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What is up with the freezing in place? Nothing like jumping on an enemy and stopping mid air, can't move and then get laser to death đ
give the ks23 perfect hipfire accuracy, every projectile weapon has perfect hipfire accuracy and every shotgun has perfect hipfire accuracy but for some reason the ks23 (despite being both of those) does not
Server buff when
servers and healing orb ruined s7
Demat is the strongest Specialization in the whole game, it has three quickly replaced charges and makes traveling through walls instant, no c4 no rpg, nothing itâs the easiest way to get through walls and close them again, that being said it should take some time to open the walls in and give ppl a chance to react or listen for a longer sound que itâll also make running from it a bit easier and predicting
22k+22k+7k...=60k?
That's 51k Devs...
Hire me to do the math, even all arbitrary factors adding rep would add up to 52k....still 8k off, and if we're going to base score off of seeding....the seeding is all wrong and people are getting screwed over. Ranked is a joke, it gives less than World Tour gives, has the same level of competitiveness as you can look at the leaderboards in S2 and S3-S4. Everyone split off from Ranked to WT, some stayed.
Make a new mode.
Dear Finals devs. Please fix your servers, they're the worst servers I've ever had the displeasure of coming across in any videogame. I EXCLUSIVELY lag in The Finals and no other game, my wifi is perfectly fine, I can watch videos in 4k quality easily. Please make your servers not poopy.
wtf embark, nerf CL
Does embark even read this channel for feedback? Especially since its mostly just rants to nerf whatever the ranter just died to?
why fart censored fix IMMEDIATELY
I have some fantastic non-rant feedback:
allow players to set the random weapon skin to change it every death, that way they can see more than just one skin per game.
servers are still awful
anybody getting hit by tfg0024 error codes right after joining a game?
Issue with sights on weapons defaulting to iron sights with an optic attached. can be fixed by swapping to equipment but it happens a lot. I have lost many fights because of it.
Better tickrate servers please
Also bring the white bob hair from wheel of love event to store, I refused to pay 8 euro at the event for junk filler items to get one hairstyle
Instead of having no multibucks for all the legacy battlepasses, giving 1150 every odd battlepsss (as in S1, S3, etc.) would be cooler and more affordable
wildcard worthy update on the servers
Servers still dying :(
No, it's to make people think they're heard and that the devs care
sidenote since theres a 4 hour slowmode
the game is pretty much unplayable with the current freezing issues
arn on mnk = mediocre
arn on controller = strong af
i dont want to switch to controller
Just gotta work on your recoil pattern, try the new bot modes in training they are good for practice
CL-40 being the most picked weapon in every game mode right now is the direct result of people like you whining nonstop to nerf every single weapon you canât stand.
Once CL-40 gets nerfed, whatâs next?
Are you gonna cry for your opponents to get random mouse sensitivity, just so you can win?
Instead of crying for a CL-40 nerf like itâs ruining your whole fking life, why donât you cry for some actual buffs to other weapons so we can finally see something else in the game?
Servers still feel extremely laggy, i get froze mid air at times, and my dashes dont propel me forward.
this game feels PC priority when it comes to anything feedback or fix related
devourer hair mesh looks very very wonky on other faces, it looks like your character is literally balding, pls fix embark ($30 skin)
Can we, as community, advocate for the introduction of in-game ping stats?
Pelican
âIncreased rates of negative sentiment from players on the receiving end of the Sledgehammer, who feel they can never compete against it at close range.â
Guess what? you literally cannot compete against guns at long range with a hammer either. Are you nerfing guns? No? Then why the hell should melee weapons NOT strong at close range? Thatâs literally their one job. Youâre trying to deny the basic logic of melee design.
âWhile the size of these damage changes initially looks quite large, they are very targeted. For the most part, they donât change the number of âhits to killâ in most cases, with only one or two match-ups being affected.â
Only one or two match-ups? You do realize there are only THREE classes in this game, right? And Every match-up is affected. hammer and sword is now so weak against ALL of them. Do you even play your game?
âThey do, however, reduce the number of possible attack combinations that can be combined with quick melee attacks to get kills in fewer hits, for example a primary attack plus a quick melee versus a Light.â
Do you know why players relied on quick melee combos? Because that was the most usable way to secure kills with melee weapons.The others were barely meaningful, so they were not used. but You nerf that without adding anything else, just raw damage reduction, and expect the weapon to function? Are you seriously out of your minds? Melee weapons need to kill quickly once they finally close the gap. If they donât, useless.
Even before the nerfs, approaching with sword or hammer didnât guarantee a win. So what the hell are you balancing here? Are we even playing the same game?
âAs always, Weâll monitor the impact of these changes once live and adjust if necessary.â
Right, as always, you say youâre âmonitoringâ the underperforming weapons like youâve done so far by ignoring them.
You guys are so lazy. Itâs a live-service game, but you canât even deliver frequent patches, let alone proper ones.
Couple things it like to see: Renaming Loadouts (For e.g. Heavy Sledge, Medium Support, Medium DPS) and when i get a kill that it shows me and my team if it was a Headshot or not
nerf light healer, and there is a glitch that u can aim with ur teammates statues and u cant run unless use the right clikc
Kyoto is the worst map. Performance is poor, and gameplay is sub-par. It's also one of the prettiest, for what it's worth.
I completely agree with this opinion.
Itâs honestly frustrating to see Embark keep going for nerf-heavy balance patches just because of constant complaints asking for every decent weapon to be nerfed.
Increasing TTK or BTK only makes the game feel slower and more boring, and itâs inevitable that more players will end up quitting.
What we really need is not balance patches that make every weapon unusable, but updates that focus on buffing underused weapons so we can actually have more variety in whatâs viable.
I hope the devs consider moving towards a buff-oriented approach to balance, instead of just nerfing every weapon that players find usable.
Change sledge m1 ->110 and the m2 -> 175. I understand that sledge is strong up close. However by changing the damage, it's a lot harder to kill enemies now. It effectively changed the ttk, takes an extra a .75 seconds to kill, even longer for heavies. And for melee, why use it when a range option can just kill faster and at least put out damage from a distance. Melee needs to kill fast in this game to be effective. We already have to position ourselves to be effective, but right now. Even if we do. Its a lot harder to do anything, especially when every class has a way to heal
remove the suspended platform variant for bernal on powershift its entirely one sided
ppl want to use (effective) things that aren't ARs/SMGs and cl40 is the only outlet left on medium so yeah cl40 everywhere
revert melee nerfs, nudge shotguns up, drop the mgl rework already
Yall need to stop removing âlight one shotsâ. Let the fragile assassin class be fragile. Youâre gutting every other weapon in the game to appease bad light players
cant sprint right after shooting
Remove consoles from pc crossplay..average pc players is too good for above average console players
Letting sword rot is crazy - came back to play one game after months of uninstall - thanks for ruining my fav aspect of the game
Here are some LTM I thought of:
Can we get heavy hitters again but instead of hammers its only RPGs and you go flying when your hit? Or maybe a mode where you play dodge ball with the healing emitter as lights with evasive dash but make the strength of the throw and damage really high so you get one shot if you get hit. Make a parkour PVP mode with light + jump pad where its a two lane race with thin structures and long jumps but give us goo grenade or goo gun to disrupt or slow down the players on the other side, put ziplines and jump pads and other types of structures that can be fun for a parkour race. Make a hide and seek mode where its one heavy with a hammer and winch and nine lights with cloak and smoke/flash, make cloak considerably longer but let there be a subtle noise to it when theyâre moving like how it is with vanish bomb.
Thats all thanks!
Idea originally from Hunter
Heavy weapon: Bricks or rocks
Primary hits the contestant with one of two bricks in your hand dealing 80 but the secondary lets you toss two bricks at the enemy dealing 90 each
Its like heavies version of throwing knives
(Fw the numbers as you want in not a balancer)
- Please fix ranked system the fact that players loose >1k rs for last place is crazy when they get put in 8th seeding while 3stacking. What ends up happening they loose 1k in 10 minutes and to earn it back they have to sweat for 20 minutes to earn 1k for 2nd place for 3rd they get only 600rs which means they overall lost 400 rs in about 40 minutes of gameplay that is insanely discouraging đŚ 2. Gawd damn we need to put some money in advertising the game guys (maybe even pay some streamers to play, the game IS READY to be BIG)!
every game use to be Cerberuses now its cl40s both do damage and both require minimal aim, how hard is it to understand weapons which are hard to use should be granted power while the ones easy shouldn't be example cb 01 repeater, dagger, .50 akimbo.
Constantly crashing on Xbox series X, shutdown itself... Same since season 1... Please fix this...
Can we actually buff The Lewis? I feel like it hasnât been touched in a while but it seems to be underperforming lately no?
This might be a hottake, but if you get defibbed, you should at least have access to use your ability. Not saying you need access to your gadgets or to have full health or ammo, but it could play into strategy to allow them to have their ability.
as of rn, when you get defibbed youre just a sitting duck 90% of the time waiting to die
Can we please get keyboard support for console đ
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data reshaper needs more love; heres a few suggestions for buffs that id love to see for it
add very short cd after using so you dont accidentally use all charges at once and louder sfx when successfully reshaped
more range
third charge
dynamic cd depending on what you have reshaped (much higher cd for guardian turret or a lot of objects (like three mines), much lower cd when reshaping prox sensor, antigrav cube, or aps turret)
reshape thrown nades
reshape each individual goo blob
reshape ally barricades
also are the servers shitting itself or is it just me? im in asia servers which are usually good but today ive been getting really bad ping spikes which hasnt happened before, even at the start of the season.
goo gun might ned some love but not to much like maybe a secondary shot that shot a compacted goo blob thats just a goo nade maybe worse?
A Speed boost (double sprint?) specialization for medium, like how cloak works for lights. It would make their melee options more viable and give the medium some much needed horizontal mobilization, works with jump pad for further jumps just like how light can dash into it.
eh every time i see this rec as a goo main i just dont see the point, id never use it, goo gun is alr full auto
Make us able to select favorite skins for the guns skin randomizer, maybe we wanna play with one specific set of skins and not our entire skin inventory.
imagine if the game just worked
I'm sorry but spawns rn are a joke. There are ALWAYS 2 teams it's so BAD
fr blue screen and crashing every second
Two New Specializations
To improve class balance and give players more variety, Iâm proposing two new specializationsâone for the Medium class and one for the Light class.
Right now, Heavy has four specializations, while Medium and Light only have three. These additions would give all classes equal depth and tactical flexibility.
Medium Class â Kinetic Repulsor
Emit a radial shockwave that pushes back enemies, projectiles, and throwables around you.
Light Class â EMP Beacon
Deploy a beacon that can be remotely activated to disable enemy gadgets and abilities.
Sponsor Zone
The Sponsor Zone is a permanent section in the game menu that expands and enriches the current sponsor system.
Full Sponsor Directory
All sponsor profiles are permanently visible and accessible within the Sponsor Zone.
A clear visual timeline shows when each sponsor was active.
Indicates whether the player signed with them or not.
Sponsor Shops
Each sponsor has a dedicated shop offering non-exclusive cosmetics, including outfits, accessories, weapon skins, and emotes.
Players can browse and purchase items from any sponsor at any time.
If youâre signed with a sponsor, you receive special discounts on their items during your active contract.
Sponsor Leaderboards
Each sponsor features a global leaderboard ranking players based on the total number of followers earned while signed with them.
This system encourages loyalty, seasonal rivalry, and replayability.
Media Gallery
Every sponsor has a media gallery showcasing official videos and images related to their brand.
This adds depth to the sponsor identity and strengthens immersion within the game world.
Can you please fix the bug where tokens and players go through walls and glass?
For example, I set a token down next to a wall and it pops up on the other side of it. Needless to say, it was in a terrible position where I could not res my teammate. This isn't the only time it has happened.
Playing heavy sucks when you got top tier light players throwing doo doo beans on your sneakers, Heavy needs a sand trap or like some kind of belt device like the rocket thing that holds people in place that grabs light players sneaking up behind you with the sword and knife play. Maybe a bear trap with an auto cannon attached so when the tip tier light player gets stuck in it the auto-cannon fires at the thing in the bear trap. Shoes with bear traps and auto-cannons so you can eat taco-bell without getting food on any electric devices
dual blades buff make the third attack deal 100 damage
Please add auto ping for shooting enemy targets it would be such a relief to have in the game
Really dun understand why embark wan develop half way damage range fall but not fully develop for all gun. I just dun understand the dummy brain of theirs
make quick cash quick again! 10 - 15 sec respawns max! đ
yea feel you , M60 much better for now with holo sight
BUFF DAGGER ALREADY AND FIX THE GAME WHAT KIND OF GAME ANNOUNCES ESPORTS WHEN THIS IS COMMON
I feel you brother u.u
Started playing dagger recently, its really hard
Please add an avoid list. I do not want to play with the same light who went 0-10 twice in a row thank you
Why are there rubys and diamonds in my world tour games constantly. Ever since the start of this season I feel like Iâm playing ranked in whatâs supposed to be the casual mode.
fix the showtoken system i went got a win got no tokens and buff the showtoken gain
What are they supposed to do though? There is no solution to this, you can't stop people playing the game with others because of their rank
Hereâs the thing, since itâs the beginning of the season, all the ranks are still kinda jumbled together. Theyâll be sorted into their respective ranks by like 7.2.
cl40 needs a tone down. It is a fun weapon to use and should be in the game but for the love of good embark overdid it. buffing qol with the arc and the projectile speed was ok but pairing this with buffing the "Direct hit area" something which shouldn't exist imho just pushed it over the edge.
I knew this when we had the cash for kill event last season but now the weapon is so prevalent it is literally sucking the fun out of the game. Buffing aps was nice but it doesn't help the other two classes.
Here is what i think should be the solution:
- Buff direct hit damage maybe 120
- remove the "direct hit area"
- scale splash from 90 down
Numbers of course are just a guess but this allows embark to adjust the numbers almost for each class. heavies are more likely to get direct his while lights will most likely take splash damage. also direct hit damage can be hugely satisfying to pull off (shazbot!) so it should be rewarded with big damage similar to a head shot.
Can we add an brilliant point on the front sight of the CB-01 Repeater "Ospuze Injection" skin for both the Iron Sight and Circular Iron Sight? I find it odd it didn't even had one in the beginning while the other skins have it!
Can we nerf dagger more? For shits and giggles?
I was gonna say cl-40 didnât need a nerf but I guess I just didnât get into jobless lobbies and then yeah nerf it please
For the love of god, look at the 3 least used weapons and 3 least used gadgets from each class, and buff them.
Just do that for one patch I beg you, and see how the community reacts, I bet it would be more positive than if you just keep nerfing things.
Bf3 style rush mode
Dear EMBARK TEAMDear EMBARK TEAM I have one thing to say about your patchotes we real the last patchotes are right against Mele Weapons properly shit I see no one wants the weapons that the weapons are generated as Z. Dagger or Hammer and Sword (except Appoh) But they do it anyway they only lose your players because that annoys. That's why I ask you to BUFF the weapons again especially hammer and sword in the next UPDATE thank you
Fix the game freeze sprint bug reaload bug cant even go to ranked game with this shit
Nerf the range on the sawn off đŤ
Remove suicide in deatmatch, I don't think it gives cash to the enemy team. You can get a heavy to 1 HP and they can suicide by rpg, giving your team nothing. Suicide should count towards the score. Unless it already does, just feels like it doesn't
hey đ i have one question about the patch video, why is it encrypted ?
it's so hard to extract it to make a video about the latest patch
||WAIT 4 HOURS COLLDOWN ?||
btw thanks yt-dlp, but my question is still here
FIX SERVERS
Need to make a little auditive feedback when you get theal from the light healing beam, not knowing if you are getting healed or not is confusing
I would love a UMP-45 in the game, maybe an SMG for the medium or heavy class to justify the higher caliber?
can you add more baseball cosmetics so I can eventually make the Batter from Off thanks
sorry but how is that even "game-feedback" at all? no constructive criticism or anything, just a shit post made for "im13andthisisdeep" nothing thought provoking
Melee is dead. Pls embark fix sword to 125 lunge damage
I can see how the new healing meta is annoying. I just lost a game of power shift to a team that all sat on the platform with a heal beam, 2 healing emitters and an h+ and there wasn't really anything we could do
Is anybody freezing for like 1 min mid match/mid fight?
yes
đ´ NERF CL40!
đĄ BUFF SERVERS!
đ˘ DELETE GRAVITY EVENT!
nama tama healing emmiter skin would be cool
please some form of skillbased matchmaking, its not fun to play against people who insta kill you no matter where you are or people who don't know how to use a gun
Welcome to the game-feedback channel where 99% of the "feedback" is either not really feedback or people complaining about something that needs a nerf or something that they personally dislike (ofcourse certain items should be nerfed it just saddens me that all the good game feedback is overwhelmed by people spamming "Embark is killing their own game with this change no one likes it" or "i do not know how to counter certain gadgets or strats so its either overpowered and unfair)
All modes have some form of SBMM. Itâs strongest in ranked. Main things that make it only moderately effective are the relatively very small number of higher tier players and the playerbase being fairly stretched over different modes.
YOOOOO FIX THE SERVERS EVERYONE KEEPS FREEZING MID MATCH AND ITS A NIGHTMAREEEE
This light H+ smg is absolutely broken. Lights have become attached to the heavies in their teams and healing them from zero to hero in a matter on milliseconds. At least make it so that its a gradual regen and not an instant save from certain elimination. Pretty please Embark, nerf light (in more ways than just this).
NERF CL40
Fix show tokens and provide information on how to earn them. I lost a TDM and received 5 tokens, but I won a quick cash game and got 0 tokens?
Or Squad conquest
Suggestion: Add stilleto nails
Servers are very very bad right now. Is that just me? I've noticed increased running in place, frozen, jitter, latency, serverperformance icons non stop. Anyone else having this or solves?
Dear Embark, I just want to thank you so much for season 7! For me itâs the best of all considering all additions and balance fixes . Only thing I would consider changing is that Ultimate BP should be around 20⏠, think 30⏠is a bit to much and I fear CallOfDuty like prices in the future đ˘. Also the bonus page of BP S7 is really not motivating considering all the amazing stuff that comes before !
Wish you all the best looking excited for the future â¤ď¸âď¸â¤ď¸
the servers are broken constant freezing, i've had 1 game today where i didn't get kicked at the beginning
Server hitreg is bad. Ping is high. It's killing the game.
Btw. Winch Claw's stun effect is bullshit, especially after Stun guns rework. You can't counter it at all.
@quick coyote Keep your theory crafting and try it yourself against Diamonds and not Silver. SA12 kills you faster before you can use any spec or gadget.
Im leavin the game. Reason : CL40. Go fuck yourself embark
Skill issue
Medium can demat the floor or place jump pad
Light can dash or grapple away
Heavy can winch them or charge
You dont even need to use an ability, dont try and run backwards, run fowards through them
MAC SUPPORTTTTTTT
your poorly made game crashes every round after the latest update
Wasn't the "Skill Issue" sentiment a Light main thing?
Or is it justifiable when it's a Heavy related item that's core design is complete dogshit?
Skill issue đ¤Ą
Nerf thermal bore
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nerf cl 40 plz
This is the only shooter I have ever played where it's like I'm up to a second behind my enemies many games in my native server, manifesting itself like lights having medium HP and mediums having heavy HP, and me dying around corners up to a second after I turned it.
Maybe spend money fixing the connection in the game. It's probably the best investment you can make.
heal meta so fucking dumb why would you think this is a good idea instead of fixing cashout...
not nerfing cl40 this week is criminal
new announcer sucks, so annoying. why muting commentators isn't working on him?
When will fortune stadium and Bernal get variants
goo mines
âIncreased rates of negative sentiment from players on the receiving end of the Sledgehammer, who feel they can never compete against it at close range.â
Guess what? You literally cannot compete against guns at long range with hammer and sword either. Are you nerfing guns? No? Then why the hell should melee weapons NOT strong at close range? Thatâs literally their one job. Youâre trying to deny the basic logic of melee design.
âWhile the size of these damage changes initially looks quite large, they are very targeted. For the most part, they donât change the number of âhits to killâ in most cases, with only one or two match-ups being affected.â
Only one or two match-ups? You do realize there are only THREE classes in this game, right? And Every match-up is affected. hammer and sword are now so weak against ALL of them. Do you even play your game?
âThey do, however, reduce the number of possible attack combinations that can be combined with quick melee attacks to get kills in fewer hits, for example a primary attack plus a quick melee versus a Light.â
Do you know why players relied on quick melee combos? Because that was the most usable way to secure kills with melee weapons.The others were barely meaningful, so they were not used. but You nerf that without adding anything else, just raw damage reduction, and expect the weapon to function? Are you seriously out of your minds? Melee weapons need to kill quickly once they finally close the gap. If they donât, useless.
Even before the nerfs, approaching with sword or hammer didnât guarantee a win. So what the hell are you balancing here? Are we even playing the same game?
âAs always, Weâll monitor the impact of these changes once live and adjust if necessary.â
Right, as always, you say youâre âmonitoringâ the underperforming weapons like youâve done so far by ignoring them.
You guys are so lazy. Itâs a live-service game, but you canât even deliver frequent patches, let alone proper ones.
not sure what happened but was just in a world tour game, first round was playing as a light, but second round the game somehow ended up swapping me to a medium, also lost all the respawn credits for some reason, very strange bug
Please revert sword
Well said. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of how the game functions within the balancing team, and an extremely bad case of tunnel vison around a lot of the damage nerfs. Rough times man, this and the increased aggression of the monetization this season does not bode well for long term survival.
There should be no matchmaking suspension for leaving world tour first round. I shouldnât be expected to carry these cretins.
Why didn't you teach them how to play?
Bro the cl-40 is a bit overtuned and just a little overpowered compared to the other weapons but it isnât that bad, the game is in my opinion the best balance wise right now with the sword being the weakest weapon, it was frustrating to fight against because console players have low sensitivity and canât turn fast enough to fight the light.
Just enjoy the game and the new season
EMBARK FIX YOUR SERVERS FREEZES AND
f3nt pose as an emote pls
Hello everybody! I want to ask you for advice. Yesterday I got my account blocked for bad behavior. They were supposed to be unblocked at 15:59 today, it's already 18:36, and the account is still blocked.
Buff the heavy, this update has been unfair to them completely ruining the Sledge Hammer and destroying any real melee weapons for them to use.
Nerf the lights, they literally get everything they ever want in this game to the point it's unfun to deal with them in ranked cause they always run the same kits. Invisible double barrell which shoots and kills me and my team in like 2 shots.
Medium has no real purpose anymore because all the other classes now have heals.
Buff the healing beam and restore it back to it's former glory, embark.
The healing ball should stop working or break after a certain amount of healing
3 heavies in world tour with 3 medicine balls lockbolt rpg + minigun and flamethrower is the meta rn... they absolutely melt wdym???
The Recruit & Rise system needs massive tweaks - as it is, it's bound to turn into a smurf-fest with zero actual retention. New player onboarding is not a great experience, and locking the very few super-new players (20 games is nothing, really) to a massive population of 'recruiters' creates an insane imbalance. The Recruiter requirements are high as hell for a game that already struggles to attract new players & has high hardware requirements. Making the 'recruiter-prospect' link last longer, enabling more recruiters per prospect or even increasing the number of games a potential Prospect can play while retaining that status could help. But fundamentally, the game still needs improvements when it comes to attracting and retianing new players at all - because right now, all this system does is expose the existing flaws, not fix them.
GIMPLRE GRIMPLE?!? MMORE LIKE A BINGBAM PLOOPY
fix servers rn ong
If a heavy has a healing item equipped they should be disallowed to use shields or put a delay after putting down the shield/healing item so they canât just dig themselves a hole. Itâs a team based game why does heavy get everyoneâs kit
middle east servers pleassseseeeđ
Right now the servers are soooo bad. it feels like im having 500ms. My region is set correctly. My teamates experiences freezes that are up to 10sec long
Glad I wasn't the only one who experienced a huge freeze moment in the game
the game is full of hackers
Let me buy legacy BP tokens, please Embark let me throw more money at you in exchange for more drip.
Would be nice to get replays of the games đ For improve and fix self mistakes
Buff MGL32 from 83 -> 90. Thanks guys!
