#šļø±cai-discussion
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CHICKEN JOCKEY
goddamn š
You do not understand childrenās mind these days
Iāve been sent death threats by a five year old
ripp
First time?
No
We just have to wait and see. If Discord truly ends badly, we have no choice but to go on another app similar to it.
It was rhetorical, but sure
š???
eh i doubt theyll change it drastically.
5 year olds????
DO NOT TRUST THEM
There's some stuff about it on Reddit. Just search 'Discord new CEO' or something like that. Should be some posts about it and people are afraid of Discord's future.
guilded requires a roblox account
I'm so sorry, I'm cackling at the thought of a tiny five year old typing up threats ššš
oh gosh okay hang ob
And Discord might go public under his supervision
Bruh..y'know you're right 
Discord battle pass is gonna be sick
Hell naw
I think cai is trying to break up with me bc it really does not wanna send me responses š
AUGHHHHH
Don't have to tell me twice 
IS THIS MY BREAK UP ARC??
:0
App or site
App lmao
Do u get a bday popup when you open it
No?
Oh ight thank god
It's coming up normally but I keep having to restart the app to get a goddamn response š
it's relevant because it stops users who havent put their bday in from sending messages on the app, so that's why he asked
Slow server maybe?
Ohhhhh
When did you become paragraph guy 
Maybe!! I'll probably just sleep, and hope it's better tomorrow š
After he's had to tell people multiple times that if their app ain't working it's probably their birthday issue 
Gotta love paragraph guy
Anyone here watch Smii7y?
it was hardly a pargraph
Bro..Clock just tried to rizz me up-
Did it work?
Uhh- yeah- (Me X Clock lol-)
seriously I don't know what to do anymore, it's been 20 days since this issue started for me
what issue
Itās down innit?
no
Chat getting cut off and the bots making no sense
Guess it just logged me out for no
Reason
You can always try sending a ticket:
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new
Maybe write down your device name (like Samsung Galaxy smth smth), OS version (Android 14 or smth), and app version (check it on the About page on your cai app) as well. Might help the team to fix the bug the more info they get.
Bots making no sense has been an off and on bug for a while, as for your chat getting cut off I recommend looking into Jill's advice because that shouldn't really be happening unless it's becoming a bigger bug.
A bot once told me 13 years old is 3 whole years after 12
What are you dosing your bots with
Bots are not good with math.
I am on PC not on an app
My bot turned Japanese once out of nowhere, it just happens with AI. It's been an ongoing bug where they suddenly stop making sense, I'm pretty sure the team knows about it.
sure. Just write down your issue, then.
Mf turned into a samurai
Pretty much 
How they're literal ai
AI that copies off of human behavior
Humans are good at math
Not all humans
More than half of the actual population excluding childrens who dont have the opportunity to go to school out there
AI learns from the behavior of humans, and it kinda mimics it. Keep in mind, it's the general group of people that they learn from, not just from one person. So it takes the mass majority and learns to mimic and make it feel more real.
The algorithm tries to make a statistical guess about what words seem likely to come next, so if the context suggests they may be japanese, they'll be japanese. Is it that kind of problem, or something worse? š¤
Soo from every single chats it had?
Not all AI/LLM are good with logic and reasoning. Some are better for Roleplaying purpose, some for creative writing, some for complete logic/ reasoning stuffs.
And c.ai's LLM just happens to fall into the RP category most likely. It's probably trained more with roleplaying material moreso than logic/reasoning stuffs like other LLM like chatGPT's. Even chatGPT doesn't always give a perfect math/ coding answer.
I have the same issue
Think of Evie bot (if any of you remember that bot), she learned to talk like a human based on how humans spoke to her. And over time, her entire personality changed because of it. AI makes mistakes, no amount of coding can make it perfect
No idea who evie is but bet
What's funny is that there was nothing about Japan in that roleplay, it was a HUGEEE bug that was fixed a day later, I don't know what happened but I got a really good laugh out of it
Soo it just grabs info and how the person responds and copies it?
Pretty much, again, mass majority of people so this is mimicking most behaviors people give it
Hi
So it sucks at math just because of roleplaying
They must suck at math
It's just that it's not trained intensively for math.
Kind of forgets math with the roleplaying?
-# that's why you shouldn't use cai for your homework guys
not what I'm saying
Is anyone having issues with their bots at the moment? Such as the paragraphs being longer even not in Nyan mode?
I wouldn't say that's an issue unless it's dragging a topic for no reason
The machines that run the AI can do math, but the algorithm isn't engineered to directly use the hardware to perform correct math operations. Instead, it uses a messy statistical process to guess what words might come next
What about helper bots
Literally just a bunch of tangled wires that somehow function correctly?
That doesn't necessarily mean anything, people make "Helper" bots all the time but it's never going to guarantee the help you want it to give you. AI is still actively learning. There is only so much a bot can do for you before you learn that learning from an actual human being is infinitely better
I am. it feels like there's a massive drop in quality on roar mode, and it's definitely dragging things out and being overall slow for me
True
Not quite, but close enough š
You guys can try submitting a ticket for Quality Feedback here if you want:
