💭︱cai-discussion

[solemn oyster]

Wasn't there a cooking mama one too?

[compact tartan]

my dad was born in the early eighties

[timber canopy]

Game Freak, I am YEARNING for Unova remakes 🙏

[desert urchin]

I think so

[woven coral]

Yeah, that one was strange. Surprisingly not as bloody

[timber canopy]

That reminds me of that one can your pet game

[zinc birch]

Do you mean multiple?

[wanton path]

Yea

[zinc birch]

I would guess that... 🤔 I don't know! 🤷‍♂️

[woven coral]

Group chats are very bad at times, very bad memories

[compact tartan]

If we're talking about pokemon my personal favorite game is the Let's go pikachu and Let's go eevee cause they were the first games I played when I got my switch

[woven coral]

I like Ruby on the Gameboy

[frosty shore]

There's a bug. If you use "start from here" On a character that use a scene it won't respond.
Anyone else have this problem?

[timber canopy]

I have the let's go eevee switch hehe I like sword and shield cause it's based on the UK, but I like black and white cause emmet and ingo...if I HAD to pick a favourite game though then I'd pick Legends Arceus

[woven coral]

What's everyone's favorite pokemon? Mine is wooper

[compact tartan]

Nice ! I haven't bought many Pokémon games. I have Let's Go Eevee, Let's Go Pikachu, Pokémonn sheild, and Pokémon Arecus. I'm too poor to buy any new games right now but I've been wanting to

[timber canopy]

Mines Kadabra!

[woven coral]

Ooo! Very lovely choice

[compact tartan]

Mine is Jolteon I have a soft spot for the electric types ❤️

[timber canopy]

Arceus is hands down the most beautiful Pokémon game ever made

[compact tartan]

I know right, I loved how open the map was for exploring

[cobalt walrus]

My favorite Pokemon game right now is Pokemon Shield on the Switch, since it's the only Nintendo console that I own.

[heady parcel]

Shellos :] wooper is so cute too

[woven coral]

How cute! Jolteon looks very fluffy to me

[timber canopy]

The scenery was amazing and the character lore made me bawl my eyes out

-# Ingo...

[compact tartan]

Nice! The only consoles I have is an old nintendo switch and my current nintendo switch oled

[cobalt walrus]

Got rid off the DS where you could play augmented reality games on it because the battery always gave up after a few minutes of playing

[timber canopy]

Who's your favourite human characters though? I have so many...
Ingo, Oak, Rowan, Sycamore and Kamado

[compact tartan]

Oof rip

[cobalt walrus]

Eh, I don't miss it honestly. It started to give up after a while and I deleted everything on it before getting rid of this console.

[compact tartan]

Tbh I 'm basic the only ones I liked were Professor Oak and the elite four from let's go eevee/pikachu

[timber canopy]

Another Oak fan!

[halcyon cypress]

oh damn so it was like vintage by the time you got it 😭

[cobalt walrus]

I remember having a massive crush on Sycamore years ago for some reason

[timber canopy]

-# I still do 💔

[compact tartan]

Yeah my dad is a collector of nintendo games and bmx bikes from te 70s-80s

[timber canopy]

I'm so pissed that Sycamore is only in a photo in Legends ZA

[halcyon cypress]

i remember when i got my first n64 when it came out in 96 and it was so great, still one of my fave consoles

[compact tartan]

Yea the mario kart on n64 is nostalgic for me

[halcyon cypress]

that and the sega genesis probably

[sturdy quarry]

sorry to interrupt but my timer has run out, how long would i be able to use cai before another timer gets put on?

[halcyon cypress]

it depends but at most 2 hours, might be less

[timber canopy]

I think the timer is an hour now?

[compact tartan]

you're okay, uhhh I'm not sure it should be pretty low like 1 hour?

[halcyon cypress]

it starts at 2 but then gradually decreases every time

so yeah might be an hour this time

[woven coral]

A Carp is in my bathtub :(

[sturdy quarry]

okay so why. like is it going to continue decreasing? how does this whole under 18 thing work 💔

[compact tartan]

I reccomend you read up in #📣︱announcements or look at their age assurance articles :>

[sturdy quarry]

thanks!

[frank totem]

Is there a way that I can tell if I’m in the second group? There’s two and I’m just wondering if I’m in that one. I can do everything right now like in the app

[zinc birch]

🎏❓

[woven coral]

Yeah it happens sometimes

[zinc birch]

Is it dirty?

[woven coral]

A bit, I should have cleaned it yesterday

[zinc birch]

How long has it been in there?

[woven coral]

A couple days

My father just joked that we should eat it for dinner tonight, it's much too small though😭

[uneven lava]

does anyone know if theres a way to contact human support instead of getting the automated support emails?

[zinc birch]

I recommend asking your question here first, if possible, in case some random person can answer it. You can also ping or DM a mod.

[uneven lava]

no its like an actual problem with the site, it physically won't let me verify my age/ get to the persona page even after refreshing or logging out and logging back in

[rustic pecan]

This is a known problem. Open a ticket. The more tickets they get, the faster they get to problem solving.

[uneven lava]

I've tried opening tickets, but they keep telling me to either go to the page (which I'm at) or how to take a proper photo of my ID (which I can't, since again I can't even access the page)

[mental violet]

I hate chai

[frank totem]

I know I alr asked this but is there a way I can tell if I’m in the second group? Cause rn I’m in the 18+ vers

[rugged kindle]

So wait... We have 29 days of the two hour limit before we cut completely off

[left comet]

Hey, I wanted to try the new stories update, but it seems I cannot make more than one story, is that normal?

I use the website and don’t have the app if that matters

[full flame]

Hello,hello. I have a question,so do I still get time limits even if im 18+? Or is it just the underaged people?

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[frank totem]

Just underaged I believe

[orchid crag]

If you can still edit and use soft launch without verification then you gucci

It may flag you later on but ATM don't worry about t

[full flame]

Thank you for answering my question!

[frank totem]

Yea that’s why I was asking! I can still do allat. Just wondering if I’m in the second group

[frank totem]

Tysm!!

[wispy fossil]

Does anyone know if the edit button being gone is a bug? Because I still have soft launch and was able to edit messages before it was randomly removed.

[tiny hinge]

I’m sorry what

[timber canopy]

I've seen so many people saying this, ping a mod and ask

[grave fjord]

If you had it before it’s probably a bug

[rustic pecan]

It’s a bug.

[woven coral]

I assume this is not common in other countries?

[halcyon cypress]

i have a question for anyone who has used stories, can personas be one of the characters?

[wispy fossil]

Okay, thanks.

[tiny hinge]

Not really tho, where you from if I can ask?

[woven coral]

Russia, I'm on a VPN right now because discord is banned in Russia

[tiny hinge]

So in Russia it’s common to have a fish in your bath?

[woven coral]

Well not just Russia, it's common in other slavic countries

[left comet]

I don’t think so no

[timber canopy]

I'm from the UK and I've heard about other countries doing that

[tiny hinge]

Interesting, and why if I can ask again?

[woven coral]

Sometimes they just get in there, don't ask me how 🤷

Though it happens more often when I don't clean the bathtub

[waxen helm]

I think I’m screwed I’m over 18 but I look fourteen💔

[strange frigate]

Guys I GOT 4 MINUTES AND I HAVENT USED THE GODDAMN APP TF

[waxen helm]

Lucky for me it’s 18 hours

[strange frigate]

BRO I HAVENT GOTTEN A CHANCE TO USE IT

[waxen helm]

I feel this might backfire because I feel like around 80% of its users are under eighteen

[strange frigate]

First 24 hours then 18 and NOW 4 MINUTES TFFFFFFFRF

[quick kite]

Think you should be glad it’s only 4 minutes atp 💀

[strange frigate]

THEY ARE SPAWN CAMPING ME ISTG

[strange frigate]

Watch it turn into 24 hours again 😭

[timber canopy]

If you leave the tab open then it counts as time on the app

[quick kite]

Stop my 24 still ain’t up and I’m over 18 gng it flagged me 🫩

[quick kite]

That’s lame

[timber canopy]

It's actually only 30%

[waxen helm]

Suprisingly? Wow

[strange frigate]

Oh hell nah

[woven coral]

How are you guys getting flagged? It is very strange

[timber canopy]

Yup! It's 30% if you include those who lied about their age, but if you exclude them then it's 10%

[strange frigate]

IKKK I DONT GET ITTT I HAVE SOFT LAUNCH AND I HAVENT USED THE APP SINCE YESTARDAY 😭

[waxen helm]

that’s surprising to be honest

[quick kite]

Idk man I was fine then BOOM suddenly I got flagged 😭 sucks more that I can’t verify cuz the button isn’t working talking about sum ‘try again later’

[woven coral]

Do you have deepsqueak?

[waxen helm]

Do we know why they’re doing this?

