love?
#🪅-progaming
royal nymph
deep mulch
null
ornate quiver
YOP
dawn ledge
zig
spark tiger
<@581573474296791211> 😭
nah the amount of operators zig has is fucking crazy ngl
dawn ledge
hate writing grammar
spark tiger
https://x.com/secjack_/status/1912670435906580594
yes bro very beautiful
X
dawn ledge
idk quite beautiful to me
valid jetty
hate writing grammar
now it looks like zig xd
lavish frigate
idk quite beautiful to me
i agree
dawn ledge
now it looks like zig xd
i'll take it 
dawn ledge
is it fine if i deviate from ebnf a bit
fleet cedar
Nope illegal you have to stick to it 100%
dawn ledge
i dont wanna add TOKEN_whitespace everywhere so im like mentally making "if there's a comma between two rules a whitespace is allowed", cause wikipedia says , is used for concatenation
fleet cedar
Why do you have whitespace as a token
fleet cedar
Usually you filter out whitespace at the lexer
valid jetty
^^
your rules should look like
"fn" <identifier> "(" [ <argument_list> ] ")" [ <block> ]
thats what they look like
valid jetty
good
leaden crater
@valid jetty
valid jetty
hiii
valid jetty
where is daily elle yap..
leaden crater
hop on anilist
i am on mangadex
dense sand
dawn ledge
now add jit
dense sand
now add jit
im not done yet with my 205 instructions
pearl stagBOT
https://github.com/sadan4/VencordCompanion/blob/dev/src/ast/lineUtil.ts#L34-L56
lineUtil.ts: Lines 34-56
export function getNumberAndColumnFromPos(text: string, pos: number) {
const lineInfos = createLineNumberAndColumns(text);
if (pos < 0) {
return { lineNumber: 1, column: 1 };
}
const index = binarySearch(lineInfos, info => {
if (pos < info.pos) {
return -1;
}
if (pos >= info.pos && pos < info.pos + info.length + 1) { // `+ 1` is for newline char
return 0;
}
return 1;
});
const lineInfo = index >= 0 ? lineInfos[index] : lineInfos[lineInfos.length - 1];
if (lineInfo == null) {
return { lineNumber: 1, column: 1 };
}
return { lineNumber: lineInfo.number, column: Math.min(pos - lineInfo.pos + 1, lineInfo.length + 1) };
}
what tool are you using to get timings
jade stone
what tool are you using to get timings
vscode js-debug profiler
idk what it uses under the hood
dense sand
please work ahh moment
formal belfry
hopes and prayers
valid jetty
it’s the emoji for this channel
spark tiger
that's actually a crazy default emoji find
also i can't remember any other emoji that is not using english letters or numbers
can't find it because of that
winged mantle
why doesn't it ignore diacritics
full vapor
i had to inspect element it to copy it to find out what it was
dense sand
Penis operator
hoary sluice
with cancer
valid jetty
:= is the best pascal and go feature
fleet cedar
What about python
valid jetty
python stole it probably
i dont see why it even needs to exist, why couldnt they just make x = y an expression instead of making a seperate expression for assignment
it wouldnt break backwards compatibiity because before you couldnt put assignments in expressions and now you can
idk
hoary sluice
:= is the best pascal and go feature
i meant ::= in ebnf not :=
valid jetty
::= is just alien penis operator
hoary sluice
im going to call this the penis operator in the icypeas docs
royal nymph
opperator*
royal nymph
i know that guy
somehow no one found this issue before it got locked except me and sepruker
and thomas my g
royal nymph
i wasnt paying attention to the year and assumed loremly got it locked
valid jetty
yeah i think it gets locked after exactly a year of inactivity
hoary sluice
Type Inference
Explicit Type Annotations
Types can be explicitly declared using : <type> syntax:
let
x : u32 = 0
in
...
The penis operator
The compiler can automatically infer types using the penis operator :=
let
x := 0 -- Inferred as u32
in
...
Function Declaration Simplification
The penis operator allows omitting explicit function type signatures:
Original (explicit types):
x : int int
x a = a * a
With type inference:
x a := a * a -- Inferred as (int int)
im putting this in my docs
dawn ledge
im not gonna write :=
ebns is = not ::=
hoary sluice
oh thats normal bnf
close enough
youre not compiling it so you dont have to follow the syntax
strong gale
## Type Inference
### Explicit Type Annotations
Types can be explicitly decla...
Can't you just leave it without type annotation?
It uses u32 by default
strong gale
do `x = 0`?
y
hoary sluice
i could but i want to separate declaration from assignment
foo : type = value is the syntax for declaration and you can omit the type
foo = value is the syntax for assignment
foo : type = value is close enough to
foo : type type
foo = value
hoary sluice
how about i make assignment be the wumpus operator :=: instead
the penis operator actually makes sense tho
@valid jetty i got a B in math
i win
i won in file
life
i just an A on hardware development finals for a perfect gpa
hoary sluice
i love migrating the entire ui to a different language and breaking most of the program in one commit https://github.com/eagely/voice-frontend/commit/055ef97d07043e468b2234d6bcbb2268b6c2b7bd
the main stuff still works but its almost unusable in this state
valid jetty
wait i thought the voice assistant thing was done
hoary sluice
wait i thought the voice assistant thing was done
the backend was the diploma thesis which is done (its really not but nobody is actually gonna try it and notice the flaws, and from the outside it looks complete and it does work) but we have a parallel running project which we were supposed to do on wednesdays in school, but i didnt, so im doing it right before the deadline
well really this is also complete but its terrible and i dont have much else to do so id rather secure the A
valid jetty
well really this is also complete but its terrible and i dont have much else to ...
you could work on icypeas
hoary sluice
you could work on icypeas
i spent the whole year working on 1.0 grades im not gonna give up now
valid jetty
ehhh who cares about grades
im gonna fail physics and further maths and i dont really care anymore lol
lucid trail
are you in form 6
lucid trail
yes
valid jetty
ya i’m in y12
well
in uk standards at least
idk if it’s the same in other countries
lucid trail
does uk have yr 13
lucid trail
i’m gonna be in uni at 16 :3
valid jetty
i wish
i wanna get out of this stupid sixth form so i can just study textiles or computer science full time
lucid trail
reading this chat has really made me want to write a compiler over the summer
valid jetty
instead i’m stuck learning about the photoelectric effect and beta decay
valid jetty
reading this chat has really made me want to write a compiler over the summer
it’s a really good idea you should totally do it
not only is it a fun exercise but you really learn how a programming language works intuitively
i totally recommend
i compiled a list a while ago in a computerphile video of the things you learn
since then i have more to add but whatever
lucid trail
i compiled a list a while ago in a computerphile video of the things you learn
like as a prerequisite? I really struggle with videos for actual learning, reading all the way for me
valid jetty
uhhh this list
valid jetty
like as a prerequisite? I really struggle with videos for actual learning, readi...
