👂┇game-feedback

[quick coyote]

Spawn- I agree you either spawn ON the vault or ACROSS the map, it’s no in between. Removing team, white penalties, and these spawns combined or deadly combination. It’s almost programmed to make you loose.

[arctic heron]

okay thats a bug, i am sorry .... also could the devs ad an csgo like market, would love to see that
i just wantedto give a big thumbs up to the workers, i think that the weapons aren't perfectly balanced is a good thing. Choices ( of weapons) matter ... creating a good and fun loadout is a difficult task wich is just a part of the map for me

writting everything together cause i need to wait like 30 min

[dusty fox]

The flash grenade leaves me more blind than the enemy 😭😭😭😭

[next rock]

Nerf the model. Why does it have that much range?

[cosmic ether]

bruh the model shaves like 1% off your health at max range

[bitter aspen]

complaining about the model 1887 is peak SKILL ISSUE

[quick coyote]

The Model 1887 is a movement weapon, the reload time is long & dangerous if you’re caught by an enemy while reloading. Most people don’t think about that - what kind of movement options does medium have? Zipline & Jumpad, exactly so it works well with both of those, its distance is required.

[clever turtle]

Embark, you should talk with content creators to make videos explaining how the different gamemodes work, with stratagy etc. it would help newer players learn the game, and advertise creators for this game

[shy swan]

no its not using it feels broken and facing against it feels broken.

• nerf medium shotgun

• nerf throwing knives

• nerf light shotgun

• nerf rpg

• nerf heal rate of heal beam

• nerf defib hp

• nerf invis spam

• nerf charge and slam damage

• buff riot shield size

• buff smoke grenades thickness

• buff spear

• reduce visual recoil for v9s

• buff duel swords reflect cone

• buff burst pistol

• buff flash grenade (can make snipers go very blind when ads at flash from distance)

• add heavy 50 cal sniper

• add 1 extra explosive landmine

• reduce lewis gun recoil

• make ads sensitivity go to %200 (or overhaul sensitivity settings compleatly since its very bare bones n)

• character loadouts preset saves

• xp for having your mic on for a whole game

• bring back team wipe penalty for tornament cashout gamemode

• make both terminal attack and tournament have the same normal skill based rank system

• add seeing player cards in friends list

• add party leader being able to transfer party into private match when creating one.

• add voice and text chat between ur team and enemy teams during introduction and ending

• make disable voice chat hold or double tap to toggle (very easy to accidentaly press it)

• DISABLE AUTO VAULTING OPTION (accidentally vaulting is one of the most annoying things in the game similar to auto aim mele)

• remote control drone specialty? (flashes destroy the drones)

• semtex? (just a sticky grenade with longer fuse time n slightly higher damage)

• recon sense (acts like a tracking dart for everyone your looking at but works for shorter time)

• low hp clone specialty for light or medium?

• black balaclava cosmetic

• more team colors for easier distinction?

• minigun deployable specialization for heavy?

[last kite]

Yo Embark Dev, the Healing Beam Bug is still not fixed, and I fall victim to it in the majority of my games. As someone who actually likes supporting my team with the healing beam, FIX IT NOW! Also, give me the Contestant role this instant because I want the power to create a voice chat room. I've already participated in general chat a while ago commenting on the Twitch Rivals event, and I still haven't gotten the role.

[obtuse elbow]

TLDR; I have spent over 5 hours on ONE mission, and I'm not even close to finishing it.

The "Interrupt 15 players stealing your terminal/cashout" is soooo incredibly frustrating, I have tried hard for 5 hours and I'm only at 6/15. I have not felt this much anger in a loooong time, and it's killing me. Since it only counts kills for some reason, and only counts them WHILE they have their hand out it makes it way too hard, especially in skilled lobbies where players either make sure to A. wipe out the whole team before going for the steal or B. immediately stop stealing as soon as they get the smallest amout of damage. I am not kidding, I have spent hours on loadouts specifically for this mission. I have not managed to get a single success for the past 15 games, it's demoralizing and not fun. If it actually counts the times when you actually interrupt the steal like it says in the actual mission (e.g. stun, yoink the cashout away, knock the enemy away, hurt them and they let go etc etc) this would not be a problem at all.

[patent wind]

fix solo bank it. me and my friends love goofing off in it

[celest tree]

PSA, y'all need more playtesting, this is some MAJOR game breaking bugs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsK91iJRAwQ

[burnt pecan]

the ks should have no bloom when standing still imo. i lifted my mouse off the pad for this.

[final root]

devs are a bunch of sqaures

[hardy portal]

i was just playing rocket league and it made me realize, this update sucks

[unreal fossil]

No matter the game mode I pick (aside from TA, that I don't play at all), I frequently find myself in lobbies with lots of Lights/Light only teams these days, and I'm getting tired of it. I'll get skill issue replies but I don't care, it's very demanding to win fights against a swarm of them, their sonar/dash/VB spam fest, their higher damage output and faster HP recovery. Especially in WT, where the experimental set of rules is very favorable to a class that can move around the map quickly and is designed to stack up kills.

If Light class is to stay like this, then I think M/H guns need some buffs.

I think the FCAR in particular should be reworked. It's too close to the AKM, I think it would be better as a DMR-ish weapon (20 rounds, higher damage, lower ROF, bad hipfire, very stable for the first few rounds then gets jumpier the more you fire).

The FAMAS needs a minor buff to be great.

Both LMGs definitely need tweaking as they're probably the worse picks in the Heavy arsenal right now. At least the M60 is.

At the same time, things need to be done to the Heavy class so that it doesn't rely as much on gimmicky stuff like the RPG (which has been a staple since day 1), winch + sledge, and so on.

Aside from this class balance talk, WT is kind of a mess with these new rules, the lack of team wipe penalty isn't good at all in a cashout tournament.

[untold cypress]

Dude 100% lights have become like a virus. I don't even care that every Light weapon is busted because when they weren't, every light player still picked the meta. The biggest frustration I face is when playing a heavy it feels like you spend the entire match just trying to heal while simultaneously being the largest target. I regularly die to multiple lights from opposing teams...

It wouldn't be so bad if I felt like I had a way to fight back, but the state of the lmgs just leaves you feeling helpless sometimes.

[next rock]

It's not a movement weapon if you can still effectively challenge people mid range. The sh1900 is a movement weapon, you basically need to be inside people to kill them. The model does 128 damage, has 6 shots, you can reload one at a time and can easily do enough damage to keep people pressured at like mid range and absolutely delete them close range with no aim

[thick minnow]

Why did they do this all season 3?

[somber axle]

Born to use heavy forced to use light 😔

[lunar vault]

Yknow maybe next season you'll get matchmaking right
But rn im so f*king bored of getting 1 - 12 bots on my team, its not even fun when we win because i just have to sweat so hard to carry these creatures
Fix up matchmaking, make it more balanced, go off K/D, IDK but just do something so i actually get some fun matches where i can chill out and not have to try my ass off

[bitter aspen]

the sawed off is way more consistent then the 1887 and you shred most things standing in the way, the 1887 is the middle shotgun where accuracy is more important, like at this point asking for nerfs for the 1887 is like asking for a sledgehammer buff

[prime fern]

buff lmgs plz

[thick minnow]

I'm a Medium Main and forced to switch to Light as well. It's been beyond frustrating and feels like the Embark team has abandoned M and H.

All of the friends I brought into the game have left because of this new Light Only meta. As others have stated, it's not a "skill issue" it's the fact that M and H main weapons have been nerfed into the ground.

Restore both of Heavies ranged weapons, restore the FCAR, restore the CL40. All of the weapons used to handle lights are gone.

Each week we hear a different excuse on why there hasn't been any balance changes. I once had 5 Battlefield and COD friends leave their main games to only playing Finals. However, they now left Finals bc of this lights madness. Now I solo queue as a light because M and H aren't viable unless your team is highly skilled.

Yet new players can pick Light and run to the table. It's ridiculous.

[next rock]

Sawed off has insane pellet spread which is what matters on a shotgun. You have to be inside them to get the most damage. Model is practically a slug so you will consistently do more damage. There's a reason you see a model in like every team now. It's easy damage. Sawed off is actually kinda perfect for a shotgun, high risk high reward, at actual close range very strong. I understand model should have a bit more range because M doesn't have the same mobility. Should probably have less damage though because why does it only do 30 damage less than the sawed off but have 6 shots and all that range. @bitter aspen

[quick coyote]

Heavy definitely doesn't have the best shotgun in the game, an AK on steroids, RPG that wins the heavy every fight at practically any range, Charge that insta kills anyone in a 3 meter radius, or a bunch of defensive items (on the defensive class) and a hook that basically guarantees a kill against any class with addition to the highest health pool. 🤷

Heavy surely has nothing going for them am i right

[solid girder]

Plz fix matchmaking
dont put a team of plats against ruby 😔

[quick coyote]

What a great way to put it! 💯

[bitter aspen]

its also slower and less forgiving to miss as well, over all its not broken, its the result of how the game is balanced now

[tepid osprey]

NERF THE RANGE ON HOOK YOU IMBECILES

[crimson hornet]

add sniper removal

[waxen bear]

king?

[uneven dagger]

sell customizable weapon vfx without making them obnoxious

[coral forum]

active cheater https://clips.twitch.tv/RelatedTriangularOrangeSwiftRage-0QOgyJTDXQg3CSV6

[lyric frost]

I think the game is pretty fun and its one of the only game I've been playing lately.
I personally think there should be a way to be able to gift friends bundles or battle pass with Multibucks!

[faint flame]

leave it at this. Fix your game, and create your own anticheat

[waxen bear]

demat could use some buff

[crimson hornet]

bow down to me

[atomic delta]

this could also be changed into 20% from inserting, 30% at the end for the team who held it the longest and then 50% for completing it.

[quick coyote]

Do NOT! Winch Claw is the only thing heavy has going for them, yall already nerfed way too much of heavy leave it alone please!

[cosmic ether]

NERF YOUR ATROCIOUS SPELLING

[glacial knot]

When you get hoocked you can use your weapon and me as light i can dash backward ahd throw knifes, for me winch isnt a big deal 😋✌️

[quick coyote]

Winch is a big deal in the hands of a heavy who has more than 2 active braincells. It has no place in this game.

People bitched about stun gun but when they add a stronger one on heavy they defend it.

[mild ruin]

i think im only one who like balance in that game?
because i dont feel to OP winch, or something else...
yes its can be unpleasant and offensive when you got winched or being killed by bug (light) but its not so OP in my opinion...

[opaque holly]

Why is there no m1 garand skin for the lh1?! This game kills it with animations so I'm sure they could make one of the most satisfying garands ever!

[brisk star]

While we're in Japan it'd be really cool if we got a Sukeban outfit. long skirt dark sailor uniform with a girl's pompadour. could come with a nail bat skin too!

[misty schooner]

Barricade has issues being set down on uneven ground, even if it can be set down on goo. On sys horizon there’s little black squares sticking out maybe a foot or so and the barricade has issues with it.

[patent wind]

enable solo bank it in customs

[stray valley]

buff revolver drop off dmg

[iron acorn]

OLD DASH WAS PEAK. WHY????

[tribal spoke]

Dash is still great.

[coarse oar]

buff revolver fire rate

[hollow rune]

PLEASE make the next World Tour without Kyoto for once. I know it's new this season but its making me and my friends hate it so much

[tepid osprey]

When I get hooked from the ground while I’m on the top of a building….i think that’s a little excessive. Hammer/hook combo is way to overpowered

[nova solar]

Sledgehammer

[misty jasper]

try in TA, if you end up in a 1 v 1 or 2 v 1 or 3 v 1 or something which happens quite a bit, just wait until they start stealing for 3 seconds, then start stealing. Usually ppl will hold trying to steal if they are close to stealing. Same applies to cashout now that I think about it

[sacred siren]

if you cant fix the loading screen bug after like 4 weeks, just revert the game. this is embarassing

[vale acorn]

pair two teams of five together for a ten man team and pair it up against another ten stack for a three point king of the hill control mode

[fallen violet]

Love the new update

[mellow bridge]

?

[glad delta]

nerf the fucking mini smg jesus christ

[coarse oar]

mayor of corny town

[smoky kiln]

for the "Arena Security" riot sheild skin there is Z fighting (or x?? idk) around the glass part which looks glitchy and weird. (only visible to the enemy)

[thin venture]

Most of yall js sad making claims based on your opinion, n sum of y’all got valid points, but it’s hard to see the people that make those valid points when it’s just being spammed by people that don’t know how to counter

[nova solar]

What we lost🔨😞

[dreamy gull]

Nerf the nerf complainers

[rustic tusk]

Hardcore Finals: Turn on Megadamage for entire game. 5v5 elimination

[livid tiger]

my video setting have been reset to all epic like 5 times in the past few days

[polar prairie]

Same

[daring fossil]

fix the double-barrel, the amount of times I do 12 damage at point blank basically dead center is frankly appauling

[sonic spoke]

Hook range is intense

[sand lark]

Please make a feature to ban certain maps from ques. So if you don't like kyoto for example, you can ban it and it won't put you in a match on that map

[daring fossil]

You guys need to hire a couple students to sift through bug reports because the amount of game breaking bugs plaguing the game that have been reported for months without so much as being acknowledged is frankly disgusting and disrespectful to your player base. I've been here since alpha, I've spent over $200CAD and have like 1400 hours in the game, I have so much love for this game, and so much patience, but it's dwindling, and I've been saying this since Season 1, I can only wait for so long. I reported that the fire grenade skins are broken in April, it hasn't been fixed, it's seriously probably a 5 minute job, it looks bad guys.

I'm also so fucking tired of sledge hammer douches being able to one-shot me from 15 feet away, it's bad enough you gave them the easy mode winch claw which IMO is the worst idea you guys had had since Recon Sense.

Fix your goddamn net-code and get better servers. I could literally write at least 3 pages of issues with this game that have persisted since launch (or even beta) JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, and yeah i get it, some bugs are hard to fix, and some are hard to reproduce but these bugs literally cost people games and when the game fucking cheats you as often as this one does, most people cut their losses.

I'm sure no one in the office is thinking "I wonder why we can't retain players" I'm sure you're all very aware of why the game isn't succeeding. Maybe go back to daddy Nexon (huge mistake to pick them btw from a team that was constantly fucked over by EA, did no one learn any lessons at Dice?) and ask them for some money to hire some people to pick up the slack, since it feels like this game is updated by a skeleton crew while the rest of the team works on Arc Raiders which nobody wanted as an extraction shooter.

Also stop putting me back in quick play matches I just left, I fucking left for a reason. I just got 2 losses for leaving the same match with a heavy doing nothing but destroying buildings and ignoring the objective

[elfin dock]

EMBARK KINDLY RETURN TEAM WIPE PENALTY

[dry raft]

The crane in stadium got a bug zipline since 2 month 🤡

[short crater]

If you don‘t nerf this sniper i will quit this game

[daring fossil]

show me career level of team mates at the start of the match, or all players, on the scoreboard for that matter.

@crystal umbra there's already a gold sword skin you can buy.

[crystal umbra]

Aye yo?...

Emerald, Diamond, & Ruby MELEE WEAPONS???

When?🤌🏾

Sledge is a staple at this point. Those big backed heavies need a ruby & gold sledge.

The riot shield is trash. The scummy ratty Mediums need to have a diamond and gold riot shield

The mighty light class deserves 3:
-Emerald & gold Sword ( @rugged temple or diamond sword)
-Diamond Throwing Knives
-Ruby & Gold Dagger

In all seriousness, generally make shiny melee weapons please? 🤞🏾

[rugged temple]

cmon, diamond sword...

[rough herald]

https://tenor.com/view/diamond-diamond-sword-minecraft-sword-enchat-gif-25198423

[lament depot]

deal damage with handguns and marksman rifles quests are stupid and shouldnt be in the game

[violet elbow]

love how everyone just complains about literally any kinda dailies and weeklies

"deal damage with x"
"do x with Vaults and cashouts"

is it really that hard to just play the game? none of the challenges requires any bigger effort other than maybe changing up 1-2 loadout slots for a few matches

[broken geyser]

Keep the stealing time to what it was already, the last second clutches are almost non existent now

[glacial garnet]

leaver penalties would be much appreciated its so frustrating to lose a game that was winable all because we didnt get the intial cashout and some crybaby rage quit

[crystal umbra]

A random list of weapons & gadgets for y'all to chew on a bit:

Heavies:
-Brass knuckles -(speed boost passive)
-Dual Desert Eagles
-Mini gun specialization
-Bear Trap -(Junkrat trap from overwatch)
-"Javelin throw"

Mediums:
-Amp Matrix -(Baptist window from overwatch)
-Gravity bomb -(black hole)
-"Advanced tracking" -(shows enemies footsteps and climbs)

Lights:
-Ice bomb -(D.O.T. damage & causes players to slide during interactions like cash outs)
-Healing bomb -(aoe heals)
-Stim -(temporary heal & speed boost)
-Repulser mine -(opposite of gravity bomb, high knockback/low damage)

I know I have more but I forgot to write them down.

[prisma walrus]

We are now at the midpoint of the season, and we still do not expect to see more players.
What about weapons, gadgets, advertising and collaborations with other games?
I would like to see more use of the VR world concept.

[daring fossil]

nerf mp5 range, in what world would a SMG out range while out-recoiling an AR

[short crater]

Fix Machmaking and nerf Sniper

[rough herald]

Pls fix the unreal crash like come on, can't play my fav game man

@tepid stone but annoying everywhere, nerf the shit to the ground

[idle oracle]

To be honest, I have my issues with those challenges. As you say, just playing the game will eventually get you the challenge done. Maybe swap it over to the right gamemode is necessary, but you can get it done.
However, this also means that the challenge either isn’t a challenge at all, or becomes an utter time slug fest where you play for a long time in a way that you simply do not enjoy. As a melee, being told to do 5000 damage with headshots is just several hours of misery till the challenge is done.
And not all challenges are well made. Take this week’s ‘stop cashout steals’. Not only does this rely on your enemies usually making a mistake by making the steal attempt in the first place without clearing the area, it also requires them to keep continuing with said mistake despite the proof it was a mistake rapidly shooting them in the head.
This particular challenge is also inconsistent: seemingly only killing the stealing player or stunning them with the stun gun work. Stunning with winch claw doesn’t, nor any other method that interrupts steals count. (Such as moving the cashout away from the stealing player).

So yes, I would argue that the challenges are flawed. They take too long to complete, forcing (casual) players for too long into a playstyle that just doesn’t sync with them. Or the challenges are severely flawed that it becomes guess and luck work to complete them.

It would be better if VR could be used to replace challenges so a player can opt out of the ones they don’t enjoy chasing by grinding a bit.

[tepid stone]

Sniper is only mega good in TA

[potent solar]

level of competition is lower than previous season, keep that in mind when everyone complains.. have ignored it so far, but if you want ranked next season you cant cater to people who are honestly not skilled yet. played with a few of the complainers that want nerf this and that but most are really bad and need to play against people at their skill level

[tacit dock]

The lack of updates for 3 weeks now has made this game so fucking bad it’s unreal. Light class is incredibly unbalanced and the longer they ignore it the more toxic the game gets and more the gameplay falls off. If they don’t nerf light next update I’ll bet they lose 1/4 of the player count.

[west anchor]

The game is finally dead. Ggs everyone. Kuddos to those still playing

[strong geyser]

I still have fun with the game, but I only play a few games of power shift every day, so I cant say anything about how other game modes feel, but It is still one of my favorite shooters right now. ^^
I think it would be cool if you could equip all non-Battle pass skins in the practice range to see how they look in game.

[bright wraith]

Will MatchMaking be fixed next update ? new players teammates are not ok to play with or against them. NOT FUN. they have to learn and level up to 20 before play with level 60 players, WT and TA are only for over level 20. just fix the matchmaking. or Add small arena tests & challenges and gates before people can reach the big arena. YOU KNOW! REACH THE FINALS!

[rough herald]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
CAN'T FIX IT

[high lynx]

Repulser mine sounds super interesting but with little utility unless it’s multiple shot with diminishing health (like APS). Making it like glitch trap (infinite effect time unless destroyed) would be too OP, especially in power shift

[winter vapor]

please fix the balance, i shouldnt have to 5x everyone elses damage and 2x obj score on the team to get a win. Im only at 4x damage an 1k obj and have lost 3 consecutive games now.

The game isnt enjoyable, i dont know what you guys smoke when youre adjusting these things.

Also, 90% of the community have been stating for over a month the Throwing knives are the most pathetic, brainless, advantageous, skilless weapon theyve ever seen in an fps game and you have still done nothing.

If i can get a 5 KDR and over 13k damage my fourth time using it, ever, its a problem.

Stop being so dunce and fix your mistakes, accept it, and fix it.

[hearty moon]

remove defib the game is 10x better amazing updates tho

[tacit dock]

Worst opinion in this chat, hope this helps

[subtle saddle]

idk i also hate defib. low vibrational

[rugged temple]

The only thing that needs to be removed from defib is the spawn iframes

[crisp oxide]

THIS NEW OP LIGHT META THINGS SUCKS GUSYS

[vestal basin]

Trash bugged game

[quick coyote]

Embark can we please ban players that leave terminal attack before it even starts

[spiral timber]

bring back revolver 2 shots light build

[barren mesa]

my game crashed 10 times yesterday

[upbeat urchin]

Please just balance every weapon some are useless, some are OP and others are boring

[tough sapphire]

Could we have a special variant for each map (desert for las vegas, construction area seoul etc ...) like monaco in a typhon, skyway stadium (i have no idea for a special variant with this map) syshorizon map being hacked and thus changing certain buildings walls disapearing, kyoto (maybe after a battle with swords and arrows lying around).

[crisp oxide]

GREAT GAME JUST NERF THE LIGHTS BACK DOWN A BIT PLZ
THE MELEE HEAVY I REALLY HATE
FIX LEWIS GUN
U CAN FIX THE FCAR BUT JUST A LIL
AND ALSO I LOVE U GUYS ❤️

[ripe seal]

I would love more riot shield skins or to be able to make the sticker and charm equipped show on the front instead of the inside

[quick coyote]

Lights are now in a good spot no need to nerf them

[rough herald]

buff cl40 damage total/damage per mag, preferability up the damage per shot a bit and give it 1 more bullet

@dull bloom light ability to regen health the fastest is thx to all the they drank just to come up second place vs scotty

[olive shell]

Season 4 bring back ranked cash out + keep world tour as a casual mode with limited time crazy rules like melee only and modifiers to make it fun. Profit.

[dull bloom]

Absolutely don't give lights ability to heal ever

Other than that, some good ideas there

[weary sky]

Lol u serious?

[neat yoke]

i think it's fine not to, since lights only need 7 seconds before healing kicks in, i do want dash cooldown reverted however

[sullen zephyr]

Bro the tiny knife Just Hits random Backs and 1 Hits randomly the knifes do Just 5 Hits on a heavy and ITS dead
The middle are fully nerfed Last patch and ITS incredable how U can say Something Like that

[drowsy vector]

Devs please think about your die hard grinders when Emerald releases this week. I have over 4500 win points already (yes I know, need to touch grass), and would suck if it doesn’t give any benefit to those who’ve put in the hours

[plush fjord]

Sorry bro but u honestly sound like a light main. lewis and m60 are a mess. its impossible to go head to head combat with lights with those too. what if ur not a meelee player? theres barely any options for heavies. leaves us heavy mains helpless. only normal heavy gun is sa12. mayb ks23 is slightly ok. Lights are dominating every match in numbers. 2+ lights in every quick cash team. r u new to this game? many ppl rn are complaining abt the same thing. and then u light mains will say skill issue cuz m11s, xp54s and other stuff (except sword sniper and dagger) requires barely any skill

[thick minnow]

He's definitely a light main. I'm a Medium Main forced to play Light because of this new awful Meta.

All of this to say, heavies ranged weapons have been nerfed into the ground. Now despite being slow, they are melee only players. I'm not a heavy main but even I know heavies need their ranged weapons restored. The person you quoted is 100% light main if they think heavies are in a good spot rn lol

[next rock]

They have 350 health + shields + RPG and Lewis gun still drops people if you hit your shots. Heavies are in a good spot

[blissful harness]

Its beyond me how people can say that lights are BAD. The fact that you can oneshot someone with a backstab in a game like finals is just wild

[rough herald]

lmao nah, you think dagger is op but you forgetting how much that weapon sacrifice for this ONE up side

• first of all its a melee so it have no range (already make the weapon inconsistent/unreliable)
• the one shot need to land on a part that is hard to reach without ability
• its hard af to land the one shot in the fist place
• all the above make the weapon a really inconsistent and just a bad pick

[dreamy belfry]

Lights are powerful but most not all light user's are annoying bro there bad 70 percent of the time if i have a light in my squad will lose because they keep dying going alone searching for kills too arrogant light users

[stable path]

we should have the ability to have multiple stickers at once and also to be able to put them wherever we want or change the size on a gadget or weapon

[crisp oxide]

disagree theyre too OP right now

[blissful harness]

I think the problem is not the class itself but the kind of people playing it. It cleary is only played by skibidi toilter rizzlers that have undiagnosed adhd

[ruby saddle]

when will the finals introduce an update where you can withdraw all the money you earned?

