🪅-progaming

[rustic turret]

add a minion

[tired vigil]

Add vennie

[fleet cedar]

Add quantum physics

[valid jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1024286218801926184/1431399323727564831/Screen_Recording_2025-10-24_at_22.46.45.mov?ex=68fd4600&is=68fbf480&hm=bb8bc2c8a6a668dd1ee5971e1baa4db765c92f8bcf0eb68ab8656c5d485968e9&

accumulator

so my gpu doesnt die

i think i get automatic antialiasing from the jitter?

maybe

i can just say there is ✨ stochastic antialiasing ✨

[valid jetty]

i ran out of time but if i had another week or two i would implement triangles and a .obj importer and then add a vennie

technically i have a week free next week but i need to actually do work in that week

[nimble bone]

Malicious Meyer

[deep mulch]

Malicious Meyer

[ornate quiver]

Malicious Meyer

[jade stone]

does anyone know why arrow functions infer never but named functions dont

[spark tiger]

https://www.swift.org/blog/nightly-swift-sdk-for-android/

[solemn ravine]

finally, gloom in swift

[hoary sluice]

maybe i can conisder learning swift now

is it better than kotlin

probably not right

[hoary sluice]

why does it render so slowly

and also

thats like really cool

when are you rewriting ellec in elle

[valid jetty]

the light calculations are really expensive, and i haven't really optimized my code that much

[valid jetty]

whenever i find myself with a free month or two (next year after june)

[spark tiger]

idrk

[frosty obsidian]

definitely not for android

at least for actual app development

[hexed surge]

Why, when Discord restarts and I am in a voice channel, does it not automatically reconnect me to the channel?

[tired vigil]

What is the reasoning behind infering never
does any "never" code reached cause the function itself to return never

[crude star]

it should but typescript is kinda braindead

[valid jetty]

never means a function will "never" return

that being, the process terminates, or loops infinitely

stuff like that

its a thing in any complete type system

rust has it, the ! type

[crude star]

never in typescript is just a weird form of any

[valid jetty]

so if a function is called which never returns, by inference the function which calls it will also never return

[crude star]

but that's because they're stupid

[ionic lake]

Man, I love doing something.unsafe!!!!!!!!!!!; asserts

[crude star]

https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/primitive.never.html

it doesn't have it properly lol

using it outside of return is stuck on nightly

[fleet cedar]

Heard rumors it'll be stabilized in 1.96, sometime next year

[limpid mica]

!

[valid jetty]

!

[limpid mica]

lipoproteins

[frosty obsidian]

in kotlin its Nothing

[ionic lake]

should've been Nah

[jade stone]

most of the time it means it throws, but it could be while (true) {}, process.exit, etc...

[keen galleon]

why on here

[hearty lintel]

what is this exactly

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty @fleet cedar is there a math symbol for possibly

"For a general graph G there could exists v, w, z such that ..."

[fleet cedar]

Yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_logic

◊ for possibly, ◻ for necessarily

[valid jetty]

how tf do i pass large triangle counts to the gpu

on macos, i have up to gl 4.1

which means i dont have ssbos

ubos are tiny

macos doesnt support 32 bit floats in textures

im going insane i just want to render a fucking glass utah teapot

[ionic lake]

idk jackshit but hug

[valid jetty]

awesome teapot

[paper scroll]

hey i think there's a little graphics with your tear

[hearty lintel]

where is it

[ornate quiver]

I ate it

[hearty lintel]

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty@valid jetty@valid jetty

make elle use cuda

[pseudo sierra]

@valid jetty@valid jetty@valid jetty

make cuda use elle

[deep mulch]

we still need elle gradle support @valid jetty

i beg

soon

[lucid trail]

make elle a rust macro

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty https://github.com/Rust-GPU/rust-cuda

@valid jetty write a STANAG 4285 decrypter

[valid jetty]

i didnt think i would need to touch such complicated types just to send a bunch of triangles to the gpu

i love my highp samplerBuffer

[hoary sluice]

is this elle

oh its shaders

you can probably tell i dont do graphics programming

[valid jetty]

i couldnt figure out any other way to do this

basically uhhh

on modern opengl, as far as im aware, you can use this thing called an SSBO

shader storage buffer object

to send an arbitrary amount of information to the gpu (like as big as the vram)

however im on macos, where opengl is deprecated and the latest version i can use is 4.1

SSBOs came out in 4.3

another option is UBOs (uniform buffer object) but those can store much less information (like 16-64 kb max) and i need a lot more for complex geometry

so basically all im left with is to send an uncompressed texture with high precision 32 bit floats for each ""pixel"" and then sample that texture to get my vertices for my triangles

it is SOOO fucked up

the funny thing is i couldnt even use normal raylib for this because it does something fucked and/or i cant define a TEXTURE_BUFFER

triangles := []f32;
objects := [
    Object {
        model = rl::load_model("examples/resources/cube.obj"),
        color = #cast(Color, &0xfffedefd),
        intensity = 0,
        ior = 1.5,
        rough = 0.05,
        kind = Kind::Glass,
        transform = Matrix::translate(0.5, 0.5, 0.5)
    }
];

for idx, obj in objects.iter().enumerate() {
    for i in 0..obj.model.meshCount {
        ...
    }
}

$dbg(triangles.chunks(4).collect());

shader := rl::load_shader(nil, "examples/resources/raytracer.fs");
defer rl::unload_shader(shader);

u32 tbo;
u32 buf;

glGenBuffers(1, &buf);
glBindBuffer(GL::TEXTURE_BUFFER, buf);
glBufferData(GL::TEXTURE_BUFFER, triangles.len() * 4, &triangles[0], GL::STATIC_DRAW);

glGenTextures(1, &tbo);
glBindTexture(GL::TEXTURE_BUFFER, tbo);
glTexBuffer(GL::TEXTURE_BUFFER, GL::RGBA32F, buf);

loc := rl::get_shader_location(shader, "triangles");
glUniform1i(loc, 0);

rl::set_shader_value(
    shader,
    rl::get_shader_location(shader, "triangles_size"),
    &triangles.size,
    ShaderUniformDataType::SHADER_UNIFORM_INT
);

so im doing this instead

and then on the gpu i have

uniform highp samplerBuffer triangles;
uniform int triangles_size;

uniform Object objects[MAX_ENTITY];
uniform int objects_size;


vec4 get_vertex(int i, int offset) {
    return texelFetch(triangles, i * 3 + offset);
}

Triangle get_triangle(int i) {
    vec4 v0 = get_vertex(i, 0);
    vec4 v1 = get_vertex(i, 1);
    vec4 v2 = get_vertex(i, 2);
    int meshIndex = int(v0.w);

    return Triangle(v0.rgb, v1.rgb, v2.rgb, meshIndex);
}

this was soooo not fun

fuck opengl fuck apple

[deep mulch]

i dont have this issue roie

when wil lyou send a binary i can run on my pc

[shrewd canopy]

On Windows we have only DirectX 😔

[valid jetty]

fuck you i did it anyway

[deep mulch]

HOW

1 fps

[valid jetty]

it's less than 1fps

[deep mulch]

how is it so inefficient

[valid jetty]

because it's checking intersections with like 5000 triangles for every pixel

[fleet cedar]

Have you ever made a ray tracer?

