👂┇game-feedback

[finite galleon]

0 nerfs since release btw

[oak kernel]

Can we get back reactions in this channel? I'd like the dopamine

[daring fossil]

agreed, but it looks worse when Embark ignores issues that everyone agrees on and they can't have that.

[digital yoke]

?

[misty jasper]

why are you confused

[plain compass]

Make getting a dupe of a higher rarity reward more like if I get a dupe legendary I don’t want 150 VRs as thats basically pocket lint

[lethal gazelle]

After a lot of play with the knife, I notice that there is skins on the weapon that are pay to lose. Some of the skins have a perfectly fine visual que of when your weapon is fully charged for a back stab, however some don't at all, and instead have the slight and subtle sound given, which does not work in combat. I think the solution, and this is somthing that should also be implemented into the sword too, is to have a ui change that gives us a meter that visually represents when the knife/sword is able to be used.

[simple quiver]

PvE mode would be fun. A casual way to level up the bp or earn vrc

[solar bone]

Plz fix the cheat that removes spread from shotguns. Getting blasted by a SA12 from long range doesn’t feel great😵‍💫

[terse glacier]

To the devs. The anti grenade turret is great as it counters the grenades, but I don’t think it should be able to shoot through walls/flooring.

[fast flare]

add a new #👂┇game-feedback channel but for only like red/green, or if possible a 'high-elo' feedback (dia+, mabye just that they hit dia, or previous season dia or something like that idk) so there is a consistent stream of feedback from higher-elo players that dont get drowned out. Its good to have a range of feedback (hence making it a separate channel), but it also could be a good idea to know where the feedback is coming from. It is also the case that most often the most dedicated players are the ones who are the highest rank / put the most hours in.

also if possible, make a PBE for the players to test updates in advance before they hit the live servers, for any possible last-minute feedback or bug fixes

[finite wind]

agree with all

[digital yoke]

?(x2)

[silent fog]

Go back to pre-S3 cash out rules and work from there.
People sat through 104 days of TA just to play the worst version of Cash Out.
The plug meta is horrible. Losing only 10% while gaining almost 3 times the cash for kills is just stupid.

[keen girder]

Man. This jack o’ lantern challenge sucks. Five days of world tour, hundreds of pumpkins thrown…one kill so far on someone not moving.

[stray cargo]

Yet another ranked game with a full stack of rubies thrown into a plat/gold lobby. Please, Embark. Stop it with the preferred queue times. Make high skill players wait for a game. It's not a big deal. Giving everyone else a horrible ranked experience just so the elite few can get games quicker just feels wrong.

[tropic swift]

The audio pollution in this game is horrible. I think it has gotten worse.

• Most sounds including the alerm when stealing the cashout is silent in a gun fight
• Even when your surroundings are quiet, footstep sounds tends to be silent
• There are instances where gun shot sounds are still being played even after the player has died
• Cloak should be more loud. Sounds are the most important indicator of the enemy's location while they are in cloak.
• Sometimes the gun shots don't even play. When the enemy shoots.

The fact that it silences cashout sounds is insane. I just lost a game because the game did not alert me with any sounds. The sound in this game is completely useless if it comes to information on your surroundings and it's frustrating. I would even say that Apex Legends has a better time with audio than this. Because there are explosions and gunshots, I think it's totally fair that footsteps are silent in those instances, but this is ALL THE TIME.

[wooden atlas]

One of the best feedbacks I’ve seen all month 🫡

[halcyon depot]

The reticle's centre is off in this game from the start.
I noticed this when I was trying to adjust the sensitivity to the left and right using throwing knives, which didn't have an aim mode and only had a centre dot.
You can't hit distant targets with secondary attacks unless you throw the reticle to the left edge of the centre dot, not in the exact centre of the centre dot.
I used to adjust the sensitivity by firing with a revolver without looking through the sights to see if I hit the target, but even then I found it better to shift it slightly to the right and shoot at the left edge of the centre dot to hit the target.

[glacial sierra]

yeah someone who's abit more skilled than the other players in a game is so oppressive if they choose light. totally sucks the joy out of the game.

light should be a glass cannon (things like mines, rocket and grenades should 1-shot them). as the most agile class, they shouldn't have the stun gun (super-agility gets agility-destroying gadget to increase their advantage even further...what?)

also the sniper should not be accurate, or fast to aim/fire, at short range. total nonsense that one of the most effective close-range and melee range weapons in the game is a fucking sniper rifle. lol

[tough kiln]

Why does charge and slam do so much damage??? Am I missing something? It feels terrible to play against. All they do is run in your general direction and they kill you. How is this a balanced ability for what's supposed to be a competitive shooter?

[brittle obsidian]

suggested stat changes in descending order of biggest nerf to biggest buff

nerf model damage severely
nerf pike rate of fire
nerf dual deagle maximum falloff
slightly nerf lewis gun rate of fire (still better than m60 in vast majority of cases, namely at range where its very oppressive with good recoil control)
very slightly nerf famas hipfire accuracy (its cqc power is slightly too good for a weapon like this, fcar is supposed to have the superior hipfire of the 3 rifles)

revert v9s "rework"
slightly buff fcar recoil and range (the recoil is obnoxious and the range difference between it and akm is negligible before falloff overtakes it)
buff ks23 arena damage and hipfire dispersion (the ability to break down walls is incredibly useful, but wasting half a mag to do so is pretty awful)
buff dual blade deflection accuracy and swing speed (deflection mechanic is completely undone by unreliability, and the weapon itself is mediocre)
buff 93r hip fire and mag size substantially (it'll still be bad, but at least it'll be more interesting as an accurate sustain fire tool that can be fired from the hip reliably)

[delicate notch]

the constant encounter of MMM with defibrillator and heal beam is beyond frustrating and has to stop

[clear hemlock]

Agree that light should be a glass cannon. The weapons should not do half the damage of the support class and barely have better mobility than the support class with 100 more health. Light also heavily relies on their specs way more than other classes, therefore the specs should be a lot better than they are currently.

[patent wind]

edits cus bro doesnt know what hes talking about

lewis does not need a nerf to match m60, m60 needs a buff to match lewis
famas doesnt need a nerf lmao

fcar does not need more range but could just remove that big jump in the recoil

[outer estuary]

It would be nice if you were able to emote in the lobby

[sonic arrow]

Can we go back to a time when VRs could be used to reroll challenges? it was the only way for players who own everything to burn their spare VRs.

[halcyon depot]

This is because Heavy's have low mobility and large hitboxes, so if they are in close combat with a Light, they will be unilaterally defeated if they are equipped with a Lewis or M60, even if they have 350 health.
If a Heavy's main is one of these, charge and slam will be their last resort for survival.

[quick coyote]

why theres so much stutter in the menu ? specially when reporting

[slender pine]

fuck the light sword... can we please do something about it

[proud loom]

a cool thing id like to see next season is like a skin randomizer. Everytime you respawn you get different skin that you equipped. I have so many good skins and I want to be able to use them all!

[waxen tusk]

hear me out, what if there was a feature to put hoods up or down on the upper body pieces that have them so you can wear more items together?

[uneven dagger]

Make it so the oni masks can be used with a hood it’ll look dope I swear

Also delete this channel a lot of people in here stink

[analog hearth]

nerf sword+dash

[cunning locust]

Please fix the matchmaking!!!!! ALWAYS in my team there are these players who just play solo never with the team always hunting kills... i play against fucking ruby and i fucking kill them every time, if i would just get fucking decent teammates who don't throw the game every round... Medium Healer with healing beam he has fucking 400 support end of the game?????? That is my team a light who just run solo the whole time and my healer doesn't fucking heal..

[nocturne badger]

whats the point of giving away VRs when you cant buy anything?

[potent glacier]

BUILDINGS JUST RANDOMLY FALLS, SPECIALLY IN NEW MAP. PLEASE FIX

[bitter iris]

can we please get better optimization for console or at least the option to lower the graphics on console i genuinely can't play on certain maps like kyoto

[quick coyote]

u can buy the items from that gacha event, just some

[woven hawk]

yeah I always felt the bow shoots too fast + straight

[uneven rampart]

Fuck you for putting this in

[bitter iris]

can we get a skin that gives you a Oni mask like Yoru from valorant that emits smoke and make it so Oni mask work with hoods also can Oscar get a pay raise he's a great guy and please improve console performance please

[rotund sparrow]

Can we get our points guaranteed for won rounds in world tour? My team made it to the final round but all disconnected and left the game. I was 1v3 and I decided to leave. Turns out I didn't get the points for the two previous rounds won.... 😒

[next raft]

Nerf the fkign Akimbos! they are basically DMRs!

[quick coyote]

they need more recoil, i swear, ppl really dont miss any shot with that

[proud skiff]

why why why why are you not allowed to choose your contestant in WT and ranked before the first round anymore now i gotta carry 2 lights as a heavy now and it aint their fault how did they mess this up smh

[clear summit]

Make it so we can use the practice range while in queue, if I'm gonna sit around for 5+ minutes waiting for a match I wanna at least keep my hands warm

[unborn garnet]

tfmr0002 error code
are y'all gonna fix the sever or what

[lean tree]

This game is not going in the good direction.
Firstly:

• Fix the spawns (rework them)
• Buff Mesh Shield (Remove the CD)
• Buff Dome shield (Put the timer that it lasts back to 11 seconds but keep the 750HP)
• NERF SWORD!!! Please do something about this
• Revert Model Range nerf AND NERF DMG Model
• Buff FCAR (Add DMG and take 5 bullets away)
• Give AKM just 36 bullets again (Let the AKM and the FCAR shine in their own way)
• Fix the matchmaking (Why i always get one teammate who doesn't know how to play the game)
• Remove sledge
• Remove stun
  Lastly on a side note:
  You guys removed cash out for S3 a whole season of 90+ days. Said you wanted to work at it but made it actually so much worse. The whole game is becoming so frustrating. In S2 my grind to Diamond 1, was great. I had so much fun playing this game. Since S3 the joy for the game is slowly leaving.. i catch myself becoming much more frustrated by the state of the game is in right now. This game had and still has so much potential

[nocturne badger]

Fix the matchmaking (Why i always get one teammate who doesn't know how to play the game) THIS IS KILLING RANKED GAMES PLEASE DO SOMETHING

[dawn valve]

Fix your fuckass ranking system. You lose the in 8th the same that you gain in 1st but statistically speaking you are much more likely to get 8th. Also I hate wasting two rounds of my time just to get 4th and STILL LOSE RP. Waste of my damn time

[hard magnet]

either the game is glitched or team colored outlines were disabled, cause I have the setting on but it doesn't want to display shit

[nocturne shale]

lmaoo

[runic bobcat]

game bugged, could see some enemies throughout the match as if they were constantly hit by scan grenade

[distant fox]

You can walk through walls with the goo too

[novel flare]

The Halloween event in The Finals is disappointing: The spin wheel feels like a deliberate attempt to mislead players, as it’s nearly impossible to collect all event items within the given time frame. Instead, players mostly get duplicates, ultimately spending more resources on the armor than if they had simply bought it directly from the shop. This creates a frustrating experience, making the event feel more like a cash grab than a fair challenge.

[sage blade]

I feel like they could’ve done better with the Halloween event too cause you are kinda forced to play world tour to get the new halloween contracts so it’s definitely not friendly to casual players

[lilac coral]

Being here since the beginning. This games performance has dropped so hard then there’s all the balancing issues bugs lack of updates and decent content am tired of it all and I couldn’t make it through s3 BP got bored around day 60 game was dead stale and boring for me.. season 4 came you had my interest I bought the battle lets go and I got bored again only this time I level up 4x am level 64 and am only 67 on BP embark I won’t be returning on season 5 if I do it will be a quick visit… sorry guys thanks for 456 hours of fun GGS Good luck ( just thought to my self embark will probably never even see this so who cares hahaha )

[clear summit]

We love being forced to play gamemodes we don't want to for events and contracts

[opal ocean]

I'm glad you've said it my friend

I'm pretty sad, the day has come. I've been devoted to this game since season one. You only need to look at my rank in this server to see how passionate I am about yapping about the finals alongside playing it

Even through balancing and performance, I stuck with it. It's all I've played for months.

Not anymore. I can't play the game right now. The performance is so poor, it's unplayable. Every lobby is Pike or model players. The meta has been essentially the same since the start except a few tweaks here and there (medium defib reigns supreme)

And as Irish says in the comment I'm replying to - the content is so so stale. There's literally nothing to do in the game. I was talking to my friend the other day about this - i just don't know why I'm playing this game anymore.

And it's confirmed in my mind now unfortunately, i can't play it. It's no longer fun and it feels like Embark have really stopped listening/caring.

[sonic arrow]

Why can you not open doors when stun gunned

[edgy urchin]

game balancing blows, not worth playing

[hearty marten]

I've said this before but I swear there's always at least one or two suggestions in these lists that are always ridiculously extreme.

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[wooden atlas]

Embark, please leave melee weapons alone. I know many people complain about them but most sensible players recognize that they are hardly overpowered. The Finals is advertised to allow you to play your style. Please never make melee unplayable 🙏

[dreamy gull]

Nerf dash/sword.

[rotund sparrow]

I agree. It doesn't the teams a chance to adjust

[hardy gorge]

What most people complain for is Nerf everything transform the finals to cod or counter strike 😁 adapt the game to my gameplay.

[pastel cypress]

Can we get a slight cl40 buff by making the grenade smaller I feel a lot of the times I try to shoot through or pass a gap I just hit the gap even through theres enough room for it to go through and i dont know if its intentional or not but the cl does full self damage sometimes more like the the rpg

[rough storm]

One hitted by a model after winning a wild team fight for the millionth time causing us to lose the match... why the hell do i even bother anymore?
Yo embark, rename the game to 'The Models'! Fits it better

[pseudo relic]

Does anyone know how to grind for fans?

[eternal pagoda]

I didn't think that was possible

[lilac coral]

This was the best response I ever saw from a dev it may have being joke end of the day it is a game/ company that.we invest time and money into.. and to have a dev turn around say “Ahh made up problems I see” is just kick n the D”””K
(can’t even find the embark guy in the discord any more 😂)

[tawny oriole]

Play light taser and dash to skip the shots, or heavy you have many shields to counter it. Your model issue isnt unavoidable bro.

[simple sphinx]

If people dodge a game because it's kyoto, don't refill the team, I don't wanna get filled into there either

[floral mortar]

This game is so fun

[undone pier]

yes, yes it is

[nocturne shale]

Would be great if embark made it so that every team can have only one of each gun, gadget, and specialization per person on that specific team it would fix a ton of issues with competitive game modes. Been recommending this for awhile.

[quick coyote]

no one wants to be forced off of their favorite guns and loadouts just because someone else is using it. it's somewhat the same problem a game like valorant has where you can get locked out of playing a way you enjoy because someone picked your favorite character.

[round granite]

i really want to know the rationale behind matchmaking ., i have been solo queuing in ranked and all i have been seeing is stacks on stacks , 90% of engagements lost because it's always 1v2 or 1v3 , coordination and comms are crucial in this game. if im solo queuing im expecting to see solos , if im in team of 2 , then i expect to see teams of 2s , same for full stacks . but this is so frustrating i swear , devs need to learn this from Bungie D2.

[hardy gorge]

Agree , your teammate can use the same ability only after the first use cooldown. For example if i use defib my teammate can use it again only after my cooldown. I suggested it already in season 2 but the devs didnt agree with that

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[reef rampart]

I have no idea how viable this is game design-wise, but there should be a better system for players who leave midgame/bugs that cause players to have <3 players on their team. As someone who only has a duo to play with, it's very frustrating having a third teammate who leaves mid-game or getting put into a game without a third person. At least I think the remaining 2 players shouldn't get a penalty for leaving a ranked game as going into every fight in a 2v3 is an objective disadvantage and it means I lose progress for a reason I can't control. (This is specifically for ranked/ maybe WT as other modes it isn't meant to be as competitive)

[rough storm]

Bro it literaaalllyyyy is. As a heavy you use all your gadgets to build a setup. I had nothing left for crying out loud, i even used my winch claw and he stillllll killed my 2 randoms at ease, i soloed his team and winch clawed him just for him to one shot me cuz he engaged. What am i supposed to do? Teleport away? Its rediculous and i'm on the brink of uninstalling. I was @ 14 kills 7 deaths and it was 7 times the model user in a final.
It's ALWAYS only models that kill me. Nothing else except sometimes a light sword. Come on just stop. You're not supposed to keep your whole inventory just for the chance a model user might drop by. And it happens every game cuz the majority of the players use the rediculous no-skill weapon. And don't get me started on it cuz when i use it myself i rek all players i come across cuz it's so faceroll. Let your team go in, Hit - Hide & repeat. Just screw this man i'm on the brink of uninstalling as it's all about Models and i'm completely done with it. Never say it's unavoidable again cuz it is. You can't do whatever you want there's always a Model player swooping in to ruin all nice high-skilled plays and 1-hit everything. So cringe it's just crazy Devs think it's okay at this rate.

[terse plinth]

interrupt opponents who are stealing your cashout

This crap doesn't work properly. This challenge doesn't take into account interruptions caused by mines, destruction of the floor under the cashout, knockbacks, etc. For some reason, only kills are being counted.

[rustic tusk]

Hey I really like the wheel, but give us something more to use the VR bucks for like more spins or like other stuff

[nocturne shale]

So your telling me you enjoy going against 3 people using an insanely cringe meta like triple pike with defib and your all smiles about it?? Valorant is a completely different game its a hero shooter the finals is not that at all. In valorant all your teamates can buy the same guns and armor lmao. I'm saying you can go triple light or any other class but you cant spam 2-3 of the same weapon its ranked not casual and unless they do drastic changes to some of the ability's and guns the competitive side of this game will never get off the ground.

[sharp bolt]

DOES EMBARK ACTUALLY USE ANY OF THIS CHANNELS FEEDBACK? thanks

[clear quest]

Defib, grenades, dome shield, jump pad, zipline, taser, mines etc. should all have a team wide cool down to prevent low skill spam use and promote stacks to bring different utility instead of copy pasted load outs

[deep spear]

Ranked/WT scoring needs revisions. It’s possible to dominate the first two vaults/cashouts only to lose the game via a large late game steal: FRUSTRATING. A team should still be able to comeback late if lucky, but it shouldn’t happen as regularly as now. There should be value for holding the objective for long periods even if you don’t deposit or hold at the end of timer.

Secondarily, can ranked RS gains and losses also be influenced by individual performance? It’s frustrating when my team is horrible or disconnects entirely. If I had incentive to play my best regardless of teammates, solo queue would be so much more palatable.

[icy marsh]

Sword is perfect thank u embark ❤️

[hearty marten]

I hope to dear god they don't because the amount of slop here is atrocious

[jagged cedar]

this is a really good idea

[gilded prism]

the matchmaking needs more work, i should not be put against people in top 200 ranked twice in a row when im just trying to play quick cash while i never touched ranked

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. And also please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[stuck ridge]

I agree. This actually sound good. @deep spear

[lament surge]

nerf the model. nerf the sword. revet mesh shield.

[rough storm]

Here i even got you some proof, just did a quick WT Model match (first one of the day ask Embark for some proof) It's literally ridiculous, without a reason of doubt.
Just let your team engage, jump pad in behind em and 1-hit em 1 by 1 before they can even see you coming. 0,00 seconds TTK and 0,00 skill involved cuz it's UNAVOIDABLE.
Also: guess what weapon the other mediums were playing 👁️ 👄 👁️

[dull quarry]

nerf model fix performance

[marble tartan]

I've never gave feedback on this game so this is kinda weird but just wanted to see what people thought of this idea

One of the biggest problems I've seen in this game completely destroying it's dreams of being anything competitive is the third partying.

While third partying itself isn't bad overall, its horrendous in the way it's being abused in higher ranked games.
In higher ranked matches it becomes apparent the playstyle higher ranks tend to adapt which is essentially grief every single cashout possible.
You'll have the first team to initiate a cashout, leave the cashout, then grief the second cashout, or you'll have a random solo from the winning team grief the two teams fighting after they're done.
Now again I don't think third partying in general is a very bad thing, it can be strategic to help win the game, but the issue arises that there's no penalty for the top teams playing how they do. It's very common to win a fair 3v3, start stealing, then lose just cause the other team decided to leave their cashout with no one there and grief.

Now I think a very simple mechanic that can help with this is add a radius to the cashout, not a small one, but a big one surrounding the cashout's.
Something like the first two cashout's have a radius to set fair fights between teams and the last one can have no radius so it can it can still have that chaotic feel the game wants.
It would still allow third party stealing to happen but at a higher risk because you essentially miss out on having a fair 3v3 with the other cashout to try to third party and win.
One last mechanic to the radius would be the amount of people that have to be in it, I would say it should be dependant on how many teammates are alive, if everyone is alive then everyone should be at the cashout, if not, it doesn't go up.

[sturdy hawk]

IM SO TIRED OF GETTING INTO RANKED GAMES JUST TO HAVE TEAMMATES IMMEDIETLY LEAVE BRO START ACTUALLY PUNISHING ACCOUNTS THAT DO IT OFTEN OR IF ONE TEAMMATE LEAVES THE OTHER 2 SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED IF THEY LEAVE AND WERENT PARTIED WITH THEM.

[pine garden]

Just throwing this idea out there, dunno how hard it'd be to even implement but it sounds cool. Allow players to purchase any still frame or common iconic still frames, from any of the Finals Trailers using max amount of VR an then be able to set those as Backgrounds to the playercards. OR for borders that are just 3 stripes of colors, allow us to purchase the hexcode of the color we want for each bar. Also, same idea with the hexcode selector but for hair would be cool. <.<

[rustic birch]

for the love of everything PLEASE add some sort of penalization for people who leave powershift games because they cant handle losing a match

[wooden atlas]

Time for me to join the Anti-Pike League... It wouldn't have been so bad except that I was using (trying to use, rather) LH1, which Pike completely nullifies. Doesn't help that LH1's recoil is still rather hard to control while Pike's is far better... So please, Embark, do something about Pike. I'm not even sure what to suggest; all I can say is that this is less fun to fight than the sledge+winch meta ever was.

[fervent coral]

Yeah yall need to rework light melee builds

[gusty violet]

Wheel keeps giving same item. I got skull riot shield 5 times in a row. bruh. they should make it so atleast it cant just keep giving the same item

[twilit sand]

Let us turn off TAA.

[vague shadow]

Dagger is so fun

[lilac sentinel]

Does anyone know what I do if I did my dailys and my tickets weren't rewarded?

[stone hazel]

i hate that there are no non-night variants of the halloween maps
i want to actually see people and things in the game instead of having heavy fog and a constantly dark map
also model is still busted that was not a real nerf

[lyric frost]

In my personal opinion they should let us rename our contestant defaults so we can label them like "tank" or "bombardier" to remember what they do without needing to check. Also just more contestant slots.

[gritty umbra]

to say shit isint overtuned or imbalanced is bad faith at best

[half briar]

Everyone, I just had a groundbreaking idea for how to make this game better. You won't believe it. Imagine this. Even a tiny bit of SBMM in quick play. I know it's crazy right‽

[quick coyote]

Increase aim assist on hipfire on Xbox

[wild sinew]

can i post my take on cod vs the finals here? i would love to share it and see what others think

[floral vault]

I can't complain too much bc you brought back cashout ranked, but the model is stupid busted and triple medium meta is so tedious. also not sure if it's intended, but as a heavy melee main, variations like suspended structures and moving platforms are really hindering, to the point that I have to switch to weapons I can't play as well, just to deal with the mode, especially as heavy doesn't have a great long range option

[woeful bolt]

medium has always been op, pike and the demat change just made medium even more meta. The model has always been op, it hasn't been a problem until now because the other classes were also op in their own sense. examples being s1 stun gun, heavy s1 - s2, and etc. When you give the class with the best mobility that already had an op shotgun, an even better gun for long range you make a meta based off 3ms. Also with the cashout 30% plug change it just increased the medium meta further. Back then a heavy was super well with defending but now the meta is about stealing plugs and moving across the map as fast as you can, which you simply cant do with 2 heavys now or even one. The fact the heavy mesh shield was also nerfed even though it was the only thing keeping it alive in competitve was even more braindead. In conclusion medium was already an op class, but with the new plug meta and other class nerfs it just made medium into a dominant powerhouse.

[fervent coral]

Make it to where if u dash into bullets u take extra damage….then melee can stay

[coral crest]

I was just in a game where there was 1 cashout running in overtime and we were in control of it, our team died and the other teams were still fighting over it as the death timer went out and we spawned. The cashout was in the corner of the map, we spawned on the opposite corner of the map. making it impossible to make it to the cashout in time to stop a team from stealing it and winning the game. Pissed me off so much that the ending of the game we could not make any sort of change to because we spawned as far away as humanly possible and couldnt make it to the cashout within the time limit. Would really appreciate if spawn locations were looked at more closely for any upcoming updates so something like that doesn't happen again. Thanks for listening to my Ted Talk.
I also played against a hacker today 😦

[jagged vector]

Nerf the sword with dash!!!

[covert dagger]

Sword dash is waaay too strong. I shouldnt be able to sweep lobbies like this. My hit radius is so big I dont even have to have someone on my screen to hit them

[drifting pawn]

smh. embarrassing matchmaking

[bitter iris]

lol

[hearty copper]

Such a fun game but unplayable due to relentless crashes and lag-outs every other match

[peak tusk]

Hey gang

[vale acorn]

Enable the ability to change classes/specializations in quick cash

[acoustic wadi]

I second this

[quick coyote]

pike and throwing knives need to be nerfed, pikes should not have the lh1 sized threat, and throwing knives are the second strongest weapons in a lights arsenal.

[wraith orchid]

THOUGHTS:

i would love to see improvement in movement basics to allow for higher skill/faster play. i ve red often times that the movement was better in the beta and since i played bo6 recently i think omni movement and different slide/jump mechanics should be the new standard in the future bc it makes the game way more fun.i am also no fan of the goo mechanics being removed, or the grappling hook sonar sensor mechanic. in deep mechanics are whats making a game more versatile and fun overall. (g. e. the flip reset in rocket league)

And i think this game NEEDS a skin grinding system with prestige to give players a never ending grind. THIS WOULD BE PERFECT.
dont get me wrong. i think this game is 1000x better than any cod. but they invented the formula for EXTREME fun movement basics and LONGLASTING grind.

with these two improvement for THE FINALS i think the game could be the best ever existing in the fps genre.

