👂┇game-feedback

[sand hazel]

im trying to its just a hell of a grind this season. its shorter and the pass requires more exp as well as now you have to grind for fans as well.

[red arch]

grinding for fans is just playing the game…?

i haven’t been playing every day but im done with both the BP and the sponsorship pages

[long arrow]

Pls bring back music in lobby ( for players who continue to play ofc)

[mild veldt]

It doesn't give alot, I mean, I play regularly and I still think I'm not going to finish by the end of the season.

It's fine if the goblins that plays long hours get everything fast, but at least let the casual player get it's things too I mean, c'mon!

[graceful cedar]

Hey, there’s one change to the UI a lot of people would like. It’s kinda hard to notice how much damage you’re taking, especially while fighting model users. A lot of the time you get hit for 128 and there’s hardly any damage indicator.

[smoky sluice]

2 weeks of model meta, cause they only do a real patch every 2 weeks, the other week is just skin 👍🏻

[granite agate]

I woke up in a new bugatti

[ember tusk]

holy shit there's alot of hackers now again.. Hopefully the people that are queing up with them also get banned.

[fleet panther]

Please allow players that achieved Ruby in Season 3 to receive the same new rewards that Season 4 Ruby players are set to receive (Ruby Background+Clavicle Badge).

S3 players still put in huge effort and time commitments and should get the same rewards.

[lethal gale]

Did embark fire their balance team?

[hybrid crystal]

Can’t find a world tour match on console rn

[pseudo leaf]

did you do the update

[crisp heart]

EMBARK, you have made multiple fixes for UI on aspect ratios greater than 16:9. THIS IS SO EXCITING!!!!! I HOPE THIS MEANS YOU ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO ULTRAWIDE FEEDBACK AND ARE SOON ADDING A HUD SAFE ZONE...! I WILL SPEND LOTS OF MONEY ON THE GAME AS A REWARD WHEN U ADD THIS HUD SAFE AREA, PLEASEEEE PLEASE ADD IT, I COULD KISS U EMBARK

[green barn]

Please add a ready mode in the lobby and give the ability to choose in the settings what music will play in the game (OST packs from the open beta and all seasons)

[sleek swan]

Movement is really simple in The Finals, we need more complex movement options.

Proposal for limited time mode:

• Movement is more similar to Quake / Source movement:
• Air strafing is a thing
• Bhopping is real.
• And for funsies a walljump.

[crisp vine]

😱

[toxic lagoon]

u guys should add native linux support

[rancid falcon]

the game aint playing ANY music man i even changed the volume but nothing

[fervent vortex]

All of these minus the wall jump are things in the game that get extreme value

[lilac coral]

So did they make any real changes or just add more skins

[radiant moat]

wall running would be dope

[daring fossil]

• Added a potential fix to audio issues that caused weapon sounds to loop or not make any sounds

4 weeks for a "potential fix" is crazy, but lets hope it works cuz if it isn't fixed im uninstalling

[pale grotto]

A way to test / preview a weapons features, eg. inspection animations, what noises and bullets used when a gun does fires, reloads and so on.

Mostly suggesting this because I'm curious to know what the Death by Rodent guitar inspect is, but I'd have to buy it to see. I bought the koi carp skins and the paintball GL (was disappointed the GL didn't leave a paint splat / coloured explosion).

[fervent hull]

you can see the new guitar animation in #💥┇spawn-point

[quick coyote]

Thanks embark for fixing a lot of issues that were actually bad, now that that's out the way can we get rid of visual recoil 😏 pleas embark i love you kiss kiss, i know weve had issues with greed in the past, but im willing to look past that if you delete visual recoil. MWAH MWAH KISS KISS

[polar blaze]

Did they fix the slide melee dash interaction? It seems like it works a lot better?

[strange solar]

icl somehow managed to escape them for the time being

[subtle oak]

Will the model ever get nerfed? Please

[remote zealot]

No music playing on main language lobby

[surreal meadow]

a singular wall skip, wall skip surface on new map, or a wall skip midgame event would do wonders

[fierce valve]

Id love to see Solo Bank it back to private matches and id love to see fortune stadium powershift map

[long arrow]

+1
add musics soundtracks choice in lobby , matchmaking & win pls at the same time !!!! :3

[pseudo leaf]

I don't know how but I am getting lower fps in kyoto in this patch.

[trim ginkgo]

When Will The Finals finally have a Collab I think its needed for next season at best

[radiant rain]

anyone else not having music in main lobby and in game?

[tiny ember]

Yes, i have no music too

[pale grotto]

You shouldn't have to go to a Discord or even youtube channel to find it. What if an item is only available through weapon customisation a few seasons down the line? There needs to be a bit more transparency when it comes to information in-game, that way a user can make a decision on whether they want to buy an item in game, there and then. "The fewer clicks the better" is a good thing for a game dev to go by.

All they'd need to do is make a mini video like the previews for seeing what certain Specialzations / Gadgets do.

On a similar note, a few of those previews need altering now that changes have been made. The turret still uses alpha / beta sounds by the sounds of it, there's no information about the APS losing health after blocking a projectile and how many times it can block, the gas grenade doesn't tick damage as fast as the preview does, and so on.
Again, transparency.

[royal mango]

Dear embark, what the hell happened to all the music???

[glossy geyser]

Is it possible to add a review feature so we can watch matches over again?

[radiant moat]

the gun looping sounds are still in the game

[proven crown]

I feel like lights should get a spidey senses passive that gives you grenade indicators

[wraith orchid]

i feel like the destruction system should get a rework bc while its fun to use it normally, there has never been a time in my life where i enjoyed a complete building collapsing. while its obviously not acceptable that this happens by just a few grenades and red barrels, i understand that true static is wanted game design but i still think that it shouldnt be as easy to make a whole building collapse even if its staticly correct

[sonic arrow]

Heavy gadget: Quick Stim, instantly restore 75 HP to user

[frail maple]

The First Descendant skin collab when? 🙂

[verbal bane]

As a fan of extreme metal I really just wanna say THANK YOU to the Embark team for this blackened thrash musician set. 🤘

Now please also return the 🤘 gesture to the store so I may purchase! 🙏

[brittle obsidian]

Model nerf coming season 7 pinky promise

[fast bear]

May this reach you safely and in good health Embark where's our music?

[cosmic narwhal]

look in game announcement

[long arrow]

PLS BRING BACK MUSIC & STOP START THE GAME WHEN THE MATCHMAKING ISNT FINISH , 2 TIME IN A ROW 2V3V3V3 IN TOURNAMENT BE LOGIK A MINIMUM EMBARK PLS PLS PLS

[muted jungle]

Big love for all the bug fixes and QOL this patch Embark 🧡 all the little things I've been hoping to see fixed were hit this patch. Now I'm just praying for one more nerf on the model and we'll be nice and cooked for a while 🫡

[jagged vector]

Guys there’s no point putting what you want from this game cause the developers clearly do not care about this game or what the player wants. We have been complaining about the model being overpowered and overused and needing a nerf, and yet they have not nerfed it after how many weekly updates. Just ran into a team with model, healing beam and defibs and got molly wopped. This game will die in the next year because of how little they care about the players it feels

[valid cradle]

REMOVE MELEE WEAPONS FROM THE GAME

[crimson ledge]

The second week in a row without any balancing changes. The map and the progression is what brought players back and you think it’s the balancing of the weapons. I get accessibility but not nerfing shotguns is not gonna solve it. XP doesn’t have any identity since nerf since you will always loose the firefights unless you have a massive advantage.

Every week the updates get more and more disappointing.

Also the skins have declined so much. Again goth and metal as if everyone playing this game is a 13 year old child in identity crisis.

I love the concept so much but the game is developing in such a bad direction.

Visual recoil, horrible spawns and a 0 sense SBMM makes it harder and harder to enjoy.

I play this game since OB and progressively see it get worse and worse.

What’s the harm of having the support heal class be the most viable ? Isn’t team play what you want to have ?

I get that there is multiple opinions but for me this game is loosing so much appeal every patch at the moment. Please start listening to the community again and stop going for cash grabs and accessibility features. We don’t need a second Fortnite we need the finals

[long ore]

instead of melee weapons, they removed music 😄

[sand marten]

Ironic topic for this weeks patch... "bring the noise" instead the noise, the atmosphere is gone and the music cut

[queen rapids]

6 mins in queue for world tour..

[delicate lance]

I miss music ;-;

[fleet panther]

Please allow players that achieved Ruby in Season 3 to receive the same new rewards that Season 4 Ruby players are set to receive (Ruby Background+Clavicle Badge).

S3 players still put in huge effort and time commitments and should get the same rewards.

[slender oasis]

A good idea for melee:
Add poison application to either dual blades or spear that replaces the alt fire currently that makes it so when they hit they apply a poison gas like effect (visually seen by others) to boost DPS and make them more close range orientated. This could also be said for just doing this effect for the spear, tho if this was done to the dual blades could possibly add the deflect to the spear and make it so the H class has access to such an ability that seems to make more sense for a tank anyways.
Any weapon you put it on you can make the animation be either the swords crossing and the poison gas effect coming off the dual blades model or like dark souls applying a effect for the spear.

[tepid summit]

revert light knife back to what it was, now that i have to hold for like 2 seconds, i cant use anything but dash because im walking up to the person slower than a heavy, not to mention that it just feels terrible to use now even if you could run around with it, because you have to hold down right click rather than just tapping it, we already have the sword being like that, why do we need another charging light melee weapon, it makes no sense

[gleaming lance]

The problem with the stun gun is not the cool down. If you make the stun gun cool down longer than it makes it weaker—light is already the weakest class and it doesn't address the main issue with it. The main problem is that casual and controller players can't react and turn fast enough and melee weapons are just absolutely screwed if they are stunned. The changes I'm suggesting is to make stun gun more defensive than offensive and are a lot more fair to casual, controller, and melee players.

[faint saddle]

Make dagger hold walking speed faster ffs

[silent fog]

Revert stretch viewmodels please

[woven hawk]

I will cri if this comes (Hud Shrink)
More than a quarter of my 34" monitor is black, so I can create 16:9 content.
Would love to see more of this beautiful game.

[sand hazel]

exp grinding is just playing the game as well but it can still be a hassle. its slow and you typically dont get many fans per match. how many hours do you usually play when you do play in a day?

[obtuse hull]

Guys, I don't have music in the game, is this a problem for me?

[small flint]

so much fun emptying a mag in the face of a heavy and all he has to do is to touch me with whatever and i die

[low pollen]

does anyone know if there is a developer API for TheFinals yet?

[pulsar barn]

Fatal Florist
Eliminate an opponent with a flowerpot

I just killed somebody with a white one only to find out that not all flower pots count.😭 This is so frustrating. This achivement is hard enough, please count all flower pots.

[quick coyote]

Model 1887: Decreased damage per pellet from 16 to 14 🙏

[quartz cedar]

Revert the weapon viewmodel change on stretched resolution please.
We do not want a massive gun viewmodel blocking half the screen

[misty jasper]

They already nerfed the model and have expressed that it's not overly powered based on the data they have on it. You and others complaining about model are again, just a loud group that posts daily that they want a model nerf. They're not nerfing it because it's NOT op. You need to stop thinking with bias, especially when you don't have the data that Embark has.

The reason the game is dying is because of people like you who complain about things that aren't op and that little mob group pressures the devs to nerf things that don't need to be nerfed. XP can't counter model anymore. FCAR can't counter model as well anymore. These two weapons were great counters to model, but now since they're nerfed, model is seen as stronger. But it literally hasn't changed. BUT, you can still counter model pretty easily with good movement, AKM, LH1, M11/stun gun, and good teamwork.

It's not. @jagged vector

[long ore]

I just wonder isnt the damage of the Charge too much? insta 130dmg seem kinda OP 🤔 if it was Slam then ok but charge, hmm

[mighty cedar]

can these trashz devs finally add a good anticheat or stop banning cheaters for 2 days. Game becoming worse and worse mwith this trash balancing and useless anticheat

[jagged vector]

The model is over powered especially when you have teams of people just straight using it running mmm which is what usually happens. What nerf did they do? Because it clearly didn’t resolve the issue that is at hand

[red arch]

2-4, depends if people i know are on

[gleaming lance]

List of some of the best balancing changes I've seen suggested by members of the community that are also well received by most of the community (day 2):

1. Model damage: 128 --> 116 or 112

This allows the model to 1 tap + qm light, 2 tap + qm medium, 3 tap +qm heavy. If you decrease the range or add a accuracy penalty when moving than you destroy the whole personality of the model. A fire rate nerf could work but that would be a lot of work for doing the same thing that simply adjusting the damage could do.

2. Mesh shield: Remove cooldown, but add an activation cost.

Mesh shield juggling was a cool mechanic that showed skill expression, but it was dominant and a skilled player could minimize all the damage they took to near zero. Adding an activation cost allows for the skill expression to be there but less dominant. They can still mesh juggle but each time they activate it, the mesh shield is weakened. -150 health is what I'd suggest but could be any where between 125 to 250.

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[wraith orchid]

deagle range is hilarious

[safe relic]

Please make a list of light players who complain about the model and give them a debuff that increases damage taken from Model from 128 to 300. Thanks.

[faint saddle]

fix the god damn dagger charged running speed

[hollow basin]

please remove forced TAA this game looks like utter garbage especially without an nvidia card. makes no sense why its forced

[ionic hound]

this is art that speaks truth

[sharp estuary]

This

[quick coyote]

Agreed or just add a sharpness slider atleast

[glacial cloud]

I really wish as a dead player; that I got the option to accept a revive. Im constantly getting suicide revived just to be killed right after them.

I dont really enjoy my k/d being altered by another players poor decision making skills.

[marble prawn]

my loadouts got randomly changed i didnt change them and ...?? my weapon loadouts and cosmetic pls fix

[small flint]

light are so freakign weak! Can't understand why I have to use a full mag on a heavy and it doesn't kill him, but no matter what he uses I'm gone instant

[warm hill]

when are y’all gonna sell the cosmetics irl

[delicate basin]

STOP BACKFILLING ME 3 times in a row, alternate it at least

[soft rain]

please just give me an option to play against people in my rank. either im playing against bronze or against ruby and it happends all the time and im fucking sick of earning 400 points for first place or not even getting to the second round because im playing against a team that is nr7 nr8 and nr12 in the world

[fleet meadow]

Fix Music!

[subtle oak]

This post is just true. Would make the game better

[sharp estuary]

Day#7 Rework dual blades: The third attack of the combo should be the first attack and it should be faster and a dash attack, that way players could reach the enemies easier, the damage of the first attack would be increased from 70 to X1 100, X2 60; X2 50, the dual blades should be able to deflect when running but I'm not sure if the latter would be balanced

[pseudo leaf]

cash sound is still weird. I most of the time push for wipes from the teams then another team steals our cash out and i didn't even hear the cash sound. + round starts 3 people spawn sound is loud

[silent fog]

Revert viewmodels for stretch please, my guns and iron sights are so fat now

[craggy basin]

Bro dual blades are fine but riot shield is a bit bad riot shield for a interesting buff should be it when blocking flash bangs don’t work on it and maybe seeing through smoke partially

[umbral turret]

Why did you guys have to ruin the CL-40? It was fine the way it was in season 2...

[long knoll]

Are we going to get any new game modes?

[autumn sedge]

In s5 maybe

[merry loom]

I've played the finals a bit now (over 1000 in round hours via the in game stats page) and over the past few months I've had lots of thoughts on things I would like to see, how I might balance different items, and I thought I would share and see if others had thought the same or had wildly different opinions and thoughts.

Ranked is now renamed simply to "The Finals"

Ranked ratcheting: Your world tour rank now protects your rank in "The Finals", If you've made it to gold 2 in "The Finals" and also made it into gold (1-4) in world tour you won't drop below gold in "The Finals." This change encourages the following:

Solo Queuing the ranked grind is now much more viable since players can't bottom out to the point they wouldn't be able to recover with effort.

Players who may have only set out to grind ranked now have a good reason to participate in world tour as well.

Increasing your progression in world tour does not increase your rank in "The Finals" it only protects you from falling out.

Ranked ratcheting ends at Dimond, ruby contestants will always be represented by the top 500 RS score for "The Finals"

UI:

Post match roundups should show your teammates progressions if any! Comms are still hot, it would be nice to be able to congratulate others as they rank up.

When selecting weapons and gadgets in menu, your character now preforms the inspect animation for that gadget or weapon.

When navigating the equipment progress circles load by the amount of XP earned from the last round you used that item in and show progression until the newly unlocked skins are viewed.

In these menus the card icon for weapons and equipment shows the highest unlocked skin instead of the default versions.

When equipping weapons on new characters the default skin is now the most recent unlocked progression skin.

Defib rework

Defib’d contestants can now be shot while loading back in.

Defib’d contestants return with full health if undamaged during the load animation (50% on defib, loads to 100% during load animation.)

If enough damage is done to the load animation it is canceled and the players statue is left in its place. This does not count as a kill.

Glitch grenades can also cancel defibrillator respawns.

Glitch items

increased glitch grenade duration to 8 seconds

Glitch barrels are no longer native to arenas but can be created by the data reshaper

Glitch Traps moved to light class

Mesh shield

Returned to 1000 health

Reactivation delay removed if shield is fully charged

Dome shield

Dome shield now lasts 8 seconds instead of 6

HP Increased to 800

Sonar grenades

returned to medium class

Cloak

Lights cloak is now less audible when at or below walking speed.

Weapons that can be drawn/charged (throwing knives, bow, sword) can be drawn/charged while cloaked the same way dagger can be.

Gateway

After throwing the first gateway numbers emanate from the top of the second (held) gateway indicating how far you are from your original gateway placement.

Tracking dart

Tracking dart reduced to three darts, duration returned to 15 seconds.

Darts now penitrate glass (breaking it along the way.)

Healing Beam

Healing beam heal rate is slowed when the person being healed is being actively damaged.

Heal beam restored to previous values.

Zipline

Zipline now has two placement modes, by default it will not place on slanted or vertical surfaces, holding left click/trigger allows for freeform placement.

Top 500 seasonal rewards for casual game modes.

Each game mode has a leader board, and as such each game mode now has a top 500 reward that rotates per season. If you've achieved top 500 in World Tour, Terminal Attack, Quick Cash, or Powershift you can expect to receive the amethyst reward for that game mode at the end of the season!

[lilac coral]

Doubt it but I wish they give us Limited events

[crisp heart]

Me too. I've been begging for 11 months for this lol. Like I said, they made some changes for ultrawides this patch, first time I've seen that, so hopefully it's on the horizon

[dire locust]

It would be cool if I could party up in the Practice Range and 1v1 my friends

[delicate basin]

goo breaks too often now idk what it is

[odd ibex]

Spear secondary

[silent fog]

Please revert stretched viewmodels, my guns/iron sights look so fat now

[fossil delta]

Everyone hates Kyoto jesus

[wide void]

Slower TTK means longer fights means more time for different skills to be expressed and to their fullest extents.

If everyone dies in 1 shot, anyone has a good chance of winning. If people only die after 100 shots, then only those who can truly dodge and aim consistently will win.

But that being said, some weapons deserve to be buffed. Model needs to be nerfed though.

[woven hawk]

PLEASE add option to force in-game HUD to 16:9, just like main menu already does.

Look at the stars on the left & right, so much beauty I'm missing...

[velvet nexus]

just uninstalled, they really lost their grip on the games direction they had in season 1, it's also insane that they expect you to be a career gamer to participate in the world tour ranks, and honestly queing this game just feels like a gambling addiction atp, the spawn logic is braindead compared to season 1, more often than not the first team you wipe respawns on the closest cashout before you can even get there, gimmic weapons have insane damage tradeoffs compared to the skill they take, everything is over-buffed or over-nerfed, the devs play their own game but they clearly arent good at it, otherwise theyd see alot of glaring issues in high level gameplay

[limpid willow]

heal beam balanced please don't nerf

[errant sedge]

why does my lobby music not work even if I have the volume on max? (on xbox) I think this might be a bug coming from the newest patch

[narrow socket]

Music works in practice range just nowhere else it seems

[tulip steppe]

Can ya’ll nerf charge n slam! It does 400 dmg and lasts forever

[barren mesa]

Yep
Same

[drifting belfry]

An option to disable backfilling in casual game modes (WT excluded ofc) would be more than welcome.

[rapid stream]

Buff model and add nukes back already

[fading cobalt]

Very good, how about frag indicators/outlines next?

[fervent phoenix]

helen keller ahh dev team

[long arrow]

+1 😦

[uneven dagger]

WAAAH WAAAAH

[rough hinge]

Dont speak about ChatGPT like that!