[mighty cedar]

Oh how wrong you are

[vapid jackal]

When ospuse is as big as coca cola

[rough herald]

wish the meta is HML not HHM or HMM

@limpid pawn prfffft

[sonic raft]

I really hate how the rewards for mediums is locked after emerald 1, but the reward for lights is after emerald 3. Like, mediums has to work harder to get a skin? Why can't we choose which of the skins we want as we achieve each rank?

[high wing]

can we get a dev to comment on the hitreg for revolver is fucking shit

[cinder elm]

Game needs more gamemodes.
TDM 6v6 (for light mains lol)
Capture the Flag
Gun Game maybe?
Cashball (Throwing ball of cash in enemy's hoop gives cash)

Keep Terminal Attack as Limited Time mode, when idea bucket for limited time events is dry

Also what happened with occasional events like Steal the Spolight and Smoking Guns? Those were kinda fun.

[livid spruce]

Day 15 of me asking Embark to add a battlepass system similar to halo or deep rock galactic. I hate FOMO. It's cringe.

[limpid pawn]

Giving medium the claw is actually not a bad idea. Finally riot shield/dual blades would be somewhat viable

[cedar burrow]

Could we please have the Salmon 🎟️ color team be swapped to a green 🟩 or a purple 🟪 color team?

It is too tricky to to decipher between red and salmon in a quick moment. I could swap to colorblind but then I am at a disadvantage trying to communicate colors to my allies.

[marble prawn]

maybe instead of nerfing everything and nerfing light they could buff some of heavy or mediums stuff or let them move faster idk wouldnt want light to be nerfed

[thick minnow]

Not according to Heavy Mains, which I am not. Now again, if you think Heavies are in a good spot you are without a doubt a Light Main.

[thorn nebula]

Can we have emerald already? I wanna grind to emerald 1 but if they're gonna release it towards the end of the season, winning 10 tournaments per rank will be hell to try to manage

[cinder elm]

For this reason i just use not having team colors at all, just red for enemies

[next rock]

I'm a heavy main. It's not a hard class to play

[high lynx]

Make it so if you choose double barrel shotgun for light, you can’t choose cloak device but can use invis bomb. Taser-cloak-double barrel is peak free-kill cheese with zero skill required and those that use it knows it

[plush fjord]

Why arent we getting a limited time event. The seasons almost over. I want that chaos gamemode ppl have been talkin abt where they give random weapons specializations and gadgetd (with some exceptions; no heavies with throwing knives and demats) from any class

[livid spruce]

You're completely disadvantaging yourself and your teammates out of precious strategies tbh.

[sharp briar]

What happened to events like steal the spotlight and smoking guns. Pre-made loadouts was so fun

[nova robin]

nerf turret :D

[dusky apex]

fix game
very unbalanced

[silent fog]

Nerf the winch claw, its so unbalanced. TKs too (please let me turn off the crowd noise, please)

[thick minnow]

It's okay that you are a light main. I'm a Medium Main and no one said Heavy was hard to play lollllllll

[rough herald]

TURRET SO OP!!!!

[royal notch]

Def should do a balancing patch

[high wing]

the hitreg/netcode in this game is so fking bad, i understand that this game is really early alpha but please focus on improving it instead of adding anime-skins

@brave copper i blame the developers and i know why i blame the developers, what is your point even?

[brave copper]

If you think the same people who design skins also work on netcode, you have no idea how these teams or careers work. You're not wrong about the servers feeling like trash this season. But don't act like you know why or who to blame.

[slim sun]

map creator?

[cinder elm]

I mean, I play casually (mostly power shift), not competitively, so I don't mind slight disadvantage, but I do agree that they need to change the salmon color for something else. I don't see green being enemy color tho, knowing color theory and all that.

[prime fern]

Allow other people in party to send invites

[opal plover]

I went without playing for about a week, played yesterday and the servers were feeling the worst I've ever seen. Bullets hitting inv colliders, rubber banding, wrecks glitching, movement feeling awful, shots I should hit not hitting (both me and target standing still, sniper aimed spot on on my end, shot not hitting), shots I should not hit hitting, enemies shooting me when on my end I was already under cover...

Not even in the CBs it felt this bad

[sharp briar]

Don’t nerf guardian turret, nerf light ttk and remove the stun gun because it makes any melee build redundant. The turret nerf needs to be reverted

[silent fog]

Nerf the tks, nerf the winch. It's insane these things have been in the game for as long as they have the way they are right now. (Also please let me turn off the crowd)

[rough herald]

also rpg and charge still do 140 and 130 damage

[queen shale]

how come theres no ping or signal for retreate?

[potent walrus]

I feel like the winch is reasonable other than the fact that it can winch enemies through shields and riot shields

[vestal basin]

Trash bugged game, never fixes

[harsh torrent]

Played normal cashout, gets 10k, enemy also get 10k, showing our team on 1st place, hold cashbox until timer runs out, gets second place?

What is this bullshittery?

[velvet olive]

Team Fortress 2 Collab or Rust collab! Also Team Fortess 2 Shortstop (pepper gun) for light!

[abstract coyote]

I understand but if you play long enough you should just catch on. The ppl who put the cash drop in last of the 10k wins the game.

[dull mirage]

didn't ekazo's video show its acc more complicated than that i barely remember, like i think whoever got the most recent kill or team wipe also matters, its such a weird system

[cinder elm]

Since they are on Steam and Nexon have done stuff with Counter-Strike, I could see it happen

Scout outfit for Light and force of nature skin for sawoff shotgun

Medic skin for Medium and Medigun skin for healing beam

Heavy skin for well... Heavy lol and minigun skin for m60

[harsh sable]

please add a tdm gamemode :D

[pseudo leaf]

REMOVE HORIZION FROM THE MAP POOL THAT MAP IS DOGS*IT FOR TA. Make a resonable match making like i am hight plat almost diamond right now just because i can't gain any rs for winning like 400 for every win to 800 to a lose almost every game. I saw a lot of really bad players in plat which is weird they are almost top 500

[copper lark]

agreed, tdm would be good, we could get rid of bank it and replace it with tdm

[cedar burrow]

Could we please have the Salmon 🎟️ color team be swapped to a green 🟩 or a purple 🟪 color team?

It is too tricky to to decipher between red and salmon in a quick moment. I could swap to colorblind but then I am at a disadvantage trying to communicate colors to my allies.

[harsh torrent]

Then should they not show our team on 1st place?

[next rock]

Damn bro you caught me I was actually lying about my main because that's a normal thing to do

[thick minnow]

It happens to the best of us. It's okay!

[patent wind]

whats wrong with bank it? basically already tdm. ig if you dont like 3rd parties tho

[quartz shell]

that's a poor way of saying that it doesn't need to be nerfed lol, Ik it doesn't needs to be nerfed but who places a turret in a middle space and not in a corner or something like that

[rough herald]

yeah i was joking lol, the placement really don't matter, my point was that it did so lil damage dosn't need a nerf

@topaz ledge kindda agree? also the height of each class camara kind exaggerate it

[topaz ledge]

hot take(?): the differences in base movement speed between classes are not enough to matter. the movement abilities and gadgets are what differentiates the mobility of each class. in actual combat however, the higher movement speed of one class over another does not really give any substantial advantage

this really was to address the fact that after getting winched it is not possible to run out of range of any heavy melee weapon before getting killed. lights have some chance with their grapples or dashes, but mediums have an even smaller chance of survival even with a jump or zip. lights have slightly faster counter strafing during gunfights but the light playstyle doesn't utilize it as much as medium. lights are 99% more mobile due to their dash and grapple, as opposed to their run speed

[west trellis]

Regardless of balancing or ranked issues or some game breaking bugs, bringing back the season 1 soundtrack to the lobby would restore so much of my finals hype. The vibe is just lost without it. Bring back Sailor & I!

[patent wind]

the lock on needs a nerf in some way whether it be lock on time, or the turrets ability to aim, or its turn speed. it just feels too consistent on moving targets

[deep summit]

KS-23 is bugged, randomly it won’t let you shoot or reload.

[sonic spoke]

I still go back and listen to it!

[marble prawn]

this person in powershift kept getting perfect headshots with throwing knives all game how is that possible

[tepid summit]

pls no fomo 🙂

[gritty umbra]

according to every lobotomie on this server, it's just a skill issue bro

[hard badger]

nerf throwing knives, its to ez to win with it

[velvet olive]

Make a Nerf gun esc skin for anything!! (MGL32 pls)

[quick coyote]

Throwing Knives needs a nerf, too many people use it, god forbid heavy mains use a Winch Claw, it’s like the only counter to how many light players are flying across the map. 300 plus damage on a heavy - not okay.

[clever hawk]

Winch Claw feels amazing to use but can feel terrible to play against because it can so easily become an inevitable and inescapable death, especially for L/M classes.

WC should not be a free effective oneshot, like old Roadhog. It should be a displacement tool - for players and objects - that aids CQB but doesn’t grant it excessive power.

The best way to nerf its effectiveness against players without harming its object utility would be to prevent it from pulling players any closer than, say, 8-10m. This would give winched players the space and opportunity to more effectively fight back or flee without instantly suffering extreme damage.

It would remove the often inescapable melee/flamer death, reduce the effectiveness of the easy and extreme SA12 bursting, and make it much harder to land the final blow with the KS23. All of which are the most oppressive and frustrating elements for opposing players.

The commonly suggested nerf of reducing its maximum range would not address these oppressive aspects and would hurt its utility when it comes to objects such as cashouts, revive totems, etc.

The other common suggestion of a cast animation would also not address the oneshots and would punish the user excessively given it already takes ~1s to use, resulting in majorly negative value upon a miss. It would also change the fairly even Dash matchup into a hard counter.

This change would also allow Mesh Shield to be of some use to the winched player given some distance would be maintained between the two players, as opposed to the current iteration which is simply a hard counter.

[dusk mica]

Input based matchmaking

[restive pelican]

Hopefully the team only takes feedback from 2+ weeks after ANY update.

At first, most people hate change. Especially when playing a game for 6 months and it changes a bit.

But after weeks, most people will agree these changes have been excellent

[abstract coyote]

What needs to be done with the winch claw to fix its issue but remain as affected with cash drops and totems. Is when a player gets grabbed bye the winch you should just be able to counter it by a melee. Doing so would make the game more competitive as you have to think in matters of seconds and if not doing so will result in a death.

[deep summit]

Winch claw should get a guaranteed shot, its a high risk high reward specialization, usually they can shoot before you can when they get winched.
The current winch claw is high risk low reward

Self rpg near enemies never damages them, only you, fix that nonsense

[last swift]

Asking again please fix Kyoto stairs🙏
@patent wind
Ok buddy, still needs to be fixed that’s why it’s in the feedback channel.

[patent wind]

imma be real thats the least of our problems

[oak hornet]

The team colors are way too similar, specially pink and red… and sometimes purple. And sometimes red and orange… Can we get a green please? 💚

[atomic drum]

cancel minus points when lost the game due to enemy is cheater,asia server rank top2500 fk cheater everywhere😫

[quick coyote]

I want more announcer quotes, you start hearing them repeat a lot

[patent night]

search and destroy is just the worst thing this game ever got

[shy sphinx]

Please give another hammer skin. Thank you.

[knotty stag]

Why not bring back "The dead go boom" but it would cause environmental damage instead of normal damage to players.
I love the chaos that can break out and using the destruction as advantage etc. on cashouts while entire buildings collapse.

[marble prawn]

stop nerfing everything maybe just increase movement of heavy or buff one of their things . and throwing knives you have to land the hits and they dont do anymore damage than others they can be countered .

[clever hawk]

All this would do is make Winch Claw utterly useless against skilled players whilst leaving it as majorly oppressive to unskilled and even average players, the vast majority.

[crystal umbra]

I didn't put restrictions on it or rules to them. I left them as is so people can play with the idea (chew on it a bit)

[abstract coyote]

That’s the whole point. This game was made for skilled players. Hints the skill issue quote and gameplay if you’re a casual player yah your gonna get smoked by anyone. It Wouldn’t make it useless every thing needs a counter if used in a timely manner. If not then makes the game unfair to other builds. This is coming from a player that has over 700+ hours in the game.

[hard badger]

yeah right thats why I see so many tkn players have high kills and seeing them wipe whole team. Tbh I can do that to, throwing knives are not difficult at all. All who say tkn are difficult have skill issue. And btw they already buffed it twice so now its busted at most. If i play with tkn I easily get 20 kills with it just because its so ez and does to much damage, says enough imo. Btw most of the people just hate nerfs because they cant kill without their powerfull weapon or gadget lmao

[queen shale]

stop giving me a penalty for leaving world tour when im already down players

[fresh shell]

It's been about half a season and the spammy-ass near-instakill throwknives are still not nerfed.

[echo panther]

butterfly knive for dagger please embark do it already

[marble prawn]

you can counter them with turrets sniper ect instead of nerfing they should increase movement speed for medium or heavy and maybe buff something

[oak smelt]

if some one leaves after the first round in ranked TA so the round doesnt end dont penalize the other teammates for not wanting to play a 4v5

[short crater]

NERF LIGHT AND SNIPER AND BOW AN WINCH CLAW

[bitter aspen]

nerf the accessibility for games

[quick coyote]

All these classes are well balanced i hate to say, they are balanced around their HP pools > Damage output > Utility per health pool
Like i will be honest, if you are complaining, its just a skill issue, and you need to try what works for you, everyone has a different approach.
From a game design perspective, this balancing is pretty tight.

[vast elbow]

Please fix enemy colors so we don't get orange on sandstorm final rounds... it's impossible to see.

[clever hawk]

The game was made for everyone and amateur and below players make up the vast majority of the player base. Failing to address something that hurts them is suicidal for the playerbase.

If it has a simple and reliable counter it will be easily and reliably countered by skilled players, thus nullifying its existence at that level. Whilst still leaving it broken for the majority of the player base.

[dire notch]

CANCEL MATCHES if teams in ranked modes are not full within the first minute/and a half...because the state it's in now IS NOT FUNNY. i went into my first match in world tour, my teammate disconnected right after the loadout screen. we lost. the next match after that, my teammate was kicked for afk within a minute after the match started. the next match i was placed by matchmaking in a team of two from the start. that was three matches in a row, the first three games of the day. did i continue to try my luck? no. that's not how ranked mode is supposed to work, you don't even give incomplete teams the right to give up, i have to endure almost ten minutes of being in a losing position from the start instead of competing on a level playing field...

[abstract coyote]

It would not hurt the ability due to its distance of retrieval you’ll be pulled in with matters of 2.5 seconds at it’s longest distance and if the enemy is in combat makes good for great surprise but if your brain can work that fast to counter you’d still be within feet’s of the holder of the wench claw. So to counter it would not hurt it. It would level the playing fields to the players that have proper IQ and that being said there’s not many of them on the game and the players who do are at the top of the leaderboards. Say what you want tired of arguing with someone that doesn’t understand a decent counter that wouldn’t put an ability at risk. But I’m sure you’re defending bc your use to using it on causal player and you know you’d get destroyed with someone that doesn’t have a skill issue.

[short crater]

NERF DAGGER AND RIOT SHIELD AND REVOLER AND LIGHT

[clever hawk]

Given only one of us can write English properly and make use of paragraphs I’d hesitate to insult the IQ of others if I were you.

Winch Claw already has an unintentional counter via jumping as it connects, which breaks the chain. The timing is far more precise than your stupid suggestion yet highly skilled players can still reliably perform it even mid-combat.

My suggestion would actually leave it viable at the highest skill level, unlike yours, and so your accusation makes zero sense.

You also clearly do not care about balance for the vast majority of players, which is why your suggestion is somehow worse than your grammar.

[minor notch]

1. just look at the person using dagger. if they cant backstab, they probably cant kill
2. throw a pyro at them. it sticks to them and blinds them
3. revolver is perfectly fine. if they are skilled enough to hit their shots they get rewarded with good damage
4. heavy with flamethrower and winch melts lights

[quick coyote]

The “Dead Go Boom” event was so fun, I wish people didn’t complain. I miss the chaos, nothing will EVER top season one.

[steel forge]

Nah there are just combinations which are literally unplayable to play against:

For example 3 M's are just TOO annoying and is just stupidly op, especially with them all using heal or 3 turrets (WHICH IS ANOTHER EXTREME PROBLEM OF THIS GAME), nah but 3 Middles with good aim as well can just dominate on their own and that's just not the goal of something being competetive lol

Another one being sword and dash on the Light Class, Literally one-hitting lights and even middles out of nowhere, bcs they can just dash-rightclick-punch and you're dead lmao

Again on lights Dash and Throwing Knives is as well just WAY too strong, literally not competetive as well lol, you don't even have to be good to dominate players literally on your own

And these are just a few examples of stuff that needs to be addressed

Mines are literally just there to annoy ppl lol, they shouldn't even be there in the first place, with the only being good is the glitch trap, and ppl can SPAM mines just WAY too much, bcs there is just the possibility of everyone taking the same stuff with them instead of blocking gadgets and abilities if someone else has already picked them, would be a muchhhhhhh better system

Other than that i have absolutely to agree that the Finals has great Balance in just about anything but hell these things have always been stupidly strong and they're not doing smth smh

[silent fog]

Please tell me there's a winch nerf tomorrow, if there isn't I might lose hope in your balancing team

[abstract coyote]

Your defense is grammar lol okay Mrs. Karen you continue to teach the first grade. I’ll continue to give feedback and my opinion about a game And by the way most of everyone is typing there opinions without going the full length of paragraphs, grammar etc. you the and just a few are the only ones Karen. No one cares about your grammar we all care about a fair game and ways to make it fun for us all. Lol #🥊┇fair-play

[buoyant helm]

THIS STUPID GAME HAS ALREADY CRASHED 5 TIMES TODAY

[cobalt shoal]

i just got a 2 hour suspension that sticks even after i reconnect like tf

[quick coyote]

The Winch Claw doesn’t need a nerf, maybe if it wasn’t the only counter to light players, & a little AR BUFF for Medium, (Scar or Famas) then it wouldn’t be an issue. Heavy has been nerf for three seasons, yet they keep removing items from Medium, & that’s why this whole meta is light.

[patent wind]

fix spear right click

[solemn fulcrum]

Haven't played with Winch myself, but I've just seen what my teammate did with it and a sledgehammer, this stuff needs to be nerfed

[abstract coyote]

One last thing is grammar has nothing to do with IQ lol so jokes on you.

[toxic violet]

Plz give an option to toggle season 1 level of audio. I'd prefer to hear too much than literally nothing at all.

[gilded hull]

nerf the model

[runic gull]

R. 357 is the worst weapon in the game. ineffective from a distance. cannot be aimed closely. damage is very low. Light kills the character in 3 hits. nonsense. It is impossible to hit a target without aiming. I regret buying the animation set.

[tepid summit]

having a airgun as a skin or maybe even its own gun would be cool to see

[abstract coyote]

Make throwing knives have a cool down rate after 6 throws where they have an animation where they pull knives out of a pouch or etc.
Nerf model shotgun
Give back recon sense to see lights with cloaking but make it like 20-25 meters
Nerf the timing of glitch traps after being placed to activate within a second.

!Give medium a healing bomb!
Every class but medium has two of the same abilities/gadgets. Light has cloaking and vanishing bombs. Heavy has dome shield and mesh shield. Give medium a healing bomb that only gives players 50% of what they are missing. For example if you start out with 200 health but loose 100 when using the healing bomb grants 50. Just 50% of missing health it would make it where it wouldn’t be OP and it would keep the medium as a standard supporter.
Nerf winch claw to where players can’t be pulled in as heavy is supposed to be defensive if pulling someone and no way to escape makes heavy’s not seem as a defense anymore but as a build of defense/attack. Making heavies to OP especially if ran against 3 heavies or even 2.
Bring back OG cash out ranked!
Come out with a new event like each season had within the middle of season.

[quiet quarry]

**NERF THE MODEL ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ ⬅️ **
if you do this then don't instantly int and make light free again
the most fun meta you have had was HHM which felt like overwatch 1
listen to ANYONE in this channel?

[brave sable]

bring back dead go boom since all these heavy’s wanna use wench claw

[drowsy relic]

Winch claw sucky bollocks

[thorn kelp]

Only nerf it needs is a spread nerf. Other than that, it's fine

[rain imp]

Add Pipe Bombs cause they would be cool ig

[quick coyote]

I like this idea as a heavy main, there’s no reason to nerf the Winch Claw, if they brought back Dead Go Boom. All they have to do is make the game fun again.

[sudden tangle]

will tomorrow's patch give me a reason to play (emerald)? or will i keep not playing this game @pearl kiln

[patent wind]

no. hhm is stale. anything but that

[night glen]

Yes... Dead go BOOM was fun

[earnest pilot]

We need Input based Matchmaking

[stark notch]

They went on vacation.

[smoky gust]

spread also makes it easier to hit your shots in close range

id give it more damage falloff instead

[tall kernel]

Please let me leave a world tour match without penalty if I have no team, never mind just saw that I can. Thank you 🙂

[thorn kelp]

Dude, don't ping the dev, especially the community lead 🤦🏽‍♂️

[daring fossil]

lol bro, double-barrel is so bad and inconsistent, it's not viable in any sense of the word, I've been maining it since embark destroyed the LH1, sometimes I do good with it, most of the time it does 12hp at point blank and then I die. This post basically just confirms to me that anything that kills you needs nerfs

[hidden locust]

Hot take ima get flamed for
I think this section should be used by the devs as ideas theres pros and cons a lot of people add great ideas and constructive criticism but tht same amount genuinely cry
For example i think melee is annoying but deserves a place
Ppl will scream tht its OP meanwhile tht user is getting fucked up and gettin situational kills so some things are out of perspective the devs listen a bit too much
"Oh lmgs have too much kills" not realizing its bc ppl are opening up with RPG or charge which inflates the kills
Basically what im saying is in terms of balance we're apart of what we cry about not meat riding the devs bc they definitely nerf too much without compensation "oh this gun or gadget is overshadowing stuff" so instead of buffs to other tgings we get massive nerfs
Overall i think the communities opinions should matter but if the devs put their foot down it'd be a better game
We all have passion for the game but with tht it comes out negative or emotional

Side note as i said these are concepts its embarrassing seeing arguments happen over ideas as if that person is a dev even if ideas are whacky lets hear people out it makes for engaging conversation and new perspectives

[solemn fulcrum]

Certain things are indeed OP in the right hands tho

[modern fjord]

I think a real skin for the tracking dart should be added, only really use it for the final round in WT but would be cool to have like a blow dart kind of thing for it (@quick coyote idea ^)

[quick coyote]

blow dart skin for tracking dart plz ^^^^^

[sudden tangle]

release season 4 now, literally no one in this discord is playing the finals rn. s3 killed the game

[quick coyote]

anyone else got crash when trying to run the game

[velvet olive]

PLEASE DO THE FN FAL FOR MEDIUM ❤️❤️

[pastel ravine]

what would be a decent score to get ruby for the end of the season

[burnt notch]

1. Recon sense was already at a range of 20m before it got removed. Plus if u only want it back to see cloaked lights, that’s a skill issue there, either get better headphones to hear them or get better eyes, cuz they are not at all hard to spot.
2. For throwing knives, I feel like a reload animation wouldn’t be very convenient or fitting for the weapon. What I think should be changed is have the fire rate slow down consistently the longer you throw knives in one click.

If game is very easy for you you should be able to track cloaked lights well enough to not be asking for recon senses to spot them.

@shy swan nerf invis spam? Invis can only be spammed a maximum of 2 times since the usage cost is 33% of its charge.

[abstract coyote]

Definitely don’t have a skill issue as game is really easy to me. Just had my own opinion as you are Entitled to yours. But your opinion on throwing knives I do like. But anywho still your opinion
Only want recon back bc it was decent and don’t always want to strap a headset to my head just to listen for lights. Also not just for lights for all classes but would definitely help against cloaks

[daring fossil]

i know how to use a shot gun thanks, i think you just want everything that kills you nerfed

[cosmic ether]

isn't that what most of this channel is? :^)

[next rock]

Id rather fight a shotgun than an MP5

[sonic spoke]

I want this to be true... But not holding my breath.

[abstract coyote]

This channel is meant for “game feedback” to the Devs not for people to talk back on other peoples ideas that becomes your own opinion not helpful but only to your own satisfaction. Leave it up to the devs to decide on ppls ideas on the game. Leave as is. Say what you want about this message you don’t know me I don’t know you and it will remain that way careless on what anyone says. >:D #🥊┇fair-play

[dry raft]

WTF. What is your rank ?
Embark don't listen to casuals please they want another game

[wet star]

Adjust the self damage from rpg to match what it would deal to an enemy. Plenty of scenarios where i use it point plank and it deals 140 to the enemy but 230ish to me

[iron wren]

stfu

[daring fossil]

this floor has been fucked up in vegas sandstorm for months right where the cashout is

[quick coyote]

I like it ♥️ It should stay

[mossy karma]

Because that's not the way RPG should be used thats why u receive more damage

But those 300iq players just refuse to understand

[silent fog]

That's intended...