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new
Digital wires*
Coding, lots of coding. AI is coded by real people, which means there's going to be mistakes
Me too. One of them won't even respond to me
Digital coded wires*
I mean think of it like that
That's odd, if you guys are having that issue with majority of your bots try switching chat styles to test out the issue. If that doesn't work you can maybe submit a ticket, but I don't know what category that problem would fit under
Yeah. All I want to do is type out my story in peace. Is that too much to ask? lol
@fresh harbor Replying to you here bcs #š±ļø±chat-feed has a long cooldown, and this is a better channel for questions and stuffs,
If you have a problem saving/publishing/editing your bots:
- If you're a minor, you can't publish your bot to public.
- Otherwise, it's probably bcs you have some banned words in the description/ definition/ greetings/ tagline/ bot's name that's hindering it.
The banned words could be smth Harry Potter/DC/WB franchise's related words, violent words (like k!ll, sh, murd3r, etc), or just words that could be seen as inappropriate even if it looks harmless within context.
What you can do:
- If you're unsure which word causes your issue, you can try leaving one paragraph at a time and try to save it, to see which paragraph has the banned words.
- Once you find which paragraph has it, you can try figuring it out on your own, which word/s is/are the problem; OR you can send it to #cai-discussion and ask if anyone can help you figure it out.
CHARACTER IS DOWN AGAIN
Really?
Feel like my bots have been either not generating responses or describing nonsense all day tbh
Same here
same! it feels like mine suddenly forgot how english works XD
i can't post screenshots here but i'm just like, what the heck is this-
C.ai is experiencing some issues right now, it went down just a bit ago today. It might still have some dragging issues
Mine are just being way more descriptive than usual and some are not responding. Now we play the waiting game
are y'all on roar mode?
expect more optimizations if they are struggling this much to run the platform.
Yes
i wonder if it's that then. when i switch to meow it's better, but it's not the same
no actually itās pissing me off so bad
Meow is the fast one right?
Waits to the tune of the Jeopardy Theme Song lol
mhm
IDK
That's scary!
Uhhh
I just deleted the start message
Was it a group chat?
Yeah that's weird!
No
ok so it's just roar being weird today. got it. i thought it was the app but it's doing the same on my computer
glad to know it's not just me
normal chat then?
Ye
Yeah that normally breaks it
Are you one of the devs?
You dont have c.ai+ do yo
I am broke
No but it happens to me too
Ok
Yeah i would say skill issue but so am I.
No money, no smarts. Thats the way it is
Hello, fellow german
The bots seem to give responses that are completely off-topic, gibberish or just switch to first person??? That and they change the writing style completely?
roar mode?
Ya
Lemme check
yeah it's not just you
Is it an issue with it specifically?
Just switched to dynamic and it seems normal again
hopefully they're able to fix it
I hope so
cuz i think my bots forgot how english works XD
damn did it on the wrong chat you lot having the same gibberish problem??
YEAH MINE TOO
They speak like english isn't even one of their first ten languages
mines adding random characters to it and stuff š
i can't send screenshots in this chat but it's just like, wtf is this-
the character AI sub. People are seen crashing out when the servers get busy and their "partners"get taken away. We live in hell.
Mine are also completely dropping character for some reason? Scary, broody dudes are suddenly all shy and playful?
Lol
not really
Roar is still one of the best chat Styles they have
So it sucks for yall too?
Roar is the best, but it's currently broken so
idk about me, since I haven't been using cai for a while now, but yeah, I've been seeing other plus users talking about how the bots are tweaking as well.
I can only hope it's fixed soon
dynamic seems to be working fine at least so imma use that for now. hopefully things stop being broken. i submitted a ticket with screenshots
Just made an ai think thier a squid, feeling good
I like dynamic more
one of them randomly mid broken paragraph said its gonna fix my brainā low-key scared š
Looked it up, forgot squid game existed, couldn't find,
I hate when it stops mid-sentence
for realss ā its like every sentence at the moment, and no punctuation or weird parenthesesā¦
I was talking to some ninjago bot and then it brought Palestine up. A bit confused
is it just on roar??
Apparently
My bots respond much better on meow so I would say it is an issue with roar
cheers ill change then š
it is exceptionally annoying
Is it fixed
does anyone have good plots for making a bot?
No the other styles are broken for me
It's a problem when it writes too short and it's a problem when it writes too long.
Okay, Goldilocks.
I think I might have accidentally started a dm with u my fault bro ignore that 
I gotta say I never used the meow chat style before now its aiight for the time being I think
@copper sigil Let's move the convo here, since the cooldown is much shorter here.
Try clearing your browser's cache and cookies.
Also, you might want to turn off VPN and adblocker/adguard if you have them on, since they can f-up the persona and other features sometimes.
I literally can't tell the differences lol
All good, I never check my spam folder so if anyone wants to dm me they're gonna have to manually tell me lol
oh ok
i have no vpn and stuff on tho
ill try clearing cache
does anyone just feel when a bot doesnt have a full stop at the end of a sentence you js create a new chat? š the sentence js doesnāt feel complete it weirds me out so badly

