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wise jolt
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delete light and this game will thrive

light nimbus
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Please can you add a Cashout in to the practice range for us to play around with?

craggy otter
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daily reply.

bronze fractal
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I got an old video in my feed (season 1), and started wondering:

Will the cosmetics for "Recon Sense" medium specialization be made available? or will we have to wait for it's rework? (if anyone remembers it ever existed)

fierce widget
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🚨REMOVE SNIPERS FROM POWER SHIFT

REMOVE SNIPERS FROM POWER SHIFT

REMOVE SNIPERS FROM POWER SHIFT

PLEASE FOR ALL THAT IS GOOD

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE IT CAME OUT🚨

untold kettle
mossy cape
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pike 44 dmg, 2x headshot multiplier

reef lake
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ping issue unfortunately

sudden spire
long vine
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Just to add to this also nerf the m11 the firerate is insane and idk if this is a feature of the gun but I literally was just one shotted 4 times in one game by it

glad pike
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restore og lewis gun recoil and og lewis gun damage

feral ferry
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Remove snipers and bow from powershift

tender totem
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give the mgl the splash damage of the cl

echo panther
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Day 6 asking for a infected mode for the future halloween update with survivors and infected (zombie or what ever halloween skins u cook up) outfits where 2-3 ppl start out as infected having to kill the suvivors and turn them running around with daggers while the suvivors get normal weapons some should be obtainable in the game mode and some outfit purchasable the infected and survivors should get gadgets and important that the infected get 1 throwing knive in theyre gadget slot that can kill a survivor from range

Few Ideas for some mechanics:

-Zombie spawns should be fast
-Once Zombie turns a survivor the suvivor gets infected on the spot
-If the Zombies should not be able to turn anyone give them some type of comeback mechanic at the last 2 minutes or so (stronger,faster, etc.)
-I think multiple fast rounds would be more fun
-Heavly halloween decorated map maybe change the light more dark and griddy

maybe other ppl have better ideas than me would happy to add them

waxen olive
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LET US EMOTE IN THE LOBBY I GET YOU

drifting moss
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take the dome shield out of fucking world tour

ornate widget
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get rid of the dome shields on the cashouts in WT its so annoying

sturdy heron
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hi when I solo queue stop punishing me for having hackers on my team please. It's not like I chose them, maybe you should try penalizing yourselves, or like idk firing the fucking idiot who made this system as a penalty instead of penalizing me. I literally have only solo queue'd for the past 2 weeks idk what your actual problem is

So i should just be mindful that anyone in your community could be a hacker that you were too lazy/braindead to deal with and you just punish me for it, so i should never party with anyone ever, or play any mode with random team assignment (i.e. just uninstall the fucking game)? what a joke

At least tell me who tf it is so i can make a blacklist of people to just ALT+F4 when i see them on my team, this is RNG unsolicited adult content

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tall birch
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Please introduce a 3v3 cashout gamemode! 3rd parties are so frustrating, and they happen in every cashout mode, we need one thats just one on one so the better team wins! I would kill for a tournament of 3v3 games but im sure thats pushing it.

shadow pecan
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Matchmaking:

even though casual modes don’t mean much, it’s pretty annoying to constantly run into trios with thousands of hours playing super sweaty with the best gear and guns.

Can there be some type of matchmaking adjustment in the future that separates newer players from OG? Whether it’s by matches won, player level, etc something of that sort. I get a lot of new teammates as a new player myself and sometimes I run into new opponents but more than not it’s full stacks with like 3000 win Finals profiles popping up on my screen.

It’s not about making it easier, it’s giving new people a chance to learn the game without getting destroyed, and in turn not wanting to play the game anymore.

Ranked takes too long to unlock, to find players of similar skill. I shouldn’t have to sit through 50 full matches of hell just to start playing ranked. Maybe cut that down to like 10-15? If that’s for anti smurfing purposes I commend that, but it’s asking a bit too much from a casual player.

If I didn’t have access to discord or couldn’t make any friends (say a bunch of no mics in chat), what would be the solution? There wouldn’t be one. Think about all players! Game is amazing but I can’t play it until this changes.

rustic tinsel
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Don’t change anything in a weird way, and don’t replace the lunge buff with some other nerf. Just revert sword lunge damage to 140.
Sword was fine.

I’m worried about the upcoming control tweaks. Super dash is one of the few advantages sword has over weapons like DB and Dagger. A strange movement rework or nerf would just keep sword stuck in the same weak state, even with the 140 damage lunge.
Common sense tells us that nerfing just the hit sweep already made sword very weak, and you acknowledged that by reverting it.
In fact, weakening the movement is basically the same as nerfing both movement and hit sweep at the same time, so it’s an even bigger nerf. If that happens, sword will just be a weaker version of the already weak Dagger. You should never make changes that ruin a weapon’s identity.

And restricting aiming during a lunge effectively nerfs movement, hit sweep, and aiming itself all at once, making it one of the worst nerfs. This is like not being able to move your mouse while aiming with a gun. I absolutely cannot agree with this suggestion.

I think suggestions about removing multi-hit entirely are heading in the right direction, but the extent feels a little bit excessive. You at Embark added that feature because you thought it was necessary. But what the sword truly needs is its original dmg and movement. So if I were to make one suggestion: a way to maintain multi-hit while keeping both of those, it should involve making the primary target take 140 dmg and non-primary targets take slightly less. But current 25% reduction is trash. even non-primary targets should take more damage than that.

But, I think just revert sword and melees would be totally fine. You can always buff other weapons instead. Even before the nerf, only a very small number of top players used the sword. Melee has always come with inherent risks, so it never outperformed guns. You guys know that all melee weapons were weak even before the nerf. Melees were never meta.

simple ether
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Delete the Healing Emitter from Powershift! Aps and turrets are bad enough. Then you want to give the class with the most health and the most shields health regen on top of that?

drifting pawn
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give the flamethrower a secondary attack that sprays fuel that can be ignited. allows for setting traps at doorways/hallways/cashouts. it should be relatively visible like a reflective puddle so it can be shot at it to be ignited too. the ignition wouldnt be a long-burning flame but a quick explosive burst like a pyro mine

unreal trench
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Never do a dome shield wt event ever again this shit is so bad I haven’t met a single person who actually likes this shit it’s so dogshit like the dance event was the only cool event yall have ever done just cut the dumbass events nobody likes this shit

sweet oyster
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please get rid of flamethrower literally the cheesiest gun in this game bro every heavy in every lobby no matter the game mode is running that dumbass shit

quick coyote
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Please add some of the popular WT events as map variations in quickplay.

And bring back tripwires and turrets for a ltm 🙃

untold willow
# rustic tinsel Don’t change anything in a weird way, and don’t replace the lunge buff with some...

Sledge dominated the casual and competitive meta (see PHL and any S5 lobby in videos) and the only reason sword didn’t is bc at the time dash didn’t fit the meta cloak playstyle and stun was hard counter.

If you bring back sword with 140 dmg into the game we have currently today, it will be the most oppressive thing in the game since recon.

The game’s ttk has been increased significantly since CB. Powercreep is real and sword and sledge had a bad case of it, no amount of whining will change that.

proud skiff
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PACKET LOSS

why are the servers WORSE than yesterday I keep getting constant Red packet loss now why

hazy vessel
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Get rid of this trash shield wt event

waxen thicket
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do a crossover event with TF2

That's all you need to do for now

ornate sage
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day 16 for more outifit slots please

night steppe
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why does this game crash constantly after s7 release when is it gonna be fix or even addressed

keen karma
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please rework rank system. Why does "very easy" seeding for ruby players lose 150 RS for last place but I lose 1200 RS as a plat?

sonic spoke
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Log into embark account. Remove them there.

pliant granite
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Add "Cashout" to quick play
It is really strange that the "core" mode of this game cannot be played in public match, and the only cashout experience are either World Tour or Ranked, which are not casual friendly at all

leaden peak
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NERF CL-40
im just proud i didnt even buy this crap in my whole gametime, this weapon is a joke.

quick coyote
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Do something about doubling cashboxes it just allows the first team to grief anyone with no fear of getting out of the match.

Make it have something like 5 second interaction to deposit it if you're gonna double it, similar to planting the key in Terminal Attack.

covert peak
sly stratus
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Between the Hit Reg and this newest exploit, I'm sad to be taking a break from The Finals.

dire path
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HEY THANKS FOR PUTTIN 12K KILLS PLAYERS AND GOLD PLAYERS IN WITH FUKIN EMERALD PLAYERS WHO HAS 6K TO 100K KILLS THANSK GAME FIX YPUR DMN SERVER BRUH

lofty tundra
oblique jay
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I want an ice/slowing down effect based gadget/arena carriable in s8

frozen tree
versed sorrel
ocean mesa
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ANTI-cheat is flawless.

Just played a match with a guy who was hitting only headshots from over 150 meters away. Shooting at people through walls and was level 16. We reported him and he got banned mid game and we won the tournament.

This is the second hacker today who was banned mid game. Peak anti cheat.

Note: please do something tho there's been a HUGE increase in hackers lately

thick sorrel
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Do you read your own Patch Notes?

Winch Claw
6.0.0
Added scaling of the stun duration versus Weapons and Gadgets, based on the distance [...]
Increased the maximum Weapon/Gadget stun duration on targets hit at max range from 0.55s to 0.65s
Added minimum Weapon/Gadget stun duration on targets hit at min range (3m or less) of 0.3s

Stun Gun
6.6.0
Re-introduced the Stun Gun after a re-work, it is now known as the Nullifier
5.10.0
Temporarily disabled the Stun Gun

  • Winch Claw added Stun Effect, but Stun gun removed?

Pike
5.8.0
Increased damage from 47 to 50
4.6.0
Decreased damage from 52 to 47
4.2.0
Decreased damage from 59 to 52

  • Everybody complained about +50 Dmg breakpoint with LH1 followed by a nerf. Same with the intruduction of Pike, nerfed it 2x and reintroduced 50 Dmg again - while LH1 got perma busted?

LH1:
7.0.0
Increased damage from 40 to 42
6.0.0
Decreased damage from 46 to 40
5.8.0
Decreased damage from 48 to 46
3.1.0
Decreased damage from 52 to 48
3.0.0
Increased player damage from 49 to 52
1.5.0
Damage increased from 47 to 49
1.4.0
Damage increased to 47 from 45
1.2.0
Damage inceased from 41 to 45

  • 8 Damage changes, ending up with 41 to 42 LOL. LH1 recoil was always harder to control than Pike - TTK bullshit at it's finest 0,60s vs 1,11s / 3 vs 6 Shots (across the map, 45m!)

You wonder people lost the fun to play?

grim herald
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So the dome event is like super wack?

raw blaze
drifting topaz
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  • NERF DOUBLE BARREL

  • NERF CL40

unreal epoch
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Please on god nerf the stupid Flamethrower. It is so common and just the most brain-dead weapon now, I swear

visual bramble
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i have been nonstop crashing on this game for the past 2 patches on pc, i have all my settings set to the lowest graphics and i close out of all external programs on my pc when i run this game too. i haven't had any crashing issues since season 1 and i use an rtx 3060, i also upgraded my cpu so it can't be that either

can someone help or at least tell me if they've also been recently experiencing issues?

fleet socket
narrow spade
sinful prism
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Hello, good evening. My suggestion would be if you could add a language-based matchmaking system, since in my case there aren't many ways to play with Spanish-speaking people in Facebook groups They tend to be small in community, the same thing happens with PUBG, but they added that system that allows greater interaction with people who speak Spanish. Have a nice night.

molten jackal
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Just take Thermal Vision out. It's useless anyways. Give the clucking bunny hopping a penalty to movement as well. It'll make the game a bell of a lot more fun for all of us. (And no, it's not a clucking "skill issue" you bunch of clucking babies, the hit registration in this game is already awful, they spam it and you can't hit the broad side of a clucking planet it you put the barrel up to it and pulled the trigger)

Also, just a side note: when you're in a game and you have one person on a team who goes clucking 40 and 3, they're swinging ridiculous 360 degree, two-second team wipes, all headshots with a sniper rifle at close range (which by the way, there needs to be way more of a clucking penalty/debuff to the quick scoping - just a side note)... that person is probably clucking cheating. You should probably do something about that and clucking ban that person when they're reported, not put me in 5 more clucking games in a row with them.

🐔 🤡

worthy totem
# untold willow Sledge dominated the casual and competitive meta (see PHL and any S5 lobby in vi...

its crazy cuz now we have things like flamethrower that feel just as oppressive with the massive buff it got. Or the range meta we are currently experiencing with pyke and burstpistol on light. idk man game feels bland and weak. we are making everything but the most cookie cutter loadouts not viable. Oh, and the winch claw... atleast once in every ranked game i get hooked scorpion style thrue a wall, a door, or a fucking whole slope... god this game used to be fun but its just frustrating now. and 2/3 heavies run winch now. its just that good.

wooden atlas
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: please don’t nerf anything else, Embark. Start buffing weaker things instead. (The one exception would be winch, which has needed a rework since launch)

obsidian tangle
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Map making tools please I beg I want to make cool looking maps

prime garden
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Hello, I love your game! However, I personally prefer its artistic side over the FPS aspect. Do you think it would be possible to offer a “relax mode” where we could freely explore the maps solo, with the option to choose the original soundtrack?

trail shadow
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Will we ever get badges that display our ranks from S1-S2??

spring stream
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can you guys fking focus on anti cheat instead of new modes every week ass anti cheat make ur own anti cheat like gaylorent

Tired of fighting with these cheaters every fking match in asia

tribal spoke
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Embark please buff dual blades DMG to 63/63 a swing no more combos please. -Signed a huge dual blades fan/main

analog fog
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your servers are such dogshit, its fully embarrassing

unkempt thistle
wispy ivy
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mediums are the biggest crybabies of all wdym

flint oasis
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give me a sniper scope on the dagger plz 🙏

rustic tinsel
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Don’t change anything in a weird way, and don’t replace the lunge buff with some other nerf. Just revert sword lunge damage to 140.
Sword was fine.

I’m worried about the upcoming control tweaks. Super dash is one of the few advantages sword has over weapons like DB and Dagger. A strange movement rework or nerf would just keep sword stuck in the same weak state, even with the 140 damage lunge.
Common sense tells us that nerfing just the hit sweep already made sword very weak, and you acknowledged that by reverting it.
In fact, weakening the movement is basically the same as nerfing both movement and hit sweep at the same time, so it’s an even bigger nerf. If that happens, sword will just be a weaker version of the already weak Dagger. You should never make changes that ruin a weapon’s identity.

And restricting aiming during a lunge effectively nerfs movement, hit sweep, and aiming itself all at once, making it one of the worst nerfs. This is like not being able to move your mouse while aiming with a gun. I absolutely cannot agree with this suggestion.

I think suggestions about removing multi-hit entirely are heading in the right direction, but the extent feels a little bit excessive. You at Embark added that feature because you thought it was necessary. But what the sword truly needs is its original dmg and movement. So if I were to make one suggestion: a way to maintain multi-hit while keeping both of those, it should involve making the primary target take 140 dmg and non-primary targets take slightly less. But current 25% reduction is trash. even non-primary targets should take more damage than that.

But, I think just revert sword and melees would be totally fine. You can always buff other weapons instead. Even before the nerf, only a very small number of top players used the sword. Melee has always come with inherent risks, so it never outperformed guns. You guys know that all melee weapons were weak even before the nerf. Melees were never meta.

thorny lynx
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Hey Embark. Just wondering if the Emerald Badge glitch will be addressed IN ANY way at all by anyone anywhere? Seems to be affecting MANY players, I see tons of bug reports (mine included) without any answers? So.... how about some transparency and a bit of communication with your player base. We should not need to go on a reddit AMA just to get simple responses. I expect more, I expect better. Please do so

sand mulch
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Let other people in the lobby see me spinning my character at 3 billion rpm and practicing abysmal firearm muzzle discipline

versed vault
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NERF WENCH😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

neon ingot
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can you guys remove quick cash in australia so i can play world tour

naive pier
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Lost connection in WT than got reconnected to new WT in different map lol

ionic viper
placid rain
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Yo devs, if possible, if the next LTM that is coming in 24/25th of July, if it is a volleyball LTM, pls make it have Mizty's Ebb and Flow or a variant of it playing in-game in-match, pretty please!!!!!!!!!! It's perfect!!!

fresh mica
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@sterile canopy What am going to do is stop play N spend money on this crap.. hurry and destroy it N run it into the ground, can see it happening, you people don't know about gaming, N how to balance it, I doubt u even play the stoopid thing. People always gonna complain about something, can't you read people are complaining right now, so you remove everything they complain about, and add unnecessary crap, il stick to Call of Duty

tame vessel
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Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the first swing damage in the combo from 65 to 70 making it 70, 80, 90 and increase the spin attack damage to 120

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either give it a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block all melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it's bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

these emojis will highlight the message so anyone at embark can see them 🥇:🤠🤯😵:⚽️:grinning:😆🙃😇🫠

pliant granite
# lofty tundra trolling?

I am NOT talking about Quick Cash
I am talking about the mode they used in preview events (respawn coins, 10-minute round, different values vaults)
It used to be on Quick Play in Season 2, and it got removed in Season 3

finite surge
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Mtar 21 on medium class pls

echo panther
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Either im awful or the DB is just completely busted

tame chasm
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MORE BUSHY LONG AF HAIR STYLES PLEASE

fading flame
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Nerf 93R. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

frail fjord
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I am unsure who to contact about this but I have not been able to play a single match of any kind without experiencing significant lag. Some games are slightly better than others but the majority of my matches are plauged with lag issues to the point where I can't even really play it at all. I've paid for content, so I'm a little bummed I cant really enjoy it. Has been happening since at least begininnig of this season

I live in a major US city, my wifi router is like 20 ft away from my pc (4070 super), and have verified my region.

twilit sand
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Please rework the audio mix. This game has some of the worst spatial audio I have ever played in an FPS. A heavy should not be able to sneak up on me with no sound. As much as the game sucks, Battlefield 2042 is a great example of good spatial audio. Take notes.

cobalt parcel
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Could we get the possibility to change/seperate PickUp/Reload? Its really frustrating a lot of times on console ❤️

thick sorrel
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Do you read your own Patch Notes?

Winch Claw
6.0.0
Added scaling of the stun duration versus Weapons and Gadgets, based on the distance [...]
Increased the maximum Weapon/Gadget stun duration on targets hit at max range from 0.55s to 0.65s
Added minimum Weapon/Gadget stun duration on targets hit at min range (3m or less) of 0.3s

Stun Gun
6.6.0
Re-introduced the Stun Gun after a re-work, it is now known as the Nullifier
5.10.0
Temporarily disabled the Stun Gun

  • Winch Claw added Stun Effect, but Stun gun removed?

Pike
5.8.0
Increased damage from 47 to 50
4.6.0
Decreased damage from 52 to 47
4.2.0
Decreased damage from 59 to 52

  • Everybody complained about +50 Dmg breakpoint with LH1 followed by a nerf. Same with the intruduction of Pike, nerfed it 2x and reintroduced 50 Dmg again - while LH1 got perma busted?

LH1:
7.0.0
Increased damage from 40 to 42
6.0.0
Decreased damage from 46 to 40
5.8.0
Decreased damage from 48 to 46
3.1.0
Decreased damage from 52 to 48
3.0.0
Increased player damage from 49 to 52
1.5.0
Damage increased from 47 to 49
1.4.0
Damage increased to 47 from 45
1.2.0
Damage inceased from 41 to 45

  • 8 Damage changes, ending up with 41 to 42 LOL. LH1 recoil was always harder to control than Pike - TTK bullshit at it's finest 0,60s vs 1,11s / 3 vs 6 Shots (across the map, 45m!)

You wonder people lost the fun to play?

@o.s.0#0000 👍🏻 very wise for an unwise guy 🙂

@fameandfortune.12#0000 I'm not your Bro. Read again, did I ask for any buffs? I'm questioning the Patch notes. Just by numbers Pike is Superior over LH1 - you call it balanced?

Medium shotguns has 2-3x the range vs double barrel. They 2-shot each other. Don't you think with 2-3 more range it's easier? Your arguments are bad.

glad pike
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I think we should double the lewis gun's recoil, but give it the og 25 damage
Deal?

tacit whale
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I have to agree with @thick sorrel The winch is as bad as the stun gun currently. It’s a guaranteed elimination if you are a medium or light. I think you need to remove this effect as the stun gun was completely removed for the same exact same reason except this time it’s worse because the heavy has double the health pool. On a separate note the winch can counter the charge n slam and pull the cashout which is fine but then you need to buff charge n slam by allowing you to push the cash out or something. @sterile canopy who do you thinks gonna win at point blank if 1 player has 350 hp and the other has less than 350hp? Remember that the shak 50 and other weapons like the ks at point blank range, wastes everything so an facr or a v9s at the same range is not gonna be able to do enough damage to beat the heavy’s health pool. You can’t out dps a heavy at close range so it’s not an exaggeration. I used to kill lights all the time when they stunned me because they only have 150hp, it was hit and miss which is why I understood the need for a rework. Same applies here imo.

drifting topaz
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  • NERF DOUBLE BARREL

  • NERF CL40

sterile canopy
gleaming summit
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wow after 300 years of cooperation with Nvidia this appears when you delete the config and have it recreated. "doesn'tt work when turn it on"
Reflex 2 will then be released in 2 years 🤡

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gloomy halo
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Medium needs a solid counter against light, maybe something like a shotgun. Ohh wait!!! they had decent shotguns but they nerfed them to the point where they’re basically useless!! Roll back the Cerberus at least! It’s worthless now, it’s just a fire gadget!

bleak vapor
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Please work on audio cues to help with distinguishing between team vs op. I know a lots going on in the game but damn.

zinc pier
# gloomy halo Medium needs a solid counter against light, maybe something like a shotgun. Ohh ...

The way to counter light is to aim, simple as. If you just hit any shots, you out dps them with just about any weapon. You don't want a solid counter against light, because 99% of the weapon roster already falls into that category.

You want an easy counter against light, which is what the cerberus and cl40 were before they got nerfed. The reason these weapons always seem to get nerfed is because the game devs actually want you to put effort into eliminating an opponent

plush fjord
# thick sorrel **Do you read your own Patch Notes?** __Winch Claw__ **6.0.0** Added scaling of...

Holy shit how is bro asking for an LH1 buff. Its one of the most balanced weapons on light class, just cuz you tried to play with it and couldn't get an elimination doesn't mean its bad and needs a buff.

At max, you could increase its headshot multiplier. Or make it have a faster reload speed.

But mate, stop glazing on lights and shitting on other classes. All you ppl do 24/7 is talk about how "unfair" it is that med weapons are this but light weapons are that.

DB outclasses Cerberus, Model by so many levels. Its so unfair. Cerberus and Model got gutted down but DB still stays up, with minor ass nerfs?

karmic hollow
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Idea: Social rating. Where players can give stars or disrespect to their teammates after the match. I don't think the report system copes well with toxicity and non-verbal aggression in the game.

In one match (HLL), another light did something wrong and the heavy started to torment him using a Goo gun. He shot at him, stunned him, blocked his movement and set him on fire. It was painful and unpleasant to watch. There were 6 minutes left until the end of the match and it seemed very long. After such an experience, I don't want to go into the game for several days. The game is fun to play, but the community is a nightmare.

drowsy mist
drifting pawn
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Idea for a CL40 skin (maybe inspired by the current battle pass vaiiya skin for it): a CL40 RAM stick:

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brisk barn
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Make a prop hunt mode making the player a prop wouldn’t be to difficult you can give the hiders a dash that has 1 use that regens give them a data reshaper to blend in for the searchers you could give them sledgehammer and winch also you could do it like TDM were there’s best of 3 the last one if it comes to it would be random and also for the hiders you could easily program a whistle I think it would be a great mode to break up the game

last saddle
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Yeesh. Aimbotters running wild right now. Please fix your anticheat

abstract elbow
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Crazy unbelievable. Rage hacker in my game, make it to 2nd round, +88 points. Okay fine. Queue again 20 mins later, rage hacker still in my lobby, -653 points as the 8th seed. Just crazy investment of my time to go nowhere. Has embark ever explained how they determine the +/- for games in ranked?

No one wants an "easy" tournament where you lose 2000 points for last place and get +500 for first. No one wants a challenging tournament where you are 8th seed and still lose 650 points for last.

You literally cannot solo queue in this game. No other online game has as big of a solo queue issue as Finals

rustic tinsel
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Don’t change anything in a weird way, and don’t replace the lunge buff with some other nerf. Just revert sword lunge damage to 140.
Sword was fine.

I’m worried about the upcoming control tweaks. Super dash is one of the few advantages sword has over weapons like DB and Dagger. A strange movement rework or nerf would just keep sword stuck in the same weak state, even with the 140 damage lunge.
Common sense tells us that nerfing just the hit sweep already made sword very weak, and you acknowledged that by reverting it.
In fact, weakening the movement is basically the same as nerfing both movement and hit sweep at the same time, so it’s an even bigger nerf. If that happens, sword will just be a weaker version of the already weak Dagger. You should never make changes that ruin a weapon’s identity.

And restricting aiming during a lunge effectively nerfs movement, hit sweep, and aiming itself all at once, making it one of the worst nerfs. This is like not being able to move your mouse while aiming with a gun. I absolutely cannot agree with this suggestion.

I think suggestions about removing multi-hit entirely are heading in the right direction, but the extent feels a little bit excessive. You at Embark added that feature because you thought it was necessary. But what the sword truly needs is its original dmg and movement. So if I were to make one suggestion: a way to maintain multi-hit while keeping both of those, it should involve making the primary target take 140 dmg and non-primary targets take slightly less. But current 25% reduction is trash. even non-primary targets should take more damage than that.

But, I think just revert sword and melees would be totally fine. You can always buff other weapons instead. All weapons have become too weak, so reverting melees and buffing the other weapons would be a much better choice. Devs made the stupid choice to listen to nerf whiners, and that’s what ruined the game more and more. Nerfs are what make the game less fun.

novel trench
torn hull
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Fix the crash on start up

brave dagger
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All the homies dislike low grav
Gameshow events sound fun but often fall flat, either annoying and too impactfull(low grav, orbital lasers, old dead-go-boom) or barely noticeable (mega damage). Problem ones are applied blank slate and hurt non-meta weapons more, like how low grav messes with melee or MGL but meta guns can just beam harder.

The solution is to make them more opt in, but amp them up to be more meaningful in a fun way. Inspired by halloweens alien invasion. What if we combine alien invasion and low grav where the tractor beam applies low gravity in the beam only. This way you can stay out of the effect if it annoys you but can opt in if you want to make use of the effect. Give the events more identity instead of just destruction. Also let them float around cashouts instead of on them, so it affects the fight but doesnt make the cashout too random in procces.

Some other examples:
Meteor showers spawn ‘attractor items’ on the map that focus the meteors to these items. They can be picked up and thrown around.

Orbital lazers gets a console somewhere where players can aim the lazers. Maybe there are several on the map? Maybe players get a 4th gadget that they can aim the lazers with.

Kingmaker event lets you push a button to become marked (like a carried cashbox). But kills you make give double cash (until you yourself are killed, maybe apply a penalty if killed).

Gamemode specific ones like an extra cashbox spawning or inflatable fake contestants (static with 40hp) you can find to put on the power shift platform to help push for your team.

In other words keep em chaotic but give players more control.

frozen tree
sand kayak
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I like low grav

tender totem
fleet socket
magic perch
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Hello i am new to the discord and wished to give my game feedback here
I have been playing the game since the 1st season and I absolutely love this game, it has been more than 1 year since this games launch and it still has some serious issues like multiple bugs and glitches with time i can ignore these issue as they are not game breaking but they still leave a sour taste in my mouth but there are 3 issues this game needs to fix 1st the ranked system is absolutely shit and has been degrading with time.

waxen rover
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Please do something about the AFK/quitters in ranked I get at least 1/3 matches someone basically not playing

zealous sierra
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why my game locked 100 cpu

amber steeple
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got trouble when launching the game:由于服务中断，登录失败。请稍后再尝试SID:d1v5gbk5lmk96m2ukd0g

nova veldt
#

is it really just impossible to stop 3 teams from going to same cash out??

cold bolt
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stop spawning 3 teams on the same cashout it's happened more this season than any other season

leaden peak
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NERF CL-40
im just proud i dont even bought this thing in my whole gametime, Its basically a crutch for people who cant aim or play properly, u should at least have some skill to use this thing which rn isnt required at all

vestal rapids
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4 weeks without the finals at least it feels so good, when i read the feedbacks this is a dogshit game🤣

pure arrow
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So can we consider buffing the Cerberus again? It’s one thing using an off meta weapon in a gun fight when you only had to worry about medium healers. Now using something like the Cerberus against the AKM while the AKM is being healed by a light… you have a situation where you just can’t win that fight. Gun for gun anyway.

signal basin
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Update after S7.5 :

EMBARK ! YOUR GAME IS NOT BALANCED !

