🪅-progaming

[spark tiger]

it’s fully open source so yeah good luck

[median root]

i just dot know what kinda things i actually need

exec commands, filesystem stuff, running files creating windows

[ionic lake]

Make a checklist of what you want and look for options then

It uses wasmtime

[median root]

what level of access does it allow from plugin to system?

the thingy im using also does wasmtime but it also uses a bunch of its other crates (hence the 200 extra deps)

[ionic lake]

You just expose features yourself, plugins invoke asynchronous apis provided by zed which in turn calls whatever for the platform

[median root]

this seems so much more possible tysm, im gunna go on another research arc now

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty which one?

@fleet cedar

[fleet cedar]

Depends on whether empty string means something different from no string

[hoary sluice]

What would that something different be

the date/location is either known or unknown

[fleet cedar]

Then it sounds like unknown is meant to be treated differently from any known value?

[hoary sluice]

Actually I can't think of a scenario where that would be the case

[spark tiger]

this is so insane why do they even keep trying 😭 https://github.com/expressjs/express/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed+Update+Readme.md

[hoary sluice]

whats the point

[spark tiger]

i have no idea

[hoary sluice]

are those jobless indians adding their name to every readme they see and hoping someone accidentally accepts the pr so it looks like theyre an express contributor

(theyre indian names and theyre probably doing this for a resume)

[spark tiger]

yeah that part i understand but surely the company hiring isn’t dumb enough not to check that this contribution is well one line readme change

jfc they been doing it since february 2024

also… do the companies care that much about your single contribution?

[hoary sluice]

oh they probably are

[spark tiger]

i have a zed contributon am i cool enough

[hoary sluice]

its probably not a single contribution

im guessing it shows up on their github profile with one of those svgs that show your contributions and the recruiters might not check the details

just see 150 contributions

[spark tiger]

atp why even bother creating these fake accounts just literally lie to them “oh yeah i’ve got contributions in foo, bar”

[hoary sluice]

this is how they feed their families

[spark tiger]

the repo main page only shows like five contributors and if you go click to see the full list it will show you your total diff where it’d become easy to figure out how high quality their contributions are

[hoary sluice]

tell that to HR

non technical recruiter opens this page, sees robots, fpgas, mentah healthcare, 30 contributions (does not know that a contribution is just a commit to anywhere) and hires the guy

at least that what i wish was the case cause then id have a better job

[dense sand]

Anyone here who uses crdroid? Do banking apps and google wallet work okay?

[hoary sluice]

maybe it does actually happen

[spark tiger]

need a job in hr ts sounds so easy

[hoary sluice]

you have to be a middle aged woman

[spark tiger]

i can transition

[winged mantle]

what is this syntax highlighting

[runic sundial]

Mine did but this was years ago and required lots of tinkering

Readas: it's probably not gonna work

Crdroid is a baller ROM thoe

[fleet cedar]

Have they considered contributing

[spark tiger]

open sauce

[spark ridge]

open south

[dense sand]

daily reminder to not keep your react code thirsty

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-drinking-from-faucet-water-gif-22834892

[lucid trail]

if statements!!!

[ionic lake]

Nice!

[valid jetty]

is that wasm

wait

wasm is stack based

what is that ir..

[lucid trail]

cranelift

[valid jetty]

oh lol

either way congrats :3

[lucid trail]

yay! informally turing complete now

[valid jetty]

can you malloc, condition, and loop?

you are turing complete if yes

oh i guess if you count recursion as loop

[lucid trail]

well you can do loops with recursion

and theoretically infinite stack

[valid jetty]

generics when

[lucid trail]

i suppose i will need that for arrays

Before that structs, and before that loops, and before that type casting, and before that proper name spacing

I don’t really know how to approach entry points

[valid jetty]

not necessarily

you could make arrays a builtin type like pointers and then basically make it monomorphize that particular builtin type

[lucid trail]

oh so it’s like specific monomorphization for arrayu16, arrayu32, etc?

that’s just kind of straight up implementing it

[valid jetty]

well i mean like

pointers are technically generic

but you don't monomorphize them

just make []i32 refer to a struct that has a u64 capacity, u64 size, and i32 *elements internally

tho i just went and implemented the whole generics system instead of just particularly arrays because having inference is nice

[lucid trail]

ok yeah that makes sense

ref types and points also totally skipped my mind

[valid jetty]

for a while (the first 2 ish months) of elle, pointers were just u64 lol

im sure you can still make useful programs without actual pointers

[lucid trail]

yeah

not sure how i’m gonna deal with memory rn

[valid jetty]

i stack allocate everything at the top of the function in the entry block

even if it's declared in inner lexical scopes

that way you don't end up leaking stack memory if you declare a variable in a loop

and it makes no difference to the user

because scopes are technically imposed as a semantic restriction

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty for my operating systems class im making bootable tetris efi

love?

[valid jetty]

love

[lucid trail]

Yeah i don’t have proper scoping rn

[lucid trail]

that makes sense

[valid jetty]

my scopes are extremely crude lol

[lucid trail]

i just have a stack of hashmaps

totally untested

[valid jetty]

that's exactly what i have

then lookup is just a reverse search into the hashmap array

new scope, push hashmap, end scope, pop hashmap

tho my code may be more unreadable because i also lookup globals if there is no stack variable with that name

[lucid trail]

I was super hella confused implementing if statements

i looked at your impl and decided i wouldn’t try to understand yours

[valid jetty]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

yeah mine also implements elif

not recommended

hold on i'll find a commit before elif

[lucid trail]

in the end it was only like 50 lines

My problem was with adding merge instructions after returns, which is forbidden

[valid jetty]

https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/46e23cdd0e9bc3333e4c3fa409a59f862236b66e/src/compiler/codegen/if_stmt.rs before elif..

much simpler

[valid jetty]

ah i see

[deep mulch]

rewrite elle in elle when

[lucid trail]

i should rewrite mine in ocaml

[valid jetty]

