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Might just come back to this game I quit a bit before season 5 and i can see it getting better
also with cns having a chance to ocme back which gives hype because i played since closed beta and lore was crazy
had this thought i shared with a friend and wanted to say it here too
so vaiiya and their mind protecting chip, the thought was that playing in the finals is more than vr and is similar to cyberpunk and deep dives where you need to both do sensory deprivation and jack into the game, this meaning there's tech and electronics connecting to a person's head
so what if opponents and sponsors want someone to lose, and instead of just implanting thoughts or bad ideas they did something more, not harming contestants outright but making them just miss a shot, not be running when they should be, tiny things
just an odd lore implication thought i enjoyed
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vaaiya contestants get wallhacks
No silly, this is fanmade, made by humans
thanks
Got a question, in the universe of The Finals, do contestants look exactly like their real life counterparts, similar to Sword Art Online, or can you look however you like, similar to Ready Player One?
everyone hyped for today? š
I think you can look however you like, since you're able to change your face in the cosmetics screen and even use faces of former contestants
I'M HYPED 
OH YES!
what ya think? which time?

Im gonne have to wait til tommorrow but CNS sircuit will be PEAK
Yeah
is the lore in this game good enough to truly start reading in to?
i don't think it' good to read into any lore besides maybe music. too much gives away the mystery
suspiciously CNS shaped world tour gap coming to fruition
Also, OSPUZE makes laundry detergent(?)
Talk about a Tide Pods situation waiting to happen damn
they're everywhere 
the Irons have ISEUL-T branding on them, I did not expect this charm hahaha
I totally get the ISEUL-T branding on the irons tho considering ISEUL-T is a fasion brand
yeah that makes sense, I wonder what the insinuation here is for OSPUZE 
Has anyone noticed in the past 2 store updates they have been using season 2 music
ye, aligned with the CNS teasers
How we feeling with the new info today, lorehounds?
Lore idea: CSF (CEREBRUAL SPINAL FLUID/CHRIST OIL)= Could be a new parrent company of CNS.
What info though
Im hoping its just "Ospuze scented" and not "Ospuze can be used as detergent"
also
the "viscous visionary" set... robo ceo? How Sal "attends" events ect? I feel like this implys somthing
The back says it can't be used to dispense any other liquids except Ospuze Pro Juice (a bit hard to read)
"Do not reuse this package for dispensing beverages other than Ospuze Pro Juice"
Kind of makes me feel like there's just normal Ospuze in there
What is the CNS tab for in the contract
We'll see tomorrow
Do we know who the simulation/Ai that runs it belong to ? Who's hosting The Finals, responsible for balance and maintenance, and so on ?
multico
so its a detergent-shaped ospuze jug?
????
My theory is that Ospuze can be used as a detergent
This is the theory I believe in. https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVK0idxbU=/?moveToWidget=3458764598300166451&cot=14
But only the bravest of lore hunters are ready to see the truth
I love this.
their version of the Tide Pod Challenge
So i was right
Can we all agree ospuze is just that 14 in 1 shampoo meme and call it case closed?
yes
@cold scroll u aint slick gang
Well ospuze is apparently a shampoo, detergent and energy drink at once
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I know that the //SYS$WT.CNS Is just supposed to be the syshorizon CNS world tour thing but it still seems like a coincidence that if you type //SYS$WT it will open up the terminal on a windows device
WHAT UPDATE PUT CNS IN MY COMPUTER???
They're putting multibucks miners in our machines
what do we know about the corps and what they produce?
Lore Idea: The current disrruption is just the trailer for a bigger picture in season 6, where the CNS comeback again better and stronger, so much so, forcing the sponsors to call in their veteran players to play under the guise of their respective sponsors. Hence season 6 would be CNS vs Sponsors showdown, with new gadgets created by CNS and probable a new mode introduced.
lore idea: drinkable ospuze instead of lethal injection. Any objections before i make this cannon?
The real question is are there enough stonks?
fuck, forgot that. nvm then
Not a bad idea, need some crowdfunding
I'm a energy drink connoisseur, and I see potential
Iād cop
Someone give me a quick recap of any lore I should know about
Finals is a virtual reality gameshow in 2100 controlled by a mega corporation known as MultiCo
MultiCo owns other companies that sponsor the gameshow
CNS is a hacker group that has currently unknown motives, leaving cryptic messages within the gameshow for people to find
If you wanted more specific lore I can probably help with that too
yo
Whoās ready for CNS to come back and shake some ass!? šš¼šš¼
Nice name dude want to collaborate on some lore bit that may have not been found yet? CNS in specific with ties to howtow sort of lore
CNS is not what you think it is and that is all I have to say. Get it right or wrong there is something you are missing that exists our real world that powers CNS from a point of original origin... Here's a hint what is the most primitive AI you can think of?
What is DIT?
And how do the fans tie into the real life "blood" of the game that allowed we CNS to be CNS before the games even existed.
massive news for the unemployed
Well well well... Good job
Finally
"they are not hack June, they are glitches"
Like anonymous in the finals universe ig :p
Anything on the new cns messages anyone
Independent hacker group closely related to the OG creators of The Finals game show. Back in season 2 they and Vayiia bashed heads against each other which led to the game's reboot and the creation of Kyoto map. They're also responsible for the Terminal Attack game mode.
tomorrow
the cns message has put this channel into an absolute frenzy i love it
I love that CNS is using the YYYY-MM-DD format
YURRRRRRRRRRRRRR
VAIIYA is Cooked š
What?!?? NO WE ARENTā¦
im down bro
CNS hacking again?
Like Vaiiya is gonna let anything happen
Before you sign up for Vaiiya it says something along the lines of not responsible for keeping you safe from CNS or something like that
Vaiiya doesnāt guarantee safety from CNS
Read the disclaimer ^^^^
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! VAIIYA, YOU HAVE FAILED ME
Yeah Vaiiya is kinda screwed I read that and chose dissun because they guaranteed better power
I guess :((
NamaTama will save us
NamaTama, Rob, and Oscar will help us, the power trio
Honestly I hope CNS is a sponsor next season their gear is so sick!
Yes, agreed!
DedSec from Watchdogs Essentially
But honestly Vaiiya has better mask and gear than dissun but I like dissunās arena colors better
Thatās sick, yall got cns drip?
Thatās fair. I like the white out from vaiiya, BUT DISSUN DOES HAVE COOL ASS CLOTHING
I have the Arad outfit from S2
I have all CNS outfits, from season 2
From season 2 yeah
I gotta look some up
We'll more than likely be getting more next season
I would share, but I havenāt gotten the role yet lol
The CNS hoodie is pretty sick itās from the terminal attack event but I missed it because I was new to the game and I only got the battle pass right at the end of the season
Yeah, itās like a track suit, correct?
Ive been playing since mid season one, and Iāve only missed the Halloween event.
The blue track suit I have no idea but my friend has that one I have the green and grey glitching hooded jacket
I have 13 out of 20 for the love wheel and I really want the bomb head
Ohh, yeah. That is Ariad it was the season two end battle pass outfit
In a minute or two Iāll share my Bug outfit I made using the CNS clothes
Iāve got 4 left to collect, and Iām getting pissed I canāt get the last couple lmao
Dang what items do you have left?
The rose hat, the bomb hat, and the two others I canāt remember
The bomb head looks so fun I see everyone use it and Iām getting jealous
Agreed. Itās so unbelievably goofy, but I WANT IT
I got four dups in a row the 4th being a extra spin from ticket parts
Ooph man, thatās not fun
here is my bug
Nice, I like it!