Cheaters are spreading and matchmaking is worst and worst

Putting a WT mode for pushing Light is stupid and useless. The class need a buff and you're still trying to boost your data on it to convince you in something that's didn't exist. Boost the DPS of this class. And the mode sucks

Give us an API to check some stats

** thefinals General feedback thefinals**

  • In WT, objective score should give you more point at the end of a game
  • If you do more than 50% of damage on an ennemy, YOU MUST HAVE THE KILL ANYWAY.
  • In pratice game, add friendly fire option
  • Improve your matchmaking in World Tour. No more Solo VS tri-stack
  • Add "steps" in reload animation so when you climb on something during a reload, it's not completely reset.
  • Add a report option " Sabotage " in the report section IG when people leave or AFK on purpose.
  • Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
  • Random charm list for weapons/gadgets. EDIT : Can we just choose our random skin & not all our skins ?
  • We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
  • Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
  • Add the possibility to look at the banner of friends & recent players.
  • **Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match. Like "only M and Dual Blade", "only Light and SR84", "only marksman", "No heal, Light only and grenade only". You can imagine all you want and put it in private match for streamer & their community to make the game more fun **

**⚖️ For balance ⚖️ **

  • Nerf CL40. For real this time
  • Revert the nerf of the XP54. What's the point of putting XP at 16dmg when M11 (an other SMG) do the same, faster & with more bullets ?
  • Rework Nulifier (again) : When you get it by the "Taser" your recoil is increased but you can still move as you want and you take 5 dmg/sec by the electricity during 3 sec. Can hit multiple target when you shoot.
  • You shouldn't be able to right clic sword + dash. This double dash is unfair
  • Increase the hip fire the CB01-Repeater
  • Rework Vanish Bomb. Make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light & it can be use for your teammates too !
  • Reduce the radius of the reflect of the Dual Blade or let us shoot in the feet or something else to let us counter DB when you got an AR like Riot Shield.
  • Nerf the range of the KS23. You can put 100 dmg at 20m.
  • Nerf PIKE to 48 dmg instead of 50 dmg.
  • Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive safer !
  • Winch & lockbolt shouldn't do 5 damages. It's already strong enough
  • Rework the ARN into a real AR ? Slower RPM but much more DMG. Something like the FCAR for example.

The effort to play Light correctly is too damn high compared to Medium & Heavy class. There is no fun at all playing Light. Meanwhile Medium spam with CL40 and Heavy are unkillable with the new heal. When will we see a META with Light ?
Share with us your data on all class. Light are getting vanish by 80% of the weapons in your game and can't get a proper 1v1 without get instant kill. You destroyed the stun gun. You destroyed the XP54. Everyone viable weapons or gadget has been destroyed by other class because they can't track properly an other class with 150HP.

** 🛜 Servers problems 🛜 **

  • Improve your netcode / tickrate or I don't know what ! Dying behind cover it's one of the most frustrating thing in The Finals
  • Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls, doors and farer than it should be
  • Sword, dagger, DualS or all other melee weapon feels unfair when you think you're out of range and die anyway
  • Having good connection = Death behind wall, door & anything else.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time

daring fossil
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i sincerely hope the new anti-cheat can actually detect obvious aim-botters, because this shit is getting old fast.

@edgy glen i dont even think my dash or cloak are level 2 and ive been playing since launch

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edgy glen
quick coyote
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Revolver damage should be upped to 75 at very close range (10m>) so that two body shots can kill lights. Much more reasonable than half of its max ammo.

tulip steppe
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Day 19 of asking for barefoot option for contestants

quick coyote
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Why is XP-54 range still not nerfed it outclasses long-range weapons 😭

untold venture
azure solstice
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Can we have a list of Applicaitons that trigger anti cheat? Our newest team member just got permanently banned and we cant even figure out why. I'm 100% certain he doesn't cheat, and he's really not good enough to justify any suspicious behavior. We did the appeal too and go rejected. I've got too much money in this game to get banned for wanting to change the colors on my mouse or something.

weary pine
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SH1900 is an absolute cancer! No darn gun should have a 0.75sec TTK against a Heavy.

gleaming valley
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everything in this game has been tuned and balanced bad we need a shakeup of changes please this has been the only time in this games history I have not enjoyed playing. Every class has a clear set of outliers and a handful of bad choices making everyone play the same builds. Please add more reserve slots to the slot inflation in this game is ridiculous.

safe inlet
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Hey embark. As a casual I have only one favour DON'T FORCE US TO FUCKING PLAY RANKED MODES FOR WEEKLY CHALLENGES JUST FOR WEAPON SKINS.

tender sail
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Have uninstalled the game, far too many tech issues for me leading to just an angry experience every time. 80% of my deaths happen after I've dashed around a corner (on 6ms full-fibre internet), get killed by random bugs all the time, usually related to destruction and poor server performance.

I hope you improve your systems to make this game functional any genuinely "eSports ready", maybe then I and others with similar views will return

sinful geyser
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please please please add a weapon comparison feature so we can more easily compare/contrast different loadouts

terse hamlet
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WE NEED THE HEAVY STICKER

silk bramble
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Im in fucking Plat 1, and im playing against ROMA WHO IS 30k POINTS ABOVE ME WHY TF IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE

quick coyote
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Does anybody have tips or weapons for controller because i recently got a steam deck but i suck at controller

pseudo latch
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Ability concept: Rubble Raiser

This is an idea that sort of encompasses a little of everything heavy is designed to do, something between charge and slam, winch claw, and mesh shield.

Upon ability activation, heavy enters a half second “wind-up” animation where he gets ready to rush forward. On completion, heavy lunges up to 5 meters in the direction of his crosshair, with the intent of colliding with either structure or a player.

Upon colliding with a breakable structure, heavy will rip a chunk of the wall out, bracing it as a shield. For up to ten seconds, heavy will hold it in front of him as a 500 HP barricade, blocking enemy fire from their knees to their neck. Heavy can move and aim the shield about as if he was holding up a mesh shield during this time, though their movespeed is notably reduced. If the specialization input is pressed at all during this time, heavy will throw the rubble forwards, dealing 100 damage and high structural damage to whatever it hits. The rubble has weight similar to the grav cube, meaning you can’t throw it very far.

Upon hitting an enemy, heavy will lift and immediately throw the enemy the same way they would a rubble chunk, with the same mass. Upon collision with anything, that enemy takes 100 damage. If they hit another enemy player, both take 100 damage. If they hit a breakable surface, they will break through it, taking the damage then. Enemies cannot break through more than one structure per throw. Enemies caught by the throw cannot shoot while heavy is holding them, or until they land.

This specializations short range and requirement to connect will give it decent skill requirement, but high skill expression, and significant versatility in lots of scenarios.

proper wadi
#

Leaf blower skin for the M134 Minigun i beg you

nova mica
nocturne timber
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Why is the finals so laggy on my ps5?
Ever since I’ve been playing this game, it’s been no stop lag spikes every single second,
I tried everything people suggested to me to stop the lag spikes but nothing works
and it so bad that it’s literally stops me from steal a cashout and trying to revive my teammates.

Is there any way to fix this problem?

quartz folio
echo panther
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make a new throwable like a spear or arrow u can pick up with telekinesis and deal damage

tiny lynx
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Option to disable the net shroud on the Hedge Hunter’s top? There’s so many cool headwear combos that could be done with it but unfortunately the forced shroud makes it impossible.

round isle
drifting topaz
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  • NERF DOUBLE BARREL

  • NERF CL40

ripe trail
fluid breach
#

I really hope they fix the cheaters problem for the Esports i would really like to join feeling safe that no one is going to cheat to make it to the top 16

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simple quiver
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Never played any comp mode
Gets put against ruby swf

full lynx
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I just noticed that some of the new merch for the Finals no longer comes with an in-game cosmetic code. Hopefully this doesn't become the norm. :( I thought that was one of the really unique features of this game. It made me more willing to buy stuff. Is this just since they are new and the in-game hasn't yet been created?

dusty igloo
#

Fix griefing, its too damn easy in ranked

midnight bison
#

add some kind of decent sbmm to world tour for gods sake

sterile canopy
worthy totem
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4 months and winch still goes around corners... good job. I guess you gift your employees their salary.

urban oracle
thick cliff
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Delete cl40 from this fucking game we need no goddamn weapon that have explosives shit make this game only weapons and melees bro cl40 getting out of control is ridiculous

cobalt stream
# worthy totem 4 months and winch still goes around corners... good job. I guess you gift your ...

This isn't the winch claw. Its the server and running in a lower bitrate. Plus you could turn as a heavy to slightly turn it as well so skill gapped.

They seriously need to remove kyoto or revamp it. I will not stop complaining about how god awful this map is. They made the nice change that water doesn't slow you anymore but playing that side of the map almost never happens.

Also.. whoever came up with the idea of Dome on cash as well as whoever ok'd it should seriously be considered to be let go. I would be fine with it if glitching it actually did something instead of making it go away for 3 seconds. I understand why glitch doesn't pop it but at least make it so 2-3 glitches actually remove it like when you deplete its HP. Makes super lame playstyles super strong and sometimes just feels unfair to fight against given it has more HP than Mesh.

autumn wagon
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either remove smoke grenade or find a way to turn it into somthing that isn't just a free cashout steal in your gadget slot. There is no skill expression involved with it. there is no counter to it. and there is no reason for it to have three charges.

simple grail
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please make better cosmetics

tiny silo
faint saddle
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Add more animations sets, also for gadgets and placements and inspects if you will

quick coyote
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Does anyone know if this game has a client-side api?

velvet burrow
rigid oxide
#

My current annoyance is wishing that outfits each had their own weapon customization, expressions, and contestant cards

Often I'm wondering what weapons this outfit would sport if it were another weight class, like if I have the perfect heavy weapon to match to this outfit, but I don't want to sacrifice character slots or something.

Similarly, expressions are often tied to the outfit. I generally pick a sponsor for my outfits to represent, and match the sponsor emote for Start of Match

I also saw someone posting in reddit that it would be nice to have an emote selection specifically for the player card

I'm loving this season of WT though, those two points are perfect for convincing people to queue even if we lose

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Unrelated - we've heard a lot about fantasy and medieval season theme interest, I'm begging you to release some kind of pixelfire mythic (like emitting a fire, optionally pixel) set like a halberd skin for spear, some tiefling horns and a nice red tail.

The rest I could do without, magic spell skins for grenades would be insanely cool but I don't need it.

I do need (/j) the final outfit to be elf for basic and tiefling for ultimate 🌹

warm compass
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c4 only one ? why ?

wooden shuttle
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Stop rewarding bad players with the double barrel the cl and the flame thrower its so fucking stupid

charred delta
cerulean pilot
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Why the fuck does everyone in ranked play like they’ve never touched a shooter in their life I got a low rank while carrying every placement game one of them I have 4X my teams kills combined I tried playing the objective but my team never did now I’m in low rank where it’s just that over and over people playing like complete idiots while I top frag and try to carry. Solo queue in the finals is honestly the worst solo queue experience I’ve ever had

verbal moat
hearty bough
fierce skiff
dawn valve
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Congrats Embark, you've once again made a class so underpowered. Lights are so outclassed by heavies its not even funny. Any map that has mostly close quarters (WHICH IS MOST), lights are already at disadvantage with heavy's winch, flame, heal ball, shield, RPG, and FUCKING LOCKBOLT. I'm so done with your bullshit. So WINCH can stun but the STUN GUN is too much? Now EVERY class gets healing, GREAT more health that I need to knock off a heavy. I'm well aware that lights are not supposed to 1v1 heavies, but 70% of their guns can melt a light before we can get even 1/3 or a heavies health, you gotta remember the CANNON part of GLASS CANNON.

  • Remove the stun from winch so you can shoot while winched
  • Make Lockbolt a one tap break, or better yet remove it. You reworked stun gun making it useless, now's your chance again
  • Make heal ball unusable IN COMBAT. Make it something you need to fall back to, not just extra health.
  • Oh and also, make heavy steps LOUDER. The audio in the game is beyond awful when it comes to footsteps. Heavies should be LOUD, yet somehow they manage to sneak up on me
pallid onyx
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yea flamethrower is in heavy need of a nerf but icl playing it in the world tour stop this week has been some of the most fun ive had in a minute

fleet socket
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__Wishlist __

  • Anime face can use all eyes
  • Amethyst challenge for equipment after level 6
  • How equipment gains experience to be known in game (more info tab when looking at overview page)
  • Medieval skins (possibly with a fantasy vibe for a few)
quick coyote
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Customizable sights for SA1216 when?
Model 1887, Cerberus and M26 Matter have sights but the SA1216 doesn't.

hazy skiff
#

buff melee

snow peak
#

yea i’m boutta uninstall this game

flat solstice
grim granite
#

Make matter shotty shoot faster or give it fire damage

dreamy owl
#

nerf fucking knifes and not reload weapons are so ann..

swift nexus
#

Please add wall JUMPING OSCAR OLEASEEEE

pseudo leaf
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Pike needs fire rate nerf and more recoil on its shots. Playing that gun is so easy that it is meta on top rank and if something is meta on top ranks it is easy to use + op. Or just 2 dmg nerf. Which makes the gun need a little help from his team to be same as before.
For winch claw. It has awful hitboxes. Getting winched makes you basically a free kill if only you are not a heavy and you got fully healed by a light. Fix hitboxes, up the cdr for it by 2 to 4 seconds so punishing for missing gets a little easier. reduce the stun duration and fix the no reging that happens when after you get clawed. That no reg is so consistantly happens that i think 90% of the time when i tried to shot the heavy when i clawed i get no reged. It destroys the only way of surviving from it as a light which is nullifier. (that no reging started to happen when you guys buffed the stun maybe it is about that)
93R is probably a little bit strong. But it is garbage at range so idk. Maybe a slight nerf needed.
Others are pretty balanced in my opinion. Buff other than cl and shotguns. Make the meta change a bit.

indigo thorn
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idk why but the game lately lags wau more and also crashs so damn much it's getting annoying

quartz dirge
slow jasper
orchid osprey
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Let us do Sidearm Spin inspection animation with the banana skin

lapis harness
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Add a deny defib option.
Basically if we don’t like being defibbed we can entirety avoid it.
Sorry but the defib sucks. Half the i’m its in a trash spot or 8 ppl are watching you and the best you can do is hope you died with a full mag other wise its just a extra free elimination. An defibs shouldn’t even be allowed in tdm its just easy free points for the other team, because every back up item you would use as any class are on cool down. So your only option is offense with what ever ammo you got or if you can reload all your defensive options are on cool.

proven crown
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Spawns are so bad on Nozomi/Citadel. It happens so often that you wipe a team and then they are waiting for you at the first closest station with the advantage??🤣

edgy glen
proud skiff
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PACKET LOSS
PACKET LOSS

lock.phase has been causing Constant packet loss for many not just me apparently not just xbox. do something, fix the servers. Input lag has gotten worse bc of this

PACKET LOSS
PACKET LOSS

tough sigil
#

Anybody else have an audio bug where sometimes your game just doesn’t allow you to chat with your team?

foggy haven
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Hey Devs, Idea for a new casual game mode, MOUSE & CAT : Only cashbox, no cashout terminal. The more you carry it, the more you get money. I already do this in quick cash, it's adrenaline provider guaranteed

west glacier
brittle abyss
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can someone please just fix this broken match making system for World Tour? I've had 7 games IN A ROW with ultra sweaty, diamond and ruby teams and Alternative accounts destroying lobbies. and i'm playing with a full stack, no solo queue. this was the first time i straight up rage quit mid game. im am so done with this BS

dire kernel
torn hull
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Can't bootup the game because it crashes every time and no trouble shooting method fixes it.. This only became an issue after the 7.3 update

leaden peak
grave bane
#

Once again asking for Functional bipods

weak swift
#

Give medium a flashlight that flashbangs enemies

inner walrus
#

fix the fucking latency

simple ether
#

Between the healing emitter and aps, powershift is busted af rn.

fervent shuttle
#

weapon suggestion : m870

coral turtle
#

when private chat with teammates

drifting topaz
#

  • NERF DOUBLE BARREL

  • NERF CL40

untold hazel
uncut void
#

Idk who has to hear this but the stuttering and lagging in the game is getting out of hand. I can’t seem to find a way to play a single match where the game isn’t just lagging constantly.

worthy totem
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This has to be the worse season to date... game feels in shambles. every single section of the game had a big problem, and its not even enjoyable anymore.

mortal notch
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game ass buff game

Day 81 of asking for guns/gadgets until they get put in the game

Heavy:
Weapon:double barrel nitro express eg: W.J. Jeffery .450
Gadget:A deyploable mesh shield but much smaller

Meduim:
weapon:A smg such as a p90,scorpion evo,ppsh-41,Thompson etc
Gadget:A healing drone similar to lifelines but its just a shield that can be moved whilst on the gadget slot (the little ipad) this could also be on heavy

Light:
weapon:a lebel model 1886
Gadget:a m79 thumper
spec:a neon like movement spec but SUPER fast look to STRAFTAT for refrance on powersliding etc

other things:
BUFF SWORD
fix SBMM it is not fun solo queuing into stacks and it is not fun playing as a stack agaisnt solo ques
IBMM and mnk support
re introduce nukes with lower scaling damage for each item connected and allow breach charges c4 and mines to be used
pike nerf
famas nerf
remove winch and rework it
focus content events etc we have gotten less and less content with every season
FIX FOMO utimate battlepass and the wheel is blatant fomo

tidal parrot
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Day 359 asking for barefoot contestants

brazen swallow
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I think a barett .50 cal for the light that knocks them back but can also double as an extra jump across large gaps would be cool

wispy plank
#

where

rare shoal
#

please give the scar 30 bullets

trail grove
#

Add a Doctor/Nurse Outfit please, as a medic main i need to have my character look like a medical professional. PLEASE

umbral swift
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Pike-556 doing more than 49 damage on a bodyshot is overpowered.

Literally every single time in this game's entire lifespan a DMR has done more than 49 damage on a bodyshot, said DMR has been overpowered:

  • LH1:
    • Was buffed from 49 to 52 damage on a bodyshot in 3.0.0.
    • Deservingly hotfixed in 3.1.0 back down below 50.
  • Pike-556:
    • Released at 59 damage, was obscenely overpowered.
    • Took 2 patches to nerf it to 52 damage, solving... literally nothing.
    • Took another 4 patches to nerf it below 50 in 4.6.0.
    • Got reverted to 50 damage on a bodyshot in 5.8.0, undoing the entire point of the nerfs.
    • 6.0.0 nerfed... falloff, solving... literally nothing.
    • 7.3.0 nerfed... equip time, solving... literally nothing.
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bold ocean
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Stills feels bad to play due to spawn and hits not registering half the time along.

icy shuttle
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Make combat score a real metric
Kills and assists shouldn't give combat score bonuses
Combat score should show somebody's damage, stolen kills shouldn't show in combat score too

plus it'll make it easier to track damage for contracts that ppl haven't tracked

sonic spoke
#

game is horrible right now wth team

tropic briar
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The servers need a serious improvement plz

maiden anchor
#

NERF CL40

rocky path
#

There should be badges for S3 World Tour!!

lament grail
inland seal
#

Nerf everything, getting killed sucks and is unfair

odd ibex
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Add kusarigama for light OR MEDIUM class,primary attacks hit like sword but alt attack is u spin the chain and blade 160 degrees in front of u and most damage ONLY where blade hits NOT the WHOLE CHAIN,it’s skill based cause u hold down alt and the more u hold the longer u throw and only the blade part damages when spinning plus u can move your aim while spinning to make blade go in that direction,a mix of projectile and melee.

To simply put it,the melee alt is more like aim and shoot but use aim to move the blade and hit box.

There r two ways of implementing this,either the melee projectile starts from an arc from the left side and goes to the centre line and move as u change your aim or the projectile starts from the crosshairs and moves where u move your aim

U may change between the two using a different stance using the weapon inspection button or add more combos using that button.

Either u can’t use light spec when using alt or give this weapon to medium with a wall run gadget or else it’s the most dull experience chasing player as a medium

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jagged vector
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I haven’t played ranked in many seasons and just started playing again because of the stupid world tour event but question why are you hiding other teams rank? Is it because no one fucking plays ranked and your game is slowly losing player base to play ranked that other players might be higher and you’re tired of people complaining about it so you tried to cover it up and instead of addressing it?

lunar reef
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Im concerned about quick cash. To preface this quick cash has always been my favorite mode because it allows me freedom to play the signature mode of the finals without having to waste an hour in a tournament mode(because Im pretty good and that would happen often) Even when the xp in quick cash was nerfed I remained playing it and grinded it cause It was genuinely addicting to me.

To start the spawns changes felt like such a bandaid fix to me. I'm sad its been left the same even though theres been tons of the community saying its ridiculous..I still have to change the camera view to be able to switch my loadout after death..so I often get stuck in the same loadout cause the 7 seconds is faster than you think to change to what you want.. And its become so unrewarding to actually beat a team who went out of their way to try to kill you now, just to have them spawn close/fast enough to punish you/third party the cashout. Or even spawn close enough to fight on cash before you even get there..and my condolences if youre playing heavy in quick cash. You can get hounded down over and over again if the team cares enough to go fight you instead of going to the obj lol..

On top the new changes a ton of the spawn decisions are wild still. Ive had moments where I spawn with an enemy about 10 meters to my left. And I can tell they just spawned with me too. And ive even had whole teams spawn on top of me like not even 5 seconds after I just spawned..

Im wondering if you guys are chill with the mode now?? is this really the final plan for quick cash?? Its tough to see the mode changed for people who wanna run it down like tdm just for them to not even play quick cash..Its tough watching the mode you love be changed for the casuals who literally wont care how the mode plays.

slow jasper
raw blaze
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can we have the option to disable the profanity filter for party chat? It means it's in an enclosed environment not for randoms to see things like "lmao" or "damn" because for some fucking reason those are censored

native stream
lapis harness
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Add a clip and no clip outfit option. One keeps it how it is where if a item interferes with another it removes/doesnt allow the combination . The other allows us with lots of cloth options to layer and make some crazy cool looking contestants well adding a little uniqueness to each player.

wind pumice
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fix false bans?

wheat torrent
narrow belfry
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Fix the connection problem PLSSSS I just lost a game due to my whole game freezing and stuttering nonstop

dusky plume
#

take this fucking dome shield world tour modifier out please bro

sand parcel
#

a Capture the flag game mode would be super fun

cursive plank
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Weapon:Gunblade
Class: Heavy
M1: Slow swing speed dealing 100 damage (essentially sledgehammer m1)
M2: ADS (has 4 shots each dealing 20 damage, cannot headshot, hitscan, ks accuracy, slow firing (essentially model rpm))
I feel like there should be a melee option that can account for range. Putting it on heavy might make it have competition with sledge. I know winch exists, thats why it cant really kill anything fast unless its a light.

quick coyote
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When are we getting proper audio? for example steams spacial audio, audiokinetics wwise, or fmod
I feel like I cant hear the direction of sounds at all and even with a 7.1 setup, it still all sounds the same.

(dude below me finds out in a team focused game having good teamplay is important shocked pikachu face)

errant crater
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PUNISH 3 STACKS IM GOING AGAINST COORDINATED 3 STACKS IN WORLD TOUR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT

BUFF THE SOLO PLAYER OR SAY GOODBYE TO UR DWINDlING PLAYER BASE

novel trench
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My name is Dwindling Player Base and I'd really like to see a shoeless option for my Goth Medium, thanks. If the footsteps could change to the pitter patter of bare feet on surfaces too that'd be great.

cyan sable
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"request to join party" button.
Need I say more.

solid isle
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Lock phase absolutely killed world tour. Normal people all quit the playlist when that mode dropped and now it’s all people who don’t play anything other than this game. It’s unbelievable that the actual ranked mode is less sweaty this week than world tour

signal cosmos
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praying for a Martini-Henry in either The Finals or Arc Raiders

young scroll
umbral bobcat
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kinda the point of an fps, is to aim and shoot

thick sorrel
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Do you read your own Patch Notes?

Winch Claw
6.0.0
Added scaling of the stun duration versus Weapons and Gadgets, based on the distance [...]
Increased the maximum Weapon/Gadget stun duration on targets hit at max range from 0.55s to 0.65s
Added minimum Weapon/Gadget stun duration on targets hit at min range (3m or less) of 0.3s

Stun Gun
6.6.0
Re-introduced the Stun Gun after a re-work, it is now known as the Nullifier
5.10.0
Temporarily disabled the Stun Gun

  • Winch Claw added Stun Effect, but Stun gun removed?

Pike
5.8.0
Increased damage from 47 to 50
4.6.0
Decreased damage from 52 to 47
4.2.0
Decreased damage from 59 to 52

  • Everybody complained about +50 Dmg breakpoint with LH1 followed by a nerf. Same with the intruduction of Pike, nerfed it 2x and reintroduced 50 Dmg again - while LH1 got perma busted?

LH1:
7.0.0
Increased damage from 40 to 42
6.0.0
Decreased damage from 46 to 40
5.8.0
Decreased damage from 48 to 46
3.1.0
Decreased damage from 52 to 48
3.0.0
Increased player damage from 49 to 52
1.5.0
Damage increased from 47 to 49
1.4.0
Damage increased to 47 from 45
1.2.0
Damage inceased from 41 to 45

  • 8 Damage changes, ending up with 41 to 42 LOL. LH1 recoil was always harder to control than Pike - TTK bullshit at it's finest 0,60s vs 1,11s / 3 vs 6 Shots (across the map, 45m!)

You wonder people lost the fun to play?

@double barrel yappers. The effective range is like 3 meters! Every other Shotgun 2-Shots Lights twice or triple the distance. Not to mention the CL-NoAim-40...

edgy glen
zinc pier
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If you put the same effort into getting better at the game as you do into these kinds of excuses, you wouldn't be complaining that its embark's fault for not giving you an instant win button when you lose to a player with more skill than you

violet elbow
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  • remove Thermal from Light
  • remove goo from medium
  • make winch not go trough shields
  • giga nerf DB damage, buff its reload again
  • buff fcar by 1 damage
  • nerf Pike by 1 damage
  • tune down 93R firerate slightly
  • buff heal beam, let people sprint while healing
  • Add a small (1-2s) cooldown inbetween demat charges
  • remove the ability to double cashouts
  • Nerf 22k boxes to 20k
  • remove a knockout round from ranked so Rubies arent matched into plat lobbies, literally stopped playing ranked because all I do is stomp people that are significantly worse than me at the game.
ionic viper
cobalt parcel
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Dear Embark,

it would be so awesome if we could turn on Damage to players in the Practice Range!

And So awesome that you made it possible to go there with your whole team ❤️🙏🏼❤️

drifting topaz
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  • NERF DOUBLE BARREL

  • NERF CL40

dark niche
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can we get a mag swap button for the arn & sa? also buff daagger pretty ples

uncut hedge
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nerf arn, controller players dont miss so funny

young drum
quick dew
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day 20 of asking for engimo embroidered hoodie on the merch store

raw bobcat
echo panther
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Day 7 of asking for a infected mode for the future halloween update with survivors and infected (zombie or what ever halloween skins u cook up) outfits where 2-3 ppl start out as infected having to kill the suvivors and turn them running around with daggers while the suvivors get normal weapons some should be obtainable in the game mode and some outfit purchasable the infected and survivors should get gadgets and important that the infected get 1 throwing knive in theyre gadget slot that can kill a survivor from range

Few Ideas for some mechanics:

-Zombie spawns should be fast
-Once Zombie turns a survivor the suvivor gets infected on the spot
-If the Zombies should not be able to turn anyone give them some type of comeback mechanic at the last 2 minutes or so (stronger,faster, etc.)
-I think multiple fast rounds would be more fun
-Heavly halloween decorated map maybe change the light more dark and griddy

maybe other ppl have better ideas than me would happy to add them

quick coyote
#

hello

vague maple
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Heavy weapon and gadget ideas.

Brass knuckles

  • 60 damage light attacks, 3 attack chain, 3rd attack doing 80 damage upper cut, knocks players into the air(Small amount)
  • 100 heavy attack, charge for .5 seconds, leap forward attack.
  • Does decent structure damage
  • A little faster than attack speed than spear, 50% faster.

Brick

  • Its a brick
  • Does 70 damage, can headshot dealing 140 damage on a headshot.
  • Same speed and trajectory as alt throw of throwing knives.
  • 20 Second cool down.
light nimbus
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Please add a cashout station to the practice range for us to play around with

Please add a button in practice range to toggle friendly fire

celest estuary
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Give Goo Gun to medium as a gadget and Zipline as an ability to Heavy.

grim violet
# thick sorrel **Do you read your own Patch Notes?** __Winch Claw__ **6.0.0** Added scaling of...
  • Winch requires the heavy be a good position/rat spot which is much more difficult thanka light just cloaking/dashing in and throwing away their life for a CC. Balanced because the heavy has terrible base speed and isnt in aggressive positions to use it usually.
  • Changing the LH1 a bunch is weird but its in a fine place right now, and id argue the pike is more difficult thank the LH1. I've never needed to learn the recoil lol
  • CL40 is a bit too strong vs light right now, but then again cl40 nukes your effectiveness vs medium or heavy, its a tradeoff.

