🪅-progaming

[winged mantle]

i fixed nonexistent issues...

probably the biggest programming sin

blasphemy...

[jade stone]

massive cache file

[crude star]

json databases

[jade stone]

not a database

it's never changed after it's written

[deep mulch]

wouldn't a database be faster for lookup

[jade stone]

no real point in using a database for this

too complex

the only thing i might do is minify the json a bit to save space

[crude star]

Aaaand this kind of pointless pedantry is why even experienced users leave projects. Ironic bringing up context, considering nobody here was honestly stupid enough to not figure out what "database" referred to in context (considering, again, there is literally only a single json file). Y'all just wanted to wave your superior technical knowledge over the 'newbie' for not using your brand of terminology – on a semantic technicality that was irrelevant to the discussion. Bye. :)

[deep mulch]

Aaaand this kind of pointless pedantry is why even experienced users leave projects. Ironic bringing up context, considering nobody here was honestly stupid enough to not figure out what "database" referred to in context (considering, again, there is literally only a single json file). Y'all just wanted to wave your superior technical knowledge over the 'newbie' for not using your brand of terminology – on a semantic technicality that was irrelevant to the discussion. Bye. :)

[valid jetty]

Aaaand this kind of pointless pedantry is why even experienced users leave projects. Ironic bringing up context, considering nobody here was honestly stupid enough to not figure out what "database" referred to in context (considering, again, there is literally only a single json file). Y'all just wanted to wave your superior technical knowledge over the 'newbie' for not using your brand of terminology – on a semantic technicality that was irrelevant to the discussion. Bye. 🙂

[winged mantle]

Aaaand this kind of pointless pedantry is why even experienced users leave projects. Ironic bringing up context, considering nobody here was honestly stupid enough to not figure out what "database" referred to in context (considering, again, there is literally only a single json file). Y'all just wanted to wave your superior technical knowledge over the 'newbie' for not using your brand of terminology – on a semantic technicality that was irrelevant to the discussion. Bye. 🙂

[supple whale]

okay typescript

thanks

like array.isArray actually breaks taht shit

its crazy

[jade stone]

my code sucks lol

[winged mantle]

hmm

i think i wanna rewrite the http part of my app in go

or rust or anything as i don't want to use a sloplang like js for something connected to the web

(dumb reason i just idk)

[lavish frigate]

good reason

[winged mantle]

i guess js is potentially more vulerable to dos

[winged mantle]

it would probably be really bad since my db access stuff is in js though

i guess i could make a transpiler

transpile simple js which only does db stuff to go

[winged mantle]

I have a great idea! create a syntax to declare db structure and then it auto generates queries!

oh? that's called an orm?

what's an o-r-m?

[nimble bone]

Aaaand this kind of pointless pedantry is why even experienced users leave projects. Ironic bringing up context, considering nobody here was honestly stupid enough to not figure out what "database" referred to in context (considering, again, there is literally only a single json file). Y'all just wanted to wave your superior technical knowledge over the 'newbie' for not using your brand of terminology – on a semantic technicality that was irrelevant to the discussion. Bye. 🙂

[winged mantle]

i guess i will just try to create more separation

[supple whale]

mmmmm im bored

saw t3 on my youtube feed [i pressed dont recommend this channel like 3 times now], saw he made a slack clone

UI doesnt let me send emojis

send a message of 100k 💅's directly via websocket

website doesnt load anymore

db error

:)))))))))

too much free time on my hands

fucking ai slop

ITS STILL HERE GOD FUCKING DAMN IT YOUTUBE HOW MANY TIMES DO I NEED TO PRESS DONT RECOMMEND

[deep mulch]

@nimble bone watch

[ornate quiver]

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/blocktube/

trolldayruined~2

[nimble bone]

[royal nymph]

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/blocktube/bbeaicapbccfllodepmimpkgecanonai

oh wait rusher sent already

didnt read chat award

[supple whale]

yeah i have a thing against installing extensions

[royal nymph]

insane

[supple whale]

they are waaaaaaaaaay too priviliged

like the perms given to extensions are fucking insane

[royal nymph]

you sound like a wokie

[supple whale]

nah i sound like a person that doesnt want to get hacked

i usually just use userscripts

or convert extensions to userscripts

because then they randomly wont auto update to include malware

as has happened 100 times in the past 6 months on chromium

the only thing more consistent than v8 0 days are extensions updating to include malware

[ornate quiver]

https://byteofdev.com/posts/making-postgres-slow/

[ornate quiver]

vee doesnt backread

silly

[deep mulch]

ohh rusher my rusher

my dear rusher

[royal nymph]

manti did this without even trying

[ornate quiver]

yoppp

https://thedailywtf.com/articles/The-Speedup-Loop

[deep mulch]

sometimes slower is better

@royal nymph make vencord slower

@royal nymph add invasive telemetry to vencord

it will be so good

trust

[supple whale]

v-ads when

so much revenue

the userbase so big

[lavish cloud]

made completely server-side quest markers
making them ignore shading was a nightmare

[runic sundial]

BLESSED

pray~1

this will save me from brainrot

i can now HIDE AI CONTENT WITH 2 CLICK

[ornate quiver]

woah

how

[supple whale]

resource pack?

[crimson sparrow]

Pushing this conf to prod

[valid jetty]

is this a sane way to do this

import patcher from '@core/patcher';
import utilities from '@utilities';
import logger from '@core/logger';

const { lazyDefine, findReact, name } = utilities;

function handler() {
    const tableNode = document.querySelector('[class*="_Table_"]');

    if (!tableNode) return;

    const Table = findReact(tableNode);

    if (!Table) return logger.debug('Failed to find React Fiber of LB Table:', Table);

    patcher.before('type', Table, (args) => {
      const users: unknown = args?.[0]?.users;

      if (Array.isArray(users)) {
        users.find(user => user?.isCurrentUser).firstName = name.firstName;
      }
    });
}

export default async function () {
  const page = await lazyDefine(() => document.querySelector('[id="root"]'), undefined, Infinity);

  const observer = new MutationObserver(mutations => {
      mutations.forEach(mutation => mutation.type === 'childList' && handler());
  });

  observer.observe(page, { childList: true, subtree: true });
  return () => observer.disconnect();
}

every time the root renders something different in the main content island, the function to patch changes and my patch indirectly gets unpatched

though idk if a mutation observer for every time the root changes ever is good for performance

but it works

[austere idol]

# gil goes vroom vroom
for filename in filenames:
    fn = join(dirname, filename)
    with open(fn, "rb") as f:
        print(fn)
        tasks.append((fn, f.read()))

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty teach me complex and imaginary numbers applying to fractals and keep it dumbed down for me

[deep mulch]

I wonder if Rosie knows quantum mechanics and thermodynamics

[winged mantle]

the first law of thermodynamics is you do not talk about thermodynamics

[dense sand]

Which font look the best with M3 design? I want to make my app look as similar as possible to the official google apps, but google sans is not open source

[nimble bone]

true

[deep mulch]

roboto

flutter or compose

[dense sand]

flutto

because my friend wants me to use it...

[deep mulch]

oh

good luck then

I've yet to see a flutter app manage to use m3 properly

font all wrong, icons wrong, colors wrong

I hate flutter

[dense sand]

damn

and should i use jetpack compose or kmp?

