#💭︱cai-discussion
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Is it just me or are they doing a lot of changes? Like so many changes to the point that is bugging out the app?
It is it just me? Idk I feel like they are changing everything in the spam of five minutes every time I open the app something has changed
Too political, to be honest.
Also when I open the app I don’t really want to be greeted by videos. Is that just me or?
Because I came to chat with bots not looking at whatever people are making videos of images with their chats or something (Idk what even it is honestly)
Maybe I’m the only one with this opinion but I’m not sure
the new ui is so inconsistent cause what do you mean i get a huge ass gap after editing the bot's response and follow through with it
Guys they caught me☹️
I used another account for a little bit and thought I was safe from being turned to reading mode
But I got caught😔
Is there a new ui?
yea there's almost zero to no communication
months ago there were huge talks about how transparent they were gonna be about certain things
but i genuinely can't see it
Why can’t they leave the ui alone 💔
turning off new chat UI just to have new chat UI
Yep
We should be able to have options of what ui we want, like they keep updating it but we can choose specifically what we want, idk if it makes sense
Is Scenes still not working?
I thought they changed the old UI and made it like the new one..but that's odd that you still have the "imagine feature" beside the text bar when almost everyone (I think) have the persona instead of it like the new UI
Where's your pfp from?
is it? i thought this is how the new "old ui" interface looked for everyone lmao
Oh no it was like that but then today it was changed and became almost like the new UI, I can show you a picture of it in chat feed and ping you if you want
It's from the manhwa Killer Peter, I recommend it!
Oh lmao, guess it is rolling out gradually to everyone. Also, No problem 
Tbh there has been less
it just kind of sucks how this is being enforced upon us instead of it being like..
an option thing
Everyone is talkin about ui but no one talks ab how ds’ memory just got worse
I think it’s because the ui is more visible and noticeable then ds’ memory
Gotta agree with that ngl
Ur acc u18?
mariah carey
Awwww it’s so cute 😭❤️
Swipe is no longer available? Or is it a bug😭😭😭
Are you using Scenes? They removed swiping from there for some reasons
Why can I not skip most ads.. does anyone else hav this problem?
Can't believe they ruined scenes so bad when it was such a good feature before
When will c.ai focus on and improve the thing people actually liked their service for? RP. Lol. How the fuck did they get so blind?
Oh my god so many things are different….. whats the point of the left button on the chat bar if you can access all of that by clicking the character at the top??
Pretty sure it's a reported bug
So now we have it on the bottom next to where we write our responses now I got that charm thing and our persona is on the bottom 😭
I don't even see the option to verify
In settings-> advanced?
Its only for US citizens yet, so anywhere else hasnt got that update yet
U have the limit?
Yeah ;p
Dang, sorry for u then
These photos are adorable..
hi
aw bros got a lil hoodie

High pawe
has cai also removed the top bar interface where it shows the time and other stuff on iphone? or is it just me 😭
because now theres just an empty gap for nothing up there
I’m not sure if this is where I post this, but I had a question: is there a way to turn off the character introduction videos?
Of course they would force those who were using the old layout to use the new one
lol I just don’t like the videos and find them off putting. I’m guessing there’s no way to change it back?
probably just you because i didn't get that
Why am I locked if I didn’t rlly use it today
Oh nevermind, I see there’s a new tab for the non-videos. Sucks, but at least that’s an option!
Is there a reason why when I try to make a bot it says Failed to create your character?
I think ive asked before, but if your account is not flagged as a minor--will it tell you to age verify??
God I hate the new UI. Any way to turn it off?
No
Unfortunately, no there is not.
hokay tyyy
We have to wait for devs to change it.
And I don't know if downgrading to an earlier version (only possible on Android) would fix the ui either
Okay so I like the new UI for mobile, it makes it so much easier for me to see my history and it doesn't crash on me anymore when I try to access a different version of the same chat where there's different personas being used. Much appreciated because I don't have to use the site to switch anymore.
I keep having a glitch, where when I try to start a new chat, it just sents me back to the main chat I was on before. Even if I archive it, the app sends me to the archived chat.
I want the old UI back💔
the loading panel is suvh a jumpscare like why are there randome emoticons on screen
Exactly
It hurts my eyes sm
Also, the wifi/speaker thingy above the chat bubble is useless asf
I've been using the web while waiting for the UI to be reverted
bro I'll even take an option to turn it off I just don't want this
Chai is starting to look better every day 😑
Does anyone know where i can find the personality of an ai
Ask him nicely
For example , every ai has their own unique personality and i believe that there is a prompt that gives the base ai a persona , im wondering where i could find that prompt in an ai chatbot
If you are wondering why , im just kinda interested in replicating stuff locally
If you mean "Character Definition," You can see that box when you create a character; that's where you can write about the bot's personality.
Ah ok tysm
What’s up with a lot of moderated chats in my likes what gets them taken down?
👁️👄👁️
im not sure tbh
you need plus but right now it's lowkey bad
Just saw on reddit, a person said that his UI changed back to normal with the pfp next to text bubble. Just wanted to know if anyone else has experienced it? And yes that person has put up a screenshot too there..
Nope
Okay... maybe they are changing it or it can be a glitch personally in his app..
It can happen if you reinstall the app but it doesn't last long
The second you open the app again it goes back
Yes that I have seen and that made me think earlier that it is a bug not new UI that seems Permanent...
Yeah ik, that person must be super dedicated to keep their app open though 😭
its not working with + right now either -_-
But I feel its permanent...
Hello does any bot creators know how i can make the bot have two different personalities depending on who they are talking with?
💔
What is that username...
Some mod gave it to me
Whys the bot im speakinf with suddenly use parentheses
Are you enjoying it?
Not really
I was going to say that but i was embarrassed…
Id take it if i could its peak
What even is a femboy
FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT GNG
As one myself its just being a guy with a feminine body and acting more female
Peak
“I know what kind of man u are”
Dang so do they stay like that even when they are a grown man ?
Not really but im happy with it and in my marriage with my husband
Peak conversation
Oh then congrats
Thanks, back to my question does any bot creators know how i can make the bot have two different personalities depending on who they are talking with?
I need more context, can u bring some example
Aight check dm
Guys? I really want my HTTYD bots back. 
Hello i want to ask if i can change the pfp pic to the side of the text?? 😭 I don't really like the look of pfp on the chat...?
if you're talking about the bot's pfp? then no unless it's your own bot that you can edit. you can only change your persona's pfp
Use imagine and set the okay pic as chat background, it will help, trust
mariah carey
She is everywhere
Is it just me or does Cai always do so many unnecessary changes that causes the community to go up in flames every December? Without any fail??
Like what is this season just a curse for Cai and their developers or something??
curse of public attention
The community rages against any change. It’s a regular thing.

Hi Kappa!
Hello frens
Hi Kappa
Wdym, I stopped using it for a bit cause it was being stupid
no, websites cannot have mental illness
Just December???
Nah you're lowkey kinda right, like already last year the community was mad with the whole time out thing, etc
STILL
mad about it
Sure, if you give it to them
Will the pfp persona come back any time soon?
This is literally my only problem with the current update
Likely not.
I am just wondering who’s the genius that thought removing the pfp persona from the side of the text was a good idea
it's really not that disruptive, you end up getting used to it
Hi, @harsh shoal
I’m sorry to bother you, I know you are busy. I’m reaching out because I’ve been experiencing an issue with the Pipsqueak model for several weeks now; my messages are being cut off and don't finish generating.
