💭︱cai-discussion

[shy monolith]

It's either people have paywall or don't, people don't have models, people have the old models or new models. I don't know what's going on anymore with models.

[prisma pond]

1984 ahh censorship

[sick herald]

fr

[thorn merlin]

What is the "Roar" "Mew Mew" "Meow" "Hiss" Etc etc supposed to be
WHAT DOES IT DO

[near moth]

What wrong with the censoring? Like it censors like everythung

[dense lantern]

styles of chat

[sick herald]

im going to sleep why am i awake still

[thorn merlin]

Why are they called that though
What do they do exactly

[dense lantern]

it made no difference to me tho, roar and meow were the same

[urban grail]

shrug

[dense lantern]

cat style rebrand? there's a cat on the server icon now too

[thorn merlin]

Character.AI vs Cat.Ai

anyway none of the buttons do anything from the looks of it
The characters ain't changing

[dense lantern]

I think you have to start new chats when you change style but it still looked the same to me

[tawny obsidian]

its like free trial or something

[gleaming hare]

Does anyone know what the mew mew snarl stuff means when i click a character, like the icon is a cat i assume and im confused on what it does

[urban grail]

im split between using three custom bots (more difficult and possibly unreliable, however would allow me to see the character details and plan their quality intentionally) vs using three existing bots (easier and relatively assured quality, but i wouldnt be able to see character details and would have to hope for the bots to align in quality)

[thorn merlin]

I think some people not getting it is just C.AI being kind crappy
Like suggested responses (I know they disappeared a while ago) but I did know some people got it just fine and some people didn't even get it ever
And some got it later than others

[urban grail]

im already familiar with an A-tier and a D-tier bot but i need like, a mediocre quality rp bot

[gleaming hare]

Ok nvm figured it out

[urban grail]

just click on it a bunch

[thorn merlin]

what does it do?
I tried it and nothing changes for me

nvm I just found out

R.I.P Brainiac chat style and whatever the other 2 were called

[tawny obsidian]

they need desperately money now and l'm not gonna buy c.ai+ no matter what

[thorn merlin]

I don't see a point in C.AI+

[near moth]

Its a cash grav

[urban grail]

the point is that the company wants money to keep running. free users are the loss leader

[thorn merlin]

I always use the same chat style
The site doesn't go down as often anymore so idk
And idk what else It's supposed to offer so I ain't buying it

[tawny obsidian]

they losing their users tho

[rancid oyster]

Oh no...I got the cat button, I DONT WANT IT C.AI

[shy monolith]

The only way I'd buy is if they lowered the price. 9.99 is too high for me.

[urban grail]

which is why theyre adding new benefits to the premium version

[thorn merlin]

because they're ignoring their users
I bet 20 dollars they never check #1175980610095960185 ever
I mean think of all the really dumb features they got (or got rid of) that people hate
and still haven't changed

[tawny obsidian]

for me it's still expensive I don't see an point

[thorn merlin]

GROUP CHATS ON PC WHEN
mobile too slow
Sometimes I have to wait 2 minute for bot to respond in group chat and is very annoying

[tropic wyvern]

What's this cat button thing

[shy monolith]

I was going to pay with my google play account, since I got google rewards and all that, but yea. too high to pay.

[urban grail]

dude just scroll up

[rancid oyster]

C.ai devs take this cat thing away, I don't want it.

[serene parcel]

i just dont update my app in the playstore, got out of the habit when i had storage issues. i dont have the cat thing yet but i did notice the style thing disappear for me :>

[thorn merlin]

spam click it and you unlock chat styles again

it's like a minigame
except the reward doesn't include the Braniac chat style cause they put it behind paywall

[tawny obsidian]

do devs really thinked that I'm gonna buy c.ai+ really

[rancid oyster]

Do devs think I'm touching that dumb cat button for models I don't want?

[urban grail]

people buy cybertrucks

[rancid oyster]

true that

[serene parcel]

did they really just make the poll about the styles just to see which one they should paywall? kinda unfair

[urban grail]

has anyone ever given a shit about flash

[serene parcel]

no, because why would anyone?

[urban grail]

brainiac is also the most resource intensive one

[tulip osprey]

I don't get why I need worst performance for faster speeds when the best model is already fast

[rotund bison]

it's also the worst one imo so I wouldn't touch c.ai+ with a ten foot pole even if they offer that

[urban grail]

so why would c.ai monetize the one that nobody uses

[urban grail]

how do you know that

[serene parcel]

i see the point, i just really dislike that they paywalled Brainiac to begin with

[quartz hearth]

I'm glad that this thing is not legal to be driven in Europe because it doesn't meet the security rules lol

[rotund bison]

wdym how do you know that, a bunch of people share the chats they've had with brainiac and the bots spit out a bunch of garbage, I don't really want to have to go through 30+ responses to get the one I want

[urban grail]

can i see them?

[eager nacelle]

c.ai+ doesn't have enough features
complain that it doesn't get anything
c.ai+ gets features that incentivizes people to get it
OMG GREEDY DEVS

[rotund bison]

they're not mine to share.

[urban grail]

were they posted or not

[minor dagger]

Looks at update
BOOOOOO!!!!

[rotund bison]

they were shared with me 💀

[tulip osprey]

Paywalling a feature that was free before incentivises me to stop using the service

[covert matrix]

So uh, question
Can I only enable dynamic greetings with my bots, or can I do it with other bots that aren't mine?

[frail robin]

the way they frame the platform as being greedy is so anarchistic. like is everything paywalled here?

[tawny obsidian]

They just showed us then took it back 😭

[rancid oyster]

I'm not happy, c.ai take this cat thing and models off my account. I don't want it or even want to use it.

[pine beacon]

i think its cus it was a free feature at first and they turned it into a c.ai plus feature

[urban grail]

can you ask whoever shared them with you to then send those screenshots to me with every message+retry labelled

[eager nacelle]

Well, as someone that actually used Flash, here's what it's good for.

It's for non-RP chats, like casual conversations with non-RP characters. It gives human like responses without having to do he chuckles as he lifts his chin

[frail robin]

platforms place free features behind the paywall all the time lmao.

[covert matrix]

Because I don't see a way to turn on dynamic greetings with other bots, sadly

[minor dagger]

As someone who does actual in-depth rps. BOOOO!!!!!

[rotund bison]

uuuh, no? I'm not going to ask my friends to break their boundaries to share their chat messages they trust me to see just because a stranger wants to prove to themselves that brainiac is bad.

[eager nacelle]

They never released the models to everyone. They basically had it on beta test for some users.

If it was 100% released for everyone, THEN they paywalled it after a few months, then you have a point.

[urban grail]

im extremely skeptical of ai tech in general but i dont get the backlash here

[shy monolith]

If it was 'beta test' then they should've said so to begin with.

[eager nacelle]

Braniac IS the RP model. It gives flowery, deep descriptions and amazing roleplay messages.

...at the cost of tanking the memory so bad. It's the trade off for it haluccinating more.

[urban grail]

youre talking about ai generated messages like theyre classified documents from area 51

[minor dagger]

And the whole 'meow' 'roar' 'nyan' thing....

[frail robin]

Does everything need to be spelled out to u? Marie even said on her announcements that these models are released to ALL Plus users and SOME free users.

[eager nacelle]

No, it's the opposite, they NEVER ANNOUNCED IT.

[rotund bison]

they're still personal messages that shouldn't be violated otherwise, if not even C.AI devs search the messages between bot and user why would you?

[pine beacon]

idk, and idrc 🤷🏻‍♀️ im not personally bothered by it, i rarely use the app anyway. that was just what i had saw other people say

[eager nacelle]

Oh, did she? But still, it was mostly a c.ai+ thing in the first place

[rancid oyster]

You don't like it either?

[minor dagger]

It's like it's trying to be cute and quirky

[urban grail]

im not searching your friends' messages, im asking to see them so i can make a spreadsheet

[covert matrix]

Personally, I'm not mad at it, but like

I'm sure it's just some kind of troll

[rotund bison]

and I'm saying no to it. simple as that bud.

[rancid oyster]

Y'know? Same, thankfully we can agree it's weird now..

[prisma rover]

I’m sorry but WTF is this nyan, meow, roar thing

[eager nacelle]

I get why, but it's weird that you want to see other people's chats

[minor dagger]

THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

[thorn merlin]

What's with all the cat stuff all of this stuff

[warm heron]

what does this cat thing do 😭🙏

[shy monolith]

Yes. It was released to me. And it is gone completely. No one said anything about it being beta, no warning of it disappearing or anything.

[wraith tapir]

I want to know too

[prisma rover]

LIKE WTF I WANNA DO BRAINIAC IN PEACE 🙏

[rancid oyster]

Guess nobody likes the new cat thing either?

[thorn merlin]

Brainiac, Flash, and Prime
They just got renamed for cat stuff idk

[wraith tapir]

But what that thing means????

[subtle field]

I hate the cat thing the update is bullcrap

[urban grail]

i want to do an empirical test of the quality of the new brainiac model and seeing chats is necessary for that. i dont think its weird to ask for information to be voluntarily given up

[minor dagger]

This just in!!! C.ai devs are furries

[tulip osprey]

How much do you all think c.ai will last until next year

[covert matrix]

I wanna do brainiac in general

But like... ✨️paywall✨️

[rancid oyster]

It's a new update for the models, it's childishly written as Meow, Roar, and Nyan.