[deep mulch]

jetpack compose if you're just making an android app

[austere idol]

ive yet to see a flutter app manage to not look and feel like unfixable mess

[ornate quiver]

kmp is just kotlin multiplatform
compose multiplatform is the cross platform ui stuff

[ornate quiver]

yop

[supple whale]

hello frends

.text-contrast {
  color: hsl(from var(--your-color-variable) h s calc((l - 60) * -10));
  fill: hsl(from var(--your-color-variable) h s calc((l - 60) * -10));
}

goodbye

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty literally me https://youtube.com/shorts/8EP1-i-Z7eg?si=3D2Tl8FNShpqAvq7

[formal belfry]

Does anyone here know D /gen

[spark tiger]

typo

[spark tiger]

what the fuck is this supposed to mean??

[dense sand]

yes please let me edit my helm charts with blazingly fast editor

[deep mulch]

community discord selling NFTs

[spark tiger]

who does ts

[jade stone]

me when i come back to old code i wrote

[jade stone]

@nimble bone @pseudo sierra my code is so slow 😭

[pseudo sierra]

horror

[jade stone]

tbh the top 3 times are good

i can't do anything about the time it takes over the network or writing to disk

and 4s to format every discord module is really good

but the bottom 2 need work

esp since i'm computing things more than once

[jade stone]

HORROR FLAMEGRAPH

[jade stone]

lowered the bottom time by 7000ms with one simple trick

[crude star]

the bloodstreams of the damned flow through the walls of hell

[jade stone]

fun fact, it's not a good idea to parse the exact same ast twice

23k times

[deep mulch]

@crude star hii

[crude star]

hi

[runic sundial]

this looks like groovy or kotlin

or some other dynamic language

[deep mulch]

did someone say Kotlin

[runic sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/frutiger-aero-cat-silly-cat-dancing-cat-dance-frutiger-aero-gif-7880637365816484475

[deep mulch]

nop it's typescript

[runic sundial]

ok

hop on literally anything else

devilish

leave typescript

do not

do it

[deep mulch]

salad crazy

[runic sundial]

crazy? i was crazy once

NecoarcGangdam

[dense sand]

@deep mulch my friend cant stfu about flutter, do you have any proof how to show them bad m3 app in flutter

[supple whale]

yes, than you dependabot for telling me my electron compliation scripts are vulerable to attacks

i hate these crazy dependency trees

[dense sand]

Have the same error somewhere in our vue codebase, absolute pain in ass and the warning is annoying

[supple whale]

yeah its vite

i use vite for bundling my native electron code, because some guy wrote some insane tooling around it, and even tho its vite, it has the best DX for electron out of anything i've ever used

it has automatic bytecode compilation for nodejs threads [aka what browsers do for websites to speed up loading on re-visits], which speeds up nodejs load times a fuckload

it has automatic debugger attaching to all electron contexts, be it main, thread or windows

and split type declarations, so that you have different globals and libraries for the native electron code, and the UI code, so u wont randomly get nodejs types and cjs imports in ur UI code, but you will in the native nodejs threads

its still fucking vite, and i hate it, but the DX is so good its unfunny, the guy cooked

https://electron-vite.org/

[dense sand]

oh wow

[supple whale]

yeah i legit hate flutter

i worked in it twice

never fucking again

its hell

[shrewd canopy]

I like flutter idk why people hate on it
Still 1000x better than react native (🤢)

[supple whale]

you're comparing shit to garbage

sure its better

but fuck is it not a high bar

mfw will write 300 lines of code and go "ah yes finally, my single button is finished"

like breugh

[dense sand]

anyone knows what this error could be caused by?

[jade stone]

Typescript

Most of the time is in the abandoned library that I’m using

which I need to move to the updated version of

[deep mulch]

cable might be acting weird

idk

[dense sand]

im not even connected to anything 😭

anyways i downgraded and it works now

[deep mulch]

oh

interesting

[dense sand]

seems to be an arch thing

@deep mulch any idea how to get the route out of NavHostController?

i need it for my topbar, but its crashing with java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: length=3; index=2027439596

[deep mulch]

oh

there's no destinations in it

I think if you use .get instead of [] it will be nullable and not error

in your topBar

[supple whale]

generic linux shit

this isnt even an adb or android problem

it simply cant connect to the adb server

[dense sand]

yup, i had to downgrade to 35

idk why

bs

[deep mulch]

ive had errors like that but they usually go away after restarting everything

[dense sand]

Why the gap above

stop doing questionable stuff jetpack or i will be forced to use flutter

[lavish frigate]

wtf

js events are getting an upgrade

on latest chromium rn

[deep mulch]

guhh you didnt do the thing

enableEdgeToEdge

and NoActionBar style

[lavish frigate]

*.filter should be self-explanitory, .take drops the event subscription after n dispatches (.when("click").take(2) = automatically unsubscribes after you click twice)

[dense sand]

i have the first, but how do iset this?

[deep mulch]

in the styles.xml

your app theme should extend Theme.AppCompat.DayNight.NoActionBar

[supple whale]

use a webview like a real g

webview gaming

[dense sand]

i already do it

[lavish frigate]

i think the only thing i dislike about this is unsubscribing which is:

otherwise this is very cool!

[deep mulch]

use AppCompat instead of Material i think

[dense sand]

the search bar is wrapped on box, which is positioned correctly

[deep mulch]

wait

what even is GenericTopBar

[dense sand]

i tried to put it away, but it did it anyway

[deep mulch]

thats not stdlib

[dense sand]

no thats mine

[deep mulch]

why

theres already ones made

[dense sand]

it just wraps TopAppBar

i want to add extra stuff to it later

[deep mulch]

o

show the GenericTopBar function

[dense sand]

@Composable
fun GenericTopBar(
    title: String,
) {
    TopAppBar(
        colors = TopAppBarDefaults.topAppBarColors(
            containerColor = NavigationBarDefaults.containerColor
        ),
        title = { Text(text = title) }
    )
}

[deep mulch]

whers the searc bar coming from

[dense sand]

FinderScreen which is opened from SearchScreen

[deep mulch]

oh

well the top bar is still there so the search bar gets padded down

[dense sand]

well that doesnt seem to be the problem actually

Box(
        Modifier
            .fillMaxSize()
            .semantics { isTraversalGroup = true }
    ) {
        SearchBar(
            modifier = Modifier
                .align(Alignment.TopCenter)
                .semantics { traversalIndex = 0f },
            inputField = ...,
            expanded = true,
            onExpandedChange = { },
        ) {
            Column(Modifier.verticalScroll(rememberScrollState())) {
                
            }
        }
    }

if i put border on the box, its covers the whole screen, like completely

[deep mulch]

youre not applying the scaffold padding

[dense sand]

huh?