• compile condition
• jump to true label if condition is true, otherwise jump to else label (or jump to the end of the if statement if there is no else block)
• generate the stmt body
• generate the else body

elif makes it much more annoying

[lucid trail]

i also thought parsing if cond {} was gonna be way harder but i made my parser so good i can even do if {cond} {}

[valid jetty]

if you think my if stmt code is bad look at the fucking ternary one https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/src/compiler/codegen/ternary.rs

[lucid trail]

fuck that i’m not adding ternaries

[valid jetty]

uhhh theyre not thaat bad on paper

[lucid trail]

why need it when you can do let x = if cond {1} else {2}

[valid jetty]

hold on im getting to that

[lucid trail]

I’ve really been appreciating expression oriented languages after learning racket

[valid jetty]

the true and false path of the ternary may be different types that can be converted from one to another, however the final value must be a single type, so you need to know the type of both to determine what the final type is

so for example x ? 1u64 : 0u8

the 0u8 needs to be promoted to u64, and you can figure that out by compiling both exprs and seeing which type is considered higher weight (for example, u64 has a higher weight than u8)

HOWEVER what if you instead have x ? 1u8 : 0u64

you dont know whether you need to cast one up or down until you compile both (to get their type)

however if you compile both you need to compile them again (since the final result is only a single type)

so either you:

• compile both into a scratch module (basically compile just to get the type, and void the actual IR generated)
• do what i did

in mine, i only compile both once in the actual true and false place, then do the cast, now that i know both of their types, then the value is a phi instruction (which is a different value depending on where the control flow came from)

which also means i need to propagate some temporaries through about 2 blocks otherwise qbe will think they may be undefined

[deep mulch]

long

[lucid trail]

you don’t do type resolution in a previous pass?

[valid jetty]

uhh not in this model no

any astnode may be compiled to provide a different type depending on where its compiled

[lucid trail]

interesting

[valid jetty]

but yeah my code essentially does that thing above, thats why its so long

[lucid trail]

my types are written on the ast nodes themselves

[valid jetty]

in some cases the types may be unknown so i dont really do that

like in a generic function

[lucid trail]

Ah yeah I did not build it with generics in mind

[valid jetty]

actually this model is before i realized i must know the resulting type upfront

so this is wrong

[lucid trail]

It’s not exactly clear either

[valid jetty]

but yeah in a ternary, if the types are different, you need to know the result type upfront, but you cant do that unless you generate the type of both nodes first to see which casts to which

(or use a phi :33333)

[lucid trail]

:3

[valid jetty]

here it does all the casting for the ternary then promotes up to f32 for the variable declaration

(yes, you can implicitly promote i32 to f32)

but only in some cases

for example

or like

[lucid trail]

Im gonna do the x as T syntax

[valid jetty]

i tried that, but unfortunately grammar ambiguity with pointers

how do you differentiate x as i32 * 4 (x turned into i32, multiplied by 4) and x as i32* 4 (as as i32*, and then 4 the syntax error)

[lucid trail]

I think using ^ and @ could work

like pascal

I haven't thought about it much yet

hmm, that still conflicts with other symbols possibly

[valid jetty]

you can probably do it if your pointer syntax is *T instead of T*

*T the type and *x the expr can be disambiguated as long as you have a contextual grammar

ie, types can only appear in particular places and you cant have an expr and type in the same place

tbh im sorry for shoving all this information to you lol

it would probably be better for learning if you tried what you think and then saw why it cant work

[lucid trail]

it's super interesting

[valid jetty]

also this is a very rust error

[lucid trail]

it is

i think they have great error messages

it's a major reason i love rust so much

[valid jetty]

true me too

my error messages are a bit of a step down i feel

[lucid trail]

i mean having proper span displays are already enough, really. It's not like my errors actually have tips

or smart suggestions

the fact rust does is just insane

[valid jetty]

lmao yeah true

i give tips where i can

[lucid trail]

what has me most impressed are those x borrowed here, consider removing this &

[valid jetty]

yeah

tho the rust compiler is very complex

lmao

[lucid trail]

god the type checking i have rn is so questionable

[valid jetty]

you may enjoy https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/src/compiler/lib/can_convert.rs and https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/src/compiler/lib/convert.rs and https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/src/compiler/lib/weighted_cast.rs but idk

[lucid trail]

@valid jetty does elle have coroutines or threads

[valid jetty]

nope not really

you can probably write async code using libpthread

but there's nothing built in for it

[deep mulch]

elle will soon

[solid gazelle]

67

[deep mulch]

6️⃣ 7️⃣

[valid jetty]

i was working on ichigo linking with C code and i accidentally made 67

this was NOT intentional

[solid gazelle]

@valid jetty can you make new language

[valid jetty]

that's like

exactly what i'm doing

[solid gazelle]

no make new one

[valid jetty]

like

that isn't elle or ichigo

[solid gazelle]

make lang without [e-mail]#0000

nvm

[valid jetty]

you can't exactly do that

[solid gazelle]

make a DSL @valid jetty

[valid jetty]

even if you get rid of functions as long as you have labels you can still basically make functions

ichigo is a dsl..

[solid gazelle]

dsl for patching hermes bytecode

[deep mulch]

make a Kotlin style dsl @valid jetty

[solid gazelle]

make xml to opengl converter

[deep mulch]

Soon

make xml programming language @valid jetty

[solid gazelle]

what if you type in winui xml and it converts to gl shader

[fleet cedar]

What if you type in winui xml and it outputs a picture of a hotdog no matter the input

[valid jetty]

i can make an elle backend for that lol

[winged mantle]

just realising const is actually pretty useful

go needs to stop

to be fair, languages which properly support const is a minority

at least, most interpreted langs support Type *const but not const Type *

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty make elle run on billions of devices

[royal nymph]

Elle runs on a billion devices

[jade stone]

thanks webstorm

[deep mulch]

love?

[winged mantle]

i am writing go as intended

[winged mantle]

context: i was going to write a function which wraps things in a mutex lock and wanted to enforce immutability if you use RLock()

but then i realised i should write functions as i need them and not preemptively write functions which might not even make sense

i'm not very good at threading...

i have rarely used mutexes lol

i don't think it's rocket science though..

