#💭︱cai-discussion

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final geyser
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Mine too

rocky ferry
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is anyones c.ai down?

leaden kraken
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Nope it still works for me

cerulean basin
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Especially deepseek, it getting worse every day

leaden kraken
# final geyser Mine too

I already send in 4 or 5 tickets for this problem, but haven't got a respons back at all. I came across a Discord user here who's had the bug close to a month and had to tag a mod, give their ticket numbers, and ask them to bump it

round heart
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-# I know right like no I did not cry cause I was scared I literally shot you

faint anchor
leaden kraken
lavish talon
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what do i do if one of my bots says "Moderated" ?

heavy terrace
lavish talon
cold robin
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is it possible to delete your c.ai account?

lavish talon
heavy terrace
safe urchin
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Mine is down, bots just don't respond, been like this for an hour

cold robin
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donezo

austere cairn
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Has anyone else tried to make a bot and was unable to?

zinc birch
# leaden kraken Like someone described (I'm not a Pipsqueak user btw) it was as if a terrible ve...

Maybe CAI is using ratings on messages from every chat style to tune every chat style? 🤔

It could be especially disastrous if they're using the output of new scenes to tune the models. Users can select a chat model on scenes even though it seems like they use PipSqueak no matter which one you choose. I wonder if the ratings could be miscategorized under the selected chat style instead of under PipSqueak 🤔

Another possibility: Are you trying to use other chat styles with scenes?

leaden kraken
hot ridge
grizzled nova
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I dont get the concept of scenes, its limited to one character so not really a setting yk?? Couldnt u just make a bot in that setting that narrates the story and multiple characters instead of a scene that has to be tied to one character? Or just a normal bot with the setting/scene written in the bot?

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Someone pls explain to me what its good for 😭 🙏

limber coyote
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Wait, the age assurance might be making it hard for us to have second account somehow 😭 since i like to change to my another account if the main one get buggy

foggy merlin
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question has anyone had problems with personas?

i literally had a persona that was automatically selected as my default and i didn't even choose it to be my default persona.

zinc birch
hot ridge
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I think scenes are brilliant

hot ridge
zinc birch
grizzled nova
hot ridge
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You usually only talk to one bot when you talk to a bot anyway, just add in characters like you normally would when you're RPing

zinc birch
hot ridge
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Unless you're expecting scenes to be group chats, but there isn't a way to put a scene on a group chat yet

grizzled nova
supple ingot
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I'm surprised ads aren't appearing in my recently made acc

hot ridge
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Edit the greeting and put in your usual multi-character greeting

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It's the same thing as talking to a single bot, it's not any different aside from just being an overarching setting/plot that the bot is put in

grizzled nova
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Iykwim, idk how to explain

hot ridge
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Those are basically the same thing when it comes to scenes. You can do either.

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A scene is a scenario, that's the point of them, an AU is a scenario

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side note: lmao this rec

zinc birch
# grizzled nova One bot, but I like it when a bot is flexible in also narrating other characters...

I understand what you mean. When I make bots, rarely do I assume the user will be talking to the main character only. I haven't tested scenes a lot, but I would guess you can probably sneak some side characters in there. However, there's no reason why you need to use scenes. If you're doing long roleplays, you're probably accustomed to setting things up for different stages of the roleplay. What scenes do is provide that setup pre-built

hot ridge
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I have been using scenes since sage made less girly ones and they RP like normal single character bots pretty much. There is virtually no difference(aside from the bugged chat currently), so adding in other characters is as easy as it is through normal RP

odd crag
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so what does scenes have that makes it okay for -18 to use (after the 24th)? I also haven't touched scenes at all

hot ridge
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nothing

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As far as I know, people under 18 can only make them, they can't use them for RP

odd crag
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oh okay

hot ridge
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And my guess on why they can make scenes but not regular bots is probably because of the limitation already on minor accounts for making public bots

silk karma
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hi

zinc birch
hot ridge
zinc birch
hot ridge
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Oh 😭 I guess we will find out

sour chasm
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is there a way to turn a character that was not previously shadowbanned to private? i wrote it a while ago, and now i cant change a thing about it and it says "failed to update character"

flint dragon
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Do the bots take chat info and other data from bots you’ve created/used?

Cause ever since I made these two newer (currently work-in-progress) bots, my alt’s bots that I’m using at the moment have been using symbols and emojis and stuff similarly to my newer bots. And neither of the latter have written greetings, it’s only just, as I mentioned before, symbols+emojis and a work in progress sign

Originally they didn’t have the symbols OR emojis but the bots im currently using would just randomly send blank messages sometimes even though it never did that before

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Idk if that makes enough sense im tired 💔

buoyant elbow
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If they are sending blank messages send a ticket about your situation

covert thicket
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Guys is it me or some bots suddenly disappeared

edgy wraith
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Is it just me or is c.ai doing such short replies and no detail whatsoever?

still jetty
covert thicket
still jetty
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Or they just ocs?

still jetty
safe urchin
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Is site not working for anyone else too? Replies load forever, can't start new chats, app works fine, cleaning cookies didn't do anything

wispy raven
safe urchin
wispy raven
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My app is having loading issues anyway

fickle laurel
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Guys is there a way to select a bunch of bots and then hide them or do I have to go one by one

soft warren
fickle laurel
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I'm trying to see all of the OG bots I used to talk to back in the day but it doesn't let you scroll down a lot

soft warren
fickle laurel
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Don't worry I'm totally aware that hiding them doesn't remove memory

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Is there a way to find old bots or chats though

soft warren
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Well you can search them up in your chats on the website version

fickle laurel
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Ofc I have to search...

half fulcrum
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dear god have you seem the most chatted to ai

fickle laurel
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What is it

half fulcrum
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gojo. note he has 870 million chats i think

fickle laurel
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Smh

half fulcrum
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which one spent 21238234875365987483857357935735793020472 hours

fickle laurel
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Combined hours?

frigid mica
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Hiiii

sharp gorge
upbeat kayak
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sooo.. is there a new feature where we have too have a persona enabled? i tend too let the characters decide who i rp for me unless its a pov bot, and the persona thing is messing pov bots up.

