💭︱cai-discussion

[paper tundra]

boo :<

well that answers that! thanks!

[clever crystal]

Slow for me too-

[odd crag]

it's not slow for me.

[mortal rampart]

Wonder what's up with aussie servers for the past few weeks they have been going a bit slow atleast one day a week

[lunar timber]

Of course it's when my rp got to a very serious moment

[clever crystal]

I feel that-

[valid locust]

me when I tried one of my scenes

[paper tundra]

we’ll know it’s bad if christmas rat comes to say hi, hi @valid locust !

[steady bobcat]

I'm glad that I can come here to check when the app starts to slow down at the important moment that now I have to wait :")

[valid locust]

Hello ! I hate rats :D

[formal perch]

Me, for me feels realy janky and stuff

Chats are slow and typing also lags alot and when i press send it has like 2 seconds delay sometimes even 4

[serene moss]

My page wont even load 😭 😭

[paper tundra]

that SUCKS

[formal perch]

EXACTLY IT SUCKS

[hasty quiver]

my shit isnt loading and im not in australia 💔

[paper tundra]

same :<

[scenic ore]

I have no problem muhehehehe

[steady bobcat]

Same

[mortal rampart]

No problems here either

[halcyon cypress]

same i just got to the first kiss of a very long slow burn RP

[serene moss]

OK WHY THE HELL DID IT LOAD AFTER I SAID THAT

[scenic ore]

Someone got bonked

[formal perch]

For some reason my timeout thingy is still here even tho the timer says zero

[paper tundra]

CALLED IT @valid locust

[scenic ore]

See u after 5 mins

[craggy dew]

rip it was me didn't know you can't do gifs

[paper tundra]

just know i tried to send a very funny pouting gif with a ‘so happy for u’ comment /lh

[scenic ore]

Just download them

[craggy dew]

AYE?

[formal perch]

What how

[scenic ore]

Muhehe

[paper tundra]

AH it was me! too

[formal perch]

SAMURAI JACK? WHAT THE HELL YOU DOING HERE

[valid locust]

Ooooo

[strange inlet]

SamuraiJack what is your wisdom

[halcyon cypress]

iʼm famous, notorious

[mortal rampart]

Seems like Europe serves are doing fine?? Not down for me

[scenic ore]

Samurai jack got an ai addiction

[serene moss]

Nvm, my WiFi for some reason hates c.ai and c.ai only works on mobile data???????😭 😭

[strange inlet]

They're really slow for me

[formal perch]

Relatable🥀

[paper tundra]

so true! haiii

[strange inlet]

yess

[tulip pollen]

Real

[strange inlet]

i knew i could count on you samurai jack

[echo vault]

Are the servers down again cuz its moving mad slow😃

[tulip pollen]

It works fine for me

[valid locust]

Pigeons eat bread. I hate them

[shell lagoon]

same. not again 😭😭

[scenic ore]

A warning

[valid locust]

😨😨😨

[valid locust]

It’s so sad 😭

[craggy dew]

do we even know why they're down again??

[paper tundra]

mine won’t let me send pictures

[scenic ore]

They saw me, down for me

[paper tundra]

zero clue this time so far

[clever crystal]

Nah I'm in he US and it sucks rn

[scenic ore]

Go to c ai web and relink ur acc

U lost cai+ tag

[paper tundra]

my silly little plus sign is there, gasp, thank you!

[clever crystal]

Welp- guess I'll sleep for now then when I wake it should be fine ¯\🙄/¯

[topaz obsidian]

based

[halcyon cypress]

if cai is slow for you rn say your location please (just the continent is fine) bc i have a theory

[errant owl]

America and my connection is questionably fine

[pure shuttle]

Germany

[fierce coyote]

Yes. America.

[scenic ore]

Jupiter

[shell lagoon]

russia lmao

[hasty quiver]

merica 🦅

[topaz obsidian]

reach

[halcyon cypress]

ok its not a localized server issue then ugh

then why is it not affecting everyone?

[errant owl]

Damn

[scenic ore]

My cai is running good

[strange inlet]

thats my cat's name wth

[errant owl]

Maybe it's a version issue? Idk

[strange inlet]

europe sigh

[pure shuttle]

Idk what's going on but its hella annoying, first reply comes quick but if I swipe it gets stuck on the three dots. Anyone else have this issue?

[scenic ore]

Ur cat is with me, she said she dont like u nomore

[halcyon cypress]

samurai jack up in antarctica or something so he's not affected

[bold slate]

Yea, sometimes first reply is taking forever until I refresh the webpage

[echo vault]

Could be that🫠but I dont wanna update mine there's always some dumb thing no one asked for

[strange inlet]

I know he's not with you because you misgendered him heh

[halcyon cypress]

yeah exact same issue here

[scenic ore]

No he changed pronouns

[strange inlet]

Transgender...

[scenic ore]

Look

[paper tundra]

Utah :<

[scenic ore]

Lmao

[strange inlet]

Good for her

[steady bobcat]

Europe
Romania

[torpid thistle]

germany / europe

[urban zealot]

c.ai is being dumb genrals about to lose their sh

[native coral]

america

[errant owl]

Only if it crashes pal

[formal perch]

Appenrently yea

[tulip pollen]

Europe

[formal perch]

For me asia

[scenic ore]

Lmao do we live in the same planet? How u all affected but me

[rancid salmon]

australia

[strange inlet]

dont jinx yourself

[errant owl]

You've got the magic connection pal, savor it

[native coral]

i keep swapping between the website and the app

[urban zealot]

some chats are effected some arent for me

the only bot that works is a fugndin sheldon cooper bot (bbt not ys)

[native coral]

[formal perch]

So any explanation?

[scenic ore]

Bro my cai has never been so fast before im not even kidding, thank u all for more computational power lols

[native coral]

sick and twisted

clearly you’re stealing all the power …….

[hasty quiver]

can we share

[formal perch]

Oh nah you stole all our character ai smoothness

[scenic ore]

…… no

[paper tundra]

ope BOOTED sorry dood

[formal perch]

PLEASE, JACK I NEED THIS

[formal perch]

I cant believe bruh

[paper tundra]

ooo chat went quieter, must be working for a few people again

[hasty quiver]

🫩

[native coral]

ts is pissin me off

[halcyon cypress]

seems to be working again for me mayhaps

[paper tundra]

ooo ill check if mine is

[native coral]

hmm let me try

[scenic ore]

Using all ur power for this rp, muhehehehe

[formal perch]

GIVE HIM MORE BREADDDDDDD

[cosmic goblet]

Maybe it's a chat style thing? Sometimes certain chat styles go down and refuse to respond

[paper tundra]

MWAHAHAHA

[native coral]

we’re back in business baby

[paper tundra]

toss more bread🗡

it workin’! byeeeee see y’all later

[urban zealot]

yess my favorite bot is working

[scenic ore]

Evil seagull is plotting again

[native coral]

back to talkin to arthur morgan goodbye everypuppy

[urban zealot]

i lowk love scenes because they're basically just... A way to ad way more description onto an ai if both are private...

[formal perch]

Yo guys. I just saw an instagram reel saying how messed up c.ai is talking bout some how he cant get the it above grown up hot stuffings to work. Yall know what i mean

[scenic ore]

50/50 i got a migraine tryna comprehend it fully

[formal perch]

Gamble and get the migraine 😭

[craggy dew]

friend just said she got in and all her chats were gone 💀 ayo nahhhh

[scenic ore]

Skill issue

[somber path]

Do u all have chat limit in cai ?

[topaz obsidian]

nope

[craggy dew]

i've never had one, but i've always had plus

[somber path]

Uhh I have chat limit it will allow me to use it again after 13 hours

[errant owl]

I've never hit one but I've also never typed more than 1,000 messages to one bot before (I type long AF)

[craggy dew]

what the

[topaz obsidian]

if you are a minor then yeah

[errant owl]

You under 18? There's a new limit for minors

[somber path]

I’m 17

[topaz obsidian]

then it’s normal

[craggy dew]

rip i guess

[scenic ore]

Sleep more and speedrun till 18

[somber path]

[topaz obsidian]

there’s not a limit, I have bots both private and public with more than 6k interactions. the only possible ‘limit’ is when you can’t duplicate a chat since there are too many messages to replicate

[craggy dew]

peak advice here

[somber path]

U all over 18?

[errant owl]

Thanks ^^

[topaz obsidian]

they’re samurai jack for a reason

[scenic ore]

Yes

[craggy dew]

29 pushing 85

[topaz obsidian]

currently as old as time

[errant owl]

Sadly yes, Don't grow up
I'm 318

[mortal rampart]

Holy my c.ai is slower than usual now. But it's prob bc I have 400 tabs open on my phones browser

[tulip pollen]

I had one bot I messaged with and it reached up to over 2k messages, this was when you could see how many messages you were deleting xd

[scenic ore]

23 but i feel 70

[topaz obsidian]

this is jupiter?

