👂┇game-feedback

[bold ocean]

Just a friendly reminder that there's a bug that disables player movement after getting Defibbed.

[dry smelt]

this season is just noob toob spam bruh

[nocturne stirrup]

True

[icy marsh]

You buffed heals, buffed explosives and nerfed melee - thanks for ruining the only fun part of your game for me

[uncut hedge]

nerf CL, remove infuser, this season was boring

[verbal prawn]

Suggestion:
Add freecam mode in private solo matches/spectator option so you can fly around with freecam, adjust camera angle, etc to take screenshots for thumbnails

[stray dagger]

For the love of all that's good, please, please, PLEASE NERF THE CL-40.

[indigo pagoda]

Nerf CL-40's splash radius and nerf the infuser, Double Barrel, and Throwing Knives.

[frosty notch]

tired of saying it.. TAKE THE WALLS EVENT OUT PLS (and don’t make it a random thing that pops up like low grav) after it gets taken out

[hollow imp]

I AGREE WITH THIS GUY ITS SO BAD FOR THE GAME I DO APPERCIATE YOU TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT BUT ITS JUST AWFUL

[versed vault]

if your bad with light its just on you

[hallow wyvern]

It's just 1 day left so just waiting for Thursday update, and the event will go away, what I'm afraid of is that they keep it like gravity and meteorite and it's going to be random that's my

[swift notch]

Update the Tutorials for World Tours, Quick Cash and Rank Please. Thanks

That's all.

[tough frost]

Serious server issues increased drastically over the last 24 hours, hopefully a fix coming soon?

[mossy herald]

there is a stark lack of quality green cosmetics, please you'll get my money if you make some! Where's my not military not goofy green cosmetics like pleaaaase.... give green an ounce of the love you give purple and I'll be happy. I don't even mind if it's just different colorways of existing outfits. Plz more green <3

[unkempt bridge]

Stop punishing weapons for indirect causes and fix those issues instead, 99% of the frustration is from the scuffed netcode and server performance, there is no reason dash should cause such bad desync. In general there is so much latency, especially when updating the player model (if you grab a canister and spin you can very visibly see the canister move before the player model). The player model also isnt accurate to the backstab vector, in cases like mantling, ladders, or some weapons and gadgets, most common with heavys i believe like with minigun which has them slightly canted which makes a huge difference especially after the completely unnecessary angle nerf that, again, didn't fix the core problem. a good 90% of the time i die is because by the time i start registering damage its almost always too late and i will die after dashing around a corner or hitting a gateway or hitting them with null (which is supposedly hitscan but maybe not, small pet peeve nothing big). If you want melee viable like you say you do and encourage off meta loadouts and unique playstyles (WHY DID YOU GUT A CORE MECHANIC OF DAGGER LIKE TURRET BACKSTAB LIKE IT WAS NOTHING) then return them to their previous state, sword has been gutted especially with heals, dagger is locked to dash (or grapple if you are a masochist), sledge is pretty much locked to wench, severely limiting playstyles. The movement nerfs force us to play even more ratty because we have to to be viable. There is not enough reward for reducing your ranged damage to 0. The map nearly determines your fate based on if its open or not, it needs high dps to be viable at melee range. A lot of us are beyond annoyed and exhausted with the terrible balance and janky hitreg.

Also side tangent, please make an option to where i only mantle if im holding space i have so many times where a charge is cancled because i bumped a ledge or had to stab someone on a ledge, or make it to where you cant mantle while charging.

[echo radish]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/hYAYGK1mVg https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/RgRBMEwAzF remember folks Just yeeting damage of CL-40 will make this happen again we need proper fix rather than just gutting weapon out of the meta by unable to perform

[tacit whale]

Increase the self damage on the cl40 for god sake

@neat yoke do you even play the game lol ?

[neat yoke]

that does nothing lol

also can we get a cloak buff?

[signal valley]

how can i report a bug or glitch

[cyan sable]

Cloak needs a rework that gives it actual skill to use, it isn't fun at all to use.

[placid acorn]

idk I have fun with it, just needs different playstyle

[noble saddle]

this community toxic af yall ever try solo queing ? Even if you are being a good teamate and postitive people will go out of their way to make you feel below them. Should I be surprised ? No of course not ! Embark seriously needs to moderate their in game chat or at least enforce good behavior and slam on the bad. thats my ted talk EDIT I should be able to leave a game if players are being abusive , I feel like im being held hostage by teens that only know racial slurs lol.

[orchid osprey]

Fix these fucking terrible servers, I haven't been able to play the game with revolver for longer than 15 minutes since last season. Game is becoming unfun how BAD its getting. Put me in a server with people on my side of the ocean. What is happening?

[plush parrot]

Best thing I've seen

[rose basin]

The Cl-40 is not overpowered, however it is way too easy to use and does not have a deep skill curve. In a 1 v 1 Medium fight, I need to hit every single shot in order to win the fight vs the Cl, while the Cl user roughly has to hit 3 shots in and around the target's feet. This is also why I think the Cl-40 won't compete in upper diamond / ruby ranks, those players will usually hit every single shot in most 1 v 1 scenarios. It's a weapon that remains frustrating to casual - gold players and starts to fall of in platinum ranks and above. I think, as other people have said, the solution is to simultaniously buffing and debuffing the weapon by rewarding less damage for misses, higher damage for direct hits and going from there. Self-damage in this scenario should remain high in order to reward the skill of predicting enemy movement and getting direct hits from a short-medium distance, rather than just playing like a double barrel light user and coming 1 inch from the enemy, unloading 3 shots immediately and tanking the damage for the kill.

[odd sparrow]

Exactly, the CL 40 isn't overpowered, just unfun to fight against.

[pure obsidian]

Y'all should increase the numbers by double. By making a single bar have 50 HP instead of 25.

And do the same thing for everything else, double it. Currently I've noticed the difference between decreasing damage by 1 on a smg, for example XP54 and model is really difficult to balance from what I see. It took quite a bit of changes to make it balanced enough but still not Enough.

Just double the numbers or make the numbers now become 0.5, even tho it might feel weird implementing it. It will help a lot in balancing these kinds of weapons.

[storm tide]

LETS MAKE MELEE GREAT AGAIN

[brave dagger]

Its time to change the default medium specialisation back to heal beam. Changed because of terminal attack ofcourse, but seeing how terminal attack is now more of a niche mode it seems fair to return it to how it used to be.

Heal beam is better for newer players since it gives them a way to make an impact in a game that isnt very hard to do. It also reinforces good habbits by making them stick to their teammates more, and in turn their teammates to them since they also started out playing heal beam and know its limitations.

Turret on the other hand deserves some buffs. Its function now is juist being a nuisance. Now buffing its damage or range or antyhing else is probably a bad idea because it would destroy newer lobbies. But maybe let it target people with a 360 view cone. Maybe let it shoot trough smoke so some synergies and counterplays (of smoking the cashout) emerge.

You guys are probably using protocol Xpose as data for the potential return for recon senses. Feedback so far has been pretty negative, myself included. But maybe thats because of how its implemented that everyone has it at the same time. A single pulse with a medium long cooldown seems like a better option to me. That way prefiring corners is allot harder, and there is more counterplay since you can determine where the pulse came from.

[rotund gust]

PLEASE GIVE BULLSEYE BARRY THE TARGET DUMMY VOICE

[white sundial]

I got banned for not playing a pointless, lost game, I got AFK or committed suicide asking not to respawn me. As a result, I get a ton of negativity and abuse of player abilities or map items. It all starts with the question of why this or that player did not help (in response, you get a ton of toxicity). The paradox is that you are banned, not him (even if you did not use any insults). I am ready to wait for an hour to find a game just to not get caught with hopeless toxic players or pay for a subscription so as not to see them in the team at all. Left the match = BAN, Decided to just wait out the match = BAN, Trying to give advice to a player and his gentle nature took it as an insult = Ban. Why not just limit such people's access to the general search system (the DOTA 2 decency system)

[quick coyote]

The finals needs more map variants added. When i first started playing in season 1 and i saw the sanstorm vegas map and the raised center in skyway stadium, i thought to myself, "This is cool, wonder how many other variants ther are?" Since season one im pretty sure all weve had is moving platforms in kyoto and elevated areas in monaco. They just dont have the same game changing feel that the sandstorm vegas had.

My suggestions at the moment for new maps:

1. Volcanic monaco
   Streams of lava going through the map, dealing butn damage when plahers get too close. These paths of lava have also destroyed some of the buildings in the area
2. Snowstorm kyoto
   Thos is just kyoto with a new skin slapped on it and occasional piles of snow blocking enterances.
3. Fortune stadium sponsor swap
   All this does is change the maps sponsor sectiouns around. Would it make sense architecturaly, prolly not, but I thought it might be cool?

[keen fractal]

Embark pls nerf CL40......

[warm cliff]

Someone tell me why my whole ahh lobby is running sniper camping on top of the f****** church and when im trying to steal the cashout while gooing every single angle off the just burn that b**** down and kill me

[hard juniper]

Why am I going against rubies while I'm in gold. I'm not even good.

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the first swing damage in the combo from 65 to 70 making it 70, 80, 90 and increase the spin attack damage to 120

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either give it a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block all melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it's bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

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[sick crown]

Day 4 of telling embark to nerf the gren launcher for med

And the smg’s for light

[tawdry tree]

+1 👌

[night spindle]

here are some quality of life changes that would be nice to see

1) make more use of the contestant cards. theyre a great idea but they need more use than just being showed to the player youve killed or for 10 seconds at the end of the match for your team. there is no such thing as a "player profile" for the finals so this can be that just "show contestant card".

2) please give me the ability to change sights in game. like whats the point of *not * having this? this would probably not be in wt or ranked but just add it to casual modes, this would be so helpful

3) match history. all i want to see are my stats for like the past 10 or 15 matches and the people i played with, which is basically the leaderboard at the end of the game. this would be such an easy but helpful addition i feel like

**4) ** crosshair presets, really helpful, seems easy to add, everybody would love it 🙏 ❤️ ❤️

[faint sable]

I adore this game but Quick cash isn't it for me. Unlocking, transporting and caturing the cash, putting in 99% of the work and then at the last few seconds your team gets pushed and crushed by both other teams for you to earn fuck all is just unrewarding. They should do it off of a percentage of cash from each extraction instead. For example, if I've been extracting for 40% of the cashout give our team 4k. Like a live cash transfer, it would make this game mode so interesting and closer. Every second is like $100 or something cool. Just a thought, my opinion. All love

[finite torrent]

Add a shuffle playlist

[dire escarp]

Nerf cl-40, every match all teams use this no skill shit.
Buff hammer
Buff winch
YOU RUINED THE FUN PART OF THE GAME EMBARK

[thorny lynx]

Yo EMBARK.... Sit here for a moment and listen real, REAL close. There 100% better be a self dmg nerf to the CL-40 tomorrow or you have lost your minds. Please get with the program, get these wall hacks out of the game and give the CL the 1.6x self dmg mult THAT WAS PERFECT THE FIRST TIME YOU DID IT AND NOT RUIN THINGS

[ornate olive]

This is my last season in this game if you don't fix the matchmaking system I won't play against ruby ​​s4 players in the gold league if I had platinum last season, best regards

[tribal hinge]

Why is every match like pro league? match making has been horrible for me lately rip

[raw bobcat]

GETTING GRIEFED IN WORLD TOUR
Getting griefed in a world tour match is so annoying, we are like 28k and the first is 36k and the last cashout a team that is deadlast with 6k earned gets the last cashout double and wins the match.. like what 🙏

[timid briar]

There should be an option to equip emotes on to outfits, I've been wanting this for a while now, I just think it would be a good idea.👍

[exotic anvil]

I seriously think EMBARK needs to stop catering to these serial complainers and start doing real balance work.

Most people whining for nerfs all day walk around like their gameplay is flawless — and the moment they die, they assume the weapon or build that killed them is busted and demand that it be nerfed ASAP.

If they get killed by a melee attack, they’ll come sprinting into the feedback channel sobbing, “40 damage with no cooldown or reload? That’s broken and makes for an awful experience!” And then they’ll start begging you to nerf melee to 1 damage, slap a cooldown on it, and maybe shrink the hitbox while they’re at it. Why not go all the way?

You guys seriously need to tune out this kind of noise. It's just empty whining that doesn't help the game at all. This nerf-everything cycle is only making the game feel slow, lifeless, and more frustrating — no wonder players keep leaving.

Unlike the people screaming “NERF CL-40” in the feedback channel all day, players like me — who actually enjoy the game — want to see every weapon feel powerful, with proper balance, so the game can be faster and actually fun.
Shotguns and melee weapons should hit hard because they come with high risk. That’s the whole point.
Why are we always digging through the trash pile just to find one barely usable weapon and forced to stick with that one? We want to use a variety of weapons — not be punished for trying something different.

[viral trail]

Gas goes through floors and walls.. come on

[barren hare]

The new map continues to be unplayable with stutters every 3 seconds on all graphic settings

[tawdry eagle]

@Embarkstudios
Love the choices we had got so far in game but please for the love of the grind, sponsorship choices and achievements do not bring the isul-t iconclast model facewear back for everyone to purchase. Atleast if you are, make a last tier in sponsorship. Let players grind for it.
Thank you

[drifting topaz]

NERF CL40

[autumn oyster]

next day, first match and once again the same wonderfully balanced and fun gameplay

[echo radish]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/hYAYGK1mVg https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/RgRBMEwAzF remember folks Just yeeting damage of CL-40 will make this happen again we need proper fix rather than just gutting weapon out of the meta by unable to perform. No self damage bullshit, no reducing damage, just remove the linear explosive damage falloff and we talk.

[thick cliff]

Ion give a fuck about if cl40 need to be nerfed just make shit balanced on this game
Never seen a no skill weapon on this game until i saw cl40 that shit u can just keep spaming it u will use no gadget no movement just some no skill shit its ridiculous
Nerf it rework it idk make other weapons more balanced to go against them change something the game feels off

[fickle linden]

-feedback

[spiral light]

Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

[vital vault]

Sword and shield skin for Riot shield please

[empty junco]

NERF CL40 FIRE RATE RELOAD AND RADIUS!

[sick forum]

as a light main since OB, Cl-40 is not OP. it’s one of the most straightforward to counter with just the slightest bit of strategy. it also keeps me and other lights from running off to die alone somewhere for no reason. BUFF MORE for the love of all things good, ur nerfing urself into the ground with all these balance changes. sledge should also be buffed back to where it was, coming from someone who sucks with sledge and Cl-40, they’re fine

[smoky gust]

with how unfun a 3-5 stacked steamroll can be, please dont punish the loosing team further with a 5 second leave penalty, it does nothing but alienate those already having a bad time

also please consider tightening matchmaking, to make sure at least larger stacks get a fairer matchup against similar sized groups
or perhaps adding an xp boost to compensate the team fighting an uphill battle and make actually sticking around worth it
(especially since groups already get similar boosts despite getting an easier time instead)

[marsh gyro]

Hey devs, are you able to do a console only que? Like PlayStation and Xbox? When you disable crossplay? I would really appreciate that 🙂

[naive narwhal]

yo add +5 damage to spear m1 trust

[sonic arrow]

Nerf cl40

another niche pick that appears annoying but never overpowered

yeah lets keep nerfing things that arent guns

embrace the full auto meta, the finals will become a CoD game

[wicked hound]

UNNERF HAMMER

[limber verge]

Embark please nerf @waxen bear’s mom she’s ruining the fun for me every time she walks in Cloudid gets a quint kill please nerf

[young scroll]

increase self damage on cl40 thats the only nerf needed

[fleet sundial]

Whats meta rn

[round goblet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/hYAYGK1mVg https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/RgRBMEwAzF

Adjust Self-Dmg slightly back to a fairly punishable state and rework linear explosive damage falloff not to be brainless noob friendly for missed shots. Don't yeet the damage of CL-40 we need proper fix rather than just gutting weapon. AN ACTUAL FIX NOT A BAND-AID one

Same goes for Light melee Weapons rn, we fkin need to buff / compensate their slowed down mobility like dagger receiving the worst rework ever accumulating to atleast 5 major nerfs that some are even disguised as good willed buffs which aren't. Also why does Sword / Dagger Exist rn when SH1900 who does melee's actual job but in steroids? Put that shotgun back in line in its range capability, 1 shot potential (Sword/Dagger vs Sh1900) always result in Sh1900 abuser winning in similar skill brackets making Melee players need to fight more indirectly resulting in 100% avoidance only entering sh1900 territory only when they are reloading. Both players know that the dagger/Sword 100% not winning that one if both don't miss their shots which is always the case both having above-average aim. Pre Sword state can albeit somewhat beat Sh1900 but now its reduced to an empty shell.

[open void]

PLEASE add a sh1900 animation set

[dusty igloo]

Just fully remove the quick play grind, its worthless, I dont want to spend my time playing quick play

[echo oak]

LETS MAKE MELEE GREAT AGAIN

[dreamy geode]

I love the game but the matchmaking makes no sense

[sterile yew]

fk this game the matchmaking is making it so hard to have fun

[waxen olive]

why cant we emote in the lobby 😥

[rancid pine]

CL-40 is making the game absolutely unplayable

[rustic tinsel]

If this game is just going to become another generic FPS like all the others, what's the point of playing it?
You’ve already killed off the hammer, dagger, and sword, so are you planning to leave only ARs and DMRs as viable options?
What’s next — nerfing the grenade launcher, then the flamethrower?
This game is slowly turning into just another generic shooter. You're ruining the game with your own hands.

Revert melee nerfs.

[waxen bear]

She’s to op fr 🙏 😭

[fringe schooner]

hey guys when are are going to balance the double barrel?

[jagged vapor]

for competitive modes there should be a class cap of 2 cause its physically impossible to fight a coordinated triple medium team or heavy team

[tame chasm]

fix the goddamn winchclaw no reg garbage and it makes me shoot 30 times and non of them are real shots

[frozen tree]

Day 10: Here we go again (I’m sorry I keep repeating this it’s just easier than coming up with new stuff each time)

Big wishlist:
Revert sword nerf (PLEASE give it 140 lunge damage, it needs it)
Revert dagger nerf (let it backstab turrets again, and increase the angle or make the charge faster)
Revert sledge nerf (at least the left click part)
Also with the sledge buff, nerf winch! It’s the problem!
Give riot shield’s baton a wider hitbox, as right now it’s really janky to try and hit lights
Buff dual blades damage
Make CL-40 harder to use, it’s too easy for the reward it can give. This is a big contention point, so let me state my case. Weapons like melee and snipers are difficult to use, but very rewarding. Ars, lmgs, smgs, etc are easy to use, but less rewarding. I think CL-40 tries to be a kind of in between, but it is too easy to use right now. I think if it was slightly more difficult to play with, this would balance it.
Make breach drill faster and a maybe a bigger explosion
Bring back grenade grappling, and make it easier or reduce grapple cooldown
Make m11 a close range option, XP a mid range one, and ARN a longer range one. Same thing with AKM, FCAR, and famas, respectively
Make heal ball work like guardian turret, not going on cooldown until destroyed/picked up and can be directly or remotely picked up, giving different levels of charge depending on which one it is
Nerf h+ healing a bit
Fix performance and freezing
Let us unlock the ultimate battlepass rewards as the $20 tier, and the 20 extra levels be part of the $30
There may be more, but this is what I think for now, and I’m open to suggestions and (constructive) criticism

[pseudo leaf]

don't make you get matched with blocked players. i blocked the guys for 2 season and i am getting force to play with them. 0 coms 2 turret like heavy players.

[surreal meadow]

make low graphic settings actually low so my game doesnt crash looking at nothing

why the fuck is ray tracing still on when every setting is at Low and Off

[broken crest]

DEAR EMBARK TEAM
DEAR EMBARK TEAM
I have one thing to say and that is that you should buff mele weapons like sword hammer and dagger but why are you nerfing them at all I haven't seen anyone complaining in the community except (appoh) so I ask you if you don't want to lose players to buff them in the next update thanks

[brittle arch]

For Cashout Ranked if someone leaves on purpose or gets banned start-mid way through the game why does my teammate and I still lose/gain the same amount of ranked points. We're first seed and our heavy gets banned as soon as the game started and I'm projected to lose ~1500 ranked points for expectedly losing most 2v3 fights. The amount you lose is probably calculated before the match even starts and can't change which makes sense. But, there should be some sort of rollback for leavers, players getting banned, cheaters who get banned later, etc. This should include if one of your teammates was cheating and you lose that RR later when they get banned, and when one of your teammates leave/get banned which should give you back the RR you lose. I've probably lost 7-8k RR from teammates getting banned/leaving. Seems rather unfair as it drastically slows my climb to a hault need 7-8 really good games to get that back most most of the time more.

[cold rock]

Remove/vault/rework dematerializer, game has been worse ever since demat has been added

[sterile wharf]

I feel like it would benefit the practice range if on the outside area of the practice range (like the outdoorsy looking thing) embark could add a terminal similar to the one at the place where you do challenges but in this terminal you can pick different environments (like the environments in kyoto and other maps), game events (like meteor shower, low gravity, etc.), and times of day or weather (like night, day, noon, rain, dust storm from vegas) and this could help people get even better practice in dealing with the multiple different environments of THE FINALS.

[torpid kindle]

dagger : add the option to tap to backstab, like it was pre season 4, and if doing so, receive no movement speed penalty while charging up the backstab
sword : also add the option to tap to lunge, keep the movement penalty while charging though. buff lunge dmg back to 140, make it so each lunge hit gets progressively weaker to avoid team wide 140dmg, reduce the time where the hitbox is active on lunge, and potentially look into dashlunge nerfs with basekit lunge compensation buffs

dual blades : make the third hit actually do damage, make deflect more consistent if possible, and otherwise look into having combo hits 1 & 2 swing both swords at the same time instead of one after the other
riot shield : honestly mostly fine imo, just fix the desync between what opponents see and the actual physical object that blocks bullets

sledge : give us m1 + qm on lights and m2 m2 on hebies (so ig 110dmg m1 and 175dmg m2), sledge was fine, it's winch that needs looking into
spear : add spin cancel as an official feature in the game with none of the movement jank attached

[spiral comet]

The left hand position for right click throwing knives is very obstructive esp when ur jumping around. Maybe moving the hand a little would be nice

[untold venture]

buff winch? the strongest and easiest to use heavy spec in the game? ge ge bro you have a gigantic brain

[inland cove]

Pls give us Ranked Powershift
Not as the main ranked mode (that should stay as box mode) but as a secondary one.

[languid niche]

I regret saying to place the new map more frequently. Can’t play a single game without it crashing (PS4 HDD moment)

[versed gull]

Perfect suggestions, couldn't agree more!

Embark please make melee viable again create reasons to use different weapons in different scenarios like OP is suggesting.

[tacit whale]

Increase the self damage to the CL40 and it’ll be balanced. There are too many noobs using it at point blank range with 0 consequence Or buff the rpg so it does the same self damage as the CL 40😈

[mossy vector]

Can you fix or improve the colorblind modes? When I use a mode like Deuteranope, which still has a team be purple, a different team shows up as purple for me than it does for the rest of my team. So I’ll see one team as purple, but my teammates see a different team as purple. It’s super confusing and messes with gameplay. Also, none of the modes let me tell the cashout colors apart for all 4 teams. It would help if we could pick our own team colors because none of the current modes work for me.

[west light]

Incredible matchmaking algorithm; I don't understand why I'm paired with people in the top 500 in every game, why competitive tournaments, why we're supposed to be the top team in the tournament when I'm not even platinum and there are four rubies in the same game... The game has a better algorithm in beta than it does now.

[plush fjord]

Top-Tier feedback: We should have the discord server moderators identify COD mentality players in this channel and ban their messages if they are too COD.

No COD kiddies = Profit.

[ember breach]

A f2p game does need to be so monetisation heavy to be successful, look at Warframe. The ultimate battle pass is a disgrace.

[tired fable]

Yo Embark

// Training mode

• add dmg range, %accuracy, spread infos,
• targetCPU presets, short capacity CD option
• possibility to choose different types of building and reset destructions
• cashout station & figurine mate

// QoL

why we can't have contestant number 69, explain us
Match history: add it
Items shop: add possibility to test shooting, reload animations...
group: make possibility to give lead, to join mate and be spectator when he is ingame
random FAVORITE skin : thx you to add random skin option but can we have a random favorite selection like apex plz ?
Skin preset : add gestures, spray, audio, card pose, weapon skin, etc... on skin preset plz
Loadout preset : let us cook loadout preset for real
Sledge lobby Pose: thx to change AKM pose but now buff sledge pose it need it
Sight: Let us choose weapon sight in training mode and before match
UX Loadout: put 2 items lines when choosing weap/gadget before match, scrolling is annoying
Team color: change pink or purple into green, it's hard to make difference during high fight
Coin revive: button/icon "I will coin" "dont revive" when wiped

// BALANCE

Pyrogrenade: 30 > 20sec CD
Dagger: remove charge cancel when climbing and make M2 charge work like throwing knife M2
M26: make the 5centered pellet deal 13dmg and 6 external's 10dmg /or/ reduce spread
Turret: give a Turret health bar on UI to monitor Turret HP
Explosive Mine: 15 > 12sec CD / or / 2stack 20sec CD
Reshaper: less CD when swapping props/grenades/rocket
Breach drill: useless rn buff it
Dual Blade: buff deflect accuracy & attacks
GooGun: M2 need a alternative shoot, charging goo line ? idk
Spear: split M2 full combo animation into 1 swing per M2
Sledgehammer: just revert nerf
KS23: destruction buff is very appreciated but it needs to be more efficient in fight

ps: cry to CL-40 is a skill issue, it's only annoying for lights

[graceful tapir]

Embark must be celebrating when they gut melee weapons, refuse to fix blatant melee bugs, then proceed to add wallhacks event to add salt to rub salt on the wound.

