why bother
#πΎ-core-development
turbid hatch
komac is the underlying software
that the action uses
its a kotlin-based app
but honestly it leaves much to be desired in terms of being able to contribute
austere talon
yeah but why care if it works
fiery osprey
Hi, can I use the patcher on other websites like twitter? 
verbal pumice
well
fiery osprey
Me be trying to modify its behavior but it has a lot of chunks
fiery osprey
Well yeah. I found the actual method I need to patch but I'm not sure how to run the patcher there. It also uses react and webpack
austere talon
Hi, can I use the patcher on other websites like twitter? <:KitaBreakdown:10490...
yes, it functions very similarly
you can use Vencord framework on any site using webpack
but u might find it easier to monkey patch than regex patch
fiery osprey
I do enjoy stealingforking
fiery osprey
Just removing most things hopefully will work
lime stone
Just removing most things hopefully will work
but you'll have all the commits
maybe just copy / take inspiration from the stuff you need
(respect the license though)
fiery osprey
It's gonna be opensource too and removing existing copyrights is gonna be unnecessary
lime stone
i think the whole thing will need to be gpl 3.0
fiery osprey
I'm gonna try make it work first and then think of a license xD
charred monolithBOT
austere talon
is there even any point in the isStaff patch?
@umbral hedge what exactly does it do
discord devtools work without it
fiery osprey
So I made a patch and installed the thing using violentmonkey and it errored out with csp 
nocturne haven
is there even any point in the isStaff patch?
unlocks some settings tabs and adds some other UI components that are usually hidden
austere talon
function Oe() {
var e, t = he.Z.get("disable_new_search"), n = !0 === (null === (e = be.default.getCurrentUser()) || void 0 === e ? void 0 : e.isStaff()), r = (0,
ye.n5)("showNewSearch");
return !t && (n || r)
}
if this returns true history isnt added
function shouldSkipHistory() {
return !disableNewSearch && (isStaff || showNewSearch)
}
so it has something to do with new search
limpid badger
since when tf discord added new search
austere talon
probably an unfinished experiment rn
okay i fixed
{
find: 'get("disable_new_search")',
predicate: () => settings.store.enableIsStaff,
replacement: {
match: /(?<=showNewSearch"\);return)\s?!/,
replace: "!1&&!"
}
},
what kind of spaghetti did they write this time
austere talon
idk this is like shouldUseNewSearch()
but ig new search isnt done yet
so it just hides old search history
that also means we're getting better search soon?? π
nocturne haven
they are checking for both disable_new_search& showNewSearch
austere talon
ig the former is entirely disabling it, like the "use legacy chat input" accessibility setting
and the latter is the experiment?
nocturne haven
discord engineering, will never fully understand it
nocturne haven
that also means we're getting better search soon?? π
waiting for DP to announce this after you found it
austere talon
@shy veldt rn:
austere talon
LOL
so they are working on mobile searcg
and made it break desktop search (for isStaff = true)
austere talon
amazing
limpid badger
Funniest shit ever
shy veldt
since the design toggle only exists on mobile
and it disables the new search ui on tabs v2
shy veldt
and it disables the new search ui on tabs v2
pretty sure idk i didn't test that one
austere talon
but theyre using the pref in desktop code
so maybe its coming to desktop
or maybe theyre just stupid
shy veldt
but theyre using the pref in desktop code
because they cant fucking code π£οΈ
austere talon
quaint sapphire
probably an unfinished experiment rn
didn't they add a new search on the mobile app a while ago?
oh just finished backreading, someone else already said it
torn knot
because they cant fucking code π£οΈ
and not just in JS:
they seriously hardcoded --background-primary and --background-secondary
quaint sapphire
they seriously hardcoded `--background-primary` and `--background-secondary`
LMAO
charred monolithBOT
main trout
Vee
How much do I have to bribe you with for you to merge https://github.com/Vendicated/Vencord/pull/1621
blazing dome
fixed the fork?
fringe basalt
tawdry light
livid heath
but theyre using the pref in desktop code
desktop and react native codebases share common stuff
austere talon
desktop and react native codebases share common stuff
duh?
charred monolithBOT
quaint sapphire
this is the first time I've seen this technique used outside a minifier
(talking about var a = (doSmth(), 5); a === 5)
should prob remove that log, lmao
austere talon
this is the first time I've seen this technique used outside a minifier
i use it very rarely
nocturne haven
i use it for quick debugging
sometimes I also write console.log(variable) || doStuff()
austere talon
cursed
quaint sapphire
i use it very rarely
is there a specific reason why you use it?
do you use it in arrow functions in order to not have a block or smth?
like ```js
const a = () => (doSmth(), 5);
a() === 5;
usually in patches or for a quick and dirty console.log
austere talon
they also work wonders in ternarys
quaint sapphire
val a = (5).also { doSmth() }
a == 5;
there is also .let and .apply
you could patch the Object prototype to add them, in fact I've done that a few times, but patching prototypes is an anti-pattern
austere talon
you can just make them funcs
quaint sapphire
that removes the charm out of it
austere talon
function also<T>(o: T, func: (o: T) => void): T {
func(o);
return o;
}
const x = also(parseInt("42"), console.log)
not as pretty tbf
austere talon
kill
quaint sapphire
lime stone
```kotlin
val a = (5).also { doSmth() }
a == 5;
```
that looks like a bit of a code smell
quaint sapphire
that specific example is
verbal pumice
Object.prototype.also
horror
lime stone
i feel like things like also would just reduce readability though
quaint sapphire
they aren't meant to be overused
austere talon
i feel like things like `also` would just reduce readability though
they absolutely do in kotlin
cause people overuse them so heavily
lime stone
what's a good use
austere talon
they're nice if used for very short blocks but unreadable if nested
quaint sapphire
wait a min, looking through my C# code
austere talon
a good use is a very short block
lime stone
which actually increases readability
austere talon
like
val thing = getObjSomehow().apply { someField = true }
here is where I would use it
to avoid defining an extra variable
austere talon
Ok()
austere talon
usr
why π
quaint sapphire
I don't like shadowing variables
user is already defined
another example for .also
austere talon
you will shadow
idk how to break it to u but the same code without also would be a line shorter
quaint sapphire
you will shadow
austere talon
quaint sapphire
idk how to break it to u but the same code without also would be a line shorter
it doesn't feel right for me to define an extra variable above the return line
especially when it is only used in the return block
yeah I could move the logic outside
but fuck you for being correct
lime stone
like
```kt
val thing = getObjSomehow().apply { someField = true }
```
? this still isn't as readable as
val thing = getObjSomehow()
thing.someField = true
again this just makes the code over-complicated
austere talon
? this still isn't as readable as
```kt
val thing = getObjSomehow()
thing.someFi...