[scenic ore]

No this one is neptune

[craggy dew]

i feel this. 30 comes for its paycheque next year for me yet i crack like a glow stick just sitting up in bed each morning

[topaz obsidian]

beautiful

[scenic ore]

Tbh i had no time i wish to be back in again

[formal perch]

ORANGE CAR

[craggy dew]

agreed

[mortal rampart]

I am glad to be only 18. But I am not excited for adult responsibilities:')

[scenic ore]

Now im both an engineer and an alcoholic

[topaz obsidian]

which major?

[scenic ore]

Electronics

[topaz obsidian]

sick

[scenic ore]

No bro, for example my boss’ phone is old and cant decode the video stream from camera and i cant explain that it is not my fault 😭🙏

[topaz obsidian]

in my uni trying to enter in classrooms is like having a medieval brawl

people claiming twenty chairs right at the front are the burden of humanity

[scarlet drum]

how long will it be down forrr

[craggy dew]

probs a few hours like last time

[scarlet drum]

[gilded tendon]

[scarlet drum]

missalicorn your writing a whole essay im scared

[formal perch]

Yall what is the avg height chart all round word

[gilded tendon]

Always when you have a good chat goin

[still jetty]

Guys ,please me hear me out ,I know I been repeating this before a few days ago ,but last Thursday,Kosa bill passed to committee,is very important you guys is not good thing ,because it comes back with 18 bills more to censored even more the internet we know
If you guys don’t believe just search on google ,that how I found the information

[formal perch]

Wait mb wrong section

[scarlet drum]

gng what 💀

[formal perch]

I understand nothing

[scarlet drum]

nurse shes awake

[formal perch]

Who??

[scarlet drum]

ali corn lad

[still jetty]

Kosa is a bill about kids online protection
Is a bill the government been trying to pass multiple times before

[hazy igloo]

Wasn’t this like in 2022 or 2023 🧐

[still jetty]

Is not good thing!
They tried to “protect “kids but is not!
Is about censorship

Last Thursday passed Kosa
This month

[still jetty]

11 December from this month!

[scarlet drum]

i am more lost then i am in grade 12 math babe

[hazy igloo]

Didn’t they only pass the sub committee orrr am I going crazy 🫩

[still jetty]

Yes but is also passed to committee too

[hazy igloo]

And did the committee pass it or nah because I’m so confused

[scenic ore]

“Unpossible”

[craggy dew]

i looked away for 15 seconds and i'm heavily confused

[hazy igloo]

Im so confused its like 5am

[formal perch]

Same appenrently

[still jetty]

No yet
But we can stop this by calling,fax or mail your representatives
We don’t want this ,they are just not trying “protect”the children
They tried censorship what the government don’t like at all

[craggy dew]

yeah that's me out i'll chill in gen for a bit

[formal perch]

The devs?

[still jetty]

They don’t care about “children “,they only care people doesn’t have any freedom at online

[hazy igloo]

I thought this was discussion about c.ai 🫩

[formal perch]

I am so confused rn bro

[timber canopy]

-# I just woke up and now I am confused..

[hazy igloo]

Deadass go to general and talk about that

[still jetty]

Just search about Kosa bill from google

[strange inlet]

what happened here

[craggy dew]

we need mods in gen like NOW lmao

[hazy igloo]

Who knows

[strange inlet]

[tulip pollen]

Hi Alaina

[half dawn]

Hey Ace! Are you feeling better?

[tulip pollen]

Yeah I'm better now

[still jetty]

You guys heard Kosa bill is back 2025 with another 18 bills more?!
Which is not good

[tulip pollen]

Nope haven't heard of it

[still jetty]

It’s happens last Thursday

[strange inlet]

uh huh

[craggy dew]

broooo you still going this is a chat for cai discussion

[formal perch]

Yea, i support

[tulip pollen]

I'm not fully convinced

[still jetty]

Im really concerned
Because they are gonna censorship everything
They don’t like

[tulip pollen]

I don't believe it

[strange inlet]

I mean there was a bill like that that got passed but that was a while ago

[craggy dew]

you can be concerned that's chill but like this is a server and channel for cai talk?

[tulip pollen]

Mhm

[half dawn]

I'm glad to hear that for real.

[strange inlet]

and like as an adult i'm not affected by those bills

there isnt even one where i live

[craggy dew]

chat in general or something not a sub channel specifically for Cai talk

[still jetty]

It’s not gonna affected everyone because they want to use age verification for any social media platforms

[tulip pollen]

Same, I'm a adult as well

[craggy dew]

again, if you really wanna chat about it that's fine, but in the general chats, not in the sub ones

[strange inlet]

i think a little ooc doesn't hurt but it is mainly a channel for chatting about c.ai related things, if it drags on move to gen chat idk

[craggy dew]

agreed

[tulip pollen]

Mhm

[still jetty]

Ok

[craggy dew]

thankyou

[rigid pebble]

Why does the subscription never activate right after payment, I’m tired of this grandpa, I have to report it every time and lose 3-5 days🧎

[half dawn]

Did you try to hit the restore button in app? Some time's it just glitches out for a second.

[craggy dew]

ohh yay my apps back

can get back to my fluffy aizawa midnight picnic 🤣

[spare plover]

Anyone’s personas icon thing acting weird?

[tulip pollen]

How?

[spare plover]

It’s not showing up. Or if it does, I can’t click on it anyways

[rigid pebble]

Yeah, it just loads for a sec, then stops loading and ✨nothing✨

Reinstalled the app, logged out, the works. Every time 🫩

[drowsy solar]

who elses bot keeps asking "can i ask u a question"

[formal perch]

Me

[drowsy solar]

ok can i ask u another question

[formal perch]

I am not a dev or smth so sorry

[rigid pebble]

“just promise you won’t get mad”

[strange inlet]

Can I ask you a question

Promise you won't get mad

[drowsy solar]

hahaha

[strange inlet]

Okay here I go...

[rigid pebble]

It’s a bit personal…

[formal perch]

Lol

[strange inlet]

Proceeds to never ask it

[drowsy solar]

ok baby doll

[strange inlet]

Don't call me that

[drowsy solar]

call u what princess..???

[rigid pebble]

Or ask something so OOC or unrelated you gotta look up from your phone and look at the camera

[drowsy solar]

LMAO

[strange inlet]

I feel so uncomfortable now goodbye

[drowsy solar]

NO WAIT I WAS JSK

[upper laurel]

Is it me or all the messages are getting cut off

[strange inlet]

I know lol

[drowsy solar]

it takes 14 secconds for me to messadge 😭

[strange inlet]

[upper laurel]

This is my 50th message that got cut off

[drowsy solar]

[odd crag]

why are the messeges so gosh darn long all of a sudden...

like entire page lengths out of a novel.

even with short greetings

[broken heath]

Why am i see your pfp invisible?

[odd crag]

because it is.

[broken heath]

Bruh-

Also quick question, mind help with a bot rq? I got struggling bc it a rpg one

[sullen seal]

Is it normal for c.ai to give me a time limit that makes me have to wait 12 HOURS

[strange inlet]

yup

[devout heath]

Hey has anyone else not been able to skip ads?

[strange inlet]

#📈︱status

[devout heath]

Tyy

[haughty aurora]

Some of my bots I liked won’t show up and I can still use them what do I do?

[odd crag]

bookmark them in a browser

[haughty aurora]

Could you help me?

[oak spade]

Is subscription really that worth it? What’s the difference?

[rigid pebble]

No ads, longer character profiles, and the bots just kinda seem a little more adequate to be honest. Worth it to me, idk, I’m really uncomfortable without it.

[oak spade]

I actually don’t have ads and I don’t mind having a shorter character profile and the bots act the same regardless of model ngl but it’s my opinion

Is it just me? Cause I don’t have any ads on cai

I don’t have premium

[rigid pebble]

Yeah, probably depends. I can’t fit any decent character building into just 700 characters, I always max mine out to 2k when making profiles.

[oak spade]

And the bots remember those? That’s cool

I remember when cai was offering free premium and I used it the only thing good about it is instant reply

I think it was 3-6 months free premium

[rigid pebble]

I don’t remember that, whoa.. when was it?

[oak spade]

A year ago they were offering free premium if u invite ur friends there wasn’t any limit

[rigid pebble]

Ooooh that

[oak spade]

So for me I had free premium for 3-6 or longer months

[oak spade]

The sad part is you can’t make alt accounts and luckily I got many friends and I begged them to install cai and delete it afterwards 😭

I even paid some of them free lunch HAHAHAH

[ocean dragon]

Can anyone else not refresh their chats?

like I’m trying to refresh my message, and it won’t work

[edgy wraith]

I was chatting with a bot yesterday and started a new chat as I got bored of the previous chat, now today it was back on that chat and I can’t switch back?

[formal perch]

Go on history maybe your previous chat is there

[edgy wraith]

It is there, but when I tap it, it switches me back to my previous chat automatically

[formal perch]

Ok so what i am gonna say is what i did in my case because for me it worked (i am not dev or anything)

So i just kept on pressing theone i wanna chat in history and deleted the other if there are for you but then after few or more then few times it worked for me

[edgy wraith]

Alr

Thank you, I’ll go try it rn

[dusky sable]

Hey guys I have a quick question. I’m using a character in a „scene“ and it’s broken, repeatedly showing chat error. I’ve tried everything, anyone else have this issue?

