👂┇game-feedback

[lament vessel]

I spawn into world tour with only two teammates. I click to leave and it says "Since a teammate has already left you won't be penalized". I leave, click abandon and I GET A PENALTY FOR 10 MINUTES?!

Can you fix this nonsense

[shadow nebula]

Reduce the damage of the model. I’ve had 2 problems sense beta with the game. The model and the taser. You fixed one so let’s fix the other already.

[lost talon]

m11 damage drop off ends at 15m and model drop off starts at 15m, the dude balancing the game looks at a smg and a shotgun and says ALL GOOD 😂

[cold bolt]

dear embark

I will always leave a match in-progress that you put me in

thanks

[thorn kelp]

Some buffs I would like to see for Gadgets are

• Pyro Grenade (Increased radius)

• Pyro Mine (Increased radius)

• Data Reshaper (Fix Barrel rotation and allow the Dome Shield to be reshaped outside of the shield. Also allow objects to be reshaped through enemy Mesh Shields)

• Dome Shield (Increased health. No more than 50 at least)

• Glitch Grenade (Allow for cancelation of a Defib revive when the explosion hits their build-up hologram)

• Glitchtrap (Allow to work like a Glitch Grenade with the added AOE effect. Immediately aftee the triggered explosion, the trap dissappears)

• Thermal Vision (Team color'd vision please)

• APS Turret (Bigger radius would be beneficial)

[quaint forge]

CAN I GRT FUCKING TEAMMATES PLEASE WTF IS THIS MATCHMAKING

[molten trail]

Its 2024 and people still dont know how to use lfg channels 😛

[boreal meteor]

Can we make Heavies GL a little viable please. having to bounce twice and the first bounce going cieling height before dropping is just silly. If you are smart you can try a wall shot , but there isnt walls everywhere in the map. If you back up so the bounces dont go as high the grenades lose velocity and accuracy dramatically and by the time they explode ( second bounce). Can we normalize not building a game around the top 2% of gamers and build it for the casual gamer as it should be? thanks.

[patent wind]

lol 700 is nothing. if you got last place i think thats a valid number. dawg if i lose i lose like 1200

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[lost talon]

Reduce model range to a normal shotgun and turn stun into a button that you can hold to zap and if you let it go it stops zapping, pyro direct hit damage should be 20 not 10, server capacity should be last that that you cut costs on, nothing else matters more

[hoary vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gating-a-haircut-he-do-be-vibin-doe-cat-hair-cat-kamehameha-haircut-gif-19069897

[quaint forge]

What if I want to solo q? That’s a problem? How about you mind your own business and respect other people’s feedback

[deep sierra]

Buff fcar damage

[daring remnant]

Regarding the "how was your last match?" feedback sheet:

It is cool and all, but I have an idea on how to improve it. See on the left it has the positives and the right the negatives that are somehow opposite to the positive, e.g. "good team coordination" vs "bad team coordination." One of the positives you can list is "close game" and its opposing negative is "crushed by opponents." But what if it wasn't a close game, and I wasn't crushed by opponents? What if instead the opponents were crushed by us. Newbies at level <30 going up against level >60 grinders is hardly a fair fight. Please add an option where I can select "opponents crushed by me."

[high solar]

Buff xp

[raw blaze]

if I got last I would have lost 1300

[molten trail]

Then if u want to solo q dont expect good teammates all the time? 😂 ?

[latent niche]

All I have to say after playing this game long term is that it needed another year in development.
Not being able to sprint as a random bug that has persisted since launch as well as the countless other things that make this game feel sloppy like slow/overburdened servers that lag during events that put more stress on them is just crazy.

[steel belfry]

[deep sierra]

Buff fcar.

[quick coyote]

Show how many people are waiting in queue. Ranked isn't even popping on OCE/Asia anymore 😢

[rough hinge]

Atleast they increased it from 3 days to 7 days Braindead company honestly

[quaint forge]

Then why do you think I’m asking them to fix the sbmm? Cuz I keep getting paired up with players that get boosted and then I’m up against three stacks

[drifting thistle]

Maintain player count + sales from cheater too. Win win for embark and cheater

[lost talon]

this game is being sabotaged by whoever they recently hired for optimization, because changes are being made its not like nothing is changing but kyoto keeps running worse and worse with every update and now its going into other maps as well. And from the outside of that maybe servers are also running worse with a lower player count but thats more up and down than the concrete client performance. People will start quiet quitting and you'll be left wondering what happened. Atleast revert the "optimization changes" done since the alien update and leave the actual game alone until you have the manpower and time to properly test these kind of changes. And cut cost everywhere else before touching the server capacity.

[lost talon]

I know what would be a great idea lets make a non slug shotgun the flagship weapon of the game and the support class whose damage dropoff starts after the smg drop off ends, oh people don't like that? lets do it again in the next season and spend resources porting the game to ps4 while the actual game isnt in a good enough state in the first place, oh people don't like kyoto cause of innumerable issues? lets make do that again as well next season. Even the fucking heavies are running the mortal kombat ability and a shotgun, nobody thinks thats cool or wants to watch any tournament with everybody running non slug shotguns. People arent playing the game more cause of the non slug shotguns being goto weapons at all skill ranges, they are playing it cause nobody liked the CS mode

[quaint forge]

Fuck this game, thanks for giving me “good” teammates in rank

[little shell]

Quick Cash is only ever getting the same team names - the Shock and Awe, the Kingfish, and the Steamrollers. Why was this change made? I always get the same puns from Scotty and June because it's always the same team names.

[tribal spoke]

Please buff the dual blades. I suggest removing the 50/50,60/60,70 combo and replacing it with flat 55/55 damage slashes, it fixes the light and heavy breakpoints without touching medium ttk (Which is fine though struggles with Model). And or improve the swing speed by 5-15% to decrease the ttk. A 2-5% momentum buff would be great too so we have a chance of sticking on enemies. This would include sprinting/walking but sliding too

[molten trail]

cry 😛

[hollow stream]

Bring KS damage up to 110 from 100 PLEASE

[woven hawk]

Can we please get a spray button Let's see some more sprayin!

[mild veldt]

There needs to be more advertising in South America. The server population is declining due to the severe lack of players, and playing on different regions with high lag makes an already frustrating game even worse.

Embark, South America is a huge market for games and shooters, especially in Brazil. It’s really sad to see such a great game with so few players.

[thorn kelp]

Base damage should be kept at 100

There should be a headshot multiplyer considering this is a slug shotgun afterall

My take would be between 125 and 148 for headshots, allowing for two headshots or a headshot + quick melee + body shot to kill Mediums

[topaz jasper]

he said he agrees, either or

[lost talon]

team colors on quick cash basically look the same why isnt it using the same diatropic color scheme as other modes? why it different shades of orange

[mortal notch]

the solo que experience is so mind numbingly stupid. teammates leaving and us not being able to leave. bot teammates basically dooming a game. same goes for ranked you can spend 3+ hrs making no progress bc people leave

[pulsar drift]

Guys lets buff medium guns/gadgets when it's literally the most played class in the game with the most effectiveness

All seriousness, I 100% agree with a previous post saying that glitch grenade should be able to cancel a revive if the grenade hits the hologram. It'll add some more utility to light and take away the oppressiveness of having double medium in comp bc of the defib. We can only nerf defib so much, so this glitch grenade buff I think I agree with alot.

[wild verge]

its really balanced to get 1 tapped 320dmg by a dagger. if you shoot back once they teleport 10 miles away

[lost talon]

you're bad at the game

[woven hawk]

yes +1 glitch grenade canceling a defibbed hologram. might start using it then.

impact or shorter fuse like last year would be nice too. stopped using it after timer/range 'buff' which made it take much longer to explode.

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[fading flame]

Fix the connection issues! I have good wifi but people don’t even have to look at me to kill me. Please!

[mild veldt]

Also, buff the gains in other game modes!

The difference in Exp and Fans between Powershift gains and Bank It is quite significant, especially considering that Powershift is a very popular mode among casual players and every match usually is a full 15 minutes struggle.

If you ever plan to reintroduce contracts with a high cash payout, please ensure that Powershift wins contribute towards the cash progress. I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to grind money in this mode.

[thick sorrel]

The Finals Shotguns Leaked Patch Notes 5.0.0

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added
• ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... it still 2 shots Lights at 15m😂
  **Real Fix: 2-Shots Lights and 3-Shots Heavys, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Defibrillated Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not Alan enough.

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Hulk Smash
  Dev Note: We thought it fits better the damage level - usually used after RPG for a free kill.

Dual Blades

• Decreased Blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

[finite stone]

I can't access the official Korean Discord because it's blocked. At that time, I said bad things because I was angry about the cheaters. I'll live a calm life from now on. Please forward it.

[valid night]

add red dot sight for LH1 and Famas plz

[dark niche]

in a match rn and for some reason there is a team that is permanently highlighted for us. idk if this is common or not, or if the devs are working on a fix, but its there

[dense ocean]

day 70 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[torpid quarry]

Spawning system not good

[civic lion]

fcar need buffs

[acoustic comet]

It would be nice to improve observability into what caused a death (e.g. instant replay from the POV of the player credited with the elimination — like the “kill cam” in some other games). This would greatly help players learn in casual modes and might also reduce false positive reports of cheating/exploiting.

[nocturne fern]

add a grenade indicator now!

[thorny lynx]

This game needs a KILL CAM, just highlight the enemy that kills you? Would that be so hard. Just a quick flash like a sonar or tracking dart. Also add grenade indicator... Oh and just OVERHAUL all of the sounds in the entire game. I can track my own team 5 buildings over with my eyes closed, but a enemy heavy can sprint up with Akimbo and you hear nothing until they stick the barrel in your ear

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[wary pumice]

I have a suggestion that for players who use controllers on PCs, an icon UI like this could be added. @@feral osprey

[obsidian ginkgo]

ranked sucks, long queue, ruby teams, cheaters, models and etc

[odd plover]

You idiots, messing around with weekly contracts, try it out for yourselves, how hard it is to deposit a fucking million in cash on the Asian server, and by the way, your anti-cheats don't work at all, and on average every three rounds there will be a clairvoyant/auto-target cheater who can kill everyone else on the head

[delicate dirge]

working as intended embark?

[coral axle]

this game is so fucked...

[hollow basin]

Fix the sound, its soooo bad

remove forced TAA and add other anti-aliasing settings (or none at all), Or at least vastly improve them as other games built in ue5 have done. Right now this game is a blurry laggy mess even with great specs, and its unacceptable for a game that seems to be intended to be competitive

[worn sigil]

Based on your comment about depositing.. Don't forget you can play

• quick cash
• bank it
• World Tour
  As well as ranked.
  Just throw the cash box inside the cashout and run away ez money!

These challenges are supposed to be time consuming as you have a lot of time to complete them before the end of the season!
👍🏽🍿💯😏

[thorny lynx]

this is LITERALLY the perfect example of THE FINALS overall .... and the hit reg

[grizzled flame]

Dagger's strong stab feels really wrong, because you have to wait some time after the charge animation reaches it's final destination to perform it.

[lost talon]

add more levels in career, they can be very small things but it gives players something to keep unlocking away from the battlepass, and kyoto has never been worse

[cerulean flower]

Customization really needs work, especially with more complex pieces
Things on top of your back and chest are so useless on most stuff as you cant even equip them to begin with...

[ionic saddle]

Can yall get your shit together and make the gold textures in the game match? Every single clothing item with gold texture is a different shade that doesn't match.

[thin pagoda]

pls pls pls change the ranked system it sucks and add more creative hair styles: spikey mohawk, dreads etc

[serene perch]

This would be so much better if I just had a bar that showed how long until the stab was ready, same on sword

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 91)

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[faint saddle]

@finite galleon
@jagged cedar

[tired fable]

Hey Embark ! Check my Reshaper buff :

reshape Medium model = Light dagger
reshape Light sword = Heavy MGL32
reshape Heavy flamethrower = Medium Revolver

[daring musk]

in terminal attack characters says cash box instead of decription key in the beggining of rounds

[toxic lagoon]

make revolver hip-firing rate faster but increase overall recoil to reduce incentive to quickscope; i find myself quickscoping quite a lot which makes the revolver feel more like a DMR than a pistol. i think the revolver should excel in close range encounters but be difficult to use over long distances, in its current condition it's quite viable even in long range encounters. by increasing recoil, or even just making recoil recovery animation take longer, you reduce its long range effectiveness while (for the most part) maintaining close range effectiveness. obviously this suggestion could use some additional input as this is only coming from one person, but i do think the revolver should be able to fanfire when hipfiring and it shouldnt be so accurate over long distances.

[mild hatch]

Hi Dev, i think when i use my stun gun against a contestant and my teamate kill him, it will be cool that count as a assit for me a bit like healing beam

[hollow spear]

MORE XP BEFORE SEASON 4 ENDS (pls )

[raw summit]

Fire shouldn't attach to trophies. It's not napalm. Stop treating it like it is.

[long arrow]

bro... use light dashs stop cry about this weap

[jagged cedar]

Trent isn't a light player

[south trench]

FR

[upper citrus]

Yeah it’s only been meta for months why is everyone complaining…

[signal basin]

**Yo Embark, guess who die in the next frame : Collector Edition ! **

Are you gonna do something for your tickrate/netcode or maybe your lag compensation ? Because playing Light it's already a fking pain in the ass but dying in a instant when you shouldn't... it's a new whole level !

On the 2nd one and the three last one, I'm back dashing

[pulsar jay]

im gonna post this here too, i think the way ruby/diamond works right now is a little silly. IMO it should curve around the rubies (top 500) so 501 and the 500 or so following them is d1 and then all the other diamonds follow after, it feels really weird hitting d3 and then just being there already

I see what they were going for with making it a threshold of rank score to reach diamond but I don't think it makes sense for there to only be 1200 true (non ruby) diamond players like it is right now

practically it would play out about the same except instead of slogging around in plat for as long you can be climbing through diamond a bit sooner since you'll be climbing through like 15k or whatever it was of diamond players first (so basically like s2 rank distribution but the old d1 would be ruby)

granted none of this really means anything when ranked doesn't really work and just matches top players against low rated players regularly anyways but at the very least ranked player retention (where they keep grinding ranked instead of going off to farm people in wt) will probably be better when people will feel more incentivized to farm the diamond weapons since they dont need to rank in the top ~2k to get it lol

also we wouldn't have this weird situation where diamond 1 is rarer than ruby

ik some of my descriptions might be a bit off but i hope the general idea of what i'm suggesting comes through

[radiant moat]

god damn that's embarrassing

anyway this channel is incosequential, it's just funny to see things like this, thank you for sharing, skipping next season, have fun yall

[worn sigil]

That's like Apex tho right? The faster you hit masters and are in the top 500, you're automatically Apex Predator rank.. or am I misunderstanding?

[sleek flame]

This makes sense, so it will be ignored

[surreal meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1309667239842152508/image.png?ex=674312ea&is=6741c16a&hm=078d83db3be00c4e655f259c9c255e323e4d67ed04e0dc94ad046417bb773242&
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[rugged hinge]

NICE

[analog breach]

Will fans receive any buffs to increase their earnings? Because even if you do all the missions until the pass ends, you won't be able to finish them. ?

[flat solstice]

It'd be nice to get an Game/Daily XP boost for the last two weeks of the season 🙂

[mild veldt]

It will happen probaly this week, but it will happen!

[marble pollen]

PLEASE give controller players an option to bind “swapping to weapon” and interacting with zip lines/doors to 2 separate inputs. It’s a massive disadvantage having both on the same button if you’re trying to zip and heal or open a door with rpg in your hands etc. very annoying

[rough herald]

can my dash pls go where i want to go pls
why the fuck dose this thing have input delay like why

[fierce valve]

Solo Bank it plsizz

[quick coyote]

Fix the FCAR sight; when moving it two more red dots appear.

Fix the hit registration

Delete or severely lower visual recoil

[long arrow]

😫 more xp / rework the xp requirement pls huh

[cosmic narwhal]

day 21 of asking for a ready up button

[clever hawk]

Light
Cloak
˗ Decloak time: 0s → 0.5s
˗ No weapon fire when cloaked

• Reduce activation cost by 40%

93R

• Reduce recoil
• Reduce hipfire bloom
• Mag: 21 → 24
• Add sight

V9S

• Min dropoff: 10m → 12m
• Max dropoff: 15m → 16m

M11
˗ DMG: 16 → 14

• Min dropoff: 10m → 12m
• Dropoff modifier: 62% → 67%

Stun Gun
˗ Movement penalty ends after 75 DMG dealt
˗ Movement increased to walk speed

Vanish Bomb

• Radius: 3m → 4m

Breach

• Priming delay: 2s → 1.25s
• Recharge: 30s → 25s

Bore

• Recharge: 45s → 35s

Smoke

• Cleanse detection effects

Medium
Turret

• Startup time: 5s → 3s
• Fully refund on pickup
• Increase recall recharge by 50%
• Replace the scan with a fixed cone of vision for consistent detection
  ˗ Add lock-on timer per class
  L: 0.75s
  M: 0.5s
  H: 0.25s

Demat
˗ Recharge: 10s → 13s
˗ Duration: 30s → 20s

FCAR

• Smooth initial recoil

R.357

• Reduce hipfire bloom

1887
˗ DMG: 128 → 116

Defib
˗ Allow destruction of resurrecting body
˗ 10s cooldown upon being resurrected
˗ Remove iframes

Glitch Trap
˗ Attach: 0s → 0.5s

Heavy
Mesh

• Deactivation delay: 4s → 3s
• Deactivation delay when damaged: 8s → 3.5s

Winch

• Max range: 12m → 15.9m
  ˗ Winched player proximity: 1m → 5m

Charge
˗ Max DMG: 130 → 120
˗ Ramp DMG from 70-120 over 1.25s
˗ Subsequent DMG: 50 → 30

M60

• Slow hipfire bloom scaling
• Add bipod mount

KS-23

• Remove dispersion
• Empty reload: 2.2s → 1.4s

Akimbo
˗ Crit DMG: 88 → 70

RPG
˗ DMG: 100 → 60

• Cooldown: 45s → 35s
• Radius: +25%
• Add knockback to epicentre

Grav Cube

• Height: 12m → 14m

C4

• Cooldown: 30s → 20s

Global
Health

• Shorter health regen delay per class
  L: 7s → 6s
  M: 9s → 7s
  H: 10s → 8s

Weapons

• Reduce visual recoil
• Reduce bloom when sliding

Frag
˗ DMG: 150 → 130
˗ Add indicator

Flashbang
˗ Max intensity duration: 3.5s → 2s
˗ Reduce view angle

• Disable max intensity on teammates

Gas
˗ Increase initial immunity by 0.75s

Total
Buffs: 35
Nerfs: 24

[arctic summit]

I cant play on kyoto everytime I do it crashes my game which is lame, on pc

[jagged cedar]

Ew

[keen lily]

excuse me, but WHAT THE FUCK happened here? why am I losing shitload of RP here? what a joke. I thought they dropped a jump pad at first but no, looking at this frame by frame there is nothing like that happening, just random teleport because fuck me

@coral turtle I KNOW HOW IT WORKS, IT'S JUST NOT WHAT HAPPENED ON THIS CLIP, when you check it frame by frame you can see it teleported and not bounced off

[plush fjord]

WHY dont you give a shit, embark.

[surreal meadow]

it was alr nerfed

[coral turtle]

you can try it
the enemy with hacking wall got a jump pad he placed it just above it and he hacked the wall!
then Boom it will fly in the sky 🙂 u can try it

[zinc saffron]

When are they going to put 120hz on consoles? I find it insulting that they are not there yet.

[fervent coral]

I hope yall fix the respawns cause these are horrible

[dusky apex]

server lag plz thnx

[burnt mauve]

agree with server lag too.
and plz make a better optimization for any player.
i felt like losing frames lately,i miss those s1 days with 120+ frames play

[clever hawk]

XP is fine lil bro, hit your shots

[oak kernel]

Can we PLEASE add a "Stand on the platform!" type tooltip/notif so people get reminded to sometimes? Or at least remind that multiple people standing on it makes it go faster. There's too many people that literally never touch the platform

[terse schooner]

.

[patent wind]

why would i stand on the platform im trying to get warmed up

[burnt notch]

Warm up with quick cash or world tour

[neon burrow]

Repeat after me.... WIIIIINNNNN.... POIIINNNTTTTSSSSS

[torpid sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-fish-this-is-bait-gif-11212449

[viral quail]

add anime colabs rn

[keen lily]

nobody cares about power shift, I also play it just to roll everyone before ranked sometimes

[silent fog]

Fix spawns nerf model

[jagged walrus]

Yea I never hop on that shat platform just go in to spit on the noobs and hop in ranked

[proven vale]

Decrease spawn times, fix the spawn points I can't stand spawning across the map every fucking time, add a "Vote to kick" option for when I get stuck with bots, nerf model

[long arrow]

embark... should we stop take a shower for success the 25kills with a headshot over 30meters? wtf ( OMG I M SO KINd ITS 35 METERS NVM

[tall orbit]

First things first. I think Kyoto is fire. Great map. Haters gonna hate. Personally I love hiding in bamboo and off hall closets. Second of all, please for the love of God add one more character loadout option to make it 9. And if we can have an outfit closet to save outfits we design to easily switch it up. Hey, maybe even a random camo / skin option for our guns. Got lots of nice camos. But never get to see them. And finally... Please for the love of God fix the weapon wheel on controller. Don't know why it changed to inverted. But it's been eating my lunch. Other than that, maybe cut down on the grind, cause it has left a bad taste in my mouth, and if it's preyd on more, you're gonna lose your casual audience. We like spending our money on something possible. This just makes those who play and do their dailies every day are still struggling.

[wraith orchid]

HOTTAKE PLS UPVOTE!!!! MAKE THE PORTAL BEING ABLE TO TELEPORT THE CASHOUT IF YOU CAN PUSH IT IN

[quick coyote]

double XP? thanks

[patent wind]

powershift has the most 1v1s without third parties. so... no.

[proven crown]

• In game voice chat just not working at all for me using push to talk. None of the keybinds work so I have to use open mic or nothing

• Light is not strong enough. The TTK is too short in a game that makes more sense having a longer TTK.