[daring fossil]

no thanks, nades are already mostly useless. I hate that COD normalized grenade indicators. They already ruined multiple guns because people can't be bothered to learn recoil patterns, more hand holding is going to ruin this game even more than it's already been.

[lost talon]

if you add grenade indicators I will never trust you again

[sharp estuary]

Here I go: I'm a medium melee main since S1, I have lvl 8 riot shield and lvl 6 dual blades and I can tell you that dual blades are the worst weapon in this game, it's very weak against mediums with turrets. mines, jump pad, grenades, sledgehammer, flamethrower, model, riot shield, taser, SA1216, SH1900, m26, lights with dash... the riot shield is in good spot rn, I don't think it needs a buff

[woeful arch]

Same, uninstalled a week ago, and I've been playing since Season 1. The game has become repetitive and all the nerfing/buffing/third party wins reduction efforts are not enough to keep the game engaging and fresh. There has been zero new game mode and the Halloween event was a disaster from the point of view of loyalty to a studio that says it doesn't profit off of FOMO - I can't support that. Still hoping we get a new game mode, if not I might stop playing the game entirely halfway through S4. Too bored and disappointed in the game direction.

[young grove]

Same here on ps5

[fading pelican]

I got a question: The new update says they fixed the contract "interrupt those stealing cashout or those interrupting decryption". What does that mean? before it only counted total elimination while enemy is doing the stealing/interrupting. Does it mean it doesn't need total elimination then?
Also, where is that best to complete as a contract? Basic cashout?
I wish they counted interrupts of anyone stealing (including if one team was stealing another's). I just don't get why the limitation...

[zinc bane]

day 5 of asking for a music selector. i need my s1 tracks

[limpid willow]

this game is so unfun and unbalanced it's about to get uninstalled

[brittle obsidian]

bro what? from the sound of it you dont want nade indicators because you can't land nades.

[hexed frigate]

Since this patch I cant play, the game dont stop crashing .-.

[civic rose]

anyone else cant hear the background music for the game?

[tranquil yarrow]

You had 3 months to grind world tour for ranking up and you're complaining now? I work and have kids and a wife and still hit emerald 3 the first month of season. You ppl just love to complain just to complain

[signal basin]

Because of the poor balance in this game. They, AGAIN, didn't touch the MODEL, DEFIB or HEAL BEAM. Let the M rules the game. Heavy can survivre and Light are just instant kill by 80% of the game.

[blissful smelt]

It's late 2024 and still there aren't LOBBIES for SOLO TEAMS.
Translated as task:

• create lobbies QUICKCASH where casual solo players aren't facing the typical orange team unexpectly strong with 3 PRO friends

[craggy basin]

Ok

[velvet nexus]

coming into a feedback channel to complain about people complaining and then telling me im complaining just to complain

[slate star]

bro amma complain some more, sweats need to chill fr. touch grass or something

[queen shale]

seriously just make it so flash bangs dont hit allies

[neon burrow]

Broski needs sbmm, embark pls

[wide void]

Bro, it takes a MININUM of 96 World Tours for Emerald 1 if you win every single one. And each tour is about 45 minutes. That's 72 hours at the VERY best.

Most people don't like the grind, especially when it's only on one gamemode and it's terribly balanced.

Also, S4 hasn't been 3 months yet. Wtf are you on about?

[jagged vector]

Guys, let’s be honest there’s no point to complain in this channel as it doesn’t feel that Devs even listen.

[clever hawk]

WT rank is by definition a grind, if you don’t put in the hours you don’t get the rewards. This is fine. Nobody is entitled to them and there’s plenty of other stuff to obtain.

@woeful arch A new gamemode is highly unlikely because the playerbase is already too small to populate Bank It during off-hours - a mode they attempted to remove during S2 for this reason. I suspect Terminal Attack is in a similar state.

The population is also too small for effectively implemented SBMM.

[celest egret]

I think it could mean just stopping a player for stealing without killing them. Like shooting them and they run away from the steal. I'd say quick cash is probably the best to pull this off since terminal attack is usually one-sided and I have rarely run into a match with a close end of decryption key being stopped before total elimination

[rough hinge]

This ^ right here, they only look at data and "balance" the game around data they dont care for anything that gets typed in this channel.

use charge and slam as the example, only thing thats never been nerfed yet tons of people have asked for it to be nerfed.

[radiant moat]

I AM NOT HAVING FUN PLAYING THIS GAME WITH MODEL BEING THE WAY IT IS

[iron bough]

No >:D

[fading wadi]

lets rebuff xp damage by 4-6% pls and thanks - everyone

[woeful arch]

That makes sense yeah - I wish I could play more but the wins of Quick Cash are too frustrating (third party wins) and I love Power Shift but can only play it for so long before getting bored. If we had proper "wheels" along to reward us to put up with the repetitive game modes I'd be down but the way the wheel went recently was yikes. Not having 5 dailies sucked and the RNG/FOMO was horrible. I'm keeping an eye on the server, still hoping to find a reason to return to playing the game, it's the only FPS I ever cared for and played it for all 4 seasons would be heartbroken over letting it go but eh, can't force myself to play a game if the fun is not in it anymore. We'll see.

[signal basin]

Read my name. BUFF LIGHT !!

• **NERF THE MODEL DAMAGE. NERF IT **
• Add an indicator for the frag grenade !
• Nerf a bit damage Deagle at mid/long range . AND NERF THE MODEL
• Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower RPM and less bullets. Just useless now. STILL USELESS AFTER YOUR "BUFF"
• Rework mesh shield. AND NERF THE MODEL
• Nerf Charge'N'Slam. Too much damage.
• Give back the rpm on the V9S but let the damage.
• Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown by 1 sec or add charge. AND NERF THE MODEL
• If Hook do damage, Stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
• Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charge. Too strong.
• Nerf defib. To strong. It's litteraly the M meta.** AND NERF THE MODEL**
• Mates being revive with defib shouldn't tank bullets. Or should take damage !
• Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now !
• Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked even with you lose T1.
• Fix the recoil bug/pattern AND NERF THE MODEL
• Fix the spawn after a wipe, SHOULD NOT RESPAWN on CashOut and camping for your vault

More on the game :

• BAN CHEATERS AND TOXIC PLAYER. I'm done of getting insult just because I play Light. Report them do nothing. PERMA BAN ! NOT 7 DAYS
• Sound balance is terrible.
• Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked. AND NERF THE MODEL
• Ban cheaters. We need more feedback on our report IG and on Discord.
• Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers ! Or maybe it's lag compensation ?! I'm done getting kill at 3 meters far from a hammer or a sword
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the begining of a game
• Let us go in pratice with friends. **AND NERF THE MODEL **
• Delete low gravity event. Just the worst even in this game.
• Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
• Random skin and charm list for weapons / gadgets
• Add a TDM mode for warming up.** AND NERF THE MODEL**
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the leader
• Add the possibility to PM friends in the lobby AND NERF THE MODEL
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
• Let us leave a game without penality in ranked if we are only 2 or 1 in the squad !
• Some spawn are still at the opposite of the objective. AND NERF THE MODEL

** Everyone on this discord are crying for the Light nerf while in the same times they are also crying when they get a mate playing Light ! Stop being hypocrite ! **

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

[frank holly]

Having to play perfectly with the FCAR to even get kills in 1 mag is getting fucking old bro...

Can't Embark just tell us if they're going to buff it or not???

[wet herald]

Had a game yesterday with someone constantly spamming them on me and the other teammate in world tour. Played against them the game after and saw them do it to that team too. They were only using them to grief

[quick coyote]

Nerf light

[swift skiff]

You need 1 000 000 xp to complete ONLY the last 10 level of the bp (100k per level)

wt??

(or even more xp bc only the first of the 10 level needs 100k)

for every weekly you just get 12k
this is not possible without paying for extra level

[untold escarp]

We Team Wiped a team twice in the platform mode, but it lasted less than ten seconds each time, but when we got wiped, it lasted 20 seconds as usual, why?

[frigid frost]

Normally at the last weeks of the season they do an x5 xp event for the bp so its not a big deal imo (i finished it)

[glad geyser]

this guy is not cooking and i say that as a light main, yes the model should get a nerf and grapple should have a buff, but otherwise he kinda lost me

[slate star]

that would be great

[quick coyote]

I HAVE A PROPOSITION, make a mod with bots, like almost offline play so if God forbid something happens to the finals we can still play and use our stuff we bought.

[wide void]

I'm not saying it shouldn't be a grind at all. I'm saying 1. the grind is too long, and 2. that one guy getting Emerald 3 in his first month is being an elitist outlier by saying others should just have the time and stop complaining.

Let's assume you actually win only 1/8 of World Tours, considering you are one of 8 teams competing. If you calculate the expected value for placing anywhere in the tournament randomly, it doesn't take 72 hours for Emerald 1. Since each game has an EV of 7.125 Win Points, taking an expected 26.25 minutes each game (if we assume every round you play is 15m), that's over 147 hours of the SAME GAMEMODE over and over within one season. It causes burnout.

And it's especially bad because they waited so long to announce Emerald awards each season.

And no, there is nothing else to "obtain" from any other gamemodes besides ranked... which, lol, is 90% similar in gameplay to WT...

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller on console

[wooden atlas]

Would be nice to see some more full skirt/dress attires instead of just the miniskirts, wedding dress, and the Frock of War

[clever hawk]

Taking breaks is perfectly normal and more people should do so. Live service games depend upon FOMO practices because gameplay itself - no matter how good - isn’t enough to keep most players coming back regularly. Resisting the urge to acquire every cosmetic is the best attitude to have and will see you enjoy more of the time you spend on any video game.

Season 5 of The Finals releases in 3 weeks and there’ll be a Christmas event shortly after. That’s a good time to resume playing.

@wide void Embark want Emerald to be a long grind to encourage players to consistently play throughout the entire season. If that’s too much of a commitment for you then don’t do it. If the rewards aren’t worth the effort then don’t do it.

Ranked has both a rank and similar rewards to obtain, with a variety of different skins too. Completion of sponsor contracts - some of which need to be deliberately focused upon - award cosmetics. Community events give rewards. Seasonal events give rewards. Simply playing gives rewards when you level your player level, item XP level, or battle pass.

Beyond that, the game should be played for enjoyment and not whether or not you receive sufficient cosmetics.

[silver snow]

Any fixes coming for controller selection of equipment being reversed? Up is down and down is up when selecting equipment. @teal ermine @frozen heath @full prairie idk i'm just tagging randoms at this point.

[burnt notch]

U can’t tag them and expect them to respond, they won’t

[swift skiff]

I know that but last season I just got barely finished and now we need 500k more than then. I completed nearly every daily and weekly this season so far and you now want to tell me the bp is not a big deal? I got 70+ hours this season so far and still not finished.

This is just a bold move by the devs, spin wheel proofed that they changed monetization and I dont have any hopes for next season to have good events or a new gamemode like s1 and s2 had. There will just be another cashgrab for Christmas and next arena will be Monaco remix like they did it with the Fortune Stadium (which is just a copy of Seoul)

I am here more than a year now and played the open beta and every Season since then. I know what I am talking abt and I know the game.

[woeful arch]

Thanks for the post, you make a lot of good points. I'm happier with the game when I return to it after a break like I had the time to "miss" it.

The problem right now is that the game requires a lot of grind with regards to career circuit and side community events, in order to finish the battle pass including the extra levels and to get event cosmetics. I can disregard wanting the cosmetics easily if they are on a FOMO basis like the wheel event, but when they are related to gameplay objectives it's harder to ignore them. I guess right now what I'm looking for is the kickoff of the "double XP" period that they usually enable in the final weeks of a battle pass, so I can return to the game and finish the battle pass + the extra levels of the BP + the career circuit. I'm like 90% there so it's not too bad but I'd not do it on a daily basis like I used to because of how repetitive and therefore "unrewarding" the game currently feels.

[lean notch]

Anyone getting stutters with new patch?

[wide void]

(copying @woeful arch)
So to be perfectly clear, you can make and monetize a game (even a PvP one) that doesn't insist on FOMO or insist on grinding about 150 hours every season to avoid missing out on ever getting the same rewards again. TF2, CSGO/CS2, OW1 -- hell, does DRG count? Contrary to what you say, you can make a game intrinsically rewarding and not just extrinsically rewarding. People will keep coming back to a game if the gameplay is good and they aren't burnt out from it. Hence why I have 8k hours in TF2. Hence why people play PvP Minecraft of all things.

So if you agree the game should be fun for the gameplay, then they should spend time fixing up the game instead of using people's anxiety against them to get them to play more of the same damn gamemode with terrible spawns and limited map pools -- or instead of programming stupid RNG to avoid giving out items equally and fairly a la The Wheel.

And no, none of the BP stuff or Season 4 events really count to gameplay variety when they are progressed in any gamemode (minus the one or two contracts to play 6 games in another mode). My complaint is that they put exclusive rewards behind only ONE gamemode (Ranked and WT are hardly different) and then made it take excessively long (in WT's case).

@swift skiff Agreed, they're trying too hard to force player engagement and expenditure instead of just having any good communication skills, balancing, or, frankly, design.

[oak kernel]

I think there's this unrealistic expectation that someone will only play one game or mode nowadays man. I think WT shouldn't be a super tough grind. If I'm able to complete the BP I feel like I should be able to also get emerald, but because I don't enjoy playing JUST ONE MODE whenever I boot up the game I get kind of punished for it.

Make world tour encompass the entire game. Make all modes get shaken up a bit. Go wild with it. Let us earn win points in every mode. Make it FUN! It's so limited for no reason. If it's not ranked, stop limiting yourselves to just one gamemode. Let people earn shit through the non tournament modes as well. Reward people for simply playing in general. I shouldn't miss out on non-limited event rewards just because I don't only wanna play WT.

[junior igloo]

improving upon the kill system, make it so if a player dies to a canister, show an arrow from the weapon to the canister with the damage (they recently changed it to just be the canister symbol; before it was the weapon symbol only)

[young smelt]

im tired of getting soloq'd with the mentally disabled

[iron bough]

I've been saying the same since season 3, and guess what? People told me to shut up and swallow. Nice work Embark, keep listening to your corporate shills, that will for sure make your community grow. WT matchmaking sucks, I won't touch that trash.

[fervent vortex]

This about model and nade stacks

[upper citrus]

Yeah, no. Faster ttk means less teamplay. Comp players are fine with the current ttk with the exception of the model. Which is why we all begged for pike nerfs rather than AR mega buffs. It’s a little weird seeing you say “all the comp players wanted faster ttk” considering I’ve never seen you in any high ranks games and you’re not in any of the comp servers. Where exactly are you talking to comp players lol?

[slate star]

ay medium class shotgun is the most balanced weapon in the game rn stop coping

[upper saddle]

Shields and Scoreboards, always a funky interaction.... But! hear me out-

Completely remove Support Score from Mesh and Dome Shield then track players who deal damage to them or get blocked by the Riot Shield, then if someone other than the Riot Shield medium or Heavy w/ Mesh and Dome kills them, give the Riot Shield / Mesh or Dome Heavy an Assist as they were drawing fire to create opportunity for that kill.

[mellow geyser]

How can one believe the game is balanced between M&K vs controller with such disparity in weapon type usage? ? ? Why divide player pools based on platform and not input device ? ? ? I’d love to get answers from Embark on these questions.

[silent fog]

Please revert the viewmodels for stretched resolution.
It looked way better before.
Also nerf Charge n Slam and model.
CnS nerf is needed since forever now and model needed a nerf since S2.

[daring fossil]

I love that there is going to be a hotfix for music not playing tomorrow when it took 4 weeks to "maybe" patch game breaking audio issues lol.

[woeful arch]

Yeah that's a fair feedback there, I do feel burnout from having such few game modes available to play (not touching TA because of how many people leave halfway through the rounds, guaranteeing a loss since they won't be replaced). Unless we are guaranteed to get at least one new game mode in Season 5, this one might be the last season for me playing The Finals.

[hasty jewel]

So is the taser supposed to give unilateral battle advantage against melee? Or is it supposed to be close enough range to at least get a swing in?

[grim herald]

Game is fire

[solemn sedge]

ADD AMETHYST PROGRESSION SKIN PRETTY PLEASE

[hexed frigate]

Eliminate SBMM in World Tour, all matches feel the same, and its suposse a casual mode, it takes so much time in queu

[dusty igloo]

Perhaps medium is an issue, there were at least 5 shotguns and probably more I think

[clever hawk]

I agree that the battle pass grind is too much and detest battle passes that expire. Paying money for something you have to grind to complete is bullshit. I also dislike challenges that only unlock late in the season.

@wide void OW1/CS/DRG all have some variation of FOMO/grind and it can be incredibly difficult to unlock specific things you desire in those games. In DRG this even applies to gameplay unlocks. I’m not too familiar with TF2 but I’m sure it has caveats.

A game should be fun for the gameplay but the live service model wants you playing effectively daily and the rate & quality of development necessary to encourage that organically is effectively impossible, even for the largest AAA studios.

Your point was about obtaining items and not gameplay variety. Many of the contracts also require certain classes or weapons or tactics.

@oak kernel The Finals is a live service FPS competing with many other live service FPS, the most popular genre in the industry.

Emerald is designed to be a reward for time investment, whilst Ranked rewards skill. It’s exclusively meant for grinders of their hallmark gamemode. If you can’t or don’t want to do that then don’t. You’re not owed the rewards, nobody is.

WT is a stricter mode that requires a far bigger time investment per match than quick play modes. It’s important to retain players throughout, hence the leaver penalties. Allowing its rewards to be obtained elsewhere would lower the quality of its matches.

Enforcing the gameplay/map/event/etc changes unique to WT onto the rest of the modes would also be a bad idea. Some people don’t want to interact with these changes. That’s why Quickplay modes stay the same - they are reliable for casuals.

You can also earn most things in these modes - sponsor contracts, community events, and all XP-dependent things.

[idle wharf]

ngl, getting one shotted with the light and medium shot gun sucks. at least let me have my sword back

[nocturne trench]

Please retroactively add the diamond player card background and diamond clavicle badge for people that got diamond in Season 2

[iron bough]

There is no matchmaking in WT, why do you think an absolute noob can get demolished by a boosted emerald Twitch Streamer?

[frigid frost]

The last pages are like an exclusive thing for the farmers, like in fortnite with the stars on the bp, so its understandable that u need to put effort on grinding those clothes, i got like +100 hours or more just on playing quick or WR, i went from lvl 60 to 70 and im currently at 104 at the bp (i still think that it's too mucho tho)

i hate the spinning wheel so i wont claim that, i had like 5 days straight getting dupes

played the open beta too and 720hours on the game soo i think i know too ig (?

(get kyoto out of the rotation please 😭 )

[simple hull]

randomly removes all my skins and attachments and they fixed looping gunfire audio by completely disabling music somehow XD lol these devs. do you test patches?

[junior igloo]

give model a 25%-35% headshot multiplier and significnatly reduce damage

[swift skiff]

there shouldnt be such thing as bp farmers tbh

every reward should be doable by normal playing and not grinding to death. After all we all payed money and in other situations we also dont say its alr that we dont get the full thing if we payed the full price. Battle passes are just 💩 in general. Lootboxes were the lesser evil

[night glen]

Interesting how, every time you start the game now, all game modes are NEW

[tulip steppe]

I used to back up the model but now I realise this weapon is too OP. In no universe should a model beat an FCAR. Nerf this shitty gun already!!!!!! While you're at it buff ARs. Shotgun meta should be dead by S5. Also give heavy a SPAS-12

@frank holly real spill bruh. I miss 20 mag FCAR

@cre.cre.cre#0000 nah fr😭

[wide void]

OW1 allowed you to directly buy the cosmetics you wanted with sanely grindable currency, and cosmetics returned every year. There was minimal FOMO. CS had some limited time events that didn't take that long to complete. DRG barely takes time to grind for gameplay unlocks -- maybe 100 hours to unlock everything -- and has absolutely zero FOMO. TF2 technically had a little FOMO but almost nothing you can't just get through trading now from other players if you really wanted it (and none of it was tied to playing hundreds of hours).

My point was that gameplay variety goes down when most people only funnel into WT because it is the only one that rewards multibucks and green weapon skins.

And WT's "quality" wouldn't go down just from other modes rewarding Win Points. WT hardly has any quality control as it is because it has almost no SBMM and people who hate it play it for the rewards. The match quality would probably actually go up if it had less people grinding multibucks and more people who actually enjoy the mode for what it is.