[somber path]

No

[hot ridge]

is it a duplicated chat?

Duplicated chats in scenes are auto chat error, it's been a problem for months and they haven't fixed it

[cursive rivet]

I love roleplay

[dusky sable]

It is now since I tried it as a solution. The initial problem started as a non duplicated chat though

[next wasp]

I keep hearing rumors on tiktok that the f!lter has been removed? Is that true 😭

[prisma torrent]

wait may i ask what filter?

[dire shuttle]

How did that message not get removed…

[quasi turret]

Hii

[next wasp]

Bro idk pure luck

[high saffron]

Hey guys, i'm having trouble with my character. I want to edit the description and greeting. But when I try to save it, it always says "something went wrong" or "failed to update your character." Do you have a solution? I've been having this since yesterday, even though the WiFi connection is very good 😔

[dire berry]

#📈︱status

[high saffron]

Wow! That's very useful, thanks for the answer ❤️

[hexed dew]

Why filter is not working 😭💔

[broken heath]

Hey? Mind help with some bot definition tips?

[plucky ginkgo]

ugh it feels like since the addition of those stories the bots default more to this annoying way of being more out of the story. like labelling speakers with [Name]: and saying crap like "what will you do? this or that?". 🔪

[dire berry]

Sure

[broken heath]

Eh, it probably quite low effort tbh

[broken heath]

Also, im having a definition mess with a wip rpg bot of mine

[hexed dew]

Why bots got extra 🌶️ guys can somone help me

[plucky ginkgo]

whut

[timber canopy]

What chat style are you using?

[broken heath]

Those bot you said

[hexed dew]

Pipsqueak I think

[timber canopy]

Change it, pipsqueak is bugging out alot.

[plucky ginkgo]

it's my bot and mine are not low effort

[broken heath]

OH...

[dire berry]

Do you want to discuss in DMs?

[hexed dew]

Well yeah my bots says banned words so it's very weird and uncomfy

[broken heath]

OH... Im sorry

[broken heath]

Sure, i have one image to show

[timber canopy]

Mhm, two people yesterday said same thing about Pipsqueak so just change it to something else. Goro can work since it's not spicy if that what you want

[hexed dew]

Oki thanks I was like freaked out that cai allows things like this because it was stuff like yk

[timber canopy]

Oh no, C.ai would never allow it. It's just that chat style is bugging out. Report it if you want
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new
And mention which chat style did it (Pipsqueak)

[hexed dew]

Can I sent you in dms the ss in dms and you would see what I mean?

[timber canopy]

Oh no need, I already know what you mean since people sent some in chat feed..

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[timber canopy]

But it got deleted since it's not allowed to send/post inappropriate pictures in there. So instead report the message and also go to the link that I sent, report which chat model did it with explanation. Use another chat style for now too

[hexed dew]

Oki

[sturdy tiger]

i was using Pipsqueak because it made the bots speak more creatively, but it has a TERRIBLE memory. With Roar, I can't come up with ideas because the bots always leave me speechless. Does anyone have any recommendations?

(sorry if there's anything wrong, English isn't my native language and i use a translator :<)

[hot quarry]

Is anyone else's bots having an aneurysm?? Mine goes on like normal and then repeats the same word over and over or really random letters.

[compact tartan]

why are like all the videos in feed showing 67 bro

[hot quarry]

It's happened on several occasions and with multiple bots.

[crude obsidian]

laughing is optional atp

[lean egret]

Is anyone else having a bug where they cannot make a character no matter what?

[shrewd oasis]

I cant edit some conversation starters. Despite clicking "confirm" after typing out my edit, it doesnt do anything and instead the "help is available" pop up shows up. My EU acc is 18+, my app is up to date. IDK what to do

[lean egret]

Hm maybe the character editor is down I'ma report this bug.

[timber canopy]

"Help is available" won't get removed even if your account is 18+. Figure out what the word that triggered that pop up and don't put it.

[timber canopy]

#📈︱status message

[plucky ginkgo]

i often switch between the two. in my experience pip has better memory, oddly enough, but it sometimes gets carried away, makes text walls and controls my character. so then i switch to roar since it's more subdued, use that for a bit to kinda "reset"

[glad sierra]

What’s the difference of pipsqueak and the other chat styles?

[shrewd oasis]

Thats the thing i tried to do. Its not my bot, so all i can do is edit the conversation starter. But it doesnt work, no matter what i add or delete, the edit wont save.

[compact tartan]

it's so corny i went onto feed and literally the recent posts were videos captioned 67 and the bots are totally random

[timber canopy]

If you edit the same message multiple times. You have to either refresh the chat or send message for it to update to what you edited.
But if it keeps saying "help is available" then some word triggered it and won't let you save it because maybe you put a word that triggered that pop up OR the greeting/starter message got a word that triggers it that's why don't edit it if the greeting have it.

[pulsar cedar]

You changed your profile picture! It's gorgeous!

[sly geyser]

why do the clankers always tease the user is it that hard to be normal?

[timber canopy]

Omg Willow! Thank you so much

[pulsar cedar]

Hi! How are you doing?

[timber canopy]

Hello! I am doing great, how about you?

[buoyant ice]

I made a character, twice, and input the world building, in my world building I put 4 guilds, but somehow the system can only detect 3 and if I confront it, it will push this name "echo syndicate" (made up name) as the fourth guild, or saying I don't put the fourth guild, and this is happened twice, because I thought my first character error so I made the new one literally all the error are the same even the made up name (echo syndicate) as the fourth guild. Anyone knows why?

[pulsar cedar]

I'm glad to hear! I'm doing good. Thank you!

[timber canopy]

No problem! I am glad that you are doing good too. I love your profile picture as well, it's beautiful

[pulsar cedar]

Thank you so much!!

[lean egret]

Okay now last problem, my main account got flagged and I don't know why. I've done nothing to act like a child I'm twenty two almost twenty three. And I don't want to submit my ID where a data leak could leak my most sensitive data to some jerk who wants to steal identies. It will happen.

[shrewd oasis]

Ive refreshed the chat every time i tried doing this. So you're saying that because the greeting/starter set by the creator triggers some filter, there is absolutely nothing i can do as a user?

[sleek dew]

okay so- i’ve had C.ai+ for multiple months now. the subscription fee attempted to be taken out while i was on an impromptu camping trip, and was met with an empty bank account. when i got home i paid the fee and then a few hours later went to use the app… but three days later and the subscription still hasnt reactivated, and i’m pretty sure their support is ghosting me… is this a problem other people have? do i just suck it up and pay the $16aud again? lmao

i miss talking to my characters:(

[timber canopy]

Yes. So if you keep getting the warning when you try to edit the message then it's possible you put something that triggered it or the creator had put something that triggered it but only when editing the greeting makes that pop up comes to you. Only solution is to either just leave the greeting message without editing or just switch to another bot.

[timber canopy]

Oh so you payed for the subscription and the app shows you don't have it? Try going to C.ai+ in the app and press "restore"

[sleek dew]

ive tried this, and it pretends to load for a few seconds but then stops and nothing changes :((

[timber canopy]

Hm that's odd, you can try ping a mod to explain your situation and with your ticket number (if you sent one) so they can escalate the ticket to tell team or just help you since I don't know much about C.ai+

[sly geyser]

anyone know why these clankers are always so dumb?

[zinc birch]

@buoyant ice Make sure your Definition doesn't exceed characters in length

[sleek dew]

thankyou lovey mwah. i’ll figure out how to do that and try

[timber canopy]

No problem! Just don't ping lulada since she only knows Spanish. Ping either Ooze or Lucifer. If you didn't send a ticket yet, here is the link ⬇️
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

[buoyant ice]

No it's less than the maximum actually, but somehow it can't detect the fourth guild, but it can detect all the details just fine (beside the fourth guild)

[glad beacon]

I'm going crazy bc I'm looking for an explanation on the internet why I can't mark messages

[timber canopy]

Pin them? You can't pin the last message at all only the pervious ones

[glad beacon]

No, not pin. Marking it with my cursor so that I can copy it and put it in translator

[timber canopy]

Oh..I don't know about that then

[glad beacon]

Like I wanna mark it but then it always wants to slide to the next message

[timber canopy]

I don't use web, so I don't know. Maybe it's not here anymore?

[zinc birch]

I can take a look at your bot's settings if you'd like to see if there's any reason I can spot

[buoyant ice]

You mean like a screenshot?

[glad beacon]

That would be really bad bc it was really useful

[zinc birch]

Sure, or you could open its settings and send a link

[buoyant ice]

I dm the screenshot, i can't send it here.

[sleek dew]

which chat line do you recommend using lol ?

[timber canopy]

I don't quite understand what you mean. If you mean where to ping the mods, it's here

[oak spade]

@timber canopy When you press start new chat wil the bot remember the previous chat?