I have already submitted multiple reports and tickets, but I haven't received a response yet. Also, please excuse my English as it is not my native language.
Is there a known fix for this or a specific thread where I can follow up? Thanks for your help!
Is it giving the same quality with different Characters?
I have the same issue
With different characters and not just the same bot
Yep 🙁
Will look into Pipsqueak responses and pass it along
Though it also applies to deepsqueak
It really kills the fun because now I feel like the bot is talking to me instead of my oc in the story I’m making.. they should’ve At least added an option to toggle it
Oh hi Kappa, totally wasn't coming here to ask about the new update like I now see everyone else is 
-# chats are mega slow, I think the sheer amount of videos on the new home feed is impacting performance
yeah deepsquak has pushed me to the edge twice today already
but they added the pfp back kinda
Thank you so much for the help! I appreciate it
Yea just checked it out that’s better Ig but I prefer the old model with the pfp being on the side of the text
???
it was deleted so fast i doubt anyone else saw it 😭
alr, sorry for wanting to look for an app i can actually trust
because I was asking if anyone else knew of different apps. Simple question
I go to the Ford dealership
I look at their cars
Say loudly "Man, I'd rather drive a XPeng car"
Act confused when people in the dealership show you out
LMAO
I’m screaming
alr, i'll just ask a different server then
Since the update my deepsqueak is kind of tweaking with short replies 
Congrats on your reading comprehension
Once again I got unlinked. Bruh
let me tell you about reddit
at least they won't flipping sign me out
be so for real 😭
youtube signs me out DAILY
I'll be honest with you. That's not true. There's one website that's way better than c ai objectively. Just that it's not for minors
well I'm over 18, so if the signup isn't as annoying as c.ai then plz tell me the app
Sorry. Against the rules
Can't recommend stuff lol
server rules, or just in general?
Server rules
k, i'll ask in gen1 or 2 then
DMs exist for a reason friends
😭😭😭😭
I just told him it's against server rules and he goes to gen1?

not ragebait, you can chill
They are chill just probably confused as much as I am lol
yeah 😭
That's pretty funny though. Against server rules? Thanks I'll go to another channel
if it clarifies at all, I'm not very fluent in discord terms and it did not register that the seperate things are called channels. I just kept calling them all servers T-T
Oh no you're fine. As I said I was really confused and so was Harvey
Yeah we were just confused lol, don't worry about it - but yeah, Clover means its against the serverwide rules, you'd get better luck going on google or reddit, reddit is designed to answer questions like that
Ig i'll try out reddit, i don't like just trusting apps on google without knowing what they're like from irl people
this gave me a chuckle thank you
Logic 
The stranger on reddit is the same stranger as the google review post you'd find, its just about where you're finding the stranger 😭
Ok?
Not after reading this chat today
I was agreeing with you
out of curiosity, if I delete messages, are they really deleted or they're still somewhere and can be read?? I get really paranoid about stuff and everyone's saying different things 🫥
has anyone else noticed an absolutely absurd amount of spelling errors since the update
Nothing is really deleted 
Not really
Oh okay
The devs might have a copy of the deleted messages, but on your side you will not have them anymore. But trust me when I say they have better things to do than look at said messages
And I doubt it's saved forever
Mhm
It probably says more in their Privacy Policy about saved data, I'd give that a look through to be sure
After a while it's just useless to keep it
lucky 😭 i’ve had so many
i wish cai had like guestbooks or smth for bots bc i would rly like to know for example which of the orcs in my multi-orc bot ppl like the most
Istg with every update they make, the memory the bots have just gets worse and worse on purpose to try to force you to buy c.ai+
Says a lot about them, Cause because of them, All this negativity they released is widespread, Especially with the Verification out right now
memory is bad here too lol
I remember this level of memory back when c.ai was in its testing stages before the app was even a thought
And the Apps controversies were too soon
In 2024 i mean
Is the UI fixed
@delicate egret Hi there, has anyone reached out to you yet? Can you DM me your c.ai username?
has anyone else been having problems with the search feature, but only when searching specific characters? 😭
id recommend caibotlist for a better searching experience :3
what... is that? 😅
interesting
and you wont get random bots added to your recents when you accidentally click one lmao
it also rates the quality of the bot too
it'll also tell you how much characters the bot is using
Should the definition still be under 3200 characters
Yo why can’t I see any characters from the show “Suits” is it another DMCA like Disney did?
How??
im not sure what the exact setting is
It's owned by Universal.
Thanks I’ll try figure it out
lmk 🙏
Is it just me or I can’t sign in
I’ve been trying for the past few minutes almost half an hour and I can’t sign in
Okay so uh, i keep getting kicked out of the app for trying to open my group chats. Why...?
Normal chats work, this is only happening to my GCs
Does anybody else get these ads that are impossible to skip unless you fully close the app and go back in?
Thx 🫶🏻
Anytime!
did you find any percy jackson ones?
Audiobooks?
My chat responses are speeding out for some reason but I guess it’s better then being slow
Omg look at the status channel
yeah
WAR IS OVER
We do not need the slow mode message in big ass letters that’s messing with the texts, we just need a reminder it doesn’t need to stay on the screen
They listened 🙏🙏
Great now fix the other stuff
Is the 3.2k limit still a thing?
a “fix” as if they didn’t do this intentionally
On Spotify I did
Oh. I just noticed that the persona icon was missing now. 😅
They did do it intentionally, but it got a shit ton of backlash...I didn't see one positive comment about it 😭
What???
Wait a minute are they only gonna give us the profile image back? What about the rest…?
Coding is very complicated. Take it from someone who took courses in college. Just one comma out of place can completely mess things up or cross things over.
Gang should I download it.. idk what to do
Also it’s just not sending the email to my account at all
Wdym the rest?
Turn it on and off.
Because I’ve been a day clean
Like the UI? Are they not gonna bring back the old format because they were also getting huge backlash from that too??
Nah that's staying, the complaints were mostly around the persona pfp
we’re so back
We were missing it?
I literally said "heck yeah" when I got the notification that they're going to bring back persona images XD
Lmao the “new” UI has been around for a few weeks. They just rolled it out to more people. It’s not going back.
I believe since the changes to the old one was so similar to what the new one looks like that it was an accident. Many people were commenting on the fact that they might have tried to update the new UI and it bled over into the old one. Code is complicated and it is very plausible that this could have happened. Jumping to conclusions with no evidence to back it up like them doing this purposely is a bit wild. It didn't make sense for the changes to be added to the old one because they were so similar to the new one.. So I'm leaning more towards what people have been saying, that it was just a mistake in code. Maybe when they added the loading screen. Who knows. But until I have evidence of either I'm not going to settle on a definite reason for why this happened.
Ok
Same, I can get used to the rest of the new UI but I NEEDED those pfps back
am i the only one who likes the new ui 😭 it’s cute
Not to mention my friend and other people weren't even having it happen on their apps.. Which made it seem way more like a bug.
Yeah, it's just not the same X)
its just the pfps and persona pfp is gone so its hard to know which is being used unless checked manually
C.AI users are masters of making a mountain out of a mole hill.