[deep mulch]

a ray tracer is not that slow

like

[valid jetty]

it is if you put complex geometry in it

[deep mulch]

with low sample count and low ray count

[fleet cedar]

Depends on samples and depth

[valid jetty]

though i will say mine is unoptimized

[fleet cedar]

And yeah, geometry

[valid jetty]

it can be faster but not by a lot

[deep mulch]

use a lower poly teapot maybe

[valid jetty]

this is a lower poly lmao

[fleet cedar]

Do you use any sort of bvh or similar?

[valid jetty]

i decimated it myself to like 5% of the original triangle count

[valid jetty]

nop i need to do that

[fleet cedar]

Then it's gonna be slow af, yeah

[valid jetty]

yep

is there any other way to optimize this..

i really want to put the full 800k triangle dragon into this scene but even with a bvh i'm scared it'll take like an hour for a single image to render

[deep mulch]

whats the bounce limit

of the rays

[valid jetty]

i should look at sebastian lague's video to see what optimizations he made

[valid jetty]

it's at the bottom

16 bounces, 1 sample per frame

though the frames accumulate so if i just wait it'll eventually become less noisy

[deep mulch]

what if you compiled and send to me

[valid jetty]

you have to link with opengl for windows lol

[deep mulch]

im not on windows

rosie insane

[valid jetty]

^^^ i'm using direct opengl for this because raylib didn't do what i need

[deep mulch]

love

@valid jetty what if you write your own graphics framework

[valid jetty]

husk

as if i had that kinda time

i just had sunday off before i need to start doing school work again next week

so i wanted to tie up some loose ends which basically just means like, i wanna render triangles

that's the logical next step of what i had before

[deep mulch]

one day i will do

[lucid trail]

you could look into using a Kd-tree, but i would think bvh already covers it

[supple whale]

if you're using opengl anywyas

do it in web

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1233149945465536522.webp?size=48&name=cocainewolf

[valid jetty]

yeah but i hate wgsl

[supple whale]

you and me both

XD

honestly i wonder how webgpu holds up

i dont know any1 thats using it doe

[valid jetty]

pot

[deep mulch]

0 fps

[winged mantle]

lately i've been deleting a lot of files by mistake

previously i deleted my distro's repos from my system

now i accidentally deleted the source file instead of the object file

[ornate quiver]

Husk

whats the ts/js formatter to use with vsc nowadays
excluding prettier cause it sucks

[shrewd canopy]

Biome?

[deep mulch]

is biome good

[winged mantle]

it's the formatter with the most modified wooded badlands plateau vibes

[ornate quiver]

oh okay

ill try biome ig

related i guess but what indentation does everyone prefer for jsx
i typically use tabs at 4 width for everything but jsx is cursed so

[crude star]

always same as js

[ornate quiver]

oh also is there a list of presets for biome

[jade stone]

i use stylistic, but i am also anal about formatting

[shell stone]

4 spaces

[nimble bone]

prettier

[ornate quiver]

EXPLODE

[jade stone]

i hate prettier with a passion

[jade stone]

tabs

[jade stone]

@ornate quiver zoot merged my rewrite of his site

Love?

[jade stone]

html + tailwind

only one line of js for light/dark

(tbh i could move that to css but cba)

[deep mulch]

slimey sadan

[ornate quiver]

yop

no more jetpack compost web

[deep mulch]

I'm composting

[ornate quiver]

compostable

[night sphinx]

@compostable

[spark tiger]

why does warp the terminal sponsor a repo to bypass cursor limits lol 😭 https://github.com/yeongpin/cursor-free-vip

[dawn ledge]

xilem

webgpu is nice, i like it

[ionic lake]

dprint

[nimble bone]

@cinder egret Fayeland Unban

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa LC will never fail to disappoint me in how hacked up it is

[royal nymph]

depends honestly

personally I prefer the vscode default formatter cause it's reasonable while letting you choose the style. but it's very permissive and requires you to already format your code reasonably

so if it's a project with many contributors, nothing beats something strict like prettier or maybe biome (never tried biome personally)

I wish there was go formatter equivalent for js, it's so good

[woven mesa]

lmaooo

[solemn ravine]

vibe coded terminal

[paper scroll]

use biome biome best

i love biome

[spark tiger]

@woven mesa do u still use warp tho

iirc u used it at some point right?

[woven mesa]

i do

if you disable all the ai shit its a decent terminal

[spark tiger]

i hate how it’s been two months since i got a mac and im still using Termianl.app

[woven mesa]

ok

[solemn ravine]

wait whats wrong with that

I use it

[spark tiger]

before i tried it i kept saying how iTerm2 is like essential app every mac user should get

and how Terminal.app sucks compared to it or any other terminal

but idk it seems good enough to me

[woven mesa]

@spark tiger

[solemn ravine]

I used to be one of those people who switches terminals but like it just ends up being an extra app that is either missing stuff I need or just does as well as terminal.app

[spark tiger]

ghostty?

[woven mesa]

?

[spark tiger]

oh nvm it’s some other terminal

[solemn ravine]

ghostty has good features but I mean at the end of the day its just another terminal

[spark tiger]

i thought it was ghostly because they have shaders support iirc

[woven mesa]

i didnt know that

[solemn ravine]

all I neeeed

[woven mesa]

ghostty is definitely fast but i prefer warp simply because i like its text entry

[solemn ravine]

I only switched to iterm because it looked cool

I actually had warp for a bit

[spark tiger]

same but it was kinda buggy on windows so i returned to wt

[solemn ravine]

im one of those #normie users who end up using whatever the os comes by default

my wallpaper isnt even changed

[spark tiger]

i changed mine because it was a boring nature pic

idk why they didn’t put that cool image from the box instead

also i wish my menu bar was white because it looks so clean

[woven mesa]

i have a nice wallpaper

i have a lot of wallpapers

omg https://github.com/honghaoz/ChouTiUI @solemn ravine

the guy made it public

[solemn ravine]

WHAT IS THIS

why is everything old

[woven mesa]

so good

[solemn ravine]

compose..

