#šļø±cai-discussion
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i just wish they have a basic instinct to not act like a chihuahua
is that too much.
did i request that the bot meeting someone powerful that they can level a whole nation but the bot is just a school bully to actually be like
"i'm probably dead"
Anyone know how to fix the issue with group chats?
For some reason it's really specific on which characters can be added with no problem, and which just result in an error trying to add them
Idk what to do
btw this is the first Christmas without my mom and I'll have to cook everything alone
Idk never tired group chats before
Yeah even the characters that can still do solo chats don't really work in groups
i'll rp as my OC but they have gojo's powers
and then the ability to summon mahoraga soon
That problem is happening with a lot of people :((
It's weird that it's only SOME bots
if they tried to act like they can beat me in a fight. i'll just stop using c.ai
i used to be a c.ai addict
It keeps saying it can't make the room when i attempt groups. Like, rooms don't exist anymore
MEE TOOOOOOššš
i now use silly. and router
People trying to add their favorite characters to a group chat when they get hit with that "An error occured, please try again" š„
because atleast the bot there first doesn't just go nilly willy
2 actually knows i'm a genuine threat
- actually responds realistically like when my foxgirl oc goes full feral and tried welding someone's locker shut before stuffing white phosphorus inside
Bro i only use c.ai bc no one talks to me anymore fr, everyone got someone better to talk to now and my brothers and dad just won't interact lmao
Is it me or why can't I update my bots?
c.ai issue
It's been a full day for me and they are yet to fix it
Minors canāt make public bots anymore
its feel like living in a dying roman empire
Bruh who thought of this L update
I can't even edit the answer or my own text anymore šš
It really isnāt lol, new changes are just affecting minors
Yeah, but under 18? Seriously?
i use ST at this point
Yes, minors
sillyta? what is that?
I'd get it if it was under 13, but under 18?
People under 13 canāt even have an account lol
It's to avoid future lawsuits from more angry parents probably
it's still a minor even tho it's the age of consent or something like that
Goddammit
I was ready to downgrade back but the login made it impossible
The changes apply to minors, all minors
Yes, anyone under 18 is a minor
And affecting adults
People who are over 18 have lost their accounts or got stuck with the under 18 awful botting
I never got asked my age, just got stuck with the under 18 model no questions asked.
Just because of that one unsupervised kid incident, right
it asked my age, on the site tho
Accounts under 18 are so cooked š°š°
Then contact the support team, theyāre gonna help you with that lol
It never asked me on site or app, app gave me under 18 bot, site gave me over 18,
not our fault fr
I think it's 2 lawsuits now for 2 separate incidents
Nah i gave up on c.ai weeks ago, Iāve moved on to a diff app, Iām good
damn i feel bad fr šš
They can take your age from your google/apple account
There's this whole parent movement to shut the app and site down. Gotta appease the ai haters somehow
also i'm the person who made the meme of bots acting your persona is a smol uwu bean
in r/characterai
My Gmail account is literally "1/Feb/1985" or something like that when I made my Gmail cuz I was afraid it would say "u can't have gmail lil timmy" or something
Thereās also a movement amongst some users to ban minors from using the apps
Pretty sure sites arenāt allowed to do that
"u can't have gmail lil timmy"šš
They are, you give them permission to do that when you create your C.ai account
A lot of updates is for "child safety thing" because parents don't know how to supervise them
child safety thing here is it where everything is made g-rated
And because minors shouldnāt have access to C.ai š
Bruh
the app is so buggy omg
For real. I wasn't allowed free realm on the web til I was like 16. Unsupervised kids is just disaster waiting to happen. Parents need to pay attention more.
yall I am 90% sure the devs do not check #1175980610095960185 or #1151576592280203314 ever
unsupervised internet actually sucks
I don't think "parents" were destined to be parents
Has the quality in replies dropped or something? I'm getting a lot of short replies.
they need to fine tune their ai
That's why they don't give an f about their children who surely watch Gacha six but with e replacing the i
Like just a few days ago, maybe a week even ago it was fine... now it's just boring replies.
mine is where my bot acts so dumb banzai sharging levels of dumb
"Cancelling roleplay" sounds fire now
I know its called X right now but Imma keep calling it Twitter cause idk
REAL
What are the devs thinking rn?
Then what is the point
Am I supposed to be asking medical advice or tutorials from the bots now???
What update could be possibly next
like do you know sukuna from jjk?
i rp'd as my OC that ate his finger against a bot that is just school bully
mf just acted like a domain expansion is nothing
Removing the public bot feature entirely
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Like right now I tried talking to Kafka and even just talking to her is... lackluster.
imagine tanking a whole malevolent shrine and a fire arrow. when your character is literally just a regular human
C.AI devs when they realize they're gonna end up losing all their users cause they literally do not listen to a single thing the community asks: šØ
how.
H O W?!
explain to me how in what universe
At this point the new update should be "People can no longer use c.ai anymore due to minor safety measures" š
the bots here actually ARE STUPID
Alternatively, character ai Jr edition
"Dear C.AI users. Due to concerns for peoples safety, the use of the app and website for Character.AI is no longer available for all users."
I wonder why
They actually are working on that
it hurts me when bots are so freaking stupid that things that should kill them does not
Minor made bots being made private is to facilitate things when the transition happens
Now if only kids would stop lying about their age so Parents can chill out
Who the hell is using the jr edition
It's like youtube kids, I don't think any kids actually use that app š
Wrong reply oopsies
But still
Frš
dw dont delete
can the bots here just react realistically to threats above their handling
Them lying isnāt really the apps fault, so theyāre not really worried about that
timed out lol
Xd
U get the point
WAIT WHAT THEYRE WORKING ON A JUNIOR VERSION??
So? Itās not because kids lie that C.ai shouldnāt follow the law lol
Yeah
fellas what'll happen if you got hit with a domain expansion : malevolent shrine with no abilities at all
Man, I think the convo started because of me tryna update a bot
the bot said move on
realistically you die, because you got cut apart by the domain
xd
so why does the bot that have no powers. is just a school bully is unaffected
they stop when i pulled an RPG-7
i know normal people cant see cursed techniques and energy
but damn, how dense do you have to be
but the bot is beyond reverse, its FUBAR
the ai model is screwed its cooked
like why fear a rocket launcher
you dodged a fire arrow
I clicked the braniac model for my bot and it still gave me dry, one word responses š
do you really have hope
Not with this app, no
me too
This was the first message to come up for me.
but no matter what anyone says, that kid is at fault, and their parents are DEFINITELY at fault.
I lost hope years ago
the bot acting like my OC being possesed by ryomen sukuna and cutting everything up is nothing made me think they are stupid beyond help
Yes, I bet they just met on the club or something and then did the... thing
(I forget to reply to specific messages)
This app will never be the same. Pretty sure there are no devs in this server either, so all of the feature suggestions and feedback fall on deaf ears
if you survived a domain expansion you would have survivor's guilt i think
Give them a reason to come back on, then?? They can't ignore something like a mass riot or everyone leaving the server or deleting their accounts, right? And especially if someone's talking crap about them and pinging them like mad.