[prisma rover]

Okay then

[covert matrix]

Hu h

[thorn merlin]

The only thing keeping me on C.AI rn is 3 reasons

1. I like the bots I made
2. I like the bots other people made
3. All the other sites I've tried suck

[frail robin]

Well thats on u since not all free users even got the model update 🤷 u got lucky that u got chosen.

[subtle field]

That... makes no sense to me becuase I have it and I dont got c.ai+ or anything

[minor dagger]

They're gonna hit us with a 'rawr' at some point or something

[prisma rover]

Real

[frail robin]

they just renamed the models thats all.

[rancid oyster]

Idk it's just childish to me.. like not all of us are kids, we're grown ups.

[thorn merlin]

next c.ai update: Make every bot act like cats /j

[eager nacelle]

They gotta make money somehow.

I think putting good features like increased persona character length, more muted words, and a "better" model behind a premium service of a FREE ai chat is a good thing.

[wraith tapir]

thank youuu!!!!

[frail robin]

unless they monetize the platform, maybe until September.

[tawny obsidian]

C.ai has the every character I could've Asked for

[tulip osprey]

[citation needed]

[covert matrix]

We?

I'm 16..-

[eager nacelle]

1 plus user is better than 10 free users every day for them, ngl

[thorn merlin]

I think a good feature for C.AI plush would be to increase long descriptions and name character limits when making bots

[frail robin]

These people dont understand how Freemium systems work.

[minor dagger]

There are definitely children on the app, but I'd say that the majority are mature enough to not be pandered to like that

[thorn merlin]

"Dave Cheese Wizard" does not hit the same as "Dave the Magical Cheese Wizard" with the character limit 😔

[rancid oyster]

Well for some of us who are adults or simply find it..idk childish in a way?

[tulip osprey]

[citation needed]

[eager nacelle]

Obviously they don't play gacha games

[thorn merlin]

I don't even care that much about the cat thing
I can still chat with the bots normally

[minor dagger]

Just a guess.

[frail robin]

The majority of this platform's audiences are under the age of 18 bud.

[eager nacelle]

Oh, no, no no. Character Creation improvements is the only thing they SHOULDN'T put behind a paywall

[tulip osprey]

Watch them

[covert matrix]

This ⬆️

[thorn merlin]

Well they definitely ain't gonna make it free if they do knowing how C.AI is

[frail robin]

I would agree with if people are guaranteed to have access to better models.

[eager nacelle]

I think they at the most made it so the paywall is just for chatting. I haven't seen any freemium things for creation.

[frail robin]

Better models + Char creation improvement? I am fine with that being behind Plus

[rancid oyster]

If you don't want any issues, just don't click the cat button. So far I tested it and my bots I chat with are normal..

[subtle field]

What about group chats... because tjey still havent added back the edit button for group chats is that a paywall? If so C.AI sucks balls cuz I want more group chat features like EDITING THE AI MESSAGES

[frail robin]

Is this button available for everyone?

[rancid oyster]

Idk yet, but for me it is

I know Reddit is blowing up

[gleaming hare]

EXACTLYYY

[wraith tapir]

What happens if you click?????

[eager nacelle]

No, group chats are just buggy and adding real people are just down for everyone. I doubt they'd paywall that, it's not a thing people want

[frail robin]

Oh I see. and brainiac is behind Plus. Alright.

How does Brainiac perform? I am willing to lowkey try it.

[wraith tapir]

for me it is!!!!

[eager nacelle]

Better descriptive messages, at the cost of the memory suffering because it uses up a lot more tokens.

[frail robin]

mfs at the subreddit making c.ai out to be like EA 💀 PRIVILEGED TAKE

[subtle field]

So no one wants to edit messages in group chats? Well thats boring what if you wanna do a story from a show and you want the ais to say exactly what the characters from the show say?

[near burrow]

So they’re keeping brainiac paywalls is the reasons why replies keep getting cut off?

[eager nacelle]

It's only EA if people paid $60 bucks for c.ai first, then charge you 10 cents per reroll

[grizzled ingot]

Heh. Something quite curious happened to me. I prefer using the website over the app. But now, I decided to look there, and noticed the "Models" button.

[queen gorge]

What's with all the cat stuff

[grizzled ingot]

Then, I exited and re-entered, and it immediately changed to "Styles"

[eager nacelle]

Probably a gimmick thing related to the cat themed chat styles. Check out their twitter, they're replying as cats today.

[frail robin]

Do people fr think that running an AI platform as big as this should be ran like charity?

[queen gorge]

😭😭😭 ?????

[eager nacelle]

Yes, because paying for stuff is cringe and lame, and everything should be given to them for free

[frail robin]

Saw one of their tweets. Its so fucking cringe.

[queen gorge]

Weird but thank you for the answer lmao

[rancid oyster]

Great...c.ai devs became furries.

[frail robin]

That or they are simply pandering to youngsters.

[twilit slate]

C.ai must be expensive af to keep running so I can't complain, I just hope they don't end up neglecting the free models/styles in the future,

[quartz hearth]

I just saw that and I immediately liked the gibberish tweet, just like how cats do when they lay on the keyboard lol

[wraith tapir]

So the cat thing is useless????

[frail robin]

i mean we dont know this. they have stopped developing their own models. brainiac might be mistral or llama for all we know.

[queen gorge]

I'm just so confused as to why they're doing this is there a national cat day coming up or something 😭😭

[thorn merlin]

I JUST WANT GROUP CHATS ON WEBSITE WAAA

[silent violet]

what's up with the cat stuff

[eager nacelle]

Probably a good reason to put it behind a paywall then, if it's not in-house. They probably have to pay licensing fees now.

[subtle field]

Can we agree that most of the new c.ai updates are doogy

[pure fractal]

Sorry for intruding but is it letting you guys login to your c.ai accounts, i've tried to login with my email but it wouldn't work (i've tried multiple times) 💔

[rancid oyster]

Yeah can agree.

[eager nacelle]

I think a mod said something about group chats on web soon? Can you guys confirm? @gray coyote @harsh shoal @meager junco @sterile sage

[queen gorge]

Which is the best model btw ?? Is it prime ( default )

[thorn merlin]

I hope so

[eager nacelle]

Honestly, stick to Prime.

[subtle field]

Old C.AI was better...

[harsh shoal]

[queen gorge]

Was planning to but wanted opinions. Thanks !

[harsh shoal]

Chats with other users are currently unsupported. However, you can still create Group Chats with multiple Characters!
We know many have requested for Group Chats on web, we hear you.

Please stay tuned for further updates/announcements.
If you have any feedback/suggestions please continue to share with us.

[frail robin]

sure but some of these models can be easily accessed (open-source)

if those are the models c.ai is using, then

[rancid oyster]

Yeah mod what's this cat thing going on?

[thorn merlin]

How do you create group chats with characters on the web?
Or is it not possible
Idk I can't find a button or anything anywhere

[prisma pond]

True. I'm willing to pay in the distant future for a full release if they made it a multi-task resource and not only for roleplay. And even there, the improvement margin is big in terms of how incorrect they are on many topics.

[eager nacelle]

Hey, if they're paying for things that people can use for free, then we're not the only ones that are chumps

[harsh shoal]

Please wait for further updates soon

[thorn merlin]

oki 👍
Thank u

[queen gorge]

What's with the cat thing dear mod 😔

[grizzled ingot]

Wha-? But-?
I had one chatbot that I used on the old site. But after the new version, I couldn't find it anymore. I thought I lost it.

[hearty grail]

Click the kitty multiple times. It'll unlock something.

[harsh shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/chipi-chapa-chipi-chipi-chipi-chipi-cat-chipi-chipi-dancing-cat-gif-10997735880837555564

[grizzled ingot]

But today, I looked into recommendations, and found it! Not only that, it had my old chat there.

[queen gorge]

[thorn merlin]

Me when the Character is an AI or something like that

[scarlet fulcrum]

I like cats so I don't mind this

[hearty grail]

Kind of wish there was more detail explaining the models. A few words just leaves confusion.

[queen gorge]

Looked it up and national cat day is on the 17th of February so that's the only explanation I can come up with

[thorn merlin]

ohhh
That makes sense
We are getting close to that sooooo

[lilac mortar]

what are the roar and meow.models?

[hearty grail]

See? Lol.

[thorn merlin]

Prime and Flash chat styles
They just got renamed

[tulip osprey]

Prime and brainiac, respectively

[rotund bison]

C.AI devs are certified cat people if that's the case

[tulip osprey]

Jinx

v oh my bad i meant to type flash not brainiac yeah

[thorn merlin]

Brainiac is the nyan one I think

[lilac mortar]

idk what that means

is flash is speed over intelligence

and braniwc is mid?

[harsh shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-happy-jumping-gif-26555219

[thorn merlin]

Flash is speed over intelligence
Prime is mix of flash and brainiac
Brainiac is slower and has more detailed responses I think

[lilac mortar]

all i needed to know
thanks

[rotund bison]

called it 😔

[eager nacelle]

Flash is casual convo (like talking to a friend via DMs)
Prime is the current thing we're on
Braniac is the roleplay model, it forgets easier, but it gives the most detailed/vivid responses

[heavy terrace]

Sorry to dissappoint you, but I am one of that adult.