I disagree
i find apply prettier
also apply becomes a lot more useful in inline contexts
quaint sapphire
? this still isn't as readable as
```kt
val thing = getObjSomehow()
thing.someFi...
it is much better than ((o)=>{ o.someField = true; return o })(getObjSomehow())
yes I've done that before
austere talon
i also like apply for android ui code
quaint sapphire
btw, this is what happens when you don't know that .DistinctBy exists
austere talon
i also like apply for android ui code
Button(ctx).apply {
text = "Load missing themes"
setOnClickListener {
ThemeLoader.loadThemes(false)
reRender()
}
linearLayout.addView(this)
}
TextView(ctx, null, 0, R.i.UiKit_Settings_Item_Header).apply {
text = "Transparency Mode"
typeface = ResourcesCompat.getFont(ctx, Constants.Fonts.whitney_semibold)
linearLayout.addView(this)
}
that seems like a good use
quaint sapphire
that is a great use
austere talon
```kt
Button(ctx).apply {
text = "Load missing themes"
...
this is also the one time where i like nesting them because it makes children nested so it's kinda like XML layout which is easier to understand than flat code
quaint sapphire
in the below usecase, .also may not have saved me lines of code, but it did allow me to group the lines in a meaningful way
in js I would do
const user = baseUser.ToUser();
{
/* the rest of the lines here */
}
but in js that is...weird for some people
quaint sapphire
people associate {} with if,while, function and other statements
they don't associate it with scopes
quaint sapphire
shouldn't you declare the variable in the scope, not out
the variable is used out of the scope in later lines
lime stone
if (thing)
const asdfghj = "asdfghj";
i assume this is still scope limited lol
lime stone
java probably stops you from doing if (asdfghj) /* var declaration */
austere talon
this is also the one time where i like nesting them because it makes children ne...
mFooterLayout = LinearLayout(ctx).apply {
setPadding(dp8, dp8, dp8, dp8)
orientation = HORIZONTAL
gravity = Gravity.CENTER_VERTICAL
layoutParams = LayoutParams(LayoutParams.MATCH_PARENT, ViewGroup.LayoutParams.WRAP_CONTENT)
setBackgroundColor(ColorCompat.getThemedColor(ctx, R.b.colorBackgroundSecondaryAlt))
mFilenameView = TextView(ctx, null, 0, R.i.UiKit_TextView_Bold).apply {
gravity = Gravity.CENTER_VERTICAL
layoutParams = LayoutParams(LayoutParams.WRAP_CONTENT, LayoutParams.MATCH_PARENT).apply {
weight = 1f
}
text = "${attachment.filename} (${FileUtilsKt.getSizeSubtitle(attachment.size)})"
addView(this)
}
addView(makeImageView(R.e.ic_copy_24dp, "Download", 4.dp) {
if (mExpanded && mFullContent != null ) {
Utils.setClipboard("content", mFullContent!!)
Utils.showToast("Copied to clipboard!")
} else if (mContentPreview != null) {
Utils.setClipboard("content", mContentPreview!!)
Utils.showToast("Partial content copied. Expand the preview to copy the full content.")
}
})
addView(makeImageView(R.e.ic_file_download_white_24dp, "Download", 4.dp) {
alpha = 0.5f
isEnabled = false
val commonCallback = { _: String? ->
alpha = 1f
isEnabled = true
}
NetworkUtils.downloadFile(context, Uri.parse(attachment.url), attachment.filename, null, commonCallback) {
logger.errorToast("Failed to download ${attachment.filename}", it)
commonCallback(null)
}
})
addView(makeImageView(R.e.ic_visibility_white_24dp, "Close preview") {
it as ImageView
if (mHidden) {
mTextView.visibility = View.VISIBLE
it.setImageDrawable(getThemedDrawable(R.e.ic_visibility_white_24dp))
} else {
mTextView.visibility = View.GONE
it.setImageDrawable(getThemedDrawable(R.e.ic_visibility_off_white_a60_24dp))
}
mHidden = !mHidden
})
}
i can't remember but i feel like it did
austere talon
jumpscare
quaint sapphire
it doesn't feel weird if you are used to python
but when I learnt C-style languages I...
austere talon
```kt
mFooterLayout = LinearLayout(ctx).apply {
setPadding(d...
this is aliucord plugin code
lime stone
kotlin feels like it has too much syntactic sugar (if that's the correct term)
austere talon
yes it does
quaint sapphire
```kt
mFooterLayout = LinearLayout(ctx).apply {
setPadding(d...