These are some terrible takes and you seem to feel like a salty light player, ngl

subtle gull
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skill based match making. @pearl kiln why would you put people in a game with only 50 wins against a player with 97k kills. oh i wonder why new players dont like to keep playing this aweful game

supple mortar
#

Im really hoping you do well with sword in the next update. Please just revert the damage and nerf the cleave.

slender abyss
#

-feedback

spiral lightBOT
#
Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
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⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
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⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
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slender abyss
#

-reports Here's how to report players. This channel is for feedback about the game, we don't promote witch-hunting on our Discord server pet_marshall_1

spiral lightBOT
#
Report suspicious behavior <:magnifyegg:1111293374897590292>

Have you seen suspicious behavior in-game?

Send a report through the Social menu (ESC -> Social or press P). Press the icon near the player's nickname to report them.

If you want to make a video report, go here: #video-player-reports
You can also send detailed reports to our support team: LINK

topaz jungle
#

Y’all should probs turn off replies while you’re at it, your community is tearing itself apart

tribal depot
#

hdr support

brave dagger
#

The game is currently in a good state with the ammount of weapons we have. We have a breath of weapons all with identities and strenghts and weaknesses. If we look at onboarding vr prices are now lowered which is a much needed change. Its easier to pick up then before which is a big plus!

I propose an additional idea that helps with onboarding players and also intuitively explaining some of the balancing philosophies behind the game. Seeing how the game is rock paper scissors gameplay where certain weapons preform better against certain classes.

If we have 3 weapons unlocked for each class right out of the gate. And each of those weapons is good vs one of the classes in the game (weapon a vs light; b vs med; c vs heavy). It would help new players immensely when they struggle versus a different class. It would be a good idea to state per weapon which class it preforms well against.

At the same time we can reflect which weapons should be starter weapons. Because for example light starting with the sniper riffle enforces bad practices for new players thinking this is a viable playstyle in most matches. But after 7 seasons we can state that this very niche.

Onboarding sets the tone for how a new player views the game so we want to be as clear as possible in setting expectations and explaining how to play the game on an intuitive level.

EDIT: Id like to add that its probably a good idea to reset healing as mediums default spec, it allows new players to make an impact while being guided by seasoned players since they are inclined to stick to those players. It gives them a way to make an impact without having major game sense right away.

abstract elbow
#

The Finals should have less text censorship than a 3rd grade classroom. Not every word needs to be changed to **************

waxen solar
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Does anyone know about this disconnect exploit. Ive been disconnected but thought it was my internet. I cant find any details online about it. If i dont know what to look out for how can one report it.

frank holly
#

Oddly specific request,

Can we reduce the down time of the 'function flip' inspect animation of the Pyro nade?
I want to juggle it faster! 🙂

leaden shell
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i loaded up wt then cancelled then still got a game somehow..made it to the finals and finished that game and still got suspended...wth>

lyric basalt
#

Hi, I don't know if I'm in the right place, but I've returned to the game.

I saw that the first versions of the season pass are available. So I bought season passes 1 and 3. How do I collect points? Can I buy both equally, or do I have to buy the entire contents of season 1 and then season 3?

And it's going so slowly that it will take me years ;D I don't have the XP bonus, and to get it, I have to buy the current season pass and do the side quests. Please help.

foggy haven
fickle linden
cloud mulch
#

hi

paper oak
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game still sucks, balance, fake afk's players, poor optimized.
not recommended for new players, alot of lights sweats ruins casuals.

dense agate
#

Not sure if this has been more seen yet but I STRONGLY encourage someone on the embark staff or dev team link this within their group and watch it in full. digesting all of the information here. in this video.

https://youtu.be/Gl_ykSqaeBY - "THE FINALS - How Can We Fix The Eternal War Between Gamers and Developers?" by HeavyEnjoyer (in case you dont want to click)

It is extremely informative and it is really helpful for getting back into the player to developer connections again from where it currently feels like they are now.

waxen thicket
# thick sorrel **Do you read your own Patch Notes?** __Winch Claw__ **6.0.0** Added scaling of...
  1. Nerf SH1900, it's been even more oppressive than Sledgehammer and 1887 in terms of tremendous burst damage.

Yet somehow they got nerfed out of meta but not SH1900. Only reason sword lights didn't complain much about their damage nerf was because most of them just swapped to SH1900 instead, found out how op it really is, and moved on quietly.

  1. Buff LH1, it's just a straight up worse version of V9S now. Just look at the stats:

LH1 vs. V9S
42 vs 40 damage and
50m vs 10m range,
should be better at longer range, right?

except,

15 vs 20 bullets per mag and
270 vs 360 rpm, meaning

You just need to land 1 more shot with V9S to close that gap at long range with LH1, and thanks to that extra mag+rpm, it's completely effortless. Now LH1 is just a worse V9S that gains a teensy weensy bit damage for significantly worse hipfire and recoil.

round isle
#

I think change and slam should bump contestants similar to the way samus takes damage in the old Metroid games. They should be bumped away and made slightly airborn and dropping down in place. More often than not contestants are just dragged by charge and it feels a wonky. Also there should be a ring around the heavies feet only visible to the heavy so that they can tell at what angle the contestant is being bumped at.

magic perch
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The ranks system needs a complete overhaul the way it distributes point and assigns teammate is insanely bad,I understand this game cant have SBMM but the way the system assigns difficulty e.g very easy,easy,intermediate etc is most of the time completely wrong i have multiple time played easy game that are more tough than challenging games another issue with this form matchmaking is that even if you win the 1st round of tournament you might get -ve points if you get out of the 2nd round of the tournament(sometimes u get -ve points when u come 3rd also) + the points you get are so wildly variable like for the same difficulty level for e.g intermediate you might get 50 points for coming 4th and sometimes you get 250 points and the matches feel the same in both case scenario this all pls need to change (if possible make the points system a scale of 25 or 100 not 2500 pls)..I have no clue why we cant change weapon in between match(in ranked) the same way we can in world tour pls add this quality of life change it would help a lot.2nd issue with this game is respawn points and everyone knows about it(it has improved with time and i wont discuss about it a lot ).3rd issue with the game is performance i get 80-90 fps in low setting(minimal movement) and it drops to 50-40 fps between heavy fights optimization for laptop gpu is highly required.Overall i would rate this game 10/10 for the casual experience and 4/10 for ranked and a grand total of 7/10.
I will continue to play this game and enjoy it but not in ranked now and i hope as the the the finals esport tournamet comes closer adjusment will be made in rank cause advertising the game in esport and having this bad of a rank system will give it a bad image.

sterile canopy
fathom sparrow
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why are my weapon skins reseting every time i join the game

haughty lintel
#

cake skin for exposive mine

glass pendant
scenic kiln
tepid summit
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Hey if you devs are balancing based off of spreadsheets and numbers can u guys stop please, can u balanced based off of feeling and making the weapons feel fun to play, and so what if some things become over powered by a little, its all chill

pseudo leaf
#

Average match of soloq ranked. This only happens when you soloq diamond+. I made a smurf account to test if i will ever get diamonds or rubies while being plat. It never happened but it happens a lot when i soloq in my ruby account.

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unreal zodiac
#

Spear is the most unique and fun melee experience ive had in a competitive game ever

peak forge
#

Dematerialiser need rework.
My friend noticed that people often don't use charge to materialise wall back.
And i personally think that Demat makes Heavy Destruction useless, and makes Light no able to run away from Medium at all.

Demat Rework should have 1 charge only which recharge like 7 seconds. And Remat should be free to use.

(Or nerf Demat by increasing time it takes to switch from Demat to other equipment)

random garden
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demat^ medium is already the weakest class rn and demat is their best pick, this would be a huge nerf. Also if you cant get away from a demat medium as light its either a pathing issue or your running cloak at which point you made that sacrifice yourself.

balance changes: make the finals fun again.

the earlier seasons were just more fun because of how powerful each sub-class felt…

id be happy dying to something strong if i had my own niche strong way to desolate a lobby

lean into that A-symmetry yall talk about

most players didn’t fall in love with this game when it was “in a pretty good balanced state like it has been as of recent”

They fell in love with specific play-styles (probably when they were busted) The game feels mostly balanced atm but at the expense of the fun we had in seasons 1-4. I feel like i need to be on adderall to secure 90% of my kills

gleaming summit
hot mica
#

Please, make it so you don't find the same random twice in a row, or at least not in the same team. We ended up with a random that, seeing us, quit immediately and we were going to do a whole ranked tournament in a team of 2. Also, while we're on the topic, make it so the tournament does not start at all if players quit. Abandoning the match, we got a penalty

raven garnet
#

how do you determine the pricing for the same class of rarity? cause 300 is legendary. honestly wtf. also the Loop-De-Doom skin. you rebranded it as mythic but doesn't have any special inspects or anything. so more inconsistency with your new class of items.

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gray flare
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remove kyoto from the map pool
remove kyoto from the map pool
remove kyoto from the map pool
remove kyoto from the map pool
*post below makes a good point. keep it in power shift and remove it from everything else

dark patio
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Bro why it’s probably the finals most beautiful map and it’s good for powershift

edgy glen
drifting topaz
#

  • NERF DOUBLE BARREL

  • NERF CL40

dusty beacon
#

^agree

glad pike
frozen tree
# waxen thicket 1. Nerf SH1900, it's been even more oppressive than Sledgehammer and 1887 in ter...

Have you not seen the complaining about sword? As a sword main myself I’ve dabbled in SH1900 but I’m still drawn to sword for its fun movement. Also, SH1900 doesn’t need a nerf, it’s strong but also high risk and you can just play around its low range. Weapons like the model and sledge need a buff to be viable again. Also, buffing LH1 risks it being meta again and I don’t think anyone wants the LH1 meta again.

ionic plover
#

Hello plz add mouse and keyboard support for ps4,ps5,xbox

thick sorrel
# waxen thicket 1. Nerf SH1900, it's been even more oppressive than Sledgehammer and 1887 in ter...
  1. SH1900 is already on the edge between playable and trash.

Sykogene made a good summary:
I dont understant people asking to nerf double barrel
1 works only in very close range
2 require high skill of movement and ability to hit the 2 shots, you cant spam if you missed like the cl40
3 the reload time makes u open so you need hide somewhere
4 doesnt work on 3 stacked enemies
5 very bad in certain open maps

I would also add, that everybody who complains about double barrel would suck with it and wouldn't perform as good as with SMG or whatever.

Btw.

  • Sledge needs no aim and has literally more range than double barrel.
  • Model has >15m range and 2-shots lights.
  1. I compared LH1 with Pike and Pike much superior. V9S Pickrate feels similar bad as LH1.

Conclusion: Pike needs 49 Damage or significant lower RPM.

@glass pendant Unfortunately they didn't learned because they overtuned Pike and CL-40.

cold idol
#

Just my 2 cents but the CL40 has become the most annoying gun in the game. It's far too easy to spam which allows users to 1. create chaos without the limitations of gadget or pickup effort/restrictions 2. initiate a broad range of AOE damage across an opposing team rapidly 3. And can do so endlessly and repeatedly in quick succession. Allowing players to have that much impact without even needing to be wholly accurate feels wrong.

harsh plinth
#

watergun H+ infuser

upper bridge
#

Idea: Refund token.
Token can be used to refund any cosmetic bought in the last 30 days.
3 tokens max, refilled at every every start of the month.
Using one of these tokens will grant the player the amount of multibucks that the chosen cosmetic is worth,
and that cosmetic will be removed from their inventory.

scenic knoll
#

Please embark don’t listen to the try hard head hunting sweat lords. This game is turning into cqc battlefield if you do. Let the game embrace its chaotic clunky nature, don’t give in to these aimbot Cheeto keyboard Lardos. Make the finals great again

cerulean flower
#

ok - hear me out

"Frisbee Skin for one of the mines + Frisbe throwing animation" Bundle

steel hound
rich brook
sick forum
rich brook
#

or that you already own parts of the bundles of which the shoes are cheaper

copper blaze
#

Make it so placeable gadgets get placed in the nearest possible location if the exact place where you point does not work.
With the amount of objects, rubble etc. it happens a lot that a gadget can't be placed in time.

plush fjord
#

You need to bring back some really cool glitches as features in the game.

  • Grappling on propane canisters
  • Goo plane
  • Using turrets on flower pots and climbing on them to fly in the air (Would like all classes to be able to do that if their teammate has a turret.)
  • Placing jump pad on a roof above a cashout station, then dematting the roof to make it fall onto the cashout station and launching it in the air.
  • Riding on top of propane canisters
  • Taking down the Kyoto tower, and charge and slamming into it to launch it into the air. Same thing with suspended structures.

Wacky Stuff like that. Just make sure that you tweak them a bit to avoid making them OP, eg: the demat beneath jump pad technique made the cashout station go out of the entire map, instead make it go high but not too far.
Thanks Embark, keep cooking.

echo urchin
#

All 5v5 modes should be made into 6v6 modes.

it’s annoying to play a game in a five stack and want to split off to play WT or ranked but you have to decide who gets a full stack and who has to wait for a third or deal with a rando.

6v6 Cashout should replace Quickcash

  • Appeal to casuals: when you’re part of a larger team, you feel less pressure to perform well; it gives you more room to make mistakes, run off meta or unfamiliar loadouts, or even just goof around a bit.
    • Furthermore, because it’s 6V6, the casuals are still introduced to the chaos involved in normal cash out tournaments, even though they feel less pressure to carry.
  • Appeal to vets: some really interesting team compositions emerge in power shift and terminal attack, and those of us that have been playing the game for a while or who play the game a lot would be interested in seeing how these compositions changed the dynamic of attacking or defending cash outs. It also changes the Meta of the game mode. When you only have three people on your team, you can’t afford to have anyone choose an off meta loadout, but, when you have six people on your team, suddenly you have more wiggle room for flex picks or hyper specialized picks.
  • This game mode would also allow people, with more than two friends, to group up and play the quintessential game mode together.
    • Players stick with a game longer if they can build a friend group or a community within the game; that is incredibly hard to do when the main mode only allows you to team up in groups of three.
nova mica
# pseudo leaf Average match of soloq ranked. This only happens when you soloq diamond+. I made...

Brother… did you not read anything they said about ranked? You’re coming off very brain damaged here.

Rubies can queue with plats.

If you party up with your friend, whoever has the highest rank, that’s what rank the lobbies will be.

Those two were partied up together and match making in plat lobbies. They have the same clan tag if you use your eyes and brain together.

You could queue with a bronze player if they queued up with their friend who was plat.

This is a matchmaking strategy implemented by ANY game with ranked you can think of.

If you party with your friend, the lobbies will be the highest rank.

Use your 👀 and 🧠 next time

quartz folio
sacred siren
barren silo
keen tartan
#

I keep saying this again and again. Please rework all weapons that use in-game physics. Such as throwing knives bow arrows ect. Your servers are too laggy and it's too inconsistent! Please change this!!

tidal radish
#

#Ps5 is there an easy way in game to invite people for #clubs other than #discord?
#EmbarkStudios TY 🙂

untold hazel
#

Yk what pmo the chat on playstation it cancels at every fucking instance i type a whole sentence uh oh it cancels
(Also fix servers)

unkempt cloak
pearl ledge
#

Yooooooo these late games are getting crazy last minute last second even end screen.

worthy totem
#

winch claw still goes around corners and works in the air... 4 months of this shit.

pseudo latch
#

Ability concept: Rubble Raiser

This is an idea that sort of encompasses a little of everything heavy is designed to do, something between charge and slam, winch claw, and mesh shield.

Upon ability activation, heavy enters a half second “wind-up” animation where he gets ready to rush forward. On completion, heavy lunges up to 5 meters in the direction of his crosshair, with the intent of colliding with either structure or a player.

Upon colliding with a breakable structure, heavy will rip a chunk of the wall out, bracing it as a shield. For up to ten seconds, heavy will hold it in front of him as a 500 HP barricade, blocking enemy fire from their knees to their neck. Heavy can move and aim the shield about as if he was holding up a mesh shield during this time, though their movespeed is notably reduced. If the specialization input is pressed at all during this time, heavy will throw the rubble forwards, dealing 100 damage and high structural damage to whatever it hits. The rubble has weight similar to the grav cube, meaning you can’t throw it very far.

Upon hitting an enemy, heavy will lift and immediately throw the enemy the same way they would a rubble chunk, with the same mass. Upon collision with anything, that enemy takes 100 damage. If they hit another enemy player, both take 100 damage. If they hit a breakable surface, they will break through it, taking the damage then. Enemies cannot break through more than one structure per throw. Enemies caught by the throw cannot shoot while heavy is holding them, or until they land.

This specializations short range and requirement to connect will give it decent skill requirement, but high skill expression, and significant versatility in lots of scenarios.

magic perch
# sterile canopy What do you want them to change about the ranked system? What you describe is en...

1st I believe the difficulty assigned to the tournament shouldnt purely be based on the rank of the contestant as i said earlier in my comment easy difficulty assigned tournament feel more tough than challenging difficulty assigned tournament.2nd the disparity in points provided for same level of difficulty at the same position is insane for e.g in intermediate difficulty you get -70 points +250 points coming there should be uniformity(across difficulty level).3rd the counterpicking is a necessary evil it gives more freedom to player I am not asking to let us pick any weapon/gadget i am asking to pick our reserve weapon/gadget this exists in world tour and no one complains about counter picking there + if couter picking is this big of an issue limit reserve pool to 2 weapons/gadget in betwwen the match unlike the standard 4 reserve gadget/weapon

ebon gust
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Hey! Quick question, if I lost RS because of a false "System Integrity Violation" flag which kicked me out of my game (it was false because I immediately was able to load back up after), is it worth it to contact support with video evidence for the RS back? Or would contacting them not be worth it and they wont do anything?

I am in high Ruby, so losing 600 RS is like 2 and a half games of wins. Not a nice loss!

My in game name is SuitedDash!

sterile canopy
# magic perch 1st I believe the difficulty assigned to the tournament shouldnt purely be base...

So what should it be based on, if not the enemy's skill?

The disparity in points is correct. With what you're suggesting the system would be mathematically unbalanced, it would fail completely.

It is evidently not necessary. For as long as weapons have explicit counters all this really does is further disincentivise their inclusion in higher elos. Limiting the pool is a comprimise but I see no reason for it to be a superior route.

leaden shell
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can we get some goo gun skin like maybe a caulking gun skin or even a toothepaste toob or something lol

uncut hedge
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that dome in WT is garbage

waxen thicket
# frozen tree Have you not seen the complaining about sword? As a sword main myself I’ve dabbl...

I have seen complainings about the sword, but they were nowhere near the amount of backlash after the Sledgehammer nerf. As for Model 1887, it has always been good at deleting lights but now is quite bad in 1v1 with other mediums and heavies. Many 1887 users now exclusively use it as a support weapon where teammates can provide just enough damage to kill the enemy with 1 less shot.

If Embark wants to prevent the 1887 and Sledgehammer from having that burst damage potential, then not nerfing SH1900 is just straight up hypocritical and unfair. Either buff back 1887 and sledge, or nerf double barrel alongside them.

@yulaw.z1#0000 Almost everything you mentioned about why SH1900 is not that good, is worse on Sledgehammer, because the heavy has no movement in the first place to close the gap, and being a melee weapon you obviously deal 0 damage to anyone beyond range unlike an actual gun. Sure it's better against groups, but the heavy attack got nerfed to not hit more than 1 people anymore so it's not like you can dive into a triple stack and get out alive easily, like it used to be.

I personally use the SH1900 a lot, and have secured many kills from 20m or so on low health enemies running away. It's a shotgun, yes, but still a gun that can shoot people unlike the Sledgehammer, which becomes completely useless without winch or charge even at half the range. If you seriously think Sledge has more range than Double Barrel, then unfortunately you're not very good at either of them.

And V9S and LH1 has equally bad pickrate because they're semi-autos. Automatic weapons and single-fire weapons are simpler and easier to use, and so will always be picked over even a slightly better semi-auto weapon, especially by light players who care more about getting frags than wins. LH1 should not be buffed because it's bad, it's still quite decent, but rather because the V9S can do that more cleanly.

@scenic kiln read it again, slowly

boreal meadow
winter falcon
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Please for the love of God, change the amount of points you get for old BP because right now 3 matches of WT for 1 point is crazy ngl, 5 per game should be good enough

scenic kiln
potent pawn
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release The Finals Snyder Cut

quick coyote
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I love NOZOMI/CITADEL but please optimize it, even Kyoto gives me more frames.

tough sigil
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Embark should add a party channel for voice chat, and a game channel for vc. Depending on if you want to only chat to the people in your party. Just like fortnite has this feature

pseudo leaf
# sacred siren What's wrong with a plat team being qued into a diamond lobby?

Plats don't know the game even at the base level and there is a gold but most of the people in diamond don't play it that well anyway. Like i said i know this because i soloqed to diamond with a smurf like 2 days ago. Got to diamond around 8 hours of ranked. I know what i am talking about + @nova mica said "This is a matchmaking strategy implemented by ANY game with ranked you can think of." yeah buddy i bet in other games you are gonna get in to a ranked game and get your random team mates as mid to low rank players while being at the highest rank that game offers... I know they are duo. They don't want this too. Reddit mod ass heavy main...
At max it should be high plat so i don't need to baby sit them all the time. + I don't care that much about getting low ranks because it will make my seeding lower. Just this doesn't makes sense.

An example for plats don't know the game is when ever i was smurfing all the time i got pinged or some one typed to come back to point cash out. But they don't understand that all the teams are at other cash and if i don't do something about the other team they will have more cash than our team. So i need to help the other lower cash teams to get their cash (griefing some may say) or get cash by kills to be the first place on cash amount. Which makes doubling or even spliting safer.
Trying to explaining simple stuff in this discord is idiotic.

pulsar jay
# nova mica Brother… did you not read anything they said about ranked? You’re coming off ver...

this really sucks when you're solo queue climbing though, i think it's been 4 times this season some guy that doesnt care about their rank queues up with their silver/bronze buddy in ranked and tank my score, being effectively down a teammate is a miserable experience for that third player and at the highest levels can be a guaranteed loss

the going against highest rank enemies is good but putting a silver on the same team as a solo queue ruby is what's bad

silent turtle
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Dear Devs,

Please take another look at the reload cancel mechanics for the Winch and KS23. Right now, winching without racking the slug is way too punishing, and the racking animation is already slow on its own. This feels like a coding issue, possibly a blanket rule applied to heavy shotguns that prevents reload canceling through winch or melee.

To be honest, I don’t believe the claims that some players have “figured it out.” I’ve spent close to 100 hours using the slug and have tested just about every scenario. As developers, I strongly encourage you to actually play The Finals more, especially with the KS23. Go into the practice range or the new one versus one arena and try using the slug against the light bot. Lights cannot dash in that mode, but even then, they either outrun or outmaneuver the KS23 with ease. The combination of slow fire rate, awkward handling, and poor accuracy makes it nearly impossible to win those fights.

The KS23 is fun. It is satisfying to use when it works. It is also one of the game’s oldest heavy weapons, and right now it feels completely neglected. It has not been in the meta since Season One, and it struggles in most engagements. That is disappointing.

For over a year now, the heavy shotgun has been left at the bottom while other classes received buffs they did not necessarily need. Yes, this game has always had a skill gap, but balancing weapons purely based on popularity without addressing core mechanical imbalances just pushes the heavy class further out of the equation. Since Season Three, heavy has arguably become one of the highest skill roles in the game, but it has not been supported accordingly.

Please give the KS23 another look. A small adjustment to its reload logic or responsiveness could make it not only more viable but more enjoyable for everyone involved.

Sincerely,
The TheadoreBonkers - longtime heavy player since beta who wants to see the slug back in fighting shape

wooden kelp
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It was pretty cool at first, we get a voiceline for people to request revives but please provide an option to turn it off.

Especially in Power Shift, its extremely annoying people spamming it and you having to focus on multiple things happening at once. It's distracting at at times, they will be back in a few seconds as well.

tardy pendant
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Something I think we should have as well is more quick communication while you’re dead. Taking inspiration from Splatoon 3 here, when you die you have the option to announce either “Ouch” or “Booyah!” before you respawn. I frequently use the former one to announce to my team “there’s still people over here”, or “danger, don’t go this way”. Even the second one has some uses, like announcing “This area is clear, good job”

Being able to have a few quick communication options upon death would be nice and help with coordination, especially to those on console who can’t easily use text chat. Being able to announce things like “Watch out”, or “Enemies here”, or even something along the lines of “He’s at 1hp” or “He’s low” could help out quite a bit. The only option I have that’s close to this is pinging for a revive in TDM to try and tell my teammates there are people near where I died

placid parrot
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This current WT events blows, no one likes shooting shields all day. Don’t add this to the main game pleaseee

manic spruce
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The fact that I can't say fuck in the in-game chat is the dumbest thing. Is this somehow a Christian game? lol

stuck garnet
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we should start a petition to remove kyoto from the map pool in general because the maps design is very poor along side the destruction and layout no one likes this map and it playes horribly. there is no need for rework just delete the map. tha bamboo forest is horrible, there is like no vision in the map everything just falls apart after one red barrel it needs to go embark please do something about it cause everyone hates it

tender totem
dawn valve
# waxen thicket I have seen complainings about the sword, but they were nowhere near the amount ...

Regarding the V9S and LH1, the problem is that the two guns have some much situational overlap that its hard to buff one without making the other useless. The V9S suffers MASSIVELY from damage falloff, which is something I think should be fixed. It can't compete with most autos at close range, but past 15 meters its a peashooter, and since its a semi-auto you'd THINK that it would do better at range but nope. The LH1 on the other hand has a 55 meter falloff, with slightly higher dmg at the cost of RPM and mag size. Personally I think the LH1 should be upped to 45 dmg and the V9S should have an effective range of at least 20 meters.

abstract elbow
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THIS is the worst part about ranked. 1/2 only to gain RS? Stupidest thing ever. I solo queue in ranked and go against three 3-stacks and I lose RS unless I get 1st/2nd. No one enjoys these games. I would rather a 5 min queue to get a game where I can enjoy playing in it than this

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novel trench
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Please return the option to disable the chat filter.

grand ferry
edgy glen
fervent shuttle
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day 8 ,please embark add custom quick melee animation

drifting topaz
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  • NERF DASH

  • NERF DOUBLE BARREL

  • NERF CL40

quartz dirge
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unironically nerf v9s the day the playerbase finds out about how fucking broken the gun is is the day this game finally dies

rotund gust
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I hope next week you change the descend and ascend binds for controller 🙏

honest verge
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Pike is suddenly popular. It feels like every season lobbies orbit around a different fotm gun with some other less popular choices sprinkled in.

It's a shame with such a diverse roster of loadouts.

grim herald
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Dome event is wacking my socks off and not in a good way

old minnow
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When will we be able to swim

faint saddle
elfin helm
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PLEAS DEVS, REMOVE THE HIDDEN DEAD ZONE ON THE FINALS THX, LET PRO CONTROLLER CONTROLL THEIR STICK AND SHOOT THX,

proven crown
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Hard to Express how rubber bandy and dodgy the moving platforms feel when you have high ping. I think they either need to be slowed down or removed entirely because I'll jump on and it looks perfect on my screen but I'll just fall through💀 I think it's important for the developers to experience what the platforms feel like when you have higher ping, it's surely not acceptable.

Also please customize the maps to have less verticality for TDM - some of them play so badly at the moment, especially fortune stadium with the jump pad

untold venture
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gut winch (the root of all evil), increase DB reload speed and buff melee back so people stop crying and the game will be in a good spot balance wise

uncut void
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Embark if you are reading this, please fix the servers. The packet loss and lag is getting out of hand.

last saddle
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So if another team is 10 seconds from winning, can matchmaking not be a pile of shit and, you know, NOT throw me into that match on the losing side for a free instant loss? Like that garbage is almost as annoying as the nonstop botters that the anticheat continually fail to detect.

modern wedge
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im still crashing due to ue5.. not everyone can afford to have a crazy expensive rig please just allow an actual
otption to bring down graphic

tranquil galleon
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"They're not aiming, they're selecting!"
"kill streak, more like a kill statement!"
"Quad kill! Someone's getting promoted!"
"Four lives gone, one smirk earned!"
"That's not a fart, that's a shit!"

pls change i cant even turn it off by setting announcer volume to zero, just make better ones pls

glad pike
long knoll
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Please for the love of God can we get glitch mines for heavy? Or light? It is insane that the only class that can deny the defibs is medium. Glitch grenades are technically an option, but I have to stalk the trophy waiting for them in order to use it, while another medium can throw a glitch mine on and stall the process way more effectively

thick sorrel
# waxen thicket I have seen complainings about the sword, but they were nowhere near the amount ...