@woven mesa seems like PBServerConnection is not available on mac

[woven mesa]

aw

[royal nymph]

i was going to try ghostty but they have no usable package format

???

[solemn ravine]

they're a hardcore nix and nix-darwin fan UNFORTUNATELY

[royal nymph]

maybe I'll just extract the binary from the arch package or smth

[solemn ravine]

is this like everything but fedora

[royal nymph]

everything but rpm and apt based + no tar gz / appimage

[pseudo sierra]

doesn't opensuse also use rpm

[solemn ravine]

asdx8sauydsa

[royal nymph]

literally not a single sane non hipster format (except arch)

[solemn ravine]

they should put it on flatpak maybe

[shrewd canopy]

Is it even available for windows 🐟

[pseudo sierra]

no

[shrewd canopy]

Sad

[royal nymph]

literally just provide a tar gz

[pseudo sierra]

https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/archive/refs/tags/v1.2.3.tar.gz

[royal nymph]

thats source code

Each version of Ghostty is only guaranteed to build for one specific version of Zig as it is still a rapidly-evolving language. Either older or newer Zig compilers may not be able to build Ghostty. If your package manager maintains a different version of Zig than what Ghostty requires, you can use static binary releases of the Zig compiler on the Zig downloads page.

[spark tiger]

you can build it for windows and it will kinda work i believe

though last time i tried it it didn’t compile but i’ve seen people saying it is possible

[pseudo sierra]

tupid

[royal nymph]

if you install packages from some random like this you're ngmi

[solemn ravine]

call this a skull tissue but I dont like ghostty configs...

I'll just use konsole on linux

[pseudo sierra]

not even a skill issue that's a pretty common thing I hear

and I agree with it

[solemn ravine]

did you see that the betterdiscord dev made some website for ghostty configs

[pseudo sierra]

insane

[solemn ravine]

https://ghostty.zerebos.com/

[royal nymph]

bleh

[shrewd canopy]

I will just keep using Windows Terminal

[crude star]

zerebos jumpscare 😭

[solemn ravine]

funny how its a mac looking window

[royal nymph]

lmaooo zere

[solemn ravine]

forgot theres CSS in gtk no way u can have css themes

@woven mesa there does seem to be some notification stuff for CF

https://github.com/khcrysalis/runtime-headers/blob/main/macOS/15.5.0/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/_CFGeneralPasteboardStore.h

which is very nice but I don't think I want to discover all the types for these 🙂

[deep mulch]

hi

[solemn ravine]

im stuck staring at rust code again because I genuienly cant structure rust code

how do I make this maintainable bro

[ionic lake]

what are you doing that made it bad

[solemn ravine]

sadly around 5 different very annoying libraries that need to work with one another

[supple whale]

who?>

XD

[valid jetty]

it's rendering..

that's on sample 1633, i'm gonna let it get to 4096 before i export to an image

this is not a full bvh, it would run way faster if it was

my bvh builder is wrong, so i just made a single bvh node which encapsulates all of the triangles in the mesh

this is still faster than before because now at least the ray has to hit the bounding box of the mesh before checking every triangle

so it's still a big enough speed up that i can render this dragon

i think it has 5k triangles? iirc

maybe less

the shadows should prove to become more defined as more samples are taken

[winged mantle]

I got a second hand copy of "The C programming language" (second edition) and it has a train ticket as a bookmark

also the logo looks weird so i'm wondering if it's counterfeit

I miss my original copy :(

this is in fact my second second-hand copy of the c programming language second edition

these things aren't cheap

[valid jetty]

i have a first hand second edition copy

[winged mantle]

is this all your books

[pseudo sierra]

peak

[valid jetty]

no i have more but those are the books i got within the last few months

and that's not an up-to-date collection i got more since then

[hearty lintel]

blahaj, C programming book, mangas, and stardew valley cookbook recipes, what more do u need

[winged mantle]

you only just got the c programming book??

trendy new book

[valid jetty]

??? no i've had it since like uhbbbb october last year

i don't buy books that often

[winged mantle]

you just said they were they books you got within the last few months

[valid jetty]

it counts i think

that image is from july 2025

[valid jetty]

2!!!

[hearty lintel]

2 of everything?

[pseudo sierra]

MIGU

[hearty lintel]

[winged mantle]

why are lower case snake_case type names so pretty

[hoary sluice]

printed intro to graph theory 😭😭😭

[winged mantle]

maybe they feel pretty coming from Upper_Snake_Case type names

which i did use in one project

going back to PascalCase makes me thing of airlines

even though easyJet is actually camel case

why isn't it called easyJet case

[valid jetty]

idk why i have that actually

[solemn ravine]

amfi_get_out_of_my_way

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty buy me C book

im tempted to buy C book but im unlikely to read it

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch

[deep mulch]

[jade stone]

camelCase my beloved

[eternal verge]

[shrewd canopy]

Good

[royal nymph]

someone needs to lock all vercel employees in an isolated room with no Internet access and throw the key away

https://x.com/ethanniser/status/1982865837615964169?s=19

Ethan Niser (@ethanniser)

WIP typescript attribute proposal

wdyt

X · Oct 27, 2025, 5:43 PM

[worldly sigil]

vercel on their way to make vendor lock-in a first-class js feature

[pseudo sierra]

vercel on their way to make malware

[crude star]

so insane

at least proper decorators i think are a bit better

no idea why typescript only supports them in classes rn

https://github.com/tc39/proposal-decorators/blob/master/EXTENSIONS.md guhh

tc39 know javascript challenge

[deep mulch]

@crude star rini

[crude star]

zoot

[jade stone]

tbh i dont care that much decorators, give me pipes

[deep mulch]

in 2050 typescript will have every language feature

[jade stone]

typescript will get extension functions (its impossible i think) by 2090

[deep mulch]

evil

[low thunder]

pogaming

[crude star]

introducing typescript 2:

• supports kotlin syntax

[deep mulch]

rinininini

[ornate quiver]

oh the horrors

[torpid solar]

