👂┇game-feedback

[hot bay]

Fix melee

[wintry trout]

"in any game modes"
typo aside this does not include power shift despite it specifically showing that you're extracting cash by winning
pretty fuckin stupid tbh

[unborn jetty]

you dont earn cash in power shift

[rigid valley]

anyone having issues with finding a match?

[unborn garnet]

Why am I still forced to close game and relaunch to connect to next match? Any fixes or updates on this? This only happens on this game

[glacial sierra]

they added powershift, fucked it up, and haven't touched it since. they dgaf.

[oak tinsel]

As someone who had the Season 1 alien skin from season 1 I do think that skin should have just been a store skin instead of a battle pass skin since it was really good and you chose the most iconic look/color for it without really many possibilities of color swaps.

That being said I think that the last few pages of a battle pass should be exclusive since you reached the final pages (Season 2 and 3 system the last 3 pages).

If you do want to maybe appease those who want to show they earned it or were there when it released add a toggle effect for example on each piece to have a golden glow, trail effect (like disappearing season number), or whatever you think of that would show its an original. The toggle is for if people just wanna use it as is to match friends that bought it later or if they are just using one piece of it for a different outfit and don't want only their gloves glowing.

I do think recolors are totally acceptable like how the boxing outfit came back as a recolor. The alien skin is just tough to recolor, like maybe add a 3rd eye on it keep the shirt and pants colors but swap the shirt and pants for different models. (or just keep it as is in the store and do the "original effect" idea and have that moving forward if you rerelease)

Its a tough situation if you backtrack on any of the current alien stuff which is why maybe setting an expectation moving forward would be good.

Either way I love the game and support whatever you do moving forward as long as the expectation is understood.

[quick coyote]

Are we ever going to nerf the model pike meta embark,

[narrow spade]

Make scoped sense multiplier actually equal your scoped sense multiplier. Rn using the sr-84 your sense will be lower when zoomed in even if your scoped sense multiplier is set to 100%. This is incredibly dumb. I've spent 1k hours in another game learning how to quick scope and ads with high zoom at close ranges, which is meaningless when you don't allow us accurately adjust our settings. When it says 100% multiplier that should be 1x on my zoom. It shouldn't be like .75 or some shit. Please fix.

[upper citrus]

no skins should be exclusive besides ranked skins and honestly i wouldnt even mind those coming back. and i say that as one of ~500 people with the diamond m11

[delicate basin]

I love this game and I love gooing my enemies. Please don't take it away from me

[worn crest]

Ok cool idea, what if we limited the amount of each class in tournament games to two for each team, so we have no more just all medium teams that make the game more frustrating.

[sonic spoke]

Please resolve the light super dash emote exploit.

[bleak coral]

someone in here suggested a currency system like overwatch and im all for it tbh. lets you choose which ranked skin u want

[jagged cedar]

due to recent changes you can now semi-consistently kill dash lights with winch sledge m1 + qm

[quick coyote]

Fix the consistent memory leaks garbage performance on new gen consoles.

[final furnace]

please nerf medium as a whole to mkae light even mildly viable

[formal sphinx]

It would be better if it had a few more options to get over some of the high walls. If you’re a heavy sometimes you can spend up to a minute walking around the base of one of them to get up.

[autumn kettle]

A syringe skin for the defibrillator would be sick 💉

[pearl mica]

can u get space rock skipper during the halloween event? from the UFOS

[rough storm]

Remove Model

[dusky knoll]

We need mermaid cosmetics

[oak tinsel]

how does a running animation work?

[vagrant raptor]

remove the leave game option

[glacial sierra]

if you're going to have such a focus on contracts to level and unlock things and keep people playing...make the fucking contracts work properly and make them sensible.

old mate above pointed out (as others have before) that all the 'any game mode' challenges are horseshit because you haven't included powershift in any of them (or the cash achievement...).

you also keep including this stupid fucking thing, which requires you to play against people who don't immediately stop and shoot back at you or run away when you start shooting them. near-impossible to complete unless you play against absolute morons, get very lucky, or simply queue-snipe with your friends and ruin other people fun by cheesing it.

make the basic QoL stuff work, it's not fucking hard.

[modern pivot]

The vault hitbox in this game is pretty big, and a lot of the time, I find myself jumping over a ledge I wasn't even looking at.

[thorny parcel]

Possibly the dumbest nerf in the history of this game, Embark. At least top 5.
Removing GooLocking blocking enemy shots but still blocking your own is the most smoothbrain decision.

Goo Gun still wrecks every weaker melee weapon except Sword Light while now being completely useless against every gun in the game. So useless that using Goo Gun offensively is basically pointless. Even if you have a gun and use Goo Gun.

If you have a gun and use Goo Gun, the goo on the enemy blocks your own bullets while the enemy can shoot you.

What is worse than all this? The rework does not even fix what was annoying about fighting Goo Gun. You still get stuck all the time in the goo when they goo lock you.. It is now just a useless Stun gun when fighting.
I did not even bother to try cashout steal stopping. I hope that did not get nerfed on Goo Gun too.

Revert the Goo changes. I might actually uninstall the game now.

[frozen tree]

This might be controversial but please buff cloak. I just played a game where multiple times I was cloaked, walked through a room that an enemy was on the other side of, and then the enemy immediately turn directly towards me and started shooting

[pliant glade]

dude if goo doesnt block shots just cause someone barely touches it, or hell even if they get encased by it, it's no longer as viable of a way to save yourself especially against lights or even in general situations at times. who asked for this nerf im so confused

[tall zephyr]

many people play night vision

[delicate basin]

GooHammer was already super duper hard why nerf both WHYYYYYY

[ruby timber]

Nerf pike and model

[quaint forge]

CAN I GET TEAMMATES IN RANK PLS?

[gleaming bobcat]

This happens when you demat a tree in vagas

[bold moth]

For the anniversary event, it would be super cool for the rewards to be based on past event rewards but with a red color scheme
like, the Smoking Guns hat, but rather than adding film grain and a black color scheme to your character, it makes a red & white effect over your character combined with comic book dotted shadows.
or the Steal the Spotlight upper & lower body, but its red & white instead of blue & black
Also, in my opinion, the Anniversary event mode should totally have Nukes act like they did at launch. Whatever the anniversary grants, im sure it's going to be great

[dark niche]

if ur console ye its broken af wish we had console crossplay like S1.

[rough storm]

Remove Model

[fickle latch]

Bring back goo plane

[cold crescent]

Too few fans per match.

[errant hornet]

PLEASE STOP GIVING ME THE CASHOUT STEAL INTURRUPTION CONTRACT!!!

[crystal storm]

please nerf melee stuff in general, it makes cqc fights just so boring. Sledge is the dumbest shit in the game.

[tribal spoke]

That is insane

[simple hull]

goo doesn't break line of sight on objective anymore... no fun

[lament depot]

the flashbangs and model meta and constant triple medium sweeps are really making this game dogshit

[nocturne tendon]

I agree

[red arch]

flashbangs??

[keen abyss]

So you can steal a cashout through goo

[flint fossil]

yes this, I think that a glow effect could be cool. And keeping the last few pages exclusive would be nice i think\

[viscid raft]

can we get a setting to make the red dot/holo in all guns always centered? and can we make it so you can replace the red dot with your own crosshair instead
when fragpunk's beta opened again it spoiled me with those settings and made me realize how much this game needs those settings

[sage sapphire]

Alright my fellow contestants, everyday I've been sending a Halloween wishlist of suggested stuff!
So we got:
Jack-o-lantern frags
Spider and Web for Winch
Necronomicon Defibs
Thiq skeleton or maybe skeleton decal clothes
Witches' Broom for sledge
Demon Eye pyro nade
Transmutation Circle Jump Pads
Planchettes (Ouija board thingies) for throwing knives
Grim Reaper skin + Scythe for sledge
Ritual Dagger for well... Dagger
Mini Witch Cauldrons for gas grenades
Fortune Teller crystal for vanish bomb...
Inspect: you wave your hand around over it and it'll show a statue from one of the enemy teams (even if they're all alive)
Potion Bottle/Alchemical Fire for gas grenade/pyro
Any more spooky ideas?
I beg you Embark, hear us out!

[delicate basin]

Revert goo or I will do something really bad (become a light main)

[tough kiln]

M11 is broken, how do you expect us to take this game seriously with overpowered guns like that?

And by serious I mean play it in any competitive way. Same with the damage on the heavy charge. What a joke

@undone swallow I play plenty of comp. Using that gun is like turning on easy mode. Feels unfair when I use it and it feels bad to fight against. I think it just needs damage falloff at medium range.

[mystic swan]

Maybe like a little pet goblin that can sit on your shoulder

[undone swallow]

if you think m11 is OP then you are not ready for comp

[coral axle]

Bring back STEAL THE SPOTLIGHT EVENT that shit was so balance and fun!! PLEASE EMBARK

[long oxide]

OLD GOO MY BELOVED,
WHY DOES THE SOFTNESS OF YOUR TOUCH BECOME HARD THIS AUTUMN EVNING ,
WHY DO THE BEGINNING OF A NEW SEASON MAKES ME LOSE YOUR TOUCH.
I SHALL COME BACK AGAIN ONCE THE SUMMER RAIN REJUVENATES THE LOVE I ONCE HAD.
im playing drg
next person who messages in this channel with the name josh is gay

[eternal gorge]

This guy above me is geekin'.
Anyway; the Green Gunk set has rendering issues and the skins don't load until you're well into the game sometimes, if at all.
I understand the difficulties with making dynamic models like these but if I'm gonna pay for something I'd hope for it to at least work half of the time.

side note: I think a mini gun for the heavy is a great idea but I feel like it'd work better as a specialization with an overheat mechanic.

[old minnow]

Heavy

1. mini gun
   10 damage
   800 RPM
   300 rounds
   Reload speed 5.8
   25 m before fall off
   ADS time 0.6
   Holster animation time 0.3
   (Cannot fire until ADS. cannot crit. Cannot skip holstering animation)

2. crossbow
   140 damage
   18 RPM
   1 round
   reload speed 2
   40 m before falloff
   Headshot multiplayer 1.5

3.Knuckledusters
70 damage
120 RPM
Secondary
Tactical sprint this would allow the heavy to run at the same speed of medium, but holsters the weapon meaning there’s a slight delay between stopping running and attacking
(Has no lunge)

4.ARTL .50
125 damage
37 RPM
3 rounds
reload speed 3.2
40 m before fall off
Headshot multiplier 1.5
Projectile

Specializations

1.Explosives expert
80 damage
8 rounds
Refill speed 0.8
empty refill speed 6.4
(They are small plastic explosives with glue on the back. Takes two to destroy a wall. Only detonates the ones you look at.
Activate them with a detonator)

2.railgun
100-300 damage
1 second per charge
Refill speed 15
Reload speed 1.5
(create a small breaching hole that allows a heavy to barely fit in. does 50% less damage per person 300-150-75. At base charge goes through two walls, one wall per charge. this is an extremely loud weapon. also this is a rail gun, not a laser. Please don’t make the projectile look like a laser)

3.Cluster mine
239 damage
Refill speed 12
Mine HP 200
Range 3 m
Explosion width 2 m
(a rather large mine that does a wave of damage in four directions. It is a quick projectile wall that you can dodge if you stand in the corner.)

4.berserk
duration 8
Damage 50
RPM 70
Refill speed 20
HP 550
Hit box and player model size increase %28
Increase speed to speed of light player
Jump height increase 15%
(during duration attacking walls, instantly breaks them. When at half HP during the duration increase RPM to 150
Based off of Winston Overwatch Additional HP is shield that dissipates after specialization is over
When enemy is hit knockback 4 m)

5.Combat shield
duration 5
refill speed 18
(While activate summons a invincible shield with cracks in a grid shape. The color is red enemies, and teammates cannot shoot through the red. They can only shoot through the open holes in the grid you can also shoot while this is activated works and looks like mash shield, but width his half)

[clear hemlock]

Yes nerf the last good light gun because you were placed cardboard 4

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[tough kiln]

Oh I'm sorry I thought this was the feedback channel, not the channel to insult people for offering feedback. Assuming I'm a low rank bc I have an opinion you disagree with is also a joke. The gun is too good at too many things. That's my opinion. Try offering something constructive instead of being a moron.

[tough arrow]

In my opinion, the power that they should strive for is pre-nerfed xp-54. I think that the TTKs on most weapons have gotten outrageously low and the keep nerfing down and down and down while (for some ungodly reason) keeping the very obvious overpowered weapons (pike and deagles) powerful. And I think the problem they have is they set an expectation back in season 1 of weekly updates. But they are not actually updating weekly. Just bug fixes and store updates. They need to really be more transparent with the work ethic they are moving forward with because these weekly "update" where I wonder whether there are gonna be weapon changes are so annoying. Bug fixes are not enough to warrant the hype that they give it every week and I feel disappointed every time patch notes role around and the simple changes that should've been implemented 3 weeks ago still aren't here. My opinion

[fleet socket]

Wtf is fan gains, my average for winning a world tour tournament (all 3 rounds) is 245 fans, I need like 70k more fans and if each one gave 245 fans I would need 283.122448979 more matches to become max rank

[thick sorrel]

Interesting, thats actually a good feedback👍🏻

[fading sinew]

I'm glad the model isn't nerfed. It doesn't need one at all.

[unborn garnet]

what is this shit man, fix the damn game already. I've been having atrocious connection issues where I am forced to exit and relaunch game just to connect to next match in WT and ranked. Then just recently, last game as I'm typing this, once again I am forced to exit and relaunch to fucking connect, then i am forced to use a coin, and once i respawn, my damn crosshair is slanted.
buggy ass game worse than sitting on an anthill

[lament depot]

if they dont nerf model or defib in a few updates im going to quit the game for the first time since i started playing in season one because this is legitimately unbearble

[quaint forge]

THANKS FOR GIVING ME FUCKING BRAIN DEAD TEAMMATES IN RANKED THAT GIVE UP WHEN THERES 1 MINUTE LEFT IN THE GAME, IVE BEEN PLAYING FOR HOUS AND ITS BEEN SO IDIOTIC WITH HOW STUPID THIS FUCKING SBMM IS FIX YOUR GAME HOLY FUCK

[silver parcel]

Defib should be reworked into a specialization

[long oxide]

i agree with mini gun, would be cool with sledge

[tough kiln]

I agree. Many people have been saying that since the game launched but for some reason Embark refuses to listen.

[modern ether]

remove the thing where alien beam lifts you up like heavy gaget, its so buggy and i get stuck so many times

[lost talon]

If you leave the game (especially after the window closes for 5v5 games) then you have to join an unfinished game (2 if you did it after the window), that's how it should work, there's no argument against it

[fallen sinew]

Ranked loss forgiveness if you start the game with one teammate missing. Just started as 1 seed without 1 teammate and lost -1200RS

[vale niche]

These suggestions are incredible

[sage sapphire]

Now I just have to pray Embark is willing to listen to us, it's not just me asking

[prisma harbor]

What are you waiting for to make significant nerfs?
the model and the pyke are too strong! we need the meta to change a little! The model has been too strong for 4 months.
The heavy load is too strong so it can do more than 300 damage, it's completely stupid.
I love your game but don't be stupid. make changes

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 60)

[simple abyss]

This and the sledhehammer range made goo skedgheammer players nerfed as shit. If I wanna use guns I'll go warzone

[unborn garnet]

and fix this damn thing too. hasn't been working since s4 drop and it sometimes even disappears

[hexed grove]

Works for me.

[delicate star]

Someone got 2 tapped with sword

[lost talon]

Add the new S4 map into power shift, maybe make a separate testing base where only people who enabled it can test the new stuff out if you're too scared to add even las vegas into the playlist

[errant hornet]

Would be cool if dagger did 100 damage on charge When its not a backstab. And would be cool if you didn't HAVE to hold the charge but could still

[deep slate]

So are these new Halloween themed maps only on World Tour? If so that kinda sucks because I really do not enjoy the tournaments

[celest aurora]

Every kill you get in terminal attack should refill 1 consumable.

[next timber]

Either fix Kyoto or stop pushing it down our throats every other match. It's ridiculous that the map that everyone is complaining about is the one they're putting into the highest rotation

[worn horizon]

Buff the dual blades > make third swings do 100 damage not 65. make third swing get a small dash when crosshair is on enemy. the rightclick block should react faster to cancel the attacks

[granite tiger]

Need more feedback in game about network connectivity. Getting constant rubberbanding, or people who keep warping around the map and you can't touch them. If my network is causing problems, I'd like to freaking know.

[cosmic cloud]

Can you fix ranked match making not completely filling a team? Or at least allow us to quit without penalty or at the very least have our rank score loss adjusted?

[left dew]

When someone steals a cashout, could there be added more time to cashout to finish?

[graceful stag]

is it just me or are the europe servers suddenly swarmed with hackers ? like it was very rarely a thing at the beginning of season 4 but it I've had now several games where u had blatant cheaters that werent even good at the game, like zero awerness of surroundings and stuff but true god like aaim ..... maybe i m tweaking but it seems rough on EU servers right now

[keen abyss]

Yeah i check back in every week hoping next patch is good to see if i should download it again but they keep touching stuff that doesn’t matter like hammer and goo planes

[pliant glade]

playing melee against charging slam is basically wiping all their hp before they press the win button

[final arch]

my game is always on 100% cpu, so i get fps drops all the time, any fixes?

[uneven dagger]

Make sure you’re temps aren’t indicative of some kind of issue and look for any programs in the background or anything that could be using it up

[crystal umbra]

Currently at 5 minute que time.

Will update when I reach 35 minutes.

Brb.

[tribal spoke]

First point, they should just make the dmg 55 dmg flat imo, nice combo with quickmelee to punish any light that gets that close. Second point they should remove the attack queing or seriously decrease how agressive it is and we wouldn't run into that issue. I actually have to pace myself to make sure I have a block ready when needed, which is annoying

[quartz sand]

Can we get the goo ship back? Genuinely creative and wacky things like that are why this game slaps so hard.

[tropic root]

can we at least get something as a homage to the goo ship? like an event, or a charm?

[weary tundra]

I have not seen anyone happy about the goo plane change, and I will die with this hatred towards embarks decision

[unique wasp]

between jump pad and demat, it's often harder to keep a team of mediums out than heavy or light, the classes that are supposed to specialize in mobility and breaching
between their set of rifles and the 1887, they set the pace of combat at any range
between the medigun and defib, they do and always have brought the most team support utility by far.

the 1887 feels noticeably overtuned now that the power level of almost everything in the game has gone down, everyone agrees there. I'm going to go a step further and say that if Medium is going to keep their identity as a class with reliable all-rounder firepower and very strong support abilities, they shouldn't have an insanely cracked mobility/flanking tool like demat.

[grim patrol]

Why would anyone be happy, it wasn't something that was actually tactically useful, it didn't provide an unfair advantage, it was rarely useful just something silly, and when it was useful seeing a heavy pull it off successfully, there was no way to be made at them or the goo plane, it would be a genuine feat of skill and determination.

Edit. Thinking about it actually kind of makes me sad, any time something fun is discovered it's patched out. With more generic same old featured added. I feel like it's only a matter of time till they remove dropping bounce pads on cashouts to move them, because there's no reason you should be getting creative and enjoying weird combos, if you want to move that cashout clearly you should play winchclaw heavy.

[simple parrot]

I think if they added perks it would change up the game. Perks similar to the old Call of Duty games. Perks that I think would be cool to add would include: fast hands/strong arm, flack jacket, pro jammer, cold blooded/ ninja,fast hands, or last stand. They could limit it to one perk just like the equipment

[sullen berry]

HUD opacity slider

HUD opacity slider

HUD opacity slider

HUD opacity slider

Please!

And revert goo changes

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console

[uneven dagger]

spend time with your families and take a break if need be

[woven dock]

add a limited time gamemode in which everyone spawns with random loadouts n play a normal cash out but when they die n respawn they get a new random loadout

[jagged knot]

are they planning to remove the S1 alien set?

[odd cedar]

i really like the way the alien invasion event feels like now. PLEASE keep it because i actually feel like i’m in a game show event with these changes instead of just some text blocking my screen and a couple distant explosions

[crystal umbra]

Currently at 50+ minutes que time

Will update in 30 minutes

Brb

[dim zephyr]

no

[sharp bolt]

Revert the damage to the xp 54 , thanks.

[untold willow]

real, dmg nerf was not needed, you can nerf range if you want to compensate

[polar shell]

THIS GAME IS CURRENTLY SATURATED WITH TRY-HARD CHEATERS WHO TRY TO BUY SKILL, FN LOOSERS

[fickle linden]

I think that restarting the queue may be much better

[dark niche]

Bring back S1 music, and bring back crossplay with PS5 and Xbox Only.

[dawn valve]

If they don't nerf the Pike I'm gonna burn a hospital down I swear to god. So tired of getting in close to what's supposed to be a SNIPER WEAPON only to get obliterated cuz it three taps and seems to magnetize to me when I'm up close. Also fuck the Akimbos

[dusk copper]

Please have an iron sight option for the sniper 🙏🙏🙏🥺🥺

[weary tundra]

Goo plane

[twilit junco]

Goo plane

[waxen grove]

Each season we're running on circles

[fathom sky]

maxwell the cat as a pet pls

[mental hatch]

Game full of cheaters, ranked full of cheaters. Look how much vids on YT like * how to use xim in s4 the finals* *xim the finals highlights *. Embark do smth pls your game is unplayable right now

[finite galleon]

same meta for 4 weeks and counting, nerfed sledge instead of syncing the animation, killed cool creative shit the community built - Goo ships (literally harmless), halloween event is just giving an existing event low grav (should've been a thing since S1), last good LTM was 3 Seasons ago,

where is this so called foundation now? you can't even use summer vacation as an argument, why are the updates extremely lackluster and out of touch?

[thorny ingot]

WT is a mess right now. why I get to face emerald 2500wins no life players? when Im gold ranked..

[simple abyss]

I just used a cashvault to knock someone out and didn't get a kill. Used gravity on moving platform with goo on it. It fell and pushed a contestant out.

[smoky gust]

Please bring back the goo plane

It was unintended, sure
But there are tons of examples from games where stuff like this was kept because its fun and sometimes even became iconic for the game in question
Trimping and rocket jumping in tf2
Rocket riding and the skybridge in fortnite
P-boosting and slam storage in ultrakill

With how much you loved nukes until the complaints, i really thought goo plane would become your next show off feature
Especially since there were virtually no complaints about it

[torpid sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266737129182986342/1298669661000306708/togif.gif

[cloud jungle]

It just feels like someone on the dev team lost to a good Goo Gun player and crybaby nerfed it

[radiant moat]

I have been here since cb2 and reached diamond season 1 (will reach again this season)

aside from the horrible balancing choices, I've been trying to put into words why I have not been having fun with this game, as much as I don't want to admit it

it's control - I have so little of it compared to other games, what's the point of setting up a defence when 2 teams can come through opposite walls?

the devs say that 3rd partying is at the core of the game, but there's nothing that makes you feel that you lost control more over someone stealing your victory just because they showed up

I need to fight my FOMO and stop playing, maybe soon :/

[faint sundial]

I'm all for making the sledge animation and range more recognizable and appropriate, but I have been having hit registration issues since even before the patch. My server connection is great and yet I'm constantly having instances of swinging right through people or having them well within my hitbox and getting no damage on them

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE FIX THE AUDIO CUES SO I CAN HEAR WHEN THE ENEMIES ARE RIGHT UP MY BOOTY AND NOT JUST WHERE MY TEAMMATES ARE TWO FLOORS ABOVE ME

It's completely unreasonable that someone is able to double headshot me while actively caught in my winch claw. The animation shows them as flailing their arms, yet I'm getting mowed down before I can even attack them while they are caught in it???

Please fix the input lag for rpg, and the grenades arent much better. I should be able to click and activate these gadgets while moving without having it blow up in my face a whole second later because I moved behind a wall soon after

[pliant raptor]

Please can we just make World Tour the only ranked cashout mode so we can have unranked or regular cashout

I want to have an actual unranked tournament/cashout experience, not two ranked modes

[onyx crystal]

cashout isnt ranked, you literally lose nothing

[wraith orchid]

sbmm is also in casual so the mode doesnt matter

[autumn sedge]

please make sword not be able to use secondary with quick melee

[thick sorrel]

** Roll the Dice Patch Update 4.5.0**

Dual Blades:

Removed 1 blade from 2 to 1.

MGL32:

Grenade bounces 3 times before detonation

93R:

Sniper Scope added

[jovial root]

yall should make infection modes, like zombies or something

[gilded prism]

raise the sky ceiling so low gravity doesnt feel so sad

[devout quest]

hell no

[jagged knot]

Wtf 😒... Are these guys stupid or what... What's the point of exclusivity then . Why the fuck are they even doing it ... We were there with this game since S1 and it was one of the rewards for it... Next they will start selling the cheats in store too... So that people who are not able to play well could match the skill level of better players .
How the fck does it make sense to them to put this in store.
👆🙃

[onyx crystal]

Nerf charge n slam, I suggest 1 of 2 ways -
Nerfing damage to 50, 80, 130 keeping slam damage same
Or TRIPLE startup time

[modern mango]

pls there be a compensation system for disconnected players during ranked mode

[quick coyote]

please empark people stop ignoring the real problems in the finals please fix matchmaking please fix model meta please fix the sniper problem please do something about the dual guns please do something about the freezing homescreen everytime i finish a game please make random matchmaking fun please fix this broken ass game

[finite galleon]

because fomo sucks. Even though i don't like how the set is priced at nearly triple the price of a premium battlepass, bringing it back is still a positive.

[radiant moat]

no such thing as fomo after the moment has passed, bringing the set back was 100% a financial decision and a big middle finger to early supporters (it will happen again)

[dark niche]

Bring crossplay to xbox and ps5 only, its so unfair matching up with pc players, idk how long we have been asking for this, but hopefully next season?

[manic vapor]

why am i getting "Login failed due to service interruption, please try again later"

[hoary torrent]

I saw it somewhere else↓

[half oracle]

Pls EMBARK, can we get another Skin for the Model 1887 so well animated like the "dough kneader" ?

I rly would buy another.

[torpid sky]

cope

[toxic shadow]

finals players just really want to be psychologically manipulated by monetization schemes

[neat yoke]

finals players just really want to be psychologically manipulated by monetization schemes

[thorny ingot]

I really dont get how WT work. does it even have any kind of sbmm going on? wtf is that.

[dense marlin]

Now real talk embark just a yes or no question is there even chance of hidden deadzone being removed at all and is there a chance that outer deadzone slider is going to be added for controller setting specifically console? Just wanna know so if not that I can just move on and don’t need to keep asking for it

[quick heath]

both teammates leave so i leave and get demoted a whole rank and 30 min suspnd is crazy bs

[bright wraith]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2073850/discussions/0/4691154443773785697/

[scarlet jackal]

Embark, please, buff heavy.

It's so boring to play against MMM in absolutely every game mode. No variety of tactics and loadout. As well as the lack of ability to counter M from H loadout.

The class system is needed to bring variety to the game, but in the current situation I see L and H in 1 game per 10.

Yesterday in soloQ I was glad that in the first round all but one squad had different classes and my team have MHH. But in the second round I got 3 MMM teams with model 1887, healbeams and defib. I just surrender since its no way to counter that.

H is the only class without mobility. But now it has no defence and the bloom on all weapons doesn't give the same sense of contribution as it used to. Instead of nerfing RPGs and shields H could have been given more room for mobility.

[onyx crystal]

so real, much prefer buffing things than nerfing (mostly, looking at you season 1 rpg)

[radiant moat]

game has been nerfed to the ground over the past year, the excitement is more or less gone... ttk is either insanely high (model) or insanely low (anything else)

[sharp briar]

Add a music selector for older tracks PLEASE IM BEGGING

[half oracle]

Thats wrong you just dont know how to play against model then...

[jovial root]

i agree. heavy is just so slow and boring to play lol no wonder why no one plays that class

[lilac coral]

I only keep going back to the finals cause the FPS scene is trash right now

[quick coyote]

and another game of powershift where the enemy team if full of sentrys and grenadelaunchers leveling the map. WTF

[restive crow]

I totally agree, heavy and light need some buffs. Currently, competitive is all about how can someone exploit the broken 3M stack with 3 defibs and 3 model shotgun.
Also, for medium please buff fcar (a gun which actually requires skills to use)

[foggy orbit]

On a topic unrelated to balance, I would love to customize and purchase with VR's, different menu backgrounds, menu music, and more things like that!

[pliant raptor]

Cashout isn't in the game anymore. The only casual modes are quick cash, power shift, terminal attack and bank it.

I just mean the single round cashout or a proper unranked experience because World Tour is still sweaty as fuck and has obtainable rewards. I mean a literal unranked tournament with no rewards or anything. Just a calmer less grindy experience

[barren cedar]

please fix these types of contracts its literally unobtainable for me currently

[onyx crystal]

cashout is in the game in the form of world tour (unranked) and RANKED TOURNAMENT

[restive heron]

why the ranking is so unbalence ?

[neon moat]

Asking once again for customizable HUD zone for accessibility purposes

[jagged knot]

Then by this logic they should bring back all the seasonal rank rewards too because many prayers were not there in S1 or in open beta ... They also feel fomo about not being able to play in S1 .
I feel bad for them because they must be feeling so much fomo .
This fomo logic is so flawed.
Some things should be exclusive.

[finite galleon]

one balance patch is all we ask for it's been 4 weeks

[hexed terrace]

Day 2 asking a nerf for model

[frosty totem]

This Halloween sucks and sucks even more after betraying OG players like that

[thorny ingot]

WT is the worst experience ever for a returning player. regret coming back to the game -.-
why I get emerald players against me and me and my team while we gold level?
seems like every1 is premade "fight for their life" with 2K kills minimum and pre aim/don't miss a single shot

Honestly I'm starting to see why this game is dead in steam

also weapons like sword and medium shotgun broken af. nerf the model asap!!!

taking a break for now. sad to see the game in this state. I miss Season 1.

[undone gyro]

made sh1900 skin pls

[violet elbow]

defib is one of the most balanced gadgets in the game, please dont listen to people asking for it to be nerfed, its one of the few remaining actually interesting teamplay gadgets left

• nerf model
• nerf pike
• buff mesh
• nerf charge
• nerf winch
• buff XP54
• revert v9s
• buff FCAR
• buff grapple
• revert sniper

[half oracle]

Model is just fine, with the remaining weps buffs and nerfs im fine.

[foggy wave]

I mostly agree with u.. but I'd love it if they do it all
Not sure why buff the xp-54 tho
I'd rather the M11 nerf.. 1 damage less maybe.. it kills insanely fast.. combined with invis is just crazy
And why buff the grapple?
The cooldown it's very short.. changing it's mechanics would be great
Apex legends grapple is crazy good.. so much better

[uncut burrow]

I have come to the conclusion that these "harder" challenges (cashout interruption, hit opponents with carriables...) aren't a problem per se, it's the fact that there is not enough challenge diversity, so when you get the same challenge two to three weeks in a row, it becomes a chore.

We need more challenges and a way to prevent challenges from being repeated for each user, surely there is a way to have a pool of 63 different challenges to cover the entire circuit contracts across one season ?

[verbal bane]

I am willing to bet the majority of the players calling for a Model 1887 nerf are M11 dash / cloak / grapple users

[atomic delta]

nah its just too good. and i have been maining the model the past few weeks, its just so strong. also, why didnt you just say M11 users, you literally listed every specialization

[red arch]

i main med and heavy and i also use the model, it needs a nerf

[tame crag]

It also still two shots medium, it is powerful right now. It also has the tightest shotgun spread, if they increased the spread and adjusted the rate of fire down a bit I think it would be in a better position than just straight nerfing its damage

[dark niche]

do you like only play bank it or smth

[smoky gust]

Please revert goo gun
It lead to some of the most fun ive had on heavy before the changes
It would be sad if we actually lost this

[wintry oyster]

Model is fine as is
Period

[autumn sedge]

"Some thing should be exclusive" aren't the ranked / wt rewards guarantee exclusives?

[silent fog]

People who say model is fine are either model crutch or play in bot lobbies where their enemies can't hit a shot anyway

[delicate basin]

Revert goo changes. I like fun in my games thank you

[lavish raft]

Was anyone having like severe lag yesterday ? I checked my ps5 connection. I was LAN. I restarted my router, yet still so laggy

[viral parcel]

known issue on ps5

[coral pivot]

Dont you think that the stun gun effect lasts too long? What's the meaning of it? Are you afraid it is too short for a light to kill another heavy in that a long time?

[echo urchin]

I can’t wait for everything to be nerfed to the point of being boring or useless.

[thorny ingot]

another WT game lost to a cheater 🙂 if it's not emerald 2.5k kills team then it's a silver player lvl 20 beaming people with AK across the map.

wtf is going on? why Embark do nothing about it?

NERF MODEL for FUCK SAKE
I'm a medium main and I hate this OP shit.

[cloud jungle]

Fix Goo for fucks sake

First moving platforms "fix" and now this?

[restive cedar]

nerf model 1887 already

[queen rapids]

Anyone know if they fixed world tour's fps drop?

[violet elbow]

• nerf model (112 damage)
• nerf pike (200 -> 170 rpm)
• buff fcar (range and recoil)
• buff ak (36 bullets)
• buff revolver (reload)
• nerf winch (not passing trough shields)
• nerf charge (80/50 instead of 130/50 damage)
• buff mesh (remove cooldown)
• buff XP (17 damage with its old range damage)
• revert V9S (430 rpm 37 damage)
• revert sniper

[lofty coyote]

mostly happened in kyoto which was not in rotation...in powershift, I get slight lag in Kyoto sometimes. So likely not.

[mortal notch]

i second this. i talked to one of if not the best sledge goo mains and goo gun is nearly useless now. u cant baricade surf you cant trap people properly etc etc

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[sand hazel]

yeah it definitely makes gameplay alot more tedious. the weapons that have remained untouched feel so overpowered in comparison. the constant nerfs are just killing the fun and with the recent bs with the alien skin im starting to think they just want to kill the game at the rate its going

[thorny lynx]

Yo, I agree. I have tried platform, WT.... everything. This is the ONLY contract since beta I have ever had a problem with. Also, weren't you playing with Wet and Diabetes yesterday? @barren cedar

[delicate basin]

Why do you keep silent nerfing goo gun???????

[solid echo]

Alien invasion is cracked about of times is destroyed building and flung me off the map!

[cobalt quiver]

#StopNerfingGoo Spread this hashtag everywhere, goo nerfs are no longer acceptable.

[fast apex]

anyone else have a problem with the pike scope being painfully off center?

[spare mirage]

Day 13 of asking to add an mp7 to the game

[radiant moat]

most of my friends have quit, I said last season that I'm making my final stand with this one, it's not going great

[surreal meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif?ex=671c5e81&is=671b0d01&hm=d0e3d8636375d079949908c789186683b1034063a78acf66493c827db66ca224&
who the fuck is making these gifs lol

[unique cedar]

u can throw gas grenade and kill only 1 and quest will be done

[granite vector]

i would shoot with pike and it would shoot a bullet on the top left of the scope never actually the center, may or may not happen depending on how the lobby feels at that point in time

[delicate basin]

Fix your goo Embark! I might have to start using my own goo at this point, and I don't think anyone wants that.

[wraith orchid]

i think it could habe a longer countdown

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[hasty oriole]

Revert XP, please. Buff M60. Buff blades. Buff revolver. Revert sniper. Buff 93R. Make defib a specialization/hologram destroyable. bring back two charges of exp mines and c4.

[smoky basin]

Up

[solid echo]

Revolver feels like it’s not rewarding enough when you use it, takes a age to reload and have to make sure you hit 80% of shots not worth using

[sleek blade]

can they get rid of the voices that talk to me in my head

[viral stump]

If anything is to be learned from all this is that games should have many, many beta tests before releasing the game.

[tepid tapir]

why did you change my game name?

[barren cedar]

yea i did

[dense frigate]

Please wake up Embark

[jagged knot]

And so are the seasonal pass rewards , you have to work for it , you have to grind for the rewards and exp and most important you have to be on you have to be there . That's why it should be exclusive...
But according to your logic nothing should be exclusive other than a few things. Which is a hypocritical opinion.

[weak valley]

I understand not wanting goo plane.. but goo should still be able to manipulate the cashout and move it. Removing creative uses for gadgets and specializations is boring.

[cyan torrent]

seems that sword hitbox when falling is broken again, keep getting no regs in the air

[trim shadow]

neerf the fucking model

[quick coyote]

VR version

[mortal notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[violet elbow]

I think charge should get a damage nerf but its range extended, letting you break more walls and chase people slightly farther, 130 instant burst damage is just too strong.

[regal cairn]

BRING BACK GOO SHIPS. it was rare to see in a actually lobby anyways. shouldve given a poll over whether as a community this was going to be changed or just completely ruined. I as the best goo hammer player still say that goo gun should be defended. also theres goo tech yall dont know abt because theres no actual playtesters for each patch.

[upper citrus]

And no more pushing teammates. It’s terrible for teamplay

[mental hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299353615676211270/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[signal basin]

First of all. Read my name.

And then... :

• Nerf model damage. To strong. Can one shot a Light at 20m.
• Nerf grenade frag. 149dmg is too much. You can't one shot 33% of your game. Or add a indicator
• Nerf PIKE. Still to op. There is no penality in hip fire. Broken.
• Nerf Deagle.
• Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower and less bullets. Just useless so.
• Reverse mesh shield nerf
• Nerf Charge'N'Slam. Too much damage.
• Give back the RPM on the V9S but let the damage.
• Buff Light in some way they can survive more longer instead of dying in a frame. Did you ever wonder why PIKE and DEAGLE are a prob but not the new shotgun Light ? Because no one use it because you have to be in CQC and in CQC Light die ! No one wants a Light in ranked and even in silver rank. Do something for the Light to be more META.
• Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown or add charge.
• If Hook do damage, stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
• Reduce the gap between HP class. You can't balance properly a game with so much gap between HP class.
• Nerf flamethrower range or damage.
• Nerf Dash x Sword. You shouldn't be capable of right clic into dash with a Sword

More on the game :

• Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked.
• Ban cheaters-Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO INCREASE TO STOP DYING BEHIND COVER !
• Let us choose our sight at the begining of a game
• Let us go in pratice with friends !
• Delete low gravity event
• Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
• Random skin list for weapons / gadgets
• Random charm list for weapons/gadgets
• Add a TDM mode
• Add a TDM lobby when your waiting for participants
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad
• Let us join our friends in group, not only invite them
• Add the possibility to PM in the game
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

BALANCE YOUR GAME FOR LETTING LIGHT HAVING FUN FFS

[lone thicket]

holy yap

anyways, revert goo/hammer

[frank ruin]

Need to find cross play off matches in ranked. Playing on console against PC is unfair.

[hasty oriole]

THIS

[brisk tangle]

On the defib, no.

Make it so if a Medium who has a defib gets revived with defib their defib goes on cooldown.

[remote verge]

v9s has same ttk and mag damae as before im pretty sure just dont have to spam click as fast anymore so i dont see why a revert is needed. @round hornet ttk is still really quick regardless especially compared to other light weapons like throwing knives or burst pistol, nerf m11 and buff the worse ones and all the weapons become useable

[round hornet]

The time to kill was increased on both mediums and heavies. It was an objective nerf to solve a problem that did not exist.

[marsh elm]

Nerf m11 melting everything and zero skill gun

[silent fog]

Actually braindead the model isn't nerfed yet.

[mental gate]

Lmao, been reading the feedbacks for like 10 min now, and I've never read such horrible takes. Almost as if when people lose at a tournament or something, they come here to vent

[elder folio]

Why is everyone saying nerf m11? It's never been a problem, it's fine. No one's ever complained, but now that the rest of the light guns essentially don't exist anymore, I guess m11 is all that the people who can't track have left to complain about?

[jagged knot]

No

[echo urchin]

All battle passes should be available to purchase and complete whenever players want.

[crystal storm]

this new event shit is just cancer. I do like me some destruction, but not at the cost of the server and entire maps falling apart. Destruction has been really shit in S4 in general. Also really bad look that you guys didnt make the halloween items unluckable through gameplay like you have before.

PS. melee is dumbing the game down real bad, nerf this garbage. People want to shoot in their shooter game.

[pastel cypress]

I'm not enjoying model 1887 meta rn

[viral stump]

omg people want what they paid for who would of guessed? its not like it says exclusive on the BP or anything 🧐 sounds like everyone who wasn't there just wants a participation trophy. No. You weren't there and you didn't get it. Exclusive should mean exclusive. Words should hold meaning, you might think its trivial but you start giving companies of any kind some sort of leway with how they advertise things and they will just end up saying/doing what ever they want and give a big fuck you to the customer. It happened in Apex and people were pissed... turns out when you lie to people they tend to get annoyed.

[lost talon]

only people getting pissy about this are the bandwagoning zoomers who came in after the games awards trailer who are used to """investing"" in video games, no open/closed beta people care about this cause they actually like the game

[slender pine]

Please fix the barrel rotation on the data reshaper 😦

[deep summit]

nerf model
nerf db (why would you buff reload speed on a weapon that can 2 shot a heavy? <- braindead game design)

[red arch]

only reason i think it sucks is because of how reusing old assets seems kinda low effort, coulda recoloured like they did with tons of other cosmetics

still a bunch of desync with demat walls and invis walls, it’s quite weird

[spark shard]

Day 19/100

Change matchmaking for solo players.

I'm pleased with all the changes this season, thank you!

However, the matchmaking has been broken since Season 2. In Season 3, I hardly played ranked because it was TA, which I detest. I thought you were improving matchmaking for Season 4, but the issue continues.

My matchups make no sense, neither in rank nor in dedication, which is clear when I compare my kills and revives with my teammates. Meanwhile, the other teams have players who should be matched with me, but I'm facing them instead.

I’m speaking as a solo player. When can we expect improvements in matchmaking for solo players? It's frustrating we've been stuck like this since Season 2.

Note 1: I've had teammates say in chat they were playing ranked for "fun," as if it’s quick play. This is a bad joke.

Note 2: I don’t mind waiting longer to find a game if it improves the experience. I’d prefer waiting more than 2 minutes than 10 seconds for a team with zero skill.

Note 3: Don’t use the excuse of not changing matchmaking mid-season when you make buffs and nerfs to weapons, gadgets, etc. These also affect gameplay during the season. You’ve had enough time to address it.

Use other game modes for balancing or new weapons testing.

After 4 seasons, it’s clear you don’t fully understand the impact of the changes you make regarding buffs, nerfs, or introducing new items.

Please, before changing anything and making us testers, use non-competitive modes for balancing tests.

Utilize World Tour, Quick Play... for your balancing tests and new items.

[silver pebble]

WTF is happening with scopes? The pike scope is totally disalligned from screen center

[upbeat tree]

Halloween Ghost sheet skin plz

[prime bane]

Buff ks23 accuracy, movement accuracy, and reload speed. Mgl32 nade should explode on barricades and domes, maybe even on impact with players. Buff goo gun heavily, buff spear heavily. Spear users should be able to cancel their alt attack and both tracking and lunge on it should be good. Tiny buff to m60 (1 point dmg increase) Nerf model and pyke damage output. Not a light player, but seen nobody using xp54 recently. Maybe it needs a tiny buff.

[echo urchin]

I can literally count on one hand, the number of times I’ve seen anybody wear any part of that outfit. To be fair, I have seen the emote more often but Jfc, the number of people who are really passionate about maintaining the exclusivity of some pixels is embarrassing. Thanks for proving my meme right though.

The legitimate complaint about them listing that, is that it was a lazy shortcut; even just recoloring it to be gray would still fit with the lore of aliens and not have annoyed all the battle pass dweebs, and also have been something semi original.

The other legitimate complaint, tangently related to it being listed in the shop, is that all of the old battle passes should be available for purchase at anytime. Unless the cosmetic is a reward for an achievement or rank, it should always be available for completion.

[thorn kelp]

Fun fact, you cannot push the cashout station anymore with the goo gun

Apparently you cannot stop steals with the goo gun as well (will have to check this in my free time)

Embark softly guttering goo gun tech even tho the spec is no where near meta and was used for "fun" purposes

[rapid stream]

I hate my chungus ass goo sledge life

[coral turtle]

Please do something to the ranked leaver they are just making us lose the games over and over at least decrease the amount of points i lose when i have an afk in my team its not fair at all and annoying sooooooo fucking much

[delicate basin]

Goo change bad. Me no like. Me angry. Me bonk light

[rose basin]

buff me

[marsh elm]

Nerf model and m11 buff lmgs and ks

[mild veldt]

Embark, please change any contracts that rely on team dependency. Preventing or stopping someone from stealing the cashout fully depends on having a team of genuinely competent people, not bots or 7 year old Timmy.

[silent fog]

Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

[lost talon]

*all people

[sand hazel]

the model 2 shots a light and only seems strong now since everything else has been nerfed to high heaven, they need less nerfs and more buffs and reworks or even adding more gadgets. the out cry against turrents was met with the data reshaper in S2 which was an amazing counter though a shame more people dont use it since it is super useful in most situations once you get the hang of it. all the nerfs as of this season are garbage like the mesh and the sniper as well as the xp it should have gotten a damage fall off not a straight up damage nerf

[mortal notch]

u cant use goo surfing u cant stop people in general they barely get stopped all goo tech is now removed

[granite vector]

it's completely different from how it was before, i thought they'd just slot in the glitch barrel into the rotation but nah it fucked everything up and even cycles between the same 2 barrels very often

[patent wind]

its fixed for me when season 4 released. most ppl is quite the generalization

@vagrant plover gateway is effected by glitch nade im p sure

[tender sail]

Fix the fucking spawns. Sick of having 30s left and respawning 40s away.

[scarlet sedge]

Nah fix the spawn of letting the wiped team spawn near AF to the cashout. You fight for the vault, you wipe them, they spawn near the cashout kill u get the bonus lol

[grave sphinx]

Can embark bring back the beta skins and the ranked skins for purchase? The fomo is real 😦

[autumn warren]

Shouldn’t those be a reward for people who stuck by embark while their game was being tested? I can understand battle pass rewards being sold but the beta stuff is like a thank you from the devs for participating in the beginning of their game

[shy swan]

this gotta be the lazyest halloween update ive ever seen.

[deep summit]

Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

nerf model
nerf db

[regal cairn]

ruined goo gun btw cant even go and stop bullets while someone is inside of it. ruined goo locking and stopping a steal with it. respectfully get your acts together look at your game a lil closer. let the jank stay!! otherwise i want goo ship back

[echo urchin]

What a lazy comment. Full Halloween update comes next week, which has been pointed out numerous times.

————

@autumn warren

If it’s a cosmetic that says “beta tester” or something that signals participation in the event, sure. If it’s just some cool cosmetic, no, it should be earnable in some way.

Some people didn’t know about the beta, it’s not like they had the option to support the game and decided against it.

[marsh elm]

Fix spawns add console pool forced like ow2 apex

[supple dust]

still need a molotov skin for pyro grenade

[silent fog]

it isn't when every time I post this message multiple ppl reply saying they have the same issue. Not just discord as well. You're the first person to say otherwise.

@patent wind yeah no point in talking to you, have a good day

[lime kraken]

Dear Embark Dusty,
Pls add keyboard mouse support to consoles!
Please I beg u !
At least give us an update on it
Plssssss

[zinc fern]

I hope you guys read this because I’ve had two straight games of people just throwing. Sitting in a corner and lighting themself on fire instead of contributing. I reported but here’s the heads up (Ranked games)

[cold lotus]

Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

nerf model
nerf db

[analog hearth]

nerf sword+dash

[upbeat tree]

wtf no

[woeful arch]

Pretty relieved + happy to see the new objective for Power Shift to deal damage to other players while on the platform. Thanks devs, should make a difference in getting people to play objectives more proactively

[patent wind]

alr. most people doesnt really work when the only ppl who come here are here to complain so ofc they have a problem ykw i mean

[mortal notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[shy swan]

did i say it was the only halloween update. no. i said its the lazyest. get embarks pp out ur mouth n stop waisting my cooldown.

[violet elbow]

please make halloween and snowy monaco super rare appearances in ranked and WT in the future, like 1% chance or some shit, these map variations are way too good to only be available for 3 weeks

[dusty totem]

buff model

[keen lily]

WHAT IS THIS JOKE OF A MATCHMAKING. WHY DO I GET NEGATIVE POINTS FOR THIS

[wraith orchid]

buff @dusty totem

[upper citrus]

Please stop listening to the “buff other things instead of nerfing” crowd. It’s such a stupid mindset that almost never works.

Learn from the mistakes of other games that tried doing that and ruined their balancing. Overwatch tried that and has been working on fixing it for 2 years now. Buff and nerf within context of class weaknesses and what’s healthy for the game. “Buff everything” is stupid and people don’t realize how dumb it would be to lower the ttk of this game

[azure tree]

can we get 1 grenade instead of 2? dont understand why we should have two nades that deal 149 damage each

[worn horizon]

You don’t have to use 2 grenades, just throw one in the trash if you don’t like it. Grenades are fine, they do exactly their job and 2 are also fine

[tepid spruce]

the parry prodigy gloves is a glove thats just on your right hand but while using it it removes your watch which is on your other arm.

[deep summit]

Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

use to get 100 fps, 80 fps if something broke before in 3.14, now s4 I get 30fps if something breaks

[gloomy jasper]

PLEASE FIX THE SERVERS THIS IS HORRIBLE TODAY IN EU

[delicate basin]

You've not just broken the goo. You also broke my heart.

[mighty ibex]

Make it so every class can only exist once in 3 player modes. I am sick of getting burned alive by 2 flamethrowers, getting obliterated by hammers with 2 healers and me getting 2 sniper lights on my team in ranked. This can't be what peak tactical performance is, right?

[pine quarry]

Sword and dash is hella Op that needs a nerf

[smoky gust]

Already checked the steal stopping
Gone 🥲

I really hope its reverted

[slender oasis]

I know this is gunna be a fun killer but.... y'all need to fix the spear and winchclaw BS.

To start, there is a tech atm that I've just discovered that people are abusing to make players FLY off into the distance where you hit with the winch claw and immediately start a alt fire with it while jumping to the side, making any object skip the hitbox that stops the object's momentum and instead flings it away into the sunset. Doesn't seem intentional as if you're not using the spear and you jump to the side that hitbox to stop objects isn't dodgeable by jumping.

FURTHERMORE, another bug/glitch is that by triggering any emote will automatically cancel a spear alt fire. Seeming that there isn't any intentional feeling way to cancel mid animation alt firing of the spear (like hitting alt fire again or even a quick melee classically like for sword or TKs) Imma assume this ISN'T intentional.

Personally I've not seen nor experienced this tech but seems like higher level players like to abuse this glitch (no surprise there, they're the first to complain about a nerf then also the first to abuse glitches/exploits) so someone somewhere is probably suffering for it.

Anyways, didn't ask, still don't care, unless ya got more to add about this specific thing critically. Otherwise I aint whining I'm telling devs fix their shit nothing new.

[pale night]

Nah

[uneven dagger]

Yah

[warped stag]

bro watched my video

[brittle obsidian]

balise alt

[rapid stream]

STOP HAVING FUN!!!!!!

[naive owl]

Can we switch the Holtow stage 2 contract: "Eliminate 5 opponents from 30 meters or more using gadgets." to something a little more easier? Been trying real hard the past few days and can't even get one.

[tropic snow]

i wonder if theyre ever actually reading any of this

[twilit sand]

add an option to disable backfill for casual modes. I don't care if i get longer queue times, joining a game with 30 seconds left is annoying asf

[daring fossil]

Can we get the Halloween themed map(s) and events in quick cash? Why this is only in World Tour is absolutely baffling. Even if we don't get the events at least put the halloween decorated maps (assuming there are some, but I don't know because I hate 3v3v3v3 cashout) in quick cash

[thorn kelp]

Found the player who complained about Goo Ship + Goo Gun tech

[smoky sluice]

crazy how people defend those ea moves

[deep summit]

Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

use to get 100 fps, 80 fps if something broke before in 3.14, now s4 I get 30fps if something breaks

[strange wind]

i like the finals

[copper lark]

streamer mode please
nerf model spread
nerf pike dmg/rpm
nerf defib, allow hologram to be glitched/killed
Buff ar range
buff xp 54 back to 18 dmg
rework charge n slam so its more utility/speed, less damage

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[paper oak]

most dog game ever award

[dusty fox]

This game is a 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

[covert pagoda]

i like this game 👍

[mortal notch]

Remove gadgets,guns,mele weapons,specialisations,from medium

[brittle obsidian]

ANOTHER 7 TRILLION NERFS TO THE LIGHT CLASS 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[delicate basin]

Remove jump pad and ziplines since it can give heavy movement

[daring fossil]

same. I used to maintain 165 fps (my cap) on every map at maxed settings, after 3.14 I wasn't even hitting 150 on the main menu, and my FPS in game was 80-110 FPS depending on the map. A couple patches ago they had more "performance optimizations" and it improved FPS by a tiny bit, I hit 165 on the main menu again, but not constantly and fps in game is like 90-120 now.

[thorny lynx]

Out of all the boring, stupid and annoying contracts we have had to deal with, ELIMINATE 5 OPPONENTS FROM 30m WITH GADGETS is the absolute dogwater of the wretched pond of dumb contracts. Change it

[cold lotus]

WE HATE THE PERFORMANCE UPDATE REVERT IT NOW

[rancid cloud]

Please update your Branding Assets and Content Kit on your website!!! There’s no Season 4 assets in there. Would also love to have the “CAN YOU REACH” chant in there without any music.

[neon burrow]

Suggestion: Goo Gun alt fire

Right now pressing alt fire (ads) doesnt do anything whatsoever

I propose it could do something like making a wall of goo or a cluster at the expense of more ammo.

Goo gun itself isnt really competitive, its just a fun thingamabob so perhaps pushing it to do more goo stuff faster and allowing it to have even more instant usability might be a good idea since it will essentially also free up the urge to run goo grenades and well allow faster goo shenanigans like a cocoons of sorts

[twilit geode]

Why am I losing RS from this "WE ARE WAITING FOR OTHER CONTESTANTS" Bug !!

[minor locust]

anyone know what happened to the destruction and goo gun in this game? after the update the goo gun and destruction dont work right. I could chop a building off at the base and use a good gun to the shoot up into it and tip it over, effectively allowing me to move buildings around the arena. Now when i try the buildings explode. Nothing in the patch notes but does anyone know?

[keen lily]

you need a license for construction work good sir

[obsidian sail]

It’s actually BS that PC players are given an unfair advantage over console players with the extra crosshair that Steam provides for its games, allowing them to center their ADS regardless of what the ADS sight is doing, while console players have no tool like that. Just make the bullets go where the sight is pointing. Sheesh. Low-key gaslighting console players about their ability to aim.

[delicate basin]

Counterpoint: Tape on screen

[round hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/good-idea-goodidea-thats-a-good-idea-im-with-that-gif-12943473

[crystal storm]

Heavy:

• Winch hook > remove stun effect on hooked player, so you can shoot/use equipment during the hook
• M60 > make the damage drop-off curve less steep, giving it slightly more range
• Charge and Slam > reduce damage to 80

Medium:

• Defib > Remove i-frames after getting ressed, you should be vunerble insantly after hologram. Make ress hologram glitch-able
• FCAR > 3rd shot of recoil jumps way to hard right, just really annoying/unpleasant pattern to play.
• R.357 > increase damage drop off range
• Model > Increase pellet spread a bit to nerf range

Light:

• Grappling hook > lower cooldown

• LH1 > revert damage to 52 but lower fire rate (would still be a worse PIKE)

• 93R > increase damage and damage drop off range

• DB > lower damage to 146 damage

• Sword > Make the dash attack do less damage over duration of the animation. reduce regular attack damage by 20.

• Explosive mines > Damage reduced from 120 to 80

• Scoreboard should show icons for what each player has equipped, or at minimum what ability and weapon they have

• Add option to offset HUD markers (like objectives and team mates names) to be not ever be in the center of screen

• Remove all aim assist for melee weapons

[uneven matrix]

no

[sharp bolt]

Yee

[patent wind]

ty

@crystal storm i agree with all but
charge and slam is a close range denial thing. its useless unless theyre point blank. doesnt need a nerf.
DB doesnt need a nerf tf? its trash and only works point blank so if for whatever reason you do decrease the damage the spread needs to decrease as well.
Sword idk what the first part means but why would you reduce the damage of the primary fire. it literally is already useless.

also you can turn off melee aim assist in the settings lol

[autumn sedge]

Please remove the hard right on the third bullet of the FCAR. It's just hella annoying.

[iron bough]

They extra triple mega buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. 🤡

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the “interrupt” one unchanged. 🤡

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels 🤡

Embark are you hiring clowns now? 🤡🤡🤡

[zealous schooner]

the defib one is not needed to be honest, if you’re being defibbed you never ever realise the invulnerability because its literally half of a second

i understand on the attacking side of things its annoying because you have to essentially time your shots, but it’d be another free kill and defibs wont be ran anymore if this happens
-coming from a medium main myself with 17K kills and 7K revives

[proud dagger]

Unlock VC

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[worn horizon]

Winch claw could get the stun removed, but in exchange a little longer range. But right now I think winch is fine.

Charge and slam should be nerfed by a lot, maybe not as low as 60 but 80 or so, or maybe give it a little longer run time and make the damage very low, this would make it more of an utility skill, rather than Teamkiller…

Iam not sure maybe iam trippin‘ but holo still blocks bullets right? That should be removed for sure.

lh1 wouldn’t be a worse pike with 52 damage and 2x headshot multiplier, we have seen how much stronger it was with 52. still I think lh1 should be better than pike, simply because it’s on the light class where longer range weapons belong.

93r has actually a very good range compared to most other light guns, surprising high range actually. It should get more ammo and a shorter burst delay, more damage can break the gun and make it op when it hits the 25 mark.

I think the word should have lower and higher damage numbers, depending on the lunge distance. Low damage at the start, high damage at the end and lower damage at the very very end of the lunge.

I don’t know what you are talking about the mines, makes no sense to me. They do 120 damage to Beginn with and not 140.

[lime quail]

You can’t keep a full team anymore to the end of a match! SOO many people quit now. Something really needs to happen with all this cheating. I had three of my teammates delete the game this week. Come on, Embark.

[obsidian delta]

Why doesnt an rpg break a carriable?? Cmon finals buff this shit

[glad trout]

-winch is already bad, fix the winch aim and make it so hooked player and the winch user can attack at the same time.
-good suggestion on the m60
-charge & slam dmg should be lower but not that low. something like 80-90dmg/hit

-defib just should be able to be interrupted w/ a glitch nade or barrel, also the hologram wait should be a bit longer.
-true, fcar has that issue
-not sure about the suggestion on R.357
-good suggestion on the Model

-grapple ois good as it is imo
-LH1 does need a small buff rn
-93r just needs a lil more recoil and thats it
-whats DB?
-sword is good as it is imo

-a little too radical dmg change w/ the mines, would render them useless
-yes the specializations should show but other stuff would be too much HUD
-good suggestion imo
-yes. melee aim assist is bad.

[cold bolt]

casual party mode idea

everyone drops their equipment/spec/weapon on death (or random partial amount of them) and any class can pick them up

[wooden kelp]

Im trying to post a video of a bug i found...not sure how it happened but i cant post things in video content...why?

Thought ill post it here. But i cant post videos here neither

I was playing and for some reason, i could always see one team no matter where they were. Im not sure how it happened and not sure what triggered it but thought ill share so the team can know there's such a bug.

There's also a bug with medium grenade launcher where after a few deaths the game will stop me from shooting. Not sure why, so that could be something to look into as well.

After i die again, im good to shoot again

[obsidian sail]

@delicate basin

Horrible cop-out tryna crutch yourself against less informed players who are being put at a disadvantage using software(Steam)/hardware(tape) without their knowledge? It almost sounds like you are sanctioning cheating or something.

[quick coyote]

please make tbagging forbidden in the finals im getting so sich of noobs managing to kill me 1 time after i kill them 5 times and then they feel the need to tbag its highly disrespectfull and actually makes me angry. people who feel the need to ruin someone elses fun should be penalized and or banned !!!!!

[tawny oriole]

They should change the rank ruby to cheater, the best top 500 cheaters 😂 , some rage cheaters and some just semi rage

[brittle obsidian]

they should be publicly executed by firing squad too

[proven parcel]

embark revoking rs from players cheating and abusing emote cancel?????

[rapid stream]

Remove taunts from the game too… they’re TOO toxic

[rigid shale]

i have never seen so many aimbotters

[hollow badger]

make a emerald v9s for s4

[silk tartan]

guys pls buff SA1216 a little bit. damage gets really low after 6-7 metres , after 10 metres it almost does not damage max 1 damage maybe . and make the bullets a bit closer to each other like model1887's bullets a bit close like this . pls and thank you

[echo urchin]

So you know more is coming but you’re still whining… I think I’m gonna do everyone a favor and keep wasting your cool downs so you have less opportunities to say pointless, stupid shit.

@smoky sluice

As someone who played FIFA for years, lol, eA mOvEs. Ya’ll are insane if you think Embark is anything like EA.

[weary pine]

buff M60 range +5m
remake/make sword charge time longer. Generally very unfun mechanic for low/mid elo players
revert mesh cooldown
make ks-23 hitscan & Faster Reload/double reload
nerf model spread
nerf pike rpm
nerf defib, allow hologram to be glitched/killed

[jovial root]

make infections mode

[royal fractal]

wud be cool to have like a demon tail, lil horns, wings. as skin?
mby also goat/sheep horn

[austere parcel]

Honestly, I was in love with this game but after seeing the season 1 alien skin in the shop I’m over it. Why would you put a skin that was a battle pass exclusive into the shop. People grinded hours for that skin and it was back when the game first came out and now it’s not even worth getting the battle pass if you’ll just release the skins later.

Feel like that’s a big L.

Would love to hear other peoples thoughts.

[proper crescent]

The exclusivity comes in your much reduced price

Ie.- an exclusive price

[fluid spear]

Give KS-23 Heashot Multiplier

[quick coyote]

That's not exclusive that's just on sale

[timber gyro]

one of the most W takes ive seen

[worn horizon]

Who the f actually cares? I have all skins from all BPs and I don’t care, the BP was 10 bucks and the actual alien skin like 1-2 bucks maybe and they give us more coins than the actual BP back. Now ppl need to pay like 10-20x as much in comparison to get what I already got for cheap af.

yes embark said it’s exclusive and in the end it wasn’t, that’s not what they promised but the amount of posts because of that is crazy. I was just disappointed that we didn’t get an actual new skin.

95% of ppl complaining about that don’t even use the alien skin, that’s the best part.

also I think embark learned from this.

also give ks23 wall penetration so it hits enemies behind walls for maybe reduced damage, after 3 shots it breaks anyway

[upper citrus]

“Not worth getting the battlepass if you’ll just release the skins later”

The battlepass is around $10 USD and you get $15 in multibucks from it. That alone makes it worth, on top of getting a return on your investment just for playing, you also get 12 pages of cosmetics. All for $10.

The alien bundle in the shop is $20

I’m glad battlepasses aren’t exclusive, it’s so much better for new players and existing players who might not want to buy an entire battlepass but are worried about missing out. They can just wait. It’s a much healthier environment for players to buy skins in and also makes embark more money. This is a win for everyone

[quick coyote]

for real

[sudden spire]

Why does a sustained damage gun (M11) deal more burst damage than THE burst damage gun (Sniper)?

[brittle obsidian]

Its got one of the lowest TTKs in the game, i'm good with it staying as-is. I'd appreciate some extra UI that tells you how many shots you have in a cycle though.

[brave epoch]

True! It's a crazy good deal compared to buying stuff in separate bundles.

I just feel a bit bad for those who bought it solely because it was marketed as "exclusive".

At the very least they should do it with them moving forward (or something like it)

[sand ether]

So i noticed a weird bug
I throw grenade and it disappears in air second after i die, like game wont registe it
I see 1/2 nades used and after i die it just vanished, like wtf ?

[calm wedge]

There a bug with the m60 when it has reflex sight on. The sight is completely off center sometimes and makes it hard to aim. Also there a performance issue for Xbox series s users atleast where if a major building gets destroyed our games will drop to 1 fps and stay. Happens on Monaco and Kyoto

[paper hare]

remove the crosshair, discover the center of the screen

[gentle mountain]

Me and my 2 friends can not find a tournament or ranked game, we can join solo in 15 seconds and quick cash finds a game but we are on our 3rd 15 min queue on tournament and can not join a game as a 3 man squad.

[austere parcel]

@worn horizon @upper citrus @brave epoch I just hopped on today and saw it. I didn’t know this has already been a talking point. It still ruins the whole point of a battle pass exclusive. I do think if new players start playing, they shouldn’t get the opportunity for missed skins. With all other massive games, If you miss out, tough luck. But I do think all skins are dope regardless

Granted I’m 1 person so I get the money grab. It’s a business and maybe for the future it would be nice to not have them release them later on. That’s the whole point of a battle pass!😂 it’s still a great game with lots of growth opportunities but cmon, I like a rare skin every once in a while 😂🤙🏼

Thanks for all the feedback.

[swift laurel]

can we make it to where you need BP to access WT and ranked please, it will help reduce cheaters a little, anyone against this idea is probably a cheater

[neat yoke]

least stupid green role

[round hornet]

Opinions this bad should warrant a ban.

[hollow badger]

bait used to be beliveable....

[quick coyote]

We need colored sights id like to have blue dot for my m11 or a green or purple y'all can make it purchasable that'd be ok as long as it isnt stuck to a skin, like I can equip the color change to any sight

also
add tracers as well but not tied to skins like you can buy tracer bullets that can be equiped to any gun

[ember delta]

Can WT get some better match making? I’m in silver 4 getting decimated by current emeralds. It’s taking a lot of fun out when my team and I can’t even get near a cash out

[scenic frost]

add a glock with a switch now

[gentle moss]

ie it just me or are the sights off? all my sights are like 2 inches low

[quartz fable]

WT doesn't have any matchmaking at all actually, it's supposed to be the casual tourney mode, while ranked has actual matching with people around your rank if that makes sense

[upper granite]

@ EMBARK I am Silver 3 and I play with a Plat 2. How on earth do I lose more points than my friend?

[remote verge]

contributed less to the team so earnt less mitigating points

[obsidian sail]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-write-that-down-gif-27686706

[worn horizon]

Worldtour should have some kind of matchmaking, don’t put me (lvl 70 emerald 1) with another level 13 and 18 in the same team. Spread them more out. It just feels bad for me, while those other 2 guys don’t even care who they get because are also just learning

[warm cliff]

This game needs a team death match or capture the flag game mode

[hard salmon]

Real life merch, like plushies. The cat, turtle, and then maybe some miniatures of some of the skins

[brave epoch]

Agreed. Sometimes it's so unfair that there is no way it's fun for any team involved. Winning or losing

[formal geyser]

it's like saying "pls embark fix racism 🙏"

[sinful osprey]

2 things, one, a text team chat for Xbox, and MORE MIDROUND EVENTS

[ornate saffron]

fr like Tbagging is like a cultural thing in all gaming its so old and funny its kinda her fault for getting mad at something like that

[scenic frost]

cashbox piggy bank fr

[keen lily]

tbagging ruins your fun? wtf? it makes the game more fun

[mighty kettle]

This has been a thing for years, why would they ban that, and if they did, we would just emote on you

[hexed grove]

Suck it up buttercup. Tbag them back if it bothers you so much.

[manic compass]

Being t-bagged in no way affects your gameplay. If you're upset over it, that means you need to work on your own emotional control. You could make the same argument for emotions or voice chat or literally anything.

@tawny oriole One of the main reasons they delayed ranked rewards was so they could compensate people for cheater rank loss, so it doesn't have that much of an impact in the end in terms of if you get the ruby ranked rewards or not to be fair

[copper elk]

revert sword buff

[wide temple]

season 4 destroyed this game

[frozen tree]

dont just say "season 4 destroyed this game", say why it did and how to fix it. just making a statement isnt gonna fix the game

[quick coyote]

The Model shotgun TTK on lights is too fast.

[mighty ibex]

CL-40 doesn't deserve to deal so much damage without the need to have good aim / fight close range. You should either play melee for no aim or play range with needing aim, but cl-40 doesnt care

[swift laurel]

what? after they get banned a few times they will stop buying bp

[echo urchin]

Bring back smoking guns so i can earn that sweet drip.

[slow scaffold]

I would like not to be penalized leaving if 2 of my teammates leave the game in WT

[quick coyote]

can we make it so it costs multibux™ to enter WT and ranked? (each invidividual match will cost multibucks™, it's not a one-time thing)
This isn't to decrease cheaters btw, I just actively want to ruin this game

[cosmic ether]

bro just teabag them back

[red echo]

wtf lmaoo

[tropic snow]

might aswell add sniper scope to model at this point

[worn horizon]

I bet they were thinking about it

[worn crest]

How about the more technology next to each other, (turret, aps, mines) the less effective they are. So lower turning speed and shots for turret, chance for aps and maybe mines to not trigger. I think it could make sense, and cause less turret spam.

[ember delta]

I get that and I can accept it but I should get some mercy points for performing well against much higher “ranked” players if that makes sense.

[cold bolt]

if you're crying about cl40 in its current state chances are you're like bottom of the curve it's not good like it was start of season at all

[fickle latch]

Bring back goo plane

[rotund thistle]

Why are some easy lobbies the hardest games ive ever played, and some challeneging lobbies some of the easiest? Please fix this but accurately assessing peoples rank, or just remove it. You're randomizing everyones rank with this.

[formal elm]

I don’t like the idea of battle pass skins being accessible outside of the battle pass

[strong mountain]

I'm okay with it I just hate being lied to when they were advertised as exclusive

[graceful lion]

halloween version of monaco has HORRIBLE performance. cant wait for it to be out again.

[round hornet]

The new saucerian pack costs more than the battlepass itself, you still got a huge deal by having it then. It's a win for everyone.

[teal marsh]

-Reduce cl40 self damage if the current damage profile is gonna stay as it is—doesn’t make sense that I can hit myself harder than opponents.
-Reduce the bloom on revolver hipfire because im already struggling to use that gun with the nutty visual recoil, at least let hipfire be more consistent. Pike has a slightly worse cone but double the shots so it ends up less punishing in the end😔

[swift atlas]

Spooky map variants should be available in Quick play as well!

[cosmic zodiac]

Plat 4 & lose more elo for 5th than I gain for 1st

[uneven dagger]

Cl40 is a bit of a joke atm, doesn’t need to be oppressive but surely there’s a balance somewhere for it

[tropic snow]

revert to beta

[hearty bough]

Have you tried riot shield before? You def still have to aim that shit lol

[jagged vector]

Can we get a mode a solo q mode? Like a mode that is just for people who solo q? It’s hard to have good games when you’re going against a stack of players

[quick coyote]

You seem to forget emoting is in the game just get better if you don't die they can't tbag you Ez

[remote verge]

why and how would they even do this

[mighty ibex]

Is that irony of some sorts? You don't need precision to hit 20m+ shots with melee weapons.

[quick lichen]

I must say the localized halloween music in the maps is just chef's kiss

[quick coyote]

they would register any repeated crouches in the timeframe after eliminating an opponent and if you do you instantly get IP banned

[thorn gulch]

i hate headshot contracts ...

[foggy moat]

Tdm needed plz

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[daring fossil]

Embark: It's ok guys, we updated Unreal engine versions and it should perform way better for season 4!
Patch 3.14: say good bye to your frames nerds!
(I lost 30-60 FPS depending on the map)

[pallid night]

I am once again asking for a Dual Blades™ Buff, the deflect is too inconsistent.

[tribal spoke]

I second this motion

[astral thorn]

How is 3 defibs in the same team balanced? Please add shared cooldown for defib, the gadget is ridiculous.

[pulsar bison]

nerf the .50 akimbo

[quartz fable]

yeah, makes sense, but i guess since world tour is linear, the folks with more points just play more yk

[echo urchin]

General

• Triple M is too powerful/useful. The other builds need more value and more counters to triple M.
• Make revive holograms destructible by glitch grenades, rpg, C4, Thermal Bore, and Breach Charge so H and L can counter Defib. M shouldn’t be able to counter it.
• Make it so if you walk through an enemy heal beam, or if the HB touches enemy shields, it short circuits and goes into cooldown.

Heavy

• Revert dome and Mesh shield nerf
• Allow goo gun to trap enemy trophies, enemies you hit center mass or on zip lines. Enemies hit in the air lose momentum.
• Zero damage from Winch, increase range.
• Increase gravity cube duration (and cooldown proportionally) and radius. Decrease horizontal travel speed for enemies so they feel stuck.
• Fix barricade placement on uneven surfaces.
• Significantly reduce KS23 reload time.
• Significantly decrease Lewis recoil and damage.
• Increase M60 damage and drop off modifier, decrease range.
• Significantly increase spear alt radius or replace with a distance closing corckscrew staff slam or the ability to throw it 10-15m

Medium

• Pike: fire rate nerf, significantly decrease hip fire accuracy, revert damage nerf.
• Buff FCAR recoil, Buff damage, nerf firerate.
• Buff Famas range
• Buff AK firerate, nerf range 25m min, 35m max,
• Buff turret radius and engagement time, nerf health.
• Fix Demat: increased depth, revert radius. Allow us to select multiple tiles to open at once. Increase to 4 charges.

Light

• Revert XP Nerf
• Increase radius of vanishing bomb so it’s easier to conceal the whole team.
• Allow lights to stay cloaked while rezing a teammate.
• Increase range of V9S
• Make Glitch Grenades explode on contact with enemy equipment and increase radius.
• Allow hook to grab teammate trophies. Decrease CD. Allow users to stay planted where they latch.
• Buff smoke grenades, increase radius and significantly increase thickness.
• decrease sonar radius, increase number of pings and frequency.

[civic orchid]

nice job embark , is so funny play WT with alien invesion event and have red server signal permanent, who is the dev think this f.... s..... , if you dont optimize the game dont set this trash event and make the player lag

[formal elm]

I know it’s a deal and ultimately I’m okay with it I just feel like I like the exclusivity of it more than the affordability

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[hearty bough]

Sure it’s a different sort of aiming mechanic but it’s really easy to miss melee swings if you aren’t precise with your tracking / close range flick

[mighty ibex]

You don't need to explain that to me. Riot/Shield is literally my discord pronouns in my bio.

[muted jungle]

You take away the goo ship, one of your coolest techs in the game, and ignore the model again for a weird sledgehammer nerf. Embark what the heck are you thinking :( Just balance the weapons instead of working to remove niche tech like this. Literally the most un-fun patch ever. If it weren't for the fun Halloween junk, this patch would literally just feel like a slap in the face. It still kinda does. R.I.P. Goo ship, you did not deserve this. BRING HER BACK YOU MONSTERS

[cosmic ether]

bring back goo ship fr ✊ 😔

[daring fossil]

I normally don't get involved with the spam, but this is one I can get behind. Game isn't unplayable for me since 3.14 but I know it's bad for other people (especially consoles), but the fact I lost 30-60 FPS depending on the map from 3.14s "performance optimizations" is ludicrous.

[burnt fractal]

Can we get a butterfly knife skin for the dagger😩

[orchid abyss]

Events Suggestions for The Finals (World Tour)

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1gc6f5v/events_suggestions_for_the_finals_world_tour/

[versed cloud]

In other words: make sword a sub-par dagger and remove any of its identity in the game despite it already being weak.

If you think it's strong use it in ranked you will be stomped before ever reaching platinum

Bro what game you playing? Are you aware the game is in a pure medium meta right now?

[copper elk]

weak? delusional, also remove quick meele from meele weapons

2. thats why there is at least 2-3 swords in high plat/dia lobbies lol

[deep sierra]

Buff all the weapons but model pike and desert eagle oh and light sword and famas. Theses weapons are too powerful. Or just nerf them I rather see buffs rather than nerfs so everyone can be happy and do well with whatever they want to use. Being forced to be a meta slave is getting old.

[thick sorrel]

good summary, just add defib nerf to the list

[quartz sand]

yall should make the defib a specialization like the healing beam, that way everyone on your team can't have defib+healing and it requires some team coordination to pull off defibs into heals. I think the defib would be pretty balanced this way, either limiting the number of defibs per team or limiting the amount of utility the team has

[astral thorn]

better yet, keep defib a gadget and add shared team cooldown on use. Furthermore, make the hologram killable

[dense ocean]

day 41 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[rough storm]

Delete Model 1887
@sleek dawn ze snappen nix

[clear niche]

Do you even model bro?

[lean tree]

Nerf Model

[sullen berry]

HUD opacity slider

Please!

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[fading cobalt]

I'd prefer we removed all the visual recoil and cosmetic sway, but a nice in-between solution would be allowing us to remove the red dot/chevron on scopes so our static crosshairs from monitors/third party programs aren't overlapping.

[pliant glade]

When are we getting hud options

[midnight bison]

To address the issue of players switching to high-latency servers due to long queue times, here is a proposed solution that includes both primary and secondary server options for a better player experience:

Primary Server (Low Ping Priority)
Players will automatically connect to the lowest-ping server in their region, ensuring optimal gameplay when enough players are available. The goal is to prioritize smooth, low-latency gameplay on active servers.

Secondary Server (Backup Option)
Players can manually select a secondary server in another region. If their primary server’s queue is too long, they’ll be connected to the secondary server to reduce wait times, even if it results in higher latency.

Benefits:
Reduced Latency: Players default to their low-latency primary server for better performance.
Flexibility: The secondary server option ensures faster matchmaking during low activity.
Healthier Servers: Encourages players to stay on local servers when possible, preventing "dead" servers.

Regions like South America are experiencing near-dead servers, with only one registered World Tour match this season and likely zero ranked matches on local servers
The problem stems from players moving to higher-populated, high-latency regions due to long queue times, further exacerbating the lack of local matches.
By implementing a primary and secondary server system, you can maintain healthy populations on local servers when available, while offering players the flexibility to avoid long waits during low activity periods. This would help revive struggling servers and improve the overall competitive experience.

[stone hazel]

im so sick of the model man why is this still not nerfed in any way whatsoever

[glacial plaza]

model can 2 shot so does the sh1900 .....not seeing the issue here

[daring fossil]

the model can 2 shot from 30m away and has a tight spread and doesn't require dead aim. The doubel barrel you have to be within 3 feet (because it's spread is so wide) and hit directly center mass (or it doesn't do even close to full damage), both shots, otherwise you're dead. The model can also fire faster and doesn't have a 3 second reload after 2 shots.

@quick coyote I specifically use the chalk outline sprays on people like that. If they t-bag me once, I focus them and chalk outline for the rest of the match.

[quick coyote]

Are you f stupid? I just said I kill the fuck 5 times and then he gets Lucky once AMD start tbagging. It's disrespectfull PERIOD

[quick coyote]

If it irks you so bad don't die half the lobby's clowning on you for being so sensitive honestly you kinda hurt my feeewings🥺 should you be banned no because your free to express yourself, your shooting people with guns being toxic is the last thing you should worry about. Don't die if you don't die they can't tbag you after you die EZ

[sharp bolt]

you can't see the difference? is this what we're now dealing with?

[grave fox]

I hope the performance regressions brought about in the 3.14 update towards the end of Season 3 can be mitigated in the near future, or perhaps an update could be provided on that situation? Thank you.

[prime bane]

Yea but that's the nature of the game... u gotta get into it just do a lil dance on bro when u kill him the 6th time around

[quick coyote]

nerf light

[signal shard]

the 5 kills with gadgets from 30m + wont track yippee

[dire rapids]

wow

[opaque glade]

Embark I know i've been asking here for the S3 engimo BP reward to be an style set and in addition the S2 CNS career rewards to be a set as well. I think I've made my peace as it's just what it is: earned clothing.
Ideally people want to feel "complete" with a clothing set because I know that's what I want and I know that's what you want too. You won't do that because you're just that, Embark and you are doing your best to make money and a good game.

If anything, please take into good consideration making our own custome outfits. One where we can switch to in a jiffy. You guys make such awesome clothing and I don't want to have to sift through so much just to configure a style. At least let us live up to custom sets.

Thank you, from your biggest lover and hater, CSWSYOLO. 🙂

[solemn light]

@remote verge Yeah but you cant be fighting and wiping whole teams wjth a single thrust. Stopping after colliding is a good way of 1v1. Thurst is basically an extra dash with damage and if you are on kbm flicking ss your thrust its a guaranteed hit for any players nearby. Maybe treat thurst as a dash and have a time wait for using either. The point is, sword cannot be engaging 3 enemies at the same time without a penalty. If you are going to thrust into a full team then you shouldnt be able to thurst, dash and then thrust again. Increase the timer so that thrust = a dash and there is a heavier duration of a dash. If you think this is too much, id say that ths colliding thing mentioned before is perfect as it doesnt let sword overpower teams while keeping the playstyle fun and punishing for players that get stranded

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players

[remote verge]

its still then a death sentance for 1v1s if you hit and stop yourself right next to/in front of a person your face is going to get blasted off by 90% of weapons, maybe just increase the cooldown for the right click for 2 or so seconds and give some endlag to it so you cant dash immediately out. also the penalty for engaging 3 enemies is trying to fight 3 enemies without being beamed. @solemn light is the sword hitting multiple people really a problem? if you try fighting more than one competant person in any less than perfect conditions then theres practically no chance of winning anyways

[obsidian ginkgo]

when we got model 1887 and light sword nerf ? it's unplayable shit. EMBARK please check games, do smth, currently ranked state is awful, new spawn system solve nothin, team spawns right infront of you and if you coverin cashout and 3rd team wiped u spawned on another point.

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[sage sonnet]

bro teabag 5 times as much then lol

[onyx crystal]

awful take

[cold bolt]

add back goo plane

[copper rock]

M11 needs a fat nerf

[woven dagger]

Model also has a ridiculously longer range, more ammo, and tighter spread. Sh1900 is a lot harder to use bc u have to get a lot closer to use it

[delicate basin]

PLS PLS PLS PLS don't turn this into the standard competitive shooter we have seen so many times. Goofiness and chaos is what sets THE FINALS apart from the crowd

[modest lotus]

nerf defib and nerf model 👍

[solemn light]

Or lock the camera so the hit of the sword cannot reach multiple people

[lean tree]

Nerf the model

[rough storm]

Anyone wanna play The Models with me?

[gritty jetty]

Stop begging to nerf every fun medium weapon just because it's viable

[crisp bobcat]

give sniper iron sight option - sniper shotgun bb

[vocal bloom]

can xbox players turn on crossplay??

[iron bough]

If this is real, you are a snowflake that should stop playing online games.

[patent ridge]

The spawn points have been pretty frustrating this season. So many times my team will wipe a team and take the first vault, only for the team we just wiped to have spawned right at the Cashout ready to defend it.

[last osprey]

Please add kbm🙏🙏 last time i played was like a year ago when they had kbm but i quit as soon as they quit it please add it

[fluid raptor]

please ust fking buff xp, the damage it deals now is actually so pathetic

your general lack of balance changes that people have been begging for for weeks now is insane. still no model nerf is straight up criminal and i can't help but feel like you're dropping the ball completely. this game has just stopped being fun after season 2 ended.

black ops watch literally any top player play medium. they're either using model or pike. i seriously question your skill/time spent in the game if you seriously question the op-ness of the model rn

[modest lotus]

viable? dude it was strong pre buff. now its bullshit OP. medium has almost a 70% pickrate and its just boring. it needs neerfing.

[sonic spoke]

Yes

[round hornet]

The funny thing is it was never even buffed. It's been this ridiculous forever.

[gritty jetty]

Send me a clip of you getting a double kill with it

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-the-finals-skill-issue-gif-9109889277599560089

[bold moth]

the House Edge Visor should go under hair like the strike style bandana/conflict cover/let it breathe band, not over

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[vocal bloom]

i swear it wont let me 💀 idk why

[strong frigate]

Add proximity chat between teams in game to allow for an immersive experience and friendly trash talk

[zealous schooner]

well i’d like to introduce your delusional ass to recoil, we can not beam people across the map and it does take work to control thanks

[echo urchin]

lol. Obvious rage bait

[gritty jetty]

🪤

[wheat cipher]

I need a way to rate how nice my teammates are

[lost talon]

Give a separate SSAO/HBAO setting disconnected from "post processing"

[glad trout]

Heavy Weapon Concept: Vickers-Berthier
❓ a ww1 top fed machine gun.
🩸 DMG: 24dmg | Headshots: 36
⬇️ DMG Falloff start: 21m - 0% | Max Falloff: 26m - 55%
🔥 Fire rate: 440 rpm
🎯 Aim accuracy: Good | Hip Fire accuracy: Bad | Recoil: Semi-strong | Horizontal Recoil: Weak
⚙️ Firing mode: Full auto
Mag Size: 30 rounds
⏱️ Empty reload: 3.4s | Partial reload: 4s
⚡ Unique attribute: player moves slightly slower when firing. <--could be a thing but not necessary for balance imo

Thoughts?

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[quick coyote]

Can we please fix the glitch where all your weapon skins and emotes get removed from every character, I redid all of them for like an hour last night just for me to log in right now and all of it be default. FLM🤬

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[pliant glade]

Decently balanced now my guy, anytime i've died to now it's, "ahh man, well that makes sense for the most part" the times it's "oppressive" now feel appropriate.

[surreal meadow]

his entire record is trolling

[trim saffron]

irons for sr84

[rose rock]

anyone getting "failed to join party: outdated game client"
if so, know of a fix?

[cobalt anchor]

i have a great idea guys. lets nerf rpg and dome shield and mesh shield and cl40 and make it to where the only class that viable to play in the game is light because they constantly complain so lets just ruin the entire fucking game. what a genius idea i just had. absolute stupidity. whats next nerfing the charge? what kind of stupidity is this

[clear hemlock]

Mate, is your brain 2 dimensional?

[pliant scroll]

Dearest Embark, can we get an info tab on the contracts? Explaining things like "Powershift cash earned doesn't count for 'cash earned' contracts" or listing the weapons that count as machine guns, handguns, etc. This would help with clarity on some of these contracts.

[gilded sage]

Played a game of new event, couldnt have fun. Triple medium and everything I carry/activate glitches. Every thing I picked up quickly, failed. And some carriables froze invisible in air as I was holding it. Barricades dont deploy right. Very frustrating, couldn't enjoy the game. Will come back for more bug fixes/stability. Hopefull medium meta will be destroyed s5.

[quick coyote]

I would like to see a siphon mechanic
when your team gets a teamwipe, you get something within the following:

Maximum:
Your team gets full health / no regen cooldown
All gadgets and specializations reduce cool down to 0
Downed teams get a revive timer and will auto revive in x amount of second

Minimum:
Your team gets ten health

I would like to see some testing between the minimum and maximum because if you are unlucky and start a cash out a bit later than the previous one, you could get a third or fourth party at one cash out. The ability to hold cashouts when multiple teams show up is holding the game from a more competitive stage imo.

Also, a cool gadget/spec idea could be something that reduces the cooldown of your gadgets

Ps. I am to whom it may concern: I am top 500 this season (in ranked not wt), and if a dev is reading this, feel free to reach out.

[mortal notch]

That’s a bren gun making it a higher dmg lower would change the dynamic and not make it another Lewis since it is a slower firing rifle irl
Eg 200 rpm 60 dmg
20 mag would be 200 dps ( (what the fcar should of been a high dmg low firerate low mag size rifle

[glad trout]

make it semi auto while youre at it
thats literally more than half the fire rate of the actual gun. + there are no 20 round mags for it, but i get what youre saying.
also i dont think you read the whole thing. after 26m the dmg is at best 16

another thing: this is NOT the bren gun. watch the royal armouries' video about this gun. https://youtu.be/IVYFL9d0Bks?si=B1fe6GtsYo9Zx1lw

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[sage sonnet]

maybe lower model damage but give it headshot multiplier so that its range goes down and shots to kill is 2 on light 3 on medium, and 4 on heavy without concentrated headshot hit

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[earnest fossil]

Please hide the K/A/D so people can focus on helping out objectives

[elfin creek]

getting a weird gun model offset issue when swappign weapons with sights, can kinda replicate it kinda not, makes some weapons unusable when it happens, just a heads up yall

[fleet socket]

Could we get a modifier to wt where your health starts regen after a kill? So a heavy wouldn't have to wait 10 seconds to heal and the regen would stop when taking damage

[uneven dagger]

Make model a slug shotty that can headshot

[calm orbit]

I just want to apologize to all of the people I've let down today on QP because Embark has put another bs "get headshots from 35 meters away" challenge and I'm ass with sniper and marksman rifles

Embark please stop doing this. Fights do not take place 35 meters away 99% of the time and I have to leave my team to try and 2 man every fight

[sage sonnet]

teamates running off chasing kills? or are you getting bullied for K/D

[cold bolt]

ngl the ufo event genuinely makes me angry lol please do something else for halloween 😭

[onyx crystal]

i prefer this ufo event over the normal one, more happens

[upbeat grove]

yes hello my feedback is i would just like to be able to play the game, quit the game after literally one hour of queue in gold rank

[nova osprey]

Is cross play on, you like have to have that on to play

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players

[red mural]

Please Embark, remove/rework the taser, it just a infuriating gadget that ruin the fun of the receiver while making the gunfight unsatifying for the user. Its a crutch that just ruins people experiences and discourages skillful play of the user and hinders it to the receiver. Its unbelieavable that the taser still exist is its current form.

[timid pagoda]

maybe,the model 1887,M26 and M1216,its best for controller CQB,I like it

[midnight bison]

To address the issue of players switching to high-latency servers due to long queue times, here is a proposed solution that includes both primary and secondary server options for a better player experience:

Primary Server (Low Ping Priority)
Players will automatically connect to the lowest-ping server in their region, ensuring optimal gameplay when enough players are available. The goal is to prioritize smooth, low-latency gameplay on active servers.

Secondary Server (Backup Option)
Players can manually select a secondary server in another region. If their primary server’s queue is too long, they’ll be connected to the secondary server to reduce wait times, even if it results in higher latency.

Benefits:
Reduced Latency: Players default to their low-latency primary server for better performance.
Flexibility: The secondary server option ensures faster matchmaking during low activity.
Healthier Servers: Encourages players to stay on local servers when possible, preventing "dead" servers.

Regions like South America are experiencing near-dead servers, with only one registered World Tour match this season and likely zero ranked matches on local servers
The problem stems from players moving to higher-populated, high-latency regions due to long queue times, further exacerbating the lack of local matches.
By implementing a primary and secondary server system, you can maintain healthy populations on local servers when available, while offering players the flexibility to avoid long waits during low activity periods. This would help revive struggling servers and improve the overall competitive experience.

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. And also please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[urban swallow]

fax! it should just be a hit headshots challenge and like 60 headshots! i spent the past 5 hours of my life playing sniper light in power shift to get the headshots

[toxic flare]

Man, i cannot believe what embark did to goo. Every aspect of the goo nerf was completely unnecessary. All of the changes were strictly anti-fun. Goo is less fun to use, even less viable, and plenty of other gadget types needed tweaking long before goo such as the defib.

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[wide void]

Can you PLEASE fix this stupid glitch where you throw a grenade and then your second grenade instantly throws when you're just trying to aim it? It just costed me the final round in The Finals. Thanks, programmers.

[upper citrus]

Guns on this list that need a buff:

xp-54 (17 damage 75% fall off)
Fcar (lower rpm, more damage)
AKM (give its ammo back)
V9S (revert)
KS-23 (small destruction AOE to make cashout drops more consistent)

All of these are pretty small buffs besides the XP and FCAR.

Every one of these weapons would be perfectly fine with a very small buff alongside a nerf to the pike and model. These two weapons are ruining the game lmfao

[quick coyote]

Tracers custom colored sights with slight glow around the dot for immersion

[red mural]

helldiver dev behaviour and lightmain(ugh), they changed nothing with the model, they just made every gun worse in comparision. They should make the other guns(AND MEELE WEAPONS, LOOKING AT YOU DUAL BLADES) better and more fun( ITS NOT FUN PLAYING HEAVY AND GETTING HEADSHOTTED BY M11 OR PIKES EVERY GAME OR LIGHT AND DYING TO RANDOM GRENADES OUT OF NOWHERE)

[worn crest]

It’s the akm and pike that need nerfing. At least the model takes skill and actually interesting tactics to use.

[somber snow]

Customiziation of "Select Game Mode" default options. If we play PowerShift more than everything else, we should be able to replace Cash Out, World Tour and/or Ranked

[onyx crystal]

Increase mantle speed, either based on momentum or general. Always feels like an interruption rather than way to move around

[hollow barn]

Stop queue full premade teams for solo players. Its not fun or fair to engage new players. Not all people can play with friends. Premades with premades and solos with solos. Simple.

[dense ivy]

Can we PLEASE, get a Pacific Northwest server. I have 1 gig symmetrical fiber with like 15 ping, I should not be lagging as hard as I do. I watch other people’s clips and everything is so much snappier and more consistent. I lag to the point that the game is nearly unplayable. I get game losing no regs every single day. This is so incredibly frustrating it genuinely might push me away from the game.

Not to mention the fact that movement is server side, meaning even my movement is laggy and I frequently “ghost jump” where I’ll leap off a ledge and see myself moving upwards, only to suddenly find myself falling as if I had only run off the edge

[sage sonnet]

mantling slowing you down is part of making escaping situations a skill. it also rewards holding a position above more because someone mantling up a floor basically loses any gunfight if you are watching them.

[rapid stream]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-stare-jerma-jerma-stare-meme-gif-7356049281502534783

[marble hemlock]

The akm is chambered in 7.62 for goodness' sake, It should get buffed not nerfed

[quick coyote]

RS shouldn't be lost if a teammate disconnects or goes afk, it's stupid to lose a game because someone disconnects and then lose RS for it.

[worn horizon]

Hot take: Remove dematerializer from medium and give it to the light class.

make defibrillator a special and give medium a Med kit or healing station gadget. This way Medium need to rely on destruction from either heavy or light and MMM is automatically not as good anymore, while M is still good to have with defib+healing station or double heal, but no defibrillator.

i know dematerializer is fun to use and a lot of players would be upset, but this is one of the reasons triple medium does not need a heavy or light, because dematerializer makes them independent from another class.

dematerializer was one of the biggest mistakes embark did. in terms of team composition balance, but none really talked about it. Every class should offer something that is very useful for the team and breaching, healing, quick reviving, mobility is all in one class

[lusty mauve]

Suggestion on Balancing Strategy in “The Finals”

Dear The Finals team,

First, I want to express my gratitude and enthusiasm for The Finals! I thoroughly enjoy following and actively playing the game, and I look forward to all the new updates and events. As a side note, I had the idea of offering a Namatama plush toy as a possible accessory in your fan shop – I think it could be a big hit with the community.

As a long-time player of tactical shooters like Rainbow Six Siege and Valorant, I’ve noticed a common approach across multiplayer games that I’d like to share with you. Many games tend to balance by nerfing stronger agents or weapons, which I completely understand, as it’s a common practice. However, I believe an alternative approach could enhance the player experience.

Specifically, rather than weakening stronger elements, perhaps focusing on strengthening weaker ones could be beneficial. For example – the Ghost had a notable presence in the last season, and as far as I can tell, it has since been adjusted. I noticed something similar with the AK-47, which now seems to hold 32 rounds instead of the original 36.

Nerfing these popular elements can make it less appealing for players like me to use our favorite characters or weapons. Instead, it might be more engaging and rewarding if weaker characters and weapons were enhanced, making more options attractive without diminishing players’ favorite setups.

I could imagine that this approach would positively impact the gaming experience and lead to higher long-term player satisfaction. Players would still have access to their trusted favorites but would also be curious to try out newly improved alternatives. This kind of experiment could open up fresh perspectives and potentially set The Finals apart from other shooters.

I hope this suggestion resonates with you, and I truly appreciate your time and attention in considering it. Thank you very much for taking a moment to review this idea.

Best regards,
Tenfy

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. And also please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[brittle obsidian]

please explain to me how model takes skill im genuinely curious as to why people keep saying this when its objectively untrue

[polar grotto]

buff dual blades

[dark niche]

literally all these weapons except for the 93r just take a bit of practice to get good at
also saying fcar and akm are less useable than the pike is crazy
the pike is a glorified sniper with a bit less range???
which is a lot more complicated than basic ars

[rough storm]

Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model Nerf the Model

[lost talon]

Revert everything that happened in the last week from this performance tank to the goo gun break and just come back when you're done with arc raiders, leave it alone . There was absolutely no reason to push this patch out, nothing was added to the game. Nobody was out protesting that fucking goo gun is unfair or I want -50% FPS 1% in the UFO event/general big destruction. Get some Q/A testers from this place if you don't have any.

Just like you have polls after the games for team coordination/balance, add a poll for the quality of the patch and if people are unhappy or happy with it/issues. You will not find a single person who is happy with what happened in the last week.

[marsh crypt]

never thought there could be worse updates than after s2 but this last patch takes the cake for the WORST patch + event...

[sage sonnet]

give us an event that 3 teams and each team is always comprised of players contracted to the same sponsor

[jagged cradle]

Whats up with the bank it queue times?

[long oxide]

5 goo gun nerfs before model

[rugged temple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299579628645519360/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[hot bay]

Fix melee

[frank gull]

"I’m glad battlepasses ($10) aren’t exclusive, it’s so much better for new players and existing players who might not want to buy an entire battlepass but are worried about missing out.
They can just wait.
It’s a much *healthier environment for players to buy skins ($20) in and also makes embark more money. This is a win for everyone"

What player wouldn't want to buy the entire battle pass & opt out for a pack that just devalues the cosmetic...

What about skins from contracts, rewards from twitch, CB & OB rewards?
Even if Embark decided to sell them the main advertisement would be FOMO...

You're arguments have no point when given little thought.

[rough storm]

Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model Nerf model

[fiery wagon]

Yeah, this right here. It's obvious that this is just Embark cashing out on the exclusive skin again.

[brittle obsidian]

Rob said he didn't want to make people sad with nerfs so we'll have to endure boring AF model meta forever sorry

[toxic mural]

I nedd more weapon
Kriss vector
M4
tti 2011 john wick model

[tough kiln]

Just lost a game in the final round because a UFO abducted the cashout and dropped it off the map while the enemy team had it. Fuck this joke of a game. That's my feedback.

[willow wharf]

Remove kyoto its a horrible map

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[languid abyss]

Hi, i really think there should be a game event with ghosts. If you get in darker parts (indoors or in night maps) of the map then it will be likely that you will get haunted. You can see a ghost or a shadow and as long as the ghost sees you, you will get a damage debuff and reduced vision.

[sage sonnet]

World Tour is fun

[quaint forge]

If the ks is a shotgun then why does a dmr do more dmg that it

[modern ether]

REMOVE THE ALIEN EVENT FROM WT OR AT LEAST DONT MAKE WHERE IT MAKES YOU FLOAT CAUSE IT SPAWNS DIRECTLY ON TOP OF YOU

[torpid quarry]

This game has become shotgun simulator

[short dock]

I feel like defibs are still way too meta and their issue is that they are too easy to stack. they've been nerfed before but I don't think they recieved the right kind of nerf. I think the best way to solve the issue would be to to make the cooldown for using the defib shared by the team, so if somebody defibs someone all mediums on the team have to wait for the cooldown. This way they are still good especially for clutch situations but are not an end all be all meta where all mediums are basically required to run it, and you won't have to deal with massive defib chains that require you to kill an entire team potentially several times.(edit: I want to stress this should NOT be a regular type of nerf and I don't want this to be a trend the devs use after discovering it as a balancing technique, because stacking ,like mmm lll or hhh,should be a viable strategy for any build, but in the unique case of the deliberator I think it is the only reasonable option)

[rough storm]

Oh sowwy i missed the memo!
OH WELL, back to maining the model i guess

[worn horizon]

Make defibrillator a gadget and give medium medkit/healing station gadget.

nerf model
Nerf pike

[vale jolt]

it IS a gadget??

[strange ermine]

It's fucking unreal, man. I genuinely can't believe Embark this time. 3M is still everywhere; but nevermind that, THE GOO GUN, THAT SHIT NEEDS TO GO ASAP.

Make it make sense.

[sage sonnet]

goo gun is one of the items that makes the finals a little chaotic and unpredictable, give it the demat treatment and buff it

[mortal notch]

Myb it looks 1-1 to a bren and the stats you suggested would just add another Lewis to the game like adding a m4 to meduim would do the exact same
And. Yeah ofc we don’t need any crazy long range weapons rn if it did higher dmg with lower rpm eg:30-60 they could still tone down the dmg falloff significantly

[rough storm]

no but all jokes aside,
remove that faceroll restarded Model 1887

[round hornet]

The issue with defibs is less about defibs themselves and more to do with medium's kit. It's true defibs are a must pick gadget, but so is jump pad. Both are extremely strong teamplay gadgets and medium just doesn't have anything else that compares, so they lock two slots without challenge. Medium needs more support gadgets on this level to better fit their role and have actual options to weigh against defibs and pad.

The other issue is the weaponry. Back in around mid-season two when everyone was running the akm defib chaining was just free kills if you rushed the mediums. But now the model 1887 is everywhere and the insane cqc power it gives medium makes doing so suicidal(this cqc power is also a problem with heal beam).

So nerf the model's damage + give medium better support gadgets and the defib "problem" will basically completely disappear.

[short dock]

I don't think the problem will disappear though, jump pads are good sure, but almost all of the medium gadgets are good which is its only problem in comparison to other classes. having all the gadgets be good isn't inherently bad but it is bad when it really isn't that way at for heavy and light. The worst gadget arguably for medium is somewhere around explosive mine or datareshaper, both of which really aren't bad but I could not say the same about other classes. Jump pads are again good, but not a must pick like the defib and I don't think we'll ever get a meta where the defib isn't a must pick unless you can regulate the stacking. If anything I think part of the problem is that medium is the designated "support role" but it supports the team in every fasion in the best way. It has the best healing, mobility, traps/sitesetup, ect.. (heavy is kind of better for map destruction ig but that leaves light being best for nothing and destructibility isn't that big of a deal. If anything I think the issue is that a medium is specialized to support the team in too many aspects whereas the heavy and light are only specialized for more specifics. I think a good example of this is how even though lights are superior in mobility, their only team mobility gadget is the worst out of all the mobility gadgets and so the medium ends up more applicable for teamwork. I think its worth keeping in mind that in season 1 one of the only reasons high elo ran light was just to counter shields with glitch and that all the other gadgets they had we're generally irrelevent

[next timber]

When will Oscar and Rob just admit that embark absolutely hates the medium class? It's not fair that I get hit twice before I can turn around or even run by some dbag light player running invis and stun. Invisible NEEDS a nerf similar to the heavy shield where they have a cool down before they can pop back into invisible

[wide temple]

revert to s3 . simple. is it so hard to devs to get? especially v9s also it feels the game has been infested with cheaters more

[hollow thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299579628645519360/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[sage sonnet]

Add the AM180 for heavy or medium (probably heavy)

[mortal notch]

Average stone 9 players opinion
Model
Pike
Defib
Double movement
Nades
Healbeam

[tall zephyr]

eliminate 5 enemies with gadgets from 30 meters is too much rng: in powershift every highground position is less than 30 meters away. the only reliable gadget to get kills with is the rocket launcher. after research playing c4 be a better approach (i never play heavy), but my main problem with this mission is, that it is unnecessary. i asked ppl how they do it and they answered with throwing nades on the platform and praying. thats not really fun. call it skill issue (i only play light and play close distance with 4:3 res), but 30 meters is such a large distance. its like telling me to get 5 kills from A to pit on Dust 2 with nades, which is just luck most of the time.

dm me if you got a way to get this mission, everything else is already done im stuck with this

[next timber]

Seriously, this was my favorite game, literally played every day after work,loved that the devs were responsive and listened to the community........ WERE. Now the game is just a light class circle jerk. You used to be able to play a game with only a few lights, now it's whole teams, nothing but lights running around getting into group fights and destroying everything because they are too strong,if their DPS is going to be THAT high along with the most forgiving weapons in the game then they NEED to be 100 health. 150 is too much health for a class that can deal 386 damage with two hits.

[quick lichen]

foot steps need to be fixed, several times people were able to sneak up with no audio queues that someone was behind me

[unreal fossil]

Have you tried playing Light yourself? I guess not.

[pulsar willow]

light is the most annoying class to play against and yet triple meds are the meta rn because of it's insane amount of support tools

[remote drift]

I think this season has the best ranked system out of all of them so far. It's a little frustrating losing is punished so hard...but I understand why and from a completely objective perspective, it doesn't seem unfair.

[gusty moat]

I don’t understand why the heavy class still exists. The devs just keep nerfing everything in their kit so that it makes the class the least fun to play (and they removed the goo plane for some reason). Then they’ll give lights the most broken weapons and mediums the most broken kit and say the game is in a good state 🙄

[hearty marten]

Its impossible to tell which requests are being given out of interest to helping the game and which requests are just "I got curbstomped by (insert item here) so now I have to go ask that the devs nerf it"

[short dock]

this has never been the meta and still isnt. Hasn't been an issue for anyone and if you're struggling against triple lights you just aren't very good I'm sorry. Also your previous comment about cloaking is crazy because thats the exact nerf they recieved in season 2 and they got it before the shield nerf your reffering to. If the triple light problem is happening on world tour its because world tour is a shit post game mode there's no reason to take it seriously. 100 health is also ridiculus because they would be 1shot by way too many things I think you really need to play light before considering those kinds of changes

[cedar flint]

Why did the finals devs add a season 1 exclusive battle pass skin to the shop that’s just stupid I bought the first battle pass cause the skins would’ve been OG, but if they wanted to resell an alien skin the could atleast have done some changes to it in my opinion, or maybe add a style for the OG skin so that you see the difference between the skins. Please add some changes to the Alien skin and everyone that bought it in the item shop will get an opportunity to refund it if they made changes to the skin :)

[next timber]

Embark doesn't care,they only like full teams of lights 💩 on everyone else to farm kills and clips for X/Facebook etc. Embark has quietly been pushing lights to the front of choice. Here's the real idea, Base matchmaking on class, like sorry can't have more than 2 lights on the team so either change classes or wait for another game. If all the lights had to wait forever to get into a game then they wouldn't be so quick to play light then quit when they die a few times

[signal basin]

Lol if you complain about that, you are the problem in this equation. Sorry for you. 386 dmg in two hit ? Just try once to do that by yourself. You will see how hard it is

[quick coyote]

You should go crawler back into the asshole you came out of

[slow crescent]

Why model need nerf if its weapon not changes from 1S? Its only one weapon on M that has not changet at all and worked soo correctly. Just make nerf difib specialization and in that moment M gone from meta

[short dock]

craziest take ever. its like you're saying they're too overpowered they need a nerf but also I hate when my teammates are lights like maybe they should just give each class a fair playing chance instead of catering to the idea of "I hate lights don't make me play with them because I happened to get in a game with a random who wants to play light and I hate those team mates" You act like everyone is a light main and needs to change but most people are medium mains and its completely reasonable to allow people to play what they want and give each class a fair chance. The game is not overwatch 2.0 so I would assume the goal would be to make every team comp viable? Seems like you just wanna vault the entire light class. Makes no sense to me that you can complain about them being too op when they fight you but when they're your team mates its the worst class and nobody should pick it.

[vivid socket]

nerf the dagger its hit reg is cooked. one tapping you when your facing them lol

[rancid cloud]

Blocked players still end up in my matches, I do not want to see these people in my games. Make blocks prevent people from joining my matches.

[daring fossil]

block just stops people from talking and sending you invites

[terse lark]

light class is terribly unviable in comp. they need something, literally anything. it's honestly wild how light class has consistently been the worst class since launch. idc what embark does to make light actually viable, just do something please. whether it happens through light weapons getting some buffs so they can duel M and H, adding more utility to the light kit that supports their team, even bringing their hp to 175. just please do something

[mortal notch]

how new are you? do you have arms and eyes if so stop complaing

[neon kettle]

M is the most op class this season what are you talking about?

[thick sorrel]

Yep, instead they Roll the Dice for Patch Update 4.5.0

Dual Blades:

Removed 1 blade from 2 to 1.

MGL32:

Grenade bounces 3 times before detonation

93R:

Sniper Scope added

Defibrillator:

Increase Charges from 1 to 2

[quick coyote]

well the game started off great! then the devs started adding modes that were not in the orginal idea then the season pass really got wacky just saying its why i quit

[viral stump]

personally I think we should all be fighting with sticks and clubs this would make everything fair.

[strange wren]

Needs more game modes & maps. King of the hill would be a good fit. Standard team death match. Season 5 is kinda of a let down 1 map in cash out, 1 weapon for each class think the map we got is all over the place.

[quick lichen]

an auto queue option for quick play modes would be great

[rancid cloud]

Lost four consecutive first rounds in WT, why am I not getting rank points for time spent playing?

[uncut depot]

Did the game completely abandon the new game modes, did it also abandon the events such as the smoking gun?,The game has really become boring. All you have to do every season is play Ranked, World Tour, and complete the Battle Pass. This is very boring. I have been through new game modes like Terminal Attack and Power Shift for over 6 months now and no change has happened in the game except for fixing errors and weakening and strengthening weapons. This is boring. We want some excitement in the game.
@daring fossil The events in the World Tour are pretty good, but not as good as adding new game modes.

[daring fossil]

the headshot from 35 meters only tracks when it feels like it. like a month later and I still only have 11, I got 2 headshots at 40m last game and neither of them tracked.

@uncut depot the events are in world tour now, so fuck anybody who doesn't like 3v3v3v3 cashout.

[mortal notch]

fix xbox performance freezing every 20 seconds on kyoto isnt fun

[dusk basin]

the match making is literal shit it takes a long time to queue up and the enemies are wayy higher lvl or has more skill than your teamates

[scarlet jackal]

Because other guns were nerfed and balanced and model its most strong right now from far away up to close range. Just remember how strong H auto shotgun was.

[quick lichen]

points are given for completing rounds. first round I know for a fact is worth 6 points

[sand ridge]

When will turret get some kinda of damage or health buff. Maybe a quicker boot up time or range/fov buff. Anything to make it a not a non threat unless a team has 2-3(which can be instantly reshaped cause there’s three charges) Other specialization only need one player to shine.

[unreal kindle]

Thank you for lowering the requirement on the 50m headshot challenge I no longer have to grief my team and can just get it by playing naturally

[jagged cedar]

because every other issue from S1 got fixed, model has always been an issue, just not a glaring one

[rancid cloud]

Wait you get six points regardless if you win or not? I’m not seeing the pop up for it. It should be rewarding points for time invested.

[daring fossil]

no you get 6 points if you qualify

[finite galleon]

Can white roles not have access to this channel please. Or just ban this guy permanently cuz the user below me makes a really good point.

[fluid birch]

So how does the general playerbase feel about the goo being so mercilessly nerfed? It was framed as "removing goo ships" but now the goo:

• cannot stop a player from stealing
• players that are held with the goo can shoot through it
• players on ziplines cannot be stopped by the goo
• all forms of goo launching no longer work
  This has, of course, has a major blow to the GOO GANG

[candid epoch]

Can we fix the neanderthal mentality of quick cash being just for kills? It's an objective based gamemode, and yet consistently people throw games to chase after kills like its a crack addiction, and others will ignore the point entirely for the sole purpose of farming kills. Yes, this is a shooter where kills are a part of the game, but in Quick Cash specficially it's a gamemode centered around a single objective with three teams, the number of times neither me or the person I'm fighting have the point but we're fighting 100m+ away from it is infuriating. This isn't even a skill issue, I'm completely fine losing in a fight, it's just when people are playing like idiots and I have to fight them, win or loss, I'm sick of it.

[zinc scaffold]

light is god awful lmao having a pair of eyes and ears literally counters invis, if youre struggling to fight against lights its a literal skill issue 😭

[hoary vessel]

nerf sledgehammer

[rapid plover]

Simple and nice suggestion:
Being able to do gift to people.
Like when there is a 1v5, and the guy is really concentrated, you go in the chat and go like "Yo, if you win this one, I offer you the turtle shield."
I think it would be really funny, but also just nice in general, and would bring up more money to Embark.

[frail smelt]

i can't tolerate this anymore, today and past few day (mostly today) i am facing a glitch in which my cross-hair in scope disappears or i cant go on scope cause my aiming line and crosshair arent in sync, i used my M60 as a short range weapon, can someone help me fix this problem 😿

[rancid cloud]

There is no game that can be played online if there are no players investing time into that game. I should be getting points for playing the fucking game. I should be getting points for time invested in World Tour. I'm not gambling my time in ranked because you can lose hours of invested time in ranked. There is a reason I'm not playing ranked. If I invest X many hours in WT, I should get rewards for time spent.

I know, just venting a frustration and providing actual feedback to the devs. Genuinely don't care if changing "win points" to something else like "career subsidies" or "sponsor funding" ruins the fantasy of "playing a game show"; if I'm having an absolutely horrible time playing the game and getting stomped in these lobbies, I expect some compensation for being someone else's good time.

[daring fossil]

im not disagreeing with you.

[finite galleon]

You get rewarded for winning the first fucking round.

[dull bloom]

battle pass XP
fans points
weapon and gadget XP

[tall cradle]

Please revert the changes to Data Reshaper. At the very least find a place for the glitch barrel in the previous consistent sequence. By introducing randomness you've reduced some of the versatility of the gadget. Almost no one used it, you've made it better by increasing charges, only to gimp it right after.

[mortal notch]

buff embark

[shy parcel]

cause you’re not supposed to lose lol

[untold orbit]

u might as well remove expected q times because they are never accurate once you get above a certain level

[glad trout]

Embark does need a budget buff

[night spruce]

Lower the damage on Model 1887

[pulsar willow]

Damage is fine
Just nerf it's spread/damage falloff

[untold orbit]

"estimated wait time -3 min..." Ive been sitting here for 20 min.

[tawdry tree]

I love dual blades but it feels very punishing just to play the weapon. Blocking feels inconsistant, sometimes you're gonna revert all bullets back to the shooter and sometimes, they can shoot entire magazines at without getting tuch, rng is very frustrating in FPS.

The overall dmg reduction is nice, you feel protected behind those bad boys, but the dmg... Damn it's bad. Getting close is actually a challenge, and even tho you closed the gap, it's a equal fight against an AKM, 50/50 chance to win when you put a harder work than the opposent to compensate the cons of the weapon does not feel good.

I thinck dual blades deserve at least a RPM buff, then maybe a speed buff while blocking if the first buff isn't enough

[zealous schooner]

turn your crossplay on or off, try re-queuing, press buttons and it might work

[dense ivy]

Can we PLEASE, get a Pacific Northwest server. I have 1 gig symmetrical fiber with like 15 ping, I should not be lagging as hard as I do. I watch other people’s clips and everything is so much snappier and more consistent. I lag to the point that the game is nearly unplayable. I get game losing no regs every single day. This is so incredibly frustrating it genuinely might push me away from the game.

Not to mention the fact that movement is server side, meaning even my movement is laggy and I frequently “ghost jump” where I’ll leap off a ledge and see myself moving upwards, only to suddenly find myself falling as if I had only run off the edge

[jade cloak]

So you're a supporter of fomo, more than a supporter of players being able to get what they want if they want to.

[cedar flint]

Well I spent my money on the battle pass because I knew the skins would be OG but they won’t be OG if they run out of ideas and decide to release a battle pass skin in the item shop

[upper citrus]

Um, no. Not everyone is in a financial situation to be buying battlepasses and some might just need to wait until they have more money in to buy things they like.

And the event cosmetics have already started coming back. The powershift charm is in the career levels now.

It is still just an objectively healthier environment for players to buy skins in when they don’t have to worry about whether they will come back or not.

Your arguments have no point when given little thought.

[wind meteor]

the battle pass gives a ton of rewards, not just one skin which current price is a good portion of the price you paid for the battlepass. Plus, the battle is basically for free after completing it.

[smoky gust]

I have noticed that sledge is a lot more stingy after the hitbox changes
Sometimes you get a miss because youre slightly looking above someone thats crouching, or when youre trying to hit someone thats on stairs
It might need a few more tweaks, but on its own, that is somewhat annoying but fine as a whole considering how much less annoying it is to face

What is not fine, is sledge behaving this way, while a sword light can visibly dash past you, and still hit you
Or how they can get stuck in goo during a dash and still hit you while you are 3 meters away

Make the hitbox for sword more accurate to reduce frustrations around it in the same way you did with sledge please

[frosty totem]

If Embark said it would be exclusives, that should remain exclusives. It's that simple, word matters. They can market future BPs as non-exclusive, being clear about it, then nobody will feel decieved. Or give OGs multibucks compensation for it, but I guess reskin is just cheaper for them. Just don't break your word.

[mental hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299353615676211270/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[candid cypress]

Red dot sights are overpowered, honestly. I think Embark shouldn't have added them because they make weapons way too OP. I play with the AKM, and I've never gotten as many kills as I have with the sight. And I'm not even talking about the XP, which is hardly used anymore in favor of the M11 + Sight, which I think is one of the most OP weapons right now.

[paper birch]

too much occasional stutters and frame drops in the last 2 updates. I've got everthing on low

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[solar sparrow]

FIX THE SERVERS!!! I have been waiting for 22 minutes to find one ranked match!

[lost talon]

+1

[rough herald]

map idea: double gravity madness

think 2 flouting island with one up side down sandwich on each other
the playable space is between the island
and there'll be map movement "gravity jump pad" that change you'r grav to the other side

[obsidian ginkgo]

when we got model 1887 and light sword nerf ? it's unplayable shit. EMBARK please check games, do smth, currently ranked state is awful, new spawn system solve nothin, team spawns right infront of you and if you coverin cashout and 3rd team wiped u spawned on another point.

[pallid jetty]

Thoughts on improving Emerald:

• Bronze to Diamond badges require win points.
• Emerald badges require tournament wins, not win points.
• Wins always count towards Emerald progress in the background, even when players are in lower badges.
• Emerald badges actually unlock and become attributed to the player once they reach Diamond 1.

Objectives:

• Emerald rewards are higher prestige by requiring wins.
• Emerald doesn't become a time sensitive rush near the end of the season after players reach Diamond 1.

Scenarios:

• A player reaches Diamond 1 with win points, but is not good enough to actually win a tournament. They don't reach Emerald.
• A player reaches Diamond 1 with win points, lots of which they gained via wins. They reach Emerald thanks to the wins they've already achieved over the season, and they continue to progress their Emerald badge with more wins.

[violet elbow]

current system seems fine tbf, wouldnt mind the win points but WT is a good playlist to play for people who reached diamond week 1 and just wanna chill a bit but still play the game.

[echo urchin]

No. You shouldn’t get WT progression points for coming in last or second to last. You get XP, and you can complete challenges, and whatever.

If you can’t even make it past the first round, you should be asking yourself, “how do I fix that?”.

Plenty of videos on YouTube going over tactics, loadouts, game sense and pacing, et cetera.

Play quick cash and practice.

Turn your mic on and make friends so you don’t have to solo queue as much.

[silent fog]

So when are you removing Kyoto? Such a bad map it's insane

[tender hornet]

I'm having a hella hard time getting the Interrupt Opponents who are stealing your team's cash out challenge.
I haven't been able to get any, and I've stopped people from stealing a cash out (whether simply interrupting them, or killing them)

[dusty igloo]

This game is so fucking dogshit right now, you had it almost perfect but now its all just medium, medium and MORE FUCKING MEDIUM. It is not fun to play competitive anymore cause its just fucking mediums over and over and over and over again and again and again, if there is no nerf to triple mediums next patch then we all know you are actually delusional

[chrome basin]

Can we talk about ranked seeding? Anyone feels like the logic is stupid? How can you seed someone higher that is in a soloq team, vs a premade team. They should naturally have a boost. Otherwise whats stoping you from getting boosting accounts? I can just go make a shitty account that loses and dies 24/7 in his placement matches and go and rank my friends up after that. The logic should also have a boost to winstreak. If you are winning multiple tournaments one after another you should naturally be seeded higher

[fossil cairn]

They nerfed most of the guns to the ground. The only one left in original ie usable state is model 1887. No wonder that ppl wanted to use gun that shoots bullets not peas.

[rough herald]

i second this, it need a big ass rework or even a remade
for now tho pls just removed it

[delicate basin]

I was enjoying a nice gooey soup with my BIG spoon, when suddenly YOU SHAT IN THE SOUP. REVERT GOOOOOO!

[full dragon]

I don't find this challenge fun either. Blatantly forcing me to play at a distance (and ignore objectives) with gadgets is not fun.

[upper citrus]

Yes, the devs intentionally raised the TTK of the game since launch to better fit the team based gameplay they wanted to see from this game. Now you can no longer reliably 1v3 with an FCAR that has 0 relevant downsides. this is a GOOD thing.

@lost talon they got bored

[lost talon]

and why did they nerf the FPS

[quick coyote]

i think kyoto is not so good to play on as well but its a beautifull map with lots of buildings. dont think the map should be remover but it def needs a rework. more mobility and maybe shrink it down a bit

[thorn kelp]

I want to bring back a suggestion I came up with for a gamemode involving the Terminal Station (I think it has a really unique design)

CNS is back and bigger than ever. They're here to introduce their latest gamemode

Terminal Rush

In this gamemode, 2 teams of 5 will play the role of attackers or defenders. The defenders must protect the 2 Terminal Stations from the Attackers (the locations of both Terminals being relatively close to each other).

When both Terminals are secured by the Attackers, or the Defenders Team Wipe all the Attackers, the Attackers will switch to the role of Defenders and vice-versa. This process will repeat for a best out of 5 win objective.

Courtesy of Vaiiya's defense mechanisms against CNS Respawns will be unlimited for the defenders

The Attackers on the other hand will be given 2 coins at the start of each round. Coins DO NOT carry over rounds. Respawn timers will be reduced for the Attackers. Use them wisely to not get Team Wiped by the Defenders.

(I've been non-stop thinking about this idea since people are keen to suggest gamemode ideas like Team-Deathmatch which is present in almost every shooter out there. I mainly wanted to connect to my BF veterans here with this idea. I hope you like the idea and please share any thoughts)

[silent fog]

Game performance is worse and crashes more frequent. Please fix whatever you messed up in last patch of S3.

[nocturne badger]

WHY THE GAME KEEP GETTING ME LEVEL 10 PLAYERS IN RANKED GAMES???? YOU ARE DESTROYING THE GAME WITH YOUR OWN HANDS

[quick coyote]

At the Q&A we saw, that Mouse and Keyboard support for consoles are in progress.
But when will it come into the game?
Such a sad thing to watch, that it's one if not the most requested feature, and we still dont know when that's gonna be in the game.
I recently stumbled across the patch notes of the game "Predecessor", where the community requested the feature to be in the game, and one week later, they added MnK support.
I know the devs have hard focus on tweaking and improving THE FINALS, but at this point it makes no sense to me, and im pretty sure to all of those who's waiting for this feature.
Crossplay is terrible, the console experience against PC players is just such a letdown.
I was enjoying S4 but the skill gap is just too much for me to handle.

[rough herald]

ma homie, i second you

[verbal sinew]

Good

[split pilot]

👍 I don't think the balancing team even playing the game.

[obsidian ginkgo]

yeah lets just check stats and feedback from reddit\

[dusty igloo]

The truest statement of all time

[silent fog]

🫡

Game performance is worse and crashes more frequent. Please fix whatever you messed up in last patch of S3.

[mossy rose]

your game remains terrible, I've played since Dec 2023, left s3, came back. Asia server remains a hotbed of cheaters and aimbotters, same ol' cheesy gameplay and tricks run the show, this game will always remain pitifully mid. 10k concurrent players till servers offline.

Asia server being infested with cheaters since the start of the game, S3 was good but now all the cheaters caught up

[mossy otter]

can we please (PLEASE) roll back the stupid animation for reloading RPG? it takes forever when you wanna reload the RPG amid fight. with all the nerfs heavy has had, isn't it enough that you gotta add that extra time for the RPG to go in once it has gone through its cooldown?

[obsidian sail]

The final burst in the famas mag is brutal

[north eagle]

grapple needs a buff, because rn dash completely beats grapple, and if you need some verticality, you just use gateway. we also need a stim for light, bc that would be epic, and it would also give invis players an escape option (because right now, dash is just the better pick, especially with vanish bomb) edit #2, stim would also allow melee invis players to chase people down without dash

[tall zephyr]

+1

[fossil delta]

Can we knock the UFO's down with some radiowaves so we can reclaim our FPS?

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[sonic wigeon]

Please improve your anti-cheat

[tropic snow]

consult with high level professional players for game balancing

[elder folio]

Light, gateway, frags, gas. Teammate with motion sensors or sonars. Put in a cashout, throw a gateway above it, when someone is detected near it throw the other gate and start spamming nades thru the gateway. Then when you're outta nades, just to thru yourself.
@blazing dagger cuz shotguns do that irl. Ofc it shouldn't, but ig it's realistic?

[graceful stratus]

Pressing button combinations in this game is the worst.

[mental hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299209361549299794/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[rustic stratus]

unable to enter match. stuck on loading screen

[full dragon]

I suppose I could try it, but I solo-queue all the time so teammates would wonder what I'm doing camping so far away

[blazing dagger]

I dont understand why the model is still this strong on mid to long ranges. why tf is it even doing damage beyond 20m or so

[pseudo inlet]

They should nerf m11 literally whole lobby is running around with it. 😭 Atleast 30 in the magazine

[fervent vortex]

One has to wonder if these devs even show up to work, finals gets a patch every month and it’s typically shit, and arc raiders is a flawed game which won’t live 6 months compared to other extraction shooters, mofos literally don’t work

[tough kiln]

Embark if you are determined to keep defib as a gadget for whatever reason at least increase the CD and make it so the CD doesn't keep decreasing while dead. Pause the CD until they revive with a token or after team wipe.

[brittle obsidian]

So-called good medium mains when model is nerfed: 💎>>>🥉

[red mural]

So-called good light mains when taser and dash is nerfed:💎 >>>💩

[worn crest]

lol maybe I’ll get higher from that. I’m a light player who uses grapple and no taser

[round hornet]

Dash is completely shut down by good tracking, which I assume you lack completely.

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players

[versed cloud]

When y'all gonna start banning people with offensive names?

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[rough herald]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-opinion-opinion-gif-22134945

[sonic spoke]

update game
@calm orbit use either degal or lewis. They both seem to headshot well. You don't need to do much damage, just hit.
@versed cloud report in game as offensive profile, and or post in #video-player-reports with a screen shot. When you see a player in game with the name "player" they may have had an inappropriate name and had it force changed. Confirmed in voice chat during a match with a contestant who had player as their name.

[frank gull]

I think I agree with everything you're saying. Model has clearly been a issue for every skill base, I hope they change the range, or just make it 5 pellets doing 100 DMG with the top two having .50 multiplier making contestants that actually want to do max damage (120) have to aim. Aiming slows down the game sooo much, the meta was so much better around Mesh, & Heal B... I.M.O it's was the easiest Meta for HML.
Mesh shield, Heal B., & Dash should be Meta specialization.
People focusing way too much on triple stack & not how dominant having HML actually is.

However certain classes, gadgets, & weapons will always feel OP in poorly coordinated, & low communication.
The Finals plays out like a fighting game. Winning your 1 v 1 isn't enough. You have to finish your Combo & get the S.W. to thrive and make it to the Finals & win.

Side note: I don't think Heavy getting mobility would be great for balance, however if RPG did 50 damage on enemy impact, but did 0 splash damage & launched heavy if used point blank, & winch claw could be used like a less useful grapple. The way it's used to pull a Cash Out station could be a great tool for heavy to move himself.

[stiff jasper]

badge update where you can see how far you are off from the next level while hovering it in the character customization?

[deep sierra]

Yeah almost every weapon in season 1 can 1v3 if you were better than the 3 players you're fighting I don't see this as a problem. Season 1 ttk felt better for the fast paced game it is.

[quick coyote]

FIX THE MATCHMAKING HALF MY TEAMMATES KEEP RUNNING OFF GETTING KILLED SOLO

[spring locust]

Since all bets are off, can yall put ruby skins in the shop

[clear hemlock]

You play the ultimate counter to dash, model, and still get fucked? 💩→💩

[tender sail]

Fix your dumbass spawns. 30s left and I'm spawned 200m away from the CLOSEST cashout.

[barren hare]

Please do something about the matchmaking, it's getting really tiring of seeing turbo sweats with emerald guns queued with me in quick cash

[sullen ridge]

Quick cash is not meant to have a matchmaking as it is a casual game mode

[twilit geode]

WHY HASN'T EMBARK FIXED THE MATCHMAKING "We didn't get a third teammate" resulting Losing RS" It is itself hard to Rank up and losing 1300RS is a big NO.

[silent fog]

Game performance is worse and crashes more frequent. Please fix whatever you messed up in last patch of S3.

[sharp creek]

embark why tf did yall remove the class select feature while in a quick cash lobby, before the game starts

[sweet hamlet]

can we nerf the turrets of the medium guy too tanky and too much damage

[tardy mirage]

Hey could you guys put a countdown on your website till the next season so I can feel the NEED TO GET THOSE CASH OUTS! 💰 🗣️

[cosmic ether]

Why is it that I get better team mates in quick cash and powershift as opposed to World Tour. The solo que experience is downright miserable sometimes.

[celest ore]

Asia ranked server crawling with hacker both shotgun long range and aimbot Please avoid it

[pale egret]

No games ban for offensive names they let you change it or force it to change

[quaint jetty]

People are abusing dash/sword.. pls fix this shit it ruins the game

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

FIX RANKED EMBARK I KEEP GETTING TEAMMATES WHO WANNA RUN OFF AND PLAY CALL OF DUTY BECAUSE THEY THINK KILLS = BETTER,

add a social score where we can point out the fact that they try to play by themselves so they get paired with people who play by themselves

[orchid abyss]

New Game Show Events Suggestions for The Finals

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1gc6f5v/events_suggestions_for_the_finals_world_tour/

[dusky apex]

can u make it so when you change default region you can actually be put into that queue...thanks

[frank gull]

If you can't buy the $10 B.P. in 3 months because of your situation spending $20 is just inexcusable...
You're sound like a kid that doesn't know how money works in the real world.
When you get your first job I hope you also get a financial advisor, because you're the one that wants to be exploited so bad rn.

If all contract skins are coming back through more challenges this is the proper way to release FOMO cosmetics I.M.O

"It is still just an objectively healthier environment for players to buy skins in when they don’t have to worry about whether they will come back or not" since they started on S1 B.P & not O.B. or C.B B.P. why wouldn't people worry or wonder when/if there favorite skin is coming back, with the Battle pass pack being in store for a limited time players will feel pressured to make a microtransaction due to you guessed it FOMO Embark selling 20 packs is only thanks to a items "rarity"

Embark is a business id like to see succeed. They can do whatever they want to make a quick buck because at the end of the day business is business. Using predatory microtransactions tactics is within there right as a company since laws against it haven't fully developed...
This channel is for feedback.
Nobody is perfect, & neither is a company.
Many fans genuinely feel this is constructive feedback.

The only toxic FOMO environment I've seen is you & 5 trolls spamming the same meme to anyone who disagreed with the change (or changs Embark makes).
Laughing at people that actually grinded due to FOMO, & Embark using FOMO to make a buck, then lying about it saying they don't want to cause FOMO?

Just tell the player's you're out of ideas, or currently unable to just do a color change like you've done before with other S1 B.P. skins... (Which almost all are better than the original)

The principal of the matter is Embark sold/advertised Exclusive Skins, & gave players a few collectibles for being the first to play & support.
Nothing is special about the alien suit.
It gives you a bigger hitbox & just makes you abundantly more noticable.(bright lime green)
The only thing it had going for it was exclusivity. Sure it's just a game, but why are people sweating in ranked, Why are kids hitting diamond week 1 & kids like you spending all day in these chats if it wasn't important, or just interesting.
You're support for Embark is UNMATCHED, but I hope you will give them actual constructive criticism when you're done sucking up to them.

Your gameplay recommendations for someone who wants to main light are half decent. Please stay away from financial advice until you get your first job brother bear.

[upper citrus]

It’s actually insane how badly you want companies to exploit you using FOMO. I’m the child apparently but you’re crying over a green alien skin being obtainable by other players in a videogame?

Your interpretation of what I said is also dogshit. Is it a good financial decision to buy skins if you aren’t well off? Of course not. But that’s not how it works in real life, people will be buying skins even if they can’t afford it. That’s just how the world works (it’s almost like there are FOMO systems that games employ to make these people feel bad for not buying something) Having a system that’s less predatory is a good thing.

Actually wild that people are upset over this. It’s a fucking alien skin dude. Are you really that engrained in consumerism that you need to flex how early you gave your money to a company with a 15 billion dollar parent company? Please grow up

[boreal sentinel]

New feature idea:
Add store terminal on the battlefield after the first cashout is done. Players are able to purchase equipment buff that aids them in the battlefield.

Equipments store: Gas mask (gas resistant), Blast Vest (Reduced explosive damage), Stealth Mod (Undetected by turrets), etc and all that shit.

Each kill will provide ???? amount of cash for a whole team.

Store terminal is not permanent and will dissapear within its time limit. Respawns again when the third cashbox appears.

No cash limit to win. Team with most cash when the timer runs out wins.

[crystal sentinel]

crosshair profiles for every weapon

[shadow stirrup]

Your entire "Game Design Engineer" team is robbing you blind. They make zero consequential balance changes and completely missed the mark on the light class. Go back to Tracer and Symmetra to study what you were trying to do, cause what we currently have is a childs attempt at making a video game class. Please either actually try to sell the idea/game to someone who will

[lapis elbow]

the model having as much range as it does is one of the top 10 lowest iq decisions of balance for this game
why does every other shotgun fall off for as far as i can flip a coin off of my thumb and then the model is as far as i can throw a baseball

[chilly niche]

How to fix the Model, bring back Dead Go Boom. problem solved

[shy ferry]

This game is amazing it really is absolutely amazing but can the developers please crack down on people that leave competitive matches, it happens way too much and its really bringing the game down an absolute ton. so please do something to combat this because a 10-60+mins ban really isn't working at all.

[lost talon]

remove low gravity from the game

[shy parcel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266737129182986342/1298911616217382953/2024-10-2408-25-51-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[tawdry tree]

Man, come on, stop try harding the shit out of a gamemode that changes nothing to your elo and have fun playing an event that does stupid interaction in fight. I mean, it's fun, it's just fun

[fleet timber]

hello what about cl 40 it is so annoying
give it more self-damage or less damage
very toxic gun
and what about some quests that make me freak out
like 25 headshots from distance of 35m or more
ty for not 50 headshots and not from 50m
this is a game where almost all fights are in close range
and many maps haven't open areas almost it buildings where close distance
and I need to ruin the game with fucking sniper rifle to complete this quest
and quest like "interrupt opponents who are stealing your team's cashout or interfering with your team's decryption at the terminal"
only completing when your opponent is killed by you when he doing steel, but when he cancels to steal or doesn't die or is killed by teammate it doesn't complete
just give an alternative to swap this quest for more fun and don't freak I think it needs to be fun not to tryhard for luck or give some discomfort

[nocturne tendon]

Nerf Charge & Slam damage to players, heavies use it as a free win in 1v1s.
RPG + Charge is a quick instant 230 damage. Heavy should be more shield and destruction playstyle.
Also the M11 needs a nerf of some sort, watching lights miss over half their shots and still have enough bullets to shred a medium in the body.
And the Model OMG 💀

[violet raptor]

Matchmaking in ranked is Wild West.

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[torn plaza]

Dont nerf model bc it reward the aim of the player and we have to anticip with the reloading it still balanced, you miss ur shot you will probably die, vs a Light, the Light has just to move better like a Light, the médium good aiming will win, and the heavy as way more live to kill a med with the model so it still balanced and verry pleasant to play with, stop wanted to nerf everything it kills the fun of the game

[surreal meadow]

324 days of not having casual appeal

5v5 Cash
TDM

(except for powershift thats a good one)
guys i wonder why people cant love this game more often even tho this game is very unique and sells itself as a casual game which is an oxymoron
totally isnt struggling to appeal to casuals and the one way you can alleviate that is by adding simpler gamemodes - surely this game isnt struggling

[nimble kiln]

bad take, go next

[frank gull]

That would be wild if Embark went from S1 Recon sense, Removed the specialization, Made a gadget a specialization, but allowed *L Invisible bomb to give 3 players a specialization. One of the best at that.
If *L can have the best rcon & demolition gadgets, *H have great demo & good recon, *M should be able to have the best Recon through specialization Recon sense Same logic as demat. *M doesn't have any recon or demolition gadgets...

*L is a great pick for Experienced players that know how to play ranked. Every other mode becomes practice not competition. *M & *H struggle ALOT more in pubs than *L. I.M.O.

I think the only problem *L players have is following the lead of H or M. *L contestant is a great addition to a squad doubling can definitely be a meta pick I.M.O

[dusky locust]

make the punishment for leaving a match of world tour 10x worse. It sucks it really sucks!

[quick coyote]

I will probably never be heard because of the very loud group of players that are always on the discord, but I think that the whole idea of selling battlepass cosmetics would be fine - granted that specific cosmetics never leave the battlepass (eg: the season specific character skins at the very end). Repackaged cosmetics should also be made slightly more expensive to allow those who were around for and completed the battlepass to feel like they got the best deal. If you read this - thank you :D

[scarlet knoll]

It’s balanced, requires skill to use and your limited by fighting in mostly close quarters. Any heavy or light that knows what they’re doing can beat it

[violet elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-out-cage-angry-gif-24075632

[brittle obsidian]

all this yapping and still wrong how sad

[elder basin]

Not a big problem but I think it's supposed to go across and back when you go to the far side

[analog hearth]

nerf sword+dash

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[lost talon]

if somebody is being revived on the platform and the revier dies then the game should wait until the revive the complete instead of just ending in the middle of the revived spawn

[rough storm]

remove model

[twilit gyro]

In ranked mode, PLEASE cancel the match if the 3rd person can't connect. Or at least don't make the other two lose RS

[brittle obsidian]

is this good bait or bad bait i can't tell

[jagged knot]

Bro, I agree with you .... But it has the range, the spread is too low, the fire rate is too good for a shotgun, and it can literally 2 shots a light. If you compare to the M26 matter you would know how over-tuned it is.

[tropic snow]

ITS STILL FOMO TACTIC IF ITS A SEASONAL LIMITED TIME SALE lmao youre the type of consumer they lead with a carrot on a stick to take whatever bullshit excuse they cook up

[thorny ingot]

WT is the worst mode ever. wish the event will end already.
no proper spawn locations
no matchmaking of anykind
this game is going the Apex route. will die soon.

[hexed terrace]

Two shot light at 22m is balanced ?

[upper citrus]

did i say theres no more fomo completely? no. theres less fomo and its a healthier environment, objectively. they said seasonal skins will return. its just a waiting period not permanently missing out.

[boreal rivet]

embark needs to make The Finals 2 so it can become the 3rd legendary TF2, along side Team Fortress 2 and Titan Fall 2

[hard pumice]

Anyone else think triple medium defib is boring to play against, and they really need to change how defib works with cooldown

[somber lynx]

I would like to see a low probability of Kaguyahime appearing when bamboo on the Kyoto map is destroyed.

[frank gull]

No reason to take seriously? yet players were hitting Emerald 1 week 1 🤣 I understand ranked is more complicated, but W.T. isn't a "free" win. It's still great practice for Ranked. You're playing a tournament against people trying to win. On the contrary players not being scared to lose a game could help them play a better game if they had less pressure to perform.

Acting like world Tour, or even Q.C. isn't good practice for meta, or combos is a bad take. If you can pull it off on Q.C. & W.T. you definitely have a chance to pull it off in ranked. Practice makes perfect so take notes. What you see in those modes could end up costing you a game.

@violet elbow has a great point.
#👂┇game-feedback message. - W.T. SURE IS A fun place for week 1 Diamond nerds to have fun & actually play *L & put the Defib away

#👂┇game-feedback message - which is all the more reason I agree with @chrome basin rank seeding should be discussed, & solo Q should have a different reward system then a 3 stack.
It's quite obvious "High Elo" is scared to actually make a mistake & will play the safest, & most forgiving class to rank up fast, then act clueless when people say *L is meta, Mesh, Dome, Heal B., Defib, have been overworked since S2 the problem is just skill issue, or Ego.

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 61)

[violet elbow]

was week 1 diamond on light btw so please dont do me like that

[mighty ibex]

I wont play this game till Embarks fixes matchmaking so I dont get queued up with 2 lights every round and keep getting stuck in Silver 1 while having the skill of a Plat 1.

[woeful arch]

Please give us some funny lobby / spawn voice lines. Loving the Halloween-themed voice lines when pressing "cool"! Been fun discovering them random

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[shrewd echo]

I want a taco launcher, and when you hit the enemy with it all you can hear is," oooooohyeaaaaaaah."

[wide void]

CL-40: slow projectile doing 100 damage, 5 shots before reloading, reloads slower when dry, does up to 160 self-damage
Model 1887: 128 hitscan damage, 6 shots before reloading, reloads fastest when dry, does no self-damage

Make it make sense

[hexed glacier]

I like how this game players changes their weapon in mid game without dying, I just got one on OBS a few minutes ago, for those that noticed some enemies have invisible weapons it's because only their selected weapon have the model loaded, if they switch to some other weapon with their cheats you can see it, well just another day in the finals, should I post my video here with the cheater?

[fast flare]

Please change how the Charge n Slam damage works. With the sheer amount of health heavy has, it is near impossible to push a heavy without dying to their CnS. Ideally make it so the charge can only hit a player once, Instead of being able to jiggle back and forth to just mince any lights or medium playing

[unreal fossil]

Essentially the same type of gameplay since they can both be effective while hipfiring, but you purposely don't mention that the CL40 shoots explosive projectiles, so AoE damage, not to mention the chaos it generates (it's sometimes difficult to see wtf is going on when you constantly have explosions going off in your face).

Also 100 max damage is equal to the RPG which reloads every what ? 40 seconds ? That's still pretty strong in my book.

[neon burrow]

Since ranked rewards outside of ruby and well WT are based on merely reaching a rank treshold, why not give the rewards outright when you meet the criteria?

Personally I wanna get my candies on Halloween rather than chrismas

[tropic snow]

There isnt any "less" fomo at all, people are just as likely to buy battlepasses to not miss out, like seriously who in the right mind do you imagine saying "hm I wont buy the battlepass now because MAYBE I can buy that one bundle I like from it it in a year for twice it's cost IF I'll be still playing at the time of a limited event sale" LMAO and its also not healthier environment either because people feel like a privilege they paid/grinded for has been taken away from them. Nothing changed except Embarks wallet and reputation once again

[hexed terrace]

Day 3 of asking a nerf for model 1887

[upper citrus]

wait not having time gated skins in a battlepass isn't actually less fomo youre quite the genius

[sage sapphire]

Alright my fellow contestants, everyday I've been sending a Halloween wishlist of suggested stuff! (feel free to repost)
So we got:
Jack-o-lantern frags
Spider and Web for Winch
Necronomicon Defibs
Thiq skeleton or maybe skeleton decal clothes
Witches' Broom for sledge
Demon Eye pyro nade
Transmutation Circle Jump Pads
Planchettes (Ouija board thingies) for throwing knives
Grim Reaper skin + Scythe for sledge
Ritual Dagger for well... Dagger
Mini Witch Cauldrons for gas grenades
Fortune Teller crystal for vanish bomb...
Inspect: you wave your hand around over it and it'll show a statue from one of the enemy teams (even if they're all alive)
Potion Bottle/Alchemical Fire for gas grenade/pyro
Cashout Cadaver, a little skeleton pet that dances and stands on your shoulder when you play, ala Shrek and Mongo
Webwork Goo Gun, has a spider around the barrel and fires web decaled goo.
An emote where you strike a Dracula style pose and a couple of bats swarm you, causing you to bat them away.
Lycanthrope head
A living gargoyle pet
Any more spooky ideas?
I beg you Embark, hear us out!

[wide void]

@unreal fossil The AoE is not that big, and the falloff is immense. You can mitigate like half the damage just by jumping over the explosion. Or you can just outright juke the whole projectile, or take the highground, or jumppad into the air, all of which avoid damage entirely. By comparison, you can't really dodge hitscan.

Making it "difficult to see" goes both ways -- it's not purely advantageous to the user, and it can be detrimental to teammates.

Comparing a Medium WEAPON to a Heavy GADGET is just completely wrong. And the explosion is not even as good as the RPG's, anyway, because its destructive power is less and its splash radius is much smaller. Compared to other Medium weapons, CL-40 is almost completely obsoleted by Model for dealing consistent damage in indoors, close-range fights and Pike for dealing consistent damage in outdoors, long-range fights. Use the gadgets or specializations for applying pressure around or through cover instead of relying on the potato cannon's AoE. Frags bounce and do 149 damage in a far more generous radius.

@pollywoggy.#0000 @upper citrus You're both right in some ways. Having some items in the past BPs return is nice, but it's also scummy of Embark to have only now decided this and to make it unclear which items exactly will return and when. There is less FOMO, but they screwed over customers' expectations over previous purchases.

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[cobalt anchor]

REVERSE THE EXPLOSIVE NERF. REVERSE CL40 NERF. REVERSE THE HEAVY NERF. REVERSE DOME SHIELD AND MESH SHIELD. REVERSE CHARGE AND SLAM NERF. WHAT THE FUCK. STOP PANDERING TO LIGHTS COMPLAINING ON DISCORD YOU HAVE RUINED THE HEAVY CLASS IN ITS ENTIRETY BECAUSE OF A BUNCH OF NOOBS WHINING ON DISCORD THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BALANCE OF THE GAME UNTIL YOU NERFED HEAVY INTO THE FLOOR. I DONT EVEN PLAY HEAVY. WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU NERF CHARGE AND SLAM NO ONE EVEN USES IT. HALF THE GUNS ARE UNUSABLE NOW. ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT HAVE HAS IS USELESS NOW. WHY NOT NERF SOMETHING THAT DESERVES A NERF LIKE M11 M1887 BOW OR SNIPER RIFLE

[winter vapor]

why is it so fucking difficult for you guys to understand BALANCE?! Youve put me with dogshit teams 4 games now, 4 consecutive losses in a row, 4 plus kdr, equal obj score as others, still a fucking loss every time.

The effort you put into this is pathetic.

Please hire a new team.

[warm compass]

this streamer on controller using zen . embark plz so something he doesn’t miss a bullet

[livid basin]

bring back 48 player tournaments, at least for world tour

[dense valve]

Day 1 of saying nerf Model 1887

[clear hemlock]

When your so mad you start saying things that never happened:

[brisk laurel]

Can we please add a sight to the sword please?

[violet elbow]

noobs

wants aoe damage buffed

[short dock]

I can agree that world tour is good practice for combos and I don't doubt that people try on world tour, but that doesn't take away the fact that it still can be a playground with not much consequence for throwing unlike ranked and QC definitely isn't great practice because that's basically quick match from r6. I never said w.t was a free win but if you're in a low elo(which this guy clearly is) you really shouldn't be getting so pressed about losing to a triple light stack on wt. Those lights were trying but clearly shit posting when they chose to all be light and would never do that on ranked unless they just wanted to see what would happen and throw. Triple lights winning is not common and should not be complained about because the light class is still not good and has received several nerfs. For the record, I have no issues with the way wt or qc work I was just trying to argue with the other guy complaining about "the light meta" which isn't real. And for what you said before, yes lights can be meta potentially, but they definitely aren't right now and will need a few updates before they are.

[versed cloud]

Report system doesn't work straight out. Is it just put there for placebo effect at this point? People have no recoil and it's obvious as fuck. People have racist or straight out deranged names that if I typed in here would get me banned from this server. Extremely annoying to have to play with the same guys over and over and see the trend.

[slow crescent]

+++++

[remote verge]

chatgpt ah speach

[frank gull]

they are predictable, your experience has given you awareness. Since you know what they'll do just play the objective to your advantage.
Embark had to give people 30% on a plug just to get people to stop playing TDM & actually play the objective as a team.

Edit: this new challenge for Defib has also caused players to do a lot better in W.T. & Ranked.

All the more reason 3 stack of friends have a clear advantage thanks to communication.

#👂┇game-feedback message - this has been the sentiment since season 1 and was probably the mindset that caused terminal attack to be ranked in season *3.

[candid epoch]

I appreciate this, and while you're right that I can play this to my advantage, doesn't change it being really frustrating when it does happen

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[marsh elm]

Add more historical guns like tommy gun,sten,bren etc

[gritty owl]

the 30% gives you a reason to actually start a cashout and not just go for a last second steal. before, starting a cashout literally didnt matter

[quick lichen]

I think cosmetics like the Bank Rabbit and Pond Dweller outfits should have an option to wear with the hood down so we can still wear our head cosmetics

[scarlet knoll]

Skill issue

[tropic snow]

For one its still time gated otherwise they would keep the alien bundle in store, and two, releasing those seasonal skins in an undefined time keeps battlepasses just as fomo to acquire, I even bothered to explain to you why its an ineffective excuse and merely a measure of backlash damage control, if you still dont see through their marketing tactics youre beyond helping

[dawn anchor]

Original V9S DPS: 265
Fire Rate: 430 RPM (rounds per minute)
Damage per shot: 37

Updated V9S DPS: 240
Fire Rate: 360 RPM (rounds per minute)
Damage per shot: 40

DPS Reduction = 25

If you want to reduce the fire rate while maintaining the damage the weapon does please make the RPM 400. (with 40 damage per shot)

My Preposed V9S Configuration:
RPM: 400
Damage per shot: 40
DPS: 400 * 40 / 60 = ≈ 266.67 (similar to the original DPS)

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players

[remote drift]

You're a sword light, aren't you?

[upper citrus]

(seasonal skins they said will return)

yep this guys a genius

its been 3 days and people are still upset over new players having access to run around in a green alien suit. wild

[wide void]

Play a different game. There are tons of games where hitscan is the only option. CL-40 sucks and if you're not out-DPSing them or dodging the explosions, that's on you.

[livid spruce]

Brother you bought a battlepass hoping the skins will never return and now you're pissed you wasted money on it. If that ain't being a victim of FOMO idk what is.

[vague shadow]

On skibidi

[mighty ibex]

Oh how I love rage quitting bc of bad mates in WT, just to get banned from Ranked for 2 hours, thank you Embark

[tame crag]

Lower the Pikes rate of fire. A lowered Rof will barely even impact the gun

[quick lichen]

Can we get kill cams? obviously they would auto cancel if you get revived, but like i want to know how i messed up so i can improve. Also would help catch more cheaters i think

[coarse dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[neon burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[undone pier]

ohhh gottem

[tawdry bramble]

would be great if you reversed the propane tank and mine combo so people can get an achievement which you added.. 👏🏻 gas/fire doesn't do any damage with a mine.

[dark niche]

when will we be able to emote in the lobby?? :(

[patent wind]

bro who cares? i paid 10 bucks for 96 cosmetics. the people who buy the thing rn get scammed lol. like its literally one skin and its to match the halloween stuff. FOR MORE MONEY. i got a deal. the new ppl wont get a deal. who cares about the exclusivity of the skin

[worn crest]

Embark you should add a little bit of matchmaking to casual lobbies, I don’t want to playing against a bunch of basement dwellers with over 700 wins. It’s ridiculous.

[tropic snow]

Idgaf that new people get those cosmetics, glad for them actually its nice to see goofy outfits around again, what's pissing me off is the oblivious consumers who will glaze Embark no matter what shit they pull off even if they're driving the game off the cliff, and don't even start on why it's not the case because the biggest finals yt content creators struggling to get above 20k-50k subs after a year says more than enough.
Only reason I care to even type this is because how much I love this game and its just sad to see people like Trent enabling Embark to demolish their playerbase even more for money. @livid spruce

[keen abyss]

Agreed

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296847763056885851/1298657245692821534/thegoat.gif

[potent pawn]

[Gadget idea] Add a hallucinatory blowgun!

Add a blowgun (like a little wooden tube you blow on) that silently fires a hallucinatory dart. The impacted player will then hear player footsteps, destruction and nearby gunfire of a weapon, and there could be visual effects like suppression. But they won't actually be there for anyone else. Only the impacted enemy player hears them for a tiny while.

The gadget could be used to make enemies act erratically from a distance, and get distracted when your team actually attacks.

[muted thunder]

Anyone else noticed visible lag since Season 4 start?
I get over 100fps steadily but get into fights where it looks as if I've dropped down to 20-30fps yet my FPS counters show maybe a 1-2 frame drop? I even switched GPUs, made sure game files were verified, updated all drivers, tried rolling back AMD drivers. Nothing seems to have improved it. Also have a black box on all menus instead of a mouse cursor...

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
RX 6800 (Recent)
RX 5700XT (Previous)
32GB RAM
Playing at 4K resolution
Bandwidth is 1Gb/s

[rustic tusk]

Can we please get kill cams so we can see if players are cheating?

[silent fog]

Rework/Remove Kyoto from WT/Ranked. Kyoto should not be in ranked. The map looks pretty but sucks to play.

Game performance is worse and crashes more frequent. Please fix whatever you messed up in last patch of S3.

[wide void]

Let us turn off TAA. please. thank you.

V @violet matrix cope.

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players

[candid epoch]

While I agree that it's annoying to fight against, I'd prefer it if they just somewhat reverted the balance changes for the weapon, because balancing it around the specific situation of not wanting to have a player have to hit a full clip of directs to kill a heavy is such a niche situation because;
A. CL players rarely go for directs anyway
B. It's rewarding not being able to aim??

Like it seems so counterintuitive to have a weapon that's already capable of achieving a niche goal, and then trying to make it better at that goal, instead of focusing on the bigger balances issues for the game as a whole, some of which include (in no particular order):

• Shotguns (In particular the Model 1887)
• The Bow
• The SR-84 (They made it worse at long range when it's the designated long range rifle)
• The Pike-556 (Just nerf the base damage to 49 and it's a fun weapon to fight against, right now it's just a better LH1)
• The Stun Gun (Make it a melee ranged gadget so that the light actually has to risk something to go for a stun, being able to slow down opponents as the already fastest class in the game with basically no risk is stupid, for an example of a good stun look at the Winch Claw)
• etc.

But instead, they make a huge balance change that destroys the games balance for a week before somewhat reverting it, and leaving a weapon unfun to fight agaisnt because of, again, a single niche interaction. I cannot understand it

[delicate basin]

I was so hopeful for this game when you guys added BIG spoon, but now you nerf goohammer. What's the plan here? Having fun or no?

[jagged cedar]

this is literally the best possible world tour rotation, keep kyoto out

[tawdry tree]

It can 2 shot a medium btw

[wide void]

@violet matrix The only 2 reasons to use the CL-40 are that it 1. can do splash damage around cover and 2. is accurate regardless of how you move. Except the splash radius is tiny and falls off extremely quickly, and EVERY OTHER ranged weapon does more DPS and has faster TTKs.

CL-40 may have a lower skill floor, but it's not about "being unable to aim." It's about having a unique utility no other Medium gun has, pressure around corners. But still, it's so bad at that niche and at regular head-on fights that it hardly performs well even in lobbies where people cannot aim hitscan well. At high skill levels where people land headshots, CL-40 is completely overshadowed by every other gun, even when it used to do 117 damage.

There are plenty of counters. Take highground. Jumppad into the air. Rush into their face. Snipe from range. Juke right as they shoot. Goo their face. APS. Or even simply make use of your faster TTKs. If you still can't adapt to it or otherwise just don't like fighting non-hitscan weapons, there are other games.

[valid bay]

Hear me out: 3v3 custom made maps for the final round of tournaments. The current maps feel too big for 3v3

[wintry trout]

game just completely hangs
doesn't even crash, just freezes eternally
great performance patches
both my party members also hung at the same time

[quick coyote]

Revert the dagger plz .......

[rough storm]

Anyone wants to play The Models with me? LFM Model players! model model model

[patent wind]

coincidentally the og maps btw

[upper citrus]

missing the best map in the game (sys) but okay

[potent pawn]

If it didn't nuke my game's performance nearly every time, I would love Kyoto. I like the map a lot.

[rose verge]

This balance patch has made the game borderline unplayable for long periods after about 10 games there’s constant lag and freezes, rubber banding and stuck sprinting in spot what a damn joke y’all are

[timid kiln]

whats up with that patch?

[tardy thistle]

Have Y'all thought about a TDM-Style mode?

[ionic saddle]

Stop matching people in emerald with gold players for fucks sake. People in emerald 1 shouldn't be allowed to play anymore at all since all they're doing at that point is blocking other people from going up. In any case if golds are getting matched with emeralds then we should be getting a fat load of extra elo for beating them.

[terse oxide]

God bless whoever on the team decided to upload the soundtracks. Every season has a truly banger soundtrack, but y'all have yet to cook a tune as crisp as the Steal the Spotlight track. Here's hoping that same vibe hits your composer for S5 🙏

[wintry trout]

@true epoch why haven't embark addressed these incredibly severe performance issues
there's massive, widespread reports and not only have they done nothing about it but they haven't even acknowledged it
and why are all your posts just memes instead of addressing actual issues in the discord
@wraith igloo unfortunately it's happening in games where aliens aren't even active too
@amber plaza best I can do is multi-inch desync

[wraith igloo]

💯 fyi it’s because of the ufo changes, they break too much stuff now and suck up everything including players. You’ll see the server side lag icon every time it happens.

[stiff snow]

We need 120 fps on console

[wide void]

Poor visibility is not a balancing factor. Period. Making the screen slightly harder or easier to see does not actually affect the strategies of the game OR the mechanical input/outputs you do as the player. It's just annoying and adds a needless accessibility hurdle.

If the game really understood what actually makes aiming in a PvP game fun, it'd let you entirely disable the viewmodels if you wanted. But that's a pill some of y'all aren't ready to swallow

[amber plaza]

Would be nice if my bullets went where i'm aiming at. thank embark

[frank gull]

I'm not sure what the new spawn system is, but I hope the new defender advantage is spawning on a vault you are defending.
If you are fighting 2 or 3 squads & get wiped you should also have a fair chance to 3rd party yourself and stop a steal.

I'm not sure how it makes sense to fight a team the entire way to a cash out only to allow another team to spawn on a cash out they're not defending or escorting the vault to, but defending a cash out doesn't give you some kind of proximity advantage?
Please reconsider a defender spawn for contestants trying to defend from 3rd parties or Griefing.

@gritty owl
#👂┇game-feedback message -
Debatable. I believe defending a cash out is always easier than attacking a cash out brother bear.

To add onto it this is also made games for "High Elo" easier to stomp a lobby that isn't on their skill level or as experienced as them.

Embark wanted to reward good players focusing objective, but ignore sloppy coordination or aggressive pointless plays.

Squad wipes matter less than a plug. Making there game of chess into checkers I.M.O
Preventing a S.W. should be treated like a *Objective in the game.
#MakeCoinsMatterAgain

The 4 objectives

1. Cash Out
2. Plug
3. S.W. - this also means preventing your own
4. Eliminations

Personally appreciate Objective holding importance, but S.W. on both ends should be much more important than kills, *& S.W. *shouldn't be so frivolous.

[hazy shore]

nerf the skilless v9s

[red echo]

lmao what? they are the shittest thing in the game xd , your bullets when spraying dont even go where the red dot is xd , they need to remove all the fking visual recoil , red dog sights are fking dogshit

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[terse oxide]

"Would be nice if my bullets went where I'm aiming at. Thanks Embark"
vs
"There's a bug with bullets not always going where I'm aiming"

I really wonder what y'all gain out of being jackasses for no reason

[clear vale]

Pls add a ranged weapon for heavy

Like a 50 cal barret sniper

[wintry trout]

you mean akimbo hand snipers?

[pliant glade]

God heavy needs a buff but at the same time dude the fact charging slam is a literal win button at times is insane

[candid epoch]

Oh yeah, wild suggestion but one I've wanted for ages; A Map Builder

NOT for custom maps (it could be for full maps, but that'd take too much space)

Specifically for movement courses. I adore the movement and physics engine in this game, and I've got a lot of experience utilising the grapple and all it's tricks, so being able to make courses (akin to TF2 jump maps if you're familiar) would be AWESOME

[upper citrus]

both the lewis gun and the deagles are ranged heavy weapons and they are both stupid (lewis gun less so)

the class with the most HP should not be given the ability to duel from range. there is a reason that tank classes/characters in games are almost always close range

[dense tinsel]

Is anyone having trouble opening the game, where it gets stuck at 3 FPS and the processor usage shoots up? It suddenly started doing that today, and I have no idea what's going on.🙏🏽 🙏🏽 🙏🏽 HELP

[wide flame]

fix the terrible team spawns, constantly spawning right next to an enemy team and getting shot not even 5 seconds into being alive again is far from enjoyable, it genuienly ruins the entire game, fix ts

[woven crown]

agree, spawns need to be a bit tweaked

[cerulean mason]

Love playing a 20 minute game bc a team hid the cashbox off the side of the map using goo making it inaccessible. You could jump down to it but there was no way back up. Then they proceeded to run the entire match timer to 0. I only stayed so I could report them. I'm getting pretty tired of how every time I get a friend on this game something like this happens. Kinda hard to get them to stay after games like that. The biggest slap in the face is that you patched all the harmless and fun goo bugs, like og goo flying, yet leave crap like this in the game.

[wide void]

INSTANTLY IMPROVE YOUR GAME IN 5 VERY SIMPLE AND UNCONTROVERSIAL STEPS:

1. Allow players to TURN OFF TEMPORAL ANTI-ALIASING.
2. Allow EVERY WEAPON to be FULL-AUTO. It's not any more or less skillful, it just alleviates stress on the hands.
3. Allow the killfeed to show ALL kills/deaths and allow us to see which players on which teams are still alive on-screen WITHOUT holding Tab to see the entire scoreboard. (Use Team Fortress 2 or Counter-Strike as a reference...)
4. Make the cashout timer 6 seconds shorter (or however long it takes to steal it) and make the timer NOT COMPLETE if you are in the middle of stealing it. This doesn't change anything about the actual mechanics of the gameplay except making it so putting multiple cashboxes into one cashout station is up to 6 seconds stricter. What this achieves is making the timer more intuitive and easier to read in the middle of gameplay. Now instead of the timer being completely meaningless to attackers in the last 6s of it ticking away, the timer still being active tells attackers that they still ACTUALLY have the opportunity to steal.
5. Let us switch themes/songs on the main menu. Your musician(s) went too hard for you to remove their work so quickly :(

[sterile yew]

can we get rid of lowgrave

[unreal fossil]

If you want to see less CnS, Mesh Shield must be buffed back to where it was prior to S4. Right now, CnS is just flat out better than any other Heavy spec. It can effortlessly win 1v1s, clutch against full teams, prevent steals by pushing enemies away... Since the beginning of S4, I've been running Motion Detectors in all my Heavy builds, which can make CnS even more of a nightmare. But I wish I could go back to using the Mesh Shield, it felt more skilled and satisfying to use right, be it in 1v1s or to protect the team. While CnS leads to funny WTF moments, it always feels like a lazy 'nope, I win' crutch.

I would personally trade its damage against the ability to push enemies further, making it an interesting tool if used right, but not a primary source of instant damage.

But once again, before speaking of such a nerf, Mesh Shield has to return, else we would just be weakening Heavy even more...

[hearty bough]

There is no more one-sided matchup in the game than light sword vs. riot shield - can we please even this out even just a little bit? Even if shield could fully block sword damage it would still be a tough fight given the mobility difference. Plz Embonk

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players

[rocky verge]

Do you main light perhaps?
I do agree tho, they should nerf cl-40, maybe the fire rate and projectile speed/distance, cus right now it’s like putting a IBM in a pitching machine, and while I think the damage makes sense, the other stats are kinda whack when combined with it

[red echo]

deleting cl40 would be a huge favour to everyone lmao , even to ppl maining cl 40 , would allow them to actually improve at the game instead of jumping around and having to do 0 aiming

[frank gull]

Jump pad & glitch trap respawn time should be 15 sec in game utility in general needs a buff.

I.M.O Vanish bomb should remove any status effect, & make you immune for 1 sec, or even have 50 Hp against status effects.

I hope Embark considers giving grapple a half charge to stack.

Cloak should allow users to completely vanish if they squat

Still feel like Dash could use a slight buff to regeneration, possibly a small increase in range
Not sure what's best for combat.
Only a few weapons actually combo well with the specialization

*L already regenerates fast so I do think a stim is necessary and might even be Overkill.
Heal B. Just needed to be longer, & mesh Shield never needed another Nerf S4 missed the mark on alot of balance changes I.M.O for example MP5 should have just had it's hit scan, or bullet velocity adjusted, same as they did to sniper in the same update, Engagement barley happens at 50 M so why nerf sniper if it was only a issue in power shift, there's like 4 barricades in the game to block sniper shots, AK didn't need to lose bullets, FCAR should be meta, MP5 being the only other automatic with a scope was nice.
However I do love the scopes.

[pliant glade]

i love getting hit by model dude and thinking what gun was that wtf where did that come from how did i take that much from that far, then rearing the corner running from it to get hit and killed by it to go ohhhh right, it's the fucking model rifle, i mean, shotgun, excuse me, see they're just so similar i get confused https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[ebon wing]

The worst world tour week event ever

[brittle obsidian]

gotta keep it around for all the model mains that'll be flipping burgers after it gets nerfed

[quick coyote]

God the performance on wt is horrible with alien invasion is laughably bad

[wide void]

@red echo @violet matrix Once again...

The only 2 reasons to use the CL-40 are that it 1. can do splash damage around cover and 2. is accurate regardless of how you move. Except the splash radius is tiny and falls off extremely quickly, and EVERY OTHER ranged weapon does more DPS and has faster TTKs.

CL-40 may have a lower skill floor, but it's not about "being unable to aim." It's about having a unique utility no other Medium gun has, pressure around corners. But still, it's so bad at that niche and at regular head-on fights that it hardly performs well even in lobbies where people cannot aim hitscan well. At high skill levels where people land headshots, CL-40 is completely overshadowed by every other gun, even when it used to do 117 damage.

There are plenty of counters. Take highground. Jumppad into the air. Rush into their face (160 self-damage per grenade). Snipe from range. Juke right as they shoot. Goo their face. APS. Or even simply make use of your faster TTKs. If you still can't adapt to it or otherwise just don't like fighting non-hitscan weapons, there are other games.

Complaining about CL-40 before Model 1887 (a weapon with a similarly low skill floor, similar fighting range, and similar mobility utility that does more DPS, kills in less shots, and DOESN'T do 160 self-damage) is really hard to understand.

[analog hearth]

nerf sword+dash

[wicked dove]

its pretty easy to take down a light that does that

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[solar stump]

Would be cool if you fixed the moving platforms. I don't hate them as defense and even points to take over. But cashouts on moving platforms are so hella bugged out that you sometimes can't physically take over the cashout. We teamwiped people in the last round, had 25 seconds even more actually, and all of us couldn't take over the cashout, we all got canceled not even halfway through

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic

[candid epoch]

As a grapple main and defender, grapple outclasses dash in almost every way. The one situation where dash is better is inside, close quarters and with no windows, and that's rare in this game. It's just that so many people still have a hard-on for dash from when it was much better in the earlier seasons that they just refuse to learn how to grapple correctly

[wide flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1299489568080527490/12131387_97486-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[quick coyote]

Give people who got 40k rp last season the diamond awards since thats how it is this season

[hazy shore]

instead of only banning cheaters for a week, you actually just ban them forever?

[drifting cape]

is there a way to disable buggy shift + enter shortcut?

[fast agate]

nerf model would be great

[rocky verge]

it aint the damage per second, but the damage per shot... and it hurrrrrrttttsss (as it should) just lower the range

[lunar comet]

good when you have a team

[shy parcel]

hide ranks in ranked lol

[viral stump]

Can we pleeeeease just change Power Shift to TDM. It almost instantly devolves into a Brawl with no one playing platform. Every. Single. Game. Sets me off because you can play the whole game, get to the last 20 seconds and THEN it turns into a coin flip who's gonna win the platform. This is a player base issue but the player base isn't gonna change so changing the mode would be great, cheers!

[brittle obsidian]

but its really funny

[frank gull]

Hear me out...
What if throwing knives "Scope" was an alternate knife
Cards get a king
Throwing knives get a kunai
shuriken can get another kind of shuriken
Personally offended that's silverware has a knife and not a spoon...
Humörful can get a pink, or yellow kunai
Spades get a heart
CDs can get a cassette 👀

Scissors IDEAs... 💡

[clever hawk]

Game is far too inaccessible & unfriendly to noobs. This is by far the greatest barrier to a bigger playerbase. The game presents itself as arcadey fun but is actually quite punishing & intricate.

The default Quickplay mode has 20+ second respawns on every single death that can easily extend to 40+ with a team wipe. What new player is remotely enjoying that?

Gigantic maps with unintuitive layouts. If they don’t use Dash/Grapple or Jump Pad/Zip they’ll spend half their time running. Difficult and frustrating to know how to get to many Cashouts within buildings.

Even bread & butter weapons like the AKM have much stronger recoil than in most FPS. This issue is compounded on console. I’ve spectated console players spasm erratically the moment they pull the trigger on an FCAR.

AFAIK consoles can’t even crossplay with one another. If they don’t want glacial queues they have to match with PC players. Input-based matchmaking is a necessity.

Low playerbase means matchmaking is loose which means it’s not uncommon for me to match with players with less than 20 wins whilst I have over 1,000.

This is exacerbated by the frustrating, cheesy aspects such as Stun Gun/Invisibility/Melee/etc which are guaranteed to absolutely dumpster newcomers when used by experienced players, whilst said newcomers have about one tenth of stuff unlocked.

To top it all off, performance can be dreadful which is a major red flag for new players.

The game is far too good for these issues to go unresolved. You are sat on a gold mine but have live TNT dangling over the entrance.

[glacial knot]

It would be nice if we could shot down the UFO ( alien space ship )

[jagged cedar]

you can

[wide void]

INSTANTLY IMPROVE YOUR GAME IN 5 VERY SIMPLE AND UNCONTROVERSIAL STEPS:

1. Allow players to TURN OFF TEMPORAL ANTI-ALIASING.
2. Allow EVERY WEAPON to be FULL-AUTO. It's not any more or less skillful, it just alleviates stress on the hands.
3. Allow the killfeed to show ALL kills/deaths, and allow us to see which players on which teams are still alive on-screen WITHOUT holding Tab to see the entire scoreboard. (Use Team Fortress 2 or Counter-Strike as a reference...)
4. Make the cashout timer 6 seconds shorter (or however long it takes to steal it) and make the timer NOT COMPLETE if you are in the middle of stealing it. This doesn't change anything about the actual mechanics of the gameplay except making it so putting multiple cashboxes into one cashout station is up to 6 seconds stricter. What this achieves is making the timer more intuitive and easier to read in the middle of gameplay. Now instead of the timer being completely meaningless to attackers in the last 6s of it ticking away, the timer still being active tells attackers that they still ACTUALLY have the opportunity to steal.
5. Let us switch themes/songs on the main menu. Your musician(s) went too hard for you to remove their work so quickly :(

[wicked dove]

take away the flamethrower please and here is a reason why if your in the range of the flamethrower it is impossible to kill the heavy that is hitting you and even if you do kill him you'll die by the fire damage no matter what

[limpid sky]

FIX YOUR SPAWNS STOP MAKING EVERY SINGLE TEAM SPAWN ON 1 CASHOUT pwease embark we love the work and feedback you listen to

[restive berry]

Can you please take away the fact that I get kicked for being AFK for what feels like less than a minute some times. I get on late at night when my baby is in bed, she wakes up, and by the time I get back from giving her a bottle of milk, I've been kicked.
I play in a three stack almost exclusively, but they get punished by having to res me when I come back. It makes no sense to me in a ranked environment. Sure in a casual quick cash, get the next guy in or whatever. Why does that carry over to ranked? Especially when I've queued in with them in a 3 stack. Please remove AFK timers from 3 stacks; that or give them the ability to vote kick in case it's a PUG on discord or something.

[versed cloud]

You're right, in ranked the afk timer should be much higher. It should still be there, but maybe quadruple it from what it is now. And vote to kick is also a good idea.

[runic slate]

I've advocated for your second point for a while. I think it was Destiny 2 that first did this in a game I've played and it's so much better. I'm not out here trying to get carpal tunnel with the V9S. And TAA is such a huge issue, too. I forget if it's baked-into the engine per se, but the ghosting at range or with high contrast surfaces is just brutal.

[hexed grove]

That's actually crazy

[lost talon]

letting controller players exist in the first place is a sin, he's just cheating a little bit more than the others

[wide void]

Thank you. Thankfully, TAA isn't baked into the engine, so they may one day add the option to disable it. I actually heard that you used to be able to disable it by tinkering around with the config files directly, but Embark fixed that. :(

[rough storm]

That's basic modelling for ya. Only way to counter it is to use Model 1887 yourself broski

[bold moth]

Make it so that as long as you've interacted with someone stealing a cashout, it counts as interruption
because as far as I can tell, it currently only tracks if you kill someone trying to steal a cashout
not if you shoot someone and they stop stealing, nor if you tase someone stealing

[torpid quarry]

1887 and 1900 too good plz do something embart

[woeful lagoon]

i really like the cl40 now, the self damage is balanced and you have an extra shot, which removes my problem with it, and you still need to aim

[quick coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/777572955654979608/1299756036890296501/caption.gif

[round hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-skeleton-bruh-gif-26457034

[analog hearth]

he makes two dashes, I don't even have time to look back as I'm already dead. What the hell is easy? Why are you talking such nonsense?

[azure tinsel]

I wish there was a replay system in the finals. I'm sure that with the amount of destruction the replay has to take in account of will be an issue in preformance and overall clarity but it would be such a treat to have.
Allows for more content creation or highlight reels, especially with added creativity in the finals highlights. Double as a good means of reporting cheaters. Too many people throw out accusations on a whim. Having this will allow players to even learn from others and more accurately report people

[viral stump]

ruining your fun or your ego?