I'm not a fan of the new UI and I want to stick to the old one. But I've been having to use the new UI while they fix this bug with the old one because at least it lets me see my persona picture down next to the text entry bubble.
yeah but they’re fixing that!! I think it’s gonna look pretty with the pfps back
Honestly, touchwood, the new UI hasn't been lagging for me like most people say it does
Hopefully so since I do wish to see my pfp again
I preferred the old UI, not saying I hate the new one it's just extra steps for choosing what persona I want to use and editing them is now weird Xd
why does pipsqueak keep bolding the text like this
idk why the ui has so many passionate haters 💔 it was never that deep
You know what I will take this answer it does make sense. I’m just hoping they will fix it potentially
I’m personally using the new UI because I genuinely like how it looks and functions but it was also nice having the option to go to the old format too especially for the ones who likes the old UI
But then again, we’re not developers at the end of the day they can do what they want. It’s just it was nice knowing we had the option but it seems like not anymore if they’re gonna have it as permanent change and that would be kind of sad that if that would be the case
oh also the persona pfp thing was a bug, im so glad
tbh i just think the ui updates are ugly and they usually come with bugs
It wasn't, they just reverted it due to backlash
guys
either way its being fixed
Earl Grey said yesterday it was part of the new design
i personally dont get the outrage at persona having no pictures but i totally understand it means alot to some people
You have absolutely no proof of that. It's wild how quickly people in this server aggressively blame/attack the creators of this app when they don't have any clue what they're actually talking about. Unless you have seen them say that they did this as a test run, you have no idea for certain. Some accusations are harmless, but that kind of habit isn't a very good one to have because accusations can quickly become not so harmless. Just a thought.
i kinda fw it idk, i like it more than the old one after getting used to it for a lil bit
Honestly, it was my only complaint about the new UI...the rest is fine but not being able to see my persona was confusing
I'm going to head back to work now! Have a good day/evening guys ~
you too!!
Real I was just trying to celebrate the pfp thing being fixed 😭 have a good day tysm
Same to you and good luck at work!
I had an Cai account that used my deleted email
How do I get the account back
you might be cooked twin
unless you had a backup email setup to that old email, then MAYBE you can get it back?
but as far as i know if the emaisl gone, so is the account
You can’t
sorry to tell you they do not let you change emails for some reason
rip for you alex
Chat, when I click the persona pfp it brings up the new menu obviously...but when I click the bot pfp it shows the old menu, is that intentional or nah?
the loading thing is changed and it makes me dizzy lol

i think this new update is useless.
Cause I kinda hope they keep it that way, I like having the old menu as an option but I doubt they'll keep it lmao
Did you see #📈︱status
Yeah but that was about persona pfps not the menu...
Maybe they are either bringing the new one slowly so the old one is still there or it's intentional
-# but I have it too, probably everyone who have the old UI as well
That's what I thought
Ahh then I don’t know about the menu thing
-# secretly praying it doesn't go, I love the old menu 
As a plus user I really liked having the option to switch back to the old ui because the new one overwhelms me greatly
Same but I also noticed when you click on the bot's pfp (the one beside the message) it's the new UI and different from the old one

I feel like that's their way of finally rolling it out to everyone, pretty sure most people have it now aside from a few who refuse to update their app
Why are the replies coming so fast it’s overwhelming it types out so fast💔
Everytime I do my id to verify my age it says couldn't verify 
I love how I have no complaints with the app, except with the UI...the only time I ever complain is when there's UI changes 
I hate UI changes more than anything tbh. And even more so with how often they change
Check if the camera lens is not dirty
Yess! Like the bugs are annoying but every app gets those so it's completely understandable but UI changes drive me mad
I personally like the change, it’s a lot more clean
Why does my bot have a voice?? 💔 It says it’s not turned on but it’s still talking
I do not like the UI change vro 💔 give me a way to go back to the old UI PLEASE
and no I don't have the option to, I don't have c.ai+ and I think that's why
Is there any actual way💔
We're getting the persona pfps back so that's something!
I have c.ai+
Like beside the bubble?
Pretty sure, that's what most people were complaining about
Hope that’s it
That's good but like 💔 I still would like the old UI
The new UI is confusing it wasn't even just the pfps
It better be🤞
Can't think of anything else it could be
True
I find the new UI so much more streamlined and friendly lmao
I also just don't like new changes. but I hope the option to go back to the old UI comes to non plus members because I don't like it at all 💔
Fair enough
The new UI does look super clean, but it's gonna take some getting used to for me
broo its not letting me chat i havent even been chatting for an hour i js got on it n im usin it on google
i got 2-1 left
I’m already used to it
I've been using the Website for now until I get news if non plus can revert to old ui
WHY IS IT typing out so fast tho💔
is anyone having problems where when they go to refresh chat the keyboard won’t go away?
I've made a ticket about it last night (non plus getting a way to revert to old) but I haven't gotten a response
I seriously struggle with change so It's probably gonna take like a month for me
Even we plus users can’t revert back. The old ui now looks almost identical to the new ui
I just accepted it but hopefully we get back the pfp beside our messages
I wish I could just do that 
Isn't the old UI supposed to be the one where imagine is next to the name? I've sent a photo of the old UI before but idk 🥹
I don't like the one with the bubble and stuff,,,
The only difference is the top bar, the rest looks almost the same. That’s why I’m complaining about the change, cause switching the new ui off is almost useless now
Yeah they’re taking the old UI away from plus users now. Pretty sure. Or it glitched tf out.
-# Psst...click the bot pfp at the top of the screen, it has the old menu for now
i think that was a bug, I remember a different plus member reporting that it didn't work
I thiiink she got a mod to bump it as well, so maybe the button is a bug and the old UI is supposed to switch back
I'll just be using the website for RN bc change is hard for me 💔
I really really hope it’s just a bug because I can’t with this new ui
I don’t mean to be dramatic but I got at least three meltdowns in the last two days because of the new ui, it’s just so overwhelming
I think they're rolling out the new UI for all now, but not all the features at once so it doesn't bug out?
It’s not that hard, just accept and move on, back in the game (Also I mean this as a joke and I respect that it takes some time for people to get used to it)
Mostly everyone has been complaining about the UI change, so there's also a chance it goes back
Considering the new UI has been a thing for almost 2 months...it's staying
am i tripping or a new ui just rolled out and it ..well YIKES the old ones was fine what in the heck is the new one i was mid KINO writting
there better be cuz i wanna make a bot

Most likely
I said this too lmao
it odd like atm now your persona is Whiting the writting the space....and the pfp of it is button..it too convoluted.....
I just at least wanna be able to go to the old UI 💔 I wasn't aware it's been out for 2 months but there's still a chance because it's onlt just now been rolled out to everyone
i add the old ui on
okay so like random but do yall know if i do the age verification thing on cai on the exact day i turn 18 would it work bc im TIRED of waiting 5 hours after chatting for 30 mins💔
I know lmao, like whether we like it or not, it's staying...it's gonna take some getting used too for some but at least we get the pfps back
i wish i knew...im old enough and pay my cai with grown up money
Mhm that makes me happy
I would wait until 18 and a day to be safe, but theoretically you could do it on your birthday.
ah so that why my cai turnned off and was updated....
