🪅-progaming

[royal nymph]

--enable-features=Vulkan,DefaultANGLEVulkan,VulkanFromANGLE

[jade stone]

just get a bunch of errors

[royal nymph]

LOVE

show

[royal nymph]

nix/nvidia issue

:3

[jade stone]

i'm on AMD

[royal nymph]

horror

what gpu

[jade stone]

6650xt

oh

i need to enable vulkan in nix i think

[royal nymph]

try

--use-gl=angle
--use-angle=vulkan
--enable-features=Vulkan,VulkanFromANGLE,DefaultANGLEVulkan,VaapiIgnoreDriverChecks,VaapiVideoDecoder,UseMultiPlaneFormatForHardwareVideo

half of these flags are probably dead

[jade stone]

*for brave, not the system

[royal nymph]

NIX IS EVIL

[jade stone]

@royal nymph love?

[royal nymph]

nix users have lost it

[supple whale]

yeah this is full gone

i used it for my app and it doesnt exist anymore

[supple whale]

first 3 defo are still used

you need them on linux for webGPU to work

[jade stone]

hold on while my system takes a few minutes to rebuild

guhhh

nixos bug

time to use nix-ld

[royal nymph]

yeah ik i use those #🪅-progaming message

[jade stone]

oh what the hell

brave has lib vulkan

[royal nymph]

i think the --use-gl and --use-angle ones are obsolete

[supple whale]

use-angle is for overriding angle

defo still used

[royal nymph]

seems normal

[jade stone]

#🪅-progaming message

[royal nymph]

isnt DefaultANGLEVulkan the same

[supple whale]

no

that changes the default vulkan

aka disables auto detection

https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/wiki/Implementation-Status

--enable-unsafe-webgpu --ozone-platform=x11 --use-angle=vulkan --enable-features=Vulkan,VulkanFromANGLE

mmmm

:))))

[royal nymph]

x11

why

[supple whale]

x11 isnt required

its just recommended

[royal nymph]

i hate chromium on wayland too but does it matter for webgpu?

[supple whale]

no

[royal nymph]

ah yeah makes sense

[supple whale]

well yes on some retarded distros

but not on ubuntu

[royal nymph]

chromium on wayland just sucks

devtools are so cooked

i love the context menus being below the window

[supple whale]

did u show u my webGPU shit btw?

im turbo proud of it

https://github.com/ThaUnknown/jassub/tree/main/src

dont go into src/wasm tho

thats all emscripten generated shit

i wish chrome supported %.2f

[shrewd canopy]

this is why fragmentation of system component is horrible
only either wayland or x11 should have existed, not both

[royal nymph]

crazy

[paper scroll]

can you send what they were replying too

[royal nymph]

tailwindlabs/tailwindcss.com#2388

@nimble bone

[clear thunder]

well you can't just switch the entire ecosystem to wayland suddenly yk

[jade stone]

That's hard when programs I use just don't work under wayland

[jade stone]

I like rust because I can write cursed code like this and it works

impl EventStream {
    pub fn try_new(dpy: Arc<X11Display>) -> Result<Self> {
        let x11_fd = dpy.connection_number();
        assert!(x11_fd > 0);
        Ok(Self {
            dpy,
            x11_fd: AsyncFd::new(x11_fd)?,
        })
    }

    pub async fn next_event(&self) -> Result<XEvent> {
        let mut guard: Option<AsyncFdReadyGuard<'_, i32>> = None;
        // XPending is not always accurate, so loop until we have an event so we don't sleep the thread
        while self.dpy.pending() == 0 {
            guard.take().as_mut().map(AsyncFdReadyGuard::clear_ready);
            guard = Some(self.x11_fd.readable().await?);
        }
        let event = self.dpy.next_event();
        if self.dpy.pending() == 0
            && let Some(mut guard) = guard
        {
            guard.clear_ready();
        }
        return Ok(event);
    }
} 

[worldly sigil]

come to embedded land, where the manufacturer-specific compiler was released 6 years ago with a gcc version 5 years out-of-date when it was uploaded, and ram is plenty (only 32mb tho )

[shrewd canopy]

Real

Force all web/js developers into embedded world

[deep mulch]

#KillAllWebDevs

[jade stone]

embed v8

[shrewd canopy]

#LoveAllKotlinDevs

[valid jetty]

$ echo 'int main() { puts((char *)&((int){0x557755})); }' | tcc -run -
-:1: warning: implicit declaration of function 'puts'
UwU

[jade stone]

./run

i = 0x557755
while (c = i & 0xFF) {
  i >>= 8;
  console.log(String.fromCharCode(c));
}

[rugged berry]

Here is your js(18.15.0) output @jade stone

U
w
U

[fleet cedar]

./run ```rs
println!("{}", std::str::from_utf8(&0x557755u32.to_le_bytes()).unwrap())

[rugged berry]

Here is your rs(1.68.2) output @fleet cedar

UwU

[jade stone]

guhh

why can't i just readlink /proc/pid/exe

[unkempt ember]

In France we say : " Le Octet "

[deep mulch]

you love windows apis

[fierce pendant]

as a web dev, please end my suffering

[delicate grove]

@jade stone, <t:1767829641:R>: comment on report

[austere idol]

because not everything is a file

[deep mulch]

salad moment LOL

[clear thunder]

LOL

[runic nebula]

How does discord call voice channel statuses internally? i cant seem to find them in VoiceChannel objects

[tired vigil]

check ChannelStatusStore

[supple whale]

so i might have gone a bit hard on the subtitle optimisation shit

turns out webgl2 is simply faster than webgpu

29-30ms webgl2 vs 30-31ms webgpu for worst case stress test

while offering much better backwards compatibility

[pallid heron]

oo what is this for?

[supple whale]

https://hayase.watch/

ASS renderer

[pallid heron]

woahh

thats a cool project

[fierce pendant]

is it a good idea to use this?

[supple whale]

???

[fierce pendant]

is this good to use

[supple whale]

no it doesnt cure cancer, nor will you revive ur dead monther

you're trully the master of weird questions

[fierce pendant]

ass

[supple whale]

you're asking the person that made the software, if their software is good, based on some non-specified requirements you keep to yourself

so you want a biased, unobjective answer

so yes this is the best software ever made in the world

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1207393766458007562.webp?size=48&name=kekwolf

[supple whale]

https://tryitands.ee

[fierce pendant]

thanks!

why didnt you tell me that directly?

[supple whale]

momentary lapse in judgment

I unironically believe that there's no better tool out there to watch anime

best possible video, audio and sub qualities, with insane speeds, offline support and a bunch of cool features like AL integrations, social forums, and a bunch of other goodies

[deep mulch]

interesting conversation

[ivory heath]

https://stackoverflow.com/a/1732454

[royal nymph]

bro vibecoding https://github.com/torvalds/AudioNoise/commit/93a72563cba609a414297b558cb46ddd3ce9d6b5

[fierce pendant]

yes because he has better things to do than visualizing audio in python

[tired vigil]

he should become a vencord contributor

[crimson sparrow]

Torvalds vibecoding python is in fact not something I thought I’d see

[royal nymph]

I'm pushing it out to github not because it needs to be public, but
because of my policy of using the internet as my backups. And because
it makes it so much easier to just sync between machines.

[final root]

Old ahh project>npm i

added 1138 packages, and audited 1139 packages in 43s

235 packages are looking for funding
run npm fund for details

42 vulnerabilities (11 low, 9 moderate, 18 high, 4 critical)

To address all issues, run:
npm audit fix

Run npm audit for details.

i think it needs updating

i fixed it with somehow no problems just npm audit fix then npm audit fix --force

[jade stone]

To be honest, this is pretty much the only reason I use GitHub

[winged mantle]

this is the reason i use private repos

i have no idea what this is

(actually i do i was messing with discord.py for some reason)

(but never pushed. lol)

lol i was such a pro java programmer in 2022

just create a class called global to put global vars

[final root]

i love when i put random titles that ill look back in a year and think "what the fuck was he thinking"

[winged mantle]

I sort of find it reassuring how crap some of my fairly recent code was?

[final root]

i still dont know what "its gonna work this time trust" is

[winged mantle]

I feel like I have not got that much better until I look at stuff from just a few years ago

how does this even compile

[balmy lintel]

npm audit fix most useless npm command which breaks my deps each time

just use pnpm ❤️

[winged mantle]

what even is this

[final root]

well my brain like 2 years ago didnt know what a pnpm is

[balmy lintel]

at least not using b*n or yarn

[winged mantle]

ohhh

I insanely did a typedef with a lowercase typename

[final root]

does that make a pointless file then order pizza?

[jade stone]

What language even is that?

[winged mantle]

C++

lol wat

[jade stone]

I love C++ as a language but I think I'd use it more if it had an actual build system /package manager

Cmake just sucks to use

[winged mantle]

not a particularly impressive project anyway as i don't think the tokenisers do a whole lot

i was trying to do syntax highlighting with probably no research on how syntax highlighters work

this is just weird

[winged mantle]

C++ is the sort of language where "it's not that bad" is a compliment

if you say you love it you most certainly are insane but on the right occassion I also love it

the best thing about C++ is how smart typing out std::vector makes me feel

[jade stone]

Yeah

Doing rust right now and the more I do rust the more I long for some of the features of C++

At the same time when I program C++ I often miss out on some of the features from rust

The grass is always greener I guess

[winged mantle]

I will probably always say I will learn rust but never actually do it

(learn it properly, not like my really limited experience)

[winged mantle]

C++ should just add all the good rust features

[jade stone]

I feel like the features I love about rust are virtually impossible to add to C++

[winged mantle]

[jade stone]

Although it is getting reflection in 26

But that's still just one of the few

I'd love to see C++ get checked. Generics

As well as a unified build system

And package manager

And modules become a real thing

[winged mantle]

i'm not sure if i'm missing features from rust but it feels like i'm too c++ brained to learn it properly

learning c and c++ was already very hard for my java brain in 2022

[jade stone]

Tbh rust lambdas suck compared to c++ lambdas

I love c++ lambdas and not having explicit capture groups sucks

[pseudo sierra]

I keep thinking surely it wouldn't be that hard to make one for c/++ but then every time a new one pops up it sucks ass

like given makefiles are literally just fancy bash scripts how is making an actually good program around that so hard

[winged mantle]

never really thought about this

my rust experience is v. limited

[jade stone]

I feel like it matters a lot more in rust where moving versus capturing by ref matters a lot for the borrow checker

Also, something I hate about rust is there's no way to implicitly clone a value

So reference counted types are a pain to use

Because every time you want to pass them to something you have to manually call .clone

[winged mantle]

horror

[jade stone]

@winged mantle data.tok is ref-counted internally, data is a shared_ptr

[supple whale]

im only marginally faster than the competition

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1207393766458007562.webp?size=48&name=kekwolf

[jade stone]

what is sabre and how did it fail?

[supple whale]

some DOM based rendering library

it failed by not working and not having accurate documentation

so it doesnt even construct

i copied the docs 1:1, didnt work

[deep mulch]

@jade stone loves gradle for C++

[fallen nebula]

Tbh gradle is nice

[balmy lintel]

Rebuilding your gradle

[night sphinx]

10000 ancient runes errors and warnings

[fierce pendant]

after having tried it i agree

[supple whale]

trust me, you did not have time to even use 50% of it

[fierce pendant]

yes

yes

yes

you are correct

but from everything i tried in 5 minutes i am already a fan

[supple whale]

usually am

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1056681096647037039.png?size=160&name=flexing

[supple whale]

open relations for shit like attack on titan, or sign in to anilist and unplug ur internet, or turn on persist files and download a bunch of shit so u can view it in library

play some super popular torrent and watch the peers show up on the globe in the torrent client [where they actually are irl]

shit just automagically works offline

its sick

you can even edit list entries, make forums post etc, all while offline

[fierce pendant]

i wont use any of these features

[supple whale]

you will

hayase auto-tracks episode progress

so if u sign in with anilist, and watch shit while offline

then thats editing list entries

it can also auto-skip filler episodes etc

there's little u cant do

even reverse search anime by screenshots or images

[fierce pendant]

live human dubbing when

[supple whale]

there are dub extensions for english

that's as close as you'll get

and ofc the video player that's goated as fuck

[fierce pendant]

i want the app do have an integrated ai meant to torture a human so the human automatically translates the animes i watch

[supple whale]

the vid player is cracked as shit

[fierce pendant]

the ui is a bit weird when i move it between monitors with different aspect ratios

[supple whale]

its normal

[fierce pendant]

waow

[supple whale]

idk what u expect to happen

[fierce pendant]

yea

[fierce pendant]

i expect to die

[deep mulch]

yop

[dense sand]

Wow what i just uploaded an invalid isic card to verify for student membership on GitHub and got accepted lol

[fallen nebula]

I still hate Web dev
But i gotta say yes deno + vue is very easy to use and i know why people would want to use it for everything

[fierce pendant]

2 milliseconds is crazy btw

[supple whale]

i know

this lib is faster than all native C++ implementations of this

im faster than mpc-hc, vlc, mpv

not more resource efficient tho

i INHALE resources kekw

[fierce pendant]

fuck resources

if i can render say gex in subtitles i dont care

[ornate quiver]

gradle is sooo good when you know how it works

i love guhradle

[fierce pendant]

guh

[nimble bone]

kys

[frosty obsidian]

they call it bun because its buns

[fallen nebula]

react is death
and idk bun seems more complex and with bs than deno

genuinely this is all i had to create for deno to work

{
    "tasks": {
        "dev": "deno run -A --node-modules-dir npm:vite dev",
        "build": "deno run -A --node-modules-dir npm:vite build",
        "preview": "deno run -A --node-modules-dir npm:vite preview"
    },
    "imports": {
        "vue": "npm:vue@^3.5.24",
        "vite": "npm:vite@^7.2.4",
        "@vitejs/plugin-vue": "npm:@vitejs/plugin-vue@^6.0.1",
        "vue-router": "npm:vue-router@^4.6.4"
    },
    "compilerOptions": {
        "lib": [
            "dom",
            "dom.iterable",
            "dom.asynciterable",
            "deno.ns"
        ],
        "jsx": "react-jsx",
        "jsxImportSource": "vue",
        "types": [
            "npm:vite/client"
        ]
    },
    "lint": {
        "rules": {
            "tags": [
                "recommended"
            ]
        }
    },
    "fmt": {
        "indentWidth": 4,
        "lineWidth": 2147483647,
        "useTabs": true,
        "useBraces": "always"
    },
    "unstable": [
        "fmt-component"
    ]
}

node is a curse

the less i can touch it the more happy i am

[fallen nebula]

why husk rosie

explain

[fierce pendant]

i am a bun + sveltekit guy

[jade stone]

Hammers

[fallen nebula]

i'm a C(++) guy until this happen

my fucking god
this is not normal
but it works
even AI is shocked

[ornate quiver]

what are you yapping about

[fallen nebula]

uh ?

[placid cape]

But still way better than maven

[dense sand]

I like gradle with kotlin dsl a lot

[fierce pendant]

why

[dense sand]

Kotler

[deep mulch]

@young flicker loves gradle with groovy

[fallen nebula]

I prefer the groovy dsl

[dense sand]

how

that language doesnt make any sense

[fallen nebula]

For the build.gradle it's good enough

[deep mulch]

you are insane

groovy is unbearable

[ornate quiver]

horrible

[dense sand]

yes

[nimble bone]

Groovy is good and much better than kotlin dsl

ykyk

idk why google is trying to force kotlin in absolutely everything you know you know

[deep mulch]

nop

groovy makes me want to kill myself

[deep mulch]

what

google has nothing to do with this

[nimble bone]

kotlin everywhere dsl compose everything whatever

[deep mulch]

thats literally jetbrains

[nimble bone]

Jetbrains basically a google puppet yk

[ornate quiver]

groovy needs to die

useless ugly and slow

can't wait for the day Gradle fully drops groovy support

[lavish cloud]

Does anyone know what to do when docker is stuck on this

(I've never used docker but its the only recommended installation method for this thing)

[clear thunder]

if you expand the terminal window enough it should show progress iirc

[lavish cloud]

why is it downloading at like 1kbps wtaf

[reef remnant]

Does anybody know how window transparency (on linux) is acheived and/or where the source code for this is or just how I can make an electron window transparent?
I've only found this: https://github.com/Vencord/Vesktop/blob/main/src/renderer/components/settings/WindowsTransparencyControls.tsx, but it seems like it's specifically for windows, and is a selector instead of a switch, unlike what it is on my linux client

[jade stone]

@solemn ravine This is the example they give for a simple counter

use iced::widget::{button, column, text, Column};

pub fn main() -> iced::Result {
    iced::run(Counter::update, Counter::view)
}

#[derive(Default)]
struct Counter {
    value: i64,
}

#[derive(Debug, Clone, Copy)]
enum Message {
    Increment,
    Decrement,
}

impl Counter {
    fn update(&mut self, message: Message) {
        match message {
            Message::Increment => {
                self.value += 1;
            }
            Message::Decrement => {
                self.value -= 1;
            }
        }
    }

    fn view(&self) -> Column<'_, Message> {
        column![
            button("+").on_press(Message::Increment),
            text(self.value),
            button("-").on_press(Message::Decrement),
        ]
    }
} 

[solemn ravine]

ya

[jade stone]

But I haven't seen an easy to break this up into a counter component, with its own self-contained state

I found this, but it is way to much boilerplate to be reasonable

https://jl710.github.io/iced-guide/app_structure/composition.html

Also it doesn't solve the issue at all

You still have to add the component as a part of your state

[supple whale]

god i cant imagine not having an ultrawide for coding rn

[deep mulch]

@jade stone your ui

[jade stone]

@deep mulch findroid so good

Managed to rotate just the blacks and white layer 180°

[balmy lintel]

Delete

[supple whale]

its a quite big project

so this is kinda normal

i love the wrapping rows they added

so fucking useful

[deep mulch]

how

[supple whale]

here's what that looks like on 'le ultrawide

[jade stone]

Have you considered foregoing tabs in your editor for having them in the sidebar along with your files

[supple whale]

nah fuck that

way too many files

[jade stone]

Have you considered closing your tabs

That's worse than me with my web browser

[supple whale]

the UI is fuckign almost 400 files atp

because i felt like it

[supple whale]

the output build for this app btw

sveltekit

[fallen nebula]

who puts their shell on the left
who use powershell as their shell
who keep the filetree open at all times
who don't use scrolling tabs

[dense sand]

can yall push to github?

i know there was an incident earlier today, but github status doesnt show anything

[deep mulch]

so much horror

[tired vigil]

at this point using ctrl-P becomes way quicker than scanning 20+ files with like four page.svelte's

[jade stone]

huge

[supple whale]

I do that too

the that's usually are "the feature I'm currently working on"

which I then all close once I finish it

[fierce pendant]

i love sveltekit

[pallid heron]

sleep two

[fierce pendant]

wizle

[balmy lintel]

This is not normal

I don't have 50 tabs open when developing a big project

Maybe 7 or 6 but not higher

[supple whale]

then its simply not a big project

for this shit i'll have all these tabs open, and then another 2 vscode instances

one for the native wrapper, and one for the ipc bindings

[fierce pendant]

resisted the urge to 6 7

[balmy lintel]

That's why I swapped them

[fierce pendant]

anyways i am currently developing a very small project and have 2 tabs, 50 tabs is bad

[balmy lintel]

You're just isnane

[supple whale]

no, its simply a big project

[balmy lintel]

You're a big project

[supple whale]

@deep mulch @jade stone @balmy lintel @fierce pendant i can show off the project in vc sometime if u guys want

you'll understand how utterly insane it is

[fierce pendant]

what project

[supple whale]

the one i just showed off

[fierce pendant]

what do it do

[supple whale]

plays the uwu

[fierce pendant]

what

[supple whale]

what do you not understand

you have the uwu

you play it

[fierce pendant]

i dont understand anything anymore

[supple whale]

what is there to not understand

i want to show off the cool codebase of the project ur calling me insane for

[fierce pendant]

and whats that project

[supple whale]

hayase

[fierce pendant]

uwu button in hayase when

[supple whale]

right here

[fierce pendant]

will you uwu for me if i donate?

[supple whale]

sure

[winged mantle]

why do i feel like the best way to work on a bytecode vm is to start on the bytecode vm

[night sphinx]

use butterflies and flip some bits

[winged mantle]

I feel like it'd be better to establish the runtime semantics

and focus on the bytecode by just parsing a simple assembly language instead of having to work on a lexer then a parser then the runtime before being able to see results

[dense sand]

i feel like having excel filler and pdf convertor are things in my web app which will make my server explode

[fierce pendant]

we need assembly but platform independent

[dense sand]

is there like a way to tell why its happening

whats taking 10 seconds of runtime??