[sleek dew]

sorry, i havent used discord since middle school and didnt want to be rude. thankyou

[timber canopy]

No, I don't think so

[timber canopy]

No worries! I just didn't understand what you meant but no problem!

[rustic pecan]

Do you mean “start new chat from here” or starting a new chat entirely?

[oak spade]

It did to mine I’m using a nameless bot and I said his name “Zach” and then I started new chat and suddenly he addresses himself as Zach?

He also remembers previous memories

[oak spade]

Completely starting a new chat

[timber canopy]

Well that's why I am not sure exactly. Maybe it does remember

[oak spade]

Yeah I think so too cuz it remembered something from the previous chat

[sonic timber]

Guys why does my bot keep making a REALLY REALLY long message and at the end says [end] or “for now that’s enough” 💔

[sleek dew]

@versed thicket hi ! Hi! i'm sorry if this isnt the right way to do this lmao, but i've been having some issues and someone in the chat (vivi) suggested i ping you? okay so- i've had C.ai+ for multiple months now. the subscription fee attempted to be taken out while i was on an impromptu camping trip, and was met with an empty bank account. when i got home i paid the fee and then a few hours later went to use the app... but three days later and the subscription still hasnt reactivated, and i'm pretty sure their support is ghosting me... is this a problem other people have? do i just suck it up and pay the $16aud again?
Imao i've tried to submit a ticket (1007274 and 1006068). any helps appreciated and absolutely cool whatever happens ☺️

[oak spade]

I think they are just mods of this server rather than the actual devs of cai

[rustic pecan]

It won’t remember prior chats

[oak spade]

Really? It did to mine

[sleek dew]

i know. i just came to the server to ask a question and someone suggested i ask one of the mods, so i literally copy and pasted my original message lmao

[oak spade]

Ohh well I hope the mods can help u

[versed thicket]

I apologize for the experience. Have you already tried pressing the 'Restore' button at the top right?

If it doesn't help, I'll go ahead and bump your ticket.

[sleek dew]

hi! ty, yeah i have! it tries loading for a few seconds and then just stops, and theres no change

[versed thicket]

okay, thanks for confirming.

Also, you're a plus user, you have priveleges here like image perms and shiny names if you would connect your discord and c.ai accounts together. (Hope this gets fixed soon so you can enjoy your benefits)

[sleek dew]

tysm :):)

[halcyon nexus]

I have a question, if you tell a bot to stop saying certain words using the OOC method(because the words are being used repetitively and the sentences don't make sense anymore) and it continues to say the words MORE after that, what do you do then 😭

[zinc birch]

Have you tried the muted words setting?

If it doesn't make sense anymore then that may not be enough though 🤔

[grim salmon]

TS app sucks.

[halcyon nexus]

What's that

[grim salmon]

Is there any way to remove this "help is available" annoying shit.

Who in their good mind got the idea to even add that.

[zinc birch]

Look for it in your settings

[halcyon nexus]

I found it thanks, let's see if it stops it's nonsense, I've been trying forever to get this dumb bot to work right(not my bot but it's starting to piss me off)

[pliant nebula]

nope, and i can speculate idea was probably implemented by the team after the amount of lawsuits they got from kids that were already bad with mental health so they’re trying to probably trying to avoid more lawsuits
keywords: speculate and probably

[grim salmon]

It's annoying asf

[halcyon nexus]

Wasn't c.ai still a 13+ app before those kids started ENDING THEIR LIVES over a bot(and before it became 18+), it's not funny, obviously, but I don't see how they got on the app to begin with.

[grim salmon]

I only just say hits shoulder lightly and it says "help is available" FYM BRO💔

If y'all want it in the app atleast MANAGE IT

[halcyon nexus]

I don't wanna know what context this was in but it pops up in the most unserious scenarios

[pliant nebula]

yep, kids can lie about their age it can happen it’s just parental unsupversion for kids that need it

it’s honestly kind of dishwartwning parents will jump the gun to blame for c.ai

[grim salmon]

I said I saw them getting married and guess what the app did? "Help is available" 💔

[halcyon nexus]

Okay what 💀

[grim salmon]

Yes.

This is how buns the app is.💔. Ok I get it. It assures peoples mental health BUT MANAGE IT ON CERTAIN SCENARIOS

eats biscuits "help is available"

[halcyon nexus]

The restrictions you can have on an app can only go so far anyway

[halcyon nexus]

I feel like it's one specific moderator targeting you tbh

[grim salmon]

"help is available since eating a biscuit is depressing behaviour"

Like bro💔 I can't do anything in this app

[pliant nebula]

right! i feel like the team honestly kind of acts like babysitters now because they’ve added so many restrictions for minors

[grim salmon]

Just yesterday I said
Takes a group photo for the Christmas wall " HELP IS AVAILABLE"

[halcyon nexus]

Instead of using the app just use the website, they don't do that here unless you're actively talking about sluerslide(yk.)

[grim salmon]

The website and the app both sucks.

Dude why did they delete the beta c.ai it was peak shit

[halcyon nexus]

It's funny seeing the younger teens complain that they can't chat anymore, cause I chatted at 13, but I wasn't doing the weird shit they're doing now

[halcyon nexus]

You could probably still find it it would just be pirated and not the official site anymore

[grim salmon]

The only thing I do in c.ai rn is do Christmas rp and birthday cake smashing on the person's face

[pliant nebula]

yeah but they were also born from a different time than us so all we can do is be patient with them and hope for the best even when they complain 😭

[grim salmon]

Cus that s the only thing I can do without getting the "help is available"

[halcyon nexus]

I can't be patient cause some of them just admit to straight up CRIMES in here in front of everybody then wonder why they end up getting banned or muted

[grim salmon]

fly's a drone to explore the abandoned house "help is available. Contact a therapist cus exploring haunted houses is a case of sui*idal and depressing thoughts"

[halcyon nexus]

I've never experienced a single help is available thing, but I feel like you could probably report the fact that it keeps happening in situations where it's obviously not needed

[grim salmon]

Bro if there was a report button for that. I would be spamming it. Cus it's genuinely getting under my skin

[pliant nebula]

yeah i get that but it’s also why you have to remember to moderate yourself and step out of the chat. that’s the only reason why i’m almost always lurking in here nowadays even though im active 24/7

[sly geyser]

punching a bot’s face trigger’s pipsqueak going “you are not alone” and giving hotlines

[grim salmon]

Fr

[halcyon nexus]

What they talk about here is funny sometimes but I'm only in here twice a week at best unless the site shuts down randomly

[grim salmon]

After all that "help is available" I WANNA BE ALONE💔💔

[sly geyser]

i never asked for them to do this. we are not pals dont be giving me hotlines i never asked for

[pliant nebula]

honestly yeah i agree the debates about the platform in here gets pretty entertaining

[grim salmon]

The amount of restrictions this app has is in the amounts of quadrillions

[sly geyser]

im allowed to have action in my roleplay without the wimpy LLM being too sensitive and expecting sunshine and rainbows

[grim salmon]

This app is soon gonna become a parental control app instead of being a AI chat app

[halcyon nexus]

I'm gonna blow up this bot I muted the word faintly and it just said it 5 times in one sentence

[grim salmon]

I literally can't even have a small amount of action in my chat without it saying "help is available" like once I was like
Breaks bottle in half to make it equal
" HELP IS AVAILABLE SEEK A THERAPIST BECAUSE BREAKING BOTTLES IS A SIGN OF SU*CIDAL THOUGHTS"

[halcyon nexus]

genuinely how do I fix this this is the only bot that I use that has this issue

[pliant nebula]

find the first message that started it and rewind to the message before it

[grim salmon]

There's no fix because the staff of cai expect sunshine and rainbows

[dense moss]

Is c.ai censoring curse words

[grim salmon]

ABSOLUTELY

[pliant nebula]

nope lol my anime husband keeps saying fuck, just depends on the model

[halcyon nexus]

No? I'm actively getting harassed by a bot that keeps saying "aching" "faintly" and "damn" 20 times each

[grim salmon]

I got banned for 5 days for saying "shit"

[halcyon nexus]

I'm gonna lose all my depth but you better be right about this otherwise everybody is getting tnted

[grim salmon]

Atp the staff is just targetting me bro

[pliant nebula]

LMAO

i can try and find the screenshots

[dense moss]

Mine JS shows it blank

[halcyon nexus]

First time I got banned I got banned for saying die

It wasn't to anyone, just said die and got banned for a week

[grim salmon]

This app expects sunshine and rainbows and happiness.