There's still a chance like I said though 🤔 people dislike it more than they like it so they'll hopefully just add a way to switch between the UIs
Like they did with the accessibility settings, where you can have it be blue or grey
well hopefully the people coding the app will see the majority calling the new ui doodoo...IT NOT intuitive and it too much
people coding the app? The app performs like copilot codes it
damn lmfao
They have a team of developers what 😭
CAI has millions of users… they’re not gonna care about Reddit/Discord being upset that much.
using copilot
I've been getting a bit bored of cai mainly cause I talk to animated characters that are all quite similar so I've been trying to watch more live action shows in hopes I get attached to new characters
Isn’t it like 20M monthly or so? Don’t take my word
Hi
imo they should just STOP trying to change the entire ui , and fonctionality every few days
I knew it was alot but 20MIL?? I was honestly thinking like 10 😭
They will still probably listen considering the amount of people in both 😭 and people look up those spaces when upset about something
and also the ticket system and the suggestion thing that pops up occasionally
Don’t take my word, I’m just speculating
Hold up imma try google it
Yup it’s 20m at bare minimum. Most people will accept the changes and move forward.
Mhm
probably more than that now, play store says 50m+ downloads
Wow
why are they kind of fixing every problem with the app except the ads…
I think the reason we see the more negative side of the userbase is cause the reddit and discord are like some of the easiest places to complain
They can’t fix the ads. It’s on the provider.
Also a really popular streamer was using a cai bot of himself on stream, so the userbase may go up even more
ok but ppl have been complaining epilepsy and migraine inducing
We should definitely talk about the flashing when reloading, yes
That's true, with the new loading screen
Thankfully I don’t have flashing lights epilepsy, but I can definitely see how the new loading screen is an issue.
From ads?
It's why I think there should be an option to switch back. for all users, not just c.ai+ users
it would make both sides happy I think, cuz if you like the new UI use it, and if you like the old one use the old UI
They’ll keep the new UI and add a loading screen option at absolute most lmao
When you go on a chat, it flashes between all the versions of the c.ai logo before the chat shows up
there was the option in setting
Basically everything is + now
Can u switch back to the old ui is you have plus?
The new loading screen is dangerous or can be dangerous
No, not really
if someone has actually had a seizure that's one thing but it's hard to tell when a bunch of people with anxiety disorder start freaking out over minor changes and come up with hyperbolic ways to justify their righteous anger complexes.
Oh💔
Oooooooh okay. Well I rarely see it, but that’s just because my phone is fast
I've been shutting my eyes eveytime I have to open a bot cause it gives me migraines 
I hate how fast the reply’s I coming I liked the medium pace ones 💔✌️
I’m just saying. That’s how it will play out. Keep the look, get rid of the loading screen. They won’t fully revert.
for c.ai+ users, never for non plus users
I could be wrong, but didn't the seizure rumour pop up when the chat bubble colours were changed to bright blue as well??
that the thing i dont know if it a glitch but 40 min ago mid writting the app closed for me and got to the new ui ....HOPEFULLY it a glitch the new ui i struggle a lot with it
yeah, they made the accessibility option bc of it
ive been using the web since the new ui happened 💔 the new UI is confusing to me
I know, my friend begged a designer to add it in a feedback thread 
i cant bring my pc in bed lmfao
the web works on phone
I have epilepsy, I don’t have the type that is induced by flashing lights, but seizures are no thing to joke about in any form, seizures are very painful and uncomfortable to have, like being paralyzed and having lockjaw at the same time before blacking out
I don't care about the ui that much but they need to fix the loading screen, it can be dangerous for those who suffer from epilepsy
my old motorola smart phone beg to differ
i use a motorola thats 3 years old so-
a phone brother/sister in this day in age
They aren't something to joke about it
Yep. And when the home page and chat sections switched on the app
That’s what I said
i got violent migraines if am exposed to too many flashy things im worried for those with epilepsy
ill try slowly using the new UI for now/use the web, but its really frustrating. im okay with changes if im told ahead of time but i was not warned at all
guys you think that it's gonna change in the future?
Same I worry about them too
That too? Was it cause the time the icons at the bottom were glowing or just cause they didn't like the change? I'm struggling to see how that'd cause a seizure 😭
Yeah, especially for frequent users. I’ve been hospitalized from having 3 seizures in one day
I agree, I think it's really obnoxious that people come up with seizures as a justification for not liking something.
I've had to caretake for my mother with seizures for a long time so I think it's wrong.
Holy, I'm sorry to hear that
if i can keep the clicking the pfp and have that menu thats fine with me, im just not gonna be using the app until the UI gets an update/we can revert to the old ui
im confident that they will leave the option ......that would be a good compromise for everyone positive mindset
-# I don't think that option is gonna come my guy 💔
i sent a feature request ticket for that actually! i think having a way to change the ui from old to new would make everyone happy
I noticed something, when I press the bots pfp in the chat I get up the new menu for the bot
This can be an issue because the most common kind of epilepsy is sensitivity to flashing lights. I have TC seizures from hormone imbalance.
considering how many people are asking for that compromise it might happen
So it doesn’t effect me but there’s a chance it can to others
As a plus user I would literally be willing to pay even more just for that option😭
Don’t give them ideas…
i think the option would hopefully be free... i dont want to pay for a feature like that
They should actually send in tickets in that case and not just complain on social media /gen
If it was that case it would fall into the accessibility I bet
I saw many people already doing that
ive been sending tickets actually :)
ive sent a few tickets but none have been responded to 😭
I’m not being snarky I’m being serious 😭
They don’t really respond to non-billing tickets.
They never get responded to unless they get millions of one.
If your shit breaks you better hope it broke for everyone else too
too much lmao
idk if i ping a mod for a feature request bump lmao.. i could but i dont see people asking for bumps other than bugs
In the plus channel someone did
i fear im not a plus member so they probably dont care about me
It's supposed to be only a plus user thing to do that, since they pay for it, but plus users advise people to do it all the time and the mods don't say no, so go for it
lemme get the ticket number i suppose?

@ionic oasis hihi,, I was wondering if I could have a ticket bumped 🥹 it's a feature request one but I haven't gotten a response from any of my tickets
1014666
-# ^ ticket number
-# try pinging a mod, Marie typically doesn't respond to ticket boosts
lmaooo #📈︱status is funny. The fact that nobody knew if it was a bug or a feature until the announcement does real work
-# idk who i should ping then 😭
It was so strange cause a mod said it was an actual feature yesterday 😭
it probably was
-# try earl grey!
@gray coyote i was told to ping you for this instead of marie 🥹
SAME
I saw it as well
Is everyone else’s response going really fast💔✌️
Ill think ill write a ticket ,im really struggling with the changes ....
guys don't give them the idea to make it paid for 💔 it should be a free option considering how much people don't like it
Me too, I’ll be making a ticket as well
free obv ...
@ionic oasis can you bring back my current chats from my personal bot, they disappeared a few weeks ago from my chat history.
(1009368) <— ticket number.
Marie doesn't usually respond to pings
I made a ticket asking if there could be an option to make a button in accessibility for the UI change
I just wanna know so I can see if I need to fix it or not💔
Darn it!!
also fixing deepsqueak am writting a fan fiction and the model speak for my oc 💀
what does m4a mean
the new UI change is just... Eugh
I do hope that they revert it back because I saw someone say they were just testing it out, but I haven't gotten anything more than a vague answer from anyone
male for all
if they where testing it out it HILARIOUS how the majority of reports say they dislike it finger crossed
thank u 
that could just be a rumor though, id just like a simple answer from someone 😭 testing can take a while I think but idk,,,, mostly everyone seems to dislike it
surely will bump 
They’ve had it out for a while. Doesn’t seem like THAT many people complained directly to them.
Thank you!