[winged mantle]

i don't think i ever want to use an ide again...

[valid jetty]

genuinely good IDE

[winged mantle]

i mean let's say this is a text editor and the jetbrains suite, visual studio is an ide

i would rather use a souped up text editor than an IDE

i mean to be fair the line feels pretty blurry

i think i have argued vscode is an ide before

i guess IDEs are generally just a slower version of the same thing

[winged mantle]

i hate how the menu bar opens on hover instead of click!!

at least with show_menus: true

[pseudo sierra]

https://neovim.io/

[winged mantle]

neovim is my current editor

it actually made me use features like splits

i never used it on vscode

I can't get ts-go lsp working on my outdated version of neovim

[deep mulch]

https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

[crude star]

i love nvim until my plugins keep throwing undecipherable errors

[nimble bone]

https://cursor.com

[signal shell]

does anyone know if using a vpn circumvents quest region restrictions on quests

[nimble bone]

tryitandsee

also #🧊-off-topic-iceman-only

[deep mulch]

@nimble bone@nimble bone@nimble bone@nimble bone@nimble bone@nimble bone

[signal shell]

oh my bad

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty bs ahh university forces you to use the method that they teach for everything

Please be sure to read the module information leaflet, which you can find in the "Newsgroup and Important Information" section.

And complete all assignments using only the module content.

Methods other than those used in this module may result in a loss of points.

what if i wanted to use chatgpt to solve it???

[hoary sluice]

idk what youd use zed for

kotlin/java use intellij
c/rust use nvim
js/ts use nvim or webstorm

also i couldnt get zed to run on nix properly

[frosty obsidian]

zed is closer to a vscode

[winged mantle]

idk after switching to nvim it feels weird that you'd use an editor with an input method based on user friendliness rather than efficiency

[spark tiger]

i use it for everything except c#

[winged mantle]

you can learn loads of shortcuts but at that point why not just learn vim

[shrewd canopy]

I use vscode usually for everything
But for android/JVM i use android studio/intellij
For c/c++ its CLion or Visual Studio
For C# its visual studio

[valid jetty]

292../

[winged mantle]

vscode is solid

my main reason for switching was ai slop

and other things which are against things i value with software

i was using like 3 propriatory editors as a part of my workflow

vscode, clion, sublime

i was also using kate

[shrewd canopy]

not like it matters for me

i use a lot of proprietary software

[shrewd canopy]

i usually ignore the ai slop

[terse granite]

where is the source ccode

[shrewd canopy]

its right below

[terse granite]

thx

[terse granite]

ive checked that alr

which

[shrewd canopy]

what?

[terse granite]

how can i clone the repository

[fleet cedar]

With git clone, typically

Or the "download as zip" button on github if you just want the code and not the repo

[terse granite]

thx

ill check a tuto

im slow

[runic sundial]

I love CLion

[royal nymph]

v+ no prog

[deep mulch]

vee so mean

[dense sand]

Progaming only

[fleet cedar]

No amateur gaming here

[spark tiger]

I guess you could say he wasn’t a PROgamer 😂

[deep mulch]

evil

[winged mantle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1o0mhw8/x11_xorg_logo_spotted_in_italy/

[opal vessel]

i hate living here dawg

[supple whale]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/nzb-file

gotta love standardised API's

implemented an entire protocol, with network pooling etc

and all you need to do is interact with a W3C File object to use it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1364285983461478531.webp?size=48&name=absolutecinema

[deep mulch]

@jade stone guh

what do i choose

i ahte react

so no react

[jade stone]

react

if not that, i'd go vue

i don't have enough experience to hate it

but i also don't have enough to love it

[deep mulch]

which gets me the furthest away from markup language

i want markdown

[jade stone]

if you just want markdown, then find something you can use mdx with

[deep mulch]

sleepy satan

[jade stone]

@deep mulch https://mdxjs.com/

[deep mulch]

why does it say Ceasefire now! 🕊️

i literally just made the project

[jade stone]

disable noImplicitAny in tsconfig

[deep mulch]

is that a workaround or just normal to do

[paper scroll]

ew never use any

[deep mulch]

ive heard that was good

ive heard it was a solid choice

[jade stone]

solid insane

[deep mulch]

react so ulgy

[jade stone]

splitProps in solid is insane

using class instead of className is insane

not being able to destructure is insane

[deep mulch]

splitSadans

[jade stone]

needing to do mergeProps for defaults is insane

[deep mulch]

mergeSatans

[jade stone]

@deep mulch i made an intellij plugin

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1335058334335893604/1425314979116089495/2025-10-07_22-51-58.mp4?ex=68e72384&is=68e5d204&hm=7c0ea785e15923d896727dee316a23decb85690b55d256073052f2a3c5bc5dcd&

[deep mulch]

@grog tell satan how to remove audio input from obs

is that stock feature

i thoughti was

[jade stone]

nope

porting it from vscode

@zealous fjord just made my first (simple) intellij plugin and i think i would go insane if i made anything remotely complex

[frosty obsidian]

it is a stock feature

oh nvm thats terminal not shell

don't really see how that's better than krunner or wofi though

[jade stone]

opens in project dir

it's a feature i use all the time in vscode (i don't use the integrated terminal)

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian sleep

[zealous fjord]

Tell me about it

I actually forgot I was gonna bring my plugin up to parity Eventually™ so thanks for the reminder

[jade stone]

Tbh don’t

I’ve been prepping my version to move to lsp

[zealous fjord]

Fair

[jade stone]

I haven’t started it yet, but the parsing is in separate packages

All you really need to do is hook up the LSP methods

This is all the vscode extension really is rn

Just a bunch of files like this https://github.com/sadan4/VencordCompanion/blob/main/src/ast/webpack/lsp/ReferenceProvider.ts

[pearl stag]

No content was returned. Provided file is either too long, a markdown file, or not plaintext.

No content was returned. Provided file is either too long, a markdown file, or not plaintext.