Stop comparing apples with oranges. Double Barrel loses agains Model, Cerberus and SA12 (, even KS-23 is just as fast with 20m range) - all have more range and kills equally fast and are much more forgiving in regard of magsize. Your Complains = Skill Issue

Seldge is no competitor with his multihit and destruction ability. It's not same category. Compare it to sword. Funny enough that sledge is still picked (thx to winch claw/goo gun) while sword got dumped.

fathom otter
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this matchmaking is so ass man im so tired of playing against premades that only play this game, and infest WT the game either needs a complete overhaul how the sbmm works or make a solo que only.

pliant tulip
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okay. i have a simple suggestion/request.

EVENT ITEMS. as we all know there is alot of funs events where you get cool rewards!, make them return!.
see the blast off event items i was unable to get due to literally being in the military and only having around 30 minutes a day to play a round or two.

but since the items where free, make them be a lower price then they would be in the store for their rarity. lets say the Legendary Tiger hat from the heavy hitters event, instead of being the usual 800 for a legendary, be 400 or 600 somewhere around that ball park.

it would also help players not stress so much about the Fomo stuff. as well know Fomo is really bad for a game.

Rewards For Helping

and another suggestion. Reward people who give suggestions that actually get added to the game.
be it a small cosmetic or multi bucks. rewarding actual feed back is always nice! and allows players to actually want to give real constructive ideas!

royal jewel
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crack idea, what if cerberus and db swapped builds? I think the "hit and run" playstyle encouraged by cerb's burning fits better with light movement

tribal spoke
twin remnant
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why are people allowed to leave a wt game and not dc after an entire round

shell lotus
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yall ruined the m11, fix it now

fast lion
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I wrote this earlier and I hope embark reads this message.
Defibs need a rework like stun gun. They remove any agency from the game. It's a gadget that dictates how you have to play, a one way thing, you use it and it works the way you expect it to work.
It's a toxic gadget as the person who is getting defibbed has no control over getting defibbed and has a 50/50 chance of either being defibbed at the right time or at the wrong time and dying again. So instead of it acting like a revive it should actually work only on alive teammates and give them some sort of a benefit that they would much rather prefer than a 50% hp revive with 7 second cooldown on specialization/utillity.
If it was reworked to a useful utility people wouldn't feel bad for missing out on more utility because their teammates are toxic if they don't pick defibs.

simple ether
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No one likes Low Gravity. They never have and never will. Why in God's name is it still in the game?

proud skiff
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PACKET LOSS
PACKET LOSS

lock.phase update broke servers. constant yellow and red packet loss w yellow red server. its getting worse
Fix the servers

PACKET LOSS
PACKET LOSS

twin orchid
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I’d just like a sensitivity multiplier for mesh shield on controller. It’s so slow to hold out and turn and feels slower than my actual sense. Would be very appreciated. Please and thank you in advance!

grim granite
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I never got my broadcast blace m26 skin. Anyone know what to do? it was a twitch drop

jaunty tulip
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what is this defender coin i spawned max distances

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echo urchin
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All 5v5 modes should be made into 6v6 modes.

it’s annoying to play a game in a five stack and want to split off to play WT or ranked but you have to decide who gets a full stack and who has to wait for a third or deal with a rando.

6v6 Cashout should replace Quickcash

• ⁠Appeal to casuals: when you’re part of a larger team, you feel less pressure to perform well; it gives you more room to make mistakes, run off meta or unfamiliar loadouts, or even just goof around a bit.
⁠• ⁠Furthermore, because it’s 6V6, the casuals are still introduced to the chaos involved in normal cash out tournaments, even though they feel less pressure to carry.
• ⁠Appeal to vets: some really interesting team compositions emerge in power shift and terminal attack, and those of us that have been playing the game for a while or who play the game a lot would be interested in seeing how these compositions changed the dynamic of attacking or defending cash outs. It also changes the Meta of the game mode. When you only have three people on your team, you can’t afford to have anyone choose an off meta loadout, but, when you have six people on your team, suddenly you have more wiggle room for flex picks or hyper specialized picks.
• ⁠This game mode would also allow people, with more than two friends, to group up and play the quintessential game mode together.
⁠• ⁠Players stick with a game longer if they can build a friend group or a community within the game; that is incredibly hard to do when the main mode only allows you to team up in groups of three.

vivid lava
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Anyone down to run wt need one

warm zealot
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Bring back CB1 white suit

errant mortar
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Please make the Data Re-Shaper good again, it's so incredibly boring now.

verbal kayak
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Any plans to address smurfing? The matchmaker is making "fair" lobbies but they're all level 40 with 50 wins and are very obviously smurfs. The matchmaker tells me that its an "easy" lobby but every game has at least 3 smurfs in it. Since its an "easy" lobby, when I lose, I lose 1000+RS. When I win, since its an easy lobby, I gain 100ish for coming third, and sub 500 for coming 2nd. How do you think this is ok?

mental blaze
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I feel like goo grenades need to have a shorter animation, there's been so many times where they kill me from full health before the goo even leaves my hand.

frozen tree
worthy totem
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38k-40k solo queue. 5 games in row where i go 10+ kills and in the end dsnt matter cuz when the game has 2 min left i got the 3 Teams with 3 different lights hounding us for double cash and then doesn’t matter u lose. 1 game where i am first seed and the 2 randoms left minute 1. I get into a game with 4 heavies and 3 have winch to drag me thrue corners, walls and bridges, has a 1 second stund and lingering hitbox. 70% of the médium population is using pyke which 3 taps lights in any spot in less then a second. This is the only season where i am so numb to the game play that it wouldnt surprise me if i see a world tour shield in a ranked cash. Ngl, it’s impressive how bad this feels, crazy this the best free fps on market. I am open to any recommendations.

sharp scroll
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Here in oceania, we really need the ability to multimode queue. Currently we're stuck in quickcash unless we go out of our way to organize

fleet socket
marble creek
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Hey, embark, do us all a big favor and make the penalties for leaving matches (which makes it nearly impossible to win at that point and ruins the game for everyone else) bigger. Like, bro, every other match if it's going even a little badly someone leaves and we suffer for it... make it a day ban, a week ban, something, im begging you. Punish players for ruining the game because they act like babies

molten jackal
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Okay, a few notes from tonight's play. The range on the flamethrower could stand to be nerfed a bit, but the damage could use a buff. Nerf the damage on the charge for heavies (one-shot on a light with this is a bit much). Nerf the turrets man. That crap is super OP. Make it a burst or something. Right now it's just forever fire and accurate as F.

rustic tusk
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Buff the riot shield. it is much weaker than the duel blades at this point

soft rain
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please keep queueing me against top 500 lvl 100 140k kills when i have 10k kills. this really makes me want to keep playing

radiant harbor
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Fix double meta. It's way too easy for the team in first to double. At that point, nothing any of the other 3 teams did matters, and it's not fun.

rugged vapor
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Hello
So for me personal, in my opinion, I like the hardcoreness of this game. Ive been playing since season 3 and Im on my way to gold rank and its crazy.

So for me Ive never encountered something that I thougth was overpowered. I often think the game is good the way it is. When I get smashed with the hammer its because its a hammer. Sword and rpg same thing. I follow the patches and I dont like when something gets nerfed because people complain about getting killed by them.

The fact that you have to yell at the tv is part of the game. Its part of what makes it so good.

quartz folio
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You are supposed to hold hands it’s a better way to survive. Sure getting flanks but if you can’t win your 1s then it makes sense to stick close to the team

rustic tinsel
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Just revert the melees and buff the other weapons. Reverting melees and buffing the other weapons would be a much better choice.

If you try to run an e-sport with the current state, it will definitely fail. E-sports need to be exciting to watch. Who would want to watch a boring pattern where players just shoot at each other from a distance until someone finally makes a mistake and dies, and only then the real action begins? That kind of slow, drawn-out pacing is boring.

You say Increasing the TTK emphasizes "teamwork"? No. That just means the weapons are too weak to do their job, so players are forced to gang up on enemies. When clutch plays become impossible at higher tiers like they are now, how is that going to make for a good e-sport? It won’t. At the very least, players need to be able to clutch sometimes. If one teammate goes down and the rest just have to fall back and wait for respawn, or get helplessly wiped out, that’s not good e-sports. That’s boring.
If you’re seriously preparing this game for e-sports, then fix the balance first. E-sports scene where only a few “usable” weapons appear isn’t fun. Revert and buff melee, and buff all underperforming weapons so we can see more variety in competitive play.

A strange movement rework or nerf would just keep sword stuck in the same weak state. Don’t change things in weird ways. You should never make changes that ruin a weapon’s identity. Stop trying to balance by nerfing everything. You haven’t even succeeded with that approach. Nerfs aren’t fun. The game needs to be fun.

Back in Seasons 1 and 2, people were having fun, and the player count was at its highest. The game was doing fine back then. But people left the game because cheaters weren’t dealt with in time and were left unchecked. It wasn’t because of the balance issue (excluding Nuke). Devs made the stupid choice to listen to nerf whiners, and that’s what ruined the game more and more.

hexed frigate
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I think thermal vision its okay but it needs some buffs to be more "competitive" like if you deactivate thermal, the cooldown start refreshing the amount you spend, not since begining, needs more signs for some things, like mines, its imposible see mines using thermal and something to identify gas but let you see through it

worldly pumice
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isnt thermal part of pro league meta lmao

dark niche
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buff dagger and reshaper,, nerf db & cl!

indigo fjord
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I'm feeling the game has some lagging to explain.. even though my wifi is doing alright, feel like the server lags

edgy glen
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The barricade desperately needs quality of life changes

the only real reason to use it over goo nades is that it can be deployed faster, but any prop/object near its vicinity will prevent its deployment often getting you killed while you scramble to place it down.

It should ignore basic props like flowerpots, destroying them if placed directly on them, along with being able to be placed on contestant trophies, pushing them away.

Its also annoying trying to place it on a tight hallway/ledge since even a smidgen of it colliding with a wall prevents deployment, you should be able to place it down while its clipping slightly into a wall, or it should automatically readjust to be placed to the closest available spot, like the deployable shields from R6.

storm leaf
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Stop nerfing everything please, atleast make the melee actually viable, people will always be angry at things they are bad at countering but that does not mean they need to be nerfed. pleaseeeeeee. even adding new stuff to counter what people are complaining about is much better option then nerfing something, I love the CHAOS of the game and the constant nerfing of weapons is also nerfing the Chaos

dire path
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Get rid of the double barrel

thick sorrel
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Do you read your own Patch Notes?

Winch Claw
6.0.0
Added scaling of the stun duration versus Weapons and Gadgets, based on the distance [...]
Increased the maximum Weapon/Gadget stun duration on targets hit at max range from 0.55s to 0.65s
Added minimum Weapon/Gadget stun duration on targets hit at min range (3m or less) of 0.3s

Stun Gun
6.6.0
Re-introduced the Stun Gun after a re-work, it is now known as the Nullifier
5.10.0
Temporarily disabled the Stun Gun

  • Winch Claw added Stun Effect, but Stun gun removed?

Pike
5.8.0
Increased damage from 47 to 50
4.6.0
Decreased damage from 52 to 47
4.2.0
Decreased damage from 59 to 52

  • Everybody complained about +50 Dmg breakpoint with LH1 followed by a nerf. Same with the intruduction of Pike, nerfed it 2x and reintroduced 50 Dmg again - while LH1 got perma busted?

LH1:
7.0.0
Increased damage from 40 to 42
6.0.0
Decreased damage from 46 to 40
5.8.0
Decreased damage from 48 to 46
3.1.0
Decreased damage from 52 to 48
3.0.0
Increased player damage from 49 to 52
1.5.0
Damage increased from 47 to 49
1.4.0
Damage increased to 47 from 45
1.2.0
Damage inceased from 41 to 45

  • 8 Damage changes, ending up with 41 to 42 LOL. LH1 recoil was always harder to control than Pike - TTK bullshit at it's finest 0,60s vs 1,11s / 3 vs 6 Shots (across the map, 45m!)

You wonder people lost the fun to play?

@double barrel yappers. The effective range is like 3 meters! Every other Shotgun 2-Shots Lights twice or triple the distance. Not to mention the CL-NoAim-40...

alpine summit
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Asking to get a buff for the AK and Fcar on medium, I use to main Fcar and now I have to main AK due to the K having more ammo. The body shots on the fcar feel weak at certain ranges especially close so I think a buff in damage (just a little), range, and maybe even another magazine buff would help the fcar just a little more I also think a faster fire rate could do amazing things on both weapons for medium

rare vessel
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Make the opponent's player card visible for the entire duration you are spectating after being killed please.

light nimbus
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This season has been runied by bugs
the game has NEVER been like this in previous seasons
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Embark take a few weeks to focus purely on fixing bugs and polishing the game back up to its previous high standard even if that means delaying other stuff

Bugs are incredibly frustrating - Thanks! hug_friend

brisk falcon
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  1. bring back the gigachad stun gun instead of boring nullefier
  2. make more og styled maps like monaco and/or seoul
  3. fix packet loss, 7/10 of my deaths are behind walls
  4. nerf medium granade launcher, just lowering splash damage a bit would make it far more balanced
  5. either increase Pike's recoil or decrease LH1 recoil
drifting topaz
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  • NERF DOUBLE BARREL

  • NERF CL40

terse lark
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please make the glitch nades disrupt or break the defib statues. glitch nades are already good and even though this would probably make glitch nades even better defibs still dont have a counter besides having a defib yourself so the enemy team cant just trade then defib. besides, if there is more counterplay around defib you devs can actually make getting defibbed feel good again and get rid of defib sickness bc why should i be penalized bc my teammate decided to defib me instead of manually receiving me.

fleet quiver
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I haven't played this game in a week and god damn it feels good to not touch this stupid fuck ass game

this used to be one of the best games of all time (I hit 1200 hours in around a year) and you guys completely fucked it with some of the worst balancing decisions known to mankind. I'm just glad I overcame my stockholm syndrome

hollow kelp
plush fjord
# brisk falcon 1. bring back the gigachad stun gun instead of boring nullefier 2. make more og ...

Most "I am a light" ahh comment.

Increase LH1 recoil. Stop nerfing weapons, but buff others up. No need to nerf pike's recoil.

They already nerfed CL40. Its normal now, has low clutter, balanced damage. stop crying for nerfs ffs just because you lost to CL40 or something and you now think its OP. And lowering splash damage is the dumbest take ever for a gun that shoots grenades. (guess what grenades do high splash damage). People will never stop whining smh.

Stun gun was a shitty, no skill gadget. Never bring it back. All ppl did with it was sneak up behind and press a single button to almost immobilise the opponent (if u think it doesnt immobilise you go to the finals community wiki and look at stun gun's stats).

PS: Try using CL40 urself. Its a high skill weapon that needs high damage/ high reward. So before crying for nerfs try to use the weapon urself.

cobalt kernel
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Nerf the Emerald grind.. Remove the whole Emerald 4 badge tier plus add 1 or 2 additional points per tournament

Nerf winch cringe back to 10m and lessen stun duration, it's absolutely miserable unless you just so happen to play evasive dash

On that note i would suggest replacing E. Dash with another ability or at the very least reduce it to 2 charges, to balance it out maybe increase distance traveled per dash

Powershift is unplayable, getting matched all day every day against the same full stacks of tryhards (VSRAT,POWER), can;t get a single match in against random people

Nerf max. ammount of Barricades that can be place to two per player...

Buff breach charge fuse time

Buff Reshaper recharge time greatly

Buff pyro nade AOE

Nerf Demat recharge time

Add iron sight to sniper, increase hitscan range

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warm zealot
#

Bring back CB1 white suit🗣️

magic perch
# sterile canopy So what should it be based on, if not the enemy's skill? The disparity in point...

A persons rank is not the only factor which determines his skills that is why i said it should not be purely based on rank factors such as k/d accuracy etc(which are also utilized in matchmaking in different games) should also be used.I do understand it would be mathematically unbalanced but game design is both science and art and embark has created the most accurate scientific method for point allocation but looking at this discord thread we can see that a lot of people hate it(I am clearly not the only one talking about the point issue a lot of people dont like it).I believe weapon/gadget swap gives higher level of creativity to player especially in a game like finals where there is no hard meta and as I said earlier if counter picking was that big of an issue people would complain about it in world tour+you can limit the reserve pool for swap to 2 in rank

potent solar
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playing pc with crossplay on had horrific lag vs it off. game freezes and it puts the brakes on my mouse movements (or just ignores them) even though icons are not showing.

also people still be cheating, pros included.

you should allow more spectators or have a stream from each players pov in spectator mode so we can see the model outlines and all the walling. (do this for each qualifier)

they may not be able to cheat at lan but they will be (ARE) cheating to get there

sterile canopy
# magic perch A persons rank is not the only factor which determines his skills that is why i ...

It is the only factor which measures their skill. K/D does not measure skill, due to the existence of SBMM and the fact that killing is not the objective of all modes but TDM. It would be much worse to matchmake based on this!

I think you do not understand that the system will literally collapse if you add any significant imbalance to it. You would either have rapid elo inflation or deflation, which is not acceptable.

I’m not really sure what this has to do with creativity. Strategies to counter certain weapons are not exactly something one has to be imaginative to understand and simply make the balance worse. It’s an issue if any player wishes to run one of those weapons in a competitive environment.

waxen thicket
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Please, nerf SH1900 damage from 1315 (195) to 1115 (165) per shot. This would make it actually require point blank range to be effective, and require a quick melee to finish off a heavy just like dagger backstab.

Currently with it's absurdly high 390 damage per magazine, I kill lights at 15-20 metre range even with just 1 shot. This is not because I'm very good, this weapon is just that OP. I personally don't even try to go point blank anymore, the tremendous damage lets me kill all enemies from a safe distance, which also lets me escape and reload easily.

This nerf would not really change the stk, but rather it would make the SH1900 users actually get close to get the kills. Sure against Heavies it would no longer 2-shot them, but at that range you can just finish em off with a quick melee just like a dagger backstab.

Speaking of dagger, even that don't get to finish off Heavies with a proper backstab, yet the SH1900 can from any direction. That's not very cool now, is it? Sure the SH1900 forces you into a poke playstyle, but that extra damage really makes engagement at midrange easier than they should be.

You guys nerfed Cerberus, Sledgehammer, 1887 and even the Sword for their massive burst damage, but you left SH1900 as it. As others have already pointed out, the double barrels are simply too oppressive in its current state, so nerf them asap. You don't have to cater to the popular streamers for every balance change, that's not very healthy for the longevity of a game.

next wren
vagrant river
#

Separate dress cosmetics into two pieces (upper and lower body) as opposed to the current full outfit system, it's terrible. For example, season 1's dark ballerina skin. Using the top for an outfit would be really fun, and having the skirt as its own piece opens up extra options as-well. More headgears should be compatible with face accessories, for instance the "Descartes' Demon" item not being compatible with glasses/half face masks is an actual joke, why would the mask (positioned on the upper right of the head) overlap a mask that only covers the nose and under? Makes 0 sense.

Also, nerf aim-assist or light as a whole.

mint zodiac
frigid frost
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how is possible that i have to match against 3 rubies on a "EASY" seed on 34k elo, like EMBARK HELLOOO????

thorny lynx
rustic tinsel
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Super dash is one of the few advantages sword has over weapons like DB and Dagger. A strange movement rework or nerf would just keep sword stuck in the same weak state, even with the 140 dmg lunge.
Common sense tells us that nerfing just the hit sweep already made sword very weak, and you acknowledged that by reverting it.
In fact, nerfing the movement is basically the same as nerfing both movement and hit sweep at the same time, so it’s an even bigger nerf. If that happens, sword will just be a weaker version of the already weak Dagger. You should never make changes that ruin a weapon’s identity.

I think suggestions about removing multi-hit entirely are heading in the right direction, but the extent feels a little bit excessive. But what the sword truly needs is its original dmg and movement. So if I were to make one suggestion: a way to maintain multi-hit while keeping both of those, it should involve making the primary target take 140 dmg and non-primary targets take slightly less. But current 25% dmg reduction is trash. even non-primary targets should take more dmg than that.

Restricting aiming during a lunge effectively nerfs movement, hit sweep, and aiming itself all at once, making it one of the worst nerfs. This is like not being able to move your mouse while aiming with a gun.

If they're going to make such a terrible nerf, you should just 'remove multi hit entirely', which I previously said was excessive. The reason for excessively turning your aim during a lunge is for multi hit, so if you remove multi hit, there's no reason to limit aiming, so there's no need for an aim restriction patch. Once again, Restricting aim during lunge is an even worse patch than the current dmg nerf. It is such a terrible change that it makes the sword completely useless, to the point where I would actually agree with removing multi-hit entirely.

But, I think just revert sword and melees would be totally fine. You can always buff other weapons instead. Pls just revert.

silent fog
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Give us the option to put gloves like these on both hands. Such a nice glove but its on the hand you barely see...

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feral ferry
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Sword never needs buffed. WHO WANTS something that literally was broken comeback? Sometimes I legit feel bad for Embark having to read all these comments that make no sense.

hollow badger
#

nerf m60, it has too much damage and too much boolets

jaunty lintel
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Why do i still have pixelized main menu, bring back normal pre event backgrounds.

coral seal
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please give us the option to change the zoom and also version of different scopes/ sights based on our preference. For example on red dot give us the option from 1.0 to 1.1, 1,2 and 1.3 zoom because even with most weapons having the same zoom on most sights some are still outliers having more or less and having that little extra quality of life and control would be nice. Costumizing dot size would also be nice as it differs quite a lot depending on if ur using xp, famas, m60 or what not. Also on the adder reflex, it has 2 different versions depending on the gun its equiped on, on some the redical is big as the arn and on some its very small like xp and to my knowledge that doesnt have to do with the actual zoom u get. Give us the option to change which version of the sight we want to use on each gun.

paper oak
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buff the sword please, i hope this games dies of it

worthy totem
# rustic tinsel Super dash is one of the few advantages sword has over weapons like DB and Dagge...

All melees completely suck, only sledge is usable cuz of heavies hp pool. Ofc a good sword is gonna kill people but it doesn’t have the damage to carry a lobby where everyone is gonna try to kick it out. Dagger backstab window gets smaller by the update. Dual blades are only good in corners. And spear needs to get reworked. But winch needs a nerf or atleast a fucking rework cuz it keeps winching around corners and behind walls. FtNote: first game of the day got paired with a gold against balise. Lost first round with 10 kills. 💀

foggy haven
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is it me or every emeralds lost creativity and being toxic when people don't play as "expected"

leaden shell
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embark can we consider a class lock system for this game when i get games with an overflow of light it just makes me log off and look for something else this has to be dealt with. i understand light is fun but this is getting out of control. also them would help so much with balancing

west glacier
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small ask: headshot for dualblads deflect

thick sorrel
midnight dock
#

Please add an option to change the color of the reticle on your sight like you can with the normal reticle

twilit sand
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buff cloak. dash meta sucks

dense tinsel
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I like the new spring outfit, but was it really necessary to make the skirt so short? One of the things that makes The Finals stand out is the lack of sexualization of its female characters, but I’m afraid they might slowly start heading toward the typical (and awful) approach of most video games, where the focus is always the same — mainly sexualizing female characters.

I think it would be a big mistake and a real shame if they went down that path.👎🏽 👎🏽 👎🏽

terse slate
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Seperate Rubys from the rest... Rubys are the reason why this game has so much issues growing.
People being literally obliterated is killing the fun. Theres not even a learning process from it or anything.
This is letting the casual friday night gamer going against the esport-ready dude with his optimized settings and energy drink.
Blows my mind why rubys are being matched against casuals. Its more damaging than anything else.

drifting topaz
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  • NERF DOUBLE BARREL

  • NERF CL40

past ibex
#

Please add a 4v4 or 5v5 cashout ranked mode. Also would be very interested in power shift becoming ranked.

I love cashout but the idea of 3rd partying or intentionally not putting in cashouts cause you’ll win without it doesn’t make for great competitive moments.

halcyon solar
glad creek
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Add back solo bank it, so players do not need to worry about solo queuing (or some sort of solo game mode)

Give Fcar, a slight mag boost, due to overhealing meta.

echo urchin
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sorry but this drip is way too cool to keep gate kept behind a season one ltm.

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torn hull
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I wish this game actually worked

broken crest
#

BUFF MELE WEAPONS EMBAAARRLKKKKKKKKK
THERE ARE USELESS IN RANKEDDDDDDDDDD

tame vessel
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Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the first swing damage in the combo from 65 to 70 making it 70, 80, 90 and increase the spin attack damage to 120

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either give it a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block all melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it's bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

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unreal blaze
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Embark,

What's your public response to your own ARC Raiders devs mockingly The Finals dev team's decision making? Apparently the quote that a few of Arc Raider devs have pointed to The Finals recent 13% decline is due to a "Crisis in common sense balancing". Apparently the ARC Raider team is reveling in the fact that they have better weapon/gadget balancing in a beta than The Finals has after 7 seasons.

I think internal competition between teams is healthy, but it looks like the ARC Raider devs are trying point out that toxic game design and balancing is holding The Finals back and why its declining.

frozen tree
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Please stop nerfing everything to get high ttks, especially with healing. Buff weapons so they’re more fun and you’ll bring in more players, what’s the point of a competitively balanced game if it doesn’t draw in players to compete

brisk falcon
# plush fjord Most "I am a light" ahh comment. Increase LH1 recoil. Stop nerfing weapons, but...

Tbh I tried using CL40 rn, dropped 16 kills in quick cash, idk why you think its a high skill weapon, but ok, that's your opinion, maybe you are that bad that cl40 is a high skill weapon for you, not judging

The whole balancing discussion will not be 100% right until devs will fix matchmaking (getting killed by ruby or emerald in world tour or quick cash isn't fun), but talking from my experience CL40 is pretty overpowered even after nerfs, there are literally 0 reasons for calling it a high skill weapon imho

rocky path
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There should be World Tour badges for your player card from season 3. I got emerald that season, but I don’t have a player card badge for it, just a sticker.

sleek marsh
#

I'm honest this new exploit shit got out of hand so quick. I got disconnected in 4 out of 7 WT games

hexed inlet
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I'm a little surprised this isn't a thing yet but... Is there anyway they could patch in the over heat meter & cd for medium's heal beam being shown on the HUD. I hate that I have to equip the heal beam to see if it's cd is up.

echo panther
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Day 8 of asking for a infected mode for the future halloween update with survivors and infected (zombie or what ever halloween skins u cook up) outfits where 2-3 ppl start out as infected having to kill the suvivors and turn them running around with daggers while the suvivors get normal weapons some should be obtainable in the game mode and some outfit purchasable the infected and survivors should get gadgets and important that the infected get 1 throwing knive in theyre gadget slot that can kill a survivor from range

Few Ideas for some mechanics:

-Zombie spawns should be fast
-Once Zombie turns a survivor the suvivor gets infected on the spot
-If the Zombies should not be able to turn anyone give them some type of comeback mechanic at the last 2 minutes or so (stronger,faster, etc.)
-I think multiple fast rounds would be more fun
-Heavly halloween decorated map maybe change the light more dark and griddy

maybe other ppl have better ideas than me would happy to add them
also DB users are stinky

edgy glen
pearl vector
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Could you please add hold to walk into the game? My movement would be a bit better competitively with it.

icy basin
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buff dagger

stark spear
open plume
#

Can we get a few more black contestant fasces?

brisk barn
placid token
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Fix the goddamm matchmaking !!!!!! Why am I in matches with no lifers all the time

keen lily
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this shield event must be the worst one you came up with so far, ngl, somehow the shield can be disabled with the glitch grenade but glitch barrel is not enough. also teammates act like idiots, please buff rewards for ranked so people can actually learn how to play this game, you make casual modes not enjoyable

sterile canopy
valid cradle
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This world tour event is probably the worst thing ever added to the game and that’s saying a lot because yall have done some REAL stupid shit

fast mortar
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Please add more recolors for the summer dress as well as an option for outerwear in cosmetics. Every outfit needs to be able to be layered

smoky gust
white anchor
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💡New event idea 💡
Grapple hook event where u only use sword and also maybe the duel sword for lights event only and the alt is the double slash and it crits at an backstab angle,it's like a spin on attack on titan.
Make a map practice sever where u can have no cool down spec cause using grapple hook on maps r too much fun

Within the match teams often play another game which is light class using grapple hook to carry cashbox and race to the corner of a map far from cashout,it would be a fun event where u just hold on to cash box race against other teams and it's all about maneuvering through the entire map and platform just to hide cash box or pass it your teammates

Make each spear spin manual so there is skill expression and u r not stuck at spinning and u won't get any suggestions from others and they don't touch the damn spear

93r less time gap between bursts and slightly less fire rate of burst as each burst is so quick it might as well be on bullet being fired and buff damage to compensate for lower and manageable fire rate.So u can fire slowly to make it more accurate or keep firing it like an auto so u can switch between the two and u have flexibility.

