unfortunately, and Roar is one of them

[wooden carbon]

Is it just me or the bots roleplay as your own character?

If so how can I fix it?

[zinc birch]

Basically, if the AI gets the idea that it can write for your part, then it will, so you need to make sure nothing gives it that idea. It might anyway, but you can improve your odds

[wooden carbon]

I see

[zinc birch]

What chiefly gives it the idea is history. This includes what's in the Greeting and the example messages

[hot ridge]

Adding to what wb said, also make sure your persona doesn't share a name starting with the same letter, or the last name as the bot

[wooden carbon]

I'm using a mha bot

[hot ridge]

I had a persona named Miguel and was talking to a bot named Mateo and it kept getting confused

[zinc birch]

Yeah, I generally try to give each character a name that starts with a different letter to improve my odds

[wooden carbon]

Ah okay then thanks

[willow jolt]

I mean it was the best chat style before pipsqueak was made.

I think I could be wrong

[willow jolt]

yeah Ig I am pretty sure it depends on the boat.

[gleaming wyvern]

jw is anyone having an issue with messages getting censored for very minor things? it just started happening for me like a couple hours ago

[hot ridge]

Do you have the ability to edit messages? It's possible you were flagged as a minor

[willow jolt]

you mean like getting filtered?

[gleaming wyvern]

yeah i do, idk why it's doing it all of a sudden

[gleaming wyvern]

yeah

[eternal quest]

Guys does Goro work?

[willow jolt]

well like @hot ridge said maybe you got flagged as a minor

[hot ridge]

mm. If they can edit I doubt it

honestly it might be a classic case of the filter just... tweaking

[gleaming wyvern]

kinda what i'm thinking too lol thank you!

[willow jolt]

Wait what does Verifying your age even do?

Just curious.

[carmine lotus]

You’ll still be able to chat when all of the minors are banned from chatting if you’re verified

[timber canopy]

WHAT

😭

[willow jolt]

do you still get filtered if you verify your age?

[carmine lotus]

Indeed

[willow jolt]

thats fucking stupid, whats the point of verifying your age if your still going to get filtered 😭

seems to me verifying doesn't do antyhing I just verified my age I don't see a diffirence.

[timber canopy]

im pretty sure if you verify the website they use to verify steals ur data

[willow jolt]

How do you know this??? 💀

[timber canopy]

multiple people have said it

and plus someone said persona got sued

[carmine lotus]

That’s misinformation, lol

They delete your selfie after 24 hours, and I think someone said that your ID is deleted after a week or something like that

[carmine lotus]

It just makes you not have a timer or anything if you’re flagged as a minor. So you now won’t get given a 1 hour time limit and will still have full access to cai

[willow jolt]

timer for what tho, chatting?

[clever hawk]

Yes sometimes you have to wait 2 hours before you can talk to them again other times 20 hours

[carmine lotus]

Yeah. So if you’re flagged as a minor, you’re given a 1 hour time limit to chat every 16 hours I think? That’s what I’ve seen so far

[willow jolt]

nah I think they use a third-party provider (like Persona) to verify your age from the selfie, then deleted after 30 days I think

[willow jolt]

never happened to me, even tho my account was under 18

how do they actually verify for your age tho

[hot ridge]

They are removing the ability to chat for minors, that's the core of it

[carmine lotus]

I truly have no idea. I luckily passed the selfie because I’m an adult. It just recognises your age, I suppose. Advanced technology

[willow jolt]

so after they verify you, how do you know passed? Will they send you an email or some shit?

[native eagle]

there will be a pop-up

[willow jolt]

Why? Is it because of said incident?

[native eagle]

you will know if you have to verify

[carmine lotus]

This pops up, as Sumire said

[hot ridge]

California law is making all of these AI tech companies implement age verification if they're located in Cali

[willow jolt]

I live in 🇨🇦 so idk if that applies to me or not, wby?

[clever hawk]

It does

[hot ridge]

It does, because the company is located in Cali

[willow jolt]

just like that its verified wtf are they even doing, pulling up your documents or some shit?

[carmine lotus]

No lol

It was just a selfie

[native eagle]

they're releasing it globally but not immediately, in november a lot of people in the US were affected

[carmine lotus]

I had to turn my head left and right and then it verified me because I’m an adult

[native eagle]

some people aren't given the selfie option though, which is weird.

[hot ridge]

Most people won't even get flagged, I wouldn't worry about it. They only flag people who sound like a minor, to catch people who are lying about their age on adult accounts.

[native eagle]

I didn't get the pop-up yet but I'm not worried about it since I have an adult account and don't mind showing my ID either way

[willow jolt]

what if your in a different country does it still count?

[sturdy sigil]

Can anyone tell me why the persona thing can’t scan my id for some reason? I tried some poses for a better view but then it just said no

[hot ridge]

Yes. Because the company is located in California. They have to comply

[willow jolt]

I mean it just told me to look at the center, then turn right then left, and then it said, I was verified but idk how it even determines your 18.

[sturdy sigil]

Bro I’m in Vietnam and i bet the ai can’t read shi about my id

Thats why mine won’t working

[hot ridge]

Again, most people won't even be flagged

[carmine lotus]

It’s just advanced technology. It’s nothing scary, I promise! It’s just what that company does

[willow jolt]

huh, well Im not getting a time limit, so or getting flagged

[native eagle]

if your set birthdate shows you're an adult, and you still have the edit button and soft launch, then I think the chances are very slim. I don't know how their detection works to determine who gets flagged or not though

[willow jolt]

So the government is not stealing your data or anything like that, like they no giving it to other goverments or companies?

[carmine lotus]

I wasn’t flagged and probably wouldn’t have been. I just decided to verify, you know?

[sturdy sigil]

Are they determine the user age by their grammar?

[carmine lotus]

Nope! And I got these for you

[native eagle]

I would too but I don't even have the option to yet! gotta wait

[carmine lotus]

Oh no! Well, it’s hit the US, UK, Canada, and I think some parts of the EU now. So hopefully it’ll roll out to you soon

[native eagle]

I mean, possibly, I would love to know too because a friend of mine has been really paranoid about getting flagged as she's not comfortable showing her ID

[sturdy sigil]

Same, but I’m comfortable enough to show my id but the persona cant scan my id for some reason

[velvet marsh]

is the memory cap still 3200 or did they up it?

[willow jolt]

is it deleted after, or do they keep it part of their data?

[velvet marsh]

I'am not sure so I ask first.

[sturdy sigil]

Probably keep

[hot ridge]

They delete the info after

[willow jolt]

I looked it up and so far no, it doesn't cahnge the user by their grammer so I think you should be good bro

[willow jolt]

How do you know that?

wait I am confused do they keep or delete?

[hot ridge]

the only official info is that they detemine it by site activity

[mortal dove]

Did I get flagged as a minor because why did the chat “break” go from 2 hours to 15????

[carmine lotus]

They don’t keep it, lol

[zinc birch]

If you already had an enforced break then you were already flagged

[mortal dove]

Bruh

[sturdy sigil]

Oh alr

[vernal dune]

C.ai should really really learn to not try to play the narration of the user bc not only it's completely bs but it's also break the fun of the narration when you're supposed to be the narrator

[sturdy sigil]

I get flagged and I’m doing the id check rn but it keep saying that make sure that it can read the id (I’m using my home country id)

[hot ridge]

Any AI service will do this if your prompts lead it to tbh

[vernal dune]

But that's boring

[hot ridge]

what?

[young scarab]

what the heck is this c.ai update vro 💔

[vernal dune]

It's would be more fun if you have an option to allow the bot to speak for yourself

[hot ridge]

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I recommend reading these two posts

[willow jolt]

it can't read other languages?

[silk comet]

I would love a toggle mode to turn off the dang swipe to close a chat because when I’m trying to highlight and cut something to move it and it closes me from the chat I stg I will scream if it does it again.

I cannot stand that it’s any part of the screen anywhere when going from left to right. I’m left handed!

