👂┇game-feedback

[true harness]

I completely agree. We played all last night, and I feel like just dropping the game. I have the Battle Pass maxed, so there isn't a single avenue where I'm getting anything positive for less than a full tourney win.

[silent fog]

Which is the case in any team game...

[fervent vortex]

Yeah light is kinda rough rn, this vraic fuck prefers playing heavy claw over light rn lol

[lyric aurora]

I just need the different eyes to work with the ARCH RIVAL FACE. 😅

[spiral thorn]

i have defeated an opponent in the argument that an 1887 shouldnt do the damage it does at mid range and therefore needs a nerf, who dare challenges my argument anymore. i will face them in a dm to prove them wrong, if anyone beats me i will admit i was wrong to this channel, yet i believe anyone will..

[patent wind]

Hear me out. 1887 doesnt need a nerf everything else needs a buff. They hardly touched model over the seasons and the only reason its meta is because every other medium gun got nerfed into the ground

[trail turret]

Ok so because other games suffer from this issue it’s good? It’s ok? It shouldn’t be fix or addressed?

[brave copper]

Honestly I don't get why we made TA the ranked mode. Embark said it was to experiment with tournament rules but only started that 2 weeks ago, more than half way through the season. I kind of expected a different rule set per each biweekly event.

As someone who's been all in for the finals since betas, S3 feels like a complete failure. None of the expectation set- were met.

Communication from the devs has been at an all time low during the season of peak skepticism. Also, the servers feel like they've been downgraded. Lots of getting shot behind cover and other signs of desync this season.

Please don't cope Embark. Understand that this season is the worst so far by a long way. Make next season much much better or maybe the game really is cooked.

[rough herald]

just stuff that i wannt

• add a ui for how fast im going at the bottom of my crosshair (just speed number)
• Add kill cam
• Make spectator cam face through walls
• overwatch play of the game mayhaps? (it fit the game show theme perfectly)

@patent wind ineffective nerf yes, but it fck the user muscle memories so badly

[lament sluice]

Happy to report loading screen bug it's still not fixed XD

[peak moss]

Why am I getting paired with bronze and unranked people WHEN IM IN GOLD 3?!?! Are yall too simpleton to set up a basic matchmaking system? Gracious.

[dense willow]

nerf hammer 💀

[molten trail]

It can be fixed by asking two to play with u holy fk 😂 kids playing solo “ranked” and crying when he comes across a coordinated team how do you have a functional working brain

[dreamy mirage]

You would be surprised in Asia how common it is lol

[mossy tinsel]

one of the reason why many people use winch clew and hammer is heavy lmg are not good now
buff lmg

[patent wind]

Braindead take. Dash nerf hardly hurt the effectiveness of dash. You have 3 charges that constantly replenish. If it takes you more than 3-4 dashes to win a teamfight then that is a skill issue. Dash pick rates were just too high compared to the other movement: grapple. Hence the dash nerf and grapple buff

[vale acorn]

Grapple should get two charges or a shortened cooldown for up close grapples

[trail turret]

Who am I supposed to ask?
What if these two people are not available or want to play? Do I materialize more people? Do I take people hostage?
Not everyone is has friends with no responsibility in their lives and can get on a game whenever they want.

Why is it so far fetched of an idea that a game doesn’t incentivize stacking? People are going to do it regardless, there is no need to reward the behavior.

And again you don’t have an argument yet claim to have a working brain.

[limpid rampart]

hey guys, i just want to say, im about to play my 8th match of kyoto in a row

please lower the pick chance of this abyssmal, god awful map or i swear to god if i get it again im going to walk into a shopping mall and do something crazy

thanks

[gloomy idol]

Actually though
I got it 6 times in a row last night, and I literally downloaded the game yesterday

[pulsar cosmos]

I know the heavy serves a lot of purpose with its utility, but I would like to also have a decent gun that doesn't make me feel like a toddler aiming a fire hose... more vertical recoil is fine but having to battle side to side recoil and track horizontally/diagonally moving targets while doing that is a bit of a pain.

[dark terrace]

So, gonna be talking about the Riot Shield here, because as one of 5 players world wide that loves it, there's a lot of fixing needed to make it fun to play. I know there is already a bug thread for it, but it's been around 2 months since then so I wanted to make sure it's still on the radar.

As it stands currently, it is by far the most buggy primary in the entire game. I won't go over everything, because I legit don't have enough space, but I wanted to focus on some starting points that really impact the weapon that should be prioritized when it comes to fixes:

1- Pyro glitch

The Pyro Grenade sticking to the Riot Shield has been around since the OB, and I am surprised it's even still in the game at this point. Seeing as the shield is coded as a an neutral object such as a figurine or cashbox, I understand why it does so in the first place, but figurines with a pyro mine don't have fire following the player when they get revived anymore so I don't think it's out of line to have the Pyro Grenade not stick to you period. At the very least, switching to your gadget should make the puddle drop if it is an intentional feature, and should not be able to do enough damage to kill you twice over (which has happened to me in the past.)

2- Melee going through the Riot Shield

Melee attacks going through the shield has been around since around season 1, and has never been touched since. Ironically, what has killed me the most often when running the Riot Shield is a quick melee. This issue leads to a weird situation where going into Melee weapons usually results into a no win scenario, since you can't kill your opponent quickly enough and can't leverage your defense to have an increase in survivability.

3- Animation glitches

There's too many to count. Holding props, swinging and raising shield, inconsistent hit boxes, hit reg issues, there's a lot here that has been mentionned in the bug thread that anyone reading can look into.

[river flower]

Please is there any fix to this crash Message

LowLevelFatalError [File:.\Runtime/D3D12RHI/Private/D3D12Util.cpp] [Line: 955] hr failed at .\Runtime/D3D12RHI/Private/D3D12Resources.cpp:692 with error DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED with Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG

GPU Crash: Begin: Scene - DiffuseIndirectAndAO - DDGI Radiance Blend

KERNELBASE
Discovery

[thorn kelp]

Theoretically if all classes had a healing option, it would probably be a must pick for high elo games as well unless they make them super underpowered compared to the heal beam itself

[slim sun]

Map creator mode

[outer jetty]

Nerfed Nerd @dim pawn :

Sigma Males that didn't even feel a thing from the dash nerf: 😎 👍

[molten trail]

“YoU dOnT hAvE aN aRgUmEnT” dont think you even know what an argument is cuz i never had one in the first place im just giving u a braindead ez solution to go to #lfg-na-ranked 😂 or whatever region you use. So obvious youve never used an lfg chat. You dont make life long buddy pals, u dont make an org team and get it sponsored. Just go in lfg, ask for two to play with and add them and ur done. Stop being such a victim.

[unreal salmon]

i know its been said a million but the stun gun needs some sort of rework (like the glitch trap), it still encourages a rat playstyle and is (most of the time) unsatysfying on both ends. Another thing is its an instant cashout steal denial, meaning the player isnt encouraged to defend the cashout in combat but rather to stay hidden and simply stun whoever tries to steal.

[vale acorn]

The stun gun just feels like an easy kill gadget, it's gross

[sacred inlet]

Pleaseee add snowy weather as an option for all the maps! A deep snow mechanic would fit the game really well too!

[mortal ridge]

Clearly you weren't here for season 1

[small smelt]

As a content creator I would like to have one of the following options changed so that we can have more tools to create within the game.

• In the menu "Equipment" we can't hide the UI when inspecting weapons and animations but we can hide for model skins in other parts of the main menu.

• In practice map I can't hide the UI like I can in a real match with F12.

Me and some other content creators might be going into closed lobbies with friends or if they don't have anyone available, they will go into casuals and play with their guns while recording or taking screenshots for their content. The later will create some bad experience in-game for others...

[patent wind]

Dawg is so toxic lmao.

1. Never heard about it being balanced but okay
   2.Yes i play the game but once again okay

2. Level 5 dash, level 5 cloak, and like level 3-4 grapple

3. Xp is prob my highest level along with sniper m11 sword and dagger. (I dont really main one weapon)

[slender oasis]

I will complain another fucking day in a row: The grind to emerald should be G1 and above only with only the exception of the people you invite to play on your team with. I literally just had a fucking team8 that said "Relax it's just a game bro it's about fun" when I am LITERALLY trying to grind to the fucking top of emerald. I keep getting plagued with the lowest most casual fucking players that don't give a shit about playing the game properly it seems. If you wanted this to be a "competetive" feel you should've locked the Emerald players to a different pool or initiated some SBMM for fuck sakes. Some of us don't got friends on whenever we are on, nor do we wanna go thru the fucking grinding pain to find those team8s that probably ALSO won't be on to help enough (as has happened with me friending 100 fucking people they're barely on).
Also fuck off anyone else responding I don't fucking care what your dumb asses have to fucking say go fuck yourselves before you even hit that reply button tired of you dumbass monkeys responding to my shit I don't fucking care.

[next sleet]

Change that auto ping system, litterally I tried pointing a mine on the floor, there was nothing else in my view just at 80° to my left there was a B point, barely visible. Well when pinging the mine litterally dead CENTER of mine screen, my character starts pinging the Point thats basically completely away from my FOV. What is this crap, please just make it easy....

[echo panther]

i agree it gets very frustrating not winning the final round over and over and gaining nothing at the end playing for nothing at least give a little progress

[crystal umbra]

Alright, let's talk about a feature that I think the sweaties will love:

🔥🔥 "Leaderboard Shout-Outs": Day 2🔥🔥
I don't actually know what to call it but it will make more sense soon

TLDR:
-This is me suggesting a new "feature".
-Leaderboard names are now selectable.
-Upon selecting a name you see text displayed.
-The displayed text is "usernames" for their social media or streaming platforms.
-All contestants fill out a prompt (and can change it as needed).
-The "profiles" are only unlocked & visible upon reaching top 500.
-Effectively giving top 500 players a shout-out.
-Thus giving people more reason to compete for the top 500 spot, more content creators possibly wanting to play, more people interested in The finals content.
All completely voluntary

Let's imagine a world where being able to boot up The Finals and scroll through the LEADERBOARD with all of the top 500 ranked players, top 500 world tour players, or the top 500 "finalists". There I can select any of them and I open some sort of "profile".

In the future that profile will have things like a background, a contestant model showing how the (profile owner) is currently wearing his cosmetics. But (one of) the most important parts of that profile will be the display names.

Each of us, will have a prompt where we can voluntarily share our Twitch, our YouTube gaming, and whatever other handles to have them displayed for viewers - like me and you - to go and watch them play the finals or to watch their clips.

Only the top 500 players will be able to display this. What does that mean? Players seeking glory (clout) will be on a daily grind either trying to reach the top spot or to maintain it.

This - in my opinion - could create a positive feedback loop. A mixture of competition, a real world benefit, & content creators getting having even more reason to play The Finals.
Major W 🔥

It fits the theme so well. It's not hard to implement since it's just displaying text (until you guys decide to go all in on this idea and add a whole sick ass display screen with player models and backgrounds).

Instead of pretending you are a contestant displaying your skills for your fans. The Finals & Embark will finally promote the most skillful & loyal contestants.

Completely open to criticism on this one guys🙏🏾

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

[hard vine]

anyone been talking about the lewis gun animation from the store not fitting with the mini roulette skin??
It has the same quality and no design change except the magazine which has a inner stuff, you reload it out and in same way as default, it should be usable to any tbh

[stone hazel]

ive tried pinging stuff like enemies or mines and the game decided to ping literally nothing off in the distance out of bounds hundreds of meters away a full 90°+ away from where i was looking
and it's a little better now but for season two and a lot of season three it felt like ziplines were magnetic to pings
it didnt matter what you tried pinging it would somehow always hit a zipline

[lapis basin]

Struggling to have fun with this game…. Weapons are so weak. AK is hit marker city and flamethrowers and throwing knives hit the heaviest?

[velvet olive]

Team Fortress 2 or Rust collab would be nice 😃

[rapid stream]

Are you expecting valve to do anything with tf2

[rose zenith]

マルチディスプレイでゲームをやっています。
ボーダーレスウィンドウで設定しています。
途中でサブモニターに設定している方にFINALSの画面が移動してしまいます。
対策はありますでしょうか？

[tranquil galleon]

IDK, I would just look it up on steam forums er smth.

make sure u have the right monitor set to your main one also

[brittle obsidian]

this REEKS

[upper citrus]

maybe change your main display in windows settings? not sure

[trail turret]

Believe me, I know you never had an argument. Clearly you’re incapable of forming one.

And your “solution” of relying on a 3rd party platform, discord, does nothing for gamers who neither have a discord or want to use discord.

[molten trail]

What is there to form an argument about?? 😂

Then thats there problem. Its 2024 get with the times. If u have access to playing online then you also have access to resources to finding people to play with. Also dont need to use third party software u can just add randoms from ur games if youre that desperate and thats another solution. Cant believe im even having to tell someone this hve you ever just simply asked someone to play? You’re making such a huge baby fit over something so simple. Ur original comment was about yourself bching but now its a problem for everyone else? Ur literally using discord urself rn? Continue to solo and run into full stacks and cry i guess 🤷

[solemn fulcrum]

Sometimes when you connect to an ongoing Bank It game it won't let you spawn

[unique rune]

Try connecting to a tournament just to lose same time you join

[trail turret]

My original complaint was that emerald wasn’t their own lobby. Forcing solo players to play against 3 stacks sweating as hard as they can to get a win against players like me who are in silver.

That is like forcing a high school football team to face off against an nfl team.

How about putting 3 stacks in their own lobby?
Give solos, and maybe duos, their own lobby.
How about not incentivizing or rewarding 3 stacks? People do that anyway. Why reward them with xp bonuses etc?
Reward solo players , with small bonuses, for willing to challenge themselves more?

“aDd RaNDomS” what if they don’t accept. Your “solutions” don’t help.

I want to fundamentally change how these types of games work.
Again people who stack will always stack. What reward or incentivize it?
And I only got on to discord to post about this problem, and it is a problem, and hopefully bring this to the attention of the devs. Otherwise I do not use this stupid app.

[dusk mica]

Input based matchmaking

[rapid pike]

Cashout Steal alert should be wayy more visible. Sometimes it feels like the alert sound didn't play at all.

[marble prawn]

maybe add a powershift ranked mode ?

[pastel ravine]

flamethrower is the dumbest thing how it is hitting me for so long after

[inland maple]

nerf turret

[molten trail]

You realize that emerald only lobbies would take a long time to form, right? Its such a tiny % of the games population. And you act like every team you come up against is a sweaty triple stack when its not, youre just copping lil guy. I play solo 90% of the time and yea i do come across sweaty stacks but not often. And i dont instantly run to discord to cry about it 😂. If you were to play right now compared to very late in the night it will feel very different.

They cant give own lobbies to solos and duos. Look at the playercount. Its shit.

If they dont accept u then try again with others. Not everything is going to go your way. Ive played with lots of people from games i had a good time with. Add them, invite, done. You dont even need to talk. Stop being such a lil bitch and pretending these solutions dont work when you clearly dont even try. They do work. All this energy you put into crying in this chat could have been spent finding people to play with.

[vale acorn]

I thought it was gonna be a prestigious tier of battles like destiny 2 trials of osiris

[true harness]

I'm starting to think, more and more, that Emerald needs to be switched to just require really high amounts of tourney points, as opposed to tourney wins. It genuinely sucks playing for 30-45 minutes with literally nothing to show for it.

[fathom aurora]

playing for emerald with randoms and expecting to progress its just dumb and frustrating, not everyone has all day to play and friends with no life to play with

[cosmic zodiac]

Medium shotgun needs emergency nerf

[crystal umbra]

-Stun Gun
-Rocket Launcher
-Defib + Heals
+Mines

What do these all have in common?:

They are all instant unfun bottons.

Each class has something up their sleeve that is super powerful and meta defining.

While I do see what you are saying, each class has ways to get easy kills.

"If everything is overpowered then nothing is overpowered".

Winch + rocket will 1shot a light
Stun + XP makes kills easy af
Defib + heals = instant unfun button.
+++Mines and consistent ranged damage.

In general each class has it's own super strong setup. It is what it is

The real issue is that the finals makes so many fun ways to play with how the game is made. It allows you to put classes, weapons, gadgets, and specializations together in a puzzle piece kinda way.

Some people may have an idea on a way to play the game but it's more on the creative/fun side.

But then that's are the "meta worriers" that only get on video games to win and don't care about fun creative ways to play unless it gets them wins - these folks will be added to the mix no matter what.

Now we see the issue: there is a meta and there always will be. But the folks who are casuals are getting stepped on by the players who are sweaties.

This game - by Nature - is competitive, but unfortunately some folks are not as competitive as others. The casuals are hitting their heads against a brick wall trying to make their "creative" class work against the "meta" players and they are coming in here complaining.

+were not going to talk about the fact that teams of 3 have an obvious advantage too.
+And there is always going to be some people with CRONIC SKILL ISSUE

But, this is another nuanced perspective that I hoped to point out

(Not like anybody is going to read this BS anyways🤌🏾)

[dull mirage]

"The casuals are hitting their heads against a brick wall trying to make their "creative" class work against the "meta" players and they are coming in here complaining."

The problem with this is that the "casuals" you're mentioning, the "creative" players you're mentioning are the exact people using those un-creative unfun items, 90% of the mediums in this game run defib or heals if not both, 90% of heavies run rpg, and so on. The truth is that the majority of players are using these unfun things it's not a matter of sweats vs causals, for some reason 90% of the playerbase refuses to use something that isn't winning them games instantly and then complain when another calsses uqivalent of those items is used on them

[trail turret]

Again. I’ll be sure to ask my boss for time off work to play a video game at optimal times.
Idk maybe you’re a useless pos that gets to roll out of bed late and immediately get on a game.

And the lobby could be gold and about along with gold and silver mixed stacks.

And if you don’t usually come across sweaty 3 stacks that says a lot about your mmr/sbmm

[molten trail]

Ive been to diamond both seasons so continue being a victim doggy 😛

[proper schooner]

Is the servers down atm? or is it just for me?

[vale acorn]

As someone who plays light the most then heavy and med the least, I really don't mind the rpg and the mines, they feel like a necessary counter to the skirmishers. RPG leaves you on deaths door requiring a follow up damage but now you have free movement to dodge if possible, with the heavy taking increased damage up close. With mines the medium has to have more game sense when taking placement into consideration, has to deal with an arm time.

Light vs light encounters are soured by the stun gun. It takes too much agency away in my opinion. In the same manner why people hated Mei and Sombra. They should rework it, make it like a glitch grenade that lasts longer but nulling movement and hindering aim speed just feels a crutch.

But maybe a necessary one if crossplay is going to exist.

[buoyant helm]

THIS STUPID PIECE OF SHIT CRASHED AGAIN

[high wing]

this game has big cheating problem again, can you just perm ban all cheaters pls?

[silver jewel]

rip me well looks like i have a pain in the neck of a challenge

[rose zenith]

That setting is done. Thank you for thinking about it.

[crystal umbra]

🗣️IM SO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT'S COMING NEXT SEASON ‼️‼️

[brittle perch]

nerf xp-54 and TK. either buff light sniper to 125dmg or add a sniper to medium that does more than the lights.

[sleek lintel]

sniper buff 🤡

[slender marsh]

the sniper should rather be removed entirely than to receive a buff, it doesnt fit the game at all

[last swift]

Sniper bullet drop or the breathing/focus mechanic from other games

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-6533142189269812111

[tired bough]

whole lobby plays model 1887, maybe it is time to nerf that shit? Also I love how enemy can hook me through 2 walls, very nice

[cold bolt]

maybe it's time to make the ak and fcar worth using again literally nothing has been touched about shotty since game came out, it's everything else on medium that got weaker

[smoky gust]

Thats the thing though

I dont want to use these kinds of items
I want to experiment
But if i dont run them, i will be steamrolled by those that do
And since i use it, now they seem obligated to use theirs

Its a toxic feedback loop that makes the game less fun

If these items werent so incredibly opressive, people could actually use other stuff without fear of being viewed as throwing or handicapping themselves

[granite agate]

Y’all seen the red zipline ropes? This means embark can give us colored zip lines for medium’s ziplines

[bright oasis]

bring the special back

[proper schooner]

But it is just throwing or handicapping yourself if you use "Non meta items" you can always play powershift or other quick play gamemodes if you wanna have fun and try out new things.

[trail turret]

Than I’ve probably already had you on my team because I’ve had some worthless diamonds lately.

[molten trail]

still cry 😭 victim doggy 😛

[nova solar]

||sledgehammer||

[cold plaza]

no just buff everythinh else

[night vortex]

Just give everyone an extra 50 health and call it good.

[twin venture]

Experincing a lot of "waiting for contestants" and then server timeout.. 3. time i get suspended because of that...

[burnt notch]

it might be just cuz the wifi in europe is ass, but im gettin this bug a lot more often now.
https://outplayed.tv/media/LE5LnM

[rose zenith]

It is set as the main monitor in Windows settings.
But I don't know because it's never happened to me in other games. 😦

[buoyant helm]

I've just started match WITHOUT ANY WEAPONS AT ALL! DEVS, HOW ARE YOUR MOMS DOING?

[brittle perch]

there is no "support class" unless you make your character to be a support. any class can be a support class or can be more combat focused. there is no reason why mediums weapons shouldnt be just as powerful as other classes.

[dull mirage]

I get it, I do, but I just don't like when people try and act like only a small percentage of the player base are ruining the game using these shityy op items, the truth is its the majority of players, if more people were just okay with the concewpt of not using the absolute most best loadout at all times, the game would be in a better spot. However, players can will optimize the fun out of anything they touch, it has and will always be like that so its up to Embark to actually nerf the items that show up in >80% of loadouts, like one of my favorite things abt this game is that there are items have litterally been spammed in every loadout since the beginning of the games inception, barely changed

[timber vessel]

The game desperately needs an instant reswpawn mode. I’d look into 5v5 hardpoint it might even be a great 5v5 ranked mode especially if you pair it up with terminal attack and powershift 🧠🧐

[crystal umbra]

Suggested glitch grenade buff:

I wanna be able to chuck that bitch. Full send. Litterally Lazer beam throw it at an enemy shield. Effectively making it more accurate.

Also, the swap times. Can we cut that in half? I'm talking about the time it takes to have it become "throwable" and the time it takes to swap back to primary weapon.

Please consider this quality of life change.

[sharp estuary]

Please, fix the Riot Shield Bugs: It can't block light sword, sledgehammer and quick melee...

[trail turret]

What about it?

[misty jasper]

he did not. he doesn’t read your argument so I wouldn’t dm this kid. he just grasps at straws when you present anything logical. “i have defeated an opponent” nerd ass. Zyphxrg goes into an argument without basic knowledge of the game and will waste your time. 0/10 would not answer his dm again. I repeat my arguments bc you keep asking me what my argument is since you couldn’t comprehend it yourself

[paper oak]

bug, light classes can now face stab, remove it.

[spiral thorn]

this man failed to win an argument and is now beefing with me, he has dissed and whined like a child and yet says im the idiot whilst managing to be wrong in everyway, he likes to repeat the same argument that has no relevance to the point, and then decide that he will agree with ur statement and proceed to stil deny that he is wrong. He comes up with false claims to defend himself and suggest his thoughts that are factually inaccurate and just provide evidence to u that suggest u r correct, arguing with him is like discussing with a parrot, they will tell u what u said but squawk at u anyway, childish and idiotic.

[quick coyote]

they can't, they never could

[velvet olive]

how do you think the devs with use this information?

