🏥-vencord-support-🏥

[shell veldt]

lol i wasn't telling u to do it :P

was mostly just talking to myself / anyone else tech savvy who would like to try

[minor quest]

Ohh alright lol

[shell veldt]

did it work previously?

[minor quest]

Nope, I am pretty new to linux so installed it there for the first time

On mint cinnamon

Worked flawlessly on windows

Doubt that would help much though

[random breach]

showhiddenchannels crash

[broken tiger]

update

[random breach]

ok

[broken tiger]

already fixed

[random breach]

there are 75 updates

[broken tiger]

kinda behind on those

[bronze night]

does anyone know if there's a way to get the better streaming qualities using FakeNitro on web?

or is that function just not compatible with how web discord is set up

due to not having the options when you try and start (from what i'm aware of)

(please ping me if anyone answers)

[real mountain]

this is correct, it's just not compatible with web discord

[bronze night]

ok thank you

[shell veldt]

you need to be using discord desktop / vencord desktop for it

granted it could also support higher quality on web but that'd require a separate plugin specifically made for it

[bronze night]

ye was just wondering for a friend cause they have a chromebook but usually i watch their streams and found out this feature due to me using vencord for a while

but all goods

[somber summit]

?

[carmine bane]

press more info and run..

its not signed

ven = lazy

[stiff sandal]

license = expensive

[somber summit]

yeah but why win def detect it

[stiff sandal]

cuz the executable isnt licensed

[somber summit]

oh yeah

[hazy breach]

If you get a warning that the app cannot be opened, click "Run Anyways". You may need to click "more info" to see this option.

This warning is entirely harmless and only shows because the app is not signed. Signing it would cost us upwards of 300€/year.

should prob be added to vs w

[copper iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1026515880080842772/1127243370692104252/image.png

[marble palm]

Windows SmartScreen doesn't know what Vencord is and we haven't signed our executable (licenses are expensive!). Click More Info, and then click Run Anyway.

[copper iris]

bonk

[carmine bane]

that was quick

[broken tiger]

we love tessie

[copper iris]

yeah i saw it and thought

tessie doesnt have a response for this?

this seems like a common issue

[hazy breach]

common tesseract W

[marble palm]

[broken tiger]

common tessie w

[marble palm]

[carmine bane]

tessie rebrand i love

[copper iris]

yop

ven came up with the name in dms

and i thought "thats actually really good"

[hazy breach]

tessie such a good name

[shell veldt]

not wasting 350€ on fake security = lazy

[hazy breach]

supposedly https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/filesubmission helps with making smartscreen shut up

[shell veldt]

go on, gift me one https://shop.certum.eu/data-safety/code-signing-certificates/certum-ev-code-sigining.html

[shell veldt]

i'm fairly certain lewi has done that, but it's pointless + we'd have to submit it every single time we update

[hazy breach]

fair

[carmine bane]

i forgot how much licenses cost 😰

maybe

[copper iris]

i miss the OSS certificates

certum used to do a free one but they made it paid

[drifting venture]

Once again I am here to ask for support with a weird bug that I didn't pinpoint its root yet.
Whenever I type # to link a channel, Discord Desktop crashes. Although I directly pulled the repo and installed, so I guess it is my fault, huh?
Anyway my question is whether this is a known bug or not.

[hazy breach]

never heard of that

[drifting venture]

Alright time to disable the plugins again.

[hazy breach]

does it show the "an error has occured" screen or just close

[drifting venture]

Varies, sometimes it shows a blank screen and the "crashed" notification, sometimes it shows an error, didn't really keep track, sorry.

[hazy breach]

can you run (await DiscordNative.processUtils.getLastCrash()).rendererCrashReason; in the console? ctrl + shift + i -> console tab

[drifting venture]

Alright.

Returns null. Although I had to completely restart my Discord.

Lemme crash it again.

Now it crashed by trying to access this server we are in.

[hazy breach]

uh

are you on canary?

[drifting venture]

Still says null. Lovely.

[drifting venture]

Nope, PTB.

[hazy breach]

yeah see if it crashes on stable

[drifting venture]

Alright, lemme inject to it though to ensure both are on the latest commit.

[hazy breach]

you can use the web extension if you don't want to install another discord

[drifting venture]

I already have it, no worries.

I have 4, Vencord Desktop, extension, PTB, and Stable, thankfully.

Yup, simply trying to access Vencord server cashes it.

Null btw.

[hazy breach]

okay, so can you

• open the console tab without running anything
• crash discord
• send any errors (red text) that you get here

[drifting venture]

Sure.

[hazy breach]

nothing sensitive is in console so you can copy/send screenshots of anything there as long as you dont run any code

[drifting venture]

Alright, just lemme completely restart it first.

To avoid showing irrelevant errors.

These are the errors.

The rest are warnings.

Anyway, lemme look into the # crash as well.

[hazy breach]

update vencord, this was already fixed

cant believe this wasnt the first thing i tried

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/974438614714957874.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[drifting venture]

Pretty sure I am on the latest version already, but I will try to inject again after re-pulling.

[hazy breach]

unless they broke it again

which it wouldn't surprise but if they did it would still work fine on stable by now

[drifting venture]

Proof before trying to crash it:

Crashed when I tried to open this server.

And the error messages seem identical.

Any other details I can provide to debug?

[drifting venture]

Btw that happens from time to time, don't worry. I am sorry for being confusing. XD

Just keep in mind one thing in this whole issue: I am directly pulling from the repo. I dunno if the default installer also does that.

And yes I run pnpm inject.

[hazy breach]

that's... not a commit i can find on the repo

[drifting venture]

Let me click on the link and copy it then.

[hazy breach]

can you send a git status?

[drifting venture]

Your branch is up to date with 'origin/main'.

nothing to commit, working tree clean```

[sick glade]

do git log -n 1

[hazy breach]

actually

[drifting venture]

commit bea7a1711e365e736cf3a9f86928fa0bdeff620a (HEAD -> main, tag: v1.3.4, origin/main, origin/dev)
Author: V <[e-mail]>
Date:   Sat Jul 8 03:40:31 2023 +0200

    Bump to v1.3.4

[hazy breach]

did you build after pulling or just inject

you also need to build

[drifting venture]

Oh @#%&.

I am dumb.

[sick glade]

lmao

[drifting venture]

Very dumb.

