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nocturne fern
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when im in a not be able to read the letters "OCE" challenge and my opponent is @quiet tide

violet elbow
red echo
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just thought of smth not sure of how good of an idea it is , but to add some counterplay if you manage to melee it while it travels to you , you counter it and it doesnt hook you

and im not sure if this alr exists but make it to be blocked when trying to hook over a dome/mesh shield

livid spruce
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Remove FOMO thanks, great game, I love it, kiss kiss Embark studios.

nova crest
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Me again, probably the only one that cares about cosmetics in this chatšŸ„ŗ pleasešŸ«¶šŸ¼

Guys, I am literally BEGGING YOU, to please allow hair to be worn with the new white bucket hat, same as the black onešŸ™šŸ¼
Pleeeeeease I need it in my life šŸ˜­šŸ«¶šŸ¼

high lynx
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High fire rate combined with unlimited ammo is what made the throwing knife the most irritating weapon to play against. There is little to no repercussion for spamming the knives, a few will land anyway. Itā€™s a skill-less crutch as it is right now, either introduce an ammo system (ammo regenerates as time goes by like gadgets, max 2 pairs, 1 new pair every second) or reduce fire rate

open nymph
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light class is way too overpowered

thick sorrel
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List of high reward but no/less skill required, please balance!

RPG:

  • less dmg, more spread at hipfire, slower weapon swap
    Charge & Slam:
  • less dmg per hit
    Winch Claw:
  • allow counterplay, remove stun effect, make it overall slower (initial, execution, pull) so victims can react
    Explosive Mines:
  • louder soundcue, max 1 mine at a time, lower damage
    Stun Gun:
  • HOLD-Rework: Full Input-Block, but you can't attack at the same time, because you have to hold it
    Throwing Knives:
  • increase the delay betwen first and second projectile
    Sniper:
  • bulletdrop, no hitscan/less velocity - effects only long ranges - Make Powershift playable again!
    Model 1887:
  • more spread - midrange damage is crazy for a shotgun gamewise
    Healing Beam
  • slower rate, no heal stacking

@stable path I thought about shooting the chain of Winch Claw for release, but it's to fast right now - no time for reaction.

smoky gust
# red echo just thought of smth not sure of how good of an idea it is , but to add some cou...

that would be better than what we have right now
but winch claws hit detection is really buggy sometimes
it might just end up phasing through your melee, just to still catch you on the return trip

maybe instead, if you get winched, you get tied up in the chain and get slowed, you are freed once you quick melee it 2-3 times

instead of being pulled into melee range, a heavy can catch up instead
it would prevent us from being pulled into unfavorable situations that always result in death
it puts some risk on the heavy, since they have to run after you
taking some distance from the heavy is rewarded, because you have more time to unwinch yourself before the heavy catches up

dome/mesh blocking it would only help those that use it and just enforce them as strict meta even harder

also @pseudo latch, something i would like to add
a big part of melee's skill (and balance) comes from getting close to the target in the first place
when fighting a heavy, you need to either kill them before they get to you, or run away
if they just run in without thinking, they will be gunned down and punished

but the winch claw stun specifically enables you to do just that
mindlessly run at someone and win
it removes the gameplay between seeing them and them being in range, where the punishment normally happens
we end up in situation where melee's risks are largely nullified and the usually remaining counterplay is removed (because you're already in range and running doesn't build distance fast enough)

if you weren't stunned during the winch, you could at the very least fight back and gain a slight advantage that might be able to save your life every once in a while
it probably wouldn't turn combat winch into a net negative but even if it did, if you just run at someone while using melee from 17 meters away you should be punished

clever hawk
# thick sorrel **List of high reward but no/less skill required, please balance!** **RPG**: - ...

RPG - major damage reduction (140 -> 60-70) is all thatā€™s necessary. Small recharge buff too.

Charge & Slam - 130 damage shouldnā€™t be immediate. Either reduce the damage of the first hit or ramp it up the further you travel

Winch - all of these suggestions totally kill it, itā€™d be a detriment to use. Stopping players from being pulled any closer than 8-10m is preferable.

Mines - definitely need to be more utility than raw damage. I wouldnā€™t mind the current volume if the damage wasnā€™t so extreme.

Stun gun - horrible suggestion for 2v1 scenarios. Removing player agency is always terrible. Greatly reducing the movement penalty is desirable.

Knives - hurting usability is a bad idea, they already have a higher skill floor than most weapons. Damage needs to be toned down.

Sniper - sounds good, similar to KS23.

Model - already overshadowed by easy meta automatic weapons which are viable at all ranges. Zero nerfs needed, small QOL buffs only.

Healing beam - heal rate is fine and can be out damaged. Stacking should be removed.

storm inlet
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throwing knives nerf next patch ? :)
no they aren't, os every class in 1s isn't balanced @teal bear

teal bear
proven crown
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Generally happy with all cashout changes and think it plays better ā™„ļø however:

  1. no penalty for team wipes means that the 1st place team after half time is actually more incentivized to third party - so I think a slightly longer time penalty for team wipes would be good, plus perhaps a 15% loss. Please add an indicator line on each teams bar on the bar chart in top left so we don't need to do math for this kind of thing and can just see where they'd be after getting wiped šŸ¤˜šŸ»

  2. seeing as kills count for 500 now, there should be some kind of "assist counts as kill" mechanic because right now it's quite unfair

  3. I feel that in this new system it would be best to increase the value of vaults later in the game - because it's marketly harder to come back from last place after halftime now.

  4. the spawn logic on the first vaults seems to be working well, so perhaps this thinking could be applied to the rest of the vaults?

  5. perhaps if vaults generally spawned closer to their respective stations, it would decrease third partying because macro decisions become a little more obvious?

restive crescent
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lmao

slender fractal
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Add custom cashout music depending iin who starts it and who steals iot

sage turtle
white juniper
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yo we need the -30% cash penalty in the tournament back, if 30 is too harsh then make it 20 or lower, but there needs to be a risk to 3rd partying

tribal shard
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It really would be cool to fix the walking simulator part of the game and actually have a proper respawning system.

Throwing knives are in a just fine spot
Indeed, in fact if anything there's bugs in the game that make them harder to play which should probably get fixed. (Nothing major just knives who often don't deal damage or go through enemies)

rough herald
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Buff balance Team šŸ™

proven ibex
elfin dock
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Removing this feature has made the tournament unfair for the people who were in the knockout zone, there is no way to make a comeback and makes the game already fixed who will win.Bring back -30% cash penalty Embark.

quasi fiber
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For the most part I think the changes to cash out/world tour are good. The games are closer. The only part I don't think works well is removing the team wipe penalty. This causes people to TDM more then they did before as well as takes away a good strategic element to the game. I also find it makes coins useless except for in the final round since a team wipe doesn't really affect anything anymore.

rough herald
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Agree, but why man so aggressive?

night vortex
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I think this might be a symptom of people just genuinely not having fun with the game. So theyā€™re trying to inject any sort of fun they can think of. Like for me personally, Lights are the opposite of fun to play against, to the point I wish they just werenā€™t in the game. But as a Heavy player Iā€™m that for someone else because of the Winch or whatever else I may be using that has been deemed unfair.

The lack of direction seems to be wearing people down really bad after three seasons. Obviously this isnā€™t true for all of them, as there are bad actors for sure.

velvet olive
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MGL32 animation pack ā¤ļø

dry raft
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give back the team wipe and this mode will be good. (do -20% instead)

livid spruce
silent fog
crisp abyss
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delete Terminal Attack pls (Or just bring back the old ranked mode)

near oyster
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tbh just buff everything

elfin dock
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Add new maps embark

red knot
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FIX the match making!

it's like a 20 year old code that thinks i sweat 24/7 and gives me teammates that ALWAYS leave!

golden harbor
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nerf charge n slam and RPG

candid idol
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Buff sledgehammer damage and swing speed

white juniper
uneven dagger
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give heavies thermal bore Clueless

cosmic ether
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Give heavies a nuclear warhead

oblique pagoda
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Give heavies 750 hp and the movement of a light

rough herald
latent meteor
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pls buff winch claw

primal folio
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hmm myes waiter more heavy buffs please

late flower
coarse oar
vernal swallow
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add recolored chef outfit thatā€™s like dark blue so I can make my gojo fit šŸ”„

@oblique pagoda wait juggernaut game mode??? a heavy with 1000 hp lmfao

smoky gust
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i think gadgets should display stats like the weapons
knowing recharge, carried amount, damage, aoe size, how long an effect lasts etc. would be really helpful

bitter plaza
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Needs fixxin

thick sorrel
# livid spruce "I want the game to be easier for me, a light main, a list"

Nice try but I listed Stun Gun, Throwing knives and Sniper, so what? I asked for more skill. Let me guess, you're the type of guy who needs RPG to win a fight, don't cha?

@silent fog I bet he can't see cloaked lights eitheršŸ˜„

@sacred siren Believe me, I shit on Lights, no matter what they use.
https://youtu.be/-hccOyorDrs?si=_MNlzCz3-_tRPyZA
I have several videos for proof Look for trolling MMM or Full heavy squad demolished Video!

Calling me an Idiot, but agreeing on the bulletdrop for sniper- peak hyporcite...

@livid spruce Again, a sniper without Bulletdrop and Hitscan takes just little skill. Even CoD takes more skill. My nerfs for Sniper effects just the long ranges like in powershift were people constantly complain about Light sniper. Close to mid feels just the same, holy shit...

Edit: Dude, can you stop lying?
How broken are you that you can't stop flaming? You cry baby sound like a negative K/D Player. Do you have fun?

empty junco
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ANNOYING BUG HAPPENING 50% OF GAMES ON PS5
Stuck in the match loading screen but I can hear the match going on. Any fixes?

sacred siren
# thick sorrel Nice try but I listed Stun Gun, Throwing knives and Sniper, so what? I asked for...

funny enough, those are the exact same weapons that lights use to counter bad lights. you're only reinforcing the other dudes point, you're just someone who wants to run in and shoot people, and then complain when you get caught out of position (mines, winched, ate an rpg, one shot by TK, no cover from sniper etc.)

@livid spruce im agreeing with you on the point that the dude is an idiot but i hate snipers. its so annoying to play against. i think bullet drop or some form of prevention of cross map hitscan 115dmg is nessecary.

@thick sorrel you just posted a 8 minute video with you ratting against default skins in bank it. not sure how that doesnt further prove my point

haughty bay
livid spruce
# sacred siren funny enough, those are the exact same weapons that lights use to counter bad li...

Thank you.
Sniper is probably one of the weapons that requires the most (satisfying) skill to use and one of the only weapons that counter other lights effectively, and yet he wants another nerf on top of it so he can dash/cloak & smg like an idiot and call it skill.

Every single "nerfs" and "buffs" on his list is just to make a cloak + taser + smg/sword loadout even easier than it already is.

Lmfao ok he posted a video. Average MP5 user.

@sacred siren I agree snipers can be annoying and I get you, I hope they find a way to change them without removing the nervous and satisfying gameplay they offer.

mortal ridge
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The team wipe penalty needs to return. There are situations where mathematically, you are guaranteed to lose, even if you double both Vault 5 and 6. So even if I wipe the team in second place and steal their money, I still get 3rd or 4th place.

The absence of a team wipe penalty also completely removes the need to coin. There's honestly absolutely no reason to even coin anymore if you don't lose any money for wiping. If you only have one teammate up, you might as well just wait for the wipe

late flower
# thick sorrel **List of high reward but no/less skill required, please balance!** **RPG**: - ...

For a more expounded view

Pre winch Melee or shotgun heavy was miserable because you were consistently out paced and would only rarely close the distance to the point heavy used charge n slam

2 if you're gonna take away RPGs damage which I'm not against it needs a much shorter CD because it doesn't bring enough utility to justify that long of a CD

3 allowing a player to shoot a player whilst being pulled would make winch unusable against light the high dps class and your primary pull target seeing as the heavy can't do any damage that means in the time it takes to winch (and you want to make it slower) heavy could lose 1/3 to 2/3 of they're HP also making it slower by several factors wouldn't just effect players remember winch also interacts with your environment. It's also a poor design because if you yank someone who's by they're team this already happens people start shooting you so you're defenseless you're slow you're gonna be beamed down and you get punished for hitting your util by enemies getting 1-2 seconds of free dps on you they're team can still shoot you and all this to pull them into melee range where they're still several items that counter it and at the same change you want to buff stun gun to have no counterplay because it makes someone completely useless?

Also why does community suggested balance changes always just to make things they dislike absolute trash not worse but just garbage and community recommended reworks always end up as useless or more annoying than the original

warm bluff
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buff tourney match leave penalty šŸ—£ļø šŸ”„

wraith zephyr
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I HATE that the penalties have been removed. its 10x to easy now. 0 brain or thought needed.... PLEASE REVERT

iron bough
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Scotty has spoken.

clever hawk
sharp briar
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The xp54 is way too accurate. Also nerf winch. Itā€™s an auto win fight button for braindead heavies.

wanton vigil
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i agree with this
most of the guns iā€™ve used after recoil changes have felt really strange even when the changes are meant to improve accuracy

@dim pawn yea, fcar is the worst in my opinion, but i also miss the s1 m60 recoil too

thick sorrel
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@late flower
Thx for your feedback! No insult feels great.

Goo gun and melee/shotgun is a crazy skilled and fun combo to close the distance (watch ekazo on youtube)
Anyway you don't have to close the distance because people come to you. Cashout or Terminal attack is all about defending, so you don't need to chase!

It's weird that you counter only the heavy nerfs but ok

2 I didnt say how much dmg. The hipfire and swap time nerf would reflect the utility part. Compare frag grenades to it. Its exclusivly for kills but compared to RPG way more difficult to do so. And everbody has frags but nobody wants to use it. RPG has a 99,9% pickrate just for easier kills and not for destroying gadgets or building parts.

3 Again, I didnt mention how much slower. Im sure there is a fair sweetspot. TTK L vs H is twice as much. Winch claw and RPG gg no matter which class you face...

surreal meadow
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whoever balanced and gave the go ahead to the winch claw, needs to be put on arc raiders. its genuinely so stupid and braindead when you guys clearly have never played an ability based team game and you DIDNT ever reach high ranks in it, decided to add the winch claw.
roadhog was an issue for any squishy until they recently removed his one shot combo, which he can still solo kill in an extra second
blitzcrank is banned 30% of the time

how the fuck did any of you think adding in a free kill witht he sandbox element WASNT going to be an issue

tame trench
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Hey everyone. Just to be sure. Can anyone confirm that the headshot challenge is bugged ?

hybrid dock
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grizzled hornet
proud thistle
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Remove TA

pseudo latch
# smoky gust that would be better than what we have right now but winch claws hit detection i...

I get where youā€™re coming from, but i do once again need to talk about the equation again.
Output
Viability = ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€” x consistency
Commitment
Winch needs to have an output to justify the commitment, and already current winch is victim sided on who gets to start acting again, leaving victims a lot of room to either use disengage tools (dash, taser, bouncepad, goo grenade) or to open the trade themselves, so i already think winch gives victims ample time to go ā€œwell shit, this is happeningā€ without allowing them to buffer a dash or ready a bouncepad or just goo off the pull halfway and completely counteract the heavy playing properly. Without the stun winch would be too easy to counteract, and a lot of its usecases become a ā€œwhy did I botherā€ or ā€œoh I actively killed myself doing that, greatā€.
And 17 meters sounds like, and admittedly is, a fair bit, but itā€™s well within the Goldilocks range weā€™ve learned to give heavy respect, especially when you know they have a melee option. Winch gave melee a chance to actually play, because in S2 using tools like the sledgehammer for anything but the fun value got you in trouble.

At the end of the day, the only things winch really needs, in my eyes, are lower tolerances on what counts as a successful hook (demanding line of sight, breaking immediately if itā€™s ever broken) and maybe a mild range reduction, im talkin like 2 meters down to 15 so its not in this awkward in-between. Because thatā€™s another problem, we make winch too short it becomes another issue of ā€œwhy do I bother using this, if im getting within 10 meters just to land this I may as well run something else and use a gun good at 10 metersā€

haughty bay
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Yall should hire me to make the game, I will get things in order with iron fist

upbeat inlet
paper gale
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team wipe penalty needs to still be a thing other than that its good

unkempt bane
fathom schooner
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fix the copious number of riot shield bugs šŸ‘ ok

vital crystal
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Buff RPG / Hammer / Dome Shield / Flamethrower

Nerf everything else entirely

sharp briar
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Can you nerf the accuracy of the xp54. Retribute the damage or reload speed or something. Iā€™m just fed up with getting lasered by an smg at medium range, heavy tagged at long range, and demolished at point blank. Itā€™s really quite overpowered. I speak for a silent majority. Most of which donā€™t have discord.

late flower
waxen citrus
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I have one simple request: I play on a super ultra wide 32:9 monitor and Iā€™d like to center my HUD or set some kind of HUD padding so my interface isnā€™t all the way at the corners of my screen

Is this possible?

olive wraith
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Please switch back to tournament ranked. Literally unplayable rn because all of my teammates quit. I went from plat 1 to silver 3 cuz of this
Like, seriously, WHY DO YOU SUBTRACT 500 RANK SCORE WHEN IM THE ONLY PERSON ON M Y TEAM?!?!

wispy sand
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Buff smoke nades by reducing CD by 2 seconds, making name/HP bar not show up when damaged inside of smoke/through smoke, I have a theory that it already does but if it doesnt: disable all aim assist inside of smoke/aiming inside of smoke, disable turret tracking, glitch mine triggering (this one I feel since more proximity based and possibly not a sensor like the turret would make this one not doable)

@reima.#0000 "Smokes should last longer, be more dense and cover a greater area"

broken geyser
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Reduce the Lewis and m60 recoil or revert their changes

stray pasture
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can we all agree that healing beam i stoo op?
I had to situations where i deal 400+ dmg TO LIGHT PLAYER and he survived it...

spiral wren
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The current ranking system is honestly terrible.
Even when you win, you barely get any points, but when you lose, you get docked over 1000 points.
It's absolutely insane.
Losing one game can cost you the points equivalent to around six wins.
On top of that, there are so many cheaters.
If you get destroyed by a full cheater team in the Ruby rank, you have to be prepared to lose around 1500 points.
Something needs to be done to improve this.
With a point system like this, it's honestly better to go back to a fixed point system like in Season 1.

rotund rapids
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Stopped playing ranked in like s1. Grindy, not representative of individual skill and TA is just meh

Bring back S2 ranked with alterations?

lone orbit
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Make this game an esports title

smoky gust
# pseudo latch I get where youā€™re coming from, but i do once again need to talk about the equat...

the little extra time the winched player gets is not enough to really do anything about it
most tools take too long to deploy, you don't have enough time to kill them and running doesn't build damage fast enough

lights often die instantly to a heavy attack, mediums are 1-shot to rpg after any hit and heavies cant build a gap to avoid follow up hits

maybe removing the stun would make people question why they use winch but that's preferable to what its doing currently
that being making any enemy that gets 1-shot constantly frustrated because they aren't allowed to fight a heavy or risk being 1 shot

if winch sucked, you could always stop using it in favor of something more fun
but currently you cant stop enemies from abusing something broken

wanton vigil
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i would like to see recon senses added back in some form, even if itā€™s not used for the same purpose, such as seeing canisters and gadgets (mines, turrets, etc.) instead of players

pseudo latch
late flower
runic robin
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If youā€™re gonna let bitches use triple medium then add a god damn frag indicator so you can see if frags are close to you

severe linden
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Start game
Wait 4 minutes for a game
Loading screen bug
Quit game

young hamlet
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In the TA tutorial, you regen health and gadgets
TA doesn't have either
Fix it please

rancid wasp
torn sable
thick sorrel
# late flower Oh yeah sorry I was running out of space and a word limit by discord I also to...

How do you like this Version?

No Skill but High reward? Please balance!

RPG:

  • less dmg 120?, more spread at hipfire, slower weapon swap
    Charge & Slam:
  • less damage per hit, give it start animation and/or "roar" soundcue to make Players aware something big is coming, to allow dodging - right now it's instant
    Winch Claw:
  • allow counterplay, remove stun effect, make it overall milliseconds slower (initial, execution, pull) so Victims are not free kills
    Explosive Mines:
  • louder soundcue, max. 1 Mine at a time or lower damage
    Stun Gun:
  • HOLD-Rework: Season 1 Stun for 3s?, but the User need to hold it and can't attack at the same time - this makes it a Team-Gadget instead of free Light kills
    Throwing Knives:
  • increase the delay betwen first and second projectile, like it was before Patch 2.10
    Sniper:
  • bulletdrop, no hitscan/less velocity - would only effect long ranges - Make Powershift enjoyable again!
    Model 1887:
  • a bit more spread/sway at hipfire, like you did with SH1900, but with ADS keep it like now - midrange damage is crazy for a shotgun gamewise; real life not I know...
    Healing Beam
  • slightly slower heal rate, no heal stacking
pseudo latch
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Unfortunately third parties where one team gets to win for doing nothing will remain an issue as long as thereā€™s four teams.

As for the argument of your third paragraph, under the implications that you A: manage to get the boxes staggered in the way you want them while also being able to walk away with one, and more importantly B: three separate teams just fucking let you deposit both cashbox 3 and 4, follows by C: you yet again sinking the most valuable cashbox, then maybe you deserve all the cash you just earned.

Not to mention, if all youā€™re doing is sinking the boxes, people are going to catch up to you with completion cash fast. You will still need to finish some of those boxes do secure a placement, but if you do so, then I see absolutely no issue with you being rewarded for doing objectives.

glossy spire
sharp briar
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Make the stun gun like it is on real life: super limited range, canā€™t fire a weapon while stunning someone because you have to hold the stun gun while it sends electricity down strings that are attached to the opp. If the opp moves out of range, the strings disconnect and the stun effect is lifted. In retribution, it does 15 damage, and the enemy cannot turn quickly or ads while being stunned.

It becomes a team gadget instead of a free unfair kill for light.

sweet seal
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game isnt fun anymore

tough merlin
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Cashout change's are awful. If your in first on the last vault there's little, and often no risk of being able to lose cause wipes aren't a thing now.

I'm convinced the people complaining about stun gun never actually have used it

pseudo breach
late flower
copper lark
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can we even out/fix the xp gain for gadgets and weapons, stuff like barricade and pyro nade lvl very very fast where as stuff like gateway and data reshaper level very slowly

vale acorn
night vortex
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Ive thought this as well. Iā€™ve always thought buzzer beaters where if youā€™re holding the steal when the timer finishes itā€™ll go unless youā€™re interrupted

stray thunder
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So when do we get a matchmaking system that does its job?

Everbody is complaining about op shit and request nerfs of this or that. When the real problem is a skill issue and facing opponents way over your skill level.

nocturne sand
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Devs, I get making changes to the modes now while the game is still ā€œyoungā€ especially cashout since itā€™s not ranked currently, but did you play-test these changes?

Why not just create a ā€œbeta/experimentalā€ playlist for players to try it out and give feedback before doing a hard launch with significant changes. My squad we all have 15+ years of FPS experience, we would be happy to play-test and give feedback. I really canā€™t make sense of the recent changes, even with you guys giving your supporting reasoning for doing them.

The cashout changes are terrible and have really hurt the fun of the mode. You had a near-perfect, unique, fun, competitive game mode that now doesnā€™t play nearly as well.