You should see my best jump pad moment from I think S3? https://youtube.com/shorts/_3gv_bQ5dJQ?si=mVnK6S4HazA5yCjC
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They just kept flinging
My random ranked teammates are like this
Yeah lol
I canāt find this fucking tracksuit, no one seems to have it logged. I swear to god it exists though
Once I get the level, I can send the image.
I think I found it on someoneās picture on Reddit of their locker
Yes, that is exactly it. There is pants to go with it
Iāve got a pretty good outfit for the top
i think i found out more the CNS girl season 2 master circuit
yes it is the s2 master circuit
Yeah, that sounds right
Ohh, I somehow missed what you were talking about lmaoo. The terminal attack shit. Yeah, I got that as well
Oh, yeah. Thatās it, thanks for finding that
Agreed, the AKM skin was really cool. Especially since it looks like the Arc Raiders logo
Beautiful⦠simply amazing
Iām gonna have to make that skin too. I will see you in the arena, contestant š«”
ĆRF
Do we know anything about the r/CNS poster? u/4RCU5? any theories behind this CNS userās name?
Marcus with no m
I happen to have all of these, but something that really confuses me was a CNS Jacket. Never seen it before. Does anyone know where that is from?
According to The Finals Wiki, it is called the "CNS SCRIPT Shirt", and it is tagged as a Contract Reward.
Not sure what Contract I missed, but damn. It looks so cool and I want it. Lmao
Oh my god, I didn't even notice that when I was checking it out.
My guess is that the Sponsors for Next Season are going to be VAIIYA, CNS, and as a wild shot, VOLPE.
season 2 master curcuits
yeah i was just about to say, should be circuit reward
So the new world tour stop will be CNS related correct?
and the one that called cns script shirt it's a terminal attack events reward
nah vaiiya got everything in order no cns around
Stop the cap
VAIIYA has digital roombas that suck up Contestant Coins after matches. It's a small contribution, but it helps
Good catch, do we know anything more?
Arcus is another Ariadā¦

Hey guys just wondering has anyone checked the world tour leaderboard as of late?
Guys FAMAS or FCAR for medium???
Idk, maybe ask the medium hangout channel if you want to know. Here it's only lore related, friend!
lol
Is CNS coming back for next season or nah
It's coming back tomorrow
Dang it I thought they gonna come for another season and stay
bro I'm hyped for tomorrow, I wanna learn more about CNS
when I first played the Finals, I never thought there would be lore, but I am so here for it
anyone know what time theyre starting the event tmrw morning?
Theres an event tomorrow?
I wonder what dissun has to offer once they run out of fuel
Did Scotty find a valentine
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they gonna cook
guys cns hacked all map for their world tour
With love....<3
I wonder what the implications of there being 2 node trees are
One with sponsors and one without
Is there a morse code in the new Cns post?
definitely interesting
its 3 if u look to the other side , so far back
oh damn yeah
I would have said that it's supposed to represent different game modes but we have far more than that
Although if we say that the node trees are shown before team deathmatch it could be
Cashout (having most attention of sponsors and being the main game mode)
what the other 2 could be I have no clue
.nfo is a text file extension, mainly for cracked games
it says "trainer gamemode", so this mode was around for couple of time, idk how long
No, trainer as in cheats
I see, maybe it's just a soft way to calling out "cheaters" that playing every game like a deathmatch ?
bloopers
"Random nonsense operating"
you want artists uses unreal engine's logcat debug output?
come again ?
No it's most likely what CNS uses to add new game modes into the game
so like software modifier ?
Yup
what does be first or be last means ? other than TDM mechanism ?
Probably doesn't mean anything really
Just that you either win
Or you dont
mov eax things explained here
(yes it's a whole uni thing, don't mad at me)
and I also realized that CMs has distorted font ?
What is cns? what is thee most comprehensive place to read about themm
CNS is a mysterious hacking collective with the goal of destabilizing THE FINALS. They are responsible for cyberattacks against the gameshow and other in-game companies. They encourage viewers to "seek the truth beyond the walls," though their exact motivations are unclear.
thank you
Maybe the middle one represents the ai currently running things, and the others are backups
Why cant i create an vc
So move eax is assembly code. It basically would mean "place into my eax slot" . It should be followed by another identifier to indicate what would be placed there. I imagine it doesn't have any meaning here and it is just code filler text.
thanks for the follow up bro
I wonder what Vaiiya would do without Powerš if we run out of fuel you will cease to exist. Especially since AI uses A LOT of power. Without Dissun you wouldnāt have the Finals. 
I feel like it would be CNS Vaiiya and flipping Iseul-T again
Erm guys I think cns hacked the show again
ay guys im in desperate need of someone who knows a thing or two ab the lore and wouldnt mind sharing it. nothing fancy, no arg experts needed [tho that wouldve been rly cool lol], mostly some ground level type of info
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I guess they still exist
Why the fuck we all pink?
Nice find!
I didnāt find it lol. š @sacred latch made and found it. I just resurfaced it for newer people
@bitter osprey Ah! Thanks anyways!
But if you want to see something funny against Vaiiya look at this bottom text disclaimer we were never protected lol
I found this one out myself when I almost signed up for Vaiiya for their cool mask
I always read the fine print haha
Promise never to question something is a sure fire disagreement on my end
Vaiiya was too shady to sign with them and I was with ISEUL-T in S4 so I stayed with them in S5 lol
I was Holtow š
I can break the arena as much as I pleased because I know it was insured
Honestly, all sponsors in all seasons have good looking gear and it is always a struggle for me to pick one
Me, I am transcending realities
Proud sponsor rep
Good luck with that Iāll give you our card in case anything happens 
And I can provide you with a nice pair of sneakers to run away from the danger
Do they come in orange?
I believe that the sponsor DXZ mostly seen in the Halloween event is another fashion sponsor probably ISEUL-T number one competitor. They have a sunglasses stand in Vegas
I really hope to see DXZ as a main sponsor at some point, their stuff is very stylish too!
whoops Iām signed with vaiiya
At first I thought they were dissun because of the red and black and some of the symbols are similar to dissuns
Dude your profile picture is amazing! Should have gone with Dissun we have power like that
Iāll think about it next season
but I kinda want to finish the vaiiya reward track first
I donāt think Dissun is coming back as a sponsor next season because if CNS stay for S6 then Vaiiya probably is going to stick around or run like heck
oh so they change?
They do itās just for whatever reason ISEUL-T continued even though Holtow won the competition
People had some theories that ISEUL-T is used as a front by CNS since S4 to hack again into The Finals again. ISEUL-T has a similar color palette to CNS and they have a strong focus on anonymity and being who you want to be. There might be something linking them together.
Thatās probably why they made it to this season for no reason. And the meta data was found in their image
I wonder if only those that stayed loyal to ISEUL-T for both S4 and S5 will have access to CNS rewards in the next season if CNS is a sponsor...š¤
Isn't ISEUL-T a MultiCo's subsidiary tho?
You are right, it is. What I meant was that maybe CNS hijacked ISEUL-T's place in The Finals. However, if I remember correctly, Scotty and June were talking about someone/something letting CNS in so maybe ISEULT-T had something to do with it.
CNS has sent metadata in tons of images, it doesn't have to do anything with ISEUL-T so far
Itās you! You have returned!
wym, i live in this channel 
People were telling me about you in the Easter egg channel
What is the difference between the easter egg and the lore channels?
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The lore is about the history of the Finals and the Easter eggs are about the potential future of the Finals. I believe
That makes sense. Thanks!