nope, what skills you get out
of this exercise
lucid trail
i see
I’m thinking of writing something with cranelift and gpu block with part of the ast being emitted as metal
valid jetty
interesting cranelift looks like somewhere in between llvm and qbe
dawn ledge
written in rust btw :^)
cranelift is like llvm minus the bajillion host targets
and some optimizations
valid jetty
yeah lol
dawn ledge
i was looking into llvm the other day
they have an amdgpu target
no examples whatsoever on how to run it
valid jetty
i wonder if it enforces ssa form or if it just lets you write whatever and corrects it for you or not
(it = cranelift)
qbe lets you write incorrect ssa form and it just fixes it for you, llvm doesn’t do that
dawn ledge
no examples whatsoever on how to run it
some docs say you can only use amdgpu isa on linux, but llvm docs say you can run it on windows using <tool name> but <tool name> is an undocumented project by amd used for their vulkan interop
llvm like assumes the knowledge is supposed to spawn in your head
valid jetty
First and foremost, phi instructions are NOT necessary when writing a frontend to QBE. One solution to avoid having to deal with SSA form is to use stack allocated variables for all source program variables and perform assignments and lookups using Memory operations. This is what LLVM users typically do.
Another solution is to simply emit code that is not in SSA form! Contrary to LLVM, QBE is able to fixup programs not in SSA form without requiring the boilerplate of loading and storing in memory. For example, the following program will be correctly compiled by QBE.
❤️
valid jetty
llvm like assumes the knowledge is supposed to spawn in your head
lmao
dawn ledge
this is part of what i dislike in big project
contributors are sparse and only a few know the code structure/api
you either spend hours going through the code for a simple problem or you give up
docs are like non existent
lucid trail
llvm like assumes the knowledge is supposed to spawn in your head
llvm is big and a bit scary to me
valid jetty
> First and foremost, phi instructions are NOT necessary when writing a frontend...
(this is also what elle does too because for SOME reason qbe does not allow you to get the address of a temporary. so you HAVE to do the llvm thing even if you don’t really need to, if you want to be able to take the address of a stack variable)
dawn ledge
llvm is big and a bit scary to me
if you look at it as "just an assembly emitter" its actually quite simple (ofc dont actually look at the code, thats horrible)
lucid trail
yes f(ir) -> asm
dawn ledge
true
valid jetty
qbe is veeee😭ry good for beginners imo
you don’t even need to put function definitions in the ir it’ll just allow calling any function and figure it out at link time
dawn ledge
currently writing macros
dawn ledge
thats rust
dawn ledge
test code for the parser generator
valid jetty
oh are you not gonna roll up your own parser
dawn ledge
im planning like
parser def -> glalr(1) parser generator -> parse/lex tables
and the actual compiler will just embed the tables and use a generic function that reads input and lexes+parses based on the table
i would handroll something like a recursive descent parser but i've always wanted to write a glalr(1) parser generator
dawn ledge
sure
nimble bone
qbe is veeee😭ry good for beginners imo
veeee 😭
valid jetty
@hoary sluice is this a joke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebyesd3mPAA
there is no way its this easy right
why is he taking so long to answer it
|| ```py
from collections import defaultdict
from bisect import bisect_right
def solve(s, ws):
ci = defaultdict(list)
for i, c in enumerate(s):
ci[c].append(i)
def subs(w):
pi = -1
for c in w:
if c not in ci:
return False
il = ci[c]
p = bisect_right(il, pi)
if p == len(il):
return False
pi = il[p]
return True
return sum(subs(w) for w in ws)
s1 = "abcde"
ws1 = ["a", "bb", "acd", "ace"]
print(solve(s1, ws1))
s2 = "dsahjpjauf"
ws2 = ["ahjpjau", "ja", "ahbwzgqnuk", "tnmlanowax"]
print(solve(s2, ws2))
maybe i could get a job at google 🙏
me
worldly sigil
hoary sluice
i’m gonna be in uni at 16 :3
how
hoary sluice
interesting cranelift looks like somewhere in between llvm and qbe
im thinking if i should secretely compile to haskell and use their giant ecosystem as a backend
valid jetty
"secretly compile to haskell" in an OSS project is insane but you go girl
that would make icypeas a transpiler tho,,
also why are you awake at 6am..
hoary sluice
also why are you awake at 6am..
why not
valid jetty
that implies you either didnt sleep or just woke up (in which case are you EMPLOYED??????????????)
hoary sluice
i slept like 8 hours
valid jetty
oh
hoary sluice
that implies you either didnt sleep or just woke up (in which case are you EMPLO...
speaking of employment i need to make a resume todey
valid jetty
noone could ever force me to wake up at 6am if i didnt have school to go to
hoary sluice
you have no right to complain about peoples sleep schedule
valid jetty
:3
hoary sluice
you literally never sleep
hoary sluice
i have to infer it from the solution cause a cba watching the video
why are all googlers indians
valid jetty
given a string s (can be empty) an an array of words, find the number of words which are substrings of s
so for "abcde" given ["a", "bb", "acd", "ace"], there are 3
index 0, index, 2, index 3
hoary sluice
oh thats like the most popular leetcode problem
valid jetty
lmao
idk why it took this guy so long to answer
and why hes typing like excessively long variable names and making several functions
hoary sluice
array.count { it in string }
valid jetty
wtf is he WRITING
hoary sluice
if you tell me this is slow i will report you to hr for mental abuse
valid jetty
`array.count { it in string }`
no not quite
valid jetty
so for "abcde" given ["a", "bb", "acd", "ace"], there are 3
^
hoary sluice
`array.count { it in string }`
i did subsequences i think
valid jetty
yeah
it can be missing out parts
the approach to make a hashmap out of indexes is smart so what im wondering is how he figured that out but took almost the full time allocated to solve the problem
i first discovered that method of speedup entirely on my own in an entirely different environment back in march 2024 lol
specifically https://bit.ly/fastFindByProps
its probably really common tho
hoary sluice
the approach to make a hashmap out of indexes is smart so what im wondering is h...
i think ive done that in aoc before
or at least tried
valid jetty
https://github.com/unbound-app/client/blob/v2.5/src/metro/fastFindByProps.ts thi...