Even when I read the changes on paper I could tell ā€œthatā€™s not going to be goodā€ but actually playing it, theyā€™re even worse.

Whenever I type in here I try to give detailed, constructive feedback but these changes are way off the mark.

Sent a message within the last week giving my feedback on the changes, hopefully you will take those tweaks into consideration.

indigo pasture
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Could we bring back Dead Go Boom and/or remove Low Gravity? And instead of instantly exploding, allow the enemy/friendly trophy blink bright red 3-5 times before they explode. This will allow you to escape if you're paying attention, or throw your teammates trophy at the enemy to cause extra damage. Dead Go Boom is a good concept, but it wasn't handled and received very well, and these changes might help

cerulean birch
astral viper
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Please look into rebalancing the audio mixing. Team mate footsteps are so loud I can hear them from miles away, but I can't hear the player shooting me in the back at point blank.

sonic wigeon
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Increase the points for winning in World Tour. It takes to long to rank to gold 1. Some of us have a job and a life and dont have time to grind all day and night.. Or let all gold levels compete in emerald

smoky gust
# pseudo latch Removing the stun gives the victim way too much room to turn the winch into *the...

a normal sledge heavy is punished for just running at someone
winch already makes this punishment way less effective, the least we can do is allow it to deal some damage that heavy would normally have taken for a misplay like this

winch should not replace all movement and positioning skill as requirement for kills
these are what normally keeps melee balanced, so in return they should at least risk some damage for avoiding a skillful engagement

pseudo latch
# smoky gust a normal sledge heavy is punished for just running at someone winch already make...

A normal sledge heavy couldnā€™t fucking play before this season.
Winch gives half of heavies options a little more more viability within heavies effective range. Considering we only work as a class within 25 meters, we should be good at fighting people within 25 meters, and half our weapons donā€™t even work past two-to-five meters without winch.

Winch is a sacrifice made to durability or destruction in return for utility, utility heavy badly needed. Heavy as a melee class doesnā€™t work without a gapcloser because heā€™s too slow, this gives half of heavies loadout a chance to work.

They still risk plenty damage by the sheer virtue of I still need you within ~15 meters of me when the average gun on classes that arenā€™t heavy works comfortably at up to 30, and the hook is still victim-sided as the victim regains control first.

hushed root
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Make it so we can progress previous Battle Passes like Halo Infinite.

sharp pollen
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there needs to be grenade indicators

surreal meadow
stray rampart
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Please fix barrel physics. It's way too much rng at the moment and not to mention some of the barrel throws are outright buggy!

cosmic narwhal
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I am begging anyone reading this, please make spectator mode be able to phase through walls. I am in pain, and stuck between two fallen walls and the floor for 25 seconds šŸ˜­

haughty niche
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  1. revert dash nerf.
  2. healingbeam was fine but multiple healbeams shouldn't be able to target the same person.
  3. nerf charge dmg, increase knockback
  4. readd mesh shield quick melee.
  5. add new techs or ways to express skill on sword ( make them rly hard to do even if for just a tiny advantage- maybe readd gadget swapping and make it a very hard timing thing or something)
  6. nerf winch range
  7. rpg should do a bit less dmg(like 120 )
  8. explosive mines should trigger when im standing on it not when im 5miles away
  9. glitchtrap range should be decreased
  10. fix gateway glitch (when u cant throw it)
  11. throwing knives should be a more skill needy weapon rn its left click spam , i feel like right click doesn't rly have any use
quiet quarry
# smoky gust the little extra time the winched player gets is not enough to really do anythin...

I don't agree with your take

The moment you get hit by winch you lose the matchup. The fight shouldn't start after you get winched as that means you already got outplayed. You can hide behind cover, use gadgets, or throw something in front of you so it winches that instead. And even if you weren't able to react, after dying once, one knows which player has winch and should keep that in mind to counter it

eager vine
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Thank you Embark for putting in the time for testing the game and not rushing and delivering half-baked updates, we want quality also and no regression. āœŒļø
Enjoy your summer too!

restive sphinx
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-> make a test server so people can playtest changes.

lapis oriole
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Can we have this with a dope poncho šŸ„ŗ (and BF1 German flamethrower)

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magic wing
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I would still really love to see a scaling percentage of cash lost.

Not losing money after your first cashout, and not losing some of the 5k you have banked after getting consistently wiped by the top team in the lobby objectively feels better. Third parties will always be an issue but not losing your cash makes that palatable.

However for teams that are in first or second, they should still be worried about wiping. I would love to see a scaling percentage, for example:

All cash below 10k cannot be lost

If you have 10k-15k cash 15% gets lost on a wipe
If you have 15k - 20k cash then 20% gets lost on a wipe
If you have 20-25K then 25%
And 25k and up you would lose the original 30% on a wipe.

I feel like this would strike a great balance between bottom teams not getting completely stomped and ending with no cash, but keeping the top teams cautious and having to think about their engagements

distant fossil
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glitch mines need a shorter aoe

short crater
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  1. Nerf that Sniper plsss itā€˜s too op.
  2. Nerf dash!
  3. Nerf Winch Claw and increase the range!
    4.Increase the range of the scan granate
  4. Nothing. The Game is still goated
timber portal
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Please nerf dash and sword it's so annoying

velvet olive
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Hey @rare spear, just wanted to bring up a scenario where this could be interpreted differently. If we had team wipe penalties + initial 30% gained on insert, I think it would be a pretty bad combo. That scenario would mean, let's say the 10k cashout is put in by another team, they get 3k. you succesfully defend it, but team wipe right after. Obviously this would depend on what # you guys think about going with, but lets just say you lose 15% of the 7k you got, plus 2k for kills, you would be at 7.65k, while the team that inserted it would be at about 5k (saying they got 2k from kills). This difference would definitely feel very undermining for the work that you put into a cashout, just to take it AND defend it. I would say if the Team wipes were added back, they need to balance around the percentage of the cash out gained when inserting the vault.

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broken geyser
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Reduce the Lewis gun recoil its pretty much unplayable especially at longer ranges

stray thunder
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We should have been able to let you know how we want WT to be in the form you had us fill out šŸ˜­

vapid fable
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PLEASE just put the game back to how it was at launch in Dec 2023, I am BEGGING.
I stopped playing at the start of season 3, I was losing faith mid season 2, so I'm not a candidate for that form... But for the love of all that is holy PLEASE return the game to what it was supposed to be šŸ˜­

atomic shore
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please fix eyes on contestant cards

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rapid pike
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I'd like to see more Cups have different rules for World Tour. Makes them more distinct and interesting

cursive lotus
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Wizard outfit

cerulean birch
pseudo latch
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  • Fix Bow hitreg so my arrows arenā€™t duds at close range
  • Give FCAR an identity again, lower its fire rate and up its damage so its a proper DMR and not an AKM sidegrade
  • Fix Revolver hitreg so my shots arenā€™t phasing through people.
  • Give M60 a purpose. Either tighten its hipfire and up its firerate so it can be used at close ranges effectively or increase its minimum damage so you can actually hurt people past 30.
  • Give Lewis its old recoil back. Not S2 recoil, S1 recoil. Itā€™s damage is comparable to mediums guns, itā€™s recoil should be to.
  • Fix KS23 hitreg so we arenā€™t firing blanks half the time
  • Increase MGL splash radius and/or make grenades detonate on enemy impact so the gun doesnā€™t demand a physics degree to be D-tier on its best days
  • Fix Flamer hitreg and give it something it does better than the SA12. Range, damage, better afterburn, something Iā€™m begging here.

Also Day 130 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

  • 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
  • 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
  • Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, youā€™re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
  • bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
    • significant damage to structures and players
    • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
    • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
    • its a goddamn minigun
  • - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
  • - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no ā€œpocket minigunā€ strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
  • - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

Patch day Eve! Apparently itā€™s gonna be a small one but I hope thereā€™s something fun in it!

glacial knot
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@pearl kiln @rare spear stop listen to those kids, light class doest resist much damage and fire, light class is one shot by mines the only way to survive as light is evasive dash and you increase the cool down every update what the fuck are you doing , it really sucks

clever charm
polar frigate
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To everyone not enjoying terminal attack this survey is probably the closest we will get to having embark listen just sayin

patent girder
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Feedback survey is good keep doing those good idea šŸ‘

polar ermine
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Instead of depositing a flat 30% of vault value at point of insertion the cashouts should 'tick'. the 500 per kill is fine, maybe 400 or 300 but certinaly not what it was before becuase it was basically pointless cash. The first vault spawn logic was a great addition, do not change it, if anything work on it to make it better to de-incentivise people running further to 3rd party. Spawn logic is still busted though, I got clips of teams spawning behind my team not 5 seconds after we spawn essentially putting them in a massive advantages position as we (and them) attack the cashout near us. As for the 'ticking' for cashouts, if you really want to stop players going for 3rd parties and instead going for vaults then make them 'tick' through the cash, 10k for example ticks 5 times, 2k each, 15k ticks 3 times and 22k ticks twice, anyone going for a 3rd party will have no choice but to get in and steal as fast as possible rather than waiting for 2 teams to mop each other up and going in to steal in the last 15 seconds as it would be worth almost nothing unless it was a higher value vault but the 30% penalty has to come back, otherwise it doesn't matter, maybe make it 15% instead. I personally dont think people should have to do maths inside an fps game so maybe better visuals indicating to people what -30/15% would do to their total cash should they wipe.

tawny oriole
tight verge
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Please please please for the love of God buff dagger. 300 hours on the weapon and it just keeps getting nerfed. I know pretty much every single good dagger player in the game personally, if you want our opinions on properly balancing the dagger with the other mele weapons just dm me or something and I can send you all of their discords. I just wanna be able to play my favorite weapon and actually compete at an even level against other players. Dagger just keeps getting directly or indirectly nerfed over and over again and itā€™s been the worst weapon in the game this whole time! Most recently the dash nerf really hurt dagger. Please embark hear my cry

tranquil bear
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Dash definitely needed to be nerfed they already have 3 charges just stop wasting them. To whoever above that say mines need less range is just wrong they already donā€™t have much and I donā€™t even use them. Lewis gun could use a slight buff as someone said above the s1 recoil would be great

regal salmon
jovial socket
vernal swallow
frozen ridge
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I wish that there was a way to make the winner music change to your liking, I would very much like the round end sound to be s1 personally, but people as a reward for playing in each season can get the ending round music sound the way they would like.
i.e. if i wanted for the round end sound to be S2 during season 3, there is an option for it

silent fog
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Nerf the winch claw please. In it's current state it's just unbalanced

daring ravine
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Please add full keyboard and mouse support to consoles, or make it console only cross play

ancient ocean
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30% of vault inserted into active cash out should be given to team actively holding the cash out

The survey asked a question sayingā€¦ Have you felt the game was unwinnable due to 30% of the cashout being awarded to team depositing cash.

This change would eliminate this scenario being taken advantage of by an oppressive team. There has been several times where I noticed if I deposit vault 6 into the cashout currently holding vault 5 I would win guaranteed. This change would fix that

PS I second @forest jasper point #1 he wrote it a few post below this

haughty niche
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  1. revert dash nerf.
  2. healingbeam was fine but multiple healbeams shouldn't be able to target the same person.
  3. nerf charge dmg, increase knockback
  4. readd mesh shield quick melee.
  5. add new techs or ways to express skill on sword ( make them rly hard to do even if for just a tiny advantage- maybe readd gadget swapping and make it a very hard timing thing or something)
  6. nerf winch range
  7. rpg should do a bit less dmg(like 120 )
  8. explosive mines should trigger when im standing on it not when im 5miles away
  9. glitchtrap range should be decreased
  10. fix gateway glitch (when u cant throw it)
  11. throwing knives should be a more skill needy weapon rn its left click spam , i feel like right click doesn't rly have any use
mild wave
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This is a very, very vital but tiny change I've been waiting since beta and I hope gets added soon. Actual time being displayed when stealing a cashout or reviving a teammate, it feels pretty bad when you die just when you're about to succeed and you cannot see how many seconds you had left until you finished.

untold timber
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I filled out the the feedback form. A lot of the questions can't be answered properly because you changed too much at the same time. Could have given real feedback if each change had been done separately so we could actually tell how the one change affected gameplay.

warm compass
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buff aim assist , aim assist in this game is terrible

thick sorrel
forest jasper
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hey, I have a few suggestions here (idk how long this is going to be)

  1. What if instead of the current "+30% of total cashbox value being given to the team that inserts it" system, there was a mechanic where if a team inserts a cashbox into a cashout station and is then able to hold it for the entire duration of the cashout time without it being stolen at any time, that team gets a bonus amount of cash at the end of the cashout. This bonus would only be available to the team initiating a cash out, and would permanently disappear if the cashout is stolen at any point. This would give teams an incentive to get cashouts into stations (much like the current system) but also adds a layer of skill as the team needs to play well in order to receive the bonus (it could also act as a risk Vs reward scenario if cash loss team wipes returned)

  2. Allow for the cashouts to 'slow burn' instead of awarding all of the cash upon completion. A certain portion of cash could be awarded at certain points during the cashout process (e.g: awarding $2500 every 30 seconds on a $10,000 cashout) This could help counter the impact of third partying as stealing a cashout last second after destroying a team already weakened from a previous fight would only get them a certain percentage of the cash total.

  3. Adding some more events would be cool, as a lot of us have felt that the current event pool is beginning to go stale. Perhaps an event where plant pots rain from the sky, damaging those it hits, or maybe having guns fire paint instead, still doing damage but also slightly obscuring the vision of players who get hit more and more. It's a good opportunity to go completely bonkers and embrace some of the wackier aspects of the game.

  4. Bring back cash loss penalties. I do think they should be tuned down a small bit, like maybe 25% cash loss, but it created a great risk vs reward system.

if you've read all of this, thanks for reading lol

celest anchor
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I know that this is a little bit of a long shot, but how about having whichever team inserts the cash box gets wipe protection until that cashout station is done? This could help reduce the frustration of third parties and make the game more objective centered for the insertion stage.

drifting gorge
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THANK YOU FOR MAKING A SURVEY ILYY

quick coyote
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having a queer space/channels would be nice

earnest pilot
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We need Input based Matchmaking

proven ibex
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Thanks for listeningšŸ¤—

@velvet olive you brought up a solid point, really a good one. It must be considered while bringing back the penalties or doing any changes. percentages must be changed accordingly.

frosty moss
stray thunder
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The team that has the cashout should get the amount of cash correlating to the time they had the cashout. No extra cash for kills. But maybe 10-15% for team wipes.

marble pier
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@rare spear Doubt you'd give it a read but going in detail on the form you shared on Cashout Tournament. I think it's a step in the right direction! (for a casual player like me)

  • Removing cash deduction feels justified since losing time is already valuable, time is money itself in the game. Although I can justify a 5 - 10% deduction for wipes. A 30% deduction felt demotivating to continue and also made me feel guilty when I'm the last one to die
  • 30% reward for placing the cashbox doesn't work out for me, good intention but I felt like every other game now, I'm in a state where I can't win and spend the last two minutes wandering. I think it should be reduced or even revamped since cashboxes can be stolen just a few steps away from depositing. Personally, I'd reward money from what percentage they got it traveled from point A to B. If you took it 70% of the to Cashout before someone stole it, you earn 70% of the 30% deposit teased for example.
  • The $500 kill reward makes getting into a fight feel more worth it than a burden or distraction since it helps the team with spare cash, but this could be a reason why some matches feel unwinnable as well! But I can't be certain myself
  • The new cashbox placements have been an improvement, removed the feeling of being too far from both boxes from spawn or mid game, self explanatory
    In general I really like the game to reward that team cooperation and creativity on stealing and defending than those who know how to gun everything down, but you may disagree! Thanks!
river raptor
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Thank you very much for ask about World Tour changes: the only thing I would add is that you should really consider to decrease wipe penalization, but it SHOULD be back in game: matches have become less strategic since you remove it

woeful lagoon
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thigh highs

patent wind
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Music selector: I want to hear every seasons music. Yall cooked in s1 and now its gone to waste.

Minigun for heavy: Fast firerate high spread. get too close and you get shredded. more dps than flame thrower but harder to aim and with a little more range, just the spread at range being horrendous

Marksman rifle for medium: Im not sure which one but medium needs a marksman rifle or semi auto sniper. i want ranged medium. would pair really well with a reworked recon senses

Dual pistols for light: akimbo full auto pistols. would just be really cool

Light needs another team movement ability/alternative to gateway. gateway dominates not because its op but because its the only movement that helps the whole team for light.

burnt notch
rain epoch
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Legitimate question, why did cashout ranked have to be removed for these experimental changes?

Couldn't you just have done it exactly like you are now, by adding changes to World Tour and doing surveys, while leaving ranked cashout alone?

Also why do we have to wait for season 4 for ranked cashout? Couldn't you just ADD ranked cashout in addition to ranked TA for the remainder of the season?

You make it sound like ranked TA has to be removed.....

spark shard
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Please, Embark, why the suffering of having to play TA 9 times for a contract? Itā€™s leaving me with mental scars. Please, do not put any contract where we are required to play TA ever again.

viral snow
pseudo latch
# haughty niche 1. revert dash nerf. 2. healingbeam was fine but multiple healbeams shouldn't be...

dash nerf was fine lmao, the extra second between dashes wont kill you.
Healbeam shouldnt stack I agree.
you wanna nerf its damage and reduce its ability for follow ups? youre gonna kill it.
Are we seriously upset at being able to quick melee with mesh up?
last time sword had "skill expression" was an exploit everyone hated. How about we instead make sure other melees like spear are functioning properly
Sure but only like, 2 meters, any more and theres gonna be no point
no complaints here. 20 damage is the perfect number now
mines having a "close enough" radius of about a meter is fine honestly.
nah, glitch trap is fine as is.
yeah fix this.
more skill needy than being a projectile weapon with an effective range of 10 meters?

quiet quarry
tough merlin
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The deduction is needed. It leads to a situation where the first team can sometimes literally not lose. (before they'd run away and often wouldn't lose but you could find them still somtimes*)

It's led to more third partying because now the team in first has literally no reason not to engage the last vault. If they win it cool they win it. If they wipe they don't risk anything.

Its also changed the regular rounds more in line with the final round where suiciding sometimes is literally the play to save coins/overall save time without as many repercussions.

junior crater
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I'll have it known that I like the new changes to Cashout. The game mode feels more fun because of it. hug_friend

ancient ocean
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Can you add joining the practice range with your lobby. Seems easier than starting a private match it would be convenient:)

lament talon
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I need ranked cashout/ smt else or as a competitive player I won't play the game. I quit after TA ranked got forced

brisk magnet
tribal spoke
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Buff dual blades

haughty niche
# pseudo latch dash nerf was fine lmao, the extra second between dashes wont kill you. Healbeam...

"you wanna nerf its damage and reduce its ability for follow ups?"
i think charge should be a tool to push ppl off point and off the map rather than dmg .rn its dmg is just ridiculous

"are we seriously upset at being able to quick melee with mesh up"
what? I'm trying to get them to re add this fetaure since it got removed,to make mesh a better option for heavy.

i dont see why it would be a problem to have more skill expression on sword.

TK shines at melee ranges but the only thing ppl do is spam left click i want more implementation of the alt attack

also

  1. revert dash nerf.
  2. healingbeam was fine but multiple healbeams shouldn't be able to target the same person.
  3. nerf charge dmg, increase knockback
  4. readd mesh shield quick melee.
  5. add new techs or ways to express skill on sword ( make them rly hard to do even if for just a tiny advantage- maybe readd gadget swapping and make it a very hard timing thing or something)
  6. nerf winch range
  7. rpg should do a bit less dmg(like 120 )
  8. explosive mines should trigger when im standing on it not when im 5miles away
  9. glitchtrap range should be decreased
  10. fix gateway glitch (when u cant throw it)
  11. throwing knives should be a more skill needy weapon rn its left click spam , i feel like right click doesn't rly have any use
signal root
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Iā€™ll put it here since there wasnā€™t a little box to put it in the Cashout Survey

We NEED the -30% total cash on squad wipe back, or maybe even 20-25% also. The mode has lost much of its soul and enjoyment knowing that you either wonā€™t come off first place, or have no chance of qualifying since you can only slay out so much in a short minute or two. The steal timer changes have been feeling quite nice and l personally donā€™t mind the extended duration, but being shoved into a locker with zero hope of coming back is not healthy for the player.

Also, increase cash gained on kill from $500 to $1000, like a Bank-It coin if we wanna go this route of getting (potentially) less overall cash

fading plover
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Idk if anyone has noticed but the sniper scope is put on backwards, the big end is towards the stock, it should be towards the barrel, just wanted to mention it

thick sorrel
thick vale
brisk star
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I think winch claw is fair because it's a skill shot, not a gimme.

stray thunder
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No! We need a matchmaking system that works so we all face players on our own skill level. And a cashout that gives you a part of the win correlating to how long you held the cashout.

dull bloom
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Okay I'm gonna say it

New cashout better, I genuinely enjoy it more.

Biggest downside is reduced chance of making a last second comeback, but it's one of the things that the community complained about ("durr we played well the whole round and hurr the last team wiped and stole last second womp womp")

Biggest upside is that there's no more hiding for the last one minute of the round to keep your #1 spot safe

chrome pewter
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Cashout is so fun, even if you are solo you can have a blast.

honest abyss
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Hi. Did they buff the revolver yet? Last played 5 patches ago, revolver = plain bad.

raw moss
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Dear embark, FIX FUCKING LAYERS ON DEMAT. I was on Kyoto and tried to demat into a house but only the wall dematted, the decorative layer in front of it stayed. Please fix this, itā€™s genuinely infuriating.

cyan crane
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Make recon nades breakable, we got enough twitch streamers abusing that shit thinking they're shroud or some bs

patent girder
quiet quarry
ancient pelican
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Some ideas for specializations, weapons, and gadgets - let me know what yall think

Lights

Specializations

 Phase - can phase thru destructible environments (walls/floors etc) canā€™t take damage while phased, but will fall thru floor if standing: has two charges and a long cooldown
 
 Rewind - rewind back to previous location, a trail shows the rewind path for enemies, unsure of cooldown time, maybe same length as two dashes

Gadget

      Smoke drone - continuous smoke dispersion in a designated area, item can be destroyed

Weapon - poison dart gun - only 2-3 darts before reload, hitting an opponent will do some initial damage but then will cause them to leave a trail of poison gas for a short time, the more darts they are hit with the bigger the trail

Mediums

Specializations

    Electric zip line - extended zip line range, double zip line speed and enemies take chip damage when using it 

   Guard dog - robotic dog that can either patrol or hunt and will chase down enemies biting them to cause glitch and small damage 

Gadget 
 
    Black hole simulator - pulls objects and people towards its center, lasts a few seconds or is immediate unsure

Weapon - m1grand with bayonet - slow firing long range but does increased melee damage

Heavies

Specializations

  Super hero jump - jumps 15-20 feet in the air allowing for aerial breaching and map maneuvering, will break thru floors and walls, push objects and on the way down can damage players equal to fall distance 

   Adrenaline booster - gives movement speed of lights, long cooldown

Gadgets

Stationary wall shield - a small single sided barrier that can be shot thru by friendlies, less health that regular barrier but more than dome shield 

 Homing rocket - less damage than rpg but canā€™t quickly lock onto targets and track them 

Mortar - one or two shots per charge- long cooldown, set mortar than throw smoke signal for it to launch mortars at designated location

Weapon - saw blaster - shoots saw blades that ricochet 3 times, use alt fire to melee or shoot 3 burst shot that doesnā€™t ricochet

tough merlin
# thick sorrel He explained very detailed that Winch Claw can't be countered. You literally sai...