[deep mulch]

the box is on top of the scaffold because of the fill max size

https://developer.android.com/develop/ui/compose/components/scaffold

youre missing the innerPadding

[dense sand]

so applying innerPadding would uncover the top bar?

but i see the bottom bar

if i replace the SearchBar with Text, the gap goes away

so i think the problem is just in the SearchBar styling

[deep mulch]

well youre supposed to have text in the top bar or have it hidden

[dense sand]

well i said that if i remove the top bar entirely, its still there

[deep mulch]

how did you remove it

[dense sand]

i commented it out

[deep mulch]

show

[dense sand]

ended up just writing my own implementation

[deep mulch]

guh

[royal nymph]

who up zooting

oh this is programming

[winged mantle]

who up zooting

[valid jetty]

who up zooting

[runic sundial]

oi, do you have a loicence for that nickname?

questionable

[deep mulch]

loicence

[jade stone]

who up zooting

[boreal minnow]

if discord was to migrate from webpack to rspack would that break webpack related mods?

waitt

im probably asking in the wrong channel

but I don't seem to have access to #🧩-plugin-development

[ornate quiver]

likely yes

[boreal minnow]

will that mean vencord be dead?

🥺

[ornate quiver]

ofc not

[boreal minnow]

im currenly trying out rsbuild and it's so amazing, discord might think it's amazing too

[ornate quiver]

i think they might use rspack for rna on mobile?

not sure

[boreal minnow]

rsbuild fixes my vite issue related to sharing chunks with web workers and main thread

also that build time is insane

[supple whale]

vite is so fucking assssss

i dont understand why every1 loves it so much

it has so many issues its unfunny

webpack is so much better, its just slower at startup

and fucking everything now uses vite, and im forced to use it, because nothing else wants to support webpack anymore

cant even fucking use sveltekit on webpack

because its vite only....

[frosty obsidian]

i thought they already switched to it for desktop

[ornate quiver]

I don't think so?
isn't there still webpack boilerplate everywhere

also webpackChunkDiscord_app

[jade stone]

discord already uses rspack

[boreal minnow]

really?

I thought rspack and webpack had a different runtime

[boreal minnow]

rspack uses the same webpackChunk global pollution name

but it has a slightly different runtime

for example wpRequire.c doesn't exist in rspack

or maybe I'm just wrong

[boreal minnow]

after svelte became more react like, I stopped using it

I can just use react or solidjs lol

the SFC paradigm kinda suck too

it makes more sense for smaller components to be in the same file

[boreal minnow]

rspack is the best iteration, it's both fast when building for production and fast when in dev

[jade stone]

Hold on, let me send you a link.

[jade stone]

RS pack isn't the best though because it doesn't have support for all the hooks that webpack does.

@boreal minnow https://github.com/Vendicated/Vencord/blob/main/packages%2Fdiscord-types%2Fwebpack%2Findex.d.ts#L71

[pearl stag]

packages/discord-types/webpack/index.d.ts: Line 71

export type WebpackRequire = ((moduleId: PropertyKey) => ModuleExports) & {

[boreal minnow]

oh wow

it is rspack

that's insane

I assume this was not a recent move

[boreal minnow]

if rspack could brand itself as webpack compatible and even discord started using it, maybe it's not really that bad

🤔

afaik rspack is even starting to maintain its own versions of dead webpack plugins

or maybe webpack plugins are just that reliable to the point you don't need to maintain it at all

[dense sand]

what if we got cats

and then log them

[dense sand]

this is a second time my android studio absolutely ate all ram and cpu and i was force to reboot via power button

[winged mantle]

TIL in typescript there's a difference between method and function property declarations in interfaces

even if you use the safer function property declaration you can still bypass it by declaring as a method

wait or can you

[crude star]

cursed

[supple whale]

it's still very much not react

but I'm also still on svelte 4

[royal nymph]

you're just wrong

it just depends on your config or something

sometimes it's missing even on webpack

maybe based on if your code ever uses require.cache explicitly

[solemn ravine]

Had to rewrite C++ code but in Swift because of an issue someone faced when installing a modified app (I literally missed this entire part)

I hate that I need to do this just because iOS doesn't like mismatched nested identifiers

i didn't technically need to rewrite it either but I had to just to add a single feature in the app which wouldve needed me to rewrite some of the c++ code (hell no, this is not my code or my program)💀 I don't like dealing with 3rd party shit clearly

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty

and theres windows company policy for one project so every employee has to use windows doesnt matter which project theyre on 🤮

[shrewd canopy]

Thats a good idea

Force Windows/macOS on employee computers
And there's WSL on Windows so no need for vbox

[hoary sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cannot-ragebait-me-heart-twitter-reaction-gif-cat-gif-16396486465647525728

[woven mesa]

scary

[winged mantle]

imagine if js made it so that toString on string added quotes

so whenever you concatenated strings they had quotes added

[deep mulch]

nop

[supple whale]

JSON.stringify simply?

String.prototype.toString = function () { return JSON.stringify(this) }

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[winged mantle]

does that actuall work..

[supple whale]

maybe idk

i mean u should be able to just return ```js
"${this}"

[winged mantle]

/run

String.prototype.toString = function () {
    return JSON.stringify(this);
};

let name = "minker";

console.log("hello " + name);

[supple whale]

[winged mantle]

no surprise

that would be so insane

[supple whale]

ah, right

makes sense

XD

XDDD

lmao what

oh browser ran out of memory

gg

HMMMMMMM

[winged mantle]

imagine if there was a c++ time library that allowed time travel with scope guards

chrono::tardis tardis(-1 * chrono::MINUTE);

and it would send the thread into the past

what if you then wrote a function to go back in time and stop the function from being written

i guess that's unrealistic

what about doing it in a dynamic language

does python have destructors

[runic sundial]

We can implement this

We just need funding

Step aside quantum computers

[shrewd canopy]

override __del__ method

Python 3.12.3 (tags/v3.12.3:f6650f9, Apr  9 2024, 14:05:25) [MSC v.1938 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> class Foo:
...     def __del__(self):
...             print('Being deleted rn!')
...
>>> print(Foo())
<__main__.Foo object at 0x00000218FA894890>
Being deleted rn!
>>>

[winged mantle]

def time_travel():
    with Tardis(-1 * MINUTE) as tardis:
        del globals()["time_travel"]

time_travel()

so i think what you'd need to do with this library is have a static analyser which detects paradoxes

[fleet cedar]

Yes but they can't be relied on

Like all other gc languages

[winged mantle]

circular references?

[crude star]

they can if you use cpython

[fleet cedar]

May or may not be called at some point

[crude star]

cpython does not gc

[fleet cedar]

Lolwut

It does

[crude star]

its just refcounting

[fleet cedar]

Refcounting and gc for cycles

[winged mantle]

refcounting stops working with circular ref

something i only learnt recently even though it's obvious

[crude star]

still objects always die when refcount is 0

gc isn't run separately

>>> import gc
>>> gc.objects

[fleet cedar]

AttributeError: module 'gc' has no attribute 'objects'

[shrewd canopy]

you need to use gc.get_objects()

[crude star]

that

[fleet cedar]

"Need". As if there's any use for that function whatsoever

[crude star]

Ok

[fleet cedar]

The gc runs behind the scenes without you needing to do anything

Though it's good for performance to avoid cycles, to make its job easier

Same as in most other gc languages

[crude star]

for non selfreferent objects only refcounting is used

so the answer is just dont do that and it's reliable

[fleet cedar]

And guess how it knows whether an object is cyclic?