[hazy breach]

it's fine

[drifting venture]

Wanna know why I go through the trouble of manually injecting it?

Because of this one draft PR.

That implements the role colored messages.

The build worked, thankfully.

[quaint perch]

It's not working

[hazy breach]

vs mi

[mighty raven]

"doesn't work" and similar are not very helpful. To help you, we need more info!

Describe your issue with as much detail as possible.
What exactly did you try to do?
What did you expect to happen?
What happened instead?
Does this issue always happen, or only sometimes?
If possible, provide steps how to reproduce the issue
If appropriate, provide screenshots or screen recordings

For Vencord issues:

• If you are able to, run the /vencord-debug slash command
• If not, provide the following info:
  • How are you using Vencord? (Discord Desktop, Browser (name your browser!!), Vencord Desktop, ArmCord, ...)
  • What OS are you using?
• Open the DevTools with Ctrl + Shift + i (Cmd + Option + i on MacOs) and check the console tab for red error messages

For Installer issues:

• What OS are you using?

[drifting venture]

Again, sorry for forgetting to build.

[hazy breach]

yeah no issues

[drifting venture]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/904981896801423410.png?size=160&name=How Do You Do%3F

[quaint perch]

I used the installer but it's not working

[hazy breach]

elaborate

not working as in

[drifting venture]

One quick question: how did you determine it is not working?

[quaint perch]

Isn't there supposed to be like a new vencord tab in the options

[hazy breach]

like

[drifting venture]

Right before Activity Settings, yes.

[hazy breach]

did you run the installer and press install

did it say anything extra

[quaint perch]

It installed

Killed discord

And was supposed to be finished

[drifting venture]

Did you install it on the version you are using?

[quaint perch]

Yes

[hazy breach]

like pressed the x, from tray or from task manager?

[quaint perch]

It automatically killed discord

I used the powershell installer

[hazy breach]

oh uh

if you run the installer again does it say it's patched

[copper iris]

that is still quite wip

i will finish it one day though

promise

i just want it to be perfect and im looking into making it perfect

[drifting venture]

That is your work? It is amazing!

[quaint perch]

When I run it again it gave me a new update option

[copper iris]

i adopted rolecoloreverywhere from its plugin purgatory so i cant take all the credit, but i am its current maintainer

the main things i work on are that and the cloud settings system

[drifting venture]

Only issue I ever had with it is that on launch only the messages are not colored, when I hover on the old messages it works, and new messages are colored properly, thankfully.

[quaint perch]

I just checked it says that it is patched when running the installer

[copper iris]

yeah, its the same issue the betterdiscord plugin had as well, which i dont want

[drifting venture]

So it is in a very very acceptable state, you can merge it and later on fix it.

[copper iris]

its because when the message first loads for a user that it isnt aware of it doesnt have the role color info

but then it gets it at a later time, so when you update the message it works fine

i would rather it listen for when the user is loaded and update the messages tho

[drifting venture]

Again, would that be worth waiting for all of eternity to fix it?

Or is it in a working state? :D

I really know that feeling.

But at some point, you need to just release it.

Althooooooooooooooough you run the risk of giving up on it since it semi-works anyway. XD

[copper iris]

unfortunately i am a perfectionist

actually

i have nothing better to do

[drifting venture]

So am I.

[copper iris]

let me get vscode open

[drifting venture]

XD

[quaint perch]

It still isn't working

[drifting venture]

I tried to look into it, but sadly I am no TS expert, so I couldn't work out how to subscribe to the required event, sorry.

[drifting venture]

Hmmmmmmm, does the /vencord-debug slash command appear in this chat we are in?

Also, what is this "powershell installer" you were speaking of?

Were you trying to build and install from source?

[quaint perch]

It doesn't appear

And I was using the thing it says on the github

It says to run this in powershell "iwr "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Vencord/Installer/main/install.ps1" -UseBasicParsing | iex"

[drifting venture]

What OS are you on?

[quaint perch]

Windows 10

[drifting venture]

Try the VencordInstaller.exe one?

[quaint perch]

Can't

I have an ancient GPU

[drifting venture]

Although I really doubt it would make a difference.

[drifting venture]

And?

[quaint perch]

It doesn't work on old GPUs

[drifting venture]

What?

Explain how you found that out, please.

[quaint perch]

It says it on the github

"If the above doesn't work/open, for example because you're using Windows 7, 32 bit, or have a bad GPU, you can instead use our terminal based installer."

[drifting venture]

And did you try it already?

[quaint perch]

Yeah that's the powershell thing

[drifting venture]

I mean did you try the VencordInstaller.exe already?

[quaint perch]

I tried it but it doesn't open

[drifting venture]

I see.

May I ask what GPU? This is out of personal curiosity, you can ignore my question.

[quaint perch]

GTX 670

[drifting venture]

Did you select "Install Vencord" then chose the proper Discord?

[quaint perch]

Yeah

And when I run the installer again it now says (PATCHED) in front of it

[drifting venture]

Also your GPU can kinda run Forza Horizon 5, thankfully.

[quaint perch]

It can run most games

[drifting venture]

Doesn't make sense for the graphical installer not to work. XD

But I am not one to talk, I have a similar problem with something else. XD

Anyway.

[drifting venture]

You sure you can't find the settings?

[quaint perch]

Yeah there's nothing new in settings

Just checked again

Nothing

[drifting venture]

What is above Activity Settings?

[quaint perch]

App settings

[drifting venture]

Weird.

Try uninstalling in the installer.

Then reinstall.

[quaint perch]

Alright

[drifting venture]

I hope it works.

Otherwise you will need a more professional support person, I am just an end user.

[copper iris]

#👾-core-development message

took ur advice

[quaint perch]

Still nothing

I got the graphical installer to work though

But it didn't work with it either

[drifting venture]

Man, checked out your bio, looked very nice and puts me to shame, and I am a few years older than you. XD

[drifting venture]

So you gave up after all? Sorry about that.

[drifting venture]

I am sorry to hear that, but you probably need a more experienced helper, sorry.

[fresh wyvern]

I deleted it but the css is prob from this server and if you havent found it, i will look for it in a few days

[quaint perch]

Like who?

[drifting venture]

Thank you though!

[drifting venture]

I don't know, sorry again.

You will have to wait until someone replies.

[fresh wyvern]

<@&1118512951318548480>awele

[quaint perch]

I'm gonna try uninstalling discord completely and re-installing it

[drifting venture]

Go ahead, tell me how it goes. I hope it works!