[viscid terrace]

pretty please nerf or remove gas and fire they are such a pain for a single person to throw a gas nade and ruin your chances of touching point for 20 seconds

[mystic tartan]

smoke can get rid of fire, fire can get rid of gas and goo

[shrewd echo]

Y0, can we get a capture the flag mode in the game?

[hearty copper]

Game being open lags my entire computer. Doesn't happen with other games such as COD

[vestal basin]

Trash team pairing system, trash spawns, son of china (Game cheating n.1 country)

[real fractal]

Fix the fuckin servers, nerf model already and get the turret out of the god damn game

[mystic tartan]

they did nerf model and while i havent played to much since it was nerfed it seems fine now no longer sniping

[acoustic wadi]

We need a capture the flag mode for sure

[peak tusk]

Hey gnag

[obsidian ginkgo]

game takes care of you so that you can grow ur skill (not)

[thick sorrel]

I got 7 for you!

Random Dice Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 5.0.0

Pike

• Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM
  Dev Note: We suspect it may still be too effective, so we'll adjust in Season 5 maybe.

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... deal with it.

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Dual Blades

• Decreased blades from 2 to 1

MGL32

• Reworked: Grenades need to bounces 3 times before detonation

Defibrillator

• Increase Charges from 1 to 2 1/2

Healbeam

• Dogwalking plays the Theme from Ghostbusters

[delicate basin]

That last one is actually fire

[hearty marten]

2… and a half?

[mossy rose]

This is why a game like this can never take off, A rock paper scissor format means there's a big % of players that are dealing with unfair situations. It's just a mess, I wish they can just sell their destruction tech to other companies for them to use

[lilac kite]

jesus christ

[viscid terrace]

the MMM thing I see is trip turrets make it a pain to take a cash box back with it just deleting a heavy in 2 seconds

[wide void]

fix the double-throwing nade glitch. fix the spawns. fix the floors looking like they're destroyed but you can still actually walk over the thin air where they used to be. let us turn off TAA. fix the infinitely playing gunfire sounds. nerf Model. nerf Debif. buff CL-40. let us buy tickets for The Wheel with VRs so it's not as RNG whether or not you're forced to spend real $ to finish the damn hunt. and stop stuffing so much FOMO behind grinding ONE gamemode (World Tour) over and over to the point where the game is annoying and stale. lmk if you're hiring 'cause you need it.

[steep imp]

Suggestion: If a player being resurrected has less than 50% ammo, respawn them with 50% ammo. Respawning with a single bullet after being resurrected isn't a great player experience.

Suggestion: Bank It cashouts spawn too close to each-other. Spread them apart more.

[tawny oriole]

many don't want to play ranked because it's not worth it you earn 400 points from platin 1 and above if you win but you lose 1400 if you get eliminated. And that the result , lack of players in ranked. Should be losing less points but to reach ruby you need to reach dia 1 first .

[lost talon]

give xp for spotting

[halcyon vault]

Can we fix the brokenly shit riot shield? Seriously what are you supposed to do against it?

[strong lake]

Just need a sight for the 93r

[solemn sedge]

Make it so that the emerald rewards are visible at the start of the season, like ranked rewards. So that way people will know whether or not the grind is worth it to them.

[muted jungle]

Just wish I could see my loadouts in load screens so I can actually adjust in the game loading :P

[latent pecan]

why am I getting vrs on your stupid wheel when I am maxed on vrs with nothing left to spend vrs on in my inventory or the wheel? with half the damn wheel left to get.

[mental hatch]

Nerf model. It absolutely dead brain to keep weapon with 128 damage per hit while light being in that game. Look at high ranks 128+melee still meta. 2 shot medium kringe too.

[glacial sierra]

the hit reg gods are sleeping today

[quick coyote]

Bro wtf is this shit 12 death 4 kills I was playing res sim that whole match and the only reason I would die is while resing. I won 800 the match before for getting second PLACE AND LOST 900 BECAUSE I GOT PAIRED WITH IDIOTS WHO CANT STAND BY MY SIDE I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BLOCK THEM AND NEVER BE PAIRED WITH THEM EVER AGAIN,

THIS AND THE WHEEL ARE THE TYPE OF STUFF THA MAKES ME WANNA GIVE UP ON THIS GAME also force that light to play nothing but cas till they learn how to play the game😮‍💨

[ripe herald]

Please give Dagger a bipod

[versed hazel]

delete kyoto

[bitter iris]

GIVE CONSOLE BETTER OPTIMIZATION

[tribal spoke]

Dual blades buff 📿 🙏

[copper elk]

nerf sword

[nimble torrent]

I love this game. Only request Deathmatch and Domination ABC. Maybe in rotation every 2 hours. Awesome game!

[lofty junco]

I have a suggestion about adding an overflow xp tracker to the game. I've maxed out some specializations and it would be cool to keep track of how far past that I've used them

[delicate dirge]

people mad about the wheel whould take a good look at the garbage that is valorant charing 10$ for a colored weapon. Or overwatch's events where you have to pay to even do event tracks at all.
Like this is actually one of the best ways a f2p game can do events like this. chances at everything free 22 more chances than there are items even. like holy shit people are so dumb to complain about this-

[delicate basin]

Add a soup skin for light so I can eat the soup with my BIG spoon

[wide void]

it's stupid because it's RNG. If they want us to pay for items, fine. I have already paid for items before. I don't like maybe having to pay for some items to get the actual items that I want (the hunt completion bonus). simple as that

[muted jungle]

Gonna follow up and second the guy who said 93R needs a sight. That would be hype. Even if it jitters like crazy with the barrel. Hilarious.

[glacial sierra]

dogshit audio glitches

[humble plank]

For the love of god embark, we need SBMM. Every match I am paired up with new players who don’t know how to play. I’m glad there are new players, but I’ve been playing since season 1. I don’t want to play with people during their first match ever.

[slender oasis]

Mesh shield should count as a physical barricade when deployed to stop movement and physical throwables. Also maybe a movement speed buff of like, 5%.
It would deter pushing and make it so people focuses on shooting it cause it'd be annoying. Plus would make funny plays to cut people off.

[late herald]

Be amazing if I could find bank it matches without crossplay.

[versed hazel]

add egg throwing knife skin and delete kyoto

[mental hatch]

Disable AA on pc it will nerf all fkin xim users!!!

[hearty copper]

Likewise, my first match and current matches are filled with people that have thousands of kills and are level 200 (I've played like 10 matches)

[little vault]

quitting & leaving a match of ranked during ANY round should automatically deal full loss points if it doesn't already

[mortal notch]

Add a hs multiplier to model

[grim wigeon]

Please allow me to try on multiple outfits at the same time. I want to try combining various fashion styles that I like.

[pine ferry]

Hello, good game 👍

[unreal fossil]

Server performance has been constantly worsening since the end of S3.

I'm usually running the game at 100-120 fps, yet I've been getting:

• drops to 30-50 fps when destruction occurs
• more and more server-side latency; even my actions feel delayed sometimes
• visual stutters, even freezes
• physics going nuts for no reason; especially destruction related

New annoying bugs have appeared this week: weapon sound glitches/delays, enemy team colors not displaying as intended...

These are top priority fixes ruining the experience, regardless of other ongoing issues. If it cannot be done in a timely manner, please at least communicate with us on the matter...

[lost talon]

assists should've always been counted as a stat, alongside the support score in the career tab.

[sacred frost]

whenever i try to link steam it says "The account you are trying to connect has content saved from an Embark game and cannot be merged at this time. Contact player support for more information."

[lament surge]

nerf the model. nerf the sword. revert mesh shield.

[fallen vapor]

Please just region lock China already, I can't fucking play with all the hackers on Asian servers

[unreal zodiac]

fix the spear hit registration please imma cry

[versed hazel]

please do not add all chat because i will get banned fr

[bitter iris]

kyoto sucks

[analog hearth]

nerf sword+dash

[crisp bolt]

just gonna say this...i love this game i do but the overflow of lights and the double triple stacking of invis and dash has ruined the experince of this game and the devs fail to recognize this fact...u want to balance the light class but its not possible while invis and dash are in the game...u have nerfed all the fun weapons to hell and back but expect people to buy skins for them....but the main reason is the lights this game needs a roll lock system so bad its scary i made it to diamond but will never see that beautiful skin cause i cant even wind down in casuals cause every fucking lobby is nothing but goddamn lights..was fun embark but if this keeps up ur game will die just thin k about it from a new player experince constantly getting stunned sniped shot in the back its not a fun e
xperince at all ur game will die if u let this continue

[mortal notch]

Average wood 29 player’s complaints

[dense ocean]

day 50 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[feral adder]

yapp, light’s the absolute worst class rn

[red echo]

Icl I'm an all time light hater but that beats me

[past idol]

Console - only cross-play
Remove winch
Move Kyoto from rotation until Xbox-s version works

[gaunt dock]

Would be really nice if u could Show the number of other players found for a match when im waiting in queque. If u turn crossplay off i cant find any ranked matches so that would Keeper people in queque before enabling crossplay, nobody on ps5 wants to get into lobbys with PC players in ranked

[strange nebula]

is there a way to tie a game, i just finished a match of ranked but when we forced a timeout (aka running out a game timer) we were in first. after it ran out however it said the enemy team was the winners. i still received the 1000 rank points but im still confused if it tied or if it was a visual bug. everything showed that we won except the winner screen

[mossy rose]

Playing since S1. Honestly, Nexon should just end the project. A year + and still it just doesn't feel fun, every week guns, sway, recoil, damage is changing, sooo much cheesy shit takes me back to nukes on cannister meta

[drifting thistle]

Define balance in this embark. 130 charge hit 90 damage slam
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1gjgo1w/what_heavy_dreams_are_made_of/

[visual turret]

to this day still getting GPU crashes on kyoto, i m on the lowest setting i could possibly be, will there be an option to not queue me into that particular map?
the changes done to model 1886 have no influence on a triple M stack, be it light or heavy, their all have low survivability against that when medium can close the gap with jump pad and zipline, will there be furthur balance changes?

[faint saddle]

Its objectively a nerf since the windup is now longer, in a immediate fight its worse overall better things you CAN do, thoe the windup is too long and needs a buff asap

(i am in 40k elo ranked and its no longer playable and i need to play model since everyone else does too)

[placid obsidian]

I'm gonna try this again. Day one of asking for console users to have native keyboard and mouse support on crossplay matchmaking. Insurgency: Sandstorm uses a nice system where if you do not have cross-platform enabled, you cannot use m&k. I would really appreciate this system be implemented into The Finals.

[upbeat kelp]

PREACH

[vapid drum]

NERF SWORD NOW, or season 5 (I will die a lot in season 4 if the sword nerf start season 5) 🙂

[radiant moat]

there's only a couple lights among all 8 teams on average in my ranked games (40k rs), not sure what you're on about

[fleet timber]

mm how I love spawn points in this game
in final round we win fight for cash
going to cashout and enemies spawn just in it and kill us and we spawn 200m away from the point
also 3medium is too strong other classes to weak vs them

[quick stag]

I would love if weapons were changed more often. The games never balanced, so why bother limiting weapon changes to half season marks to maintain balance when there is none.

Just give us more crazy new wacky changes more often

[lost talon]

Get rid of the triple medium meta. If any meta should exist it's heavy, medium, light. Otherwise what's the point of the other classes if its always gonna be mmm all the time

[fallen vapor]

Do you have NVIDIA DLSS enabled by any chance? They cause player "ghosting" which sounds a lot like your issue
@lucid gyro Sounds like an intentional game design imo, I get whatchu mean but I think they remade recon senses and sonar nades due to the fact that it was OP

[keen lily]

the prompt says estimate queue time for a ranked game is 4 minutes, while in fact I am already waiting over 20 minutes, yet another functionality of the game not working

[coarse jetty]

dashing + melee should not be possible, you should not be able to use any part of your weapon while dashing

[queen ermine]

This game is a solo queues worst nightmare, went from 39.9kRS to 35k 💀 I think the ‘easy’ definitions above 35kRS are far too skewed IMO

[quick coyote]

i lost 10k in the past week going from 33k to 24k only playing solo queue

[verbal sinew]

Yeah it's not worth to play as solo competively in this game sadly. There is too much RNG to mess you up, even if you would be above average skill level and would 'caryy' most of the teamfights.

If the game would have a solo queue, then it could work but not like this when you put against full comm trios

[feral adder]

Then get better or don’t solo queue, what’s embark supposed to do? @umbral swift Hell nah why would you want every time limited item to not be time limited anymore so every noob can have every single item, that’s just boring… isn’t it cool if you have an item that you can’t get anymore cus it proves you played back then, there’s enough items that you can’t just buy. @smoky sluice Ye

[umbral swift]

Please make Battle Passes permanently unlockable in the store how Halo Infinite/Helldivers 2/etc do, and please give some other way for people to obtain other vaulted cosmetics like event ones or rerun the event or so on.

[smoky sluice]

would be easy to just reskin stuff, for example they could’ve made an alien in purple or something instead of re releasing the green one, that way everyone can enjoy those skins while the people who had it before still have it

[teal bear]

We got to this annoying ass meta through nerfs. Gotta stop nerfing. Need to make stuff stronger so people don't feel like they are throwing for choosing a weapon they like

[upper citrus]

Hell no. This meta sucks but it’s 10x better than the early metas of the game. Long ttk is an intentional design tool used in team based fps shooters to incentivize teamplay and punish solo pushes. The old ttk of meta weapons like fcar and sa1216 did not fit this game at all and made it feel like a deathmatch rather than a real game.

That being said, not many more weapons need to be nerfed. The only ones that immediately come to mind are pike and model. Deagles could use a range nerf and a spread/hipfire buff though.

[queen ermine]

I’m a solo queue console light carrying my team majority of the time 🤷‍♂️ but yes the seeding is awful, ranked is not in a good place rn

[limpid rampart]

AGAHHHHH
STOP NERFING MEDIUM WEAPONS
THEY ARE NOT THE ISSUE
DEFIB CHAINS ARE THE ONLY THING ENABLING MMM IN THIS META

EMBARK, NERF DEFIB AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[lean tree]

Deagles dont need a nerf buddy

[echo panther]

give the 93R a sight

[graceful lion]

this, game is almost unplayable including hitreg/desync issues. can confirm the enemy colours not working. destruction performance way worse than ever. also game refuses to even constantly run at base cpu clock for me

[quick coyote]

well, i lose 1000 for placing 7/8 and get the same by winning a tournament. that's pretty stupid. also i'm not the problem. i fail 1 out of 10 matches but the other 9 is rng or my teammates

[dusty plume]

There will always be 1 class that is easier to pick up and play and mmm will most likely always be a viable option. Buffing either L or H any more to where they get picked any more will have the other 2 classes in a mental breakdown on how OP the changes are.
Also imo and through my own observations in ranked gold, plat and low diamond level plenty of teams are mml, lmh, mmh and mhh.

[quick coyote]

I really could care less about what you say here about the 3 defibs and 3 pikes, yeah it's kinda cringe but again what your balance changes imply is going to affect all weapons. For example if I simply just want to play with the AKM and my other teammates decides to choose it then all of a sudden im not allowed too, not fair and not fun, you are just better off addressing individual weapons directly and not preventing players their freedom of choice.

[rough herald]

100,000 kills on a weapon to unlock this yes?

[upper citrus]

Defib has never been the issue with triple medium (since season 2). MMM leans into its class strengths (team sustain and support) just like any triple class stack does. The issue is that weapons like the model and pike are so strong that they cover up mediums weakness in close range entirely. Leading to teams of mediums fully built for support that are out-damaging heavies that are fully built for close range combat.

The issue with the support/utility class being the strongest and most reliable dps comp in the game with triple stacked is not the support.

We also have proof of this from patch 2.6 - 3.0 when people thought the AKM was the best weapon on medium and it was the go to weapon for mediums in comp, MMM was considered weak during this time even though medium in a regular team comp was still strong. MMM had high team sustain and support but the lack of immediate close range burst damage meant you could counterplay by closing the gap and punishing bad revives.

[civic orchid]

funny game wait 20 min for found a rank game, gg embark

[uncut burrow]

It's noon, go eat lunch

[limpid rampart]

@upper citrus
fair

personally I'd prefer to see an end to defib chaining rather than a nerf to medium weapons because it makes the game feel worse to play.

All for a damage nerf, but think its a route that will cause outcry from the casual playerbase

[lost talon]

U don't realy have to buff light or heavy it's more of nerf mediums damage and buff mediums heal beam

[thick sorrel]

Random Dice Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 5.0.0

Pike

• Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM
  Dev Note: We suspect it may still be too effective, so we'll adjust in Season 5 maybe.

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... deal with it.

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Dual Blades

• Decreased blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

MGL32

• Reworked: Grenades need to bounces 3 times before detonation
  Dev Note: It's so bad, I can't even make fun of it. Anyone?

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Revived Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not annoying enough.

Healbeam

• Dogwalking plays the Theme from Ghostbusters
  Dev Note: What is Dead May Never Die

[dusty plume]

While I understand your message I dont think medium needs a nerf to its overall damage output. Its effectiveness lies in the class’ versatility instead of raw shooting power I think.
Light is made for short glass-cannon like 1v1 engagements where its survival depends on breaking line of sight and repositioning. On the other hand Heavy isnt made to win 1v1’s because (to me) the class seems to be oriented towards a supportive role by providing shielding for teammates and spraying multiple enemies in a group with its lmg options

M once again falls in-between these options and will 90% of the time be a valid option when not playing underpowered weapons

[craggy basin]

I lave landed on all 20 items in the halloween event but I only have 17 of them cause of a g;itch

[mossy rose]

On the last day PLEASE PLEASE give us the ability to buy all the halloween stuff with VR pls

[rapid rover]

I just want another round of fully automatics for every class
M4A4 med
P90 light
MG42 heavy thank
you please consider this EMBARK❤️

also if we can get system where there’s some sort of separation of ranks for the world tour mode so that way we play with people around our ranks

[dark niche]

Kyoto is the most dog shit map ive ever played, im on xbox supposed to get 60 fps and what do i get prob about 5

[primal hornet]

so... this game gave me an "error TFGE0000". Wipe me out of the competitive match and penalized me because i left the game... OK

[steel imp]

i’d like for vrs to have a more prominent role in the game, because we rarely get the opportunity to buy things with them and even when we do, we get to the vrs limit a few days later and they stay that way for the duration of the season, having small cosmetic items that are purchasable with vrs would go a long way imo, for example, weapon charms, stickers, different reticles in optics, possibly different and unique skin colours (green, orange, blue, white etc etc) recolours of default hairstyles, perhaps different badges for our player cards, a few ideas, DMG dealt, DMG taken, distance traveled, grenades thrown, money deposited, longest kill, anything to make each player card that much more unique to its contestant. All of this would also allows each contestant to be much more special without the need to spend money that they may not want to or have access to.

[livid spruce]

I don't mind the LTMs being replaced by WT tournaments for as long as you are a bit more creative and wacky in terms of changes.
What about limited loadouts or classes? What about everyone playing dual blades only? What about constant mid-match events? NPC turrets scattered around the map?

[signal basin]

No thanks kid

[tender sail]

Can you stop spawning me close to the cashout with 8s left, and 200m away from the one with 30s left please? Thanks.

[smoky gust]

i think the dual blades need some work

the deflect feels really inconsistent and pretty weak imo
i think it would be decent if it had very good (if not perfect) accuracy, but in return the user took more damage for reflecting shots
it would set it apart from riot shield a bit more, as it would be even less defensive, but with stronger offensive potential

i would also give it a circular crosshair instead of a dot, so we can gauge better at what range the reflect will even be effective in

and lastly, please change the final attack of the blades to deal the damage of 2 blades
i couldn't tell you how often i missed a kill because the final attack that im building up to deals less damage then the first 2 slashes

[rough storm]

That's just cuz they changed the main objective plug and win.
The stealing meta is what it became after that update and itd be less so if they made it so you gain 1/3d cash every 1/3d of the time that passes on the cashout. It would change the whole dynamic i reckon. Wouldn't be bad to test it out on WT for example

[verbal breach]

Here is a list of changes that might make the dual blades viable:

-Damage Combo to 110, 120, 80
| Allows for kill combos with a quick melee

-Deflected Bullets can crit (uses crit mod from the deflected weapon)
| raises skill ceiling

-blocks 33% of explosion damage
| we need something against grenade launchers, ok

Please Embark 🙏

[rapid stream]

No, just remove 1 blade.

[thick sorrel]

There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

[woeful arch]

We could have had a "Haunted Castle" new game mode instead of the Duplicates Wheel Game.

[fringe burrow]

Im surprised embark hasnt tried a class locked LMH teams only mode, those games are the most fun with lots of variety even quick cash half the time is now just all M on the other teams and its so stale when those games happen.

[quick coyote]

Remove Kyoto in it's entirety, the map gets on my nerves like no other, I DC every single time I see Kyoto pop up on my screen.

Also fix the class balancing. Lights are too easy to play and are super effective, low risk high reward, meanwhile heavies are way too much effort for way too little gain.

[autumn sedge]

"Low risk, high reward" play some more, get past noob levels of play, and then look at lights again.

Ranked has been known for a long, long time to be the weakest class. At gold levels theyre already extremly rare and by platinum practically non-existent.

[terse lark]

ngl the game feels pretty well balanced rn (disregarding outliers) but there are still a few changes that need to be made:

• revolver -> please just give it a little range buff

• mesh shield -> just decrease the cooldown just a little bit so it's not so frustrating to use

• duel blades -> literally anything, these have been garbage since they dropped

• cloak -> is dogshit rn. needs some sort of rework or buff bc vanish orb is just better

• glitch nade -> let it explode on impact, let it glitch the defib statue

• lh1 -> just so it isn't completely dogged on my pike give it some of its range back

• 93r -> definitely needs another buff but a red dot for it would be nice too

[brittle obsidian]

i think medium being able to 2 tap medium and 3 tap heavy is much more problematic but what do i know

[quasi dagger]

I have 0 lag, and 1 crash every 30h play

[queen ermine]

40k down to 34k rs let’s goooo solo queue warriors 😍

[rough storm]

This is way too accurate

@queen ermine i got brought back to 30k bro so no worries, back to bronze gang 💀

[pastel swift]

hello

[rough herald]

oop didn't mean to reply mb

it happen again
i didn't clip it cus it crash my computer along with my recording app so i'll use an old clip but basically the same thin

[ashen venture]

I’m trying to play ranked solo q and I can’t even get a game rn been in q for almost 30 min now lol

[unreal fossil]

It seems you haven't played Light.

Also it's funny that you mention Heavies being hard to play for too little gain. I played 3H with friends for shit and giggles yesterday. We effortlessly won almost every single casual game we joined. Not necessarily with a crazy good KDR like a 3L team. But when it comes to stealing and holding objectives, it's always easier with 3x350 hp, 210 rounds of ammo, 2-3 RPGs, mesh shields, barricades, motion detectors, CnS, and so on.

[queen ermine]

I feel you dude, I’m putting the game down until next season, light and solo queue are just both in a nasty place right now so I’m out 🫡

[solar bone]

Nerf pike and model again meta is double model and pike. Triple medium… or just leave them the strongest weapons for the rest of the season and keep the meta shitty😆

[dusky knoll]

GIVE US MERMAID COSMETICS OR A MERMAID BATTLE PASS SECTION🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[upper citrus]

Tbh casual players will just complain about nerfs no matter what it is (unless it’s to light)

I wish the game was released in a more balanced state so they didn’t have op weapons that they look back on with nostalgia because it was their first time playing

[brittle obsidian]

give flamethrower a right click function. now that its synergy with mesh is gutted it needs some extra utility to be a worthy primary option.

[cosmic narwhal]

day 4 of asking for a ready up button

[quick coyote]

Stabilize the FCAR's recoil

[silent fog]

Revert Cash Out back to pre-S3 rules. This plug meta with only 10% wipe while getting 2.5x cash for kills is horrible. Also revert buildings folding like wet cardboard when you look at it wrong, makes the map feel bad to play on.

[humble phoenix]

Air blast?

[soft valley]

what about throwing that thing away ?

[brave dagger]

The hot topic of the game has always been what function should light fulfil.
I think by focussing on its glass cannon potential all that happens is it being a nuisance in casual game modes with lower skill levels. But seeing how the game main mode isnt about kills at all we see light fall off in higher ranked play.

To be honest the solution in my mind is to shift lights attention away from its weapons and raw killing power. But we should think about what support they give to teams in relation to the game. What roles do we wish to have lights fulfill? Sure right now they are excellent at plugging the vault. And in the right hands can effectively kill opponenents. But I would say to make the tradeoff of 150 worthwhile you need to increase the support they give to their team. And by support I dont mean healing, medium can have that role. But things to disrupt enemy teams, incur information, that counter strong gadgets on the enemy team. Gateway is a good example of a gadget that is strong enough and unique enough that it gives lights an advantage in ranked play.

Give light very strong gadgets / specialisations that work with its team. Its not an immediate fix since making new gadgets take time. But we can take a look at its current gadgets and think of ways to add more teamvalue.

• Glitch grenades could probably last longer on players, and allot longer on placeables.
• Stun gun could be changed to be a shorter duration but pierce mesh/dome shields. This allows easier cashout defence, and by shortening the duration makes it less of a crutch solo kill tool. This in part would allow for buffs to mesh and dome again, since it now having a meaningful counter
• Smokes could deploy instantly when thrown, and effects like sonar / tracking dart / motion sensor could reveal people in smoke.
• Vanish bomb could give a bonus to duration or shortened cooldown if it vanishes more people

Its time for the support light to emerge

[mortal notch]

light-p90/scorpion evo/vss (a scorpion evo would fit the role of xp-54 as a longer range smg.a vss is just cool) med-ppsh-41/tommy gun (we already have 2 full auto ars add a larger smg to med) heavy-bren gun/BAR (both slow firing larger cal machine guns/large assault rifiles would change the dynamic from just lewis and m60)

[dusky apex]

add priority queue to people disconnected from server??

[neat lantern]

8th seed should not fucking lose 500 points in ranked for losing. the idea of being the lowest ranked team when there is no form of match ratings. we were team score of 91k facing 120-150k ruby teams. and we lose rs for what fucking reason?>

[vapid drum]

Nerf light Sword

[quick coyote]

Robbed of another win by your game's extreme instability. Thank you Embark for a smooth experience.

[modern tulip]

Nerf light sword
Do something in asian ranked server which too many cheaters. Many Players are leaving here

[graceful pike]

That's actually so funny lmfao

[dusky apex]

make the healbeam recharge slower? thanks

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 71)

[unreal fossil]

Never seen this before. The game literally shat all over your team on this one.

