#🧊-off-topic-iceman-only
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Wellcome to TurkMan Linux, Yerli ve Milli Package manager, GNU/Linux, CcC
i'd hate to be proven wrong on this 
what happened to fawn
we need british linux!
this looks like @nocturne bough distro
died
US media is entirely at fault. Just look at the wording left leaning outlets used for trumps attempted assassination. “Popping sounds”
Both sides are guilty of it but it’s entirely medias fault
media is ass anyway
the US media is controlled by money. they have no choice
i go to reuters
Rising Republican star J.D. Vance to take spotlight ahead of Trump, as Biden contracts COVID
the left wing of the us is like centrists anywhere elsw
biden has covid 😭
the democrats are like
but the executive branch is realisically the weakest of the three
barely left
you can tell its enterprise by seeing it everywhere in europe from public schools to busses
supreme court is weakest they say shit but no one has to do them
(they dont enforce it)
thats why they hate guns
thats is the judicial branch
go farther left and we love guns
They literally decide what the law means TF do you mean
yeah the supreme court does a lot

ancoms will gladly let ya own a firearm
what
@light cedar
Um, uk?
the us is unambiguously controlled by money
idk thats what i learned in gov 😵💫
uk being left is a joke
Multiple European counties have highly restricted or banned them
corporations lobby the shit out of us
those are not far left places
what
ten gifted
also you still gotta be 21 and have that fbi background check be done to buy a gun
anyway who won the pipe bomb from yesterday
i can never tell what nate says thats a joke and whats serious
gun laws have gotten a little better as time goes by
yes
but still not good
i mean
they aren't
Gun laws in the US would be better if we abolished the ATF and made actual laws. I’m surprised we didn’t after wako and ruby ridge
Look at that technique 👀
no one mentioned religion
wing spotted
im gonna be honest
you were the one that brought it up
@digital kettle im picking the wolves
if i wanna own high grade explosives
2
@jolly temple hey
i should be able to
what dog whistle
Watch as with one screw I convert this pistol from a pistol to a short barrel rifle
Cord of the ven
idk shit about guns my guy
ACTUAL ATF RULING BTW
their cool
explain it then
and gun bans LITERALLY don't address the problem
2
yeah fr
for proof, see the uk
ur such a chud
fixing the broken mental health system in this country should be the first priority
plus
guys is it nazi of me to be against corporate lobbying
who even is @open pasture
okay i think nate is being satirical
yaman
no?
@open pasture wdym by dogwhistling
banning guns aint gonna do nothing when i can get supplies to make a pipebomb from like
guys is it nazi of me to meow
amazon and home depot
true
its really quite easy too
killing myself
basically pistols can be much shorter barrel length than rife. There are several laws that make a gun a rifle including adding a shoulder stock to them. Adding one can legally turn your pistol into a rifle in the eyes of the ATF and then would have an illegally short barrel length.
Why is there a limit to how short the barrel can be? Like 70 years ago when the MOB was an actual issue in America it was to make guns that were easy to conceal harder to well… conceal. It’s easy to just cut off the end of a gun tho before you commit a crime tho so it’s ineffective.
Also if you make a shotgun short enough it becomes a weapon of mass destruction at short range
oh boy gun talk
who is 'they'?
grahhhhh
how lol
nop
Ghn
lmao
noone talked about jews
trump makes strict gun laws after being less than an inch away from being killed
would be funny
i wouldn't be surprised if he did as well
nah
@paper gate your new keyboard
i dont give a flying fuck about jews people can practice whatever religion they want even if theyre a satanist just dont force it on me :3
the world would be better off without the ATF
he got so close to dying and i am sure he will have ptsd from it
?????????????
i just think capitalism is a mistake
psst i see dead people
mustard on the beat, yo
It’s literally the best economic system we have it’s why some Chinese cities have different laws just to hold up their economy
ay mustard on the beat ho
so hes gonna make the us even worse
hi vencord
didnt think he could get worse policies
hiiiiii