imagine how ugly that would look if it was written in dart
austere talon
it makes it very unreadable if you use it too much
kotlin is very nice if you use it like a better java
quaint sapphire
kotlin feels like it has too much syntactic sugar (if that's the correct term)
and that's why I love kotlin
lime stone
4.dp seems kind of dirty to me
austere talon
but terrible if you make it too kotliny
quaint sapphire
4.dp seems kind of dirty to me
eh
quaint sapphire
would you rather dp(4)?
lime stone
i find it similar to macros (where i prefer not to use them)
quaint sapphire
macros are made to be abused, if you don't use them, then you ain't cool
austere talon
4.dp seems kind of dirty to me
compose also does this btw https://developer.android.com/reference/kotlin/androidx/compose/ui/unit/Dp
lime stone
i don't like it
quaint sapphire
someone added reflection to C++ using a preprocessor, basically macros
quaint sapphire
someone added reflection to C++ using a preprocessor, basically macros
well, it is a compiler plugin, so not a macro per se
lime stone
especially when there's a whole class for Dp π that feels overengineered
lime stone
i'd just use a primitive
austere talon
then it's less convenient
quaint sapphire
btw, coming from kotlin, I don't find this to be cursed
but the js community hates it...
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Statements/with
it is basically .apply
austere talon
the reason is that in js it's very vague
you don't know where something is coming from
lime stone
it is basically `.apply`
i prefer this to apply
quaint sapphire
quaint sapphire
bc kotlin is a strongly typed language
lime stone
doesn't it have any
crude hearth
```js
function also<T>(o: T, func: (o: T) => void): T {
func(o);
retur...
guh stop porting kotlin to js
lime stone
i guess c and c++ does (void *)
quaint sapphire
doesn't it have any
it is like typescript's unknown
I only use any when dealing with json parsing/serializing when the type is too verbose to type in classes
and I simply don't care about most of the json values
lime stone
you should write everything in java using eclipse ide πͺ
lime stone
austere talon
you don't know where something is coming from
function log(context) {
const log = console.log;
with (context) {
log("hi")
}
}
log({})
log({ log() { console.log("bruh") } })
the fact that js lets u dynamic stuff like this makes with terrible in js
in kotlin this couldn't happen since its strongly typed
and like with is even compile time
quaint sapphire
oh yeah I can see that happening in js
thats cursed
a friend of mine wrote some cursed python that allowed him to do this
lime stone
πΏ
quaint sapphire
a friend of mine wrote some cursed python that allowed him to do this
actually ig that screenshot doesn't show much
w/o mutability it makes more sense now I think
lime stone
you should write everything in java using eclipse ide πͺ
i take that back.
this is the way
quaint sapphire
Credit: @jagged heart (@justfoolingaround on github)
def with_(variable, func):
current_scope = globals()
previous_state = current_scope.copy()
for f in dir(variable):
attr = getattr(variable, f)
current_scope[f] = attr
content = func()
for _ in current_scope.copy():
if _ in previous_state:
current_scope[_] = previous_state[_]
else:
del current_scope[_]
return content
use eclipse ide for php developers and php-gtk to develop your amazing applications
jagged heart
AYO DEFILING MY NAME WITH MY CURSED SHIT
quaint sapphire
kek
quaint sapphire
https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/2023-09/r/eclipse-ide-php-dev...
use PHPStorm or the vscode extension for PHP
quaint sapphire
soon you'll say that you like netbeans
quaint sapphire
Object.defineProperties(Object.prototype, {
also: {
value(cb) {
cb(this);
return this;
},
writable: false
},
let: {
value(cb) {
return cb(this);
},
writable: false
},
apply: {
value(cb) {
with(this) {
cb()
}
return this
},
writable: false
}
});
.apply doesn't work, maybe you can fix it or smth, I dunno
lime stone
everything else is sh*t
well, everything else is even more buggy
quaint sapphire
do you?
lime stone
i have previously
quaint sapphire
:pepeLeaves:
lime stone
i even made an eclipse plugin :333
lime stone
it makes it look cool
I didn't finish it though π
and since i have intellij idea ultimate i should probably make use of it lmao
(i think i can only use it for open source development though)
quaint sapphire
Eh, did you get it as a student for free?
If so, then it should be fine as long as it is not used professionally or smth
quaint sapphire
Huh, people actually get it like that?
Thought it was for famous repositories only
Like React or smth
lime stone
well the repo does have 4k stars
i guess not famous
https://github.com/PrismLauncher/PrismLauncher fork of multimc with more stars than multimc lol
crude hearth
this is aliucord plugin code <a:shiggy:1024751291504791654>
writing views without xml should be a crime
society if you could use xml in aliucord
charred monolithBOT
turbid hatch
writing views without xml should be a crime
me when jetpack compose
charred monolithBOT
cunning badger
Hello, is there a plugin that only lists users with any badges on the server?
quaint sapphire
Hello, is there a plugin that only lists users with any badges on the server?
no, but you should be able to write some pretty simple javascript to achieve that
cunning badger
no, but you should be able to write some pretty simple javascript to achieve tha...
I'm not knowledgeable about that.
jagged cloak
Compose is unreadable
opinions like this get you sent to the vencord gulag
quaint sapphire
For example here is the code to get all the users that have a custom pfp in this server
{
const wpCommon = Vencord.Webpack.Common;
const serverId = 1015060230222131221n;
const users = wpCommon.UserStore.getUsers();
const memberIds = wpCommon.GuildMemberStore.getMemberIds(serverId);
const members = Object.entries(users)
.filter(([id, user]) => {
return memberIds.includes(id) && user.hasAvatarForGuild(serverId)
})
.map(([k,v])=>v);
console.log(members)
}
dunno if UserStore.getUsers actually returns all the users you are in a server with, or just cached users
lime stone
no, but you should be able to write some pretty simple javascript to achieve tha...