[vernal dune]

I see thx though it's still boring

[sturdy sigil]

Probably because I take the picture very clean and bright but it won’t work for some reason

[hot ridge]

It's partially your fault if it's happening... you're boring yourself.

[meager citrus]

Hey guys anyone having that booting issue ?

[carmine lotus]

Yup. Your prompts control the bots responses. It’s taking over because it feels like you’re not doing enough

[zinc birch]

maybe if you act odd enough then the AI won't know how to write your part and give up 🤔

[sturdy sigil]

Maybe the persona can only read English?

[zinc birch]

I think they only have verification in the US and UK right now. Maybe Canada

[hot ridge]

I've seen Canada, Australia, New Zealand too

[carmine lotus]

It can read foreign IDs

[willow jolt]

probably

[willow jolt]

what home country are you using for id?

[zinc birch]

Is it a real country? /j

[sturdy sigil]

Vietnam

[timber canopy]

in canada yeah

[sturdy sigil]

But it keep saying to make sure it can read the id even there’s no blur when I take picture

[carmine lotus]

IDs can be tricky. I couldn’t open a bank account online because it couldn’t recognise my UK drivers licence

[sturdy sigil]

Well that sucks

[carmine lotus]

Try a change of lighting, background behind the ID, maybe another light if possible that isn’t reflecting off of your ID but is brightening it

[willow jolt]

then idk if it can read it then.

[sturdy sigil]

After like 3 times, it won’t working, Am i missing something? Do I need a US id?

[regal ruin]

if I get asked to verify, I will via passport. It's not that deep.

[vernal dune]

Bro I swear I just tried a scene relaxation in the bot, that dumbass show me something like comming straight up like an sado adult rated game

[regal ruin]

I can't do the face scan since I look 13 though I'm 19 soon, so I'll use an actual ID.

[cobalt walrus]

Idk if it's true or not but I just saw that

[vernal dune]

How do you want me to be skeptical about having the bot writing my narration

[spark zephyr]

im actually gonna go insane from the can i ask you a question thing

[sweet falcon]

Is the verification only available in the US still? Not that I’ve been asked to verify yet, just curious

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, there's a post on reddit about it in details, and it's effectively a real thing.

[supple fiber]

Hlo gng

[dire berry]

Who doesn't? But you can actually minimize the chances of bots getting stuck in that loop. Give them something to work with. They usually resort to 'CIAYAQ' because they're looking for ways to keep the conversation going.

[robust talon]

Why the hell did C.ai do that hour or more break thing, I was using it last night AND GOT 21 HOURS, THERE'S STILL 13 HOURS LEFT

[hidden pebble]

AAAAA

[zinc birch]

They are gradually phasing out chat for users under 18

[hidden pebble]

I SPECIFICALLY TOLD THE BOT TO NOT CALL ME RECKLESS

[robust talon]

It's very annoying

[hidden pebble]

AND IT CALLED ME FUCKEN' RECKLESS

[full elk]

Why did they remove the option to edit messages? 🥀🥀🥀

[hidden pebble]

EEEEEEE

[zinc birch]

at least it didn't call you reckless

[pulsar cedar]

You've been flagged as a minor.

[robust talon]

💔

C.ai sucks now

[full elk]

.

[scenic socket]

lemme guess you're 14-17

[full elk]

I understand about the break thing (almost) but I don't understand why they removed the edit button(?)

[robust talon]

I won't say due to privacy reasons

[full elk]

I mean, I don't know what that has to do with anything? Just the edit button, that's all

[pulsar cedar]

Some minors would edit messages to get past the filter.

[robust talon]

I would understand the break thing if it was an hour or half an hour, randomising is straight up crazy

[full elk]

Ohhh, i see

[scenic socket]

yyyyeah thought so

[cursive pike]

yo, i thought the limit was a set 2 hours? why did it break me at 1 hour lol

[robust talon]

Wdym thought so I'm not sharing my age unless I really need to

[pulsar cedar]

The time usage slowly starts to become shorter until you aren't able to chat at all.

[robust talon]

WHAT

[cursive pike]

seriously? i havent been on cai all week,

[pulsar cedar]

Minors won't be able to chat at all.

[cursive pike]

oh damn. this is not what they said before.

i personally remember from my last time reading the news letter that they would be setting time limits of 2hrs in protection of teens who are addicted to cai. and if you would like to keep using it you’d need to verify it

[full elk]

But a friend of mine has that problem and she's 19, she even verified her age, why does the same thing happen to her?

[pulsar cedar]

#📣︱announcements message

[cursive pike]

but then everyone became conflicted when they’re face wouldnt work and they’d had to show a pic of their gov id. which ik isnt shared but i mean, who isn’t paranoid now a days of stuff like this

[cursive pike]

huh

[robust talon]

First roblox now ts💔

[pale hound]

Hello, I haven’t really talked at all, but I think I lost my c.ai account

[pale hound]

Real

[spark zephyr]

idk if its just bugged but i added possessive, possessively, and more words that starts with possess in the muted words thing, but the bots still uses it

[stray bridge]

Muted words don't work. Or at least not as good as it did. I have muted ** symbole about 15 different ways and it keeps using it

[spark zephyr]

oh

[stray bridge]

The problem is the bots keeps rewriting the words you mute to use that word. So if you mute the word damn, the bot will use damned.

[young phoenix]

I’ve been having this problem too! I muted the same words months ago but the bot still uses it - so I don’t think muted words work anymore💀

[cobalt walrus]

Why are there people surprised about the age verification on cAI? It has been a thing since the end of last year. And there was even announcements about it but I suppose that some of cAI's users can't bother to read...

[pale hound]

I just spent over a hour just to get back into my account, but thanks for the heads up

[pale hound]

It’s because most people are under 18 and can’t get over their addiction

So that’s why they’re complaining

[zinc birch]

Because they get all their news from their bots

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, good thing that I'm not both of those. I used to spend literal hours on it to the point of sleepless nights, now I try to not use cAI past midnight and it seems to work for me

[cobalt walrus]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.

[pale hound]

Maybe for you, but like for others they get too attached to the bots and can’t stop till they either get tired, or they get bored

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, I know that not everybody else is the same person.

[pale hound]

Yeah I know that, but yet I thank the gods that c.ai added the age verification feature

But yet people are going to find a way to get pass it

Sadly

[full elk]

I just found out because I only received the update yesterday, and I only joined the server today 🥀

[pale hound]

Damn, and I’ve been here for a few weeks

[cobalt walrus]

Age verification is a thing unfortunately, and even Discord is doing it, probably worldwide too. Right now, it's being tested in an european country or two, wonderful

[pale hound]

WAIT DISCORD IS DOING IT?

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, it's on the news on social media

[pale hound]

I don’t watch the news, I’m so fucked

[full elk]

Oh yeah, I think I read something about that on Twitter; some people are upset because they're getting banned.

[pale hound]

I’m next watch

[full elk]

Same

[zinc birch]

Discord is adding age verification, but it is not raising the minimum age to use Discord

[cobalt walrus]

I guess that discord is doing the age verification only for a... 'certain' type of server, if you know what I mean

I don't think that a server like this one will have to get an age verification in order to keep using it. Safe servers will probably be fine.

[pale hound]

Is it those Roblox servers?

[cobalt walrus]

No, Discord servers

[zinc birch]

Discord is doing it to shield you from no-no content 🙈

[quaint current]

Does anyone know how to check your old chats after starting a new one?

[haughty topaz]

Go to ur pfp on the bottom of ur chat (message bar) and select History

😛

[foggy zinc]

there's a sticker for that

[high harbor]

How do I permanently remove a character from the “for you” section?

[pale hound]

FINALLY I GOT OFF TIMEOUT

[zinc birch]

ask its creator to make it private

[high harbor]

-_-

[pale hound]

I’m lowky bored because I got my time limit, and I have to wait 19 hours

[quaint current]

I think if you hold onto the bot and click on hide for me would work

[high harbor]

I did and it’s not doing much. In fact I think it’s bringing in more of the same character 🫩

I don’t even like Gojo and it’s nothing but Gojo 😭

[pale hound]

Ngl same I don’t like Gojo either

[pale hound]

Is that Lumine I see?