I'm confused
\

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch @hoary sluice

i wrote a bvh and that allowed my raytracer to handle much more complex geometry

[deep mulch]

pretty

is hte performance any better

[valid jetty]

yes lol

much better

[valid jetty]

in this render

i was rendering 1458 triangles at <1 fps with 16 bounces and 1 sample per frame

[valid jetty]

this render is 87130 triangles at 4fps with 1024 bounces and 1 sample per frame

the original dragon now renders at 24fps with the same settings as before, compared to the <1fps from the old render

i let the higher poly dragon reach 50000 samples before i stopped the render

which happened to be at almost exactly 3am (almost exactly 3 hours since the start of the render) so that was nice

the old dragon above took about 2-3 hours for 20k samples

so 30k extra samples in the same timeframe for a dragon with 60x more triangles and 64x more bounces is pretty good id say

[hoary sluice]

3 hours is still crazy high

[ornate quiver]

rosie recreating blender

[ornate quiver]

anyone know when discord oauth refresh tokens expire
i cant seem to find a straight answer
vap spotted

[royal nymph]

that awkward moment when you find a comment of yourself yapping completely nonsense a few years back

[ornate quiver]

real

[winged mantle]

You might accidentally achieve sentience in your nil objects

I hate it when that happens

[shrewd canopy]

They currently dont expire

[ivory heath]

You don’t. Refactoring in rust is common when adding new functionality due to how everything works.

https://youtu.be/1UKVEUGEk6Y

[valid jetty]

it looked fine at 1,000 samples tbh, it was diminishing returns to wait until 50,000

and it got to 1000 in like 2 mins

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty learn from blender

you will copy their methods

[valid jetty]

blender does compute shaders

which i cant do because im using fucking opengl on macos

thats why on blender you get the little squares

the work is split up even more than i split it up

[deep mulch]

hop off

[valid jetty]

whaaa

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty @valid jetty

roie

[valid jetty]

i dont really have a choice

my other approach is to use the metal api which means i have to write metal bindings for it

and that sounds like a lot of work

[deep mulch]

I meann

you don't have to use macos

[valid jetty]

thats a good point i will try the raytracer on my linux machine in a bit

it should run better i think

[deep mulch]

do

@valid jetty ray trace minky

[winged mantle]

problem: rust
solution: goto

[valid jetty]

send me an obj

[lavish cloud]

Kotlin uses goto for coroutines

[solemn ravine]

objc mentioned

[deep mulch]

soon

[fleet cedar]

Casual reminder that the goto in programming languages is far weaker than the one Dijkstra warned about

Can't jump between functions for example

[winged mantle]

longjmp

[deep mulch]

shortjmp

[solemn ravine]

I can't wait to figure out what all these values mean

[deep mulch]

if (!!probablyFalse != !false)

[valid jetty]

do you know how enum type displays work

[fleet cedar]

That means there's an ```rs
#[derive(Debug)]
enum Value {
Boolean(bool),
String(String),
...,
}

[solemn ravine]

ye

but no thats not what i meant

[fleet cedar]

Oh, you meant the nonsense keys?

They do look fun indeed

[solemn ravine]

yes

no one has documented LPLF93JG7M lol

[deep mulch]

does it compile to the contained type

[fleet cedar]

Wdym

It's an enum (aka tagged union)

[deep mulch]

idk what tagged union is I haven't used rust enough yet

[fleet cedar]

They're everywhere in ts too, { kind: "int", value: int } | { kind: "string", value: string }

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty next week i will test elle clean build time on a 9950x3d

[hoary sluice]

what does fine mean

cyberpunk can probably look fine on a 2050 at 30fps

[deep mulch]

?remindme benchmark elle

[delicate grove]

Invalid time provided, try e.g. "tomorrow" or "3 days".

[deep mulch]

?remindme 4hr benchmark elle

[delicate grove]

Alright @deep mulch, in 4 hours: benchmark elle

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty love?

[valid jetty]

like, it wasnt that much of a difference from 1000 to 50000 samples

i just let it run because i was watching a movie anyway

anyway i improved my bvh to construct much faster

and i can now render the full 870k triangle dragon

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty can elle run through qemu static on x86_64

[pseudo sierra]

probably

[valid jetty]

uhhhh probably

but why

[deep mulch]

I need to

@valid jettycan I run elle on my phone @valid jetty

NONONONONONONO

ITS HAPPENING

the Bug

[valid jetty]

the Bug

[valid jetty]

if your phone can run linux with a desktop cpu

[deep mulch]

my plugin sometimes will start inserting emojis and mentions at start of message

[deep mulch]

I have no idea why

@valid jetty @valid jetty

[valid jetty]

will be horrible, elle depends on tokio full and tower lsp and some other stuff

[deep mulch]

make elle depend on is-even

[ornate quiver]

I will explode

[valid jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542264318465671170/1432762459835597025/render_srcnn_photo_noise1_2x.png?ex=69023b85&is=6900ea05&hm=15dcd3174dd61fae178ff778d71a1c99e7af8d3f3bd46313d6df7c920c34c736&

final render

you are not the first person who has said that which is kinda funny

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty watch https://youtube.com/@marshallbrunerrf

nerdy math

[deep mulch]

@crude star rini prison

[delicate grove]

@deep mulch, <t:1761664531:R>: benchmark elle

[hybrid brook]

Regarding an old experiment 2021-07_role_popout

Does anyone know how to fetch a role's list of users without admin perms?

[shrewd canopy]

can't unless guild has <10000 members

[hybrid brook]

The guild I'm referring to has less than 10k but for specific roles I can't see the count of how many users have a role unless I can access server settings/admin perms.

[shrewd canopy]

then you can use const counts: Record<Snowflake, number> = await RestAPI.get(`/guilds/${guildId}/roles/member-counts`) to fetch member counts of roles (mapping of role ids to count of users who have role)

[hybrid brook]

Thanks! I'll test it out

[hybrid brook]

@shrewd canopy

1367241808819650662 0
1367243000622612520 224
1367243075252129932 164
1367243078376620186 20
1367243210463645816 715
1367243238515146803 1880
1367243247130251314 188
1367243392731320370 578
1367244200541950157 1
1367244816190144563 7
1367245146747568209 3
1367256261116297230 1
1367270029929746487 1
1367282776944017470 19
1367765604311760970 1
1375412608424873994 7
1381436888904106015 131
1381437259114352825 12
1429042203665371208 372
1429042417042063561 0

Worked great!