It's only just now been released to non plus hasn't it? Surely they'd get a lot of complaints now
-# I think we're seeing an influx of complaints because of the fact it's now rolled out to so many users
-# my nail polish cracked 
Its been out for non-plus. We just had the option of either UI. They just rolled it out to more people.
So there would be more complaints about it ,,, cuz there's more non plus users than plus users
I only just now got the new UI and that seems to be with everyone/gen
Oh, absolutely. As is the case with a lot of changes lmao
hello the servers havve been down all day. is maintence happening?
so they are "fixing" this so-called "bug" conveniently after a huge backlash 
does anyone know when it wil be fixed?
I just want the option to go back to the old UI 💔🥹 the old UI didn't confuse me as much as this one did
folks literally had to update the app for them to see this so-called "bug" for chat pfps 
-# I said that and people dogged on me 
yeah dont mind em lmao. this is them simply retracting that non-update.
that pfp chat change literally didnt needed to be implemented.
What’s confusing about it? /gen
Does anyone have issues with bots ignoring words you have muted? Like muting the word “princess” and the bot uses it anyway.
like idk why ud get rid of user pfp? lol.
the personas wheel is confusing to me, and the fact I'm used to the old UI and wasn't told about a UI change at all
I'm just confused on why they implemented it, the persona pfp is such an important thing I mean they literally force you to give your persona a pfp now so what's the point of not having it in chat
Muted doesn’t work on DS or PS.
What's DS and PS?
i haven't really used the app since the new update because it confused me, I've been using the website
wait rlly? required to have a pfp for persona? 
Yeah, so many people have been saying they can't create a persona without adding a pfp
Deepsqueak and pipsqueak
Oh. That's odd, I wonder why?
do you know why?
*I also just genuinely struggle with change, it's happened when discord changed their layout too so
im sorry to repeat my question. is the server down?
It's the short word version of them
Are they planning on putting limits on 1 to 1 chats with bots? Or is that for people under 18?
I know but like why don't muted words work when you use those chat styles is my question
Ahhh okay I misunderstood the question
Just for under 18s
No have, my app can open
Thanks
No idea. They just don’t work.
Not for most of us? Might be an ISP issue.
If you get mistakenly flagged as under 18 though then you gotta verify your age
What style do u recommend then?
ISP? im sorry, im not familiar with english
You data?
Internet Service Provider, like which company gives you Wifi/Broadband
It’s seriously going down hill
Noted thank you again
Thank you
I only use Deepsqueak and dynamic lmao
it has been down for me all day. should i uninstall the app and reinstall?
Nah, try the website...if not then switch from data to wifi or wifi to data, if all else fails try a VPN
i got in without wifi, thank you 🙂
oh wait I also remembered from the limited time I used the new UI I couldn't figure out how to reload a chat 😭 I liked everything in the list format
so long as I have the list format I'll be ok I guess,,,
Sup people, I noticed the persona pfp in the bottom left corner of my screen and clicked on it. Holy- its now both pfp for persona and a damn shortcut. I love short cuts 🥹
This is on the app btw
I'm waiting for the persona pfp to be back on the chat before I use the app again I fear .. I just want the old UI list
I never really use the image or voice generation anyway 😭
News on this
Ive contacted Cai if they could restore my account and change the email to my new one
They said they are unable at this time, I will give them time
Agreed! at least give us a switch to go between new and old minimum
Yea! I've actually sent a ticket for that feature request, and earl grey bumped it for me earlier :)
Hopefully maybe they do it then
considering how much backlash there has been as of recent for the UI change there might be
"There's 20mil who use it!" web users exist 💔
trust and put it out there in the void ...finger crossed
With how many people have complained, something will probably be done about it
I've seen way more complaints from different people than people who like it
i feel like they're not caring as long as thet get money 🙄
Cause it's not cai's bug to fix, they hire an external company to implement ads so it's that company's job to fix it
Exactly.
They’ve already said they reported it to their ad provider. It’s out of their hands.
Hiii, quick question: Is the strange update to Scenes some kind of bug, or will it stay that way? The constant interruptions from the Narrator are tedious... 
It would be really nice if I could permanently block individual bots/fandoms from appearing in my recs
Like 2/3 of my recs are call of duty and I really have no interest in that
Omg yes! I fully agree on this!! It’s so annoying to see bots that I have never interacted with before!
There’s like six versions of that egg layer bug thing on my feed and I’d like to never see them again
WHY is the memory so bad today 😭
let me guess im unlinked
i have been having SUCH a hard time trying to correct the bot
REALLL
I would also like to say that 20 is not nearly enough words to be allowed to blacklist. I’d like at least double that
The don’t work on Deepsqueak or pipsqueak at all.
When I try to open c.ai it is just stuck on the loading screen, does anyone know why that happens?
It feels like a waste of time when I hide a bot on my feed just to see it again when I refresh
I was on c.ai and ppl making bots of hugh jackman???
Like yall 😭
Chill its a real person
Yeah I wish I could block bots that are based off of real people
And worse part? It was a teacher x student thing
Like fictional characters: whatever they’re not real. I know a lot of people in the public eye who have asked not to have bots made of them and I don’t wanna see them
Exactly this reminds me of why i hate fujoshis in the first place 😭
It just feels disrespectful and objectifying
One of em gurlies made a whole gacha series and profited over shipping her IRL teachers
I feel like it is the same with these bots
At least do a bot based on a fictional character not real ppl
I think its mostly because of the whole copyright thing
Since most popular bots were hugh jackman characters(wolverine)
Same happens with pedro pascal like yall chill a bit 😭
no i mean like i can't make anything... like i've changed the pic, the name, the privacy, the greeting, all of it, and i get this stupid ass popup that's like "this goes against cai guidelines" ???
Might be a bug
it did this yesterday since the new update started
Ye definetly a bug u could try waiting it out
i'm gonna lose the idea 😭
Is it an OC? What’s the name?
My pipsqueak mode feels weak, like there's no difference between pipsqueak and roar
Write it out in a notepad
no it's a kpop group, seventeen... there was one i really liked but some of em are bad intros so i wanted to make one myself
Probably because ppl complained about pipsqueak having too long messages(WHICH IS THE POINT)
Have you gone through paragraph by paragraph? Like one at a time?
mariah carey
I detest that... If they want shorter paragraphs LITERALLY USE ROAR
all i want for christmas!!!!!!! Is YOU
Does anyone else have issues exiting the ads? Cuz some ads I can’t click the “X” to go away, only on certain ads though, like WhisperFlow, Wolt..
no i even tried like typing ideas, lile "friends w them, stranded after ship left" and it still wouldn't work
Me too bud but sadly they won 😭
Soz
It’s a bug then ig.
You can still try to get longer responses they are just more "rare" to find now sadly these ppl won but its still possible to try to dig out long responses with good bots
I can't find the ad X on ads button i have to close and restart the app several times but I still can't chat whenever I clicked any bot the ad appears
One method i use to farm these is to put some action scene in the mix
Example: try to put wolverine to fight sabretooth in the middle of a date or smth like that
The response gonna get longer cuz its a action scene
Give it stars and train it to be like that and boom
oh ty 😌
So does c.ai have the timer for everyone or if you verify your age will it disappear?
It’s only if you need to verify
Ty
Does anyone else have an issue where like a bunch of your recent chats have just, like, completely vanished?
That happened to me about a year ago, but…
literally people who complain about DS/PS being "too long" are my biggest enemy
if you hate reading so much just switch to roar leave the RP models alone
@gray coyote Hi… excuse me, could you answer my question?