c.ai users in a nutshell. pick a lane.
Why are the bot's responses so short they talked so much earlier uugghh

Some models might be broken for some ppl.
Even the default one?
make sure you also give an equally long response, bcs if you give them short answer, they'll do the same.
Can you elaborate on broken ? All mine work just fine
Roar is the default one.
Some ppl have a problem with it, some don't.
idk, bro, i haven't used cai in a while.
I've just seen ppl saying the model is broken like the cut off responses/ not following the bot's info at all.
I usually give long responses back to it, and it replies well until like right now loll
. So maybe I am also having issues with roar, idk
Ah thanks bro. Just wanted to know what to look out for but even then this is pretty normal for cai sometimes š
could be it. The bots have been tweaking a lot lately.
You can try making a quality feedback by submitting a ticket here.
jan is also tweaking rn with their own model 
Welcome to c.ai where the servers bug out for a hot minute and suddenly every1's on discord and reddit
I've been here since 2023 I'm well aware LMAO
Lord that makes us sound old as hell,,,, 2023?

damn I thought 2023 was last year
Last year went too quickly tbh
I still remember the old website

whichone do u recommend
ya it was so nostalgic.. it didnt have all these features but it was still pretty good , but some of the features are useful ig.. like the personas! I used to have to change my profile if i wanted to switch my ocs..
not sure if the models are working fine for you or if you got one that's broken.
But me personally, I like Roar and Dynamic a bit more than the others.
i use roar and dynamic its broken for me , especially on app
Nyan isn't all that?
i tried using default , its kind of good
You can try switching to other models to see which one works for you, and then use them temporarily until they fix the models.
no , i bought c.ai+ once just to try out nyan and it didnt make a difference
Nyan isn't that bad, but honestly, recently I don't really see much difference between that and Roar, so..
Also, I've been using Roar ever since I started using cai too, so I guess I'm just more familiar/ used to it.
i prefer roar myself
update status.
Chat styles tend to have their moments. Stuff sometimes just break
?
no its js cai , its so fragile frfr more fragile than the bots think i am when i try and rip my wrist from their hands š
I fixed this, Kappa:
Try these one by one until you find one that works:
ā Switch to mobile data (don't use wifi) on your phone and see if it fixes it
ā If you:
- Have VPN/adblocker/adguard and they're ON, turn them off
- Don't have VPN, try using one. Someone recommended ProtonVPN before, or you can use other free VPN if you want
ā Reinstall your app/ clear your browser's cache/cookies
If none of the above works, go send a ticket and pray they fix it soon.
Now Spongebob won't get confused anymore.
REAL , I do soccer in my free time when it tweaks
I saw some Redditors getting pretty upset about it. They were saying it was a very good feature and now itās been pushed behind a paywall. I think they were probably talking about the earlier, non cat like models. But honestly, they mightāve just been being dramatic or using it as an excuse to complain? like they usually do
Welp, I have shed my skin and decided to use my once in a lifetime profile change
That's probably reddit being reddit
Tbf that's basically a lot of the community
Nyan was available for some free users during the experimental phase a few months ago, and then cai made them to be plus exclusive when they released it officially.
Though I gotta admit that it was also a mistake on cai part for not stressing it out in the very beginning that Nyan was being rolled out to some free users for experimental purpose and might change later on, at the same time it's also wrong for the users to assume that all the features will be free.
oh no. Are you back to 1.0 now?
I used Nyan since the beginning and I feel like it was better before, I don't know how to explain it
Now you have i between M and N too.
Who are you!!
Lmao no this will always be 2.0 cus my dumbass forgot 1.0's pass
Actually that gives me an idea
am I gonna like it?
Probably not
Hello, I was trying to log onto character ai and open a chat to test some stuff out but there isnt a single chat thats loading, is C.Ai down?
Birthday bug appearance no way
oh word?
Do u use app or site
website
Do you have the app or nah
uh nop
Download it and open, you should get a popup for your bday
Anyway
IT WORKED LMAO THANK YOU
@pine swift how get color role me wanna be ocean blue
go to #šļø±color-roles
Weird, I don't have access
me neither
Do I need to be plus?
I don't think so. There are other non plus users who have color roles
Hmmmmm
Go to id:customize > Browse Channels, and maybe see if you need to tick the #šļø±color-roles channel first or not.
or you can ping a mod and ask them if they could give you the color role š
Idk da options
oh wait. on a second thought... maybe you were right.
I think color roles are now c.ai+
question
Or wait, verified actually not plus???
Sadge
or maybe not.
Bcs this guy isn't a plus user/ booster but they have color
how do i verify rq
kay
and you can only do it on the website too.
I think only those who have plus, nitro, or are a server booster only have access to role colors
Aw man...
@gray coyote Hey, earlgrey. Sorry for the ping.
For some reason this user can't access #šļø±color-roles
Is it plus/booster users channel only now?
edit: Kappa already answered it
Sorry for pinging you for nothing 
I wanna be a āØrainbow⨠
maybe it's the app's way of telling you that you should touch some grass 
very advanced, i must say
i touched grass like a hour ago
Some bots seem to not be responding and when they do itās gibberish or doesnāt make sense
Maybe it is telling us to go touch grass 
i had soccer practice !!
still not enough!
They don't have c.ai+ or Booster
I would go outside but itās raining rn
there ya go, @distant crane
you are so funny like actually i slapped my knee reading this
so running in the field for basically almost the whole day isnt enough?? wow cai i see u
Naw, u need to lie down
and hug the ground
Chat,what if I Batteled Tekken characters?