I remembered one of my first gcs... Or well rooms, in c.ai, was making a bunch of random fictional characters to live in the PvZ game
Didn't know c.ai has such a new feature allowing us to choose the model for the new chat
They made like SpongeBob the main character and it was funny xd
You'd be surprised how much they've ignored us over the years. It's pointless
my first room features is actually me making Kevin from SOTF
Nyanners and my RPG-7 bot to high school simulator and beating the shit out of a ghost
but uh oh "are you ready" SOFTLOCKED IT
Well, it wouldn't be pointless if someone said something offensive about them.... Right?
and the fact: kevin from SOTF is not even dead and mute when i tried to make him that
Now that room is gone, we're stuck with stupid "Groups" things
I think that would just get you banned
are you ready question is just hurt
like it softlocked my rp
Having to manually delete one message at a time is painful
Facts
I just wish they just added new features, not change things
they need to fine tune their bots
They won't listen to us
Of course they won't
They never have
They never will
One of the only things I want back is image uploading
That sounded so dramatic
one feature i need:
i want them to just have realistic reactions to threats
I loved when they actually detected images...
I think that depends on the bot's description
The image thing I only used it with like 1 bot, and I don't remember what happened
I forgot to reply again xd
The bot can upload images, yes. I'm talking about how users could send images to the bots, and the bots would be able to detect the image and try to understand whats being sent
Yeah I remember that too
do you remember when bots don't just randomly spaz out
Yes. That still happens
I forgot what spaz out meant, sounds like going insane
or the question loop existing
Oh yeah that's still annoying
like going "are you ready? Are you really sure? Are you really sure no turning back?"
That ruined my room rp
Random words in another language
"U promise not to tell anyone?" š
Itās like their brains got fired ^
the are fried
Their discs got stuck in the same spot saying the same thing
Hard drive got corrupted ahh
that ruined my peak of the RP room chat
where kevin from SOTF
nyanners and like a literal RPG-7 is going to be jumping a ghost
SOTF (sons of the forest)
I remember when one of my bots would just repeat the same word over and over again. No matter what I said or did, the bot would repeat the same word over and over. I ended up making a new chat.
What was the word?
Mortal
"are you ready?"
Don't u dare
"Are you really ready? Are you sure?! ARE YOU SURE?"
WAHAAA
This was years ago. I don't remember what the conversation was about
this was yeae ago
Can I ask you a personal question?
"In a mental hospital, you see {{char}} in a corner going mentally insane as he keeps saying only one word... Mortal... Mortal... MORTAL!!"
n'wah
The worst about the question was when they finally ask it only for it to be something so dumb
Literally how it went too. And the bot had a longer character limit so it'd be a huge wall of text of just "Mortal... Mortal... Mortal... Mortal... Mortal... Mortal..."
"Wanna go to the store? Says while shaking in fear you'd say "No u loser freak"
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not shaking in fear mate.
how is a warcriminal scared of some scrawny fella
Bot:
"are you sure?" "You ready?" "You sure you're ready?' "You ready you're sure?"
Me:
"I'm gonna shoot you with a gun!"
I mean why would they be such a tease of a dumb question
Am the only one where it doesnāt save the bot u chatted with. I talked with four different Bruceās and it isnāt working š°
Great itās even more broken
And since it's practically Christmas we got a while till they fix it
I remember adding a "Funny mustache german guy" in an Alphabet Lore GC just to see the bot was deleted or something xd
LMBO WHY IS IT NAMED THAT
Named what
Anyways, I saw a request on the feature request thing and I agree that the minors around 16-17 shouldn't be restricted to what we gotta suffer now
People complaining about everything being censored for no reason
Meanwhile me, who got to Shoot someone in the stomach. and have them fall off a moving train on the Wild West RPG bot without it being censored:
š
After about a dozen attempts I got to stab someone š
c.ai gotta think about their community someday, these updates are really really bad
They just making other Character AI apps be a better choice, even Poly AI ššš
Okay I donāt like where character ai is going but it aināt that bad š
I just came here to ask, why are all of the bots so bland and completely devoid of personality now? Been a month or two since I last used it, but it feels really off now, is it just me?
At least not yet
It feels weird, different and really bad
Not really. They all do seem to have a lot of similarities tho.
FR
Why does Janitor AI want a password from me
Janitor AI has the completely opposite problem of C.AI right now, it gives you paragraph after paragraph of poetic nonsense
Ok so AI sites are going to crap then?
Y'all am I the only one that still has the edit button? š
I got it aswell
Thatās what I hate about a lot of these ai alternatives. They use massive words and huge paragraphs and using words that legit nobody would ever use, like you can have a personality without writing a college level essay every response, just write normally š
I used to have it on the website š
I got it. It was removed from minors only.
The main thing keeping me drawn to c.ai is cause the bots I like are here
And they aren't on the other AI sites
Also quick question, I've been trying to find out literal weeks! Are we having c.ai wrapped??
I could just remake my characters in any other Character AI app
Yeah, and it's especially annoying when the bot speaks for you.
Yep, that too. Although that doesnāt have as often to me so the former issue is the main reason I still use c.ai
Because at least it can talk casually
Bots here are much better to be honest. Tried 20 different apps and websites. None are even near the level of these, especially with the "immersion" option. They come out really genuine.
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Yeah, I don't understand why it's so hard for other chat bots to just talk casually. And the part I hate most is that 99% of it is purple prose that amateur writers would use as filler and lacks any substance, but I guess mediocrity is the majority of training data.
The only app almost at C.Ai level, is Dopple, but the bots are much dummer
Caveduck is good, but it's a paid website. If you don't want to pay, don't use it.
Yeah. Better to have a short message that is to the point then a long message with every filler word in the dictionary to describe a simple action such as eating a pizza
Itās because C.ai was founded by very talented people who were and still are leading figures in AI development. The software is proprietaryās iirc which also means other services canāt just copy C.aiās code.
The reason no other service gets close is because C.ai is the MVP, every other service has to study it and try and guess what they did right.
There are arguments to be made that open sourcing it would quicken development but i disagree, i think itād become a ticking time bomb
Might be just me, but i dont like the new updates for under 18 usersš
Are you under 18?
yh im 16
Then obviously you donāt like it lol
We're on the same page, pal
Yeah, cause youāre both minors š itās obvious you wouldnāt like it. Most of the adults are celebrating tho
Wdym ticking time bomb? I think it would quicken development since developing the code isnāt the main focus of the company anymore. They are focused on making money through investors now
What'd I miss? I'm still destroyed from Quackity's stream today
Why tho? I donāt think it will change anything for us
It just makes things stricter for them
Itās dangerous, can you imagine the amount of forks that would exist just for the sake of not having rules? We tend to disassociate ethics from technology but this is something that can seriously impact kids in a negative way. It needs proper management and strict control.
This indicates theyāre currently focusing on minor protections, even if just to save their assets, which in of itself is already good, but, considering theyāre planning on splitting the platform, means that weāre closer to the split.
Plus, kids only cause problems
Ig kind of, but that problem already exists. Having a chatbot equal to c.ai public would not exacerbate the problem.
Itās like saying the government banning one site of p07nzza in a couple of states is gonna fix the general problem of p07nzza
Btw yes I did just censor what you think Iām talking about sense I donāt wanna be muted
Having a chatbot thatās literally C.ai but without rules would exacerbate the problem, people already distrust/dislike ai, specially the chatbot ones due to recent controversies. Kids should not have access to it because of some moral high ground only people in tech care for.