No hes being sarcastic. you can counter it the same way you counter getting shot by moving. it doesn't even explode if it hits near you so you don't even get chipped for 70 damage because the other guy missed.

Movement and or decision making counters most things in this game. Sure if you get hit by it and your not a light you're likely dead but that's mostly on you. you can still use jumpad and or zipline to make distance if you react quick enough. They can follow but they rarely expect it and react in time.

This games not quite a hero shooter but its close. in most hero shooter's there's abilities that are relatively hard cc. The only way to "counter" them is to bait them out with either decision making or movement or relying on team work to save you. (easy example would be ana's sleep dart in ow2).

Also there's literally counters in the game for it. They added glitch barrels, the thing that disables everything. Don't have one around you when you need it probably either a decision making or map knowledge issue. You can also use range, It has far less range then your guns.

Also a fair amount of them are either running melee or the shotgun. both of which have little to no range so they're trading off effective range for a cd ability that can result in high burst damage.

jagged cedar
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The new wt changes should be kept for rank but reverted for casual

vapid shore
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Can anyone explain why I lose at least 3 games worth of points for one loss šŸ˜ƒ

autumn bison
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Add a 5 minute penalty to the first people who rage quit quickplay games. Sick of joining a game and immediately having it ruined

crisp heart
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In cashout I think there should be a small punishment for taking risks. I think maybe you should lose $500 for dying. OR maybe a team should lose $1500 when they get wiped. Or maybe both. Idk

pseudo latch
# haughty niche "you wanna nerf its damage and reduce its ability for follow ups?" i think charg...

you want it to be a tool for ring-outs in a game where theres like, nowhere to ring-out people? do you understand how niche youd make it if all it really did was bump people around as they shot you to death.
I wasnt even aware it was removed, and frankly, it really doesnt change a lot, but yeah sure add it back lmao.
because last time it had a bunch of skill expression people fuckin hated it. It has plenty now, leave it alone and fix shit that actually needs it.
Yeah the alt attack is kinda bad compared to the primary but theres not a lot of ways to make it better without it becoming busted, and if you make the primary weak again theyre just gonna go back to being obsolete.

chrome pewter
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Make a medium & heavy only playlist please

feral mirage
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No question about ranked TA?

tame kettle
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Damn that was a tough survey for on the fence people LOL. to add to any discussion about it, I'll say that it's tough to separate the Light Meta from these changes. Both the increased kill reward and the bonus on depositing buffs lights much more than other classes, given their lethality and mobility.

If these changes were made in s2 with the HMM HHM meta, it would be a different story

mortal ridge
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The changes to Cashout have done absolutely nothing to reduce third partying. You guys are insane if you think changing the money values around is gonna change how this mode is played. Honestly, I'm convinced you guys don't even play your own game at this point

The way to play cashout properly is to stagger the cashouts, take the one closest to finishing, and then move to the other Cashout. In doing so, you third party every engagement. This is still how the mode is played, and it is how the mode will continue to be played, that's just how it is.

All you guys have done by changing the money values and removing team wipe penalties is further incentivise third partying, because you can just take all of the cashouts by rotating third parties and make it mathematically impossible for the 3rd and 4th place teams to qualify.

Let's put this into perspective. You're in 4th place with $4,000. The 1st place team just doubled the last Cashout and it's worth $30,000. 1st and 2nd place team have at least $40,000 at this point, so even if you did take the money, you'd be guaranteed a loss unless you kill the ENTIRE lobby multiple times over. I don't think I need to elaborate on how fucking stupid that is.

You guys have an amazing game here, but you're making some really weird decisions and it's confusing all of us, especially the dedicated players who've been here since release. Fix your game embark, I have faith in you

kind juniper
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Why can't terminal attack just be the 3rd round in a tournament (with 5 players)?

Edit: I'm just causul player with alittle under 100 hours, take my opinion with a grain of salt. šŸ˜­ šŸ™

But still someone tell me why this is a bad idea.

grizzled hornet
haughty niche
# pseudo latch you want it to be a tool for ring-outs in a game where theres like, nowhere to r...

i stand by what i say about charge .when i mean nerf dmg i think about 50/hit
ask BaliseTV if it changes a lot.
ppl will Always hate what they get killed by. but more skill expression makes the weapon more fun (i dont get why gadget swapping was removed at all)
TK should be a weapon only for the the otps of otps the best of the best .i think there is plenty of things they can experiment with to make TK better

fervent bay
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MORE CONTESTANT SLOTS IM BEGGING PLS PLS PLS I WANT TO BUY MORE COSMETICS BUT MY SLOTS ARE FULL PLS

night vortex
long burrow
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Jesus christ almighty, why in the bloody hell are there matchmaking bans in WT when a teammate already quits? I don't wanna play down a man AND get punished for trying to find a new team. Absolutely ridiculous system.

barren pelican
iron bough
unreal fossil
# mortal ridge The changes to Cashout have done absolutely nothing to reduce third partying. Yo...

I see your points here, but I also see the direction where they're trying to go: rewarding teams that play the objectives all the way through and/or dominate fights.

You could very well PTFO and win most gunfights yet lose to some random teams with very negative K/D that simply got lucky steals. More rewards per kill/30% reward upon depositing the vault kinda mitigates that, but yes indeed, there will always be third partying anyway. You could make it so that the defending teams gets its specs/ammo filled up instantly when wiping teams... but that would probably cause other problems.

I think they may have gone too far by removing team wipe penalties, it was part of the thrill of these games to care about survivability, and it did make it so that you could turn games around.

fickle hawk
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Can we buff the model just a TINY bit I think that reload animation needs a change I get itā€™s supposed to be punishing if you donā€™t hit those first shots but I feel I should be able to reload a little quicker when Im in a situation where Iā€™m pressed for time especially against multiple opponents and I have to wait for my first shell to reload when itā€™s not empty for as long as I do I it just feels like Iā€™m getting outgunned might just be a me problem but I feel it a lot going against lights

pseudo latch
# haughty niche i stand by what i say about charge .when i mean nerf dmg i think about 50/hit as...

I donā€™t need to ask Balise to make opinions for me. 50 a hit would gut its efficacy as a close range punish, which is half the point. You either up the knockback or reduce the damage (and reduce it slightly, not by 80 damage)

Gadget swapping and animation cancels are removed because it allowed you to circumvent the limitations of the weapon, which you werenā€™t supposed to do.

Theres a large difference between ā€œgood if you learn itā€ and ā€œbad even if youā€™re good at itā€. Sniper is good if you learn it. MGL is bad no matter how good you are at it. Knowing the difference and what changing what does is important, so keep that in mind when brainstorming ideas for TK changes.

wind gulch
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Game fun. I think more WT cups with more different rulesets will help us find the one true ruleset. I don't think the Perfect Cashout exists on the line between pre and post 3.6.0, it might be 90Ā° to the left and up a bit. Let's make a bigger net and hope we catch it.

grim patrol
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Reduce number of rounds in ranked to be equal to casual.

brisk star
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Molotov Skin for the pyro grenade please.

weak ore
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make a feature pls where if u play against or with a cheater and they get banned you get ur points back u lost. It's frustrating playing against a cheater and losing everything, no option to surrender early and no refund

sharp belfry
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Give us a charm that counts the number of actions taken against players we reported

clever hawk
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Teammate never even enters the lobby = leave = 10min suspension. Fantastic video game.

fossil hawk
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why is anti aliasing forced, it gives everything this horrendous after-image and when looking at people moving, who are really far away, they are literally just blurs.

surreal meadow
stray yarrow
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I think that the changes made to world tour would work great for a casual version, but not for world tour OR a competitive cashout mode in the future. Here are my opinions:

  • Removal of cash penalty on team wipe was a mistake. There is no longer a penalty for playing bad or taking risky engagements. The team in first place near the end of rounds are encouraged to continue to fight cashouts because they can. I believe this change makes third-party situations more common.
  • Upping the kill reward was good, eliminating opponents should be rewarded and previously the reward felt too little. I would like to see teams that deal significant damage to an opponent to be rewarded even if another team deals the final piece of damage, like a $200 assist bonus.
  • The new vault spawning logic is excellent, it usually feels like 3v3 x 3v3 now instead of 3v3v3 x 3 like it often used to.
  • I believe the 30% cashbox being given to teams immediately on cashbox insertion is not great. It encourages teams to have a light run off with the cashbox to insert it instead of playing as a team, and even if you are waiting at a cashout or in the way of a team moving to a cashout, if they slip by you for one moment they recieve the bonus. I would personally like to see a percentage of the cash box rewarded to the team after a certain percentage of the cashout timer. You could keep the 30% cash values; reward 30% of a cashout to a team if they own the cashout after 30% of the timer. This encourages teams to deposit the cashout AND be together at that time to not have it immediately stolen. It also encourages teams to attack different cashouts at different times instead of whichever cashout has a lower/higher time remaining as there are now two different stages. Additionally, third-party situations may decrease (at least in competent lobbies) as players are encouraged not to have long drawn out 3 team fights. I think this mechanic should at least be played with for one of the world tour stages.
night vortex
warm compass
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crying babies : nerf everything šŸ˜‚

potent solar
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yo good for you guys for the twitch streams last week, communicating the changes, and putting up the survey. I still don't agree with the dash nerf (pretty unfun now) and team wipes but this is a great direction you're going in as you continue to improve things

timid island
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There needs to be a cash penalty for dying. Rn 3 kills and 3 deaths is $1500 for you and $500 for each other team, resulting in a $1000 gain over other teams.

Plugging vault giving 30% of the money is good, but that 30% should not be taken from the cashout itself OR have the cashout give a certain amount of money after a minute, and the rest of the money after the 2 minutes.

Make vaults open immediately or make opening the vault worth a little more.

Team wipe should take 20-25% of your teamā€™s money, with each playerā€™s death also having a small penalty.

Make cash values easy to work with mathematically. Multiples of 5,000 or something.

I felt that the survey didnā€™t allow me to express my opinions most effectively.

ashen stirrup
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Day 4 of posting my feedback for better coverage

Hi yall I just want to say my friends and I love the new cashout changes and hope the developers stick to the no wipe penalty change since it promotes less toxicity, more positivity/support and more teamplay. Thank you for running a survey on the new changes and I look forward to seeing more of them in the future! Any changes that support better teamplay and overall strategy are always gonna be awesome in my book. It's great to see more transparency with us as the fans. Yall should consider announcing future plans and changes that are coming to the game in advance to generate more hype and discussion. This makes the community feels more inclusive giving us all more to speak constructively on. More surveys, more roadmaps, and more open discussion please! The feedback tab is here for you guys to help make us feel heard so don't be afraid to be more open with us about the thought process that goes into changes in detail. Keep up the great work Embark! Thank you for bringing us new fundamental changes that promote more teamplay and constructive gameplay. Haters and toxic players can go play something else If they have nothing constructive to add. šŸ™‚

drowsy vector
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I was in doubt if I would like the wipe penalty changes, but now Iā€™m convinced itā€™s a good change. Makes the game way more fun overall, and especially when solo Qā€™ing it takes away a lot of the frustrations I previously had with randoms. And for me it doesnā€™t change much if I get a penalty or not, but for the lower bracket teams especially it gives them a chance to fight for the win as well. Remember folks, itā€™s not the top players that get hurt by wipe loss, mostly the less skilled players. I actually liked all the changes from last week, been grinding my ass off in WT! šŸ™Œ

delicate spear
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honestly, a feature to simply change between pants being tucked or untucked into shoes would be nice for some fit ideas (or to even change the way the pants tuck)

grim patrol
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Reduce number of rounds in ranked to be equal to casual.

stray yarrow
# stray yarrow I think that the changes made to world tour would work great for a casual versio...

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One of the main arguments I've heard AGAINST "procedural cashouts" is that it would lose the mode's identity of last-second steals to win the game. With this implementation there would still be that opportunity. There would be two last-second steal opportunities, just one for a lesser value

  • IMO WT finals should be 3 cashouts to win instead of 2

Feedback not related to WT:

  • TA health changes per class is great. IMO I think there should be a further increase for M/H
  • Changes made to dash and grapple are great to balance out light's specs
  • Suggestion for new light spec: footprint tracker, sacrifice mobility specs to be able to track down people - like the last member of a team to get the wipe or stop a revive
  • Changes to medium's healing beam I think were a good idea but I instead think it should be nerfed by implementing a healing rate ramp-up after a second of not taking damage, similar to TF2. This would make the spec highly effective in resetting the team's health after a fight but would not make one player's effective health massively increase while under active fire. It would encourage healers to fight instead of heal during an engagement. It would also encourage 2 medium teams to diversify specs instead of the "raid boss" heavy strat
  • another limited time mode like wild west and steal the spotlight
  • More casual modes. Suggestion: capture the flag; 5v5 (7v7?) teams spawn on opposite sides of a map, a vault deep into both spawns, and cashout stations mildly into the spawn area. Objectives are color-coded so you need to get the vault deep into enemy spawn and get it back to the cashout on your side. Cashboxes despawn some time after opened. Stealing cancels the cashout. Complete 3 cashouts to win, the time a cashout takes reduces either as the match goes on or for each unsuccessful cashout. Possibly, coin respawns could be turned off for a team with an active cashout (you can still revive) (maybe this could be a LTM like TA was)
wheat ibex
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How do you devs manage this
A glitch that has been in the game for months that you claimed you fixed is STILL here
And its even worse now
Atleast before if you died you'd regain the ability to use your gadgets
But now
Youre basically stuck with your weapon and nothing else for the match
My god do something right for once

polar shell
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Best update ever! Now if you could just delete Terminal Attack the game would be perfect

olive shell
drifting acorn
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Custom game list

you can join other peopleā€™s custom games, or make your own
you can change the settings if youā€™d like, changing game events or change the roles allowed, or change the weapons allowed, or change the maps
you can change the setting of the match, public or private
(PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO THIS)

real scroll
#

losing rs against a team that is 62000 rs ahead of us and the game was close is actually insane

surreal meadow
clever hawk
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If your game canā€™t handle something as fundamental as loading players into a match, donā€™t give me a fucking matchmaking penalty for leaving.

peak mesa
#

Give the ability to change soundtracks from different seasons šŸŽµ šŸŽµ šŸŽµ

stray yarrow
# stray yarrow ran out of characters One of the main arguments I've heard AGAINST "procedural c...

Weapon suggestions:
(Just based on things i thought were cool, no further thoughts)

  • Deal damage with pistol or marksman rifle is currently only light weapons and medium revolver right?

  • Heavy should get a desert eagle, high inaccuracy but high damage at close range and a quickish reload

  • and also a new marksman rifle somewhere in M/H (like .50 cal for heavy, long reload every shot but big burst damage over range) to help balance out those genres of weapons

  • A cape gun for medium would be cool, maybe the rifle part could count as marksman rifle damage

  • Vector smg would be cool for medium, very precise but not long range and low damage per reload with a moderate reload speed

  • one of those really tiny pistols would be funny, maybe as a v9s skin or something

  • bond arms double action derringer would be cool

ancient ocean
#

BALANCE TEAM NEEDS TO SEE THIS.

Also people who ask for nerfs, for example everyone saying nerf winch need to see this.

YOU SHOULD NERF OVERPOWERED THINGS BY BUFFING ITS COUNTER!!

The winch claw for exampleā€¦ take that useless riot shield and make it so that canā€™t get winched when blocked. Or dual blades can reflect and effectively null winches effects or even parry that bitch and stagger the heavy.
BOOM riot shield and dual blades received small buff which makes them extremely good against an oppressive winch claw.

Nothing in that example breaks the game it essentially buffed two trash weapons and slightly nerfed winch without even touching winch claw.

Do that for other overpowered weapons like throwing knives and the model and BOOM you donā€™t nerf anything so everything is still good but you situationally buff a counter AND THEN YOU HAVE A GOOD ROCK PAPER SCISSORS GAME WHICH IS WHAT WE ALL LIKED IN SEASON 1 instead of this everything got nerfed to trash bs game

This solution barely changes anything about the game which is good but it gives more utility to items which donā€™t get used. Mad simple

PERFECT EXAMPLE @grizzled kestrel
Literally just buff smoke grenade and any smoke things by like making it stick to players. Stick that baby to a flame heavy and that guy useless for a little until he like hits a jump pad and the smoke clears from that or something

thick vale
pseudo latch
velvet nexus
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literally just loaded into a game of powershift as it was ending

grizzled kestrel
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nerf the flamethrower

sonic raft
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Teams should not be able to triple healing beam.

distant fossil
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still suspended after 2 teammates quit and screen was confirmed i wouldnt get penalty TRASH ASS SYSTEM

burnt notch
haughty bay
#

Only I can fix this game

zealous pulsar
quick coyote
delicate vale
night vortex
rose nacelle
#

Can y'all balance the matchmaking? This wasn't fun or fair at all.

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static wolf
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we need to lose money on wipe, we need to get plug money and money for cashout needs to be full amount. 500 is good for kills. no wipe penalty and more money for kills made people play stupid and tdm

distant sluice
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yea me too

final haven
#

fix the no vibration glitch on some games in vegas

night glen
#

All of these weird Overwatch-style 'powers' really make this not a first-person shooter. I like the concept of this game but a more simplistic approach to player loadouts would be better. And stun is still the worst addition to this game.

grim patrol
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Reduce number of rounds in ranked to be equal to casual.

round sage
viral prism
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Can people please get a bigger ban than 10 mins after leaving a ranked game, I just lost due to this and even after coming top of the team and having a teammate leave I end up losing 800rs can we either A: fix this issue because I do not believe it is fair or B: give people a WAY bigger penalty if they leave a ranked game. This has happened to me about 15 times this season and is EXTREMELY killing my motivation and mood when playing. Thank you

terse oxide
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Y'all gotta nerf throwing knives. It's giving lights undeserved ego

hallow cargo
#

nerf the model shotgun to the ground and ill start playing again, light is unplayable in ranked its boring af and talentless weapon

sonic spoke
#

Servers are real;ly bad right now. no fun today

quick coyote
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revert the dash nerf. It feels awful.

jagged cedar
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revert the dash nerf, increase riot shield range, tighten spread of dual blade deflect, rework winch claw, nerf rpg

quick coyote
reef heart
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If a teammate ragequits from ranked TA, add the ability to forfeit or something and lose less/no RS

Had a teammate ragequit right after the match cancel thing and was forced to lose 900RS because of it, This has happened multiple games now and I've gone from 17k (high silver) rank to 12k (almost bronze) even when im topfragging the leaderboard almost every game

ancient ocean
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Does everyone else in this chat feel like when they post a game suggestion itā€™s like the best idea ever or just me??

Itā€™s unfortunate that some people post some dumb ass shit in hereā€¦ but that only means someone thinks that about the stuff I post

crystal umbra
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Being the guy that brings a Bow to a gunfight has a certain Ego to it and I love it.

It's the same for the throwing knives, riot shield, sword, hammer, etc.

I personally appreciate the fact that you guys are trying to make so many customizable ways to play.

That's been one of my favorite things about the game since day one. Crazy ways to play, like the nukes back in the day or now that we can run invis and shotgun

Or I can be the guy with the dash and the bow.
I can use the thermal bore and break a hole open for me to try and take some folks out with.

Bow + dash = better Hanzo

Sword + dash = better Genji

Hook + shotgun (+other abilities) = better Roadhog

Mesh + dome + hammer = better Rein

MMM with heal beams & Defib + actually useful weapons = better Mercy pocket

Invis + XP-54 = MUCH better Sombra.

Lol I could go on but fr, the customization of play style (not just cosmetics) is Legendary in this game.

I'm looking for more ways to express skills in the arenas with new gadgets and new weapons.

Hopefully we can get a cool Caribbean map (I'm Jamaican) with some kinda oceanfront? Idk, whatever map y'all make im sure it's going to be great.

haughty bay
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Yall just have bad suggestions

chrome pewter
#

We need a medium & heavy only game mode

woeful lagoon
#

femboy cosmetics x1

naive sundial
#

About cash-out.
One thing that keeps happening , and now we use as well since the recent changes is a team pulling a comeback last second only because they put the cash-box in. While it's good that there's more point in getting the sixth cash-box, even if there's only one cash-out left , it's also a bit unfair to the team that tried their best protecting the cash-out , or the team that tried to steal it (depending on the situation)
Having team wipe as a punishment might be a good thing to balance the 30% thing out ,
At least , it's worth a try
Overall the recent changes have been rather positive changes even tho it might've not seemed so at first, before team wipes were great for having a comeback , and there was always the option to sit down and watch the rest of the match when you're the first team or even the second in match end-game(playing it safe) . Now you gotta be active all of the match so you can stay as the top team , getting kills as much as possible , making sure to get the 30% for putting the cash-box in the cash-out and not let other teams put the box in,
Even in end-game it's a very bad idea to stay and camp somewhere till the match finishes just because you're the first team ,rather by doing so you make sure you lose the match , in the past cash-out version i always aimed to be the second team , never risked to be the first , didn't see the need to , now it's always best to aim for being the first team, otherwise winning won't be a guarantee . The changes makes the game mode much more fun and engaging

viral prism
elder basin
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Why are you making people play a garbage mode they hate in the circuit? Circuit should be skill based, not promote and force Terminal Attack on players that hate it

floral hedge
#

is headshot challenge for pistol and marksman a known issue?

final root
#

Game booty

hardy portal
quick coyote
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Game is unplayable since the patch. PC AA is out of control it feels like. God tier aim all of a sudden from all directions.

low palm
jovial osprey
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The RPG is the most frustrating item in this entire game, I'm fine with invisibility, I'm even fine with the winch, fine with whatever, but rolling up and decimating a heavy watching them miss so many shots and then just resort to their "I'm not good enough to win this fight let me just pull out my rpg" tactic is infuriating

novel summit
iron berry
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add a spectator mode that you can spectate your friends, would fit well with the gameshow vibes cuz viewers and stuff idk i just would like to be able to watch without having to setup a stream or somethin

like theres already three people and you can just watch

but ofc only first person of the friends so that you can't see something they can't and tell em etc

regal salmon
#

While we're experimenting with Cashout, I think the final round needs a big rework.

The game is called THE FINALS. Yet the banner round of the banner mode is a cut-down version of Quick Cash. Which is already a cut-down version of Cashout.

There's no unique rules, or graphical arena changes to acknowledge you reached THE FINALS. The cutscene is no different from winning a game of Power Shift. To call it an anticlimax is an understatement.

There should be a unique win cutscene. The area should have some visual changes to show it's the grand final, like banners or such. And the mode itself should be unique in order to sell the presitge of reaching the finals, but also have increased peril to sell that only the best can win.

Something like the blackout/tripwires and turrets mode. Atmospheric lighting, and environmental issues to contend with too. Real 'Running Man' stuff. Make it feel like an event.

I want to feel like winning THE FINALS is a big deal. Akin to a BR victory. I want to feel like just reaching it is. But right now it honestly just feels pretty meh, and the final matches themselves are usually a bit empty and underwhelming.