[zealous fjord]

Interesting

I dunno when I'll next have time to dive into it anyway but I'll have a look through that at some point

[royal nymph]

i wanna try solid

this seems insane

i hate this so much

i would use it personally

but it's still cursed that u have to do that

wtf is show

[winged mantle]

it shows things

solid is nice but i found it hard as a beginner due to less resources

[plain mortar]

is it possible to specify and route all of the Vencord client's traffic through a custom local SOCKS5 proxy? is there a plugin or something for that

[royal nymph]

chromium proxy flags

[plain mortar]

right tysm

[drifting yarrow]

im kinda new to css.. in #snippets channel i saw ppls saying that using a[href="..."] is bad, so i was curious, is this approach good? or doesnt matter still bad? or they are too paranoid? ```css
/* Remove useless buttons from Friends Tab /
/ a[href="/shop"] {
display: none;
} */
.channel__972a0:not(.dm__972a0) .link__972a0[href="/shop"] {
display: none;
}

-# .channel__972a0:not(.dm__972a0) .link__972a0[href="/shop"] is where THAT href is, so it points exactly there, for context

[placid cape]

dont touch it if it works ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[placid cape]

each page in a different framework 🔥

[placid cape]

i use zed for everything except intellij for java, rubymine for ruby

[winged mantle]

puts
Puts stands for "put shit". Use this to write whatever worthless garbage you want to vomit on to the screen.

???

[eternal verge]

I thought this was real life, wtf? This dude is making video games more realistic than modern AAA titles

[drifting yarrow]

💀 okie

[deep mulch]

evil

[placid cape]

yea

[valid jetty]

decoding utf16 le into utf16 be tends to give back chinese @hoary sluice

theres no way this is a coincidence

it doesnt mean anything

i dont think

[fleet cedar]

It's just random letters

[valid jetty]

but who couldve guessed that reversing the order of the bytes turns english characters into chinese characters

[fleet cedar]

Makes sense to me since U+4E00-9FFF are CJK Unified Ideographs

[valid jetty]

true

[winged mantle]

government interference

[jade stone]

lc.ocrtr

[visual shell]

-# <:i:1363558878872080414> ​ 🇯🇵  Japanese   ​ ​ ​​<:i:1363556471303831552> ​ ​ ​ ​🇺🇸  English  

Type
'hello'.encode('utf-16-le').decode('utf-16-be')
>>>>
'栀攀氈氈漀'```

Google Lens • labsCore

[fleet cedar]

It got the nega-l wrong

氀, not 氈

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice @deep mulch @royal nymph i had a really good idea

function arrWithFractionalIndices<T>(arr: T[]) {
    return new Proxy(arr, {
        get(target, prop: string, receiver) {
            if (!isNaN(+prop)) {
                return (Reflect.get(target, String(Math.ceil(+prop)), receiver) * (1 - +prop))
                    + (Reflect.get(target, String(Math.floor(+prop)), receiver) * +prop);
            }

            return Reflect.get(target, prop, receiver);
        },

        set(target, prop: string, value: T, _) {
            if (!isNaN(+prop)) {
                target.splice(Math.ceil(+prop), 0, value);
            }

            return true;
        }
    })
}

[lucid trail]

this is more intuitive than insert

and https://github.com/irony/aspipes

[placid cape]

😭

[supple whale]

perish

i hate this

this is fucking cursed

i love it

but fuck you

XD

[royal nymph]

fix

[valid jetty]

why are you trying to destructure using it huskkk

also look at this

// @ts-nocheck
globalThis.res = null;

function pipe(_) { return globalThis.res; };
function _(v: any) { return +(globalThis.res = v); }

Object.defineProperty(Function.prototype, Symbol.toPrimitive, {
    value: function() {
        globalThis.res = this(globalThis.res);
        return true;
    },
    writable: true,
    configurable: true
});

pipe(_(13) 
    == (x => x * 2)
    == (x => x - 1)
    == (x => `${x}!!`)
    == console.log);

pipe(_(12) == console.log);
pipe(_([1, 2, 3]) == (x => x.map(y => y * 2)) == console.log);

piping using ==

[valid jetty]

inspired by this

but doesnt require wrapping anything

well at least not every function

[valid jetty]

actually this works for any primitive-coercing operator interestingly enough

[deep mulch]

😭

i think this is possible to replicate in kotler

[valid jetty]

look at my pipe

[deep mulch]

nop

[valid jetty]

im not writing that out again

read if you want or not idk

good night

[deep mulch]

nini

[gilded surge]

i will go insane

undef behaviour so cursed even the rustc devs have no clue if it counts

lazy statics it is i guess

[winged mantle]

insane

https://chuniversiteit.nl/papers/why-snake-case-is-better-than-camel-case

[jagged pelican]

They sure come by it honest

[hoary sluice]

ThisIsNotCamelCaseItsPascalCase

i think we should use kebab case

[frosty obsidian]

erm actually pascal case is just a special name for upper camel case

[fleet cedar]

They are called camelCase and CamelCase

[winged mantle]

they're called lowerCamelCase and CamelCase

[fleet cedar]

CamelCase vs dromedaryCase

[winged mantle]

lmao

[winged mantle]

am i strange for using java in vscode

[jade stone]

Nop

[winged mantle]

thank you

it actually seems really nice...

it's like eclipse but nicer ui

which, i'm pretty sure is the main thing that turns people away... well I always felt like the acftual language support was good enough

[jade stone]

TIL

The V8 JavaScript VM uses parentheses around function expressions as an optimization hint to immediately compile the function. Otherwise the function would be lazily-compiled, which has additional overhead if that function is always called immediately as lazy compilation involves parsing the function twice. You can read V8's blog post about this for more details.

[ivory heath]

How does V8 know what to compile before usage?