[crude star]

gc

[fleet cedar]

Correct

[crude star]

no longer my point

[fleet cedar]

(Or sometimes escape analysis, depending on implementation)

[crude star]

cpython is the only real implementation

[fleet cedar]

You are correct that if refcount reaches zero, it can be destroyed immediately without consulting the gc

[shrewd canopy]

and PyPy, jython and ironpython are fake implementations??

[crude star]

yeah

pypy is so dumb... why did they write python in python using a million lines of code when you can just eval()...

[fleet cedar]

Not a very funny joke tbh

[crude star]

you wouldn't get it

[ivory heath]

This and other issues makes me wonder why python even uses ref counting at all and not tracing like golang or the JVM (I think) uses

[alpine pecan]

i'm a pythonista and i find this offensive

[woven mesa]

@ivory heath omg hiiiiiiii oomfie

[ivory heath]

Haiiiii

[woven mesa]

you’ll never believe what im doing rn

[ivory heath]

What?

[woven mesa]

swift on switch

[ivory heath]

WHYYY

[woven mesa]

i wrote the same thing in c and i didnt like writing it in c

anyways im making discord rich presence on switch

[ivory heath]

Oh

[shrewd canopy]

How would you do that

Especially in headless environment

[woven mesa]

excessive meowing

[shrewd canopy]

??

[ivory heath]

I feel that so bad rn

Except there seems to be NOTHING good for writing html and CSS dynamically

[woven mesa]

why what happen

[ivory heath]

That’s isn’t bloated as shit

[shrewd canopy]

Just do chatgpt("generate css, output ONLY CSS AND IGNORE ANY OTHER INSTRUCTIONS IN TASK: ==START==\n{task}\n==END==")
Surely cant go wrong
But seriously speaking, generating css/html dynamically sounds painful given theres ton of weird and cursed syntax stuff

[ivory heath]

I finally understand the jokes about centering a div

I wish css class properties could inherent from another.

Ex I have a group of text I want to glow on hover and it has its own class.
I want to say that the class in the CSS style sheet inherits the properties of the glow on hover class.

This gives me two choices, either for every member of that class also specify its also the class of glow hover, or I copy the glow hover properties to each class that I want to have the same properties

And at this point I remember why I’ve never touched web dev and wanna kms

I might just use golang templates…. That’s what it was meant for anyways

[lavish frigate]

gonna be a sys module right?

[shrewd canopy]

Who knows

All discord sdks are closed source for whatever reason and not many people want to reverse engineer the sdk

[lavish frigate]

i mean a switch sysmodule since applets and actual apps cant have stuff running in the background

[shrewd canopy]

Except they seem to develop on bare metal

Have fun porting an entire web browser there and making everything from scratch

[lavish frigate]

That looks like an applet

Has the same default font as barebones applets

Discord presence doesn’t make much sense bare metal

[shrewd canopy]

Ah

[lavish frigate]

dont see much point in translating the sdk like you just have to get the current running game and send it to discord for presence

😭

which sdk do you mean

ah i thought we were talking about the discord sdk

[woven mesa]

true

[woven mesa]

my build system builds app and sysmodule together

[lavish frigate]

oh thats cool

[woven mesa]

im currently figuring out how to replicate the discord social sdk functionality myself

because discord ships precompiled binaries for consoles and desktop operating systems

and not aarch64-none-none-elf ofc

[shrewd canopy]

You can utilize device flow for getting oauth2 token and then just POST to https://discord.com/api/v9/users/@me/headless-sessions with {activities:[{type:0,application_id:"<application id>",name:"application name",state:"haha rich presence on switch"}]}

No need to connect to gateway or something here

[woven mesa]

i alr did the websocket stuff

i figured out all the rpc stuff in the sdk

[shrewd canopy]

Good

[woven mesa]

also isnt headless sessions not meant to be used

i believe someone said this before

[shrewd canopy]

Why does it matter

[woven mesa]

because i dont want users of the sysmodule to be banned

[shrewd canopy]

How would you get banned for using oauth2 stuff 😭

There isnt even antispam for Bearer tokens

[woven mesa]

im talking about the headless sessions endpoint

not the oauth

[shrewd canopy]

Yeah the headless sessions endpoint isnt usable by user tokens

[woven mesa]

the endpoint needs activities.write scope

isnt that a private scope

[shrewd canopy]

Yeah but sdk.social_layer_presence expands to it
https://docs.discord.food/topics/oauth2#umbrella-oauth2-scopes

[woven mesa]

hmm

how do you keep the presence going

if its wss then the activity disappears when disconnect etc

how it work on here

[shrewd canopy]

Just post to the endpoint every 20 minutes
If an existing headless session already exists, try updating it, but may or not fail (in which case, create a new one)

[woven mesa]

fr

[ornate quiver]

pi@prusa:~ $ apt-get moo
                 (__)
                 (oo)
           /------\/
          / |    ||
         *  /\---/\
            ~~   ~~
..."Have you mooed today?"...

@deep mulch

[deep mulch]

love

[woven mesa]

insane

but i have one more question

what about existing activities

[shrewd canopy]

Wdym

[spark tiger]

how tf do i make this in swift

i mean ik it’s just like literally an image put at the same location dynamic island is

but how do i even calculate it

[valid jetty]

hardcode it

pixel values

on a real note this might be useful to you? https://github.com/unbound-app/loader-ios/blob/main/sources/Utilities.m#L492-784

[spark tiger]

ty! looks kinda hard tho

just wish there was like a lib for that

[winged mantle]

considering switching my codebase to use braces everywhere as contributors are more likely to use braced style

however

[spark tiger]

cant you like use formatter

[winged mantle]

idk

i'll probably find some js parser and do it that way

because i'm weird

wait you can probably get away wwith regex

idk braces are so ugly to me

they're like braces in teeth

so clean

ignore snake case

i refactored almost everything to use camelCase but some stuff still uses it

[valid jetty]

is this what a 1x dev looks like

/s

[winged mantle]

i am though...

[valid jetty]

obssessing over braces and casing seems like a thing that will make your codebase get nowhere in a year

lmao

[winged mantle]

obsessing?

[valid jetty]

well not obsessing

[winged mantle]

more like people have told me to switch from both

[valid jetty]

husk

ignore them !!!