actual fact you all need to watch david with china insider lol
Regulations make monopolies in the US by making it stupidly hard to even enter a market.
I LOVE LATE STAGE CAPITALISM MMM CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME
trust me
cant continue there is a bad word in the way
It’s why lobbying is SO BAD in America
is hating an economic system that's doomed to fail anti semetic
china;s economy is going so badly and is very close to collapsing and that is just a fact
soda bestie
watch david with china insider 
i need to leftistpill you
please
How
never understood why people call it lobbying when it's just straight up bribery 😭
soda are you seriously anti regulation
make you into an ANCOM
good night cord of the ven
I’m anti federal regulation. State level is more effective
i hope yall get brains
PLEASE
you're anti testicle?
i have faith
what are you even saying
and the god is dead
we need federal regulation though
I support TÜRKĪSH capitalism
hii
how u doing
Keep doing what you do best vencord (feed the trolls)
you love when people talk about how socialism fails completely disregarding the fact that most socialist systems have failed as a result of capitalist countries starving them of resources and planning coups to overthrow their governments 
meh
This guy trolls in here like everyday
The federal government is why we have cheese caves and ruby ridge and effective lobbying and such a massive political divide in America
im cis i swear
are you mossad
who
uate
FIRE
are you still at work looser
who
Yes
Exactly
awh :(
oh
Do u think lil shine would beat uate in a fight
i just found hitler shiggy again
Classic socialist cope
how are you a real human being
lil shine would beat the fuck out of them
Socialist and communist economies are inherently flawed as you remove market demand and competition
💀
i think even domd would
and hsi ass got beaten like 10 times
scammer twig
you always either have the best takes possible, or just the worst ones possible

sodaaaaa
you may be more delusional than that guy
we should probably limit the political convos a little bit though
why would you need them? socialism progresses through the inherent desire to do things with one's life
please become based
you're listening to eminem right now
so my girlfriend doesnt kill me for talking to uuu
I find it funny how much everyone here hates me for being centrist
yeah
you take it from here man!
centrism is poison
being a centrist is bad (surprising)
deal with pronoun fries and download
France works on a mainly socialistic system and it's NOT doing good
middle class gets JACK SHIT
no i hate you for being gay
you like men
weirdo
helooo @cosmic otter
I do like men
at least they have nuclear energy and don't burn coal like crazy

the only people who benefit from socialism are the lower class and sometimes the upper class
that's about it
im centrist too let's gooo
i mean i havent heard about specifics and wasnt even aware of france really being socialist lmao
sorry i cant chip anything in there
you're not supposed to be proud of that
what the fuck...?
is it me that thinks this is crazy?
poor fawn
like absolutely fucking schizo
the longer i stay in vencord the more my brain rots
kinda true???
Either companies keep innovating and keep supplying value or they get complicit and give competition a chance to undermine them. We’ve seen this with pretty much every large tech conglomerate and across all industries unless they’re heavily tied to the government like utility
regulation is bad but
regulation by communities that all agree upon it
much much better
idk i dont think ill continue any further because i just dont really value the political opinions of the average vencord member
i barely talk to most of yall
capitalism is (almost*) the only reason why we mostly still use coal and not nuclear power for energy production

like i dunno
Unions are the reason cars are so expensive in the US
HOW IT WAS BACK IN LIKE
They unironically make more than me on a production line
WHEN WE WERE HUNTERS AND GATHERERS
okay you're actually just stupid
LIKE IDK A TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY
"omgs you're so stupid!!!"
fails to provide arguments
if you had a tiny bit of literacy you would see that it is stupid
without unions are lives would be even more miserable
he has like banger takes followed by absolute Ls
Idk how I feel about unions
unions are cool
heloooo
because you're a terrible mod
political debate been going on for like an hour now
you're calling me illiterate for not having the same opinions as you?
I’ll stop
just lock the channel

shut up
that would do literally nothing
None of us are white names
nearly everyone involved in the convos a regular
state sponsored lobotomies would be a good idea
ah yes you guys are so much better
TRUE
thank you, thank you
:(
so. we good ass name in this at some other owners died
workers rights or effectively slavery
to any new users, dont take whitename hate
cheez
fuck donators and fuck regulars
cept like kass
now that I think about it, why am I still here I genuinely deleted vencord like a week ago
political talk is very good of course but keep in mind that once it gets to the point of literally everyone disagreeing with one another, that is when it should stop. to each their own, ykyk