• Medium weapons and gadgets are too strong, and light weapons feel weak in comparison. I think M11 could get a recoil buff, and XP could get a range buff.

[jagged vector]

Honestly should get rid of ranked if world tour is the way that it is. It’s an easier ranked that more people play anyway

[mortal ridge]

Hey Embark, I have an issue.

So I've been playing a lot more ranked to try and shoot for Ruby, and I've noticed a few things. First of all, I've grinded to Diamond in season 1 and 2, and Emerald 1 in season 3 and 4. Currently I'm sitting at Plat 2 with 36,392 RS, so I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about about.

1. Third partying is still a HUGE issue in high elo lobbies. Most of the time if there is a Diamond/Ruby team the Plat teams will completely ignore them and fight the other plat teams while the Diamond/Ruby team is not only given a free ride to the next round, they're given every opportunity to fourth party while the other plat teams are constantly third partying each other. A solution to this could be hiding other player's ranks until the end of the round so that the entire lobby isn't scared of one team.

2. The cheating problem is abysmal in high elo lobbies. Most people in Diamond/Ruby are either cheating or getting boosted by other cheaters. Now I'm not talking about the top portion of Ruby, I'm talking about the lower to middle portion, probably around 40k to 50k RS. And no matter how many cheaters I seem to get banned, there always seems to be more. A solution to this would be to IP ban them instead of just banning the accounts. I'm not a game developer, so I have no idea how this would work, but I've seen it done on most other games and platforms, so it definitely is possible. The problem with banning these accounts is that another one can get made within a few minutes, and the cheater can just get back on the game. They don't care about losing their accounts, they care about being able to play at all. If you were to IP ban anyone with cheats detected on their system, it would speed up the process of cleaning out cheaters exponentially, because cheaters would never be allowed back.

Please consider these suggestions, and keep up the good work guys, I love ya

[low plaza]

SH1900 is so inconsistent, The amount of times my crosshair is fully on there body and it does like 56 damage is insane

[fleet socket]

Could the meteor shower achievement be reworked to let either alien event work or just buff the event so I can actually see them? I'm half way to my 150 wins on medium and have only seen 2 meteor event. 1 was when I filled in so I didn't have the text about it on my screen, the other was during OT and it only rained on the cashout across map not ours.

[spark timber]

CL-40 used to me my fav weapon , now it sucks. That's my feedback. I'm pigeon holed into weapons I hate using because of all the changes made to the CL-40 in NOT A GOOD way. Tired of nerfs

[plush fjord]

Thanks.
I swear FCAR back then was soooo sweet. I know it was a bit powerful back then, but I think it was nerfed WAY too hard.

And one of the other reasons was that in Season 1 some guns like the xp54 were obviously a bit trash in comparison to guns like FCAR, AKM, Lewis and M60, and light guns were a bit worse by default. So that started all the backlash.

Plus, now the FCAR doesnt have much of a seperate identity, when talking abt it and akm.

[midnight aurora]

give grenades one charge but with a faster cooldown its a spam fest

[sharp estuary]

give grenades one charge but with a faster cooldown it's a spam fest

[brittle obsidian]

Revert the 65->62% maximum falloff nerf that the XP54 received in patch 4.5.0. This was such a bizarre change to a gun that already lost to the M11 at max range.

[wraith orchid]

guys 40 meter for a sniper is hilarious i get outranged by EVERYTHING. and i feel like there is a new wave of cheaters in the game i swear i reported every day multiple times for a week now and got the thank you popup EVERY FCKN DAY OF THE WEEK tf is this shit the cheaters arent even good xd

[surreal meadow]

I hit que ranked
never join a game
que for WT
"game found"
3 Min left on the clock in ranked

10min suspension from ranekd & customs
THANKS EMBARkl

[wispy sand]

If someone leaves a match they were just in, do not add them back. If you can't add that code then its because you know the game is dead and you need the refill slots because not enough players to keep it alive. Add flag "Was in this game server before do not add back." Or dead game. Thanks.

[mighty cedar]

Remove light. Would drastically improve the game. And remove fucking skill-based damage profiles

[plush fjord]

Cloaked players shouldnt have the ability to aim their guns and shoot while invis. It gives them hella time to adjust their crosshair placements and all, while the opponent is in mid-battle trying to take out some other guy (or even just there defending and focusing on an objective)

[clever hawk]

Light
Cloak
˗ Decloak time: 0s → 0.5s
˗ No weapon fire when cloaked

• Reduce activation cost by 40%

93R

• Reduce recoil
• Reduce hipfire bloom
• Mag: 21 → 24
• Add sight

V9S

• Min dropoff: 10m → 12m
• Max dropoff: 15m → 16m

M11
˗ DMG: 16 → 14

• Min dropoff: 10m → 12m
• Dropoff modifier: 62% → 67%

Stun Gun
˗ Movement penalty ends after 75 DMG dealt
˗ Movement increased to walk speed

Vanish Bomb

• Radius: 3m → 4m

Breach

• Priming delay: 2s → 1.25s
• Recharge: 30s → 25s

Bore

• Recharge: 45s → 35s

Smoke

• Cleanse detection effects

Medium
Turret

• Startup time: 5s → 3s
• Fully refund on pickup
• Increase recall recharge by 50%
• Replace the scan with a fixed cone of vision for consistent detection
  ˗ Add lock-on timer per class
  L: 0.75s
  M: 0.5s
  H: 0.25s

Demat
˗ Recharge: 10s → 13s
˗ Duration: 30s → 20s

FCAR

• Smooth initial recoil

R.357

• Reduce hipfire bloom

1887
˗ DMG: 128 → 116

Defib
˗ Allow destruction of resurrecting body
˗ 10s cooldown upon being resurrected
˗ Remove iframes

Glitch Trap
˗ Attach: 0s → 0.5s

Heavy
Mesh

• Deactivation delay: 4s → 3s
• Deactivation delay when damaged: 8s → 3.5s

Winch

• Max range: 12m → 15.9m
  ˗ Winched player proximity: 1m → 5m

Charge
˗ Max DMG: 130 → 120
˗ Ramp DMG from 70-120 over 1.25s
˗ Subsequent DMG: 50 → 30

M60

• Slow hipfire bloom scaling
• Add bipod mount

KS-23

• Remove dispersion
• Empty reload: 2.2s → 1.4s

Akimbo
˗ Crit DMG: 88 → 70

RPG
˗ DMG: 100 → 60

• Cooldown: 45s → 35s
• Radius: +25%
• Add knockback to epicentre

Grav Cube

• Height: 12m → 14m

C4

• Cooldown: 30s → 20s

Global
Health

• Shorter health regen delay per class
  L: 7s → 6s
  M: 9s → 7s
  H: 10s → 8s

Weapons

• Reduce visual recoil
• Reduce bloom when sliding

Frag
˗ DMG: 150 → 130
˗ Add indicator

Flashbang
˗ Max intensity duration: 3.5s → 2s
˗ Reduce view angle

• Disable max intensity on teammates

Gas
˗ Increase initial immunity by 0.75s

Total
Buffs: 35
Nerfs: 24

[pale kettle]

this game will fkn die soon if you dont sort out this cheating wave... havent had a single game in almost a week without a hacker.... And worldtour is flooded with fkn teamers that are grinding it together....... fun playing 3 vs 6.......

[dark umbra]

Love this

[brittle obsidian]

90 trillion year long queue times

[daring musk]

other team in the final round spawned directly under the cashout

[calm quarry]

I go to the end of page 12 and then quit this game, the bp grind is awful

[dusk blaze]

this is great

[boreal meteor]

stop cucking the heavy at the casual level. dont build a game around the top 1% of gamers and then claim "the game is balanced". The heavy literally has 1 build/loadout that is viable at the casual level and one build/loadout that the top 1% uses. if we can only use one loadout to be viable/competitive that is a HUGE issue. why do our GL projectiles do 66dmg to enemy and 166dmg to us when struck by same projectile? helen keller made more sense then the logic of this class.

[slow goblet]

Honestly, halve of the ranked games I get put into end up making me lose my mind and halve of my controller since I can barely find any good teammates.

[mild veldt]

Please, Embark, never bring back the "Win 30 matches" contract.

It requires so much teamplay and coordination that asking for WINS turns into a horrible experience, especially as a solo player.

Some people might say, "Just play for fun," but the enemy team is often full-stacked, sweating their way through the game, ready to destroy the entire lobby.

It’s NOT a balanced requirement at all.

Stick to the traditional grinding contracts (even if 1 million money was boring, at least you could complete it with sheer persistence), but winning is a whole different beast.

[high frost]

your ranked match making sucks balls

stop matching pre mades vs non pre mades and stop giving me IDIOTS!!!1

After 250 hours and buying a few skins, I'm uninstalling this ass game. Thanks for robbing me of my money for the gundam model.

[neon burrow]

Lowkey we need 1 more reserve slots moving forward

[jagged vector]

Don’t make world tour ranked, it takes away from actual ranked

[wraith orchid]

climbing system is awful, jumping too xd. if i jump off a edge, the jump happens, but mid air i fall in topspeed as if i didnt jump at all. I cant tell you guys how often the buggy movement killed mein this game. trying to climb something and falling down in the climb animation MULTIPLE TIMES. SOMETIMES MY CHA TRIES TO CLIMB FKN STAIRS. yes, stairs. i cant no more.

[jagged cedar]

If you're hitting your shots then you're better off on literally any other weapon

[trim gyro]

Please don’t let orange team be on sandstorm maps

[atomic briar]

Auto Aim cheters https://ibb.co/N28vTXG

[clever hawk]

#👂┇game-feedback message Heavy stuff that’s viable at the casual level:

Specialisations:

• Charge n Slam
• Winch Claw

Weapons:

• SA12
• Lewis
• Akimbos
• M60
• Sledge
• Flamethrower
• Spear

Gadgets:

• RPG
• Dome
• Barricade
• Grav Cube
• Goo Nade
• Frag
• Flashbang
• Pyro Nade
• Gas Nade
• Explosive Mine
• Pyro Mine

@jagged cedar except when you account for ease of use, range, recoil, travel time. TTK is also competitive. Damage is fine and any buffs should be tweaks around that

[verbal breach]

Funny changes that should be implemented

Dual Blades:

-Damage Combo to 110, 120, 80
| Allows for kill combos with a quick melee

-Deflected Bullets can crit (uses crit mod from the deflected weapon)
| raises skill ceiling

-blocks 33% of explosion damage
| we need something against grenade launchers, ok

Model 1887:

-Damage down to 110
| the biggest problem with the model is 2 shotting mediums and 3 shotting heavies. That fixes that while allowing for quick-melee combos.

-Revert the Spread nerf
| the damage at medium range wasn't the underlying problem and also gets fixed by the change right above this one. Having a shotgun be decent at medium range is also kinda funny and unique

93R:

-Damage down to 22
| don't get mad yet

-shots/burst to 5
| differentiates it from Famas, making it more unique and more in line with other light weapons damage output

-mag size to 25
| dividable by 5 while keeping the damage/mag similar

[bold moth]

I would not mind a nerf to damage on the lh1 if it's bloom was calmed down

[proven crown]

The amount of crashes at the moment is outrageous. RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 7800 x3d

[jagged vector]

Remove stun gun

[north coral]

Until today, it was working well for me. I tried half an hour ago to play, and for me, it's unplayable. I have server lag every 5 seconds.
(Xbox Series X - Hungary) 😦

[valid bay]

How about custom 3v3 maps for the final round of tournaments? The current ones are far too big for 6 players

[valid cradle]

The amount of lag I just experience on NA servers is actually insane. Every action I would perform was an entire .5 seconds delay. Literally unplayable. WTF?!?!

[uneven dagger]

Literally unplayable mf’s when my game is literally playable

[valid canyon]

so remove the only class that takes skill to use?

[supple dawn]

Regarding inviting people to a lobby. Sometimes the person you are inviting does not get any invite for an unknown reason. This has been a bug since launch iirc.

Also would be cool if you could notify a person that's already in a match that you have invited them because sometimes you're waiting for someone to finish and if they don't know you're waiting for them they might start another game straight away.

[keen lily]

everyone talking to the wall here lmao

[atomic briar]

My game just went off and I was back on steam acc, when I managed to get it runnig again it was lagging and I ended up killed bc of it

[remote jewel]

PP-19 Bizon/PPHS-41/other high capacity SMG for heavy would be cool

[craggy osprey]

You guys need to fix the matchmaking. How does gold get teamed up with a non ranked? last season I was plat and still getting teammates that were unranked! Crazy

[pseudo leaf]

Why are you guys are crying about spawns? "Oh no the other team spawned close to the point we were going." is better then "we waited to put in the cash so they will spawn in the other side of the map." Personally I hate to run 200+ meters to the point or wait to put the cash in because of the game didn't figure out the spawns well. If you are complaining about other things than that I want to hear and I know some of the spawn points (some spawns in skyway stadium and soul hospital) has problems that defenders has huge advantage. @silent fog What is your solution or problem with spawns? You can hear spawns around 50 meters if you have a ear.

[burnt sedge]

Is anyone else experiencing serious consistent latency on Xbox or just in general it doesn’t feel too much like lag because it’s too constant and unchanging

[silent fog]

There is no way you're defending these awful spawns.
@pseudo leaf is this your first season playing cash out?

[tired escarp]

fact

[wild verge]

lets get a light nerf going rq medium and heavy are pointless in comparison

[low plaza]

Cashout progress needs to stop when being stolen.

[cold bolt]

you still spawn 300m away sometimes, is the funny part lololololol

• wipe team on vault, same team spawns on cashout you're going to
• teams spawn in front of you in general
• specific hotspot close proximity spawns like monaco forests, seoul hospital back alley, skyways stadium construction by houses
• lopsided spawning, i.e. teams 1-3 spawn repeatedly on same cashout while 4 gets theirs free and possibly even 4th party's to get both cashouts
• overall the flow of matches is worse and third partying is at an all time high despite the changes attempting to address that
• spawn manipulation being fixed with box deposit was only a thing in final round, even if I'm wrong and it was a thing during knockout rounds too, no one waited to do that anyways bc of other teams possibly pulling up. It's a good change, but also mutually exclusive from what ppl are talking about when they complain about spawns this season, so not sure why you mentioned it
• coining during your ongoing cashout defense will more than likely spawn you far away meanwhile enemy team coining during their offense are more likely to spawn on the cashout area
• close proximity cashout spawns, e.g. one building between each other / jank vault vs cashout spawns in general, e.g. a "Y-shaped" spawn where the top of the Y are the two vaults and the bottom line are the two cashouts
• like I said at the top, classic cross-map spawn near end of match still happens especially monaco and especially if that last cashout is yours

you are frankly blind / low macro game sense if you don't find any issue with current spawns

I've adapted to this stupidity and will likely end t500 again but I'm not having fun, especially with the infinite stale model meta.

Plug meta also ironically ups third partying bc if teams 1 & 2 are still fighting over their box by the time team 3 respawns, team 3 will hop on over to them lololol

[proven crown]

Getting suspended still for leaving when I'm the only player on my team?

[rapid stream]

Gut model please

thanks

[iron bough]

Ok, man... just play powershift and have fun, it will be done eventually.

[shadow nebula]

Bow has hit registration issues quite a lot recently. Post a video before of it. Seems it happens after revives most often.

[north coral]

Me too

[long arrow]

stop make your actor staff in my games embark pls , thx you so much or delete your game

[near ice]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/HZaskpkQIW

[subtle gazelle]

Why are cashouts spawning like a building away from each other i thought they wanted to stop 3rd party not make it worse

[vale acorn]

Bro is literally asking for them to remove one third of the game experience

[grizzled mauve]

Hi, so i was in a ranked game where a player had a Model 1887, what he did was jump up and down, spam melee and just shoot. I lost 1136 points because of this where i dropped from 33.000 to 31.000, wich makes this unplayable. I play the FCAR that deals quite damage on the medium range whilst doing 24 per round on closer range. But what i don't get is that half of this player base thinks that a 175 per round gun is meta, wich is in hands of 6 in 3 players, making this gun unplayable.

[torpid sky]

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[echo hinge]

I love the Finals Can there please be a setting to change the Opacity of objectives? I love the Finals

[atomic briar]

Give us more respawns in wt pleaseeeeeeeeee

[plush grotto]

200 per win, -900 for a loss. so fucking anoying. need to stop showing ranks or something. every single lobby is 3v6-3v9 now.

[vestal prairie]

It's just strange to me how 3 wins =1k and 1 loss = near 1k

[wraith salmon]

fsr2 to fsr3.1.2 update embark are we still getting it this year?

[dreamy gull]

im so sick of this bullshit model meta. holy shit! worst fucxking thing in the game rn !!!

[versed cloud]

Game isn't balanced for shit. Triple healing beam defib medium is all I see in ranked play. Game is fucked at this point.

[magic cosmos]

games good, just need to fix the weapon balances

[zealous mural]

fix the AKM and other guns sights. it completely ruins everything

[vestal prairie]

What rank/mode are you experiencing the annoyance in?

[small mesa]

hello

[polar grotto]

Buffs that should be incurred

Sword, primary swing 1 more damage (can kill lights in 2 swings)
Riot shield, shield should be better at blocking
Dual blades, more dmg, faster attacks, better deflect
Spear, more range, secondary attack should be cancellable when not holding down secondary (shouldn't have to do the glitch) should damage 360
Flamethrower, should have a VERY slight increase in spread (larger area of effect/larger radius)
M32, if it hits a player before it bounces it explodes otherwise explodes after 1 bounce
R .357, more accurate hip-firing
Dome shield, slightly more hp and having a effect that removes invis from enemys who enter
Explosive mine, either more damage or change the count back to 2
Frag grenade, more arena damage
Zipline, can be placed further away making longer ziplines or using secondary click can choose where it begins and ends

[jagged cedar]

travel time? this game is hitscan lol. every other light weapon has better ttk or trade offs that warrant worse ttk. there is just no point in using it

[gilded dagger]

A battle pass change I'd recommend is:
Make each level require the same XP so players can judge accurately if they're gonna finish it or not. None of this increasing XP bs and then hiding the requirements until a player reaches the level. It's kinda devious and anti-consumer tbh.

[wild verge]

lets save this game by nerfing light that'll bring back some day 1ers

[rapid stream]

no

[upper citrus]

“stop nerfing heavy”

complains about the weapon that has only been buffed and is slated for a full rework

Ok

[clever hawk]

Meaning one of the things it doesn’t have to contend with whilst some of its competitors do is travel time. Your claim about TTK is just false and those that exceed it have harsher trade offs or requirements with the exception of the M11. It’s good.

[junior igloo]

dude just get better at sword u can literally one shot them with lunge and quick melee smh THERES A REASON its exactly 74 damage the devs DONT want it to two shot a light because thats too easy and mindless mountain goat tactics
riot shield should either just be removed from the game or completely reworked
dual blades should have some sort of momentum mechanic to reach enemies with
MGL32 is designed specifcially for bounce shots and angles and has a harder mechanic that when learned and mastered is very effective (see truce)
R 357 has practically hitscan hip firing idk what u mean 🗿
dome shield has been op ever since game launch and even after nerfs (trust me i know as ive used it since open beta)
explosive mine should not be able to one tap mediums
How would you add a secondary click to a zipline? it would take like 5 seconds to deploy it, then whats the point

@shy ferry as someone who just queued with lycommit and his three stack in a WT, boy are you lucky why tf are you complaining. If ur opponents are so ass just queue a diamond/ruby ranked lobby

[shy ferry]

Can the finals please sort out their algorithm please, i keep getting put in games with ridiculously awful people, and im not the only one either, all my friends have the same problem. MATCH US WITH BETTER PEOPLE.

[edgy urchin]

u right, sword and dagger are basically 1 tap if u have the slightest amount of skill
lights balancing is a joke and im surprised the devs haven't reworked or done anything to prevent lights killing anyone instantly
and of course all the light mains gonna reply saying its a skill issue not being able to shoot a light thats teleporting around and spam clicking till they hit u

[dreamy gull]

let us customize our weapon skins during the match or before in the waiting lobby thing please. Also let us customize our menu music with everything that has been released please.

[woven briar]

Mouse and keyboard support on consoles? Please and thank you.

[glad ore]

• MGL is confirmed getting reworked
• Revolver's hipfire is indeed hitscan, but it's not at all accurate. It has roughly the same hipfire CoF as the ARs, but with only 6 shots on low-tick shit servers. You do not want to be hipfiring with the revolver.

[torpid sky]

🪤

[night glen]

Does anyone know how much time we will have to get the 1 MILLION in cash challenge? That challenge sucks BTW........

[shy parcel]

xp is buttcheeks bruh

[rapid stream]

no

[vale jolt]

hit my shots and not kill a heavy past 10 meters?

[frank holly]

buff the FCAR though

[wide bough]

It is very frustrating to play this game solo. I do not feel like playing this anymore like it is exhausting as well as people are too good. Nerf knife or soemthing IDK, seems like 16-17 yo people playing this game all day and I can never win a single game? always against super pro? it is impossible. GG

[edgy urchin]

"light main" role, say less

@stuck sentinel i have played ranked, i was plat 3 in season 1 and plat 1 in season 2 whats ur point?
@jagged cedar light main role say less.

[stuck sentinel]

Have you ever played ranked?