@copper iris Just one tip: look into rebasing instead of merging to update a fork/branch to the latest commit.

[copper iris]

they get squashed anyway so merge method doesnt matter

[copper iris]

i cant quite seem to find the hooks it uses to update the message itself and you're right, i shouldn't leave it in purgatory forever

ven will probably point out the hooks and then i can do it though

[drifting venture]

Still makes the tree weird. XD

[copper iris]

true

[drifting venture]

Lets hope Ven does that!

Just wanna talk to you a sec in general, would you up for a small chit chat?

Ping me in #🧊-off-topic-iceman-only if you are up for it, Lewi.

Well, I guess that sounded weird, oh well.
I just wanted to discuss computer engineering since I am one as well, thankfully. XD

[quaint perch]

It seems I have completely different problems

My entire discord is fucked

I can't uninstall it

It's holding me hostage

[drifting venture]

What?

What error did you get, if any?

[quaint perch]

None

I clicked on uninstall on the control panel

And it told me discord was removed

But it isn't removed

It is still installeed

[drifting venture]

How did you determine that?

[quaint perch]

I am still able to open discord

That's how

[drifting venture]

Interesting.

Gimme a minute to find out something.

Can you try to find out its location?

Right click on its icon and get its properties.

Then open the location.

Maybe delete whatever is there.

[quaint perch]

I can't

[drifting venture]

And restart.

Also remember to close Discord first.

[quaint perch]

If I search discord in my search bar it doesn't even show up anymore

[drifting venture]

Then how did you open it?

[quaint perch]

I have it pinned to my taskbar

But I can't right click it to go to properties

Does anyone know where discord is usually installed to

[drifting venture]

Right click -> hover on the entry "Discord" in the menu -> right click on it -> properties.

[quaint perch]

Alright

I got the location

But pasting it into my file explorer it says it doesn't exist

[drifting venture]

Yeah because it has extra stuff.

[quaint perch]

Oh wait

I think I found it

[drifting venture]

Update.exe --processStart Discord.exe
Delete this part of the location.

[quaint perch]

Vencord works now with the fresh discord!

Yay

[broken tiger]

is there a way to use better discord plugins w vencord

[marble palm]

It's not possible to use plugins of other mods on Vencord. See #plugin-requests

[broken tiger]

or no

[drifting venture]

Thank God! Have fun!

[quaint perch]

Thanks

[broken tiger]

how do i install global badges

or anything outside the plugins tab on settings really

[simple owl]

^

If it's a plugin from #1032200195582197831 read the pinned message in that channel

[warm basalt]

hello hi i downloaded a theme and it broke vencord and now i cant disable it through settings, i tried to both reinstall & follow the faq but im on mac, and the control shit i into console doesnt work

[simple owl]

vf themes

[mighty raven]

My themes broke and now I can't open settings or disable them

open the dev tools with CTRL + Shift + i and click on the "console" tab at the top. Then paste and run (with enter) the following code.

It will

• disable custom css (you can turn it back on in Vencord Settings)
• copy your current theme links to your clipboard as a backup
• remove all themes

(() => {
    Vencord.Settings.useQuickCss = false
    copy(Vencord.Settings.themeLinks.join("\n"))
    Vencord.Settings.themeLinks = []
})()

[simple owl]

wait

you need cmd shift i

that's why

[warm basalt]

still doesnt do anythin

😭

[simple owl]

is vencord installed

[warm basalt]

yes

[simple owl]

what about ctrl+,

or cmd+,

(comma)

[warm basalt]

cmd, does open the broken settings

[simple owl]

but can't see themes?

[warm basalt]

cntrl, does nothing

no

[simple owl]

amazing

can you uninstall and reinstall vencord rq

idk why your devtools isn't opening

can you do /vencord-debug here like a slash command

[warm basalt]

Vencord Debug Info

Vencord: v1.3.4 • bea7a17 (Standalone) - 7 Jul 2023
Discord Branch: stable
Client: Discord Desktop v0.0.275
Platform: MacIntel
Outdated: false
OpenAsar: false

Enabled Plugins (8):

BadgeAPI, CommandsAPI, ContextMenuAPI, NoticesAPI, NoTrack, Settings, SupportHelper

[simple owl]

nice nice

but no devtools?

[warm basalt]

when doin ctl sht i / cmd sht i?

no

[simple owl]

ye

k

im trying to find the discord settings.json for mac

do you see a settings.json file here

[warm basalt]

uhh potentially gimme a min to find where its hidden

[plush dune]

what do i put in?

[simple owl]

why are you in devmode

do you have discord installed?

don't use dev install if you don't know what you're doing

[plush dune]

i was?

OH SHI

[warm basalt]

there is nothinf in the contents folder of discord that includes a settings.json

[plush dune]

im dumb asf

[simple owl]

does this mean anything to you

[warm basalt]

if i can get access to the mac hd yes, let me see

[cinder summit]

dw i got it. A kind soul has replied to me with message link to it, so if you're gonna look for it you can check that message

[warm basalt]

under application support there is nothing abt discord

[simple owl]

i guess we got our answer to why your devtools don't work then

vencord prob can't find your settings.json

just like i can't now

uhmm

what happens if you try to install vencord in ur browser

[timber rune]

how do i add themes i searched up to try and find vids on how to do it but couldnt find any if u have a video link that would be easier for the both of us thx

[naive ravine]

any plugin/script that aliases 🥺 to :bottom: ? asking for a friend

[shell veldt]

textreplace

[broken tiger]

how to add the plugins in #1032200195582197831 ??

[marble palm]

It's not possible to use plugins of other mods on Vencord. See #plugin-requests

[shell veldt]

[broken tiger]

thanks

[broken tiger]

anyone know how to opt out of reviewdb?

[marble palm]

It's not possible to use plugins of other mods on Vencord. See #plugin-requests

[broken tiger]

lol

tessie not this time ...

if ure using dev install u culd prolly find a way to build from an older commit

#1032200195582197831 pins

[shell veldt]

no correlation

yes

the theme likely just broke because discord updated some elements

best of luck

[dense cedar]

does vencord desktop use open asar? or are these two things in different concepts and are thus incompatible

[simple owl]

vencord desktop does not use open asar because it doesn't need it

it's essentially the web version of discord but in an electron package

or something

[dense cedar]

mm hm

that's what I thought

thanks for the answer

[simple owl]

ye np

[broken tiger]

hello my messages keep taking forever to send and then it fails

[hazy breach]

discord is dying rn

[dull forum]

wai what?