it is july 17th, 2024
true
yeah and?
pronoun fries
you're dying next week
?????
2 days until post this cat
That’s the point of OSHA
how are you not banned
also the point of unions too
v+ regular @open pasture
oh god
you are now part of the rabble
ha ha ur dum now XDDD
I agree that message is insane
oh my shogging god
(what did they say)
what happened to you
one of the few ppl i have blocked here is hum
Anyways looking it up the raw labor cost to build a car is around 1k in the US it seems? It’s more new regulations forcing manufacturers to put in expensive safety systems as well as the economy being fucked
him
yeah me too
regular impression
so what did they say
"guys my name is coloured i hate white names anyway look at this suggestive anime image oh also did i mention that i hate white names"
i forgot
safety systems are good
too lazy to check
what's the problem with more safety
common whitename behavior
ah yes let's drive cars with cheap safety systems that won't save people / will kill people
have to read blocked mssgs

I didn’t say there was a problem with safety
@open pastureactually though if i see you say skibidi one more time i will just time out for awhile and then take the regular smh
no brain rot
politics in the client modding server is wild
i think theyre gonna say it
you are not helping 😭
Like to sell a car in the US now a back up camera is legally required
oh my god
Mitsubishi had to add it last minute to their mirage and G4
freeze peach baby
what does this even mean
all of you shut up about politics
I think we should legalize nuclear bombs
SHUT UP LOOK AT THIS CAR.
it's so funny to me because so many discord servers I'm in theres just nothing to do so people immediately default to the dumbest stuff possible (politics in mobile game discord servers)
look at the car.... NOW
i don't have enough information to stop talking about politics right now
I don’t get why we care about care safety yet stubnose light duty trucks are still legal
i don't get why we're talking about politics in a client modding server
NOBODY ASKED THAT
idk so that people die less???????????
They statically cause way more head trauma hitting pedestrians and more likely to kill
nop you will post here
@cosmic otter would you notice if I stole a lock of your hair
momy
momy
vencord
MOMMY
you will 3d print a gun
because everyone has to be right, and slurs are banned so there is nothing better to do
nooo i will
probably not
i shed a lot
I’m complaining about legislation on truck noses which I’d argue is more important than a backup camera
the 2nd part is crazy 💀
implying that saying slurs is better than discussing politics
I have a 3d printer and I swear to fuck if y'all keep talking about politics in here I will blow my head off
welcome to vencord
fair enough, those are quite annoying
but still
No politics just mega cookie
I wna t a 3k printer
share cookie
the diabetes monster
well, saying slurs used to be a passtime favourite of some vencord users
🍪
you are hairy
it says a lot about the atmosphere
I didn’t expect it to be that big
I found the video lol
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Why are newer pickup trucks killing so many pedestrians, cyclists and motorcyclists? We set aside politics and emotional attachment to look at the data u...
wing is completely covered in hair
i don't have enough information on politics so ill let it continue
it really does, doesnt it
save yourself while you still can
you have no idea
eat the entire thing in one go
@fallow drum would you notice if I stole a lock of your hair

sasquatch
actually, I do
@dusky forge
that's lemon
do it somewhere else this isn't your sweaty politics debating server
Hi
a single potato isn't that much
bring your stench somewhere else
wish i had regular just so i can post shitdog to end the politics for good
I weigh 90 pounds, it’s a lot of food for me
anburger

make it 91
you could maybe or maybe not post about politics i maybe have to listen

lmfao
then make it 92
@mental oxide

ANBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Im Asian, what do you think
ok but
iive like
never seen u until now
guys it's my birthday in 3 days :D
a fate worse than being American
happy bird day

Happy early birthday

I think this picture explains where I live
?remindme 3d tell bricky happy birthday
Alright @dire dawn, in 3 days: tell bricky happy birthday
what day is it for u rn cus it was my bday on the 17th
@mental oxide
one thing is discussion of free software and another is discussion if unions are good for a capitalist economy or not
happy birthday lol it's the 17th here
oh god
:3 ty
@mental oxide
I have a single air gun and that's it

tyyyy
Im mail ordering a m1 garand when I turn 18
Honduras?
blocked mssgs
its ok i didnt say much about it
bwa
@empty storm
you know you messed up when kevin has you all blocked
ROSIE
:3
me and kev are besties, no way
i cant tell if its happy or angry
can you kill the president later on pretty please
kev just trolling
thank uuu