[jagged cedar]

travel time exists on 5 weapons in this game lol. Everything else is hitscan. The only upside I'd consider xp to have is ease of use. Xp has worse ttk than the M11, Lh1, and V9S, which puts it at the bottom of the light semis/autos (93r isnt a real weapon). It has worse damage at range than M11, LH1, and similar range to V9S. The weapon competes only with 93r which is a little sad tbh

@edgy urchin both dagger and sword have a longer ttk than it takes for light to get killed

[hoary vessel]

disposable pistol as a gadget for light that does 20 damage

[eager shard]

ranked makes no sense, If I carry my team and they throw I dont get any points. just a waste of time for me if my team mates are trolling. if I leave I get suspended
*we should get some points if positive kd and some objective points

[eternal sierra]

Il y a des français qui joue ici ? On est deux on cherche quelqu’un on est star en herbe 25 et 14

[sudden spire]

There are some scenarios where 4th place has no chance at a last second comeback. This sucks, and causes my teammates to leave

[spring marlin]

Flintlock gun for light or meduim

[wraith orchid]

so i have over 1000 hours of only sniper in this game and had no problem winning ranked/wt matches at all. but i need to beg for a change since the 40 meter nerf is so awful that the weapon is just bad at this point. every enemy with a shooting weapon is taking a 1v1 above 40 meter range because the only thing they need to do is strafing a little bit and i have no chance to hit them in any way. for the people out there that dont know what 40 meters are. you know the yellow building on kyoto where a zipline goes between the building and a jumppad leading to the forest area. YES, if i stand on the roof of the yellow building, I CANT HIT SHOTS ON AN ENEMY AT THE JUMPPAD. dear developers, pls go in a private match on kyoto, go on top on the roof, and tell me that this isnt complete bullshit. at the hanging structures event, no matter the map, i should have the opportunity to hit peaking enemies as an attacker, but i cant, and the enemies can laser me with hitscan weapons at really any range. then there is the thing with visual recoil of the sniper while scoping when you get shot.
ANY WEAPON IN THIS GAME DOESNT GET USELESS IF YOU GET SHOT BUT THE SNIPER DOES. all this and then the fact that a fckn m shotgun has such an insane range and ANY OTHER GUN outranges the sniper just makes me wanna cry so bad. 😭😭😭
the reason you changed the sniper was understandable but you havent just fixed a problem but changed it so extreme that you could think you don’t want this weapon to be in the game at all. literally the only weapon where hitscan is an essential😭😭😭😭

[versed cloud]

All mines should be one shotable with any gun. I don't know why they have HP pools.

[clever hawk]

@vale jolt falloff starts at 20m. You need to hit your shots.

@jagged cedar it exists on one of its direct competitors which is why I mentioned it. M11 is an outlier and XP is better at range. LH1 & V9S are far more punishing on misses, LH1 requires crits for better TTK & V9S is only a little better, owing to its greater difficulty. 93R isn’t nearly as bad as claimed either, just needs QOL.

[lyric whale]

sword can get very annoying with the lunge but is still able to be countered if u think before engaging. dagger is just straight up not good and doesnt need a nerf or a buff for that matter. Its in a spot where it is a pain in the ass to use bc back stab requires u to hold instead of just clicking and the left click does abt 4 damage. but if it gets any sort of buff itll be the most aids thing to fight. If the dagger isnt able to 1 shot it shouldnt be in the game bc if u need 2 hits its impossible to use. Play with the dagger for more that 5 min in a lobby with people who know how to left click and u will find out that it is not good. before u say "oh light main clearly" i mained medium season 1 and heavy through open beta till now. I play light for fun in quick cash bc they r fun to use when u just want kils and dont care abt winning

@wild verge u forgot to read the part where i said use it for more than 5 min bc u clearly haven't

[rapid stream]

GRRR these filthy light mains and their op guns

[brittle obsidian]

💀

[stuck sentinel]

Then you should know how many players play Light in ranked 💀
( Breakout tournament https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/906732015179661313/1308785668960423967/Image_426518088529375.jpg?ex=6745cca3&is=67447b23&hm=60886099de3842c729c046e44b68833c17bca00c1e3c57b700736998017a99f6& )

@.notmatt.#0000
Just play Medium + Model
Then Light is no longer a problem in qq and Bank it xd

[wild verge]

LOL 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 daggers not good cuz it can 1 shot every class in the game 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[edgy urchin]

you know there are other gamemodes than ranked right? and just because u only play ranked and most people do doesnt mean the entire game should be based off it, take into consideration power shift, quick cash, and bank it all are littered with meta playing lights who abuse the ridiculously high dps and movement speed. Play the game (not just ranked)

@glad ore from a BaLaNcE StAnD pOInT those modes are literally half the game and have a large portion of the games players just because ranked is the sweatiest doesnt mean the entire game should be based around it
@jagged cedar u literally have drippy trump as ur pfp and ur calling me a troll f tier rage bait

[glad ore]

From a balance standpoint those modes don't matter. If you make changes to the core game because something is broken in Bank It, you end up disrupting balance in the actual core modes ala APS power shift nerf back in s2.
Cashout being the premiere mode indeed means you balance around it.

[upper citrus]

you sound like chatgpt trying to describe the trade off between guns. have you actually ever played light bruh

[vale jolt]

m11 and 93r have more range than xp..

[jagged cedar]

"93r isnt nearly as bad as claimed either"
yeah you're trolling GG

@edgy urchin I have the light main role so I can view the light channel. I play mostly medium in ranked and flex in other gamemodes

[candid badge]

lights annoying pls do sum about dagger

[near parcel]

pls do sum about people complaining about dagger

[quick coyote]

controller aim assist is too weak, either buff it or add cross play between consoles without PC

[torpid quarry]

Don't you love when people who have been playing for only 2 months ask to nerf things that have already been nerfed into the ground

[grand adder]

Can we have removable suppressor for the Mac 11? I wanna hear it roar. please 🙏

[clever hawk]

Holy shit I know the playerbase of this game is ass compared to comp shooters but you guys really are just ass aren’t you 😂 Idk why I’m wasting my time trying to discuss like this is high elo of something respectable

93R naturally favours crits and the TTK disparity isn’t so strong if you’re capable of hitting them. With some QOL/minor ROF it’ll be fine.

@vale jolt M11 doesn’t and 93R has slightly further dropoff caps but has a multiplier in the fourties not the sixties

@upper citrus the guy that thought the 2 week old gun was at bigger fault than the 10 month long perma run gadget has once again arrived. The tradeoff with XP is that it’s exceptionally easy to use by all metrics & useful at most ranges. It’s not my nor Embark’s fault you’re ass.

[onyx tiger]

just got put into a challenging game against 3 rubies playing triple medium model and they cashed out 81000, there was not a darn thing we could do about it. i matchmake against more rubies than i do diamonds. where are all the diamonds? ive never been more frustrated, that was so stupid

[vale jolt]

you can kill a heavy at like 25 meters with one m11 mag and one 93r mag but not one xp mag. its awful

[upper citrus]

every time i look in this chat its just you getting fucking dunked on by good players. the zombiez have a note coming your way

@undone swallow LOL

[magic cosmos]

whats the biggest nerf in season 4?

[brittle obsidian]

thank you the zombies

[rapid stream]

^

nerf model 1887

[jagged cedar]

tbf I'd probably think xp and 93r are pretty good too if I played in brick elo where everything works

[eager shard]

If I'm carrying my team every match but they dont do anything at all how does one rank up

[vivid jewel]

finally someone notices

[modern wedge]

Maybe we could get something (exactly lmao) like the battlepass return shop. Basically, previous battlepass items randomly appear in a separate shop, for an increase in price. Theres about five per week cycle and the selection is random.

Also, this channel should have threads.

[untold willow]

• Revert XP dmg nerf and revert range change (2 Dmg buff, range nerf) (XP should be a nice middle ground between LH1 and M11 IMO, rn its just garbage)
• slight either dmg or range buff to Fcar and Lewis
• Dmg buff to M60
• Mesh revert or replacing CD with Activation cost (Just get rid of the cooldown it makes mesh feel like garbage, now we have cancer charge and winch meta which no one likes. Mesh has hard counter with Glitch so if you want it to be less prevelant in HHM for example just buff glitches to 7s)
• Glitch grenade buff to 7s
• Glitch grenade glitches Defib holo so they are glitched when spawning in after animation completes (Kills MMM and defib chains)

[clever hawk]

This isn’t even true & total mag dmg isn’t all that matters ie zoom/recoil

@upper citrus “My boyfriends all have the exact same opinions as me, we win 🤓” Your definition of good players stinks of Destiny players bragging about trials carries. Kiddy pool gaming.

@undone swallow Your bf has you on a leash + you have an ego over an arcade game. Pick a struggle.

@jagged cedar ELO barely exists even at Ruby so this makes no sense. I’m sorry you can’t function without crutches

@onyx tiger you hit ruby relatively early into diamond. Embark prioritise getting players into matches over pure competition, it’s easiest to simply accept this unfortunately

[valid canyon]

fix fckn ranked matchmaking

[jagged cedar]

at no point have I used xp as a main weapon 💀

[upper citrus]

all the good players who disagree with you also disagree with each other on a ton of topics. but yet all come together to agree that almost everything you say is a terrible take. 🧟 🗣️

[iron bough]

Time to nerf medium

[swift heron]

Can we please get an indicator for rank progression for World tour leaderboard and not only cash shown?

[soft rain]

This game is so fucking boring nowadays. im plat and i play against a team with 3 top 10 ranked players in the world and i get -500 if i dont get to the second round against 3 top 10 in the WORLD. and a couple matches later im playing against only bronze and i spend an hour of my life to win the tournament and get only +200 points. its like fighting mike tyson and if i lose i need to give him 1 thousand dollars or fighting a newborn baby and if i win i get 0,01 cents. im sick of either playing against the best team in the world or playing against a full lobby of people who is 2K elo. just let have a setting that lets me play against my rank.

[dry kiln]

Then why you here in a feedback channel of a game you hate?

[midnight aurora]

remove the limited map pool from world tour im tired of playing kyoto

i understand thats the theme of world tour but holy shit does it get boring fast

[tough merlin]

One day they'll actually nerf triple medium. so tired of playing against it/having to play it lol

[onyx tiger]

lol turns out i was playing against number 2 3 and 8 in the world so i cant even be mad anymore lol

[sleek yoke]

light#2062 cheater boosting fabdabs#7919 and bb_hotpop#2355

[clever hawk]

Again, your definition of good player is kiddy pool gaming. There are about 5 regular players that could hang in something like Val. You’re not invited bud.

@onyx tiger either way it will happen again. I’ve had friends in silver face diamond stacks lol. The game isn’t designed to be competitive.

@valid canyon see above

[valid canyon]

na im so fckn done with ranked like u guys are fckn it up so hard im so tired of losing rank because of cheaters or ass teammates are going againt a higher elo team with sliver and gold teammates in diamond and me getting 400 elo for winning like wtf is that bro and triple med auto winning bec its so op nerf meduim and nerf model if u want it to be a casual game then dont have ranked bec ur just ruining ranked with cheaters and super op weapons that u cant counter i hope u guys can pull it tgether next szn or else ur player base is hgonna drop way more than it alr has and thats saying smth

[upper citrus]

i think we would all love to see your gameplay

[hexed grove]

Ngl, I'm tired of this shit. Delete medium, straight up.

[raw blaze]

yo 😭

[steady star]

how are you going to count a placement round when we have a leaver

[dusk scarab]

Everything about this game is so much worse.. good game at first but everyone I know deleted. Hope the devs realize they need to fertilize this earth and remove their oxygen drain waste of matter sacks off this planet

[wet garnet]

I love the steal the spotlight bag so much

[dry kiln]

No moderation in this channel anymore i can see

[dry plover]

Embark Please Rework Revolver

[unborn jetty]

mmm aint even that good if you know how to counter it

[fading cobalt]

Charge could do with having its turn speed hard locked so you can't spin 180-degrees, but also give it a sound cue when activated.

I vote for train whistle. It feels odd that you just sorta silently bash someone with the voices turned off.

[clever hawk]

Imagine being able to hit crits with a minimal recoil (deterministic too) SMG and a burst weapon and you’re there. And we’ve played.

@fading cobalt good luck with that, weapons and foot steps barely get functional audio

[upper citrus]

i think we would all love to see your gameplay

[somber spruce]

The Goo Gun for heavy Is very underutilized and I really think this weapon could be more effective if it gotten a rework in a way that could make it more powerful in defense. THIS IS ALSO A ROUGH SKETCH IDEA. So take it with a grain of salt.

Goo Gun Rework

When using shooting the Goo Gun, the goo will have a shade of color to them representing your team or an enemy teams color depending on who shot it.
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With this in mind, the goo that is shot from a Goo Gun will have 10% - 15% more health for more stability in defending.
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When shooting at a player with movement, via Charge & Slam, Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, etc. It will not stop the specializations ability, but instead slows them down drastically.

Nerfs and Buffs

+ When the goo is shot from the Goo Gun it will have a shade of color to it representing the team who shot it, making it easier to tell who its from and knowing that the goo will have more health.
+ When shooting goo at a player with movement specialization like Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, and Charge & Slam, it will slow them down drastically.
+ Increase in goo health from 300 to 345 (15% increase) 
+ Increase in burn time from 12s to 16s (35% Increase)
+ Increase in lasting duration of 90s to 115s (27.5% Increase)

- When shooting goo at a player with movement specialization like Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, and Charge & Slam, it will not stop the animation and it's effects.
- Decrease in length size when connected from 15 to 12 (20% Decrease)
- Magazine size from 20 to 15 (25% Decrease)
- Increase in reload time from 2s to 2.75s (37.5% Increase)
- Decrease in firing rate from 0.3s to 0.6s (100% Decrease)
- Decrease in bullet speed by 20%

[placid sorrel]

please add a collumn just showing damage not combat. So tired of teammates saying I didn't do anything because they have more kills when in fact I had more actual player damage than them.

[tiny geyser]

Since we did get a rerelease of the Alien cosmetic set (for a limited time) and a Guitar Sledgehammer variant with a different skin, I'd like to see a possible limited time rerelease or variant of the Roulette Lewis gun skin. I had bought the season one BP and life had other plans, so I had no opportunity to complete it, only getting to before the Lewis gun skin.

[dark niche]

every time i open this channel i see this exact image
we get it man you dont like kyoto 😭

[clever hawk]

“We” and it’s just one fruity guy that can’t track heads with a bot-friendly weapon 💀 this place is too funny

[dry plover]

Embark Rework Revolver please

[upper citrus]

i think we would all love to see your gameplay

[scarlet yarrow]

What to do about ranked player using strike packs on xbox, he's currently 116th for ranked and is blatantly toggling ingame

[grizzled mauve]

This guy's name and shirt shows that he is a akm or a famas player (correct me if im wrong)

[main copper]

I think we should have these:

1. Heavy sniper that can be put in position and breaks walls with one shot
2. quick-mag SMG for light
3. Drumgun for either M or H
   (I'm just day dreaming, maybe they will work some day)

[ripe herald]

I’m getting issues with ranked and world I keep on getting booted out and asked to reconnect even tho it says the server has expired or is not responding

[stone hazel]

im actually gonna stop playing because of low gravity dude this is so unfun it's insane im not even kidding when i say i want dead go boom back instead of this
i would rather see a gadget multiplier event where gadgets are stronger like higher jumpads and bigger fire nades or something

[tribal spoke]

Please buff the dual blades. I suggest removing the 50/50,60/60,70 combo and replacing it with flat 55/55 damage slashes, it fixes the light and heavy breakpoints without touching medium ttk (Which is fine though struggles with Model). And or improve the swing speed by 5-15% to decrease the ttk. A 2-5% momentum buff would be great too so we have a chance of sticking on enemies. This would include sprinting/walking but sliding too

[smoky sluice]

Not only do I not like it, every single player that was at least half decent i played ranked or world tour with hates this map, it’s ruining the game.

[whole palm]

xp boost for battlepass is needed its imposiblle to get bonus rewards if you dont play 25/8, im reaching em1 and still struggle with battlepass bonus pages

[onyx tiger]

Make defib take up two gadget slots. explanation @weapons-gadgets

[soft rain]

i never said that i hate the game. if you use your eyes and read it says that its very boring to play against people alot higher or alot lower than yourself.

[clever hawk]

“We” and it’s just a fruity schizo that can’t track heads with a bot gun 💀

[echo venture]

So farrrrrr

[dusty latch]

And can the community stop complaining about lights the whole purpose of the class was to be a high DPS low health class, the entire purpose of the class is to be able to push fights but have to be watchful of your health. Medium is the good middle, okay DPS okay health the whole point of medium is to be able to push fights and be a little less reliant on stealth and support the team with gadgets. Heavy is the on the farther end, really really high health but with weapons that either A. Are designed for close combat, or mid range fights, the whole purpose of the heavy is to be the front line of the fight and bring the team up behind them.

The current balance of the game has been thrown way off course because Embark keeps listening to the community and giving them what they want. This has led to the player base pushing the intended idea of the light class onto the other two classes.

This is a fair thing to want because yeah light has such little health but that was the original point. Light can do the big damage but can also be taken care of by the other two classes.

Instead the whole idea of light has faded out of favor and the developers are just trying to keep the community happy but they really need to put their foot down and actually have a meeting about each class and it's alignment within the game.

And watch I'm gonna get flamed for my opinion when really all y'all like is smashing out kills and not having to try to be good. People need to put their egos away and actually be constructive when it comes to balancing because let's be honest a new player joining the game right now is very likely to drop it within a week.

Tldr; class alignment isn't what it was intended to be and needs to be properly addressed in order to ensure the long lifespan of the game

[warm glade]

i really do hope we can get input-based matchmaking soon

[safe relic]

The highest speed class should not have the highest DPS. Being melted instantly by a class that can zoom in, spam dodge to avoid most of your fire and instantly plug you full of lead at point blank range is objectively unfun.

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[lime lichen]

Yo shit devs, remove the cancer that is stun gun

[lost talon]

stun should be a button that you hold to zap and if you switch weapons the stun stops working

[vivid oxide]

nade bounce sound would be nice, so you dont randomly take 149dmg from them as much

[fossil thistle]

Embark, give me a real ospuze, and my life is yours

[fading flame]

Put merch in gamestops, zings and ebgames’

[lament surge]

you're probably gold

[dusty latch]

Well then a great way to look at that is what are ways the other classes might be able to counter that while still supporting the ideals of light. But also think would a team involved situation aid in counters

[unborn jetty]

whats wrong with being gold

[wild verge]

nerf every light weapon

[fluid egret]

Fix lag issues.

[jagged cedar]

surely someone of your supposed caliber should have no problem dominating ranked lobbies

[unborn garnet]

anyone else not excited for medium to get another shotty? mid weapon imo 😦

[clever hawk]

You can’t even spell the name correctly 💀💀💀 and this is my discord profile. I don’t share any platforms for privacy.

[stone hazel]

embark please stop doing challenges like this they arent fun and cant even be completed with a ton of the weapons in the game (melee weapons, mgl32 and cl40, etc)

[versed hazel]

Kyoto is still by far the buggiest and worst running map in the game. if it was just a marginal difference compared to the other maps in the game I really wouldn't mind that it is just poorly designed but it actually runs like shit and genuinely makes the game worse.

[brittle obsidian]

if the m26 matter or m11 ever get touched i'm self-immolating on oscars lawn fr 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[nimble pond]

The Double katana is to bad make the deflation work better to be more akuter and that u lose lese helf if usd to block

[rich sonnet]

Embark tysm for the OST

Especially this one:
https://open.spotify.com/track/24zEUFeBpnITGj1uJtc7px?si=76aaeb95b5b44cae

[tribal spoke]

Please buff the dual blades. I suggest removing the 50/50,60/60,70 combo and replacing it with flat 55/55 damage slashes, it fixes the light and heavy breakpoints without touching medium ttk (Which is fine though struggles with Model). And or improve the swing speed by 5-15% to decrease the ttk. A 2-5% momentum buff would be great too so we have a chance of sticking on enemies. This would include sprinting/walking but sliding too

[lost talon]

make a curated weekly playlist of stuff to watch, its fucking impossible to find anything cause the name is "finals", hire TROOP. Youtube is struggling.

[hollow ore]

Make it harder to rank up they be letting anyone in gold and platinum 😂💀

[tardy trench]

BRO. Why do i only que with max rank player no matter what im playing no matter how good or bad i do i get max rank players who have the best aim skill and zero ping all i want to do is have fun and yall max rankers are ruining the game for us peopl who have lifes like bro go do sum else

[versed hazel]

please delete kyoto

[versed cloud]

You either get queued with the ultra sweats or you get queued with the fresh install players.

[fluid egret]

4

[oak kernel]

Man, I think the emerald grind is a bit too much atm. I maybe started my grind in the later 3rd of the season and it definitely feels impossible at this point.

It's just a linear progression track. You've GOT to add more ways to progress on it. Free it from one single mode. It's like a battle pass without any substantial rewards until the bonus pages. I think the most I can make it to is diamond because it takes so long.

Please improve on this for next season. Incorporate more modes into world tour. Maybe have different modes for different rounds, different maps, just anything to make it more interesting. I don't only want to play casual cashout 24/7

[wild verge]

thank god recon senses was removed immediately cuz lights complained but there's still 2 detect nades with over 30m each that lights spam

[quick stag]

The sonar things are all pretty weird. High range, low recharge, quick pulses, but more than that, they're pretty annoying to look at even to your own benefit.

I mean the effects are so strobe-ish and make it impossible to hit shots if the enemy is already in your line of sight.

I think they're fine I guess, but unless it's a night map I don't see the usefulness

[worn tapir]

MORE AKM SKIN... NOW 😡😡

[wraith orchid]

so i have over 1000 hours of only sniper in this game and had no problem winning ranked/wt matches at all. but i need to beg for a change since the 40 meter nerf is so awful that the weapon is just bad at this point. every enemy with a shooting weapon is taking a 1v1 above 40 meter range because the only thing they need to do is strafing a little bit and i have no chance to hit them in any way. for the people out there that dont know what 40 meters are. you know the yellow building on kyoto where a zipline goes between the building and a jumppad leading to the forest area. YES, if i stand on the roof of the yellow building, I CANT HIT SHOTS ON AN ENEMY AT THE JUMPPAD. dear developers, pls go in a private match on kyoto, go on top on the roof, and tell me that this isnt complete bullshit. at the hanging structures event, no matter the map, i should have the opportunity to hit peaking enemies as an attacker, but i cant, and the enemies can laser me with hitscan weapons at really any range. then there is the thing with visual recoil of the sniper while scoping when you get shot.
ANY WEAPON IN THIS GAME DOESNT GET USELESS IF YOU GET SHOT BUT THE SNIPER DOES. all this and then the fact that a fckn m shotgun has such an insane range and ANY OTHER GUN outranges the sniper just makes me wanna cry so bad. 😭😭😭
the reason you changed the sniper was understandable but you havent just fixed a problem but changed it so extreme that you could think you don’t want this weapon to be in the game at all. literally the only weapon where hitscan is an essential😭😭😭😭

[hollow ore]

Please please please play based matchmaking for rank I’m tired of getting teammates who aren’t good it’s genuinely annoying and destroys the fun

[molten trail]

kinda wish they wud force every team in ranked to be LMH. The balance the playlist needs imo. Would probably get me back into the game

[lost talon]

this should be an option, you should be allowed to choose a set of your preferred combinations in solo queue, but for queue times the default option should be all compositions, like I dont want 2 lights on my team in any scenario unless I'm also running light. People could also just troll and change their class after the matchmaking

[edgy urchin]

just dont use sniper, simple as that or u can just hit ur shots not that hard xd

[heavy olive]

Yo this is random and off topic but can we argue that prop hunt would be fun on the finals??? I need feed back on this by as many people as possible

[viral stump]

maining sniper atm and your best bet is to get a overlay, ive been alot more consistent now that my screen is showing me real information.