[wise cliff]

Heavy is fair and balanced.
No, seriously. How TF has Heavy not been nerfed? The explosives rework doesn't count as a real nerf, nor the recoil pattern changes on the LMGs.

[bleak nexus]

A 7-6 loss should NEVER do -1300 you are out of your fucking mind embark

[tired bough]

thank you for giving me a penalty, because 2 other teammates left the game from the start, love it. Instead I must wait until I lose the match, which 100% makes sense

[full forum]

Is anyone just getting random crashes ?

[shy smelt]

ive been complaining about this literally all season same here.

also, those guys probably got booted because the PC version of the game requires you to be logged into steam apparently. and steam just went down like a few minutes ago. that may be it.

speaking of which, who's idea was it to BAN all PC players at the same time whenever steam servers restart? you dont even use steam other than to log into the game on startup, the game uses embark's own ID system, why is that even necessary? why are there no measures in place to pardon players who get kicked in this manner or have teammates that get kicked because of this?

[shy swan]

ehhh wym. what rank have to do with it. they got rid of cashout ranked and why grind ranked terminal when you inevitably have to play boring meta medium shotgun and have to be even more bored when spectating. am i wrong? what u think the worst suggestion on this list? "another game", how?

suggestions -

• nerf medium shotgun
• nerf throwing knives
• nerf light shotgun
• nerf rpg
• nerf heal rate of heal beam
• nerf defib hp
• nerf invis spam
• nerf charge and slam damage
• buff riot shield size
• buff smoke grenades thickness
• buff spear
• reduce visual recoil for v9s
• buff dematerializer depth (one mele hit props blocking your way is not fun especialy in vegas)
• buff duel swords reflect cone
• buff burst pistol
• buff flash grenade (can make snipers go very blind when ads at flash from distance)
• add heavy 50 cal sniper
• add 1 extra explosive landmine
• reduce lewis gun recoil
• make ads sensitivity go to %200 (or overhaul sensitivity settings compleatly since its very bare bones n)
• character loadouts preset saves
• xp for having your mic on for a whole game
• bring back team wipe penalty for tornament cashout gamemode
• make both terminal attack and tournament have the same normal skill based rank system
• add seeing player cards in friends list
• add party leader being able to transfer party into private match when creating one.
• add voice and text chat between ur team and enemy teams during introduction and ending
• make disable voice chat hold or double tap to toggle (very easy to accidentaly press it)
• DISABLE AUTO VAULTING OPTION (accidentally vaulting is one of the most annoying things in the game similar to auto aim mele)
• show class on death icons for quality of life for choosing who to rez first.

ideas -

• remote control drone specialty? (flashes destroy the drones)
• sticky grenade? (just a sticky grenade with longer fuse time n slightly higher damage)
• recon sense (acts like a tracking dart for everyone your looking at but works for shorter time)
• low hp clone specialty for light or medium?
• black balaclava cosmetic
• more team colors for easier distinction?
• minigun deployable specialization for heavy?

[stark notch]

had a bug where I couldnt revive or use and spec/gadgets. a bit similar to the non-shooting bug :^)

[thick minnow]

Tough reading what you wrote because I still love this game, however, you are 100% correct. It's been so bad that I've went from playing everyday to taking 3-4days off in a row.

[daring fossil]

same, i played every day for hours, now i might play ever 2 days for a few matches

[shell grail]

I've experienced a frustrating streak of first-round losses on the World Tour, and it's disheartening not to earn any badges under the current system. Perhaps a 1-2 participation badge losses would be helpful. Even if I lose 4-5 times in a row, some form of slow progression would be encouraging. But also I should get gud so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[timid parrot]

Agree it's the bronze players that want all these nerfs it's ridiculous

[harsh sable]

im so hype for update tmr :D

[late raft]

Nerf the lights especially the goddamn snipers this shit is annoying asf

[upper citrus]

Top players and players who understand the game want nerfs and buffs. What differentiates that from other people is reasoning. The rpg needs a nerf because it’s a must pick and is inherently unhealthy for the game. The model needs a nerf because it is too oppressive for the support class and is unable to be contested by most light weapons. The xp54 needs a small nerf because it is a super generalist weapon that doesn’t commit to any playstyle and still outperforms the more committal light weapons that are already good.

[tired bough]

I hecking love when 1 Light can wipe the whole squad with a sword and jump, very balanced ty. Unlucky that a Light has fkn invisibility in his pocket, a stun grenade, sword, which 2 taps everyone, and a fkn dash.

[fervent vortex]

Balance is fine right now, besides model and glitch mine, model needs its range cut in half and glitch mine needs to just straight up be killed because everyone agrees this is prob the worst meta the game has ever had

[rugged temple]

Not really. Glitch mines aren't that much of a problem compared to stuff like rpg. They still deserve a nerf tho.

[mellow gust]

any idea when they get back?

[night glen]

In this next patch, can you please make Kyoto a worse map for Cash out? It sucks pretty horribly now, but making it even less enjoyable would follow suit with the other additions to this game the past few patches.

[mossy tinsel]

buff explosive mine??? really??

[steel cloak]

pls fix the god damn heavy sledgehammer and light dagger so its not a random gamble if u get hit or not . Dagger players just dash and doesn't even hit u from behinde even if u turn around so that they can't hit your back but still get the 320 dmg and sometimes he is not even close to me and still lands it somehow. Same with the sledgehammer the animation is over from the right click big boink and the hammer already hit the floor but they slide 1 cm closer after the animation went out and u get the 200 dmg its just frustrating u trying to run away from it and u need to have the luck on your side every time they swing it.

[next yoke]

Three hours and I couldn't even cash out once, I'm not even playing tournaments, it feels like everybody is just so, SO, much better. I love the game but this was the last straw for me. I'm way to bad for this game.

[twilit torrent]

I think the most unhealthy thing for the game is the items that are "must picks" items, where you can basically only choose between a few weapons or gadgets for each class. These include

For Light
xp 54/sword/knives
dash
vanish bomb
sonar

For Medium
Heal beam(for coordinated teams)
Model/Fcar/AKM
Jump pad
defib (especially, no medium build doesn't have it)

For Heavy
The weapons are actually pretty balanced, but some, like the grenade launcher, are unusable.
Winch/charge n slam
RPG
Bubble shield

[upper citrus]

Kind of but also not really. Macro balancing is okay at a glance, heavy is finally not dominating lobbies but everything left on the class that’s good is unhealthy. There just isn’t enough for the class to be dominant anymore.

Light has some micro balancing issues between primary weapons and invis is still poorly designed for a competitive shooter.

Medium doesn’t have enough active support and utility. Most of the class is placing something down and forgetting about it. And the model has way too much range.

This is the closest the game has ever been to “balanced” but also just as unhealthy and poorly designed as ever

[fervent vortex]

yeah ima keep it a buck you cant mention comp then write this out, for casual the game is in a fine state but for comp its literally unplayable to a point that people have started thinking about adding a gentlemans ban on glitch mines, it fully kills any chance for defib and makes pushing a cashout impossible since you insta lose shield then get 2 tapped by model, shit is giga aids, but you medium comment is fully wrong its a support class that takes skill to get the most out of the abilities and invis is not a problem and allowes light to play the video game

[livid tiger]

erm you must be jokin

[waxen token]

erm

[quick coyote]

Aside from conversion itself, i would definitely advocate for glitch mines to just be wiped off the face of the earth. The game generally is starting to have a lot of CC items and it's seriously insufferable. From stun gun to winch and now glitch mines.

[patent wind]

i agree completely, just some of these are incorrect imo. especially for light. dash, invis and grapple are all valid, especially with the nerfs to invis and dash and buff to grapple. vanish bomb is not needed. sonar is DEFINITELY not a must pick. im surprised stun and glitch arent on there.

medium. famas. zipline.

heavy. all of the specs are valid except goo. barricade should be on there. and bub is pretty accurate except that nerfing it isnt going to help, since its the only shield that you dont have to hold up and can shoot through it. theyd have to add another shield alternative

[thick minnow]

When is VEGAS being added to power shift?

[versed sorrel]

Hot take a "must pick item" in and of itself is not unhealthy, when it becomes a problem is very game dependent. The notion that must picks are always unhealthy tends to come from games with entire character must picks, Hero shooters like OW, Apex, or Valorant. As well as character based shooters like rainbow six siege. Because in those games "must pick" characters tend to create very stale experiences for both the person playing the must pick and the person fighting the must pick. If an ability creates one repetitive gameplay loop any time it is present, it becomes a problem.

[potent solar]

revert dash nerf, was barely viable (if that) at high level, complete non-pick now. add sbmm to a degree for casuals or just throw beginners in with diamonds to observe what they wish to ruin next. maybe then their complaints will be more accurate

[torpid sky]

fix this shit when? it has been in the game since the explosive range 'nerf'
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267617269874430023/1270535366687981630/behind_the_wall_rpg_dmg.mp4?ex=66b40dc4&is=66b2bc44&hm=5e2cf6a31ae35a939a345b95cc098ccbc9e8a201507aab0b15f7d1b360333002&

[civic igloo]

please tone down with reposting the same feedback

[upper citrus]

i dont think you understood what i said

[untold willow]

pleaseeee make glitch 7-8 seconds, 5 seconds is ok for glitch barrel but glitch grenade should have an advantage of barrel since barrel is instant.

[tulip juniper]

Why can a light make a goo nest at the top of the map on the tower in Seoul?

[quick coyote]

I don’t think people should complain about a gadget or a weapon unless they acknowledge the weapons and gadgets that they use. Everything is leaning towards light class. that’s not how balance works. “Nerf everything M & H but leave light class alone” it’s a joke.

I want to go back to losing money on team wipes!!

[thorn kelp]

Friendly reminder for the devs to please overlook 95% of comments here

[cosmic ether]

seeing people wanting the model nerfed is kinda wild...

[versed sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[quick coyote]

You're complaining about light without acknowledging practically anything.

[cold bolt]

fcar got nerfed and akm has poop sights so ppl gravitated towards shotty and all of a sudden it's an issue after 3 seasons

[patent wind]

uh, no. if anything is a must pick then its broken. rpg is a must pick because its op, and rpg is op so its a must pick. vice versa basically

[torpid sky]

glitch barrel should only glitch for 1s and glitch nades for 5s and glitch traps shouldn't have lingering effect (when u exit the 10m range u shouldn't be glitched for a whole second) also reduce the range of the traps to 5m or smth holy shit it's so annoying
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267617269874430023/1270277606402691145/Replay_2024-08-06_08-38-27-00.00.52.099-00.00.56.209.mp4-compressed.mp4?ex=66b3c675&is=66b274f5&hm=a0a101800d94818b13becd09eb0243dd2381e0406040d26893f84641b5004514&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646994680051007508/1270547864677908522/image.png?ex=66b41968&is=66b2c7e8&hm=f6789a6d85d37ced2928ab447a57ca1c24e2146b230c50c88cdb833aa00d9483&

[quick coyote]

No, it’s been fine for three seasons.
It’s just that so many people are playing light class and all the assault rifles got a nerf, the pick rate for the shotty is high. They removed four things from medium in two seasons, (Sonar, Recon,) (Healing Beam & Defib in ranked) how is that fair?

[slate mauve]

Backfilling Quick-Play needs to stop unless the backfiller is immune to stat penalty. Powershift is a huge problem when it comes to backfilling

If someone leaves a quick-play match, no one on teams gets stat penalty.

[livid tiger]

is kyoto weighted or something?

[edgy urchin]

just dont play a class thats entirely relyant on spamming teleport

light needs a damage balance, just played a round where 2 lights went 26 and 7 against teams of mediums and heavies

[quick coyote]

FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME WHY IS LAND MINES NOT GOING OFF WHEN THEY HIT THEM

[stark notch]

nerfing the ARs and LMGs has indirectly buffed the model sadly

[potent solar]

I play everything, prefer light dash. It is harder to win with that loadout than the other 2 classes when you get to higher elo. which gamemode are you playing? I play wt (would prefer s2 ranked), we have no problems with lights and there are few games where they are the majority. If so, few make it to the 2nd round

[night vortex]

I think the biggest problem for me with lights is that they are just the opposite of fun to play against. When going against heavies and mediums, even their most annoying loadouts don’t make me feel like closing the game.

This is also from a more casual player, so I’m sure a top 500 light main with 98% accuracy will respond with “just shoot em bro”. That’s just my opinion on it as someone that represents more of the average skill level. The heavy, even with their hook and sledge can be played around effectively since they have no movement. Mediums have been forced in to the support role which can get annoying but I don’t feel entirely helpless against the heal beam and model.

Being deleted by a M11, or having them run circles around me with unlimited throwing knives. Being bodyshot from half a mile out until they wear down the defenses on power shift. Even off meta things like stun and shotgun feel so unearned, even though they have low health. Every character in the game has low health as far as the light weapons are concerned, but not everyone has the escape and mobility of the lights. Which is where I think this feeling comes from.

TLDR: Opinions of a scrub about how light makes every single mode unfun.

[kind kite]

After the first round of my ranked terminal attack games, if we lose my teammates decide after one round they just wanna leave. This causes an unfair advantage for the other team and we always end up losing because we are down to a 4 vs 5 or sometimes even a 3 vs 5. This happens more often than it should, almost every other game. This kills my rank and I lose RS. This may be happening because im in silver ranks but due to this im just unable to rank up no matter my skill level. If Teammates leave within the first 6 rounds then everyone on the team should vote on a forfeit where you don't lose RS. Please add this to ranked TA so player don't lose RS for other peoples inconvenience. (READ THIS PLEASE!)

[edgy urchin]

Exactly my point playing against light isnt fun because they just spam click and do stupid amount of damage instantly and if you shoot back or get them low they run away and go invisible or just teleport around making it 10x harder to shoot them. Like what u said its not fun to play against at least with medium and light u can shoot through their shields or counter whatever they are doing in some way but its just impossible to play against lights especally good lights its not enjoyable

[quick coyote]

why cant a landmine kill a light when they can delete you in 2 seconds

[midnight aurora]

the hipfire for the sniper is way too good for how much damage it does

[quick coyote]

Good game just needs more counters to snipers

[crystal umbra]

I have updated the idea a bit since I understand ima couple things were not so easy to implement so here is a revision.

TLDR:
-PLEASE 🙏🏾 Create a system where we can create a designated group of people to play with
-Incentivize & encourage playing with this group of friends and completing contracts for specialty cosmetics
-Allow all contestants to fill out a prompt writing down their YouTube Gaming, Twitch, Kick accounts (and whatever game streaming platforms)
-Names on the leaderboard are now selectable
-Upon reaching top 500 in the leaderboard and their name plate becomes visible the names thus allowing us to view their various handles (effectively "shouting out" the top 500 contestants.)

---

✨FREE IDEA: "Company System"✨ Day 64

"Hey bro, hop on The Finals! We gotta complete the Company Contracts for the OSPUZE Set before the season ends"‼️

They need to make a "Company System" SOON.

Too much solo culture in The Finals but I believe this system would be good for the player count:

"Squads" or "Companies" should be able to select or vote for sponsors that they work for during that season:
-Vaiiya
-Volpe
-Engimo
-Ospuze
Etc.

During the season we should be able to grind for "fame" so they can get company drip (cosmetics) for completing these "company contracts":

A few contract examples:
-Win a tournament with squad mate
-Get to the final round with a full squad
-Play 3 matches with a full squad mate team
-Individually Get 1000 kills across all company members
-Individually get 300 kills this season
-Get 50 company member revives
-Get 50 company member assists
Note: these are supposed to be company specific contracts that encourage players to play with their squad members (and invite them back onto the game👀)
Something like this gives folks reason to hop back on the game because me and my friends are working towards a goal now as a lil community. +++ Add Bonus Points/XP for playing with company mates.

I don't imagine this really getting in the way of circuits, but it could be woven in. As of now I imagine it as a separate feature.

Important:
Create specialized cosmetics for these sponsors. Once your company selects one they are locked in for specialized one-time cosmetics.

This creates urgency AND rarity since -for example- the season 4 OSPUZE set will never show up again. (Same for Engimo, Vaiiya, etc.)
Remember, ONLY AVAILABLE FOR ONE SEASON

Top companies or individuals -up to you Embark- (i.e. companies with the most "fame" or money cashed out) are showed on the top of the World Tour leaderboard.
There we -the viewers- can select their names. Why? Because the top players should be able to Type out their various handles like their Twitch, YouTube, and other socials or streaming platforms.
^I think this should be easy to implement, you allow us to type out our social media handles and it's only visible if we reach the top 500 where we can be selected by all Finals player via the home screen.

✨((MAKE YOUR CONTESTANTS STARS))✨
I believe the above mentioned features will appeal to human nature and give us something to talk about amongst ourselves. Give us something to brag about.

You remember back when MLG E-Sports was a thing? Remember that vibe?
"Oh shxt, that's Oscar from 'x' Company". Allow us to have a bit of that feeling in our game and that will attract players for sure.

In real life athletes have sponsor drip, well in The Finals - "The world's greatest game-show" - it's no different.

We get to flex our specialized drop from our favorite sponsors (Opportunity to expand the lore)
And the top, most loyal and skillful finalists at the top get social media shout outs.

While emerald weapons are cool... I just think people will want to grind for their twitch stream or YouTube gaming account to get a shout out on the top of the leaderboard even more than just getting a skin tbh

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

[gilded hull]

i understand that, what i dont understand is why it has so much range
some examples is how it shoots me for half my health two buildings away
and it shoots a SPREAD of pellets
id understand if it one shot me while im within very close range of the medium but this is outrageous

also it doesnt take much brainpower to understand why healing beam and defib are banned in ta lol

[upper citrus]

it hasnt been fine for 3 seasons, the fcar was just better and more of an issue

[wet verge]

Nerf the throwing knives for the love of GOD

[kind kite]

After the first round of my ranked terminal attack games, if we lose my teammates decide after one round they just wanna leave. This causes an unfair advantage for the other team and we always end up losing because we are down to a 4 vs 5 or sometimes even a 3 vs 5. This happens more often than it should, almost every other game. This kills my rank and I lose RS. This may be happening because im in silver ranks but due to this im just unable to rank up no matter my skill level. If Teammates leave within the first 6 rounds then everyone on the team should vote on a forfeit where you don't lose RS. Please add this to ranked TA so player don't lose RS for other peoples inconvenience. (CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME SOME VALID FEEDBACK)

[icy anvil]

As a Jew, I want Jerusalem old city as a map. There will be no controversy at all, not with map destruction, or anything yes it should have map destruction give us a religion themed Season there will be nothing problematic about that

[near parcel]

what the sigma.

[torpid sky]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[eternal kayak]

Wench claw is hands down the worst thing ever added

[young hamlet]

No destruction?
You're tripping

[quick coyote]

Feedback be able to report people who leave so they have a Track Records of reports there Bans should be longer and longer ALSO WTF i just stopped 3 PEOPLE FROM STEALING IN A SINGLE round of Decrypting and none of then counted to Stop Opponents from stealing your cashout or decrypting a Terminal 5 times AND IT DIDNT GO UP PLEASE PLEASE FIX YOUR GAME

[patent wind]

gun game across all three classes except dagger is the last gun

[quick coyote]

Make teamwork a priority again please!

[thick minnow]

Agreed. I thought the increase in time to burn for fire with goo would help but it doesn't. Snipers main counter is other lights chasing them down. Recon senses were removed because of no counter but what about snipers and you are a M or H?

[fresh shell]

Throwknives are literally a rapidfire shotgun + sniper with infinite ammo with their light instakill on sec, 2 hit kill on primary crap.
Doesn't help that all the controller aimbots get basically 100% accuracy with that shit while dashing like absolute lunatics.
Also put a fucking limiter on how close a teams turrets can be to each other. Tired of getting shredded by 3-5 god-aim turrets with exactly no way to obliterate them due to no loadout changes in modes like cashout and TA, or limited in qcash

[empty arrow]

Still waiting for unranked thing patched, would be nice to see how I’m progressing on the leaderboard

[clear quest]

Counter: Light - dash away asap after being pulled in. Medium - bounce pad below you as soon as you get pulled in. Heavy - Pray you can out DPS the sledgehammer

[kind kite]

After the first round of my ranked terminal attack games, if we lose my teammates decide after one round they just wanna leave. This causes an unfair advantage for the other team and we always end up losing because we are down to a 4 vs 5 or sometimes even a 3 vs 5. This happens more often than it should, almost every other game. This kills my rank and I lose RS. This may be happening because im in silver ranks but due to this im just unable to rank up no matter my skill level. If Teammates leave within the first 6 rounds then everyone on the team should vote on a forfeit where you don't lose RS. Please add this to ranked TA so player don't lose RS for other peoples inconvenience.

[quick coyote]

Buff m60

[patent wind]

https://the-finals-leaderboard.com/

[vivid saffron]

Nah, most of these are a non-solution. Light, maybe...maybe a good idea of a heavy is a alone, but the hit box on sledge is huge. the number of times I watch the thing land 5ft from me and kill is a non-starter. Medium...so most likely case scenario is I'm shot almost vertically up to be railed by his team, because I don't get to keep momentum after the pull, I magically get set down with no momentum right in front of the player--and then land amongst them? Heavy--once again, it's a team game. "pray you can out damage the sledge." Already bunk from the start because this game mostly doesn't have 1v1 fights and you're assuming your starting max health 1v1 versus one of the quickest killing weapons. It's just not going to happen. My friend and I do troll quick cashes where he winches, I stun, and then we just shit on the poor idiot. The only real counter to the massive damage of a sledge was to stay away from the already slow player--and you had to chance with their speed. The winch all but removes the counters and balancing of a heavy being slow and short on range with a melee.

[winter vapor]

they never will, the entire community has been asking for this for nearly 2 months and theyve done nothing. They only care about numbers and it gives the casual trash players something to main.

It makes bad players think theyre good, and that drives numbers.

Same with the heavies, those complaining about lights dashing around them because they cant aim and keep up with a moving target got what they wanted. A grapple gun...

Now as a heavy you have 2.5-3x the health, can 1 shot lights with no cons.

It used to be movement, but now you can grab them across the map with the grapple, completely disabling their movement, the ability to fire, and bringing them point blank range to 1 shot them with no skill what so ever.

The casuals will love this and it keeps them playing.

They buffed every mine and rpg splash, enabling more spam.

They never wanted this to be a competitive game and every decision they make shows it.

Its made for casuals, by casuals, and will slowly die out.

So many good fraggers i know uninstalled, and it will only continue.

[restive nest]

let me block kyoto🙏
i do not want to matchmake into any more kyoto games, please

[jade inlet]

yo bluefrog#6570 is hacking, posting ip address in chat

[nova solar]

Based

[rocky cypress]

who sometime load into a game and the whole game crashes because i had to restart my whole computer yesterday to play again

[valid cradle]

preach!!!!

[eager ivy]

hope the next patch is good or the finals gonna stay uninstalled lmao. Watch them buff throwing knifes i wouldnt put it past them.

[patent wind]

remove light and heavy. remove all guns except riot shield. remove all gadgets and specializations. remove all cashouts and cashboxes. remove all carriables. make every map a flat plane of concrete.

there, game balanced, no more cheaters. yw

[kind kite]

After the first round of my ranked terminal attack games, if we lose my teammates decide after one round they just wanna leave. This causes an unfair advantage for the other team and we always end up losing because we are down to a 4 vs 5 or sometimes even a 3 vs 5. This happens more often than it should, almost every other game. This kills my rank and I lose RS. This may be happening because im in silver ranks but due to this im just unable to rank up no matter my skill level. If Teammates leave within the first 6 rounds then everyone on the team should vote on a forfeit where you don't lose RS. Please add this to ranked TA so player don't lose RS for other peoples inconvenience.

[teal thistle]

a collection of visual bugs, turret kept happening for replacement prompt

[oblique olive]

who tf thought "Stop opponents from stealing cashout or decrypting a terminal" for 15 fucking times would be good

[empty arrow]

Add a rotating ltm like smoking gun but switch the weapons useable every hour to day that way you can test balancing while having a similar fun casual experience to smoking gun. You could even go so far as to switch the game mode and have game mode rule changes but lack of ltms this season has been ongoing and seeing how smoking gun was already a previous game mode it would be as though you’re changing the framework of the game

[eternal kayak]

Please remove wench please for the love of the game its worse than nukes

[edgy urchin]

quickcash > terminal attack idc

[versed hazel]

realest reaction ive ever seen in this channel

[nova solar]

No 😛

[vestal basin]

The new cashout system is so stupid, people are just stealing cash and put in cashout with lights to qualify

[quaint forge]

Make nama tama do the thug shaker

[fervent bay]

PLEASE MORE CONTESTENT SLOTS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

[lament gate]

i crashed as the game was at the beginning and then i reconnected played the game out and then got a 50 minute ban?? like how does that make sense? please fix that issue or the issue of crashing in the first place like now i have to sit her and wait an hour for not doing anything??

[woven hawk]

This is the only game I play, 1000h in-game time across all, & I love it.

Turrets see you when no human will. They track you like no humam could. Wrap around, sneak from behind & distract the enemy, none of it matters to AI aimbot true track turrets.

Fly perpendicular to the enemies at high speeds and surprising acceleration, none of it matters to AI.

When you sneak it's a snitch, when you fly it's a witch it'll fly right at your speed no broom needed.

With dash nerf, all of this has been heightened and I never ever thought of leaving the game until I tried Lshotgun, forcing me to get close against oppressive snitching turrets shooting me through trees telling enemies where I am before I get there.

Too often is it the only thing that can and does hit me. Causing me death and loss, no reward for mental manipulation or super speed.

Take my stun away or take a whole gadget slot away. Change turrets please.

[eternal kayak]

Skill less

[tribal spoke]

Praying for dual blades bug fixes and buffs tommorow 🙏

[nova solar]

😛

[shell raven]

light quite literally has the best tools to deal with turrets - glitch grenades to shut down the turrets, and vanish bombs to be able to cross turret LOS without being noticed. beyond that, frags will decimate turrets if they are anyhwere near them, and any sort of destruction allows you to just destroy the wall/ceiling/floor its on and largely make it a nonissue. and while destroying turrets is harder with the dual barrel shotgun, that's the tradeoff you make for using a weapon that can decimate the person who placed said turret in two shots. if people placing turrets on roofs shooting you from a distance is causing you trouble (which it seems like it is), I would reccomend using thermal bore and just destroing the roof its on, allowing you to approach it and giving you an alternate enterance into whatever building the turret was on

[maiden horizon]

Tbh I think we should just be happy with what we got in my opinion the game feels balanced like a light dies a lot maybe even 7 deaths after 10 minutes and I hate it when people complain about lights like you say you get shredded but with our weapons unless with hit every shot you can fight back (this doesn't include throwing knifes sword LH1 and dagger) and if you complain about lights just use heavy. Or try to find a way to make it a more fair fight. Light is balanced. Also turrets may have really good aim but there also balanced you can take out a turret with one mag or a couple swings with a melee or throw a frag pryo something so while they are annoying it makes sense as its a special, Also invis for light is perfect you cant abuse it during a fight you use it to get in and out of places and for recon you can only use it like 3 times before it runs out of juice and dash isn't that op there are plenty of ways to deal with dash,

[kind kite]

After the first goddamn round of my ranked terminal attack games, if we lose my fucking teammates decide its ok to just leave. This causes an unfair advantage for the other team and we always end up getting buttfucked because we are down to a 4 vs 5 or sometimes even a 3 vs 5. (Basically Gangbanging) This happens more often than it fucking should, (almost every other game.) This rapes my rank and I lose an extreme amount of RS. This shit is happening because im in silver ranks with tards and fuckboys but due to this I'm just unable to rank up no matter my goddamn skill level. If my back of the bus sitting Teammates leave within the first 6 rounds then everyone on the team should vote on a forfeit and not lose RS. Add this im not playin. We need a non punishable way to end ranked games early so fuck tards like my teammates dont ruin it for us.

[quick coyote]

As a beta player, if light doesn’t get a nerf, I’m going back to Apex. They actually gave people what they asked for. ✨

[thorn kelp]

Don't come back 🗣️🔥

Apex when they finally give back to the community multiple seasons later, yet we do that every season

[woven hawk]

@shell raven Yeah there are ways to deal with anything. Like rpg, I don't care about it at ALL. I deal with it, I love VSing humans. Dealing with true track AI aimbot is different.

It does not care for skill which humans cannot defeat, like super speed. AI is faster. As a snitch, even if you sneak from behind, below, & through trees to glitch it will reveal your position; you throw it & already lost 100hp by the time it explodes. I vanish, its target acquisition speed is inhuman and starts shooting you the moment it goes away, sometimes even as you throw it basically deleting the vanish. Either way, I want to attack the objective where these turrets are, not hide from them.

Fragging turrets, missing throws, throwing too far etc that's all too slow. We die from them in the meantime or from their human counterparts because it again revealed my smart (against humans) position.

My next consideration is using thermal bore SOLELY for turrets. I hope it destroys them in 1 shot (I mainly play power shift)

[oblique olive]

one dose of fsr 3 please

[ivory pivot]

You and everyone else that's left the dying game, CB, OB and S1 I was top 500 but the light main losers will cry about how their class is bad whilst everyone else leaves, then they will cry that the game is dead. It's a team based game yet their rotted tic toc brain can't get their dopamine shot because they can't 1vX constantly (like they shouldn't) so they must cry to devs, but to give it to them, they do cry the loudest by far!

[quick coyote]

Go back to apex. Light was nerfed and gets bodied by heavy in literally every possible scenario and you're still complaining

[surreal thistle]

Can we give the katana skin a unique charge animation where the player sheaths the weapon and swipes for the attack. we can keep the same hitbox as the original charge attack. just thought that would be a cool little addition for the skin. 🙂

[rough herald]

bye bye 👋 see you never!

[fickle oracle]

I'd like to design a new gadget for Medium next Season - a gadget that slows down the passage of time, which grenades, movement, firing rate, building breakage, withdrawal time, and steal time are all slowed down, regardless of teammates or enemies. Radius hit by glitch barrel or glitch grenade instantly deactivates.

[sonic spoke]

I really like this skin, but i love the overhand rack

[sinful mirage]

Hiiii

[quick coyote]

• revert m60 to s2

• buff Lewis gun recoil

• nerf rpg

• buff medium dual blades

• buff CL40

• Nerf light XP’s range

What's wrong with RPG?

[daring fossil]

I think RPG should one-shot a light on direct hit but have terrible splash damage unless you're in it's direct path like a real rpg

[worn tapir]

literally the smallest problem in the game atm 😭 there are so many bigger issues right now that threaten the continuity of the game as a whole

[rough herald]

it do 140 damage on direct for no reason
vs a 150hp class

@daring fossil one shot don't belong in a game with long ttk and the sniper is an exception

@small pelican +1

[small pelican]

ZUSE GIVE HEAVY AN ANIT TANK RIFE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[balmy apex]

i support

[quick coyote]

I personally think rpg should not be centered around killing people and maybe more on the destruction side of things because shockingly, heavy is meant to demolish the map.

Could be interesting to see it have a massive aoe and structural damage but less player damage

[night vortex]

I feel like that role could better suit the C4.

I miss the days of sniping a light from way out and getting a one hitter. Maybe have the damage slowly increase over time as the rocket gets moving? So it’s not maximum damage on players until like 20m or something. That way lights aren’t getting point blanked.

[daring fossil]

nah if they made the projectile slower and made it only possible to 1-shot on direct hit, it would be fine. It does 140 damage without a direct hit right now. It should have more emphasis on destruction and require a skill-shot for damage. been saying this since season 1 before they nerfed it to where it is now

[solemn fulcrum]

140 damage is too much, everyone using it as an opener tool. Almost every heavy resorts to using RPG immediately which leaves light one-shot and med too vulnerable

[short crater]

Massive Hacker Problem

[idle oracle]

RPG probably should be more focused on guaranteed long range structure damage than player damage. Increase AoE a bit, nerf player damage by at least half if not more, increase structure damage, and give it a shorter cd and maybe two charges (with reload between). If done, decrease also self-damage. That way, it can be used to create gaps and holes for the heavies and their teammates to use and allow it to finish off some foes but not be the thing that dominated every start of an encounter.
Right now, as has been stated, it is not a fun gadget to face for mediums and lights, crippling the latter and severely weakening the former without allowing many counters but hoping the heavy happens to still be on the cd.

[night vortex]

My only problem with this is how easy it is for lights to stand well outside the heavies effective range, dishing out far more damage than 140 once on a sizable cooldown. Lights themselves have a weapons that is hitscan and oneshots lights from across the map. The LH1 and Bow are both effective at range. It sucks the light doesn’t outright beat the heavy at all ranges and scenarios, but the light has more than enough ways to deal with a slow moving projectile.

[quick coyote]

RPG is not a slow moving projectile..

[cold bolt]

ok this is 2 hour reply but any lb before s2 is kinda meaningless since they didn't even have elo lololol

[stray vapor]

guys, it's 2nd knockout round, but Im missing a team and where are the other players????? 2 teams only on 2nd knockout round?

[rough herald]

I don't support rpg being a killing tool rather then a utility range distuction tool tbh

Mainly because one shot are just unfun to fight in genaral

[buoyant helm]

Another great day to start with CRASHES OF THIS STUPID GAME!

[real scroll]

Cloak ability is still insanely strong and is need of a nerf. It gets spammed way too much and kind of makes the gun fights in the game really boring when you just constantly get killed by someone you can't even see because they have been invisible for 70% of the game.

[solemn fulcrum]

I agree with lights having lots of ways to outplay RPG. I mean almost every light weapon has insane DPS, you just need to combine it with movement and a bit of rat play and voila you get the ultimate killer meta class.

However, 140 dmg is still too much, and for that reason every heavy uses it by default which isn't right. Heavy has enough stuff to counter almost anything (shields) and now it has absolutely ridiculous Winch.

[short crater]

Nerf Sniper or i will quit this Game

[warm compass]

. quick cash respwan is so far you only have one chance to steal it back and cash terminal so fast it remove the tension of the game bring everything back to seasson 1 for quick cash

[elfin dock]

bring BACK TEAM WIPE PENALTY

[ivory pivot]

good rebuttal!

[night vortex]

How would you like to see it balanced? Just a flat damage reduction? I think no matter what the RPG will be used as an opener for combat or cracking defenses. It makes sense to use it as early as possible so that you may have the opportunity to use it again in the middle of the combat you’re entering.

Another interesting thing you’re right about is that every heavy uses it by default, and you’re 100% correct on that. I don’t necessarily think that’s because it’s so good, but because the heavies have the least interesting/useful options of the three. It also struggles the most at range, and the RPG is really the only consistent way for Heavy to attack at anything at range. I’d happily give up the RPG if the heavy offered something more interesting in its place. The C4 is effectively just a worse version of RPG, and the two shields. Anti grav is the only interesting utility we have. The rest is just standard kit. I think if the kit was more diversified you’d likely see more.

If I had some sort of heavy marksman rifle I’d probably drop the RPG, but that’s more my trios playstyle. Personally id prefer they buff a handful of options, nerf some extreme outliers. But in general it’s more fun when things are powerful, as far as I think.

[mossy karma]

Winch needs to be reworked or (if you guys can't balance it properly) removed from the game

Melee Heavies were doing totally fine with goo gun or slam in S2 and im saying this as S2 D2 Sledge heavy main

Winch + Sledge is a cancer combo which is very popular among noobs who still can't do shit and barely make 5 kills in a round but ruin normal people experience and make them quit the game

Here's my idea how winch claw should be reworked:
• CD increased to 10-15 seconds
• Reduce distance from which you can reach the rival with a hook
• Increase the distance between the victim and those who use the Winch Claw by the time grapple animation ends
° Lights are the fastest and are dragged almost as close to the Winch user as they are now
° Mediums are dragged close but out of reach Sledge secondary attack
° Heavies are dragged close but out of reach of Sledge primary and secondary attacks
• Make it possible for victims to shoot and equip/prepare (but not use) gadgets during hook animation
• Fix winch dragging players through obstacles

You might also give this reworked winch to mediums as they lack distance-breaking Specialization for melee setups

[smoky gust]

Heavy does have some interesting options and synergies
But any time i try to build around it, im reminded that i cant decide for myself what the 3rd slot will be, because nothing will match rpg
Its boring
I really want to use other stuff without feeling like im letting my team down and throwing away wins

[rough herald]

patch note?

https://tenor.com/view/where-you-at-gif-21177622

[cold bolt]

I ain't read any context I just like clowning on ppl flexing a non elo leaderboard placement like it means anything lololol

may as well flex your wt "rank"

[desert glacier]

Why did they ruin the finals and make it a melee and shotgun game. There’s barely any real gun skill fights medium or long range. Everyone is using melees, shotgun, or flamethrower. I played this game since beta. I loved beta and all its issues. I loved season 1 and 2 with ALL of its issues not being a deal breaker for me. Since the start of season 3 I felt scammed that I spent so much money on a game that I thought would be fun forever. Now it’s so unplayable that I haven’t touched in since season 3 release. I tried playing in today for the first time in nearly two months, and I couldn’t enjoy a single moment. It feels like they took a passionate unique game, and are trying to turn it into every other game. Probably because of greedy motives to try to make more money and gain the audience of people who play other games. Now they’re starting to lose their original fan base. Like when was the last time you saw gigz play the finals? I checked his twitch and the last time was 2 months ago. This game is chalked.

[alpine rain]

[rotund sluice]

Perfect balance update for the RPG - make it so you always have to do the reload animation when equipping. Prevents swapping to do quick damage, still allows for power, makes using it mid fight a liability.

[solemn fulcrum]

Significant damage reduction against people, but increased damage and blast range against buildings, tools and constructions.

Maybe give the RPG an optional scope that allows you to see tools through walls (for example default aiming is faster without scope, but if you scroll a wheel like in a sniper scope you character will slide a scope "panel").

With that, make "non-scoped" RPG rocket deal high gamage against structures, but the "scoped" RPG rocket will have 2 stages explosions: first stage of the rocket allows you to penetrate through walls and second is either EMP explosion or guaranteed tool kill if direct hit.

So basically, non-scoped RPG is just an advanced breach tool and scoped RPG is tactical breach tool to counter defenses with EMP from relatively controlled environment (since it can pen through walls)

[night vortex]

That’s complex enough to be its own thing. Like a bunker buster or something. That would be badass.

If they were to cut the damage to 75, keep the aoe and arena damage, but give it two charges would that be enough of nerf? It’s more of a lateral balance.

[real scroll]

why does the sword do 150 damage in less than 1 second?

[crisp bolt]

embark something has got to be done about light we need a class limit system for teams i cant even progress in world tour cause im always getting 2 light teammates and they constantly die this has got to stop

[rain shadow]

Have a same issue. Was a bummer to find out animations uncompatible

[sudden summit]

rip

[ivory pivot]

Whatever makes you happy

[native kraken]

does this game have AI players?

[torpid sky]

Well yes but actually no

[elfin dock]

not really ig

[woven hawk]

Season 4 in space 🚀 👾 ? Instead of jump-pads a new sponsor makes tele-pads ?

[potent solar]

the feedback from all of my friends that tried and left was that it got stale. I think you could add in-game event mini games without having to create new assets:

• bounce house - fill the arena with jump pads, some at angles so you're not constantly going up and down
• zip line race way - make a course with lanes to traverse faster
• cashout or vault tug of war or soccer - similar scoring to powershift, who ever moves it furthest or scores vault throws gets more points

I think some other things like low friction and reduced item cooldowns, reduced respawn timers etc are examples of ways to mix it up that wont require tons of resources on your end that could really help. right now the in game events (other than low grav) dont really matter. the movement is fun and a minigame in and of itself, why not lean into it and make it feel even more cool?

(reddit suggested things like dead go boom/gas/flash/goo/glitch, that could be cool)

• also, make the money text reward for kills and deposits BIG and graphical. maybe in the upper left, I understand that its small to not take away from visibility, but it needs to be a big deal to encourage and educate players when they take actions that make money. a lot of newbies dont prioritize vault deposits because it doesnt click that they can win that way with the current gamestate

[twin hatch]

fix ur dc bug, banned again for joining back

[steel forge]

How about:

In Unrated, you can still use all your ablities with no limits, like now
But in ranked, you can choose your preferred class and lock it in before queing, like in Overwatch, so in ranked there is not a spamming classes but a balanced game always

[rancid dagger]

They should do a test server with this so they can see if people like that or not

[short crater]

Nerf SNIPER

[silk cloud]

Love that you specifically mentioned in patch notes that you fixed Kyoto stairs, but the stairs are still broken. Which stairs did you fix instead?!

[torpid sky]

This crash literally happens to everyone, it should be prioritized on the crash fix list

[umbral lark]

hackers/ppl who afk/grief and troll games why is no option to leave game after both of ur teammates just killing eachothers with toxic/fire barrels and leave game

[potent solar]

a vote firmly against only HML as a team comp. tonight we went to the finals against a triple light invis shotgun team that was good and while it was annoying it was also FUN and REFRESHING play against something different. we've won with all riot shields, snipers, goo / goo ship sledges, all backstab knives you name it and those tournaments have been the most fun.

last seasons meta got stale because that was all that was viable, so I would hope to aim for having as many combos as possible be viable for future ranked play because people come up with some pretty creative things

a common complaint is that the game is too restrictive, spawning you in as a basic medium without the fun stuff, making the fun stuff far too long to access, forcing TA, etc and I think forcing people into set roles each game makes it even worse

[novel lily]

Delete The Sniper, it simply isnt meant for this game

[rough herald]

remove sniper entirely, it never fun to fight and the only 2 counter play is just bad while the 3rd is just don't peek (thats not a counter play in my book, thats just avoiding). even if they didn't hit a single shot at all the sniper existent alone make people change their playstyle (no skill free value)

counter play 1: you shoot the sniper (you die)
counter play 2: forsaken your random teammate to fight 2v3 while you try to kill the sniper, and when you finally get there
your team is dead and are berating you for going on your own and guess what? the sniper grapple away and it all started
again

[tacit mist]

when to update?

[high wing]

I heard that they are going to:
Implement server updates and improved netcode to address desync/delay issues
Enhance hit-registration to ensure all shots/hits are accurately registered
Improve game optimization for smoother gameplay, even on low settings
Fix for both crashes to desktop and overall PC crashing
Create more detailed player profiles, complete with match history and stats
A replay system
Allow the ability to view other players' steam/finals profiles/stats
Introduce class and loadout-specific keybindings
Improve visibility of stats/numbers on weapons and gadgets
Making the final round in cashout to be fun

@dim pawn This is fake, embark wouldnt improve on these things

[potent solar]

love the sniper, seriously underpowered in tournament play, on the tail end of the worst weapons to use in any sort of competitive cashout. yet here we are....................

on second thought.. please give all my opponents pool noodles with flashing red lights and sirens on them. I need time to plan, stand, emote & aim

also consider making a giant red button for me to push that wins the game or kicks teammates with loadouts that I don't approve of, allowing me to leave without penalty. I shouldn't have to tell every one to off themselves each game hoping they'll get the hint and leave so I can go next because they didn't play what I wanted. I'm a wt silver idk wtf they think they are doing

I don't like the feeling when they guy who we told has the worst loadout wins us the game anyway. this needs to be fixed in anticheat

be sure to never let my rank drop below 1, ever. do not allow other people to ever improve beyond my own ability through practicing the game.. and thinking.. make thinking & strats bannable for the enemy team. I need to come home, pound a prime, press w and win. w = win are you dum?

I'm better or its rigged. Im here now and how I want to play in TA or quickcash is how the whole game has to be balanced

[thick minnow]

sigh I think it's going to be a delay as well. We will get:

"we found a bug in today's patch and won't be able to release it"

Then we will have to wait another month with lights running rampant while they fix the "bug".

[rough herald]

we have a stat tracker, don't know how good it is tho because i only just know of it existent

edit: ok wtf dude? im trying to be helpful here ya dumb fcking narcissist

[proud steppe]

the one that tracks top 10k of ta?

[prime fern]

Make the in game event text smaller or disappear after a while. Don't need ALIEN INVASION on my screen constantly

[steel forge]

There are core-problems with the whole game in terms of weapons and possible combinations, which are too strong and stuff like this should be adressed lol

[floral helm]

It's unfair that someone can just buy a xim and play kmb and mouse on this game but I can't use it which I've been playing on for years yea bro that really makes the game fair

So glad nobody cares tho 😄

[potent solar]

nothing wrong with that, I agree with him. this could be as simple as changing the value of a variable without the need to playtest, easy low-hanging fruit where other things would need budget approved. I agree with you too but little qol improvements add up and they should do them if they're easy. just start knocking stuff out

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller settings !!!!!!

[modern fjord]

Add messaging to friends in the finals itself 🙏

[echo panther]

patch is gonna be delayed?

[rancid dagger]

i need this patch asap🥵

[silent fog]

How long are you going to let the winch and tks be unbalanced?
@plush fjord are you calling me a light main? Light is probably my least played class... It's always the guys with the in game sponsor name man....

[autumn summit]

Come home
See Finals update
Happy
Check patchnotes
Sad

Why is it only a 10% penalty for wiping 😭 That's literally nothing. Hypothetically if an enemy team is at 30k cashed out, a 10% wipe is only going to take 3k off them putting them at 27k.

Its so minuscule that its just may be a random factor which screws you over once every 15 games.

[azure tree]

The bug fixes are great but are we ever going to get a balance patch or is it intended for TA to be in this shitty state it is for the entire season? Just tell us so i dont have to get my hopes up every week

[plush fjord]

light main. try to understand. winch is balanced. lights with evasive dash and grapples are much stronger than sledge and spear heavies. without winches heavies that like meelee playstyle cant reach lights and land hits. winches are ok. stop nerfing heavy and medium weapons only so that u lights can play easily. just try and play with a sledgehammer without winch and ull understand

[vagrant spire]

add mgl32 skis

[mighty cedar]

Embark destroying whats left of their playerbase with ZERO balance changes 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[thick minnow]

I am in utter disbelief. No weapon buffs for M or H. Every mode will continue to be dominated by Lights.

Everyone I brought into The Finals from BF and COD have already left because of this new meta.

Today's patch ensures the same crap will continue. Time to take a long break until this is sorted out.

[nocturne fern]

have you played cashout? i dont thinks thats dominated by lights

[buoyant mural]

ONLY BAD PLAYERS STRUGGLE AGAINST LIGHTS. throwing knives are abit busted but thats about it

[iron junco]

LITERALLY!

With the penalty changes they effectively have removed the ability to clutch in cashout from the game
How is this any fun? How does this help against the "feeling of hopelessness" ? It absolutely contradicts it. If you miss some of the cashouts then you will have 0 chance to clutch the game. Previously you could pull a miraculous wipe on enemy team and still get into the finals with the last cashout

[next trench]

Strongly disagree

[vale acorn]

the lunge does 140, the light is doing a quick melee combo after lunge to follow up

[echo urchin]

I had several last minute wins even with the zero penalty. Going from third to first over the last cashout.

Jfc, y’all are so dramatic.

[oblique olive]

still no fsr 3 :\

[final haven]

bring back 30% team wipe

[untold pendant]

OCE players cannot get games in "The Finals" queue cause not enough people will play

please open the original queues so we can play cashout pls

[cosmic minnow]

YOU cant play the tournament mode once you reach gold 1 hahahaha thats crazy

[polar shell]

soooooooooooooooo many hackers now OMG

[rough herald]

no balance change?????

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[fervent pilot]

no winpoint increase😔

[wicked glade]

Where’s the nerf for the XPs range like this sub has zero downfalls it can just out perform ARs

[merry creek]

Have no idea why they can't scale the penalties so the more cash you have the higher loss you face

[mossy karma]

Melee heavy main here

Winch is completely unbalanced leaving no chance for non-melee H and every M to survive

This trash should be nerfed, reworked or removed (#👂┇game-feedback message), melee Heavies who r skilled enough don't need winch to be useful

Spear is just bad itself but thats the whole other problem

[plain kindle]

small bug discovered

[upper kettle]

failed to join party glitch has returned.

Fkn yay

Embark release an update without completely breaking the game: Impossible.

[stray rampart]

No balance changes for weapons and gadgets? Alright

[fallow idol]

Another pointless patch....

[vale acorn]

As someone who lights more than heavy, they should buff the winch for sure

[crisp oxide]

none gold 1 ppl are awllowed into thje finals :*(

[thick minnow]

ONLY BAD PLAYERS HAVE THIS TAKE. Unless you are in a bot lobby. If so, can you invite me to your bot lobby?

@nocturne fern Yes I tried Cash Out and it's the same issue there. This may be a console only issue as I only play PS5 with crossplay off.

[rough herald]

game is perfectly balance with no notable flaws 👍

[abstract elbow]

It’s unbelievable how poorly optimized this game is. Played some other shooters and MMOs and have no issues 300+ fps and then I open finals and appreciate other games

[plush fjord]

@mossy karma and @vale acorn . look, what im trying to say is that heavies need some thing to counter evasive dashes. see, imagine urself as a sledge heavy, and ur facing a light with eavsive dash and m11. fast fire rate, and hes bringing ur health down fast. u cant reach him. what do u do? exactly. the winch.
btw id love the stun gun to be nerfed

[brittle bloom]

might as well not change a thing if the team wipe penalty is only 10%
it's over

[drowsy vector]

So reaching the top 500 of world tour is useless apparently, got it.

[solemn fulcrum]

Getting pulled by Winch -> getting 200 dmg from sledge -> followed by being finished by a rat 3rd party light with a shotgun. The finals in the nutshell

[smoky gust]

sledge is a beast in close range, being able to run away was a big factor in keeping it balanced
but winch just removes that option

its getting to the point where im just sitting 40 meters away doing nothing because i know im at a major risk of being demolished if i don't

if sledge isn't viable for most people without winch then thats ok
rather have 1 person choose a different fun option than ruin the fun for everyone else on the server

[vale acorn]

I would like to see some class specific mechanics like giving medium an ADS corner lean mechanic but the heavy should get a dive roll that can get him closer to the action on a short cooldown

And well lights? Give us wall jumps or a longer slide. And yes nerf stun gun

[echo urchin]

The winch is fine. Stun gun is fine. Heal beam is fine. Defib and demat are fine.

Lewis needs its recoil fixed, fcar needs recoil fixed or damage increased, m60 needs damage increase. Everything else is fine.

@rough herald what’s the problem?

[fluid raptor]

10% is still not enough penalty + make it, so you recieve the cashout money in increments every 3rd of the completion of extracting the money. That way, just stealing and depoing a vault isn't as strong and actually holding the cashout is rewarded more, while still allowing for worthwhile last second steal clutches.

[grave coral]

why cant we use the new lewis gun animation pack with the lewis roulette skin?

[rough herald]

winch is fine yes

@echo panther ah um cough cough rank

[echo panther]

why does there have to be an extra mode just for sweats now that makes the game frustrating

[vague sorrel]

Well you don't have to play it

[high wing]

the hitbox for melee is so broken

[grizzled cairn]

Omg really embark, in "The Finals" I'm getting matched with players who haven't even reached Gold 1? How am I supposed to reach Emerald if I'm still being matched with random new players?

[quartz torrent]

I am having this same issue also

[tiny spruce]

I think "Stop opponents from stealing cash or decrypting terminals 15 times" is a bit too difficult, and the way this is judged is strange, I suggest changing it to 3 times or deleting the task outright. In this update, I also saw that some players have changed this task, but I personally did not change this task because I completed this task three times, which forced me to continue playing quick cash or tour, but the conditions triggered by this task were really harsh, requiring me to kill the enemy in the process of stealing my money or stop it with vertigo items. Now many teams choose to steal after destroying the enemy team, and sometimes it is really difficult to kill or stun the enemy who steals cash, all of which makes this task extremely difficult. I hope to improve this task, change the decision or reduce to 3 times or replace this task, I think it is best to reduce to 3 times

[jade bloom]

Ya’ll are a bunch of complaining mothertruckers! I’ve literally seen separate rants about how the light is OP, the Medium is OP, and the Heavy is OP. Well guess what? If they’re all OP, then none of them are OP. If there was truly an OP class, then everybody would play that all the time. But guess what? I log into a game, and I get a variety of mixes! Also different people have different playstyles, so just because you’re a god with the winch and sledgehammer does not mean that somebody else will be too. Maybe they suck at melee, but they are incredible at the sniper and dash combo.

TL;DR every single class can’t be OP

[nocturne fern]

why didnt that guy just move out the way?? (someone said this is the counter to winch to me)

[outer jetty]

Matchmaking is weird now, Before the update, It was fine, But now i'm playing with diamonds on my team and other teams, And i'm silver.

Matchmaking is werid now. I hope i'm not the only one.

[quick coyote]

Embark is the laziest studio in the world honestly. Proof is in the winch claw.

[fleet sedge]

No they are not. Embark comes out with updates every week and will release bug fixes one to two days later. They are not lazy.

[raven isle]

Idea for the Final round to change. Split the cashbox in 50/50 (like in the knockout rounds the 70/30 split) when deposited. This would also make a 4th round possible where the team who puts it in the cashout first wins or the cashbox is only 5k and won't split ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯. For the last round maybe also add a special chashout station which only apears when its the last spawned cashbox and is the only on the map at this moment (maybe some kind of elevated platform in the middle of the map)

Just an idea though

[spiral knot]

3.8.0 Update Bug?
World Tour Contract Stage 4 "Get 5 eliminations in one match, 3 times, in World Tour" shows suddenly "incomplete" before it was completed! I don´t know if they changed a contract, so just completed it.
Even after I played again World Tour and completed it, regarding the "tracked contracts" feature (Even after game restart) - Hopefully I don't miss this completed Stage, because after tomorrow it will get locked -.-

[valid cradle]

This was also happening to me. Luckily the spear skin is still in the inventory for it, so that’s good.

[elfin dock]

Nah man 10% penalty thats low

[noble night]

My contract counters keep reseting, anybody got the same problem?

[tired robin]

Yo yo yo, 2 of my contracts reset! I had 3200 damage completed on deal 5000 damage with headshots, and it reset. Also the get 5 eliminations in one match, 3 times, in world tour, that rewards the skin for the spear, i still have the skin tho cause i already completed it.

[velvet olive]

A Rust or Team Fortress 2 Colllab!!!

[smoky gust]

every class is op, and while that results in "balance", they're still op

you can feel it when any class uses what specifically makes them op
the only reason this still somehow works is because the op factors balance each other out
were fighting fire with fire

so sure, rpg can get free kills and medium can just revert that for free
but try playing any of the classes without these factors and you're in for a world of hurt

were just out-cheesing each other which is unsatisfying and unhealthy for the game

[brave copper]

Next UI update should make the scoreboard lay over the current random event title. Currently you can't see the stats of the players near the top of the list if there's an event running.

[rose snow]

This

[zenith hazel]

servers down?

[fast moat]

omg i hate that lol i thought maybe it was just because of my game resolution or something

[quick coyote]

Nerf the fuckin bunny hopping knives for the love of god why is there 0 accuracy drop off while jumping are you insane embark. If a weapon is only viable through bunny hopping around then its a bad design. 90% of this game is horribly designed dude. Fire everybody.

[rare stump]

we need saison 1 ost it was really good and miles better than the current ost

[willow reef]

What about the servers? After the first round, nothing simply happened and showed the tournament bracket, after which it simply quit the game without the possibility of reconnection

[viral quiver]

End of season 2 to now knifes have been an issue I stopped playing bro I only come back to discord for the patch notes to see if they fixed it yet only thing actually fixed and it took well over half the season was the staircase in Kyoto which is well in the season 😐

[humble violet]

• Add killcam!

[lime lichen]

same, and i doubt anything will get fixed till season 4

[crisp oxide]

Everyone knows u can play the finals not gold 1 for emerald today right

[scenic tree]

Please make fillup groups language based... we dont want to play with russians who only speaks russian... 0 teamplay 0 fun...

[rough herald]

balance team is slacking

@deep mantle if that ever happen i would like it be in a test sever

[deep mantle]

I think we should experiment with making cash outs give you money over time, and then a burst at the very end also. I think this would help make third partying less valuable, but still viable.

[dusky solar]

Gimme dash buff

[thorn elbow]

I am officially asking that World Tour players catch a BREAK from Kyoto in the new rotation coming out tomorrow.

Enough is enough give me a break with that dog aaaaa map

[crystal umbra]

So, I'm gold 2.

For those of us who are still working towards gold 1 are we locked out of emerald progression?

Or, can we all join the party late by getting to gold 1 now and Begin to work through emerald?

"Is emerald progression exclusive to players who have gotten to gold 1 before today?"

[sacred inlet]

Please add snowy weather to all maps! A deep snow mechanic would be super cool as well!

[turbid citrus]

It would be very counter intuitive to lock it out for the rest of the season tbh @crystal umbra

[mystic briar]

Request:
Kindly award atleast 0.5 points for reaching the final round and 1 for winning, because losing in the final round is uhhh..... not great

[wispy viper]

10% team wipe is nothing. Before if you lost the first 2 cashouts you had a chance if teams got wiped and you stole the last one. Now that's barely possible. Barely going to lose any money. Experiment putting it back to 30% with all the other changes.

[sacred siren]

It's also really counterintuitive to replace WT ranking system with a time counter that everyone hated instead of tweaking an elo based one that most people were ok with. But it seems embark isn't really being intuitive this season, so I wouldn't be surprised.

[stone nimbus]

why did you buff the evasive dash now you can open doors with it like it wasn't op enough and doors were one of the only methods to slow them down. I can write and entire essay about the issues with riot shield as a matter of fact I did and it still has not seen any changes and has game ruining bugs but dash the only thing in this game that doesn't need a buff gets a buff.

[queen shale]

dont worry. they are aware of riot shield bugs

😂

[minor nebula]

agreed, would be nice if those 10% would go to the team that did the elimination

[teal oxide]

Truly the lack of a need to press E before getting through a door is a massive buff to Lights that will make them spiral out of control even further

[vale acorn]

Give mediums ADS lean aiming, heavies a tactical dodge roll and wall jumps for lights

[nimble anvil]

"Get 5 eliminations in one match, 3 times, in World Tour" does not seem to be tracking at all ... my abilities are all bugged in game again ... can only shoot my gun

[patent edge]

when model nerf? still dumb op

[warm compass]

embark : quick cash terminal meter so fast and you respawn is so far u have only one chance to steal it and this remove the intensity of the match

[next mortar]

I used to say THE FINALS reminded me of the good ol days of gaming - It was simple and authentically FUN

but dude...

World Tour in it's current state and Terminal Attack are NOT THE FINALS...

850 hours on this game I just cannot find the motivation to play it.

Not because of burnout, not because i got more busy, but because the game has left me behind. Seriously this is not THE FINALS I played in Season 1 and Season 2. There's no ranked mode, there's no more casual tournaments, there's no more 48 player tournaments, and terminal attack is an insult of a mode.

I just miss THE FINALS man... Embark where is our favorite game and gamemode?

I'm fine with the overall content and balance of the game, but man, how on Earth can you just remove the primary game mode many of us fell in love with? World Tour has 0 stakes so moments dont feel as intense and the reward for grinding isnt there either! There's still no reward for skilled players! Only those who play ABSURD hours and after todays patch, increasing points per win, you're directly invalidating the hours Gold players have put in to the mode.

Also I know not many are saying it here,
The World Tour changes have been fun for casuals, but they make the mode even less competitive than it was before

This game is just completely unrecognizable to me now. And it's genuinely got me down... I wish we had OG Ranked Cashout Back
Or maybe we could get a casual mode for 48 player cashout tournament? Alright Im done ranting. Love everyone.

I just want my favorite game back

[gleaming tide]

Add variable zoom to the sniper so it can compete with the bow.

[zealous hare]

Please change how you rank up in emerald. Only gaining points for winning a tournament is unmotivating when you can get all the way up to the final round and see no progress at all if you don't win

[smoky gust]

i love this game but sometimes i have to ask myself, why even bother?

if you're trying to fight you will likely be rpg'd and just loose without contest due to the 140hp difference
that is, they they aren't running winch+melee and just deleting you outright
and if you do get to kill someone, defib can just reverse that with little you can do against it

you're often fighting an uphill battle, and if you do manage to still win and feel like youre at the top of the world
some guy instantly reverts it again and puts you (and your mood) 6 feet under

its incredibly disheartening and just kills any desire to play another round

[drifting pawn]

I'm glad we're getting back in the right direction with the wipe penalty. I feel 10% isn't enough (only lose $3k if you have $30k) but it's a start. 20% seems like the real sweet spot to me (lose $6k if you have $30k, dropping you to $24k)

[mossy karma]

Yeah, i get your point :)
But i believe slam and goo gun are good enough options to deal with Lights, even with those of them who use dash

I personally don't find it that difficult to kill them

Winch = guaranteed easy damage while slam and goo gun can be easily countered and not that versatile / require more skill to use

[mossy wave]

Thoughts on this?

Individual performance awards for WT Lobby.

At the end of the match they showcase who did most damage, support, and objective.

Most damage + X win points
Most support + X win points
Most objective + X win points

I’ll let y’all decide how much win points is the right amount but I think this would be cool and help solo queuers feel better when they drop 10k damage 4k support 3k objective but their team did not help!

[rare stump]

why does finals matchmaking suck a lot im gold 1 keep playing with bronze and unranked wtf we need a fix

[dreamy cradle]

I’m currently 34k plat and have 2 low silvers and 2 low gold vs all plat team

[peak moss]

Let’s fix yalls matchmaking algorithm. World tour im gold 4 and it’s always bronze or unranked people…why on earth is this still unfixed?

[versed sorrel]

Ranked was taken away from cash out because of complaints about balance of the ranked system and will return in Season 4.

[undone spindle]

Any good gyro settings out there??

[rugged cloud]

Still not received dissun dual blades despite participating in community challenge?

[oblique spindle]

Cause its not sbmm
A bad player can reach gold by just skating by the first round a ton of times

[crystal umbra]

I love my devs.

Thank you for adding XP bonus for playing in a party!

[strange heart]

was there any change to the WT matchmaking? rank & level difference is huge in some games

[merry creek]

Return crossplay to console only lobbies

[rough herald]

balance change where

[cobalt stirrup]

@pearl kiln For the new flamethrower skin, I feel like yall could’ve made it actual water instead of fire, but it still had the same affects as “fire” but instead it would be “wetness” or something idk

Also please release a CL-40 skin that is a T-Shirt Launcher :((( I’m begging

[devout fox]

Please rework damage falloff for cl-40 I’m barely doing any damage 😕

[flat solstice]

I really like the changes you made in WT regarding the color scheme to fit the sponsor of the event! Please continue to do this! 🙂

[vale acorn]

It does feel underpowered

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller !!!!!!

[smoky gust]

We really need balance changes soon
It doesnt need to be perfect, but should at least see it being worked on

Its getting exhausting

[drowsy vector]

Being in top 500 should have been beneficial in getting Emerald. Now being in the WT leaderboard does absolutely nothing. I’ve grinded lots to get there, but now have to grind all over again (presumably 40 wins) to get to Emerald 1. Winning is not the issue, just that I HAVE to do it in order to get it. Outside of that I have a great time this season. Just expected the top 500 to be beneficial or rewarding in any way

[twin hatch]

Make emerald 3v3, world tour should’ve been pure tournament but with every new cup you can unlock a little charm or som, and emerald the 3v3 rank

[warm compass]

bringback c4 damge bring back nuke make the game more fun to play bring back 100% visibility for clocking seasson 1 best fun seasson

[coarse harbor]

😢

[pastel mirage]

Make crossplay onlu between controller mk it's fucking illegal

[deep summit]

It was high risk high reward, it was very easy to insta kill a nuke holder, couple shots and they insta die. So it was pretty balanced. Shoot the nuke holder before he throws, and if its in the air, you can still blow it up before it reaches you.

[thick bramble]

The new flamethrower skin (the nerf gun) is broken. It does not do any of the custom animations in game.

[patent wind]

i’d just like to say: yall cooked with the bugfixes. Although a bit disappointed that the finals mode wasnt a new mode just a different button lol?

[graceful snow]

on SYS horizon you cant climb from floor to floor. Why cant we even do that with low gravtiy on?

[silent fog]

no way did you just call the nuke pretty balanced LMAO

[woven hawk]

doors were nothing to me anyways, much easier than windows actually. maybe it helps different control schemes

[sacred cypress]

Thanks for bringing back Wipe Penalty and the XP Boost when partying with friends also, thanks for the kyoto stairs, shit costed me a lot of digital lifes

[vale acorn]

slap two teams of 5 together for one big 10 man in a 10v10 big battle

[swift shuttle]

disappointed none of the new lewis gun animations are compatible with the s1 roulette skin (especially the empty reload one); I feel like that should've been advertised in the store bundle page :/

[drifting pawn]

Feature idea: let secondary fire on the flamethrower either spray out gasoline (lay a trail and set a trap) or smoke (just like a smoke grenade, but you can make a trail of it through hallways/across clearings), which would last about just as long as a smoke grenade or maybe slightly less

[spark shard]

What happens with all the tournaments I have won while already being in S3 Gold? Why don’t they count retroactively towards getting Emerald?

[hollow kernel]

Pls make the red map design optional i cant play serious anymore after this update 😦

[latent niche]

I love this game and was happy to see an update-- but the no bow or throwing knife nerfs is preventing me from playing.
I am a light main and I won't use them because they're too cheap and way too OP-- and that's how you know they need to be nerfed.
**Please please please please nerf throwing knives and bow, **drastically reducing their projectile size or speed.
Either that or reduce medium and heavy recoil drastically so they have an actual chance against us.
-Bow has zero counterplay, at least when I get sniped I can hear the shot and lens flare, but bow is just death out of nowhere, by someone you couldn't hear or see. That is NOT FUN for anyone.
Possibly causing a slowdown when throwing the knives and drawing the bow? Lights are way too fast with them.
also- if you can try and change the throwing knife animation because it looks a little janky with them windmill arms flailing about.

[regal salmon]

Wouldn't be able to set fire to plants and goo if so.

[clear hemlock]

You should try bow to see how cheap and OP it is and come back with your thoughts.

[ebon gust]

Has anyone noticed the insane amount of third parties since the big rule change last patch? I mean its just third party after third party, you never have that time after wiping one squad to re-set up before the next squad comes. Any defensive items become "spam immediately" with no thought because there is no time to think.

Third parties at cash boxes are rampantent because there is so much inscentive to be the first to place them in, which now means one of the cash outs gets delayed by a massive margin, and makes third parties much easier when the first cash out finishes.

The 1st place team will just third party for fun because there is no reason not to (even with the 10% cash loss, it is not nearly enough). I think third parties would go down if the 30% cash loss was brought back.

I usually wouldn't say anything but in this most recent patch I saw them saying they were getting "a lot of positive feedback", but I have only heard negative feedback. So maybe they need more constructive criticism. A full revert would not work out! But same rules with maybe a 30% cash loss on team wipe would do wonders at making 1st places teams think twice before third partying and bullying the teams that really need the cashout.

[runic gull]

everybody use akm and xp-54. nerf please

[topaz barn]

Gold/Diamond/Ruby/Emerald weapon skins should be selectable.

There are currently 27 weapons in the Finals. In order to get every upcoming skin in their respective ranks you will need to play 27 seasons, about 8 years to get them all, and the one skin you want might not even roll around for a long while.

You wnat a diamond AK? Unless its changed youre going to be waiting 8+ years for that to roll around again if it stays in its current state.

To differentiate them, just have the date on the side of the gun changed based on the respective season it was acquired.

[fossil crane]

I don't know how this happened, but it happened.
21.064 points.

[broken geyser]

Pls reduce the Lewis gun recoil or revert it'd changes. Given its new skin and animation it's only fair.

[graceful snow]

Lewis Gun feels like a nerfgun with an own will to not hit enemies

[velvet olive]

@quick coyote Please send my regards. I LOVE ANIMATION PACKS ❤️❤️❤️❤️ ANOTHER W FOR THE BEST GAMING STUDIO!

[crystal umbra]

Thanks for adding XP boosts to the game for playing in a party.

I appreciate it but let's not be a half measure.

I understand creating a whole new system with features around playing in a company would be hard and long

But would it be possible to go a lil harder and add contracts that are based around playing in a party or with friends?

I'm suggesting this but not knowing if it's even possible to track something like being in a party (I guess so because other games have done it)

Requesting additional contracts & XP boost incentives for cooperative play

Examples:
-Win a Tournament with a full party
-Play "game mode" with 2 other party members x amount of times
-Play "game mode" with a friend x amount of times
-Assist your friend with 25 kills
-Assist someone in your party with 50 kills
-Say "hello" to your friend in game
-Revive your friends 25 times
Etc.

UNRELATED
@topaz barn I think it would cool if we could have a higher limit on VRS and we use it to select which gold & platinum weapons we want using the VRS that has been collecting dust.

I almost said diamond, emerald, and ruby but I think those guns should be left for the top spot.

But yes, it would be cool if there was some kind of token system allowed each season to players who earned them that they can select their preferred special gun. Would be fun.

Do you want to immediately have a emerald season 4 weapon? Well, use the token.

Do you wanna have a diamond R93? Use the token

Ruby sledge hammer? Use token.

Basically all weapons have their jewl skin but are locked and only unlockable via gameplay - reaching the nessicary rank to aquire the "jewl token" so you can get your emerald hammer for example. . .

[cinder folio]

I honestly don't see anyone using the orange barrel (the flammable one). I find you need to lay a whole mag down just to make it explode. I don't see a lot of player making use of the orange barrel because it's too high risk to throw it at a player and shoot at it to make it explode. I think the time to make it explode should be reduced for sure.

[stone nimbus]

⬆️

[minor notch]

i just qm + throw it into gas.

orange barrel is not good for killing but good for flaming doorways and getting rid of gas

[silent fog]

again no tk or winch nerf... what are you even doing

[patent girder]

I agree also buff revolver because the spin animation pack is dope

[warm compass]

buff aim assist god dam it

[patent wind]

bow does not need a nerf lol. It has a 1.5 headshot multiplier while sniper has 2x. The arrows are very difficult to hit PLUS you have to charge them. It is not affective at range whatsoever so you basically have to play a close range sniper which is incredibly difficult.

[spark shard]

Indeed!!!!

I suggested to have a "special store" or something like that months ago, just to let the players decide what to buy/pick based on what you can collect at the end of the season based on your ranking (ranked, world tour...) or whatever.

[steel cloak]

great update but in world tour with 30% for putting in vault the 10% wipe lose is just not enough still 2 much money for every team bc they just started 2 cashout

[ebon gust]

Agreed! Mayeb swap it, 20% for putting in, and 30% taken away when team wipe

[lapis basin]

HEALING BEAM NOT WORKING IN “THE FINALS”?!?!!? What the fuck!!!!!!

[merry loom]

A few things:

1. Not having swim-ware cosmetics when you have a supersoker flame thrower is a crime, also give us a water balloon grenade skin.
2. We need a water ballon fight limited event
3. Would love to see an in game shooting range competition (olympics style)

[quick coyote]

10% team wipe now

[wind meteor]

Suggestion:

Cash Out team wipe rule modification.

P.S.: Glad for the comeback of the penalty, but I think it can be done in a more fun and interesting way. So I'm putting my suggestion again.

Modification:

Gradually increasing team wipe penalty percentage.
Ex: 1st team wipe, no penalty, 2nd team wipe, 5% penalty, 3rd team wipe, 10%, ... up to a max of 25% penalty on team wipes.

Therefore, the first team wipes are very forgiving, but getting team wiped repeatedly pushes the team into a more careful gameplay.

Also, since further into the round there is more at stakes, with higher amounts and higher percentages, team respawn time can be used to offset those increasing penalties, by means of faster team respawn (or even personal respawn) towards the end of the match, increasing the gaming pace then.

Other Ways of Modification:

• The peanlty can be, instead, gradually decreasing with team wipes, being 25% on the first team wipe, and becoming free with the sixth team wipe. Since at first, teams wouldn't have gathered a lot, the 25% won't affect them as much, unless they got team wiped for the first time towards the end of the match => more strategic gameplay.

• Team wipes can be tracked across the knock out rounds in a tournament. Hence teams that have gotten team wiped in the first round, will suffer more in the second knock out.

• A treshhold instead of a gradual penalty percentage increase. Ex: first 3 team wipes, no penalty, then 2 team wipes on 15%, then 30% on later team wipes.

Conclusion:

Possibilities are endless, each leading to a more strategic gameplay, and a mix between aggressive and safe approaches. Nonetheless, team wipe penalties are a must to prevent deathmach like gaming.

[muted quartz]

i think the finals is super fun but i wish there could be a save game option so i can save my good games too show my friends and watch

[proven ibex]

KYOTO became unplayable after the patch, grenades sticking to hands, frames getting stuck mid match and not able to move or do anything for few secs

[night mulch]

buff the fcar

[raw skiff]

I was coming to say the same thing. THiiXY said the same in his patch video and because he showed you can't use the animations with the roulette skin, I am no going to buy the animations :/

[celest tree]

gateway can't be tossed for some reason sometimes. like it goes out of your hand but doesn't deploy the gateway. this happened to me before this update as well

[patent wind]

true. this bug happens when you throw the first gateway close, and the second far a lot.

if you want to avoid it, just throw the first tp to where you want to go and the second at your feet. its a lot more consistent.

[topaz acorn]

bring solo bank it back to private matches!! either that or allow better control over team selection placement in private matches, i want to 1v1v1v1 my friends and i cant thanks to this

[wheat dock]

I recommend this video to developers as a suitable accessory for clothing design and other functions!
I recommend this video to developers as a suitable accessory for clothing design and other functions!

https://youtu.be/X5vvuHnmqTM?si=TA9g5abT12Ho-12g

[errant python]

10% wipes is nothing, go up to 20% and it will be in a good state

[quick coyote]

Add Assist Kills

[warm compass]

embark : buff aim assist 10%

[latent niche]

I am TELLING you that bow needs a nerf. It is SOUNDLESS, you can fully charge your arrows in less than it takes someone to reload and it's not fair. I am playing bow rn dominating and im telling you it's OP. I am making plays that should be heavily punished AND WOULD BE IF ID PLAYED ANY OTHER WEAPON

[thorny pilot]

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, FIX THE BUG THAT MAKES HTE GAME UNPLAYABLE IF YOU DIE AFTER GETTING WINCHED. You literally cant use specialization and your movement is broken when this happens. It's been here since release and its idiotic that it hasnt been fixed yet

[olive fulcrum]

I LOVE THIS CHANGE FOR WORLD TOUR EMERALD PROGRESSION!!!

Thanks Embark. Now the sweatlords among us can have a real challenge to work toward.

[signal elm]

Been getting teammates for WT finals that are bronze and silver 1, isn't it supposed to be gold 1 only?

[merry totem]

Just popping in to say that I notice more and more frequently the last couple weeks thinking, "Wow, this game got to a nice place." Far from 100% of the time, and no doubt there is a big chunk of the player base probably thinking the opposite, but just wanted to express my appreciation for what I'm experiencing as discernible improvement. Still hoping this game finds longer-term success.

[tall kernel]

30 for team wipe is to much, I think 10 or 15 is perfect

[analog hearth]

#game-announcements
"To clarify: graduating to THE FINALS means a new set of rewards accompanied by stricter point-gain rules, you will now only gain win points by winning the entire tournament. But the World Tour mode you'll be playing is the same. "
I don't really understand why I should do this? I win a tournament once every 30-50 attempts, which means that I won't earn any more points after gold1. At least I won one round and earned 5 points, and that gave me some consolation. And I knew that if I played a lot, I would reach a higher rank. But now what's the point of fighting for emerald rank if it's now impossible for me to reach it?

I also don't really understand for what penalty for a team wipe? if there is a team in the tournament that kills the entire map, and you have wipe after wipe your team, then you won't be able to win by luck like before. What's the point of continuing to play until the end of the round? It's very annoying.
Why make such decisions? Do you want to make an interesting game for the widest possible range of people, or exclusively for cyber athletes? ok then you can make spiders in a jar that a casual like me wouldn't want to be in

[astral viper]

Y'all, you gotta do something about the sniper bodyshot damage. I'm a big fan of Powershift and they're so oppressive that I just don't want to play the game at all anymore.

[boreal quarry]

I would really appreciate it if First Fray Doodles went on the legs as well.

[signal basin]

Can you do something about ranked TA ?
I can have ONE SINGLE GAME with all my team ranked. I'm always with unraked people and then I go down and up in the silver 1 without any possibility to go higher. Got the double of kill and objectives compare to my other teammate. You MMR is trash, do something about that.

And do something about your netcode too. I'm still getting kill behind cover 1/4 time

[zealous rune]

"Stop opponents from stealing cash or decrypting terminals 5 times" is extremely difficult. Also not all players play Cash out or Terminal attack. What about players of Bank it and Power shift? Please change it to something else.

[distant fossil]

tried emerald and i think losing 10% being back is a huge mistake bc of the 3rd party problem. it just encourages that shit again and rat teams can just wait to punish you twice for free after you wipe a challenging team. we still made it to the finals but only with very clutch plays. it feels extra bad that the cashout you just protected for the entirety of time it was up gets stolen while your healing from a team you just wiped during the last 7 secs by a completely fresh team. AND NOW YOU LOSE 10% too you get hit twice without being rewarded for the good defense. you cant bring back losing 10% without buffing defending cashout bonuses bc of the amount of teams who would rather wait to take the easier kills and 3rd party you edit:this problem is enhanced for being going for emerald ranked and are gold 1 already bc of the amount of new player and lack of ranking in wt during matchmaking

[elfin karma]

I was a dedicated player since open beta, I made the "Gaming's greatest sword" video, I quit in season 3, here's why:

big ol' in-depth design critique, thought I'd finally put my money where my mouth is.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m9GFV6Ppukp9xIXhcqpvJl51az7lby-R2t6VtuIG0qk/edit?usp=sharing

[prisma pebble]

I agree match making be a bit meh.. I always play randoms and get squadded with newbies 🤣

[young hamlet]

Bring wipes up to a 20% loss and I'll buy another skin Embark

[bitter aspen]

there really isnt i win buttons in titanfall 2, if you say the titans im going to laugh

[shell raven]

it is absurd that we have gone this long without any weapon balancing changes. much less any changes that significantly impact gameplay. and while i understand that a large portion of the team was on vacation, this wasn't a good state to leave the game in during that time period, and the fact that they had enough capabilities to change and test new mechanics for one of the most popular modes in thsi game leads me to believe that they should have had the capability to do at least some substantial changes to improve the state of the game. people have been complaining about throwing knives and sledgehamemer for months, and next to nothing has been done to fix it. i love this game, and very much want it to suceed and do well, but i cant justify putting my time and money into this game while its in this state.

[marble prawn]

whenever i try and play cashout or ranked my team always leaves as soon as another team gets ahead idk what changed really but i remember that didnt happen before ... and also it was easier to catch up before

[latent niche]

@marble prawn If you were in my last game of TA like a min ago I crashed out. Yet another UE5 crash got me on the brink. I have tried so much ;n;

[lapis basin]

Can we get world tour rank emblems on scoreboards please?

[topaz barn]

Exactly. There are some weapons that got some diamond skins during the betas (i think they were sledgehammer, AK and m11) so they were unobtanium for anybody that didnt get entry back then

[crystal umbra]

Heavies get brass knuckles primary weapon

Code Name: "Beaters"

-Speed boost passive
-Comparable fire rate to spear. slightly faster?
-2 Piece a light
-3 Piece a medium
-4 Piece + buiscut for heavirs
-Lungeing punch secondary (big burst damage after smol wind up)
-heavy environmental damage

Imagine:
Heavy + speed boost + lunging punch = 1 shot a light

• Mesh shield specialization
• Done shield gadget
• General Additional speed for having brass knuckles equipped

Obvious trade-off: Ya can't shoot bullets but you are a tank on nitro.

+ Skin option: Boxing gloves

[hearty talon]

Is there any way we could choose which tracks we want to hear in the lobby and such? I really miss S1 OST, and this would get us more hyped to play again with my friends. I really think that style of music was perfect at setting the tone for the game.

[eternal kayak]

Remove wench claw please. It takes absolutely no skill whatsoever and it’s too much of an opportunity created just because a person can hit a single shot. Every cashout is close range please remove this it is worse than nukes. Heavies do not lack that much mobility that they need a wench claw. It’s being abused as players will rpg, wench claw then melee you and it all happens before you can react even if you dodge the rpg. Please remove this please. A player should not be rewarded a free kill just because they can hit a single shot meanwhile a medium has to hit 18 shots consecutively while controlling recoil and utilizing movement it is simply not fair.

[cedar tangle]

when is ranked finals back ?

[digital shoal]

#game-announcements message

Mixed feelings here. On one side, I'm glad I can still play with my friends who aren't Gold 1 and still make progress toward Emerald. But....

If Emerald isn't an exclusive queue, you've just nullified all the WT work people have done since achieving Gold 1 however long ago. I feel kinda short changed here. In fact, looking back, it seems that even as an exclusive queue, you are effectively just holding players back on advancing their world tour rank until you opened up emerald.

Now, I don't have a whole lot of wins since I made Gold 1, but I'm sure you have hundred/thousands who do. You should back pay your community for the work they put into WT while you held off on Emerald.

[daring fossil]

so I had 6/6 of stage 4 of the world tour contracts and today when I logged in I only have 5/6 done

[normal mauve]

plase. fix. the. lewis. recoil.

[distant fossil]

100% this am really shocked they went this route after locking it for half the season. what was the fucking point embark. this is just LAZY, hotfix a ranked wt that reflects what was expected of emerald why even grind for gold1 then get some fucking vision

[remote citrus]

Team wipe bonus should be back to 30%, remove the 30% cash submisison.
I can open a box and get 1k + get 30% for placing a box, then switch to a closer to finsihed cashout and not defend what I have.
Its nice that there is a better incentive to place the cashbox in, but now teams just wait at the cashout to steal the box from you. In theory this sounds good ,but this is just defending the cash box which the game used to incentize more. Its just easier to steal the box or steal after after the box carrier/box blocker teams kill eachother making the third partying problem worse.

I'd rather have it be costly to die, and I gotta stick to my point

[tall kernel]

This world tour emerald grind solo queuing is tough. People want to use their mics to complain after we all wipe instead of using it during the push to communicate…🙄

[honest verge]

The World Tour grind is atrocious and to me it feels like its intended to milk the player base for playtime. I enjoyed grinding to diamond last season, even if I lost I potentially still progressed or didn't lose points based on my own performance. Now matches feel like I am paired with new players sometimes. Or the alternative which is solo queueing into a 3 stack of high ranked streamers. It doesn't help that you're limiting an already small map pool and I don't like Kyoto as much as the other maps. I won't even consider TA ranked because I doubt I will get into Emerald with my play time.

[high wing]

srsly get the f out with this f insanely stupid repawn system

[regal salmon]

It's everyone

[boreal quarry]

We should delete Vegas sandstorm

[signal basin]

My christmas list (before christmas please) :

• more balance between class
• nerf all explosion dmg but double the ammo. Their is no fun to play against RPG / Grenade launcher
• Vegas has to change
• Low gravity should be delete
• Add a indicator on explosive grenade
  - Improve the netcode
  - Improve the MMR

[pseudo surge]

world tour is too grindy I'm gold 3 and man it feels like I am making no progress do to how the points are set up and the fact that I want to play both TA and world tour for the rewards it is very very grindy I have 500hrs played since S1 I miss S1

[distant fossil]

server connection time out error now happening after patch in middle of wt games your game needs some milk

[daring fossil]

I've noticed this happens in WT a lot

[quick coyote]

Love the UE5 crashes that take actual minutes to crash.

[brittle perch]

nerf the xp 54

[normal mauve]

😤😤

[patent girder]

I second this. It’s ridiculous that I can’t do a private match with my friends where we’re all on separate teams. You’d think if you had 3 players and you did quick cash you would have one player on each team but no? Why not? Very sad!

Either split the teams evenly or let us pick teams in private matches please 🙏

[rustic moth]

The objective "Stop opponents from stealing cash or decrypting terminals 15 times" seems nearly impossible to achieve because it relies heavily on the other player actively interacting with bank while you're dealing damage to them. All other quest objectives are great for me, good job.

Players leaving matches are really frustrating. especially at the beginning or 1 round

i love that game have no pay to win at all

sometimes i want to play after work but dont want to let down my team (even in casual) it would be nice to have something to do solo

better comunicate how xp and points are granted, i want to grind last levels of battlepass but feel like i am loosing time in power shift (maybe rotating 1,x bonus on non ranked gamemodes would be solution for example week 1 QC in week 3 PS ectr.)

ps. im new player 31h in game, played a little on launch

PPS to conversation
-you can 1v1 just make teams as u want tham and send each team game code (game needs to comunicate it better i guess)
thx @silent fog for sugestion i will grind for stun than ❤️ its still going to be hard for non skilled player like me
and @shell raven i heard that it was urban legend and debunked on reddit not sure tho

k stun works but its still bad af

[prisma pebble]

Then it’s a nightmare waiting for them to fully leave the game after they already disconnected, so you don’t get penalised for leaving, suckkkks! 💜

[deep summit]

Day 244 of asking for Skill Based Match Making and an Anti Cheat that can detect DMA

[regal salmon]

It might be mode dependent. I've only played the Emerald WT queue so far. But it's 100% intentional, and not a glitch.

Are your friends on different platforms? It might be one hasn't got that part of the update yet.

[distant sluice]

I have the game in the background. I am not even in a game. I am IN THE LOBBY. I am just USING CHROME. HOW IS THE GAME CRASHING AND BLUE SCREENING MY COMPUTER WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS CODE.

[silent fog]

Stun guns counts, makes it a lot easier

@shell raven I have no idea, didn't even know that was a bug lol

[unreal hollow]

Yeap I'm having also that issue.

[shell raven]

do you still have to be the one to insert the cashbox or did they fix that bug

[gilded hull]

nerf the model

[twilit bramble]

My world tour mission for the skin of the spear reset even though I already cleared it a long while ago and I have the skin equipped.
Has it only happened to me??

[loud gust]

day one of asking to nerf the xp-54 into the ground

[boreal quarry]

Yeah if my teammate leaves I should be able to leave without penalty.

[celest moss]

Use sniper on light for the stopping.
Easy headshots combined with the fact that it's always one shot as of my experience.

[eternal valley]

Did matchmaking just become infinitely worse? All I get is new players on my team, or if not, I end up alone from the 5th second in. And here I was, thinking that Emerald is for Gold 1 players, and that it meant it would be played between G1s. But... yeah, no, it's a mixed bag full of inadequate players.

[fleet trellis]

New skin + map :

Centre of Paris (with Eiffel tower destructible) and Arc de triumph (destructible) as a second map + Napoleon and Marie Antoinette skin for players + Guillotine as a skin for winch claw

[runic robin]

Just bring the team wipe penalty back to 30% 🥹

[jagged cedar]

jacking up the chances of getting the new map every season and never taking it out of rotation for wt is a really good way to burn people out and make them hate the map. Kyoto was pretty awesome at the start of the season but now it's just boring

[willow reef]

A 10% penalty still doesn’t affect anything, as if it doesn’t exist, a team with 40k will lose only 4. Do more so that by teamwiping your opponent you can take his position in the list

[young smelt]

It should be 25%

[daring fossil]

"The rule changes we tested during the VOLPE Championship seem to have had positive results both with the community and in the analytics data we’ve been looking at"

Are we reading the same feedback?

[shy swan]

10% TEAM WIPE IS GARBAGE DO %20

[twilit torrent]

guys guys calm down they fixed the staircases on kyoto the map is playable now

[keen lily]

why are there still elevator cashouts, remove this shit from the game already, nobody likes it

[viral prism]

Just got a 30 min ban because my game bugged and when I joined back the match cancelled What do I do there 😧

[tulip basin]

Some clipping issues I really wish were fixed plz ty <333

#🔥┇drip-check message

[crystal umbra]

Lmafo EMBARK PLEASE‼️‼️

The more I think about people bringing brass knuckles to a gunfight is the more I laugh.

Imagine if we could make brass knuckels meta in a shooter game🤣🤣🤣

This is such a fun idea 🙏🏾🤣😭

[sharp briar]

Remove stun gun. It makes enemy melee useless.

[jagged cedar]

new cashout changes are perfect

[sonic spoke]

wow... no Throwing Knife nerf... wow
@sharp briar Or remove any stun effect the second you take damage.

[solar plover]

Nerf flame thrower please as a medium even i try to run from it i didn't able to do it.

[umbral lark]

How i love playing on low ranks, 80% matches witch wall hacks cheaters and ppl shoting me from whole map with pistol when im on invisiblity ❤️ keep it up guys dont change anything just throw anticheat to the bin

[vale acorn]

What if orange barrels had massive knockback opposed to red barrels having a missile like function to distinguish the two and their uses

[past forge]

Dang, I've read that around and thought it was just me. I'm getting players like that and saying to go around open vaults instead of capturing 😐😐😐

[velvet inlet]

You had one job embark! SWIMSUITS! Pls for both body types 🙏

[fast cave]

I can not play for months, because one day after an update i was not able to start the game, it was always stuck at install script. When trying to uninstall through steam i had to manually delete the install folder to be able to uninstall, after reinstalling again stuck at install script. When trying workarounds posted on the www wich was able to skip the install scipt it gave a crash with dump before reinstalling. After reinstalling, same workaround does not bring me to a crash anymore, not even EAC is starting. Can not uninstall through steam or windows, not possible, verifying install files does nothing but maybe installing some steamworks stuff again after trying to uninstall.

I love this game (and also invested some $$$) but as of now i do not see a possibility to repair the game or EAC again (tried what i was able to find for the latter aswell)

has anyone an idea maybe? besides wiping the windows and game partition and reinstall? 😦

as of now it feels like i am stuck with a broken installation forever
PMs or pings are appreciated

[unkempt bane]

https://youtu.be/2XHvQvCNqMA?feature=shared

[twilit torrent]

Why do so many people think the model is so overpowered? I get that it's ttk is the fastest of all medium weapons, but there are much more overpowered gadgets and specializations. For example, RPG is incredibly easy to use but provides so much value, and getting winched is basically a death sentence. The model has been basically untouched since it's addition, and just because fcar is somewhat competitively unviable, NOW people say to nerf it? Yet I never hear people complain about overpowered gadgets and stuff like the RPG, all I see in this channel is people saying "nerf model range pls"? Also, the model is probably the hardest gun to master in the game; nerfing it's range would just make it harder for new players to pick up the gun. Can someone please for the love of god explain why everyone is saying to nerf this gun? Especially when the AKM (and FCAR in the right hands) are still competitively viable?

[earnest sierra]

please if u can add game replay and match history, this would be crucial and huge step in content creation, raw gameplay without hud is way way better to make clips and highlights and clean edit and this will make the game more recognizable, i hope this comes with S4 as i really need to make edits for my games clips but it's just not clean and sometimes the footage get corrupted and lots of problems happen

this game have very cinematic feeling when the turning off the hud, this will be a real improvement for the game if content creators was able to have it while they can play at a good level because no hud means no info and no one can play good to make clips like that

[warm quest]

@devs, any logical reason why can't we use the new lewis anims with the mini roulette skin? this skin was the reason i bought the animation set...
there should've been a mention of this incompatibly when buying the anim set

[tacit dock]

Just read patch notes and there is none? Because they made no balances or changes to anything in the game? What is the point anymore? Are they trying to kill the game? Who lobotomized the dev team this is insane

[molten trail]

last time i played the game was s3 launch. played again and the amount of people that rage quit world tour instantly into the first game is insane. there needs to be a punishment.

[near oyster]

tbh just wipe 100% of a teams money on team wipe. keep the gamers on their toes.

[brittle perch]

nerf xp 54 - ur stupid redo

[loud gust]

nerf xp 54 /no redo

[sour orchid]

you’re stupid (also plz nerf xp54)

[austere vector]

Man I want my coins back , bought the new Lewis animations and they don’t even work for the mini roulette , bogus asf

[south sorrel]

massive L for anyone who grinded to g1 before today if you guys were just going to make it easier the day you launch emerald.

[latent meteor]

pls buff winch claw

[glacial knot]

To all cheaters , world tour only when you win you get points, this help the devs to filter players to verify there stats, because mostly on the finals round cheaters start raging the cheats. I wish to all cheaters good luck next ban wave . And to the legit players please the slighst suspicion dont hesitate to report. We need to help the devs to clean the game from thoese virus

[winter vapor]

you guys put me in games nonstop that are 90% over,

Yet when i have a team member ragequit, whether its 1-4, you RARELY give me another teamate even when its not even 20% into the game.

WTF is wrong with your balancing system? its pathetic

[brisk wren]

After 1 week of not playing becaus of the 3.6 update i will give it a try.... hope its makes fun again...

[scenic vapor]

Is there anything I can do about an hour ban for quitting WT when my teammate had already quit?

[neon moon]

I can’t play right now and it’s not letting me download the update?

[tacit dock]

Looking at the overall player count falling on its face and seeing NO balance changes this update is really telling of where the dev team is at and where the future of the game is going to continue going. Was fun while it lasted.

[crystal umbra]

I think nukes should be added back to the game.

Not specifically because I liked nukes but because of what they represented.

The finals was fun, fresh, "different" for lack of a better word.

Nukes were a creative way to get that dopamine from a kill.

As a light main, I even got to use the evasive dash as a way to extend my throws and make them effectively more accurate.

After my throw I had 2 more dashes for repositioning or escape so I could finish off my weakened targets.

I used the breach charge in a what key way that meshed with my evasive dash

Let me say that a different way:
I used my mobility ability (evasive dash) with an item intended for stationary strategy (breach charge) to secure satisfying kills.

This was so creative.

And the more I think about it is the more I get convinced that that kind of thing is the life blood of the finals.

We already have so many tools, and we also have dope ass interactions to go with them to create infinite play styles and litterally tinker with.

It felt like having a 3D leggo set to play with.

I just hope we get more of that. I hope we get the same level of creativity in the future like how we did with nukes.

I think it's important.

[bronze pumice]

CAN WE PLEASE GET A BETTER CROSSHAIR? one of my biggest complaints is not being able to have an accurate crosshair. Just adding an option to stop it from wobbling would go a long way.

[jagged cedar]

I actually think I like having fun so no thank you

[twilit torrent]

worst take of the century 🔥

no but seriously i also think the finals is becoming too much like other shooter games

just don't bring back nukes

[molten trail]

hell no to nukes. so tired of insta kill 0 skill things

[rose nacelle]

I really wish we got some RS back from playing against cheaters.

[south viper]

Throwing knives need a stamina system ASAP

[flat solstice]

Suggestion for a Nerf-esque skin bundle: Revolver, SA1216, XP-54/M11

[cedar jolt]

Nerf Lights XP-54 and Throwing Knives, XP-54 should not have better effective range, recoil and optics than assault rifles and TK need a reload.

[burnt sedge]

The LH1 has some weird damage delay that I’ve been noticing it might be lag but it’s a bit odd and I feel like getting it out there

[minor notch]

i thought i just had bad internet 😭

[charred seal]

I agree its like just spamming unlimited ammo once the opponent runs out of ammo its gg. Throwing knives really need a cool down or someting its way broken.

[winged crypt]

1000% Almost every game I play in high plat with ruby involves a cheater. Unplayable now...

[loud gust]

13th Night — Today at 6:44 PM
Nerf Lights XP-54 and Throwing Knives, XP-54 should not have better effective range, recoil and optics than assault rifles and TK need a reload.

[brittle perch]

13th Night — Today at 6:44 PM
Nerf Lights XP-54 and Throwing Knives, XP-54 should not have better effective range, recoil and optics than assault rifles and TK need a reload.

[sour orchid]

13th Night — Today at 6:44 PM
Nerf Lights XP-54 and Throwing Knives, XP-54 should not have better effective range, recoil and optics than assault rifles and TK need a reload.

[molten trail]

holy fk plz remove low gravity literally no one likes it

[olive fulcrum]

If Flamethrower Super Soaker spit blue flame, i'd buy it.

[wet wasp]

could you guys add a paint ball skin that shoots actual paint and leaves paint marks and a bowling pin katana would also be cool!!!

[regal apex]

Lewis animations need to work on the roulette skin 🙏

[hollow barn]

This!. 👆

[lapis basin]

Buff AK omg it’s so underpowered what the actual fuck !!??

[shy token]

Please add double gravity too

Muy fun

[wet compass]

@pearl kiln @golden musk Hi.. Since i am game developer too. Its not hard for this game to make that emerald rank point float to interger from your code. I am giving 30 mins of my life and i dont get anything from it. So it make no sense to giving so much hours to this world tour. I hope you understand and please if you have any openings in designers in your team let me know why you guys sink this ship which is already struggling.

[sweet dawn]

add emojis to the text chat in next battle pass

[austere vector]

Find a way to get rid of the cheaters because god damn they make this game hard to enjoy

[hushed trellis]

I didn't like going up against nukes personally, but I agree with this guy's overall sentiment: More creative ways to take on engagements.

You got tools from your kit and tools from your environment that you piece together to create a new tool that's going to help you in some way.

[crystal umbra]

Speaking of ✨"new ways to play"✨:

Heavies get brass knuckles primary weapon

Code Name: "Beaters"

-Speed boost passive
-Comparable fire rate to spear. slightly faster?
-2 Piece a light
-3 Piece a medium
-4 Piece + buiscut for heavies
-Lunging punch secondary (big burst damage after smol wind up)
-heavy environmental damage

Imagine:
Heavy Health Pool + Speed Boost + Lunging Punch = 1 shot a light

• Mesh shield specialization
• Dome shield gadget
• General Additional speed for having brass knuckles equipped

= Fun

[shy sphinx]

Not everything's gonna give you a participation trophy, kid. Work hard and succeed, or you're gonna fail, just like life Nobody's gonna bail you out and give you free points Just for trying

[deep summit]

Day 245 of asking for Skill Based Match Making and an Anti Cheat that can detect DMA

[south mauve]

i just tried to boot the finals (world tour) for the first time and i got stuck on this thing; only thing i could do was look at social menus but couldnt back out to lobby

[drowsy vector]

The amount of wins needed for emerald is, excuse my language, batshit crazy with only 49 days left. I believe it’s like 75 wins? That’s a hell of a grind. I can do it, but def not happy with it

[charred seal]

@pearl kiln @golden musk I kinda agree with his point I mean playing World tour for Emerald for half an hour then losing the Final round kinda sucks cuz u get nothing from it. Not everyone can play the game all day some people have jobs too @shy sphinx and other stuff atleast you can get a 0.5 for reaching the Finals or something plus the Emerald event kinda launched late in the season its like 49 days left had it been from the start then the current system wouldve been really nice. I too am Gold 1 and grinding for Emerald I did reach The finals a few times today but sometimes my teammate disconnected or my game crashed and the other time my teammate was'nt that great. I'm just saying this cause its pretty late in the season not much time left plus everyone can't play games all day if they are a streamer or a professional player then its another story and most players are solo queing. Cuz we are giving half an hour of our life to a tournament and losing the last stage and getting nothing sucks. Its not a souls game.

[serene cedar]

no point gain on getting to the finals is pretty demoralizing, 1 point for reaching the finals and 2 for winning seems much better. The last round is usually the single most one sided part of the tournament, which can easily be decided on what team comp has what outright counters the other, which is just a roll of the dice on who picks what

[marsh thistle]

Emerald is definitely too grindy to launch this late in the season like this. Need partial credit for reaching the final round or numbers need adjusted.

[tame crag]

There are 49 days remaining but I agree it’s very grindy.

I think it could have easily just been 1st place match wins instead of having to win ten 30 minute matches to get the first rank.

[quick coyote]

Yeah the grind is wild. I didn't really play WT the first 2 circuits because I'm a masochist and really forced myself to play ranked. But I finally gave up on that horrendous experience and I put up 4.1m the last circuit.. which puts me just over into G3.. I don't know if I'll get to Emerald at all in 49 days

[wispy vault]

why do I spawn right next to a cashout now? closest was literally 15m away

[hallow grove]

anyone have a strategy as a medium when a heavy RPG does 140 then u get grabbed and set on fire?

[signal root]

Can we get a world tour stop without Kyoto please

[midnight aurora]

please make body paint apply to the crash test dummies head

[sonic salmon]

yeah makes sense had to exit the game cuz i was getting the error code tfge0001 code re laucnh get back into the game i was in with a starter loadout and then complete the game and get a nice suppension fucking bull shit

[compact lynx]

Please announce twitch drops in game. I keep missing them :L

[patent wind]

the charge time on bow is about the same as snipers bolt. BUT it has a bullet drop, velocity, a smaller crit multiplier, and falloff (i think). there is no reason to play bow

[quick coyote]

I have an idea. How about make the RPG and Defib Specializations and buff the hell out of em. Might be a bad idea in this current balance of the game but it would definitely make people's kits more diverse. I feel those staple gadgets limit the variety at the end of the day. Maybe an idea to entertain.

[arctic delta]

I had 6/6 Stage 4, now this update happens and I'm at 5/6 and it's locked. Anything we can do about that?

[molten trail]

glitch still in the game u cant shoot oh my lord 😂

[pastel cypress]

Teammates love to eat my bullets and getting revived on a slightly bright map like looking out to the ocean on sys horizon flash bangs you for for 4 seconds

[tame crag]

I really think that RPG should have a rebalance. It’s a very strong gadget that can nearly one shot the light class, and gives a massive advantage in any other fight.

[azure wasp]

This. May not even play this week because they can’t figure out how to balance anything in this game

[icy rune]

Does anybody else have issues with Terminal Attack when they unfairly match you up with higher ranks when you’re lower?

[plucky vessel]

Being forced to play power shift for challenges sucks. The mode is a rat fest imo

[dense tinsel]

Unplayable due to the amount of cheaters in the game. If they don't do something, the whole game will die. It's really unbearable to come across people who don't even aim at you but still hit their shots. Dubious angles, they see you from anywhere and hit you. You can't play like this.

[azure wasp]

Let’s buff the light even more, they are only the most deadly class in the game with every weapon they have, I think they need more honestly let’s let them one shot heavies too while we’re at it. I’ve been trying my best to look at the bright side because I love this game and want it to succeed but you guys got to figure out how to balance stuff in this game.

[shy sphinx]

I'm a working corporate IT professional adult. I understand limited time and it does not invalidate my original comments.
Not everyone is meant to get emerald. Even if you're good, that's why it's the top top rank.

[lapis basin]

Buff spear please. Its garbage weak

[pseudo relic]

Agreed, I can imagine it being tired something to use the exact same meta weapon Over and Over can be boring, I think the worst part is that Embark try to change "Cash Out". Even with Update 3.7.0 with re-adding teamwipe into the game by only 10%, it still feels like nothing, honestly embark should have just left cash out the way it was.

Cash out was such a fun and unique game mode. Where it had the right amount of Skill, Chaos, Risk and Reward. To make the whole game experience fun, but competitive.

Now thanks to all the changes they did to cash out it motivates cheaters to just win because there's not enough chaos in the game. Because Embark wants to prevent third party which isn't the worst thing in ever in fact I say it's a good thing, because it makes you better as a player to be prepared for third party. Embarked literally has two game modes that has 0 third party so why would they want to try to get rid of it on cash out is what I don't understand, honestly it frustrates me on why they change cash out so much. The changes they did is honestly unbelievable it motivates hackers to like win because Cash Out became more of a kill game instead of it having its own identity.

Honestly Embark L on this one for both this update and this season

[cosmic ether]

It doesn't, it leaves them with about 10 health if theyre not already depleted. It doesn't do enough damage if you ask me. Should be rebuffed to 240 :^)

[glass fable]

Three Words: Player Customized Outfits

[glacial knot]

Light is one shot by the mines by the rpg , doesnt resist damage and doesnt resist fire, and this stupid devs nerf it every update. Heavy has rpg and medium has turret and this fling devs always nerf lighht. If people are dumb to play against light doesnt mean that light is op

[agile jacinth]

Completely agree, I’m G3 too after trying to grind but pretty burnt out now, way too many wins required, full of braindead MMH dog walker + chain winch meta squads or hackers plus OCE literally doesn’t have the players to even get a tournament unless it’s the weekend

[kind swallow]

Pressing Enter makes the screen resolution change from full screen to windowed!

Also

Reduce respawn times if we are down a teammate!!

also

Flash bang should work on turrets!

[woeful path]

are you joking?

[ashen ibex]

same here. just says world tour "completed" and can't join anything...

[topaz ledge]

rant about the game:

feels terrible, many situations where I can die a "bs" death, ie. rpg slam, winch sledge, stun melted, or just jumped by a random team appearing out of nowhere. it doesn't matter if I get kills or if my team top frags, we could still lose because of some random team running a wacky setup. the biggest takeaway I get from this game, other than the broken bits of it like balancing and performance issues, is that the game doesn't reward skill as much as it should. some mechanical things that show this are the constant changes to guns and weapons in order to cater to a casual fanbase, and even things like the headshot multi being too low to incentivize true headshot focus. the game seems to push this idea of teamwork or lose. in a fair gunfight, trades are basically guaranteed if teammates are around. it doesn't matter if I use 100% of my skill trying to isolate 1v1's and win aim duels, if it is a 3 stack of mediums with healbeams, i die right after at half health because his teammate was there around the corner, with a healbeam and ak in hand. the game just doesn't seem like it has the potential to become truly competitive in the sense that individual skill can't win a 1v3. luck, chance, and random advantages dictate gunfights in encounters of two or more teams.

[fathom escarp]

What is everyone's thoughts on making it so team wipes give you something like 6-10% of a teams max points as a reward. The team being wiped doesn't lose anything extra but the team getting the wipe earns a portion of their current points.
An example being; if Purple team wipes Orange team (Orange has 10k points) then Purple team earns somewhere between 600 and 1000 points. (If using my 6-10% example)

[slender oasis]

If someone rejoins a match, repeal any abandon match bans. This is fucking stupid a 30 minute fucking ban my ass when I rejoined and I tried my best.

[raw bay]

10% decrease for a wipe is nothing they might as well have not even brought it back what a joke

[pseudo relic]

Wow Embark you did such a great job with this update 3.7.0, btw I was completely sarcastic, this update is trash, it doesn't fix the issue with Cash Out. My main issue is that 10% is not enough, now Cash Out essentially became who Could Touch the cash out two times faster than anyone else. The worst part about it is that whoever's on top they stay on top which means if your in The Knockout Zone or 3rd or 4th place in the last 3 minutes or so, there's almost no comeback for you at all compared to what cash out was back then, So you might as well just quit the game.

Guys you got to admit Embark trying to remove third party from Cash Out sounds like a great idea, despite Ohh I don't know that Embark LITERALLY has TWO GAME MODES that has 0 third party which is "Power Shifting" "Terminal Attack".

The worst part throughout this season we have been getting nothing but a nothing Burger because the weapons we got were made the map was good but bad at the same time still felt like like a nothing Burger with just some new mechanics I guess like World Tour but even then season 2 is definitely peak season 3 just garbage

[thorn kelp]

Cosmetic team at Embark needs a raise 🙌 👏

[feral shell]

Imagine the cashouts mattering in cashout 🤯

[molten trail]

rpg 140 dmg 🤡 0 skill req 🤡

[flat solstice]

luv the game back the fact you havent taken seoul out of competitive matches is actually ridonk (ridiculous) its been 3 seasons and we all know the bridge is a free cachout

[dry kiln]

Bring back teamwipes in bank it

[signal willow]

nerf throwing knives for god sake, the joke was good for one week but now it's just annoying and even frustating how you pull up to a light and they just start moving around spamming their shit with dash and if it's not dash they just go invisible and run away as soon as you get to hit a bullet on them.

can we get to see the playercard of our teammates at the START of the matches and not at the END, so i can just leave and look for other match with people with at least some similar level, i swear playing with lvl 12 teammates when everyone else on the match is 40+ is boring as a casual player, either add that or just fix your useless matchmaking system!

Also can yall add a music theme selector, season 1 music was peak 👍

[shadow stirrup]

Suggestion #1) Put out updates that actually do things to improve the game (haven't seen one of those since season 2)
Suggestion #2) Put out a public statement that hacking is allowed, if its gonna be as rampant as it is

[twin hatch]

Add 3v3

[upbeat ore]

The grind really missed the mark this season. TA is unfun and unpopular, making diamond unappealing. On the flip-side, emerald is a brain melting time investment. So you have ruby and emerald for a very few high-level jobless players, where last season Diamond was achievable for most dedicated players and quite enjoyable.

[steady flame]

can we get outfit slots

[twilit torrent]

guys imma be honest I don't think the devs give the slightest shit abt this channel. The last midseason balance patch was in season 2, showing that they don't care about what their players think and are ok with just letting the game die

[mortal notch]

Suggestion 3) make the visual recoil even worse and make your own 3rd party crosshair since you are already basically promoting 3rd party crosshairs with this shit

[pseudo latch]

Day 136 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[tiny shell]

Suggestion - hoping all the melee weapons can actually Deflect or parry other melee weapons (except guns) so it could give off a fascination or exciting duel, where as the spear vs sword, or hammer vs dual sword, the parry or block if two melee weapons face each other it drains stamina on each parry or block for 25 points or 15 points, giving it a balance advantage, other than just running or hit and run melee (except for knife of course they can back stab and run lol they are gremlins to be honest but fun) if two melee face off in a space they give a cinematic fight scene lolol- i guess its complicated to program this, but if you add this, it will be a new fresh mechanic skill gap for melee users, this will bring all chivalry 2 and mordhua players together in finals Suggestion 2 - if adding that kind of a mechanic, add medieval maps or london maps lolol (bad grammar sorry)

[sharp cove]

why in the absolute hell does the stun gun stop cashout steal????
WORST gaming design decision 2024 no capacitor

[barren sail]

Never let bro cook again

[raw bay]

This games balance is a joke if the devs are done with trying to make the game good I'd like to know so I can actually give up and aren't living on false hope they actually care about their game

[unkempt bane]

Dead game Lets goooo

[mortal notch]

Day 3001839 of asking for a balanced game

:Fix visual recoil and wobbly sights
:fix balancing and where your getting data from who tf asked for the lh1 buff/explosion change rpg buff dash nerf etc
:give rpg 3 charges and make it do 50dmg each with the same recharge time
:fix game plz

[lapis basin]

Show world tour rank in match scoreboards please

[gilded hull]

nerf the model

[last sorrel]

can WE PLS MAKE THE GRENADE LAUNCHER GO THROUGH/BLOW UP FLOORS

[abstract kiln]

there aren't any players on console playing terminal attack, the playing terminal attack challenge cannot be completed

[night vortex]

They’re going to say you’re dumb and they shouldn’t listen to the casual player base even though this would be fun. Every shooter has to be super cereal elite competition shooter these days.

[bitter aspen]

i dont know how can they justify that its cheating when the crosshair are not even working

[eager ivy]

has light been nerfed or other classes buffed yet?

[kind swallow]

because the person has been tasered? makes sense to me

[unique lotus]

Hey, i have a quick addition for the game that could be hella awesome.

for weapon skins and outfits, can you add a preview option to see the weapons or skins in the practice range before buying them?

so the contestants have a feeling of how they are and if they like it

[midnight aurora]

Why does every single light ranged weapon outrange and out damage and has better hipfire than the revolver

never press reply so idk why it turned into one

[agile jacinth]

XP smg having better recoil at range than the FCAR makes sense

[nimble gale]

winch claw shouldn't go through mesh shield

[olive fulcrum]

the point of emerald is exclusivity.
It's a way for Embark to throw a bone to the 'serious' ranked players that got shafted by this season's ranked mode being absolutely horrible.

[patent wind]

emerald is fine imo. You have plenty of time as well only have to win like 2-3 a day

[shrewd oriole]

purple cosmetics. I don't think I've seen or noticed much purple. pretty pls

[analog hearth]

I hope you're joking?

[hollow barn]

Fix the spawns pls. Half of a year with nosense spawns.

[fleet socket]

I support this message

[quick coyote]

The balance team needs to be able to distinct between what is overpowered and what isn't, so should the players. I see people asking for sledgehammer nerfs, this was never the case before till winch was introduced for god knows why. It makes sledge easier than ever, and nerfing sledge instead of dealing with winch that is in an absurd spot would be stupid.

Same case with dash and throwing knives. TKs are obnoxiously braindead for how much damage they can deal, yet dash was nerfed despite being widely known to be a good, and well balanced spec.

[eternal lava]

Getting infinite loading screen

[rancid cloud]

I missed out on collecting all of the Volpe Championship cosmetics because they were locked behind a shitty, demoralizing game mode. Please refrain from doing that again.

[queen widget]

crashed 4 times in a single game of world tour, managed to rejoin but still got a 30 min suspension. Thanks

[tepid ether]

i cannot chat anymore in game i reinstalled the game and the issue still remains

[analog hearth]

lol. it's a game, and a game shouldn't hit you in the face and show how hard life is. Games are made for fun.

[molten trail]

i love walking around corners and insta dying to mines. i clearly just got outplayed 🤡

[fallow sedge]

Servers still feel terrible, goo is not sticking to peoples feet, sometimes not even firing, grabbing things when running sometimes it grabs and drops instantly or lags then lets go, stuttering is still a big thing, This has been on 2 different pcs 2 different locations 50 miles from one another

[lilac flare]

ABSOLUTE TRASH anti cheaat. you guys say u updated your anti cheat but then yo uhave cheaters with walls, shooting through shields, and hitting all headshots. JUST iP BAN THEM

[jagged cradle]

Not trying to down you here but that's the only advantage a mine has and it's a well placed mine if it got you that way... It's a good gadget to control areas but beyond that, it can be countered or taken out too easily --- you don't see much mines in high elo games

@molten trail a well placed mine is one where people least expect it or will rush into. Chances are alot of Braindead players might accidentally place them in great spots. 😁

Great spots are walls you will hug, covers you will rush to... Near ceilings where players might attempt "the jump into the room surprise tactic"...

It's true you can't check every corner but the moment I hear the mine beeps... I'm trying my best not rushing into any room 😅, if not I'm probably walking into one. and yes, you don't see them much in high ELO games because it's a one trick pony gadget and yes, there are other gadgets better for team play strategies

[night vortex]

I wish there was some counter play in maybe a trap tool or something to disarm mines

[brisk garden]

somehow this game is more of 3rd party fest than before. RE: u got data for that bro? im just saying it feels the same or worse

[jagged cedar]

amount of third parties havent changed, these changes have done nothing to incentivize third parties

[clever marlin]

give us a freeze ray or a GAS GUN

[odd cedar]

freeze ray sounds aids, but i would totally mess with freeze barrels to like, stop you from opening doors, or to make things easy to shatter

[tepid ether]

can you guys chat in game ???

[jagged cradle]

As a M data reshaper is too good against mines and other devices, as a H you have RPG - a little down on luck if meele - as a L you got plenty of arsenal

[livid tiger]

i am so tired of kyoto please theres 5 maps in the pool and i get it 3 times in a row

[molten trail]

not sure how its a well placed mine when people just braindead throw it on random corners but I guess? Plz tell me how to counter mines when you cant even see them and dont tell me to check "eEeRy CoRneR 🤓 " You most likely dont see it too much in high elo games cuz theres other gadgets that are overall just better and im assuming its very rare to run into lights you can get insta kill deaths on.

[quick coyote]

you made cashout fucking useless its a team game but no one is LFG for cashout leave your main gamemode as ranked. you had a unquie game and the one thing you can do to fuck it up you managed to do

[crystal umbra]

Alright, let's talk about a feature that I think the sweaties will love:

🔥🔥 "Leaderboard Shout-Outs": Day 1🔥🔥
I don't actually know what to call it but it will make more sense soon

TLDR:
-This is a suggested "feature".
-Leaderboard names are now selectable.
-Upon selecting a name you see text displayed.
-The displayed text is Usernames for their social media or streaming platforms.
-All contestants fill out a prompt (and can change it as needed).
-The "profiles" are only visible upon reaching top 500.
-Effectively giving top 500 players a shout-out.
-Thus giving people more reason to compete for the top 500 spot, more content creators possibly wanting to play, more people interested in The Finals content.
All completely voluntary

Let's imagine a world where being able to boot up The Finals and scroll through the LEADERBOARD with all of the top 500 ranked players, top 500 world tour players, or the top 500 "finalists". There I can select any of them and I open some sort of "profile".

In the future that profile will have things like a background, a contestant model showing how the (profile owner) is currently wearing his cosmetics. But (one of) the most important parts of that profile will be the display names.

Each of us, will have a prompt where we can voluntarily share our Twitch, our YouTube gaming, and whatever other handles to have them displayed for viewers - like me and you - to go and watch them play the finals or to watch their clips.

Only the top 500 players will be able to display this. What does that mean? Players seeking glory (clout) will be on a daily grind either trying to reach the top spot or to maintain it.

This - in my opinion - could create a positive feedback loop. A mixture of competition, a real world benefit, & content creators getting having even more reason to play The Finals.
Major W 🔥

It fits the theme so well. It's not hard to implement since it's just displaying text (until you guys decide to go all in on this idea and add a whole sick ass display screen with player models and backgrounds).

Instead of pretending you are a contestant displaying your skills for your fans. The Finals & Embark will finally promote the most skillful & loyal contestants.

Completely open to criticism on this one guys🙏🏾

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

@cold bolt ^twin

[tired ibex]

nerf tk

[stark notch]

people get instant 30% cash by putting it in and can run over to the other cashout to 3rd party for farming kills since its now $500. the fact there (was) no penalty for wipes means you can play more risky to 3rd party and I believe the 10% penalty is not enough either.

either way, the dev's 'goal' was to help against 3rd partying and it did not solve this issue and I personally think it made it worse

[bitter aspen]

you should be the creative lead for a fps

[night vortex]

I didn’t even think of data reshaper on it. Thank you.

[thorn kelp]

Don't really ask for nerfs all that much, but tbh I think Heal Beam's rate of healing in my opinion needs to be toned down. In High Elo, all you ever see is Heal Beam just for the fact that it's the only form of healing in the game with the fact you can stack multiple Mediums running the same specialization. Now I'm not asking for a complete gutter to Heal Beam's rate of healing as I think it's a key tool in Medium's kit. I'm just tired of fighting meta loadouts that have this ability equipped. Call it a skill issue, but if I can heal a Heavy at half HP to full and a Medium at half HP to full at the same time and not be in cooldown right after is a lil disappointing. Sorry for rant, have a nice day

[jagged cedar]

third partying has always been safer than taking a 3v3 and has never really been considered risky, the only change in regards to that has been that the teams being third partied are punished nearly as severely. Plugging vaults also just helps against third parties because you are punished less for getting your shit stolen last second by the team that just spawned. A team plugging and moving to a different cashout to third party has always been optimal play, the recent changes have changed nothing about this. Farming kills is also not viable enough to win games, you have to get cashouts to win, the kill bonus just helps better teams who are wiping the lobby

The recent changes have had little effect on third partying, being third partied is just now much less punishing
I find myself getting griefed out of games or disqualifying because of third parties much rarer now

[twin hatch]

add 3v3

[fickle oracle]

10％team wiped punishment is too low. It seems useless.

[crisp heart]

pls change sniper. it is extremely unfun to play against, especially in TA

[jagged cradle]

Welcome buddy! If you aren't using jump pads and Zipline to help with movement for your team, data reshaper is a GOD SEND against mines, turrets, barricades and let's say you want to prep your area for defense, you can change all random items into throwable that you could probably use too.

I use, (heal/turret) with data reshaper + glitch trap + defib for tournament/serious support plays when my team build requires a M

[lament depot]

STOP FUCKING MAKING ME DEAL DAMAGE WITH MARKSMAN RIFLES OR HANDGUNS

[distant maple]

The one I want gone is the "Damage from 50m away" Kinda invites its own hell in certain gamemodes

[crystal umbra]

Thanks bro, that would be nice 🤞🏾

[lapis basin]

Can mediums get some sort of slowing down speed stun grenade? 2 melee weapons with medium would add a new layer to the game

[olive fulcrum]

World Tour Leaderboard = Who Has The Most No Life

[trail turret]

why tf isn't the emerald grind it's own lobby???! as a solo queue silver I am facing 3 stack gold 1 and emerald players circle jerking eachother! wth am I supposed to do against that? This would be like preds in apex going up against plats ( at best). it is ridiculously punishing and demoralizing. why should I even bother if this is all I have to look forward to?

[quick coyote]

Some transparency would be nice. You guys have done virtualy nothing to balance the game and it’s only getting worse. Some transparency regarding decisions and upcoming updates would be nice

[night vortex]

It would be nice if the heavy had some pistols and/or marksman rifle to do these challenges with. Double deagles would be fun.

[burnt notch]

V9s is a good gun idk what ur talking about bout 0-o

[jagged cradle]

I agree that 3rd party issue still hasn't been resolved. I do support the cash box deposit reward, the kill reward because they encourage the core game mechanics however, the 3rd party option is still better if you just want to win.

One way to resolve this is incentivizing players to spend time or be present + active near objectives (attacking+defending) like a proximity cash rewards that is earned overtime for actual time being spent defending or attacking the objective (yes, has to be for both)....

This would cause the 3rd party team to lose out on potential cash(maybe 30%) earned who is lurking and waiting for the two teams to finish and each other. --- but such a system would need careful consideration because the proximity can't be too big or small as it will greatly affect how the game is played.

We need a strategy that ENCOURAGES players to be active around objectives to eliminate the Meta 3rd party strategy, which encourages lurking and checking scoreboard to see which teams are fighting and weak having exhausted health and gadgets.

@night vortex I think a double deagle would be fantastic for HEAVY

[bitter aspen]

"In High Elo, all you ever see is Heal Beam just for the fact that it's the only form of healing in the game..."

thats the exact reason whats wrong with this game, all classes should have a support item that is similar to that function (at least with the light class), we shouldnt be nerfing the team aspect of this game but getting new equipment and figuring out new strats while using other classes

[molten trail]

Get a team going? Ur also playing at dead hours, which means only the demons are online.

[twilit torrent]

I have a pretty high end gpu and kyoto runs at like 130 fps where other maps run at around 170-200 fps in power shift on low settings. If it was a good map and had bad perfomance, I'd be ok with it, but it isnt. I agree FSR 3.1 is miles better than FSR 2. Also the current implementation of FSR leaves a lot of ghosting and whatnot and generally makes the game look bad, so they should probably fix that as well.

[mossy karma]

Really love your idea!

[crystal umbra]

My idea loves you bro!

[cold bolt]

give leaderboards a toggle view to show cards instead in like a grid, if you are in the leaderboard you can set which of your characters show up

@trail turret as much as I'd love for this game to match stacks like overwatch does rn, it's not pheasible

there are not enough players, period. You can't make ruby 5 stacks (losers) have 30min queue times or they'll have even more ppl leaving the game than already have

[trail turret]

I’ll let my boss know I need time off work for grinding the finals.
And what if I want to play solo? I should just be punished? Even if I did have a team, what if they can’t or don’t want to play? I should just be punished? I hate that games reward people for 3 stacking a circle jerking.

[fallow widget]

Please add keyboard and mouse support for console please for the love of God we really need it well I really need it because using precision weapons with a controller is really difficult and also keyboard and mouse doesn't get stick drift it's also really hard to keep up with keyboard and mouse players and we play with them anyways so why not just add it so please devs if you look at this please I'm begging you add support for keyboard and mouse that is all

[potent solar]

solo q ing in emerald wt having to carry bronzes and silvers is one of the worst experiences I've had in gaming.. this is awful

[upbeat urchin]

please rework the final round of tournaments, it's super annoying to wait 20 sec to respawn then have to walk another 20 sec to walk to the objective because you spawn min 100m away, then you have to fight super fast otherwise you have 0 hope of taking the box. basically if you defend for 2 fights you win it. not fun for the defending team that has to wait more than fight. Also nerf throwing knives damage that is a no brainer. Finally when are we going to have a post match recap ???

[rough herald]

im still but hurt about yet another patch with no balance change
still too early for me to say anything about the new cashout rework tho

[crystal umbra]

Friend system, party system, & lobbies are all way too bland and underdeveloped for a team game like the finals tbh.

I understand the game was "shipped as is" but I think it's time to revamp the community aspects of The Finals.

-Bug fixes for recent players
-Bug fixes for adding friends
-Contracts focused on getting us to play together
-Revamp parties
-Spectate friends mid match?
Etc

[oblique olive]

fsr 3 soon?