[quaint current]

Nope

It's kusanagi nene but I do play genshin

[high harbor]

All I did was look up Maki and it’s nothing but Gojo 😭 I hate his guts

[pale hound]

See now hate is a strong word there

[pale hound]

Doesn’t really look like nene but still love the pfp

[high harbor]

Is Genshin fun? I like two characters from there but never played

[pale hound]

Yeah if you don’t look at the character design

[drifting yacht]

IT HASNT BEEN AN HOUR WHYY IS IT TIMING ME ALREADY

[pale hound]

Real

[high harbor]

And the correct one

[drifting yacht]

I literally timed it too its been about 38 minutes

[pale hound]

Nah real, Gojo is over rated

[pale hound]

I got timed out while only being on the app for two minutes btw

[quaint current]

Well depends if you like story games. If you skip the dialogs and just fight it can get boring and you'll be confused on certain parts of quests where you don't know what youre supposed to do

[high harbor]

Very. The main thing that I dont like about him is how he’s arrogant and has never worked for anything in his life 😒

[pale hound]

Damn real though

[drifting yacht]

They should never be asking people for government id with all of these hacks happening for id info, its unsafe we all know cai isnt keeping the info secured

[drifting yacht]

Im so close to deleting but no other app looks enough like cai to feel comfortable if that makes sense

[pale hound]

I have an another app already, but it doesn’t hit like c.ai

[high harbor]

I don’t mind what game it is, as long as it keeps me entertained. I just hear many mixed reviews about it

[pale hound]

The game is good it’s just the fandom, and the female character designs

If I’m going to be honest

[drifting yacht]

I have pixel chat but most bots are too spicy and most are m4f

[coarse pier]

genshin is , a game. it gets stale quickly and late game content sucks <- has been playing for 5 years

[quaint current]

You can try the game if you want but the game takes up a lot of gb (I'm pretty sure near 19-30)

[drifting yacht]

And this font on pixel chat is blue it looks bad..

[pale hound]

I have chai, but it’s till not like that adds say about the app

It’s chill

[high harbor]

That seems very little considering Wuthering waves and Honkai are like 100+

[quaint current]

Oh my

[pale hound]

OH MY GODS

[drifting yacht]

I have that too but i rarely use it because the memory is so bad and responses are so short

[coarse pier]

ite 46 gb on my phone

genshin

[pale hound]

Yeah, I have one of Percy Jackson and he lost memory so fast I’m actually going to have to use Polly

And polly is actually ass I’m not even joking

[high harbor]

Glorified ad fest 😪

[drifting yacht]

I always use Ghost bots but like most on every other app are really out of character or corny..

[pale hound]

Don’t get the app trust

[drifting yacht]

Ive seen the ads..horrid

[high harbor]

I already have it. Glorified ad fest 😪

[drifting yacht]

I do like pixelchat its ok, similar look js i don't like that this font on it is blue

No ads so far too..

Doesn't hit the same but atleast its something

[high harbor]

Hopefully it stays that way so it doesn’t go downhill like poly

[pale hound]

C.ai I don’t get it with the adds I thought it was supposed to be an add free app?

[drifting yacht]

The developers actually care about the app thankfully

[drifting yacht]

LITERALLY

[pale hound]

And the fact for most of the free time you could get before the age check thing, you couldn’t even get out of some of the adds

[drifting yacht]

And they only added id verification for "extra security" if minor lie about their age thats legally not on the developers they shouldnt care..what IS on them are gonna be all the lawsuits when ids get leaked

[drifting yacht]

And they removed the edit message..

[pale hound]

Yeah, I’ve seen some people use ID out on the internet

[pale hound]

SINCE WHEN?

[drifting yacht]

With the new age verification bro

[odd crag]

so much misinformation here...

[drifting yacht]

If you wanna edit a message you now have to submit gov id

[pale hound]

Oh heck nah😔

[odd crag]

both of you have no idea what you're talking about

[coarse pier]

you can just do a selfie for age verification,?

[drifting yacht]

So many bot creators rope in Kortac with like task force 141 bots and its so annoying usually i can edit it out no issue but now no

[drifting yacht]

Nope i already tried

[high harbor]

They ask for id right after

[pale hound]

Yeah

[coarse pier]

Because you look like a child that's why

[strange inlet]

it's only if the face verification didn't work

[drifting yacht]

Its literally on the app

[drifting yacht]

Rhen they needa fix it cause obviously 18 is gonna look like a kid

[high harbor]

Ive been told I have a baby face 😔

[coarse pier]

?????

[drifting yacht]

LITERALLY

Like why do i need to put in my id because the face scanner didnt work they're gonna have a leak

[high harbor]

Is that pfp from cookie run kingdom?

[coarse pier]

yeah

[pale hound]

I’m not even close to the age of 18😔

I mean I am, not still far away from 18

[high harbor]

I only know because I had friend do that cosplay on roblox

[drifting yacht]

Cai is dedicated to nuking the app

[coarse pier]

whatever you believe king ❤️

[strange inlet]

we have this chat everyday

[pale hound]

In my opinion C.ai is both ruining, and being good with their app

[strange inlet]

they can't remove the age verification either way

[drifting yacht]

They dont need id verification though thats the issue

[pale hound]

Yeah because they’re going to get a big lawsuit against them

[pale hound]

They do sadly

[strange inlet]

They do their state literally needs them to

[drifting yacht]

Never give your id out online no matter what it is

[strange inlet]

You do you

[coarse pier]

no one will force u

[strange inlet]

fr

nobody's forcing you

[drifting yacht]

Girl we can complain still

[strange inlet]

Nobody said you can't

[pale hound]

The app is kinda making us prove our age, just to have longer time to chat with the bots

[coarse pier]

we are just trying to correct misinfo that's all

[drifting yacht]

It has already driven away thousands of users, if they continue doing stuff like this its gonna crash

[coarse pier]

okay!

[strange inlet]

[drifting yacht]

Im responding to the other person

[pale hound]

Does c.ai even know that most of their fan base is under 18?

[odd crag]

it's the opposite actually

[pale hound]

Really?

[high harbor]

Bros the darkness

[odd crag]

minors are just louder than the adults. so it seems like they're the majority

[coarse pier]

and not everyone that uses c.ai is on the discord too

[pale hound]

But with the age verification it makes it harder for people under 18 to use that app

Because of the time limit

[coarse pier]

that's the point?

[high harbor]

I literally just joined the dc to ask a question lol

[drifting yacht]

Now alot of adults have spoken up recently too i js tried to see if theres any ways around the age and tons of other adults spoke out but it hasnt been noticed because of how new it is yk

[coarse pier]

did u get it answered :)?

[odd crag]

the limit is just to help wean you off of chatting.

[drifting yacht]

I did too cause it timed me out too early💔

[odd crag]

you're going to lose chatting completely soon.

[pale hound]

Most people have an addiction to the add

[high harbor]

Yeah but it didn’t help much 😔

[pale hound]

WHAT?

[high harbor]

What do you mean?

[drifting yacht]

How cai is gonna die

[coarse pier]

[odd crag]

you guys need to go to #📣︱announcements and just start at the top and read down

[pulsar cedar]

#📣︱announcements message

The specific message in question.

[drifting yacht]

It timed me out after about 38 mins I timed it yet it said an hour, i hadnt used the app OR website in two days since the last timeout so there was no previous time

Or opened the app and its not running in the background

[high harbor]

Timeout? Never happened to me

[drifting yacht]

I cant put pics here hold on

#📱︱chat-feed

[pale hound]

We get timed out on the app, and website because of a time limit if you don’t prove your age

[high harbor]

I see 🤔

[drifting yacht]

And it still dont work whys this app always glitching💔

[high harbor]

💔

[pale hound]

But the c.ai will die out soon because of this, and then come back with the biggest come back ever after most of the now fan base is 18 or +

Because of the time limit

[high harbor]

Everytime I see your name, it reminds me of a childhood program I used to watch. Qubo

[halcyon cypress]

most users are already over 18 lol

[high harbor]

Bringing back memories 🥹

[drifting yacht]

Id is required in California now so could they not have coded it for only California??