respect him for that..
is this gun even legal at 18 lol
now THATS a blobcatcozy!
only hunting guns are
@fallow drum when are we hanging out??
never
@cosmic otter are you a glowie?
why do people use guns to try to assassinate presidents, why not just a grenade launcher
you ain't seen greatness
Not accurate enough
NOOOOOOOO
Also a SS agent can just body flop on it and boom
💀
but it's a literal grenade, you get a larger margin for error

why do i have an image of shiggy as a nazi
They’re extremely low velocity

and civilians
eh fair enough if you're far away
Im gonna be rich!
ding dong
ok ill delete it and my search history so i can never find it again
They’re only effective at clearing small rooms but not exactly outside or explicitly for murder. A frag grenade is effective in war because it’s gonna take forever to nurse them back to health if they live
a person who want to kill the president won't care about the civilians*
*probably

meow
the red ones are cool
a while ago
posted some edit of the shiggy gif
@sly spear, <t:1721174016:R>: check HDDs for TecTech documentation
@sly spear
no it was something else
Hey it’s chibi doki aka heart attack
it referenced a racist 4chan phrase
uncats your svg units so gamebaker
these headphones only play j cole
@sly spear CHECK HDDS FOR TECTECH DOCUMENTAION
Me
what
She has a small heart
i stole videp frpm @crisp finch
tnd acronym but they replaced the n with shig i think
Even bigger head
so do you
you're the one going "hey look how much money jewish people have"
so do you
idk if thats the same thing as what stella is talking about
yop
I told you that in confidence 
i got them banned 
literally
that will obviously work
I’m starting to think the left you’re thinking about isn’t the same as the US left party Stella even the extremist wouldn’t have guns be legal
@harsh minnow omg look
IT'S OUR SALUTATION
whoever made this eill find themselves in a hot place
dude
american "left" is global center
im talkin about the REAL left
the one with molitovs
what
I said the extremist aka global left
WHAT

do not post nazi shit
dude
did I do something wrong :(
many leftwing extremists are very pro-gun
@open pasture are you fr or is this a bit
THAT'S NOT EVEN MY REMINDER
now
Idk I think they’re a gem /j
nate is a self-admitted soyjak party and kiwifarms user. you do the math
oh okay
will Nintendo sue me if I wear the color red (it's super Mario color for them)
answers all i needed to know
Ashley get in dms
I hate everything you say but i know thats your goal so i slightly respect you
i wanna talk about abolishing the establishment

Rip Uate
shit
x^3/3 + x^2 - 3x + C

I forgot the +C....
Based PFP
why do people think that astolfo is feminist
he is fucking manly asf
i forgot so many times in calc :skul
Hello
that would never be what the fans want
what do words even mean anymore
too for 1$ and you already going "zeeby doo"
carrot
You want fate/oops all astolfo?
geometry dash on psp
yep that was a sign i need my impulsivity meds
That’s… that’s the point
The strongest people in fate are the two greatest irl kings of all time
😭
Hello chat
Wtf is this
psp fangames are surprisingly good
psp fangames

strongest tiktok user
i need
you can mod your psp and play games such as fnaf to FNAF 4
but they are fangames
I find them fun tho
i have mine modded but i havent used it in a while
i wanna play gta vcs and lcs
Vencord chat go one day without posting nazi shit: level impossible
can you try FNAF 1 and 2 and tell me your opinion?
and gta vcs and lcs
OMG TRUE
down bad fr
What. 😭
omg :3
cute
im not gonna agree with you so im deleting my message
can't trust without proofs bro
nah i lost the cable i need for putting games on it :/ thats why i havent used it in a while
Where do I go to ask about the android versions of vencord? .w.
(Auto-response invoked by @sand citrus)
it's not support though is it?
that is Astolfo
it counts
Oh okay thank you :3
is astolfo a minor
I have my old psp it's 1000
and the controller is broken
like when I try to go right it goes left when I try to go forward it goes backwards