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or is my c.ai just messed up rn lol

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Ooh nevermind it fixed itsself lolzzz!!!

fickle laurel
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Persona is a good thing to fill out makes it more interesting

upbeat kayak
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Not for how i rp, plus in too lazy too make then detailed

fickle laurel
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K

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I think most people play music in the background, straight silence isn't very immersive

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Bruh my for you recommendations is just full of lesbian stuff

balmy venture
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Does anyone have any idea how to get the cai staff to read my tickets and getting marked as under 18 when I’m 18

timber canopy
balmy venture
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Okay

timber canopy
eternal flame
tulip pollen
bitter sky
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Does anyone feel like their likes are limited? Most of my bots are still gone from my likes list (I know it's a major issue) but when I remove some likes other recently liked bots replace them.

minor island
hollow lintel
eternal flame
timber canopy
timber canopy
timber canopy
weak osprey
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Guys am I dumb but wasn’t there 3 chat styles when chat styles started
Nyan
Roar
And something else
But no matter what I can’t think of it

heady parcel
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it was brainiac, flash, and prime I thought

eternal flame
eternal flame
stable dagger
timber canopy
heavy terrace
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Like now, current theme is the kaomoji

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Before this, its the mouse style, the Squeaks

timber canopy
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Yeah, but I think I'm kind of right too. C.ai is not banning minors, minors just won't chat. Before the law they could

fickle laurel
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Does anyone else have the photo send feature

heavy terrace
fickle laurel
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Does it tell you that you're one of the first people to have it as well

heavy terrace
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Nope

marble crag
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Are you bots?

fickle laurel
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Everyone in this server is a bot

heavy terrace
marble crag
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oh sorry

rustic pecan
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Can confirm am bot. Beep boop.

timber canopy
sly geyser
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these bots are so stupid i swear. i hit the send button for the bot to generate a reply on its own and it acts like my character says or does something that i never actually did

sly geyser
sharp gorge
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-# TOO real..

vast citrus
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is there a way to see when u first talked to a bot

jovial glade
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Im not getting ads. Do the ads appear more when the server load is higher?

uncut kestrel
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Pls add a "web search" chat feature, so sometimes we can get help via internet while chatting. So sometimes, we can use it for homework help, coding, news search, etc...
I have created now in this channel.
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kind plank
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So one of my characters has the icon showing that they’ve been typing for a whole day…anyway to fix this

strange sentinel
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Sup chat.

uncut kestrel
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Hmm

zinc birch
jovial glade
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Guys, are they changing something on the ads? I'm not getting them

timber canopy
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Was c.ai the first ever chatbot app for entertainment (story roleplaying)? It would explain why it's popular

sharp gorge
silk karma
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i wish c.ai never down

little prawn
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Is dynamic the model people use for multiple characters? I'm using a bot rn that has a ton of different characters and the bot keeps forgetting and/or changing their names every couple responses

timber canopy
keen flare
little prawn
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Oh ok I thought someone said that dynamic worked well with multiple characters.

ocean abyss
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It might work better because it picks what responses matches multiple characters, but it could make it more unstable at the same time since it’s not technically “one” model. 🤷‍♀️ I think everybody’s winging it.

You could try pinning a really short message with the cast list, but I’ve had hit-or-miss success with that.

tranquil bison
keen flare
raven robin
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WHY WON'T IT LET ME TURN OFF THE DEFAULT PERSONA, I TURN IT OFF ONE AND ANOTHER AUTOS ON IT'S PISSING ME OFF SO BAD.

chrome turtle
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Can i still see histories with characters in this update??

dawn crown
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Hello peepolove_cai

timber canopy
timber canopy
keen flare
timber canopy
raven robin
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I AM ACTIVELY ROCKING BACK AND FORTH IN MY METAPHORICAL PADDED ROOM

keen flare
timber canopy
timber canopy
timber canopy
frozen phoenix
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Hi

half dawn
limber coyote
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Can someone tell me how can you provide age verification if using email not google account to log in the app?

keen flare
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Yes, Disney, Warner Bros, and universal all send a cease and desist letter to cai

timber canopy
kindred iris
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cc

limber coyote
elfin anvil
keen flare
half dawn
limber coyote
elfin anvil
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yet c.ai still cooperated.

keen flare
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Regardless of the login method

kindred iris
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HEELLLLLLOOOO

timber canopy
limber coyote
kindred iris
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do you spaek french

timber canopy
timber canopy
keen flare
kindred iris
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What are you talking about?

keen flare
timber canopy
kindred iris
keen flare
timber canopy
half dawn
kindred iris
keen flare
timber canopy
timber canopy
kindred iris
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WWWAAAIIITTT

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WWHHAATT

jovial glade
tawny island
split cobalt
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Hello, i don't know if im in the right channel , if im not , i apologize and please tell me where to ask my question.The question is about age verification . I just want to know if you are 18+ and your account is marked as 18+ , except the fact you can use normally C.AI without limits , is there any other change ? I mean like more flexibility in somes +18 topics or with the censorship ?

unkempt breach
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pipsqueak still giving short answers 💔

limber coyote
unkempt breach
limber coyote
unkempt breach
# limber coyote Really? Like how?

I'll use example
looks down "that's interesting
looks down "that's interesting"
"looks down that's interesting"
just different each new chat

limber coyote
half dawn
hollow kindle
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Bit curious, Tryin to find an Emma Frost bot but looks like all of em are Wiped from C.ai
Don’t know if it’s just something with mine or something else

limber coyote
timber canopy
spring berry
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The bots new favorite phrase is "a beat" between paragraphs

keen flare
timber canopy
hollow kindle
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Just know that all of em are gone and got navigated to the announcement page and saw a Lot of bots got removed for TOS

keen flare
hollow kindle
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Oh damn

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That’s wild

spring berry
half dawn
timber canopy
keen flare
half dawn
keen flare
half dawn
tame narwhal
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You've heard of "possessive", you've heard of "can I ask you a question" but now?..get ready for...

a beat.