@hoary sluice read #80-#233 lmao
i was proud of coming up with that completely on my own
lmao
reading it again now, im pretty sure the time complexity is off but whatever
jade stone
i give up
there's some electron bug that crashes before this breakpoint can be hit
i have no fucking idea how to find the cause
hoary sluice
lmao
so instead of doing an n^2 search u do a m*n mapping where m is much smaller
did i get the time complexity right
valid jetty
its not n^2
its n*k, n is the length of the modules array of objects with keys, k is the number of keys you wanna search for in each object
hoary sluice
its not n^2
you search the list once and for ehery appearance of element 1 you search it again
valid jetty
not quite
if the list holds a bunch of objects with like various keys, and you search for keys foo and bar, you will loop through every item in the list, and then loop through every key to see if foo and bar are in the object
youre never looping through the objects twice
(or rather, loop through foo and bar to see if theyre in the object, looping through every key is a bad idea)
so like
[
{
foo: 1,
}
{
foo: 2,
bar: "x"
}
]
``` n is 2, and if were searching for just "foo" then k is 1, which means we loop through every module and then loop through every one of the keys were searching for until we find an object that has all of themif you search for "foo" and "bar" then k is 2, so you loop 2 times each item in the list * 2 times for each key were searching for in the objects
i hope that makes sense idk
hoary sluice
<@415132870252822539> read #80-#233 lmao
this is a really cool algo, i was thinking more of saving actual indices of an array in a hashmap (1:1 mapping, not keys in an object) so you could do map[value] = index and then reverse search it but this doesnt work if you add or remove items in the array and i dont think there has been an actual aoc problem where ive used this
valid jetty
this is a really cool algo, i was thinking more of saving actual indices of an a...
yeah its really cool, and it does allow for reverse searching like this
but specifically for objects it allows finding an object in O(k) time because you just find all the indices of every object and then see which ones exist in all 3 keys's sets
hoary sluice
its n*k, n is the length of the modules array of objects with keys, k is the num...
isnt that the same complexity as the hashmap
valid jetty
isnt that the same complexity as the hashmap
nope because you pay this cost every time you want to search for a module
for the hashmap you do m*n once then just O(k) every search
hoary sluice
oh you save the map?
valid jetty
yeah
hoary sluice
alr
hoary sluice
wtf is he WRITING
this looks like he was vibe coding it and tried not making it look vibe coded
valid jetty
even in jitless hermes its faster
hoary sluice
or copied the solution
valid jetty
this looks like he was vibe coding it and tried not making it look vibe coded
computeIfValide
hoary sluice
computeIfValide
so it looks legit
valid jetty
i think for how long it took him its legit yeah
if it was vibe coded hed be right on and ready to start coding it
hoary sluice
computeIfValide 🥖 🇫🇷 🥐 💣 💥
valid jetty
especially with that fuck leetcode thing
hoary sluice
i think for how long it took him its legit yeah
you can delay to make interviewer think u were thinking
valid jetty
yeah this thing https://www.interviewcoder.co
valid jetty
you can delay to make interviewer think u were thinking
true
idk im not a recruiter but he seems to be taking his sweet time to solve a 5 min problem
hoary sluice
idk im not a recruiter but he seems to be taking his sweet time to solve a 5 min...
i think hes done this problem before and is stretching it out on purpose
also how and why are you awake at 6:40 if you were also awake at 2
hoary sluice
its 5:40 for me
that doesnt make it better
valid jetty
(i have exams starting like a week into may its so over)
hoary sluice
your time is an hour ahead
no, your clock is just wrong
valid jetty
lol what
hoary sluice
its 6:49 everywhere
valid jetty
whattt
hoary sluice
yep
valid jetty
no way,,,,
hoary sluice
@deep mulch can vouch (it will be 6:49 when he sees this)
valid jetty
the new UK supreme court ruling states it is now always 6:49am forever at all times
no more fun
hoary sluice
nono the new uk supreme court ruling states there are no timezones and everyone follows whatever i say
currently we follow central european standard time
valid jetty
ah of course
hoary sluice
anyways being awake at 5:50 isnt any better
hoary sluice
ive stayed up past 4 once in my life idk how u do it
hoary sluice
when youre 20 people will give up their seat for you thinking youre elderly
will you fix your sleep when you get a job
valid jetty
i dont think thats gonna happen lol
hoary sluice
i dont think thats gonna happen lol
you turning 20 or people giving up their seat?
valid jetty
uhhhhhhh
valid jetty
will you fix your sleep when you get a job
if i go to work at arm they have a very flexible working schedule such that i can show up for work at 23:00 and leave at 7:00am
hoary sluice
working at arm sounds like either maintaining legacy asm or doing linux arm support
valid jetty
you turning 20 or people giving up their seat?
but to be honest i have no idea if ill make it to 20 lol
big number 4 years away
deep mulch
<@289556910426816513> can vouch (it will be 6:49 when he sees this)
make Rosie sleep
hoary sluice
but to be honest i have no idea if ill make it to 20 lol
i was 14 yesterday
hoary sluice
make Rosie sleep
its 2 am
deep mulch
big number 4 years away
you're still 14??
hoary sluice
i meant 6:59
hoary sluice
you're still 14??
typical american math
hoary sluice
she said 20
deep mulch
nop
hoary sluice
ok
deep mulch
I don't think Rosie will survive on 1 second of sleep
valid jetty
zoot cant count past 3
deep mulch
@valid jetty
hoary sluice
zootie whats 9+10? (hint: its not 19...)
deep mulch
Rosie is 13?
yea
deep mulch
zootie whats 9+10? (hint: its not 19...)
3
valid jetty
1, many....
@hoary sluice do you get this please tell me you get this
hoary sluice
or if zoot is a mathematical function person he cant count past 2
zoot is a dirac impulse
formal belfry
hoary sluice
<@415132870252822539> do you get this please tell me you get this
no
deep mulch
@valid jetty
valid jetty
no
have you learnt function mappings yet
like what formally defines a "function"
in maths
hoary sluice
Rosie is 13?
rosie 11 is too young for discord
valid jetty
like how f(x) = x^2 has no inverse because its a many (inputs) to one (output) because -2 and 2 both give the same output of 4
and the inverse is a one to many mapping which is not a function
that thing
deep mulch
the sands of time drag you down @rosie.pie
hoary sluice
ik what the inverse of a function is but what does that have to do with 1, many
deep mulch
Rosie (11) will go to sleep
hoary sluice
Rosie (11) will go to sleep
you have to decrement the age by at least 1 every message
deep mulch
yes
hoary sluice
oh i forgot you cant count
valid jetty
ik what the inverse of a function is but what does that have to do with 1, many
the mappings of functions are defined as "how many inputs does this output map to? one? or many?"
hoary sluice
oh
hoary sluice
it was never funny cause ur the only one who got it...
deep mulch
@valid jetty @valid jetty hiii
hoary sluice
study more math..
i know that math just not in that form
ik function mappings but not what 1, many means
(math is taught in german)
(we never actually discussed this i dont think)
valid jetty
horror
so you discussed how x^2 + y^2 = r^2 is not actually a function because if you write it in the form y =, you get a one to many function, just never used the terminology "one to many" and "many to one"?
hoary sluice
no we learned what an inverse is and why some functions dont have one (many inputs per output)
hoary sluice
so you discussed how x^2 + y^2 = r^2 is not actually a function because if you w...
yes it is because you never specified what the variables meant
formal belfry
@valid jetty
hoary sluice
rosie go to sleep
valid jetty
no we learned what an inverse is and why some functions dont have one (many inpu...
yeah ok
formal belfry
@valid jetty don’t sleep btw
frosty obsidian
go to sleep
valid jetty
<@581573474296791211> don’t sleep btw
ok
valid jetty
i have been for like ages
deep mulch
@valid jetty go to sleep
dense sand
i have been for like ages
No but like why does it suddenly appear again... I thought they wouldn't add them back
valid jetty
secret
formal belfry
It was Guinea pig appreciation day
Did you appreciate a Guinea pig or something
It was also national cherry day
deep mulch
Rosie would rather die than sleep
formal belfry
Additionally it was world snake day
What was so coveted about this day of yours @valid jetty
formal belfry
y
deep mulch
its special to me specifically
why
placid cape
so you discussed how x^2 + y^2 = r^2 is not actually a function because if you w...
It's also called injective
And function is injective when \forall x_1, x_2 \in D_f: (x_1 \neq x_2 \implies f(x_1) \neq f(x_2))
And when it's injective then it has inverse
And each strictly monotonic function is injective that means it has inverse
pulsar elk
i hate opcodes i hate opcodes i hate opcodes
ornate quiver
its special to me specifically
it will become the end of the universe before rosie reveals what it is
valid jetty
you will NEVER know unless you break into my house, kidnap me, tempt me with cats or mizuki plushies, then i might confess (100% chance)
ornate quiver
what if I am already in your walls
hazy pine
you will NEVER know unless you break into my house, kidnap me, tempt me with cat...
you are so me
ornate quiver
idk maybe
valid jetty
smh
fleet cedar
Did you know? In most jurisdictions you can't legally kidnap someone without their consent
spark tiger
Did you know? In most jurisdictions you can't legally kidnap someone without the...
@grok is it true
this can’t be
spark tiger
fortniteitemshop
formal belfry
oh i didn't knonw i had access to that lmao
hoary sluice
default bash prompt ig
yes why not change it
kinda hypocritical of me to say that because rn im using the default zsh prompt
dense sand
default bash prompt ig
yea
what should i use?
well atleast absolute paths in my prompt would be good
hoary sluice
what should i use?
make a custom one
user@hostname pwd >
with colors
or use zsh and smth like starship or powerlevel10k
spark tiger
mine
i tried to customize mine on windows but it always looked like shit 😭 how do yalls look so good
fluid temple
most debian and debian-based have quite a nice bash prompt
royal nymph
i tried to customize mine on windows but it always looked like shit 😭 how do ya...
windows 😭
fluid temple
i tried to customize mine on windows but it always looked like shit 😭 how do ya...
your 7th word gives your answer
royal nymph
i remember writing a prompt for pwsh (it sucked)
well writing it did
the prompt was alright
spark tiger
though the first one was so slow for some reason
spark tiger
ohmyposh makes pwsh even slower than it alr is
yeah
fluid temple
me when i username@hostname:pwd$
formal belfry
aids
fluid temple
me when i username@hostname:pwd$
pretty much every debian-based distro uses it for some reason
royal nymph
i remember writing a prompt for pwsh (it sucked)
function prompt {
Write-Host -ForegroundColor DarkRed -NoNewLine "["
Write-Host -ForegroundColor Yellow -NoNewLine "$env:USERNAME "
Write-Host -ForegroundColor DarkMagenta -NoNewLine "$(Get-Location)"
$branch = git branch --show-current
if ($?) {
Write-Host -ForegroundColor DarkGray -NoNewLine " $([char]0xe725) $branch"
if (git status --porcelain) {
Write-Host -ForegroundColor DarkGray -NoNewLine "*"
}
}
Write-Host -ForegroundColor DarkRed -NoNewLine "]$"
return " "
}
spark tiger
i believe it’s mostly slow because of stuff like lang version git branch and other stuff
spark tiger
```pwsh
function prompt {
Write-Host -ForegroundColor DarkRed -NoNewLine "["...
how do u have touch
is it alias
fluid temple
touch makes so much more sense when you look at what it was actually made to do
it's made to update timestamps it looks like
spark tiger
huhhh
fluid temple
so it touches the file to make it update modification dates to current without actually modifying it
fluid temple
hence touch
Usage: touch [OPTION]... FILE...
Update the access and modification times of each FILE to the current time.
my goddd initramfs builds take so long
formal belfry
average polish programmer on twitter
supple whale
average polish programmer on twitter
he's not wrong
formal belfry
supple whale
its not difficult to make a performant electron app
in the same way that its not difficult to make ur electron app inhale resources
formal belfry
☠️ 😂
supple whale
its an issue with modern web development, than electron
because browsers will simply suspend the resource inhaling tab to reclaim resources
electron cant do that
people simply use electron when its not needed
but in places where it is needed, there's little that can outperform a WELL WRITTEN electron app
even shit as straight forward as video players
not to be confused with simple ofc
dawn ledge
its so ugly
beauty is subjective
formal belfry
no colors tho
formal belfry
wheres the syntax highlighting 😔
formal belfry
electron isn't inherently bad
maybe, personally i've never used it before in programming; people just shit on it
supple whale
breuuugh
gotta love when people shit on something because "its hip to shit on something"
royal nymph
electron is made bad by the slop sites companies throw at it
shocker: the same bloated nextjs crap that runs like shit in your browser also runs like shit as an electron app
supple whale
except the browser will handle it better, because it will suspend it or dispose of it the moment u tab out
electron persists
:^)
to whoever made yml
PERISH
fluid temple
electron is okay but my poor ram
spark tiger
react native
supple whale
and storage
100MB isnt a lot, but the ram is a giga problem
supple whale
yes please i would like 15 copies of CEF on my SSD
its not even CEF
its just full chromium
fluid temple
oh right
royal nymph
tbh storage size became irrelevant
supple whale
tbh storage size became irrelevant
but the ram is a giga problem
royal nymph
everyone should have plenty of storage nowadays
supple whale
especially in windows
where windows pages the chromium assets in the background, doesnt report it, and in actuality each electron app uses an extra gig of ram which is in the mapped files
because yeah, its not the app using the ram, its windows to cache the app
spark tiger
EKHEM DISCORD EKHEM
idk i think discord being electron sounds fine 
fluid temple
everyone should have plenty of storage nowadays
and a lot of people don't
supple whale
idk i think discord being electron sounds fine <:fr:1024751426750132284>
it has 0 reason to be tho
spark tiger
it sounds really hard to maintain a non-web app like that to me
fluid temple
if not for electron discord probably wouldn't have a native linux version
and pwas are just electron with a different runtime and less native integrations
supple whale
and pwas are just electron with a different runtime and less native integrations
oh man
i've never seen someone so wrong in my life
supple whale
really really not
fluid temple
a webpage gets its own window
supple whale
yes, but you dont spawn an extra 40 processes to do that
it re-uses existing processes
fluid temple
it's chromium there's a billion processes per tab
fluid temple
plus i then have to deal with the ugly as hell titlebar chromium uses for pwas
supple whale
plus i then have to deal with the ugly as hell titlebar chromium uses for pwas
oh yeah its awful, unusable
fluid temple
that's assuming i even use chromium, which i don't, and firefox doesn't have pwas
fluid temple
oh yeah its awful, unusable
that's uglier than what i was expecting actually
royal nymph
and a lot of people don't
many non electron apps are also 100mb
it's pretty normal for apps to be around that size
fluid temple
that's true
supple whale
it's pretty normal for apps to be around that size
chromium is a lot worse for mapped file caching on windows tho
fluid temple
but some electron apps would take way less if done native and done well
supple whale
non-issue on linux doe
supple whale
but some electron apps would take way less if done native and done well
electron is native
wtf is bro chatting
royal nymph
by native they obv mean compiled app code
unkempt shuttle
electron is stupid native
formal belfry
who
unkempt shuttle
unkempt shuttle
you are clearly the joker
supple whale
you likely mean that electron runs js which is ran in a VM as its interpreted
which automagically disqualifies half of all apps ever made
fluid temple
browser engines look and run the same everywhere in a way that cannot be called native to any specific platform
supple whale
and if you're trying to run native code IN THE INSECURE UI, then you've got other issues sir
cuz electron's renderers are not even half of the framework
and you can very easily compile all the js to v8 bytecode and load the bytecode instead of the js
idk why all electron apps dont do that tbf
bytenode my beloved
fluid temple
and if you're trying to run native code IN THE INSECURE UI, then you've got othe...
"sir"?
lavish frigate
sir
supple whale
"sir"?
yes its slang, derogatory use of sir used when some1 chats shit like they know shit, but they in fact dont know shit
lavish frigate
yes its slang, derogatory use of sir used when some1 chats shit like they know s...
they pointed it out cuz look on their profile
supple whale
thank you for coming to my ted talk
royal nymph
you did not just say "sir (derogatory)" lmaooooo
lavish frigate
sir (derogatory)
royal nymph
they pointed it out cuz look on their profile
what does this even mean
lavish frigate
what does this even mean
nb
royal nymph
I meant womxn
unkempt shuttle
slir
lavish frigate
I meant womxn
xxxxx get it right
lavish frigate
THANKS YOUTUBE
they broke it completely doesnt even update when i play a song 🔥
insane
unkempt shuttle
formal belfry
why does rwrv sound like a file permission
lavish frigate
why is the script tag touching kids 💔
unkempt shuttle
because that's not what that means in that context
lavish frigate
because that's not what that means in that context
i think it does
unkempt shuttle
it's short for number once, actually
supple whale
im still waiting for some mfer to set their pronouns to null / undefined
formal belfry
i identify as /dev/null
fluid temple
does <@1098624489832587357> approve of this statement
idk
unkempt shuttle
im still waiting for some mfer to set their pronouns to null / undefined
yeah that would be extremely funny haha
unkempt shuttle
are you sure
in the given context, yos
lavish frigate
im still waiting for some mfer to set their pronouns to null / undefined
nobody likes js enough for that
royal nymph
my pronounce are dev/null
fluid temple
yes its slang, derogatory use of sir used when some1 chats shit like they know s...
i know shit but i can't explain shit properly
unkempt shuttle
my pronounce are dev/null
~/dev/null
lavish frigate
nobody likes js enough for that
personally my pronouns are Option::<&str>::None;
formal belfry
~/dev/null
big e
formal belfry
e
unkempt shuttle
personally my pronouns are `Option::<&str>::None;`
odd choice
lavish frigate
im ending it all
unkempt shuttle
forward ing
lavish frigate
forwading
unkempt shuttle
im wading im wading
lavish frigate
apparently the super mario odyssey source code has an insane number grammar errors
formal belfry
im ending it all
unkempt shuttle
apparently the super mario odyssey source code has an insane number grammar erro...
lol great
royal nymph
im ending it all
I will forwad you
lavish frigate
get forwarded idiot
im STILL trying to find out what is causing the message bar clearing ive fixed every single other bug on this stupid plugin 💔
pulsar elk
im ending it all
forwading
formal belfry
when u fix a bug a few more pop up along the journey
pulsar elk
when u fix a bug a few more pop up along the journey
thats progress
one time i fixed this one opcode in my vm, and immediately broke 12 others
fixed another that broke
and the original broken opcode broke, along with 7 others
to summarise, i gave up
unkempt shuttle
gg
lavish frigate
when u fix a bug a few more pop up along the journey
i dont do bugs so thats impossible for me
pulsar elk
OPCODE_M, i hope you suffer
formal belfry
test driven development 📈
lavish frigate
Please enter the passphrase to unlock the OpenPGP secret key: "Surge surgedevs@gmail.com" 3072-bit RSA key, ID 2377F43EEE0EC29C created 2025-03-27.