[jade stone]

isn't that node internals

[dense sand]

probably?? i have a code which fills out excel worksheet using ExcelJS and then exports it to PDF using libreoffice-convert, but it just hangs after writing the pdf to disk

[deep mulch]

@jade stone sloppy sadan

[dense sand]

i use bun

= no bugs

[deep mulch]

@nino

[fierce pendant]

who needs friends when you can have hayase

[fallen nebula]

deno good

[fallen nebula]

use python instead, it has good shit to deal with excelt and pdf

[fierce pendant]

ewwww

[charred mason]

hello

[winged mantle]

so good

[winged mantle]

if the array is empty it will invoke UB

[jade stone]

when i do things like that i normally add a debug assert false

not sure if unreachable aborts in debug builds

[winged mantle]

I made a msitake though

in my language it will mean it's ub to have an empty block

[jade stone]

like if (true) {} is ub??

[winged mantle]

yeah

[fleet cedar]

Why ub and not compile error

[jade stone]

yeah...

[winged mantle]

it was a mistake

also it's interpreted

[fleet cedar]

Neither of those answer the question

Mistakes can be fixed

[jade stone]

what about if (foo) {} else if (bar) {do_thing()} else {return;}

not the best

[fleet cedar]

Interpreted languages can have errors

[jade stone]

but still should not be ub

[winged mantle]

yeah but it is particularly funny for an interpreted language to have ub

[winged mantle]

it's because I didn't consider the fact a block could be empty when evaluating it

evaluating it is meant to return the last expression

std::unreachable() tells the compiler the code is unreachable but in this case it's a lie

[tacit osprey]

Any way to hide mic and speaker button on user bar?

[winged mantle]

i guess i could require something to be in every block but that would be annoying

[winged mantle]

ohh I get you now

I would prefer neither

just return nil like every sloplang

this is such a sloplang let x = 0 works even though I didn't add variables yet

it's parsed as let; x = 0;

and that's not a variable that's just a global assignment

[jade stone]

please for the love a god pick a sane naming scheme for types. how do you use that unholy amalgamation of snake_case and PascalCase.

[winged mantle]

don't worry there are plenty of projects where i use pascalcase

I switch between coding styles all the time

[jade stone]

insane

i just use PascalCase for types and camelCase for everything else

[winged mantle]

in this project i decided to not use this monstrosity i am using in some other projects

if (true)
    func_call();
else {
    func_call1();
    func_call2();
}

i have to remember which projects i use the insane style and which i use the sane style for consistency

[jade stone]

do you not use clang-format

[winged mantle]

clang-format's cool with this formatting

though i don't really use it in personal projects as there are certain things i can't configure to work how i want

oh wait i guess clang format could enforce consistency by adding braces for you but i don't think it has something to automatically remove them

[jade stone]

good

https://clang.llvm.org/docs/ClangFormatStyleOptions.html#insertbraces

[winged mantle]

still clang format aligns things in dumb ways with seemingly no way to fully get rid of that

it's made me ask myself how hard it could be to write a formatter

for C++ it's probably a nightmare

[jade stone]

afaik clang-format uses a custom AST thing instead of the normal clang one because of how complicated c++ is to parse

[jade stone]

i think there's a reason why clang-format is the only c++ formatter (i've never heard of any others)

[winged mantle]

there are others

astyle

uncrustify

I wonder if you could make an LLM based formatter

[fleet cedar]

I think people would be unhappy if your formatting is nondeterministic

[winged mantle]

just send your whole codebase to chatgpt

[fleet cedar]

Though I think you can make deterministic llms, people just don't want to

[winged mantle]

it would be so boring if chatgpt gave reliable answers

[jade stone]

mis-match your braces with clang format and that's what you get

[winged mantle]

https://github.com/jose-elias-alvarez/gpt-fmt

[winged mantle]

gave me an idea

what if there was a compiler that made random mutations to your code until the error is fixed

(eventually by chance it randomly comments out everything)

[supple whale]

whats the easiest way i can add a custom plugin to vencord

without having to fuck around much in the future?

is this even possible or will i need to rebuild it each update?

[jade stone]

the easiest way is to have a local build of vencord

[jade stone]

if there are no git conflicts, you will not have to manually update, vencord's update will git pull and rebuild for you

you can make your own plugin under the src/userplugins folder

also if you're going to make a vencord plugin you should try out my vscode extension for it (not biased )

[supple whale]

how does that work?

like what, does it run pnpm builds when it auto-updates?

[jade stone]

it just shells out and runs git pull and pnpm build (--dev)?

[supple whale]

when does vencords updater run when it does that?

[tired vigil]

oh that makes sense
I always thought it just magically updated vencord at runtime

[supple whale]

via discord?

like when u open discord it does git pull and pnpm build and then re-injects?

im so turbo confused by how this works

[jade stone]

you only need to inject once

it just rebuilds

[supple whale]

but what invokes the rebuild

like i launch discord

and what, there's vencord code in discord with my custom path that re-builds it?

and when i restart discord that re-build version is applied?

[jade stone]

something like that, yeah

[supple whale]

whats the "vencord's update" in this context

[jade stone]

when you're using the git updater, if there are commits to pull it will try pulling them

if that didn't error, it will rebuild

[supple whale]

what is the git updater?

[jade stone]

updater for dev builds

[supple whale]

i only know of the vencord installer binary, and the source code that u manually inject via pnpm inject

[jade stone]

it just uses git from your source tree

[supple whale]

is that just part of the pnpm inject shit?

[jade stone]

idk tbh

i use vesktop

which doesn't install via pnpm inject

but the updater code is here

https://github.com/Vendicated/Vencord/blob/main/src/main/updater/git.ts

[supple whale]

like the fucking discord custom plugin shit is so ass documented

[jade stone]

the docs is just ask for help

nobody who knows enough to make them wants to

[supple whale]

fuck me...

[jade stone]

just tell me what you want to make and i can point you in the right direction

[supple whale]

wait that's inside electron's main process?

that its embedded?

[jade stone]

yes

it modifies discord's asar

that's how vencord injects

[supple whale]

i want to load custom js to patch some turbo cursed shit, before login phase occurs

i dont even care if its done via plugin, it probably wont be, i'll likely make an empty dummy plugin, and embed it as top level code

[jade stone]

this sounds like something to do with a patch

unless you don't need to interact with discord's code at all

i'd need to know what the "turbo cursed shit" is

[supple whale]

i dont know the details, thats what i was just hired to do

[supple whale]

web socket sign-in proxy

[jade stone]

like sign in to discord over a websocket

[supple whale]

yeah

the guy already has the code for it

its just about injecting it on launch each time

it doesnt need to be clean, it doesnt need to be stable, it doesnt need to be "correct"

for all intents and purposes its "run console.log('hello world') before sign-in occurs"

[jade stone]

are you signing in with a username/password or a token

[supple whale]

doesnt matter

[supple whale]

.

[jade stone]

it's possible

not going to write it for you, but shouldn't be that hard

[supple whale]

yeah i know

i just want to know if its possible

[jade stone]

anything is

[supple whale]

will top level code in a dummy plugin do it?

[jade stone]

you can fully patch discord's code

[supple whale]

does ven inject b4 sign-in?

[jade stone]

vencord injects before any of discord's code runs

[supple whale]

perfect

[jade stone]

you can use regex to find and replace any part of it

[supple whale]

so just an userplugin in src/userplugins

[jade stone]

that's what the patches are

[supple whale]

then pnpm inject

and auto updates and eveyrthing else just works

as long as there are no git conflicts

sounds about right?

[jade stone]

yes

[supple whale]

great, thx for the help

[jade stone]

if you're going to write patches, which you should, i'd highly reccomend my plugin you can use LSP features with discord's minfied code (go to definition, show all usages) and get a live preview in your editor of the patches you write

[supple whale]

this is just a shit JS monkeypatch

not a proper ven plugin

not that i'd ever attempt to submit another plugin to this project after being ghosted for half a year

i just want to run some custom code, for my friend

[jade stone]

still helps with being able to browse discord's bundle

[supple whale]

afaik he's patching the JS builtins not discord

yes i know its not a good idea

we both dont care tho xd

[jade stone]

https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/117494111/401429113-e82291c4-bad3-479c-bfd0-8810d07faab9.mp4?jwt=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJnaXRodWIuY29tIiwiYXVkIjoicmF3LmdpdGh1YnVzZXJjb250ZW50LmNvbSIsImtleSI6ImtleTUiLCJleHAiOjE3Njg0MDU5MzYsIm5iZiI6MTc2ODQwNTYzNiwicGF0aCI6Ii8xMTc0OTQxMTEvNDAxNDI5MTEzLWU4MjI5MWM0LWJhZDMtNDc5Yy1iZmQwLTg4MTBkMDdmYWFiOS5tcDQ_WC1BbXotQWxnb3JpdGhtPUFXUzQtSE1BQy1TSEEyNTYmWC1BbXotQ3JlZGVudGlhbD1BS0lBVkNPRFlMU0E1M1BRSzRaQSUyRjIwMjYwMTE0JTJGdXMtZWFzdC0xJTJGczMlMkZhd3M0X3JlcXVlc3QmWC1BbXotRGF0ZT0yMDI2MDExNFQxNTQ3MTZaJlgtQW16LUV4cGlyZXM9MzAwJlgtQW16LVNpZ25hdHVyZT1lYmM2OTNjNzJhMjcwOTkzYjUwNDU1ODhjMWQ5MTZmYTdmZTgzM2Q1OGYxNGE2NDU0OTk3YzRmYTVjZmM4NDQyJlgtQW16LVNpZ25lZEhlYWRlcnM9aG9zdCJ9.70HYMmxX6RcJa68sZfQOJ_as5aGEgPgIDNzjy0ziI9Q

[supple whale]

nice sesson token sir

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice @deep mulch

[fierce pendant]

whats qbe

[deep mulch]

hi

[jade stone]

afaik wrapper around LLVM IR which makes it easier to use

[fierce pendant]

just make it compile to rust thats an llvm wrapper too

[jade stone]

nop

(i also wouldn't say rust wraps llvm, it uses it as a backed, but doesnt publicly expose any of it)

[valid jetty]

no

it's an alternative to llvm ir which is less bloated

[fierce pendant]

when you are unable to lock in so much that you install cursor

im sorry

nvm im not installing it

[dense sand]

did anyone here got worker threads working with nextjs

[deep mulch]

@jade stone uses cursor

[ancient anvil]

I just made this basic shit for fun, can somebody just read the start of the readme and tell me if the concept is good ?

https://github.com/Louchatfroff/ytMusic-RPC/

[fallen nebula]

me when i noticed discord is weirdly slow and i see this : OOF

[winged mantle]

I tried decompiling my own project and it seems to using sentry??

I didn't consent to this

[fleet cedar]

Yup your io is sending telemetry

Have fun

[supple whale]

god this latest discord update is trully enjoyable

[fierce pendant]

yes you did

[deep mulch]

yippee

[fierce pendant]

also this is not sentry

[winged mantle]

I almost typed cargo build on my C++ makefile project ??

it was ages ago i last wrote rust

i think it's because recently i was compiling a rust project (not mine)

[winged mantle]

well I just got distracted by rust again

this is reasonable

this is like when your only dependency is express

you still have like 500 transitive dependencies

tbf it's already probably way less bloated than most ui solutions

stuff like qt invents its own wheels for everything :D

even basic data structures

[winged mantle]

eh maybe i'll just use imgui

instead now it just depends on a whole compiler

oh, thank goodness, that was slightly worrying lol

[winged mantle]

https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/6e23095adf9209614a45f7f75fea36dad7b92afb/tests/ui/weird-exprs.rs#L40-L60

[pearl stag]

weird-exprs.rs: Lines 40-60

fn zombiejesus() {
    loop {
        while (return) {
            if (return) {
                match (return) {
                    1 => {
                        if (return) {
                            return
                        } else {
                            return
                        }
                    }
                    _ => { return }
                };
            } else if (return) {
                return;
            }
        }
        if (return) { break; }
    }
}

[winged mantle]

how does this work

[crimson sparrow]

Seems to just return

[winged mantle]

I should not be allowed to write rust

(protip: posting your rust code and saying that you should be "banned from writing rust" is a good way to get people in chat to act as a linter and works consistently)

I think I overengineered my B.F. parser anyway

boyfriend parser <3

brainfuck interpreter is probably something you can easily do with no parser

and really code golf it

[deep mulch]

delete

[winged mantle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/rustjerk/comments/1koe69y/why_our_cto_banned_rust_after_one_rewrite/ gold

[jade stone]

Some horror rust that I wrote yesterday

[winged mantle]

wtf

[deep mulch]

Satan.

[open nymph]

how does vencord on vesktop grab the webpack modules with sandboxing AND context isolation? I'm trying to do the same for another webpack-built website from an electron instance I made

I can successfully make it work with both disabled, but I was wondering how y'all do it

[royal nymph]

by using a preload script to inject js into the webFrame

are you trying to make an electron app for a website?

learn how the different electron processes (main, preload, renderer) work

[open nymph]

I'm trying to create a modded client for Whatsapp web lol

im loading web.whatsapp.com in the main window

[royal nymph]

https://www.electronjs.org/docs/latest/tutorial/tutorial-preload

[open nymph]

and then I'm grabbing the webpack modules though window.require('__debug').mainModule

[open nymph]

that's exactly what I'm doing, but if I enable context isolation I can't access window.require anymore

[royal nymph]

because require is a nodejs thing

ans require("__debug").mainModule doesn't even make any sense, what are you trying to achieve?

[open nymph]

holdup

I just got home one sec

lemme show

[open nymph]

modulesMap mybad

[open nymph]

all in the preload btw

[frosty obsidian]

https://fxtwitter.com/astrodotbuild/status/2012166691371823563

Astro (@astrodotbuild)

We are joining Cloudflare!
︀︀
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FxTwitter · Jan 16, 2026, 2:14 PM

hm

[shrewd canopy]

Sounds good

[ornate quiver]

interesting

[worldly sigil]

at least it isn't vercel

[solid gazelle]

@worldly sigil @worldly sigil @worldly sigil @worldly sigil

[worldly sigil]

hi

[formal shore]

GUYS

IMAGINE.

creating.

a script on your bot.

a command*

that gives you the role just below the bot.