EMBARK WE NEED THIS
Not sure what the solution is, but for a dedicated player, the Show Tokens and VRS are both useless currencies. I have both buckets maxed and nothing to spend them on. I feel like there must be a better way. But then again, I'm not a game developer.
please nerf lockbolt...
is it only me or is game frezing and lagging alot ?
Buff the dog water weapons already! MGL and dual blades are starving for usage anywhere
Dear EMBARK TEAM
Dear EMBARK TEAM I have one thing to say about your patchotes we real the last patchotes are right against Mele Weapons properly shit I see no one wants the weapons that the weapons are generated as Z. Dagger or Hammer and Sword (except Appoh) But they do it anyway they only lose your players because that annoys. That's why I ask you to BUFF the weapons again especially hammer and sword in the next UPDATE thank you
There is something wrong with charge and slam during combat, it slows down as fugg for no reason like i'm turtle-speed charge-slamming
I would like to see the kill ratios by weapon published for each season, preferably broken down by game mode.
Please, please, please. If one of my teammates quits in ranked, let me quit without penalty. Just loaded straight in with a 2 man team.
not just you im lagging all over was just killed by a heavy with his back to me
I had a team where we all used CL40 and it was probably the easiest win I've ever had in WT. Please never nerf this weapon
bro ranked is so cooked this season PLEASE EMBARK FIX RANKED SYSTEM it should be on how well you play in a watch that determains your rank gain/loss
buff dual blades please embark hear my cries please make the 3rd attack deal 90 damage maybe
Increase cl40 self dmg please its impossible to punish cl40 users by going up close to them cuz they take very little to no self dmg
the game feels massively delayed to every action that you do (shooting the floating boxes, hits reg, melee, server tickrate still not feeling as good as it should be)
Ok so I know people are gonna hate me for this but i feel the sword doesn't need it's damage bumped up I think we just need more mobility. The more movement options I have while playing sword the better I am. It might not be the same for everyone though so I can get why some people will disagree. There's a reason though everyone uses dash with sword. Now hear me out. You make the timing on the lunge jump more generous (I'm not talking about the lunge dash) just enough to where you can do it consistently with enough practice. Because as it stands it's really inconsistent with me. But maybe it isn't for others. Idk.
Game has lost its fun factor
add hud safezone to keep hud in 16:9 area on monitors with greater aspect ratios PLS + THX â¤ď¸
fix the goddamn servers game is actually unplayable. cant even go in the range without lagging out half the time
How about a map with a train on that can be derailed via the destruction, that sounds spicy
Embark, for the love of god stop taking pages out of failed stages of other shooter games like STOP NERFING EVERYTHING. Especially STOP NERFING MELEE. Why do you think itâs a good idea to punish melee users for enemy contestants getting within melee??? Ohhhh and not to mention the servers, itâs so fucking unplayable at the moment. Iâm so so SOOO disappointed in you embark. From failing us with Arc Raiders and releasing the most unpolished and unfun season to date. Season 3 kicks this season out the water. YOURE BETTER THAN THIS. I know it, you know it, we all know it.
- Revert melee nerfs
- Fix servers
- Stop catering to lights so god damn heavily
Such a disappointment of a season, the only thing it has going for it is that it looks pretty
The rose tinted glasses I view this game through is gone, I genuinely feel lethargic after playing one game
data reshaper needs more love; heres a few suggestions for buffs that id love to see for it
add very short cd after using so you dont accidentally use all charges at once and louder sfx when successfully reshaped
more range
third charge
dynamic cd depending on what you have reshaped (much higher cd for guardian turret or a lot of objects (like three mines), much lower cd when reshaping prox sensor, antigrav cube, or aps turret)
reshape thrown nades
reshape each individual goo blob
reshape ally barricades
also are the servers shitting itself or is it just me? im in asia servers which are usually good but today ive been getting really bad ping spikes which hasnt happened before, even at the start of the season.
Bring back the old cashout music!
FLAMETHROWER REWORK SUGGESTION
Flamethrower has been vastly underperforming for seasons, and considering the weapon is almost identical to the weapon it was back in OB, its about time for it to recieve some major changes.
- Increase its range back to 10 meters: Same range as open beta, its pretty much the only thing it hasnt gotten back.
- Increase overall DPS by 10: This will still leave it doing much less damage than most weapons, but at least it will be killing a medium faster than 3 seconds.
- Rework the "ADS" into an Alternate fire:
- Alt Fire launches a fireball projectile that detonates on impact. Does 70 on a direct hit, trickles off to 30 damage at minimum range. AoE of 3 meters. Costs 5 Ammo to fire, RoF of about 90 RPM. Projectile is about as heavy as current Anti Grav Cube (no "sniping" people with fireballs)
This would give Flamer a bit more utility and viability at range, without completely invalidating its primary fire.
SPEAR REWORK SUGGESTION
Spear as it stands just isnt working. The spin is a fun idea but its too high commitment, and far too easily punished or whiffed. Its a fun idea but it needs to go.
- Alt fire is replaced by a spear throw:
-upon alt fire, Heavy "charges" a spear throw (similar to how TK alt fire works) allowing them to throw a 100 damage spear projectile, with the same weight and speed of a CL40 grenade.
This gives spear some utility no other melee can claim, allowing heavy to follow up kills that would otherwise get away from him. Though the DPS would obviously be rather low to punish spamming.
KS-23 REWORK SUGGESTION
The KS23 has been in a sore spot since its addition, what little times its stood in the spotlight very swiftly nerfed out of existence, and in the state its in, its been very cruelly power crept out in lieu of other, more reliable close range options like the KS23 and the minigun. More than anything its main gimmick of being an accuracy weapon that isnt perfectly accurate has lead to it having significant issues, and i think more than anything, that needs to go.
- Primary fire has been changed from a single projectile to a ten pellet spread. Triangular "ten pin bowling" arrangement.
- Each pellet does 10 damage each, and 100 structural each. (maybe 11-12 each but i know we want to avoid QM "kill combos, though my opinion on that is we should just let lights die fast)
- Reload now uses the "double shell" animation regardless of if the weapon has been emptied or not: speeds up general reload time when weapon isnt emptied
This change would give the weapon more reliable consistency in combat without sacrificing its main gimmick of destruction.
make revolver reload way quicker fr, like snap snap it should be back up fr
i would even add to that - Being able to change the color of the sight / scope reticles** for all guns** as an customizable option. This is such a missed opportunity for and being quite uncommon in most modern day shooters. kind of quality of life improvement overall for player himself
BUFF SWORD BACK TO 140!!!!
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#SAVEMELE!!!**
You are nerfing CL40 hard this week right?? Shit's completely out of hand
Either make the projectiles slower or tighten the damage, killing Lights with two shots should only be possible if both hit perfectly
^THIS^
fix your anticheat. 2 games in a row against a cheater and his carry.
What is going on with the servers? Iâve been unable to make it through a match for about 5 days now. Constant freezing, stuttering, and complete connection losses practically every match.
Is there any shot or chance in the near future we can see the new map added to Power Shift? Mainly being its the main game mode i play, but it seems theres a rather large player base that sticks to this game mode as well. There are constant 4-5 stacks of players that seem to grind the mode and unfortunately it just feels a little bit left out of recent updates.
Its insane that you get punished for wiping your enemy at the vault because they'll literally spawn between you and the cashout
Finals latest update is crashing pc now
I donât want to see another nerf until we get at least three solid buffs (preferably to sledge, sword, and dagger). Too many nerfs recentlyâitâs spoiling a lot of the variety that makes this game fun.
Other than that, absolutely loving S7 so far, devs. Nozomi is officially my new favorite map, and the additions to the practice range were a stroke of genius. The new gadgets are great ideas, though the infuser might need toned down a little and the breach drill definitely needs some kind of buff
can we please update the "Recently played with" menu to put the teammates you played with at the start of the list? it's been really annoying trying to remember the names and sifting through the list to find them
been happening to me too, it's the only barrel that does this and it's really annoying
Can we please add a working anti cheat into the game? That would be nice
Please fix or upgrade the servers, game has been lagging out for days and is the worst itâs ever felt, without good servers we donât have much of a game at all so what are we doing here? And quit it with the nerfs to melee, âwe want play style variation and for all play styles to be viableâ đŤ đľ
I beg you. Do something with the servers finally. Its unbearable
I understand of opening WT to all the maps but when you play 10 games of world tour for 2 weeks and still have maps that dont even get into que whats the point. (i have a note book that tracks the maps that we play and theres days that we dont even play maps but get the new map 5 times out of the 10 games like come on
I hate this goddamn anti cheat loading screen, why it so loooonggg
Nerf CL-40 lol.
Bro didnât read the patch notes đ read buddy, cerb was nerfed
Best feedback i have.
Fix the UE crashes so people can actually play? and maybe have support tickets actually idk...help?
Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch
Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130
KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120
Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and increase the movement speed when blocking
R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 Ă 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130 or just increase the fire rate to 160 RPM
Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of all melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge and it can also parry the primary attacks and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit
AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose
ARN-220: increase the fire rate to 750 rpm, decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s
Smoke Grenade: decrease the ammo from 3 to 2, and decrease the cooldown from 50s to 20s
please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
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create a keybind or button the removes the hud
This. Fix this. For the love of God, IM TIRED OF CARRYING! Solo queue is abysmal!
I feel your pain and anger⌠this game will fall off due to shxt like this
Kinda hard to tell if you carried when all you show is your name
Didnt embark say they fixed the server issues? theyre still screwed what the hell is going on with season 7 straight up trash
â ď¸ Day 9 of Season 7. Server stability still a major issue.
Game is unplayable for 9 days in a row. Insane.â ď¸
Ok Embark, I'm cooking...Imagine a sticky grenade that has a dodgeball skin that you can throw and it sticks to players... could be wild
The headwear from the ultimate battlepass skin "Final Hacktivist" (purple visor with cable dreads @ lv40) says it changes player voice, but I can still hear the normal one. Can only others hear it, do I have to change it somewhere or is it bugged?
make a cashbox minifridge and my life is yours
remove sniper from powershift, this is not fun anymore. playing hunt the sniper.. every.. match..
Got an idea, sponsor logos next to our names in game to see what sponsor players have on the scoreboard and on the nameplate and not just the player card?
servers are so bad rn i can see myself dying after i'm dead
game freeze for like 5 seconds multiple times per match no matter the map please fix ty
thats why i dont play that game mode :p
Every time I read this channel I lose brain cells. Devs got it rough ngl
NERF CL40
Real
can we make it so jump pads automatically activate when they're placed instead of having to get off of it and on again
The vault should just break the glass when you're carrying it đ
Nerf cl40
all skins for gadgets, weapons, etc. should get rid of the charm handle thing when no charm is equipped. It feels out of place when nothing is on it
The Medium CL40 is mad annoying, here is how to fix it:
Instead of nerfing it's damage or radius, turn it into a stick grenade with a delayed fuze. Much like the MGL32 with it's delayed bounce grenade, this ensures it's ability to damage maps is retained, while also increasing the skill gap needed to use it aggressively AND giving it a unique playstyle. Right now, it's too strong to be used as is, and there are little to no drawbacks to using it. Secondly, it order to level the playing field, add a the M320 to Light class. With a similar damage profile to the Medium CL40 (while also being an impact nade) it can only be shot once before reloading- ensuring that it has a drawback for it's damage profile and ease of use.
I cant even out-dps a mf flamethrower anymore because of these ridiculous bs heal pocket metas in tandem with this absolutely fkn outrageous sledge nerf yall are ruining this mf game all because of some petty crybaby ruby lights
I feel your pain..
Small thing but itâd be cool to split the face cosmetic section between most face things and then eye-wear as a separate section. Would be cool to have like a headband or bandana mask while wearing the cyclops visor or other glasses
I love tihis game and me and my 2 top 500 mates spended several thopusend Euros on the game but we will quit it. This dev Team is the worst it ever was. We play either against hackers, boosters or teamers and thiss game just cant fix it. Worst Teamers are Carnifax and Balise but in general most of the top 500 players. Since this game dosent seem to fix this issue we would like to announce now that 200 Former top 500 Players will quit and with that an average of 50 000 Euros a Season will Leave the game as well.
This game has a small community and lives from Players like us but we have to grind 1000 of hours to reach top 500 just cause we dont use boosters hackewrs or Teaming mechanic. Since this dev Team is so bad and will never read the message we will continue to find more Players to quit the game with us (already 200).
Thanks dev Team for beeing so incredably bad at ur job of making this game fair
I'm no longer gonna say "Revert sword", I've given up hope. My baby as I knew it is gone forever.
I will ask for the secondary damage to at least get bumped up to 124. The Bow, Knives, Sniper, and Dagger can all one-shot me but I'm the bad guy if I hit a Stab-elbow? The two shot combo against the light was not the problem, pre-nerf it had inferior TTK to basically every other Light pick. The ability to two-shot Mediums with two 140 lunges though? That was a bit too easy I'll admit, alongside stab-stab-slash on the Heavy.
The sword simply can no longer fairly compete in 1v1's with basically anybody. If you have a hitscan weapon, you're free to move your cursor/crosshair a theoretically unlimited speed and click on my head. The sword has a STRICT maximum effective speed. Not only do you have to physically travel to your target, you have to wait for the hitbox to actually become active after pressing primary or secondary. Look up "fastest FPS flicks" on youtube and tell me to my face that Sword having inferior TTK to every other light weapon is justified. Tell me how it's fair I have to compete with that. I think that "initial" ease of use should be a non-factor in balancing weapons, you should be looking at the maximum potential. It may be a bit of a problem how well sword can sometimes to in bronze and silver lobbies but we in the biz call that a "skill issue".
remove kyoto, I want this map wiped and removed from existence. wipe the servers and all the backups, make sure you leave no traces.
Goat
How do they expect feed back when they don't fix anything they keep added things that make the game unfair like duel katana blocking it need to be removed or nerfed.
All wepones need a over hall gave shot guns different ammo types instead of one type so far the game accommodates to try hards and cheaters
Sticky grenade would go hard
so real
When did quick cash become so sweaty? Seems like every second game thereâs a triple stacked medium cl-40 healing beam team đ¤Ł
Impossible to counter as a light main but I do my best
why does the game take 3 minutes to launch this season?
The Spy Watch
A weapon idea I had for light. It's a James bond style gun watch that takes the skin of whatever watch you have equiped, defaults to the guns selected skin if no watch is on that outfit. It shoots single bullet at a slow semi-auto rate dealing 70 dmg per hit, probably a .5 second cool down (I want it to shoot slower than other semi-auto rifles/pistols) between shots. So it 3 shots lights, 4 shots mediums, and perfect 5 shots heavies. Probably should have around 10 bullets a clip. This weapon allows you to carry an extra gadget that you throw with your alt fire. You assign the extra gadget to the weapon. So if it's a grenade you throw the grenade, but if it's like the Taser of infuser, it shoots the projectiles from the watch itself. Can't double up on gadgets tho, having 2 infusers or 2 tasers would be busted, tho the legendary quad smoke would be goated. I just think this is a dope as weapon idea and would add a very creative play style. Personally I would run it with the infuser so I could quick swap between healing and DMG.
bring back different dailies and using your VR's to reroll them. was a lot more fun having the variety. and VR's serve no purpose once you have everything
also, this is a rly rly small thing. but a unique cursor on pc would be cool đ
battlebox bots need to be set somewhere inbetween the old dificulty and this one. gd global elites ruining my warmups and DELETE KYOTO. everyone hates kyoto. in fact, if embark doesn't independently devolop the "men in black" mind wiper stick so that i never have to know the map existed, im gonna have what those kiddos refer to as a generational crashout.
Lightsaber skin for dual blade, sword and spear (give spear the twin saber skin like the one Darth Maul used)
Add Japanese voices đ
if only quick cash was, as the name implies, quick. you know; like fast respawns?
can heavy get a specialisation where heavy does something like a kick or a raging uppercut that does 80 damage and launches enemies back.
It'd be interesting to have this to launch people off the map and I think it'd be fitting.
Would be nice if the visual recoil on the LH1 was lessened to the point of the famas
Hmmm, maybe increase dash cooldown to sword users but buff again the secondary attack?
the SH1900 is just the undeserved kill 1900 rn, lowkey just add a quick melee to the requirements for light/medium instakills & it would be way more healthy
Honestly just re-up the CL40 self damage and it'd be a lot healthier
I love this game but dagger is frustrating and needs buffs
Thanks again to the people who helped me record this
Edited by me
#thefinals #gaming
Makes songs that are more like 0:44 to 0:56 in the song Spectre. Sounded like the Ultrakill soundtrack.
Don't nerf the c tier gun. Buff other med weapons then you won't see cl40 anymore. It's getting used more because other med options got gutted
can the revive sickness on the defibrillator be changed to only effect the defibrillator?
i love this game soo much and i played it for more than 600 hours i guess but nowdays i face a big problem that between every 10 matches i meet 9 matches players play with CL 40 only so how could it be a shooter game like that and if anyone saw 3 medium players with CL 40 no one can face them i wish it get some nerf soon!
same for me playing with people with lvl 1
Last season they added quick cash awards/badges. Probably all the top players getting that knocked out of the way while the server lag issues get worked on.
How its that i cant change scopes inside the practice mode? how this isnt in the game yet wtf?
fix chat on playstation
Give this charm its seasonal update pretty please
emote in lobby when
Tired of not having input based matchmaking btw. No desire to play this game at all when Iâm just trying to have fair games with my friends on the other console. Fix this asap.
If there were a way to stop grenade launcher explosions from pushing objects through walls that would be appreciated. Had two situations where this felt like bs to me.
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While rezzing a teammate, their statue got blown away from me because a launcher shot landing on the other side of the wall. Pretty sure it was intentional.
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While stealing a cashout, the enemy medium shot the ceiling from a floor below making the cashout âskipâ across the floor and fall down a hole out of my range. I lost the cashout despite the enemy having bad positioning and not even being able to get to me.
NERF CL40!
Its beyond out of hand... I been pleading for this and looks like other people has to.. its really out of hand. I said at worse needs to be taken out of ranked... last night played a team in ranked 3 mediums 3 cl40 3 turrets and 3 trophy 3 defibs.. Ive never been so mad in a game of the finals than last night lmao
ever since this new patch me and all my friends have been lagging and freezing up
sometimes it gets so bad i feel like im playing an an rts game where each frame i get every 2 seconds is like a turn pls fix
Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch
Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130
KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120
Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and increase the movement speed when blocking
R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 Ă 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130 or just increase the fire rate to 160 RPM
Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of all melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge and it can also parry the primary attacks and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit
AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose
ARN-220: increase the fire rate to 750 rpm, decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s
Smoke Grenade: decrease the ammo from 3 to 2, and decrease the cooldown from 50s to 20s
please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
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Say please BBJ.
There are riot shield mains in Very High elo lobbies, the ARN 220 is the best weapon on light, Smoke grenade is on you, the R.357 Is balanced wether you like it or not. Also see Dual blades in high elo. Spear was not made to play with, these are all skill issues, CL-40 needs old self damage back tho
Servers are still awfull
I convinced my friends to try the game so that I could get recruiter rewards. We tried Quickcash and WT. They found it annoying with all the Cl40 boom-bam. Maybe I got used to it, but it's mostly Cl40 in every match this season. I don't have any complaints with it in WT or ranked, as I'm at level 86. But now, playing with my friends on comms, I realized it's really hard for newcomers to like this game, especially with the grenade launchers and healing meta. If two on a team are spamming Cl40, newbies don't even understand what's going on in the game. After playing for two hours, they politely said they couldn't continue. I felt really bad. Thought to share this here. If you're new to this game and not good at movement, you can't escape cl40, you'll get killed instantly.
Can we PLEASE do something about the CL40. This is by far the most annoying shit in this game and I see at least 1 person using it every round. This thing is annoying but it wouldnt be nearly as bad if I didnt see it every time i load into a game. Bring back the self damage and it would be infinitly better
That's never gonna works. What actually need for CL-40 is direct hit damage bonus.
CL40 needs to be nerfed hard
I think that cl40 should permanently be 2200 vrs
Can we please optionally tie weapon / gadget skins to outfits? đ
Since the finals has crossplatform why can't it have a native mac port đđđđđ
Cl40 doesn't need a nerf, other guns need a buff, you have been nerfed every medium weapon to the ground since S1 and the only reason Cl40 is overused is because it is the only fun weapon left, similar reason why every heavy is picking flamethrower now
season by season this game becomes more and more team dependant
you dont got a team? ur fked! so a solo player is told to squad up or quit. which of the two is the easier option, especially when u consider the abundance of fps games out there? now you see why the player count is so low
Can you guys buff SA more? It's useless
If the CL-40 gets nerfed I think that's going to be the final nail in the coffin for me. It shows developers will continue to cave to whiny popular opinion, most of which comes from players who dont fully understand or choose not to play with and around the mechanics of the game. Same thing happend with these insane melee nerfs, shotgun nerfs, etc. They'd rather cater to the whiny COD kids and kill diversity of playstyles. All that will be left by the end of this season will be assault rifles, smgs and the M60/Louis Gun. Everything else will be funny meme/throw weapons.
save melee
@blazing rover dual blades are not that hard to counter just keep something in reserves for when u come across it depending on ur class like flamethrower, cl40, sword ect. And i keep seeing people complain about cl40 but its literally the only weapon medium has left to 1v1 lights without having to sweat ur ass off to do it, cl40 is not thst powerful people u just dont know how to play around it...its a support type weapon for defending cashouts and punishing lights trying to flank it does what its supposed to do so why does it deserve a nerf for doing its job?
Spin Cycle headphones are clipping through sweatshirts and other tops (specifically the K.O. KAWAII HOODIE)
HAAAANK, DONâT ABBREVIATE THE WEAPONS NAME, HAAAAAANK
thoughts on ww3 being started embark?
How is this fair?
dual blades in high elo? never seen that before
Powershift is completely unplayable thanks to this Heavy/Medium APS/Healing emitter meta.
Shak 50 is kind of a sleeper pick. Way more fun than the SA12
In quickplay. Allow us to choose which map we want to play on. Theres like 10+ maps already in the game and its annoying that you cant play on a specific map you want. But never get it because it has a low chance of becoming that map
Day 26 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)
It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes
It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex
Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it
(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)
Buff my aim
hud safezone would benefit ultrawide users, CRT users and users with accessibility issues. i emplore you to add a hud safezone option to this game PLS embark add hud safe zone to the game
Plz add a trench coats
Nerf cl40
thats not a dagger problem thats an every weapon problem. dont use that as an excuse to buff a skill expression weapon
Revert the sledge hammer change. This is absurd. If a light gets that close (even within winch range) to a sledge heavy, that is a skill issue on the part of the light. Having to use 3 heavy swings or 2 heavy swings and a QM increases the TTK astronomically. Have we even seen another weapon get nerfed into the ground as hard as the hammer before? 200 to 154 is insane. As someone who is ass at aiming guns, you've basically made my favorite most competitive build a moot point. :\
buff DAGGER, buff SLEDGEHAMMER, *buff * **SWORD!!! **
SAVE MELE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
buff melee
you missed a lot of the bullets while the shak didn't while also peaking a bad anglei wouldn't have done that tbh bc you had to have known the teammates were there, kinda just have to expect it vro, don't hate the game hate the player, we all start somewhere
Feel I shouldnât have to say this but nerf the weapons everyone asks you to actually nerf embark stop just listening to only ranked players if you wanna actually have this games lifespan go on you canât just keep overlooking it, there are all these amazing weapons for every class and yâall just keep nerfing off meta meanwhile overpowered weapons continue to ruin even âcasualâ modes
It would be great if the number of club roles were increased.
One manager and one scout isn't enough.
NERF CL40 into the ground!
Crazy thought but what about a Quick Tour? Itâs world tour only with 5v5 with only 2 rounds. (4 teams)
idea! u guys should somehow implement the m79 thumper into one of the classes. its a single shot grenade launcher with the same loading tech as the sh1900 on the light with a small lever that flicks sideways cutting the gun in half so you can load it from behind. now idk how this would compete against different guns but maybe it could be something like the rpg for heavys but for lights or something with more destructive capabilities. like how we have breach charges and c4s. c4s obviously being more effective have less charges what if the thumper had more charges but less damage and destructive capabilities. considering the light is the only class without a grenade launcher i feel this could be a fun addistion especially for more casual players looking for a laugh
so i lag on asia servers, and have ran 3 world tour games and have had to report people for cheating because what they're doing in the game makes no sense. now i have to play on NA and lag/game freeze even more just to get away from chinese hackers. SICK
pls consider buffing melee weapons, a lot of them are catching pretty harsh nerfs that hurt almost all their viability
heavy heal ball doesnt place and goes on cooldown (greyed out)
can we fking remove low gravity
BRING BACK HAVING SET MAPS IN WT đŁď¸
Can we please get better stats and an app on mobile
What on earth would we need a mobile app for
Remote detonation addition for drill + easier placement
Please revert sword
allowing a 10K elo difference is crazy, fix ur game pls
what's with all the toxic behavior recently in every game mode? shits getting old and I'd rather not waste my free time playing with people who loose their mind after you kill them once then spend the entire match trying to hunt you and your team down.
ruins it for the team who has to deal with these people on both enemies and allies alike
nerf the cl40 it's unbearable it gets abused the hell out off and makes playing light dog shit since all their weapons do almost nothing dps wise
light has the fastest TTK weapons in game, followed by medium, then heavy
I just accidently gifted someone a season 2 battlepass because it had no are you sure screen in a predatory act to syphon peoples money as easily as possible. Can I get a refund? Bro doesn't even play the game
âIncreased rates of negative sentiment from players on the receiving end of the Sledgehammer, who feel they can never compete against it at close range.â
Guess what? You literally cannot compete against guns at long range with hammer and sword either. Are you nerfing guns? No? Then why the hell should melee weapons NOT strong at close range? Thatâs literally their one job. Youâre trying to deny the basic logic of melee design.
âWhile the size of these damage changes initially looks quite large, they are very targeted. For the most part, they donât change the number of âhits to killâ in most cases, with only one or two match-ups being affected.â
Only one or two match-ups? You do realize there are only THREE classes in this game, right? And Every match-up is affected. hammer and sword are now so weak against ALL of them. Do you even play your game?
âThey do, however, reduce the number of possible attack combinations that can be combined with quick melee attacks to get kills in fewer hits, for example a primary attack plus a quick melee versus a Light.â
Do you know why players relied on quick melee combos? Because that was the most usable way to secure kills with melee weapons.The others were barely meaningful, so they were not used. but You nerf that without adding anything else, just raw damage reduction, and expect the weapon to function? Are you seriously out of your minds? Melee weapons need to kill quickly once they finally close the gap. If they donât, useless.
Even before the nerfs, approaching with sword or hammer didnât guarantee a win. So what the hell are you balancing here? Are we even playing the same game?
âAs always, Weâll monitor the impact of these changes once live and adjust if necessary.â
Right, as always, you say youâre âmonitoringâ the underperforming weapons like youâve done so far by ignoring them.
You guys are so lazy. Itâs a live-service game, but you canât even deliver frequent patches, let alone proper ones.
(Trash tier)
cough cough dual blades cough cough
doesn't matter when lights have to play a survival horror and hope nobody looks at them
Increase revolver damage by 2 but decrease headshot multi to 1.9
fix fucking matchmaking. no ssbm just feels shit. stuff like this should just NOT happen: if you put me in a team with a dude with less than 10 wins at least dont put me up against a fucking clan. damnnn
Viiya motorcycle helmet plsss cash in hand
So fucking tired of triple demat triple defib
Cheating is rampant tonight, crazy.
mediums are useless compared to the abilities, weapons, movement, and gadgets that the other classes have. lights can heal and heavies can heal now. defibs which used to be the main reason to play medium has been nerfed so you are nullified as soon as youre resd. not to mention they have never implemented reload on revive so in the off chance someone is medium and i get resd i have no ammo so full reload and no abilities so why res at all.
why do i keep getting bronse teamates that our level 20 on my team
return backstabing on goo grenades
There is most definitely a smoothness issue with movement. Getting hung up on doors, rails, etc. while you're tryng to disengage is rough. Not to mention watching back frame by frames and seeing you're landing shots that aren't landing at all.... I don't understand.
What Melee weapons having an advantage in melee range? Crinnnngeee. Let's nerf melee weapons in a way that they still lose an encounter even when they engage first.
God please no
Add in Practice mode "Puppets health option" so you can choose between infinite health and normal to practice your aim. Maybe add different options as well like randomized movement
Dagger is in dire need of buffs I can play dagger in diamond and ruby lobbys I have the skill
Doesnât mean this weapon is fun and totally not frustrating
Dear embark,
Why would you market our great cyber daddy as coming with passive aggressive judgment but not actually hit him any quips while playing. Iâm disappointed
that clip doesnt prove dagger needs a buff. that clip proves that hit reg in this game needs to be improved. literally proving my point. leave the skill expression weapons as they are. if you make a skillful weapon overpowered its not skillful anymore. dagger is meant to be a showoff weapon
lets all cry about melee weapons in a first person shooter!
REVERT HUMMERďźďźďź
reverse that to about 2 months ago w/ every cod brain complaining about sword because they cant learn counterplay or how to play to the guns basic advantage, range.
An in game team directional audio que for reloading that has a certain range of which it can be heard. Would be sort of nice slash helpful.
Embark please repair riot shields hitbox (revert it to S1 state)
@pseudo latch
Revert hammer nerf, give sword 135 lunge.
buff every melee in the game n give them a stronger quick melee with a different animation for example riot shieldâs quick melee is bashing the shield, sledge and daggerâs quick melee is hitting the enemy with the handle
Sure, but only if dash ability cancels secondary charge attack.. Only then you can have the damage back, otherwise gtfo with that OP gimmick weapon
I accept being back stabbed by dagger, that actually takes some skill not just wiggling your sword around and dashing in like a monkey
lemme just backstab you rq
Sword plus dash is op and when your trying to kill the light itâs nearly impossible to do so because dashing lights donât take damage for whatever reason
Buff melees
buff servers
Can we get a proper functional matchmaking for WT? It's honestly baffling how not balanced the matches are, Its stomp or get stomped every match
Embark pleasae. MGL. One more damage. plz
there is no sbmm for WT (skill issue)
Buff matter heals are hella strong
how i beg oh i beg buff melee but more importantly buff things that are mid
Please nerf CL40, the other grenade launcher is perfectly balanced where you need skill to use it but the CL40 just deals too much damage too quick for a splash radius weapon making majority for decent aim players to get top frag and top damage
Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch
Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130
KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120
Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and increase the movement speed when blocking
R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 Ă 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130 or just increase the fire rate to 160 RPM
Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of all melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge and it can also parry the primary attacks and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit
AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose
ARN-220: increase the fire rate to 750 rpm, decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s
Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s
please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
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Can we have the ability to surrender through voting? Sometimes it's just impossible to win, and to avoid wasting time, we can skip to the next game
đĽFlamethrower should set terrain on fire after using 10 ammo and people rarely hide on trees or in grass so setting that on fire isnât useful,itâs a great defensive utility.
This time the only flamethrower burns the terrain spot u fire for a long time and canât spread to the entire building cause itâs concrete and not grass
Make 93r have more fire rate like reducing the time between bursts,make it shoot 4 bullets at a SLOWER pace,itâs like semi auto
The ks23 needs slightly higher projectile speed as even in mid range u have to lead your shots and it looks like it should hit but doesnât,needs headshot 1.2x to make it truly unique and stand out and destruction breaks entire walls,it just needs to break to pass through
Light breach charge needs to stack damage atleast close to what it was in season1
U should be able to charge a riot shield bash by using the weapon inspection button where u hit ur shield with Baton as a taunt and a telegraph to charge shield bash and use it to get closer or knock(5 damage) them off structures
Give us an arcade mode with all the LTMâs. Cough cough* HEAVY HITTERS! Cough cough* đđđ
Can we have a way to inspect friends or party members bc we work hard on the drip
Nerf teaming in the finals being able to 6v3 is op in the game
Nerf cl40 hate when no skill players just spamming launch grenades and damage a whole team or just buff weapons bro yall keep nerfing everything and forgetting the cl40 thats why the weapon is so goddamn powerful
The game need to be balanced on weapons and melee not only nerfing whatever people say
i agree, its such an easy no risk high reward weapon to use compared to literally everything else in the game
I actually think just increasing the self damage on cl40 will bring it back to being a skill based weapon. Thatâs the only reason why people spam it is because thereâs barely any risk in using it up close. There has to be some kind of draw back to a powerful weapon.
Day 8 of asking embark to bring back bank it
literaly so bad game i had 7 seeding and kicked at 6 position and got 800 minus so good what can you expect ? we kill ruby team season 3 4 5 6 crazy matchmaking
revert sword lunge to 140dmg, revert sledge
You literally said,"weâre going to continue to monitor the Sword and explore some alternative changes that might allow us to nudge the lunge damage back up."And yet, nothing?
Is there really any reason to delay?Sword and sledge were fine. They were never meta even before the nerf. They only showed up occasionally in WT and Ranked. Anyone playing just one match could see that.The fact that only a few use these weapons means the weaker players dropped off and only the skilled remain. Of course, skilled players perform well.
There are many examples of games ruined by listening to Reddit, self-proclaimed pros, and scrim groups who follow their own rules, so why are you trying to follow that losing path? Those people donât help the game at all. If itâs not the weapon they use, they just call it no-skill and whine for nerfs.
Nerf parrotsâ arguments donât make sense. hammer is too strong in melee and needs a nerf? Hammer is supposed to be strong up close. It has to be. If the slowest class comes into melee range, it should be powerful. But now hammerâs left click does 100 dmg? Itâs the same damage as the KS you can use from a distance? Does that make any sense balance-wise?
The sword is the same. The DPS of melee is lower than that of guns you can use at range? Light classes only have 150 HP, and melee weapons must get close to deal any dmg.
Sword and hammer are melee. They require high damage output to compete with other weapons in close range.
To be clear,Iâm not saying any things need a nerf.
I just want underperforming weapons to actually be usable.
Fix the damage.Iâm tired of weapons getting nerfed just because people dislike them(cause skill issue).
You must stop listening to nerf parrots.When something they want nerfed without any real balance reason gets nerfed,they just move on to the next thing to complain about.
You should be able to quit WT if a teammate leaves without penalty
hi
you can, wait for them to fully disconnect
Can we stop getting games like this? Unless theres some divine intervention, winning games as a solo team vs stacks with comms is basically impossible
Bros about to get absolutely rolled
Not OP at all. You must be new here. They take damage, you just gotta be quicker with your aim.
Have you tried Double Barrel + Dash? It's technically better Dagger on steroids / Sword counter lmao + if your on controller you have stronger aim assist Close combat which even shts on light melee. Tldr; Sword is dogsht tier vs any light rn yes even good dagger is a bad matchup.
thatâs what ive been saying
it first happened to ranked now it spread to world tour
solo queue players having a rough time will be the nail in the coffin for this game
True, but honestly the fact it deals 100 damage compared to the 86(?) for repeater and 74 for revy while being much easier to aim really makes it feel strong as well. As radical as this idea sounds, I'd reduce the damage to 70 to take one extra shot to kill every class, but increase the fire rate slightly and add a 6th round to allow for people to pick it up and be able to use it still as a lower skill weapon. Some tweaks to this idea may be needed, but I think it would make the weapon feel a little less oppressive without nuking it completely.
Dear EMBARK TEAM
Dear EMBARK TEAM I have one thing to say about your patchotes we real the last patchotes are right against Mele Weapons properly shit I see no one wants the weapons that the weapons are generated as Z. Dagger or Hammer and Sword (except Appoh) But they do it anyway they only lose your players because that annoys. That's why I ask you to BUFF the weapons again especially hammer and sword in the next UPDATE thank you
BUFF MELEE
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or else.
ranked penalties need a rework, internet cut out during second round, was able to reconnect after internet came back on, our team went on to win first place in the finals and i got slapped with a 10 minute suspension as well as removal of RS. wasted time and sweat.
I know healing nerfs will come this week but there should be an counter to those healings. Something like smokes for fire , fire for gas type of thing. People will say glitch counters it but it gets healing orb most of the time or healing beam if you are lucky. There is not much you can do to counter light healing gun. It heals in range so only real counter is mesh shielding the person who is low.
I really hate the healing meta. It makes the game boring and brakes its core balancing. Makes ranged fights meaningless.
try to move around really quickly yourself. use glitch barrels, it stops them from dashing. try to block their dash by using goo grenades or barricades. and high damage weapons will take them down pretty easily if u have good aim
Idk what yâall did to this game this season but the fluidity of the game feels so bad I have moments where right after shooting i Cant run or i swap to a goo grenade then have to press the button about 4 times just for it to throw
Can you ppl do something about 3rd party already
fix the matchmaking - I'm not even Plat and I'm playing in every lobby against at least two ruby teams
fix the anticheat...fk every 3rd round i got teammates who doesnt have recoil...jumping hs...this is this game right now....
CL-40 100% needs to do the EXACT, equally the same self dmg as RPG.
Love getting beamed by level 3's across the map lol
I wish the disciple of sound skin had a different shooting sound, like some bass or a note from a keyboard. anything other than the regular sound
EMBARK WONT EVEN CARE. ENJOY PLAYING WITH CHEATERS AND THE STUPID MATCHMAKING. 𤣠đ¤Ą
almost each round got at least 1 soft aimlock cheater. 0 recoil somemore
this game crashes a lot more when compared to the last seasons...
For ultrawide screens can we look at getting an option to bring the UI closer to the middle. Be a awesome addition to the game.
or just drageble UI elements would be huge in general
Faster breach charge fuse time, takes forever to detonad
greatly shorten Reshaper recharge time, or give third charge back
Nerf Demat recharge time
Buff Pyro grenade area of effect
Nerf CL40 yesterday
BRING BACK BANK IT!

complete overhaul of the seeding and spawn system
Can we get a bowling ball skin for the healing ball and a classic 50âs bowling team outfit to match
Can I get a rez? Also pre sponsor background is too good to hide after picking your sponsor
Embark straight up has a phobia for wanting their game to be popular. Every single round is ruined by cl40 spam. At least bring back 1.6x self dmg if you are too lazy to do a total weapon rework.
could we please do something about defib griefing?
they made the revived wait even longer, as well as leaving them even worse off at 50% hp and without abilities instead off full with all abilities, while preventing me from getting the single revive i need for my contract
all so that their revive number can go slightly up, at the cost of 2 of us getting annoyed (and potentially the whole team since they feed the enemy team cash with their defib and forget/distraction tactic)
imo defib should be disabled in TDM
but it would be nice to get a slight overhaul to revives in general (at least for the casual modes), since your teammates might not read chat/speak the same language and keep reviving you when you want to change your loadout, or like in this case, just steal the revive leaving everybody else worse off
Seconding this as hard as I possibly can. Disable them in TDM, disallow defibs when another player is already reviving.
how do I report a bug?
Damn that hurts to see, hates when it happens.
I don't think that's a solvable problem tho, let's be honest.
Banning gadgets isn't the right move. It's simply up to the players to not be a-holes. And the problem is, you'll always meet them đ
(on that note, i've noticed an increase of toxic players in the finals, especially when u are soloQueuing in a team of premade duos. Really common to meet deek-heads, more than wholesome players. Kinda sad to see. IMO game is dying unfortunately, let's hope Embark keeps this season alive with LTE!)
Pretty certain they won't do shit as this has been obvious ever since the club feature was added and they could at least be kind to separate groups vs solos, but at this stage I'm 100% sure that there isn't any kind of matchmaking outside of just ranked, perhaps.
nerf the dang trowing knives. no real counter also the first time i tested TK in team deathmatch i got 32 kills so its not a me problem
Iâve played a lot of shooters and the recoil on weapons in this game feels just about spot on for every single one. Controlling recoil is for different guns should feel different and it does. That being said I know when Iâm being shoot at with someone using 3rd party devices like a Strike pack or Cronus and there are way to many bad gamers with bad aim leaning on these crutches in this game. Itâs really a problem that needs looked into. Players need to get good or die trying .
Charge and slam has been so fugged up, it feels like a joke - idk what shadow upgrade you guys have done, amidst fight the charge and slam runs lika a turtle
Embark, please donât tell me yaâll nerfed dagger again. It appears that Iâm not able to sprint while prepping the secondaryâŚ.this greatly stunts movement, not allowing the player to slide on command. Please make dagger competitive.
Because melee has damage it must deal, it was set that way from when it was made, and it stayed quiet without any problems since beta. After many seasons have passed, you say youâre going to nerf it? That just means you messed up the patch.
Do you know why this situation even happened? Because all you ever do is nerf things. Thatâs exactly how you get nonsense like this.
Nerfs are not the only way to balance a game. Buffs are a perfectly valid option too.
Damage nerfs need to stop. Start buffing things instead. Games like Apex Legends and Call of Duty actually pulled out of slumps by shortening TTK, not stretching it out. Nerfs donât fix problems.They just kill the fun.
please, stop with the nonsense about nerfing damage for the sake of Light. That doesnât help only Light. It affects every class and ends up making weapons useless.
If you canât kill a Light, you definitely wonât be killing Medium and Heavy. Any supposed benefit for Light is always outweighed by what Medium and Heavy gain.
Melee weapons need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it only makes sense that melee should win up close. Thatâs the basic logic.
About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so high DPS is justified. Double Barrel is only viable up close, and it needs to 2-tap Heavy. That balance was correct. so reverted.
The same goes for Sword. Itâs the same mistake as with Double Barrel. Sword was built around close-range and Lightâs low health.it required specific damage combinations for each classes.
Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + quick melee + left click,
Heavy to double (lunge + quick melee) or 2 lunges + left click.
That was balanced. Swordâs lunge must deal 140 dmg.
Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/
Stop lying and start keeping your promises.
can the grenade launchers either require more skill or just be nerfed? its pretty much a handicap for those who just want wins and dont wanna put in the effort
Can we just trade Terminal Attack for Bank It? Iâve heard so many people in the comments saying they want it back and that some even left before you took it out. âď¸
Bring back the melee cancel for shotguns. The game was objectively better when you could melee cancel. You completely messed up the balance of shotguns ever since and have been unable to fix it.
I'm seeing less CL40 lately, I think the hype/curiosity has died down with people realizing how jank it is after giving it a go
I will once again say, grenade launchers should be low damage, high destruction, gadgets, and just be removed from the weapon pool completely. Their whole point should be to deal environmental damage.
remove healing light and heavy plz
add sbmm to casual modes
NERF CL40
MACCCCC SU{PPPPORRTTTTT
You guys need to stop seeing as certain weapons being viable in all modes as a bad thing, SLEDGE WAS PERFECT! The constant nerfs to melee is pushing me away from the game more and more, ive been forced to go to combat knife now because its now the only enjoyable melee weapon, but i already know its gonna get nerfed again because people have a huge problem with dash and melee, but heres the funny thing, you guys nerfing it by adding a huge charge up made me switch to dash, because now im so incredibly slow when moving around while charging up i cant even catch up to a walking heavy, man i use to love running just invis and knife, but thats a thing ill never see again because you guys dont know what you are doing with melee weapons, im taking the little bit of time i have left with this game until all melee becomes gutted, please change in how you do this
Please reenable the ability to disable the chat filter. I miss it dearly.
Grenade launchers are fine as they are
Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch
Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130
KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120
Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and increase the movement speed when blocking
R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 Ă 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130 or just increase the fire rate to 160 RPM
Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of all melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge and it can also parry the primary attacks and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit
AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose
ARN-220: increase the fire rate to 750 rpm, decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s
Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s
please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
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hate to say it but im with the nerf cl40 crowd. the cl40 should not out dps any automatic or semi auto medium fire. Mainly due to its ability to hit multiple tagets at once. It should also do 1/3 - 1/2 of you own health bar self damage.
FLAMETHROWER REWORK SUGGESTION
Flamethrower has been vastly underperforming for seasons, and considering the weapon is almost identical to the weapon it was back in OB, its about time for it to recieve some major changes.
- Increase its range back to 10 meters: Same range as open beta, its pretty much the only thing it hasnt gotten back.
- Increase overall DPS by 10: This will still leave it doing much less damage than most weapons, but at least it will be killing a medium faster than 3 seconds.
- Rework the "ADS" into an Alternate fire:
- Alt Fire launches a fireball projectile that detonates on impact. Does 70 on a direct hit, trickles off to 30 damage at minimum range. AoE of 3 meters. Costs 5 Ammo to fire, RoF of about 90 RPM. Projectile is about as heavy as current Anti Grav Cube (no "sniping" people with fireballs)
This would give Flamer a bit more utility and viability at range, without completely invalidating its primary fire.
SPEAR REWORK SUGGESTION
Spear as it stands just isnt working. The spin is a fun idea but its too high commitment, and far too easily punished or whiffed. Its a fun idea but it needs to go.
- Alt fire is replaced by a spear throw:
-upon alt fire, Heavy "charges" a spear throw (similar to how TK alt fire works) allowing them to throw a 100 damage spear projectile, with the same weight and speed of a CL40 grenade.
This gives spear some utility no other melee can claim, allowing heavy to follow up kills that would otherwise get away from him. Though the DPS would obviously be rather low to punish spamming.
KS-23 REWORK SUGGESTION
The KS23 has been in a sore spot since its addition, what little times its stood in the spotlight very swiftly nerfed out of existence, and in the state its in, its been very cruelly power crept out in lieu of other, more reliable close range options like the KS23 and the minigun. More than anything its main gimmick of being an accuracy weapon that isnt perfectly accurate has lead to it having significant issues, and i think more than anything, that needs to go.
- Primary fire has been changed from a single projectile to a ten pellet spread. Triangular "ten pin bowling" arrangement.
- Each pellet does 10 damage each, and 100 structural each. (maybe 11-12 each but i know we want to avoid QM "kill combos, though my opinion on that is we should just let lights die fast)
- Reload now uses the "double shell" animation regardless of if the weapon has been emptied or not: speeds up general reload time when weapon isnt emptied
This change would give the weapon more reliable consistency in combat without sacrificing its main gimmick of destruction.
The dual blade parry is weird against mele attacks : Like sometimes it parries a charge n slam from the side, but not from the front. Same with quick mele. Also, the fact that you can't cancel an attack to parry makes the weapon weirdly clunky (I actually don't like cancel animation, but it would be cool to have some kind of quick parry animation cancelling damage from your attack, but protecting you)
Big dagger main here, love the weapon, don't feel like it needs a big up (maybe a tiny one), just better hit reg.
I also wanted to adress the rocket launcher situation. I actually don't think it's op, or doing to much dmg, just the fact that every fight starts with rockets everywhere. It's just annoying and throwing you out of the finals experience. Feels like this gadget only have been made for this : starting a fight and clearly lacks of versatility
And to sum up quickly my thoughts : It's sad to see the game from S1 - 2 - 3 where ppl would go crazy on every weapons, shotgun, mele, rifles, bow, ending up only using fcar, akm, arn, xp and shak... It's just rifles... and cl40. We should probably get an overall refund of mele weapons, and rethink in range weapons.
Ty, love the game since S1, love you guys and the community
The H+ infuser needs a slight adjustment. During a hectic fight, its quite difficult to heal you allies with, but when stationary and stealing a cashout, oh man, its crazy broken. A simple nerf would be a boring solution.
I think if the gadget is gonna behave as a gun, then we treat it as a gun. You can do this by implementing "headshots".
The current heal stats, should be for headshots, and bodyshots will give lower heal. So even in stationary situations, you have to think about your aim and positioning.
Also, I feel sorry for mediums, I think you should consider buffing their healing beam. A gadget shouldn't be a better option than a specialization, thats crazy
Griefing is too easy, really really need to do something that counters it, as soon as the top team gets the last plug, they just get to choose who gets through
ranked is boring, too many grief and the light class, fix your game embark
The double barrel desperately needs a rework. Having a gun that can 2 tap heavies before they can even react without any skill requirement is just bad game design.
Faster reload, faster fire and SUBSTANTIALLY lower damage would make the gun feel more responsive to use, and less absurd to play against.
Thereâs gotta be a better way to balance lights than giving them an instant kill gun.
dont hate the game. hate the players. its cuz of light mains that everything that is fun and good gets nerfed. maybe if light mains learned how to play a skillfull class. maybe it wouldn't be so bad.
People just hadnt been playing CL40 because the shotgun options were just better pre nerf. The reason the cl40 feels so oppressive now is because of the nerfs & its projectiles are able to pass through teammates. It allows double or triple cl40 teams to stack on each other with out any thought about sight lines like every other gun in game has. Maybe remove the buff it got that allows its projectiles to pass through teammates so that the cl40 users have to consider more in a team fight.
we need more specializations
Did I just see someone say the flamethrower needs to also launch aoe bombs that put on fire???
Just a list of odd things that I found that make the game feel more inconsistent lately.
- weird infinite reloading bug.
- infinite reloading bug also make picking up totems and other throwables not work consistently and sometimes not at all.
- small actions now cancel reload animations such as running through a door.
- jumping/running through windows doesn't break windows sometimes...
- hit registration is still delayed sometimes. Like when hitting players when they are running behind cover.
- ads bugs out sometimes after dying. All i see is the gun in my face lol
Im curious if other players noticed similar issues.
Why would you want to sweat in casual modes? That's what SBMM usually causes. Much better with it gone so you at times get easier opponents and at other times harder opponents.
Leavers are Losers
Put rubys in their own matchmaking...
add effects tab so we can customise.
Buff performance. It got way worse this season on xbox series x
flash lasts way too long
i keep asking this but...anit-cheat when? i mean when an enemy has over 95% headshot accuracy you should just instantly perma ban him especially that he has under lvl 20, what is wrong with you? not even the most basic of the basic anti-cheat? i mean i get it without cheaters you game would have 3-4k players concurrently but it's better then having only hacker kids community
Where are you seeing the stats to further your claim.
buff cl 40 because this idea pisses people off
You should be able to invite people from the club window and not have to be friends with them. Slightly defeats the purpose.
Remove orange roles
Why shouldn't it be on par with other weapons?
Plus it already does half health self damage anyway (1.25 x 100 = 125 = 250 / 2)
The current DPS with all direct hits is definitely still lower than all of the bullet-shooting weapons
Personally I'd rather use the model 1887 but it was nerfed to the point where it feels like it shoots rubber bullets. The CL-40 is pretty much a straight upgrade from that. Similar TTK plus splash for nearby enemies if there are any. If there wasn't this constant nerf campaign going through every weapon and gadget in the game, we wouldn't be here complaining about the CL-40 now and the game wouldn't feel so sluggish to play. Assualt rifles and smgs pretty much out DPS everything else now. Just go play COD if you want to play a game like that.
This probably isnât the place for this, I just didnât know where else to send it. A mythic land mine skin, that turns the mine into a bear trap. It would be a mythic skin because, not only would it be a complete redesign of the mine, but upon âdetonationâ the mine would attach to the leg/foot of the player who activates it directly (unless the mine was shot). The trap would thereafter stay attached to the playerâs body until the player was eliminated.
PLEASE bring back quick text chat after death. It's really frustrating to not have that available, and hinders communication.
Update anti-cheat
it would be good if the demat on fortune stadium roof would actually demat the part it shows it's going to demat, wtf is this
If someone gets kicked for being afk in WT-ranked I should be allowed to leave IMMEDIATELY
low gravity is cancer for light you get stuck in the air and 2 bullets you are gone, its basically movement disability
there needs to be some sort of role queue
WHEN ARE WE GETTING ANY KIND OF SKILL BASED MATCH MAKING. HOLY CRAP! IM SO TIRED OF GETTING LVL 20'S ON MY TEAM WITH LESS THAN A THOUSAND KILLS MAKING ME TRY TO SOLO WIN AGAINST TRIPLE EMERALD AND RUBY STACKS. I CANT KEEP ANY OF MY FRIENDS IN THIS GAME CAUSE THEY ALL GOT MATCHED AGAISNT SUPER STACKS FOR 5 GAMES IN A ROW AND GAVE UP
Heavy gadget that lets you cycle through Oil, Gas, or Glitch cans normally found in the arena. When thrown, it spawns three of the selected can. It gives Heavy a reliable source of glitch, but not as easily as, say, just tossing a Glitch Nade as a Light.
EMBARK, you too, like many other companies that operate in the video game industry, are as bad as your servers have been for a couple of seasons now. I've been playing since season 3 and slowly I notice a degradation of this game from various points of view but especially from the technical one.
P.S. Nerf CL40.
P.P.S. I hope this degradation is not due to your next release "Arc Riders".
Because you know, a certain company that is your direct competitor in the release of a similar game is in free fall for having chosen to move all the resources from its main and flagship game to this game in the design phase.
you added a shit load of healing into the game then cranked those breakpoints down to the wire on every melee weapon effectively killing them. sledge is especially fucked by this with around 4hp of leeway with their overhead+swing combos, one crumb of healing on a medium and they need an entire extra swing to kill
NERF CL40 NERF CL40 NERF CL40 NERF CL40 NERF CL40NERF CL40NERF CL40 NERF CL40 NERF CL40 NERF CL40, ITS 0 FUN TO PLAY AGAINST THE SPAM OF IT, ITS BASICALLY CHEESE AT THIS POINT, AND NO DONT SAY PLAY HIGH GROUND, I CANT EVEN GET TO HIGH GROUND BECAUSE THEY ALREADY ON THE HIGHEST PART OF THE GROUND WITH NO WAY TO BRING IT DOWN COS U GET FOCUSED OR CHARGE N SLAMMED OR SOMETHING
Why does embark cater to Light players with every update? They die fast, thatâs how it should be. They do insane damage why shouldnât they die fast? Heavy and Medium get the shaft every update and then when they find a new way to deal with pesky lights⌠you nerf them again.
If I was a developer and saw some of your comments here I would die inside. Some of you guys have no idea what u are talking about
Me on the other hand, I see the important issues. I call for change.
Embark please add a hud safezone PLEAAAAAAAAASE add a hud safe zone the health bar is so far away and I need to close to the center!
nerf cl40. but don't just nerf it into the shadowreal make it take skill by removing the direct hit area and buff damage without touching splash damage.
CL is fine, if you want meds to use other weapons then stop nerfing them.. cl is not that good anyway... and most complaning are lights with dash and graple lol, just dont stand still nike a noob.
I think it's the opposite actually. Light has had almost every weapon and ability has been nerfed. Every season people would complain about an overpowered gun until it was nerfed, not realizing everyone uses it because it's the only viable gun. First it was DB, then XP, the LH1, then M11, and now back to XP. Not to say nothing should have been done, but I feel like if light weapons are good across the board we wouldn't have to nerf medium and heavy as much. Medium/Heavy have glitch mines, proximity sensors, CL, SA12, Cerb, shak, scar, akm. What light weapon, gadget or ability can compete/counter any of that?
HHH healing meta is ridiculous with tripple bubble and tripple Orb, i've run into it several times now in world tour and it is literally unbeatable with LMH team. Heavy was already strongest class in the game before, but now it's just over
NERF CL40 yesterday!
dude below is clueless and probably a heavy main
HHH is never viable. Too slow and too easy to play around with right gadgets. Glitch nades and gas are your best friend if you had troubles with it
Lack of animation cancel is clunky and annoying. No shoot bug related? Idk. But itâs all annoying.
Please allow the model 1887 to cancel a reload animation and shoot the rounds that were loaded.
NERF CL40
this heal meta is so cringe đđ bring back the finals, i hate this overwatch/rivals shit
Revert dagger nerfs đ
Please fix the issue where invis is GENUINELY invisible on old gen consoles. Iâve seen the difference between new gen and old gen it is such a huge difference. I have over 200 hours playtime and i have never seen invis even once other than the times I get blasted not even a second later.
"Is it fun for top 500 players to smack my face as solo queue silver/bronze?" - sadly it is! ...and thats the reason why these people abusing the shit out of this broken matchmaking. grinding kills and wins with their premate ruby friends (in casual mode lobbys) and teabagging their opponents while laughing their asses off... and this is exaxtly how you lose the playerbase on the mid and lower end.... the matchmaking has to be seperated for randoms and premates.... the one premate team in the lobby will win 95% of all cases... if they are not SUPER bad... its close to unbeatable for randoms to fight against people that are glued together like shit... i find a match in 10 seconds average at the moment... there is room for improvements... waiting 1-3 minutes would be a good tradeoff that makes the match more enjoyable ...btw it is super boring to know exactly which team will win most likely just by pressing tab in the first 3 seconds xDDD ...fix this shit...
I just got third parties by the same team on back to back cashouts. Is this the best you can do, Embark?
Sword. Please.
Nerf heal ball
So I think a lot of people are disappopinted with Breach Drill as it is just a slower dematerializer with a flashbang effect that's mitigated by the fact that the gadget's noise prompts players to look away from the drill and avoid being flashed. My suggestion would be to increases the speed at which the drill deploys and destroys the wall and shave off 1s or 1.5s off.
Buff the dual blades, replace the current combo system we have with flat 63/63 damage slashes
Can we get the new heavy model to not clip with the watches? thanks!
Season 1-2 diamond backgrounds for play cards should be a thing
can mediums get glitch grenades
CL isn't fine actually, when there's 2 meds using it and a heavy using machine gun, it's impossible to get to a viable range in order to attack
The anti cheat is actually way better than you think I get the message that someone has been banned almost everytime I report
there was a paper comparing anticheat effectiveness across the industry somewhat recently that I saw. It wasn't great research honestly, but it did find THE FINALS as being quite competitive in that regard
Dual blades should get some love ngl, one of the worst melees in the game (still hurting from that sledge tweak)
After 900h playtime i just wanna sayâŚi love this gameâ¤ď¸
NERF CL40
BUFF MELEE & non-hitscan weapons!
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OR ELSE
Also, please add slight knockback on explosions. It would nerf CL-40âs close range potential by bringing enemies towards them, and would be very fun.
Nerf CL-40 splash damage, have it reward aiming(Direct hit), instead of just shooting the ground next to 1/2 opponents and getting a free win too often while putting in 0 effort.
And buff melee weapons, bring back THE FINALS.
100 percent agree.. sad to see whats going on.. my whole server I brought over to the finals last season who loved it has now started to ease back into cod.. and it has to do with cl-40 and the server issues. Not a fan of the heavy having a healling option he can just sit beside while still using a gun but not a huge deal.. but the cl 40 and the servers are awful right now
Can we get more of the currency for the legacy passes per match
Buff CL so it does over 9000 damage per shot
buff cl40 đŁď¸ đĽ
Melee weapons being irrelevant defeats what made the game interesting. Shotguns and melee is what made the game unique, so they should be on par with guns but more technical. Teach the playerbase how to play the actual game. This game shouldnât be battlefield remastered
Can we get a different color for the lock bolt ? If you have healing ball or other healers and a lock bolt chain on the same area you should be able to distinguish between the two-4 different gadgets going on at once
please please remove low gratity
BRING BACK SLEDGEHAMMMER
add rocket knockback and make it triple for self
how many messages do you need to send to get voice chat unlocked???
bring bank it back
please add 'effects' customisation tab
evasive dash needs a nerf. Nothing sucks more than being a melee player and lights just deciding "no". What happened to everything being meant to have counterplay? why can the light just leave whenever they please? Evasive dash is just a crutch for lights who haven't learned what "picking your fights" means
Me when the hit and run class hits and runs
Dropping a big long list of balance suggestions because I feel like it
The DMR and Sniper problem
All of the DMR's and the Sniper rifle are balance nightmares and personally I think the game could've done without them but I think they can be balanced (mostly)
CB-01 Repeater
Reduce max range to 40 and min range to 35
Falloff multiplier to 0.60
(this is an attempt to stop the repeater competing and being better than sniper at sniper level ranges)
Pike-556
Reduce RPM to 170
(the pike has shown that dropping damage below 50 makes the weapon near unviable but that keeping it at 50 makes the TTK too short, to remedy this making the gun fire slower should bring its TTK back in line)
SR-84
Increase Hitscan range to 100m
(this change should hopefully allow the sniper to play as a sniper whilst avoiding instances of cross-mapping the other cashout in cashout modes)
Gamemode Balance
Due to the negative effect the DMR's and Sniper have on powershift they should be banned from powershift (similar to how Defib and Healbeam are banned in Terminal Attack), not only are these weapons not fun to play against they are not fun to play with and encourage a playstyle counterintuitive to the team aspect of powershift.
Automatic Madness
The AR's and SMG's of the game have had their ups and downs and struggle to find individual identities at times
AKM
Increase ammo count to 36
Slightly smooth horizontal recoil
Slightly increase hipfire accuracy
(The AKM has been struggling with its identity after a very unnecessary nerf in S4, these changes aim to solidify it as mediums close range AR)
FAMAS
Increase recoil between individual bullet in a burst to be slightly more than 93r
*(The FAMAS has quickly found itself to be the best AR due to its near zero recoil, whilst the small nerfs have chipped away at its grip on the medium meta the FAMAS still remains best in show, these changes hope to keep the weapon viable in terms of TTK whilst increasing its general skill floor, adjustments may be needed if the recoil still feels unnoticeable) *
ARN-220
Increase horizontal recoil
(After a needed but incorrect nerf to XP54 and damage buff to ARN it has found itself to be the new Light meta weapon, whilst not a bad thing the general skill floor of the weapon remains low, the recoil change should make it more difficult to use at range as the current recoil had negligible horizontal recoil)
XP-54
Buff damage to 17
Increase vertical and horizontal recoil
revert RPM to 850
revert max falloff to 30m
(The XP has been a controversial weapon and a light staple since the beta's, its good in the hands of good players but also in the hands of bad players, the recoil and range changes should increase the skill floor and stop the weapon feeling like a long range nightmare in lower skill lobbies)
a âshuffle contestant loadoutsâ option for queuing would be great
Buff CL40, I never win games with it
I liked how dagger was able to backstab other objects like goo. I feel like that should still be in the game, mainly since it was so niche, but still seemed fair.
ok guys does anyone know what trap shooting is?
Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch
Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130
KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120
Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and increase the movement speed when blocking
R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 Ă 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130 or just increase the fire rate to 160 RPM
Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of all melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge and it can also parry the primary attacks and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit
AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose
ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s
Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s
please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
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i aint ask for more just make the server better , been experience delay most of time since season 1 playing till now , i hope fully embark team will improve this it means a lot most for competitive player thanks
Once again I ask to revert the changes done to the spawn system.
The spawn system already sucked and now it's even worse.
It promotes third-parties even more as it spawns you closer to another team already engaging in a fight or even spawn between the middle of the fight.
In this image you can see in the circles where pink is.
During our fight purple appears behind them and they get sandwiched between two teams and killed.
Oh and when coining in you spawn 180 meters away from your teammates, yay!
HHH vs a single glitch nade:
Day 27 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)
It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes
It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex
Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it
(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)
Maybe fix the last cashout griefing before the major?
PLEASE FIX THE SPAWNS !!!! There's no reason we fight a team for a box, win the fight, and then the team spawns close to our destination while we are in route. Not only that teams spawn literally right next to us during the final round which costs us the match. Not to mention, the spawns also place teams next to parties already engaged in fights
genuinely embark, fix your **** censorship
The files are corrupted on embarks end it shows now with the addition of citadel every time I get it it's a fucking crash what a shit excuse for a company
nerf cl 40 already
Buff CL40 just to piss off the bad light players, it would be really funny
The bootup and shutdown times are getting real slow on PC (Steam). It's especially noticable when you need to restart the game and rejoin.
Maybe some kind of Gun Game type mode could be cool? Not sure how it would work exactly though
delete kyoto from the face of the earth. everyone hates kyoto. and turn the box battle bots down a bit. force everyone that plays ranked to wear a shock collar and if they dont use voice comms, shock them.
Ranked soloq progression is completely horrific to play
the new s7 map is the worst map in the game. the spawns are actually atrocious. every round on it flows like absolute garbage. not to mention it runs at 20% less fps than every other map. and the best part is im getting it 70% of my games. ruining the season for me.
Add a map set inside of a Vaiiya computer chip, where you run into the components appearing massive
holy nerf db pls
Buff cl40
please add firing sounds to the disc fcar skin
Because melee has damage it must deal, it was set that way from when it was made, and it stayed quiet without any problems since beta. After many seasons have passed, you say youâre going to nerf it? That just means you messed up the patch.
Do you know why this situation even happened? Because all you ever do is nerf things. Thatâs exactly how you get nonsense like this.
Nerfs are not the only way to balance a game. Buffs are a perfectly valid option too.
Damage nerfs need to stop. Start buffing things instead. Games like Apex Legends and Call of Duty actually pulled out of slumps by shortening TTK, not stretching it out. Nerfs donât fix problems.They just kill the fun.
please, stop with the nonsense about nerfing damage for the sake of Light. That doesnât help only Light. It affects every class and ends up making weapons useless.
If you canât kill a Light, you definitely wonât be killing Medium and Heavy. Any supposed benefit for Light is always outweighed by what Medium and Heavy gain.
Melee weapons need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it only makes sense that melee should win up close. Thatâs the basic logic.
About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so high DPS is justified. Double Barrel is only viable up close, and it needs to 2-tap Heavy. That balance was correct. so reverted.
The same goes for Sword. Itâs the same mistake as with Double Barrel. Sword was built around close-range and Lightâs low health.it required specific damage combinations for each classes.
Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + quick melee + left click,
Heavy to double (lunge + quick melee) or 2 lunges + left click.
That was balanced. Swordâs lunge must deal 140 dmg.
Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/
Stop lying and start keeping your promises.
Evasive dash is annoying to fight
Embark please make the dual blades deadly in close range, once you get on someone they still out DPS you cause I'm swinging wet noodles at them
Can we get an RPG rocket jump? I dont think itll be broken (And Im a light player... .... I want more challenge, and I want to push myself to show more of what Im capable of.)
give the cl40 to light
I can't even play a simple game without getting matched with a bunch of tryhard Emeralds acting like maniacs. It's like everyone in the lobby is completely insane.
An rpg rocket jump would be amazing. They would need to reduce a lot of the self damage and probably nerf it somewhere else to make up for the extra utility but sounds fun. Reducing the damage and/or reload time would make it less useful overall.
Please increase sts gain because its way to low you get 1 per match or none and need like 366 or more matches to complete one battlepass not to mention that it take a while per match and there's a holding capacity of 50 pls at least increase the gain per match by a decent amount or add daily quest that give like 10 each
Are we ever getting Oceania ranked?
Does The Finals have P.S.S.R. support on PS5 Pro?
Please add this for the fcar, I donât use light ever but I love this inspect sm
Add compensation for ranked games where you only have 2 players. Ridiculous that servers are still azzz and you get a missing teammate who never connects and u stuck w 2 people losing full RP
Is there something else in this game as griefing ? Is there skill in this game? thats crazy i got 29 times in raw place 3... ( in ranked) all people leaving this game ... can we get a only Final round ranked? 3v3? i lose literally 20k points that why. search 35 min in peak time play 45 mins for a match and get -100 is crrazy
Please add SBMM or some other change to World Tour matchmaking. Just played against a 3 stack of rubies and a ruby duo in a single round. Not to mention almost every other lobby today being filled with diamonds and a couple rubies. This is unplayable. If I wanted to sweat every game I'd just play ranked.
its a reload not an inspect but yes its fire
Update to UE 5.6, it is noticeably more performant :)
SKILL SKILL BASED MATCHMAKING.
The matchmaking is now also subject to sbmm
gun game game mode when?
You gotta hybrid this. Location based first, skill based second. If you can't communicate with your team in a game like this, or if the game lags so bad it's unplayable, you aren't gonna get anywhere with it.
Buff CL40 and give it to light, also remove heavy
Feels like CL40 is moving back into casual meta. Not sure if I have a bad impression or not, but seems like people are able to spam at their feet with too little self damage. APS helps some but APS isn't as mobile as I need to be against CL40. But it does help when trying to steal against a CL40/
when will you idiots get your head out of your ass and fix the game? Why is medium class basically being stripped from all uses? You guys add these overpowered as fuck healing items but oh no you nerfed mediums healing beam and defibs for being "too overpowered" then you go and add an even more overpowered item on light and a fucking self healing item for the tankiest class in the game that also does the most dpm of the entire game, has the most damage mitigation utility, and you decide the best course of action is to give them a fucking self healing device, cool one embark, my class that i have been playing since the BETAS is practically stripped of all usefulness because you nerfed each and every medium gun into the ground, the fcar, the akm, the model, the pike, you nerfed the everloving shit out of our utility gadgets and other specializations but you let heavy and light run free with some of the most OP shit ive ever seen in any competitive video game, why make medium players suffer??? for what??? why havent you balanced the game yet??? its 7 seasons and there is no light at the end of the tunnel, heavy and light now runs the game EASILY no contest, this isnt balance, it never will be, this is a joke. You dont know how to reward skillful aim on medium class players and then you either nerf into the ground or just add more dumb shit to cancel out other dumb shit, you guys are lost and should have stuck at EA to make battlefield, 2042 doesnt even stoop this low in its gameplay, the finals has no gameplay, your destruction mechanics are so heavily server sided anything other than a few walls breaking breaks the game, your tickrate is still shit, your servers are still shit, your game is still shit, unfuck the game or pull the plug because its downhill from here on in, you want game feedback you can have it, let me reiterate once more, your game is fucking shit and it sucks, you guys made it this way with your bogus changes, unfuck the game or get fucked.
aps is as mobile as ball when you place it on a carryable, plenty enough for me to deal with them
Season 7 and sprint bug is still in the game
ak is so shit
I wasn't sure about mythic tier being added to the game, but the mythic FCAR battlepass skin is just chef's kiss đ absolutely cooked and burnt the kitchen down
daily repy.
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NERF CL40
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NERF HEAL GUN
Day 8 of waiting until Embark is compliant with 2025 EU consumer protection guidelines.
Anyone still having server issues
new spawning system is terrible
buff all melee
nerf winch
keep cl-40 as-is
nerf healing
If everyone can complain about a close quarters hammer being powerful then this man is entitled to complain about something else working as intended
Buff the Famas itâs so weak now and head shots feel less rewarding some how
Honestly, pretty good feedback. I do think a CL-40 self damage increase might be nice? Otherwise good though
Anybody encounter a bug in World Tour where you get to 2nd round and your entire team has 0 coins? Didnât use a single one the whole first round like wtf
Gun game would be sick. Start with heavy weapons, progress to medium, and end off with Light sniper or bow or something
please add normal cashout back to the game
remove defib
Best suggestion yet! Gun game would be so much fun
WHY does Lockbolt stop me from grabbing the cashbox? Such a stupid design. If I am lockbolted, why can't I grab and throw the cashbox!?!?! Just lost a game for a dumb mechanic
Some Medium weapons def need to be buffed. The famas, pike, AK, etc all feel so useless now. Especially now that the Heavy meta plagues every match. Imo they should have nerfed some of the Mediums gadgets rather than their weapons/specializations.
Light on the other hand has been getting nothing but nerfs since season 4. (Although Dash should be nerfed imo. I feel like that would balance out a lot of issues people have with Lights). Instead they just keep nerfing all of the Lights weapons.
But Heavies desperately need to be nerfed. I started noticing a trend since Season 4. Embark started catering to new players when they started to notice new players were leaving instead of buying skins due to the high skill ceiling the game once had. So they started buffing Heavy to make new/unskilled players harder to kill and making easier for them to get kills. Heavies literally can play every role in the game now. Only thing they dont have is mobility (and even that can be mitigated through the goo gun or gravity nade). I mean, how the hell does a mini gun or dual 50 cal pistols have more accurate long range capabilities than any rifle in the game??? Make it make sense Embark. đ¤Śââď¸
make more points if u r facing rubies using meta's, also everyone is light, the worst class, thats why cheaters only uses it
Lights are so unbalanced, they severely are in need of a nerf
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Make the flashbang on breaching drill good
Because melee has damage it must deal, it was set that way from when it was made, and it stayed quiet without any problems since beta. After many seasons have passed, you say youâre going to nerf it? That just means you messed up the patch.
Do you know why this situation even happened? Because all you ever do is nerf things. Thatâs exactly how you get nonsense like this.
Nerfs are not the only way to balance a game. Buffs are a perfectly valid option too.
Damage nerfs need to stop. Start buffing things instead. Games like Apex Legends and Call of Duty actually pulled out of slumps by shortening TTK, not stretching it out. Nerfs donât fix problems.They just kill the fun.
please, stop with the nonsense about nerfing damage for the sake of Light. That doesnât help only Light. It affects every class and ends up making weapons useless.
If you canât kill a Light, you definitely wonât be killing Medium and Heavy. Any supposed benefit for Light is always outweighed by what Medium and Heavy gain.
Melee weapons need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it only makes sense that melee should win up close. Thatâs the basic logic.
About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so high DPS is justified. Double Barrel is only viable up close, and it needs to 2-tap Heavy. That balance was correct. so reverted.
The same goes for Sword. Itâs the same mistake as with Double Barrel. Sword was built around close-range and Lightâs low health.it required specific damage combinations for each classes.
Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + quick melee + left click,
Heavy to double (lunge + quick melee) or 2 lunges + left click.
That was balanced. Swordâs lunge must deal 140 dmg.
Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/
Stop lying and start keeping your promises.
Fun fact the more times you repost your book the less likely people will agree with you
Apex is in it's worst version it's ever been because they just buff random shit. The game takes less and less skill.
Nerfing cheesy shit like the melee's they nerfed lately is exactly the perfect direction for the game. Stop writing walls of text crying to buff shit that takes 0 skill
Please let us change the color of the contestant's eyebrows. đ For a game that generates its money through customization, this is a small detail that would make a huge difference. It's a quick cosmetic change, but for people who care about the aesthetic (see: entire r/TheFinalsRunway community for example) it would be great!
FLAMETHROWER REWORK SUGGESTION
Flamethrower has been vastly underperforming for seasons, and considering the weapon is almost identical to the weapon it was back in OB, itâs about time for it to recieve some major changes.
- Increase its range back to 10 meters: Same range as open beta, its pretty much the only thing it hasnt gotten back.
- Increase overall DPS by 10: This will still leave it doing much less damage than most weapons, but at least it will be killing a medium faster than 3 seconds.
- Rework the "ADS" into an Alternate fire:
- Alt Fire launches a fireball projectile that detonates on impact. Does 70 on a direct hit, trickles off to 30 damage at minimum range. AoE of 3 meters. Costs 5 Ammo to fire, RoF of about 90 RPM. Projectile is about as heavy as current Anti Grav Cube (no "sniping" people with fireballs)
This would give Flamer a bit more utility and viability at range, without completely invalidating its primary fire.
SPEAR REWORK SUGGESTION
Spear as it stands just isnt working. The spin is a fun idea but its too high commitment, and far too easily punished or whiffed. Itâs a fun idea but it needs to go.
- Alt fire is replaced by a spear throw:
-upon alt fire, Heavy "charges" a spear throw (similar to how TK alt fire works) allowing them to throw a 100 damage spear projectile, with the same weight and speed of a CL40 grenade.
This gives spear some utility no other melee can claim, allowing heavy to follow up kills that would otherwise get away from him. Though the DPS would obviously be rather low to punish spamming.
KS-23 REWORK SUGGESTION
The KS23 has been in a sore spot since its addition, what little times its stood in the spotlight very swiftly nerfed out of existence, and in the state its in, its been very cruelly power crept out in lieu of other, more reliable close range options like the KS23 and the minigun. More than anything its main gimmick of being an accuracy weapon that isnt perfectly accurate has lead to it having significant issues, and i think more than anything, that needs to go.
- Primary fire has been changed from a single projectile to a ten pellet spread. Triangular "ten pin bowling" arrangement.
- Each pellet does 10 damage each, and 100 structural each. (maybe 11-12 each but i know we want to avoid QM "kill combos, though my opinion on that is we should just let lights die fast)
- Reload now uses the "double shell" animation regardless of if the weapon has been emptied or not: speeds up general reload time when weapon isnt emptied
This change would give the weapon more reliable consistency in combat without sacrificing its main gimmick of destruction.
Oh and like, just make the MGL grenades explode on player contact. Like cmon, TF2 figured this shit out 17 years ago.
fix spear pls
Custom reticle: I feel like it would be nice to be able to save reticles or assign them to certain guns i like a square for the shotgun but a tighter crosshair for the fcar i think this would be a nice QOL.
it would be cool if the stages got more variants like how vegas has a sandstorm. also it would be cool if we had more modifers to the stages such as moving platforms maybe gravity pockets
I think the light would benefit from having a pizza slicer knife skin. Right now I'm eat a McDonald's McChicken sandwich and it feels right.
Because melee has damage it must deal, it was set that way from when it was made, and it stayed quiet without any problems since beta. After many seasons have passed, you say youâre going to nerf it? That just means you messed up the patch.
Do you know why this situation even happened? Because all you ever do is nerf things. Thatâs exactly how you get nonsense like this.
Nerfs are not the only way to balance a game. Buffs are a perfectly valid option too.
Damage nerfs need to stop. Start buffing things instead. Games like Apex Legends and Call of Duty actually pulled out of slumps by shortening TTK, not stretching it out. Nerfs donât fix problems.They just kill the fun.
please, stop with the nonsense about nerfing damage for the sake of Light. That doesnât help only Light. It affects every class and ends up making weapons useless.
If you canât kill a Light, you definitely wonât be killing Medium and Heavy. Any supposed benefit for Light is always outweighed by what Medium and Heavy gain.
Melee weapons need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it only makes sense that melee should win up close. Thatâs the basic logic.
About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so high DPS is justified. Double Barrel is only viable up close, and it needs to 2-tap Heavy. That balance was correct. so reverted.
The same goes for Sword. Itâs the same mistake as with Double Barrel. Sword was built around close-range and Lightâs low health.it required specific damage combinations for each classes.
Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + quick melee + left click,
Heavy to double (lunge + quick melee) or 2 lunges + left click.
That was balanced. Swordâs lunge must deal 140 dmg.
way too much healing
Fun LTM modes like Heavy hitter cycling ever week or so would be good to have
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Dear Embark Studios,
As a dedicated player and fan of The Finals Iâm writing to ask that you bring back the Affection display to the store. and many of us myself included missed the chance to grab it. If it returns, I can assure you that you already have my money; it's that important to me. -BushWertyRee
Make your achievements easier đ
Season 1-2 diamond backgrounds for playercards should be a thing
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NERF CL40
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NERF HEAL GUN
I wish you could disable the purple visual effects on the ultimate battle pass heads
-fix the matchmaking for casual gamemodes ( power shift, tdm )
-buff defib - don't punish revived teammate. make statue have cooldown for second and/or third defib.
-add cosmetic category: effects - finishing main (ultimate) battle pass pages (not bonus pages) gives you glitch effect to be used with any skin/head/etc.
probably been said before, but please give us the option to choose/favorite what skins rotate with deep shuffle. I'd rather have my cool skins rotate rather than having ALL of them, I don't really care about the item mastery ones being thrown in
kill the db
nurf Cl40 is so OP
Please fix the glitch where you can't talk in after game chat!
lmao
remove cl40
please add a role requirement for sending messages in game-feedback
Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch
Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130
KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120
Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and increase the movement speed when blocking
R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 Ă 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130 or just increase the fire rate to 160 RPM
Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of all melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge and it can also parry the primary attacks and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit
AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose
ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s
Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s
please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
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Please buff the sword, itâs been in the gutter for so long and it feels near impossible to kill lights or heavies before they kill you
SEASON 7: MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT
Core experience is flawed. The new âŹ30 Battle Pass tier proves player experience is secondary to monetization.
Still Missing Basic Features:
No In-Game Profiles (standard in FPS).
No Match History (essential online).
No Personal Stats (classes, weapons, specs, gadgets).
No Community Stats (trends, data).
No Ping Indicator (basic necessity).
No Direct DMs (limits social).
Poor Friend Status (game time, round).
No Clear Numerical Weapon Stats.
No Ranked Solo Queue.
Critical Unresolved Issues:
Unfixed Netcode (persistent issues).
Unreliable Hit Reg (frustrating).
Broken Audio (bugs, impacts awareness).
Poor/Shallow Balance (stale, no depth), why would you put more healing in to the game....?
Horrible Matchmaking (bad RS-system, unbalanced teams).
Monetization & Priorities:
No Local Shop Pricing (Can't buy items with real money, have to exchange to digital currency first, be proactive and transparent before EU forces you to.)
Greedy âŹ30 BP Tier: Shows monetization over core gameplay while issues persist.
buff cl40
buff double barrel
buff pike
nerf dagger
add 60$ exotic seasonal battlepass
add 30$ finals crew monthly subscription
add lootboxes
more gamble wheels
lower server tickrate
If another team grabs the healing orb from heavy, it should turn to their healing orb, you can reclaim it by grabbing it back
play world tour or ranked!
A side grade idea for Lightâs healing gun:
Let each shot apply a regeneration effect with a fixed rate of healing. Each additional shot would simply increase the max amount of health that can be regenerated. Feels less frustrating than simply bursting someoneâs health back to max. đ
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Ump45 or Uzi for medium
Kar98 for light
Acog on fcar and akm
Any red dot sight on pike
game is in the worst state. balance decisions are awful, and the healing crap is not fun.
i cant wait until people actually use game feedback for proper feed back instead of crying for 2 hours about how you lost your game. get better at the finals and dont act like you know how to fix the balence of a game you dont develop. you might play it a lot but if you did and you are actually good you would know how much better the game is now compared to seasons like 3. if we dont count nukes back in the day that is. its not easy to do this shit and dont get me started with Netcode. everyone, literally EVERYONE has to be synced together while a fully destructible environment blows up. its kind of revolutionary if you compare this to other games. go have fun and stop crying.
other than that ive been having server issues recently. hope that you guys can fix that soon. good luck dev team â¤ď¸
"Lights have been getting nothinf but nerfs since season 4, so i think we should nerf dash."
Update after S7 :
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General feedback
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I bought the Ultimate BP . To support you guys, really. But to be honest, from my POV, the price is to much high and should be able to buy IG not by bundle. 20⏠will be fairer price if you can regain it in the BP.
Looks like your hired someone in charge of monetization from Respawn. I bought it this time. Not sure I will do it every seasons.
New season, but still MMH / HHM META
I WOULD KILL TO SEE YOUR DATA ON LIGHT CLASS & HOW WEAK + UNBALANCED THEY ARE
đ˛ For the game đ˛
- Unreal & random crashes still here in S7. More than ever ! I've updated my BIOS because of that
- In pratice game, let us fight between friends
- Why in WT, lose in final round against a tri-stack squad when I'm playing solo ?
- Add "step" in the reload animation so when you climb on something during a reload, it's not completly reset.
- Add a report option " Sabotage " in the report section in game please.
- Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
- Delete low gravity event. It's not fun AT ALL
- Random charm list for weapons/gadgets. EDIT : Thanks for the random skin weapons. Can we just choose multiple skins and randomize them for the next step please ?
- We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
- Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
- Add the possibility to look at the banner of friends & recent players.
- **Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match. Like "only M and Dual Blade", "only Light and SR84", "only marksman", "No heal, Light only and grenade only". You can imagine all you want and put it in private match for streamer & their community to make the game more fun **
**âď¸ For balance âď¸ **
- REVERT CL40 BUFF. It's destroying the fun in your game
- Revert the nerf of the XP54. What's the point of putting XP at 16 dmg when M11 do the same, faster & with more bullets ?
- Nulifier is just useless. Offer invincibility to the ennemy ? Really ?
Rework : When you get it by the "Taser" your recoil is increased but you can still move as you want and your take 5 dmg/sec by the electricity. Can hit multiple target like lockbolt. - You shouldn't be able to right clic sword + dash
- Nerf the CB01-Repeater damage or increase the recoil
- Rework Vanish Bomb. Make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light and it can be use for your teammates too !
- Nerf Turret range.
- Reduce the radius of the reflect of the Dual Blade or let us shoot in the feet or something else to let us counter DB when you got an AR like Riot Shield.
- Nerf the range of the KS23. You can put 100 dmg at 20m.
- Nerf PIKE to 48 dmg instead of 50 dmg.
- Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive safier !
- Rework Sonar : Scan 5 times instead of 3 but if you don't move it can't scan you
- Winch & lockbolt shouldn't do damage. It's strong enough to not make damage
- Try to rework the ARN into a real AR ? Slower RPM but much more DMG. Something like the FCAR / AK for example.
The effort to play Light correctly is too damn high compared to Medium and Heavy. There is no fun at all playing Light.
You're scared of buffing XP or ARN because of cry baby. The class got ONLY 150HP ! REMEMBER ?!
Meanwhile Medium spam with CL40 and Heavy are unkillable with the new heal.
** đ Servers problems đ **
- Improve your netcode / tickrate or I don't know what ! Dying behind cover it's one of the most frustrating thing in The Finals
- Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls, doors and farer than it should be
- Sword, dagger, dualsword or all other melee weapon feels unfair when you think you're out of range and die anyway.
I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.
pls make3 the respawn timer always the same
I want to complain as well but this guy did it perfectly
Keep this clown away from the balance and game dev team đ¤Ą
Lights are a multitool. Thereâs no point in playing any other class
skill issue tbh + white name
Buff cl40
remove all heals from the game
and also the defib
Me running away from hammer guys shooting them in the face laughing haha thanks for the free kills. >Light teamates dashing into the hammer guys getting killed hammer is over preforming
Faster breach charge fuse time, takes forever to detonad
greatly shorten Reshaper recharge time, or give third charge back
Nerf Demat recharge time
Buff Pyro grenade area of effect
Nerf CL40 yesterday
BRING BACK BANK IT!

buff the model please
Nerf CL40
TUNA CAN PYRO MINE PLEASE EMBARK
If the Swordâs lunge doesnât go back to 140 damage, then itâs just a useless weapon.
If itâs under 140, you canât use it against Medium or Heavy at all. It has to be 140. That value was carefully calculated and made perfect sense in terms of balance.
Everyone knows Dagger and Sword get countered by Light.
But you nerfed Sword while pretending it was for the sake of Light users, even though it was obviously done to benefit Mediums. You nerfed Dagger too and have ignored both weapons ever since.
People are tired of these blatant patches made only for Medium. Thereâs a reason people started saying âThe Mediums.â It didnât come from nowhere.
Medium has tons of tools to counter melee.
Turrets, mines, goo grenade, glitch trap, Dematerializer, jump pad, zip line, Proximity Sensor, and a bunch of weapons.
And still, these players cry for nerfs to Dagger, Dual Blades, Riot Shield, Sledgehammer, Spear, and Sword, even though they already have all those tools. They just canât handle melee weapon because of a skill issue.
Heavy is still powerful at close range, so melee isnât even a threat to them.
If you keep listening to people who ask for nerfs not because something is overpowered, but just because it annoys them, of course the game will fall apart.
And thatâs exactly what youâre doing. Please get it together.
Tons of weapons that were unfairly nerfed or are simply trash get completely ignored.
Instead, you only nerf or buff whatever is most used or most complained about on Reddit.
Is that what you call proper balancing?
About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted it. Because Light has low HP, so high DPS is justified. Double Barrel is only viable up close, and it needs to 2-tap Heavy. That balance was correct.
The same goes for Sword. Nerfing melee damage is basically saying âdonât use it.â Itâs the same mistake as with Double Barrel. Sword was built around close-range and Lightâs low health.it required specific damage combinations for each classes.
Photo mode please đđ¸
Buff sword and Hammer
How about hiding the cash amount from other players so that only you can see your own cash? This would be a measure to prevent third-party interference
damn nerf this fucking cl40, not a game without idiots playing this asshole weapon... if it was just 1 guy it would be fine, but NO it's always 3 or 4 guys playing this shit 0% skill no aim, just spam like a son of a bitch, it's toxic unplayable, everything suits me whether it's the knife, the flamethrower, the hammer, but not this ******** cl40 , pls nerffffffffff
I just want console keyboard and mouse support bro pls :â(
if hammer swing speed is faster i wouldn't be complaining about it, it would balance it
nerf turret range and db
REMOVE CL40 IMMEDIATELY PLEASE ITS SUCH A PAIN TO PLAY AGAINST
Remove Richard. Too powerful.
please let us favourite Charms and stickers (and maybe some other things like clothing pieces or emotes). favourited stuff will show up above evrything else.
i hate having to scroll down to Equip a charm or a sticker all the time
This.
make kyoto playable
Mgl needs a 1 damage buff
Make MGL a gadget
mythic skin should have all optic skin matching right?
Please add one of those emotes like the watch check emote (I forgot the official name) but you eat a fish it would be so funny
Let us put randomize on ever cosmetic
NERF CL40
can we make the Melee hit be a knife
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1ligy51/for_the_people_who_feels_like_cl40_is_busted/ people as 1500 cl-40 hour main i made another reddit post about current cl-40 can you guys give me feedback about this?
mythic skins are a poor excuse to increase prices [change my mind]
should be tested in World Tour
i think the whole idea is to be able to prevent team from piling on who are in first, or vice versa for a top team to target a lower team.
^ this, im all for fun and varied playstyles, but the splash is brutal
On a similar not please revert dagger nerfs, especially this seasons, i understand it was considered a "bug fix" but it added unique utility to an already inconsistent and frustrating weapon. The 150 nerf didnt change the perceived facestabs which where caused my server desync, the same reason you can get shot around cover, it only made it more inconsistent for the user. It already has a ton of nerfs that have made it unviable, especially with dealing with other lights that have a much faster ttk and can easily avoid backstabs (losing og stun gun hasn't helped either). Slide degeneration isnt recovered while charged and doesn't work half the time and you are slower than a heavy while charged, making dash almost a requirement, especially after the cloak nerfs. Melee in general has been very poorly handled, ranged weapons have equal to faster ttk, throwing knives can 1 shot a light at a range but sword cant at melee range, there is little reward for sacrificing range. Most are played at this point just because it is a different and more fun playstyle for many players that is becoming increasingly more frustrating. I feel like game sense and coordination should be more rewarded instead of devolving into who can track the head the most consistently with an smg. (Not dissing smg users, just mean other playstyles should be viable.)
- NERF CL40
- NERF HEAL GUN
Please fix spawns. You're rewarding teams who die first in the game to get the jump on teams who fought and won their battle? We need variable spawn timers and locations depending on many factors like how many cash outs have started, and how many people are alive on map. Too often it feels like just wiping quickly is the best option - and it breaks the game - especially for new players.
Also - please just remove CL40 and Thermal Vision, and even smoke grenades - they're doing nothing for the game because of the terrible/limited counterplay between the classes
Also - talking again with Carnifex wo agrees that teams wiped should be visible on scoreboard in ranked. Don't get the logic behind hiding that. It would at least help because the spawns are bad right now
Do the devs ever talk or give updates on what their opinions are about specific topics that a large amount of players are complaining about, or do they wait to tell us about what they've decided after a patch is made? I would really like someone from Embark to have a presence about our major concerns, even if it's just an update on what they're noticing in the threads and what, if anything, they are testing etc etc.
Bring keyboard to console đąď¸â¨ď¸ đ đŽ
Buff dagger and sword đĄď¸â â
Amazing game, please just make melee viable!!
The reflex scope or "Looking glass" is actually so hard to see in combat
rage bait use to be believable đ
I used my 4 hours for that.
Also feedback - enable nvidia reflex 2 for us to test please! I saw it in the CFG file!
buff sniper no scope accuracy, idk if the problem is me or the sniper is just shit at close range even if youre aiming at the person
make P.E.A.C.E its own playlist for TDM, all other maps expect Syshorizon suck ass for this mode
spawns have been kinda bad this season for some reason alot of 3rd pary lol
lower the ttk across the board
Four words skill based match making tired of dieing to a guy with 80k times my kills I have 29 hours in the game figj8nt a guy with 89 k kills like come on
sledge hammer is extremely easy to kill when heavy's are using it
Light is the strongest class rn, with medium slightly behind it. Stop deluding yourself into thinking that light is weak. If you can't make light work even now you're just a bad player.
Day 9 of asking embark to bring back bank it
NERF CL40!!!!
Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch
Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130
KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120
Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and increase the movement speed when blocking
R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 Ă 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130 or just increase the fire rate to 160 RPM
Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of all melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge and it can also parry the primary attacks and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit
AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose
ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s
Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s
please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
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The model 1887 definitely needs some love right now. It feels like it's trying to be the jack of all trades and the master of none, but it can barely do that. Anything that the model can do, any of the other shotguns in the game can do it better.
Dear EMBARK TEAMDear EMBARK TEAM I have one thing to say about your patchotes we real the last patchotes are right against Mele Weapons properly shit I see no one wants the weapons that the weapons are generated as Z. Dagger or Hammer and Sword (except Appoh) But they do it anyway they only lose your players because that annoys. That's why I ask you to BUFF the weapons again especially hammer and sword in the next UPDATE thank you
How about instead of putting all your time into making skins you improve your dogshit servers?
CERB should deal more fire damage
After the recent damage nerf, I though it would be sick to rework this weapon a bit to the point where 25/35% of itâs damage would source of burning, rather then on-hit damage. That would be a really interesting play style
This ignition thing has so much potential and can be one of the most fun shotguns.
Even a buff to ignition rate/duration would make it a lot different. The on-hit damage could be reduced further in such a case.
Imagine having a flamethrower-like weapon on medium! That would be amazing!
While I know this wonât change your mind, mythic skins are not a poor reason as they have clearly described why they made the mythic tier as a whole, as well as why they increased the price for said mythic weapons. The reason being that each and every mythic skin requires some sort of extra work being put into, whether this be special vfx or custom voice lines or sounds or images or anything. All the mythic skins require something extra, and that means extra work, because of that, they should of course be compensated properly, and that means more payment. Trying to make those weapons cost less is insulting to the devs who put in extra work
Nerf cl40
The âFreeze Frameâ emote in the BP should have the bullets stay frozen in the air instead of dropping. It looks silly and low quality when they drop, almost like someone is clicking and dragging the whole grouping down.
Buff sword
Do conisder adding a red dot or looking glass sight on the Pike. Don't need to add all the other reticles. just one that would be a in-between iron and scope unless the worry is that every pike user would default to that sight.
Do you even know what you mean by âincreased usageâ? It means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed.Itâs not like it just became OP and people started using it.
Stop fxxking nerf. Youâre patching the game straight into the ground.
The only useful thing about the Sledge nerf is that it finally helped 'most people with basic human reasoning' realize how absurd the Sword damage nerf was.
Anyone who has tried using the Hammer after this patch knows it's completely trash now.
And that's exactly what happened to the Sword.
Iâve been saying this the whole time. Nerfing melee damage is the same as saying âdonât use it.â
Sword and hammer are melee weapon. It requires some form of high dmg output in order to compete with other weapons in close range.
I just want to clarify, I am not saying any of the weapons needs nerf. Others do what they are intended to do.
I just want MELEE weapon and underperforming weapon to actually be USABLE.
Fix the damage. Im tired of weapons getting nerfed simply because people dislike it(cause skill issue).
Yours literlly said,"weâre going to continue to monitor the Sword and explore some alternative changes that might allow us to nudge the lunge damage back up".And yet, thereâs been zero follow-up. No balancing, no communication, nothing.
So the sword gets ignored for an entire season, and now you're targeting the sledge hammer instead?
You must stop listening to nerf parrots.Thereâs no end to the nerf parrotsâ whining. When something they wanted nerfed without any real balance reason(dislike cause skill issue) gets nerfed, they just move on to whine about the next thing.
Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/
Stop lying and start keeping your promises.
punishment for leaving isn't long enough - not enough of a detterent make it 30 minutes and climb the more they leave matches. ONLY apply this to WT and Ranked
Just because you think Light is strong doesn't mean Sword and Dagger aren't objectively garbage.
Bring back Melee viability please :3
i stoped running away from hammer heavys because i can just kill them by doing nearly nothing but holding down LMB and "S"
I would pay you Multibucks if you could let me give limited time items to my friends. Take it out of my inventory and transfer it to a friend.
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Big wishlist:
Revert dagger nerf (let it backstab turrets again, and increase the angle)
Revert sword nerf (PLEASE give it 140 lunge damage, it needs it)
Revert sledge nerf (at least the left click part)
Also with the sledge buff, nerf winch! Itâs the problem!
Let riot shield block/reduce damage from explosions
Increase dual blades deflection accuracy
Increase CL-40 self damage and make the projectile slower, to allow time to react
Make breach drill faster and a maybe a bigger explosion
Bring back grenade grappling, and make it easier
Make m11 a close range option, XP a mid range one, and ARN a longer range one. Same thing with AKM, FCAR, and famas, respectively
Make heal ball not regenerate cooldown until destroyed
Nerf h+ healing a bit
Fix performance and freezing
There may be more, but this is what I think for now
I've been hearing a lot of negative feedback regarding the medium grenade launcher.
The consensus has been "nerf it pretty pretty please", but I think we need a more fresh approach.
A lot of weapons are starting to feel underpowered in reference to others, and I don't think the solution is to keep bogging stuff down with nerfs. I think some weapons need to be pulled UP.
guys, is it me or when launching game the precompiling shader pipelines is getting more frequent?
Don't nerf CL, buff others. I'd rather play against people who have to aim rather than spam grenades, even if that'd mean playing against cerberus or any shotgun for that matter.
- CL needs to be more like the MGL
also please do more about the rediculous chat filter. "lmao" is banned yet every variation of the r- slur is allowed and I don't see any ban confirmations roll in anymore since S7 despite tireless amount of reports.
Anticheat seems to be non functional or non existent atm, rage aimbotters reported time and time again and I see them again the next morning in my game and it's getting super frustrating to even touch this game at all
or you know, give nexon less revenue and invest in an actual anticheat, not this EAC bs
Also embark PLEASE give me the CNS lobby screen background as an actual image I beg you
I see what you mean but then health amounts will have to change
In my opinion heavy has always has WAY too much health, and it feels like steals are faster this season
This makes it harder to stop a heavy from stealing, just a dome shield and healing emitter with a light/medium on another healing item can litterally tank for multiple seconds while stealing
Also the grenade launcher is WAY too spammable for itâs high splash damage, it needs a splash and fire rate nerf tbh
Also long TTKs are important for the game, or most movement tech on maps would be deadly, like jump pads would basically make you a free kill if all weapons were buffed
is it possible to refund a weapon skin?
I shouldnât be the one punished if an enemy gets within melee. FIX SLEDGE, FIX MELEE
We need a ( very )little buff for snip : 0 bloom in noscope. If yhe bullet just go in center of the screen it was perfect
Hello everyone
Since we have the badges for revives cash earned etc why don't we have one for damage done.
And now that more and more people achieve the purple ones, isn't it time to add another color to the list ?
Also can we have a top 500 world tour color like sapphire or something like that ?
For people who have a bunch of time but can't compete with the actual pros in the game ?
Also a badge for hours spent in the game I think it's an honor to see people spend so much time in your game.
holy crap the game is crashing like crazy, like at least 1 time every tournament
I would sooner eat a hammer than trust some of you with balance decisions.
Also reenable the option to disable the chat filter
This weapon is a top 3 medium weapon in ranked play rn. It does not need a buff.
FLAMETHROWER REWORK SUGGESTION
Flamethrower has been vastly underperforming for seasons, and considering the weapon is almost identical to the weapon it was back in OB, itâs about time for it to recieve some major changes.
- Increase its range back to 10 meters: Same range as open beta, its pretty much the only thing it hasnt gotten back.
- Increase overall DPS by 10: This will still leave it doing much less damage than most weapons, but at least it will be killing a medium faster than 3 seconds.
- Rework the "ADS" into an Alternate fire:
- Alt Fire launches a fireball projectile that detonates on impact. Does 70 on a direct hit, trickles off to 30 damage at minimum range. AoE of 3 meters. Costs 5 Ammo to fire, RoF of about 90 RPM. Projectile is about as heavy as current Anti Grav Cube (no "sniping" people with fireballs)
This would give Flamer a bit more utility and viability at range, without completely invalidating its primary fire.
SPEAR REWORK SUGGESTION
Spear as it stands just isnt working. The spin is a fun idea but its too high commitment, and far too easily punished or whiffed. Itâs a fun idea but it needs to go.
- Alt fire is replaced by a spear throw:
-upon alt fire, Heavy "charges" a spear throw (similar to how TK alt fire works) allowing them to throw a 100 damage spear projectile, with the same weight and speed of a CL40 grenade.
This gives spear some utility no other melee can claim, allowing heavy to follow up kills that would otherwise get away from him. Though the DPS would obviously be rather low to punish spamming.
KS-23 REWORK SUGGESTION
The KS23 has been in a sore spot since its addition, what little times its stood in the spotlight very swiftly nerfed out of existence, and in the state its in, its been very cruelly power crept out in lieu of other, more reliable close range options like the KS23 and the minigun. More than anything its main gimmick of being an accuracy weapon that isnt perfectly accurate has lead to it having significant issues, and i think more than anything, that needs to go.
- Primary fire has been changed from a single projectile to a ten pellet spread. Triangular "ten pin bowling" arrangement.
- Each pellet does 10 damage each, and 100 structural each. (maybe 11-12 each but i know we want to avoid QM "kill combos, though my opinion on that is we should just let lights die fast)
- Reload now uses the "double shell" animation regardless of if the weapon has been emptied or not: speeds up general reload time when weapon isnt emptied
This change would give the weapon more reliable consistency in combat without sacrificing its main gimmick of destruction.
Oh and like, just make the MGL grenades explode on player contact. Like cmon, TF2 figured this shit out 17 years ago.
Can we please be able to buy at least one item from the DLCs?
I'm willing to pay 1200MBs just for the body paint 
These are changes I hope everyone could agree on and embark could consider:
-Dagger give it bigger backstab hitbox and remove the tracker for left click, backstab feels so inconsistent especially now with the server issues and even without its really difficult to get a reliable backstab
-CL-40, nerf base damage, remove a nade, reduce the explosion radius at least one of the above
- Rever Fcar recoil pattern
- Give KS-23 at least 105 damage, it'd make up for the still rather bad ads or hip fire for that matter
- Sh1900make it 1 shot heavies atp its way too overrated and the damage needs a rework, its reload is also too quick, anyone with good aim can easily wipe 1 or 2 of your team with zero actual strategy
- Pike give it better hip fire and at least introduce the default XP-54 sight to it, the current sight feels way too clunky
- XP-54, make it an actual viable weapon at medium range, it was intended to be a after the nerf its hardly any better then AR in even CQC only by the slightest margin, AR just outshines it in 90% of scenarios
- V9S, make it so it can be used the same by everyone, not better by those who can just click quicker
And I'm sure theres plenty more but none that have come to mind just yet
Oh and ps fix the spawns they are sooooo bad in the current game modes such as wt
nerf the fucking shit cl40 holy fuck
Buff cl40, I never win games when I use it
New OSPUZE/HOLTOW(?) event where you have 1 jump pad and 2 pyro grenades with super small cooldowns. No teams just a complete free for all with a bunch of pyromaniacs jumping around, dematerializing, and light each other and the map in fire. I have no idea if this would be fun and probably not easy to code but I just want to light everything on fire
hello
đĽFlamethrower should set terrain on fire after using 10 ammo and people rarely hide on trees or in grass so setting that on fire isnât useful,itâs a great defensive utility.
This time the only flamethrower burns the terrain spot u fire for a long time and canât spread to the entire building cause itâs concrete and not grass
Make 93r have more fire rate like reducing the time between bursts,make it shoot 4 bullets at a SLOWER pace,itâs like semi auto
The ks23 needs slightly higher projectile speed as even in mid range u have to lead your shots and it looks like it should hit but doesnât,needs headshot 1.2x to make it truly unique and stand out and destruction breaks entire walls,it just needs to break to pass through
Light breach charge needs to stack damage atleast close to what it was in season1
U should be able to charge a riot shield bash by using the weapon inspection button where u hit ur shield with Baton as a taunt and a telegraph to charge shield bash and use it to get closer or knock(5 damage) them off structures
I tried to use the CL-40 and it's trash, I can't get a single non-myself kill at all... buff immediately
Bullshit the CL 40 is an overpowered weapon you donât even have to be good with aiming to get the kill in fact if the MGL 32 had the same blast radius and the same impact damage youâd be saying how much you want it to be Nerfed you dirty medium, would never understand
There's an inherent problem of how they designed the "class" system. They give players every specialization and every gadget, so of course they use only the best options.
If it were me, I would have made each Specialization its own class, and limit what weapons and gadgets they get based on that.
So, for example, Heal Beam would be the "Support" class. They would be the only one with Defib, and they would have mostly the mid-range options.
Demat would be something like the "Hacker" class, and they would be mostly close range weapons and be the only one with Data Reshaper.
Winch would be...idfk...the Hunter or something and only have melee, SA1216, and the SHAK-50, but in exchange no Dome Shield or RPG.
They gave players fewer choices because they gave every spec access to every build-specific gadget. You get forced into only taking the best options, instead of spreading those meta-defining gadgets out.
If embark don't buff the sledgehammer, I will continue to do this to Kyoto
cheating (aimbot / wallhacking / kronus) has never been more pervasive.
dagger is a non-competitive weapon and it breaks my heart. i love the gameplay of contesting the enemy team's position to get behind them, and not taking direct fights, but having spent 2k+ hours with the game and playing the dagger almost exclusively since season 1, i could switch to m11 / xp / sh1900 and get a better result in 9 out of 10 matches. i can't name a single top 500 dagger user and it's for a reason; it's been neglected in the weapon balance consideration. the bugs and counterplay gadgets continue to climb, while the dagger sits in the gutter and isn't considered a serious weapon by much of the community. the asymmetry of the playstyle is really captivating and has gripped my attention more than any other game right now, but needs some help to keep up with other options.
no dagger main, despite countless hours invested, can seriously consider trying out for the worlds until the weapon is brought into line.
as a result of this imbalance, the amount of hate i receive from teammates for choosing dagger before the match even begins in both text and comms should be example enough.
(cl-40 still wins at close range and the feedback calling for additional cl-40 buffs are from clowns deliberately trying to skew the feedback data)
how many seasons til a gemstone dagger reward is offered? there will almost certainly be gemstone rewards for weapons that haven't yet been introduced first. how many seasons til dagger is offered in the new start of season weapon package?
overall, i'm happy with what the studio is doing with the game and i'm excited to continue to play & create content for the finals. thank you for taking the time to read this feedback and rest assured i won't be spam posting this message.
I am hearing the steal well after it is started. I didn't know it is faster, but indications the steal had started are delayed.
@bodyhammer.#0000 i was coming in to say same thing.
can we get the option to show zeros for player numbers, so you can have 1, 2, 5, 7 etc and 00, 01, 02, 07 etc as well.
i feel like all weapons needs a 10-20% nerf in recoil like its not fun to play against 3 mediums with weapons that have no recoil but it goes for almost all weapons its not fun to play vs and its not fun to play because it ruins the game IMO like you can be 75m away from the point and you just die
IMO the cl-40 is good again. but they cant nerf it anymore or itll go back to where it was where theres no point in running it like it was. the best way to counter it ia to bring a aps turret. If they nerf it anymore itll go on the list of no use weapons.
Like what do we want with the CL-40 less rounds in it, less dmg? we had that and we bitched about it, now then they buffed it then we bitched about it. then they turned it down last season and all of sudden its a major pain, like what? be happy and use the tools they gave us to counter it aps and work as team. It sucks but they cant nerf everything to please the handful of people who cant change there little meta brains.
Cheating is just completely skyrocketed all of a sudden.
Buff dagger
Devs ain't reading allat since its mostly complaints. I am no exception.
Give us the ability to choose our background!
I loved the Season 1 Background, I lowkey want to feel these OG vibes again.
LET US HEAR THE ENTIRE SOUNDTRACKS IN THE MAIN MENU, THE QUEUES ARE TOO SHORT OUTSIDE OF RANKED TO HEAR THE TRACKS THAT ONLY PLAY WHEN YOU QUEUE UP FOR SOME REASON
Hear me out greatsword sledgehammer skin
Oh my days embark for all thats good dont nerf CL-40 and listen to these whining crybabies
Heavy has enough health to make CL-40 not much of a problem, medium has aps turret and jump pad (for gaining height), and light has a grapple and a sniper and loads other stuff to help ppl win against CL-40 users.
The fact that CL-40 doesnt do well at all against people who are at a height advantage makes it extremely vulnerable at those times so takes a whole lotta skill to use. Nerfing it will just make another med weapon useless and the funnest med weapon shit again.
Literally every single person complainging abt the gun right now is the same person that cried for all the nerfs to so many other medium weapons. They called out for other medium weapons to be nerfed, ppl got discouraged into playing with them, ppl wanted a gun that was fun gameplay wise, so they took CL-40.
You absolutely cannot nerf a gun just becuase its getting used so much more in quick cash. Maybe, maybe if other med weapons were buffed, specifically dual blades and such weapons that have a more unique weapon style, then maybe we mediums wouldnt be forced to use CL-40 when trying to have fun in casual.
TL;DR: CL40 is prob one of the most skillful weapons to use, requires a lot of brainpower that most whiners don't have, and is one of the only actually fun to use guns for mediums. DONT NERF IT, BUFF OTHER WEAPONS FGS.
lock bolt health 2 much
Revert dagger nerfs or at least make them less severe, being slower than a heavy and unable to slide lunge half the time is ridiculous
Embark you know this.
When people said #freemoolah we were all under the impression that we wanted 100% moo's ON ELIMINATION.
This is a fact, because that's the only information you provided in the patch notes. Something along the lines of 'reduced chance for moo to 25% on elimination'
After the petition was successfully received. You for no fucking reason at all decided to take the piss out of us and make the charm moo every time any small interaction causes the gun to go off screen for any second, making for constant moos.
Noone mentioned this because what we have now is better than no moo's at all, but I think most would agree we were petitioning for a reactive charm.
Also clearly this is an item only you yourself should hear. Not teammates or enemies just you. This is undoubtably in my mind why it was ever 'nerfed' in the first place. Obvious fix is make it only audible to the user.
Update after S7 :
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General feedback
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I bought the Ultimate BP . To support you guys, really. But to be honest, from my POV, the price is to much high and should be able to buy IG not by bundle. 20⏠will be fairer price if you can regain it in the BP. I bought it this time. Not sure I will do it every seasons.
Cheaters are spreading and matchmaking is worst this season
New season, but still MMH / HHM META
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR DATA ON LIGHT CLASS & HOW WEAK + UNBALANCED THEY ARE
đ˛ For the game đ˛
- Unreal & random crashes still here in S7. More than ever ! I've updated my BIOS because of that
- In pratice game, let us fight between friends
- Why in WT, lose in final round against a tri-stack squad when I'm playing solo ?
- Add "step" in the reload animation so when you climb on something during a reload, it's not completly reset.
- Add a report option " Sabotage " in the report section in game please.
- Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
- Delete low gravity event. It's not fun AT ALL
- Random charm list for weapons/gadgets. EDIT : Thanks for the random skin weapons. Can we just choose multiple skins and randomize them for the next step please ?
- We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
- Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
- Add the possibility to look at the banner of friends & recent players.
- **Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match. Like "only M and Dual Blade", "only Light and SR84", "only marksman", "No heal, Light only and grenade only". You can imagine all you want and put it in private match for streamer & their community to make the game more fun **
**âď¸ For balance âď¸ **
- REVERT CL40 BUFF. It's destroying the fun in your game
- Revert the nerf of the XP54. What's the point of putting XP at 16 dmg when M11 do the same, faster & with more bullets ?
- Nulifier is just useless. Offer invincibility to the ennemy ? Really ?
Rework : When you get it by the "Taser" your recoil is increased but you can still move as you want and your take 5 dmg/sec by the electricity. Can hit multiple target like lockbolt. - You shouldn't be able to right clic sword + dash
- Nerf the CB01-Repeater damage or increase the recoil
- Rework Vanish Bomb. Make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light and it can be use for your teammates too !
- Nerf Turret range.
- Reduce the radius of the reflect of the Dual Blade or let us shoot in the feet or something else to let us counter DB when you got an AR like Riot Shield.
- Nerf the range of the KS23. You can put 100 dmg at 20m.
- Nerf PIKE to 48 dmg instead of 50 dmg.
- Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive safier !
- Rework Sonar : Scan 5 times instead of 3 but if you don't move it can't scan you
- Winch & lockbolt shouldn't do damage. It's strong enough to not make damage
- Try to rework the ARN into a real AR ? Slower RPM but much more DMG. Something like the FCAR / AK for example.
The effort to play Light correctly is too damn high compared to Medium and Heavy. There is no fun at all playing Light.
You're scared of buffing XP or ARN because of cry baby. The class got ONLY 150HP ! REMEMBER ?!
Meanwhile Medium spam with CL40 and Heavy are unkillable with the new heal.
** đ Servers problems đ **
- Improve your netcode / tickrate or I don't know what ! Dying behind cover it's one of the most frustrating thing in The Finals
- Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls, doors and farer than it should be
- Sword, dagger, DualS or all other melee weapon feels unfair when you think you're out of range and die anyway.
I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.
I'm genuinely so tired of this game's trash matchmaking. I shouldn't be getting lvl 13 teammates and lvl 80+ opponents as a level 60
It's nearly unplayable after getting crushed multiple times in a row by people who are waayy better than me in a casual game mode
ADD IN A CB01 ANIMATION PACK ALREADY JUST BECAUSE IT DOESNT MAKE YOU MONEY LIKE ARN OR SA12 DOESNT MEAN YOU SHOULD IGNORE IT
Dear EMBARK TEAM
Dear EMBARK TEAM I have one thing to say about your patchotes we real the last patchotes are right against Mele Weapons properly shit I see no one wants the weapons that the weapons are generated as Z. Dagger or Hammer and Sword (except Appoh) But they do it anyway they only lose your players because that annoys. That's why I ask you to BUFF the weapons again especially hammer and sword in the next UPDATE thank you
So all that money from nexon didnt go towards fixing the server lag and frame stuttering huh? Or at least buying more servers
I feel you, reading through this channel gave me stage 3 cancer.
This games latest update breaking the PC with bsod errors
nerf the light, wtf is that arn dmg and recoil? every week is just worst than the last one
can you maybe put something that doesnt make u lose RS when a tm8 leaves a game in ranked
Either increase the drop rate of Show Tokens and/or allow me to trade in VRs for them. Solves the problem of legacy battle passes taking forever to grind and/or the problem of VRs being useless after unlocking everything.
At that point im considering stop playing until you guys nerf the CL40
repeater needs to do 88 dmg so it can 4 tap heavies which is 2.34 second ttk cuz rn the revolver is the better option
And for the majority that play casual???
most obvious aimbot i've ever seen GOOBAMI_PEEK#5389
WHY THE FUCK DOES CL-$= DO SO MUCH DAMAGE
BUFF DAGGER, BUFF SLEDGEHAMMER, BUFF SPEAR, BUFF SWORD!
SAVE MELE!!!
im not trying to hate here but, as a s2 diamond, ive used to swear this is the best game ever, though the meta at the time wasnt the best, when i tried the game every season after, it just got worse and worse. Light feels useless, and no i not bad at him, ive spammed him to dia back then even though he was considered a useless class (i also played dash and not invis). He, more than ever feels squishy and useless. I get 1/2 tapped by pretty much every weapon thats in the meta right now. every shotgun in the game is ridiculously broken and unfun to play against. Medim guns are at the sweet id say (ARs). They feel pretty good to use and not unfair to verse. Dont really have much to say about heavy, he has nerfed shields etc which is good, also rpgs no longer 1 shot lights, they feel okay going against. Melee weapons have completely disappeared since shotguns are so broken. Invis on light is no longer an invis, u dont ever get invisible enough. vanish nade is useless since pretty much its whole duration you are visible pretty clearly, dash has a longer cooldown for some reason, even though it was never the problem. Ill say tho stungun rework is alright, it feels more fair i guess, even though i think the old one was fine as well (if you could aim). Pretty much what im saying here is that whenever i try and play again the meta just gets me off after 2 games... It really isnt fun at all getting 1 shot by everyone. I hope yaall stop adding more and more shotguns and just play a bit with the health values maybe, thats my take atm. Still a good game, just needs adjustments. Also performance needs fixing. 100-150 frames while i get locked 240 in everything else is kinda crazy (i know theres a lot of destruction etc but just wanted to point it out)
Day 28 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)
It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes
It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex
Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it
(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)
Accidently leaving club and rejoining should not reset club progress
The CL-40 needs a buff tbh
REMOVE CL-40
can i get a rez
Your servers are a fucking joke. Either upgrade or remove this delusional "eSports Ready" bullshit
only fun weapon and only light decent counter for medium....
Please add variations to the maps. Nozomi can have like âCNS takes 70% of the mapâ and âVAIIYA takes 70% of the mapâ.
I just want to say that I thought itâs supposed to experience 3 different versions of one map in a full tournament, but we donât have enough
Can we add an auto expression after team wipe (or kill) feature? I have so many of those one handed emote that I never use, would be cool if I could select a couple of them and have one of them get randomly selected after a team wipe. I feel like its the sort of thing a contestant who's pumped about the game would do after winning a fight against another team, would make it much more immersive. Bonus points if you could make it a user customizable % of the time (I.e. 50% chance to emote after a wipe), or also providing options to emote on plug/cashout/revive/kill.
Not sure how difficult it would be to code, but given that the moo charm already kinda does it, I can't imagine it requiring a massive refactor of the system.
The frag grenade or explosion canister should be able to get rid of smoke effects
Started a ranked match, finally got some semi competent teammates too. Though it was the one where i could finally reearn my points. Turns out, the game had a trick up it's sleave and just put up a messege about a unidetified fiele getting detected, proceded to kick me from match, close the game and fucking forc me to verify files. How the fuck is this accaptable for a game that is supposed to have a real esports turnament where it can happen to any team contending. How is it that** i'm fucking punished** by loosing points for the devs that can't make a stable build of the game? adding on to that my teammates also got punished for your incompetance. Yet here you are wanting us to pay 30 dollars for a game that can fuck you over when it feels like it this should not be a thing, and you know it.
P.S. To this day i did not get any ranked points for loosing a match where some cheater was banned mid game, that shit happened a week ago.
smokes are totally bugged on nozomi/citadel. I can clearly see through while being inside of them
embark i love this new season, but its a bit contaminated with some bugs. one i find particularly annoying since last season is that sometimes the particles [especially with wing emotes] are too excessive and look like a bad photo, it also messes up the sprays where you got your character and pose in it
either way you guys rock this season
We prefer a balanced game where players use all sorts of weapons and there being a few weapons that have a higher skill ceiling that are not being used as often (rewarding skilled players) in stead of a game where everyone just rolls the same game-ruining weapons forcing people to either use it or call quits all together. The CL should never have been buffed again after the season 5 catastrophe. That's what happens when devs just rely on stats in stead of actual gameplay.
Weapons that can potentially kill multiple players with one click (like the sword did) is just dumb. Anti-fun and anti-skills. And there will always be users of these weapons whining in channels like these, but that shouldn't be overthrowing everyone else's opinion causing these weapons to rule the game. And yes, that means mostly the casual games like WT etc.
Melee, as mentioned by many, is in the WORST state it has been in since launch. Shame. THE FINALS is a unique game and its inclusion of viable melee options was the sole reason I even gave this game a chance.
You've gotta' update melee and re-strengthen them to be viable. Right now, almost none are up to par.
Not saying they need to return back to their original state, but Jesus are they weak. NO reward for closing gaps or getting in on your opponent. I'm lucky I have some people to play/team up with that make it slightly easier to coordinate, but in a solo queue situations or just playing TDM, melee weapons have almost NO 1v1 capability. Nada. None. The nerfs have surpassed most skill-allowable advantages.
Still waiting on a balance patch for this. Hopefully it comes sooner than later.
Listen to this man Embark đ
Have they addressed servers yet?
Please make better maps? Every map feels the same, generic cyberpunk-corpo-hallways and waaay too many damn stairwells. Not every map needs to have 10 levels of verticality
U say that while all of melee is in the gutter
We really really need acoustic echo cancellation for voice chat
Please let us switch out reserve gadgets and weapons mid-round in ranked!
Counterplay in the finals is fun and should be an option in all game modes
Tone down the announcer, im tired of hearing THATS NOT A KILL FART, THATS A KILL SHITTTT!!!
NERF CL40!
I keep getting matches where no show tokens are earned, That should not be possible... I just won a match and got none.
I have a suggestion for the game that could be a slight quality of life update rather than a critique.
Please make it an option to change sights and skins in the practice range, it would be really beneficial to be able to check them out in the game rather than just in the menu.
impossible to win this evening, tired to be match against full 3stack tryhards squad in quick play, i am done, i try to have fun this season but its very very hard
Please remove Kyoto from WT and ranked map pools. It is the worst, in sense of gameplay, map in game. Playing it feels like punishment.
Please increase the show tokens income it takes way more time to finish than the normal bp
The matchmaking in Powershift is out of this world, some of the worst matchmaking i have seen since i've been playing this game. Please do something about it, it's my favourite game mode and 8/10 games i'm facing the toughest and sweatiest teams only to have my teammates leave almost every game and it just kills the fun of it.
The fact that you can't see the enemy ranked rating even after the match is over needs to change..
there are times when both cashouts are in and a teammate will go down and choose to coin. Rather than a relatively normal distance, itll spawn him or them much closer to the opposite cashout rather than the one we literally still own. Games incredible!
Yes, better to nerf 1 thing than to have everything be nerfed.
BUFF CL40
ONE SHOT LIGHT
TWO SHOTS MEDIUMS
TREE SHOTS HEAVIE
Quick question,
Does anyone else feel like every time Embark introduces a new map, old maps no longer exists? Similar to when Kyoto was initially released, or is it just me? Another thing I want to ask is if anyone else is having performance issues? What I'm experiencing is a bit of input delay, random freezes, jittery gameplay, ghost bullets, and rubber banding. I feel like this game is in the worst state I have ever seen.
For the record, I've been playing since Beta and I currently have 1200 hrs in the game. (Also before anyone says something dumb, yes I have checked my wifi and it is not that) I'm very confident that I have a keen sense on what the game normally/should feel like and it's just HORRIBLE right now. I really hope someone on Embark sees this and comments. Maybe I'm wrong... but I REALLY DONT KNOW WHATS HAPPENING!
If anyone agrees or has experienced any of this could you react to it? If your allowed to in this server, I have no idea
- Ya boi Syn
Worst balance suggestions I've seen
Yeah, thatâs for sure, his opinion on balance is straight up ASS
A skin for the DP-28 that turns the magazine into a deep dish pizza and it starts steaming with prolonged firing
Feeling like server lag is stronger this season. Hope for fixes!
YO IM SO TIRED OF THE LAG ARE THEY EVER GOING TO FIX THIS BRO MY GAME CRASHED AND IVE RESTARTED IT TWICE AND IT WONT LOAD INTO THE GAME ANYMORE AND I KNOW ITS NOT MY WIFI BECAUSE I TESTED IT TWICE
Add a siphon system so players can kill a person and not be dead
@hearty hatch I main hammer. Multiple people i played with left due to melee effectiveness. I said don't let them get to you. But most players struggle with positioning. (I also like swordđ)
This season has been the most fun Iâve had in the finals, good job everyone at Embark, I hope your parent company gives you a raise
NERF CL40!!!!!!!
the gmae is really good i love the game its super fun and good graphics and runs really well i cant say enugh about the game
i think if you're getting defibed you should have the option to cancel it, maybe refund some or all of the cooldown but i think the defib needs some way for the player to not get punished for a terrible defib usage that someone else did
Something needs to be done about the CL-40. I'm not one to whine about game balance often but light is almost unplayable with how prevalent it is right now. idk if anyone else has the same opinion as me, i dont really care. Even playing the intended counterplay (height + aps) it still pulls through with ease.
Regardless, you shouldn't be required to play a certain way to have a chance at winning. I'll go 15-3 in a round and still be knocked out because it's just that oppressive when there's more than one on a team.
I haven't been winning at all this season, ive always been finishing second to cl-40 teams. So i tried it, and lo and behold i went on a six tourney win streak.
This isn't to say that there shouldn't be powerful weapons in the game, but any weapon that can 2-shot a light should require skill and effort to use. You don't have to aim the thing, just point and shoot in the enemy's general direction and they'll take at most four shots to kill before they can even get you 2-bar.
Is there some counterplay I'm missing? Is there some secret technique that forcibly disconnects all cl users from the lobby that I just don't know about? Because this is a consistant issue no matter what teammates im playing with. No amount of coordination can compete with the raw and effortless output of the noob tube.
Some specific issues I have:
-Can kill or cripple before the average human can trace the projectiles trajectory and acquire their target.
-Incredibly quiet, borderline silent until the projecile detonates. This worsens the first issue.
-Reloads too quickly- no punishment if you're somehow bad enough to miss a shot.
-Fire rate is too fast. This, paired with the fact that pipes detonate on impact, makes fights against it disorienting even when at a height advantage.
I've loved the finals since season 1, but if the game continues to be in this state i might just quit. The CL-40 just isn't fun to have to deal with in its current state.
Im sorry I can't come up with any specific suggestions for balancing, but it's more of a fundamental issue with how it interacts with the gameplay itself. I don't want the solution to be nerfing it into oblivion, so I can't speak on the subject. That's probably why im not on the balance team at embark.
You guys are so lazy đđ
fix this shitty game, kicked for unauthorized program, im not fucking running anything other than the game second time in a month this plus the game taking 7 years to load is jsut unacceptable. literally lost over 1k rank for it, trash game
Revert sword nerf
just happened to my teammate. in a ranked game. fucking shitty ass game.
Change the Sledgehammer back. Feels worthless at this point, other than building destruction.
so let me get this straight embark. yall have CONTINUED to leave kyoto, a map everyone hates(we all know it) in the game AND you choose to ruin my warmups by making the box battle bots global elites on speed and some kind of futuristic genetic therapy to increase reaction times? if i crashout, you WILL be blamed embark. delete kyoto.
WT SA servers need help
you can turn them off btw, its in the audio settings
db is ruining the game
I donât think you can turn off the new announcer that everyone hates
when will the matchmaking system ever get better? itâs way too many games where i get low levels but go against maxed out ones
Bring the old cashout music back! I don't hate the current one but the other one was such a banger --- also pls nerf the cl40
Idk how badly this will hamstring the CL-40, but since we keep hearing people whine about how hard the gun can cheese Lights...
Reduce damage from 100 to 75
Reduce full damage radius from 0.6m to 0.45m
Readjust the self-damage to match current self-damage values (or not if it feels too harsh on CL users)
But
Give it an additional round capacity.
Then maybe consider if this major change warrants buffing CL's fire rate or projectile flight.
If Lights continue to complain about being two-tapped, idk, nerf the damage to 73 ||then give the projectile homing (jk)||
Alternatively
Just buff the other Medium weapons
Model really could appreciate a reload speed buff, especially as it has harsh competition with other Medium weapon options like Cerberus and Lever-Action which can fill similar niches.
The ARs don't need any buffs tho, they're perfectly fine I think 
breadkife skin for dagger with an inspect that cuts bread then wipes it off
CL-40 needs to go.
Id love to talk to whoever decided that the class with infinite mobility needs ranged weapons with infinite ammo. Its s7 why tf is this still a thing? I love this game but watching it slowly kill itself is depressing when some of the most frustrating problems are so easily fixable.
Fix the spawns. Why am i spawning in the middle of a whole team
system integrity violation? wait what? xd i got kicked from ranked in the last round
NERF FUCKING CL40
revert sword
Please nerf CL40, Get aggressive on aimbots, and fix the crashing on PC đ Just crashed in two games in a row
Please also lengthen the respawn timer or change spawns. It happens so often now where you wipe a team only for them to spawn and be defending the objective when you get there - that's ridiculous
We all lost NERF for the CL40 but the incompetent ones from Embark did not listen to the community long ago and abandoned it, so many of us stopped playing... It is not worth playing a game with the bad service delivered by the mediocre people from Embark.
Revert the weapon system please đ
You shouldn't be punished for movement
Do you even know what you mean by âincreased usageâ? It means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed.Itâs not like it just became OP and people started using it.
Stop fxxking nerf. Youâre patching the game straight into the ground.
The only useful thing about the Sledge nerf is that it finally helped 'most people with basic human reasoning' realize how absurd the Sword damage nerf was.
Anyone who has tried using the Hammer after this patch knows it's completely trash now.
And that's exactly what happened to the Sword.
Iâve been saying this the whole time. Nerfing melee damage is the same as saying âdonât use it.â
Sword and hammer are melee weapon. It requires some form of high dmg output in order to compete with other weapons in close range.
I just want to clarify, I am not saying any of the weapons needs nerf. Others do what they are intended to do.
I just want MELEE weapon and underperforming weapon to actually be USABLE.
Fix the damage. Im tired of weapons getting nerfed simply because people dislike it(cause skill issue).
Yours literlly said,"weâre going to continue to monitor the Sword and explore some alternative changes that might allow us to nudge the lunge damage back up".And yet, thereâs been zero follow-up. No balancing, no communication, nothing.
So the sword gets ignored for an entire season, and now you're targeting the sledge hammer instead?
You must stop listening to nerf parrots.Thereâs no end to the nerf parrotsâ whining. When something they wanted nerfed without any real balance reason(dislike cause skill issue) gets nerfed, they just move on to whine about the next thing.
Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/
Stop lying and start keeping your promises.
currently a bug where equipped animations will sometimes not play and will play default animations instead
Im showing a bunch of people what good gernade launcher spam looks like... while dealing with top tier light enthusiasts.
"whats the point of xp if m11 does the same damage with faster fire rate?
anyway make the pike do the same exact damage as revolver"
Wasting my one every 4 hours game-feedback post just to tell you to never cook again.
With previous battle passes coming back, a LIMITED or EXCLUSIVE rarity should be added for all BP rewards after level 97+ for those rewards never coming back
The ""they're not X, they're Y"" dialogue needs to shut the hell up. Way too frequent, and with no way to turn it off. No, turning off dialogue is not a solution, I want to hear contestant chat wheel. It shouldn't even be tied to the same audio slider.
Also sprint bug and no shoot bug is still in the game at Season 7...........?
FLASHBANGS NEED A NERF THEY LAST WAY TOO LONG, GET RID OF DEFIB IN TDMS AM TIRED OF IDIOT TEAMATES RESSING ME THERE, THE THROWING KNIVES NEED A NERF. THE M60 NEEDS A BUFF TO ITS EANGE AND DAMAGE BY 1. THE AKM NEEDS A BUFF OF FIRE RATE, GIVE IT ITS BULLETS BACK, OR GIVE IT DAMAGE BY 1. THE FLAMETHROWER NEEDS A BUFF AS WELL ITS ONLY VIABLE UP CLOSE AND IT KILLS TOO SLOW
3/10 ragebait, caps gives it away. Take is also too bad you should try a bit more reasonable things next time: a good ragebaiter wouldnt complain about flashbangs cus fr they get countered by moving your mouse to turn your character
the threshold for name bans is getting ridiculous, seems like half the leaderboard is player#
MACCCCCC SUPPORRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
melee should be good close range đŤŁ
Can you please revert the melee changes, especially for sword cuz its been so damn long and you already patched phantoms?
Give the sniper perfect airborne accuracy âď¸đż. Thereâs no reason why the bow should have it an the sniper doesnât
You know 93 damage for Cl-40 in S3 was just unusable even with 100% accuracy? 75 damage max is crazy dude....I'm pretty sure you never used this gun.
I second this, lil bro really thought they were cooking with this?
Nerf cl40.
To combat CL40.. Although I think CL40 is not in a good place.
#đŁâweapons-gadgets message
Lights
cl40 needs to get deleted from this fucking planet (IronWings speaking facts, dk why this channel has 4 hours cooldown but cl40 hopelessly requires the bare minimum skill and has way too much reward for the lack of skill)
nah it's one of the worst weapons in the game. you just need to learn what high ground is
akm buff
We've been hearing the same bullshit excuse for like 3 seasons already. As if a CL40 wasn't actively trying to always get the high ground. As if the CL40 wasn't currently able to out-DPS weapons like the Model while needing half the aiming skill. But OK nobody knows what they're talking about. I've been using the CL40 and if you don't acknowledge it's an absolute noob gun, you probably need that easy crutch to win.
It's a low effort high reward gun at the moment.
Lately, there's been 4 things you can count on encountering:
- death
- taxes
- the finals server issues
- wallhacking cheaters rampant in the finals
LET US ADJUST THE RETICLE SIZE
Can the XP for the Cloaking Device be buffed? Now that the duration of the CD is so low it is miserable trying to grind for the rewards. I've been on the 5th page for over a week. I spent 9 hours playing TDM, just over-and-over, spamming CD and that was about half of tier 4...
BUFF MELEE & non-hitscan weapons!
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OR ELSE
Also, please add slight knockback on explosions. It would nerf CL-40âs close range potential by bringing enemies towards them, and would be very fun.
Nerf CL40
#banCL40
Big wishlist:
Revert sword nerf (PLEASE give it 140 lunge damage, it needs it)
Revert dagger nerf (let it backstab turrets again, and increase the angle)
Revert sledge nerf (at least the left click part)
Also with the sledge buff, nerf winch! Itâs the problem!
Let riot shield block/reduce damage from explosions
Increase dual blades deflection accuracy
Increase CL-40 self damage and make the projectile slower, to allow time to react
Make breach drill faster and a maybe a bigger explosion
Bring back grenade grappling, and make it easier
Make m11 a close range option, XP a mid range one, and ARN a longer range one. Same thing with AKM, FCAR, and famas, respectively
Make heal ball not regenerate cooldown until destroyed
Nerf h+ healing a bit
Fix performance and freezing
There may be more, but this is what I think for now
cl40 isn't fun to play against
ranked playercards and badges from s1 and s2
I agree with every one of these takes 𫡠especially the winch oneâcome on Embark, sledge was NEVER the problem, it was ALWAYS winch. Like really.
remote detonation for breach drill & easier placement pls
Can we please get selective muting? Currently it's all or nothing, but selective muting should be a bare minimum chat feature.
So when are we nerfing the CL?
This!
Please make the final battlepass skin come in pieces rather than an entire outfit :(
I want robo arms.
delete kyoto
Nerf CL-40. I remember when the AKM was the "starter gun" now the barrier of entry is on the floor with the CL-40.

can their be a feature to apply all for the charms on weapons cause going through them all for each weapon takes quite a bit
Im high gold and canât get out because I keep getting teametes that are new to the game, how are they gold?
Would be great to get some more Outfit slots
Pizza slicer knife skin for the light, pizza shover skin for the sledge hammer, and a pizza delivery outfit for advanced medium players. A pizza box skin for the Heavy health ball.
make it so u can click dagger also give back goo backstabs
theres an option in the settings to change the cashout music already
I had lots of fun in Season 5, Season 6 didnt catch me. But Season 7 is rocking it!
The theme with the battle between multico and cns makes the universe come more to life, the new map is gorgeous, the new gadgets are a lot of fun, and there is more chaos then ever before.
All in all good job. 
Oh my god thank you
Edit:
Where???? i just looked
Edit 2
Iâm ngl just delete the fucking cl40
FIX THE SPAWNS !!!!!!! We lost multiple games due to third parties intervening while were engaged with another team ! Every match played tonight was third party central from start to finish, meanwhile a whole other team is getting a free box and cash out while 3 teams fight for one box !! Not to mention once we wiped a team for the box they somehow spawn ahead of us or near our destination cutting us off from planting the box which makes no sense. What's the point of continuously fighting to wipe out a team only for them to spawn near us while in route to a cash out only for them to get the drop on us and take the box. What's the reward ? Also sometimes you can't even hear an entire team running near you as if the sound is non existent.
We also had a game where we were wiped and spectated one of our opponents. While spectating one of our opponents, he traveled to another building across from the box and aimed at a specific area. Not even 5 seconds later we spawned where he was aiming and were immediately under fire
nerf cl-40 -> rooftop pikes in all matches / modes. just buff other useless weapons
Dear EMBARK TEAM
Dear EMBARK TEAM I have one thing to say about your patchotes we real the last patchotes are right against Mele Weapons properly shit I see no one wants the weapons that the weapons are generated as Z. Dagger or Hammer and Sword (except Appoh) But they do it anyway they only lose your players because that annoys. That's why I ask you to BUFF the weapons again especially hammer and sword in the next UPDATE thank you
Make your achievements easier đđ
I saw this on YouTube and thought if the winch claw had a skin This is what one of them would look like.
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxu_gPCa4OsegGGlW9GCxvcvb_0IC6094R?si=orBQSdAogL89io0d
Hate to be that guy but cl-40 is ruining power shift near entirely by itself alone doesnât matter how much defense you have, aps turrets are essentially near useless when players can simply spam cl-40 rounds continuously if you wanna make it somewhat fair I think decreasing the firerate would help. Problem is itâs every match, canât play even one without at least one cl-40 spammer. On average Iâd say I see 2-3 per match, not fun at all to play against.
nerf light, fast, op guns, aim assits,no recoil guns?
I would like a 7 inch action figure of one of The Finals cosmetic sets.
Think of all the accessories!
random infuser adjustment ideas:
- first shot takes teammate down to 1 or 2 bar then you have to build them back up with each shot, resets if you try to trickle it in
- it transfers hp from the light to your teammate, light can die (this still would not stop invincible cashout steals though unless you ratio it properly)
- movement speed boost
- speeds up ability cooldowns
Has anyone said anything about the CL40? I feel like its a little strong
Sounds like you either use only melee or shotguns when you say stuff like that
nah everybody finds it balanced
đ Please give me a vanishing bomb skin
It's just a fucking circle rn it's so damn boring
ability to track badge progress such as light medium heavy wins
Sometimes the scope on xp54 glitches out after respawning it's really put you in a disadvantage
Because melee has damage it must deal, it was set that way from when it was made, and it stayed quiet without any problems since beta. After many seasons have passed, you say youâre going to nerf it? That just means you messed up the patch.
Do you know why this situation even happened? Because all you ever do is nerf things. Thatâs exactly how you get nonsense like this.
Nerfs are not the only way to balance a game. Buffs are a perfectly valid option too.
Damage nerfs need to stop. Start buffing things instead.
please, stop with the nonsense about nerfing damage for the sake of Light. That doesnât help only Light. It affects every class and ends up making weapons useless.
If you canât kill a Light, you definitely wonât be killing Medium and Heavy. Any supposed benefit for Light is always outweighed by what Medium and Heavy gain.
Melee weapons need to be strong at close range. Just like melee can never compete against guns at long range, it only makes sense that melee should win up close. Thatâs the basic logic.
About Double Barrel, you nerfed it, then reverted. Because Light has low HP, so high DPS is justified. Double Barrel is only viable up close, and it needs to 2-tap Heavy. That balance was correct. so reverted.
The same goes for Sword. Itâs the same mistake as with Double Barrel. Sword was built around close-range and Lightâs low health.it required specific damage combinations for each classes.
Light should die to lunge + quick melee,
Medium to 2 lunges or lunge + quick melee + left click,
Heavy to double (lunge + quick melee) or 2 lunges + left click.
That was balanced. Swordâs lunge must deal 140 dmg.
Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/
Stop lying and start keeping your promises.
can we have a setting for audio so we can play season 1 or any other season ending match song? i loved the old season 1 last 15 seconds song. was amazing
Gotta love getting matched with players who treat this game like a job when you just got home from workđ Only to have teammates who literally just started playing that same day.
the finals actually has really good matchmaking.
yes but I do feel as if it gets worse toward the ends of seasons since less people are playing.
Chat, can we discuss the monstrosity that is the db dash light?
fking ass game literally i got bronze and silver teammate in ranked i had 31k edit lost 1.5k rs and both teammate were random
Embark you know that if you have no ideas about what to add to the game then itâs ok to just not add anything and focus more on fixing things right?
Iâm only asking because there is no chance in life that the new gadgets were playtested and you guys found these balanced and fair. The light gadget literally outheals almost all damage taken making the target being able to tank 400+ points of damage without the health bar moving. I can literally shoot almost 2 fcar mags into someone and still lose the fight which is astonishingly terrible design.
With this logic letâs give heavy and medium a better dash and light and medium a better dome shield because why not
The recent patches that adjusted stuff (sword, sledge) were great additions in the right direction. CL40 should follow it's so badly designed rn and overused. Also the heal meta might not have been the best idea, the healing gadgets should be nerfed a bit.
Otherwise the new map is amazing and the game feels great, aside from the server issues that happen here and there but I'm sure there's no point in talking about those.
All in all, good direction lately, just needs a few more pinches
Hello. Yall should do the adult swim trend. Or donâtâŚup to you.
NERF THE LOCKBOLT IT HAS TOO MUCH HEALTH
charge and slam is still broken, is this a known bug?
Lower the Emerald tier requirements so they don't take as long to acquire, and get rid of the sticker only emerald tier. What a slap to the face to only get a sticker
weapon bans, but only in high-ranked like Platinum or above, or Diamond or above. you can ban 3 weapons, 1 per class before the match starts. no gadget bans, no specialization bans, only weapons
Remove the 5 second delay when trying to leave a game. There should be no reason why closing the game completely and reopening it is faster than leaving the game
Rip melee
color match the fucking "mythic" weapon sights. If yall want to pull this shit and say "these weapon skins have higher effort put into it" do a bit more to show that
100% agree, they have several weapons for light/med with sights themed and none for heavy (shak/lewis etc), but they cost the same!
The H+ Infuser and Healing Emitter also heavily dilute the clearly defined specialisations of the classes (ie. What they should be good at). Medium is described as specialising in "healing and support", Light as "hit and run... ...evasion and stealth", and Heavy "fortification and demolition" if memory serves.
These roles are clearly defined when you look at the classes. Yet for some reason the recent gadgets muddy these clearly defined boundaries. Don't get me wrong, you can play one class in the style of another. Mediums can use both movement devices and demat to create a movement play of the class, akin to light. Light can use sonar, grapple and gateway to create a kind of scout to support.
Yet these do not do EXACTLY what another class is meant to. Light's form of support is in scouting and locating enemies and cash boxes. Medium's is in the healing capabilities it provides. Heavy's is in the defences it can provide and the chaotic demolition it can create.
Each class has their own distinct role, even if you want to play a slightly more transgressive build. Yet this change has opened the door for such things as you rightly suggested, something which I firmly believe would change The Finals for the worse. There would be no point in running anything other than heavy if all the classes had the exact same sorts of stuff. So why is this trend starting now, Embark? Frankly the game was fine without all the gadgets added this season, one is just a worse demat and the other two completely dilute medium's role and have created, in combination with the incessant nerf culture, a very powerful meta.
These gadgets weren't even needed in the first place. They add nothing new to the game aside from frustration from the players, not because people don't know how to deal with them, but because dealing with them is simply far too difficult for many.
I implore you, if you actually read this channel at all, to reconsider these new gadgets and what they bring to the game.
Ayo why do certain items like explosive mine/gateway take a bajillion years to level up but others are way too easy like pad/goo? Feels inconsistent
buff more the light class. Give defib to lights and increase their HPs to 350 at least
And keep matching Gold with ruby players, players with 2k kills which dont miss a single shot and random cheaters.
Dont implement death cam so everybody can freely cheat if they have money.
Give a link with no recoil scripts on account creation.
I actually agree with this heavily, I would be more warm to the idea of Lights or Heavies having a gadget/spec that allows them to heal themselves but if everybody's a different kind of healer it kinda muddies the waters a bit for me
Yes please let ARN 1 shot heavies too
New Deagles animation pack is so FIRE\
Stupid idea, but it would be cool to see new badges, like we got for the halloween event. Could of had those with Easter or even heavy hitters
Oh yea this is really annoying
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WORLD TOUR OVERHAUL
This was previewed a while back and Iâm hoping it comes to fruition, Iâd love a party mode for a game like The Finals, something to really mix it up and add a unique twist to the already existing gameplay. Most people live for Cashout, but I really enjoy the other modes like Bank-It (rip), Powershift, TDM, and dare I say⌠Terminal Attack. (Which mightâve done better if they didnât guillotine the existing ranked and force everyone to play it for a whole season rather than making it a secondary ranked.)
My biggest gripe is the fact that the two ârankedâ modes are objectively the same, both are Cashout.