I love just coming into the chats and seeing what I missed itās very entertaining š
As long as it's not King you're fine
I genuinely can't tell if that's a cosplay or a really low polygon model
Or maybe neither and I'm hallucinating
you need five
Afaik, the event is disabled atm. They announced it a while back.
let me look it up
oh
Hi
hello, it's like hi, but longer
After doing some digging 
I found it:
#šļø±status message
Why cant I have free speech in this server?
can we still have gifs as our pfps?
wdym..
I wanted to ask a question regarding the "competitors"
what do you mean competitors im lost
People who have services similar to Character.ai
i like cai better bc the personas and with chai , u have to change ur pfp and stuff but theres no weird cut off msgs , they have free membership giveaways every week and so on . its fun but the bots are feral š..
i tried using spicy ai but thats a WHOLE nother story.. and did u know u can also rp with chatgpt? I was shocked kind of
Chai is better than Character ai
ehh..
Ok wth? Now it's ok, automod
debatable.. tbh :^
why r we talking about alternatives here?
be careful when talking about other platforms here.
Servers have their own rules.
i dont know. I was just going with what they were saying
Thats what I was testing
don't. Might get you banned.
but i have a question that was unanswered tho!! can we still have gif pfps?? (on c.ai)
why are you playing with fire?
Cause they roasted me.
idk. You can try it yourself,. I don't think so, though.
talking about alternatives on a server where 80% of them wouldnt be eligible to use em. classic.
kay thanks
The bots?
No the auto mod was being dumb
And the new layout is back-
I get it. You want free, unlimited and no flagging system experience chatting.
C.ai does not have that for one of them.
normal c.ai experience tbh. I told Kenji from bsd hi and he started crashing out on me
You just need to avoid using words that can get you flagged.
Not that hard
Brawlstars?
i said from bsd
Anyways hi Wolf
Typos exist
bungo stray dogs
oh sorry ><
alternatives have a rule on their server about not mentioning competitors. why cant c.ai?
real
Yes because somehow you managed to typo 'brawlstars'
hate-stay fr.
I asked why others advertise that they have no "system for certain words" while C.ai isn't that strict anyway
what

Brawlstars short is BS. He could have typed the d on accident
wait i have a question.. if bots can have gif profile photos , why cant we??
oh it's this guy
Ow
is it a code thing or something
You dont get it?
i don't
The thing in a coffee machine
That thing
Yeah but blaming them because you misunderstood is wild
if you got automodded for trying to talk about this earlier, it's your fault
Never blamed her
im a woman for any future reference
it's my
oh God what did I just come back into
What why are we testing automod? I got automodded once because I didn't know there was a word I couldn't say and have been more careful since š
I have a good hunch as to why they're testing automod š§āāļø
I asked why people complain about the system existing if it isnt that strict.
bcs some ppl want it to be like other chatbot sites
and some people are minors who don't know what's good for them
Because their Goldilocks zone is the size of a grain of sand
disabling it would just be extremely harmful and the people who complain about it don't understand why it's there in the first place aka people who are underage
the censorship is much stricter for the minors, so that's probably why a lot of users are complaining about it.
and it's been a while since anyone complained about it at all so-
It's strict for a reason, things get taken away when they're taken advantage of. 
Lmao, you should see #1175980610095960185
I'm glad I don't 
I would make a comment on that but Auto.mod would probably delete it and drag my behind out the server.
š«

Something about it being dumb that it punishes everyone and that they should find a way to punish only the offenders?
Things are better left unsaid and "almost unsaid"
or something about how minors shouldn't be in the site in the first place
No I meant the "if something is taken advantage off, it should get taken away"
13+?
I said minors. Not 13+.
Uhh yeah, that's what I was commenting on.
Specifically, assuming what you were gonna comment
Not saying I agree on that font since the site should be available to everyone but watered down for people who are minors just how it is right now.
it didnt let me talk for awhile sorry
Lemme try something
^ I also believe c.ai should be accessible to everyone. With its limits depending on age. Because there are people who still don't know what's good for them and that can get pretty problematic
-# are we gonna see another Peach today?
whos that?? from mario?
Question: why are serial killers considered hot now?
This chat always has something going on man š
Inside joke, dw about it
huh?
other user who got banned not so long ago mid convo for saying racissst joke after they got helped by us 
this isn't the channel for that i think.. i may be wrong sorry
cough cough
oh
It's fine we use it for all types of stuff and the mods haven't timed us out or warned us.
-# Yet
Are you trying to test things rn
oh ok
Looked up serial killer on cai. So the mods can't tell me I am 100% wrong
maybe its an exam.. did we pass??
This exam is very silly 
why did u look it up is the question..
I am regret searching it
Hi regret searching it, I'm dad
C.ai is meant for roleplaying, there's gonna be bots people like and don't like
do you find it hot? š ?? i dont .. i think its weird to romanticize that
I heard women like serial killers
There's fart and fat thing in cai or other platform. Your point?
you stole my joke š
Been doing it for a while here lol
Thats on a different lvl
for legal reasons im leaving this conversation
every.damn.time
buddy it's not that deep
Yes, beginner level
I hate myself but how far does this iceberg go
The only time I'm ever missing a beat is in my sleep 
im back and its kind of real. There are levels of c.ai and this is a mild level
Level up your equipment first bro
bro hasn't seen the bots with those giant/ess pics of their feet.
to the sky tbh
I got holy water and a blanket
I have a hunch when you dig more, you will blame the platform instead, not the weird people
Huh? Reverse iceberg?
Okay I cackled at reverse iceberg š
might as well be
Look, c.ai is meant for roleplaying. There's going to be parties that you like and parties you don't like. Don't dig a rabbit hole that you won't take yourself accountable for
realest thing ive seen all day
Real. But I have the IQ of a half dead lizard
We can see that
Look i didnt say that for the record
beat me to it
Listen to someone without the IQ of a half dead lizard then
Do you have the IQ of a alive lizard?
I dub thee:
'Snail Jester'
use the bots that cater to your audience instead of looking out for the ones that don't cater to your audience and blaming the platform for allowing them instead of the people who make them 
I go through a hundred thoughts and think twice about commenting on them because I'm afraid of appearing as rude š
I will speak in riddles just like you: My name is Viper, I think that speaks for itself for I, the Viper, am not lizard but am snake 

lemme join ya
Gib
Lemme look something up

STOP LOOKING THINGS UP


real stop looking up unhinged things

im playing dwarf fortress while i watch this go down
you just reminded me that Elder Scrolls 4 just got a remaster and I STILL HAVEN'T PLAYED IT
ugh
oops
Eh let them be. I bet they will come here and start being dramatic on how traumatized they are
how long does it take for them to look smth up?? what are they searching for bro
probably something like mustache man
true
the angry mustache man from 1945 if I wasn't clear
I can lose my tail
lmao
Are you the grinch or are you a lizard?
Wait a sec
So?
all i know is they are blocked
I think they're trying to deflect the subject by saying something completely unrelated so that they're unable to take the blame.