[jade stone]

wdym

this is talking about function expressions

not functions in general

[ivory heath]

Oh expressions >.>

Nvm

[jade stone]

thanks vscode

this view is legible and easy to read

[hoary sluice]

ts is so annoying

like i just wanted to ask a question not be glazed

bro just tell me

im a backend engineer now

@valid jetty

😭

@valid jetty will yuo be my llm

[jade stone]

why is my bundle now 8mb

[tired vigil]

@jade stone

[lucid trail]

prompt issue

better become a better prompt engineer

[jade stone]

found an infinite recursion bug in pnpm

[jade stone]

https://github.com/pnpm/pnpm/issues/10060

[deep mulch]

fake

[jade stone]

nop

[jade stone]

?remind 3hr report vscode invalid terminal path suggestions when in $d and completing some-cmd <some-char-other-than-dot>./$d/thing

[delicate grove]

Alright @jade stone, in 3 hours: report vscode invalid terminal path suggestions when in $d and completing some-cmd <some-char-other-than-dot>./$d/thing

[valid jetty]

Excellent! You're on the right track — here's the precise answer to your question, with no nonsense and yapping:

no

@hoary sluice @deep mulch do

this is my homework

[hoary sluice]

rosie i have my own math now

and its easier than yours

and its university math

🤣

[hoary sluice]

i have no idea how to even start

this is the first task of the first assignment

i havent looked into it yet

[valid jetty]

this isnt that bad lol

[hoary sluice]

but i see golden ratio

[hoary sluice]

and you can just chatgpt it

and im pretty sure the exam is online

[valid jetty]

its actually surprisingly pretty easy

[hoary sluice]

and if you fail the exam you can try again four times

[valid jetty]

its just a very evil model of volumes of revolution

[hoary sluice]

if you know how to do it then its easy yes

[valid jetty]

this is my working for the 4 parts

like barely any

[hoary sluice]

where does volume of revolution come into play here

[valid jetty]

for calculating the volume of the bottle

[hoary sluice]

you might as well do a math bachelor

[valid jetty]

you do volume of revolution for this curved part

using the equation you found in a)

and then find the volume of the rest normally, as theyre rectangles

and add together

wait

oh my god

im so smart

i sent you the wrong question

😭

maybe i am the llm after all

@hoary sluice

[valid jetty]

for this one its also kinda easy, you do intersection with a plane

[hoary sluice]

oh

[hoary sluice]

matrices 🤢

[valid jetty]

those are vectors..

[hoary sluice]

theyre 1d matrices

[valid jetty]

this is the equation of a line

the first vector is the starting point on the line and the lambda term is the direction vector

[hoary sluice]

i could probably do this in may

[valid jetty]

do it

[hoary sluice]

its october

i forgot math

[valid jetty]

this is the last question on my homework lmao

[hoary sluice]

why tf is ur school so hard

[valid jetty]

can you do this

[hoary sluice]

who is Argand

[valid jetty]

complex plane

[hoary sluice]

idk what that is

[valid jetty]

uhhhh

im and re axis

that plane

[hoary sluice]

oh

gauss plane

gauss number system

[valid jetty]

sure

[hoary sluice]

or something

[valid jetty]

??? this is just complex numbers

imaginary numbers

idk how you were tought it

[valid jetty]

oh sure

[hoary sluice]

idk what im supposed to do here

it looks like gibberish

[valid jetty]

well shade the region

[hoary sluice]

i can understand that z is a complex number

and that there are sets involved

and theres a magic black box function called arg

the real part of z - 1 - i is less than 3

i think

is that helpful

[valid jetty]

|z - 1 - i| <= 3 is a circle centered at (1 + i) with radius 3

pi/4 <= arg(z - 2) <= 3pi/4 is a line at (2 + 0i) with angle pi/4 and 3pi/4

[hoary sluice]

here u go

[valid jetty]

lmao

[hoary sluice]

why is it a circle

[valid jetty]

you know x^2 + y^2 = r^2

[hoary sluice]

no

[valid jetty]

guh

[hoary sluice]

i know a^2 + b^2 = c^2

rosie i told you i dont know math

i know like

graph theory

maybe

like grap theory theory

i cant actually compute any problems

i can maybe wirte a bfs

[deep mulch]

nerd detected

[deep mulch]

I hate word problems

why is your homework always word problems

[valid jetty]

surely you know the general equation of a circle thats not even like advanced math

[deep mulch]

what even is that

[jade stone]

£

[valid jetty]

😭 thats just z

[deep mulch]

WHO WRITES Z LIKE THAT

[valid jetty]

meeee

[jade stone]

nop

[valid jetty]

i write in cursive

[deep mulch]

horrible

[jade stone]

Nobody writes it like that

[deep mulch]

@jade stone

[valid jetty]

this one is not that bad

[deep mulch]

spooky sadan

[hoary sluice]

no 😭

[deep mulch]

Rosie thinks everyone has a doctorate in math

[hoary sluice]

theres supposed to be pi there

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice does this make sense at least

[hoary sluice]

theres no pi in your equation

[valid jetty]

why

would there be pi

[hoary sluice]

no

[jade stone]

Any time I try to develop something I always find bugs in my tools/env, and go and fix/report those so I never finish anything.

[hoary sluice]

its a circle

[valid jetty]

???

youre defining the equation of the circle

pi comes in when you wanna find stuff about the circle

like circumfrence or area

[hoary sluice]

oh youre defining the radius

ok

[valid jetty]

well

its an equation in terms of x and y

[hoary sluice]

just agree with me please

[valid jetty]

😭

ok

[hoary sluice]

i wont understand anything anyways

[valid jetty]

wtf are you guys taught in school

[hoary sluice]

maybe in february

[deep mulch]

normal math

[hoary sluice]

when im done with examfs

in math

[hoary sluice]

not this

[deep mulch]

I think I'd have to major in math to even learn what Rosie is doing

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch what math are you taught

send

[hoary sluice]

and i forgot most stuff we got taught in school anyways

[deep mulch]

same

[valid jetty]

love?

