🧊-off-topic-iceman-only

[stark herald]

i use windows

you all suck

[dense prism]

a while ago

[kind summit]

love you too

[boreal torrent]

ur so mean wtf

:/

[dense prism]

but i barely use the 3ds anymore @open pasture

[main wyvern]

https://archlinux.org/

[drifting carbon]

nixos users when they have to install a nvidia driver (xorg keeps crashing)

[boreal torrent]

https://www.freebsd.org/

[boreal torrent]

that's your fault for using nvidia

[stark herald]

I wish I could rotate my phone screen 180 degrees because the bottom part has charger on so I can't lay it plss

[open pasture]

ass

[rapid aurora]

@sudden sun idk about you but I think hutao got inspired by Childe

[lavish schooner]

https://gentoo.org

[dense prism]

did you use to be moonlumen?

[drifting carbon]

yeah i had to disable prime

[lavish schooner]

husk in 3, 2, 1...

[boreal torrent]

nvidia is like apple of the GPU world

[drifting carbon]

so my nvidia card can work

[dense prism]

oh

[drifting carbon]

on my nixos laptop

[kind summit]

yay abricton

[lavish schooner]

addiction?

[cosmic otter]

https://windows.com

[harsh minnow]

oneplus

[boreal torrent]

intel is making good GPUs now

somehow

[drifting carbon]

nixos is still pretty good tho

[lavish schooner]

https://contoso.com

[kind summit]

Abriction

[drifting carbon]

i use it as my daily os

[boreal torrent]

nixos is very good

[cosmic otter]

https://abc.xyz

[dense prism]

in order to make a video game console thats good you need to be nintendo

[boreal torrent]

nix language isn't

fuck nix language

[drifting carbon]

oneplus having this in their stock rom is insane

[harsh minnow]

listening to https://open.spotify.com/album/719bT0VMNxYNwY0LnoICkL rn

[stark herald]

If you husk this message then You support racism nixos

[drifting carbon]

what is wrong with nix..

[boreal torrent]

MALWARE

[boreal torrent]

worst FP language i've ever used

[cosmic otter]

i always knew faye was racist

[drifting carbon]

oh..

[stark herald]

why are people husking

[kind summit]

fooor the first time,~~

[dense prism]

i want to compare phones like
google pixel 9 pro xl vs samsung galaxy s24 ultra vs samsung galaxy z fold 6 vs iphone 16 pro max vs google pixel 9 fold

[harsh minnow]

thats the rosie we know and love ❤️

[drifting carbon]

ok..

[fallow drum]

is there another way to become a vencord mod?

[boreal torrent]

i should sell n word passes for $500

could be lucrative

[kind summit]

Faye is logically racist, there is a difference

[cosmic otter]

blackmail

[keen kernel]

how vencor mod free apply can i have admi

my dad work at discord

[red field]

Why is it saying that vencord is a ransomware on virustotal

[drifting carbon]

imagine if venbotto reacts with a husk everytime someone mentions nixos

[harsh minnow]

nop

[keen kernel]

pleas he wil giv u nitro

[drifting carbon]

that would be insane

[boreal torrent]

Rosie is the only Vencord member who got arrested then became a vice-president

[kind summit]

vencord is not a virus, please check #faq

[keen kernel]

my dad work at discrod will gib nitro gift generator official 2024

[stark herald]

dm @open pasture for more info

[harsh minnow]

do u like techno @kind summit

[drifting carbon]

technoblade?

[kind summit]

I dont mind

[red field]

ok

[cosmic otter]

@harsh minnow i still can't gamble with crypto using venbot pls fix

[harsh minnow]

[drifting carbon]

bruh

[boreal torrent]

it's rosies alt

[stark herald]

blockieren

[keen kernel]

chat why does my display turn off for a single frame every now and then

[fallow drum]

vee has my alt friended actually

[kind summit]

nooo why does it always super react

[red field]

@open pasture

[harsh minnow]

did u enable the always super react plugin

[kind summit]

oh well

lemme see

[keen kernel]

did u enable the racism plugin

[kind summit]

oh I did

[keen kernel]

why isnt it cutting to gunfire and then the jonkler

[kind summit]

danke! @harsh minnow

[keen kernel]

@cosmic otter

[cosmic otter]

i love my blobcatcozy life

[dense prism]

is it me or did i loose a portion of my friend list

[harsh minnow]

fuck my stupid husk frcoal life

[keen kernel]

i eated

[kind summit]

dont worry about what you play while im listening along, play the songs you want to listen to

[open pasture]

I hate Wumpus with a passion

[keen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/poland-limbo-gif-4079291845154900451

[glossy quiver]

who would willingly use nixos

it sucks

[open pasture]

is vesktop better than vencord

[dense prism]

actually nvm @harsh minnow unfriended @open pasture

[harsh minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/azumanga-daioh-tomo-takino-tomo-azumanga-poland-polish-gif-14047841104490219772

[boreal torrent]

fuck linux all my homies use Haiku

[harsh minnow]

yeah i blocked

[keen kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099116247364407337/1269788936729788521/attachment.gif

[harsh minnow]

stupid tiramisu hater

[dense prism]

and then lewisakura revoked me from their friends list

[drifting carbon]

fuck every os known to mankind throw your computer out the window

[harsh minnow]

lewisakura

[glossy quiver]

no, just nixos

[boreal torrent]

lewisakura

[harsh minnow]

this lewis akura guy is very mean

[fallow drum]

did you see that AI chat bot in chat a couple days ago vee

[somber leaf]

Chat.

[fallow drum]

kinda funny

[drifting carbon]

wtf..

[cosmic otter]

i really hate this vendingm achine guy

[somber leaf]

WHY HUSK

[main wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/ferris-rust-rustlang-crab-cute-gif-26396486

[keen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/attack-tole-tole-humble-cat-evil-nefarious-gif-3184810906682277049

[dense prism]

speaking of the random character ¥ how do i friend @harsh minnow ? or is it impossible

[drifting carbon]

i dont understand why people hate nixos..

[neon ferry]

bro is not banne

[stark herald]

zoot replacement

[drifting carbon]

like its a good distro

[keen kernel]

too complex

[glossy quiver]

no-nixos

[harsh minnow]

it's impossible

[cosmic otter]

oh i forgot

[keen kernel]

nixos is overcomplicated

[drifting carbon]

nah

[harsh minnow]

vwb therealjason

[neon ferry]

who?