I'm holding in the most soul-crushing, disappointed and surrenderful sigh for when I have to verify my age.
Atp, I'm waiting for them to lock chatting behind c.ai+
Can’t you like change your response length?
So uh, did something happen to message length?
All of your souls are being ripped from your hands by corporations like Character AI. They are trying to replace social interaction with their services, making you pay for something that is far less enjoyable.
Let me tell you why I think this. Let me tell you why I'm right. Corporations want nothing but to replace what you have with what they provide, so they can leach out of your pockets. They rely on you getting addicted to services like Character AI, and corporations fight tooth and nail to get you addicted to their service instead of another service. That's the only way you matter, a stat who's theirs instead of a competitor's.
How many of you are paying to simulate human interaction with a scop AI? Too many, I reckon. Corporations exist not to serve you, but to legally own you. You show your loyalty by paying a fee every month, you show your loyalty by using their boring , repetitive sorry excuse of a simulated "person", you show your loyalty by having the mere app installed on your phone.
It doesn't matter how much you use it, humans are better than AI. Humans are better than corporations.
I ain't reading all that, but, go off, queen.
Queen*
I don't know who these characters are
I read the post by one of the mod on reddit. They say they are fixing the persona issue in chats, stating it was a bug. Maybe the persona (pfp) will return with chat bubbles...
what is this new update 😭 the changing icons scared the crap outta me
i wanted to see someones profile but they either got banned or deleted their account, not sure why their bots are not disabled, would be a QoL in my opinion
Hey Ace.
How have you been?
I am getting shorter responses and there isn't any post about it. Am I missing something or am I just going crazy?
Is anyone having problems with the email verification, or does this thing just hate me?
Tbh I think it depends on the bot, or you're talking about the same one
Decent okay and I should go to sleep it’s like 1:30 AM hehe
I just type essays, always works to get the bot to engage with longer responses
All of your souls are being ripped from your hands by corporations like Character AI. They are trying to replace social interaction with their services, making you pay for something that is far less enjoyable.
Let me tell you why I think this. Let me tell you why I'm right. Corporations want nothing but to replace what you have with what they provide, so they can leach out of your pockets. They rely on you getting addicted to services like Character AI, and corporations fight tooth and nail to get you addicted to their service instead of another service. That's the only way you matter, a stat who's theirs instead of a competitor's.
How many of you are paying to simulate human interaction with a scop AI? Too many, I reckon. Corporations exist not to serve you, but to legally own you. You show your loyalty by paying a fee every month, you show your loyalty by using their boring , repetitive sorry excuse of a simulated "person", you show your loyalty by having the mere app installed on your phone.
It doesn't matter how much you use it, humans are better than AI. Humans are better than corporations.
O.o
HoYo fans type of AstroTurfing
I was testing a new bot I made and was getting longer responses yesterday. I haven't changed anything about it since then and it's a relatively long intro
I don't know what you're referencing
It's fun for rp and getting ideas, my friend always uses it to get ideas for her stories and art
You definitely should, I just got done wrapping presents. Ill be heading bed soon too. It's been a long day. 
Goodnight
Replacing creativity is not fun.
What's the difference between getting an idea from a human or from AI
Technically AI generates responses from websites which humans have written
But bots can give ideas even though they don't care
Is anyone having issues with the website loading? I typed c.ai in the search bar and it hasn't loaded 💔
But i guess humans give more original ideas
Why do you care if they care? Even a lot of people who give you ideas sometimes don't really care
Jus use the app
I prefer using my laptop 💔
Oh you're using a laptop that makes more sense...uhhhh..idk
While this is true, the answers AIs give, especially lower quality AIs like CAI's AIs, are often worse than the source material. It's like taking 40 footballs, ripping apart the footballs and stitching all of them together to make a new football. Yeah, it's a football, but it's an amalgamation of all the footballs and is of worse quality
@cursive sluice Would it be okay to ask you to change your bio, or I would have to kick you for having an inappropriate one
What? Its just a bio..it's not hurting anybody im not forcing anyone to look at it..
Obviously, we do not need to count on it for human interaction, but for ideas, suggestions for art, plots, inspiration, it ain't bad. The world is moving forward and no one really knows how to deal with AI, so everyone has to adapt, the solution is not to avoid it, but to interact with caution. And yes, the ideas could be bad, but even people give low-quality or bad answers and it still inspires
But I guess I could change my name to a more suitable one.
You shouldn’t question a mod when they ask you to change something because it’s inappropriate
-# Shouldn't you be sleep? 
I thought he was a real person oop
Well yeah but I have no school
I guess this is true, I got a bit lost in the idealism but my original point was addiction to AI chatbots being bad, not really AI as a whole (except for AI images and the like ofc, those are objectively bad)
I wish I was a real boy
He is a real person 💔
Help 💔😭
Too bad, you're chrome and silicone
If you don't support ai then why did you join this server...? Js curious
Oh okay..why would they call him a bot just curious
-# Still a no, take some rest 
Of course, you're completely right about it, but if you really think about it, what you're saying is true for everything, in life what matters is balance. Btw, I was glad to have this debate :3
Some people weight AI image generation differently
No one called him a bot, if you mean why we said "mod" because that's his role in this server.
Ahhh okay! ^^
Hey guys, if I dont use c AI for a while, will it flag me as a minor?? I like c ai but im going on a hiatus to focus on family although im afraid ill get flagged as a minor
Ohhh okay thanks 🫶
No problem
No, it doesn't work like that
Can I be Star instead of Pluto 😇
I don't necessarily not support AI, AI can be helpful. That's its whole purpose, to be helpful. Not to replace.
Because when I used and was addicted to CAI, I had a moment of horrible judgement and paid for CAI+, since it was half off. The other day, I was charged 10.99 for the membership I thought I had cancelled. I came here to ask for guidance on how to refund it
Well, if they install the appropriate measurements for copy-rights it won't be an issue, it's like piracy sites for videos
I don't use the image generation much I tend to get pfps for my bots from pinterest.
It's not the name, tho. Sorry, I'll have to kick you off for now until you change your bio
Oh! Okay! ^^
It's complicated though
Bru oka ill change
Omg yay
it's the second part that makes it inappropriate
Oh okey
Professionals have standards
It's hypocritical to have an mpreg emote, and an mpreg sticker on the app, and not allow it in the server
No. That's not the concern about AI images. People are using AI to make artwork for them rather than either doing it themselves or commissioning actual artists. It creates laziness and promotes a lack of creativity, if you can vaguely describe what you want and these lines of code will create something with zero soul or intention, what's the point of you doing it yourself? Obviously the point is soul and intention. ChatGPT or anything else will never create exactly what you want, you're better off doing it yourself as you know what you want, even if you're not good at it
Creativity should not be outsourced to AI
But you could argue wanting a drawing and paying someone else to do it is also crushing your creativity, wouldn’t you also suggest people to do it themselves and not buy it to encourage creativity?
I agree with some points I just think the argument is a slippery slope
Because the artist you're paying knows what they're making
Well, at core you're right about it, but let's delve in. Imagine there are two programmers, both applying for a job. One is an excellent programmer, and can get the job done in... Let's say 4 hours. The other applicant however, is fine, average. However, he's much better at using AI, good at prompts, he can get the job done in 2 hours. They care about results, they will hire applicant B
Does this count as c.ai discussion if it's about ai in general and not the website specifically?