[timber canopy]

New law over in California

[strange frigate]

Guys I jinxed it it's 2 hours now atleast not 24

[keen rock]

Its actually under 10%

[waxen helm]

Gang just verify your state of smth than

[quick kite]

Brooo 😭

[timber canopy]

10% excluding the ones who lied about their age

[waxen helm]

I feel like it’s always California tbh 💔

[timber canopy]

I'm not even in the states

[woven coral]

Parents don't want to parent and kids are getting hurt

[quick kite]

It’s gonna happen out of the states eventually what’s the point😭

[strange frigate]

im done im just gonna use another damn app

[keen rock]

Well i think someone and me did the math using some other statistics and its like 21%

But the CEO says sub 10%

[halcyon cypress]

guess i'll just make a bot of my OC then lol

[timber canopy]

It's 30% including those who lied...the CEO said it's 10% who self reported as minors

[keen rock]

So like take your pick, yall are still not the majority

[keen rock]

Where are you getting 30% from? /gen

[waxen helm]

Neither am I 😭I’m in freaking Birmingham

[timber canopy]

Read it in a couple of articles about the new verification stuff, it was in some of the ones where the CEO was interviewed

[keen rock]

Oh can you link them please?

[timber canopy]

Not Birmingham 😭😭

[toxic pawn]

Is anyone else having trouble getting responses from the bot? It's either leaving them blank or just repeating the word "smug." and all the variants?

[keen rock]

Like dm me them ♥️ much obliged

[timber canopy]

Change your chat style!

[timber canopy]

I don't do DMs.

[toxic pawn]

but i wanna use soft launch for- qwq you know-

[keen rock]

Oh can I have the new sources then? Like what news company published the articles

[timber canopy]

[keen rock]

So then I look on my own

[toxic pawn]

my bad i like that type of rps in the night... 🫠

[timber canopy]

Right...anyway, Pipsqueak can be a romantic chat style and it gives longer responses

[brisk shell]

do you guys have any ideas why i can only go on for 3 minutes then get kicked off for another whole day when i have 2 hours and it just reset?

[timber canopy]

Cause you got flagged as a minor

[keen rock]

It might because of the age assurance.

[waxen helm]

Me as a 19yr old in Birmingham bc it won’t let me verify my age

[keen rock]

Damn 💔

[timber canopy]

Us UK girlies don't have the feature yet 💔

[brisk shell]

so those like 30 minutes of waiting just was worthless?

[timber canopy]

Minors can't chat with bots anymore basically

[woven lantern]

Does anyone know how I can verify my age if the option isn't showing up in settings? Or am I simply not supposed to or able to do it?

[waxen helm]

I have it but I’m not in the states

[timber canopy]

Are you in the USA?

[brisk shell]

i aint even a minor im just not at home rn

[timber canopy]

Oh really!? Wait like the option is in your settings?

[keen rock]

Its slowly rolling out but it would be under advanced

[brisk shell]

i use my friends account on here for fun

[timber canopy]

Your bio says 13....

[waxen helm]

The option to verify?

[brisk shell]

my sisters friend

[timber canopy]

Yeah, like is it there?

[woven lantern]

No

[timber canopy]

So your not a minor using a 13 year olds account? Weird

[waxen helm]

Yeah it’s there idk why though like am I just an exception or smth💔

[timber canopy]

Then you don't need to verify yet, only USA users have the feature

[timber canopy]

You scared them away, they left

[fervent pilot]

maybe i’m the few who notice this because im a bot creator but i have this glitch where when i edit a character, it uses the last picture i used for the previous bot completely unprompted and it’s really annoying so i wanted to see if there was a fix or if anyone else was experiencing this !

[timber canopy]

That's so strange, are you using a VPN at all?

[waxen helm]

I don’t even know how to use one so either maybe or probably not💔

[timber canopy]

Wait so you have the advanced setting option despite being in the UK?? Can you post a pic in chat feed?

[halcyon cypress]

lol i've caught multiple minors pretending to be adults recently, they seem to think if they come on discord and say they're an adult the mods will be like "sorry sir/ma'am, our mistake" and restore their account no questions asked

[woven lantern]

Does anyone have any idea how likely it is that age verification will be required for ALL users, and not just in the United States? As far as I understand, they're only doing it in the United States.

[timber canopy]

It'll be global in a few months

[timber canopy]

This is actually hilarious 😭
Also Hello! Hope you are good today

[waxen helm]

Sure my timer js ran out so I don’t have that but I have the option for verification does that work?

[timber canopy]

Yeah like show the pic of the verification option

[halcyon cypress]

hi vivi! same to you

[timber canopy]

Thank you! Make sure to take care of yourself and eat/sleep well. I will go to sleep now, goodnight! 💖

[rustic pecan]

I need them to finish this rollout so I can be partially free from the madness.

[timber canopy]

Omg Rose, hello!

[waxen helm]

Wait I figured it out and now I feel stupid

[timber canopy]

Oh, what was it?

[rotund pivot]

I had an inquiry about making a bot regarding a game I play.

[woven coral]

Why do scotch eggs exist.

[halcyon cypress]

all these supposed "adults" in feedback who are enraged on behalf of the minors and insist 13 year olds can be mature

[left edge]

So when will they make it so you don’t get adds when switching bots

[timber canopy]

Because they're delicious and were the only thing keeping me going when I had covid 💔

[halcyon cypress]

i'm onto y'all

[woven coral]

YOU AGAIN AND THAT DAMN IMAGE

[rotund pivot]

How do I make it more accurate and game related? Like how people do with Honkai Star Rail, Zenless Zone Zero, Wuthering Waves, etc...

I really would like help, I am making my own first proper public bot and I want it to be good

[brave lily]

They ain’t removing that.

[left edge]

Why

[brave lily]

Because they ain’t, that’s why.

[left edge]

What’s their excuse? Is it to make more profit

[woven coral]

I don't mind the ads tbh

[brave lily]

Yes, the need to make money to give us a service.

[waxen helm]

I didn’t know my mum had included me in a vpn plan I fixed it now I just have to wait for the thing to reach Europe 💔

[left edge]

But ads should not appear mid chat or switching bots

[brave lily]

It’s only at the start of a chat, not the middle of it.

[woven coral]

When do they appear mid chat??

[halcyon cypress]

why do people act like profit is a bad thing lol if a company makes no profit they have to shut down

[timber canopy]

Omg that's awful 😭

[rotund pivot]

That actually happens?

[woven coral]

Shit that has never happened??

[left edge]

when you exit a bot and go to another sometimes an ad will pop up

[trim sphinx]

Yall know why the ID verification isn’t working for some reason?

[brave lily]

Yeah, it only pops up when you go into a new chat.

[timber canopy]

That's normal

[woven coral]

Whoa it's almost like... The company needs to make a profit to continue making the service free for users.

[halcyon cypress]

"ugh this company just wants to make money 🙄" yeah? they're not a charity and they have huge business expenses

[trim sphinx]

And I get ego’ed

[left edge]

So they should only appear when u exit a bot or smth

[woven coral]

That's.

[brave lily]

Only when you enter to chat.

[timber canopy]

That's more disruptive imo

[rotund pivot]

@woven coral sorry for the ping mate, but I really need help about making a character for a roleplay 🙏

[halcyon cypress]

someone was arguing the other day that there should be no slow mode for free users and everyone should have unlimited messages and memory lol. they have no idea how much it actually costs to run the servers for 30m+ users i fear and what a massive strain that would be

[rotund pivot]

How do I make my bot more accurate to the game i base it on? Like people do it with various games and let people use it for a roleplay

[left edge]

Thats even worse imo

Unlimited msgs for everyone would fill so much data I fear

[woven coral]

Oh of course, what would you like help with?

[left edge]

It’s like ram there’s a limit

[halcyon cypress]

yeah the servers would be crashing constantly and it would cost them millions

[woven coral]

God, people are so wack with that

[rotund pivot]

@woven coral this one here

[brave lily]

Come to think of it, I’ve never thought of C.ai having a message limit. It’s most likely a very high limit tbh.

[left edge]

And this is why C.AI+ because you can’t just let everyone have ♾️ messages

[rotund pivot]

Such examples are Honkai Star Rail, Zenless Zone Zero, Wuthering Waves, etc. I wanna make one like that.

[left edge]

Like with everyone chatting all at once (you should know what will happen)

[halcyon cypress]

they were trying to argue it wasn't fair plus users can get past slow mode

[brave lily]

I thought we all had unlimited messages. Free users get a high number limit, right?

[left edge]

And free users can message as much as they want too just with ads

[woven coral]

Well, what's the lore surrounding the game and how does your character interact with said lore? What about how your characters would interact with characters from the game?

[left edge]

If im right

[woven coral]

Try to think of character behavior when making a bot

[rustic pecan]

CAI is one of the most generous apps for free users but some people aren’t ready to hear that .

[halcyon cypress]

sometimes when the server is under heavy load free users can get put into slow mode but you still get unlimited messages

[brave lily]

That makes sense really. Even then, the slow mode doesn’t feel all that slow sometimes.

[sonic pumice]

wdym free users dont get unlimited messages?