do not the api abuse
crude hearth
opinions like this get you sent to the vencord gulag
wheres that
quaint sapphire
do not the api abuse
I don't think I did that
I didn't individually fetch each user
lime stone
yeah but youd need to
jagged cloak
which it does
quaint sapphire
so I am only viewing the cache
which is ok with me, since I didn't plan to use this either way
quaint sapphire
For example here is the code to get all the users that have a custom pfp in this...
this gave me an idea for a plugin
(no api abuse ofc)
jagged cloak
heres your homework assignment make codeblocks collapsable
nocturne haven
wait, is it a Proxy object?
its just a plain object, it's TS definition could be like {[userId: string]: UserObject}
nocturne haven
this gave me an idea for a plugin
quick note: members list access is restricted to non-staff
quaint sapphire
I asked if its a proxy, bc that would mean they can have a getter, which would mean they could be making api calls every time you access a value in that object
but it aint one
so its ok
nocturne haven
basically you need perms in the server to view the members list inside settings to be able to fetch all guild members
nocturne haven
but it aint one
could simply identify that because it's not an async method
nocturne haven
and the function source is also basically just getUsers() {return someVar} and getUser(id) {return someVar[id];}
austere talon
could simply identify that because it's not an async method
tbf there are a few sync functions that may trigger requests
quaint sapphire
smth like
{ [Target]: {}, [Handler]: {} }
nocturne haven
tbf there are a few sync functions that may trigger requests
yeah fair enough
austere talon
tbf there are a few sync functions that may trigger requests
for example there is an ensure method for reactions
but yeah you're also right
99% of the time sync funcs will just be local
quaint sapphire
quick note: members list access is restricted to non-staff
I am too smooth brained to understand the intent and meaning of that note
nocturne haven
yeah it's just that one discord developer that doesn't anything about codeflow
austere talon
you need mod to list all members
nocturne haven
basically you need perms in the server to view the members list inside settings ...
here's your explanation
quaint sapphire
an API limitation?
nocturne haven
yes
quaint sapphire
basically you need perms in the server to view the members list inside settings ...
aaaah, its ok, I only planned on using cached users either way
no api abuse
nocturne haven
you'll get a total of 120 members (iirc)
austere talon
the ServerProfile plugin fetches members
lime stone
fetching members isn't api abuse
it was when somebody posted it in #π-js-snippets
nocturne haven
it really depends on context
austere talon
then they did smth that was actually api abuse
jagged cloak
π
lime stone
fetching profiles, that is
quaint sapphire
you'll get a total of 120 members (iirc)
austere talon
requesting members is one single api call and normal
lime stone
i guess fetching members is a bit different
austere talon
requesting profiles is one request per user
austere talon
ye
quaint sapphire
i aint talking about badges
lime stone
the initial person was
nocturne haven
this is the cached value, I mean that if you call the api for members even if you don't have perms to see all, you'll get around 120
median rapids
the api is designed to not allow users to easily obtain all members in a server
quaint sapphire
this is the cached value, I mean that if you call the api for members even if yo...
yeah thats fine for me, my plugin will only work with cached values
nocturne haven
the api is designed to not allow users to easily obtain all members in a server
I guess that's for raid prevention
median rapids
however, you can do it if you have kick, ban, or manage roles perms, or if the server has less than 10k members
and you can bruteforce members in other ways
austere talon
search for every letter
median rapids
I guess that's for raid prevention
it's to prevent data harvesting (it does not prevent data harvesting)
median rapids
search for every letter <a:shiggy:1024751291504791654>
yea but this isnt the most efficient
but funnily enough
quaint sapphire
yeah thats fine for me, my plugin will only work with cached values
was thinking of a user search plugin, instead of searching for messages you would be searching for users by their status, about me, nickname, etc
quaint sapphire
was thinking of a user search plugin, instead of searching for messages you woul...
within guild
nocturne haven
users can have infinite sessions
ah right
this is a true discord moment because they didn't spent more than 2s to think about it
median rapids
so you can bruteforce by spamming op 8
austere talon
was thinking of a user search plugin, instead of searching for messages you woul...
about me won't work lol
quaint sapphire
users can have infinite sessions
well, if we go that route then that may be considered api abuse lol
austere talon
you don't get that til you open profile
quaint sapphire
about me won't work lol
whatever is available
median rapids
well, if we go that route then that may be considered api abuse lol
yea this is not something that id do in a plugin 
quaint sapphire
you don't get that til you open profile
is that not cached anywhere?
nocturne haven
well, if we go that route then that may be considered api abuse lol
it's abuse either way
lime stone
I guess that's for raid prevention
heh i guess they haven't heard of nukes /s
quaint sapphire
gotta install vesktop bc fml discord crashing due to memory limits aint fun during plugin dev
nocturne haven
hop on x64
quaint sapphire
there is an x64 version?
nocturne haven
iirc development, canary & ptb are available for x64
jagged cloak
stable x64 when
quaint sapphire
eh, I don't want canary as that uhh, can have unexpected crashes that are only temporary bc they are trying things out
jagged cloak
they hate stable users (real)
nocturne haven
eh, I don't want canary as that uhh, can have unexpected crashes that are only t...
that doesn't happen very often
afaik tho
quaint sapphire
it has happened more than once, so I am aware of it
well, it was more like vencord causing the crash bc discord code was unpredictable during patches or smth
quaint sapphire
median rapids
i tried loading all chunks (mistake)
nocturne haven
crazy how this has grown
median rapids
i love my 64 bit
nocturne haven
yeah
this was my motivation to make something that loads all client mods (it only does two lol)
quaint sapphire
found a neat icon, since it's late I'll be resuming this tomo
lime stone
coool
median rapids
vencordians will figure out whatever the fuck friend_token is 
austere talon
vencordians will figure out whatever the fuck friend_token is <:blobcatcozy:1022...