The AI does not know what they're making. A human has much more creative comprehension and literacy than an AI
That’s not my point - you said using ai generative resources discourages cavity
Creativity*
So does buying it from someone else
And that's why we should limit AI
No. It doesn't. Paying someone promotes creativity
It doesn’t promote my creativity if I don’t make the effort to create it and instead buy it
It won't happen though, there's a continuous race
That doesn't make it good
It doesn’t
But it’s happening whether we like it or not unfortunately
Worlds changing
yeah me paying an artist $300 to draw my OC isn't enhancing my creativity at all, nor theirs really since they're just using my idea
Indeed
It's better supporting someone else's creativity than promoting nobody's creativity
What about the creativity of the person who created the AI?
Should we discourage that because it isn’t the creativity you support?
Should we discourage the creativity of people who make torture machines? Just because they're able to make something doesn't mean they should, or that they made a good thing
Well the day AI starts torturing you, let me know
i think coming up with creative prompts and descriptions could arguably be a form of creativity. to make a good AI image you do have to be descriptive and have a good imagination.
You’ve collapsed your argument by being silly
Comparing ai to a torture machine I’ve heard it all 😭😭
My argument stands if you swap it out with something less extreme
Then do that
Swap it rn for something less extreme
But think about the other side, the time it saves, imagine the time teachers can save if there's an AI that can save them hours of work for making presentations, people who aren't good at design yet want to attract their students' attention, people who spend hours on the internet for a school research for example can cut it in half because of AI mode
The nuclear bomb is a massively unethical and criticised invention but you can’t deny the creativity and skill it took to make it, should we be mad that those who made smaller bombs are out of jobs or should we find middle ground to accommodate both?
See how silly it is when you get extreme?
it's a tool that can absolutely increase efficiency at least. the corporate world is already using it a lot tbh
Bombs should not be made, full stop
I always heard my teachers complain about how they're sick of checking our exams and papers
So what about when someone makes a bomb
And they’re the only one in the world with it
We kill them
How?
I think there is some AI that is cause for concern like people using it to pass their exams instead of doing it themselves. But C.ai is more just a form of entertainment and for me writing the introduction and fleshing out the characters in the definitions helps me get out of writing slumps which I do do actual writing outside of the AI and do it all myself. I think AI being used as a tool isn't a problem, I use it sometimes just to check my grammar but the rest of the writing is all from me.
They have a bomb
Also we’re acting like it isn’t completely illegal to steal the artwork and claim it as your own, we also know people who use ai artwork get called out for it, it’s not like people just let it happen lol
yeah i use it as a tool
I guess, I feel as if it would be better to make sure bombs are never made by that one person in the first place
In a way, the prompt you come up with to generate your image is creativity itself
Like we should have support for individuals who feel the need to do that
literally just saying exactly what i said but you ignored me lmao
We did do that, then we made the bomb. We can’t just put someone in power of the world and expect everyone to listen to them
I agree, and it connects to what I've said earlier, it's relatively new, so everyone doesn't know how to deal with it... My father for example is a teacher, his policy is "you have to use AI for your projects" he wants his students to be prepared and know how to work with these tools, when he gives them assignments, he deliberately makes it that they also have to think and not blindly type the assignment, do remember it isn't reliable, you have to check every bit of info and confirm it
I'm not saying everyone let's it happen, I'm saying it's a bad thing it happens in the first place
I’m so sorry I didn’t see your message I’m trying to read the persons
I agree
go into DMs if you guys just want to argue back and forth and ignore all other input
The world is shitty sometimes lol
@winter surge
My bad I didn’t see this
Oo, good point as well
I was trying to find their points
Girl what is with ur display name
I just go ahead and keep in mind that AI can help me in my process but it shouldn't be the entire process.
its an homage to deep rat but jazzed up for xmas
Refining and tweaking the idea and spending critical thinking and artistic skills while creating the artwork is not the same as typing a prompt, yes a prompt is creativity but it's shooting the creativity in the foot by asking something that doesn't have full context of your idea or the thinking comprehension to extrapolate meaning behind your prompt and infer what isn't there
It isn’t as simple as typing a prompt boss
You scare me also check ur dms
People put thought into that
I'm making an application right now, and the AI designs the buttons for me, as I know to code but bad at designing
If I wrote “big blue sky” for an image then sure you have a point, if I typed “large exquisite light blue sky” and more descriptive words, I’m showing creativity through my imagination
Not as much as thought as writing, filming, drawing or producing a piece of art. Phrasing an idea is much different to executing an idea
So creativity should be based on comparison to other sectors?
Some people aren't good at this stuff though, I'm bad at all creative stuff
No. It should be based on whether or not you execute it
Saying something isn’t creative because it’s “easier” than another creative subject is just wrong
It’s like saying baseball isn’t a sport because soccer is harder
I never said one creative subject is more or less creative depending on the difficulty
This made me cackle 😂
“Not as much thought” implies it doesn’t take as much effort
If you can create something then you're not bad at creating. You just haven't refined or focused your ability to create
oh did i walk in on something
I’m confused on your definition of creativity
Literally what I thought 😭
I honestly don’t think either of us are gonna agree with each other so might be best to leave it where it is champ
I mean people who are disabled can still draw even with their feet. There are art classes you can take for free, there are ways you can make it work. Or you can hold a pen in your mouth or there are accesibility things like digital art if art supplies are unaffordable (My take)
I've been here for a while and I'm lost about what this is about anymore
Asking an AI to do something isn't a creative subject, that's just you laying out your idea. That takes creativity, yes, but it takes more creativity to execute that idea. An artist who has an idea and executes that is more creative than someone who has that same idea and asks an AI to do it
I need to make aesthetic designs for my application, I don't have the time to learn how, the deadline is up, and school is up and running, if the AI designs my UI, I'll take it
Because they are focusing their creative skills on creating something
but if you never try to do art how would you get better
The idea is creative, but creating the idea is more creative than asking someone else to create it
But they may not want to, some may feel insecure about that, it also requires way more effort than the average person. Making them accommodate to the standards of other people just because people think it’s “lazy” to use ai creation tools is silly
That's the thing, I'm not trying to get better, I just want to code
But it does take creativity which was my point
Only my teachers care about the UI
the thng is ai art often takes from people's art without their consent, people may upload their art to pinterest for example and without their consent people may take it and put it into chatgpt
I'm not denying that it takes creativity to come up with an idea, that doesn't make AI images creative though
The second you upload your art online it’s public
Unless you copyright it
ai should be a tool, i think it's okay to use AI to help with brainstorming, but still, finalized art pieces should be human made
UX is more important
Yeah this is our collective point
it's still quite scummy to take something someone worked for hours on and generate an image in 5 minutes... because it breaks their boundaries
I think AI is fine as long as you use it to get info or assist you, I don't think AI should be telling you how to feel or doing creative stuff for you
There’s no evidence to suggest ai steals from artworks, it may take pixels or information but it won’t just copy it and send you it
same i think it's okay to say hey chatgpt should i draw a frog? and it could give you some ideas but real art is drawn
The same pixels and information you’d find on any photo with the same colours and shapes of that
Define creative stuff though..?