[restive jewel]

@cerulean dust Hi Chippin and all Embark staff, I love your game, the only constructive critcism i have for it is that I believe the reason not that many people play it is the WT and Ranked System. 2 teams only for the final round, seriously ? The charm of that game is the total chaos. 3 teams would be ideal, xoxo

[frank holly]

Cause they nerfed the FCAR into the ground... Fuck bro I just want an automatic rifle that doesn't feel like dogshit to use...

[rapid stream]

Add nukes back but they can only kill model mediums think it would be awesome

[upper citrus]

Nerf model and buff AKM and FCAR a little in the same patch so casuals don’t complain about “too many nerfs”

[celest turret]

Please amp up the anti-cheat system, it should not be common to see players that are aim hacking on crane, movement hack gliding across the map, this is below standard.

[hexed frigate]

idk man, I think my skill are just good, and I always play against full emerald lobbies, and when I play with my lower level friend, we play in a lot easy lobbies. Im not saying I want to play always in easy lobbies, what I want is variety of matches, some easy, some impossible, some very equal, not just full tryhard emerald players all in a casual GM

[violet elbow]

people really talk about emerald like its anything other than playtime

[trail nymph]

add maps to powershift

[clever hawk]

OW1 was a paid game and it was almost impossible to acquire all of the cosmetics you wanted without paying because of their cost + the loot box system. There were also exclusive OWL skins.

The overclocks in DRG take absolutely ages and are largely RNG - and they affect gameplay. If you fail to complete a season pass within its respective season you are at the mercy of total RNG. That is still FOMO even if far more acceptable than most. DRG is also a paid game however.

Most people don’t particularly care for the relatively paltry rewards WT offers given there are so many others to acquire. Gameplay variety only goes down if you choose to let these rewards determine your own choices.

You can’t risk lowering the playerbase of a 24 player mode especially given they already halved it. If upset players could just leave and not care about the penalties because they could instantly queue up Quickplay modes with zero penalties and work towards the exact same rewards then that would lower the quality considerably.

[faint saddle]

KEEP POSTING THIS I LOVE IT

[narrow spade]

Medium should be reworked to be a support/flex class. The following changes go over how I would move medium from good at everything class to focusing on well timed abilities in critical moments to create success. The idea is to give them power to adapt and support the team in fights. All the abilities will be shifted to focus on recon or short high impact moments. How I would do that:

• Put more emphasis on light's teamplay by moving demat from medium to light, while also nerfing demat. I would also give light either zip or jump pad as the two together are simply too strong for one class.
• I would move glitch mine from medium to heavy, allowing heavy to lock areas down better and taking the biggest counter to medium off of medium.
• I would give mesh shield and breach charge to medium, as both are reactionary and very powerful if used correctly, but are short lived.
• I would make guardian turret moveable, allowing it to be positioned at multiple times, again adding to the reactionary part.
• I would give motion sensors to medium, allowing them to get information and actually react quickly.
• I would give medium more abilities that play into this idea in the future such as a smoke mine, allowing them to get recon and stall for time.

[patent wind]

the goats speak facts.

[oak kernel]

I'm saying it's ok to extend these things to the other modes. You could also still include the non changed versions. It's really not that difficult a thing to conceptualize.

A game is for fun. This time isn't being invested, it's being spent. I hate this argument as a defense for this stuff. I am choosing to spend my time and money on this game, so it should be as fun as it can be. Grinding for a stupid amount of time to get some fomo rewards because they couldn't be assed to make it more enjoyable isn't fun for me. It's artificially extending how long people play. People will play and get burnt out. It's psychological trick type shit tbh.

No idea that would make the game more fun for most everyone should be shot down for the sake of keeping the game worse. Your rewards for this season won't be taken away if this was changed next season.

The finals has always been unnecessarily limiting with its concepts. I think that's really what limits its reach at the end of the day. WT is just a dressed up game mode, it doesn't feel like an event that encompasses everything about the game. They're getting closer to that and I hope they can fully realize it soon

[west marlin]

Oh its so bugged version:D I had one crash, sometimes desync or performance issue when I was like moved 1-2m and fall out of building, one time waiting for players menu under tab was empty and showing eliminations and for 4 matches my chat was not working (i was not able to open it with enter). Waiting for tomorrow release:D

[terse oxide]

Embark I truly love y'all, but even you have to admit that this is some bullshit. Please quit treating Power Shift like the bastard child of the game and give it some love

[wide void]

I quit playing OW1 entirely for 3 years and still had enough currency to get every skin I wanted and more before OW2. I only had 1k hours, spanning about 3 years of play (less than 150 hours a season)

Overclock grinding is a little slow, I agree, but it still only takes about 100 hours if you just focus on weeklies. And uh, it's not FOMO if you're not "missing out"

I didn't say they should not penalize you for leaving WT. I just said they should reduce the WT grind or make other modes contribute to the same rewards (even if only marginally)

[random lagoon]

I think they should add little tags to the cosmetics, like it tells you "Rewarded in season 4" but for previous seasons and contract completions, because it would really help for some of those if I knew they actually meant something and weren't worthless

[fervent vortex]

Ranked doesn’t matter breh, 3 out of 5 of the best heavies are gold rn

[granite kettle]

i have difficutly minimizing the game and opening other tabs pls fix

[shy parcel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308940207235661825/1308942326000783512/watermark.gif

[wet badge]

Sup, we all waiting for model nerf but should also add to this list SH1900 cuz it’s broken too + dash that’s insane

[deep vector]

had a concept idea for a gadget
dematerializing grenade
For L and M
It will be like an impact grenade
(ididn't know anywhere else to share
this idea)

[hexed frigate]

someone have problems about game crashes since the pach applied? Game crash in every match, I cant complete any match .-.

[brittle obsidian]

give akm its bullets back and remove the weird jerk to the side in the fcar recoil

[warped tendon]

Decrease m11 fire rate or damage, it should not be killing me quicker than any other weapon in the game when they miss half their shots

[trail nymph]

remove kyoto from powershift please the place sucks for durability

[noble crypt]

Today was my first time playing... this is the most beautiful and fun game I've ever played.

[echo urchin]

Nah. I fucking love Kyoto on power shift. Keep it

[faint saddle]

Remove Dagger Charged walking Penalty why is holding a knife in my hand slowing me down to be slower Then a heavy

[surreal meadow]

MORE MEDIUMS
MORE MODELS
MORE DEFIBS
MORE MEDIUMS!!

[magic stratus]

Please allow us to change at least weapons / gadgets with coins in ranked. Not being able to switch mid-game is so stupid. Give the coins more value by allowing 1 coin = 1 changed weapon or gadget

[terse oxide]

Why is my daily contract timer over 33 hours

[pearl ferry]

Can we stop glazing heavy skins

[dim forge]

They have just changed when they refresh, probably got set back due to a bug

[stuck rock]

this new update made it so i cant hear music in lobby or before games at all

[cursive plank]

Phase shift: light specialization.
Light can go through walls when activated and cannot be hurt. However, light cannot see enemies and cannot activate mines. The longer he stays in phase shift, the light slowly starts to lose health. Visual is that the light will look distorted and semi transparent. Enemies can still see the light. Vanish bomb counteracts this.

[frigid frost]

Zoom on the style tab does not work since 3 patches ago!!!

[red arch]

love the game, just not sure why you guys don’t want to get rid of this horrible model meta

[misty wolf]

Okay, Feedback time
With the new guitar out, will you allow us to change inspect between instruments we own?
Play the S1 guitar music on the Rift Wrecker and Vice versa

[iron bough]

Shhh you are a duck, take some bread.

[toxic bough]

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[shadow nebula]

Limit the amount of items being placed on the power shift objective.

[smoky sluice]

@surreal meadow I’ve played against those 2 rubys today too 😂 we were 126 points short from getting to the final round with them 💀

@realredbolt.#0000 148 headshot damage can kill anything in 3 shots max, so it’s definitely balanced, just hard to play

[fierce valve]

Please dont wait until next week to fix the music.

[vapid drum]

Rework Revolver please, every other gun can outfight the revolver

[surreal meadow]

shotgun meta is balanced
(guess what the heavy was running)

[arctic hatch]

So it seems that having Inverted Look/Aim also translates to Gadget Selection now

Super wonky

I'm on PS5 Controller

[past river]

But why???

[deep valve]

would love a 'clan' feature where you can have a group and compete for most cashed out, most kills etc with some ranks and rewards for being a dominant team overall? love the game.

[frank jungle]

idea: since you can't send party invites if you aren't a leader, have it so you can but the party leader has to approve it. other idea: make the revive statue look like your character

[rapid kayak]

a refund system where you can refund like 3 purchases a month or something, it just returns the stuff u bought with credits and ur stuff back, some of the skins look cool but look kinda mid in game

[wide void]

yeah seriously, there needs to be a way to actually test them in-game.

[proper crescent]

Solution: one grenade

[jagged vector]

I know it would he a long shot, but if there was a way to make cross play only include pc if you’re on Xbox or ps. If turn cross play off on console then you would just play against people on ps and Xbox. Pc players have such an advantage on console players

[fringe burrow]

main menu music machine broke

[golden acorn]

Do daily contracts reset at a different time now? Mine have not reset yet

[trail nymph]

remove kyoto from the entire game actually

[keen beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1304095302269014016/togif-2.gif

[quartz shell]

why tournament difficulty is easy when almost the full lobby are of my same rank?
and im getting deranked -800 just because fourth party

[shadow nebula]

3 heavies 2 mediums. 2 ads 2 turrets and 3 heaves running deployable shields. Can’t even shoot the ads to have a fighting chance of killing 1 or 2 off. Grenade doesn’t solve the issue. (4 out of 6 games so far have been this )

[surreal meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1304095302269014016/togif-2.gif?ex=673f4864&is=673df6e4&hm=55a3c1c1b905a7c9fd3c745a08e0cb28189902d303a6a636e1c6a7ba68fb479a&

[pliant glade]

I'm so sick of this season's balancing light has never felt more fuckin dead at times in a match. Everytime you nerf light or heavy it's like you take whatever you nerfed outside in the back and put a bullet in it's skull at least heavy still has a good amount of utility with his combinations and even one off abilities or utility. It's not to say that light doesn't but comparatively speaking every other class out performs more than any other season it feels

[toxic bough]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-kawaii-anime-boy-cringe-neckbeard-discord-gif-3671169381323451686

[summer yoke]

get good with grapple LH1 and come back

[carmine thistle]

Well another patch & no gun changes specifically the Models burst dps thats just terrorizing Light from Ludicrous ranges
As a player that consistently plays Light you killed me off with your inability to fix Thermals bugs, invis being ridiculously loud,Smokes inconsistency & basically requiring to play a class outa ones mind just to get bent by Burst Dps in 0.4 seconds by 1 shot, melee, Winch Clawed & killed.
Also having no real place in the ranked meta since you want mediums to do everything.
Too scared to make actual impactful changes
Disappointed & definitely wraps for me cya

[craggy cobalt]

Anyone else having extreme server issues on Oceanic? Cause its unplayable for me.

[marble mountain]

Hey everyone, just wanted to bring up something that's been bugging me, especially with the finals coming up. The game has been out for a decent amount of time now, and it's honestly surprising how certain issues, like FPS drops, haven't been fixed yet. I’ve got a solid PC, but I’m still struggling with performance, especially in the new season. It’s kind of wild when you compare it to games like Call of Duty, which have implemented detailed graphics settings that allow you to tweak things like texture quality, shadows, and render distance to get the best balance between performance and visuals. There are even options like a 'low' settings preset that helps make the game run smoother on mid-tier systems. Meanwhile, in this game, I feel like there's little control over optimizing for different PC specs. Anyone else dealing with this?

[soft rain]

something might be wrong with ur pc then. i have a 1060 gpu and an i3 cpu and i have 90 fps in game

[wide void]

ignore @soft rain , the game truly has optimization issues. There is simply NO way to excuse the RAM and CPU use on the main menu

also can't turn off TAA :(

[random lagoon]

gotta love how the second people get good with any weapon the community immediately gets pissy and demands it be nerfed, like at some point every weapon is just gonna deal 1 damage

[coarse bolt]

The music is gone

It's not playing, I already reopened the game

[obsidian halo]

try to uninstall

[foggy ginkgo]

Exactly…. Model wasn’t an issue until other weapons got nerfed into the ground, and for some reason people refuse to use their brain.

[smoky sluice]

@soft rain 90 fps is bad for a shooter, people want at least stable 144fps in games like this, maybe even more, i would love to play the game in 240hz for example but it’s not possible except with buying a 4080 or something

[terse glacier]

Well I decided to try ranked tournament which I never do because of lag. It’s really all based on if you get 2 cash outs or not. So you can get in a match where you get 10 times the kills and assists as either of your teammates and still rank down? Or you can have a match where you are being attacked by 2 teams, you manage to team wipe one team, fight off and team wipe the other, have the first team you wiped respawn and wipe you out because you’re still in rags from the last team you fought and now there is no time for anyone to steal back the cash out. I had a match where me and one teammate lagged out and got booted several times leaving my one teammate to fight almost the entire match alone! We got reconnected and last minute qualified, but if we hadn’t it would have down ranked us all!

[rain gust]

Just stop.

M11 is NOT overpowered or broken. It’s fine where it’s at, and always has been especially as a light weapon. Discussions can be brought in my DMs since #👂┇game-feedback is slow.

[quick coyote]

As someone who owns every Diamond skin since Season 1 (yes, even Season 3 and 4) I think these rewards were incredibly predictable, but I am beyond happy with them. Though I was a bit uncertain whether the heavy skin would be Sledge or M60, I am glad it was Sledge first because the Diamond one hasn't been available since Closed Beta 2, and I do not like the M60.

[edgy urchin]

the light suck off is crazy
the dead go boom -> kills lights using melee -> removed
glitch and explo mines -> kills & counters lights -> removed
recon senses -> sees lights that are invis -> removed
when will the devs do something to balance light instead of nerfing heavy and medium

@carmine thistle "light main" role, says it all go solo queue lil bro
@summer yoke try and play a match without playing meta light and get back to me
@finite galleon .lifehater im sorry to hear that my dislike of lights displeased you, if you have any further complains please consider talking to a female before hand

[trail nymph]

remove stun gun

[carmine thistle]

just tell me you're Bronze

[brittle obsidian]

-dead go boom was poorly designed because the explosions weren't telegraphed

-explosive mines were braindead value, now you need to actually consider where to put them to get the most out of them

-glitch mines have never been better. they are so insanely valuable they are an auto equip on every medium in high elo

-recon was literally kosher wallhacks, it was fundamentally unhealthy for the game and killed teamplay and preplanning

F tier bait try again

[eternal kayak]

I’m having a bug where in game modes where I can switch contestants if they have the same gun even if it’s different skins, charms or sight it keeps the gun from the previous contestant (charm, skin and sight) when I load the new contestant. It’s a bit odd to describe but let’s say I select contestant 1 and they have AKM with blue skin, iron sights and an ospuze sticker when I select contestant 2 if they also have an AKM even if it is different (let’s say yellow skin, red dot and no stickers or charms) it will keep contestant 1’s version of the AKM and load contestant 2 with it.

[summer yoke]

spot the guy who is gold stuck and hasnt played high elo where lights dont exist

[marble mountain]

Ya no I agree @wide void I’ve also been noticing that in certain parts of the map, or when there’s a lot going on, my FPS just drops significantly. Given that the whole point of the game is to have constant action, you'd think optimizing for performance in these high-stress moments would’ve been a top priority. Small issues like this really should’ve been addressed by now, especially after this much time. It’s a little frustrating when the core mechanics of the game are being hindered by something that could’ve been fixed earlier.

[wide void]

@foggy ginkgo Sorry, remind me how it's fair for the support class that can already defib, demat, heal, jumppad, glitch trap, and/or zip to also have a gun that 1-shots L with melee, 2-shots M, and 3-shots H while having perfect accuracy no matter how you move and dealing its damage in bursts that let you take cover? And not even requiring headshots??

Reduce the damage to at LEAST 124... And you could still weave in melees for the same TTKs. Right now almost half of all Mediums I see are running it or at least have it in reserve. It needs a nerf. Period.

@.notmatt.#0000 Light sucks unless you have godtier aim, and even then, you can use Revolver or Deagles. Even the damn devs said their winrates are low. Don't pretend they need a nerf.

@marble mountain If it's of any consolation, my new PC has virtually no issues with the game. But yeah, it shouldn't need such overkill hardware in the first place

[raw blaze]

m11 is perfect where it's at rn, AKM is too. Fcar still got a bit iffy recoil but this may be a skill issue in my part, XP 54 does need a lil booster seat, Throwing knives are shitting on me now that I have encountered them again but this may be a skill gap lmao, The potato blaster (Lewis Gun) feels too inconsistent but aint bad, and the dual swords are basically those old silver/red foam swords you used to be able to buy. Also the 93R is just one of those Orbeez blasters you can buy off tiktok for 5 bucks

[vapid drum]

Rework Revolver please:

Revolver scope in reduce their movement speed and make enemy easly shoot you while model has mobility because they don’t need to scope in

Make it don’t have bullet spread for the left click

Small bullet spread when jumping only for revolver

Make the right click revolver dump the whole mag with a burst bullet quick draw, medium bullet spread and there is no headshot for that move

[surreal meadow]

Light is non existant in high elo yet dominates low elo
embark refuses to acknowledge that light is too volatile in their respective elos, they can balance for both (less stats for more tanky) - but embark refuses to do so

[soft rain]

@smoky sluice 90 fps with no fps drops at all is not bad on all medium graphics (1060GPU). i have a pc that is 8 years old with a 1060 graphics card and an i3 cpu. and the minimum to even run the finals is an 1050 Ti graphics card and an i5 cpu. barely having good enough pc parts to run the game i still have 90 fps, no fps drops, no crashes, works perfectly fine. and comparing games optimization i have the same amount of fps in the finals as i have in fortnite cs2 and gtaV. . just a reminder that the games that i compared to the finals is multi billion dollar companys. so the finals did just fine at optimizing the game. @smoky sluice "f*ck this game, i don't even get my 500fps and 0 ping its unplayable"🤓 @smoky sluice its a good game and good games needs a good pc. If ur friends really get 30 fps its gotta be a laptop or something. If i get 90 fps on medium setting someone with a 20__ gpu Should get atleast 144 witch is still good

[obsidian halo]

skill issue

[smoky sluice]

i can barely get 144fps on a 7800x3d and a 3080 while in every other game u listed i get 300+ easily, the game is optimized like shit and i hear from a lot of friends that they have less than 30 fps when buildings break. @soft rain im fine with my fps but for a small game that wants to grow its not really that great to have only good fps on top hardware, none of my friends want to play it because of bad performance

[sonic spoke]

Love the riff on the new guitar!

[sour cloud]

ill sell my left nut for them to nerf grenades

[eager cipher]

i'm getting verbal abuse for using the weapon YOU GUYS nerfed (cl-40). how do you make one weapon unviable but every melt-your-face 0.1 ttk weapon is the supposed legit playstyle? joke of a fucking game tbh

[zenith pawn]

New guitar and outfit in general looks badass

[finite galleon]

"meta light" gg found the quick cash demon

[terse glacier]

I think you missed my point. I stated that it was based around cash outs, which is why my point was the team you’re on matters as cash out is heavily team biased, so if you get a bad team there is little you can do. I’m personally not so bothered by that as I am the fact that a bad connection screws not just you over, but your team as well. Why should I get down ranked if I wasn’t even there? Or my teammate for not having a team?

[worthy dew]

Umm… sorry I’m new to discord and this game so I don’t really know how this works but I have a recommendation to add a tracked contracts tab to the game summary after the match

[frank jungle]

isnt there one?

[tulip steppe]

I mean yeah. It was never an issue until everything else got nerfed. Now it's pretty much the go to weapon and it's ass how everyone is using it. So either embark buffs ARs and reverts mesh shield or they nerf the model (actual nerf).

[scenic frost]

Its not that hard to play light honeslty that might just be you no offence

[toxic bough]

Even as a light main I think they should remove stun

[edgy urchin]

💀 bro didnt even read the message, im not playing light im saying light is unbalanced and getting sucked off by the devs
think before u speak

@quartz dirge "light main" role, say less

[quartz dirge]

I don’t have to read this message to know it has no meaning

[twin geyser]

I like game

[wide void]

Idk what hackery you did to achieve that. Maybe your setup doesn't care about some graphical operations like TAA or shaders or something. But The Finals was the only game running like crap for me for my 2019 PC (till I upgraded). And many others say it runs badly for them, too

[dark niche]

make it next season top 500 for Console and top 500 for pc, cuz pc players are gonna obviously get 95% of the top 500 anyway.
theres only like 15 people who have ruby on console currently. (now idk if thats cuz console is dead or what, but its a major disadvantage)

[lost talon]

never gonna happen

[wild verge]

**

• 200 DPS bow
• 200 DMG headshot snipers
• 140 DPS sword + dash
• 400 DMG a mag with both light SMG's
• 320 DMG a hit with dagger
• Infinite dash with 0 cooldowns.