u ignore
discord be passing undefined for that shit all the time
median rapids
discord be passing undefined for that shit all the time
i figured out when they pass it
my guess is it's supposed to be for linking your profile to people who don't have a mutual with you
but i can't figure out what the actual token is
i'd say not implemented but i did confirm the param exists on both eps it's referenced in
teal halo
wtf balls
azure jay
median rapids
whats that
oh yeah it's max 100 chars (tho that doesn't really narrow it down much)
median rapids
your discord token
tried it π
teal halo
tried mine?
cunning badger
Is there a plugin like this plugin available in vencord?
cunning badger
Alright
teal halo
flexing badges (or anything else for that matter) is cringe
limpid badger
fr, back to waiting for channel tabs plugin to release
olive aurora
literally no one else can see it
orchid cargo
Is there a plugin like this plugin available in vencord?
what plugin is that
charred monolithBOT
olive aurora
typescript was a mistake
median rapids
common chromium W 
carmine berry
sad to see but makes sense
frail skyBOT
frail skyBOT
limber skiff
well I fix later
charred monolithBOT
livid heath
that shouldnt be abuse
anything gateway isn't abuse π
simply making sources for kirby's next paycheck
livid heath
common chromium W <:clueless:1144731300771659777>
me when safari has support for that one css feature that chromium has been lacking for multiple releases
quaint sapphire
I mentioned in the past that I am doing PHP w/o laravel, well, this is how I cope
limpid badger
Rest In Peace review db
lime stone
rip
charred monolithBOT
quaint sapphire
why do I get like 2 stars every month on this repo?
it is my 3rd most starred repo
on another note, github is very good for hosting automatic rss feeds
lime stone
isn't this more #π§©-plugin-development
quaint sapphire
true
austere talon
@verbal pumice you can also match variable names with lookbehinds
/someMatch(?<=(\i).thing.+?)/
this will walk back from match to find \i.thing
verbal pumice
<@406028027768733696> you can also match variable names with lookbehinds
that doesnt apply here
im replacing discord's code for checking what the tag should be with my own
but thank you
half notch
has anyone started working on a plugin or textreplace filter to remove the sig from file links
lime stone
why would you
half notch
its not needed for sending files in the discord client, also it looks ugly
verbal pumice
they will be forced*
half notch
maybe it will finally get people to stop using discord as a file host or readme alternative Β―_(γ)_/Β―
half notch
people like to use discords like guides or wikis
"join our discord to learn how to config this"
instead of just supplying a normal guide
tame escarp
maybe it will finally get people to stop using discord as a file host or readme ...
yes actually that is Exactly the point
austere talon
i think the params are not needed when sending links inside discord cause they'll likely just add them for you, but they're still useful for (temporarily) linking outside of discord
half notch
its like buying a motherboard and they just give you a qr code to the manual instead of an actual book
tame escarp
you'll never fucking believe this
half notch
(gigabyte does that lmao)
austere talon
its like buying a motherboard and they just give you a qr code to the manual ins...
that's a good thing
tame escarp
not necessarily bc link rot but that is an acceptable sacrifice to save paper waste
half notch
yeah if a link just dies one day or they change domains, the qr code is useless
its also nice to just have a booklet with literally everything youd need to know in it
tame escarp
the wayback machine in question:
tame escarp
its also nice to just have a booklet with literally everything youd need to know...
congrats everyone but you throws it away the day after and killed a tree for no gain
half notch
i keep all my manuals lol
austere talon
nerd m
tame escarp
fr
half notch
austere talon
i have not once in my life used a physical manual unless it was ikea furniture
tame escarp
ive used manuals to set things up and they immediately went into the trash can after
half notch
ive been building computers for so long i dont ever need them, but i just like to keep them
tame escarp
i have not once in my life used a physical manual unless it was ikea furniture
guh why does everywhere but the southern US get an ikea every 5 miles
half notch
nearest ikea is like 8 hours away here
tame escarp
i WANT to walk in and grab a blahaj instead of waiting for it to ship
austere talon
ikea is 30mins drive away
half notch
nearest ikea is like 8 hours away here
nearest microcenter is a whole day trip away π
tame escarp
ikea is 30mins drive away
closer than one million four hundred and two
half notch
do you live in sweden by chance
tame escarp
lol
tame escarp
still like an hours drive away
austere talon
more than that
half notch
lmao
austere talon
like one and a half or two
tame escarp
and we would literally ONLY go as pilgramage to blahaj homeland (not even trans)
half notch
thats the NEAREST one
tame escarp
more than that
not really tbh
american drivers are
shall we say
very good at getting places fast
austere talon
definitely not as much as germans
some people drive like 200km/h or even 300km/h on the autobahn
tame escarp
the roads here arent good enough for that
youd literally ram into a pothole and flip over multiple times
pulverizing you and any passengers
austere talon
charred monolithBOT
robust thunder
so firefox support used to exist and no other userscript manager other than the closed-source one work either? q-q-q-q-q-q
nimble plaza
nop
any userscript manager that impliments greasemonkey apis work
like violentmonkey
robust thunder
like violentmonkey
// this UserScript DOES NOT work on Firefox with Violentmonkey or Greasemonkey due to a bug that makes it impossible
// to overwrite stuff on the window on sites that use CSP. Use Tampermonkey or use a chromium based browser
// https://github.com/violentmonkey/violentmonkey/issues/997
wait, but that issue is closed
if i have the userscript installed, what should happen?
robust thunder
i.e. how does vencord look in its default state
robust thunder
check settings
what should i see?
nimble plaza
a plugins tab in discord settings
robust thunder
(also, sorry for putting basically support related stuff into #πΎ-core-development)
median rapids
me when safari has support for that one css feature that chromium has been lacki...