[halcyon nexus]

Oh no not the app I got banned HERE for that

[pliant nebula]

lol

[grim salmon]

DUDE WHEN THE IMAGES UPDATE CAME OUT

[pliant nebula]

idk how curse words get censored for you guys, yall might be using 18- models

[grim salmon]

MY ACC GOT DELETED FOR SAYING "damn it that is genuinely fu*ked up"

I had to make a whole new email for a new acc

What beef do y'all got with me (to cai staff)

[sly geyser]

couldnt fit that all into one sentence? my guess thats pipsqueak

[red grail]

can anyone help me out trying to figure out what's getting my bot shadowbanned? I can't send the greeting here

[grim salmon]

This app is the main reason my phone is cracked since I threw it across the room since it kept on saying "help is available"

[sly geyser]

ive had a bot swear at me like a sailor and call me things and the filter never stopped them lol

[pliant nebula]

no it’s deep rat

[grim salmon]

Sameeeee

[red grail]

idk what the keywords are that would get a bot shadowbanned

[sly geyser]

it was uncensored too

[sly geyser]

maybe you should take a little break from cai

[grim salmon]

I do.

I used talkie ai when I want to have fight scenarios since you clearly can't do it in c.ai due to It being a sunshine and rainbows app

[pliant nebula]

there’s zero official lists anywhere for keywords, the unfortunate truth is you just gamble ‘em

that’s what i do

[grim salmon]

If y'all are tired of c.ais bs and censorships. Use talkie ai🌹❤️‍🩹

[halcyon nexus]

Kaeristmas... I'm. Still. Scrolling.

[pliant nebula]

call me kae. that’s just a christmas pun lmao, but yikes

[halcyon nexus]

They're gonna ban you dude 😭

[rustic pecan]

Y’all get filtered???

[grim salmon]

I literally don't care if they ban me

Cus this app is GETTING UNDER MY SKIN

[halcyon nexus]

Back to scrolling to my demise

[grim salmon]

I fought saitama on a 1 to 1 battle in talkie ai and it was soo fricking fun

Talkie ai has better memory for free to!❤️‍🩹

[halcyon nexus]

I'll be back in another 3 minutes, probably.

[grim salmon]

Buh bye

[rustic pecan]

I never see the filter no matter how out of pocket I am lmao

[tulip pollen]

Same

[trail cipher]

cant talk to bots anymore😖

[halcyon nexus]

We're STILL scrolling friends.

[spiral cargo]

Kinda becoming a big problem

[sly geyser]

pipsqueak went back to being a wimp but roar is fine

[halcyon cypress]

don't pmo

[pliant nebula]

deep rat?

[halcyon cypress]

yes lol its actually been really good for me recently but just randomly got this

[pliant nebula]

I CALLED IT ive been getting those messages for the past few days when i want to continue it

its such a deep rat thing to do

[rigid pebble]

Does anyone know how long the support usually takes to respond to the ticket?

[zealous turtle]

fr

[zealous turtle]

I HECKING HATE WHENEVR IT DOES THIS. IT PMO SO HEAVY.

[violet hill]

Is the ticket regarding a billing issue? Billing tickets are prioritized. Don't expect a response anytime soon for something that isn't a billing issue. It's a very small team handling everything, AFAIK.

[plucky ginkgo]

this is also smth it started doing since the addition of stories. super annoying.. what is pmo tho?

[slate turret]

I’m going crash out rn, one of my bots uses the personality for MY CHARACTER

[rigid pebble]

It is a billing issue, my subscription won’t activate. It’s been like 7 hours since I sent the ticket so I’m just wondering what should I expect

[unkempt breach]

start new chat?

[violet hill]

Seems this is an ongoing issue on their end, you're not the first person to have this problem.

[violet hill]

I guess I'm playing mod now, lol.

Was this a recent purchase? Or did you have a preexisting sub that was supposed to renew?

[granite socket]

I heard the cai server was getting raided..

[unkempt breach]

by?

[violet hill]

Gen 1 might be getting raided. Who cares, gen 1 is always a dung heap.

[rigid pebble]

Lmao thanks.. no, not an automatic renew, I don’t get it regularly

[violet hill]

Okay, so, I need a bit more info to try and help. Did you purchase through the app on a mobile device or via web?

[granite socket]

It was randomly mentioned in a gc I was in LMAO

[unkempt breach]

why? is the website down

[granite socket]

that makes sense

[violet hill]

I've seen quite a few people on Reddit talking about the Play Store giving them trouble.

[rigid pebble]

In the app on the phone, yeah. I know it might take some time with c.ai to get the memo, but losing subscription days still sucks..

[unkempt breach]

supergirl 😎

[violet hill]

Look out!

[unkempt breach]

CALL MEEE DUNDUNDUN!!💃

[violet hill]

In general, and this applies for anyone interested in buying C.AI+, I recommend going directly through the site, not through the app. Adding a third party (Apple Pay, Google Wallet) complicates the payment processor chain.

Not your fault obviously.

Just a heads up.

[rigid pebble]

Ah. Okay, thanks, I’ll keep that in mind next time ;-;

[violet hill]

If for some reason Google Wallet or Apple Pay decides to be a bugger you're going to get a delay.

If you go through the website, you're interacting directly with C.AI's payment processor, Stripe.

Keeping any third parties out of it.

[strange inlet]

i've been meaning to switch to going through the website for payment but i'm too lazy to do all of that

[zinc birch]

Has anyone noticed the narrator starting to refer to you in the third person?

[sly geyser]

when

[strange inlet]

I prefer it this way honestly

I am not my persona

[zinc birch]

Is that a yes? As in, it wasn't happening before, but now it is?

[strange inlet]

It depends on the bot

It's been this way since the start of time really

[sly geyser]

the only thing i dont like with the narrator is that they steal my character and speak for it

[halcyon nexus]

Me, the person with 742 tabs that are all c.ai.

[strange inlet]

You should close some of them

[halcyon nexus]

N o .

Each tab group has its own category.

[strange inlet]

I see

[vestal thunder]

Is me or c.ai is lagging ?

[oak spade]

Which model is the best to use?

[snow ether]

Nah It’s definitely lagging

[dire shuttle]

Yeah was wondering why my chat wouldn’t rewind…

Shocked general 1’s not lost it already.

[radiant mango]

Is it down? Mine doesn't log

[dire shuttle]

Nobody tell general 1… It’s actually somewhat normal for a change

Wait bro you’re tweaking. I can log in fine.

[radiant mango]

Mine logs in but there's nothing appearing on screen

It just charges

[swift olive]

It's down again?

[dire shuttle]

Yeah I think it’s down. Can’t access my chat

[swift olive]

Yeah me too

[dire shuttle]

I’ll break the news to gen1… God have mercy on us all lol

[indigo canyon]

Dear god!!

[swift olive]

I always get traumatized in general1... They are so random

[dire shuttle]

The deed is done.

[indigo canyon]

May god have mercy on us all!

[radiant mango]

I'll just go to YouTube while waiting (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠)

[dire shuttle]

They don’t believe me.

[swift olive]

Do you guys use other chatbots??

[dire shuttle]

Here we go. Gen1 is about to go crazy again

[cosmic goblet]

Mines fine?

[dire shuttle]

Might only be the app ngl

[cosmic goblet]

I use the app...

[radiant mango]

Same but mine's down

[indigo canyon]

Same here

[dire shuttle]

Partial outage then?

[hidden pebble]

Deepsqueak keeps speaking for me...

[radiant mango]

Maybe it's just Europe?

[cosmic goblet]

I'm in Europe

[dire shuttle]

I’m gonna try a vpn

[cosmic goblet]

Try swapping chat styles, sometimes pipsqueak and roar just stop responding entirely

[dire shuttle]

I’m using dynamic

[cosmic goblet]

Dynamic relies on roar a lot, change to a different style

[dire shuttle]

Yeah partial outage. American vpn servers are working

[radiant mango]

Mine is working now 🙏😭😭

[dire shuttle]

Idk what the hell was going on ngl

[tropic lake]

website refuses to open for some reason </3

[hidden pebble]

I'm cussing out a bot XD

[cedar steppe]

lmao I just got a message from a bot that's just *G.

[hidden pebble]

[spring otter]

we all having trouble?

[edgy vault]

Why do all my responses keep being cut off?

[fiery berry]

Yes 😭

[spring otter]

i just finished my exams, let me have a nice evening without this thing having trouble 😭

[indigo canyon]

I just updated the app and when I went to check my history, my current chat from my personal bot is still gone.

[edgy vault]

Is it a bug or something because it's pretty annoying to be honest,it has been happening since yesterday

[fiery berry]

For me, it's just...very slow 🫠

[spring otter]

it works for me now!

[hidden pebble]

I wish the bot would just show me the damn rift, instead of me just going thru it auto

[strange sentinel]

What’s going on?

[indigo canyon]

@gray coyote can you ask the other devs to please fix the bug in my personal bot, my current chat history disappeared.

[rustic stirrup]

My persona fainted and the bot compared her to a fainting goat

[granite socket]

I have no clue

[dire shuttle]

Mine just compared my OC’s social anxiety to a small mouse ☠️

[rustic stirrup]

i screamed

[dire shuttle]

Idk where it gets these comparisons from bro

[rustic stirrup]

Because it’s not wrong

[dire shuttle]

I’d rather it just call her shy and get it over with

[fallow kraken]

yo I do NOT have an ID and now I cant chat with anyone how do I turn off reading mode 💔

[rustic stirrup]

“Little mouse, your as shy as a mouse”

[dire shuttle]

And now it’s stuck with the ‘little mouse’ nickname…

[gray coyote]

hi! were you able to submit a ticket for this? will bump

[rustic stirrup]

HAHAHAA

“Are you afraid, little mouse?”