[hexed grove]

Lmao, shit went negative. I’ve never had that issue tho, must’ve been an interruption in the server’s connection. I’m sure the on-screen countdown is client-sided and not server related. So it just kept going because the server hadn’t caught up yet.

[modern tulip]

Split the Chinese server, so we can play peacefully in asian without cheaters

[livid spruce]

Hi embark devs. Cosmetic presets would be nice instead of having to spend our limited loadout slots.

Also bring complete battlepasses to be bought after seasons end, k thanks, kiss kiss. 💚

[silent fog]

Please go back to Pre-S3 Cash Out rules and work from there. This plug meta with only 10% wipe penalty while getting 2.5x cash for kills is just bad.
The buildings fold like wet cardboard now which makes a lot of the maps play awful. It's also really bad for performance.
I don't even have words for how bad spawns are.
We've somehow gone so far backwards. 104 days of TA just to play this worse version of Cash Out.
Cheaters are also running rampant all the way to ruby without getting banned.

[limpid rampart]

idk man new cashout isn't so bad, can you tell me what exactly is the issue?

[ripe herald]

Make light better at recon and stealth

Make heavy better at demolition and being a front liner

Make medium gadgets and specs that allow them to do things that light and heavy are designed for better than light or heavy less overbearing. Also nerf defibs and buff and differentiate the 2 ARs

[short cairn]

So when is this cheater problem getting adressed? Was just in a plat/ruby lobby with 2 cheater teams. 2 unranked boosting a ruby player

[red echo]

id love to get season 1 bp cosmetics , but this is a big no no

[bold moth]

The idea of this event is amazing
but EVERYTHING should've been buyable for VRs, not just a few random items
or, alternatively, have it so that during the last few days the wheel will spin until it hits an unclaimed item

[daring fossil]

I have 5 items left as well and 2 days in a row I got 3 duplicates

[graceful lion]

nerf the fucking sword already

[waxen grove]

Agree. Or the tickets should have been buyable even for 1k or 2k vrs

[modern tulip]

Please you guys need to do something in ranked ASIAN server now! I've been complaining this problem since season 2, and here's why :

• there's a group of Chinese players that they called it Chinese anchor is Livestreaming in douyin app (chinese TikTok) EVERYDAY and they proud to be a CHEATER.
• the cheaters got paid everyday for boosting someone to be a top 500
• they got BANNED many times but they keep MAKING A NEW ACCOUNT just for doing it again and again and again.

Im doing this because I'm addicted as a competitive player. I hope someone can understand how much I suffer playing everyday with these CHEATERS. I won't stop until you guys need to do something because it's for your own good. Banning them won't be the effective way, here's the solution from me :

• Device ban. at least they can't create a new account from the same device
• Split the server between asian and China. I mean this sounds like Im a racist person but I'm not, I respect them. It's fact that mostly CHEATERS are coming from china. That's all, once again I hope you guys can hear me.

Long live the finals.

[glad ginkgo]

That’s highway robbery without a gun. Makes me grind my gears that player excessively call for nerfs but not bug/glitch fixes.

[queen rapids]

Wtf lol

[keen lily]

can't wait for another useless update tomorrow with no meaningful bugfixes and no balance changes, including lots of new cosmetics to buy

[tender sail]

Guys, your meta is boring as fuck. All skilled players being nerfed out cause of the loud shit players that can't use anything other than a shotgun.

Reduce charge & slam player damage by at LEAST 50%, if not removing it entirely.

All the highest ranked players are just playing shotgun and it's boring as fuck

[fervent phoenix]

Low Gravity is the dumbest event ever please remove

[jagged cradle]

I agree dude, new cash out is better as it is incentivizng objective based play... Before, it was highly encouraging to third party.

Higher ranked plays were just one third party after another while one team just sat there on a cash box like a hen on an egg.

It was very annoying because, some of us aren't playing long hours every day, additionally solo queue... It was such a pain to level up to higher emerald when it was dependant on game wins + random teams + third party frustration.

My only wish list for the mode now is to improve the spawn, sometimes it's too far away... And sometimes it's way too close 😂

[unborn garnet]

I love loading up the patch notes to see something cool added or changed... Nope, just a bunch of bug fixes that I dont experience. The only one I experience is the stupid sprint bug. But gotta have the 3 new cosmetics to add every week. Smh

They gotta do a mid season update to keep things interesting. A weekly WT game modifer isn't going to keep players active. This past 2 weeks were terrible. I dont care about a halloween modifier. Primetime Buff and Double XP were fine. Add a new gadget, a map, weapon or spec. Something to keep things changing. Next WT is going to be "Opening week" so its going to be nothing. How about reveal the emerald skins. I didnt grind Emerald last season, I'd like to know what they are soon before I grinded for guns I dont use. I better not see a melee emerald skin, I think sword would be sick but regardless.\

[limpid rampart]

spawns will NEVER be perfect in this game. But from what ive seen you still always get 2-3 pushes on a cashout. (Depending on when you wipe)

I think when people complain about "spawning too far", its because they've lost their cashout pushes and are now being spawned for vaults.

[gaunt dock]

Fix the ranked Mode why tf am i being matched against 41k pc players when im 25k console...

[unreal fossil]

Plugging vaults grants too much cash vs. no team wipe penalties (WT) or 10% penalties (Ranked), in addition to the respawn logic being f'ed up, giving the advantage to wiped teams, or favoring 3rd party.

As a consequence teams focus more on plugging vaults, are able to take every risk since team wipes almost don't matter, and can sometimes even win rounds all thanks to favorable respawns.

[ivory dagger]

please fix the gunsounds... when enemies are close the sound of the gun which is enemy shooting just disappears.. and sometimes the sound of gunfire just stays forever.

[modern tulip]

AGREED, I think this is a new bug

[solar berry]

Are we getting the fucking 120fps on console or not?

[unborn iris]

not even gun sound, sometimes footsteps also disappear.

[thick iron]

Two issue I have found lately since getting back into this game.

1. Quick play Terminal Attack - Why is there no team back fill when a player drops? This is not ranked gameplay. Super annoying when starting a match and the match gets cancelled for a lack of players. Also annoying when a player drops halfway through the match.

2. There seems to be a sound glitch with guns in the game. Happens at random. Either during team spectate after death or on the beginning of a new round, someone on the team sounds like they are shooting indefinitely. The only way to stop this currently is the affected player needs to cycle there gadgets and back to their weapon.

I know its not always easy to squash the bugs but something to consider on the next patch/update

Cheers

[jagged cradle]

True, it's not gonna be perfect... Lately, compared to previous seasons spawns seem either too far or too close 50% of the time. It's gotten better in some sense but it's gotten worse too.

For example on Seoul map, if you're fighting on the hospital past the bridge, you'll highly likely spawn on far end corner of the building past the sky bridge, you'll always spawn here... Even with multiple wipes. I've come across players who have figured this out and who come out on the roof to spawn kill the respawning team.

[sand marten]

Could we have an option for all seasons of soundtracks to be played instead of just the current season, please 🥺

[thorny lynx]

{shakes head} game is in such a sad sad state it is almost unbelievable that it would get this bad....?? Like whaaaaaa

[silent fog]

There's less strategy and risk. People just run away with the vault for the plug money which is kinda low risk for higher reward.
People doubling vaults so they get money to overtake first without any risk and getting that team out if they can't get that cash out. Spawns being the worst they've ever been isn't helping with this. (Spawns were never perfect unfortunately.)
Get wiped after you left 2 team mates and ran with the vault to plug for 3k? Don't worry, lose 300 which isn't even 1 kill to get back.
Getting wiped only costs you 10% which you can easily get back with 500 cash per kill. It used to be 30% and only 200 cash per kill.
Let's say on the 10k vault you get the full 10k, maybe you had a fight and 1k for opening the vault, you'd have around 13k. You get wiped and lose 10% that's 1.3k, not even 3 kills. So barely any risk to fighting because if you get wiped no problem. You'd probably make profit off of reckless fighting.
Even the 22k vault you get 7k for plugging, which if you die would only cost you 700. Obviously you have money from previous fights/vaults but I hope you get my point.
So unless you have (close to) 70k when getting wiped, you're still making decent profit for simply plugging a vault. (stun gun and winch being a thing also sucks for this, you can just wait on a cash out, stun/grab them and then grab their cash box and voila, free money.)
Before you'd lose 3.9k and only get 200 per kill, meaning you'd need 20 kills to get wipe money back.
Very high risk to get wiped.
This might be too harsh, which is why I said go back there and work from there. Maybe keep 30% but also 500 per kill?
You still lose 3.9k but need 8 kills to get that money back instead of only 3 which increases the risk of getting wiped.
Or 20% wipe penalty but lower cash per kill back to 200-300? It's hard to say what it should be exactly which again is why I say work from there. But this plugging meta bs ain't it. They shouldve expiremented more in S3. 104 day season btw

[fading pelican]

agree. generally, the VRs should be usable to fill contracts and/or buy cosmetics so that players have all the reasonn to play all the time. Even palette swap of some cosmetics would be good tbh.
I feel miserable playing the game recently with cheaters, etc... the VRs could've made me feel better a bit if some contracts can be filled with x amount of VRs and/or cosmetics (even palette swaps) were purchasable with VRs...

[vague cape]

FIX THE RED PLAYER BUG ALREADY BRO ‼️‼️‼️‼️

[quick coyote]

I miss season 1 cash out way funner (don't care if it's a word or not) less 3rd parties more fun and way more thrilling because the the wipe was actually punishing

[tough kiln]

Voice chat doesn't work consistently. This is the only game I have issues with voice chat. I have tried everything I can think of. Seems to just be something on the game's end. I have reported and no fix.

[thick sorrel]

Random Dice Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 5.0.0

Pike

• Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM
  Dev Note: We suspect it may still be too effective, so we'll adjust in Season 5 maybe.

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... deal with it.

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Dual Blades

• Decreased blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

MGL32

• Reworked: Grenades need to bounces 3 times before detonation
  Dev Note: It's so bad, I can't even make fun of it. Anyone?

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Revived Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not annoying enough.

Healbeam

• Dogwalking plays the Theme from Ghostbusters
  Dev Note: What is Dead May Never Die

[carmine ginkgo]

nerf light sword

[gaunt dock]

On console only there is no lobbys i tried on weekend 30+ minutes waiting no lobbys but why am i bringt matches against full teams of 41k+ people when i have 25k?

[warm compass]

please embark : as controller player i suffer from zen controller players they are cheating and you do nothing . can you fix your issue

[silent fog]

Please go back to Pre-S3 Cash Out rules and work from there or start adjusting it. This plug meta with only 10% wipe penalty while getting 2.5x cash for kills is just bad.
The buildings fold like wet cardboard now which makes a lot of the maps play awful. It's also really bad for performance.
Spawns are probably the worst they've ever been.
We've somehow gone so far backwards. 104 days of TA just to play this worse version of Cash Out.
Cheaters are also running rampant all the way to ruby without getting banned.

[karmic cipher]

I am once again asking for you to fix me seeing red outlines and the cant shoot bug

[rotund sparrow]

I just left a tournament because it all started with only 2 members in my team ... Said I would not be penalized and I still got penalized ... 😒

[forest wasp]

This has happened to me as well.

[keen lily]

if the devs rely so much on the data, they should compare what kind of feedback they were receiving here in the previous seasons, and what is being written here now. this is the worst season yet when looking at the game balancing/game modes/bugfixes, especially that so many new bugs have appeared while old ones are still not resolved yet

[plush grotto]

Plug meta is aboslute dog

[rough hinge]

Im glad other people are memeing this incredibly out of touch dev studio

[silk moon]

I dont get why the heavy's dual wield has such a long and accurate range

[burnt notch]

I’ve encountered this sound bug too, and other times when spectating players the gunshots aren’t indefinite, but the fire rate sounds slowed down and sometimes the gunshots just aren’t heard at all

[dusty plume]

what do you think of this?

[potent forge]

need improvement 10%

[latent charm]

I like the idea 👌🏻

[fringe schooner]

Split the matchmaking between console and pc. turning crossplay off splits the consoles apart now. Wild CQC advantage and super easier for a cheaters our ppl who can't hang with their mm to create a smurf on pc

[hardy gorge]

Support on embark website are bots. It doesnt matter what you write the answer is Literally always the same 🤦‍♂️. It's logical, they can't answer 1000s of requests. Which makes me realize that it is also impossible for them to read the suggestions , just let us let our emotions out here

[limpid rampart]

@silent fog

There's less strategy and risk. People just run away with the vault for the plug money which is kinda low risk for higher reward.

It's for sure a lower risk, but there is usually a fight that goes down over that vault. If the 3v3 isn't finished quickly and the vault hasn't been plugged, another team has the chance to come for that vault. You're SUPPOSED to "run away with the vault for the plug money". But the reward is not very high, especially in the first round of vaults. Plug money is there to help pad your already existing cashout money. Plugging is not a valid strategy unless your team can get the majority of plugs, which is a valid strategy and takes skill. If you and other players in the match are losing vault fights, you deserve to be knocked out.

People doubling vaults so they get money to overtake first without any risk and getting that team out if they can't get that cash out.

I promise you, normal players are not consistently winning double cashouts, especially in higher elo lobbies. This (Source: currently ruby #329.) If they are, then the team winning the double are probably just solid, or lucky and every team in the lobby refused to target the holding team. If they get the cashout, the team winning the double deserves the ability to play their leaderboard position. That is just how the game works.

Get wiped after you left 2 team mates and ran with the vault to plug for 3k? Don't worry, lose 300 which isn't even 1 kill to get back.
Getting wiped only costs you 10% which you can easily get back with 500 cash per kill. It used to be 30% and only 200 cash per kill.

You're talking about the first round of plugs here? Cool, you lost 3k. On average, your enemies get 2-3 pushes onto a cashout. That is the potential to kill 6-9 ($3,000 - $4,500) people. You'll get that money back AND wipe the plugging team if your team is solid. What you should focus on is how you lost the plug and how you can play better.

Let's say on the 10k vault you get the full 10k, maybe you had a fight and 1k for opening the vault, you'd have around 13k. You get wiped and lose 10% that's 1.3k, not even 3 kills. So barely any risk to fighting because if you get wiped no problem. You'd probably make profit off of reckless fighting.

Yeah, you can make a profit after wiping. You're still in trouble if you cannot get a cashout because the other teams will be ahead of you. If you are engaging in "reckless fighting" and not playing for cash, you will lose.

Even the 22k vault you get 7k for plugging, which if you die would only cost you 700. Obviously you have money from previous fights/vaults but I hope you get my point.

If you have more money at that point, you will not lose 700 then? The point here you're trying to make is that you lose nothing for wiping...but in reality you do? This point is invalid, sorry. If I misunderstand something please let me know.

So unless you have (close to) 70k when getting wiped, you're still making decent profit for simply plugging a vault. (stun gun and winch being a thing also sucks for this, you can just wait on a cash out, stun/grab them and then grab their cash box and voila, free money.)

The money is not free, and the strategy you are describing is not that simple. Stunning or winching a player carrying a box puts you into a vulnerable position, especially as a heavy player that does not have escape options. You can probably hear the team pushing you. Drop the box and fight for it. Bonus points if the box carrier has his team escorting him. There is risk to this type of play.

I'm running out of characters here, but your last point, ("This might be too harsh" and forward), I actually don't have a problem with anything in that statement except " But this plugging meta bs ain't it."

I think 30% of the plugged cash is fine, but am open to 20%-25%.

[rapid stream]

Thats all fcar needed from the start yeah

[tawdry tree]

We really need a dual blades buff, this weapon is so fun, but it's so bad at the same time, it's so frustrating

[carmine ginkgo]

Por favor não tragam de volta os passes de batalha

[pastel swift]

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[quick coyote]

Type shii

[quick coyote]

Robbed of another win by your game's extreme instability. Thank you Embark for a smooth experience.

[hexed terrace]

M M M....

[upper citrus]

This is probably the worst take I’ve ever read. This would immediately destroy the game if implemented

[echo urchin]

Finally! I’ve been saying this is exactly what the game needs! This would literally save the game!

[fast flare]

you say robbed of a win but there is a pretty big chance you just dont win there regardless lmao, you had like 6 seconds to start capping or you just lose on time before you spawned in, and not close enough to win on kills

@pliant glade play WT or RT lol

[cerulean musk]

Why the fuck every time you win the first fight and bring the cashbox to the point, the team you just wiped always respawns in front or near to the point ? What’s with these shitty spawns ?? It’s been a month and still impossible to fix?? Even more frustrating if it’s a team with 3 mediums, damn...

[mortal river]

Definitely not always, but it happens way too often

[tough kiln]

Anyone else hate the actual final round? Because of how the rock paper scissors balancing works it always feels like one team is at a large disadvantage based on who they end up matched against. The ability to third party is gone so it just ends up being mostly unfair for one team. It feels bad no matter what side we are on. If we place third I usually prefer it bc I love the 4 team matches but I actually dread the final match. And it's literally what the game is named after.

@queen rapids Oh what a surprise, a troll coming in to say I'm not good at the game knowing nothing about my actual ability or rank. I'm offering feedback by expressing how I feel about an important aspect of the game.

It doesn't hurt but it does piss me off coming from a streamer. I'm a casual player that also plays other games and has a job with other hobbies. I rank gold which is fine enough for me. Not everyone is a streamer who spends half their life playing shooters. It doesn't feel good for someone in gold rank who is decent at the game. I'm offering feedback from my perspective and would just prefer to not have useless comments like yours.

The entire game is balanced around rock paper scissors builds. When you can't swap out your loadout in the final round and the other team has loadouts that directly counter yours that is not a 100% skill issue. That's my point. Yes I can get better but that doesn't mean the final round couldn't better take into consideration how the game is balanced and make it feel better to play. That's all I'm saying.

[queen rapids]

Means youre not that good at the game.

Sorry that it hurts man but if you aren't good at individual play and 3v3s then you're not good at the game. Anyone can third party.

It's just the truth man. Theres nothing wrong with being bad at a game so stop being offended. The bottom line is the game shouldnt change because someone isnt good at the game.

The Finals already has tons of user friendly low skilled loadouts and with the massive third partying you can easily make it to the finals but if you aren't winning in the finals then its a skill issue. 3v3 is the most fair you can get. You vs them, one box.

[autumn sedge]

Wiping a team SHOULD NOT MEAN THEY SPAWN CLOSER TO THE CAHSOUT THEN IT TAKES YOU TO PUT THE VAULT IN

[covert nest]

The sword drives me absolutely fucking insane

[raw gulch]

Add a molatov cocktail skin for pyro grenade

[keen lily]

garbage game the ranked experience is the worst

[dusty plume]

stick to world tour, ranked mode in a game with 2 to 4 objectives (vaults+cashouts) in a map with 4 different teams is impossible to pull off

[sharp estuary]

A possible rework of the dual blades: The third attack of the combo should be the first attack and it should be faster and a dash attack, that way players could reach the enemies easier, the damage of the first attack would be increased from 70 to X1 100, X2 60; X2 50, the dual blades should be able to deflect when running but I'm not sure if the latter would be balanced

[flint goblet]

There is a major bug that's prevalent in every game where players in the enemy team have the wrong character colour outlines, especially the purple team. It's really messing with the gameplay

[teal bear]

This meta is 10x more boring not better. A few guns needed tweaking on release. Most others needed to be brought up to match. Idk whatever ttk bs you are on about

[iron bough]

Another event locked behind WT, what are developers smoking...

[rustic tusk]

The match making in this game sucks

[terse glacier]

Apparently it can also block melee as I found out.

[viscid terrace]

Nerfs

fire - make it do less damage and reduce area of effect

gas - reduce damage alot so that you cant just rotate a gas nade to make a objective un-touchable and if damage is lessened enough no area of effect change

model - make it not a sniper please and nerf damage some maybe

turrets - limit one turret at a time per team PLEASE I am so tired of triple turrets ruining my chances of getting to a objective

[silent fog]

-Problem is, winning vault fights don't matter when one guy is already halfway across the map with the vault. That's what I was trying to say. You just run and if you get wiped you don't lose much but can possibly gain good profit. "You're SUPPOSED to "run away with the vault for the plug money". I know, and it's a stupid mechanic. People who get lucky spawns on vaults or run with it because they're afraid of the fight and want free plug money shouldn't be a thing.
You also mentioned another problem with this, a 3rd party could sweep in and steal your vault for free plug money.
I'm not saying this is always the case, but it shouldn't even be a thing.
There has to be another way to reward starting the cash out.
-I think you might've misunderstood this and reading it back I should've clarified so that's my bad. By doubling I meant when a cash out of a worse team is already ongoing, I just plug the box for the 7k to get first and can possibly knock out the team that was 1st (now 2nd). If I'm second, plug vault for 7k and get above the other team, I'm probably letting another worse team take it/hold it so I can have an easier final. This now punished the other "solid" team with very limited counters. Very low risk, possibly very high reward. No plug money means I have to get my own cash out to possibly stay safe if my team is second.
-It's not just the first rounds of plugs. The first round is not really a problem because like you said it's 3k.
-Calling it reckless fighting might've been a bit exaggerated, but dumb fights happen more often because of the low wipe penalty.
-I'm basically saying there is little risk to plugging the vault and dying. It's a good trade to get 7k for a coin. Can be win or lose, just like that.
-The strategy is that simple and I've already done it many times. It feels cheap and shouldn't be a thing. There's not enough high elo players to have actual high elo lobbies all the time where this wouldn't work.

[celest forum]

Was playing a ranked game and was kicked mid match for the game to ask my Birthday.
Always happens but now it's an issue since I want to play ranked

[little vault]

this ranked matchmaking scoring this season is by far the worst matchmaking ranked climbing has ever been

[bold moth]

"it's free cosmetics, stop complaining"
yes, I agree, they should be free even if RNG is screwing you over
also what message is your reply's first half even meant to be directed towards?

[foggy tartan]

tgtyu

[calm acorn]

make the wrecking ball more durable

[dusky knoll]

I hate turrets

[hearty bough]

For turrets - one data reshaper completely shuts this down

[royal forge]

real, it is so stpd imo, imagine spending that much time in a match the game deems "easy" for you to finish 3rd place and still lose points.

[kind slate]

2nd Game in a row, a team with 2 guys, which play with a unranked one... The unranked 15/0 or 20/2. Pls why noone bans them... And this on Diamond...

[craggy basin]

PLEASE FIX THE WHEEL I HAVE LANDED ON EVERYTHING IT JUST HASN'T GAVE ME THEM YET]

[mighty ibex]

Just had a tournament with EXTREME lags on Seoul. Flamethrower fire hits not registrating, carriables dropping out of hands randomly, defibs not hitting, revives taking an extra second, dome shields completely disappearing while deploying & barriers not placing. We were humiliated by a random bad medium and a heavy with MGL32 and Charge N Slam, which he always dealt 200+ damage with, while my Charge N Slam didn't reg, hit or knockback at all. Terrible game optimization or matchmaking, even felt like playing on servers on the other side of the planet. I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually the case. Can't believe the game I love keeps kicking me in my intime area over and over with issues, bugs, errors and FOMO excuses.

[cinder whale]

Fix Kyoto lag pls it’s always on that map and only that map that the game just shuts its self also please nerf throwing knives they are so annoying

[cyan pawn]

hey embark can heavy feel like an actual class and not a fat dude with a nurf gun, right now it seems as if heavy gets outclassed special gadget and gun wise what does heavy have to make up for that? FUCKING NOTHING BUT WORSE MOVEMENT AND AND 30 SECOND REGEN TO FULL EMBARK PLEASE.
isnt heavy supposed to be a powerclass?
AND I DO NOT MEAN nerf medium and light to make heavy stronger i mean FUCKING BUFF HEAVY NOW not next season not the season after NOW please embark please please please

[rancid falcon]

just committed suicide in THE FINALS
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1284570249248641127/1303460531654496318/image.png?ex=672bd5b7&is=672a8437&hm=f827d34956911305d049dcbe799f3eca13d3eee9303e0f2e24285b63524a83a3&

[unreal zodiac]

this channel be like NERF WHAT I DONT LIKE!!!

[naive tundra]

[lean tree]

Fix the spawns (rework them)
Buff Mesh Shield (Remove the CD)
Buff Dome shield (Put the timer that it lasts back to 11 seconds but keep the 750HP)
NERF SWORD!!! Please do something about this
Revert Model Range nerf AND NERF DMG Model
Buff FCAR (Add DMG and take 5 bullets away)
Give AKM just 36 bullets again (Let the AKM and the FCAR shine in their own way)
Fix the matchmaking (Why i always get one teammate who doesn't know how to play the game)
Remove sledge
Remove stun
Lastly on a side note:
You guys removed cash out for S3 a whole season of 90+ days. Said you wanted to work at it but made it actually so much worse. The whole game is becoming so frustrating. In S2 my grind to Diamond 1, was great. I had so much fun playing this game. Since S3 the joy for the game is slowly leaving.. i catch myself becoming much more frustrated by the state of the game is in right now. This game had and still has so much potential

[granite vector]

i could fire a shot right into someone's face with the model and they take 10 damage. embark, pls fix

yes there is no HS multiplier. however i was talking about how i could literally be 5ft in front of them and they take damage as if I was halfway across the map

[lost talon]

add more 5v5 infinite respawnS modes

[mortal notch]

Shotguns don’t have a HS multiplier

[jagged vector]

I think we can all agree how messed up the spawns are and where the cash outs spawn aswell. There’s no reason that as a team who got wiped you should spawn father away than the team that wiped you to the vault. Or spawning 200 m with 45 seconds left on the cash out. It happens way too much and is quite frustrating. The game isn’t perfect and everyone will have a problem with something but the things that’s should be fixed are the the things that affect everyone

[little vault]

ranked changes that need to happen:

1. fix this ranked scording/seeding. it's not fair to be placed in the top 3 seeds for 90% of my matches when there's no one that can win 90% of their matches. it sets everyone up for failure and frustration. making it to the 2nd round should ALWAYS reward some amount of ranked score

2. when someone quits a match in progress, they should receive 2x the loss for intentionally leaving their team ESPECIALLY when that team is in the top half of seeds. players who quit often should be placed in a quitters queue and match with other toxic players

3. better matchmaking. no one should be high gold or low plat facing rubies.

4. the RS rewarded during a tournament should be able to go up/down over the course of the tournament based on player & team performance

5. #1 seed should not risk 1800+ RS to gain a mesely 500 for a tournament win (not to mention that they'll still lose RS if they get knoced in the 2nd round)

6. if someone on the team quits mid match, the people on the team who stayed should receive 1/2 loss of RS. that other half (from each player) should get added to the loss of the quitter.