[lament talon]

first time loading up the finals since 2 months

I even reconnected and the match closed because someone else left -> Suspension alright not touching it again for 3 months

[smoky gust]

They arent always what i like to play
And even in those modes the other items can still be very disruptive

@dull mirage
Oh, yeah, that wasnt my intention
These items are absolutely everywhere, and not without reason either

Another way to think about this whole thing
You can always stop using something underpowered, but you cant stop an enemy from using something op

You can try and have fun with different stuff and combos, but you will likely just be flattened because the enemy doesnt care

The rare matches where i dont constantly get winched, rpg'd and my kills denied by defib are incredible
Its just sad how rare those matches actually are

I hope we see some nerfs soon

[echo latch]

good game yes

[upper citrus]

No, actually, medium is listed as a support in it’s description as well as the channel description of this discord. It is also very clearly designed as a support class. It should not have weapons that are as strong as the model

[sacred inlet]

Please Devs! Add snowy weather to the maps! A deep snow mechanic would also fit the game so well!

[dull mirage]

@smoky gust dw i knew that wasn't what u were trying to say mostly the original guy. It's honestly rlly sad cuz this game has the potential to be played like such a unique sandbox experience but most people and content creators never let themselves play it like that, i feel its part of the reason for why it hasn't blown up like crazy

[rapid stream]

uhmmmm how about we don't bring wallhacks back into the game that would be pretty neat i think

[brittle perch]

ok, but i dont give a shit if its listed as a support or not. any class can be a support, thats my point. heavy has dome and mesh shield, used for support. and lights have the invisibility bomb and breach charges to blow up walls, used for support.

[worn hull]

Way too many wins for emerald

[buoyant helm]

JUST CRASHED AGAIN! Into your moms, devs ❤️

[bright oasis]

sad lol

[night vortex]

I understand what you’re saying with it being a support, and that the model is overtuned. The class still needs to be able to defend itself effectively. The holy trinity of and mmo doesn’t work that well in the speed of this game. Right now the model is being overused because often the mediums need to it fight on an even level. It’s kind of similar to the RPG and winch being necessary for the heavy in a lot of cases because they don’t have a lot of options that feel viable.

[crystal umbra]

Heavy:
"Bear Trap"
-Slight to moderate damage upon activation
-Completely halts movement movement for a short duration
+Variation: Inhibits movement for a split second but causes slowed movement that returnes to normal over time

Medium:
"Gravity bomb"
-Throwable that unleases a litteral black hole that pulls characters (and maybe debris) into a singularity then repels them at the end of the explosion
-Maybe allowed to do slight damage upon detonation?

Light class
"Repulser Bomb"
-Throwable variant: Throws a device that sticks to a surface and waits for proximity detonation
Deployable variant: plants a device that can be activated manually or shot to detonate (like a C4 of breach charge)
-Both variants have high knockback and little or no damage.

Thanks for the consideration🚀

[paper oak]

buff medium class

[wooden atlas]

A few balancing requests for the devs:

• Please consider giving the M11 a slight nerf—specifically reducing the effective range. It kills insanely fast even from across the room. I would rather have such low TTK limited to point-blank ranges like the SH1900 (which is quite balanced IMO).
• I and many others would like to see throwing knives get an ammo and reload mechanic, as well as the ability to hold the alt-fire and release to throw the double knife instantly.
• Flamethrower and MGL need functional alt-fires instead of just a little zoom-in. For flamer I could see a mechanic that splashes fire on the ground at a cost of some ammo. For MGL I was thinking the alt-fire would be a grenade that detonates on first impact and deals high arena damage but low contestant damage.
• Please increase the damage on flamethrower to lower TTK. For balance purposes, a smaller ammo pool or one that drains faster wouldn’t hurt.
• Change SR-84 to leave ADS in order to operate the bolt between shots.
• Increase attack speed and hitbox size on riot shield; also make it block melee attacks more consistently
• PLEASE do something about the CL-40, which is currently not worth using at all. I would like to see a return to 110 damage per shot at the cost of lower rate of fire.

And a couple of QoL requests:

• On sword, please add a UI/HUD indicator to show that a lunge has been fully charged, and/or change the audio cue to something more noticeable
• Please improve the sensitivity on dematerializer. Currently there is a tiny delay between selecting and using the specialization, which makes it extremely clunky to use.

Thanks!

[earnest pilot]

We need Input based Matchmaking

[spiral thorn]

who tf is in the wrong here, i give up on arguing with them... I repeatedly counter argued yet they fail to take in any information

[molten trail]

you wanna increase the damage of a weapon that takes no skill and you dont even need to aim? nah

[upper citrus]

yes.. every class has team utility in the team based class shooter, id hope so. one class is very obviously focused on it though.

@night vortex yes the power of heavy and medium needs to be shifted around a lot. the classes dont necessarily need net nerfs or buffs but their power needs to be shifted to lean towards their intended strengths

[lapis basin]

What is the point of the 93R?…… useless addition

[deep summit]

Day 244 of asking for Skill Based Match Making and an Anti Cheat that can detect DMA

[proper schooner]

I would like to see some buffs soon instead.. Like the sniper actually hitting and the map not being so rough looking. Its very hard to see enemys from a long range. I would like to see the throwing knife buffed too, hear me out, they can shoot like 50 feet. You are just dead long before you have a chance to shoot them.

[restive crescent]

im a competitive player, but 75 wins to get emerald 1? its wayy to much, watch emerald akm be more rare than top 500 ruby akm lmao

[thorn kelp]

QOL Feedback: I'd like there to be a togglable setting where instead of holding the action button to revive teammates/steal the cashout, you just tap the button and the rest of the revive sequence/cashout stealing will continue

This could be a console only setting 🤷🏾‍♂️

[fiery patio]

Crossplay was a mistake @median hamlet That is BS and you know it. Stop it. It should have always been the other way round by default -that you can ENABLE it.

[median hamlet]

You can always disable it

[finite wind]

bring back team whipe 30%

[crisp solstice]

hell no

[brittle perch]

nerf xp-54 and throwing knives. also botti hell no

[umbral crypt]

does anybody have a problem with the team colors in world tour? i think the reddish color is too close to being inbetween pink and orange more so pink but i mistake it for a different team a lot if im not looking at the top left

[loud gust]

kill the people who use xp54 and throwing knives (nerf it please)

[molten trail]

triple defib heal beam needs a srs nerf

[paper oak]

nerf knives too broken , for stupid players no skill, hiding with cloaks as losers

[bitter aspen]

light needs healing hence why you see this

[serene rune]

You should be able to copy and paste loadouts

[sonic wigeon]

FIX THE DELAY THAT OCCURS ON SOME SERVERS, ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY WITH THROWING KNIFES WHEN IT KICKS IN, FCKING SHIT

[maiden helm]

Did they really think i would be satisfied with 10% money loss when teams get 30% profit just for starting the cash out?

[brittle perch]

buff sniper from 115 to 125 dmg. also you deserve the delay Gurrapurra cuz you use throwing knives.(Nerf tk and XP 54 plz)

[young smelt]

I am crashing significantly less after this last update.

[misty jasper]

no one cares. regardless you’re wrong. your math especially. “it can 2 shot a medium w 6 chances to do so” when it has 6 bullets. dumb af. Stop wasting everyones time.
Plus half the points you posted that I said were ones that I had to bring up bc YOU asked stupid questions, such as why does the 1887 do more dmg than the magnum with a body shot. Smfh

he said has 6 tries to 2 shot a medium. that would be 12 bullets @rugged temple

[rugged temple]

It can 2 shot a medium and has 6 rounds tho

[loud gust]

can we please nerf light class into the ground and get some opinions on the weapons from non glazers please on the light weapons

[turbid citrus]

Why did I (gold 1) fell in a game with top 17 world in WT ? Fix your MMR before releasing new skins or other shitty TA ranked

[crisp solstice]

pls pls ad a good weapon for heavy i would actually use it if it had a decent weapon but they all suck

[nova solar]

🤤

[echo panther]

Something needs to BE done With the emerald progression system like get one Point For reaching the Finals and 2 For winning otherwise this will take way too long

[molten trail]

triple defib heal beam is the most busted thing ive ever seen in a fps game.

[wicked glade]

Feel like forcing teams in WT to having to be one of each class would solve all the class stacking and forces people to actually have a plan besides just play the best class in the current meta also nerf XP range

[solar plover]

120fps for PS5 please 🙏

[cosmic narwhal]

can there be a way to talk to other players? and i mean when not in a party or same team, there has been so many times i wanted to talk to someone else. and not just shit talking i promise

[timber vessel]

Potential buff to the burst pistol for light:
Make it dual wield
This would change the playstyle from a long range option which no one really cares to pick up to a close range option that can rival the M11
I think it would make it alot more fun to use. Rn i dont think anything you do to the burst pistol will make me pick it over the V95 but if you make it dual wield than i can see myself using it alot more. Something to think about.

[tame crag]

9 matches of Terminal Attack is an impossible challenge I think. Out of 6 matches I’ve only had one that progressed past the first round. That means 54 matches of TA before this challenge is complete

[trail turret]

Sounds like you need to get your little triple stack butt buddies to heal beam defib and quit bitching

[storm inlet]

when will we have a balance update ??? tk is dumb, claw is dumb, please balance update soon please

[molten trail]

won 5 tourney wins solo so far today? also ur still cry LOOOOL such a victim 😂 😂 😂

[loud trellis]

Please nerf triple med/and or the models. It is very un fun and has no outplay potential, the model has insane range and insane damage, combined with healing beams and defibs, as well as superb movement options I feel like it is not enjoyable to verse.

[stable path]

they could add a system if a whole team is one class, they earn less money and if a team has a mix of classes, they get more

[jagged cedar]

Triple heal defib is a kd padder, these teams have next to no ability to apply pressure. Just get a heavy to walk through them

[analog hearth]

and how much fps is on ps5 now?👀

[stark notch]

just keep replying to this person using AI and call it a day.

[potent solar]

if you have enough weapon currency to do an unlock you should be able to unlock that weapon during the brief loadout selection screen at the start of a round. this would help new players.

also why in the world did you not unlock everything for the big streamers playing twitch rivals? your rigid adherence to rules kills any fun before it starts

[solar plover]

60fps

[south viper]

Another day of begging for throwing knives to have a stamina system

[sonic wigeon]

BAN CHEATERS THEY HAVE COME BACK

[cobalt shuttle]

Please boost dx11's performance on The Finals, dx12 simply causes crashes all the time and even today's patch didn't fix it. DX11 doesn't cause any crashes but sometimes there are some stutters which I believe you guys would be able to fix it.

[night vortex]

This channel has to be the least helpful thing for the devs. It makes me laugh all the time. Half of it is unhinged rants, the other half is people arguing back and forth against nerfing or buffing whatever weapon/gadget. It’s wild.

[echo urchin]

Anyone else feel like groups of six are helping each other get through world tour?

[hallow grove]

WE SHOULD NOT BE PENALIZED IF PUT INTO A TOURNAMENT AND LEAVING BECAUSE WE DIDNT HAVE A TM8! THATS NOT OUR FAULT

[fresh shell]

Throwing barrely in thin corridors is near impossible. They just drop.

[trail turret]

Oh you won games during the time period you said it was easier to play at? It must be nice to play games when most people are at their jobs.
And your complaints don’t make you a victim? So you’re just a hypocrite then? Noted.

[molten trail]

not reading still 😂 so much cry LOOOOL 🤣

[analog hearth]

it's really low for this game. 75 fps on my pc is not enough for me to hit fast targets

[dull quarry]

Ngl, qualifying twice and playing for 40 minutes only to lose and that round is completely wasted is frustrating. I feel the emerald ranks should be done differently, give 1 point for the final round and maybe 2 for winning
That way you dont go completely empty handed out of a 40 minute game and there is at least some sort of progression.

I get why it's wins but i feel it doesn't really mix well with you having to reach gold 1 and you're at least always kind of progressing even if you only qualify once.

Trying to get anything emerald is a miserable experience if you dont have a team you can consistently play with and on top of that theres not even proper matchmaking to support solo queuers.

What i'm saying goes on deaf ears anyways but oh well. It is what it is

[loud gust]

nerf throwing knives m11 and xp54

[proven venture]

they added them back in this recent patch dude 💀
they said they were going to experiment with the gamemode so let them do their thing. you can't expect perfection the first time, if the old cash out didn't align with their vision then give them time to do so

[lunar dove]

anyone getting a bug where your screen just goes black until you die, randomly? happened to me 3 times in my last tourny

[misty jay]

Give everyone a refund of RS for every point they've lost to BANNED cheaters, and also take away any RS gained from playing with BANNED cheaters

[stark notch]

interesting they separated the two. it's probably their way to fix the terrible matchmaking

however, you can bring non gold 1s into your emerald lobbies or vice versa based on who is hosting...

[unkempt holly]

Heavy Changes (Necessary)

Health to 450
Speed modifier x2.5
Quick Melee DMG x4
Quick Melee adds stun effect (12s)
Heavy cannot be damaged from the side or back
Free Togglable Invis ability on every specialization
X-ray vision (Lights Only)
Aura buff to Mediums (+100 health, +50% DMG)
Add Map Voting (Heavy votes=1, Med votes=.5, Light votes=.01)
+10 Multibucks per match played as Heavy

This can save The Finals

[cold plaza]

WE NEED THIS

[jovial socket]

a little change, specifies what gun i need to finish one mission/contract, i don´t wanna trying with each gun

[slender anchor]

Hello, can you please let us customize the mouse sensitivity (With a number like other games do). The 100 cap its too low for me and my mouse cant change its dpi.

[red minnow]

Add the feature to rename our contestants, Ive been thinking about it since season 1 and am surprised its never been added yet

[molten trail]

i stopped reading at health to 450 bruh nvr cook again 💀 this has to be a troll 😂

@rugged temple wow i shud have read it. multibucks per game as heavy? yes plz

[rugged temple]

Wdym these are genuinely good changes

[floral thorn]

Yeah, but still doesnt find a game in any of them now because players are divided between both queues

[sacred glacier]

is finals 1v1v1 back

[quick coyote]

they do tho?

[thorn kelp]

Pretty...pretty please add a toggle to steal or revive teammates 🙏

[hardy portal]

everytime I boot this game I question why I didnt just play rocket league

[rough storm]

damnnn, chain + flamethrower ppl are so skilled, much wow, great gamers! their parents wuld be proud

[supple tapir]

Won 8 games in a row of ranked terminal only to gain 1,800 rs all together

[umbral dock]

Ranked TA sucks, remove it and bring back ranked cashout

[tall kernel]

It’s not separated.. it’s all the same. You’re not going against just emeralds or gold 1s. You can go against people in any rank. They specified this.

[candid crystal]

The RS is NOT accurate on win/lose. We are 80k difference on qin/loss when really we are 20k.

[sudden tangle]

The competitive cashout changes are very good! Good work on them. Giving incentive to cash in makes the game more predictable, less RNG, and more competitive. It makes the games run smoother. People fight over real objectives rather than nobody really wanting to make the first move and putting themselves at a disadvantage.

The 10% loss on wipe doesn't cause for too much change. It makes it so good teams don't get punished for a third party or a single mistake. Yet, it still allows for the classic The Finals tension when everyone is really close to each other in score and you're hunting down a team to qualify.

500$ per kill aids the above point a lot and makes getting kills actually feel meaningful. I might even increase this number to 600-700$, but not sure.

Well done! @pearl kiln and everyone at Embark, you are cooking.

Now all we need is an actual ranked mode with MMR, meaningful rewards (skins, borders, reload animations, icons, animated sprays etc.), and decent matchmaking.

GG Embark!

[fathom glacier]

super fun wasting an entire hour doing a tourny to get killed by cheaters in the finals who are shooting me through walls

[novel flax]

Please bring back solo bank it to private matches

[quick coyote]

Throwing knives are overtuned. Add some kind of jumping accuracy falloff. The fact that they can just hop around, with unlimited ammo, doing the damage it does is stupid. Embark has done an incredible job of making some of the least fun things to play against. Cloak sucks, stun sucks, winch sucks, rpg sucks. These are just crutches. EZ buttons because you fucked up or will fuck up

[steep imp]

Regarding Emerald ranks (not my post but I tend to agree with the sentiment that points should be given for every round that you win) https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1enk6pr/emerald_1_is_unattainable/

[charred seal]

Embark please stand by what you say if the Emerald mode is for Gold 1 only then y am I have silver and bronze players in my team. Why u change sides last minute man

[keen siren]

PLEASE fix the calculations for throwables, nades land nowhere near exact to the throwing line... My nade hit a wall rather than traversing along the line with enough space around it for the edges of the nade to not hit. It should make impact exactly where the endpoint as paths should be what that indicates...

[runic quarry]

120 fps PS5 pls 🥹

[north frost]

I just want unlimited full auto RPG and I'll be happy

[final root]

I just won a tournament and I am not emerald 1 wtf devs

[cedar jolt]

Make Emerald grind be points and not tournament wins. As it is there is too little time left in season for so much grind.
What I'd recommend is a system where you get points depending your placement, winning tournaments would still make it faster obviously.

• Make a 1500 points grind, where a full tournament victory gives you 20 points, so you still need a worth of 75 wins.
• But add it so winning a round earns you 5 points and earning 2 rounds earns you 10 points.
• You still get double points by winning but at least you don't waste your time by winning a round or two.
• You can adjust the amount of grind required by adjusting total points.
• If would make players still progress slowly/require grind but not like they are wasting their time.

[red raft]

I need these glasses as a cosmetic so I can complete my fit. https://tenor.com/view/oh-agent-smith-hugo-weaving-the-matrix-interesting-gif-22197056

[unkempt holly]

YES

[slender oasis]

Need to fix input glitches. Randomly in a tourney my enter button went from a "open chat" to a "change screen resolution" input, very unwelcoming and I daresay costed me the entire tourney win bc my dumb team8s needed a bit of criticizing for stupid plays they did. (feedback welcomed pertaining to my post issue, otherwise fuck off)

[molten trail]

buff defib to insta revive teammates to full hp + another 50 hp on top. also make them invincible for the next ten seconds. theyre just not good enough. also rpg damage needs to be increased, id recommend blowing up the entire map every shot so whoever shoots their rpg first wins the match.

[jade inlet]

If the winch catches me but then is going through a wall it should break

[untold locust]

Increase the MGL32 AOE based on the same percentage other explosive weapons got, 5 damage is a joke for a grenade.

[fiery patio]

Every game on console feels like getting cheated on. Whether that is true or desync, hardware diff, server issues and so on - it doesn't matter. Thats what it feels like. Very rarely does it feel like getting outskilled, but instead getting scammed because of the random BS mentioned. And that's for invested hardcore gamers. Normies have (currently) no place in this game. Zero. It's not even on xbox top50 mostplayed list. And it's so sad when it is the most advanced shooter, best looking, most innovative, best customization. All that fades away when you're second class citizen on console. Yes aim assist was too strong and unfair at launch - but so is crossplay. The reason the dino games like apex and fortnite still dominate is because they value their console playerbase.

[solid pine]

i dont know if that would be possible without an ultra performance preset. prolly low settings and 1080P or something

[cosmic ether]

I ENDORSE THIS

[potent solar]

please replace the stun gun with 'goochie-goochie-goo' tickle hands

[sonic spoke]

Then you lost it all in 1 round?

Emerald should only be against emerald eligible players. (I am not gold 1 yet)

[thorn kelp]

Overwatch is calling you 🗣🔥

[sweet isle]

Add a timeout to the vaultsssssssssss! Dumb devs can't fix them from spawning UNDER groooooooooound.

[restive crescent]

make emerald 1 less wins, arround 50 or emerald akm will be more rare than a ruby akm.

[supple tapir]

And when I lose a game, just one,I lose 1,100+… don’t make sense

[abstract coyote]

We need like a 7 second kill cam to show off our skill to other players and to also identify cheaters or decent players making it easier to make reporting more accurate. That is all.

[analog pewter]

WHEN YOU GET 30MIN BANNED BECAUSE THE GAME CRASHED ON THE LOADING SCREEN AND YOU EVEN RECONNECTED AND WATCHED THE MATCH END AT ROUND 1

[north frost]

I think what would be very hard to do, because of the destruction, it has to be server sided so it stays synced with all players, a kill cam would need to recreate the destruction as it was at the moment he killed you, which I'm not sure if a server can do that kind of multitasking

[quick coyote]

Reaching the finals as gold 1 should give you 1 point toward progression. Winning should give you 2

[proven ibex]

Seoul vaults and cashouts spawns must be reworked like other maps. They spawn very close to each other and leading to third parties, other maps are good though.

I realised Emerald is definitely not for SoloQs, playing hours without single win after Gold1 making me feel miserable. I think I'm done for now. Best of luck for full stacks.

[zealous schooner]

[jade inlet]

stop killing people when they dc

[fickle oracle]

Alien Invasion has a low sense of presence. Why not transform it into a "PvPvE" event?

[patent wind]

i agree. Retro invasion and alien invasion arent too special. They just deal destruction which meteor showers and orbital lasers already do

[agile jacinth]

Embark does not respect their customer's time - this grind is ridiculous

[analog hearth]

Yep, I wrote about this as soon as the update came out. Right now the ranking emerald is just a waste of time.

[north frost]

Is anyone else experiencing server lag? It takes long to log in and matches have insane desync and lag

[molten heart]

Sandstorm Vegas needs to be disabled until they fix the cash box dropping beneath the sand.

[brisk garden]

just put us back in season 2 man that was fun. this ranked TA, casual world tour, participation trophy leaderboard/world tour "rank" is all bullshit

[wet dew]

Add an earthquake event or something

[lament surge]

GENERAL

• Remove the Taser Gun (it has no place in a competitive shooting game; it’s frustrating, rewards bad players, and overpowers skilled players excessively).
• Adjust cashout rewards to be equivalent to the time spent defending it. For example: if you deposit it and receive 3k, the remaining 7k should be distributed based on the percentage of time you held it. So, if you hold a cashout for 1 minute, you should get 3.5k. If you steal from a team and hold it for 30 seconds, you get 1.750k. This adjustment would significantly reduce the third-party problem, making it much less frustrating and rewarding both the defending and attacking teams. The third-party would still exist in the game, but it would be fairer to both teams. If this doesn't work as intended, consider combining it with reducing kill rewards to 250 as well.
• Set the Team Wipe Penalty to 20%; it’s the optimal "sweet spot."
• To address the issue with healing beam and defib spam: A team with 3 mediums should be limited to only one healing beam and one defib per team. Alternatively, the cooldown of Healing Beam and Defib could be shared among teammates, so even if three players have them, they can only use them when available to all three. Alongside nerfing some of Heavy's kit, this would encourage a Heavy-Medium-Light team composition, making the game more fun and dynamic. Imagine a lobby with 4 teams of H-M-L; this would be peak The Finals.
• Nerf: Bow, XP-54.
• Nerf animation canceling on multiple weapons, especially the Light Sword (a light player can easily wipe an entire team with almost one hit per enemy due to RMB + DASH + LMB + MELEE cancel, which is excessive).
• Nerf Throwing Knives. The lack of reload and no damage falloff is excessive. Killing a medium with 2 headshots is unreasonable. This rewards bad players with a broken weapon and overpowers decent/good players, making the game unfun for others.

FIX/BUFFS:

• Fix FCAR recoil; it has been over-nerfed. Horizontal Recoil? Really?
• Fix CL-40; it has been over-nerfed. Good balancing would be 2 extra grenades before reloading.
• Buff Lewis and M60;
• Winch Claw should have a 0.5–1s interval before you're allowed to shoot someone after successfully hooking; this would balance the Winch Claw and the SA1216 as well.
• Buff APS Turret, but don't allow it on Power Shift.
• Don’t allow Mesh Shield on Power Shift.
• Buff: R .357, 93 R, Thermal Vision, Anti-Gravity Cube, Smoke Grenade, KS-23 (increase ammo capacity to 8 and reduce by half the number of bullets needed to break surfaces).