[dense wraith]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING DISABLE ALL MELEES AND FLAMETHROWERS ON RANKED. My teammate and I have been screwed over by a random playing a melee or flamethrower so many times we can't progress to the next rank because our teammate decides to play anything BUT A GUN in a shooter game. And then they start spamming thanks over and over again when they push by themselves. It would be so nice if we can finally play a single game where we don't have to carry someone throwing the game

[dry plover]

embark please rework Revolver.

[neon ingot]

ranked powershift take it or leave it

[broken geyser]

I was 2nd seed team not even first mind u, and I only gain 500 points for second place. First place was only awarded 900 - not even 1000 which is ridiculous considering I've been losing well over 1300 for 5th and 6th and even losing 500 for 3rd place.

[wide void]

Indeed, this gimmick where it turns into a projectile at 40m is dogshit. It should just go back to hitscan. If they want to make it weaker at some ranges, then they can give it proper falloff instead of turning it into a projectile.

[wild verge]

thank god lights are the most broken thing in the game

[ornate echo]

Hello, I really like playing finals videogame, unfortunately i am simply too good for regular cashout ranked, however: everytime i play powershift i feel challenged and engaged in the videogame, so if you developers could pretty pretty pretty pretty please add ranked power shift that would be sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo cool

[wraith orchid]

falloff is also a too big nerf, adjusting the hitscan range is the only thing you can do to prevent across the map kills (>140 meter which you could still argue about) but everything under that range is still part of fights which is not to debate.😤
40 meters guys
FUCKIN 40

[polar blaze]

Let’s give sword infinite range. And maybe boost the attack arc by 300%

[neon ingot]

alright i have had enough power shift ranked now or else

[vague maple]

I use a lot of melee weapons because I enjoy them.
All but one of them have their uses and can feel good once you get good at them. To no ones shock its the Dual Blades for the Medium class.
It tries to be a more offensive version of the riot shield with its small damage blocking area and ability to reflect bullets combined with its faster two hit swings.
But after playing it for most of season 4 to give it a fair shot it is no where near as affective as any of the other melee weapons even in the most opportunistic moments of 2 lights stuck in an elevator with you.

At least with the riot shield you can get those 2 hits off with ease where with the sword you need to get three hits off. Something that isn't easy because no one stands still shockingly.
The only real buff it needs is to.

• Make the sword swings hit at the same time.
• Enlarge the area that you can reflect damage from.
• Allow sprinting while swinging with only this weapon.

[empty grove]

Devs please watch this video :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsuVsyKawV4

The right click on the sword has less distance than the left click and this does not make sense and the sword is completely unusable right now 😭 😭

[thick sorrel]

The Finals Shotguns Leaked Patch Notes 5.0.0

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added
• ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... it still 2 shots Lights at 15m😂
  **Real Fix: 2-Shots Lights and 3-Shots Heavys, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Defibrillated Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not Alan enough.

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Hulk Smash
  Dev Note: We thought it fits better the damage level - usually used after RPG for a free kill.

Dual Blades

• Decreased Blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

[hasty rune]

Bring back old sword

[vapid drum]

Rework Revolver

[ornate echo]

Hi guys i think power shift ranked would be really cool

[mortal notch]

@clever hawk i agree with my bf sorry man we win the argument. so when are we getting our gameplay of you in ruby showing us how op m11 is???

[tired fable]

the problem is not the weapons in this case,
(I have been match with a stupid flamethrower main doing the same shit too yersterday)

[dry plover]

Embark Please Rework Revolver add a fanning move to it

[crisp hawk]

Add Map to powershift and put ranked 3v3 mod on it
Would be interesting

[icy drum]

https://youtu.be/QsuVsyKawV4?si=fa6Y_fkMYJGLhgSv
Embark please look into rebalancing the sword, because at its current state there is no reason to play it over other weapons

[lapis pelican]

add a sound to applying a spray paint to a surface

[polar blaze]

Me when I’m gold 2 but play against full emerald teams 🤭

[limpid rampart]

the option to hide stats + lobby rank from other players would be really nice.
ranked players can still ask players they've found from an lfg to show their rank.

[serene perch]

A heal pistol should be added, something like:

2 charges 15 cd, fires a single dart with a little reload animation afterwards. Each dart on contact with a teammate immediately starts regeneration with a 1.5x (maybe lower) multiplier, the multiplier is removed if a gadget is used or a gun is shot and regeneration is stopped as normal if you get shot. This would give medium the pattern of having a similar specialization and gadget (light has cloak and cloaking bomb, heavy has mesh shield and dome shield, medium used to have recon nade, and they removed wallhacks). This would give medium a way to have that "top up post fight" gameplay that is separated from heal beam, which allows you to nerf heal beam harder. To Nerf heal beam, I would:
Further reduce its range, and heavily reduce its maximum healing (I would say to about 50-70) and maybe nerf its cd to be higher but buff it's heal rate to about 20hp/s. This would make it the mid fight heal option, able to quickly add health to a low teammate, but due to its low heal cap you don't get the undying medium as even if 2 medium feed medium, the one being healed would of have the same amount of health as if he just picked heavy, discouraging heal chaining due to the low amount of health given

[faint saddle]

Nerf this weapons dmg already

[keen heath]

Give Sword half its range back on the Lung the auto attacks feel longer reach then it

[polar blaze]

They are, the normal swings have longer range, the one dude who plays sword made a vid on it

[lost talon]

Good

[teal minnow]

BRING BACK S2-S3 CIRCUITS, NEW ONES SUCK. Still ty Embark for free skins tho

[quick stag]

If we could blacklist maps to queue for in non-competitive modes that would be wonderful.

Or at least a map vote. I usually hate map votes for removing chance from the equation, but with such polarising maps, it makes sense

[thorny lynx]

Can't wait for the Mayan village/temple theme.... can we just get it now instead of wasting the holidays with no content?

[serene perch]

This is cope, everyone knows its overtuned now that it's meta

[dry plover]

Embark Please Rework Revolver

[fresh anvil]

I would like to kindly request the ability to equip a beard with no moustache which is sunnah in Islam thank you

[mortal notch]

It’s been meta for 2 and a half seasons

[radiant moat]

ARE YOU READY FOR A NEW MAP AND SKINS IN SEASON 5??

[thick sorrel]

Can't wait for Model 2.0 with double damage & range

[red echo]

Bro piss off I thought ir was devs in game announcements and got hyped

[obtuse locust]

Triple the barrels u missed

[dry kiln]

It's a feed back channel not I want to complain and express my opinion channel.

[trim saffron]

bring back closed beta movement (other than zipline launch and prop surf ofc). game needs spice

[spring marlin]

Name the game “The Models & and triple defibs”

[rough herald]

what about:
shooting when hip fire will fan the hammer
shooting when ads is still the same

[dry plover]

nah, ads is the worse for revolver because movement reduction that make medium and easy target when fighting a hipfire weapon (shotguns), a fast shooting rifle , and easy spread spammeble hipfire that have bullet spread (m11, V9S and other more spam hip fire)

[fresh ibex]

I don't see what has to be changed about revolver

[idle glen]

Ive been thinking about a good buff for light that doesnt involve nerfing the other classes . Making light a tiny bit faster than it already is can help make everything about the class feel better. I find myself in situations where the medium class can easly catch up to me without some sort of utility usage which is a bummer.

[cosmic ether]

don't thank me, i had nothing to do with that :^)

[fading flame]

I feel like the way that these devs think is that
Skill < Weapon choices
Because I decided to use my favourite medium weapon and all around decent gun, the famas in a game of ta. I had slight lag but managed to dominate… on everyone other than one kid who would do nothing but hip fire with the m11. The m11 is far and away the best light weapon, and despite me using guardian turret, mines, and frags. I was still unable to get a higher combat score.
Here’s what would happen in these situations:

1. I see him first and kill him before he has a chance to react
2. He sees me and he kills me by pure hip fire
3. He snipes people with a close range weapon (once again the m11)
   These should not happen or at least not 1, and 3 or 2 shouldn’t be that prevalent. M11 is an introduction to light and should be easy to use but not THAT much a better than any other light weapon. Please lower the m11 rate of fire. Also if I use a weapon as good as the famas, then I should not be able to kill anyone before they have time to react. Imagine I was using a better weapon like the fcar or akm and how well that would do. And the model is a high skill weapon but shouldn’t be able to kill a light from 10 meters away. I’m not here to complain about lights, I’m here to complain about the m11 and majority of medium.

This is what should happen:
medium: lower damage, higher support potential, and more team movement options.
Light: give more equipment to breach defensive lines like the breach charge, thermal bore, glitch grenade, stun gun, cloaking device, or grapple.
Please consider these changes. 🙂

And one more thing
GIVE MORE DAMAGE FALLOFF THE THE M11!

[idle glen]

Your opinion is instantly revoked because you said model is high skill. Adding that the light player killed you with hip fire has nothing to do with how good the gun is.He can also aim down sights and the result will not change. I dont think you understand that light needs the low ttk because its so squishy.If you ever wanted to make light weapons balanced between each other, you should bring all the weapons to m11 level since its actually viable. Lowering the rate of fire to the m11 will increase the ttk by a huge amount, making the gun absolutely useless. Experiencing all the light weapons to at least lvl 3 will give you a good idea on how much harder the class is compared to heavy and medium.
Only thing I agree on is that medium shouldnt be able to kill a light that fast with the model at that range but that is a gun issue that will be adressed

[old burrow]

I'm not good at feedback, but man the revolver needs a small buff. Bloom is a lot, and range is really low. Especially with the pike in the game now. Is there any shot of a buff in the future?

[junior temple]

This battlepass/Sponsor grind is killing me. Still on page 3 of the sponsors and only have the first bonus item for the battlepass. By this time last season I was done with the battlepass with the same amount of playtime

[eternal perch]

Can't agree with you there. I just played a couple of round with a light build, mostly M11 and it's still way to easy. That's why I came here to see what people think... Either you use cloacikng or dash with M11, use get in or camp in a corner, someone comes in you unleash the full 40 round mag in about 2 seconds and run away. Yes you are squishy, but you are faster, have many options to leave conflict and the reload speeds are much faster. Any non-melee weapon on the Heavy takes more time to reload than any Light weapon to kill you. And with amounts of lights, especially in non tournament modes, you basically live for one reload. The worst is that besides being so low effort, the lights use The Finals uniqness the less.

[storm tiger]

Please make sure you have amazing Christmas skins. Loads of Christmas trees and lights, snowmen also. Snow everywhere for the new Christmas season.

[dreamy roost]

This. Stuck at golden watch and I’m not really sure how am i going to complete the battle pass in 16 dayz.

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 92)

[fading flame]

Yeah mostly true. The light weapons should be buffed, and the model isn’t always high skill but if I can kill a light before they can move then that is a problem. Light weapons should get buffs, mediums and heavies should get damage needs, but also the main reasons why people hate medium right now is because of the high damage and addressing it with nerfs to the healing beam.

Lights should deal good damage, be high skill and be able to get past something like a mesh shield or triple dome shield. Mediums should deal a smaller amount of damage though still being able to fight back, and having great support and team movement like the jump pad to help heavies. Finally the heavies should have great protection like the mesh shield, and defence like the goo gun.

All of these weight classes should have things specific to them. I think that we can come to a conclusion that the devs have blurred the lines between these classes and they should focus on their specifics and not raw damage to get by.

[plush fjord]

EMBARK hear me:
Put cooldown on all abilities when you get defibbed so that the if i get defibbed, I can't defib the guy that just defibbed me, and if i die again, the guy that I JUST defibbed wouldnt defib me back.
Would make stuff a whole lot easier

[tired fable]

please replace Sledge,M60 and SH1900 lobby pose with a dripper one

[idle glen]

Indeed to all of this

[rough herald]

Defib rework idea
there are currently a frustration in res chaining esp in MMM meta, even if you kill all but one medium that medium can just res a guy and that guy res another and now we are back to 3v3. undoing all our hard earn kill

Suggestion
either:
when you get defib you spawn in like if you get team wipe expect much much closer (form 300 meter to 200-100)
or:
make the Resed person have 0 cool down, their heal beam is over heat, defib 0 charge, frag 0 charge, ect ect

credit to @smoky gust and @plush fjord for this idea

@fresh ibex is there something worgn with it

[fresh ibex]

bro saying the same thing but louder

[mental sky]

Eh well they should take this into consideration

[faint saddle]

My opinion on this season so far:

I’ve played about 500 hours this season, mainly in Ranked, hovering around Plat most of the time and frequently going up against Ruby stacks and Diamonds. I’m a dagger onetrick (with occasional runs using akimbo heavy or a standard medium loadout).

Here are my biggest issues with Ranked this season:
Ruby stacks vs. low Plat players
Playing as a 31k Plat against coordinated Ruby stacks made the experience frustrating. Even when we tried doubling cashouts to create more chaos and balance the fights, we often lost hard. Ruby players were constantly avoided by all teams, and third-partying turned games into a mess. I get that Ruby players have long queue times, but to fix this, I’d suggest hiding ranks in matches so Rubies don’t get avoided all the time.

Awful spawns
The spawn system this season was a mess. After vault fights, the losing team often spawned right next to the cashout, giving them a positional advantage. This frequently led to them denying the plug with stuns, winches, or glitch traps—just felt like complete bullshit.

The Model
While the Model can take skill, it’s way overpowered in its current state. Getting two-shot as a Light/Medium QM, one-shot, or three-shot as Heavy is just too much damage. Reducing its damage to 110 would still keep it viable, but its effective range should stay within quick-melee range—not 20 meters.

The meta, otherwise, feels stale. Shotguns dominate, with medium players mostly running the Model and occasionally the Famas. Heavy players stick to charge, winches, or shotguns. Light players run the DB, auto-shotgun, or occasionally the M11. Every other weapon basically gets no play. (Sword playrate took a hard dive, in my opinion.)

What I’d like to see:

Buff weaker weapons.
Make the 93R as strong as throwing knives and let it three-shot mediums—or something wild like when the Pike was busted at release.

An experimental queue.
Add a test mode where they roll out experimental patches, like adding 1 damage to the XP54 and seeing how it performs. This could run during specific times with an in-game feedback feature or rating system—something other games already do.

Buff dual blades and spear.
Make them more viable and improve hit registration or give better visual representation for melee attacks overall.

More event clothing.
I’ve unlocked everything from the wheel, and while the rewards were neat, RNG-bound rewards suck. Bring back systems like the old High Noon or Steal the Spotlight events.

More map events.
High Rise Fortune Stadium or Up Down Left Right Kyoto were fun. A new map is great, but I want more map modifiers—like Skyway Stadium, which has suspended structures and Fortune Stadium chaos.

Progression improvements:

New progression skins past level 8.
My dagger’s been stuck at level 8 for months. I’m sure others feel the same about their favorite gadgets or weapons.

Infinite rewards after the Battle Pass.
Once the Battle Pass and sponsors end, give us something more to grind for—player cards, badges, or season kill counters (like Apex). For example, I’ve got Holtow Rising Star at level 40 or something, but there’s no reward for progressing further.

Task-based progression skins.
Borrow the amethyst progression skin idea for level 10. But instead of another XP grind, make it task-based—like headshot challenges or other specific goals.

Final thoughts:
I’m really hoping for something exciting next season. This season had the Halloween wheel, some pumpkins, and minor WT events—and that’s about it. I love this game and don’t plan to stop anytime soon, but compared to Seasons 1 and 2, this one felt dry. And don’t even get me started on the disaster that was Season 3.

[prisma cedar]

1vs4 matchmaking in terminal attack is @fast condor

[quick coyote]

rework the RPG to rocket jump
it was nerfed into a destruction gadget but is worse than the thermal bore

[mild veldt]

Yeah they did went a bit overboard with this one for some reason, and it's also shorter time too.

But the main problem is the amount you gain each round, is not that much and the dailys become neglegible after some time.

[junior temple]

Hopefully there's a xp/fans event like there was last season. If they start it up tommorow I can just binge the finals this weekend and finish it all up. I'll have to sweat my socks off but still.

[lilac edge]

1

[quaint cobalt]

Give me a jukebox option so i can choose the music i want in the lobby

[lapis karma]

I WISH FOR IT TOO CUZ ITS HARD TO MAKE IT TO THE END OF BATTLEPASS

[plush fjord]

Thanks for the crediting thing bro ❤️
@fresh ibex its fine he's spreading the message.
we NEED this to get to embark

[long arrow]

stop cry about that use glitches nades / traps for counter defib & dash light habillity for counter model
or stay iron

[sudden spire]

The last two pages of the battlepass require too much exp. Having to get 38k exp a day is egregious

[iron turret]

OK now this needs an immediate fix because I just lost 2k in rs for nothingg !!!
I was queing with friends then the game told us matchmaking failed and everything like seemed normal and theen all of a sudden like after a minute the reconnect button appears to 2 of us and does not appear for our third friend until they restarted the game so I assumed that it is a bug and just left the game and voila 2k lost in rank when I restarted

[plucky perch]

Yesssss. I’m literally typing the same thing

[final solar]

day 54254264556125 of asking embark to nerf model

[mental sky]

The problem is med counters med rn

[visual wave]

Revolver is honestly fine?? Either a smaller deadzone or more damage I guess but it’s a fave.

[vast hornet]

fix ur game embark fuckin smurfing accounts is fucking insane that you can smurf

[upper citrus]

These literally don’t counter any half decent player

[silent grove]

asking for 148641820702 years is crazy dedication

[delicate basin]

revolver needs at least 100% accuracy when standing still

[worn sigil]

Why did they change weekly challenges to just 9 weeks?

Last season there were 3 circuits of 4 weeks..
Now it's 3 circuits of 3?
We're missing 3 weeks worth of challenges!

Also the 2 extra pages used to be:

• 5 tiers of 70k = 350k
• 5 tiers of 90k = 450k
  Totaling 800k
  Now it's:
• 10 tiers of 100k
  Totaling 1mill

I know they want people to play more but come on!

I'm 259k off maxing the BP out (which is doable in 16days) but still I feel sorry for the people who can't play as much
😱

[brittle latch]

I never even thought of that. I was wondering why it's been taking so long and I have played all season

[torpid sky]

if by s5
winch still goes through shields
model still op or u added another op shotgun im pretty sure a decent amount of comp players will just uninstall

[tired fable]

the game does not even have 360 ​​days of service 😂

[lost talon]

you need to play half the season to complete it

[uneven dagger]

Erm they’re not actually scopes

[wraith orchid]

embark please give us a giant amount on qol changes next season this is so easy and wouldnt be controversial so JUST DO IT. you can have major impact on the fun of the playerbase WITHOUT USING NEW CONTENT.

there are so many suggestions in this thread so you should already have a giant list if some of you take this thread serious

THANKS🫶🏻

[vestal prairie]

I'm surprised I'm seeing people still unhappy with the model, I haven't seen it in ranked in plat+ nearly as much since the nerf. And when I do it's primarily on pc because on console it's relatively useless to people who are just aiming to Metaride. To those who hate it rn are you light mains?

[clever hawk]

You and I have already been over this. You are a controller sword main. You likely cannot control M11 past 12 metres. It destroys XP up close and can still compete at close-mid range

[young smelt]

Why don't you fix the freezing up that happens with large friends lists? Grab all the information for friends asynchronously. Seriously, this is starting to get pathetic. Do you have any actual programmers on your team or only game designers? So much broken stuff. I gave the suggestion to save the original map state in TA last season btw to avoid the mid-game loading, which you implemented.

[lucid shale]

don't touch the model, buff other weapons instead

[neon burrow]

Ban the user above me

[marble cedar]

Add more cow accessories please 🙂 moo

[plucky perch]

The last two pages of the battle pass are too much. Can’t gain any xp. Hell of disheartening if you ask me

[jagged cedar]

Much easier to nerf one weapon than buff 30 of them imo

[sleek lintel]

Please remove World Tour completely. It just splits the player base. People who like it should just play ranked and you can move your world tour events to normal cashout.

If it stays, please delete the emerald shit or make real contracts for the skins instead of just play match after match until you have the skins... it's soooo boring

[wraith salmon]

update fsr2 to fsr3.1.2 embark

[patent wind]

Private matches wishlist:

• more spectator slots
• set team names and icon (maybe even custom ones?)
• set whos on what team
• select map modifiers, what event will happen if they happen, and when.
• add final round gamemode
• add solo bank it back
• add a ban menu to ban certain gear and maybe even a way to ban triple medium or heavy etc etc

[blissful bridge]

^^^THIS

[uneven dagger]

"its unplayable" mf's when I think its playable

[keen lily]

solo queue mid to high plat is unplayable

[quartz dirge]

also id like to be able to start matches by myself aswell as these

[chrome basin]

You know what I love Embark? I love Losing 800 RS when my teammate never connects to the match. Its so great. Its the best thing in the hwole wide world. Because I join RANKED to lose RS. Thats my only goal. Just add a flag to a team that checks if the members were in a party before connection and determine by that if a team should lose RS when a user disconnects/abondons match. This is programming 101

Your entire seed system needs complete rework

[mossy tinsel]

When will we get this?
I want to wear a watch over my gloves

[wicked pond]

update fsr2 to fsr3.1.2 embark

[sleek flame]

This graph is hilarious

[rough herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[sudden spire]

Yeah, it's kinda annoying

[autumn warren]

As someone who loves dunking on model players. Its fine. Just gotta change the play strat when encountering is all. I went 5-1 against a model in ranked with a revolver last night it’s not that hard

[flat solstice]

Bank It gives a good chunk of Fans/Xp especially if you win.