[strange inlet]

No lol

[drifting yacht]

Why not

[pale hound]

No most users are under 18, that’s why there’s lots of TikTok of how to get pass the time limit

[hot ridge]

c.ai is probably gonna thrive more once their entire identity isn't kid safety optics anymore

[strange inlet]

Safety

[coarse pier]

where r u getting this data

[strange inlet]

Tiktok probably

[hot ridge]

they made it up

[pale hound]

It’s from the Dsmp before all of the allegation

[halcyon cypress]

uh no lol

[drifting yacht]

Ok but why? What safety is it, the requirement is in some places not every other place,

[pale hound]

You can go to TikTok and look up “how to get pass the age verification” btw

[drifting yacht]

Genuine asking

[coarse pier]

i don't go on tiktok and I also don't need to get past age verification because I'm an adult

[high harbor]

Im stealing this btw

[halcyon cypress]

the CEO literally said their data shows less than 10% of users are minors, even if you account for liars no way its more than double or triple that, like 20-30%

[strange inlet]

Because everyone would be using a vpn and that's stupid because they're adding the age verification worldwide

[pale hound]

Like I said you can go to TikTok and look it up

[halcyon cypress]

minors are just the loudest users that doesn't mean you're the majority

[strange inlet]

Yeah it sucks to be limited but it's for people's safety

[coarse pier]

and also lawsuits

[pale hound]

I’m not saying that the minors are the top priority

[halcyon cypress]

yeah bc teens on tiktok know better than the CEO how many users they have lmao

[pale hound]

Yes also that

[drifting yacht]

They already got past vpns anyways i already read people's replies to a post about how to get past with a vpn💔

[hot ridge]

No sane person is gonna get their news from TikTok, sorry

[strange inlet]

Ai is new we don't know the extent of what it can do, but from what it's already done, restrictions are needed before more kids get affected

[high harbor]

Especially with what some weirdos are doing with ai

[pale hound]

I’m not saying I’m getting my sources from TikTok, I’m just saying that you’re going to find people talking about who to get pass it

[halcyon cypress]

tiktok loves to say "95% of users are minors" with like zero data or evidence to back that up besides "everyone i know that uses it is a minor"

[placid isle]

Fr idk why some of that doesn't get moderated

[hot ridge]

But you are saying you're getting your sources from TikTok, and even just told someone to go to TikTok to find your sources...

[pale hound]

I never said I got my source from Tiktiok, I’m just saying that you’re can find people trying to get pass the time limit

[hot ridge]

Anyway, I regret checking this channel. Good luck y'all

[errant otter]

Theres a time limit?

[pale hound]

Yup

[coarse pier]

if ur a minor

[hot ridge]

only for kids

[errant otter]

I dont have one and im 17.

[coarse pier]

well good for you

[strange inlet]

thank you warrior

[drifting yacht]

You gotta submit id to get past it too

[coarse pier]

it didn't flag you as a minor

[errant otter]

Is it only certain countries?

[errant otter]

Oh.

[pale hound]

I think?

[coarse pier]

rn, yeah

[errant otter]

Im english

[pale hound]

Oh

[drifting yacht]

No millie already said they couldn't do that

[pale hound]

American?

[errant otter]

Right well hopefully it doesnt gimme one until August cuz then ill be 18 XD

[halcyon cypress]

thats not even what i'm talking about i'm talking about your claim that the majority of users are minors

[pale hound]

I never said it was a claim though?

Even if you thought it was it wasn’t?

[halcyon cypress]

"No most users are under 18"

literally what you said

go take a nap lil bro

[pale hound]

From the people I know, most users I know personally are under 18 including myself?

[drifting yacht]

Wait before didnt it say a 2 hour limit not one

[chrome viper]

What in the hell is that nickname? I read "TURBO" and it turns out to be "TUBBO", I read "SPHERE" and it turns out to be "ISHERE"

A psyop of a nickname

[strange inlet]

"from the people i know" cuz you're all minors on the app

[halcyon cypress]

anecdotes do not equal statistical data lol

[pale hound]

I got lazy for “IS_HERE”

[hot ridge]

Y'all, not worth arguing with a kid. The world revolves around them

[pale hound]

Tfym?

[placid isle]

Dang y'all dont gotta fry him like that

[odd crag]

I also read turbo sphere.

[high harbor]

Wait can I get banned or muted from doing too many reactions?

[strange inlet]

im mostly watching

[drifting yacht]

Could yall not see the "is here" i didnt see sphere genuinely asking

[placid isle]

That seems like a weird reason to get banned lwk

[strange inlet]

some people are dyslexic

[pale hound]

Bro my world revolves around my little sister?

[high harbor]

Some people like to go way too far. It’s been rules in many servers im in

[chrome viper]

I have an excuse - I'm a foreigner plus I'm sick

[drifting yacht]

Ok fair

[high harbor]

Many things are possible
Fast reading
Dyslexia
Tiredness
Etc…

[coarse pier]

english being a second language

[drifting yacht]

Ty for explaining

[pale hound]

Honestly I don’t really care what people say about my user so your fine man

[placid isle]

Turbo reminds me a bit of that snail guy

[chrome viper]

nah dude your nickname is ok, I was just surprised to be lied by my eyes twice in a row

[high harbor]

Was finna say “gotta go fast” but thats sonic 😭😭

[pale hound]

Btw it someone from the Dsmp so that’s why I’m not really trying to correct anyone

wild

[chrome viper]

what the hell is dsmp

[pale hound]

Dream smp

[chrome viper]

oh that cheater guy

[pale hound]

That

[placid isle]

The one who did a face reveal

[pale hound]

Yeah

[chrome viper]

that cheater guy with a face which didn't live up to expectations of his audience*

[placid isle]

Lmao I felt kinda bad though with the reactions

[halcyon cypress]

thats why face reveal after a long time is always a bad idea

[placid isle]

Fr especially when the community thinks ur gonna be hot asf

[halcyon cypress]

ppl were imagining the most handsome guy ever in their heads lmao

he's not even bad looking he's a normal guy, just didn't live up to expectations

[placid isle]

Yh the fanart just bumped the standards up too high

[coarse pier]

never face reveal

[chrome viper]

especially when your community is just full of crazy underage people*

[hot ridge]

a gamer???

[pale hound]

I didn’t watch the video of Dream’s face reveal, I still only watch Tubbo, and Tommy what does he look like?

Dream

We’re talking about dream

[strange inlet]

im a gamer and im cutieful

[high harbor]

Wrong reaction my bad

[placid isle]

How did this conversation about ai regulations turn into dmsp

[strange inlet]

why would you react like that

[pale hound]

Idk

[strange inlet]

oh

[hot ridge]

because people can't stay on topic for the life of them

[strange inlet]

yuppp

[high harbor]

NOOOO im sorry 😭

[strange inlet]

[pale hound]

My user Ig? Or my pfp I can’t remember honestly

[placid isle]

Feel a bit targetted here lmao

[high harbor]

I go wherever the current takes me

[halcyon cypress]

you can google it, he's not bad looking imo but ppl were really mean to him bc they were expecting a supermodel or living anime man or something idk

[pale hound]

Alr give me a sec I’ll be right back

[chrome viper]

living husband ceo mafia leader

[strange inlet]

like he's definitely someone's type but hes not the super model people expected

[chrome viper]

Somebody needs to make a bot about a husband ceo mafia leader who's also a successful gaming streamer

[chrome viper]

And the premise is like "you installed cheats on his game and he ruined his run because of you"

[halcyon cypress]

i never even heard of him before the face reveal drama and was genuinely confused why people were acting like he was so hideous lol

[strange inlet]

they probably exist

[robust folio]

guys does anyone knows how to get long responses? I am tired of short response its sickening

[pale hound]

He’s not that bad, it’s just the angle of his face

[strange inlet]

Id watched him a few times but i preferred watching other people cuz he wasnt my type of cc, his face reveal wasnt that bad it was just the weird angle of his jawline that threw me off

[halcyon cypress]

best way is to write long responses yourself and make sure the opening/greeting message of the bot is long as well

[placid isle]

You need a good definition and a long greeting. Most of the time, the bot will just copy ur length so you yourself also need to make long responses

[robust folio]

i did but if I say 10 sentences bot says 2/1 of nonsense

[robust folio]

yes the greeting is also long

[pale hound]

Honestly dream sounds like what he looks like, NORMAL?