[bold moth]

the wheel would still have a purpose if you could still use it to work towards a VR purchase???
although honestly, these rewards probably would feel better as challenge rewards rather than gambling rewards.
also like why are you so pressed? Almost everyone wants a change to the wheel to lower dupes

[violet basin]

let me leave the match without penalty if both my teamates just left the game

[tulip steppe]

Can we get rid of the pike already?stupid dmg, stupid range, stupid ttk, stupid mag size lmao. But seriously the nerf did 0 its still cracked asf

Revert FCAR mag, dmg
Revert AKM mag
Model is alright
XP is mid
M11 has too much range
Buff revolver
Buff MGL
Nerf sword range, dmg
Nerf Deagles, dmg
Buff CL splash dmg

And again!!!! Nerf that f****** pike!!!!!

[steep crag]

Please make barricades place partially if blocked. I would rather have one panel gone than die because there is a potted planet in a 16 mile radius.

[sick mulch]

I agree with the revolver, it's close to trash tier right now in terms of reliability lol

[lapis oriole]

Remove this purple light from the contestant > weapon preview selection 🗣️

[lost talon]

sry what does ur name say? oooooh remove light and heavy??? hmm ur not biased at all...

[cyan pawn]

actually embark if you dont care enough about heavy being fun to play in ranked can you atleast add some type of gamemode that is just season 1-2? (with nukes balance changes ect)

[dusty plume]

that's mostly joking, I'd be happy about model1887 doing 1 damage per pellet overnight, also you should check the rest of my profile 😜
no but in all seriousness, I want the best for the game in a logical manner and think what I said is reasonable

[glad ginkgo]

BUFF SLEDGE

[vernal ridge]

I agree with most of the suggestions, however, saying that model is alright and then seing my friend who is new to the game and who doesn't play shotguns in other fps games and seing him destroying lobbies with the model is prouving that model isn't alright

[celest berry]

Remove the Plugin bonus and add 50-80% of the cash as ticking money and rest of the money is at the end ----- This will force more proactive and more consistent gameplay instead of going for 3rd partys and hide until one team got wiped

Revert the spawnsystem, loosing a fight and than be rewarded (spawning on the station) for loosing is a so bad

[wide void]

I agree. It very much is RPS. Plus, even when you are fairly and evenly matched, it's boring and doesn't flow well. Sometimes team wipes don't matter at all -- you can wipe once or twice and still get the cashout in the end -- and sometimes just 1 teamwipe spells the end, all depending on really unintuitive factors like if:

you started the cashout too early (because they steal so early on that it leaves you with too little time to recapture, whereas if you waited to start and then they stole it, you would have more time to recapture)
they started the cashout too late (because you manage to steal it, but the cashout is so delayed that they have time to recapture)
how many respawn tokens everyone has (which is practically luck-based based on how previous two 4-team games played and isn't really fair to the 3v3 set)
how far away you/they respawn after a wipe (I've seen the respawning team get a kill within 5 seconds of respawning... smh)

It wouldn't fix everything, but the final 3v3 round would so much more fair and play so, so much better if Embark stopped trying to be "original" and just made it King of the Hill instead of the regular last-second-stealing BS. Or if the cashout timer reset whenever it changed hands.

@sudden spire TRUE

[nocturne shale]

i get that your a mega casual who doesn't care about the competitive aspects of the game and did you know that besides the akm medium has the famas, pike, fcar, model shotty and so much more that is just better than the akm? Man I suck with every gun besides the akm because it has more bullets and less recoil and that i cant learn to use one more gun. Lmao

[sudden spire]

I hate that my character randomly drops the barrels when I pick them up. Makes them absolutely useless in a fight

[narrow vine]

When playing tournament if two possible qualifying teams have the same amount of money by the end of the match, whoever qualifies shouldn't be picked at random or by who cashed the latest cashout (Or whatever bullshit criteria the game currently uses). It should be based on the general performance of the teams, like for example total team kills.

[high frost]

EMBARK!!! YOU JUST PUT ME IN A 25K-30K RS LOBBY (AS I AM IN THAT RANGE) BUT GAVE ME TWO UNRANKED TEAM MATES, ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[vernal path]

the team wipe, need to be a bigger loss. It dont feel like it matter in this state of the game.

[silent fog]

Please fix the huge performance hit that happened after patch 3.14.

[rare ingot]

g

[jade ingot]

g

[civic orchid]

how is it possible that a tournament where there are only platinums like me is classified easy and in first place makes me get 600 points but at 7/8 I lose 1000 and yet it is a lobby where we are all the same rank, do yourself a favor enbark fire the dev who thought of this crap scoring system where there is no meritocracy and not even sense in giving points because in a platinum tournament I can't see easy difficulty written, but hire someone who understands fps to help you a decent rank system in one year you have only caused trouble with these ranks, what disgusting.

[white elbow]

Embark wanted to remove mesh shield juggling and decided to give it an 8s cd to solve this issue. Genuine question to whichever dev decided on this, wouldn't anything between .75-2s cd do this exact same thing while not disabling their ability for 8s at a time?

[dawn valve]

STOP PUTTING ME (a light) WITH 3 LIGHTS EVERY ROUND. YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE PLAY. MAKE BALENCED TEAMS

[woeful bolt]

thats not really the games fault if you are a one trick queueing with other one tricks

[slender oasis]

Y'all need to direly fix your fucking game! It's not only crashing, it's not only lagging, hell it's not only DCing me, it's literally crashing my ENTIRE fucking internet as a fucking whole! It's beyond an unplayable glitch it's a danger to my PC and my internet signal. I prefer it to not cause me to be unable to use my internet as a whole cause of my favorite game.
To note, other people are having this issue as well to varying degrees (a few close friends off the top of my head). I wish to get to E1 from E3 currently so please fix soon. This has literally happened out of the blue. Last weeks I've had 0 issues with it internet wise, no issues since the beginning of the season (I was amongst the unlucky that were unable to connect to any matches).

[placid obsidian]

Day 2 of asking for console users to have native keyboard and mouse support on crossplay matchmaking. Insurgency: Sandstorm uses a nice system where if you do not have cross-platform enabled, you cannot use m&k. I would really appreciate this system be implemented into The Finals.

[rich sonnet]

Would be nice if we could change optics from the respawn menu

[dense saddle]

Is someone else getting way worse freeze when they come back to the lobby and getting kicked after it it’s so annoying reinstalled the game twice already and nothing please patch it quick 🙏

[covert yacht]

does it feel like the anti cheat even works?

[fervent coral]

The spawns on here are horrendous

[thorn kelp]

Enough with the bullshit feedback on here, here's something that I would definitely improve the QoL of The Finals when it comes to cosmetics (talking about hairstyles/facial hair)

When a hairstyle gets introduced into the store, include the other color varients for it. You can even introduce this in a bundle format. Take the Bowl Cut hair for example, it'd be really nice if this was added with a blonde, brown, red, and gray style. You only introduced it in the battle pass for a single page and I think it would be extremely beneficial to your audience if they unlocked the different color pallets with it or just have those in the store to buy

[tough kiln]

Yes! That's exactly what I'm talking about. And the nonsensical respawning is also a huge part of it.

Honestly I feel like half the problem is just mismanagement of expectations. Is this supposed to be a more competitive, balanced shooter or a goofy, crazy not to be taken seriously meme game? They promote it as a more serious shooter (yes it's still a game but you know what I mean) and so I feel it's fair to expect things like this to be better designed for what they are intended to achieve. If I want to go play a goofy meme game with friends there are many better options out there that actually know what they are about and lean into that. I come to the finals for an intense, competitive shooter experience and often find it lacking in the final round.

[winged basin]

buff xp

[unreal zodiac]

fix the spear

[modern marsh]

Please ban Kyoto, unplayble map, not a The Finals map, moving platform is the worst modifier even worst than desert Vegas, not suitable for heavy at all, worst fps performance on this map too, the water is also a awful addition, remove this map ban the map do something but PLEASE REMOVE THIS MAP

[ripe herald]

I think making it a 5.56mm long Pike is the only solution

[stone hazel]

i just spawned over 200 meters away from my own cashout what the hell is that

[turbid mortar]

I know it won't happen, but please revert the dagger back to how it used to be. It was one of my favorite weapons last season, but it's nearly unusable this season, and I have yet to see a single person using it. I get that people might have complained about the quicker backstabs being a problem, but changing it so I have to hold down the attack button for around one full second? is excessive, and I honestly wouldn't have minded if it was just tweaked so that the actual animation took longer without having to hold down the attack. Every time I think maybe the change isn't so bad and hop into the practice range to experiment with it I'm reminded that yes, it actually is that bad. It was a great counter to snipers and heavies, and it still felt balanced since lights and mediums with half decent movement could easily outplay a dagger user.

[smoky gust]

especially with how hard it is to read at times
i rarely use dagger, and from the few times i did to use it since the change, i probably lost about a dozent cashouts to it
i often think im ready to stab and let go, when it was not ready and just does nothing

and there are way more cases where its "just" a kill i dont get which results in my death

instead of doing nothing if held for too little time, which makes it feel unresponsive and overly punishing
it should do the ready up animation for dagger on tapping it and then either stab as soon as possible (like old dagger) or hold if the button is being pressed (like current dagger)

@brittle obsidian
with old dagger, you at least knew that if you pressed the button, it would actually stab
with current dagger, you either risk letting go too early, and dont stab at all, or charge for longer, wasting time

it may have made it easier to use in some situations
but its not an objective improvement, because it literally added downsides

[brittle obsidian]

onetricks when their terrible ahh weapon gets an objective improvement:

[drowsy stump]

Add a system for you to set up the ideal team. So when you que it will look for people who main the characters I want in my team. It would help people like this guy or people like me who get stuck with lights because that’s the dominant class people pick

[acoustic quail]

revive has to be canceled like in battlefield

[ionic grail]

Nerf Pike
Nerf Model
Buff FCAR
Buff XP
Revert AK Mag Change
Buff Mesh
Nerf Charge
GIve us a new anti cheat
Give us streamer mode
Hide ranks in the game until post game
Fix server stability and performance
Buff Revolver
Remove plug meta

Once again the game ends up being fuckin tedious to play through hackers, target griefing, teaming, terrible spawns, like its almost as if we had it nearly perfect in Season 2 and you decided to throw it all away

[steel imp]

decrease the delay between opening and closing a wall with demat

[dull quarry]

nerf model fix performance

[quick coyote]

nerf model fix performance

[dim forge]

Based take. Haven't myself seen cheaters though

[covert nest]

I dont know, its strange as hell and honestly embarrasing from Embark

[iron bough]

The game has been horrendously buggy this season, performance is the worst, and it's been hell to play in GFN, sorry Embark, you are killing this game.

[patent wind]

i agree with all but the end: s2 was horrible lets be real, it was third party spam all day, also "fix plug meta" how? removing the plug bonus is just not it, we need that reward at the beginning. i suggest fixing spawns but idk

[azure tree]

Can we hide the ranks in ranked again like we did in TA. im so tired of watching the other teams be scared of the top team and constantly avoid them. its just not fair. show the ranks after the game ends

[frank holly]

FCAR Buff:

• Increase damage from 22 to 24
• Revert the recoil pattern to Season 1
• Decrease Mag from 25 to 22

[latent niche]

hOW ABOUT WE ACTUALLY BAN TOXIC PLAYERS OK? I ASK FOR RES PLEASE AND I GET FLAMED BY A 150 DMG 3 DEATH HEAVY 🙂 🙂 🙂

[stoic drift]

if light ever actually gets nerfs to his extremely powerful weapons and gadgets this game'll get a lot more fun, instead of just nerfing medium and heavy

[brittle obsidian]

thats literally all light has, and med's weapons are still better

[queen rapids]

You're out of your mind if you think lights need nerfs

[last kite]

I cannot connect to any matches. Is there a quick patch in progress or is there an error on your servers?

[rough storm]

Oh bwoi just remove that ridiculous model already how hard is it to nerf the shit out of it with it's 1-hit ability. It makes this whole game Luck > Skills
Why would you ruin your own game like that?

[worthy mesa]

Think it’s to do with how many friends you have on the finals, one of my friends deleted everyone and his works fine now, mine on the other hand is frozen for 15 seconds everytime

[uneven rampart]

Nerf Model

[viral stump]

Taken a break and have been playing BF2042 and it's a breath of fresh air actually having your scope be accurate to where your bullets are going. Realised just how bad it is in this game, definitely needs to be fixed and ASAP.

[dusky apex]

https://embark-studios/helpshift.com doesnt work where I cant send the crash data report ??? (plz fix server crashes)

[edgy anchor]

got this bug where i was doing a reload animation and after it's done i can't shoot, no idea if it's actually bug but i don't think that's supposed to happen

[sharp estuary]

BAN KYOTO

[celest berry]

Activate the Anti-Cheat its obv. deactivated for some reasons

[fervent coral]

This is damn near insane ong

[stoic drift]

Light has never been seriously nerfed so you don't know they're necessary for the game to be balanced. off the top of my head many light weapons do an unfair amount of damage very fast and they should have harsher damage fall off, the stun gun shouldn't exist, the throwing knives shouldn't be infinite, the sniper should not have tighter hipfire than the revolver(and frankly I don't think it should be in the game in the first place), you should not be able to draw the bow while dashing, and the sword should not pierce the riot shield with the lunge and I'm not a fan of it's ability to cleave, it is the only melee weapon with those two traits, and light's shotgun is the only one with a mag instead of round reload. and @rough storm the model should get nerfed but you're a light main that's how it feels getting killed by lights in half a second with basically every gun you have

[candid dagger]

Nerf heavy

[queen rapids]

As someone who mains Light. Trust, they dont need one bit of a nerf. They nerfed light when they made stuns not take away heavys rockets and when they nerfed light by making it use more invis ability upon start.

Lights are the lease used class at higher ranks and theres a clear reason for that. Here's how I look at it, in order to be good at light, you have to be highly skilled. In order to be decent at heavy or medium, install The Finals

[loud kayak]

[rough storm]

I main heavy (and medium model) this season. Haven't touched light since season 3
To solve ur problem they should revert AK and buff other weapons but Model is restarded. 2 hits me on medium and 3 hits me on heavy with FULL health.

Also light is not hard to kill this season, only if they carry stun gun, and even then.

[coral turtle]

Make a custom game please

[lean tree]

• Fix the spawns (rework them)
• Buff Mesh Shield (Remove the CD)
• Buff Dome shield (Put the timer that it lasts back to 11 seconds but keep the 750HP)
• NERF SWORD!!! Please do something about this
• Revert Model Range nerf AND NERF DMG Model
• Buff FCAR (Add DMG and take 5 bullets away)
• Give AKM just 36 bullets again (Let the AKM and the FCAR shine in their own way)
• Fix the matchmaking (Why i always get one teammate who doesn't know how to play the game)
• Remove sledge
• Remove stun
• REWORK MGL make it bounce but on direct impact explode instantly

Lastly on a side note:
You guys removed cash out for S3 a whole season of 90+ days. Said you wanted to work at it but made it actually so much worse. The whole game is becoming so frustrating. In S2 my grind to Diamond 1, was great. I had so much fun playing this game. Since S3 the joy for the game is slowly leaving.. i catch myself becoming much more frustrated by the state of the game is in right now. This game had and still has so much potential

[tulip steppe]

Embark can ya'll actually nerf that pike? Its hella broken and so is that light sword. Idk what y'all did to it but sword mains feel unstoppable this season. Fix it for the love of all things.

Some of my suggestions:

1. Revert FCAR mag, dmg(basically s2 fcar) 20 bullets hella dmg
2. Revert AKM mag.
3. Model is alright
4. XP54 is mid revert it to s2 XP54.
5. M11 has too much range
6. Buff revolver IDK how but this thing needs a buff. Maybe reduce that crazy ass kick back recoil.
7. Remove* MGL. This thing is already useless and annoying to play againts Buffing would only make it worse. It has no place in this game.
8. Nerf sword range, dmg
9. Nerf Deagles, dmg
10. Buff CL splash dmg or remove it from the game.
11. Give medium a crowbar as a melee weapon. Like sword except it can crit

And again!!!! Nerf that f****** pike!!!!!

Thank you....

[bitter iris]

nerf sword damage

[stoic drift]

I said seriously nerfed two small tweaks in the entire lifetime of the game are not comparable to the many nerfs that medium and heavy have gotten, some justified like nerfing rocket damage(only thing I can think of rn) and some ridiculous like gutting the APS turret into uselessness, crippling the CL-40 by reducing the blast radius, or taking 4 bullets out of the AK. The stun gun and invisibility are still extremely powerful. Give me actual reasons why light shouldn't get any nerfs besides "trust me bro".

[queen rapids]

Things shouldn't be nerfed just because they havent been nerfed before.

Nerf something because you have a valid argument on why something should be nerfed. Im having trouble trying to understand the logic you are giving.

Invis and stun is OP? You look at a light and they die. Lights invis and stun are good and dont necessarily need a buff as Id argue they are already balanced. Play against better players and youll see the invis is really only beneficial if you can catch someone straggling away from their team which at the higher ranks just doesnt happen much hence why they dont need a nerf.

Shit, we just got a nerf to our pistol last patch... Made me completely change guns because of it which in a result puts my play style to be more aggressive and up close as the pistol allowed for further shots.

"give me reasons why it shouldnt be nerfed"? The entire class isnt played at the higher levels, they die in the blink of an eye, invis is loud and still visable, theyve dumb a few minor nerfs to lights recently as well. You're argument of invis and stun is that light class is OP?

You're greatly confused if you think light is an OP class.

[coarse dew]

you are SO DUMB

[dense hazel]

I know SBMM is needed for a team based game like this but can you seriously tone it down SBMM in pubs please? Literally just keep getting stomped in power shift and quick cash by like top emerald players and its getting tiring

[echo urchin]

Someone posted this video earlier, I’ll try to remember and give them credit, but yeah, it’s ridiculous.

It’s a feature that gives people with crosshair overlays or actual cheats an advantage while also making the guns tedious and frustrating for any normal players.

[nocturne shale]

thank the lord that you are not a part of embark my god

[quick coyote]

buff CL-40

[edgy lotus]

this game really needs a "last second steal" mechanic. If a cashout is about to clear but it's being stolen, don't let it clear. If they stop stealing, even for a second, let it clear immediately. I just had a game that ended with us in second because the timer was actually a bit faster than the match timer said it would be. I mentioned this before and someone metnioned it would suck for teams who just managed to barely hold out for long enough. Okay, and the current system sucks for people who just wiped the opposing team and already started stealing but the cashout is gone.

[wooden atlas]

Please Embark leave sword alone 🙏

[prisma dagger]

FIX AUDIO BUG EMBARK I DONT WANT TO HEAR SHOOTING THAT NOBODY IS DOING

[gaunt sphinx]

you're absolutely right, thank you for saying this.

[uneven dagger]

Here’s my genuine honest to god feedback:

WAAAAAH WAAAAAHH

[rugged temple]

Please 🙏

[rough storm]

Just stop

@tulip steppe Guess we found another Model user
"Model is alright" argument: Trust me

[tawny karma]

Balance the game. Stop putting me in a 5 stack ruby diamond emerald 50k+ kills 3k+ plus hour lobbies in casual power shift as a solo q with 4 people that have never played the game before

[lean tree]

If you think model is alright while every other gun is getting nerfed into the fucking ground please stop... If they want to 'balance' the game they should definitly 'BALANCE' the model. Triple M model meta is out of this world, just ready to wipe the floor with any team

[stoic drift]

Things should be nerfed because they are unfairly strong, light hasn't not been nerfed much because he's balanced, he hasn't been nerfed because the devs have baffling light favoritism.

You still haven't said anything about all the things I said in my first reply, if those aren't valid critiques about light what do you want from me.

You look at a light and they die, unless they're invisible and don't see him or he stuns you and your gun shaking makes you miss or you have a close range weapon and just die. The stun gun has no downside, an invisible light can use it to start a fight at a huge 18m distance and have a massive advantage on top of the element of surprise and he can interrupt a cashout steal with it and get out with no effort. I never said that invis is overpowered, the stun gun is. I think it should be removed from the game because it has no counter and is extremely unfun to fight.

Where is that pistol nerf? I looked at the last couple patch notes maybe I missed it. Regardless the pistol is still incredibly strong I've seen multiple lights using it today. I don't 100% follow the patches so my bad that I've missed some nerfs but genuinely I'm asking, when has light gotten a nerf to a weapon or gadget that made it useless. Useless like the APS turret not 'invis takes more bar to start' or 'stun gun range down 25m to 18m'.

I hate the argument that light isn't played at a high level, he is. If you don't see a lot up there that's just matchmaking bias. I was just watching a stream today in Platinum where lights where everywhere in ranked and dominating. It's a moot point anyway because we all see different matches.

So yeah reasons why any of the things I said in my first reply to you are bad ideas besides "he isn't used in high level", and @coarse dew n @nocturne shale you can call me stupid if you want just like I can call you a pathetic light main but contribute to the discussion it doesn't help anyone to just say "no ur dumb"

[tough folio]

Too much of any class is making the game feel dull. Triple Light = Playing wack-a-mole 24/7 but the mole has a nuke. Triple Medium = Low risk, high reward with the amount of defib/heal beam stacking (more roach like than lights). Triple Heavy = Trying the tear down the Great Wall of China with a 2 inch chisel.

This has to end somehow

[crisp heart]

FOUR WORDS
add hud safe area

[queen rapids]

Homie you think the CL-40 didnt need a nerf and believe that Lights are overpowered.

Glad you are not on the Embark team lol

And the pistol nerf was they limited how fast people can click which reduces the DMG output and overall TTK of the gun.

[hazy mango]

you can buy the items with vrs

[tulip steppe]

Bruh.... This Is why I suggested they buff the other weapons instead of just nerf shit. Nerfing everything inorder to balance is just gonna take the fun outta everything. No one ever complained about the model till they nerfed all the medium ARs, mesh shield and light weapons partly. My point is that they should revert the ARs to bring a little more diversity as you said, "Everyone running shotgun". The pike is atleast switching up the meta but it's too OP. reverting some of the weapons I mentioned plus reverting mesh shield will shake up the meta.

Also yes. Model is balanced idc what you say lol. Because its being used too much ya'll think a model user is impossible to beat.

@rough storm ??please tell me sire...why isn't the model balanced?

[velvet plank]

add an option to adjist texture streaming budget for more fps

[dull quarry]

nerf model fix performance

[pliant glade]

i love opening a box of oops all models, that or model pike crunch, great flavor combo. I mean, it's the most popular cereals for a reason

[nocturne shale]

Once again glad you are not on the Embark team lol. Saying the sniper should have a worse hipfire when its already difficult to use and has a slower fire rate than revolver and that the bow shouldn't be useable with dash is absurd it might as well not be in the game with what your saying lol. Riot shield is already cringe as is and if the sword couldn't pierce it wouldn't make any sense like why can a normal melee pierce the shield??!?!? Also CL - 40 is the ultimate i cant aim but 2 shot kill people weapon without that nerf is stupid. Will say though that the revolver needs a range buff its horrid. The meta has been M M H or M M M since day one and you rarely see lights in ranked and in scrims lights might as well not exist since medium is better in most situations. (Also i dont know if you know this but light is a glass cannon it needs the high damage since it has barely any health lmao)

[rustic tusk]

For the love of god, please work on skill based match making for casual

[nova sedge]

i PRAY that dual blades get buffed, they are the only weapon i use on medium and these are the changes i think would be awesome 🙏

• Get rid of the final attack (or just speed it up 🙏 ), and just have the first two attack animations, the final one fucks up the rhythm SO bad because it takes so long, forcing you to quick melee mediums and praying against heavies and GOD FORBID you miss with it because that shit takes AGES to reset

• Let me interrupt my own attacks with a block, it would feel SO cool to be able to quickly put up my blades and parry incoming bullets mid fight, but the animations feel so long since the block can only be used when you're not currently swinging

• all the other melees get to sprint while attacking except for dual blades, spear and sword, but they are all viable while dual blades is literally the worst weapon in the game, PLEASE let us sprint while attacking PLEASE (please ❤️ )

its probably a bit much but i dont think any of this would make them anywhere near meta, just so much less clunky and more fluid to play with
im on my KNEES embark please im BEGGING ❤️ 🙏

[viral stump]

100%, I was on the cusp of using a overlay but just decided to put the game down until they fix this sort of stuff. Hopefully it gets addressed soon 🤞

[gaunt sphinx]

STOP LISTENING TO YOUR COMMUNITY

YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE HOW TO BALANCE THE GAME YOU MADE, SEASON 1 RELEASE WAS EVIDENCE

< make an event where you revert the game back to season 1 as it released for everyone >

something something back to the past theme

just gauge the reaction to the event, trust me

[lean wyvern]

WHERE IS THE RANKED TERMINAL ATTACK????????? WHAT ARE U DOING? TAKE ME BACK MY MONEY

[cyan pawn]

YES PLEASE EMBARK do this please do this DO FUCKING THIS, just revert back to season one and see the issues and sort them out DIFFERENTLY aka not nerfing every weapon to the point where the game feels overall very much worse

[upper citrus]

“Please embark let me play the worst fucking gamemode known to man”

Also they said in early season 3 that ranked TA wasn’t permanent. If you didn’t know, that’s on you.

[thick sorrel]

WTF WHERE IS SOLO BANK IT? TAKE ON ME I'LL BE GONE IN A DAY OR TWO!

[stoic drift]

I didn't say it doesn't need a nerf, but in it's current state if you aren't hitting nothing but direct hits you're doing very little damage and heavies are very hard to kill even with the additional grenade in the chamber. They went too far with it. if that's what the pistol nerf was it must be a minor decrease because I've still seen pistols shoot very fast. And if you're not gonna give me any defense against the critiques I gave you then I don't value your opinion on lights.

and @nocturne shale I'm not a game designer but I play a lot yeah I think the sniper should have unreliable hip fire, it is a sniper with a huge scope a light jumping around in your face hipfiring a sniper is infuriating. The revolver's hipfire should be as tight as the sniper's, and I think the sniper shouldn't be in the game in the first place because long range gunfights are antithetical to what this game is all about. The bow is balanced kinda balanced because of the draw. It deals a massive amount of damage but you have to slow down and draw it first. Being able to dash while drawing nullifies it's one drawback(lol) and is overpowered.

By normal melee do you mean the elbow? I didn't know that goes through the riot shield, huh. Regardless all a riot shield medium has is his defense, a light being able to just lunge through it is insane. What is a riot shield supposed to do against a sword light who can lunge at him, get away, and lunge again and kill him because he can't block it?

The problem with the current CL-40 is because of it's explosion range reduction if you don't land directs it does very little damage, and the extra grenade doesn't help because by the time you get to that 5th shot you're probably dead anyway. A fire rate increase might help that but I dunno. At least we agree on the revolver needing a nerf.

But also, the problem with light is he's both an ambush/flanker and a glass cannon. One or the other would be fine he's both, that's the problem.

[wooden atlas]

Best feedback in a long time 👍

[rough storm]

If you want all weapons to 1-shot people (which is what Model does) go play COD, this is not the type of game for that. If all weapons would be buffed to the standard of 1-hitting in almost every fight like the Model 1887 (which is what you're saying) i'd instantly uninstall the game cuz that'd mean it would be even more pure lucks over skill based.

And you're saying no one ever complained about the Model?!?!? were you here last season? Cuz if so you were living under a rock.

Your arguments have already been refuted a thousand times last weeks/months, so i'm not even gonna bother anymore.

[lean tree]

Model is not balanced bro, compared to the other weapons it is not... That is what balancing is -_-... I have been saying that they should revert back to the old AR and buff mesh and dome shield back so that is a part i agree on. But still model is not balanced buddy it is not how much it is being used, it just is OP at this point, if they are not gonna revert the AR changes and some other nerfs they just should nerf the model.

@rough storm FAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[vale acorn]

Every time I go light and get paired with two other lights I ask them to double down and stay light so we can be a nuisance to the other teams. Go team shorty

[rustic tusk]

FIX THE FUCKING MATCH MAKING

[bitter iris]

fix performance

[nocturne shale]

Medium can heal teammates, revive teammates faster, remove cover and enemy placements, provide amazing movement for the whole team, has really good close range medium range and far range weapons, can place traps and turret, can place aps to counter all projectiles. Also pike beats sniper and bow in a majority of situations if you can aim at all. Has 100 more hp than light so you can tank way more. Your telling me light cant be a ambush/flanker and a glass canon when medium can do just about everything besides major building destruction not including the cl-40.

[olive nymph]

I have a big problem, all I'm getting into is PC lobbies (I'm Xbox) and I can't compete, they have 0 recoil and an entire arm to aim with, I only have my thumbs so I was thinking why not let us console players play mouse and keyboard like season 1, saying I'm only getting into PC lobbies

[tulip steppe]

That message wasnt sent to you pal. I asked you why you think the model isn't balanced and so far, you haven't even given me a good reason lol. "It one shots everyone" isn't valid...Double barrel one shots lights. What's your point? It two taps a heavy?? The model 3 taps a heavy. What's your point? Pair that with stun gun and invisibility... model takes skill, if you lose to it then that's a you problem

[modern ether]

can we nerf charge ffs, it should not do half my hp when it touches me once. Legit rpg and spamming charge and you are dead instantly, like you nerf all these other parts of heavy that legit dont needs nerfs looking back, keep rpg nerf and nerf charge and revert previous heavy nerfs and its better, takes no skill and is sword+dash levels of annoying,

[neon kettle]

hi I wanted to add a friend while he was on a match but the game froze, this happened twice, anyone has this problem??

[brave copper]

I've been carrying on about medium forever- since release. Idek the overall context of what your saying but ik for sure that medium is the definitive class of the finals.

I hate that the discourse is always about light and heavy when defibs are the single most op and gameplay loop effecting loadout item in the game. Not to mention medium has the most teamplay and well rounded weapons.

medium had literal wall hacks on release ffs...

[dim forge]

I think 100 dmg for each charge hit would be perfectly fair, and also reducing the max damage of the slam to less than 350

[quick coyote]

BAHAHAHA😭😭😭 but ones annoying to deal with and unwanted

the halloween wheel is TERRIBLE
i should not feel angry for completing challenges and getting nothing
i cannot express how awful this lootbox pathway is for games
sending hate from australia 👎🖕🇦🇺 🐨 🦘

[hallow nimbus]

they shoulda made it so all items on the wheel can be bought with VRS so i dont have to keep spinning the wheel just to have useless VRS i cant spend anymore lol

[carmine ginkgo]

nerf light sword

[obtuse crag]

This idea is specifically for quick cash, ranked, world tour, and bank it. I think that the same four colors for teams is really boring, my take is that they should add more color variation (like 4 more colors) and to make it so the team you play on isn’t always blue (from your perspective), the color of your team should be the same from your visibility and the enemy team’s visibility. Some colors that could be added are Red, Green, Pink, and White. I think this would be a great change for season 5 to mix things up a bit. (Apologies for the rant)

[thick sorrel]

10/12 Ranked Players are Medium. Model is totally fine. Balance is super fine. Nobody plays Heavy or Light - so it is very fair!😂

Random Dice Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 5.0.0

Pike

• Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM
  Dev Note: We suspect it may still be too effective, so we'll adjust in Season 5 maybe.

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... deal with it.

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Dual Blades

• Decreased blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

MGL32

• Reworked: Grenades need to bounces 3 times before detonation
  Dev Note: It's so bad, I can't even make fun of it. Anyone?

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Revived Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not annoying enough.

Healbeam

• Dogwalking plays the Theme from Ghostbusters
  Dev Note: What is Dead May Never Die

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Flash & Hulk
  Dev Note: We thought the lightning-fast sprint activation and damage level of the Hulk Smash expressed this much better!

[wooden atlas]

Sword needs no nerfs

[quick coyote]

damm! evasive dash really needs a nerf, ppl just use it infinitely, increase the cooldown or reduce the charges to 2! its broken as it is now

[somber lynx]

The dematerializer range is too wide and difficult to use. If I open the floor and try to shoot the floor below, I fall, or if I try to put the open area back, I am left with a little hole.

[fierce elk]

Agree, they nerfed heavy's shield, it's time to nerf light's dash

[modern ether]

im thinking more like 80 per hit then 200 max slam damage, it will still do alot but makes the user more careful with it. Because you gotta remember its easy to get stuck in the heavy charge so he can hit you multiple times

[nocturne shale]

i have a feeling you dont use dash lmao

[deep valve]

my big thing rn is the rpg can inflict more damage to yourself than an opponent. Should be the same no?

[stoic drift]

yeah I'm saying that a class with incredibly powerful weapons with the tradeoff of low survivability shouldn't also be all about flanking and catching enemies by surprise. That creates a class with incredibly strong weapons who's entire kit is built around flanks and ambushes so they are able to run circles around opponents and delete them from the game in half a second without the enemy even seeing them. The medgun got nerfed by overheating faster, all of the mines got nerfed pretty harshly to only being able to carry 1 at a time for no reason, the APS is useless now that it drains its health to delete grenades, Pike v sniper is up in the air but this entire game is built around close range engagements and the existence of the sniper throws an awful wrench into it. Before the pike was added/without a pike your two choices were lose half your health from something out of your control and take cover or just die, and even with the pike the sniper can outrange it. I wish 100 hp was significant but that doesn't mean shit against a light vomiting damage in your face. 100hp isn't that much hp, especially against a light or if an errant grenade or sniper has tagged you. Medium is highly versatile, that's his thing. The light should not have the guns to be a glass cannon but be built around flanks and ambushes because it is incredibly unfair and unfun to fight against. @brittle obsidian ok. wanna say something of value orrrr?

[brittle obsidian]

plastic 7 takes

[vapid drum]

You know you can turn off cross play

[nocturne shale]

So you remove the cannon part of a glass cannon and have a completely useless class that there is no point in playing at all cool. Whats the point in flanking someone when you do 0 damage and die instantly its completely stupid. Medgun is still dumb you dont need to look at your teamate at all to heal them. Mines were awful since you can throw down 2 at the same time 1 shotting lights and crippling mediums. After you throw a mine it doesn't take that long at all to throw down another one its so you cant stack that shit which makes it a reasonable change. Aps having infinite charges was that's stupid and doesn't make any sense. With a lot of light weapons if you miss even a single shot your practically dead so if a light is whiffing on you and still able to kill you its a complete skill issue seriously. Litterally one of the only reasons light is viable is its long range if you remove that why have light class at all. The medium class being highly versatile in everything is the problem it should be meh or fine not oh i can play this or anything else for the team.

[shell raven]

add smokes to medium lights barely use it and it would probablty see more use on medium where they can use it to support their teammates, instead of lights needing to dedicate significant utility to mobility/survival

[jagged vector]

To everyone who complains about the model why arnt yall complaining about the lights shotgun? Why am I getting 2 pumped by that thing? That thing needs a nerf

[sonic spoke]

Do something about the freaking hacking and exploiting. It is ridiculous.

[somber lynx]

If i or a teammate crashes in a ranked match, I would like the negative to be cancelled.

[quick coyote]

that weapon is kinda fine, it just shouldnt kill another light with just a single shot (not talking about HS)

[full linden]

This game is my 13th reason why.

[tropic snow]

is there actually no way to upgrade the bronze pumpkin badge?

[granite vector]

because all the ones who complain about the model are lights, they're not gonna expose the OPness of their own main class lmao

[rugged swallow]

How do I make bugs report? Played on PS5 and sometimes while playing the game my crosshair suddenly disappear from the screen. Very frustrating when playing world tour( only ways to fix is end the match), happened at least 4 out of 10 games I played, also sometimes I can't trigger my iron sight button (L2) until I died and respawn,

[neon burrow]

Lights dash got a nerf before Heavy caught a nerf

[graceful lion]

a halloween event is cool n all. for a few days. and OCCASIONALLY having spooky maps would be fine. but rn, all we do have is kyoto in rotation and shit visibilty on any map. if a spooky version came up once in while instead of ALL THE TIME, it would have been way better. im not even complaining about the wheel or something, just the general feel of the game rn.

the update did nothing but (re)introduce bugs/glitches that rarely happened anymore.

feels like they forked the halloween update like 5 months ago and just pushed the code to live

[ruby island]

Game is crashing a lot today. Even on a brand new CPU and GPU.

[keen abyss]

Dash got cooldown nerf like 3 patches ago

[fervent coral]

Disable dash like how yall did recon senses its perfect balance

[wooden atlas]

Leaving us in a cloak meta… 🤡

[rotund sluice]

i know GeForce Now is not probably seen as a priority, but its been terrible for me too. It used to play at 1440p 60k at ultra very stable, now no matter what graphic setting it is laggy and unreliable. It used to be a game that felt native, not anymore :(

[twilit fossil]

A lot of the top pieces don't line up very well with the skirts, but the hoodies (namely the VAIIYA Restore and Kangaroo Hoodie) look especially bad since they have a wide lip around the top of the skirt. It would be cool if some of the upper cosmetics that bunch up above the pants like this had an alternate version so that it doesn't bunch up on the skirt, the same as how pants have different variants for whether you're wearing boots or smaller shoes. Right now there are some upper body options that you can't really take with skirts because they just look weird.

[vapid drum]

SWORD NEED A NERF

[carmine ginkgo]

Nerf light sword pls

[rugged temple]

Don't nerf sword.

[delicate basin]

Why? Right now I think y'all are just bad

[hard magnet]

The bow needs something, it is a project that is harder to hit than the sniper yet the full charge headshot only does 180

[wooden atlas]

Leave sword alone Embark 🙏

[oblique atlas]

Yeah it’s only really strong for players that are skilled with it, at times they make it feel like there’s nothing you can do, even then there’s plenty of room to counter.

[winter vapor]

you guys HAVE to add some sort of punishment for ragequitters, it absolutely ruins the game on all modes where it isnt implemented.

[bronze pumice]

• Model nerf (108 damage)
• Pike nerf (RPM lowered)
• Make the spear alternate attack cancellable
• Charge & Slam nerf (50, 80, 130 instead of 130, 50, 50 and make it so you have to commit to the slam at the start)
• revert XP-54 damage nerf and lower range
• Accessibilty option which allows for tap fire and burst fire weapons to just be held down
• Release the other variants of the hair used in the rockabilly outfit, they existed in the OB but we only got the blonde version in the battlepass back in S1
• Would like to see sys$Horizon and Fortune Stadium eventually get some love with variants

[merry chasm]

Trade in full VRs for 25 multibucks???

[jagged cedar]

thanks gloop

[wooden atlas]

Harder than it looks—try it sometime

[oblique atlas]

I have a grudge you’re a light player, no XP shouldn’t get full revert if anything instead of the 2 damage decrease, it should’ve been 1 with the recent buff to dmg drop off, models already been nerfed enough, pike RPM for sure to high, and just because you face hug heavies doesn’t mean charge and slam needs nerf, you shouldn’t ever get hit by anything other than the slam part as a light, you literally can interrupt it with stun gun or you know dash out of the way or run, the best defense is no be there.

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. And also please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[turbid mortar]

weird how this "objective improvement" has resulted in the weapon going from rarely seen in matches to literally never seen in matches. In season 3 it felt underappreciated. Now it just feels useless. Please explain how making it possible to flub an already high risk attack by letting go of right click one frame too early is an "objective improvement" because from where I sit it's just a flat nerf

[unborn osprey]

bring back terminal attack ranked, world tour and ranked tournament are literally the exact same gamemode just reskinned with new rewards, TAR was hella fun and different

[elfin oasis]

THE FINALS go back in GFN ABYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Finally

[wide void]

CL-40 sucks. Only 100 damage at most when it's a projectile, and it does up to 160 self-damage. When is the last time you saw someone using it in WT? And when is the last time they won? In my experience, answer to the latter is NEVER since they nerfed it so heavily. It needs some fixing.

[jagged cedar]

TA ranked was terrible in almost every way shape and form

[latent niche]

Please increase movement speed while Riot Shielding or increase swing speed. You just can't kill a light w/ dash.

[feral adder]

Pls no, if they buff it they ll overdo it and then it’s busted again, just learn a weapon that takes skill

[main gull]

Nerf Medium Model

[solemn sedge]

REWORK SWORD
Remove the glitch to double-hit with the lunge attack
Make the lunge attack have a longer cooldown
Sword is usually fine but is super annoying in high elo
Plz fix 🙏

[topaz jetty]

Or just REMOVE the sword entirely, that would be great

Letting terrible players utilize a janky hitbox for a free 140 damage is so fun to play against

[pastel cypress]

Not so great matchmaking. I just had a game where all players on one team got 20+ kills each and took all cash outs, while the rest of the lobby had either just left or got absolutely destroyed. No one else got higher than 4 kills. I understand World Tour is supposed to be a casual mode, but when you get matched with top players and lose every fight, it's not fun. It wouldn’t surprise me if they were cheating, but there's no obvious way to tell.

[thick sorrel]

Sounds too good to be true. Here is more likely what happens today:

Random Dice Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 5.0.0

Pike

• Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM
  Dev Note: We suspect it may still be too effective, so we'll adjust in Season 5 maybe.

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... deal with it.

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Dual Blades

• Decreased blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

MGL32

• Reworked: Grenades need to bounces 3 times before detonation
  Dev Note: It's so bad, I can't even make fun of it. Anyone?

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Revived Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not annoying enough.

Healbeam

• Dogwalking plays the Theme from Ghostbusters
  Dev Note: What is Dead May Never Die

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Flash & Hulk
  Dev Note: We thought the lightning-fast sprint activation and damage level of the Hulk Smash expressed this much better!

[wide void]

I hate World Tour and how it is the only mode that gives you Win Points. I want to play the other gamemodes, but then I'm not getting to Emerald. If you're not going to fix the awful spawns, unpredictable 3-or-4-team fights, or really anything about the mode, then at least let me play the other damn modes.

[turbid mortar]

Why would other gamemodes add points to your world tour rank? And unpredictable 3-4 team fights? You mean the whole point of having 4 teams? You don't have issues with how world tour is set up, it just sounds like you do not like world tour, so just don't play it. Who cares about getting emerald?

[errant moth]

How can black ops 6 run better than this shit, sorry for the bad word but like holy, FIX YOUR GAME, there’s no way I can run a whole new cod that takes more power, I honestly don’t know if I’m going to continue this game if every update it get laggier

[mortal notch]

Me I do use a 3rd party crosshair and it is not cheating or not allowed by the devs rob has said multiple times he is fine with it and to just be careful as they’re automatic anti cheat may flag if it changes game files

[wide void]

1. I'm saying it's stupid to add FOMO rewards (Emerald Skins) to only one gamemode and expect players to grind hundreds of hours in one season over it. It's also the only gamemode that rewards multibucks.
2. Normally I'm okay with unpredictable 3-4 team fights when winning isn't extrinsically motivated. When I play e.g. Quick Cash or Power Shift, I don't really care about winning so much that losing frustrates me. Now when you have to win in order to make progress to rewards, it's many times more annoying when losing is largely out of your control because multiple teams decided to focus yours first or the spawn/vault/cashbox positions just screwed you over. Or you have a braindead teammate.
3. Embark has already stated they were trying to reduce the number of 3-4 team fights in World Tour. That's why they made some of the changes they did. Which just leaves me wondering why the hell they even have the mode in the first place.
4. "Who cares about getting Emerald?" Uh, a non-zero amount of players? I'm not saying Embark is 100% at fault, but you know it's possible for them -- as other game companies have done before -- to make a gaming experience that people don't like but still play to sate some FOMO/addiction/curiosity, right? I'm saying they've made World Tour unsatisfactory by making it such a long grind fueled only by wins. I wouldn't mind playing it without rewards, because intrinsically it's a little fun, but when you slap rewards that require such lengthy grinding, I'd wager it causes more frustration and burnout than fun for most.

To fix this nonsense:

1. Award Win Points in all gamemodes (even if World Tour remains the most consistent source) and/or reduce the grind
2. Make the rewards NOT FOMO. Do like Overwatch does and allow you to choose any 1/2/3 Emerald skins you want, not just 3 preset ones
3. Do something about people who are already Emerald 1. They're just gatekeeping the WPs. IMHO, give WPs just for having to fight them...

[uneven dagger]

Gimme more fomo, let me flex on my loser friends

[fading cliff]

My teammate on World tour teaming up with an enemy which was probably his friend just to get a little pumpkin badge. So ANNOYING
https://youtu.be/wJF0KcTN4Wo?si=IM0del13Q-bvs177

[cosmic compass]

I just hit ruby is there like a ruby rank is world tour? or what exaclty is the difference and did i just grind out the wrong one??

[violet elbow]

there is no ruby rank in WT no, Ruby is top 500 in ranked

[warm basalt]

I want to be able to save some crosshair settings in order to switch between my presets (with names of course ^^)
And while we're at it, make the switch crossair preset configurable with a control key ^^

[fading sinew]

FFS EMBARK,

[severe linden]

Revert V9S changes. Bring back the lower damage and faster fire rate.

Before you could fire incredibly fast at the cost of accuracy. You had to learn to fire fast with it whilst aiming. It became an invaluable weapon choice.

You were able to miss a few shots and still kill your opponent quickly if you could fire fast enough. Due to the new firerate if you miss one bullet thats it, the opponent has already killed you.

[violet elbow]

^

[young ingot]

can we please have the grit and glory empty reload animation available for selectable for m60 skins if you have it unlocked 🙏

[wide void]

You forgot to mention the most important part. Make it and ALL other weapons full-auto -- at least by use of options/settings.

You shouldn't have to press left click for every individual shot -- that's not a skill. Macros can already achieve full-auto. And there's already buffering in the game, anyway, which takes away having to time your shots.

[dense ocean]

day 51 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[patent fractal]

Give me a femboy skin
Please im beggin on my hands and knees for this
Edit (i will NOT be backing down from this one) v

[rough herald]

^
i second this

@wide void You shouldn't have to aim -- thats not a skill, aimbot can already achieve 100% accuracy :P

[rapid wyvern]

I like the random skin idea

[round hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-silent-line-armored-core-pile-bunker-die-skill-issue-gif-8496825542249230751

[wide void]

That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying that clicking repeatedly isn't a skill because it can be macro'd. I'm saying it's not a skill because it doesn't change any of the mechanical or strategical inputs you do as a player. Repeated clicking doesn't affect how you aim

[obsidian ginkgo]

dont listen him embark, no one weapon shouldn't give ability wipe whole team solo

[quick coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/giggle-chuckle-hahaha-holding-laughter-gif-15462551

[oblique atlas]

Also there’s people who don’t have the hand dexterity due to medical conditions, I do have to disagree on your last point though, I believe repeated clicking does have a pretty big effect on aim, also depends whether you use m&k or controller.

[tiny bear]

the model nerf literally did nothing. It feels the exact same

[wind meteor]

Nope it did a lot. My kill count decreased 30% after the nerf. If you're still have a problem with it, it's because you've been and you still are playing stupidly against it. No issue in the nerf, it's a skill issue my guy.

@violet elbow if my kill count decreased 30%, which were the mid to long range kills which were exactly what was targeted by the nerf, then I'm dog shit? You're clearly a butt-hurt light with English comprehension problems 😘

[violet elbow]

"the nerf did something and the proof is that im dogshit at the game"

[rough herald]

it dose add depth and Repeated clicking dose effect aim (faster you click shackier the aim), its add risk reward factor, like the original msg said "you could fire incredibly fast at the cost of accuracy"
just like ads vs hip fire, you can track close range better at the coats of accuracy

and for the buffering its debatable, but imo its better this way cus you are not punish for not clicking on beat perfectly

@violet elbow 😂😂😂😂😂

[round hornet]

The reason model was and still is hard meta is because you get to play full support medium while matching the close range potential of lights and heavies purely by choice of primary.

The range was mostly a bonus and should have been leaned into when rebalancing the weapon. Nerfing it not only did not solve the problem, but actually made a new one. Without improving the range there is now no way of readjusting the close range power to make it fit medium's design philosophy without making it useless.

[tiny bear]

@wind meteor not really bro I’m plat 1 almost diamond in solo q ranked so I would think I’m pretty good at the game😂 at close range still a 2 tap to medium is a massive problem. nerf hasn’t changed the Meta one bit. if ur kill count decreased by 30% maybe it’s a skill issue for u cuz it’s still busted lol.

and for the record, what is defined as long range kills with a shotgun? cuz when u say long range I’m thinking sniper distance. and that was never a problem. long range with that gun is midrange with an AR, which is still pretty powerful in that you can 2 or 3 tap people across a pretty open room. long range is very subjective. Obviously they nerfed it after a certain distance but it is still powerful. and idk where you got 30 percent from😂 is that a calculated stat or did u just come up with that off the top of ur head? cuz if 30 percent of your kills were diminished from “long distance kills” how can you define 30% in relation to the distance at which you are getting kills. it doesn’t make sense, it sounds like ur pulling stats and a consensus out of the air

[scarlet jackal]

Lol, the only way to enjoy the game is to create a new account.

Unbearably stupid player selection in absolutely every game mode. Why in WT I play against three teams emerald 1 with excellent kd and more than 4k wins, and I get two vegetables who just downloaded the game? Why in the ranked arena the situation is the same? Why even f** quick cache is the same?

Make already a normal selection of players, give the opportunity to choose whether I want to play against other players or only solo-q. Team play does not work, no one communicates through the microphone, no one puts pings, but you are constantly playing against a full party sweaties. And I even silent about cheaters situation, who give not a single f**, ban for day or two and come back to game again. Gunplay worser than in was in betas/s1/s2

But on a new account, it's just a breath of fresh air, no MMMs, no sweaty players every f** match regardless of mode.

Embark, make casual - really casual. Try to play in the your game instead of reading ML graphs. At least give us the proper feedback

[lost talon]

heal beam and pyro stuff is negative, otherwise seems decent

[frank holly]

fcar buff when...

[restive gate]

All in all solid changes

[chilly kettle]

Thats just the risk you take when you choose to solo queue 💀 If you have that much of a problem with it then you shouldn't be playing a literal team-based game without a team

[sinful zealot]

dont fall into the trap of nerfing everything like siege did because i havent seen any worth while buffs of recent memory

[wind meteor]

I agree, man. Good points.

One side that really makes the model efficient is that it fits perfectly into a support class: you can heal, then stop just to land a good shot in time.

I personally love it because I'm way better at flicking than tracking, so I like it's hip fire accuracy. And since most fights happen at close range during cashout, it becomes optimal. I can still manage the same kill count with an AKM, but depending on the map, and the cashout locations. As for powershift I perform better with an AKM due to the nature of the objective.

[tired fable]

"Riot Shield

• Fixed an issue where the Riot Shield could catch on fire"

FINALLY, LETSS GOOOOOOOO

[green walrus]

Bro the pike is alrdy op 😦

[upper citrus]

No model nerf but MORE healing beam nerfs LOL

[fallow idol]

If yall gonna keep neafing pike just take it out of the game....... sheesh

[wide void]

@oblique atlas Honestly, unless you're clicking as fast as you possibly can and have a weird grip, it doesn't affect it that much. I can click over 10 times a second without noticeably shaking the mouse. V9S "only" demands 6 CPS.

But either way, you could always bind Fire to other buttons/keys -- and have 2 binds at once -- to avoid affecting your aim.

So yeah, we really should just have full-auto lol

[dusk forum]

I love how lights seething over 1887 since it's only viable option left in close range against them

[bleak nexus]

another healing beam nerf? idk if its that much annoying to fight against people that are being healed tbh.

[gaunt condor]

light population going to skyrocket after model and pike nerfs, Im not playing this 💩

[limber ingot]

fix cant shoot bug fix cant sprint bug both exists since s1 and are game breaking what are you waiting for ? no one cares about shit like doing healing contracts with self damages, how about working on things that really matter ?

[sharp jasper]

Pike nerf, Terrible change.

Constant nerfs over the akimbos, make less effective at close range, 6 shots to kill medium, 7 for Heavy.

Already at a disadvantage close quarters with terrible visual recoil and still nerfed.

Looks like the pike is shelved and back to being a famas demon

[restive crow]

Fcar buff when…

[rocky ledge]

embark did not think of introducing critheals and HP/s deduction on taking fire then just straight up decreasing the effective range of the healing beam, calling "not a direct nerf" is baffling

[shut gyro]

If this patch had model nurf and Fcar buff, lewis buff, mesh reverted that would have been the bast patch ever

[unreal fossil]

Disappointed that the patch notes don't mention server performance improvements, or a fix to the recent weapons audio bugs.

HB nerf will actually hurt any team comp that's not 3M the most. Lower regen rate, shorter range, if your team only has 1 Medium healer, he will struggle more than ever to do his job. The more Medium healers, the less this is a problem.

I also see this as an indirect nerf to Heavy, as it was the class that benefited the most from a good Medium healer.

Overall, this is steering the meta further away from LMH, which should be the ideal.

[idle pivot]

new update, game opens, game crashes

[dark niche]

WOW still no model nerf is crazy legit a walking shotgun game this is gonna be and why is there no COSNOLE ONLY MATCH MAKING, i swear 90% of console players want this as well.

[cosmic narwhal]

day 5 of asking for a ready up button

[lament depot]

completely braindead patch

[simple arch]

change equipment/gun levels to be much faster and with prestige's, not much reward other than killfeed weapon icon changes such as stars for example, also make end game summary even more of a summary and not on a second page but more of an overlay i dont know a person who doesnt immediately skip it

[fringe hatch]

What you mean could you not put cross play off??

[wraith orchid]

great balance patch,

for light just revert dash nerf and revert or change sniper nerf and we are good to go

ofc there are other things too but for me these are the most important at first. (would love a dagger movement buff too)

[serene ledge]

Please reveal Emerald rewards much earlier in the season.

I and many others do not want to grind every single day to get to emerald just to be disappointed with skins for weapons we wouldn’t even use.

Not knowing what I’m getting makes me uneasy. I would like to know what it is I’m grinding for way ahead of time so I don’t feel like I wasted my time if they end up being weapon skins I wouldn’t use

[uneven dagger]

Big changes embark 👍

[worn horizon]

The pike nerf is good. Sword seems fine, it got buffed when it was alrdy good so it’s justified.

[scarlet jackal]

Bro, SBMM exists for a reason, and it’s literally there to keep the game fair. Without SBMM, it’s just a total mess—you’ve got players who just downloaded the game getting thrown into matches with people who’ve been playing for years. It’s not about “solo queue risk.” It’s about making the game fair for everyone, even if they don’t have a squad. Not everyone has a full party on standby every time they log in. If every mode is a sweat-fest, casual players are gonna bounce. Not every game needs to feel like you’re playing a tournament final, especially in “casual” modes.

And for people who actually want to grind and get better? SBMM is what gives them a real challenge without ruining the game for newer players. Sure, it’s not perfect, but it’s way better than playing the wild west where skill doesn’t matter at all, and you just roll the dice every time you queue.

Oh, and don’t even get me started on cheaters. SBMM at least tries to keep the experience balanced, but if devs don’t keep cheaters out, the whole thing falls apart anyway. They need to step up the bans and make it harder for cheaters to keep coming back with new accounts.

Bottom line? SBMM might not be everyone’s favorite, but it’s the best way to make games fair and enjoyable for everyone, not just the sweats.

[mossy tinsel]

pike nert whyyyyy

[mighty cedar]

And another Fuck you to medium players. Great balancing Embark

[keen radish]

We have gone through so many seasons, and we have also produced so many weapon skins, but every time we change the skin, we have to cut back to the player's interface and replace it one by one. Can you come up with a random favorite skin and let them change it once in a game? I think this will greatly improve the use rate of weapon skins. I have to cut the player interface to change the skin every time. Obviously, there are so many skins I like.

[wide void]

show us the damn Emerald skins already, it's almost been HALF THE SEASON
nerf Model 1887's damage
buff CL-40's damage
buff KS-23's damage
buff/rework Spear
buff MGL32 (just make it explode on direct contact, too...)
buff FCAR's damage
buff/rework Riot Shield
buff/rework Dual Blades
reduce cooldown on damaged Mesh Shield from 8s to 4s
nerf Charge 'n' Slam's damage
buff 93R
buff XP-54's damage (from 16 to 17 seems fair?)
make the Recurve Bow stop shaking the camera back and forth and changing the FoV when firing. or at least make these options.
remove the projectile gimmick on the SR-84 and just make it hitscan again. literally every other gun is more consistent than it.
buff Explosive Mine damage to at least 125
nerf Defib (make the holograms destroyable, either by damage or by glitch effects)
change invisibility to be true invisibility (instead of this pseudo-invisibility that you can still actually see), then nerf it in other areas. at best, this "hard to see" shit is a crutch for noobs that only works against noobs, and it's an accessibility issue at worst
add full-auto as an option to every weapon so you don't have to repeatedly click

lmk if I'm missing anything.

[lost talon]

It's not that it's the range the modle has that's the problem. Cuz it's fair medium has a strong up close shotgun as all classes have that, but the moddle does too much damage at range, it's sooo annoying cuz u can stun gun the medium dash a distance away but the moddle will still damage u enough for u to either force u to have to run away or just die

[waxen grove]

Now we're getting in the state where the devs on their side are nerfing stuff and on the other side players are asking for more nerfs. Keep up like this and the game will die in a few months and it will be your players fault guys. We don't need more nerfs ffs, BUFFS BUFFS AND BUFFS. what's the reason for having a weapon without its effectiveness. Wipe the sweat out of your asses and enjoy the game. S1 and 2 were perfect, most of the players had so much fun. Since s3 that everyone started throwing nerf this nerf that game is going lower and lower.there are weapons that almost no one is using it. Let us use our brain and make our own loudouts, we don't need meta...

[violet elbow]

PIKE SHITTERS COPING

[lament depot]

TTK going up infinitely is literally killing the game

[zealous grove]

IF WE DONT GET MODEL NERF THAN BUFF SOMETHING PLEASE

[dusk forum]

It barely does any dmg further than 15-20 meters now (tested in practise), almost any light weapon can outdamage it

[thorny hare]

Game developers really think nerfing everything in the medium kit is the way. Meanwhile, model is untouched and has become the gun that can wipe an entire medium team without reloading. I feel like a dumbass for giving this company any money.

[red arch]

buff fcar
buff ak
buff dome
buff mesh
buff xp
nerf model
nerf lh1
glitch cancellable defibrillator statues
buff glitch mines
buff standing still invis
buff heal beam slightly
buff glitch nades/on impact

[solemn sedge]

Whatever this was, shit take, that’s mb. Didn’t reach the patch notes enough.

[round hornet]

Almost like medium is supposed to be good at mid-long range and bad at close range, and having the opposite is game breaking.

This also severely impacts heavies.

[lunar fable]

What are we doing nerf the model already

[old minnow]

Changes

Heavy
1.Dome shield
make it so you cannot shoot or interact with anything while inside dome shield
Make it so enemies cannot enter shield
Make it so it lasts for 10 seconds
Make it so dome shield has 1500 HP

2.Akimbo .50
Make it so it only mini crits

3.Mesh shield
Make it so you can quick Melee

Medium
1.Riot shield
20% bigger
You can’t shoot their toes
They can block all damage
You can sprint at full speed while holding the shield

2.Healing beam
There’s an alternate ability that uses it 3x faster but protect them from 60% of damage and the medium takes 50% less damage

3.Defib
make it so when you respawn , you have no HP but immediately start regenerating add an additional 5 seconds of cool down but 1 shots
opponents

Light
1.Dagger
Make it so you have to be standing right behind them and looking at their back and it automatically charges it and you can’t hold it while it’s charging it disable cloaking and it takes 0.3 seconds to charge but immediately discharges as soon as you look away from their back while charging and stabbing, you cannot use any specializations

2.Cloaking device
Instead of using the duration of the specialization when you activated, it takes 40% when you deactivate it When you cloak, you are completely invisible while standing still and crouch, walking and slowly walking, but you become more visible. If you take damage, this makes it easier for people to find lights this would finally make it valuable in high tier ranked and it would not be overpowered it would actually be balanced for once

3.M11
Reduce damage by 1

Ranked changes
Make it so RS is directly connected to your score instead of having to win, make it so the higher up you go the easier it is to derank to wear at diamond you only have to lose once to derank this would make the competitive environment actually competitive instead of being a TimeSync and people in top 500 can actually be dethroned

Controversial changes

Melee Weapons

Dual blades
Increase the range and accuracy of which it can deflect make it so if you hit a critical hit, you take no damage the final slash is now activated by holding down mouse one or right trigger and does 120 damage each consecutive hits deal an extra 10 damage

(All secondary abilities are now activated by holding down left click or right trigger.
And all melee weapons can now block they cannot block bullets. They take 50% less damage from each other. Excluding dagger, this weapon cannot be blocked or block but they can be Perryed
Riot shield cannot parry)

Perry it allows you to stun your enemy and take no damage the last for 0.5 Seconds You can also Perry bullets, but you still take damage unless it’s dual blades you cannot spam Perry if you block there’s a cool down for Perry ing for 0.4 seconds if you are perryed you can still move You just can’t attack

[copper elk]

nerf model

[restive berry]

Please fix the inaccuracies of the revolver. Having moving inaccuracy and bloom on the first shot of a precision hand cannon with 6 shots feels bad. Thank you. Also if you could make it so the iron sight always stays dead centre of the screen at all times, that would be great. Missing because you're in the air and the iron sight is off centre also feels bad. Other than that the revolver is great.

[rough herald]

clip by @mortal notch

[thin grail]

huh? wdym
it's not really a buff, the animation is just 0.1 sec shorter and the sword dashes you forward a little less

[hearty rose]

At this point the game is in good state of balancing

I would demand the team work more on the optimization part of the game more since some severe destruction causes problematic fps drops

And also please please please add FSR 3
I have to use TAAU for scaling and at distance people look like ball of spikes.

Thanks a lot for the update though pretty awesome

The things you guys do in one week take an eternity for some big companies to implement in their games.

[amber orchid]

the nerfs to healing beam have been ass.

model can pull off the greatest snipes known to man, but we cant even heal outside of a single house room in Monaco now?

shit is ass, i hope they stop nerfing it

[sour cedar]

Why are the pumpkins missing from world tour?? I thought I'd try getting it done in the last 24 hours since most people probably will be doing that too instead of tryhard sweating, but they haven't spawned on Monaco, Syshorizon or Kyoto... You really don't want people to do this "LTM" at all lol

[modern marsh]

Embarks when everyone is complaining about things : nothing
Embarks when one light is complaining about how he can't kill heavy and med : instant nerf

[thorny lynx]

Your changes are terrible AGAIN. The game is literally painful to play now. Why did you ruin a good thing. #bringbackseasonone

[limpid rampart]

1. Valid
2. Would be cool but unnecessary
3. did you play the game beginning of this season?
4. Valid, i think?
5. Melee weapons (outside of sword) will never be above T2, sorry
6. no
7. Valid
8. See #5
9. See #5
10. Valid
11. Please embark.
12. They explained why they can't in an earlier patch
13. Looking at the XP is like looking at my grandfather with dementia. A shell of its former self.
14. No comment because i dont use it idk
15. You obviously didn't play enough TA in season 3
16. Valid i guess
17. ACTUALLY THE REALEST SHIT I'VE HEARD ALL DAY
18. As a cloak main since CB1...nah man. Keep thinking about this one though because you make a good point
19. idk tbr

[solemn sedge]

AT MORE COOL GADGET SKINS

[idle oracle]

Funny you say that, it is rather the opposite. Light dares to have one thing, and it gets nerfed while it was still unviable. Medium model meanwhile is still a problem after two seasons, and it took ages to get the rocket launcher to somewhat dealable levels.

[dusky apex]

Much needed updates thanks

[dull summit]

Please fix jack o lanterns. Came online to complete the objective and its no longer on the maps despite having 22 hours left

[rancid falcon]

Steam recording support would go so hard, i'm sick of nvidia instant replay lagging my game to death

[rapid jackal]

Anyone game not connecting to servers?

[topaz crow]

Why nerfing my sword

[tender sail]

Wow, back to what I had to say day 1... fix your fucking spawns

[vernal swallow]

OH MY GOD EMBARK FINALLY A PYRO MINE SKIN YOUR SO AWESOME LETS GO

[old minnow]

Please unNerf sword melee is never oppressive all the other melee weapons need a buff. You do not need to Nerf sword and is the only good melee that is in the game

[delicate basin]

The sword nerf just seems annoying. Noobs will still complain. You have now also pissed off sword players, because they have to unlearn the old sword range.

[restive crow]

Totalllyyyyyy agreedddddd

[hazy shore]

sword is slightly strong = nerfed as soon as people start complaining. model broken for seasons = takes multiple months and patches to actually change anything 🤡

[dark niche]

no doesnt work like that anymore im not waiting 10 hours to find a world tour match cuz thats insane, they removed ps5 and xbox only crossplay meaning i have to find 23 other xbox users on the same region at the same time.

[wide void]

#2. I believe Model two-shotting Medium and three-shotting Heavy remains a pretty big deal in teamfights. I don't mind it 3-shotting and 4-shotting them with even half-decent aim, but it feels really awful for the "medium range" class to just out-DPS many options at close range.
#3. Yes. CL-40 honestly was NOT broken with 110 damage. And it deserves at least 105, especially if it's going to have such a tiny radius and do 160 self-damage.
#12. They don't have to buff the damage for TTK. They can buff many other things about the 93R. Fact of the matter is that nobody uses it, so it needs something.

[unreal marlin]

Interrupt cashout contract is not counted correctly. There were times that I eliminated the opponent after they release the cashout steal and it counted, and 10 more times the same thing happened it didn't count.

[civic orchid]

funny 10 min for found a rank game , amazing lobby simulator

[somber nymph]

Add a big flashing OUTDATED VERSION when you're in a outdated and have to update would add to the whole game vibe

[slim depot]

Fun game, however, I would like to pop lights like zits with the 150 damage propane tank once again.

[quick coyote]

the new matchmaking widget is kinda bad
who thought that making it smaller and placing in a blind spot of the screen would be better lol

[ivory dagger]

why they nerfed the sword? it takes so high skill to be good with it. I just trained it and now they nerfed it? They should nerf what is realy OPPRESSING like the MODEL which wins every game?!
every same team is winning the final.
2x Medium Model users with defib & 1x heavy. HOW U SHOULD GET TROUGH THAT WITH A SWORD???????? @pearl kiln

[echo bronze]

Spinning the wheel kinda feels bad after you've unlocked most of the rewards. I've just gotten VRs for the last few days, and I'm already maxed with nothing else to spend them on. Makes it feel really futile trying to get the one last reward that I really want. We should at least be able to buy all of the rewards with VRs if the wheel is going to keep spamming us with them.

[sullen berry]

No HUD opacity slider?

[azure ermine]

stop updating kyoto and delete the fucking map its unplayable with the frame rate issues

[ionic grail]

Slower TTK is more skill expressive.

Argue with the wall.

[primal frost]

Evil (😈) suggestion: make it so players can exhange 5000 VR's for 25 (or 10) multibucks

[thick sorrel]

Random Dice Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 5.0.0

~~Pike

• Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM
  Dev Note: We suspect it may still be too effective, so we'll adjust in Season 5 maybe.~~

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... deal with it.
  ** My Note: It's ok to 2-Shot Lights barely CLOSE-Range, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Dual Blades

• Decreased blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

MGL32

• Reworked: Grenades need to bounces 3 times before detonation
  Dev Note: It's so bad, I can't even make fun of it. Anyone?

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Revived Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not annoying enough.

~~Healbeam

• Dogwalking plays the Theme from Ghostbusters
  Dev Note: What is Dead May Never Die~~

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Flash & Hulk
  Dev Note: We thought the lightning-fast sprint activation and damage level of the Hulk Smash expressed this much better!

Spear

• Spinning it plays the Sound Helicopter Helicopter
  Dev Note: This makes you laugh even more.

[wispy ivy]

99% of the time im fine with the nerfs yall make but the sword hitbox nerf was way too much, you basically have to be in their ass to hit them now. add back 30cm at least

[thorn kelp]

W patches, I'm a little concerned for Healing Beam and Sword, but will have to play these when I'm back home

[limpid rampart]

2. Valid but I main light so i try to not speak too much on the model as shotguns have always been an oppressor to lights and that will be a fact of the game that will unfortunately remain.

I don't think that the issue here is that mediums are the "medium range" class but that they are the supportive one. I personally believe the support class should be the least viable for damage, but I understand that they do not want the class to feel shit to play. But as long as they stick to that philosophy, MMH, MHH, and MMM will continue to run the meta in an unhealthy proportion. (Edit: But embark has been making active nerfs to mediums damage! I see that, I think one more small model tweak could make it balanced.)

3. Forgot about the new 1.6x sd. As long as pushing close range continues to be a counter to the GL (and probably will as the dmg increase will also increase sd), cool.

4. I'd love to see a considerable range increase and a buff to it's mag or rpm. XP-54 was never the meta light weapon because it was good but because it was highly consistent. I'd like to see that for the 93R too.

[lament surge]

the fact they keep nerfing the Pike and do nothing to model, in a model meta lmfao 💩 🤣

[vernal path]

One model in a team is strong but still ok, the problem is when its two or three. I believe that is the hard part to balance and not make the gun totally trash in its own

[celest forum]

Community: Revert Mesh shield nerfs.
Embark: No.. So pyro grenades do damage to shields... Now ask again

[half oracle]

Pike is DEAD..... But Model still on Top 🙂

[carmine ginkgo]

Good patch but model still needs a slight damage nerf, too ez damage for the manoeuvrability u get on that thing, considering it can 2 shot mediums

[dry wraith]

I start to think that developers are not playing their own game. I am not a big fan of the balance changes. The developer's explanation for nerfing the healing beam was poorly worded.

"We felt the existing range of the Healing Beam was causing teams to benefit from healing in combat" 

You don't need to heal outside of combat, as you have regeneration.

"We feel with this closer range we open up more opportunities to counter-play teams that are healing in combat, via various Gadgets"

Only the mine glitch (which was directly nerfed at the start of the season) and the glitch grenade.

And the cherry on top is the pike nerf. With 10% damage reduction, you'll need to hit the light four times and the medium six times (half a magazine) to kill them. With how fast they move with automatic weapons, it's a guaranteed death sentence even before this nerf, so right now, it's not worth it

[ionic hound]

another big funny patch by embark that is sure to piss a lot of ppl off, can we get another heavy nerf? too many ppl having fun with heavy so i think we need to nerf the mesh shield again so as soon as u take 30 damage it goes on cooldown. i think thatll fix the game

[wraith orchid]

kind of true but i think the sword nerf isnt really impactful. and its the easiest of all melee weapons so no problem with demanding a little more skill from sword players. but it definitely shouldnt be touched anymore. the damage numbers are perfect

[fervent hull]

never let him cook🔥 👽

[brittle obsidian]

Pike nerf is a great start. A dedicated long range weapon for med should be low damage since it falls outside of med's intended effective range. Too bad the meta remains unchanged because the model will stay broken for another 9 months.

[lapis solar]

Not nerfing the Modell ist crazy... 2 shot a Medium and 3 Shots for Heavy...

[earnest sierra]

Please bring back the old hammer and sword lobby poses🙏(pics are not mine)

[granite schooner]

Please give us Hallowe'en badge for participating during the event and not for completing the random hidden contract that awards it. Not to sound like a broken record but it's sad

[mortal notch]

Why is everyone stealing my clip
Also nerf model
Another horrible patch
@rough herald na idm I’ve just been posting it for a while now like since the end of s3 and only now people are reposting it

[rough herald]

bc it show crosshair displacement really really well
if you want me to credit you edit your msg to let me know

@lavish kite cus the balance roulette wheel told them too

[lavish kite]

Why nerf healing beam

[upper citrus]

The pike is still very good. It’s not meant to be a super generalist weapon like the other rifles. It is extremely strong at range so it also needs to be significantly weaker up close. I would have rather had its fire rate be nerfed but what happened is fine

@unreal fossil the pike now keeps 85% of its damage from max range rather than 75%. That part is a buff

[ivory dagger]

++++++++++++++++++++
the changeINCREASEDs to the sword are extreme.. u need to be "in" the opponents body to hit. why would you nerf sword? if u want to do dmg u have to be IN THEIR body. just think u are IN a team of 2 heavys & 1 medium? u wont survive 1 second and WOW you dealt 1 hit in that time. compare these dmg numbers if you played another weapon. if you do that sword is extreme underpowered. SWORD NERF HAS TO BE REMOVED + DMG NEEDS TO BE BUFFED

[unreal fossil]

I don't think I understand the change right

Its damage has been lowered, alright, but what does the fall off modifier do ? Allows it to keep that damage mostly unchanged at further ranges than other weapons ?

EDIT: yeah, so that's what I thought. I guess that's one way to tweak the gun. The lowered damage will make it less powerful overall, except at longer ranges where other weapons have a worse damage output.

[hidden quartz]

A PVE zombies survival, only 1 team, no tokens only revive and very fast and strong zombies hordes

[tawdry tree]

I think you should play CoD

[silent fog]

Please fix whatever went wrong with the performance in patch 3.14.

[daring musk]

please make eye animations for pets, theyll look more alive :))

[unreal blaze]

Embark,

How to comically show your community that you don't even play your own game by nerfing something that isn't the issue. The issue is the Sword Lunge + Dash 🤦‍♂️

• Decreased lunge duration of the secondary attack from 0.4 to 0.3 seconds, resulting in ~1m reduction in distance, from roughly 7m to 6m
• Decreased the length of the secondary attack’s hit sweep by 55cm
  *Dev Note: These changes should decrease the effective range of the lunge attack by ~1.5m, hopefully making the Sword slightly less oppressive for players facing it. *

[frozen moon]

am i the only one who misses doing solo cashout in private matches with friends? it was one of the funniest things to do, especially with friends, i don't get why they removed it

[tired fable]

actual Sledgehammer pose is so boring

[high frost]

WHY IS THE PIKE NERFED YET YOU KEEP USP MORE POWERFUL THAN AN LMG SERIOUSLY EMBARK WHO IS DOING THE GUN LOGIC FIRE THEM AND GET SOMEONE WHO CAN DO BASIC MATHS IN

[broken geyser]

Dome shield nerf was not deserved. It needs to be reverted to it's original time or more health as compensation. Now with pyro grenades also dealing damage its just unfair.

Pls give C4 2 charges. It epitomises the innate anarchic and destructive capabilities of the heavy class.

[mortal notch]

The nerf that recently happened reverted it to s3 and no one complained abt it then
You clearly haven’t played sword and seen how hard it is to use + if they nerfed/removed dash from sword another community of players would leave

[wind flame]

1. Halloween event brought a new low. gambling mechanics are exploitative AT BEST, i get you guys need to make money, but please dont stoop to this low.

2. Grenade indicators / throw Grenades back, to balance the constant grenade barage, when the APS can only block 3 (half of what one team usually throws at you).

3. Gateways feel strong. Where there's a gateway over a cashout, you can't do anything about it. i.e. no counterplay. Making the Data-Reshaper able to remove the portal before activated seems like a no-brainer.

[rough herald]

also why is the guy in the middle have his pant down?

[tropic snow]

I dont remember anyone asking for medigun range nerf, the healing rate nerf was already enough, youre just punishing good positioning at this point

[wind meteor]

1. lol, pretend it's not there. not that you can't play without it.

2. glitch grenade closes the gate.

[meager wagon]

game feedback: read the #🎡┇the-wheel-feedback channel lmao

[shy swan]

--- 1k hours obvious balence suggestions

• nerf model

• add option to toggle auto mantel when sprinting

• make pyro nades do more on direct player hit

• advanced sensitivity settings

• nerf double barrel range more

• inprove speed n responsiveness of deploying and canceling specs like charge n slam or claw or grapple

• make dome shield last 7 seconds

• nerf light auto shotgun

• add xp boost to leaving voice chat on

• bring back primetime buff that shit made third parties less unfun (scale hp with class tho)

• make defib res for 1/3 or 1/4 hp not half

• tracking dart last longer but 2 darts need reload each shot.

• make flashbangs blind turrets

• invite team to lobby without ADDING THEM EVERY TIME

• data reshape and glitch grenade impact gateways

• reduce charge n slam damage

• light sword lunge aoe nerf

• mesh shield cooldown reduce

• semi auto weapon auto shooting when not clicking fix

--- your game is a simulation u could do anything n your adding less n less each update here some ideas if you cant think of ANYTHING BUT SKINS

• impact grenade (low damage)
• orbital lazer grenade (grenade that shoots down lazer from sky
• more events varity (exploading cashouts and vaults? )
• pipe bomb (remote detonate bomb thing for medium)
• reduce arm time on throwables slightly
• bring back recon sens for medium but it has one large pulse
• minigun and or mounted gun
• gradual healing overtime aoe bomb and or healing turret medium
• all chat for text chat

[signal cosmos]

I don't think the throw Grenade back mechanic is a feature we necessarily need in the finals. A slight buff to the aps and 1 more gadget that's similar to it would be cool. (probably for heavy)

The gateway has the glitch grenade as counterplay but giving the data reshaper the ability to reshape it would be cool.

[bold silo]

SO DEVS LET US UNDERSTAND IT BETTER

LIGHT HAD ONLY 2 VIABLE WEAPONS SWORD AND XP UZI, ALL OTHER YOU CANNOT PLAY AFTER SILVER

AND YOU COME TO CONCLUSION TO NERF 1 OF 2 WEAPONS THAT CAN BE PLAYED

200 IQ MOVES THERE

[jagged cedar]

Why is healbeam still catching strays

[wooden atlas]

This 👆

[forest wasp]

As a heavy main, I am not entirely sure sword needed to be nerfed, but I think all the other changes are heading us in the right direction.

[dry plover]

what you mean sword don't need a Nerf, That Thing still a META, i Just got chase by 2 sword user from different team and it can 1 tap you if your just half health and, it can 3 tap you when full health (without the stund), and 4 tap full hp heavy

[ivory dagger]

are u out of your mind? 4 tap a heavy? should we 10 tap a heavy while u have to be IN their bodies? sword nerfes should be reverted asap! and all u need to FULLY KILL a sword player is to tazer them. tazered sword player is just 100% dead. and u can 2 tap a heavy with combo. u need to have all charges up to do that AND THIS still needs the highest amount of skill in the game. to ectually kill 1 enemy and get out of it alive. WE NEED SWORD BUFF IMMEDIATLY!

[hexed terrace]

Yes but 4 tap a full hp heavy is balanced when you remember to hit you have to be IN the heavy, also you have charge N slam to counter it, remember that it's a melee weapon and can't do anything at distance so yes sword is balanced

[royal dagger]

I play gold and I see every weapons in each lobbies, the 3 medium heal beam are a higher elo thing, gold or lower you will encounter every kind of combo...

[idle oracle]

Sword meta? Light isn’t meta in the first place. Even the really good lights are playing it in spite of light not being meta.
Just grab the broken model, shoot the sword and qm. And if you say ‘but sword caught me off guard, I cannot survive second lunge.’ yes, that is how light is supposed to work.