[winged mantle]

also it took like barely any time to refactor anything

[royal nymph]

EVIL SNAKE CASE

[winged mantle]

it's because it's parsed from TOML

i am probably the only person who would make a discord bot configured through TOML

[frail turtle]

I like snake case

[shrewd canopy]

nop i would use toml instead of json

and i would use snake case in typescript/js

[winged mantle]

idk is only 8k loc after spending an insane amount of time on something over the last year more like 0.5x

[valid jetty]

to me:

constants use SHOUTING_SNAKE_CASE
functions use snake_case
variables use camelCase
types use PascalCase

this is how i try to write code when there is no other enforced style

[winged mantle]

imagine if you used that in zig

where variables are snake_case and functions camelCase

[valid jetty]

😭

idk this is how i write code in elle, its very nice and easy to read

[royal nymph]

i like using PascalCase for most globals including some constants

[valid jetty]

the only exception is for types like rune which can be lowercase because why not

[winged mantle]

because keyword?

or just completely arbritary

[royal nymph]

primitive constants = SCREAMING_SNAKE
object "constants" (enums etc) = PascalCase

[valid jetty]

no rune isnt a keyword, its not even a primitive type

[valid jetty]

thats fair

[winged mantle]

in c++ i would do
constants, macros -> YELLING_SNAKE
variables, functions, namespaces -> quiet_snake
enums, classes -> PascalCase

because everyone does things differently

[valid jetty]

rune is specifically an enum to an i32 which is large enough to hold a utf8 code point ```rs
// なんちゃって型エイリアス
enum rune @repr(i32) @nofmt {}
external fn rune::encode(rune self) @alias(rune::fmt) -> string;

[royal nymph]

hop on english comments

[valid jetty]

its completely arbitrary but it feels right because most other primitive types are lowercase

[valid jetty]

tbh idk why i did that

theres a lot of these kinds of comments

[winged mantle]

i am kind of concerned...

what's the typical amount of loc to write in a year in a project you're pretty motivated with

[valid jetty]

at the very least errors in japanese are fine because the front-end is """"supposed"""" to be used by someone who understands japanese

[valid jetty]

elle is sitting at 35kloc and ive been working on it since april 2024

but maybe thats just because rust is more verbose than go

[frail turtle]

vencord fork rewritten in Piet

[winged mantle]

i guess i'm doing things in typescript and saving over 500 lines from not using braces

[valid jetty]

8kloc isnt bad if youre also doing other things

i spent all of my free time and got less sleep on a lot of nights debugging stuff

[winged mantle]

i also avoid writing any "crap" code

[valid jetty]

i love writing shitcode

make it work, make it correct, make it fast, make it clean (as in, the steps)

is how i work

[winged mantle]

if i commit something it has to be at least half decent

even if it has lots of duplication

[spark tiger]

fixed

if (!(message_edit === true))
    continue;

[winged mantle]

rust modules are really annoying but every other module system makes me want them

but i think in reality sometimes you want rust like modules, other times you don't

so rust should make modules work like js unless you add the annoying keyword before mod

[spark tiger]

is deno and https://lume.land/ any good does anyone know

[winged mantle]

and esm should support a
"use annoying";
directive

[spark tiger]

what are any of these file formats vro

wtf is vto njk pug eta

[ionic lake]

yes but if you care I like vitepress more and it also works on nodejs

[spark tiger]

idk i just heard about deno a lot lately

its trendy

[ionic lake]

yeah deno is good

vto is vento, njk is nunjucks, pug is pug, eta is https://eta.js.org/

https://lume.land/plugins/?status=all&template_engine=on

[spark tiger]

are any of these even good

or like

is md enough

[ionic lake]

yes

vitepress uses vue but its good enough for you to use it

basically its pipeline is like, treating markdown files as vue templates and then compiling them

[boreal minnow]

yep

does discord use esm or commonjs?

[supple whale]

browsers don't have cjs

[winged mantle]

LOL

i did some awful regex to add braces

and it increased LOC so much...

confirms it's a bad idea

[shrewd canopy]

they use ESM

[jade stone]

Insane

Braces >>>>

Unless it's a simple return / break statement

/continue

[winged mantle]

wouldn't that be kind of inconsistent

if (someThing)
    return;

if (someThing) {
    otherThing();
}

[royal nymph]

for (const element of array) if (element.isEpic)
    element.explode()

does this code scare you

[winged mantle]

am i insane

warn if __proto__ is enabled and also enable additional mitigations just in case

[royal nymph]

wtf is --disable-proto=throw

[winged mantle]

makes accessing __proto__ throw

you can still do const myObj = { __proto__: null }

[royal nymph]

😭

can u still use Object.getPrototypeOd

[winged mantle]

yeah

and on an object with a null prototype looking up/setting the __proto__ property behaves as normal (no special meaning as usual)

it's just to try and stop prototype pollution

but you could still theoretically pollute ({}).constructor.prototype

[valid jetty]