Embark:

Remove DEAD GO BOOM because of Lights
Remove Recon Senses because of Lights
Nerf glitch & explosive mines because of Lights
**

if its not enough lets also nerf dome shield and remove bullets from the AK just cause. theres nothing else thats wrong with the game

[clever hawk]

If you extend WT changes to other modes but also still include the unchanged versions you are going to have so many separate queues it’ll kill queue times. The game can’t afford to make them any longer because the player base is too small.

And whilst players not like it, we are consumers in an industry. Those in charge of the business have to make money to succeed, and practices that we dislike are still incredibly successful. Embark is far more lenient and generous on these things than most.

From a player perspective I’m also ok with there being rewards for those that spend their time grinding the hallmark modes.

@wide void The problem with your OW1 comparison (besides it being a full priced AAA game) is that the desired amount of skins was subjective. 1K hours is still an immense amount. I had a little more and didn’t acquire all I wanted to even for my favoured characters. Loot boxes were heavy RNG.

If you like to play for hours within the same week then that 100 hours for DRG overclocks multiplies very quickly. It’s built to incentive scheduled gameplay. The season passes still induce FOMO as failure to complete them within their timespan removes the determined path to obtainment and turns it into RNG which requires luck and an unknown amount of time. DRG is also a paid PVE game. Its competitors are a million miles away from The Finals’.

What I said was that having all game modes progress towards the same rewards is a bad thing for the mode that has penalties. Those seeking the rewards have effectively zero punishments for leaving a WT match because they can just instantly queue up another mode and continue progressing. It loosens the barriers and would degrade match quality.

[sonic sequoia]

wassup embark if you guys could add an interface toggle setting to remove the weapon input hints thatve been added to the hud (r to reload etc) thatd be epic

also add an upvote reaction to these messages in here so u know which to prioritise, u could make it a forum channel similar to bug reports maybe?

[sonic spoke]

Aim assist is insane.....
@sonic sequoia yes please!

[magic forum]

Un nerf the XP

[floral niche]

Real

[meager jewel]

PTSD from TA ^ 🥲

[surreal meadow]

bro fucking makes an alt account to reitterate his points LOL

[versed cloud]

No they didn't remove dead go boom because of just light. They removed dead go boom because they have way more melee weapons to the game for all classes and it was impossible to balence the game around it. I like the dead go boom. But it's obvious why they did that.

[upper citrus]

Skill issue bruh the class is terrible if you can aim

[placid obsidian]

Day 11 of asking that kbm support be added for console use when crossplay is enabled

[late raft]

Under 50 wins should mean they can’t enter ranked no 🧢

[jagged vector]

Guys don’t bother giving suggestions on this chat cause they don’t look at it. It’s all a placebo for the players to think they have a say in things, they go off data not what we say they don’t care. The game has slowly been a cash grab. Stuff that we all want or a majority of us want doesn’t happen with every update is making more and more people leave and it’s sad to see cause the game is fun but is very unbalanced but it’s hard to balance cause everyone has an issue with something.

[mellow geyser]

Embark: are you even going to try to make the game into the success it should have been? There are just a couple of areas that are poorly executed. But it’s seems you are afraid to make fundamental changes, in which case you deserve failure.

[vestal prairie]

I kind of disagree... the data should be at the forefront anyways because 80% of the stuff In here is just random complaints and then people being disappointed when their complaints aren't done. Usually they do touch stuff that is a regular comment in here that is supported by data which is how it should be

@waxxie.#0000 I wouldn't say anyone is babies but a lot of players don't realize that every time there's a balance change it simply moves down the line. At first it was FCAR->Ak->pike->model and all it took was the weapon before it to be nerfed/balanced. As far as weapons go I think they're fine the only complaint I can kind of get on board with is the ranked points gain/loss and EXP gain. The model doesn't feel that great anymore compared to a few weeks back IMO especially on console

[merry geyser]

Agreed, just a bunch of babies that want the game THEY want. Just cause they can't aim for shhh. Game is pretty good where it's at. Is anyone else having this issue where music is not playing at all in the game?...

[tough sluice]

Love the game so far but I wish the equipment wheel worked for PC.

[wide void]

@clever hawk The playerbase is not so small as to prevent queuing if people play the other modes a bit more lol.

I'm not saying OW1 was perfect, I'm just saying it was less of a grind and relatively more fair. And minimal FOMO. OW2 changed gears and people instantly hated it.

You can still get everything in DRG determinably, even if the order of cosmetic items is random. It's not FOMO lol.

Honestly my main argument was for CS2 and TF2. Free and nearly no FOMO

Your scenario in which someone leaves a WT game mid-match just to grind the other modes instead makes no sense. Just apply the leaver penalty elsewhere. Or keep it to WT but make it more harsh. And of course, the other modes don't have to reward as many WP as WT does. It would just be nice to make progress on Emerald 1 without playing ONLY WT for 147ish hours. Like, surely 147 hours in one reason is already a lot of commitment from a player, but WT specifically? Why again?

[edgy urchin]

what a joke just because someone rephrases the same thing i said its an alt, sorry kiddo but not everyone likes lights not my fault someone has the free will to bring up the same points as me

[smoky sluice]

remove leaving penalty on kyoto @tired bear did u try actually playing the game??\

[surreal meadow]

i mean point by point is word for word, true or not its funny. youre taking it too personal

[sonic sequoia]

i really enjoy looking at feedback from people that want things balanced that have no concept of how balancing works

[dry plover]

Rework Revolver Please

[tired bear]

make fans easier to get im trying to complete my sponsorship but probably wont have enough time

[terse glacier]

Please add kill cams to the game.

[lost talon]

the new flashbang color leaves the UI too visible, to compensate, make the UI have the same effective transition from black to white that the other one is white to normal game, if you still read this page. You should really make it less visible at the same time in the transition cause its not straining to see either. People shouldnt be choosing this for an advantage, you should get rewarded for sitting through the white flashbang

[vestal prairie]

W

[edgy urchin]

your looking into it way to hard why would i even make an alt to post the same thing i already said theres no logical sense in that, please stop playing light and research the use of critical thinking thank you

[placid compass]

"Interrupt opponents who are stealing your team's...." This contract is taking any and all fun away from the game

[frosty wedge]

Anyone experiencing this? https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1309004412357705738

[vapid drum]

Revolver need a rework FR

[smoky sluice]

try playing light with taser

@toxic bough i loved csgo

[thorn kelp]

Buff the people who self-report in #👂┇game-feedback

[toxic bough]

Do you think csgo sucks?

[jagged vector]

I play in console and am just curious why an equipment wheel is better for pc? Can’t yall bind any key you want to the equipment? I don’t use the wheel myslef cause I feel it takes longer to pull the equipment out rather than hitting a right or left on the Dpad.

[hearty yew]

Charge-slam is too op, the dmg higher than rpg is crazy, and multiple dmg is also nut. Does anyone fell the same way?

[visual wave]

I wish an “I’m sorry” option was part of the social wheel

[royal bluff]

greate game

[wild verge]

I think my favorite thing about thefinals is the ability to dash with a sword and hit someone for 140 instantly with 0 chance to do anything about it 🤧🤧

[smoky sluice]

@forest wasp fcar has allready higher dps than ak? why would u buff it?????

[steady star]

FIX YOUR SHIT

vegas sandstorm broken textures have to go

how have they been in the game for this long? incompetence

[dreamy owl]

when nerf sword and daggers?

[hexed frigate]

The dagger is very good, but it has a big problem, that you can maintain the heavy attack is perfect, however you have to calculate the time to know when the blow is ready, you should just click once you make the attack It immediately loads and if you want to keep it you just hold down the right click, it is very frustrating that you are about to stab someone in the back and instead of attacking only once, it returns the knife to its original position.
Furthermore, the fact that we only have one sound as a reference to know if it is already loaded is horrible, in this game there are many explosions, shots and loud noises in general, it is impossible to hear the sound that confirms that the attack is already loaded.
I miss how before S4 you just click one time and you backstap someone, that feels so much better in fundamental moments

[vapid drum]

Holy crap revolver without bullet spread (not scope in is better ) I use crouch and not scope in is better

PLEASE EMBARK REWORK REVOLVER

[tulip steppe]

Give medium the Saiga-12 in S5

[frank holly]

Dear Embark, we humbly plea,
Buff the FCAR, set it free.
In the Finals, it's not enough,
A little damage, will make it tough.

Lessen the recoil, and we will see,
The state in which it ought to be.
So please Embark, hear our call,
Buff the FCAR once and for all.

[forest wasp]

D tier rage bate

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 87)

[terse glacier]

We didn’t lose. As I said we managed to steal last second (the only second I was in the match), but if we hadn’t it would have down ranked me and my team even though most of the team was not even in the match.

[prime grove]

pls embark make more maps like fortune with a lot verticality it is important to have super pads and super zips it is always fun when there are multiple levels to jump b/w

[flint fossil]

fortune stadium is my favorite map

[glad ginkgo]

Brass Knuckles Melee for Heavy with punch speed of an M11

[smoky sluice]

@arctic pelican @tardy trench theres no matchmaking in any gamemode except ranked

[brittle obsidian]

nerf model 1887 damage and revert spread nerf. the medium shotgun should be medium range, its part of the build's identity, its damage is just crazy high compared to other medium guns (or even other shotguns for that matter)

[arctic pelican]

Is there any explanation for the matchmaking in this game? Every game mode seems to just throw whoever into a match and balanced matches are unimaginably rare. I have never experienced such consistently lopsided matchmaking in any team-based multiplayer game in my entire life.

As far as feedback goes, please share your matchmaking algorithm with the community. This is nonsense

[tardy trench]

Why iam i a silver 4 fighting emeralds/Dimond but my random team mates are still in there qualifying matches. Like bro what

[half briar]

The most consistent and reliable thing in this game is when you see three or more enemy lights in power shift and you know you can just safely quit and find a new match because you are absolutely going to have more fun in the next match.

[kindred cairn]

I have a question regarding the private matches. How is it dictated who joins what team?

[frank holly]

Dear Embark, we humbly plea,
Buff the FCAR, set it free.
In the Finals, it's not enough,
A little damage, will make it tough.

Lessen the recoil, and we will see,
The state in which it ought to be.
So please Embark, hear our call,
Buff the FCAR once and for all.

[sonic spoke]

show us who zaps us with stun gun

[hexed frigate]

Ad a butterfly or karambit knife skin for dagger pls, I will give you all my money

[wooden atlas]

Ugh…people really shouldn’t have asked for a sword nerf. Dagger meta is shaping up to be WAY worse than sword ever was

[carmine ginkgo]

still no model nerf after this long is crazy

[daring fossil]

it wont get touched until season 5, and then they'll just remove like a single pellet or something completely brain dead

[compact ore]

Can you fix communication on consoles? Its almost a YEAR ! No ingame chat and your stupid “wheel” since open beta…

[trail nymph]

the wheel..

[restive marten]

The OST is so peak, please don't stop cooking in the foreseeable future 🙏💛

[obsidian ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1308918526882480198/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[half briar]

This game is tired.

Not understanding what I'm saying is the best reading comprehension proof you can show here. I didn't say I can't deal with lights or that I'm not able to win. I'm saying it's more fun and way less frustrating not playing against a lobby with mostly lights. You know, because some people play games to have fun, not trying to stream as a pRo GaMeR.

Wanting lights buffed however...

[signal basin]

Can't deal against L as a M is the best skill issue proof that you can show here

[daring fossil]

if a cashbox is being held in an elevator for over a minute it should respawn, an entire round of this shit shouldn't be possible.

[nimble gale]

yo where is the game music?

[dry plover]

Embark Rework Revolver please

[misty wolf]

Please, Mr. Embark. Let me choose the song in the inspect animation if we own more instruments of the same type.

[trail nymph]

let me change guitar music

[rough herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1309033732270981221/IMG_1089.png?ex=67401c2a&is=673ecaaa&hm=52fe8bd6796b73a79a457e3eb1af1519f2d46e6f136c5a81cc5394e381946e2d&

[timid pagoda]

nerf SR84 please

[neon burrow]

force shotguns out of viability for a season the same way you did with the mp5 for a change of pace to the game.

A shooter where every class's best weapon is a damn shotgun is absolutely trash and theres a good reason every shooter out there makes shotguns garbage.

I just want to have actual fights in this game that arent against SA12's and Models

[junior igloo]

they are working on it should be back next patch

[pliant glade]

Was just coming here to say lmao, even in bank it bro. Every light has double barrel or the matter, medium is model, and honestly, i don't see a lot of SA12s or slugs, but when i do yeah they're pretty annoying, least with winch.

[desert mulch]

Does anyone actually prefer the menus and gameplay in silence? I feel like it helps me focus on the moment to moment action

[daring remnant]

I've talked on the website with Embark employees 3 times and they keep telling me to come here so I'll come yap here. When I go into the game's main menu, either from booting up or a match ending, my game will at best freeze for ten or more seconds, booting me from whatever party I was in and at worst freeze then crash. I've got a pc that could make the CIA get hot under the collar, fresh drivers, verified files, fresh installed it onto both a hard disc drive and a solid state drive. I really got to finish the battle pass this season please anyone I need help.

[vapid drum]

Rework Revolver please embark

[wild verge]

i think the best thing about thefinals is the need for aimbot just to kill a light. really balanced 👍

[honest pulsar]

Shit player here to give low elo heavy akimbo main opinion (- = change -- = comment)

--The game simply does not have enough players. The way I see it the only way to actually enthuse people would be with a semi-massive content update. I'm talking new gamemodes and some sort of new ability type.
-I heard someone talk about the idea of adding passives, I think that could seriously change the balance into something that feels more rewarding for everyone if done right.
-As for gamemodes, world tour should have multiple gamemodes that are either selected at random or a ban system akin to map banning in csgo, or maybe like how you select game modes in cod. I think players would enjoy a more competitive environment for power shift without it being a main competitive mode.
-sword nerf swing speed and damage
-let melee hit multiple opponents in one swing if on top of each other (VERY SHORT RANGE)
-model range cut in half, no less
-nerf akimbo range
-- Power shift is a genuinely fun gamemode ruined by team leavers (its just quickplay bro)
-World tour win points should be awarded either for exact placement instead of when you are knocked out, eliminating the 20 minutes you may spend over and over just getting 0 win points, if I come in 5th at least give me like 2 points, you know?
-MOST IMPORTANT THING BEST QOL CHANGE POSSIBLE: Please make an alert for when you finally load into a game. Sometimes I like to play the game in the morning, unfortunately this is relatively impossible for ranked, and queue times for world tour are around 5 minutes. During that waiting time I many times like to switch to something else while I wait. In most other competitive games, the game alerts you when a match is found, but the finals stays completely silent and just loads you in afk. I'm not sure how hard that is to implement, but I feel like this feature should be standard
-(controversial, unwarranted) remove gateway from light and give to medium
i love the game, open to questions, criticism.

[tulip steppe]

Saiga-12 for medium
Nerf Model dmg to 100
Buff Fcar dmg
Buff XP54
Revert mesh shield + 400 hp

Fix matchmaking. S2 had the best sbmm. If u were gold u were put in gold only lobbies. Now, if you're gold u get put in ruby lobbies

It's time for different diamond, emerald and ruby skins. Famas, SA1216, LH1, Revolver, M60.... so many weapons without ranked skins

[pliant glade]

oh my god im so sick of seeing triple model in ranked holy FUCK it's so dumb and boring

[hazy shore]

its kinda crazy how bad the anticheat/banning system is when even powershift has people using cheats

[brittle obsidian]

20 trillion more seasons of model meta 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[daring remnant]

Embark please fix my freezing and crashing issues its really bad. I've talked to you before but there still isn't a fix. If you fix it I'll buy every battlepass every season every year until the downfall of mankind. I actually enjoy this game.

[scenic frost]

I think the game need to balanced better I’m tired of being put up with temates that have no game sense and are branded

[quick coyote]

hi, my game keeps crashing and i installed it yesterday, whats the problem?

[quick coyote]

Bad idea to add indicators for nades. Next we'll have a minimap with red dots when people shoot their weapon. There's an audio queue, teammate callouts and visuals for seeing nades in the world itself. CM's have used the term "skill issue" before, please don't make THE FINALS another UI centric game. If indicators are something really being pursued, perhaps try outlining the nades with the enemy's team colours first and see how that goes before something UI driven.

[thick sorrel]

The Finals Models Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 4.7.0 4.8.0 4.9.0 5.0.0 6.0.0

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added
• ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... it still 2 shots Lights at 15m😂
  **Real Fix: 2-Shots Lights and 3-Shots Heavys, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Defibrillated Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not Alan enough.

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Flash & Hulk
  Dev Note: We thought it fits the instant sprint activation and the damage level of Hulk Smash - usually used after RPG for a free kill.

Dual Blades

• Decreased Blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

[timid pagoda]

limit grenade laucher in platform gamemode
even everyone using grenade launcher in platform gamemode
limit player use this kind of weapon is more better than nerf

[charred folio]

Hi Embark, love the game but please sort out the EXP requirement for the final tiers of the BP – 100,000 EXP (might be higher in the next ones, I'm only on the first) per tier is just ridiculous and absolutely not achievable by anyone with a job, school, family or who needs to do such unreasonable things like be able to sleep, eat or have a life outside of the game

[tulip steppe]

Saiga-12 for medium
Nerf Model dmg to 100
Buff Fcar dmg
Buff XP54
Revert mesh shield cooldown but give it 400 hp
Nerf Charge n Slam
Buff Revolver effectiveness at close range
Buff pike dmg and hip fire

It's time for different diamond, emerald and ruby skins. Famas, SA1216, LH1, Revolver, M60.... so many weapons without ranked skins.

[wind meteor]

I think in a week they will give an XP boost, like they did in season 3.

@mild veldt if i remember correctly, yes they did it with 2 weeks left. Although the season was a month longer than the current one, and I had had already finished the battle pass. But fir this season I think I'm gonna need it.

@tulip steppe nerf dmg = 100? 3 shots for a medium and 4 shots for a heavy, with the fire rate it has the weapon becomes useless. If you increase the fire rate, the weapon becomes the same as a revolver.

[mild veldt]

They did it with how many weeks left? 2?

[plush fjord]

ye real. damage feels like the prob. unlike sh1900, the model should be a low damage good range shotgun

[dense ocean]

day 66 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[fading pelican]

^ Yup it's ridiculous how time-sink this game has become. Would be fine if there are no cheaters, better contracts/challenges... but nope.
I feel sick from Embark's choices for this season. I don't know what they were smoking over there.

[fervent coral]

“Oh we made it to where its farther then 10m it’s inaccurate” THIS IS A FUCKING LIE

[hoary cradle]

Hello everione 👋
Dear The Finals & Embark studios Team!
I hope You are doing well!

Firstly I would like to say thank You for this game, I really like it and plaing with enjoy!

First of all, I would like to thank You for this amazing game!
I really enjoy playing it and have a lot of fun!

However, I would highly recommend adding a ranking system.
Sometimes the matchmaking pairs You with teams that lack basic skills—like players who just run around the map aimlessly or stay inactive. This really ruins the experience, especially when You're playing solo without friends.

[viral whale]

Hey so I've been loading into games very slow and every other game I join, it resets all my weapon skins and customizations to default on all of my classes. For both gadgets and weapons across my light medium and heavy builds are all default. It's really annoying having to redo all of that just for it to happen again

[fervent coral]

Give me a filter setting so I dont have to play with light builds

[meager jewel]

Same issue here, the freeze thing I have had since season 3 but getting booted from my party is new since last update or so

[red arch]

flashbang reverse is good

[slender topaz]

🙏 🙏 🙏 Rocket Jump for the Heavy Pleaaase 🙏 🙏 🙏

[long arrow]

YES FOR REAL +1

• add choice of music in lobby , matchmaking , & fin / loose
  +create a gaz gun ( like fire gun of heavy)
• increase charge of c4 to 2
  +buff bazooka RPG heavy & reduce damage to us if we shoot contact
  +rework of ranked progress because no sens for points....
  +start the game when lobby is full pls , tired to play 2v3V3V3 then the 2nd mate quit the game (ngl i understand him its just cringe matchmaking)
  +Maybe new snow weapon who can make enemys slide !