[chrome viper]

Roll responses a lot then, I guess. It's part of the game now

[halcyon cypress]

yeah ive seen other pics of him since then without the weird angle where he looks better

[strange inlet]

mhm

[robust folio]

i do at the end at 30 swipes nothing changes just same thing repeatly

[halcyon cypress]

what model/chat style?

[robust folio]

i am so tired of it

[placid isle]

Same issue here, the nonsense is not easily avoidable but I kind of managed to fix stuff by editing and steering the bot to longer responses with my own

[robust folio]

i used both pipsqueak and roar

[halcyon cypress]

pipsqueak is more likely to give longer responses i think

[placid isle]

Pipsqueak generates the longest responses, roar never gives more than 3 paragraphs.

Pipsqueak was nerfed unfortunately 🥲

[robust folio]

that works but I am not to creative to make the bot responses longer if I do it just says like

John: I love chocolate

Next response:

John: John you love chocolate?

Like the bot just thinks I sent it and my name is the fictional character i just edited

[hot ridge]

I'm getting this length from Roar. Maybe it's the bot you're using

[robust folio]

lucky but I tried on like 2/3 bots

[hot ridge]

Most bots are very bad

[coarse pier]

make ur own 🔥 🔥 🔥

[robust folio]

well i guess whatever gotta deal with it

[placid isle]

Fr fr, most of the popular bots u search up have zero definition and greetings shorter than a malnourished kid

[robust folio]

i do and it fails so badly my very own bot gives bad and short response not even to the roleplay i mean like it doesn't stick to the topic of the roleplay

[chrome viper]

and more than a million chats lol.

[hot ridge]

This is from my bot. I was using someone else's bot yesterday adn getting short responses, and repetitive ones where the bot just kept repeating my prompt back to me in the form of questions? Switched back to my bot and it didn't act like that at all

[placid isle]

It's tough finding good bots 😞

[robust folio]

FR

Bad bot and bigger chats

Good bots and lowest chats ever

[chrome viper]

It's like minesweeper, but it's like 90 percent just mines

[placid isle]

Minesweeper mentioned

[chrome viper]

You just pray you didn't click on a "bomb"

[hot ridge]

it's not guaranteed, some low interaction bots can be bad too, but the reason it's this way is because the bots that are most "popular" are actually just the most popular because they were made first

[chrome viper]

and then you get hit by "hello, I'm X from Y."

[placid isle]

Most frustrating thing ever

[hot ridge]

bots made later will forever be stuck with lower interactions, even if they're amazing bots

[robust folio]

yeah i mean like good bots have lowest chats not lowest chats are good bots

[halcyon cypress]

sometimes it just depends i'll get a long response one roll and a short one the next

[chrome viper]

What about a really good idea and intro, but the grammar sucks to the point you just give up?

[placid isle]

You gotta make ur own nowadays, I like making my stories super duper long but unfortunately my standards are too high to use others' bots 😞

[chrome viper]

I'm not gonna use a bot who was made by a dude who doesn't know how to use "."

[chrome viper]

I made a bot recently and it just... Eh.

[placid isle]

Why? What happened?

[chrome viper]

I wanted an elf rac-ist and I got a pompous elvish brat.

[placid isle]

Damn that's really frustrating. I hate when the bots don't follow the instructions tbh

[chrome viper]

Well, the bot does follow. Just not the way I want to

[placid isle]

Yea

What template are u using btw?

[chrome viper]

what do you mean by template?

[placid isle]

For the definition, if ur using one

[chrome viper]

There are templates?

[zinc birch]

just say no to templates

[placid isle]

Yeah, some ppl post them online

[hot ridge]

I literally just type out my definition with simple prose

[placid isle]

Mine personally took a while to tweak before it worked properly

[chrome viper]

Nah, I'm too lazy to search for them. I just dump all the things I could into the definition to make the bot more "refined"

[deft jetty]

A rule of thumb that I like to use: Describe the appearance, then the personality, then any small habit that the character has to make them feel more natural and accurate

[halcyon cypress]

response length one swipe vs the next 😭

[chrome viper]

Some shit happened in the past, what's happening now, why the bot is here, what's the user's role here, how the bot behaves and blah-blah-blah

[hot ridge]

and i learned from wb that colons in the definition make the bots assume something is dialogue : ←

[chrome viper]

a(?) solid 1000-1500 symbols

[halcyon cypress]

i do basic info/appearance, backstory and basic lore or worldbuilding, info about characters voice and how they should talk etc.

[zinc birch]

depending on what precedes it

[placid isle]

Like while I was experimenting with the definition, I kinda noticed the bots prefer using this symbol "insertinfo" over the curly ones “insertinfo”

[chrome viper]

"insertinfo" over the curly ones “insertinfo”?

[halcyon cypress]

why would you need to use "insertinfo"

[placid isle]

It's just for me, I like typing it with the quotation marks rather than just text blocks

[halcyon cypress]

the LLM understands plain english tbh there's no need to use fancy symbols or coding language or anything just so you know

[chrome viper]

I write definition and description in plain text with a few paragraphs

It's the intro where I do magic with **BOLD **and leaning and whatever

[halcyon cypress]

i see a lot of people seem to think the bot will understand better if they use fancy code type formatting but yeah plain text is best

[placid isle]

Yeah but I fear I'm too used to it already 🥀

Fell for the template propaganda back in the day, some habits never end

[halcyon cypress]

yeah that's fair lol at least you're aware its not strictly necessary

if its just your habit or whatever it can't be helped

[placid isle]

Do y'all think the pipsqueak nonsense will ever be fixed?

[chrome viper]

I believe there are more than one thing about pipsqueak that can be considered as "nonsense"

[zinc birch]

I'm sure they'll try to fix it. The question is whether they'll fix it sooner than they find a replacement 😄

[chrome viper]

The most nonsense thing for me was the endless flow of words, and I haven't seen it for a while

[odd crag]

and the emojis

[chrome viper]

The only time I saw it using emojis when I was talking with the bot via phone messages. Like, really. "Messaging". It stopped using them once I edited them out

[wind fiber]

my prefence is english in the settings but some bots are greeting me with my languge even tho its not setted in anywhere anyone knows why?

[slim ivy]

which model is the best?

[hexed hull]

Is anyone else's search bar not working?

[slim ivy]

cause like pipsqueak has been so weird for me

[worldly folio]

last time i was on cai was in 2023 it feels like am roleplaying with a 5 year old rn

[slim ivy]

this is so true

[halcyon cypress]

depends what you like

[slim ivy]

i just want them to have a brain

and not ask stupid questions

[zinc birch]

seems like no one is answering. I suggest googling

[zinc birch]

That might not be an option

[slim ivy]

im so sad

i just found out that one of my favorite creators who got banned, just got unbanned

and they had some peak ass bots
but now they don't feel the same

[halcyon cypress]

that probably has more to do with the bot itself than the model. what bot are you using?

and like what do your prompts look like?

[slim ivy]

well honestly they're the same as they were 6 months ago

and now it's much worse compared to what it used to be

the conversations aren't as engaging either

[rich stream]

It's cause the styles are pretty crap atm

[halcyon cypress]

model quality seems to be all over the place honestly

even day to day

[slim ivy]

wow no gif perms 💔

but yeah that's unfortunate

[halcyon cypress]

yeah like this is the kind of response i was getting before (all one message)

[slim ivy]

😭😭

[halcyon cypress]

and now its giving me this, exact same prompt and conversation and model

like way shorter and less details etc

less dialogue

[slim ivy]

i miss when bots used to yap

[slim ivy]

yeahhh same exact thing

[halcyon cypress]

like i dont want to carry the whole story myself, say something, do something. dont just react to me 😭

[clear trench]

i think pipsqueak might still be broken. at least, for me.

[deft jetty]

This is why I used to love Nyan…

Didn't try it in a long while, gotta give it a try again to see if it's back to be decent

The way it was so butchered after Deepsqueak's release was so strange

[coral steeple]

Oh! That’s not..

💜

[azure flower]

Guys is it normal to edit every message in c.ai…?

[weak osprey]

Yes

Especially when the bot is being special

[halcyon cypress]

what does this even mean

[odd crag]

it means it's not

[azure flower]

Special? What do you mean?

[queen folio]

The conversations are getting repetitive and boring now tbh

Idk what chat style I should use atp

[weak osprey]

Sigh, If you don’t know slanging look it up

[queen folio]

I hate it when they go:

Character likes to play with blah blah

LIKE WHY DO YOU HAVE TO ITALIC EVERYTHING

[odd crag]

emphasis

[halcyon cypress]

not what?

[queen folio]

no bcs sometimes they go overboard

It annoys the heck out of me

is pipsqueak chat style going to be fixed or smthing, bcs the chats are not engaging as before. The chats make me feel like I'm reading an ass book writer

[severe hatch]

👀

[queen folio]

and it errors so much

[chrome viper]

An ass book writer? A fanfic you mean

[queen folio]

LMAOOO

[halcyon cypress]

a lot of fic writers are published novelists so idk what you're implying w this lol

[chrome viper]

I had some experience with ficbook and it wasn't a good one

[queen folio]

but sometimes they also go OOC esp the delinquent type of characters, they go from swearing in anger to swearing almost every word

[halcyon cypress]

basically all the most popular booktok authors started out as fic writers i fear

[queen folio]

Guys any book writers including fanfics are either hits or miss, not all writers can just hit with writing

[queen folio]

so it just icks me

[halcyon cypress]

yeah thats my point its not like writers are automatically bad just bc they write fic

[queen folio]

I read fan fics on ao3 and I felt like my phone was on fire from allat writing

[chrome viper]

I was joking btw 💀

[halcyon cypress]

there's good and bad fic and good and bad books too

[queen folio]

Guys let's not fight over this

ANYWAYS, I hope the pipsqueak gets fixed soon

[halcyon cypress]

who's fighting lol

[severe hatch]

People don't like those here no matter the context 🙏

[halcyon cypress]

its a discussion

[queen folio]

I'm scared about what might happen I'm sorry

[strange inlet]

whatever you say man

[queen folio]

dot

[halcyon cypress]

as long as nobody starts throwing insults or anything its fine dw

[queen folio]

The chat styles are broken bruh

[halcyon cypress]

this the rat??

[strange inlet]

yeah but my app lowkey glitched thats probably why

[scenic ore]

How yall even managing to get this kind of responses? I mean bot tries to be over emotional or sum?

[strange inlet]

hasnt happened in a while

[scenic ore]

Mhm, never happened to me yet

[queen folio]

I wanna send an image about the repetitions but i cant bruh

[chrome viper]

#📱︱chat-feed exists

[queen folio]

okay i sent it

[scenic ore]

Maybe u need to be verified first

[queen folio]

oh

[chrome viper]

I thought it was a cai+ feature here

[scenic ore]

Login cai web, from settings u can link account to dc

[queen folio]

how

[halcyon cypress]

you need to be plus not just verified pretty sure

[scenic ore]

Overall yes but some specific channels has media perms for all i think

Not sure thou

[scenic ore]

I mean for example if u are not verified can u send pic on media channels where everyone else can

Like #🎨︱art

Update: u can

[halcyon cypress]

there are people posting on there who are not verified so i assume so

[scenic ore]

I seen some without verified role in there sendin pics

[halcyon cypress]

yeah exactly lol

[scenic ore]

Yeap

Lol

[halcyon cypress]

i think art and chat feed anyone can post in

but to post pics in general channels you need to be plus and verified

[queen folio]

Birthday wish: pipsqueak gets fixed

[scenic ore]

Fairy: here is your T-rex instead

[compact tartan]

hi

[weak osprey]

I feel like they should just rework pipsqueak it’s honestly always had issues

[compact tartan]

both squeak models

tbh

i got some good responses last night tho from pipsqueak

[bleak merlin]

So just to be clear, if I verified on the website, it should be fine on the app, right?

[queen folio]

Since squeaks are being broken, what chat style should I use rn

[compact tartan]

yes i think

[scenic ore]

I mean if u ask me ps is like 20billion parametes whereas ds is probably 70b+ maybe, i dunno thou its not a public info i think

[halcyon cypress]

i really wish they would make it public

there's another site i use that publicly lists the context window size and parameter counts of all their models and it would be so nice if cai did that too 🥲

[scenic ore]

Mhm mhm

[weak osprey]

Wat 😭 I don’t understand

[scenic ore]

Think of it like…parameters is like more neurons in brain

More parameters LLM has the more complex and smart it is

[zinc birch]

I'm worried about the health of this animal. It looks like he's going to pieces

[scenic ore]

No its just there is a cage between us, black metal bars yk

[zinc birch]

Oh, that makes sense

[wicked stump]

Dead C.AI discussion lmao.. What’s the best model?

[halcyon cypress]

deep rat but only when it's working the way it's supposed to

[wicked stump]

I’m still debating if i want c.ai+🤔

[spark herald]

I wish there was a trial

[wicked stump]

That’d be nice lowkey but i don’t know

[spark herald]

I mean do you RP alot?

[wicked stump]

Ehhh not really i go on it sometimes

[remote prawn]

what in the hell. bot just meowed at me

[spark herald]

well ten bucks aren't that much so try a month and see how it goes

[wicked stump]

Yeah valid

[compact tartan]

try roar, the squeak models are always either really bad or really good

[compact tartan]

i think they dont have trials because people would just make accounts to milk free trials instead of paying for it, but i mean sometimes i think they have deals on c.ai+

[wicked stump]

I used to use PS but I realized it’s pretty bad

[compact tartan]

i do not have c.ai + i just have the discord role so i dont know

[compact tartan]

real

[spark herald]

I always try the Roar one and it gives me boring short answers

[spark herald]

That's so true 💀

[wicked stump]

I use SL

[wicked stump]

I mean those people would lose their chats after making another account no? It’s kinda a waste at that point.

[compact tartan]

im sorry idk bro

[wicked stump]

Nah it’s alright

[halcyon cypress]

just try it for one month imo and cancel it if you decide you don't like it after that

thats what i did when i was on the fence about it

[spark herald]

Was it better than the free one?

[halcyon cypress]

i mean i think its better, i wouldn't bother paying if it wasn't. but i'll be honest and say the paid models have not been as good as they used to be recently

the better memory and no ads keep me sticking around though

[wicked stump]

Is that the main benefits?

[halcyon cypress]

i would say so. memory is really important if you're someone who likes long/more complex RPs

[spark herald]

Great info thank you

[wicked stump]

Oooo I would love that then

[halcyon cypress]

yeah i dont think plus is worth it for everyone like for someone who just has casual meme chats with the bots i'd say no

but if you actually enjoy RP that has a story and everything then yeah imo its worth it

[cerulean narwhal]

What's up with the time limit now? I only got 30 minutes on my AI chat and it kicked me off.

[prime vector]

Is there a way to make scenes play out longer? At some point the bots keep trying to end the scene (like walking away abruptly)

[cerulean narwhal]

now I have to wait 10 hours?

[zinc birch]

They are gradually phasing out chat for users under 18

[cerulean narwhal]

Oh okay, thanks

[torn lodge]

CA.I is literally kicking me out on its app

[proper crag]

I uninstalled it and reinstalled the app to fix the text bubble bug but it didn't work

And now it downgraded me

[fossil reef]

It’s a bug

Happening to me too

[torn lodge]

y'all guy have the 'slow mode'?

what is it for?