Guys I have one question about OSPUZE! Why does a Pro Juice leading energy drink brand have fabric softener? What is in my drink?!
ai looking like a creepy jelly fish of some sort or looks like the central nervous system with the logo being the brain and the funny tentacles or strings being the nerves
Does remind me of neurons
and whenever scotty and june were speaking together about CNS in the lore videos, the ai was always in the background, hence the name CNS??
i still think CNS is a branch of the ai
my favourite theory, in the lore videos it literally showed the ai trying to defend itself
I wish they didnāt make ai off of the VA for Scotty and June and just hired them permanently
They canāt pronounce the sponsors the exact same every time. they sometimes say dissun as ādissin or Dis sunā instead of dis soon - dissun. Or when they occasionally pronounce Engimo they say engine-mo or in ja mo
Would have had an impact on game lore, highlights, updates, and its cheaper and is very fast. there are some downsides, but they still did use original voice models from actual people. the downsides would be obvious mistakes like pronunciation, but i dont really notice it except in the old highlight videos
i remember the holtow world tour where they said holt-OW and not holt-o
they have improved the ai A LOT BETTER since i started playing, im pretty sure in the alpha they did use the original voice actors. but i remember june sounded really depressing without the ai version
it's just a node tree
probably a reference to blueprints in unreal engine since the game is built on unreal engine
Guys Iām not sure if you noticed. But CNS is backā¦
OH MY GOD WHERE NO SHOT
If you look closely when you open the game they have an opening cinematicā¦ā¦
And something called āTDMā? Maybe another hacker group
Great theory CNS actually might be back
tdm = team deathmatch
I dunno. ISEUL-T again? Not sure. We'll see soon though!
Wait, I don't remember our roles being Pink
I was gonna say that
Oh god, we got Pink'd. Surely this is an ĆRF reference
I'm pretty sure they changed the colors to match CNS. CNS IS INFECTING DISCORD CONFIRMED!?
Lol we're all just shades of pink now that's a neat detail tbh
They just nerfed CNS last patch so idk
Lol
Actually, that begs a question: What color do you think of when you hear CNS?
Any of the main colors that is on the SYS$Horizon map would be a good start. Their aesthetic uses a lot of colors from the synthwave/vaporwave aesthetic so any vibrant color like hot pink, neon blue, etc.
CNS are some crashouts dawg they back againš
I agree, there is a lot of indigo in the night version of SYS$Horizon
Isn't just because of valentines day?
Cns back in it bro
Probably not. They didnāt do this for Halloween or Christmas
Yea make sense
This looks like a visual glitch, but it also looks like the thing in the training room, I dont know if it is a settings thing or if they are related. I know that was a point of interest within the community.
Was Power Shift a gamemode technically made by CNS?
No
Oh cuz I was gonna theorize about how CNS wants The Finals to function like your typical shooter with their gamemodes such as Terminal Attack and Team Deathmatch and potentially Powershift (Push the Payload)
CNS trying to turn The Finals into COD
I think that's a lighting bug
Oh, alright. Thatās what I figured
I feel like that left The Finals is the hacked version from S1-S2 and the one with all the "broadcast screens" is the current version we are playing.
I think an older lore video also mentioned a console screen where the AI was looking for other servers to escape to. The left version could be the old AI now hosted by CNS.
Hey, can I find a kind enough soul to explain me some lore details in here? Not looking for any deep arg ins and outs, mostly the basic stuff.
like a pirated broadcast, in a way? running under the finals' name but putting out their own message?
pirated is probably not the right word, its just what came to mind
I don't think they're broadcasting anything over there. I think those small screens on the right one are broadcasts.
I don't really know why they would make a copy. Reasons I can think of are:
Just to keep the old AI alive.
Or
To use the old AI to test some hacks they could use on the current version.
This is just my gut feeling tho.
well it does seem very intentional that they put a separate, smaller, screen-less icon with its own nodes and stuff. it probably would be like some sort of beta testing grounds like you said, a kind of hostage version that cns is exploiting for their own use and exploration.
Which is why they still have a back door to the system! Clever idea!
scam'
new mode fire just got 23 kills
it starts with engimo then the CNS face shows up and it turns "neutral" and then ISEULT
There's also Dissun in that image.
true
I think they are broadcasts
Scotty keeps saying that "The Contestants won't experience any muscle atrophy or skeletal deterioration" during the low gravity event. However, the main issue with a gameshow taking place in a simulation are precisely those two things (and power). Therefore, Scotty is lying. S LIES
If he lies, then what if this whole time, he never actually won a match without dying? Just Like Scotty...
I can explain the Sponsors and how they impact the show, if that helps.
There are also trailers where you can buy the CNS, he doesn't seem to be one with the CNS
The latest trailer for the new mode has also appeared
I have some theories so let me just grab some screenshots real quick
He's working with cns and they gave him a max dodge build like in pd2
Is this a good place for posting fan theoriess?
it is probably the best place, not really another channel for it
fair enough
Just a surface level examination:
I feel like the "CNS Publicity Stunts" are part of a class war type-beat; CNS's very very retro style (especially in the era The Finals takes place in,) makes me think of a wealth gap, where in this case technology, - and thus access to the world-wide-web - is so widespread that literally every home has at least an old computer to watch their favorite sport, but this is where The Finals becomes not about entertainment, and instead a distraction. CNS is a rebellion group, drawing attention away from the glitz and glamor of maps like Vegas, and using their retro imagery to drive a lower-class rebellion. The Finals is the wide-spread distraction, but CNS is turning it into the wide-spread news broadcast, attempting to get some kind of message out, likely about the divide of class in the world The Finals exists in.
This is likely reading way too deep, and again just based on surface level speculation. But it makes me think of stuff like the Hunger Games and other dystopian media where the lower/working class are pacified with some blood sport to obscure the gap between the upper class.
I feel like most of this is kinda obvious, but also the course CNS is taking with the ramp up in their "stunts" certainly feels like their end goal is a "system reboot".
All theories are good theories
"The Contestants won't experience any muscle atrophy or skeletal deterioration"
he is technically saying the truth, it's just that the entire reason why contestants would get these medical conditions would be wrong, so half truth?
With CNS being able to mess with the finals, Games i think thats kinda what vaiiya are talking about, if the finals security is this weak, others could easily influence gameplay and throw matches. so Vaiiya is advertising gameplay insurance, TOTAL MIND CONTROL INSURANCE!
where is discovery
Namas such a drama queen
Does the CNS trailer have any hints to next season
yeah next season is going to be season 6
Sorry if my logic is unclear, you can see the full picture i am talking about in EE text channel
here is a explaination:
this might seems vague because English is not my first language, here was my logic and discoveries:
every time Nama gets killed it symbolize taking control of the finals or generate gold-
CNS will protect Nama for some reason, Nama is happy when CNS appear, CNS will prevent Nama get's killed by MultiCo
Nama is something that deep inside of The Finals AI, it got rebooted in S5 (Mitosis phase, and start generate gold then explode in gold), it wasn't rebooted so there's no Nama in S4
simply put, Nama is something core of the game, CNS wants to protect but MultiCo want to profit from it, Nama also symbolize the control of the game show.
why namatama need to be protected i thought they are just mascots
if still too vague just mark my words, if CNS ever comback in S6, Nama will either be: happy about CNS return, CNS prevented Nama from death, got respawned by CNS
specifically "reverse mitosis" is the scene Nana will show up in S6 trailer, a bold guess
Nama Tama Drama š¤£
it is a "Mascot" because the game show runner (MultiCo) won't tell you what exactly it (Nama) is
The Finals it self is a AI system as you know it
Nama is the AI's core or something, MultiCo didn't create The Finals, The Finals is a AI itself (Likely created by CNS)
CNS want's to "take back what's theirs", and they know what excactly Nama is so everytime they save Nama, and Nama seems happy about CNS's hack
Trust.no.Lies. -- CNS
here take a look at this trailer from S2
Nama is a mole (?)
it's a egg, without egg white
Yeah but they're also a mole, CNS saving them
bro where did you get that information from xDD
It was a joke dude
CNS hacks the screen right before they die and then they're fine
just a simple joke of that straight forward logic
here is the start of this theory, might be more clear for bigger picture
dude it was a joke
yeah, I was adding point to my theory, or you mean the egg got killed just a joke?