One is more restricted meanwhile the other allows in-game events, weapon swaps, and no loss in rank. I was kind of disappointed when I saw WT was literally just Cashout 2.0 rather than a series of events comprised of various game modes spanning the worldwide locations we have.\
I mean arenât WT and ranked essentially the same thing? It feels like with the two being the front runner modes, excluding quickplay, there should be a bigger difference between the two. I don't have much experience with the two considering I typically only play WT for circuits and contracts, ranked just to get perspective on what weapons are frequently used there. You can switch your loadout upon death as long as it's in reserves too (not your spec or class tho). Theres also no "penalty" for losing you don't lose points unlike in ranked.
Ranked is more oriented around competitive gameplay and strategy, while WT is centered around exciting and unique modes that don't fixate on Cashout, might even see Bank-It make an appearance
l'd even be open to the weeks/tour stops to be different modes so people that don't enjoy certain modes can lock in and grind out when their favorite modes come through for the week, but the people that enjoy most modes can play regardless of what's in rotation.
It'll give people the opportunity to see the modes they like come through without it being completely random.
With how serious some people take the game, I know some would be up in arms having their game put on the line by merging teams but it's all apart of what makes the experience unique. It's not always about you, it's not always about how well you play, win as a team, lose as a team. The Finals is a virtual gameshow and there are times when contestants in gameshows lose due to the actions of others. You don't lose rank in WT anyway, so I really feel there's no harm in losing!
I really think it'd be a healthy change of pace given that the two modes are practically identical.
It's the fact that they're the only modes with good ranked rewards and you can pretty much copy and paste what you do in one to gain the rewards of the other, especially stacked.
The Meta Bandits and the Comp Crusaders would riot if WT were to change, but I feel like it'd be a healthy change for the overall experience of the game. Competitive players and casual players opinions should both be taken into account, we're all here to enjoy ourselves!
Needless to say, I feel like World Tour couldâve/shouldâve been a mode consisting of a multitude of game modes, like a party (mosh pit) mode that caters to old and new players alike by not fixating on one particular game mode. The Finals is a virtual gameshow and should definitely have more variety to shake things up for the viewers at home.
TL;DR: World Tour and Ranked are both objectively just Cashout at heart, and I feel like a fiesta/party mode wouldâve made for a better World Tour than what we got. A party mode would give newer players a chance to get a chance to get a feel for other modes and see what the game has to offer aside from QP, older players would get to opportunity to improve their game play on modes outside of the traditional experiences.
get the cl40 outta here, all i see is triple cl40 lmao
Make your achievements easier đ
buff the cl40 to cl60 double damage, endless ammo
I don't see the problem. PIKE and revolver are two differents types of weapons.
We got RPG / CL40 / KS23 doing the same dmg (100) and no one compare them.
XP54 and M11 are both SMG
Dual wielded machine pistols on the light.
Nerf cl40, maybe increase direct hit damage, but splash damage is way too forgiving
please revert sword
Do you even know what you mean by âincreased usageâ? It means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed.Itâs not like it just became OP and people started using it.
Stop fxxking nerf. Youâre patching the game straight into the ground.
The only useful thing about the Sledge nerf is that it finally helped 'most people with basic human reasoning' realize how absurd the Sword damage nerf was.
Anyone who has tried using the Hammer after this patch knows it's completely trash now.
And that's exactly what happened to the Sword.
Iâve been saying this the whole time. Nerfing melee damage is the same as saying âdonât use it.â
Sword and hammer are melee weapon. It requires some form of high dmg output in order to compete with other weapons in close range.
I just want to clarify, I am not saying any of the weapons needs nerf. Others do what they are intended to do.
I just want MELEE weapon and underperforming weapon to actually be USABLE.
Fix the damage. Im tired of weapons getting nerfed simply because people dislike it(cause skill issue).
Yours literlly said,"weâre going to continue to monitor the Sword and explore some alternative changes that might allow us to nudge the lunge damage back up".And yet, thereâs been zero follow-up. No balancing, no communication, nothing.
So the sword gets ignored for an entire season, and now you're targeting the sledge hammer instead?
You must stop listening to nerf parrots.Thereâs no end to the nerf parrotsâ whining. When something they wanted nerfed without any real balance reason(dislike cause skill issue) gets nerfed, they just move on to whine about the next thing.
Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/
Stop lying and start keeping your promises.
fcar skin with silencer=đ°đ°đ°
Nerf cl40
thats actually the best take ive seen in a while, bro has a point
Make Lewis Great Again! đşđ¸ đŞ
Huge L this season from Embark. Healing meta not interesting
I still donât have that dual blade dlc
Canât wait to get it
Day 4 of asking embark to add recon senses back
please fix mm algorithm i'm level 74 and emrald 3 in WT and when i play i get players level 6 and 7
Either nerf cl40 or buff other weapons. It's like Embark want to kill this game
Subject: Suggestion for New Ice-Based Items in THE FINALS
Dear Embark Studios team,
Iâm a passionate player of THE FINALS and I appreciate the unique gameplay and destructible environments youâve created.
I want to suggest adding three new items to enrich tactical gameplay, centered around a new elemental theme: Ice. Currently, the game has fire and gas effects, but ice mechanics could introduce fresh strategic options.
Hereâs a brief overview:
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Knockback Grenade:
A grenade that does no damage but pushes enemies away. Useful for disrupting enemy positions and controlling objectives. -
Cryo Spray Weapon:
A weapon that sprays cold mist, slowing enemies gradually and dealing light damage over time. Longer range than fire spray but weaker damage, ideal for crowd control. -
Cryo Storm Mine:
A deployable device that creates a freezing field. Enemies inside are slowed and then frozen for a short duration, excellent for area denial and defense.
These items could fit into existing classes and add variety without overpowering the gameplay. Ice effects would bring new tactical depth and encourage diverse playstyles.
Thank you for considering this suggestion. Iâm excited to see how THE FINALS evolves.
LOWER THE TIME TO KILL
buff every gunâs damage
9 minute matchmaking on power shift mid summer lol
/ have you ever thought that maybe people just donât wanna play this game
you know people are at school, work, outside riding the bike right?
Also LMAO at that TTK suggestion.. literal skill issue
NERF CL40
Make the heavy a movement option. Give him a grab and throw move for teamates allowing good teams to not need to pack a gateway or jump pad. It can work like the group taunts in tf2 where theres an initiater who stands there and a teamates who accepts and then the initiater aims and throws the other player. Hopefully not off the edge of the map though đ
Does Embark have any long-term plans to address the still active cheats and trainers that appear to be pretty openly distributed online?
first time since open beta I have like 5 second screen freezes, it accors randomly. big L for me. and voicechat doesnt work most of the time
revert the sword nerf
Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch
Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130
KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120
Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and increase the movement speed when blocking
R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 Ă 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130 or just increase the fire rate to 160 RPM
Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of all melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge and it can also parry the primary attacks and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55, increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit
AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose
ARN-220: decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s
Data Reshaper: increase the charges from 2 to 3 and decrease the cooldown from 26s to 20s
please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
Hopefully someone at Embark sees this, these emojis will highlight the message so you can see them đĽ:đ¤ đ¤Żđľ:â˝ď¸:grinning:đđđđŤ
Pls fix the animation bugs where equipped animations wont play
Do NOT nerf CL40
FR
Can you add an universal chat (so my duo can roast the enemies when we beat them when our teammate leaves as has happened 6 times in 10 matches of world tour)
Add proximity chat with all the teams
So you want to spread meaningless negativity? Why? This is a bad idea, embark.
nurf pike, 93r, cl40 buff sword, xp-54
BUFF MELEE & non-hitscan weapons!
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OR ELSE
Also, Nerf CL-40âs damage radius, while also increasing its direct hit damage, to make it more punishing for those with more skill. If not, itâs fine rn and people donât know how to jump(easy counter) strafe, use movement/defensive(dome shield, goo) our just out-DPS the fucking cl-40.
anyone else's progress items still showing as locked even when you know you have them unlocked
Please add more clothing in the official store. Give us pants. Give us underwear. Give us socks. Give us pajamas. Maybe strike a deal with Nike or Adidas to make Ospuze-themed shoes.
I'm not allowed to have Logitech G hub open, but hacking is okay?
NERF CL40
I have lately experienced this quite often too. Not 5 seconds long, more like about 2-3 secs. This never happened to me until season 7 actually
People have been suggesting cryo on Reddit but everyone is afraid of being grounded/stopped In a movement shooter. Stun gun was annoying as it was. I think a freeze barrel and grenade would be dope but it needs to be not annoying and counterable.
I think medium should get an air canister spec to knock back enemies and projectiles
NERF CL-40
Update after S7 :
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General feedback
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I bought the Ultimate BP. To support you guys, really. But to be honest, from my POV, the price is to much high and should be able to buy IG not by bundle. 20⏠will be fairer price if you can regain it in the BP. I bought it this time. Not sure I will do it every seasons.
Netcode is pathetic and lag compensation is TOO MUCH STRONG. With a really good connexion, I'm still dying behind cover after a Dash. It just make me want to stop your game.
Cheaters are spreading and matchmaking is worst this season
New season, but still MMH / HHM META
I would LOVE to see your data on Light class & how weak & unbalanced they are
đ˛ For the game đ˛
- In pratice game, add friendly fire option
- Improve your matchmaking in World Tour. No more Solo VS tri-stack
- Add "steps" in reload animation so when you climb on something during a reload, it's not completely reset.
- Add a report option " Sabotage " in the report section IG when people leave or AFK on purpose.
- Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
- Random charm list for weapons/gadgets. EDIT : Can we just choose our random skin and not all our skins ?
- We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
- Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
- Add the possibility to look at the banner of friends & recent players.
- **Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match. Like "only M and Dual Blade", "only Light and SR84", "only marksman", "No heal, Light only and grenade only". You can imagine all you want and put it in private match for streamer & their community to make the game more fun **
**âď¸ For balance âď¸ **
- **META Full heal. What's the point when, as Light, you get 2shot by all the META weapons ? Buff Light weapons so they can get a kill before getting Thanosed. **The effort to play Light correctly is too damn high compared to Medium & Heavy class. There is no fun at all playing Light. Meanwhile Medium spam with CL40 and Heavy are unkillable with the new heal.
- REVERT CL40 BUFF. It's destroying the fun in your game
- Revert the nerf of the XP54. What's the point of putting XP at 16dmg when M11 (an other SMG) do the same, faster & with more bullets ?
- Rework Nulifier (again) : When you get it by the "Taser" your recoil is increased but you can still move as you want and you take 5 dmg/sec by the electricity during 3 sec. Can hit multiple target when you shoot.
- You shouldn't be able to right clic sword + dash. This double dash is unfair
- Nerf the CB01-Repeater damage or increase the recoil
- Rework Vanish Bomb. Make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light and it can be use for your teammates too !
- Reduce the radius of the reflect of the Dual Blade or let us shoot in the feet or something else to let us counter DB when you got an AR like Riot Shield.
- Nerf the range of the KS23. You can put 100 dmg at 20m.
- Nerf PIKE to 48 dmg instead of 50 dmg.
- Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive safier !
- Rework Sonar: Scan 5 times instead of 3 but if you don't move it can't scan you
- Winch & lockbolt shouldn't do damage. It's already strong enough
- Rework the ARN into a real AR ? Slower RPM but much more DMG. Something like the FCAR or AK for example.
** đ Servers problems đ **
- Improve your netcode / tickrate or I don't know what ! Dying behind cover it's one of the most frustrating thing in The Finals
- Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls, doors and farer than it should be
- Sword, dagger, DualS or all other melee weapon feels unfair when you think you're out of range and die anyway.
I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.
We could make it a slowing area, and if you stay in there for too long you become frozen for a little bit, but being shot breaks the ice and does less damage to you. This way itâs more of a utility option and not a stun gun option
People getting kills on the platform or killing people on the platform in PS should be rewarded +100 objective score.
Rewards people for assisting in capturing the platform by eliminating the enemy team, or those who prevent that to happen by holding the platform and killing those pushing into it.
Pls nerf the grenade pump for mids
There's really no good reason not to show which teams are wiped on the scoreboard in ranked. It just helps teams plan better which make the game less RNG
just another reminder that your matchmaking in world tour sucks. how do i get paired with trolls (which i have no problem with, its world tour in the end) but get put against meta playing sweat lords like 7 games in a row? explain that to me... so fucking frustrating.
Double barrel shotgun imo shouldn't be able to 2 shot a heavy when people are complaining to the point where the cerberus gets nerfed until it can barely 3 shot another medium. This "balance" is a joke and so are the light mains defending it with "muh dps class"
hy embark, can we get more colors fro the basic tank tops? Maybe Red or Blue
i hate low ranks (bronze and silver) literally unplayable. Mates always suck. There is no way out of them. everyone in my team play light and get 0 kills. You need friends to get out of bronze and silver (I dont have friends). Embark put me in gold or plat pls @gloomy umbra yea
đ¨ Yap alert đ¨
Please donât hire this guy, he has nothing but trash takes
Have a nice day đ our RFAM team (from Czechia) has an improvement. because there are more of us than we would need to solve the system of private matches for the WORLD TOUR or RANKED. Because there are more and more of us and we are trying to let people know about The Finals through Twitch, YouTube, FragMovie. We accept and with open arms we accept and teach new players as it will be this Saturday when we will play a costume match but we are limited by the number and the "mode" of the game. And that is why we would need the WT or Ranked mod. when there can be much more of us, the losers would not be kicked out but they could be in the spotlight and watch the players playing so they could learn something. What do you think about that?
Agree
dude, double barrel is only 2 shot below 3 meters. While light is 2 shot up to midrange: KS23, MGL, (Sledge) - don't talk about balance when you've no clue.
Btw Servers are so bad its never a 2 shot and when you miss - you're dead as Light. Stupid RPG makes you 1 shot: SKILL ISSUE
@eager swift smart guy can't count to 2...
light main defending one shotting the heavy class is balanced
Is it me or the ranked become unplayable past seasons I was 17k now stuck around 8-9k ??
Do you even know what you mean by âincreased usageâ? It means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed.Itâs not like it just became OP and people started using it.
Stop nerf. Youâre patching the game straight into the ground.
If you make other weapons viable, their usage will naturally go up while the usage of the previously dominant ones goes down. Thatâs what youâre supposed to do.
If all you do is nerf things, the game just turns into a water gun fight.
The only useful thing about the Sledge nerf is that it finally helped 'most people with basic human reasoning' realize how absurd the Sword damage nerf was.
Anyone who has tried using the Hammer after this patch knows it's completely trash now.
And that's exactly what happened to the Sword.
Nerfing melee dmg is the same as saying âdonât use it.â
Sword and hammer are melee weapon. It requires some form of high dmg output in order to compete with other weapons in close range.
I just want to clarify, I'm not saying any of the weapons needs nerf.
I just want MELEE weapon and underperforming weapon to actually be USABLE.
Fix the damage. Im tired of weapons getting nerfed simply because people dislike it(cause skill issue).
Yours literlly said,"weâre going to continue to monitor the Sword and explore some alternative changes that might allow us to nudge the lunge damage back up".And yet, thereâs been zero follow-up. No balancing, no communication, nothing.
So the sword gets ignored for an entire season, and now you're targeting the sledge hammer instead?
You must stop listening to nerf parrots.Thereâs no end to the nerf parrotsâ whining. When something they wanted nerfed without any real balance reason(dislike cause skill issue) gets nerfed, they just move on to whine about the next thing.
Melee nerfs so far go completely against what you yourselves said in this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/
Stop lying and start keeping your promises.
ALL TOP PLAYER DO TEAMING IN THIS GAME ! 6 v 6 v 3 ! FREE BOOST TO RUBY ! ITS EZ TO GET SAME MATCH !
Fix ranked it been in a horrible spot and been like this since s3
make sword do 50 per lunge, it's so broken
buff the cl40 and make it cl60, make it have zero self damage and 200 damage and also increase splash by 75%
also make model only shoot 2 pellets that do 15 damage each
I just realized how contradicting it is to have Terminal Attack instead of Bank It in the main Quickplay gamemodes with the two new healing gadgets.
You're essentially adding two new gadgets that will never be beneficial to a gamemode AT ALL since Healing Beam and Defibrillator are replaced.
#bringbackbankit
Stasis ruined destiny 2 pvp. Please no ice
Nerf cl40
Can we make it so that custom games donât require more than one player to start or add something like that cause I kinda just want to go and destroy buildings on the map without ruining anyoneâs game.
Day 29 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)
It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes
It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex
Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it
(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)
Its not normal that I get 1 legacy BP coin for playing 1 round but I only get 2 for winning an ENTIRE WT tournament.. it makes no sense. Going to finals should be 3 tokens and maybe 4 for win.
I really wish I had more motivation to play this season but itâs too dogshit to play further than your dailyâs. The server lag is way too much, makes me so angry. Melee (my favorite play style) is completely butchered and not viable. I remember you embark saying you want every play style to be viable. So now, you embark is just fucking lying. And itâs upsetting. I SHOULDNT HAVE TO BE THE ONE PUNISHED FOR AN ENEMY GETTING WITHIN MELEE. Why is it that lights get the most attention?
Embark, you went from my favorite devs to devs that are selling out. I went from so so SOOOOO much hype for S7 and Arc Raiders but you delivered so goddamn poorly that itâs stain my view of Embark as a whole. P.s Fuck your pay wall.
FIRE WHOEVER WAS IN CHARGE OF BALANCING.
Season 7 erased my rose tinted glasses view of the game and now I feel next to zero excitement or enjoyment in playing this -Now- regular every day, run of the mill FPS GAME and itâs strictly an FPS right now bc again EMBARK KILLED MELEE
Youâre better than this embark. I REALLY hope you fix your game. before dedicated fans like myself move on. With all the terrible things happening in life The Finals was one of the few things I thoroughly enjoyed and now I look at it like itâs a chore to play
Iâm genuinely so upset S7 has brought zero happiness to me
Day 10 of asking embark to bring back bank it
Give sword some love!! 𼰠đĄď¸đ
Bring back the 140 damage lunge!
bank it
rework winch claw so close range heavy weapons can be strong at close range without being annoying w winch
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Weapons have different destruction rates. Indicate it in the equipment menu.
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Some skins don't have the new description you added this season. Like the Projector's cut skin for lewis shows video frames on its magazine when you shoot, creating an animation. Also, idk which one but one of the gold akm skins makes gold sound every time you reload. And, just let us visually see these features IN the game. Don't make us dream or watch it on youtube. That's not how it works. Please make every bit of unique features of the skins clear.
Akimbo body damage need a hard buff and severely buff pyro granade atleast make it a big area like a contact granade then the fire gets smaller and smaller
Medium noob tube nerf when????
can ranked be less punishing for placing last or more rewarding for winning? you can lose 2000 points in 10 minutes but to get 500 you need to win the entire tournament if you are seeding weirdly
is the matchmaking like broken or something? im pretty much only getting lvl 70+ teammates and enemies. im lvl 13
same but i expect to be put in with the actual player base and not lvl 15s
Make it so you drop the cash box after a certain time
Just had a guy hold the game hostage for 5minutes in QUICK CASH because he wouldn't drop the cash box and ran around the map as light
Make your achievements easier đ
Rest weary scroller.
No bad takes.
No awful ideas for ârebalanceâ.
No crying out for nerfs on a weapon because I canât play around it.
Just a moment of reprieve.
do you know how the indicator for tp flashes when you're close to 70m? would be cool if there would be some kind of indicator on the tp itself too
I miss Bank it
Nerf the range on the sawn off đđ
I remember when ragebait wasn't so obvious
it does like 25 damage beyond 10 feet what
kill this stupid heal meta and bury it forever
When can we stop lying to ourselves and realise skill based matchmaking would only do good for the game
yea first come first serve matchmaking is so fun when i get ruby players every 3rd game đ
Dear EMBARK TEAM
Dear EMBARK TEAM I have one thing to say about your patchotes we real the last patchotes are right against Mele Weapons properly shit I see no one wants the weapons that the weapons are generated as Z. Dagger or Hammer and Sword (except Appoh) But they do it anyway they only lose your players because that annoys. That's why I ask you to BUFF the weapons again especially hammer and sword in the next UPDATE thank you
nerf that piece of shit light shotgun
nerf sword buff hammer, and get rid of evasive dash plus m11
please make a new player lobby its impossible to learn when playing against lvl 50+
trying the game again after a long break. trying to keep my expectations low but is this thing ever gonna load or we still in beta?
I would love to see the destruction carry over to everything in the game. why are elevators able to survive a nuclear war. let us destroy them cause the healing meta has made it very hard to get in one without dying
i agree, imo winch should probably just be reworked
sledge likely would not have needed a nerf if winch didnt exist/didnt do what it currently does
"players (...) feel they can never compete against it at close range"
thing is, a majority of the counterplay happened before they got that far, shooting them on the approach to get them low before they can damage you back, or just running away when you know you cant take that fight right now
since its addition, winch has been mostly sidestepping this risk (on more than just sledge)
reworking winch would allow players to apply these counterplay strategies again
while pushing the (hopefully rebuffed) sledge back towards a higher risk:higher reward playstyle, rather than the current mediocre, but still pretty abuse-able version when combined with winch
as for winch itself, i think it should turned into strong utility somehow (that cant interact with players directly)
giving it more range to grab statues from far away for safer revives
stronger pull force on objects like the cashout/building debris
maybe straight up ripping out parts of a wall for frequent small scale destruction for creating flank routes/replacing slots that would otherwise be used on destruction gadgets, making more varied loadouts viable
i think this could make it feel a lot healthier for the game on the receiving end, while allowing for more interesting strategies for the user
HONEST FEEDBACK! (After having played this game a lot the past 4 seasons)
Right now after getting revived, you're stuck in a really bad spot because equipment is on cooldown, but you donât get any invisibility frames, so you're completely exposed. Itâs super common to get defib-camped and die before you can even throw goo, go invisible, or drop a turret. Thereâs no way to defend yourself or reposition, and it feels unfair, especially when equipment cooldowns were added specifically to balance the revive system. A simple 1 or more second i-frame right after respawn would fix a lot. Just to have enough time to get out of the immediate combat. If you take offensive action like shooting, the i-frame could immediately cancel. Itâs what most other shooters already do to prevent spawn camping, and this would give players a fighting chance without making revives overpowered. A visual effect could also show when someone has i-frames so itâs clear to everyone. A ton of people on Reddit and Steam have already called this out, and it seems like a missed part of the balance pass.
Also, it still feels like a huge miss that thereâs no dedicated Duos mode. A lot of us play with just one other person and donât always have a third. Running with a random isnât fun when solo players don't play as a team, and it makes people not want to queue at all. Something like 2v2v2v2 or a smaller Duos version of Quick Cash would go a long way for keeping players engaged who donât want to solo or fill. Appreciate the updates and gear tweaks recently! Theyâve helped a lot but these two issues are areas with amazing potential.
(it's been brought to my attention that they are already in the game, but the issue still stands that I've watched many people get killed immediately after a revive or defib and it seems like a longer period would help, considering gear is unavailable for use)
goo mines?
you already do get iframes lol
ITEMS IDEAS FOR HEAVY
1.- DOOR TRAP: Maybe add some kind of chain/string trap lo lock the doors closed and when opened explodes dealing maybe the damage of an explosive mine and then push enemies with great knock back. I think it can be really fun and trollish. Also people maybe will think twice when trying to slam doors open everywhere
2.- DEMOLITION BELT/STRING: You would be able to set a certain amount of meters of this string on floors/walls, and when activated it would make a huge breach, that way you could make distractions when engaging enemies as they wont have to watch only a tiny spot. Also you could destroy small buildings with it easily.
3.- TURRET: Maybe add some kind of turret like medium? Maybe weaker but tankier, like it having 2 barricade plates in attached to its cannon, so to destroy the turret you'd have to destroy the plates first, that way you could fortify a place and add defenses to it, not only mines
4.- MOBILITY: As heavy has little mobility, maybe add some kind of engine/rocket powered item that helps you climb faster zip lines, some kind of tool that boosts you through it, that way you add a little mobility to it without actually making it place items to move, so it will still have to use environment mobility or teammates mobility items
can rework the spear and dual blade just to be a swing melee and remove the 3 type of attack bullshit from it.