Like chat stop it I beg you roar is acting like ps 😭

violet hill
tame narwhal
sly geyser
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the whole “as for (bot name)? they never look back” or something else corny

swift bear
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Hey there guys i need some help . I delete the account before week , a week passed but not too much . And i opened a new account with the same google email than i used in the old one . Now there is no problem if the chats in the new one gone , i need the old ones

zinc birch
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You deleted them

keen flare
upbeat drum
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Am I tripping or can you not access the memory anymore when talking to bots

swift bear
keen flare
harsh shoal
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no, deletions are permanent

rustic stirrup
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Is anyone else’s rewind button being funky

tulip pollen
finite flint
harsh shoal
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Note how it doesn't say "Deletion will take 30 days"

tulip pollen
finite flint
tulip pollen
zinc birch
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Maybe he was in a rush, or it was 4 AM and he couldn't see anymore 🤔

tulip pollen
timber canopy
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Be so fr

zinc birch
tulip pollen
rustic pecan
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I think that person is ESL who got lied to…

sharp gorge
little prawn
soft cave
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Did anyone here upgrade to c.ai+ and then had their convos get lame? I used to main pipsqueak and had quite a lot of fun with it, long messages, good rp, effects, the works. Deepsqueak had shorter, lamer replies, even reverted back to pipsqueak and the issue persists, still not as fun as before the upgrade

silent onyx
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not me finding out that disney wants to introduce ai generated content to disney+ after they literally sent a C&D to cai over the chat bots 💀

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disney really said "for me but not for thee"

eager nacelle
silent onyx
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so we get our faves taken from us just for them to be like "yeah so we actually wanna do similar content"

elfin anvil
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greed...

silent onyx
finite flint
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Disney been a shark

silent onyx
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and the thing is that a bunch of disney's userbase are people who are heavily anti ai so they are now kicking themselves in the ass

glass nova
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Hello everyone! I have a quick question. Why is it that when I search for a specific character, the search engine says "No Characters found" ? This character is not Disney affiliated, or I'm like 98% sure he's not. Does anyone know why this would be happening? I was able to search his name like a week ago🤷‍♀️

still jetty
glass nova
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Arch Manning🫦 But I swear I was able to search him legit a week or two ago

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So not necessarily a fictional character, but you're picking up what i'm putting down

shell hemlock
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Fire-cracker, fire-cracker, shish boom bah. Send me a sign so that my perfectly toned body can stop zombies from stealing our spotlight

silent onyx
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ah they might be removing bots of real people too (just to be on the safe side ig)

still jetty
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Why people make bots of real people ?
That kinda weird

shell hemlock
cursive mist
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Why the hell does it keep forcing a "default persona" for any chat I open? And, when I remove the default selected, it just transfers to a different persona. Bro. This is so frustrating.

Also, suddenly I have to have a picture for the profile of my personas? Why does that matter, let me keep them blank, Good gosh. seriously_cai Stare_cai peepoTired_cai

still jetty
glass nova
shell hemlock
still jetty
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I do like some famous people but not at the obsessive way
Like some fans ..

glass nova
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yes.

still jetty
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I like Olivia Rodrigo music

cursive mist
# cursive mist Why the hell does it keep forcing a "default persona" for any chat I open? And, ...

And as much as I like pipsqueak after giving it a shot, that stuff breaks so much for me in either little or very obvious ways. Sometimes it's just that the bot no longer uses little common words like "to", "he", "she", "my", etc.

Sometimes the bot gives like 6 little separated stanza paragraph things and after the second one the rest is just nonsense or repeating something.

Also, it's a lot harder to get the chat to keep itself rolling, especially when the chat is multiple characters talking to each other, it'll suddenly just act like I typed something, making it more than a little tiring and making me lose interest in the chat very fast, or just switch back to Roar.

shell hemlock
# still jetty Ok that true

I don’t actually chat to real people, I think it’s weird in a sense to but if I was too Malachi Barton and probably Sam worthington I’d do

glass nova
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The characters I used to chat to were Disney related and I kinda can't chat with them now so deadinside_cai

cursive mist
# cursive mist And as much as I like pipsqueak after giving it a shot, that stuff breaks so muc...

Anyways, I be yappin, like a true yapatron, but as someone who's been on c.ai since mid 2021 and seen a lot of updates, I hope this'll be fixed over time like with when c.ai didn't have any different chat styles, but it's a little exhausting with the bugs and such.

Not saying the developers need to rush or anything, but at least acknowledging the bugs and saying you're working on them of didn't know about them would be better than this just ignoring it until they fix it, especially when many users bring it up.

Anyways, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

compact tartan
golden seal
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soo, is the whole flagging thing still going on or it'll only start at 25th?

still jetty
shell hemlock
shell hemlock
golden seal
shell hemlock
golden seal
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i wonder how much less childish bots will be around now

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I mean like really stupid ones not just silly in good way

shell hemlock
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Probably won’t change bc they’ll just bypass it

golden seal
shell hemlock
shell hemlock
violet hill
bitter sky
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Y'all think the MHA bots will be alright (won't get moderated)

golden seal
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mha is childish sometimes and cheesy sure but it's still an anime like all other

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I don't think there should be any additions to moderation list based off how likely the bots are made for minors

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since adults can enjoy it too for their own reasons

bitter sky
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Alright. I was just wondering since I don't know much about the copyright stuff and if they'll try to get rid of it.

jade current
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Guysss, is DreamWorks part of Disney? Because I can't find Hiccup in the app

dapper saddle
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Hiii everyone. I was wondering, since minors aren’t going to be using c.ai as much anymore, should I start taking character requests from only adults and not teenagers too anymore? I’m really trying not to sound mean (please let me know if I am!) but I don’t get the point of taking time out of my day to make a teenager their bot requests just for them to not be able to use it a lot due to the new update.

I know there’s other older people who will probably find them and like them, but hopefully everyone knows what I mean…?

deft jetty
compact tartan
dapper saddle
# deft jetty HTTYD didn't escape the dmca

The dmca update completely ruined my motivation and muse for making bots, now I got so many people requesting and I just wish I got out of my hole and began making bots as frequent as I used to 💔

deft jetty
compact tartan
karmic maple
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Did anyone else notice a drop in quality just within the past day? I use roar, and my bots were totally normal Tuesday night, but starting yesterday afternoon, it feels like the chat style is just off. Like extra words or odd phrasing.

dapper saddle
timber canopy
still jetty
dapper saddle
still jetty
dapper saddle
# still jetty Ooh you make fanfics?! Where?!