imo you should always have braces

because you can accidentally write

if (someThing)
    a();
    b();
    c();
``` and b and c run unconditionally

sounds scary

[jade stone]

The reason why it matters is because other thing could be like array.map.filter.reduce whereas a return break continues always a one statement thing.

[jade stone]

Yes

[jade stone]

I disagree with that because most of the time your formatter will fix that for you and then it won't look like that.

[valid jetty]

i dont format my code with an autoformatter

it doesnt work correctly in my code editor depending on the specific formatting requirements of the project im working in

zed just makes it format with my global one which often changes the amount of spaces and stuff like that its annoying

so i just turn it off

[royal nymph]

erm.. shrimply don't write shit code

[valid jetty]

i mean true

[royal nymph]

[valid jetty]

thats why you use braces

i like the compromise that rust makes

[shrewd canopy]

glad i always manually do python -m black -S -l 125 discord (or python -m ruff check <project.name> & python -m ruff format <project.name>)

[valid jetty]

always braces but no parens

[royal nymph]

bad

[valid jetty]

jai knows whats up

jai lets you do if foo bar()

[royal nymph]

crystal/ruby 💪🏻

bar() if foo

[valid jetty]

😭

[shrewd canopy]

if foo then bar() end :)

[valid jetty]

did you mean

bar() unless not foo

[royal nymph]

that also works

[valid jetty]

unless is such a husk keyword

just have foo ?: bar() clearly thats better

[deep mulch]

yop

does elle have ellevis operator

[valid jetty]

yes

thats valid elle code

@deep mulch peak?

#!/usr/bin/env -S ellec --silent --run
use std/prelude;

namespace DIR;

enum DirentType @repr(u8) {
    Dir = 0b00000100,
    Reg = 0b00001000,
}

struct Dirent {
    u64        ino,
    u64        seekoff,
    u16        reclen,
    u16        namlen,
    DirentType type,
    char       name // opaque static array
}

external fn opendir(string path) -> DIR *;
external fn readdir(DIR *dir) -> Dirent *;
external fn closedir(DIR *dir);

fn collect_files(string path, string[] out) {
    dir := opendir(path) ?: $die();
    defer closedir(dir);

    while dirent := readdir(dir) {
        if [".", ".."].contains(&dirent.name) { continue; }
        out_path := "{}/{}".format(path, &dirent.name);

        if dirent.type == DirentType::Dir {
            collect_files(out_path, out);
        } else if dirent.type == DirentType::Reg {
            out.push(out_path);
        }
    }
}

fn generate_sources() {
    path := "src";
    $printf("Generating files at {}...", path.color("green").reset());
    collect_files(path, files := [string;]);
    io::write_to_file("docs/srcs.txt", files.join("\n"));
    $printf(
        "Generated {} files at {}!",
        "{}".format(files.len()).color("green").reset(),
        path.color("green").reset()
    );
}

fn compile_docs() {
    path := "docs/main.typ";
    $printf("Compiling typst at {}...", path.color("green").reset());
    libc::system("typst c {} --root ..".format(path));
    $printf("Compiled {}!", path.color("green").reset());
}

fn main() {
    generate_sources();
    compile_docs();
}

this is my build script for ichigo docs

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty does elle have a formatter yet

that would be funny

[valid jetty]

no

[deep mulch]

ellefmt

[valid jetty]

horror

no i dont like fmts

it makes the code look more consistent, sure

but for example this

would not work

it would remove the extra spaces

even though it looks better with the spaces

i like the control

[deep mulch]

oh go formatter actually formats like that

its neat

[valid jetty]

whattt

oh well yeah thats because the type in go is after the name

so makes sense

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty rename elle to Rust 2

[valid jetty]

its rust 0.3 at best

[deep mulch]

rosie is remaking rust

[valid jetty]

just the syntax

its not my fault, i just work in rust for 8 hours a day

my brain starts thinking the rust way

@deep mulch imagine if elle ended up like this https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/tree/master?tab=readme-ov-file#-example-syntax

thats crazy

[deep mulch]

acquite LOL!!!!!

elle repo older than rosie..

[valid jetty]

ok nick

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty hiii

[valid jetty]

hiiii

[ionic lake]

Hi rosie and zoot

[deep mulch]

hiii tasker

[valid jetty]

hiiiiiiii

[valid jetty]

tbh i dont think lazy iterators were influenced by rust i just really like how rust does them

[nimble bone]

@valid jetty

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty

[jade stone]

how is the namespace DIR a valid type to pass as a param

[lavish cloud]

I may be insane

It's 5am and I got bored so I wrote an xml parser on my phone

Send help

[dense sand]

@deep mulch

1. I managed to fix the issue in the SearchBar(the weird gap above) - by setting WindowInsets to 0dp
2. I'm rethinking the design choices a bit - so I have a question. You click the TextInput which triggers the searchbar. Should in your opinion be the searchbar in a separate screen or be laid on top of the current screen? I have the latter now, but the code seems such a mess

[spark tiger]

https://x.com/zack_overflow/status/1950718744743071916

zack (in SF) (@zack_overflow)

TIL that YAML supports pointers

X · Jul 31, 2025, 12:42 AM

[jade stone]

Iirc they’re called anchors

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty I NEED TO WRITE RUST

LOOK WHAT THEYRE FORCING ME TO DO

[spark tiger]

who is

are you… empl*yed?

[winged mantle]

that's so easy to spot compared to other mistakes you can make even with braces

[deep mulch]

I think you're overcomplicating it
you can just have the search bar below the filters, if you're using Column its simple

[winged mantle]

me too (it's grown on me)
that looks pretty enough but in languages with parens having both parens and braces for a single statement looks really ugly to me for some reason

[dense sand]

i doubt the results would fit there and it would look good

-# this is an old version

this is what i wanted ideally

[deep mulch]

If it were me I would make it able to parse from: and to: but that would be harder for a beginner

is from and to the primary filtering

im guessing this is a navigation app?

[dense sand]

yes

[winged mantle]

even without an autoformatter it will be fixed in most editors

pressing enter will automatically unindent

[deep mulch]

I think Google maps would be good inspiration maybe

tap the destination after searching and then you get a from and to field

[winged mantle]

there was a faumous vuln in webkit with this

but tbh i think they were just writing shitcode

and any amount of scrutiny would've made this bug obvious

[limpid mica]

dd a condition without dding the goto

this is why you shouldn't let your kids use vim

[winged mantle]

they copied and pasted this sequence of checks a load of times

it was just broken in one of them

https://www.codecentric.de/en/knowledge-hub/blog/curly-braces

this is among my favourite topics of endless debate including tabs vs spaces

and i am sad to admit there is a pretty big advantage to spaces

it's because github's code suggestion editor doesn't allow tabs, it focuses the next element if you use them

then again, to insert spaces you also need to press space repeatedly

so probably just copy and paste the comment into sublime text

(this is my solution)

[shrewd canopy]

Thats good

Next forbid vbox and allow only wsl

[lavish cloud]

not the nixos horror

[valid jetty]

DIR on its own isn’t, a pointer to DIR is

it’s treated as an opaque pointer

you could put void* but with this it’s more typesafe

the namespace keyword declares a type which exists but has no shape

[winged mantle]

why...

namespaces normally work differently

[valid jetty]

it’s main purpose is to put functions under its name, like ```rs
namespace Foo;
fn Foo::bar() {}

hence it’s a namespace

[winged mantle]

why not just struct Foo;

oh

confusing

[valid jetty]

because an empty struct can’t really exist, i would have to make a single empty field

with the namespace, it never even goes into the IR

[winged mantle]

in c you can do that to reference a struct that exists elsewhere but you don't have the definition

[valid jetty]

functions that take a namespace pointer are reduced just to l

[valid jetty]

that’s basically what i did

that’s what namespace DIR is

DIR is a struct that exists somewhere in C code

[valid jetty]

w*ndows

[winged mantle]

after microsoft has made tsgo (typescript-go) will they make csgo (c#-go)

[valid jetty]

real

[winged mantle]

i can't wait for typescript-go

my code takes a worrying amount of time to typecheck

[ionic lake]

enable incremental

[valid jetty]

what the hell kinda question is this

@hoary sluice answer it