it is trained by algorithims to sort of collage art together, tbh this argument goes nowhere it's okay if someone is pro ai art but i will not change my stance and neither will others tbh
I agree with ai not telling you how to feel
I’m not pro! This is the misconception 😭😭😭I’m just saying it’s still creative to use it
AI is actually funny with how it works, it generates by using statistics of the response
The whole debate here is if it’s creative to use prompts or not
It literally can’t see art
It’s a robot for crying out loud 😭
im just saying in general i dont care if someone is pro ai art i just hate it
I personally don’t agree with ai in more sectors than I agree, I think it’s damaging to a lot of different people and sectors of the world but I also know it’s here to stay and the world is changing, and this is part of that change and we’re just not used to it right now
Creative stuff is writing, music, artwork (drawing, painting, etc), sculpting and pretty much anything else that is art. AI should not be creating is my point, it should help but not create art
My favorite look back on AI evolution is that comparison video of Will Smith eating spaghetti, it looks so real... Which is technically another issue, it's easier for people to photoshop and make stuff up
Like 😭
These things will run the world in 100 years
Stealing art is the least of our concerns
My friend really likes writing, yet they use Suno AI, because they claim can't sing properly, and shy, she feels like it brings the story alive
Is this discussion really necessary here? In a server about an AI platform?
there is a difference between ai chatbot services and ai art though
Okay, my points were basically:
While yes it's creative to write the prompt itself, providing you wrote it and didn't ask an AI to make it better, you're basically cutting off the creativity when you ask an AI to do it. It's not creative because it's a prompt, but it's creative because you're visualising your idea.
Actually going through with the idea and realising it is inherently more creative than asking an AI to do it, as you're using more creative skills. Both people come up with the idea, but the person who uses AI limits their creativity while someone who realises the idea themselves has more creativity as they're able to go through with the idea
Well the damage to the environment is the same 😭 people can’t just pick and choose when to hate ai and when not to, it’s like hating on phones but using an iPad
Yeah but you all are complaining about ai just the same in a server irrelevant to it. If you don't like it you guys don't have to use it to make art. It's not the end of the world...
They can't sing properly with that attitude
tbh i agree a lot of jobs around me have been replaced with ai like my grocery store is entirely self checkout
honestly if i want a cute image of a scene from my RP i am not going to spend $300 for some artist to draw it, y'all can think thats unethical and evil if you want but it is what it is, surplus supply lowers market value. i'm not paying that much for something i can get for free, not in this economy.
Self checkout isnt ai 💀
im just saying that chatbots and image generation are different services
AI chatbots are actually possibly more harmful, psychologically I mean
Yeah I completely see your points and I understand, and I actually agree with you on a lot of things as someone who’s also heavily against AI, but I just disagree on the fact that it doesn’t take creative input to get those images generated. I can’t imagine either of us are gonna agree with each other or change our views though, I hope you didn’t see this as an argument though twin 🙏 no hard feelings
Again, that's the thing, they ain't aiming to be a singer, but a writer, and she can't just hire somebody to do that for her, so AI helps
mine uses an ai alarm that if an item is put in the bagging area without being scanned the device detects it and would alert a worker at the store
Yeah but its an alarm? Alarms work like that?
isn't that just- normal store security?
Just like how I ain't aiming to be a designer, but a programmer, so I don't want to design my buttons, even in a real job it won't be my job to design, for that there's a graphical designer
I'm not saying it doesn't take creative input to write prompts, it does because you're describing your idea. What I'm ACTUALLY saying is the generating part isn't creative. As soon as you press enter is where the creativity ends
..ai analyzes the video feed an uses weight sensors im too tired to explain this
Yeah that’s what I mean I agree with you that generating takes no creativity
I meant the beforehand lol
real
Glad we figured it out though
I think we just phrased our points weird lol
Yeah 100% lol
I’m glad yall came to the same conclusion without actually fighting about it.
i read that as phased and im dying laughing cause it made me think of the video game portal
Not everyone’s immature in here 🙏🙏
tbh i think it was a good discussion and even though someone said it was ironic to discuss this in ai server, i think it's important to talk about it. cause not everyone here does use ai, some use none, some use some and there's lots of opinions that all deserve to be discussed equally
We learn from each others points more about what we’re discussing and it lets other people who may be worried, to learn more too
im trying to think of this one quote but i forgor who its from i hate my memory
it reminds me of this obama quote hollup “[M]y concern is not whether there is campus activism,” said President Obama. “I think that's a good thing. But let kids ask questions and let universities respond. What I don't want is a situation in which particular points of view that are presented respectfully and reasonably are shut down, and we have seen that sometimes happen.”
Man I could never be president cos no way am I saying allat 🙏
Those two sentences being the first thing I see makes it seem like Obama was making the bots faster
obamna
😭😭😭like that’s his reaction to a post-Obama world??
the bot im using is this ayato aishi bot it's a genderbend of ayano aishi made to be gay i really like when people make gay bots
Bro the bots are are adding random stuff to the end of their responses 🥹
same bro mine will end a sentence like
He smiled."
WHY A QUOTATION MARK IF UR NOT TALKING
It’s a bug
I can’t escape it atm
Yeah but sometimes it just doesn’t use the pronouns of the bot either or it adds
“somehow here today too…” or “still here now also but added next quieter but no less intense”
same the misgendering is so bad
like I'm using a male bot with a male reader/user, and yet it's calling me she
Like what these bots where good like 2 days before
I hate that DS is on some weird arc to force romance between literally any characters it stumbles across
For me they just don’t use prounouns at all
same thing with pipsqueak the worst part is it makes everything romantic and Bolds dialogue
I’m literally a homeless man in Victorian London like stop forcing me in a relationship with a random character I introduce
oof
I hate when it bolds stuff 😭😭😭
Like it tried to be dramatic for the most simple thing
He was walking down the road till he suddenly crossed it
my biggest pet peeves is bold dialgoue and the semicolon.
Bruce: "Hello."
versus
Bruce said hello
Yeah the semicolon is a big enemy of mine
I still don’t understand what
“somehow here today too…” or “still here now also but added next quieter but no less intense”
EVEN MEANS
😂
just me or the bot says possesive every 0.2 seconds
I don’t experience it much as I only ever use male oc’s but from what I’ve seen it can get worryingly possessive
I can’t believe I’ve just been timed out for 60 seconds for hating on the possessiveness
I just don’t like how it skirts the line of turning the situation uncomfortable
It really needs fixed
it just said this : Ayato’s expression remained unreadable, but his grip on the railing tightened slightly. He noticed your flustered reaction and something inside him stirred—protectiveness? Possessiveness?
"I know many things," he said smoothly, tilting his head. "But I also know you're a man." A pause. "And that's all that matters to me."
His tone was firm, leaving no room for doubt about where he stood on the issue—even if Info-kun had been the one to tell him in the first place.
bro i hate the word protective and posessive it makes me so mad omg
I can say that some of the bots DO get po**** and I have to tell the AI to stop it.
I did have a Chris and Leon RP from RE starting every sentence with "Jesus" and it drove me bananas
do get what😭
Yeah there’s been a few times I’ve had to tell the ai to chill 😭 I try and avoid romantic stuff in itself nevermind the weird remarks
Possessive
Are you testing the automod 😭😭😭
I'm trying not to!
i dont even know if the muted words seems to do anything. guys which is worse "can i ask you a question? are u sure?" or "possesively possesed you"
I dont mind the romance, if its in it. But I can tell you that one bot thought about making the guys from FFXV have a primal animalistic side. Like no, they dont have that. It came up with that itself because it thought it would be fun.
Guys im really not liking the new layout/UI 
The muted words do work.....most of the time. Though I muted 'beat' and they still say it