Make dagger alt have one tap/click like before plus u can hold already.

The ks23 needs a slight quicker projectile speed as even in medium range u have to guess where they will be or it misses.
The main problems r heavies and a headshot buff 1.2x would fix everything and u need skill atleast.

We already have winch and sledge combo so a ks23 and headshot combo would be fair.

Ks23 also need wall penetration but weaker damage after one wall for balance.

Also we need 🔥CROSS HAIR🔥 center dot to be 2.5 in options and 1.7 when aiming for ks-23,deagles and bow for precision.

Spear spin should be manual or a new rework with alt being pole vaulting,hammer has high damage and destruction untility but spear just spins with boring combos

candid mantle
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Why is light favorited? please spare something fun for us mediums and heavies.

novel trench
#

Give us back the option to disable the chat filter Embark. I have no mouth and I must LMAO.

magic perch
# sterile canopy It is the only factor which measures their skill. K/D does not measure skill, du...

Rank is not the only measurement of skill people can be boosted they can be smurfs and many such reason across many competitive games such cs,valorant,R6s even hero shooters like overwatch etc ranks is not the only measurement of skill ( there is a difference between killing and k/d it means how many fights u win on average rather than how many fights u have won +though killing is not the objective of the game it is good measurement for skill,I completely agree kill is not purely required for winning the game but it helps a lot hence a skill ).
I do understand any imbalance would lead to deflation or inflation in rank that's is why the points system needs a overhaul, the current system is highly discouraging especially psychologically, a scale of 2500 points per rank in which you lose -700 points for coming 4th and gain 50 points for coming 4th for the same difficulty level is not good, it inconsistent.
As for counter picking as I said its a necessary evil is someone for some reason is running a loadout which counters your you would always lose not because he is better but because of counter pick now in this scenario you are losing the fight and you can do nothing cause you didnt predict what a random player would bring in his loadout this is why it would give you more creativity to change your loadout and fight him properly in turn changing game environment bringing adaptability in the game.(again look at other competitive game they all allow you to change weapon in between match after death cause you cant predict what random players will bring in there loadout + again i say this has never been an issue in worldtour amd you can limit reserve pool to 2 for rank)

visual wave
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We really need more varied hair options, free or not coconutLove

iron jetty
#

bring the finals to macos

fathom aurora
hazy vessel
#

Nerf dash, not light weapons

pure vine
dusty igloo
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Nerf winch into the sun, thing is awful.
Make it so that glitch trap doesnt have any "overtime" effect for after leaving the glitch range

waxen thicket
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nerf SH1900

add crossbow for heavy

add jetpack for light

add bear trap for heavy and caltrops for light, as mobility-impairing equipments

(Trigger warning for the diehard purists)

remove all destruction-focused items from Terminal Attack and make everything unbreakable there

allow an optional secondary weapon slot and a secondary specialization slot, that take up 2 equipment slots

add more cashout station variants, like faster stations that give less money and vice versa

add more use for the money from cashout, such as setting bounty on a specific team or betting on them in-game

untold hazel
cold bolt
#

fix uhhhh whatever this was meant to be (for ppl who can't read graphs I did not get an adjustment, the green on the left is unrelated)

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plush sand
#

whoever came up with this wt event needs to be fired

wraith orchid
#

pls give us an optioon to turn of hdr ingame

hearty bough
#

Un-nerf heal beam back to 50hp/s but nerf doubled-beams to 75hp/s please and thank you

supple oracle
#

I have 740 wins im getting teammates in solo Q ranked who are unranked and have 30 wins and cant rank up for the life of me this season. I solo Qed diamond before and came back to try again and its just miserable. Everyone keeps saying to play casual but i thought the whole aesthetic of the finals and charm of the game was the competition so i dont understand why its all split up into 3 different ranked categories. It takes 10 plus minutes to get into a PC lobby because of changes like this. Teammates in casual are people i wish i had in ranked because they play just as well or even just for fun which keeps the game fresh. In season 1 and 2 the sillyness and competitive nature of this game went hand in hand together and i ranked up because i wanted to play the game every day. I never touched casual once and had a blast. Even when i lost in ranked i felt like i could get it back by just tightening up and playing a little more seriously. Now adays teammates are usually just new players and console players who have nothing to give to the match. Things stay pretty stale and its really tiring. Sometimes teammates wont even get a kill the whole game while im trying to grab onto a desperate wipe and steal. Nobody has time to play all three ranked modes to go for skins. i just wish i didnt have to pick and choose and instead got rewarded for my time, creativity, and skill. im very passionate about this game and ive gotten a lot of people into it, i think the devs should be bringing the playerbase together rather than splitting it apart trying to categorize each player.

ornate sage
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More outifit slots please

narrow belfry
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Winch needs a distance decrease and either no stun and 5 damage or stun and no damage at all bc this is crazy how much of a crutch it is when the whole lobby is spamming it

umbral swift
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Dagger

  • Revert backstab angle to 180°
  • Bring back tap-to-backstab
  • Fix minimum hold-to-backstab taking longer than tap-to-backstab did
  • Revert charge time from 800ms to 500ms
  • Self-slowdown shouldn’t start until fully charged
  • Bring back backstabbing Goo/Turrets/etc
  • Buff successful backstab damage to 350
  • Revert damage buffs to primary/failed backstab

Sword

  • Revert secondary attack to 140 damage
  • No other changes are necessary

Dual Blades

  • Parrying melee often doesn’t work correctly
  • Parrying shotguns often doesn’t work correctly
  • Let secondary animation cancel primary
  • Let primary animation cancel secondary
  • Accuracy of reflections needs buffs
  • Either:
    • Remove the third attack
    • Make its damage worth it

Riot Shield

  • Blocking melee often doesn’t work correctly

Sledgehammer

  • Revert damage to 115/200
  • No other changes are necessary

Spear

  • Either make the secondary attack:
    • Cancellable
    • Remove the third final spin
    • Only do 1 spin at a time instead of all 3
tired fable
#

Yo Embark

// Training mode

  • add dmg range, %accuracy, spread infos,
  • targetCPU presets, short capacity CD option
  • possibility to choose different types of building and reset destructions
  • cashout station & figurine mate

// QoL

why we can't wear contestant number 69, explain us
Match history: add it
Items shop: add possibility to test shooting, reload animations...
group: give lead/join mate and be spectator when he is ingame
random FAVORITE skin : thx you to add random skin option but can we have a random favorite selection like apex plz ?
Skin preset: add gestures, spray, audio, card pose, weapon skin, etc... on skin preset plz
Emote Wheel: Ability to remove an emote from wheel
chat: uncensor "lmao" and "wtf"
Loadout preset: let us cook loadout preset for real
Sledge lobby Pose: buff sledge pose plz
Sight: Let us choose weapon sight in training mode and before match
UX Loadout: put 2 items lines when choosing weap/gadget before match, scrolling is annoying
Team color: change pink or purple into green, it's hard to make difference during high fight
Coin revive: button/icon "I will coin" "dont revive" when wiped

// BALANCE

Pyrogrenade: 30 > 20sec CD
Dagger: remove M2 charge cancel when climbing and make it works like M2 throwing knife
Sword: no buff needed, lol
M26: the 5centered pellet deal 13dmg and 6 external's 10dmg /or/ reduce spread
Turret: give a Turret health bar on UI to monitor Turret HP
Explosive Mine: 15 > 12sec CD / or / 2stack 20sec CD
Demat: fit color demat to the team color
Reshaper: less CD when swapping props/grenades/rocket
Breach drill: 25s > 20s CD / or / explode 20% faster
Dual Blade: buff everything
Spear: split M2 full combo animation into 1 swing per M2
Sledge: just revert nerf
KS23: 100% aim accuracy + bigger projectile hitbox /or/ faster pump action

daring fossil
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cheaters in 4/5 games of TDM of all places. cheating hasn't been this bad since season 1-2. I dont play every day anymore, and when I do play I make it maybe 3 matches now because it's tiring.

scenic spear
#

They should add a mid game event where a tornado goes through destroying buildings and can suck you up and throw you around

calm steeple
limpid hill
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Hey guys it would be really cool if 90% of the lights I run into weren't able to spam dash around me in an untrackable manner.

Consider implementing a cool down between dashes, so that lights can't just dash in circles around whoever they want

brisk tangle
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Can we get proper SBMM? why the fuck im constantly facing people that reached Emerald for 5 season's straight? i suck at this game, give me people just as bad as me or even a little better, i want a challenge, not to be violated by people who can hit headshots from 14432432 meters.

sonic spoke
#

fix the fuckign game

vestal rapids
spark shard
#

Given that matchmaking has been broken since season two, being one of the most unfair systems ever made in the video game industry, and you're not going to do anything about it, and I doubt you can do anything for the few players left playing the game...

Could you at least add a preference for what kind of teammate you want for those of us who can't complete a team of 3 (solo players)? For example, my preference would be not to play with players who use light, preferring medium or heavy, since 99% of the lights who play solo have brain damage or something like that.

I would be grateful for this feature.

jolly pike
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I think TDM shouldn't be first to 30 kills. it should be whoever scores the most in a time limit

tribal spoke
#

Buff dual blades to 63/63 damage

surreal kestrel
#

It's been a few weeks since my store bundle preview is bugged, it's just a blank screen, it doesn't matter if I press play it doesn't work.

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mossy crown
#

Increase the likelihood of the meteor shower event happening or get rid of the metero shower achievement. In the last 60 hours of gameplay, I've seen that event trigger ONCE!!!

harsh cliff
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For Christ sake remove this piece of trash gun CL40, what the hell are you doing with this gun, 3 M with CL40 and turrets, for Christ sake do something, how the hell am I going to play light, really this thing is just toxic, I can't.

celest estuary
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Hear me out

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ebon surge
waxen abyss
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Am I tripping or does the winch claw + ks23 combo is kind of clunky? I mean, a lot of times when I winch someone and shoot them - the shot is either not happening or not registering properly, it feels weird. Like, I winch someone, I shoot them and the character just starts pumping ks23 and no damage was dealt

open socket
#

SR refound pls i just lost a game because of server lag

copper karma
#

is anyone else crashing?

wanton isle
thorny vapor
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so i just won a game of finals but since i restarded my game inbetween rounds i just lost 1300 elo? how does that make sense at all? i was litteraly in the game when we won the game this feature makes no sense?

oblique jay
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Green role only chat

lost marsh
grim granite
shy bronze
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fix ranked soloq, its just awful, make a sperate que for solo players only

frank holly
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Fcar +2 damage. Feels very underwhelming with all this healing going on.

ocean eagle
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Need more spots for outfits, I ran out 😦

next atlas
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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING GREAT, GET RID OF THE DOME SHIELD ON CASHOUTS

past ibex
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5v5 ranked cashout/power shift please. getting 3rd party in ranked in a game thats not even a BR feels bad

zinc palm
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talk to me about some proximity chat that would be so baller

rugged vapor
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I like kyoto

split mist
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remove grande glauncher, double sword

drifting topaz
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  • NERF DOUBLE BARREL

  • NERF CL40

median bloom
#

Reminder - Who ever came up with the world tour event should be fired

dark niche
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buff dagger & reshaper!!

naive leaf
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Embark is a company that pretends to do something. They had a great opportunity to become successful with THE FINALS, but they missed it by snorting cocaine in their office. You show that they have bugs in the game that give gameplay advantages. You show how poorly optimized the game is. You show how useless the current anti-cheat is. They don't care. And when you literally crash their servers during their off-hours, they give you strikes on your channel, quickly clean up all the information. They ban you from all your devices so you never again let the community understand that they don't care about the technical side of their game. That's all, ladies and gentlemen!

#MakeTheFinalsGreatAgain

orchid osprey
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Tell nexon you need better servers or fix the hitreg, change the server ticks back to what they used to be. Whatever you have been doing in this front for the past few months is not enough and asking $30 for a battle pass without stable low ping servers is absolutely unacceptable.

bronze orbit
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Hey @rare spear my bandanas aren't working like they should be. when I emote they stretch staying in place where I was originally. was i hoping you guys could look into this. It's would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

untold venture
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Increase server tick rate, the no regs this season and last one have been crazy, even cs valve servers aren’t as bad

shrewd comet
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Please make the interrupt contract as a team 🙏🏻

turbid cave
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Would be cool if this screen shows the skin of your current mastery

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faint saddle
fathom otter
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WOOO I LOVE PLAYING AGAISNT SMURFS WOOO

potent solar
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man some of these ph players got good ears, can even hear colors and where they are on the map. can we get those audio cues for the rest of us? idk maybe its something else

tame vessel
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Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the first swing damage in the combo from 65 to 70 making it 70, 80, 90 and increase the spin attack damage to 120

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either give it a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block all melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when blocking and deflecting and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it's bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range and the bullets come out of the person's head instead of their gun, pls fix the bug

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

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signal shard
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Give heavy class a catapult as their mobility gadget

last saddle
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Can this fucking game stop throwing me into matches 10 seconds away from a loss? Please? I just got hit by three losses in a row that way. It's so god damn frustrating at this point.

quartz folio
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If a game is on the verge of being over like power shift please stop matchmaking those games because I don’t like spawning into a game where the platform is near my side and spend 10s in the game

steel saffron
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Buff the sword lunge from 105 to 2000 dmg and normal attack to 1000. Only fair since we are treated as second class citizens.

lapis harness
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Make dagger charge faster or let us run with it charged. I’m so sick of missing the back stab because they took a step because i’m forced to walk.

limpid crescent
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heavy grapple ltm please embark it'd be really funny to see a 7' contestant swinging through the trees like tarzan

simple ether
#

@potent solar its called "wall hacks". Im willing to bet something like 30% of the players in this game or more are using "sOfT cHeAtS" (which is just regular cheating but these kids think calling something else justifies it).
Once you know what the tells are, it becomes super obvious when someone is cheating. Like throwing out random sonar nades that dont ping anyone yet they always seem to know where you are even if you are invis healing in a random area of the map.
Embark doesnt ban them despite multiple reports, so just get used to it I guess. 🤷‍♂️

versed dagger
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nozomi slide should allow you to slide all the way down in one slide

lethal bear
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get rid of kyoto

rugged breach
#

Tides of fortune

spice zenith
#

Please add a favorite feature to the weapon shuffle option.
I do not want to use the basic recolors for the frag grenade when I have so many other better ones available.

warm zealot
#

Bring back the CB1 white suit

keen tartan
#

Quick play needs a soft skill based matchmaking. Just enough where I don't get players who just look around the map instead of playing the game

tropic briar
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DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SERVER LAG PLEASE

still crater
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A problem on the finals discord is classism, which is the discrimination of people who play ranked to the people who don’t play ranked Where there are more people in voice chats that will bully people that don’t play ranked then there are people who are nice and welcoming to new players

potent pawn
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Heavy body type 04 still has a very tiny ass. Miniscule at this point. Inexplicably underdeveloped.

If you look at real life male bodybuilders, they pack much more there than you gave heavy to work with. I have said it before and I will say it again; this choice to deprive heavy body type 04 from a proportionally muscular bottom comes from the toxic masculinity-esque expectation that a man cannot be proud of and work towards his big ass. I find it very discriminatory, especially when it is highlighted in a muscular male.

And so I ask, "what is being said with muscular male heavy having a small ass?". And sadly I think the answer is that you seem to think that being muscular gives little emphasis to a big ass. That a male who decides to put work into a stronger body with higher muscle mass is a male who does not care about the beauty and size of his ass; that he has made a choice opposite to that of a fat heavy, or a light or medium. This is not reflective of what a bodybuilding body type is. It is discriminatory and outside of any representation, and it deprives us of a beautiful sight in-game.

Heavy body type 04 needs a proportionally adequate butt size.

heavy rampart
sonic spoke
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hacking is out of control

sand mulch
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Yet another instance of suspension due to game crash for the love of fuck just flip the switch on this already.

frozen tree
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I like this game despite my complaints hug_friend

rancid pine
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Buff Lights, they need to make the game even more unplayable 🙂

wispy ivy
half briar
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Cheating is out of control. Crazy. I know kill cams are hard given the server side physics, but if you can't solve the cheating issue, just give us the cams as best you can.

Edit: they practice in quick play though, or stream quick play, and make it unbearable.

fleet sage
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down in the lower ranks there isnt too much cheating luckily

ruby dew
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BUFF SWORD

sonic timber
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Dash needs to only go one direction no back dash or side dash

wooden atlas
dreamy owl
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thanks for the lobbies of lights, thanks 2 team full lights, thanks devs 🙂

lament grail
tawdry wyvern
molten jackal
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Okay, so is the new thing, we fucking complain about something and you guys make it worse? Cause I'm getting sick of it.

gentle trench
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why can enemy grapple go through friendly shield?

full sierra
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goo nade to 1 charge pls, its overwhelming run in high elo and its basically impossible to chase down a goo nade demat med if you also arent demat. also smokes to 2 wouldnt be a bad idea because absolutely nobody will like it if everyone is smoke stealing on lan

hoary solar
rustic tinsel
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Super dash is one of the few advantages sword has over weapons like DB and Dagger. A strange movement rework or nerf would just keep sword stuck in the same weak state, even with the 140 dmg lunge.
Common sense tells us that nerfing just the hit sweep already made sword very weak, and you acknowledged that by reverting it.
In fact, nerfing the movement is basically the same as nerfing both movement and hit sweep at the same time, so it’s an even bigger nerf. If that happens, sword will just be a weaker version of the already weak Dagger. You should never make changes that ruin a weapon’s identity.

I think suggestions about removing multi-hit entirely are heading in the right direction, but the extent feels a little bit excessive. But what the sword truly needs is its original dmg and movement. So if I were to make one suggestion: a way to maintain multi-hit while keeping both of those, it should involve making the primary target take 140 dmg and non-primary targets take slightly less. But current 25% dmg reduction is trash. even non-primary targets should take more dmg than that.

Restricting aiming during a lunge effectively nerfs movement, hit sweep, and aiming itself all at once, making it one of the worst nerfs. This is like not being able to move your mouse while aiming with a gun.

If they're going to make such a terrible nerf, you should just 'remove multi hit entirely', which I previously said was excessive. The reason for excessively turning your aim during a lunge is for multi hit, so if you remove multi hit, there's no reason to limit aiming, so there's no need for an aim restriction patch. Once again, Restricting aim during lunge is an even worse patch than the current dmg nerf. It is such a terrible change that it makes the sword completely useless, to the point where I would actually agree with removing multi-hit entirely.

But, I think just revert sword and melees would be totally fine. You can always buff other weapons instead. Pls just revert.

unreal blaze
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Embark, the game needs some serious changes to stave off the massive 13% and dropping player counts. The reality is that players, even some with 1500+ hours like myself, are just sick and tired of cheesy BS weapons and gadgets.

Rebalance the CL-40 Grenade Launcher

  • Remove the 50 cm inner blast radius entirely, making damage scale linearly with its outside blast radius.
  • Increase direct damage to reward the player for actually skillfully using the weapon.
  • Increase the self-damage to 1.75x-2.00x so that CL-40 users aren't rewarded for running around at CQC and shooting at point blank. The weapon is designed for Powershift and Terminal attack to break the defensive team's defenses, not a bunny hopping 1v1 CQC monster.

Nerf Double-Barrel Shotgun

  • Nerf the damage to 165. This gives Mediums a fighting chance if the Double Barrel user half-misses their shot spread. This also makes it so that Heavys can't be two-shot, but instead require a follow-up quick melee to finish.

Unlimited Ammunition needs to be removed

  • Its honestly asinine that a weapons with such absurd levels of alpha damage like the Throwing Knives and Bow have unlimited ammunition to spam attacks. Unlimited ammo destroys any sense of a gunfight where excellent movement can cause the opponent to run out of ammo. Even if the ammo count is high, both Throwing Knives and Bow need to have limited ammo, requiring them to reload.

Remove the Defibs

  • Remove the Defib already. Its useless in TDM and just super toxic and unrewarding to kill a player only for his buddy to just insta-revive them. Plus as a Medium I'm sick and tired of running the damn things in World Tour and Ranked. Just remove them and be done with the BS.

Remove Cloak

  • Remove the Cloak specialization, its absolute cancer and the biggest crutch there is.
  • Remove Vanish bomb, its actually the biggest offender as it allows the Light to practically run two of the specializations at once. Again this is supposed to be a competitive shooter, this cheesy one-sided BS has no place in a game like this.
modest patio
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please add a selfie stick hand emote like the octane selfie stick emote in Apex Legends, it would be so funny

brisk laurel
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Please. Just bring back the sword to it's glory days. It's unusable now. 😭

grave bane
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A suburban map with culdesacs, two story houses. Also voicelines for when a contestant pops a lot of balloons

vivid seal
rancid cloud
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WT takes too long, I don't want to be committed to a game mode I don't like just because I want some shiny cosmetics. 2 points for ten minutes is fucking pathetic.

hallow birch
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DEV Team has been suspended I guess, not single work is being done on the game, its left in the bin now

mild wave
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Make us able to select favorite skins for the guns skin randomizer, maybe we wanna play with one specific set of skins and not our entire skin inventory.

lapis harness
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Dagger needs a buff on charge time or no forced walk or climbing stuff doesn’t reset it or a lung. Like its hard enough to catch heavys with a charged dagger let alone any other class. And it takes to long to charge, that if they are on the move you wont catch them without a dash letting them know your behind them. Completely defeating the point. I really don’t understand why we get forced to walk instantly on top of a long charge it would make sense if other things forced others to walk like carrying objects or no auto run and such. Even a idea of giving the dagger a small distance they can run still well charging and then a few steps after its charged. Like a weapon that force you to attack from behind only well some times exposing you to two others shouldn’t take 4-5sec. To charge up.

worldly pumice
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make light melee weapons viable outside of dash.

edgy glen
broken crest
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BUFF MELE WEAPONS EMBARKKKKKKK

plush fjord
# brisk falcon Tbh I tried using CL40 rn, dropped 16 kills in quick cash, idk why you think its...

LMAO literally no one ever said u cant drop many kills with a weapon just because its high skill, experienced players will have ease.

if u can drop kills easily, or if you say you can, that doesnt mean the gun is easy to use. your light tag and u saying u dropped 16 kills with cl40 already shows me that u didnt do shit. even bigger L take after u assumed im bad outta nowhere.

"0 reasons for calling it a high skill weapon"?

  • Lob trajectory, have to predict where ur shots will land
  • Very low range, can't fight at medium-long or long distances, so u have to close the gap b/w the opponent
  • Self-damage from ur own fckng bullets, so u have to make sure the opponent doesnt go too close to u
  • Can't hit an opponent thats higher than you, have to make sure u have the height advantage

imho u havent played the gun at all if ur calling it low skill, and by the way u said everything i can tell ur a xp54 grinder that needs to touch grass.

sorry for nerding out but if ppl act so goddamn dumb then others are obv gonna look like nerds

violet elbow
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Glitch Traps have been banned in tournaments for over a year now because they just dont function predictably and attach to players at 10+ meters which isnt their intended range, they are also incredibly unfun to fight against and provide way too much value with zero risk.

Just rework them already I beg you

brisk falcon
# plush fjord LMAO literally no one ever said u cant drop many kills with a weapon just becaus...

  • "Lob trajectory, have to predict where ur shots will land" - imho bullet drop isn't that aggressive, the only thing that makes trajectory hard to predict is projectile speed, but you get used to it pretty quickly

  • "Very low range, can't fight at medium-long or long distances, so u have to close the gap b/w the opponent" - idk, you can kill heavies from long distances pretty easily, yes its far less effective but its not that hard as you describing imho

  • "Self-damage from ur own fckng bullets, so u have to make sure the opponent doesn't go too close to u" - self damage blast radius is super low, you can shoot 1 meter away from you and take barely any damage, it does great self damage only when shooting directly under your feet, but tbh I found shooting point blank kinda effective against lights

  • "Can't hit an opponent that's higher than you, have to make sure u have the height advantage" - that's where I will agree with you, but that statement applies to pretty much any weapon

I've wrote the original message to say devs abt things I find good/bad abt the game, its literally called "game-feedback", its made to take wide range of opinions, idk why you, as it seems, found it as a kind of an insult towards mediums or CL40 users, you can still believe that CL40 is a high skill weapon, I'm not against it, but I genuinely think it doesn't take that much skill as you describing, I'm okay with the fact that devs may not nerf it, its their game, but calling people "xp54 grinder that needs to touch grass" just because they don't like weapon that you are using isn't that nice of you, lets be honest.

undone igloo
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Penalty for leaving even if it is quickplay, just played a full powershift match where my entire team was switched out at least thrice because people joined, saw the team consisted of 2-3 people, played for 19 seconds then left

mortal notch
#

dead by daylight is getting mnk support on the 29th of july

embark has now been "working" on it for 7 seasons or over 1.5 years

rapid oak
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@pearl kiln Could we please get 32 Bits Server back? You can litterly feel it every 2nd Gunfight. You get eitherway shoot around the corner or winched. Aswell, the fact that Winch doesnt get canceld around Corners is stupid af. You Guys keep saying tihis Game will be a Project till 2030 but how you Guys balance everything and always force a heal Meta, makes the Game not enjoyeble

slender abyss
spiral lightBOT
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Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

uneven mountain
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why is this red thing gone?

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sudden lake
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VRs are useless once you've bought every weapon, gadget, specialization, and sight. Show Tokens are earned very slowly and can feel inconsistent in when they're rewarded.
I'm suggesting we be able to trade in VRs for Show Tokens! Win win! Besides, VRs have been useless ever since the game launched. Are you ever gonna give them a secondary use?

shy steppe
#

I HATE THIS MATCHMAKING! None of my friends play The Finals so obviously I've been playing this game alone with randoms since the beginning but the matchmaking is just awful and always have been. I have to mention that 80% of time I get paired up with players that have 0 Game sense 0 actual skills to play they don't listen to comms, eventhough I got more then decent stats. This is a general problem, but the thing that pissed me off to actually take time and rant over this is that I got paired up with premades.. They have 900 dmg all game put together I carry them to the next round, and we got lucky aswell. I REPORT AND BLOCK THEM!!!!!!!!! (for not listening to comms and leaving me out of the teamplay, letting me die etc.). Next round we got destroyed surprise surprise. Okay we got some points at least for being 4th (lmao, its WT btw). I carry on every 3rd or 4th game is like this.. GG go next, but then, what can I see??? THE SAME GUYS AS TEAMMATES IN THE NEXT ROUND!! HOW??! I literally pressed the block button twice, what is that function for if It doesn't make any difference?? And once again surprise surprise they do nothing we get destroyed being 8th and how fun I wasted 1 HOUR of my time getting 4 points. The other reason I wrote this is that meanwhile hopefully they went on and ruined somebody else's game, now I can ready up. 🙂

rapid stream
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This is a fucking joke

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spark shard
chilly niche
#

Can we all agree The Wheel is the worst way to do events and relies on luck and FOMO to force people to play the game every day and or spend multibucks

clever gyro
#

So where is the Cash Ball release video/trailer??

I've got to have something to send my friends to get them hyped enough to hop on

alpine summit
#

Day 2 asking for the famas/93r burst option to hold/toggle triggers for controller on console, it really bothers the fingers controlling the recoil it’s hard to play with consistently.

unkempt bridge
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Better hit reg doesn't fucking count as a buff????? What happened to "dagger needs more love"? this is an absolute joke

paper oak
#

Yaa, the game is gonna die with the melee
buffs.

normal reef
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Thank you for the melee buffs, let people mald

i don't mind "identity and playstyle" annihilated, superdash as annoying, so was phantom strikes, superdash is still here and much more tolerable, i've already used sword more often than not so i'm used to LMB

as for the other weapons, larger hit window on dagger is very welcome

dual blades range buff is great too

riot shield has become pretty OP

sledge's outer sweep buff is great too, ofcourse people will want a damage buff but i can live with this

spear, eh, it was pretty alright unless your whole 'identity and playstyle' was spamming RMB

odd cedar
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NEW OVERTIME RULE SHOULD JUST REDUCE CASH FROM BOXES DEPOSITED AFTER OVERTIME

frank lily
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please separate the top and bottom on the lotus reaper set

umbral swift
# normal reef Thank you for the melee buffs, let people mald i don't mind "identity and plays...

What “buffs”? Dagger, Dual Blades, Riot Shield, Sledgehammer, and Spear got absolutely fuck-all, and Sword had its identity and playstyle literally annihilated instead of just reverting the lunge damage nerf that wasn’t even needed in the first place.

Dagger

  • Undoes literally none of the nonstop nerfs that turned the secondary attack into worthless trash

Sword

  • Literally guts Lunge into worthless trash with angle cap and Evasive Dash synergy reduction
  • The damage “buff” is a slap in the fucking face, 120 damage is utterly worthless trash versus Medium and Heavy
    • You even intentionally made it so literally neither of the old two breakpoints versus Medium that were literally vital to Sword are possible
    • Lunge x2 requires 125
    • Lunge + QM + Primary requires 136
  • You instead turned Sword into M1-spambot, because that’s uhhhhhhhhhhh, SOOO much more fun and skill expressive for anyone on either side of the equation

Riot Shield

  • “Here, have a 10% faster attack, lol”
  • Does fuck all for anything else

Dual Blades, Sledgehammer, Spear

  • Absolutely fuck all that fixes and buffs literally nothing even remotely helpful to actually making the weapons any meaningfully better
solid fjord
#

EMBARK YOU SAID THAT THE WHEEL IS NO MORE

spice stag
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worst weapon on light since season 1 btw!

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astral timber
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bro what r these sledge changes this doesnt address the current problem it has at all

the problem it has rn is its abysmal ttk against every class which just gets outclasses by most weapons in the game

kindred swift
#

Were they on a goofy pill when making the sword changes 88 on primary ¿

wheat wing
#

Can we get the Ariad voice pack? Odilia and Valkyria's voice are in the new options, but Ariad isn't.

atomic drum
#

THIS WOULD BE REALLY FUNNY
A skin for one of the shotguns that's a shotgun mic.
That's about it.

jovial tangle
#

So since the muscularity for light and medium is being fixed can we get a muscular slider as an option? I really liked having my light and medium be more muscular and now they're going to be gone again.

thorny lynx
#

So an ENTIRE mid season patch and you could not fix the RAMPANT emerald badge problem. Awesome

neat yoke
#

peak patch 🤑

true void
#

Riot Shield did not need any kind of buff whatsoever. It already makes the player damn near invincible in a 1 on 1 fight.

No double barrel nerf is an L

No evasive dash nerf is an L

small arrow
#

Why did sword recieve another HANDICAP, why is this the only weapon in the game that is allowed to bully and boycot? Worst changes ever. Not being able to turn camera is BS. Clown devs over at Embark

mortal stream
#

EMBAAAARK WTF ARE YOU DOING TO SWORD MAN?

slender girder
#

Can you STOP making terrible decisions when it comes to contracts as soon as an event is out??

Last time you baked them into daily contracts, forcing us to play the LTM to do all dailies.

And now you have the demand of 50k cash to get one of the tickets daily. Come on. I'm basically a strictly Power Shift player and getting 50k cash from that mode isn't exactly sth you just do.

You need to start thinking about everyone (solo casuals included) when making these decisions.

crisp timber
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There are also FPSs with weak gun…

deep summit
#

Just give ks-23 perfect accuracy if standing still ads or crouched ads, doesnt need to be hitscan, if you cant hit shots 25m away you shouldn't be using that weapon

rugged vapor
#

Hello
I like the double cashboxes its supposed to be unfair. It also keeps you going when your fourth place. Its part of the game. Also defib is fine the way it is. Also part of the game.

tranquil galleon
#

EMBARK WHY??? WHY??? You LITERALLY contradict your own letter about viability and ease of use. So then why have you done NOTHING about it?

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spare ravine
#

Embark I swear dagger was to be a skilled weapon not hammer blutooth left click spam give us actual rework of hitbox not some blutooth range with spamming left click

clever island
#

please bring back the sword this update is even worse than the last one. the rotation lock ruins the sword viability on multiple levels limiting overall movement while double barrel can still one tap lights and has no limits

sleek topaz
#

about the sword, The 40° attacks from secondary attacks is very horrible

unique shadow
dense turtle
#

no SH1900 nerf. What a joke

signal root
#

#REVERTSWORD WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF IS THIS 💀

untold meadow
#

A note on Melee to the Design Director, Matt: change the sword lunge rotation to 180 degrees because this 40 degrees is actually stupid. can't even turn to track anyone with 40 degrees.

atomic canyon
torn hull
#

FIX. THE. GAME

YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE IS BAD.. FIX YOUR GAME FROM CRASHES THIS HAS O NLY HAPPENED SINCE 7.3 SO WHATEVER YOU DID IN THE UPDATE SCREWED MY GAME

frozen creek
iron berry
#

The whole speech about melee viability and you did NOTHING to help out dagger, actually a joke, anything but fix its secondary attack, the entire point of the weapon

iron acorn
#

so close embark, but a 40 degree lock is wild! you cant hit a single human that walks slighty to the left

compact oracle
supple mortar
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These melee buffs are literally just cosmetic and don't solve any of the issues. Actually, you fixed the sword damage! Only to completely gut the viability of the weapon AGAIN.
Thanks embark. Glad to know you hate everything we enjoyed about melee. You have proven that you are not willing to change, so im done giving this game my time.

untold hazel
#

ong why wheel i hate it all 4 generations

radiant reef
#

Really? The Wheel again, with no changes from last times? Why don't you listen to people's feedback.

still axle
#

The CASHBALL would be cool, if it was about sport and not kill... Why do we have weapon ? It should be only gadgets and ability to push our opponent, killing is so annoying, and you jut have to get a light and mark one point over and over, that's really need a balance, it suppose to be sport, not war ! What a miss...

Oh and nobody cares about the fact to charge the ball to make more point. People just put goals one point at a time....

rare vessel
#

Please make playercards visible for the entire duration you are spectating after being killed

restive warren
#

im actually happy about the sword because it cant pull a 180 after dashing

covert peak
#

Why did they change the heavy Muskel Look in the Light and Medium Body 😦
It was just astetic.

tired fable
quiet tulip
#

The balaclava is still headwear, but the shinobi mask is face wear. Please let me wear hats with balaclavas :) been waiting a long time for ityesegg

livid pivot
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Can we for a while for a short while get the focus on fixing the game first fixing the exploits dealing with the cheats and cheaters fixing the endless amounts of bugs and then start working from there again on adding things to the store and adding new features to the game it's making the game unplayable it's way too much this is unacceptable by any measure mean or standard like how are you going to keep on going like this You're losing players right and left some people are coming back yeah the The concept is lovely and everyone is loving it yeah but the game could have been on a way much more better path in everything on every level had these things been dealt with from the get-go I don't get it I don't understand it why don't you guys just fix the game first fix the basics and then do the rest do a pause on the schedule or something it's unacceptable

pastel cypress
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Can you bring back the old dagger backstab where i just had to press a button instead of holding it and it not even working half the the time because i let go a milisecond earlier there was no need to change it seasons ago i remember actually using it because it was fun but ever since youve had to hold it its not fun to use to unreliable now

somber patrol
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Medium class should be entirely reworked.
It's a nothing burger class that do everything worse than other classes

craggy vessel
wraith orchid
cyan sable
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Thoughts on the sword rework:

With 105 lunge you could still technically kill mediums with 2 lunges and a quickmelee. With the new buffs it seems like they want primary attack to be a good combo tool. Even then, it doesn't matter. 120+88+40 = 248 so it doesn't even combo well against mediums without a second lunge or a single tracking dart.

I think the initial nerf was a bandaid fix, so they wouldn't have to remove the weapon from the game while they reworked it (like stun gun), because then they wouldn't have to worry about people asking "when is sword coming back?".

Is the rework good? Probably, I haven't tried it yet. Is the damage good? not really? It just spamming primary attack stronger than it already was, which is more frustrating to fight than the lunge. Are people overreacting about the buff? Yes.

The reactions to the sword nerf and recent buff are stupid, because this would be like lights celebrating the sledge nerf. (I main light, but I still play a lot of medium or heavy if the team comp needs it) I also was a sledge main, because I love the melee weapons in this game and I would love nothing more than for all of them to be usable and good, even as a specialist pick rather than a generalist option.

naive torrent
stable tinsel
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thanks for awesome melee buffs! Finally we can frustrate poor light players again by killing them with m2+qm, now it's okay again 🤡
why don't you just replace all melee weapons with ARs and SMGs and don't bother again?

marsh horizon
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Gain cash from any gamemode is not working for quick play

sonic arrow
#

I haven't been able to play the new update, but your attempt at fixing dagger was absolutely pathetic

jagged cedar
glad spruce
#

30 minute matchmaking time is definitely something... (south america)

ionic grail
cobalt parcel
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Dear Embark, thanks for the new BallMode it’s really something new and nice to play.

It also would be awesome if we could get the possibility to make Pick up and reload 2 different buttons on console , cause it really is wreaking havoc in heated situations often

Thx for making this awesome game 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀

unique wasp
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my frustration with the description on melee goals is that it already felt like melee was in a decently reasonable place a few seasons back. sword and sledge were both decent-to-good at all levels of play without being genuine honest-2-god meta outside of maybe winch sledge on defense, which is both- yeah instagibbing anyone caught in an ambush was part of the appeal of that weapon and also more winch's fault than sledge's fault.

Finals caught my attention in the first place in part because of the way it handles melee, so this stretch where there wasn't a single melee weapon in the game I'd call good didn't feel so great. We'll see how the sword buff pans out with time, but I don't like it whenever I get the feeling that the fun playstyles are being whittled away in favor of something more typical and controlled.

KS buffs are cool, though!

runic sierra
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hoping to see more sledge buffs buuut

ball mode is sick, i love this

devout ruin
#

fix the 50k daily, it's so grindy

tame vessel
#

you guys increase the swords lunge damage to 120 but you leave the spears spin attack damage at 105, this is bullshit

alpine pebble
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the def animation is bug

fair dagger
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You undebuff the sword and leave all counters to it nerfed, please thing about buffing model 1887

quick coyote
#

Is there a client-side api?

umbral jay
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Nerfed sword just to buff it to nearly the same state with a better super dash…do you devs even know what you’re doing?

I highly question the dev team’s intelligence sometimes. Who actually thought this was a good idea?

ggs boys the next few months are gonna be swords every game and every 5 posts on Reddit will be a sword nerf post.

fervent citrus
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Make a essay that needs to reach a word limit about melee viability. Literally do nothing but the bare minimum for the majority. Haven't played for a week and starting to feel not so more. Explain to me how a sledge hammer literally loses in point blank encounters to every other heavy weapon.

plush sand
#

I am actually just going to uninstall I have never in my many years of gaming dealt with a dev team this incompetant when it comes to balancing. I spent years with Ubisoft on Rainbow Six Siege and it wasnt as bad is this absolute mess. Worst dev team with zero communication. Nver played a game this unbalanced with trash servers with constant lag.

narrow shoal
#

Bring back the 💪 medium and light! I can't identify with the old skinnyfat physique

waxen olive
#

sooooooo… when r able to emote in lobbies

viscid stirrup
#

Calling melee nerfs akin to racism is a crazy take

Buff sledge damage tho

vocal nimbus
#

All melee whiners are contrarians who exist only out of spite because conventional firearms are good

torpid kindle
#

thank u embark for sword changes, they good :
nerf dashlunge > epic
buff basekit lunge > epic
remove 360-ing via camera lock > epic
lunge dmg above 110 > epic

stuck rock
#

hey, i have a bug where my badge says emerald 2 even though my rank is currently emerald 3. thank you for reading

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wispy ivy
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what is this sword "buff", just revert this shit back to season 3 already

nocturne ridge
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yall either dont test your changes to weapons, or want this game to be cod. at this point just remove sword bro, you made it worse again 40 degrees of rotation is less then the width of a window when you stand in front of it. learn how to balance a game bro.

silent fog
next flax
#

Embonk I appreciate the reduction in bundle prices for animations but you gotta reduce the base price of the epic animations. You're going in the right direction but it's not enough imo

topaz jungle
#

“What you're doing isn't any different from racism.” Have you lost your fucking mind?

copper blaze
#

Change the spawn location of the ball in cashball. It's too easy for a team to throw a ball from the half line and score over and over.

ivory dagger
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embark... i play with T1 pros in most competitive games.. ofc this game is made for casual but now u realy 1 player.. the high skill u need to make the dagger + sword work is a nice grind for a highly competitive player.. now u completly destroyed the sword.. u need to stop listen to casual (bad) players which are getting mad being destroyed.. i played since beta but now is time to say goodbye and come back to this game when u buff the melees again ❤️

sweet wasp
fading falcon
#

Why is it that swords are allowed to combo with quick melee attacks for fast kills, but the sledgehammer isn't? There's nothing fair about your balance adjustments.

polar blaze
west glacier
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i just want to say: wow guys! the new game mode is very cool! it is surprisingly deep. and me and my friends have been implying what we do in real life football into this game mode 😂

past surge
#

Sword is BACK baby

hollow badger
#

STOP GIVING ME THESE FUCKASS SWEATS IN WT< THEY NEVER MISS AND PLAY AS IF ITS A ESPORT TOURNSMENT< STOP IT

worn hamlet
#

i didn't like heavy hitters or the cl-40 event but the super cashball was pretty fun ngl

quick coyote
#

REVERT HAMMER NERF
YOU CREATE YOUR OWN PROBLEMS

valid cradle
#

FUCK SWORD WHAT ARE YOU DOING OVER THERE?!??? You guys actually are clueless, got it. 👍

past ibex
#

What are the rewards for ranked play and why aren't they shown? It's very confusing to open up ranked progression and not see the rewards with each corresponding rank or even a written piece about it.

Also please add 5v5 ranked cashout/powershift.

split mist
#

the balaclava is going through the ballistic mask. fix it

royal mango
#

THE WHEEL

real dawn
#

Sledgehammer is still completely gutted

quaint portal
#

the initial melee changes were decent, except for the sword, 40 degree angles for lunges is too narrow, try to increase it. any value up to 180 would be fairer than 40

nova mica
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Thank you for another free skin wheel event embark, you’re very generous. Please bring more of them even if the spoiled crybaby brats like to complain about FREE SKINS 🤦🏻

I personally love them and am grateful for any free skin I get

drifting pawn
#

STOP. DOING. WHEEL SPIN EVENTS. they're not good/fun.

glacial iris
#

i'm not a huge fan of the skins on the wheel, but i'm grateful for them. the gamemode is awesome tho, lots of fun :)

alpine flame
#

this change is horrible

WHY???????

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rich kraken
# drifting pawn STOP. DOING. WHEEL SPIN EVENTS. they're not good/fun.

I second this... but if you must continue doing them make the 4 failed rolls a free pick instead of another ticket, I'm so unlucky I rolled 2 bad spots on my second and third rolls of the season.

however I do like ball game mode is fun. a shame that these kinds of game modes don't stay fun if constantly done as seen with terminal attack and even a little with team death match.

should rotate 2 or 3 of the event game modes as to not split the player base and servers so much. I wouldn't be sad if power shift got shelved for a little bit if I knew it would come back as long as another brain off mode like deathmatch was still active.

sterile canopy
# magic perch Rank is not the only measurement of skill people can be boosted they can be smur...

This isn't a game decided by winning fights. Why use that to measure how good someone is, when you can just measure how good they are at winning? Smurfs and such are an issue but I don't see what this would really change; if they're playing badly to keep their RS down then their KD could easily be low too? Players in a support role would also be disproportionately favoured.
It's also critical to note that the K/D of a silver and a platinum player for example may be approximately equal, because their lobbies will differ in difficulty.

Now, you could use a kill-based elo system, which would bypass the problem I just mentioned. However I still do not see how this could be as good as just using regular RS.
Not sure what you mean by the difficulty level thing, that's just a visual impreciseness. But I would agree that it would be better if it could be more precise, to avoid people interpreting it weirdly.
How do you think it should be reworked? An elo system pretty much must work like this for it to be fair, this is how it works in every other similar system I've seen - though perhaps the four-team nature of the tournaments leads to it appearing less fair due to the fact that it doesn't take into account time cost, being a measure of success in matches of highly variable length. I've heard many players state that that concept made it feel less fair.

Again, "necessary evil" but it's clearly not necessary. We do perfectly fine as-is.
You will not see an enemy team running a loadout that requires counterpicking to defeat - the game just is not really balanced as such. I do not think this positive is at all significant when compared to the negative of making nicher picks unworkable. Many similar do not have the same problem due to their own balances, so it would not be a big deal there.

twilit sand
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Stop messing around with the KS and remove the bloom. You will do anything BUT fix it's biggest issue.

leaden shell
#

first game of the day triple sword wons thats crazy good stuff embark

bright wraith
#

since the new update the Controller not work
Hello Embark,
Since the new update the controller is not working on pc... Can you fix it ASAP please (ps5 Controller)

pure vine
#

suggestion for defib overhaul:
What if you came back at full health, but you were nullified as if you'd just gotten hit with the nullifier, and weren't technically alive until you solidified? The enemy could still team wipe you during that period and it wouldn't count as an extra death. Since movement and positioning are such a big part of the game, this could get the defib'd member outside enemy sights and allow the whole team to regroup, plus it would eliminate defibbing to distract enemies.

feral shard
#

Day 50 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)

It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes

It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex

Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it

(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)

random garden
#

THANK YOU EMBARK FOR LISTENING: a step in the right direction with mele and an unexpected but pleasant KS buff.

Sledge mains: yall havent had to wait as long as sword players have waited… chill tf out lol

uneven wraith
#

this update is a complete joke, theyve gone a buffed the knifa so hard that i have just been one hit as a heavy by the same guy 4 times over... what the hell were they thinking!

unreal blaze
#

Embark Legal Team,

FYI, do not let the devs add low-gravity to the latest event.

If you do, you're violating U.S. patent law. How do I know? $850 million dollar video game, Star Citizen, tried to add a mode like this with low gravity and they were served a cease and desist notice, which they complied with.

odd umbra
#

did they mess up Ps5 Controller function on PC

fathom aurora
#

another nerf to medium for no reason.. most guns still ass, its alot better to play light naruto style dashing and grappling left right and center anyway

hearty bough
ember osprey
#

For the first time in here lemme say this:

Thank you Embark for listening and positively addressing the melee weapon issue that plagued the game for a long time. Using a melee weapon feels way more fun now and every weapon got a buff that it really needed without overdoing it at the start. It is also very refreshing and assuring to hear that you will continue to improve melee as a playstyle and iron out some of the cheesiness of them but also giving them buffs to not need to rely on cheesing the weapon. I hope we see more buffs for other weapons like the shotguns so that we have a healthy rock-paper-scissor loop for CQC.

One wish i have is to be able to use VRs on all or a limited amount of items on the Wheels since they felt reasonable before but now tend to feel slimy or predatory with the FOMO of the limited full outfit. Also please reconsider adjusting the price of the Ultimate Battle Pass to 20$ since the current price point seems a bit high and a few things in the Pass seem to be either uneeded or filler like the XP boosts or level skip. Also reconsider making the time-exclusive since they currently undermine the introduction of the best feature: Legacy Battle Passes.

I also want to say a sincere thanks for ensuring Linux compatibility in a gaming landscape that demonizes the operating system and refuses to support it.
I think this patch note was able to instill some confidence and trust in the game for players.

uneven dagger
#

Thanks so much for bringing back wheel embark namaheart

oak kernel
#

Rage baiting for a gambling mechanic is wild

indigo mural
#

Love most of the changes on this patch, thanks for the detailed explanation on the teams view of ‘tech’.

After jumping on this morning: Please consider reverting the overtime double stuff in World Tour ONLY. It’s essentially a casual mode and shenanigans based gameplay is what keeps our club coming back every day.

magic perch
# sterile canopy This isn't a game decided by winning fights. Why use that to measure how good so...

I believe you are purely focusing on the kill aspect of my discussion regarding the assignment of tournament difficulty i believe it should be a aggregate of different factors such as kill damage support point objective points etsc and not just ranked(i am against the fact difficulty of tournament is assigned purely on basis of rank).
Yes the four system nature of this game makes it look unfair in comparison to different games that is why the assignment of difficulty to the tournament and in turn the point allocation needs to change and hence i started by asking for rank point system overhaul.
My point from the start for allowing us to change weapon/gadget is that it would be quality of life change first, and i would like to give e,g for that. 1st Imagine u que in a match with a revolver but your aim is not there(which happens a player can not be consistently good every single time) now your team suffers since you are not able to play good if you had the choice to change weapon you can to ak or fcar and you can provide more for the team.2nd you have started matchmaking and the game start but you went to the washroom now you have loaded in the game with a loadout that is not your main now your team and u suffer because of that.There are countless such example to why weapon/gadget switch will be a quality of life change and as you said yourself in your message the final doesnt have hard meta and thus counterpicking wont be an big issue in this game and as i said earlier if it would be that big of an issue people would complain about it in world tour

fallen copper
#

I am a bit confused by the logic with the sword buffs (or return to previous values). The patch notes hit heavily on trying to eliminate "tech" in general except in "rare cases" where they see it as a mechanic. they include the "super lunge" as an example of a tech that is fun to master but is:

"for others, it’s frustrating. It’s unintuitive, often invisible, and disproportionately strong."

So they go on to make some very minor changes to what is possible with this tech by only altering the potential range by a few meters. Now that is "fixed" I can go back to geting jump scared and one shotted by sword players creeping the whole match and lunging+meleeing for an instant kill.

Is this really a balance

edgy glen
#

These wheels are the most rigged thing in existence, You think they're fair until you get a 10% duplicate for the 4th time.
Last time the wheel was on, I got 13 duplicates out of my first 24 tickets.

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river plover
worthy totem
#

The sword changes are good, the only problem is the value of camera lock. If i can’t move my Cámara how am i gonna hit a dude dashing or a medium side stepping??? Get the value to 180 atleast or 150 degrees, just tested and I take back a few things. Movement on sword is dead, range is good but the speed at which u move is crippled and you killed our maneuverability with the neck cramp bs

worldly pumice
#

remove the camera lock during lunge and instead allow us to "free look" while the animation remains at the locked 40 degree angle so that it doesnt feel so clunky.
i dont really feel that the movement is that bad even with the nerf, infact superdashing has way better verticality now which i appreciate

lilac citrus
tropic egret
#

Increase the payout in cashball to 10000 when you lose and 20000 when you win

neon rune
ivory copper
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The dagger buff was a joke. It only helps with the primary attack, which was never the problem with dagger. This update does not help anyone except people who cannot hit backstabs. At that point go play sword if you just want to primary attack, it is slightly better for that. This sort of stuff is where the meme about how embark wants you to play dagger by just using primary attack comes from.

worn burrow
#

worst ltm so farm GG embark
and how is the M spec still the worst of the 3 healing options the other 2 are gadgets

glad pike
#

I have an actual good game feedback:
allow stickers on the heal ball :(

shy fossil
#

They are dividing the packages in the store, making the focus on usage. You pay less, but before, a set that cost 1800 is now divided into 3 parts, each costing 1150. I'm talking about the sets: light opulent, medium opulent, and heavy opulent, the golden weapon skins with skulls.

compact plank
#

Another primary attack buff for dagger further proving that embark wants to homogenize it into a riot shield clone without the guarding ability

Players have complained for MONTHS about the dagger backstab hit registration being dog shit, and what do you do?

YOU ALTER THE HIT REGISTRATION ON THE PRIMARY ATTACK????????

it's just a spit in the face, embark saying "here, enjoy this useless change that's worded as a buff, so that we can prove we at least remember your weapon exists."

toxic sedge
#

ILY EMBARK TYSM!! Just, please keep going the sword route with other melee’s and make them more playable too!

worldly scaffold
#

ltm is amazing! W patch!
Also WT second box removal at overtime, sounds good to me, have to try ingame.

EDIT:
Event is bad, too Light focused, M and H are pointless, will make bigger post about this later after cooldown.

wooden atlas
#

Ok embark good on you with wanting to improve melee. Gotta keep it up with the sledge next. I’m happy sword got some love, but heavy boi needs his combos back against the dash.

potent oasis
#

Removing second box in overtime? Man Embark, you really fu*ked up this time

cloud jungle
ionic monolith
potent scarab
#

ranked matchmaking is cooked

haughty lintel
#

please for power shift, the enemy team should have to push it the same distance in overtime. The fact they auto win if they just get to center makes it feel like all the hard effort you did to push it the distance you did especially if its farther was for nothing. This would make power shift a lot more enjoyable and rewarding.

echo panther
#

was expecting more from a "A massive melee update with buffs and improved functionality!" 😅

silent turtle
#

thank you devs for looking at the KS-23 🙂

fading sedge
#

Hey Guys Im new to this comunity(I mean TF discord channal), which I repersent a sowrd player community of a contury(secrate), my friends inside this community told me to upload some opnnions about the new sword "update" ( our community have six lvl 11 sword and perhaps Im the first lvl 11 sowrd in asia, and perhaps the first lvl 11 teleport in aisa too) . What we want to say is that , the new 40 degree limit is so bad ,that not just a weaken ,but a very unconfortble change on the use of sword. I think many of high lvl sword player usually change their view when using super dash , not just for trun the sword to enimy,but another thing is this let us can see our back , which is enimys we just pass through, this help us to get information and perpare our next attack to that enimy ( you know if we dont pass through the enimy, its easy for him to use weapon to eliminate us even in close range). This rotate of our view is very very importent. but the 40 limit just lock our view which make us cant collect information and very uncofortble . ( sry for my english is very bad).

gleaming summit
#

what happend again to the footstep audio? is this now a premium dlc?

trail terrace
#

please make the video actually work

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bleak nexus
#

Bruh stop patching harmless fashion glitches like making medium and light having the muscle texture from heavy or headwear clipping outfits. Don't pull a rockstar on us they are harmless and fun.

dire scaffold
#

Voting on events or maps would be awesome

azure wedge
#

With every update, there are just more, and more, and more, and more EXCUSES trying to justify this video game's huge imbalance... when the answer is very simple.

  • The current game could be balanced quite decently if only the Heavy and Medium classes existed, because there's only a 100 HP difference between them, which is manageable.

  • The current game could be balanced quite decently if only the Medium and Light classes existed, because there's only a 100 HP difference between them, which is manageable.

  • The current game is IMPOSSIBLE to balance because there's a 200 HP difference between Heavy and Light, which is an INSURMOUNTABLE CRAZINESS, and the main problem will continue to exist forever... Everything that does logical damage against Heavy, DESTROYS the Light class. And everything that does logical damage against Light just TICKLES the Heavy class.

The solution is very simple and anyone who studied primary school math knows it... That HUGE difference needs to be reduced, and we've been telling Embark this for almost 2 years...
Heavy should have 320 HP, Medium should stay at 250 HP, and Light should have 180 HP, thus reducing the difference between Heavy and Light from 200 HP to 140 HP, and the game would be much easier to balance. 320HP/250HP/180HP and not 350HP/250HP/150HP, it's too OBVIOUS not to see it...

If you don't want to do it, then don't, but then accept that the game will NEVER be properly balanced. And the greater the HP difference between classes, the more, and more, and more difficult it will be to balance the game correctly for basic mathematical and logical reasons... Stop making excuses. Be responsible and take action... There is no other solution than to reduce the HP gap between classes. If you don't understand it... well, I wouldn't even know what to tell you... If you don't understand it, it's because you shouldn't be making a competitive game like The Finals... With all due respect...

hazy skiff
#

the sword changes are awesome and I think it does a lot for the weapon but I feel the current rotation lock is a little limiting as the sword does not want to dash directly into people, I think if the rotation was bumped to 70-80 degrees the weapon would be more palatable and feel better to use, while not lettig people become a human fidget spinner

frozen tree
#

SWORD BUFF!!! YIPPEE!!!
I love this update... but I do have some things I want to say

  1. Design philosophy. In the patch notes, you discussed how your design around "tech" is to remove it, except in some circumstances where it is fair for both the user and opponents. I am no game designer, so take this with a grain of salt, but I think that when someone discovers tech, instead thinking "oh this is unfair, we should remove it." I would think "oh this is cool, how can we balance it?". Again, I'm no game dev so do whatever you want but this is just my opinion

  2. Sword... again. First off: THANK YOU! A damage buff without nerfing superdash too much (the restriction was a good idea) is what we wanted. However, this wasn't my idea of a buff. The left click damage buff is unnecessary, as it only makes the medium combo a little bit faster, and the speed nerf makes it worse in some cases. Imo, the only damage change should have been the lunge going to 140, just to make the heavy matchup bearable again, as before and currently it just takes a little too long. Not saying I don't think this buff was what sword needed, I just think it was a little less than what I was hoping for.
    Edit: Ok maybe less of an angle lock?