[fluid raptor]

let us adjust the chat censoring. it's genuinly so over the top right now. you can't say lmao, you can't say fking or damn, etc. it's beyond childish and should be adjustable to allow at least a bit more leniency

[fiery beacon]

worst event ever

[novel trench]

Please reintroduce the “disable chat filter” option you took away a while ago. I miss being able to read “LMAO”

[iron jetty]

IF MAC CAN RUN CYBERPUNK THEN IT CAN RUN THE FINALS PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[craggy otter]

daily reply.

[void badge]

pretty sure raytracing is always "on" as a setting, u just have to chose static to actually disable the raytracing tiself

[hearty bough]

Please make riot shield baton hitbox wider / slightly more forgiving when attacking - feels like I’m swinging a hotdog half the time with how short it is

[cobalt kernel]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[cinder charm]

Day 18 of asking embark to bring back bank it (and day 6 of asking embark to nerf cl-40)

[neat yoke]

embark i NEED better performance

[zinc gazelle]

They need to allow keyboard and mouse gameplay on console, its so much more fun to play on keyboard and mouse and some people actually quit the game because of this

[austere fox]

yeah it doesn’t make sense why there isn’t kbm on console since it’s a cross play game - also make the max sense on console the same as on pc kinda dumb there’s a maximum turn rate on console

[dense totem]

Buff pike

[naive gust]

add stats for nerds

[crisp parrot]

Who cares if some weapons aren't the exact same as others, variety is what makes the game interesting

[terse yarrow]

Emerald weapon skins should be on a rotation or give you a token to redeem one of your choosing when you hit Emerald 1 makes no sense for them to be exclusive to that season when anyone can attain Emerald playing long enough and its geared toward casual players. Making the Emerald skins hard stuck to a season just encourages overly competitives from ruby to stomp newbies and not everyone has the time to grind WT let alone Ranked.

[vital vault]

A Riot shield skin that makes it a sword and shield? Like a kite shield?

[finite kelp]

when in a party the game doesn't display the mode you are queued for correctly while searching unless you are the party leader

[west hornet]

You need kill cam like COD and replay system like Fortnite. This game is amazing!

[tribal spoke]

Please buff the dual blades by making them deal 63/63 DMG instead of the combos we have now

[crystal umbra]

Credit: Camxell17

I really think a live action cinematic THE FINALS clips would go so hard.

I can imagine one called "THE FINAL Countdown" - or something like that about a Evasive Dash Light carrying the box to deposit so their team can have a shot at overtime.

-Using dash to evade explosions
-Breaking through windows to evade persuing enemies
-The final scene being where the Light class uses a team mates jump pad and combines it with a dash to do the super jump combo that Embark (intelligently) put in the game, for the light class to toss the box into the cash out last second to start overtime.

As the box slides into the cash out you see the timer reset, as THE FINALS theme plays and the screen goes dark knowing that the team has one last shot to take home the win.

---

I romantisize the idea of getting some cinematic trailers.

[warped axle]

I find this game really boring to play now im not sure what exactly it is maybe its the weapon balancing maybe the matchmaking whatever it is i find it hard to have any fun really at all

[edgy glen]

Sure cause having to predict where an opponent will be and aiming an arching projectile with travel time requires zero skill.

Flamethrower also requires more skill than most other melee weapons since the flames have travel time requiring enemy movement prediction as well.

If you want this game to just be aim skill and nothing else, go play literally any other shooter on the market, the unique weapons are what makes the finals interesting.

[winter zealot]

who else has a lot of gamecrashes since the new update???'

[verbal cosmos]

I have

[stark girder]

this game is becoming cod with healing with the light class sweats in casual

light class mains will get bored of this game and go back to cod, and this game will die

[thorn kelp]

Or you can equip the glitch grenade??

[drifting topaz]

NERF CL40

[drifting isle]

let us shoot both barrels at once with double barrel, with this remove aiming

[jolly fulcrum]

Fix the match making, i a casual do not want to be put against sweaty emerald/diamond/ruby players every game.

[granite charm]

I think the finals should add animations for the melee button like make it a knife instead or kick or whatever instead of just the basic elbowing an opponent

[uncut hedge]

fix nazomi respawns, is garbage

[marsh oriole]

Double barrel needs to be nerfed no reason you should 2 shot a heavy

[thick cipher]

What is even the point of using mines if you can steal a cashout over one like here?

[rotund rapids]

Your ingame filter is cringe

[robust cradle]

Love the game! Just a couple of quality of life suggestions:

• Add ability to pass group leader in the lobby
• Make the in-game tab menu show you which knock-out round you are in
• Give us back the ability to turn off the language filter 🙏🏻

[primal lodge]

remove cl-40

[celest egret]

Game feedback channel is an echo chamber of bad takes

[modern idol]

Temporal Veil (Light Class Ability)
Deploys a time-distorting field that slows enemy movement and projectiles by 40% in a small radius for 6 seconds. Great for stalling pushes or escaping. 25s cooldown.

[golden badger]

+respect

[tidal parrot]

Fix the clipping issues that happen with 80% of your cosmetics that we pay for

[dreamy prairie]

are you on some joke thing on matchmaking? WHY am I, a noob, up against the worlds elite getting their sweaty ballsack rubbed all over my face?

[thick birch]

Cl40 needs more self inflicted damage like the rpg seeing way too many people using the weapon atm !!

[pseudo surge]

what does this even mean first time I have recieved this message I do not cheat and never have I do not see the .exe in services in task manager

[astral valve]

hihi

[unkempt cloak]

Please contact player support #📧┇contact-us

[fringe heron]

cl40 STUPID PLAYERS

[cerulean shale]

They won't do it because that's the class they cater to. Haven't you seen everything getting nerfed because of the light class. Medium went from 2 grenades to 1, from 2 explosive mines to 1.. cl40,AK, SCAR,1887 all trash thanks to the light class. How come the light sniper can kill like a shotgun, why is the Mp5 extremely stronger from 150M but not the AK or SCAR I believe people will stop playing because of the light class, new players aren't going to put up with that and they are going to leave the game

[placid acorn]

dear embark, i was a good human this year and i have only 3 wishes:

• let me change scopes in the practice range
• let me change contestant names (instead of light 1, light 2, etc.)
• dont listen to salty light players bandwagon in regards of cl40

[digital lotus]

W game

[crimson oak]

Can the v9s triangle twinkle skin get an improvement with covering the silencer as well

[arctic glade]

New low for embark servers (needed to bring the file size down to 8mb due to discord being a doodoo head)

[icy marsh]

• Improve hit reg
• Consult actual good players with comp background on how to make the spawn logic better. (devs can’t figure it out which is rlly embarrassing for them)

These two things make the game 100x better- stop focusing on weapons and skins for a few weeks and just make the game better?

[devout fjord]

No Hud option for console please 🙏 this game looks stunning it's the only game that truly feels next gen... having the option to turn off the Hud on console would be nice.. on PC with the Hud off It looked like a movie

[ember abyss]

When you loose in ranked or win in the end, show the ranks of the enemy teams.
Hiding them during the game is fine, but show them at the end, otherwise ranked is not true comparison.

Show the eliminated team the ranks from all the players and let the winning team show the ranks of the eliminated teams. <3

[surreal meadow]

it is on Static, there is no Off, which still a large performance cost. my arguement is why isnt there an "Off" choice for it when it causes a significant amnount of performance issues for players with low tier builds

@void badge then why does my crash message have raytracing in it

[void badge]

static literally means no raytracing, there is no static raytracing.

[molten jackal]

Nerf the f-ing spear. The reach on that thing is ridiculous. At the very least nerf the movement speed with it on a heavy.

[dusty igloo]

If tomorrow is another nothing patch, I will freak the fuck out

[regal ivy]

can we get the old cashout back and remove ta and world tour? having 2 ranked modes and no casual 1 round version is so weird

[tacit whale]

Add this as the next heavy weapon. Single shot, break action pistol that fires a 600 nitro cartridge. Slow reload speed but heavy hitting and accurate.

Also nerf the CL40

[austere fox]

brother world tour is the casual version 😭🙏

[sinful drift]

by far the most unbalanced game ever made. I only play for the customization.

[languid niche]

Wym this is peak the Finals gameplay

[gritty turtle]

buff the mgl pls / also the rpg is so weak it could be a main weapon now, it's essentially the same as a one shot cl40 without a tragectory arc

[smoky gust]

wt is a way bigger time commitment (that disallows leaving/punishes crashing)
you can't swap classes/specials
the few items you are able to swap to need to be in the limited reserve (and can only be accessed with limited coins or wipe)
while your teammates likely want to farm for emerald and want you to run meta

using non-meta weapons is far riskier due to the limited reserve and has a greater chance to fail since a lot of people want to sweat and run meta rather than also run niche picks
meanwhile, if you are trying to play into wt's semi-seriousness, getting a teammate that themselves wants to run a gimmik means you are likely hindered and waste time on the grind, while forcing you to stay with them the entire time

imo it would be best to separate these different kinds of players, so they dont get into each others gameplan
and since there is a desire for 5v5 cashout that avoids 3rd parties, might as well get 2 birds with one stone and make that the casual one

[sonic spoke]

Probably your keyboard or mouse software that has macro capabilities.

[quick coyote]

Lol happens to me, when ever I am about to flank someone from behind or running from a right, sometimes feels like it's a coding from COD, those Sus coding where everything it's preplanned

[ocean eagle]

You need a report option for griefing. I'm sick of that shit

[restive niche]

If I wake up to no sword buff tomorrow I will hook up one input method to two machines and terrorize ranked by piloting a 2 player dual wielding digital mech.

[frosty notch]

remove walls event im tired of saying it

[split oracle]

Hey I love the game, long time player. I would like to see a change with shotguns, where a quick melee does not cause such a long delay before your next shot. I find with the model or matter attempting a quick melee causes the gun to be pumped an additional time which brings an animation cancel that signficiantly slows your shooting speed down, it seems to be an unnecessary action and handicaps the potential for shotguns.

[untold venture]

holy shit please stop giving me nozomi citadel, i've played over 20 games of ranked just on that map over the past 3 days im getting fucking tired of it

[vivid seal]

no way bro

[woven briar]

Mouse and keyboard support back on consoles please and thank you

[pliant whale]

casual matchmaking should not put solos against full stack premades, the matchmaking in this game is bullshit. Alternatively you should actually try banning some of the cheaters I'm seeing every match

[proud skiff]

M60 major glitch:

During the final round of WT, m60 always has major input delay. I shoot 20 rounds ADS, let go to sprint, and my character walks ignoring input until I angerly spam it. M60 feels really delayed idk why.

[alpine summit]

I approve this message

[grim kiln]

please for the love of god fucking nerf the shitty ass crutch weapon that is the double barrel

[sterile wharf]

I feel like it would benefit the practice range if on the outside area of the practice range (like the outdoorsy looking thing) embark could add a terminal similar to the one at the place where you do challenges but in this terminal you can pick different environments (like the environments in kyoto and other maps), game events (like meteor shower, low gravity, etc.), and times of day or weather (like night, day, noon, rain, dust storm from vegas) and this could help people get even better practice in dealing with the multiple different environments of THE FINALS.

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the first swing damage in the combo from 65 to 70 making it 70, 80, 90 and increase the spin attack damage to 120

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either give it a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block all melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it's bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

these emojis will highlight the message so anyone at embark can see them 🥇:🤠🤯😵:⚽️:grinning:😆🙃😇🫠

[wicked ocean]

turn box battle dificulty down. yall actually ruined it.

[simple ether]

Between the unbalanced weapons, teamkills, cheaters, and these busted servers, this game is literally unplayable anymore. At least fix these broken servers ffs. 🤦‍♂️

[dull tiger]

Ranked plz fix

[sand kayak]

Give Light the ability to appear as a member of the enemy team.

[glad pike]

Add heavy sticker as emote pleeeeaaase

[urban sail]

A marvel rivals like replay system would be nice.

[rotund gust]

Give Bullseye Barry the black target dummy skin from the close quarters event the voice the practice dummies have please. I paid money for that skin and it's awesome. but it has the default mans voice which makes no sense. PLEASSSE EMBARK.

[narrow osprey]

FILL THE %^$&^ MATCHES WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE. FIX YOUR MATCH MAKING. YOUR SERVERS ARE BAD

[untold willow]

nerf cl40
buff AK
buff XP
buff lewis
buff healbeam
nerf H+ infuser
buff Cloak (reduce visibility to S5 level)

[twilit sand]

please add a proper avoid list. I do not want the same 0-10 bot on my team twice in a row

[hybrid hollow]

Console-only crossplay option please!

[next timber]

They need to make a mode with 6vs6 and limit it to two of each class. Im tired of spawning into a game of powershift and being the only non light on my team,or playing against a full 5 stack of lights. Get rid of invis, it's just a crutch for kids that aren't any good at the actual game itself and just want to get kills. Either nerf it to 3 seconds of invis with a 20 second cool down or make it so they can't just go in and out of invisibility a bunch of times during a fight

[sage sonnet]

match up the announcer countdown to how much time is actually left until the cashout is over. The announcer/crowd are usually like 2-3 seconds behind

[fleet quiver]

increase double barrel range by 5 meters so you can consistently deal more damage with it since it's such a bad weapon rn. also increase its damage by 200 so it's dealing more damage.

buff the cl40 by making it do 300 damage per grenade, make it's capacity infinite like throwing knives and make sure to completely remove self damage. cl40 is terrible and NOT overused at all currently and needs these buffs.

[crisp parrot]

Wait 1 day lol. Also buff cl

[sonic arrow]

Before the dynamic destruction is implemented (i.e. falling cranes damage everything in their way), I think Embark needs to invest in their server infrastructure because the servers already struggle with processing that stuff and cause major lag/instability. Adding the new destruction will just make it worse. Sometimes the servers just die on load in too and in the absence of destruction so something somewhere is going wrong

[hasty trout]

This strap is bugged, on the muscular heavy build

[ruby dew]

**BUFF THE SWORD!!! BUFF MELE!!!

#SaveMele!**

[foggy nymph]

Bro it's been months. I guarantee you the balance team has seen your shitty balance suggestions and ignored them.

[sacred siren]

Give us a way to invite people to groups without adding them pls

[regal hearth]

I agree
Also can we just delete the medium noob tube? I'm sick and tired of people using that thing. Just spam and win, blind fire and win, push them? ur dead, play space? ur dead

[quaint portal]

Melee is not viable currently and Embark is taking every step to make it even less viable with each balance patch. I thought this game was supposed to be different to other shooters, but it is slowly becoming a battlefield/COD clone with a few gimmick gadgets and abilities. Sad to see.
Embark, stop taking advice from sweaty, cringe streamers that only play with guns, and focus on the aspect that make you game unique and fun.
Stop nerfing playstyle and build variety for the sake of renegade COD players, THEY ARE NOT YOUR AUDIENCE.

shotgun oneshots light at close range
Embark: 😄
Any Melee weapon oneshots a light at close range
Embark: 😡

Gotta love this logic, balance team.

Anyways,

Hey, Embark, can we get more colors for the basic tank tops? Maybe Red or Blue? Ty! Love the game! (balance it properly, plz)

[lapis basin]

BUFF MELEE AND SWORD SPECIFICALLY PIECE OR SHIT EMBARK. 3 BASE HITS FOR A LIGHT WTF????

[waxen olive]

CAN WE PLEASE EMOTE IN THE LOBBY IM BEGGING YOU

[covert kite]

so explain to me why the little munchkins have the best weapons, best movement, best utility, best regen speed, and now best support and yall are still whining like the little guys you are when it comes to anything and everything you can. For some reason the only thing that comes to mind is embark feels bad for them? idk ive never seen this type of catering to a player base in any competitive game. If they ever do nerf the lights it will probably kill the game since they are so influential in the balancing teams eyes I guess. Why not just start removing shit and giving it to other classes like recon and sonar gadgets for mediums back in season 2. In my honest opinion, remove the class system in general and add certain weight parameters for weapons, specializations, and gadgets. This would allow for the use of everything at the expense of certain weight restraints between items. For example, you cannot use the mini gun if you weigh less than x amount but you can still use dome shield if you are over x amount.

[crystal umbra]

On Twitter the most videos I see if the finals is just people shooting guns.

How can we get more people who are not on board of the finals yet to see the heart pounding objective aspect of THE FINALS

People may see the shooting clips but not understand that THE FINALS is not just another shooter game.

ITS BOTH THAT AND ✨MORE✨

[drifting topaz]

NERF CL40

[versed gull]

Buff dagger buff sword

[hasty temple]

The mom that walk in your teammate room is too powerful to get nerf

[rustic tinsel]

Every underperforming weapon and melees needs buff.

[cyan cairn]

Nerf the cl40

[sinful finch]

teamate gets banned for cheeting in wt. we leave because we dont wanna play with two. get banned for 10 minutes for leaving a tournament. tf???

[steady jackal]

back at it again, waiting 30 minutes for a ranked game! embark please let us use practice range while waiting for ranked queue

[stray dagger]

That's some fine rage bait there, boy.

[vocal nimbus]

A sawed off shotgun can still manage decent damage at 20-30 meters at least IRL

[limber verge]

Embark remove evil from the world.

[digital mulch]

Everyone has bad games

[verbal moat]

I think the range on DB can be improved because the desync makes it terrible to play with

[leaden shell]

im gonna laugh when they nerf cl40 and the og players still shit on u with it after nerfs. embark dont listen to these people that dont know how to combat a niche weapon at its best. been using the CL40 since s1 and its far from busted...bad players just get mad cause they lose to a niche weapon and want it nerfed hoping u will do it so they can continue spamming invis for free skills.

[jagged vector]

Never ever ever put the wall hacks game mode back

[marsh crow]

they don't listen to this channel anyways

[midnight aurora]

stop making me join games that are over im not staying

[icy marsh]

Developers are idiots - y’all deserve to be fired

[twin helm]

this game is losing its spark its nothing but 3rd partys

[bronze atlas]

3rd party simulator

[frozen tree]

I think qc spawns should be adjusted, a lot of the time when I play it I feel like two teams spawn next to each other and get stuck in an endless fight while the third team sits on the cashout twiddling their thumbs doing nothing

[errant crater]

LOWER THE TTK BACK TO S1-S3 values

everyone plays like a complete rat now

they need to be punished for making the wrong play. having peashooter guns allows them to escape

[serene perch]

Only if you are bad at managing dashes

[random garden]

i hope h+ gets a cooldown nerf instead of a healing amount nerf (which would make it go from way to good to obsolete)

i literally always have it whenever i need it… the cooldown feels non-existent. why not keep it as good but make me only be able to use it once per team fight??

i also hope we get huge sweeping buffs tomorrow to off meta stuff especially melee as well as to plenty of guns that feel like air soft weapons at the moment like AK

[quasi apex]

Can we get the playlist of season 7 on Tidal please

[jagged cedar]

input based matchmaking so console players arent locked to requiring AA to perform

fix the game so I dont require dlss to have a playable framerate (this wasnt an issue 10 patches ago)
this game is the worst performing one in my library by a wide margin, it's also the only game where my fps feels like half of what it's displaying

mouse input is genuinely miserable, it's insane to me that there is a major in 6 months when the game is less responsive than indie slop games with unreadable code

[hazy skiff]

horse

[worldly pumice]

horse

[sturdy garnet]

feels bad

[reef lake]

can we please get kill cams im tired of dying mysteriously

[keen karma]

• Nerf CL40, literally no skill weapon
• Gold Ranked matches still getting blatant aimbotters i.e., dude went 33-1 "boldblade"
• Ranked System is way too punishing for Solo Q. Please do not matchmake soloQ with 3 stacks, it's a horrible soloq experience

[wide hazel]

fix the game thats it

[cloud furnace]

One humble request: Higher quality/higher frequency Double Barrel skins to buy. Please take my money

[tawdry tree]

We really need to be able to refuse a defib, some players simply don't understand how it works and it's punishing the player that gets revived

[feral shard]

Day 35 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)

It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes

It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex

Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it

(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)

[wooden atlas]

Either this or make defib cast from health points (you spend HP to res another person)

[rotund gust]

In one update you mentioned you are thinking about adding AI enemies for new players. Here's some feedback for you. Don't do it.
AI being added to PvP kills the game. If you want noobs to have an entry level experience then lock quickplay for level 25s or under and the rest is as it is now. Yes this would let cringe smurfs feast but by god don't add AI. Every time devs add AI for noobs they always somehow end up being a thing in regular matchmaking for people with 1000+ hours. Playing against AI in PvP is the most brainrot inducing non stimulating trash ever. I only say this rant cus I love this game and if I ever felt myself playing against non real players I'd hard uninstall that day and the fact this was mentioned in any capacity worries me.
Don't do it Embark.

[keen tartan]

If you (embark) want me to invest into outfits and cosmetics I have to be able to see the comfortable future of this game. The servers are killing the game and every complete match is a complete turd

[cobalt parcel]

Also 5v5 cashout(like) Mode would be mutch appreciated! So often i can’t play with all my friends who all love cash out ❤️❤️🍀🍀🍀🙏🏼🍀🍀🍀❤️❤️❤️

[rustic tinsel]

stop nerf

revert all melee nerfs

[signal basin]

Today is the day. Embark end thus erea of CL40 today. It's been since the S6. This must end today

[tired crater]

Above all I really hope something is done about the servers today. The experience is actually horrible since the start of Season 7 and it's progressively getting worse.

[covert oxide]

When the feedback screen pops up after every so many matches, have an option for server being too laggy to be fun

[tiny bear]

Guys I am experiencing server glitch daily I am not able to play the game my character stuck anywhere I am able to fire and kill but don't able to move what should I do

[split oracle]

someone on my team in WT is intentionally throwing and avoiding wiping and reviving. What do I do about this? I would appreciate the ability to report people for griefing in this game. near the end we were stealing a cash box and he blew up the objective below us to delay our steal and stop it. He ended the second round with zero combat score because he refused to do anything.

[rough fossil]

that shit is so petty fr

[fallen vapor]

yes please, OASIS too 🙏

[fleet quiver]

let's buff cl40 even more and nerf melee so cl40 can win fights against melee easier

[tame chasm]

FIX THE DAMN WINCH EMBARK THE GAME FEELS LIKE GARBAGE SINCE U UPDATED WEAPONS NOT TO SHOOT IN SITUATIONS THEY SHOULDN'T IN S6 i can hear my shotgun go full auto but never get a hit to register after getting winched the servers have become sooooo ass

[fallen copper]

The rocket launcher has some pretty severe health punishments for pointblanking the weapon for a cheesey kill. Would like to see the same punishments for the CL40. Consistently losing every fight to a jumping CL40 player within 3ms

Go to the practice range to test out and jumping while shooting the ground below you reduces damage taken....seems like the explosion burst is too small. Sure the player firing the CL40 takes increased self damage, but that only seems to play a role if fired directly downwards.

Almost all engagements are 2-5 meters and 3 point blank shots kills an enemy medium and maybe the CL40 player takes 100 damage? Plus all the freedom to jump around?

Tons of people are running this, two on a team is devastating.

Tell a stranger that exploding grenades at your feet beats out a melee weapon and they will tell you that doesnt make sense... yet here we are, way past the logic test and living that in game.

[raw bobcat]

Dont nerf the CL-40. Here's why.

• There is a big counter against CL-40 and that is APS-TURRET.
• Opponents can get really close to the CL-40 User and then the CL-40 user is forced to also take self damage.
• The only buff CL-40 had was in Season6, but it was only getting used in this season.

[tiny arch]

Make it possible to see friends contestants card

[twin helm]

nerf the absolute hell out of the size for the riot shield this is so unfair

[cobalt kernel]

Player numbers keep falling by 500 players a day, because you refuse to act and nerf the CL40 projectile speed and travel distance. If you don't do it today, by next week we will top out at 12k players, and we are only 3 weeks into the season...

The problem is not damage or how it's applied , it's the ridiculous projectile speed that you overtuned too the max it's just way to good in mid range, find a middle ground

[dusty spire]

Nerf the noob tube

[half quarry]

Instead of begging the devs for a cl40 nerf, they should just make the cl harder to use, with lesser splash damage and better damage when direct hitting, that would be much more fair
Also just because a weapon you don't like do well means the game is unbalanced, I can't understand why all the people that are crying over the cl are either fcar players or xp players, they are playing meta weapons and want to ruin the game of every players that are not playing the same weapons

[hasty maple]

Nerfffff cl40

[tribal depot]

please dont overdo the monetization of the game. with the new shop, popups, videos in your face and 2 types of battlepass ... i fear that it turns into a mobile game style or cod/bf/cs. keep it clean in for example the shop and dont shove it in peoples face. if we want to support the game we will find a way to spend money 😉

[hallow birch]

Bro is on crack

[indigo timber]

bring bank it back

[slender girder]

I am once again asking for you to start giving us patch notes/update info before the actual update, instead of after it's supposed to be live.

@sterile canopy Is even odder we get no info until a while after the updates are live.

[sterile canopy]

That’s an odd opinion to me. All it would change is that you’d get a flood of people weekly asking if the update is live yet or not for a few hours.

[sudden lake]

Let us trade VRs for show tokens. I will not stop asking for this as long as it's not implemented. 🔥

[worldly pumice]

youd get more people asking where the patch notes are while the patch is live. also they could just slap on a release date+time on the patch notes to alleviate that 'issue'

[potent solar]

not a fan of doubling the equip time on the sr84, already bottom of the barrel. if anything scope in needs to be faster. ... and you buffed 93r.. wtf guys

actually not a fan of increasing equip time on anything. should be reduced for all. the game already feels clunky and due to the design input responsiveness is already affected by server latency. this is a big step in the wrong direction imo. the game is fast paced and button presses are often ignored. really seems like a misunderstanding of the soul of the game

gonna try tomorrow, but the timing of a cl40 event seems bad. I personally am sick of it due to the past week

[inland bramble]

still not bringing the sword damage back while lights still get deleted by everything. why even have melee weapons in the game anymore. uninstall incoming

[round goblet]

Sh1900 still dominating CqC burst Dmg for Lights, whilst Sword/Dagger sometimes Sledge getting the short hand of the stick getting annihilated just getting in their range, peak balance Embark holy..

That poor dagger player suffers 800 ms with all drawbacks spotting them instantly brings their value to 0 or the Sword that Lunge+Qm+5 dmg suffering possible carpal tunnels training that muscle memory doing tiring combos whilst some low skill player rocking Sh1900 can do the same with just an average aim and no training just point close range and shoot + if you are on controller AA its impossible to miss point blank shotgun shots.

[agile jacinth]

thoughts on the new kernel level anticheat mentioned at the end of the patch notes?

[pastel sage]

The situation has a problem and there's specific solutions to it. Sadly, there's not much lee-way there.
For the health of the game, i do think it's worthwhile, but... this might cause people to leave. The message at the end of the patch notes also felt very "suck it up", which is fair, but if it were to be worded better, it could've helped a bit.

[pseudo leaf]

I am okey with it because it really makes cheating hard and makes detection really easy. But probably not every one wants a company to have access their pc in kernel level. I real want to know more peoples opinion.
@mossy herald around high plat, diamond/ruby ranks you get a lot of cheaters for boosting others. At the end of seasons you start to get almost every game and banning them after some games doesn't do much. Because they will make a new account and get back to boosting. You can make an account ranked ready in about 7 to 8 hours if you are not even trying hard and not using cheats. I am pretty sure there are ways to make it way faster that i don't know.
I play in eu i don't know if same happens in NA or other regions. But i know there were cheaters play every region to find games faster.

[mossy herald]

Not a fan of the kernel level anti cheat comments personally. Maybe others have had a different experience but I feel The Finals already has substantially LESS cheaters than a massive amount of games out there. I think the right way to go about this is community outreach and a robust system to report and take down hackers in-match to disincentivize it. The cheat makers can’t profit if the cheaters don’t succeed. I don’t like this philosophy personally. Love you still though embark…

Put consequences in place for reports provably made in poor-faith or without evidence (even if it just means their reports won’t be considered in the future or they lose access to the feature) and act quickly on reports from players with a better reputation. Let the community self moderate 💚 that sounds like a better path to me at least…

For the uninitiated the problem with kernel level anti-cheat isn't necessarily that we don't trust embark or that they have the capacity to misuse it (although that is ALWAYS a concern worth mentioning) The bigger issue is that any weakness in their software (the anti-cheat, the game in ways that interact with the anti-cheat, etc) becomes a weakness in our personal computer. In the past with vanguard (Valorant/Riot's anti-cheat) or easy (epic's most used anticheat) which are both kernel level software's, exploits or weaknesses have been found in those anti-cheats that become security concerns for any pc installing them. Basically if a hacker can find a weakness in the anti-cheat, they can use it to gain total control of your pc and access sensitive data.

I trust embark not to do wrong with it, but you have to trust them to have better cyber-security than EVERY predecessor to have ever used or made kernel level anti-cheat and that's just an unrealistic bar to set... I'd be surprised if they even made a proprietary anti-cheat instead of using an existing one...

[fleet bolt]

Fix gyro please!

[restive cedar]

Dear Embark.

I'm a MGL32 main (yes i exist)
Do you guys actually hate this weapon? It might be cursed i'm pretty sure. It actualy feels like it, the last change you gave the MGL was in 4.0.0. (Decreased reload time from 3.1s to 2.8s)
I love the weapon as it is but it needs more environmental damage. 8 grenades to destroy 1 wall is absurde imo.

[gentle spear]

Changes in season 9 confirmed

[hoary perch]

Where is sword buff? Embark said they will nudge damage back when they patch exploits and nothing happend for whole seasaon.

[grave bane]

In my opinion, Embark has never given us a reason to distrust kernel level anti cheat; I'm a firm believer that people who don't like kernel level a time cheat are people who either cheat or are thinking of cheating. But then again, I play console...

[light zenith]

Event is absolute peak

[drifting topaz]

Loser

[silk bramble]

Please add a Option to turn off this Filter in the New Mode, i cannot play it since my brain is just fucked up with it and i need to fcking Vomit when i look at this bs

[jade birch]

the pixel filter makes my eyes hurt

[echo panther]

True why would i play any melee as light if i can just play Sh1900

[foggy nymph]

You don't have to be a bad actor to not want 3rd parties having access to the root level of your personal computer. Personally I don't want any 3rd party software having kernal level privileges, any less a video game I just want to play for fun. It's a shame multi-player games feel the need to intrude on the privacy and security of their fair players just to try and combat bad actors.

Plus it straight up doesn't work with Linux PCs or by extension Steam Decks. So I'm probably not playing anymore.

(Not that I've wanted to play much since they nerfed sledge into the ground anyway!)

[rapid pike]

Good they do something about cheaters, unfortunately they will probably nuke Steam Proton with it so I cant play anymore.

[cloud jungle]

actually almost puked from the pixel filter, let us remove it

[cedar cave]

Small QoL change: Contestants shout out whenever 2 teams are attacking them

[digital ember]

There is a bug with gas being unaffected by flames. Has happened a couple of times already

[wraith orchid]

why tf would you nerf sniper even more🤦🏻

[lunar timber]

Not a major issue but why nerf amount of cash gain from these events, I remember the Christmas event would give out 30k to win and losers would still gain cash, now it’s either u lose and get nothing or win and get 10k ( again not a major issue before u guys jump me)
Even TDM why not make it 1k per kill and winner gets the amount of money end of the game, not plain 0

[twilit junco]

give us the special events as a daily rotation pls!!

[bold berry]

Admitting that the Cl40 is the counter to cluster healing is like admitting failure to the balance of the game… im puzzled with this lack of vision/ vision… stop looking at data and start using your brains

[chilly atlas]

The fact that world tour has only had one event all season is total garbage. There should be a new event every week or they should run disruptive events during the match more frequently. This is lack of content and boring

[tepid jacinth]

Embark. Please for the love of God don't drop Linux support with the anti cheat update.

The Finals is the only game I've genuinely been able to play and enjoy continually (with brakes here there of course) since closed beta 2.

I'm at the point now to where if a game doesn't work on Linux I just won't play it. I DESPERATELY don't want to lose The Finals, it's the only game I keep coming back to anymore and I love it.

[surreal bloom]

can somebody help me after update the game says that i have to close interception before starting the game

[pliant lichen]

Mfw you only read the CL-40 part of the patchnotes and didn't look at the adjustments they made (nerfs) to the two added healing gadgets lmao. NPC behaviour.

In other matters. Well done Embark. My review now sits at positive because the H+ and CL nerf NEEDED to happen. Good changes, but I am still wondering why the KS-23 needed to be nerfed. Seemed very out of place honestly.

[versed dagger]

goo mines

[elfin dock]

how about delete this weapon?

[odd cedar]

🤡

[twin trout]

Could you please offer some quality of life updates for the barricades? I've been using them non stop since I started playing heavy in season 1 and they are very inconsistent and unreliable for a few reasons: They cannot be placed on rubble, or debris, which is sometimes caused by destruction and cannot be removed. They also cannot be placed over a line of tether, whether the person placing is tethered or not. They are very finicky with being close to walls, doorways, the cashout, etc, and it would be nice if they had some sort of barrier that enabled them to touch walls in build mode. Lastly, the thing that has gotten me killed in game more than almost any other barricade issue, is that if someone is too close to me, I cannot place the barricade. It would be so appreciated if I could make someone keep their distance by placing my barricade when someone is close to me, like a melee or dash user. It almost makes me want to use goo, but I love the permanence of barricade and I would love if they were given just a little love. Thank you guys v much for making my fav game!

[lean oracle]

Can we please get a HUD padding option or a HUD to center option for ultrawide resolutions?

[round isle]

I think the overlying issue with weapon balance is that you can’t easily switch to a counter weapon. The current implementation is too slow and clunky. There should be a selectable log of all chosen kits with favorites at the top of the log. I think 5-10 in the log would work. That or loadout stations near cashboxes. That would give snipers more to do and a secondary POI to defer 6v3 action. Speaking on quick cash.

[soft rain]

maybe dont put silvers against a team with 3 top 500

[short fern]

More damn loadout slots

[deep vessel]

same, idek what it is, just tried to start this morning and keep getting it even after pc restart, thought it may be ghub for logitech software but that wasnt it so idk

[fickle linden]

-ask support please! They may be able to help troubleshoot

[spiral light]

<:thefinals:1108025386081714196> PLAYER SUPPORT

Reach our Support Team: Link

Please note you need to log in with your EmbarkID.

[mellow steeple]

NEW MODE DOPE

[static solstice]

turn off the filter on the new gamemode its horrible

[safe ravine]

hey embark! really nice patch u got us there! really sweet!
also that new cutscene when u win a game/a tournament is soo cool!! it really feels nice, nice little touch

keep cooking ❤️

EDIT: can't post again so ill ask here: PLEASE CONSIDER MEDIEVAL SEASON!! Can't stress it enough how could it would be to have a castle map such as the Gondor in LOTR, breaching in the doors with a ram or something would be epic, with sword and shields skins. Armors skins, rangers skins, catapults on the walls OMG EMBARK DO IT
with a LTE melee only, with certain locked cosmetic (u can still use what cosmetic u want, but some are locked for the events to be able to have some kind of RP at the release of the new map)

Or also an infected gamemode, where infected players play dash swords, and non infected maybe play the bow

[keen lily]

you overdid it with the filter in new mode, it could stay there but tuned down a little, you can't really see what you're aiming at and it's hard to look at
edit: ah right, it probably looks good on console if you're sitting away from your tv

[quick coyote]

New mode sucks
So did the last

[shrewd tundra]

With this new anticheat that embark is using in the future for the finals I hope you have considered the Linux players that have been playing the game while valves developers maintain it for Linux users, if you could allow us through like what splitgate 2 did and what you did way back with the EAC anticheat that would be awesome as me and my friend + the Linux forum on here enjoy playing it under Linux with no problems

[wide mist]

can we get some sort of clarification over linux/steam deck support with the upcoming kernel level anticheat?
the linux finals community in the linux-help-center is going bananas right now over this.. alot of us are worried

[cerulean flower]

Please give us favorites for shuffle + shuffle for stickers and talismans etc

[outer jetty]

Best New Mode ever!! (Rip Console players tho)

• For those who say the gamemode is bad. Because there is no MMR.
  Blast off!!!!

[wispy root]

i hope linux/steamdeck support isn't dropped with the new anticheat, i don't want to be forced to drop the finals like how i was forced to drop bf2042 when ea added their own anticheat

[keen tartan]

Exactly what I was thinking. Might have to find a new game. Not selling my data to Microsoft.

Please don't get rid of Linux support 🙏

[brazen compass]

Blast Off is absolute trash.

[tough arrow]

The cl40 nerfs were stupid. Buff something else to compromise. Either dmg, reload speed, or mag size.

[broken crest]

Dear embark team, is the game feedback channel a joke or why you don't do the things the community says? we just feel like we've been ripped off. For 20 years, people have been writing about buffing mele weapons like swords, but what EXACTLY are you doing? NOT BUFFING SWORDS?

[hazy skiff]

Horse

[dreamy prairie]

Hey Embark, any comments on your god tier matchmaking? 7 games in a row lost due to facing world elite as a casual player!

[sleek marsh]

Big W patch

[versed gull]

"These adjustments are separate from the broader melee quality-of-life improvements we’re planning for the future."

where is the sword buff you promised months ago? 🥲

[sterile patrol]

Blast off... GL sucks, it's no fun and I had enough of this weapon, since S7 launch every game had someone spamming this weapon.. no one likes GL, it's oppressive no skill weapon!

[livid glen]

hello, dumbass question but i just wanted to ask about something i found while looking at the wavereaver set on steam, if you scroll down you'll see something about ai generated content saying that ai was used to make scotty and june's voices, is that true?

[honest elk]

add the number 00 for the contestant

[pure obsidian]

Nerf winch.
Buff every melee weapon.
Give us the ability to be able to use all items in the reserve but with a cool down, like 2 minutes.

[red pollen]

Can we please get that pixelated effect on from the Blast off event using the glasses you unlock in stage 2 of contracts, like how the pyro goggles from tf2 make everything all happy?

[serene flicker]

First game since the new update and it was full of cl-40, what a pleasure when it was supposed to be nerfed…

[nocturne osprey]

in the blast off gamemode for next week have a contract to kill people with quick melee and see the chaos that ensues it would be so funyyyyyyyyyyyy

[small thorn]

I love DOOM, and it upsets me that we didn't get animations for the double barrel. I would happily pay for it

[glad ore]

In the coming months, we will also begin an incremental rollout of a new kernel-based anti-cheat solution
Whelp... in the coming months, I'll be putting down this game forever. Kernel mode anti-cheat is a meme in the losing game that is client-side anti-cheat. Look at the games that have it: they still have cheaters, and that's in large part because we aren't in the 1900s anymore. These aren't just your typical power users rolling up with a memory scanner and cheating on the fly. As you noted in your own post, it's an industry these days:
Cheat makers operate in a low-risk, high-reward world. They profit by selling cheats...
Which means they'll just make the new thing that bypasses this and sell it to their existing customers all the same. All you're doing is making things worse for the legit players -- especially for those of us playing on Steam Decks or other Linux systems; or those who have restrictions on what is permitted on Windows systems (e.g. remote employees in it/eng).
Also, it's funny that y'all are doing this after kernel mode AC has been soundly defeated (see: Valorant), and other options like external passthrough devices + computer vision-based hardware cheats are on the rise. Your kernel mode AC is already defeated and you're making the experience for legit users worse. 👍

[spark shard]

Unfortunately, IMHO this isn't possible, and I believe it's due to the low number of players still playing: this makes the matchmaking completely unfair in order to avoid long wait times and have a decent match.

I've been talking about this problem since season 2, and this is the only conclusion I've reached. I haven't seen any improvement in that regard, or any news talking about it, even though the problem is more than evident from the players' perspective and considering the amount of data Embark must handle.

The problem will only get worse as fewer people play.

[inland bay]

Kernel anti-cheat might be the nail in the coffin for me, considering I won't be keeping Windows much longer. Thanks for making the decision of dropping this game really easy, since I won't be able to play it anyway.

[remote blade]

that cl 40 nerf seems like a W its more punishing to the guys would shot at their feet without trashing the weapon as a light it was my main problem the fact they could just shot at their feet and shrug of the explosions

[untold hazel]

FIX THE SHIT SERVERS

[buoyant lichen]

very cool ideia on the new event, but, can we plese remove the visual filter? I can't play more than one game before get sick and with a headache

[cold drum]

Kernel level anticheat a wolf in sheeps clothin.

Listen it can already be bypassed, I don't know what youre cooking but from the patch notes you want some of our sweet data for your machine learning and data from our kernels. You won't be fighting anything but your players. Youll get our data and we'll receive lower performance and privacy invasion - thats the worst deal in history of deals. Don't forget that you'll lose linux players as well, Ill be migrating to Linux soon so youve made the decision for me I guess.

The game is freaking cool, one of the best online shooters I played in years, but the price is too damn high.

[elder iron]

I think an interesting change for the shop could be a “Lights Out” toggle so that you can see stuff light up. Plus you can see how it’d match with things such as charms and whatnot in different combinations.

[tranquil galleon]

support links are broken, I can't make a ticket, I'm on firefox and the links appear to be broken but other buttons work fine. Js is enabled and everything. I'm editing this message since theres a four hour slow limit 😭 Can you copy the direct link or something if it works fine on your end? It's literally the only button that doesn't work for me

[fickle linden]

What does the issue look like? I can access them fine

[outer pollen]

Is so glad yall add the doom shot gun now I just the animation and I’m golden 🫡

[tall dew]

So, with the threat of Kernel Level Anti-Cheat mentioned in the latest Patch Notes, as a Linux only gamer i should probably stop getting invested in The Finals, right? Been really enjoying my time so far but fear that it will come to a halt in summer..

And at the Freelance Mexican - i'm not scared because i don't cheat. I just hate paying for Battlepasses and cosmetics only to be barred because i don't use the Maleware called Windows.

[night bough]

Matchmaking is still terrible as usual. I just played a power shift match with people not over Plat against 2 Rubies (with S4 S5 S6 badges) and at least 1 Diamond. You guys are really good with the frustrations aren't ya

[burnt notch]

If ur using any cheats then yes you should be scared

@night bough matchmaking is like that mostly cuz not a ton of people play the game at the same time, so it’s less likely that you’ll pair with less experienced players. This is worsened if you have cross play off

[limpid turret]

why Increased the weapon equip time to 0,3 on most weapon? 😭

[lapis basin]

BUFF SWORD

NERF THROWING KNIVES WITH SOME SORT OF COOLDOWN OR “RELOAD” ANIMATION. THE SPAM IS CRAZY.

[rare mauve]

I welcome the Kernal anti-cheat with open arms. I'd be happy for a solution like Valorant has. (Compare the amount of cheaters in Valorant to CSGO, it straight up works.) I've personally had zero issues with vanguard. I know that some users have had issues but that is a very tiny percentage, and has been resolved over time. It doesn't prevent everything, but it significantly cuts down on cheaters.

Linux users really shouldn't be surprised, Linux is notorious for having issues with gaming. Linux has made a lot of progress for gaming improvement, but it's not meant for gaming, and this is out of choice. If you want freedom on your OS, it also comes at a cost, the cost being compatibility for gaming but getting more customization options.

Furthermore, why should Linux be able to circumvent anti-cheat? If they want to participate their platform should have a foundation solution for anti-cheat as well. Otherwise all the cheaters will just use Linux

[slender pine]

I thought they said they were gonna balance weapons every 3 weeks now. They touched like 4 guns in the past 3 months. So disappointing when there are so many bad weapons out there

[lyric spade]

i think i got banned bc of linux

[inland seal]

please add a sheath or something for sword emotes, maybe even just give one to sword and dual blade users for when they are holding utility :D

[dreamy marlin]

The infuser nerf wasn't nearly enough, it still has the hability to heal 300hp in little more than a second, it isn't even an specialization and it doesn't just out perform the healing beam that is actually an specialization, it makes the damage you deal completely useless if the other team has a light that knows what is doing.
The infuser should at the most heal 150 health in a second, that's still a lot and it will allow you to save a teammate from death and keep fighting.

[rare iris]

This is not the fault of Linux or its users, but of lazy anti-cheat developers. Linux gives more possibilities to detect and prevent acts of cheating.

EAC and BattleEye could have made kernel modules for Linux a long time ago, but instead they made a cheap simplified version of their Windows solutions just to get rid of Valve's pressure

Fuck kernel-level anti-cheats on any OS btw. Kernel should not be accessible to anyone except OS developers. And obviously, fuck Microsoft for sabotaging Linux/SteamOS gaming experience by paying to install their malware on consumers PCs.

[sterile wharf]

I feel like it would benefit the practice range if on the outside area of the practice range (like the outdoorsy looking thing) embark could add a terminal similar to the one at the place where you do challenges but in this terminal you can pick different environments (like the environments in kyoto and other maps), game events (like meteor shower, low gravity, etc.), and times of day or weather (like night, day, noon, rain, dust storm from vegas) and this could help people get even better practice in dealing with the multiple different environments of THE FINALS.

[plush fjord]

We need cooler looking explosions.

Theyre already awesome, but right now the explosions seem to have a bit more smoke and dust and not the orange-red tint you'd expect from an explosion.

And then whenever you'd get an explosion, you'd think its light would reflect a bit off of windows and your screen.

The picture above shows the kind of thing I'm talking about. Explosions will look way better if this kinda upgrad is implemented.

Thanks Embark.

[wanton robin]

thanks for fixing the server issues—I haven’t seen any of the lag I was having a few weeks ago. the one thing I desperately want from the game is for the arena announcer—the “they’re not aiming they’re selecting!” guy—to obey the volume slider that works on the regular announcers. I know it’s meant to contribute to the game-show vibe but something about the way those lines are written and delivered means that every time he speaks, which is constantly, it makes me want to Alt-F4.

[thick sand]

nice gamemode full of hackers they don't miss a shot , good idea sadly you don't have anticheat. PS: i'm still winning the game because i'm a pro shooter player for 10+ years and even if kids hack they still 50 iq dumb but it's annoying

[vernal scaffold]

Typa guy that anyone is better then you then they are hacking 🤣🤣

[tribal depot]

please award ranked players with world tour points! otherwise you split the community and statues should look like the player whos dead 🙂

[unreal fossil]

I wish we did not need Kernel-level anti-cheats, but the reality is that all multiplayer games are filled with cheaters. It's unfair to honest players who've never cheated once in their entire gaming 'career' to have no other option but to accept invasive countermeasures, but what else can developers do, really ?

Regarding the privacy side of things, I find ironic to dwell on it in 2025; we live in a hyper-connected world where everyone uses online services to do literally anything, from working to getting cat food delivered at the door. The only way to achieve true privacy is to live completely off the grid, anything else is pretty delusional if you ask me.

[blissful thorn]

Embark I beg of you consider keeping the new LTM's rendering pipeline as a toggleable ("resolution sharpness?") option in video settings. My base 3060 (yeah ik its trash-) is getting significantly smoother performance (5.6ms frame-time, 3.4ms GPU time compared to the usual 8.5ms / 5.6ms). It's noticeably more efficient than DLSS, upscaling, or just keeping low but blurry render resolutions from what I can tell. (before I get jumped I know the LTM has reduced map detail/less physics objects/people meaning less work for the hardware) but it even runs smoother than the practice range somehow-
Ngl I personally prefer a sharper, but lower pixel count over the blurrier, partially generated output from DLSS or just straight having low render res settings.

[dusty igloo]

Remove the quick play grind, I do not want to play quick play, all it does is bring sweats to quick play.

[unreal epoch]

I'm just disappointed with this update, mostly with Blast Off. I have nothing wrong with the concept of it, but why did you feel the need to change the damage values in the gamemode? APS feels worthless, RPG can instant kill, and I this makes me hate CL even more. Also, why does Blast Off have to play with the pixelated screen? It's just horrible to look at, and feels pointless to have.

[night jewel]

I don't know if it has been already said, but the barricade needs to be updated.
A mini stone in an empty hall won't let me place it because a mini edge is blocked.
Let the segment not appear, but please let me place the barricade.

[marble hearth]

Making us have to pick up the healing emitter like a guardian Turret was a terrible idea. How am I supposed to remember if I picked it up or not if im in the heat of battle and are in need of it.

[golden badger]

same hope they do so

[cyan cairn]

The nerf to the cl40 brought a tear of happiness to my eyes thank you embark

@Jaden oh no ofc I COMPLETELY agree. If anything I play the game for fun and only really think about things they should add/nerf bc I don’t know about guns enough to fully suggest buffs.
Personally, I think (and maybe others think too) the cl40 was just fucking ridiculous to go up against ESPECIALLY if you’re in world tour. There is no reason my team & I should be going against an entire team of cl40s that require absolutely no skill & actual aim.

[random garden]

remove visual recoil on guns where bullets dont shoot true to sight when strafing while ads

[warped elk]

remove speed nerf for charged dagger attack, slightly nerf primary attack

[crisp parrot]

U should have been asking for buffs to other things too, if u want people to stop using cl that is the real way

[glad bronze]

About the kernel AC: that probably means the game will not be playable on linux anymore?

[sleek forge]

Good job on listening to the community. Recent balances to sword, sledge, cl40 and the heal gadgets shows that you guys see the vision. Keep up the good work dev team

[ionic monolith]

Sword and sledge nerf were so unnecessary.

[zealous pulsar]

i don't really like the new win animation, it doesnt show the map like it used to

[pure arrow]

The new destruction physics are absolutely incredible! Great job Embark

[zinc oasis]

To everyone happy about the cl40 changes, it literally changed nothing 😂

[radiant reef]

got any salt to sell me? need to cook pasta

[limber verge]

Dude so bitter he’s a biochemical hazard 😭

[frozen tree]

Day 11: Good patch notes, but we still got a long way to go!

Big wishlist:
Revert sword nerf (PLEASE give it 140 lunge damage, it needs it)
Revert dagger nerf (let it backstab turrets again, and increase the angle or make the charge faster)
Revert sledge nerf (at least the left click part), the range buff was nice but not what it needed
Also with the sledge buff, nerf winch! It’s the problem!
Give riot shield’s baton a wider hitbox, as right now it’s really janky to try and hit lights
Buff dual blades damage
CL-40 nerf seems good! I’ll have to see it in game to get a good feel for it
Make breach drill faster and a maybe a bigger explosion
Bring back grenade grappling, and make it easier or reduce grapple cooldown
Make m11 a close range option, XP a mid range one, and ARN a longer range one. Same thing with AKM, FCAR, and famas, respectively
You listened to both my healing emitter and h+ ideas, thanks!
Fix performance and freezing
Let us unlock the ultimate battlepass rewards as the $20 tier, and the 20 extra levels be part of the $30
There may be more, but this is what I think for now, and I’m open to suggestions and (constructive) criticism

[west glacier]

great LTMs as always, it arrived today so can we pls make it 5v5??? it needs it i can't find them most of the time

[fading palm]

Somewhy twitch drops are shuffled
for getting matter skin in drops you get cerberus
and for cerberus you get matter skin

[supple mortar]

Almost a whole season and no sword revert/buff. Are we serious rn? Lock tf in.
(Other changes are good though)

[smoky gust]

i love the pixelated skins, they remind me of when i was playing pixelgun in my childhood
i hope we get more skins like them

(also, the LTM is incredible)

[thorny apex]

Sledge got a buff before sword 😭 it's been 3 months please let me be viable.

[sage sonnet]

I haven't played much this season but red canisters dont really launch anymore? Just feels wrong

[wicked ocean]

Blanket Buff HS multipliers to create "skill counters" which are ALWAYS better than "build counters".

[granite charm]

Anyone lost those red lines on your crosshairs when you get a confirmed kill? And how do you get it back

[placid cliff]

great set of patches. loving the new blast off ltm. would love to see some animations like the new cl40 set for all the new low poly weapons, big missed opportunity to put them on the sawed off

[vagrant lake]

Thank you for making the game more playable again

[magic stratus]

Healing emitter nerf was unjustified. Micro managing the gadget like turret is such an unfun concept. The emitter was NEVER a problem against even average teams. You should have buffed data reshaper to be a proper viable counter. the nerfing is getting so out of hand

[mint surge]

I think you should include the new equip and unequip time in the equipment UI.

[charred delta]

true story

[brisk tangle]

The event doesn't give Show Tokens, come on Embark.

[split mason]

Somehow the seasons are getting worse. Bows are broken, dash is broken, smh.

[polar swan]

blast off LTM is PEAK, thank you embark

[sonic arrow]

Huge potential this patch, however:

"Increased equip time of (weapon) by XXX

Increased unequip time of (weapon) by XXX"

And:

"Decreased equip time of (weapon) by XXX

Decreased unequip time of (weapon) by XXX"

I get what you guys were trying to do here but the only weapon that actually got a significant change was cl40, and now we have to wait another three weeks just for ONE WEAPON to get a significant change. These patches are leaving the game dry as hell balance wise. we're gonna need more changes a patch if this game is actually going to last

[warm egret]

let us change reticles colors bruh red is so ass

[misty rock]

idk who to reply to so i just picked yours.

The problem as I see it is that kernel level anti-cheat will do absolutely nothing to combat players using hardware to cheat, like cronus/xim to give them no recoil and stuff.

I'm happy they're doing something about cheating, and maybe they have internal data showing hacks that can be caught with kernel anticheat are currently the most egregious or most prevalent in game right now so I won't complain about how they've triaged their work, but I'm hoping that this is a first step and they'll continue to work on their heuristics detection to catch stuff like cronus/xim.

[rustic tinsel]

CL-40 only received a slight nerf. It didn’t even get a dmg nerf. Don’t get me wrong.that’s good.Because we really need to stop with all the dmg nerfs.
But then why,if reasonable nerfs are possible, did you make melee weapons completely unusable?

The dagger,sword,sledgehammer nerf... I’m honestly losing all interest in the game because of these changes. I can use pretty much every weapon and every class, so I thought I wouldn’t care what got nerfed, as long as it was reasonable. But when weapons I used to enjoy are now so weak they’re practically unplayable, the game just becomes less and less fun. It feels like Embark just said, “Too much hassle to balance. Just delete it.”

There were players who only used melees. How are they supposed to take a patch that basically removes those weapons from the game?
Do you just want to make this into a game where only ARs and DMRs are viable?Then, what’s the point of playing this game?
Try to remember why people liked this game in the first place.

"These adjustments are separate from the broader melee quality-of-life improvements we’re planning for the future."

Don’t just say it. You need to actually revert the melee nerfs.
As the patch notes said, melee sweeps and melee quality-of-life should be handled separately. Right now, melee is practically unusable in WT and ranked.
Please, actually play the game before making balance changes.
Even just a little each day, so you can feel the actual balance for yourselves instead of just listening to the whining of whiners.

Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability and viability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

I don't want to give such harsh feedback.But I do it because I love this game. I can’t just sit back and watch you ruin it.

Sword needs a 140 dmg lunge. All melee weapons needed their pre-nerf stats, which is why it was done.

[cloud jungle]

Please add an option to disable the pixel filter. It gives me intense nausea and I am fully unable to play the mode.

[hearty hatch]

Fix melee. Unreal that it actually went untouched. Very disappointing.

[daring fossil]

the vintage filter on the LTM literally hurts my eyes and gives me a headache. It's also just a haven for all the no-skillers who usually use nothing but the CL40, but good for the other modes for as long as this one is running at least maybe. About 2 rounds of this garbage is all I could tolerate, I don't think there's been an enjoyable LTM since season 2.

[wild lion]

Gonna be honest I'm starting to lose faith that embark even keeps up with the community any more, and I fear there going the way of apex, only listening to the reddit and pros for their balance changes.
They keep consistently making the fun and unique weapons worse and worse, while keeping the standard style fps weapons at a consistent high with little to no tweaking. Yea, the Cerberus needs to be nerfed after one good season but the model could stay meta defining for 4 seasons with no issues, only receiving a few, more minor nerfs, to balance it out. It seems the more unique and goofy the weapon, the less viable embark thinks it should be. Melee is a great example of this mentality. It's perfectly ok for automatics to dominate the mid range meta, but when melees dominate the short range meta it's a problem, which isn't even fully true since shotguns have always been, and are still viable. But since Melees we're too strong at close range (which btw is their entire job) they get nerfed. Of course a sword is frustrating to fight close range, it literally has no other range it can fight at, so if it's weak at close range then it's useless. Another place I see this being a problem is the cl-40, people hate this weapon without even taking 5 seconds to think about it.

• CL-40- 2 direct shots or 2 close splash damage
• Model 1887 2 shots, no crit damage
• CB-01 2 headshots or 2 body shots
• Cerberus 2 shots with or without tick damage
• Pike 2 headshots or 3 body shots
• R.357 1 headshot + melee, or 2 body shots + melee
• FAMAS 2 headshots or 3 body shots + melee
• Dual Blades 2 clicks = 4 swing animations
• Riot Shield 2 clicks = 2 swings
  Credit to @magic ridge this is their list.
  But if all these 2 shots are ok, why is the hard to hit projectile weapon not ok. It's a double standard based on certain players raging without ever even contemplating their position.
  btw I'm a light sword main, and even i think the self damage is bs. It shouldn't be more than %100

[grand crow]

Really loving the new update!

One small problem I've found is that the twitch drops are a bit messed up. When I claimed the 2nd one (broadcast blaze skin for the M26 MATTER) it gave me the broadcast blaze skin for the CERBERUS 12GA instead. I've since claimed the Cerb twitch drops in hopes that thing were just mixed up and that it would give me the matter skin, but I've had no such luck. As of right now it's looking like I'll never get the matter skin, which is unfortunate because that was the only one I really cared about. The drop is already claimed on my twitch account, so I can't go back and claim it again to actually get the skin.

Also, obligatory begging for light specs 🙏

[vital olive]

Cl40 only game mode are you joking? did you all sit in a meeting to decide how best to anger the community? fire the guy that decided to make a CL40 only game mode and fire and blackball the person that decided to pixelate it so heavily that you can't actually see what you are doing, Melee weapons have been ruined, half the time the spear is useless and hit reg is near gone. SHOCKING UPDATE

[royal mango]

Lol, just lol

[proper chasm]

Cl40 only game mode + permanent pixilation to the visuals and audio. Because that's what I have a high end PC for... looking at the game in fucking 240p

[dim hedge]

what flavor crayon is your favorite?

[rugged ginkgo]

cope harder

[untold venture]

another LTM and another set of skins for weapons no one uses (except db) where is my pixelated SA12 skin embark, please i would suck rob personally if you give me an actual good SA12 skin 🫃

[spare ravine]

fix the cheaters embark its a joke at least 1 cheater a lobby

[jagged vector]

Yes embark that’s exactly what the community wanted more cl40 stuff. If you’re catering to a player who you can’t do shit with an actual weapon, just say that.

[spare pagoda]

Personally, not a fan of the new end game scene, I loved seeing the team walk through the arena, with all the damage done, a testament to what happened in the match, while doing their poses... the new one looks generic, as it will be the same platform, with the background just being the skybox of every map, an L in my opinion...

The event is freaking cool tho, peak

(Is not that hard to counter a CL-40 player, HyperElusive, skill issue)

[waxen solar]

Bro you see the fix that mentioned emitter not connecting to someone underneath like a platform. Isn't only supposed to connect with line of sight. Might as well bring back it healing through barricade. Lol

[proven storm]

Why are explosives so inconsistent. Rpg does more dmg to thr user then then the enemy. Nades do same dmg to user and enemy. Cl40 does less dmg to user then enemy. There's no consistency. Why not make it simple and all explosives do same dmg to user and enemy. Honest doesn't make any logical sense to not be that way??

[quick coyote]

Here to voice my annoyance with the upcoming kernel level anti-cheat implementation that was announced in the patchnotes. It's an unnecessary risk to us non-cheating players with minimum usefulness. It is but an illusion of control and anti-cheating measures to a player base.

I know that most video game players have been sold the lie that kernel level anti-cheat works, but it really doesn't. That's why I'm guessing that it hasn't been added until now. But now it makes for good optics to seem like they're going to knock out all the cheaters. When in reality, security might get a few more of the dumbest ones but miss most of them entirely while adding undue risk to everyday users.

1. Most cheating is no longer done with kernel level drivers, instead cheaters and their developers rely on hardware technology, such as internal PCI cards (which can easily trick kernel level drivers) and external raspberry pies as well as malicious user input devices, such as mice. These cheats are easier to setup, less risky to the end user, and harder to detect as they look way more natural. These methods are cheaper and easier to develop for the cheat makers and more accessible to the cheaters.

2. Kernel level drivers creates more problems for innocent users. Possible errors in the driver can lead to permanent computer and data loss. Incidents like Crowdstrike kernal level driver are not isolated. If the most foundational, "necessary," most-government backed, and best funded companies who pay a fortune (probably more than billions) aren't safe against kernel level drivers bricking their entire systems and taking everything offline (because of a miss-attributed pointer) then how is Embark going to guarantee protection? A better implementation for anti memory reading that's safer, less risky to end users, and will be just as consistent, if not more so, is sandboxing the game's memory, similar to windows hypervisor.

[unique wasp]

cuz whenever they do that people get mad that they can dump explosives at point blank and not be disproportionately punished. the cl-40 has also done significantly more damage to the user than the enemy assuming the same distance between the two for awhile now and they just made it higher, check the patch notes

[winged hazel]

Please make Heavy Hitters permanent

[drowsy swift]

New Gamemode skins and reload animations are an absolute banger, would mind the choppy frameskip animations on the sword :3
(after you brought it back from hell)

[true lintel]

Please consider adding an "Apply to All" button for charms and stickers. It's very time consuming to apply them individually. It would especially be helpful now that we have so many outfits to switch between! :)

[floral dust]

This is just me as a developer in the video game industry. I feel that it would be a really cool interaction as well as customization if the riot shield's sticker was on the front so players could have either their calling card or a fun symbol on the front.

[maiden ermine]

we need some sort of protection for people in ranked when a teammate quits mid match

[quartz dirge]

NOBODY ENJOYS CL40 WHEN ITS PROMINENT IN THE GAME DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT IF YOU WANT MONEY

[naive gust]

add stats for nerds. fix anti cheat system (false detection bug affecting lots of windows users and I believe steam deck users too) AND PLEASE PLEASE DONT ADD KERNEL LEVEL DRIVER ANTI-CHEAT! Especially when you're combining it with ai machine learning 💀 kernel level systems are RISKY for innocent users.

[knotty crown]

yeah i just read that, im also pretty disappointed in embark

[sudden trail]

Add skin randomizer to charms, stickers, outfits too.
Universal spin (let teammates see when and how fast we spin. I wanna point my gun to my friends) and ability to use the emote wheel in the main lobbies and match lobbies.

[remote wagon]

Not sure if it's just me, but I always feel kinda sick after playing Blast Off.

[drifting topaz]

Nobody from Embark is reading your non sense essays buddy, just quit the game melee bot

[worldly scaffold]

Update is fire, love it! Blast Off!

[analog cave]

post the full and actual patch notes in the patch channel having to go to the link is deeply annoying

[radiant kettle]

Please reconsider the Addition of Kernel Level anti Cheat. Im already quite pissed about the whole Premium battlepass Thing but Kernel Level anti Cheat would be the Last Nail in the Coffin for me and many Others judging by the Feedback. It causes more harm than it helps. Other Games with Kernel Level anti Cheats cant Beat the cheaters either. Its a lose lose Situation.

[green cliff]

this event is genuinely awful. I never liked CL40/low grav combo and somehow the devs managed to make it go from "i don't like this" to "i'd rather have cancer unironically"

[rancid musk]

The breach drill should be able to drill through and destroy goo. There is some geometry the drill looks like it would flash through but isn’t quite long enough for. The same goes with goo. The damage to goo the breach drill does is also minimal. I’d like to see its drill burrow deeper and stick out a little more. On top of this, the placement range of the drill is a little too short, a lot of the time you try to place it your model blocks it because you have to be so close to it. The breach drill has a lot if potential but is limited by it’s drill depth and placement range. After hitting level 5 in 1 day of playing it’s a ton of fun but I’d like to see it buffed

[obtuse rapids]

sooo, this random sprinting not working bug gonna be fixed er?

[proven crown]

Does ANYONE like low gravity in WT? It's cancer - stop.

[cold bolt]

no one asked for slower across the board equip times, revert it embark jfc

[pulsar jay]

Yeah I don't get this, how do you look at this game and decide equip times of all things are an issue

[rapid vector]

easier to punish cl40 users by running up to them, very nice. can we get some love for the ks23? maybe a headshot multiplier of 1.15? or just take out the bloom? can we give shotguns (minus DB) a small damage buff like 5 damage? If CL users can get punished by self damage trying to use it like a shotgun easier let us shotgunners punish them harder by blitzing them and give them the okey doke

[zinc haven]

quite the peculiar 'balancing' update.

[inner fulcrum]

hi i think the victory screen should start the emote sooner (when we see the contestant from the back) so it doesnt feels like the emote is rushed at the end of the animation

[past night]

Question if anyone knows. But how will Kernal level anti-cheat function with Microsoft making changes ( Windows Resiliency Initiative (WRI)) and start blocking security and drivers from accessing kernel level in future windows update?

https://www.howtogeek.com/windows-kernel-security-changes/

[tender sail]

Why does your game think that, when there's 30 seconds left on the timer, it's better to spawn me at Vault 1 than at the final cashout?

[jagged walrus]

I hate you guys for banning my uubie. You will pay in blood

[astral thorn]

please don't make the game unplayable on Linux with the kernel level anti cheat. Bazzite is the best thing that happened to my gaming PC.

[tired fable]

really cool content this update i love the new LTM i hope it will come back later after event end

[chilly niche]

Can we get 'The Jank Pack' animations for the Double barrel. Having them for the CL40 only but giving us a retro double barrel skin feels like a crieme

[young scroll]

further increase cl40 self damage

[novel trench]

The Lights will never be sated.

[slender cipher]

Why does the tactical veil mesh for hedgehunter and now this vibrant orange one have to be locked to a jacket/upper body clothing item? Separate it. Its so pointless, you have NUMEROUS people wanting to wear the hedge hunter helmet and veil separate from the jacket/upper body clothing item. Some even just want the veil by itself and not have a helmet or mask underneath and have the veil mesh under the facemasks slot so they can wear their own helmet slot item underneath or make it the other way around and keep the helmet and wear whatever facemask slot underneath the veil.

Can you guys at least do the community a favor on the veil mesh for hedgehunter and the newest outfit featuring that vibrant orange veil mesh and separate it and make it a facemask or helmet slot item so it isn't stuck to upper body clothing? People will most likely not care if it phases into some other articles of clothing, they just want it because it looks cool.

[short quarry]

Yes please don't hurt Linux players.

[celest tree]

Fuck Linux players if it means better anticheat

[quartz osprey]

This is so awesome 🔥

[slender pine]

yall gotta fire your weapon balance team cause they've made like 3 changes in the past 2 seasons. shits getting stale as fuck. theres other guns out there besides ARs ya know

[unreal torrent]

did the world a service today. he left mid match so i think he got reported

[restive isle]

Hey, I'm wondering if anyone knows what setting to change to get rid of this lighting? Often I'll be fighting someone but I can't even see them because of this, but I can't seem to find the setting to remove it. I don't really know what channel to post this in.
This only happens when I'm indoors looking outdoors.

[severe linden]

Novelty of ltm wears off too quick, 20 games is a bit much

[stoic jewel]

Please maintain Linux support when anticheat changes. There are plenty of people here and in Linux forums who enjoy this game and spread the word about it being a great shooter with actual Linux support, as there's already too few because they've all implemented unsupported anticheats. even if it's less than 5% of your player base, it matters a lot to have games supporting Linux for the foreseeable future. plenty of us love this game and have invested time and money into it, and being blacklisted from playing it ever again would be a tragedy. Surely there are very few, if not no cheaters running this game on linux; it's very unlikely anyone would ever go through the trouble of changing their operating system to do such a thing. Linux support is very important in these times and even if it's a small bit of the playerbase, we really love this game and want to continue playing it. we don't want our time and money invested into this game to be wasted, the servers may as well be shut down for players like us. Hell, part of the reason I was comfortable switching to Linux in the first place was because my favorite game supported it. Please don't leave us in the dark, and please continue to support us.

[random garden]

CL40 nerf is good but bare minimum

Destruction has had multiple updates recently even though destruction has been head and shoulders the best in the industry since season one... sure it can be better but why improve something thats already the best when other basic aspects of your game are seriously lacking

ALLOCATE TIME AND RESOURCES TO CORE GAMEPLAY

PARTY SYSTEM: I have to re-invite my party when we back out of the practice range and games together.

GUNPLAY: still lots of guns have visual recoil, and shoot true to screen-center rather than true to sight when ADS, even when stationary. if we're gonna have crazy recoil patterns AND visual recoil it just feels bad. sniper scope sway especially, ak just feels like a vague blur with its fire rate, repeater sway is weird, the list goes on.

MELE: todays comments on the sledge make it seem like you all are still guessing as to how to improve mele... wishing we had more concrete answers by now, wishing sword even saw a slight bump up since it got nuked.

[charred rover]

Please don't kick out Linux players when/if you change anti-cheat solutions 🙏

This is the only game I play and I'd be heartbroken lose access because I hate Windows.

And honestly, I feel, because of how the Finals is designed that the game would be very conducive to server-side anti cheat.

If y'all have machine learning monitoring player behavior it seems the plumbing is already there!

[leaden shell]

wow first game after cl40 nerf and triple light wins nice work embark

[ruby timber]

Nerf double barrel

[fathom aurora]

this shit wallhack event still on? lmao, bye

[umbral rampart]

New game mode, blast off is super fun. Bit of nostalgia kick.

Edit: Didn't see the CL nerf... it's a real shame that Lights keep being catered to. The 'reasons' that you stated are honestly just bs. And if it's genuine, then the wider picture needs to be looked at.

[broken citrus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/FEqYIaxlrQ

[nova mica]

I feel like these two should be swapped? How does the massive minigun have a shorter deploy time than the shak?

The shak just got a 50% deploy time increase nerf, that seems insane and uncalled for

[next flax]

Embonk can U please stop with the inflated prices of the animation packs. I think 100 for a rare 200 for a epic and 400 for a legendary is a good place for the prices.

[brisk halo]

I think the Event is a cool idea, but if there wont be a way to turn of those effects i will have to skip out. Really sad, because i would love to grind that, but i have a headache after a single round.

[crisp garnet]

I see this in the patch notes:
Improved security: we will also begin an incremental rollout of a new kernel-based anti-cheat solution.
Will this impact Linux in some ways?

[visual wave]

@novel trench 1000%

Embark has one of the best dev teams ever. This new event rocks, and the minigun does the environment damage id expect from it, awesome

[tame pivot]

EAC is already kernel level you dum dum

[quartz folio]

Embark please fix player spawns please fix the ranking system I should not be going against rubies in high gold low plat and PLEASE fix the h infuser

[feral elm]

This pixelated thing isn't super nice and doesn't really consider any visual accessibilty issues does it ? UGH

[cedar cave]

I love this new gamemode, i get people wanting to remove the pixel filter, but the mode itself is DOPE

[dreamy marlin]

Day 1 of asking embark to please let us use the reserve in ranked :c, it would mitigate the frustration a lot of people have with certain weapons with out the need of nerfing them, it would allow for niche and fun loadouts to be more present in ranked, for that same reason more people would be willing to try new weapons in a serious matter, for example if you've been practicing with the R357 but still feel insecure about your ability to use it effectively you could just bring it and if you don't feel you're ready then you could swap for a more familiar weapon, and I think it will improve the health of the game over all

[south coyote]

The finals is the best game if anyone says otherwise I don’t know u

[dry kiln]

For the love of god pls fix cloak. Still very easy to be seen

[worldly owl]

How come there isn't a dab emote yet? I would love to dab on my enemies.

[pine frigate]

Today's weapons "patch" literally doesn't help any of the actual issues with them.

[limpid spade]

Rawrybiggyrawr

[brave rover]

While ur at it I wanna hit the dougie on these hoes

[atomic delta]

this new mode is a no lifer magnet. only been getting ppl with either emerald/ruby/diamond or amethyst as a fucking unranked who would be gold at MAX.
matchmaking is stupid in this game but it always has been sooo...

@zinc oasis
thats not what im saying dumbass.
im saying that i want to play against ppl my skill level not that pros are not allowed to play it. learn to read

[shrewd echo]

Props on the game mode,

[wooden shuttle]

Blast off might be the biggest piece of dogshitt ever made

[lofty dune]

embark has already said that they intend to keep linux support going, even with the new kernal anti cheat, so we can only hope they keep their promise on it. (source: #1235610365098987621 message)

[zinc oasis]

Mfs when the dedicated players play the new game mode, anyone better than me should not be allowed to play >:(

[west glacier]

why all LTM gender locked? 😂

[light zenith]

stfu

[harsh cliff]

Ranked lobbies are just toxic, teams help each other this is just boring to play, for Christ sake dont let us see each other's names in the match. There is no need for people to know of they are playing together or not. It's just not fair. I just don't know how to play this toxic ranked

[ruby dew]

Another patch and mele still shit... LETS GO!!!

[broken crest]

ANOTHER PATCH AND MELE will be not buffed again EMBARKKK TEAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
BUFFFFF SWORRDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[wide void]

nerfed Model (was already niche and in rare use)
nerfed Cerberus (was already in falling in use after the two consecutive damage nerfs)
nerfed CL-40 (was already awful above Gold)
>STILL NO BUFFS FOR ANY MELEE WEAPONS (no, the left click Sledgehammer hitreg change doesn't make it kill any better)

and why the FUCK would you make so many weapons equip/unequip SLOWER all the sudden? It throws off people's muscle memory...

Seriously, unironically fire your balancing team.

[distant oar]

Yeah griefing is a fucking bitch in high elo

[eternal bobcat]

The global ray tracing illumination + every shadow casting (outdoors and indoors) are not working on pc after the update. Lightning leaks from inside and the game is shadowless.
I cant show images here, but i have prints
4K max settings NVIDIA 4000 series latest drivers

[true pollen]

cl40 was not awful, the gun was low skill garbage, still an inadequate nerf

[short fern]

Need more damn loadout slots

[tough olive]

pretty sure this is just the case for everyone and i think it's because the game uses screenspace lighting so i dont think you can turn it off

[hallow stump]

So, is it intentional that if I rightclick using my spear, and right as I do so, I get winched, but only like a meter, the spin gets cancelled, but I am unable to attack for the full duration that the initial spin would have lasted!?

[versed gull]

Just remove melee from the game if you don't intend on ever making it viable again.

[visual pine]

GG's everyone playing this game, we had a fun run through the slop these devs have shoveled. Cant tell their ass from their elbows when it comes to game balance. Maybe Arc Raiders will share the same fate, but hopefully not.

[echo panther]

buff pyro and gas grenade

[spare ravine]

panic button too much

[feral shard]

Day 35 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)

It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes

It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex

Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it

(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)

(OH GOD THE NEW GAMEMODE IS INCREDIBLE, LOVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENTS OMG)

(I love this game, always better than before.)

[sleek forge]

nope, best things they’ve done for comp integrity of the game

[reef spade]

so you made us wait 3 weeks for this shitty balance changes? we get fucking 0.1 equip times changes... LMAO? most lamest tone-deaf team in existence right now.
this game might as well just choke and die at this point, good luck with your major with these broken ass servers, sub optimal performance and bugs.
support you through battlepass? what a joke.