It's not great when the most basic and boring matches (format-wise) in the entire game are Cashout finals. It's like instead of Rainbow Road, Mario Kart had just a basic oval track at the end of the hardest cup.

naive sundial
hallow cargo
main bone
#

I think it would be cool if there was unique voice lines for when one sqaud squadwipes another

Like ā€œthis squad got wiped by this squad, insert clever punā€

It could add an element of information if youā€™re paying attention to the commentators to help locate other teams, and it doesnā€™t always have to play as to not push over the already good lines

flint jungle
#

Force Oscar to play TA with heavy until next season.

restive pelican
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One improvement needed is the final round of tournament cash out. Just 1 team wipe and they won't be back time to be able to steal the cash out.

young hamlet
#

Re: Matchmaking
Dear Embark
When I click Quick Cash, i dont want to be put onto the losing team, with an enemy cashout almost over. It's just dumb.

tropic root
#

a "King of the Hill" and "Control point" game mode would be fun and would make a better rank game mode that TA

grim patrol
#

Reduce number of rounds in ranked to be equal to casual.

woeful lagoon
#

femboy cosmetics x2

fathom glacier
#

Hey yeah this new way promotes 3rd/4th parties pretty much the entire game

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ancient pelican
# chrome pewter We need a medium & heavy only game mode

Not sure how much it would hurt Que times but a role Que might be good too, one of each for 3v3 and max only two of each for TA but it allow some mixup there since itā€™s only 5v5 and some teams might have one less of the 3 rolls

whole abyss
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After playing this update a lot recently I have to say I really like it. I think third parties are less meaningful than they used to be and it gives people less incentive to get the cashout at the very end. We are finally being rewarded for putting the cash box in and for actually holding the cashout by fragging.

left badge
#

@pearl kiln PLS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SYNCRONIZE THE TWO INDICATORS SCHOWING HOW MUCH TIME FOR A CASHOUT HAS PASSED IT ALWAYS FEELS OFF

ps love the game

olive vector
#

Why do I seem to be getting the same map 6 times in a row recently?!

rugged temple
pseudo latch
#

Model 18 is good but it didnt kill anyones dog

tribal spoke
#

The deflect on the dual blades is broken, it doesnt work

crystal umbra
#

So . . . I had a conversation yesterday with a friend about the new rules.

He is in the camp of "I hate the team wipe penalty being removed" & he also does not like the instant 30%.

When I talked to him about it his reasoning boiled down to "I don't like change".

And I feel like that's the general complaint this time around. I don't think people would have been happy unless you did what the overwhelming majority of people wanted just to get the approval from the masses.
(Since social media has Majority of peoples brains linked these days it's easy to get them happy or mad)

Back on topic, these fresh rules to the game make it more engaging because these days I gotta consider new rules. . . Other people are different, they want their strats to work all the time.

I think what I'm trying to say is, when you go through these survey responses, remember:

  1. that alot of them are kids that are playing this game because it's free.
  2. This game is competitive, so the sweats that have their "tried-and-true" strategy mixed up and taken from them, they'll be salty.
    & 3. Focus on fun like you always have, not people pleasing šŸ¤žšŸ¾
jade inlet
#

Fix the match up! Four rubies and a diamond obviously all grouping against a random mix of golds and plats is so stupid! It should NEVER HAPPEN, it's easy to put a limit on what ranks can play against others

topaz summit
#

GO EMBARK hug_friend

north arrow
#

idea for WT changes?

1st:
Team Wipe Penalties should activate during the halfway mark, team wipes will activate with a 15% hit. It raises the stakes and will stop the winning teams from just apeing without risk.

2nd:
Your team should only get the money they earn from a cashout. Meaning as my team holds the cashout, we get the money over time but instantly to our teams ā€œaccountā€. That way it is truly distributing the money based on how long you are defending it. It would feel better on a skill level, in my opinion. The difference would be you get an extra $1000 for either putting in the cashout OR being the last team to hold the cashout till completion.

3rd:
This is the most wacky idea butā€¦. Third or fourth parties should have their cooldown times INCREASED or have a slight nerf to their arsenal if they step in a certain vicinity with two other teams already fighting. This should include an indicator on your screen that will let you know when you have your debuff activated. This will only activate if you are in the vicinity for (X) amount of time.

low palm
# north arrow idea for WT changes? 1st: Team Wipe Penalties should activate during the halfwa...

I've heard the second point a lot, but really not a fan. I think that completely negates last second steals, like completely. Even stealing a 22k with like 30 seconds to spare would get you like 7k, I'm a big fan of the last person to hold it getting the most value, as it encourages exciting gameplay. But i might be a minority opinion cuz i also love that the new update makes playing around third/fourth parties more common

woeful lagoon
#

femboy cosmetics x3

uneven dagger
#

make lights models a foot shorter without changing their hitbox

cosmic cloud
#

About the World Tour rule changes, in general:

If you are one of the two top/best teams in the match, then the rule changes will be highly beneficial for you. Youā€™ll get more cash, games are less stressful, and you will cement your place in 1st or 2nd easily. This was my experience for the most part.

If you are the underdogs of the match, then the rule changes can make the game feel unwinnable at times and increase the probability of a no-win scenario.

If the game has at least three equally skilled teams (almost never happens in WT), then sometimes the only thing deciding if you win or not is if another team chooses to contest your objective, or that you get a closer spawn to a vault. Without team wipe cash penalties, if in 3rd place (say trailing behind by $4K), with no cashouts in play, there is no reasonable way to take 2nd place.

So, for me, who exclusively solo queues and normally makes it to the final round, I like these changes. The rule changes help me more than not. However, if youā€™re the underdog of the match, the favorability of the rule changes are mixed. The 30% instant deposit bonus and the lack of team wipe penalty can either help you or place you in a no-win scenario. Eliminations alone may not be worth enough to make a comeback if you are slightly behind.

crystal umbra
#

New game event idea:

Bouncing bullets...

Think about it...

icy charm
#

add priority to interacting with certain objects. example of this, when try to get revive, it prioritizes picking up barricade over interacting with the statue, even when the statue is in the middle of your reticle

young hamlet
real scroll
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rpg should do 50 damage if it does not hit you directly. It does way to much damage and takes 0 skill

cerulean birch
left bluff
#

It's funny third partying was the main issue & they managed to make it worse. Especially on top of how quickly the score can increase by just racking up eliminations now the kill reward is increased & dont lose anything for wiping. One or the other is nice but not both at same time. Id prefer the increase kill reward. Since there definitely needs to be some sort of penalty for dying as a team. Stealing the cashout & holding it as long as possible should be core focus. Otherwise, basically they can just thirdparty the vault to clean up the teams & then easily get that 30% by having a light deposit it. Then they theoretically don't even have to worry about defending it cause they could just retake it in the last few moments when it really matters, since you aren't really rewarded for stealing midway. Which is real fun when your team DCs & leaves you alone, because of such. Ofcourse they would, when putting in the effort to steal just to have it taken last second & getting nothing to really show for it.

Suggestion Summary:

ā€¢ The amount earned is based on how much you hold the cashout for.

ā€¢ Keep the kill reward & bring back team wipe penalty.

ā€¢Instead of a static cashout steal time; make it based on the character type. Lights should be able to steal faster which would incentivize them being less behind the scenes so to speak. While heavy should take longer since they can tank more of that damage.

shell raven
#

smgs, especially the xp54, are overperforming at longer ranges while also dominating close quarters, making them feel like just better versions of the medium assault rifles. smgs should be the strongest at closer ranges, but its easier to hit medium to long range shots with smgs than the assault rifles

grim patrol
#

Reduce number of rounds in ranked to be equal to casual.

jagged plover
#

everyone quits in ranked terminal attack

tribal spoke
#

Fun fact, close range, long range, medium range, you can be aiming directly dead center on a enemy and the dual blades still fail to reflect even 1% of the damage back to the enemy, this needs to be fixed

eternal crag
#

are snipers meant to be able to one shot from the other side of the map? my favorite mode is power shift but it's been miserable recently as it's almost always only snipers.

peak pine
thick sorrel
#

No Skill but High reward? Please balance!

RPG:

  • less dmg 120?, more spread at hipfire, slower weapon swap
    Charge & Slam:
  • less damage per hit, add start animation and/or "roar" soundcue to make Players aware something big is coming, to allow dodging - right now it's instant
    Winch Claw:
  • allow counterplay, remove stun effect, make it overall milliseconds slower (initial, execution, pull) so Victims are not free kills
    Explosive Mines:
  • louder soundcue, max. 1 Mine at a time or lower damage
    Stun Gun:
  • HOLD-Rework: Season 1 Stun for 3s?, but the User need to hold it and can't attack at the same time - this makes it a Team-Gadget instead of free Light kills
    Throwing Knives:
  • increase the delay betwen first and second projectile, like it was before Patch 2.10
    Sniper:
  • bulletdrop, no hitscan/less velocity - would only effect long ranges - Make Powershift enjoyable again!
    Model 1887:
  • a bit more spread/sway at hipfire, like you did with SH1900, but with ADS keep it like now - midrange damage is crazy for a shotgun gamewise; real life not I know...
    Healing Beam
  • slightly slower heal rate, no heal stacking
eager ivy
#

buff heavies weapons nerf the gadgets heavy weapons bad

bright wraith
#

should be choice to surrender button if you are alone or bad matchmaking

hidden sparrow
#

fix no audio/visual indicator when stealing cashout

quick coyote
coarse oar
#

less mines so people can blindly run forward without penalty, I like it

tribal spoke
#

Hoping for a dual blades buff/fix tommorow šŸ™

patent wind
#

max mines 2 but increase cooldown and increase arm time so they cant place mines behind them as they run. mines shouldnt be used to run theyre supposed to be a setup ability. you set up ahead of time.

barricade is the same. barricade should build itself up. instant cover is op. it should be a setup ability not instant cover thats what goo is for

midnight pike
#

I want the option to pick maps, especially for casual play. I get the same two maps I'd like to play a variety.

lusty mauve
#

I have a game change that would make playing a lot easier for many players, it's about the key. It would be much better if the person who picks up the key could put it in the virtual bag instead of holding it in their hand, simply because I don't feel like running defenselessly across half the map myself would also be much more fair, since it would also be a 5v5 in this scenario and many would take the key instead of leaving it lying there in disgust.

worn tapir
#

Add 30% cashbox reward and keep 30% teamwipe

sonic spoke
bold fox
#

"With the wipe penalty removed, how does it feel to be team wiped right after defending a cashout successfully?"

This question specifically in the survey really got me thinking. While I agree there should be a team wipe penalty, albeit a bit less than 30%, what if for a few seconds after the cashout finishes that you defended, your team had no team wipe penalty? I dunno, just a thought I had. Gives a little breathing room to a team that manages to fend off multiple attacking teams. šŸ¤·

olive fulcrum
#

Add Taco grenade skin

quick coyote
#

No

tribal spoke
#

The dual swords deal no damage, they take forever to kill someone and any compitent player can just run away or out dps them, this should be fixed imo asap

peak moss
mossy karma
#

Winch needs to be reworked or (if you @pearl kiln guys can't balance it properly) removed from the game

Melee Heavies were doing totally fine with goo gun or slam in S2 and im saying this as S2 D2 Sledge heavy main

Winch + Sledge is a cancer combo which is very popular among noobs who still can't do shit and barely make 5 kills in a round but ruin normal people experience and make them quit the game

Here's my idea how winch claw should be reworked:
ā€¢ CD increased to 10-15 seconds
ā€¢ Reduce distance from which you can reach the rival with a hook
ā€¢ Increase the distance between the victim and those who use the Winch Claw by the time grapple animation ends
Ā° Lights are the fastest and are dragged almost as close to the Winch user as they are now
Ā° Mediums are dragged close but out of reach Sledge secondary attack
Ā° Heavies are dragged close but out of reach of Sledge primary and secondary attacks
ā€¢ Make it possible for victims to shoot and equip/prepare (but not use) gadgets during hook animation
ā€¢ Fix winch dragging players through obstacles

You might also give this reworked winch to mediums as they lack distance-breaking Specialization for melee setups

quick coyote
jagged cedar
nocturne fern
stable gull
#

Diminishing returns on defibs
As in less health returned on consecutive defibs revives or something
Anything to make triple defib less of a nuisance to play against

sonic spoke
feral shell
#

Defibs should just have a cooldown shared across the team. That way theres less value of having two medics on a team since they cant go from having 1 player left to all 3 being back almost instantly.

2 Heal beams also shouldn't be stackable on one player. Cap the heal rate at whatever it is for one heal gun.

If you're going to nerf mediums core role this much though, we MUST have some more offensive firepower to be a viable class. Other than the Model, all medium primaries are good at best. FCAR is a pea shooter and is a marginally better gun than the AKM, at best. Buff FCAR damage back to somewhere between what it was originally and is now, reduce its mag size back to 20 and give it a reasonable recoil pattern. I don't know the DPS and DPM numbers but meet somewhere in the middle on both.

Faster strafing speeds for medium would be very nice too.

sharp briar
#

They should make a non sawn off double barrel shotgun for medium

velvet nexus
#

playing the game should be added as a feature in season 4

earnest badge
#

Pancake skin for explosive mines. More riot shield skins. Why do I get UE5 crashes still sometimes and also randomly disconnected from ranked games. Thank you, that is all.

quick coyote
#

game is fucked

abstract rose
#

please nerf light

sage sapphire
#

Charge time for the stun gun. An element of charging the stun gun would balance it a bit more. IMO, I feel that the longer you charge the stun gun the longer the stun (Max of 3 secs) it would allow for more thought to be put into when it's used. Diving with the stun gun feels a bit cheap without some sort of thought or work put in.

In the end, this is just my opinion though, not definitive on how to change the game prayge

magic marten
#

@pearl kiln @rare spear @whole umbra @bright marsh some good weapon ideas for (light, medium and heavy ) light an AS vsl, pp2000 , or p90 medium m16, F2000 , or Lvoa-c heavy mg 42,PKP, or M240 also cool gadget for light would be teleport grenade

bold lintel
small vector
#

Just wanna state my opinion that the 3.6 changes aren't bad but I strongly believe team wipes should still take away money.

clear hemlock
gaunt perch
#

Fix riot shield

crystal umbra
#

I remember trying to play tank in overwatch 2, it was not the best anymore (I'm a former tank main back in OW1)

This clip has me thinking about the light class situation over here in The Finals.

The light class was a "troll pick" until season 3 dropped. . . Now all of a sudden it's OP.

Point I'm trying to get across is that even Blizzard entertainment is having a hard time balancing overwatch 2 and their community is very vocal about their issues.

I appreciate the effort and think you guys are doing well.

real scroll
#

How am I getting into games where the other team is 65000 rs ahead of us with 2 rubies. Is it really that hard to make the matchmaking so the teams have relatively similar rs. I feel like there could be a way to match the average rs of the players of both teams because the current matchmaking system just isn't even trying anymore.

modest cape
#

add a m1 grand skin for the lh1, and a fireball skin for the throwing knifes will be sick

wind haven
#

not my idea but im saying it in here, terminal shift, terminal attack but on the moving platform in power shift

nimble gale
#

HEAVY CLAW SHOULD NOT GO THROUGHT MESH SHIELD

quartz shell
#

claw shouldn't have that short reload

crystal umbra
#

Another successful day of NOT playing Terminal Attack.

zealous pulsar
# quick coyote I get kicked out of alot of the vcs on here

I am genuinely sorry to hear that but if you made a specific vc assholes could still join it and if anything it'd be more targeted. Sometimes it may just be that their team is full, but if the same person kicks you out repeatedly on different occasions i think you could talk to the mods about it

quick coyote
modest cape
atomic lava
jagged cedar
quiet frost
#

Power fists that shoots blasts of energy for the heavy build basically like the blast brawlers from killing floor 2 for the primary it could either shoot or just punch as for the secondary it could be vice versa where itā€™s punches are a singular super punch that breaks things or it could be a block like the riot shield

drowsy vector
#

Just throwing this out there. You guys made an amazing decision to delete the wipe penalty. Those who want it to return donā€™t play this game enough, or are just saying what others are saying šŸ‘. I wish we could explain it further in the survey, but hope the people are wise enough to support the latest WT changes you made. The game is in such a better state now. Less toxicity, fair and fun fights, fast paced and also the fights for top 2 are so much closer now. Cheers!

ripe seal
#

Can I have text chat please so I can say basic things like "please wipe out of coins and we're between objectives" or "don't revive"

sage sapphire
atomic lava
#

I played also high Level D1 every season and its clearly a difference. Also every top player like balise/commit is sayin this on stream and everyone of them wants the wipe penalty back as it is literally now like casual cashout. The combination of 500/kill + no wipe penalty is an absolute third party booster and a stupid change in combination. Imo all changes are okay, except of no team wipe penalty.

foggy field
#

change the ranked gamemode nobody likes this shit

gray idol
#

Hello Embark, love the game hug_friend , please consider these suggestions:

  1. Game is very heavy demanding, even on mid-end pcs. Please try to better optimize it and consider adding a super-low graphic setting to be able to have more fps. Also, Kyoto map is soooooo heavy that it is quite unplayable.
  2. Cashout: instead of giving 30% cash on start and 70% on end, consider giving cash over time, so the team is actually rewarded for being able to hold the cashout.
    Thanks
mighty cedar
#

"Its summer vacation season here" bruh we havent gotten actuall balance changes in like 6 weeks.

nocturne fern
potent solar
#

for a game event: maybe for the 3rd vault there is only one cashout as a gameshow event that has fast captures of 1-2 seconds. (or just touch it!) this could cause a bit of chaos. or maybe quick captures is just a random event. you could call it "feeding frenzy" and have bank-it style quick respawns until over. same cashout rules with $$ awarded per steal, may have to remove wipe penalty temporarily for this

in the same vein of time modulation, what about a time grenade where left click speeds up the target and right click slows it. this can be used on enemies, yourself, teammates, and vault/cashout capture timers to allow faster or slower taking. players would run faster or slower depending on the throw for a brief period. breaks aoe on impact like a fire grenade.

I would say they do not stack (ie 2 lights using it on you doesnt double the effect) and maybe modify the timers a second or two or fill at like 120 % / 80% rate (whatever seems balanced, so you can affect a steal in progress). idk thinking about it maybe it could be a heavy util.. idk which class. if you're hit with it a glitch would remove the effect. could also be a dart / mini crossbow

naive zodiac
#

Lots of complains about no team wipe penalty, so maybe all team players should loose a respawn coin after a full wipe, and if you have no more coins you could pay from team credits for a respawn? What do you think?

sharp geode
#

Please John Embark heed my call, give the revolver a small damage range buff so itā€™s not comically underpowered for the skill floor it takes to use it, itā€™ll continue to be my favorite weapon either way but itā€™s in such a wonky balancing position atm

crisp heart
#

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sage turtle
#

Is there any news regarding the forced TAA? Or an update to FSR 3.1? The game looks very blurry and it would be great If I could run it in Native without TAA. For AMD Users FSR 2.2 is not a good option.

fleet socket
#

Could y'all not add challenges based on playing certain modes anymore?

young smelt
#

Going on vacation while you have a dead game is the funniest thing

autumn sedge
#

Sledge hammer with winch is op. If you winch someone, you almost always kill them because 115 damage + 1 rpg one shots lights and mediums, and you usually have time to even do the secondary on a medium. The only thing that can counter is besides stun gun is another heavy with winch

abstract wolf
#

MAKE SURE YOU GUYS BUFF FOR XBOX PLAYER! I DONT CARE IF THAT AIM ASSIST OR BRING BACK MOUSE COMPABILITY, cause we fight pc player every single time no matter what we do still getting shit on.

if someome say "just turn off the crossplay off" it wont f-in help, i play on asia server nobody playing on console

if someone say "just play in another server", i got lag so bad make me want to against my head to the wall

dusky portal
#

OCE powershift cant find a match at all

broken geyser
#

For thr next update PLEASE REDUCE THE LEWIS GUN RECOIL, u don't even have to revert the changes JUST REDUVE THE RECOIL

steel iron
#

bring back team wipe loss now all it is are people rushing and then dying

chilly scarab
#

Big big big feedback that if it isnā€™t fixed will kill off all content creators for your game. Make it software friendly, aka, please add a system in which old matches can be reviewed or recorded, a match history page, and downloadable game videos. And if god shines light upon us, please make the private match/custom match more available to options, such as not turning in some specific events, or only having some events happening, or always having one or two events at the same time. Would be cool for some content creation for destruction, and community fun. As well as a private matches or custom matches lobby list with people who just wanna join a non public match and wanna join a discord to talk smack and have fun. The game is very competitive and by making it very self exclusive the feeling of ā€˜Iā€™ve wonā€™t it allā€™ doesnā€™t hit the same with this game, because there is a lack of reward for being the best. Also maybe a small podium before the match begins showing players with the top 3 highest stars in the game and showing stats about weaknesses and strengths, of course these stats would be too hard to measure and wonā€™t be accurate but something like that as bad as it is ā€¦it needs to be in the game asap, really a disappointment that it hasnā€™t been in the game yet or had some sort of development. This is a 250+ hour player venting. I love the game and see myself playing it in the close future, but the reasons to keep playing are dying off one by one.

twilit gate
cursive lotus
#

We need a wizard outfit also this new shop drop is rubbish

wicked heart
#

So another week without the emerald phase opened. No sense.

short crater
#

Nerf that SNIPER

thick bramble
#

No fix for tgr crashes introduced in the last update šŸ˜¢
I can't play the game, I just randomly crash. It seems that there is some scenario in the game that just makes it go ded. Even when I reconnect it crashes again immediately, but in another match it might work perfectly fine:(

ionic saddle
#

Why did I get almost no elo in a ranked match where I went 17 and 6? Everyone else on my team barely broke even or went negative yet I'm scraping by with less elo than ever. Individual performance shouldn't just be based on who plants or defuses

digital sinew
#

You guys are just some crybabies

nocturne fern
bright wraith
#

Most be a button to surrender! Wasting time alone is bad experience.

thick sorrel
#

No Skill but High reward? Please balance!