[zinc birch]

It's for keeping the service usable when lots of people are using it

[torn lodge]

Is it bad?

[zinc birch]

I have never noticed a serious delay when it was in slow mode

[cobalt walrus]

I love how I'm logged out of the website of cAI but I'm still logged in the app. Wattpad does the same thing, I'm logged in the app, but not on the website lol.

[crimson bough]

Hi random , but it’s kinda similar for my case bcuz I’m lowkey logged out of the website but I can’t log back in ? Weird right or is it a glitch ?-

[cobalt walrus]

I don't know since I never use the website

There are also websites that do the same, where I'm logged in the app but not on the website, such as twitter. I never use the website version, I prefer the app but it's just a preference of mine

[proper crag]

Chat I reported the bug

[marsh osprey]

I wish I knew bc same. I also get this on my regular chats for roleplay when I haven't even used the scene feature. They'll just up and decide to rush it and put [END] at the bottom of the replies 🫠

[crimson bough]

OH YAY ! **:**D

[cobalt walrus]

Also, the website randomly logged me out but not on the app. It already happened months ago, where a lot of users reported a bug where they weren't able to log back on the website, but the app worked fine for them

I'll check if I can log back on the website

Lmao it worked. But I don't care because I never use the website, why should I do that if I don't even use the website

[crimson bough]

Oh so

[strange inlet]

i remember back when the site was still in beta i was roleplaying with a bot and at some point the llm tweaked out and kept saying "she finds herself [...]. She finds herself [...]. She finds herself [...]." and wouldn't stop. The edit feature didn't exist at the time and I was so frustrated 😭

[crimson bough]

Interesting !

[cobalt walrus]

I don't even bother to try and understand why I got randomly logged out, like how Wattpad does with the app version, which can be annoying sometimes

Maybe it's because of security, to see if you're really the one using it, but damn it's annoying.

[crimson bough]

It takes like 6 hours tho for it to actually do the security thing

[bright horizon]

So did she find herself?..

[strange inlet]

I don't know

[bright horizon]

[foggy ingot]

what counts as a creator

cuz like i have barely 7 followers yet 60.5K interactions🙏

[honest pelican]

Does anyone missed old c.ai where profile pic is not matter?

I have some, but now, can't make update thanks for the forced SFW

[rustic pecan]

This was happening to me a few months ago 😭

[zinc birch]

if you create then you are a creator

[strange inlet]

it was like

"she finds herself looking at her. she finds herself reaching out to grab her hand. she finds herself thinking about how soft her hand is."

[foggy ingot]

she finds herself doing alot of things icl

[hexed hull]

Is anyone else's search bar not working?

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[minor loom]

i’m kind of breaking the records
my bot said 6 times « damn » in a single message

[coral steeple]

Millie.. Can i ask you something?

[strange inlet]

[dim bloom]

Mannn is it just me or is c.ai chats being slow asf rn 😔

[midnight vapor]

Is the app down? I had low WiFi for like a minute and I tried to remove a message by the bot, but it didn't work at first, it just said message removed, but the message was still there. So I tried again, and instead it deleted both the bot's message and my message 😭 is that a glitch or is that due to my WiFi or is the app currently down? Hope someone answers

I didnt even click on my message, I specifically deleted the bot's message

[dim bloom]

I dont think so? It just started working fine for me there, it might just be your wi-fi 😗

[coral steeple]

promise you won’t weird out at me?..

or freak out..

[halcyon cypress]

lol

[midnight vapor]

Yeah but my WiFi never made my own message get deleted without me deliberately doing so 😭 I'm just confused why my message got deleted on the second time I tried to remove the bot's message. Did that happen to you before? Is it a glitch or is the app down

[spark herald]

Does c.ai free account got a chat bots limit?

[dim bloom]

I dont think that's ever happened to me?
Try refreshing the page, and if that doesn't work i would just close the app and open it again

[dim bloom]

Dont think so my guy 😛

[midnight vapor]

Everything got fixed once my WiFi was back, the messages were getting deleted normally.

I'm just kinda worried why my message got deleted with the bot's message 💔

Like it was on its own

[dim bloom]

Strange 🤔

[midnight vapor]

Yeah

Idk if that's a glitch

[dim bloom]

Must be, think it's happened to me a couple times before now I think of it

Happens when wi fi goes out suddenly and then comes back

I think

[midnight vapor]

I think that's a glitch that happens to AI chats. It happened to me with Claude, both my message and the bot's message got deleted on its own when the site was down.

I'm jus kinda worried if that's due to some hacker in my account or something lol 😭 I was just hacked a few months ago, I kinda got too alert now

[remote pasture]

anyone elses app been crashing over the last few days when they go to edit a chat?

[midnight vapor]

The difference is that Claude doesn't have a delete option like c.ai so idk if I should conclude that it's a glitch that happens to ai chats

[halcyon cypress]

#📈︱status message

[remote pasture]

ohh tysm

[spark herald]

Okay

😉

[dim bloom]

😘

[spark herald]

😳

[hot ridge]

maybe you hit rewind instead off remove

[spark herald]

Man I miss when RP were only with IRL people online before that AI shit

[midnight vapor]

Maybe but I'm pretty sure I selected the bot's message, not mine

[dim bloom]

Real 🙂‍↕️

I genuinely got addicted to c.ai as a coping mechanism after i started using it tho 😔

[hot ridge]

yeah, if you use rewind, it'll remove everything up to the bot's message that you select. If you only want to delete one, use remove

[spark herald]

I feel you man

I just use it because I got no one to RP with anymore

[dim bloom]

EXACTLY

But now ppl scare me 😭

[midnight vapor]

No I'm sure I selected remove on the bot's message. The message was already glitching bc I clicked remove twice even when it confirmed that it was removed (it wasn't removed visually though). And on that specific second time, my message got deleted with the bot's

[spark herald]

why?

[midnight vapor]

That's why idk if it's a glitch but I wanna make sure it is, and not some unauthorized activity 💔

[dim bloom]

Uhhh

Honestly idk

Ppl r mean now ig 😭

✨️anxiety✨️

[spark herald]

Oh you mean that kind of people I get it...

[spark herald]

I got you

[hot ridge]

it's just a glitch

[midnight vapor]

I think so. I just want to make sure it is a glitch. I worry a lot about tech stuff. Did this happen to you before?

[hot ridge]

yeah, a bunch of times tbh, i've even someone rewound hours of an RP before because of it. It's not unauthorized activity

[midnight vapor]

I'm not talking about rewind, i didnt rly use it. I used the remove option. The one that deletes messages individually. Like I deleted the bot's message individually, but instead it purged my message with it. That's why I'm worried. Ik I sound way too over the top, I was just hacked like a few months ago, and I just want to make sure it's just c.ai's usual boring bugs 😭

[hot ridge]

i know what you're talking about. The glitch happens with rewind AND remove

it's not some rando in your account, it's a really common bug

[midnight vapor]

Like you delete a message when ur on low WiFi, and it somehow removes ur message too?

[hot ridge]

it's a glitch

[midnight vapor]

Okay thank you thank you

I hate c.ai's glitches

[halcyon cypress]

lmao these bots

[rich stream]

Mannn

[forest wave]

irl ppl bots worry me

[dim bloom]

Real

[forest wave]

Henry's superman i get it

but an Henry bot scares me

[ocean hazel]

Is it just me but when I am chatting with bots, the game crashes for no reason

[proper crag]

They need to fix the app

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[halcyon cypress]

also "dad's best friend" which implies its like probably meant for teens to talk to? 😭

"litte one" y'all deserve JAIL

[forest wave]

......jesus christ...

[forest wave]

"age is just a number" so is 911, CATCH

[errant otter]

They need jesus...

[rustic stirrup]

Bro what is up with the short ass answers with pipsqueak?