[supple whale]

tracks bug for 3h

it was Vite

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

@jade stone help me

[jade stone]

love

[supple whale]

TLDR vite is not outputting workers inside its manifest file

[jade stone]

oh god

[supple whale]

so that means sveltekit doesnt pick it up in its build output

[jade stone]

that sounds like a pain

[supple whale]

so that means my service worker cant cache it

so that means when u open my app offline the worker doesnt load

which means subtitles dont render

which means a white box renders

which means u cant see the video

THE RABBIT HOLE HOLY FUCKING SHIT

[jade stone]

have you found the source of the bug

[supple whale]

vite!

[jade stone]

no like the actual source

in vite's code

[supple whale]

no

its somewhere in 2 plugins

they use 2 different pluginms for handling workers

which vite themselves doesnt handle

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/714176329251291219.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=tif&lossless=true

idk how to debug vite tbf

@jade stone you got experience with that?

cuz im honestly at my wits end

[jade stone]

yeah actually

[supple whale]

want to help?

PLSSSSSS

[jade stone]

they have pretty good contributing docs

sure

[supple whale]

fuck man actually idk where to start

wanna hop in a vc real quick?

i'll show the issue

[jade stone]

sure

[supple whale]

cuz this me rn FR

[deep mulch]

@jade stone

[jade stone]

@deep mulch

[deep mulch]

stinky sadan!

[jade stone]

nop

[pseudo sierra]

satanic salad

[fallen nebula]

omg
i did it
i used all the credits a paid gemini account can use
and it's asking me to upgrade to the 150€/m
it's very good to make my detailed C# exam that needs me to use entity framework and clean architecture and create corpo code
i still have to direct it a lot but to do all the boilerplate it's nice
and even to just translate the french logic into english code
sadly i can't let myself vibecode tho so it still takes time
but it's way less annoying being a manager than a typing machine

[fallen nebula]

i didn't waste it
he made my exam

ah yes

[supple whale]

https://github.com/hayase-app/interface/commit/f71e1a91e0d8709ff9c08f18368b35c7bdb7ed6b#diff-6317e218ea40a2a9b47af98e100e81c06f9c0abff66737e6ca06ec4b29402242R67-R85

we couldnt fix it

monkeypatch it is!

[supple whale]

@jade stone i found another horrific bug

this time its firefox

[jade stone]

Lovely

[supple whale]

if a worker spawns a worker, the 2nd nested worker cant listen to message events

:))))))))))))))))))

so shit like postMessage() wont work

oh, another firefox bug!

hahahaha this browser is so dogshit

[jade stone]

At least Firefox finally supports css anchors

[supple whale]

fuckiong it supports jack shit

barely anything works in this browser

this is crazy

oh my fucking god
if your video is looped, and u use requestvideoFrameCallback
and the video loop
the time doesnt reset to 0, it keeps adding

pathetic excuse of a browser

[dense sand]

does anyone here knows how to use loki + grafana? im trying to setup the dashboard but id like to know one specific thing

vcotd

[elder yarrow]

The cozy of the day is steel blue! (#0081ab)

[lethal kite]

terry taco bruh

[dense sand]

[lethal kite]

thats the real picture

non edited

Terry Taco has entered the lobby 🌮💗

[dense sand]

how is that related to my question

[lethal kite]

bro terry taco etnered the lobby

[dense sand]

sir this is wendys

[royal nymph]

oh nice

I'm working on a new website that depends on anchors and it just didn't work on Firefox when I was working but I figured by the time I'm done it'll be supported

[supple whale]

i wish firefox supported any of the shit i do tbf

https://github.com/ThaUnknown/jassub/commit/cade3b9788a9972dce38d7bc917c3582cc239317#diff-be20cdb7eebb6daffd5e5667891407ed9cf5a07013642e960a059f407ef3885f

had to perform these actions against humanity

just to get shit running on firefox

at least offscreen canvas with webgl2 context isnt as fucked as offscreen with 2d context

that shit's completly fucked on ff, random errors when resizing, random detaching etc

so in comparison this is relatively mild

still, no multi-threading, so like >x4 slower than chrome, and almost x10 slower when ANY form of rapid memory growth occurs

but FF has always been dogshit with memory allocation and gc

at least its competetive with chrome in single threaded when the memory has already been pre-grown

actually its faster in those cases

but yeah "faster if you ignore problem A, B and C"

at least WebAssembly.Memory.prototype.toResizableBuffer is no longer experimental in browsers as of last week, so me using it doesnt make me unhinged!

[supple whale]

@jade stone check these are the fixes for ff

I LOVE this one: // Firefox cries about uninitialized data, but is slower with zero initialized data...

but then when u actually go to pre-initialize the memory to make this shit go away, its >10% slower

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1364270404516057219.webp?size=48&name=bruh~3&lossless=true

also when looping a video in ff, requestVideoFrameCallback doesnt reset to 0 for mediaTime on a loop, it just keeps counting up

so you can be on the 30th second of a 5 second video... fun!

[supple whale]

https://twitter.com/vxunderground/status/2012394708601827385

vx-underground (@vxunderground)

reverse engineer MalwareBytes
find local sqlite db
look inside
password "VGhhbmtZb3VGb3JDaG9v"
password: "c2luZ01hbHdhcmVieXRlcw"
append
base64
decode
"ThankYouForChoosingMalwarebytes"

X · Jan 17, 2026, 5:21 AM

[fierce pendant]

chat

i made a javascript framework

mentally help me

[deep mulch]

@lyric latch has cobwebs in his room

[fierce pendant]

whats that

which person do you think i am 😭😭

my framework have better name tohuhg

[fierce pendant]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/@usetorch/torch

i plan on maybe supporting vue components in torch but you aint getting react

but like

the torch philosophy is "you should kill yourself instead of sending too much js to the client"

mine too!

mine is
Zero Interactiveness with zero JS

thats like 3 wikipedia pages

mine is just

class HomePage implements estrogen.Page {
  render() {
    return `<h1>Hi!</h1>`    
}  
}

[elder yarrow]

🌈 yuvea is 99.98% gay

[fierce pendant]

its your decisions if you wanna
import * as torch from "@usetorch/torch"
or
import * as estrogen from "@usetorch/torch"

can you help me implementing atleast some typesafety

i dont want this to be so bad

i dont know if what i wanna do is even possible to do type safe

import { Context, Hono } from 'hono'
import * as estrogen from "@usetorch/torch"
const app = new Hono()

class HomePage implements estrogen.Page {
    load(ctx: Context) {
        var definitelyAString: string = "meow"
        return {
            definitelyAString
        }
    }
    render(data: any, ctx?: Context): string {
        return `${data.definitelyAString}`
    }
}

export default app

could i make data have type-safety when used in render()

what the fuck is a generic and what the fuck is a parameter

oh

why would i need to have that though

interface TorchPage {
    route?: string;
    layout?: Layout
    load?(ctx: Context): Promise<any> | any;
    render(data: any, ctx?: Context): string;
}```
does this even deserve typesafety

ok

[unkempt ember]

Why not using unknown along with a TypeGuard ?