[pallid harness]

Did u get a fix

Happening to me too

[broken tiger]

nah

[broken tiger]

I get this for the MacOS Vencord Installer now. I just got Discord Canary on my Mac and want to patch it with Vencord. Is there any way to bypass this stupidity by Apple?

[hazy breach]

vs mac

[mighty raven]

Download https://github.com/Vencord/Installer/releases/latest/download/VencordInstaller.MacOS.zip

Unzip it, and run VencordInstaller.app

If you get a VencordInstaller can't be opened warning, right-click VencordInstaller.app and click open.
This warning shows because the app isn't signed since I'm not willing to pay 100 bucks a year for an Apple Developer license.

[broken tiger]

Ah okay, thanks.

[jade turtle]

neither discord nor vencord desktop load for me anymore. they show a blank page in either gray or white and there are a lot of ERR_INSUFFICIENT_RESOURCES log errors. any ideas how to fix it?

arch btw

[dull forum]

might as well use vencord web

[muted coyote]

when i try to open vencord installer on windows it just doesnt open

antivirus is off btw

[dull forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/897116139497340938.webp?size=48&name=this&quality=lossless

[azure perch]

vs win

[mighty raven]

⚠️ Do not run the installer as Administrator

Download and run https://github.com/Vencord/Installer/releases/latest/download/VencordInstaller.exe

If the above doesn't work/open, for example because you're using Windows 7, 32 bit, or have a bad GPU, you can instead use our terminal based installer.

To do so, open Powershell, run the following command, then follow along with the instructions/prompts

iwr "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Vencord/Installer/main/install.ps1" -UseBasicParsing | iex

[fallow fable]

can anyone help

i got into trouble when using fakenitro plugin

cuz instead of video taht i sent was a 3am challenge compreessed

INSTEAD IT SENDED AN NSFW VIDEO IN SPANISH

does anyone lnow why that shit some how happend

[tropic cape]

Does vencord work on mobile?

[torn lagoon]

No, use vendetta.

actually

[mighty raven]

• fixed, update, up
• linux, l
• mac, darwin, m
• missing features, keybinds, mf
• moreinfo, more info, mi
• reinstall, redownload
• windows, w, win

[torn lagoon]

Well basically

There is kinda one

But its very laggy

So try vendetta instead

[mighty raven]

Is there a mobile version of Vencord?

Yes actually! We have an Android app embedding the Discord website

However, as Discord's mobile website has some issues (performance, usability, etc), chances are you won't like it.
In that case you will instead want to use one of the following mods focused on Mobile.

Do note however that these mods are not related to / affiliated with Vencord, so we do not provide support for them in any way. Join their support servers for help & more info!

• Vendetta (android/ios): GitHub - Discord Server
• Enmity (ios only): GitHub - Discord Server
• Aliucord (android only, very outdated but still works well if you like the old version of Discord):
  GitHub - Discord Server

[polar sundial]

Hey, is there a plugin that stops discord from pausing spotify?

I can't seem<@&1118512956410429510>o find it unless im blind

Ah shit im blind lol

thanks much!

is there a plugin that would show you like the exact time messages were sent?

like with the seconds and stuff

[shell veldt]

you sent the wrong video

[shell veldt]

you're out of memory / space

[jade turtle]

I considered that too, but both ram and swap as well as the file system have several gb still available

[shell veldt]

like elf said, no it doesn't.

OpenAsar is a rewrite of discords app.asar (a part of their native code). vencord desktop is an entire rewrite from scratch of the entirety of discords native code. it doesn't use any of discord's native code.

[jade turtle]

well, works again after reboot

[fallow fable]

i didnt

i send the right one

[nocturne crane]

does text replace rules get saved when using cloud backup

[polar sundial]

^

[broken pebble]

do vscode discord rpc plugins not work with vencord?

[shell veldt]

they do

[broken pebble]

it doesn't for me, for some reason

[broken tiger]

no(t yet)

[marble palm]

It's not possible to use plugins of other mods on Vencord. See #plugin-requests

[broken tiger]

common tessie w

[marble palm]

[broken tiger]

no but u can export them w devtools

[polar sundial]

will it be added eventually

[shell veldt]

#plugin-requests

[west stirrup]

How does the USRBG banner thing work?

oh wait nvm

[neat umbra]

??

trojan in vencord ?

[broken tiger]

no

virustotal = shit

[neat umbra]

look analys

[neat umbra]

how i can verified file

[broken tiger]

just false flag

check code on github

[neat umbra]

t'es fr ?

[broken tiger]

ouais

[neat umbra]

ta pas un site pour verifier les liens etc ?

[broken tiger]

mais

vencord

c'est open source

donc pas de rat ou autre

regarde juste le code

[neat umbra]

chu pas codeur moi

mdr

[broken tiger]

je l'utilise depuis lontemps

j'ai pas de probleme

[spice heath]

It's actually really fucking good.

It's just people are too idiotic to know why it flags that and what it means.

[broken tiger]

hackers make bypasses in 5min so no it's not good

[spice heath]

For general use

but by the time the file is distributed it's ran through any run and intezer 😭

[broken tiger]

for general use yes its good for other no

just dont download random file on discord

[spice heath]

Frfr

don't be stoopid

[broken tiger]

?

[spice heath]

or js check and manually compile your open source stuff

lol

[broken tiger]

yes

@neat umbra

anyway it's not my problem i don't download random stuff on the internet

vencord = fully safe

[spice heath]

mmc anticheat still is ass

[simple owl]

thanks google

[broken tiger]

😂

[broken tiger]

incredible

[fallow fable]

because of it i got banned

thanks

i still have a lot of servers

so i need just to forget about it

[broken tiger]

lol

[nocturne crane]

heyya, i was tryna save mine too, found the place where it is, but how can i save it and apply to somewhere else?

[copper iris]

ill have to add a cloud settings api

so that plugins can hook into it and store their own data if they dont store it in the settings file

[broken tiger]

🙏

[bleak tree]

This snippet and the snippet further down are both from me doing this
You'll have to copy it into the console, but I don't think I properly documented it or anything
#🧩-plugin-development message

This one's better
#🧩-plugin-development message

The bottom get is to get the rules
The top one is to replace them

Remove the parts you don't want to export, remove the copying parts to import

I'm not responsible for anything that breaks, so uh, don't break anything!

[jaunty summit]

how do i add my own plugins?

[marble palm]

It's not possible to use plugins of other mods on Vencord. See #plugin-requests

[broken tiger]

Anyone know how to Opt-Out of ReviewDB?

[snow lion]

Is CustomRPC only supposed to show only for yourself or am I doing something wrong?

[still crescent]

You probably put in values that are too big

[snow lion]

oh that actually was it, thanks!

[west stirrup]

Can enabling discord experiments actually get me banned?

[hazy breach]

you can go to the dashboard in reviewdb settings and disable it there

[broken tiger]

I couldnt find the disable button

[hazy breach]

unlikely but yes
which is why the warning is there, don't touch unless you know what you're doing

[broken tiger]

nevermind found it

[west stirrup]

Ok I have another question, is there any version of vencord that works with macOS 10.13?

[hazy breach]

oh

[hazy breach]

don't think so

[west stirrup]

Alr guess I'll just use the web extension

[warm basalt]

in chrome there is no issue (sorry for late reply, stuff came up)

[simple owl]

Ah okay so it didn't auto sync

[warm basalt]

i downloaded the backup json, but i dont know if there is a way to import it without using the settings window

re: developer tools are hidden under view on mac, and its option command i

was able to get it fixed, thank you for all the support along the way

[simple owl]

Wait you got it???

Oh then you're good right

[warm basalt]

yeah im all good

so sorry for not seeing it under the view tab

[broken tiger]

anyone know why spotify embeds are invisible?

[simple owl]

Reinstall discord

It's not Vencord we think

[broken tiger]

alralr

[broken tiger]

reinstalled discord and vencord and spotify links are still invisible

[simple owl]

What about when you uninstall vencord

Does it work with just normal discord

We have 50/50 someone claiming it was Vencord and someone saying it was discord

[broken tiger]

ok i've figured it out

its not a discord or vencord issue

its a spotify issue

uninstall discord, then uninstall spotify

install discord

then install spotify

and it works again

idk if unninstalling discord is necessary but it works

[simple owl]

👍

Ty!

Good for posterity

[plush dune]

anyone know how to fix "broken discord install"? i've tried everything

[simple owl]

I assume you already reinstalled discord right

[plush dune]

yea

[simple owl]

Try

1. Uninstall discord from the app menu
2. Restart your computer
3. Reinstall

If you haven't already

[plush dune]

i did that

[simple owl]

Damn

What's the exact message then

Maybe you'll need to rename something

What's the installer telling you

[marble palm]

Your Discord seems to have installed in the wrong place. This could be due to a variety of issues.

To fix it, click the "Take me there!" button and follow the instructions in the dialog.

[simple owl]

What happens after that

When you click the button

[plush dune]

if i press the button?

nothing

[simple owl]

Oh

Your folder structure is probably borked

Where are you installing discord from

[shell veldt]

it tells you the fix exactly

click take me there

delete discord folders

reinstall discord if necessary

[plush dune]

doesnt work

[shell veldt]

dont just say doesn't work.

be more specific

[plush dune]

i can click on it

but

it doesnt bring me anywhere

nothing opens

[simple owl]

Guy is saying that the button doesn't do anything when it's pressed

And they tried reinstall already

[shell veldt]

win + r > %PROGRAMDATA%

then open the folder that is named after ur username

[plush dune]

yea?

after?

[shell veldt]

do what the installer told you

[plush dune]

ok

[simple owl]

Did it work?

[eternal axle]

Anyone know what's going on?

I run webcord-vencord-git on arch

[shell veldt]

themes dont work on webcord

[eternal axle]

Ah rip I see

I didn't know

I just assumed it was some weird bug

[shell veldt]

you can use Vencord Desktop instead

[eternal axle]

Does it support wayland screensharing

Since I run Hyprland

[shell veldt]

ah

not as of now

[eternal axle]

guess I'll have to wait

But thank you

[shell veldt]

waiting for https://github.com/electron/electron/pull/38833

i tried to install webcord but the setup doesnt even open for me lol

[eternal axle]

I installed it throught the AUR using yay

so I'm not sure

what's wrong

[eternal axle]

what do you run?

[shell veldt]

how do you even configure webcord

[eternal axle]

Top bar by pressing alt

file then options

[shell veldt]

lol

can you show the options

[eternal axle]

But the vencord menu is still in settings

[eternal axle]

sure

can't fit the whole thing on the screen but this is most of it

[shell veldt]

please show the rest too

[eternal axle]

well give me a sec

I have to make this into 2 more screenshots

rest of the settings

[shell veldt]

disable "Use built in contenr security policy"

and it should might work

[eternal axle]

Nope

still fails to fetch

[shell veldt]

you have to restart fully

[eternal axle]

I already did

but let me try again

Nope

still doesn't work

[shell veldt]

you could open a feature request to it to add options to allow github for themes

idek why fosscord has its own csp, it's very pointless

[eternal axle]

It's probably a bug

if csp is off

[shell veldt]

its not a bug

[eternal axle]

it shouldn't do anything

[shell veldt]

wrong

read the option

if you turn it off it uses Discord's csp

[eternal axle]

I mean I could do some trickery with the dev console

to disable csp

then it might work

[shell veldt]

no

you cant

[eternal axle]

well hopefully vencord desktop wayland screenshare support gets here soon enough

[hardy reef]

is there an option to have betterfolders show the folder icon at the top of the folder in the sidebar to close it? something like this:

[shell veldt]

whenever this makes its way into new electron release

[eternal axle]

I'd say a month or 2 give or take

[shell veldt]

couldnt tell you

might be in a few weeks or in 2 years

[eternal axle]

yea, the hope for me is that wayland replaces xorg

since it runs much faster on my hardware

[shell veldt]

speak of the devil

[eternal axle]

it's just going to take a while before developers add wayland support to their apps

[eternal axle]

HA lmao

[shell veldt]

PR just got approved by an electron maintainer 9 minutes ago

so it might be merged very soon

so it will likely make its way into nightly and then soon beta

[eternal axle]

that's hysterical

[eternal axle]

probably will be in the -git aur pkgs in like a week

those things are always updating

to nightly stuff

[shell veldt]

that's not relevant

we download electron from npm

[eternal axle]

fair

[shell veldt]

but yes if merged it will make its way into nightly and soon after beta

i wouldn't be opposed to using beta electron if it has that fix

[eternal axle]

would be nice if it had screenshare audio too

that way I would only need one discord client lol

[shell veldt]

not possible easily

but armcord is trying to implement this

(and has a better vencord integration with themes and stuff working)

[broken tiger]

why do people use web discord 😭

[shell veldt]

way faster

[eternal axle]

it has wayland screenshare

[eternal axle]

that's why

[shell veldt]

discord desktop is extremely bloated

also privacy concerns

[broken tiger]

wayland screenshare?