[mystic salmon]

START USING MORE PIXELS

[glossy quiver]

true, just use fedora

[drifting carbon]

dont think its really complex

[cosmic otter]

vnixos

[glossy quiver]

nop

[dense prism]

how did hhls and korisu do it then

[main wyvern]

vgamble

[glossy quiver]

@harsh minnow make

[keen kernel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1084940024467951737/1210497305904676955/anim-opt.gif

[harsh minnow]

they paid me money

[kind summit]

lmaooo

[cosmic otter]

i gave vee $50 and all i got was this stupid role

[noble quest]

@harsh minnow how many friends do you have in this server?

[main wyvern]

hi

Sent from my Steam Deck

[kind summit]

haii @main wyvern

[harsh minnow]

(technically not wrong but that's not the reason lmao)

[mystic salmon]

Inescapable

[stark herald]

STOP USING VENCORD
NITRO IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FREE
Wanted to mod your Discord anyway, for a laugh? We had a tool for that: it was called "BetterDiscord"

[kind summit]

wait wrong reply

[keen kernel]

https://assets-global.website-files.com/6257adef93867e50d84d30e2/654fa4be5d8356f96db97699_WumpusDancing.gif

[raw panther]

all vee's friends are paid actors 😭

[kind summit]

haii @cosmic otter 👋

[mystic salmon]

STOP USING LETTERS

[main wyvern]

304 is insane

[noble quest]

22 blocked users

[cosmic otter]

who

[cosmic otter]

im in that list

[stark herald]

303 now

[noble quest]

i thought 50 was a lot 😭

[keen kernel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1141844429653692501/1144272815596519464/bgfjdkhbf.gif @stark herald

[boreal torrent]

do u need a plugin to see that

[dense prism]

oh so there is a 302/84482 or 0.357% chance a member in that server is friended by @harsh minnow right now?

[stark herald]

make bunny plugin to see

[harsh minnow]

do u like abriction @kind summit

[noble quest]

vp serverinfo

[neon ferry]

ServerInfo

Allows you to view info about a server

Authors

Vee, Nuckyz

[kind summit]

alright this song is actually good, im putting this in my playlist

[boreal torrent]

o

[kind summit]

yes

[noble quest]

discord had an experimentt for friends in a server

[covert patio]

wow 😭

[noble quest]

but idk what happened to it

[stark herald]

does the client just know your mutual servers with all your friends????

[harsh minnow]

guh just fetch

[noble quest]

@lost furnace how many friends do you have in this server?

[cosmic otter]

the client does store all relationships

[noble quest]

relationshipstore:

[cosmic otter]

but you do need to request guild members

[stark herald]

is there an endpoint for mutuals in guild

[harsh minnow]

no lmao

[kind summit]

id listen to this song while im on a bus that takes 5 hours to get to a ski lodeging, thats the vibe I get, or diriving to schoo

[fallow drum]

bro blocks people in their own server…..

insane

[harsh minnow]

you can bulk fetch members by ids

just fetch all friend ids

[stark herald]

oh

insane

[drifting carbon]

i should friend omar

i forgot to do that

[kind summit]

can I freind you omar

[harsh minnow]

https://github.com/Vendicated/Vencord/blob/main/src/plugins/serverInfo/GuildInfoModal.tsx#L215-L242

[jolly nexus]

GuildInfoModal.tsx: Lines 215-242

const missing = [] as string[];
const members = [] as string[];

for (const id of ids) {
    if (GuildMemberStore.isMember(guild.id, id))
        members.push(id);
    else
        missing.push(id);
}

// Used for side effects (rerender on member request success)
useStateFromStores(
    [GuildMemberStore],
    () => GuildMemberStore.getMemberIds(guild.id),
    null,
    (old, curr) => old.length === curr.length
);

useEffect(() => {
    if (!fetched[type] && missing.length) {
        fetched[type] = true;
        FluxDispatcher.dispatch({
            type: "GUILD_MEMBERS_REQUEST",
            guildIds: [guild.id],
            userIds: missing
        });
    }
}, []);

[drifting carbon]

sure

[rapid aurora]

WTF

[dense prism]

i figured it out
if i wanna use vencord i just pull out my poor excuse for a laptop out called an acer chromebook 315 with celeron n4020 and 4gb of ram and barely any storage

[rapid aurora]

I've seen more

[stark herald]

soo good

const but it's mutable

[noble quest]

hop on javascript

[glad sphinx]

discord should make it so that "new role" changes to "old role" after a bit

[fallow drum]

i think you’re an AI chat bot

[rapid aurora]

What about me

[drifting carbon]

for me if i wanna use vencord i just pull out my nixos laptop with a ryzen 5 5600h and 8gb of ram

[stark herald]

remember someone somehow accidentally sent their token here

then the token regex was automodded

[fallow drum]

make vencord detect NixOS and then delete discord account… @harsh minnow

[glossy quiver]

imagine using 50% of your storage in /nix/store

[glossy quiver]

trueeee

[kind summit]

oo I didnt know we had server insights

[mystic salmon]

vesktop nixos package....

[cosmic otter]

@fallow drum you should ping everyone with a link

[glad sphinx]

It sounds like a user on the Vencord Discord server was trying to confirm if you're an AI chatbot. If you'd like a lighthearted or helpful way to respond to them, you could say:

"You got it! I'm an AI here to help with Vencord or anything else you need."
"Correct! Got a question or need assistance with Vencord? I'm here to help."
"That's me, an AI chatbot ready to assist. What's on your mind?"

Would you like help crafting a response or addressing specific questions they might have?

[boreal torrent]

doesn't happen here

[glossy quiver]

yea but its unofficial and sucks

[drifting carbon]

not even 50% of my storage is in /nix/store..

[mystic salmon]

Nah it's fine

[drifting carbon]

did you even try out nixos before..