[lapis basin]

Mediums need a Semtex and Frag grenade option………

[real scroll]

doing 250 damage to a heavy just for them to rpg u is not fun in terminal attack. Please nerf that weapon for that gamemode.

[topaz ledge]

heavy shields (dome, mesh) shouldnt block grenades, right now, heavies have multiple damage-canceling toggles that they can use without penalty.

[quick coyote]

PLEASE FIX THE SPAWNS IN TOURNAMENT. THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE SINCE SEASON 1.

IN THE FINAL ROUND, a team can wait when an enemy team is wiped till they respawn to put the cash box in.This causes the enemy team to have to walk sometimes 250 METERS TO THE CASHOUT. By the time you get there, it’s already nearly 30-40% complete.

Also, There is no reason why a team defending an objective should spawn over 150m away after losing a single fight, or spawn next to a different point if two teams are already fighting. Give defenders more than one shot at defending their objective, especially if they were third partied

[molten trail]

just had a fight i got twenty fking kills on a team and they all kept triple defib heal beaming. plz fking remove this

[lament heron]

There are issues from the begining which is still part of the game and pain in the ass to deal with 1: can’t shoot after reloading. Some people also call this ‘reload bug’ it can be happen with any weapon or gadget or even ability. 2: doors can sometimes randomly open and close back. You never know if there was an invis light or it’s just the game. 3: stealing or resing someone can be so buggy next to a broken wall. Many times a wall push people just a cm but it stops the stealing

[modest bison]

Why does the riot shield blocking not count towards the master circuit progress?

[lament surge]

QUALITY OF LIFE:

• "Quick Cash" should be prominently advertised or shown immediately after you click on Play in the menu. It's the main mode of the game, and new players shouldn’t have to navigate through multiple menus to find what makes "The Finals", hm well.. The Finals.
• Allow players to buy small amounts of Multibucks with credits. For example, allow 3000 credits to purchase 10 Multibucks. This would encourage players and provide a casual "grind" aspect, making the game more rewarding. It would also help players in countries with weaker currencies.
• Weapon skins are too expensive. Skins costing 800 Multibucks should be reduced to 400, and those costing 400 should be reduced to 200, and so on. I'm sure looking at your stats you will see very few people spend in Weapon Skins, this should increase your profit.
• We desperately need more contestant slots; 20 should be sufficient. This would require a simple UI rework. Additionally, add the option to "Duplicate" a set so players only need to update the new outfit, not every weapon, charm, animation, expression, emote, etc.
• For casual players: We need more seasonal fun game modes, like those from Season 1 and Season 2 (Winter Event, The Heist Event, Easter Hunt Event and the Black and White event ~~what was the name?).
Other ideas include "Only Melees," "Only Shotguns," more map variants, and Game Show Events.
• Emerald WT grind should reward 2 points for 1st place and 1 point for 2nd place.

FINAL COMMENTS:

Please, for the next season, get rid of Terminal Attack. That game mode does not represent what this game is trying to achieve and is a waste of potential. All the investment at the beginning of Season 3 went to waste with this mode. Many of my friends started playing at the beginning of Season 3 without me knowing. A few weeks later, when I invited them to play Cashout with me, they told me they had no idea Cashout existed and that it was much better than Terminal Attack ("CS-like mode," in their words), which was heavily advertised for Season 3.

Please consider paying big streamers to promote the game at the launch of Season 4. I promise it will pay off with new players coming in, buying skins, and purchasing the battle pass. This will be incredibly beneficial for the game and for Embark.

[peak ember]

Hi. I am very upset that the Lewis Gun Animations set is not compatible with the Mini Roulette skin. I wouldn't be so irritated had that been disclaimed somewhere in the discription at least! It would be cool to have my Multibucks refunded, orrrr add it in a future patch. Please and thank you!

[sonic spoke]

Same with receipt ak.

[unborn garnet]

i think if wt teammates fully leave the match with no rejoin/new tm8 then the disadvantaged team should recieve quicker cooldown gadgets or quicker reload or more damage on their weapons, or quicker respawn time

[hidden flame]

This

[solemn fulcrum]

FCAR horisontal recoil can stay, just make the overall pattern more consistent. Kinda dumb how XP is better in everything than FCAR including recoil control.

Lewis and M60 are more than viable, just need a bit of less aggressive recoil.

R .357 is viable, if it's gonna be buffed, then half the headshot damage and add actual recoil cuz now it doesn't have any.

[cosmic zodiac]

30 minute ban for leaving a match (where everyone is spamming grenade launchers and flame throwers) is comical

[fathom escarp]

I think in casual you should not be allowed to queue again until after the match has ended if you leave. If you got banned for leaving a match, of any kind, it was deserved.

[quick coyote]

GIVE US 1 POINT TOWARDS EMERALD FOR REACHING THE FINALS, AND TWO FOR WINNING.

[molten trail]

💯

[twilit torrent]

Hi embark, in the last 2 days of next season can you add a sapphire rank? It should take 2000 wins to get to, so that only the most hardcore cashout players can achieve it🔥

[misty hare]

I was thinking the exact same thing today. Def need to add this in.

[charred seal]

How much games we need to win for Emerald 1 is it 70-75 or more?

[crystal umbra]

I'm off the finals for the night. I had two consecutive matches with leavers. I also had a thrower in a match. And it seems alot of folks are level 60 without knowing how to play the game.

I can't keep this up.

Seems we need some sort of "time played" based SBMM should be considered for world tour (this probably won't be necessary since we hope cashout will come back to ranked)

Leavers are annoying...

I'm itching for a new game mode that preferably has:
-Low respawn times
-Slayer focused
-A "condensed" map

Id like to play this game without having to rely on my team mates all the time. (No, I do not play power shift or bank-It and I guess that's my problem?)

I would like a creative Embark spin on HardPoint.
It's objective based while also having plenty of kills.

Whatever the case is, cashout can get frustrating sometimes.

[violet elbow]

The 70 win requirement for emerald 1 is fine and you shouldnt get participation rewards for making it to final round, the currently system for Emerald is good.

having something good Players can actually grind for is healthy and this game needed that, considering ranked this season is just dead in the water

[real scroll]

genuine question, is winch claw hit scan?

[lament surge]

No, it got travel time

[rough herald]

^^^ but it also have linger hit box
(as in the hit box is always on the model and only appear and disappear with the model)

[quick coyote]

GIVE US 1 POINT TOWARDS EMERALD FOR REACHING THE FINALS, AND TWO FOR WINNING.

Especially with 48 days left in the season. Not all of us competitive players spend 90% of our days playing the finals. Neither do we stream.

[worn tapir]

delete ta

[flint bone]

Please change task/quest - 15 stop cashout . For me it's stop on 3/15. And if i kill 5-10 players - quest don't work =((

[misty hare]

I agree a little bit. I've put in quite a few hours and am still at 11. Players usually don't let you kill them when stealing, they just stop to shoot back so it doesn't count.

[glacial sierra]

ability to rotate your squad mates woudl be cool in lobby.

also - ability to inspect other players' setups from social screens or whatever would be both cool and a money spinner for y'all. sometimes you see a cool skin or whatever and want to know what it is. if it's a closed beta thing, groovy, if it's something i can buy.. maybe i'll buy it. the longer the game is out and the more skins become available the more difficult it will be to pinpoint what someone has equipped.

[real scroll]

bet thanks

[twilit torrent]

One slight problem with that. Some people have jobs/school and can't spend 5 hours a day playing the finals. Emerald is way too hard to get for anyone who 1. Doesn't have much free time, or 2. Didn't start grinding WT the second the season launched. Many people are upset because they want the rewards but just don't have the time to grind to emerald.

[violet elbow]

you can hit Emerald 1 with 2 hours a day and a 50% winrate, it just takes 35 days for all the 70 wins.

and you have 50.

[dusk elm]

I 100% agree with this. I know it defeats the whole purpose of it being a challenge, but since there's very little time left in the season, it's going to be an absolute rough grind. Only being able to gain points by winning a tournament is unmotivating, especially when you get to the final round and lose, giving you no progress at all. It also just punishes people who solo queue.

I feel like the win points for winning rounds should have just stayed for earning emerald rank.

[lapis basin]

So team mate rages and disconnects…. And I get a 2hr ban for leaving the game 5 minutes later? What a fucking joke.

[night vortex]

I don’t even have enough time in my week to complete gold at the rate I’m going.

[sturdy holly]

Would love to see a new customization catergory called "eye wear". Which separates out glasses and face masks so we could equip both. Of course there is the "gun smoke bandana" which has both but would be cool if we could mix and match further with more options. The menpo face mask is my favourite option atm but i would love to combo it with the new dissun relay specs or other glasses. Of course clipping could be an issue and only the half face options would work but having the extra layer of customization would be cool. Would also most likely open up more options to be worth purchasing.

[real scroll]

I know they just added this change but the light dash opening doors has a glitch where you get kinda get stuck on he door when you dash into it

[rough herald]

dose it look the same as the door stuck bug?

[near oyster]

to anyone having trouble with the 15 cash out stops, use the taser. it counts as a stop.

[quick coyote]

Haven’t seen anyone defending the current emerald grind that doesn’t have a twitch link in their bio lol

[twilit torrent]

Assuming each team was equal skill, you would win 1/8 entire tournaments (8 teams)

Each game takes about 15 minutes, keep that in mind.

Let's calculate the time per win.
First round- 50% chance of winning -15mins
Second round- 50% chance of winning - 15mins
Final round- 50% chance- 15mins
So of our 8 rounds, 4 get KOed in first round -1H
4 move on to second round, and 2 of those get KOed in the second round. -1H (15mins for first round, 15mins for second)
2 move on to the finals. You spent 45 minutes on each of those by the time the final round is over. -1.5H

Ok, so we've concluded that it takes about 3 Hours and 30 Minutes for each win. Wonderful.

Now lets break down the rest.

70 wins = 245 hours (70*3.5)
next we can simply divide 245 with the amount of days we have to complete this, which is 50.

245/50 = 4.9 Hours.

For the 50 days left of the season, you would need to play 5 hours a day to get emerald one by the end of the season.
Keep in mind this is while fighting the best players in your region, and assuming that you hit gold one before emerald launched.

I'm all for things that reward players who are good at the game, but playing 5 fucking hours a day for 50 days straight is batshit insane. If you hit emerald 1 by the end of the season, I have a few words for you: get a job and do something with your life. (unless you're a content creator/streamer, then ig playing the finals IS your job.)

Also insanely funny that my original 5 hours prediction was actually right.

holy fuck can this skul dude get a life ong

RESPONDING TO SKUL I also win most of my games, I'm just pointing out the math for the average player with a skill set that matches the people that they're playing against.

I also love that your response is quite literally "to win a bunch of games, just win more games"

you shouldn't have to nolife this game for a stupid ass akm skin.
anyway argument over I won. Womp womp

[cosmic sedge]

it's ok not everyone needs to get emerald only those who actually care enough to play that much 😂

[violet elbow]

there is no seperate emerald queue to begin with, you Match any given world tour player, if you cant hold a high winrate against absolute bots then idk what to tell you, emerald not being a participation award is a good thing.

Ive literally won 7/11 games so far, that means im 1/10 done after barely 5 hours of play in 2 days without even a Weekend, its not that hard

[crystal umbra]

Good point:

In overwatch there is a feature in ranked where a timer activates if you loose team mates. You have the option to voluntarily leave early without risk of a ban if you wait for that timer to wind down.

I think this should be in the new ranked tournament next season. (Or whenever ranked cashout returns)

-Or alternatively-

There should be an extra penalty for the first person to leave the match (that isn't a disconnect) & a reduced penalty for players who stick around to the end of the match.

[quick coyote]

why is there no timeout function to TA for DC or crashed players or just in general

Ngl it seems like an oversite

[wooden holly]

i have a little request that might make easier the life for every one who use reload utilities, it would be so nice when the cold down is over get the utility reloaded like the bazooka, i would like have my focus on the battle and not have to remember reload every time i select it then swap to the main gun

[fringe hatch]

Yeah I feel like at least reaching the final round could give half a point or something. Literally played 10 good tournaments yesterday reaching at least 4/5 times the final round but unfortunately ended in a loss. I feel like I wasted time and I’m 3/10 just to reach emerald 4. Hope they change something soon

[molten trail]

triple heal beam defib 🤡

[merry creek]

I know the devs said at the start they weren't going to do a content road map as they didn't want to make promises they can't deliver... but feel the small player base that's left need something to be excited about, and you need to convince those who left its worth returning

[quick coyote]

Can we all just appreciate the fact that embark didn’t ban Russian slurs in the text chat. I would love to help with that if only I could

[sullen sleet]

I'm so tired of 5000 damage 50 meters plus. No fights are 50 meters and sniper light causes consistent losses, if I want to win with sniper I need to fight with my team

[wooden vapor]

Emerald 1 feels near impossible to reach, you could spend hours reaching the finals only to lose the last round many times and its not fun or rewarding.

[hallow nimbus]

maybe they should reward us with more multibucks to spend on clothes give us something worth fighting for

[hollow barn]

Embark!. Add the possibility of placing more than 1 sticker on our weapons and gadgets!!!. PLS.

[uncut goblet]

The game sometimes resets the video/graphic settings to epic when starting the game! Seen other talk about this as well as

[rough herald]

happen every update

@simple parrot no one would tip anyone, i think a better idea is to have a badge level
like a drip badge, mvp badge, endorsment badge, thing like that

[violet elbow]

just dont be dogshit, idk what to tell you man, not everything needs to be a participation reward

[simple parrot]

I think it would be cool if The Finals had an honor system where at the end of each game where you can decide who was MVP and tip them any amount of money from the money you've collected over the seasons

[quick coyote]

something needs to be done about lights instantly dashing out of the winch claw

[obsidian cargo]

GIVE US 1 POINT TOWARDS EMERALD FOR REACHING THE FINALS, AND TWO FOR WINNING.

[regal cairn]

problems with starting the game btw my friend cant start it in general its the ue5 discovery problem again and some other stuff

[twilit sonnet]

Please make a way to earn past circuit/contract/event items for those who’ve missed out on them.

This would give an incentive for those who’ve just started playing The Finals or those who didn’t get to finish completing them during that time period.

Since they’re free items vs the paid battle pass items they won’t cause any cause any problems.

Choose the item you want to work forwards and these can be earned via contracts or exp.

For Holiday items these can return via their respective Holiday since it makes sense during those times.

Thank you for your time!

[cerulean flower]

Two things:

• 1 - The Bonus XP doesnt really feel enough atm something like 15% & 20% makes a lot more sense imo
• 2 - The yellow botton you see on the popup after clicking the XP Icon should not say "Interaction" but rather "Invite Friend" or "Create party"

[jagged cedar]

the new cashout changes have made the gamemode 10x better and more competitive

[spiral thorn]

this man keeps going, he cant accept that his views are inaccurate and the lack of research and information presented shows how little he can argue. pls refrain from arguing with him any further. If u do u will likely lose a couple braincells in the process.

[mint sage]

The first 3 weapon skins we get in battle passes should be universal

[sinful snow]

you're literally in the wrong

[upbeat urchin]

anyone has a breakdown of the wins needed per emerald level ?

[potent solar]

increasing cash per kills and a 10% wipe penalty while good, still kinda contribute to 3rd partying. at first I was for a stiffer penalty but how about a different direction:

in order to focus on the cashout I would reduce the cashout steal timer (<= 5 sec), give a greater reward for steals, and give a periodic cash only while you hold it. I think doing this you would need to reduce respawn timers as well.

[eternal kayak]

Allow players caught by wench to get a jump boost when jumping out of it at a the right time. This will make it a skillful escape and change wench from insta kill to something that can be countered and the kill has to be earned.

[rough herald]

i'd rather the hook make me grounded so i can mind game jumping or crouching tbh
skill player will hit the jump window all the time in your idea

[real scroll]

nah its more like you get glitched backwards when you dashed into a closed door (like sometimes you have to dash into it twice)

[broken rapids]

go just do it on powershift tbh, its like 3-4 games max

[lean wyvern]

Buff CL-40 please, just an overall damage increase, ranges are fine. Also how about a water bomb skin.

[cerulean flower]

the red bandanda head accessory has clipping issues with the ninja robe face accessory (at least on Heavy)

[bright owl]

Does anyone else have had tournament wins not count towards emerald rank up?

[upbeat urchin]

need more bullets too, at least 6 total would make it viable

Also why is the weapon XP screen never showing after a game anymore? I liked it in S1 but since S2 I never see the post match XP for my weapons, anyone else has that issue ?

[rough herald]

i would like more reload speed then more bullet tbh

[simple parrot]

oh that would be neat too, but you know what would you do with all the money you've collected over time have a special store for redeeming the cash for cool skins?

[north beacon]

hotfix causing game crash？

[verbal lintel]

10% wipe penalty is gooooood

[autumn summit]

10% wipe penalty is genuinely awful

[dusk lake]

It doesnt get past initialising easy anticheat

[fringe hatch]

20% the sweet point. Honesty 10 is useless so many games with teams 1-3 place with 30k+ makes no sense

[unkempt ibex]

yes it does

[lean wyvern]

I think neither is really necessary, both just turn it more into a regular weapon and take some of the uniqueness. It should be high burst if you can hit your shot and not just a spam weapon imo

[blissful smelt]

the Sniper Rifle is absolutely too weak. I headshotted a H stoling a cashout FROM 3 METERS and it was still alive. Its mate comes and frag me during the reload animation.
That weapon need some scaling on short range, where it can kill

[gaunt flare]

3.8.1 broke the game?
Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION 0x00007ffc29000001

runtime
kernel32
ntdll

[echo panther]

please rework the emerald progressionsystem to make it so you gain progress even when not winning the final round

i didnt say it should be easy or optainable for everyone im just saying u should play and even when not winning the full tournament u should gain something like gaining a point for reaching the finals and 2 for winning otherwise it will lead for a lot of player to get burned out because theyre not progressing and wasting theyre time its important that the finals keeps a sustained playerbase otherwise ur emerald skin wont do anything if you cant play the game anymore

[violet elbow]

just leave the Emerald progression as is, not everyone needs to obtain everything and not everything has to be a participation trophy.

making emerald easy to get just devalues the gemstone skins, they are supposed to be rewards for time/skill investment

[hallow nimbus]

i got the same thing... ;-; how does one fix

[charred seal]

Why are my team mates bronze for emerald mode Embark you said Gold 1 stay true to your word man.

[rough herald]

what ever dude, i just want cl40 buff, that gun is my fav bro

[oblique swallow]

This whole season myself and even the teammates I’m playing with keep on getting infinite loading screens every 1 every 6 rounds that forces us to restart

[wise jolt]

just had a game of world tour and the game didnt get past vault4 because everyone is just brainrot team deathmatching.

[real scroll]

the light shotgun is so inconsistent, one shot will do 100 damage and the next (same shot) will do 10

[jolly fulcrum]

Why is it every parch makes the game a buggier mess?

[tawny prawn]

bc the devs are too busy with unreasonable balancing "issues" and not the literal gameplay issues occurring

[untold locust]

Seriously figure something out with these default skin, no playtime accounts dropping hella kills with way too high k/d.
It shouldn't be that hard to figure something out when we pay you to sit around and do something about it.

[wise pine]

YES

[dusk lake]

IM just thinking maybe the problem is to do with nvidia graphics cards? iidk let me know what you think

[lilac frost]

8 months and still hasnt even added just a gamemode that prevents class stacking... leave it to nexon to squander a game with such great potential

[cunning bough]

Make it so you can change the background music in settings I liked the of better

[reef lotus]

Dear Embark please test your updates before sending them out 😐

[novel lily]

Remove Low Gravity on power shift, its shit, and it makes it way harder to avoid already existing problems, like whenever you go on a jump pad, you have way more time in the air and snipers will take advantage of that. Its also a pain when theres ten seconds left in a game and your trying to get the platform but the jump pad you go on to get out of spawn flings you 500 metres into the air and ends up losing you the match

[unkempt ibex]

really good take

[mossy horizon]

The value of depositing a cashbox needs to be reduced. Maybe change it to rewarding cash over time as others have suggested?

Right now the best strategy being used by top players is to plug a cashbox and then abdandon the cashout and try to get the other plug as well. I don’t think you should be incentivized to abdandon your cashout especially with virtually no wipe penalty.

[young star]

After update i have issue that i cant aim, crouch, sprint or even jump it happened second time after first death in game. Anyone have same issue ?

[upbeat urchin]

if you do that what's the point of stealing a cashout if there's nothing left in it? I think now its is a lot more balanced actually. you just need to play smart and put the boxes in

[covert vessel]

He's not wrong though, my friend stopped playing this season when he experienced the new system, it just turns into a frustrating experience. Even past ranked seasons had you gain points if you got to the final round (if you weren't like top 100)

[lone obsidian]

Most shotguns fire multiple pellets with a spread pattern (ads doesn’t affect spread) that means for max damage per shot you need to hit as many pellets on target as possible. As there’s no headshot modifier you want to aim as centred on the body as you can for max damage per shot

[lean wyvern]

Lmao me too, I'm still playing with it haha

[feral bloom]

I have an idea how about Finals Crosshair creator in game that way anyone and us console fellas can create crosshairs

[terse lark]

nerf rpg player damage to 90-100

[crisp coral]

Nerf the fucking flamethrower now its way too op requires 0 skill to use and does 68 damage after your have hit it what a joke

[dull flume]

hey. I had an issue 2 days ago. I was in loading screen for match start and get into it. And after 15-20 seconds when I was mid fight I thought my game crashes but it puts me back into loading screen before match. I was added into a new team and restartet another match

[livid tiger]

Same here. Feels like it’s been around forever now but it’s definitely happening more often

[real scroll]

i would love if reports actually did something bc I have had people wall hacking in my game, and I have had teammates throwing the game on purpose. Embark rly have to get rid of some of these losers. Also I don't think embark understands how easily it is to get away with cheats such as wall hacks in a game that doesn't have kill cams

[small dawn]

Please add bank it to ranked. It’s the most high stakes mode on the game yet no ranked.

[tribal ruin]

crashed

[late raft]

I said it once and i’ll say it again. You should not lose any RS if you have less than 5 players at the end of your ranked terminal game

[vivid socket]

best hotfix ever got a polaroid for my sniper floating in my face after changing weapons

[quick coyote]

TAAU resolution scale is always lower each time i start the game, i need to slide down and up to 100% to fix it

[pastel pond]

After the new update I cannot open the game with these crash info

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION 0x00007ff940600001

runtime
kernel32
ntdll

[plush fjord]

true enough. there are good enough options, but what im asking for is guns. flamethrower is one. wbu lewis and m60. those are the classics. make them better in some way atl. and then things abt lights like tk and m11 are the worst

[novel lily]

Delete the flamethrower. Fuck all them Console kids, shouldve gotten a computer if they wanted to play

[crisp aspen]

Same on my side

[midnight aurora]

Modifiers are supposed to make the game harder. That's the whole point. Maybe don't use a jump pad if you know you won't land in time

[cunning bough]

What if the cash out wouldn’t actually cash out while a player is stealing allowing last minute saves.

[rough herald]

Modifiers are not made to make the game harder, it's made to make the game more interesting
and low grav is more annoying then interesting so it need changes

[hollow badger]

buff flamethrower, its literary the worst

[fluid raptor]

give light a faster vault and ladder climb time. i'd also love a new movement based ability that adds walljumps and maybe a temporary speed increase for prettymuch everything movement related 😘

[wise jolt]

emerald be frustrating alreadyt

[hot shard]

Guys I feel a bit slow but I have an issue since the start of season 3 I guess. When I have my secondary weapon/gadget in hands then start carrying anything including cashboxes and try to attach to a zipline, quite often I drop what I carry.

[signal mica]

I think invis should make you lose your weapon and allow you to run faster without without the static audio queue but the decloak isn't immediate and also has an audio queue

[polar ermine]

Give people the ability to swap 1 gadget per knockout round upon death in Cashout. It's a little redundant to have a counter to certain things but no way of utilizing it. An example would be Goo-Gun + Sledge, I could take my trophy system but I can't because I can't swap to it but I do have it in my back up gadgets but I can't get to it and I don't know I need it until I'm already in-game with that annoying egregious strat being played against me. Just 1 swap, no gun swaping, no special, just 1 gadget

[minor nebula]

@turbid citrus same problem no ?

[turbid citrus]

Yes exactly, as well as others 😔

[pastel ravine]

fix the flamethrower it should not be burning for so long afterwards

[jaunty juniper]

It should. LET IT ALL BURN.

[misty jasper]

So apparently the AKM and FCAR don’t have a higher fire rate and range than the 1887?
“Spray from far” poor guy prob doesn’t know how to control recoil.

[rough herald]

@misty jasper @spiral thorn you know you can talk anywhere else without dealing with the 30min cool down right?

[inland cove]

Lights and especialy sniper is feeling so oppressive when playing heavy it is not fun anymore.
none of my weapons have enough range to fight them.
I dont have any movement tools to get to them.
My shield gets instantly disabled by glitch nade.
My barier gets destroyed by thermal bore.
Goo gets set on fire and burns me.
And at close range i just get stungunned and executed. Or back-stabbed from the from the front (and no that is not server or ping issue that is just a broken mechanic).
The only thing that levels the playing field is RPG witch has a ridiculous 45 second cooldown. :(

[dreamy ore]

YOU REALLY NEED TO FIX THE BALANCE ON light class. 9 players using light in Bank it.!!! come on

[wise jolt]

sounds like classic power shift

[lapis dust]

Anyone else feels overwhelmed with world tour, emerald, ruby being added? Was so simple with just Diamond and Diamond 4 being enough to get the rewards.

[cobalt shuttle]

Please boost dx11's performance on The Finals, dx12 simply causes crashes all the time and even today's patch didn't fix it. DX11 doesn't cause any crashes but sometimes there are some stutters which I believe you guys would be able to fix it.

[digital sinew]

we really need some new weapons in the next season 🤔
i like the idea of heavy duel pistols with a jetpack with short distances bursts 😅
and u can get inspired by the Titan game mode from BF https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Titan_(Game_Mode)
the idea of two or more stages to win a match

[wise jolt]

NO, Just frustrated that i have to win entire tourneys with randoms

[limber notch]

This would be a rather low priority thing but please give us an "Equip to all" button for talismans

[rough herald]

and people will say JuSt GeT a DuO lol

[fading flame]

Is anyone else getting frame rate issues? I installed THE FINALS stats and that could have done it, but also this has only been happening since the new update. Edit: Didn't change anything.

[jaunty juniper]

Ranked matchmaking is so annoying. Half the time I get matched up with absolute newbies who have no clue how the coins work and can't aim for ***** in silver 2

[dapper geode]

I've noticed a bug where I can't shoot sometimes.. Had it hadden to teammates as well. Anyone know how to fix it?

[mellow igloo]

true that specially in terminal attack the lights (sniper specially) have been such a bis, unable to counter them even in medium build

[untold locust]

Scale MGL32 AOE values equal to other explosives; it's still indirectly nerfed from AOE "increase".
Not to mention the gun is useless unless used in a very specific way

[dreamy ore]

at least don't make it instantly destroy mines

[crisp coral]

Ye that is so annoying makes mines useless

[kind swallow]

20 headshots with marksman rifles?!! had 8 with sniper rifle and the number hasnt even moved?! bugged challenge!?

[empty violet]

MMM/LLL/HHH or similar matchup balance idea:

increase the cooldown of the gadgets/specialization by 30% by each of the same specialization/gadget on the same team.

wanna play MMM? ok, deal with the drawback. wanna play HML? enjoy the natural balance of the game

[inland cove]

that would just make the game more toxic in chat. because ppl get a drawback for playing with randoms

[turbid citrus]

Flamethrower is too OP, one shouldn't be able to clean a whole team of 3 in one single mag
Neither should it be able to deal damage for so long after his death

Flames can pass through so much things too..

[deep summit]

Day 245 of asking for Skill Based Match Making and an Anti Cheat that can detect DMA

[sacred glacier]

take away team wipe

[quick coyote]

It’s balanced since the range is very short and it leaves you vulnerable if yur getting cleaned by a flamethrower you shud fix yur own team not the weapon

[vapid fable]

You've made this game so beyond tedious with ranks and "win points". You've continue to degrade what was once the core game mode, refused to balance classes, killed any incentive to play as a team.

Maybe it's Nexon's influence, maybe it's Embark itself, I couldn't say; but I'm tired of waiting for the game I enjoyed to come back. It's not worth my investment, because it's evident you aren't invested in the players.

[abstract coyote]

We need a theater mode of the last match to be able to making reporting more accurate and to tell a good player apart from a wall/aim bot cheats.

[vapid pawn]

did they change the daily reset timer? normal by now i have new dailys but i says now still9 hours left 😦

[quartz shell]

people with light swords should be louder

[upper citrus]

This game is incredibly CPU intensive. My 5600X had trouble running this game and it would dip to as low as 40fps and was extremely stuttery. Only when I upgraded to a 5700X3D did I get any good results.

I think there is a large amount of players who are turned away by the hardware demands of the game. Having a team dedicated to working on optimization would do wonders for the game imo

[twilit torrent]

You’re completely missing the point. Even with an optimistic 1/4 or 1/3 win rate in solo que, you would still be investing 2.5 hrs every day into solely world tour. I could absolutely get that, but my teamates are pretty much never online, and I have better things to do with my life, unlike you

[violet elbow]

nah im just not dogshit at the game and need 200+ games to win 70

[wise jolt]

Spawns are still ridiculous. spawning 200 meters away from last cashout is just stupid

[regal depot]

anyone know why my video settings get reset to epic after every game launch??

[rough herald]

it happen every update

[grim herald]

Hello!
I drank my Ospuse for this!

Regarding thermal vision, If an invisible contestant aims at you from high ground you can't see him while thermal vision is on. Apparently you need a background to be seen with thermal. Is that on purpose? If the sky is behind the invisible player vs a wall or they are inside there's just no way to see them they're still invisible

[azure tinsel]

I feel like allowing that could open up a really toxic play style. Enabling heavies to attack allies if they feel like it. Not the best way to go about it

[crisp dragon]

As a Heavy, a Medium or a Light, nothing feels more oppressive than a Heavy with a winch claw.
-It pulls you through floors, walls and cashouts. (i have a clip of 1 going through a broken wall, a cashout, and my heavy friend to pull me off a steal)
-The range seems to change based on feelings. 15m? 25m? roll the dice and find out! -
-HvH and you have your enemy down to 1 bar hp? too bad! you cant even melee him coz you stunned by the winch! Yay!
-Glitch traps and grenades? Don't stop him using his winch!

• Mesh shield/dome? goes right on through!
  -Throw down goo? If he "threw" his hook before sight was broken you get pulled riiiight on through it!

[daring fossil]

a number of my bug reports have been deleted but none of the bugs they were reporting have been fixed. Looks pretty bad that these bugs still haven't been fixed for months, but looks even worse that my reports are being deleted without comments or the issues being fixed.

[cosmic ether]

Flamethrower is literally weak sauce and relies heavily on environment. Kiting + headshots are effective counters, spear, sledge, mines, grenades (except gas grenades), any mid to long range weapon will sort a flamethrower heavy out pretty effectively. If I am maining flamethrower, I will literally choose where I want to fight. The weapon isn't OP, perhaps your strategy could just use some work.

[twilit torrent]

I said in solo que. my winrate is like 3/4 with my teamates. Unfortunately they have lives unlike people like you so they aren’t always on

Responding to skul btw

[drifting thistle]

1 hit kunai 60 damage, fire rate same as revolver but 2 bullet at once, no need reload. Sound op

[abstract coyote]

Yes but you can already do that with pyro grenades and no one is toxic with that. So would be just fine and if they become toxic to the team player will result in them loosing the match which no one wants.

And ppl that respond to other ppls ideas means nothing bc it’s up to the devs to decide not a random player potentially defending what you run in the game. So respond how you want doesn’t bother me all as it’s up to the devs. Hints “Game Feedback” not “player to player Feedback” #🥊┇fair-play

[buoyant helm]

EACH SECOND GAME CRASHES, NICE!

[vapid fulcrum]

if i get 150-200fps in valorant, how much should i get in this game?

[daring fossil]

half that, valorant uses low res textures and simple geometry and was designed to run on potatoes.

@winged sparrow games been going down hill since launch wdym, emerald rank did nothing, it's not even a proper ranked mode

[winged sparrow]

Anybody else feel the game has gown downhill ever since emerald rank was introduced? feel it's impossible to get a win and get past the 1st round although used to win WAY more

[lapis dust]

Das what I said earlier! Nowadays I login, look at the modes and feel overwhelmed and just exit the game.

[tribal shard]

Can we stop having contracts that force you to play and deal a lot of damage with shitty unfun weapons?

Please add official support for linux.
No need, the game runs fine on Linux 95% of the time. Though it would be cool to fix some EAC instabilities

[wispy locust]

i hate the new wt point system why is ıt wins not how far u get in the tournament you can go the whole game and then loose in the final round and u dont get anything so u basicly loose 30 mins. also 70 wins required to get emerald 1 ???? thats way to much i need to get 2 wins every day and i still have the chance to not get anything because i didnt win the final round. WT doesnt require skill it just requires time some people doesnt have that noo mather how good i play i just wont have enough time to win 70 matches. also 10 percent on team wipe is nothing why so what if i got team wiped i loose like 1k anyways. the percentage u loose should increase with tthe amount of money u have.

[quick coyote]

Please add official support for linux.

[uneven rampart]

Let's make a petition to make Red Panda pet into the game! Everyone should have their own Menace on their shoulder!!!

[marble prawn]

no one ever fills in after team leaves in ranked ??

[misty jasper]

gaming has always been time consuming..the finals is one of the few games that doesn’t take multiple years to get something you want imo

[harsh torrent]

Matchmaking still shit as fuck, quitted a month ago just to come back to fuck update that fix nothing

[cosmic ether]

I think the devs appreciate a good discussion either way. You will only want this until this happens to be your team sustaining the loss. Then you'll end up here asking the devs to revert it because you presented a cack-handed idea and now you hate it.

[tribal shard]

• Throwing knives are perfectly balanced as is, what they should do is fix some overall bugs in the game like some weapons doing double/triple reloads, bullets/knives going through the ennemy etc

• As for world tour, yeah in this state it's practically useless, the matchmaking sucks a lot. There's a reason i only play casual now

Why is kyoto in the map rotation the whole time?
They do that for every new map. But it's actually one of their best maps

[patent wind]

In season 4 are we going to have WT and ranked cashout? Cus i dont like TA but playing the same mode twice is just kinda… boring to me. Like at least TA is a change of pace

[pseudo latch]

Day 137 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[vale acorn]

I wanna see an asymmetrical game mode that has a juggernaut player running around like Dead By Daylight trying to murder 3 or 4 teams playing a cashout game. Said player could have more hp or even the return of mediums recon sense for the single killer player

[queen shale]

why is kyoto in the map rotation this whole time? its lit your shittiest map

[odd marsh]

also the worst performing

[velvet olive]

Team Fortress 2 or Rust collab!!!!

[obtuse radish]

could i get my 400 coins back, turns out that the lewis gun animations are NOT compatible with the mini roulette lewis gun skin and it makes me sad

[magic bronze]

I’m mentally defeated playing TA, almost every day I play a cheater now that majority of players went to play for emerald. They do it blatantly because bans and anti cheat don’t do much, the boosting is horrid you see them almost every match and they all abuse it.

[inland cove]

does that invalidate my argument? why did you write it as a response?

[sudden spire]

Why can't I report someone after they leave the match?

[queen shale]

this is a take. this is something else. bro. imagine a world where thinking flamer is op. i need to know more about your mind. your life. your story. were you dropped on the head as a child? did you fall from a great hight? were you not loved enough and now you need attention but can only think of bad ways to get it?

you think flamer is too op? and your great counter idea is to make it do team damage? imma let you in on a secret. imma queue with my friends just to kill them. this would count as positive kda right? you know this will mean people will kill their allies for fun right? you know what? normal guns are too op. i think they should do friendly fire as well. and melee. i think we should double down on this brain rot and see how cancerous this gets.

or hear me out. just get gud.

[patent wind]

make animations work for every gun skin. Like i dont see why i cant spin the mag on the roulette skin? Like what stops the animation from working on that??? Did yall just not code backend stuff properly or smth

[crystal umbra]

Alright, let's talk about a feature that I think the sweaties will love:

🔥🔥 FREE IDEA - "Leaderboard Shout-Outs": Day 4🔥🔥
I don't actually know what to call it but it will make more sense soon

TLDR:
-This is me suggesting a new "feature".
-Leaderboard names are now selectable.
-Upon selecting a name you see text displayed.
-The displayed text is "usernames" for their social media or streaming platforms.
-All contestants fill out a prompt (and can change it as needed).
-The "profiles" are only unlocked & visible upon reaching top 500.
-Effectively giving top 500 players a shout-out.
-Thus giving people more reason to compete for the top 500 spot, more content creators possibly wanting to play, more people interested in The finals content.
All completely voluntary

Let's imagine a world where being able to boot up The Finals and scroll through the LEADERBOARD with all of the top 500 ranked players, top 500 world tour players, or the top 500 "finalists". There I can select any of them and I open some sort of "profile".

In the future that profile will have things like a background, a contestant model showing how the (profile owner) is currently wearing his cosmetics. But (one of) the most important parts of that profile will be the display names.

Each of us, will have a prompt where we can voluntarily share our Twitch, our YouTube gaming, and whatever other handles to have them displayed for viewers - like me and you - to go and watch them play the finals or to watch their clips.

Only the top 500 players will be able to display this. What does that mean? Players seeking glory (clout) will be on a daily grind either trying to reach the top spot or to maintain it.

This - in my opinion - could create a positive feedback loop. A mixture of competition, a real world benefit, & content creators getting having even more reason to play The Finals.
Major W 🔥

It fits the theme so well. It's not hard to implement since it's just displaying text (until you guys decide to go all in on this idea and add a whole sick ass display screen with player models and backgrounds).

Instead of pretending you are a contestant displaying your skills for your fans. The Finals & Embark will finally promote the most skillful & loyal contestants.

Completely open to criticism on this one guys🙏🏾

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

[worn tapir]

literally just stand 5 meters away bro 😭

[split mason]

The amount of cheaters in ranked is unplayable. Need live moderation 24/7 like Nexon did with CA

[quick coyote]

Give us 1 point towards emerald for reaching the finals and two for winning. I’d be more down for the way it is now if we had this available since the start of the season

[frozen stirrup]

let us turn off cross play they have xim or chronus

[cosmic ether]

I play all classes, if I was defending it, I'd tell you how great it is. Instead, I presented counters. I don't know if you've played since beta, many people know what flamethrower was like when it was broken. It is currently much more sedate and tolerable than it was back then.

[tribal shard]

Yeah ranked is currently unplayable, you often find yourself locked with 2 vegetables that don't know what they're doing

[brittle obsidian]

Make cloak true invisibility with a short transition between cloaked and uncloaked state

Disable the use of weapons and gadgets while invisible

Getting shot or coming within 1 meter of an enemy makes you partially visible for a short duration, like what we have now when you're moving while invisible

Remove the ridiculous activation penalty

Reduce cloak consumption rate significantly while standing completely still

Currently cloak's usefulness is entirely dependent on how oblivious your enemies are (also some people can barely see invis while others can see it plainly based on their graphics settings and hardware). You keep nerfing everything about cloak EXCEPT the part people don't like fighting against; getting mag dumped out of invisibility. In its current state its pretty much exclusively a noob stomping tool, which is a shame because its one of the more creative specializations, since you're forfeiting mobility for it. For people who favor a weaker cloak that can be shot out of freely, keep vanish bomb the way it is (but pls fix it stopping cloak from regenerating its so annoying).

[ruby brook]

give v9s a bianary trigger or full auto i feel like im gonna get carpel tunnel everytime i use it ( full auto on all weapons setting would be nice)

[mossy karma]

No one adding this crap ever stop begging pls

[crisp dragon]

Snipers/Lights can be countered easily enough. Ive yet to have a game with randoms or friends where we felt specifically pinned by a light (except those crack head lights with swords and DBS but thats more skill issue on our side). I was technically adding on/pointing out something that is actually very oppressive to ALL players and not in select instances.
Your problem is some1 is out manoeuvring you in a game of chess. What i pointed out is a pigeon shitting on the board and knocking the pieces all over to end the game.

If what i said makes you feel "invalidated" then you are reading too much into what i said and taking it way too personally.

[night vortex]

What if heavies got the stun gun to help with lights?

[bitter aspen]

heavy is supposed to be oppressive and a menace to light not the other way around, the flamethrower is not even that bad as the range is limited, its rare that we get good flamethrowers in a fps and this one of them, i think people who complain about the flamethrower get in the range where they can killed off off by other short range weapons over all a skill issue, there is other weapons and gadgets that are more of issue then the flamethrower, TK Is one example

[midnight haven]

I saw someone suggest swapping shoot to the scroll wheel

[quick coyote]

that is insane

[silent fog]

Ever since kyoto was introduced I want map ban. Kyoto looks great, gameplay and performance is just bad. It makes Vegas feel like a good map somehow.

[queen shale]

bro. probably the most balanced weapon and only outranks lights in kissing distance and you are acting like its the most busted gun in the game. 100+ who? im seeing literally no one but melee users complain about heavy. awwwwww. you mad your counter is countering you? thats literally a skill issue and i dont know how to be kinder but say dont stay in rooms and dont play melee against a flame thrower

[sudden spire]

The XP-50 has way too much damage for it's effective range. It should not be killing people from medium-long range that fast and with that much accuracy

[crystal umbra]

🗣️ I HAVE ANOTHER LEAVER IN MY WORLD TOUR MATCH‼️‼️‼️

[vale acorn]

Binary trigger mechanic should be for a new gun imo

[sacred inlet]

Please add a snowy weather variant to all the maps! A deep snow mechanic would fit this game so well!

[dry wraith]

After unlocking a new game mode in the World Cup, the quality of my matches has decreased significantly. I have never seen such an unbalanced matchmaking system. As a Gold 1 player, I was paired with a Gold 4 and an unranked player on my team against a full stack of Gold players. Not to mention the leavers and cheaters.

[abstract coyote]

I completely agree and so does alot of people but there’s a lot of players that will defend that. Just as if you complain about a light then you have lights player complaining and defending to your ideas same with medium.. it goes on and on lol but the flamethrower I agree. There been about hundreds of players for the last week saying the same and that all it takes to have it fixed. And I run all classes I believe in fair play. Ppl say then don’t stand so close blah blah blah they already forgot they gave heavy a winch claw to bring you strait to them turning heavy’s that were once defense now literally assassins then you have player saying you defiantly have a “skill issue” as if they made that quote up lol #🥊┇fair-play

[signal willow]

remove the sniper from power shift, the thing is basically unplayable

[crisp coral]

Fr bro I couldn’t put it any better u should speak to the devs 😂

[quasi fiber]

That was a pretty useless rant talking about brain rot 🤡

[wooden holly]

idk where comment this but this would be a cool idea. The game "super auto pets" have an interesting way to name the team, you can select 2 words from a pool like
super | auto | fries
paper | red | chikens
then result like this
super chikens
and maybe the team can vote to select the words, so this way we can name our team as we want and the commentators can say the name in the intro cuz i know name the team with input text would be imposible for the commentators to spell it some times

[rough herald]

would be so cool if we didn't get another nothing patch

@bitter aspen lads, with how things going i think it gon be never

[proven ibex]

With the lag and frames drop it became unplayable. Hot fix dint fix anything.

[bitter aspen]

when is the crosshair placement ever going to get fixed?

[earnest ridge]

As I remember multihits where meant to be disabled???? why are they still in the game? I just lost two tournaments because of light with sword doing multi-hits all the time and making at least 15 kills per round.

[quick coyote]

Once again I am asking for a reward for reaching the finals towards emerald.

Not all of us competitive players play the game for a living on twitch for 5 hours a day

[vale acorn]

15 kills for one round as a sword seems fine. They were probably doing the quick melee followup which is legitimate practice

[random scarab]

Sensual sword combos

[peak moss]

Why do yall expect us to play the finals as a fucking career??? 70 TOURNAMENT WINS?!?! AFTER YOU MADE IT PAINFUL HUST TO GET TO GOLD 1?!?!?! Yall are idiots. Lower the wins required for WT.

[pastel ravine]

missed out on two tourny wins today cause two teammates left at the start and i had to carry till the end just to just lose needs to be a bigger penalty

[clear hemlock]

Id make the transition 1.5 seconds and the deactivation really loud. Invis just feels cheap and feels op when it kinda isn't.

[upper citrus]

sword is supposed to get multihits. knife and sledge heavy attacks no longer do

[wise jolt]

70 tourney wins is absolutely disgusting. im dedicated to this game, i play it daily. but i know i wont get it because its such a ridiculous amount of wins. i dont even agree with the wins in and off itself but whatever. guess the 3 big streamers can get their ranks. im stuck with randoms

[silent fog]

Can you please make any way to not play kyoto? It's so bad it makes vegas feel like a good map. Feels like I play it more than other maps too, or maybe it's because it's that bad it feels that way

[stone hazel]

you need to look into gas barrels not picking up properly and then exploding in your hand this is a consistent issue i keep having and specifically with gas barrels

[twin hatch]

remove kyoto from the wt map pool, shit ass map for weeks straight

[sonic thorn]

MATCHMAKING IS A FUCKING JOKE AT THIS POINT

[midnight haven]

The amount of times in the last round I come up against a fully staked lobby of sweaty streamers is absolutely insane.

[rough herald]

Would be so cool if the dev work on the game

[echo panther]

rework the progress system for emerald ITS FRUSTRATING and makes me want to quit the game

[quiet quarry]

1️⃣ Can we not make defib a pick or throw please?
2️⃣ Nerf medium shotgun
3️⃣ Triple medium is SO BORING to play against especially with triple defib it's just so cheesy

[wooden shuttle]

Making it so that you need to win tournaments to get anywhere in Emerald sucks, if you dont win you play for nothing, please change this is actually so heartbreaking when you lose in the final. Or atleast make it less wins, 10 is CRAZY

[reef oak]

game keeps crashing man and ive been resetting over and over again

[crystal umbra]

🗣️I JUST GOT ((ANOTHER)) LEAVER IN MY WORLD TOUR MATCH‼️‼️‼️

[hardy thicket]

why do they ALWAYS give me a team, either full noobs or beginners who play the game for at most 10 hours? it's already impossible to tolerate, in every fight they are... it's easier to exit at the sight of a stock character. maybe somewhere in the settings there is some kind of button to disable such auto-selection?😭

[vale acorn]

Anyone who complains about Kyoto without eloquently explaining why the map didn't cater to their specific desires isn't worth listening to. What's wrong with Kyoto?

Telling the devs to delete a map they spent countless hours on sounding like a child isn't going to get you anywhere.