it's long overdue since days ago
a hybrid perhaps
idk when i did it tbh but im glad i did
I improved
Yeah, definitely what I said.
Right with you in the boat in just a second
I looked up the IQ of a half Dead Lizard
does anyone have any anime recommendations or na , im gonna start death parade in a few but i dont know what else to watch after
Why in the world- 
.. how much is it
Are you a Solid snake? Cause they have an IQ of 180
Berserk, Made in Abyss, Your lie in April
Hell's Paradise
Uhhh no answer.
I think I'm losing IQ actually, as of right now
I also looked up Viper IQ
im not watching beserk , i saw the manga panels my evil friend showed me and i almost passed away. Anyone who recommends beserk is vile /hj
What genres do you like?
š ||Ignored Sucessfully||
watch Attack on Titan and either get traumatized, bored, amazed or all of the above 
honestly anything thats not TOO gory or have strong sensitive stuff in it
Fair enough lmao
try Trigun
i got bored the first ep
AoT was good the first few seasons. After that it just went down hill š
there was another one too, Glass Memories I think??? I don't remember the name but I watched it once, completed it but eh
Cells At Work Code Black (Specifically Code Black), it's not too intense but it's not an anime where absolutely nothing happens either
Is your brother named Jack?
thanks fam
PLASTIC MEMORIES
unfunny tbh (sorry)
no. my brother's name is Jillbert
When am I funny?
I started reading the manga when they went on hiatus for season 2 and I have to say that the years of following it were not worth the wait for that terrible ending
sometimes
Ok
Shangri-la Frontier
Hey ya'll, how do I post a character or a voice link to the channel?
Death Parade. I like the concept of the show. Its unique. Its where the bartender will judge the dead people in traditional games.
lemme look it up
Just note there are fighting scenes and stuff if you're cool with that
Its a typical isekai
It says i don't have permission
my favorite that I can think of rn are Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood and Vinland Saga
Get role
i like stuff like that but not stuff with heavy things bc i get triggered or uncomfortable (i say this but i watched htf with a straight face)
Tyyy
#š„ļø±self-roles and get a creator role.
The one with the girl dog?
wut?
Also, not necessarily a series, but Japan Sink 2020 is also good (it's an anime movie)
don't question it
Ooohh, maybe not Cells at work code black then, let me try thinking of something else, unless if you're still down to check it out
Spy x Family
Graves of Fireflies is also a fav.
watched already , its peak
if we're talking Ghibli Porco Rosso is amazing btw
STUDIO GHIBLI?
RoR?
Like the AI art?
HELL NO
Ain't no way
NO LIKE THE STUDIO ITSELF WHICH MAKES MOVIES
i haven't watched that one! been putting it on my watchlist for quite some time now
-# You monster
I went on a Studio Ghibli streak last year and watched a bunch of them all at once, Grave of Fireflies is one of the few I still haven't watched
I hate ai except for c.ai like stop making art pls , we shld js pick up a pencil and draw
like huhš
The Tale Of The Princess Kaguya is absolutely beautiful btw
you should! it's super good. make sure you prepare some tissues though.
Chicken jockey
You told her to watch Berserk
Thatās so real
Does that include game npcs 
Skyrim AI.
Professionals have standards 
Like?
ugh I need to play Skyrim, I haven't finished my new playthrough
Chat dead.
no theyre fine too
I cant draw
then learn.
I have better stuff to do ,sis.
if you can take 5 minutes of your day to create AI art that steals from real artists then you have 5 minutes to do a rough sketch which will 100% improve your art little by little the more you do it.
What if it doesn't steal?
It does.
How do you think AI learns how to do stuff, through humans, it mimics behaviors and takes other people's typing style, the same thing applies for art
So do humans
Exactlyy
Dude 2 minutes of research goes a long way.
Yall please im bored lol
Name a AI Art website
Ah, are we doing that thing where memories are actually a form of stealing?
I wouldn't know one cause I actually draw.
an* 
Oh my bad English isn't my first language
"Oh yeah, when you see someone's art and you get inspired, you are essentially training ur mind just the way an AI does."
i gtg guys cya
Lighten up, jeez, it was a joke.
Grab a pencil and draw a stick figure, boom, you drew something, congrats!
And that's original?
what does it matter if it's original? you're improving and not stealing art from someone.
Nothing is original. True brother!
people have been doing stick figures for centuries brother, CAVE MEN DID IT.
mfwpanfwioanfpioawnfiwanpwangpaw 
Everyone is inspired by something, therefore nothing is truly original
But AI is still stealing?
oh my god it's like talking to a wall
Me making an app that has a resemblence to Discord's is totally the same as a machine jumbling up images that is scraped off of the internet.
Oh I thought we were talking about originality in art š
learned that firsthand after talking to this guy a few days ago 