[harsh minnow]

ya anyone with regulars role can check insights

[rapid aurora]

Vee can literally update vencord in April and whenever someone uses a plugin they get their account deleted

[lapis lava]

cant nixers use flatpak

[boreal torrent]

we can

[rapid aurora]

Where

[glossy quiver]

i hate nix, but flatpak is even worse

[kind summit]

ima deelte that then

[drifting carbon]

yeah but its not really recommended

[fallow drum]

i willl

[harsh minnow]

why

[formal falcon]

Haram

[lapis lava]

just use that

[harsh minnow]

u dont have to

[boreal torrent]

how so

[lapis lava]

nix yapper moment

[glossy quiver]

i dont like it

[kind summit]

oh I thought I wasnt supposed to mb

[boreal torrent]

for what reason

[drifting carbon]

wdym nix yapper

[harsh minnow]

top.gg loves linking this server

[glossy quiver]

always been a pain in the ass when i use

just really annoying

[lapis lava]

i put benbot on top gg

[glossy quiver]

you gain nothting

[mystic salmon]

Yeah you can use flatpaks but it's not very nixy

[lapis lava]

how

[harsh minnow]

[lapis lava]

works on my machine

[kind summit]

oh I thought it just wasnt allowed

[boreal torrent]

no no not u

[stark herald]

this was so funny

[lapis lava]

isolation so that if by chance userplugininstaller gets abused on my machine i don’t get bombed

[cosmic otter]

there are people here that actually use yahoo search

[boreal torrent]

i was talking to the @glossy quiver

[formal falcon]

Three bazillions versions of mesa packages

[kind summit]

oo

[cosmic otter]

we need to find them

[lapis lava]

(i give full system access to vesktop)

[harsh minnow]

24% mobile only

lmaooo

insane

[drifting carbon]

this chats gonna turn into a war..

[boreal torrent]

reproducibility is based

[glossy quiver]

wonder what it looks like in bunny/aliu/vendetta

[mystic salmon]

Why the Nvidia link

[keen junco]

referrer are just weird

[boreal torrent]

it won't matter if u have modern hardware

in fact

[drifting carbon]

no idea

[boreal torrent]

my pc only got 120GB of storage

and I do it just fine

with Nix

[keen junco]

opening the link in an already open tab will make it count as a referrer

[formal falcon]

Surely but having to download the same thing over and over gets annoying fast

[keen junco]

like copying the link into a tab that's on a certain page

[kind summit]

49% pc is crazy 😭

[boreal torrent]

it doesn't because it does it automatically

[mystic salmon]

You don't have to constantly download it it gets cached

[glossy quiver]

[boreal torrent]

^^

[cosmic otter]

vendetta

[boreal torrent]

and i got fast internet anyway

[mystic salmon]

You should be clearing your nix cache occasionally but otherwise

[dense prism]

the power of life

[formal falcon]

Good on you. I'm stuck on 4G and i have data caps

[lapis lava]

or use normal system that doesn’t store hundreds of packages

[boreal torrent]

...just like you should be cleaning your package manager cache on any distro

[lapis lava]

[somber leaf]

This is where your vennie bucks are going wake up sheeple

[mystic salmon]

Also nix cache cleaning only removes the packages you aren't using, stuff from nix shells and old packages

[glossy quiver]

yopppp

[boreal torrent]

every distro

caches packages

[lapis lava]

i never cleared my dnf cache since 1972

[mystic salmon]

I have nix set to clear cache every week

[boreal torrent]

oh but I heck did

[green kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-johnny-silverhand-keanu-reeves-cyberpunk2077-shades-off-gif-26950453

Wake the fuck up samurai..

We have a city to burn

[glossy quiver]

i love having to run a command to free 7gb

[mystic salmon]

You can set it to happen automatically

[stark herald]

You don't need to clear any package manager cache nonsense on windows

[glossy quiver]

true

windows best

[harsh minnow]

8%

[dense prism]

i wish more people talked about minecraft dungeons

[green kernel]

@somber leaf did you guys have fun at NY

[glossy quiver]

@harsh minnow why husk

[harsh minnow]

Performing garbage collection on the nix store
Nix has been uninstalled

[glossy quiver]

based

[spiral zodiac]

I love nixos

It's so silly

[glossy quiver]

os

[drifting carbon]

i never clear my nix cache but i think i should because i have a seperate /home partition and my root is 50gb

[humble trench]

husk os

blobcatcozy os

[kind summit]

minkyos

vminky

[spiral zodiac]

Just set automatic store optimization and gc and this is a non-issue

[boreal torrent]

NixOS and Void are my go-to Linux operating systems

[drifting carbon]

what do you guys think is the best distro

[noble quest]

[kind summit]

oh my goood kiiitttyyyy

[boreal torrent]

If I wasn't using Linux I'd just be using BSDs anyway

[noble quest]

[humble trench]

yall switched reactiob

[mystic salmon]

https://github.com/KSPAtlas/nix-config/blob/master/nixos%2Fnix.nix#L10-L14

[jolly nexus]

nixos/nix.nix: Lines 10-14

nix.gc = {
  persistent = true;
  dates = "weekly";
  automatic = true;
};

[drifting carbon]

but you said you hated the nix language..

[humble trench]

https://github.com/KSPAtlas/nix-config/blob/master/nixos%2Fnix.nix#L10-L14

[jolly nexus]

nixos/nix.nix: Lines 10-14

nix.gc = {
  persistent = true;
  dates = "weekly";
  automatic = true;
};

[humble trench]

cool

[harsh minnow]

gonna automod .nix

[noble quest]

whats nu

[glossy quiver]

please do

[boreal torrent]

yeah

[mystic salmon]

nushell, it's a shell script language

[boreal torrent]

NixOS is good

[drifting carbon]

why do you hate nix so much

[boreal torrent]

Nix language sucks

[noble quest]

yop

[drifting carbon]

oh

[mystic salmon]

It shows up because I have my nushell config files in there

[humble trench]

:Moyai:

emoji fail

[noble quest]

but nixos is worth nixlang

[boreal torrent]

NixOS would be way better if it had a saner language

[mystic salmon]

I should really clean them up though

[humble trench]

sorry chat

[boreal torrent]

yop

[mystic salmon]

Yeah

[kind summit]

@harsh minnow do you have a playlist of songs, most of what ive listend to for the past, idk 2 or 3 hours have been pretty chill

[winter girder]

What should I name it

[mystic salmon]

tbh though I don't mind functional programming

[harsh minnow]

nope

[mystic salmon]