[old minnow]

Abilities

Abilities are a substitute for gadgets you can unequipped your gadgets to equip two passive abilities

The way you would equip these abilities would be by pressing the upwards arrow button above the first gadget, and it would swap to abilities and do unequipped abilities press the down arrow next to the ability to swap back to gadgets this can only be done in the menu

The way you were unlock these you go to equip an ability and press a ? And it would give you a random ability this cost 1000 VRs

Heavy
1.Plated protector
+100 HP But start regenerating 6 seconds later

2.Heavy-handed
range weapons deal 30% more damage
melee weapons deal 15% more damage
Shotguns deal 10% more damage
No ADS or secondary’s

3.Healthy head
Gain 5% HP per elimination in a row

4.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

5.Long legs
Run as fast as a medium and reload 2x faster but at the cost of 100 HP

6.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

7.Tank
+200 HP start regenerating 8 seconds later But lose the ability to run

6. Swift hunter
   Deal 15% more damage

7.Healthy dose
start regenerating 2 seconds earlier

8.Thick ego
With every elimination gain 10% HP but loose 5% movement speed
(stops when you reach 1% movement Speed)

Medium
1.Plated protector
+100 HP But start regenerating 4 seconds later

2.Heavy-handed
range weapons deal 30% more damage
melee weapons deal 15% more damage
Shotguns deal 10% more damage
No ADS or secondary’s

3.Healthy head
Gain 5% HP per elimination in a row

4.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

5.Insanity
Do 10% more damage and move 20% faster every elimination in a row, but lose 5% of your HP with every elimination
(stops when you reach 100 HP)

6.Elimination streak
Do 5% more damage with every elimination in a row

7.Lifesaver
Revive 60% faster

8.Swift hunter
Deal 15% more damage

9.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

10.Lazy medium
Standstill to quickly recharge your gadgets

Light
1.Raw deal
lose 50 HP but move faster than light itself
(Plus%70 speed)

2.Speed Demon
With every elimination in a row gain 10% speed

3.Great sacrifice
The time between you can use your specializations is 30% longer, but you gain 50% speed

4.Elimination streak
Do 5% more damage with every elimination in a row

5.Spider climb
stick to walls and climb 2x faster then a ladder

6.Lazy light
Standstill to quickly recharge your specializations
(This works while you’re using cloaking device)

7.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

8.Insanity
Do 10% more damage and move 20% faster every elimination in a row, but lose 5% of your HP with every elimination
(stops when you reach 80HP)

9.Swift hunter
Deal 15% more damage

10.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

[mortal notch]

You clearly have no clue what your talking about sword got nerfed to s3 state today
Sword 2taps meds and 3 taps heavy’s not 4
Also it’s not meta

[calm orbit]

there's a bug where players on the same team have different color outlines. In this screenshot I took this fight because I thought it wold be 1v1v2 and I could make something out of the chaos of that. However, all of them were on purple even though one of the 3 had a pinkish outline

[marsh elm]

Add console pool like ow2, apex legends

[limpid sorrel]

The red outlines are still there? I thought that got patched today

[unreal blaze]

Keep being dishonest with yourself that the Sword + Lunge isn't OP, but ultimately the Devs will likely nerfed the sword again making it unusable with any specialization if they don't realize the sword lunge + dash is the issue.

[rough storm]

Cuz CL is a braindead weapon (just like Model) and has no place in ranked. It would make this game even more about luck and less about skills cuz you can hardly dodge grenades being launched at ya and the times that you can the splash damage will damage you plus in the meanwhile the CL user's team has a free pass on beaming you.
I play this game to evade getting beamed at and using your skills/brain, not being 2-hit by weapons.

And even than, give me a CL and i won't do much worse than with any other weapon.
You just let your team go in, heal em and pick the opponents off when already damaged.
Or at moments opp's are clinging together it's a good weapon to drive em apart.
It still is a good weapon, just needs more skill now to use it before it was used as a noob tube.

[limpid rampart]

swag

[river plover]

Im gonna commit crimes if they nerf dash even harder

[bold silo]

The only fun weapon and half viable light weapon is nerfed, sword.

I tried it and it is usless, you get melted by ak or m60 in 2-3sec and you need to close gap and hit perfect combos which need longer.

This game has THE WORST DATA & BALANCING TEAM EVER

IF 90% OF PLAYERS PLAY ONLY 20% OF WEAPONS YOU NEED TO BE MENTALY CHALLENGED NOT TO SEE BIG BALANCE CHANGES ARE NEEDED LOL

Just DELETE the light class and we are good.

IF YOU ARE WONDERING WHY SUCH GOOD GAME IS STAGNERING FOR MORE THAN A YEAR+ AND YOU CANNOT GET NEW PLAYERS, IT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE DUMBOS AND CANNOT BALANCE A GAME WITH ONLY 20 WEAPONS, NOT EVEN CLOSE.

@royal dagger if you want to be sure to balance properly look 2 highest elo data and adjust accordingly, but this is too sophisticated for dumb devs.

I can win in lower elo with bow or spear haha, that is not objective.

20% players play light in ranked, hmm lest nerf one viable weapon that seems like good idea, what a bunch of morons 🤣

I will pay to play this game but hire some compentent data team for balance this is terrible.

[burnt notch]

The Halloween event wasn’t even an attempt to make money, even though the chances to get every single item from spinning the wheel alone is very low, ur still able to get at least 10 without using any currency (unless ur stupidly unlucky). You can barely even call it gambling as there’s no stake involved besides just u spending time playing the game to get tickets.

[uneven dagger]

Can’t solve everything with just damage nerfs to cater to lights, lets see how the usage for pike goes after this but it’s a little nonsensical for the medium dmr to do less damage and be much slower than lights dmr at range to the point that one outperforms the other vastly

[wind flame]

1. The "dont like it? dont use it" argument has never once in history been valid, but lets pretend that it was. i didn't buy anything because of it, but just because i didn't doesn't mean that nobody did. If anyone felt the need to buy something because of it, then it's predatory.

2. A gateway in the air over a cashout or POI cannot be closed this way, as it's out of range of any glitch. you would have to shoot a barrel mid air, or get the angle corret where the grenade explodes on it. Both of which are unreasonable ways to "counterplay" it.

[oak kernel]

It's insanity because it's the range of the pike that's really frustrating, not the damage for me. I'd prefer they made all the dmrs projectile based like the sniper so they at least aren't as annoying of a poke tool.

You really can't fight back against someone who can hit you far enough away, you can just get out of the way. The sniper proved this pre-nerf in power shift. You'd think they'd have learned this. What's wack about this change is all it does is make the pike more annoying at range because it probs won't be killing you, but it'll constantly be poking you.

[shrewd oriole]

There is a difference between a build that is a glass cannon which should do a lot of damage. And a class that is mostly for support. Medium weapons shouldn't be too strong nor should they be too weak. 47 damage seems like the balance that has been needed since the first damage nerf only affected heavies whilst other mediums and lights still suffered from it.

[quick coyote]

Erhm actually the game is not even 1 year old since full release 🤓

[jagged cedar]

Sword didn't get the changes it needed, but by no means was it the only half viable light weapon 💀

[mossy cape]

revert the v9s

[ionic grail]

I can assure you 20% of the playerbase do not play light in ranked.

Nor was sword ever viable in any capacity outside of like low plat.

[wind meteor]

it's about "don't like it don't use it". It's a free game, with a very cheap battle pass that pays you your money back, and now they added a wheel which is a limited time event of 20 items of equal probability, basically for free. It has got NOTHING to do with gambling.

Gambling is when you have to put something at stake and hope you get what you need. Here you are not putting ANYTHING at stake. They give you the tickets for FREE for playing, and you get FREE stuff. Why do people want to get greedy and horde all the free stuff they can, when they don't lose anything if they don't.

If the skins were added to the store, you wouldn't consider it "exploitative". Instead of adding them to a store where you will have to purchase them, you have the completely free chance to get them. People complaining about the wheel is the dumbest thing ever: they could have refrained from adding it, and no one would have said a thing. Imagine giving away free stuff based on luck, and then people nagging about it.

[willow siren]

whats up with the ranked server queue times? i can't get into a game

[red echo]

they struggling to balance the game as it is , add these shit in the game we are fking cooked

@mortal notch lmao wtf are you saying? you just coping all the time xd , sword was fking op , now its not as strong as it was , but def still very strong , i been playing in plat lobbies for a while and from high gold to low diamond , half the lights i face , actually more than half are fking sword players , and they all dominated , it doesnt take much time to get better with it compared to other weapons , all of you sword mains are self procliamed best sword players ever , says a lot about the weapon

[keen radish]

We have gone through so many seasons, and we have also produced so many weapon skins, but every time we change the skin, we have to cut back to the player's interface and replace it one by one. Can you come up with a random favorite skin and let them change it once in a game? I think this will greatly improve the use rate of weapon skins. I have to cut the player interface to change the skin every time. Obviously, there are so many skins I like.

[mortal notch]

Sword+lunge
BYour just going back on your original point
You said sword + dash is op
Also keep coping sword is fine as it is now
@yamoshi.eth#0000
Sword takes a very very long time to get good with
And sword is not and has not been viable past low plat since s2

[ivory dagger]

you are so right. if you play against at least 5 IQ enemies they will just destroy you even before you can do ANY damage. in Plat or lower elo I love to farm these bots with the sword. SWORD/DAGGER are the most HIGH SKILL weapons you have in the game. that means you need to have HIGH MECHANICAL SKILL + GAME KNOWLEDGE to be successful with that. this update tells me, you do not want these kind of players. unlucky for me. everybody can hit diamond or even ruby with braindead AK or something else. the true gamers play VERY BAD WEAPONS (like sword/dagger) to achieve the same... and then you nerf them? 😄 you only want the 0iq braindead gamers in your game but the high skilled players u want to avoid? change sword back at least and better buff its dmg a bit so we can compete with these meta slaves. if not - u lost 1 player. im sadly not a meta slave and i play for fun and im not interested by playing AK or that meta ass shit. then i can play CoD against Bots would be more fun. I played this game since Beta and now u completely ruined it for me. Sad for all sword enjoyers which are REAL GAMERS.

[solid echo]

Need to be able to use VRS as something once you have unlocked everything. Just sitting there at maxed cap is such a waste.

[limpid sorrel]

Yes please. Random favorites would be cool for weapon skins

[smoky sluice]

pls make the dagger only do 320 damage from the back

[terse lark]

this is rage bait right?

[rough storm]

The light double barrel only has 2 shots and is carried by a light which can easily be killed as they have to shoot it from up close so highers the skill ceiling cuz getting away is very hard thus has to be used very wisely. Even if they get a kill with it they'll most probably get killed by the team.
Whereas Models can be used from medium-ranged and is carried by a medium which has all support items aswell so can tank more hits plus gets away easily from the range aswell and can play close to his teammates where as light has to play around and is on his own. So comparing these 2 is invalid broski.

What makes Model OP?

• You can deal 140+ damage in 0,000 seconds, hide and evade damage and repeat this untill your enemy is dead. By the time you finish off your target he will never have done as much damage to you or it has to be a CL or another Model user. There is no other weapon (but CL) which you could do this with. It does 1/3d more damage than an RPG. And it's almost impossible to lose a 1v1 except perhaps from a double barrel or sword user if played well.
• Then, it's the ULTIMATE third party weapon as you just let em fight and go in when all opponents are damaged so you can literally 3-hit em. Even if all 3 start beaming you, you can at least finish off 2 players so your team can very much do the rest. If you all go in together no one stands a chance as your reaction time will Always be slower than the TTK it has.
• In engaging fresh teams you just let your other teammates go in, support (heal) them and once slightly damaged pull out your Model and again, ONE HIT everyone.
• Model is a very agressive weapon so combining it with the supportive gadgets and medium spec is

SO: lowering the damage so it wouldn't 2-hit mediums would solve a lot already, but IMO? The Model 1887 should be switched with the KS-23 (heavy shotgun) cuz the skill ceiling on that one is way higher and acts more as a support weapon.

[icy marsh]

Sword nerf too much ;-;

[restive crescent]

TSR addition is good for the game, the game looks way less blurry, but performance is still terrible

[marsh elm]

Add console pool and pc pool like ow2 and apex for competitive integrity

[sonic spoke]

Sword Nerf was because it was getting exploited. Every sword in the last 2 weeks was emote exploiting. And super dashing. You can thank those players for the Nerf.

[uneven dagger]

revert pike and sword nerf and buff lh1 range

[worn sigil]

@wispy sand you can do that via the equipment menu via the main menu tab since day 1

Click equipment menu, go to goo grenade in any class tab, click the skin and click equip to all, you can do it with all gadgets that overlap between classes

[bold silo]

You are probably right that was a rough estimation 20% it is even lower.

I got to plat 1 but still it was hard AF and had to be much better than opponents and got carried a bit along, so you are right here as well.

I am 100% sure none of the team is capable of interpreting data and adjusting. They need new hires for it and more swift changes to see how it effects games.

Their 200 IQ ADVANCED BALANCING STRATEGY IS probably just nerfing weapons most people complain about here LOL

BTW I put too much energy into trying to give valid suggestions here and by what I seen so far no future for the game, it will probably be shut down eventually, what is the point and where is the fun when you can play only 5 weapons without sweat, seems better to stop playing 🤣

[mortal notch]

@sonic spoke
Emote canceling was removed at the end of s3
Superdash is a Intentional feature and is not an exploit without it sword would be useless
Please know what your talking about before you talk

[misty jasper]

If you’re going to advocate for model nerfs, at least get the dmg numbers correct.

Model does NOT do 140 dmg. “1/3 more dmg than the RPG” is just completely wrong. Model does 128 per shot if you hit full pellets.

[keen lily]

did you never go past low plat? there are literally some ruby players who play sword

[ionic grail]

I am currently sat in Ruby.

There are some Ruby players who have only one tricked sword.

They’re the exception not the rule.

[sonic arrow]

The 93R needs a fire rate and clip size buff. The weapon is super satisfying to play as a light, but the fact that it does barely any dps compared to other full auto/burst weapons makes it extremely underpowered on the light class, Which, after all, is the class that is the most damage oriented in the game.

[vale stream]

I think only a damage buff would be ok

[oak kernel]

Why did glitch mines get hit with the 1 mine nerf btw? It makes literally no sense

[sharp snow]

Fire rate buff could set it apart from v9s more as well

[ivory ermine]

Heal beam doesn't deserve the nerf. You cant even heal a heavy to max health and embark keeps nerfing something which wasn't even a problem in the first place. If the guy healing your enemy chose to shoot at you, you'd end up dying faster and probably not even scratch the enemy. Its not viable as a counter dps rn cause of its overheat and heal rate and not as an aftercare either if your team has heavies. One full overheat beam will barely bring a heavy to full health let alone heal the other person. Either make it a close range beam with better heal rate and lesser overheat or increase the range and add a passive where you can vent overheat by pressing r while having the heal beam equipped allowing users to atleast provide aftercare when not in combat. Lights complaining about three healbeams in a team keep ranting as if three guardian turrets in a room aren't going to shred them before they even touch contestants.

[wraith orchid]

yes damage buff woukd be right

[civic walrus]

the heal beam nerf should be reverted, the problem with heal beam has always been teams running 2 heal beams on 1 heavy

[tender stone]

**R.357

Increase Damage Drop off Min Range from 23m --> 28m
Decrease Tactical Reload Time 2.20 --> 2.10 or 2.15
**

[ivory dagger]

revert sword nerfs ASAP

[hardy gorge]

To those who want nerf the model :
Baby don't cry, I hope you got your head up
Even when the road is hard, never give up 😂

[sharp bolt]

Here we go LOL

[rigid crown]

Bring back old Sniper bullet velocity 🥲

[zealous walrus]

I think adding the ability to sprint while holding right click with dagger would be a great addition. It's risk v rewards is heavily nerfed if I'm walking at my target and it doesnt charge fast enough to backstab on a dime. If you aren't using dash with dagger you just cant use the weapon. I think every weapon should be viable with every specialization.

[daring fossil]

jesus fucking christ Embark, stop fucking nerfing mediums support abilities. You should be leaning into medium being support and fucking nerfing the class around that, not nerfing the support and continuing to let the medium be the best death dealer in the game

[serene ledge]

It would be cool to see a cosmetic given to those who 100% the game's achievements

[untold hazel]

delete stun gun ong

[subtle oak]

Is it a dumb idea to revert the sniper back to where it doesnt have bullet drop? Only weapon in the game that has it and it doesnt feel right in this game

[stoic swan]

can you guys make it so that when you change your hair color it changes your eyebrow color please? or give us the option to change our eyebrow colors?

[fringe schooner]

As long as you can sprint and hold the sledge hammer heavy charge @zealous walrus Hell no, can't hold it or sprint while winding it up. You should try all the classes, it'll give you a better feel for everything

[blissful void]

Bro honestly these nerfs are just ridiculous. I just can’t understand and it’s just getting really frustrating. There is very little fun to be had playing M anymore and it’s an issue.

[glass pawn]

Which one specifically?

[hexed night]

Keep nerfing the game to the ground embark 👏🏼

[ivory dagger]

its not like every M has GLITCH TRAPS so you cant even ENGAGE A FIGHT WITH THE SWORD because you cant DASH - such a braindead nerf - sword is unplayable now in Plat+ Elo. the sword needs BUFFS and not NERFS -.-

[rough storm]

You're correct, i had the previous RPG damage in mind.
That's still 1/4th more than an rpg shot which is ridiculous?

[sterile patrol]

The sword was good before it got buffed.. that buff made that weapon noob friendly I'm glad it's nerfed.

[copper sphinx]

Previous sword range was long enough to dashstab through a glitchmine without being affected. That combined with med only carrying one didn't make it a proper counter in many situations

[misty jasper]

Considering that a double barrel also does more than the RPG, no I don't think that it's THAT ridiculous. Plus, Embark has already expressed that they want the RPG to be a tool for destruction and opening up walls, with options to use to open up a fight. Hence why they nerfed the RPG dmg. Model was not always higher dmg than the RPG, but RPG was abused so much and was ALWAYS picked and got nerfed, putting it below model. So it's not like they intended model to be higher dmg than the RPG in the first place.

[hidden swan]

When will private match screen get options to switch teams & customize other match settings?

[versed cloud]

Sword nerf really isn't a big deal. Good sword players didn't have a problem before this, I doubt it's going to make that much of a difference.

Also good on Embark for starting to address the medium Pike/model/healing beam meta

[round granite]

i think pike + sword nerfs is embark way of promoting mid rang fights while not killing short range and long range . nevertheless , I'm expecting these soon

• Rework matchmaking system
• More weapons + gadgets + abilities ; the game needs to feel fresh not only (looks) fresh , balance is required before introducing new items of course ( many are talking about this above )
• Rework spawning system
• More maps
• New active events ideas to change trendy playstyles

[solar bone]

Now you just need to nerf model again and we are getting somewhere but please increase the range of the revolver and decrease the damage drop off it’s ridiculous

[daring fossil]

Embark: how do we retain players?
Also Embark: lets continue to nerf everything in the most brain dead way and not fix any bugs or make any improvements to weapons that need them.
Embark: perfect! that's what we'll do!

no fixes for gun firing and other audio issues, guess it's dailies only until next week again. Fantastic job guys.🤡 Don't know why I ever expect anything more.

[paper oak]

remove light class , problem solved

[zealous walrus]

can you hold that rn? I dont play heavy so idk if so then yeah sure. anything you can hold you should be able to sprint.

[quick coyote]

Make rematerializer rematerialize the entire dematerialized surface instead of just a super small little and insignificant portion

[queen rapids]

Yeah these nerfs are strange. It honestly seems that these decisions are coming from a lack of perspective/understanding.

You need to talk to the higher ranked players to get a more intelligent approach to changes/balances.

[simple quiver]

How many times are you guys going to nerf? It feels like the game is a constant nerf fest until nothing is fun or good

[delicate marlin]

this. Its really nice to know this game is balanced by looking at numbers and scanning reddit to see what reddit is crying about

[fresh pendant]

Thank you embark for fixing the random hard frame drops on Xbox Series S ❤️

[fringe schooner]

Once again, it's time to split the console and pc matchmaking pool. Turning crossplay off splits the consoles apart now. PC has a wild cqc advantage and it's immensely easier to create a smurf after a ban or to avoid their sbmm

[sand hazel]

they really are testing this fan base to see how far they can push it. the last time we had a rework was the start of S2

[rough storm]

You're altering the meaning behind my arguments and i'm 100% behind what you just said.
I'm not saying the RPG should do more damage broski, I'm saying it's ridiculous a Medium shotgun does more damage than an RPG shot.
99 Damage would fit the Model better so it takes out the agressiveness off it and would make it so that you'll have to think about going in, in stead of just jump padding in without having to be scared another weapon outdamages yours. It would mean only +1 shot to kill L-M-H respectively and it would make it more of a support weapon and higher the skill-ceiling to even it to all other weapons. (that all got nerfed)
Also it would make third partying more sweaty in stead of just dropping in and finishing off teams that just wiped another team to steal their box. Which in turn would make the current Meta less luck-based as everything is about stealing and plugging.

That's why i didn't find the Model problematic in season 2, but since they changed the meta to steal and plug last season, the tripple M including Models just took all skill out of the game.. That's how i experience it and is the conclusion i make when trying to look at it objectively. The only times I die is to a Model coming out of nowhere to 1-hit me cuz i just killed his teammates or finished a team-fight and steal the box or cashout. And the few times i get killed by another weapon i can honestly say i choked or got outplayed.

[keen lily]

if I block the player it specifically means that I DONT WANT TO BE MATCHMADE INTO THE SAME TEAM IN THE VERY NEXT GAME, how hard is this to understand

[strong lake]

Seriously nothing for the 93r? Just GIVE it an optic. That's all. Is that too much? Not even asking for a buff. Just. An. Optic.

[latent niche]

Thank you for fixing team the red team color bug!! that was very frustrating!

[upbeat urchin]

thank you for improving performance on series S

[elfin oasis]

Nooooooooo closed THE FINALS in LATAM Again

[brittle obsidian]

the 93r is actually intentionally bad for players that crave additional challenge while playing the worst class in the game

[prime phoenix]

Guys hear me out I think the new heavy weapon should be the executioner (bo2 shotgun pistol) and you should be able to move a tiny tiny bit quicker with it.

[rigid shale]

thankful the riot shield no longer stays on fire 🔥

[slender oasis]

Mesh Shield shoukd slightly repel players. At least of other teams. Make it so it is distinguished from dome shield and with the HP it has atm it wouldn't be OP but it'd make drawing aggro a lot easier as being able to repel people is a good instigator.

[daring fossil]

doing that would imply that Embark knows what they are doing, when they in-fact do not, clearly.

Really thought this game was going to be my next counter-strike (grew up playing that game 10s of thousands of hours spent) and now im just waiting for the next game to put my time into because this one isn't worth it anymore. Embark continues to make the most brain dead decisions, takes half a year to fix glaring issues, zero attempts made to fix the trash netcode (90% of the problems with the game stem from this), doesn't ever buff anything but just continues to nerf everything, and the fun along with it. 1400 hours since launch, 1700 hours since alpha and I just can't anymore. I really hope Mecha Break comes out soon because I need something else to play now.

Used to have a lot faith in this dev team back in alpha and beta, it was obviously misplaced. I love the idea of this game, but Embark is more concerned with selling skins and making the game generic shooter #8598 than fixing and improving the game that was actually fun to play at one point. I've been saying this literally since season 1, but I have no patience for this teams incompetence anymore. After I complete the battle pass (2 levels away) and the halloween event, I think im done at least until next season. I've never been closer to uninstalling this game as I am right now.

Stop buying skins, stop rewarding terrible devs, maybe they will eventually get the hint, but I seriously doubt it based on track record alone.

[misty jasper]

I don't the model is all that oppressive. And I think there are proper tradeoffs for the models damage including its ammo count, slow fire rate, slow reload speed, and lowered range. RPG should be lower than the dmg from the model bc it is a gadget that pretty much doesn't require aim.

Playing AKM against model has become a lot easier for me at least. I have not touched the model all that much since the beginning of S4 anymore and have started to use AKM. Just like I had to adjust to playing against pike and the medium ARs while I was playing model, I had to adjust with using the AKM against model. I'm not going to take those close range fights as often, and if we're in an enclosed space, I'm going to use windows and drag models out to bait them. In all honesty, it really isn't that bad facing model with an AKM or even with sword (which I have also been using).

I feel like ppl who are arguing that model is so good at finishing a 3rd party push are also just frustrated bc model kills are instant in that scenario. The same thing has happened to me and is very much possible with ARs and L and H weapons too, not just model.

IMO, model is only really "good" bc of the constant defib and heal-beam. You can win an encounter while playing against triple M, but once they get revives and heals in, it potentially turns into 3 v 6.

Like you metioned, all other weapons got nerfed (FCAR nerf, AKM ammo count nerf, etc). I strongly support buffs > nerfs, and I think that is a much better and sustainable solution than nerfing everything into a peashooter.

[marble prawn]

did they get rid of i think it was called bullet drop on sniper yet?

[granite vector]

pls make crosshair stay exactly in the center if set to static, why does it keep moving

I'll try it when i get home, if that works tysm

[vivid axle]

settings > interface > in world crosshair
turn it off 😃

[modern marsh]

Ah i see, so that's why heavy is unplayable ? Mesh shield is useless, Lewis is useless, 10s before regen, healing is nerf each patch... Slam is the only strong move the heavy can do actually, and you guys still want to nerf that. What about Kyoto ( a map that should not exist ) Model ( a stupidly strong weapon, stronger in every aspects than KS for... some reasons ) Sword, LH1, Pike... pretty happy that theses things are finally nerf, the heavy can finally be the tank he should be

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296847763056885851/1303779446536536124/togif.gif

[idle oracle]

We want to nerf slam because it is unfair to melees pulling in effort come close, only to insta wiped away. That is not just lights, but other heavies and especially the medium here too.
The heavy has been hit too hard, I agree, but they had stupidly overpowered 'insta wipe moves' that were cheap.

[reef rampart]

I agree, heavy deserves a buff for other things but slam could use a nerf (not a big one tho)

[hexed frigate]

Why nobody is talking about the pyro nade? Is one of the weakest nades of the game, we have 2 frag grenades wich you can wipe a full team and nobody is complaining about that. Put a 2 pyro nades too, or put a lower cooldow to have a new one, like 50% less time

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 72)

[bleak fern]

The only thing unviable is your skill

[limber ingot]

let us pick a map pool we're down to play before queuing for ranked tournaments, it will let you realize that no one likes kyoto

[sage kite]

Why does the bat go through the wings

[stark pilot]

NerFinal !
The best game of world.