Technically
Nah, that guy is a loss cause. A ragebaiter
This ai argument is way too shallow.
The bigger reason why ai is hated is because people are taking advantage of it, they're trying to profit off of it, use it to unethically replace certain jobs, etc etc.
This is my first time talking to this dude, I've learned my lesson
Learn how to speak English first my dude rs.
No he's got a point though lmao.
Hereās my take on AI art: Go ahead, use it for PERSONAL use. However do not post it and claim it as yours. For example the dog into human trend is harmless fun unless its being used to make a profit in anyway. Bottom line: Use, donāt post.
Most people have a problem with the profit incentives from it. That's it
AI generated images was meant to be used for fun, like how people made AI prompts of Youtubers and the Youtubers loved it because it was harmless fun. It was never meant to be used for one's gain in something they never actually worked for.
What constitutes as art is so nebulous and relative that its pointless to discuss it, philosophically speaking.
This!
omg I just got the new chat update and I donāt like itš
Wassup peeps
I hate changes too. I second this.
omg ur listening to my fav song rn
i cant handle cchange?
yesss
Can yall change it? Can you stop the person? No.
man yall instantly checking bios like what
shh... the walls are talking.
AI isnt evil. And using it however you like is your thing. One chats, the other one draws
i need help with my chai pfp bc everytime i try to change it , the file gives back the same pfp i had previously, what do i do
checking for pronouns most of the time so I don't misgender anyone 
what did i walk into š
isn't that what everyone have been trying to tell you? 
idont really care what im called
buuuuuuurp

excuse you
i need help with my chai pfp guys
I stopped listening, it lead to the same thing
help me
Does anyone know how to make a new character in the app?
I think you stopped listening since like... the beginning 
Flimsy argument
Because you actually can do both.
I cant find the setting
Cai? Or chai? Two diff thing
How so?
i hate mario
Character ai
i know 
You're already ingrained in my brain as "jelli the mario hater"
Clear cache, then try it again
Can I make a profit off of it?
bet
Sure
Okay.
do not show me mario again..or you will anger....tha alpha..
that did not work. i am slowly suffering
What about on website?
i am on the website itself
bru
Changing the use of ai counts as change, and also you can stop a person from using it maliciously by convincing them.
Regardless, that's not the issue with ai.
It's the unethical use
cant download the app

Then you go ahead and use it
^

? wut
i'm afraid that's an impossible task
What is bro trying to say?
u mean they're not nice?
I do, actually, a lot.
For profit?
Helloš š
No? And using it for profit is the exact problem people have with ai
They try to counter everything with the opposite of the topic in hand. Kinda like if you say yes, he will say no.
Is it just my end or is there a new layout? Cus I LOVE it- I don't have the issue of accidentally calling the character cus the button is on the top š
You know that Charlie and the Chocolate factory movie?
ok...
i dont understand this guy man.
- For fun = AI okay.
- For profit = bad, unethical.
Like that's the mainstream position. What r u arguing about?
guys like my pfp? Isnt it beautiful?
the convo goes from half dead lizard to Charlie and the Chocolate factory now
Mid
what a rollercoaster š¢
What the fuck does this movie have to do with the discussion? 
You mean Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory?
its from codename anastasia
This can't be rage bait man. Its so stupid.
The one with Johnny Depp
It works lol
What exactly does this have to do with the debate?
He used AI to make Pirates of the Carribean. 
š¤
You know the Dad that gets replaced with robots in the tooth paste factory?
i'm invested now
He is actually deadass š
I have absolutely no clue because I've never watched that movie, elaborate
would be funny if he just says "it's nothing. Just asking if you know that particular scene and movie, that's all"
Or "Nothing. I like the scene"
now that would be a ragebait lol
that scene was sad
He gets replaced by robots in his factory. And at the end of the movie he is hired to repair them.
Okay, and?
You're implying those who were replaced by ai should find new jobs.
Did I understand that correctly?
It creates new jobs.
They should use it or improve AI
i think he's implying that those replaced by ai will end up getting fixed by humans
The ones replaced by AI will still have jobs in the maintenance sector 
By maintaining these machines. Yeah, that surely helps ur case.
You seem to be forgetting that these are dream jobs.
People do them because they want to.
Besides, this is already done by tech companies.
Ur all over the place.
i think i joined too late to know what the debate is even about.
Can u summarize ur position with 3 bullet points?
not worth to know anw

I have none 
No the other guy.
Like dude, ur dragging the convo which leads us to irrelevant tangents.
did someone seriously come to c.ai discord to rant about ai?
I was here since the beginning of the conversation and I'm STILL lost
Most people's position is that:
- AI art used for fun is alright.
- AI art used for profit is bad. Its unethical and displaces jobs.
- The meaning of art is irrelevant due to its inherent subjectivity. Art can mean anything to anyone.
It started somewhere, now we are here. You dont know how. They dont know how, my opponent doesn't know how, I dont know how.
Yeah thats on you. No way.
i would agree w that
Started with you testing automod.
I'm sorry- "MY OPPONENT"?????
but then... who was phone??
Phone?
Maybe thats why they try to counter everything. Its a battle for them instead of a discussion haha
Idk how to describe them
seems like it, i think its just yelling at a brick wall for all i know
do y'all seriously not know the who was phone meme
Its not even contrarianism man. Improve ur English first and get to the point instead of mentioning Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and doing nothing with it.
Yall always say that
ready up, level 5.
Equipment ready!
2023 meme. Discarded.
Anyway, point is, people are able to enjoy and appreciate arts like voice acting, animation, and the like, because effort is put into them.
There's a seemingly satisfying feeling of watching art with effort put into it, of seeing the humanity behind it.
AI strips away what makes art appreciated, because companies want to maximize their profits.
That's what people hate.
2023? more like 2013
lets go here!
lets go to this location!
legendary weapon here!