[charred seal]

The thing is we are investing 30 minutes into a match and sometimes in the final round you may encounter a cheater or your teammate disconnects(which happened to me in the Final round yesterday and we lost because of it which was frustrating as hell) or some shit happens which makes all that effort a waste and you get nothing and Emerald launching this late in the season makes it worse had it been from the start like Ruby it would make sense to win the Finals but now with less time and plus limited hours it becomes a frustrating grind unless your job is only playing games all day and all the people on the top belong to that category for Emerald. The grind for Emerald should be hard I'm not saying that but atleast reaching the FInals should give atleast 50% points otherwise this becomes a souls game and even if you are good at the game becomes frustrating with limited time. Plus people have been grinding for Gold 1 to go emerald like me with limited hours a day for video games all season till now just to a bit dissappointed as the new rank opens up this late with such high demands to rank up, which is a bit unfair to us.

[dull hemlock]

Bug fixes.
Bug fixes.
Bug fixes.
Another round ruined by gamebreaking bugs like not being able to pick up carryables. Not to mention being blinded by the riot shield visual bug. Not to mention still getting hit reg issues with melee. Another round has my friend unable to use any gadgets at all besides his RPG while being unable to revive.

Current World Tour ruleset is not good. 10% wipe penalty is a slap on the wrist. $500 cash on kills is way too much. It's insane to see the mode that all of closed beta and S1/2 refining get turned into the mess it is. This isn't experimenting, this is killing the mode. Unless the goal is just to turn it into a fancier kill focused game where teams just prioritize kills over objectives on the whole, because that's what's happening. None of the rule changes needed to happen. The mode needs:

Spawn fixes. Somehow spawns are still terrible even after a year+. The new spawns on the maps at the start are maybe very slightly better but still imbalanced and do nothing to fix the major issues which is mid round spawns. Plus the fact that the game still rewards you for delaying putting a cash box in because the spawn logic doesn't check for where boxes are.

The game genuinely isn't fun to play right now if you're someone who enjoyed the game for being a unique take on FPS/objective gameplay.

EDIT: Oh and giving us a Terminal Attack contract? Why.

[reef perch]

On my AK the roses camo flickers on and off (being back to classic og black skin) while running - super annoying and distracting and has been like this for 2 months now. Impossible to concentrate when you have a camo glitching on and off your guns all game

[grim patrol]

new placeable gadget for medium and or heavy. Shotgun tripwire. placed like you would a barricade or turret.

directs a laser out a certain distance, when tripped will fire spraying pellets out over an area, like a normal mine still most effective at close ranges, but at longer ranges the spread means less pellets hit one target, possibly allowing for hitting multiple targets at lower damage. The tradeoff for the additional range being the bright visible laser. if destroyed does not fire.

The advantage of taking this would be that you can place it on far walls where there's doorways, the enemy will be unable to peek to destroy it without hitting the laser and activating it. To balance this is should do less damage than an explosive mine if all pellets hit.

[violet elbow]

the spawns not checking for boxes and only for Vaults/Cashouts is genuinely a GIGANTIC ISSUE and it needs to be fixed, the fact that you are forced to sync cashouts (something the game never explains) in order to not get 3rd partied is insane.

@wheat fractal sorry for the Ping but I really think this is something that needs to be brought to the team's attention, we need spawns that spawn you near active boxes that are being ran to a cashout, and not only near unopened Vaults or cashouts.

also I think another issue is cashout spawns, a cashout shouldnt spawn within 100-150m of another cashout when there is several potential cashouts that could be 200+ meters from each other.

[civic orchid]

fantastic to do the 9000 damage mission with lh1 or handsguns seeing the game that gives it to you and then going to the circuit and seeing it again at 0 canceled the mission for me, but I wonder who programs this game like a monkey to make such trivial mistakes months after launch, I add, the damage mission with explosives was also reset, which was at 2500, and the kill mission, my goodness, what a monkey, but fire these programmers and get some good ones, it's disgusting.

[pine quarry]

The Amount of Wins needed for Emerald 1 is too much for just 49 Days left this Season.

[rough herald]

what really? ^^

[craggy nova]

I’m getting 3rd party so much that I’m not able to win a single round.

[potent solar]

played 5 emerald wt tourneys, 3 of the 5 to the final round, winning 1, the other 2 out 2nd round. each game I kindly coached < gold teammates on how to do basic movement tech and strats (as needed), with each of the 4 losses coming from critical (innocent) mistakes or them simply 'knowing better'. whatever they play in casual doesn't prepare them for actual cashout tournaments. they don't know how to strategize to win, they play way way WAY too slow.

things like dropping the vault 30m from the cashout to prioritize a slow res "because its always better than defib" only to lose the deposit bonus to chasing teams (and the game). they're not aware of positioning or timing. 2 hrs of repetitive patience for just 1 win, starting again from zero each re-queue. I understand where a lot of the quickplay complaints come from because they are not aware of how to play or their teammates really are actual garbage, both in skill level and toxicity.

I'm all for new players and don't blame them if they try their best, but most of these nerf this and that complaints are because they simply don't understand how to play as they've never stepped outside of quickcash. Big disconnect, simple go-to positioning would help. some in-game tips / mantras like 'how bout we take height' or 'heal your heavy!' ( loading screen propaganda).

Sorry to rant but I'm going to chew through all my belts if I have to keep this up

[charred seal]

The Finals became a souls like game bro with this Emerald grind in just 49 days(now 48)

[ionic grail]

Not gonna lie, how the fuck are you gonna lock an entire rank behind a mid season event, give people like what 6 weeks to grind to Gold 1 and then not make it a Gold 1 only pool.

I’d rather wait longer to get actual games with actual people.

I’d rather Emerald queue be a queue of players all actively trying to grind emerald as opposed to playing against silver bricks.

Quit appealing to casuals and actually make a competitive fucking ranked system.

Like I’m genuinely praying that you guys listen to the streamers, the comp scene, the people who have continuously grinded this game religiously playing at the literal highest level because we genuinely deeply care about this game.

Do a round table, a big discord call, something, anything, get the community back on your side because it’s genuinely starting to tire me out that we are still asking for things that haven’t even been looked at in nearly a year

[tender mulch]

we should get titles, like for people who grind the leaderboard , "top 1000" , "top 100" or people who played since beta like "beta" or somthin, seems like a nice touch especially people who grind the leaderboard

[trail terrace]

Yusuf Dikec themed cosmetics when embark

[livid tiger]

kinda agree. The node being seperate and having that "most dedicated cashout players" description defintely baited me into thinking it would be a gold only pool. Loading it up and instantly getting a silver 2 on my team sucked a lot. And people in this server are already complaining about the emerald win conditions or the amount it takes to get max emerald. I probably wont get max emerald either but who cares? I dont need to be able to unlock everything?

(big agree with the msg bellow me lol)

[magic spire]

Embark: Grind to G1 for Emerald, its a sucky grind but when you get there the real game begins:

Embark: Congrats on getting there, because you worked so hard, we are now going to award more points to people who didnt grind, so they can get to G1 faster than you did!

what what?

Embark: and you also now get to carry those players, they will in no way help you in game so you can get wins to get emerald, but you can for sure help them get round wins to help them get to G1. No gold team mates for you my friend, and you have also won the ability to have 2 unranked potatos on your team while i line up some 3 stacks for you to play, thanks for playing and dont forget to buy our skins

[silver jewel]

um is it just me or did everyone's pro circuit stage 4 challenge change but mine? because i still have the challenge where i have to stop the opponent from stealing your cashout or decrypting a terminal 15 times, because this challenge is really tedious and inconsistent

[onyx crystal]

New tech/exploit that using winchclaw allows sledge heavies to 1 shot lights at full. Winch > Sledge Hit > Quick Melee, no dashing out. Very annoying, please fix.

[queen widget]

I keep crashing in world tour, got another 2h suspension even if I managed to rejoin. Not gonna be able to get the emerald lewis gun if the suspension keeps increasing...

[merry valve]

Huh??? 115 + 40 = 155, people do the same shit on sword, can do it with model as well I also don't think it's that broken considering you have a stun gun with just as much range that cancels it on a 15 second cooldown

[spiral thorn]

the 1887 hits 90 at range an lh1 hits 88 body, the 1887 is a shotgun, not a rifle, it really needs a nerf

[quick coyote]

the guns you have to aim with are nerfed into the ground yet the weapons you dont have to aim with like flame and melee are either buffed or kept the same. is the goal of the game to have an FPS where aimming isn't needed? If i wanted that i would be in the OW2 discord. @tough sapphire buffed or kept the same reread it

[tough sapphire]

flamethrower never received any update bro ...

[frosty swallow]

the one thing that i really think needs to be nerfed is the winch claw. i have not seen a single heavy (apart from myself) not running winch claw+sledhammer or winch claw+flamethrower. its impossible to win when you give the weapons that are op at short range but bad ata long range THE ABILITY TO KILL OPPONENTS AT LONG RANGE BY JUST PULLING THEM TOWARDS YOU 😠 the whole point of sledge and flame is that they can destroy whole teams at short range but are useless at long range, but by adding the winch you have turned the close range weapons into long(ish) range weapons. the range needs to be nerfed to something more like 12m or even as low as 9m to avoid this problem

[dense ocean]

day 6 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[gilded bloom]

25 wins from bronze 4 to gold 4 and 25 wins from gold 1 to emerald 3, this is a complete disrespect of our time and only pandering to neets who have nothing in life except this game - i thought embark learned from destiny 2 but this game hasnt learned from r6 and tarkov with their recoil-as-nerf model. boost xp gain from world tour, this kind of grindy model will kill the game that already struggled to get players

[silver jewel]

the model 1887 does not need a nerf but all light weapons besides the Bow the LH1 and SR-84 can keep the headshot damage but the rest of the lights weapons should not have a headshot bonus damage because the M11 can kill 2 heavies with 1 magazine.

[rugged temple]

Asking to remove headshot damage is wild 😭

[solemn fulcrum]

Rpg + winch + sledge what a effing skillful combo wow

[quick coyote]

Can your steam profile pic be shown to others like CSGO

[merry valve]

Model can kill 2 heavies in one mag too tho with better range... if you mean the m11 kills two heavies only headshots considering that it is a lot of times a spray weapon is a complete bullshit example

[hollow barn]

Embark!. Let us put more stickers on our guns!. 1 sticker per gun is too limited for the great variety and quantity. Increase the amount of stickers you can equip on each weapon/gadget.

[onyx crystal]

with stun you dont just instantly die. with the winch tech you do just die. so now its this game of "dont come within 15 metres of me or you die". with sword its has no range. model you have to get in range as well

[north frost]

I'm new to discord, is this where I'm supposed to report bugs?

[steel forge]

Since this Update, my Game is LAGGING as hell lmao, before it was moving relatively smooth

Especially in Gunfights it was dropping FPS like crazy

[prisma raptor]

#1201841543926005810

[real scroll]

I am so happy this most recent update made absolutely 0 real balance changes

[final haven]

bring xbox playstation crossplay back

[merry valve]

Tf a stunned sledge heavy gonna do against a light? Also I literally have 400+ hours on sword, I can confirm it is not that hard to cover 15 meters lmao when I see a sledge heavy I see a free kill

[onyx crystal]

Imagine you use any weapon other than sledge. Or throw a dome shield. You also have be using stun gun, which personally I dont, and it just doesnt seem intentional to have the stun time so long theres no chance at all to get away. And also sledge beats sword if both players are good

[spiral thorn]

the 1887 hits 90 at range an lh1 hits 88 headshot, the 1887 is a shotgun, not a rifle, it really needs a nerf

[keen adder]

I wish there was a way to send messages in game to random friends made along the way. Sometimes I get a friend request from a teammate, I accept, we play a few matches and have fun doing so. It's really hard to reconnect with these randos. Sure, you can send them an invite while you see they're in a match but no one should quit WT because it's not a nice thing to do and it gives you the time penalty. I could sent them an invite and wait in the lobby but waiting for their reply i.e. match to end could take up to 30 minutes or so.

There should be a way to chat with your random friends while they're playing the game.

[sand holly]

Add a desert eagle for the big guy
pros :

• finally gets a viable long distance weapon
• can still be slow and powerfull
• can do the handweapons quests
• is fun

[quick coyote]

Kyoto is so dark in all buildings. Fix it plesse!

[regal brook]

V sync & Frame Rate Limit btw doesn't seem to work in this game...

[molten trail]

Wtf logic is this? 😂 no sht the game will be harder playing solo fighting coordinated teams. Why are you even crying about this 😂. Can even just go play quick play you dont need to play world tour.

[rough herald]

why is my ping so fcking high????

@quick coyote no

[halcyon depot]

Is this the only gadget and specialized correction?
If the management team doesn't want to correct the game balance seriously, I don't want to play this game again.
I was disappointed with poor balance adjustment, new rules, and I was disappointed with infinite loading and stopped playing.

[burnt notch]

This white role wants to remove headshots lmao

[quick coyote]

Is people happy with this update?

[graceful lion]

The Finals mode turned out to be the biggest bait this game delivered so far. I know the playerbase is small but talking about your most dedicated players and riling up expectations about a mode where only these players get to compete, to just turn out to be that you can now carry unranked players for a win. Nah man.

10% penalty is a joke, why did you even ask about 20-25% in the survey then? Honestly feels like Embark is running around like a headless chicken.

Do something about the throwing knives too, they needed a buff, but in its current state they are probably the strongest weapon in the game rn. Everyone and his mom is running them. I like the cooldown/stamina idea.

30% initial cashout can stay, thats cool

So far your rework tries seem headless. You also need to communicate WAY BETTER what WT is about. Tbh you kinda deserve the backlash over the Finals mode/event.

[fading flame]

I might be wrong but I think this game has the best community out there.

[rotund oxide]

Suggestion: Experimental WT Settings where teams STEAL 10 percent on wipes.

[copper lark]

WT has gotten very sweaty this patch it seems. I am barely seeing any lights anymore in high mmr(low elo will always have lights because it's fun to play but the fact low elo has mostly lights shows that light isn't good, all the medium and heavies win more games and end up in high mmr). I feel like heal beam and rpg needs to be looked into, every heavy has rpg, and every medium uses heal beam. This has been overwatch's GOAT meta for too long can we please address this with some changes to rpg and heal beam

Suggestion: change rpg to around 60 dmg and give heavy 2 charges of rpg, make the radius a bit smaller, this will allow it to be used for more utility and less point n click free kill.
Make heal beam incapable of stacking on the same target, so you can't have 2 healers healing 1 ally. make the healing speed much slower so healers can't just make their heavy invincible

[upper citrus]

Heal beam would be okay if medium didn’t shit out burst damage with the model and there was an actual trade off for the class. And yeah RPG is arguably the worst designed thing in the entire game. Instant AOE damage is horrible for a team shooter. It shouldn’t be able to be reloaded until you have committed to shooting it

[silent grove]

i dont think theres a lack of lights in wt (yes this was today) but wt has definitely become sweatier

[quick coyote]

If you can’t beat them, join them.

Hey embark pls do some tweaking on kyoto map, i know its beautiful but please there is so much unused 3d object, like the bamboo is too much. and the bush is too many, on that area the tower is unused too why dont you try to put the cashout station right there. the water is unforgiving and the spot for yellow house is too slow for a run cuz there so many godamn water on it. REDUCE IT. making the fight accidentally not fair especially if you're using heavy. there is jumpad right there and etc but what if the jumpad got blocked?also reduce the tree, so many unused tree. thats what makes kyoto a heavy map.

P.S : AND MAKE KYOTO A LITTLE BIT BRIGHT WHEN IT GOES TO NIGHT TIME. ITS SO FUCKING DARK. AND REDUCE THE ROCKS ON BAMBOO AREA, THE TRAVERSAL IS NOT EVEN GOOD AND SO MANY UNFAIR SPOT THAT U CANT SEE THE ENEMY AND ENEMY CANT SEE YOU BECUZ OF WHAT??

YESSS THE FUCKING BUSH AND BAMBOO. TOO MANY!!!!! JUST PUT IT FOR ART PURPOSE NOT TO MAKE THE GAME UNFAIR. (i can even kill the enemy just by seeing his health bar even in close fuckin' range)

arrghh great design but bad execution. I like sys horizon more than kyoto. cuz the maps its so fucking simple. the circulation between areas is so seamless.

[upbeat urchin]

1887 only needs a range nerf

[charred seal]

its all cuz of the shitty emerald grind where u get points for winning the finals. I love your content by the way keep it up bro.

[high wing]

I just don't understand melee in this game. how can a L hit dagger in my back, when they aren't even behind me, and my sledgehammer doesnt hit when swinging in a enemies face?

[slender marsh]

i dont have this challenge in my circuit

[quick coyote]

MGL32 animations of the magazine spinning similar to the Lewis Gun new animations would be cool.

[blissful void]

A few things:

I’m satisfied with the changes made based on the reception of the Google form/survey method for gathering feedback from the recent changes to WT. 10% on a team wipe seems fair. Without the penalty, WT plays a bit too risk adverse. Please continue to ingest feedback in this manner as not everything can be solved by feedback, but it is a step in the right direction and I’m glad to see changes reflected quickly.

On the other hand, I’m very disappointed to see no balance changes made in the last 2 patches. The last patch, I understand. You guys work hard and deserve a break! The store update was a bit lackluster and regrettably, I wish there was a bit more content planned to release while away. Nonetheless, I hope it was an enjoyable time off.

The sentiment around lights being the strongest character right now is consistent. I hate to beat a dead horse, but it’s frustrating to consistently play against light-dominated lobbies. Whether it’s quick cash or WT, playing against multiple triple light teams is difficult. I’ve played light more this season than I’ve played in the beta. It seems I’ve defaulted to the “if you can’t beat em, join em” mentality. While, admittedly, the class is fun to play, and matches against all lights are interesting and competitive, I’d see this more as an LTM where you face off against all folks in the same class. Games against all other mediums or all other heavies especially might be boring. That says a lot about the current meta. The fact that this is GA play and has remained GA play is shocking.

My hope is that other classes can receive a buff, as it hasn’t been as fun to play this game anymore. My competitive running mates that grinded diamond last season are not as enthusiastic about this season and it’s been a struggle to progress in WT (Gold 4 currently) solo queue. They’ve defaulted to other games as they are having more fun there. Understandably so. With over a month left before S4, hopefully we can see the changes that are reflective of the community’s feedback and also in alignment with Embark’s goals with The Finals.

As always, we appreciate the work and effort you put into this game.

[hybrid obsidian]

Limit the amount that people can carry in bank it to 10K

[trail turret]

You presented no argument at all! wtf logic is it that players should be punished for not having 2 people to play with?
Players who play solo should be rewarded for being willing to play solo. The lobbies would be a lot smaller if there weren’t any. And “you don’t have to play ranked” isn’t an argument, again. I can just not play this game and contribute to its demise. Playing games is already pointless, playing quick play is beyond pointless.

[dreamy mirage]

Heavy its still dominant, new peeps are quitting because of getting one shotted in a FPS game. It makes no sense, nerf winch claw meters down from 18 to 15, nerf sledge hammer damage from 200 to 175 and rpg to 120 or 110

[upper citrus]

Nerfing numbers isn’t going to fix things that are poorly designed

Give winch claw a spin up with an audio cue so it can’t be thrown out instantly

Don’t allow the RPG to be reloaded until the player has committed to shooting it, allowing proper time for enemies to react

And sledge won’t need to be touched if winch is given a spin up

[molten trail]

Congz on learning its harder to play team games solo compared to forming a team 😂. This has been a thing for a long time now. Can literally go in the LFG channel and find people to play with there r solutions to ur victim problems

[velvet olive]

i don’t see a lack of lights at all, it’s just that light is hard to play, i do agree that RPG is very strong but they already chopped healing beam, maybe they just need to lower its healing per second

[sinful jasper]

I want to see more narrators!

[rough herald]

scotty and june is perfect

vv same vv

[dense tinsel]

same

[silent fog]

Me when there is teams in team based game 🤯

[cunning oak]

i would like to not be teamed up with level 1 players in the finals who havnt even played the game before
only today 4 games in a row with 2 teammembers below lvl 5

[high wing]

Embark should give their salaries to everyone suffering in TA while cheaters having the time of their life

[twin heart]

Whenever i see people claiming 1887 is OP and trying to explain it i want to hammer nails into my ears

...and where the hell did you even get the "LH1 deals 88 to the body" thing

[spiral thorn]

so ur saying it doesnt do ridiculous amounts of damage at the range of a rifle that does arguably less damage, because from the experience of my 350+ hours in game i can tell u it definately isnt balanced and therefore needs a rework, the range and damge drop off are non existant in the grand scheme of things, its obviusly nopt sniper level but it shoot too far for the damage it deals

[ionic grail]

RPG should be Destruction Orientated and not a free win condition.

Heal Beam should have a warm up time or something, so it slowly ramps up to max rate, saves it from being so damn strong, double healing the same person simply needs to go as a mechanic, the argument of “but they’re not firing at you they’re using heal beam” is so backwards when heavy is just such a safe pick

[upper citrus]

Except for the 1887 is OP. It’s the best shotgun in the game and it’s on the support class.

For some reason embark continues to give medium an amazing offensive weapon despite the fact that the class is meant to have lower damage output on average to counterbalance its insane support and utility.

It’s been so bad for so long that medium has gotten multiple support and utility gadgets/specials completely shafted because people thought they were problematic when in reality the only issue was that medium had these amazing tools while also being fully capable in combat.

If you don’t think the model 1887 needs to be nerfed then you don’t understand the design of the classes and why each class needs strengths and weaknesses

[dark terrace]

I genuinly don't know what you mean by melee being an issue in World Tour. Is it the increase of Hammer players (which is primarly due to long range weapons on the Heavy class being gutted) or their lack of effectiveness (such as Spear, Dagger, Riot Shield and Dual Blades seeing very little play in WT).

Regardless, I don't think much of melee in this game. Light has dashes to capitalize on, and Heavy as a lot of burst tools and gap closers to take advantage of. Most melee weapons aren't very effective rn

[copper lark]

there is sbmm, it's pretty open but if you are seeing tons of lights you might be in lower mmr. also just because you saw 1 team of triple lights winning doesn't mean it's the best comp. I've won with it too when im having fun, but heavy and medium are just better. Also great examples even @frail sail admits heavy and medium are stronger picks and I'm sure vraic and carni would claim the same thing. but double heavy is banned in tourneys and scrims which is partly why we practice light in wt. because sometimes it's role locked in tourneys so light is brought in.

I also never asked for dps buff, nor did i ask for any light buff

[bright oasis]

since when is cashout steal 2 seconds ?????????????????????? five seconds left and it takes 7 seconds to steal but 2 really ? thats crazy

[misty jasper]

you are excluding rate of fire here..
and ammo count

[thorn nebula]

i have consistantly been 2 pumped by a medium shotgun, if they play on pc, chances are they are hitting the max of 128 every time they shoot

[sharp briar]

Can you please do something about the stun gun. If you stun an enemy using melee, it’s a granteed kill. No skill required. It’s insanely mindless

[topaz ledge]

controller aim assist is strong enough to track the pitiful speed of counter strafing in this game. great way to promote a higher skill ceiling during gunfights when a controller user can just point their stick at an enemy with higher skill and win

[blissful onyx]

a controller user can also not use aim assist(me) I'm probably dumb though

[untold cypress]

Heavy's best ranged weapon is a shotgun. 🫠

[main stream]

@pearl kiln you need to fix that I just lost 1100 rs on terminal when my teammate disconnected and I still dropped 17 kills with 10k combat

[pine kernel]

This is a small thing but would be very helpful if you could fix, everytime I launch the game the video settings reset to something, i think all medium.The actual settings themselves look the same but in game theres reflections and all and I need to set them back to low. One time I launched and the actual settings themselves showed all medium, but most of the time the settings look the same despite the game rendering a higher quality image. This is annoying because I need to play on low settings for fps, and right now everytime I launch the game I have to go to the video settings tab and switch them then switch back

[true harness]

Please consider upping the team wipe penalty to 20%. In its current state, the penalty isn't strong enough to be meaningful. My original proposal was 15%, but even then, it's likely not enough.

[vale acorn]

10 v 10 would be nice

[coarse oar]

The model does not need to be nerfed lmao

[obtuse pilot]

Having problems with in game mic echo. Just bought a new headset to see of it was my headset echoing but I'm not sure if it's an in game problem. Does anyone know of any fixes? I'm on ps5

[rough herald]

there are bigger problem to balance then modle lmao

[trail turret]

I’m put on a team regardless because it is a team based game 🤯
You’re not addressing the issue that players that don’t have a premade team are punished for not having one.

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/in-shock-gif-17553158948252598097

[mossy tinsel]

The scoring system for the finals is terrible.
In the old scoring system, I got a certain amount of points for making it to the second round, so if I got eliminated in the second round, I could say, "Oh, I'm glad I made it to the second round."
But with the current win scoring system, if I make it to the second round, or even the last round, and then get knocked out, there's no reward, so I get burned out and have less and less motivation to reach the emerald.
I don't know what happens if I get eliminated in the second round, but it would be nice to at least award points in some way for making it to the final round.

[quaint bobcat]

Emerald scoring system makes you more burned out, give something for getting to final round.

[flat solstice]

I agree. If you make it to the final round you should get a point. and then two points for winning the tournament.