[left edge]

Everyone has unlimited messages. It’s just that free users have adds with it

[timber canopy]

Literally, I've been a free user for almost 3 years and I've never felt the need to buy plus because I'm so happy with what I have

[halcyon cypress]

i think they were talking more about slow mode but idk

[unkempt kayak]

Though that is, unfortunately, the majority of people who use it

[left edge]

The ads are like a “break” for the servers Think about it

[woven coral]

Exactly

[timber canopy]

Huh??

[brave lily]

Very generous. It’s why I like C.ai. Even for the free tier, you still get a lot out of the service.

[rotund pivot]

Ah, sorry, I misphrased it. I meant to do a roleplay on the game itself. Kinda hard to explain since I am new to this.

Just wanted to know if there was anything I could do in the bot settings to make it respond better regarding the game roleplay

[left edge]

C.AI+ is optional and is just another way to support the dev(s)

[sonic pumice]

slow mode is like the last thing i can complain abt

[harsh dagger]

does anyone have the problem where the Bot just says: "your/they feel/are [action] and also [same action they just damn said]"?

[timber canopy]

Please don't tell me they're actually getting rid of unlimited messages...

[rotund pivot]

Besides, slow mode does not even feel that slow...?

[brave lily]

If they were doing that, I’d actually be upset about it..

[harsh dagger]

slow mode is like half a second slower than og to me

[sonic pumice]

i wish they could adjust the cost based on the users country tho :c im brazilian and its just way too expensive to even consider buying

[left edge]

Local pricing?

[woven coral]

Oh I see now, hm. Well what kind of game is it? RPG, JRPG, MMO etc?

[sonic pumice]

that

[halcyon cypress]

yeah i do think there should be regional pricing

[left edge]

Will there be a full screen app for iPad users?

[timber canopy]

Ooh, but I'm still a bit confused...are they getting rid of unlimited messages or not?

[rotund pivot]

RPG gacha game, Duet Night Abyss! (Without the gacha pool lmao)

[wraith zenith]

Now for us who pay we get broken bots

[rustic pecan]

No

[halcyon cypress]

no lol this person was just upset that plus users dont get slow mode and thought that is unfair

[rotund pivot]

Regarding the ads, there is a VERY nice browser extension~

[timber canopy]

Okay thank you, I was so confused for a minute 😭

[sonic pumice]

i mean it doesnt work w the app tho

[keen rock]

Or app 🙏 if you are on mobile

[rotund pivot]

Oh, fair, well I use desktop since I felt the most comfortable there

[timber canopy]

-# I don't even notice much of a difference on slow mode

[harsh dagger]

also ive gotten about 2 ads ever since ive been using cai (marc 2024)

[wraith zenith]

Does it block ads if you use Brave browser?

[brave lily]

Though C.ai may not be a perfect service, it’s still among my favorite Ai chat services tbh.

[keen rock]

Well i have news for you

[rotund pivot]

I think so, yeah.

[left edge]

It’s really just so the servers don’t get overrun

[woven coral]

Ah! So since it's an Rpg I recommend making your introduction lean more towards an RPG setting. The introduction is very important to how a conversation will play out and respond

[sonic pumice]

🕊️

[woven coral]

Your character's introduction to be exact

[halcyon cypress]

i saw someone in feedback saying its unfair plus users get more memory too and everyone should get better memory for free lol like these people have no idea how expensive things are

[rotund pivot]

Okay! Anything else I can do? Like, there is the whole lore that can help but I cannot instantly dump it on the bot. Is it advised to do that in the bot settings itself?

Since other game roleplays had the way to make characters known without the user reciting each one of them. Wanted to know if I could pull it off in some way?

[left edge]

What’s the slow mode for free users?

[sonic pumice]

these ppl are lying saying they actually use the memory feature i swear

[halcyon cypress]

plus members get more stuff bc we contribute more financially to help offset costs, very basic economics. and why would anyone even buy plus if the experience was exactly the same as the free version?

[sonic pumice]

it js slows the reply time and usually shortens the lenght of the reply so that the server doesnt crash

[rotund pivot]

We do get better memory once in a while, though it was a big issue several months ago. It is not as bad as it once was imo

[timber canopy]

As a free user, I've had no memory issues at all

[woven coral]

Well in my characters introductions I mostly give details on the surroundings and the character themselves. I also pin messages constantly so characters have better memories of themselves

[brave lily]

Ngl, I feel like it’s fair that paying users get better perks than the free users.

[woven coral]

Exactly!

[left edge]

So everyone has unlimited messages but at a different “pace”

[halcyon cypress]

yeah exactly. plus i think the free version is actually very generous, i used it happily for years with no issues

[sonic pumice]

yeah sorta? personally i dont notice much of a difference

[left edge]

Yes it has its flaws but st least it’s still a lot

[timber canopy]

I'm extremely happy with the free version

[uneven mural]

Why does it keep saying ‘This doesn’t meet our community guidelines’?

I’m trying to make a Princess Jasmine bot.

[woven coral]

...

[sonic pumice]

copyright

[rustic pecan]

It’s crazy people think paying members shouldn’t have extra perks or benefits lmao

[halcyon cypress]

especially when you compare to other apps ive tried that only let you send x amount of messages per day before you hit a paywall

[timber canopy]

Disney said no

[uneven mural]

Ooooh…

So I should rename her

[woven coral]

It's probably the kids saying this lets be so honest right now

[left edge]

Why did my bot get taken down for “local takedown request”?

[timber canopy]

Yep and try to remove any mention of the franchise in the bot

[brave lily]

Like I pay GamePass Ultimate. Is it pricy? Hell yeah it is, but I get better deals and perks compared to people on lower tiers and free users.

[timber canopy]

What character was it?

[rotund pivot]

So I can write characters, information, and more in the bit settings directly? Like, the bot editing section

[halcyon cypress]

lol they were arguing the perks should be only aesthetic like the ability to customize the appearance of your chat. i'm not paying $10 a month for that personally 😭

[sonic pumice]

even discords nitro is the perfect example of this lmao

[left edge]

Just abot I made with my partners and i’s avatar (the ai was based off my gf)

[sonic pumice]

i just think that even though people arent paying there shouldnt be something limiting their user experience bc of it (like 4 ads in a row trying to change chats)

[timber canopy]

Did you mention the word avatar at all...

[woven coral]

Yeah, you can actually give the bot quite a bit of info in the character bio too

[left edge]

The bot was named “Cosmo the bee cat”

[rustic pecan]

Why is Levi Ackerman suddenly all over my recommended omg

[halcyon cypress]

people complaining plus is useless and not worth the money while having nitro is one of my fave things

[rotund pivot]

THANK YOU SO MUCH! You saved me a lot of headache!

[woven coral]

Of course!

It took me a lot of tweaking to get my bots right so I wish you the best of luck

[halcyon cypress]

i had a million sirius black bots the other day i'm not even into HP like that

[uneven mural]

I changed it to ‘Princess Chel’ and it still says it’s no good?

[woven coral]

Keywords also work great too!

[timber canopy]

Cosmo may have gotten it flagged as it's the name of a character from guardians of the galaxy

[left edge]

What even is a “local takedown request”

[timber canopy]

Did you mention Aladdin or any other characters in the definition?

[left edge]

Thats a whole load of BS

[rotund pivot]

Ur the best, the reason I wanna do a roleplay about the game is because it ONLY has character specific bots currently, not the general game itself.

Ultimately I was like: "Fine, I'll do it myself"

[uneven mural]

I mentioned ‘the Genie.’

[timber canopy]

Yeah the blacklist system is very faulty

[left edge]

When a bot is taken down it should say “This Character was taken down due to a local takedown request. Reason: (Reason here)”

[timber canopy]

That may be why then, add an extra E onto it

[left edge]

So your saying my bot got (falsely) taken down for copyright

[woven coral]

I see, I absolutely think you'll do a good job

[uneven mural]

I made it ‘genie’ lowercase and named him Steve, it still won’t let me proceed?

[sonic pumice]

life would be better if the crash report actually reported why something crashed

[left edge]

It just flags every damn thing

[timber canopy]

Yeah, submit a ticket about it of you want and politely ping a mod asking for the ticket to be boosted make sure to add your ticket number

[rotund pivot]

That was all, good night folks. And thanks again Star!

[left edge]

Where would I ping a mod

[timber canopy]

Try geniee or gennie

[left edge]

Where would I make a ticket

[timber canopy]

You can do it here! Just check the menu and pick one who's online. As for the ticket, click the channel menu and head to links there's a support link at the top

[left edge]

So an admin basically

[keen rock]

#❓︱help-and-faq

[timber canopy]

Mods typically respond, admins don't

[uneven mural]

It’s still not working

[keen rock]

Make a ticket there

[left edge]

What would report reason be?

[timber canopy]

If you want to, send me a DM showing me the bot name, definition, subtitle and all that...I'll try to figure out what's causing it

[timber canopy]

Just put other

[left edge]

Ok

I don’t see “other”?

[uneven mural]

Done

[left edge]

If I don’t see other where would I put it under

Would it be “general inquiry”

[outer nymph]

It was less than an hour and it kicked me out what is this😭 ||I’m aware of the update and I’m not trying to complain about it||

[timber canopy]

Yeah do that one

[timber canopy]

They said the time limit would gradually decrease

[outer nymph]

O h

[left edge]

Why is the copy right system so flawed

[unkempt elbow]

dang I was literally on c.ai for less than an hour and I got a 24 hour breaktime 😭

[left edge]

Like wdym my bot is taken down for no reason

C.AI should really improve the copyright system (how long it has been out?)

[timber canopy]

They basically made a blacklist of words to make the takedown process quicker but it sniped other bots with similar names

[left edge]

So anything (COPYRIGHT NAME HERE) [extra text] or [extra text] (COPYRIGHT NAME HERE) was one shot

[rustic pecan]

Yes and you can make a ticket if your bot was unfairly sniped.

[left edge]

Do they not know just because a name has copyright meaning all bot(s) with said name(s) will be moderated

Or did they not realize

[rustic pecan]

They don’t want to and there’s no time manually take down all the offending bots soooo.

[wind siren]

Hola why doesnt my character.ai app have an edit button anymore bc my chats are having alot of spelling mistakes

[north ether]

OMG AND I WAS GONNA COMPLAIN ABOUT MY 23 HOUR BREAK 💔

[left edge]

I got timed out for no reason

[regal pilot]

[main glen]

i though open discussion on c.ai got banned for minors already yesterdya

[frail robin]

nah most lied about their age and remain unaffected by the changes.

[main glen]

im talking abt the ppl who got flagged

[halcyon zealot]

Is anyone else having verification issues??

[wild ibex]

Hiii yalll

[plush jungle]

DARK CHOCO COOKIE MENTIONED

[wind siren]

Pls someone?

[wanton path]

Why does Character.Ai group chats not have the ability to use voices when you add Multiple characters on it?

[plush jungle]

because you have a minor acc

minor accs dont have the edit button or soft launch i believe

[wind siren]

I have soft launch tho

Out of everything only the edit button is gone and I kinda need it bc the ai keeps doing its own thing after a bit

[fossil yoke]

stop everything!!!

[timber canopy]

Tbf there is a bug going around where people's edit button is going

[plush jungle]

probably that

[fossil yoke]

ok i was gonna tell everyon about how unfair that i cannot chat on character ai anymore and that the pardiona is just a lazy piece of shit but oh well...

[wanton path]

Can anyone answer my question? ^

[wild ibex]

Moderators like @harsh shoal are good to talk to for questions but make sure not to spam them if they don't DM you back right away

Lmao

[outer nymph]

Okay I only read the first part of it until I read the other half what are you talking about

[wind siren]

Is there a fix?

[timber canopy]

No not yet, I've heard that it's a bug for adult users...but if you're a minor then it's gone for good

[carmine lotus]

That would be too complex. You have to add a voice to a character after all. Adding 3 to one chat would make it mess up a lot

-# 3 being an example number

[wind siren]

Well I dont get any timeouts or anything so I guess its the bug

Ty for helping tho cause I was confused

[harsh shoal]

They have to ping me first if they want to DM me. I don't response to DMs unsolicited normally

[wild ibex]

Oh okay my bad 😅

[wanton path]

Oh sorry

But could you answer my question in dms @harsh shoal?

[harsh shoal]

Btw, just a reminder, I'm just a Discord mod. I can't do miracles

[wild ibex]

Lol 😂

[lethal hare]

About the “break” update they did, I don’t have too much of a problem with it even though it’s a wide range of things. But does anyone know how the 1 hour lines up?

I ask this because I’ve spent the whole day working and just got on the app before the break cut on…

[wild ibex]

My bad for the earlier message 😂

[fossil reef]

I can’t go a damn day, without after making two characters, I get an error…

[brave lily]

Mods!!! Unclog my toilet!!!! /j

😡

[fossil reef]

And can’t make anymore for the rest of the day

[harsh shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-they-dont-pay-me-gif-22708397

[wild ibex]

CAT 🐱

[hot ridge]

This is the wrong channel 💀

[wild ibex]

Still cute though

[formal cloak]

Just clean up my room btw I'm finna black out

No

[orchid dune]

Oh

Ok then. Thanks!

[brave lily]

Bro about to get smacked by Thor’s hammer.

t h u d

[wild ibex]

[rustic pecan]

Why do yall admit to these things? Have we not learned to keep quiet and let things happen?

[cerulean sorrel]

don't mind me, just waiting for my update on my ticket(s)

[hot ridge]

clearly they are invincible

[orchid dune]

Damn sorry

[cerulean sorrel]

-# for context I was a bit panicky when the verification kept failing and I sent about 3-4 tickets

[wild ibex]

Hey rise how did you change your c.ai+ to dusk I have c.ai+ regular

[hot ridge]

you don't have the c.ai+ role, re-link your discord account on c.ai and then it'll show up under #✨︱shiny-roles

[wild ibex]

Kk

Brb

[tiny hinge]

Awwwww kitty

[dusky wigeon]

Help. I’m 18+, but I can’t go two minutes without the chat giving me a break for a whole day and I can’t confirm that I’m 18+

[rustic pecan]

Connect your discord and CAI account and go to #✨︱shiny-roles !

[dusky wigeon]

The age stuff is bricked for me

[tiny hinge]

What breed is that i love cats

[frail lance]

my camera is to crappy for me to verify my ID so im cooked

[hot ridge]

she's a tortie point siamese!

[tiny hinge]

She look drawable

My cat is my pfp is someone care too

[frail lance]

steals

[hot ridge]

kitty

[fossil reef]

I want to know why I am only restricted to make only 2 characters a day?!

[hot ridge]

huhhhh

[fossil reef]

It was NEVER like that last I checked

[wild ibex]

K thanks

[tiny hinge]

I put my car in pets if someone is interested

[hot ridge]

we're limited on character creation now?

[timber canopy]

That's not possible, you can make any characters no matter how many. What does it say when you try?

[fossil reef]

Well, whenever I try to make a third character in a day, I get an error

[fossil reef]

Read the text above

[timber canopy]

Oh I see, did you try to crop the pfp or change it?

[hot ridge]

try cropping the pfp, if it's not fixed by that, then it could be a word in the tagline, greeting, or description causing it to not go through

[fossil reef]

Huh…ok I’ll try that

[wild ibex]

[fossil reef]

Actually I might have a little idea on what it might be

[hot ridge]

or maybe the name even, if it's something too close to a character that was removed for DMCA

[fossil reef]

I’m trying to name her Mjölna, I think the “ö” is causing it.

[tiny hinge]

I’m feeling glad that I’m somehow safe from the age verification

I’m feeling glad i got sunshine

[spring beacon]

OH HELL NAH I JUST CAME TO C.AI TO CHAT AND MY LIMIT WAS UP I WAS ON READING MODE ALL DAY-
*crash out *

[fossil reef]

As am I, probably because, A: I was one of the beta testers, or B: I make 18+ characters

[fossil reef]

And before anyone asks, no none of them are suggestive, it’s just curse words

[tiny hinge]

Hey i see pjsk

[spring beacon]

HELL YEAH FELLOW PJSK FANNNN

[frail lance]

share your secrets (:

[tiny hinge]

Are you kidding me I can’t enter your server

[wild ibex]

I been safe because I did the age verification 👀

[tiny hinge]

Like the tag

[edgy ferry]

For me it's no

[spring beacon]

You can’t???

[edgy ferry]

But. I. Am. F#cked

[tiny hinge]

They need to verify my phone number but I don’t have one

[spring beacon]

OOP

[edgy ferry]

FOR WHAT??

[tiny hinge]

Entering a sever

[silent onyx]

no server should need your phone number???

[edgy ferry]

Oh I'm safe ❤️🥹

[brave lily]

Discord?

[tiny hinge]

Well this one does

[dense quail]

Yeah idk some discord servers are super strict

[brave lily]

A few discord servers I’m in require a verified phone number.

[silent onyx]

that's absolutely insane. do not give them your phone number

[edgy ferry]

At this point c.ai is trying to get rid of 90% of the accounts including me

[dense quail]

welcome to the internet

[brave lily]

90%? Ain’t that a lil too high?

[frail lance]

someone here is gonna find a way around it dont worry

[edgy ferry]

Definitely

[timber canopy]

It can sometimes, one time this server got so wild it switched so only verified phone number people could talk

[dense quail]

Or just move on

[brave lily]

90% of what, exactly?

[edgy ferry]

I HOPE

[solid rock]

it's probably even higher, let's be honest

[tiny hinge]

What a bad day to don’t have one

[edgy ferry]

Accounts that uses c.ai

[timber canopy]

-# minors only make up 30% of the platform but aight

[rustic pecan]

It’s not 90% of accounts and it’s so funny to me people say minors make up 70-90% of users depending on who’s making up stats.

[edgy ferry]

I CAN'T MY SHAYLA ALUCARD 😭

[silent onyx]

okay no this is different than simply age verification. giving our your phone number is a completely different beast

[brave lily]

The majority of C.ai users are adults afaik.