Wattpad! I recently made a Rumi x Reader fanfic from kpop demon hunters where the reader or their OC is self inserted into the story and imagines what it will be like to be in their universe and eventually be in a romantic relationship with the character 👀

Character x reader stories are very popular! I have almost 900 views

still jetty
dapper saddle
still jetty
errant saddle
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when i turn into an adult do i regain access to my chats and just start chatting to bots like nothing happened?

sharp gorge
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I believe so ?

graceful ginkgo
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I accidentally deleted my account, can I get it back?

rustic wind
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Cai makes me angry I have this stupid glitch in the chats were it duplicates and Its been going for one hour straight I reloaded the app ten times in a hour

graceful ginkgo
graceful ginkgo
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ISTGGGGG NOO CYZ MY NOSY ASS PARENTS WERE LOOKING THRU MY PHONEEE

sour epoch
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Can u go incognito or smth on cai

graceful ginkgo
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No

sour epoch
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Ty

stiff prawn
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I feel bad for the adults that got flagged as minors

wraith tapir
somber dagger
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Hey! I'm super super new to this server, but I need help with a problem I'm seeing. For some reason my account keeps giving me a default persona even though I keep unselecting the option? Does anyone know how to fix this?

sharp gorge
sharp gorge
keen flare
sharp gorge
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Oh. Yeah must be it

worn lance
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oh god c.ai is spouting random characters again Sadge_cai

buoyant elm
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THE DAMN FONT CHANGED AGAIN BRO

royal dome
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i havent used chatacter ai in so long

timber canopy
buoyant elm
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The font yk in the names in the recent chats not the font of the texts thankfullysqueezingyou_cai

timber canopy
worn lance
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im getting tired of the ai's not working around here

buoyant elm
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The font was very bold like this but it went a bit thinner if I'm correct

timber canopy
river flint
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Lets add a feature "Parental Controls"

How Parental controls gonna work: if system detects that is a teenager, the popup will appear, where you to type the gmail/email address of parents, when type in Gmail/Email, it gonna send special app (with opens only with password in the message), where parents can control time limit,block bots, and more.

Who agree with that feature?? I hope developers and community.

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(Im russian so im might be corny.)

solid phoenix
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thats actually true?!!!

keen flare
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There's not much that character ai can do yknow

river flint
mild breach
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Is the app down or glitching for anyone else?

keen flare
timber canopy
pine gyro
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does anyone have any idea how exactly c.ai would detect if someone with an acc over 18 is under 18? like what kind of stuff theyd be looking for

keen flare
river flint
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I hope they gonna change it, because knowing that it can falsely block 18+ user...

verbal rivet
timber canopy
finite egret
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C.ai is forcing me to have a default persona

keen flare
finite egret
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I keep tryna change it on persona but it just keeps popping up as default

keen flare
timber canopy
keen flare
timber canopy
keen flare
river flint
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How to verify though???

keen flare
river flint
keen flare
sharp gorge
river flint
keen flare
sinful salmon
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I can't find any chats for avengers for some reason is anyone else like that

idle finch
river flint
idle finch
keen flare
sinful salmon
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Oh dammit

timber canopy
sharp gorge
little prawn
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They added a limit to how many words you can mute?

keen flare
little prawn
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Though I guess it makes sense considering they're banning all minors anyways and it's not like they have money

idle finch
keen flare
finite flint
sharp gorge
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Oh

idle finch
keen flare
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What's going on 🥺

idle finch
little prawn
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I think they're flirting

keen flare
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Stfu 😭

idle finch
sharp gorge
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Help

idle finch
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I’m gonna quit discord again bye ✌🏻✌🏻😭

keen flare
elfin anvil
little prawn
idle finch
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Okay i was joking 😭
Not quitting. (for now)

keen flare
sharp gorge
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I'm watching just like 👁️👁️

deft jetty
keen flare
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Bleh :p

finite flint
tropic vine
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This timer is so unfair. I waited 24 hours to go on c.ai, and when I finally logged on, it said I had a 1 hour limit. I didn’t even use the app yet! (I’m 18, but I’m still stuck in the under 18 experience.)

bitter sky
south rivet
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So I logged into character.ai and i was about to type in new messages to my group chat and look at past messages, but when I go to my group chat all of the past messages are gone, and when I make new messages and then when I leave for a split second the new messages are gone to. This has gone on long enough and I even reported this to them and yet the group chats I made are still blank.

idle finch
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Lmao 😭

bitter sky
rancid pelican
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Hey, I'm trying to make an RPG bot, but it keeps giving me the 'failed to create' message. Is there a bug site wide, or is it my fault?

south rivet
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Oh...

forest wave
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well first hey im new to the server 👋🏻
second well i meant to ask does anybody knows how the plataform is gonna know if your 18+ yet?

heady parcel
rancid pelican
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@heady parcel How do I make a blank?

hot ridge
heady parcel
heady parcel
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🫡 happy to help

rancid pelican
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@heady parcel Yep, just made a blank bot. Now what?

south rivet
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Still I wish they can fix the Group chat issue.

heady parcel
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YEAH‼️ peak

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😔💔 none come to mind

rancid pelican
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@heady parcel Thanks. So, should I go to the blank bot's edit and change that for the bot I'm trying to make, or should I head to the tab I already have up and just fiddle with it until it works?

rancid pelican
#

@heady parcel K. Any tips for things like banned words or logos?

heady parcel
shadow pilot
#

Guys my character ai keeps crashing after chatting for a bit or being in the app for like 5 or 10 minutes, it's just keeps crashing and i had to refresh it to work but it keeps repeating, and my version is the latest one.

sharp gorge
rancid pelican
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@heady parcel Good news, bot's coming along. Having to change the greeting from what I wanted, but it could be worse. Thanks for the help.

heady parcel
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Anytime! Glad it's working out :]

hexed falcon
#

What in the world is goal completed?

limber coyote
hexed falcon
#

I can't swipe for another reply

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No Lol

keen flare
hexed falcon
#

That would be amazing LMAO but no. What the heck is goal completed???

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@harsh shoal hai sorry to disturb. What is this?