Used fetch('/api/v9/guilds/1367241808819650662/roles/member-counts',

[shrewd canopy]

Don't use fetch

Use RestAPI

[hybrid brook]

Worked good and did what I needed lol

[winged mantle]

makefiles are so nice lol

[supple whale]

said no sane person ever

[winged mantle]

i wish i actually learnt them sooner

obvs you don't use them for dependency heavy stuff but they're pretty nice for what they're made for

[ionic lake]

I just use a python file called x.py and define tasks

[supple whale]

mfw thats like 85% of C++

;-;

[winged mantle]

actually dependency management is easy in c/++ (including in makefiles)

a good dependency management solution... as far as can be observed.. is impossible

with raylib i just downloaded a tarball they had which had headers files and libs

[ionic lake]

This is true

[hoary sluice]

nix

[supple whale]

npm is a better native module dependency manager

than the lack of a standard for makefiles

[mellow phoenix]

Agree

[lucid trail]

@valid jetty Compute shaders, open gl 4.6!!!!!!!!!!!

i spent my whole day trying to get this to work

uses a very questionable open gl to metal translation layer

[valid jetty]

4.6?????

[lucid trail]

yeah

[lucid trail]

pretty fire

[valid jetty]

you should try my newton fractal

or my burning ship..

[lucid trail]

what is it currently doing right now, fragment shader right?

@valid jetty how does elle have 14k users 😭

[valid jetty]

it doesn't i think people just install every extension on zed

[royal nymph]

bots probably

[lucid trail]

oh so raylib is just wrapping over opengl 4.1

[royal nymph]

whenever u make a new npm package it will have hundreds of downloads in the first few days

[crude star]

rosie, who has 13.9 thousand devices , is an statistical outlier and shouldn't have been counted

[royal nymph]

cause of all the bots installing it

[valid jetty]

anyway

https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/examples/graphics/newton.le
https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/examples/resources/newton.fs

https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/examples/graphics/julia.le
https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/examples/resources/julia.fs

[royal nymph]

or it's rosie reinstalling it that many times

please dont name it .fs

is that F#

[lucid trail]

yeah i was looking at this

[valid jetty]

??? fragment shader is a common convention

[lucid trail]

rn i dont really see the point in using compute shaders for this

[royal nymph]

fs = filesystem

not a file extension

sory not sorry

[lucid trail]

what else can you do with them

[valid jetty]

uhhhh

compute shader != fragment shader

[crude star]

I thought .frag was the weird convention but tbh .glsl is saner

[deep mulch]

elle popular

[deep mulch]

yes

[lucid trail]

yeah I understand that, i cant think of anything you could only do with a compute shader rn

looks like i could do physics sims

[valid jetty]

raytracer

[lucid trail]

isnt it really common to use a fragment shader for raytracing

[valid jetty]

well yeah

but you can use a compute shader to split the work up even more as far as i know

that's what the squares are in blender when you're rendering i think?

like the squares are all separate compute shaders rendering their own part of the same single frame

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty hii

[lucid trail]

doesn't blender render those one at a time

or are you thinking of something else

also fix your thing!!!

[valid jetty]

yeah uh

0.3 is not the newest at all

i recommend cloning the repo and adding 0.3.5 as a dev extension

my error reporting on save has been broken for a while btw, i don't know why but i just no longer get sent File Saved events

[lucid trail]

ic, so were you thinking of these

[valid jetty]

yes

i believe each square is a compute shader

[lucid trail]

That's for if the gpu doesn't have enough memory though

[valid jetty]

oh hm

[deep mulch]

roieee 😭

[royal nymph]

what the fuck https://fixupx.com/arktypeio/status/1983210635266498649?

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@serene elk look at this

[serene elk]

that's wild

but named captures are so ugly tho

[lucid trail]

@valid jetty do you have dragon.mtl files

[valid jetty]

i don't

[lucid trail]

interestingly when I try to run raytracer it expects dragon3.mtl

wow only cube, teapot works, interesting

[valid jetty]

huh

well tbf the code which is public is kinda bad

i didn't push my updated code that can render more advanced models yet iirc

this render is 1.74 million triangles

[deep mulch]

many

[royal nymph]

scrolled to the see also and the fact that I can't tell which ones are fake is so funny

how is "use memo" real

react and next are such shitshows

[lucid trail]

i was debating if "use no memo" was real

not that wild

[valid jetty]

thats looking pretty good

[deep mulch]

woah

love

I should make this in my compose scripts

would be so cursed

[valid jetty]

zoot have i sent you enough images to convince you to write a ray tracer yet

[deep mulch]

I've always wanted to but maybe

[lucid trail]

im starting to love cmake, i think cmake is great

[winged mantle]

pure make better

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa I want the endpoint for adding capabilities

[woven mesa]

how do you do that again

[solemn ravine]

and seeing if you're able to add that capability

like if you're a dev account etc

[woven mesa]

signing in

[solemn ravine]

portal -> identifers I think

then you try to make an app id

[woven mesa]

okii

[solemn ravine]

you're able to update app id's too

[woven mesa]

wait a fucking minute

no fucking way

they have sf symbols for web use on their cdn

[solemn ravine]

in xcode theres a capabilities option, but it only shows the one you're allowed to use on your current team

I just want the endpoints for these and that should basically be it for the apis

[woven mesa]

no they dont nvm

@solemn ravine https://sfss.cdn-apple.com/v6.beta/s/bubble.left.and.bubble.right?m=monochrome&w=light&s=small&l=en-GB sf symbol data

interesting

sorry got sidetracked

[solemn ravine]

a

[woven mesa]

making an app id now

[solemn ravine]

the way I need to add capabilities is from reading the apps entitlements file and making changes/updating appid if necessary

if it uses an entitlement I'm not allowed to use it should just get rid of the entitlement in the app

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa https://github.com/Aeastr/Conditionals

is this peak

[woven mesa]

a bit

[valid jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/377557956775903232/1433049547822596159/glass_dragon.png?ex=690346e4&is=6901f564&hm=21a534f9e9f3ead1230d353de7753d8947b0f41680781c163ed2d334139337ef&

fully glass, no roughness

and thats where im ending this experiment

no more raytracing i have actual work to do

[woven mesa]

so fire

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa do capabilities with default "no" mean that any account can use them

this doesnt have it

why is there a default value for this

when I do an api request the "capability" isn't listed like the access wifi entitlement

bad question maybe

a lot of 26.0 stuff arent listed

these entitlements confuse me a lot honestly com.apple.developer.networking.carrier-constrained.app-optimized

why is this an entitlement? cant this be an info.plist key

SOME OF THESE ARENT DOCUMENTEDD ENOUGH

[solemn ravine]

wait all the capabilities that arent listed means that I can probably use them on a free account

hooold on

[pseudo sierra]

holding on

[lucid trail]

i really hate this

[dense sand]

https://fxtwitter.com/saltyAom/status/1983034553792176270

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FxTwitter · Oct 28, 2025, 4:54 AM

[solemn ravine]

@formal walrus

[shrewd canopy]

People who use Python/flask/quart are sane

If u use js/ts outside of web browser u need a mandatory coding break

[ionic lake]

i use js in embedded

[shrewd canopy]

You need to stop using it and start using Rust instead

[meager moat]

waht the heck happen

all my custom codfed plugins just dont work anymore

did the discord code change ?