I like it

[harsh minnow]

i only listen to albums

just check spotify history and create ur own playlist

[noble quest]

cant be worse than mine

[spiral zodiac]

I personally think it is great for what it is used for, but sucks only because debugging it is impossible

[dense prism]

@harsh minnow can you automod all link shorteners if you know how to import a csv to discord like you can on discourse forums

[spiral zodiac]

The design itself is fine

The errors and lack of language server, less so

[kind summit]

spotify had history

[mystic salmon]

There is a nix language server though

[mystic salmon]

I use it

[spiral zodiac]

Yes and it sucks

[mystic salmon]

It works fine

[spiral zodiac]

No types

[harsh minnow]

yes

[spiral zodiac]

It only picks up package attrs like half the time

[harsh minnow]

press on the Queue button then switch to recently played

on mobile it a dedicated button

[kind summit]

oh thanky you

[noble quest]

ive been using it for a week or too now, and while it still has a long way to go, i think its neat for being relatively new

[mystic salmon]

Fair

[mystic salmon]

Yeah

any lsp is better than nothing

[stark herald]

hiiiiiiiiiiii

[lapis lava]

best playlist

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1FdJktgvZ5hNMj?

[spiral zodiac]

My #1 issue getting started with nix was wrong values passed to the wrong functions, which almost certainly was 50% due to the language server telling me nothing about how functions were supposed to work

[lapis lava]

@stark herald

[stark herald]

nop

[lapis lava]

how

[stark herald]

no

guhh

I feel so bad

[mystic salmon]

Because the way nixlang works makes that hard, while Haskell and stuff has function signatures nix just has basic lambda functions

[noble quest]

tbh ive had no issue with nix without a lsp. only started using one recently

[noble quest]

you dont really need one

[mystic salmon]

Yeah

[spiral zodiac]

You don't, but it makes debugging (the worst part of nix) so much easier

[boreal torrent]

^^^

[drifting carbon]

i think i dont really have issues with nixos except nvidia

[lapis lava]

Fun Fact: You Can Achieve The Thing Where Your System Is Stored On A Git Repo Simply By Writing A Shell Script To Configure Everything 🚀

[main wyvern]

i LOVE nix os!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[drifting carbon]

it was hell on earth

[boreal torrent]

I had to debug way less when I got a LSP

[main wyvern]

jk i use arch

btw

[boreal torrent]

i dare you doing the same thing for servers

[noble quest]

dont really think so

like you said, it doesnt have much in the form of types

[stark herald]

I should make a gc with all my best friends

[spiral zodiac]

And if I need to learn an entirely new functional language just to use my OS, then it better be possible to debug

[noble quest]

and while nix errors suck ass

[stark herald]

though none is on this server

[harsh minnow]

i should gc (garbage collect) my friends

[noble quest]

syntax errors are easy to debug

[mystic salmon]

That sounds like it'd break

[somber leaf]

We are in NYrn

[dense prism]

how to

[mystic salmon]

True tbh

[stark herald]

that's so mean

[sour yew]

what are we the vendors of

[drifting carbon]

oh wait i didnt realize i have 60 friends

[main wyvern]

how to

[drifting carbon]

cool

[lapis lava]

servers are literally

• install docker
• install docker compose
• git clone gh.nin0.dev/selfhosting
• cd stacks/service
• docker compose up -d

[noble quest]

shittty discord client mods

[sour yew]

true

[boreal torrent]

i dont use docker

[noble quest]

GUHHH

[boreal torrent]

freebsd jails my beloved

[stark herald]

@lapis lava make Vencord userplugin installer UI on Rust

[lapis lava]

howww

insane

[noble quest]

WHY DO MY KEYS KEEP DOUBLE PRESSING

[boreal torrent]

freebsd has something better

and securer

than docker

[lapis lava]

im pressing them

[sour yew]

do we offer enterprise support

[noble quest]

im sending you to jail

[winter girder]

@sour yew dolfiesss

[sour yew]

hi

[noble quest]

yes, for userplugins

[spiral zodiac]

It doesn't have strict typing yes but functions do expect arguments to look a certain way, and I've found often the only way to figure out what that "certain way" is, is to read the original source code

[stark herald]

@sour yew

[winter girder]

How's alien jail

[mystic salmon]

There's a reason people are moving from doing this/using ansible to nix

[lapis lava]

dolfers lives in area 51

[stark herald]

dolfies api

[lapis lava]

whats the reason

[boreal torrent]

^

[boreal torrent]

by the way

[sour yew]

good, pls support my userplugin that adds intents to the gateway

[noble quest]

i learned most of nix by using githubs global search

[boreal torrent]

nix isn't only good for desktops

[sour yew]

nix is so bad for desktops

[boreal torrent]

nix is very good for development environments too so you can avoid that "it works on my machine" shit

[noble quest]

@sour yew give back my reactions
why did you steal

[drifting carbon]

the programming language sucks but nixos is pretty good

[sour yew]

cuz you abused your husks

[mystic salmon]

It's more reproducible, a script can break for any number of reasons while a nix flake with a lock file will generally work unless you change something

[rare trout]

@nocturne bough why are you like this

[stark herald]

GET /dolfies HTTP/1.1

[nocturne bough]

ı LOVE

[sour yew]

nixos is terrible outside of niche usecases like mass reproducible server/workstation builds

[glad sphinx]

STILL GOT MY BLOBCATCOZIES

[dense prism]

what is life

[spiral zodiac]

Have you tried it?