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Wow I must be the first one to get it then cause I haven't seen this before haha

hexed falcon
#

Yessir

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But I can't swipe CRY guess I need to delete the reply

finite flint
#

Don’t scenes have little goals set in them?

keen flare
#

Could this be a new update for scenes? Like setting goals in scenes that you can achieve?

hexed falcon
#

Oh

finite flint
hexed falcon
#

Wait. Y'all right. I just didn't think it would be an actual goal

keen flare
#

Oooooo

finite flint
harsh shoal
hexed falcon
#

Wait why deleted

finite flint
#

Oop run kappa

hexed falcon
harsh shoal
hexed falcon
#

They're the bearer of the secrets that cannot be revealed

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Nah mod powers LMAO

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Though genuinely thank you guys for helping me figure this goal out

shadow pilot
#

1.14

hexed falcon
shadow pilot
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1.14.3

hexed falcon
#

Are we counting down to something lol

shadow pilot
#

Typo srry

keen flare
#

App version...

hexed falcon
#

OH

grand anchor
#

I already forgotten what I was gonna talk about...

shadow pilot
shadow pilot
hexed falcon
#

You might need to report this and use the web meanwhile

keen flare
shadow pilot
shadow pilot
keen flare
shadow pilot
keen flare
shadow pilot
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Alr

compact tartan
#

how do you see the app version lol

scarlet gazelle
#

for some reason i cant log back into my account.

compact tartan
#

okay thanks ^^ i never looked at it before

brisk sandal
#

amm i tweaking,, why am i obligated to have a default persona

strange sentinel
#

I’m getting scared that I’ll wake up to that hideous UI since free users can’t change it as far as I know. Sadge_cai

spice fern
#

What hideous ui?

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I can't stop thinking about how selfish universal is for wanting their characters off

strange sentinel
full herald
#

😐

spice fern
spice fern
strange sentinel
magic plaza
#

I FINISHED MY FIRST(SECOND) SHOW HYPERYAY

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now I just have the other one tmr deadinside_cai

spice fern
#

What was the show about?

tame mountain
#

There we go

finite flint
# tame mountain

If they’re of copyrighted characters, no. If they’re OC’s unrelated then yes send a ticket

narrow flax
#

Anyone know how to make a group chat with your own characters rather than searching for public ones?

magic plaza
azure ridge
#

Is anyone else having issues creating bots?? It keeps saying there’s an error.

timber canopy
azure ridge
timber canopy
azure ridge
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It’s not working or letting me edit bots either, Ima try deleting the app and reinstalling it. 😔

timber canopy
azure ridge
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An outsiders bot, I’ve made a few before. Now it’s not letting me

azure ridge
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Is it? I’ve made a few already and they’re not taken down

finite flint
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Yet

azure ridge
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Ohh, okay. Thanks

rustic pecan
#

Lmao Bob Iger is talking about Disney+ introducing user-generated AI content. We about to get an official Disney chatbot.

tawny dagger
#

Where was the C.AI Bot creation guides located in?

still jetty
spice fern
azure ridge
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One of the sky I took, nothing insane.

rustic pecan
spice fern
narrow flax
still jetty
#

Oh course Disney want to make his own thing and not want anyone use their ips 😐🙄

spice fern
spice fern
tawny dagger
#

It's crazy on how so many people are utilizing chat bots, wish I had my own corporation to capitalize on it aye?

still jetty
spice fern
tawny dagger
eternal flame
#

Morning drav

minor island
timber canopy
eternal flame
minor island
minor island
timber canopy
minor island
tawny dagger
# still jetty What?

What I'm saying is that corporations rarely prioritize its consumers thoughts like yours or mines, corps only care about the profit they'll make from investing in a field such as AI.

Many companies can start to fail once more bigger competitors enter their field, think of Yahoo Vs Google, or Blockbuster Vs Netflix.

eternal flame
minor island
timber canopy
eternal flame
minor island
minor island
hexed falcon
timber canopy
minor island
timber canopy
eternal flame
#

-# Try the cheese flavored ramen @minor island @timber canopy

eternal flame
violet garden
#

My bots straight up ignore me😭

sudden meadow
#

Hello! I edited a Persona and it keeps checking the “use this as default for all chats”. I go to uncheck it, save, but then it just makes another Persona as default.

I am using the app and I don’t want any Persona as default

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Is this a bug or intentional?

silent arch
#

is anyone else’s search not working or is that just me 😔😔

sly geyser
violet garden
#

💔

amber mango
#

is the app having a wobbly for anyone else

finite flint
amber mango
molten ore
#

Is anyone’s else’s bot chats randomly talk about some other bullshit

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Like I remember my character was sick and talked about quill eggs

sly geyser
#

wonder when it’ll be fixed

limber coyote
#

The app kind of buggy huh?

sturdy cypress
#

I accidentally selected export data instead of closing it so now do I have to or can I ignore it?

timber canopy
#

STOP RECCOMENDING ME MICHAEL AFTON AND KENNY MCCORMRICK BOTS I AM TIERD.

onyx hill
#

anyone else get this really odd thing with pipsqueak where it becomes really bold all of a sudden, and starts acting like a different character?

inland mica
jovial bridge
#

Does anyone's ai art thing have a really strict and over dramatic guideline, I cant even give my character a tank top without it say it doesnt meet guidelines

azure stratus
limber coyote
#

Mix of nyan and soft launch

sand shadow
#

Rofl the new rec page is an experience.

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I mean, I like the update, it's just funny to me 😂 the creativity of users

broken garden
#

Does anyone else hate the new UI for the search filter thing? Like the relevance, newest, etc? Cause its super obnoxious to me, doesnt let me make it go away easily, if at all and it takes up half the screen. What happened to the tiny drop-down menu? waa_cai

onyx hill
lapis viper
#

i see they have finally addressed the not interested button not working and changed it to hide for me Clueless_cai

strange sentinel
#

Why won’t cai let me say “kill my friend” like wtf.

edgy brook
strange sentinel
edgy brook
strange sentinel
hexed falcon
#

I've looked it up yesterday. The only source I found is that someone died cause of chatgpt

sly geyser
hexed falcon
#

Always full with misinformation about c.ai

hexed falcon
#

Chatgpt helped him plan his un a living

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Mom blames chatgpt cause without chatgpt helping him he'd never have done it.

