👂┇game-feedback

[rustic tinsel]

When a specific weapon shows increased usage, it means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed. It’s not like it suddenly became OP and people started using it.
If you make other weapons viable, their usage will naturally go up while the usage of the previously dominant ones goes down.
Nerfs are not the only way to balance a game. Buffs are a better valid option.

please, stop with the nonsense about nerfing dmg for the sake of Light. That doesn’t help only Light. It affects every class and ends up making weapons useless.
If you can’t kill a Light, you definitely won’t be killing Medium and Heavy. What’s meant to help Light usually ends up favoring Medium and Heavy more.

About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so needs high DPS. DB is only viable up close, and it should 2-tap Heavy. That was correct, so reverted.
The same goes for Sword.As with the DB, you need to correct the mistake here this time too. Now,Sword has the worst TTK compared to any other weapon. Even though it's a melee weapon. Sword was built around close-range and Light’s low hp.it required specific dmg combinations for each classes.so lunge was 140 dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + left click + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + left click.
Lunge must deal 140 dmg.

Melee weapons need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it makes sense that melee should win up close range.
Melee dmg nerfs are just removing melee from the game. Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be usable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/
Stop lying and start keeping your promises.

[plush fjord]

Mate DB is 100 percent not balanced. It should NOT two-shot a heavy just because light has low hp.

No other gun in the light class two-shots heavies, but people still play them and guns like XP54 are still amazing and used by so many even tho they dont kill heavies in like three seconds

No one should be able to simply left click twice to get an elim. Theres literally almost zero skill there, and you can literally just go into meelee range and shoot while not even having to aim. Plus if you have cloak it becomes a complete free kill now that the chances the opponent is going to notice is you are much less

People defending the DB have the same dumb arguments about light having low health. They dont realize lights have so much more, and lights still get loads of eliminations using guns like xp54 or lh1, that aren't three-second elim guns

[fervent citrus]

People keep saying that there's no counter to CL, its damage is too high, no time to react. Literally APS, one of the slowest TTKs (if you aren't a light), my brother it is a projectile. If you got ambushed by a CL then at least be close to another team to 2v1, or drop an APS to negate it. If you are a light, well it's a counter to lights, simple as. If you are a heavy, it can't do anything against domes or winches. Close quarters? Then do spacing or push from different angles, don't give it a chance to deal splash. It is literally a shadow of its former self after the various changes since S2 and after the S6 changes, its the last close quarters med gun. If you want less people to use it, maybe buff other weapons to be useable again.

[sterile yew]

games trash now ngl

[devout bobcat]

I just did 714 damage to a heavy getting healed by the L heal gun in like 3.2 seconds

[stuck rock]

i think the lewis gun should have a minor buff to it. it doesnt exactly make sense now to use lewis gun opposed to the M60. if you combine the rate of fire + the dammage of the m60 you can basically win against a lewis gun. pair this with the bigger 70 round mag and you have a gun that has less recoil, more firerate, and more ammo that is better than the lewis gun. lewis gun can still work but the only thing that really beats the m60 is the damage fall off. i hope that this can be adressed somehow. lovin the season, keep up the awsome content.

[jade mirage]

Can you guys buff the OCE World Tour player count?

[south hull]

appeal to developers

Please, I beg you and probably many will agree with me. Make access to the world tour from level 20.
Since you added points for losing, more people have started playing in the world tour, since they see the earnings of multibucks and everyone plays starting from level 1, without even understanding the mechanics. throws a level 60 player into a party and two players up to level 10 - the result is simply ruining the rink. urgently set a restriction on access for players with a level below 20. Believe me, the amount of multibucks that you give for gold has already attracted players and they will be forced to level up to 20 to start playing in the world tour for multibucks. it has become impossible to play in the world tour because of inexperienced players, and finding a party with your level is a problem since experienced players do not want to play in the world tour for various reasons, who does not have the time to play or who has other concerns. but everyone is interested in multibucks because they can only be obtained in the world tour. For you, it is better to keep the audience of players in the game longer, so make them level up to level 20 and understand the mechanics of the game.

[errant crater]

the mp5 feels like a reloading simulator
buff the reload speed or give it a few extra bullets

[full sierra]

i lost 1400 to cheaters tonight can we please just fucking ban the entire dmpro clan

[cinder charm]

Day 14 of asking embark to bring back bank it (and day 2 of asking embark to nerf cl-40)

[zenith forge]

This healing meta is one of the worst fucking meta ever holy shit, I'd rather have the rpg 1 shot, sword 1 shot, sledge 1 shot and the all the goofy mechanics Season 1 had, this game is supposed to be FUN but embark for the worse decided to make this game into a fucking competitive one when it wasnt even the identity of the finals in the first place. Now fights drag on for multiple minutes can the light can now pocket a heavy from zero to full health, and the heavy can now turtle spam shields cause he has an orb that can heal ALL of his teamates making medigun of the medium completely useless.
Now every team just spams heals with shields hides behind a fucking corner and just spams cl40

Embark really needs to stop listening so much to pro players when the casuals were the one that MADE THIS GAME

[chrome ingot]

no middle east server, no game optimiazation, CPU usage more than GPU what a fucking joke, just delete your game it is a money lundary just nerfing everything and soesn't care about the community never thought About the Middle Eastren people how many times have we requested a server? no one even bothered to help omk

[cobalt kernel]

Add iron sights to sniper rifle, buff hitscan range by 10 meters

CL40 needs nerf to projectile speed and travel distance mainly, It was pretty slow before but you overtuned the heck out of it, damage is fine i guess if you fix that

Buff breach charge fuse time, takes forever to explode

Buff Pyro grenade AOE

Buff Reshaper recharge time greatly, or give third charge back

BRING BACK BANK IT

Remove Quick Cash for it, i am serious and don't care how "popular" it is. This 3rd party gank fest was a filler mode during closed beta and has outlived it's purpose a looong time ago. actively keeps people away from WT/Ranked'

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block secondary attacks of all melee weapons (except riot shield and dual blades because both weapons have a blocking mechanic) like the sledgehammers overhead charge and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it is bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
Hopefully someone at Embark sees this, these emojis will highlight the message so you can see them 🥇:🤠🤯😵:⚽️:grinning:😆🙃😇🫠

[lime vortex]

Please bring back Bank It!

[thick cliff]

Is this the season 7 that devs said this is the most amazing season on the game then seeing a whole lobby high ranked running cl40
Bro do your thing nerf or buff just keep shit balanced
Give meduim class some love its supposed to be one of the best class on the game since its in the middle imagine heavy can heal himself dropping a shield light can invis damage you first or dash away and save some hp while meduim is just you and your gun bro you killing the class since yall adding some stupid gadgets to both light heavy but forgetting the meduim it feels hella useless to support team even the heal that meduim have feels useless when u see heavy and light heal gadgets

[minor notch]

On god I’m gonna tell orange to help us grief out purple

[north dew]

Please fix the ranked system. Last season Rubies are as low as Silver

[crisp timber]

While playing Power Shift, a CL40 meteor shower rains down on the platform.
I think it looks beautiful from the outside, but from our side, it's shit.

[vestal pulsar]

Buff this fcking hammer its waaay to strong I want to play normally and get one shot Bro tf whats that

[still vortex]

This recruit and rise thing is a joke, where can i find a player less than 20 games, and people are only interested if you're some kind of twitch player or youtuber

[timid quartz]

I suggest to add xp token to the game. So you have something to spend youre VRs on. Make a battle pass, level and weapon level xp token. And have different durations like 1 hour 30 min and 15 min the 1 hour should cost 5000 VRs and the half hour 2500 VRS and the 15 min 1250 VRs.

[austere vector]

REMOVE SUSPENDED STRUCTURES FROM THE FINAL ROUND FOR GODS SAKE

[median moat]

This game does not need recruitment programs to begin with. We already have plenty of reasons for beginners to invest their time into the game.

They should've just made the cosmetics grindable for everyone and especially newcomers, like having them featured on the Player Level track. The emblems tied to the later levels are already borderline useless since every player can see your account level during kill screens and post-match results.

What this instead encourages is getting extroverted people to try and advertise the game to their peers, leaving a good amount of other dedicated players hanging since they don't have the means or time to invest getting people to try the game out.

On top of that, some will figure out a different way to get the rewards by simply making alt accounts, then using them to progress the contracts. And since the alt account is discardable afterwards, those who only care about getting rewards will likely consider expediting the progress by using cheats.

It's a feature with good intentions, but especially in a F2P game like The Finals, this simply gives people incentives to interact with the feature with as little effort as possible.

[stray wing]

Pls fix riotshield and pls ad a new specialization for light next season

[naive gust]

The map design in this game is so utterly horrendous. it sucks because the weapons are in fact balanced quite well. HOWEVER certain things and strategies may seem overpowered 9 times out of 10 because of poor map design.

ALSO ADD STATS FOR NERDS

[winter falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-wth-confused-huh-what-gif-6154003038879814

[silent fog]

why is db still this stupid..

[cyan sable]

Kitsune tail lower back cosmetic pleaseee

[vast obsidian]

Why have modern games become formulaic in terms of equipment and weapons configuration? Almost all teams are almost identical. From S1 to S7, the original diversity of the game has turned into a simple shooting game. The game balance is really bad. Now I have no expectations at all for the game. It's really disappointing.

[sterile canopy]

They will optimise for whatever works the best for player retention and that will naturally tend to lead to similar outcomes

[cedar cave]

Gadget idea: Demolition grenade

Class: Medium? Idk really

1 per maximum in inventory

Impact grenade that deals great structure damage but low player damage, useful for quickly breaking a wall and escaping (opposed to the breach charge or drills which take a while to arm)

[royal gust]

Revert the nerf to Sledge. it was too much. You can't kill a heavy anymore and an SA will win anytime against a sledge. The light hit does no damage anymore so the only viable attack is overhead which has no range and is easily dodgeable. It's unplayable. Please.

[broken pawn]

Pls buff other weapons, im tired of cl-40 and DB

[rugged tundra]

the game is reallygoodi love the agme keep up the good work i love the eay the game is right now is fantastic it is the most fun

[errant orchid]

Pleeease nerf this cl40. I just had a lobby where more than half of the players played cl40

[naive pier]

Add ME servers too many players from that region and they all playing in 110+ ping !! And lagging EU servers

[rustic tinsel]

When a specific weapon shows increased usage, it means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed. It’s not like it suddenly became OP and people started using it.
If you make other weapons viable, their usage will naturally go up while the usage of the previously dominant ones goes down.
Nerfs are not the only way to balance a game. Buffs are a better valid option.

please, stop with the nonsense about nerfing dmg for the sake of Light. That doesn’t help only Light. It affects every class and ends up making weapons useless.
If you can’t kill a Light, you definitely won’t be killing Medium and Heavy. What’s meant to help Light usually ends up favoring Medium and Heavy more.

About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so needs high DPS. DB is only viable up close, and it should 2-tap Heavy. That was correct, so reverted.
The same goes for Sword.As with the DB, you need to correct the mistake here this time too. Now,Sword has the worst TTK compared to any other weapon. Even though it's a melee weapon. Sword was built around close-range and Light’s low hp.it required specific dmg combinations for each classes.so lunge was 140 dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + left click + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + left click.
Lunge must deal 140 dmg.

Melee weapons need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it makes sense that melee should win up close range.
Melee dmg nerfs are just removing melee from the game. Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be usable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/
Stop lying and start keeping your promises.

[mellow geyser]

It’s an awful feeling being a heavy and being killed by a light so quickly you can’t turn around. They stretched the classes too thin to make them different. This game would be more fun if you could customize your players health etc without the game doing it for you. The class system is a fundamental flaw with the game.

[sick crown]

pls nerf the gren launcher for medium, it's just close to impossible to win as a light from and buff the dual barrel shotgun (and the other ones too tbh) headshot damage should do more damage

[echo panther]

buff pyro and gas grenade

[rapid pike]

The Cl40 pick rate is wayyyy too high...

[zenith cape]

I mean it’s basically just KS23 with AOE damage

[fading flame]

make the hammer overhead swing deal 3000 damage

[wanton wagon]

yeah how come cl40 is so popular

[cosmic grail]

pls add 5 more bullets the the SHAK 🥺

[wind meteor]

Double barrel can delete a heavy in 2 shots. Crazy asking for a buff. Aim better, you don't even need to ADS. Just hip fire.

[solemn linden]

what the genuine fuck was the thought process of adding FUCKING WALL HACKS FOR EVERYONE BRO

[signal basin]

Cerberus = 99 DMG
KS 23 = 100 DMG
CL 40 = 100 DMG
RPG = 100 DMG
Model = 108 DMG
SR84 = 118 DMG
Mine = 120 DMG
Grenade frag = 140 DMG
C4 = 155 DMG

So much fun to play Light with 150 HP.

How Light should play since S6 and the CL40 buff ?! Really Embark ?

Edit : Nevermind. I give up. I stop playing your game until you nerf CL40 and buff Light.

[solid slate]

Nerf cl40, such a frustrating weapon cannot have a place in the meta

[night spindle]

headshot damage for a shotgun? tf

[hazy vessel]

Nerf cl40, are you devs blind

[craggy basin]

Good feedback

[drifting topaz]

Skill issue

[noble path]

Revert the shameless sledgehammer nerf, fix the dumpsterfire sledge bugs that has been reported which were deliberately ignored for 10 months

[dim root]

I never said heal meta is bad. I said that H+ infuser outclasses other healing options. Read what I wrote one more time.

[copper blade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/sjdBOpPDFj

[quartz dirge]

Nerf v9s

[rustic tusk]

I think a castle map would be fun

[minor locust]

You know light is the OP class in this game right? If you cant handle fighting a CL40, its you not the game. Good riddance

[torpid turtle]

I'd love to see a beautiful snowy Ice map, reminiscent of the Ice spikes biome in Minecraft. The buildings could be made into the Ice spikes. The Ice would have beautiful, diffused reflections. A new event could be introduced as well. The event could be Ice rain? Maybe we could have poison spikes rain on the floor upon death? Destroyed walls turn to lava?

[broken crest]

Embark Team Embark Team I have one thing to say about your patch notes if we are all honest NOBODY wanted mele weapons to be nerfed nobody but what are you doing nerfing mele weapons only (Appoh) wanted it that's why you should buff sword dagger and hammer again if you don't want to lose players thanks

[thick ferry]

Would like to add, kinda annoying that the DB is still a one shot with decent range on a light while the sword got nerfed into the dirt

[void vine]

Give us replays. I’m tired of not understanding how I died. Give us replays, we will leave this game behind. Give us replays, so I can learn from my mistakes like how an actually athlete/contestant would! Give us replays

[edgy glen]

Please make testing easier

• Let us join any map alone
• spawn bots/props
• add a camera object/3rd person option to test 3rd person animations
• Noclip
• infinite gadgets/specializations
• slow mo
• etc

[static cave]

Low key the team deathmatch variations of the new maps have 0 flow. It feels like it takes alot longer for me to “reach the fight”. Also, I’m not sure if it’s just the new maps or new equipment, but team deathmatch feels like there’s a lot more camping in one spot of the map and never moving. I miss just running around seemingly finding action everywhere….

Who knows. Maybe it’ll grow on me eventually, but for now I’ll just keep trying to have fun

[dusty igloo]

Buff sledge nerf winch, winch was the issue, sledge is now way too weak for non winch users

[somber dew]

stumbled upon this pic randomly, should make it V9S legendary skin

[cosmic ether]

Yes

[true pollen]

asking for a SH1900 nerf

[worldly pumice]

now that there's been a ton of healing methods introduced, i think there should be some kind of heal cut debuff in the game, where getting inflicted with it will half all incoming healing (excluding base regen). i suggest tracking dart (its really bad rn), poison gas (if you take a certain amount of damage from it), and defib sickness should all have this effect.

also sidenote i think h+ infuser really needs either a range limit or diminished heals based on distance

[sonic spoke]

Probably to counter the real wall hacks that they haven't been able to catch with EAC.

CL 40 just needs self damage range and values tweaked.

[dense totem]

honestly cerberus meta > cl40 meta

[forest wind]

pls nerf cl-40

[feral ferry]

Please don't nerf the CL40. Make more weapons viable by buffing them. The CL40 can be out played by the APS.

[pulsar willow]

like aps exists on all classes and can't be destroyed by teammates with hitscan weapons

[untold hazel]

aps only exist on medium?

[sullen plover]

I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but I wanted to propose a featuring with the film "Ready Player One" in the future, we see that there is a certain inspiration from this film in The Finals with the lore of a virtual game that the whole world watches, and coins that fall when a character dies, but it would be crazy to do this featuring and have the skins of the characters from the film Ready Player One in The Finals!! and even some kind of major event that refers to the plot of the film maybe ?

[radiant reef]

Please, add more outfit slots; make skins, expressions, etc. get saved with the outfits; make us preview player card on the shop and character editor; make us preview emotes and weapons while previewing clothes. I really want to buy more stuff and have fun creating outfits, but just cannot because of these huge limits.

[sterile canopy]

gimmicks for the gimmick mode

[nocturne quest]

I think the game would really benefit from a 4v4 or 5v5 Cashout mode.

The main reason is that it would make it easier for people to bring friends into the main mode of the game. Most players already have two friends they play with regularly, and adding a fourth person means they’re forced to switch to other game modes, which aren’t as fun as Cashout.

Adding a 4v4 or 5v5 mode would solve this problem.

My idea for how 5v5 could work:
You could add 2 cash boxes and 2 cashout points, just like in the World Tour mode. This would create a interesting team split (similar to games like CS or MOBAs where you have team split on 2 to 3 diffrent positions) and open up more room for creative tactics and strategies. You get the idea!

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the damage of the first swing in the combo from 65 to 70 making it 70, 80, 90 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block secondary attacks of all melee weapons (except riot shield and dual blades because both weapons have a blocking mechanic) like the sledgehammers overhead charge and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it's bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
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[rigid shale]

melee are directly countered and invalidated by the xpose event, and undertuned to begin with. the event is a cool idea, but in practice, miserabe to deal with. dagger is comically underpowered and left behind; not a single ruby dagger main, and that's for a deliberate reason: met with competent opponents, it can't keep up with alternatives. weapon balance has never felt worse. embark says they want melee weapons in the game but have let them stagnate in favor of cheesy spam weapons new and unskilled players can have good effect at all ranges with simply by spamming jump and shoot together. cheating & exploiting have never been more common. i've played since the open beta and have never felt less enthusiastic about the game. optimistic itll turn around.

[rotund gust]

the performance got so bad this season on xbox series x. The judders and stutters when looking around are crazy.

[rustic tinsel]

When a specific weapon shows increased usage, it means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed. It’s not like it suddenly became OP and people started using it.
If you make other weapons viable, their usage will naturally go up while the usage of the previously dominant ones goes down.
Nerfs are not the only way to balance a game. Buffs are a better valid option. Instead of nerfing some weapon, buff other weapons to make them usable.

please, stop with the nonsense about nerfing dmg for the sake of Light. That doesn’t help only Light. It affects every class and ends up making weapons useless.
If you can’t kill a Light, you definitely won’t be killing Medium and Heavy. What’s meant to help Light usually ends up favoring Medium and Heavy more.

About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so needs high DPS. DB is only viable up close, and it should 2-tap Heavy. That was correct, so reverted.
The same goes for Sword. As with the DB, you need to correct the mistake here this time too. Now,Sword has the worst TTK compared to any other weapon. Even though it's a melee weapon. Sword was built around close-range and Light’s low hp. it required specific dmg combinations for each classes.so lunge was 140 dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + left click + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + left click.
This is the most ideal.

Melee weapons need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it makes sense that melee should strong up close range.
Melee dmg nerfs are just removing melee from the game. Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
Start keeping your promises.

[toxic sedge]

+1

[tawdry tree]

I like the xposure thing in wt, but it feels a bit unfair for some weapons, like long distance weapons, that tends to hide, dagger (or actually most of melee weapons), that plays on flanking, or strait up light that run invis. I don't know, mix feelings

[primal sierra]

This is crazy but would a rework to percentage damage(33%) fix cl? Then heavy is killable but light can escape. I know there is turmoil with this weapon but this could work but it’s a wild card

[slender pine]

It’d be fun if you didn’t have to run an AR. Was more fun when other unique weapons were viable (sledge, flamethrower, sword, etc). Now all yall do is balance around ARs. Fuckin snooze fest

[coral pivot]

Bro thinks the devs actually read feedback. That's adorable.

[silk dew]

I heavily dislike PROTOCOL: XPOSE.

[versed dagger]

goo mines?

[final canopy]

In a game full of cosmetics, I often struggle to visually tell the difference between classes unless their health is visible.

[stuck sapphire]

make a big doodoo gun and skibidi toilets that can heal you when you drink out of them pls

[quasi delta]

Day 11 of waiting until Embark is compliant with 2025 EU consumer protection guidelines.

[rapid pike]

Minor improvement: Allow shop item rows to be scrolled with scroll-wheel left and right

[pastel nebula]

Going to sound crazy but could we add a working anticheat to the game?

[remote loom]

I haven’t made an accidental purchase in the finals but the ability to refund would be nice if I don’t like what I bought

[crisp parrot]

Who cares about the EU lmao

[severe prawn]

Can we have challenges for Showtime tokens ? or any type of way to get them without being unemployed.

[dreamy owl]

we need a better matchmaking

[dapper python]

i think it would be sick to change our sights in the practice range

[plush fjord]

We need cooler looking explosions.

Theyre already awesome, but right now the explosions seem to have a bit more smoke and dust and not the orange-red tint you'd expect from an explosion.

And then whenever you'd get an explosion, you'd think its light would reflect a bit off of windows and your screen.

The picture above shows the kind of thing I'm talking about. Explosions will look way better if this kinda upgrad is implemented.

Thanks Embark.

[frozen tree]

Day 6: Here we go again (I’m sorry I keep repeating this it’s just easier than coming up with new stuff each time)

Big wishlist:
Revert sword nerf (PLEASE give it 140 lunge damage, it needs it)
Revert dagger nerf (let it backstab turrets again, and increase the angle)
Revert sledge nerf (at least the left click part)
Also with the sledge buff, nerf winch! It’s the problem!
Let riot shield block/reduce damage from explosions
Increase dual blades deflection accuracy
Increase CL-40 self damage and make the projectile slower, to allow time to react
Make breach drill faster and a maybe a bigger explosion
Bring back grenade grappling, and make it easier
Make m11 a close range option, XP a mid range one, and ARN a longer range one. Same thing with AKM, FCAR, and famas, respectively
Make heal ball work like guardian turret, not going on cooldown until destroyed/picked up and can be directly or remotely picked up, giving different levels of charge depending on which one it is
Nerf h+ healing a bit
Fix performance and freezing
Let us unlock the ultimate battlepass rewards as the $20 tier, and the 20 extra levels be part of the $30
There may be more, but this is what I think for now, and I’m open to suggestions and (constructive) criticism

[hazy vessel]

Nerf cl40

[jagged rune]

The new game mode is terrible. Just give everyone wall hacks. Great idea.

[dire raft]

These show tokens are a slap in the face for Battle Pass buyers and game supporters since the first season.
I have always played through all Battle Passes and have no way to spend the STs.

[vast obsidian]

To be honest, I think although they created this game, they don't actually play it. A normal player could clearly sense such a huge difference in balance. However, they failed to notice it. They were merely preparing for their esports dream. The previous game that was all about esports has already died, and it's believed that it won't last much longer.

[hazy skiff]

Horse map

[slender girder]

IKEA map

[thorn basalt]

they should make a metal pipe mythic skin for some melee weapon

[versed gull]

Nerf healing, Adjust CL-40, buff everything else

[crisp heart]

this is literally not even feedback bro

[neat yoke]

you got the multibucks and bonus pages bro why are you so greedy and angry

[sonic spoke]

It is a way to combat poor anti cheat. Just give it to everyone.

[dense bramble]

I'm letting you know right now that myself and others are glad that people who missed out now have a chance to get what I earned. We had it good only needing to earn XP. The show token requirement is brutal in comparison, especially with you only being able to hold so many, so it evens out

[weary pine]

Fix your wanky ass matchmaking! 25k Golds shouldnt be fighting 40k+ parties!

Fix the CL-40
Nerf h+
Nerf the everliving F out of SH1900. Enough!

[novel trench]

[sonic arrow]

fix servers, fix spawns, rework cl40 to be less oppressive to play against, make EVERYTHING viable in the game, move the attention from arc raiders back to this game because holy hell are you turning in to Bungie 2.0 with the amount of mtx and lack of care for the state of the game.

ALSO PLS PUT NOZOMI WEIGHTING LOWER IM TIRED OF PLAYING AN UNOPTIMIZED MAP

[paper meadow]

Horse map

[true harness]

Please bring the team wipe penalty back to World Tour. The mode is dramatically less interesting or competitive with it gone.

[signal basin]

Update after S7 :

** General feedback **

Netcode is pathetic & lag compensation is TOO MUCH STRONG. With a really good connection, I'm still dying behind cover after a Dash. It just make me want to stop your game.

Cheaters are spreading and matchmaking is worst this season

New season, but still MMH / HHM META
I would LOVE to see your data on Light class & how weak & unbalanced they are

🎲 For the game 🎲

• In pratice game, add friendly fire option
• Improve your matchmaking in World Tour. No more Solo VS tri-stack
• Add "steps" in reload animation so when you climb on something during a reload, it's not completely reset.
• Add a report option " Sabotage " in the report section IG when people leave or AFK on purpose.
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
• Random charm list for weapons/gadgets. EDIT : Can we just choose our random skin & not all our skins ?
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
• Add the possibility to look at the banner of friends & recent players.
• **Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match. Like "only M and Dual Blade", "only Light and SR84", "only marksman", "No heal, Light only and grenade only". You can imagine all you want and put it in private match for streamer & their community to make the game more fun **

**⚖️ For balance ⚖️ **

• META Full heal. What's the point when, as Light, you get 2 shot by all the META weapons ? Buff Light weapons so they can get a kill before getting Thanosed The effort to play Light correctly is too damn high compared to Medium & Heavy class. There is no fun at all playing Light. Meanwhile Medium spam with CL40 and Heavy are unkillable with the new heal. When will we see a META with Light ? Stop listen cry baby and buff their DPS !
• REVERT CL40 BUFF. It's destroying the fun in your game
• Revert the nerf of the XP54. What's the point of putting XP at 16dmg when M11 (an other SMG) do the same, faster & with more bullets ?
• Rework Nulifier (again) : When you get it by the "Taser" your recoil is increased but you can still move as you want and you take 5 dmg/sec by the electricity during 3 sec. Can hit multiple target when you shoot.
• You shouldn't be able to right clic sword + dash. This double dash is unfair
• Nerf the CB01-Repeater damage or increase the recoil
• Rework Vanish Bomb. Make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light & it can be use for your teammates too !
• Reduce the radius of the reflect of the Dual Blade or let us shoot in the feet or something else to let us counter DB when you got an AR like Riot Shield.
• Nerf the range of the KS23. You can put 100 dmg at 20m.
• Nerf PIKE to 48 dmg instead of 50 dmg.
• Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive safer !
• Rework Sonar: Scan 5 times instead of 3 but if you don't move it can't scan you
• Winch & lockbolt shouldn't do damage. It's already strong enough
• Rework the ARN into a real AR ? Slower RPM but much more DMG. Something like the FCAR or AK for example.

** 🛜 Servers problems 🛜 **

• Improve your netcode / tickrate or I don't know what ! Dying behind cover it's one of the most frustrating thing in The Finals
• Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls, doors and farer than it should be
• Sword, dagger, DualS or all other melee weapon feels unfair when you think you're out of range and die anyway
• Having good connection = Death behind wall, door & anything else.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time

[spare rapids]

give heavies zipline

[summer yoke]

let us change the scope on the SR-84

[nova mica]

Let heavies do friendly fire against their own teammates, only heavies tho

[gritty turtle]

Skill based matchmaking and buff mgl

[sonic arrow]

"nerf cl40"

"increase the self damage" You need the cl40 to kill themselves for you? cl40 has one of the slowest kill times in the game, I'm pretty sure even a bad player can kill one in that time...

"pick rate is high" Obviously not higher than that of AKM/FCAR/XP or any other generic full auto. Plus the fact that cl40 is never seen in high ranks. Seriously, if y'all want a full auto meta there's like 50 CoD games you can play

"hard to react to" I can think of about 15 counters to cl40 (unlike the rest of the community apparently), but I'll name five

• High ground
• Aps turret
• Teamwork
• Simply OUTRANGING IT (its a projectile weapon)
• now that heal meta is a thing you can even OUTHEAL it for gods sake

learn how to deal with a cl40 yourself, dont wait for the devs to do it for you

[hollow badger]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[fair chasm]

matchmaking

[dark niche]

could we possibly get a button to swap mags on the arn? also reshaper buff please!!

[raven garnet]

could you add an option in the in-game feedback that says " teammates not in my elo " cause wow how you expect lvl 15's to handle a full lobby of ruby badge addicts. you have no problem finding them for the other teams. so why cant you find me one. like when i spent all day in plat ranked going against teams of full plat. and i have bronze ranked teammates like how is match making this bad

[swift atlas]

The in-arena announcer voice lines are too frequent, too repetitive and too loud in the mix. He no longer sounds like he's playing on the loudspeakers in the arena, but instead commentating with Scotty and June. He used to really add to the atmosphere, now he actively detracts from it

[past surge]

Remove recon sense from WT and keep it removed permanently embark. You’re dumb for adding it back, you removed it for a reason. It’s not fun

[near spruce]

color schemes of weapons being applied to sights!

[lapis harness]

Should add a way to earn mb for playing. Like x % of cash outs or something gives you like 10mb or something. Or even a weekend event thing that way its not just pay to gain. Would get tons of people to play alot

Also the halo in the bp should have two location options one as a hairpiece and other as the head option so it has more ways to wear it and layer.

[zinc palm]

the servers are really struggling as of late i think nerf melee will fix

[autumn oyster]

In almost every match there's one squad of Diamond/Ruby players in anonymous stomping all the other solo/duo players in the lobby. No fun, no balance, and I wonder how many of those Gold players will queue for another match after getting demolished with 0 KD.
It’s sad to see that there have been no balance improvements to Ranked mode at all since around Season 4

[exotic ibex]

Is anybody else unhappy with the road that Embark/THE FINALS is going? A big part of why I love(d) this game is that the Battle Pass could be purchased with in-game currency, and some of it could be obtained via the free Pass, and so if you saved enough you could buy the Premium Pass and it would reward you with more than it cost. But now there's this 'Ultimate Pass' that costs real in-game money, now I know that you could just buy the Premium Pass but it's gotten very bland and what used to be the Premium Pass is now the Ultimate Pass. Embark, please just give us the same level of cosmetics obtained in the Premium Pass but with the in-game currency.

[urban sail]

Being able to emote in the lobby would be a nice addition

[astral bough]

make cl40 more skill based (reducing splash damage)

[leaden idol]

embark pls fix winch claw hitbox
multiple times i have used my winch and completely missed the enemy player, only for the winch to somehow connect
i'm sure it was very frustrating for the enemy team

[rain marsh]

I want the gateway to be 2 MASSIVE burritos 🌯 😝!!

[tame vessel]

they said it themselves, even if they don't see it it's not the end of the world, people here spam their feedback so why not

[rotund gust]

Add World Tour Bonanza which is TDM powershift terminal attack and BANK IT.
Gain points for your same rank as OG world tour, but have the fun of VARIETY all season long CAPS LOCK!!!

Obviously points would be adjusted. You'd get 3 points for a powershift win 😇

[woven karma]

So I stopped getting full game freezes, but I now have matches where I get like death stranding movement in terms of direction changing. Really hope the server issues get worked out.

[river heath]

This one kinda unserious but I'm one of those players who dips on and out every season, this is the first one to hold my attention.

But id me remiss if I didn't bitch about the fact that I keep getting opponents such as Johnny "sweat stains" slapnuts, nearly twice my level. Every match. Rubies, emeralds. Do I generally go even / positive? Mostly. But it feels like I'm scraping by. Why the fuck can't I get paired up against with people who's hands haven't melded with their keyboard and mouse.

I appreciate a challenge but it gets to the point where there's such an inherent skill diff (I admit it, I can do better) that I just don't want to play any more matches. There just needs to be improved matchmaking is all I'm saying.

I imagine new players have it worse and this is why we don't get a lot of player retention

[worldly tulip]

Make it so you're at least guaranteed one token per match, played WT, lost on the first round but I'm fairly certain I should've gotten a token anyways, this is just dumb

[broken crest]

BUFF MELE WEPONS EMBARK YOURE COMMUNITY WANT IT YOURE COMMUNITY EMBARKKKK NOT COD COMMUNITY PLS BUFF SWORD HAMMER AND DAGGER

[ornate sage]

Day 3 of asking embark to add more outift slots please. I want to spend more money.

[unkempt bridge]

If you aren't going to rework cl40 can i please get an option to lower explosion volume specifically, I have sensitive hearing and the constant explosions in every game makes my head feel like its being kicked in.
Also buff melee, there are a ton of players about to quit over the state of melee weapons and current balance on top of the god awful performance of the game.

[grizzled sorrel]

YOU ARE COMMUNITY WANT IT YOU ARE COMMUNITY. LMAO

[lapis crystal]

Nerf cl-40

[dire raft]

I'm greedy and angry? Are you still all right?
You must be someone who just plays the game for free.
These aren't gifts, I'm paying for them!
I have paid for every season and this season even €30 so please think before you write!
I'm happy to pay for it, but throwing something at loyal customers that only disloyal customers can use is wrong.

[quartz folio]

When is embark going to fix their rank system got to love playing against ruby players when I’m high gold it’s totally fair

[halcyon patio]

NERF CL40
NERF CL40
NERF CL40
NERF CL40
NERF CL40
NERF CL40
NERF CL40
NERF CL40
NERF CL40
NERF CL40
NERF CL40
POWER SHIFT IS UNPLAYABLE

[cerulean skiff]

@split rose Hello, i'm not sure who to reach out to, and I apologize if this is the wrong place for it, but I'm looking for a song from Arc Raiders and was hoping you may be able to help 🥺

[elfin badge]

make quick cash quick again! 10 sec max respawn time

[sacred shadow]

Dont play powershift

[orchid fossil]

Nerfa CL40 för helvete. 10 matcher in och ALLA kör CL40. Fan som taget från djungelboken, jävla stammtrummor av granater som bomba på och man hinner fan inte ens reagera.

[digital shoal]

Just goes to show how much cooler CNS is than Vaiya. Wall hax WT event is not cool.

[twin helm]

can we just get a rank/WT mode where its only final round this 3rd party meta is so boring

[hoary swan]

no 😹

[analog cave]

put the new dummies with a full body in the new improved training simulations and put the old floating dummies back in the main room of the range. i dont like the constant foot steps

[dawn sigil]

So is the CL40 getting nerfed or are we expected to bring a full team of mediums to every match with APS because that’s been ruining casual for me lately.

Lights SMGs also need some damage fall off at range because how is it fair to fire 40 shots at over 40m away and deal full damage as if they were up close, whereas a Medium with an AR at any range will deal a lower amount of damage.

I love this game I swear but man it’s been irking me lately.

[worn lintel]

Agree

[spiral cypress]

They should add more recoil to mouse and keyboard input. Like in R6S, its really not fair. It would make it a bit more equalized

[twin lotus]

Can we get Middle East servers because I’am tired of high ping that ruined my game experience

[robust pagoda]

New specialization ideas:

L) Adhesive limbs/Manoeuvrability. A passive spec. Allows contestants horizontal and vertical wall movement for 3 seconds. It has a timer that starts to recharge when staying on the ground for 2 seconds. Alternatively you can press spec button to leap/dash from the place you were holding onto. The countdown is held while airborne and allows for further climb if hit the wall.

M) EMP disruptor. Tosses a device that removes every placed gadget and glitches for 1 sec. Radius of a sonar nade. Activates after 3 seconds and breaks immediately.

H) Rocket Battery. Heavy whips out after a 1,5 second two batteries holding together 8 mini rockets that deal 10-15 damage each. Main purpose would be a demolition tool with a blast and arena damage same as breach charges. 200% Self damage.

While at it.

Add anti heal effect to fire damage.

Which for H is a problematic spec. Replace is with something opposingly different. Sort of a Gravilock for an example. Instead of pulling heavier objects/contestants make heavy lunge at the target, stun it for the same amount as the winch, toss the target for the distance of 7m. Add a benefit of contestant hitting a wall with additional damage, or object destroying a wall.

Dash. Add in combat status effect giving it 1.75 sec. Cooldown when shot. Add 1 more charge. Or simply allow it for only a horizontal movement.

[versed gull]

Make melee viable

[kindred oracle]

Dear Embark: please add the chill menu variant of (You Wouldn't Be Here) Without Us

[drifting isle]

please add full chat so teams can talk, i need to say gg

[radiant blade]

Can you maybe fix the spawns?

[sonic arrow]

Nerf Cl40 FUCKING NERF IT YOU BUNCH OF BAFOONS, "PlAy HiGh GrOuNd", YEAH ID LOVE TO IF THEY DIDNT FUCKING DESTROY OR DEMAT IT DOWN

[gloomy cradle]

Bring CL-40 back down to 4 total shots and that alone would make it a lot less oppressive

Real @wide void

[vestal grail]

make the new NOZOMI/CITADEL map use the end of round theme from SYS HORIZON I think it would make the map stand out more

[fringe heron]

remove fck CL40 stupid weapon

[wide void]

STOP WHINING ABOUT CL-40. Just because its skill floor is low doesn't mean it's META. Medium's hitscan options practically ECLIPSE it beyond Gold.

BUFF UNDERPERFORMING WEAPONS BEFORE NEEDLESSLY NERFING MORE SHIT.

[toxic sedge]

This!

[cerulean echo]

Please Overhaul the Ping-System, Please Please.

[hallow wyvern]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[fleet socket]

Could Shaq have the first drum mag?
Reason: why not?

[feral shard]

Day 32 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)

It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes

It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex

Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it

(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)

[spice zenith]

CL-40 is too low skill requirement for people who can't aim, needs a nerf. APS shouldn't have to be a requirement for every match

[jagged vector]

Nerf less and buff more

[unreal kindle]

you all are very horrible, bad, horrendous, useless in this game

[wicked ocean]

How many times must i beg?!?! DELETE KYOTO! #everyonehateskyoto

[glacial iris]

i just think maybe the healing beam could use a buff or smth, idk i'm not a game designer :)

[hardy bramble]

Why can’t I make a Club??

[dusty igloo]

Can you communicate if things are a bug or not somewhere, be like "yeah these are all the bugs we are actively working to fix or these things werent actually bugs" Cause I still dont know if half the goo gun changes were shadow nerfs or bugs cause they werent in patch notes, but still not fixed

[vital vault]

I just want a Medieval themed season with a castle map and a skin for Baton that makes it a sword and shield. Maybe turn hammer into a Claymore

[dim tangle]

game is fucking trash

[crisp parrot]

90% of people agree with this devs, please no more listening to whiners 🙏🙏

[lament plinth]

Yo what?

[strange mountain]

Brother wtf is this fucking wall hacks event

[fleet quiver]

cl40 makes this game actually unplayable get rid of this fuck ass weapon

like genuinely you guys are so bad at balancing that A GRENADE LAUNCHER is capable of beating MELEE WEAPONS in MELEE RANGE. seriously what are you thinking

[simple ether]

100%. Add the healing emitter to the mix and its even worse

[pliant lichen]

Have changed my steam review to negative because the CL-40 presence is at unacceptable levels. Something needs to be done about that like yesterday. It's bad. Really bad. Worse than Cerb craze, worse than XP-54 craze. Stupidly frustrating state that the game is currently in because the playerbase cannot control themselves. The Devs need to step in and take action. This is awful.

[untold venture]

make healing beam a gadget to make it on par with heal ball and Hinfuser (both gadgets far outclassing a spec) while making defibs a specialisation and buff it back to its S1 self (maybe) but nerfing its cooldown severly (if it gets buffed back), would make picks far more important and resets harder, while also making it an actual important choice for mediums to decide whether to bring Dmat which has been meta for an extremely long time or to bring the fibs (which have been a must pick gadget for mediums since S1)

[violet matrix]

The mediocre clowns of Embark are not bored with continuing to lose players? They win a few new players but they lose many old players thanks to the stupid decisions they make, it really shows that they are no longer interested in keeping the game alive.

[bold schooner]

Played ranked with full ruby lobby (last seasons ruby, 100k kills and now around top 500). In my team was 24k and 26k teammates, Im 30k. Its so dumb...

[nocturne pumice]

That’s how most companies are, especially the Giants like Activision,etc. They care more about acquiring more players rather than the turnover ratio

[analog fog]

please just fix demat, or the servers or whatever is causing me to have to mash LMB 17 times before it actually works. like wtf, you've killed medium. healing beam is pointless now that heavy and light both have healing

[jade birch]

remove Seoul moving platforms, thanks

[crisp timber]

The reason why there are so many complaints about CL40 is that many people are uncomfortable with the fact that you can easily kill it. What is the difference between saying that other weapons are weak and saying that CL40 is OP?

[spice charm]

Is there any chance/ way this game more accessible for deaf/hard of hearing people? My friend wants to play but can barely hear.

[hazy skiff]

horse theme next season. all horse and horsing around

[fading flame]

Give medium a healing stim that heals like 30-40 health, and give it a short cooldown. Medium - the support class - has become the weakest healer.

[vocal nimbus]

Who uses the Medium for healing? I just sit around and throw bombs at people

[bold ocean]

FIX HIT REGISTRATION

[drifting topaz]

NERF CL40 NERF CL40

[reef vine]

AKM needs to stop being nerfed

[normal reef]

MAKE
MELEE
MORE
VIABLE
AS YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO

but no you'd rather give recolors of hairstyles and it'd be fine right?

Look man I was the biggest supporter of the balance team, but having such a screwed over balance where for some reason 200 damage from a hammer was overperforming while two-shotting every class with a shotgun or tossing 100 damage in 90cm radius grenades from any range is somehow still okay

This just ain't it

[pliant glade]

casual is easily the most dog shit fuckin mode, especially with bank it gone

[bleak moss]

Notice how every season, people are complaining about weapon/gadget balance? It’s almost as if none of the developers at Embark actually play this game at a high skill level. Balancing and tuning weapons/gadgets without actually testing how it will impact the gameplay. Prime example being the sniper. I still cannot for the life of me understand why they nerfed sniper. They changed the bullet to a projectile and it has completely ruined the weapon’s hit detection. Players were complaining about snipers sitting back from range and picking them off but that’s literally what a sniper is made for. 🤦‍♂️ Just think about this logically for a second, why should the sniper be outranged by a bow?

[ruby dew]

Its just crazy to me the fact that there is so many ppl from the finals community, (not CoD community) That wants mele weapons to be good as they used to be, and it just looks like we are getting ignored... Do better Embark.

#SaveMele

[rustic tinsel]

When a specific weapon shows increased usage, it means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed. It’s not like it suddenly became OP and people started using it.
If you make other weapons viable, their usage will naturally go up while the usage of the previously dominant ones goes down.
Nerfs are not the only way to balance a game. Buffs are a better valid option. Instead of nerfing some weapon, buff other weapons to make them usable.

please, stop with the nonsense about nerfing dmg for the sake of Light. That doesn’t help only Light. It affects every class and ends up making weapons useless.
If you can’t kill a Light, you definitely won’t be killing Medium and Heavy. What’s meant to help Light usually ends up favoring Medium and Heavy more.

About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so needs high DPS. DB is only viable up close, and it should 2-tap Heavy. That was correct, so reverted.
The same goes for Sword. As with the DB, you need to correct the mistake here this time too. Now,Sword has the worst TTK compared to any other weapon. Even though it's a melee weapon. Sword was built around close-range and Light’s low hp. it required specific dmg combinations for each classes.so lunge was 140 dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + left click + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + left click.
This is the most ideal.

Melee weapons need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it makes sense that melee should strong up close range.
Melee dmg nerfs are just removing melee from the game. Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
Start keeping your promises.

[versed dagger]

goo mines s8?

[tame halo]

Since a lot of people rightfully complains about server performance, I would suggest a rather obvious solution that I'm surprised Embark hasn't do outside of 'oh crap the sun is burping' emergency situation.

Have maintenance day(s)

You can't keep trying to fix stuff while having everything running, have a maintenance day, shut the server off, do your fixes, and turn it back on. I don't know why the Finals, an online, multiplayers, serverbased game doesn't have proper maintenance day. Is it because player retention? Guess what will bleed players more than wonky balance or scummy monetization does, game performance

Please have maintenance days Embark, have a time where you can turn the server off and do your proper fixes instead endless on the run band-aid fixes.

[errant crater]

NERF CL40
NERF DOUBLE BARREL
NERF DEMAT
REMOVE DEFIB
REMOVE LIGHT HEALING GUN

[lofty hornet]

Wallhacks Event is absolute garbage... Remember when Mediums had wallhacks and it was miserable... Let's give the entire game that same shitty power. Good grief.

Please don't ever bring this back.. Looks like we all get to take a week off.

[charred rover]

Make CL40 a Gadget with three shots totalling 100dmg, destruction focus since medium sucks at destruction

[midnight aurora]

if the platform is going to reach the finish line before i can after joining mid game maybe dont make me join a finished game and waste my time

[river plaza]

Fix tournament ending theme

[abstract patio]

Remove explosive damage from CL40 medium launcher and make it concussive so it moves you around

[river hearth]

I think the light's heal gun should scale based on what class its hitting so that it always heals the same relative amount per class. having it nearly full heal a heavy at that fire rate makes 0 sense. having it heal every class by, lets say a quarter of their health does

the heal beam should either be buffed pretty heavily to reflect that it is a specialization, or just make it a gadget while buffing the cooldown somewhat

chuck is mostly fine. worst case scenario it only heals 2 at once instead of 3, and have interacting with it tether/untether you. it will always have 2 tethers at most, untethering gives the tether to whoever does not have it. grabbing a tether takes it from the person who has had it the longest

gooing someone with the gun should use smaller blobs so that its less obstructive for everyone involved, doesnt apply to the 2 canned goos

[azure thistle]

this

[restive comet]

they should buff dual bladez 😏 love them

[rough storm]

can't wait till wednesday so CL is finally removed from the game and we can all play again

[rigid crown]

All I ask is please optimize the game better for pc 😭. I love this game sm. But the last 2 seasons it just seems crashing and mini freezes happen more often.

[rough monolith]

Would be nice to make the halo headwear compatible with more facewear

[pseudo latch]

FLAMETHROWER REWORK SUGGESTION
Flamethrower has been vastly underperforming for seasons, and considering the weapon is almost identical to the weapon it was back in OB, it’s about time for it to recieve some major changes.

• Increase its range back to 10 meters: Same range as open beta, its pretty much the only thing it hasnt gotten back.
• Increase overall DPS by 10: This will still leave it doing much less damage than most weapons, but at least it will be killing a medium faster than 3 seconds.
• Rework the "ADS" into an Alternate fire:
  - Alt Fire launches a fireball projectile that detonates on impact. Does 70 on a direct hit, trickles off to 30 damage at minimum range. AoE of 3 meters. Costs 5 Ammo to fire, RoF of about 90 RPM. Projectile is about as heavy as current Anti Grav Cube (no "sniping" people with fireballs)
  This would give Flamer a bit more utility and viability at range, without completely invalidating its primary fire.

SPEAR REWORK SUGGESTION
Spear as it stands just isnt working. The spin is a fun idea but its too high commitment, and far too easily punished or whiffed. It’s a fun idea but it needs to go.

• Alt fire is replaced by a spear throw:
  -upon alt fire, Heavy "charges" a spear throw (similar to how TK alt fire works) allowing them to throw a 100 damage spear projectile, with the same weight and speed of a CL40 grenade.
  This gives spear some utility no other melee can claim, allowing heavy to follow up kills that would otherwise get away from him. Though the DPS would obviously be rather low to punish spamming.

KS-23 REWORK SUGGESTION
The KS23 has been in a sore spot since its addition, what little times its stood in the spotlight very swiftly nerfed out of existence, and in the state its in, its been very cruelly power crept out in lieu of other, more reliable close range options like the SA12 and the minigun. More than anything its main gimmick of being an accuracy weapon that isnt perfectly accurate has lead to it having significant issues, and i think more than anything, that needs to go.

• Primary fire has been changed from a single projectile to a ten pellet spread. Triangular "ten pin bowling" arrangement.
• Each pellet does 10 damage each, and 100 structural each. (maybe 11-12 each but i know we want to avoid QM "kill combos, though my opinion on that is we should just let lights die fast)
• Reload now uses the "double shell" animation regardless of if the weapon has been emptied or not: speeds up general reload time when weapon isnt emptied
  This change would give the weapon more reliable consistency in combat without sacrificing its main gimmick of destruction. Failing that JUST MAKE IT PERFECTLY ACCURATE LIKE CMON

Oh and like, just make the MGL grenades explode on player contact. Like cmon, TF2 figured this shit out 17 years ago.

[worldly tulip]

Add the ability to allow people to make custom maps

It would just first be allowing a couple modifiers like only certain weapons being allowed to make fun maps like SRs or Sledges only, but only on currently existing maps, then step it up as more seasons go by and allow people to create their own map.

And to prevent cheesy contract completions, trusted creators are given special access to allow contracts to be completed in their map, instead of people just making a kill farm or cash farm map

[dense lodge]

Make matchmaking rules I’m tired of playing causally and getting sweated on by ttvs. You are making new players quit cause of this, fix it.

[novel trench]

Make matchmaking rules.
Refuses to elaborate

[vivid seal]

truly the epitome of the average message in this channel

[tranquil wave]

They need to make it where you need to be lvl 35-40 to be able to play world tour I’m tired of playing against sweats and having brand new players on my team that are lvl 16 or a little higher than 16.

[celest egret]

Or a google doc on how they think the game should be tweaked because they definitely know what's best for the game, not themselves and their playstyle

[versed gull]

Make melee viable

[sick crown]

Oh i have ease with lights and heavies it’s the mediums that are annoying i have to aim at a specific spot (and no just the abdomen is not sufficient enough) at a specific range to maybe kill them

Also my usual k/d is 4/1 no need to tell me abt aim

[hidden swan]

+1

[steady flame]

Cool if there was an event like hide and seek but and rooms are filled with smoke

[glad pike]

Hear me out:

Goop

[hazy skiff]

Horse 🐴 map

[cerulean flower]

Instead of giving players extra currency how about including the seasonal weapon skins thing with the ultimate version of the battlepass

(quite sure a lot of players will only get one of the two as they are things you usually buy at the start of the season so it would not hurt financially + make the battlepass more interesting)

[ruby timber]

Nerf revolver

[fallow epoch]

Wish that we could put sclothes on synapse coreframe and termiframe chassis

[vast obsidian]

Spending $30 to purchase a pass doesn't offer any significant advantage over the regular version. Therefore, the free option is actually the most expensive.

[left warren]

As it sits right now I think the double barrel sits a bit too close to an insta kill machine. My suggestion is to make it closer to the old doom super shot gun. Make it shoot both barrels at once make that damage better than just 1 of the shots of the current double barrel but less damage than both shots and force a reload before it can fire again.

[thick cipher]

Respectfully: No

[worldly pumice]

I think dagger is fine but +1 because i use it and i want buffs for no reason

[rustic tinsel]

When a specific weapon shows increased usage, it means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed. It’s not like it suddenly became OP and people started using it.
If you make other weapons viable, their usage will naturally go up while the usage of the previously dominant ones goes down.
Nerfs are not the only way to balance a game. Buffs are a better valid option. Instead of nerfing some weapon, buff other weapons to make them usable.

please, stop with the nonsense about nerfing dmg for the sake of Light. That doesn’t help only Light. It affects every class and ends up making weapons useless.
If you can’t kill a Light, you definitely won’t be killing Medium and Heavy. What’s meant to help Light usually ends up favoring Medium and Heavy more.

About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so needs high DPS. DB is only viable up close, and it should 2-tap Heavy. That was correct, so reverted.
The same goes for Sword. As with the DB, you need to correct the mistake here this time too. Now,Sword has the worst TTK compared to any other weapon. Even though it's a melee weapon. Sword was built around close-range and Light’s low hp. it required specific dmg combinations for each classes.so lunge was 140 dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + left click + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + left click.
This is the most ideal.

Melee weapons need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it makes sense that melee should strong up close range.
Melee dmg nerfs are just removing melee from the game. Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
Start keeping your promises.

[short cedar]

Wall hacks is the worst thing you have EVER put in the game embark

[twin helm]

i just got 2 hit by a sledge on medium idk why yall dont think melee isnt good

[solemn linden]

102% agree
there is a reason recon senses got removed after just one season - and a reason wallhacks are considered hacks. if everyone has them it doesnt make the situation any better

[potent solar]

a lot of the balance issues stem from certain weapons dominating at more than their intended range (at least given the impression to their real world conterparts). remember that distance will be cloased quickly so I think carving out ranges or scenarios where rock beats scissors clearly would help. shotguns for instance should have clear dmg fall off. getting footsteps to work would improve this for short range + invis combos.

[sharp violet]

add more fx to the iseult famas plz

[broken crest]

DEAR EMBARK TEAM
DEAR EMBARK TEAM
I have one thing to say and that is that you should buff mele weapons like heavy hammer and dagger but why are you nerfing them at all I haven't seen anyone complaining in the community except (appoh) so I ask you if you don't want to lose players to buff them in the next update thanks

[scarlet jetty]

why is it that we lost the Blazorin eyes and now its $20

[plush fjord]

Here's some Game Event Ideas, Embark. Hope they help you get a good idea of the kind of things some of us would like:

• Supercharged-- Players gain faster sprint, reload (except for certain weapons like the SMGs), and ADS speed. Sprinting reduces weapon accuracy.

• Earthquake-- Self-explanatory. Structures slowly wear down, walls and roofs start to break. Happens

• CNS Attack-- Gateways, Gravity Vortexes, Anti-Grav Cubes, Glitch Mines, Lockbolts, and all these glitchy themed gadgets suddenly start to spawn randomly in the arena. Spawn in specific areas only, like near active cashouts or vaults.

• Propane Power-- More propane (red) canisters. Every other canister turns into a propane (red) canister. Do twice the structural damage

• Flash Floods-- Basically like Floor Is Lava. Water floods the whole place, so players have to use rooftops and higher floors to transverse. Suspended structures will spawn temporarily for the event to help players traverse in open areas, and buildings that have longer distances between them will have destructible bridges between.

[hollow nexus]

Suggestion: Display the number of players currently in queue for each game mode and region, alongside the total number of players required to start a match.

[alpine summit]

Just remove CL40 at this point or make it 4 shots instead of 5

[daring remnant]

theres a "clear, using defib" voiceline where she sounds more like she says dafib not defib

[true pollen]

rework CL40 and SH1900

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the first swing damage in the combo from 65 to 70 making it 70, 80, 90 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block secondary attacks of all melee weapons (except riot shield and dual blades because both weapons have a blocking mechanic) like the sledgehammers overhead charge and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it's bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
these emojis will highlight the message so you can see them 🥇:🤠🤯😵:⚽️:grinning:😆🙃😇🫠

[prisma vault]

This would allow KS23 to combo lights again with melee which they took out when reducing winch damage down to 5 from 15. Used to be 15 + 100 + 40. I doubt they would ever bring comboing back for this weapon as fun as it was.

[long vector]

Make the pikes sight not shake so hard when u shoots it makes it harder to aim

[somber dew]

My game feedback is to start giving out warns to whoever spam copypasting their wall of suggestions

[narrow belfry]

I don’t know wtf is wrong with this game I want my RS BACK!!! there is no fkn reason I just got deducted 9k+ points from my rank when I have been playing fair and square and have done nothing fkn wrong I will be spamming customer service and ping every dev if I have too this is the second fkn time I have this unfair deduction to my points happen

[proud ocean]

We have a grenade launcher problem (between others). This game is getting out of control. Broken weapons and cheaters. Impossible to play. Absolute chaos.

[proven crown]

This event is TRASH

[kind condor]

can u nerf that fucking cl04 because it can makes ur fucking brain dead'

[hollow kelp]

no

[sweet topaz]

Please add Killcams. That way we can identify cheaters.

[cerulean echo]

When did it get Nerfed???

[frosty lava]

Heavy Specialization Concept

Brute Enhancement

Allows you to pick up arena carriables, rip out terrain. And stores it for your next use.

Pressing Q on a carriable picks it up and stores it for your next cast. Allowing you to grab it and decide if you want to throw or slam it down. Thrown carriables are thrown with considerable extra strength. Slammed carriables have extra effectiveness.

Pressing Q on terrain rips out the biggest possible chunk and stores it for your next cast. Allowing you to throw a boulder that deals significant damage.

Maybe it gives you a more powerful quick melee thats slower? Maybe.

[river plover]

Cus its damage output is exactly 0 at any other range which balances it out, it gets countered by a lot of things, and it suffers from horrible hitreg problems.

If you're getting beaten up by a sledge, try to put the cashbox in a cashout thats placed in an open area, or change the surrounding area to make it more open. Launchpads are a hard counter against melee on M, maybe give that a try

[signal basin]

CL40 is wasting all of your game since Season 6.

Embark, this time, i'm telling you, after the ULTIMATE BP, this is the first and worst move you ever did by letting CL40 like since 4 MONTHS. FOUR FKING MONTH where Medium destroying the fun in this game.

Four months where Light are getting crush in chain by this and this is pissing me off so badly ! There are 9 WEAPONS AND GADGET who can hit at 99 DMG OR MORE in your game. It's 2/3 of a Light HP !! AND I'M ONLY COUNTING BODY HIT ! It's worst if you add to this all the headshot !

ARE YOU FINALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE LIGHT CLASS ?!

OK WE UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T WANT SAME TANKY SO MAKE THEM DEADLY AT LEAST FOR FUCK SAKE !

Buff their weapons ! Buff their survability ! Do something for the worst balance class of your game ! AND SHARE US THE DATA ABOUT THEM !

[teal crag]

this must be a joke

[fresh mountain]

nerf cl40

[royal dagger]

Can we have the rank of players once the rank match is over ? Like I want to know if I loose against my rank, or 3 divisions higher

[neat yoke]

please embark...

[tacit warren]

why precompiling shaders takes so fucking long ?

[untold hazel]

just play any other class at this moment

[brisk spruce]

The nade launcher spam is terrible though, not gonna lie

[sleek topaz]

We want the sword damage back

[cedar cave]

this sounds great tbh, would be interesting to see heavy with a cannon as a specialization

[valid gate]

Can we have more moderation from Scotty and June, like them calling out when somrone destroys the bridge or saying a players name if he's got a kill streak. Or when someone defends a Cashout very well, that they'd call that or out. That'd be really cool : )
And more player stats

[deft dew]

Just wanted to say, Thank you for bringing back the original Vegas map på ranked/online play. It's so much better than the remade one. Really missed it.

[smoky gust]

map based voicelines sound really cool, when the bridge on seoul, the cathedral on monaco get destroyed or a suspended structure is dropped

maybe for moving the cashout a certain distance too?
"looks like the overdogs are taking their cashout for a walk" or something like that

[wraith igloo]

If the next patch doesn’t massively fix this game up I’m seriously out. 7 seasons and 2 betas, this is one of the worst states the game has been in. Easily 50% of matches are unplayable trash with cl40 spam, players disconnecting/crashing all over the place, game ruining wall hack event, rampant cheating, every casual mode is stale 10 lights spamming ARN, a new input system meant to fix day 1 bugs that failed on arrival, entire menu system is still a dogs breakfast.

Why are some of my key and mouse binds randomly clearing out mid match? The game crashing almost every time I close it might have something to do with it. Also this game has been out since 2023 and almost every solo queue player still has absolutely no idea how to play cashout.

Why do some teammates look like malfunctioning bots when I spectate them, are you actually backfilling with fake players already?

[dusty igloo]

Quick attack combos need to be a thing for sledge, it just increases the skill ceiling, and makes it possible to combat so much more

[tacit bough]

Make a custom tattoo that you can buy for 10k MultiBucks ($100) (more money from players that can afford it = better servers).

[untold badge]

i am new to the game and where does this wallhack come from? I only know the throwable sensor but thats not it right?

[solemn linden]

it's this weeks world tour event. in that mode during the knockout rounds every 2 minutes the whole lobby gets this wh for 30 seconds.
back in season 1 this used to be a specialization for medium which then got replaced with dematerializer because it was too op and just not fun (who wouldve thought wallhack isnt good )

[cerulean oracle]

Some changes should be made to the reporting system: players you report will no longer be matched as your teammates.
A recent example: In the first game, one of my teammates was either AFK or throwing fire at other teammates for some reason. I reported him. I played hard in that game but lost. In the second game, he was still my teammate, and it seemed like his behavior hadn't improved. I reported him again, but we still lost. In the third game, he was still my teammate, so I reported him once more, but we lost again. In the fourth game, he was still my teammate, so I quit the game.

[glacial iris]

i'd just like to say i love this game and will most likely continue to play it no matter what you guys change :)

[tame abyss]

Would love it if you guys removed the blinding lighting when looking outside from within a structure
I'd like to see what's out there when there are bullets coming from that direction

Also xbox series x has performance issues in 5v5 modes such as PS or TDM

[frozen tree]

Day 7: Here we go again (I’m sorry I keep repeating this it’s just easier than coming up with new stuff each time)

Big wishlist:
Revert sword nerf (PLEASE give it 140 lunge damage, it needs it)
Revert dagger nerf (let it backstab turrets again, and increase the angle)
Revert sledge nerf (at least the left click part)
Also with the sledge buff, nerf winch! It’s the problem!
Let riot shield block/reduce damage from explosions
Increase dual blades deflection accuracy
Increase CL-40 self damage and make the projectile slower, to allow time to react
Make breach drill faster and a maybe a bigger explosion
Bring back grenade grappling, and make it easier
Make m11 a close range option, XP a mid range one, and ARN a longer range one. Same thing with AKM, FCAR, and famas, respectively
Make heal ball work like guardian turret, not going on cooldown until destroyed/picked up and can be directly or remotely picked up, giving different levels of charge depending on which one it is
Nerf h+ healing a bit
Fix performance and freezing
Let us unlock the ultimate battlepass rewards as the $20 tier, and the 20 extra levels be part of the $30
There may be more, but this is what I think for now, and I’m open to suggestions and (constructive) criticism

[sonic arrow]

"nerf cl40"

"requires no skill" Just because a weapon doesn't have a recoil pattern, ADS, or hitscan ammo doesn't mean it requires no skill, and I'm surprised the community has failed to see the difference after SEVEN seasons for crying out loud. Positioning, movement, gadgetwork, setup, etc. ALL act as some form of skill expression outside of tracing a recoil pattern.

"increase the self damage" You need the cl40 to kill themselves for you? cl40 has one of the slowest kill times in the game, I'm pretty sure even a bad player can kill one in that time...

"pick rate is high" Obviously not higher than that of AKM/FCAR/XP or any other generic full auto. Plus the fact that cl40 is never seen in high ranks. Seriously, if y'all want a full auto meta there's like 50 CoD games you can play

"hard to react to" I can think of about 15 counters to cl40 (unlike the rest of the community apparently), but I'll name five

• High ground
• Aps turret
• Teamwork
• Simply OUTRANGING IT (its a projectile weapon)
• now that heal meta is a thing you can even OUTHEAL it for gods sake

learn how to deal with a cl40 yourself, dont wait for the devs to do it for you

[real lagoon]

I would like to see just guards on swords, daggers, and riot shields.

[modern bramble]

everyone loves to whine but y’all at embark are actually on another level. smartest minds in the industry right now, no one else is doing what you’re doing with this much precision and speed. nothing but respect to every single dev working on the finals

[nova mica]

Only thing of worth ever said in the channel. Big agree

[warped meteor]

Nerf light heals. I love that it exists, I think its the right idea, but being able to take a heavy from 5 to 350 just like that and from range is too powerful.

Maybe make it projectile or lower the fire rate drastically (or both)

[zealous pulsar]

crazy how the support class now is light. healbeam on medium has no reason to exist anymore

[gritty yoke]

is it just me or is the gernade launcher over powered

[paper meadow]

It’s just you

[lunar timber]

Please make your game modes drop more cash:
For example TDM gives 25k each round won, quick cash gives 25k too instead of 10k, and world tour and ranked final round giving 50k per cash out.

[worldly pumice]

me when i lie

[unkempt bridge]

CL40 at least for lights and even more so for melee/melee lights is extremely oppressive, especially with more than 1. Aoe that does 100 damage to a player that has 150 health and 2 spamming is brutal. I can see how it can be countered by a lot of things but at least for melee lights you don't have those options, you cant play high ground or play from a distance and if you get close they just jump and shoot at their feet, out DPSing all melee weapons. I don't really play any other class or weapon type so i cant speak for them, but for melee it is one of the most oppressive weapons with a low skill ceiling that I run into. Ideally you would want one of your teammates to counter it but a lot of us solo queue and cant rely on randoms, and its especially rampant in casual gamemodes like qc and I have heard several new players get pushed away from the game from the cl40 spam alone.

[atomic cape]

Just gotta say it. Disciple of Sound has gotta be the best gun skin so far. the songs that are played through the inspect animation actually rewind if you do the tactical reload which spins the disk backwards. Its just so peak

[novel trench]

I would appreciate the addition of a homunculus to the shooting range. I need it to shudder and shiver as we deal damage. The pain has to feel real Embark.

[calm tree]

do better, this game is full of cheaters right nowe

[icy charm]

I really like the shuffle option for skins, and i would like to see an additional option that allows you to favorite skins for you to shuffle between that way you dont have to go through all the weapon skins, just the ones you favorited

[wooden raptor]

I think the 'tournament difficulty' feature needs to be tweaked, earlier i lost 1000+ rp on an 'easy' difficulty tournament that was not easy.

[crisp timber]

When I get killed by CL40, it doesn't feel convincing compared to other weapons. They are just jumping around without using any skills, while we are always required to have the best aim and maneuverability. For this reason alone, you can see why CL40 needs a major nerf. Except for Bunny.

[rustic tinsel]

When a specific weapon shows increased usage, it means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed. It’s not like it suddenly became OP and people started using it.
If you make other weapons viable, their usage will naturally go up while the usage of the previously dominant ones goes down.
Nerfs are not the only way to balance a game. Buffs are a better valid option.

please, stop with the nonsense about nerfing dmg for the sake of Light. That doesn’t help only Light. It affects every class and ends up making weapons useless.
If you can’t kill a Light, you definitely won’t be killing Medium and Heavy. What’s meant to help Light usually ends up favoring Medium and Heavy more.

About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so needs high DPS. DB is only viable up close, and it should 2-tap Heavy. That was correct, so reverted.
The same goes for Sword. As with the DB and others you need to correct the mistake here this time too. Now, Sword has the worst TTK compared to any other weapon. Even though it's a melee weapon. Sword was built around close-range and Light’s low hp. it required specific dmg combinations for each classes.so lunge was 140 dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + m1 + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + m1.
This is the most ideal.

Quick melee combos naturally happen with all melees, and you designed them because they're necessary. It just increases the skill ceiling.

Melee weapons need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it makes sense that melee should strong up close range.
Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
Start keeping your promises.

[versed gull]

140 sword lunge? 500ms dagger stab? Why are they gone?

Who looks at the ttk of double barrel and thinks that's fine but when you're already putting yourself at a disadvantage by playing off-meta with melee you should be further punished with the worst range AND damage in the game?

It's silly, please make melee viable :(

Quick melee combos are not cheese, it's viable tech that increases the skill ceiling and allows for more skill expression. Stop taking it out of the game while still allowing for tons of exceptions on ranged weapons.

[hazy vessel]

Nerf cl40

[noble path]

Revert hammer nerf, fix the sledge bugs

[fleet quiver]

everyones saying nerf cl40, im saying remove it. every time that stupid negative iq fuckass weapon has been good the game has been horrifically unfun to play

[hazy skiff]

Add horse map and horses to the game 🐎

[cold bolt]

specifically horse girls, of the anime variety

[cobalt parcel]

Indeed but still think 30 $/euro is too much for Ultimate BP, i think 20 would be more reasonable cause its double price of the normal BP

[inner coral]

#👂┇game-feedback Make both nade launchers into gadgets with increased Arena Damage and Decreased splash damage to players. Direct hits should do A ton of damage still.
This would create more chaotic entries but less oppressive gunplay moments where 2 or 3 nade launchers just turn a room into explosion VFX and hitboxes with infinite reloads (as it is currently).

ALSO ADD A COLOUR WHEEL FOR HAIR
AND CHARGE US 50COINS TO PAINT THE HAIR.
MORE MONEY FOR YOU AND MORE OPTIONS FOR US.

(tired of waiting patiently for a specific hair colour of the same style to come out, just to realize it's on Wheel of Misfortune or a Bundle that sells a super colourful variant thats gonna be too niche to use often).

[fierce valve]

Please new events? They either do nothing or its low grav

[merry spindle]

not an original thought, but dash and wench were always the problem with sword and sledge respectively and they still remain a problem even after the melee weapons that took advantage of these specs were nerfed… sidenote: can i have a practice range training challenge where it’s just a light dashing circles around me? 🙃

[elfin badge]

make quick cash quick again! 10 sec max respawns

[topaz barn]

We need a way to turn player banners off

[sonic spoke]

They used to be the same. But it felt lame getting big $ in round 1 and 2, then fighting for all the marbles and only getting 20k.

[meager swallow]

remove the challenge to interrupt the opponents from stealing you'r cashout its annoying and require such a perfect scenario to happen its just bad awful challenge

[tulip flame]

Would we be banned for using a mod like reshade? I feel like the graphics are amazing but the lighting throws it off quite a bit

[past surge]

Increase the punishment for leaving matches to a one week ban

[oblique jay]

Buff the servers

[toxic jungle]

Those stats don't prove they were cheaters. I have a handful of games where I have those same stats compared to everyone else. You just gotta get good. 🤷‍♂️

[fickle heath]

Nerf the Ar's and buff the shotguns and melees

[crisp parrot]

Waaaaah

[potent pawn]

Increase rate of XP gained to level up data reshaper

[dreamy marlin]

Nerf the light healing gun please, nobody likes the healing meta, if it would be like a quick 100-125 healing burst it would be fine

[indigo arch]

Can we expect a Switch 2 version of the game?

[violet matrix]

The mediocre clowns of Embark are not bored with continuing to lose players? They win a few new players but they lose many old players thanks to the stupid decisions they make, it really shows that they are no longer interested in keeping the game alive.

[tender sail]

+1

Embark is the most imcometent dev team I've ever seen; There's not a single feature in this game that isn't buggy as fuck.

Revert the whole game to S1 and leave it alone

[uncut hedge]

1.3k only if u win against rubies with 50k being plat 34k is just pathetic

[drifting arch]

Please nerf the guardian turret. It does way to much damage way to quickly. It practically has aim bot, and it’s hard to destroy while fighting other teams

[arctic lichen]

CAN YOU PLEASE EXTEND THE TIME TO CASHOUT WHEN PEOPLE DOUBLE STACK THEM???? LITERALLY PEOPLE ARE FORCING DOUBLE STACK TO GO AGAINST A SPECIFIC TEAM NEXT ROUND

[harsh cliff]

Please for Christ sake remove or nerf the stupid CL, it's a joke, I can't play or have any fun in the game. I just die, like nothing. For Christ sake what is this gun are you for real !!! Please please please please please please please remove this gun. It's a joke no skill gun just auto shoot and ruin games. I am uninstalling the game, I don't wanna play while this stupid gun is in the game.

[sonic arrow]

Option to place our sticker wherever we want on our guns please

[smoky gust]

the transformation from stun gun into nullifier was a really good idea, and imo it made the game a lot healthier

perhaps the same could be done with other items?

i think turret could be such a candidate, feeling a bit underwhelming when used but still getting nerf requests

[sick crown]

Day 2 of telling embark to nerf the gren launcher of med

[drifting topaz]

NERF CL40

NERF CL40

NERF CL40

[narrow osprey]

This game is unbearable to solo que

[untold cypress]

Lol wut?? Someone tries to steal every cashout I start.🤣🤣🤣

[cinder charm]

Day 15 of asking embark to bring back bank it (and day 3 of asking embark to nerf cl-40)

[true pollen]

NERF CL40

[lilac drift]

If world tour is supposed to be a "casual mode" then why am I fighting rubies every match embark? 🤨 (add sbmm to wt)

[dire raft]

No! Please not! Finally CL40 is playable

[rich brook]

Guys, this is not a discussion forum

If you have feedback, post it but don’t reply to others as that only starts discussions and its explicitly not meant to be done here.

[crystal cave]

GIVING TRACKING DART TO HEAVY PLEASE!

[quartz cedar]

Never had issues with Sword - I got outplayed

Never had issues with Dagger - I got outplayed

Never had issues with Sledge - I got outplayed

Never had issues with Dual Blades - I got outplayed

Never had issues with Riot Shield - I got outplayed

Have issues with CL-40 - Opponent shooting ground twice and auto-winning with basically 0 mechanical input / precision required.

Side note: Winch is the reason you had to nerf the hell out of sledgehammer.
If you remove winch from the game you can give sledge all it's old stats and QM combo back.
It would also make sense in the aspect of bringing heavy specializations in line with the other two classes, having two good specializations, and one kinda meme-y / mid.

[edgy glen]

can we please stop adding sledge unfriendly map geometry

I should not have to sledge a wall/floor 2-3 times to get through to the other side

The worst offenders by far are those monitor screens and the grating the ceilings sometimes have on syshorizon/citadel

[worldly scaffold]

Dead go boom mid match event (from valentine), where is it? Bring back Dead go boom.
Also low gravity, I would tone it down a bit, it's ok event, but is a bit too much atm, just make it half the effect.

[digital shell]

where can i post players who hack and report them?

[ionic grail]

Season 7 is arguably the most apathetic I’ve felt about the game since Season 3.

Genuinely impressive how we’ve gone backwards in balance, backwards in performance, backwards in Server Stability and backwards in Spawns.

Look I genuinely do understand how difficult it is to keep live service running, and with a game with so many moving parts it’s okay if certain things get left behind but the fact we’re almost a MONTH into the season with awful server latency, bad Hitreg, bad in game performance and an overwhelming amount of radio silence it’s genuinely worrying how this is going.

The three week cycle for balancing isn’t working, things that are very obviously negatively affecting the meta / game itself should be addressed in hotfixes etc, you can’t solely rely on “Data” to balance a game. You know that CL40, Pike, SH1900, H+ Infuser have all been insanely overtuned for far too long and I genuinely don’t think waiting 3 weeks is enough anymore.

We’ve been wanting mediums to be toned back up in the support department and you do everything but buff mediums supporting specs and instead you basically make an entire spec feel worse than a Gadget… like seriously in what world is it balanced that light gets a Gadget that completely outperforms a spec with basically NONE of the drawbacks.

The games starting to feel stale, there’s no new specs, we barely get 3 weapons and 3 gadgets a season (it’s either one or the other) we’ve had no new spec in 4 Seasons, we’ve had no new Mid Round Events in FIVE seasons, we’ve not had changes that actually positively affecting Cashout in 2 seasons, we’ve not had changes to Ranked in 3 Seasons either.

Like embark I truly and honestly mean this… what the actual fuck are we doing. I get the major is like 4 months away and you want eyes on that, Christ so do I, but the fact we’ve been getting less and less content, with less and less communication, with less and less stability it’s just making me wonder what the absolute fuck is going on.

[sonic arrow]

"nerf cl40"

"requires no skill" Just because a weapon doesn't have a recoil pattern, ADS, or hitscan ammo doesn't mean it requires no skill, and I'm surprised the community has failed to see the difference after SEVEN seasons for crying out loud. Positioning, movement, gadgetwork, setup, etc. ALL act as some form of skill expression outside of tracing a recoil pattern.

"increase the self damage" You need the cl40 to kill themselves for you? cl40 has one of the slowest kill times in the game, I'm pretty sure even a bad player can kill one in that time...

"pick rate is high" Obviously not higher than that of AKM/FCAR/XP or any other generic full auto. Plus the fact that cl40 is never seen in high ranks. Seriously, if y'all want a full auto meta there's like 50 CoD games you can play

"hard to react to" I can think of about 15 counters to cl40 (unlike the rest of the community apparently), but I'll name five

• High ground
• Aps turret
• Teamwork
• Simply OUTRANGING IT (its a projectile weapon)
• now that heal meta is a thing you can even OUTHEAL it for gods sake

learn how to deal with a cl40 yourself, dont wait for the devs to do it for you

[indigo thorn]

ngl instead of nerfing everything to the ground, here : nerf all grenade launchers (let's be real here for a sec you don't need to aim with this since explosions do the trick) and buff back the medium weapons, nerf the healing ball and if it's still unbalanced, just buff the health of everyone, come on this ain't xdefient we don't have to die in 5 shots, half the heavy guns are shit, the only viable guns for medium are the cl40 (aka the noob launcher) and the famas and for light melee is bad and that "fastest ttk" is only real if you mostly hit headshots but in a situation where you are surrounded by heavies or cl40 fanatics, you can't aim for the head

[zinc palm]

I still know a lot of people put off by the use if AI in this game and i do see it as a blemish on an otherwise very good and unique game

[solid slate]

people killing themselves with rocket launchers, cl40, etc should still reward kills to the last person that damaged them

[north eagle]

the dagger's stab animation kinda covers the screen, but if you try to stab again, you get a different animation where the knife is held over your head. that one takes up less of the screen, and looks cooler. could that be the first stab animation? (cuz i want to see my target)

[analog glacier]

NERF CL40!

[vocal nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/engineer-tf2-team-fortress-2-dance-dancing-gif-16687770357870666155

[green cliff]

SH1900 needs a rework. Y'all can't tell me that just because light has 100 hp less than a medium it's okay to 2 shot everyone else while medium's closest comparison can't even reliably kill a medium in 3 shots

[steel zodiac]

People screaming nerf cl40 are bad at this game. Please go make a recording of you playing with it. I’d love to see you get wrecked over and over.

[dull tiger]

If the range is less then 30 m with cl40 I agree

[dire swallow]

SOCIAL SUGGESTION : Can we get a notification sound when we receive an invite to join a party ? If you are ALT TAB out of the game you never see them.

Also, will we be able to send a message to someone anytime, like in LoL even if they are in game, it creates a direct channel for talking with the person.

Friendlist actually feels clunky because you have to WAIT for someone to be just out of a match and** LOOKING AT THE LOBBY to get their attention**...

I have friends only in The Finals friendlist since Steam friendlist is a different one, and communicating with the other players is TEDIOUS AS F, you have to wait them to be in the same lobby to talk to them. How do i plan a group ? I cant, everyone has their different clubs, so no club talk, and so on...

[hearty hatch]

Other than fixing melee, please consider redesigning your SPAWN algorithm. 3rd partying has been absolutely bonkers since S6, and whatever you did for S7 has made it worse. I don't mind 3rd-partying, but the current situations have teams being stacked on top of each other almost every cashout, leaving one team to just sit and take a free point. I've experienced matches where teams are stacked on one site up to 4+ times, back to back, which shouldn't happen, imo.

Additionally, if a team gets wiped, but maintains possession of a Cashout box until they respawn/reset (perhaps due to 3rd partying, etc.),** they should ALWAYS spawn back closer to their owned cashout.** I've had multiple instances where we maintained a cashbox through our respawn timer, and get placed near an enemy-owned cashout even though we still have possession of our own. And the owned box is over 150-200m away? What sense does that make?

Something is VERY unbalanced with spawns.

[grand carbon]

A double speed active event or reverse speed like a light is as slow as a heavy and vice versa would be interesting 🤔

[bold ocean]

Day 3 of asking embark to fix their servers and hit registration

[thick sorrel]

at least remove Winch Claw's Stun Effect!

@sterile canopy @clear lintel Because Stun Gun got reworked for a reason. But Winch Claw's free kill is ok?

[zinc pier]

the HUD toggle keybind really needs to be fixed. first of all, you should be able to rebind it in the mnk settings, however it's not even shown in the gameplay tab. the "hide/show HUD" bind in the spectator tab is a different keybind for a different state in the game, so changing that doesn't do anything. as of right now, the hud toggle is this weird 'secret' button that has no indication of its existence unless you happen to stumble upon it in game by accidentally fat fingering F10. or is it F12?

I don't even know anymore, because of the worst problem about this feature. the bind randomly decides to disable itself after the first time, or maybe first few times you press it, and it just never works again. I don't understand what kind of spaghetti code went into this one button to make it this frusterating for no reason. it almost feels like the game is gaslighting you. first it doesn't let you know you a hud toggle bind exists in the first place, then it throws you for a loop when you accidentally figure out it does, and then it hides it from you when you figure out what you actually did

[sterile canopy]

I very strongly disagree with this. It would make it actively bad as a combat tool.

[clear lintel]

then its lowkey useless why would you pull someone who is going to probably kill you on their way😂

[spiral comet]

If I wanna win in WT without having to think I just use cl40 + gas mine and farm easy kills. I dont know where the skill part of the gun is but I would sure like to see you try and make an argument for that

[spare rapids]

Remove revive statues from TDM to prevent defib griefng. Thanks.

[jagged vector]

I havnt played ranked in while and started again and honestly world tour is better than ranked, including the rewards

[rain axle]

i've just been having fun runnin quick cash, this server doesn't make me exited to interact with people tho

[versed gull]

Finding people In-game is pretty easy, lots of friendly players on console

[raw geode]

you know why i like the cl40? cuz it can make holes without any tools and with some range

[gritty turtle]

Skill based matchmaking does not take 7+ seasons to add

[wind meteor]

THE CL40 IS PLAGING THE FUCKING GAME and ruining it!!! i never abandon a match willingly, but I m doing it more and more because of that fuckin weapon ruining everything: splash damage on groups, detonating every defense, getting kills by chance... the self damage penalty should not be 1.2 only!!! if the player got one shot at you, before you reach them (if you have melee or shotguns), they can spam the ground and they'd be safe. Not only the penalty should be brought back to 1.6, it should be 2. I was never enraged by a weapon since the beginning of season 2 (when i started playing until now), except the CL40!!!

@gritty turtle it won't happen. it only matters in ranked, and elo is basically it. Any type of SBMM is frowned upon by the playerbase in all other games using any SBMM.

[frosty notch]

and the way the new event pops up so much in one game…. @austere drum

[sacred siren]

Sbmm? Ranked has been in the game since s1.

[broken crest]

DEAR EMBARK TEAM
DEAR EMBARK TEAM
I have one thing to say and that is that you should buff mele weapons like sword hammer and dagger but why are you nerfing them at all I haven't seen anyone complaining in the community except (appoh) so I ask you if you don't want to lose players to buff them in the next update thanks

[untold venture]

Even then ranked is only very loosely RS matchmade, because of the seeding system (dogshit idea for any comp games) you can and will be matchmade with teams that are way above your skill level, which isn’t an issue for me personally but i think you can see why some people would avoid ranked because of this, if you are even barely in plat you have a very high chance to play against at least 1 team with top 500 players in it, more often than not 2 teams, you obviously do not lose much rs if you are seeded low but that doesn’t make it any better, plats should not play against top 500 players at all, and in other games that idea would be absolutely unilaterally hated by the community

[mild wave]

Make us able to select favorite skins for the guns skin randomizer, maybe we wanna play with one specific set of skins and not our entire skin inventory.

[ember ridge]

FIX CL40 ALREADY!!!!

[austere drum]

I agee, I am not a fan of the way the screen looks with the new event. very distracting

[simple ether]

Why does every other match have a kid who is AFK for the entire match? And why doesnt Embark do anything about this constant issue?

[proud skiff]

Cosmetic Idea:

Please RESKIN the winch with the silly sticky hand toy. you will sell so much and make money.

[thorny apex]

there needs to be something to prevent teams from essentially choosing to lose and bring another team with them

[true harness]

Please bring quick chat back after death.

[wary flax]

Nerf Double Barrel, remove and never re add Recon Senses game event, nerf light hp regen

[pine latch]

Buff AKM for Damage Range.

[golden badger]

Cosmetic Idea for Light gadget : try a Jungle Blowgun for the Tracking Dart 🙂

[celest egret]

Lovely game feedback✅️

[real wyvern]

Please buff the AKM mag capacity back to what it was before, since it was the entire reason why people chose to run with it.

Heal beam needs a buff to not be a sorry excuse of a specialisation in comparison to the healing gadgets of other classes. I mean... the game even hints at medium being the healing/support class and yet it is by far the weakest at it.

Thank you.

[robust pagoda]

Data reshaper should reshape the mesh shield if user is inside of the mentioned mesh.

[craggy otter]

DAILY REPLY.

[wooden sand]

make cl40 grenades bounce?

[thick niche]

Please make it possible to change the eyes on the face of Arch Rival (anime face) from the list of normal ones, I just want to change the color of the eyes on this face

[drifting leaf]

can you add a (send someone on your friends list a message?) please 🙂

[lament grail]

An option for PS5 client to toggle the OS’ gyro auto-calibration settings so the console doesn’t drift my gyro 3 seconds every time I recoil control the AKM pattern. Much appreciated

[spice zenith]

Nerf CL-40, low skill ceiling for people who can't aim, hit floor and win strategy, APS shouldn't be a requirement for every match.

Who cares about ranked?

[wicked ocean]

grenade launchers should be NERFED into the ground. AOE will NEVER be fun to play against in the finals. the counter, is to spread out. when i think about that for more than 2 seconds, i realize it is antithetical to the very basics of teamplay that is required to succeed in cashout. basically, its a very dumb mechanic to try and force into this game and should be treated accordingly. "fun" is NOT a valid reason to leave these weapons as viable picks. oh.... and delete kyoto.

[sand mauve]

Cash out needs another rework holding and winning the first two boxes then losing the last box shouldn’t knock you for top 2 advancing teams

[dusty igloo]

Quick attack combo's need to be a thing for melee weapons. It raises the skill ceiling, the short range and few damaging frames doesn't make it free. Nerf the winch, that was people's issues, bring back the damage on sword and sledge.

[drifting topaz]

• NERF CL40

• NERF DOUBLE BARREL

[autumn oyster]

I think that half of my matches at ~25k+ RP is just a completely unbalanced mess. It keeps matching me with players who have 10-17k less RP, while I’ve never had a teammate even 4k higher than me. Lobbies are full of smurfs and Diamonds playing in squads, just stomping solo Silver/Gold players and griefing every match by doubling cash and focusing specific teams.
I wish that one day I could enjoy a balanced and fair Ranked mode in this incredible game, instead of being placed in such an unfair conditions

• Reduce the number of rounds for top-2000 players from 3 to 2, so there’s no need to fill lobbies with low-ranked solo players, and only 12 players instead of 24 will be required for such matches (Dota 2 has specific rules in ranked mode for a few top thousands of players)
• Split lobbies between full teams and solo/duo players, so there’s no advantage for those playing in a party against solos. Even Ruby players could play solo or duo if they will face same type of opponents without needing to be fully stacked with other Ruby players in a party to abuse advantage
• Limit the difference between any player in a lobby to be 5k max. This is Ranked mode, not a casual deathmatch for playing with friends of totally different ranks

[rotund gust]

Little things the game needs.

Effects customisation option

1 more contestant slot so we have 3 of each

Being able to favourite items so we can pick our random skins

RANDOM CHARMS AND STICKERS

Some rewards for leveling up. All you get after 80 is a badge number

Rewards like the charms and stickers you get from leveling up grapple for all specialisations and equipment like the turret

A turret skin where Nama Tama is sitting on top so it looks like he is manning the turret and shooting people

[limpid forge]

Add an option to trade 5000 equipment points for 1 battlepass level (to those below me, CL-40 doesn't need nerf but also please dont buff it)

[crisp parrot]

Don't nerf the CL40 it struggles as is. Please buff other options or light will become too dominant

[wide void]

CL-40 is OBSOLETED at its skill ceiling. You don't even need APS to fight it -- it just makes it even easier.

A player who can aim CL-40 perfectly could also aim Repeater, Pike, Revolver, or Model well enough to the point where they would more quickly and consistently kill every class in the game. This is why nobody in Ruby uses CL-40.

As @crisp parrot said, BUFF THE USELESS WEAPONS BEFORE NEEDLESSLY NERFING MORE.

[crude saffron]

I'm returning once again to say remove the AI voices in the game and hire proper actors. That is all

[sonic arrow]

WHY AM I PLAYING RUBIES IN PLACEMENT MATCHES

[glass fjord]

player count is potatoe

[spice stag]

performance this update is awful

[hazy skiff]

Horse map and horses and horse cosemetics, Horse season please

[lusty cloud]

Your mind is about to be blown when i tell you how they trained and got samples for the AI....

[tender sail]

I'm returning once again to say remove the entire Embark dev team and hire proper developers. That is all

[sonic arrow]

"nerf cl40"

"requires no skill" Just because a weapon doesn't have a recoil pattern, ADS, or hitscan ammo doesn't mean it requires no skill, and I'm surprised the community has failed to see the difference after SEVEN seasons for crying out loud. Positioning, movement, gadgetwork, setup, etc. ALL act as some form of skill expression outside of tracing a recoil pattern.

"increase the self damage" You need the cl40 to kill themselves for you? cl40 has one of the slowest kill times in the game, I'm pretty sure even a bad player can kill one in that time...

"pick rate is high" Obviously not higher than that of AKM/FCAR/XP or any other generic full auto. Plus the fact that cl40 is never seen in high ranks. Seriously, if y'all want a full auto meta there's like 50 CoD games you can play

"low skill floor" Just because it has large aoe does not mean its "easy" to play. you have to work around the niche the weapon has and incorporate movement to make sure you stay alive. Alas, with a GUN, you memorize a recoil pattern and learn to strafe. There isnt really a difference here in how "easy" certain weapons are to pick up in this situation

"hard to react to" I can think of about 15 counters to cl40 (unlike the rest of the community apparently), but I'll name five

• High ground
• Aps turret
• Teamwork
• Simply OUTRANGING IT (its a projectile weapon)
• now that heal meta is a thing you can even OUTHEAL it for gods sake

learn how to deal with a cl40 yourself, dont wait for the devs to do it for you

[turbid mortar]

Is there ANY rhyme or reason to how cosmetics are grouped together?

[uncut hedge]

so when ew update to nerf the infuser?

[austere wing]

The game is pretty unbalanced and nerfing is not the solution. CL-40 is perfectly fine, there just needs to be options that are more viable than it. I think melee in general needs as buff, and aps needs a buff. Revert the sledge nerf, as it completely takes away from the whole point of melee: strong in its range. It’s easy to counter melee, just stay away from it. I agree that sword was too strong, and where it’s at is fine now.

Suggestion for sh1900:
Keep the damage, just have a backstab mechanic. The damage now is what you deal when you shoot them from behind, and deal 60-75% from the front, making it a stealth weapon. It’s powerful right now because you can simply dash at your opponent and shoot them twice, and use goo to run away.

I don’t think you, embark, realize that nerfing weapons will just shift the meta. Right now, the meta is in the worst possible place historically. M11/SH1900 and CL-40 are known to be complained about when in meta. Don’t nerf M11 or CL-40, just give the playerbase an alternate playstyle. These weapons will still be used, which is good, but not as much, and there will be more variety, which is the purpose of the finals.

[sudden spire]

TDM timer ends too soon. So many matches end at 2600 to 2700 instead of letting it play out and seeing who makes it to 3000 first. why is the timer so short? why have a timer at all? very frustrating: #🔴┇media-chat message

[frank holly]

I feel like the complaints about the CL40 isn't about it being overpowered in terms of stats or whatever, it's the fact that it's farking annoying.

[echo radish]

BUFF CL-40

[bold ocean]

Bruh after game feedback is pointless because even after saying bad team coordination its still putting me with the same effing bad people. Why

[jagged vector]

A big reason for the big differences is because not enough people are playing ranked, world tour offers better rewards in my opinion

[remote loom]

good game

[frank gull]

I recently discovered Drift0r plays The Finals & something he recommended was taking inspiration from mechanics in games like LoL where if you get damaged by fire you would take significantly less heal ( or even none) for a period of time.

Fire damage can be balanced(at times), but there's a lot of ways to cheese it.
I think pyro nade & mines should do significantly less damage, also maybe environmental fire would do No damage, just activate The Healing disability.
I think Flamethrower should be the best fire item in the game doing high damage, & creating a healing disability.

Making a nest you can set on fire will always be OP AF until some change is brought to fire.

[magic stratus]

Please for the love of god, turn off the modifier that makes Moving Platform a higher priority for final rounds

[analog fog]

just another season of embark riding light wieners. classic finals. i mean, giving them healing capabilities? And heavy can heal too? wtf. Medium is obsolete at this point.

[wind narwhal]

It's literally so insane to penalize me in ranked for my teammates leaving. Second time in a row this has happened. This is such an easy change to make and it still hasn't been done. Why should I be punished for flaky teammates? Fix your game.

[zenith cape]

its not happening lmao

[ornate sage]

Day 4 of asking embark to please add more outfit slots. I want to spend more money, thank you.

[neon sphinx]

cl-40 needs a remaster maybe a portal gun or something. too op to keep as is but you cant just get rid of it

or maybe some kind of charge up railgun. itll be the bow for mediums

[vocal nimbus]

Hello, chat

[paper meadow]

I’m pretty staunchly anti AI too but if I’ve understood what’s been said so far they pay folks to come in and do bespoke training for their commentator system, a job not so dissimilar to recording regular lines. And far as I can tell character voices and voices in trailers are nearly 100% not AI.

This is kinda as ethical as it can get. And it makes it really quick and easy for in game lines to wrap around new content. Doing bespoke recordings every three weeks to get someone to say two words probably isn’t super cost efficient, this works fine and everyone is compensated for their time.

🤷‍♂️

[frozen tree]

Hey I know I’ve been saying this in my daily big wishlist but can we please at the very least let dagger backstab turrets again? It’s not very fun when I see a triple medium team all running turrets and I have to slowly take them out slash by slash, especially considering I usually have to do some positioning bullshit so I don’t get killed by said turrets. Having turret (and other object) backstabs in the game was not something anybody complained about, and it was nice qol for people who ran dagger

[wary flax]

NERF WINCH CLAW RANGE

[restive trail]

NERF CL40

[lofty hornet]

Reiterating how awful the wall hacks event is. Please don't ever do this again.

[normal gyro]

Honestly I feel like those should be seen as drawbacks for running dagger instead... No idea why backstabbing goo or turrets could be seen as a feature when it really doesn't make any sense and felt more like an oversight. I like melee too but Idk I don't agree on this one

[drifting isle]

please buff battlepass tokens

[analog glacier]

NERF CL40

DELETE KYOTO MAP

[wispy ivy]

horrible take, if something has a back you should be able to backstab it with the backstab weapon

[steel zodiac]

Geez the amount of things in this game that aren’t the cl40 that tons of people find annoying is…lots.

[soft meadow]

Please turn off the shitty blue effect during xpose. It's not necessary and makes it impossible to see, especially in the dark, indoor areas of the new map.

[fleet quiver]

buff cl40 remove self damage and up the damage to 350 so it can one shot heavies too, it's just not good enough in the meta it's not like 8 out of 12 people in the lobby are running this fuck ass weapon

[grave bane]

Can you change how throwing knives work. Being spammed knives is annoying

[quartz shell]

make smoke more fair, the 50% of the time I cant see while im inside of my own smoke but the enemies can see through

[arctic latch]

do the training bots in the big box arena thing have perfect aim or am I just horrible at this game?

[drifting pawn]

frequently encounter an issue where certain seemingly random keys don't register in chat. H and C are examples that I can remember. hitting Windows key and going back into the game seems to let them register again

[crisp parrot]

@sonic arrow Yeah this is all true and the arguments for nerfing the CL40 are pretty bad. Embark is going to show their true colors next patch. Do they really balance around whatever lights are currently crying about or are they trying to make good and varied gameplay options viable?

[feral ferry]

NEVER bring back XPOSE please.

[ruby dew]

BUFF SWORD BUFF MELE!!!!!

[visual bronze]

PLEASE NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER ADD THIS STUIPED EVENT AGAIN

[ebon kindle]

Probably the second option but fret not, for thats why it was added

[sturdy garnet]

can i, a gold rank player not get all my matches against diamonds and emeralds please?

[feral shard]

Day 32 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)

It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes

It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex

Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it

(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)

[main quest]

DO NOT NERF IT

[sonic arrow]

Bro I got rubies in placement TWICE, put my rank hella low cos ofc I lost to em

[drifting topaz]

• NERF CL40

• NERF DOUBLE BARREL

• NERF HEALS

[verbal kayak]

Okay, until this recruiting smurf thing is fixed, I think I may be done with ranked. I duo with someone and every single game we are up against at least 4-5 smurfs with at least one full 3 stack of smurfs, level 13-25 ish who are completely decked out in battlepass cosmetics, completely smashing the one solo person on my team (who is usually a new player), and my duo. These low levels are all toxic whales who spam emotes and stuff so they're obviously not new. The healing meta sucks, the CL40 is way too oppressive, and overall this season has been a massive dissapointment. I'm really sad because the ranked cashout format is a lot of fun, but the matchmaker and smurfs make it completely unplayable for us as of late.

[robust cradle]

I love this game so much!
All i ask is for the ability to pass group leader in the lobby and to be able to tell which kockout round it is in your tab menu while playing ranked/World Tour. TY!

[tiny atlas]

lol

[brittle cedar]

everyone complaining about this event when they probably dont remember recon sense back in the day lmao

[hollow fable]

make it so that each new character you make or each class gets different keybinds

[charred rover]

Cl40 is more disruptive than stun gun was.
Just remove it from the game and rework it.

Suggestion is to make it a destruction focused gadget like RPG, 3 shots totalling 100dmg but can break walls more easily than now

[tribal spoke]

I think we should apply the same effect to the dual blades, like a bleed or something which causes enemies to heal less

[finite dirge]

i think it would be nice to add a "randomize" button while in the style tab, not like the weapons that change in game but while making stuff

[hot lagoon]

hell yeah

[untold willow]

nerf cl40, its not OP just annoying, if we nerf XP bc of that than only deserving that we nerf CL too

[random bronze]

I have a really good idea for a medium gadget. ill be posting everyday about it untill it gets recognized. So think Just Cause 3/4. I think that there should be a gadget that has 2 deployable jet thrusters that are pretty small. They would interact with cashouts and other items. they push in whatever direction they were placed in and you can have a remote to activate them and deactivate them until the fuel is depleeted. Medium has needed a new gadget for a WHILE. Im someone who plays a lot with dematerializer, and that adds a lot of vertical gameplay with the cashout. you can move it down or up with jumpads and what not. but there is almost NO horizontal play in this game (around the OBJ at least) i think this would GREATLY add to the game and provide an entirely new way to play this game.

[grand crow]

I'm really looking forward to Thursday's update, it seems like it's going to be packed!

Insert obligatory begging for new specs in season 8, better to start asking early

[proud skiff]

Sticky toy hand skin for Winch Claw when.

[fading cobalt]

There needs to be an option where if something like a Barricade/Breach Drill are aimed at an invalid placement, it snaps to the nearest available one. Maybe tie it into a "hold-to-place" option where instead of having to mash to place it, it'll automatically place as soon as a valid spot is selected while holding the button down.

[odd sparrow]

Who thought Project Xpose was a good idea? This is why I chose CNS!

[frigid marten]

hey guys, i came back to the game about 3 months ago and got all of my friends back into it, but i have two glaring issues i'm desperately trying to figure out and a reddit post didn't even get a comment, just a few likes.... im wondering if anyone else has a similar issue or (amazingly) a solution. A.) when i send a message in chat, it appears seconds to minutes later if at all. B.) when queueing with my friends, we receive an error message that I (me specifically) have been disconnected from the queue, it takes several queue attempts to get in -- I don't have issues like this on any other game, I've tried solutions in settings and basic troubleshooting like reinstalling

[cyan sable]

Could we have a very simple customisation option for sights? I want to be able to change the color of the sights from black to any color to match the skin I'm using.
(ignore the bad photoshop)

[dry urchin]

nerf every light weapon mainly the m11 and buff sledge, im heavy and the light shoots me 1-2 seconds and im dead. maybe i just had hard luck

[wooden atlas]

Breach drill needs a buff. At this point there is no reason to bring it instead of demat. I don’t know what it needs but it needs something

[south venture]

I would love to have extra red dots/reticles to use as well

[pine frigate]

Add job applications as a throwing knife skin

[rough shell]

just got put into three backfills in a row and called trash in each one before even one minute went by. Fix that however you need to

[round crest]

Why isn’t my aim assist working on PlayStation even though it’s on in settings

[unreal zodiac]

pls fix my lovely spear

[hazy skiff]

Buff melee

[slow root]

Fix the hacking situation. Since the start of this season theres been a lot of hackers in ranked games.

[digital mulch]

What's wrong with it?

[vagrant fossil]

is there a chance we will fix the RS loss when people abandon matches before they even start

[hot imp]

Spam gestures and make enemies self deaths count as kill if we dealt damage to them

[lapis basin]

What were you guys thinking adding wall hacks!??!!! GARBAGE

[normal gyro]

Ability to create 'Groups' in friends list so that we can organize them. So like for example I've been travelling so I have friends in NA but also friends in OCE. It'd be real nice to organize them so I know who is from where and I know who I can actually play with

[glass orbit]

Fix the bug where whenever we respawn we sometimes just cant move please :c

[hallow wyvern]

BUFF everything so no one complains 😭

Also we need the ability to invite friends without being the party leader,
And send messages to a friend without being in the lobby with him

[worldly pumice]

Honestly I think sword is still in an okay spot after playing with it for a bit, lunge damage should be buffed up to 110 at least given how fast other lights can kill you but the major upside to sword is how maneuverable you can be with it and how fast you can go in and out of engagements compared to other weapons and that's what i think a lot of people don't take into account and only factor in raw damage numbers and nothing else when complaining about sword.
Given this, I think sword should exist outside of the dash sword combination, like making the lunge movement techs much easier to do for more buildcrafting variety and so you're not obligated to take dash.

[topaz token]

Seems to be some kind of bug with crossbody (and maybe sometimes upper back?) cosmetic options not actually being applied after they’re saved. It seems like they show up in the small preview image, but not actually on the character

Also, there’s something weird going on between the signature sticker and trying to get the sticker you chose for that to show up on weapons.

[broken geyser]

The ranked system needs desperate change. Although I think the seed system is a little unfair I propose three solutions to the underlying ranked issues.

1. Award players extra RS or ranked points for personal performance ie. Eliminations, assists, damage, support etc. Obviously not a significant amount but maybe a percentage increase for a win and less ranked points lost if performed well but resulted in a loss. (This is especially taking into account the poor ques such as golds matching up with diamonds)

2. Increase rs points for the amount of cash deposited(on top of the rs earned for wins). This will effectively eliminate the third party issue, especially in the last cash out. This is because this will incentive the leading team to compete for the cashout without doubling to support the team in last place.

3. This one is more so an alternative to solution 2. That is to reduce the amount of cash in the last cashbox after the timer runs out so last place won't unfairly place 1st with the 1st place teams support. Ideally solution 2 and 3 must be implemented together.

[gleaming gust]

2 quality of life features:

the ability to change sights from the practice range so you can test them out

add the round number to the scoreboard in ranked and WT

[leaden shell]

anyone saying there is sbmm in this game is full of shit cause both my teammates were brand new to the game and it was like a 1v3 every team fight

[unborn garnet]

When the HECK is the server buff dropping?

[odd plover]

When using UU Accelerator and Steam Community_302, I am unable to launch The Finals. Specifically, after clicking "Play" on the Steam page, the anti-cheat window pops up and loads, but after loading completes, the game window does not appear. Instead, the process terminates directly. Steam does not show the game as "In-Play," and restarting does not resolve the issue.
Although The Finals can be launched without using any network proxy tools, it is impossible to open and run Steam and launch The Finals without network proxy tools under Chinese network conditions.

[simple field]

The grenade launcher should have team damage on.

[true pollen]

When the sky is the only background players are almost invisible due to thermal vision. During rooftop combat or when viewed from below characters blend into the bright sky because thermal highlights them in white. They effectively become invisible when there are no background components. Thermal vision is supposed to increase visibility but in these circumstances it actually makes things worse. This may be a deliberate design but it feels counterintuitive.

[livid pivot]

Either check the cheating reports or give us a kill cam ASAP!

[fickle linden]

What's the issue?

[dusty igloo]

Nerf winch so hard, thats where peoples issues are, its the most infuriating gadget to go up against

[paper meadow]

Slow inconsistent payouts. Sometimes winning a match of WT gives you 1 and sometimes it gives you 4. Sometimes backfilling and winning a losing game of powershift gives you none and sometimes it gives you 3. I’ve even backfilled into a game of TDM I almost immediately lost without having the chance to do anything and it gave me 1 ticket, while I’ve played entire matches that netted me zero. Eh? Just should consistent, the current system doesn’t seem to be working properly.

[pine garden]

Jus wanted to tell all ya'll at Embark, you really did out do yourself this season. I love it "THIS" much

[twilit sand]

please make a mic a requirement for ranked. it would make the soloq experience much better.

[nova mica]

Uh yeah there literally isn’t SBMM in this game… no one is claiming that. Except ranked. Go play ranked if you want to play with people your skill level.

[terse slate]

The CL40 Meta is such a big misstep. Lights are literally out of the game because of CL40 Meta and the Recon Senses Event. I get that you dont like Lights but even I as a Heavy Main must say this is not good. This feels like you stomp on somebody who was crawling to safety just to pull him out again and throw him into an iron maiden. :/

oh and just to add... the double barrel is in a dumb position too.. too much dmg / nerfing cerb and model and not DB is meh

[quasi delta]

Day 12 of waiting until Embark is compliant with 2025 EU consumer protection guidelines.

[harsh cliff]

Day two of telling embark to nerf CL 40, please as a light I die with two hits, please how is this fair?!!!

[versed gull]

Make melee viable

[median moat]

I don't know if this is just a me problem but lately I've had cashout steal attempts which I can't hear the alarm of for a good amount of time.

One moment I thought I was in the clear, but then right after I can hear the alarm going off, have a lot less time at my hand than anticipated to intercept the cashout.

[hazy skiff]

Buff melee

[shy token]

Tac vest cosmetic

As a crossbody item!

We already have bullet slings, harnesses, sling bags, and freaking wrestling belt - so why not tac vests which can cover some to next to nothing of the upper body (see attached examples).

This is such a simple thing that could spice up the customisation of our contestants. Hell, if there was a bundle with different colors (tan, black, camo whatever) it can could make a killing too.

But most importantly, it adds variety to a game stagnant with tacticool upper bodies; these could add flavour to a freaking t-shirt or hoody that no one has thought of using because it's just not cool on its own.

We have outfits that are literally a shirt or top with tac vest or harness, yes. But they are locked together. I want the harness to be available on its own with near unlimited options.

THE FINALS already provides so much variety, and the #🔥┇drip-check is proof of that. So why not add some more to it?

[autumn oyster]

Decided to play the first solo Ranked match of the day and got matched against a squad of the top-1, top-2, and top-22 players. Solo 30k players are being matched with trios made up of the best players in the world, this is insane. Of course, they griefed the match and boosted a squad with a 0.2 KD to the next round. No balance, no fun. Sad to see no improvements to Ranked over several seasons

• Reduce the number of rounds for top-2000 players from 3 to 2
• Split lobbies between full teams and solo/duo players
• Limit the difference between any player in a lobby to be 5k max

[ripe cloak]

just win playerbase isn’t big enough to make the lobbies balanced so get better and beat them

[hazy vessel]

Nerf cl40

[tidal radish]

#bug it seems for me that there could be a bug with #focallenghtscaling. Without I seem to get better aim assist instead of minimal on #Ps5 ty

[green cliff]

Sure. At the same time why not buff the SH1900 to 400 damage and buff the evasive dash to have only 1 second cooldown. Just bumrush the CL40 or break line of sight.

[small ivy]

Hello Embark team, I think this opinion will be important to you
of course, how else 🙂

I think that a weapon like sh1900 in the "weapon" slot looks very strange. It is too unstable for beginners, which is why beginners almost never play with it, and it is very strong in the hands of pro players, so much so that if you start a shootout with it, then you have 0 chances to win it. The weapon is not suitable for competitive discipline and especially for eSports. I think that this weapon can feel good in the gadget or specialization slot, if you give it some kind of conditional rocket jump or another creative feature

[frozen tree]

Day 8: Here we go again (I’m sorry I keep repeating this it’s just easier than coming up with new stuff each time)

Big wishlist:
Revert sword nerf (PLEASE give it 140 lunge damage, it needs it)
Revert dagger nerf (let it backstab turrets again, and increase the angle)
Revert sledge nerf (at least the left click part)
Also with the sledge buff, nerf winch! It’s the problem!
Make it easier for riot shield to block explosions
Increase dual blades deflection accuracy
Make CL-40 harder to use, it’s too easy for the reward it can give
Make breach drill faster and a maybe a bigger explosion
Bring back grenade grappling, and make it easier
Make m11 a close range option, XP a mid range one, and ARN a longer range one. Same thing with AKM, FCAR, and famas, respectively
Make heal ball work like guardian turret, not going on cooldown until destroyed/picked up and can be directly or remotely picked up, giving different levels of charge depending on which one it is
Nerf h+ healing a bit
Fix performance and freezing
Let us unlock the ultimate battlepass rewards as the $20 tier, and the 20 extra levels be part of the $30
There may be more, but this is what I think for now, and I’m open to suggestions and (constructive) criticism

[north eagle]

I think the music selector is broken. it only gives me the current music, unless i switch the music off and on again every single time I'm at the menu

[analog glacier]

NERF CL40!

[verbal cairn]

Shak50 and winch does a little too much damage

[fringe hatch]

Nerf CL40

[misty rock]

I'd guess that the player is in China. steamcommunity-302 is a reverse proxy tool to access Steam Community in mainland china, and uu accelerator is some netease tool to lower pings. idk why the 302 steam patch thing is needed, maybe to add friends and party with ppl. the uu accelerator is needed for players to have pings from china that even approach playable.

[broken crest]

DEAR EMBARK TEAM
DEAR EMBARK TEAM
I have one thing to say and that is that you should buff mele weapons like sword hammer and dagger but why are you nerfing them at all I haven't seen anyone complaining in the community except (appoh) so I ask you if you don't want to lose players to buff them in the next update thanks

[copper isle]

please add an option prioritize grabbing cashboxes and statues rather than props and barrels

[river escarp]

Profanity filter when?

I don’t want to see a bunch of asterisks from my teammates. Sometimes what we have to say can be a little rough. For the players without brittle spirits, we should be able to disable the profanity filter. If RuneScape can have a profanity filter, why can’t we?

[weary pine]

The Heavy needs to be less of a chore to play!

M60's recoil pulls like a horse. Needs the Fcar treatment!
SA1216 is incredibly hard to use.
KS-23 is a wierdly inaccurate slug shotgun. Needs more accuracy!
MGL is highly niche and needs a remake!

[sterile wharf]

can the odds for Nozomi/Citadel appearing as a map be nerfed? Its the only map i regularly get when i queue into a game now

[marble halo]

Embark needs to fix cashout. Griefing is a whole issue which could be fixed if we have the boxes going 10k 14k 18k or if they put some interaction for doubling. Spawns have been getting worse this season. Cashout are spawning 50m apart sometimes which should never be the case. And holy grail the match making is bonkers. If this game goes to major with this this state, the game will have no comp by the time the major ends. There's a reason why none of the past comp players are coming back to this game even after the so called 100k major because embark hasn't fixed these issues.

[charred delta]

dude be happy with that. the new map is fantastic and nobody wants the old map-rotation back where you find yourself playing Kyoto and Monaco 90% of the time. Kyoto sucks ass (everyone knows that xD) and Monaco is just boring AF over time... just my 2 cents

[novel trench]

We had one! It was suddenly removed in S6 with no comment on why or word since,

[thorny lynx]

The state of your game is toxic and worthless now. CL-40 spam and FREE CHEATS (but they go with the concept) in a FPS is insulting

[rustic tinsel]

If the Sword’s lunge doesn’t go back to 140 dmg,it’s just useless.If it’s under 140, It can’t use it against Medium or Heavy at all. and always countered by lights, whether before or after the nerf.
If you can’t kill a Light, you definitely won’t be killing Medium and Heavy. What’s meant to help Light usually ends up favoring Medium and Heavy more.

You must stop listening to nerf whiners.There’s no end to the nerf whiners’ whining. When something they wanted nerfed without any real balance reason(dislike cause skill issue) gets nerfed,they just move on to whine about the next thing.
These skill-issue players cry for nerfs to weapons they don’t use or can’t handle. even though they already have all tools and weapons.

About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so needs high DPS. DB is only viable up close, and it should 2-tap Heavy. That was correct, so reverted.
The same goes for Sword. As with the DB, you need to correct the mistake here this time too. Now, Sword has the worst TTK compared to any other weapon. Sword was built around close-range and Light’s low hp. it required specific dmg combinations for each classes.so lunge was 140 dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + m1 + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + m1.
This is the most ideal.

Quick melee combos naturally happen with all melees, and you intended it that way because they’re necessary. It just increases the skill ceiling.
Melees need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it makes sense that melee should strong up close range.
Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability and viability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
Start keeping your promises.

[sonic arrow]

"nerf cl40"

"requires no skill" Just because a weapon doesn't have a recoil pattern, ADS, or hitscan ammo doesn't mean it requires no skill, and I'm surprised the community has failed to see the difference after SEVEN seasons for crying out loud. Positioning, movement, gadgetwork, setup, etc. ALL act as some form of skill expression outside of tracing a recoil pattern.

"increase the self damage" You need the cl40 to kill themselves for you? cl40 has one of the slowest kill times in the game, I'm pretty sure even a bad player can kill one in that time...

"pick rate is high" Obviously not higher than that of AKM/FCAR/XP or any other generic full auto. Plus the fact that cl40 is never seen in high ranks. Seriously, if y'all want a full auto meta there's like 50 CoD games you can play

"low skill floor" Just because it has large aoe does not mean its "easy" to play. you have to work around the niche the weapon has and incorporate movement to make sure you stay alive. Alas, with a GUN, you memorize a recoil pattern and learn to strafe. There isnt really a difference here in how "easy" certain weapons are to pick up in this situation

"hard to react to" I can think of about 15 counters to cl40 (unlike the rest of the community apparently), but I'll name five

• High ground
• Aps turret
• Teamwork
• Simply OUTRANGING IT (its a projectile weapon)
• now that heal meta is a thing you can even OUTHEAL it for gods sake

learn how to deal with a cl40 yourself, dont wait for the devs to do it for you

[visual wave]

A hand-to-hand/cqc/gauntlet type weapon would be so much fun (Medium). One more thing and I’ll shut up about it

if not able to mitigate fire like the dual blades, they could give players the ability to kick enemies with a slight knockback, just enough to disrupt them and give allies an opportunity to support. And/or gauntlets could have a singular lunge w/ a cooldown to close gaps, something like Light’s sword lunge

[hybrid silo]

I‘m loving the new bug where I randomly don’t get a full mag after I reload, it adds so much to the game. But seriously Embark please don’t add anything to the game for the next year and just focus on attempting to fix this dumpsterfire of a game because with every update you guys just manage to make it worse than it already is.

[pastel cypress]

Love the game but this season feel like you just extended season 6 with new map which doesnt really bring anything new the new gadgets are okay but i feel this season is just stale

[empty junco]

WHEN ARE WE NERFING CL40? FIRE RATE IS TOO MUCH, I DONT ANY FIGHT 1V1 AGAINST CL

[robust cradle]

Love the game! My only suggestion is adding the ability to pass group leader in the lobby and to be able to see which knockout round you are in in the tab menu during a game. Ty!

[nova mica]

Please embark, bring back map rotations on World Tour 🙏🏻 I literally haven’t gotten a Monaco game this season in world tour and it’s my all time favorite map. At least with rotations I could guarantee a week of some Monaco

[acoustic pollen]

EMBARKY PLEASE ADD KEYBOARD AND MOUSE SUPPORT FOR PS5 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼😭😭

[keen lily]

stop giving me blocked people as the teammates in ranked, block should mean you can't get them as teammates, not just chat

[wooden atlas]

I don’t think CL-40 needs nerfed. Not that I want it to remain dominant, mind you—I just find it such a mid weapon already that I don’t see how you could possibly make it worse. I just don’t want to see ANY MORE NERFS until we get SOMETHING buffed appreciably. If other weapons were easier to use and performed better, this CL-40 problem wouldn’t exist. In fact, it hasn’t existed until this season with the Cerberus nerf. Buff other things and I guarantee you the CL-40 pick rate will nosedive

[worldly pumice]

The trophy designs in the shooting range are so good but why cant we get unique rank badge designs for each season 😭
All the rank badges are just plain with the only differences being the text showing the season that you placed, but I think it would be 1000% cooler that the badge designs reflect the trophy designs
please embark 🙏

[drifting topaz]

• NERF CL40

• NERF DOUBLE BARREL

• NERF HEALS

[raven garnet]

Just make solo q an option for game modes. you would not have wait times as youd find matches fast and no stacks 🙂

[faint badge]

why does everyone want everything nerfed

[cerulean shale]

Nerf the double barrel shotgun the dash the Mp5 the uzi the invincible grenade the hook.... Nothing in the light class gets nerfed but medium and heavy do because of the light class players.. since when a sniper can be used like a shotgun and since when the Mp5 is stronger than the AK OR SCAR?

[unreal zodiac]

Fix spear spin and let me cancel the spin too

[pulsar shore]

Embark PLEASE MAKE MORE VAIIYA DRIP AND MORE MP5 RELOAD ANIMATIONS 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[lusty meadow]

Please nerf cl40 and rework the color blind mode, I tried all of them and there is always two teams where I can’t see differences ;-;

[remote blade]

Skill issue get good stop calling for nerf cause u can t aim and dk how to adapt nerfs kill the game just buff weapons that are underperforming light is a glass cannon class it is supposed to hit hard the trade off is low hp

[onyx wing]

I feel like the only nerf that could be reasonable in my eyes for the CL40 is if they decreased the radius of damage when the grenade hits, and slightly less damage from the grenades, maybe slightly slower fire rate, but honestly as a dual blades main, the cl40 is annoying at times but if you can’t work around it or with your teammates to deal with it then imo that’s a skill issue, thank you (btw I personally don’t have a problem with the cl40 I just think people are overreacting to it and I wanted to give my input on what could be the fairest nerf)

[radiant folio]

i feel like people are asking for CL40 nerfs because everyone’s moving to it after all the other medium guns have been nerfed, they should give some of the medium’s guns tweaks to be more viable and make the CL40 less abundant (mainly model reload buff, cb-01 hipfire buff, akm recoil buff)

edit: i mean pretty minor tweaks here, nothing too crazy

[crisp parrot]

Yes and cerb could use an afterburn buff imo. People will ditch the cl if other guns feel better to use

[modern bramble]

give us CHINAMAP

[fleet socket]

Ranked should give a token so you can make anything gold-ruby that you want instead of having to wait for "your" season or rank feeling pointless cause you didn't know about the betas and can't flex your main weapon. Just make the tokens label whatever season you earned it. Example getting platinum during season 8 could let you get platinum barricade and gold damascus frag nade, this would mean you'd only need 4 seasons of diamond/ruby to get your main load out all diamond/ruby

[proven parcel]

No they lied bud.

[hoary swan]

agreed

[formal pier]

CB is pretty strong now, and is really skill dependant, changes could make it OP

[red grotto]

is it possible to be able to vault while going sideways or just diagonally? it would really make the movement smoother

[proud gate]

Increase max fov for light and lower for heavy like 3-5°

[real wyvern]

I believe the repeater needs a 2x headshot multiplier.
A slow firerate weapon that punishes you a lot for missing, yet it does not reward for good aim (when it comes to damage, since ARs are generally way more forgiving and damage feels the same).

Revolver, deagles, LH1 all have the 2x multi but not this weapon for some reason.
It would make it more appealing to use it if that was the case.

If someone raises a concern that it can one shot a light in the head, then remember that you just hit the smallest hitbox, fastest movement, DPS king class in the head. Imo deserved kill.

[tropic egret]

disable sniper on powershift and make the mode fun again for the other 8/9 people in the match.

[vernal eagle]

give glitch grenade the ability to disable defib rez while its loading

[winter zealot]

pls remove low garvity nobody likes it

[delicate marlin]

Revert sword nerf, it really needs to be able to 3 shot heavies. 4 shots is too much. Maybe decrease movespeed while swinging in primary fire if you really want to nerf it

[topaz jungle]

I don’t like it, but it IS an interesting modifier. I think that’s the point

[bleak moss]

??? Repeater already 2 taps light with body shots. It needs a nerf not a buff

[plush fjord]

We need cooler looking explosions.

Theyre already awesome, but right now the explosions seem to have a bit more smoke and dust and not the orange-red tint you'd expect from an explosion.

And then whenever you'd get an explosion, you'd think its light would reflect a bit off of windows and your screen.

The picture above shows the kind of thing I'm talking about. Explosions will look way better if this kinda upgrad is implemented.

Thanks Embark.

[snow heart]

For the “interruption” contracts, can you add interrupting opponents who are attempting to take ofer the platform in Power Shift?

[hearty bough]

Please make some QoL updates to Riot Shield thank you

[fading cobalt]

Removing animation cancels on the shotguns was fine.

What wasn't fine was them doing so without adding segmented reloads so that if one part of the animation is done, it doesn't repeat if interrupted.

For example, say you pump the KS-23 back, then QM/Winch/whatever, when that other action completes, you should only have to push the pump forward, not do the whole animation again.

[gritty swan]

I’ve been playing casual matches since I started the game, I haven’t played so many hours, but enough to say that the events that keep repeating are not as chaotic as I was hoping

I wanna see more chaos in the map, more of the invaders event, the UFO, the orbitals and more events like that, less of floaty jumps, actually WAY LESS of floaty jumps cuz I get that for like 3 matches in a row

[waxen rover]

Ranked matching for solos is horrible, keep getting put with people on 2-5k less SR than me

[tulip current]

horrible tech state and balance is out of touch (getting teamed up with bronze players against ruby stacks)

[trim beacon]

GIVE DASH COOLDOWN INBETWEEN DASHES LIKE =:%SEC

[autumn oyster]

Very funny to see "get better and beat them" coming from a top-35 Ruby, the exact player from the different side of barricade who never plays solo but always queues with a full party of Ruby players against solo/duo Golds in Ranked.
My suggestion clearly explained how to fix the issue without needing to grow the player base (by reducing the number of rounds) so there’s no need to look for excuses if you just want to stomp lower-ranked opponents instead of being matched with equals.

[tribal spoke]

Please ruby dual blades in s8 🙏

[dusty river]

cl40 needs to be reworked. the current state is almost as strong as it was in the two weeks of madness at the start of season 4 while at the same time being easier to use and having one more shot.

demat is hands down the most powerful ability in the game. It does well at all things. Traveling, escaping, attacking, stealing, hunting or defending there is almost no moment where demat isn't super strong. Either introduce an actual counter or nerf the ability.

don't touch dash please. People are just venting their anger and have no remaining target after getting most things on light nerfed. Neither grapple nor the hugely nerfed cloak can actually compete for in combat use.

sword revert. the weapon is dead. most sword players just mindlessly spam primary. All the skill tech and finesse was replaced by a melee weapon equivalent to the flamethrower.

Chain winch. Rework to remove the stun. Getting stunned feels bad. Getting stunned by a class with 350 hp feels a lot worse. Its weird that all cc is on the single class with an rpg that can literally win teamfights.

RPG: 50 damage, two stacks, buff reload speed, buff destruction. Embark stated they want the rpg to be used for destruction primarily. Then why am i seeing 100 rpg damage in almost every match? This is still an entry frag device. DO something about it don't just write in the patch notes.

Finally some positives. I love chuck and the infuser. Great additions that actually shook up the game play a lot more than three new badly tuned weapons would have. New medium gadget seems great for non demat players but with demat being as powerful as it is i don't see much usage. Great audio design though.

[daring fossil]

are you guys ever going to fix the bug where it throws my second throwable without letting go of the throw button after already throwing one? You have to wait a solid 2 seconds after throwing the first one to guarantee you don't immediately throw the second one. It's been an issue since beta, and it's extremely annoying.

[worldly geode]

Ranked in Finals just a trash. Embark pls do something with rank system. I CANT PLAY VS 2 RUBY TEAM. JUST IMPOSSIBLE. Specialy when ruby team pass different team. I don't want to fight 1v2. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ITS A -700 rank after. It's not fair.

[sullen girder]

Fk Kyoto,
Fk moving platforms in Seoul.

Did they remove fortune stadium?
I've not seen it in days

[supple mortar]

PLEASE revert the sword nerf this upcoming patch.

[thick sorrel]

Great summary - really on point, I like it!

[torn pecan]

ive been getting fortune quite a lot recently. However Kyoto and Las Vegas have been rare for me

[cinder charm]

Day 16 of asking embark to bring back bank it (and day 4 of asking embark to nerf cl-40)

[proven storm]

wallhacks were tried before and it didnt work out. why are we trying them out again??

[quaint portal]

Melee is not viable currently and Embark is taking every step to make it even less viable with each balance patch. I thought this game was supposed to be different to other shooters, but it is slowly becoming a battlefield/COD clone with a few gimmick gadgets and abilities. Sad to see.
Embark, stop taking advice from sweaty, cringe streamers that only play with guns, and focus on the aspect that make you game unique and fun.
Stop nerfing playstyle and build variety for the sake of renegade COD players, THEY ARE NOT YOUR AUDIENCE.

shotgun oneshots light at close range
Embark: 😄
Any Melee weapon oneshots a light at close range
Embark: 😡

Gotta love this logic, balance team.

Anyways,

Hey, Embark, can we get more colors for the basic tank tops? Maybe Red or Blue? Ty! Love the game! (balance it properly, plz)

[muted maple]

Hey, anyone had this issue? My Razer BlackShark V2 Pro suddenly stopped playing sound in-game.
Other videos (like YouTube) work fine
Even the cutscenes or demo videos in the game have sound
But no sound in the game menu or actual gameplay 🤷‍♂️
Tried restarting and reconnecting the headset, still the same. Any ideas?

[verbal sail]

Captain Ironmark is such a disapointment
why does he not have pirate voice lines??????

Ill do the voices for free if youd like

[olive fulcrum]

Release stats on how many top 500 players get banned at end of season (this game needs way more cheater shaming, because it is crawling with cheaters)

Also release stats on how many top 500 players are smurf accounts. (Use same IP addr)

Edit; release more stats!! :)

[plain lotus]

Constant red symbols

[marble hearth]

Bring back old cashout station music

[signal root]

add vote to kick in 5v5 modes

[jaunty crown]

the matchmaking across casual modes is the worst it has been in this game's entire lifespan. why am i consistently being matched with elite ranked players who completely dominate every lobby even though I have played maybe 4 ranked games in my life

[heavy bridge]

I dislike hearing a robotic squeaky sound with the tier 97 battlepass skin, when you run you hear not only your running footsteps but now an extra layer of robotic squeaking constantly, i tolerated it for 1 match but playing a season with that is a joke and I encourage others to not waste their money on the skin, pay to lose.

[sonic arrow]

"nerf cl40"

"requires no skill" Just because a weapon doesn't have a recoil pattern, ADS, or hitscan ammo doesn't mean it requires no skill, and I'm surprised the community has failed to see the difference after SEVEN seasons for crying out loud. Positioning, movement, gadgetwork, setup, etc. ALL act as some form of skill expression outside of tracing a recoil pattern.

"increase the self damage" You need the cl40 to kill themselves for you? cl40 has one of the slowest kill times in the game, I'm pretty sure even a bad player can kill one in that time...

"pick rate is high" Obviously not higher than that of AKM/FCAR/XP or any other generic full auto. Plus the fact that cl40 is never seen in high ranks. Seriously, if y'all want a full auto meta there's like 50 CoD games you can play

"low skill floor" Just because it has large aoe does not mean its "easy" to play. you have to work around the niche the weapon has and incorporate movement to make sure you stay alive. Alas, with a GUN, you memorize a recoil pattern and learn to strafe. There isnt really a difference here in how "easy" certain weapons are to pick up in this situation

"hard to react to" I can think of about 15 counters to cl40 (unlike the rest of the community apparently), but I'll name five

• High ground
• Aps turret
• Teamwork
• Simply OUTRANGING IT (its a projectile weapon)
• now that heal meta is a thing you can even OUTHEAL it for gods sake

learn how to deal with a cl40 yourself, dont wait for the devs to do it for you

Also, can we fix the bug where my weapon reloads nonstop after shooting one round? It's effectively the new gun jam bug

[bold berry]

what happens if you take 1 or two shoots, that takes 150 to 200 dmg to a Medium before you even see or spot you enemy? Remeber that there is no arrow indicator.. how is that fair?

[zinc oasis]

Some one could have already killed you with any other weapon in the game

[versed hazel]

are there bots in tdm? i stg i keep getting full stacks vs weirdos who just stand around in corners strafing instead of actually playing

[grand crow]

Hoping for Specializations in season 8 :)
I'll try not to get my hopes up, but 3 specs would be perfect considering we just got 3 gadgets and 3 weapons.

[toxic jungle]

The dagger backstab NEEDS to be nerfed

[frozen tree]

It’s already been nerfed hard, the angle isn’t even 180 degrees and it lost its ability to backstab objects like turrets, which is a pain. If you’re struggling with dagger, try turning around when one runs at you, as they’ll usually dash or grapple behind you and backstab

[charred delta]

a nerf??? are you ok? yes it 2 taps lights already because it has to! and surprise - there are people who dont enjoy light all the time 24/7. and if a heavy pops up in front of you, you are already dead! except he is missing hard times and/or you are the god of quickscoping and hitting every shot while jumping around like crazy... if you are the one - congratulations! but 98% of the playerbase isnt! thats because the reapeater is the less picked weapon... when i see the weapon in my lobbys its in my own hands for 95% of the time. when i want to punish my self for some reason xDDD ...its just punishing to play and not rewarding at all. you miss one shot and you are dead! ...and why should i pick this over the fcar where i can lean back and win the game whitout breaking my arm? xD

[untold hazel]

embark advertise ur game bro

[versed gull]

140 sword lunge? 500ms dagger stab? Why are they gone?

Who looks at the ttk of double barrel and thinks that's fine but when you're already putting yourself at a disadvantage by playing off-meta with melee you should be further punished with the worst range AND damage in the game?

It's silly, please make melee viable :(

Quick melee combos are not cheese, it's viable tech that increases the skill ceiling and allows for more skill expression. Stop taking it out of the game while still allowing for tons of exceptions on ranged weapons.

[glad pike]

Lame feedback

[fast lion]

Let me play music from any season on the boombox, let me switch it on and off ingame. Please it would be so funny

[jagged cedar]

-- sincerely, someone who hasnt learned how to turn

[drifting isle]

skill issue

[drifting topaz]

NERF CL40

NERF DOUBLE BARREL

[odd plover]

I am at the northernmost point of China, far from the game server, with high latency, so I need to use network tools. At the same time, I cannot connect to Steam directly in China, so I have to use steamcommunity to connect to it.

[versed knot]

Embark, please fix the SMALL SCREEN 📺 charm it’s bugged rn!

Tysm 🙏🏽

[pulsar jay]

the seed system is genuinely terrible and needs to go, putting me seed one against ex rubies because i've played more of the current season than them is so incredibly stupid

[tawdry oak]

NERF CL- 40!!! Again the game unplayable becouse the brain-dead weapon

[harsh thistle]

Hey devs,

I want to explain why matchmaking feels so frustrating right now, especially for players like me and my friends who just want fair games. After every season reset, the same thing happens: god-tier players and smurfs end up in mid-tier lobbies like gold or plat. It’s not that we’re losing to people who are slightly better — we’re getting completely steamrolled by players who don’t belong anywhere near our rank.

The big issue is that the placements and resets don’t separate out the top players fast enough. When the season starts, everyone gets dumped into the same pool, so the first couple of weeks feel like you’re just feeding smurfs and top players until they climb out. But even climbing out takes too long, because the MMR system doesn’t care how well or badly you play — you get the same points as everyone on your team no matter what. That means smurfs can stay in these lower lobbies for way too many games, ruining matches for people actually trying to climb.

On top of that, the referral program just encouraged even more alt accounts, so now we’re seeing a ton of default-skin smurfs stomping everyone.

What would actually help? First, individual performance should matter for MMR — so if someone’s playing way above the lobby’s level, they climb out faster. Second, the game needs smurf detection or at least a smurf report option so the system can spot when someone’s clearly way above their rank. Third, there should be more separation at the top — either more ranks or a wider MMR gap — so cracked players don’t sit in gold or plat lobbies for dozens of games before they move up.

Right now, it just feels like average players are stuck in matches they can’t win, and the top players are wasting time stomping people below their level. I love the game, but this is killing the ranked experience.

Hope this helps explain where the pain is coming from.

[wicked ocean]

AOE weapons should be nerfed into the ground. the counter to them is to spread out which is antithetical to winning in the finals, leading to anti-fun interactions. "pro-casual" is not a valid reason that these mechanics should be viable. delete kyoto while youre at it. map has poor visibility, which is bad for comp play, leading to anti-fun interactions. there ya go, fixed the game.

[fickle sun]

GIVE US A COOL SKIN FOR THE M60, THE LEWIS GUN HAS TOO MANY!

[tacit whale]

🙏😞

[jagged walrus]

No skill

[cerulean shale]

😂😂😂 the lame excuse of no skill is GTFO y'all need to get good asking for everything to get Nerf ... Is that why everything for the medium and heavy got nerfed because light couldn't adjust or should I say skills issues...you sound salty so that tells me you play light

[safe zenith]

i think its pretty obvious why the monthly player count drops each season, and as a result embark loses money so they add more ingame purchases (extreme battle pass as an example). Pretty sad to see this game go down the gutter but it was to be expected. nerf light

[buoyant thicket]

👎

[harsh cliff]

I just played one round and I feel like people know each other in the lobby, we were the team to be griefed. Maybe it's good to hide people's names so people don't help someone they know in the lobby. Also some how it would be nice to hide which team has what money. Or display it in A wrong way so people don't grief. Teams that are doing well.
The idea is to fight to the top against all teams and have a fair play.
I swear so many rounds I see how teams are playing together as one team. This is not a ranked fair gameplay.

[brittle steeple]

do something about lights on powershift i BEG of you
sniper ESPECIALLY BROOOOO
ppl be playing like its tdm just cuz they know its harder to fight back on that gamemode
which is why they dont play tdm
i really dont have any specific ideas but maybe for powershift specifically make it so sniper users dont get to use any specializations or at least heavily nerfed ones
if u think thats stupid then u come up with a better idea cuz trying to deal with snipers just to have them dash to the other side of the map is the most stupid shit ever

[vagrant lake]

Default name level 10 cheaters dominating my lobbies in powershift is becoming tiring. That for a 30 euro price tag for a battle pass smh

[worldly dew]

Embark could you be open tell us how your trying to fix the server problem it’s to a point I’m not playing and I’ve played everyday since OB

[proven parcel]

There is no war in Ba Sing Se

[cold bolt]

Remove/rework kyoto please this and bernal are by far the maps with the worst spawns

[novel trench]

I think the $30 Super BP is a very cool way of supporting the continued development of the game. I’d like to see more avenues like it in the future.

[iron jetty]

mac suport or switch 2 support in the near future

[split scroll]

Can i get a game mode where there is no light build speaking from pain and agony

[versed vault]

proceeds to explain why it requires no skill

[acoustic pollen]

Wdym they lied 😭😭😭

[topaz token]

I would absolutely love to have ping displayed for each player. I feel like my connection to the server is so inconsistent, some games I can’t miss and win every fight, then others my shots aren’t landing and I’m getting melted before I can get the opponent to half health. I would love to know if I need to play extra conservatively if I see that someone has a massive connection advantage over me.

[thick sorrel]

That instant demat of your cover is soooo bullshit. Give a demat time of at least 1 second.

[restive trail]

NERF CL40!!!!!!

[molten jackal]

NERF THE BALLISTIC SHIELD. THAT CRAP IS MASSIVELY OP. THERE'S A REASON THE ACRONYM READS BS.

[plain escarp]

make it so that anyone below emerald/diamond cannot post in this channel

[summer rune]

nerf tracking dart, no reticle bloom on hipfire and it's hitscan, no counterplay at all, tired of dying to it please fix

[pine frigate]

Please Embark do something about the quickplay queue as a solo my lord, getting real tired of fighting diamonds and rubies full stacking not fun at all the toxicity of ranked players has resulted in literal spawncamping and pub stomping casual players, the amount of ego boosters is insane. I thought this was only a problem late at night since I get out of work late but having had time to play at normal hours today I see its a overall issue. Slowly but surely pushing me away from this game.

[north sinew]

pls fix these respawns, thats not possible to play and enjoy the game when every cashout is 3rd party

[feral ferry]

Someone do something about the skill issue in the game. Nerf really good players and make everything not easy for the average bad player.

[icy marsh]

Soeul Standard issue + moving platform = no middle with both objs right next to each other. absolutely cooked game design

[topaz jetty]

Embark, I know you say you keep improving spawn logic in this game, but season after season it seems to get continually worse. Spawns on every single map this season have been a mix of teams literally spawning on you + you spawning 5 miles away from our own box. Please, take a legitimate look into spawn logic because this aint it.

Ranked griefing is also the worst it's been since game came out. It's already been said there's ways to mitigate this (half the box amounts if doubled, disabling doubling entirely, etc) but Embark please at least just acknowledge this is going on, talk to us about it

[vivid seal]

sir what in the hell is a "ballistic shield"

[quartz folio]

Melee weapons take skill to you use and I can see why people are mad about the melee nerfs. I’m not a melee main but when I play melee I can see how hard it is to play. The sledgehammer didn’t need a nerf. The dagger didn’t need the nerf for backstabbing gadgets. Now with sword I would allow the lunge attack to be back to its pre nerf stage but when lunging you can’t you evasive dash.

[mint flower]

Nerf the light build. I feel it's way too OP

[feral shard]

Day 33 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)

It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes

It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex

Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it

(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)

[chilly atlas]

I suggest two things. 1 QOL When you die, instead of dropping the current mini figure, it should drop a vertical spinning token with the team logo on it. This may help distinguish which enemy token is dropped in colorblind or red v blue mode.

Also 5 man capture the flag [or cashbox] where you compete in capture the flag but deposits. [Better than snd]

[rotund gust]

please add world tour bonanza where you play tdm ta ps and bank it

[hazy skiff]

Add horse

[analog glacier]

EMBARK you are a ridiculous company that I hope goes out of business soon!

NERF CL40!!!!!!!!

[hallow epoch]

BUFF: Akm give it 1 damage buff
M60 Needs 1 damage buff and buff it's range, the range is horrible it's an lmg not a pistol
NERF: Throwing knives , how can this weapon have such a fast ttk and never have to reload to many pros , skill issue if u say their hard to use they are super easy
Nerf the sh shotgun there's Is no reason there should be 1 shot kill weapons for any clas as no one has them except for lights make it fair. The other shotguns can't even do that to a light let alone against heavys and mediums but lights gets a mini fucking tank??? It's ridiculous nerf it

[sand kayak]

buff minigun

[thorny lynx]

I bet your pick rate of the CL-40 is the highest ever.... cause the game is the worst.... ever. 100k tourny here we come!!! oh wait.... the server froze

[slender socket]

Embark how in the hell you gift someone the (Strike Commander for season 6 & Urban Ronin Set for season 7) for having the Xbox Game Pass just to take it away when it’s over wtf Embark

[lucid viper]

Ok thank you I thought it was just me

[torn pulsar]

revert the fucking sword nerf unplayable

[graceful flame]

let us go into private matches alone

[gilded veldt]

Yeah, my gamepass is still active but, those sets disappeared

[pallid monolith]

THIS GAME RUNS LIKE DOG SHIT SINCE SEASON 7. WORST FUCKING SEASON I'VE PLAYED TO DATE

[radiant folio]

i’d love to have the accessibility option that Destiny 2 has where you can hold the fire button to keep firing semi-auto weapons instead of having to click for each time you fire

[wind gulch]

i dont like the TA announcer in cashout modes

[pulsar jay]

this system is dogshit

[normal gyro]

'Embark you suck I hope you go bankrupt!!!!

B-But also can you pwease nerf this weapon for me? 🥺'

[mystic drum]

So when did you guys decide to pull the game pass bundle away??? That we already had???

[indigo nova]

Happy Season CL40, H infuser, and Defibrillator everyone! Enjoy using the same HML loadout or being at an immediate and often insurmountable disadvantage!!

[rustic hill]

Why did you guys take away the Xbox game pass free stuff

[simple ether]

The game is filled with so many cheaters its becoming unplayable anymore.

[untold willow]

nerf CL 40

[wide lance]

idk abt yall but aim assist feels non existent in this game

[forest nymph]

Healing gotta chill a bit

[zealous scarab]

Game is completely broken. I am so tired of this map destruction mechanic you changed. It's burying people in maps. noone can move and everyone in power shift is feeling it. Other modes you don't notice it. Just the new map destruction mechanic is effffed

[hardy quartz]

Why in the world did we just lose the VAAIYA NINJA outfit?!

[nova mica]

Fix this lol. Is this a new tickle barrel or something?

[neat yoke]

lmao

[reef lake]

either nerf CL-40, as a shield player theres absolutely ZERO counterplay to a duo of grenade launchers.

OR buff APS Turret range. by ALOT. most of the time i cant even place the turret down for it to be useful enough to counter even one Cl-40 player.

or minor buff the shield and dampen a little of the damage; why am i being blown to smithereens off a couple shots while i can tank multiple grenades and rpg's while taking no damage, that game logic doesnt make sense :3

[outer niche]

The sword has become an unplayable weapon due to recent nerfs to its lunge damage. As a result, nearly every other weapon now has a close range advantage, which makes little sense considering swords are supposed to excel in such combat. The reduction in lunge damage has made it nearly impossible to effectively deal with heavies, often requiring four lunges or unreasonably complex combos resulting in a long TTK compared to other weapons. Even when you manage to eliminate a heavy or medium, you're left vulnerable against the rest of the team with depleted dashes and utility. Additionally, it’s unreasonable for light classes to require two lunges or a lunge plus a melee attack to kill. The sword’s lack of damage against light classes, especially compared to other weapons, makes them very difficult to kill if they know how to kite. Overall, the sword is currently one of the weakest weapons in the game, overshadowed by others that can easily out damage it at close range even if those weapons aren’t designed specifically for close combat.

[wooden atlas]

I don’t want to see a single other nerf (not even to CL-40) until we get at least three more solid buffs into the game. Nerfing everything is not healthy

[stray copper]

Or how about we buff the weaker weapons!

[proven parcel]

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

[versed gull]

Buff dagger 💕🔪 Buff sword 💕🗡️

Stop nerfing everything into the ground!

[fringe obsidian]

buff nothing

[jaunty crown]

i cannot emphasize enough how terrible the matchmaking feels and how unbalanced every single game is. i just want to play against people at my skill level

[woeful monolith]

same i downloaded the game like yesterday and i keep getting curb stomped by people light years better than me

[leaden tangle]

Embark, why I lose Urban Ronin Set? I get it from Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscription and now I don't.

[pliant whale]

matchmaking is such one-sided trash and it feels like it deliberately puts all the bad people on one team which makes no sense

[quaint swallow]

Another cheaters. Namelessgod. 26 and 7. Going to start calling this game CoD junior

[pliant lichen]

Still can't see whether glass is broken or not despite it being extremely common sentiment that the glass panes need a visibility tweak.

Season 7 btw.

[lofty hornet]

Daily reminder how shit this wallhacks event is.
Please never do it again

[hearty hatch]

Embark... what's going on here. We WON our WT round and were sent back to main menu? This is concerning. What if this was a RANKED match? Would I lose RS? What's going on....?

[drifting topaz]

NERF CL40 AND DOUBLE BARREL

[lilac pelican]

NERF CL40

[azure orchid]

BUFF CL-40

[austere fox]

all of these wt tour players r actual no brain bums cl40 is good bc ur all holding hands on the low ground and playing range , push them, take high ground , don’t group up , the cl40 is garbo

[native plinth]

increase red barrel spawn in maps with suspended platform, I shouldnt have to search for them like some mythical item

[jagged vector]

Remove the new event, wall hacks is so unnecessary. Makes me not even want to play until it’s down

[snow matrix]

Kyoto green house crashes my friends game whenever he's near it, doesn't have any issues otherwise.

[brittle steeple]

introduce weapon ban votes on alt gamemodes (tdm, powershift)
some weapons become too frustrating for alt gamemodes while being semi balanced main game and this allows to not need a buff/nerf

[stark willow]

Hi dev team, there’s a little bug with the outfit system, when you equip the Alfa Acta’s “ammo belt” from the past roulette it always disappears, no matter if you save the outfit or not
(Just in case, it only happens to me when you have the Alfa Acta’s shirt from the minigun bundle)

[odd sparrow]

We shouldn't be nerfing cl 40. Instead we should rework it to make it less annoying while also buffing other weapons to discourage players only using it.

[errant mortar]

Please please buff the data Reshaper back again. Also please remove a few items from rotation, it's really hard to get the object you want with how many things are on the Reshapers cycle now.

The Reshaper is so lame now, why is its only purpose for countering annoying players that use turrets and mines, when It could be used for setting up a ton of flame barrels and poisons like it used to.

[iron berry]

QOL changes:

make it so in tournament modes it gives which round and how much time is left in the match

tdm which round and the time left

(maybe even current placements in said match)

[honest wing]

nerf the ball of fire that's 93 million miles away from our planet, thanks

[lapis basin]

Why did you guys add wall hacks!?!?!? Worst event ever…. OMG terrible

[ripe cloak]

nothin more i want then to get full ruby lobbies cuz its competitive destroying bots is boring after awhile

[soft bolt]

make it so silvers cannot queue into plat players games

[bold ocean]

Had a bug a couple times since season 7 when after getting Defibbed my movement is locked and then I'll instantly die due to an enemy being able to get free shots as I cannot move. It's rather annoying and throws off the flow the match.

Furthermore, Day three of asking Embark to FIX HIT REGISTRATION!

[icy thistle]

Make it avaliable to vote for maps on quick play and would be nice to have a TDM ranked

[shrewd echo]

Can we get a couple of hot dog skins for the Desert Eagle's, I want people to sweat under the heat when I'm grillin' em in-game. The Brat-Worst set

[near spruce]

Is it too much to ask, legendary and mythic tier weapon skins having customized reticles that actually fit the skin theme

[next timber]

Was the epic S.O. sleek- snow PlayStation Plus exclusive skin a limited time thing? I'm not seeing it in my skins anymore just the regular camo one

[rancid cloud]

World Tour does not grant enough points per match. Lower emerald rank requirements or increase points earned per match, especially for rounds one and two.

[spare rapids]

Why does everyone bring up high ranks and how they play as if anyone other than the 10 people grinding ranked care about that? 😂

[covert dagger]

How anyone involved with this game thinks it's ready for e-sports is WILD. Still can't reign in the balance because in the name of weapon variance it's been made pretty much impossible and the spawns are still terrible

[supple mortar]

Please revert sword.

[violet pulsar]

.

[floral shoal]

Shadow Ban cheaters to their own lobbies and make it look like they're making progress. Then ban them at the end of the season.

[green jacinth]

the RESPAWNS are terrible also when a light is pocketing a heavy with the H+ INFUSER while stealing its almost impossible to stop it as a medium

[alpine summit]

Heavy should get a jump pad or zip line

[stark flint]

DEV TEAM PLEEEAASSSEEEE MAKE A POWER SHIFT TOURNAMENT LIKE WOLRD TOUR PLEEEAAASSSEEEE

[pure glade]

It'd be nice if the shooting range area of the practice range had an option to change the background from black to white since it is pretty hard to see your sights, especially on iron sights, the further targets just blend in with the back wall in my experience

[rotund gust]

make moolah only moo on kill and inspect. was this so hard for yall to figure out?

[broken crest]

DEAR EMBARK TEAM
DEAR EMBARK TEAM
I have one thing to say and that is that you should buff mele weapons like sword hammer and dagger but why are you nerfing them at all I haven't seen anyone complaining in the community except (appoh) so I ask you if you don't want to lose players to buff them in the next update thanks

[carmine orbit]

They should be able to put down a bridge across buildings or make ladders

[haughty halo]

what if: new mode 6v6v6v6 world tour EXTRAVAGANZAAAA

[violet elbow]

Really funny when people bring up the CL40 TTK argument liks its not a model for shitters because it shoots faster, has the same (non qm) breakpoints and does full damage if you aim nearly a meter next to your enemy.

Just say you need it instead of hiding behind goofy arguments, its an untalented weapon that does the same thing model does but with infinitely less mechanical skill required to be effective, and thats why yall use it

[zenith ore]

Buff sword and dagger give them both 2m of more range

[long oxide]

bring back goo ship

[pulsar jay]

this and cashout pad tech (but less volatile so it's not totally busted)

stop completely removing fun shit

[potent solar]

lots of cheaters, never been pre-fired so much in my life. that with the predictable spawns.

[livid pivot]

Phantom reload still is a problem

Season 7

And we still have encounter and get bugs on the daily while the game is Soo poorly optemised and bug redden

Still unplayable yet I can't stop playing

Please fix the bugs you guys
You're suffocating this beautiful game to death

I can't fathom why YouTubers are recommending this game still with so much and so many issues 7 seasons in

God it's unacceptable

[worldly pumice]

Fr. Love dying to cl players who only need to look in my general direction to kill me instead of using an actual gun and being accurate with it. Just say you need it as a crutch and move on.

[severe linden]

Ban strikepack and xim users✨

[ruby dew]

BUFF MELE! SAVE MELE! BUFF MELE! SAVE MELE!!!!!!!!

[small ivy]

Hello Embark team, I think this opinion will be important to you
of course, how else 🙂

I think that a weapon like sh1900 in the "weapon" slot looks very strange. It is too unstable for beginners, which is why beginners almost never play with it, and it is very strong in the hands of pro players, so much so that if you start a shootout with it, then you have 0 chances to win it. The weapon is not suitable for competitive discipline and especially for eSports. I think that this weapon can feel good in the gadget or specialization slot, if you give it some kind of conditional rocket jump or another creative feature

[orchid flame]

where is the love for sa? shak ruby skin as well and battle pass?

[quick coyote]

na

• whole embark team

[paper marlin]

Hi Embark this is my pitch for better season 8 ranked rewards

Everything we get so far for ranked rewards is good but from what I gathered from the hundreds of teammates I’ve played with this season they want to have something to show off more and is more noticeable in match.

Give diamond/ruby/emerald players a special emote they can showcase at the begging and end of the match, possibly holding a trophy the color of what rank they reached the prior seasons.

Give players who reach these ranks and outfit or atleast a cool demon mask the color of the rank they reached the prior seasons, and each season you can change the mask or even a whole outfit preferably like armor (not too bulky) still stylish.

To clarify these rewards would only be for any rank diamond/emerald and above but overall I think it will solidify the feeling of accomplishment when reaching these ranks and encourage players to play more. I noticed some players chose not to pursue ranked or WT even if they really enjoy the gamemodes because they rewards weren’t really appealing to them.

This will solve that dilemma and make the community extremely happy.

Embark. Yea it’s me again😅 I got another pitch for ya. Part 2

New rank to the ranked play.

I’m loving the gem theme for ranked play so to continue that, add one more rank to the system # SAPPHIRE # this new rank would come right after diamond and before ruby being a dazzling purple color would introduce a new level to grind for 😃. The new ranked rewards I mentioned can be exclusive for just this rank and ruby or diamond aswhell, your choice but I’ve definitely noticed how after people reach ruby they just continue to play so this new rank would make the grind to ruby even more challenging but also even more rewarding.

Overall I think I will also be a great addition to the game and give some of the dedicated fanbase a great new goal to work towards.

[versed gull]

Pls stop catering to ranked and balance for fun gameplay!

[autumn haven]

@marble tulip adding a sling-shot for the bow & arrow's mythic skin would be sweet.

[fresh hatch]

add a goo gun skin pls 💖

[tired escarp]

If it's so untalented main it for a season and give us feedback later, when I say main it I mean take it to world tour AND ranked

[hoary swan]

I already know a guy who’s top 200 rn using cl40 in ranked

[feral elm]

In this circumstance I’d also love to know what class and weapons and specialization they currently main … I suspect it would tell us a lot about them.

[sand leaf]

why buff? they are already OP af… especially the dagger is just a nonsense.. one stab to your back and 320 dmg… I hate players that use it with dash…so annoying

[wispy ivy]

cardboard 4 take

[slender girder]

Add cosmetics, weapon skins, backgrounds etc for the higher career levels. Shouldn't just be badges.

Also mods, do sth about spammers such as the user below me. Ruins this channel.

[opal cargo]

Make it so that when I block someone that they can't queue into my team, even when I try waiting in lobby for them to get in another match I still end up with them in the same team somehow and it pisses me off because I know I'm about to lose 10 minutes of my time in wt

[wind flame]

Few problems that ruin the game imo.

• Riot shield not syncing with where it is. It'll block bullets to the exposed parts, because on the blokes screen, he was turned correctly. Make it so where the riot shield is on the server, it should block bullets. Not where it is on the client. It's a buggy mess, and it's surprising it's still in the game, considering how buggy it is.

• Anti cheat. i pray you are not banning 70% of the cheaters so you can ban them all in a massive ban wave soon. But holy heck man, every game has 2+. Based on download stats on cheats on easy-to-find places, it's like 80% of the playerbase that has some sort of cheats. Do. Better.
  also, people who spend money on your game, should not get a free unban by messaging Embark Rob. Laske is cheating, proudly, and is unbanned every single time. If the anti-cheat bans someone multiple times. Maybe it's because they are cheating. Wild idea.

• The goo gun having infinite, stuns, is just frankly insane. In a MOBA, that would be patched out asap. And stuns in that type of game means less than in a FPS. Goo should bounce off players, not make them throw their headset in anger.

• The medium class is getting less and less viable every patch. The ONLY reason to play them is for the demat. Their role as the support is just laughable at the moment.
  Nerf demat to not make it instant removable, like a little animation before it removes walls n' stuff. And give some love to the supportive aspects of the class.

[vivid seal]

what a take wow

[frank holly]

get the fucking sniper out of power shift bro holy fuck it's the most annoying ass shit in this entire game

I'd prefer to get ass fucked by 5 CL40's than have a single sniper in this game...

[rare rivet]

this game has/had the greatest melee integration in a shooter, we shan't lose it

[potent solar]

don't think the 93r, lhl1, pike, bow etc should be out sniping the sniper rifle. need some drop or dmg falloff

[slate cairn]

this game is so ass...... i never got my anniversary merch

[rough monolith]

Contact support

[errant crater]

nerf cl40, db
remove defib

[fair owl]

kyoto is trash, plz remove

[echo oak]

good game

[fiery patio]

Unplayable due to cheaters.

[fickle linden]

No need to be rude

[true pollen]

you tell em, jackdaw

[copper topaz]

I really like the badge system! It would be cool if we get more different badges, for example a club badge wo we can upgrade the more contracts we completed 😄 Or another example: a badge for "x kills in a single match" Or a 1,2,3,4,5 - Winstreak badge And very important: an overwiev what we need to do if we get a specific level of a badge (that we can see what is missing for the next badge)

[tired wolf]

CAN WE PLEASE SEE THE PING ? HOW MANY MORE SEASON DO WE NEED TO SEE THAT WE ARE LAGGING

[snow heart]

Is anti-cheat in The Finals just honest players? Lol

[surreal meadow]

FNI clan, lmao

[main notch]

cl40 must get nerfed

[violet elbow]

Respond in ape squad pls, cant be bothered to argue with a 6 hour slowmode on :)

[quartz coral]

is that swiftcheetah the youtuber

[quasi delta]

Day 13 of waiting until Embark is compliant with 2025 EU consumer protection guidelines.

[worn burrow]

i dont understand how the L heal h+ infuser made it into the game with the numbers that it has when we have a heal specialization with the numbers IT has
M heal = 220hp in 5.5sec
h+ infuser = 400hp in 1.5sec

and now 2 patches in the H+ infuser was not nerfed it either means embark thinks it is not OP and then i wonder why the M heal is not getting a buff
or it is too strong and i wonder how it even mad it into the game did no one compare the numbers of the M and L heal?

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them overpowered in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the first swing damage in the combo from 65 to 70 making it 70, 80, 90 and increase the spin attack damage to 120

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either give it a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357: increase the fire rate from 140 to 160 RPM

Dual blades: make the Deflect more consistent so it can block all melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit and make it so the blades deflect pellets from shotguns more consistently because right now it's bugged and it deflects more pellets at a certain range

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s

these emojis will highlight the message so anyone at embark can see them 🥇:🤠🤯😵:⚽️:grinning:😆🙃😇🫠

[glass notch]

Could I check if the Daily progress not showing / updating issue is still a thing?

[normal lance]

revert sledge nerf. its a miserable experience now.

[winter hound]

📢 LTM + TOURNAMENT SUGGESTION: “UNLOCKED” 🔓

🧠 Concept:
A limited-time Ranked mode where all class restrictions are disabled. Players can equip any weapon, gadget, and specialization, regardless of class.
Loadouts can be changed after death, allowing real-time counterplay.

🛠️ Key Rule Changes:
• No class lock – total gear freedom across Light, Medium, Heavy
• Loadouts can be swapped on respawn
• Standard rules (Cashout, Bank It) remain intact

🏆 Optional Extension:
Feature this as a Ranked Tournament variant for high-skill players to theorycraft & compete with wild builds.
Top teams would need adaptability, not just raw mechanics.

🎯 Why It Works:
• Breaks the meta in a safe, time-limited way
• Encourages experimentation and counter-strategy
• High replay value and great for clips/streaming
• Competitive twist gives Ranked players a fresh challenge

🧢 Flavor line:

“Hackers have breached the Finals system. No classes. No limits. Just mayhem.”

— Submitted by: @panda1

[upper citrus]

This should just be world tour. Ranked would devolve into dash spam sa12 heavies

[viral gorge]

Uhh the KS is amazing . Just takes a lot of time to learn it. I main it and consistently can win trades on MNK against even hard dashing lights.

[keen lily]

really Embark I am defending my cashout and I spawn 170 metres away on sys horizon, are you joking?! trash game

[fleet bolt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1l8q3wj/some_gyro_aiming_improvements_suggestions_that/

[broken crest]

DEAR EMBARK TEAM
DEAR EMBARK TEAM
I have one thing to say and that is that you should buff mele weapons like heavy hammer and dagger but why are you nerfing them at all I haven't seen anyone complaining in the community except (appoh) so I ask you if you don't want to lose players to buff them in the next update thanks

[orchid flame]

can we actually implement a good anti cheat? ive played against 2 blantant cheaters tonight. lost 700 rs, got back to where i was, just to play against another cheater to lose 700 again

[agile lake]

My newbee feedback, played like 50 in total hours so far, I hope the Embark team hears this!

• amazing game, fast paced FPS with some aspects of hero shooters, hits right in the need these days, I am having a blast, feeling addicted to get better at the game
• I found the entry point for newcomers good, I am enjoying it (still) and am a controller player who played COD the most, so I feel overwhelmed in some bits but I am sure I am not the only one here and getting the new bits feels kind of intuitive
• horrible experience as a solo player, I know it is just connected to the game concept, but there is no way one can find quick and easily players to play with in this game with similar play times and styles, definitely a big con for me personally. TDM is fine but for like an hour, then playing cashout urges and then ranked... and I eel like I am always playing against teams of 2 or 3 in cashout or ranked
• super horrible ranked experience (as a solo), is there really no way to make ranked better for solos? (besides being a monster at the game an carrying the whole team?) I am a bad player bronze 2 and I am being crushed constantly yet playing well as a team

[frozen tree]

Day 9: Here we go again (I’m sorry I keep repeating this it’s just easier than coming up with new stuff each time)

Big wishlist:
Revert sword nerf (PLEASE give it 140 lunge damage, it needs it)
Revert dagger nerf (let it backstab turrets again, and increase the angle)
Revert sledge nerf (at least the left click part)
Also with the sledge buff, nerf winch! It’s the problem!
Give riot shield’s baton a wider hitbox, as right now it’s really janky to try and hit lights
Increase dual blades deflection accuracy
Make CL-40 harder to use, it’s too easy for the reward it can give. This is a big contention point, so let me state my case. Weapons like melee and snipers are difficult to use, but very rewarding. Ars, lmgs, smgs, etc are easy to use, but less rewarding. I think CL-40 tries to be a kind of in between, but it is too easy to use right now. I think if it was slightly more difficult to play with, this would balance it.
Make breach drill faster and a maybe a bigger explosion
Bring back grenade grappling, and make it easier
Make m11 a close range option, XP a mid range one, and ARN a longer range one. Same thing with AKM, FCAR, and famas, respectively
Make heal ball work like guardian turret, not going on cooldown until destroyed/picked up and can be directly or remotely picked up, giving different levels of charge depending on which one it is
Nerf h+ healing a bit
Fix performance and freezing
Let us unlock the ultimate battlepass rewards as the $20 tier, and the 20 extra levels be part of the $30
There may be more, but this is what I think for now, and I’m open to suggestions and (constructive) criticism

[sand leaf]

and am I not right? the fact it delas 320 dmg with 1 single stab is just a game breaking nonsense… there’s nothing you can do against it when he’s dashing around you

[rotund rapids]

Can we fix hooking people when they're behind ffs

[manic sandal]

Maybeeeee could you just remove the cl40 from the game?

[tired escarp]

And? If the dude is top 200 with the CL-40 he has skill with the weapon, so try the weapon for a season in ranked or world tour and later give us your thoughts

[versed dagger]

add goo mines

[naive gust]

add stats for nerds

[uncut forge]

i don’t know if that would work seeing as if goo is popped on you, it bursts

[rustic tinsel]

If the Sword’s lunge doesn’t go back to 140 dmg,it’s just useless.If it’s under 140,you can’t use it against Medium or Heavy at all. and always countered by lights, whether before or after the nerf.
If you can’t kill a Light, you definitely won’t be killing Medium and Heavy. What’s meant to help Light usually ends up favoring Medium and Heavy more.

You must stop listening to nerf whiners.There’s no end to the nerf whiners’ whining. When something they wanted nerfed without any real balance reason(dislike cause skill issue) gets nerfed,they just move on to whine about the next thing.
These skill-issue players cry for nerfs to weapons they don’t use or can’t handle. even though they already have all tools and weapons.

About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so needs high DPS. DB is only viable up close, and it should 2-tap Heavy. That was correct, so reverted.
The same goes for Sword. As with the DB, you need to correct the mistake here this time too. Now, Sword has the worst TTK compared to any other weapon. Sword was built around close-range and Light’s low hp. it required specific dmg combinations for each classes.so lunge was 140 dmg.

Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + m1 + qm,
Heavy to 2(lunge + qm) or 2 lunges + m1.
This is the most ideal.

Quick melee combos naturally happen with all melees, and you intended it that way because they’re necessary. It just increases the skill ceiling.
Melees need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it makes sense that melee should strong up close range.
Melee has to hit a certain dmg threshold to even be viable. Since melee must has to get up close to the enemy, offense is always the best defense. The only way to improve the survivability and viability of melees is to give them enough dmg.

Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
Start keeping your promises.

[rain tulip]

bring back bank it please 💔

[stuck rock]

Could we maybe have a small buff to Lewis gun so there’s a good reason to pick it over the m60? And also maybe look at heavy grenade launcher? Another buff could be charge slam but not as much dmg as the old charge slam. Higher ranked matches just can’t use charge and slam for its low dmg and easy to play around nature.

[serene flicker]

My team just been wiped by a Cl-40 and flamethrower who were just spamming without aiming at any time, real pleasure to play ur game guys👍🏼💪🏼

[native berry]

5v5v5 quick cash when

[dusty igloo]

Cam we get any communication on all the goo gun issues that arent in patch notes, cause I still have not heard a single word and its not like no one has reported them

[north thunder]

Would love more options to the sound adjustment. For example; the audience. As there are some who have hearing issues and the audience just drowns all other sounds out or becomes tiring due to hearing aids and ultimately can't play the game due to this.

[exotic elk]

idk what yall did this season, but the amount of cancerous sniper lights plague this game now. NERF SNIPER

[lapis basin]

Daily reminder AGAIN at how shit this new wall hacks event is.. GARBAGE

[crisp parrot]

The CL40 is allowed to be a viable weapon

[wraith igloo]

If they ever do the wallhack event again I'm literally just skipping the week, one of dumbest things embark has done to date.

[spare harness]

Please revert the CL40 self damage back to the nerfed 1.6x value.

[kind peak]

The fact that you have to know someone who's in there says a lot considering 80% of the other mediums are running pike fcar famas model

[terse slate]

matchmaking is the biggest shitshow.. I am seeing only matches against 4000+ wins E1 or Ruby Players. Every match ends in a kd of lower then 0.10
Is the playerbase this dead or what is happening?

[shy current]

Mindblown that Embark thought oversaturation of healing would make the game more fun

[worldly pumice]

Mindblown that you thought everyone shares the same opinion as you

[feral ferry]

Tbh, I love the healing for all 3 classes. I have seen more team work from light and heavy players as a solo grinder than I ever did before. My teammates are not running around 1v3ing teams like bafoons anymore. Especially the light players that think they can take on the world and ends up humbled in the end. It is refreshing to know all 3 classes can now support the other off classes.

[faint island]

light needs self healing

[cobalt kernel]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[wispy ivy]

the option to change your number on cosmetics is great, now add the option to remove it entirely. there are so many interesting items that cant be used well because theres a bright orange number on them or something

[ripe trail]

Release server upgrade-dlc and take my money

[heady sluice]

Imagine a cash box decal or some

[pulsar dragon]

id like to see you upgrade the game engine to 5.5 or 5.6 is there any plans for that

[vivid seal]

try using it yourself before complaining

[hazy skiff]

Add horse

[iron jetty]

mac support soon pls I beg of you if it can do cyberpunk it can do finals

[scenic basin]

Solo que The elephant in the room - now when it comes to matchmaking I know everybody has different thoughts opinions and also feelings on this but if you play this game solo you do know how difficult it can be and if you play this game with a close friend you know how unreliable and sometimes just brand new the thirds can be I think a simple solution with how popular we've been seeing the finals get these past few months to a year is maybe people that are level one through possibly 30 just being matched together so we don't have to force a skill-based type of matchmaking possibly level 50 but I think this needs to be addressed because there are new players that I even run into who don't like getting dunked on by level 90s so this is something that kind of needs to be addressed

[unkempt bridge]

Give me back turret backstabs please (and goo if you are feeling generous) 😭

[tulip veldt]

What a terrible system, my own Internet disconnect. I’m only out of the game for five minutes., come back to win the complete. Second round and third round was in the game the whole time. Should’ve got 1500. RP, instead lost. Almost 3000.

[forest nymph]

What’s the best small class rn?

[pseudo leaf]

wait 6 seconds and something will happen.

[final solar]

cl is just ridiculous, when will you understand that, that weapon cannot be meta without being broken, just mkae it a fun weapon, but rn it's just breaking the game

[next timber]

For all of you bitching about the cl40, it just shows you're not as good as you think you are. It's the only answer to the cancer that is light players. Invisible double barrel and flash bangs? Sniper 400m away on some tiny thing you can literally only get to if you're light grapple? Heavy pair using shield mini gun and healing orbs? Yeah we mediums have been dealing with this since day one and now that we have a legitimate answer to those rat players you want to take it away? Get good and stop crying like little girls

[zinc oasis]

The CL40 has become a filter that separates people that think they are good because they have good aim but no game sense from the people that actually understand the game

[drifting topaz]

NERF DOUBLE BARREL

NERF CL40

[sonic arrow]

Cancer light players? if youre struggling to kill a 150hp light despite having defibs and essentially having +1 player per defib user you must really suck. What this also tells me is u either dont know light's kit or never touched the class. "sniper 400m away" I know youre exaggerating with the 400m but still the sniper becomes a projectile weapon after 40m. invis db tells me you dont listen to invis audio cues, theyre so loud when they move. As for getting to specific place? u can literally destroy terrain in the game

[harsh cliff]

Again a suggestion to improve ranked
Don't let people see each other's names in the lobby so people don't team up with other teams they know to grief other teams
2- somehow, don't show what team has what money so people don't grief the best team in the game.
3- maybe nerf CL-40? At this point the gun is just too much for the game.

[spare ravine]

bring back 180 backstab or fix the hit detection

[real wyvern]

CL40 would have never become so common if it did not outclass shotguns up close. Just my 2 cents.

Happens when short range weapons get nerfed for being effective at short range.
Now we have monkey playstyles with grenade launchers.
Spam space and click the floor.
Self damage barely matters.

[sonic arrow]

Comparing the model to Cl40 is literally just a false equivalency. Model is a shotgun with range and hitscan ammunition, that alone makes it a completely different playstyle than a projectile weapon well known for its struggles at range. Keep in mind that you have to lead a cl40 shot at longer ranges for it to get any sort of damage value, and that using high ground against it makes it pretty much impossible to fight back because of the projectile physics. None of these are issues that the model has, yet cl40 has to be the one whined about because it isn't a gun like model.

Cl40 is NOT model for shitters, they function completely different and I'm surprised you thought this was a good comparison

Also thanks for the gif, definitely takes the place of whatever counterargument you didn't want to type

[hoary swan]

cl40 is a model for shitters

[dire escarp]

nerf bullshit launcher

[royal ridge]

Hey, is it normal that I've been having trouble connecting since yesterday and the error TFLA0029 keeps appearing?

[broken crest]

DEAR EMBARK TEAM
DEAR EMBARK TEAM
I have one thing to say and that is that you should buff mele weapons like sword hammer and dagger but why are you nerfing them at all I haven't seen anyone complaining in the community except (appoh) so I ask you if you don't want to lose players to buff them in the next update thanks

[fleet quiver]

buff cl40 make it fully automatic and make sure it doesn't need to reload and also 300 damage per grenade

[proven crown]

DELETE THIS GODFORSAKEN EVENT. FOREVER

[twilit geode]

Cl 40 nerf when

[violet elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1311735951474688071/durrr.gif

[dusk solstice]

Matchmaking is so horrible in this game

[nova cairn]

plz give fcar 30 bullets and fix it’s recoil pattern, give all sights to the pike so i can use multiple sights instead of two, give all builds all types of grenades, give medium a healing gadget like a healing grenade, and give medium a movement specialization, buff arn for lights

[north dew]

Gold 2 - 58% win rate - Don't put me in a full ruby lobby with EVERYONE having 10x my ttime played

[quartz cedar]

ok

anyway, nerf CL 40 it is a complete bot weapon that requires 0 aim and 0 skill in close range fights

[tulip current]

Honestly your game is broken, the finals in S7 is the worst FPS i've ever played. The amount of desync, terrible hitreg, problematic server, bugs that makes it impossible to shoot or constant reloads or broken sights makes its the worst experience i've ever had and i played some bad f2p old korean shooters. Stop releasing skins and pointless updates like fixed the spawns of flower pots in Kyoto. Do something about the core of your f*ng shooter game.

[gray tundra]

Best thing I’ve found because I disconnect a lot is I have the finals on my Xbox, pc, and steam deck. So if I dc I load the game up on my Xbox or steam deck till I’m able to get back in on my pc then leave the game after so I don’t get a ban

[sick crown]

Day 3 of telling embark to nerf the gren launcher for med

[plush fjord]

Fix the servers. Desync is outta hand. Hit reg is awful. Servers keep lagging. Some stupid bugs, like revive stopping mid revive.

Fgs fix the servers

[hallow epoch]

NERF SH SHOTGUN
NERF THROWING KNIVES
BUFF M60S RANGE AND DAMAGE BY 1
BUFF AKM TO COMPETE WITH FCAR
BUFF FLAMETHROWER AGAINST MEDIUMS AND HEAVYS, IT KILLS WAY TOO SLOW AND ITS ONLY GOOD UP CLOSE
KEEP CL 40 WHERE IT IS
WEAPON IDEAS: We need more guns am already sick of using the same ars and lmgs
HEAVY:M249 SAW , BEOWULF 50 CAL ASSAULT RIFLE
MEDIUM: AUG, M4 , AR 15 with conversion kit for smg

[tacit whale]

Nerf CL40 by increasing the self damage to match the rpgs self damage and nerf the range on the db so the m26 can compete

Also put a damn trench coat in the game!

[hidden solstice]

Game matchmaking s dead....

[craggy wagon]

We need an explosive weapon on light and a sniper on heavy

[crisp heart]

add orbital lasers and dead go boom to TDM PERMANENTLY

[frozen elk]

just remove cl140 atp this shit is out of hand

[halcyon patio]

This is the 3rd match in power shift today where the losing team just went cl40 aps defib and won

And why can glitch grenades be countered by the aps again? That sucks so much

[analog glacier]

I use only Medium, NERF CL40!

[little radish]

If they want to be a competitive game, they need to remove the cl140. It makes no sense for a weapon that doesn't require skills to be in the game, just like the flamethrower.

[little wagon]

^^^^^

[lapis basin]

REWORK GLASS

DELETE THIS EVENT.

WORST SEASON YET WITH TGIS GARBAGE AND NERF CL40

[quaint portal]

Melee is not viable currently and Embark is taking every step to make it even less viable with each balance patch. I thought this game was supposed to be different to other shooters, but it is slowly becoming a battlefield/COD clone with a few gimmick gadgets and abilities. Sad to see.
Embark, stop taking advice from sweaty, cringe streamers that only play with guns, and focus on the aspect that make you game unique and fun.
Stop nerfing playstyle and build variety for the sake of renegade COD players, THEY ARE NOT YOUR AUDIENCE.

shotgun oneshots light at close range
Embark: 😄
Any Melee weapon oneshots a light at close range
Embark: 😡

Gotta love this logic, balance team.

Anyways,

Hey, Embark, can we get more colors for the basic tank tops? Maybe Red or Blue? Ty! Love the game! (balance it properly, plz)

[unique wasp]

genuinely the worst argument of all time

[abstract harbor]

Has anyone seen any announcement from Embark about addressing the rampant cheating? Seems like every console player has auto-aim on. I have to be playing like 90% Chronus users on console. There has to be something that can be done to address this.

[solid slate]

1. Nerf cl40 (a weapon that is so frustrating for other casual players to play against shouldn’t be so prominent in the meta)
2. Deaths due to self inflicted fire damage, self inflicted poison and self inflicted explosives (rpg and cl40) should still count as kills for the last player to damage that player, it’s just really annoying when I am about to kill a cl40 player and they blow themselves up on purpose

[merry field]

why can i not play private matches while i am suspended
why do i get suspended for leaving world tour
that's not what I'm asking @novel trench, I want to know why i'm suspended for leaving an unranked game

[novel trench]

You left a tournament mode, incurring a penalty. @merry field

[signal basin]

Update after S7 :

** General feedback **

Netcode is pathetic & (if there is) lag compensation is TOO MUCH STRONG. With a really good connection, I'm still dying behind cover after a dash. It just make me want to stop your game.

Cheaters are spreading and matchmaking is worst this season

New season, but still MMH / HHM META
I would LOVE to see your data on Light class & how weak & unbalanced they are

🎲 For the game 🎲

• In pratice game, add friendly fire option
• Improve your matchmaking in World Tour. No more Solo VS tri-stack
• Add "steps" in reload animation so when you climb on something during a reload, it's not completely reset.
• Add a report option " Sabotage " in the report section IG when people leave or AFK on purpose.
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
• Random charm list for weapons/gadgets. EDIT : Can we just choose our random skin & not all our skins ?
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
• Add the possibility to look at the banner of friends & recent players.
• **Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match. Like "only M and Dual Blade", "only Light and SR84", "only marksman", "No heal, Light only and grenade only". You can imagine all you want and put it in private match for streamer & their community to make the game more fun **

**⚖️ For balance ⚖️ **

• META Full heal. What's the point when, as Light, you get 2 shot by all the META weapons ? Buff Light weapons so they can get a kill before getting Thanosed The effort to play Light correctly is too damn high compared to Medium & Heavy class. There is no fun at all playing Light. Meanwhile Medium spam with CL40 and Heavy are unkillable with the new heal. When will we see a META with Light ? Stop listen cry baby and buff their DPS !
• REVERT CL40 BUFF. It's destroying the fun in your game
• Revert the nerf of the XP54. What's the point of putting XP at 16dmg when M11 (an other SMG) do the same, faster & with more bullets ?
• Rework Nulifier (again) : When you get it by the "Taser" your recoil is increased but you can still move as you want and you take 5 dmg/sec by the electricity during 3 sec. Can hit multiple target when you shoot.
• You shouldn't be able to right clic sword + dash. This double dash is unfair
• Nerf the CB01-Repeater damage or increase the recoil
• Rework Vanish Bomb. Make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light & it can be use for your teammates too !
• Reduce the radius of the reflect of the Dual Blade or let us shoot in the feet or something else to let us counter DB when you got an AR like Riot Shield.
• Nerf the range of the KS23. You can put 100 dmg at 20m.
• Nerf PIKE to 48 dmg instead of 50 dmg.
• Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive safer !
• Rework Sonar: Scan 5 times instead of 3 but if you don't move it can't scan you
• Winch & lockbolt shouldn't do damage. It's already strong enough
• Rework the ARN into a real AR ? Slower RPM but much more DMG. Something like the FCAR or AK for example.

** 🛜 Servers problems 🛜 **

• Improve your netcode / tickrate or I don't know what ! Dying behind cover it's one of the most frustrating thing in The Finals
• Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls, doors and farer than it should be
• Sword, dagger, DualS or all other melee weapon feels unfair when you think you're out of range and die anyway
• Having good connection = Death behind wall, door & anything else.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time

[near parcel]

i will give my opinion on this in 17 days

[uncut hedge]

bro nerfed the CL, they dont receive any dmg

[quiet frost]

Embark I need you to LOCK IN and stop giving me low levels in RANKED PLEASE GIVE RANK A RESTRICTION LOCK FOR NEW PLAYERS UNTILL THEY HIT A CERTAIN LEVEL OR PLAYED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GAMES

[little wharf]

@quiet frost we need that for world tour too 🙏🙏🙏 I just carried a game with a level 5 heavy and lvl 4 medium (as a light) and single handedly got us to 2nd place in the tournament (I’m level 71) - the most painful game I’ve ever played, this is why I avoid world tour

[marble hearth]

Give heavy a 50 cal marksman rifle

[viral trail]

The game is overrun by bots atm :S The season you make us pay the most is the season I've encounted bots

[wanton depot]

wow you are not good at this game

[worldly scaffold]

Holy moly, fix the cashout steal audio/ui not warning you in time, just lost a tournament becouse of it. Kinda pissed right now, could had easily won that cashout.
Also, fix the back items, they don't get saved with your outfits, it's annoying I can't edit any of my outfits, thank you.

[quartz dirge]

feedback delete this post

[crisp parrot]

I really hope embark doesn't make balance changes based on this kind of rage spam

[digital shoal]

Quality of life requests...

Can we set expressions wheels for all loadouts at the same time.?

Can you add descriptions to the emote selection area? I've got so many now it's kinda hard to comb through.

[pseudo latch]

FLAMETHROWER REWORK SUGGESTION
Flamethrower has been vastly underperforming for seasons, and considering the weapon is almost identical to the weapon it was back in OB, it’s about time for it to recieve some major changes.

• Increase its range back to 10 meters: Same range as open beta, its pretty much the only thing it hasnt gotten back.
• Increase overall DPS by 10: This will still leave it doing much less damage than most weapons, but at least it will be killing a medium faster than 3 seconds.
• Rework the "ADS" into an Alternate fire:
  - Alt Fire launches a fireball projectile that detonates on impact. Does 70 on a direct hit, trickles off to 30 damage at minimum range. AoE of 3 meters. Costs 5 Ammo to fire, RoF of about 90 RPM. Projectile is about as heavy as current Anti Grav Cube (no "sniping" people with fireballs)
  This would give Flamer a bit more utility and viability at range, without completely invalidating its primary fire.

SPEAR REWORK SUGGESTION
Spear as it stands just isnt working. The spin is a fun idea but its too high commitment, and far too easily punished or whiffed. It’s a fun idea but it needs to go.

• Alt fire is replaced by a spear throw:
  -upon alt fire, Heavy "charges" a spear throw (similar to how TK alt fire works) allowing them to throw a 100 damage spear projectile, with the same weight and speed of a CL40 grenade.
  This gives spear some utility no other melee can claim, allowing heavy to follow up kills that would otherwise get away from him. Though the DPS would obviously be rather low to punish spamming.

KS-23 REWORK SUGGESTION
The KS23 has been in a sore spot since its addition, what little times its stood in the spotlight very swiftly nerfed out of existence, and in the state its in, its been very cruelly power crept out in lieu of other, more reliable close range options like the SA12 and the minigun. More than anything its main gimmick of being an accuracy weapon that isnt perfectly accurate has lead to it having significant issues, and i think more than anything, that needs to go.

• Primary fire has been changed from a single projectile to a ten pellet spread. Triangular "ten pin bowling" arrangement.
• Each pellet does 10 damage each, and 100 structural each. (maybe 11-12 each but i know we want to avoid QM "kill combos, though my opinion on that is we should just let lights die fast)
• Reload now uses the "double shell" animation regardless of if the weapon has been emptied or not: speeds up general reload time when weapon isnt emptied
  This change would give the weapon more reliable consistency in combat without sacrificing its main gimmick of destruction. Failing that JUST MAKE IT PERFECTLY ACCURATE LIKE CMON

Oh and like, just make the MGL grenades explode on player contact. Like cmon, TF2 figured this shit out 17 years ago.

[unkempt bridge]

corners, glitch traps, lock bolt, wench claw, distance and probably another dozen things
not even corners actually with the angle nerf walls work, have you actually tried to use dagger? it is so handicapped and inconsistent its actually ridiculous, the only dagger players you see anymore have already honed their skills with it

[patent portal]

please stop making challenges for us to play these horrible game modes(power shift and terminal attack).

[midnight aurora]

infrared vision needs to have a red glint so you know people are running it otherwise its impossible to tell

[chilly hazel]

Pls don't something about sts you need to get more per match like add daily quest and remove the limit you need over 366 and your not guaranteed one after every match

[ocean shore]

pleaseeee add a piercings category to the customization menu i think that'd be a great next addition to the unique character creation

[quick coyote]

Optimize NOZOMI/CITADEL that map drops my frames like hell, even Kyoto runs good but the new one doesn't.

[pure robin]

Can I get a horizontal and vertical sensitivity bar for mesh shield on console please. It's too slow to turn against PC players and lights

[swift panther]

Please disable defib in team death match. It has 0 utility in this mode and is either used by new players or griefers.

[hollow sage]

why do you ALWAYS spawn us 180m from our own cashbox when we are lucky enough it hasnt been stolen yet?? Not occasionally. EVERY time, spawns us next to the box with 16 seconds left and not ours with half a timer left.

[quick coyote]

please stop recolouring cosmetics

[crimson oak]

Matchmaking is bootycheeks, I keep getting thrown into powershift matches where the team I’m on is already losing but it is all the time now.

[hazy skiff]

add horse

[proven crown]

Spawns on new map are SO bad. Wipe a team only for them to ambush at the station it's ridiculous

[glad pike]

Use the sensitivity boost

[feral ferry]

I legit think every non skilled loser plays the CL40 and advocates for it to be not nerfed. It needs to legit be a 100% self destructive in regards to doing damage to yourself if used improperly.

[dull tiger]

New types of cosmetics instead of slowly making it more predatory

[quasi delta]

lmao

[tepid fog]

uh so yeah this game is still dogshit... convinced devs dont play this shit. gotta have constant aimbot & esp to get a kill and live for more than 2 seconds in a casual gamemode

[pliant lichen]

It's the same reddit crowd that wants 2 nades for their free cheese kills back. 800 hours in and I've never seen a weapon craze so unhealthy for the game. Something will be done about CL-40 next patch because it's blatantly obvious to any thinking person that it needs to be addressed.

[shy current]

100%
Game was amazing, dev’s cooked it to shit. 1600 hours and very sad to see what they’ve done

[torpid quarry]

Fix nose clipping

[pliant whale]

fix this dogshit matchmaking, I just want fair games

[woven hawk]

can someone please give me a legitimate reason as to why denying a defib in TDM isn't possible? How can we be FORCED back, surrounded by 5 enemies only to die & lose in the end, so my teammate can get +1 stat? again and again?

I was rank 1 TDM and sponsor last season by a long shot, so I got teamkilled more than anyone else. I waited weeks, then months for SOMETHING, even a comment, but not even a word came. Just endless, unreportable & punishment-free teamkilling. Cheaters? Teammate gas & fire? it's ok, I can report if it happens 10 times a game. Defib teamkill? Just keep eating it.

[gleaming gust]

4 things for quality of life:

1. add ability to change gun sight in practice range
2. give us more reticles to use with our sights and allow us to change them and unlock more by using specific sights
3. add round number to ranked/world tour scoreboard
4. allow gun/weapon class dedicated crosshair option, so if i want to use a cross for my smgs but a circle dispersion for my shotguns, i dont need to manually change every time i swap guns

[lapis basin]

NEVER bring back this dogshit wall hack event…

NERF CL40 and at a minimum increase its own splash damage. Fucking pointless even running melee anymore when they can spam shot their own feet and barely get hit.

BUFF SWORD AND DAGGER

[mild root]

We have more important matters than Buffs and Nerfs.. WHEN IS BANK IT RETURNING?!?? 🥲🥲🥲

[rotund gust]

please add an effects customisation tab so we can remove and swap them

[neat yoke]

Hello

[robust patio]

why isn’t the level 90 body paint separated into face and body? i don’t want the black lips, just the rest of the body

[slender pine]

(1) heal meta is horrific (2) spawn logic is horrific (3) weapon balancing pushing ARs only is horrific (4) i love everything else about the game

[rotund oxide]

Mom said it's Cl-40's turn to shine. Dont TUNE IT TILL NEXT SEASON.

[still crater]

The flame thrower is not competitive enough. I believe it needs a range buff of 1 m more. Because light players are coward by nature. Even though they have more powerful weapons.

[plush dove]

soo does embark have an explanation as to why it reset my settings. and I mean everything has reset. i’m literally back to default and don’t remember what I had tweaked my controller to exactly since i’ve had these settings since season 2. now I gotta start from scratch. seriously what a joke of a company

[sick forum]

as a light main since OB i truly have no problem with the Cl-40. yes its super punishing when they have high ground etc. but one of the most straightforward to counter and not always viable

[sinful finch]

we need a way to access the after action report after closing it while still on the main menu. also nerf flash durration again.

[safe ginkgo]

add feature where you can change sights before games

[crisp parrot]

It already does that

[sterile wharf]

hear me out on this idea, on the outside area of the practice range (like the outdoorsy looking thing) you could add a terminal similar to the one at the place where you do challenges but in this terminal you can pick different environments (like the environments in kyoto and other maps), game events, and time of days (like night, day, noon) so people can get even better practice in dealing with environments.

[slow flax]

W

[coral seal]

embark please nerf the cl 40 its too prominent and frustrating in every gamemode. I had games in tdm and powershift where 4/5 people just switched to it the moment they started losing its getting beyond annoying. The worldtour event is also not fun, the green "scan " tint strains my eyes and as said the event is not fun in any way, not for anyone, not even winning with it is fun

[feral shard]

Day 34 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)

It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes

It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex

Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it

(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)

(Also also, embark, please mother of god put new merch i want to spend money)

(I lov sord)

[surreal meadow]

bro gets it

obligatory add 5v5 and 3v3 Final Round to public queue

[simple ether]

I love how even when you block cheaters in this game, Embark still forces you to play with them. This game is insane

[elfin arch]

Dash sword heavy attack quick melee needs to get hit again, say skill issue all you want, it's too much mobility and too much damage way too fast, perfect fix, remove quick melee from melee weapons, what's the point of a light attack if all the best damage comes from spamming heavy and quick melee

[keen torrent]

skill issue

[wooden atlas]

Hey Embark, just getting on here to say that, despite any and all complainers, you’ve still made a very fun and unique game. This season has been better and more fun than most all of its predecessors. Keep it up my friends 🫡 and long live The Finals!

[quartz shell]

charge n slam shouldnt do more than 100 damage per player
also improve the dual blades deflecting to it, even though you are pointing right at the heavy it stills does damage to you

[tranquil abyss]

would love to get an update that is pure optimization. I have lost more and more frames with each update and it is getting frustrating.

[untold meadow]

yeah so, this the reason why we left this back in sz 1... this event has been the most annoying holy fck! (recon sens)

[glass cape]

Hey everyone, just wanted to share some honest feedback about matchmaking for new players.

I’ve been playing The Finals for about a month now and have already invested quite a bit of time and money. Quickplay is great and I really enjoy it — I win about 60% of my matches there, so I can see my aim and game sense improving. 🎯

But in Ranked and World Tour, it’s been brutal. 😞 I keep getting matched with players who’ve been Emerald, Ruby, or Diamond for multiple seasons. I can tell from their game sense and experience — it’s not just about aim, it’s how well they know the maps, movement, and strategy.

For context: I’m 26, I work full-time as a software engineer 👨‍💻, and I play mostly late at night and sometimes in the evening. I love competitive games, but I don’t have unlimited hours to grind like veteran players who’ve been around since Beta. It feels really discouraging when every Ranked match just means getting stomped by people with so much more experience.

I play in the Asia region 🌏, so I understand the player pool is smaller. But honestly, I’d rather wait longer for a fair match than be forced into one I can’t win. It’d really help if the system could hold back on unfair matchups or expand brackets for newer players so they have a chance to enjoy Ranked too.

Hope the dev team keeps improving Ranked so it stays fun and rewarding for everyone, not just long-time players. 🙏 Would love to hear if anyone else feels this way or if there are plans to address it. Thanks for reading!

[drifting topaz]

• NERF CL40

• NERF DOUBLE BARREL

• NERF HEALS

[celest egret]

I like this idea. Would be nice to also add the Map Events to that terminal like Low Gravity

[sonic arrow]

Nerf cl40

another niche pick that appears annoying but never overpowered

yeah lets keep nerfing things that arent guns

embrace the full auto meta, the finals will become a CoD game

[rare vessel]

Leave player banners visible for the entire duration you are spectating please.

[ruby dew]

BUFF THE DAMN FK SWORD!!!!!!

[restive radish]

[drifting pawn]

xpose event is whack. not a fan, just my 2 cents. not very creative and pretty lame

[sonic spoke]

Game feels horrible over the last 2 days. I can't tell if the servers are crappy or of the wallhack/aimbot/recoil scripts are just out of hand. It is happening every hand i have played in the last 2 days. Something is up.

[paper river]

Arn does not work. I have tried multiple different builds, and configurations, but every time I use this gun, my kills go from 10+ to 0-1. The gun does not have the damage it is made out to have and the mag switch is so stinking slow that most times I get killed before i even get to the second mag. if you are asking if the problem is my aim, I can assure you that I main medium revolver and get 16 kills in a TDM easily when I am in the zone. The Arn simply does not have the damage required to keep pace with the light class, and the speed needed to actually be of any use other than a backliner.

[frozen tree]

Please

[acoustic arch]

WHY AM I LOSING A FULL AMOUNT OF POINTS IN RANKED IF MY TEAMMATE IS DISCONNECTED FOR ALMOST THE ENTIRE GAME. THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOSS MITIGATION FOR AFK/DISCONNECTION.

[versed hazel]

CL40 just feels like a crutch weapon that even veteran players swap to when they're getting dunked on. can we get some kind of refresh on it because this just feels toxic

[ornate sage]

Day 4 of asking embark to add more outfit slots I want to spend more money.

[gritty turtle]

Some guy told me to play ranked if I want skill based matchmaking, and now I’ve been looking for a match for 10 minutes and nothing ☹️

[zinc oasis]

Since everyone here is only telling you guys to nerf stuff based on personal gripes here is some actual feedback on something that needs fixed.
The duel blades are one of the coolest weapons in the game but their performance is really bad and not just because of being underpowered or a niche pick. The entire gimmick of reflecting shots doesn’t even work sometimes making almost unplayable.
Please buff more weapons that are underperforming instead of nerfing everything that is over performing.

[pure rain]

[versed dagger]

goo mines

[hot solstice]

The wall hacks game mode is really annoying and not fun. It makes it so you are punished for flanking and not playing on your team completely

[leaden shell]

me being someone that has been using the cl40 way before it was buffed i do understand its purpose in the current meta because the light class is becoming wildly overwhelming and oppresive especially since mediums arsenal is running dry from all the nerfs..as of right now the cl40 is one of the most consistent ways to deal with double and triple light teams or even invis lights that just hide and wait for u to walk by. its designed to defend cashout and to punish light and mediums out of position and it does that job well. the cl40 isnt even remotely broken its just one of the best options cause everything feels like ass. now most say its a skilless weapon cause it basically requires only half ass aim wish is half ass true but ill leave that for another discussion but for the cl40 to be effective u have to have good positioning...its the same regarding how to beat the cl40..again if ur out of position ur playing its game and will most likely lose...kinda like trying to beat a xp54 at long range with a model..it wont go well...the best way to beat cl40 is movement and height wich is 2 skills u should have on a regular basis anyway..now if a heavy losing to cl40 ur just bad cause every weapon in the heavy arsenal should 1v1 the cl40 in theory but this is the finals after all and stuff happens..basically cl40 doesnt need a nerf..other weapons need buffs ty.

[molten jackal]

A little game breaking moment... if you run three heavies with drop shields, mesh shields, and miniguns in world tour, you've pretty much won. Nothing you can do against that.

[untold willow]

Nerf GL

[umbral token]

glitch grenade

[burnt notch]

Glitch easily counters that build if ur good enough

[neon bobcat]

^

[jaunty vapor]

Fix ranked

[ruby timber]

Nerf pike

[stark girder]

L

[novel trench]

Give us tank tops with midriffs I’m begging on my hands and knees

[errant crater]

gg this game is gar b now. Just shooting at shields 24/7 and people that get sucked off by heals. no one dies.. and if they do they get defibbed

its like overwatch with double shield meta but worse

then u got the noobtube spam

glitch nades arent reliable enough. too wonky and bouncy. they need to be impacts and given to every class but then again thats not healthy

[quasi apex]

can we slide and reload?

[worldly pumice]

The argument that positioning is vital for CL players which makes up for its skill disparity to me is like... it's quite literally the same for every single weapon, class, and gadget like you just said. The thing for me about CL40 is not that it's extremely broken; on the contrary, it's a pretty niche weapon that only has optimal usage at midrange with high ground advantage but the fact that dying to explosives when users only need to look in my general direction to kill me rather then aim an actual gun or risk dying to get up close with a melee weapon is really discouraging, same as dying to a randomly thrown nade or getting one shot by mines and explosive barrels. I'd rather die to someone who puts in the additional effort to aim their weapon or get close enough to melee like the rest of us rather than someone who looked at the ground to 2 shot me, even if they do end up dying to themselves too, hence why people call it low skill.

[lapis basin]

BUFF SWORD BACK TO 140 LUNGE

[woven elk]

protocol xpose is just dumb. No skill required, no pulses, no limitation, just 100% removes walls. Dumb event can’t wait for it to be over and buried forever.

[queen walrus]

Ok Embark I'm cooking again... imagine a sticky note bomb that you could throw that would temporarily cover parts of your screen with sticky notes that say random messages. They would gradually fall of a little at a time. It would be both hilarious and rage inducing... that's my idea for today... k byeee

[pine frigate]

for the love of god nerf double barrel its the most unfun thing to play against