[stuck sentinel]

💀

[vapid drum]

Dev, Rework Revolver

[sage kite]

Game often struggles to launch on geforcenow, it crashes on startup so you need to restart the whole session generally.

[tired sorrel]

Make a double barrel skin for ranked or world tour please

[digital anvil]

Its crazy that they didn’t do The double xp for 3 weeks starting yesterday, The finals wasn’t the fomo time sink it is currently becoming. I am looking towards season 5 but i hope they stop de fomo train they are currently running

[vital lily]

I hope they give triple XP bonus because this season is abnormally grindy. Even the reputation of sponsors is not progressed, and they give 9000 XP as a reward, it's ridiculous.

[mild veldt]

A Level 4 begin paired with a lobby full of 60s

Embark, for the love of FUCKING god, create some sort of protection towards newbs. Throwing them into this type of lobbies is frustrating FOR EVERYONE.

[quick coyote]

@wheat fractal heyy my game keeps crashing i turn off background stuff like discord spotify etc not sure if it has anything to do w nvidia but even tried turning off all its containers etc idk wats causing thee game to crash any advice to fix this

[late raft]

This is gonna be such a trash week. Such shit maps and moving/suspended structures on every map simply isn’t fun

[smoky gust]

Additionally we’re kicking off a brand new community event where we’re challenging all of you to successfully steal 600.000 cashouts within the last minute of a match! The intensity has never been higher in The Arena.
Now that is exactly what i hoped for
A challenge that fits to the sponsor
I like it

Maybe we could have this more often
Perhaps even for longer periods of time or separate from "normal" community events

You could call it something like "sponsor challenges" and have it active over multiple weeks while any given sponsor is active
That might be cool

[echo urchin]

Skill issue.

@keen lily nah, just no one wants to play with you.

@keen lily lol, you aren’t in a position to say shit about creativity with your tired ass “dead game” whining.

[keen lily]

dead game

@echo urchin wow what a creative joke you are so amusing incredible

[south mauve]

any word on if the team is aware of the invert look equipment wheel bug / when a possible fix is coming out?

[maiden swallow]

Game

[shy parcel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308940207235661825/1308942326000783512/watermark.gif

[dusky apex]

I had 2 guys defib me in turns and it took 10 hits before the server worked (also I died cuz my flamethrower didnt do any fire damage beforehand) less weapons buff/nerfs more server updates please :)

[round bramble]

The Gfprce Now Game is down since yesterday. Will there be an announcement about the situation?

[thick cipher]

Embark please add the t symbol of Iseul-t in the middle of the chest of the community event clothing. It looks so bare and empty as is

[fleet panther]

Please allow players that achieved Ruby in Season 3 to receive the same new rewards that Season 4 Ruby players are set to receive (Ruby Background+Clavicle Badge).

S3 players still put in huge effort and time commitments and should get the same rewards.

[severe raft]

I'd love a way to reroll certain tasks, I really struggle getting the "Interrupt someone trying to steal your cashout" quest, If they let go before i finish killing them it just doesn't seem to count, I'm having to hope with randos that I can capture a point, hide and stun gun them which is really annoying 😦

[royal mesa]

anyone know how to remove these new annoying promts everytime you change weapon

[dawn valve]

REMOVE. THE. WINCH.

[wind meteor]

this doesn't make sense. Imagine every time they do rewards for a new season, they will have to give them to all winners of previous season. So I just play one season and collect everything to come? S3 players played for the rewards of S3. That's how everything works man ❤️

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller settings on console

[strange solar]

sick ahh game

[round obsidian]

still no fans for dailies, nice one embark, real nice

[fleet panther]

Not what I'm meaning. From S4 onwards, Ruby players will receive two additional rewards compared to S3 Ruby players. My issue is why were those not available during Season 3?

[keen lily]

season 3 is done stop moaning

[dusky apex]

im standing still scoping with a pike with a dude standing still lined up in the reticle and its still no regging like no tomorrow...

[echo urchin]

Turn off the “hint” button in settings. It can be set to on, fade, or off.

[sand hazel]

thats what the aps was for but we saw how that turned out

[barren hare]

The "Win a million cash in any game mode" challenge does not count power shift, complete scam

[vapid drum]

Rework revolver please

[analog cave]

enable omnidirectional sprint without needing auto sprint active

[deep sierra]

Buff fcar

[slender dust]

why do you not earn any money in powershift?

[primal hornet]

Nerf all **shootguns **in the game (L, M and H). We only find full Mid teams with Modelo or Light class with SH1900.

Dealing like 156 per shoot that vaporizes every Ligth, with another shoot kills Mid. They have too much fire range and aim to a shootgun.

Fix this and check the anticheat sistem. There always a Mid dude with revolver doing headshoots.

[polar shell]

EMBARK WHY IS MY EQUIPMENT WHEEL INVERTED ???

[round obsidian]

put fans in the dailies, be back soon to say it again

[pallid oxide]

Pls fix world tour man im going against emeralds in bronze

[lost talon]

YOU HAVE BROUGHT GREAT SHAME ON THE NAME OF MY SPONSOR, NOT ONLY IS SUSPENDED BULLSHIT IN ALL OF THE MAPS, KYOTO IS STILL THERE HOLY SHIT

[rapid kayak]

yes

[deep sierra]

Hear me out at the end of the day the game is really not that competitive bring back season 1 ranked and undo all the nerfs to old weapons and gadgets.

[native berry]

When one team has their cashout stolen but then reclaim the stolen cashout successfully without opposition(within 30 or a minute after the enemy team has stolen it), have Scotty or June say that a stolen cashout has been reclaimed by said team

e.g. "Cashout reclaimed by the Tough Shells! The thieves may need to work on their defensive strategy."; "The Boundless regain control of their cashout!"; "In a shocking twist, The Shock and Awe have managed to reclaim control of their stolen cashout!"

[neon burrow]

"This game doesnt meet my criteria so cater to me and make the game completely insufferable again"

[smoky sluice]

@neon burrow tbh weapon balance was way better in season 1, gadgets weren’t tho

[knotty smelt]

the load times after this last update have gotten insane. I'm just sitting here for 3 minutes now waiting at a black screen

[weary pine]

Fix the invincible zip lines. You can destroy both ends of them and they still wont go away.

[polar blaze]

Is it just me or are throwing knives really strong right now?

[bright oasis]

When loading into game im randomly getting lost connection to server why is this happening everytime

[surreal meadow]

i dont play light bro, youre reading too much into it. my jokes arent funny sorry :boowomp:

[grim latch]

my game keeps crashing, but only when im winning, and thats not very often

[round obsidian]

put fans in the dailies, be back in 30 to say it again

[remote jewel]

On god they are I see more throwing knife lights then sword lights nowadays

[cosmic narwhal]

Day 17 of asking for a ready up button

[rustic tusk]

Can we please make a slight change to the riot shield? Can the sticker be on the outside and big so its decorated like a shield?

[grim herald]

Where can I post the best sniper montage yall ever seen?

[knotty smelt]

@rustic tusk the stickers and charms aren't visible for other players. You'd only be ever able to see the sticker during the inspection animation.
so Idt if that's a good change to propose.

[vale stream]

How am I supposed to play this game when I crash literally every game first round then get matchmaking suspension. Horrible game it only started doing this after most recent patch that was supposed to fix bugs

[quick coyote]

these little changes shouldnt be taking so longgggg my god

[main lava]

nerf sword speed and damage xdddddddddddddd

[vernal steppe]

other than issues with intel cpu in the past I havent had lag or stuttering issues for quite a while but now after the update yesterday, my lag has been absurd

[hallow mango]

hi

[magic stratus]

I swear Kyoto has been featured in WT more than Fortune Stadium 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[nimble pond]

I still like Kyoto so i c this as an absolute w

[delicate scarab]

Is it possible to add a confirmation button when we start a ranked game to unsure that we won't, firstly, missclicked on the game mode, secondly, to ensure that all people here really want to reach The Finals. Just an idea. Thx.

[marsh root]

true hhahahaa

[grim latch]

add a wingman mode, 2 v 2 cashout, quicker spawns. first to secure 2 cashouts win.

[analog hearth]

nice spawn

[quick coyote]

plz fix these crashes i cant even play

[lilac coral]

What you playing on

[trail terrace]

add some more servers for asia embark, as a player from the indian subcontinent the latency is horrible for me and im already voting for this game with my wallet

[smoky sluice]

@uneven dagger you know it’s not true

[hallow mango]

heyI should be ranked soon

[mild wave]

Add powershift to world tour (to get selected randomly), it could make wt a bit more fun and diverse

[tired bear]

thats a device issue, try lowering your graphics

[vapid drum]

Rework Revolver:
remove ads and turn into a fanfire but have (medium bullet spread and dmg reduce )and no HeadShots and hip fire being reg fire with no bullet spread and can deal headshots dmg.

[upper citrus]

The answer is to listen to my response and nobody else’s

[plush fjord]

Maybe the community loves kyoto ALOT, which is probably why embark is putting it in world tour map list like hell.
Iguess theres no other explanation possible

I am really sorry my dear fellow finalists, i should have realized the gem of a map kyoto is

Not saying they should remove it from the entire game itself

[regal stratus]

but the fan fire would be pretty damn strong no ? each bullet is 79 dmg idk i actually love that idea but i would legit miss my ads XDD but thats just my 2 cents

[echo urchin]

Defib nerf: as a M main; enemy should respawn with an empty mag, 10% health, and be stunned for 30s.

Heal beam: it should take health away from the person healing and highlight the person being healed with a sonar effect

Model: pellet spread should be RNG and every third shell should fire an apology to the enemy.

Winch: it should have a 3m range, 20s wind up, and a 3min cd, it should also pull the enemy in for a hug that heals them.

Charge and Slam: I main H but it should do zero damage and knock enemies back gently enough for them to accurately mag dump; the charge should also be slow enough for them to easily dodge, and the slam should do self damage.

Invis: they should be visible

Dash: even us L mains think we should only get one. 2 minute cd.

Sword: I don’t understand why this weapon that is literally useless except in really close range, is so dominant in really close range. Nerf it so it’s always useless or I’m telling my mom.

Turrets: 50 health, no lock on, they just fire in the same spot until they run out of ammo. One mag.

Mines and traps: they should trigger a pop-up that says “are you sure you want to step on that?”, and give the player the option to say no.

Grenades: they should ask the enemies permission before exploding.

APS: that’s it, that’s the joke. The APS.

The game isn’t balanced until the off meta weapon that I main is viable in top 50 lobbies. Anything that counters my loadout is bullshit.

Destruction is too RNG, get rid of destruction.

Honestly, anything in the game that is fun, novel, or at all challenging should be removed. Something something, low gravity, moving platforms, suspended structures, sandstorm Vegas, etc. but also, in game events are boring as fuck and need to be more interesting. No i won’t provide any examples.

[obsidian timber]

I have a contract to get 15k.... I did 6k damage in one game and you gave me 2k towards that contract. Math isn't mathing

[wide void]

Just you, friend. TKs are outclassed by M11, LH1, double barrel, etc. when aimed properly.

[mental blaze]

Something I’ve thought of for a while is that the flamethrower should be an “ultimate” ability like charge and slam with it going on cooldown before reloading like the rocket launcher. It has a lot of ammo, lights players on fire, does a lot of damage, and can set the environment on fire. I just feel like it’s too strong to be a regular primary weapon. Just a thought tho, not sure how that’d affect balancing

[bleak nexus]

Powershift shows you get money by pushing the platform. Then it should give it as stats and challenge progress as well!

[tired bear]

man the knives are crazy rn

[quick coyote]

The bonus page grind requirement makes me want to uninstall the game.

[umbral bough]

Yes

[lilac coral]

They always give double xp on the last week but I get you it’s a tough grind

[pseudo leaf]

dmg and combat score isn't the same thing. HS and crits gives double combat score.

[red arch]

no changes to WT? wasn't it supposed to be an experimental cashout platform or something, what's the point of having 2 almost identical gamemodes

[tulip steppe]

Nothing like starting starting your first wt match and going up against a lobby full of emerald mediums all running model 🚮

[wooden atlas]

My Finals life in a nutshell

[sage pewter]

plz help me i'm done with this potato guy who explains me everything after every game and every time he pisses me off ( this guy : )

[tired bear]

what happened then..?

[surreal meadow]

ik im using winch but holy fuck

[primal mantle]

Add a grenade threat indicator for fragmentation grenades

[mortal notch]

Remember what the devs (a dev) thinks about our issues with the game including balancing ideas,Fomo,bugs etc (specifically model and fomo was brought up In the covo)
Edit:also even the cosmetics feels lazy this week with re releases and re skins
Hop off arc raiders no one’s gonna buy that shit

[pseudo leaf]

let us vote for if some one cheats in our game to kick him or turn him into a frog or something because i am seeing shit ton of cheaters that boosts other bad players. IF IT IS IN OUR TEAM BECAUSE I AM PISSED WHEN THEY ARE IN MY TEAM TOO AND THIS GAME HAS NO IN GAME BANNING

[split ermine]

An Option would be appreciated to create the emoute wheels etc for all contestants. I like mine unified but doing it everytime I create another contestant is anoying ^^

[sharp estuary]

#RemoveKyoto

[blissful smelt]

Nice idea, like in MGO2 ages ago. (vote for kicking lol)

I AM ALMOST SURE that all those L - UZI players that lands on me, while running a 90% of bullets it's a aimbot or assiste aim user.
Or is that weapon so bad balanced having both no recoil & range? It is an UZI

[mortal notch]

This was shown at the golden joystick awards
That looks like a new
Shotgun for med
W embark adding more slop to the game

[surreal meadow]

where

@distant crane what

[distant crane]

That more like a skin for db

[mild veldt]

Oh no, please, give a pump action for the med and nuke model from the game

[lament depot]

let's get FSR 3

[delicate basin]

And then they nerf dual blades

[kindred current]

Why is everytime embark add something amazing in game and then start nerfing it, it's so annoying, it's almost impossible to get a 1 v 3 no matter which class you are using, all the weapons should be based on their real life damage instead of you trying to maintain the balance you guys should be providing realistic gun play, like why the heck AK-47 have less damage then Mp5, akm bullets can easily pierce bullet proof jackets , even helicopters sometimes, but in game it have the worst DPS. Stop Nerfing the good stuff and also add aim assist for PC players. Aiming with a mouse is not as easy as it looks.

[tired fable]

reality is not always a good gamedesign

[wide void]

Bro, if you want "realistic gunplay," stop playing a game that's literally virtual in-universe. You can delete roofs and run through concrete walls, and your damn issue is the AKM does less DPS than the XP-54? Let us have fun and unique designs and gunplay instead of your Counter-Strike design where almost every single weapon kills in a single shot

And no, AKM does 4 more damage per bullet than XP-54.

[simple quiver]

Please bring back cashout or have a mode where it's just two teams against one cashbox. The original mode is fun but third partying ruins it for me personally.

[untold hazel]

nerf turret

[red echo]

THERE IS STILL TIME LEFT PLS DONT ADD A 2ND SHOTGUN FOR MEDIUM

[hollow ore]

Not sure how matchmaking rank works but I dislike the idea of getting teammates who played bad because I played good I did a bit of testing and either just luck but Everytime i did terrible aka got no kills and a got killed a lot id be put in a team with great teammates but when I do normal match not to honk my own but I get like 12 kills each round I’d get terrible teammates the next game and if it’s true I dislike the idea of me having to have teammates to “carry” because usually they leave the games because they die a lot

[candid crystal]

Acuta un-installed, yall fucked up

[mortal notch]

Unless they completely changed the base model it’s not
@echo urchin
Are you ok? He said db as in the sh1900??
I said base model as in the model of the gun
The db model significantly different than the gun in the trailer
@echo urchin ??? Ok?

[lost talon]

this will kill the game, you don't need me to tell you why; you already saw it once in a system where the ceiling was a lot higher. Nobody reads this anyway.

[echo urchin]

Well, it ain’t no pump action. That’s a break action double barrel.

@mortal notch lmao, db stands for double barrel, the sh1900 is a break action double barrel shotgun. The dough skin for the 1887 is significantly different than all the other skins, it’s still the same gun. Jfc.

@mortal notch You claimed that it’s probably an entirely new gun for the medium while he’s saying it could just be a skin for the break action double barrel shotgun that’s already in the game , and your retort was that unless they totally changed the base model then he’s wrong. Except, the dough wrangler skin already totally changes the aesthetic of a gun while still remaining the exact same gun and therefore it is totally possible that this is just a skin for the break action double barrel shotgun that’s already in the game. It’s literally the exact same gun, but the barrels are slightly longer..

[uneven rampart]

Vegetable pack!

Dual Swords? Dual Leeks! Swing your Leeks around and give them your favorite flavour.

Grenade: Tomato / Cabbage

Throwing Knives = Carrots

RPG = Potato Launcher

And a bunch of posters telling eggs to eat green

[daring fossil]

I don't understand, barely anybody uses the double-barrel. It's the worst melee weapon in the game, I should know, I main it.

[marsh oriole]

Stun gun isn’t giving me interruption progress for interrupt challenge

[raw summit]

Fix spawns when the game has less than 2 minutes remaining or even just 1 minute. It's pretty cheeks that if there's a cashout near completion the game will spawn you across the map near the new vault spawn. Which normally is fine. But when there's a minute or so remaining and you wipe, coming back and being spawned 200m from the nearest vault and 170m from the cashout you were just at feels like a big go fuck yourself to your team and an immediate loss even with 45 seconds left on the clock. Give teams more chances to make game saving plays in the final moments, isn't that what this game is about?

[quick coyote]

This tee's mentions Kyoto's wrong year, it's supposed to be 1568 (unless this is intentional and there's a new map variant on the way)

[wide void]

Nah, that's definitely a mistake. And a really terrible one at that lol

[silent fog]

Fix the fucking spawns and please get better anti cheat ffs
The spawns are so incredibly fucking garbage right now it's ruining the game

[surreal meadow]

YES
2 Team Cash variant gamemode
My friends who left the game also wanted this
Embark says they have a casual game, but doesnt add simpler gamemodes to segway the new playerbase into cashout - then wonder why the game is getting so sweaty when they cant retain casuals

2 team cash variant please embark

[kindred current]

You have a point, CS2 is no fun at all, you don't even get to know how you died lol, 🤣 the finals is very fun to play but the weapons should at least be a little more deadly, and also I hope light get 200 HP in next season, 150HP is really fustrating, you die even with a gust of wind 🌬️, you know what I mean lol 😂

[quick coyote]

How many frames on PS4?
https://x.com/thefinalsonly/status/1859671005553361106

The Finals Only (@thefinalsonly) on X

The Finals is launching on PlayStation 4 on December 12th, alongside Season 5.

(Via @GoldenJoysticks)

Twitter · Nov 21, 2024, 6:51 PM

[keen lily]

this game is absolutely idiotic, you say you improved the cheater detection rule yet an obvious cheater does not get banned in a ranked game until the end of the 2nd round, while his team is already through to the final and gains ranked points anyway. idiot devs, quit your jobs and start doing something valuable like collecting garbage, it would be better for everyone than making this crap

@latent charm surprisingly I do. and get some skill boy, once you do that and get to the higher ranks you'll find out yourself how frustrating it is, especially with this seasons absolutely trash ranked system. if you need something to defend maybe try to find someone in your area who needs protection, not dumb devs of this game xD

[polar blaze]

Prolly around 7

[dapper phoenix]

I know that this rant will be buried here and I'm fine with that but if I won't speak up you will continue with this challenge...

Dear Embark, INTERRUPTING CASHOUT CHALLENGE IS NOT FUN, IT'S NOT A CHALLENGE, IT'S A WAITING EXERCISE FOR RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES.

You gave me this challenge once in this season. Okay, I'm fine with that. It was hard, I've done it. I hated it in the process, but okay.

Now you giving me this challenge AGAIN. I thought you saw countless complaints about this challenge and removed it, but here it is.

Okay, let me reiterate problems with it:

1. It punishes being good. What if my team is so efficient that no one is even not capable of trying to steal from us? What if our team practices late steals? No, you have to start cashout and patiently wait for someone to come closer, start stealing and only after that you can start resisting. And you teammates have to just be fine with that.

2. It registers badly.
   Goo gun? No.
   Dematerializer? No.
   Just shoot till dude stops? Nope.
   The only reliable way to make it count is stun gun.
   So am I understanding you correctly, in this amazing action game I have to patiently sit in a corner waiting for right circumstances to stun dude. And I have to do it TEN times one more time?