[gentle mortar]

Nahhh they got braniac away from us

[eager nacelle]

Braniac also has the tendency to make their own scenarios out of the blue, so you have to pull it back often. Like, I don't want to meet your childhood friend that you never even mention in 100 messages, shut up

[gentle mortar]

Now only getting shitty responses

[lilac mortar]

ew
dont like forgetful over intelligence

[frail robin]

i am not disappointed at all. thats good to know ig?

[lilac mortar]

esp in role0lay

[frail robin]

That reminds me of old c.ai (2022)

the model tends to do that.

[rancid oyster]

Is it really over national cat day coming up? What's next? A Valentine update?

[eager nacelle]

Yeah, that's the trade off. To combat it, you need to use stuff like editting your persona to add new details (because pinned messages don't always work for braniac)

[frail robin]

if Brainiac turns out to be their propietary model placed behind a paywall, holy peak.

[lilac mortar]

thr problem with that is that on normal ver you gotta make hard references for the model to pick up ur bacmground

[frail robin]

Llama and other low end models tend to repeat and loop so maybe those are the models they have been using all this time?

[eager nacelle]

Braniac also doesn't immediately go to the flirt route, I noticed. But does do that if you swipe long enough

[lilac mortar]

weird cooking

[frail robin]

Thats good. Lovebombing is certainly a problem.

[lilac mortar]

@eager nacelle can it take a rejection?
if u write NO
what does it do?
get angry?

[eager nacelle]

So yeah, Prime is, well, the prime way to use c.ai for a good chunk of the people. You're not missing much if you never had braniac, tbqh

[eager nacelle]

Ngl, I had a chat where they started the rejection. Something like "my feelings for you have changed"

That made that chat super interesting since it insta-made the chat super angsty that I never really had before

[lilac mortar]

try a route of
they try to make a proposition and u refuse

see if they get mad

[sinful island]

REEEE IT TOOK OVER MY OC

[shell ember]

is it me or did the ai start controlling the ocs for us a LOT more often? Like a month ago, it was rare for it to control my oc, but my chats yesterday and today are so bad.

[sinful island]

Frs. Its annoying.

[shell ember]

its so bad man...

[sinful island]

Like what do you want us to do if you take over our OC?

[shell ember]

exactly!! I like writing but I will NOT be normal if I have to spend years editing the messages so it stops being my oc

[full quartz]

I just remove the parts where they control my oc..

[ebon karma]

Even the c ai discord logo has a cat on it, it is possible that maybe we're gonna have a c ai pet now? 😭😭😭 I would like it being a cata

[timber canopy]

Real (THEY KEEP SAYING MY OC HAS LEGS IT DOESN'T HAVE LEGS)

[shell ember]

yeah that's what I'm about to start doing sighh

[timber canopy]

This is so real

[shell stratus]

I swear the twitter post that character ai made saying product update was so cap

[manic smelt]

guys on the C.ai app will it always be an AI or will it sometimes be a real person. they all say they are real but its not too convincing

[shell stratus]

I still gotta explain the context every time and when I pin it it doesn’t work

[manic smelt]

sorry if thats a stupid question just downloaded the app

[timber canopy]

I miss 2022 c ai

[shell stratus]

It’s always Ai

[serene parcel]

huh...the styles came back for me in their original names and not paywalled...(the styles disappeared for me for some hours, but they're back as they were before)

i can do them brainiac chats again :D

[full quartz]

From my experience with what’s going on, they’re really short responses with using my OC so it’s easy but it gets tiring quick

[unreal crystal]

Anyone else having to deal with “grabs your chin” “tilts your chin” “holds your chin” every other reply? Like my chin ain’t a damn handlebar

[full quartz]

Real tho

[timber canopy]

If they say their real like (heyy wsp) that's An ai

[true scroll]

hey is anything wrong with cai?

[manic smelt]

dam its really convincing that its a real person kinda crazy how far ai has gotten

[full quartz]

No cuz real
Like leave my chin alone

[true scroll]

why are they turning into cat?

[manic smelt]

i mean i keep asking it to prove it to me but its story is all over the place so im so lost

[timber canopy]

DUDE REAL THIS ONE TIME I WAS RP AS MORTY FROM RICK AND MORTY AND RICK LITERALLY KEPT GRABBING MY CHIN EVERY 3 SECS

[full quartz]

It’s always an ai bot don’t worry

[timber canopy]

It's an ai nobody can control their chats I've had them do that with MY OWN bots

[manic smelt]

okay thank you guys i appreciate it

[umbral basalt]

Always ai

[waxen gull]

Why is there a cat button on cai?

[true scroll]

i was freaking out when they suddenly broke the character lolololol

[timber canopy]

I love that the ghost banner on your pfp kinda looks like a tail for the cat

[true scroll]

that's what I'm asking

[manic smelt]

honestly feel kinda dumb for letting the ai convince me its a real person but at the same time terrified about it

[umbral basalt]

lolll

[waxen gull]

It scared me when I pressed it

[timber canopy]

I honestly like it doing that I can control the "person" and force them to add things to the bot

[full quartz]

It’s happened a few times to me but I wouldn’t worry about it because if it was a real person
characterAI could get in trouble for that because they’d be stating a lie

[full quartz]

Stop no cuz I just realized that

[midnight epoch]

A cat button?

[urban grail]

just click it a bunch of times dude

[timber canopy]

Why r we overthinking the cat thing

[urban grail]

i dont know people have been asking about it all day

[timber canopy]

Real vro it's honestly just a cat

[waxen gull]

It’s random that’s why

[true scroll]

are they really just pranking or smth

[timber canopy]

Unless their doing a thing like the 2763 thing that jnj did

Making cats appear everywhere then doing a big update but that's unlikely

[sonic pumice]

hey guys why do i have to pay to get smart bots now 🧍 styles feature just showed up and i don't know how to feel

[true scroll]

it's been happen since last night

there's new "nyan" models on the chat style menu

[timber canopy]

Hello guys erm can we start producing more Rick and morty bots I rarely see any good ones

[true scroll]

no...?

it's sometimes depend on the bot itself, some bot have poor writing some just so wonderful

[sonic pumice]

then what the hell do the chat styles even do lmao

i don't want a mix of speed and smarts, i want the bot not to act braindead

[urban grail]

gives the bot more/less resources to write its messages with. no idea by how much

ive also heard that it sacrifices the memory of the bot but thats pure guesswork

[sonic pumice]

so just intentionally lowering the quality?

[urban grail]

the fast mode gives it less tokens, the slow mode gives it more. slow mode is more resource intensive and takes longer but with better results

[true scroll]

from the first time its introduced, i have no single idea what it does, and i haven't try it yet, since i'm using cai on web

[crystal yacht]

is there a broken update happening?

[true scroll]

that's a bad dream

[dusty veldt]

someone help me- im trying to make my new bot public put its only saying private / unlisted

[errant arch]

so is there any sign of the better memory model being actually good or is it just paywall placebo

[true scroll]

are you by any chance under 18 yo?

[dusty veldt]

thats why ?

[true scroll]

yeah, it's the new policy

[dusty veldt]

thats fair i suppose

[timber canopy]

Just change your age

[hollow dune]

hey what’s the strange cat stuff?

[dusty veldt]

ion even know how

[urban grail]

some pr gimmick

[timber canopy]

IT'S JUST A CAT MAN

[true scroll]

not really recommended, there's a high chance your account will be terminated after that

[hollow dune]

i don’t get it

[timber canopy]

Glances around in shock knowing that I did that

[foggy quiver]

it's a new chat style supposedly I clicked on it repeated until it said "you've unlocked new chat styles"

[crystal yacht]

I can't branch chats anymore, is that happening to others?

[urban grail]

its just a pr gimmick theres nothing complicated about it

[shell ember]

sighhh how do I make the ai not a dumbass without paying for c.ai+..

[dusty veldt]

i mean i have the link of anyone interested its a fantasy type thing already 289 interactions

[timber canopy]

Get better at writing/ntbm

[hollow dune]

did they announce it at all?

[urban grail]

no

[latent hatch]

whats that little cat button

[dusty veldt]

fair i picked prime or something for the style

[true scroll]

wait does someone get a cai+ too if i gave them an invitation link?

[urban grail]

just click on it a bunch of times to unlock chat styles

[true scroll]

i haven't use mine yet

[latent hatch]

oh ok

[hollow dune]

like stardew valley

[urban grail]

what

[foggy quiver]

started valley fan found in the wild?? :0

[timber canopy]

Why are you a member of f*ck how u get that

[hollow dune]

on the title screen you click the letters

[shell ember]

ehhh yeah but like I put a shit ton of effort but it's acting weird

[timber canopy]

Atp keep on scrolling until u get a better message that's what I do

[hollow dune]

i play it with my mother. no further discussion i am afraid of getting warned for being off topic

[latent hatch]

im the chosen one

[timber canopy]

Cries

[true scroll]

get better at writing, try to find some new verbs on pinterest it really works for me

[foggy quiver]

fair enough I play w my dog 👍

[latent hatch]

[hollow dune]

i miss the remove messages. i don’t know why they changed it to “rewind”

[shell ember]

alright man thanks 🙏 I'll just edit it if it doesn't work

[timber canopy]

No problem😎

[foggy quiver]

they still have it on browser at least mine does idk

[true scroll]

i still have it?