[stark herald]

thank god I don't follow manti

[mystic salmon]

Also a script does nothing about managing your system state after the initial installation

[sour yew]

yeah actually

[glad sphinx]

baby don't hurt me don't hurt me no more

[green kernel]

Alright, you guys gotta be careful

[boreal torrent]

i also like nixos for only having to deal with a single configuration format

[noble quest]

i really like it with direnv

[boreal torrent]

same

[stark herald]

nop

[boreal torrent]

direnv so good

[mystic salmon]

tbh I understand why someone wouldn't like nixos but I like it

[dense prism]

to destroy a husk in minecraft swing it with answord

[harsh minnow]

@kind summit it's time to play some weird music

[noble quest]

makes dev environments so easy

[spiral zodiac]

well then it's not for everyone, but given the community nixos has for server AND desktop, your opinion is simply an opinion

[stark herald]

what's direnv

[kind summit]

bet

[noble quest]

so good

hop on

[stark herald]

I think I'll wait until 2030 maybe by then Linux will be good

[boreal torrent]

nix-community/nix-direnv

[noble quest]

@stark herald https://direnv.net/

[boreal torrent]

you hop on a directory

[spiral zodiac]

I love it for desktop because everything is centralized and easy to change
Arch is amazing but the wiki does most of the heavy lifting, not the OS structure itself like Nix does

[boreal torrent]

it automatically sets up direnv + nix for you

[harsh minnow]

new vencord update

[boreal torrent]

it's very nice

[mystic salmon]

Honestly I should try direnv having to run nix develop to get into the dev environment for a thing is annoying

[kind summit]

I am playing voblox

[boreal torrent]

"Donate $10 to use MessageLogger"

[sour yew]

my opinion is always objectively correct >:(

[noble quest]

dir env with use flake just does that for you

[mystic salmon]

Yeah

[boreal torrent]

why husk @noble quest

[winter girder]

5 bucks per plugin and 1 dollar per theme

[stark herald]

YOP

[boreal torrent]

LLM-esque move

[noble quest]

afaik nix direnv != direnv

[mystic salmon]

Btw can you reload a flake with nix direnv

[winter girder]

And you get it all for free if your username is kodarru

[boreal torrent]

nix-direnv is a use_flake impl for direnv

[spiral zodiac]

Nix direnv can be considered a direnv plugin

[noble quest]

@mystic salmon ```nix
programs.direnv = {
enable = true;
enableZshIntegration = true;
nix-direnv = {
enable = true;
};
};

[noble quest]

yea

[winter girder]

@stark herald un

[mystic salmon]

Thanks

[noble quest]

in home-manager

[winter girder]

Malware

[dense prism]

can i have something

[mystic salmon]

I'll swap out zsh integration for nushell but other than that

[stark herald]

@harsh minnow add Experiments to Vencord where some vencord users get update rollout progressively

[boreal torrent]

i just use bash

[harsh minnow]

@kind summit what do u think about this

[boreal torrent]

[spiral zodiac]

Is nushell good

[mystic salmon]

Yes

[boreal torrent]

what's so good about nushell

[dense prism]

oh wait

[spiral zodiac]

It seems cool but I feel like I prefer traditional stuff like eza over "you can pipe things better"

[glad sphinx]

don't forget the vencord battle pass

[mystic salmon]

It deals with structured data instead of just text and the programming language is sane

[dense prism]

@harsh minnow i wish you had soda and chips

[kind summit]

sounds like terraria music 😭 lmao

[noble quest]

unless it supports p10k im sticking with zsh

[harsh minnow]

vencord season pass

[boreal torrent]

cool

[mystic salmon]

So you can do stuff like process json entirely within nushell

[kind summit]

with a hint of horror

[stark herald]

vee-bucks

[spiral zodiac]

kid named jq

[noble quest]

we had a tool for that
it was called jq

[winter girder]

Cant wait till I'm 18 so I can visit all my European friends

[open pasture]

veee😭

[boreal torrent]

cool

[stark herald]

@harsh minnow add vencoins and gambling

[boreal torrent]

huh?

[harsh minnow]

true

[boreal torrent]

very cool

[mystic salmon]

Ok that was a bad example

[harsh minnow]

kid named calling nodejs/python/awk/perl/whatever the fuck you like

[mystic salmon]

But structured data makes it easier to manipulate

[dense prism]

where to go and say

[open pasture]

just do everything with sed

[noble quest]

i pipe to perl because i fucking hate sed

[boreal torrent]

they rustified shells...

[lapis lava]

awk

aint that a hawk reference

[dense prism]

wait a minute

[boreal torrent]

nin0rot

[lapis lava]

imo these new rust blazingly fast shells with so much gimmick useless features so useless

just use bash

[dense prism]

isnt @open pasture that titanium network user

[spiral zodiac]

I want to try nushell I am just uncertain if the data processing functionality will be worth the switch from the normal method of "just install a good program"

[mystic salmon]

Yeah, also it shows an error message whenever a command returns a non zero value now

[noble quest]

horror

[spiral zodiac]

Plus the fact that everything is builtin to the shell feels odd to me

[lapis lava]

let programs do that

[open pasture]

yes

[noble quest]

they really went, what if set -e was the default

[mystic salmon]

You can silence it ofc

[lapis lava]

this also applies to fish

zsh to some extent

[somber leaf]

We are

[mystic salmon]

I use nushell features though

[spiral zodiac]

I'd much rather we standardize on a --json flag or smth than remake everything in shell builtins

[noble quest]

i like zsh as my main shell, and i use fish when im logged in as root

[mystic salmon]

Also the programming language is sane unlike bash scripts

[stark herald]

FISH

[boreal torrent]

if the scripting language is good

[spiral zodiac]

that is probably the only argument that could make me switch

[boreal torrent]

that could actually make me ditch bash

[kind summit]

@harsh minnow this sounds like bloons music now 😭

[boreal torrent]

because fish scripts are terrible

[lapis lava]

the only good shell is bash fight me

[stark herald]

guys FISH CHECK (You all have to say fish)

[noble quest]

tbh bash is sane compared batch and powershell

[keen kernel]

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

[noble quest]

i like bash

[boreal torrent]

the only good shell is posix's sh fight me

[lapis lava]

bash —posix

i think

[boreal torrent]

bash isn't posix shell

[spiral zodiac]

Anything is sane if you compare it to dirt

[mystic salmon]

Yeah those are weird

[lapis lava]

try running sh

[spiral zodiac]

Though actually power shell is pretty decent imo

It's got structured data

[lapis lava]

you’ll either go into bash posix mode or dash

[spiral zodiac]

And verbose everything

[somber leaf]

I just shell script in actual languages

[spiral zodiac]

Which is nice for scripting

[harsh minnow]

/run ```sh
echo '{"hello":"world"}' | node -e "console.log(JSON.parse(fs.readFileSync(0)).hello)"

[hollow flume]

Here is your sh(5.2.0) output @harsh minnow

world

[mystic salmon]

nushell actually has reasonable command names unlike pwsh

[noble quest]

have you ever dealt with aliases

[boreal torrent]

yeah it just has a posix-compliant mode

[dense prism]

theres a lot of code for being a general chat

[lapis lava]

so it is posix compliant…

[stark herald]