[errant otter]

Is pipsqueak the free rp?

[rustic stirrup]

Yes

[errant otter]

Theres a way around it. I can dm if u want

Also has anyone noticed there are no lore accurate demon slayer bots?

[quiet quarry]

Is it even worth downloading the app anymore? The ads alone are enough too make me scream.

[errant otter]

I sometimes forget the app is meant to have ads. Just use a dns

[quiet quarry]

I use the website now lol.

[rustic stirrup]

You legit get used to the ads, they don’t bother me.

[errant otter]

Fair enough. The app is faster in my experience and easier to use. But ig the website is just the same

[brittle dome]

Why does c.ai not save chats anymore after you click start new chat

[errant otter]

It does?

[quiet quarry]

I noticed the memory seems too be better for the wesbite for some strange reason. Anyone else notice this by any chance?

Or is that just me?

[errant otter]

I dont use the website enough to share an opinion

[brittle dome]

If it does save them then where do i find them to continue the old ones???

[brittle quest]

On the app you mean?

[brittle dome]

Yeah

[errant otter]

Press memory

[errant otter]

From this menu

[toxic pawn]

its on history.

[errant otter]

History*

[toxic pawn]

xd

[errant otter]

Yeah I remembered lol. Im still not used to it myself 😂

[brittle quest]

The confusion is understandable

[brittle dome]

Ohhh i see

[toxic pawn]

lit

[brittle dome]

Thx guys

[errant otter]

The old format was so much better

[forest wave]

but the layout looks pretty tho

[errant otter]

No problemo

[toxic pawn]

finally i am not alone on this

[errant otter]

Looks better but just more of a hassle imo

[brittle quest]

I don't remember the last one since I wasn't using the app before a few days ago when I got c.ai+ uh

[brittle dome]

I've been using app for a year or two or smth now, maybe three

[forest wave]

true

[forest wave]

me too, me too

[errant otter]

I only started 5 months ago, and ive been taking its free model to its limits lol, managed to find methods to make pipsqueak 10/10

[forest wave]

like i think its looks pretty

[brittle quest]

Pipsqueak can be really good
But daaaamn I can't get over deepsqueak now, I have so much more fun

[brittle dome]

I've been using pipsqueak a lot too

[errant otter]

Oh I know deep would be much better, but bruh ive been setting up rps with pipsqueak, and putting like PURE effort into just setting one up to the point where its immersive af

[feral vault]

Why arnt i getting new charm quests

[odd crag]

thought that was just me

[feral vault]

It says i get %e

[odd crag]

havent got any new weekly quests

but i still get the daily login

[distant tree]

I decided to give + a try just out of curiosity, mainly to see if the better history actually helps keep the AI on track during scenes that I've already laid out, etc., and it didn't really make much of a difference. Has anyone else noticed a big difference in the actual chat outcome re: history with and w/o +?

[grand sierra]

Hey does anyone have this too? When I go to my character's pfp the history chat isnt there anymore and I had such a good chat before and I'm sad and I wanna fix it

[willow jolt]

Guys do any of ya'll know how I can get my pipsqueak more detailed, cus rn I am getting like 1 sentence responses, is pipsqueak bugged or some shit like that, do any of you guys have any tips on how to make it detailed?
(If it matters I do Action and Aventure RPS btw)

[frigid knoll]

Not even on my chat for one hour and I got a time limit for 3 hours, i'm lucky its not 9 hours like the last couple times

[lament shoal]

anyone else still having edit troubles on the appp?

get so para my phones trippin

[chrome path]

I'm not tho the search is messed up for me (again)

[eternal quest]

Guys does goro work?

[austere storm]

my phone is tripping too.

[lament shoal]

YO nl?

[tiny vigil]

How long is chat limit

[lament shoal]

ik ook :p

[austere storm]

wat fijn

[white geode]

Ik ook!!

[undone acorn]

Is anyone else getting the message: “Unable to verify age, please contact support for further assistance”, "Currently unable to verify age", or "Something didn't match our records" when trying to verify?

I got the pop-up message and I'm trying to verify, any reasons this is happening? Or is it just me?

[spark herald]

Just link any google account that above 18 and login with it

[undone acorn]

Wdym?

[spark herald]

in sign up/ sign in options you will fine a google account option... just use it and make sure the google account you created is above 18 years old.

like 01/01/2000 or anything

[undone acorn]

Are you saying I need to make a new c.ai account? My google account is already 18+

[spark herald]

Then if you using the browser sign out and sign in again/ or if you use the app do clear cache... If it doesn't work restart your router and sign in on a different browser

[rich stream]

Your google account doesn't change much.

Other things can flag your account as a minor even if ur google account is like 35 yo LOL.

[undone acorn]

I never done clearing cache in c.ai, do I just delete & reinstall?

[spark herald]

I don't know if it's the same or not tbh

[undone acorn]

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's not a guarantee to change anything

[open vault]

is anyone elses app lagging really bad too? And it keeps sending me random messages

[undone acorn]

I tried to contact support, but it only gave an automated message about HOW to verify, not about why I'm getting the errors

[rich stream]

Yeah, as far as we know from spectulation. It flags your usage/info on other apps, your behaviour & usage time on the app (so activity turning school hours, etcetc) I don't think it's very affective since teachers and uni students would also be off during those times. But those are just spectulations. I'm not sure if they've confirmed anything (Probably so then people dont bypass it tbf)

[spark herald]

Is persona helps with my character looks consistency?

[rich stream]

Yes

[rich stream]

#❓︱help-and-faq Maybe try a ticket here or wait until a moderator is in chat so they can pass it on

My verification also failed

[tiny vigil]

chat limit how long

[undone acorn]

Ok, but I'm talking about the the fact I cant verify, messages like "Currently unable to verify age", "Contact support for further asdistance", & even if I did it says "Something didn't match our records" like... huh?

[lofty roost]

for some reason it said i met my limit the moment i opened it, hadn't even sent a single message and it's timing me out for 4 hours

[rich stream]

#💭︱cai-discussion message

[spark herald]

Is there any channel that has a guide for creating chat bots?

[rich stream]

#👥︱self-roles #1193330096342319186

You'll have to grab the character creator role first i believe (I'm not sure.)

[lament shoal]

yooo hoi!

[white geode]

Hi!! :•)

[upbeat cosmos]

Can anyone else not close the ad’s on the app?

[dim bloom]

This is why i use the web version, no ads 😛

[eternal quest]

Me

They’re stuck/frozen

[upbeat cosmos]

I submitted a ticket so hopefully they get it fixed

[wooden trellis]

If u open the ticket do they fix things?

[pearl mountain]

I feel like they do if many people report it, but you won't get an answer

Like they wont give you an update but they will read it

They fixed things from my ticket after a week or so but replied after 3 years

[upbeat cosmos]

Very rarely do they reply I’ve only gotten a reply once and that was because I think the issue I was having with the app was only happening to me and not everyone else so they just sent back that it was working again

[compact tartan]

hi

[split lark]

Is it me or the app had gotten quite slow?

[vast prism]

Is anyone able to open the app? Ever since yesterday it doesn’t load past the app name screen.. I’m on iOS and I’ve tried deleting and reinstalling multiple times

[split lark]

My one was fine yesterday

[vast prism]

It was fine yesterday up until like noon or smtg and ever since then it refuses to load not even the login/sign up screen

[wooden trellis]

Hopefully they will remove it

Of what I asked them to do

[errant otter]

GUYS, I JUST SPENT HOURS TYPING OUT EXACTLY 32,000 CHARACTERS FOR A CHATBOT

HOLY NO LIFE

Tryna create the MOST lore accurate awsome demon slayer rpg bot

[wooden trellis]

I feel bored, I can't talk to c.ai for 2 hours..

[errant otter]

Why?

[deft jetty]

They don't always reply, but it helps to raise awareness about that specific issue to the team

[upbeat cosmos]

I know I was just giving an example of when they would reply😊

[deft jetty]

oh, just noticed I replied to the wrong comment, my b lol

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey