🛠 New UI Discussion

[west falcon]

hello, this is a channel for people to talk about the new UI and get specific help/workarounds with plugin incompatibilities with it.

Feel free to send quickCSS patches or rant about how good/bad the new UI is

[austere granite]

Hello

Thank you

[north wedge]

new ui = premium garbage right out of the walmart parking lot

[wheat pasture]

i just want to know which specific experiment they're talking about here https://discord.com/channels/1015060230222131221/1354170031373553776

[west falcon]

It's the experiment to disable the new ui

[restive frost]

desktop visual refresh disables it for now

[wheat pasture]

found it

[west falcon]

I think it's good it just has some minor issues

[north wedge]

everything about it is bad

[woven crater]

Personally I don't have any plugin broken with the new UI, just the css snippets, but most of them are not even necessary with the new ui

[restive frost]

I've gotten a little used to it by now but some areas are too big imo
and then the server icons are so small now

[wheat pasture]

yeah

[tame musk]

ive been using the experiment for a couple of weeks and got used to it after a few days

[wheat pasture]

and they added a stupid bar at the top

[supple mountain]

this honestly isnt terrible

[west falcon]

Same but betterfolders is cooked 💔

[prime plinth]

The horizontal servers list got busted.... 😢

[supple mountain]

p much my only issue

[restive frost]

oh god rip

[west falcon]

Same here lol

[wheat pasture]

also no themes yet so there's that

[west falcon]

Once they fix that I'm perfectly fine with the new ui

[north wedge]

real I dont want dual top bar because im using linux

[restive frost]

opera gx theme still works

[west falcon]

You can use the nitro themes

use the plugin for fake nitro

[woven crater]

for icons use this #🎨-css-snippets message

[west falcon]

to get access to them

[restive frost]

amoled theme is a little okay with the onyx appearance

[wheat pasture]

no nitro theme is in the color palette i want

[woven crater]

uhm that's not happening to me

[west falcon]

Wtf

send me your config

[wheat pasture]

unless they let us change the colors in the app itself, i need to rely on css

[prime plinth]

amoled doesnt work either cuz some areas are not amoled colored anymore

[west falcon]

Enabled Plugins (56):

AlwaysAnimate, BetterFolders, BetterGifAltText, BetterGifPicker, BetterUploadButton, BiggerStreamPreview, BlurNSFW, ClearURLs, ClientTheme, Dearrow, Decor, DontRoundMyTimestamps, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FavoriteEmojiFirst, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, GameActivityToggle, GreetStickerPicker, iLoveSpam, ImplicitRelationships, KeepCurrentChannel, MemberCount, MessageClickActions, MessageTags, MutualGroupDMs, NewGuildSettings, NoBlockedMessages, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoOnboardingDelay, NoProfileThemes, OnePingPerDM, OpenInApp, PermissionsViewer, petpet, PictureInPicture, PlainFolderIcon, QuickReply, RelationshipNotifier, RevealAllSpoilers, ReverseImageSearch, SecretRingToneEnabler, SendTimestamps, ServerInfo, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, SilentTyping, StreamerModeOnStream, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, UserVoiceShow, ValidUser, VcNarrator, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster

[woven crater]

how

[west falcon]

What do you have toggled here

[woven crater]

I don't use betterfolders

[west falcon]

Oh

It's only a problem if you do

The only way is to disable it rn

unless there was an actual fix for it I am not aware of

[wanton bane]

just wanna chip in my 2 cents and say that plain folder icons plugin is broken on its own as well, not just a betterfolders thing (i don't use betterfolders)

it's unfortunate how many plugins broke cause honestly the new ui isn't that bad

[valid peak]

Transparency is also broken with the new ui :/

[woven crater]

I want to send a snippet to css snippets but idk how :/

[west falcon]

they dont allow you to

just send it here

[supple mountain]

status icons don't show up in threads unless you click on profiles (they work fine in regular channels)

[pseudo stirrup]

#📩-modmail

[west falcon]

Wtf lmao

[pseudo stirrup]

don't say something if you don't know what you're talking about

[west falcon]

💔

[pseudo stirrup]

🛠 New UI Discussion

[west falcon]

Oh is it

what platform are you on

[valid peak]

Arch linux

[pseudo stirrup]

also do not redirect people to this thread for support. they should keep asking in the main channel

[west falcon]

Bananenlimousine told me to

[pseudo stirrup]

nevermind then

[valid peak]

could be my theme also, but i don't have a lot of time to chec, have exam tomorrow 😅

[west falcon]

I was asked to make a thread for new ui discussion and support

[valid peak]

but with my trusty transparency theme with reverting the experiments, transparency works, with the new ui it is not transparent anymore but has a black bg

[west falcon]

Yes

[pseudo stirrup]

[vencord-support] is for support
this thread for discussing it generally

[west falcon]

hmm, not sure

a lot of themes are broken rn

Is it a custom theme specifically

[west falcon]

i dont think I ever redirected people here for support btw but ty for the heads up

[valid peak]

this is my current theme, works with the old ui using the experiments workaround, but is black on the new one. I just modified frostedGlass Theme a bit to make it transparent iirc. Could just be that some css has to be changed, need to test further tomorrow

[west falcon]

electron transparency on linux is weird as hell, i do know that

[prime plinth]

So the suggestion/solution with the experiments plugin for restoring the older UI and restoring the functionality of the themes i used.
I currently use the Amoled and Horizontal servers list themes.

[west falcon]

yea a lot of the issues with the new ui in particular are gonna be to just disable it for now

for anyone not in the know here are instructions to disable new ui: #🏥-vencord-support-🏥 message

[marsh vault]

i dont despise the new UI it's just that everything is so square

its like they went back 10 yrs despite this push to make everything modernized lol

the spacing between server icons is so jaring

[prime plinth]

Man... first the gnome 48 update shot up my extensions (just two of them, but the most essential lol) and now discord is being discord again 🤦‍♂️ 🤣

[west falcon]

Oh yeah I just noticed that the icons don't round out when you hover on them

that is strange

[worthy ivy]

we need a plugin that reverts this fucking update

[west falcon]

there is

#🏥-vencord-support-🏥 message

[prime plinth]

there is a temp solution for now

[west falcon]

use the experiments plugin and disable the new ui

[prime plinth]

is pretty straight forward.

[pseudo stirrup]

guhnome moment ❤️

[worthy ivy]

we need permament one

[pseudo stirrup]

won't be. get used to it

[prime plinth]

indeed 🤣

[pseudo stirrup]

discord will inevitably remove the experiment

[marsh vault]

does the pronouns plugin work only after clicking someones profile or is that a bug coming from the discord update

[pseudo stirrup]

should i start a DE war and tell you to hop on plasma

[west falcon]

gnome is fucking awesome, stock theme is just ugly

[pseudo stirrup]

always happened

[marsh vault]

gotchua

[prime plinth]

no war needed 🤣

But regarding the GUI. I hope the custom themes get update to the new one so that in case Discord shut off the experiments, we got a fallback to that or better said it will be then the default.

[valid peak]

just curious, is this new UI roled out to every discord user, or are they just doing A/B testing with it?

[pseudo stirrup]

100% rollout

that's why we got so many people in support

[west falcon]

hot take fellas, best DE is aqua/quartz 😎

[pseudo stirrup]

you're right

macOS ❤️

[west falcon]

❤️

darwin for life

[ionic lodge]

12 days.....

[valid peak]

oof, well at least us vesktop users can still enjoy the old one

[west falcon]

forgor to restart

thanks for the reminder

lmfao

[ionic lodge]

tbh

[paper plover]

if someone knows how to do that but in a clean way i would like it a lot c: (swap the chat input and the message for slowmode/user typing)

[west falcon]

My cache files are crammed

[ionic lodge]

i dont do that same lol

i close my macbook and forget abt it for days

[west falcon]

real

tbh with mac u dont rlly need to

its just useful when you do a lot of dev work because the cpu cache can get clogged real bad sometimes

[ionic lodge]

ok real question

[west falcon]

mac makes heavy use of swap

[ionic lodge]

what browser do u use

[west falcon]

arc

[ionic lodge]

W

as u should right answer

i use it on everything

[west falcon]

I use zen on windows tho cuz arc on windows is trash lmao

[ionic lodge]

nah zen feels so bad for me

[west falcon]

It just needs some config

but i know exactly why u think that

I installed it on mac and I was like, hellll nah 5 mins in and uninstalled

it's great on windows tho

[ionic lodge]

and its firefox based missing like decent features

like translate

[west falcon]

Real, i lowkey love firefox but arc is the only reason i use chromium

zen has issues but it's still better than whatever tf browser company was smoking when they ported to windows

Maybe when dia crashes and burns they will know who their true userbase is

[ionic lodge]

i want like orion to come to windows

[prime plinth]

zen is cool tho... but still a lot of work to do there.
My current main browser is Cachy Browser which is firefox based.

[west falcon]

Zen is fine for me, i dont browse much on windows anyways since i mostly use it for gaming

i have the keybinds set up to be like arc

and its good enough

cheff does a lot of work fixing the weird ui issues and its gotten a lot more usable

[ionic lodge]

u forgot the i use arch btw 🙄

[west falcon]

real

I could never get into linux

tried it a couple times and couldnt be committed to install on my primary partition

never found a distro i liked, they all suck in unique ways

[prime plinth]

I mean today its not that much of a flex saying that @ionic lodge

[ionic lodge]

i think i could use linux if i had qemu and only used windows

[west falcon]

real, 99% of steamos users automatically "i use arch, btw" by default

[ionic lodge]

did u even follow the docs and build arch ur self??

gosh dude not even a real arch gigachad

[west falcon]

Biggest turn off for me with linux is no adobe product support (i use it a lot for school and work) and I don't have time for the whole "pick and choose your DE, guys!!!" thing

macos and windows both have gorgeous DEs by default with minimal effort

[pseudo stirrup]

KDE on top

[west falcon]

and have compatibility with every app under the sun

[prime plinth]

do i read sarcasm here? 🤣 @ionic lodge
Calamares installer on cachy goes brr and i can relax 🤣

[west falcon]

I am a grass toucher and I do not have time for linux

i need a computer that works and works well

[ionic lodge]

only time i use linux is for website even for building things rdp the way

just cuz minigw sucks

[west falcon]

i use linux regularly in headless server environments

its absolutely goated for that

but as a desktop computer..... ehhhh

it's mid

it's great if you like web browsing and customizing your terminal all day, i guess

thats like 60% of linux users anyways

[ionic lodge]

fr lol

[west falcon]

mac is my work machine, it gets shit done and gets it done well

[ionic lodge]

see id use linux for everything related to what i do just ofc minigw just doesnt support anything

[west falcon]

and i play minecraft and tf2 on my windows machine

i need nothing else

[prime plinth]

Well i can game just fine and i am not getting nagged on like on windows all the time.

[west falcon]

i dont have a place for linux in my life

i do use all 3 OSes though, just at different times and in different contexts

i use my mac most of the time for general purpose work/school/dev/chill/media

i go on my windows pc when i want to game

and i use linux when running cloud servers

i use each os for what they are precisely good at

zen is a cool browser how it offers a unique experience on each platform uniformly, and it backbones on firefox sync to make your tabs consistent

but it just doesnt beat the absolute sheer VC investment dump UX vomit that is arc

[prime plinth]

Well i am comfortable on CachyOS for doing all of that. Sure its not totally perfect, but in my opinion its a way better experience than on a total orwell-windows. But thats just me.

[west falcon]

What is cachyOS Ive never heard of it

[prime plinth]

An Arch-linux based distrobution.

[west falcon]

Oh

I like steamos for arch

I just have stock steamos on my steam deck

it's swag

@ionic lodge Do you think arc is ever gonna remove ublock

[prime plinth]

there is an alternative called BazziteOS which delivers steamOS like experience on generic devices (in better terms: Desktops), its Fedora based.

[ionic lodge]

i use homeassistant

so i just use that

with adguard

[west falcon]

Is it a v3 plugin tho

Chrome is removing adblock plugins

[ionic lodge]

its dns based

[west falcon]

arc hasn't enabled it yet tho

Ohh

Smart

I like ublock because it can also block elements specifically

but I know it's not for everyone

especially with google fighting to take it down

[prime plinth]

yeah ublock is great.

[west falcon]

I had a pihole but it kept lagging out and killing the entire network

[prime plinth]

that tool is a big middle finger to that corpo lol

[west falcon]

my fam was not cool witrh it

[prime plinth]

then use a more beefy mini pc... like the thinkcentres M series from lenovo. decent performance for low bucks

[west falcon]

Good idea

Isnt the new raspberry pi pretty good though?

I heard it got hella upgraded specs

You just cant find it anywhere for sale last time I checked

[prime plinth]

Thats why i am suggesting refurbished small form factor pcs like i said before

[west falcon]

Yea

I just wondered if it would be worth it on a new pi

I will take your recommendation tho ty

[prime plinth]

youre welcome 😉

[untold current]

tf happened to discord, this new ui is horrible

[woven crater]

I need this so bad, if someone has the css please share it

Seamless Chat bar css snippet is not going to be updated so... Hopefully someone shares that one

[untold current]

transparent background is broken too

[woven crater]

idk about transparency, I just want a seamless chat bar css but for the new ui

[woven crater]

where did you get that pic from? do you have the css?

[paper plover]

#🏥-vencord-support-🏥 message

You need to paste it in the console, it's not that great,,
it would be nice to get a plugin someday but for now it helps visually

[paper plover]

Though i just didn't know how to edit the css with vencord, if it's easy you can make it yourself from it

[pseudo stirrup]

this is just css 😭

[woven crater]

There's this css but it doesn't look good on the new UI
https://github.com/NSPC911/themes/blob/main/vencord/SeamlessChatBar.theme.css

[paper plover]

Well yes obviously, but it needs to be manually loaded, I thought vencord had something to load it on startup from what was said

with themes I suppose, never used any before

[high wigeon]

are custom themes not able to emulate the previous ui

[bright sapphire]

GOD this new update SUCKS

if someone finds a way to revert it please let me know

[pseudo stirrup]

#🏥-vencord-support-🏥 pins

will inevitably break at some point so just get used to it

[rugged pecan]

I was using official UI

with red theme and as I was typing on the new UI, it reverted to the default UI

[rugged pecan]

They will be once people understand the new CSS

It will just take some time

Until then, use the fix in the pins

[celest gate]

I didnt read what it said when opening it so i just thought it was a vencord upd or smth hy is my discord geeking ToT

[jaunty kindle]

the thing that really strikes me about the new ui after being updated into it out of nowhere is the top area now takes up so much space. like idk if its a linux thing or they decided to make a native title bar and gave up, but they split some buttons to a new upper area and reiterated the name of the server and now it takes up so much space on top. honestly if i had something that would revert only that i feel like i could get used to everything else

like idk who thought this was a good idea, it was fine before

definitely way better when i remove the titlebar and frame through plasma but augh

[brazen cairn]

https://github.com/surgedevs/visual-refresh-compact-title-bar

[wintry gate]

i used this update for a solid 10 seconds and pointed out like 70 things that could be done better

a toddler made that shit

anyways are there any fully futureproof ways to guarantee i won't ever have to use that shit

i'm using the experiment atm

[jaunty kindle]

🙏 thank you, its not perfect but its way better

[west falcon]

That seems like a bug ngl

On mac the custom titlebar is the titlebar

[pseudo stirrup]

isn't

linux uses a system titlebar

[high wigeon]

how would somebody make this thinner

its so unusually thick now

[peak jewel]

#🎨-css-snippets message

[prime plinth]

so even after the experiments refresh tip, now the horizontal servers list theme broke.
The amoled theme still works for me.
EDIT: horizontal servers list now works for me after pasting the provided vencord link of said theme into the Online Themes section of settings. <--- Solved

[high wigeon]

css snippets my new savior

[peak jewel]

very much, yeah

[high wigeon]

only thing id still need is for the space between chatbox and messages to be slightly larger again

fixed

now discord doesnt look totally ugly when switching off of old ui 🙏

[dim phoenix]

im fine with the new ui, its just that the top bar is something i dont want (i use web browser)

[dim phoenix]

thanks

[craggy garnet]

help

please