I probably would have like, explained my thought process and evidence in the statement if I was serious.
nono don't worry I just didn;t get it since english is not my first language, I might not understand what's funny about being a mole
just a cultural thing, I guess lol
I was making a joke about CNS "saving" Nama by hacking the feed right before they would have died, there for Nama has some kind of "in" with CNS, so the joke is ridiculing the straight forward logical thinking someone would do to come to that conclusion. I was humoring the idea and making fun of simple minded people.
In case I need to explain the joke further, cite the wiki article on "sarcasm"
oh damn my bad i didnt know that
im so sorry
:(( no no don't worry, i thought you are talking about this
Yeah I meant moles as in the term for spies, like a "rat" being a snitch.
Ohhhh I get it now, hahhaha great joke! <33 dw bro, all love
i think it's just a mix of Namatama video to create glitching effect
where was that heart namtama from again? the one that isnt hacked
look at the picture I posted, every time Nama is about to die, CNS in, every time Nama died, massive gold generation
CNS said: accept no lies, seek truth beyond walls
MultiCo is lying to us
S2 after CNS hack and S3 The Finals AI reboot (sequal after CNS's hack)
LEAKER
nama tama revenge arc when
next season would be my guess
Nama tama is weirdly discreet for a mascot, I wouldnt mind seeing it a little more. Like in transitions from death screen to spectating, or at the end of tournaments
iseult works with cns and killed engimo off god bless
none of the old boomer hackers were poor, the only reason these lingering communist ideals have festered for this long cause they were living in a walled garden made up of 0.01% of the world until very recently and they thought that if everybody joined the internet they would become like them, information chokepoints are supposedly what's debilitating them. Time has proven them wrong and readjustments are coming
CNS is "taking back" what was theirs
I have no idea what you mean
It's an ideological war since obviously CNS members were never poor or they wouldn't have access to the tech in the first place early on
You're saying the CNS are apart of a small sheltered society, and they think the internet will cause everyone else to be in similar societies? And so the checkpoints are stopping their hacks and time has proven that the internet does not cause the speculated isolationism?
Cause when you say "walled garden" and "0.01%" i imagine the uber wealthy high class and i can't imagine why the uber wealthy would really GAF about most things
That's actually exactly I think these are spoiled children of some old programmers larping as revolutionaries while having no real context of history
While that is very pessimistic that is kinda funny.
That the CNS are just some very bigotted people forcing their worldview on the big screen.
Well the number is closer to 0.1-0.3% not 0.01% if you calculate what percentage of the world could play quake when it came out, but the point stands that nobody involved in any kind of serious tech was poor.
If you want to extrapolate the present I would imagine that CS type games keep increasing their stranglehold as games stop being a for fun activity, double down on the clout aspect of everything and spawns more uwu clones like valorant, but eventually this new corporation dethrones it by any means necessary and now these nostalgic kids think that people who built the virtual world and quake played search and destroy instead of CTF which actually does resembles cashout. And now they spend their time trying to revert it to their false premise of the past.
I think thinking about The Finals as only a game is a bit understating the impact of sports and games on our society, but I do humor the idea of "Game Conservatism" and wanting to return to our roots but for gaming and not any truly political agenda.
Games are bigger than movies and NA sports combined, games are the end all be all of all culture from this point forward cause label music is also dead, games will end up gobbling up politics as well. The whole 1 life no regen thing is a political and ingame message cause they can no longer be separated
CNS are not fucking luddites if that's what people are insinuating
No I mean like they are so wrapped up in their personal values that they see everything else as corrupt
Go #easter-eggs if you are interested in what MultiCo might lied to you (this is a theory I crafted today, need a bit of Lore knowledge), just click on the reply chain, to see the ealiest start point.
carriables phase thru window, possible CNS shenanigans? or probably a lag
Also, have the map announcer's voice always been lagging? he sounds like he's in pain
yeah
yeah what
there is both ambient sounds with announcer glitching and the live commentary glitching
been like that on sys horizon since s2
ah, i see. i like your name
Then did you pick Holtow or Engimo as sponsor last season?
no i picked iseult, i just hate their season 5 drip
Is it just me or is this description a little... sus? like why wouldn't we be able to?
Because such are the rules
It seems like to make the AI more sponsor-focused, it's surrounded by advertisements of Sponsors?
the blocky structure in this area matches the "unfinished" stadium SYS$HORIZON
My theory is that they are broadcast screens
also valid, though it's interesting why they didn't look like this before then
This would mean that the left AI isn't broadcasting anything. Maybe because it's under CNSs control
Yeah those screens were floating around a lot more in the earlier lore videos. Could be that the broadcasts are more under control/focused because of Merciless Marcel
another thought I had was that this "mindspace" here seems to be as physical as SYS$HORIZON.. meaning the AI exists "in" the world, in a sense
and conversely... SYS$HORIZON and other maps seem to be built "in" the mindspace of this AI
Bossfight mode against rogue AI when š¤
EXACTLY
because you conceal your identity and Rutile Rolls is a casino so i mean it makes sense they dont want to get robbed
hey guys, kinda new here. did anyone notice more than one THE FINALS logo on that new CNS trailer?
better question is, why would you want/need to?
In one of the TDM intro voice lines June refers to TDM as a ānostalgia bombā and refers to it being back. Was TDM in one of the original closed betas? Or was it just a game mode that existed in the past in universe
screen shot?
also numbers
idk if new or not (v. hard to see)
I noticed that too! The left logo could be the old AI which has been shut down at the end of S2!!
Is this in the Las Vegas parking garage? If so we already know of it.
NAH, WHAT
I take it back. Itās a stupid theory, entirely implausible. Iām a stupid man.
Hmm⦠you may be on to something
I think it is live footage.
Iseult having two colors variant is curious
Thanks, I put on my pointed aluminum foil thinking cap(tm) for that idea
I think so
this kind of makes sense huh like the broadcast screens are supposedly the data that the AI is running its RNN on or something
yea so the untextured map theory has been canonized
There's a clear continuation with almost no changes, s3 clearly did not have a freshly built system
I think Vaiiya just made a copy of the S2 version and put it on a securer server
the word that they used was always "reboot" but then again they almost have to be past versions of the game and maybe its symbolising the UE5 engine update or something around that time who knows lol
But I didn't see anything about moving anything anywhere ingame
If they're not versions they have to be other games like finals
Yeah but the existence of two TF logos gives me the feeling that something has been duplicated
any comparison shots?
yea I think that's canon that's in the s4 video and the background fluctuating broadcasts are gone and june says the sponsors are in control etc
CNS's original version that stole&munipulated by multico?
Is there a reason why I've only seen three teams going into a match? Kingfish, Shock and Awe, and Steamrollers are the three I consistently get. Do other teams get mentioned for players?