[frail spoke]

So angry…

[twilit sand]

Please add a soloq only ranked mode. It's unbearable

[sterile canopy]

I think I will never understand what drives people to sound so spiteful in contexts like this

[undone igloo]

the new gamemode gives me a headache😔

[stuck wolf]

its supposed to look like that?
thought I needed to update my nvidia drivers 😬

[placid acorn]

dear embark, make the next event heavy hitters with grappling hooks xoxo

[earnest valve]

I was thinking what would a new specialization look like for light and medium builds beacause we haven’t gotten new ones what so ever sense season 3 so i was wondering what a new one could look like maybe a sprint boost for light or a wingsuit or medium could get a gun sheild which when shot reduces gadget timers these are just ideas I thought of

[naive seal]

The latest balance patch is insulting. Plenty of weapons that are bad or feel horrible to use.

[fading cobalt]

I've changed my suggestions recently.

MGL32 needs:

• Slightly faster projectile speed.

• Less bounce when used from height and when fired close to the user's feet.

• 84-86 damage (up from 83) so that three full damage nades kill Medium instead of leaving them with literally one HP. That being said, if they do the suggestion further down, this change might not be needed.

• Nades should break and pass through objects like balloons, wooden shutters/the windows on Kyoto, and props like chairs and pots (same with KS-23 slugs).

• "Aiming" should show the initial arc of the shot like nades do.

• 5-10 damage from the nade hitting an enemy directly.

• If they insist on having linear explosion scaling, then there should be a minimal damage. Meaning that instead of dropping all the way to 1 damage at the outermost edge, it should only get as low as 40-50 damage.

I was super against linear scaling damage on explosions, but now I'm coming around to the idea of the scaling having a damage floor higher than 1.

So basically, if you get a hitmarker with MGL32, I should know I at least did somewhat significant damage.

[echo urchin]

OK, so if we have the American flag cape in the game now we need to get all the other countries flags in the game as well

[rustic hill]

Can you guys pls fix the jump pad i place it and I jst run past like its not there im jst asking pls fix it

[quick coyote]

3. Apex Legends Tournaments could be all I need to say on this topic... Kernel level drivers gives enterprising hackers full system access to install cheats (trolllolol), ransomware, and RAT's. This is one reason that I and several other players left Apex Legends. Their kernel level security systems left the entire player base vulnerable to whatever hacker can find an exploit in the driver. This problem is not just isolated to Apex Legends. Any kernel level anti cheat is a ticking time bomb, waiting for a hacker to find an exploit. This is because anti-cheat systems are not about security for a user, they're about security for a company through full kernel level spyware. There have been a few strains of ransomware that are specifically targeted at systems using easy anti cheat's kernel level systems because they have left backdoors in the product. Same with battle eye. Same with any anti cheat system with kernel level access.

4. Applications aren't meant to have kernel level access. The finals and its systems are user applications. Simple computer architecture designs dictate that the application in no way should be messing with the kernel. Kernel drivers are for... wait for it... hardware drivers. That's why they're called drivers. Most modern drivers don't even go to the kernel if they can help it. They're meant for the most bare bones hardware, like GPU's and CPU's. If my mouse and keyboard don't need a kernel level driver, why should the finals need it?

5. What's next? Cut off Linux support? I keep trying to get the finals to run on my linux machine as I know other people have been able to do so. Linux isn't highly supported, but its still technically possible. If we're following every other shooter game's anti cheat methodology, you're just going to keep tightening your strangle hold until you completely lock everyone on PC out of playing on anything but Windows. Do you know how many potential players that will cost you overtime?

[upper vortex]

Getting really sick of this idiotic balancing... I was happy to have healing emitter as an alternative to dome shield but now it's just clunky, buggy and annoying to use. There was no reason to nerf this item, just like there was no reason to nerf the sledgehammer.

[noble path]

revert hammer nerf it does LESS damage per second in MELEE RANGE THAN RANGED WEAPONS BRO

[vale tapir]

PLEASE NERF THE FUCKING HEAVY GRAPPLE

[summer bluff]

Thanks for the patch. Comprehensible changes! CL-40 nerf was appropriate but not excessive. Maybe a tiny little model buff (reload speed)? 🥹

[steel shell]

Please buff the sword. It’s been so long since it was nerfed and it somehow has a longer ttk than many ranged guns even though you have to risk your whole life just to get close enough to do any damage, whereas even an smg like m11 can do okay damage from farther away. I just feel like melee has lost its identity and so the finals has lost some of its uniqueness with it. Melee weapons actually being viable was part of what made this game so fun when I started playing back in season one and now it feels like they just don’t want anyone to use melee at all.

[barren silo]

This event is mad boring what the hell

[wary flax]

Nerf double barrel

[frigid horizon]

Yo devs. What the hell is up with this "complete 40 daily contracts" contract?
I am not trying to do 5 dailies in 3 matches and then wait like 17 hours to repeat it for 8 more days

[sudden lake]

I think it makes exceptionally good sense to allow us to trade in VRs for show tokens so that VRs finally have a second purpose in life over a year and a half into this game's existence

[rocky sluice]

increase in equip times is so wack the reason this game is good is bc everything is fast

[serene arrow]

What is going on with the ping and lag? Can you please fix the sever issues before tossing in an event next time?

[quick coyote]

Add a sound when you get invited to a party, several times you could be in your phone or alt-tabbed and never notice you got invited.
It could use the ''Ready to respawn'' sound effect maybe? Could be anything.

[sonic arrow]

Please fix your EU servers (specifically your Czech Republic data center), I get 90mbps but your upstreams seem to bring it down to 2mbps. I have a club member in AFRICA that plays on EU with 20mbps AND he has FEWER issues than I do playing

[remote prism]

GUYS, there s a huge problem with Medium cass weaons, they deal too low damage and feels sooo uncomfortable. u should do some improvement ASAP, make it more forgiving to new players, reduce recoil and improve fire rate pleeeease

[jaunty vapor]

decrease weapon switch times. Nobody likes it. All you are doing is making the gameplay less intensive, less skilled, and less fun. You are doing nothing to improve the balance.

[hollow zealot]

Could you please make the prairie twirl animation for pike-556 that you unlock at BP 87 useable with the skin you unlock at 88 Sanctionframe/Judicore Override, its kinda unfortunate that you unlock a new animation for the gun, only for it to not be useable with the skin you unlock the next level 😅

[tacit whale]

How about for the next season we get a new specialisation where you swap your skill for an extra equipment slot. This could be available to all classes

[next timber]

So medium FINALLY gets a good weapon against the cancerous lights and you turn around and nerf it because the little kids with no skill are complaining? This game will never have a competitive scene and it's going to lose its casuals as well when you're just listening to the wannabe pro players. Buff cl40 back to what it was, completely useless now

[split ermine]

new mode is absolut blast. I love quake. Everything from the centered weapon and movement is so awesome.

[worldly scaffold]

Far from useless, it is fine still. Only time you really notice the change is self damage (which you should not be taking in the first place), splash is a bit more hard now, but you should be trying to hit directly to enemy anyway. But I would prefer the old less ammo, more damage CL, over the current one (the one that was considered the "worst gun in the game").

[vivid halo]

Haven't played yet, but I heard the "no skill required" CL40 has been nerfed? This makes me emotional if it's true

[slender pine]

keeping walls in the game as events is trash, yall fucked up with that. especially when we just ended the last 30 seconds of the game with the event???? come on devs. major L

also your balancing teams sucks

[wispy island]

Yeah im pretty sure

[keen lily]

yes idiots I want to fight ruby stacks solo queueing at 32k, fix your game!

[upbeat creek]

Another day, another horrible patch... next patch: we remove heavy and medium and let the light

[winter panther]

An update where the light didn’t get anything? Why?

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the first swing damage in the combo from 65 to 70 making it 70, 80, 90 and increase the spin attack damage to 120

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either give it a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block all melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it's bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

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[mellow narwhal]

i am once again asking for smoke and thermal to be nerfed either by nerfing smoke or removing smoke from lights

[untold venture]

Completely useless? sounds like skill issue brother, they didn’t touch the damage, rof or projectile speed only splash and self damage, aim more and don’t shoot at your feet and you’ll be fine broski

[river heath]

I'm really enjoying the new blast off! gamemode but i think we should introduce a new gamemode category - i.e party/arcade where it's heavy hitters, blast off! etc.

let's not turn into CoD where we lock these fun game modes behind timed events

[twilit geode]

BESTHUNTER#4768 is cheater - using aim hack to headshot!!!

[supple dawn]

The new gamemode, Blast off, is giving me eye strain and headaches

[safe ravine]

Hey Embark, pls check out the medieval map i requested in #🌍┇maps
Also, I think u should embrace the sandbox-aspect of ur game more and maybe allow for community goofy gamemodes.
Would be awesome to have for example, as an introduction to a new season (I'm specially thinking medieval season) to:

• introduce the new castle map in a LTE for a couple days before releasing it
• introduce cool upcoming skins in the LTE as premade loadouts for specific classes (Heavy spear shield and heals: Paladin skin, Medium riot shield breacher: tanky warrior skin, Light bow flasher: ranger skin) - and putting them in the shop later to promote skins and sales
• more players per game, a 10v10 sounds too much, but something between 5-10 players on either side

Not sure how i can explain the vision, but look up the game Lotr Conquest (similar to a battlefront game but medieval)
Basically a capture points but in castles as to enphasize breach, and invading each others castle (defending+attacking)
I think teasing upcoming skins in LTE would boost store sales instead of doing predatory 30$ bp, cuz personally im not looking to much at the store as i think bp skins are way superior, and teasing for their items are pretty much non existent. PROMOTE the SHOP (we would buy more MB)

[pine robin]

Can someone help me, Ever since i updated the finals i cannot get the game to launch, i resintalled it and verified game files. i keep getting a fatal error. exitcode 206

[royal fractal]

Everytime a team respawns, they spawn litterally almost ontop of my head....
no litterally they spawn next to a cashout station when its not active.

When you are about to plug they spawn ontop of you.

this happens like every match ever since the "spawning improvement"

[gentle timber]

I need a wishlist for the store, please
Sometimes I really like these random things that appear on the top of the character editor, but I wont buy them right now

[frozen tree]

Yeah same here, I feel like whenever someone is going to start a cashout a wiped team spawns on that cashout

[plush fjord]

Fix the servers.
Fix the hit reg and hitboxes
Fix the matchmaking
Fix the bugs.
Buff Dagger, MGL32, Model.

[bleak moss]

@charred delta this does need to be addressed. Embark started messing with the spawns again and they have been completely busted since last season. It is ridiculous dealing with multiple teams spawning near your cashout. The amount of third parties that I have to deal with in ranked is insane and it completely kills my drive to play this game.

[gleaming gust]

Shit take

[foggy nymph]

You are being ignored. Stop being annoying.

[vivid seal]

honestly nothing embark can do is going to please the game-feedback shitters anyways

[honest verge]

The new end game animation with the contestants is welcome.

Sledge/Goo Gun doesn't feel like it accurately awards score. Or at least I don't think the scoreboard reflects my contribution for ccing and stopping cashout steals.

[burnt notch]

Im saying

[outer sphinx]

Allow to turn off the retro-vision overlay on the Blast off! gamemode to help with people who can't handle motion sickness in games.

[wild lion]

Sword and Sledgehammer
Ok my bread and butter baby is up first, and all I gotta ask is why did you kill my son, my boy. Like he's dead, buried and you spit on his grave. So the problem I see is that people are frustrated with how hard a sword can be to kill, but the problem is getting good with sword takes a very high skill floor, higher than almost every other weapon in the game. And the counter to sword is very simple, stay aware of your surroundings and shoot him. Like just shoot the rat, they can't do anything to you. The biggest issue i face as a sword main is people just shooting me before I get close enough, and once I am close enough I feel like it's wrong to complain that im powerful. I'm a Melee weapon, obviously if I either outsmart or out maneuver you and manage to get in Melee range I should have the advantage. Your gun is flat out superior to my sword in every range except Melee, so it's only fair I excel there. It's the same problem I see with the sledgehammer nerf, these are Melee weapons. If you fuck up and let me close the distance then that's on you, and If I out smart you and sneak behind you then again, I'm playing well and deserve the advantage. That's the point of Melee, Melee shouldn't just be a baby's first weapon for people who can't aim. It is it's own weapon class and deserves the ability to be viable and have a high skill ceiling, the only Melee weapons that I think fits into the baby's first category are the spear and the riot shield, and that's cause there is literally better alternatives to both those weapons should you get better( flamethrower/sledgehammer and dual swords respectively).

[main vale]

add bunnings saussage sizzle to game so i can be a happy australian player

[sterile wharf]

I feel like it would benefit the practice range if on the outside area of the practice range (like the outdoorsy looking thing) embark could add a terminal similar to the one at the place where you do challenges but in this terminal you can pick different environments (like the environments in kyoto and other maps), game events (like meteor shower, low gravity, etc.), and times of day or weather (like night, day, noon, rain, dust storm from vegas) and this could help people get even better practice in dealing with the multiple different environments of THE FINALS.

[brisk garden]

yall gotta TURN DOWN THE GLITCH EFFECT in the LTM. I have never had vision discomfort from gaming but my eyes and head literally hurt from playing one game of this.

[novel trench]

The pixel effect in the LTM has permanently altered my vision, I’m seeing geometry not present prior and my world is crumbling around me

[tropic wasp]

Why no Canada Day Gear?? Like yea i get more Americans probably play this. But come on man

[real wyvern]

Shotguns, melee and precision weapons need their identity back.
The obsession for the same TTK and circling around the lights low hp as if it wasnt the one and only disadvantage of that class is not good for the game.

I suggest making melee and shotguns scary up close again.
Whats even the point if both are outdamaged by smgs, ARs and LMGs? The only shotguns worth their name are light shotguns.

Precision weapons, especially those slow ones, should do 2x headshot damage like LH1 does.
Repeater and Pike have nothing to offer. The big risk for missing and bad hipfire is there, but no reward for actually scoring a good hit in the head.
Revolver is being bullied by lights that survive with 2hp. It really needs +1 damage.

[grave bane]

4 team, 5 man cashout.

[nova mica]

Please revert the nerfs to weapon equip/un-equip times.

It makes them all more clunky and sluggish, really really not a fan of those nerfs.

0.3 seconds is such a long time to take out a weapon 😭

[magic zodiac]

New gamemode idea: Party mode. When you play it selects a random gamemode from all the previous limited time events and you play it.

[pliant lichen]

Yeah. Weird change that noone asked for. And they did it to the KS-23 of all things..? It feels like a pointless change that a software designer for a phone company would make to the ui that annoys the entire user base, but it let's them keep their job cos it makes it look like they're doing something lmao.

[paper stump]

make blast off 5v5 for more chaos

[snow heart]

Playing WT and getting completely stomped every fucking match. I mean EVERY SINGLE MATCH. Did this new update come with everyone getting walls and aim? Holy shit this is brutal lmao. Anybody else?

[wooden sand]

here my hot take, rework the db into a full boomstick weapon if you want to keep the oneshots. it will blow both barrels at the same time forcing more risk for the insane reward

[pliant whale]

this game's netcode is NOT good enough for this LTM, I'm getting no reg'd constantly on rockets

[lapis basin]

PLEASE REVERT SWORD BACK TO 140 LUNGE

[full dragon]

No to Kernel level Anti-Cheat

[sinful finch]

LTM sucks. its a living hell. 20 matches is crazy

[steady breach]

I wish players didnt have to choose between shooting the enemy and shooting the lockbolt because the enemy not only has the advantage of you being stuck in place, but they can also peek in and out way better or have more time to surround you. I believe shooting it should cause it to finish faster so dumping half your mag into it isnt as punishing (though the duration and health may need to be buffed to compensate for it).

This change is basically to simplify the disadvantage of being lockbolted from choosing to shoot the lockbolt or the enemy, to shooting the lockbolt and the enemy

[midnight aurora]

another LTM another gamemode full of leavers what fun

[jagged vector]

Nerf dual blades holy fuck such a dumb idea

[quick coyote]

Skill issue they are already terrible

[simple ether]

Jesus the matchmaking in this game. 4 matches back to back where 2 of my teamates or MORE went like 2/14! And if my crappy teamates werent bad enough, I get put up against a 4 or 5 stack clan with these crappy teamates. 🤦‍♂️

[latent shoal]

the mode blast off is fun but i think whitout the retro filter it's can be better

[warped kraken]

whatchu guys think of the contracts with cns override and ltm event?

[heady quail]

Please add an option to choose which skins are in the random pool

[rustic tinsel]

The dagger,sword,sledgehammer nerf... I’m honestly losing all interest in the game because of these changes. I can use pretty much every weapon and every class, so I thought I wouldn’t care what got nerfed, as long as it was reasonable. But when weapons I used to enjoy are now so weak they’re practically unplayable, the game just becomes less and less fun. It feels like Embark just said, “Too much hassle to balance. Just delete it.”

There were players who only used melees. How are they supposed to take a patch that basically removes those weapons from the game?
Do you just want to make this into a game where only ARs and DMRs are viable?Then, what’s the point of playing this game?
Try to remember why people liked this game in the first place.

"These adjustments are separate from the broader melee quality-of-life improvements we’re planning for the future."

Don’t just say it. You need to actually revert the melee nerfs.
As the patch notes said, melee sweeps and melee quality-of-life should be handled separately. Right now, melee is practically unusable in WT and ranked.
Please, actually play the game before making balance changes.
Even just a little each day, so you can feel the actual balance for yourselves instead of just listening to the whining of whiners.

Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability and viability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

I don't want to give such harsh feedback.But I do it because I love this game. I can’t just sit back and watch you ruin it.

Sword needs a 140 dmg lunge. All melee weapons needed their pre-nerf stats, which is why it was done.

[normal reef]

Thank you for the cl40 nerf

The new LTM is insanely good too

New win screen is better than ever

Overall decent update, now all I want is a reason to pick up melee again

[rotund gust]

give Bullseye Barry the practice dummy voice 😢

[ripe nacelle]

Anyone finding the hit marker animation upon getting a elimination is bugged post patch? Most of the time the red animation doesn’t play anymore and it’s really confusing if I got the kill until the text shows up now. Sometimes it works but it definitely wasn’t like this before.

[odd snow]

Why do explosive mines get no love? I understand embark doesn’t like 1 tap but making them in line with pyros and gas mines seems right.

They should do 145 If you have to wait for a 2nd charge for 15 seconds. I just don’t understand two pyro mines basically do that + more for the fire. The explosive mine is weaker than the germane!!!

Cmon

[quasi delta]

Day 14 of waiting until Embark is compliant with 2025 EU consumer protection guidelines.

[sweet locust]

Just wanted to come here and say that the 8-bit filter on the new game mode completely ruined it for me. I played one match and hated it. I pay good money for my computer to run graphic intensive game and this is a step in the opposite direction of that. Keep the filters on Snapchat.

I was so excited for this new game mode based on the descriptions I saw and was just let down so hard.

[cloud jungle]

Let us disable the nausea inducing pixel filter and audio processing in the new game mode.

[median bloom]

Yeah agree. Not a bad game mode or event but why the shit graphics

[upbeat inlet]

Please just fix the servers, I beg thee.

[warped crescent]

bring back hammers

[drifting pawn]

weird, I can't change my embark ID name for 29 days. I haven't changed it at all in some months

[ornate sage]

Day 6 of asking embark for more outifit slots please, thank you.

[drifting topaz]

GIVE US SHAK ANIMATIONS

[storm fractal]

Give us new body types for medium and light thank you
The current ones do not represent people with C+ cup size, as well as people with wider shoulders
I know it's silly but I've been spending a lot of money on skins since I've got this game and I would really love to see more inclusivity when it comes to different body types
You guys are already doing a great job but there is lots of room for improvement

[ocean shore]

PLEASE BRING BACK SINGLE ROUND CASHOUT I LOVE YOU EMBARK. STOP REMOVING CASUAL MODES ❤️

[ionic monolith]

Never remove retro filter. Put it on everything.

[fleet quiver]

hell yeah obese light

[hazy skiff]

Horse

[tawny grove]

Famas nerfed why. Maybe im insane but I was really hoping for a buff on this gun, ether a headshot multiplier or an extra pellet , but it was nerfed???? am I missing something or what

[astral whale]

honestly the KS-23 nerf is worse

[remote blade]

as a melee main specialy sword i agree with this message even if i still pull good kill ammounts did a 22 with knife and 19 with sword today (in ps) against actual good player i can t do anything cause even if i manege to get in range the dps is both slow af and low af light take at least a lunge and swing if he got 2 brains cells active with dash or grapple he is gone and i aint catching him medium i need 1 lunge 2 swings so again if he can aim im dead heavy simple if he got a flammy im dead maybe he dies but im for sure dead and the winding for the backstab on the knife is just soooooo long and u can t prewind too early cause u get slowed alot so the knife really only works on clueless players if the ennemi as sonars or checks is suroundings if i miss my backstab i will never in a 100 years do enought dps with the light attacks final for sledges they are basicly a joke if its not a sledge chad infront of me he is just dead even with the nerfed sword there is no pressure attacking a sledge its just a ez target if his timing is not pin point perfect il just lunge his health down and he can t do nothing but watch

[agile heath]

Did you guys add skill based match making recently because match making has been absolute bullshit recently plus the new game mode is way to skill based and in no way casual friendly

[wary flax]

Nerf Double Barrel, buff aim assist, remove PC players from console lobbies (only Xbox and PS5)

[slender cipher]

Hoping that we see more weapons have versions of "The Jank Pack" added to them, I love how simplistic and how its an omage to older style games like quake, I also love the season event thats currently happening and gonna strive to earn everything in it.

Also, can we seriously have the option implemented to choose voice depending on what face we have unlocked? Just noticed more of the mythic stuff getting the glitchy male/female muffled male/female voices, but it kinda prevents people from utilizing things like The Devourer's voice since the helmet overrides it rather than the face choice overriding it. The option was in the game earlier, surprised it wasn't fully implemented yet since the option was right there, you just couldn't choose anything for it. I'm hoping this feature gets implemented soon before season 8.
We should also have an option to toggle on and off voice modification from helmets and masks incase we want to keep our original voice from whatever face we choose option wise.

Like, I really liked using The Devourers voice with the Vextron helmet and the Neurosplice Terminal mythic helmet but this update put voice filters on both pieces of headwear, now if I wanna hear it, I gotta use something else headwear wise that doesn't put a voice filter affect over the current voice I want to hear.

[gritty blaze]

removing the ability to mix and match facewear with the orbital witness headwear was an L move, it was harmless and let you customize the headwear with certain facewear options

[tardy pendant]

I feel like the CL-40 nerf was a bit too harsh. Maybe it’s just because I’m not used to it yet but a 17% decrease in inner-radius seems a bit much. Maybe something more like 10-12%, 53-55cm.
Self-Damage has also been screwing me over more but that’s just a skill issue™ on my part, I didn’t pick up CL-40 until after self damage was dropped from 1.6x

Also one more thing, I love the new victory screen. I’d love to see more variations on it though, perhaps special ones depending on if you got a knockout in TDM/Power Shift or not, or if one person on the team got all the best stats, or some other kind of requirements met. Taking inspiration from how in Splatoon 3 if you and another teammate get 3 golden medals, you fist bump on the end screen after doing the emote.

[covert dagger]

Who's AWFUL idea was this LTM LMFAO

[analog cave]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU EMBARK,

thank you for making it so that in the LTM's, you arent stuck with a male avatar! been asking for this since back in s1!

[subtle zinc]

I love the new cl 40 ltm

[uneven mountain]

I've been getting teammates who are worse than me more often than usual. its getting annoying

[potent pawn]

Thanks for adding the new 'normal ass backpack' very appreciated. But you need to give heavy body type 04 more ass still.

[dreamy owl]

a shit new mode, a shit nerf , what a game

[versed gull]

Buff dagger buff sword

Make melee viable in ranked

[lofty hornet]

Sooo. Everyone complains about the CL40 needing a nerf... It got the smallest baby nerf... And as a reward, we have to play 20 rounds of a CL40 only game mode. WTF is this ... absolute garbage torture.

Honestly, pretty impressive troll job by the devs.

[fleet socket]

Bring back being able to do the poses in the battle passes on any outfits, it was a fun way to get screenshots without having to time emotes right

[gentle timber]

its not 2025 consumer protection guidelines. it was approved in 2025. Business have until 2026 to adapt

[jagged vector]

Add a kill cam please

[nova mica]

YEA

[arctic sentinel]

so there is liberty loadout, where is my victory day loadout, it would look cool 👍

[broken crest]

BUFF SWORD AND DAGGER
MAKE MELE WEAPONS VIABLE IN RANKED EMBARK TEAM
for what is the game feedback channel if you don't do the things that the community says

[supple mortar]

Can you please revert sword nerf? I really just want to have the option of winning a 1v1 against a heavy/light. Just the possibility, you know.
I don't even want to play the game with how it is rn

[lyric ore]

Could yall add the ability for console to connect mouse and keyboard? Honestly this would make the game a lot more balanced for cross play. And if someone has a mouse and keyboard hooked up make it so that the have to play cross play (this is so they don’t dominate console lobbies)

[vale tapir]

NERF LIGHT DOUBLE BARREL MAN

[rustic tinsel]

Revert melee nerfs. Especially sword and sledgehammer. They were fine. Actually, it was only used by those who knew how to use it. All melee weapons needed their pre-nerf stats, and that’s why they were originally set that way.

Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability and viability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Sword was built around close-range and Light’s low hp. it required specific dmg combinations for each classes.so lunge was 140 dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + m1 + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + m1.
This is the most ideal.

You must stop listening to nerf whiners.There’s no end to the nerf whiners’ whining. When something they wanted nerfed without any real balance reason gets nerfed(dislike cause skill issue),they just move on to whine about the next thing.

[onyx crystal]

"spawns are perfect with no errors"

[errant crater]

REMOVE QUEUED INPUTS ON LMB/WEAPON SHOOTING

[plucky maple]

Blast Off is hot garbage for casual players unless you're a masochist

[iron forum]

i am playing on console because i finally could afford me a console to stop playing on GeForceNow and i can't keep up with the controller movement and play, i need the KB & M on console please, listen to this man

[visual sierra]

PLEASE nerf defibs. It would be nice to have other choices

[raw bobcat]

I have a good suggestion!

• make that you can make your own map for the training big box in partice and change the dummy spawn locations there accuracy etc. And change waves amount + that you can also share your map with other players

[hidden locust]

GIVE US THE JANK PACK ANIMATION SET FOR THE DOUBLE BARREL PLEASE
ILL GIVE YOU A KIDNEY

[cosmic cloud]

Really bad timing releasing a limited time mode that requires such a high degree of tracking and precision that controllers don't have, without first rolling out console mouse and keyboard support.

And what is wrong with this LTM matchmaking creating extremely unbalanced lobbies? This LTM has killed my desire to play The Finals.

[hot imp]

I have a few suggestions, would be very cool if the new retro skins had jagged edges like these games back in the day that had no anti-aliasing
Also, make enemies suicides count as kill if we dealt damage to them in the last 5 seconds, lots of times the enemy kills itself with CL-40 or jumps off the map to die quicker and we lose the kill.
Being able to change the gun buddy location would be cool too.

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller on consoles

[icy fog]

Thanks Embark for the Quake 3 Arena experience in "Blast Off"! What a time lapse. Feels like the very old days again. Much appreciated!

[frail spoke]

lmao. for real?

[elfin dock]

Fuck this equip time upgrade fuck model 1887 fuck that weapon delete that at this point why keep fucking show off shot gun which does less damage than a kick from the toddler

[short fern]

More damn loadout slots

[plain palm]

anyone who says swords arent viable has a vibe based opinion and is wrong

[faint saddle]

Mfers when they tell me their sword or sledge got gutted when I show them dagger changes;

Backstab damage reduced from 350 to 320

Multihit removed

Backstab windup increased from 500ms to 800ms

Sprinting disabled during backstab windup

Movement heavily slowed while charging backstab

Removed tap-to-release, now hold-only to backstab

Attack undercharges when released early

Backstab angle reduced from 180° to 150°

Cannot melee through Goo anymore

Cannot backstab turrets or Goo anymore
Must use primary attacks on turrets and Goo

Can melee trough dome/mesh if not clipping enemy model

Over 8 different dagger game breaking bugs making the weapon feel awfull and making it unusable for weeks untill the bug got fixed
https://tenor.com/view/emo-gun-shooting-gun-shooting-kid-gif-1405619412372921898

[dense ocean]

let us remove players outlines in spectator mode pretty please

[gloomy garnet]

you can,There is a hotkey in spectator. Got introduced in S6

[clear sapphire]

Every new patch. the game feels worse

[honest elk]

add the contestant number 00

[hoary perch]

BUFF ALL MELEE WEAPONS

[twilit sand]

Ngl, I kind of like that the vaults are spawning closer to the cashouts. There is next to no chance for a team to spawn on the cashbox you're going to. You rarely end up having two or more fight over one vault so there is less chance to stagger the cashouts which means a better overall cashout experience as 3rd parties are less likely

[normal sail]

@wispy cave

[fading flame]

Now that you’ve improved destruction, you need to make buildings creak when they’re falling, or about to fall.

[rustic tinsel]

Don't listen to those kids who are obsessed with saying "I'm different from everyone else" while leeching off others and only going for the last hit. The fact is, if it had been guns, it would have been much easier, safer, and would have resulted in more kills.

As written in the patch notes, You guys have realized and admitted that melees need a buff.

Revert melee nerfs. Especially sword and sledgehammer. Nerfing melee damage is complete nonsense. They were fine. Actually, it was only used by those who knew how to use it. All melee weapons needed their pre-nerf stats, and that’s why they were originally set that way.

Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability and viability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + m1 + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + m1.
This is the most ideal.

Quick melee combos naturally happen with all melees, and you intended it that way because they’re necessary. It just increases the skill ceiling.

[plush fjord]

Model 1887 currently does the damage of a New Year's Firecracker

Fgs buff that gun. The fact that it cannot eliminate a heavy that is stealing the cashout before the cashout is taken (with all shots hitting) is dumb asf. No weapon should be so weak that it can't take down an opponent before he steals the cashout.

(I dumped in around 6 shots directly ON the heavy from start of the cashout steal timer to the end and the heavy took even more shots than that to completely die. Private match with my friend to test this out.)

[ashen eagle]

give sniper different sights SNIPER IS UNDERPOWERED GIVE IT ALL THE OTHER SCOPES SNIPER IS UNDERPOWERED

[cobalt kernel]

i want iron sights for sniper.. just take of the scope

Buff Pyro nade AOE

Buff breach charge fuse time, takes forever to explode

Buff Reshaper recharge time or give third charge back

BRING BACK BANK IT

[round isle]

Please ensure that when clambering up damaged concrete walls that the contestant can stand on it and do a full 360 rotation. If you can clim it you should be able to stand on it and fully rotate. Not talking about thin walls, like metal cladding.
Also, I think you should adjust the heavy jump height so that he can clamber up standard building floor heights without any assistance, as in, if there’s a hole in the floor a heavy can clamber up it with just a jump

[spiral comet]

Please allow us to copy contestant loadouts. Its a huge hassle having to edit each expression, gadget, and weapon to have the correct appearance and animations

[smoky gust]

the heavy hit or miss nature of blast off makes it feel really satisfying
it would be interesting to see an LTM that focuses specifically on weapons with a really slow rate of fire that pack a heavy punch
(any weapon with a mag size of 8 or lower, excluding melee, would fit imo)

[dusk solstice]

Fixx matchmaking

[halcyon patio]

I think the sniper needs a slight range buff (hitscan range from 40 to maybe 60meters). Its really not viable long range anymore you will most likely lose a standoff against the hitscan battle rifles. Its damage is in a competitive sweet spot so that needs no change. And no sniper is not op. Only people still playing it are the ones who are really good with it. I see newbies in power shift barely managing to get 2-3 kills with it meanwhile i get 15+ on a good day. Its just survivorship bias

[real ether]

Making the Blast Off Gamemode a 3v3 feels like a blunder

It is too many people to feel like you are in control and able to predict plays,
but too few as to where you can just let loose and enjoy the gameplay.

This would likely have worked better as a 1v1 or a 6v6, either make it very personal, or highly impersonal.

[thick magnet]

add zombie mode XD

[remote prism]

How about specialisation rework, medium turret, healing and dematerializer feel almost same as gadget, only wall hack that was removed was good for specialisation, heavy goo gun is a gadget too like rocket or anchor, think about it

[split ermine]

Id love to see an option to customize weapon position. I am a huge fan of centered weapons. and add option to mirror it to the left side for the leftys too. :D

[honest verge]

Goo gun feels inconsistent when hitting enemies I'm chasing. Goo will occasionally hit a player, slow them down, and then stick around rather than breaking.

I think it doesn't break when I graze a target rather than hit them with the full CC

[warm drift]

When will the spear get nerfed. It's broken in power shift. So unfair.

[sudden trout]

Yeah icl, I was disappointed by the fact it's only 3v3. It's a fast paced demolition thing. Plus if your team gets wiped you basically trickle back in and feed kills.

More of a personal thing but I also kinda think Horizon would be a better map for the 8-bit style of the mode.

[versed gull]

Dagger is OP, nerf dagger. Take it out of the game actually it's too good. There's a reason 90% of players in ranked use it, far too oppressive

Could we please nerf dagger a 12th time? It's completely necessary.

[broken crest]

BUFF MELE WEAPONSSS EMBARKKKKKKKKKKKL BUFF SWORDDDDDDDD

[pallid current]

Shak-50 Deals to much damage.
Cl-40 needs a damage reduction or a big Self damage increase

[jade cloak]

Leave us atleast one melee weapon after they butchered all my children!

[fierce skiff]

embark for the love of god buff akimbo .50 body damage, dont care if you remove the double headshot gimmick, lower it if nesassary but jesus christ its got to atleast 3 body shot a light

[edgy glen]

melee weapons are a very dominating class of weapons since they are so easy to use, its not that rare to do SUPER well in a lobby if you get a good match, but a few good games does not make viable.

These games are usually ones with only a few melee counters, not many dash lights/little teamplay/good cashouts/etc. When these things ARE in play, it often feels hopeless, theres very little counterplay against dash lights or having to play in open areas.

[sonic arrow]

"very little counterplay against dash lights" is what I would say if I sucked at the game ^

[opaque locust]

might be off topic from the nerf this or buff this posts, but how bout we get some finals branded ringtones? Could be End of round themes from previous seasons just slightly edited to fit the length of a ringtone. Just a thought.

[quick coyote]

Ringtones got to be the goofiest thing ive ever seen in this channel

[umbral lark]

embark hate LIGHT class, they nerf light and doing nothing with it, they love medium and heavy,they will feed low IQ ppl with easy game modes like now, and put propaganda for new players with new skins for granade launchers where u need half of hands to play with

[hazy skiff]

Horse

[verbal cairn]

this cl40 nerf does barely anything its too easy to hit for too much damage it should take skill to use it and not be a cheesy weapon. They should also take a book from arc raiders and matchmake based on group size because solo q vs a 3 stack is misserable. And do some more nerfs and buffs based on player feedback instead of raw data.

[little sigil]

I, too, would love an option to have the centered weapon position akin to DOOM

[scenic shale]

Please pleas please embark fix the clothing 🙏🙏🙏🙏

Like I’m playing and tell my why I see a super long outline of orange or pink and it’s this giant line coming out of them. It’s so disorienting and I don’t even know what clothing item it is because I’ve seen with multiple different ones, Im begging, it’s also bad for people that have it, like, I was on the other side of the doorframe and knew where the were because there was a giant line poking out of them, please fix this 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[feral shard]

Day 36 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)

It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes

It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex

Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it

(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)

@faint saddle true, I love you, make dagger great again

[brazen compass]

Blast Off is the most dogshit, absolute trash game mode of all time. Complete garbage. Throw that shit in the trash.

[remote loom]

I LOVE THE NEW BLAST OFF GAME MODE

[topaz pollen]

guys you should add a filter for the random skins, allowing you to exclude skins such as the free dye job skins

[lapis basin]

Sword needs 130-140 lunge and 75 damageu on regular attacks. How is a light melee supposed to even remotely compete against other lights even up close when they just get insta killed by SMG’s and most lights use dash further countering sword attacks. Melee has become nearly useless and it’s pitiful.

Revolver needs the same buff… 75 damage per shot. This is the only logical damage stack that makes sense. Hitting shots only to leave your enemy at 2HP by 74 damage weapons just feels ignorant and downright stupid on the math especially ever since healing has became so prominent for all classes.

Please never bring back protocol Xpose or any sort of wall hacks again. And if you do a 5-10 second timer is enough. 30 seconds is WAY WAY WAY overkill…. And further discourages players to use melee competitively because you are at massive disadvantage when the wall hacks are on.

[rigid shale]

i'm lv90 at diamond 3 in WT getting matched with a lv17 THEN A lv4 w/8 career wins. what is actually going on.

update: a level 13 teammate now. i'd rather wait longer for a match with similar experienced players than get matched quickly with beginners.

[sterile wharf]

I feel like it would benefit the practice range if on the outside area of the practice range (like the outdoorsy looking thing) embark could add a terminal similar to the one at the place where you do challenges but in this terminal you can pick different environments (like the environments in kyoto and other maps), game events (like meteor shower, low gravity, etc.), and times of day or weather (like night, day, noon, rain, dust storm from vegas) and this could help people get even better practice in dealing with the multiple different environments of THE FINALS.

[errant crater]

NERF AIM ASSIST

or

LOWER TTK

also fix ur trsh audio

[frail spoke]

Balance? ^^

[gentle timber]

Well... That was fast

[slender girder]

Aim assist is already weak in this game. Don't suggest stuff that is sure to kill the game since it needs console casuals as well to survive.

[austere vector]

New game mode is beyond bad. Ltms used to be fun and exciting when they came out , now it feels like you guys aren’t even trying people already hate the cl-40 now you make a whole game out of it… crazy

[torpid kindle]

make cl40 100% accurate all the time and give it 118dmg on directs (so 3 shots hebies like sniper) but lower splash both radius and damage. i don't think we necessarily need a max dmg radius for splash ngl, linear falloff if adjusted correctly and with the proposed buff to directs would be healthy imo
and reduce visual and audio clutter on it, as well as making it so the damage indicator shows where the shooter is/was when they shot the nade, not the center of the explosion radius of the nade that hit you

[worldly pumice]

New game mode is beyond fun. Ltms used to be boring and soulless when they came out , now it feels like you guys are stepping it up people may hate the cl-40 but now you made a fun game out of it... insane

[quick dew]

day 1 of asking for engimo embroidered hoodie on the merch store

[sharp pumice]

add aim assist to keyboard and mouse

[fiery solar]

Wonder when the hell anyone at Embark will consider actually adding barebones matchmaking to the game to separate solo queues vs groups. Been months with this bullshit. New gamemode is fun but it is ABSOLUTELY fucking devastated by groups queuing up and solos having to deal with that shit.

[vagrant creek]

1.) Add the ability for us to use our VR's to gift new players weapons they don't own, we need more options to spend our credits cause they just sit at 5000 once you've unlocked everything.... 2.) Add more interesting challenges for daily's similar to the contracts but maybe make them daily challenges?? Also please god more than just 2 a day yeah? 3.) Make it possible to gift the ultimate battle pass to friends, I don't know if not having a gift option for it is an oversight or what. 4.) Give a small special keychain for players who made it to the top 10 in their respective leaderboard to make them stand out a bit more. (( selfish request lol )) 5.) Would be nice if quick cash would mirror WT more by having 4 teams and have the team with the most cash win rather than being a half hearted copy. --- I'll think of more but please add these.

[shrewd echo]

Grandpa here, I remember when I had to use a 56.6k modem to connect to the internet, a relic lost to time, when the internet had a voice. Playing Counter Strike 1.4 or 1.5 on 56.6k, kids these days don't know what real warfare in lag was or is, losing to more advanced DSL players all the time. Ahhhhhh yes, 1997. BOOM HEADSHOT

[patent mural]

theres 4 items in the game with long enough names to have this issue, why not downscale the text a bit for it to fit? making it go from left to right, then fade away looks odd, especially because like 30% of the time the text is being faded out and cant be read properly.
This doesnt happen in the loadout screen, it just happens in the equipment screen

by the way, as Kelvier suggested: the ability for us to use our VR's to gift new players weapons they don't own sounds great!

[odd sedge]

America shorts are cool and all that but who do i have to beg to get some Canada short shorts?

[fleet bolt]

Ranked, world tour are worst modes in a game. Everytime i play it, i just stay idle on one of cashouts. Isnt it supposed to be conecntrated top of the skill showcase?

[digital yoke]

DAYUM i hope at the end of "Blast Off!" CL-40 will be NERFED to the freakin ground like u did with SLEDGE after "Heavy Hitters"

Dmg per shot will be 50 and blast radius of 1 cm (little nerf)
And all our money that we spent for event skins will be send directly to trash bucket where all melee and pump-action weapons are located at the moment(still able to compete in the current meta not gonna lie frfr 🤓 )

There must be something at the end. The most diabolical message u can ever imagine. Something like this:

*Dev Note: CL-40 has gradually become one of the most effective weapons in the game across World Tour, Quick Cash, Ranked and Power Shift, both in win rates but also efficacy metrics such as eliminations and damage done per round, to the point that it’s essentially now a top three overall weapon. This has occurred at almost all skill tiers as well. This growth in effectiveness has also come with increased rates of negative sentiment from players on the receiving end of the CL-40, who feel they can never compete against it at any range where boom-shell could hits. It has also led to the CL-40 having win rates far above the target level for a balanced item. *

(Tell me, when you insert the word "cl-40" instead of the word "sledge" into the funeral patch note for a sledgehammer, does it sound really Believable, unlike the original?)

The question is rhetorical by the way

[wispy ivy]

bro what were you shooting him from 40 meters away

[obsidian ginkgo]

Ranked now just a joke, you constantly met ruby in gold lobby, cmon devs make something, why u let ruby play against gold 🤡

[ripe seal]

MAKE SOLO BANK IT PERMANENT

[green cliff]

first win of the day is a horrible pick for a daily. Doing daily tasks shouldn't be dependent on the performance of others.

[empty junco]

NERF CL40 TO THE GROUNDDD. Its not fun to be killed by this cheesy non skill weapon. I outplay them and still lose cause they react and the spalsh damage dors more damage by time than me hitting all my shots.
Also SOLO Q is just not fun. First round while SoloQ i go up against all 3 stacks meta teams
Finnaly get rid of Cloak

[raven garnet]

cloaking needs to leave the game. just have vanish bombs. why should they have the ability to cloak twice over

[rustic tinsel]

Revert melee nerfs. Especially sword and sledgehammer. They were fine. Actually, it was only used by those who knew how to use it. All melee weapons needed their pre-nerf stats, and that’s why they were originally set that way.

Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability and viability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Sword was built around close-range and Light’s low hp. it required specific dmg combinations for each classes.so lunge was 140 dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + m1 + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + m1.
This is the most ideal.

You must stop listening to nerf whiners.There’s no end to the nerf whiners’ whining. When something they wanted nerfed without any real balance reason gets nerfed(dislike cause skill issue),they just move on to whine about the next thing.

[coral seal]

Embark, if anyone in ur team actually tortures themselves with reading the game feedback here i want to say im a bit dissapointed. The last 7.3 update let me and probably many other players a bit down. Since the start of the season the servers have been in not the greatest condidtion, things like lag and ping spikes are far more frequent than before. Me and many others also hoped for some good balance changes. Melee weapons are as bad as ever, both medium shotguns are also not in a good spot anymore and medium weapons as a whole apart from the 3 best meta picks feel watered down. You introduced the ultimate battle pass this season and more skins of the "legendary" rarity have released so ur probably not short when it comes to finances. Using this money to make the servers better and optimize the game more would be appreciated by me and probably everyone else. More frequent balance changes are also really needed.

[wanton wagon]

did the buffs help it so much ?

[outer sphinx]

Remove the retro-vision for Blast off! or allow in accessibility to toggle it to help those who struggle with motion sickness.

[keen lily]

solo queue ranked is unplayable, stop giving me teammates with 4k less rank and over 3k wins less, what is the point? you'll never increase the player count if you need a 3 stack to play the game at all

[sterile patrol]

It's far from Q3 or Q2 experience.. we need rocket launchers and railguns, not a GL and low gravity... Embark wanted to deliver an unreal tournament vibe but they missed by a mile.. Devs stop encouraging noobs spamming GL, that weapon is oppressive and requires no skill.. after you nerfed all shotguns and melee weapons, GL became a new shotgun. S7 sucks and I will be back in S8 to see if anything got fixed(gun balance, server issues), until then I will play games that are fun and running smooth. I have 1300hours in your game I played since OB, every new update feels worse and worse, nerfs kills fun, and server issues plus game optimization makes me wonder if u guys care about your game anymore. I'm not going to play and I'm not going to spend any money.

[river heath]

okay so yk how when u throw a flashbang, ur character says "flashy flashy".

We need a voiceline for when u pick up the cash box saying "cashy cashy".

Absolute cinema.

[wild ibex]

Stop cooking bro 🔥

[vivid seal]

"dashy dashy"
"bashy bashy" (sledge)

[fleet socket]

"Staby staby" (dagger)

[velvet burrow]

roasty roasty (flamethrower)

[signal basin]

No buff on Light for DPS. Only a nerf for a heal that will be useless now and CL40 still spamming in everygame. Great.

3 more weeks to wait now

[dry wraith]

The new winning sequence seems very slow and takes too long

[uncut hedge]

To get ruby stuff i have to reach ruby at least once or end the season on the top 500?

[sudden spire]

Remove input buffering for shooting and mantling

[sudden lake]

Embark I humbly request you allow your players to trade in VRs for Show Tokens. 🙏

[spare ravine]

fix dagger no reg

[honest verge]

The new map has some awful spawns. Getting shot at after spawning is brutal. Especially running the sledge with the cashout being a jump pad away.

[sly sphinx]

Yoy already buy the battlepass for vrs, at that rate they should just give you the entire contents of the pass instantly

[tribal spoke]

Make the dual blades deal 63/63 DMG on all attacks please

[knotty harbor]

I think the practice range should have a glass door. So friends can watch you in the shooting gallery

[wispy cave]

wow you played a world tour and fought the slobbering idiots that infest that gamemode, nice!

[plush fjord]

nah lol right in front of him he was the last person on his team (WT) and so was I. Other teams were at the other vaults.

Model damage is extremely low, and it gets worse cuz of its low fire rate. It was 100 percent gutted since its nerf and should be buffed again (not as much as pre-nerf) to make it viable again fgs

[craggy bluff]

The days when lights crying about cl-40

[chilly notch]

Let us use emotes in the lobby

[gritty turtle]

Let us use emotes in the lobby

[cyan cairn]

Let us use emotes in the lobby

[limpid arrow]

Let us use emotes in the lobby

[upper vortex]

your aim must be terrible if you want to buff the class that already has the highest dps in the game + easy to use guns
light is the only class I can drop 20-40 kills with regularly in TDM

[surreal brook]

the comb ruining the fun since beta

[dry kiln]

You must be new lol

[worldly scaffold]

Lost another tournament to the cashout alarm not working in time, no-one in my team react to it, and it was taken in like three seconds, you gotta fix that.

[wooden shuttle]

ADD brass knuckles as a heavy weapon wouold be so sick

[granite latch]

They should refund a portion of the legacy pass back if getting show tokens is this difficult and sparse. Almost done with regular bp but legacy barely even halfway

[daring fossil]

This has literally been a problem since beta, it's been reported probably a hundred times, it's never going to get fixed, just like not being able to shoot or do anything is never going to be fixed, it happened with me with the double-barrel the other day where I couldn't shoot or even switch weapons, all I could do was die and they supposedly have a new system in place that's supposed to stop this from happening. Same with continuing to get shot 2 full seconds after running behind a wall, or melee players seemingly killing you with melee from 10+ feet away. Or people able to spin 180 degrees and kill you before they even appear to turn around on your screen. Or how the timer at the end of the match ends with 4 seconds remaining (something I have reported half a dozen times since launch and still hasn't been fixed, at one point they just removed the crowd counting down so you didn't notice)

@sudden trout they disabled it for full auto weapons they said. I don't even know if it's been implemented for all guns

[quartz dirge]

let us view the progress to the next tier of player card badge

[sudden trout]

They introduced the thing to fix it but they've had to temporarily disable it because it was causing other issues. Should be back at some point in the next patch or two I reckon.

@daring fossil ah cool, thx for clarifying

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the first swing damage in the combo from 65 to 70 making it 70, 80, 90 and increase the spin attack damage to 120

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either give it a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block all melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it's bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

these emojis will highlight the message so anyone at embark can see them 🥇:🤠🤯😵:⚽️:grinning:😆🙃😇🫠

[harsh oak]

Real question? Why does the class with the most health have the highest dps weapons? Plus the best gadgets in the game? Just because they have 0 movement isn’t an answer.

@worldly thunder Ive played every class…. Light might have good dps but whats the point if 150hp. My point is that dps on par with light shouldn’t be coupled with the best gadgets and 350 hp…

@void badge ever use deagles? Ever use shak? Ever use lewis gun? Ever use m60? Ever use sa12? Im def not tweaking. Having some of the best gadgets and guns, 350hp is crutch asl and anyone who says differently is clearly

[worldly thunder]

the class with the most DPS in the game is Light ; I urge you to try out Light and Heavy weapons in training mode and see for yourself

[honest elk]

add the number 00 for contestant plzzzzzzz

[plain palm]

if i posted good stats in anything except diamond tier ranked you guys would find a way to cry and make it seem like any random can do this good consistently, my point was that swords are actually decently viable not that im the best player

[void badge]

no way u think heavy has the highest DPS weapons brother u are tweaking 💀 🥀

[hazy skiff]

Horse

[oblique salmon]

It kicked me for "disallowed modification" but I dont have any

[slender pine]

cl self damage still isnt enough

[sly ore]

I feel the legacy battle pass system is pretty weird. It already takes ages to get points for the old BPs, but making it so I could not even get credit for a long match is total BS

[drifting topaz]

Bros getting destroyed by roller players and complaining abt a weak AA 💀 this is not apex or cod where the AA is broken buddy, just get good on mnk. You should be ashamed to be crying cuz of that fr

[tender sail]

The lockbolt needs both a time and health nerf, badly.

[wind flame]

last update was the best update in the history of this game. Anti-cheat updates are being felt, and appreciated. Thanks Embark. Lova ya

[undone dagger]

The crane doesn't do damage to buildings with the new system, is it not applied to cranes yet?

[leaden tangle]

There's something about this screen Embark needs to improve in teams introducing. I love these vs screen and I think would be good with every contestant animation and skin. Also, thanks Embark for that new win animation

[short fern]

More damn loadout slots, goddamn it

[daring furnace]

Guys, Help.
Yesterday I downloaded the game and when I opened it everything was fine. But today I wanted to play some games and with the first launch I've got a strange things. Like my lobby is blurred and on the right side is a message "text block", also in the settings if I want to leave, everytime I get a window with following message:
"A required input Interact and equip weapon is missing a binding. This base interaction is required to play The FINALS"I can't do anything. I even reinstalled the game and it didn't help. What do I do? I play on PS5 Slim

[raw harness]

i've already open a ticket but since the update yesterday the game for me is laggy, keep saying network connection problem in game but i have checked multiple time my internet connection and all was fine

[faint saddle]

Mfers when they tell me their sword or sledge got gutted when I show them dagger changes; (not saying sledge or sword should have gotten nerfed but omfg)

Backstab damage reduced from 350 to 320

Multihit removed

Backstab windup increased from 500ms to 800ms

Sprinting disabled during backstab windup

Movement heavily slowed while charging backstab

Removed tap-to-release, now hold-only to backstab

Attack undercharges when released early

Backstab angle reduced from 180° to 150°

Cannot melee through Goo anymore

Cannot backstab turrets or Goo anymore
Must use primary attacks on turrets and Goo

Can melee trough dome/mesh if not clipping enemy model

Over 8 different dagger game breaking bugs making the weapon feel awfull and making it unusable for weeks untill the bug got fixed
https://tenor.com/view/emo-gun-shooting-gun-shooting-kid-gif-1405619412372921898

[viscid raft]

let people disable the filter for blast off, I can't play the mode for more than 5 minutes without getting a headache

[sonic arrow]

Remove the smoke coming out of guns, or at least give us an option to turn it off, it obscures vision for no reason, especially on guns like the repeater

[broken crest]

DEAR EMBARK TEAM
DEAR EMBARK TEAM
I have one thing to say and that is that you should buff mele weapons like sword hammer and dagger but why are you nerfing them at all I haven't seen anyone complaining in the community except (appoh) so I ask you if you don't want to lose players to buff them in the next update thanks
EMBARKKK TEAMMMMMM HEAARRRRTT USSSSSS

[edgy glen]

Please make locked cosmetics from legacy battle passes appear on the loadout screen like it shows the current passes ones

[iron jetty]

bring the finals to mac

[errant rune]

When in the he!! are you going to hire normal people to work???? when embark??? do you still have to do all kinds of shitty events💩 ??? do you still hear that people are asking you to do something so you can change the contracts that you don't want to do?? or is it indifferent to all of you??

[potent pawn]

Reduce fall damage

[wispy ivy]

the model takes 4 shots to kill a heavy, youre just missing if it somehow took 6 shots and more than 7 seconds

[olive kelp]

Took notice to the new song transitions you guys put in with Blast Off!
Gotta say, I really appreciate it, I've been doing song transitions myself in recordings, but with this it'll be epic transitions every time!!

[wary flax]

Nerf double barrel, buff hipfire aim assist, add Xbox and PS5 crossplay lobbies without PC, add stricter SBMM (no Ruby full teams in solo queue Gold ranked), fix spawns (spawns have always been extremely bad in this game, fix them already)

[split mist]

Delete the fucking granade launcher..

[cloud jungle]

This would be very cool for the final round

[floral shoal]

Real talk, Blast Off's version of TDM is exactly what TDM should feel like. Keep the regular 5v5, but just reduce it down to 1 round. I don't want to sit there and ponder over a 3 round game. Just give me a 10 minute, 75 kill single round.

[finite surge]

@near cosmos can we get the acog on the ak and scar?

[tacit whale]

Add all the LTMs to private matchmaking or better yet let us build our own modes and share them

[agile ivy]

I don't like having daily contracts for events such as blast off; I'm not personally very keen on the gimmicky events. Having their own sets of contracts as an extra is fine, but I feel like it eats into my battlepass progression that I would ordinarily be able to complete without going out of my way to play event modes.

[untold venture]

give us the option to click on peoples steam profiles after a match so i can say GG in their profile comments (im a very nice person like that)

[dry kiln]

The recent nerf to Cloak feels far too excessive, especially considering how easy it already is to track cloaked players. At around 20 meters, visibility remains high enough that the "invisibility" is practically meaningless—players can still be seen and followed with minimal effort. Cloak should offer a real tactical advantage, but in its current state, it barely functions as intended. The new “hide-and-seek” playstyle suggested in the patch notes simply doesn’t work in practice, because the fundamental issue poor visual concealment still hasn’t been addressed. Instead of empowering stealth-based gameplay, this nerf further punishes those who try to play smart and sneaky, without fixing the core problem.

[nocturne badger]

imagine a new player starting playing from the new limited time event and everything is pixelated, i would uninstall after 2 minutes

[raven garnet]

Get a damn solo Q option going for ranked and WT. not everyone has the sweat unemployed stacks to play with. nor do people wanna play against it. you constantly throw low levels into them and think that's helping the newer players stay and play. if you want to stack with the sweatiest friends you have. then that means you love competition and should be put accordingly against competition. and if they complain about it just shows they are toxic cause they get enjoyment from stacking and destroying lvl 20's and that's all they good for. match making or solo q options. pick one

[hidden locust]

Add a spectator option after ruin in world tour and ranked where we can see the number of spectators like Fortnite so it adds onto it being a gameshow

[true field]

When the losing team has reached overtime and is on the platform, the game should only end, once the other team took full controll over the platform. This is sincere feedback and would like to get this patched ASAP.

[dry urchin]

buff spawn logic, my team spawns 220 m away from the last cashout

[onyx wing]

I don’t see a lot of people saying this and I forget this from time to time but when you team wipe can you please go through walls, there’s no reason for the walls to just block you

[hallow canopy]

give Medium a sniper rifle that 1 or 2 shots everything for heavy which it 3 shots. It should have a long reload speed of 2 seconds every shot and do 149 body shot. And 249 headshot dmg. It should not turn into a projectile because of range.

[icy marsh]

Found a fun new bug where the lock bolt is invisible….. just randomly stuck down. No sound. No fx. Just stuck like how it is when ur locked - with no sound or visual que. super fun one

Impressive rlly u managed to get this one in here…

[round hornet]

Add fall damage

[remote loom]

LTM where you can use any specialization/gadgets you want

[daring fossil]

can we get some sort of match making in quick play modes, when I'm consistently the only one or one of 2 people on my team with positive scores while everyone else has 0-2 kills and the entire other team has positive scores, there's a problem. I get it, nobody plays this game and the people who do are spread thin over 10 different modes (3 different verions of cashout included), I already have to wait 3-5 minutes during prime gaming hours on a friday to find a death match with crossplay off, but if I have to wait another 5 minutes just to give me some hope that I'm not going to waste the next 20 minutes of my life I'd take it.

[sharp current]

obliterate those light dash monkeys, they just push you and dash 4 times somehow in front of you, even the best kovaaks aimer can't do anything against them, let alone facing a controller that keeps tracking mid-dash, there is no match against them unless you winch them, but that's only a heavy privilege

[dawn valley]

Hello, I only play about 8 hours per week. As a result, I am constantly going 2-8 against rubies and diamonds in world tour. This is not fun, but the only method of earning currency. I feel conflicted... I want to support the devs and supplement with earned multibucks, but I literally hate my life playing world tour because no matter how many times I am stomped, it never gets easier.

[wraith summit]

for christ's sake, I know this is a limited time gamemode, but PLEASE give us the option to remove the filter. And for the main game, give us the option to remove the bloom. I know you can because I use UE and it can easily be turned off in the post processing volume with the flick of a switch.

[molten jackal]

Buff needed on the lockbolt. To easy to destroy once deployed, it's useless. It needs the same health as a turret or a health pod at least.

[tropic wasp]

Make HUD more customizable. Simple just turning it off is lame

[fierce skiff]

new ltm got the worst possible hit boxes, am going against the hall of fame of cl 40 users supposely how in the fuck am i getting hit mid air every god damn time, this mode is so shit.

[sonic spoke]

Hammer overhead didn't take it out. It is pretty beefy.

[coarse dew]

remove movement penalty on dagger backstab charge or significantly reduce it

[unkempt bridge]

At the very least only apply it once its fully charged. Also, angle nerf was unnecessary, its just jank netcode (which needs worked on). "Facestabs" are the getting shot around corners equivalent. I kinda get why the dps is relatively low because of the backstab potential, but is borderline impossible to back stab a good light and they out dps you with literally every weapon if you dont somehow manage to get a backstab, in fact every weapon in the game does pretty much, even with the backstab the charge time is longer than the ttk of literally any gun. Also pretty pretty please give me back turret backstab, it was a unique utility that dagger had that I really dont think was that op

[simple ether]

The amount of kids using "sOfT cHeAtS" in this game is staggering. Its ruining the game.

[errant crater]

it’s weak on pc roller but it’s strong on console roller

it’s also bugged for most people. i know how to unbug it and make it stronger but this game doesn’t need more crutches

[spice zenith]

This LTM is annoying and only reason I'm playing it is because of the daily. The visual effects should be able to be turned off, feels bad to aim

[wet herald]

Awful take

[lapis basin]

We need whole lobby chat.. good ole’ competitive trash talk would be next level.

Also Melee needs buffed BADLY. Sword and dagger specifically

[hoary steeple]

better than whole lobby chat, they actually add a waiting lobby where all the players can roam with what will eventually be their enemies

[icy shuttle]

Lockbolts need less HP

Why even make them breakable if lights have little chance of breaking out of them unless they waste a whole magazine (Idk how it is for medium but I wouldnt be surprised if it isnt similar)

I do like the lockbolt concept, but it shouldn't take this long to break it

Maybe make it a system like ziplines where you quick melee it like 3 times instead of 2, or just reduce its health by 25-50%

[sonic arrow]

Make winch break if LoS is lost or the winched player comes into contact with a wall. Im tired of getting pulled through walls

[proper chasm]

can we please get propper Ultra wide screen support so I can have my hud at 16:9? my whole UI is 50cm away from my face to the left and right. I never know how much health I have

[sonic arrow]

Make melee viable again

[gritty turtle]

Mgl rework or buff when 🥹 if no rework pls make it do less self damage 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

[hazy skiff]

Horse gun

[ashen bloom]

they should add horses to the game

[ruby dew]

MAKE MELE GREAT AGAIN!!!

BUFF SWORD!!!!!

#SaveMele

[odd sparrow]

MAKE MELEE GREAT AGAIN!

[dreamy marlin]

Day 2 of asking embark to please let us use the reserve in ranked :c, it would mitigate the frustration a lot of people have with certain weapons with out the need of nerfing them, it would allow for niche and fun loadouts to be more present in ranked, for that same reason more people would be willing to try new weapons in a serious matter, for example if you've been practicing with the R357 but still feel insecure about your ability to use it effectively you could just bring it and if you don't feel you're ready then you could swap for a more familiar weapon, and I think it will improve the health of the game over all

[toxic sedge]

**buff the fucking melee weapons.

🔫**

[drifting topaz]

GIVE US SHAK ANIMATIONS!!!

[little gale]

Please allow us to use sounds from other gun skins on our skin of choice.

[tough basalt]

I have a new mechanic suggestion that'll make the dual blades even more cool (pun intended)
When someone attacks you with the flamethrower (or can be extended to any flame caused by pyro mines and stuff, but the core idea remains the same),
When you block and deflect the fire, your blades get heated up and turn orange/red and they deal bonus damage on the next strike you do, if they get Fully heated up, they deal 1.5-2x damage on only the next 1 hit they do then they go back to normal, the trade off being you can't block any flame damage but it'll give you a temporary buff if you hit your next strike.

This can be extended to teammates lighting you up on fire with flamethrower or pyro mines/nades to come up with interesting new strategies,
The core idea being you lose a portion of your health and gain a temporary damage buff but only for your next one strike.

[jagged vector]

This healing meta is bs, 2 mediums and a heavy all with heals is such a dumb concept, get rid of the heal ball or make it passive heals. And for the people that say oh just throw grenades at them and destroy the ball enlighten me on how you do that with 2 aps turrets. The developers listen to much to streamers and not the player base. Game barely makes it over 20,000 players on steam. I know it’s not all the players but it speaks volumes considering it makes a big chunk of you who play the game. This game is slowly dying and it’s sad to see

[waxen olive]

fr only medium needs heal not the other classes

[frozen tree]

Day 12: Oops this one’s a little late mb

Big wishlist:
Revert sword nerf (PLEASE give it 140 lunge damage, it needs it)
Revert dagger nerf (let it backstab turrets again, and increase the angle or make the charge faster)
Revert sledge nerf (at least the left click part), the range buff was nice but not what it needed
Also with the sledge buff, nerf winch! It’s the problem!
Give riot shield’s baton a wider hitbox, as right now it’s really janky to try and hit lights
Buff dual blades damage
Make breach drill faster and a maybe a bigger explosion
Bring back grenade grappling, and make it easier or reduce grapple cooldown
Make m11 a close range option, XP a mid range one, and ARN a longer range one. Same thing with AKM, FCAR, and famas, respectively
Spawns kinda suck right now, wiped teams spawn in front of people with the cashbox and block the cashout
Fix performance and freezing
Let us unlock the ultimate battlepass rewards as the $20 tier, and the 20 extra levels be part of the $30
There may be more, but this is what I think for now, and I’m open to suggestions and (constructive) criticism

[tranquil pagoda]

I am once again asking for color options for pistol sights, and really all sights. Being red/green colorblind, I am unable to distinguish the red dot sights from the background, and it seems unfair to not be able to use sights like everyone else can.

[thorny lynx]

Not sure if you are aware.... But every time EMBARK does an update it breaks/changes the game. Not in small ways.... this trash panda game is constantly breaking. This weapon system, no this system, no this nerf, no this nerf, hey lets give healing to everyone. Bring back season 1 and dont touch anything

[dark niche]

i kinda want the animated sponsor borders from s4 back..the ones w the logo look really bad imo

[loud hornet]

why does my task manager say that the finals is using 0% GPU and its running at a consistent 5FPS while my GPU is being maxxed out even though nothing is using it

[simple river]

dont force people to play a game mode revolving around the cl40 as a required daily contract

[limber sundial]

??? shits got more than both of the things you just mentioned... 300 hp... thats two lights of hp on a gadget that you can yeet from miles away and capture an entire team for like 8 seconds lol not to mention glitching it can just... extend the duration 🤡

[versed mountain]

It would be nice to have more in-depth personal Stats - Players can review their Kills and Deaths, but have to manually calculate K:D... Just an example. More Stats on the Stat Page would be awesome, especially for a Game going into E-Sports.

Also, why can't we review previous Match History? It's like the previous match never even happened - It would be nice to review performance for the previous 5-10 Matches. Additionally, being able to Replay (a recording of) the Match would be awesome for reviewing plays and improving coordination in Teams. i understand that something like this would come at a cost for Embark, so it may not be feasible at the moment; Something to consider tho!

[true harness]

Please bring quick chat back following deaths.death's. It's quite annoying not having it.

[pliant whale]

all the LTM has done is expose how buggy the hitboxes on explosive weapons are

[austere vector]

THERE IS A BUG WITH HEVAY WHERE YOU THROW YOUR SHEILD AND SWITCH BACK TO YOUR PRIMARY TO FAST AND IT CANCELS THE SHEILD COMPLETELY LEAVING YOU EXPOSED AND A FREE KILL PLEASE FIX THIS. BASICALLY YOU THINKL YOU HAVE A PROTECTIONN BUT NOPE

[livid cypress]

match making is so screwy with new players, I brought a bunch of new players in (two mediums, a heavy, and a light) and whenever I would que a match It would be unbelievably unfair to them (I'm level 70) they got stomped by a team of lights before they had even unlocked a new gun other than the default. IDK if this could be fixed without allowing smurfing in a way.

[onyx wing]

there is a bug with one of the skins that makes it very easy to see from your enemies pov im pretty sure is prominent on light but i cant remember exactly ill have to look tomorrow

[molten jackal]

New game mode,Blast Off, is hot garbage. It's not something I'd play regularly anyways, but I will say super annoying for it to be a daily challenge. HOT G.A.R.B.A.G.E.

Waste of time and energy.

[fleet quiver]

haven't said anything good in here for a while but the new winning animation is elite good job embark

[torn pulsar]

The new ltm is straight up ass.
Only cl user plays that gamemode it’s not fun getting instakilled every 2 seconds

[rugged ginkgo]

Kinda random request but can we get light sabor skins for melees. Not direct star wars light sabers but something similar. My friend refuses to play finals again until theres light saber skins lmao

[wide hazel]

VAULT M11 IT RUINS THE GAME

[daring harness]

So tired of these lights man

[rustic tinsel]

Revert melee nerfs. Especially sword and sledgehammer. They were fine. Actually, it was only used by those who knew how to use it. All melee weapons needed their pre-nerf stats, and that’s why they were originally set that way.

Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability and viability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Sword was built around close-range and Light’s low hp. it required specific dmg combinations for each classes.so lunge was 140 dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + m1 + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + m1.
This is the most ideal.

You must stop listening to nerf whiners.There’s no end to the nerf whiners’ whining. When something they wanted nerfed without any real balance reason gets nerfed(dislike cause skill issue),they just move on to whine about the next thing.

[crude salmon]

embark is way off touch with the balancing again, it just keeps getting worse and worse. it feels like they desperately want the game to feel like any other generic shooter. it seems like they are trying to change the game to attract people from other shooter games but the people that play those game arent going to move to the finals no matter what you do, all the changes are doing is driving away all the people who liked the game for what it was. they just keep nerfing anything unique while promoting this boring crazy tracking aimer game. the finals was the only game ive ever played where i could have fun using a melee weapon of all things against people with guns, funny gadget combos and most certainly i miss unique skill expression. the game is so boring now, any old aimlabs tryhard can demolish lobbies while the people who put real work into playing weird and crazy things that you could only ever do in this crazy game the finals are being punished over and over and over. the aimer gamers will get bored and they will move on to another boring fps to ruin and then your fanbase who loved the crazy unique things that no other game has are left stranded in whats left of the finals. im not tryinjg to be mean or angry or anything i love this game and embark has made something amazing here, the game is just so disappointing now, nothing is fun anymore honestly, the aimer gamer guns are mid, all of the unique guns are worse than the aimer guns still and then to top it off none of the melee is viable in the slightest. i just miss the finals

[torn canyon]

The current way of earning Show Tokens just doesn’t make sense. Anyone who’s played the game for more than a few hours is already stuck at the 5000 VR cap. Why not let us convert excess VR into Show Tokens — or at the very least, increase the number of ways we can earn them?

From my experience, there’s only a chance to get one Show Token per match — and it’s not even guaranteed. That’s unnecessarily frustrating for something we’re supposed to grind for.

And when it comes to the Legacy Battle Pass: we’re spending MB (which is real money) to unlock it. So why, after paying, are we still forced to grind for random token drops just to access the content we already bought?

This system feels needlessly restrictive and really needs to be improved ASAP.

[worldly pumice]

ive been fine with the show token drops so far. for me i get 1 per quickplay match unless i joined midround and 2-3 per wt/ranked match as long as i win the first knockout round. ive already had completed half of a battlepass and were not even halfway through the season yet.

i also dont really understand that argument that we spend real money (which is only half true, since you can get mb for free so f2p players have the chance to unlock it given theyve saved for multiple seasons) on the legacy passes when we already spend multibucks on current battlepasses that we also have to grind for. should we just get the entire pass immediately when other people grinded that entire season to unlock?

though i do agree that there should be an exchange of vr > show tokens, like 2500 vr per token or something like that. it doesnt really have a use after youve played the game for 20+ hours.

[slender cipher]

In terms of design, I will say the Synapse Coreframe outfit would have been better as part of the Face skin for The Devourer that way you could layer clothing over it. If its possible to request in the future for Synapse Coreframe and the Termiframe Chassis to have options to where you can wear clothes over them such as upper body and lower body, I'd love to see that become a feature.

I have so many outfit ideas that could work with them, but it would require that benefit of using it as an underlayer to clothes instead of a whole outfit which prevents clothing to be utilized with it.

[quick dew]

day 2 of asking for engimo embroidered hoodie on the merch store

[pure robin]

Ignore the in-game stats --I had left the game for a bit because they literally did not know how to play the game. Please stop letting anybody under lvl 30 play tournaments. I shouldn't have to be required to carry every time I solo queue. If they are at least lvl 30, I don't care if they are trash- at least I know that they know how to play the game

[ebon igloo]

balanced ranked system

[bronze pumice]

obvs ur cheating, its impossible to get that much in ranked

[thick sorrel]

I miss the no sights and weird visual recoil times. Anything goes and was fun. Now it's just beaming across the map...

[tawdry tree]

Please, don't put the "win ten times" in blast off during the second week, it's already hard enough to play the 20 games

[umbral pebble]

It‘s a fu**ing stupid idea to bring national flags into the game.

[vast magnet]

blast off fuckin sucks why is it filled with cheaters?

[placid rain]

Can y'all please add more video options? Like brightness adjustment, contrast and stuffs adjustments

[slender girder]

The biggest issue with the long grind is that there's no reason for people, especially casuals, to buy more than 1 of the legacy BP's.

So Embark loses money on it + that many casuals who bough them before knowing what a slow grind it is will feel fooled.

[unborn garnet]

Guys please
Server buff when
I'm dying over here

[reef vine]

Yo fix the Chinese hackers I pay money to not get sniped by a grande launcher halfway across the map

[potent solar]

friday hits the servers hard for me, Im US west/mtn west and get routed to aws in ashburn va. Today it made it feel like I was playing on a mushy fisher-price keyboard and mouse. Really think adding an additional 300ms for equip/unequip of weapons is a bad decision

regarding kernel anti cheat. honestly I trust embark not to add anything nefarious but I don't trust embarks qa process at all to prevent someone else from taking advantage of it. I understand you need it for local cheats but they are using hardware cheats on other devices + usb hosts. some of them are so good who knows they could become embark partners

[wraith orchid]

pls let us make a jukebox playlist where we can put every song in and out ourselves. tysm

[hollow kelp]

pls improve the movement accuracy for revolver

[honest elk]

plz add number 00 for contestant

[sterile canopy]

There are no cheats in existence (nor will there ever be) that can predict your own movement well enough to make that a serious possibility.

[terse jewel]

Winch needs aim assist on controller

[west glacier]

idk how to send pics in this channel but. the body paint from s7 battle pass called (NULL ADORNMENT) can it pls be seprated from the face paint?

[steady spindle]

what is this event?? I always get queued against ppl with 10+ kills while my mates have 2-5

[wraith igloo]

Especially US flag rn, what are they thinking.

[edgy glen]

TF2 has a lot of those and they're as impressive as they are sad to use

Most projectiles in the finals are so fast that I dont think those kinds of cheats would even be that bad to make for this.

[plush fjord]

General Feedback:

• CL40 is balanced now
• New Blast Off LTM is fun asf, different from others because it takes less brainpower so more fun. Altho not every LTM has to be like this.
• Servers and bugs and hit reg needs to be fixed
• Dagger, MGL, Model need a buff.
• Sledge and sword need reverts
• Goo plane and stuff should be brought back
• Let us convert excess VRS to fans
• We are in desperate need of new events and map variants. They should be priority
• Meteor showers needs buff, stronger impact explosions, more meteors, meteors should topple buildings, etc.
• Alien invasion should lift entire buildings upwards, crumbling them in the process. Not just pieces of broken walls or something. And theyre lasers should be more powerful
• Retro Invasion should fire bombs that have a fuse, directly at players after targeting them for a bit
• Longer game event times
• There should be a rotation for the gamemodes TA, Bank It and TDM. Two of them at a time, change after every two weeks or something. Powershift and the other modes should stay permenantly.

[cyan sable]

The model 1887 is a devestating close to mid range weapon, being able to two tap lights with ease and 3 tap mediums within 15 metres.
Whilst it doesn't have the one shot on lights like the cerberus does, 108 damage can be done pretty consistently within 10 metres if you aim centre mass.

[worldly pumice]

is that not the issue for the current time gated bp's? how come its an issue if the permanent legacy bp takes a whole season to grind to completion (which isnt even necessary to complete) vs the time gated current bp that has virtually the same grind, with the downside of not being able to choose the items you want for less of a grind?

it doesnt make sense at all that you think casuals have no reason to buy it when its a permanent thing that carries between seasons that you dont need to finish and allows previous bp owners who didnt end up finishing the bp to grab what they missed out on from the previous seasons.
this isnt even a thing for embark to be 'losing' so much money on as theyre just reselling previous content.

its a battlepass, you still expect to grind for those, right?

[tall zephyr]

can we have playable queues in world tour? why am I getting ruby enemies everytime.