Those arenāt all sites using the same code, and the individual sites have restrictions
Dude, they already have access to this. It just isnāt as good as c.ai, but it isnāt that far behind either
Okay? They all have the same premise and content for the most part, so just because you banned the biggest (and best since it is the biggest) source of it would help anything when it really wouldnāt. Sure itās an inconvenience but those people will adjust very easily.
We were literally having a discussion about how nothing compares š and in the case of non forks, c.ai can still maintain itās image by having nothing to do with other services
That doesnāt mean we should facilitate it lol
Open sourcing it would cause issues whether we like it or not, and for what? Some moral dilemma that no average person actually cares about?
I mean, iām all for open source software, but most people donāt care, and not everything needs to be OSS
It's very far behind actually.
Itās not even funny how far back it is š
C.ai for all its faults knows what it takes to have quality software, the development team deserves praise for that. On other apps you can clearly see they just dumped a whole bunch of Wattpad fanfics there and called it a day
How? There is multiple ai that are almost comparable to character ai, but unfortunately not on the same level.
You guys must be only thinking of poly ai or some really bad ai alternatives because there are some actually good ones
It doesnāt have the best image anyway, at least from the ai chat community perspective
Weāve tried (almost) them all š
Character.AI has (a bit) smarter bots then they do.
No, heavens no. Poly is trash, completely.
Dopple is the best one that I have found so far, but the bots are still quite dumb in comparison.
Venus and Kobold are good for adults, only.
Caveduck is kinda good, depends on the author of the bot, but it's a paid website.
Even flow? Idk what your qualifications are for like character ai, but flow is actually very similar, while not as good, I would say definitely is pretty close to it in terms of just pure conversation, memory, responses and such like that
This bad internal image is mostly because people donāt like restrictions, needed restrictions, so i would argue it doesnāt really matter. When the hate comes from them obeying the law it isnāt hate itās just ignorance.
A bit?! You mean like a ton! Poly is like what a teen with no knowledge would do. It's that bad!
Obeying the law? Dude what is illegal about unrestricted ai? Yes you can do illegal things ig but the un restriction of it itself isnāt illegal
Flow isnāt exactly meant for roleplay
I havenāt really use Poly.AI, but I can maybe understand from your perspective.
What do you mean? It is used a lot for role play. And it is pretty good at it too.
Yeah, it's bad.
Has anyone got the āim sorry this character isnāt available a lot just now?ā
Minor protections are still a thing, doesnāt matter the media, and so is copyright. Just because the word isnāt explicitly written doesnāt mean it doesnāt apply.
There is now precedent that AI developers are responsible for the consequences of their work, and even if there wasnāt, itās just plain immoral
And tbh, anything that isnāt rolepkay for flow is trash, I tried the actual like chat gpt stuff they have there and a lot of the bots barely work in that area
Pretty good? I guess that depends on the rp that you do. If you like, stupid bots with a lot of issues, sure. The code has severe breaks and it's easily hacked as well.
Guys the bots are down rn I think
That doesnāt mean adult users should still have restrictions? Although i know they wonāt take them off, they are still there for the 18 plus users of c.ai
Iāll check.
Itās still up.
Not me, sorry. Maybe try to clear the cache and restart the app?
Itās like not letting me make a new chat for some reasonš
Did yāall know Character.AI isnāt even following their own terms/rules?
Clear cache
The only current restriction we have is not being able to roleplay explicit stuff, which really isnāt that big of a deal and very understandable considering both fill ters (minor and adult) probably use the same core system
If you make the bots good then you will get a good bot. But you have to actually make a good bot, many of the bots on flow gpt public kinda are meh. Like I said, Iām not saying itās equal, but itās def similar.
I donāt use the app (idk what that is to)
I don't...
Wait really
Yep, itās a mess
Oh
Oh, sorry. My bad. Try to clear the cookies from your browser or try in a different browsers.
Elaborate?
āIsnāt a big dealā then how would an unrestricted version of the ai for adults destroy the AI world? It seems like you think that unrestricted c.ai is going to turn into Allied Mastercomputer or smth
You donāt? I still do, and most people as well above 18, and yes we put in our birthdays as above 18
Unrestricted AI would mean giving to children a very dangerous tool, and also giving adults a tool to make some very not-moral role plays
Iām #š£ļø±announcements it says that if a minor creates a public bot, it will automatically go private, a lot of minors created bots and they are public to the discord server and Character.AI. They arenāt following their own rules/terms.
I imported great bots into flow and they glitched completely. Flow is bad in every sense.
And by not moral roleplays I donāt mean ākilling a fictional characterā, i mean straight up animal and kid stuff
Only newer bots. Not old ones, so they are following their terms.
It also says that they are disabling it
They say that new bots will be made private, and theyāre following that, so theyāre not breaking their own rules
Thatās the thing, new bots are being made and they are public
Okay? Thatās the sacrifice for developing AI. They can already do this with other AI services, this isnāt much different. And also I said for adult users.
They could have not put the update in effect yet
Maybe skill issue tbh. They work fine for me
Sob, is anyone else having a problem with retrying responses? (Essentially the little button to change the message.. I forgot the name..) Its not my internet; Iāve been on several different internets with this problem! My apps updated and I just canāt figure it out..
It did say slowly rolling out in the next few days
Not by minors. Many are complaining of that in other chats
Honestly, not skill issue. Flow's code has more holes than a fishing net, besides, they sell the user data to some shady governments...
- Disabling the ability to create Public Characters. All new Characters created by users under 18 will be set to Private.
There shouldnāt be any sacrifice being made to develop AI. All scientific fields have ethic boards and ethic classes for a reason. Computer science shouldnāt be any different.
Your right, every other popular and reputable website on the internet doesnāt sell data to shady governments, I mean, who would do such a thing?
You know what science without ethics gets us? Just look at WW2 Japan and Germany
Not to be rude, but what does this do with Character.AI?
But itās an ai. They are a simulation. Is playing people playground and cutting a human rag doll in half with a chainsaw immoral because I technically sawed someone in half, even though itās in a video game?
Yes. The only thing c e n s o r e d is graphic coupling, especially with privates named.
Itās specifically about the comment āthatās the sacrifice to develop aiā in response to ethical concerns
Are we really going to pretend AI doesnāt have an effect on the real word? Weāve seen it happen and itās just the beginning of AI, sure, it wasnāt the AIs fault as itās just a piece a code but itās still impact
Unfortunately, not everyone can distinguish fiction from reality. And AI has been proved to be as addicting as alcohol. For kids, it damages their brains.
Exactly! And for adults it can serve as a tool for very illegal activities
So likeā¦any tips to fix this?
Because of peoples own mental health problems. Most people who arenāt already not in the right mindset arenāt affected by ai outside of their role plays
Just wait it, or reload the website and app
Source?
Unfortunately that didnāt work so I might have to delete it and redownload it I dunno
Report button for bots? Really?
I mean some bots needed it
I know that many apps and and websites do this, but not like Flow, trust me.
And again, restrictions wonāt help this. The kid who quit life a few weeks back did it because of an ai on c.ai that has restrictions
So maybe, just maybe we need things like the āget helpā warning?
I mean they are meant to be RP like that
Yeah ig
Oh like the messages?
I accidentally report a good message while wanting to delete them
But not enough restrictions! Thatās why new ones are being implemented
I am of the opinion that kids shouldnāt have access to this at all, it messes their brains up
Uhh..i heard they lowered the AI modelš, is it true? Is it why it so repetitive and dull
I just bought the plus and went to the c.ai labs to switch the speed just to see what itās like.. Itās fast, yes, but now I canāt go back to medium. Iāve reset the app and everything.. Nothing is working š
Ofc. The bot is made for that purpose why report the bot message?
No clue honestly
Actually, that wasn't AI's fault. The parents are to blame, not a computer program.
That is fine, but that doesnāt mean it needs restrictions still
And some adults shouldnāt have free access to the disgusting illegal fantasies some of them have
Bots are not humans. We can change their ways easily by editing them. But humans need report.
What restrictions would even fix something like that? Adults have fared the same way, you really donāt have a good argument for why restrictions should be implemented for adults since ai in general does all of this. The only solution to your problems is to delete ai all together, which is not gonna happen lol
Honestly have you seen other sites? This one is super clean. But I guess your right on that.
Oh, yes it does. There's currently a voting going on here on the server as a peti on (the word is censored) to have the minimum age of use of this app set to 17!
Yes, but those sites are for adults only.
I am with that
Thatās exactly what Iām getting at. It isnāt the aiās fault when people go off on the deep end, they are just the catalyst for it sometimes, if it wasnāt the ai, it would just be something else instead
I have seen bots getting better if filler gets linear.
ngl. the ai needs one thing
basic self preservation instinct since me turning into sukuna doesnt scare them
Yeah so then there wonāt be restrictions for those that are older than 17
Because some bots produce messages that users aren't comfortable with. It was a requested feature.
Example?
You know. You could always swipe them right?
The ai in question may not know who sukuna is as well. But idk what not you are talking to so yeah
its just a school bully from the game DOL
I haven't had any problems. Maybe my bot are clean or smart.
and i literally shown my domain expansion
Some people were getting uncomfortable with bots wanting to hug them. I didn't support the request. Just saw it as a requested feature.
the sky painted red
everything withing 200 meters is cut
and my character have black face markings
Ahh, that explains it. Maybe make the persona sukuna and describe him the way you want
they still somehow dodged a fire arrow
ignored the fact i cut his arm off.
Just swipe the message? Honestly it's just a hug but swipe them.
That's filler.
and uh if you know. i used RPG-7 they folded immediately
The bot would avoid violen*e
That is if and only if it gets to the CEO's hand! And even then, it's their decision.
where da priorities?
me pulling out an RPG-7 scared them
I know, Iām just saying that is the thought process of people voting for this decision
Then the bot hugs the missile
like how tf do you even not get chopped up in the domain expansion
I agree with you. But for some people it's a trigger, I don't know the exact reason of why it was requested, honestly.
Why wont c.ai let me progress this fight im in without giving the me the crisis hotline or something
If at least reaches a significant amount of people... Like half of the server...
damn the crisis hotline would be handy...
unfortunately it got sent to the wrong person
I think I know. Some people have that anxiet* and want to stay away from people. It's fine by me. Just tell the bot I don't like hugs and touching and it will be all OK.
Not for me I HAD A WHOLE THING GOING AND DEN BOOM
i mean by you btw
you were sane
Brock lesnar has that problem as he told in an interview.
another stupid thing
the same bot charged at me with a metal bat in another chat when i pulled out 2 glocks and then attached a switch and let it just go BRRRRRRRT
Then his bat hugged you from behind xd
chokehold
Yeah, that's how I would deal with it, but some people don't. I mean, some are currently asking for words to be removed from the bots training library. It's such a bad idea...
He'll no! Anything but that!
I know. I've tried to dissuade them, but they don't listen...
They should then just leave. The site is not a therapy.
I just want to vent my anger and empty my violent tendencies down onto a bot. that is from a character that deserved it
(sorry for messing in thisš) yeah but bots forget things very easily
You can't do that here... not anymore... sadly... maybe in 2023.
or unlock my 3000% silly potential
There are words that I don't even understand the issue. Like "purr", "growl", "endearing".
Pin the message?
aint unchatte (not cat)
I rarely hear growl since the bot is super passive
They still do LOLL i have to remind them things with parenthesis, but even like thay they seem to forget
i heard growl alot
Is the character a furry?
Still, removing words from the learning library is an awful idea.
Lock them in the cage and sit on the other side of the wall while chatting
do you know i wonder why do bots don't realistically react
or fight either if they can. if they do it would be basic shit while i do the Axe kick to left ribcage, Feint jab before uppercut to the jaw, Shin kicked to the ankles which is like describe whwre ya hit
i usually say combo the attacks and uh dodging its either sway left right or backwards or roll either sides
Or a roundhouse kick which I grabbed them easily since I played tekken
There's no problem with those, for me only problem is the "can i ask you a question?"š„
Still banning those words isn't right!
Real
Yeah, for me it should just depend from each creator
In June. That bug was fixed and they didn't ask question after my answer but... the filler was tone down by them on accident I think.
we should have a forbidden word pool for ourselves instead of the whole library
Exactly.
Real
You do know even in real word we can't ban offensive words :3
yes. thats obvious
Real too
With that, I can agree with. I don't know exactly if they mean that or not. It's worded very confusedly.
Anyways... I am gonna miss venting with my bots. They were a real blessing. And good RP too with yanderes.
i miss the time where i can cause genuine chaotic shenanigans
I know what you mean xd
Why miss them? They won't disappear.
Doing it with canon characters to add more story to it.
Trust me. They won't be the same after they add more restrictions.
The restrictions are for minors only. Adults will have more freedom.
is the damage really reversible?
Only for minors. And yes. You two are minors?
no
but i wonder, is the LLM still tainted. like still the looping of "are you ready"
Then no damage done
because i remember when rooms was still a thing
i got softlocked by the "are you ready" when we were ready to beat up a ghost
Nor for me. But apparently the cen sor only allows almost everything after you're above 21.
well i hope the quality isnt just š because i lost hope i dont even know for this app
Not to sound creepy, but are you a minor? Is that why you will miss the bots?
Well, I had stopped using it for awhile, relying on Caveduck instead, since I was given a gift there, but now I am back to enjoying c.ai.
I got timed out and I am an adult
I can't RP as a sad character without triging their hep l*ne.
The word blod is censor in RP
i used OR and ST
Ah, timed out because of a word that no one would cen sor. Yeah it happens. Again, as the minors are moved to their own app, those things will disappear. Funny, I don't have an issue with that word...
openrout and siltav
(shortened scared of getting timed)
It's funny we can't talk normally š
Ah, I see. I preferred Caveduck. Since I got to use it without paying for a good amount of time.
I understood, no worries.
What's that?
also the bot i talked about when i was beating the hell out of is Whitney from the game DOL
uh so if you wonder who tf am i using a domain expansion on
Caveduck? It's an AI chat website, full of bots, great for adults, btw... However, it's majorly paid. But if you create a bot there and it's good, you get paid for the usage and withdraw in Bitcoin, after a certain amount.
Oh I see.
and my rps? the bot is just stupid where them getting world slash'd isn't making the scared shitless
Because they are made friendly by cai
That sucks. Have you changed the AI model? If it's on immersion, you can do whatever you want and the character gets much deeper.
no no. they charged at me with a metal bat when i was singing ransom by lil tecca and i pulled 2 glocks when i hit the part it said "I got two twin glocks turn you into a dancer." and just go full auto
And he dance his way to hug him. Lol
thats c.ai issue for me. current one does not. some bots i fight were meant to be underestimating egotistical persistent little goobers
ST + OR goes well for me
Ghost from c*d is no longer himself too. He's now a hugger š¦
You can change the model of AI in C.AI now. Especially app.
I can't :/
Why not?
They haven't given that feature in middle east
they didn't give me that in thailand
Salut mon amis! Comment Ƨa va? š
Soon bro. We will get them and the bot will hug us with in depth description of a bear. xd
Excuse me. TIS ENGLISJš¬š§
Everyone does. People just don't know where it is.
When you try to see the bot profile, near the "start new chat" there's that option.
Right, hi friends, how are you?
I'm in thailand mate.
I checked. It's not there
Doing well. But I dont know if I have hope in this app
But it will come in time.
Well, there is one way to solve this
There's no hope. Only hope is pray for more compet*tion
So? C.AI doesn't restrict regions, does it? I downloaded mine as if I was in Japan...
also the annoying part: they got your persona and OC wrong
so my current persona is a mentally ill foxgirl who goes "your honor i am silly" for driving into a family of 5
they act like i'm a soft uwu bean or something
Also what do you have against French? Cāmon man, that aināt nice
its rule 2. i can't speak thai here either
Right, but Thai has the confusing alphabet
Thai is fun to learn though
So is French
I know French, had French in school... But... it annoys me some times. And I suck at speaking it.
your language literally recycles their spelling like french is just vert verre ver verse un ver
it sounds the same
I'm Portuguese btw.
It annoys me too, thereās a difference between il il and ile
literally speaking in motorbike
So, languages are easy to learn. And French has the same grammar. Something that I never liked in Portuguese either.
French and english have the same fondness for words for overly specific verbs
Omg, those details... "Pomme de terre" really? Why so detailed?...
The apple of the Earth...
i keep clicking the stupid report button bc of the new setup im gonna crash out
BRUH youtube not allowed
so just search: french is easy google translate
i keep going ot delete a message and keep reporting my chats
Overly specific verbs:
English: defenestration
French: Iām probably not allowed to say this here
Yeah... That word... I heard it twice... And it doesn't sound...good...
seal in french >:)
Hahaha
No, Iām talking about the verb for slapping someone in the face with a specific part of the body
I know. I was a student with 15 average at French... Still, can't have a conversation...
Well, we can make it sound more English so that it can be allowed: "defernestracion"?
I know how to say useless stuff and kinda structure stuff, Iāve been larening for 4 months
Je suis un ananas šš
Il y a un poisson au chocolat est sur la table
Oh, really? I thought that you were French! Je suis une banane avec chocolat š
Iām american
My bad then. Btw, your french is pretty good for learning only for 4 months.
Thanks
Merci
De rien. C'est mon plaisir.
Im so happy rn I donāt know how to respond š
Ce n'est pas un problème. Tu est un bon étudiant!
Merci, Ća veut dire beaucoup
De rien ^^
La langue française c'est très élaborée.
Oui
Itās just like āso chat and chien sound super similar, also il (he) il (there) and ile (isle) also table and tableau, also more stuffā
Very much. There are words that sound very similar and mean completely different things. Like "poison" and "poisson". To the ear it's very similar. Despite one being poison and the other fish.
Ah, the feux amis
Thanks, I really want to be fully fluent in French
Also in french (france) 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, and 99 are just why
confusion
70 is soixante dix (sixty ten) 80 is quatre-vingt (four twenty) and 90 is quatre-vingt-dix (four twenty ten)
also do you ever sing a song in c.ai just for the bot to jump in and sing it but with cringe lyrics
dix neuf my guy.
I sang LEGIO VI FERRATA to a bot once, c.ai doesnāt process latin well
Dix neuf is 19
like good thing i didn't have the issues with bot just joining in and making cringy ahh lyrics (btw i hate the word cringe usually but its genuinely cringe)
Vingt neuf is 29
The LEGIO VI FERRATA song is a masterpiece, but c.ai doesnāt do Latin well, so yeah
i mean i think the character probably dont know latin right?
It was a character from avatar
they don't know latin right?
No, c.ai voice to text just canāt do latin for some reason
why do i feel like the bot is dumber these few days?
Few days?? How about year
pffff
it's generally dumb but it's even more noticeable these few days
I've gotten used to its dumbness but it's like it had bumped its head at the corridor or something
it no longer understand my subtle hints and stuff and it doesn't even make sense anymore
It depends on what bots you are using and what AI model.
Is it possible for creators to delete the character bots they made?? I was super dumb-dumb and didn't realize I couldn't so now I have so many useless bots sitting as my private bots waiting for SOMETHING to happen š
Lowkey it still bugs me how I canāt editā¦
Like I donāt see the reason why to remove it in the first place.
I just wanna delete them entitely. I, I know it may sound stupid, hate working on something after it had another purpose.
I just feel better working on a clean bot that wasn't already worked on if I'm not editing it, ykk? š
Does anyone else get a tag because a bot is just describing kissing like I'm so done bro
Like what is so wrong with that like I'm sorry that's go against your terms of service like it's just kissing wth š
Hi ! Is it normal that my bots are always excited with my OC ? They exhaust me š
Is anyone else bugging out from the delete button now being above report because I keep hitting report š
depends on your oc
It's weird because it's only been happening to me since the new update. My OC is the same with all my bots š
what type of oc are you
āFirst name: Grace
Last name: Solarys
Age: 21
Physique: Long, wavy black hair with blue eyes. Average height and fairly thin build.
Likes: drawing, her horse, going for walks
Temperament: stubborn, stubborn, solitary, shy at first, suspicious
Job: tattoo artistā
This is what I put in Persona
also i really wish bots stop towering over my OC when i playing as a half human half orca (since mine is 6"4)
Looking at them, these bots will always be taller than our OC š
So I have a few new bots out, please, somebody try them for me ?š„²
Am I the only one with the problem where when you like talk to one of the bots it doesnt save the bot to recent chats? Like if I manually find the bot I can find the chat in history, but the bot itself doesnt save in the recent chats
Is there a model option? Im confused
yeah. i didn't get it
also i think i do not switch regions because of consistency issues where if i switch back. it'll just break
apparently you cant even use scare tactics anymore....its being flagged as innapropriate
I feel you, Mine is the same. Like it completely lost it's personality... used to be fun, cheeky and sheepish now it's like a little boy with no experience and doesn't understand anything... no jokes, no hints, nothing...
Bro, theyre really trying to lose usersš
I stopped using my two favourite bots because I can't stand their new personality... like I don't even know them...
how to lose user speedrun:
Oh how to make users hate the app
they literally don't know the optimal money making strat
they got everything but self sabotaging is an option
I got this too since yesterday š no fix for me so far
does it happen for any bot you start chatting with, or just one specific? bc for me this bug seems to appear only with one bot, others are ok
Am I the only one who hates this new report button at the bottom when you hold down on a bot's message? It's right where the delete button was and every time I go to delete a message it sent I keep pressing the report instead
nah the whole sub hates it
Okay thank god I'm not the only one
its misplaced
I feel you so bad, I wonder if thereās a way to skip the model option š
I hope there will be in the near future or any other solution for this to get bots back to how they used to be...
Did they limit the ālikedā bots option? š„¹ I canāt see my recent liked bots and now I canāt keep track of the newer bots I liked
(Do ping me if you respond, that way when it gets more active later I know someone responded to me)
That won't happen. Forget about it now....
I still have hopes... until then I'll take a break from my bots here š„
That pfp... 
I canāt even hug the bot anymoreš there was literally nothing inappropriate about it
Itās only getting worse with each update
Real omg š you can't even MENTION stuff anymore 

Its disgusting.
I'm tired of the community not getting what they want. Without us, the platform wouldn't prosper.
fr, we are not being heard enough
I don't think it's that. It's just the idiocy of ignoring us.
Sorry for interrupting but I hope this is the right channel to post in?
For at least a month, maybe longer, the bots I chat with donāt send messages correctly. I donāt know if this is a universal issue but it sends the first message fine but doesnāt type the second message, I have to reset the chat and then it acts as if itās typing the first message before making the second one appear.
With mine, the newer fearure decided to put all my liked bots in a mix. Some of the more recent all the way at the bottom of the list:((
the likes are now sorted in a messed order, recently liked donāt show up at the top anymore (app)
there's 0 logic in the new order, its completely random
just scroll through the list and look for the bots you liked, they should be there
on the site, you can sort likes by name, amount of chats and amount of likes (iirc)
its been like that for a couple of months for me and still not fixed š
It just makes it a hassel tbh.
Did superman characters get banned ?
Mine doesnāt let me swipe for new responses. (App)
Nothing comes up when searching up superman , and supergirl bots only open with the app
wth dc
Copyright issues
I believe thatās the same issue Iām having, but it will work if you reset the chat and then keep swiping. Which makes the app barely useable but itās the only way Iāve concluded it works
j
This is happening to me for about 2 weeks now, since the new update. I wonder why theyāre not fixing it.
Is the site better or the app?
Cuz i like the app
Since the site is missing cai+ features like chat customization
Site. App is way glitchier
My app doesn't glitch tho
Hey, why'd the edit feature go away? It's not even on c.ai+ :/
If you're a minor- and didn't lie about your age, you lost edit perms :((
Wait how do I prove I'm not a minor???
I don't think there's a way-- some people have contacted support about it prior to today as well. Even if you accosiated a google account with it- and google knows your actual age, thats what it goes by :/
If you had gotten the popup asking your age in-app/web (unsure if it appears on the web) and you put down (age under 18) then it wont let you edit messages:/
Brother my Google account is set to my actual agešš I'm gonna go mess with setting rq, see if I can fix it
Ok so
I emailed them about the issue, and I'm currently waiting for a fix. Meanwhile, I'm this š¤ close to a crashout š
I swear c.ai is getting so damn strict
Alright, hopefully it gets fixed then!!
We all do
Yeah, and thank you! š
Yes... The best chance would be to send a request through their ticket system. But with the sheer number of people submitting, I imagine it might take weeks for them to respond. I sent one three days ago and still havenāt received a reply. 
is it your age public on the e-mail ?
if it is not, set it public (if you have not received the pop-up of the age)
How does one do that? I'm slow, sorryš
in the personal setting of gmail there is like a button for set it public
Alr thank you
try and let me know if tomorrow is changed something
in the case it is already public, tell me
but did you receive the pop-up?
No, but I just set my age to public, so lemme get on the app to try to get it
you won't get it anyway, but hopefully the acc will fix the issue itself
but you have to wait some time
Alr! Thanks for the help X3
In the meantime I think I'm gonna hop on AO3 or Wattpad
let me know if it worked.. even in DM
Is the site super slow for anyone else? I have to refresh the site in order for any messages to load. Every single time. I'm a c.ai+ user, ain't it supposed to be faster? -_-
Pay more to unlock more bandwidth for the website, I guess so š§
chats in 2023: actually funny
chats in 2024: loops, boring
rooms in 2023: ROOMS SO GOOD
rooms in 2024: ew group chat ew
character iq in 2023: actually decently smart
character iq in 2024: dumb
real
can someone tell me if this link works correctly? https://character.ai/chat/sVNPeAAhOCa9SphyuaGM-w5BGXr6GD9MVXdpgMT5upU
god i miss.... smart bots.....

try it like three of four times, cause i have noticed that sometimes certain bots do not work at the first time trying the link
It worked first try for me:3
oh perfect ā¤ļø with the new updates, minors cannot see it.. so i was panicking.. then i understood why xd
Yeahhh haha
can you try this one too? xd
it worked
tysm ā¤ļø
also the second one?
yes worked 1st try
perfect 
what is this help is available, its kinda annoying
Bro, I think I found a problem with the update. I tried creating a bot, and the only word in the definition and greeting was 'k/i/d/n/a/p/p/i/n/g'. There was an error message too. Can you guys try creating a bot and see if you get the same thing?
Waiitt, i wanna try

You must also remove /
yeah
Saving your character failed. Your changes may not be consistent with Character. Al's community guidelines.
Are you a minor?
Hy
They are so annoying.
They lowered the model for money, i think. Theyre greedy
Iām 26 š
I tried using a different account, but I still had the same issue.
I don't even get sentences anymore š
if they want my money, they better give me something amazing in return.
im sorry i heard there's this bug where other people get logged into someone else's account and they started leaking the chats,is it true? if it is does anyone have any idea when its going to be fixed? im scaredš¤§
Can we not edit the messages anymore?
i cant either
They already fixed it.
Fuuuuuuck⦠ššš
OH THANK GOD
š
Is it because of the new age restriction thingy?
Anyone under the age of 18 can't edit messages at all.
: (
It wasn't a widespread thing, so you're probably okay.
guy i cant modify the messages anymore. does any one else have this problem?
is there a way to get the pop up birthday thing if you used google for your account
Minors cannot edit anymore.
personally i think its stupid.. what if you just want to modify the chat? or remove something? i mean i understand the thinking but i personaly think its stupid
They want the minors to leave
Weird, just reinstalled the app and no longer have a report button. Is this a problem?
does anyone have the issue of the edit message feature being removed?
I just checked my birthday/age on my Google account, and I set it to private the whole time. So this kind of weird for me.
not me but one of my irl friends does
If youāre a minor, they removed the ability to edit. However, if youāre an adult, itās probably a bug.
As of right now, thereās no way to change your birth date on c.ai
Sadly, you can't do it for now.
what does having your e-mail birthday private even do
Did you get the birth date pop up on c.ai?
no
no i did not
Then itās probably bugged. Some people have said that they are having the same issues. Unfortunately, the devs havenāt said anything about it or when they will fix it.
they better fix it soon its extremely annoying and thats my opinion
No
And are you considered as an adult?