[compact plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296847763056885851/1303779446536536124/togif.gif?ex=672cfebb&is=672bad3b&hm=945bd63498bf02260985347d5331d8f1ed5895da75192a1700deb3913ca7717e&

[plain jacinth]

Pike nerf makes perfect sense and triple M heals is cancer, decent patch

[gentle token]

Pike ROF should have been decreased instead of DMG imo but that's just me

[queen rapids]

100%. Shotty still needs nerf, lights are completely irrelevant right now.

[buoyant pebble]

With the new update I can no longer play as light. I play with light because it is unit with which you can really have fun, especially for the movements, but you can not play: the fat man with a rocket ti one shot, the medium man melts you in between with his guns and if you’re lucky you don’t find the guy who uses the grenade launcher. While there you are light who do nothing but die because your weapons do not harm like the Xp54.
The game is too unbalanced for the amount of life and more life increases
The more damage to your body doing so is all unbalanced.
And not to mention the mega nerf that they did to the sword, literally you do not take anyone, you pass through it but no harm, and when you make the animation of the lunging seems to use the handbrake to stop.
In my opinion they should decrease the damage of fat and increase that of light so that in a match there can be challenge and not only death for the light, the mediums are fairly balanced.

#fixs bugs # better balance this game

[low epoch]

SWORD IS RIDICULOUSLY OVERPOWERED!!!!! WIPING A ENITRE SQUAD IN 2 DASHES.......ITS A FUCKING JOKE

[thorn kelp]

Shoot your gun bozo

[hazy shore]

game is still just MMH or HH M every game.. great patch

[daring fossil]

audio is fucking broken right now, I had a light JUMP down behind me, take 5 steps, stab me in the back, and then stab me again before I could even react to it. the only sound I heard in the entire encounter was the metallic shink sound the sword makes when it stabs AFTER I was already stabbed. No thump from him landing, no foot steps and no dash sound. On top of that the net code doesn't allow for human reaction time because the delay on everything is greater than 200ms (which is a fast reaction time most people don't have).

@brittle obsidian yup, support class is best damage dealer, and they keep nerfing its support tools.

@deft whale yeah, because the game is full of bugs since beta that the devs don't know how to fix.

[brittle obsidian]

when the support character is better at ratting and dps then the character designed for it.

i don't even care about a well measured nerf for the model, actually just nuke it from orbit i just dont want to see it anymore

[hazy roost]

It’s OP if you know how to use it, it’s not like other weapons or launches things that just press a button to exterminate half the team

[deft whale]

Anybody know why sometimes gun glitches while reloading and I cannot aim or shoot?

[hollow breach]

Hello Embark, please do something against quitters in SoloQ ranked. There's no way this can be abused because you are SoloQ'ing. I think it's ridicuouls I lose points and FORCED to play a really long match that I don't even get to win. Ranked is about winning matches so stop forcing us to play with one less player. I'm surprised this is not a thing yet. You guys have a long way to go in many aspects and this is one of them 💤

[delicate basin]

I think the problem with light in comp is respawn tokens. A major part of lights role: Flanking, is Just not viable with respawn tokens since reviving is often not possible if you flank and die.

[rigid shale]

matchmaking? (both left before overtime started)

[signal basin]

• Nerf model damage. Too strong. STILL OP AFTER YOUR "NERF"
• Add an indicator fro the grenade frag !
• Nerf a bit Deagle. Damage or the range.
• Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower RPM and less bullets. Just useless now. STILL USELESS AFTER YOUR "BUFF"
• Reverse mesh shield nerf
• Nerf Charge'N'Slam. Too much damage.
• Give back the rpm on the V9S but let the damage.
• Buff Light in some way they can survive more longer instead of dying in a frame or buff their DPS.
• Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown by 1 sec or add charge.
• If Hook do damage, Stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
• Reduce the gap between HP class. You can't balance properly a game with so much gap between HP class.
• Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charge. Too strong.
• Nerf defib. To strong. It's litteraly the M meta.
• Mates being revive shouldn't tank bullets.
• Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches.
• Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked. I'm done carrying a team and losing points again and again just because of a uncorrect matchmaking you did

More on the game :

• Sound balance is terrible.
• Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked.
• Ban cheaters
• Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers !! Dying behind a wall is not normal !
• Let us choose our sight at the begining of a game
• Let us go in pratice with friends
• Delete low gravity event
• Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
• Random skin list for weapons / gadgets
• Random charm list for weapons/gadgets
• Add a TDM mode
• Add a TDM lobby when your waiting for participants
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad
• Let us invite friends in group even if we are not the leader
• Let us join our friends in group, not only invite them
• Add the possibility to PM in the game
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
• Let us leave a game without penality if we are only 2 or 1 in the squad !
• Some spawn are still at the opposite of the objective.
• Squads can spawn on a cashout when you're running on it and camp you. Meanwhile if you die and use a coin, you spawn more far than the previous squad. Unlogic.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

[formal bear]

Interrupt opponents who are stealing your teams cashout - anybody else is struggiling with this?? i just had 3 seperate cases where cashout was being stolen, i stop them by shooting them or shooting the mines, or interfering somehow, but this is just not progressing...

[misty jasper]

Petition to destroy game feedback channel and change it to a submission type channel. Ppl are spamming the same message over and over and it does nothing except block real feedback. Plus, this way it limits toxic altercations between conflicting viewpoints. And only allow 1 submission per day, so they don't spam the ones who read feedback

[plush sand]

please fix the audio

[rustic tusk]

You have to specifically kill the player while they are stealing, not just stop them. It should be clearer, but it isn't.

[limpid sorrel]

This is an interesting idea that I haven't thought about before. Different number of tokens depending on the class

[night loom]

WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT OF HAVING A CHARACTER BEING ABLE TO BE INVINCIBLE HALF OF THE TIME OR WHENEVER HE WANTS AND THE HAVING 35O HP, TWO SHOTS ME AND HAS GRENADES ??? remove the riot shield

[dull vale]

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[fickle granite]

I imagine this has been mentioned before, but...
The weapon charm "vital sign" is the wrong symbol for medicine, which I presume you were going for. The symbol you chose is the Caduceus staff of Hermes, symbol for commerce; what you wanted was the rod of aclepius, Greek god of medicine. Not a big deal and too late to fix I imagine but throwing it out there.

[red echo]

we playing differnt games

[rapid stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112197032262766702/1302794075153629204/attachment.gif

[somber nymph]

The patch highlights on insta is such a good thing for in game so people on consoles knows what changed and what didn't and i dont have to keep saying "read the patch notes".

[sage kite]

looooll actually

[sonic spoke]

every game had large % of hacking and exploiiutgoin ban via hardware.

[thick sorrel]

You are right!

Random Dice Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 5.0.0

~~Pike

• Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM
  Dev Note: We suspect it may still be too effective, so we'll adjust in Season 5 maybe.~~

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... deal with it.
  ** My Note: It's ok to 2-Shot Lights barely CLOSE-Range, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Dual Blades

• Decreased blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

MGL32

• Reworked: Grenades need to bounces 3 times before detonation
  Dev Note: It's so bad, I can't even make fun of it. Anyone?

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Revived Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not annoying enough.

~~Healbeam

• Dogwalking plays the Theme from Ghostbusters
  Dev Note: What is Dead May Never Die~~

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Flash & Hulk
  Dev Note: We thought the lightning-fast sprint activation and damage level of the Hulk Smash expressed this much better!

Spear

• Spinning it plays the Sound Helicopter Helicopter
  Dev Note: This makes you laugh even more.

[coarse plover]

I think in this game u die too fast. How about you increase health bars by 150%? I can't even react as light when im getting oneshot by model hit+melee hit

[verbal bane]

Game Mechanic Idea:

"True Fans"

The ability to upvote and downvote each other in the "Social" menu. Not a "thumbs up or thumbs down" but a +1 or a -1

For example:

I had a particularly excellent set of duels during an entire match with another player, and we both emoted to taunt each other after each kill.

I would like the ability to give a +1 to that player, for their great sportsmanship.

[shy mural]

Embark, for the love of god, please fire your incompetent and biased balancing team. Yet another nerf to mediums and a light pat on the back of the lights. The man/team is cleary biased towards light. You are murdering a beautiful game by artificially trying to make your worst designed class viable.

Revert season 3 and 4 nerfs to mediums and heavies and redesign the light class.

Balancing people, if you read this, please resign or switch to other department. You are terrible at your job and are ruining the game.

[royal mesa]

you guys really hate the heal beam dont you..

[granite vector]

next season they're removing heal beam and giving it to light

[keen lily]

HIDE RANK, the ranked tournament is not "EASY" when all of the teams are targeting you

[latent charm]

Excellent idea!!!! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[teal bear]

Hell yeah love these changes. Good direction

[oak kernel]

Agree

[somber notch]

Nerfed Pike? Nice! Now a Light can one-shot me, but I can't even three-shot him. The person who introduced these changes must have had (-)300 IQ and deserves a raise👍

[silent fog]

No model nerf again. No CnS nerf again. Do you just don't like your players? Or are you too busy doing random buffs like the sword and then having to nerf it again?

[smoky gust]

3v3v3 just brings problems with it at every step of the way

endless 3rd parties
kill stealing
the extreme pressure of being rushed by 2 individual teams
i dont think this can be fixed by any amount of spawn changes

please just let us try out something like 5v5 quick cash

[ashen stirrup]

5v5 quick cash I think would be a lot of fun, I think it would be fairly easy to implement too given it would be very similar in rules to the final round.

[paper oak]

buff the revolver hipfire accuracy please

[ionic pumice]

If possible please bring the robot blade skin back from season 3 😩 🙏

[hybrid obsidian]

Light is too powerful now. we need to nerf heavy to counteract this.

[lyric talon]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[pastel cypress]

Arrowhead mentally to balance

[mortal notch]

Light is the worst it’s been since post 1 shot rpg nerf

[deep summit]

- So many cheaters in ranked its insane, easy anti cheat worst anti cheat by far

- nerf charge n slam

[modern tulip]

I surrender fighting cheaters in asian ranked, I've been reporting them and they keep coming back with new account... All of My friends are leaving this game, I don't care about balancing, cosmetic etc.... I only cares about how good the game would be if they do something for cheaters.... Instead of banning them because Im always said, they keep coming back because they are working together for boosting someone to be a top player. It's a business for a bunch of losers, they got paid $15 a day just for doing everyday... Im uninstalling this game right now, I believe no one cares about this... I'm just trying to be a good person, reporting the bad things that ruined the only game Im playing since the beginning. I'm so sorry embark, but I love you, I love your game, I love the finals. Goodbye all

[terse glacier]

To the devs please fix the games colliders. So often I will go to throw an object or shoot and it will be stopped by an invisible wall. It was so bad at one point I was shooting a heavy that was hiding behind a goo wall, the heavy was mostly exposed and little of him was behind the wall and yet all my shots (and a teammates shots) were hitting the invisible collider of the goo. It is very easy to see if you test with the bow as all the arrows will hover in mid air.

[wheat torrent]

feel the same way. goodbye may you find fun somewhere else

[subtle oak]

Very good update, medium is the most boring class to play anyway, heavy and light is fun and have the most enjoyable weapons to use. Everyone crying about medium can just go play COD, there is an fcar and an AK there too 🙂

[winter vapor]

you guys actually FAILED to fix the audio breaking bug?

All i can hear is an fcar shooting nonstop every 1 of 3 games.

Its fucking terrible.

[pure estuary]

yoooo Embark can u clean this shitty cheater out of this ranked matchmaking .... makes no fun, to melt full RP agains this -.- every 2 game cursed

[cyan pawn]

day 2 of asking embark to completely revert back to season 1, response to response: THAT IS WHY IT WAS GOOD EVERYTHING WAS FUN

[deep sierra]

Almost a year ago for me buddy this game was magical in season 1 people will cry and say stuff was op but yet every thing was op in season 1.

[limber ingot]

nukes + old rpg 🥰

[plush grotto]

Plug meta is so dog

[vague urchin]

Make a pike skin that’s a pike. And my life is yours

[rapid stream]

You’re like bad at the game… get good noob

[warm compass]

wow they nerfed the dome shield and mesh shield again wow embark you are f loser . embark do me a favor remove the mesh shield from the game it’s usless

[sweet seal]

i want stun gun removed pls

[modern ether]

I feel like many sword users dont know what its actually like to fight against sword users, esp in higher ranks, where there is more chaos and smarter players. If I can show a video I would but sword+dash issue is that its very easy to close distance, while dodging fire and do insane damage all in one combo. The only times you can shoot at these players is 0.5 secs after they dash, inbetween dash its impossible to see and shoot at them, legit a blur that before you know it is in front of you and can 280 in two hits. The only counter argument ive heard lights make is "just shoot lol" or "get good" and not any real counter arguments.

[restive crescent]

Add FSR 3 with frame generation, will help people have better fps

[warm basalt]

I want match history with scoreboard and all player cards

[zinc bane]

music selector pls. i need season 1 music back

[verbal sinew]

Instead of spamming same thing, without context, please add the reasons why EAC is a bad solution.
Please also list the other solutions which they could use.
On top of this, list every possible method, which they are already doing as a counter measure, and tell me the effectiveness of these.

[silent fog]

So when are you actually goingt to nerf the model? Nerf CnS? These things have been plaguing your game since S2.
I guess you're too busy giving the sword a buff for no reason because it didn't need it and now you had to nerf it again.
Also revert plug meta.

[deep summit]

You’re a known cheater shuushhh
#🔴┇media-chat message

[blissful smelt]

Riot is hard to use, try it on some Tournament match...
They will bomb you, and by time and time even straight AKM for no reason hit through the shield

[dusty plume]

🙏

[cyan pawn]

day 2 of asking embark to completely revert back to season 1

[quiet gate]

does somebody know a trick to use picture-picture while in match? sometimes its works fine but other times it clicks on the video and it locks my character

[glacial plaza]

skill issue

[pastel cypress]

Please stop nerfing everything. I feel the TTK has gotten a lot longer, and you keep making medium and heavy classes weaker so that lights can last longer. I don't really enjoy using heavy anymore; it feels weak. Even though heavy has the most health, the majority of the weapons hit like a wet paper towel. I can understand wanting to reduce damage to balance the class, but doing so removes the advantage of having more health when you’re doing the least damage.

I love the game, but I feel like the direction it’s headed in isn’t for the better. That said, it’s not my game—I’m not making it, you guys are. I just hope it fits the image you guys want to create.

[sturdy heron]

im ranked plat around 33,000, my brother is ruby, lost a game and he lost 800, i lost 1200... i need someone to explain that to me

[fallen mirage]

They nerfed the heal beam 😭 Trying to res from a distance was part of the fun, especially as a strategic support mechanism whilst on the Powershift platform to team players below 😦 I loved the speed of season 1 for Mediums, fast kills, fast defib, and the ranged heal beam. I love the game but it’s getting slower and lost its original high speed charm. Just my opinion but I would like to see buffs over nerfs any day of the week… I play support so FCAR, defib and now heal beam are all weaker

[rancid pine]

i gotta say these devs really understand what fun is, how else are they this successful in removing it every patch 🥱 lights instant kills everything = better nerf medium 🤡

[signal basin]

Unbalance game for Light class. 1 year to wait for a balance Light class with more DPS. Boring game.

Model one shot Light. 160 dmg
Grenade nearly one shot light. 149 dmg
Mine same. Rpg same. Nothing is balance for Light and they can't even DPS too

I'm starting to think you don"t deserv all the love players give you when I see the poor balance between a useless class, an overpowered once and a invicible one.

[safe nova]

GAME CLOSES ON ME WHEN I WANT TO SEND A MESSEGE TO MY TEAM, CANT NEVER COMUNICATE

[silent fog]

S2>S4. You've somehow gone so far backwards. Worse performance, worse cash out rules, worse meta, worse cheater problem. 104 days of TA and "fixing" Cash Out just to go backwards 😂

[pliant lion]

For crying out loud stop putting me against the top 50 players of the world, I'm not that good and it happens way too often.

Next match I played was again against top 200 players, needless to say I got destroyed, again. Practically EVERY match I played tonight has been against at least two top 200 players.

Is your MMR readjusted from time to time or are you just stuck at the level you once played at? It sure feels like the latter because I seem to only get put up against top 200 players. Maybe it's time to adjust the matchmaker so you don't have to lose 95% of the games you start. It's not fun and I can't really recommend the game to anyone right now, because if I play a match with them they get absolutely destroyed by the sweatlords that can afford to put 60 hours per week into the game. The friends I played the game with left because every match was just us against top 200 players while we were in gold/platinum.

[quick coyote]

I simply don't understand what goes thru the devs at embark hq to add the revolver in the game this gun is literally a fan fiction added for fun, it's not meant to be competitive? U have 6 bullets and u need a really good aim to make those 6 bullets count, even after that embark decided to put damage fall off in this gun like what on earth would go thru ur head to even add that?? Like just give us the wingman or sheriff, and don't get me started on the inaccuracy of this weapon @bitter nexus @wheat fractal

atp just remove this gun from the game or make the revolver like sheriff or wingman from Apex so the players with good aim can be rewarded for it and add 2 more bullets to make it competitive

[cyan pawn]

fin gunplay by: REVERTING BACK TO SEASON ONE

[unreal fossil]

If I get this right, you'd want your sights to be rock steady while crouch spamming/sliding ?

[wary hedge]

reason why gun sways much when you crouch its cuz its a direct counter to crouch spamming which was a gun fight issue

[cold bolt]

zero notes about spawns is wild

[forest bay]

Idk why that after I updated to the new season, I got low fps in each new maps. Also in other old maps, fps is lower than I played before.

[sonic wigeon]

Lol "nice" balance update. 3M, Defib defib defib is still going strong

[tribal spoke]

Dual blades qol fixes and buff please

[velvet moth]

Hey devs, I think you went a little too far with the Pike nerf. My humble opinion. It became frustrating. 4 points less of damage is too much for the weapon to be viable even in casuals.

[hexed frigate]

Defib should be an habilitie, not a gadget

[velvet nexus]

me and my friend who both main sledge on heavy were thinking of a single change that would be a nerf AND a buff to the sledgehammer, adding knockback. two levels for the two attacks

how it would nerf: enemies would be knocked outside of your range when hit so in open spaces, it would be un-rewarding to play

how it would buff: enemies can now be strategically knocked into corners (would work well with walls and goo grenades) to ensure a kill

[finite galleon]

get a new balancing team

[flint fossil]

I gotta say the new holtow insurance set is so cool, the little suns are amazing

[cerulean creek]

anyone else having lag prob in world tour.. or most the game after update?

[cyan pawn]

revert back to season one

[glad ginkgo]

You probably got hit multiple times with charge and slam. Too many nerfs going to turn the game into “The Final Elbow ”

[rancid pine]

looks like a coming medium nerf to me

[silent sable]

Can yall do something about medium meta, why is there full medium lobbies EVERY game

[silent fog]

Another week of just models. another week of charge n slam. There's is no way you actually think people are enjoying this rn

[ripe herald]

Pike nerf is good

[signal basin]

Yo Embark, guess who die to the next frame of this screen ?

Are you gonna do something for your tickrate/netcode or maybe your lag compensation ? Because playing Light it's already a fking pain in the ass but dying in a instant when you shouldn't... **it's a new whole level ! **

EDIT : On the 2nd one, i'm back dashing

[deep summit]

https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/3140

The performance update and improvements was an outright lie, lost -40 fps because of it, and if anything breaks it drops into the 30s

[unreal fossil]

The guns wobble when you move because that's what they do in real life, and they apparently thought this would be a good mechanic to implement in their game, as it gives a more realistic/organic feeling to the way characters handle weapons. Firing on the move requires you to compensate for both the movement-induced sway as well as the recoil of each weapon. It's not punishing 'good aim', it's making 'good aim' more challenging.

[sand hazel]

they have to either be killed while stealing or stunned. the best methods ive found for it are stun gun, breach charge, or C4

[iron acorn]

how about we just nerf everything until the game is just pong. i think thats the best way to balance this game. thx for making sword feel unplayable ❤️

[wide void]

With all due respect, it doesn't sound like you've tried it. The splash is tiny. You can mitigate most of the grenade damage simply by jumping in place. And there are myriad ways to counter it. Take highground, jumppad into the air, APS, run into the CL-40 user, maintain distance, juke right as they shoot (because it's a projectile...), or simply out-TTK it, because again, it has a pathetic TTK compared to every other Medium gun. Just because it has splash doesn't mean it's "braindead" -- there are unique aiming requirements and a good amount of CL-40-unique strategy when using it, but it's all overshadowed by its pathetic damage, dangerous 160 self-damage, and how dodgeable it is. Hence, again, why almost nobody uses it right now.

[glad ginkgo]

🗣THE FINAL ELBOW🎶…. electric guitar 🎸 comes in… 🗣THE FINAL ELBOW🎶… queue the drums 🥁

[quick lichen]

I think we should have a mmr for quick cash and world tour, even if it's hidden from the players. I just think this would make for fairer games and less one sided fights. I don't think that ranked should be the only mode where you can expect even matches. Obviously quick cash and WT would still have wide open grouping allowed, just would try to match based on average skill.

Would it be possible to make it so we can enter the practice range or a skirmish or death match while we wait for matches? Would be perfect for warming up or just having fun while waiting for other players. I know it would be a better reason for streamers and content creators to stay in the game between matches. Oh and with quick cash there should be an option to auto requeue.

Can we get recent players color coded some how? or at least make some more sense? It currently feels like there is no organization to it, aka by order of games played etc. Maybe group and colored by team?

And can we please have louder footsteps? I keep getting snuck up on by all sizes even when I'm on alert.

[grave yarrow]

Can we get a change for oceania. The only way to play the new modifiers for world tour is well, world tour, but in oceania, everyone who queues world tour has to go to asia due to nobody playing it, could there be something done to make tournament cashout happen again in oceania servers?

[silent fog]

You've somehow gone so far backwards. Worse performance, worse cash out rules, worse meta, worse cheater problem. 104 days of TA and "fixing" Cash Out just to go backwards.

[edgy lotus]

i don't like the new "finding match" hud. it's way too small.

[pale perch]

Complaining about the searching hud is crazy 😂 lets get some useful feedback in here

Embark you guys are doing great, trying to balance everything in this game with 3 unique classes while trying to keep it balanced for both casuals and competitive is difficult. Maybe different changes for different modes? Ranked vs quick cash

[molten trail]

Guy just quit the game at this point like I have 😂

[patent trench]

last patch made my fps dip noticeably, 3070ti ryzen 5 5600x

[dusty igloo]

Let the fucking triple medium not be such bullshit

[plain jacinth]

Game is CPU heavy; get an x3d

[pearl trail]

Make Heavy fun to play, as fun as the other classes instead of nerfing heavy, just make it fun.
My friend that used to have fun playing with the sledgehammer and the mesh shield, today told me that he will stop playing heavy because it isn't fun anymore.
Almost everyone is playing medium and light cuz it is more fun.

How to make heavy more fun to play (I will edit this message once I find how to make heavy great again)

Going against a team of 3 mediums is so annoying if they all have defibrillators, i feel that's way to op, maybe if more than one person has the defibrillator the res will be instant and full health but ALL defibrillators in the team go on a cooldown. Or maybe the defibrillator is something you can use once and it refreshes after a teamwipe (the res could be to full health and instant, no sharing cooldown).

[stable spear]

Lost 1000 rs because my teamates didn’t load in and I can’t quit 😐

[velvet badger]

guys am i the only one who can remember the aluminum goo gun and a aluminum hat that i am missing now for some reason? where did my skins go??

[tawny oak]

Do server maintenance. Improve the consistency of the servers, the damage is off still.
Fix the fucking sniper rifle.

[wooden atlas]

I find heavy very fun personally. It’s nice to have almost unlimited ammo and not to have to worry about dying to a stiff breeze. Not to say that heavy doesn’t need a few buffs (make spear and KS-23 useful, rework winch claw, buff mesh shield), but you have plenty of good gear (C&S, goo gun, RPG, mines, motion sensor, barricades) and some solid weapons (M60, Lewis, Deagles, Flamethrower, Sledge). This is just my opinion, but I think heavy is in a fair place right now and can still offer some fun gameplay

[frank holly]

This ^^^
The ttk in this game is too long to have such drastic recoil.

[sour cedar]

You've killed the medgun so bad lmao, it's impossible to play heavy in any public lobbies at all now. Not even my friends who typically heal want to use it because of how limited and finnicky it is. It wasn't enough to nerf it's effectiveness, now you gotta make it unreliable as hell too?

Also the undeserved nerfs to gaining fans using the medgun (just make it so that friendly damage healed doesn't count towards fans????) just means that Bank It is full of rat lights that fight even their own team for credits. Got flame naded by a teammate light, who proceeded to teabag me, grab the 14k coins I was carrying and "win" the game for us. You're really fostering a great and friendly community with these changes guys :)

[sonic spoke]

I have fun with heavy still. Charge, Hammer, barricade, proximity, rpg.
Defib is countered with glitch mine.

[lost talon]

shouldnt have touched the heal beam

[azure spire]

I agree, they've nerfed healing beam so much and for what? Defib is the real issue

[royal surge]

For how fast it will start dealing damage, the activation range on the turret feels a bit much. Especially with the tweaks to heal pushing more players to turret.

[winter verge]

The HOLTOW Sun skins are awesome! Thank you Embark! :)

It would be very cool if the Sun would shrink if you use up your ammuntion. until it is either a white dwarf star or nothing

Also please let us some out more when looking at skins. Some skins don't even fit the screen properly.

[silent fog]

Im getting closer and closer to it tbf...

[placid stream]

Agreed. Nerfs to the Pike to make it more close/medium range too, Pike is absolutely awful at close range, deagles feel more accurate and have a crazy range. Trying to land a close range, hip fire shot on a light with the Pike is going to feel impossible, especially now it’s gone from 3 to 4 shots

[misty wolf]

You know how they could of nerf the healing beam and maybe the defib?

The healing beam healing efficiency could of been reduced the more Medium Healing Beam players are in the party (like reduced the healing efficiency by 5 per second per player up to 3 stack)

Maybe, Defib as a Specialist slot

[abstract harbor]

Just experienced some MAJOR game-breaking lag. Only seemed to effect the PC players in the game, too.

[nocturne shale]

Id say the heal beam as it is now seems just about right and if defib became a specialization i dont know any one that would use it.

[hollow breach]

Embark please give charge and slam a LOUD visual indicator. I think it's insane how this big heavy can run through 50 walls and make no noise basically and delete you from the game

[frank holly]

funny how a little shove from charge does more damage than taking 8 shotgun pellets to the face. lmao

[dull quarry]

nerf model fix performance