[elder yarrow]

👉 #🏥-vencord-support-🏥

(Auto-response invoked by @granite moat)

[meager moat]

oh bruh

[ionic lake]

Rust doesn't work in embedded

besides it doesn't belong in embedded

[granite moat]

ragebait

/j

[ionic lake]

How

[granite moat]

rust works in embedded

belongs is another story

[ionic lake]

No it doesn't

[granite moat]

what

how

[ionic lake]

Show it

[granite moat]

https://docs.rust-embedded.org/book/

[ionic lake]

Fake

[granite moat]

just use core instead

and drop std

[ionic lake]

I would rather drop you

[granite moat]

rust working in embedded is a conspiracy theory

[ionic lake]

I don't use woke languages

Woke mind virus

[granite moat]

whatcha use then

[ionic lake]

Real programming languages like C

[granite moat]

so other languages are fake

not real

[ionic lake]

Yes they are

[granite moat]

tbh programming is fake

[ionic lake]

Living is fake and woke

[granite moat]

it was invented by companies to, uhh idk

[ionic lake]

God was a vibe coder

[granite moat]

to destroy keyboards easier

[crude star]

its incredibly funny that rust was made for embedded programming and then proceeded to be good at anything but that

[granite moat]

how is it bad for embedded though

I haven't tried it on embedded but

I heard it's good for embedded

[ivory heath]

Rust does actually do more than c it’s just modern processors can skim off the overhead in basic operations. Rusts insistence on statically linking everything (even if it’s not needed). Massive runtimes for async operations

[ivory heath]

The only thing “good” about it is being memory “safe”

Which means nothing when you have to poke raw addresses and registers to do shit

HORROR libvpx

[woven mesa]

@ivory heath hiiiii

[ivory heath]

Haiiiii

[woven mesa]

hru oomf

[granite moat]

It does since you write it in a abstracted way so that the unsafe code lives in isolated units and even unsafe doesn’t allow you to violate the borrow checker

[woven mesa]

poke addresses?

basic reference?

[ivory heath]

Does not check raw pointers and raw pointers are valid in unsafe.

One would be writing to raw pointers when using hardware features.

Unsafe blocks don’t magically make code better. It can be used to visually “verify” code is safe I guess.

You could make you own “bindings” to hardware calls in any other language as well

[woven mesa]

@ivory heath !!!

i think i broke new lines lol

[granite moat]

It won’t check your raw pointers ofc that would be bad for performance but there is a benefit to the isolation concept, since it isolates your unsafe code to certain small places where something can go wrong and makes it easier to write safer code

Though I don’t think rust is useful for most apps

[woven mesa]

this is actually a fully native discord client im writing

[pseudo sierra]

paicord

@ivory heath haiii

[granite moat]

WHAT

it looks awesome dude

What’s it called

[woven mesa]

paicord

:3

[granite moat]

super cool

also native SwiftUI :o

[pseudo sierra]

paiUI when

[woven mesa]

real

[lucid trail]

need

[ivory heath]

This is now a generic argument for why rust is good not why it’s good for embedded

Nothing about it is good for embedded

I can still make unsafe wrapper functions in c and other languages for hardware features and raw pointer manipulation

[ivory heath]

Rust bounds checking at all is actually pretty bad for embedded depending on how “old” or simple said microcontroller is

It does things that actively harm its use case s

[ivory heath]

Haiii

[cinder egret]

shrimply use lua

[ivory heath]

I lose my mind talking to rust devs when c++ does majority of the shit rust shills complain about

It’s like they think languages (and compilers) stoped at c99

Like I can be memory safe with c++ using vectors and smart pointers instead of raw allocations and then poke memory directly

[ionic lake]

Rust is objectively the better language

Goes without saying

[jade stone]

I'm excited for reflection in c++26, hopefully it will fill some of the gaps between c++ and rust

[ivory heath]

Do you have a link to the proposal or spec? Seems redundant in name given other c/c++ features

Oh yeah.

Okay I see why it’s useful

[ivory heath]

Moving away from c/c++ pre processors is amazing

[frosty obsidian]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/removing-obfuscation-in-java-edition

[deep mulch]

good

[tired vigil]

evil corporation is not so evil anymore?

[granite moat]

okay use c++

I have also used c++

i just don't personally like it

but that's tbh my own skill issue

[deep mulch]

discord will soo nsupport client modding and remove obfuscation

nop

[granite moat]

[winged mantle]

imagine if discord stopped minifying 😭

[frosty obsidian]

horror

[ornate quiver]

oh the horrors

it would run even more like shit

[winged mantle]

i wouldn't trust myself to write safe code in c++

:3

[shrewd canopy]

Ship sourcemaps

[dense sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012016635713953862/1433032010540126299/GCC_SystemD.mp4?ex=6903368f&is=6901e50f&hm=403504eacca520a1e55aa399b2d55c89804323853a33a190ea40ff768b966feb&

[frosty obsidian]

what in the fuck is that

[dense sand]

I actually have 0 ideas

Gcc virus or something

[deep mulch]

check your files

[supple whale]

its fucking art

thats what it is

[supple whale]

never was, they shipped deobfuscation maps to help modders even more

but they just realised "wtf why, just ship the code and dont obfuscate it LOL"

mojang is very chill, and they are aware that 95% of their game is user generated content

so they've been leaning into that for ages

providing more and more and more tooling for modders

and for people that make vanilla content via command blocks or servers or datapacks

they added support to rendering raw images in font files, so u can simply display any UI you want with text on screen, simply because some modders said it would be cool

and detecting user input server side was massive too, like movement keys and lmb/rmb