[violet elbow]

💀

[night spindle]

that vrs to fans is so real 🙏

[vocal nimbus]

I hate blast off. The filter sucks ass, it doesn't feel or look like a classic game from the 2000s, it just has the look of an improperly rendered game

[heady quail]

Do something about flamethrower. Literally anything. The pick rate is too high for such a gimmicky weapon. It is not fun to verse

[dense agate]

This game has been the most unfun experience in the cashout space ever, Quick Cash is horrible for many I've seen, but my issue is in Ranked and World Tour. There is absolutely no single justification in the world that could dictate why every single match i've decided to play in the last 3 days (consistently) that I've played at the very least 1 ruby player, not only that, 4 matches in the past 24 hours that have been against GraduatingTTV and Lamp with either normalize or someone else. It is absolutely unbelieveable the state match making is in when I have only even hit PLATINUM rank twice in 3 seasons. Hitting diamond ages ago can not POSSIBLY dictate that I play against the absolute highest level of players just to get sh*t on and washed and lose ELO while just entertaining these high level players running around in the lobby for the most unfun experience in gaming. I think it's insanely hilarious how we also diluted back to the pike meta once again, showing that the damage nerf was completely blind sided toward the actual issue for the gun which was how fast it could shoot. This has not only been the only reason I have not touched ranked in ages but not only that, a **static ** RS gaining seeding system in ranked with a mode where anything can happen at any time??? Who MAKES something like that? The team in last place can get the steal off with 1 second left and you lost 1k elo because "oh well too bad" When your opponents are literally top 500 global even IF you played consistently well for the whole time in that round, a significant amount of effort meaning nothing because of a single second of grief to restrict all of your progress and completely destroy your morale, god forbid you're solo queuing. I have 0 problem fighting good players, but when the players also have to be the literal best in the world and im not even in the space between diamond and them, its silly as f*ck. What sucks even more is that people like me will keep playing, and devs like you will never ever fix this system until it starts biting into your profits, and that self awareness kills me inside as edgy as that sounds for an unhealthy gaming addict like me. ALSO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD INCREASE THE TICKRATE FOR PLAYER MOVEMENT I SHOULD NOT BE DYING BEHIND WALLS IN SEASON 7. hopefully someone important sees this and understands.

[broken crest]

DEAR EMBARK TEAM
DEAR EMBARK TEAM
I have one thing to say and that is that you should buff mele weapons like sword hammer and dagger but why are you nerfing them at all I haven't seen anyone complaining in the community except (appoh) so I ask you if you don't want to lose players to buff them in the next update thanks

[thick oasis]

is it possible to be able to practise in queue?? example of this is like overwatch and how they do it. especially for long que times like here in Oceania where no one plays world tour and queue times exceed like 5 mins

[languid perch]

I feel as though both Goo and the flamethrower have a little too much good and not enough negative. Good is basicly infinite and doesn’t seem fair as it’s being abused to lock people in place and just as a troll. Flamethrower could use a bit of a range nerf as its reach just seems a bit much for any class to counter. I understand that it’s also skill but even still atleast give goo mag based cool down

[neat yoke]

riot shield beats a flamethrower btw

[pure obsidian]

Stop making this game a gun fight focused. And make gadgets actually give value from gun fights

Give some love to interesting weapons like all melee weapons, unconventional ranged weapons. And simply buff gadgets, I hate seeing that 60% of the gadgets are very situational that practically stay useless in general.

[subtle oak]

Will the pike ever get nerfed to 49 damage? 50 damage is outrageous. It was bad with LH1, same problem with pike.

[thick sorrel]

Clearly embark sucks in balancing going back and forth. Same with CL-40 annoying two Season starts and guess what. No new players kept playing.

Seems like your Lead Game Designer is killing The Finals like Dirty Bomb and Brink. RIP.

[ionic viper]

new win animation goes unbelievably hard
also lower visual recoil on the looking glass and reflector sights for the famas, im tired of using red dot/holo 😭

[slender girder]

Dude, it takes alot longer to grind the legacy BP's. Like 400-500 QP games, while a normal BP takes less than 200.

So yes, Embark lose money this way since many (most?) casuals won't even pay for and grind more than 1 before they quit the game.

For me personally it doesn't matter since I bought the only one I want and am in no rush. I just don't think it's a smart system and that the ones defending it mostly aren't newer players. Wonder why.... and if they are the ones that should offer an opinion about how it's set up to begin with.

[smoky gust]

please make 5v5 cashout a thing
the constant 3rd parties punishing you for doing the objective, and sometimes even making you worse off for playing well feels bad

[night bough]

I really don't know why I'm writing this as the devs are obviously not reading any of this.

I'm absolutely devastated by this matchmaking. It's far too random. I play against noobs and the game after I play agaisnt 5 Diamonds/Rubies. Why does this have to be ? It's unplayable. Not based on performance but DEEPLY FRUSTRATING.

[untold hazel]

lowk how did the lvl 5 done better than you

[vocal wave]

i hope the centered viewmodel is permanent

[supple mortar]

Please revert sword. This thing is only usable if you have a teammate alive. It's literally just a kill steal weapon, you can't do anything alone unless you are playing quick cash (casual)

[terse oxide]

Agreed. And fixes to it should apply to all game modes and not just ranked. Keep the no life sweats in their own pool so the rest of us can enjoy the game

[glacial compass]

agreed

[signal basin]

Lol. Stay in tdm so. Thanks

[rotund rapids]

Can we fix hook positioning, hooking shit behind you is not fun

[sullen girder]

Ranked:

I really don't understand how is last cashout different so it has more moeny!

Sometimes the team wins 2 cashouts but still gets knocked because some lucky team got a last second cashout.

Its better to make each cashout has phases, money splitted each phase,

Also why not try an ongoing cashout system, like it keeps cashing money and rate increases?
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Team member disconnection:

No one can win anything with 2 members in ranked, so all team members gets punished if any of them leave, how is this just?

[nova mica]

Why don’t you run goo flame in ranked and lmk how far you get lmfao. Both are so far from being viable meta it’s not even funny.

You’re suffering from what we call a “skill issue”

[celest pike]

Adding this would greatly improve the game

[tepid ether]

Please add: Last seen online in CLUB

[naive seal]

Add Nozomi Citadel and Fortune Stadium to Terminal Attack and Power Shift

[north eagle]

can there be a way to solo queue? i want to do stupid things sometimes, but my teammates usually don't like it. if i could solo queue, then i could goof off, and my would-be teammates can fulfill their competitive dreams

[round isle]

The lack of game chat is preposterous

[daring furnace]

Guys, Help.
Yesterday I downloaded the game and when I opened it everything was fine. But today I wanted to play some games and with the first launch I've got a strange things. Like my lobby is blurred and on the right side is a message "text block", also in the settings if I want to leave, everytime I get a window with following message:
"A required input Interact and equip weapon is missing a binding. This base interaction is required to play The FINALS"I can't do anything. I even reinstalled the game and it didn't help. What do I do? I play on PS5 Slim.

[torn dagger]

can someone explain to me pls for what you earn show tokens? had matches where I had 1 kill and say 8 deaths and did basically nothing except die and got one and had matches where I was 10 kills and maybe 1 death with a lot of combat score and support score and got none... what is the trigger for getting them ? also, can you get more than 1 / match ?

[magic wing]

Blast Off is hands down the best LTM you guys have ever made. I cannot even begin to express how good this feels and how fun it is. Hats off to the team, this was a slam dunk

[high linden]

helloo, why arey ou?

[harsh cliff]

Ranked is just unplayable, it's so stupid how many points you lose when don't qualify at the first round. It take me almost 40 mins to win one match and get like 1500 then lose in 5 mins and lose 1100, it's ridiculous

[worldly pumice]

dude, it's not like you're forced to complete the entire legacy battlepass when you can just get the stuff you want from it and move on. at least once you purchase it, you're not time gated and forced into grinding the game for show tokens. all the while you passively gain tokens and claim rewards you missed out on as you play the game across multiple seasons, wouldn't you say that's a fair trade off? its only just cosmetics too so like whats the big deal?

like i have said embark isnt "losing" any money by rereleasing things that they had already made. its a moot point given how minor it is to be just making simple ui work and implementation of the new currency in comparison to actually modeling and/or animating in new content. they had already made their money from it, and you thinking for the company in terms of sales is just a silly point to bring up as you're making judgements based on your feelings and not any relevant data.

if the casuals really cared enough about it, thered be a lot more people speaking up about it, but its just you who is apparently speaking on behalf of them. you may have gripes about the system, but im sure they can voice their own opinions regardless of how worried you are for them. either way, its still a beneficial system for everyone who wants it.

[limber verge]

Sal Scoria please give me my brain stem back I didn’t mean it

[quartz folio]

Kinda funny seeing people say nerf winch but why not nerf dashes. You literally cannot attack players while winching but you can attack while dashing

[raven garnet]

I think if you keep giving stacks the easiest fuckin matches ever. maybe once the solo players can get put into a easy match. this season has been nothing but a sweat fest of my trying to drag two low levels across the finish line agaisnt lvl 80 club teams.

[gritty turtle]

can we get some sort of match making in quick play modes, when I'm consistently the only one or one of 2 people on my team with positive scores while everyone else has 0-2 kills and the entire other team has positive scores, there's a problem. I get it, nobody plays this game and the people who do are spread thin over 10 different modes (3 different verions of cashout included), I already have to wait 3-5 minutes during prime gaming hours on a friday to find a death match with crossplay off, but if I have to wait another 5 minutes just to give me some hope that I'm not going to waste the next 20 minutes of my life I'd take it.

[lapis basin]

We need LARGE PARTY lobbies… 5v5v5v5 WT would be CRAZYYYYY

[quick coyote]

Something's weird about elims something is missing it doesn't feel as rewarding

Also can y'all add the halo to a different category so you can overlay it with a hat

[tacit whale]

I think you should restore the melee weapons damage to before the nerfs and introduce a new type of nerf to specialisations that get paired with pain point weapons. The sledge itself should be op but maybe when paired with the winch the cool down is increased or the range of the winch decreases. Same with sword, return its damage but nerf dash when it gets paired with it

[burnt notch]

https://tenor.com/view/cummins-gif-12535975135255283466

[plush fjord]

vrs needs another way to be spent. but me wanting it to be converted into fans thing was just me sad abt not being able to get enough fans for that ospuze ARN skin 😅

@vocal nimbus idk abt the filter it doesnt actually look like one of those boomer shooters. the explosions needed to look more pixelated too. but ill give em credit for the rpg style.

most ppl complaining abt the gameplay itself and not the animations or whatevr are just frustrated with the fact that for once they have to use positioning and game sense to use the gun instead of blandly aiming with their usuals, famas and xp54

[clever python]

please make the M11 with a mag of 50

[signal cosmos]

praying for more map variants

[atomic crow]

make pets do sounds like the moolah charm and add a setting for how often we want the sound instead of adding 2 of the same item

[slender girder]

Dude, it sounds like you don't know how the legacy BP's work.. you have to spend your tokens to unlock the next page. So you can't just pick whatever things you want like you make it sound like. You need to spend those hard earned tokens on a bunch of stuff you don't necessarily want just to get from page 1 to 2 and so on. And to get to page 12 you need to spend like 330 tokens or sth 🙈 And you get like 2 tokens for 3 Quickplay matches. Not even 1 per game guaranteed. At least give us that so it makes sense and lessens it a bit.

And countless people have complained about this and offered suggestions etc. I am far from alone. But suppose I shouldn't expect everyone to be in this server daily or weekly and see that. I mean it wasn't even me you responded to at the start of this 😅 It was another one of many who don't like this token system. So what you said about it only being me makes no sense.

And no need for mental gymnastics. I think you are smarter than actually believing I meant they get a net loss from the legacy BP's. But it's quite obvious they make less money if people are much less likely to buy multiple BP's due to the crazy time it takes to unlock all pages or even getting to the latter pages on a single BP.

It sounds like you're arguing just to argue, or you have an agenda. I'm not mad tho. You're just making arguments without seemingly knowing what you're talking about. Anyway, tag me in another thread if you want to continue this so we don't have to deal with the 4h cooldown 😆 They don't want discussions in here anyway.

[hazy skiff]

Horse

[tawdry wyvern]

My trusty steed

[placid acorn]

please fix ks-23 and its madness inducing accuracy and phasing bullets

[junior crater]

An idea to address the always-present defibrillator:
Allow denial of the revive by damaging the player hologram in-progress

[brisk magnet]

I got an account suspension for abandoning the match even though I played in the match ?

[azure tree]

suddently the game crashes when i start it up. up until now it have been working just fine. took a break from the game earlier today and when i got back to play some more i just cant start it. the game goes into loading screen then the pc freezes and it crashes after a few minutes. i have tried to verify files, updated my graphic card, removed overlays, and even reinstalled the game. anyone know what to do?

[rustic tinsel]

Do you know what 'Survivorship bias' is? It’s a logical fallacy where people only focus on those who made it through a selection process while ignoring those who didn’t. When only the players who managed to adapt to using melee weapons are still using them, of course the remaining stats will look good because only the successful ones are left. Anyone who wasn’t good at using melee weapons would’ve just stopped playing them. That’s why, objectively, there have always been fewer melee users than gun users.

So making balance decisions based solely on stats without playing the weapon yourself is absurd. The fact that only a few people are using it means it’s already a weapon for experts. And if only experts remain, of course the stats will look good. And If many people are asking for a nerf, it usually means they don’t even use the weapon themselves. Look at Pike. It’s one of the strongest weapons right now, but you don’t see nearly as many people crying for a nerf. Why? Because the majority of this game’s players are mediums (actually embark says). And naturally, people don’t ask for nerfs on weapons they like and use themselves.

But I’m NOT saying Pike should be nerfed. What I’m saying is that the other weapons should be buffed to the same level.

Fighting against niche weapons requires a different approach than fighting against guns. But instead of adapting, a bunch of dumb players keep whining for nerfs because they can’t be bothered to change their gadgets or playstyle.

Instead of nerfing, just buff the alternatives. That way, the players who use those weapons don’t feel unfairly punished, and those using other weapons will enjoy having more competitive options Everyone wins. So why do you only nerf? Nerfs should be handled with surgical precision, not through nonsense like slashing a weapon’s dmg by 25%. Keep doing that, and the players who used those weapons will just quit game.

Revert the nerfs to sword, dagger, and sledge.

[tough basalt]

I have a suggestion for a pretty cool ingame event:

It will be called "Split Personality" and during its duration Everyone on the map will get 1 slot decided from their inventory and they will be notified about it (like specialization or weapon or gadget in slot 4 etc.) i.e. it will be the same for every person and the item in that slot will be replaced by a random item that their teammate is carrying regardless of their class!!!!
For example: If specializations get randomized then for that duration the heavy on that team will get light's dash and medium gets charge and slam etc.

[finite galleon]

It doesn't. Best case scenario would be a trade.

[fierce skiff]

fix fucking matchmaking in ranked, getting these fucking ai's in my team

[paper meadow]

I purposely avoid this channel but I’m swanging through to say again that the legacy pass token drop rate is weird as shit. Three games in a row this morning (two Blast Off! And one TDM) gave me zero tokens. Then the next, a backfill losing team TDM game gave me two which was odd. I then WON A GAME OF WORLD TOUR WHICH NETTED ME ONLY TWO TOKENS.

Please please please make it consistent next update. First standardize at least one token per game of any kind, then add one for the number of rounds gotten through in WT and Ranked past the first, then add a bonus if you win. I haven’t the foggiest idea what basis the current drop system is working under but it feels so bad I’m both not likely to buy another legacy pass, and I don’t feel motivated to complete the current one because there’s no way of knowing how long it will take or when I’ll actually get tokens. I don’t like it one bit.

Also, odd new bug sometimes the final red kill hitmarker won’t show up on kill after the last update. And cashboxes are spawning suspiciously close to cashouts, which I thought was something specifically addressed a few updates back.

Also also, on a lighter note. I like the model (short barrel) and wear pattern (slight corrosion and wear on metal parts) on the “stuck on you” FCAR skin but it unfortunately doesn’t seem to have been used anywhere else. Hoping we get another skin using this model and wear pattern sometime it looks nice, maybe the virtual extension

[short fern]

As far as I know, it seem to drop after some time. On long ass match like world tour and overtime cashout, I seem to get 2-3 or even 4 token but very rare does shorter match drop any

[shrewd echo]

I'm playing blast off with the Duke Nukem 3D theme song on, 🕶️

[spare ravine]

who at embark approved nade launcher im going 14 and 4 without breaking a sweat

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the first swing damage in the combo from 65 to 70 making it 70, 80, 90 and increase the spin attack damage to 120

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either give it a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block all melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it's bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

these emojis will highlight the message so anyone at embark can see them 🥇:🤠🤯😵:⚽️:grinning:😆🙃😇🫠

[young karma]

save the sword

[twilit geode]

New gadget suggestion Floor Freeze grenade - freezes floor so demat won't work needing to use the drill.

[last saddle]

Think we can add some more Badge levels for quickplay?

[solid spindle]

please fix ranked matchmaking. I know you removed the ability to see other players ranks so we cant complain that you are ranking golds with ruyby players but at least fix it so its a fair game.

[loud mantle]

EXPRESSION WHEEL SYNCING

Can we have an option to sync our expression wheel, so it's consistent across our different contestants? Maybe we can have the option to individually sync each expression tab on the wheel?

It's a small gripe, but I don't like that I need to apply one new expression across 8 different contestants every time.

[sonic arrow]

Revert melee

[dense hazel]

I know it’s dumb, but think we can get more tail cosmetics specifically a wolf tail?

[rocky sorrel]

I like game:)

[molten trail]

bin low gravity

[dark niche]

this would be amazing, maybe as an ltm

[tender belfry]

Low grav is so annoying I actually miss the wallhack event LOL

[quick dew]

day 3 of asking for engimo embroidered hoodie on the merch store

[stray copper]

I 100% agree with this take! This game used to feel great back in seasons 1 and two because of the weapons stats! Embark needs to start buffing the weaker guns up because if everything is broken then nothing really needs a nerf! I feel that the weapon stats were made for the cashout/ranked mode! Third partying wasn’t that big of an issue back then because ttk was high but not overpowering! I thought we were heading in the right direction with adding healing gadgets! Just buff around the weapons not being able to compete with the heals! This is coming from a top 500 for every ruby season! This game is really boring and depressing now to play! Also rise and recruit is a bit ridiculous!

[harsh cliff]

What a horrible experience, with CL40, people just abuse it over and over again. I can't stand the game with this trash gun in the game ruining the whole experience

[sly ore]

I’m sick of playing blast off rounds in a 2v3 because some jerk decided to leave halfway through, and the game decides to not give us anyone at all

We still won but I swear it’s like that match was deliberately done to try to make us lose

[frozen pelican]

Fourth of July is here, and yet, flashbang still has no skins. Complete missed opportunity for a sparkler skin or LITERALLY ANYTHING

[upbeat bone]

any tips for this blast off joke ? my bullets are never hitting.....

[valid canyon]

holy this game fucking sucks this falloff was insane

[remote zealot]

8v8 mode

[quick coyote]

Suggestion. It would be cool to give Heavy a sniper rifle (a .50 caliber rifle). Not only will it be fun, it would boost Heavy usage. Since when you match for a game, 7/8-10 are Lights and Mediums. Also you can give Heavy the equivalent of a zip line or Jump pad. Idk like a like a mechanized pogo stick that helps make big jumps or something I don’t know. That would be fun I think.

[bronze pewter]

The finals is awesome (except cl40) but my friend has a problem. I think his computer has good specs but he has a lot of trouble connecting to the servers and when we queue he is never able to connect in time and he usually gets his spot taken. Is there any fix to this?

[chrome basin]

Delete the fuckign winch. Its insane. You get winched behind cover. Through walls. It winches you when it misses on the way back. YOU CAN NO LONGER SHOOT WHEN WINCHED AGAINST THE FUCKING 350HP GORILLA THAT HAS STRONGER GUNS THEN ANY LIGHT GUN. WTF EMBARK. You keep nerfing lights stun gun but give heavy a fuckign worse stun lock shit of a winch. HOLY FUCK. Why the fuck do you think 90% of heavys at high level are running winch?

[mossy vector]

Hey devs, just wanted to give some feedback on the bow. Right now, it doesn't feel smooth to use — mainly because of the scoped right-click. Most other games with bows (like Marvel Rivals or Overwatch) don't force a scope; instead, right-click is used to uncharge or cancel the shot, which feels much more natural.

Prediction is a huge part of bow gameplay, and the current scoped mechanic gets in the way. If I charge a shot and the enemy moves, I should be able to cancel it quickly — but right now I'm forced to shoot or awkwardly switch gadgets to uncharge.

Would love to see the scope removed entirely or at least allow right-click to uncharge instead. It's not really useful for bow players and ends up hurting aiming and flow. Thanks for reading!

[zinc turtle]

Hey Finals devs, just wanted to bring something up — the guardian turrets are a bit overpowered at the moment. They lock on super fast, deal heavy damage, and can really shut down pushes in a way that feels a bit off balance. It’s not that they shouldn’t be strong, but right now it feels like they dominate fights instead of supporting them. Maybe some tweaks to lock-on speed, damage output, or uptime could help keep them effective without making them so overwhelming.

[graceful tapir]

waiting for embark to do any meaningful changes to the game is like watching monkeys with neurological damage on typewriters trying to type a single cohesive word for nearly 2 years with no success

[runic gorge]

in settings have an option to adjust how sensitive the scroll wheel is when selecting different gear.

Warzone didn't have a option to adjust it but it was less sensitive so it was harder to accidently skip past the item you wanted

[uneven dagger]

game crashing on overall quality level changes ):

[echo urchin]

Sooo… when are we getting a full character set in this style?

[toxic sedge]

Do you know what 'Survivorship bias' is? It’s a logical fallacy where people only focus on those who made it through a selection process while ignoring those who didn’t. When only the players who managed to adapt to using melee weapons are still using them, of course the remaining stats will look good because only the successful ones are left. Anyone who wasn’t good at using melee weapons would’ve just stopped playing them. That’s why, objectively, there have always been fewer melee users than gun users.

So making balance decisions based solely on stats without playing the weapon yourself is absurd. The fact that only a few people are using it means it’s already a weapon for experts. And if only experts remain, of course the stats will look good. And If many people are asking for a nerf, it usually means they don’t even use the weapon themselves. Look at Pike. It’s one of the strongest weapons right now, but you don’t see nearly as many people crying for a nerf. Why? Because the majority of this game’s players are mediums (actually embark says). And naturally, people don’t ask for nerfs on weapons they like and use themselves.

But I’m NOT saying Pike should be nerfed. What I’m saying is that the other weapons should be buffed to the same level.

Fighting against niche weapons requires a different approach than fighting against guns. But instead of adapting, a bunch of dumb players keep whining for nerfs because they can’t be bothered to change their gadgets or playstyle.

Instead of nerfing, just buff the alternatives. That way, the players who use those weapons don’t feel unfairly punished, and those using other weapons will enjoy having more competitive options Everyone wins. So why do you only nerf? Nerfs should be handled with surgical precision, not through nonsense like slashing a weapon’s dmg by 25%. Keep doing that, and the players who used those weapons will just quit game.

Revert the nerfs to sword, dagger, and sledge.

listen to this guy, embark!

[scarlet orchid]

Small feedback about the new victory scene: I prefer the previous version, the new hand gesture scenes are quite generic and there is an animation jump cut. The background is basic and always the same, the signature place of the map was better. I also feel the emote frame too tight. I know it's just details but imo the victory pose is part of the good gamefeel. It is a good idea to improve it, but I hope this try will gonna be reverted. Btw, thanks for implementing choice between intro and victory pose!

[drifting topaz]

SHAK ANIMATIONS PLEASE

[broken crest]

REVERT SWORD DAGGER AND HAMMER EMBARK PLS
ITS UNPLAYABLE IN HIGH ELO IN RANKED EMBARKKKKKKKKKKKK TEAMMMMMM @daring harness go play fortnite nobody wants you if you hate THE MELE WEAPONS COMMUNITY
@ruby dew ❤️

[hazy skiff]

Horse

[wide void]

Buff:
Guardian Turret (ramping damage or firerate, faster turning speed)
Grappling Hook (2 charges, higher cooldown? Or maybe just range)
Nullifier (prevent nullified people from healing at all)
Flamethrower (increase firerate by around 10%)
Model 1887 (increase damage by 9 to go back up 117... or at least try experimenting with increasing by 1 or 5 by making only the centermost pellets do more damage)
CL-40 (add 9 damage on direct projectile hit)
KS-23 (make perfectly accurate all the time)
Literally every fucking melee weapon (primarily in the damage department)

Rework:
Cloak (use true invis, not this shimmering BS. You can debuff or delay the user to compensate.)
Vanish Bomb (same as above)
MGL32 (make direct hits on players explode)
Winch Claw (personally want to see the stun timing be consistent again. In exchange, don't let it hit people when it's returning back to the user empty-handed.)

Nerf:
Nothing. You've arbitrarily nerfed so much shit for no reason that it's becoming a reverse power creep. Fix up the other stuff above first.

Other:
Add an option to keep crosshairs showing while aiming down sights...
Add an option to see ping in-game...

v @tacit whale fail

[tacit whale]

https://tenor.com/view/gavin-meme-gavin-meme-disappointed-annoyed-gif-546450754415092863

[thick birch]

make ks-23 hit scan or make it so you can 1 shot and punch light 2 shots and punch medium and 3 shots punch heavy

[naive seal]

Add the new maps to Powershift and Terminal Attack

[vagrant lake]

please fix winchclaw turning me into a potato while the three armed heavy keeps shooting at me