  3. Melee as a whole. This one is a minor nitpick, the hit sweep buffs are nice but I was hoping for some other buffs

Again, I'm not trying to sound like I hate this update (because I don't), but there are some things I want to bring up. Can't wait for future melee buffs!

wanton isle
tepid summit
#

Really???? Thoes where the melee "buffs", yeah my friends are never coming back to this game man, and im losing all hope for this game

thick sand
#

nice new game-mode sad you still don't have an anticheat and everyone has speedhack and immunity hacks but still , nice try + the game lasts wayyy too long if the score is 10/0 why not just end it? the rewards are absolute garba too

jagged flax
#

My controller doesn't work since the update. Have anyone else the problem? I play on PC

candid tide
wary flax
#

Revert the Defibrillator charge up time to 0.8 seconds, nerf it in any other way.

such as being unable to revive a player using the defibrillator if actively taking damage from enemy players.

lavish shard
#

Buff sword 🖕

summer elk
#

When do I get a throwing knife skin where I just throw rocks at people

hot imp
#

cashball needs to be 5 min instead of 10 or everyone will leave mid match if losing

lilac pelican
#

Looking at the new Wheel of Crap, and why do we keep bringing it back is beyond me.

But these cosmetics are horrid for this wheel. Crazy. . . lol

grand temple
#

No alien is living on a gas giant or venus

dreamy badge
green spoke
#

The sword 40 degree are soo badddd, pls make it like 60 or 80. Its hard to get some information and also kill some enemy who are just beside us

polar ermine
#

Can you stop putting that cart mode in the objective challenge list thing.
I DONT WANT TO PLAY IT.
"so don't play it" says the average moron.
It's part of the seasonal content.
"so don't do it"
If you as the developers share the average morons perspective on a solution to me not playing a mode I don't want to play then your game can go screw itself.
Stop putting it in the challenges, respect my time, the majority of people don't play the damn mode as designed, I'm rolling the dice over 30 minutes to complete your stupid little challenge to keep doing the content of the season.
You might as well force the community to go play Terminal attack.
you wouldn't dare.

mental blaze
#

It’d be great if u could preview sights in the customization menu, rather than the reticles being invisible. Just so u don’t have to go into the practice range over and over to see which one u like.

tall kernel
#

Love that you guys have been way more creative with the limited time modes. And the skins this season really make it feel like an arena type game show

untold venture
#

the cashboxes despawning after overtime is reached is for sure a great change that does kinda help the 2nd place team and is a step in the right direction to prevent griefing but it still is not enough, 99% of the time both cashboxes are deposited before overtime starts so this change doesn't do much, an actual hard fix for griefing would be preventing the doubling of the last cashout all together, 3rd and 4th place teams shouldn't have a catch up mechanic if they are that far behind anyway, if you played like shit the entire game should you be rewarded for in the last 2 mins of the match? doesn't make much sense

warped axle
#

why does this game now take longer to open and does it really need to use 100% of my cpu and its not a cheap cpu either an i9 12900ks

silent musk
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Loving the melee changes so far! I think the only big note immediately is that I agree with the rotation clamping for sword, but i think 40 degrees is far too limiting, like even for the balance philosophy. Id argue for something more like 80 degrees? Its a weird thing cuz too big of an angle enables the bad feeling of getting 360'ed by a sword, and too little feels like the weapon has no breathing room and adds more weaknesses to a weapon that can already get easily shut down. (Edit: after trying it a bit more, im unsure if 80 is too big, actually. maybe 60? Who knows)

Regardless, i think the steps taken in this update are the right ones! Thank you! I really appreciate you guys listening to the community and implementing feedback, even when it is... harshly worded to put it lightly.
-A sword player

visual wave
#

Just read today’s patch notes:
great happy_friend
So stoked you gave some love to melee, a lot of people were hoping. And it’s awesome sword is buffed again. Didn’t expect the damage for both main and alternate attacks to be increased, nor did I expect the lunge distance and speed to be increased, but I’m here for it.
The rotation clamping is also a very cool idea. I remember how I’d be able to lunge ahead of someone and swooce right around and poke them in the face, which didn’t feel 100% intended. Excited to try the sword out some more now.

That and super ca$hball Robatama

you’re a great team, much love

quick coyote
#

Ignore all balance suggestions from the peanut gallery and add more outfit slots asap.

terse slate
#

Hitreg is now even worse since the newest patch. Oof_Intensifies

autumn oyster
#

So now the final vault disappears, and if the first two teams have already secured their spots, the match essentially continues only to determine third place? If two teams both secure two first cashouts each, the last vault has little to no value.

Instead, once a team is guaranteed to advance to the next round, they should automatically enter spectator mode. Otherwise, they just interfere with the match by griefing or intentionally boosting other teams. Only the teams still fighting for qualification should remain active. Allowing a qualified team to stay and influence the outcome makes the competition unfair

P.S. Not the box is griefing matches, but players!

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shy walrus
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Limiting sword dash to 40 degrees is stupid and not fun. Embark are taking away from the movement that made this game so fun.

ashen pine
#

I love the name game mode just slightly wish we could customise our outfits for it

brittle bloom
#

buff shotguns next patch give us fun to all players we want to one shot lights with quick melees too

talking bout medium and heavy specifically

coarse dew
#

we need a hat like this in game. unplayable without it

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cold bolt
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Hey Embark, S3 Ruby players still have not received the player card badge halfway into S7. Following the petition we received the clavicle and card background, but not the card badge (arguably the most important piece), and multiple of us have contacted about this yet it's still not implemented.

past shard
#

can we please collectively agree that the sbmm is ass

west frost
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Im angry, disapointed and MUTCH more. What the FUCK embark, the sword movment nerf made it unplayable for me, you should just have made it like it was in S3 (without phantom hits). The primary attack is to strong, you shuldnt be able to mindlessly swing, thats what I always hated mindless swining. the secondary at 120 is fine imo but the movment nerfs are UNBAREBLE. call it a skill-dif on my end but I always made sword work somehow. This has made me consider leving, I have bought every bp since S2 and EVERY sore bundle with mb, Im at a loss. I truly love this game but WOW.

zinc sandal
#

hey this new update has given me infinite loop loading screen

neon ingot
#

Hello, I was wondering if anyone knew whether next season will also have an ultimate battle pass
I want to know if i should get this one or the next one

orchid osprey
vague pebble
#

Will heavy get a chainsaw as a melee weapon?

empty island
#

love you, and im thankfull you looked at the ks-23, the apple of my eye. im going to miss its long range capabilities. my projectiles will be missed. i think that means im going to have to visualy understand 25m and switch between leading my shot and aiming directly, im kinda sad ,but ill trust that this was the right decision, ill try it out tonight...sniff

north eagle
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i really like that the new mode is highlighting melee, and it would be cool if we could see more funny modes like this, maybe as a weekly rotating mode thing.
some of these modes (like the current one) could not only bring more attention to niche playstyles, but it could also allow the average player to have their eyes open to what goes on in the heads of these niche players (although with only melee and no ranged weapons, they don't really get the full picture of what it takes to make melee work in the finals)

undone pier
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Thanks for at least saying the nerfs were so you could kinda balance the melee weapons while you fix the techs. Just please tell us when we can expect these fixes

true harness
#

For dupes with "The Wheel", allow them to add up to creating "Super Tickets" (instead of regular tickets) with a guaranteed win/item. It's bonkers that someone can earn every ticket possible during the event, and not finish with everything.

daring fossil
#

holy shit, not nerfing dash and then making it lights default is wild.

quartz cedar
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What in the name of the lord did you guys do to the sword?
Limiting turn radius feels VERY BAD. ANYTHING would be better, even a damage reduction.

Look into a different way of balancing sword, this is NOT it.

**In all my life, probably 40 000 to 60 000 hours of different shooters / combat games since early 2000's, I have never come across such a terrible design choice. **
Limiting turn radius is a bad idea, it removes all fluidity from play, freedom of movement, and makes the game feel incredibly clunky, when YOUR GAME is supposed to be ANYTHING else than that (?)

I also don't play sword much, my sword is lvl 4 (red), but I came to your game because of the special gameplay, and the option to play melee weapons when I was bored of playing guns. That was one thing that separated your game from other games.
I strongly disagree with a design choice like the turn limit. For me that design is against everything I believed your game stood for. Fluidity in movement, etc.

elfin dock
#

Revert the defib time just because you couldn't find stuff to fix(While it's being there) Doesn't mean you need to break random stuff

patent wind
quartz dirge
hard shoal
#

Why does my account have an extra 6250 MB? I just logged into The Finals on Xbox PC.

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terse lark
slim totem
chilly niche
#

Option to preview the default voice that your face / headwear provides. It does it automatically when you press the voice tab while your in the 'create new outfit mode' but not when just normal editing your contestant

Also have the option next to faces / headwear than change your voice to preview the voice there too. As some headwear like the TV head and battlepass robot heads give you a unique voice that overrides the voice tab

idle frigate
#

After i sword lunged trough an enemy i couldnt turn back to kill him? i thought this was a bug first but it turns out its be BALANCE CHANGE?????

Pls come piss on my grave when im dead 🙃🙃🙃

worn vortex
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Sword

Hi, my name is Edel and I am a Sword Main, almost 200h and i only use this weapon, not mainly, only.

To be honest, even with the big nerfs, the sword was still viable for people that mained it like me. I always was in positive KDA and sometimes even most damage of my team. I never got the skill to properly use "techs" so the phantom strike was never a thing I used.
But i do understand for new player, the weapon was impossible got get the hand on.

The probleme before was :

  • Techs
    Im happy that techs are getting removed (even if reducing the Dash + Leap distance is really bad in my opinion, because the weapon has no distance option, so at least give it some speed to catch up.

  • Leap
    Sword player mainly used leap, as if it was the main attack on the weapon and I understabd that Embark is trying to lean more into the slashing aspect of it, and i like it.

"False Buff" :
Increasing the damage but nerfing the leap is actually in my opinion a bad idea. It get's it more "easy" for new players, but caps the skill level wayyyy lower, really punishing for sword mains...

Like, does the sword really need to get this much damage ? Even when it was 75 strike and 105 leap, it was bad but still playable.
I just have the feeling that increasing to 88 strike 120 leap will just make it more frustrating for other players.
Maybe find a middle ?
(but the one shot light was needed)

"Camera Lock Probleme" :

I understand that the 360° was a big probleme, but reducing the mobility to 40° angle is frustrating, it gets on my nerves. Like you feel restrained as if I couldn't moove. Its really punishing even in mobility because i feel that im leaping straight to my death. Because it locks my in my direction and can't escape from it.

Solution :
Lock the angle to 80-90° left to right. In total you would have 160°-180° to play with, it keeps from spinning and you wouldn't be able to hit people that you "missed" or dashed through

regal wind
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I dont even play sword that much, and just the thought of locking my screen/reticle in one place pisses me off, theres gotta be a better solution here embark.

wooden atlas
dire ivy
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I know helicoptering with sword was a problem, and the clamp is the right way to curb it, but 40 degrees is so small. You can't even look down when lunging at someone, so fighting on stairs and roofs is impossible now. At least make it 60 degrees to each side and clamp only horizontal camera movement. Also the clamp just makes quick melees harder to hit, so just allow people to turn their camera past the clamp whithout the hitbox following it.

broken crest
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embark I am very satisfied with the sword buff but only one thing is a bit too much and it was the angle which should be at least 70°

dark niche
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okay no what is this dagger buff embark come onn :(

sinful haven
#

Hi embark! Love you guys but I'm super confused at what the heavy load out is supposed to be in cashball?? Were we supposed to be defense? Cause if so the load out does not match. I'm curious why barricades when the hoop is taller than the wall, and dome shield is so situational. Lockbolt is great but like, heavy really needed goo grenades or goo gun to be actually useful and not just kill farming.

keen adder
#

Give me the pirate voice. I have the pirate bundle. Give me the voice. Give it to me. Give.

Edit: Please

novel trench
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Loving the sword changes Embark. I love the idea of forcing lights to commit to a lunge and the cone lock is a fantastic addition.

But did you have to buff the primary attack too?

Looking forward to Spear and Dual Blades getting a similar treatment in terms of bringing them up to par. I’m hopeful the desync issues with Dagger will be addressed sooner rather than later but I understand it’s a difficult issue to solve. 💋

coral axle
#

You put the pirate bundle up for 20$ (which I bought) never add a voice for it, then add the voice 3 seasons later for sale, WHY?!?!?!

quick coyote
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The changes to Cashout still change nothing like 95% of the time.
It almost always gets doubled like at the 2 minute mark and gets doubled almost instantly, and if it doesn't it just is being held at the opposite side of the map by another team.

Make doubling have some interaction time to deposit the cashbox like when you plant the key in Terminal Attack.

We finally got Cashout changes, but it barely did anything.

jaunty tulip
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You guys have destroyed sword I preferred sword prior to this “buff” it’s feels So janky and horrible to uses. Sword did not need any nurfs or buffs in the first place. Your lead melee weapon designer needs to be fired they keep making horrible decisions that nearly no one agrees with. Also having two separate weapon designers it can lead to harsher treat meant of melee or range which we have seen many times. Also if you compare sword or other melee weapons to ranged ones there is a massive difference in how strong they are melee are consistently weaker. Also most “range” weapons can out perform melee ones even in close range fights which make absolutely zero sense. Bow and sniper are better melee weapons then the actual melee weapons

honest spire
#

can we get a battle royale limited time mode ❤️

ornate apex
#

Quick question is the support a streamer for the cosmetic still available?

thorn lark
#

i like the season 1 supporter background. Any chance of getting a beta background? would be cool to see a design with the skull namatamahug_friend

swift notch
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the sword change is great, just adjust the angle alittle more and we're good

Sword light dashes can shit and piss everywhere. Geeeeet fucked

drifting topaz
#

  1. NERF DOUBLE BARREL DMG

  2. NERF CL40 SPLASH DMG

karmic fiber
#

Defibrillator should have a reload animation after the first use, just like nullifier and RPG.

round isle
golden badger
#

servers pls fix

zinc palm
#

I am frustrated with the lack of meaningful changes made to dagger, nobody ever on this beautiful planet has asked for better hit reg on the primary attack of the dagger. the dagger feedback bug report has more or less come to a consensus on what a fair and meaningful rework/change to dagger would look like and i wish that feedback was taken more to heart

flat dirge
#

im probably the only one but I miss what the voice 3 - bright was before they changed it. Back when it was a deeper voice and I wish it would come back in some form. Also just new voices in general, I love hearing different ones

unkempt cloak
wise rain
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I love my female voices but we only have 2 male voices???

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raven garnet
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awesome LTM. poor rewards. you have that helmet in the last battlepass. then in the store. and as a spin reward. like why we doing this trend

stray thunder
#

Why is everyone looking blue in Super Cashball? Please stop making both teams look blue in Super Cashball on PS5.

next yoke
#

buffin melee weapons was a mistake

narrow python
#

I really dislike the removal of interesting tech in favor of buffing numbers! We should raise the skill ceiling, not lower it!!

errant mortar
#

Buff the Data Reshaper back please, it used to be so much fun to set up with, now it's useless. :(

normal locust
#

FIX YOUR FRICKING SERVERS

visual sonnet
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Huge update guys. Completely fucked all pc players using controller. You simply can not play the game on a controller anymore. Game does not recognise your controller even tho it works in steam. Well done devs.

potent pawn
#

Embark. Just be yourself. You got this. 👊

torn canyon
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Sword turn radius being locked feels like trash I'm not gonna lie. I physically cant move to beat people who I lunge through. Was the idea to force us to use primary and only use lunges situationally? Because if that was the case, I've gotta disagree with the way y'all decided to balance this. I'd say at least bare minimum, 120 turn radius, of not then 180.

steady jackal
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embark why!! please revert the cns design!! the old one was so goated (before and after)

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open linden
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sword sucks now please reverse

its actually an unplayable weapon now considering lights only have 150 hp

primal frost
tacit radish
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they gutted the sword even more 😭 naurrr

pure obsidian
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Bro if you find the 360 spin sword op, just remove multi hit and make it 180. It's like you really wanna keep the multi hit. but you chose to making the sword can only turn 40 degrees when lunging.

The super dash nerf is a great choice. I like that choice but you shouldn't decrease the overall distance when using it, that is idiotic.

wide void
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Why did you have to physically lock the camera angle when using Sword's lunge? You could make it so the camera can still be freely moved but the player's model is locked to the 40 degree zone, meaning the hitreg remains the way it is now. (I'd personally rather it be reverted entirely, but this would at least make your new design feel better to use.)

Also, lunge+QM+primary should kill Medium, especially since you nerfed the lunge's angles so badly. Buff the lunge damage (preferably) or primary damage (not so preferably) so that this 3-hit combo works (even if just barely).

sullen girder
#

A teammate left ranked game from start, they get suspended and loose RS, BUT why the fuck other teammates also lose points, this is so dump, how is a 2 player team supposed to win?

hollow badger
#

REMOVE FINAL ROUNDS

trim beacon
#

Give the KS a headshot multiplier too if it's now considered hitscan. Makes no sense to me why it doesn't have it. Decrease the overall damage (not the damage to obstacles) and give it a hs multi

rigid oxide
#

at the risk of fucking up something completely awesome...

I'm getting some weird patterns with the voice system that I'm struggling to figure out

It seems the Devourer sound effect persists with other voices on certain characters

I think perhaps characters that were already wearing the face now have Devourer effect on every voice

I thought was a result of wearing the face on top of any other voice

However, I swapped another unrelated skin to the face to test out the other voice and it didn't work. I was also able to hear Devourer without voice mod.

Idk what did this but I was having lots of fun exploring all the options and hearing all the voices with or without mod.

Might be worth separating the mod from the voice?? idk

wind reef
#

I think this update is a net positive!

wheat wyvern
#

The devs were NOT cooking with this new game mode holy hell

royal spear
#

Iiiiiiiii do not enjoy the defib being a full second. It is so much longer

zinc scaffold
#

That center jump pad on the new game mode or dash needs to be removed you can just play light wait for the ball to spawn and dash jump pad it right into the goal and you cant even stop the ball cause it goes way too fast

regal ivy
#

dear embark is it intentional that the reflector still has glare on the lh and that the looking glass has the same zoom as the reflector?

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mortal notch
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revert sword to 7.5 and buff the dmg to 110 you killed the identity of the weapon i have nearly 1200 hours on sword and about 1800 total this is not a good change the angle lock is the most out of touch nerf next to the pike nerf fron 59 to 52

you removed the high skill ceiling and high skill floor

you removed mine and many other peoples playstyle

worst change ever

ps:Your opinons on "tech" is extreamly backward and just fudemently wrong and bad for the game

delicate dirge
versed dagger
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goo mines

karmic pike
#

I LOVE THE SWORD, THE SWORD IS GREAT. IT"S FUN TO PLAY AGAINST AND NOT FUSTRATING AT ALL!

rugged temple
#

40° camera lock basically just kills sword. It was fine when it had 140 damage, and all the balance changes to it have just made it less fun and a genuinely terrible weapon.

wooden sand
#

all the melee changes are a step in the right direction but seeing more targeted buffs would be cool

cyan cairn
#

Bring back the 2 grenades!!!!!!!!!

sharp herald
#

super cash ball is amazing - when standalone version?

weary hill
#

We need creative mode

tidal siren
sharp meadow
#

GUYS NEED ADD SKIP MUSIC OR SELECT IT IN MENU!

sonic arrow
#

I'm glad we're experimenting with changes outside of tweaking damage numbers, but holy shit 40° angle lock on sword lunge is not the change we needed

Not only does this kill the hit and run playstyle sword has, it makes incrediblely situational for most situations when you also buffed the regular attack too much.

This isn't a "buff" this is a whole ass rework with a shit ton of things gone wrong

deep cedar
#

it would be nice if defib reloaded the revived players gun, as getting defib'd with no ammo basically leaves you completely defensless :(

ebon sequoia
#

Fix Servers

still rose
#

PLEASE keep cashball is a permanent game mode its so fun

proven venture
#

finally someone who understands that weapons need skill, feels like melee and a few very niche guns still have skill level left to them as embark has gutted a lot of other guns skill gaps and made them easy to use

calm orbit
#

Embark, can you guys break up the new bundle's (Lotus Reaper) outfit into a top and bottom? I really wanna use the pieces separately for drip and I'll buy the bundle as soon as that happens

umbral swift
#

say melee needs love

Sword "buffs":

  • Primary Attack
    • Buffs damage to 88, turning Sword into M1 spam-to-win weapon
    • Nerfs the inner width of the hit sweep and calls that a "buff"
  • Secondary Attack
    • Increases damage to 120... which is utterly worthless
      • Heavy breakpoint: Lunge + QM + Lunge + QM [Requires Lunge to do at least 135]
      • Heavy breakpoint: Lunge + Lunge + Primary [Requires Lunge to do at least 131]
      • Medium breakpoint: Lunge + Lunge [Requires Lunge to do at least 125]
      • Medium breakpoint: Lunge + QM + Primary [Requires Lunge to do at least 122]
      • Light breakpoint: Lunge + QM [Requires Lunge to do at least 110]
        • Makes this sole and exclusive breakpoint ALSO UTTERLY WORTHLESS with the rotation clamping that makes hitting Light with lunge impossible if they aren't a Practice Range bot
    • Nerfs the attack duration nerfing the distance/uptime on the lunge and calls that a "buff"
    • "Buffs" the lunge speed/range while gutting Superdash ACTUALLY meaning LESS distance/speed than before

Dagger "buffs":

  • Nerfs the inner width of the hit sweep and calls that a "buff"
  • "Buffs" the utterly irrelevant Primary Attack instead of doing LITERALLY ANYTHING WHATSOEVER about the Secondary Attack you gutted into the ground with nonstop nerfs it never needed

Dual Blades "buffs":

  • Nerfs the inner width of the hit sweep and calls that a "buff"
  • Does literally NOTHING about the third attack being a detriment due to how shit its damage is for how slow it comes out

Riot Shield "buffs":

  • Nerfs the inner width of the hit sweep and calls that a "buff"
  • 10% faster attacks

Sledgehammer "buffs":

  • Nerfs the inner width of the hit sweep and calls that a "buff"
  • Literally no damage buffs/nerf reversions WHATSOEVER

Spear "buffs":

  • Literally the SOLE CHANGE is a __NERF __to the inner width of the hit sweep that you're calling a buff, LMAO
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craggy vessel
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After some though I think this balance patch is decent. I understand what was the purpose of defib nerf but please, dont do it that way. Unlike overwatch we've got only 3 classes and I assume Mid is kinda support/assault class so this doesnt make sense to me. Besides that I'd REWORK CL40, everyone knows why. Its fun but only for User, I'd even try to put as a gadget and limit and increase structure damage to be good alternative to materializer

brave rover
#

super cashball is sick, nice job embark ! NamaTamaHeart
nerf sword

onyx aurora
#

am i the only one experiencing fps issues ?

versed gull
#

Decent sword changes, I wish you would have helped dagger out more.

I'll need to play more with this new sword to get the hang of it but thank you for making the damage worthwhile again.

fair shuttle
#

Patch change is not at all impacting double stacking of cashboxes. Just remove the ability to stack them and the issue is solved. No one will miss it

limber verge
#

Speak, Jia Baoyu.

What does The Finals need?

wild agate
#

Poooss

floral marten
restive niche
#

The new rotation clamping on the sword is fucking stupid. Any feature in any game that wrenches control of the camera from you is fucking stupid, especially when the weapon has existed for almost two years.

elder glacier
#

Please add the ability to make inspect weapon a toggle button. There are some inspects in the game that are able to be toggled on and off but most of them are not. Consistency with this or an option to turn it on would be amazing.

winged hawk
#

I greatly appreciate the devs taking the time to pay attention to the melee weapons. They'll definitely feel a lot better to use for now and I'm sure that they'll continue to monitor their viability as time goes forward. (I'm not even someone who uses them lol)

grave bane
#

Can you change the spear secondary attack to a throwable projectile with a similar charge mecha ic to the bow. Instead of the zone attack. I feel like more people use the zone then the actual main attack

swift geyser
#

Hello ! In the new game mode 'Super Cashball', limit the area the opposing team can access, it's really frustrating to get spawn-killed multiple times in a row.

winter maple
#

bloom/weather effects make the visibility absolute dogshit

autumn hawk
#

I am annoyed with the fact they are stopping people making cooler skins with the items I got with money.... like let me put a topper with a hoodie, let me put a mask with a full head to make cool accents to add uniqueness, LIKE why did they "PATCH" that when it was working just fine and looked nice, embark are just so picky and want everything to look the way they want, if anything slight clips over each other say goodbye to having that combo, when it get popular it gets patched for no reason.... and I know for a fact like in a lot of other games in the future people will sell accounts that have those items combos.... just cringe.

solemn linden
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now that sword is so damn strong again, PLEASE AT THE VERY LEAST remove the custom 3rd person animation of baseball bat skins, the direction an enemy is facing while charging a lunge and lunging is literally impossible to read because the upper body is constantly turning independently from the movement.... when the enemy has a default sword skin you can see in which direction they are going to lunge and counter with good aim and prediction skills, but with baseball bats there is simply no chance

crude tree
#

Heya devs, the latest update broke PS4 controller connections. The game is unplayable for me now and likely for others who use PS4 controllers.

Could you guys give it a look and determine why The Finals ignores PS4 controller connections?

remote blade
#

sword fells off the 40 degree is so restricting like the ennemis aren t dumb they not gonna line up for me also the comment saying sword is so damm strong the guy is a moron getting outplayed by some1 who has to kill you to deal dmg is a skill issue i haded a link but this fells digusting https://youtu.be/D5vJxeLw_m0

karmic sable
#

I main 3 weapons in this game. Sometimes I might swap between all 3 in a single round. 1 of them is the spear. I'm here to say that "Decreased the inner width of the hit sweep nearest to the camera, to prevent the Spear hitting objects just outside the player’s field of view, making the weapon slightly more reliable" ... is Embark pssing on our head & calling it rain. This was not a problem & your fix is not a buff. I've never once got frustrated because some object just out of view blocked the spears DMG. If it was happening, it wasn't noticed & I would argue that an unnoticeable problem isn't a problem & does not require a fix. You know what does need fixing? Getting locked in an animation for an hour after you've killed someone. Or how about a light that can infinitely dash far enough away to stay out of melee range.(3dash charges & a fast cool down, means no downtime for a smart player) A spec with no down time... Hmmm, seems STUPID. maybe fix the real stuff before you go making things up to pretend to fix.

steel mango
#

latest update gave me problems with my mouse sens, its heavily reduced, 30 feels like 10 and increasing it just makes it feel innacurate/floaty, it fixes itself for a few seconds if i alt tab in and out but then goes back. i dont think the problem is with my mouse since its fine in other games but idk

hazy skiff
#

Change the clamping rotation on the sword, 40 degrees feels like shit and literally removed the flick playstyle of the weapon, the superdash changes completely dumbs down the weapon, some of the changes are welcoming for new players but many of these changes alienate the players who have spent time to master the weapon

bleak frigate
#

Steam input is broken, game is unplayable for me since i use gyro to mouse since the game's built in gyro doesnt work for me

hybrid notch
#

Controller is not working at all for me, steam is detecting it, other games work just fine, but finals is broken…. Guess we’re don’t getting the day one tickets f

inland seal
#

turncap is implemented pretty poorly, im not opposed to the idea but instead of having it just yank control away and snap back to the middle of ur screen, why not have it decrease sensitivity as seen in games like chivalry 2 or mordhau, that way it would feel less frustrating to use, also the turncap feels pretty harsh? it makes landing lunge + qm's incredibly inconsistent against moving targets, if you dash slightly to the right or left of them you might be able to hit the lunge, but definitely not the quick melee, please consider increasing it to 90 degrees or something closer to that!!!

tldr:

turncap sucks, try to copy the turncap used in games like chivalry 2 or mordhau 2

pretty please increase turncap to 90 degrees 😇

limpid turret
#

This is the baddest update ever, buff all the cancer/no skill weapon, this is clearly no fun. We want this game to be skilled and competitiv, not another dumb game who dev listen only noobs...
And please fix servers this is so annoying

tranquil pagoda
#

Will we ever see true colorblind accessibility options? I am red/green colorblind, and in most cases, all red dot sights are nearly impossible for me to use. It's a bit baffling that despite the very good customization options for the crosshair, the sights are completely impossible to change, with not even a simple hue shift being possible.

dapper fiber
#

I'm not too sure if anyone else has had this issue, but as of the most recent update, THE FINALS application will not detect my Dualsense Edge PS5 controller I've played other games and they work fine with Steam input

teal pumice
#

What is this minigun server crash?

uncut hedge
night bough
#

Great new gamemode, but the passing system is just at an enormous disadvantage for solo queuers

karmic surge
#

another update another chance to buff fcar. but noooooooo. what are we doing genuinely 💔 🥀

fading sinew
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Cashout (World Tour and Ranked)

Any Vaults/Cash Boxes that have not been delivered to a Cashout Station by the time overtime starts will be despawned and removed from the match
Dev Note: We’ve been taking in lots of feedback related to “double stacking” two Cash Boxes in the same Cashbout Station. After doing a detailed analysis, it’s clear that the biggest frustration point is doubling the Cash Boxes during the final phase, where the total value of a single Cashout can be huge. In this scenario, the second-place team almost always loses their spot, since all three other teams are incentivized to target them. The first place wants a weaker opponent next round, while third and fourth just want to qualify. Our data shows that regardless how much cash the second place team has already secured, this doubling scenario always disproportionately affects them negatively. It often occurs during overtime as well. This change is aimed at making sure second place teams that have already secured a lot of cash are more likely to qualify, by reducing how often large stacks of cash are available in the final Cashout during overtime. This change is a test and will run from 7.6 through to 7.9, at which point its impact will be re-assessed.