HOW

[boreal torrent]

i'm just saying it isn't the original

silly

[lapis lava]

bet your windblows computer cant do that

[keen kernel]

https://warp.dev/

[boreal torrent]

i'd rather kms than use that

[lavish schooner]

file descriptor 0 is stdin

[noble quest]

i love when my terminal makes me login

[spiral zodiac]

AIbro shitware my behated

[boreal torrent]

ur so based for this

[lapis lava]

tbh i might like ai in my terminal

[noble quest]

kitty my beloved

[mystic salmon]

Honestly true

[lapis lava]

sometimes i ask chatgpt to cook up some commands

i should make gpt command

[noble quest]

we had a tool for that

[spiral zodiac]

I'm personally a konsole enjoyer

[noble quest]

is called shithub copilot

[keen kernel]

It's actually proven to be useful for finding missing dependencies when building some bs

[lapis lava]

then i can gpt how to remove french language pack | run0 sh

[boreal torrent]

we should kill nin0.dev i think

[jaunty trellis]

nina will learn to use man or tldr

[keen kernel]

nin0.ai

[lapis lava]

at times i forget man exists

[jaunty trellis]

😭

[shrewd imp]

ip addr show or hostname -I

Message URL

#🧊-off-topic-iceman-only message

Question

write Linux command that give your ip

[lapis lava]

they should add woman

[noble quest]

@lapis lava

[boreal torrent]

never knew tldr existed

[stark herald]

@lapis lavaun

[harsh minnow]

yop tldr is good

[spiral zodiac]

tealdeer my beloved

[harsh minnow]

i use it

[mystic salmon]

True

[boreal torrent]

seems very nice

[noble quest]

i love tldr

[lapis lava]

you forgot to pipe to run0 sh

[noble quest]

so good

[mystic salmon]

For some reason the nix man pages are broken on my system and idk why

[harsh minnow]

wtf is run0

[boreal torrent]

is there any new features to it

[lapis lava]

sudo but systemd

[noble quest]

systemd sudio

[boreal torrent]

other than just being written in rust

[noble quest]

but its not a drop-in

[lapis lava]

it probably comes with fedora try it

[spiral zodiac]

It's not python

[harsh minnow]

TERROR

[spiral zodiac]

That's about it

[boreal torrent]

fair

[harsh minnow]

i use pkexec

i LOOOVe polkit

[dense prism]

help too much coding in general

[boreal torrent]

python is malware

[noble quest]

WHY DO I HAVE IT

GET IT OUT

[somber leaf]

It’s actually highly containerized and not vulnerable to some attacks sudo is.

[boreal torrent]

fuck run0

[lapis lava]

run0 shows whatever systemd makes you use

[boreal torrent]

doas my beloved

[lapis lava]

if graphical polkit agent itll show that

[mystic salmon]

It's a systemd thing

[open pasture]

pkexec.. for terminal permission elevation?

[harsh minnow]

pkexec so good

[boreal torrent]

now being serious

run0 is way saner than smth like sudo

[open pasture]

pkexec is great for gui prompting but just use sudo or doas for the terminal no?

[somber leaf]

True

[lapis lava]

yopp

[stark herald]

I thought that was a discord modal

[lapis lava]

it also makes background of output red

[boreal torrent]

why y'all husking

it's true

it's way more secure than sudo

[mystic salmon]

Does that break run0 bash

[somber leaf]

It’s almost like the systemd team makes good software

[boreal torrent]

except by systemd itself

[lapis lava]

just use run0

[noble quest]

i need to hop on gnomes askpass instead of kdes
it looks so much better

[somber leaf]

Systemd is good

[noble quest]

rare gnome W

[lapis lava]

drops u to root shell

[kind summit]

this songs sounds pretty liminal but uplifting tbh @harsh minnow

[dense prism]

help?

[harsh minnow]

you love gnome

[dense prism]

anyone there

[boreal torrent]

yeah, i was just joking

systemd is good for what it is

[noble quest]

no?

it just errors

[lapis lava]

nix skill issue

[open pasture]

with?

[stark herald]

my head gonna explode

[dense prism]

im just wondering why the chat here is crazy

[stark herald]

@lapis lava guh change name when

[lapis lava]

remember
if you have a problem on nixos the problem probably is nixos

[stark herald]

who's saar

[near ravine]

whos puh

[dense prism]

hi @near ravine

[boreal torrent]

The only part I dislike about systemd

is how massive it is

[stark herald]

puh is puh

[lapis lava]

eh its good so who cares

[boreal torrent]

That's the issue

[open pasture]

it's an indian accent version of "sir"

[lapis lava]

how

[boreal torrent]

being massive makes it harder to maintain

could make it more susceptible to vulnerabilities

[lapis lava]

except they still do maintain it well

else it wouldnt be used in every major distro

[boreal torrent]

wasn't there many systemd vulns in the past

[lapis lava]

every software will have vulns…

[boreal torrent]

not every software

[boreal torrent]

there are a few open vulns atm

large monolithic software just increases the attack surface

[dense prism]

lívia

[boreal torrent]

hi?

[boreal torrent]

but systemd works very well anyway

but i can understand why some people don't like it

[lavish schooner]

run0 uses polkit too :3

[dense prism]

why did you edit that

[undone umbra]

[boreal torrent]

because

[lavish schooner]

idk if it's way more secure but I definitely trust it more

after all, it's basically systemd-run

[lavish schooner]

with the same authentication infrastructure everything else on your desktop uses

(polkit)

[astral venture]

hello people!! im mae for intros, and im here to ask around if anyone wants to be friends and maybe join a minecraft server me and my friends are hosting!! so if your interested let me know in dms ^^

[lavish schooner]

so it can't possibly be less secure

[somber leaf]

Systemd haters need to be put in a vat and studied

[boreal torrent]

i can understand them

[red field]

@shadow owl

[nocturne bough]

how to use a linux software
1: try random flags like -i to input
2: it doesnt work try --help
3: it doesnt exist look at man page
4: its too long cant bother reading that search on google
5: success

[lapis lava]

windows is worse

[nocturne bough]

usual shortcut is directly going at google

[nocturne bough]

false

windows has ui

[lapis lava]

linux also has ui

[dense prism]