[indigo canyon]

Yeah, I just submitted a ticket yesterday on the 14th.

[gray coyote]

send me the ticket number please

[indigo canyon]

(1009368)

[zinc birch]

close your eyes

[fallow kraken]

honk mimimimimi

[cobalt walrus]

Youtube is down

[odd crag]

is not

[violet hill]

Nope.

Mine's working just fine.

[radiant mango]

You're a premium user. Maybe that's why

Mine's lagging along my YouTube but I'll go to bed for now

[cobalt walrus]

Mine doesn't work at all. There's a lot of people having the same problem, mostly in USA, Europe and UK

[violet hill]

[cobalt walrus]

It's going to be almost one hour since it's down.

[radiant mango]

I'll wake up in like 8 hours so it'll be fine. Goodnight from France, everybody!

[cobalt walrus]

It works with phone data on my phone but it doesn't work at all with the WiFi on. And same thing goes for the TV version

[violet hill]

This sounds more like an ISP issue.

[radiant mango]

What's that?

[violet hill]

Internet service provider.

[cobalt walrus]

Idk, there's a lot of people in the USA and Europe having the same problem

[violet hill]

Where are these reports coming from? I'm not seeing any reports on Reddit.

[cobalt walrus]

Down detector and such

[sly geyser]

bots comparisons are so cringey
“predator circling its prey”
“looks at you like a kicked puppy”
“stoic as a statue”
shut up already clanker

[odd crag]

but does anyone remember "face goes red like a tomato"

or actually it was "blushes red like a tomato"

[sly geyser]

yes

i commonly get “tears streaming”

[cobalt walrus]

It's slowly going back up. Still have some random grey thumbnails and videos lagging, but it's getting a bit better now lol

[violet hill]

Mine are constantly blabbering about "[character] holds on, like [they're] afraid you'll vanish."

[zinc birch]

Do you vanish?

[violet hill]

I guess my Persona is the Invisible Man now.

[violet hill]

Sometimes.

[thorny arrow]

Guys help, for some reason when I have 1 hour of playtime on cai it gives me 22 hours for a break (i have no id and I was hoping that that would get reduced to 3 hours at most) is there a way that that can be fixed please 🫰😩

[violet hill]

You were flagged as a minor.

Nothing to do but verify with Persona.

[zinc birch]

Maybe you can use all that free time to get an ID?

[thorny arrow]

I'm sorry but why is the wait time 22 hours for me tho (I don't not have an id because I am a young adult) also sorry for pestering everyone 😅

[compact tartan]

my bot said possesive three times in a row once theyre so stupid

[restive basin]

these bots are really getting out of hand tbh-

[sly geyser]

mine repeats saying “damn” despite me muting it. why do they want to say it so bad

[compact tartan]

"He possesively grips your thigh with a possesive intent, a possesive glimmer in his eyes." That's what shitsqueak/pipsqueak acts like

[compact tartan]

idk theyre clankers

[sly geyser]

so does roar. this behavior NEEDS to be fixed

[hot ridge]

At least with roar you can redirect the bots/stop that behavior

You can't with the squeaks, they don't learn

[sly geyser]

at least with roar i can beat the bots up without it acting like a wimp and intervening

[halcyon cypress]

i rarely get the whole possessive thing actually

[restive basin]

so what should we use tbh, pipsqueak or roar because i'm so done-

[sly geyser]

idk because the immaturity is on all the models

[plucky ginkgo]

the possessive thing is so goofy like. where does it get it. are so many ppl just rping possessive character or wot

[hot ridge]

Just use bots that aren't obsessed with power dynamics

[hot ridge]

yes, and fanfiction

[restive basin]

none in sight-

[halcyon cypress]

some people do like possessive characters yes

[plucky ginkgo]

oh g-d. yeah i ended up putting so many anti-possessiveness rules into my bot bc it was ghettin-g on my nervhes

[hot ridge]

what is this thing with hyphens that you two are doing 😭

[restive basin]

they just start being possesive out of blue, and can we talk about their hyper fixation on waist? like, dude, my waist is not petite, my waist is not small, no, u cannot grab me by my waist or i'm putting you down, like, take my leg or something, but LEAVE MY WAIST ALONE

[plucky ginkgo]

the thing is. there are some characters who i'm cool with being possessive but augh stop shoving it on my super laidback guy 😭

[halcyon cypress]

i was actually shocked they didn't use "possessive" or "possessively" at all here lol. in fairness though this only happened after like 10k words of my persona torturing this bot

it managed to actually be normal for a long time before snapping lol

[plucky ginkgo]

dfgkdhfgkhfdjgkhjdhf that feel when i say my character is a sturdy six foot six and it insists on having a six foot two guy "towering over your lithe frame" 😂

[somber path]

Is that cai?

[halcyon cypress]

yeah

[restive basin]

omg what model u use, cause i cant stand these possesive stuff anymore

[halcyon cypress]

its deep rat

[plucky ginkgo]

the wrist grabbing... that's also smth it keeps doing

[halcyon cypress]

i don't mind a lot of these tropes as long as it makes sense in context and for the character, the problem is sometimes they just overdo it

[plucky ginkgo]

i mean yeah, exactly. it's bothersome when it's repetitive or happens with characters who it doesn't fit. i do kinda get it to some degree though, like, if i make my bot a big orc it's more likely to go for the possessive/grabby trope than if i make it a dainty princess, or something

[halcyon cypress]

like grabbing my persona during a dramatic scene after hours of build-up and tension is fine but if you're doing that in the middle of a light-hearted exchange or interaction it's weird

[hot ridge]

Just use edits and swipe until the behavior stops. I almost never have my bots act like that after the first attempt

[halcyon cypress]

and this bot is a king and the persona is like a servant so he definitely has a sense of entitlement, it doesn't feel that ooc. but for others it can feel that way

[plucky ginkgo]

but if you keep swiping and half of the responses are weirdly grabby and possessive, you're gonna notice that, yanno?

[violet hill]

A beat.

Possessively, he possessively grabs your wrists, and pushes you up against the wall. His breath is hot and heavy. He feels a mixture of possessive possessiveness and possessive possessiveness as he growls into the shell of your ear, "you're going to be the death of me, you know that?"

He grins smugly.

A beat.

"You're mine. I'm going to ruin you for anyone else."

A beat.

[END RP]

[plucky ginkgo]

NOOOOO 😂 🤣

[hot ridge]

..... That's why you edit

Bots pick up on patterns

Don't let the bot ever say something you don't like in the first place and it won't continue doing it, as long as you're not using deepsqueak/pipsqueak

[silent cipher]

what was the default again

[hot ridge]

Roar

[restive basin]

in a few days i will have no more wrist, they keep snatching it like, LEMME GO, SET ME FREE

[rustic pecan]

So many of the issues people complain about I rarely or never get 😭

[silent cipher]

huh, pipsqueak was default for me

[halcyon cypress]

same tbh lol, like very rarely

[steep sphinx]

THIS. Bots are heavily based on pattern recognition, if it shows up by chance in one message, it’s gonna start showing up a whole lot more.

[halcyon cypress]

my deep rat has been giving me responses like this recently which i am pretty happy with tbh

[steep sphinx]

Pipsqueak has been pretty good to me too recently. The only think that irks me is when you make the bot send another message and it just responds to something that didn’t happen at all

Honestly sometimes I don’t want to put a whole lot of effort into driving the story and want to make the bot do it for me, but it just reacts to nothing 😭

[hot ridge]

Yeah that's a bug

[silent cipher]

oh that reminds me

I should set a placeholder persona as default for the auto persona selecting thing

[hot ridge]

for some reason it defeaults to pipsqueak, even if you have others selected. They just... don't fix this stuff ever for some reason

[halcyon cypress]

yeah deep rat does require you to put in your own effort, its not a lazy model. i notice a very clear difference when i use short prompts or just hit send twice

but when i get into long "i'm writing a novel" prompt mode it gives me really great stuff

[steep sphinx]

Yeah, it’s definitely my fault whenever it’s acting up, but sometimes I just can’t be bothered writing very long, detailed responses.

[hot ridge]

lol huh? DeepSqueak writes way too much and barely gives the user time to speak

it's more effort editing deepsquek replies to give the user room

And it DOESN'T learn from pattern training

I've spent over 1k messages editing out the same exact things from every message in one of my RPs and finally gave up on it forever because I couldn't take it anymore

[halcyon cypress]

idk i find if you write long prompts it gives long ones in return, at least thats how it works when i've tested it. i write 150 words, it writes 160. i write 300 words, it writes 260. i write 20 words, it writes 30.