[hoary sluice]

what is inductino

thats the

inductor

like the component

[valid jetty]

its like a process you just follow every time

[hoary sluice]

you make wireless charging and wireless cooking with it

[fleet cedar]

Induction is the most common way to prove things for infinite sets

[valid jetty]

þat ^

[deep mulch]

I didn't learn sets notation until college

[valid jetty]

and just in general

[hoary sluice]

please dont join the thorn cult rosie

[valid jetty]

I LOVE THORN

[fleet cedar]

Join the porn cult instead

[hoary sluice]

its unneccessary

[valid jetty]

þorn

[hoary sluice]

i dont want an odd number of letters

i want a symmetrical keyboard layout

[valid jetty]

and anyway it was accidental

[fleet cedar]

How do you thorn by accident

[valid jetty]

my message contained ^ at the beginning

[deep mulch]

???

[valid jetty]

because i did "^ this"

[deep mulch]

why

[hoary sluice]

just use th

[valid jetty]

th

þ

[deep mulch]

Rosie is so WEIRD

@valid jetty Freaky Rosie

[valid jetty]

i knew it but only because i was doing calculus very early on

[hoary sluice]

im just now noticing its not symmetrical at all and thorn wouldnt hurt

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice can you do ODEs

[hoary sluice]

i think i learned set notation from oc

aoc

[hoary sluice]

i used to be able to

[deep mulch]

I didn't even learn calculus until college and that was pre calculus

rosie insane

[hoary sluice]

it was like the

e to teh power of both sides

[valid jetty]

yeah but you dont do math in your free time lol

[hoary sluice]

at some point

[deep mulch]

yes caus I am normal

@valid jetty only nerds do thet

[hoary sluice]

rosie we have more important stuff todo

that high school math

like obviously we know high school math

[deep mulch]

I have work

[hoary sluice]

🤣

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty @valid jetty

[hoary sluice]

me too so i have to use my free time on personal projects instead of discord

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch

[deep mulch]

I forgot how to do derivatives

I just remember taking an entire sheet of paper to solve just one

[hoary sluice]

this is not an ode

[deep mulch]

@hoary sluice Rosie is crazy

[hoary sluice]

you have a d squared

thats a de

not an ode

[valid jetty]

i am aware

[hoary sluice]

ok

[valid jetty]

do this

[hoary sluice]

so you think i cant solve an ode but zoo tcan solve a non o de

[fleet cedar]

Derivatives are easy, it's just a traversal over the AST

[hoary sluice]

finally something familiar

[hoary sluice]

whats an integrating factor

[deep mulch]

what's cot

I forgot

[fleet cedar]

Cotangent, 1/tan

[spark tiger]

i feel smart for the first time in this channel haha :)))

[spark tiger]

nvm

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty 50 pounds per math exam solved for me?

[valid jetty]

@spark tiger

[deep mulch]

faint would ask ai

freaky faint

[spark tiger]

yeah ik the first part but i have no idea what’s happening after “assuming”

[fleet cedar]

My favorite trig function is ||archacovercosine||

[spark tiger]

why your math has bisexuals LMAOO

[valid jetty]

its when you have dy/dx + P(x)y = Q(x)

the goal is to find some function h(x) such that the lhs becomes the derivative of a product instead

[fleet cedar]

I'm glad integrals and diffeqs don't exist in real life

[hoary sluice]

me too

[hoary sluice]

you could have said almost anything here and i would probably still believe it

[deep mulch]

rosie reminds the teacher when they forget to hand out homework

[spark tiger]

we all do this no???

[fleet cedar]

I have never once forgotten to hand out homework

[spark tiger]

are you a teacher

[fleet cedar]

No

[deep mulch]

Yes

[valid jetty]

learn complex numbers

[spark tiger]

lc.tr -to russian

[valid jetty]

eagely has learnt complex numbers he should know

[visual shell]

-# <:i:1323844562875187291> Translated from 🇺🇸 English to 🇷🇺 Russian • Google Translate
выучить комплексные числа

[spark tiger]

oh okay

we learning matrixes and stereometry rn

[valid jetty]

MATRICES

[fleet cedar]

Complexes aren't hard, they're just rotors in R²

[spark tiger]

wha

is it not matriX 😭

[valid jetty]

nono it is

[spark tiger]

oh

[fleet cedar]

Plural form of matrix is matrices

[spark tiger]

oh ic

[valid jetty]

i just want an excuse to post more questions

[spark tiger]

oh that’s easy

[valid jetty]

yeah

[lucid trail]

@valid jetty what do you for error handling i know you use elle_error!, where does that get collected and stuff

[spark tiger]

at least the a-b part cuz i’m not sure what c is at least yet

[valid jetty]

exit(1) on first error atm

in release*

in debug its panic

i havent added proper collection yet

[lucid trail]

oh i'm doing collection and it's really messy

[spark tiger]

nvm idk what M^(-1) is either

[valid jetty]

inverse of the matrix

[spark tiger]

yeah we haven’t learned it yet

[lucid trail]

prolly say it's line/point intersectionn

[deep mulch]

i dont think ive ever learnt complex numbers in my education

[valid jetty]

its 1/detM * (cofactor matrix of M) transposed

at least thats the most common way to do it

[deep mulch]

none of those are real words

[fleet cedar]

The matrix that if you multiply it by the original, you get the identity matrix

[spark tiger]

and not sure if we ever will in hs cuz our teacher said we’re not even supposed to learn it until uni but the school program updated so now we do and it’s like a few hours which as she says isn’t enough to learn matrices

[spark tiger]

scary

[valid jetty]

@spark tiger can you do these

[spark tiger]

i need some cool site for stereometry tasks tho

[spark tiger]

uhh lemme read

[spark tiger]

nop idk what transformation is

[valid jetty]

okieee

one day i will find someone in this server who can do these

[fleet cedar]

It's when you use matrices for geometry

[valid jetty]

yeah

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty you havent done stoichiometry

[fleet cedar]

That word is not in the bible

[valid jetty]

theyre slightly more limited than actual transformations as they act upon the whole plane defined by the matrix

aka from the origin

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty become a professor at this point

[spark tiger]

oh yeah no the only practical use case we had for matrices yet was solving “systems” of equations or what you call them in english