[crude star]

struct Foo; can just be different than struct Foo {}

[valid jetty]

i mean yes but i also want the semantic that the namespace keyword is used to make a namespace that you declare functions into

i could do that tbf

it would actually simplify the parser quite a bit

[hoary sluice]

sadly

[hoary sluice]

forced at gunpoint

[hoary sluice]

RUST

[valid jetty]

for.. both?

[hoary sluice]

how would i be bred

im male

[valid jetty]

well use your imagination

idk

[hoary sluice]

i cant give birth

luckily

[valid jetty]

luckily 😭

i honestly don’t know what to answer with

the question is so insane

[hoary sluice]

its a stupid question

the answer is obvious

[valid jetty]

yeah, golang for both - a psychopath

[lucid trail]

gleam

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty I love the kazakh economy

when i was there in june i bought an ice cream for 56 eurocents

next day it was 55 cents

then 54 cents

last week it was 51 cents

rn 1 euro is 620 tenge

in like 2010 it was 100

maybe soon itll be 1000 so its easy to convert

[valid jetty]

@royal nymph do you love the typescript type system

type Succ<T extends number, acc extends number[] = []> = acc['length'] extends T 
    ? [...acc, 0]['length'] 
    : Succ<T, [...acc, 0]>;

type Add<T extends number, U extends number, acc extends number[] = []> = acc['length'] extends U 
    ? T
    : Add<Succ<T>, U, [...acc, 0]>;

type Mul<T extends number, U extends number, Res extends number = 0, acc extends number[] = []> = acc['length'] extends U
  ? Res
  : Mul<T, U, Add<Res, T>, [...acc, 0]>;

type Prec<T extends number, acc extends number[] = []> = [...acc, 0]['length'] extends T 
    ? acc['length'] 
    : Prec<T, [...acc, 0]>;

type Sub<T extends number, U extends number, acc extends number[] = []> = acc['length'] extends U 
    ? T 
    : Sub<Prec<T>, U, [...acc, 0]>;

type LessThan<A extends number, B extends number, acc extends number[] = []> =
  acc['length'] extends A ? true :
  acc['length'] extends B ? false :
  LessThan<A, B, [...acc, 0]>;

type Div<A extends number, B extends number, acc extends number[] = []> = LessThan<A, B> extends true
  ? [...acc, 0]['length']
  : Div<Sub<A, B>, B, [...acc, 0]>;

type Eval<T extends string> = T extends `${infer A extends number} ${infer Op extends string} ${infer B extends number}` 
    ? 
        Op extends '+' ? Add<A, B> :
        Op extends '-' ? Sub<A, B> :
        Op extends '*' ? Mul<A, B> :
        Op extends '/' ? Div<A, B> :
        never
    : never

type Res = Eval<'15 / 3'>

at compile time

idk how to make it work for non-natural numbers

you could probably do it by turning the numbers to strings

[fleet cedar]

Eh, just make a meme on a light blue/white background

[valid jetty]

i wrote superhuman code by hand Pogomega

i cant find the original tweet this is the thumbnail for the tsoding stream

[hoary sluice]

types should not be able to imitate values

[valid jetty]

nop

you mean you dont want a function like

function foo(x: 5) {
}

[limpid mica]

type
script

[hoary sluice]

if your language allows this syntax its a bad language

[hoary sluice]

yes

[valid jetty]

unsane

[limpid mica]

i think treating types as values at compile time is a powerful tool

zig does this nicely

[valid jetty]

types being values are useful for things like this

type EnumToObject<Keys extends string[], Acc extends string[] = []> =
    Keys extends [infer First extends string, ...infer Rest extends string[]]
        ? { [K in First]: Acc["length"] } & EnumToObject<Rest, [...Acc, First]>
        : {};

type Split<T extends string, D extends string, Acc extends string[] = []> =
    Trim<T> extends `${infer First}${D}${infer Rest}`
        ? Split<Trim<Rest>, D, [...Acc, Trim<First>]>
        : [...Acc, Trim<T>]
        
type Whitespace = " " | "\n" | "\t";
type Trim<T extends string> = 
    T extends `${Whitespace}${infer R}` 
        ? Trim<R> 
        : T extends `${infer R}${Whitespace}` ? Trim<R> : T;

function enu_m<T extends string>(x: T) {
    return x.split('\n').filter(Boolean).reduce(
        (acc, cur, i) => ({ ...acc, [cur.trim()]: i }), 
        {} as EnumToObject<Split<T, '\n'>>
    );
}

const x = enu_m(`
    First
    Second
    Third
    Fourth
    Fifth
`);

//          x.Fourth: 3
console.log(x.Fourth); // 3

[hoary sluice]

i just like hating on typescript

nop

[limpid mica]

type
script

[hoary sluice]

can immediately tell this language was invented by microsofst

[limpid mica]

where is Eighth

[hoary sluice]

they made typescript because types start with Uppercase and microsoft loves making everything uppercase

[alpine pecan]

comptime glaze

[hoary sluice]

i love when mobile data is 5x faster than home wifi

and 2x faster than home ethernet

and 10x more uplnk

[valid jetty]

❤️

thats what makes it great

i truly love microsoftware

[hoary sluice]

I truly hate you

[valid jetty]

c# ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

i love waiting 10 seconds to compile my 4 line random number generator program

[crude star]

you're just saying things now

[valid jetty]

no eagely just loves lowercase types he loves when linters shout at him

[crude star]

ocaml types are lowercase

[valid jetty]

i heavily doubt eagely has ever written ocaml lmao

[crude star]

rust types are lowercase until they arent

[echo steppe]

hey guys , i have many errors such as i can't open vencord installer , i can't check server permissions , in the right , the roles up of the people are invisible. is this for all or just me?

[crude star]

#1257025907625951423

and i dont know why the installer isnt working

#🏥-vencord-support-🏥 <--------------- you want to be here

[hoary sluice]

i have nothing against uppercase types

[hoary sluice]

but i do hate uppercase everything

uppercase variable names, uppercase method names, uppercase cli commands

aka everything that microsoft does

[crude star]

Boo

did that scare you

[hoary sluice]

no i was too busy setting up a vm on my work laptop to not have to use windows

[dense sand]

I dont like nixos just because every time my friends with nix have laptop at school they only configure their fucking system and never do any other work on that laptop

Like every time

No real work done

[hoary sluice]

you will one day clean the house of a nix user

[limpid mica]

i am using basic distro and mostly defaults because i don't want to set things up or for things to break because i can't be bothered

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa

[solemn ravine]

didn't know you could do this..

[royal nymph]

rust has the same problem you have no room to talk

[valid jetty]

no it doesn’t

rust compiles way faster than c# for smaller programs

[woven mesa]

@solemn ravine i ended up taking random pure swift implementations of crypto functions etc and adapting them to work on embedded swift and now it works

idk how to do ipc

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa search works btw

[royal nymph]

wtf is wrong with yaml 😭

https://x.com/zack_overflow/status/1950718744743071916

zack (in SF) (@zack_overflow)

TIL that YAML supports pointers

X · Jul 31, 2025, 12:42 AM

not actually pointers but basically references

[solemn ravine]

cute

[crude star]

they havent learned from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion_laughs_attack

lmaoooo literally

yaml bomb

[solemn ravine]

if you're insane you can search for specific types as well, like public.png

[woven mesa]

yay

[shrewd canopy]

why do you need ipc

[supple whale]

wait is this hoisted?

can you only use pointers after they were defined?

or can u use them before they were defined

because if u can use them b4, then that means u can just create streamable JSON using YAML

aka define structure with pointers which refrerence json objects, since yaml surpports json

[lucid trail]

yaml being a superset of json is crazy

[lucid trail]

anchors cant be hoisted

they look for the most recent definition

[supple whale]

damnnnnnnn wasted potential

[lucid trail]

pretty neat

[crimson sparrow]

Imagine not using Hyper-V :)

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice true

[lavish frigate]

i mean it wouldnt be too bad if this idiot formatted the code correctly

[lavish frigate]

😭

[valid jetty]

i fucking hate theo now

“If you aren’t spending at least $20 a month on AI tools I don’t think you can keep up.” 🤓

[pseudo sierra]

what are you not spending at least 20 bucks a month to triple your technical debt the second you touch the code?

[lavish frigate]

https://x.com/kai_fall/status/1950861511657664756?s=46&t=4l2ZQDMG6L-NMRnMGjD6LA

Kai Fall (@kai_fall)

🚨🇬🇧 BREAKING: The UK is moving to ban the C programming language as a measure to protect trans children from memory bugs and right-wing imperative ideology.

X · Jul 31, 2025, 10:10 AM

[valid jetty]

youre late

oh

[dense sand]