[eternal axle]

It has to with Linux

[shell veldt]

don't worry about it

[broken tiger]

im so curious

[shell veldt]

google wayland

[broken tiger]

okok

[eternal axle]

make sure to add linux after it

or the results might not be the best

[shell veldt]

anyway performance & privacy are more relevant reasons

[eternal axle]

makes it conform to my os lol

@broken tiger you find what you were looking for?

[broken tiger]

yeah ig

just more better for linux

[eternal axle]

This is the same reason I don't like windows

[broken tiger]

personally i just use windows because idk where tf to start with linux

[shell veldt]

there are beginner friendly distros

linux mint, fedora

[eternal axle]

endevour can also be a pretty good start, but you do need to install pamac manaully on the non-kde desktops

but yay comes preinstalled

[shell veldt]

arch is never good for beginners

and pamac makes it even worse

[eternal axle]

that's why I tell people to use kde

the kde software center

is actually good

compared to pamac

[shell veldt]

you should stick to a distro that just works like the aforementioned

[eternal axle]

But be warned

Linux is a rabbit hole that once you fall down

you don't come out

lol

[solar light]

how do i add themes

no youtube videos are tellin me

i got the css file

now what

[ocean dragon]

my vencord keeps crashing and i cant figure out why

its not giving any errors or nothing

[shell veldt]

crashes how

what happens

[solar light]

?

[ocean dragon]

lemme get a screenshot rq

give me a sec

im on web version rn btw

and then it doesnt recover

[rich tide]

update vencord

[ocean dragon]

apparently it keeps crashing too

[ocean dragon]

ok

[rich tide]

oh web version

not sure if it's updated

[ocean dragon]

no i use desktop

but my desktop isnt working so im on web

[rich tide]

oh then update

[ocean dragon]

ok

w the vencord installer?

[rich tide]

sure

if you can't acess settings

[ocean dragon]

fuck my vencord installer is in dev mode 😐

ok gimme a sec

[shell veldt]

check console for errors

[simple owl]

no, sorry!

the best i have is changing the setting to close other folders whne one is opened

[shell veldt]

that setting didn't work for me when i tried

but i don't even use the plugin so i didn't bother debugging further

[midnight isle]

idk if it's just meant to be like this cause i only switched yesterday, but my messagelogger plugin won't log messages properly
basically unlike with the BD messagelogger, if i didn't read the message before it got deleted, it just won't be saved at all

[simple owl]

restart might work

the setting works for me

iunno

[simple owl]

yup that's intended

no log

[midnight isle]

what do you mean by no log?

[simple owl]

it's intended that messagelogger doesn't actually make a log of the messages

if you don't read the message it isn't saved

no log

[midnight isle]

now i'm a bit confused because a minute ago it did work how i expected it to

[hardy reef]

ahh ok

[simple owl]

confused

ig what i mean to say is there's no text file generated

there's nothing you can reference after discord has closed

[shell veldt]

the logging is in memory only

when you restart/close discord it's gone

[midnight isle]

no no i don't mean that

sorry i may have phrased it poorly

if i don't read the message before it gets deleted, it doesn't stay with the red text after it gets deleted

[shell veldt]

how large is the guild the message got sent in

[midnight isle]

40 people

[shell veldt]

odd

it should work fine

[midnight isle]

i'm more confused because i'm testing it and now it's working fine

i guess i'll just figure it out if it happens again lol

[near frigate]

lol it looks funny

[dim vigil]

Hi, i want to install a plugin to vencord but i don't know what should i do for it. He mention about vencord but i can't see it the plugins. https://github.com/philhk/better-discord-screenshare-plugin

If you guys help me i am gonna be so happy 😄 Thanks!

[dim vigil]

Yeah but as i said i don't know about it. I just installed vencord. It means that i should install his own version of vencord?

[broken tiger]

[...] or just want to use the plugin you can build my Vencord fork yourself (Just note that the installation guide is from the original repo, so you'll need to replace git clone https://github.com/Vendicated/Vencord with git clone https://github.com/philhk/Vencord).

(yes)

[dim vigil]

I already have vencord now what happens if i try to install his version?

[broken tiger]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dim vigil]

😄 I never try to install these thing manually.

I donwload git and node to start the process

[dim vigil]

Ok i got it. Thanks ❤️

[marble palm]

Your original Discord installation has gone missing. Reinstall Discord.

[hardy reef]

is there a plugin to let me copy the link instead of opening it?

[hazy breach]

right click -> copy link?

[hardy reef]

doesn't work for interaction buttons tho

[hazy breach]

oh

then no currently

[hardy reef]

ah that sucks

wait nevermind it does let me i'm stupid

but built in discord links don't i think

[frank sequoia]

Is there a way to use push to talk for Vencord Discord?

[hazy breach]

https://github.com/Vencord/Installer/releases/latest

[frank sequoia]

Vencord Desktop*

[hazy breach]

then no

[frank sequoia]

Thanks

[unborn meteor]

Guys my custom RPC isn't showing for everybody except me. It used to show for everyone including people who don't have vencord. What went wrong?

I just changed my custom RPC big image link that's all...

[atomic garnet]

Lol What how do I customize Themes

[simple owl]

Read the instructions

You can fork the repo, make a new repo and put the theme there, or copy and paste the theme into your quickcss

[unborn meteor]

ngl i have been waiting patiently for an answer but still haven't gotten any

[latent wren]

how do u turn off a theme

[dull rapids]

delete the theme link in the Themes section

[latent wren]

o so u cant toggle

[dull rapids]

no you cannot

[arctic topaz]

Anyone moderator?

I need help installing vencord

[hazy breach]

https://vencord.dev/download

[arctic topaz]

Is it working on ios?