Yeah, you need to remove this. This is part of the reason that makes the finals, the finals. Total chaos and a chance to come back from the randomness the game provides.

So if a team can't double, there is no point in even playing the last minute. It would be easier for a team to just sit out and chill then to die needlessly for nothing. It is a waste of time. WASTE OF TIME.

I also foresee more players running more mobility options for this reason. For example, more mediums and lights having gateways, ziplines and jump pads in reserve. This move forces players to use certain gadgets or have them in reserve even though they do not want to.

What are you thinking?

tribal spoke
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Lovely that instead of buffing dual blades thay made it so anyone with a keyboard can hit someone with the dual blades cause it practically gives you aimbot now. How about instead they get some damage buffs so it rewards skill please

bleak nexus
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This was harmless and cool. You could change it whenever you want. same as other headwear clipping outfits. Don't pull a rockstar on us harmless fashion glitches should be allowed man :/

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leaden bloom
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Anyone else experience random freezes, like total freeze, especially near enemies, its not very helpful, to say the least 😛

raw blaze
split mist
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Super cashball sucks

thorn gulch
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New Modus is complete mess, no one does know what to do, loadout is toxic AF, i prefere for cheater lobbies over this.

leaden peak
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Shine some light over SA community please, push up some ads with a different approach from the last time, you guys literally promoted the game once and aiming on a extremelly nieched streamer community.

unique shadow
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please raise the sword lunge camera lock from 40 to 140 or 180. the sword rework would be so peak if it was just a little bit higher

bright cargo
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HEllo chat

vague maple
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Okay I've played with the sword for a few hours straight now.
That 40 degrees turn lock actually feels so clunky right now, please just change it to 140 or even 180.
Only the strangest of people were doing 360s and mostly just for style rather than actually use.

Its also 40 degrees in every direction. . . So if you try to jump down on someone and aim down to them. They honestly just can just avoid it so easily.
360 was never an issue. . .

rugged vapor
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Short version:

Defib nerf was uncalled for. Removing cashoutboxes in overtime was uncalled for. Its part of the chaotic nature of the game.

Long version ( my perpective as a silver rank solo que medium player ) :

If I had to describe the finals Id say its hardcore, its demanding, competitive, raw edged, unforgiving, it fries your braincells, its chaotic and unfair.

There is nothing like this and its awesome.

See this is the thing. I like the game like this. Yes sometimes you get defibbed in the middle of the enemy team because the absolute moronic lunatik thougth it was a good idea to do so and you start cursing at your tv screen because thats the probably the 7th time this day.

Its not a problem. Its part of the game and part of its charm. I believe that the only solution is the guy with the defib ( like myself ) realising after 26 more games like " hey maybe I shouldnt run to my teamates statue and defib him with the enemy heavy flamethrower and the sh1900 near him ". I believe its a matter of experience. The defib like everything takes time to learn as a player.

For as far as my concern goes here is the thing. The defib is just an example.

Personally I dont like seeing things removed from the game that contributed ,to what I believe, is its core nature.

With that being said Im going to finish this post. Thank you for reading if you read till the end.

See you in the finals

solar hollow
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Suggestion:
Frag grenade skin that is a soda bottle & mentos. Instead of pulling the pin you drop the mentos in the soda

visual sierra
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please nerf the defibrilators even more

azure stream
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Add a popcorn bucket skin to the gravity vortex

dawn vapor
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.💀controller not working
how i supposed to play/

modest patio
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please make this limited time mode (cashball) a permanent mode. its so fun

candid tide
fierce valve
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When ranked super cashball

tiny lynx
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Make irl Yamatama merch, we need a big ol egg plushie

green spoke
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Plsssss 40 degree sword are sooo badddd I can't play with this sword. It's turn into trash right now

sleek marsh
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1.3k hour in, low ruby, only play ranked and WT

Pretty happy with the season so far. Melees being not meta and not rly viable leads to so much better fight quality and less frustration overall, but especially in casual soloq after a hard day. The new map plays rlly smooth, don't see any issues.

Ranked Points
For solos it's absolute hell from about 33k points cuz ualmost always be in Rank 1, so u gotta get at least sekund to get ur +0 or +20 at max. The enemy teams are mostly full meta stacked premades, when u mostly get a duo consisting of an turret medium with AK and light with 3 different nades. Solo Carrying is pretty hard against stacked teams, even if they r mechanically much worse.
Y, there can't be a Soloq Ranked, cuz their ain't that many players but a premade based RP system could be a good solution

Let's say solo gets u like 20% more exp, as a duo 10 and as a trio nothing.(Just random numbers here). Also make this for RP loss. Decrease it for solos, increase it for premades.

Maps:
I like them all but Kyoto BUT almost all of them r Asia themed, which I'm rly bored of since this season, visually wise. Some french, punk(solar, cyber,..), anything but sponsor and Asia the end would rly rly make the game feel more "fresh" again

abstract elbow
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What is the point of this message? My rank score did not even change. The message says it has been changed, but it did not change. Thank you for the false hope Embark

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past surge
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New update causing game to crash

solemn arrow
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ANOTHER red skin for the ARN, Embark? lol AND FOR A PAID SKIN PACKAGE

hidden heron
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I want to share my opinion about the sword buff. It's worse than it was before, the lunge is complete rubbish, it's just as uncontrollable as possible. Before, the sword was just tedious because of its lack of damage, but now it's even more unplayable.
The lunge doesn't stop even after hitting something; you can just stick it into a wall and wait for your camera to be released. If you hit an enemy with a lunge, you'll just fly off somewhere to the side without even a chance to use quick melee, so the buff is of little use when there's no way to use it.
Another primary attack buff... I think it's worth playing with the katana as a knife and unbinding the right button.
As for 40 degrees, I can say that it's just ridiculous, especially considering that you lose complete control (although when you tested it one day and the camera didn't lock on, it was strange). It was never a problem, even with the previous lunge, the enemy could dodge the lunge by jumping to the side.

frozen creek
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fak u embarke i dont u incres sword damage just make it sword can do 180 lung again bitchhhhhhhh

brisk kettle
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How old are you "im 4 years old" you are the youngest person ever! (aneurysm above me)

smoky pagoda
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Gateway should open always

real ether
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Wouldn't a couple more skirts for free to plays be nice?
Right now the only skirt that can be gotten as a free to play is the one in the progression at lvl 24.
Pants for days, but only 1 skirt...

runic bobcat
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terrible, just terrible event

true falcon
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revert sword to season 2 plz.

gloomy halo
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Event is fun. You can always not play it 🤷🏿‍♂️

dry quail
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the new ball game is simply awful, i played 5 minutes and i went to cashout. bah

untold venture
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Still waiting for a mythic SA skin embark, free money printer right there

azure orchid
vivid seal
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people will just complain about fucken anything holy shit

broken geyser
# sleek marsh 1.3k hour in, low ruby, only play ranked and WT Pretty happy with the season so...

I agree with this, rewarding solo q players with more rs and less loss of rs and vice versa for non solo q (although no penalty but just the normal amount of rs with no percentage increase)

ANOTHER THING, the removal of cashboxes at overtime - What embark should do instead is to REDUCE THE VALUE OF THE SECOND CASHBOX BY HALF.
To add to that, teams with more cash should get more rs which means it incentives first place teams to play for themselves and deposit cash without helping 3rd and 4th place teams.

civic parcel
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Todays update broke mouse sensitivity

wooden atlas
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The turn angle nerf on sword was hardly necessary (at least such a steep nerf). That said, THANK YOU SO MUCH EMBARK for giving back the lunge damage! Sword actually feels playable for the first time in almost a season. Also to all who say that melee weapons are skill-less: try them a few times. It’s not as easy as you think

trim coral
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New melee changes are ass

surreal kestrel
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Super cashball overview video doesn't have any audio, feels weird to watch in silence.

leaden tangle
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Solo queue is too bad when your teammates just don't focus on the objective and play their role.

Before somebody tell about use mic or find a team in LFG channels, I must confess I don't speak English, my pronunciation is too bad and I write with a lot of grammatical errors. So, this game is unknown for many people of LATAM

Ranked system have no mercy with players who play solo queue and use pings and text chat to communicate.

Also, why was my teammate and me punished with an RS loss?
It is too stupid every time a random player leaves the game at halftime

slate mauve
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If your gonna keep adding the Wheel of Fomo

  1. Increase Daily Ticket Contracts to 4
  2. Earn tickets parts by playing the mode
  3. dont make any reward cost multibucks. make all rewards VRs.
  4. remove the wheel entirely
  5. make it like other events...contracts = rewards.
graceful cedar
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Embark should consider adding cashball to the list of core game modes

strange quail
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If you get disconnected from a match (quick cash) you should be able to rejoin. You can rejoin ranked, terminal attack, and power shift, but I can't join back on quick cash with my homies :s

olive kelp
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I don't think I like the new cashout rules for WT and Ranked..
Thinking about it, sometimes that last second steal on a double-deposited cashout is just what a team needs to win an entire tournament! The dramatic appeal of seeing that happen in any game of The Finals is part of what makes this game so special in my opinion.

The way things were working kept OT from running too long, and de-spawning the other cashout station was good for that too, but those rules also meant that team play was SUPER important! With that in mind, if two teams are performing incredibly well, they won't have to worry about a last second steal half the time anyway, therefore rewarding good teamplay

thorny lynx
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Still no Emerald Badge patch after 2 weeks and another wheel event with 2 dups on day one. Typical Finals let down. Again... and again.... and again.... and again.... and again... and.... again

median bloom
green summit
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Dude I just LOVE rejoining a match because my POWER WENT OUT and getting suspended for 10 whole god damn minutes even though I Litteraly contributed to the team for most of the time (Fr tho the melee weapon buffs are actually fun and support different types of gameplay)

sleek topaz
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Change the 40° of the sword to 180°, 40° is simply not playable and force us to spam m1, that broke all the gameplay of the sword, reduce damage on m1, and do 180 or 360° lunge i mostly prefer before the patch, i play not anymore

hidden swan
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BUFF SH1900

prime skiff
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Flamethower absolutely needs a nerf.

tacit gate
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How do I level up my account? Is there a live marker that shows me how close I am to leveling up to make VC?

drifting topaz
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  • NERF DASH

  • NERF DB

  • NERF CL40

runic shale
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great new game mode, really great concept, but it falls flat because after a certain point gain it is pointless to continue. So people leave and it loses it's fun quickly because of that. Fun game mode but it doesn't have the win back possibliity like cashout. If it's one of those matches it's literally better to just quit to a different match.

hollow snow
terse yarrow
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Mame data reshaper able to work on dematerialized walls. Only feasible way to nerf dematerializer without feeling unfair.

naive narwhal
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Sword update so cooked it got mfs unironically just m1 spamming

simple fiber
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I think there should be a first person glove inspect when customizing your contestant, just to see how they'd actually look when playing.

cobalt kernel
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Nerf the Emerald grind.. Remove the whole Emerald 4 badge tier plus add 1 or 2 additional points per tournament

Nerf winch cringe back to 10m and lessen stun duration, it's absolutely miserable unless you just so happen to play evasive dash

On that note i would suggest replacing E. Dash with another ability or at the very least reduce it to 2 charges, to balance it out maybe increase distance traveled per dash

Add moving platforms, suspended structures (and new versions) to SYS Horizon, Las Vegas, fortune stadium. Those maps feel very stale

Nerf max. amount of Barricades that can be place to two per player

Buff breach charge fuse time

Buff Reshaper recharge time greatly

Buff pyro nade AOE

Nerf Demat recharge time

Add iron sight to sniper, increase hitscan range

TFcoin TFcoin TFcoin BRING BACK BANK IT TFcoin TFcoin TFcoin

old bear
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THE PROBLEM

Sprint cancels ADS, while auto-sprint is turned off

HOW TO REPLICATE

  1. Turn off auto sprint
  2. ADS on any gun
  3. While ADSing on any gun, use any sprint modifier, hold or toggle.
  4. You should observe that the ADS is cancelled

PROPOSED SOLUTION

Provide an in-game setting that allows the player to enable/disable ADS cancelled by sprint. It can be Enabled by default to preserve the current behaviour.

USECASE

I play on KB&M mapped to my Alpakka controller, and have sprint bound to the outer ring of my left stick. During gunfights while ADSing, it is difficult to concentrate on how far I pull my left stick. Thus, many times, I will end up canceling the ADS mid spray.

Thanks!

ornate sage
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Game give us more outfit slots and my life is yours

topaz jungle
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So, I had this long rant about dagger balancing and ya’ll suspended me for using the r-word in it’s original completely appropriate definition, but I’m gonna let that go, cause this sports ball shit is awesome. Please make this a permanent mode or its own game or something and expand it, the shit is good. EDIT: lemme wear my mask

wise swift
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add SBMM to world tour our at least implement a system that allows the game to track a players stats so that previous season high ranks dont get paired against people of lesser skill level adn rank we have stats and ranks for a reason to prove how good we are and the time weve put into the game but its ridiculous that i a person whos barely touched world tour never seen emerald, ruby, plat, and not even gold 1 im a baseline player with average stats its crazy that i have to try my hardest against people who are 3x higher than my rank or triple the amount of kills and wins than my account i just hope to see the devs put tikme into something other than skins and LTMs i want my matchmaking to feel more like i have a chance and not that im running straight into a match against 4 season back to back rubies or ermalds withb 1000 hrs and a swamp ass that i can smell throught the screen

proud skiff
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eclipse shade ks23

visual sonnet
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Controllers not working after the patch is a joke. This needs a fast fix. Also please don't give me a clearly inferior team 5 matches in a row in power shift. And when I say clearly I also meen it. How is this even possible

wanton phoenix
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I dont play as much anymore for a lot of the same reasons in which i relate to in this video.

yes I understand that this video may be a bit of a rant and a bit shallow but the main frustrations are points i can resonate with heavily.

the game feels so draining in terms of the community.

The game to me has always been lacking in terms of potential of what it can be, its a VR game show ffs (excuse my language) but there could be SO MUCH MORE per season or just seemingly more effort.

I understand that Embark is a relatively smaller dev team but cmon man, I dont wanna push them into overworking but Cashout feels like its missing something, it has a really good base but I wish I knew what it needed but im afraid i dont know

Furthermore, i HATE how much they listen to the community that is the damn reddit and youtubers and just go on a nerf tirade, nerf nerf nerf nerf
like
think about why these weapons such as the xp 54, cerberus, sword etc were popular, BECAUSE THEYRE GOOD and FUN compared to the rest, does that mean they need a nerf? mayyybe but its more of a problem of why the other weapons are considered weaker or less fun

Additionally, the microtransactions in this game are setting up the foundation for even more predatory prices and items,
for example the ultimate BP costing around pretty much HALF to almost the FULL price of a AAA game, just shy of the full price of Arc Raiders, like, "the game is free" my ahh, If you fail to see how this is just absurd and I refuse to even converse with you.

"Flat Pricing Across Currencies Is Anti-Consumer. Charging nearly half the price of a AAA+ game for a Battle Pass that’s basically just reskins is diabolical use of FOMO. Rolling out an expensive new tier while players are complaining about core gameplay issues feels tone-deaf, and being okay with it gives them green light to keep ignoring us." - u/pandemon1um_

Im tired of coping for this games full potential each update and season, i truly love the game but im tired

fierce sequoia
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There is a cosmetic bug now in the main menu.

If I select a light contestant as my selected constant, then go to a heavy, say with a sledge, go into the contestant edit for the heavy and back out quickly,

I can see the light holding a sledgehammer 😆😅

Purely cosmetic. On Xbox at least

wispy plank
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how ppl feeling about update?

icy marsh
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The devs have actual brain dmg - won’t be playing until they fix the sword. Insane plays. Arrogant devs don’t deserve players

You have actually disrespected peoples time. You killed the weapon completely. Good job I guess - seems like u did it on purpose. Can I enjoy the game playing with guns? Yea. Will I be playing the game? No.

If I wanted to play a shooter I would. This game used to be different and fun. I will not be playing anymore.

The skill ceiling has been lowered completely. There is no more movement. Might as well not dash. They called lunge dash a bug.. In season 7 by the way…
They’ve decided to punish players with 1000s of hours of muscle memory - who learned howto time a lunge, dash, then strafe, then bunny hop. All simple and real features of the game, no abusing, spamming, swapping, nothing that I deemed an unintended mechanic, was involved in what you call “a super dash” I call that lunge dash. Because it’s literally just those two things you put into the weapon that drew me to this game in the first place back in season 2.

Punishing time put into mechanics is literally the fastest way to loose loyal players. The fact that an entire teams of devs doesn’t realize that - and took over an entire season to put this out - is not only embarrassing but also disrespectful. I can only assume that you do not care to learn or listen to players who understand your game better than you do. Ego, arrogance or laziness I’m not sure - but I fr expected more from the team behind bf4.

My disappointment is immeasurable.

tardy pendant
# wispy plank how ppl feeling about update?

I like it, the new game mode is fun and I think the melee buffs are nice since I’ve seen people complain about it in the past. I do think that sword should only lock the hitbox and not the camera though when you do a super lunge thing, but other than that it’s nice.

gritty turtle
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Thanks for releasing in china before adding any sort of skill based matchmaking to the main game, those are some real good priorities 🫩

simple ether
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I see the auto-aim sword cheats are in full effect again.

covert dagger
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"In a game with so many weapons of incredibly varied styles, some will always be more accessible and others more niche, that’s the reality of building weapons that are so asymmetric to one another. Melee weapons, shotguns, sniper rifles and bows tend to be more niche because they exist at the extremes of balance: very short or very long ranges, very fast or very slow fire rates, etc. This makes them notoriously hard to balance". This is copied and pasted from your recent patch notes under "Viablity". It perfectly describes the most fundamental and glaring issue in the game which is the self created impossibility of balance in the name of catering to niches and flooding content.

tidal siren
past ibex
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5v5 ranked cashout/powershift

spare ravine
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I don't recall people asking for Bluetooth primary attacks instead of just actual reg reworks and some base stat reworks on melee, - buff it, nerf it, just at least show you listen to the right things because I swear no one complained about primary attacks xD, and now all you have enabled are people spamming left click on melee not utilising the secondary attack that actually takes time and skill to learn for each unique melee weapon

quartz folio
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Why should the sword be able to do a 360 lunge attack that hits multiple opponents that’s just ridiculous. Sword is not the dagger. Now I’m not a sword main and I have no right to dictate what the nerf or buff should be but I can give an opinion. What the devs did for the sword is reasonable.

clever island
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The rotation lock ruins sword have to stop playing now

ruby dew
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Thank you to finally put an end to the sword... after the first nerf you left it bleading in agony, now you at least killed it completely.
You really give us the best weapon you ever made and then you took it from us, for what? some fat kids crying cuz it was too OP when it was never OP?... Right. fuck you devs. Not playing this shit again.

Speak up brothers!!! WE WANT THE Season 3-4 sword back!!!!!
@quartz cedar @plain pewter

quartz cedar
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What in the name of the lord did you guys do to the sword?
Limiting turn radius feels VERY BAD. ANYTHING would be better, even a damage reduction.

Look into a different way of balancing sword, this is NOT it.

Limiting turn radius is a bad idea, it removes all fluidity from play, freedom of movement, and makes the game feel incredibly clunky, when YOUR GAME is supposed to be ANYTHING else than that (?)

I also don't play sword much, my sword is lvl 4 (red), but I came to your game because of the special gameplay, and the option to play melee weapons when I was bored of playing guns.
That was one thing that separated your game from other games.
I strongly disagree with a design choice like the turn limit. For me that design is against everything I believed your game stood for. Fluidity in movement, etc.

manic seal
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Winch nerf nobody talks about… I apparently can’t winch the box from someone stealing anymore. 3 entire plays where it didn’t work and we lost the game. Yesterday I could do it with my eyes closed. Also (not a big deal) you can’t “wiggle” the winch claw anymore as it has been deployed

obtuse scarab
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We need to finish the trifecta; Terry the Turret, Chuck the healing ball, and next: Gary the Gateway

dark flicker
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As a medium main who has been running defib since the betas, just remove it at this point.

it has been debuffed so much in the past and now with the new "debuff" it just makes movement feel so ass with it and also feels super unsatisfying to use now

and not only that, this debuff is not gonna change anything about defib usage, as an extra 0.2 second charge up time is not gonna do anything besides making the game feel terrible to play

removing it would make the gameplay feel better, and would allow other gadgets to take up the slot it would previously take

as a movement addict, I would love to replace it with goo, but it is still busted so I have to use it

also please buff model or cerb or something that does high damage at close range I am addicted to movement and this game likes to butcher my playstyle entriely

I have to play light db + dash now for any satisfaction

the balancing issues are the main reason why I play this game significantly less now

hoary gate
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I feel sad for all the sword mains. However, I was a ks-23 winch main and embark nerfed the rechamber animation cancels from melee and winch and I complained for 3 seasons and nothing changed. Truly, I think embark cares more about the noob players and how they feel than anyone who genuinely knows and loves the game. Skill based mechanics are good for the game and I’d like to see embark stop removing them from their unique weapons and play styles but I imagine it’ll keep happening until all you see is meta machine guns like you already see way too much of.

cyan cairn
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Make a party mode for quick play!!!!!

Except add the LTMS that have already passed, so we have a variety of game modes to play besides Quick Cash, TDM, Terminal Attack and Powershift!!!!

This way, technically you guys can add Bank It back too

(Not my idea a streamer said this aka DevSolo)

wraith igloo
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Defib change did absolutely nothing, still get ressed in front of enemies non stop. Maybe make the statue glow hot while its within x proximity of an active gunfight, or something?

open igloo
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Can we PLEASEEEE get an all black variant for these model of boots? Pretty please???

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sturdy heron
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if you say you're banning kernal hacks maybe you should actually follow through... otherwise you're making a rly bad bluff and announcing to the world that you don't know what you're doing and then hackers skyrocket. This shit went from 1/20 games to twice per round in the week

covert oxide
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Hey so I posted in main chat by mistake. Gonna say it here.

Obviously there's complaints about sword. Every change you ever do will get complained about at first by those weapon mains. I understand that. But I think this one is a little different.

Four months ago, or however long ago that was, when sword got nerfed, everyone was mad. It was frustrating, because everyone knew the damage was suddenly very underpowered. Wake up one day, and now I can't even finish off this light? Game changing. But it was a numbers nerf, the weapon still felt the same.

I was bothered, but I decided to stick with the weapon. Hundreds of hours, thousands of kills, always with a mathematical disadvantage on dps. About a month ago, I began to really enjoy the game again. I had stopped relying on balanced damage amounts, and had leaned deep into the control and finesse aspect. Super patient, way more careful, quicker reactions, better decisions. I increased my team cohesion, I improved my objective play, and I worked my K/D up to a respectable 1.01. Almost exclusively using the nerfed sword.

I didn't play sword because it's the easiest or the best. It isn't, and I don't want it to be. It should be good, maybe even great. Not hyper-competitive or broken. It should be viable, but never easy to master.

I played sword because it was fun. In my opinion, it's the weapon with some of the most control and finesse in the game. When hot in the middle of combat, it requires near perfect decision making, and vigilance to change in a split second, all at high intensity. But what I have grown to love, is the patience, and discretion required to know if, when, and how to engage with enemies, and how to coordinate with teammates.
In my opinion, sword has one of the highest combinations of mechanical skill, and high game sense required in order to master. It is tiring to see people complaining about "sword auto-aimers whining". It's simply not the case.

The damage buff to lunge was always understood as necessary. 115 or 120 would make it viable again. The damage increase on the main attack wasn't necessary. I believe 74 was very fair, if you left the timing where it was, too. The distances and lunge speed also weren't necessary; if anything I think they restrict the amount of control the player has.

But that 40 degree restriction and the clunky feeling dash combo simply ruin the class. It takes all the skill and control away from the player, and leaves you feeling like a sledgehammer heavy with 150 health.

The fun is gone. It's no longer a weapon I can trust to follow my commands. I am no longer in control, I am just here, watching, hoping my newly buffed damage gets the kill faster than the other player's gun. No more awesome plays, certainly no more cashout steals. There's no more life in what used to be a dynamic and challenging weapon.

And that makes me sad.

What's the most frustrating is that now I either have to give up on this beloved weapon, or start again brand new, learning something that now feels very foreign. Why can't you balance without completely changing the style of play?

Maybe I can keep playing The Finals, like I want to. Maybe I just need to bite my tongue and completely relearn my beloved weapon. Maybe in another four months I'll be brave enough to play ranked with sword again. Will its mechanics get ruined again by then? I'm worried they will.

Can I take the risk of sticking around to find out?

I honestly don't know.

And that makes me sad . . .

lusty furnace
cold bolt
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  • The change to cashout vaults 5&6 doesn't prevent the doubling situation 95% of the time since that typically occurs BEFORE overtime. Genuinely, if you are 3rd/4th place with 2k dollars to your name by the third wave of boxes, you deserve to lose, enough of this doubling by the 1st place to grief out 2nd place. Just remove vault 6 already, or at least make it take time to deposit like some have suggested (7s, same as a steal maybe).
  • Sword "rework" and "buffs" have effectively killed sword for good. Prior to this rework, it was actually still just barely usable in the higher elos if you're cracked enough. Not anymore though. This weapon is done for. Good job, Embark. You did EXACTLY as everyone was fearing.
  • S3 Ruby Card Badge still not rewarded halfway into S7 despite being promised it since late S6.
  • New gamemode is mostly a W, I'd tie it with Heavy Hitters
  • Wheel returns again 🤡
jaunty tulip
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We need hot fix or in the next store update there to be a Sword BUFF AND FIX. you guys have destroyed the entire weapon along with its comunity

spice zenith
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This new game mode is not fun

potent hinge
winter pumice
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does anyone know why controllers on pc just don't register anymore like I've done the normal disable steam input and it just refuses to acknowledge my controller but it registers on every other game

versed knot
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Remove the 40° restriction on sword pls, its worse now than it was before

@pulsar sundial yeah its cheeks

pulsar sundial
summer yoke
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These last two LTMs have been terrible. I don't want to play some garbage half thought bs that is obviously just Embark getting feedback on certain weapons. Not fun

mortal sinew
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add some random teammates variations, i dont wanna be queueing with the same dumbasses that throw the game for 4 games in a row makes solo queueing difficult af and unplayable

covert halo
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BRING BACK SIRYELLOWJACKET

loud lark
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bring back bank it

grand crow
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Controller stopped working with this last update. I also downloaded a game called soulframe and messed with my steam input for that, but I've since reset my steam input setting and it still isn't working, so I think it was the update.

rare prawn
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Petition to put a weapon changes pop up when the game starts, like only once every updates that changes stuff around
because I started the game thinking "oh yeah normal ok, maybe they changed some damage here and there I will figure it out"
but then they made the ks23 unusable because the muscle memory of hitting the slug is useless with "HyBriD HitScAnS" , the defibrillator takes longer even with the same sound and animation
the sword now only needs two hits to kill lights and most melees had their ranges and angles changed so EVERYTHING is weird to use because there was no notes talking about a whole full rework in the entire fucking melee category
the ks23 which was kind of useful and fun before, but now is useless with low damage SUPER SLOW rate of fire and impossible to aim because the slug has VARIABLE SPEEDS that changes according to the range, for gods sake a light can put an entire mag in your face while you pump a single round in that gun, variable speed slugs make no sense and don't work with this gun, its too slow and short range for it
yes this change worked with the sniper BECAUSE IT WAS A SNIPER RIFLE FOR SUPER LONG RANGES, it worked in the sniper because it has a absolutely horrible hip fire and a global range with no damage reduction
the shotgun doesn't have that, it runs out of damage after 20m and a light can almost outrun it using dash

unborn garnet
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Server buff?

cerulean garden
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How to fix sword, because this was not it. - sword main since s1
Don't lock the angle that you can look with a stiff angle cap. That makes the movement feel really clunky and unrefined. With a game this fluid, nothing should feel like that.
Instead, have a gradual damage drop off based on your angle of momentum vs viewing angle.
For Example:
140 damage if you're looking within 2.5° of your momentum.
Then decrease by 1 damage for every 1° that you look away from your momentum direction.

This keeps movement fluid while still limiting rotational flick damage.