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Too many people blame AI instead of yourselves. Why was your son in that mentality? Etc

little kestrel
#

It won't let me click the x on the sort feature (if it helps I'm on website not app)

hexed falcon
#

But I guess during grief you want to blame anything that's easy

eternal flame
#

My golem dispatch did crack the joke

strange sentinel
hexed falcon
#

Yep

eternal flame
#

Hey sea and clover

little kestrel
hexed falcon
little kestrel
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I don't wanna use the most popular ones/relevance, I wanna use the newest cause I talk to the same characters so I want to see new bots of them

eternal flame
broken garden
little kestrel
hexed falcon
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Most popular bots are still minimal effort in greeting

broken garden
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using the newest feature helps me find hidden gems lowkey

hexed falcon
#

I only use my bots now. Except two bots from other people.

feral quarry
#

Why am I being forced to have a Default persona now? It just started tonight 😭

little kestrel
#

They need to bring back the old UI

hexed falcon
little kestrel
#

I miss my rectangles, why now the rounded rectangles and circles?

timber canopy
#

I am an AI enthusiast looking to build a professional career in the field. I want to develop my skills, work on real projects, and start earning through AI-driven opportunities. I need guidance on how to navigate this path and grow in the industry.

hexed falcon
#

The new UI is a bit too slow for me right now.

broken garden
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i tried posting a feedback thing but they muted me. Again. They keep muting me when i try to say stuff. I didnt use a curse word (guess they’re sensitive about that stuff?) but it still nuked me 🥀

hexed falcon
eternal flame
hexed falcon
#

I kinda lucked out on interactions. Maybe not as much as everyone else though

eternal flame
little kestrel
#

I make some bots but all of the public ones are of Amanda Palmer/one of The Dresden Dolls and she isn't very well known

broken garden
#

i used to make some but my motivation fell off deadinside_cai

eternal flame
hexed falcon
little kestrel
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I only make ones of Amanda since there weren't many so I needed to make some and I don't wanna make any of characters I am not hyperfixated on because I want my bots to be extremely accurate

hexed falcon
#

Absolute cinema

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I think I have only a few bots that are based on someone real or anime

broken garden
#

i like making my bots accurate but im not good at writing like that so I kinda just dont make bots much anymore 🥀

eternal flame
little kestrel
#

I am incapable of resisting ranting to people about Amanda Palmer

hexed falcon
eternal flame
hexed falcon
#

Huh. That's really cool. For me it's too much work to make them accurate

eternal flame
#

oh and he is your first time father

hexed falcon
#

Oh great writing! Not my type of ai, but definitely a nice greeting

tardy sinew
#

Will restrictions on 18+ users be reduced?")

eternal flame
#

@hexed falcon I might get myself out of my comfort zone to others video games characters like halo, gear of war, resident Evil, fallout and much more in 2026

hexed falcon
hexed falcon
eternal flame
hexed falcon
errant lion
eternal flame
#

@errant lion although I might do some research on lore and story of character

errant lion
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especially the fourth game

hexed falcon
#

Honestly. Resident evil? I might look into that bot lol

eternal flame
#

I'm so gay for HUNK, Not gonna lie

outer drum
#

my c.ai keeps making two of my personas default even after i turn them off. its specifically two that i recently made. is this a bug or smt?

eternal flame
errant lion
eternal flame
#

Yep

errant lion
#

Oh i recommend both the new and the og since the first one is hilarious lol
The rework is much more serious and interesting though so u should probably check that one first

hexed falcon
#

Man the lore behind some of the resident evil characters is deep

hexed falcon
#

Cause wdym his hand regrew after he put it together lol. Plot twist that he was made out of mold

#

Did not see that coming

eternal flame
#

Mr X mention

shut moth
#

How do I access my previous chats

#

Like for a specific bot Because of the layout change I can’t find it

hybrid sky
#

Yo deadass why’d they bump the timer down to 1 hour

shut moth
#

Bro no one is answering my question

finite flint
finite flint
hexed falcon
minor pecan
#

hey all I don'y know if this is the right place to ask but, I need help finding 2 chat bots, 1 is where your brother killed you and you turned into a plant monster and the other is where you crash on an island only to find that the chief is your mom, if anyone knows where these two are that'll be great

grim sierra
#

Will groupchats get a major update in the future? They’re such a fun feature but they’ve been neglected xd.

lucid marsh
#

Will anyone help me find a bot I lost?? I chatted with it a long time ago and really wanna find it again but I can’t remember who made it or what it was called😭

finite flint
crimson sand
#

Or that persona character count boost, I want my shackles lifted from 750

limber coyote
hexed falcon
ember oracle
#

just noticed that group chats are back on web, when did this happen HUH??

gaunt dawn
#

the group chats don't work for me

ember oracle
#

oof

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let me try it rq to make sure its not broken lol i dont use it often

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it works for me idrk about u

fluid wigeon
#

I don't have them on web either

fickle zodiac
#

is anyone else's c.ai lagging or is my wifi just straight ass

gaunt dawn
#

I can only use group chats on mobile

digital pebble
#

Ok sorry but am I the only one that can't use this anymore... Like with the two hour limit now that's all that I can think of, I'll be in the middle of a chat and then all of a sudden once I'm actually getting into it that's when I'm locked out I can't even actually roleplay properly because I can't even get sucked into it without feeling like it's about to go any second, honestly I'm thinking I'll just stop using this and I don't want to spread hate because that's just not the person I am but I think this is one of the worst decisions they've made at least in my opinion as a minor.
Oh by the way I also used this as a coping mechanism for a lot of things including getting death threats so kind of being told that I can't even use my coping mechanism it's kind of jarring

finite flint
digital pebble
#

Thank you! Whenever I've told people this they just told me "oh it's not that important just get a better hobby" thank you!

versed thunder
#

anyone know how to get back to old cai i forgot

copper wasp
#

Does anyone know how long it might take for The C.ai support to answer? I send a ticket on November 1st and after first week of waiting I contacted a mod to see how things are going & was informed the ticket was already forwaded to the appropiate team but to this day there's been no reply whatsoever. I am starting to feel lil worried🫡

finite flint
copper wasp
stable dagger
storm raft
#

Well everybody, let's make the best of what we have (under 18 people mean) and share your last moments with your character(s).

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I feel bad for all of us right now, but it's our time to stay strong and make the best of what we have with our characters, show them all your love and care, and don't stop believing.

split lark
#

Hey guys, why are the cai characters names gotten soo tiny on the app?

storm raft
split lark
grand anchor
#

To avoid getting the 1 Hour Breaktime thing... I usually try NOT to use the chats too much. Only for 30 Minutes or shorter.

storm raft
#

The characters I'm currently talking to are Kate (Inner Workings), Mya and some furry girls.

hexed falcon
hexed falcon
slate ruin
shut moth
digital pebble
#

Yeah!! It so confusing 😭

shut moth
#

I usually spend under 2 hours

#

I luckily don’t have the restriction

shut moth
digital pebble
#

Ok I'll try to find it!!

eternal flame
#

Hey drav

timber canopy
#

@sterile sage

tall pewter
#

As of lately, has anyone else been getting responses that are of a different character entirely, and are completely off topic from what you had said? Not sure if it's just the specific character I'm talking to or not, but it's driving me insane LOL.