Damn bro, why you so mad, relax, I mean do you play to have fun or just to be toxic lol, you seem fun, but awesome profile pic tho
sry i was just bored and i dont even play it idk what its even about
Same bro same hahahaha, I get into this chat sometimes to see the pattern of peoples thinking and to be supportive , you sound amazing and the profile pic is the GOAT on damn hahaha
The plot thickens?
Since CNS came back Iām now hearing cars while in character selection
The term "trainer" has come up a few times in the TDM trailer, what does it mean?
TDM_Tr@iner
and if why is there a Cashout option in the trainer menu?
^
does cns have any modification towards cashout? maybe we will know in upcoming wt
mostly used in cheat engine stuff
12 Valentine's Day Roulette Tickets and the 12 Nasty Tickets Fall on Repeated Things
3rd times the charm?
???
i think it's an ai.
They are still in world tour
For some reason quick cash only has 3, no idea why
I saw a weird 2D fire thing shoot down from the sky in the last <1 second of a game. It looked like low-poly art
no meteor shower event
If you clipped it I may be able to tell you
What it is
I didn't š¦ I wish I did. But nothin' was really happening
oh well
Was it on Kyoto
no, Skyway Stadium, near the Dissun house thingy. It was with the elevated area.
ohh i saw that too once, no idea what it is really
it was like a pixel art explosion
cns stands for carbon nitrogen sulfur
why
pereodic tabel
Bro scotty hates CNS so much he always sound so sad or annoyed when mentioning the arena š
Scotty is more interested in June
he even pretends June didnt just say "Gosh Darnit they smudged our beautiful map again" by saying "THE MAP RENDERED WITHOUT A SCRATCH ITS PERFETC LOOK AT IT CNS DOESNT EVEN EXIST"
Spite and denial
June says "TDM is back".
She could be talking about the winter snowball tdm but it wouldn't really be a "nostalgia bomb" with such a short time frame
fits with the theory of THE FINALS being a ānewerā version of a previous game show iteration
not sure if this has been mentioned but this definitely moved right?
Yeah. This was also the location of the S1 glitch cluster
PLEASEEEE CNS S6
possibly team deathmatch just died down in 21st century as a gamemode and people got fed up with it
this is like a "so retro" moment for the finals universe
yeah it really seems like TDM is outdated in-universe
"back when all you needed was good aim and fast reflexes!" is one of the starting lines i believe
Probably why it was introduced by CNS, considering they have a huge retro aesthetic
I think that this implies CNS was at some point working on or with the game show officially
Could be a case of disagreeing on the direction it should go and they parted ways
TDM might also have something to do with the early stages of development of the game in the real world. Embark probably probably had something similar internally to test weapons, gadgets and specialization for game balance before they invented the concept of the cashout game mode.
I FOOKING LOVE SCOTTY
maybe, but that would mean the finals used to be TDM or another gamemode
if im understand right at least
to me the finals has always been the cashout gamemode, bc of the name
and theyre just referring to pre-finals, where fps games were mostly tdm stuff
now its a whole gameshow with so many other factors the contestants need to be trained on
Maybe the show primarily used to be an older mode like tdm or terminal attack (both of which were brought by cns) and the showrunners, mainly all corporations and MultiCo, wanted to stay up with the times and change their modes to new things like cashout. Whatever corporation cns was could have disagreed and split from MultiCo, resulting in their distance and the dislike MultiCo has for them. This would also explain their retro style and prolly some other stuff I'm not thinking of right now
Could CNS be anti AI being with the finals is an ai program
also being more into old or analog tech
I mean the vaiiya ceo is also just a robot
CNS are not luddites
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CNS has nothing against the finals
I mean they clearly want to change it
this is a really cool idea, though id imagine if they actually had moral objections to the game, they wouldnt be adding maps/weapons/gamemodes etc, since those just enrich the game. they clearly like the game and want it Their way, whatever that is
CNS is secretly just Reddit with terrible balancing takes
The Finals is actually getting hacked by a bunch of 4Chan neckbeards š¤£
lolo
I mean... hard to say, but given that the companies seem to be actively harming their customers (vaiiya chips, ospuze being probably super unhealthy, holtow and insurance scams), and cns telling peeps to seek the truth outside seems to put them in a bit better position
Probably
Maybe cns is a conspiration
Hi anyone knows who is the voice actor that does the ''Power is power'' voice line. It sounds a lot like Euan Morton who plays the Male Sith Inquisitor in SWTOR
I think they just used AI voices for the most part, the same with June and Scotty
I also 100% agree with this, from my understanding I feel like most of the sponsors have their own personal motives just like with Vaiiya and Holtow.
I donāt believe Engimo or any of the other sponsors like Ivada and Volpe have any motives that would be seen as evil atm, but hopefully we get more lore on those companies in the coming seasons
I think they need to make a line for CNS while / when cashing in, right ? Like DISSUN having "Power is power, the powerhouse yadda yadda yadda"
Could anyone tell me what dissun does? I canāt seem to make sense of the āpower is powerā slogan. Also sorry for not even knowing the lore of the sponsor I chose š¦
Power is just power fr
Thank you
Doubt they did, probably just an employee with some voice filters though
This game has lore?
Oh yeah 100%, but itās sort of sprinkled in throughout the seasons
Wait. There is lore?
Yep, thereās been a few videos online discussing the roles of each of the sponsors such as Holtow, Dissun, Engimo, Oze-puze, and Vaiiya to name a few
Sorry again for botching the some of the sponsor nameās, Iām just recounting the ones from memory for the most part
Sorry, is there lore?
I've been playing this game for 7 years and never noticed that there was lore!
Why is there lore?
engimo literally runs the internet+social media
And the ad is also heavily focusing on your fear of loneliness
Any cinematics in the update?
what are they saying in the update video? so far i have:
extending realities (x2)
in the sky
stay connected
something something
extending realities (x2)
was wondering the same thing
where is the new CNS skin from?
what the fuck is this
covering the neck is bad design and turned it into a burqa or something like that
and the colors make it look stupid
I believe S2 had a line that went "we are CNS"
no, I mean "Scotty and June" lines
||REDACTED||
wowowowowowow
CNS best
Who is "we" and where can I find them 
Statement please.
Actually, forget the please
Statement NOW.
Damn, I very want their like a sponsor
yes. this seems to have appeared on SYS.
Some others have also found it and reported it in #easter-eggs
IM PLAYING GTA 7
THE OPPS DONE PULLED UP
Vaiiya, dont do it. You're just gonna make a repeat of season 3.
Maybe we'll be working with contestants one day
of course Ariad's a heavy, he just sits infront of his old-ass pc š¤£
It looks like there's a contestant in the cover of the CNS album, appears to be a Heavy build with their only identifier being the Mourning Majesty headgear. IDK if this is signifigant, but it seems wierd that CNS would have a contestant in the finals, or be advertising/favoring any contestant.
There's a real voice actor behind the AI thing like June and Scotty.
I'm just looking for who that voice actor might be
Because he sounds very familiar
Lots of lore yes
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Iāve been wondering who voiced them for a while
wow
Vaiiya we. As. One.
I thought that CNS was about damaging the companies behind The FINALS, but then again Iām not the most lore savvy person here.
Yes, that's what I'm saying. I'm confused why there's any trace of The Finals in their album cover, especially a specific contestant if they have no interest in participation, only disruption.
It would seem that they are choosing to partake in the system in order to change it.
I mean, we donāt know all to much about their agenda, but from what it seems itās harmful. Thereās a voice line from June that says something along the lines of āThe (team name here) have had a hold of that platform longer than CNS has been disrupting our broadcasts.ā
And I agree here, an inside man for their agenda would probably be smart. Itās what Iād do in their position.