[sweet seal]

remove stun gun, it has no counter play and is the easiest free kill for lights in the world, PLEASE either remove it fully or make it cancel on damage

[night vortex]

The only thing I could see why people wouldn’t like it is that it required a loadout change for me. But I like having to custom tailor my loadouts for maps, makes the play feel “deeper.” But I also like Vegas and Kyoto, and they seem to be hated.

I think the best thing about Kyoto is that there’s so much close range play and cover it feels drastically different from others that play at a more medium range from my experience.

[sonic spoke]

And very effective

[stray thunder]

We need a skill based matchmaking system.

All lot of players are complaining about op weapons and gadgets when the real problem is thst we are facing opponents way out of our own skill level.

This applies to both casual and rankrd play. And maybe most of all for soloq players.

[analog hearth]

they won't do it, they don't care about solo players🙄

[unborn tangle]

when are we gonna fix the bug that randomly prevents u from shooting?

[cursive lotus]

We need to get a wizard fit hehe

[warm fjord]

I think the XP bonus when having friends should not only be for Gamepass but for Weapon XP or even for player XP in the future (If player level is going to be raised) I feel like this could be pretty good for grinders that just want their weapon XP leveled up quick and want the beatiful skin of lvl 6 or even 8.

[quick coyote]

Streamers love it

[regal igloo]

The new Emerald progression is so pointless, at least give us a tiny bit of progression for wasting 40 min getting all the way to the final round. Lots of people who agree.

[opaque meteor]

sir can we get any balance changes sir please im begging

[rough herald]

10% team wipe feel so weak
Make it 20

[stone hazel]

oh my god remove elevator cashouts or make it possible to break the elevator these are unambiguously the worst cashouts in the game how are these still a thing

[wise jolt]

its really painful. im dedicated player. play this game each day for a long time. and in 2 days i got 4 wins. i know. its a skill issue. but with soloq u can only do so much. and i feel like this emerald rank is only geared towards 3stacks and literal comp players

[steep sigil]

please bring back Bank It Solos in private matches.

[vale acorn]

I can see that angle, personally I'm not of a fan that it serves the current sniper meta but I can find plenty to enjoy. Very good rat map. People don't enjoy the tinderbox buildings as much but I love the hidey holes and the thick foilage that conceal movement.

[silent fog]

Please give me some type of option to avoid playing Kyoto, the map looks great but gameplay wise it's the worst. Makes me not want to even play

[teal oxide]

Kyoto either needs to leave the rotation or the fucking spawns need to be fixed on that map. It's absolutely ridiculous how every single time rounds on Kyoto devolve into rampant 3rd partying because every spawn is 5ft away from an active objective. We've just had a round where we wiped a team on our way to a cashout, and they literally were at the cashout before we were. The spawns on Kyoto are just utterly stupid.

[lilac grail]

Feedback on THE FINALS! World Tour.

Hello, long time player since closed beta and I genuinely am confused on what the point of the emerald grind is as a solo queue player. It was advertised as a more competitive experience for the most dedicated world tour players. Yet game after game after game I am being queued with bronze 1 level 13 players.

How is this a more competitive experience. Big fan of the game and the cashout game mode but this update was a HUGE swing and a miss. Absolutely miserable carrying complete noobs through to the final and everything falls apart because they are LEVEL THIRTEEN AND HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO PLAY THE GAME YET.

[upper citrus]

i cant think of a worse addition to the game since launch than the new glitch traps. winch is a contender though.

you guys really need to stop adding things that give instant value that can't be reacted to. it's extremely unhealthy for the game and is always frustrating to play against. give winch claw a wind up, make it so that the glitch trap needs to build up a glitch meter on you in order to apply the effect, and make it so that you can't reload the rpg until you have committed to shooting it. 99% of your balance issues in gadgets/specials come from design failures that can't be fixed by tweaking numbers. This studio is awesome but you desperately need to realize that designing things like this is extremely problematic for the game. Everything needs to be designed with natural counterplay in mind.

[night vortex]

Tinderbox makes me wish the buildings could burn down and the walls could be pierced.

[analog hearth]

make it 100% what's the point of penalties for wiped teams? The team that got wiped is weaker, and it's already losing time until respawn, and then also get their money taken away? this creates a very unfair gap between the teams

[twilit torrent]

Because it has too much elevation and clutter compared to other maps. Also, the buildings feel like a maze to get through, with a million places to hide. Also the performance issues of the map. I think it just needs a bit of tweaking, I love some of the designs of the map but the bad parts of the map just ruin the good parts

[paper oak]

don't understand why light classes need sonar and thermal, just skill issu class.

[patent wind]

stun gun can only get removed once winch is removed

[sweet seal]

winch is countered by shotgun

[hollow badger]

stop nerfing flamethrower, its already the worst weapon and it needs a BUFF!

[red kayak]

anyone else getting performance issues over the last 3 weeks

[wise jolt]

wasted 2.5 hours just get no progres on emeral

[meager crater]

Why does there have to be new content only when the update drops like why cant they make new guns, new modes, etc throughout the season.

[vale acorn]

As someone who plays light the most, I think we've got things nice right now and winch feels like an apt counter.

I hate the stun gun more than the rpg and winch AS a light. It feels too oppressive with little counterplay. Take away the movement or aimspeed but not both

[spice flax]

Can we please start getting grenade indicators? Or make them make noise or more visible? Once its thrownm it dissapears and u have no idea if you're on top of a grenade lol

[echo panther]

please change the progression system for emerald its frustrating wasting 40 minutes

[rough herald]

Everyone is working on a game that isn't even out yet, and leave a crew to mantain this game

[visual chasm]

And actually visible grenade arcs

[hot glade]

Oh yes, week or two I've got fps drop with 4060 even on medium settings

[smoky gust]

Please revert cl-40 damage

And in return make the projectile travel slower and deal more self damage

Shooting your feet and winning wont be an issue anymore
And lights have an easier time avoiding hits, leaving 2-shots to only those who can predict their enemies well

[crystal umbra]

Decoy gadget for light class??? 👀👀👀

[pastel ravine]

being able to grab someone with the winch being around the corner is so dumb

[ocean parrot]

Let the lewis gun animation pack work on the mini roullette!!!!!!

[keen lily]

why is the game changing video settings by itself after the patch? wtf is this shit?

[midnight haven]

Couple things I've noticed just today while playing:

I got disconnected from a WT tournament (PC shut down) and when I reconnected, my whole loadout and cosmetics were default. once the round ended, I had my cosmetics and loadout back for the next round.

Personal opinion:

I should not be able to winch people during the defib animation. One, they light up blue so it's really easy to see and two, there's no counter to this.

[royal walrus]

Props and Foliage don't spawn on maps for me, it's really noticeable on Monaco because the damn church in the center doesn't load in

[reef oak]

Medium classes certainly need at least a little more maneuvering, it feels impossible to play that class

[stark pilot]

Even the best The Finals player in the world still can't win any 1v3 fight with melee weapon in Cash out.
When I dodge all mines, all grenade ,all trap ,and ensure is spilt them for 1v1 three times , I still can't bit them, because after I kill someone, I'll need to wait my HP full for next fight ,revive a teammate just use 5 sec and heal myself 7~10 sec, it make 1v3 with melee weapon is impossible .
Solo player in cash out is poor , and solo melee player is shit .
Any FTS game with high-corporation just one future ,dead !
Even Apex or Overwatch it still have some highlight to 1 vs all ,
The Finals ,what do you want to the melee weapon do ? The game has 6 melee weapon and only can take one for a round. You don't need to design many shit weapon in game and don't balancing once.

[meager crater]

So yall shifted yall focus away from the finals onto a u released game

[echo panther]

thats a cool idea like a moving clone that when gets shot the enemy will be exposed

[round burrow]

I feel like the current setup is harder for new players because all the sweats are playing the unranked mode. If there was a ranked mode in the game right now I think it would allow WT to be a more casual experience and better for new players. I love this game so much.

[crystal umbra]

Hell yeah, there are so many features and way to spin the idea.

Maybe it could have a flashbang effect to whoever shoots the clone or whoever is looking at it when it's shot

[gentle spear]

yoru ahhh idea

[quick coyote]

"we fixed this we fixed that" not fixed

[steep sigil]

Can you please add an audible notification when invited in game. Thanks.

[paper oak]

medium class the support class, meanwhile light classes every gadget for every scenario.

[rough herald]

buff cl40 damge

[molten trail]

didnt know light class has defib + rpg? 😂

[spice ferry]

i can't believe the "spin the magazine" animations don't work on the literal roulette wheel. 400 gamercoins down the drain 🙄

[woven depot]

It’s really frustrating that you have to win tournaments to make progress in Emerald. Losing, especially in the final, feels disheartening when it seems like all your efforts were for nothing. It would be great if the requirements were adjusted to need fewer wins—10 is a lot to ask for. Additionally, it would help if the model and light fire rate were toned down a bit.

[quiet quarry]

nerf model
nerf throwing knifes
nerf defib
nerf stun gun
buff riot shield

[whole palm]

Riot sheild buff idea, when you block you go 3rd person so its easier to block

[drifting quarry]

MATCHAQWQ#3142 is a cheater

[glacial knot]

STOP BANNING PEOPLE ONLY 1 WEEK THE FIRST BAN. FIRST BAN PERM BAN ALL OTHER GAMES HAS 0 TOLERENCE AGAINST CHEATERS. @pearl kiln. One week ban, create new account in few days he has everything back again and now with this xp bosster faster

[sour orchid]

nerf the xp54 and throwing knives

[paper oak]

sorry, did not know you were stupid.

[idle cosmos]

where my anime cat pet to go with the anime skin

[crystal umbra]

Embark PLEASE DO NOT listen to the nerf bregade

God it's annoying to see these kids want every gun nerfed instead of weapons buffed to match.

((MORE BUFFS, LESS NERFS))

buff bad weapons, and go easy on the nerfs.

[lime crane]

Limited time mode with CL40s, MGLs, and dead go boom…
possibly some mandatory mines and frags

[twilit torrent]

I wonder what class you play

[jagged cedar]

pretty sure the only thing that kills a winch faster is the sa12, where you need a literally perfect spray to win the fight

[shell raven]

cl40/mgl32 should have a minimum arming time, where it only explodes on contact after a certain amount of time. this would making hitting enemies at longer ranges easier, while allowing players to reduce the damage they take from their own weapons

[rough herald]

Be so cool if we didn't get another nothing patch

@shell raven wtf? no dude. Thats horrible wtf

[sweet seal]

2 shots with the sawed off, back pedaling with medium shotty, counter winch, then sa12 as heavy...

[hardy bramble]

[ocean parrot]

Request for every weapon skin that comes with its own unique animation(s):
Please make animations that are normally "Not compatible" with certain weapons' skins to actually be compatible, regardless of the skin.

AKM:
I bought the Holtow Fine Print skin for the AKM a little while ago.
Then a week or so later, I bought the AKM Animation Bundle.
I was not aware beforehand that none of the animations in that bundle would be compatible with the Holtow Fine Print skin.
This seems absurd to me considering that the only animation that's unique to the Holtow Fine Print skin is the Inspect animation.
The Deploy, Tactical Reload, and Empty Reload animations on the Holtow Fine Print skin are all just the AKM's default animations and are locked, preventing the usage of any other animations because they're claimed to be Not compatible (see video).
Lewis Gun:
I would like to get the new Lewis Gun Animations bundle, but I don't see the point in spending the money on it if I can't use it at the same time as my favorite skin— the Mini Roulette.

[upbeat patio]

10% wipe reduction? I left after they took out the wipe because game plays were not as strategic and people were just going all out on cashouts with no penalty to dying. I think they should bring back 30%, i think with the 500 per kill now i dont know the math but sound like the cash wipe should go up to 35-40%. Like to hear someone's thoughts on the 10% does not seem vial or big of an impact for 3rd or 4th place team to make a comback.

[molten trail]

nerf triple defib. biggest clown sht in this game

[echo panther]

please rework the progression system for emerald its frustrating

[quiet quarry]

Listen porkchop
#1 don't claim things like i've EVER had a conversation with you about balancing before
#2 don't generalise and say things like "these kids" as if it was a problem, they make up most of the community and you wouldn't be playing if it weren't for them, it also makes you no better if you say things like that
#3 this is a channel of free speech, if the devs want to listen to me that's only up to them, can't believe you would waste your time on this garbage message and putting your slowmode cd back up

so as i was saying nerf or rework the throwing knives and the model thank you

[woven depot]

I concurr

[wooden shuttle]

Coudnt agree more with every word said

[tight wigeon]

maybe lock out the subclass sop one med beam one turret one de mat?

[late raft]

Pleaseee allow us to message friends on PC if we’re on console and we’re friends

[civic thistle]

dagger is so op (i do turn around)

[spice stag]

https://tenor.com/view/louie-anderson-louie-turn-around-gif-8007964253254972252

[jagged cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/louie-anderson-louie-turn-around-gif-8007964253254972252

[bitter aspen]

the model doesnt need a nerf, its the only good medium weapon they have right now, the ars are lacking and the revolver is abysmal, the fcar needs a buff

[teal oxide]

Pictured: "The Light Meta"

[molten trail]

nerf triple defib. biggest clown sht in this game. gadget that takes 0 skill and braindead to use shouldnt win you fights/games 🤡

@nova solar thank goodness for u

[nova solar]

Mediums ain’t nothing 🔨, just use sledgehammer🔨

[rapid stream]

If you do turn around how is it op.....

[main gull]

medium shotty broken, get rid of wench claw, nerf heavy shotgun, buff light dash, buff xp54, nerf defib invincibility after respawn, get rid of heavy flamethrower, GL. if you disagree your bad at aiming

[terse lark]

PromptProp#6480 this guy has the most blatant cheats ive ever seen. he just stood still from 100m away beaming our whole team

[sonic thorn]

IM A GAME OR 2 FROM UNINSTALLING YOUR SHITTY ASS GAME AND NEVER LOOKING BACK

[stray siren]

Is anyone else getting paired with silver on the finals game mode

[subtle coyote]

Can tell what you've been dying to

[twilit torrent]

I really wonder what class you play

also worst take of the century please shut up🔥

[crisp solstice]

nerf xp 🙏🙏

[oak smelt]

lemme guess ur a winchclaw/flamethrower heavy?

[crystal umbra]

Quality of life suggestion:

Add the game mode that we are searching for in the black "searching" box at the top.

And if you want ok, you can also keep how long it took to find a match so we can remember to keep a record

[red echo]

truth is goo gun is better than winch claw for hammer , but ppl gonna keep using the claw bc its easier

[sonic spoke]

to all heavy claw nerf requesters get credt's skills

[echo panther]

the emerald progressions system is bad its unmotivating and really a let down when u lose the final round

[misty jasper]

why claim free speech and then get mad at him for using it tho?

[molten trail]

nerf triple defib. biggest clown sht in this game. gadget that takes 0 skill and braindead to use shouldnt win you fights/games

[rich brook]

what are you trying to say? Is Timmy stuck in the well!?

[stark notch]

I probably have the same amount of screenshots of bunch of triple light teams in emerald world tour to match yours lol

@teal oxide sorry that you cant cherry pick your screenshots to provide a false narrative :^(

[teal oxide]

That's great for you; should make your Emerald grind real easy then

[tepid summit]

world tour grind is actually impossible

[regal igloo]

Fuck the new Emerald progression, what a horrible decision.

[quiet quarry]

I’m not upset over him speaking his mind
He can feel free to say anything and make any point I just think his selection of words was mid

[smoky gust]

Both winch and defib are way too strong and annoying

Even worse, it de-insentivises players from experimenting and using items they actually like
Because then they just loose to this

[dull torrent]

Jep 74 wins for emerald 1. Ggs

[tough plank]

just do win

[nova solar]

Erm… ☝️😛 skill issue (find counters and exploit them, don’t just sit on the discord and complain, but that’s just how I feel)

[quick coyote]

Give us a reward for reaching the finals towards emerald

[candid crystal]

Why are cheaters banned for aweek instead of forever?\

[tall egret]

Why make it so hard to get to emerald (i just want that akm)??

[red echo]

its not that hard to reach emerald , find a good squad and just grind , aim for 3 wins per day easily doable in 3-4 weeks total , season has 45 days more , also ppl saying light isnt meta are just straight coping with how bad they are

even 2 wins per day you gonna make it to e1 ,

[stoic zinc]

Does anyone know which Terminal mode (ranked/unranked) people are playing?? I can‘t find a match since 20 Minuten and i need fucking 9 matches for the weekly challenge

[charred seal]

@pearl kiln @true epoch @golden musk I'm really sorry to tag and disturb you but I feel this really needs to be talked about. I soo agree with you @echo panther I have talked to alot of Gold 1 players who all think the same atleast reward something to reach the Final round. if each tier of gold was 250 points emerald could have been 500 points each tier but very less points being rewarded making the grind hard but rewarding, also we just waste 30 minutes of our life if we loose the Finals for nothing. And for the people who say emerald should be hard the people who are grinding for it are all professional content creators or streamers they earn their bread and butter from this its a job for them. A lot of people who are Gold 1 and want to go Emerald like me have other stuff in life rather than just playing and grinding all day long. Please Embark understand this. Plus either in the Finals round your Teammates disconnect or u encounter a cheater then its game over time wasted for nothing its gg. Plus when it was said that Emerald is only for player who are Gold 1 then y am I having people who are Bronze in my team who don't have the same skill level as me they ruin the entire game the whole game goes to waste and I just want to throw the round and move on to the nect game which is unfair to both me and them, and Embark if you made a claim its for Gold 1 only stick to it or else reward something for reaching The FInals please. I love this game and I really want to see it succeed. I support you guys alot even when Terminal Attack was announced as the new ranked mode this season. But with this Emerald grind not being rewarding enough and being extremely exhausting for players with other commitments who are willing to grind and the thing for Emerald grind for Gold 1 only not being the case as I am having Bronze and Silver players it is becoming frustrating and hard to like the game. Please do something about it in the next patch.

[molten trail]

nerf triple defib. biggest clown sht in this game. gadget that takes 0 skill and braindead to use shouldnt win you fights/games

[flat solstice]

They don’t even listen to this channel. Everyone wasting their time. The meta has been the same since beta. Three mediums. They never consider role queuing. They literally still keep Seoul in as a competitive map and there is a legit free cash out across the bridge. Like literal basics things to make the game better get overlooked constantly. The new map is ass too. Looks pretty, but plays terribly. Nothing it OP if you just know how to play. I think there is a nice balance rn. Just add role queue, remove TA as ranked, limit only 2 types of a class max per team. Add 4 rounds back to ranked tournaments. Add back pub tournaments. Also they need to make critical changes to the final round in tournament.

[jagged cedar]

new bug in the most recent patch where your loadout will change when you die, even in cashout where you cant change your loadout 💀

@flat solstice meta has been hmh since cb2

@charred seal @echo panther I think the point of emerald is that it is somewhat difficult to obtain and not just a participation prize

@civic thistle if you turned around you wouldn'tve died

[wet compass]

@pearl kiln @true epoch Hi.. again.

Most people showing interest in this game and most of them are already loose or i am the one who support it till now but seems like the game does not want to support us. Every update we get its got worse than previous. we are not seeing any growth in this game. The game will not work with streamers or top rankers. Its get supported when majority is happy and most of them are under rank who just want fun from this game. Grinding is good but its not the first priority. if you guys thinking or making about other game so just earse that think from your mind that we are going to support that game too. If community happy game happy. I hope this is enough to said

[echo urchin]

Nah, we should be getting, at the very least, some points for making it to the final. They want Emerald to be a harder grind than WT, fine, no points unless you make it to the finals, but literally nothing unless you win the whole thing is asinine.

The only people defending this decision are pros, streamers that get paid to do this shit, and cheaters.

[true epoch]

Hi everyone! Please refrain from tagging Embark Staff if they are not in the chat. Thank you!

[quick coyote]

why can i still get winched through fucking walls

[spice flax]

@mystic sable ur trash buddy

[sour orchid]

nerf the xp54 and throwing knives

[nova solar]

Erm… ☝️😛 skill issue

[civic thistle]

i did turn around somehow they get behind me as soon as i do also

[ancient basin]

Agreed! way too much damage and accuracy at long range compared to an AR. 9mm being that effective at range is ridiculous

[echo panther]

U a real one

I think IT can Just Take 2 days of Not winning a single round For a Player to get burned Out and quit

i thought world Tour was never meant to BE sweaty WE never lost Points For loosing why suddenly force this way of gaining Points ranked Is the Mode Here should get rewarded For being the best of the best

[queen temple]

can we get a sound notification when we recieve invites from friends, a lot of times i wont be looking at my screen and miss an invite to party

[charred seal]

Then why make the grind to Gold 1 soo easy If it really is needed for Emerald why not minus on loosing rounds while on the road to gold 1 not everyone deserves Gold 1 too most of the Gold 1 players are bad at the game and don't even have basic game sense. "Not Everything has to be a participation prize"(as you said buddy). Plus I never said Emerald should be easy. It should'nt be. But atleast it should be rewarding a bit. Most of the soo called "best of the best players" are professional players or content creators who do this for a living. Might as well mention it is for them only and not for good players who have other commitments who wanna go to Emerald 1. There has to be some reward for reaching the finals cuz if ur teammate goes or u encounter a cheater its game over/ time wasted/ goodbye. And soo called best of the best are playing 12 - 16 hours a day. Soo should I just leave everything and just play The Finals all day long like I have no care in the world. Soo I can be "the best of the best". Thanks but no thanks.

@echo panther I saw your message while typing this Thanks man you a real one too bro.

[marble prawn]

just a cosmetic request please let us wear lower back items with the off the shoulder top

[jagged cedar]

then you didnt turn around, its a backstab not a face stab 🤷‍♀️

[quick coyote]

I mean I can without a doubt go back and find clips of being backstabbed to the face. Its called desync dude and at times this game seems like it can be a full half second difference between what you see and what your enemy sees. At its worst, its the honest to god worst desync i've seen in 20 years. Its asshole.

[upper citrus]

The entire light class is hard countered by a single shotgun on the class that’s meant to have the weakest primaries of the 3 classes

[cunning oak]

getting teamed up with lvl 1 players constantly is demotivating and time waisting

[misty jasper]

then go to L4G

[molten trail]

then go make a team

[teal oxide]

This sort of cashout spawn pattern should just straight-up not happen if the goal is to discourage third-partying. It's screaming for third-parties left right and center; you'd be an idiot if you didn't attack the other cashout after successfully defending yours and noticing that theirs has just been attacked and the defenders are recovering. You'll also constantly run into other teams just by default, because everyone is moving towards the same area of the map. It's basically the same thing as a double-cashout, except you have no choice whatsoever but to do one and can't do anything to prevent one if the stations spawn a road across from each other.

[crisp heart]

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[gilded hull]

nerf model and ban snipers from ta

[steel mist]

i mean u were 1 hp by the time u clawed him

[velvet olive]

WHY DO MY SETTINGS KEEP GETTING SET TO HIGH! (if its not you does anyone have this issue also?)

[terse flower]

The game began a low cost and bad version of CoD, it is NOT fun to play anymore and it is not balanced either. It looks like embark is trying to destroy the game intentionnaly. And all of those bad features came in season 3 which is currently the worst season of the finals

[cerulean birch]

if it wasn't balanced at all then why does the meta consist of all 3 classes

[stark notch]

gotta love triple mediums with models

[mortal ridge]

The penalty for leaving tournaments needs to be harsher. I am never going to be able to reach emerald if I constantly have to play an entire tournament without any teammates just because we didn't take the first Cashout

[misty jasper]

this is a bad example tho bc if your cashout finishes at B, A would have already been done. Not to say that some spawns don't encourage third-partying, but this image is not an example

[whole palm]

yes the game got best customisation I ever seen and lacks on something that simple

[teal oxide]

It is, just because of how close the cashouts are. They're basically right across the street from one another. You don't even have to wait for your own cashout to finish; you can just keep an eye on the scoreboard and hop/zipline/dash across to join the fight as soon as you see teams drop enough players to make third-partying worth it. You can get across, wipe the stragglers, steal, and get back to your own cashout in less time than it takes for the initial team you defended your own cashout against to respawn and get back in the fight. I know this because that's exactly what happened in that game.

[light urchin]

thanks for the info

[terse flower]

It is not only the 3 classes.

As a double silver I played with and against rubies and emerald

[quick coyote]

Remove intersecting moving platforms.

[tired wadi]

Hear me out

Freaking remove joining a match that is already in progress, let the players reconnect if they got disconnected and punish the player if they left the whole game

Like what in the world are you guys doing

[marble prawn]

cosmetic suggestion - Please make a drip room where you can try on different items together even if you dont own them yet and maybe a bundle deal and stuff would be cool

[quick coyote]

This happened to me recently. Both cashouts were within the same building in Seul within 50 meters of each other and we lost our cashout because of 9 different people third partying us

[vocal cave]

this game has literally never been a bad version of cod since its nothing like cod

[brittle dirge]

Bruh yall still having problems with not allowing players to get back into a tournament match after getting a message saying something is wrong with the servers, I tried reconnecting many times just to still be suspended in the end, despite there being another message saying “you won’t be penalized due to another player leaving the tournament” but I yet still get suspended-.-

[wintry trout]

every single patch this game gets worse.
stop. go back. or give up.

[cold pilot]

😢

[fiery patio]

deathcam. where is it?

[fading geode]

game is complete trash after this update. it was trash before but now it is just terrible. i crash more now than before you "fixed" the crashing issue. playing powershift and stuck on Seoul with fog for 15+ rounds starting from the left side EVERY time. snipers are now doing 350-400 damage with 1 shot(or everyone i get shot by is cheating). all sound is bugged. you are lucky if you can even hear your gun firing. crowd cheering cuts in and out all match long. announcer is all garbled. absolute worst game on the market. FIX YOUR GAME!!!!!

[echo urchin]

Make it to the final round. Really good shot of winning. Teammate disconnects. Lose the match. Get fuck all towards the emerald grind. Awesome. Fucking awesome.

[eager ivy]

damn this game used to be goated but this world tour now is basically just team deathmatch i dont even need to get vaults game not it anymore

[bold saffron]

more custom animations, there are so many really cool possibilities that animations bring. also removing the team wipe penalties please it was so good without them

[upper citrus]

i would buy a billion multibucks if i could choose to never play on kyoto again

[undone parcel]

if you have nvidia check your nvidia app or geforce experience and see if it has auto setting for the game set to high, if you have amd it might have the same. Either turn it off or set them to the settings you want, that fixed it for me cause i was having same issue

[misty jasper]

that sounds like a pretty fair strat tho..i feel like if your team can do that it’s deserved imo

[cobalt fog]

match replays

[glacial knot]

Do something against cheaters the game is no more playable , there are light who kills heavy with xp-54 withhin 3 bullet, i die even before i start shooting on him . And dont tell me skill issue because i play this game since close beta, and i know how this game was before this fucking virus cheaters join the game. In world tour first round you face legit from round 2 you starting cheaters. And final round mostly one cheater team

[sonic spoke]

yes. he shot me before he hit the ground, and did all the pre damage. Don't give up when you get clawed.

[cursive warren]

Dude what the hell, i just win one tournament for emerald and now I got just one freaking point?! I work from 9 to 6, I got a life outside the game but now I got to grind like a madman and win every single tournament so I can get the emerald AK? And god forbidd me to lose at the last round, because i dont get any single point.
To hell with it

[nova solar]

||sledgehammer™️ ||

[tall kernel]

The emerald grind is not fair for working married men who solo queues every time playing :(((((((( I’m still gonna play though cause the game is just mad fun. Idk why people wanna quit just because they can’t get a skin lol it’s a fun ass game to just play and love all the new cashout changes

[night horizon]

help , i have proplem with the search its been 10 min , whats wrong ?

[tawny oriole]

The game doesnt make fun for legit players only cheaters win , if you want to win , you need to cheat or quiet the game and go play a game where are less cheaters. The finals users right now are 80% cheaters , TA and world tour, every fucking match you have minimum one cheater team. Me im waiting black ops 6 release then i switch , i means will have cheaters but the shadow ban system reduce them. In the finals right now cheaters epandemie is out of controll

[cobalt shuttle]

Please boost dx11's performance on The Finals, dx12 simply causes crashes all the time and even the last patch didn't fix it. DX11 doesn't cause any crashes but sometimes there are some stutters which I believe you guys would be able to fix it.

[civic thistle]

i aint gonna argue with you tbh have it ur way. ur right

[lavish vessel]

Hi, I have an idea for the game, how do I contact u from embark? I don't want to write it here bc then someone can steal my idea and pretend it's theirs.

Also i don't want to tell anyone else bc the idea should be a surprise to the players. No spoilers.
I believe in it, but I want to hear ur opinion.

[brisk garden]

buff the lewis gun so heavies can stop using the sledge. it's just gotten kinda boring

[cursive warren]

Or at least some points, something that make you think that you didnt lose 40 min - 1 hour of your time.
I don't mind play with lower ranked players because I am not a sweaty bastard that play light+sword+stun gun, I like having fun and play ranked too and this mode is perfect for it, but now I dont feel like play it anymore... I am not in any way a perfect player, but I can defend myself and I give solid teamwork, but this is too much to ask.
Not even professional players can win every single time and the devs wants you to win at least 70 tournament, 70 TOURNAMENTS TO GET EMERALD 1? fuck off game

[molten trail]

nerf triple defib. biggest clown sht in this game. gadget that takes 0 skill and braindead to use shouldnt win you fights/games. embark dont play there own game 🤡

[vale wind]

their*

[jagged cedar]

lewis is a 47 bullet fcar on the class with the best gadgets and hp, it doesnt need buffs

[upper citrus]

dont nerf defib, stop nerfing medium's support abilities, the issue is that you can triple stack the support class and still shit out insane amounts of damage. nerf the model.

[orchid wasp]

hey finals dev team, would it be at all possible to make it where you swap back to your weapon after you throw a gadget or grenade etc???? because it is getting OLD AF and im TIRED of dying because my GRENADE is still pulled out while i'm trying to SHOOT the enemy team. THANK YOU VERY MUCH @hazy willow @true epoch

[west anchor]

M11 now the most useless thing in the game

[fathom glacier]

getting wins for emerald is one of the worst things this game has ever done. 1 hour of playing for 0 progress because we get slayed out in the final round even though we beat the other 6 teams in the tourny

[agile jacinth]

Embark doesn’t respect your time^^^ they’ve made that very obvious

[rugged temple]

Use the 93r

[loud frigate]

Can y’all add a new company called the NRG and it’s solar energy and the symbol can be NRG inside of a sun

[fleet socket]

70 wins for e1 is a bit too much, 50 wins is more reasonable imo that's about a win a day for the rest of the season

[molten trail]

nerf triple defib. biggest clown sht in this game. gadget that takes 0 skill and braindead to use shouldnt win you fights/games. embark dont play their own game 🤡

[patent wind]

both are equally as annoying. Honestly the most annoying things in games are any way to hinder movement

[west anchor]

This whole discord is a scam. Thousands of complaints, suggestions etc have been made and none still implemented. Funny

[rustic birch]

as a solo whos (not to brag) really decent at this game, trying to get max emerald rank is LAUGHABLY impossible. some teammates are running on 4 brain cells, lights flying solo, shotgun users missing every shot, enemy 3 stacks wiping a whole team in under 10 seconds. did I mention I'm at silver 1? I cannot mentally fathom the pain I'd have to put myself through to make it past the first emerald level. I love The Finals, I've done every contract to get every free skin in the game, but I refuse to mentally ruin my life for this game. I cant. it's driven me insane attempting to do so.
again, I love The Finals, i really do, but please realize that this is impossible for any and all solos to do without dedicating every waking moment to this game.

[reef oak]

melee weapons just feel horrible to play, i really wish they had a little more range on them

[quick coyote]

Game sucks rn and light dps is insanely overtuned coupled with their crutch abilities like cloak/vanish and stun. To be able to vanish bomb, into a dash backstab for 320 damage is just wild. To be able to be cloaked with a hitscan sniper and do 230 damage is wild. To have throwing knives be as powerful as shotguns with no ammo count and no damage fall off while jumping around is just fuckin bad design. Just delete light from the game because it is an unbalancable class. You cant do it. f

[jagged cradle]

Just leaving a thought here - in the sea of pissed of complaints

Third part strategy is getting abused like CRAZY in the Emerald scene since the only goal is securing a win no matter what.

Cash box initiations reward = a bump up?
Cash deposit reward = great
Kill reward= great
Steal reward = maybe needs a push ( will encourage more risky play)
Team wipe = needs a bump up so that non serious players do not populate tournament mode and they migrate to less punishing fun casual modes.

ADDING in an additional layer of INCENTIVE that contributes to the possibility of winning such as, objective proximity based cash rewards that would ENCOURAGE the players to be active around objective rather than wait out for two teams to battle and pick out the weak on.

Third partying should be an optional strategy but right now in the Finals it's risk vs gain is very skewed.

A suggestion to bring little relief to the situation is, trying to reward - attack and defending the objective, not punishing but losing out on potential cash amount that could spell a win.

Let's say, being active around objective would grant an additional 30% reward,

2 x 30% is 60% cash which could define qualification or elimination- missing out on such an amount would be very disadvantageous to third party players.

Third partying is an interesting mechanic to the sandbox element but it needs to take a side step as a META strategy as, experiencing this again and again every time makes the game a miserable experience.

[cold pilot]

Im stop playing this game about 4 days ago cuz it only give me bad feeling for playing it
and all cleaned the bp

[gilded hull]

nerf model and remove snipers from ta

[formal sphinx]

Can we get an wait timer that is semi accurate? <2 mins doesn’t mean 8 minutes

[proven ibex]

SSMB must be reworked for Finals, it's unplayable now. Bronze and Silver should'nt be there with Gold player. 7/10 games I'm getting silver or bronze if I soloQ. You can't even reach Emerald 4 if you're soloQng , doesn't matter how good you are. You must be fucking lucky to get gold players as teammates.
Imagine playing 3,4 hrs and couldn't even get a win coz of your teammates faults 😅 . Gold soloQs will eventually give up after few days when they realise what they're into.

[rustic birch]

tbh TA and powershift. snipers have no weaknesses besides trying to get close to them, yet lights also have the best movement options to get away

[west anchor]

This game is shit, don't y'all get it? What can a medium do against winch claw? Nothing. Lights only way out is evasive dash and that too has been nerfed. Stupid

[untold willow]

Please make Emerald 1 40 wins from G1 instead of 70, its 40 hours of winning. I am grinding the game with good stacks, everyone has come for S2 ranked to this and they all want E1. 70 would of been ok if it had been the same oppoents but the games are significantly higher now. This is unrealistic for most the finals grinders, even if your playing the game as your full time job

[dusk elm]

Please Embark, make it 1k wins.

[brittle obsidian]

Rework model spray pattern so it isn't effectively a lever action rifle. SA12 and double barrel are incredibly strong but turns useless if you outspace it. Model is oppressive from virtually every range and still does crippling damage.

[subtle saffron]

Have they said anything about adding kbm support to console?

[rugged temple]

If you're dying to backstabs and sniper hip fire that's on you

[quick coyote]

.5 points for reaching the finals towards emerald, 1 point for winning plz

[gilded hull]

is this game rooting for you to lose or something? why is it when i top frag i gain 400 elo in certain games but lose 1300 in others??? ts makes no sense. objective/support score should not matter nearly as much when you have the most combat score and basically wipe out half the opposite team every match.

[proven ibex]

This is better idea.

[fathom escarp]

Kills don't win games. This is an objective based game and the points need to/do reflect that. Play with your team and play the objective to climb the fastest.

[brisk garden]

pls remove kyoto from the map pool. LOW fps

[upper citrus]

Nerf the model 1887 range and spread. The group of pellets that goes dead center is extremely dumb and the shotgun counters the entirety of light

[gilded hull]

this might be one of the worst takes ive ever heard. kills absolutely win games. you cant attack/decrypt the terminal when youre dead, your chances of wiping the other team is lessened greatly when two or even one of your squadmates are dead. anyone can click a button and put a key into a terminal, the only thing preventing you from completing the objective is the enemy players.

[fathom escarp]

The only thing that causes you to win the game is playing the objective. Kills help you win the game but its still and objective based gamemode. You could win the whole game having never killed a soul. Sure, its frustrating to kill a lot and have earned very little; but the problem stems from your kills being meaningless if they don't help you win.

 Lets have an example. If you are on the other side of the map getting a ton of kills but your team can't enter the OBJ and play the game because its a perpetual 2v3, then your kills didn't help the team. In this scenario, your kills lost you and your team the game.

[willow cove]

In the current version, the weapons that large characters can use generally have a short range. Can the heavy machine guns for large characters be remade in the next version? Add a new heavy machine gun, and then modify the values ​​of the original two heavy machine guns, so that the values ​​of the heavy machine guns are balanced based on the rate of fire/damage/recoil/effective range. In this way, each heavy machine gun has at least one advantage. Otherwise, we really can't find the reason why medium characters are not used if they want to play with guns, or why large characters have no other weapons to choose from except hammers and flamethrowers.

[rare stump]

pls improve security ur anticheat is so bad there is lot of aimbots and aim assist ingame now every 2-3 games i get wercked byhackers

[mossy karma]

Melee Heavies were doing totally fine with Goo Gun or Charge N Slam in S2 and im saying this as S2 D2 Sledge heavy main

Winch + Sledge is a cancer combo which ruins other people experience and make them quit the game (I have some friends who dropped Finals because of this)

Here's my ideas how Winch Claw should be reworked:
• CD increased to 10-15 seconds
• Reduce distance from which you can reach the rival with a hook
• Increase the distance between the victim and those who use the Winch Claw by the time grapple animation ends
° Lights are the fastest and are dragged almost as close to the Winch user as they are now
° Mediums are dragged close but out of reach Sledge secondary attack
° Heavies are dragged close but out of reach of Sledge primary and secondary attacks
• Make it possible for victims to shoot and equip/prepare (but not use) gadgets during hook animation
• Fix winch dragging players through obstacles
• Make it impossible to drag people through mesh/dome shields

You might also give this reworked winch to mediums as they lack distance-breaking Specialization for melee setups

[molten trail]

nerf triple defib. biggest clown sht in this game. gadget that takes 0 skill and braindead to use shouldnt win you fights/games. embark dont play their own game 🤡

[vale acorn]

Let me put more stickers on my weapon as well as to choose where they go please and thank you

[analog hearth]

the same. i will enter the game once a week just to do circuit challenges. the hard grind of Emerald is too much for me

[gilded hull]

saying that kills “help” you win the game is an understatement. literally the only thing preventing you from completing the objective is the enemy team.

also, your example is very cherrypicked. kills will 9/10 times be meaningful to the overall performance of your team unless the enemy squad is braindead

its not hard to get kills while also supporting your team and making it through to the objective. the problem is that the game gives you points for interacting with the terminal, while the people actually killing the enemy players dont get shit. youre not contributing much by holding a button after everyone else is dead, and id argue that the people that actually go out and get kills contribute the most.

[ebon cloak]

the one time playing support feels fun

[fathom escarp]

You sure can argue that point. You would be wrong though, as the objective is the point of the game. It's in the name; it is the objective. If you stick with your team and do the objective then you will earn significantly more for yourself. If you want those points, and you think it's not that hard then you should be the one doing it.

My example is not cherrypicked, because I have been both the light doing the killing across the map and the teammate unable to push the OBJ because of the light across the map. I have seen its effects on the team and how much more difficult it becomes to play the game.

[misty jasper]

@fathom escarp @gilded hull y’all are both literally right.. why y’all fighting over stupid shit. You can win TA by doing the objective and also win by killing the whole team.

[dense willow]

I won a WT with 2 lights if i had a nickel for every time this happened I'd have two nickels, which isn't alot but it's weird that it's happened twice

[reef oak]

man idc about all this, just give melee weapons a little more range. to the very least, the dual blades in medium class, i can barely move around whlie fighting others with those things. it feels horrible to play

[twin hatch]

add 3v3

[elder folio]

Delete the rpg and replace it with the law, which whenever you wanna use it you have to go through a lil animation of pulling it out and un-telescoping it so you can use it. (This means the heavy can't use it on reaction and has to commit to it) Also cuz this game has a bunch of unique weapons and then the rocket launcher is just the most basic ass rl you see in everything

[tardy brook]

Keyboard and Mouse support on Consoles please!!!!

[sharp patrol]

Please allow us to re-roll circuit contracts.

I have a very specific contract that's taken me 30hrs in game to get only 4/15: "stop opponents from stealing your cashout or decrypting a terminal 15 times". You might have seen people complaining about this one on reddit. Apparently, "stopping" them entails killing them while they are attempting to steal/decrypt. If they stop stealing/decrypting after you start shooting them, then the "stop" doesn't count. People have also tried to stun them, but this doesn't count either. I don't even like Terminal Attack or Quick Cash, but I'm forced to play them because I want that blue jacket.

Anyways, I think it'd be a good way to give the player agency and a sense of control. We also need a sink for our VRs. I've already bought all the equipment in the game and have been sitting at the cap for weeks now with nothing to spend them on. My girlfriend and a couple of my friends didn't get this contract in their circuit, so I know you guys have a surplus of contracts you're already randomly assigning from. Plus it shouldn't be too big of a lift for the team since you've implemented the system in the past. Please and thank you Embark!

[plucky vessel]

Powershift is for rats and I shouldn't be forced to play 9 matches and do at least 7k dmg in the mode plus another like 5k while standing on the platform to complete the circuit challenges. It gives me so much aids to play that mode.

[molten trail]

nerf triple defib. biggest clown sht in this game. gadget that takes 0 skill and braindead to use shouldnt win you fights/games. embark dont play their own game 🤡

[verbal lintel]

just play with glitch traps and glitch nades -> defib useless

[fluid dawn]

Emerald rewards are just way too hard to get for solo players, the game should make it a bit easier

[reef oak]

increase dual blade range, or at least do something with it, it feels terrible to play

[thin current]

You need 70 tournament wins from gold 1 to get the emerald ak… within only 46 days

[quick coyote]

embark why dont we nerf more guns and all the melees and flame throwers which require no aim should be untouched. Fuck an FPS game why don't we give everyone great melees with blades and we can pretend we are in London?

[cold pilot]

shhhhh...... be careful, they might start doing it😭

[jagged cedar]

there is one good melee besides sledge which is only in the state it is because of winch claw, melees are the easiest weapons in the game to counterplay

[molten trail]

nerf triple defib. biggest clown sht in this game. gadget that takes 0 skill and braindead to use shouldnt win you fights/games. embark dont play their own game 🤡

[misty jasper]

use a glitch mine and quit whining. that shit is easy af to counter if you critically think instead of posting the same dumb message over and over

[opaque meteor]

sir give some balance changes please

[elder panther]

netcode or whatever is so bad. Idk if this just became a thing with 3.8, or beginning of season 3, but it’s essentially unplayable as a light trying to shoot then get behind cover.

I die so many times when i’m even anticipating taking more damage behind cover due to the network issues. It’s been REALLY bad lately, and I feel like it was always pretty solid.

[analog venture]

Why are me and my gold teammate playing a 5 stack of top 20 ruby’s 😭

[molten trail]

nerf triple defib. biggest clown sht in this game. gadget that takes 0 skill and braindead to use shouldnt win you fights/games. embark dont play their own game 🤡

[rough herald]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-20342103

[bitter aspen]

team work gets to you eh?

[fickle linden]

-feedback

[spiral light]

Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

[fickle linden]

This had been a feature before, and I believe it was removed temporarily

[limber vapor]

We played private lobbies for about 2 and a half hours last night, and it might have been the most fun I've had in The Finals in a hot minute. Although if I could provide feedback on one thing, it's the team sorting mechanic, that perhaps if we were allowed to allocate teams while in the private lobby (Ultra Rares, Overdogs etc etc)?
We ended up doing 2v2 and 3v3s which were fine, but when we tried doing 2v2v2, it separated us up into 4v2.

[pseudo breach]

Are daylies bugged? Mine haven't reset for 2 or 3 days now

@fickle linden Just saw that and replied with ID there

[fickle linden]

Please check here -> #1271626897805017141

[quick coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDAwySGOrxo

[worn tapir]

you must win 3 tournaments a day for the next 40 days to get emerald

[mossy karma]

1. Rework SR-84
   • Increase damage to 124
   • Increase time between shots
   • Make it a projectile weapon

2. Buff KS-23
   • Increase damage dealed to Gadgets (Barricades, Aps, etc), Turrets, Goo
   • Let it destroy walls with 2 shots instead of 3
   • Make it hitscan

3. Nerf Throwing Knives
   • Reduce damage or increase time between shots

4. Nerf Model 1887
   • Increase time between shots a little bit
   • Decrease mid/long range damage

5. Nerf XP-54
   • Decrease damage at mid/long range

6. Buff SH1900
   • Decrease bullet spread
   • Buff damage at mid range a little bit

7. Buff R .357
   • Increase damage by 1

8. Nerf / rework / remove Winch Claw
   • #👂┇game-feedback message

9. Rework RPG
   • Reduce damage to 100
   • Uncrease blast radius

10. Nerf Charge N Slam:
    • Set the damage from the initial collision at 60-80 HP, and subsequent collisions at 30-40
    • Increase CD

11. Buff Sledgehammer
    • Make its secondary attack multi-hit

12. Give current Stun Gun or reworked Winch Claw to M as they lack distance-breaking possibilities

13. Rework M melee weapons to make them more viable
    • #👂┇game-feedback message

[versed cipher]

Winch claw is fine imo

[silent grove]

yes bring back sledge multihit
winch is good as is, just don’t let winch go trough riot shild and mesh shield

[rough herald]

nope :)

[quick coyote]

Hasn’t been a thing since the start of S3 i asked one of the CM’s or mods here when it first happened they said it would be fixed in weeks 💀

[upbeat inlet]

All winch needs is an LoS check

[reef lotus]

that would make xp-54 just m11 with a different name

[rough herald]

have you see how much damage it do across the whole practice range?
form what i know it out range akm

[mossy karma]

Buff/Rework Spear
• Increase primary attack range a little bit
• Rework secondary attack:
° Give an option to throw Spear dealing 150-200 damage on hit. CD 10-15 seconds or you can come and grab Spear back like you pick up mines etc. After you throw Spear character can slowly fight with bare hands, dealing 50 damage a hit
° Give Spear lunge with 150-200 damage and increased attack range
° Make current secondary attack connect to every target in range. Currently it doesn't hit targets which stand above or below spear user

[burnt notch]

Anyone else’s game opening at low settings? When I first enter the game shadows look like low setting even though I have it set to medium. I only have to open settings in order to have my settings refresh, but it’s getting annoying to do

[rough herald]

it be so good... it be so cool... if more dev work on the game...

[uncut depot]

[robust patio]

Emerald progression needs to be changed. some people like me don’t have as much time as at the start of summer now. we can’t play all day long grinding 70ish wins to get a skin. and all the sweatlords are going to come back to grind for those skins and it’s literally going to be impossible

[tough sapphire]

The way i see it the so called ranked gamemode for cashout for emerauld skins is : A not fun its just grind for skin B not competitive its just grind C punitive for new players because they simply cannot get the skins right now because again its grind. TA is somewhat better for competitive but it takes so much time and is way less fun (in my opinion).
Honestly what are they doing with cashout, like the change they implented were really fkn good and now they just make cashout a grind game so the lesser amount of players that keeps playing the game just play longer to artificially maintain this game alive. There is no new content its just : keep playing longer you might get a skin that doesnt show to other people you are somewhat good but just that you played the game for an insane amount of time.
How is that a reward ? If i get the skin its not because of my skills but because I just played at least 4h a day (70 wins to get the emerauld skin of the AK like wtf)

[echo panther]

please fix the emerald progression system love u embark

[paper stream]

Thanks Embark for destroying WT for me. I don't give 2 cents about emerald rank - I'm silver. The game is a just one big sweat fest atm. Players retention? You will keep sweats in the game - not sure about casuals like me because you are making the game worse with each season. I don't have high hopes for season 4. I never seen such good game (at release) to deteriorate so fast before...

[abstract wolf]

@pearl kiln tell me how to win gun fight against sword dash player on CONTROLLER as a CONSOLE PLAYER

[tough sapphire]

How is this a feedback bro ?

[gleaming summit]

1. separate solo/duo from 3 stacks, nobody wants to play against 3 stack sweats all day because your MM is total trash. If you always have to play with at least 3 people to play your game, then something is wrong. It's 2024, people have 2-4 hours in the evening, games should be fun....... if the 3 people want to sweat then let them taste their own medicine, I don't even want to know how many have already deleted the game because of it.
2. bring back normal shootergameplay, buff AR/LMG/R93 nerf melee cancer, flamethrower, sword, dagger, throwing knives and shotguns.
3. stop limiting maps this game has hardly any content and then limit it, holy shit!
4. limited loadouts in casual modes like in powershift no longrange weapons like LH/sniper, not only is it annoying but it also ruins the gameflow of the modes.
5. fix your junk netcode, remove that you can choose the region. The only thing you will achieve is that everyone will have a bad experience.
6. and PLEASEEEEEEEEE stop wasting your dev time on pointless modes like TA.

[solar berry]

Yes

[obsidian rover]

Please sort the audio for users with a SoundBlaster soundcard, I have an AE-7 and it just either cuts out, goes mono in one speaker, or just a particular sound (such as throwing an item). This has happened on Windows 10 when using headphones, now Windows 11 it's both, drivers have been updated. This is the only game it happens on.

Fix this issue!!!

[quick coyote]

Hello Can you please add the world tour rankings to the ? Visual icons @pearl kiln

[radiant river]

does any one know how to upload vidoe of a player hacking

[silent grove]

#video-player-reports

[rough herald]

it be so good... it be so cool... if more dev work on the game...

[storm drum]

There is no chance for normal playing….. I won’t say anything about light with a sword and dash, Jeasus….
@tough sapphire
Do something with lobby and sbmm, I do not have 20 hours per day to nolife this game.
And nerf light … that’s the feedback
Also possibility to hook through the wall is also bullshit, many times it’s work like this. Sorry for my language but I am really pissed after 10 games in sweat mode..

[violet elbow]

half of these would be fixed with cashout ranked, specifically the 3 stack one, Embark forcing good players to play WT for cashout and they happen to want to play with friends, its just an issue caused by removing cashout ranked, something nobody asked for.

[smoky basin]

Nerf flamethrower pls

[red echo]

to the guy yesterday who was sending sss to proof light wasnt meta lmao

[covert narwhal]

Nerf the emerald rank grind, I literally have to wither away, spending every waking hour to get to emerald. THAT'S IF I WIN

[proven ibex]

Lol even your loyal players feeling frustrated embark, I echo with this opinion. I thought to give it a try again today. As Gold1 keep on getting silver and bronze n playing against full stack in lobby..I realised there's no point in grinding for emerald. You play 3,4 hours and what you get, nothing..you lose your shit and close the game with hate. SSMB is fkng joke In WT, most of the time I fight with my noob teammates than opponents. I thought I had enough, I put it down today. Yes, I need those Emerald skins but starting the grind in the middle of the season is such a bad idea. Who would announce something like this in any game? It's reasonable if grinding is reasonable. But whoever you're seeing in leaderboard are full time players with stacks. We have a life geez...And the least we talk about matchmaking the better it is...Just forget it, I know it's not possible for SoloQs.

[solar berry]

I AGREE WITH THIS NERFFFF EMERALD!!‼️🔥

[flint bone]

Who know, when changing task - Stop 15 cashouts?

[echo panther]

+1

[stoic zinc]

Does anyone else got the issue with no new daily challenges?

[late flower]

How high are you willing to set your sensitivity

[quick coyote]

still waiting for the Light nerf ?

[abstract wolf]

BRO, even i have the highest sens on the fkin game i still wont be able kill those little brat, it's not sensitivity and reaction time, controller CANT flick aim left and right that high on single time. even i rank gold 2 on world tour i play against the most insane light player in every lobbies

[candid wagon]

my game keeps crashing any tips on how to resovle the issue pc is fully upto date

[weak ore]

I feel like we need a way of surrendering or get some consolation points in ranked when someone leaves

[rough herald]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[bold saffron]

have the multiple animations play one after the other not when you switch to another slot and switch back, or at least have a setting to allow that please

[blissful smelt]

nerf AKM pls
but not too fastly, I am starting using it

[glacial sierra]

truncating screen names when there is that much UI space seems silly anyway...but at least just truncate what's too long, rather than everything but the first letter or two?

i didn't want to report either of these players, but if i did, having their named truncated makes it a lot harder.

[dusty fox]

When the game doesn't want you to win, you get kicked out by a teammate out of the middle leaving your team at a disadvantage 🤦🏻‍♂️

[fast basin]

Yeah the finals mode is impossible for solo q players, with the match making with players that shouldn’t even compete on this mode, S3 is basically one dissapointment after the other

[jaunty prism]

BRO emerald 1 is a crazy grind,I'm just going for the emerald sticker

[storm drum]

Its not just on emerald

[teal timber]

I think 70,000xp(and possible increasing) for leveling battlepass is a lil too much

[quasi niche]

My honest reaction

[quaint jetty]

Nerf throwing knives

[abstract ravine]

Making the sniper and bow have bullet travel/drop (just a little, not Ghost Recon/Squad levels) would unironically be an incredible change. Raising the skill floor and skill ceiling is a face value really sweaty "nerf" that would usually be bad, but doing this would actually probably lower the skill ceiling. Way too much is possible imo with these weapons right now combined with their conjunction with Light class, and they're way too versatile for what they're supposed to be. Changing it in this way makes it harder for anyone to just jump in to the class and instantly pop off, but also prevents really good players from being too good; at least more often than not.

[dusty fox]

@proven ibex Agree

[cursive lotus]

This chat, honestly everyone wants everything nerfed. Like come on that’s crazy, it’s a fun game, just practice and you’ll get good.

[split mason]

Another day another new account in matchmaking sniping with walls, has this company every heard of a HWID ban?????????

[wooden shuttle]

The problem with that is that a lot of the weapons on light and medium (model, mp5, m11, throwing knives, lh1 etc)have too high dps which heavily punishes melee weapon users (aside from sword) the ttk is just too high sometimes if you are melee

[fluid dawn]

Yea 70 full tournament and WIN them all . That’s a nightmare if you’re playing solo. That’s like 40 hours of JUST WINNING BACK TO BACK TO BACK

[wise jolt]

75 tourney wins is a death wish for soloq players. its ridiculous. i dont have a consistent 3 stack. im a dedicated player, i play this game every day and i KNOW i wont be able to get to emerald 1 because i have to deal with randoms while encountering stacks. its not always stacks ofcourse. but with luck alone i wont be able to get it. This is just stupid man. im really let down and world tour has gotten so much more frustrating because u have to play for the win otherwise it feels like ur wasting time.
I love this game and i always will, but this is just a nightmare

[echo panther]

emerald progression is insane for soloq players and even for players in a group its such a gamble everytime you play for hours

[pastel cypress]

I hate that sometimes I have a game then search for another just to to get the same random teammates

[quick coyote]

I think the idea that the entire platinum rank is 30k-50k is just ridiculous, why is it not 30k-40k… to fit the aesthetic appeal or what?!?!

[jagged cradle]

3rd PARTY STRATEGY Issues is KILLING the Finals at tournament style play - WT especially at EMERALD tier. This problem will be worse when ranked cash out will return ( Will post this every day untill more is done about it )

PROBLEM - If you want to win, there is absolutely no incentive other than to 3rd party. and in competitive plays, players will always opt for the high return strat.

WHAT HAS BEEN DONE:

• Cash box initiations bonus - it's GREAT, encourages players to play the objective
• Cash box deposit - it's GREAT, same as above
• Kill reward increase - it's GREAT, encourages core game mechanics
• Team elimination penalty - this needs to be bumped back up to increase the stake and risk

PROPOSED SOLUTION:

• Additional "Objective proximity" based cash rewards, between 30 - 50% of current cash box reward, for defending + attacking players.
• players could over time in real time, receive the 30-50% cash bonus as they attack or defend the objective.
• this forces players to engage the objective instead of lurking for two teams to nearly finish each other off and then third party.
• Additionally, if a team decides to 3rd party and wait they will miss out on potential $$$$ that could dictate being knocked out or qualifed
• however, the reward amount and proximity size will take time to zero in since, players will definitely try to find exploits.

This is a sandbox game and so 3rd party strategy is something that should exist in the game. But it shouldn't be the highest reward and return strategy.
It can be a desperate strategy for desperate times

As of now even if a team is 3rd parted for two times, and is unable to secure the two initial cash out providing they diligently initiated and deposited the cash box, they can still win if they secure the last cash box, ONLY if they have enough kills to back it up

Too many days, with too many matches where every game has 3rd party strat teams... It is no longer an optional strategy but a really demoralizing META PLAY

[nocturne fern]

can we add a map ban/ map queue like csgo bc if i have to play kyoto again im gonna lose it. edit. just got kyoto after queue 🙂 taking the 10 min ban instead of playing that shit

[cosmic narwhal]

adding in a ready up button would be so nice

[echo urchin]

https://youtu.be/jHf6dkgXfVg?si=DWbADIpPGHUXVhbW

[boreal quarry]

Another reminder to make First Fray Doodles continue onto the legs

[copper anchor]

My game alt tabs out randomly and I have to click again to get back in it. Please advise

[sand arch]

daily quests didn't refresh is it a bug?

[fresh gull]

NERF LIGHT WEAPONS most ridiculous OP weapons ever. 🙄

[hollow ingot]

And more comprehensive private match customisation would be nice quality of life

[nocturne fern]

just got kyoto again. alt f4'd @silent fog love the hate and slander bro, keep it up king

[potent glacier]

The Amount of Players that use Zipline* to go down: 0

[silent grove]

I use it to go down

[rough herald]

you mean zipline?
jumping down is much faster

[green geode]

why does embark just keep shoving kyoto down our throat it u play that map like fking 60 % of the time

[quick coyote]

Emerald grind is way too much, at least make it so you get 1 point for reaching the final round and 2 for winning.

[autumn shale]

anyone wanna play valorant d1 oce !!! - add cs map picking

[silent fog]

Please just take kyoto out of WT and TA or give me some way to avoid that awful map. I get you put a lot of work in it, it looks great, but gameplay wise it is really bad

[novel lily]

Since everyone hates getting near impossible contracts, make it so you can reroll contracts on the career circuits for VR's. Just make it so the challenger Circuit reroll costs 250 VR's, the pro circuit ones cost 500 VR's, and the Masters Circuit ones cost 1000 VR's, its a simple solution that saves people the trouble of going into this channel to complain

[fallen raptor]

My first impressions of the 10% cash loss is that I dislike it more than 30% cash loss and no cash loss. I haven't felt like it has made much difference yet and so it gets annoying to try and remember it exists when it actually matters. My default thought process is team deathmatch mode as the cash loss is often negligeable even at higher cash numbers, then I randomly have to do a mindset switch and play safe which just kills the flow I had.

[echo panther]

does anyones game randomly frezze?

[granite leaf]

My only complaint for this game is the skill based match making for ranked terminal attack. I already know that i am in the minority of people that like ranked TA, but it is my favorite game mode when there is a balanced lobby. The only problem is that a balanced lobby only happens 1/10 games. When i was getting my rank i won 9 out of the 10 games and was ranked bronze 1, then the game constantly put all bronze or unranked on my team, and all silver and gold on the other. So i went on to lose about 10 games in a row and was dropped into bronze 4. And the game still puts me with bronze on my team and silver and gold on the other team. It just doesn't make any sense that someone ranked in bronze has to consistently play against silver and gold without silver and gold players ever being on my team. I just want balanced teams.
Anyone else facing this issue?

[glacial sierra]

@ the devs or marketing team or whoever.

i wrote a (positive) steam review for the finals ages ago. it has disappeared. weird. not sure why. you should probably reach out to valve and understand that as it'll fuck with stats and % if it's more widespread than just me (which i should i imagine it is, i've changed nothing recently).

edit:// didn't mean to reply to you mate sorry

[flat solstice]

This game will not get better. It hasn’t gotten better since the beginning. They focused way too much effort on bringing in new players an little effort on keeping their existing players. Meta hasn’t changed since beta.

[solar berry]

Nice matchmaking brothers good job put more bronze ppl in my team

[stable spear]

Definitely feel like 15-25% is the sweet spot. Third partying has definitely gotten worse this time around. They need to make defending a cash out more of a focus for sure. I think incentivizing it by giving cash over the time of the cash out would work beautifully. Could still incentivize stealing by giving 40% (or a similar number)of the cash out at the end 🤷‍♂️

[young smelt]

They do not have a large enough player base to do this. They don’t have enough players as is with 5 minute queue times and still awful matchmaking.

[polar phoenix]

hello guys. what is your opinion on a noscope icon for the death log?

[nocturne fern]

well atleast map bans

[hollow iron]

Everyone would collectively ban kyoto and the game would still play the exact same

[copper inlet]

A new game mode concept - A simple concept which consists of 16+ players called THE HUNT

1 player should be allocated say 10.000+ hp the rest allocated normal xp
The aim of the game is to hunt the 10.000+ hp player
when the 10.000+ hp player dies it goes to a random player which then become the hunted
the player with the most kills wins

you can only be the hunted once
you can play any load out within the game on any character of your choice

[green geode]

if i play kyoto one more time i commit sudoku

[rough herald]

be so cool if more dev work on the game

[boreal quarry]

Vegas Sandstorm worst map

[echo urchin]

Vegas sandstorm is awesome for movement: slide on the dunes. Kyoto is awesome you just have to change your tactics; they even fixed the stairs.

Zero points unless you win the final in Emerald is asinine.

[elder folio]

Juggernaut?

[earnest sierra]

they really need to nerf the xp recoil

[rocky verge]

map on moon would slap

[brittle dirge]

Yall are trash when it comes to the penalties

[true harness]

Please consider changing the requirements for Emerald tiers in World Tour. It's quite literally mathematically impossible for most people given the amount of time left in the season, and it's killing any reason to play the game now. (And yes, I'm currently a Gold 1.)

[oblique spindle]

Why the hell is emerald such a grind. I get that it should be for the most dedicated but its not even sbmm. You have people that have played the game since day one queuing up to curb stomp casuals to get through emerald.

[young smelt]

Some people like it. The problem with Kyoto is that it was clearly built for Terminal Attack and not cash out. So it works for TA but for cash out it’s a horrible map.

[quick coyote]

i love it 😳

[hollow kernel]

Dailys dont reset

[fiery solar]

Please for the love of god add punishment for constantly and consistently leaving in casual. It is frustrating to lose a round because two morons leave the team just because platform moved an inch in hostile direction, instead of trying to actually play the game. It feels more like they're playing "find that one match where you can win for the challenge" rather than the actual game itself. It is consistent enough that it's legitimately frustrating to see a casual match thrown by two people leaving within first minutes of the round.

[civic igloo]

has been reported and is being looked into #1271626897805017141 message

[thin current]

Please lessen the Emerald grind, this is mathematically impossible to achieve and only a very small amount of people will get even close to the emerald AK, 70 tournament wins from Gold 1 to get emerald ak. The previous patch with increased points for wins was a step in the right direction, but not enough. 46 more days left of the season is a huge time crunch given the current requirements of casual to dedicated players.

[paper stream]

Embark wrote that Emerald rank is for the most dedicated and committed player base - so not for most people. I don't really see a problem with that. Emerald is for a few percent of the player base putting a shit ton of hours.

[oblique spindle]

In what they said was going to be a casual game mode this season. Its not good having people trying to just have a good time playing against those who are going for the rewards when it requires them to win

[quick coyote]

I will try my best to get to Emerald, I know it’s a grind but then you know those who got it actually deserve it.

(Besides those who abuse light class - it’s their peak) Let’s quit rewarding lower tier players just to make them feel better.

[patent wind]

1.5 wins a day?? Oh my god thats so many

[wooden shuttle]

That’s not even the biggest issue, it just feels like you played for nothing if you don’t win a waste of time

[neat solstice]

Thoughts please.... Is there a way we could set up a tourney like how it used to be with 4 rounds but every one pays 35 bucks to participate? Have 6 of those happening at the same time to have a winners tourney at the end of it? Have This be hosted bi-weekly? Id donate money to have embark gift a team or 2 to participate

[cursive lotus]

I suggest wizard outfit lol

[brittle obsidian]

Let us buy old battle passes

[echo urchin]

1. Emerald isn’t a ranked mode with SBMM; it’s supposed to be a grind mode. That means, if you play a lot, you should be gradually unlocking the reward. If you’re really good, you unlock the reward faster. Do you people know what the word “dedicated”means? Because you keep using it but then describe criteria that rewards a player’s skill level, not their dedication.

2. Even in ranked modes, you get points for a good performance even if you lose the match or tournament. You also get matched with and against people in a way designed to have you fight in your weight class. While in WT, it’s a fucking free for all unless you’re a triple stack of pro streamers.

So, no, the zero points unless you win the whole tournament is not a tenable system for what was advertised as a grind mode. The WT system was a perfect grind mode system. If they want it to be a more difficult grind then they should give less points for qualification relative to what they were in WT, or even only give points for making it to or winning the final.

[fiery solar]

I will reiterate. Please, please, PLEASE. Add a punishment of some form for constantly and consistently leaving casual matches. This is a second match that was THROWN by two people leaving the moment it seemed to even slightly go to the enemy. It's frustrating as hell to play when the playtime goes out the window just because people have the "win challenge". They don't play the game, they just play "find the one match where you can win." Trying to solo queue in this situation is absolute hell and makes it downright impossible to get any match that actually feels remotely fair because two chucklefucks leave within first minute, then the next two who rejoin leave as well because of course the match is already a loss.

[green vigil]

On world tour, why is there not a weapon skin for each class on each emerald stage rather than having to be emerald 1 for the akm

[brisk garden]

lots of silver spoon babies in here begging for emerald rewards.** SKILL ISSUE**

but I agree that it sucks when you waste 30 minutes by getting second

[robust helm]

nyone wanna play valorant d1 oce !!! - add cs map picking

[marble prawn]

ive noticed the game doesnt always count your revives or kills right

[atomic delta]

its getting old by now, but just remove TA, it doesnt fit, its not fun. its just a waste of time. Even if you win, it doesnt feel rewarding imo.

[true harness]

No, it's borderline unattainable for even the most dedicated players. You have to have both a strong 3-stack and no life. You have to win a minimum of almost 2 tourneys every single day until the end of the season. That's unattainable for practically 99% of players.

https://youtu.be/BDAwySGOrxo?si=PP6SoHotdLZw6M5o

[silent fog]

46 x 3 = 138, you need 75 for em 1. Where did you get 3 wins every day from?

[earnest sierra]

i have 500 hours in this game but because i'm a solo player without a good team it's literally impossible to win

what annoy me the most abt this game that it's a team based game without 2 good mates you will never win how hard u try or how good u are u need to be playing vs garbage players to win 1v9 or you will never do it solo it's literally impossible to win vs 9 players and another time in the second round vs 9 players and then another time vs 3 players who is so good to be in the final round

[crystal umbra]

Every other team has MMH again and since I'm playing light they swap to LLL

And since they don't know wtf they are doing they just die.

Soft throwing.

[echo urchin]

“Skill issue” That shit applies to Ruby or other skill based rewards.

Emerald isn't a ranked mode with SBMM; it's supposed to be a grind mode. That means, if you play a lot, you should be gradually unlocking the reward. If you're really good, you unlock the reward faster, but even the filthy low skill players should have a shot at Emerald 1 if they are DEDICATED enough to endure the grind and slowly earn the points.

“If everyone has it then it’s a participation trophy and doesn’t mean anything”

1. Not everyone would be dedicated enough to grind for Emerald 1 even if the point system was fixed.

2. Even if literally everyone did, it would still mean something, it would mean each person who has it was dedicated enough to endure the grind and earn the reward.

So, no, the zero points unless you win the whole tournament is not a tenable system for what was advertised as a grind mode. Ffs, even in ranked modes you get points for a good performance during a lose.

The WT system was a perfect grind mode system. If they want Emerald to be a more difficult grind then they should give less points for everything but a tournament win, relative to what they were in WT. They could also only give points for making it to or winning the final. That would still be a more reasonable grind than what we have now.

[sharp briar]

Please can you add eating the flesh of your enemies. I wish to flay and eat those who dare oppose my plight.

[south sorrel]

stun gun HAS NO PLACE IN THIS GAME revert the buffs for the love of god

[paper stream]

75 wins for Emerald 1 - 46 days left - you need to win 1.5 tourney a day. My point is different - it's not a rank for everyone - even if only 50 people get it. I'm silver 1 currently - I won 4 tournaments today playing solo. Player 1 in the Emerald rank has currently 65 wins - the guys in the middle (page 25/50 in the leaderboard) have 20 wins. So a few days for these guys to get it. No one expects you to get Emerald 1 if you are playing solo and I don't mind that.

[upbeat ore]

uninstalled today, for a little while. Diamond was a great grind last season. This season, rewards are much more catered only to the top 500/1000 players with several hours to play a day. I hope that next season you guys will get back to your stated intention for ranked; that it should be accessible for almost any dedicated player

[south viper]

Despite what all the sweaty nerds that play this game 10hrs every single day in a 3 stack say, 75 wins is way too much of a grind

[bleak nexus]

As a sniper main I will say there is a MASSIVE sniper glare issue, especially paired with invisible. The glare is impossible to see depending on what is behind the sniper. Any bright colors, and you are not going to see them. Especially when it takes less than a second for them to ads and kill when invisible

[pseudo latch]

Day 138 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

Samch

[clever niche]

Every game today I have been put into faraway servers, constant lag with good internet 😦

[robust patio]

i will not be getting any cool stuff from WT or TA this season because i happen to have a life. really nice

[quick coyote]

Light class isn’t WEAK - they are STRONG if played CORRECTLY.

Let the strong filter out the weak, only a good light player deserves to make it. 💯

[bleak nexus]

Katana skin looks too thick and big for lights look. Maybe it can adjusted a little bit?

[placid glade]

The light is difficult to use, but once you get the hang of it, I think it's really powerful.

[solar berry]

https://tenor.com/view/jobless-gif-26722464

[sonic spoke]

Saturday mornings are SWEATY!