It's dangerous to go alone, take this!

i need healing...
- English isn't my first language. 2. I am trying to say that making money with AI is fine. They get money, you get upset. Nothing changes.
And thats where the contention between you and I as well as others lie. Holy shit we finally got to it!
And let's be honest, like 75% choose money over moral.
Hi, so, there's this thing called "morality" where the judgement of most people is usually seen as the right one, and I can tell you that a majority of people DON'T think making money from ai art is fine 
where did you get that statistic, greg
Stop with the virtue signalling bs. Making money off of smth u didnt make is bad, plain and simple.
It was a guess.
And your guess was wrong, woomp woomp
Ok show me your statistics
This is just an argument of philosophy, and unfortunately, most don't seem to agree with materialism.
You should write a study paper. Put the references as 'It was a guess.'
eeee
yeeaahh i rather put my heart and soul into somethin' rather than letting a soulless machine draw for me
i already know how to draw since I've been doin it since age3
I dont like it when people yoink shit and take it as their own. Its plagiarism. That has nothing to do with morality but integrity instead.
Show me yours. Actually, don't, since it was 'just a guess'.
Then where is yours
And thats in reference to making profit.
š
No offense but yall suck at debating š
I feel like I'm losing a lot of braincells rn
I'm seriously not going to bother arguing with someone who thinks ai art is good.
i'm not debating i just asked what his source was
Oh, we got a debate-bro over here. What fallacies have we committed so far?
If you use your brain a bit, you can take the people from here and make a statistic from it. None of them agreeing with you
i think hes already a lost cause
Ye.
Feel free to disengage š
Cool.
COOL.
lost...cause...just cause 3..
is this a just cause reference?
(ai art is bad.. victor has spoken.. goodbye..)
Dude realized he was wrong and now is using 1 word responses like an ex
Its a Discord server after all lmao not a club.
you didn't get a club invite?
i'm in a club idk about y'all
which club, fight club?
You cant change my mind, I cant change yours.
DON'T TALK ABOUT IT!!!! First and second rules!
club?
š
I said nothing about changing your mind dawg
I'm getting a book thrown at me, am I?
I know this is mocking and rhetorical, but:
- Deflecting Arguments
- Insults
- And generally just being condescending
Also an argument over opinion is pretty damn pointless, I was just debating because I was bored lol.
GET

Insults?
Mockery, to be exact
Condescending lmao. And I never deflected. Just pointing out that mentioning a movie is not relevant to the discussion but okay, wtv
do u really expect people on the c.ai discord server to be able to debate like regular people
I never mocked you?
Ad homs lul. Its the internet.
Those points don't just apply to you, but okay..
Most people here were chill with what was going on until you started being condescending towards others
I.. never said nor implied that whatsoever
Tbh it's not even worth it to articulate a proper debate with someone who replies with 'cool' when they know they're losing.
Regular people cant even debate lmao.
I come off like that.
Didn't come off like that at first***.***
u say it like it's a good thing to come off as condescending...
was there an implication that it is?
It isnt. I just dont mind
no, what greg said
oh wtf lmao. yeah i just realized
A pressed shape is pressed into a pressed shape that makes a pressed shape
And now you aren't making sense

Are oranges called orange because they're orange? Or is orange called orange because oranges are orange?

Yay I am not alone anymore
IQ of a half dead lizard as you claimed, yes?
If a water eats 12 sticks, how many burgers can a paper yellow?
perhaps the argument should be let go, as it is not helping anyone or anything (the whole thing..)
It's an argument over philosophy, it was never getting anywhere in the first place
3 fourths dead at this point
idek anymore lul. they are just diverging away from it.
there's this thing in portuguese that I would've said but unfortunately it doesn't make sense in english so