[valid jetty]

but theyre still useful

[deep mulch]

rosie probably smarter than my professors

[valid jetty]

im not even that good at maths

people im friends with are way better

[deep mulch]

wtf is the uk doing

insane

[lucid trail]

oh yeah which uni are you going to. i dont remember what you said about textiles

[valid jetty]

im putting that on hold for now

i wanna go to edinburgh or leeds

[spark tiger]

hey you should go to moscow there are good unis here :))

the only downside is that almost every free spot is already taken

[lucid trail]

i might be able to do this

even though i haven't learned anything about matrices

[valid jetty]

its like

kinda easy

[lucid trail]

yeah i can see that

[valid jetty]

fyi you are given this in the exam

the only hard-ish part is d)

and even that isnt that bad

[deep mulch]

i thin k idid matrices once in 12th grade then literally never again

[valid jetty]

my answer if you wanna check your working

[deep mulch]

i cant read that

[valid jetty]

zoot is blind

[deep mulch]

yop

@valid jetty hii

[lucid trail]

nice

[valid jetty]

handwriting is so satisfying

(question)

[deep mulch]

how

i hate handwriting

[lucid trail]

handwriting on pen and paper is even better than on ipad

[deep mulch]

yop

[lucid trail]

it's reading week next week

what should i do

[deep mulch]

read dantes inferno

[valid jetty]

i have a paperlike screen protector

its fucking awesome

i got it a few weeks ago

its sooooo much better than before

[lucid trail]

i used one of those for a while

texture doesn't beat paper and it makes the colors on the display quite a bit worse

especially the blacks

[valid jetty]

to me it does beat paper, at least with the pens im using

[lucid trail]

good stationery is amazing

[deep mulch]

rose is cra y

roie

guh

[lucid trail]

i should do this

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty i will learn morse code

i wanna be able to do 15 wpm at least

someday

[valid jetty]

this is proof by induction @deep mulch

for this

[deep mulch]

what is that

[valid jetty]

positive integers

[valid jetty]

basically the premise is,

put n = 1 into it and verify its true

assume n = k

prove true for n = k + 1

which you try to do by rearranging to make the rhs be in terms of k + 1

then if true for n = k, its true for n = k + 1

and since you proved it true for n = 1 it must be true AnEZ+

[deep mulch]

https://cachemonet.com/src/center/newport.gif

[deep mulch]

i absolutely hated proofs

[delicate grove]

@thorny prism, <t:1725999122:R>: do NOT like js

[deep mulch]

agree

[valid jetty]

they're fine

easy marks

[deep mulch]

*points

[lucid trail]

thats what math is about

[deep mulch]

nop

these stupid rules

hated so much

[jade stone]

is there any point in doing this in javascript

[delicate grove]

@jade stone, <t:1760031565:R>: report vscode invalid terminal path suggestions when in $d and completing some-cmd <some-char-other-than-dot>./$d/thing

[jade stone]

soon

pnpm has insane lint settings

warning for that but not for mixing && and || without parens

[deep mulch]

@jade stone

[valid jetty]

????????????

xor 0 is a noop

[deep mulch]

Satan is crazy

[jade stone]

iirc in javascript, bitwise ops also coerce to 32-bit int

but it doesn't make sense to use xor for that

also that's something you add a comment for

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Math/trunc#using_bitwise_no-ops_to_truncate_numbers

[valid jetty]

+x

[jade stone]

INSANE

[royal nymph]

WHAT IS THIS CODE

[jade stone]

take a guess

[royal nymph]

the mysterious maybe boolean is real??

[jade stone]

tbh i'm going to pr to remove the dead code and see what they think/say

[royal nymph]

WHYYYY https://github.com/pnpm/pnpm/blob/1b15e45ae949485ba9b9bfd4e079b551ab7d8819/config/config/src/index.ts#L478-L490

[pearl stag]

index.ts: Lines 478-490

if (typeof pnpmConfig['color'] === 'boolean') {
  switch (pnpmConfig['color']) {
  case true:
    pnpmConfig.color = 'always'
    break
  case false:
    pnpmConfig.color = 'never'
    break
  default:
    pnpmConfig.color = 'auto'
    break
  }
}

[jade stone]

tbh idk what's worse

the inconsistent access syntax or the unreachable code

[jade stone]

typescript is pretty unhelpful here

[deep mulch]

smelly @jade stone

[royal nymph]

im gonna switch to bun

[jade stone]

it doesn't switch based of the typeof

which kinda makes sense

but at the same time, typeof will always be correct at runtime

[royal nymph]

it does

it's never because they typed it wrong

typescript is saying the condition is never true

[jade stone]

i don't think it's typed wrong, my guess is this is for backwards-compat with old configs

[royal nymph]

thats why color is never

[winged mantle]

unsafe block in js

[jade stone]

@royal nymph however cursed pnpm's code is, their scripts are 10000x worse

they have

• flat out broken scripts (watch)
• scripts that run eslint on the whole repo, without using eslint's cache (all build/test scripts)

[ornate quiver]

how does pnpm even function

insane

[jade stone]

have you seen their repo layout

monorepo with 1000000 packages

[worldly sigil]

create the ultimate package manager with everything bad of npm, yarn, pnpm, and maybe throw in something from cargo too

[jade stone]

lc.google gradle

[visual shell]

blog.gradle.org

The Gradle Blog

Welcome to Gradle Build Tool Blog. Here's some of the posts you can look forward to if you subscribe. Looking for the Developer Productivity Engineering Blog?

Google Search • labsCore • Page 1/20

[gilded surge]

[worldly sigil]

[deep mulch]

how

[jade stone]

how does this work

[worldly sigil]

free recursive package in your package manager

[deep mulch]

Gradle

[granite frost]

what the wingd is that username

[strange matrix]

henlo
using

* {
  font-family: "some-font";
}

doesn't work anymore in the vesktop quickcss editor
did something happen?

[fleet cedar]

vns

[elder yarrow]

👉 #🏥-vencord-support-🏥

[strange matrix]

well i imagined the support would be for the program not working

i guess it is

[eternal dawn]

can someone fix this for me?