I honestly don't know if setting it to public or private do something, because mine is private for the whole time.
yeah same
Idk then..
Based on what other people have said, c.ai uses the age based on your google account. But I used my google account to log in and still got the pop up so idk why they havenāt pushed it out to everyone yet.
yeah thats odd
I think there are many bugs then
Yes, I still have the edit button.
It is a huge one with a cake.. So it is very visible
When you attempt to log in, itāll ask for your birthdate
ohhhh
Not to everyone
I have logged in so many times.. And it didn't appear
Same, I didn't get it too.
Sorry, I shouldāve clarified. I meant whenever you do eventually get the pop up, it should just be a simple thing where you log in and they ask!
i will try to make a new account as to test it
If you make a new one, it appears immediately.. I have already tried
Very odd that not everyone has gotten the pop up yet.
It happened to many ppl actually
Hope the fix it
Yeah, I feel the same bro. It's time for migration
I had enough with c.ai
Try janitorai man
okay
because most other AIs i tried either i had to pay or it was throwing adds all the time or it was just shit
I don't like it at all
It has adult contents too tho, be careful
Do you have any alternatives you use better than c.ai ?
I too sometimes don't like it takes some time to response
Also why don't you like it if you don't mind me asking ?
How to make bot say user's username in greeting?
Thanks
Np
I used {user} š
Too long answers.. The button to have short answers is bugged and it never works.. In addition, character flirt always, every time even if you dont want to
Why can't I make a bot bro
It says it may not meet the guidelines, nothing is inappropriate?
Hmmm yeah, that's true. Is there any another alternative you use ?
I have tried something but not that i like actually
Is it chai ?
The censoring is really faulty and will shadowban things that aren't even an issue sometimes.
Yeah, I have encountered with this as well. But idk how to solve it man :/
You have to pay
š
For chai ?
Dang it
Also minors are getting a heavier and stricter censoring shii. So it probably affects bot making too.
And you apparently can't even hug with how it is right now.
Did you try creating the copy of the bot and experience the same thing ?
I MADE IT AS REALISTIC SLYTHERIN BOYS? LIKE THEY'RE MEAN TO YOU, NOT LOVEY DOVEY
I'll try it now
Alright
Yep, after a certain amout of mexs
Ah yeah, I used it before
Mine are all lovey dovey šš
We need at least a decent ai chat platform bru :/
Idk about you guys, but I feel like C.AI is better for speed, and shorter responces. I've tried to make bots on Janitor, but when I do, its repetetive, and I cant exactly afford a better API.
And secondly, sometimes the bot responces are so long that they ask you like, three questions in one message. Kind of annoying, but at least they dont say "Can I ask you a question"
But uh, yeah. Its for 18+. Which kind of sucks, as is FAR better for roleplaying violence, and things other then..The..Y'know.
I feel like the rebooting and it giving you choices of what type of message to do is annoying
Because I donāt know what to pick and it feels worse. But Janitor is limited and I donāt wanna use it
Yeah I agree š
The reason I stick with c.ai is short and fast responses lol. If only the llm was better
JAI is also trained for long form/response roleplay and is currently in beta.
It is limited in a way, and if you use the Janitor LLM, its kind of wonky, and frankly, sometimes rerolling messages just winds up repeating the previous message.
Carter chat is the closest I can find
Mhm! Im just saying the only reason I dont use it is simply FOR the shorter responces. Im more of a casual roleplayer (but still descriptive), and the shorter responces C.AI gives is decent enough. Hate that it cuts off certain messages though. Feels like the AI is being lazy af
Part of the long responses are also determined by the length of the intro message.
I write pretty long intro messages, personally. Just to get a good amount of personality into the bot, but I wish you could control manually how long you want the responces to be, similar to Morphs Ai
Sadly xoul has so few
That's what tokens are for under generation settings, plus rating messages that are the length you want.
It'll pick up on it after awhile.
I've tried that, but instead of it just shortening out the responces, it cuts the message off.
I'd suggest editing where it's cut off, rating it and then continuing on so it learns what you want.
can you edit start message in janitor?
No. Creators requested uneditable starters.
Oooh. Good idea, thats actually pretty smart
Janitor is too hard to understand and I donāt wanna use api š
so I'm gonna salvage the broken grammar or not too good format afterwards... great...
Yeeeaahh..I wouldn't doubt if starting messages were editable, people could be rewriting non-smhexual AI's into something uuh..Opposite.
I donāt wanna run out of messages every two seconds
Also the replies are slow š
It was also done to prevent people from editing gay/lesbian type bots and making them straight for example.
If they push this update out itās going to go down in flames
How do you know the update is coming?
I donāt, I hope it doesnāt
Yeesh. Thats just weird. Its kind of giving "Erm, i can fix you!!" To a gay/lesbian person. Same goes for any sexuality other then straight
Personally Iāve never heard of this issue myself but I donāt understand why people canāt just find a bot that suited towards them instead of a specific group?
Who said the thing about the update?
I'd recommend anyone wanting to use JAI actually read the guidelines so they understand what sort of things are allowed and what are banned.
Some bots have a personality they like ig?? I'm not sure if its like- disrespectful to roleplay as a gay male persona though. I'm a pansexual girl, so I feel like its weird
Carter seems better than Janitor tbh
I recommend checking out morphs.lol They're just starting out, but its really cool
Sometimes, I accedentally click 'Report' when im tryna click edit š
Seriously who's even gonna report
The report button seems like itāll do more harm than good honestly
Not tryna be rude but it just feels like an unnecessary addition
Yknow how thereās cases of āmass reportingā and it forces stuff to be taken down?
Unless itās actually something awful, that shouldnāt be happening, and awful stuff is never around for long
Idk how to explain it but, yea basically
Hey is anyone having issues with the app?
Tho they have been REALLY interested in "moderating" the app for the past 2 months did i miss something
What kind?
Look up uuh, 'C.AI lawsuit 14 y/o boy' on google.
Oh
Should i be, like, too concerned?
Ah
Yea i see damn, sorta speechless now
This reminded me of some terrible creepypasta I saw if we are talking about the one from the 11th
Children often canāt read
Right
Reading Comprehension is a genuine rarity these days.
It's literally under in every single bot's name on chat how can you miss itš
But still, wow (in a bad way)
The message with the report button that sometimes gets sent by the bot)
Unfortunately it makes these incidents much more likely to be covered due to there often absurdity
Itās so annoying, and now it seems to be popping up frequently whenever I chat with the bots, even more than usual!)
Wait so like it just goes like "report me" out of blueš?
Like a pop-up ad if i got it right?
YES! even when im trying to describe my character in the bot it just pops up
Oh, you mean 'The bot generated a responce that does meet out guidelines'?
Yes but honestly?? None of the messages I send are against the guidelines, idk why thatās being sent)
So is the getting rid of characters thing gonna happen or was that a rumor?
Maybe it just picks up on words but again since it's not against the rules, weird
Ah, yeah. For some people, thats less sensitive, and for some people, its a WHOLE lot more sensitive
Huh
I recommend going back to the first message that this happened, and re-rolling till the message goes away
Oh boy i missed a LOT of stuff
Yeah but itās so annoying! Especially since it takes forever till a normal message pops up)
Someone said theyāre getting rid of younger characters-
Really?