Zero clue what theyāre doing with the TDM mode tho, maybe just a hack to prove they can get past Vaiiya?
I think it'll go the way of Hunger Games, the only way to get a real message to the media would be to win and then get some big message out. I hope they don't devolve into full-on attacks and continue with the simple "game-changer" activism. I agree that TDM is a bit confusing for their first real action.
I think you're right it's just invoking some fear, making people know that they are actually here and not just some writing on the walls.
Yeah, after season two they became kinda a boogeyman, an unseen threat that wasnāt really much of an issue. Whatās concerning to me is that Vaiiya hasnāt responded to the hack at all. Seems a bit strange.
It'd be fun to see a kind of turf war, divide the contestants between Vaiiya and maintaining status quo versus change and innovation with CNS. A Splatfest-like event like from Splatoon would be insane to see, especially since we have something similar with the sponsorships.
They're probably gonna take it slow, season by season updates on the different sides. It will probably escalate over time pretty quickly.
It seems like for now, CNS is in near complete control. Scotty and June and the FINALS as a whole seem like theyāre playing along to save face. Like this is happening on purpose, even though it very much isnāt.
Not related to the CNS discussion, but I'm very confused with Scotty and June's relationship, as Scotty keeps claiming June is getting material out of no-where and is stealing his lines, as well as June kind of taking a more dominant stage presence in general. This dynamic never really fluxuates (at least this season) which I don't like personally. I want to hear more of Scotty, and think it'd be nice if there was a bit greater variety of lines. (Also adding more team names would be great)
album cover?
The album cover on YouTube music and Spotify
The images for the songs. If I got what it's called wrong I apologise.
Specifically all the xX_TF_CNS[Blank]_Xx songs, the ones made for this season.
@serene otter
Sup
Vaiiya is fixing the glitches?
well yea they're not luddites they dont want to take it down
I never said they were luddites why do we keep going back to this
to take finals itself down you have to be anti tech
I just think its strange to have any contestant, especially a seemingly pre-existing one represented in their work
Not exactly? where tf you getting that idea?
why else would you want to take it down
Because you don't agree with their system or the people running or why the games are in place or what it represents?
so many reasons dude
and then what replace it with your own game? whats gonna happen after it goes down? the luddite idea is that this tech is separating you away from the way you were meant to live
How am I supposed to know? Dude, I'm not saying they want to replace or even de-establish the system what the hell are you on about. You're way too deep and are thinking about way too many details.
Listen to what I am saying:
It is strange to me that there is a contestant represented in the CNS album when the CNS are trying to disrupt The Finals
I know that the CNS are not luddites, I already explained my personal theory recently that I believe that are using The Finals as a means of drawing attention to poverty and a potential class divide in their world, not simply disrupting gameplay. They seek to get a message and spark a potential revolution, not take over or destroy the system. You need to calm down and listen to what I am saying.
Also you can want to disestablish The Finals not because "it's technology" but also because (like in my theory) you see the gameshow as a device being used to distract the masses from the issues those in power are failing to address, or you might think The Finals is messed up because it's literally a bloodsport and worshipping violence is kind of messed up, or you could just not like the AI voices they use, or not like some of their sponsors. Please stop and think about it and listen to what I'm saying for like 2 seconds.
Do you mean the guy on the right? That's Ariad, the CNS person who put themselves into the game
Thank you! Do we have any more info?
Not really. We only know that he's part of CNS
I just noticed you can even see Ariad there
V aCCEPT tHE cHALLENGE
SEE YOU IN THE ARENA!
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Discord: https://discord.com/invite/thefinals
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"something stirrs on the horizon" could probably be the vaiiya grid that was found on SYS
what was the voice at the start? is that supposed to be the kid without the voice changer?
That's june
That robotic voice in the middle is interesting
Who the hell is V and why should they take on CNS
Maybe it's the THE FINALS AI
So, basically CNS hacked every single map on the game to mock Vaiiya
Possibly Vaiiya
Oh yeah probably
Las Vegas and Kyoto are still missing. They'll probably be hacked next week
what did he say before that?
The new released video oh CNS is so big for 26s, someone need to datamine it (well it is in 1440p so idk)
it's 243mb, maybe they fuck'd the encoding/compression ?
also the voice keeps changing, the stirs on the horizon was with a different pitch
the only error in this subtitle is that STS = stirs
Yep. it sounds a lot more robotic
Season 6 bout to be crazy
what does "no noise just a moment" mean
Vaiiya could be the returning sponsor
Taking from a YT comment: "CNS: We are still here. For now, no noise, just a moment. But something stirs.. on the horizon."
even seasons are always better anyway, IRL seasons are always worse
"no noise" could mean that nothing is hindering them at the moment.
"just a moment" probably that they aren't done yet
cries in holtow
its also with an accent
Dede has been hacked by CNS š
it's an ESL accent, some vaguely french/northern european accent
They are probably preparing for something big
I haven't watched the video I am on a lecture
the way he says moment is very odd, the voice changer is completely changing everything and its not just a pitch modulator if its the same guy throughout the ad, it's like an AI filter
Does Ariad have unique voice or is it just a filter of default voicelines
My theory is that it's the THE FINALS AI. but that's just a gut feeling
so CNS dude and finals AI are completing each other's sentences?
Vaiiya when it comes to doing absolutely nothing:
I feel like they are cooperating. Could be completely wrong tho
Does the video have subtitles?
In game probably
this is some deranged esoteric language if its not misheard lol I love it, double down on all this stuff
only auto generated ones. but there were subtitles while i was watching it ingame
"something stirs on the horizon" referring to the VAIIYA thing?
Definitely
I would love a giant Vaiiya person where that thing is and we'll have to fight it
Giant Damien vossler appears
This world tour has all the maps except for las Vegas and Kyoto.. could it be meaning something?
Probably saving them up for week 3
Ah
I like how Scotty is pissed
The only thing I can think of is
Las Vegas had map glitches during s1 and Kyoto had CNS Easter eggs sprinkled throughout
The funniest thing is that Scotty and June aren't even in the same room when commentating
You'd think they would both be in a single room
lore
Heya, not sure if this has been brought up yet, but do you reckon the lowercase letters here spells "war"?
Dear CNS, please stop making the game ourple
I hadnāt noticed that part not gonna lie! But maybe itās hitting at the next theme for season 6? š¤
Or maybe CNS and Vaiiya/Multico have a proper square off
Like a war themed battle pass with different moments in time like the medieval age and the vietnam/coldwar? Itās just speculation Iām throwing out there but who knows
I did notice that as well, also if you look at the .nfo CNS notepad thing, at the last line of the text, if we ignore the first 3 words, you get "war at cyhnou". Though the last word is nonsense, it could be something?
Gameplaywise though it'd be legendary seeing a knight heavy bust through a wall with a sledgehammer
Maybe we have to unscramble the words/decode it
Yea thats what I was thinking
Would be could to see broadswords introduced for either heavy or medium
Or CNS might go with an old school late 90ās/2000ās theme arena shooter for the bp and introduce the rail gun
Rail gun would be pain to fight against as a light main haha
I think the railgun would definitely be a game changer for sure but balancing it would be a nightmare š
But going back to this, the name scramble could be the name of the new map with a similar sort of environment to SYS_horizon
Yes thats exactly what I'm thinking but I don't really have experience with cyphers so I dont know where to start
But also keep in mind that we have another week with CNS, maybe they reveal a bit what they are up to
I assume based on the teasers, CNS definitely has an old school 70ās 80ās aesthetic and the TDM teaser has an retro menu screen
And to your point, I think they might sprinkle in more by week 3 of CNS world tour about text seasons theme, weapons, some of the cosmetics
Maybe CNS and Vaiiya end up in a sort of hacking war and end up breaking the A.I.ās code resulting in a temporary crash that results the game show to boot up back to an early stage/build of the finals
Also I have noticed (I could be wrong tho) that their "messages" are becoming less and less corrupted. For example when the first ever teaser for TDM dropped 1 day earlier than its release, the CNS message here on discord was fully corrupted/scrambled but today's message only had half of it corrupted. It could just be a cosmetic effect, but what if it cleans up all the way by week 3?