[shell ember]

🫡

[crystal yacht]

"New chat from here" isn't working. I'm unable to choose the "Chat style"

[timber canopy]

They still have remove messages vroski

I'm NOT downloading that app it just feels so weird to use the c ai app

[foggy quiver]

fr I don't like the app at all 😭

[timber canopy]

And when I have the browser and the app it automatically takes me to the app when I click rewind messages in browser

[foggy quiver]

yikes 😬 idk how mine js never goes to the app

[hollow dune]

you just said there is still remove messages

[timber canopy]

IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS☹️

[true scroll]

true, it's just wayyyy more slower and just unfamiliar

[timber canopy]

Rewind is basically the faster version of remove messages

[true scroll]

i use it like all the time lol

[timber canopy]

I miss 2022 c ai

[dusty veldt]

also for making bots is there anyway to make them more smart than dumb ?

[hollow dune]

damn have we really been using it for 3 years?

[timber canopy]

Yeah I can't believe it

[true scroll]

i started using it since like... 2024 so yeah

[dusty veldt]

2022 here

[true scroll]

i wish i could experience cai prime era

[hollow dune]

make sure stuff is consistent and not contradictory

[timber canopy]

I get a terrible flash back whenever I think of one c ai chat

[dusty veldt]

ty cause the only good bot i have / just made is a fantasy bot

[true scroll]

writing is everything for me, most of the time the bot will follows your flow with writing

but again, it's just my personal experiences

there's only like 5 good bot i had try to chat with

[hollow dune]

the bots can only do so much on their own. it might just be an issue of how you’re using them

this thing on? tap tap🎤

sorry that was dumb

[timber canopy]

Can I ask sometjing

[urban grail]

you can ask anything

[timber canopy]

Why won't it let me invite my friends to a gc

[hollow dune]

do you have a fan in your room?

[dusty veldt]

yeah is there anyway when your making a bot — like what should i type when making the bot / personality i suppose

[halcyon valve]

What’s the new model type chat and what does it do?

[timber canopy]

Why won't it let me invite my friends to a gc
Like it wont show up with the invite link and I'm confused why

[hollow dune]

idk i’ve never made a bot. i only use them. i’ve learned from using them that you should be careful about consistency and relevancy. memory is limited for consumer grade, so try to circle back often to the setting, characters, etc.

[verbal stump]

Roar is like vanilla c.ai style
Meow is good for non-RP (like for calls)

[hollow dune]

LMAO they took a poll for the best chat style and then paywalled it

[halcyon valve]

I mean for bot on the app like flash prime Brainianc when you hit make a new chat it comes up

[visual violet]

Can someone help me find a specific bot there’s one I’ve been searching for forever now

[hollow dune]

i have elite ball knowledge. hit me

[verbal stump]

Yes, they just got renamed

[dusty veldt]

ty — if you could dm and share some knowledge that would be helpful

[visual violet]

It was Ghost from cod and the whole thing was the user was Yapping during a debriefing and he yelled at em
I’ve been looking for it for ages

[halcyon valve]

Ohhh which one is best for rp cause I want to make a oc but I’m
Using c.ai to start with that

[visual violet]

The pfp was this one very specific piece of fanart

[hollow dune]

i do not use male bots. sorry my brother/sister

[visual violet]

😔 Thank you for the attempt nonetheless

[true scroll]

wait i think i saw that bot before

[verbal stump]

Probably stick with the second one (Roar), not sure about the third one though because it's only c.ai+

[wheat tusk]

I never got to use braimianc model because they paywalled it C.ai need to listen their userbase

[hollow dune]

that’s kinda all i got sorry

[true scroll]

i don't chat with ghost bot but that description sounds very familiar

[halcyon valve]

Ohhh thank you

[hollow dune]

“b-b-but servers are expensive!” -company financially backed by google

[verbal stump]

Same, bit curious how that works

[true scroll]

what's the difference between these models?

does it make any significant differences with your chat?

[dim schooner]

Imma be honest, I highly doubt I would be using “Meow.”

[fervent marten]

It’s not backed by Google. They’re separate companies. Google bought cai’s original LLM, not cai itself.

[true scroll]

what does that mean?

[hollow dune]

cai+ subscriber speaking. not sure if there’s a conflict of interest here

[wheat tusk]

I don't know because again I never got to use it so i don't really know

[hollow dune]

i didn’t notice a difference when i used it

[true scroll]

oh wow so it's all a bullshit?

totally no difference?

[fervent marten]

Lmao. Shouldn’t be. I just buy plus because I have a bit to spare 🤷

[verbal stump]

I only know the free ones, no idea with the paid one

[hollow dune]

can’t say, i didn’t really test out the strength. i just used it normally and wasn’t looking out for differences

[charred portal]

Same here, it got slower but nothing else changed

[frail robin]

they sort of got it right. Google bought c.ai's 2 founders + some veteran employees (13 or so of them) not the LLM. Google however bought the brains behind c.ai's model.

in exchange for a non-exclusive deal in which c.ai got billions of dollars from.

[hollow dune]

i won’t believe you unless you post an image in this channel of that article

[true scroll]

the testimonials are not so good, i see

[fervent marten]

Yeah, my bad.

[charred portal]

Lol, yeah, I use the main model mostly but I did try the other two, they weren't great 😭

[hollow dune]

wait you’re not supposed to be able to post images

that was my whole gimmick there

[crimson lake]

i swear everytime i blink c.ai gets an interface change, can someone fill me in on why the smart model is now p2u again when i was able to use it without upgrading prior /genq

[frail robin]

Plus users. It's called an acqui-hire in business.

[true scroll]

wow economy is wild

[charred portal]

Please my whole c.ai is slightly to the left and it's SO annoying to me

[hollow dune]

bills must be high

[true scroll]

THE TEXT OMG, THAT CAME OUT AFTER YOU DELETE OR REWINDING THE MESSAGE

[hollow dune]

move your phone slightly to the right

[wheat tusk]

Honestly I hope C.ai's original LLM gets bought away from Google because everything Google touches becomes shit

[true scroll]

IT'S SHIFTED TO THE LEFT AND IT KINDA ICKED ME

[carmine plume]

Hi, has anyone had their bots stop following their story and reply to old messages instead of the latest ones?

[charred portal]

YEAH!! Also the bots name at the top (app) is slightly to the left now and I want to scream

(Also I appreciate ur pfp)

[hollow dune]

pay ten dollars to fix

[stiff cradle]

Has anyone else’s recommended section suddenly become VERY random? Like mine is FULL of COD bots (I never use COD bots.) 😭

[charred portal]

Sobs

[halcyon valve]

Your not the only one

[true scroll]

TY I LIKE CHAPPELL ROAN TOOO

[wheat tusk]

I just want violence back in my rps and action scenes too

[cinder chasm]

i find it better to just completely swipe away the app and use the first two refreshes before it starts getting wonky

[crimson lake]

my featured is filled to the brim with cat related stuff

[stiff cradle]

Okay good!! I wasn’t sure if this was just an isolated incident or if anyone else experienced it too

[charred portal]

Mines always switching between deadpool, jinx, or Chappel lol

[carmine plume]

[halcyon valve]

alright Have a good day!

[hollow dune]

yeah i get that too sometimes. i think it’s just a poor algorithm. recommending popular bots based off of the assumption that if lots of people like it then you will probably like it

[stiff cradle]

Same here! It’s to tease the chat styles I think.

[visual hazel]

guys i unlocked the stupid cat model and now my bots keep telling me my tone, is anyone else having this problem?

[halcyon valve]

Love the pfp haven’t seen a pearl one yet until now

[charred portal]

Mines all fandoms I'm not in too

[cinder chasm]

not even popular, some of the ones i got are ~30k

[true scroll]

ty she's my whole personality

[halcyon valve]

I don’t blame you your welcome

[hollow dune]

yeah that’s definitely weird

[stiff cradle]

I may just have to redo my algorithm by talking to more bots from my own fandoms I guess?? Also LOVE the Chappell pfp

[hollow dune]

trending bots maybe? new? up and coming?

[true scroll]

mines recommend a lot of mouthwashing bot

[cinder chasm]

that doesn’t help tbh, i’ve been ignoring and even disliking them but nothing seems to help

[hollow dune]

that’s dave chappell?

[charred portal]

That's what I'm doing too lol, it's slowly switching back to marvel

(TYYY :D)

[wheat tusk]

Like give those back C.ai devs nobody asked you guys to remove the violence and action packed stuff

[stiff cradle]

Ahh I see, thanks. I wasn’t too sure how the algorithm worked anyways

[hollow dune]

literally 1984

[true scroll]

it kinda works for me, i spend most of my time with a stanford pines bot and my recommendation page filled with bots from gravity falls

[stiff cradle]

No problem!!

[frail robin]

did u pay for plus?