shit feature (real)
austere talon
wait, but that issue is closed
cause they refuse to fix it
robust thunder
cause they refuse to fix it
dammit, there's even a comment afterwards a la:
also you shoud probably link to https://github.com/violentmonkey/violentmonkey/issues/1001
at this point
since that one is at least open
robust thunder
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firemonkey/
this person has the strangest repo structure: https://github.com/erosman/support
but i guess this is foss???
lmao
austere talon
I mean the description literally says you should extract the xpi for source code
robust thunder
try with this one
hmm, no π²
unlucky then
robust thunder
<:PaimonShrug:779524326117736508> unlucky then
why do cup-noodles have to tell me this q-q
robust thunder
just use tampermonkey
tm is supposedly the devil
robust thunder
or just use chromium or firefox nightly
wait, nightly fixes this issue somehow?
robust thunder
so what happened to signed ff extension anyway?
austere talon
austere talon
it's just mozilla to blame
limpid badger
it's strange that it's only allowed on nightly
austere talon
they claim to care about freedom and decentralisation, then make it so that you LITERALLY CANNOT install non mozilla approved extensions unless you use nightly
crappy hypocritical company
robust thunder
what feature flag do they enable in their release compiles that it disables support for them?
also who the fuck thinks of that
robust thunder
they claim to care about freedom and decentralisation, then make it so that you ...
there's some funny argument about security to be made, but if you're forced out of the store anyways, why not include the features that changing/removing csp adds?
robust thunder
oh shit, based
austere talon
and no there really isn't
chrome is unsafe?
android is unsafe?
windows is unsafe?
linux is unsafe?
there is no risk involved with allowing extensions from third party sources. if someone wants to scam you and you're stupid, you're gonna get scammed either way
robust thunder
chrome is unsafe?
android is unsafe?
windows is unsafe?
linux is unsafe?
there ...
linux is currently going through glibc's prelude having an arbitrary execution exploit
i.e. everything is unsafe lmao
austere talon
that has nothing to do with allowing apps from third party sources
also just fyi the majority of extensions on the firefox store are not checked at all
there is a lot of malware
limpid badger
isn't chrome web store has the same issue
austere talon
yes but that is irrelevant
main trout
firefox bad
austere talon
the point is that locking down your store has no security benefit
main trout
shrimple
austere talon
mozilla addons is just horrible
robust thunder
the point is that locking down your store has no security benefit
does it not? if every plugin actually had to be inspected first, that would make people at least liable if malware appeared in the store
austere talon
also just fyi the majority of extensions on the firefox store are not checked at...
.
robust thunder
it's less about whether or not things are actually secure with companies, it's that someone can be held accountable when it isn't :^) society
robust thunder
what the fuck is an add-on ID
limpid badger
did you read the thing u posted
lemme re-check, usually have understanding issues so i can get confused easily
alr, nevermind on that one, apologize for it
austere talon
limpid badger
robust thunder
what in the world
austere talon
le blocked
topaz thistle
@austere talon I'll also add github-actions here to automatically build the binaries instead of having them in the git-repo
austere talon
yeah that's nice
i mostly did it cause it was just quick and dirty to get a POC going
they should be in releases eventually
topaz thistle
Let me know if the PR is good as is currently
austere talon
Let me know if the PR is good as is currently
consider using pnpm instead of normal npm
austere talon
not sure, i think i initially named it vencord-virtmic? that way it still contains the name of the general project so it's not gonna conflict with other virtmic impls but also generic
topaz thistle
Alright
austere talon
i just had to chuckle a bit when I saw that
topaz thistle
vencord-screen-share?
austere talon
cmake/cpm.cmake is very large, is that supposed to be gitignored?
topaz thistle
i just had to chuckle a bit when I saw that
Your reply was really funny xD
topaz thistle
cmake/cpm.cmake is very large, is that supposed to be gitignored?
No, it's supposed to be in the repo, however, we could also fetch it at configure time
austere talon
also feel free to change the license to whatever open source license you want
i think a more permissive license would be better so other projects can use it too without needing to be gpl
Apache or LGPL or something along those lines
but if you have any specific preference that's also fine
topaz thistle
MIT?
austere talon
sure
the only reason i made it gpl was because it used some code from discord-screenaudio
ill give a more thorough review later, although ill probably not be able to comment too much on the code itself since you're way better at C++ than me 
also out of curiosity, why the switch from napi to v8? is it better?
austere talon
really? the official node addon guide has v8 at the very top so i figured v8 was recommended
topaz thistle
It is intended to insulate addons from changes in the underlying JavaScript engine and allow modules compiled for one major version to run on later major versions of Node.js without recompilation. The ABI Stability guide provides a more in-depth explanation.
charred monolithBOT
robust thunder
@topaz thistle your files somehow miss their ending newline..
topaz thistle
Which? The source files?
robust thunder
holy shit
robust thunder
Which? The source files?
yeah..
topaz thistle
That's intended and done by clang-format
robust thunder
interesting, why would one do that?
topaz thistle
Well why should I not
robust thunder
writing text at the end of the file would create a change in the line before it
austere talon
trailing newlines are common *nix practice
robust thunder
i.e. here lines 36+ would appear, but so would 36
austere talon
Benefits of trailing newlines include the ability to concatenate or append to files as well as output files to the terminal without interfering with shell prompts.
robust thunder
and if you were to output the file in a she-
exactly
if you cat the file, the missing newline would just put my prompt after your last line
breaking my setup a little
austere talon
oh wait what https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/18789
robust thunder
(yeah most shells account for that, say zsh)
robust thunder
oh wait what https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/18789
i don't comprehend what they're trying to say
i.e. source isn't text?
topaz thistle
alr fixed
robust thunder
i guess vscode does actually call itself a code editor, which is surprisingly pretentious
nvim as an ex:
topaz thistle
Is pnpm avaiable in dnf?
robust thunder
Is pnpm avaiable in dnf?
https://packages.fedoraproject.org/search?query=pnpm doesn't seem like it
topaz thistle
`.gitignore`, `{,addon/,server/}CMakeLists.txt`, `package.json`
Ah thanks, only ran clang-format earlier
robust thunder
Ah thanks, only ran clang-format earlier
no worries uwu
robust thunder
Is pnpm avaiable in dnf?
they want you running
curl -fsSL https://get.pnpm.io/install.sh | sh -
Yeah got it already ^^
robust thunder
alr
topaz thistle
Have a build workflow for arch and fedora, arch has it in the repos, that's why I was curious if fedora has it as well
quaint sapphire
i guess vscode does actually call itself a `code editor`, which is surprisingly ...
why is it pretentious?
robust thunder
Have a build workflow for arch and fedora, arch has it in the repos, that's why ...
it's not in copr either: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/fulltext/?fulltext=pnpm
q-q
robust thunder
why is it pretentious?
because it's not a structural editor, it's barely an ide, intellisense isn't in the text editor but supplied via the lsp. it's in all senses of the word a text editor frontend for monaco.
quaint sapphire
bro, people call Notepad++ a code editor, if Notepad++ is a code editor, then vscode is an IDE by that standard
topaz thistle
Github Workflows :')
robust thunder
@quaint sapphire whilst i'm being pedantic, let me at least be thorough. when we get stuff like dion system's stuff, then we can talk about "code editors" https://dion.systems/assets/rename_A338D24E-0B4EB638-6EF02674-8FB3D1A4.gif
real flower
bro, people call Notepad++ a code editor, if Notepad++ is a code editor, then vs...
I remember when I first got into programming
I thought notepad++ was the coolest stuff ever
now its
yeah
robust thunder
bro, people call Notepad++ a code editor, if Notepad++ is a code editor, then vs...
wait, what do i care if: "people call Notepad++" whatever. it isn't.
quaint sapphire
because it's not a structural editor, it's barely an ide, intellisense isn't in ...
vscode invented LSP, so it ain't really smth that it can't take credit for
robust thunder
pardon?
oh that's triple negated
good lord
it's for the reason that microsoft didn't want to implement support for every language themselves, they developed lsp, i agree
lime stone
bro, people call Notepad++ a code editor, if Notepad++ is a code editor, then vs...
it kind of is with plugins
austere talon
Have a build workflow for arch and fedora, arch has it in the repos, that's why ...
just use the pnpm action
topaz thistle
(β―Β°β‘Β°)β―οΈ΅ β»ββ»
austere talon
also installing it from the repos is pointless you can just install it with npm
quaint sapphire
it kind of is with plugins
Kate editor is much much better than notepad++
austere talon
the pnpm action has goodies like caching dependencies across runs
quaint sapphire
lime stone
no, vscode
vscode often does feel like an ide with actions to launch and content assist
quaint sapphire
vscode is nice when someone has configured the debug stuff, so you can step into function calls
although, if that is enough to call it an IDE, then dnSpy is an IDE for C#
topaz thistle
https://github.com/Vendicated/Vencord/blob/main/.github/workflows/build.yml#L21-...
Thanks!
inb4 it breaks the worklfow again :)
lime stone
I remember when I first got into programming
I thought notepad++ was the coolest...
notepad++ is nice and light though
austere talon
inb4 it breaks the worklfow again :)
been there π writing workflows is such a pain
robust thunder
been there π writing workflows is such a pain
why isn't there better ci tooling?
there's the whole nix aproach, but that's not bulletproof either
topaz thistle
wdym writing workflows is the best thing ever 
couldn't imagine a more fun thing to do
robust thunder
couldn't imagine a more fun thing to do
https://flake.parts/ uwuwuwu
topaz thistle
About to auto click this button
robust thunder
actually @austere talon would you merge a working nix flake into this?
austere talon
is there a (putting gun into his mouth) emoji?
robust thunder
<:PekoGun:825271097574162433>
is that also in response to the nix flake?
turbid hatch
actually <@343383572805058560> would you merge a working nix flake into this?
we do not wish to support nix
we will never support nix
no one here knows how to maintain nix and none of us use nix
turbid hatch
if we had an active core contrib that actually used it then it might be feasible, but we can't merge something in and then never support it because people will expect support
sorry
also re code editors: if you can edit code in it it's a code editor, who cares if it doesnt syntax highlight or if you cant get extensions, notepad can edit code and i have very much made changes to c++ code in notepad
robust thunder
nah, specifically with the c++ project it would maybe make sense, specifically to remove the need for any work on workflows
robust thunder
also re code editors: if you can edit code in it it's a code editor, who cares i...
i mean, i was being pedantic
turbid hatch
and i am being pedantic but on the other side of the spectrum
robust thunder
que
there's a nix flake bot that just runs your tests and tries building using the flake, which is sort of nice
turbid hatch
bleh
robust thunder
bleh
the unixporn discord has a few beautiful emotes, one of them is just the nixos symbol crossed out
we love nix
turbid hatch
as much as i think its a cool idea i find it causes some issues with a lot of software which then requires extensive time to fix
too much suffering for me
robust thunder
yeah no, i used to daily-drive nixos. but when you're actually forced to write nix-exprs and affix overlays and such it's a hassle
turbid hatch
only use case i have for it really
is redeploying vms
or making replicas
when i dont want to or cant use containers
robust thunder
is redeploying vms
yeah, server-side it's p cozy
austere talon
I don't get the point of daily driving nix personally
every time I hear about nix it's something negative or inconvenient
olive aurora
STOP DOING NIX
PACKAGES WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE ISOLATED
YEARS OF PACKAGE MANAGEMENT yet NO REAL-WORLD USE FOUND for going further than Flatpak
Wanted to do it anyway for a laugh? we had a tool for that: it's called PODMAN
"error: infinite recursion encountered, at undefined position" statements dreamed by the utterly deranged
austere talon
oh you want to do super basic thing? yeah that's really easy you just need to edit some system config then run some nix update command and add two overlays and it's really that easy
turbid hatch
reproducability is cool but i could also write a windows group policy to achieve the same thing with windows server deployments
:P
robust thunder
eh, nix the language kind of sucks. guix did the right thing to stick with something existing, and scheme is malleable enough to become a hermetic package manager anyway
olive aurora
reproducibility? yeah man you can copy my ssd no problem
austere talon
or people complaining to me that they can't build one of my programs cause they lack the most basic libraries ever (like the c++ stdlib), although ig that's more of a user error
robust thunder
but, i used to have an inpersistent setup
lapis sleet
olive aurora
nix manages to be more pain than gentoo
robust thunder
gentoo is pain?
olive aurora
see
robust thunder
emerge does its job, no?
olive aurora
you have used nix for too long
robust thunder
bruh, emerge is fine
austere talon
average nix user 
gentoo is painful but the good kind of pain
i installed gentoo on a single core 1gb ram hdd laptop from 2005, it was great fun and definitely didn't take me 6 hours
olive aurora
true
im gonna revive my old laptop and install gentoo on it
poor thing the chassis is barely holding up and the trackpad is literally Gone
lime stone
also re code editors: if you can edit code in it it's a code editor, who cares i...
notepad++ has syntax highlighting though
so i think it's even more of a code editor
topaz thistle
reproducability is cool but i could also write a windows group policy to achieve...
Windows Servers are a sin that will send you straight to hell
turbid hatch
Windows Servers are a sin that will send you straight to hell
my company uses them exclusively
except in a couple of rare cases
topaz thistle
Mine does as well and I'd say they both deserve to rot in hell for using windows servers
turbid hatch
tbf we dont have a choice xd
topaz thistle
Are you using some windows exclusive components?
turbid hatch
no, we're a windows software dev company
:P
we write software exclusive to windows because it's the easiest to work for
we're using .net framework still because loads of our stuff is legacy codebases that we cant move to .net sdk
i mean we have stuff that still runs on vb6
so
though fortunately that's rarer now
topaz thistle
ouch
topaz thistle
Btw regarding the virtual mic as far as I can tell it's only used in Vesktop, could we also load node modules from a normal Vencord plugin?
austere talon
Btw regarding the virtual mic as far as I can tell it's only used in Vesktop, co...
yes
the idea is to also turn it into a plugin for normal discord
topaz thistle
nice ^^
small flare
alright noticing voicemessages plugin is hit or miss on ios
using the actual voice recorder is fine and will pretty much always work
upload file usually always works on android, ios it never works. im thinking its maybe being encoded as the wrong codec
idk WHY that would be happening, the code looks fine from my very limited knowledge of js
austere talon
alright noticing voicemessages plugin is hit or miss on ios
using the actual vo...
it needs to be opus ogg
anything else will not play on ios
but will play on all other platforms
small flare
what is this for then
austere talon
what is this for then
that's just us telling discord it's opus, but the actual file is whatever you upload
you can use an online converter tool to convert to opus ogg
small flare
ah i see
theres not going to be a way to change the codec when its uploaded right
at least on desktop
woeful sable
oml been waiting for a plugin like this π
spark pivot
W plugin though
limpid badger
Sounds useful
charred monolithBOT
woeful sable
aliucord jumpscare
spark cove
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insane
spark cove
theres not going to be a way to change the codec when its uploaded right
we could we just need an opus encoder library
spark cove
yea thats not sane
is there like a ffmpeg wasm build or something
ideally it'd be something that is just for opus encoding
and in js probably
because getting the PCM data from the file is pretty easy
small flare
sure hope that exact library exists for that one hyperspecific application π’
mannnn
spark cove
ngl it shouldnt be cus vesktop recording
unless that virtual mic is
a solution to that
spark cove
whats the difference between encoding and converting
chrome has a built in decoding for like every format
ig any browser with modern web audio apis would
austere talon
whats the difference between encoding and converting
converting would need decoders for every format you wanna support
encoding only needs opus
austere talon
maybe with web apis reencoding would be easy but no idea
spark cove
its still on my list of things to do when motivated again
spark cove
it is lol ol ol
theres a purejs version and a wasm version
actually that one u sent looks like wasm version
spark cove
theres a purejs version and a wasm version
sike
austere talon
the js file??
spark cove
im looking at a different repo
austere talon
cause the only wasm file i can find is the decoder
kinda weird that the decoder is wasm but the encoder is pure js
spark cove
and yea the one u sent initializes a wasm module with a base64 string
spark cove
yea super
xdxd
if u scroll thru thats like 90% of the file
THIS is purejs
i think its literally
libopus C library
compiled to js
austere talon
that looks so similar to the other one
like same code
ig it's auto generated by emscripten or whatever
spark cove
yea i think emscripten lets u either
austere talon
https://github.com/mmig/opus-encdec/blob/master/dist/libopus-encoder.js
oh my god this is so cursed
spark cove
compile to purejs or make it a wrapper to wasm calls
austere talon
it's like asm in js
spark cove
yea you love HEAP32
spark cove
holy shit
austere talon
you can't tell me v8 can optimise that well
spark cove
labels being used as GOTOs
spark cove
you can't tell me v8 can optimise that well
yea i do wanna see performance
austere talon
labels being used as GOTOs
gonna do that from now on