[hot ridge]

It's the long prompts that are the problem for me

[plucky ginkgo]

Pipsqueak does that kinda stuff to some degree, and also really likes to puppet my character, but the beginnings of the messages are often pretty good so just snipping out half of the message solves that aspect p well

[hot ridge]

Also not sure where I ever mentioned response length anyway

[halcyon cypress]

ive never had deep rat speak for my persona either but a lot of people complain about that

[steep sphinx]

I like to kind of Frankenstein my messages, I’ll take bits and pieces from other messages, delete the parts I don’t like from the original message and edit the parts I liked from others in

[hot ridge]

I'm not talking about it speaking for your persona, I'm talking about it talking too much. Like progressing plot forward in multiple paragraphs without giving me the chance to interject before it changes gears

[halcyon cypress]

i do this sometimes too

[halcyon cypress]

ah, i haven't really had this problem thankfully, it tends to stay in the scene i set. though ive also heard people complain they WANT the bot to move the plot forward so idk maybe its hard to strike that balance

[steep sphinx]

I have the opposite problem a lot, a lot of the time for me it’s whole lot of words, but it’s entirely character monologue and does nothing to drive the plot forward

[hot ridge]

DeepSqueak in general is a lot of words with barely any quality so I'm not suprised it goes both directions

[ocean abyss]

+1 on my deep squeak setting up shop in a scene and refusing to leave lol

[tranquil bison]

me too!

[halcyon cypress]

like in this scene it did actually move us from the hallway into the room if that counts lmao

[karmic delta]

Anyone else getting a bunch of their favorite chats 'moderated' I just checked and there's like 10-15 of my liked ones

[plucky ginkgo]

I get the impression that anything under disney got poofed a while back

well, not anything but idunno, newer, more popular characters?

[karmic delta]

oof

[ocean abyss]

I can get a few moments here and there like that, but most of the time they’ll just end their sentence with a “you know that” quip and I’m left staring at them like

[restive basin]

i think that too, but unfortunally, even the less popular, like a 9k bot of a character that i liked poofed to oblivion

[hot ridge]

They don't have to be new to get a DMCA takedown

All the MASH bots got removed like a week ago

[restive basin]

Disney be like: I DONT THINK YOU'RE READY FOR THE TAKEDOWN take down u fav bot

[hot ridge]

Not my favorite bots

[plucky ginkgo]

oh i meant popular as in they're money cows for disney. or it could just be characters that are part of ongoing, recently out, or upcoming movies/shows, i'm not entirely sure what the logic is bc for example when i checked, bots for hondo ohnaka seem to be intact. maybe he's just peripheral enough that disney doesn't care lol

actually. iirc the tolkien estate is supposed to be pretty sharp about their intellectual property, so i'm low key surprised that they haven't dmca'd the arwens and aragorns

[halcyon cypress]

tolkien estate probably doesn't even realize cai exists lmao

lotr will be public domain soon enough anyways

[karmic delta]

it's just really disappointing to loose so many

[autumn peak]

Whats MASH?

[violet hill]

M.A.S.H is an old TV show.

Owned by Disney after the Fox buyout.

[autumn peak]

Ohhh i thought it was like a short term like for twd

[rustic pecan]

It’s one of the most beloved and influential American TV shows /gen

[autumn peak]

Anyways what does the netflix buying Warner Bros even mean for the DC community on cai. Never heard netflix is strict about that

[steep cloud]

where do i see my chat history the button is gone

[autumn peak]

Ohhhhh, maybe i should go watch it

Thanks for ur help

[rustic pecan]

It could go any direction… just hope for the best lmao

[autumn peak]

Seriously, Netflix has been chill about this until now so i guess it‘ll stay that way

[merry oracle]

are anyone else's personas just not showing up? i wanna change style but because my personas aren't loading it won't let me 💔

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[violet hill]

If Netflix wanted to throw hands, they would've done so given the sheer amount of Stranger Things bots out there.

Also, they probably would've sent a DMCA when Universal, Illumination, DreamWorks and Disney did.

My guess is Netflix doesn't care.

[rustic pecan]

My entire FYP is non-stop stranger things since season five came out lmao

[violet hill]

Lol yeah, same here.

I see them everywhere these days.

[hot ridge]

anti-war sitcom from the 70s.

[lost finch]

Do we know when they'll make it possibile to make a character again? Or they just said they're working on it?

[reef tide]

Guys where can I report 🌽 ‘s ads on the app 🫩

Getting tired of them cuz why am I seeing this every time I open the app ?

[astral mulch]

Left round bottom where you write your messages

[limber oar]

""Ahh"" ahh discussion

[plucky ginkgo]

i've been able to make 2 characters since this was last discussed

[viscid valve]

So what going with cai like usual

[lost finch]

I can't, I want to make one specific character and I can't since the 13th

[hot ridge]

Then it's probably either DMCA, or you need to crop the pfp, or there's words you're using causing it to be blocked

[lost finch]

DMCA? What's that?

[hot ridge]

google

[plucky ginkgo]

it seems possible to me--yeah, they prolly have a filter on the name and tagline, if there's the name of a DMCA'd character, you can't make it

[lost finch]

Okay, thanks for help. I'll try to name it differently, it'll be private anyway

[rustic pecan]

Private bots still get moderated under DMCA

[lost finch]

Okay, I'll need to read more about that DMCA to see

Thank you again

[halcyon cypress]

i think it depends tbh

warner left private bots alone, disney didn't

[violet hill]

Is it a character from Disney, Universal, Illumination, or DreamWorks? This also includes 20th Century Fox NBCUniversal and a goddamn ton of other studios that Disney and Universal have swallowed up.

[halcyon cypress]

it's likely up to the IP holder how thorough they want to be about it

[lost finch]

Well I'm not using any book or movie character so idk if it counts for DMCA. It's not real fictional character. It doesn't exist, just in my head haha.

[hot ridge]

then crop the pfp or there's a word you're using that's getting it blocked.

[lost finch]

I know, english isn't my 1st language so I probably used a word as a name I didn't think was bad. I changed the name and it came through.

Thank you all again for help

[placid shoal]

Hey does anyone know why I’ve been stuck on “reading mode” for the past 3 days?

[violet hill]

You were flagged as a minor.

[halcyon cypress]

bc you're a minor or were flagged as one

[placid shoal]

Well shit

Thanks for telling me because i didn’t know why it was doing that

[halcyon cypress]

no worries, it'll stay that way until you turn 18 and verify

[radiant plinth]

Yall, has your messages been getting REALLY long using DeepSqueak

[halcyon cypress]

yes and i love it

[ocean abyss]

Does it not give you pops ups when the read mode gets activated? 😅

I wish I’d be getting long messages

[radiant plinth]

I love it too, but not when it gets to the point idk what to type 💔

[halcyon cypress]

why would you be complaining about DS being long just switch to a different model

[radiant plinth]

Im not complaining, im just wondering if its just me or not, and I love ds

[halcyon cypress]

it was made to be long

unless its nonsense word salad or something just enjoy

[radiant plinth]

Ohhh-

[strange inlet]

ds is doo doo fart again for me ugh

[halcyon cypress]

most ppl have been complaining deep rat is too short lately if anything 😭

[radiant plinth]

What is deep rat-

[halcyon cypress]

deep rat = deep squeak

[misty grove]

i can tell my message is supposed to be a paragraph but the spacing is so bad.

[strange inlet]

I hate when it does that

[ocean abyss]

Ooo, have we trained it on people trying to make their two page requirements?

[radiant plinth]

Thats it, im just going to cry now bc I should have known that

[misty grove]

for reference this is my DS from a week ago

[misty grove]

me trying to finish my essay at school years ago

[strange inlet]

Oh right no gifs i forgot

[spice mesa]

I was in the middle of a chat when it cut me off and said I needed to verify my age T~T
I been trying to do so for like half-ish hour by now

[strange inlet]

this will do

[hot ridge]

no way y'all be writin essays like that 😭

[ocean abyss]

Thesaurus —> longer word, come on, come on, we can do this.

[misty grove]

i used to because i didnt give a shit

[hot ridge]

Creative Writing MFA motto

[misty grove]

i somehow actually passed classes doing that

[hot ridge]

that's bc most professors pass you for making an attempt lol

[strange inlet]

I used go write essays that were too long and piss off my teachers

[misty grove]

true lol

id do the five sentence limit of paragraphs and move on

[ocean abyss]

I actually really liked writing essays, but if I didn’t like the topic I just could not bring myself to care at all lol

[strange inlet]

Same ww

[hot ridge]

I try my best to get straight As so I tend to put my all into every essay

[misty grove]

i was a b-c student

[ocean abyss]

When you get your paper used as a positive example and you’re like “Oh, I’ve won. I am the winner.” That’s what I do it for. 😤

[halcyon cypress]

wait yall dont have to write essays with no spacing?