[hazy breach]

vf ios

[mighty raven]

Is there a mobile version of Vencord?

Yes actually! We have an Android app embedding the Discord website

However, as Discord's mobile website has some issues (performance, usability, etc), chances are you won't like it.
In that case you will instead want to use one of the following mods focused on Mobile.

Do note however that these mods are not related to / affiliated with Vencord, so we do not provide support for them in any way. Join their support servers for help & more info!

• Vendetta (android/ios): GitHub - Discord Server
• Enmity (ios only): GitHub - Discord Server
• Aliucord (android only, very outdated but still works well if you like the old version of Discord):
  GitHub - Discord Server

[arctic topaz]

Alright thanks so much!

How do i download tho?

[shell veldt]

https://vencord.dev/download

[arctic topaz]

Ok

Bruh i suck i Need Tutorial

[shell veldt]

what

click link

read

[arctic topaz]

How do i do it

[shell veldt]

do

[arctic topaz]

Which link

[shell veldt]

......

[arctic topaz]

Which one

[shell veldt]

the one i just sent

[arctic topaz]

Ok

SOMEBODY PLS TELL ME INSTRUCTIONS TOHOW DO INSTALL VENCORD ON IOS

[bitter elm]

you can't use vencord on ios

[arctic topaz]

Wydm

[bitter elm]

read it

[arctic topaz]

Ok

Bruhhh

Alright guess i will wait for a laptop or pc

[unborn meteor]

do ios have google chrome?

if so you can download the vencord extension for google and use it on browser (the only downside is that you have to use discord on browser ig) idk if this method would work on ios lol

but you can try

[arctic topaz]

Yes

[arctic topaz]

Discord web is the best

Sl i use it

[arctic topaz]

It says update ur verision to the newest and i check the app store it was updated to the lastest verision

[unborn meteor]

sus

idk then

that sucks

[unborn meteor]

true

[torn lagoon]

on iOS use vendetta

or enmity but vendetta better imo

[vestal elk]

how can i use better discord .js modules with url

[shell veldt]

can't

[shell veldt]

just remove it

[cunning rain]

Hey, i saw plugin that overhauls this... menu, how it called?

[somber gulch]

is vencord available for mobile, and if it is how can i download it?

[hazy breach]

vf mobile

[mighty raven]

Is there a mobile version of Vencord?

Yes actually! We have an Android app embedding the Discord website

However, as Discord's mobile website has some issues (performance, usability, etc), chances are you won't like it.
In that case you will instead want to use one of the following mods focused on Mobile.

Do note however that these mods are not related to / affiliated with Vencord, so we do not provide support for them in any way. Join their support servers for help & more info!

• Vendetta (android/ios): GitHub - Discord Server
• Enmity (ios only): GitHub - Discord Server
• Aliucord (android only, very outdated but still works well if you like the old version of Discord):
  GitHub - Discord Server

[mighty raven]

Done!

[broken tiger]

incredible

[arctic topaz]

HeLp me pls 😭

[steel ginkgo]

Read

[arctic topaz]

This?

This one or no?

This or not this

[shell veldt]

this is not vendetta support.

[arctic topaz]

Which one then?

[hazy breach]

discord.gg/vendetta-mod

[arctic topaz]

ok

[vestal nest]

is it possible to be excluded from reviews?

[sick glade]

https://reviewdb.mantikafasi.dev/dashboard/settings

[lone tapir]

how do i add themes

[hazy breach]

read the instructions

[vital depot]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/922078108344025119.png?size=160

holy shit real my router was unplugged

[broken tiger]

please give download link

[hazy breach]

https://google.it/search?q=vencord

[shell veldt]

** **s/.com/.it

[hazy breach]

true

[crisp rain]

I am using this theme, https://github.com/Lavender-Discord/Lavender/blob/main/clients/lavender.theme.css how do i change the colors?

[warm birch]

**lavender.theme.css: **

/**
 * @name Lavender
 * @version 3.0.1
 * @author Obscure.#4719
 * @authorLink https://github.com/Obscure-Git
 * @description A very customizeable and good looking discord theme.
 * @website https://github.com/lavender-discord/Lavender
 * @source https://lavender-discord.github.io/Lavender
 * @invite B9TK7nqRE4
*/

/* 
!===============================================================================================================================
!                                                ⚠️ IMPORTANT
!                               Important theme files, don't remove anything here
!===============================================================================================================================
*/

@import url("https://lavender-discord.github.io/Lavender/src/source.css");
/* ⚠️ Main theme file — Do not remove */

@import url("https://lavender-discord.github.io/Lavender/skins/skin-loader/skin-loader.css");
/* ⚠️ The file responsible for all the colors and skin loading */

/* 
!===============================================================================================================================
!                                                    🎨 SKINS
!                  The color scheme of the whole UI, make sure you only have one skin enabled to avoid bugs
!===============================================================================================================================
*/
... (88 lines left)

[shell veldt]

phox so unsane

[orchid bolt]

Hey I had a question regarding fake nitro I couldn't find any source or github information on it
but I was interested in how exactly it's bypassing the Discord Rate Limit for Resolution and or Bitrate
And if there's a possibility to edit settings regarding these.

For example:

• being able to change ffmpeg related parameters like
  (Profile, -audio codec flag, -ssim/animation, CQP vs CBR VS VBR, etc)
• generally being able to see directly how the screenshare is working, seeing bitrate in realtime, dropped frames, etc.

[crisp rain]

nvm i am figuring it out

[hazy breach]

discord simply does not restrict steaming quality server side. they just don't bother

as for the other questions, i don't know.

[orchid bolt]

oh...

would this have any utility toward my ends?

[hazy breach]

probably
they do link a vencord fork in there, maybe see if that's useful

[orchid bolt]

fuck, Im very ignorant when it comes to using Git

how do I add the plugin to vencord?

[marble palm]

It's not possible to use plugins of other mods on Vencord. See #plugin-requests

[copper iris]

add it to src/userplugins or src/plugins

userplugins is better if its not part of mainline vencord

[orchid bolt]

1. where's src/userplugins or src/plugins?
2. what's userplugins?

[copper iris]

src/userplugins is in the actual vencord repo

and userplugins is a folder that doesnt get added to git

to prevent conflicts

so its safe to add non-mainline/external plugins there

eventually this will be replaced with a proper plugin loader

[orchid bolt]

any idea how to find that folder?