[rancid oyster]

-# 30% of the accounts on c.ai are minors, others are adults.

[dense quail]

No, the server can’t see your phone number it’s just a verification thing

[solid rock]

even then, people don't trust AI age verification

[rustic pecan]

Doesn’t Discord already have phone numbers just to use the app lmfao

[solid rock]

its also a bit concerning to the individual

[edgy ferry]

Plus. I kinda blame the parents for not parenting because the kids/teenagers are just kyt over A DANG BOT

[solid rock]

well yeah...

[edgy ferry]

FRR, THEY CAN'T EVEN READ IT 😐💢

[rustic pecan]

The cases are more complicated than “blame parents” if you actually read about them.

[frail lance]

yeah most people wont really do it either because theres other things they can do or because they dont trust it, i cant because my camera is buns

[rustic pecan]

But getting into that topic is something people can’t handle lmao.

[solid rock]

i dont even got a camera

[edgy ferry]

I'll try to do it idc if my camera is buns

[solid rock]

im like, super low end

[neat flint]

Guys im unable to chat with characters do any of yall know whats going on?

[brave lily]

You have to verify.

[dense quail]

The third impact

[frail lance]

my problem also includes a severe baby face that i cant exactly fix so either way im cooked

[solid rock]

the limit is placed on all though, right?

[edgy ferry]

Well, I'm going to the website instead lol

[solid rock]

website's the same

[brave lily]

Unless the age thingamabob thinks you’re under 18, you won’t have the limit.

[edgy ferry]

Well going back to chai 💔

[orchid crag]

Yeah the break is meant to ween the younger folks off C.Ai so when it shuts down for them they don't get hit with withdrawal

[solid rock]

and people dont like that part because they don't trust it or just cant in rare cases

[brave lily]

For the most part, yeah.

[dense quail]

no, they’re just gonna jump ship to other less safer, less SFW websites

[frail lance]

oh yeah i done did and i cant stay on one of those sites for more then 5 minutes without seeing some.. special things

[orchid crag]

Not C.Ai's problem unfortunately

They've done their part

Other platforms will likely be forced to adopt similar verification as well

[edgy ferry]

Well, I shouldn't be worried because I don't have the age verification yet

[final shore]

Are there any mods I can chat with??

[brave lily]

-# like Janeater.

[edgy ferry]

🤷‍♀️

[solid rock]

is there really any other SFW one

[dense quail]

unlike c.ai, where they bend over back for investors, other websites won’t

[orchid crag]

Ans when the lawsuits come filing in and governing bodies see cali's law? They will

[rustic pecan]

Oh no a company doesn’t want more lawsuits. How awful of them

[dense quail]

ehhhhhh

[frail lance]

carter seems mostly ok though i have not used it much yet so it could easily go bad

[edgy ferry]

Just use the app called kindred

It's easy to use

[brave lily]

Ngl, I’m still gonna stick with C.ai. May not be perfect but I still like it a whole lot.

[solid rock]

thats because its the most known

[dense quail]

yeah it’s fine if it thinks when your 18+

[solid rock]

there's insane diversity on there, why wouldn't you go on c.ai?

[brave lily]

Good thing i am 18+.

[dense quail]

yeh so this entire thing doesn’t effect you

[brave lily]

I know, that’s why I’m sticking with it.

[unique flicker]

The AI verification refuses to verify me because “Im not looking directly at the camera” My bad i literally can’t even though to me it appears as i am💔💔

[edgy ferry]

Good for you 🥹❤️

[brave lily]

Thanks…

[unique flicker]

Hating heavy

[edgy ferry]

While I am JUST SUFFERING 😭

[sterile slate]

Same

[solid rock]

but i find it a little odd that AI is being used to verify age. there can very well be a multitude of false positives and negatives, like maybe you got some baby face or smth... just the WAY you look they judge you and i dunno if that is very helpful

[brave lily]

Like that one meme where Squidward is in his house and he watching SpongeBob and Patrick play.

[sterile slate]

I’m 20

[edgy ferry]

FRR I AM SQUIDWARD

[brave lily]

26 here.

[cerulean sorrel]

the thing is, I went through persona before on a different website being Roblox itself, and it did not prompt a ID whatsoever with the selfie not misunderstanding, but here it just doesn't care

[hot ridge]

that's why they have Persona in case it's wrong

[sterile slate]

Oop

[solid rock]

bro what

[frail lance]

im 19 and i look like a 14 year old, im cooked

[dense quail]

Just use your ID man

[brave lily]

Happens when you’re born in 99.

[sterile slate]

‘05 here

[frail lance]

my camera quality is ass man it wont verify it

[hot ridge]

???? Persona, the third party service that has selfie and ID, in case c.ai's age prediction model is wrong

[edgy ferry]

You can't use ID right?

[dense quail]

You can

[frail lance]

it makes me do both the face and ID and its annoying

[edgy ferry]

I'm a use a fake person for face ngl

[orchid crag]

Could always try to sign in on another device? Maybe a friend's phone or something? Snap a quick pic to get verified then sign out.

If that is feasible ofc

[frail lance]

i might try

[rotund pollen]

GUYS IS C.AI DOWN OR IS MY WIFI JUST HORRIBLE RN.

[edgy ferry]

Can you do or choose only one at least? 😨 (Please say yes)

[old otter]

Guys my c.ai won’t work it’s like the characters won’t show up and everytime I send a text it like “error refresh” or whatever

Is it like this for just me or??

[frail lance]

idk if i can

[rotund pollen]

IT BETTER NOT BE DOWN IM GONNA EXPLODEEE ITS THE SAME FOR ME

[edgy ferry]

CHECK

[timber canopy]

It's not

[rotund pollen]

Okay good guys im okay thank you im safe life is good again🙏

[harsh shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/russell-westbrook-westbrook-basketball-player-american-basketball-player-nba-gif-16377419

[hot ridge]

[timber canopy]

Try Vpn

[harsh shoal]

90%?

https://tenor.com/view/people-who-be-desperate-for-attention-kamedwards-kameron-edwards-sigh-annoying-gif-15490938148885036745

[rustic pecan]

Lmao

[cerulean sorrel]

also riddle me this, why is there no option for a identification card

[sterile slate]

Mines working

[edgy ferry]

YOU CAN'T CHOOSE? YOU HAVE TO DO BOTH?

[hot ridge]

I haven't even used c.ai in like 2 weeks...

[frozen saddle]

Guys did they remove more copyrighted characters because theres like no Hiccup bots now

[edgy ferry]

SAME 😭

[timber canopy]

No if selfie fails then ID next

[cerulean sorrel]

somehow that happens 99% of the time

[edgy ferry]

I hope I don't fail but can I retake it?

[lime imp]

Like two months ago

[timber canopy]

You can't with the selfie

[edgy ferry]

Yeah, I'm deleting the app

[frozen saddle]

WHAT???? i swear i was talking to so many hiccup bots like 2 months ago

[edgy ferry]

This makes me sick tbh

[orchid crag]

Got caught in the cross fire of Disney unfortunately 😭

[frozen saddle]

I hate disney so much

[timber canopy]

But I think you can if it was blurry? Not sure

[frail lance]

im about to take a sharpie to my face lol

[brave lily]

But you could with the ID?

[edgy ferry]

They BETTER accept my blurry selfie

[timber canopy]

Yeah

[lime imp]

Well disney and universal

[edgy ferry]

Nah I'm using ai

[brave lily]

Thank you, my homie.

[timber canopy]

No problem!

[rustic pecan]

My app is so slow all of a sudden waaaah

[eternal flower]

Listen guys I'm gonna say this as nicely as possible: I WILL TAG EVERY PERSON RESPONSIBLE JUST TO HAVE THE BOT STOP TYPING FOR ME.

[frozen saddle]

Im hoping people somehow get past the whole copyright thing and make more httyd bots

[old otter]

It actually worked thanks dude

[timber canopy]

No problem!

[cerulean sorrel]

29th attempt on me doing the selfie and it keeps being unsure and asks for ID

already sent a ticket and pinged a mod, losing hope right now

[brave lily]

And no ID to use?

[rancid monolith]

This new c.ai update is making me so mad, it's recommending me all of the old chats I used to like. Like no bro I don't want to talk to bakugo from mha 💔

[limber coyote]

Yeah me too, couple of day back all the recommendation is bakugo...like..i never even chat with that character 💀

[cerulean sorrel]

I do have an identification card, being one of those vertical ones instead of the horizontal ones which is a state one, yet it doesn't work

[rancid monolith]

Hes taking over. He's gonna start hopping the server borders, he's going to start multiplying like cells bro

[frail lance]

what i wanna know is where all The Orville chats at man, i want more of them

[frail lance]

Bacteria

[rancid monolith]

I have that problem with able 💔

[rancid monolith]

Yeah, bros multiplying faster than cancer cells

[frail lance]

im leaving my character AI open just to see if its gnna do the thingy

its been an hour now and its not down yet soo

[rancid monolith]

Oh?
Like before the update I was getting all my usual recommendations. Now all I'm seeing is MHA and I actually have to continuously refresh to find the stuff I normally get recommended

[frail lance]

yeah im lowke getting tired of mha being the first thing i see, i dont even chat with mha bots

[supple oak]

I just got a notification from Reddit and someone said that they will be taking it down next week because the money went down. I'm going to see if I can upload the screenshot or they will probably take it down.😀✌🏾

[frail lance]

taking what down

[supple oak]

Idk tbh. That's all they said

[frail lance]

i mean obviously they will loose money if they remove a portion of the community, a lot of people prob don't wanna do the verification just for an AI chat bot you can find easily on another site

[rustic pecan]

LMFAO REDDIT

[supple oak]

LOL

I can't upload. 😀✌🏾

[solid rock]

well yeah there are many other websites

[frail lance]

i wann asee the post

[supple oak]

It won't let me upload it. 😔

[cerulean sorrel]

any proof on this? you can DM it

[frail lance]

dms :D?

[frail robin]

be fr rn. its fcking Reddit. They literally say whatever there.

[rustic pecan]

there’s not even enough time for them to tell how this financially impacts them. They won’t know for months what they may have lost. They know this choice will lose them some money, but they’d lose more in continuous litigation.

[supple oak]

Alr

[frail robin]

I swear the people mad keep escalating things for no reason and get mad at that.

[jovial rose]

What model is the least filled with bland info in you guys opinion? (Aka thats in the best state)

[hot ridge]

I'm convinced AI chatbots rot people's brains

[rustic pecan]

They make up things in their heads to get mad about.

[frail lance]

carter seems alr you just gotta tell it not to play your character sometimes

[frail robin]

1. cant chat anymore
2. they lose a chunk of their userbase
3. they lose a lot of money
4. age verification is coming for all of us
5. privacy is over
6. parents fault

like what else is the new material here?

[brave lily]

That they simply don’t like it.

[frail robin]

yeah they make up sht and get mad at those

[jovial rose]

"But I have real connections with AI"

Uhm: DON'T?!

[hot ridge]

"I heard on tiktok another kid died"

[rustic pecan]

Like how is a company gonna know in a week their financial state? They won’t 😭

[jovial rose]

Like: the first you see when you open a chatbot is capital letters: THIS IS NOT A REAL PERSON

God forbid you make real friends, no. Mindless chatbot letsgooooo

[frail robin]

they have this slippery slope mindset. yk that one Domino meme?

except they literally think that the smallest piece is c.ai banning u18s from chatting and the biggest being like this 1984, no more privacy, one-world government thing.

they catastrophize so much.

[limber coyote]

Damn, im actually laugh at this

[empty leaf]

Glad theyre adding the limit for exactly those reasons

[brave lily]

Plus, some of the subreddit think that minors make the majority of the user base when it’s actually adults that make the majority of the user base. I guess the minor user base is the loud minority. ||Ba dum tss ||

[rustic pecan]

Truuuue

[jovial rose]

Like: The people who treat their characters like real person are so dumb and obnoxious... Like, do they realise how actually dumb LLMs are by their base structure

There is no thinky thinky

It's just: OH I GET INPUT. MUST GIVE OUTPUT.

[limber coyote]

Thinky-thinky 😂

[frail robin]

legit information that doesnt fit my predisposed bias: ❎

information from tiktok, totally trustworthy: ✅

[jovial rose]

?

[frail lance]

i feel like the time limit was plenty enough for young users, maybe raise it up to 16+ but jebus.

[maiden blade]

Wait so what app are people leaving c.ai for now?? Or are people still gonna stay for them regardless of this update

[frail robin]

people ignore actual info while running ahead with those they get from tiktok because of their biases

[empty leaf]

tiktok users make up stuff to get those 100k followers and it absolutely SUCKS

Instead of helping they just make whatever they can to fool others

[jovial rose]

They will re-group and ruin another ai app

[frail robin]

lol. most ai apps are complete scam.

[jovial rose]

It's like the matrix, the amount of dumb people don't change, the math always evens out... They will find a place to group.

[frail robin]

they literally exist to farm ads.

yes, a lot of them have ads. way before c.ai. hm, curious why no one is pointing that out? i thought we were against ads?

[jovial rose]

💵 💰

[empty leaf]

emochi be like

[frail robin]

why are they suddenly resorting to apps that have even more ads than c.ai, despite them supposedly being against ads when c.ai added them?

hmm.... 🤔

what could be the reason why they are letting these other apps slide.

[left edge]

idk

[jovial rose]

I hope they reset the bots after the soft nuke-ing of bad accounts, so people with intellectual Roleplays can refill the knowledge of the bots

I.E: Bot becomes smort.

[empty leaf]

c.ai might as well be "date a character simulator" i barely find people who actually roleplay

[frail robin]

its not that easy but yeah hopefully the ai improves.

[empty leaf]

yeah you can chat about anything but like. wheres the roleplay.

[jovial rose]

If anything Deepsqueek and Pipsqueek are a testiment to how well they learn from the heavy bulk of the Community.

They are the worst cuz they use the info they get the most amount.

send one liners

gets one liners

complains on reddit

[frail robin]

lol

[brave lily]

I do know the servers will be a bit better now with less people on the server load now though.

[empty leaf]

C.ai subreddit sucks

[jovial rose]

Why cant the bot write 20 pages of romance novels after I said "i like you"? It's shit its a scam its bad its awful. DO NOT TRY TO REMOVE MY ACCESS

[jovial rose]

One guy got downvoted to hell for saying: how about you just rp better...?

[left edge]

?

[ionic frigate]

Bro what is this new update…

[pliant cape]

Hi…. I don’t mean to come and complain or anything but, why did i get a pop up when i was trying to swipe a message saying “Unlock 3x more swipes upgrade to c.ai+” ??? Does c.ai really think i have enough money for that??.. no. Another thing, why does the bots randomly start saying random stuff when i don’t type anything and stuff?? I don’t know if that really makes any sense sorry.. ONE MORE THING. Why has the memory been so bad lately?? I’m severely bothered by this. Listen, this seems kinda dumb for someone to be complaining about a bot but i’m just trying to do role-plays and stuff and its just gets in the way

[jovial rose]

Current state of reddit

[left edge]

What update

[ionic frigate]

There's gonna be a chat timer

[frail lance]

you can delete the message then reload it, completely reseting it

[empty leaf]

most people complaining about the age limit could use wattpad or ao3 if they only use it to selfship with characters

[jovial rose]

The reason why the bot types is cuz away messages is on likely

[left edge]

When

[pliant cape]

Whats that-

[rustic pecan]

No there’s not oh my god

[ionic frigate]

In 30 days it told me, it says they will be starting to only allow 2 hours of something

[left edge]

Why

[rustic pecan]

Bc you’re a minor.

[orchid crag]

1. C.ai hustle
2. Dialogue examples or past chats can influence
3. Server load prolly w/ all that's been going on

[golden mantle]

HOLY SHIT

[jovial rose]

Go to the bot's page in your chat.

If you go down you see it. Its name is pretty self explainatory...

[ionic frigate]

That's amazing

[rustic pecan]

The limit does not apply to adults.

[pliant cape]

sorry😓

[golden mantle]

ARE THERE ANYTHING TO PICK OTHER THAN BL AND GL IN MY GODDAMN "For You" PAGE??? "Hide For Me" DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

[ionic frigate]

Thx for letting me know 😔

[left edge]

What limits do adults have

[brave lily]

None

[restive fulcrum]

None

[empty leaf]

none

[golden mantle]

Delete the bot's message and let it generate again

You're welcome

[jovial rose]

Anyway back to this: Like where do these people think the LLM gets its roleplay ideas? Do they think CAI with it's idk... 5 employees will feed the bot to be this smart? No. They take the community's rps lol...

[deft jetty]

The same as usual, the censoring still exist, but other than that, no other restrictions

[left edge]

K

[jovial rose]

Most basic shit about an LLM that everything you do will be recycled into the system...

[hot ridge]

Just the explicit content censor

[brave lily]

Ngl, I don’t understand why some want the censor to be removed. It doesn’t need to be a Not Safe For Job site like some other ai sites.

[rustic pecan]

I think the censor can be a bit looser, but it should be there tbh

[golden mantle]

Violence and other genre feels way too restricted

They're focusing too much on romance slop

[jovial rose]

I feel like they could tone it down but not entirely remove it...

[brave lily]

Like what Rise said, the censor could be a bit more lax but not removed.

[golden mantle]

Forgot to add that

[hot ridge]

I haven't been restricted for violence since before the adult/minor model split

[left edge]

?

[brave lily]

When it comes to violence, I feel like it could be how Batman Arkham Knight makes violence. Though two different types of entertainment, Batman Arkham Knight has violence but it isn’t over the top. If C.ai should do violence, it should allow it but it shouldn’t be over the top.

[golden mantle]

Gave the bot a slight boo-boo and it got flagged as "too inappropriate"

[jovial rose]

Btw you can also add begging people to not delete their account

Like it does literally anything...

[left edge]

Should really improve the f44lt1ng

[brave lily]

True. A bit more lax but not removed would be suffice tbh.

[golden mantle]

The devs sometimes ban words (e.g. I am trying to say su+cide for a context, but the bot says call for help)

But when I ban a word, the bot always finds a way to bypass that ban

It shows that they CAN make the feature better, they just won't

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[marsh sage]

question, i dont read the updates but did they remove editing? i cant edit neither my nor the the bot’s messages

[silent onyx]

minors can't edit messages. that's been around for a while

[harsh shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/jazz-emu-jazzemu-the-jazz-emu-thejazzemu-grunky-scripples-gif-17214636740000557826

[supple oak]

Nice. ✌🏾

[rustic pecan]

Edit is also bugged rn if you’re an adult

[harsh shoal]

[harsh shoal]

Bad news, not bugged

[hot ridge]

adults can't edit anymore???

[golden mantle]

From what I know, only latest messages can be edited

[forest furnace]

Hi there, if you lost certain features, like editing, it looks like you're in the under 18 experience. If you are over 18, please follow the steps in our Age Assurance flow to get the over 18 experience. See detailed instructions and best practices here: https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/articles/43665577363739-How-do-I-verify-my-age-Best-Practices-and-FAQ

Message sent by a server moderator.

[rustic pecan]

Gooood to know ty

[hot ridge]

OOOH

[golden mantle]

What's happened with editing that this occured

[hot ridge]

people under 18 haven't been able to edit for awhile. Their new age detection stuff kicks people to a minor account if they think they're a minor lying about their age on an adult account

[keen rock]

We love misinformation/j

[supple oak]

Nice. 😃

[keen rock]

Im sorry 😭

[golden mantle]

Is editing messages bad now 😭

[harsh shoal]

People have been moved to the U18 experience

[strange inlet]

hi kappa hru 👋

[hot ridge]

Well it was removed for minors so that minors can't manipulate bot messages to be something inappropriate

[harsh shoal]

In need of a monster rn

but all in all, doing well

[strange inlet]

I have a few pipeline punches if u want

[golden mantle]

Damn. I use edit to remove out-of-character explanations like, "User likes that, but won't admit." or when fixing a grammar

With the current state of C.AI, I would actually stop using it now

It feels way too restricted, too many problems, and too many things that are negative to count

[left edge]

Will iPad users ever get a fullscreen app

[broken trellis]

quick and unrelated question, are there any mods online or someone I can talk to about my age verification problems or not

[wild ibex]

Jeez it's 10:00 pm rn

[hot ridge]

yeah I unsubbed, I'm having more fun being creative on my own than talking to AI

[harsh shoal]

@broken trellis https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/articles/43665577363739-How-do-I-verify-my-age-Best-Practices-and-FAQ

Everything you need to know is there

[hexed scroll]

i turned 18 weeks ago yet i still got flagged

[broken trellis]

the thing is: i sent 3 tickets but they didn’t respond correctly and told me how to verify my age instead of different ways to verify my age or actually helping me

[leaden trout]

unrelated ish? Not completely unrelated but I hate the new update, im a minor so I have the one hour time limit (it’s rigged sometimes and I’ve been on it less than an hour and it gives me the thing) AND the bots have gotten freakier and I HATE it 💔

[wild ibex]

Depends how you interact with the app I think

[broken trellis]

+attachments btw

[harsh shoal]

Can you give me your ticket number?

[hexed scroll]

i did the same, i got something completely unrelated to what i was asking for

[broken trellis]

all 3 or my first one?

wait that was a dumb question mb lol

how do I check my ticket number

[vestal hull]

Wait I'm confused will it be 18+ EVERYWHERE after they're done with the us?

[wild ibex]

Night y'all hope y'all have a good thanksgiving 🩷

[harsh shoal]

Should be in your emails

the number in ()

[strange inlet]

yea

[broken trellis]

() or []?

[harsh shoal]

the numbers

[stray jacinth]

I cant verify my age because of my Samsung Galaxy 9+

[vestal hull]

Well that's stupid can't get hey just keep it limited for under 18 users tf

[strange inlet]

should look like that

[hexed scroll]

people are getting wrongly flagged thats the problem

[broken trellis]

um um um

[stray jacinth]

Like the feature to get the camera has be Samsung galaxy 11 or more

And I'm using Galaxy 9+

[strange inlet]

Wait did I misread your question? It will only be limited for u18, after they're done rolling that for the US, they'll roll that out worldwide

[silent onyx]

it's the law

[hot ridge]

you're not technically wrongly flagged, they give you the option to verify after you're suspected of being a minor. Just verify

[vestal hull]

Yeah but on the announcement it's worded as if the chats will be fully disabled

[strange inlet]

Because they will be

[silent onyx]

they will

[vestal hull]

Not everywhere why tf do I gotta expose my stuff and risk getting my information leaked cuz the us decided that way I'm not in the us

[stray jacinth]

Tbh taking a break for almost a day is Actually good

[strange inlet]

For under 18 users, rn they're slowly weaning y'all by adding the timers

[strange inlet]

They're based in california, they have to follow california laws. Even if the law is different where you live, they still have to add theirs to the app

[tiny pecan]

Ok, screw this site. My device was DEAD almost all day, I turn it on, and... BAM, timer reset!

[stray jacinth]

Tbh why do the bots takes a turn to become weird as u chat them like 20 minutes there become weird

[forest furnace]

Do you look at my data?

To support our age assurance process, we are partnering with reputable third-party services like Persona, which is widely used today by companies like LinkedIn, OpenAI, Block, and Etsy.

Our service provider Persona processes your information to verify your age, identify fraud, and for quality assurance. Any biometric information is deleted within seven (7) days.

Message sent by a server moderator.

[strange inlet]

lol thx kappa

[restive fulcrum]

Why is my for you have bakugo?I don’t even watch MHA or even chat with their characters

[stray jacinth]

Is trending bots

[strange inlet]

My recommendations also have unrelated bots I fear the app just does that

[harsh shoal]

CEOs, Millionares, Professionals trust it. But nah, we have to believe the people saying it's unsafe

[burnt path]

Yall when I try to send a message I get a ‘’help is available’’ wtf is this

[vestal hull]

Wait question when they say turning off chat is that just bad wording or will it just be disabled forever for under 18 users or is it temporary to put in the changes

[strange inlet]

Redditors

[restive fulcrum]

Just giving me a whole bunch of bots I won’t even press on btw

[cerulean sorrel]

wait rare mod W

[tiny pecan]

Yep. I get Ghost (if you're familiar with COD, and this site, you know what I mean) NONSTOP!!! It's just... A THING!

[strange inlet]

Who doesn't know COD bruh

[stray jacinth]

Idk lol

[silent onyx]

as millie stated, since they are based in california, they must follow california laws. sooooo

[restive fulcrum]

There still working it out

[tiny pecan]

I mean like the characters/lore and junk.

[stable urchin]

7-7…I’m having withdraws I was just casually doing a angst RP with Simon and I got the timer..this is so unfair 🥹 all my angst

[strange inlet]

I've played it enough to know more than I should 😭

[harsh shoal]

Like, no-named sites like OpenAI, Etsy, and some unknown shady website named LinkedIn use Persona. Definitely not safe to use

[vestal hull]

I hate how every update is so badly worded like you don't know what's happening even when the ads came out we literally had no idea which actions actually caused a pop up

[strange inlet]

Gotta listen to Kappa kids

[silent onyx]

it's not badly worded. you just can't read.

[stray jacinth]

When's ads pop up it like takes my minute off😭

[restive fulcrum]

Oh I’m listening like he’s my teacher

[harsh shoal]

@broken trellis You got your ticket number yet?

[tiny pecan]

Yeah, I wanted to get back to my road trip with Pico and Sonic, and waited ALL DAY for the timer. I turn on my tablet, and not only did it reset... IT'S FIVE HOURS LONGER!!!

[vestal hull]

Okay way to be rude but it's never actually specified

[stray jacinth]

Some Bots change POV always

[silent onyx]

it is specified

[strange inlet]

I'm pretty sure it is specified

[stable urchin]

bro..I’m having fucming withdraws and my gf is laughing at me

[strange inlet]

This is why they're adding a limit btw, withdrawals

[restive fulcrum]

They don’t have to tell you the reasons for the pop ups it’s just well the LAW?

[hexed scroll]

i went from 18 hr break to 21 hrs

[tiny pecan]

If you're having ACTUAL withdrawals, then that may be an issue... But if you're exaggerating and are just ANNOYED, then understandable.

[stray jacinth]

Like I'm bob and bot is Bob Evil as I chat the bot changes the POV.

[silent onyx]

literally specified that they're turning off chats for -18 users

[stable urchin]

BRO..I’m having withdraw bcs of the limit..I was chilling making an angst RP and BOOM 21 hour limit

[stable urchin]

No I’m being dramatic

[strange inlet]

Yeah that's exactly why they're adding the limit😭 You kids are ADDICTED

[stray jacinth]

Almost every Apps has to verify somehow

[stable urchin]

🥹 I’m just obsessed with angst and c.ai was a way for me to do my angst

[strange inlet]

Addiction is a serious thing especially with AI 😞

[silent onyx]

go write angsty fanfics

[strange inlet]

Y'all should watch Eddy Burback's chatgpt video

[stray jacinth]

Ok

[stable urchin]

😭 Bro..I get harassed if I even tried..

[stray jacinth]

Is it good?

[strange inlet]

Do it for the love of the game and yourself, not the people

[tiny pecan]

Whoever made the timer... Bro, they're on something. Like, two hours chatting and three hour breaks are logical. Two hours chatting and a DAY break I just obnoxious?

[silent onyx]

oh god here we go again with the excuses i've heard a billion times by this point

[strange inlet]

Very well made

[stray jacinth]

Alr I trust u

[tiny pecan]

Do you know any good sites to do so? Genuinely curious and interested.

[hexed scroll]

first ones i can think of are wattpad and ao3

[silent onyx]

ao3, wattpad, quotev, fanfic net. pick your poison

[stable urchin]

And plus. It’s not the same with doing it with characters I like

[silent onyx]

you can write angsty oc fics for yourself

[hexed scroll]

I REMEMBER QUOTEV I TOOK THE DUMB QUIZZES WHEN I GOT BORED

loved it

[strange inlet]

Y'all just don't know how to do it, I used to write fanfiction on wattpad for the love of the game

[stable urchin]

It’s still not the same 🥹

[silent onyx]

then oh well, we don't know what else to say

i am legit tired of giving solid advice to these kids and getting excuses in return atp

[strange inlet]

I was 14 with a phone that would shut down completely if it was put down too hard and horrible english

[stable urchin]

I’m not giving excuses I’m saying how I feel about it

[tiny pecan]

I feel like I have a similar FEELING, but it's just because the chats let me visualize it more. Now, granted, I might have to correct the AI on what Infinite can do, but it's still somewhat different than writing a fanfic.

[silent onyx]

but it is, inherently, an excuse

[hexed scroll]

hey gremmie, off topic but do yk what the font in ur user is called?

[silent onyx]

modern

[stable urchin]

You see it as an excuse. Some people may not. I’m just saying how I feel about it. Writing fanfics isn’t the same with roleplaying at all whatsoever.

[rare elbow]

gremmie made a quick reply

[strange inlet]

Then find a safe roleplay server or do it with friends you trust in dms

[silent onyx]

then roleplay with friends or find a safe place to roleplay with people your age

[stable urchin]

I tried. But a lot of people don’t roleplay nowadays. And if they did it would be one liners. It’s really hard finding people to fit how you Roleplay and stuff if you get what I mean lmfao

[stray jacinth]

Half of it it's getting interesting its heading to the climax🤓

[broken trellis]

k this is an incredibly late reply but there’s no ticket number lmao

[silent onyx]

[strange inlet]

[thorny sky]

Please remove the time limit for chatting with characters..😫😫😫😫😫

[stray jacinth]

It's useful for u

[broken trellis]

fr dawg

[strange inlet]

They won't.

[stray jacinth]

Is for the Law right?

[restive fulcrum]

Hey it’s there for a reason u know?

[hexed scroll]

yup

[real stump]

I remember staying up until the crack of dawn rping with my friends and the stuff got heavy sometimes lmao, sometimes Genshin chat is what you use at 3am

And getting the most random words censored

[broken trellis]

@harsh shoal IM BACK I don’t have a ticket number, it just says RE: (info I gave)

[stray jacinth]

I'm so unlucky

Because it won't let me verify

[strange inlet]

Sometimes they send two emails, did you check both of them?

[broken trellis]

only have 1 lol

[thorny sky]

No, I don't know🥲

[strange inlet]

Huh weird

[broken trellis]

k I gtg byeeee mb btw

[strange inlet]

What's the title say? Maybe there's a number in the full email?

[stable urchin]

I remember the good old days where people would actually rp. But now people just say fuck it 😭…

[strange inlet]

Oh

[hexed scroll]

new law, its for the people under 18

[stray jacinth]

Why do I even verify if I'm a minor

[real stump]

It'd be fun because there's the big chat you do the rp in, and you'd always give orders in the private dms. I actually enjoyed doing it, and still do

[feral idol]

Are you serious? A TIME LIMIT? What is this, old chai?

[strange inlet]

It's the law

[thorny sky]

Oh, the new law for minors under 18, I understand.

[stable urchin]

Why don’t they just make an another c.ai but for younger people?. So everyone can be happy..

Also why are they making it 18+ now? (Sorry I’m like slow lmfao)

[strange inlet]

"Minors under eighteen"

[silent onyx]

we should just have a pop up in the server that just says "we're following the law" each time someone mentions the time limit

[stray jacinth]

Why now people sharing there age at reddit

[strange inlet]

Making another app costs too much, and there would still be restrictions. Because the law says there needs to be.

[lean marsh]

Nintendo will be next to send c. ai a c&d

and they’re gonna be like “follow the law”

[strange inlet]

Not the same thing

[visual hull]

Hello everyone!

[stray jacinth]

Hi

[stable urchin]

…but why are we making it 18+?—

[real stump]

Is it only ai platforms based in California getting the rules now? (I think I've asked this before)

[stray jacinth]

Chat how Should I verify

[split cairn]

As much as I hate the update, it’s needed because of the law based in California. There’s nothing Cai can do except move states or the law will have to change which probably won’t happen.

And I also think the law is a good idea for minors as minors shouldn’t have full internet access in the first place. And I’m saying this as a minor who was given internet access at the age of 6

[silent onyx]

THE. LAW.

[visual hull]

What's the discussion all about?

[strange inlet]

Because kids should not be using AI.

[stray jacinth]

That true tbh

[split cairn]

Just apps that have nudity and gore I think but I could be wrong

[lean marsh]

is youtube also in california

[stable urchin]

I don’t know the law in California so maybe be more specific

[stray jacinth]

I agree at the new Law at California

[split cairn]

Maybe do your research

[stable urchin]

Ok I see

[real stump]

To kinda go a bit more in, I think it has to do with something bad happening to a kid bc a bot told him to

[split cairn]

Sorry that’s mean lowkey 🙁

[stray jacinth]

Like the predator is common on third party apps

[real stump]

But idk if that's the only reason or if California is just making it a rule in general

[strange inlet]

It's more than that

[stable urchin]

Ohhh ok ok

[silent onyx]

there was a bill that was passed in california to have age verification added to ai sites. cai took it a step further (presumably with all the lawsuits and whatnot) to remove minors from chatting with bots on the site completely

[tranquil seal]

Why won't the accessibility settings stay when I re-open the app?

[warped crane]

I have returned

[stable urchin]

Sometimes the Internet doesn’t tell you a lot of things that’s why I don’t go to it I just ask people

[real stump]

Nah it's okay, sometimes it's confusing to research especially laws

[stable urchin]

Ok understandable

[split cairn]

Ya. I did my research and Cai is making the restrictions more harsh even though they don’t have to but It’s probably because the lawsuits and stuff. Just to avoid minors getting hurt from chatting ai bots

[silent onyx]

you literally could've looked up "laws in california based around ai" and results would pop up

[visual hull]

Why is it that anytime I come to this channel everyone is always discussing about c.ai, verification, minors and California rule? 🙄

[stray jacinth]

Mods has to delete the comments on reddit that shows there age

[split cairn]

Ya no that’s understandable actually

[strange inlet]

Because this is the cai discussion channel

[real stump]

It's the hot topic for the time (no pun intended for the store)

[silent onyx]

because people can't do their own research or read

[split cairn]

Maybe go to a different channel. It’s called Cai discussion for a reason.

[visual hull]

Yeah yeah.

[strange inlet]

😭

[stable urchin]

Not all the time it would usually give you other things until you can finally get to what you want

[visual hull]

Agree.

[silent onyx]

hell, discord has a search function within the server but no one uses that apparently

[strange inlet]

There's always the gen chats bruh this one is for discussing the app

[stray jacinth]

What if there add it to discord

[strange inlet]

discord doesnt have ai in it they wont add it

[stray jacinth]

Oh

[stable urchin]

Ok I think I’m done being dramatic about the limit lmfao

[visual hull]

I'm not trying to be rude, but no matter how you discuss about it, the Rule is the rule, it's not going to change anything.

[stray jacinth]

But some bots has ai but alr

[split cairn]

Literally what I said in so many channels

[stray jacinth]

I MEAN

[strange inlet]

It's user created content not made by discord themselves

[stray jacinth]

Apps but oki

[split cairn]

We are answering people’s questions and giving information about the age verification, we aren’t complaining about it, Infact we are agreeing with it

[real stump]

What if something happened and they added age veri to the Google ai

[visual hull]

Yeah, we've complained enough and we're tired