[fierce pendant]

i am too dumb to understand what this does

when i extend it what

i dont see the point of that as long as i didnt also add type validation

[deep mulch]

hi axy

[fierce pendant]

i lost my sanity when i was six

i dont fucking care anymore

time to make a website with my framework!

[royal nymph]

this is so cursed why does jsx return a function

await (
    <>
        <h1>My Todos</h1>
        <Defer>
            <TodoList />
        </Defer>
        <Defer>
            <TodoList />
        </Defer>
    </>
)(ctx);

[deep mulch]

@delicate root teach me web development and webgl

and web data visulization

i need to render 200 mb of data

[mellow kettle]

lmao

[placid igloo]

vhg

[elder yarrow]

🌈 You are 77.41% gay

[fierce pendant]

@delicate root i build the first website with my framework

https://torch.aliceweidel.gay/

code here: https://github.com/usetorchjs/website

[fierce pendant]

uhh the github repo was private on acvident i just made it public if you wanna take a look

[jade stone]

@supple whale sonarr wont import it so i just downloaded it with filezilla and am using VLC

[supple whale]

told ya to just use hayase

;P

u can mount a network drive and download to said network drive

[dense sand]

[supple whale]

anyways, i hope you enjoy 86

its up there for me as some of my favorite shit

it has so many scenes i fuck with, and the major's personality is so fucking good, i love it

[supple whale]

casual "just rendering subtitles"

[fierce pendant]

average thaunknown activities

[supple whale]

https://jassub.pages.dev/beastars/jassub/

[fierce pendant]

big chungus

[supple whale]

fucking robbing vencord blind

if its a design, i'll steal it XD

[blazing haven]

tbf it is a pretty cool project

[supple whale]

its almost 1:1 the same design vencord did

with some light touchups

[royal nymph]

vsb 1 malware

[elder yarrow]

Done!

softbanned @lyric scarab

[supple whale]

fucking vps running out of bandwidth:

this is with 93% of data being cached by cf

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/714176329251291219.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=tif&lossless=true

[fierce pendant]

after write a javascript framework yesterday, i am writing my own "quick dev enviroments" platform now

its planned to be self hostable

[balmy lintel]

Hetzner gives 1tb

[supple whale]

neat, thats 4 days out of 30

🙂

[balmy lintel]

WHAT

What are you hosting

[supple whale]

electron app installers

[balmy lintel]

[supple whale]

https://api.hayase.watch/latest

issue is, vps says im doing like 100-200GB a day

and cf says only 5-10GB a day actually reaches the vps

so idk if i have some firewall missconfig, or if some1 is attacking me and the IP somehow got leaked

idk

[supple whale]

new anime season started, so there's been a surge of users

[dense sand]

Does anyone here know about any lightweight solutions to puppeteer? It seems so bloated to me

[jade stone]

Afaik puppeteer emulates a browser

[dense sand]

Yes

[jade stone]

Lightweight and browser don't belong in the same sentence

[dense sand]

I need it for testing with vitest

[jade stone]

I've heard of playwright

But idk what it really is

[dense sand]

Thats true, building the docker image with pptr takes a lot of time tho

My friends have been shitting at me for it being so slow

[supple whale]

selenium, then electron

but yeah its all just chromium

both pupeteer and selenium and electron

pupeteer is already as lightweight as you'll get it tho, considering its headless

they will all run roughly the same as they use chromium's testing framework, which is chromiums API for remote interfacing with the browser

or chromedriver, w/e u want to call it

[supple whale]

airtap has something called "airtap local" where it uses system installed browsers to run tests, idk how it detects them doe, maybe vitest has something like that too?

[dense sand]

I mean you can set up puppeteer to use local browser

[supple whale]

then u wont get less bloated than that lol

[cinder cloud]

Is there a plugin made that lets you search for messages with a specific reaction?

[elder yarrow]

👉 #🏥-vencord-support-🏥

(Auto-response invoked by @deep mulch)

[cinder cloud]

My bad

[royal nymph]

v+ no prog

[jade stone]

Nop

Insane

[supple whale]

holly what a hit

[supple whale]

1.3k commits in a year isnt bad tbf

[fierce pendant]

time to learn go

[ornate quiver]

do not

[jade stone]

do not

[clear thunder]

do not

[jade stone]

@lyric latch rate

class {
    getExportMapWreq_d(): RangeExportMap | undefined {
        const wreqD = this.findWreq_d();

        if (!wreqD)
            return;

        // function (module, exports, wreq)
        // wreq.d(exports, {exportA: () => a, exportB: () => b});
        const [, exports] = wreqD.arguments;

        return Object.fromEntries(exports.properties
            .map((x): false | [string, RangeExportMap[string]] => {
                if (
                    !isPropertyAssignment(x)
                    || !(
                        isArrowFunction(x.initializer)
                        || isFunctionExpression(x.initializer)
                    )
                )
                    return false;

                let lastNode: Node | undefined = findReturnIdentifier(x.initializer);

                lastNode ??= findReturnPropertyAccessExpression(x.initializer);

                let ret: RangeExportMap | ExportRange | undefined;

                ret = this.tryParseStoreForExport(lastNode, [this.makeRangeFromAstNode(x.name)]);

                classDecl: {
                    // check for ret here instead of using ||= because we can't short-circuit
                    if (!lastNode || ret)
                        break classDecl;

                    const rawMap = this.tryParseClassDeclaration(lastNode, [x.name]);

                    if (!rawMap)
                        break classDecl;
                    ret = this.rawMapToExportMap(rawMap);
                }

                ret ||= this.makeExportMapRecursive(x);
                // ensure we aren't nested
                ret = (function nestLoop(curName: AnyExportKey, obj: RangeExportMap | ExportRange):
                    RangeExportMap | ExportRange {
                    if (Array.isArray(obj)) {
                        return obj;
                    }

                    const keys = allEntries(obj);

                    if (keys.length === 1 && keys[0][0] !== WebpackAstParser.SYM_HOVER) {
                        if (obj[curName]) {
                            return nestLoop(curName, obj[curName]);
                        }

                        const [[key]] = keys;

                        assertNotHover(obj[key]);

                        obj[key] = nestLoop(key, obj[key]);
                        return obj;
                    }
                    for (const [k] of keys) {
                        if (k === WebpackAstParser.SYM_HOVER) {
                            continue;
                        }
                        assertNotHover(obj[k]);
                        obj[k] = nestLoop(k, obj[k]);
                    }
                    return obj;
                })(x.name.getText(), ret);

                return lastNode != null ? [x.name.getText(), ret] : false;
            })
            .filter((x) => x !== false));
    }
}

[supple whale]

whyyyyyyyy

[pulsar elk]

i havent slept

for 3 days

i dont even know actualyl

ive been trying to deobfuscate this thing

and make a tool for deobfuscating

that obfuscator

its so over for me

and i have realised i have been sitting and staring at the viewer for approximately 12 minutes, reading with my eyes not my brain

[glossy pilot]

https://github.com/xai-org/x-algorithm

@jade stone have you seen that yet

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian use in gloom

[balmy lintel]

Insane

creating my own website now

[open nymph]

so I was wondering

[pulsar elk]

i didnt expect the 4 letter p word to be blacklisted

[open nymph]

why doesn't vencord just bundle its own react and other libs and just inject the code into the page instead of hooking into discord's webpack modules?

except for patching some methods

let's say I make a plugin that simply adds a button, made with react

[pulsar elk]

im pretty sure its for like package size

[open nymph]

why can't you bundle and inject your own react and render the button?