[shrewd canopy]

still useless for anticheat purposes

we just need kernel anticheat in minecraft already

[supple whale]

it was never needed for anti-cheat

server side player simulation was always the most reliable method

not best by cost

but most reliable

[shrewd canopy]

but also annoying

latency and client performance

[supple whale]

never said best

said most reliable

^^

most cheats are so horrificly primitive you'll never need to go that far to detect them

and all the other ones are so advanced the only way you'll detect them is long-term heruistics and statistical analysis

Prediction was overkill as shit, and did nothing against many blatant cheats

only patched some bullshit like some closet client modules that emulated user input in impossible ways

but did nothing against bypasses or exploits that blatant clients do

[shrewd canopy]

sure but it's always better to be extremely aggressive against cheaters

[supple whale]

is it?

its best if cheaters dont know that they are even detected

honeypots always work best

[shrewd canopy]

to make cheat for game with kernel ac, the first step is fully learn x86_64 assembly and figure out how to make undetectable hypervisor

[supple whale]

valved prooved that VERY well with trust factor in csgo

where cheaters didnt get banned, just cheated against other cheaters

what detected you? fuck knows! are you detected or simply unlucky and playing against other undetected cheaters? fuck knows!

it just bothers me cs2 doesnt have this because all the data they trained on is useless for cs2

pathetic

[spark tiger]

this guy dropped two peak videos and never uploaded anything since then... https://www.youtube.com/@kishimisu

[shrewd canopy]

I prefer to preemptively block cheaters instead of reactively

[bleak scroll]

C

[ornate quiver]

this is a crazy fucking thing to say

not to mention that it would never work

[shrewd canopy]

sure but i have like zero tolerance of cheating

[shrewd canopy]

it certainly can work if you lock down the client

[frosty obsidian]

hell no

[deep mulch]

i think file is actually insane

[frosty obsidian]

anticheat should be up to the servers

not all servers care about cheating

and i certainly don't want more 3rd parties hanging around in my kernel

[deep mulch]

wing secretly doesnt know what a kernel is

[frosty obsidian]

its like popcorn right

[shrewd canopy]

that's what i meant

[shrewd canopy]

I'm fine with it

You already got NVIDIA, Intel, VPNs and even Samsung sitting in your kernel

[frosty obsidian]

yeah but theres a difference between software necessary for installed hardware and something only used because a game doesn't trust me

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian kernel level anticheat for discord

[night sphinx]

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oh right

wait nvm theres perms here

[ornate quiver]

fuck off no thanks

that means client side mods would be effectively dead on popular servers
no optimization mods no nothing

[shrewd canopy]

This also can be solved by something like game consoles have

There are devkit and retail consoles
On devkits you can freely run unsigned stuff, but can't play games and use production servers
On retail consoles you are not allowed to run unsigned stuff (so no mods, third-party optimizers, etc), but can play games on production servers

[ornate quiver]

so you're suggesting everyone get a console

[shrewd canopy]

No, that's not what I'm saying

I'm saying to require signing thirdparty mods to use them in production (actual online matches), and having signing not needed when playing singleplayer or privately (like only with friends)

[upper pendant]

Servers that need this already implement measures to not have any cheating

Some do use custom clients to join only, or there would be heavy checks on suspison of cheating

Idk take faceit for example

It eliminates much cheating but it isn't exactly forced on you

[ornate quiver]

I don't have an issue with custom clients having some sort of client anticheat for specific servers

but putting it into the main game is insanity

[wooden drift]

oops

[jade stone]

you might like magic-esquery

https://github.com/auvred/magic-esquery

[ornate quiver]

anyone know if a component library exists to mimic discord profiles

im using react

[jade stone]

Found this on Google, tbh just make your own.

https://github.com/MiguelHigueraDev/discord-card-react

[ornate quiver]

i tried that one
unfortuantely it uses react internals that break with react v19

i could try downgrading ig

[jade stone]

Insaneeeeee

[jade stone]

Where does it use them

[ornate quiver]

no idea
but it errors trying to get __SECRET_INTERNALS_DO_NOT_USE_OR_YOU_WILL_BE_FIRED

since it was renamed

i tried patching the library to use the new one but it breaks elsewhere

[jade stone]

Try updating the deps

[ornate quiver]

i guess ill try

[jade stone]

(I think they should be peer deps, not normal deps)

[ornate quiver]

i think so too

oh that might be why its failing

oh it worked

thanks satan

[dense sand]

who shipped this to react docs prod

[ornate quiver]

nvm this lib kinda sucks

ill pr the update anyways but ig i have to build it from scratch

i will make a better library

[solemn ravine]

need to do some code for generating a csr

[royal nymph]

why tf does a profile component need to use react internals

oh it doesn't

rushii is just insane

incompatible react versions my beloved

[shrewd canopy]

Fyi roblox and fortnite already do that

[fleet cedar]

Roblox and fortnite, truly the paragons of excellence in game design and software engineering

[shrewd canopy]

They were examples

Bruh

[crude star]

that's simply not a thing in Minecraft
https://youtu.be/JjxH0IuyCpg

[timid sluice]

nooo everybody should comply with what this one person thinks cheating is (modifying the game in any way)

[ionic lake]

this has existed for a year and half

react, vue, hono, all have one

[dense sand]

Ohhhh

[ornate quiver]

1. that doesn't make kernel ac acceptable
2. live service games are in a very different position

[shrewd canopy]

Sorry, can't detect deranged cheats like DMA-based ones without kernel access

[ornate quiver]

too bad then
use server side heuristic analysis

there will always be cheaters no matter how difficult you make it to do so
and there is still plenty of cheaters even with kernel ac

[shrewd canopy]

Doesn't work well for cheats like stealing everything from chest (since its fast and if you have good mouse, then you can do same too quickly), or wallhack (latency/client performance issues)

[ornate quiver]

esp is a result of poor game design

you're sending every players location to every client at all times
no wonder you get wallhack

even when they're not supposed to see them

[shrewd canopy]

Sure but if you conditionally send location, it introduces latency issues

[ionic lake]

anti cheat sucks

let cheaters cheat

[shrewd canopy]