@lapis lava isnt this an ad

[nocturne bough]

false

linux users cant design ui

[noble quest]

true

[nocturne bough]

and even when they do they dont put all features

[boreal torrent]

are you illiterate

[somber leaf]

Explain please

[lapis lava]

eh i don’t care they arent directly advertising their server

[main wyvern]

is run0 actually good compared to sudo

[glad sphinx]

how to use any old macos program
step 1: dont

[main wyvern]

never used

before

[somber leaf]

Ffmpeg man page

[lapis lava]

also next time you want to report something and it’s not very important open a #📩-modmail

[lapis lava]

yop

[modern epoch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867972157601382401/1305495804722548747/togif-2.gif

[lapis lava]

i fully switched and its so good

[noble quest]

ffmpreg

[dense prism]

it wasnt very important

[main wyvern]

what's the difference

[dense prism]

but at the same time

[glad sphinx]

ffmpegleg

[dense prism]

it isnt a real report

[boreal torrent]

Systemd is large monolithic software
I can understand why some people prefer not using it since they might not need all features of a init system like it
But I can't understand why people hate it just for not following their software design philosophy, I think that's too far

[boreal torrent]

And then there's the sheeps who only hate it only because someone else said they hate it too

[nocturne bough]

how to install linux pacakage
1: apt install blablabla
2: it installs but its wrong software nobody has heard before
3: try to look at similar packets by tab
4: yes you couldnt find what you were searching
5: google appearently its called some stupid thing
6: if you are using debian add their dumb repo and blablabla and success

[somber leaf]

> system d is monolithic
Propaganda as usual. You can actually just use the init part and literally nothing else. Or just systemd boot and nothing else

[sudden sun]

eh idk

[nocturne bough]

meanwhile on windows google, download setup, installed

[harsh minnow]

https://fixvx.com/ItzzyyXD/status/1860540361527165207

[nocturne bough]

@jaunty ore can confirm

[jaunty ore]

mantika doesnt want to watch BL anime with me

󠄴

󠄴

[glad sphinx]

or brew, npm, bun, etc

[sudden sun]

fuck systemd all my homies use launchctl

[nocturne bough]

bad

[sudden sun]

@open pasture

[vapid yarrow]

mantika shall explod

[sudden sun]

@open pasture

[dense prism]

@open pasture @open pasture @open pasture

[glad sphinx]

fuck that, npm start

[nocturne bough]

launchctl using xml is brutual

[dense prism]

tiramisu

[boreal torrent]

Interesting, I knew about systemd-boot being independent but not about the init system itself. I was wrong then

[nocturne bough]

I edited a service on my iphone once and questioned sanity of developers while staring at xml

[boreal torrent]

Wouldn't you lose like

[main wyvern]

i love xml !

[boreal torrent]

every single feature by only using systemd as PID 0

[glad sphinx]

asm better ||/j||

[boreal torrent]

Or are the essentials are built onto it

[somber leaf]

Most of systemd is split into parts it’s not monolithic and most people complaining about vulnerabilities in systemd are actually complaining about optional parts.

[boreal torrent]

I see

[dense prism]

is lívia real

[boreal torrent]

makes sense then

thank you

[boreal torrent]

fym

[kind summit]

ayuxer is indeed alive

[dense prism]

do you exis

do you exist

[boreal torrent]

yes?

😭

[kind summit]

@harsh minnow whats some of the lyrics in this song mean

[nocturne bough]

linux users when software thats used by hundreds of thausands of people has more vulnerabilities than software used by 3 people

[glad sphinx]

no i am a robot created by the government to get you to use homebrew

[lavish schooner]

what features do you honestly need from sudo lol

[kind summit]

we are all pigeion spies lmaoo

[glad sphinx]

pigeion

[harsh minnow]

idk it was a sample

some old recording or whatever

[somber leaf]

Just cause they’re not used as much and therefore aren’t exploited as often does not mean they’re more secure. If anything makes finding exploits harder to patch~

[harsh minnow]

i dont speak swedish well enough to understand that

[boreal torrent]

^

[nocturne bough]

^^

[glad sphinx]

blåhaj

[harsh minnow]

it's a poem https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himladrottningens_bild_i_Heda

[kind summit]

ooo

[harsh minnow]

here's the text https://sv.wikisource.org/wiki/Himladrottningens_bild_i_Heda

[kind summit]

this looks so cool

[stone pawn]

Helo

[boreal torrent]

Did you know that people born in 2015 will be 20 years old this year

Insane, innit?

[harsh minnow]

“Eight hundred Christmas nights
I saw them light their candles.
Children, listen to what I am carving!
Kings kissed my foot.
Forgotten I sit. Dust shrouds me.
Ask me not for what you hold dear,
not for gold and not for a name.
Go, you denier!
Only with him who believes, miracles happen.”

When I heard from the red wooden lips of the image such heavy words,
a light flew on the wall and I prayed:

“Give me rather the golden heart,
give me a drop of the good,
loving humility,
which, forgotten and without a name,
has strained and seated you with a crown and a crown
high and stern on the queen’s throne.
Teach me to revere and sing
of the whole great, bright world,
which stands filled with the buzzing of wings,
meadows and mountains and wonderful,
nobly wise human works.
It has faith, for which much is sacred.”

google translate

[somber leaf]

Very

[kind summit]

oh for christmas, no wonder it sounded similar a little

[somber leaf]

[glad sphinx]

youtube will be 200 in december

[boreal torrent]

YouTube is older than me

😔

[glad sphinx]

not me, i'm 201

[boreal torrent]

👴

[kind summit]

the smell of carved wood thats burnt to smooth out wood carvings is very nostalgic

[dense prism]

can it run doom?

[harsh minnow]

funny website https://solblot.se/

[boreal torrent]

let's make a vencord doom plugin

[harsh minnow]

just a painting

[boreal torrent]

!!!