[faint saddle]

Cardboard 4 ahh take

[plush fjord]

Day 94205573049724 of praying that the finals soon as an HML meta

[patent wind]

Private matches wishlist:

• more spectator slots
• set team names and icon (maybe even custom ones?)
• set whos on what team
• select map modifiers, what event will happen if they happen, and when.
• add final round gamemode
• add solo bank it back
• add a ban menu to ban certain gear and maybe even a way to ban triple medium or heavy etc etc
• add a ready up system
• let us hide the private match code
• add a "randomize" button that randomizes teams
• let people on the same team in the lobby menu comm with eachother before the game even starts.

[calm plume]

Terrible matchmaking, pure aim assist people , while I don't play with that , pls stop the unfairness , put these cheaters somewhere else

[blissful bridge]

^^^THIS

[wind meteor]

@worn sigil Umm, maybe because last season was 1 month longer than this season !?!

[valid cradle]

I really really love loading into a world tour with only one other teammate and then the warning pops up saying I WON’T be penalized and then when I leave the game I get a 30 minute penalty. Super great system you got embark. Games really really great!!! 👍

[spare sluice]

Anybody else that plays PowerShift only getting The Kingfish and The Shock and Awe?

[serene perch]

reposting:
A heal pistol should be added, something like:

2 charges 15 cd, fires a single dart with a little reload animation afterwards. Each dart on contact with a teammate immediately starts regeneration with a 1.5x (maybe lower) multiplier, the multiplier is removed if a gadget is used or a gun is shot and regeneration is stopped as normal if you get shot. This would give medium the pattern of having a similar specialization and gadget (light has cloak and cloaking bomb, heavy has mesh shield and dome shield, medium used to have recon nade, and they removed wallhacks). This would give medium a way to have that "top up post fight" gameplay that is separated from heal beam, which allows you to nerf heal beam harder. To Nerf heal beam, I would:
Further reduce its range, and heavily reduce its maximum healing (I would say to about 50-70) and maybe nerf its cd to be higher but buff it's heal rate to about 20hp/s. This would make it the mid fight heal option, able to quickly add health to a low teammate, but due to its low heal cap you don't get the undying medium as even if 2 medium feed medium, the one being healed would of have the same amount of health as if he just picked heavy, discouraging heal chaining due to the low amount of health given

[young turtle]

Can we get an exp event or something? Considering how much exp the last 2 pages are, it's atrocious amounts of exp/play time needed to even get a level. I get that you want players to play more but this is NOT it man. Not everybody can play as if it's a 9-5 job man, jesus christ. Lower the exp needed AND give an EXP buff or something.

[worn sigil]

Umm, Bruh, that makes it worse then, wdym?!

If that's your logic then why have they increased all the xp requirements?
Extra 200k for BP for example.

So shorter season this season but longer grind overall?
Last season would be longer but shorter grind.
Doesn't make any sense.
🤔

[nova solar]

Bring back closed beta diamond skins, it would be cool ✊😔

[lost talon]

HOLY SHIT GIVE THE DIAMOND AND THE REST OF TIERS IN WORLD TOUR SOME SHIT TO SAVE FOR NEXT SEASONS, ISN'T THIS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FLAGSHIP MODE WTF.

[rough herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[delicate basin]

healbeam sometimes not work, it doesn't even show the symbol for targeting

[grand wind]

Ranked Games: Players leaving mid game, rest of the team gets zero compensation + has to play till the end to not lose RS. Forget the cosmetics this is essential.

[patent wind]

Private matches wishlist:

• more spectator slots
• set team names and icon (maybe even custom ones?)
• set whos on what team
• select map modifiers, what event will happen if they happen, and when.
• add final round gamemode
• add solo bank it back
• add a ban menu to ban certain gear and maybe even a way to ban triple medium or heavy etc etc
• add a ready up system
• let us hide the private match code
• add a "randomize" button that randomizes teams
• let people on the same team in the lobby menu comm with eachother before the game even starts.
• let us set the region of the custom game regardless of who is the owner
• let us change every value, from cashout length to vault opening time.

@grand wind you can leave if your teammate leaves (not disconnects) with no loss to rs

[low plaza]

Dont give a loss if you have the highest stats (average in the game) but dont give a win either

[quick coyote]

"😞😞😞Aim assist is strong"

meanwhile half decent pc players

[rain leaf]

first game of day, world tour, 1 AFK, GG !

[cobalt topaz]

I get the sword is oppressive but c’mon embark. The slash should not have a longer hitbox than the lunge. And dagger shouldn’t have a bigger hitbox than the sword in general.

[sharp estuary]

Buff aim assist

[woeful arch]

I hadn't even seen this, this is cool 💯 Defo want that too.

Also hope we get a new game mode in Season 5.

[lilac coral]

No go play cod if you want aim bot it’s literally a skill issue on your part

[chilly pine]

why is this error and what can I do?

[magic widget]

S5 new gadget and specialization ideas:

Light gadget: poison dart, shoot the enemy with one of 3 darts, which deals 10 damage instantly and 50 over time, but the poison damage stops if the light gets hurt. Also, shooting a teammate instead heals them for the same amount. The 3 darts can be stacked, but they’ll have a small reload between shots.

New medium gadget: immunity bomb, a flash of light in a bomb that will make those invincible/more resistant to all statuses for a short duration (glitched, stunned, poison, fire, basically anything not an explosion, melee weapon or bullet), maybe give small damage resistance to weapons too (probably not), only one charge though

New light or medium specialization(idk which one would fit the class better): warriors mask, put on the mask to mark any enemies automatically in sight + 2 seconds after being out of sight and have greater aim assist or damage or move speed, but your head will emit a glow/sound cue to warn nearby enemies and has a long cooldown +short duration to balance it

New heavy gadget: bear trap, has 75 health, any enemies walking over it gets stuck for 3 seconds and damaged for 50

[echo urchin]

Are you always so dramatic? Like, do you have an actual point to make that you’re able to explain?

[waxen grove]

Will season 5 save the game? Lmao

[red echo]

what are you saying?

@waxen grove YES

[ionic dawn]

Anyone know what the fastest way to get tiers is

[obtuse pasture]

Maybe get a full stack then

[quick stag]

What was the 3.14 performance update patch?!? 😭😭😵‍💫🥺😭

[quick coyote]

Lock away the model delete visual recoil and stop with the shotgun meta it's so draining having to use a shotty to compete with triple models, I miss when I could use the ak fcar and m11 or v9s, its becomimg draining and boring to just see a whole lobby with models and double barrels and having to use that to get into the finals. lights are almost useless when going up against a double barell its a 1 tap like bruh shotguns are not fun, and it two taps meds and heavys, buff other guns like I'm tired of the nerfs. I want this game to feel satisfying like the beta

@misty rock L take and poor behavior we just want visual recoil gone. Grow up and quit getting angry and throwing insults over someone's take, go seek therapy bruh

[echo urchin]

lmao, calm down, chihuahua ass yap yap.

It’s a meme using some tangentially related images. If you want the source, here ya go.

https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2023/07/saturday-at-the-movies-how-to-bore-sight-your-rifles/

[dry kiln]

Pike 556 rate of fire no match or any other gun in a one on one duel. increase rate of fire.

[open chasm]

Good afternoon, to whom it may concern... I've been playing since season one, from the very first day, and the issue with people using cheats has completely ruined the game. It went from having 100,000 daily players to 14,000, and I'm not surprised. It's honestly not worth playing anymore. I have 5,931 eliminations and 5,065 deaths, nearly a thousand matches played, and honestly, once I finish completing the Holtow sponsorship, I’m done with this game. At least for a very long time. It's unplayable... It's frustrating to see level 30 players killing you with two shots as a heavy, and to keep getting matched with the same players over and over again.

Anyway... goodbye The Finals. I don't think this game will last until the end of 2025 because the developers are doing absolutely nothing to fix these issues. And let's not even talk about how the cash in the Power Grab mode doesn't count for missions, forcing you to play more boring modes. In short, thanks for wasting my time...

[dapper atlas]

cash in the platform is not counted in isuelt contract despite being said cash in any mode. what a 🤡

[low plaza]

Remove invis specialistion and add poison dart specialisation (75dmg impact) (75dmg over 6s) (Can either be thrown or used to stab enemies, If thrown the dmg decreases from further away)

[hasty rune]

remove kyoto and the game will be perfect:)

[cosmic narwhal]

day 22 of asking for a ready up button

[summer elbow]

Are EU servers fucked or is it just me ? High ping is killing me

[delicate star]

remove kyoto from map pool

[feral adder]

8 years marine and still sitting on some discord crying abt some guy posting a meme 😂😂😂

[slow goblet]

Nerf the bow and deagle for the heavy. Buff the movement speed and/or bigger magazine sizes for the fcar I’ve died too many times in ranked with players the deserve to be in ruby ending up in bronze to plat lobbies. Health Regeneration and halve of the weapons have made ranked unplayable

[queen shale]

honestly fuck you embark for the hammer changes

[lost talon]

delete the game instead if youre unironically asking for a bow nerf (asking for an akimbo nerf would get the same respone but thats more of an opinion)

[delicate basin]

Removing smoke from the game would be fine by me tbh

[quartz dirge]

lololol bow nerf? ur actually nuts for even suggesting that, please tell us whats wrong with it

[fathom otter]

Sword players are stinky that's why there is stupid range 🙃

[fleet socket]

We had a WT week for alien invasion, can we get the same thing for the meteor shower? Been playing medium for days now and the only time I got it, the meteor only rain down on the cashout across map, not ours

[vale acorn]

New specialization idea, The piggyback stack

[wraith orchid]

hanging structures is so stupid you cant do shitz 90% of the time if you arent able to bring the structure doewn

[soft rain]

EXPRESSING MY OPINION ON WHAT IS BAD/GOOD OR GIVING CRITICISM OF WHAT I THINK CAN IMPROVE IS THE LITERALL MEANING OF FEEDBACK 😭🙏🙏

[echo urchin]

1. I ain’t telling you shit, dumbass. I gave you the source for the image that was used in a meme about a video game, which you are having a tantrum about.

2. See a therapist because you either have PTSD, intermittent explosive disorder, some other mood disorder, or, you’re just an insufferable, insecure, entitled douche.

Edit: also, weird to leave out the last two digits of your MOS code.

[twilit sand]

delete kyoto jesus fucking christ.

[sleek swan]

a few unfiltered thoughts;

Solo gamemode/campaign would be nice

making shotgun shots never shoot in a consistent pattern (at least as far as i've noticed)

where's my finger gun V9S skin and comically large bomb frag skin

and better matchmaking please

[wraith salmon]

id love this game if they updated fsr2 to fsr3.1.2

[sharp estuary]

I just want to play as well on a controller as I play with M&K, the aim assist of this game is horrible, impossible to play with pike, V9S and Fcar (i have 600 hours playtime) If you think someone is better than you for playing with a controller, then you must have an extreme skill issue.

[quick coyote]

Fix some the spawning stuff where you don’t spawn millions miles away from the box but at least from a good distance

[ornate echo]

Ranked power shift please

[teal minnow]

You mean M11 too

[median yoke]

yea

[polar arrow]

4 team king of the hill gamemode would be fire

[lost talon]

said nobody ever, its meant to be a fun mode, game will never be balanced around this mode and some shut ins will find some crazy cheese to break the mode and others will start copying them

[jagged vector]

Need to stop nerfing everything and start buffing more

[high onyx]

it would be a dream come true

[violet elbow]

increase fcar damage by a single point so it wins the TTK trade against Famas, all we need to set the gun apart from the other rifles

[livid belfry]

How long does a support reply usually take?

[sudden spire]

I don't like how there are scenarios where it's impossible for 3rd and 4th for overcome 2nd. 2nd should always have the threat of being overtaken even until the last moment. Only first should ever be secure before the end of the match

[oak kernel]

Can the dash make people dash further, but have more delay between dashes? Like not a lot, but a little. I think it's annoying to deal with because it's so spamable tbh

[torpid sky]

double plug and steal from purple?

[maiden ember]

heyyo where can i submit an idea for the game? i like to think i got a wild idea to make the final seconds of the game mad hype

[lilac coral]

Who cares if you have 9000 hours if your asking for aim assist buff then it is a skill issue

[chrome tartan]

This doesn't happen all that often unless 3rd and 4th teams are completely outskilled by the upper two/utterly disorganized
Skill issue to be honest

[obtuse creek]

I have a relatively complex request (or at least I think it is, I know nothing about modeling in games, only in blender and stuff like that), but I noticed with the Ospuze Cold Mask, it's the same model as the Special Ops Helmets, and the Noctovantage Helmet. But, with the help of the Hedge Hunter Bundle, I get to see how it looks with a helmet, and there's no clipping issues, there's no texture clashing going on, so I just kind of want to ask if it's possible, can the Ospuze Cold Mask be made a facewear? It would look amazing with the new Ospuze headset, or the Splatter Blitz Cap from the paintball bundle. Or just any helmet that doesn't have some kind of mask attached, the Shinobi Wrap is a great example, it's a facewear and looks amazing with helmets and the Ospuze headset, but the Ospuze Cold Mask can't use facewear, so it takes up both slots, when it's completely possible for it work with helmets and headsets, and potentially even hats, like the Ospuze Comms Hat, or the beanies, like the Causal Beanie, all these I tested out with the Shinobi Wrap, but in the end it's just a cosmetic request and it would make me very happy if this could be done. Thank you for hearing me out if any of the design team sees this. Here's a couple screenshots as examples for my "research" lol-

First couple are examples of how it would look using the Shinobi Wrap, the rest are the current headwear that use the model incorporated into it, and the last is the Hedge Hunter set giving me the perfect example of how it would look with a helmet.

[nimble tiger]

Devs please go check this out and take this in consideration for sword players : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsuVsyKawV4

[fleet socket]

We had a WT week for alien invasion, can we get the same thing for the meteor shower? Been playing medium for days now and the only time I got it, the meteor only rain down on the cashout across map, not ours

[icy marsh]

The sword lunge (right click charge) has less range than the sword swing (left click tap)

Please change this ;-;

[edgy lotus]

i fucking hate world tour. let me earn cash in power shift for contracts damnit

[copper lark]

someone's never used the ks23 i guess

[vapid sand]

Men I really hope they bring back some more „faster beat“ soundtracks which pumps you up in the main menu like in season 1 (play fast - here we go). That fits so much better in a game show then simple normal soundtracks

[terse glacier]

You could add game piece customization for your game piece when you die.

[upper citrus]

It’s almost like heavy has always been intentionally bad at taking out vertical / long range targets…… 🤯

[sturdy saddle]

Hey yall! I hope this is the right place to post this... Are there any plans to implement KBM support on consoles? My pc is broken rn and I really wanted to play the game but I only have a console, and, well, can't aim on controller lol

[near ice]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/Sm9p4t9S6P

[lilac coral]

Am controller never played MnK and I have no issues with getting kills but I see your point with the visual recoil

[sudden spire]

If you're not in First place, then you should not be guaranteed moving on. The game is better as a whole when last minute steals are possible. If you don't want the risk of getting knocked out at the last second than you need to be in 1st place at the 2min mark. "Skill Issue" is disingenuous because you know as well as I that the 1st seed team doesn't always win.

In general, the matches feels a lot less close than they use to in earlier seasons

[teal sky]

A couple of changes I thought of for light:
1st maybe add a stim gadget which quickly regenerates health for them and can be used on a teammate instead. This would make the class a bit more forgiving and add a bit of a team play element which feels needed for the class.

2nd maybe a slight buff to their cash out steal speed, something subtle maybe 10% just to incentive objective play

[chrome tartan]

That doesn't make sense at all, if there's such a gap between scores it's for a reason; the bottom teams failing to keep up and play objectives effectively.
I don't get why low-performing teams should be given a free crutch for failing to plug or cashout more than once especially with the new plug meta
Skill issue bro honestly
Not to mention that nothing is stopping you from stealing both cashboxes and plugging them at the same vault, or grabbing the spare cashbox and plugging it in the final vault before stealing it ( considering your team is good or lucky enough to clutch )
So there is always a way for the round to have an unexpected ending

[quick coyote]

This game is about risk honestly it is a skill issue @mild veldt if your not good at stealing then its a skill issue if your not first to the cashout its spawn, but what i do is try to cut the off or camp the obj and place it in or just steal, noone should have crutch for not adapting and getting better, and honestly i miss the team wipe punishment where it took so much from your cash i think that was peak finals..

And it isn't safe for first place someone will get near the same amount of money and sometimes it comes down to who has more kills

@mild veldt nah that's just cheesey and not possible without boosting the players money amount, if they're bad at objective then they're bad

[mild veldt]

To be honest, the game has already strong discrepancy in skills, and if it comes to a point to absolutely no way to comeback then there's very little incentive to continue.

It wouldn't hurt to have a comeback system so the game is never too one sided, as long as you persist you might have chance to win.

Some games already have implemented some sort of system so games doesn't feel too stompy but still competitive, is just that The Finals begin the way that is with such terrible matchmaking would help make matches more interesting.

And I'm not saying to just hand over win towards the last place, but a away to never make the game safe for anyone.

@quick coyote

I will repeat myself only one more time, the game does not have a huge amount of players to balance out properly the skill gap. If it's this discrepancy towards the two other teams versus the third and last, then they shouldn't be paired at all with them. But there's not enough numbers for that, so having some sort of system to help the last places wouldn't feel out of place.

And hell dude, you people love to throw "skill issue" at everyone that doesn't want to throw their intire life playing a game xD

[dreamy gull]

I want to hear the song Plugged In again every time I queue up for a match. Please bring back season 1 OST I’m begging you. I’ll do anything to have custom menu music

[broken citrus]

Gun is very niche and unreliable.. and you appoh ( which supposed to know these basic stuff ) want me to use it JUST for environmental purposes ? Please explain more

[barren silo]

Why does the victim get to shoot before me when I hook them

[daring fossil]

forced myself to jump on to do my dailies an in attempt to finish the battle pass since my interest in this game is waning due to out of touch devs, 2 games in a row with potato team mates, then I get a bug where it wont let me steal the cashout even though im 2 inches from it with no obstructions, and that's as much patience as I have for this game today.

[copper lark]

right and the comparison of the post was about thermal bore, a very niche thing JUST for environmental purposes, that realistically is a bad choice most of the time, heavy has more destruction than other classes, ks23 is a great weapon that can do well regardless of suspended or not but that weapon alone is much better than light for destruction, if you are not bringing destruction oriented tools into your loadout, its obviously gonna be bad for destruction, this post is completel ignoring so many options teh game offers, thermal bore being better than rpg for destruction is a very obvious comparison but theres more to the class than just that.

[versed cloud]

Sword lunge animation seems out of sync at times.

[worn sigil]

I can be L M H and still get hit by another H Sledge nowhere near me!

The radius is too much!
They're barely in the doorway after I bathed through it and still hit me!

😩🤬

[woven hawk]

At least 2 map additions to PS would be EXTREMELY appreciated

Also, PS and BI in WT would be amazing

[opal anvil]

I'd love any new maps

[tepid spruce]

game crashes even after reinstalls, verify's and other stuff not even a few like every other match

[chrome tartan]

The point is, there is already 100% valid ways to comeback unless your team is ridiculously trash or obviously throwing the game with zero plugs or cashouts
The final cashboxes are worth 15,000 and 22,000, more than enough to comeback by clutching or teamwiping through 3rd partying last second. Even if the scores arr absolutely hopeless, if you manage to cashout both at the same vault it's an ez win even against sweaty teams

At this point having bad teammates is quite literally skill issue or matchmaking issues, and shouldn't require making massive fundamental changes to the core mechanic of the game just to accomodate rival teams having better tactics and aim lol

[valid canyon]

then how are lights supposed to do anything if it doesnt have the highest dps

[torpid sky]

ks-23 is niche and unreliable?????????

[burnt sedge]

This game is nearly unplayable with the amount of people using recoil cheats

[mild veldt]

It's 100% matchmaking issues, with no way to solve it sadly. But I see, I suppose the game has somewhat it's own "comeback" mechanic. But all your points makes sense! 👌

[tall furnace]

get za servers PLEASE THE PING DIFFING IS ACTUALLY SO ANNOYING even with exit lag

[echo urchin]

I don’t think it’s, I don’t know if the right word is fair or accurate or something else, but, comparing destruction capabilities of a main weapon versus a gadget doesn’t really work.

The thermal bore might be niche, but it’s a gadget; you can keep it in your reserves and swap it in and out, depending on the map or how much you anticipate needing it, without sacrificing too much in terms of your playstyle.

On the other hand, swapping out your main weapon, fundamentally changes your playstyle. It’s a big deal.

Aside from that, the ks isn’t even that good at destruction. It takes multiple slugs to destroy anything, it has a slow rate of fire so it takes a good amount of time to destroy said thing, and then the reload time is asinine. So you spend all this time destroying something and then you are incredibly vulnerable while you take 3 business days to reload.

[lament talon]

nerf slam dmg why should you have slam and charge damage

as a heavy main

[quaint forge]

Buddy really thinks people give a shit abiut the things he says. Instead of picking fights with people how about you get a job? It looks like you got too much free time in your hands lonely mf

[small mesa]

hello]

[zealous mural]

the grind is just insane. we need a 10x bonus for the last two weeks at least. Don't do this next season, it leads to the INSANE burning out of the game. Previous seasons were fine in terms of grind.