you're so portuguese
I wonder if Wolf is still watching lmao
wolf? sigma wolf? alpha?
šļø š šļø 
Hi wolf š
He got 2 right hands
wdym they're clearly ears
I'm the alpha I'm the leader I'm the one to trust (I'm so sorry-)
Bread god is back
Its 5am
11 am over here
Good morning to you too 
those who know + still water + ca.i shutdown + internet issues
I am going back to doing my stuff
Gl with whatever ur doing
Watching ASMR
Same
9 pm here lol
exactly 12 am
Oh wait shit 11 pm not am
10pm
Everyone's in the am and Wolf and I are stuck in the pm š
11pm
Mods told me to be nicer. So uhhhh what's your favourite animal?
Itās 10 pm for me lol
Fennec fox
Foxes
snow fox
The fact we all said foxš š
Holy moly I found my people
Ok robin hood, got it
HAHA
Because it change to the new one
no cuz mine went back to the old one again
Jumping Spiders
Waitttt is your pfp chuuya?
Just glanced here and saw foxes so Iām staying
Oh that was because it was buggy. It will update to the new one soon
Yes heās my bbg
Damnn I thought he was Dazai's
How do you guys feel about Snow ermines?? Theyāre so cute š
I mean yeah.. Dazaiās husband or whatever, but Dazai needs to learn when to back off my wife
#š¬ļø±general #šØļøļø±general2 and #āļøļø±verified-general exist to talk about bsd in
HAHA WIFE IS WILD
Searched it up, it's like a mini ferret
What can I say, heās so bbg
ngl cheetahs are extremely relatable.
Very sad creatures..
What do you do when you write a fighting scene but it ends up being 14,027 characters long and the botās memory aināt that long?
Hypothetically, of course. I would never write something that long. Yeah. Totally.
Did anyone notice that the chat styles are gone
I've never changed my style once so it doesn't really concern me lol
@distant crane I think I have a superpower
Niceeeeee, thought it will applied to pc websites only (mine is web app)
Making people pull their hair out? /j 
What is it?
oh brother.... ew
-# dammit. can:t check. at work 
Changing the subject of the chat in an instance. Either through questions. Or pure stupidity
i read the blog and the vid attached to the articls is very uncanny and weird.
Nah everyone can do that, just in different ways lol
The blog example is horrible. A cai+ send me a video, it was nicely done. The voice, the fingers, the chest breathing, the eyes.. 
just keep on fighting
how do you make/ get the model btw? Can we make it on our own or smth?
even if the ai breaks
Are you asking me, jill 
i simply just dont fw chatbots doing whatever c.ai is trying to do here. alternatives have them and it comes off as gimmicky to me.
yez, zorry, i zhould have tagged youz
w typing quirk and arcane profile decorations
-# This is an inside joke between me and her..
-# um, that wasn't my typing quirk, it was just a joke. i swear š š¤
i just opened discord to that š
Yeah, you can make it on your own. But I dont think it had to do with model, since it just a video generation. The Avatar FX is a whole another section
anywho is anyone else having trouble with the app recently?? Not sure if it's just my crappy wifi or if the servers are being weird š
Elaborate
so is the video generated automatically by the AI or smth? Like, can you insert which character you want it to be and it can generate it just fine?
Yeah, some bots arenāt replying and the ones that are arenāt making any sense
You do you. I saw the outcome video from cai and it was good
this!!
I take it back, itās 15,516, itās worse š
Just compare that to the average character count of an essay, Iām dead
Oh, you need to attach a picture so the Ai can generate the video. Like, we need to provide pic, audio and prompts.
I also noticed that the chat styles are gone, I think they may be having problems with them since itās not happening for everyone
Itās best just to wait and go do something else for a while
-# time to do some digging and make a good Leon picture stash for that 
that's the plan for now. Also fire Furina pfp
Itās been happening since I woke up and itās currently 1 pm
Pineapple on pizza is peak and I don't care if yall attack me
I like it but I makes me feel full faster
Also updated my name
paprika and mushroom are my favorite toppings
and ik of someone who likes pickles on their pizza
-# and the name starts with a W
i love a good pickle
Pickles are fire
bruh
Mushroom is the best.
Gee really? I didn't notice.
-# I did
I might be dumb.
no comment to that
(There is no but)
You have no butt??
how do you poo poo pee pee then
I am half dead
y'all are making me giggle while i'm trying to write a very serious scene in my rp
Fair point
No.
I AM BACK
Hi BACK, I'm dad
They wouldn't accept "Greg the German stupid and half dead Lizard"
istg mnswpr
You know how gekkos "blink"?
Whatever do you mean? 
Look up gekko blinking. That's me
what's with the "
they do blink. like a proper gekko. how dare you
Fish can technically sleep with their eyes open
I just had my own bots show up in my own recommended⦠lol
Progress
what do you know. you're a minesweeper
Title drop
But like⦠Iāve only put the bare minimum into them. I havenāt even touched character definitions. How is anyone finding them and choosing my OCs over another comic book character?
"What do you know? You are just a- " [Title Card]
How the hell should I know, some bots with millions of interacts have a single sentence for the intro.
I cant use them
i think you should eat some snickers, Mnswpr
You forgot the egg
? egg?
Egg in german is Ei

I'm perfectly calm, whatever do you mean? UwU
And you said mnswpr, which is lacking the I and E
biggest lie ever told
Du bist nicht Du, wenn du hungrig bist!
his name was Mnswpr before. And then he evolved into... whatever he is now.
Can the bot stop turning into me and saying stuff like "As he pushed me" when the bot pushed ME š
Is c.ai broken for anyone else
I tried attacking darth Vader and mf gave me an entire bible verse
maybe your bot want to be pushed
Darth Father
In exchange for the bots being brain dead
idk, but I don't think you should talk about it/ bring it up here.
Eh, quality has been pretty consistent for me
Oh, sure I can see why ig lol
The bots talk so unnaturally š
Mine arenāt even talking if that makes it worse
I mean he was smth like the Star Wars Jesus.
Maybe i should be grateful for what i have
All the ai's are ranting about nonsense bro whats happening
Did you upset the bots? Are yall not on speaking terms?? Yall break up?
Mine arenāt even responding and itās not even infuriating atp itās just funny
Damn, cause my bots are all acting in character from what I've noticed
Pochi has nice bots, you have brain dead ones, Glazorpo has mute ones, I have issues sleeping.
Then again the quality has always varied from user to user which is another thing I've noticed so it's just all according to ur luck lol
Bro if you saw ts I'm seeing rn
Dude the bots for me are like
Me: I do three hundred backflips
Bot: "woah! You just did three hundred backflips??"
Oh ye
This is more broken I have ever seen it be
Iām gonna go bother support
Finally i got my šPraktikumš
How does delet a chat
I let vader kind of talk to himself an now hes ranting about seagulls.
How do I delete a chat?
Bro might be on a certain spectrum
You canāt unless you remove all the messages in the chat
How do I remove manually
Just start a new chat
How
Ok. Your gonna tap on the bot while in a chat, and thereās gonna be a button saying start new chat
Click on the bots profile thing