mines 1000 as well
it works fine still i just
we are lucky
need the cable
No but that image does look fairly loli
newer releases have double ram i believe
the 3000 feels smooth
but I prefer 1000
but i think for official games its ok
yea ive heard like the actual like
what do words even mean anymore
physical thing is nicer on 1000 compared to the other ones tho
yeah ig having psp 1000 modded gonna be kinda laggy
but specs r worse
bitches just say shit now
meee
minimum age for a knight in the middle ages was 21
HES BRITISH???
Astolfo in canon already lived a full life and just has the body of their prime
HELL NO
WHICH IS OLDER THAN MODERN DAY USA MILITARY DRAFTS
HOW
i forgive him
shit i could get drafted once i m 18
Humans are physically peak 18-25 sadly
Yep.
we have Guns
It’s like $1700 of sharks
plus wars are just for show anyways
THAT LOOKS TERRIBLE LMAO
we should just have the countries' leaders fight one on one
That’s the most American thing you’ve said but there are also more factors than that
lmaoooo
@sand citrus
would be a lot cooler
car noooooooo
Why do we fight over arguments with other countries
lmaoo could be worse but its silly yeah
Get one then
omfg are they still arguing
Precedence mainly ig?
No I'm saying
20 dolar
there's only 2 levels
I have a blahaj do recommend
Why do we fight wars over stuff our government causes
exactly
I have no money so
Kill.
just have the leaders fight eachother in a wrestling tournament
Real
It’s apart of our social contract with the government. There should be a FFA area for people to go to if they don’t like that tho. Like I’m not joking
Would be cool
no
What..?
wym what
We aren't even talking about politics
i think drafts are bad
sounds like politics to me honestly
We're just saying the presidents need to go in a boxing competition
sniffer
everything is politics if you think about it
if this is somehow apolitical i will eat my slippers
Real, if no one wants to fight in your dumb war, why have it?
They’re bad but forced conscription is worse
Are you a bot or a real person
@cosmic otter is a catboy already
You're a real person
@paper gate
Yesnt
What is next
yeah
convince me that kitties being cute is political
well.... black cats
omg yay

cats are illegal in some places
Why do black cats have superstition
My cat
wait rly
You see this cat represents something I don't like in society or someshit
You know what I am talking about right. For some reason black cats get a really bad rap
Cute
It's undeserved and they are usually seen abandoned
She’s always oddly moist and it concerns me
racism
They have single handedly put more species in near or total extinction than humans. They are the ultimate hunters
IT'S SO UNOPTIMIZED
yeah probably
South korea
Also both my cats have white spots on their chins only and are grey cat and blown-black cat kinds of cute
wtf is that that looks like what those people make on scratch 💀
Shit opinion
😭
um
Forcing someone to join the military at a age is basically the same thing as a draft but without a war 💀
sob
Cali is desperate for that tax money for their social programs lol
"Elon musk is....... homophobic?????
"
Because the society to improve won't change because of the government
HELP 😭😭😭😭😭
You don't see people "care about society" because they don't make it their life's work to tell you they do
LMAO
Any kind of conscription shouldn't be used even if for infrastructure and you instead look for other ways to expand things like better pay and the like, also for the military even if you ignore the ethics of a draft it isn't something I would do if I was in charge of the military
OK finnster
Are you communist
wait read it wrong
not this shit again
just another day in the vencord discord server
Womp
soon @rotund timber you won't believe my cats get automodded
Taking out the sweats. Impostors among us
@uneven finch no one cares about your discord server
let's KILL them
Idk cats are so cute and lovable
They are
hello i am the one singular person on this planet who unironically dislikes cats
I HATE IT
Countries are going to have militaries no matter what. If we outlawed them globally someone’s not gonna play ball and will have an unfair advantage. We have drafting because honestly who wants to go to war? If no ones gonna fight than another country can walk over another
IT SMELLS SO BADDD
How could someone hate this
wet dogs smell so bad
it is illegal to move cats from norway to svalbard
Gato.......
it looks fucking scary
gay men
Also have you seen those photos of cheetahs acting like big cats so cute
She’s so sweet, all she does is meow and lick you
prokect michael jordan
And want attention
why?
It’s like nuclear bombs. Everyone has them so we’re on the same level playing field in a stalemate not exactly that we’re gonna use them
hi real sho
who is ?
people do actually volunteer to armies you know that right
vbam
wait till i tell you this.
THEY SCARE ME
we don't need drafts
where almighty
agreed
She actually won’t, as soon as a new person meets her she just starts rubbing agains them and meowing for attention
Some people do, sometimes it’s not enough people
CHAT CAN SOMEBODY HELP ON RULE 16 PASSWORD GAME
how
DM FOR THE CHESS BOARD
NO
post it here
Yea
the us alone has a fighting force of over 1 million people
1984
i cant chat
all volunteer
le imgur
sad
or le posting it in a diff server and copying the link
She does this a lot
Yeah, and we don’t use the draft unless we absolutely have to or invade Vietnam again
massage
they all look like wild predators and they all look like they're this close to biting your aorta out
and orange cats don't have anything in their skull they're a danger only to themselves
Like I said it’s like nuclear weapons. We have it in the hope we will never have to use it
cat gifs don't help
my embed color 
sry am i scaring u
they may look cute but they're evil predators
theres just very halal
the just in case argument doesn't really work bc thats what reserves are
STOP POSTING CATS
let's post elephants
cats are NOT halal
why does my gif not work
Reserves are limited
are you comparing cats to nuclear weapons or are you talking about a different conversation
yes they are
no embed permission </3
oh
Different convo
because you are the owner
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
oh sorry
would a draft not also be limited
Fluffy cats are the best
She’s soft, but she leaves hair everywhere
meow
Limited to a much larger and capable selection of the population that can be opened further like France had to do it keep its line
Like, the couch was black after we came home after a week
Yes that is the case with my cats
The couch is supposed to be white
But I love them
Draft isn’t there as the first option it’s the final solution when everything is exhausted
It’s why we haven’t used it since veitnam
:3
😭
I love having her only room but I can’t sleep with her
guys can i get a few prayers so paul doesnt die in my password
She crawls up to my face at 2 am and starts beeping