[pulsar elk]

and performance

and efficiency

[open nymph]

just that?

I mean

not "just" but still

[pulsar elk]

and if you bundle vencord with its own version of react, i think there could be conflicts with discord

's version

[open nymph]

you can give it a different name at compile time I think

[pulsar elk]

dont take my word as gospel, i dont do web dev that much anymore

[open nymph]

especially if you use vite

[pulsar elk]

also

eh

nvm

[open nymph]

[pulsar elk]

wouldnt a separate react instance for vencord

be isolated from default discord component tree

making it pretty hard to do stuff in plugin dev

[supple whale]

we need to go to the 2005's iframe layout, where navbar, sidebar, main content were all separate iframes

having shit like channels, or users in its own iframe would make this app run x10 better

assuming they do origin isolation so that the iframes are multithreaded lol

[open nymph]

I don't have much react experience, but can't you just document.querySelector(?)

and then add a component there?

[open nymph]

@royal nymph don't explode me for the ping but I need answers

[royal nymph]

why in the world would we do that

and no, you can't have multiple versions of React

[open nymph]

oh really

just asking, I'm curious

[open nymph]

why's that? for as much as I know, you can technically rename the module object to something different than "React"

[royal nymph]

because they will conflict

and like I said there is no reason to have your own react

[royal nymph]

if you keep them in separate react roots then yes it will work but if you try to inject elements created with React1 into the React2 tree you will instantly crash

[open nymph]

why would you do it this way? to access something else in the tree? again, I don't have that much react experience, is it not possible to querySelect the target element, append a new element to it, make that new element a 2nd react root, and then add the components in?

[supple whale]

yet another svelte W

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1056681096647037039.png?size=160&name=flexing&lossless=true

running svelte inside svelte?

react inside svelte?

svelte doesnt care

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1207393766458007562.webp?size=48&name=kekwolf&lossless=true

[open nymph]

fr, svelte on top

[royal nymph]

no and why in the hell would one do this

[open nymph]

dunno

[supple whale]

tru it is a monkey idea

iframes > all

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1207393766458007562.webp?size=48&name=kekwolf&lossless=true

[fierce pendant]

i really love svelte but i am trying solid

[jade stone]

@deep mulch is this enough method chaining

10 levels of indentation

[deep mulch]

nop

[royal nymph]

so infefficient

you will use a for loop

[deep mulch]

salad hates efficiency

[jade stone]

soon

this code has like four nested for loops at the bottom

[royal nymph]

this.vars.get(decl)?.uses?.forEach(({ location: { parent } }) => {
    if (!isCallExpression(parent)) return;
    
    // your map((calledUse) here

    if (use)
        uses.push(use.at(-1)!);
})

same code but way more efficient and way more readable

excessive array method chaining is evil

[jade stone]

it's way more readable imo

[royal nymph]

nope

[royal nymph]

this is more readable

[ornate quiver]

nop

we need sequences in js

[royal nymph]

vai rewrite this code to use a single for loop like this:

this.vars.get(decl)?.uses?.forEach(({ location: { parent } }) => {
    if (!isCallExpression(parent)) return;
    
    // map((calledUse) code here

    if (use)
        uses.push(use.at(-1)!);
})

make sure to include all logic and have the identical result

[elder yarrow]

    if (!isCallExpression(parent)) return;

    const calledUse = parent;
    let use;

    if (exportName === WebpackAstParser.SYM_CJS_DEFAULT) {
        // TODO: handle default exports other than just functions
        use = isCallExpression(calledUse.parent)
            ? [this.makeRangeFromAstNode(calledUse)]
            : undefined;
    } else if (typeof exportName === "string") {
        const expr = findParent(
            calledUse,
            isPropertyAccessExpression,
        );

        // Replicating original logic

-# Response generated by gemini-2.5-flash. AI may be incorrect or misleading.

[royal nymph]

WHYYY

u get the idea

[jade stone]

@royal nymph love?

[deep mulch]

yea

[royal nymph]

good

so much more readable

[jade stone]

nop 😭

the method is so unreadable

https://github.com/sadan4/DiscordBundleParser/blob/enums/packages/webpack-ast-parser/src/WebpackAstParser.ts#L1022-L1153

[royal nymph]

well nit but personally I find this unreadable, I would do this instead:

for (const use of this.vars.get(decl)?.uses ?? []) {
    const calledUse = use.location.parent;

[royal nymph]

lmao

i mean

you should probably split that up in smaller functions

[jade stone]

yeah

[deep mulch]

sloppy sadan

[jade stone]

thanks copilot

[glossy pilot]

that's so real

[royal nymph]

why tf is it any

what is ts cooking

its not any if i dont use then

wtf if i set noImplicitAny to true it isnt any

it was because of overloads

the fix: casting to PrivateThreadChannel (before it was Private | Public)

[pulsar elk]

so i was right

[fierce pendant]

tanstack router 🤤

[jade stone]

If only it supported css modules 😔

[fierce pendant]

tbh it cant be that hard doing that manually

[jade stone]

Css modules work normally but break with ssr

You get FOUC

[fierce pendant]

whos fouc

[jade stone]

Oh

Looks like it was fixed

https://github.com/TanStack/router/issues/3023

[jade stone]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_of_unstyled_content?wprov=sfla1

[fierce pendant]

oh

why would css modules improve that though?

[jade stone]

It's an issue caused by css modules

They aren't properly handed with ssr

[fierce pendant]

haha

only reason i am moving my website to tanstack start is because i wanna use mdx

[ionic lake]

you can use mdx within anything

[fierce pendant]

but i don wanna

svelte-jsx sounds like the thing i will use shortly before killing myself

[ionic lake]

well okay have fun

[fierce pendant]

uhh

thanks

[ionic lake]

I meant something very simple, but whatever whets your appetite, I guess

[fierce pendant]

oh i also want a preloading router for no reason

[frosty obsidian]

isn't this usually solved by bundlers just inlining the css if its not too big

astro does that for ex

[jade stone]

Afaik don't need to inline the css, the browser will load any <link rel="stylesheet"> before display the content

The problem with tanstack is that the initial payload of html to the client did not contain these tags (for css modules)

The css was loaded by vite on the client instead

Which happens after the initial render of SSR html

[open nymph]

lol

[deep mulch]

@jade stone have you used tanstack data table

[jade stone]

no, that's something i'd write from scratch if i needed it i think

[deep mulch]

it seems nice for more complex stuff

@jade stone teach me typescript instantly

[jade stone]

what do you want to do

[deep mulch]

make website for work

[jade stone]

no like what do you want to specifically that you need help with in typescript

[deep mulch]

good practices

the type system

[jade stone]

uhh

prefer @ts-expect-error over @ts-ignore when you need an escape hatch

i personally prefer interface over type when possible

use a consistent naming scheme for types