formal belfry
gmail
formal belfry
normie
pulsar elk
test driven development 📈
i should write tests soon
i wake up to 30 users shouting at me for fucking up a floar
dense sand
this benchmark does tell me a lot thanks for that
elder yarrowBOT
discord is being super buggy
(Auto-response invoked by @royal nymph)
pulsar elk
👉 <#1026515880080842772>
(Auto-response invoked by <@343383572805058560>)
not a vencord issue, im pretty sure
hm
it seems to be an issue with CopyFileContents
jade stone
@delicate sinew @green thicket finally managed to reproduce the issue https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/246902
delicate sinew
supple whale
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
maybe its too much
mfw animating background-position and transform3d at the same time uses 15% of my GPU
jesus
25%
NICE
X D
average electron app
dense sand
guys any tips on my backend stack for my final hs project? i want to use: spring, redis for sessions, pg for user data, minio for data storage. i want to build a simple selfhostable spotify clone
supple whale
jesus fucking christ thats a cursed stack
if you're going to have <10000 users just replace all that with pocketbase and you're done
dense sand
if you're going to have <10000 users just replace all that with pocketbase and y...
i wanted to make it as complex as possible to flex on my teachers
most of students pass with a simple portfolio website(in plain html)
supple whale
i flex on the teachers by completing their tasks within 100 LOC
just to show them that their methods are outdated
and everything they teach us doesnt hold up in the real world
just you know, to make them miserable
dense sand
not sure if i want ot be done in a week though >:(
well i would still have frontend to do
frontend will be usual nextjs web and flutter mobile
supple whale
how do you handle auth?
auto-generated based on the schema
how do you handle REST?
auto-generated based on the schema
how do you cache
idk cf magic
supple whale
not sure if i want ot be done in a week though >:(
ah, thats the difference
dense sand
> how do you handle auth?
auto-generated based on the schema
> how do you handle...
our teachers dont know whats caching
supple whale
i have other shit to do than shitty school projects they assign me xD
dense sand
we literally use mysql with phpmyadmin and clean php in web subject now
dense sand
i have other shit to do than shitty school projects they assign me xD
well this is my final school project i can really take care of and flex on others so it gotta be big :D
supple whale
i think we do too, but idk i dont go to classes, i just turn in all the assignments in the first week and stop coming to class for the semester
supple whale
well this is my final school project i can really take care of and flex on other...
then do supabase with all the pretty knobs
nimble bone
be me
raw html, css, javascript
expressjs backend
postgres
hate yourself and explode after 24 hours of coding
dense sand
>be me
>raw html, css, javascript
>expressjs backend
>postgres
>hate yourself a...
no nextjs and bun boo
supple whale
>be me
>raw html, css, javascript
>expressjs backend
>postgres
>hate yourself a...
been there, done that, its awful
nimble bone
tbf if i were to make an app id use sveltekit
supple whale
i remember my 2nd project ever used HTML templates and raw JS to build UI
most people dont even know what templates are XD
giga useless
nimble bone
my current big project uses raw JS client side and ejs (server side template engine)
dense sand
then do supabase with all the pretty knobs
ive worked with supabase a lot before, but tbh i wanted to make it myself a bit, i got tired by setiing up everything by clicking
i want to fuck with the auth too
supple whale
my current big project uses raw JS client side and ejs (server side template eng...
mine currently is sveltekit with an abstract RPC/ICP layer for calling native methods inline as async JS functions
and its so fast its uncanny
it just opens insta and is there
and its weird, cuz it feels like as if it was minimized
dense sand
im writing a C programs currently 
supple whale
but no, its just starts that quick XD
supple whale
im writing a C programs currently <:husk:1026532993923293184>
oh wanna help me with that?
i need to compile C with pthreads to WASM
and i've been failing for 2 months now
XD
dense sand
using emcc?
dense sand
you cant compile with -pthread with emcc?
supple whale
haha
if only it was that simple
it just shits the bed the moment it tries to create a pthread with a "thread startup error"
dense sand
libass
supple whale
works for me 😭
compiling works fine, running it doesnt
i got ffmpeg to compile and run with pthreads
but cant get this to work
idk why
and pthreads would help here so much its unfunny
if ya actually help me fix this or fix this urself i can pay ya btw
that's how down bad i am
dense sand
wow
supple whale
wow
yeah pthreading would help insanely here
currently this lib is performing 3d rendering on a single thread on the cpu in wasm
💀
to say its slow is an understatement
dense sand
is thrd from C11 supported in anyway? or does it require pthreads too
supple whale
its an order of magnitude slower than native and 2 orders of magnitude slower than gpu accelerated
supple whale
is thrd from C11 supported in anyway? or does it require pthreads too
idk its not my lib thats using pthreads
dense sand
oh
supple whale
well yeah
wasm mutexes can lock main thread
it is bad
you're expected to run wasm in workers
except then u cant run other shit in workers like WebRTC or anything DOM based like filters, color matrixes, svgs etc
hoary sluice
how so op
hoary sluice
guys any tips on my backend stack for my final hs project? i want to use: spring...
use rust, rust for sessions, rust for user data, rust for data storage
dense sand
use rust, rust for sessions, rust for user data, rust for data storage
Oxidize
hoary sluice
if you want it to look particularly good on a resume do it in kotlin spring
but if you want to have fun making it do it in rust
dense sand
I just want to have a job
hoary sluice
in that case do it in .NET
dense sand
I'm getting an electrician certification instead of uni
dawn ledge
"fun" and "do it in rust" dont go together
dense sand
in that case do it in .NET
Spring is wide spread
hoary sluice
"fun" and "do it in rust" dont go together
you literally have a rust icon on your name
dawn ledge
do i like like im enjoying life
hoary sluice
Spring is wide spread
i was at a recruiting day last wednesday and ~80% of the software companies there used exclusively .NET
naive heath
@supple whale
hoary sluice
i know spring is wide spread and ive never used .NET and i hate .NET but its more popular and safer for a backend job
im not recommending you to do it
dense sand
Aspnet feels so ancient to me for some reason
Tbh coding and getting paid for it feels like a fever dream to me
hoary sluice
same
well moreso having fun while doing it
ive only ever had legacy java or mainly frontend jobs
dawn ledge
being employed feels like a dream to me
aint no way someone pays me to write horrors i do
dense sand
Lmao same
dense sand
ive only ever had legacy java or mainly frontend jobs
Never had a job in coding, only a done a few minecraft plugins. I feel like everyone thinks that we as high schoolers are completely useless
hoary sluice
Never had a job in coding, only a done a few minecraft plugins. I feel like ever...