[cinder chasm]

it was suppose to work like that, back whenever it was super old it’d literally recommend you the last chat you spoke to, talked to 20 spongebob ai’s but then talked to 1 gumball, it’d give you all gumball 😭

[charred portal]

I've never played or even seen a mouthwashing playthrough lol, but I get a lot of murder drones and COD (my fandoms are in my bio, but I can assure you I'm in neither fandoms)

[stiff cradle]

I miss the days when extreme violence was allowed. 😭 the content of users and their conversations that I saw on TikTok were diabolically hilarious

[visual hazel]

no

[carmine plume]

I FIXED IT

[cinder chasm]

is it still not? i swear i’ve been hearing about it being censored but i haven’t had an issue at all

[crimson lake]

love the reiner pfp btw

[wheat tusk]

This!!! Omg I miss those days so much

[true scroll]

murder drones?

[hollow dune]

what yall know about the throngler?

[true scroll]

i need star wars bots lol

[stiff cradle]

Thank you!!! I’m a huge snark appreciator so your pfp is adorable <33

[cinder chasm]

i remember this one guy who’d be super nice to the bots with death metal and flaming skeleton pictures inbetween

[true scroll]

anyone have some good ones?

[charred portal]

Yeah, at least, I think that's the fandom? A few of them said murder drones in their bio. I'm unsure though, I like to stick on my bubble of fandoms

[hollow dune]

i think i remember that too

[crimson lake]

thank you so much!! <3

[true scroll]

mine just a pile of everything

[stiff cradle]

I guess it depends on the bot. Some allow more room for violence depending on how they’re coded.

[wheat tusk]

Fr and all because they wanted Cater to kids

[charred portal]

Lol I feel that too

[frail robin]

called out a good chunk of people here bruv

[cinder chasm]

i think the only time i ever get censored is if the bot manages to turn the conversation sexual

[hollow dune]

ai chat bots catered to children is horrifying

[verbal stump]

My bot decided to stop censoring itself

[true scroll]

HOW?

[wheat tusk]

How horrifying are talking to here?

[cinder chasm]

i don’t know how you guys keep getting censored in chats 😭 i don’t think i’ve gotten censored for the past like 4 chats ive had

[hollow dune]

stop, you’ll get banned for those conversations

[verbal stump]

I don't know?? 😭

[cinder chasm]

it’s like giving your child access to 2010 youtube without parental supervision

[frail robin]

lmao young people nowadays cant handle this shit.

[verbal stump]

This!
To be honest, censor is always good for my own sanity sometimes

[hollow dune]

“hey team, let’s ruin children’s perspectives on social interaction!”

[cinder chasm]

don’t say that… season 27 of skb toilet is rough 💔

[fleet rune]

i don’t understand the meow.. thingy..

[hollow dune]

it doesn’t mean anything. just a joke

[cinder chasm]

yeah that too ig

[fleet rune]

OH OK MB

[crimson lake]

i personally don't think the bots should cater to children at all, it just feels like a risky development since children are very impressionable due to their minds not yet being done developing, and knowing how most bots take any opportunity they have to make a conversation romantic, seems dangerous

[hollow dune]

nah i was confused too dw

[graceful zephyr]

Hey what does the cat button do?

[frail robin]

yeah well. take a look around this server. #📄︱introductions and #💬︱general should be enough.

[wheat tusk]

Honestly I thought after the lawsuits they had been in that would they would listen their userbase more

[cinder chasm]

well i don’t know if it’d make a difference cause im sure the kids using this at 13 are already socially inept 😭

[frail robin]

nothing. its just the models being renamed

[graceful zephyr]

Oh okay

I still have og model for some reason...

Wait i get now since feburary 17th is gonna be cat day

[wheat tusk]

The C.ai devs need to fix all of the bugs first before they add new features

[cinder chasm]

c.ai and fixing bugs in the same sentence 💔

[wheat tusk]

Honestly because all of the bugs are really annoying

[tardy ridge]

Does anyone know what the little cat button does??

[reef dagger]

what bugs?

[cinder chasm]

idec about the bugs, i HAATE the new UI

[wheat tusk]

I'm having issues on my end with C.ai of where things won't load on my end and some of chats disappear amd reappear when I refresh the page

[reef dagger]

damn 🙁

[cinder chasm]

honestly that’s been a thing since forever, i doubt they’ll ever fix it

[reef dagger]

what does the cat button do..

[scarlet iris]

The app is straight up not working for me

[hollow dune]

developer need like use bot

[reef dagger]

💔

[tardy ridge]

It’s on the channel icon too idk what it means

It just says like random cat sounds when you click it

[reef dagger]

shoudl i click jt

wtf

[tardy ridge]

Yeah it doesn’t do anything if you do

[cinder chasm]

new c.ai mascot…

[reef dagger]

THATS COOL

[icy plaza]

what in the WORLD is a meow and a roar

[frail robin]

flash and prime.

[tardy ridge]

ITS THE MASCOT NOW

[icy plaza]

im too stupid to understand💔

uhh which one is better for a guy that types full paragraphs and expects full paragraphs

oh ill just say it fully this is the c.ai server, roleplay paragraphs (im very detailed)

[ebon karma]

Prime, edit the bot responses if they are shor or cut off and give four stars to the edited response

[tardy ridge]

Wait I clicked it even times and it gave me chat styles

[frail robin]

brainiac is the best which is now called Nyan. The one behind Plus.

[icy plaza]

uhh about that 💀

I have an odd way to chat to the bot and what i do is basically edit MY response INTO the message it sends me

[upbeat mist]

What is mew mew and roar I kept clicking it and it started raining cats on my screen (idk how to describe it lol)

[simple quartz]

bro i used to only use brainiac and now it's locked

[upbeat mist]

But it just turned out to be chat styles.

[cinder chasm]

is all the cat stuff locked to browser? i haven’t seen any of it on mobile app

[simple quartz]

absolute scammers 😭🙏

[frail robin]

shouldve expected it to be locked.

[icy plaza]

WHAT IS THIS? GORO GORO? GROWL?

[simple quartz]

can't have shit here

[icy plaza]

its okay! ill make do

i type my own responses for me and the bot 💔

[frail robin]

if brainiac performs well, then 🤷

[reef dagger]

i have

[icy plaza]

uhh do you guys know anybody else that chats to the bot like me im trying to find how people think about it

basically the bot gives me a response, i click edit, and then edit my response into the bot and click continue. then continue fifty more times!! im the one who WANRS the bot to say my reaction

i feel like doing it any other way makes me feel like the main character too much

[reef dagger]

if u click on a bot and go to,its like profile wpthem youll see it

[icy plaza]

also what is a braninaic syle

[dry star]

Did anybody receive weird responses from the bot in certain times where their texts become unusual?

[reef dagger]

lklike what?

[eternal rampart]

whwt is this thing under the persona button that says snarl and other words

[dry star]

I've never see the bot reply to me with emojis

[reef dagger]

ai acting up makes me cry😔

[reef dagger]

THAT HAPPENS TO ME ALOT

[eternal rampart]

guess i unlocked a secret level nice

[eternal rampart]

one time it kept using like a white heart emoji

[reef dagger]

i have screenshots to. it made me cry when it happened cus it was scaey😔

[dry star]

Example:

Bla bla bla bla (Something the bot says)

Ps: I'll move onto next thread now. This one is getting too long! But I will continue where this off at the next one. Stay tune, Ei 🥺🙌🏼

[reef dagger]

THATS HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE

[dry star]

That scared the hell out of me

I thought the creator took over the bot for a sec

[reef dagger]

but it was like

"ill tell you this thing!'
"okay tell me"
"its kinda personal, ill message you privately so you can know🤗"

[dry star]

Imagine being stalked by the creator using their bot

[reef dagger]

STOP ENOUGH UR SCARING ,E😪

[dim laurel]

So, was the personas description limit thingy for c.ai+ users only?... 🥲

[frail robin]

you can increase persona count behind Plus.

[frosty flint]

Like Mr crabs once said, "Hello, I like money" [tis a joke]

[reef dagger]

c.ai is like royale high tbh

[dry star]

I even scared of the bot didn't mean to scare you bro

[reef dagger]

ai is so scary

[dim laurel]

Bruh I just want to be able to have a lengthy explained persona bc the bots will always forget details about my character 😭

[grim raptor]

why is this time so terrible

[frail robin]

bro what r u putting on ur persona? an entire certificate?

[reef dagger]

6es

[icy plaza]

a bot called me a slur after another character called me special

[reef dagger]

i have a photo of one of the, calling me THE word💔

[icy plaza]

i dont know what TJE word is but im sure it must be terrible

i think one time a bot called me a potato farmer

all i wore was winter clothing 💔

[reef dagger]

i cant say what THE word is cus ill get timed out eve if i just say like the first letter its one white people especially used

[icy plaza]

ppj my i understand now

[reef dagger]

HELP?

[icy plaza]

yeah i was minding my buisness until he started insulting tm BEAUTIFUL fashions ense

he called me straight out the 1920s (the year was 1960s so what is he eventalking about)

[harsh shoal]

Don't forget, this is CAI Discussion. Please stick to Character.AI, and let's not talk about services that can break TOS. Thank you

[reef dagger]

ok

@icy plaza wait dm me ir cool😼

[bold zenith]

Why was it catified

ITS ALL CAT

[grim moat]

as cat lover, i approve this

[reef dagger]

wasnt the cat showing its head leas like a little bit ago

[icy plaza]

yeah we were talkinf about c.ai

[ebon karma]

OMG KAPPA

[grim moat]

it feel like they're doing april fool but this is too early to say about this

[reef dagger]

did it pop out more or is that just me

[icy plaza]

WAIR what does “speak about c.ai” entail

[bold zenith]

I clicked cat like 90 times

[grim moat]

lol

[icy plaza]

the browser or your chat experiences?

[reef dagger]

was it that entertaining

[bold zenith]

Yes
Yes it [___] was

[icy plaza]

guys what cat arewe speakinf about

[reef dagger]

the xar

[grim moat]

the cat in c.ai discord server profile

[icy plaza]

how do you mess up cat this badly

[bold zenith]

Cta

[reef dagger]

STO0😔

[icy plaza]

why do we have a cat there

[reef dagger]

its so buns

[grim moat]

idk, they probably love cats ehshjdajjsk

[bold zenith]

THE CAT BUTTON GONE NOOO

[opaque field]

So. Does anyone notice that bot could not fully reply message?

[grim moat]

yeah

[reef dagger]

[bold zenith]

I CANT PRESS CAT TO CAT

[reef dagger]

yea

i needs fart😔

[grim moat]

[opaque field]

No wonder why most people leave c.ai at this point...

It's getting f*cked up on every update

[reef dagger]

yea

i lov c.ai soo im not leabing

[cinder chasm]

i’ve been with c.ai since like 2 years and i don’t think im ready to part with it

[reef dagger]

i .ove ozzy osbourne

[reef dagger]

REAL

[cinder chasm]

i tried swapping apps but unironically every other ai app feels like i’m talking to the same ai, c.ai doesn’t have that issue

[grim moat]

i actually wanted to stay here because this server has a lot of funny c.ai users and it's much more funnier when they come to complain about it

[reef dagger]

what

[cinder chasm]

the cube UI HAS to go

[reef dagger]

LITERALLY, c.ai gets the personalities rightrt

[reef dagger]

its kinda peak..

[grim moat]

idk whats that but alr

[bold zenith]

C.ai probably has the best ai modal (model?) since it uses the same one chat gpt uses (I think)

[cinder chasm]

it’s the new UI for c.ai mobile app coming out, it sorts the recommended bots into a buncha cubes instead of the list, removing the small description along with being able to hold down on the AI to view character

and i have it early… i want to die

[reef dagger]

ewww

[opaque field]

Before fully release, Beta version feels more alive imo

[grim moat]

i dont think i have it yet in my website

[cinder chasm]

it’s like chai ui but if you couldn’t see the brief bio of the bots

[opaque field]

But now... It memories remain

[cinder chasm]

i don’t think it’s on browser, probably mobile app only

[reef dagger]

ATE THEY DOING THAT TO EVERYTHING? OR JUST RECOMMENDED

[cinder chasm]

luckily only recommended, the search stays the same but it’s still ass

[reef dagger]

🙏🏻🙏🏻

[reef dagger]

chai doesnt have the description either

[cinder chasm]

like how are you going to restrict the most important part of the AI’s chat???

[reef dagger]

REAL

[opaque field]

Kid mental issues... they said

[grim moat]

[cinder chasm]

and not only that, to see what the character is about you HAVE to start a new chat which fills up your flipping recent chats

[reef dagger]

i wish they expanded your recent chate

[barren coral]

whats the lil cat thingy they added?

NVM I CLICKED IT MORE

[dim laurel]

😭

I'm a sucker for lengthy characters, I like adding in a lot of details and quirks of my personas so the bots remember without needing to pin messages-

[prisma flare]

WHATS IT DO

[oak ice]

bro i physically gasped when i clicked it just do it you’ll see 🙏

[prisma flare]

got it

CHAT IT WONT DO IT

[oak ice]

how many times did u click it?

[warm quiver]

Do we know if we can turn the styles off?
I accidentally clicked it too many times and it's ruined everything....

[prisma flare]

uhhh like 3

[oak ice]

oh u have to click it like a bunch

[prisma flare]

ohhhhh k

[oak ice]

i dont think so :((

[prisma flare]

WOAHHHHH

[oak ice]

IKR

[warm quiver]

This is just cruel 😔

[oak ice]

just click it a ton youll find out

[molten carbon]

just click it

[warm quiver]

This (🤏) close to permanently moving to Crushon, ngl....
Like, what is this, honestly

[prisma flare]

i don’t even use character ai anymore im just here to watch the downfall

[molten carbon]

fr, l update

[oak ice]

LMAOOO

[warm quiver]

You're so real for that, dude

[dim laurel]

I'm low-key just staying in c.ai because I have like 3 bots with over 5k messages and I refuse to swap all that conversation into another app

[oak ice]

same fr

[warm quiver]

Wish I could relate but I get bored of a bot after like
100-500 messages

[opaque field]

I'm second that, tbh

[prisma flare]

i gave up waiting for the app to get better it couldn’t keep up with my 5 paragraph messages 💔 💔 💔

[dim laurel]

Like

I'm not redoing allat that's like 2/3 years worth of conversations and deep stories 😭

[desert tinsel]

Im making goku fight the baby oil man

[dim laurel]

I'm also staying bc the other apps don't have group chats lol

What I would give for 🚽 to have a group chat feature but they already said they don't have that on plans

[opaque field]

It didn't reply fully

[molten carbon]

try changing the style to roar

[opaque field]

So ye.... It fuc*ed up

[molten carbon]

it saves it a little

alright forget about it, this app is trash now

[warm quiver]

Man, C.AI doesn't want us to have opinions even on here
I got muted twice for the stupidest reason

[molten carbon]

the downfall bout to be crazy 😭

[warm quiver]

Frrr
Ruining their own community and for what?

[cursive jackal]

yo am i trip or the model option isn’t working like at fucking all now

[warm quiver]

It's broken already??? LMAO

[cursive jackal]

YES LMAO

[molten carbon]

u need to click that cat to unlock the new one, which is terrible ngl

[cursive jackal]

c.ai the new paywall simulator

[frail robin]

what else were they paywalling prior that free users didnt have?

[cursive jackal]

(apparently,, since i a. don’t use c.ai much and b. don’t use features) they limited the amount of words you can restrict, brainiac is now a c.ai + feature, yada yada.

[molten carbon]

what they were thinking when doing this change
like wtf

[frail robin]

right but before that. were there any features that were behind plus that gave subscribers an advantage compared to free users?

[cursive jackal]

how to get the most money off of lonely teenagers

[molten carbon]

🔥

[cursive jackal]

to be honest gang i don’t fucking know lol

[warm quiver]

Capitalism got them so hard

[molten carbon]

fr

[foggy quiver]

Not really, c.ai+ has always been trash 🤷‍♂️

[frail robin]

bro then idk what ur saying. this isnt an EA move by them bruv.

[warm quiver]

Character.EA

[cursive jackal]

aight brotha anyway i’m watching corykenshin soo i gots to go

[frail robin]

Okay and now they are making it better. So the new pivot is that they are being greedy?

[cursive jackal]

SAMURAI OUT

[molten carbon]

yo

[frail robin]

Swipes is 4 bucks a pop.

[shell ember]

CORYKENSHIN MENTIONED

[cursive jackal]

CUZ MY NAME IS CORYKENSHIN 🔥🔥

[foggy quiver]

Pretty much and it's still not much better but ig

[shell ember]

why did all of the bots go so out of character.. It hurts so much dude..

[foggy quiver]

it is, they hyped it up as if it was gonna be for ALL of us 😭

[frail robin]

What do you mean? Or u just dont want to pay and want everything to be free? Its fine to admit that.

[foggy quiver]

I'd pay if I felt I would get my money's worth (and I don't feel I would)

[frail robin]

We went from "c.ai is not worth subscribing to because the perks are bad" to "nah, they are being greedy."

There is no winning.

[frail robin]

thats ur prerogative. Its just that the pivot is funny to see from some of the people here.

[foggy quiver]

Cuz they add a good feature that's paywall locked it was a feature that should've just been an update to make the experience better

[frail robin]

Lmao. Proving my point.

What do you want them to place behind a paywall?

[warm quiver]

Things that aren't going to asbolutely destroy the experience for free users

[frail robin]

Do you think that everyone that uses Netflix should get 4k quality?

[foggy quiver]

Alright then just my opinion I guess 🤷‍♂️ I can appreciate their want to make money (even though they already make much money from selling the company to google) but if it was less costly and actually was better I'd buy it

[frail robin]

It wont lmao. Free user's experiences stay the same but those paying get a better one.

[foggy quiver]

Netflix still locks stuff away when you pay, so Netflix it's pretty garbage as well (unless you pay even more)

[opaque field]

They didn't care about you as long as you give them money

[frail robin]

1. c.ai is not owned by Google. Rather Google acquired its founders plus some veteran employees.
2. The subscription service costs just as much as Crunchyroll.

[foggy quiver]

I don't pay for crunchy roll?

[frail robin]

Thats not the question. Should everyone using Netflix, no matter the tier, get 1440p, 4k, 120 fps?

[foggy quiver]

No, but free users also shouldn't have to watch in 240p, if it was 1080 sure

[frail robin]

right but you get to watch a fck ton of shows for just the basic tier for Crunchyroll which is 10 dollars and is the point I am making. Does Netflix lock shows behind depending on the tier?

[frail robin]

But they arent? Is Prime and Flash bad?

Are they shtty models?

[foggy quiver]

Both services lock shows behind tiers? And Netflix raises it's prices often, I'm sure crunchy roll can and will and does often too

[frail robin]

If not, then Braniac is simply better but that doesnt mean that Prime and Flash are shit.

[foggy quiver]

All I've heard was negative feedback on Braniac, Flash is also not too good, but I expected that, Prime is just fine.

[frail robin]

Really? Are you sure ur not thinking of Amazon Prime that locks shows behind a paywall even with a subscription? Never seen Netflix do that. Which instances have they done that?

[foggy quiver]

Spiderman across the spider verse is one example

[frail robin]

Okay. I had all those films available to me at one point 🤷

Dont think Netflix has those movies anymore.

[foggy quiver]

Ok good for you? Netflix still has spider man across the spider verse, except for the cheaper plan (and other locked movies I've scrolled past)

Kinda getting off topic so I'm going to end things right here, have a good night or day 🫡

[frail robin]

Cant give everything like that. And its the same thing here.

cya!

[dusky quest]

Hai

[dense lantern]

chat, are we down or is my phone bugging

[opaque field]

Worst. They fuck it up

[dense lantern]

oh nvm, we good

[dusty veldt]

this bot i made is goated

[dense lantern]

me fr

[dusty veldt]

its actually kinda fun

[dense lantern]

idk if we're supposed to share bot links in here but slay

[dusty veldt]

well i have to be 18 to post in the damn share thing

[dense lantern]

ohhhh

[dusty veldt]

imma delete it tho cause im still testing it / making it better

just a short test tho

[dense lantern]

I feel like i finally have the hang of making bots

[dusty veldt]

im there but not there

[dense lantern]

it definitely takes some practice to get to a point you like lol

[old shell]

Cats, fun.

[dusty veldt]

yeah for this bot its fast paced but definitely detailed just too fast paced for me

[tawny flint]

I'm trying to find someone to speak to about the website not functioning due to the use of VPNs and Ad Blockers. Do you guys just hate them?

[dusty veldt]

me personally i can’t speak on that cause i use the app version of c ai so yeah

[crystal yacht]

Is anyone else not able to "New chat from here*?

[timber canopy]

sup everyone. new, sorry. I noticed a character I LOVE chatting with is gone and the page says "not available" does this mean it's been deleted or sum? please, i need my pookie i have so many saved chats

[dusty veldt]

so i experienced that a week ago and it took at day for it to come up / for some reason i could gc either it

[rapid hill]

I am able to access while use VPN.. I don’t know about ad blocker

[graceful zephyr]

Whar bot was it?

[rancid oyster]

It's very possible it was privated, it can't be deleted.

[tawny flint]

I'll check my ad blocker settings to see if that fixes the website.

[timber canopy]

it's honestly a very small bot, i think it has like 17 likes at most it's minecraft cc

[tawny flint]

I turned off ad blocker and the issue is still there. I can't choose my persona.

[dusty veldt]

also im still mad that i can’t make my bot public since im 17 but i can share it in character share since IM 17 like what to do

[graceful zephyr]

Wait next year and Tada 18

[dusty veldt]

ik but so far

[timber canopy]

my pookie noooooo 😭

[dusty veldt]

well this year sometime in september

[brazen gyro]

Is anyone else’s chats glitching? When I start a new conversation, the bot is sending a message in response to my last message from the old conversation

[dusty veldt]

just you i think

[rapid hill]

You know you did not need to give the app your real birthday .

[dusty veldt]

well yeah but still i didn’t think that they were gonna take away public

until the policy

and the fact they took away the delete thing

[opaque field]

Well, that's probably from pinned message you have there (Kinda buggy feature atm).

[dusty veldt]

my fav feature 💔

[opaque field]

Just unpin it then you're good to go. (It work most of the time but i don't think you should right now)

[brazen gyro]

I don’t use pinned messages

[opaque field]

They'd screw c.ai up with this non-sense cat things. And worst one? They didn't even care for it

[tawny flint]

Well, as far as I can tell everything is going to be broken as long as they keep using Cloudflare. That alone is preventing me from using the website correctly.

[summer void]

screw this app dude, 5 muted words were too low and they lowered it to 4 for free users

[dusty veldt]

omg bruh

[opaque field]

Yep. It's broken (the ai engine)

[dusty veldt]

CAI LISTEN TO US NO PAYWALL

[summer void]

i cant send the image since i dont know how to verify, but genuinely fuck corperate greed

[dusty veldt]

i did it i can share in the stupid thing i didn’t pick my roles

[timber canopy]

can't help but agree as a free user, I just kinda wish we could go back to the good ol' days where the site was great, paid user or not. I would love to have cai+ but man is it expensive where I'm from

[dusty veldt]

for me its 10$

[rapid hill]

What is cat thing

[summer void]

basic needs shouldn't be behind a paywall, fuck this app man holy hell

[rapid hill]

You’ll be fine

[timber canopy]

the thing is that 10$ for you is $200 for me and i just can't

[summer void]

nah im uninstalling it, i've been looking for a bigger excuse to leave besides the shitty persona limit

[dusty veldt]

200$??? i better get everything

[brazen gyro]

Also, from what I’ve seen, there’s no difference in the “chat modes” lol, all my bots are the exact same 🤷🏻 not a big deal to me, because I don’t particularly care, but the topic is up

[timber canopy]

yeah like- not even my water bill is so high

[dusty veldt]

but if yall interested in fantasy and what not yall can check out the character share channel since i can post

[opaque field]

They need money, i get it. But the thing is... how greedy they could be for those free and loyal users.

[summer void]

and, uninstalled

[dusty veldt]

they are both experimental so send feed back in dms

[timber canopy]

i mean i kinda do get it but i also don't because weren't they bought by google? also, yeah screwing things up for the free users that actually made your platform from the beginning is just a bad move

[dusty veldt]

yeah thats true someone should make a better cai

[ripe obsidian]

soooo.. anyone know anything more on the whole cat theme c.ai is doing?

[opaque field]

They're not. After the beta versin taken down, the whole community rage out due their downhill work

[timber canopy]

the thing is, there's better platforms but what makes cai good is the community and how much people contribute to it, especially people that make more "obscure" characters and fan characters

[errant arch]

cai does not need money bro they just got funded another 100 milly like a year ago 😭

[timber canopy]

oh thank goodness

[summer void]

they're just greedy asses, no more no less

[opaque field]

I'm not blaming the whole company who made this ai. But they've did something much worst that bring them so close 🤏 to their downfall

[errant arch]

for sure

[timber canopy]

to be sooo fair, servers and labor are expensive but be sooo fr they can't be THAT expensive. pure greed

[topaz nest]

Guys I hate to ask this because I'm sure that like hundreds of people have already asked but what is the cat button on a character's profile

[dusty veldt]

i mean ig

[timber canopy]

how had i not noticed this hol up

[opaque field]

And if they even dare to say it was APRIL FOOL. I'll not hestiate to uninstall this sh*t

[errant arch]

theyre not gonna go broke even if we all unsub theyre just gonna keep getting funded LOL

[summer void]

click it a bunch or smth

[topaz nest]

Ohh

[timber canopy]

chat, I don't have that

[summer void]

they add all these stupid features to try and distract their community, this company and app went downhill bro

[opaque field]

What, you think it was a surprise gift for us? Nah they don't.

Don't give your hope too damn high

[summer void]

"oh cool we have a cat yay" instead of "why the fuck are they lowering my general usability of the app"

[errant arch]

dont forget to leave a star rating if u have the app!

[timber canopy]

we hating but tbh we spitting facts

[summer void]

duh, already put a 1 star

[rapid hill]

The devs want to look quirky and unique but it looks bad

[timber epoch]

Is there a way to control my recommended bots cuz they've been absolutely terrible for quite some time now

[summer void]

quirky and unique? my brother in christ the only thing they've made unique is how to make an app as shitty as possible as fast as possible

[summer void]

nope, another issue i've complained about before is that the recommended section is useless

[rapid hill]

Wel Yea that’s my point

[errant arch]

i remember when the app launched it immediately went to 5 stars and overtime its gone down to 3 so we are making significant progress in letting them and everyone else know that we dont like the product

[summer void]

lmfao do you think they care bro?

[timber canopy]

man, the good old days before greed were so great. Yes, sometimes the servers weren't enough for so much people using it, but god do I miss how much devs used to listen to users

[timber epoch]

It used to be good cuz it would give me like comics bots or even manga bots now it's just pure dogwater

[errant arch]

they may not but anyone looking for chat bots will see that it has worse ratings than other ones

which inherently affects their greedy profit

[summer void]

i would use a diff one if they all didnt have worse LLM issues or were behind paywalls

[timber epoch]

Wdym greed? What do we have to pay for now?

[cosmic knoll]

How do I stop my chat from scrolling all the way up?

[normal jungle]

It’s awesome. It emotes on you

[errant arch]

even replika has a better rating than cai now thats how poorly received cai has got LOL

[summer void]

they lowered the number of muted words, put the extended persona limit update behind c.ai+ which people have been asking for for years, worsening LLM and they do jack shit about it

[timber canopy]

fr, now recommend feels like the same for everyone. like- no I don't want to chat with #yourmafiaboss, it's clearly not my thing, put it away

[summer void]

the list goes on brother, the list goes on

[errant arch]

ive been using the site since 2022 and it has never taken an upwards slope

[summer void]

ey same, but that time ends

[normal jungle]

No fr. I remember back before the app even existed. Prime times. And then…nothing ever got better

[timber epoch]

Fr like I don't wanna talk to LOVESICK classmate bro leave me alone 💔

[timber canopy]

the future looked so bright but turns out they were just holding a flashlight in our eyes

[errant arch]

fr

[summer void]

lmfao

[errant arch]

its definitely worth an outrage now more than ever that theyre locking an Actually Good Model behind a paywall

[timber epoch]

Yall gotta pay for the models??

[errant arch]

which costs 120$ a year

[opaque field]

Real!

[summer void]

and persona limit, and now muted words

[zinc birch]

They need to try to turn a profit

[timber epoch]

What is muted words?

[summer void]

brother didnt they get 100 mil this year

[errant arch]

the new improved one is being implemented for everybody

[timber canopy]

god i hate how expensive it is, especially for international users

[errant arch]

the lack of price sizing is very inconsiderate

[summer void]

this company is inconsiderate LMFAO

[rapid hill]

Sadly money that come from outside funding does not count as profit ,

[summer void]

imo getting bought out is a profit and a half

[opaque field]

Well, "120$/year seems cheap right?" No thanks, i'm better use that money for my own life.

[rapid hill]

Profit come from revenue

[summer void]

thats 3 fumos right there, or 2 triple A games

[timber canopy]

it's plain insulting. like- you're looking me in the eyes and telling me it's $200 a month? at that point just step on my face and kiss my grandma

[crystal flax]

at this point just use a banner ad for revenue 😭🙏

[summer void]

id take that over all this bullshit

[rapid hill]

And outside funding is usualy illegal to use outside its intenddd purposes

[timber canopy]

gee i wonder why they don't want it then

[opaque field]

For a college student like me, i'm better use that money to stay alive for next months

[summer void]

doesnt mean they need to flip off their own community to make a dime

[frail robin]

200? For what?

[timber epoch]

Has anyone found a way to change recommended bots PLEASE

[summer void]

lmfao, thats 288 instant ramen noodle cartons

[timber canopy]

DUDE I JUST CHECKED, ITS $250 THAT'S NOT 10 DOLLARS

[summer void]

you cant bro 💀

[timber canopy]

cai+ where i live

[frail robin]

how did they make this money? charity?

[summer void]

google bought them out

[topaz nest]

You can refresh it

[frail robin]

this narrative needs to die.

[drowsy vortex]

200/250 for cai+ ??? that's insane what the fuck 😭

[timber epoch]

😭 💔

[summer void]

it doesnt help bro trust me

[frail robin]

from where they live. Its actually 10 to 12 dollars (USD and CAD, respectively)

[opaque field]

It's useless, man

[summer void]

for a month iirc

price discrepency across countries is scummy as hell

[rapid hill]

Venture capital funding from a16z

[timber canopy]

exactly 😭 dude, not even Netflix insults me and my poverty that much

[frail robin]

they are not their investors anymore.

[rapid hill]

Well yes, but thats how much was raised .

[drowsy vortex]

I'm aware as an American it's cheaper here but still. that's just. wtf yk

[frail robin]

right but that was during 2023. they havent had anyone investing in them for almost a year.

[rapid hill]

I’m sure they have people investing in them but Yea

[crystal flax]

also 16 gallon tubs of ice cream

[timber canopy]

maybe because they don't use the money to actually improve their platform for users😭

[summer void]

SO TRUE, YOU CAN STRESS EAT INSTEAD OF C.AI+

[frail robin]

Maybe. But they arent raising as much money. No public info is available as of this year.

[rapid hill]

Yep

[frail robin]

All AI platforms run on a loss. It is just that expensive of an endeavor. Subscriptions is more of a side hassle that brings these platforms a big buck, but not enough to cover everything.

[summer void]

doesnt mean they should kick their free users in the shins and shit on their porch for simply being free users

[timber canopy]

dude for what cai+ is asking me to pay to have it, I can fr pay at least one of my bills and have some left over for a snack

[frail robin]

Its fine to just say that u want everything to be free.

[frail robin]

is the free experience being downgraded in any way, shape, capacity, degree, or form?

[rapid hill]

Should shouldn’t, doesn’t matter really that’s just not how a product works ,

[opaque field]

"Five hundred cigarettes"

-One of alien commander.

[summer void]

idm customization being paid, but shit that's widely asked for by the community for years being put behind a paywall is scummy

[crystal flax]

I could buy 4 miku Garfield plushies with that😔

[summer void]

they lowered muted words, slowed our response times

[timber canopy]

not saying that. I think it's good for platforms to have a little + for paying users, but not so much that normal users (most of ther users) are actively suffering

[frail robin]

? thats always been the case lul.

[frail robin]

how are free users suffering?

[summer void]

no you used to have 5 muted words and way, way faster response times than nowadays

[timber canopy]

fam how are we not

[crystal flax]

if that was the case its really dumb anyway???

[frail robin]

okay do u think that everyone should be able to watch movies in 4k, 120 fps in Netflix?

[summer void]

they lowered muted words to 4 for free users and added a preset delay before it even starts processing the request

[rapid hill]

Well..I’m sure you can take it up with the FTC or other consumer protection if you are suffering by …

[summer void]

brother this is not fucking netflix, i feel like you're just a plant from the devs or some shit

c.ai is not netflix. ai is not movies or theater showings

[timber canopy]

Netflix is already a paid platform and started out that way, so yes I expect to get the best quality possible which is what's advertised

[frail robin]

these people are fine with subscriptions without any of the incentives that comes with it, which is the very thing they have been complaining about.

[errant arch]

facts

[crystal flax]

what’s up with you and netflix quality this ain’t a video service it’s Ai chats😭😭😭🙏

[frail robin]

u cant understand comparisons?

[summer void]

we should be getting at least semi-useable quality. not this pisspoor shit

[crystal flax]

I can, but it’s a dumbass one

[rapid hill]

Idk this has been the basic business model of all fremium product for many years So I don’t understand why the complaints

[summer void]

brother its the worst comparison since apples and oranges

[timber canopy]

not when comparisons are objectively wrong, hope this helps

[frail robin]

c.ai is not worth subscribing because its shit
c.ai proceeds to add incentives, making it less shit
they are being greedy

🤷

[summer void]

when they start actively taking away features to put them behind a paywall, thats when it turns scummy

[frail robin]

ur being obtuse.

[summer void]

yeah no you're definitely just meatriding the devs since you pay for +

[frail robin]

yeah idk either lmao. look at them coming at me with pitchforks.

[summer void]

#🤣︱memes message

[errant arch]

playing the victim after being disagreed with once is insane

[rapid hill]

I’m going to be honest the + is barely worth it as it is … seem like they are trying to run their business

[frail robin]

lol.

[summer void]

they're actively stripping ease of access, you're cooking btw

[frail robin]

call up the squad.

[crystal flax]

that’s legit so dumb

[summer void]

it should be supplementary, not borderline required as they keep removing features from free users

[errant arch]

u are not the vigilante u think u r brother

[frail robin]

how is adding more stuff from the free features removing something?

[zinc birch]

Perhaps they are children who can't get jobs to buy cai+ even if they wanted to

[rapid hill]

Most freemium business model have garbage and barely complete product as free model.. or limited chats if using a Ai chat product example.. this far beyond that

[timber canopy]

actually.

cai is not subscribing because it's shit
cai proceeds to take away services from non-paying users and advertise them as plus features, trying to force people to pay to get the same experience they used to get for free with a couple flashy colors
they are being greedy

🤷

[summer void]

if you'd read, the limit used to be 5 on here, then was lowered to 4

#🤣︱memes message

[errant arch]

bro pulled out the 8$ twitter argument is insane

[frail robin]

not everything can be given for you man.

[summer void]

LMFAO

[timber canopy]

im not a math equation but go off

[summer void]

doesn't mean what was given should be stripped away dawg

[frail robin]

the second point is moot since they only added more words to the mute list as well as persona limit. they didnt take away shit.

[rapid hill]

Well.. people complained when unlimited image and video generate was locked behind GPT4. There no point in trying to quench some people’s thirst

[frail robin]

thats pretty telling if u dont know what "being obtuse" means.

[timber canopy]

how to make yourself look a fool in 3 simple steps

[summer void]

lowered the muted words limit from 5 to 4

you dont even pay attention lmfao

[frail robin]

look at them brother. just look man.

[timber canopy]

ever heard of sarcasm, big man?