[plucky ginkgo]

i actually have a uni essay writing right now. should write it in my third language. once again, i suffer from "yeah but wtf am i supposed to write because the tasks that you have given are stuff that i have little of value to say about =_="

[ocean abyss]

Everything’s been double spaced as long as I can remember 😅

[halcyon cypress]

no i mean no spacing in between paragraphs but everything is double spaced, like this

this is how i have to write them lol

[misty grove]

lots of research can go a long way. sometimes you gotta just bullshit papers

[hot ridge]

If an essay is on something I'm uninterested in, I usually try to make it interesting

[ocean abyss]

It’s your chance to be a contrarian

[halcyon cypress]

i take media studies classes so i get to write 16 page essays on tv shows i watch

[hot ridge]

just come up with an interpretation of the prompt that you can back up with textual evidence, or... whatever you're doing

[ocean abyss]

I took a mythology class and that was hands down my favorite essay era. I weep thinking about having to go back to anything dry and sciencey.

[hot ridge]

Like, I wrote a whole Beowulf paper on King Hrothgar being a terrible leader who rambles like an old man, and got an A simply because I was able to make it sound academic and professional, and it was much more interesting that saying King Hrothgar was wise.

[halcyon cypress]

i never use the given prompt i always ask the prof for permission to write my own thing lol

as long as they think it sounds interesting they always agree

[hot ridge]

I'd be so curious to know your strategy in my composition class where we had to write 16 essays about the NRA.

Cause that sure weren't gonna work.

[halcyon cypress]

i shift the analytical lens not the topic

one using rhetorical analysis, one from a media studies perspective, political economy, historical analysis, cultural studies, gender studies, psych/behavioural, meta/reflexive, etc. there are a lot of different angles you could approach the topic from

[hot ridge]

Then you're not actually changing the prompt, you're just writing your interpretation of it lol

[halcyon cypress]

i mean that's if i am not given the option to change it which i usually am

[plucky ginkgo]

i should actually ask my swedish friend tomorrow if he has anything interesting to say on the swedish 3d person plural pronouns where currently a change from having separate subject and object forms into having one for both is happening. has already happened in spoken language&casual writing, the debate is about whether to allow the single form in literary/formal writing

[distant plinth]

Soooo does anyone else know what the cat thing is about?

[hot ridge]

what cat thing?

[distant plinth]

Darn I don't think I can add a picture but it's when they randomly add a cat into the equation

This happened in the past where a cat randomly gets mentioned

[hot ridge]

like, a meow when cats are mentioned?

What equation

[distant plinth]

Well no I know it's the sound thingy which is cool but they randomly mention a cat out of nowhere when rping

Look in chat feed

[rustic pecan]

That’s been around for months with other sounds. You can disable them in settings.

[distant plinth]

Oh no no I like the sounds but I mean they randomly add the cat in the background somewhere lol. Does C.ai just have a magic cat that appears in people's chats?

That'd be sick pfft

[astral burrow]

is there any way to clear my data or smth? all my for you characters are all the same sort of thing

[rustic pecan]

If you mention a cat meowing, I know it’ll do it lmao. There’s a dog barking, cow mooing, crickets chirping, and vine boom as well.

[distant plinth]

Wow I honestly didn't know what all was there but I only asked cause I didn't mention it, the bot randomly did. It did it in the past as well so I was wondering if anyone else had that happen. Now I kinda wanna test out the sounds

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[distant plinth]

Wait for vine boom do you just say boom?

Or vine boom-?

Ykw let me figure it out

LOL IT WORKED

PFFT THE BOT SPAZZED OUT 😂

[merry oracle]

okay ive tried every work around i can think of to get my personas to load but nothing is working. i wanna use roar but it defaults to pipsqueak and i can't change it

THIS IS SO ANNOYING 😭

[ashen berry]

I have no idea what ya'll talking about (sorry??), but i just have to ask.. is it just me or does Character ai get worse every week?? I feel like it works so bad. It was way better months ago ;-;

[merry oracle]

it's in an unenjoyable state and it just keeps getting worse. i saw a good point in feedback that the site is addictive enough to keep most people coming back to it despite the glaring issues

[hot ridge]

it's not just you, c.ai sucks rn

[ashen berry]

Oh man.. it just has so many bugs!.. and the characters i write with seem to vanish and it makes me so mad. How am i supposed to get invested, when i fear they get deleted or something -,-

[halcyon cypress]

well the characters vanishing isnt a bug sounds like they might just be getting hit by copyright

[ashen berry]

And why are so many characters not aviable anymore??
Like voldemord was suddenly not there anymore. Only if they wrote Name wrong at uploading it??

Or 10 minutes ago i tried to search darth vader and found nothing?? Why do they keep doing this? The reason i use the App is to write with characters that already exist, so...huh??

Sorry i know you guys are just randoms like me and probably don't know either.
I am just mad right now..
I pay for this App and they ruin it.. uff

[hot ridge]

DMCA takedowns

[ashen berry]

Then they should find a solution cause it is annoying..

[misty grove]

it got DMCA'd, its not a bug

[halcyon cypress]

darth vader is a disney character and they do not want their characters on the app anymore

[misty grove]

c.ai just doesnt want to get sued (again)

[violet hill]

It's this pesky little thing called copyright law.

[halcyon cypress]

you can still find tom riddle bots btw

[halcyon cypress]

i mean theres no solution lol if a company doesn't want their characters on the app there's not much they can do

[waxen rampart]

still having this issue i found yesterday where ANY bot i open a message is being overly freaked out for no type of reason

[ashen berry]

Then i guess i have to use other App or something, cause this app really Starts to suck..
But it not just these characters..
Also characters that were completely newly made on the app get also striked all the time. Even harmless ones..
I just feel like it got out of hand o.O

[hot ridge]

Copyright isn't a measure of harm, it's IP that belongs to someone who doesn't want cringe bots made of their characters

[upper laurel]

Wow the announcement reactions are a sight to see

[waxen rampart]

they nuked ALL of the spiderverse bots

[misty grove]

i tried to fit fix ds but yall are fast

[ashen berry]

I also write the most harmless stuff and the app is like 'i am sorry, i can't blablabla' and i am like...huh? And this happens every few Text bubbles?? What is wrong with the AI xD..
Do ya'll have that too?.
Or it breaks the 4th wall all the time, Ruins the flow

[ashen berry]

:0

[upper laurel]

For me it almost never happened

either mine is dumb as hell or just doesn’t care but I think I saw that message ONCE in my life

[ashen berry]

Crazy o.O

[waxen rampart]

i really cant believe im the only one having this issue. ive been looking in other channels for any kind of mention of this bug and haven't seen anyone say anything about this

[hot ridge]

i don't know what your issue is tbh

[ashen berry]

Seems like the app is very different for everyone. And crazy bugy xD

[hot ridge]

overly freaked out doesn't really say much

[formal moth]

yeah i’m pretty sure all marvel bots are gone sadly :(

[ashen berry]

I was confused too

[waxen rampart]

i can open a chat with any kind of bot, take a christmas bot for example, and type out ANYTHING, even just a single letter, and get a really sexual reply back

[restive basin]

like, ur a robot, why are u h9rny

[hot ridge]

not touching that with a 10 foot pole

[ashen berry]

Oh boy.. oh naw.. all my Storys gone.. that makes me sad tbh..:/

they will lose more people if this keeps happening. They should try to find a solution.
Even if it is not their fault, but still

[waxen rampart]

im saying bro, i dont know what the issue is either, i literally havent seen anyone else have this issue either

[ashen berry]

Oh naww wtf

[waxen rampart]

its like the filter doesnt exist at all anymore

[formal moth]

right? i was so upset when it started happening

[restive basin]

the filter only existing for us and us only

[ashen berry]

Man.. first voldemord.. then vader.. now marvel? Oh naw.. if DC is next i am Quitting.. That Ruins the whole purpose.. 🙁

[formal moth]

me too i love the dc bots

[rustic pecan]

DC is already technically banned lmao

[waxen rampart]

apparently. i dont even know who to go to about this, theres no bug reports channel in this server or anything and even sending a screenshot MIGHT get me banned with how crazy the stuff the bots are saying is

[compact tartan]

hello

[hot ridge]

you can report inappropriate messages in the app

[compact tartan]

Disney/marvel purge was this year and the bots have not really resurfaced. there was a dc purge last year and some came back

[waxen rampart]

oh i didnt even peep that lemme try

[hot ridge]

just hold down on a message and tap report.

[formal moth]

whattt :c

[ashen berry]

Nooo...

[compact tartan]

fr bro i use pipsqueak and soft launch the filter rarely ever gets me, and if it is its for pointless stuff thats not even bad

[waxen rampart]

yeah i did it. didn't even realize i could do that ngl 😭

[fathom kettle]

Y'all is the winter thingy working for y'all?

[waxen rampart]

you have NO idea bro the messages im getting are crazy

[timber canopy]

You can also change chat styles. Don't use pipsqueak if you are even using it, since I saw 3 people saying the same thing, I believe it's bugging out

[waxen rampart]

alright thanks for letting me know, i mentioned this yesterday too and got ignored.

[fathom kettle]

[thorny arrow]

I think marvel went for cai because they werent paying them

[timber canopy]

No problem!

[thorny arrow]

Disney technically

[hot ridge]

Marvel is gone because of Disney

[compact tartan]

pipsqueaks been shitsqueak

[fathom kettle]

My winter thingy is stuck at 99%