[molten trail]

LMAOOO still cry after days clearly you care 😛

[fallen sky]

love the game

[quick coyote]

ongg it be fye

[harsh panther]

Triple medium is so unhealthy for the game but I’m not even sure how to fix it
The class that is able to turn 3v3’s into 3v6’s should also not have the single best gun in the game

Medium currently has 0 weaknesses other than maybe glitch trap which is on medium as well

[dapper rune]

exp & fan boost soon abeg 🙏

[teal minnow]

Ranked is worse than S3 Embark ,REMOVE FKING RS SYSTEM ITS A PIECE OF SHIT. Revert ranked to S1-S2 when everything was fair🤯 ,also one more thing have you realised that in your new RS system shit there is alway 2-3 teams with 0 chances to even qualify? S1-S2 ranked never had things like this ,and thats why those we're better. Really I am losing hope season by season that ranked is gonna be good once, every time its "Next season ranked will be better" then y'all proceed to make it worse and more unbalanced. Hope die last I guess but its already dying..

[tropic swift]

The game overall has turned into a rock paper scissors game with too much distance between classes and gadgets that don't blend in together. I think the classes are way too different from each other in order to balance, otherwise the game is going to stay as a braindead ability game. Spawn positions are horrible, there are way too many instances where teams wind up on a single cashout instead of the other, or spawning right next to a team.

Audio pollution in this game is probably the worst I've ever experienced since Apex Legends. I lost multiple games because the game couldn't even alert me with sounds you should be able to hear in every game. Ex: A whole team running right below you

• Footsteps are basically close to none
• Sometimes gunshots from enemies becomes silent, making it more difficult to gather information using sounds especially in a gun fight
• Sometimes important sounds like cash out alarms don't play
• Sometimes gunshots continuously play despite the player being dead
• I can't even hear my own gunshots

Classes and balancing:
Insta kill elements(In lights and heavies mostly) in the game is way too much. The concept of lights need to be figured out because it's a balancing hell for you guys. The class needs more survivability and not kill speed. Increased kill speed only will have frustration on the side being killed and less dependent on the individual's skill.

Heavies have decent abilities that seems fair, but charge n slam is way too broken. Reduce the damage a little bit. The hit registration for melee weapons are weird, same for charge n slam.

MMM meta with the model needs to be fixed. There is zero creativity and fun involved to use the most bland class in the entire team. Actually, there should never be a meta where only a single class is used in a team.

[lilac plank]

the game is fun

[surreal torrent]

Game is fun

[quaint forge]

If you wanna keep arguing go find friends to talk to, go to your lfg channels you were talking about, get friends and a life please

[unreal zodiac]

game is fun but please fix the spear

[unborn jetty]

Nerf spear pls

[keen lily]

fix ranked, the skill level between plat 2 and dia 4 is pretty much the same because of the wrong points rewards/punishment proportions, it shouldn't work like this

[teal minnow]

Good point but one small mistake , I did not mention balance of the weapons you know? I'm fine with the one tap meta for now. "Fair" meant team ¹ has to play almost an hour barely gaining 300-550RS but if they lose 2nd round they will be rewarded with a -700
And team⁸ would most likely be just some golds with one plat player in a plat lobby and they would get arround -700 if they lose too.

[tropic swift]

Lmao

[jagged cedar]

this ranked season sucks but its still the best weve had tbh @teal minnow

[glass fjord]

add a setting to remove pairing you with snipers. cannot stress how much time I've wasted because of them

[tidal storm]

Fix the meta. It shouldn't be triple meds or 2 meds and a heavy as the meta. Its not balanced and its super upsetting.

[open chasm]

I HAVE A BIG IDEA, CHANGE THE NAME FOR THE CHEATERS!!

[molten trail]

Im not even arguing hahaha you stay cry my little victim 😂 😛

[quaint forge]

“Stay cry my little victim” wtfff 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[dreamy gull]

Make world tour less grindy. People who work 90+ hours a week can’t make emerald due to life.

[sage sapphire]

im having an audio issue where everysound seems to be slowed and pitched down abt 25%

[dreamy ore]

you really need to fix the UI, the icon that mark the deposit, is overlapped by the pin mark and is not clear if an enemy is banking the money or not, is ridiculous stupid. Who thought it was a good idea doing that.
I lost a match because I was not able to see the red bar been filling

[spare topaz]

-Mines are inconsistent and radius is minuscule
-Defib is inconsistent and glitches out
-Trophies glitch through surfaces and teleport through them

I hope this gets patched

Please fix Kyoto dear lord it’s bad. 👇

[fleet socket]

Make defib go on 50%-80% CD whenever getting revived from defib

[molten trail]

😛

[dawn valve]

NERF THE FUCKING CHARGE

[maiden ember]

Simply put, the game needs a buzzer beater delay on the zero count.
When the clock hits ZERO, the game doesn't end until the cashbox hits the ground/wall/contestant unless the vault lands in the cashbox
I understand this would create a HUGE skill gap between players who can throw the box far and accurately and those who can't.
The point would be so if the vault's flight is interrupted in any way the game is OVER

[rapid pike]

Could we please fix that people drop out of the party when they crash. It is incredibly frustrating to re-queue just to find you are missing one of your team mates and they have to sit around

[mild veldt]

Powershift gains of exp and fans are laughable, I mean geez guys give it a bit of return. Majority of the time is a full 15 minutes match, even bank it which is much faster gives more.

I mean, if you get second or third place you basicaly earn the same amount as victory in powershift lol

[mint elk]

imma keep it real, the rose tinted glasses are crazy, alot of s4 ranked is the same as s1 and 2, except things were hidden, rs was hidden, seeding was hidden, if you played s2 you would know some game you would get different amount of ticks up and down even though you did the exact same, meaning there were deffo some other factors at play. its just now everything is unhidden, and now you have something to blame

[nova plover]

strange question but if I hypothetically got queued up with a teammate who was cheating (soloQ) and I didn't know or realise they were, will that get me WT points deducted at the end of the season?

[torpid sky]

same with lh1

[upper granite]

Small thing big improvement: reveal emerald skins at the start of the season. Pls copy-paste so it gets seen 🙂

[slow goblet]

Embark, I respect this game with utmost passion and I have slowly started to lose my absolute mind when it comes to how bad every mode has gotten. I play in matches that have bows,snipers,swords, and daggers behind every corner I turn to see as if I’m playing a match of cod on the cdl level of things. Regular modes have been fun and I love playing powershift and cash out just most of the stuff I usually see in game start to make my teammates immediately leave after getting hit for one shot or if not that absolutely demolished by a full team stacked together like a couple of friends celebrating a wedding all on the same day. Please embark fix your ranked play and season pass is surprisingly amazing these pass few seasons I can’t lie🙂‍↕️

[woeful lagoon]

give the sa1216 a cool skin, it deserves it

[burnt notch]

What do u expect when ur shooting while jumping and hipfiring?

[long oxide]

add ground destruction like digging trust itd be awsome

[lean tree]

• Fix the matchmaking (shouldn't be possible i que with the same people two games in a row...)
• NERF THE MODEL
• Buff mesh shield
  Please change this steal and plug meta, every game is the same, need to carry my team every game

[limpid ocean]

so i've been experiencing this bug in the game where it sets me as the default M class for some reason and just recently some of my matches i've been disconnected and kicked mid fights, i would reconnect and play out the tournament with the God awful default M class and then get a temporary suspension bc i apparently dodged...anyone has any tips? or can help me? or is this happeneing to a lot of people?

[night glen]

@EMBARK-DEVS Why do you think that it is ok to give the "get 1 MILLION cash" challenge is ok? Do we have the next few months to get this challenge completed? If we only have until the end of the battle pass, the casual player, like me, has no chance to get it done. Can you explain the thinking behind this challenge? I don't play the tournament style games, it takes too much time per game. Do you not want anyone who doesn't play torunament style to finish this challenge?

[brittle obsidian]

me when i hipfire in-air and my bullet doesn't go where i want it

[final solar]

HEY EMBARK HOW ABOUT FIXING THE TAZER GLITCH WHERE WHEN YOU SHOOT IT JUST SWAP TO YOUR PRIMARY ??? NO ??? BECAUSE IT IS HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON ALLONGSIDE MODEL BEING COMPLETLY BROKEN ! this is the worst season for balance and for glitches

[maiden shell]

the movement speed penalty on heavy is far too harsh

[sonic salmon]

you cant get a mill? thats kinda of crazy ngl even if you play like 2 hours a night (not even) not playing power shift or quick play playlist, just World Tour youll get it done before the end of the season. And if you get to the second round with a total of 50k you only need 20 games soooo like say 40 games from now till the end of the season is completely do able.

[upper citrus]

finals players when the challenge is challenging

[versed cloud]

$1,000,000 =50 wins of quick cash if that's all you played

[dawn valve]

NERF. THE. CHARGE. NOW.

[barren silo]

Remove Kyoto from the game literally who likes it? God awful map design just accept it was a waste of time id rather play the other maps more

[delicate ivy]

Does anybody know why the beginner circuit was removed? I made a new acc and I struggle getting enough VRs for anything without the challenges that provide them

[stuck sentinel]

or 8-10 rounds wt

[vapid drum]

Rework revolver please embark

[echo radish]

Embark never going to manage with people partying up with cheaters to get boost rank. Here's proof. Actual cheater(which shooting SA with full choke and through shield) doesn't appear on leaderboard, but those two fucker who healbeaming that cheater still alives on the leaderboard. This is pretty common rank match in asia and I'm really sad embark do nothing about this kind of action. People, Just make a bunch of New account and use a cheat to boost your RS because you'll get diamond skin anyway. They never going to give your account ban or suspended. Why do you use cheat? a one time account will do everything for you and get 7 day ban, not your account. This is honestly so sucks. You, embark, please do something about this. make a permaban for these kind of people too.

[tough merlin]

They never said the challenge is suppose to be easy or casual oriented, altho that isn't really a hard one.

[celest tree]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615

[dawn stag]

I think the XP/Season Duration is overscaled this time around. The last two pages are a little absurd. I average out more or less around 1.5 hours per day according to steam, I finish all dailies, and all circuit contracts. In previous seasons I have been able to finish every level with little issue, however in this one I am barely able to finish the 1st bonus page, despite not changing my play habits at all. I think it's a fair ask that I should be able to unlock everything offered considering I play consistently every day, complete all contracts, and already paid upfront for the pass. I would appreciate another catch-up xp event to help remedy this mistake, and hopefully next season will be better balanced.

Some other feedback for contacts:

• The "Stop enemy from stealing cashouts" needs a looser requirement. The circumstances to make this happens are unlikely and requires the enemy to act a certain way, which gets harder the higher you climb in skill (most players immediately stop attempting a steal when shot). The only realistic way to trigger this one is to use the stun gun, and I personally don't enjoy light. I think it would be better as a team objective, and only require killing an enemy that you recently damaged while they were attempting to steal your cashout. (AKA, you stopped them from stealing it and put them down.)
• The $1,000,000 can only be earned through specific gamemodes. This is a little strict and limiting for players, especially since it's on the last page of circuit. This is a gameshow about winning money and all of the game modes award cash. If this returns next season, let us earn in a larger variety of ways.

[tribal spoke]

Please buff the dual blades. I suggest removing the 50/50,60/60,70 combo and replacing it with flat 55/55 damage slashes, it fixes the light and heavy breakpoints without touching medium ttk (Which is fine though struggles with Model). And or improve the swing speed by 5-15% to decrease the ttk. A 2-5% momentum buff would be great too so we have a chance of sticking on enemies. This would include sprinting/walking but sliding too. Buff their range

[sonic salmon]

Id rather have kyoto over vegas but both need to be gone

[sudden spire]

That doesn't matter because if my team is behind most of my teammates just give up. No one ever wants to "steal both vaults and put them in the same cashout" so that option is virtually non existent.

Besides, if the match can get decided at the halfway point than why even have 4-5 extra minutes? Why draw it out?

Also, shouldn't the matchmaking be avoiding matches that are going to be super one-sided? Full match domination should be a rare occurrence, not so regular that two teams in one match dominate. This game is considerably better when its chaotic and fun, not a meatgrinder

"...shouldn't require making massive fundamental changes to the core mechanic of the game just to accomodate rival teams having better tactics and aim lol"
It's not a fundamental change, I'm literally advocating for part of how the system use to work.

To be clear, the idea is that FIRST PLACE is (almost) always safe. If you are in first place at the 9min mark than you have proved you are the best in the lobby and unless you do something really stupid you are going to move to the next round. However, SECOND PLACE should never be safe, even until the last 10 seconds. 3rd and 4th should ALWAYS have the chance to pass you. If you didn't want to be in a risky position, than you needed to do better at the beginning of the match. Being in 2nd and then having 4th pass you at the last second is a "skill isssue"

[silk tartan]

my clips are the only feedback you need rtmp://a.rtmp.youtube.com/live2

[tropic swift]

Better accuracy on aim when attacking for the blades would be great too. Attacking with the weapon feels off and awkward.

[fleet socket]

Make meteor shower event happen again

[lime lichen]

The damage would have to be at least 60x2 not 55x2 to make them viable, but I still recommend making is 50x2 60x2 70x2 that way you get rewarded for finishing the combo currently you get punished

[maiden shell]

too many meatgrinder lobbies as mentioned

[tribal spoke]

Its really weird but it is accurate actually, the problem is its server sided so you have to predict where the enemy will be by the time your reflect "reaches" the server. This applies to both you blocking the damage and reflecting it back, so I think that's part of the reason bullets go through the deflect sometimes and hit you for 100% damage when not expected

[tidal lake]

So every season that you have come out. You may Rank even Worse. And honestly I don't know how you do it. The first season was so good. The match making was good. The point system would good. And on top of that, there were events in the ranked matches. But now it ranked The moment I get to 29000. I had 5 match in a row where my teammate. Left in the middle Of the match. Now, please, for season 5, Fix is all.

[jovial kernel]

Defib is pretty miserable to play against, especially TRIPLE defib

Can we make glitch nades cancel defib AFTER it's been used? Like when the player is still stuck in the animation.

Defib is too strong not to carry as a medium and there is no counter play to it other than standing around until the invul timer has run out.

If I'm 1hp and killed the person who used the defib, I'm probably going to die when the defibed player can move again. OR that player immediately defibs the player that I killed first, I kill the defibed player, and now have to fight the same guy again. Not fun :[

Any nerf to medium / defib would be welcome to reduce the amount we fight against it / have to rely on it to compete

[dawn valve]

Ok Embark listen to me. You obviously never fucking read this chat but Im trying anyways. If I get 8th place, ill lose on average 1000 RS. To get 8th place means youve completed a 15 minute or so round. Now to gain that same amount, which is generally 1st or 2nd, you have to complete 3 whole matches, which takes about 45 minutes. If I spend 2 hours playing, I'm WAY more likely to lose RS than gain it. 45 minutes could lose me 3000 RS or more, but I cant gain more than an 8th seed 1st place (which is obviously unlikely, which gains me MAYBE 2000 RS at MAX. I do not have the time or patience to grind this game for ridiculous amounts of time, nor is the time spent to RS gained/lost ratio fair at all. I just lost almost 4000 RS in around 2 hours, it will take me over 4+ hours to gain that back. Fuck that.

[mellow pasture]

Does anyone else find it weird there's no solos or duos

[icy marsh]

Yes and the range of the lunge is now LESS than the range of the Left Click Swing…. Make it make sense 😦

[echo urchin]

Why fuck doesn’t the model have the same range as the other shotguns?!

[toxic bough]

EMBARK PLEASE ADVERTISE YOUR GAME MORE😭😭😭

[oak kernel]

I don't agree with you here. I think everyone should be in danger unless someone earns a massive lead. They NEED to bring back the 30% wipe penalty for getting wiped. Perhaps up it to at least 22% or so from the 10% it's at currently. That'll reward skillfull play and playing more thoughtfully, while also giving the opportunity for teams lower down to catch up (assuming equal skill).

I think it'd be nice to possibly have the cashbox amounts have some degree of randomization as well. Like maybe there could be a high value cashout that spawns every once in a while, or maybe sometimes the opening cashouts could be the higher value ones every once in a while. Nothing major, but it'd be a nice shakeup and make every round feel different. The first cashout is practically meaningless atm, but if you made it so sometimes the first cashboxes are actually valuable it could make matches feel pretty unique from one another. Most of the time they should be how they are now, but shaking it up sometimes would be good.

Defibs should also be reworked. If recon vision could be removed from the game because embark were too lazy to do some simple reworks for it, maybe they should just remove defibs as well and replace it with something else. I mention this because wiping teams feels really annoying atm, but that's just me. Nothing like a medium reviving a medium to then revive the heavy and basically reset the fight.

[upper citrus]

Because it’s a long barreled shotgun and the range is supposed to be the point of the weapon. It just needs a damage nerf

[sudden spire]

Your suggestion is better than leaving it as is, but I like the idea of rewarding the early game leader. Otherwise it may make the first cashout feel pointless

[tidal lake]

Does anyone else want the dead go boom event back? And events back in rank matches.

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[gusty pine]

Why is every single world tour either zero cashouts in the first round and eliminated or great until the final round then absolutely nothing but team wipes? I'm the lowest world tour rank sometimes playing against emerald teams what the fuck is this matchmaking

[terse oxide]

It is absolute garbage that WT and ranked don't balance off each other. Playing emerald ranked people in low rank WT is top shelf bullshit

[quick owl]

the "Earn $1,000,000 cash" contract is almost impossible in OCE. No one plays any mode except for quick cash (or powershift which gives no money), which means I need to have at least 1 cashout in the next 53 games, each game is 15 minutes so I have to find 13 hours AS A MINIMUM in the next 14 days, which is hard between a full time job and other commitments.

I could play on other servers, but so far between the lag and bot team mates, have earned me less than 10k over 5 games.

[dreamy gull]

GET RID OF RIOTSHIELDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!! NO ONE HAS EVER ASKED FOR OR EVER WANTED RIOT SHIELDS IN A SHOOTER GAME! FUCK THIS GAME. THESE CORNY ASS WEAPONS DO NOT BELONG IN A GAME LIKE THIS. WTF IS THIS SHIT

[valid ember]

Wow this place is crazy lol

[shell raven]

riot shield is legitimately one of the easiest weapons to counter - melee, gas, and fire damage bypass shields, their feet are exposed, and they can't attack while blocking. if you are getting bodied by riot shields you are playing too far away from your team, or don't realize that the best strat against them is just run away

[opaque dock]

please delete quick cash from oce please, no ranked, no world tour in oce, NO ONE CAN PLAY ANYTHING BUT QUICK CASH AND WE ARE FORCED TO PLAY ON 300 PING IF WE WANT TO PLAY WORLD TOUR OR RANKED ERASE QUICK CASH IN OCEANIA I BEG REGION LOCK US OR SOMETHING PLSASE

[smoky sluice]

@terse oxide what does emerald have to do with ranked tho? there’s no emerald in ranked.

[lyric whale]

its not that bad bro im in oce and basically only play on na and its fine once ur used to it hit reg can just be funky at points

also can we make a tie in quick cash get decided off kills if money is tied

[brave copper]

get defibs out.

[bold moth]

I hope more contracts get extra point sources next season
interupting steals could also count for killing players in Bank It while near a cashout, or killing enemy players contesting the platform in power shift
same goes for challenges where the goal is to steal. Taking 5k+ from a killed player in Bank It or successfully capturing the platform after it's fallen into enemy control should count for those contracts.
the change recently has already been great, but it can still depend on lobbies more than skill

[opaque dock]

its bad enough to lose me a game, if i dare slide at the wrong time ill pay the price 2 seconds later by sliding into a wall, i dare throw a dome shield it hits the ground and doesnt open, i dare pick up a canister or cashbox after throwing any gadget it drops and runs 30m away im going to end my life on live stream

[maiden shell]

dont do that bro

[hearty dagger]

grinch outfit for Christmas oh god please

[lyric whale]

its not fun but thats the oce experience outside of games with like 50k+ avg players

[delicate yoke]

Can we get an extra exp modifier maybe a few more contracts for the last week of this season? There just feel like we didn't have us much time this season plus most people aren't able to grind regularly. I just want to make it to the SL.E.D.gehammer

[valid ember]

That would be great

[thorny hare]

i love dying to the model. it's really good that it can kill an entire team of medium players without reloading a single time. it's also really cool that it does more damage to the body than a sniper rifle. that's super cool and balanced. thanks embark!

[brittle obsidian]

can't wait for the new s5 weapons to be so insanely broken they make me long for triple model meta

[wide void]

STOP SPAWNING THE WIPED TEAM ON THE CASHOUT. ESPECIALLY IN THE FINAL ROUND. ffs

[crimson orbit]

Wrong

[maiden shell]

i just want new gadgets and specializations so bad

[teal minnow]

They need to add smth like a system that gives you extra RS for getting more combat score elmins ect. But also it can give you negative RS if you simply suck all match long, or just something that makes losing a bit less painfull cus you can play 2 hour long gaining 2000-2500RS then after one bad match you can lose arround 1100 of that, also the fact that team¹ will have to play almost an hour long to gain 400RS is just not worth it for them, you get what I mean. Gone continue grinding ranked but not gonna love it lol, no pain no gain type shit

[wild verge]

game fell off 🤣🤣🤣🤣 https://imgur.com/a/5KmVApn

[rugged temple]

Can Christmas come early with a model nerf tmr 🥺

[main copper]

Should duel blades be able to deflect when attacking? Or should it deal damage when gets pulled out?(The animation looks like that)

[quick coyote]

Damn playing world tour made me realize like a huge amount of pc players are cheaters tracking people through walls, or just shooting through shrubs with no visuals on anybody. Honestly I wish I could play in PlayStation and Xbox only lobby's. Shits annoying, I gave up on rank btw that's why I'm silver I got to plat, then kept getting afk teammates or people that would leave. Then id loose enough RS to go to gold 4 then played with friends that didn't go very well so I said f it. I solo qued to plat, also going up against Ruby players in plat lobby's was lame asf and a complete vibe killer.

[mental blaze]

I think mediums should have a timer before being able to use their defib after being defibed

[fleet socket]

Yess been preaching about making it go on a 50% - 80% CD whenever you get defib to stop instantly defib chain

[frank holly]

What if they just removed defib and instead, the heal beam could just heal your dead teammates statues for 3 seconds to revive them, then instantly go on cooldown. Then embark could just adjust the time it takes depending on how good it is or not.

[quaint forge]

Thanks for the fucking matchmaking, just lost so much rp by matching my gold teammates with diamond smurfs

[waxen grove]

There's something going in EMBARK. No way it's the same team as in S1 and 2. For two whole seasons we haven't had any events or good community challenges. Not even as much livestreams as in previous seasons.

[quick coyote]

That's what I'm saying, I think they're giving up on the finals and working only on arc raiders

[versed hazel]

Delete Kyoto

[vapid inlet]

Fix the anti cheat ffs

[plush fjord]

And they made it a PvPvE Extraction shooter instead of a Co-op helldivers-like shooter so they should know its not going anywhere

This season they didnt even bring any gamemodes, no gadgets and specs, and three 5-6 page sponsor tiers dont really make a differnce, they make 5 times more cosmetics in a whole season

[dry plover]

Embark Rework Revolver please

[fleet socket]

Buff meteor event or rework the achievement to bounce any game event projectile

[half briar]

Change my mind: these maps weren't designed for balanced long range weapons, and the Power Shift will always suffer because of it.

Edit 1: @runic root fair enough, but even cashout to a degree. It's to easy to get ridiculously far sightlines with these rooftops literally everywhere

[runic root]

@half briar the maps were designed for cashout not powershift

[maiden thunder]

something needs to be done with the games audio issues. lot of the time you dont hear a whole ass heavy run up on you till you get blasted

[rough herald]

GAVE DASH A QALOTY OF LIFE CHANGE PLS

its so frustrating that my dash dosn't go where i want it to go 20% of the time
why dose it have an input delay???????????????
and make it go faster pls, me dying mid dash should not be so god damn common
make it start at full speed and slow down

[mortal notch]

id rather drink paint stripper throw up and watch it dry than play this game rn. please just nerf model today

[unreal zodiac]

please fix the right click hitbox disappearing around wall barricade and goo I will cry

[brittle obsidian]

Add more gadgets please. OP gadgets are far safer to add than OP weapons, since gadgets need to contend with 2 other gadgets in terms of utility and power. OP weapons on the other hand don't because you only get one and their primary function is usually the same (killing people). Season 2's gadgets became some of my favorites in the whole game, because they play into the sandboxy nature of THE FINALS and allow for completely unique plays. I'd love a season that doesn't have any weapons and just has 4 new gadgets for every build.

[faint sundial]

I love this game and have stuck with it since open beta but like how the actual fck am I supposed to get the emerald rewards when I work a full time job and have responsibilities of living on my own and a vast majority of the time I have to solo queue with teammates who have zero communication, coordination or brain cells? Meanwhile the hit registers are behaving like absolute dog water and the input lag is still ridiculous asf for some of the gadgets/abilities

I have about 2-3 hours a day max to play (and that's pushing it) most days, and right now I need to average 62 points a day to get from where I am in diamond 3 to emerald 1, which means I have to WIN 3 WT tournaments per day, and with the available time I have that basically means I have to do nothing but win every queue which is literally impossible

strategies to improve player time engagement are all well and good until all it's doing is making the loyalist player base spend all their available time trying to grind for stuff and STILL NOT HAVING IT PAY OFF

[devout elm]

Make class specific queues(please embark im done getting queued with 2 93r thermal bore, tracking dart, dash lights)

[red echo]

chill bro prob happened once , i can gaurantee never happened to 99% of us

[dry kiln]

Nothing but a bunch on entitled kids complaining and expressing opinion. with all these memes. It's a feedback channel not 4chan. Give feedback. Holyhell

[autumn sedge]

Id rather all the toxicity spill into this channel that's already full of hate then the others. Its a shooter game, where someone has to win and someone has to lose, and people often get mad when they lose and try to find their own "solutions" that are (usually) not actually based on any ration

[lost talon]

"ranked score" is a bad name

[waxen grove]

Yeah, there collecting some money to work on arc raiders

[fresh ibex]

Embark should allow nine total pre-set contestants instead of eight so we can have three of each class.

[round goblet]

Server died on my 2nd round Promotion Match, oh dear lord. Im stuck here for 8 min now. Edit: Now I got a 15 min suspension, Embark? Hello im 4 points away being Emerald 1 and won 1 round and I got a suspension 2nd round when your servers died in Asia??????????????????????????

[sharp bolt]

they don't care , instead you'll get a store update and more things to buy

[lethal perch]

Hey, do you think it would be possible to apply a 4K 60FPS RT mode and a 1440p 120FPS with low RT mode patch on consoles ?
I mean, I have a PS5 equivalent laptop and it easily holds max graphics with max RT around 100 FPS in 1080p.

[thick sorrel]

The Finals Shotguns Leaked Patch Notes 5.0.0

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added
• ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... it still 2 shots Lights at 15m😂
  **Real Fix: 2-Shots Lights and 3-Shots Heavys, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Defibrillated Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not Alan enough.

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Hulk Smash
  Dev Note: We thought it fits better the damage level - usually used after RPG for a free kill.

Dual Blades

• Decreased Blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

[vapid drum]

Embark please revolver rework

[lethal perch]

The PS5 and the Series X can both hold AMD FSR so it wouldn't be hard to optimise at all...

[valid ember]

do they have amd GC's?

[fleet socket]

Could we make meteor event last longer? I died right before the event started and it ended with 4 seconds left till I could coin. I shouldn't have to quit games cause it's not meteor shower for that match just so I don't waste time going for an achievement about an event that can't last a minute

[cerulean flower]

Please do something about smurfing.. having someone with level 1 do 13 kills and them basically having every stat much higher than all other team members is kinda sus man

[quick stag]

Throw in some kind of breaching tool for mediums maybe? They're the only class without a way to destroy walls

(Dematerialiser doesn't count. Walls come back, it leaves an effect, and it takes up the specialisation slot)

[cosmic narwhal]

day 23 of asking for a ready up button

[faint saddle]

Embark doesn’t want every class to be able to do everything, that’s why they removed recon abilities from Medium.

Heavies have protection, Lights have stealth and lethality.

Medium has support and mobility, they are not supposed to have a destruction gadget.

Also, grenades and red barrels exist.

[wind meteor]

^ what I ve saying since day 1, but I feel sorry for whoever has to go through the channel at Embark ❤️

[torpid sky]

i had a wet dream last night, i saw model nerf in the patch notes

[broken herald]

buff model1887 🤡

[upper granite]

Reveal emerald skin rewards at DAY 1 OF THE SEASON, thank you

[misty jasper]

yall spamming noobs got what yall wanted and absolutely KILLED the model. time to complain about the next "op" weapon.

[keen shard]

I mean, it only changed ttk against medium class

[signal basin]

117 dmg it's kill ? Just because you 3 shot a M ? You still annihilate a L and win a bullet. That's stupid

[candid epoch]

Model was creating a stale meta? And it's a stupidly small nerf

[modest root]

Nerf 93R

[lament surge]

Why make a good nerf on the model and basically throw it away by adding another pallet? just nerf from 16 to 13 and keep 8

[autumn sedge]

Christmas wishlist from Embark:
-buff 93r

thank you for coming to my presentation, that will be all

[lime lichen]

Now we just need to nerf the fucking m11 and remove stun gun

[wind meteor]

This goes to show that the model is very balanced as it is, and any change to it would break it, and the devs now this. So stop complaining naggers. I rarely die against a model with my AKM. The shot count to kill cannot be messed with, since the weapon has the slowest fire rate in the game. If high elo are using it, it's because, and now more than before, it requires skills. Those same people can annihilate you with the light's double barrel, which can 2 shot a heavy and now one is complaining about. SKILL ISSUE MY GUYS

[echo bronze]

I'd love it if we could get detailed player stats. Things like kills with each weapon/skill, accuracy with each weapon, etc.

[vapid drum]

Rework Revolver please

[south wadi]

The new Eclipse Shade CL-40 should not be a legendary skin, it barely changes from the base model, 3 shells and one wire, for 800 credits....

[cerulean flower]

Gas really needs improvements for its look while in thermal vision on Lights ... like bro... how can it be that you'll accidentally run into gas and die from it simply because it wasnt visible enough

[brave dagger]

Hope we are gonna see some juicy buffs to the weaker stuff in S5. I think most weapons are in a pretty good spot with their niches, but a few just are kinda sucky. Like spear, dual blades and 93R.
Some deserve minor buffs imo like the Revolver, m26 matter and KS23. Probably a little rework on the FCAR would be nice to give it a bit more identity.
Theres also some good suggestions by the community for the dagger. Also I think the Cl40 got gutted a bit too hard. Id rather see its selfdamage allong the lines of 1x or 1.2x instead of 1.6. It was a bit toxic, but now its quite useless again.

Most weapons that need minor buffs usually dont need damage adjustments, but more some secondary thing to make it more attractive towards its counterparts and make it stand out more and have a place in teamcomps / meta.

[faint saddle]

I like the nerf (dagger onetrick i dont play model)

it now deals only 117 dmg which is ok to begin with 104 would have been a hefy nerf

nontheless like to see the nerfs

[bleak fern]

this game went to crap the second they started listening to light players

[gaunt condor]

👏

[hazy shore]

🧢

[ruby yoke]

Whats with the estimated game search how long are you guys waiting to join a game?

[dense ocean]

day 71 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[timid fox]

Just want to say they need to add a little bit of extra confirmation or something for backing out of the report menu on console, I hit report on one player, and then I thought for a second I should double check that I selected the right player, so I hit B, but instead of going back to the scoreboard it dumped me out into the main menu. Better post game ux plssss

[lethal perch]

I think it could be great to apply a 4K 60FPS RT mode and a 1440p 120FPS with low RT mode patch on consoles ?
I mean, I have a PS5 equivalent laptop and it easily holds max graphics with max RT around 100 FPS in 1080p.
Also, the PS5 and the Series X can both hold AMD FSR so it wouldn't be hard to optimise at all...

[sterile patrol]

I dunno about you guys but in every second game I see people through the walls, like S1 recon ability, I see one or sometimes all of the teams from hundreds of meters away, and I'm able to ping them through the walls!!! I dunno if everyone in the lobby is experiencing this or it's just my team... Please fix this!! I can send u a video later.

[regal stratus]

This game needs to start buffing weak weapons (93r, xp54 (it honestly kinda lost its identity but idk i don't see anyone using it anymore or rarely use it), dual blades, etc. Right now it's just either for Medium: model, akm, fcar or famas (kinda); Light is M11, DB; Heavy: ??? i dont even know it's little bit hard to find heavies now in my games its just mostly mediums with a 1/3 games a light. So please embark buff some of the weak weapons give it an identity but thats just my opinion

@scarlet cosmos 100percent agree on that

[fringe heron]

nerf flamethrower this weapon has a lot of fuel, it's terrible to play against players who only use that, whether with a light medium or heavy class, reduce the damage, cut the fuel, increase the reload time, but do something about this weapon, it It's very broken

[scarlet cosmos]

A lot of weapons need absolute rebalancing, there's weapons that are obviously a superior choice to others because their identity as a whole has just been overshadowed by the strength and utility other weapons provide. Pike on release was a great example of it being an exact 1:1 upgrade to the revolver, or the abundantly dominant medium shotgun working even at medium ranges. Don't just nerf things, change how they work, buff, otherwise you'll end up with half baked weapons with no use.

[long arrow]

+1
Add music soundtracks since Season 1 WE Can choice for :
-Lobby
-Matchmaking
-win/loose

• Favorite soundtracks/randomisation
  +Bring black ranked progression with arrow cause SR win/loose dont have sens instead placement & dont take count or others ranks ,objective & individual performances.
  +Fix Matchmaking, WE want a game when 3 players are in lobby & not 2v3v3v3 its cringe & WE are not asking a solo vs squad mode like fortnite , 2nd mate gonna just leave cause no gonna loose time & mentality, understand him , then 1v3v3v3 & still loose SR cause ranked dont take count about anything, just take count or SR fixed before the game starting , all will happen in game u Can carry ....u will just win the SR the game set to you.

+UP rocket heavy damage to enemy, so long to recharge & this weapon make less damage than a explosive mine..... Its a rocket....& I want just j'installe when i sée thé rocket Can kill myself ingame its not logik

+Explosive charge for light & heavy 1 --> 2

+Kyoto full bugued & make my game crash its fun
Just remove & rework this Map who destroy out devices.

Others ideas: snows ❄️ items who Can slow us , gas/gaz weapon , karambit skin for light knife.

[manic pebble]

xp54 probably doesnt need touching too much if at all. its still very very good

[clear niche]

Embark be like:

make it make sense

[maiden shell]

dear embark, the hitbox for spear special attack sucks, anything inches above me or below me the attacks wont hit, even enemies right next to me the third attack wont connect. third sweep is also too slow to come out.

[quick stag]

Yeah. That's a flawless point. I think they could do a better job of conveying it maybe like categorising gadgets so you can clearly see the differences between classes.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the idea is:

• Medium = Support
• Heavy = Offense/Defense
• Light = Flanking

Right?

[stuck sentinel]

💀

[waxen grove]

Agree. If we dont use meta loadouts we are in a big disadvantage. They should stop buffing and nerfing back and forth weapons, gadgets and abilitys so that we could create our own uniqe loadout and play style.but at the same time they're favoring two most used classes so i dont know

[mental sky]

Numbers weren't adding up I guess, but as a whole the damage was reduced

[jolly glade]

An orbital strike grenade would be cool. Throw the grenade and spawn an orbital strike after a few seconds.

[torpid sky]

🤡

[vapid drum]

Embark Please Rework Revolver

[exotic vector]

I was waiting until double xp announcement with hope that it will be 400% of daily contracts. To be honest , this season battle pass has great reward , but the grind…I have bought bp and lvls from 75 to 100 just to find out that for each lvl after 100 I need 100k xp! I have all contract completed and I am sitting on lvl 104 with still 600k xp to be earned. Really not feasible to casually play the game if you play every other day, for 2-3 hours you would not be able to complete BP. Hope for more xp last week.

[mighty cedar]

Who couldve guessed, another nerf to medium.

L update

[tired fable]

model nerf is W

[formal sphinx]

Please can you get rid of the coloured halo around opposition players? Skill shouldn’t need neon signs.

[unique cedar]

overall dmg was reduced by 11(117 now vs 128 before), more pellets means harder to hit all at range so its nerf. they just dont want nerf it to the ground for now

[proper geode]

Game developers hope you have chance to watch this .. he is one of the most experienced ranked sword players so i think needs his voice to be heard.

please this is not a self promoting video , i know this subreddit is against sharing YouTube videos but this is just for discussion and as a well experienced player he has good points. https://youtu.be/QsuVsyKawV4?si=tIfIWoMkccCpjPrl

[wind meteor]

Adding a jukebox has already been confirmed by the devs, and is planed to be released asap. (please guys stop requesting the same things)

Progression with arrows was strongly opposed by the community and was stated as confusing and not making sense. So I think you are in the minority on this one.

The RPG is intended to be used as a structural damage weapon primarily. Dealing a bunch of damage to a team is a secondary use and a bit more controllable than and less avoidable than a grenade, and not to be compared with a static mine.

[waxen citrus]

Still no HUD bounds. It’s really not that hard to add lol, come on Embark

[cosmic cloud]

Uhh... maybe the game should have loss forgiveness when the game crashes and is forced to update... just a thought. Losing 1500 RS really hurts.

[cerulean flower]

New patch made performance tank again for me...no wonder if y'all are reseting the video settings...come on

[night glen]

Very true. This challenge would have been fine when there was enough time to complete it. But unless you play Tournament style there is not enough time without playing HOURS each day. I just want to know why and how the challenges are picked.

[hazy shore]

the amount of cry babies really killed the sword. sad to see such a cool weapon nerfed when there are so many base counters in the game to it in the first place

[zealous mural]

the dailys bonus should be x10, considering how stupidly grindy this season is.

[eager shard]

balance the weapons already its s4

[merry burrow]

Please add a clan/guild/permanent group system, please!

[stray vapor]

Please make advertisement video on YouTube, I'm bored as fk looking at Valorant ads all the time and I don't even play that game. Please draw in more players by setting up a lot of ads.

[regal stratus]

Honeslty YES, I aint a sword user but i respect them, the thing i love about the finals is that its so unique of a game adding daggers, swords, spears etc in a heavy gun game but still making it viable is genius, and the fact that there are many counters to the sword but people still continue to complain about it is crazy to me, sword users respect my range knowing i can kill them and i respect them know they can kill me equally as fast if im within their range and if im not using a model or a glitch thats on me, thats my fault, so please bring back the sword and other melee weapons that were weak before this game becomes another cod or similar.

The Finals has so much potential with these unique albeit some weapons are really really strong and over shadowing most of the weapons, the playstyle in the finals is so much fun. And at 11:20 he said revert it back to season 3 which is pretty fair. The season 4 buff was not needed sword was in a nice place, high risk high reward for it but now it's just a high risk = maybe a reward.
Again i ain't a sword player at all but it is what makes this game interesting to me the different playstyles each player can come up with and just have fun with it. Heck the goo gun didn't need that goo ship nerf it was a FUN thing to do.

This game has become slowly less and less fun for a lot players if I may speak, and more of whats the next meta weapon i can use to dominate everyone ( maybe that is fun for some i guess), Embark you have something special in this game that no game has at all, don't F it up with bad balancing

@stray vapor problem is players that do get draw into the game just gets matched with emerald players and basically can't play the game, and just straight leave ( they don't learn they don't get to fight they just die and that's it) it ain't fun fighting a team filled with some of the most experienced players or scripters or hackers when a new player just joins in

[mental sky]

Nah bro don't talk again

[outer quarry]

My main complaints with Finals are mostly balancing or map favoritism. With maps please stop making me play Kyoto and Synth, I hate both with a burning passion. I don’t have fun on either whatsoever. With balancing my main complaint is with QC, if you’re actively stealing a cash out when a team is about to win it should go into OT like Powershift. Only when you’re actively stealing though, I’d have a lot more dubs or longer matches if that were the case. Other than that I’d just say certain weapons and equipment should be nerfed or buffed. I can live without those though just cause weekly updates usually changes stuff like that for better or worse. Main 2 points are map frequency and the OT for QC.

[echo arch]

THEY LEGIT DONT KNOW HOW TO NERF MODEL 😂 im still mapping kids! Doing 11 less damage isnt a nerf! Cut the damn range in half.

[mortal notch]

The main problem with model is not the range
I personally don’t mind the range and I think it creates a fun dynamic as a mid ranged shotgun as it does about 60dmg on a perfect 20ish m shot
But being able to 2 shot meds and 3 shot heavy’s is the problem imo it needs to do 115 not 117
But at least embark pulled out the brainworms for this patch

[red arch]

3 layer floating platforms would be cool

[thorny blade]

DONT MAKE GAME LOOSE

SLOW TTK MAKES GAME BAD

[proper geode]

yes that is what we mean , it should not be overpowered but balance changes should not make a weapon non-fun to play. currently it is quite frustrating to play the pace of the sword play feels awkward . it doesnt require a major rework just make it fluent and fun to play. i totally agree over the goo ship nerf , why they removed it , i havent seen anyone complaining about it? it is literally devs are shooting their feet with a revolver. these type of glitches and techs are the real thing that makes this game interesting. show good ship video to a cod player im sure he will be quite interested to try the game.

[covert dock]

Even with xp boost i cant earn 450k exp for bp 🫠

[fervent coral]

ngl this was more of a slap on the wrist to the model especially with making it 9 instead of keeping it 8 so its still gonna be meta til otherwise

[fallow idol]

Stop nerfing.

[wind meteor]

admidetly this battle pass is harder than the previous one, and with shorter time than last season. But I just still need 150K xp, and I still have iseul-t contracts. So I feel like the battle pass is, as it was meant to be, a contract between the player and the game to play everyday just enough, which, for me, came down to 1.5-2h a day. That being said, the BP is completely refunded before reaching the last two pages of it. So, yeah you might miss on a few skins, but at least you're not losing any money invested.

[burnt mauve]

A weapons ballence change depends on its real level,if other weapon got nerfed,then the one didn't got nerf will be brighter among players but it doesn't mean it is op,it means somthing wrong with whole.ballence

[neat shell]

Since all faces have different voices, i think there should be a voice preview in the face section.

[mighty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/king-silence-peasant-prince-gif-4815242262647745421

L update

[dusky apex]

great update more of these please

[mental sky]

Yeah just seoul out of bounds atp

[mild veldt]

450k is still possible, if you do all dalies starting now to the end of the season you will have 225k of exp (it's in total 15.000 if you complete all dalies, just multiply it for 15 days). There's also another circuit coming which will also help with exp gain + fans.

You're getting 50% more of fans and exp each game, so if you spam the fuck out Bank It (even if you loose, as long as you bank alot of money yorur gains are still ridiculosuly good) you will most likely achieve your meta! 😉

[broken citrus]

Remove visual recoil please

[gilded dagger]

Devs are being weirdly stingy with battle pass items as if we didn't pay real money for the BP. I'm going back to being a free to play player for this game. Embark has killed all the good will I had towards them

[quick stag]

I mean the free battle pass is very generous already compared to most.

[fervent tiger]

Anyone else got matchmaking overload?

[somber axle]

Game cant find match pls fix

[shadow cairn]

yup

[plain patio]

casnt find match

[smoky sluice]

@versed hazel +1

[ember flax]

Error code MFMR0008 what does that mean

[peak wagon]

I really wanna see world tour start having team wipe penalties again, it’s so lame cashing out a ton of money with everyone and nobody catches any penalty for getting wiped imo. It really wasn’t a bad mechanic too

[red echo]

XDDDDDDDD BIGGEST CAP

[versed hazel]

I think deleting Kyoto will fix the error code that everyone is experiencing

[feral bay]

Was playing fine for me too until this minute. Matchmaking failed. Maybe server issues

[wooden kelp]

On a coding side probably tough or maybe too much work but come onnnnn please make us wear the skates and skate around when running 😅🤣

Id actually pay for that skin just so I can do "skate by kills" 😂🤣

[proven crown]

Buff light by making the use of gadgets faster. Often I'll goo myself off but die just before the goo expands for example. So I think overhand and underhand throwing, as well as switching from weapon to gadget should be faster for lights

[cedar wadi]

Buff model

[plush shell]

Sword: nerfed
Hammer: nerfed
Model: nerfed
Dome: nerfed
Mesh: nerfed
XP54: nerfed
FCAR: nerfed
Let's just nerf everything!!!

[zenith gyro]

Hahahha

[lunar halo]

Anyone getting the matchmaking overloaded screen?

[quick coyote]

yup

[spiral berry]

нгз

[upper citrus]

Good thing you can be a f2p player and still purchase every single future battlepass because of the first one you bought.

You know, cause embark is greedy and all that

[acoustic quail]

problems with searching games. West Europe !!!

[real aspen]

is the servers go down ?

[thorny lynx]

So model got an entire 9dmg nerf? So now it will act MORE like a shotgun? Let's see how how this goes.....

[solemn sedge]

Buff fcar and xp-45. Add more progression skins. Otherwise game is very balanced rn thx embark

[robust patio]

not a gun

[abstract rapids]

what are you waffling about

[ashen sorrel]

i think fcar is pretty balanced rn but the xp needs buffs badly

[quick coyote]

fcar is balanced, xp sadly been crippled lol

idk how they gonna buff it tho qithout just returning it to its og self

[flint prawn]

Please add HUD opacity slider for oled owners to help mitigate risk of burn in

[tardy trench]

Anyone know what happened to the community event i thought we had 2 days left i had just checked yesterday so we should've had all of today to finish it ngl i kinda feel like we were cheated out of a free upper body after all of last minute cashout steals that my self alongside many other put alot of time into 😔

[wraith orchid]

so you tell me that you nerf the model by canging ONLY the ttk of mediums WHICH ARE BY FAR THE MOST OP CLASS and you buff the dispertion/range simultaniousley XXXXXXXD give me some of that shit PLLLLLLLLS

[cursive thorn]

Yeah man the community event kind of felt impossible because of the matchmaking Wait times

[vocal turret]

We had 2 days and we were close to accomplishing it

[unreal stag]

Add team options to the custom games, maybe re add Solo bankit as its great for Deathmatch games and make team balancing a thing please. when playing with 3 you get a 2v1v0 instead of a 1v1v1 and its honestly just annoying if you cant make fair matches

[tulip steppe]

Now it's time to nerf the m11. There's no reason the ttk should be that fast

[zealous mural]

man what the actual fuck is this season. to get my rewards i have to live in this fucking game, feels like 2nd work....... why would they change the grind so much, so fucking cringe, i'm so burned out of this game now....

[maiden shell]

I think almost ALL light weapons should be nerfed because for a class that has unmatched mobility, it should work better as an harasser/scout/flanker class and have buffs to the class as a whole to reflect that such as moving 33% faster and having 200 health(maybe?). The damage it has is a crutch for not having satisfying or impactful gadgets/utilities

[dapper rune]

do we know what happened to the event then? it just disappeared?

[warm sentinel]

Nerf dual .50 cal.

[drowsy pilot]

the model should go back too normal it is terrible now

[gusty cosmos]

why is everyone crying about the model? the famas is way more broken. its gonna be even more of a problem now since every brain dead medium is gonna run it

[simple quiver]

Does the finals team understand that constantly nerfing isn't great? How about buffing bad weapons instead
https://youtube.com/shorts/y5CjhzyIZio?si=WkyuBWYk-JaHdai3

[mighty cedar]

The light Bias with these devs is incredible

[analog breach]

My God, even with this bonus on fan XP, you won't be able to reach the maximum level, sorry, I have to dedicate my life to the game instead of just using it to achieve the objectives.

[limpid rampart]

mag size increase or considerable reload time reduction

[quick coyote]

i like the sound of the mag increase

[sand hazel]

hm our predatory practices and poor balances are really effecting our game how do we fix this? more nerfs! -embark probably

[faint saddle]

Fcar is NOT balanced, it has NOT A SINGULAR UPSIDE to the AKM, i still play fcar over AKM but fcar is bad has a worse ttk less bullets and no advantage whatsoever dont speak if you dont know the numbers

[upper citrus]

This guy is cool but this take is horrible, especially when applied to the finals and ESPECIALLY the model.

The model is meta not because of nerfs but because it is fundamentally overpowered on the medium class. The entire medium class is dependent on keeping enemies away from your team by making your team hard to push with healing and quick revives.

What happens when you put an insanely strong shotgun on top of a class that’s supposed to be countered by closing the gap? It instantly becomes meta. More buffs won’t fix this, buffing anything else on medium to be comparable to model will just make that design issue worse.

Do some things need buffs? Yes absolutely. Buff fcar to 23 damage and buff AKM to 40 bullets. But model will stay on top as long as it breaks the core design of the class. Buffing weapons to be better than something that’s fundamentally game breaking for a class is how you create a poorly designed game with no depth

[vital knot]

X SAL ON TOP

[shadow scarab]

Model is not overpowered. The problem is that if someone can land shots consistently it’s good. I actually thought it was pretty balanced compared to other classes.

[distant fern]

Embark needs to give us bigger XP boosts like the one at the end of season 2. This XP Matsuri won't help people finish the 1M XP bonus pages, which requires nearly the same amount of XP as the first 96 tiers.

Or instead of these grindy bonus pages, give us more events instead. Events are a better way for player retention than this unhealthy, anti-casual XP grind BS. People shouldn't be punished for focusing on real-life responsibilities, especially when they've paid money so that Embark could have food on their table.

If I feel like the game doesn't respect my time then I'll stop spending money, or stop playing the game.

[quick rampart]

lmfao

[mild veldt]

Just spamm bank it, it will give you a considerable amount of exep even if you loose. Plus you already have garanteed 225k exp if you do all dailies until the end of the season AND there's still one more circuit to go.

I'm not saying it's abused though, it's more is the only mode where the gains seems to be good enough considering the time investiments. I tried to play powershift and the exp and fans gains were atrocious, plus it's a full 15 minute match. Where bank it is much faster and easier to just do well.

@native berry

[native berry]

as much as i dont play bank it, you're implying that bank it is the mode being abused for xp grinding and earning xp rather than other modes?

i might be doing a bad take here but yeah

[cursive elm]

agreed

[split ermine]

thats the problem I Have with challenges and BPs per se. It just forces you to play the game a way you dont want to play. I also find the needed XP grind way too much.
I understand that they need player retention but I hate the use of FOMO. That goes for all games nowadays imo it should be illegal. And battle passes should be removed from the gaming world.
But yea staying on the topic of the finals the needed XP to finish the bonusPages is too much. I play almost everyday for about 1 hour and I am on the verge of completing the 2nd item of the 1st bonus page. (Yes I do all the dailys and challenges even tho I dont like challenges)

[mortal notch]

Copper 9 ah opinion ngl

[rich kayak]

fr hahaha

[burnt notch]

If ur not able to take advantage of the double xp to complete it that’s on u

[pastel sundial]

Please filter out what's coming up here and listen to it.

These guys here are twits who cry " 000 is OP" if they lose.
They're stupid people like want to win guns with knife or sword from far away. Ha, do they want to let them shoot a bullet with your sword?
To be honest, I doubt that they even play the game properly.

A patch that only nerf will make the game sick.
There are a lot of precedents like Helldivers and so on. I, and other players don't want to watch the same situations.

There is no correct answer to the patch, but at least this direction is a definite wrong answer.

[stoic shale]

What if we had a melee only game mode? I think that’d be pretty cool

[foggy nymph]

Its not double, it's (up to) 1.5x EXP now.

Pretty sure you only get the full boost from playing world tour or comp.

Casual modes like bank-it or power shift only give like 1.2x, which isn't much when grinding for millions of XP in the last days.

[kindred current]

I want peek & fire feature and a kill cam in the game, also a footstep indicator will be nice, and it's better if you give us a volume control for footsteps and please separate the sound of effects from master volume. Also give medium some gud weapon that's easy to aim with and please give light some more health, they just for like woosh 😅, please take 50HP form heavy and donate it to light.

Guys who agree Vote with ❤️
Who don't agree Vote with 👀

[elfin dock]

Ok embark at this point make some weapon fun to use u guys fucking nerfed everything at this point no weapon feels like usable like add 4 bullets to akm mag or maybe reduce recoil from fcar maybe xp 54 damage xp 54 cant even kill heavy with 40 bullets even if u aim correctly because of weird hitbox stuff

[keen lily]

holy shit model nerfed FINALLY

[low depot]

after the update i keep on crashing ,anyone else?

[brisk juniper]

Hello Embark! Love the savage spots sets and swift stripes. Any chance we could get a skirt with the same patterns?

[serene ledge]

Something that I feel makes an arena more intense is frequent commentary (already pleasantly done by Scotty and June) and an interactive audience. I think it would be cool to hear more chants in different variations from the crowd (also much louder please it's hard to hear sometimes). It makes the player feel more engaged with what's at stake in the game. Also, I honestly think a unique background beat for each map would be nice as well. It could be turned on/off in settings if you do or do not want to hear it, but a nice ambient/intense soundtrack for each map could be cool to see in the future.

[languid valley]

Please remove weapon inaccuracy when ADS-ed and standing still/crouching.
Not sure why I'm being punished for aiming well at longer ranges.

[smoky sluice]

Did they just buff model 🤨🤨🤨🤨

[drowsy pilot]

FRRR

[plush fjord]

damn i feel like the game is almost balanced now. model finally got nerfed.
just gotta fix the sword dash broken combo, goofy ahh dagger hit reg, cloak, m11, defib problem, and we're set.

tho we should revert the mesh nerf and get dome shield back to lke maximum 7 secs, but more than that would be problematic ig

Edit: I forgot we need an FCAR buff sorry, that one's top priority

[maiden shell]

Glitch grenade completely ruining a full health mesh is stupid. At the very least it should remove mesh but leave me and my teams gadgets alone

[echo urchin]

Is there a “share your most brain dead take” competition going on this morning that I’m not aware of?

[versed sorrel]

This, ttk is pretty comparable to Medium's other weapons. And you need to land every shot with all pellets to keep up.

High margin for error

[tidal lake]

Does anyone else feel like Rank It's unrewarding. If you use one match. It will take you at 2 to get back where you were before.

[jolly glade]

Add more events to shake up the game. Maybe something like Acid Rain, contestants take small chip damage when not under cover and exposed to the rain. Or idk high gravity or even fall damage. Just more events mid game to shake things up would be cool.

[shadow scarab]

Sword is broken right now there is no reason a standard attack should be longer than than the lounge. Also dagger has bigger reach than the sword right now lol

[small flint]

WhAT THE FUCK IS THIS MATCHMAKING!!! Who create this shiiit!

I’m getting lights with swords and mediums with Dual katanas and they have 0! ZERO game sense!

[spring marlin]

Retro Double barrel skin for the light

[mossy rose]

Embark, You are actual. So shit. Played since S1, and I'm through complaining this game dev just doesn't get it. They don't. The fault is mine, You can't invest or hope for a better game, and you vote for which devs you want to go far with your time and money and embark just ain't it. They have shown they can't implement good ideas, Your cheat detection team should be fired. You balance guns and make them worse, WTF is up with the new Model. GG

[placid elm]

The model was PERFECTLY balanced. They should have balanced weapons around the ttk of the model. Instead they chop heads off to nerd. Has anyone played with the new model? How does it feel?

[mortal notch]

The new model is fine? It’s range got buffed sufficiently and now does 60-80 dmg at 20m. Maybe you have to stop crunching on the most op gun in the game to get to silver
Also anyone saying they should of balanced around model that means old fcar old rpg etc etc

[analog breach]

totally ignored
it's hard to play a game when you're working on a 6x1 scale, I just want to have some fun before I get some rest before going back to work

[quick coyote]

I'd prefer they chopped it off dude shotguns only was getting annoying bro this balance did nothing it still basically one taps a light

Never mind embark y'all cooked🧑‍🍳

[copper lark]

Heavy at high elo is extremely dominated by SA1216, would be nice to see more options being picked, removing bloom on ks23, removing deagle bloom, nerfing range and buffing dmg or rof on lmgs could allow for more options to be picked. I don't wanna see the class turn into a long range class but we do need more options other than just sa1216

[celest forum]

Marvel Rivals is coming out and is getting a lot of hype.
I'm hoping season 5 will be a big hit.
New maps/ weapons/ gadgets of course.
But I'm hoping for a new game mode and the "clans" you guys teased and a good Christmas Event/ LTM.
please don't nerf a heavy specialization into the ground again

[versed hazel]

why is the matchmaking so horrific after the patch?

[quaint forge]

Love ur content bro

[prisma holly]

Everyone who replies to this message thinks riot shield needs a nerf.

[uneven dagger]

Flamethrower stinks unless you’re a light that keeps getting up close to them

[woeful arch]

I like that we can now see a count of how many players are on the Power Shift platform, appreciate it devs

[brisk tangle]

Well, Model was nerfed, let's see what the community wants to be nerfed next 💜✨

[pale perch]

Flamethrower is such a bad weapon btw

[lost talon]

again, delete the game if you're unironically asking for a flamethrower nerf

[acoustic quail]

why is the netcode so bad in this game. pls give us a answer. did we play with 40hz server? it feels like it. give us ping statistics or graphs to get a better overview about our enemys or my team.

[proven parcel]

Eclipse shade cl40 before lh1 is crazy 😭😭😭

[magic sigil]

I speak for everyone when I say that we should bring back the original (You Wouldn't Be Here) Without Us from the S1 lobby when the jukebox is introduced ‼️

[spring marlin]

Flamethrower buff it has no range bro it takes 3 steps back and the light is out of my range

[slender walrus]

Definitely no double xp for daily even though update says so… and your challenges don’t work on any game mode even when the challenge says it does

[mild veldt]

It IS double xp for daily, it used to be 1500, now it's 3000.

[waxen grove]

Just checked the model in the firing range and its beautifully buffed tnx embark

[foggy nymph]

I love visiting game feedback after the black sheep weapon or gadget people have been begging to be nerfed finally does. Then you see everyone randomly accusing every other weapon of being the new OP thing that desperately needs nerfs, hoping to stir up a new frenzy on something that's probably fine.

[blissful bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/outerspacefrisbee-nerf-fingerguns-fingerbang-the-gif-22912778

[analog breach]

I want to play the Unbound update but I have to focus on this game to try to win the reward

[hasty rune]

day 15 of asking to remove kyoto from any world tour and ranked

[finite galleon]

It was not perfectly balanced get out bank it and play a real game mode. Model is still the best gun.

[upper citrus]

Heavy balance changes IMO

Nerf deagles range and buff hipfire spread a ton.

Buff mesh cooldown on both damage and no damage taken

Give winch claw a spin up animation and increase range. Also allow it to be blocked by shields.

Buff rpg damage to 140 and only allow it to be fired when fully ADS, nerf ADS time and buff reload speed. Add a red laser to the rpg so it’s well telegraphed.

Nerf charge damage and disable knocking teammates around with it.

Very slightly buff m60 RPM.

Give KS-23 a small destruction AOE to help with dropping cashouts seated on 2 chunks of destruction. Buff KS to 2 tap walls.

Allow free movement for allies in gravity cube, nerf its vertical distance, allow it to be placed on walls, and remove in air spread for allies when under the effects of gravity cube.

Make the motion sensor model a little bigger, make it take .5s for the spotting beam to attach, but have the spotted effect linger for 5s after being applied.

Allow barricade to have up to 10% of itself clip obstacles. And also be placed on walls

[marble hearth]

The sword needs to be buffed very slightly by increasing its length

[wraith orchid]

no the model ttk is too low. if they would balance around it, it would mean the sniper oneshots mediums on head, and i think NO ONE would enjoy this change. and i am saying this as someone that plays only and ONLY sniper.
sniper is the most balanced weapon in the game if you look at the stats (excluding hitscan range) and every weapon should be balanced around it.
and btw: hit and run is wayyy more powerfull than a weapon that deals damage over time, i think no one considers this when thinking about balance esp. with the model

[teal minnow]

now this. Delete this chat embark

[mortal notch]

Most braindead casual player holy shit

[versed hazel]

The only balance change this game has ever needed is a removal of Kyoto

[lost talon]

they will not be taking any of your suggestions thank you very much and they should add captchas to prevent people from typing monstrosities like adding a laser to the RPG. All heavy weapons are fine right now

[real wyvern]

We should get a peashooter skin set in the store. With the amount of nerfs that are given out, it will fit perfectly with the current community mindset.

[quick coyote]

I don't know what's going on with the skilled-based matchmaking, but it is a little frustrating. I feel like I keep getting pitted against teams of competent parties while only receiving teammates who not at my level or alternatively pitted against extremely high level teams while my team isn't good enough at the game to be able to compete.

I feel like the game could also benefit from some sort of karma system which would make it so that players who constantly quit or throw are paired with each other.

[woeful arch]

Only back to the game because of the XP boost, not because the game is fun anymore - it's sad. At this point I just want to complete the battle pass and the circuit within the limits of what's fun (so, excluding sniper objectives so far - why keep forcing them on us? Please stop doing that, let players play however they want.)

Please add at least one new game mode at launch of Season 5, if not Season 4 will be my last season with the game. It has become repetitive and boring, with too few game modes to play it's easy to get a sense of burnout.

[sand hazel]

your just wrong man. people flock to the next weapon because of the nerfs that is litterally it. everytime someone here starts crying about something to be nerfed its cause they nerfed the last one and now people are trying to find something that can keep up leading to a slog of the same weapon in every lobby. now its the famas id put good money on people starting to whine about it next since it has/had the same ttk as the prenerf model. you see a rise of the thing that the weapon countered because the counter to it isnt good anymore. this game needs serious reworks and buffs otherwise its going to die off real fast and just not be profitable enough for embark to upkeep

[steady breach]

I'm so fucking sad. Finally got to a final round with a really good team, and we pretty much dominated the last two rounds. Third round starts and then bam, black screen with rain sounds looping, It fucking crashed...

and then to add on the pain. I got suspended 10mins..

[fathom aurora]

just need to nerf Famas now, remove defib and heal beam, then remove med as well.. keep nerfing med just bc casual players cry about it every patch 👆

[bleak fern]

if you are gonna nerf model you should nerf sh1900 while your at it

[sharp acorn]

Based

[quick coyote]

Not a model in sight oh how beautiful also is anyone else lagging badly my network is insane yet I'm getting packet loss

[mild veldt]

Spamm bank it, do your dailies, commit to last circuit when it's available. This is the best you can do basically

[limpid rampart]

model nerf isnt that hard man

you can still kill a light in 30ms

how many times have you actually two tapped a medium

even HEAVY was pushed out of meta because of how lethal the SUPPORT class could be

personally i think the nerf to the model was minimal and its still usable. model was not touched from its original S1 values back when medium dropped with ALOT more lethality than it should have had. they've been working on it and the model was one of the last weapons that needed to be brought down. this was a long time coming.

760+ damage in one mag btw but everyone looks at TTK as the end all be all of weapon balancing

[ionic surge]

You are wrong.

Again, your statements are based on feelings or emotions. The Model 1887 weapon is fairly balanced and more balanced now. The Model has many cons (reload is bad, long range is bad, rate of fire is bad) than pros and the reason you are crying because don't want to admit it is an individual skill issue.

Comparing all other weapons, stats do matter, numbers don’t lie in the following link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ud7Rdl3AgMw9mmfDwW2LtDMnzZQ9IIhnqSE4ivsaMTs/edit

This really an individual skill issue. You need to practice more and work on your GAME SENSE skill.

[tepid summit]

bring back light knife

[upper citrus]

It really depends on the context. some things have absolutely been the result of this. m11 is being complained about a ton now even though its fine.

but the model is genuinely bad design that can be observed and analyzed. its not just cope. however, blanket nerfs arent going to fix the issue either, it needs a spread buff and a damage nerf to 108 so it has a place on medium as a pressure tool instead of a class breaking 1v1 winner that allows medium to frontline.

generally, these issues arent prevalent in casual modes because in depth class identities arent seen that much and well crafted team comps also arent seen that much outside of higher ranks. but the issue is EXTREMELY observable there. The ttk of the model is on par with the rifles which is a bad thing. the model should be killing slower than the rifles. it is a burst damage weapon that allows full movement during use and has no random spread or hipfire penalty. They cooked so hard with the m26 matter, it kills slower than the weapons that directly compete with it on light but its still just as viable as them because it fills a specific niche and role in team compositions. It's a terrible 1v1 tool but insanely strong in 3v3s. This is exactly how the model should be.

@ionic surge All of my statements are based on observable game design issues. If your only counterpoint is "you're emotional, look at ttk" i don't really feel like going much further. TTK should be longer for burst damage weapons. As for "skill issue" i havent played ranked in a month and a half and im still top 1k global. my lobbies are also filled with around 80% model 1887. saying its perfectly balanced is objectively incorrect.

[clever hawk]

Horribly 2D take in that video. It does not account whatsoever for power scaling.

A game is designed around an intended, desirable TTK/game flow and if current weapons/items exceed that they need to be brought down.

Buffing everything up to the level of busted things such as nukes, old SA12, old FCAR, old Pike, etc would create a horrible mess of a game in which TTK is closer to CoD than what is intended for this team-based, ability-inclusive game.

The power scaling has always been far too high in this game. RPG did 160 at release and nukes existed. Embark have taken a year to gradually lower this scale and the game is far better off for it.

[blissful bridge]

^^^THIS

[simple quiver]

I agree with that for the most part, like the rpgs, but they can't just keep nerfing and nerfing. It makes the gunplay feel worse in my opinion. It doesn't feel like they buff the weapons that need it like the 93r but instead nerf the new weapon people get attracted to.

[daring fossil]

how is the model changes a nerf? sure you lowered the damage slightly, but then you added another pellet and tightened the spread lol

[analog breach]

Thanks for the tip, I'm going to try this for a week and see how well it progresses, otherwise I'm going to abandon it for something that has fun, the stress is enough on a daily basis

[naive fable]

yeah whats the math on that wouldnt it be stronger

[gleaming lance]

Can no longer 2-shot mediums which was the main problem

[mortal notch]

your only counter is "your statements are based on feelings or emotions" everything you say from now is meaningless if you could put 2 and 2 together and remove your brainworms you could obseve how and why model is overturned. also high elo is 80-90% model and prob will still be around 40-60% so you saying "model is fairly balanced" is just wrong