I enjoy this game, I bought battle passes, I play it almost every day, I'm advertising this game to all my friends. And I understand that your main focus is to make people return to the game over and over.

But this challenge - it ain't it, chief. I don't really care about skin, I care about challenge and when challenge is bugged and promotes only certain cowardly playstyle - nah, dude, I'm gonna skip it. So, no point in playing, right?

I really enjoy this game but this challenge is so demotivating, so I guess I will be touching some grass.

[signal willow]

has anyone completed the battle pass yet? for last 2 pages you need 1 MILLION xp, but daily challenges only give 7.5k and weekly ones 48k? man I know these are extra pages, but 100k for some black boots is way too much, what is is this a 9-5? You guys either make the last 2 pages 50k or 75k xp per level or increase the amount of xp that challenges give. I mean the stuff looks awesome but with only 21 days left of season, it seems impossible to complete.
@granite vector damn how many hours do you play daily

[latent charm]

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to detect cheats? Or you just write because you have internet.

[granite vector]

i have

[charred ivy]

Its nice to see that even though the shotgun was "nerfed" it just became pretty much stronger. It is so stupidly giga busted.

[marsh oriole]

Game just glitched out so hard I lost a world tour, had the cash out stollen but didn’t complete the steal, was on it with the steal bar completed for 4 extra seconds

[dusky knoll]

ADD MERMAID COSMETICS PLS

[raw summit]

Go play siege or something bruh. I frankly do not want to die to a single bullet to the head from any gun in a game with chaotic gun fights. Realism in gunplay is meant for tactical shooters. This is very obviously NOT a tactical shooter. If you add realistic gunplay into The Finals the game would actually die. You can't pick and choose which ones deal real life damage, so you're now adding snipers head shotting heavies in one shot across the map, same with pike, lh1, deagles, any gun that is accurate at that range really. Think before you type homie

[daring fossil]

dude literally asked for aim assist for mouse, opinion invalid lol

[wide void]

If it's of any consolation, Embark agrees that Light is statistically weak and has a poor winrate. They'll probably tweak their weapons and such.

@latent charm Step 1... Stop relying purely on detecting the client machine's code. Ban anyone who hits 99% of their shots every game with every weapon. Cheat detection will never be perfect, but many companies are getting lazy about it.

@dapper phoenix Amen. The interrupt challenge is dogshit. Should have never been conceived, let alone coded.

[rapid stream]

2 if its kyoto

[keen abyss]

What is this?

[finite galleon]

oh boy i sure love a meta dominated by a shotgun for 2 seasons straight just to get another shotgun.

yall actually something else, that's wild

[tidal jungle]

I'd second that if the medium and heavy get similar HP buffs.

[thorny lynx]

I literally laughed out loud at this

[real prawn]

fix the spawns, bring them back from s2

meta is 3 mediums anyways so like you can traverse that 200m in about 25 seconds

[serene perch]

Just make it so people stop spawning LITERALLY BEHIND ME.
I had a game today where I stole a moving platform cashout because I spawned 30 m away from it when there was only one guy up from winning his teamfight. I genuinely felt so bad, like why does the game do this. It feels like it's coded to encourage third parties, and to make one team just not play the game

[delicate surge]

Hello everyone,
I have a suggestion to improve the goo gun specialization on the heavy.
We could use the secondary action to create a goo barricade, like a goo grenade barricade.

More explanation here : https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1gwnxn5/goo_gun_improvement_idea_complete_explanation/

(I don't rewrite here to avoid a long chat text : )

[daring fossil]

I can't even tolerate playing enough games to do my dailies anymore, improve the fucking netcode it's so infuriatingly bad.

[granite kettle]

best game, would be cool if there was endorsements like endorseing one of ur team mates

[stoic drift]

The CL-40 has gotta get reverted it is useless right now

[drifting belfry]

The Finals needs something like what Nadeo did with TrackMania in 2006 (TrackMania Nations ESWC), a season that has a bit of focus on eSports. It would sound bad for a casual player if not done properly, but it would be silly for a game about a worldwide game show not to have a thriving competitive scene 🙏. Anyways the game is already fun with all the goofy stuff we have in it, and I hope there'll be more of that too!

[silent fog]

Lets give the class with support, also the best gun in the game and then refuse to nerf it for over 2 fucking seasons.

@upper citrus yeah I seen this... I want this game to succeed but I don't think they want it to...

[upper citrus]

Hey don’t worry it’ll be okay…

CAUSE THEYRE DOIN IT AGAIN 🗣️ 🔥

[cunning warren]

Every lobby diamond/ruby got atleast 1 cheater, the state of this is out of control, and you are not doing a shit

[median pawn]

My daily feedback to add a leave punishment system, and an auto spawn system, if you're afk-ing in the selection screen.

Too many games I play where people just leave, to avoid losses going to their records

[fleet timber]

Who creates such annoying quests?
just give an opportunity to reroll quests
And why u like give quests like ...kill in 35 meters ...kill in 50 meters in head, now its with gadgets
what I must to do to make this freak quest to mine place and go away wish me luck

[small flint]

why even create a gun like th epike when it's so forking shiet

[muted fog]

Anyone else experiencing server lag ? Like too often. Console and PC?

[small dawn]

Bank it is an original mode yet doesn’t have ranked. This game would be one of my main games if bank it were on ranked

[rocky plover]

Buff C4, Buff the RPG and KS23 Destruction wise

[lost talon]

https://youtu.be/AKTFNNgP7sk

[rapid rover]

Please for the love of god bring the m4 to season 5

[tired fable]

i never have so LITTLE fun today, solo q is TERRIBLE

[regal pasture]

My loadouts keep resetting since the last update, were there any issues reported regarding to this or is it just me?

[thick sorrel]

The Finals Shotguns Leaked Patch Notes 5.0.0

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added
• ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... it still 2 shots Lights at 15m😂
  **Real Fix: 2-Shots Lights and 3-Shots Heavys, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Defibrillated Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not Alan enough.

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Flash & Hulk
  Dev Note: We thought it fits the instant sprint activation and the damage level of Hulk Smash - usually used after RPG for a free kill.

Dual Blades

• Decreased Blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

[gritty umbra]

yeah solo players gotta get a mode at some point, ffa light only or some shit

[wary solar]

thoughts on glitch grenades destroying defibs holograms

[knotty smelt]

The icon for the cashout now appears in the center of the screen every time i die instead of just staying at the cashout. Is that a bug or a new feature? cause it's extremely disorienting.

[tropic idol]

There seems to be an equipment wheel bug on PS5, it’s inverted all of a sudden so I have to press up on the stick to select the bottom item and vice versa… hotfix on the way? 🤞

[smoky sluice]

@granite kettle S Tier Rage bait

[thorn kelp]

Medium Meta Model Mains

[granite kettle]

kyoto is the best map

[turbid glade]

Should we play to win? No lets delibritly play awful to get steal interrupts.

[scarlet robin]

Revolver could use more bodyshot dmg

[neon burrow]

If that new shotgun really is released on medium and its not shit, im deleting the game

[thin vault]

I feel that the invite and party system needs a lot of work. Notifications are silent and they're passing and even not there if a person's in a game already, or even not having the ability to enter someones party without an invite. It would be convenient if there was a notification history to look at the past party invitations that you have, being able to join a party mid game, but not leaving the match, maybe even be able to spectate your teammate while they're mid match, maybe a switch to go from contestant mode to spectator mode. While on this topic, be able to have a setting to let other people join my team without an invite, and be able to trust friends with inviting their friends into the team while you are still party leader.

[finite galleon]

embark when they realize model has been dominating for 2 seasons straight so they potentially add an even more overpowered shotgun, i can't with this studio dude istg

[grand adder]

I can’t wait to get my hands on that new shotty it looks like a blast 💥

[carmine thistle]

Real after I saw the image it only cemented my leave from this game, now I'm fr just checking up on it
No gun changes like ever for the right weapons/classes

[silent fog]

The fact you didnt nerf the model when people asked for it since S2 is so fucking braindead.

[warm compass]

buff medium shield must to counter sowrd - buff mesh shield its usless

[grizzled mauve]

When is tis game stop giving minus points to those with teammates that quit midgame? i lost 600 points just like that

[vale stream]

I love crashing every game I play it truly is a great gaming experience

[spice zenith]

Please change and never bring it back, interrupting cash box weekly. It's so annoying you can only use taser or winch claw to interupt unless you are lucky enough for someone to keep holding down the button while you kill them. Almost kills my interest in trying to complete it

[brittle obsidian]

now that we know model nerf is going to coincide with the addition of an even more stupidly broken shotgun, can the new shotgun at least be gimmicky in some way so it doesn't instantly jump up to hard meta status like old pike and deagles?

[dusty igloo]

It has been 3 seasons since medium was deserving of a nerf to triple medium defib, there still has been no changes. There is no excuse for this shit Embark

[hearty bough]

Been begging for this, riot shield vs light sword is the worst matchup in the entire game, riot stands virtually no chance unless the sword player goes AFK mid fight

[delicate basin]

And best destruction....
And best movement....

[stable path]

as a riot shield main, i agree

[pearl cairn]

Devs gotta make a sonar grenade ospuze can skin

[edgy urchin]

🤡

[surreal meadow]

you forgot to get ur alt account to clown react me

[thick sorrel]

Nah, they nerf Model and give Medium a new Shotgun with even better stats 😂

[fallow gust]

Bring back the old dagger! The new one is too casual, and now players who have been playing for a long time are on the same level as beginners because the dagger can’t be fully utilized anymore. It makes aggressive play impossible by slowing down the character too much. At the very least, could you remove the slowdown effect on the dagger? Please bring back my favorite weapon—I can’t play like this 😭

[bitter iris]

make it so in world tour and ranked you are forced to run a heavy medium light team comp you shouldn't be able to run 3 three of any class it's way to oppressive and causes to many problems @hearty bough then just make a role queue system the problems with this game lye in the fact that you can have to much of one thing you can three defibs three dome/mesh three invisible light it creates a lots of problems for both players and devs it much harder to balance to a game if you have multiple people using the same thing

[hearty bough]

Then you end up with the overwatch problem of people fighting over roles and having to learn all 3 classes instead of having a clear main

[delicate basin]

Please add "bro????" to banned words.
This is very offensive and hurts my feelings.

[half inlet]

an option available in all game modes to blacklist maps (kyoto)

[echo urchin]

Heavies should get zip line

[fast mortar]

There should be a voting system before matches on the type of variation the map gets.

[quick coyote]

More specific region selection, eg: US West

[muted jungle]

Yo if Medium gets a new shotgun next season, even if they finally nerf model, that might kill this game. Like, how can you even think that's okay? lol. The model is currently as frustrating as it is overpowered to play against. Even using it isn't fun if you ask me. It singlehandedly dominates upper level medium play in its current state. Please don't introduce a second headache gun like that for the same class. Medium Model Meta has gotta go :c

[oak kernel]

It looks like a double barrel. I'm so excited to have light's double barrel on a beefier class

I really hope the theory that it's just a skin is correct man.

[night glen]

The fact that swords block 100% of shotgun fire is pretty stupid. I can see a reduction in damage, but blocking all of a shotgun? They are pellets, not a single bullet.

[edgy urchin]

dont u have anything else to do than reply to discord messages every chance u get? hop off damn

[nova solar]

#👂┇game-feedback more like… beef central 👍

[silent grove]

fr

[daring ravine]

Please enable Mouse and keyboard for consoles in s5! These cross play only lobbies in ranked are near impossible to progress on a controller. I can't get past 36,000 RS it's all PC lobby

[wide void]

Are you complaining about Dual Blades? Man, it's not realistic for them to deflect anything at all. Just let them block shotguns. It doesn't block 100% of the damage, anyway, and they perform terribly

[surreal meadow]

lmao

[lilac storm]

i think embark should stop adding more shotguns into the games or at least do it every 2 seasons we already got a op shotgun in season 4 why do we need another in season 5 + they are really annoying to deal with

[unborn tusk]

please, embark, just make the finals feel like the finals again. PLEASE! remember what the game used to feel like in season 1

[last path]

wait so the devs not only didnt try to stop the leak they reposted it? nice

[bold moth]

I really dont get why I can get a mediocre game of Bank It done and gain 1500 fans
and a near win in World Tour only gives 165
World Tour should give thousands of fans if you make it past 1st round
(although fans overall need to be more plentiful)

also
ADD MORE OPTIONS FOR WHAT COUNTS AS AN INTERUPT
DAMAGING A PLAYER BEFORE THEY STOP STEALING, STUNNING A PLAYER STEALING, AND MOVING THE BOX WHILE THEY'RE STEALING SHOULD ALL COUNT AS INTERRUPTS
NOBODY LIKES HOW ITS ONLY IF YOU KILL A PLAYER WHO IS STEALING A CASHOUT

[hexed grove]

Nerf the fucking model.

[pastel flax]

Would really love more map variety, specifically for Power Shift.

[sonic wigeon]

BUFF SNIPER -> MAKE IT 2 SHOT ANY1

[fading cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-how-about-no-austin-powers-gif-17640212

[solemn sedge]

Asking for the devs to incorporate an elevator into the season 5 map
Day 1

[abstract smelt]

Oh yeah definitely

[minor locust]

Can we get kills for flaming goo already, thank you

[smoky sluice]

flamingo skin for heavy is what they will add after reading that

@sleek night u have dual 4090??

[vapid drum]

Embark Please revolver rework season 5

[viscid raft]

remove kyoto

[sharp acorn]

I got an idea uhm maybe uhm NERF THE FKING MODEL

[simple hull]

how many times do we have to see this until it happens? Nerf the fucking thing

[native plinth]

dagger needs more visual indicator that it's charged up, during a fight I cant hear anything but gunshots... a glint when it's fully charged would be a nice QoL

[muted jungle]

^This guy spittin straight fire. also for the 1238.123004e^100th time pls nerf model :')

[fading cobalt]

Fire damage shouldn't be so RNG, imo.

The first instance of damage from a fire weapon/gadget should always apply a burn that lasts a set amount of time. Once it ends, there's a moment where you can't be burned, then the next hit from fire damage burns again.

The Flamethrower applies a unique burn, so they'd probably have to add a small multiplier to make sure that a Pyro Mine/Nade doesn't override it, or it just replaces the remaining time with the higher damage version.

[sleek night]

i think kyoto is fine map

[edgy lotus]

can they make a world tour that doesn't fucking suck

[vast hornet]

lf new season

[fleet socket]

Better sure WT only tells you the fans for that round not the whole tournament but still should be changed

[dreamy gull]

I’d like to see this gun in the finals

[quiet frost]

EMBARK PLEASE STOP GIVING ME NOOBS IN WT!!!!

[minor locust]

jesus christ, i think youre right

[rough storm]

Literally uninstalling after season 4 if the'y don't start listening to the PLAYER base and fixing the Model.

[thorn kelp]

Sniper needs a buff, js not that kind of buff

[brittle obsidian]

Add more gadgets please. OP gadgets are far safer to add than OP weapons, since gadgets need to contend with other gadgets in terms of utility and power. OP weapons on the other hand don't because you only get to equip one, and their primary utility is usually the same (killing people). Season 2's gadgets became some of my favorites in the whole game, because they play into the sandboxy nature of THE FINALS and allow for completely unique plays.

p.s. nerf model in a meaningful way please

[ashen pine]

Thank you for doing aztects like genuinely didn’t expect this route and i love it so much

[hexed grove]

Sounds like a bad idea.

[obsidian sail]

The experience playing against defib stacks is fucking ASS. There’s no convincing me otherwise. Just make the thing not have a pre-charge and you’ve solved 3/4 of the problem like holy fuck it’s that simple.

[wintry trout]

reported this weeks ago. still a typo, still doesn't work in all game modes.

[opaque glade]

Wow I know embark doesn’t get good or nice feedback here but I just want to say THANK YOU for changing the conditions on “interrupt 10 players stealing” contract ❤️😭😭 it became easier and now I don’t need to be light or heavy for all of this

[high ingot]

my game crashed during a ranked game while in the final round but i went down 2k rs and deranked from p4

[floral vault]

Or they play heavy or light?

[obsidian dragon]

pls make levels in battle pass not 100000k xp i have a life embark

[smoky sluice]

4090 owner spotted

[wide void]

Don't give them too much credit. The contract shouldn't exist in the first place lol. You shouldn't have to wait for them to start stealing in the first place.

[outer estuary]

Bring back the old dagger!!!!!

[tulip steppe]

Looks like we're getting another shotgun in S5.

@rough storm chill out man. It prolly won't be another model

[rough storm]

Looks like i'm gonna have to find me a new (actual skill based) FPS game

[hexed grove]

Honestly if it's a slug shotgun like the KS, I'm sure it would be okay.

[fleet socket]

Make meteor event happen more often or let other events get the bouncing achievement, I shouldn't have to feel like quitting cause wrong event just to platinum the game

[dark niche]

the dual blades do not need a nerf in any way
maybe it’s only for the riot shield but im pretty sure you can just shoot their feet

[glass fjord]

so what counts as interrupting the cashout? cause like... shooting them in the face doesnt apparently?

[jagged vector]

Separate console Xbox/ps from pc, pc has it so much easier than console

[frank holly]

FCAR damage buff

[tired bear]

whatever you do to stop them from doing so, like scaring them with a mine or moving the cashout with whatever tools you have to do so

[glass sequoia]

Pls move invite to party to anywhere other than it is right now. For the aesthetic, but also more importantly so it's not on my character's crotch.

[olive fulcrum]

Plz add more novel weapons to the game. :) for example KS23 , recurve bow, cl40, throwing knives. I’d like to see more diverse weaponry and not end up with a huge arsenal of hit-scan-esque guns that basically all do the same thing with different stats.

[faint saddle]

fix the god damn dagger charged running speed

[jagged cedar]

still waiting for the mid s1 patch that completely ruined goo barrels to be fixed

[obsidian sail]

Guy without defib

is the reason his team loses

Do you see the problem with this?

[hexed grove]

• Either decrease nade damage or add a nade indicator. The grenade spam is ridiculous at times and the damage they do when you can't even tell if you're standing on one is crazy.
• Nerf charge n' slam damage or increase the cooldown/make it easier to get out of the charge once hit.
• Nerf the model, this is getting brain numbing.
• Do something about MMM. Priority should be with chain defibbing, this shouldn't be a mechanic and makes it a 3v6 when dealing with triple medium teams.

[quick coyote]

Cant even find a powershift game on OCE servers this game is so dead
Quick cash is literally all we can play

[surreal meadow]

use or lose

[dense ivy]

Game is UNPLAYABLY laggy for no reason sometimes. PLEASE ADD MORE SERVERS.

I have a symmetrical 1gbps fiber connection, and I get 20ms or less to apex servers. This is complete and utter horseshit

But then it feels like I’m playing on 250ms+ for this game??!? I can’t tell because I’m on console and of course the ping isn’t displayed for some idiotic reason. This is 100% going to push me away from this game and it’s so incredibly upsetting

[young shoal]

grenade indicators

[tidal jungle]

Nerf the model 1887?

[woeful hill]

they fixed dash to where now emoting trick won't work...

Like what 😭

[quartz shell]

is that me or everyone is thirdpartying right now?

[analog hearth]

I would like this one

[glossy ravine]

more pant, and less jacket please !

[wild verge]

I really appreciate the nerfs medium gets and not lights!!! I think its totally balanced to do 400 dmg with a double barrel

[last vortex]

Cashbox pok-a-tok with the new season coming out would be very cool

[thorn kelp]

Some buffs I would like to see for Gadgets are

• Pyro Grenade (Increased radius)

• Pyro Mine (Increased radius)

• Data Reshaper (Fix Barrel rotation and allow the Dome Shield to be reshaped outside of the shield)

• Dome Shield (Increased health. No more than 50 at least)

• Glitch Grenade (Allow for cancelation of a Defib revive when the explosion hits their build-up hologram)

• Glitchtrap (Allow to work like a Glitch Grenade with the added AOE effect. Immediately aftee the triggered explosion, the trap dissappears)

• Thermal Vision (Team color'd vision please)

[tired bear]

thank god
i hate exploiters

[quick coyote]

Add an option to press a singular button to steal/revive instead of holding since you guys can't make it so that holding isn't interrupted by nothing.

[smoky sluice]

fcar has highest dps of all assault rifles allready

[young smelt]

this season is way too grindy

[lyric frost]

nerf model

[odd ibex]

Barely see it in matches ,get better kid

[tulip steppe]

Depends on what game mode u play. It's everywhere in ranked and wt

[viscid raft]

400 hour statement tbh

[iron bough]

Ranked and WT = Low Self esteem = Cheaters = Model Spam.

[wide void]

And red canisters. After hundreds of hours, I STILL cannot get those stupid things to detonate when hitting walls reliably. Sometimes I'll throw one 3 times and it'll still slide around before exploding. Why the hell can't they just explode the first time they hit a wall, period?

[crude brook]

increase charge cooldown

[obsidian sail]

Anything like that is pure trash balance

[surreal meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/amen-anchorman-will-ferrell-gif-10865461

[wild verge]

throwing knives are really balanced with infinite ammo and no type of reload / cooldown

[fervent coral]

This a lie, if u watched their pro sports stuff for even 1 minute u see every medium using model

[jolly pasture]

It needs to be easier to track individual progress for community events. I don't even know what I have to do for this one. Do I need to simply steal a cashout? Do I need to steal a cashout in the final minute? I'm trying to hit it and quit it here folks.

[wide void]

@wild verge Yeah, because they're arcing, limited-range projectiles with windup and slow TTKs. The cooldown is their firerate.

TKs are rarely used because they're outclassed by the guns when you can aim them. Even Sword is more reliable.

[frank holly]

it literally has the lowest lmao

[shell raven]

i know pike was busted but it got nerfed too hard i think, it doesn't hit hard enough for its fire rate and you would be better off taking an AK/FCAR for any sort of medium range fight. the only range where I feel like I would have an advantage would be at such a great range that I wouldn't be helping my team

[full bronze]

Are we supposed to earn cash from powershift? I didnt get any for the "any game modes" contract

[midnight aurora]

make body paints apply to the crash test dummy head

[mint surge]

Holding down for dagger is frustrating.

[wild verge]

i also sit in a game feedback channel and reply with my invalid opinions all day

[wispy ermine]

turbo bonus xp in the last 2 weeks to compensate for shorter season, to maybe finish bonus pages?? 🙏

[real prawn]

fix the spawns

[wide void]

Yeah, cool projection, buddy. Not a single counterargument in sight.

The devs themselves said Light has a low winrate, and anybody beyond Gold in Ranked can attest to Light being rarely seen. But sure, the arcing projectiles with wind up are the bane of all balance issues. What, gonna complain about Recurve Bow next?

Let me know when you get out of Plastic 4 and encounter someone hitting more than half their shots with M11/LH1/SH1900/V9S. Stay mad.

[balmy kraken]

bro i literally get disconnected multiple times a game 😦

[smoky sluice]

fcar dps= 132
akm dps= 120
famas dps= 94.08

also the fcar has the fastest reload of them (1.8 sec)

[idle crypt]

PLEASE. with the next season. PLEASE. i will pay serious money. please add hispanic/latino faces. EMBARK ADD THEM AND MY LIFE IS YOURSSS. im going to be in shock for next season to be using a aztec outfit only for them to NOT add a hispanic face to go along with it. i dont even care if i need to pay to unlock the faces. i will pay. just give me a smidge of representation EMBARK PLEASE. over 70% of my blood is from indigenous ppl from central and south america. im overjoyed to see an aztec outfit. i hope to god they follow through with the additon

[surreal meadow]

@wild verge
i love seeing light in my lobby only to be destroyed by third parties, HHM meta, Sustain meta, models, any mines, crappy sight lines, DB 1 tap, dagger 1 tap, SR84 1 tap, M26 combo 1 tap, Bow combo 1 tap, Sword combo 1 tap, TK alt HS 1 tap, frags deleting 99% of HP, turret denying regen, Model combo 1 tap, Famas HS 1 burst, R.357 HS combo 1 tap, Hammer alt 1 tap, random barrels exploding, a simple utility countering an entire specialization of cloak - i can go on

Light is too volatile across the different elos
~ Low elo light dominates cause noone controls recoil properly, knows audio/visual queues, and gets overwhelmed with the map destruction/audio. including a tiny hitbox making it extremely hard to hit, invisible, & move fastest in the game
~ High elo, light has 150HP - so "GG go next"
Light is ultimately too different in its elos. It needs a revision to be fair for all levels

@idle crypt preach

[plain jacinth]

Y’all all taking it to seriously, ranked in this game is a joke if there aren’t separate lobbies for solo players

[rotund sluice]

we 100% need more unique / novel guns. More milsim tacticool guns is boring. Personally, adding more guns with projectiles which require you to learn the bullet drop would add to the skill expression and feel more unique. The bow, CL40, RPG, KS-23 are all perfect examples. Personally, I think a season with futuristic sc-fi theme where you could add energy weapons has a lot of potential. Frees you up from standard physics, so the creativity can be around unique game mechanics without needing to awkwardly tack on real-world expectations to it.

[mellow geyser]

Trying to put barricades down and they are orange for no friggin’ reason is not fun. Please add this to my lengthy list of the crap that’s not any fun in your game. Thank you.

[rough storm]

Model 1887 is being abused and is killing this game with it's tripple Defib/rezz gang. Only thing i come across and get killed by LITERALLY: Model Model Model Model Sword Nade Model Model Sword Model Nade

[echo urchin]

Nerf the model’s range, a lot

[odd ibex]

Oh I see I play only quick cash

[stiff vale]

add more anime girls

[scenic goblet]

Add 120hz for consoles

[proven vale]

Can we please add a feature to see teammates stats ? I'm tired of playing with complete bots that are nowhere my level

[cold scarab]

please

[lavish moon]

Please add 120fps support for ps5 I'm pretty sure it can run 1080p 120 fps.

[burnt notch]

They have 2 already, but they could def do with more

[sturdy hawk]

bro fix your servers i just lost a wt final because of yalls shitty servers how are yall gonna work on another game when the one you got has turned to bunnsssss

[sonic arrow]

Hear me out: HEAVY MINIGUN

[surreal meadow]

please ive been wanting this for so long. keep it in line with Lewis/M60 and it would be a perfect addition as a primary weapon

[wild verge]

🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

[vapid drum]

Embark please Rework Revolver

[jagged vector]

Guys Embark can’t give 2 shits about this server. We are complaining/giving suggestions to a wall. They just want our money

[oak kernel]

add silly shit, like a sling

[unborn garnet]

No sever updates? All of s4 has been horrendous sever issues

[smoky sluice]

@misty rock nope, got a 3080, i’m spamming it cause the map is bad in every aspect except making screenshots for a wallpaper and because all of my friends quit playing because of maps like that that make their game run at 30fps

[fervent coral]

One thing I will forever hate is how good stops me from moving

[quick coyote]

are we still not gonna fix this crashing issue i still cant play can we update asap please

[misty imp]

“Interrupt opponents stealing” is such a BS challenge, got it on week 3 of engimo circuit and still only at 9/10 after playing world tour all season & just got it again for week 3 of iseul-t circuit. Looks like I’m going to be missing out on rewards 👍

[tired bear]

the servers are acting up for me

[frozen tree]

I got a circuit mission that says I need to get $1 million, could it get nerfed? Because based on my player data I would have to play 19 hours for that single quest, and I think that that’s a little bit excessive

[rough storm]

I'm completely done with this game. Why would i bother losing literally EVERY final to 1 - 2 Model players while devs completely ignore their customers who actually play the game, claiming Model is good as it is..? 👁️ 👄 👁️
Im just gonna look for a FPS where you can actually queue with random's and have fun + in which it's skill over luck in stead of whatever the fk this Plug and steal tripple medium model meta became.
RIP Season 2 Finals. Nor ranks nor plays mean anything anymore while it would have been so easily fixed/reverted.
Too bad I invested so much time and even money in this game. That's the whole enraging part of it all.
Well done development team: The Models.., I mean The finals lost all meaning and literally became a meta joke. Keep on pushing random downgrades 👏 .

[rotund sluice]

sling as a spec, turn all carriables into higher potency and transform average objects into new things, similar to data reshaper.

[frank holly]

I don't know where you got your numbers from...
The AKM is 206 dps (damage per second)
The FCAR is 212 (basically the same as AKM, but since FCAR has a massive kick in the recoil making you miss shots sometimes...)
Famas is anywhere between 216 or 288 depending on whether is gets 3 or 4 bursts off in 1 second

[clever hawk]

‘Performance update’ yet I have to wait 2 minutes for the game to start up and get stuck in an infinite loading screen after a match 😂

Game needs incubation for a year

[real prawn]

pls fix the spawns

[quaint forge]

Idk how y’all asking for light buff, how about you guys learn to stick together

[smoky sluice]

sorry i miss calculated, akm does 20 damage to body with 600 rpm that’s 10 shots per second so 200 dps, Fcar does 22 damage to body, also 600 rpm = 220 dps, but still the fcar has a much faster reload so if you consider that the dps of the ak is even lower if u have to reload, it’s the better gun overall, u just need to controll recoil better

[unborn garnet]

New severs when?

[midnight aurora]

if theres more time left on the team respawn than the cashout just end the game

[versed cloud]

Nerf triple medium

[cobalt saffron]

Every single game mode is the same except power shift and power shift doesn't get any respect. All the cash box bs has to stop. This game is turning into shit that was eaten and thrown up and eaten again. The only good game mode is power shift. Cashbox world tour terminal are ALL THE SAME! Whoever thought of the game modes is a moron.

[tulip steppe]

Wow.

[olive fulcrum]

Yeah definitely. I want alt fires, guns that can charge up for different effects.
Many guns from Unreal tournament would fit so well. Give me a Bio Gun :)

[prime grove]

pls up the range on the guns a bit i would like to see some long range fights at like close to 50 -80 m range up the akm and fcar range pls also do the same for the lmgs ,reduce for shotguns and smgs to be only good very close up otherwise good game W KEEP COOKING and pls you need to have good vertical dense compact maps with a lot of super pads and super zips

[mortal notch]

New game when
This shits ass
We need the finals 2

[wild verge]

god i love how overpowered light is when the class is supposed to be "light"

(light class with competent developers) = light weapons that aren't the best in the game because you chose movement instead of strength

(embark) = most overpowered kit possible to choose from no point picking medium or heavy

[lyric whale]

dog ur just flat out wrong in any level above like silver light is not great, it takes a very skillful coordinated team to use light effectively

[rotund sluice]

lights are the worst class when it comes to winning cashout, if you're getting reliably stomped by a player its a skill diff

[barren silo]

Have the devs ever played their own game for more than 10 minutes?

[polar blaze]

Light classes are the glass cannons. They are the flankers/long range classes. They excel at short duration close combat or long distance combat. That’s literally what they are SUPPOSED to be. There are so many other games that support this dynamic. If you are getting out maneuvered by a light and getting killed quickly at close range then you are the intended target. Lights are supposed to focus on the unsuspecting players do a lot of damage and get out without giving that person time to react. I agree some light builds are strong but so are some medium builds and some heavy builds.

[hazy shore]

oh bless your heart

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[patent rapids]

So... how do we know if we contributed to the community event? Will a tracker pop up when you get 1? Also is it team based or just you holding the button? And is it last minute of the round or last minute of the cashout?

[tired sonnet]

Please buff the solo queuers IQ, there has been an ongoing issue since launch were solo queuers are unable to utilize their thinking capabilities. Just elevate it slightly so they can at least shoot at moving targets, this way solo queuing would become more enjoyable for the fan base. Thank you ❤️

[grim knoll]

Please make it so that others can see you spin in the lobby 🙏

[jagged vector]

What if there was mode just for solo queue that was like world tour, that would be sick and you can only play by yourself

[smoky sluice]

light is so weak, almost no one uses it in ranked anymore, it’s just good against bad players, anyone else will just place a glitch trap and the light is useless 😂 @wild verge as you can read next to my name i’m medium main, didn’t play light in ranked since season 2 😂

[wild verge]

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[brittle obsidian]

all the light mains swapped to med because its better+easier

[hexed frigate]

put an animation pack for the double barrell shotgun, its a weapon you constanly reload, so, an animation pack could be cool

[lyric whale]

i exclusively play heavy my dude just cope

[dry plover]

Please Rework Revolver Embark

[torpid quarry]

Finally i get trammates with no life

[shy smelt]

PLEASE NERF THE RANGE/FALLOFF ON THE FLAMETHROWER I AM SOOOO TIRED OF HMM HEALSPAM AND FIGHTING AGAINST BORING W+M1 PLAYERS

[sonic spoke]

game is running like shit since the update

[tame hamlet]

You guys should add art the clown as a player skin

[torpid ginkgo]

grenade launcher is not useable, both of them

[serene perch]

Almost like medium is kinda bonkers right now, especially when stacked

[real prawn]

fix the spawns

[smoky sluice]

medium is absolutely op rn yes, the closer you get to diamond the more you will see tripple medium with tripple model and nothing else

[mental blaze]

Can grenades get some kind of audio queue when landing near you or something along those lines cause I have zero clue when I'm about to die unless I actively watch the person throw it at me lol

[cold bolt]

this game's rs system is a joke, why do I lose so much rs for a first round loss when it takes 3x the effort and time to win that very same amount of elo

and why are the top top players elo protected, they literally cannot lose more than like 2 digit elo even in a first round

also for the 50th time acknowledge and fix the spawns, third partying is at an all time high and general flow of matches is in the pits

[fleet socket]

Flamethrower is 7m range, how much closer to melee do we need to be?

[mortal notch]

Your objectively wrong light does not have the most op kit and embark balances guns on a dps:health ratio
Also you clearly haven’t played past silver and do not have a lot of hours please come back after you figure out you have arms
Skill diff tho ngl

[mental blaze]

Light class is the definition of a glass cannon lol

[serene perch]

Thank fuck, the CL was good at the beginning of the season and it was so unfun to play against. The CL being good just makes jumppad medium even better, but has the side effect of basically flashbanging whoever you are shooting at because the dust from the explosions makes it hard to see and the nonstop explosion sounds make it impossible to listen for anything

[raw summit]

Would be cool if there was a way to NOT give me 4k rated players on my team when I'm at 25k. That'd be cool. Ya know what's not cool? Placing 8th cuz I got someone FAR rated below me and losing 1400 points

[mortal notch]

If the new shotgun for med isn’t a drilling ima eat a brick

[wild verge]

It's huge fun to be dead instantly before my medium weapon can kill a light. Really balanced... ig im supposed to have aimbot and an extra 500 health to kill them before they teleport away

[hollow ore]

Is seeding bs? Like honestly I just lost 300 rs in a 8th seed in silver…

[unborn garnet]

Bruh nerf the model
You shouldn't be able to shot melee to skip animation

[dense ivy]

Game is UNPLAYABLY laggy for no reason sometimes. PLEASE ADD MORE SERVERS.

I have a symmetrical 1gbps fiber connection, and I get 20ms or less to apex servers. This is complete and utter horseshit

But then it feels like I’m playing on 250ms+ for this game??!? I can’t tell because I’m on console and of course the ping isn’t displayed for some idiotic reason. This is 100% going to push me away from this game and it’s so incredibly upsetting

[cold bolt]

• nerf model already game meta is stale, and please don't let the triple barrel be literally model 2.0
• fix spawns worst third partying in game's history despite devs claiming the new spawns help fix it, game flow is horrid
• improve Kyoto traversal
• I shouldn't need to put in 3x the time and effort to win a tourney for the same amount a first round loss is worth

[real prawn]

-nerf model already game meta is stale, and please don't let the triple barrel be literally model 2.0
-fix spawns worst third partying in game's history despite devs claiming the new spawns help fix it, game flow is horrid
-improve Kyoto traversal

[serene perch]

You guys keep saying "just nerf model" but how?
I think they should just make it's damage falloff a lot harsher, make it start at like 15m and immediately drop like to like 40% damage.

[wide void]

all they have to do is reduce damage to 120. 1 less damage per pellet. then it can't 2-shot M (without qmelee) and is a little harder to 3-shot H with.

[stable sphinx]

Hey, if we have a video of a cheater can we send it to the devs?

[torpid quarry]

This tour stop should be renamed: Skyway/Kyoto 24/7

[uneven dagger]

Rename this chat to the bitchbaby bunch

[dry plover]

Please Revolver Rework, Give revolver a Fanning quick draw move for enemy that is close. The Speed of shooting a revolver is really bad when in close combat because it's slow.

[candid epoch]

Remove the stun gun from the game. Light doesn't need it, and they never needed it. It's a stupid design to be able to simply remove options from other players with 0 counterplay, poses 0 risk to the light, allows the fastest class in the game to slow down everyone else EVEN MORE compared to them, and the cashout steals are complete bs. If you want to stop a cashout, kill them. Free cashout steal prevention is infuriating to fight against and unjustified to achieve

[static wolf]

plenty of times to pump out skins and dog shit events but cant seem to fix the memory leak thats been getting worse since season 2? Cant rework useless weapons and useless abilities and gadgets.

[meager glade]

Dude, what the heck is this? 💀

[kindred current]

I hope the mobile version comes soon, you can copy the graphics of Pubg mobile lite, they are good and also smooth 90fps, can run on low and mid end devices. The finals will look great on mobile

[lofty haven]

CPU usage is 100% fix plz

[crystal umbra]

I can't deal with the MMM Defib spam

[serene perch]

I like this, as it doesn't make it majorly worse but ups the skill a bit when fighting

[astral moth]

Is there a reason that the cash earned in Power Shift does not count towards the total cashout contract? Sometimes there is more than 3 of us playing for an evening and it is rubbish that we make no progress

[wide temple]

f ur world tour cheaters embark

[topaz barn]

Fan gains need to be buffed next season

[dark niche]

S4 has been a massive let down completely tbh, may as will bring back S3 (not TA tho) (im also joking about the s3 thing) but S2 was prime 100%

[celest egret]

I got that completed randomly. I also agree it seems and is probably very hard

[thick sorrel]

I would appreciate a rework to HOLD for Stun.
But how do you counter a RPG Pedicure followed by Charge & instant Spectator Mode?

[candid epoch]

CnS also needs a rework, I'm not disagreeing there, but the stun shouldn't have been in the game to begin with, let alone trying to rework it. It's anti-FPS, it goes against every basic idea of multiplayer shooter game design. Plus, lights die. It's the glass part of the glass cannon archetype

[feral elm]

Money extracted in power shift doesn't seem to contribute to the $$$ goal in the Iseult contract this week

[serene perch]

Charge and slam just really needs to do less burst damage. Maybe have a damage ramp up as you run, or just lessen the first impact damage down to like 60 with 40 follow ups to make it more of an long range quick melee/traversal/destruction tool rather then "I win now" button.

[wind meteor]

everything about collecting cash, whether an in-game contract or a steam achievement, is only progressed towards through cash out stations. Power shift is not a cash collection. The money is just an indicator of who is in the lead and by how much, just like the middle top bar.

@topaz barn Fan collection is fine, you just need to play 4 rounds everyday. I am almost done with more than 2 weeks left.

[thorny lynx]

Wow.
There has been A LOT of terrible circuit contracts.... but easily completed every single once since beta. The "eheadshot opponents from over 35m" is the WORST contract ever. It ONLY pushes sniper play (pike is not accurate enough anymore for the 35m). I dont want to play sniper, dont like sniping and think this is stupid. 10 headshots maybe, 15 is pushing it.... but 25 is just STUPID planning.
Oh and do something about the cheaters please? It has almost been a year

[smoky sluice]

Why can’t we pick another sponsor to get the skins? i have double the points i needed for iseult…

[tired fable]

remove Neomizo pls

[queen marsh]

EVERYTIME YALL UPDATE THE GAME IS CRASH IN RANKED

[lost talon]

nobody should be running shotguns you're breaking the game, engagements are always within that range and make everything else pointless, take the fucking shotguns away from medium and heavy

[serene perch]

L take lmao. Model needs to be toned down a bit, heavy is fine learn to play in your range

[abstract rain]

what about the light shotguns

[warm cape]

the ranked is not working properly? it says to me 18 minutes estimate ._.

[rough herald]

have you play kyoto before? 💀

@lost talon same thing with sniper? yes yes but now smg is the closest thing to shotgun with the same problem so removed that too, uh oh there's only ARs now very boring im leaving the game 💤

[rough shell]

matchmaking has been awful lately. I mad it to platinum 2 in world tour and havent gotten a single game without a brand new player as my random

[keen abyss]

This guy spitting facts people dont know how to change play styles based on there weapons and it shows

[ember tusk]

I have been in ranked que for 36min ... 🥲

[smoky sluice]

how would u change your playstyle adapting to shotguns? all you can do is either play shotgun too, or not engage in cashout fights because they’re mostly inside of buildings, where a shotgun has a big advantage.