[timber bronze]

+1

[obtuse radish]

thanks lol

[glacial knot]

You are right soon you put aimbot on xp-54 like most of light players do, light will be powerfull, i play this game since close beta, and light can survive without aimbot only with evasive dash , knife or sword. Otherwise light doesnt resist damage, and fire, are only one shot by rpg and mines. Most light use aimbot they down a heavy before he even switch from weapon to rpg .

[warped hearth]

TA is no fun 🫠

[storm drum]

Why you won’t put Console Crossolay? Or M&K on console?

[silver delta]

What you think about "Loadouts" in The Finals? Means: saving your custom setup (Skin + Weapon). 😄 It would be cool, if we can have that.

[trail terrace]

delete kyoto map

[storm nexus]

Anybody else wish for a small movement ability for the medium class? it has melee options as weapons but feel they are just a tad slow for doing it. Maybe a short run boost or something like that?

[vast lark]

No it Gucci

[crystal umbra]

As buffed as the light class has been this season, world tour has shown that the light class still has no place in the meta.

The more I play competitive Finals, is the more I want to suggest MHL role lock (BUT I CANT BECAUSE THE PLAYER COUNT IS STILL TOO LOW TO IMPOSE THAT KIND OF RESTRICTION)
And meta worriers would cry too much about it.

Tbh I'm just frustrated because I see my favorite way of playing is not working anymore, so there's that

---

Its mandatory that I run glitch grenades against MMH to counter the mesh + dome shields and hopefully bait their defibs and heals

I suggest we buff the glitch grenade:
-Make them detonate on impact
-Make the throw Litterally faster(grenade travels faster)
Increase AOE radius

Or

-Makes the grenade glitch anything inside radius regardless of LOS
(These would make it much more effective)

Anyways, the real problem is that I was probably playing against a full team that was communicating, they were probably better than me because there is factually no SBMM lol. And they had more health + defibs and heals beams.

I wonder if there are any plans to create features to have us play together and have that become a culture in THE FINALS?

[mossy karma]

1. Rework SR-84
   • Increase damage to 124
   • Increase time between shots
   • Make it a projectile weapon

2. Buff KS-23
   • Increase damage dealed to Gadgets (Barricades, Aps, etc), Turrets, Goo
   • Let it destroy walls with 2 shots instead of 3
   • Make it hitscan

3. Nerf Throwing Knives
   • Reduce damage or increase time between shots

4. Nerf Model 1887
   • Increase time between shots a little bit
   • Decrease mid/long range damage

5. Nerf XP-54
   • Decrease damage at mid/long range

6. Buff SH1900
   • Decrease bullet spread
   • Buff damage at mid range a little bit

7. Buff R .357
   • Increase damage by 1

8. Nerf / rework / remove Winch Claw
   • #👂┇game-feedback message

9. Rework RPG
   • Reduce the damage to 100
   • Increase blast radius

10. Nerf Charge N Slam:
    • Set the damage from the initial collision at 60-80 HP, and subsequent collisions at 30-40

11. Buff Sledgehammer
    • Make its secondary attack multi-hit

12. Rework M melee weapons to make them more viable
    • #👂┇game-feedback message

13. Buff 93r
    • Increase damage from a bullet by 1-2

14. Buff/Rework Spear
    • #👂┇game-feedback message

15. Rework Defibrillator
    • Reduce reviving time
    • Reduce amount of HP restored

16. Rework Stun Gun
    • #👂┇game-feedback message

17. Give reworked Stun Gun or Winch Claw to M as they lack distance-breaking possibilities

18. Buff FCAR
    • Increase damage from a bullet by 1

19. Buff Glitch Grenade
    • Increase blast radius
    • Increase throwing speed

[brittle obsidian]

Medium keeps getting its support and utilities nerfed just because it always has at least 1 gun that is way too good for a support class (old fcar, model). Defib healing beam spam would not be nearly as oppressive if mediums couldn't dish out 120 damage from 20 meters in a single shot... 6 times per mag. Nerf the model, not the only unique tools that medium has.

Another problem with medium is its support utilities far outdo all other gadgets and specials in terms of raw value. Medium needs more unique gadgets, as well as improvements to the less used specials. Turret can be incredibly inconsistent with its tracking, so to improve it it could automatically lock on to any player that you attack or attacks you (if they're in line of sight to the turret). Dematerialize's inconsistency mostly comes from how some maps will layer many pieces of wall on top of each other that needlessly take additional charges, and to get rid of this problem for good, give demat infinite charges, theres already a cap on the number of dematted surfaces, and an artificial delay between opening and closing, so infinite charges really wouldn't be all that game-breaking. Glitch could also close up dematted surfaces as an additional negative interaction.

[wooden shuttle]

Honestly giving spear to medium and dual blades to heavy with some tweaks would be sick. Spear is too similar to sledge and dual blades are too similar to riot

[hollow flume]

fuck this ass shotgun, 30 dmg????

[timid steeple]

Do you think the medium with it's lower health pool would be able to last trying to use the spin move? Cool ideas

[quick coyote]

.5 for reaching the finals towards emerald, 1 for winning.

[glacial knot]

Look how this streamer his aim stick on target, clearly he is using aimbot but devs dont ban him because he advs the game for them. As i already said i play this game since close beta and this way of aiming starts with season 3 where so much cheaters joined the game. @wise jolt Dont explain me nothing the dynamic fov let it looks like human fault. I spy many cheat providers to study how there cheats works you dont need to explain me

[wise jolt]

hes clearly really good at the XP, i see human error in those beams. i dont see aimbot, @glacial knot ur just mad ur getting beamed. fun fact; good people dont miss half their mags. go look at Balise stream and u can see them play

[pallid tangle]

Buff flamethrower.

[south viper]

75 wins is way too much.

[quick coyote]

Quick Fix for Throwing Knives:
Remove right click attack, only keep alt fire - therefore light class will need to line the shot up, similar to the bow, keeping the same if not slightly nerfed damage, that way it’s no longer spamable.

TAKE KYOTO OUT OF WT FOR 2 FUCKING WEEKS PLEASE

[tribal spoke]

Please buff the dual blades, they're in terrible shape rn, if they weren't fun I would have dropped them cause I'm handicapping myself by using them

[lone obsidian]

go watch killuminati playing the finals on youtube theres vids way older than season 3, people can beam that well at the extreme top end this isnt aim bot tier

[twilit torrent]

I mean i think this is more about how xp54 is broken and outclasses every other mid-close range weapon. It also has extremely easy recoil to control

[quick coyote]

no.

[wooden shuttle]

With a reworked version obviously XD, hence “with tweaks”

[sonic thorn]

Game used to be fun now it’s just frustrating

[echo panther]

i hate the emerald system i hate it

[rough herald]

it'll be so cool if more dev work on the game

@glacial knot cod gamer give the most brain dead name lmao

They keep it simple tho, i appreciate that lol

[pallid tangle]

yes.

[hardy bridge]

My take on these

1. The damage and firing speed is interesting but I don't think projectiles are the way to go
2. agreed
3. Tks are honestly fine, firing speed nerf could work with some other buff
4. 1887 is fine, I'd change the spread pattern
5. Fair
6. Db is actually cracked it doesn't need buffs
7. Agreed
8. Winch shouldn't stunlock you
9. Rpg change would be fine but other h weapons would need buffs
10. Charge is fine, maybe have the damage ramp up
11. Agreed
12. Riot is interesting
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[drowsy relic]

@fiery hill Get someone on your team to sort out the cheating

[glacial knot]

@twilit torrent @lone obsidian you are just justifying cheating, at season 1 and season 2 such gameplay got banned. After verifying stats. Accuracy, headshot rates , stickness etc. In COD most streamers cheats but they never get shadwo banned because they are white listed, if someone else try tonplay like streamers get shadow banned so fast. There is also flickbot, its an triggerbot and aimbot in one, soon you are on target the aimbot lock and triggerbot start shooting and this calls flickbot, i can mention many cheat providers who offer such cheats but i dont want to advs them. So you can explain to little kids that on this video is humain aim but not to me . @uneven coral i did dont worry i shared it here to open the legit players eyes to report such gameplays and not think they are jus bad

[graceful lion]

remove low gravity after all. absolutely everyone and his mom hates it

[smoky gust]

I think if winch acted kind of like grapple and pulled the heavy to a spot instead of pulling enemies to them it would be fine

Heavies can still use it for melee combat
But aware enemies can sidestep it and get away before the heavy reaches them

It just shouldnt send the heavy upwards as well, just horizontal

It would make winch way less frustrating and possibly allow for some funny combos and strategies

[uneven coral]

Seems like you are naive.
First of all the Devs explicitly made a Chat Thread in this server where you can directly report a cheater if you provide a video and a match code.
Additionally, double check the video you watched, there are parts where he hits the legs, if that is aimbot at bodyshots, you'll likely be killed by players who know how to do headshots. Remember if a Light gets headshot by an AKM even you shoot first, the light will still most likely die if the Medium shot all head.
If you insist with this, then go report it there.

[tawny oriole]

i personally stopped playing TA because of the cheaters, now since the emarld rank was unlocked and you can win weapon skins, you also can found them in world tour as well . The devs should not make the same mistake as COd. More and more i see people switching to pve as co op games. One day there will only be people running with a cheat in a pvp shooter game and legit all pve games.

[outer jetty]

Buffing the SPEAR!

• This weapon, Is a huge downgrade then a sledgehammer, So here's my ideas for it.

- Buffing (Primary) attack speed by +20%.
- Buffing (Secondary) spin speed by doubling speed by 1.5 times, At least, So it can re-spin again.
- Buffing (Secondary) instead of the spear hitting but the radius zone instead, Clockwise style spin.
- Buffing (Secondary) while at spin, Damage resistance by 15% from any damage, To support the heavy class.```
Overall, This should receive a positive outlook, Instead of playing the weak heavy.

`Edit`: Damage Resistance from **25% to 15%**, I don't know if it would be better less or better more, Depends how painful it's to eliminate a heavy, It's basically testing, But can't be tested without any custom game support of changing values of any item, or giving an option to code-in stuff to implant those stuff.

Bad Matchmaking

• Something went wrong, Or maybe the number of players there are in-total. That aren't in the same skill rating. Having this issue since 3.8.0 Released. Playing as gold, And playing with diamonds and higher-up in the top 100, And fighting against a squad of discord, It's harder when i solo, or even with friends, The once with more hours and more wins, Just makes matchmaking worse. There should be away to improve matchmaking again.. Difficult to say, But it's even harder for my friends to play with me, Because i play in a higher skillset, and my friends just started to play Season 3, And they are less skilled and i'm playing in a higher skillset. And impossible to give my friends to learn the game instead getting destroyed. I hope this gets tweaked all i care hopefully the devs/community managers sees this.

Custom Games should be improved

• Custom Games should be have all the options to change anything from anything, Even if the game crashes. At a way i can change any weapon or time events/timed anything, values of damage and fire rate speed such stuff like that. -----

[coral cosmos]

bad matchmaking, i solo que as silver and i get Emerald in enemy team

[potent solar]

crazy how the light is OP talk disappeared once the competitive players came back... its almost like the meta never changed

[latent niche]

Demat idea: option to use 2 charges to copy the wall in addition to demat-ing it so I can place that section of wall anywhere.
Being able to place a wall on the powershift platform, giving usefulness to demat in more scenarios especially powershift. It's balanced since there are already so many destruction capabilities in the game why not give medium the first real construction ability!!

[dire raft]

Dailys bugged?
Yesterday and today no refresh

[tardy jacinth]

75 wins from Gold 1 to Emerald 1 is a bit much for anyone who works a full-time job. Is there any way to extend the season?

[lilac solstice]

is there any OTHER uses for VRs cuz ive been at max since after the first 1/4 of season 3

[white socket]

fix zipline placement

[quick coyote]

Light is bad design that isn't fun to play against for the most part. People say its OP but its really just annoying to play against, and their scores often don't reflect in the team results. I don't understand why vanish bomb is in the game if one of their specialties is the same thing. Being able to dash melee from a vanish bomb is just annoying to play against. In context of the entire round, it might not be OP, but its OP 1v1 and annoying to play against in that exact moment. No warning, no real counter, just dead. Hitscan sniper rifle is also really lame and lazy.

[flint jungle]

People who reach gold 1 and want to be emerald and the casual ones should be separated on the world tour.

It makes no sense that you are on emerald 4 and they put you with silver 2 people who only play casually.

[tame crag]

Emerald should not have been so competitive in the first place in my opinion. Introducing that competitiveness goes against the ability to test fun changes to world tour.

[echo panther]

my idea wt was never meant to be competetive we have ranked for that because we never even lost points for losing in the mode

[sour rapids]

When will the next community event be

[zinc lance]

add this.

[paper oak]

give the option to increase mouse sensitivty on aim down sight.

[long vector]

i feel like if this game had colabs it could bring alot of people back to play. there could be events like a special map for the cowboys event. i think people would love running around as there favorite video game, show carracter.

[crisp oxide]

melee heavy is the worst thing to happento this game since it launched

[potent solar]

getting aped by a double movement med and either 1 shot or sniped by a model, or jumped on by double heavy dome mesh rpg one shotted followed by sa12 1 hit is fun to play against? over and over? for 3 seasons is not an 'annoyance'?

there is skill progression on the table to beat lights 1v1, the only way to beat the meta is to join them and hope you win the short burst fight. I assure you once you get to a higher level you will giggle with happiness at the sight of an enemy light, free meal my dude.

from literally 5 mins ago, from one of the best in the game
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2220667288?t=08h51m50s

[quick coyote]

sorry, but that guy clearly isn't cheating. theres nothing special about that clip you showed lol

[outer jetty]

Gamemode idea: Banning tournament

• Banning one weapon for classes.

• All votes all together to pick what item to pick to ban, And also shows data for Devs what gets banned for letting them notice what weapons should be nerfed.

• This also gives for high flexibility players play. With different loadouts.

• Here's conditions:
  If no one picks either no teams, Nothing will banned. But if 3 teams don't pick but one team did. It would banned what that one team picked. Everyone gets the effect-ban.

Emerald Rank should be in the normal League-Play!

• The idea of adding ANOTHER! Tab of a gamemode called "The Finals", What's the point of adding it, If World Tour Is a thing, The ranked gamemode that we all love, But also adding Terminal Attack Ranked with his own rewards as well and ignoring World Tour, So what's the point of playing World Tour Ranking. Get to Gold 1, You finished World Tour, And i don't think alot of people like Terminal Attack Ranked, Because of the extreme tryharders. Anyways, The Gamemode The Finals shouldn't exist if you continuously adding more and more gamemodes and people would be separated, Anyways, The Emerald rank should be next to diamond instead.

I feel like this isn't like this.
League Matchmaking:

• Unranked <-> Bronze 3-4-5
• Bronze 1-2 -> Silver 4-5
• Silver 3-4-5 <-> Silver 2-3
• Silver 1-2 -> Gold 4-5
• Gold 4-5 <-> Silver 1-2
• Gold 1-2-3 <-> Gold 1-2-3
• Platinum 3-4-5 <-> Platinum 3-4-5
• Platinum 1-2 <-> Platinum 1-2
• Diamond Any <-> Diamond (Top Diamonds)
  Whenever you are ranked, You are max stuck in that zone until you rank up.

League Matchmaking Fail-safe:

• Unranked <-> Unranked
• Bronze Any <-> Bronze Any
• Silver Any <-> Bronze 1 // Silver Any
• Gold Any <-> Silver 1-2
• Platinum Any <-> Gold 1 // Platinum Any
• Diamond Any <-> Platinum 1 // Higher Diamonds

[glacial knot]

Watch the video again his aim stick always all the time on the same body part, i think all of you here are cheaters and try to justify cheating. @olive wraith

[fringe adder]

gg world tour was finaly fun but with the new update they ruined it

[upbeat ore]

In an effort to make Ranked and Casual fun for everyone, both modes have been completely taken over by only the sweatiest, highest level players. Diamond and Emerald rewards are out of reach for 99% of players. I have 500 hours, was Diamond last season and feel completely outclassed in every WT lobby. I hope that next season ranked/grind modes are drastically reconsidered

[rough herald]

Theres always people negitive about every changes :(

You like what you like man but most people vote for it

@worn tapir team wipe penalty was 30% then 0% and now people voted for 10%

[worn tapir]

what did they even do

[vast elbow]

Emerald sucked out all of the enjoyment from WT for me. It's not even the fact that it takes 70 wins. I don't care that much about the rewards. I'm getting much worse teammates than before, uneven matchmaking, it's just constant frustration and mixing casual and competitive was a horrible idea. It just feels like for solo players it is entirely up to chance and the odds are against you.

[olive wraith]

This isn't aimbot..? That aim looks perfectly human to me.

[quick coyote]

Nope. You're not understanding. I severely dislike playing against them. Its not that I do badly against them really. I don't. I just cringe at the sight of a triple light team. Its just not fun to play against.

[south viper]

Yeah it's made it unplayable for me

[livid spruce]

Gib alternative to fomo. You shouldn't be locked out of cool cosmetics because you started later than others its dumb.

Cool game tho, kiss kiss Embark.

[elder umbra]

i though "the final" cashout new update will be much better , but it turns even worst than i though , need to win final round to earn 1 point , i think i still prfer elo system that earn point win each round

[noble patrol]

Could not agree more

[eager ivy]

bro wut is world tour now its just team deathmatch u legit dont need get cashout just kills lmao

[silent grove]

we have heavy gl medium gl where is the light grenade launcher

[young hamlet]

...jumpad, demat, zipline, etc

[potent solar]

No one who is good is finds them so annoying that they are constantly screaming for their nerfs, thats what it boils down to. I understand perfectly.

In high ranks most LOVE playing against them and hate playing WITH them because they are underpowered. All you guys have done is made them even less viable for cashout than they were before, 5 mins everyday of warmup in the practice lobby or even playing as a light for a bit would solve most peoples problems.

I've had you on my team before and you spent more time in chat sharing your 'annoyances' and spewing cheating accusations 2 seconds into the round than actually helping the team. Believe me that was way more annoying than anything the other teams were doing

[rough herald]

prfffffft
He just have good aim my brother
he just have a clean flick, i can see because its not instent
i can also see that his aim smoothly continue to track the same direction when the enemy straft to the other side and didn't perfectly lock on the enemy

He's not cheating dude, just good gaming chair

[glacial knot]

I reported him in the report channel, embark devs will verify his stats, stats dont lie 😉, server side stats you can see if he is always aiming on the same body part or not , no one need to justify nothing because embark will do the job. If this streamer doenst get banned i also will start cheating and play like that

[half knoll]

its impossible to carry while solo queueing in world tour i would get 10 kills the most amount of objective points in my team and my teammates wqould have 3-0 kills and we would lose the game. i dont know what needs to change. maybe ttk maybe better matchmaking. idk but something needs to change

[echo urchin]

The Emerald point system is really stupid.

We made it all the way to the final, had a healthy back and forth competition with the opponent, but then lost because bad luck with where rubble fell allowed a last second steal. What do we get for our time and effort? Fuck all; absolutely nothing towards ranking up.

That isn’t a skill based point system and it sure as shit isn’t a grinding point system.

[outer jetty]

• Throwing knifes - Light

Needs a nerf of limited ammo (clip size) of 7 and also having a reload. Or nerfing the speed or damage. Because it's one of the most disgusting weapons to be against. As playing flex it's disgusting and feels unfair to play against if he hits all throws perfectly. Rather a sniper headshot. I have time to react and notice and it's slow. But still powerful.

• SA1216 - Heavy

The only shotgun that is so weak, rather play with m60 or lewis gun. It needs buffs such as like:

- Buffing 4-nextshot reload speed by 0.6 seconds faster.
- Buffing instead of having 4 shots to fire-ready, Instead 5. (That means increasing clip-total)
- Buffing increasing fall-off damage.```
I can give reasons, on my DM's.

• Dual Blades - Medium

Needs a buff of damage reduction, Extremely easy to eliminate with gadgets/specialisations.

• Riot shield - Medium

Needs damage reduction by +15% at least while shielded.
Needs damage reduction FROM Bullets of 30% at least while shielded and taking damage from the front. (by 50 degrees angle from unfair shots)

• The replacement -> Dual Blades

• 93R - Light

needs a accuracy buff.

• CL-40 - Medium

Needs a bigger damage radius Or More Destructive damage.

• MGL32 - Heavy

Needs more Destructive Damage.

ALSO!
Heavy needs a Impact Grenade launcher, But less Destructive but instead damage focus. like CL-40, But for heavy.

• Nerds say: "Uhm! 🤓 Go play medium if you want something like that uhm! lmao 🤓"

The idea of giving heavy a newer grenade launcher or reskin or copy of that weapon, or even making it as a gadget of grenade launcher impact for heavy, Would make heavy gameplay different. It would take slot from heavy. With 3 Impact shots and then cooldown will give heavy a full reload for heavy. This would make heavy life better against lights. This could be a different story.

[olive wraith]

Explain how he's missing all the time XD. Plus, you can see his reticule shaking as he aims. Git good kid, stop calling others cheaters when you bad at the game.

[quick coyote]

Embark may possibly be the absolute worst game designers I've ever seen. Its a fuckin spectacle. I don't know what to equate it to tbh. They have incredible gameplay developers. Its so smooth most of the time, and when its not thats just fisher price server problems. but like, the actual design of this game is a trainwreck. From the rank system, to the WT emerald system, to their matchmaking, to the social mechanics. They need an actual game designer to come in and fix these things.

[crisp bobcat]

bro WHAT are you on thats just good aim lmao

[echo panther]

emerald progression needs a rework its frustrating and already made me stop playing today because losing for 3 hours straight and not getting ONE POINT is downright sad

[teal oxide]

Kyoto is a trash map and I'm getting really really tired of playing every other fucking tournament on it.

[paper stream]

I agree. I can't wrap my head around the fact that they to bad decision after bad decision... It's like they are totally disconnected from the reality or they are unable to analyze the data they have...

[south viper]

Nerf throwing knives. They desperately need a stamina system

[raven linden]

Um, I have a little bit of feedback for one of the devs, I found a small bug on Powershift on Skyway Stadium, I somehow ended up in the ground, whilst battling someone with a spear, and could not move 😅

[tidal night]

I need Throwing Daggers to get their nerf so more people are humbled 👍🏻

[teal minnow]

Season 1 was absolute perfect. The vibe ,the fresh feeling the game had.
Season 2 was full with lore , EE's , community event and new contents.
Season 3 ,feels off but I really like the WT and sponsored tournaments ,the game feels a lot more like in season one with real gameshow and stuff. OST is not as great as it was season 1 and 2 but this is my opinion. Can't wait for season 4 and I hope you guys can turn it all over and get more players. Cheaters getting banned ,balance getting better (nerf throwing knives ,sledge + winch). Love the game ,love the team

[upper citrus]

Nerf the model 1887 spread and potentially damage to 105

[potent solar]

I think the problem is that they are too academic or data driven. They are trying to do the scientific thing rather than the fun thing. Remember when they released a scientific paper on the blog stating how ranked was accurate in s2 even though the end result was that it wasn't fun? You can make a perfectly engineered ferrari but no one will buy it if it only goes in reverse.

I think that is the core issue with the game, much of it comes from ego or fear in the design team. They won't buff certain weapons because people dont use it so there is not potential for $$ for skins there.

A gamer or fan on the other hand would see the excitement then disappointment for a weapon that is not being used (for being underpowered, ie first time famas or 93r) and realize if you make it fair now you have a new market of fans for skins for that portion of the game that were previously ignored.

Im not going to buff the 93r because no one liked it (uhh because it sucked) but on the flip side we will keep op weapons because people are using them (uhh because they are op) so obviously we need more knife, xp, model skins cause they must like those weapons irl