That would be cool for a throwback event or something lol
We already getting the finals classic after only a year š
The return of nukes lol
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what even is CNS? I've only ever heard them offhandedly mentioned by June
Some sort of hacking group in the world of The Finals as per current lore understanding I think
this is pretty much everything we know about them https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/CNS
CNS is a mysterious hacking collective with the goal of destabilizing THE FINALS. They are responsible for cyberattacks against the gameshow and other in-game companies. They encourage viewers to "seek the truth beyond the walls," though their exact motivations are unclear.
Not necessarily a throwback event per say, but more of like in relation to the lore of what an earlier build of what the finals mayāve looked like when Scotty was a contestant
After all he does have some sort of history/resentment with CNS so maybe heās also hiding some things that we may not be aware of
The way I could see how this potential what-if theme for season 6 could go is that itās very retro/old school with like some of the cosmetics during the season 2 battle pass when CNS was first introduced
So potentially more old school/retro homages like Metroid as an example and more game console themed weapons, but also the season could sprinkle in more lore about Scotty and MultiCo with maybe archived audio recordings that we get to listen to possibly š¤·āāļø
Calm before the storm of 'war'
For now, no noise
Something stirs on the (SYS)Horizon
Yo that actually makes a lot more sense now from the initial teasers! š¤Æ
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Does "something stirn is coming" mean cns is trying to warn if something worse than them
No, I think its foreshadowing a 'war' between CNS and VAIIYA as the something 'stirring' on the horizon (of SYS$Horizon) is the VAIIYA MindMaze
If its happening, i hope we get involved
Second world war
Vaiiya and CNS once again
I'm assuming CNS don't just go away after this third week and they become a part of the sponsor showdown in two weeks time
Just like terminal attack trailer
Will sponsors pledge to CNS like in halo 5, would be pretty cool
Ok CNS too far
Calling out VAIIYA?
I think it has to be, what's the V for if not VAIIYA? :D
I wonder if Scotty really belongs to CNS and is just messing with June
No points on any of that.
yeah i just realized but still i want to see something between cns and vaiiya
with the stuff about cns starting like a cyber war, vaiiya being on the horizon kinda reminds me of battleships slowly approaching a shore of a country ready to fight
kind of like d-day
It's in the library of babel
Interesting find, could it mean something? Is it possibly in a context similar to war? (nvm)
Well, so is every other combination of letters
Peak ass color
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What I also find interesting is the bit saying "accept no imitations" as if there's someone out there trying to pretend to be CNS
Would just would underline more that CNS might have been the original founders of the game
ok yea saying the state it's in now was stolen and "an imitation" of what it was/could be
"you have nothing on us" sounds like either Vaiiya is making up stuff or CNS is actually guilty of something but left no trace
hmm, king of the hill gamemode?
I don't think they'd make a new mode when they've just added TDM
Could also mean something in the direction of "you cant keep us out the system"
That last bit is a reference to battlefield lol
Why CNS only brings generic FPS gamemodes?
did any legacy skins make it into the game
some of them would be nice to have
huge lore drop by oscar on stream
||"the sponsors sponsor the show"||
HOLY SHIT, this might actually be the beginning of something huge
CNS's "accept no imitations we are CNS" statement seems to be the antithesis of every sponsor's overall theme of "Unity"
which makes me think... MultiCo may not be so much an amalgamation or an umbrella corp to all sponsors. i think MultiCo is a living thing comprised of all players who have given their being to a sponsor, and therefore, MultiCo.
Pretty sure the pistol in the Dede bundle is one
What if The Finals is an imitation of something originally invented by CNS that then got "stolen" by MultiCo? As we already know, the The Finals gameshow is in reality an AI program. In the update 5.9 lore video, we can see multiple node trees with the The Finals logo (probably representing AI/neural networks) which seems to represent multiple instances of the gameshow. At some point, there was a message from CNS saying "[THIS BROADCAST HAS BEEN HACKED BY CNS] Taking back what is ours ///CNS ###...###...###...". This means that CNS is probably redirecting the broadcast of the gameshow to their version of the The Finals AI.
looks like a neural network of some sort, reminds me of the plane in arcane
btw did anyone notice how the name "Discovery" is still prevalent in the lore
Since the game's original name was Discovery, and CNS is "taking back what's theirs" then maybe that theory of them creating the original Finals (Discovery) is actually true? š¤
nvm it says discover lol
Could still be a reference to it
I have got a theory:
THE FINALS is based in the future.
THE FINALS houses futuristic gamemodes.
CNS loves ālegacyā gamemodes.
CNS hacks THE FINALS to add ālegacyā gamemodes, such as terminal attack (Search and Destroy) and, most recently, TDM.
I think CNS is maybe an group who wants to bring the finals to the past, thats why maybe a old Kyoto from the AI got created and most of CNS in-game stuff is heavily from oldie/80s stuff inspired
There's still a lot of "Discovery" in the game. Most default skins of weapons have "Discovery Corp" on them
This is also what I thought. I am starting to wonder if Discovery Corp is the company that let CNS in. So far, we know that someone/something let CNS in because Scotty and June mentioned it when we heard them privately talking about the takeover by CNS back in S2 or S3. However, we still have no idea who exactly did it.
we are cns
Skibb
āSomething mysterious is on the horizonā - CNS
I was saying that earlier today, they definitely have a retro/old school aesthetic for sure
What if we never choose a sponsor? That would favor cns who's fighting the Corp- unlocking a secret cns sponsor trackš«Ø
That would be pretty interesting if the developers did that, but I have a feeling CNS might hijack one of the sponsor spots for next season
i dont think people would be too happy with hidden unlockable free content/skins.
Haha, no you're right! But i wouldn't stay hidden for long š
For the ones who truly rebel against the big corpsš»š¤
There is some weird Block on the horizon on Sys horizon- behind campus!
im sure this might have been stated before but it looks like cns is "infecting" all the maps
That would make sense.
hey i found something in sys horizon. im not usually with the lore but this seemed connected to vaiiya
oops i cant put it in for some reason but its the black square with a red dot in the new pack in the item shop. its propped up in the back of sys
Yeah we know, it's VAIIYA
You can see that it belongs to them because it's used in their ad and the new store set that came out
They found CNS finally ahaha next season gonna be wild 100% 
I wonder what the conclusion to the whole CNS world tour thing will be
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who is this mysterious big jim character?
What
Idush
you guys just say anything that comes to your mind at this point
sorry i was farming text for contestant role
....
Schizophrenia lore
Guys something is happening in syshoryzon
There is a vayia grid with the red dot in the sea
Yup we know

Vaiyia Is breaking into CNS ?
VAIIYA was supposed to guard the show FROM CNS and failed miserably so now it's just damage control atp
The malicious vaieye in cys horizon

I dunno if someone has already mentioned it but the share links of CNS teasers from YouTube look like they have some glitches when you send them to someone (at least in WhatsApp). Raise the guy who came up with this brilliant idea
Can you give an example? I didn't understand what exactly you are talking about
Iāll send in dm
i am most likely not the first person to notice this
"Something stirs on the horizon"

So
..::[C]::.. was "Establishing connection..."