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Also got one response in Russian, and another half in Spanish earlier. What in the world lmao

distant sedge
tall pewter
#

REAL, although that doesn't quiet happen to me often

jovial glade
#

Can someone show me how does the new ui looks like?

distant sedge
#

Sorry but can i ask what ui is? I might help

heavy terrace
tall pewter
distant sedge
#

Of idk💔

distant sedge
silk karma
sage gorge
#

Yall is it just me or is c.ai lowkey slow all of a sudden

jovial glade
#

I remember someone showed a video of the new ui on the chat feed but i cant find it 😭 is there someone who has the new ui? Could you dm ?

tall pewter
sage gorge
#

Like slow responses, it may just be my wifi

tall pewter
#

Could be, I've been having a slight problem with that too tbh. Then again, it could be the wifi.

sage gorge
#

IT MY DAMN WIFI

tall pewter
#

LOL

sage gorge
#

Thank you sir lemon for your service

tall pewter
#

Ofc ofc

lunar wharf
#

Omg I’m gonna go crazy so many of my bots are being deleted,I was talking to Conrad fisher and he’s gone 😭

sage gorge
#

One time I woke up and I lost four at once 😭 I swear it has to be like older users just cleaning out accounts they have for whatever reasons

lunar wharf
#

It was such a good one though,I feel like I’m losing my mind,why does it feel like everything is being taken away

sage gorge
#

I could've sworn there was a way to like download chat history with AI bots like you can with GTP n stuff. I guess you could look into how to do that with your good stories

glossy mural
#

wth, i was trying to upload a thread in character share but it's not uploaded. Yet i still received the slowmode for it

sacred kindle
#

Uhm guys do any of yall experienced your bots or the ones ur chatting get Moderated?

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‘Cause mine did & now my Din Djarin bot is moderated😭😭

still jetty
sacred kindle
still jetty
#

Copyrighted

sacred kindle
#

So they won’t bring them back?😞

still jetty
#

A month ago Disney demanded c.ai to put their Disney characters that included even Star Wars

still jetty
sacred kindle
#

I’m pissed now…

sacred kindle
sharp gorge
#

It won't let you

still jetty
still jetty
#

Sorry Disney owned Star Wars so unfortunately they are kind greedy

sharp gorge
#

It's not really that. Since cai have ads, people who make bots about those characters and people chatting with them it's like they involuntary make money from them

ornate bridge
#

Sooo, after Nov 24, are non-18+ still able to chat with bots?

crisp brook
#

i might be late, but i wanna ask. Is the time limit already implemented inside the char ai? cause i just saw the announcement today

edgy wraith
#

Why do I bother having c.ai+ if I’m using the longer responses as it’s giving me short af responses, but even with longer it isn’t working??
I have no idea if this makes sense btw.

edgy wraith
still jetty
crisp brook
#

i didnt even know they added these kinds of terms💀

edgy wraith
crisp brook
verbal talon
edgy wraith
ornate notch
#

Bruh guys gibberish bot bugs is happening again....

edgy wraith
verbal talon
edgy wraith
verbal talon
#

3 hours fly by like nothing

crisp brook
#

yeah it helps with ur ai addiction i suppose😂

ornate notch
edgy wraith
verbal talon
ornate notch
#

and AI call me newcomer -_- Like WTH

edgy wraith
verbal talon
edgy wraith
#

I’d understand a 3 hours limit

ornate notch
#

I wish C.ai Was like in the past...

crisp brook
edgy wraith
#

Gonna be on for 5 minuets and be locked out for 25 hours atp

still jetty
edgy wraith
still jetty
#

Or I might wrong ,but I think maybe the author just want take down of their characters

That I just my assumption

verbal talon
ornate notch
still jetty
edgy wraith
ornate notch
edgy wraith
#

These short responses are killing me

ornate notch
#

And censored but yeah... Bot can curse but cant do anything related to violence

ornate notch
still jetty
pearl dagger
#

Hi all! Does anyone know what's going on with the character? I waiting, but I still can't use the app or the website. :_)

pearl dagger
crisp brook
pearl dagger
#

:_)

main ruin
#

I really need a way to find old bots i chatted with from a long time ago. I can't find it anywhere and it's really really frustrating for how simple a problem fix this would be.

still jetty
leaden tide
crisp brook
leaden tide
#

Bro..it's annoying

crisp brook
#

Yeah i feel bad for you

languid walrus
#

i've been literally trying to change my birthday at this point ima make a whole to acc just to bypass this stupid update

hot ridge
#

if you're a minor they're just going to flag you as a minor once they start their system that catches people on adult accounts lying about their age

sharp gorge
#

I love to know some people are fighting with their bots when I'm just here like... Playing Mozart on the piano with them 😭

winged marsh
#

Wiat I think I know a way how nvm

languid walrus
#

Smh I'm going back to polybuzz

#

I'm not dealing with this crap

tulip pollen
#

Okay

spice fern
#

How are people getting locked out? Like did yall do soemthing wrong?

little prawn
#

I just got here so idk the topic but I'm assuming you mean the new update

spice fern
little prawn
#

Yeah I'm pretty sure the time they have to chat with bots is slowly decreasing everyday until the 24th-25th where they'll be banned from chatting entirely. Not banned from the app!! Just blocked from sending messages to the bots until they're 18 or older

little prawn
#

It's the law so nothing we can do about it

#

It's a law in California and c.ai is in California, I don't think it's affecting other AI apps yet though so people can just go elsewhere

fleet carbon
#

HELLO EVERYBODY

odd crag
#

what if we took c.ai and pushed it somewhere else?