[glad sphinx]

bad apple too

[fast mango]

wait

this is not fair

@harsh minnow im banned from here, this is my alt

reban

[boreal torrent]

honesty at its peak

https://tenor.com/hIZT5rooXCL.gif

[harsh minnow]

oh

adblock funny

[glad sphinx]

osu

[stark herald]

NO WAY the RN app uses a + symbol rotated 45° at the right side

[harsh minnow]

wait no

it just didnt load for some reason

now it did lmao

[boreal torrent]

there's no GYZE - HONESTY gif

guhhh

[kind summit]

yeah I also see the postcard

[boreal torrent]

did you that the desktop app uses an upside down 6 for the number 9

[glad sphinx]

NO WAY the Linux mascot uses a real animal?????

[boreal torrent]

which one

Tux

or the ugly furry

[glad sphinx]

furry?

tux

[boreal torrent]

Xenia

[keen kernel]

Chat look at this person's creative tattoo

Now you have headaches

congrats

[glad sphinx]

looks like some fox femboy

[kind summit]

I think it looks cool

[boreal torrent]

I can't believe they made bricks real after Minecraft was invented

[glad sphinx]

Here's a tattoo I got:

[keen kernel]

I can't believe Minecraft invented children, because beforehand there were no mines for children to yearn for

[lime talon]

they did a good job hiding it tbh

[boreal torrent]

@lime talon awesome pfp

https://tenor.com/iGNaZhfwB78.gif

[lime talon]

until you use a font where the + isn't balanced

[lime talon]

thanks, made it myself

[boreal torrent]

cooll

[lime talon]

this in dms with fres is how we found out

[kind summit]

enchantment table

[glad sphinx]

sord

[kind summit]

crap forgot about re 7, was vibing for so long

[lime talon]

not quite

sort of similar premise though

[kind summit]

@harsh minnow ima play RE 7, thanks for letting me listen along for so long

[boreal torrent]

ℸ ̣⍑ᒷ ∷𝙹!¡ᒷ ∴╎ꖎꖎ ʖ╎リ↸ ℸ ̣⍑ᒷ ᓭᒷ⍊ᒷリ ʖ𝙹𝙹ꖌᓭ ᔑℸ ̣ 𝙹リᓵᒷ.

[glad sphinx]

||𝙹⚍ uᓭᒷ↸ ᔑ ℸ ̣∷aリsꖎator, ⋮ust adᒲ╎t it.

[harsh minnow]

wtf that announcement

fire

they made a new release

translated some of their songs from swedish to german and english

listening rn and it feels so wrong cause im used to the swedish version lmaoo

[glad sphinx]

caramelldansen

[harsh minnow]

FIRE

[jaunty trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bnuuy-steals-your-bunny-steals-your-bnuuy-gif-26209043

[harsh minnow]

https://open.spotify.com/track/66ymKxvTnXk0qcIpjnnLbl

[glad sphinx]

NEIN

[rapid aurora]

Jokes on you I already ate the bnuy

Why is there a hole in my stomach

[jaunty trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/bnuy-bunny-bnuuy-gif-26529152

[rapid aurora]

Holy wow

Since when discord gives these warnings

[sudden sun]

yea true

[kind summit]

oooo

[sudden sun]

well actually its plist

[nocturne bough]

plist is XML

same thing

[harsh minnow]

is this game good?

[glad sphinx]

X||HT||ML

[rapid aurora]

It don't have any picture in the previews

You can check if you want

[fallow pawn]

hi c @harsh minnow

[harsh minnow]

hi cunt @fallow pawn

[rapid aurora]

I'm not falling for that Mr nyamiezekätein

[stone pawn]

Very good

Yes

[sudden sun]

bplist

[harsh minnow]

her

[kind summit]

hai 👋

[rapid aurora]

Who's hey

[burnt maple]

@fallow pawn would u love me 4ever

[harsh minnow]

nop

[fallow pawn]

u have a bf

don’t know if he would appreciate u talking like that…

[rapid aurora]

"I would love you 5 ev-"

[harsh minnow]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4rKEmhNA19JezqVsSQS4yo

[vivid frost]

@shadow owl yo

[fallow pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/mita-miside-cappie-kepochka-bonk-gif-8844140136767655383

[rapid aurora]

Those white names are way npc than me omg

[harsh minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-mita-cappie-miside-gif-1195941474082415574

[burnt maple]

I feel so old trying to use the memes i saw on tiktok on internet

Glad that nevo got it atleast

[rapid aurora]

I don't use tiktok

[keen junco]

Nevo is TikTok

[burnt maple]

[stone pawn]

Yeah you're old and out of touch

[rapid aurora]

Oh yeaas I'm slow lol

[keen junco]

Grandma

[stone pawn]

Meanwhile im just young and out of time

[boreal torrent]

Classic

[boreal torrent]

does that joke even work in English

[modern epoch]

stolen

😭

[boreal torrent]

vc sabe quem é a pessoa mais linda do mundo? leia a primeira palavra :3 @stark herald

[harsh minnow]

lmao it's so funny when artists edit their own lastfm page

[stone pawn]

Imagine stealing memes on the internet

No such worse crime

[rapid aurora]

I really want to have conversations irl but people here are just way too cringe and have some ass taste for me

Like I want to talk about genshin and sigma things

[stark herald]

[keen junco]

Might just be copied from Spotify description or whatever

[harsh minnow]

yeah probably but the fact that they made a lastfm account just to edit their bio there

kinda cute

[boreal torrent]

I can talk about genshin just fine with my irl friends

[stone pawn]

Exactly you should keep talking here and not leave the house

[burnt maple]

Modern brainrot can be talked with friends

[boreal torrent]

they're huge nerds

[rapid aurora]

@harsh minnow can I say a brainrot word please
It's for a joke I want to say

Just once

[stone pawn]

Or talk to people at the bar about genshin

[stone pawn]

One of us

[rapid aurora]

Please bee

[stone pawn]

One of us

[harsh minnow]

just once

[rapid aurora]

Yes

[stone pawn]

Yipee

[stark herald]

brainrot pass is 10 dollars

[nocturne bough]

once what

[boreal torrent]

just once

then u get automodded

[sudden sun]

a

[harsh minnow]

YOP

[keen junco]

Well I meant that lastfm might've scraped and put it there with a fake account

[burnt maple]

https://tenor.com/view/lan-yan-genshin-impact-lan-yan-genshin-liyue-gif-6893629772165708692

[harsh minnow]

nah lastfm dont do that lmao

[boreal torrent]

make so donors can say brainrot @harsh minnow

[stone pawn]

I got it on sale