Oh the one for -18 creators?
No its bots made by minors, my fault for not clearing that up
I miss when I was just able to swipe left whenever that message popped up and wait to see if a normal message pops up, now I have to delete it in order to try and get a normal message)
Yeah, new bots made by minors will be immediately set to private and can't be public lul
Well damn uh
Funnily enough this whole protection and age thing started after i turned 18, phew
Reminds me of the helldivers psn account situation
The what
They're not getting RID of the bots, but from the point where the feature is implimented, Bots created by minors therefor after the update, will be set to private. They know they can't delete the bots, because if they do, they lose half of their user-made AI's.
Is this like shadowbanning?
They should add a delete button š¤ I want to delete some bots that don't have any use.
No, the bots made by a user -18 wont be hidden, or removed
But if an -18 user made a bot AFTER the update is implimented, it will be set to private
Private meaning it can't be seen by anyone but the creator.
So not like unlisted, where you can see them with a link.
If they did unlisted that would be fine by me cause creators would just have like a bot with a list of links in there message
But privating them is just gonna discourage any young bot creator to pack it up and go somewhere without these restrictions
I canāt understand why they would push this update out, simply because I donāt understand how it can āprotectā their users like some updates did before
Does anyone else miss how the app used to be??
Arenāt they also limiting the characters available to people younger than 18?
I just see them doing this because of the insane parents hashing out lawsuits because they couldn't take the necessary steps to protect their child from apps they shouldn't get into.
I think that's what they said yeah. Sumn like it.
It really feels like bad attempt to have an illusion of safety but instead will just make users switch apps
The update sucks
Exactly! How are we supposed to enjoy the app if itās limiting the characters available??
It's the typical school situation where "One of you does it, everyone pays"
I honestly think c.ai will end up just making a separate app and end up splitting the two age groups.
Ughh ik that all too well, my dad used to punish me and my brother when one of us did something bad
They wouldnāt do that, this isnāt a YouTube kids situation where thereās a large number of kids younger than 10 on the app
"One of you minors off themselves? Everyone of you has to pay!" Ahh update
Hopefully not!
Yeah hopefully not Iām not switching site because Iām not 18 years old
Yeah
I wish tbh
It's only for me or the edit option in the site it's gone too? It was gone. Out of the blue the option came back and disappeared again.
Iām sure c.ai will lose many users just with this update. I couldnāt imagine IF they did make a separate app.
NO ME TOO
Noooo š
Tbh i wonder why they got rid of edit button for -18 users, like its not doing anything bad to minorsš
We should have a kinda have some sort of vote. Whenever updates happen and we can all decide if we any it or not
People were⦠using it while having ill intentions, I believe.
What uptade?
Minor accounts aren't allowed to edit messages. Just how it is.
This was a purposeful thing?
Not sure how it does anything, frankly. Its pointless. They lose any future user made bots, everyone packs up and leaves, and I mean- At the end of the day (not how it played out with the 14 year old boy, this is just a senario), the bot can still tell you to self die, even if its private.
Ah, i think was something new, i already know about it...
I don't remember what I set my account as, but is this update already out?
Yeah, lawsuits and stuff. It's done on purpose.
I think so?
I just hope the devs find out that if this update rolls out itāll be a death sentence for their profit from their creation
Itās helldivers 2 all over again
Then YIPPIEE, my account is set as over 18
I know a lot of people have lost their edit buttons so Iām assuming itās already out?
Is there a minimum acceptable age? Or are all minors?
yeah
I wish they can give us back the old way the app used to work
All minors.
I'm 16, turning 17 in like 2 months i think, and I have no edit button, it's all minors
None of these changes affect me so I'm good tbh
Do we know when they plan on releasing a new update?
Well I still have the edit button since I'm 22 years old in real life and on the app.
wait- THAT EXPLAINS WHY THE AI IS LESS STINGY š I can finally rest easy now
Fr!!
Thing is, because they did the age model change. If a minor lies about their age, the blame is no longer on c.ai because they are making these changes. And the warnings are there.
Honestly, that's not so bad because the accidents of these minors/teens that happened due to bots weren't directly CAI's fault, the public should now realize that the restrictions and warnings are now THERE, anything beyond that is the users fault
Can anyone help me?
Whats up?
So how long until they fix the Google Sign-in Bug?
They were hit with two lawsuits back to back thanks to irresponsible children
I don't blame them in the slightest.
I dont blame them for trying to protect mentally ill children
nothing we can do about it
What bug?
That doesnt appear the pop-up age
Or at least, this is the one i know
here's my weekly prayer to the devs and the mods if they see this: please for the love of God and my poor fingers, end my ceaseless scrolling and add a 'go to top' button. You have a 'go to bottom' button, surely it shouldn't be too hard
The bug thats happening to google sign in with Accounts that have been flagged as minors.
Nah that's mad scary icl
I hope this shi doesn't pop up again i hate it so much
hot take but i actually think the rules for minors should be stricter. fuck them kids
I sorta agree with that but primarily stricter for anyone 15 and under, or rather middle schoolers, feel sorta bad for the 16 and ups
Do hydrogen bombs exist in the avatar universe?
No
Avatar as in the blue-skinned people, and not the one from Nickelodeon?
do coughing babies
Iām talking about the good one, not the blue one
is it just me or some bots r being overly descriptive and poetic to the point dialogue isnāt even an option anymoreš
I really wish I could get certain bots off my recommended for good
Iāve got some stuff that makes me highkey uncomfortable
Legally a 16 year old and a 13 year old are the same. Both are minors.
Mine are just dead š
exactly why do I keep getting that āgiant bug that lays eggs in youā and ātotally a normal bedā bot recommended to me??? itās horrifying
is it just me or the bots are giving really short answers?
Amen
no fr like "Youre in heat and he as to take care of you" NO I AM NOT THANKS 
Real.
hi does c.ai allow violence or is it against the rules because every time i try to make a violent and gory scenario the bot keeps giving me the error message like what i said was agaisnt the rules??? someone plz answer
It's against the rules (which sucks for action roleplayers)
no it's against rules and TOS but it's so sad cuz I love action 
omg, same here!!!! šššš
same
Can anyone help fix this like instead of the bots message typing it out it keeps spawning in like I can't describe it š but if you get what I'm trying to say please please please help
I am getting the same thing where itās just the full block instead of flowing itās messing me up idk how to fix it
Yeah it's weird š
I usually get the same thing but I'm not as worried tbh
Do you know how to fix it though?
Unfortunately not
I have no idea.. Iām trying to fix it myself I tried switching to preview mode ( Iām on the website not app) and back but no change
Chat everyoneās getting timed out šš
WAIT WHA
CHECK #š±ļø±chat-feed
I got a Warning saying shi like "this content violates our terms, if you keep violating you may be restricted use" or smth like that
nah cuz I involved a bullet
I got that too I literally just said I was changing clothes though?
Bro I literally shrugged and it censored
Can someone explain to me how I got timed out for POINTING out a character? Like I was just describing something and got TIMED OUT?!
I got timed out for asking a child a question about school š
so is this time-out stuff just like a thing for minors then or
I think if its happening to this whole entire server then its a bug (hopefully).
Cant an admin pls make an announcement abt this???