..::[N]::.. is "Protocols loading..."
what will [S] be?
||sex update||
Hype
vaiiya trying to break in cnss' mainframe?
cns when square:
but the square is red and is moving !!!!!
it sounds like the alien invasion event isnt planned, based on the voice lines.
When is Marcellus showing up. Cns takeover is happening and heās sitting around twiddling his thumbs. This is my favorite game show and Iām tired of cns having their way every day!!
And thus arc raiders was born from nuclear fallout
Probably something along the lines of āupload completeā or āuplink completeā
around sponsor showdown probably
In the files June is labeled as a co-host, and knowing that Scotty is a previous contestant I wonder who predated them if anyone
Maybe it was just the announcer
Did you guys notice that there's is this black grid of squares with a red dot on SYS Horizon?
(since everyone here seems to like to state the obvious without reading anything mentioned even recently on this thread)
come on you dont even have to scroll up yet
makes you wonder, who's the REAL hacker-genius here?
Perhaps Vaiiya is working for CNS?
June: "Vaiiya recommends rebooting the whole system".
Now this is speculation but what if CNS turns the "Sponsor showdown" into the "Sponsor shutdown"? (see what I'm getting at?)
I know, I'm just sarcastically criticizing people in here. I came to this thread, and read about the vaiiya square 10 times in a row.
HEY GUYS HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE VAIIYA SQUARE ON SYS$HORISON?????????
guys i was playing sys horizon and saw the vaiiya square over the water!
Curious.. what could this mean, surely no one has noticed this before
y'all seen the square on SysHorizon tho
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Why is there a vaiya square on syshorizon?
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
hi
Hello!
Do you guys think Julie is in cns
||Ospuze is a piss||

Me personally the whole Vaiiya grid in CYS could possibly be hinting that Vaiiya is watching CNS closely they let them in on purpose I reckon that the S might be a showdown between Vaiiya and CNS
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start payload? š
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If you mean 'June' then personaly I think so
power shift part 2 electric boogaloo
I feel like the Sponsor Showdown is gonna be when the war will be fought
I personally think it's more likely to be S6, especially since
a) it's going to be a "digital" season (if we get a map, it's not going to be based on a real place)
b) it's a "anniversary" season compared to S2 (S2 of year 2)
c) this way it makes more sense to say "not now, but something will happen soon"
digital? like horizon?
Either way its gonna be fun
ah, what I meant is the main map isn't going to be a real place
S2 had a digital map of Horizon
S4 had a digital map of Fortune Stadium
odd seasons have real places, even seasons have virtual places
and all the real life maps are dogshit with the mexico map setting the bar lower than ever before
what about season 1?
skyway stadium
I disagree
Yes, but Season 1 was the release of the game, so it makes sense they had more than 1 map released
the mexico map is straight up not a finals map you can't even pretend, atleast snow kyoto fixed the water issues and has decent elevation, idk what the in lore philosophy is behind the locations
i think you just make it up maybe we got real life maps
I'm not saying Embark will never change it, but that's how it was for the first year
S2: virtual map
S3: real life map
S4: virtual map
S5: real life map
Is it confirmed? Not really, but nothing points to us getting a real-life-themed map/season
not much info to make it a patterns
it'll 100% be a mirrors edge map next season
Would be cool, but we've been told not every season will have a map so I wouldn't expect one
when
It was on some twitch stream, can't find it rn
was it recent? this season or off hand remark from earlier seasons
I believe so?
They said the game story would come to an end in season 6 anyway
Who or what is cns genuinely asking
central nervous system
only non multico faction in the game
I would assume when CNS says V aCCEPT THE CHALANGE' they mean vaiiya
Yeah, they said on stream before season three they had gotten the story down to season six but nothing concrete over season seven
I feel like I'm being trolled at this point
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but what if no map in s6, no s7 entirely...
They also said that they have content planned through 2030 at the AMA
i mean doesnt have to be a new map, could be a new gun, gadget and stuff
True but it seems that this guy is worried there wonāt be a season 7, I was just trying to put those fears to rest
not sure how you thought it implies the story would come to an end in s6
Nice voice chat
Anyway; Lore question; Which brand is the real fan favorite? Since that title is shared between OSEPUZ and ISEULT
OSPUZE will always be #1
found a black box with a white grid and red dot off the side of sys horizon, off the side of the campus area. I have a ss.
after seeing the blocks that are scattered around the out of bounds areas and such, Im wondering if theyre encroaching on the maps and might change them rapidly- or we have to play around them lol?
It's hte dissun thing
The one true sponsor 
If OSPUZE ever becomes a season sponsor they will take 90%+ of the player base guaranteed.
do we have an actual lore like what are the contestants? are they robots or humans or a huge clump of coins š
anyone with links for the lore
it's a vr game set about 75 years in the future
it's the most popluar game show of it's time
Mainly to my understanding of the lore the contestants are human
Basically to @stable spruce ās point there
think ready player one but with e-sports lol
But the only artificial/robot characterās I can honestly think of within the Finals lore is the CEO of Vaiiya. No oneās seen their face yet along with their whole security implant chip they advertised
probably
we know the whole arena is virtual
And the creepy part being their company phrase āVaiiya, we as oneā definitely gives off Matrix vibes and for sure assimilating the general population
yeah there is a real world outside of the finals called "the meatspace" and we know little about it
only that there are giant corporations that try to sell something to people, isuel-t is fasion, dissun is energy, etc
where did the meatspace get mentioned?
the first time I 've seen it mentioned is in engimo's sponsor pass
it's definitly been mentioned before that probably in a cosmetic's description
Is there info on the lore on the wiki
-wiki yea thereās a page somewhere
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I think rockhoundblack has made a few videos on the lore, not 100% sure tho
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I think they were talking about these in #easter-eggs
no we're all blind here
1st look in the OS of 2100
Next season sponsor : ozpuze vs cns vs [sea. 5 sponsor winner] :kappa:
please just give us some new sponsor
Tristan + x)
dxz sponsor let's goo
Iām calling it 100% CNS will most likely be a sponsor next season if not be part of season 6ās storyline

*dxz sunglasses
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accept no imitations
we are cns
@gentle bronze I made something for you,
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(This took way too long btw)
Very nice
I think its the same, but it may not be on the N
I swear... If one more person asks whether anyone noticed that Vaiiya block in SYS Horizon... SMH
Hey guys, did anyone notice that Vaiiya-
so what's with the 00:00:00
always next to "reach.the.finals" on guns and logos and stuff. i might be dumb
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HEY GUYS HAVE YOU SEE THE VAIIYA SQUARE ON SYS$HORISON???????????????????????????
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super cool
nice
yes cybersecurity
That explains why her CEO Is a freezer, and also why they sell literal chips made for the human brain š
Thanks for the answer! Btw š

no problem 
Someone give me the entire lore condensed in 2 sentences
Nvm someone gave me the lore
-lore
lore?
This game has lore?
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sponsor showdown will be cns vs vaiiya and wt gamemode will be change to team deathmatch
source: it was revealed to me in a dream
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Bore(d)
if they change WT by TDM i smash my computer I SWEAR 
better yet, since it's cns and vaiiya at war, the only logical mode for this would be terminal attack
#terminalattack4wt
that wouldn't be so bad
CNS will be a good competitor to Ospuze, it will be hard to choose one of them