HvH

[deep mulch]

file is scared of cheaters

[valid jetty]

that dragon is made of glass but he looks like this

unfortunately i couldnt render him with all 7.2 million triangles because i ran out of memory

so hes there at 10% triangle count, still a respectable 720k triangles

[deep mulch]

is the renderer on github

[valid jetty]

i will see if he can render at 50% triangles, 3.6m

[valid jetty]

yea

https://github.com/acquitelol/raytracer

[deep mulch]

do i need to build elle first

[valid jetty]

yeah obviously

[deep mulch]

but elle is malware

oh roie my roie

\n

[valid jetty]

i'm using it instead of C

[valid jetty]

idk lol

[deep mulch]

make
ellec src/main.le -o raytracer -z -lraylib -z -framework -z OpenGL
ERROR: cc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-framework’

Compilation of 'main.le' finished with errors. (っ◞‸◟ c)
make: *** [Makefile raytracer] Error 1

[valid jetty]

yeah

look at the readme

[deep mulch]

idk what to set ELLE_LIBS to

[valid jetty]

basically just do -lraylib -lGL probably

[deep mulch]

didnt work

what does framework do

[valid jetty]

do you have raylib installed

[valid jetty]

it's just like a library but for macos

specially system libraries

[deep mulch]

thats probably the issue

[valid jetty]

well no because on linux you can just link with opengl normally

it's deprecated on macos that's why you link with it like that

[deep mulch]

whuh

teach

you incorrected!!

[lucid trail]

how much did it end up with

[valid jetty]

what does it say when you do -lraylib -lGL

[valid jetty]

i said in the message under

[deep mulch]

idk how you mean to pass those

[valid jetty]

but i actually did try right now and he can render with 50% triangles, 3.6 million

[lucid trail]

i meant in memory size

[valid jetty]

make run ELLE_LIBS='-lraylib -lGL'

[valid jetty]

like 5.6gb lol

[deep mulch]

horror name choice

what that mean

[lucid trail]

oh wow crashed at only 5.6gb?

[valid jetty]

oh husk that happens on linux too

[valid jetty]

yeah idk why

well i do

[deep mulch]

isnt that like a 128 bit address

[valid jetty]

it was at 5.6gb but i tried to double the size of my array again and it didn't have enough memory to perform that realloc so it bailed

[deep mulch]

the rosinga

[lucid trail]

still

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty is it cause x86_64

[valid jetty]

hmmmm

try replace dragon 4 with dragon 3

less triangles

ok it is rendering very slow with the 50% triangle dragon but it's working

there are 4.4m triangles in my scene

[deep mulch]

count each triangle manually

[valid jetty]

oh i also doubled the render resolution again so i think that also made the performance worse

[lucid trail]

same thing

[valid jetty]

it's rendering at 3840x2160

[valid jetty]

happens

[deep mulch]

@valid jettyprogress

[valid jetty]

i don't know why LoadModel explodes when there are many triangles

[deep mulch]

pause and restart work

[lucid trail]

yeah its there for sure

[deep mulch]

i need to implement collision checking which might be weird

cause the width is actually double to make it appear square

roie will play my tetros one day

[valid jetty]

at one point i put a broken model in there and it just segfaulted in LoadOBJ for no apparent reason

that was fun to debug

oh also i still can't figure out how to send 2 different textures to 2 different sampler buffers

[deep mulch]

roie will ssh into my pc and build elle

[valid jetty]

that's a huge memory bottleneck for me because i have to put all of the bvh nodes into the triangle array

[valid jetty]

yop

[lucid trail]

write elle bindings to MGL

!!

[deep mulch]

elle bindings to python

elle will have bindings for every language

[valid jetty]

i want to but i don't have time anymore

[deep mulch]

time..

[valid jetty]

school starts again on monday next week and i'm out all day tomorrow

i had 2 weeks off school that's why i got to do this at all

[deep mulch]

time dr freeman is it really that time again

@valid jetty i need to write a printf implementation

somehow

[valid jetty]

my frames are rendering sooo sloowwww

[valid jetty]

that's not that bad

[deep mulch]

im sitll kinda beginner in C++

ill need a buffer and stuff

roie rot

[valid jetty]

you can find the number of arguments by counting the number of % characters in the fmt string, and then ignoring any that are %%

[deep mulch]

rotating the roie

[valid jetty]

and then you just iterate through the fmt string, when you discover the a %, grab the next char and that tells you what type to use in va_arg

and then just print that

[deep mulch]

rosie so genius

acquite LOL!!!

[valid jetty]

doing things like %.*s for sized strings is a little more work but still not hard

[frosty obsidian]

that works for something very basic

[valid jetty]

well yeah

[frosty obsidian]

yeah i was gonna mention that stuff

[valid jetty]

i don't think you even need to know the number of args

you can just iterate the fmt string until null terminator

[deep mulch]

roinga

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch these dragons are gonna be so cool when they're done

i rendered in 4k so itll be way cooler than my other renders after i denoise

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty 3d scan minky and render

[valid jetty]

i don't wanna come out of your walls and do it

can you send an obj

[deep mulch]

soon

[frosty obsidian]

3d scans are the real tests for renderers

they tend to have weird geometry

[deep mulch]

wing doesnt know what concave and convex are

[valid jetty]

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/polycam-3d-scanner-lidar-360/id1532482376

[valid jetty]

my renders are using 3d scans

[deep mulch]

can you scan a creature that wont stay still

[frosty obsidian]

ik and that particular model does have weird geometry

[deep mulch]

wing doesnt know what a vertex is

[valid jetty]

the stanford dragons are scanned by stanford university, it's great they made them publicly available

[valid jetty]

when shes sleeping

actually idk if stanford scanned the second dragon

but it's on their website

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty boo

[frosty obsidian]

so cool how they obtained a real dragon

[deep mulch]

wing doesnt know what a cpu is

[frosty obsidian]

zeet doesn't know what a transistor is

[deep mulch]

yop

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch @frosty obsidian https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/896904105153425449/1433552829917823056/RDT_20251031_012628.mp4?ex=69051b9c&is=6903ca1c&hm=2ebefa176aa5e6966f82e59fb9b6c091534dc12391ab6d87b1f24b2fafc22798&

[frosty obsidian]

mean

[deep mulch]

i think vencord broke it keeps stopping halfway through videos

[frosty obsidian]

frog was just living peacefully in his home

[valid jetty]

your internet is just bad

[deep mulch]

eviction

[valid jetty]

discord fucking has an ass way to handle buffering

[deep mulch]

evict all frogs

[valid jetty]

it pauses the video while buffering

on mobile*

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian i like to throw frogs out their homes

#EvictAllFrogs

[frosty obsidian]

you do that and we go on a general strike

all the worlds infrastructure will screech to a halt