[copper iris]

in your vencord clone

open it

https://x.lewisakura.moe/23/07/explorer_2023-07-10_19-16-06.png

and it'll be here

userplugins you will need to make yourself

[shell veldt]

check pins in #1032200195582197831

[orchid bolt]

I dont even have a vencord folder

[copper iris]

where.. did you clone your repo to?

[orchid bolt]

its just called discord

nowhere

[shell veldt]

they haven't done any of that lewi lmao

[copper iris]

wha

oh

i thought they had cloned it

[orchid bolt]

I have the regular install done

vencord is just called discord for me

[shell veldt]

b

[orchid bolt]

so I have to use git in the end..

T_T

[shell veldt]

yes

[orchid bolt]

is there a way to save all the settings I've changed of my current vencord install?

[shell veldt]

already are

[hazy breach]

settings should simply still be there

but if they arent there's a backup section in vencord settings

[shell veldt]

why r u so afraid of git

git is awesome

[orchid bolt]

i have a visceral reaction to using cmd

because dependancies scare me

"Can't use this command, you need X"

"cannot proceed, this command is incompatible with Y"

[humble heath]

https://github.com/Vendicated/Vencord/issues/1405

can someone help with this

[orchid bolt]

@shell veldt Example 1:
https://files.catbox.moe/yhwznn.png

[hazy breach]

it's two separate commands

[orchid bolt]

pnpm install --frozen-lockfile are 2?

[hazy breach]

no

cd Vencord then pnpm install --frozen-lockfile

[orchid bolt]

oh I see now

it didn't actually process the prior command

[copper iris]

is this vencord desktop

[sick glade]

if you want to do both at the same time you could just do cd Vencord && pnpm install --frozen-lockfile

[humble heath]

yeah

[copper iris]

wrong repo

vencord/desktop

[humble heath]

oops

[copper iris]

but also im inclined to say this isnt a vencord bug

we dont really do any special handling on mac

[humble heath]

wait so theres like a user script for vencord?

[copper iris]

for web yeah

[orchid bolt]

https://files.catbox.moe/1j8aye.png

[shell veldt]

apparently you cannot transfer to a different account/org

screw u github.

[shell veldt]

please read the instructions properly

[copper iris]

(this is why i say to put vencord under the vencord org btw)

[shell veldt]

you skipped some steps

[orchid bolt]

im literally going

line by line

[copper iris]

then something is wrong with your node installation

[orchid bolt]

I changed to a regular cmd instead of admin for the 2nd

[shell veldt]

you didn't do step 1

[copper iris]

it doesnt seem to be in path

[orchid bolt]

I did step 1

[shell veldt]

don't run as admin

[orchid bolt]

it said to do so

[copper iris]

may need

not "does need"

[orchid bolt]

I shall do without then

[copper iris]

its for if it doesnt work

[orchid bolt]

worked

[shell veldt]

i don't want to do that

[copper iris]

(but it breaks stuff cross-account :( )

[orchid bolt]

see but this is what I mean, without this insight by you I would've gotten stuck without any way to process further.
And this always happens to me at every step

[humble heath]

i get a 404 when i type this in

[copper iris]

https://github.com/vencord/desktop

[shell veldt]

moving it to the org gets rid of a lot of the attribution i get by having it in my personal account

so i don't want to do that

[copper iris]

true

[shell veldt]

not to mention it might or might not cause issues and require me/us to update a bunch of things

[orchid bolt]

@shell veldt alright so it injected vencord and now I basically have it installed again
how do I get the plugin into it now?

do I just do
git clone https://github.com/philhk/Vencord ?

[copper iris]

you have to use his fork

git remote origin set-url https://github.com/philhk/Vencord

git pull

just be aware that we wont give support for this

so from here on out you're on your own

[orchid bolt]

I cant just do this right?

[copper iris]

no

that's a betterdiscord plugin

vencord plugins are not the same as betterdiscord plugins

[marsh trout]

what's the css thing for the cover art? im tryna make it bigger

nvm

found it

[cloud prairie]

Yo, any idea where crash logs are? My client crashes every single time I press on a specific discord server

[hazy breach]

ctrl+shift+i -> console and type in await DiscordNative.processUtils.getLastCrash()

[idle crag]

Hey, got a question with theming (probably more of an OpenASAR thing.) I've got the Black Hole theme going from BD's theme catalog and it seems to lack the "frosted" look when installed. Looks like this:

any reason why? Am I missing something to make frosted windows work?

[hazy breach]

theme's outdated

the last update was last year

[idle crag]

Ah. Ok. Just want something clean and AMOLED black

any alternatives to BD themes?

[hazy breach]

themes that work fine in BD should also work in vencord

there are quite a few other amoled themes on the BD theme website
and i also believe that there's an experimental official amoled theme in experiments

[cloud prairie]

ight, thanks, something up with fake nitro

[shell veldt]

what's happening?

[cloud prairie]

175c7fd4cae4563bb201.js:10135 TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'proxyURL')
at Object.shouldIgnoreEmbed (fakeNitro.ts:568:140)
at eval (WebpackModule153839:2:152484)
at Array.map (<anonymous>)
at i.renderEmbeds (WebpackModule153839:2:152427)
at i.render (WebpackModule153839:2:156678)
at Ds (175c7fd4cae4563bb201.js:1799:100)
at Rs (175c7fd4cae4563bb201.js:1798:890)
at gu (175c7fd4cae4563bb201.js:1839:100)
at Ic (175c7fd4cae4563bb201.js:1831:89)
at mc (175c7fd4cae4563bb201.js:1831:17)

[shell veldt]

hmm

[cloud prairie]

Happens when trying to view one specific server, I just disabled it cause I have nitro, so no biggie for me

[shell veldt]

could you invite me?

there's somehow an embed of type image that does not have an image

[neat cipher]

in Vencord Desktop, for some reason this is happening after logging in

i tried deleting %appdata%\VencordDesktop, but it didn't work

[shell veldt]

you also need to delete %LOCALAPPDATA%/VencordDesktop

[neat cipher]

so reinstall?

[shell veldt]

uh

dont actually

lmao

[neat cipher]

ye ik it's where it's installed lol

[shell veldt]

yeah disregard what i said

i thought for some reason there was also cache there

obviously there isnt

[neat cipher]

that keeps happening

fixed by reinstalling and probably by switching to stable