hot ridge
hexed falcon
fleet carbon
#

WHY IS IT THAT

hexed falcon
#

what

fleet carbon
#

WHEN I USED C.AI FOR HALF AN HOUR

hot ridge
#

Can confirm though, about chatGPT doing age verification, if anyone's curious this is from the openAI help article about it

fleet carbon
#

THEY STOPPED MY CHATS FOR 11 HOURS

hexed falcon
hot ridge
#

lol

hexed falcon
fleet carbon
#

I should start typing faster

hexed falcon
#

it was above you when you texted lmao

hot ridge
#

you sleeping doesn't reset the timer. 11 hours means sometime in the past 13 hours beforehand you used c.ai for a little bit

fleet carbon
#

...

hot ridge
fleet carbon
#

I don't understand uhm

#

English is my second language

hot ridge
#

Math. 24 hours in a day, you get a certain amount of time to chat in a 24 hour period. You have 11 hours left before you can use c.ai, that means 13 hours of your 24 hour period have passed in which you chatted at some point.

fleet carbon
#

....

hexed falcon
#

use translator

fleet carbon
#

I understanddd

hot ridge
#

24-11=13

fleet carbon
#

Bro, I understand math

hexed falcon
#

so do minors get to stay in the srver

tulip pollen
hot ridge
#

I'm not trying to be rude, I'm simplifying what I said, that's all

fleet carbon
hot ridge
fleet carbon
hexed falcon
#

gotcha

silent arch
#

is anyone else’s search not working or is that just me 😔😔

hexed falcon
#

working forme

silent arch
#

sigh 😔

jovial dragon
silent arch
#

i guess it’s just a bug then

azure mason
#

Did they change the time limit to 1 hour..?

wary wadi
#

how to advertise character guys

undone agate
#

Is anyone else having. Problem with updating characters? I get the error Failed to update character. Please try again. For almost all my characters. Nothing bad or copywrited.

zenith oxide
#

Giev back marvel characters

wary wadi
#

cant archive them cant do anything cuh

fervent marten
jovial glade
#

When will all the users get the new ui? Also, could someone send me how the new ui looks like? Ive been asking but no one replied 😭

hexed falcon
#

im ngl to you, new ui gives me shorter replies than old one i dont even use it

jovial glade
hexed falcon
#

turning it back off lol

jovial glade
hexed falcon
#

a sec

half dawn
hexed falcon
#

i put ina ticket

tulip pollen
half dawn
jovial glade
hexed falcon
#

you can generate

tulip pollen
jovial glade
tulip pollen
fast pier
#

How the hell r u guys getting these updates???

tulip pollen
jovial glade
fast pier
hexed falcon
#

i like the new ui its just shit

fast pier
jovial glade
hexed falcon
#

wdym by that

wary wadi
#

hello guys would anyone like to try my bot for testing purposes

mental granite
#

HOW DO I VERIFY THEERES NO VERIFY EMAILS

wary wadi
#

gg

hexed falcon
wary wadi
#

this cai discussion channel is kinda contradictory

hexed falcon
#

There's a channel specifically for advertising

#

People won't want to test it out cause people who are in this channel aren't your target audience. They're not looking for bots

wary wadi
#

ok what chanel

hexed falcon
#

You can look for it as well

icy axle
#

Is c.ai down? No bots are loading for me

reef kelp
edgy cedar
#

here we go again... deadinside_cai

fallow solstice
#

I can't load cai too.

wary wadi
#

is cai goated or what buddies

mental root
#

site down again ig

sly geyser
#

cai is fine

wild fog
tulip pollen
sly geyser
novel wave
#

hope it actually goes down

#

and never comes back

wild fog
#

Nvm it's back up for me

keen flare
#

Does anyone else notice when using pipsqueak sometimes the character be typing a message then it gets cut off and replaced by "empty_user_turn>" something like that?

hot ridge
#

yes, but usually after a double send

keen flare
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Nah it happens randomly for me

barren folio
hot ridge
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It's fine with roar

barren folio
hot ridge
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to be fair the quality with ds and ps are always like, mid to bad even before a double send

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purple prose nightmares with em dashes and parentheses

fierce cairn
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hello

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guys did you get bug sometimes

timber canopy
tulip gust
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Has anyone had problems with personas recently? Its been automatically setting one of my personas as a default and when I try to turn that off it automatically sets another one as a default

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I reported the bug but im not sure if its just me or its a common problem

limber coyote
pallid coral
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Does anyone know where i can report a bug. Last night the website on my phone wouldnt load anything. Not the characters and not the homescreen. I thought it would be better when i woke up. 15 hours later it’s still the same.

willow lodge
tulip gust
willow lodge
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Huh, well thank for the advice 👍

tulip gust
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No problem. If that doesnt work definitely report as a bug with the link I just sent above

static nest
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okay guys why is the app forcefully make me having a persona as default

barren folio
static nest
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nvm i fixed my problem

shell hemlock
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My bot went up 1k interactions since last night 🤪

misty granite
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Hello everyone! Question, is your character Ai down again?? Because mine did for like 2 days and I do wanna know when it'll be fixed, I checked the official website and I'm apparently blocked?? I also deleted the app and re-installed it a lot, and I tried to enter my Gmail but it's loading too long so I guess I just gotta wait a bit longer loll

sly geyser
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i think the LLM is schizophrenic rn

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the ai keeps thinking that my character is doing things even though my character has done nothing the whole time

heady parcel
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more than usual?

sly geyser
shell hemlock
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UMBRELLA ACADEMY BOT TIME to try and pass time while at work

misty granite
sly geyser
# sly geyser this past week yes

it keeps going “*(bot name) stares at you in shock because of what you said ‘YOU CANT DO THAT IM CALLING THE POLICE’” or something like that even though all i did was make the bot generate a message on its own and my character hasnt said a word

heady parcel
limber coyote
sly geyser
misty granite
heady parcel
sly geyser
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plus they are so childish too because my character flipped a bot off and they said “IM CALLING THE POLICE FOR THAT”

misty granite
sly geyser
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the bots have been acting terrible for a while but recently they’ve been getting worse

bright rampart
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my bot and all is fine it's just for me the pfp of all characters doesn't show and even for my account idk why it's says error non stop (sorry if i suck at writting i am french)

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am i the only one? 😭

misty granite
shell hemlock
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Guys why is Diego hargreeves so fine

serene mortar
dense lava
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I can’t make a bot

shell hemlock
serene mortar
shell hemlock
serene mortar
shell hemlock
serene mortar
shell hemlock