[quick coyote]

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Discovery

still getting this havent been able to play since last patch anyone else ?

[bitter iris]

make it so in world tour and ranked you are forced to run a heavy medium light team comp you shouldn't be able to run 3 three of any class it's way to oppressive and causes to many problems also the problem with defib is that it instant revives its that you can have multiple instant revives the problem with mesh and dome in season one and two wasn't that mesh was in the game its that you can have multiple mesh and domes the problem with this games comes in the form of you being able to run multiple of one thing all it does is make the problem with these abilities worse because of how many there are just like in overwatch you can't balance six reins running at you with a 2000 hp shield but if you make it so that there is only two tanks and one rein it becomes so much easier to manage

[serene perch]

Destroy/demat the roof and shoot down. Destroy/demat walls to make long sightlines you can shoot. Throw nades to flush them out. Play with your team, using your mid range weapon to support a teammate with a close range one (heavy hammer/shotgun, medium shotgun/riot shield, light existing). Drop the cash out to bait them into jumping down, then take the high ground.

[lost talon]

the servers cannot handle destruction if 3 heavies start running into houses

[tired fable]

Maybe add/rework some structures/buildings to break open fields but I like Kyoto as any other map

[dense ocean]

day 67 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[thick sorrel]

The Finals Shotguns Leaked Patch Notes 5.0.0

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added
• ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... it still 2 shots Lights at 15m😂
  **Real Fix: 2-Shots Lights and 3-Shots Heavys, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Defibrillated Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not Alan enough.

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Flash & Hulk
  Dev Note: We thought it fits the instant sprint activation and the damage level of Hulk Smash - usually used after RPG for a free kill.

Dual Blades

• Decreased Blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

[carmine ginkgo]

hi nerf model, slightly buff fcar

[broken lynx]

We need balance changes to classes and more map varients

[lost talon]

servers are shitting themselves, they cannot handle mid destruction anymore either. The game itself keeps running worse with every update. I could turn up another setting before the alien update and get better performance than what I'm getting now

[serene perch]

This just sounds unfun, and you are going to run into role queue issues like overwatch did. How about we just fix the few broken things instead of smashing the whole system?

[dusky apex]

hope u like sniping grenades... I sure dont

[quick coyote]

💯

[green light]

Add emojis of The Finals in the Steam Shop

[tired ibex]

get a better anti cheat

[hollow jacinth]

UnusualWeb#1244 chearter

[signal basin]

Read my name. BUFF LIGHT !!

• **NERF THE MODEL DAMAGE. NERF IT **
• Add an indicator for the frag grenade !
• Nerf a bit damage Deagle at mid/long range . AND NERF THE MODEL
• Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower RPM and less bullets. Just useless now. STILL USELESS AFTER YOUR "BUFF"
• Rework mesh shield. AND NERF THE MODEL
• Nerf Charge'N'Slam. Too much damage.
• Give back the rpm on the V9S but let the damage.
• Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown by 1 sec or add charge. AND NERF THE MODEL
• If Hook do damage, Stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
• Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charge. Too strong.
• Nerf defib. To strong. It's litteraly the M meta.** AND NERF THE MODEL**
• Mates being revive with defib shouldn't tank bullets. Or should take damage !
• Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now !
• Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked even with you lose T1.
• Fix the recoil bug/pattern AND NERF THE MODEL
• Fix the spawn after a wipe, SHOULD NOT RESPAWN on CashOut and camping for your vault

More on the game :

• BAN CHEATERS AND TOXIC PLAYER. I'm done of getting insult just because I play Light. Report them do nothing. PERMA BAN ! NOT 7 DAYS
• Sound balance is terrible.
• Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked. AND NERF THE MODEL
• Ban cheaters. We need more feedback on our report IG and on Discord.
• Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers ! Or maybe it's lag compensation ?! I'm done getting kill at 3 meters far from a hammer or a sword
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the begining of a game
• Let us go in pratice with friends. **AND NERF THE MODEL **
• Delete low gravity event. Just the worst even in this game.
• Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
• Random skin and charm list for weapons / gadgets
• Add a TDM mode for warming up.** AND NERF THE MODEL**
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the leader
• Add the possibility to PM friends in the lobby AND NERF THE MODEL
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
• Let us leave a game without penality in ranked if we are only 2 or 1 in the squad !
• Some spawn are still at the opposite of the objective. AND NERF THE MODEL

** Everyone on this discord are crying for the Light nerf while in the same times they are also crying when they get a mate playing Light ! Stop being hypocrite ! **

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

[pseudo leaf]

Can we get something for getting "thank you for reporting". Like i am getting pissed because i have to see it every time i open the game.

[serene perch]

They should not buff the xp it's basically just a slightly weaker longer range m11, and m11 is kinda bonkers. Grapple could be better. Charge and slam Def needs a damage reduction. Stun gun shouldn't fucking exist, it's not fun to play against. Hook just moves you, stun gun just turns you off so you lose 80% of the time. Mesh shield is like actually trash and they really need to increase its hp and decrease its cool down on put down

[covert dock]

Baby did u forget to take ur meds?

[runic lark]

Quick question. I have been playing for loads of hours but cant seem to complete the challenges; 'interrupt opponents who are stealing your teams cashout or interfering with your teams decryption.' I jave completed all other challenges a while ago but I cant seem to complete this one. Am I doing something wrong? I kill people while they are stealing, I push them off with Charge and Slam but nothing seems to work. I think this challenge might be busted.

[rough herald]

pls pls pls take kyoto out of the quick cash and rank pool
every building is just too god damn open and the next room its way way too Closter phobic
not evening mentioning bamboo god damn bamboo, that shit ruin so many nade throw and my movement its insanely annoying
pls rework the whole thing

[misty wolf]

It worked for me.
I know it works with QC and WT
Not Powershift (idk about the rest)

[dusky apex]

ability to nickname loadouts?

[vapid drum]

Reworkd revolver Please, make it abilty to fanning quick draw but remove the ads, and make the left click hipfire and accurat

[lost talon]

light is fine cause it's handicapped and it moves too quickly to be healed. Shotguns fit the hit and run gameplay

[hoary cradle]

Hello everione 👋
Dear The Finals & Embark studios Team!
I hope You are doing well!

Firstly I would like to say thank You for this game, I really like it and plaing with enjoy!

First of all, I would like to thank You for this amazing game!
I really enjoy playing it and have a lot of fun!

However, I would highly recommend adding a ranking system.
Sometimes the matchmaking pairs You with teams that lack basic skills—like players who just run around the map aimlessly or stay inactive. This really ruins the experience, especially when You're playing solo without friends.

[karmic hedge]

when are we getting new discord or twitch event the skill issue one was so great

[delicate basin]

I've had it happen twice now where I try to slide and get pushed backwards somehow, not great when playing melee

[pseudo leaf]

I think that is really cool thing to do because getting a weapon to lv 7 or 8 (i don't know the last ones lvl) is just takes a long time to get it even you play insanely good. Plus xp skins are kinda boring

[winter verge]

This is not really Game Feedback but please let us use Stickers on this Server

[maiden shell]

I like this.

Also dear embark, please buff the KS-27 heavy shotgun from 100 damage to 110 so that I am rewarded for getting a shot and quick melee kill instead of all classes being left with 10 health

[lost talon]

Stop trying to micromanage the server capacity, keep it 10% above the point nobody gets yellow/red server strain icon. Literally cut cost ANYWHERE else and it would be better for game. Player count is significantly lower than what it was last month and servers have worse performance, this has only has one explaination. Solo queue experience and game optimization is more important than any """content""" that you can push out for the game or anything else. Once people won't be left with settings to turn down to maintain their performance, they will leave and new players are not coming anyway in that situation

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296847763056885851/1303779446536536124/togif.gif

[worn sigil]

As a Light main I agree with probably half of what you said..

• model does need a nerf to both Damage and Range
• NO INDICATOR needed for frag as that's a huge way lights can stealthily kill mediums and heavies around the cashout. Plus there's one of the loudest sounds when it's thrown to get the hell outta there! 🤣
• XP is fine, Mesh is fine, V9S is fine,
• Charge and Slam should do less physical damage and more destruction tbh
• Grapple is fine as is but would like a slight cooldown buff
• stun should not damage so hook should not damage
• dash sword swing sooo annoying
• Defib should not be nerfed anymore because you only come back with 30 health which in most cases is a straight death when teammates revive out in the open!

[errant cove]

Middle east Servers!!!!!!!

[round obsidian]

FANS ON DAILIES FFS the grind is so annoyingly tedious

[hollow trench]

Would be great if voice chat would come through the controller speaker on PS5😅

[queen shale]

can we fix flash bangs so they dont troll allies, fucking two mediums blinded me all game, they were on my team

[nocturne trench]

120 FPS and mouse on console 🗣️🗣️

[sudden tangle]

gj on killing ranked.

[tulip steppe]

Please increase the xp boost. This season has been one of the grindiest which isn’t bad but isn’t good either.

[lament sable]

Grenade indicator please im begging you

[violet patrol]

I really hate the sr-84 change as it makes long range engagements unviable, promoting more close fights but at that point its better to switch to smgs or shotguns. I find it especially infuriating as other long range weapons (pike 556, LH1) don't get the same treatment and thus fights with them become extremely lopsided. Pls revert.

[plush fjord]

lmao

[rapid stream]

2 fps kinda fun tbh

[sharp current]

I think you forgot about nerfing the model, not sure tho

[signal basin]

I had to add it a bit more because I think dev forgot to balance the game in the last patch

[red echo]

https://tenor.com/view/liverpool-liverpool-fc-lfc-trent-alexander-arnold-i-don't-mind-it-gif-1453217420606165385

[round obsidian]

still engimo pro 3 even with all challenges completed that give fans, i dont want to grind this trash season and lose my mind against cheaters and top rank no lives anymore, seriously revert the fans back to how it was before, 300 average gained a game is fucking ridiculous especially with only 20 days left to still need to get 50,000 fans to finish

[gritty owl]

when real sponsors

[quick coyote]

I just left a game because I had no 3rd teammate. The message after pressing "leave" explicitly stated that I will not be penalized. I just got a matchmaking suspension.

[nocturne trench]

120 FPS and mouse on console 🗣️🗣️

[lilac coral]

people cry so much for the Mouse on console if you want that go play on pc

[gloomy anchor]

Minor Bug:

Last few days iv occasionally experienced a bug where several of my weapons/gadgets get into a state where scrolling through using the mouse wheel ignores them. So for example if my loadout is M60, RPG, Gas Grenade, Barricade it might start just switching between M60 and Gas Grenade ignoring the RPG and Barricade

When this has happened the items can still be selected via pressing the number keys but the mouse wheel effect lasts until the game ends

Iv never had my primary be affected like that but not sure if thats just luck or if it only affects the gadgets

[silent citrus]

Add a FAVORITES to all customize items. They should move to the top with a star representing 'favorites'. For example, favorite expressions, charms or upper body clothing item.

[somber swallow]

In what reality is it fair that console have to deal with PC, who have a more free and dynamic movement system, while being limited by the restrictions of a controller, games that have cross play should either allow console users to use mnk to keep the playing field fair, or crossplay should only be a console pool.

(Not everyone can afford a pc.)

[surreal meadow]

not everyone has the money for a PC, let alone one that can run The Finals

[uneven dagger]

If console players want to be able to use mouse and keyboard they should be able to so long as it forces on their cross play, it’d be dumb if it’s already forced though which is what I’ve heard, in that case I don’t see the issue with mouse and keyboard on console

[errant cove]

Middle east servers!!!!!!!!!

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 88)

[bleak prism]

this game gives me ulcers

[wide void]

same, can we start a class action lawsuit?

[rough hinge]

Embark read the room you idiots

[lilac coral]

It’s not fair we play against pc so then there’s any fix for that just turn off cross play… and why is it fair that people play on mouse in console lobbies against controller players.. @uneven dagger I agree about forcing them to play cross play iam console player for life so ill always defend the controller people

[plush fjord]

the finals mobile port since when???

[surreal meadow]

they dont, they play against their own input type

[versed cloud]

Overhaul the entire report system. You guys are letting thousands of cheaters just casually fuck your game up. If you have an entire lobby report you after a game, it should flag said player. The game will continue to fail as long as people are just wall hacking with no recourse.

[short crater]

PLS CONSOLE NEED TO GET A 120FPS MODE PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. AND I PLAYED THIS GAME SINCE 10 WEEKS AND I GET EMERALD ENEMYS!

[void scarab]

seriously, this game makes less sense everyday..
i left a game where my friend's PC crashed and before he came back, he got kicked.
teammate left as well and i played alone for about 1,5 min..
then i left and i got banned because 'oh, you're giving your teammates a rough time when you leave'..
fuck off, seriously..

[vapid drum]

Embark, Revolver Rework Please

[fading pelican]

Man, I'm still struggling with the Interrupt Opponents (stealing cashout, interrupting decryption).
I've played for days now trying to do it on Quick Cash, WT, and even Ranked. This contract/challenge is just ridiculous. I've never been a light player, but even with the medium and heavy it is difficult. Trying with Light (invi + stun gun) makes me feel like I wanna kkms. I don't remember the last time I felt this way about a game. Plus the recent EXP needed to complete the battle pass seems to be more than usual. I don't think I'll make it in time (even if I calculate the bonus they usually give before the end).
This might be it for me. I'm thinking of quitting the game and maybe trying out GunZ (coming out) and maybe Stirnova for the fix. Still, I think I really enjoyed the first few seasons of The Finals! So many fun moments. I hope things improve for the rest of you guys. Sorry to those I had to leave in game by quitting (i've been frustrated with challenges/contracts and esp. I don't have enough time in the day to play). I know it's not an excuse but still, sorry. Thanks to those I've played with (esp. those who carried me when doing stupid contracts) ! It's been real! 😄

[sand hazel]

hey embark? when i block a player it means i dont want to see them in my lobbies. it especially means i dont want to be teamed up with them again so they can throw my games.

[shy fossil]

Things that should be given more thought

Games

There should be a mode of qualifiers, instead of having 2 (world tour and qualifiers) yes, the truth is very stupid to have 2 qualifiers, they divide the community a lot and lengthen the waiting times, it should be only world tour with qualifier rules, and maybe changing weekly as it was thought from the beginning.

The events should have the same probability of coming out, I have seen that it has been more low gravity that no one ends up liking it.

Add rankmatchmaking to the qualifiers and levelmatchmaking in quick games, this way you can avoid placing SBM that nobody likes.

Battle Pass

I'm not the only one complaining about the last 10 levels that you need to spend your life playing, my friends who work say the same thing and now you have negative reviews just because it's almost impossible to complete it in a healthy way without having to dedicate hours to the game.

Reduce the XP of the last 10 levels.

New system to gain experience

Quick games last 20 minutes, the same as qualifiers, per game each game lasts 20 minutes, power shift lasts 10 minutes, you know that just playing power shift and without knowing what I really do, I gain more experience playing quick games and that is very discouraging, my proposal is as follows

if the game lasts 10 minutes, you will earn 1000XP (power shift) and if the game lasts 20 minutes you will earn 2000XP (quick/qualifying game), if you win the game you will be awarded 500 additional XP.

Now, as I was saying, as I don't know how the game rewards you for playing, my idea is that combat points, objective points and support points should be added together and then truncate the last digit and give you an additional amount of experience.

for example, if your support p. was 1244, combat p.: 4555 and objective p.: 500, the total sum would be 6299, we truncate one digit and you would have 629 additional experience.

[proven crown]

What is wrong with the push to talk keybinding? It just doesn't work anymore for me

[uneven dagger]

I can spot everyone who doesnt have a good enough pc to run kyoto

[wide void]

I can run Kyoto. I just hate the map layout

[sharp current]

remove kyoto, this map kills my fps

[queen knoll]

is there any reason we can't get network statistics? I know they have the three icons that change color according to severity, but the fact that I cant tell what my ping is so I dont know if I'm missing shots, hitreg is off, or if I'm just on 80 ping is very frustrating

[trail terrace]

fix your servers embark, its very bad in Asia rn

[plush sand]

Server and ping issues making this game unplayable rn

[smoky sluice]

180fps average, the map is still shit, i prefer to see my enemies when fighting

[lost talon]

embark doesnt have good enough servers to handle kyoto in the first place, all the map design issues aside

[silent fog]

its not about running it, the map is just fucking garbage.

[sterile mist]

Embarks anti cheat broken, the amount of cheaters this season is ridiculous, the reports system in game is not working at all.
Even here on this discord I provided them a 2 clear footages of aim bot cheater and they just told me that “the security team on it” and they just closed my post and I never heard from them again

[charred folio]

PLEASE Lower the EXP and Fans needed and reduce the requirements for all contracts – they're RIDICULOUS.
Edit: It's going to take more than double XP for the Bonus Page stupidity

[tired bear]

agreed
either increase fan income or decrease fan requirements
or even double them for last week like xp

[uneven dagger]

the game is unplayable mf's when I log in and play

[glad ore]

STOP SHOWING FUCKING RANKS DURING RANKED TOURNAMENT. Holy shit, Embark, this isn't hard. Just delete the UI element!

[mild veldt]

Please! Begin the weeks with buffed EXP!

This time the last two pages of the battle pass are much more grindier than before!!

[rotund holly]

is it really that serious for you guys?

[red echo]

Nah , BUFF MODEL AND CNS

[granite vector]

i can run kyoto, the issue is the performance hit playing it compared to other maps is extremely high which is why people complain about it. i get 160 on fortune stadium and barely 100 on kyoto on the same settings. to even get above that i have to turn down or disable settings. it needs to be optimized better first of all + imo it's not very well laid out with the swamp in the middle of the gap between the low and high area

[austere ferry]

damm! they need to reduce the distance that someone can steal the cashout, a dude was stealing from like 4 meters far away!

[sharp current]

This map is absolute garbage on all topics, performance, gameplay balance, positioning, chaotic terrain making it horrible to move on it... Nothing is right in this map. No modification will fix the map. Only removing it and making another would be a solution

[river fern]

I never play any cashout modes by choice, and I've no idea what I'm doing for this event. Is this something you can do in quick cash? Not a fan of being funnelled into a different gamemode with a weird objective.

[echo urchin]

Skill issue

[obsidian timber]

Take melee out the game completely

[lost talon]

Take lights out of the game completely

[brittle obsidian]

they already did that

[gritty owl]

i play on pc, with controller. im doing ok, but i wish it would be pooled by input method (controller vs kbm) instead of platform, or atleast the option for that

[lilac coral]

I took a 2 week break cause your servers were fucked and the gameplay was just straight up trash. Today I decided to give it a go and after 5 hours I gotta say I had some of the smoothest game play and lobby’s since the season started I just I hope I can complete the battle pass… I just thought I would give some good feed back since I being shitting on you the whole season @gritty owl That would solve a lot of problems but maybe it would be hard to keep lobbies full…

@daring fossil aww this season for me was horrible.. the first 3 weeks of the new season was unplayable I think since the end of season 2 the game just doesn’t have the same feel

[daring fossil]

I played like 4-5 games yesterday and couldn't tolerate the shit netcode anymore. I'm glad you had a good session, mine are rarely like that anymore.

@lilac coral the whole gameplay experience has been consistently going down the shitter since season 1. 95% of my problems with the game are netcode related and I doubt these issues will ever be improved let alone fixed.

[celest egret]

I enjoy the game guys, it's fun still

[thorn kelp]

Some buffs I would like to see for Gadgets are

• Pyro Grenade (Increased radius)

• Pyro Mine (Increased radius)

• Data Reshaper (Fix Barrel rotation and allow the Dome Shield to be reshaped outside of the shield)

• Dome Shield (Increased health. No more than 50 at least)

• Glitch Grenade (Allow for cancelation of a Defib revive when the explosion hits their build-up hologram)

• Glitchtrap (Allow to work like a Glitch Grenade with the added AOE effect. Immediately aftee the triggered explosion, the trap dissappears)

• Thermal Vision (Team color'd vision please)

Continue working hard Embark

[pallid night]

FIX THE SOUND OMFG HOW MANY TIMES DID A TEAM STEAL A CASH WITHOUT IT MAKING A SOUND WTF

[safe bluff]

for the love of god either nerf the famas and shotgun or buff the ak and fcar

[sonic spoke]

Agree on the anti cheat lacking. Accompany your report in game with a #video-player-reports submission and you will see much more success with removing cheaters.

[surreal meadow]

its a race to the bottom. all nerfs no buffs is the death of a game

also obligatory: