🧊-off-topic-iceman-only

[glass shell]

but it would probably be horrible to use

[spring trellis]

thx

[drifting carbon]

np

[slow urchin]

:3

HOLY SHIT IM DOING THAT WHEN I GET HOME

FIRE

[glass shell]

damn stealing my idea

[slow urchin]

:3

I feel like it'd have to be alongside a plugin that changes how discord works those

[glass shell]

can't own anything in this fucked up ven cord

[slow urchin]

And Nina gets mad at me when i manipulate the DOM directly 😭

Plus i don't know react

!!

[glass shell]

themes i know a lot because it's just CSS and i do web design

but plugins

no

[prime ibex]

i hate im 2 broke 4 nitro

[slow urchin]

Yeah same, I'm bad at making plugins but i can

[slow urchin]

That's awesome for you brokie bestie

🔥

[prime ibex]

naw 😭

[slow urchin]

I wonder, can you get paid for JUST web design

Like literally just mockups with css

Lc.google CSS as a job

[night blaze]

HTML and CSS Jobs: How to Get Hired - Skillcrush

In this post, we'll discuss exactly what kinds of work you can (and can't) get with just HTML and CSS under your belt, as well as what skills you'll need to ...

Google Search • labsCore • Page 10/30

[slow urchin]

UI/UX DESIGNERS GET 100K A YEAR??????????????????!?!????!??

[slow urchin]

AND IT SAYS IM FIT FOR IT??

chat

I'm cooked to perfection golden brown in a good way

Chef's kiss

[drifting carbon]

hi

[junior ridge]

my head hurts so badddd

:c

i wanna cry

[slow urchin]

40000mg aspirin for you

[junior ridge]

pls

[stone pawn]

2L of vodka

[serene swallow]

hey

i got a question

can i run vencord in a 10+ year old pc

(not for me my friend asked it randomly)

[unreal siren]

https://tryitands.ee/

[serene swallow]

nha tell

nah tell me

[unreal siren]

idk im not ur friends 10+ year old pc

[serene swallow]

xdd

[unreal siren]

try giving it a nice dinner, maybe some garlic bread and it'll be nice

[serene swallow]

you got vencord?

[unreal siren]

why else would i be here

[serene swallow]

okey

[slow urchin]

Yes

My PC is that it's just mildly upgraded, before i upgraded it worked better than normal discord

[unreal siren]

tbf they said can it run, not can it run well

[slow urchin]

Dependant on the plugins you use

[drifting carbon]

if that computer can run windows 10 or linux

you can actually run vencord

[mystic salmon]

petition to rename this channel to 🐹-off-topic-chomiki-only to make the plural polish

[slow urchin]

Linux on a TI-84

[slow urchin]

Signed with a cozy

[drifting carbon]

yes rename the channel to that

[stone pawn]

I approve of this message

[drifting carbon]

we need one of the mods to approve this!!

[slow urchin]

@lapis lava

Anyone else got fucked up hand and arm nerves Lol

[stone pawn]

Uh no

[stark herald]

lc.tr chomiki

[night blaze]

<:i:1263591655143903314> ​ 🇵🇱  Polish   ​ ​ ​​<:i:1263590004886863902> ​ ​ ​ ​🇺🇸  English  

hamsters

Google Translate • labsCore

[slow urchin]

Awh man

[drifting carbon]

so we back in the min-

[slow urchin]

Ah yes thank you <:_:1026533070955872337>

[somber leaf]

My wrists are inflamed and causes chronic pain in my hands if that counts

[slow urchin]

Woahhh

Urs is more interesting than mine

[drifting carbon]

rip

[slow urchin]

I just drew without breaks for so long one time that i fucked the hell out of the whole right side of my right arms nerves

[somber leaf]

Yeah the nerves tunnel is inflamed

[slow urchin]

Everything just doesn't feel right when it touches there i had to wear a cast for a bjt

[slow urchin]

It's never gonna go away cuz i didn't listen and kept using my wrist like a dumbass

[somber leaf]

Normal

[somber leaf]

Neither will mine

[slow urchin]

We're injury oomfies

!!

[serene swallow]

yo

please can anyone come in dms

rq

[slow urchin]

What 😭

[somber leaf]

No the DM button is broken sorry

[serene swallow]

bruh

[somber leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063184323467034676/1301313209000661092/ezgif-7-6c79bac569.gif

[serene swallow]

im windows 10

[slow urchin]

Sorry my cat ate my pc

[serene swallow]

cool

your cat is caseoh now

[somber leaf]

My cat ate my liver

[slow urchin]

Brainrot

[slow urchin]

#liversforlions

[somber leaf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1107342539977142382/ECECB10C-0670-4F34-A942-45DA1099CBE6.gif

I’m so upset now I remember sho got to hold my calico but I didn’t get to hold toast

[slow urchin]

I must see both of these afformentioned creatures

[somber leaf]

Oh yeah don’t some people just not hear voices in their heads?

[jaunty trellis]

that explains a lot actually

[slow urchin]

Yup some people operate on auto pilot. Did you know only 60% of people are "sentient" ?

[jaunty trellis]

horror

[somber leaf]

Ask @soft wadi for toastttt

[jaunty trellis]

shoooo

[slow urchin]

Omg it looks so scrungly

Love

[jaunty trellis]

you will give treats and scratches

[slow urchin]

Imagine calicos if it was white purple and blue

Cotton candy calicos

Would consume

[stark herald]

evil

[somber leaf]

She won’t let me pet

[jaunty trellis]

aw

[unborn hound]

Finally someone who gets it

[jaunty trellis]

nerd

[unborn hound]

no u

[slow urchin]

Ain't no way this guy is still fucking here

[unborn hound]

im too sdoobid to be nerd

[jaunty trellis]

I should make like 200 git aliases this is starting to get annoying

[slow urchin]

@cosmic otter @burnt maple @void ivy can one of y'all kill this guy

Just an annoying troll

[void ivy]

vban 2 @spark wagon troll

[neon ferry]

Done!

Banned ocoff222 (@spark wagon)

[void ivy]

annoying

[slow urchin]

Best mod love you lewi

[stark herald]

who next

[slow urchin]

<:_:1026533070955872337>

Lewi is just chill like that, it's shrimple

[glass shell]

hi vencord

[jaunty trellis]

haiii

[cobalt echo]

hi

[slow urchin]

Aloha vendors!!

There should be a chat called #🏪-market-hall where we all set up fake shops bc this is vennie vencord vendors

And we could make art for it

So kewl

[somber leaf]

Okay the part about NIX os is facts tho

[jaunty trellis]

mean

[somber leaf]

Come to the dark side, learn arch

[jaunty trellis]

I used arch for 3 years smh

[somber leaf]

oh I’ve seen you’ve fallen

[jaunty trellis]

also I keep making arch vms cuz it's the fastest one to install and set up

[somber leaf]

Good

[covert patio]

it is very safe to share my ssh keys through discord

[safe moat]

Im thinking of getting Linux Mint for my next pc. Fuck Windows 11. I refuse to ever use it.

[somber leaf]

It’s fine

I hate windows but it’s fine

arch is the best tho

[cerulean coral]

rate my device combo, google pixel 7 with grapheneos, ipad mini 7 and thinkpad t480 running fedora

[somber leaf]

Why a pixel

They’re a cash grab for Google

[cobalt echo]

I have 4k pixels >.<

[cerulean coral]

because grapheneos

[somber leaf]

Does it not support any other android?

[cerulean coral]

Nope

Only google pixels

Well it used to support non pixel phones but it's very outdated on those models

[somber leaf]

Lame

Older pixels are cheap but they have dogwater hardware

You will use and LOVE googles tensor chip SO MUCH

[clever elm]

good morning ven cord

[sick mural]

Good afternoon

[cobalt echo]

Good morning Styx!

[clever elm]

[cobalt echo]

Bocchi fan :3

[clever elm]

still watching it but i like it :3

[safe moat]

I just don’t like Windows 11 tbh. Full of AI bloatware shit. Im fine with Windows 10 though. Sucks it’s end of life is on October 14 of this year

[covert patio]

yay my tailscale server is working

[cobalt echo]

Coool :33

[lusty oak]

means I gotta migrate fully to linux mint

[jaunty trellis]

hop on fedora

[robust relic]

https://tenor.com/view/violence-cat-attacking-gif-24912080

[sudden sun]

@somber leaf hiiiii

[somber leaf]

Haiii

[somber leaf]

Where are my nvidia drivers at buddy?

[covert patio]

@cobalt echo hiiiiii :3

[jaunty trellis]

shrimply don't have novidoe card

[rapid aurora]

HELLO EXPLODE IF YOU HI BACK

[jaunty trellis]

also copr I thinks

nvm rpmfusion

close enough

[cobalt echo]

hiii :3

[sudden sun]

@cobalt echo hiii

[jaunty trellis]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/854797413951733770/1089266954046550026/attachment-19.gif

[mystic salmon]

ltsc has support until 2030

[mystic salmon]

Alternatively switch to linux

[jaunty trellis]

shrimply hop on steamos once public installer drops

ngl for most ppl steamos is probably gonna end up being good enough for most things

[rapid aurora]

GUYS I HAVVE A JOKE

[jaunty trellis]

ono

[jaunty stag]

switch to windows

[rapid aurora]

a chinese player was mad, why?
when arthur morgan died he couldn't find a way to report that to the chinese government for hurting his feelings

I'm funi

[jaunty trellis]

what are you on and where can I get some

[cobalt echo]

hiiii

[somber leaf]

Oh lol is this guy still here?

[jaunty trellis]

😭

[hazy whale]

you know some servers ban for vencord it's so stupid

[jaunty trellis]

I've seen servers ban for less

[safe moat]

What is ltsc

[civic bolt]

long term support channel

[digital kettle]

why is it suggesting ‼️ (and apperently on every samsung keyboard it's like this fhdhdb)

[civic bolt]

‼️

how many emojis do i have to put in 1 message for me to get shot

[digital kettle]

‼️

[jaunty trellis]

many

[deep token]

@jaunty trellis

[jaunty trellis]

haiii oomfie

hru

[deep token]

hiiiiiiiiii

im doing well

[jaunty trellis]

[static valley]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/

Steam

Lossless Scaling

Lossless Scaling allows you to scale windowed games to full screen using the state-of-the-art scaling algorithms, as well as use ML based proprietary scaling and frame generation.Frame generation options: LSFGScaling options: LS1 AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution NVIDIA Image Scaling Integer Scaling Nearest Neighbor xBR Anime4K Sharp Bilinear Bicu...

Price

$6.99

Recommendations

14332

[deep token]

insane

[jaunty trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015060231060983891/1326994092705579079/awesome_gif_yooo.gif

[static valley]

it has DLSS 4

[deep token]

dlss 4 is out?

[static valley]

NVIDIA proprietary tech

[digital kettle]

hai

[deep token]

my friend got an nvidia shield tablet

[digital kettle]

duck

[deep token]

the hardware is so nice

[jaunty trellis]

afaik not to the public

[static valley]

nah it doesn’t use DLSS 4 exactly, it has multi frame gen

[deep token]

oh

then it's not dlss 4

[static valley]

but the ratings say it’s pretty much dlss 4

it’s got amd super fidelity

[jaunty trellis]

amd fsr is nice imo

[static valley]

The latest feature allows you to use Lossless Scaling to generate additional frames in games that do not have such support, including emulators.

Lossless Scaling is also useful for upscaling modern games if you cannot run them at native screen resolution (GPU limited) and want to get rid of blur due to bilinear scaling of the GPU driver, as well as for upscaling older and pixel-art games which do not support modern screen resolutions or full screen mode.

For modern games it is best to use LS1 or AMD FSR. For scaling pixel-art games, use Integer Scaling or xBR. Anime4K is best suited for cartoons or anime.

[jaunty trellis]

[static valley]

this is an insane piece of software wtf

[digital kettle]

do octopus have phones

can you talk to a Octopus

octopus

[mystic salmon]

Does a Linux equivalent exist

[static valley]

no it's windows only

all the reviews are begging for a linux compatible version

😔

[keen kernel]

There's an open source tool but I don't know if it's as good as this is

that does upscaling

[mystic salmon]

I wonder if you could do something similar with gamescope

[keen kernel]

works on linux iirc

[mystic salmon]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamescope

[somber leaf]

Most gpu drivers just use nearest neighbor which confused the shit out of me for a long time.

Like if they just used bicubic that would be half of DLSS and gpus could do that real time over 2 decades ago

[slow urchin]

Cool duck

[static valley]

yeah bicubic isn't new

[mystic salmon]

Nearest neighbour is the pixely one

[somber leaf]

Yes

[keen kernel]

pancubic wen

[static valley]

oh is it?

[somber leaf]

Yes

[slow urchin]

Nearest neighbor my beloved

😍

[static valley]

terribly optimized iirc

[keen kernel]

https://github.com/Blinue/Magpie

[mystic salmon]

I haven't seen GPU drivers use that, they tend to use some kind of blur

[slow urchin]

Yeah

Gaussian or otherwise

[static valley]

using a heuristic for a driver doesn't sound the best 😭

[somber leaf]

Bilinear or bicubic.
Gaussian is stupidly expensive

[static valley]

gaussian blurs are expensive???

[slow urchin]

O yeah those

[slow urchin]

Very very

[paper gate]

https://tenor.com/view/steaming-mad-hot-sure-gif-13501600

[somber leaf]

Yes

[slow urchin]

That's why it takes so long editing gaussian blurs on older GPUs

[static valley]

oh fuck yeah holy cow

[slow urchin]

...yeah

[static valley]

run THAT on a gtx 750 😭

use up all 3 GB of vram 💀

[slow urchin]

I did it all the time on my gt 1030 2gig 😭 20 minute wait times

[static valley]

LMFAO

[somber leaf]

There are approximations of Gaussian like box blur that can get within 1% PSNR after 3 iterations but it’s basically single threaded so only useful cpu side

[static valley]

yeah okay I see why NNR is used instead of gaussian

[slow urchin]

Y'all should watch acerola

[somber leaf]

I do

But also this is my study

[static valley]

acerola?

[slow urchin]

:0

[slow urchin]

But acerola! You'll get this when you watch him

[static valley]

ohhhhh the renderer

i should watch him

[sudden sun]

apple has some algo for fast blurs similar to gaussian i think

[somber leaf]

Box blur

https://youtu.be/4Eh0y3LHTNU

[somber leaf]

Probably an approximation using box blur

[slow urchin]

Watching his stuff is basically what made me interested in VFX and shaders

[sudden sun]

i dont think its box blur

[somber leaf]

What do you think it is then?

[paper gate]

https://tenor.com/view/nepunator-cat-lost-delusion-vocaloid-background-gif-17321871787300547248

[static valley]

approximating a box blur?

wait that's

kinda

genius

[sudden sun]

idk im not an expert in blurring, but their blurs seem very accurate

[static valley]

isnt it like

aren't box blurs grainy

[somber leaf]

No?

[sudden sun]

@somber leaf have u seen clipper

[static valley]

nah the wikipedia image i'm using just has terrible image compression

ignore me

[somber leaf]

Easy to do with an approximation with box blur.

Or they’re using the separable version of Gaussian which while O(n) slow as fuck. It can be fast with hardware optimization tho

[somber leaf]

I have not

[sudden sun]

ic

fair enough

makes sense

on my intel mac layering 2 materials causes 20fps drop lmao @somber leaf

[slow urchin]

Wikipedia compression so good /s

[somber leaf]

Wikimedia. Separate project

[somber leaf]

Intel integrated moment

[static valley]

@somber leaf it's a box blur
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coreimage/cifilter/3228278-boxblurfilter

[somber leaf]

If igpus werent so shit we could already have co processors

[slow urchin]

Whar they said Wikipedia?

[static valley]

oh wait what

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coreimage/cifilter/3228331-gaussianblurfilter

no apple has a gaussian blur

[sudden sun]

fr

[static valley]

intel integrated is actually garbage 😭

[sudden sun]

apple has many CIFilters

[somber leaf]

They also have a function for Gaussian.

Yeah

[static valley]

yeah the documentation for them is huge

[sudden sun]

ok but you lot haven’t seen apple’s CAFilter apis

https://tenor.com/view/ayame-百鬼あやめ-ホロライブ-nakiri-ayame-hololive-gif-2830593631839532786

[somber leaf]

They try and make it as easy as possible to make apps

[static valley]

swift is a nice language

[somber leaf]

Can’t comment on it never used it

[static valley]

neither have I but my friend uses it religiously

[edgy ermine]

Fun fact, adding a while(1) at the end of your algorithm makes it run in O(1) time

[slow urchin]

I already have every single thing done in this art class and yet I can't go to my friends class because the vice principal is an asshole and will punish the teachers for simply allowing kids not in their class to sit and talk with other people who are already done

[static valley]

i've seen the language and it looks optimized

[slow urchin]

Swift is swift

(swift is a synonym for fast or quick)

[static valley]

oh yeah it's fast

[slow urchin]

(it's also a type of bird)

[static valley]

okay thesaurus.com

192.168.1.1

[slow urchin]

lc.g swift bird

[night blaze]

Swifts

-# Birds

The Apodidae, or swifts, form a family of highly aerial birds. They are superficially similar to swallows, but are not closely related to any passerine species. Swifts are placed in the order Apodiformes along with hummingbirds. [⁽¹⁾](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_(bird\) 'Source')

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[static valley]

doxxed

wait

was that an npr article

[slow urchin]

lc.i swift bird

[night blaze]

This Tiny Swift Bird Can Fly for 10 Months Without Landing ...

Google Images • labsCore • Page 2/19

[slow urchin]

They're cool birda

[static valley]

yeh

[slow urchin]

They're shaped like 3

[slow urchin]

Yes

Idk what npr is

But yeah

[somber leaf]

Cause it’s an llvm compiler it’s gonna be fast but how much heavy lifting have they enabled like auto vectorization in c and rust

[sudden sun]

cafilter is private

[slow urchin]

How often do y'all think about leaving everything behind to be with the one you love in a remote area where you're finally in control of your life

[static valley]

uhhhh

never

[slow urchin]

Darn

I'm not relatable

[somber leaf]

But thoes are CI not CA

[sudden sun]

ik

cafilter is special

[static valley]

wait the lossless scaling app is from 2018

damn

STILL no linux support 😭

7 years

[somber leaf]

I don’t understand your point

[sudden sun]

https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/Dev:CAFilter @somber leaf @static valley

[somber leaf]

Cause it’s hard. If you care read the Factorio Friday facts about the Linux version.

[sudden sun]

CAFilter is not part of the sdk

[somber leaf]

Gnome like always breaks things for no reason (still), other weird quirks that are just a pita

[slow urchin]

Why doesn't anyone simply just spend 20 years of their life creating an os that can do everything that both windows AND Linux can sighhhhhh

[somber leaf]

I understand that but why are you brining it up or is it just a fun fact?

[sudden sun]

fun fact

[lone orchid]

Where is the technical support?

[sudden sun]

and is technically related to cifilter

[static valley]

oh my god

[lone orchid]

.

[neon ferry]

👉 #🏥-vencord-support-🏥

(Auto-response invoked by @slow urchin)

[sudden sun]

https://github.com/kennytm/iphone-private-frameworks/blob/6ce336291a9c8231ba94ff42b2ea072c8dcd043c/QuartzCore/CAFilter.h#L61

[jolly nexus]

CAFilter.h: Line 61

extern NSString* const kCAFilterPageCurl;

[sudden sun]

this is the coolest cafilter imo

[somber leaf]

Do you want me to say? Gnome. Cause fucking gnome

[static valley]

a page curl?

[sudden sun]

its a filter like cifilter which makes it cool

[slow urchin]

What does this mean soda

[somber leaf]

Is it just curl?

[static valley]

fair enough

[slow urchin]

The gnomes keep killing the best programmers? Lol

[sudden sun]

its the page curl anim from ios 2-3 ish

CA is CoreAnimation

[mystic salmon]

Because making oses is HARD and it's easier to just improve linux

[sudden sun]

apple recently added variableBlur as a new CAFilter and everyone loves it

[mystic salmon]

The Linux kernel itself is decent for a home user so there's no need to replace it for example

[static valley]

just don't crowdstrike your OS when doing it

that would be mildly inconvenient ngl

[slow urchin]

Yeah but you gotta realize no matter what at some point it'll be like android where it's still Linux but the entire OS is refactored basically

[somber leaf]

They put in overly strict guidelines that everyone hates and part of why a lot of apps aren’t on the damn front page of flathub

They break standard so if for example you don’t supply window decorators on Wayland your window will just not have a top bar (something the Factorio devs made clear is dumb)

Just overall being a blatant waste of money and because le release cycle is the only desktop and distro has used till KDE adopted the same release cycle

[slow urchin]

With anything it will be refactored

[solemn plank]

i was slightly off

[static valley]

why can’t we just make one operating system 😔

i’m actually so done with ms copilot

[mystic salmon]

What things would a new OS accomplish that couldn't be done by improving linux

[sudden sun]

who actually uses ms copilot

[slow urchin]

Why can't it be like usb-c where the government sets a standard

😭

[static valley]

i used it once and immediately hated it

[slow urchin]

Then we could all work on the same operating system

[sudden sun]

usbc sucks

lighting >>>>

trust

[static valley]

okay unpopular opinion but usb-c is a terrible standard

[slow urchin]

Horror

[somber leaf]

Last time I heared about gnome they were breaking icon packs

[static valley]

there's like, high data transfer, high energy transfer and then there's shitty ones yadda yadda

[mystic salmon]

Different oses have different use cases, you can't make an os that fits every use case perfectly, that's why Linux distros exist

[slow urchin]

USB-c is really good besides the fact that you never know the speed of the cable nor if it's a power cable or data cable

[static valley]

yeah

[stiff urchin]

i don't think you want to compare operating systems to a protocol that has been standarized for decades 😭

[slow urchin]

Who not though, why can't you make an os that fits every use case?

[mystic salmon]

Because use cases can be vastly different and contradictory

[stiff urchin]

e.g how are you going to make apps from windows, macos and linux run perfectly on the new one

[slow urchin]

I get it's difficult but my point is with time it's bound to happen so why not start early

[somber leaf]

Found the video on ittt. Gnome continues to fuck over KDE cause le reasons.

https://youtu.be/JsUWl0zbQBg

[stiff urchin]

because it's literally impossible

[static valley]

gnome just needs to stop fucking around with their kernel

[somber leaf]

What?

[stiff urchin]

perfect compatibility with other oses won't ever exist because of their quirks

[slow urchin]

But HOW tho it doesn't make sense

[lavish schooner]

that'd be called a monopoly

[mystic salmon]

Gnome likes to set their own standards and ignore the agreed upon ones

[somber leaf]

Gnome Kernel?

[sudden sun]

@stiff urchin hiiii

[static valley]

well if it's open source

[slow urchin]

^

[mystic salmon]

They'd replace Wayland with their own thing if they could get away with it

[static valley]

my bad i'm exhausted i'm forgetting my terms

[stiff urchin]

hii

[static valley]

ignore my schizo rambling

[lavish schooner]

that already exists...you're calling for the ban of all other OSes

[sudden sun]

hru oomf

[stiff urchin]

and native ports aren't too possible either because abandoned proprietary libraries/software exists that people still use

[slow urchin]

I refuse the notion that it's "impossible" to create an os that can simply run windows executables and Linux executables and Mac IPAs

[static valley]

i'm definitely not i've barely interacted in the OS conversation

[somber leaf]

And it’s ruined flatpak and a bunch of other things but oh well at least you have a still non functional stock DE

[lavish schooner]

oh okie

[slow urchin]

Emulators exist, it's the same thing with wine it's just a speed thing

[static valley]

why are they messing around with flatpak

[stiff urchin]

good luck incorporating every windows, linux and mac quirk without breaking some random part about either

[mystic salmon]

Yeah it sucks

[static valley]

-36 iq move?????

[lavish schooner]

impossible is one thing, feasible is another

[stiff urchin]

or reimplementing every api that exists

[static valley]

main character syndrome god damn

[somber leaf]

Because the people running flathub adopted the gnome style guide for flathub icons and “information section”

[solemn plank]

said the one named "ihatepeoplefromflorida"

[stiff urchin]

if it was possible to just make an os that can run binaries from another, reactos would have been finished a while ago 😭

[somber leaf]

Meaning a lot of multiple decade old icons “have to be updated” or won’t show up in suggestions

[slow urchin]

I guess it technically is easier just to make to make a new binary but still it's possible it'd just take fucking forever that was my point

Lol

[somber leaf]

And the maintainers had the fucking audacity to ask “why aren’t yall following it” to which the responses was “your guide is stupid”

Yk cause gnome things

[static valley]

"we're not jumping off the bridge with you vro 🙏 "

actual perfect analogy for "if your friends jump off a bridge are you gonna follow them"

[slow urchin]

I don't like when people say things are impossible especially with computer programming because if you understand computers at the lowest level you can make them do whatever you want as long as you spend the time

[somber leaf]

Brodie also made a video about it I love him https://youtu.be/TOPylb8Jz7g

[sudden sun]

macos doesnt use ipas

[slow urchin]

"impossible" isn't a thing it's entirely to do with time

[stiff urchin]

the impossible part comes from just how much time and effort you'd have to put into it

[slow urchin]

Idk anything about mac

I inferred from what I know about ios

[stiff urchin]

i doubt anyone would want to spend idk, 10-20 years solely working on making some new os compatible with every other os

and it'd still have to be maintained

[sudden sun]

yea ipas are iphone packages applications

or something

[rapid aurora]

halo

[static valley]

also every game developer would have to update their code to work on said OS

like

[slow urchin]

But that's. Literally what i said, i said why doesn't someone or a team just spend 20 years on something similar because people have done many things like that in the past and just released it one day like it was nothing

[static valley]

every single application dev would have a terrible time

[somber leaf]

This is the plethora of reasons why a unified desktop is bad.

Native ports of games from windows to Linux is bad

[slow urchin]

The whole point is that it can run all the other binaries so no they wouldn't

[somber leaf]

Use wine and enjoy it

[stiff urchin]

you'd also have to pay these people

[slow urchin]

Meh I'll use Linux when it's properly mainstream

[static valley]

yeah well that's not exactly a walk in the park

[slow urchin]

I'm aware i never said it was

[static valley]

no i'm going to pull a digteam and not pay my devs actually

[stiff urchin]

😭

[slow urchin]

You guys act like I'm saying it'd be easy

😭

[static valley]

it would be

watch me

[slow urchin]

I just said it's possible and would be cool

[static valley]

i'm gonna make an OS in rust tomorrow (i will end my life)

[stiff urchin]

sorry

[slow urchin]

The horrors

[static valley]

rust based operating system i'm sobbing

[paper gate]

@stiff urchin hiii

[slow urchin]

Worms in my brain telling me to learn every programming language because vennie vencord refuses to unify to say which is best for regular computer programming:
🪱: just kys!

[static valley]

golang

i kid

[slow urchin]

I've heard swift, go, java if you hate yourself, never js or python unless ur webdev, rust, c#, c, c++, 😭

[static valley]

java is actually aids

[paper gate]

java okay

[spark crescent]

I Hate Myself

[static valley]

sociopath?

[paper gate]

nop

[static valley]

yop

[slow urchin]

Java is awesome because of jvm but apparently it's aids to learn and write and read

[static valley]

yeah it is

[somber leaf]

Don’t you use that one language by jet brains that’s “fixes” Java?

[static valley]

javascript

[slow urchin]

Specify who you're talking to

[somber leaf]

It is aids

[paper gate]

Kotlin good

[somber leaf]

Yep

[sudden sun]

would be a bad use of resources

[clever elm]

why is vlc so bad

[somber leaf]

Yep

[static valley]

what

[static valley]

nah someone crucify this person

[slow urchin]

I mean if everyone used the same os then compatibility issues would be reduced to hardware

:p

[somber leaf]

Cause they decided to do their own shit while MPV is almost entirely ffmpeg/libplacebo

[stark herald]

@paper gate

[clever elm]

no every time i do anything it freezes and hangs and i have to manually kill it

[paper gate]

@stark herald

[static valley]

oh yeah no it's got dogshit optimization

lmfao

[stark herald]

gtg

[paper gate]

@clever elm you

[clever elm]

@paper gate you were sent to kill me

[paper gate]

yes

[slow urchin]

But I guess if ur making an OS anyways, making a really good one instead that everyone adopts is actually probably better

[static valley]

but vlc is still goated

[sudden sun]

too late the market is shattered

[slow urchin]

@sudden sun

[static valley]

TemuOS

when

[clever elm]

it works if you only have to open one video and do nothing with it

[static valley]

ShiggyOS

[slow urchin]

OS that only runs valorant (it's just fres's PC)

[sudden sun]

theres no real chance to pull anyone together

[somber leaf]

The people behind it at videoland are based but VLC itself sucks real bad

[slow urchin]

Everyone u mean?

[static valley]

me when I use adobe premiere pro to watch a 10 second shitpost

200 iq move ngl

[sudden sun]

writing your own kernel and userspace is difficult and hard to do properly let alone securely if you’re not well informed

[paper gate]

I love mpv

[sudden sun]

using existing software is better

[paper gate]

mpv much better for minimal stuff

[slow urchin]

Well i was talking about the 20 years thing, it'd be better to just write a better operating system than to write one that's a combination of all the others

[sudden sun]

i love quicktime 7 for windows unactivated

[slow urchin]

Wait. Have i. Have i just been recreating the idea of dual booting this whole time

Am i stupid?

[paper gate]

scary

[mystic salmon]

Sorta

[slow urchin]

[static valley]

bro the phone released 4 months ago how is yours already damaged

[mystic salmon]

Exactly

[slow urchin]

Screen protector that's not the phone I'm pretty sure

[mystic salmon]

There's a reason so many people work on the Linux kernel instead of rolling their own

[mystic salmon]

hobby os development is a thing

[sudden sun]

@slow urchin

[sudden sun]

this

[mystic salmon]

But basically noone uses those for serious work

[static valley]

look at the destroyed corner

[mystic salmon]

With the exception of maybe Haiku

[static valley]

i don't have a screen protector and I have a flimsy ahh case and I still protect it better than her

[paper gate]

I hope someday to have a contribution to the kernel

[slow urchin]

Sobbing

[static valley]

sheep smh

become independent

[slow urchin]

It's shrimple: write a bot to use your account to track spelling mistakes and boom

Pull request a fix

🔥

[mystic salmon]

https://redox-os.org/ is pretty interesting, it's a microkernel which means the actual kernel is tiny and all the drivers run in userspace

[jaunty trellis]

@paper gate nerd

[slow urchin]

Is it bad that i like conversing here even though most of the time I have to infer what people are talking about because so many fandoms are here i don't understand many of the niche words

[somber leaf]

you’re so based

[paper gate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-grab-grab-cat-ocelot-wild-animal-gif-4936036749962752604

[paper gate]

nuh uh

[jaunty trellis]

yuh uh

[mystic salmon]

Off topic channels be like that

[slow urchin]

Off topic and yet autistic m word chains are against moderation

😔

Why do i have a favorited gif of a steaming horse

https://tenor.com/view/steaming-mad-hot-sure-gif-13501600

[jaunty trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1024286218801926184/1327406133534789754/caption.gif

@paper gate watch arcane

[slow urchin]

Miku Fortnite tomorrow

[jaunty trellis]

horror

[slow urchin]

Her skin got leaked and it's a little ugly but it's okay

[hollow surge]

i dreamed that the people from yugi oh were trying to kill me

mind you i've never watched yugi oh

[jaunty trellis]

soon 500 tabs

@paper gate you love

[hollow surge]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/-dL-7B0XpFAqR6L0wNiiUHRLhvFCButZNX_x7DKk82c/https/cdn.jacher.io/e1c3c23e151f6c98.gif?width=145&height=300

[boreal torrent]

❓

[jaunty trellis]

also why do you use nix-* commands just use the flake versions smh

[boreal torrent]

ඞඞඞඞඞ

[boreal torrent]

wdym

[jaunty trellis]

nix-* is the non flake way

if you use flakes you can just do nix shell without -

[boreal torrent]

ooh

thx

[jaunty trellis]

and you can use flake inputs for that

[cobalt echo]

@paper gate

[jaunty trellis]

guh I've been listening to astroneer ost for like 4 days straight

[paper gate]

[keen junco]

@paper gate you've been summoned

[boreal torrent]

i love this

[paper gate]

@keen junco hello

[keen junco]

Hello.

[vapid yarrow]

literally me

[paper gate]

@jaunty trellis is silly

[jaunty trellis]

yop

[boreal torrent]

🔝

my lil bro can't stop listening to youtube shorts brainrot music

[jaunty trellis]

horror

[cobalt echo]

[keen junco]

Too silly

[modest forum]

very very cheap
1 pound fish

[slow urchin]

Does anyone here like Calne Ca Miku

[jaunty trellis]

asahi lina theme so good

[boreal torrent]

send screenshot

[drifting carbon]

hi

[jaunty trellis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgJL26Mn8kw

[boreal torrent]

oo cool

it sounds like nintendo music lol

LMAO

[jaunty trellis]

@paper gate you will steal m series macs so I can put asahi on them :3

[paper gate]

how

[jaunty trellis]

idek

[boreal torrent]

m series macs are so good once u put asahi linux or openbsd on it

[jaunty trellis]

I really hope the new amd laptops are gonna be relatively cheap so I can get one when they drop

[drifting carbon]

that chair must be like

impossible to sit on

[jaunty trellis]

also I accidentally just reset zoom and holy shit that looks ass

everything looks stretched

ewww

[drifting carbon]

yeah

i think i miss intel back when they were basically one of the best cpus out there

now they're just dying like amd in 2010-2017

[jaunty trellis]

intel be cooked

and I really hope they get up cuz we desperately need competition

monopoly in anything in tech is gonna end up in horrors

[sudden sun]

@jaunty trellis @boreal torrent hiiii

[jaunty trellis]

haiiii

[boreal torrent]

hiiii oomf

[drifting carbon]

yeah

[sudden sun]

[drifting carbon]

oh wait i just realized this

tiktoks gonna get banned in a couple days

[slow urchin]

https://www.deviantart.com/cylops2000/art/MMD-Hatsune-Miku-V1-DOWNLOAD-766696068

Miku v1 looks so cooked

[slow urchin]

Jokes on you I'm an android and PC main

So it doesn't matter

🔥

[drifting carbon]

it wont matter if your not in the us

[slow urchin]

That too but i am

So

[somber leaf]

They’re not.
Intel has massive coffins of cash and investment money.
They’ve recently designed the whole power delivery system for their next generation gpus and CPUs greatly decreasing interference and power demands and are working closely with fabs rn for new research.
They’re working on tiles and silicon substrates. They have a bright future

[slow urchin]

Lol

[drifting carbon]

oh

[slow urchin]

There's absolutely zero way the ban is actually upheld tho

[jaunty trellis]

I stand corrected intel is not cooked

[somber leaf]

Remember when Intel CPUs couldn’t do floating point math? Worse has happened

[jaunty trellis]

floats are hard

[drifting carbon]

hmm

[paper gate]

true

[slow urchin]

The government just wants TikTok to be American owned likely to spread their own political beliefs through the app and for yet another "AMERICA OWNS ALL!!!!!!" thing

It's a really stupid ban that affect so many other things we use

There's no way it's upheld

[somber leaf]

No one cares about a social media app like tiktok

[drifting carbon]

jeez

intel really fell off..

[jaunty trellis]

tiktok should be banned cuz it causes brain rot not cuz of whatever security risk or wtv

[drifting carbon]

yeah

tiktok sucks

[slow urchin]

Yeah but the basis of the ban affects a shit ton of other things

[slow urchin]

However: my FYP is tuned in for cat, raccoon, and seal videos

[somber leaf]

I can’t think of anything else major it would affect rn

I don’t like it either for other reasons tho

[slow urchin]

Yeah but that doesn't mean it should be banned in a whole country

:/

[boreal torrent]

^^

[somber leaf]

I agree

[slow urchin]

No matter if you like it or not, the TikTok ban, if passed, basically marks a day that the government shows they have the full ability to censor user media any time they want for any reason by simply saying "CHINA CHINA CHINA!!!! COMMIE BASTARDS!"

Even tho the creator is LITERALLY FUCKING SINGAPOREAN 😭

[somber leaf]

https://youtu.be/fc_xzN6UErI

[slow urchin]

"are you working with the CCP"
"No senator I'm Singaporean"
"Are you a part of the CCP"
"No senator I'm part of Singapore"
"Have you ever been related to the CCP"
"No senator I'm from Singapore"

Love government

Bright turquoise hurts my eyes more than white does i think

😭

[jaunty trellis]

the creator could be whatever nationality that doesn't really matter they only really care that the parent company is chinese

[slow urchin]

Yeah

I was just quoting the court videos

[somber leaf]

Whoever gets to affordable silicon substrates first be it Intel or AMD I think is gonna decide who’s gonna ride the next few years well or not

[edgy ermine]

[slow urchin]

I'm not on the oomf list sigh

[jaunty trellis]

[paper gate]

same

crying

[edgy ermine]

add your pfp as an emoji

[covert patio]

Hiiiii

[jaunty trellis]

[paper gate]

I think there's one

[paper gate]

hiii

[slow urchin]

You can't add emojis anymore at least for me

[edgy ermine]

cant find it

[boreal torrent]

why is there a fres emoji

😭

[slow urchin]

Unless i did something I'm unaware of to get my perms killed

[boreal torrent]

🇪🇸

[paper gate]

hi axy

[boreal torrent]

hi zoot

[boreal torrent]

i need textreplace

to replace !bc with blobcatcozy...

[paper gate]

do

[boreal torrent]

doing rn

[slow urchin]

No emogi @edgy ermine

[boreal torrent]

:blobcatcozy:

[main wyvern]

[boreal torrent]

guhhh

[main wyvern]

blobCatCozy

[boreal torrent]

!blobcatcozy

[jaunty trellis]

[paper gate]

@main wyvern hiiii

[edgy ermine]

i forgot i enabled audit log

[boreal torrent]

works now

[main wyvern]

@paper gate You are being monitored.

[boreal torrent]

vcotd

[neon ferry]

The cozy of the day is bright turquoise! (#08e8de)

[boreal torrent]

ugly

[jaunty trellis]

@paper gate have you seen avandos concept thingy

[paper gate]

nop

[boreal torrent]

what's the difference between pasta and noodles

[drifting carbon]

@paper gate you not monitored dont trust these people dont worry

[main wyvern]

@paper gate You are being monitored.

[slow urchin]

This color looks like how toothpaste tastes

[boreal torrent]

wdym tastes..

[keen kernel]

Hi chat
Dash character Pound character Space character This user has been assigned by the FBI to monitor @paper gate

[edgy ermine]

neko sanc

[covert patio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vocaloid/s/GinwcCkBt1 mesmerizer in fortnite we are so cooked

[main wyvern]

i eat toothpaste

[paper gate]

pasta short noodles long

[slow urchin]

Toothpaste goes in your mouth last time i checked,,,

[jaunty trellis]

go look

[boreal torrent]

that's not the point

it looks like how it tastes

❓

[slow urchin]

Yws

Yes

[boreal torrent]

WDYM

[slow urchin]

Like how McDonald's sprite tastes like how hotel air conditioning feels

[keen kernel]

mint looks minty blue

Blue white is mint right

[keen kernel]

Ok no now ur insane

Sorry

[drifting carbon]

who would eat toothpaste..

[main wyvern]

me

[slow urchin]

Have you not heard that on the Internet

[keen kernel]

Nope

[hollow surge]

buy wireful device
look inside
wires o' plenty

[keen kernel]

I Love That Minecraft Mod

I want that to be a mod tho and it just adds a fuckton of tech stuff

or a modpack

With the cat as the icon

[slow urchin]

Every tech mod is just create and immersive engineering cuz no one makes good tech mods anymore

:(

[boreal torrent]

ur insane

[drifting carbon]

minecraft movie fucking sucks

[keen kernel]

Its out?

[boreal torrent]

also i can't relate at all lol

[drifting carbon]

looks like its been applied with "realistic" mods

[drifting carbon]

not yet i think

[keen kernel]

I can't believe it's 2077 already

[stark herald]

hawk

[keen kernel]

t

[drifting carbon]

and gta 6 is still delayed by another year!!

[slow urchin]

Lc.g McDonald's sprite tastes like how hotel air conditioning feels

[night blaze]

“Hotel air conditioners feel how McDonald's Sprite tastes.” : r ...

Sep 22, 2019 ... People dont know or maybe dont care but there is a filter/screen at the bottom where the soda comes out. in the machines with a row of soda ...

Google Search • labsCore • Page 1/30

[slow urchin]

YES

IT'S REAL

FUCK YOU NONBELIEVERS

[stark herald]

@paper gate :froth:

how

[boreal torrent]

man that doesn't make sense at all

[slow urchin]

It just does man

Obtain synesthesia

You'll understand

[keen kernel]

No sorry I think you are all ill

[boreal torrent]

1. how do hotel air conditioners feel like

2. how does mcdonalds sprite even taste

[keen kernel]

McDonald's sprite tastes bubbly

ok that's not really a taste but

I tried

[boreal torrent]

i only drank sprite twice in my entire life i think

i'm not a big soda fan

[keen kernel]

HOW

[keen kernel]

Oh

[stark herald]

they taste like metal last time i tried

[boreal torrent]

YEAH

IT'S LIKE METAL MAN

[stark herald]

no not the sprite sorry

[paper gate]

@stark herald eats metal

[boreal torrent]

sprite does indeed taste like metal to me

it's very weird

[keen kernel]

sprite tastes like sprite

[boreal torrent]

it tastes like metallic lemon

[paper gate]

@stark herald

[stark herald]

I meant the ac

[paper gate]

@stark herald

[keen kernel]

chat aliucord isn't showing me @stark herald bio for some reason can someone screenshot it for me

[stark herald]

@paper gate I put things on your cart when you go shopping and look away

[paper gate]

nop

@stark herald i put bugs in your bed

[stark herald]

so that was you

[paper gate]

@stark herald will only be able to say wagoo wagoo

[fresh ledge]

When a plant is sadwhat do other plants do? Photosympathize

@paper gate laugh

[boreal torrent]

moodler ain't in the correct mood

[fresh ledge]

Zt is so fat he takes up 3 reactions

[fresh ledge]

shiggy

[keen kernel]

Fake nitro try not to EXPLODE EXPLODE YOU WILL EXPLODE MY BRAIN WAVES WILL MAKE YOU BLENDER EXPLODE

@stark herald TO THE WOODS

[stark herald]

35 of the regulars are secretly alts with chatgpt

[keen kernel]

ChatGPT by OpenAI so good

I Love OpenAI

Purchasing upgraded ChatGPT plan rn 🔥🔥

[rough dome]

cry about it B)

[safe moat]

ChatGPT plus.

[boreal torrent]

falling asleep in class is the best thing ever

[keen kernel]

When blobcatchatgpt and geminihusk emojis (i do not endorse hating on Gemini as a large language model powered by OpenAI)

[paper gate]

yop

[hollow surge]

i once fell in sleep so hard mid exam i drooled all over my laptop keyboard

[safe moat]

Please explain open source to a newbie

[fresh ledge]

@stark herald this time you and me are so fat we take up 3 reactions

[paper gate]

@harsh minnow

@stark herald

[open pasture]

gem

[stark herald]

@paper gate

[boreal torrent]

I never had any issues sleeping in class

[glass shell]

hi vencord

[boreal torrent]

School is just very easy

[glass shell]

miku fortnite

[hollow surge]

i mean i passed

but i drooled SO HARD all over the keyboard bro it was insane

[paper gate]

fres will explode

[safe moat]

OOOOF

[boreal torrent]

i slept in school once

[safe moat]

Playing Portal in 1920x600

[boreal torrent]

i drooled all over my arts notebook

[hollow surge]

i only sleep in school

[keen kernel]

Open Source, or OS, is an Operating System for Windows made by Meta, formerly known as Facebook. Facebook owns the platform Telegram which is used to distribute the popular Linux distribution, causing many concerns by US politicians regarding their safety being installed on government mobile devices.

[paper gate]

fres drools

[hollow surge]

school desk be COMFY bro

[stark herald]

I slept in school every day for 4 months

[boreal torrent]

it's NOT

[paper gate]

@stark herald youre drooling rn

[hollow surge]

it is???

it is so comfortable

[boreal torrent]

it's pure wood bro wtf

[hollow surge]

it feels like a pillow

[boreal torrent]

sometimes metal

[keen kernel]

Depends on the desk

[boreal torrent]

how's it comfy

[keen kernel]

some desks are smoothed

those are the nice ones

[hollow surge]

idk you put your arm on it

and then you rest your head on your arm

and you sleep SO HARD

[boreal torrent]

i hate our school desks

it's made for short people

[hollow surge]

@glass shell would like

[boreal torrent]

it's literally written it will feel uncomfier if ur taller than 175cm

[safe moat]

Mine are like different alot tbh. Some are small as fuck while others aren’t

[boreal torrent]

guh?

I had to do an exam once

I was so mad holy shit

[keen kernel]

I had to go to school once

It was insane

[boreal torrent]

they only had

[keen kernel]

Never again

[boreal torrent]

one-hand desks

ALL OF THEM

WERE RIGHT-HANDED DESKS

[keen kernel]

HUSK

[boreal torrent]

i struggled with that shit

[safe moat]

[boreal torrent]

this is pure evil

[hollow surge]

◼️
🟨🟨
🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟨🟨

[boreal torrent]

HUSK AIRPLANE

[hollow surge]

◼️🟨🟨
🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟨🟨🟨🟨
◼️ 🟨🟨

[keen kernel]

Now turn it into a right handed desk

[safe moat]

Those are exactly how most desks in my school look like

[still marlin]

@shadow owl

[hollow surge]

🟨🟨 🟨🟨 🟨🟨
🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨 🟨🟨 🟨🟨
🟨🟨 🟨🟨.

[boreal torrent]

nvm it's not an airplane it's a dick

[safe moat]

DIIIICK

[keen kernel]

Please do not draw 2 towers

[hollow surge]

too late

[stark herald]

omg fr

[safe moat]

[hollow surge]

bro ew

[safe moat]

Broken tv.

[glass shell]

die

[hollow surge]

[main wyvern]

California

[glass shell]

guh

[keen junco]

Simply grow taller

[sudden sun]

https://x.com/lyn49556/status/1878770644521013529?s=46 @cobalt echo

lyn (@lyn49556) on X

Can I clear MoC now?

#HonkaiStarRail

Twitter · Jan 13, 2025, 11:46 AM

[safe moat]

why is there a goku.

[edgy ermine]

iirc rook is 5 points of material and queen is 10 points of material so yes

england lost queen and america lost two towers

[boreal torrent]

2021 was four years ago

holy crap

[edgy ermine]

yea...

[main wyvern]

2020 was 6 years ago....

[safe moat]

Frr…..

[boreal torrent]

headass

it was 8 years ago

[safe moat]

[keen junco]

I wonder who'd win: Goku or zoot

[main wyvern]

goku

[safe moat]

what is this emote.

[keen junco]

I don't think so

[fresh ledge]

Me when I wake up

[edgy ermine]

marvin would win

[keen junco]

Goku may be strong but zoot is very unpredictable

[edgy ermine]

and marvin is the least predictable of them all

[keen junco]

He may seem somewhat harmless but he could turn things around

[keen junco]

I'm very predictable

[edgy ermine]

false

[jaunty trellis]

zoot would win by throwing minker at goku and goku would get allergic reaction from minker and instantly wins the fight

[keen junco]

True

[jaunty trellis]

when in doubt, throw a minky at the problem

[keen junco]

I'll throw a minky at you

[safe moat]

Player was shot by Skeleton

[kind summit]

HuskPortal

[harsh minnow]

https://fixvx.com/IrishPatri0t/status/1878748899663630475

[glass shell]

im cold and hot at the same time THIS SUCKS

[slow urchin]

Everyone here is so short

Guh

[harsh minnow]

hiii cappi

[dusk bone]

How would they get anything done

[safe moat]

Anyways, what’s going on

[harsh minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/mita-miside-cappie-cool-mita-sunflower-gif-15992507359702628934

[slow urchin]

PvZ used to be peak

Back when pvz2 was new

[cobalt echo]

Mood

[hollow surge]

i can't with this image

who the fuck wrote this and thought "yeah that's pretty normal"

are you deadass

[jaunty trellis]

fuck did I just read

[keen junco]

Something that shouldn't be in Vencord general chat

[jaunty stag]

so true

[safe moat]

the fuck

[jaunty trellis]

mods, blow up this user

[jaunty stag]

post chomik instead or something normal

[jaunty trellis]