RPG:

  • less dmg 120?, more spread at hipfire, slower weapon swap
    Charge & Slam:
  • less damage per hit, add start animation and/or "roar" soundcue to make Players aware something big is coming, to allow dodging - right now it's instant
    Winch Claw:
  • allow counterplay, remove stun effect, make it overall milliseconds slower (initial, execution, pull) so Victims are not free kills
    Explosive Mines:
  • louder soundcue, max. 1 Mine at a time or lower damage
    Stun Gun:
  • HOLD-Rework: Season 1 Stun for 3s?, but the User need to hold it and can't attack at the same time - this makes it a Team-Gadget instead of free Light kills
    Throwing Knives:
  • increase the delay betwen first and second projectile, like it was before Patch 2.10
    Sniper:
  • bulletdrop, no hitscan/less velocity - would only effect long ranges - Make Powershift enjoyable again!
    Model 1887:
  • a bit more spread/sway at hipfire, like you did with SH1900, but with ADS keep it like now - midrange damage is crazy for a shotgun gamewise; real life not I know...
    Healing Beam
  • slightly slower heal rate, no heal stacking
gritty owl
#

+1 for the survey on cash out changes

mild pond
#

why can I knock over an entire AC unit with the evasive dash, but I canā€™t even budge a carriable?

torpid sky
red knot
#

give sniper a laser to see where they aim at

crisp oxide
#

TY FOR ALLOWING MESH SHIELD TO BLOCK WENCH ā¤ļø
IDK WHY but a full team of lights seems so OP especailly on kyoto. i still think throwin knives range needs to to adjusted

twilit gate
#

Nerf the grenade to do less damage

remote walrus
#

instead of nerfing the grenade, how about adding a sound que when it lands

muted spear
#

Who played the game in beta?

high lynx
#

Please region-lock mainland China CS2-style, not because of cheaters, but because of their conducts. Theyā€™re so extremely toxic, petty and non-cooperative that are worse than main-character-syndrome kids. Those who knows their ways to play on non-Chinese servers knows how to behave better and a lot of them I talked to intend to setup a good image. Those who are toxic and, without a better word, uncultured, wonā€™t ever bother scaling the GFW. What CS2 and Perfect World (CNCS matchmaking like Facit) has created is honestly the best solution possible for now, and I think Embark should take a page out of their book

unreal mulch
#

game changes are good, change team wipe loss to around 15% and i think its really good

quick coyote
#

Revert the dash nerf.

raw moss
#

Make it so if the shield on riot shield gets hit by a pyro grenade it doesnā€™t deal damage to the user of the shield, cuz getting hit by a pyro nade now is just a death sentence. Please donā€™t revert it being the weird physical object it is tho, just make it so it canā€™t deal damage to the user while on fire.

tough sapphire
#

constructive feedback

quick owl
#

why is "lmao" censored? lol

thin fulcrum
#

I joined an already running Bank It match, and my "corpse" is nowhere on the map, and also I cant spawn using space, wth

crisp coral
#

Revert the team wipe loss I really donā€™t get that at all and sometimes my game still just doesnā€™t load in the game yet I can hear the gameplay and I have to restart to join back this glitched as been in the game since the beta sort it out

rocky acorn
#

PLEASE add killcams, half of the time i cant tell if the enemies are cheating or just really good, and its not like im gonna go around reporting everyone i see for no good reason. I also feel like this will just make the experience better, if you have killcams its gonna be easier to improve at the game and see what you did wrong.

sudden trout
cursive pebble
#

Just an idea for a new update, add clans ( basically teams) that players can join and compete in tournaments and feel like eSports and also who knows, it could be a start for The Finals eSports

coral axle
#

FSR 3.1 AND FRAME GENERATION

open shore
#

MORE FMAS SKINS MANNN

worn juniper
#

Get rid of the sniper, actually just get rid of it I'm so sick of getting one shot or just rework it so it doesn't take 30000 damage.

Also fix the wrecking ball, it has so much potential to be useful but it breaks off so easily.

dusk mica
#

Input based match making would be nice. Near impossible to find matches with cross play disabled.

terse oxide
#

Just saw the leak for the new frag skin

Embark, please, make skins for things besides the AKM and frag.

Gas/sonar grenade, all of the mines, zipline, healing beam; so many things in here deserve skins before the basics get another pass.

umbral lark
#

dead anti cheat

marsh oriole
#

Add team deathmatch mode maybe? Iā€™ve seen so many people avoid objectives and just run around the map for kills

tired bough
#

remove TA from ranked, thx

hollow ingot
dense ocean
#

day 1 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

elder umbra
#

dear dev, no more holding cashout rank after release the new changes cashout rank soon , i mean like pls dont hold or close cashout rank no more after this , that make me personaly lose interest and feel theres nothing worth to grind or play in any mode for the moment (max bp , gold 1 WT , done all contract, TA ? nahh hell no thats more boring ) please after the release of that new cashout rank make it stay and keep doing the improvent in it anyways good job for the team so far the changes is great but now for real i feel worthless wanna play , imma hard grind for this game before now just wait for the cashout rank back up . LOVE YOU EMBARK hug_friend

inner coral
#

#šŸ‘‚ā”‡game-feedback Enjioy your vacation time and Thank you for your work, Embark.
please consider making World Tour team wipe penalty based on your placement on the board. (30% first, 15% 2nd, 7% 3rd, and 0% in last place).

violet elbow
#

can winch just be reworked/removed already? ripping off overwatch abilities without spending a minute to think about the balancing behind them and it just results in the most miserable and unfun specilization in the game to fight, its just a crutch for terrible melee/shotgun users and shouldve never been added, why do we continue to giving heavy more free kill confirm util?

cosmic ether
#

[stungun has entered chat]

obsidian pond
junior sigil
#

meta hasnt changed a bit since the launch of season 1, the only difference is nerf of nukes, which was the best finals update to this point. team compositions are still MMHor MHH, weapons used by heavys and mediums are still tha same weapons that were meta in s1 (heavy slightly change, in meta each season 2 out of 3 weapons: lewis, m60, sa1216), gadgets used by mediums and heavys didnt change except for c4 with the nukes nerf. specializations didnt change much, because core of the team are still heal beam and mesh shield. it feels like we have gazilion weapons that are unusable or bad or super situational. and few weapons that are usable just get worse from time to time. right now there are no more weapons in the game that i enjoy paying with. so i decided to finally move on. i wanted to thank developers for unique and unforgettable experience i wish the game the best, but i can no longer enjoy it.

iron bough
#

It's official, they wanted guinea pigs (new and casual players) to fill the World Tour queue to test if the cash out changes are any good while keeping the event element behind that garbage mode.

Sadly for them, that's just making people quit the game, like me.

Sorry, but any content behind World Tour doesn't exist for me.

hushed quiver
#

[Throwing knives]
please let us hold the alternative fire (right click), at least for a moderate time like max. 5 sec, there is no reason for it not to have that

final solar
#

PLS DO SOMETHING ABOUT TURRETS, it's soooooo annoying

stable path
plush fjord
abstract wolf
#

MAKE SURE YOU GUYS BUFF FOR XBOX PLAYER IN THE NEXT PATCH!

I DONT CARE IF THAT AIM ASSIST OR BRING BACK MOUSE COMPABILITY, cause we fight pc player every single time no matter what we do still getting shit on.

if someome say "just turn off the crossplay off" it wont f-in help, i play on asia server nobody playing on console

if someone say "just play in another server", i got lag so bad make me want to against my head to the wall

@lusty cloud im just sayin, that's why this game dead long time ago especially in console, they leaving the game because they are getting the same problem

and if you think buying a pc will solve the problem, then what's wrong with your brain šŸ¤£, if everyone on this game can afford a brand new pc with all the set up stuff then why tf this game so dead? i probably wont be wasting my energy to complaining in this dead ass feedback page

lusty cloud
haughty bay
#

Iā€™m getting clipped to random objects, like wood pieces and that map sucks

blissful crescent
#

For the love of god ... ADDRESS the 120 fps mode on console ..just tell us are you planning to implement it in the future or should I just give up

smoky kiln
#

honestly love the new DISSUN upper body shirt; but why the WHITE undershirt?!?!?!?!? im trying to make it work but dissun is known for black and red colors its hard to make a character with the white sticking out like a sore thumb

cloud spear
#

Why not make a cashout station fill up the cash bar of the team that controls it each second of them controlling it

queen shale
red knot
#

NERF LIGHT THROWING KNIFES

silent fog
#

Nerf the winch.

brisk raven
#

So me and my teammate just got oneshotted by the RPG as a light, is this a bug?

fickle oracle
#

The Data Reshaper cannot create the Glitch Barrel. Is it a bug?

tranquil knoll
#

GuardianFashion#3830

echo crescent
#

There should be a system added that gives lost points back when a cheating player is in the lobby.
Of course only when the player gets reported and punished by embark.

lapis basin
vale ember
#

The team that has the cashout should get the amount of cash correlating to the time they had the cashout. No extra cash for kills. But maybe 10-15% for team wipes.

thorn kelp
empty junco
#

REMOVE CLOAKING!!!! Full cloking team against us looks like a fucking slow disgrace FPS game

worldly raptor
#

Cloaking ainā€™t even OP lmfaooo

red echo
#

real , also dont complain about ta , you choose that path

but nerf fking tk , give them a cd or some shit , not only they have 0 recoil they never have to worry about reloading , just spam like its aimlabs

zealous pulsar
thick tundra
empty junco
# worldly raptor Cloaking ainā€™t even OP lmfaooo

Isnt OP is just toxic and skill less ability. Even with Demat if i want to disengage takes a bit of skill. Not Cloaking by pressing a simple button going invis lol. Light players cloaking until you turn your back to them and then MP5 you 250 health with the fastest TTK guns thats just trash gameplay! Replace it with something else or NERF it to at least be harder to use somehow. How can you be invisible with gun in hand and already ADS INVIS still?? Sometimes its OP yes! Team full of cloaks nobody want to play against ghosts lol

civic oar
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They should add in an option where mnk go up against mnk and console against console itā€™s so annoying how I have to go up against pc players.

If i turn off cross play I canā€™t find no one Oceana not much people playing.

gritty owl
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we need more short-sleeved tops, there arent many tops that work well with tattoos

echo crescent
elder folio
spark shard
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No, 1887 is not fine, the range and (maybe) fire rate is crazy. In general, all the shotguns have a crazy range.

dusk mica
shut sierra
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Hello, is this where I? You can pity me and that. What do I have to say be heard by the developers?

cosmic ether
distant fossil
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take away 500 points per kill ad stop enabling lights with over inflated egos who still make u lose the game bc they think their random kills o the 2 bottom teams matter

hearty hatch
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KEEP: $500 kill bonus, Deposit bonus, and Cashout percentage for capture.

BRING BACK: Team Wipe penalty.

grizzled hornet
clear hemlock
spice dagger
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Buff some other guns instead of nerfing light. Its a spongefest

timber talon
#

for some reason everyimte i log onto my pc my controller settings all get reset

tacit lintel
#

Anyone else on Xbox get ā€œContestantā€ glitch? Every person is just known as contestantā€¦ even on Home Screen, my own character and all my friends on or off this game?

high lynx
#

Either nerf the taserā€™s range to basically point blank or make swapping from taser much slower than it is now or nerf the movement penalty or massively reduce its accuracy at range, any single 1 out of the 4 will make it a more balanced or just straight up remove it. Cloak+double barrel+taser makes for zero-repercussion free kill crutch. From S1 to now all I can see is embark is making a free-kill crutch and trying balance it to be more tolerable, which shouldnā€™t be acceptable because at the end of the day, itā€™s a crutch, a copout. Itā€™s a skill-less gadget setting up the player with nothing to lose at all and everything to gain with, peak imbalanced

surreal meadow
buoyant mural
thick tundra
coarse oar
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They won't cause they know it'll prove them wrong lmao

wicked abyss
#

ranked just put me into a match with people double my rank. what the actual fuk?!

celest crag
#

I had an idea I thought could be fun for the Finals!

I think it'd be really cool for the next season if we got a "Superhero" style update. Obviously costumes etc, but it'd be really cool if there was a game mode with custom "super powers". Light can have a super jump with a build up to jump (think opposite to hero landing). Medium could have the ability to control weather effects to suit them (fog, heavy rain, sun, snow) for visibility changes or other effects (slow etc). The heavy can have something destructive (they can make themselves explode like a nuke after a timer or something). Only an idea but thought it'd be cool šŸ™ā¤ļø

spark shard
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First of all, watch your vocabulary; no one has spoken like that here. Secondly, you are no one to say who can or cannot speak here, and even less are you going to demand from me or anyone in this chat what experience one must have in order to speak. Have a good day and take a breath.

patent wind
#

Tactical/military season with more tac bundles like we had this season and some military skins. Currently majority if not all of the military stuff is locked behind a paywall

stable path
drowsy shell
#

If you could, how would you change defib?

warm basalt
#

100% of powershift games ends up with the loosing team massive leave before the end.

2 MINUTES PENALTY FOR ANY LEAVERS

dire herald
#

More often than I would like when firing a missile it explodes without having anything in its direct path that is visible. And it is only functional when it wants to work. I think that the trigger collider is very large and the slightest thing that touches something ends up exploding, taking away almost all your life. It is a sensation that gives me and it is that it does not compensate as much as it should for a device that takes so long to charge, plus you have to reload it manually once the cooldown is over and shoot it, being lucky that in full debauchery it does not touch the slightest thing with collider

queen shale
distant fossil
brave quarry
#

Please, nerf AT LEAST the range of the spear.

Already, out of a desire to make your game accessible to any casual, a lot of almost one-shot hand-to-hand weapons with a simple left-click, please have the game maintained by PLAYERS, not just developers.

I'm still a big fan of the game, even if one game a day is more than enough for me at the moment. I'd like more than anyone to see the game succeed on a large scale, but for that to happen, we really need to review the balancing of this season.

nova osprey
#

We very much need a new pet. A red panda pet that crawls around your back and shoulders if you donā€™t have anything on your back.

zealous pulsar
uneven rampart
#

PETITION!

RED PANDA PET FOR THE COMMUNITY!

EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN MENACE WATCHING THEIR SHOULDER

LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN!

rapid stream
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no.

latent meteor
#

anyone have playstation problems? i cant install the finals on my ps5 :(

shrewd iris
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this doesnā€™t really have much to do with the game side of things but ever since launch, there have been server side issues that cause delays and lag a LOT

is there a remedy for this?

broken geyser
#

Reduce the Lewis recoil

pastel ravine
#

do you keep diamond a the end of the season if you lose it and go to plat

charred rock
#

Pls Embark Studio.

Nerf the throwing knifes. they are to op

patent girder
reef orchid
#

I just filled the survey, but I don't think it covered my thoughts precisely.

Specifically the wipe changes. In our group there's now no longer a push to fight for a wipe since it doesn't harm the other team. All the questions were from the perspective of your own team, not the potential damage to other teams.
Say we just kill 2 and if the third is hiding then fine, mine the statue, grab the box and go. No reason to fight for 500 while delaying the game when you could make 3k by putting the box in

It's not bad or good, it's different.

red knot
hearty talon
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I'll be brief. Balance weapons by their stats, not their recoil patterns. Everyone stopped using the Lewis, M60, and the even the FCAR because of this.

open elm
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why did we get more skins like if the game isn't dying due to unbalanced classes and the worst mode for rank? guess we needed more skins šŸ’€

dark umbra
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My feed back for the game would be literally everything jfj said on a post on twitter, he is also correct on the thing with new player leaving I have even left because of it

woeful lagoon
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femboy cosmetics x4

trail terrace
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sys horizon map needs to go, i cant see shit inside buildings, the colors make it hard to spot enemies especially the same colored team

rose siren
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Give the sonar grenades back to the medium. What idiot came up with the idea to give these grenades to a small one. "You can't see the invisible? No problem, now they can see you. Love your pain namaheart "

wintry frost
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(Again)
Could we have the option to select which tracks we want to listen to for things like lobby music, searching, end of round, etc.? I'm not saying the new OSTs are bad or anything like that, but I'd literally pay if I could play the S1 tracks when looking for a game or ending one. Playing them on a different platform is an option, but it's not ideal.

I'm suggesting something like what Rocket League has.

jovial sonnet
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Turn spear spin attack into a hold input. If you hold the button it spins forever, but if your just tap it once you only do one swing. Im too scared to use the alt attack cause it thr enemy just walks away then im stuck in a huge animation.
Also let you shoot sonar gernades

young smelt
reef orchid
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Oh also plz bring back CL-40 its dead now and I love it šŸ„²

oblique pagoda
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Please fix matchmaking for ranked TA. Obviously queue times are awful, averaging at 4 minutes for me, despite being NA and Plat 2. The biggest problem that ive been having though is the team balancing. I understand that when you go on a winning streak, you'll play against better teams, but winning two games in a row against teams that are well 50k+ RS below your team, shouldn't put me into a game against a team that's 150k more RS than mine. The jump is just too much. worst off is that it doesnt matter whether im solo queueing or stacking, it still happens. I just wish that the teams were more balanced on these winstreaks, and that isntead of it going from a -50k RS difference straight to a +150k RS difference, it were properly smoothed out. Admittedly, this could be due to just how dead ranked is, and the matchmaking is just grasping at straws to form teams, but considering how its pretty much every single time i go on a win streak, I doubt it. All in all, just make TA better :) Also i understand obviously that i dont lose anything for losing against that +150k RS team, but even if i dont lose any RS, it still sucks to lose. And losing 14 RS is still 14 RS either way

bold berry
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Mouse is not working on pS5( the keyboard works ) while it seems to be working on xBox.. that is racism( noways everything is racism of fascim šŸ˜… ). Any news on this?

cold pilot
#

šŸ¤£ cheaters everywhere

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gritty python
iron bough
# gritty python

They look legit. I always get 1457 kills average, so easy. Skill issue... ehmmm... yeah, I lost 154 braincells.

trail terrace
#

yes its called feedback for a reason

dry raft
elder birch
#

Would it be possible for there to be a 5v5 cashout limited time mode?

quick coyote
hardy bramble
#

I juss realize they teased season 2 in the season 1 trailer with CNS

glad delta
stray thunder
#

We need cashout that rewards holding the objective. That is cash for time held.

And also a matchmaking system for WT and casual.

stoic drift
shell raven
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i find myself feeling less like im losing fights due to skill, and more like im losing fights due to balancing issues. the combination of good dps + infinite ammo on throwing knives, with the mobility provided by dash, makes it miserable to play against as a medium. I feel like I have to play different weapons and utility to counter lights compared to what I would normally play, just to have a chance at winning. and while light should have areas where they excel compared to the other classes, many of their weapons are top of their class at ranges or engagements where they shouldn't be that effective, like the xp54 at longer ranges or the lh1 at point blank

grizzled hornet
misty schooner
#

Sys horizon needs a paint job

pseudo latch
stoic drift
oblique pagoda
# oblique pagoda Please fix matchmaking for ranked TA. Obviously queue times are awful, averaging...

After this game, I played against a team that was only 1k RS above mine, but we lost, so now on a 2 game losing streak, you would imagine that I'd go against a team that has lower RS than mine, right? nope. I go against a team that has 170k RS more than mine. No ranked matchmaking should ever do this, especially since despite losing this game, unsurprisingly, i actually ended up gaining RS from it. I gained RS from losing a game. As if its like "yeah, we put you in a game that you had a 99% chance of losing, but ay, lets just give you some RS despite it." I dont understand what algorithm Embark has for ranked TA, but it needs to be changed/fixed.

tight verge
#

Buff dagger buff dagger buff dagger buff dagger buff dagger

itā€™s the worst build in the game

buff dagger buff dagger buff dagger buff dagger buff dagger

waxen granite
#

I think a really cool implementation would be making the gaming fucking work try it. Shit runs like lizzo on a treadmill

hasty cliff
untold willow
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if you want dagger to be better it should be through indirect buffs to dash or grapple

azure pecan
#

Let me know what you guys think about this. I think one of the reason tons of people have left this game is just because of the game mode itself. Tournament cashout has had issues since the beta. Although the patch last week improved things a bit, I donā€™t think itā€™s enough. How many games have you played where you start a cashout and end up sitting there doing nothing for the entirety of the 2 minute cashout? And how many times have you pushed a cashout and wiped the other squad then immediately got 3rd partied and lost that cashout? I think having 2 separate cashouts is a flaw in itself. I think that the tournament cashout should just have 1 cashout and 3 teams like quick cash. Then embark can determine whether they want it to be exactly like quick cash, or still implement the 30% cash gains on starting, and 500 dollars per kill and stuff like that. I think 3 teams all fighting over one cashout adds a lot more team play and strategy than the current state. The only the winners move on to the next round and say you can do either a 2 or 3 round tournament in this format. Thoughts?

dusk mica
#

Input based matchmaking!!! Or at least let me plug in a mouse and keyboard.

split wasp
unique roost
#

leaving a world tour match where nobody joins your team maybe shouldnt penalize people

tight verge
# hasty cliff my friend (who cant aim for his life, like .002 k/d kinda shit) is only compete...

You must to be in low sbmm lobbies. Dagger is really strong against bad players. Terrible against competent, aware players. Trust, I have like 400 hours on dagger, Im friends with all the best dagger players including Diamond Ranked guys, we all say the same thing.

And @untold willow , I've thought about that too, but the thing is, if you buff dash then other weapons get waaaaay stronger than they should. Dagger's problem is just that it's trash, has no range (even less after the dash nerf) and you can't buff it indirectly without making the rest of light class builds way too strong, the only solution I see is buffing it directly.

Buffs that could help are making light get backstabbed from any angle, not just the back, and making heavies insta back stab. Heavies are some of the hardest to dashstab since their hit box is so big you get stuck on them while trying to get behind so not getting rewarded for that is kinda wild especially if the counter is literally rubbing 2 slabs of metal together and defibing their asses right back up.

But really any buff would be appreciated I'm not picky. Just gime soooomething šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«

pseudo latch
waxen granite
#

Is this game hooked up to steven hawkings wheel chair? It runs so dog shit can you guys possibly stop making this game run like a 60 year old pack a day smoker?

stark notch
#

Cb1 best version of the game

burnt notch
#

Bro woke up and chose violence.

thorn elbow
#

whoever approved kyoto as an official map must be some sort of psychopath

fathom gale
solid lynx
cold bolt
#

LMGs + fcar still unusable due to recoil changes icri

the place where akm and fcar were just before 3.0 was just right bc both had their use case, akm for lobbies/final round with shield heavies and fcar otherwise

LMGs have uhhh no use case right now, if you're not running SA (or even hammer/flamethrower) you're throwing DogSmile

serene cedar
#

I personally think LMGs are still good but have been dialed back from a state of ā€œhold down fire to win why pick any other heavy weaponā€. I donā€™t think itā€™s that LMGs have no use case they just donā€™t have much that synergies with them. Like old barricade would still make any LMG now a top tier pick. Winch doesnā€™t really compliment LMGs as well and is kind of a counter to them, which is why they feel rough to play this season. I still think Lewisā€™s burst fire is very strong and heavies best longer range option and the sustain of the M60 is unmatched, I honestly think the LMGs are in a okay spot but just need a gadget or spec that compliments them

iron bough
somber snow
#

Why does only Ranked Terminal Attack use SBMM? Why does World Tour not?

sharp belfry
split wasp
pseudo latch
# iron bough The guy has some ego issues. <@150337861307072512> No offense.

Considering thats entirely unrelated and youre just trying to be a prick, some taken.

@split wasp and no, i certainly gave it a read, and you make points that do make sense. I dont think saying "chill out on updates" followed by "change the meta twice a month" Is the right idea, but spicing up the meta is a good idea. It would be nice if the devs talked to us more (and thankfully, they at least seem to be trying on that venue a bit more recently) because waiting months to hear about active issues is getting old.

You also make a really compelling point, the games meta is balanced around, and damn near held back, by light, and some design changes should be made on that front. The bitch is satisfying both parties which, based on how the assassin discourse is in any game where assassins are present, is hard. Either the assassin doesnt get to have fun, or no one does. Im not sure if a happy middleground exists but youre absolutely right that the game is limited by how hard Embark is trying to make light function.

Im just mostly commenting on how twelve (yes, I counted, twelve) Paragraphs of you screaming about light starts to feel like a hammer against the forehead more than anything.

Also luv u too BB ā¤ļø

young hamlet
#

Add technical timeouts, like CS2
My game crashes, just take a 90 seconds break to allow me to reconnect without putting my team at a disadvantage

feral shell
#

I hope the devs ignore us more honestly. Iā€™ve seen some of the stupidest suggestions and takes on the changes made thrown around this place.

Theyā€™re trying to turn a game made for casual play into one made for competitive play while also trying to listen to a super casual playerbase about the changes to do so. This approach will never work.

haughty niche
quick coyote
#

Low gravity adds absolutely nothing to the game. It ruins the end of games completely.

raw moss
#

EMBAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK

GIVE GRAPPLE A SECOND CHARGE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

crisp heart
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wraith zephyr
#

@dense niche what happend with moderation? this channel is more a chat than a feedback collection....

dense niche
#

I mean, some messages sure gets filtered, but the discussion, as long as it has some good points from either side, we take into consideration

burnt notch
somber snow
#

How are we supposed to have discussions with meaningful feedback? It's hard to tell what Embark pays attention to. Why not switch an existing channel to 1 of the forum style channels or make a new one? This will allow players to view things more asynchronously as well as allow players to see conversations (threads) that are generally more popular

dense niche
#

No ETAs or even 100% certainty it is the route we'll go with, but we see you guys' feedbacks

quick coyote
# stoic drift https://x.com/jifferey/status/1818690387705274807?s=46

I agree with couple points made in this post. Though i would like to point out a few; @split wasp

Light doesn't have the highest ammo count in the game, heavy does.
Light needs to flank on equal skill levels, you can't walk up to someone and shoot them, you lose because light's TTK is higher than other classes' TTK on Light. So trying to 1v1 head on will always result in the light losing. Also on higher levels, people stay together so light can't really be reckless considering their HP.

Sword, at least the lunge which is the only thing sword players use; Has no aim assist, and the majority of players turn it off to begin with because it is so bad. Sledge vs Sword matchups are all down to skill. Heavy has multiple attempts to predict or bait the light, and one mistake from the light is GGs. And that's completely fair matchup in my eyes.

I don't understand some of the complaints like light has destructible gadgets and medium doesn't. Light needs these to flank, it's the class's identity. Medium are support and usually stay with the team or specifically the heavy so they don't usually destroy much. But if you really wanna destroy stuff on your own without canisters, explosive mines do the trick fairly easily and can also one tap people.

Light can't make many mistakes, that would go to heavy with his massive health pool. You can push an entire team, rpg and do whatever, then pop your mesh, dome or charge out of LOS and hide till you regen and go back again, even though this is an awful idea because Heavy shouldn't really be pushing alone without his team.

No light is not killing the game. The game has been on a steady decline aka "dying" since release and It's only now that people complain that light is the reason the game is dying despite it losing players since day 1?
it's only now that there has been an influx in light players in casual with the removal of ranked so you see a lot of the sweaty players on WT dominate. Let alone that light is already great against unaware, uncoordinated and separated players, which to say the least is the entire casual playerbase of people brainlessly running around without their team in a team based game thinking it's CoD just to get punished and then complain they can't always win when light gets the jump on them.

I will say after all this that yes... Throwing Knives needs some work, they are simply too forgiving for high burst, infinite ammo weapon just one tapping people in close range like it's hitscan. It's not the best, it's just braindead.

pseudo latch
iron bough
azure thistle
dense niche
stoic drift
#

you're missreading it. he's played TF2 and Dirty Bomb since school and the finals beats it. I think he can be forgiven for dragging on given he's played the game since the betas and has watched it go to the dogs for months

storm drum
#

The sad think is , you just cannot come back from work and get some games on. All lobby are so sweatyā€¦ no place for just go 4 funā€¦

velvet nexus
#

add a feature so people who spent money on the game when the the original game mode was here can get refunded because atp I feel like I fell for a scam, this game is actually splitgate 2

uneven dagger
#

make lights 2 feet shorter and keep their hitbox the same

errant mauve
#

[Part 1/3]
Hello Embark,

I wanted to provide proper feedback to your recent changes to the Cashout gamemode, which unfortunately isnā€™t really possible through your Google feedback form:

Overall the changes were a mixed bag. To summarize, best change is what now rewards a more active gameplay: Both starting cash boxes and activating cashouts were often lackluster or boring, with little reward and gameplay that felt more like a chore than a fun mechanic. Now, there is a higher cash bonus for these tasks, and, more importantly, hunting players that were protecting a cash box had become much more lucrative! Previously, there wasnā€™t much of an incentive to battle teams without a cashout, as there was too little reward and loosing the encounter may have resulted in a huge loss (-30%).

Unfortunately, these changes have been too successful and somewhat reversed the previous situation somewhat: While kills are more worthwhile, there is no penalty besides a timeout when getting wiped. Worse still, cashing out became less important due to the higher kill rewards, however only mostly in the early rounds with smaller cash boxes. Also, getting equal scores with other teams has become a common occurrence, with one of them still getting disqualified unfairly.

It is nice to see experimentation of the game modes and improvement attempts, but I kind of dislike the way these changes are being directly implemented in the already previously good game mode, instead of being tested in a separate game mode to collect feedback and iterate on. Similar to how Overwatch experimented with game modes and ideas.

So, overall, after playing quite a few matches of cashout, it feels worse than what I was already used to. There are good ideas in there, just too unbalanced to feel right.

wraith zephyr
# dense niche I mean, some messages sure gets filtered, but the discussion, as long as it has ...

kk, i think some proper location to submit feedback would be nice then, because writing it here just makes it disappear (wrote it anyway since i had to wait for 30min hahaha)...

I think there needs to be a more manageable method of submitting feedback like @somber snow already pointed out. Since your working with AI anyway. How about a Chatbot you can submit your feedback to, it will ask-questions to ensure it has all info needed. and if not existent create a forum entry regarding that topic. The Once Human discord has a pretty nice system where you write to the bot he creates a forum post where then up votes and down votes can be added. Also the discussion for each topic is automatically divided into threads this way & centered around the topic. So you would still be able to see discussions and such.

To me and all my friends who play, the removal of the penalties destroyed to whole game. You can run around Triple light and just steal all cubes and put them in. You will end up in the FINAL 100% of the time because you get enough to stay in the game and no one can ever take it away no mater what they do. Its like 10x simpler now. All the "futuristic" new mechanics that finals had in it wen't away. There is no need for team play or thinking anymore, as long as you get the cube in you can just run splitted like monkeys without even the slightest of punishment.

I think this mechanic was a heart part of the game. And i never saw one complaining about it, im kinda shocked it was removed in the first place.

so basically i would like to bag you. ADD IT BACK. You should try to not listen to 2IQ monkeys frustrated because they cannot do math and run in without thinking. As it is now. The AIM NO BRAIN play style is all you need. Not even that. You can come until final with 0 kills just by stealing cubes. Its fr a joke to me.

cold bolt
# burnt notch Fcar is honestly just a skill issue, if ur so worried about the recoil of the gu...

you can only adapt so much to a bad gun, the recoil pattern is a much larger liability than akm's lack of sight attachment atm shrug

granted the gap between fcar and akm is much less pronounced than between LMGs vs SA, you can still use it and find success, but there's just no reason to use it over akm now bc of the recoil

also, top players aren't running around with the LMGs anymore and FCAR usage has dipped among them, wonder why Think1

heavy drum
#

Please bring back old cashout rules.

haughty niche
#

make the parts of the metro drifter set to be able to be individually purchased. i only want one part of it šŸ˜¦

torn harbor
#

So.. Wheres the survey link everyone is signing atm?

stoic drift
#

not gonna elaborate on why any of the points are bad? I dont think I agree with everything but all of it?

split wasp
# quick coyote I agree with couple points made in this post. Though i would like to point out a...

  1. This is true. I meant that a lot of his weapons have a ton of ammo. Like a shit ton.
    1a. Lights damage and maneuvering is flank centered sure, but Lights are extremely lethal even face to face.

  2. That's just incorrect, if the dash auto aim wasn't so strong right now dagger wouldn't be so lethal.

  3. Light has more gadgets than the support class. I should've been more clear on that.

  4. Dash and invisibility plus high damaging and high ammo count weapons allow him to be very frugal. He can miss with his aim and still recover.

  5. I of course can't prove Light is killing the game but I do have over 2 dozen witness testimony saying they are never coming back because of him. Of course that's a small control group.
    But it's been apparent since the first CB0 I was a part of. Light wasn't considered a huge issue because many things killed him very easily.

crisp heart
#

EMBARKā€¼ļø MAKE A MOLOTOV COCKTAIL FIRE BOTTLE SKIN FOR THE PYRO NADEā€¼ļø

copper anvil
#

wait wtf I was just abt to say how I love jfj and he's right there

Ok the 30 min timer is crazy, but this game does feel really frustrating when it comes to burst damage. I am the biggest heavy hater and haven't played much of S3 bc the rank change to TA, but I can only imagine how shitty light feels to play into when they can escape so easily. The game shouldn't be whoever one shots the other first bc it ruins a lot of the team gameplay

hollow ingot
quick coyote
# split wasp 1. This is true. I meant that a lot of his weapons have a ton of ammo. Like a sh...

Light is very good against bad players hence why they win face to face at times. It has always been a pub stomper and is now more than ever with so many casuals after the removal of ranked cashout.

There's no dash aim assist, sword doesn't have aim assist on the lunge (m2), and dagger is only hurt by aim assist.

Same applies to other classes such as heavy with 47 bullets in his lewis and only 7 shots kill light and 40 to spare. M60 killing in 8 shots with 62 to spare. AK kills light with 8 shots and 28 to spare. On the other hand Light's XP which is like the benchmark for light's guns (except range), kills medium in 14 shots with 16 to spare - half the mag basically, and 20 shots to kill Heavy with only 10 to spare. So no, missing with light is very punishing. Ill attach the sheet for you to check and decide for yourself.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ud7Rdl3AgMw9mmfDwW2LtDMnzZQ9IIhnqSE4ivsaMTs/edit?gid=2136619021#gid=2136619021

Light still dies very quickly by a ton of stuff only held back by chance that light is full hp and didn't hit once, such as mines, rpg, charge is just one shot with the slam follow up, winch + anything, model meat shots even light itself with the db, blah blah you get what i mean. It's still a fragile class that dies in mere milliseconds. Nothing has changed with light and heavy interactions, if anything they're more in the heavy's favor because winch is a thing now.

rugged temple
# split wasp 1. This is true. I meant that a lot of his weapons have a ton of ammo. Like a sh...

1a. Its true that they are also lethal face to face, but on an equal skill level the light will always lose.

  1. Dagger, nor Sword is really an issue. They have 0 range and have to close the gap with the lowest amount of HP. Not to mention the large amount of melee counters in the game, and especially counters to dagger (such as a singular wall).

  2. Not all of them are useful. Compared to Medium, Light has less useful gadgets. (Smoke nades, tracking dart, thermal vision). Light often has weaker gadgets overall compared to medium.

  3. Light's kit does allow him to take risks, but its extremely easy to die as light. Light is more forgiving than Medium if you play it well, but not Heavy.

  4. Not much to say. It's a small control group.

tight verge
iron bough
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Man, I would come back to the game if they remove the Olympics' event from World Tour, that was a slap in the face.

errant mauve
# errant mauve [Part 1/3] Hello Embark, I wanted to provide proper feedback to your recent cha...

[Part 2/3]
I have also thought as to how I would rebalance the cashout gamemode:

  • 300$ per kill
  • 20% penalty for getting team wiped
  • 1500$ for activating a cash box
  • Nothing for starting a cashout
  • 50% of cash box for cashing out
  • 50% of the cash box is being payed out slowly during the cashouts lifetime
  • Cashout is PAUSED (both time and money) while it is being captured with a 2s resume delay upon disruption or capture.

Iā€™d like to iterate further on the last two suggestions:
There is little reward to protect a cashout and a risky undertaking. If teams ā€œteam upā€, the team protecting the cashout is often the one getting the short straw, while gaining basically nothing while risking their virtual lifes. With this trickling payout, it is constantly being rewarded for protecting the box, even when they failed protecting it till the end. And with a large 50% cashout at the end, it is still worth it to attack a cashout that is nearing the end of its life.

The other important change is pausing a cashout during capture, making it possible to still steal the cashout at the very end, as long as it is started and not interrupted. This is not a bomb defusal, after all. To prevent exploiting the delay behavior after a disruption or capture, the 2s delay-buffer is being depleted and only gets refilled slowly while the cashout is active and paying out again. This makes indefinite delays and trolling at the end of the match not much of an issue.

Also, with changes like these, the final round of cashout required much less of a rule change to work.

radiant ether
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the medium class has become very monotonous with a nearly standard loadout for everyone: healbeam + defib + zipline + jumppad. On the other hand, I think the light class, although it has received some good improvements recently, is still not sufficiently valued in "ranked" games. Proposal: Remove zipline and jumppad from the medium and give them to the light, making the light a class that helps speed up team movement, making it indispensable in a team. The medium could instead be given the gateway or some other gadget.

shut sierra
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Hello to all the friends! I wanted to write my anger... I have 300 hours of games and I play in RANKED.. PLATINE LEVEL... But the problem remains: THE TRICHEURS... and the POINTS of Victory or Defeat that are badly distributed... its disgust and makes you want to go on other games... (I play with cheats... I signal and I am thanked ONLY I lost 1200 SR... with each party lost.. and the same when my allies left the game and I lose 7-0 while we are only 2 in my team against 5 players... MINUS 1200SR... SUPER!!! and when I win a game I win?? 400SR .. SUPER! Its disgust and makes you want to leave the Ranked mode... and even the GAME to try "VALORANT" šŸ˜”šŸ˜” HELP ME PLS šŸ„° THX FOR THIS MONSTER GAME ā™„ļøā™„ļø

smoky gust
# radiant ether the medium class has become very monotonous with a nearly standard loadout for e...

I think that mainly burns down to some items being too strong though

Defib is run by almost all mediums because it can turn fights from a 3v3 into 3v4-3v6
Healbeam works really well with this, since it removes one of the few "drawbacks" defib has
(If you ask me, only getting 50% of your health back is not really a downside, since thats still a lot better than not being revived at all)

Light suffers in ranked for similar reasons
Everyone wants to win, so only the strongest items are used
(In defibs case this is made even worse since everyone stays really close together)

Another item i think is too strong is rpg, it just shuts down any engagement attempt of a light and is one of the few things that can somewhat easily counteract defib
At the same time, if a light manages to get a kill, defib immidiatly removes and reward again

The meta has pretty much always been MMH or HHM because people want to flatten everyone else with instant damage, or try their best to avoid wiping to said strat by stacking instant revives+heals

And light suffers under it

If defib and rpg were nerfed, we would not only see more viable loadouts, but also see lights more in ranked

If we just move these gadgets to light medium would become a lot less interesting and it may not even help light become viable

earnest gulch
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nerf throwing knoves

copper anvil
# smoky gust I think that mainly burns down to some items being too strong though Defib is r...

Aren't lights and heavies currently dominating ranks just bc heal beam and defib are gone? The game really has turned into a burst fest in TA. I said it before during last season, you shouldn't be able to climb ranks bc you're playing mercy med (a lot of ppl got mad at me over that), it's so insane it's a viable play style. RPG is also such an issue, a class that can't be easily bursted down, having a very consistent burst tool (and now winch) is overtuned. The amount of fights I win in straight 1v1s against heavies is crazy if their RPG is on cooldown, but having 99% of fights start with me taking 140 dmg feels awful

yeah we already know you think heavy is weak, it's not, get over it. Just bc you're getting skill issued on the strongest class doesn't mean it's weak

pseudo latch
# copper anvil Aren't lights and heavies currently dominating ranks just bc heal beam and defib...

Lights* are dominating. You think heavies are doing fuck or all after being half-healthed for the whole round by a single sniper shot?
Thats not a "heavies are weak" statement lmao. Every other team youll see is 4-5 lights and maybe a medium. Heavy is not being played in TA, and when TTK's are as important as they are in the mode and light is the least impacted by the health limitation, theres a reason.

obtuse radish
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what if we brought back team wipe cash loss and made it so you have "insurance" whenever you own a cashout station so we can offset the kill money while also incentivizing defending the cashout without fear of team wipe

distant vine
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lowest possible graphics settings. and kyoto still lags my 4080 to 14fps. fix this dog shit map
edit: since people cant read. LOWEST GRAPHICS SETTINGS.

golden rock
mild ruin
crisp oxide
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Good triple light teams are so freaking toxic feeling idk

errant mauve
# errant mauve [Part 2/3] I have also thought as to how I would rebalance the cashout gamemode:...

[Part 3/3]
Some more critiques/suggestions/bugs that are not part of the recent changes:

  • Fix the enemy team colors. They are all red and often really difficult to tell apart and Iā€™m not even color blind. Since there are mostly only 3 or less enemies teams, just pick 3 colors that can be differentiated easily.
  • Lower round start time for terminal attack even further. Nobody has to buy weapons and preparation for defenders is quick anyway. Plus, the attacking team has to traverse through the entire map first anyway.
  • Requeuing right after finishing a match often results in one of the teammates canceling the queue. This is weird, since there is no option to cancel the lobby leaders queue...
  • Bridges, elevators and cranes sometimes desync, displaying a wrong state
  • Make loadouts renameable.
  • Make L/M/H visible in scoreboard even when that person is dead. There is plenty of space.

Finally: Thanks for making The Finals!

dense niche
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@errant mauve Make sure not to use hyperlinks moolahpet

smoky gust
# copper anvil Aren't lights and heavies currently dominating ranks just bc heal beam and defib...

I see a lot of lights stacks with the odd mediums or so (though i do see some mixes H+M teams every now and again)

But my theory would explain your experience
Defib and healbeam (that normally make medium overtuned) are gone, so they cant outcompete rpg and are run way less
Lights hit and run nature just happens to be better and more impactful in TA, resulting in them being able to outpressure the single use rpg (a lot of the time)

quick coyote
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I donā€™t understand the criticism of the previous cash out system. The new update turned the game into such an aggressive and mindless shooter because you donā€™t have to defend anything anymore. Before this, the objective actually had a point, now itā€™s just Bank It with smaller sums.

somber snow
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Why does Power Shift try to backfill when the game is seconds from being over. I joined a match where of the 4 people on my team, only 1 had done anything. The other 2 and myself were added as the match ended.

Edit: Next match joined was also in progress and my team was being farmed about 5% from their finish line

copper anvil
# smoky gust I see a lot of lights stacks with the odd mediums or so (though i do see some mi...

Im just addicted to demat to play any other class, it has such a high skill ceiling its like crack. (PLEASE EMBARK FIX DEMAT ON LAS VEGAS) thats the issue with no health regen tho, chip dmg becomes really strong and burst is fucking INSANE, one of the reasons you dont see med is they get bullied by both chip and burst dmg, and have none of their own besides shotgun and frags which every class has access to

velvet nexus
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stricter rage quit penalty would probably be warrented at this point

cerulean birch
haughty niche
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btw new cashout changes , absolutely horrendous, terrible changes pls revert

hardy bridge
patent girder
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Shouldnā€™t have lived in Asia

Skill issue

eager ivy
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buff heavies weapons nerf gadgets and abilities heavy has some of the worst guns in the game while having some of the best abilites/gadgets a m60 shouldnt take 50 to 60 bullets on 1 dashing light right under mid range to kill while only having around 10 health left cuz lights weapons deal way to much damage at all ranges ps remove TA

stoic drift
# rugged temple 1a. Its true that they are also lethal face to face, but on an equal skill level...

1a. on an equal skill level but also where the fight is. on an open plain a medium or heavy will probably beat a light but when someone is running through one of the towns or in a room etc. and a light jumps out a window behind you and attacks you're going to die. a light who knows what they're doing and flanks you is going to kill you and probably get away with it with a dash or grapple.

  1. Because of light's high mobility and gadgets it is very easy for a light to close the distance when using melee, and the sword lunge hurts. it comes down to the situation you're in and sometimes a melee just runs in and dies, but a sword or dagger dashing around in your face is hard to kill.

  2. They're usefulness is besides the point especially because the tracking gear was taken from medium and given to light, everything has its uses. Smokes are kinda bad tho.

  3. It's easy to die but it's just as easy to kill. Light's kit is so forgiving for him that its unfair. He practically has two specializations thanks to the invis bomb.

  4. I also know multiple people for whom light was the breaking point, but sure small control. but from a purely objective standpoint things like the sniper rifle and light's weapons not having damage falloff are unfair.

smoky gust
# hardy bridge Defib is gonna always be useful unless they majorly rework it I'm not opposed t...

Yeah, we cant really just make a stat change with defib
That would at most make it feel bad to use
Increasing charge time, decreasing movement during charging or increasing cooldown would just make it unhandly

What could be done is giving it some risk, which requires a rework

I was thinking making damage to the hologram transfer some % to the medium so they might take massive damage if they dont position it carefully and force a slight retreat/careful playing

Or sharing the mediums hp to the target so both are low, so that there is an opening to attack

Building heavies combat viability on 1 gadget is a bad idea
If you dont run it you can forget combat and if you do run it you need to waste a slot for it and never use it for its interesting destruction options
It makes loadouts stale and limits our options
At the same time, being slammed with 140 damage at the beginning of any engagements sucks, and can still feel bad to use since you know you are cheesing it (but only because you often have to)

golden rock
# hardy bridge Defib is gonna always be useful unless they majorly rework it I'm not opposed t...

I feel like people tend to overvalue the defib, because on paper it has a huge impact, you bring back a teammate without having to sit in a place for the time of the revive, but you still need to use it properly for it to be even effective.

You have to revive people with it out of line of site, because they are just such an easy kill if you don't that you basically lost a gadget slot. You need to leave a fight, pick up the figure and put it somewhere else.

Sure it is like 175 hp but how effective is it really if the teammate is gone before they can fire off more than 5 shots. Especially compared to 150 from a frag or 140 from a mine that you can slot in defibs place. And that is talking about hitting singular people. I had a lot of moments where just picked up my teammates statue and revived him behind my mines, which gave a kill at the same time as I ressed them.

Situation changes drastically if you have a full premade, but even than I can see the overrelience on defibs can just lead to giving the team you are fighting 1,5k more points.

The best way to nerf defb would probably be to decrease the time of manual ressing. Defib will still pretty much always be better, because you can do other stuff while the teammate is getting revived.

rugged temple
# stoic drift 1a. on an equal skill level but also where the fight is. on an open plain a medi...

1a. Of course a light will excel when they flank you or go for targets at low health. That's how the class is intended to play. But that leaves them vulnerable in the majority of scenarios in which you can't ambush or fight a low hp target.

  1. The downside of not having range is already large enough. Sword and Dagger are both weaker options than just using guns and while they do excel up close (mainly sword, pls buff dagger) they ought to, since they're melee weapons. Its still possible to kill them in your face, just harder. They are fine in all regards.

  2. They're still bad, you could give them to medium and nothing would really change. Light has a higher quantity of gadgets, Medium has a higher quality of gadgets.

  3. The class with the most issues like this is heavy. Light has a high damage low hp tradeoff. Heavy has "unfair" gadgets and specs such as rpg, winch and c&s. This gives them high damage and high hp, so easy to get kills and hard to get killed. Light get countered with good skill. Heavy is extremely forgiving compared to the other classes.

  4. Only LH1 and Sniper have "no" damage falloff (80-100m). Unfair is very varied, but in my option the most unfair things in the game right now are heavy's absurdly strong options.

burnt notch
cedar saffron
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embark please add gifting in store! i want to be able to gift friends

hallow grove
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everything the lights use is over powered lol

karmic granite
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i have a massive issue with lights in this game

i think if you've played enough of this game and are pretty decent, or even new, this can be offputting

  1. debuff the throwing knives: whatever embark was doing a few updates ago with throwing knives is not it, i think that what they did to the throwing knives makes it actually too low skill. im aware its not hit scan like most of the weapons in this game, but people who use this typically it seems have been playing since that update and now are somewhat decent. it kills medium and heavy way too fast, and even light in some cases where other weapons that can typically outmatch most other lights close range and insta kill, or near insta kill like sniper or bow (with a quick melee). other weapons like the smgs on light dont even stand a chance either which really sucks

  2. either remove stun gun or further nerf it: im gonna say it but this weapon is actually a crutch. if you use stun gun, it takes no skill and creates cheap, easy kills. pair this with throwing knives and cloak and you've got yourself one of the most unfun builds to play against. this needs to seriously be addressed. a suggestion, and quite a weird one, is actually make it like the glitch grenade but maybe with some tweaks as then it would make more sense to use glitch grenade, although it would mean you can use it close range without it affecting yourself unlike glitch grenade. the reason this is so unfair and unfun to play against is that it kills all movement and makes you unable to escape. maybe another suggestion would be to decrease the range. plus, another reason this sucks is the fact that at least for me, the sound profile for this is very muffled and the buzzing sound effect actually makes it very difficult to know where you were stunned from. i know this because i dont typically have this problem when i get shot or are hearing footsteps.

glacial knot
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@rare spear @pearl kiln time for a ban wave , too much cheaters again.

runic robin
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If you have more than one medium then they should only be allowed one defibrillator per team, it is busted when they have several opportunities to immediately to revive someone

inland oxide
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Is this week's sniper/handgun challenge bugged? I've gotten many clearly headshot kills with the sniper and gotten no progress

carmine orbit
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I need a chicken suit to wear

gilded hull
#

remove snipers from terminal attack

hallow grove
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I promise you no one knows who you are lol stop acting like ur a god tier player.... a light 10 yards away with an invisible bomb, 3 DASHES and a 2 HIT SWORD is unstoppable, not even gonna mention the TTK on the "mp5" there's a reason why teams in the tournament aren't even using heavies and run 3 lights, I just played 3 tournaments, 1 tournament had 6 lights between 3 teams lol they have way to much equipment at their exposure at one time.

fading carbon
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I kindly request that keyboard and mouse support be implemented for Xbox. Having recently transitioned to playing on Xbox, I discovered that the game does not currently support keyboard and mouse inputs. This limitation is quite disappointing, as I have consistently used keyboard and mouse for this game and have not utilized a controller. My performance with a controller, particularly in first-person shooters such as THE FINALS, has been less than satisfactory. This would make me play this game more often and my friends that also have an Xbox.

I would greatly appreciate it if this feature could be included in the next patch update.

Thank you for Reading

bright wraith
iron bough
#

My Homie unlocked the Olympics Spear skin, it is mid, not worth grinding World Tour, if you want to maintain your sanity, avoid that mode.

pseudo latch
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  • Fix Bow hitreg so my arrows arenā€™t duds at close range
  • Give FCAR an identity again, lower its fire rate and up its damage so its a proper DMR and not an AKM sidegrade
  • Fix Revolver hitreg so my shots arenā€™t phasing through people.
  • Give M60 a purpose. Either tighten its hipfire and up its firerate so it can be used at close ranges effectively or increase its minimum damage so you can actually hurt people past 30.
  • Give Lewis its old recoil back. Not S2 recoil, S1 recoil. Itā€™s damage is comparable to mediums guns, itā€™s recoil should be to.
  • Fix KS23 hitreg so we arenā€™t firing blanks half the time
  • Increase MGL splash radius and/or make grenades detonate on enemy impact so the gun doesnā€™t demand a physics degree to be D-tier on its best days
  • Fix Flamer hitreg and give it something it does better than the SA12. Range, damage, better afterburn, something Iā€™m begging here.

Also Day 131 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

  • 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
  • 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
  • Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, youā€™re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
  • bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
    • significant damage to structures and players
    • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
    • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
    • its a goddamn minigun
  • - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
  • - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no ā€œpocket minigunā€ strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
  • - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

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abstract fog
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There has to be a nerf on the throwing knives

patent girder
#

Simple nerf for defibrillator to make it counter-able but not useless:

Shooting the hologram cancels the revive
Shooting hologram does not count as a kill

Aha EZ šŸ’°

distant fossil
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randomly loosing frames after last patch. build quality of the game just gets worse and worse. stop adding NEW shit and work on actually makig everything work and your playerbase would stick around edit: game is literally unplayable with random fps loss. uninstalled

velvet torrent
#

Hello Mr and Miss Embark Devs, Do you think it would be possible to add a 'Play OF The Game' type cam at the end of the round or perhaps a game? like Overwatch. Obviously depends how you would do it but my suggestion would be based of the amount of combat score and/or objective score gained within a time frame of 15-20 seconds. It would show the player doing his intro and then the clip. I just think this will add a little bit more showmanship in the game and would let players actually share these clips a bit easier. Would allow for the community to share a bit more. Maybe even a community rating system on it (similar to how you show off clips on youtube) but its instead accessed within the game and players are able to give reactions etc.

winged crypt
#

Don't make FPS games if you cant combat the rampant cheating situation. 4 of 5 enemies are cheating and I see them online every week clearly unbanned.

icy hedge
#

im here after a loss, nerf the game

stoic drift
#

did the rothschilds pay you to be a light apologist or something my lord

harsh panther
#

The punishment for leaving ranked is clearly not enough because I can have 2 people leave halfway through the game and Iā€™ll still have to play it out and lose a significant amount of points

misty plover
#

what?

vital crystal
lean root
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My graphics settings do not save at all, they randomly all switch back to epic or high after I put them on low settings. This happens sometimes after matches, or if I close the game and reopen my graphical settings are back on epic and I wonder why I'm lagging. Is there a permanent fix to this?

hollow barn
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I ask this with much respect.

When are you going to do something about the premades? Why play the solo queue against premades that are highly coordinated in discord call.

The matchmaking should work that if you play solo you should be matched against people who are not premade and vice versa. Otherwise, the only thing it ends up resulting in is unfair matches with teammates who can't or won't communicate against highly communicated and coordinated teams. It's normal that people don't want to play solo queue.

astral condor
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plz add back cashout ranked

midnight aurora
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let mediums use smoke grenades too

crystal sable
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model 1887 should be able to cancel reload. heavy sledge should have less reach. Lights shouldn't restore hp in terminal attack. Heavy dome shields shouldnt be shot through by any team. WT cashouts should be reverted to 10k each no money on tapping vault or insert. keep kills 500$ and make team wipes 5% total cash

sonic raft
#

Casual games should not count towards your win/loss ratio

glad swan
#

Optimize your game you cashgrabbers

sullen aspen
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Bring back wipe penalties, preferably as a split 2.4k steal (wiped loses 2.4k, last killer of each player gains 800)

Maybe scale it with highest active cashbox

rn it's almost always better to take a wipe than get into an extended firefight early and that's just annoying and stupid

tidal lake
#

Why am I in a full team up of Unranked. And an enemy team is all silver. But I lost a 1000. Because my team did not win one round. Why am I losing a bunch? Do something about the match making.

quartz shell
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make lights with throwing knives EXTREMELY LOUDER, I know its fun to use it but the fact that its almost a instakill for medium and lights is too frustrating

let us know when there is a hidden kill machine

patent wind
quick coyote
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  1. Bring back cashout ranked tournaments
  2. Make Medium the meta again. (nerf lights)
  3. Put back team wipe penalty and revert the time to steal to 7 seconds.
  4. Remove Terminal attack from the game.
  5. Esports scene.
  6. SBMM
  7. More **advertising **
  8. Limited time modes like **prop hunt. ** & new events like zombie invasion and Lava floor
  9. More communications from the developers.
  10. More unique modes like Cashout.
  11. Orientation for new players.
  12. New mode idea: **Cashpoint: ** 3v3v3 teams fight to **capture and hold points ** to earn cash. 1000$ earned every 5 seconds. Point changes every 45 seconds. No respawn times. First team to 40,000$ or most cash after 15 minutes wins.
  13. Optimization : I suggest updating the game engine to 5.4 in a future patch, as well as updating all available upscaling solutions to newer versions like DLSS to 3.7.0, XeSS to 1.3, and FSR to 3.1. UE 5.4 brings more optimizations which make the performance better and that should improve the general game experience for people in combination with the updated better upscalers. Also, add DirectStorage api to improve loading, there are times where all players are stuck to a loading screen for the match due to singular users with slower machines, and DiSto can eliminate/lower that.
topaz ledge
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fix the visibility and outline logic. in certain situations such as when inside a building with low light looking out to an area with lots of sunlight, the overexposure makes it impossible to see and any enemy in that light becomes impossible to hit, in addition to the fact that no outline is given to them. Also, when under cover, outlines are given to you when you cannot see the enemy, leading to an easy kill for them

proven venture
daring fossil
minor blaze
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Could we get some game optimizations please, I recently started playing on a new gaming laptop and Iā€™ve noticed how somewhat poorly the game runs

rapid stream
marsh oriole
# thorn kelp [Bank It has entered the chat]

Super late reply but bank it isnā€™t team deathmatch itā€™s more kill confirmed than team deathmatch, Iā€™m talking just plain team deathmatch no other objective but to eliminate opponents

uneven dagger
#

tell lights theyre annoying

eternal crag
#

how much damage does the Lh1 do? as a medium I die nearly instantly before I'm able to see the damage markers. same thing for heavy, it feels like heavies get 4 shot.

violet elbow
vestal basin
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STUPID BUGGED GAME
https://i.imgur.com/a9UWU41.png
Im done with this trash thing
Ruining our experience and they dont give a fk
and of course keep banning me because of your trash bugged game

bold plaza
#

why do the servers seem to get worse and worse after each update?

quick coyote
prisma harbor
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Bye thefinals i dƩsinstall, the game is dead! ty for TA RANKED ABSOLUTY CRING AF!

muted orchid
#

Why game no work

tribal spoke
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Please fix the dual blades, please make them useful

wide sun
#

bring man team kill cooldown for respawn at least for Bank it

formal hazel
#

Anyone else having long queue times with 4 or 5 stack ?

keen siren
#

What does this icon mean that I keep getting contantly?

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latent meteor
#

buff winch nerf everything else again

wicked glade
#

Nerf the range on XP itā€™s ridiculous that a sub outranges an assault rifle

thin patio
#

Not really. Make light more team play and heavy as well. So medium is evenly picked. Team wipe penalty just incentives trying to find the last player instead of objective. Pls donā€™t make another take lil bro šŸ™

torpid sky
daring fossil
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mp5 just needs a hard range buff

modern vortex
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We need some kind of penalty for team wipes

harsh panther
haughty bay
#

You guys had a good game and you ruined it

astral viper
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Y'all. You gotta do something about the Light meta. Fighting multiple teams of 3 throwing knife/dodge lights is the most annoying and boring meta I've ever seen in a PvP game.

quick coyote
crystal umbra
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Awesome quality of life change adding the notification sound when a gadget is not available for use yet.

Suggestion: add that same notification sound to specializations that are also not ready for use yet. Or maybe make a brand new notification sound that does the same thing.

Thanks for your consideration šŸš€

clever marlin
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give heavy brass knuckles and give us a beach bundle

uneven dagger
#

make lights invisible in real life

jaunty heath
white lily
sacred glacier
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why does the rpg do twice as much damage to oneself than to a direct hit to someone else?

astral viper
thorn kelp
runic robin
#

If you get revived your gun should be reloaded

misty plover
unique onyx
#

Anyone getting audio tearing and crashes since todays update?

tough berry
#

I love sledgehammeršŸ”Ø #reversethenerf

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daring fossil
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why the fuck does the flame thrower tick damage last for like 5+ seconds after but there's zero tick damage on the weak ass fire grenades which by the way all the skins have been broken since launch

stray siren
#

Ive been trying out terminal attack it's fun but snipers ruin it I don't think they have a place in the game mode it's unfair almost no other gun can touch them and when you do manage to hit them once theyll just grapple away across the map and hit your team to half health before you even reach the terminal

crystal umbra
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Another successful day of NOT playing Terminal Attack

uneven dagger
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I like dissun drip, gimme more dissun

harsh panther
edgy urchin
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day 32 33 and 34 of asking embark to balance the game!
playing against a 2 light and 1 medium team isnt fun, no wonder people say this game fell off

shell cliff
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make it so you can choose your soundtrack season, so you can play with season 1 soundtrack (it was the best one)

uneven dagger
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Season 1 and 2 soundtracks were fire

modern ether
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if someone leaves on my team in world tour I should be allowed to leave and not get a 1 hour suspension. Like are you serious?

drifting acorn
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Custom game list

you can join other peopleā€™s custom games, or make your own
you can change the settings if youā€™d like, changing game events or change the roles allowed, or change the weapons allowed, or change the maps
you can change the setting of the match, public or private
(PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO THIS)

jovial sonnet
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Turn spear spin attack into a hold input. If you hold the button it spins forever, but if your just tap it once you only do one swing. Im too scared to use the alt attack cause it thr enemy just walks away then im stuck in a huge animation.
Add practice arena to private matches & add a mode that ahs no objective & just lets you mess around in the map, & you can change your class and gear in the pause menu on the fly

raw moss
feral shell
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3v3 cashout please for the love of god. This third party nonsense is aids. its no better or worse than before but its still just not fun and not competitively viable.

tribal spoke
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So uh what does the devs want me to do vs lights as a medium with dual blades?

silk bough
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Please dont pair up all ruby teams against plats

swift gust
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Thanks for the wonderful decision of TA ranked and making Light class a zero skill over powered shit, new players dont even want to try this game and old players started leaving the game. Light class now feels like the Nuke from season 1 where the nukes pushed away players. And devs are doing the same mistake again. Light class never needed a buff

sonic spoke
digital dragon
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Yall gotta fix the ranked system. Im in gold and Im tired of randomly getting queded up with Rubys and Diamonds

tight verge
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I think I finally know why 90% of the players quit...

haaaaaaaa. just out of a powershift game and it wasnt it.

While malding a little, the Discord call of a few friends came to a unanimous conclusion that I feel matches what I hear very consistently from everyone I know who still plays this game. That is:

"This game was so much better before, why can't we go back to ___"

You fill in the blank... I agree with the sentiment. Still think my favorite time in this game was my hours in open beta. I played CA1 and missed CA2, then got the opportunity to revisit my absolute favorite game in OB. Everything was so fresh, guns felt great, sure the V9s was really oppressive, but everything else felt so... GOOD. Weapons felt really balanced, performance was fantastic (144fps D: in my dreams) movment wasn't sluggish like I remembered, this was THE GAME OF OUR TIME.... but then things changed. I can't put my finger on it. Sure, we discovered the meta and the honeymoon phase wore off, but I don't think that's all of it.

I think there are 2 big core problems that if fixed could really bring this game back.

1, There is a meta formed and it is really boring, stale, and unfun. I'm sorry, there are only 5 weapons that everyone runs. Lewis, fcar, AK, xp, and now Bow. In a game that has so many diverse unique weapons, that is a CRIME. buff up the less used, specialized weapons so we can get some more diversity!

2, There are so many ways to die in this game that are NOT FUN. Ya know what makes me want to rage and complain the most? Dieing to 2 stacked mines as a dagger light. Or getting 90% of my HP taken by a TURRET WITH PERFECT TRACKING. or worst of all getting Tazed from an INVIS LIGHT.

Dieing should be fun too, and it can be, but there are so many cheeky unrewarding ways to die in this game that really ruin the fun and distract from all the great things about the game. That's all done yapping. Hope this is seen and acted upon because I really think this is the core issue.

eternal aspen
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Please buff the CL-40, it's super weak now

storm bolt
jagged cedar
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fix sledge destruction registration

these instances where what im trying to break refuses to break didn't used to happen and started sometime around the start of s2

idle ocean
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Can there be the ability to shuffle the teams in a private match without having someone leave or te make a lobby. I have foud this to be very annoying when I am playing with small groups of people with it taking longer to load in and the teams are more easy to have fun with changing them often. So that is why adding a shuffle button fir the team would be nice to make the experience alot more smoot.

jagged furnace
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Why does it take 16 mags to kill someone

misty plover
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wdym šŸ˜­

proven venture
eternal aspen
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Plz buff the CL-40, it's stupidly weak

thick sorrel
# rapid stream how the fuck is this okay.

@quiet quarry said just counter it, hide or throw goo. You shouldn't have been there in the first place... haha

@jagged cedar funny enough it's the effective range of Lights (except you run Sniper, LH1)
Even Stun Gun has only 12m

jagged cedar
languid oasis
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I had 3 games of quick cash and my teammates leave instead of trying to win cause they get killed a couple times this is extremely annoying and makes it hard for me to even want to play I doubt there is anyway to make people want to stay in game if they loosing though

quasi niche
umbral dock
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you guys gonna fix the bug where you can't use throwables/specialties/gadgets? its been like 10 months now lmao

real scroll
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Medium shotgun needs a serious nerf. It has way to much range and shoots way too fast.

vapid path
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We need a black or brown bob color, and a 93R buff with a silver colored skin I think.

sharp briar
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Can we just nerf light. Xp is way too accurate

pseudo latch
# jagged cedar fix sledge destruction registration these instances where what im trying to bre...

Think this is more a problem of Syshorizon specifically. Theres a lot of individual breakable parts of each building that seem to just result in a bunch of tiny holes instead of useful ones. Itā€™s a problem demat users run into as well, where their demat s are eaten on tiny holes or double-ply walls.

Also @dim pawn man you just seem insistent on pissing on everyoneā€™s shoes today.

jagged cedar
white snow
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How to fix cpu 90-100% load
Spec 13400f rx6800 32gb ddr5

ripe seal
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Can we get text chat on console

sudden holly
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gaming is dying, we need emerald rank now. Changing the ranked mode to Terminal attack was the worst idea ever

boreal rivet
# eternal aspen Please buff the CL-40, it's super weak now

It was nerfed for terminal attack, it's a weapon that can check corners and obliterate lights. I understand why Embark did it but I do agree, the weapon is now hot trash. Maybe they can add a modifier that makes the nerf only apply in TA.

acoustic gust
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PLAYERS ARE STILL GETTING STUCK AND CAN'T MOVE AT THE START OF THE MATCH, THEN GETTING KICKED FOR INACTIVITY!!!!! GADGETS ARE STILL BUGGED AND CAN BECOME LOCKED AND ARE UNUSABLE FOR THE REST OF THE MATCH!!!!!

HOW ARE YOU THIS FK*#&@ INCOMPETENT?!?!?!?!?!

real scroll
ripe seal
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Can we get text chat on console

plain kindle
barren iron
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Can we like not start in games that are already half way done cause people already start on the losing team and then everyone leaves once they start that losing game

red knot
# eternal aspen Please buff the CL-40, it's super weak now

tbh. it only needs 1-2 more rounds of ammunition and higher building damage.

also, the problem is more the fact that lights weapons are a bit to strong compared to a normal classic "glass canon" class.
Throwing knifes are the only weapon that REALLY needs a Nerf.
that would make it easier to fight lights with a CL-40 and any other weapon.

quick coyote
# swift gust Thanks for the wonderful decision of TA ranked and making Light class a zero ski...

Fr fr light also just keeps getting more insane shit to their equipment too. Sure they have 150 health, but they also have the smallest fucking hitbox, fastest default run speed. Plus their movement tech and equipment.
How is a casual player who can't play 10 hours constantly a day and practice in the range for 5 hours supposed to kill a light that can 2 tap or even 1 tap you. Skill issue is just a stupid defense mechanism they use

random cypress
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pls add balisong dagger skin

lapis oriole
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Horizon needs some variations like a fixed version or the floor is lava IDK

restive pelican
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I don't understand why people are crying about not having team loss penalty.
90% of my games ARE STILL DETERMINED FROM THE LAST CASHBOX.

The team wipe penalty was too high and way too unfair.
You can protect cashouts, them get unlucky 3rd party and lose basically everything. It was ridiculous.

The changes are awesome!

delicate star
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U could literaly say this in the Google docs they sent

dull elm
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tysm embark for making it "as a team"

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serene cedar
# restive pelican I don't understand why people are crying about not having team loss penalty. 90...

yeah i really don't feel like people are giving no team wipe penalty enough time. After a few dozen games i genuinely enjoy not having to hide to win and not having to worry about not dying after a cashout. I really don't think team wipe + 30% initial vault plug can work together. Imagine you didn't get the vault in, but you managed to steal and win the cashout, only to die to a team trying to a third/fourth party. Even though you won the cashout, you lost because everything is on cool down and your team is low. You virtually only received 40% of that cashout now. Maybe they'll lower the team wipe %, but i like that you're able to play the game without risking losing now

wind meteor
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Hey guys, does anyone know where I can suggest a rule for cash out? I'm not really good at using discord, so if someone can guide me to a site or a channel to give in my suggestion. āœŒļø

shut aspen
#

A 5v5 Quick Cash gamemode would be so fun
I would love more 5 stack modes as I usually play this game with a group of friends so having more modes like Quick Cash, Bank It, or even just a regular TDM would be great. Powershift and Terminal Attack are already really good additions, but it would be nice to have another mode to play.

red knot
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embark, could you not give me a team of people that are constantly dying because they jump into the void?
thanks.
edit: with that i mean that you should update your matchmaking system

dense ocean
#

day 2 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

bronze heron
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matchmaking sucks. auto lose to 3 stacks

wide inlet
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I have enjoyed the finals, unlocked everything so far and put a bit of money into it as a thank you to the devs, but "stop opponents from stealing your cashout or decrypting a terminal 15 times" is a joke.
Devs if you continue with these unfun objectives, could you consider allowing us to switch weeklies by spending some of our coins at least?