[jade stone]

thanks eslint, very cool

[jade stone]

why even have a parser option if it's disabled

[deep mulch]

love

[supple whale]

https://oxc.rs/blog/2025-10-09-oxlint-js-plugins

holy fuck they did it

[jade stone]

oh shit

that's really cool

might look into migrating to it

oh

i care the most about eslint.style

[supple whale]

that's insane

almost drop in replacement for eslint

that's over X10 faster

[deep mulch]

@jade stone sleepy sadan

[jade stone]

almost drop in replacement for eslint
this initial release does not implement all of eslint's public API

[deep mulch]

guh im so eepy @jade stone

fix

[jade stone]

[inland palm]

i hate docker

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542264318465671170/1426341278974611476/Screen_Recording_2025-10-10_at_23.48.57.mov?ex=68eadf55&is=68e98dd5&hm=14851e90179626655175d0c9b815da4466640c5fd08e31bb8f4c1b3d1c959357&

[lucid trail]

Newtons' fractal that newton didn't know about

[deep mulch]

wobbly

@valid jetty What is the frequency deviation for a 12.21 MHz reactance modulated oscillator in a 5 kHz deviation, 146.52 MHz FM phone transmitter?

A.
416.7 Hz
B.
5 kHz
C.
101.75 Hz
D.
60 kHz

@valid jetty
What transformer turns ratio matches an antenna’s 600-ohm feed point impedance to a 50-ohm coaxial cable?

A.
12 to 1
B.
3.5 to 1
C.
144 to 1
D.
24 to 1

[inland palm]

giving winboat a try

neat

[valid jetty]

is everyone also recommended this video 😭

[inland palm]

from what i understand it basically runs a windows vm in a docker container and overlays the windows like that one virtualbox plugin

[valid jetty]

its 3 years old and yet it was recommended to me

[lucid trail]

yes duh

[valid jetty]

so i was like "oo i should try and make that"

so i did

[inland palm]

so you get much more accuracy over something like wine

it does mean shit that doesn't support virtualization doesn't work though

the dream of fortnite on linux is still dead

[shrewd canopy]

Solution: Use Windows

[inland palm]

windows sux

[shrewd canopy]

Nope

[valid jetty]

this is so interesting

btw i did it in elle :3 its rendering on the gpu tho

[deep mulch]

what video

send

[valid jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RdOwhmqP5s

[deep mulch]

oh it's a 3blue1brown video

yeah I'm no way I'm understanding that

I'll watch anyways

[opal vessel]

i like your funny words, magic man

[deep mulch]

[ornate quiver]

https://youtu.be/algDLvbl1YY

[winged mantle]

good channel

[nimble bone]

The Dark Side of .rushii()

[valid jetty]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/542264318465671170/1426502684508291205/lesbian4.mov?ex=68eb75a7&is=68ea2427&hm=86865fee7482acdd8d2b27dcc2840038d755ae927b35f3941dadb7ad637cc98e& @deep mulch @lucid trail i plotted a quintic

lesbian quintic..

the way i made this is extremely simple which makes it kinda crazy

the polynomial here is z^5 + z^2 - z + 1 = 0, except i'm obviously changing the roots so the function is changing

i'll push the code to github soon i guess

[winged mantle]

the kind of channel that makes me want to write rust

[inland palm]

fuck the transparency broke

oh well

[gilded surge]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-buble-gif-10430484070451118798

[lucid trail]

that’s really cool

[hoary sluice]

https://youtu.be/ukRizbUhfeM

[royal nymph]

that channel could just delete the video and remake it using their own repo

at this point they're just acting maliciously by keeping it up

oh that's exactly what he says lol

I replied before clicking on it

[hoary sluice]

vending machine

ok

[shrewd canopy]

💀

[pseudo sierra]

when the machine is vendored

[valid jetty]

they could even fucking use youtube's built in cut feature and cut that part out of the video

[deep mulch]

no swearing you're like 12

[cinder egret]

woah

dms

[ionic lake]

It's maliciously kept up

[winged mantle]

freaking*

[winged mantle]

https://learnxbyexample.com/javascript/recover/ wat

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty

induction proof easter egg

you will check my homework when im done

[valid jetty]

wtf eagely doing proof by induction??

@deep mulch hop on eagely is beating you

eagely can you do

[spark tiger]

idgi n=1 it’s so simple

[valid jetty]

for n E Z+

[spark tiger]

oh i didn’t notice the plus (nor ik what it means)

actually lemme just

[valid jetty]

that line means n is any positive integer

[spark tiger]

lc.octr -to russian

[visual shell]

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(i) Докажите по индукции, что для n = Z+
5
-8
n
4n+1
(2-3)" - (42
2n
-8n
1 - 4n
(6)```

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[valid jetty]

n is in the set of all positive integers

[spark tiger]

nvm idk what induction is either

[spark tiger]

oh

also why’re you writing Z that fancy way

here it’s just Z

not that X the everything app style Z

[valid jetty]

because that's not just a normal Z

it's an infinite set denoting all integers

Z+ means positive integers, Z- means negative integers

you write it differently to differentiate it from just a variable Z and the infinite set of integers

[spark tiger]

ueah i know but here we write it just as a regular Z 🤷‍♂️

[valid jetty]

strange

i don't think anyone writes it as a normal Z ever

[spark tiger]

i assume it’s the same for R, N and other uh what’s it called

[valid jetty]

R, N, Q, Z, C, H

[spark tiger]

yes

[valid jetty]

real, natural, rational, integer, complex, quaternion

i call it mathbb form

because that's how you write those letters in latex

[spark tiger]

interesting

[hoary sluice]

forced to at gunpoint

(algmath class)

[hoary sluice]

cant

idk what that notation even means

[spark tiger]

@@@rosie.pie send some more assignments but not as hard as this one

[hoary sluice]

u can have my homework

[spark tiger]

i said not as hard

[sleek orbit]

s

[valid jetty]

what does this mean

ok i fixed it