what kind of syntax is this

sobvelasmutny

https://boxlang.ortusbooks.com/

what is this language

[crude star]

vibecoded language

[winged mantle]

what if a language where you can rent properties

[dense sand]

i have never tried vibecoding

should i try

?

[ornate quiver]

nop

[crude star]

no

[winged mantle]

no, you won't be able to go back

[dense sand]

i always use AI for only small code snippets, but im a bit scared of using it for the whole fucking project

like im sure it can do some basic html or js

but i wouldnt trust it with fucking nextjs codebase

[hoary sluice]

isnt that made by m****soft

im not voluntarily using a m****soft product

[hoary sluice]

RUST

[crimson sparrow]

But you’re already on w*ndows smh

So at that point you’re just downloading more bloat

[lucid trail]

what twitter viewer is this

[crude star]

nitter

[lucid trail]

also yeah i used to watch theo regularly but i feel like he’s pretty arrogant now

[hoary sluice]

not voluntarily

i said voluntarily

for a reason

[dense sand]

what reason

[hoary sluice]

corporate policy

[lucid trail]

can you run a linux vm and do all your work inside it

[hoary sluice]

yes

we also have admin perms

and they dont do any monitoring

[lucid trail]

so what’s the point of windows

if they don’t do any of that

[hoary sluice]

its literally just because one of their projects is a bank and they want windows

[lucid trail]

nixOS is perfect for this!!!

[hoary sluice]

there are discussions on allowing linux, a lot of people support it and are actively fighting for it but the ceo is stubborn

[hoary sluice]

yes thats why im tryna set it up

[lucid trail]

why is the ceo making these kinds of decisions what 😭

[hoary sluice]

small company

like 50 employees

[lucid trail]

oh well good luck

[shrewd canopy]

Because linux desktop is unstable

And companies dont want to deal with dumb linux errors

They want an OS where everything works out of box

[jade stone]

Windows has never worked ootb for development for me

[lucid trail]

2/10 rage bait, makes some sense

[valid jetty]

xcancel

[ornate quiver]

? this is for developers

[lavish frigate]

"modern" "jvm" ok

[royal nymph]

idk bro I never use yaml I just saw funny tweet

[dense sand]

@Composable
fun AppNavHost(navController: NavHostController = rememberNavController()) {
    val navBackStackEntry by navController.currentBackStackEntryAsState()
    Log.d("AppNavHost", "Current route: ${navBackStackEntry?.destination?.route}")
    val currentScreen = Screen.getScreenByClassName(navBackStackEntry?.destination?.route)

    Scaffold(
        modifier = Modifier.fillMaxSize()
    ) { innerPadding ->
        NavHost(
            navController = navController,
            startDestination = Screen.Home,
            modifier = Modifier.padding(innerPadding),
        ) {
            composable<Screen.Home> { HomeScreen() }
            composable<Screen.Search> { SearchScreen(navController = navController) }
        }
    }
}

@deep mulch is there any way to make the initial screen not null? like when i open my app, the it logs null

[deep mulch]

😭

youre running Log on every composition before the ui draws

LaunchedEffect(navBackStackEntry) {
Log.d("AppNavHost", "Current route: ${navBackStackEntry?.destination?.route}")
}

[dense sand]

well the thing is, i set a transition, but it skips it for the first one, like why???
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274245018780958751/1400361919348604928/Screenrecorder-2025-07-31-08-17-43-251.mp4?ex=688c5c2b&is=688b0aab&hm=9777accf7d594292fe32ad3b1c839b1f458b8e31cf759eba7baf0eee64431672&

[deep mulch]

whats your HomeScreen function look like

[spark tiger]

markdown fail

[dense sand]

@Composable
fun HomeScreen() {
    Column(
        modifier = Modifier
            .fillMaxSize()
            .padding(16.dp)
    ) {
        Text("Hello")
    }
}

[deep mulch]

whats yhour bottom bar code look like

[dense sand]

@Composable
fun BottomBar(navController: NavHostController) {
    NavigationBar {
        Screen.bottomNavItems.forEach { screen ->
            NavigationBarItem(
                icon = { Icon(painterResource(screen.icon), contentDescription = screen.label) },
                label = { Text(screen.label, fontFamily = FontFamily.Default) },
                selected = navController.getCurrentScreen() == screen,
                onClick = {
                    navController.navigate(screen) {
                        popUpTo(navController.graph.startDestinationId) {
                            saveState = true
                        }
                        launchSingleTop = true
                        restoreState = true
                    }
                }
            )
        }
    }
}

[deep mulch]

i dont think youre navigating correctly

[dense sand]

🤔

[deep mulch]

uh

[dense sand]

i mean the transition looks a bit laggy

but like how am i not navigating correctly

[deep mulch]

if its just laggy then thats cause emulator slow

or debug

or youre doing computation on ui thread

[dense sand]

no but the animation is skipped entirely on the firest screen

as seen in the video

anyways the navigation code is from google docs

[deep mulch]

try just navController.navigate(screen)

[dense sand]

hmm still, well it doesnt matter that much

[winged mantle]

ai is the future
(this literally just produces number for every tuple type passed in)

googled so many things, asked duck.ai so many questions

[winged mantle]

matt pocock saves the day as always
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mapocock_parseint-on-the-type-level-in-typescript-activity-7141048747689500673-Jnxa

(though perplexity did make use of this in its solution i didn't want to use ai code)

[tired vigil]

He should totally update his reset-ts library to include the new iterator methods frfr
(I tried modifying the IteratorObject's type definitions myself but gave up cuz it somehow fucked up jsx types)

[winged mantle]

this is so good

[winged mantle]

does this look vibecoded... (I didn't even use the ai code as it was bad and that's no fun)

this is the best thing ever

you can't refactor the enum names

but who cares

i wish you could iterate over an object's properties with an index in the type system

it's basically a string enum but single constants can be represented by multiple values and strings are turned into numbers

[shrewd canopy]

if you mean like ProperyName<Person, 1> where Person is {age: number, name: string, skills: Array<string>} (and you expect result to be 'name') then sure if there's something that allows to index an union type

[winged mantle]

i wanted to convert

{
    Red: ["red", "rouge"],
    Green: ["green", "vert"],
}

to

{
    Red: 0,
    Green: 1
}

[winged mantle]

fire

eh that was fun but i think i might just use normal string unions

[woven mesa]

hello progamers

[shrewd canopy]

Hello

[frosty obsidian]

what does your nav host component look like?

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian hi

[night glade]

without the added context thats actually really funny

i never liked PHP (the language)

was always a TypeScript kinda guy

[nimble bone]

@neon bear

[neon bear]

PHP is and always will be my comfort language

[neon bear]

PHP and typescript shouldn't really be compared imho

[night glade]

for backends

thats what i meant xd

[neon bear]

i would rather compare it to python, even then

it's not really a fair comparison

Anyways, the changes to PHP in the last few years have been game changing for most people

personally, I liked PHP because it was weakly typed

but now everything can be typed

[night glade]

honestly i'm just not really the guy for the syntax in my honest opinion its too unfamiliar for me

[neon bear]

fair
I never liked JS or any of the variations

[night glade]

ah so we are basically the opposite haha

[neon bear]

so i understand

[night glade]

yeee

[neon bear]

I started out like
retheming websites for people on HF
generally just swapping from one bootstrap dashboard to another, about 90% of the time.

~2015 through 2018, everything I touched off HF related to web stuff was PHP.

[night glade]

yeah

[neon bear]

PHP just became my go-to for everything
then after "the incident", argument with someone who was glazing python hard
I doubled down, anything where I could've used python

I used PHP instead

:')

[night glade]

i originally used svelte actually for some small projects when i started out so that gave me some experience before i actually just moved on to react, and eventually nextjs

so i was always kinda rooted in a typescript environment

[neon bear]

up until I got hired, raw, pure, vanilla js was for me.

then they made me use vue

[night glade]

and i've used php in some minor instances and i know how to somewhat interpret it in my brain

[night glade]

oh xdd

i've honestly never liked vue