And she won’t stop
with girls?
no password game on neal.fun
She wishes to kneed dough
cool platic thing
It’s her 3rd favorite activity
She kneads everything
Constantly
@warm zenith go to SLEEL
That sounds cute
gwa gwa
gwa gwa
Her 2nd favorite thing is licking and her first favorite is screaming
vmink
what
Lmao one of my cats had the first activity
did it not embed for anyone else?
our young generation is lost man...
She loved yelling at people
vmink
I’ll come home and she’ll hold 1 meow for 45 seconds straight
minky on the cardboard box
Sometimes both of our cats meowed at once and it was so cute
their traits expressed by vennie vencord rat
Lmao she will yell until her demands at met
the Pikachu gif got me screaming blood
Fair
Idk what her issue is with licking stuff
She licks shoes
My elbow
The floor
My fingers
The couch
Maybe she has three brain cells one for licking one for kneeding and one for screaming
She also likes honey mustard for some reason
Oh that is interesting, I think one of my cats will eat any food he can get his paws on
And always wants my rice krispy treats
I am disappointed human give me your food
I can’t even eat them without her trying to grab them
She just wanted the wrapper
Oh that is interesting
I think she likes things that make noises like bags
That might be it
51*
Does she go in the shower or what as why is a cat moist a lot
Idk what she does
I’ve found her in my sink before
Sometimes my cats are interested in me taking a shower when I leave but run away from It when they see it's water
She follows me like a dog
Like I have left after showering a few times and one of my cats are like hello
And makes pigeon noises
I forgot I could have totally seen minky when I went to get my passport
is this true @paper gate
I’m upset I forgor
She just wanted to catch pigeons
meowcord
Meow
Hi
She sounds like a bird constantly
@paper gate will you still not let me pet him
Are you sure she isn't just a bird pretending to be a cat
They haven't noticed yet
Idk what’s with her
I feel that with my cat
She’s my favorite though
Aint that the fish from the movie???
He is just a derp
do NOT diss my boy nemo
Im just asking questions here
Acquiring knowledge and all that
That dude gets money from terrorizing people on horror amusument park rides
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lol
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@frank kraken gn Callie 
How I feel playing underdogs vr with my own music https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/03/21/ecb109f80d70c1d9.mp4
I got a little silly for a couple days here
And I was found guilty
bro just aid it referenced a snap
nate be like
These names mean nothing to me