yea thats a big problem
dense sand
Where tf should i even try to get internship or any job opportunity
dawn ledge
i was looking for internships around my area
they all wanted senior eng
supple whale
i was sitting on my ass watching anime
some guy i was watching anime said "yo my company needs a web dev, come work for us"
anime landed me multiple jobs
;kekw
hoary sluice
ive only ever had internships that paid 9 euro an hour and a job that paid really well but had almost no work to be done (a few hours a month if i was lucky, yet i still made more from it than the original internship that started it)
dawn ledge
and with the ai slop no one will bother looking for new devs
they're rather gonna hand existing devs ai tools and make them "more productive"
dawn ledge
anime landed me multiple jobs
damn i wish i could pull that
dense sand
ive only ever had internships that paid 9 euro an hour and a job that paid reall...
Last year i did some manual labor for 2 weeks for 4.2e per hour
hoary sluice
and with the ai slop no one will bother looking for new devs
they're rather gonn...
cali internships pay like 120k for vibe coders that know nothing
but you have to live in usa
dawn ledge
i wish i could sign up for that
but i dont really like the idea of vibecoding
the entire reason i code is because i enjoy the process
if im handing that off i might as well just not do it at all
hoary sluice
i was looking for internships around my area
they all wanted senior eng
thats why im gonna do at least a masters degree
2 year bachelor 2 year masters
dense sand
But im probably going to Brno to redhat open house meeting so maybe some opportunity finally pwease 🥹
hoary sluice
and i dont see any disadvantages to doing a phd
you get to make a hobby project youd make either way, get paid for it, get a Dr. title that guarantees you at least 80k a year for the rest of your life
you have to write an extensive paper documenting it but its worth it
supple whale
cali internships pay like 120k for vibe coders that know nothing
yes, but cost of living in cali is 200k
that's the difference
supple whale
and i dont see any disadvantages to doing a phd
it requires actual effort
supple whale
phd is ass because you actually gotta do shit, for a masters you can legit come to classes, sleep all day, write 3 exams that are "whats 2+2" and write one dogshit paper at the end of it
hoary sluice
it requires actual effort
you have 4 years to make a project that helps people and write an extensive documentation on the process of making it / how it works, that sounds really fun
its not like im gonna slave away for a random big tech company doing only stuff for them thats not fun
supple whale
no, you have to document research, a proejct can be part of it, but rarely is
hoary sluice
"but rarely is" idk how true that is and even if its true its bandwagon fallacy
supple whale
i learned this the hard way in my masters, that u can write 9 LOC and make a paper on it
and that's enough
because its the paper and research that matters
not the project
hoary sluice
the point is i want to do hobby projects and document them either way
i have 4 years for that
supple whale
my masters is legit
use wasm_bindgen::prelude::*;
use sha2::{Sha256, Digest};
#[wasm_bindgen]
pub fn sha2(data: &[u8]) -> Vec<u8> {
let mut hasher = Sha256::new();
hasher.update(data);
hasher.finalize().to_vec()
}
and
bench
.add('WASM ' + data.length, () => {
wasm.sha2(data)
})
.add('WebCrypto ' + data.length, async () => {
// hash using web crypto
await crypto.subtle.digest('SHA-256', data)
})
.add('JS ' + data.length, async () => {
const hash = new Sha256()
hash.update(data)
await hash.digest()
})
thats ALL the code i wrote to get my masters paper
hoary sluice
lol
supple whale
doing a phd to make a cool project is a waste of time
just do the cool project without blueballing urself with the phd bullshittery
hoary sluice
i would make a cool project either way and i get the title
the title is a lot more useful than the project on the resume
supple whale
i've yet to see a moment when a phd mattered for a software dev job
at least in my friend groups and from my experience talking with companies
idk how it is in the hamericas
but in EU people rarely give a fuck
hoary sluice
if its a cool phd its definitely gonna put you on the top of the list, im sure eelco dolstra has no trouble applying anywhere if he wants to
supple whale
a bachelors usually is enough to get u any software dev job
supple whale
if its a cool phd its definitely gonna put you on the top of the list, im sure e...
you're utterly delusional if you think they will even read the title of the PHD, let alone the PHD itself
a recruiter will spend max 30 seconds on ur resume
dawn ledge
i would love to do a phd but that requires you to contribute something new to whatever field youre targeting
and i have NOTHING to contribute
other than my last shred of sanity and braincells
hoary sluice
a recruiter will spend max 30 seconds on ur resume
if theres Dr. Dipl Ing. at the top or your resume youre likely gonna get the interview, no?
and then in the interview you can show your thesis
supple whale
if theres Dr. Dipl Ing. at the top or your resume youre likely gonna get the int...
no, because you have 0 comercial experince so you're instantly a reject
and if you have enough comercial experience with transferable skills, the PHD doesnt matter
hoary sluice
who said 0 work experience
supple whale
because you spent all the time on the PHD
and work experience, and commercial experience are separate things
hoary sluice
whats commercial experience then
supple whale
4 years of FOSS/internships is close to meaningless
dawn ledge
💔
hoary sluice
4 years of FOSS/internships is close to meaningless
well im doing my bachelor part time with a 32 hour job
im sure that counts
the bachelor is 9.5 hours a week on evenings
supple whale
if its a software dev job with transferable skills, then yeah it does
yeah the only reason i'm doing a masters is because of the scholarship money
i'd insta drop this shit otherwise
its a waste of time lol
supple whale
do software dev]
not even joking
you can write a masters on a "hey is this new framework faster or better than any of the well established ones"
and 90% of schools will accept that
dawn ledge
because you spent all the time on the PHD
supple whale
and its like 4 hours of effort
hoary sluice
my goal isnt to spend the least time possible on the thesis
dawn ledge
is it actually that simple
supple whale
is it actually that simple
dawn ledge
taking career advice from vencord
supple whale
pull a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBbVEqTPlzI
i've done way more complex shit in my lifetime already XD
hoary sluice
https://www.jku.at/en/degree-programs/types-of-degree-programs/masters-degree-programs/ma-computational-mathematics/#c103144 this sounds like what i enjoy doing with aoc already
dawn ledge
i gave my finals not knowing what an integral is and how to do simply it or whatever
hoary sluice
do theoretical physics
wouldnt mind that either but computational mathematics is a lot more relevant for software development
hoary sluice
a recruiter is gonna completely gloss over a msc in physics
dawn ledge
i gave my finals not knowing what an integral is and how to do simply it or what...
i was so burnt out the past 2~3 years were like the most unserious academic years of all for me
i jsut ran diff --recursive on a directory with node_modules
have mercy on me
hoary sluice
thats ALL the code i wrote to get my masters paper
how long is the paper
my hs diploma thesis is 3k loc and 80 pages (30 from my partner)
hoary sluice
nah thats crazy
ornate quiver
my hs diploma thesis is 3k loc and 80 pages (30 from my partner)
your hs has a thesis requirement??
the fuck
dawn ledge
diploma
supple whale
idk they havent reviewed the paper yet, so idk if its good
dawn ledge
what was it on
hoary sluice
your hs has a thesis requirement??
its no longer required in normal high schools (since last year i think - you can choose between an extra subject on the Matura exams or a VWA thesis), but in technical high schools (im in one) you need to write a diploma thesis to get a proper graduation
dawn ledge
my masters is legit
```rs
use wasm_bindgen::prelude::*;
use sha2::{Sha256, Diges...
did you just legit yap 30 pages about comparing sha256 performance?
supple whale
what was it on
"how dogshit is wasm"
answer: dogshit
ornate quiver
its no longer required in normal high schools (since last year i think - you can...
thats wild
supple whale
👍
dawn ledge
maybe i'll do a masters
hoary sluice
thats wild
we have 5 years instead of 4 in normal schools, and most of the last year is focused on the thesis, theres still normal school stuff, grades, and exams but you have a lot more free time and you can enter a bachelor a semester early or a year early for some unis or if its exactly the same subject
supple whale
exponential scale btw
dawn ledge
WOW
i just moved from having my dev folder in wsl to windows _> symlink
and perf improvement in rust-analyzer is insaaane
hoary sluice
they are reviewing it in like half a year
oh i thought u were done already
ornate quiver
wait i swear i saw this exact graph somewhere
supple whale
how can u be sure that 30 pages and 9 loc is enough
because my.... uuuh guardian? said its good
supple whale
wait i swear i saw this exact graph somewhere
i posted it a few months back
ornate quiver
ah
hoary sluice
also what are the rules on reusing old material, could i use an interpreter i wrote in high school in my masters thesis, or could i completely recycle my high school thesis, or do i need to start completely fresh?
supple whale
also what are the rules on reusing old material, could i use an interpreter i wr...
yeah u can re-use it
no problem
dawn ledge
higher y is better right
supple whale
my bachelors is some app i wrote in high school to learn JS
hoary sluice
we were not allowed to use any material from before september unless explicitly marked as such and it would not contribute anything to the grade
hoary sluice
what country are u from
spark tiger
is anyone here familiar with astrojs? im trying to use an npm package on client-side js but for some reason it just says the imported function is undefined
ornate quiver
we were not allowed to use any material from before september unless explicitly ...
how were they gonna know
supple whale
^
hoary sluice
how were they gonna know
youd have to make sure you touch all the files and burn all receipts ig
its not that hard to avoid
supple whale
my bachelors was legit just: https://haven.pages.dev/
dawn ledge
take is as a fun exercise and "rewrite" your old code with better practices :^)
supple whale
which i wrote in like 2022 to learn PWAs
hoary sluice
my problem was more that we werent allowed to work alone, or the grade would automatically be downgraded because there was no teamwork involved, and nobody in my class wanted to do anything interesting so i had to settle on a voice assistant
ornate quiver
guhh
supple whale
my problem was more that we werent allowed to work alone, or the grade would aut...
wtf thats awful
ornate quiver
im thinking of writing an ART hooking lib for my bachelors thesis
although that might be really overkill
that is when i actually get into a uni
supple whale
yeah my shit is usually stuff that has real-world usage
aka shit that'd people actually use
and i use that kind of shit to learn
so i make something people will use, while learning how to
supple whale
nah i make whatever i want to make
oh well yeah duh
i'd like to make a personal gesture controlled, ar assisted small drone swarm that'd scan anything and everything
but its not like its useful
hoary sluice
lol
supple whale
so i'll make a torrent client lib, or utility libraries whcih are
hoary sluice
you can sell it to ikea
supple whale
or polyfills for shit
hoary sluice
depends on the country
supple whale
makes me wonder why AI has no regulations in comparison
hoary sluice
youre allowed to operate small drones in austria as long as you dont spy on anyone
so if you want to scan someones house who gave you express permission you can
hoary sluice
makes me wonder why AI has no regulations in comparison
cause its incompetent
and useless
except for maybe like medicine
supple whale
yeah but sending a swarm of 8 drones to map an entire corridor/room will get u jailed about anywhere
supple whale
on private property??
ah yes, i want to use drone swarms to map my living room
BRUV
hoary sluice
i can imagine them being used to map caves or map peoples houses accurately to the millimeter for furniture design
supple whale
caves are useless because you cant map them very deep because signal cant rly travel that far
hoary sluice
the drones can be autonomous
supple whale
and the types that can are often heavily regulated
that presents its own issues too
hoary sluice
well anything is gonna have its issues but it can definitely be done and it would be an awesome phd
supple whale
anyways, its smth i'll probs do anyways regardless of how legal it is
only because its cool
hoary sluice
i can see it being more useful in mapping peoples houses
if they want to renovate
or drone shows that people can control themselves
supple whale
i have some experience with p2p swarms, syncing and messaging, just the drone crotrol itself will be difficut
hoary sluice
would you build your own drones or buy ready ones
like betafpv and dji have some pretty extensive protocols for controlling them
supple whale
buy ready ones, or buy custom ones most likely
self-building drones is.... dogshit
mainly because miniturization isnt easy
hoary sluice
self-building drones is.... dogshit
i know ive tried
supple whale
i know from simple pcbs and arduinos
hoary sluice
as a project last year in high school
supple whale
that self-making shit using generalized instead of specialized hardware is awful
hoary sluice
it completely failed but i aced the presentation and got a C
hoary sluice
that self-making shit using generalized instead of specialized hardware is awful
we burned through 5 microcontrollers