It's such a shame.

smoky gust
# golden rock I feel like people tend to overvalue the defib, because on paper it has a huge i...

a bit late to the party but i still wanted to talk about this

you don't need to revive someone out of line of sight with defib (and i honestly have never seen anyone do this)
even in the worst of circumstances, in an open field, if a defib goes off, its still a 2v1 you have to face
even if the medium was at half hp when pulling it off (and you are at full hp when the engagement started), you still need to deal 250 damage to eliminate both players
they also need to deal 250 damage to kill you, the only difference?
they have twice your dps
and thats not even accounting for stuff like repositioning your crosshair after the first guy is dead, total ammo capacity, if they run healbeam to surpass this downside, etc.
someone at 175 may be an easy pick, but only if they're alone, which they almost never are
even if they are, if you're in/near a building, there is a good chance they might run
another person you now have to chase

mines and frags can be countered
you can jump away from a frag and you can avoid mines decently often by playing a little more carefully
and even if you are hit, that doesnt mean you WILL die
you can hide and the user has to follow up on it

with defib all you can really do is shoot the guy while he defibs, which rarely gets them before 50%, leaving you in the scenario explained earlier
and to even do that you need to camp the staue
you are forced into waiting around and to use one of the most boring tactics, just so you can make sure defib isn't even stronger than it already is

decreasing the manual revive time would result in us seeing less defibs, sure
but the time is currently pretty well fit to notice the statue is gone, run after it and punish a careless revive
which then also forces them to abort the revive, another downside defib doesnt have

modest dew
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please fix WT matchmaking, freshly going into ranked going against a 3 stack in heal beam defib AKM mediums when i just got in that are all max rank is not enjoyable

nova robin
#

guardian turret is too fast

sharp briar
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You killed your competitive scene. Change it back to save your game.

restive pelican
eternal kayak
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You guys are ruining this game with lame gadgets and poor balancing. Itā€™s often feels punishing to use guns in some engagements. The throwing knives, the bow, the wench itā€™s like this stuff gets out of hand and is so easily abused when combined with gadgets. I really wish this was a shooter game but idek what this is at this point. I really hate what this game has become like a bullet deflecting sword do you guys hate those of us who just want to shoot our gun? Like are serious I have to keep running around because he can deflect fucking bullets? I canā€™t deflect his sword what kinda shit is this?

jagged furnace
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i have a feeling that devs are not going to fufill any feedback given to them by the community, if they opened their eyes and realized that people see a potential in this game and that is why we are all still here playing and making comments about feedback because we all could have just easily uninstalled but we didn't, because we know that one day if the devs got off their asses and started putting in real effort we may like what they do in the future

stark turtle
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Map changes can be good for mid season update, maybe changing some areas in some maps can freshen up some of the OG maps and is easier than making completely new maps

steel marlin
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spawn your team back to near your cashout if it isnt stolen ffs. its so dumb that an enemy team can just spawn closer to your own cashout after both of you wipe.

quick coyote
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LOADING SCREEN STUCK PLEASE FIX IT DEVS!!!!! SERIOUSLY? WHAT PATCH NOTES SAID? YEH ITS FRICKING SCAM

sand quiver
eternal kayak
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Season 3 is a real shit show. They added a bunch of bullshit weapons that fuck up the flow of the game, made some poor adjustments to existing weapons, added one of the most beautiful maps that plays absolutely horrible it was just a disappointment especially for those whoā€™ve been here since Beta. Season 2 was exciting but this was disappointing. Embark always delivers on cosmetics tho they have the best skins and stuff of any shooter no contest.

mossy karma
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Winch needs to be reworked or (if you guys can't balance it properly) removed from the game

Melee Heavies were doing totally fine with goo gun or slam in S2 and im saying this as S2 D2 Sledge heavy main

Winch + Sledge is a cancer combo which is very popular among noobs who still can't do shit and barely make 5 kills in a round but ruin normal people experience and make them quit the game

Here's my idea how winch claw should be reworked:
ā€¢ CD increased to 10-15 seconds
ā€¢ Reduce distance from which you can reach the rival with a hook
ā€¢ Increase the distance between the victim and those who use the Winch Claw by the time grapple animation ends
Ā° Lights are the fastest and are dragged almost as close to the Winch user as they are now
Ā° Mediums are dragged close but out of reach Sledge secondary attack
Ā° Heavies are dragged close but out of reach of Sledge primary and secondary attacks
ā€¢ Make it possible for victims to shoot and equip/prepare (but not use) gadgets during hook animation
ā€¢ Fix winch dragging players through obstacles

You might also give this reworked winch to mediums as they lack distance-breaking Specialization for melee setups

quick coyote
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Optimization : I suggest updating the game engine to 5.4 in a future patch, as well as updating all available upscaling solutions to newer versions like DLSS to 3.7.0, XeSS to 1.3, and FSR to 3.1 (FSR Frame gen too). UE 5.4 brings more optimizations which make the performance better and that should improve the general game experience for people in combination with the updated better upscalers. Also, add DirectStorage api to improve loading, there are times where all players are stuck to a loading screen for the match due to singular users with slower machines, and DiSto can eliminate/lower that.

bronze heron
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please change the location of certain cashouts stations. some location are impossible or unfair to contest

vast hornet
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im still getting stuck on loading screen then i keep on getting banned pls fix embark dont send out updates about "how you fixed a problem" if you really didnt

misty plover
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WE NEED TIME LIMITED EVENTS PLEASEE

blissful void
teal minnow
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Buff distance for thermal vision ,and make it that you can't use it while sniping

glass sequoia
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Please let us preview how skins for guns look with our current equipped drip

timid island
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Match the visual recoil of the guns to the actual recoil so that new players like the feel of the guns more

deep summit
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The devs keep outdoing themselves, keep on adding terrible update after terrible update, the game's downfall should be studied.

crisp oxide
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can u guys make it so the lewis gun is good again :(((((

velvet olive
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Keep doing good guys! Enjoy your vacation! šŸ˜™

vast hornet
zealous pulsar
crisp oxide
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when u get back from vacation can we make it so the Lewis gun is good again tho pretty plz u made melee heavies so damn powerful now its not as cool šŸ˜¦

stray valley
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ranked should be 3v3 or 5v5, third parties is boring

deep summit
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Every single weapon type needs a 'reload' (could even be a short delay like 2 seconds) you cant swing a big hammer 24/7 there should be a delay, this also goes for the throwing knife (genji cant throw infinite shurikens constantly, he has a 'reload)
Very hard to outrun a swinging heavy, that makes no sense

It's for balance, and reinhardt is german powered, he literally has built in jets, a regular human cant swing 24/7
Well the devs like to put out experimental updates that ruin the game, they should playtest it because rn melee weapons are unbalanced, most of the game is unbalanced.
They added an update that requires more skill, encourages third partying and playing aggressive, but no skill based match making.
v

lusty cloud
stable path
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Please add a V9S animations pack

velvet olive
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Please do an MGL32 animation pack

gaunt perch
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Skill-based matchmaking for quick cash

quick coyote
uneven dagger
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I want fcar iron sights back Moyai

copper lark
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Just a thought, kinda curious how others feel about it but what if we moved stun gun to medium.

Medium struggles with gap closing making riot shield and dual blades pretty awful, thematically i think it works on medium. most of the casual playerbase does not like light because of stun gun and mobility, giving mediums a solution to the lights mobility could be good. It might need the stun duration tweaked or something else about the effect nerfed but i was just thinking about it today.

If this is a bad idea feel free to say it I haven't thought it out fully but it seems like a solution to some of the problems

deep summit
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They should remove this channel, not one piece of feedback has been implemented from this channel since beta, you just ignore the major issues of your game:

  • No skill based match making
  • Cheaters (Mainly DMA because it bypasses easy anti cheat with ease) Each game I play at least 1 DMA user
  • Full premade teams will go against solo queuers (not a fair matchup)
  • Accurate audio needs a lot of work
  • Terrible balancing
empty violet
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Suggestions:

In-game chat for added friends (i really want to talk with the friends that i meet in game and dont have added to steam, but I can only talk when we are in a party)

Maybe risky suggestion:
Thermal vision for all classes (with lower duration and higher cooldown) and keep the invis unchanged

  1. higher reload time for sniper and a little more of damage fallof, or make the zoom a little bit blurred
lusty cloud
# copper lark Just a thought, kinda curious how others feel about it but what if we moved stun...

I have been thinking about this recently too, in combination with a lot of gadgets being moved around. Personally, i would be interested in seeing embark test a few gadgets being moved around. Id like to see them flesh out each role with an intended clear purpose. If the only change was to move stun gun to medium a clear downside to that is the frustration of getting on top of a pocket healer. Mediums are the most powerful when they can resource dump into heavys, other mediums, and even lights. They should be a little more vulnerable in that regard considering they have jumppad and zipline as extremely powerful movement abilities.

I think an interesting test would to move jumppad and zipline to light, while light gives back its recon tools (recon nade and tracking) + stun gun and possibly even glitch nade but not sure on that.
There might be some shortcomings to this, the main thing i see right now is mediums would NOT be happy losing movement options. That being said i think its possible moving in this direction would give each roles utility clearer guidelines:
Light would provide strong movement and offensive utility
Medium would provide general purpose and rounded utility (offense and defense)
Heavy would provide strong defensive utility

Sorry for the yap sesh just wanted to share.
Tldr just moving stungun to medium would likely still be pretty frustrating, but could possibly work with other changes
(Lastly, i should mention this is speculative/theory crafting. I fully recognize this could straight up be ass. I would be interested in hearing possible downsides to this)

tepid summit
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ive got one small thingy, i would like to see vintage halloween and vintage christmas cosmetics namaheart

buoyant shale
#

why the fuk is snipers still in TA?

burnt notch
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I wanna minigun

@oak smelt honestly

quick coyote
oak smelt
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Snipers should have more bullet drop off and should be 250 headshot dmg

remote drift
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Why is it when I get stuck in a lobby full of plat3+ (and 3 rubys -- im plat4, literally only one guy less elo than me), I absolutely smoke everyone in terms of stats (18 kills and second in support -- all the ruby players had 5 kills), we win 7-1, yet I only get +500? Like... cmon. I've been trying to avoid cheating the elo system by farming and crap but I feel like that's the only way to get past the plat barrier because playing well simply doesn't reward at all. I was 32k this game, everyone on the enemy team was 34-50k yet I still can't rank up because the elo system doesn't actually balance how well I do compared to my teammates

P.S. Did some math: I'd have to repeat this 47 times over to get to the same rank those ruby players are at. That seems ridiculous to me.

P.P.S. I know I, like many others, give a lot of negative feedback and rarely show gratitude for the game. Development is hard, game development even more so. Thanks for all the effort you guys put into adding content to the game. Imho, this game is far better than other games of its class (mostly Apex -- I've played a lot of that) and I appreciate the community that backs it. I hope the game can keep improving and we can keep things fun.

glacial knot
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Who knows when embark unlock emerald rank in world tour ?

queen widget
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still crashing 5/6 games, also got a suspension without a chance to rejoin my world tour game

fickle oracle
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Ladder is the fuckin' stupidest item. Imagine that when you were fighting with enemies, you moved left and right and then you started to climb a ladder suddenly and surprisingly. You got killed by enemies ridiculously.
You, embark studio, gotta think about the solution to avoid this accident.
Thank you.

upper citrus
# copper lark Just a thought, kinda curious how others feel about it but what if we moved stun...

I donā€™t think this would be a great idea hereā€™s why

Medium is designed to support teammates with great utility and healing while also having the weakest weapons of the 3 classes. This is okay because it means that if youā€™re playing medium well, youā€™ll always be next to a teammate when the possibility of being flanked or targeted is there. You are supposed to lose most 1v1s as medium because you are meant to be taking 2v1s instead. Riot shield and dual blades are both defensive based melee weapons that should be strong at providing defensive utility for you and your team while also having enough attack power to discourage enemies from rushing you, but not strong enough to make a rush down playstyle viable. These both succeed at the second part but the issue is that they donā€™t provide enough defensive utility. Since they both can be held down indefinitely, it would be cool to see another ability added to both of the melee weapons that focuses on defensive utility. Maybe the riot shield could bash people backwards similar to Brigitte from overwatch, creating a dynamic of choosing between the utility of area control vs the damage of hitting people with the baton.

Kind of rambling but yeah I personally donā€™t think giving medium 1v1 power is a great idea. Move more power into support tools. And not just healing beam, medium desperately needs more active and engaging support tools, most of it is passive and boring right now

scenic root
#

The Finals are perhaps a little less optimized. My PC configuration is i5 11400 RTX3070 32RAM, and my fps is just under 100. Is this a problem with my computer or the game's optimization?

copper lark
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true true, good points, i was thinking the model would need nerfed if they got stun for sure, i mean model already strongest weapon on the class and needs nerfed so.. and lights have other ways of being useful tbf, even in scrims stun isnt mandatory frag grenade gets picked a lot. jsut tryna figure out how to appease the casual community and how they seem to hate light for being op but also useless at the same time

magic widget
#

Anyone else agree the spear should get its damage buffed? I feel like I can only get kills with it after I get the jump on someone when theyā€™re alr half health

hollow breach
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nerf medium shotgun dmg fall off and fire rate

sour shoal
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my feedback is that I hate players that use heavy im about to start throwin shi around

sonic spoke
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Heavy smash!

boreal sentinel
#

When will M and H ever get a fucking long range marksman weapon? Ffs. How do u bloody counter a fucking L sniper from the other side of the bloody map

shrewd oriole
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After slamming from a certain height with charge and slam heavy should be able to go through multiple floors. I want mass destruction.

copper lark
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i just find stuff op if it takes over pro scrims, and tournaments, every medium in like scrims/pugs etc uses model, its super rare to see anything else now. model is just so dominant right now in high elo. its not op for casuals but its tricky to balance for both elos

Curious to see how the meta changes with time but we have a drastically different elo in low to high elo but i never consider anything op unless it takes over the pro scene like sa12 mesh, heal defib model, etc etc

quick coyote
sonic thorn
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FIX YOUR SHITTY ASS GAME FUCKING NO WAY THAT A HEAVY CAN 2 HIT YOU

lusty cloud
broken geyser
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Revert the Lewis and M60 changes or reduce its recoil at the very least it's unbearable

The game should also have better optimisation for controller players. Give more button optimisation for controller players for example being able to swap to an item with the double tap or triple of a button or swipe on the middle pad of a controller. And also holding certain buttons do a different function to that of that just pressing it or even giving one function like jumping or shooting to different keybinds so u can choose what u are comfortable with given the situation.

ebon peak
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I think the problem with TA is that the current maps are not TA or tactical shooter friendly, secondly, you guys need to consider TTK. TTK in tactical shooters are insta kill headshots or 2, 3 hit body shot.

sonic wigeon
#

INCREASE WINPOINTS FOR WORLD TOUR

autumn sedge
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Tbh they could just straight-up remove the SR. If players want to snipe: they can with the LH. No point in having a weapon that's op at long range and can still be used at short range

@oak smelt the problem is that in the long range it's the only weapon besides the lh1 that can fight, and thus it creates tons of one-sided scenarios

@remote drift and what if you're in the open area of kyoto, or the open area in SYS&HORIZON or the open area in duck monaco, where the cashout is? And how will mines even help? And what if you don't have a heavy?

dim pivot
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Loving the challenges that make me play other modes, great way to get me off of playing powershift 24/7 - gave WT and TA a go and I have to say I am impressed with how amazing each mode is. Met some great people too. hug_friend šŸ”„šŸ”„

thorn elbow
#

whoever whipped up kyoto deserves so much less than what they got holy fuck

peak moss
#

Letā€™s just not have a 1 shot dagger. Nerf lights.

olive vector
#

We BADLY need Kill cam pleeeeeaasseee!

remote drift
vale acorn
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I'd like to see class specific mechanics like a longer slide or wall jumping on light, lean peaking for medium and maybe a tactical dodge roll for the heavy

copper lark
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oh of course the difference between elos is massive, but the more a casual plays the closer they get to the same balancing problems high elo gets as their skill and knowledge improves. people argue medium needs weak weapons because they are the healer/support but i argue they should have good options because medium should not be purely balanced around the fact heal and defib are so overpowered and almost mandatory.

candid crystal
#

Another update to nothing but the store let's go šŸ˜ˆ

copper anvil
formal knot
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Change these 3 Colors for normal static Colors like Green, Orange, Pink etc.
Edit : You can almost make them more rewarding by having some sort of color animation for all set of colors once you reach a specific level, like 7.

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vast hornet
glacial knot
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BAN WAVE TIME, TA cheaters switched to world tour because in TA too much cheaters . So some cheaters tuink they have more chance to win against legit players in world tour than in TA. @dense gulch

deep summit
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The Finals devs keep releasing bad update after bad update, their downfall should be studied

lusty cloud
# copper lark oh of course the difference between elos is massive, but the more a casual plays...

This is the crux of where embark struggles with balance. Is the model OP? Definitely not. Very Strong? Absolutely. I think its important to note that the playstyle of medium at the moment is to kick back and heavily support your team (in competitive play). Having a mid-long range rifle isnt really necessary if you are pocketing 1-2 heavies, when the alternative is having a very powerful close ranged weapon to make you an even harder threat to collapse on.

All of this is to say, they better not nerf the model, because i dont think thats where mediums pain points lie. (Very powerful util like med beam and defib on top of very powerful mobility gadgets)

drifting acorn
#

can you give me teammates who arenā€™t fucking schizophrenic

thick sorrel
uneven dagger
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can mediums get some kind of secondary handheld tool like lights and heavies sadcat1

winged belfry
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would you please REMOVE LOW GRAVITY? THANKS.

copper lark
remote drift
# copper anvil "play heavy" isn't that great of a solution tho, that leaves out mediums lol

Or cloak, or riot shield/swords (okay, swords suck, but still).
Also, heavies are not the only ones that "play indoors", and I mentioned mines, which are primarily M's responsibility. You can also just be a light and counter as a sniper. That's what I do. XD

I used to be on the "snipers suck and should be banned from TA" train. Then I realized 9/10 of them are brainless at strategy and countering them isn't actually that hard. Now I think they aren't as big of a deal as everyone makes them out to be. I'm pretty decent against sniper as any class now tbh (but again, light is my fav; getting them to ragequit after head-boinking them 5 times in a row is soooo satisfying).

There's a reason they aren't really a problem in the higher ranks.

@thorn elbow
Bro just wants a big phat git revert XD

oak flame
#

an option to change watch hands would be nice

thorn elbow
#

REMOVE KYOTO
BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT

jagged vector
#

Nerf lights, cloak used more up every time dash only has 2 and sniper has 4 rounds

plush coyote
#

Hey folks, the more I play this season, the more I've been thinking about ways to improve it and make it fair (especially for Quickplay and World Tour players):

1.Allow us to queue up for multiple Quickplay game modes:
This is something similar to a match composer from Halo, so basically the player would be able to choose what game modes in Quickplay they wanna play and queue up for it. It's annoying that we can only search for 1 game mode at time

2.Allow us to queue up for Ranked/World Tour game modes while playing in a Quickplay match:
This is something that I've seen in a indie game called Due Process, basically, that game allowed you to queue up for a ranked match while playing casual matches, the way it worked was the following: While playing in a casual match or at menu, you could search a ranked match, a pop up would appear showcasing that a match has been found with the number of players who accepted to join the ranked match, you can then choose to either accept to join the ranked match or leave (if you leave, you would stop queuing up for a ranked match), a total of 10 players were needed for the ranked match to begin, and if all 10 players who queue up for a ranked match accepted to join in, then these 10 players would be booted out of their casual match if they were playing one or they would simply join the ranked match if they were waiting at the menu

3.Implement World Tour into every Quickplay game modes:
This one I've been thinking about a lot lately, since World Tour is basically a game mode that reward the player who has a lot of ''Endurance'', wouldn't make sense if all players from Quickplay would also get rewarded for playing the game for a really long time? It just seems odd for me to split the player base into 3 (maybe 4 if you count private matches) categories which is Quickplay, World Tour and Ranked, I feel it would be more just to reward all Quickplay players for their time played as well instead of only World Tour players

icy peak
#

I find team balancing to be horrible in this game shits worse then counter strike

lusty cloud
# copper lark Yeah I mean i'd prefer everything get buffed up but model is the best med weapon...

I strongly agree. I guess my point was its hard to justify bringing up the power of Meds weapons, when it has some of the most powerful utility across the board. I don't know if you caught it, but its another reason why I think they should experiment giving light jumppad and zipline, while also giving some of the recon util back to medium. Medium is stuck having mediocre weapons is a sympton of the class just having way too much in their abilities. Healing and Defib are arguabley the strongest util in the game, ON TOP of having just as strong of team movement options and higher hp than the light. There is no reason to justify running light in higher level play because why run a mobility class, when another class that provides even stronger util can do the same thing. All of this leads to medium having the weakest gun options because if they had stonger guns, the very very limited reasons to run light now would go to 0.

Again, id like to see how high level lobbys would play if light provided the team with mobility. If you want to stack mediums and heavys, it should come at a cost, IE mobility.

Thats just my 2 cents

civic orchid
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how great is this game with a great anti-cheat system I just lost 1500p to a cheater hitting through shields, this game just deserves to die no matter how badly you devs are working, the name of the cheater in question for anyone who finds it against because he will never be banned anyway because the devs don't work, anyway the name is (AthleticButcher#2680) have a good day.

upper citrus
pseudo latch
#
  • Fix Bow hitreg so my arrows arenā€™t duds at close range
  • Give FCAR an identity again, lower its fire rate and up its damage so its a proper DMR and not an AKM sidegrade
  • Fix Revolver hitreg so my shots arenā€™t phasing through people.
  • Give M60 a purpose. Either tighten its hipfire and up its firerate so it can be used at close ranges effectively or increase its minimum damage so you can actually hurt people past 30.
  • Give Lewis its old recoil back. Not S2 recoil, S1 recoil. Itā€™s damage is comparable to mediums guns, itā€™s recoil should be to.
  • Fix KS23 hitreg so we arenā€™t firing blanks half the time
  • Increase MGL splash radius and/or make grenades detonate on enemy impact so the gun doesnā€™t demand a physics degree to be D-tier on its best days
  • Fix Flamer hitreg and give it something it does better than the SA12. Range, damage, better afterburn, something Iā€™m begging here.

Also Day 132 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

  • 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
  • 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
  • Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, youā€™re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
  • bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
    • significant damage to structures and players
    • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
    • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
    • its a goddamn minigun
  • - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
  • - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no ā€œpocket minigunā€ strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
  • - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD
radiant panther
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Hello devolopers, there this brand new challenge in stage 4 pro circuit (the second to last one) that is really annoying to complete and I didn't even get 1 out of 15 times.

I'd really love if you guys have an info button next to challenges explaining the challenge in further detail.

clever charm
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New cash out rule/idea

  • 4v4v4 (same 12 player count per match)
  • Single cash out box (just like quick cash)
  • 2 max class limit (can have up to 2 of heavy/med/light. ex. 2 heavy/1med/1light, 1 heavy/2med/1light, 1heavy/1med/2light)
  • Limit to one specialization to avoid stacking such as 2 medi, 2 stealth, etc
  • (Optional) Defib is on team util w/ global CD + 2 max stack. This unlocks one more utility option for med where they are practically 2 util + 1 defib for optimal play.
    ^ This idea also gives more option and deviates 1heavy/2med/1light for 2x defib vs other 2heavy/light combo
patent wind
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5v5 cashout

rotund torrent
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5v5v5v5 cashout

fleet socket
#

We need knights armor and a armor set for moolah so I can continue to bring it into combat on my hip

quartz cedar
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CAN WE GET A THROWING KNIFE NERF PLEASE

violet elbow
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the main issue with stun imo is that its used for kills, rather than to stop an enemy from chasing you.

I think slightly nerfing its cooldown to 23s and forcing you to reload straight away and THEN it goes on cooldown would fix the problem with stun being used for cheap kills.

same could be done with the RPG to prevent RPG + SA12 Spam, just force the Heavy into the RPG reload animation and THEN it starts the cooldown

high wing
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Suggested Improvements for Season 4.

Having barely engaged with Season 3 due to a lack of fundamental improvements, I propose the following changes for Season 4:

Implement server updates and improved netcode to address desync/delay issues.
Enhance hit-registration to ensure all shots/hits are accurately registered.
Improve game optimization for smoother gameplay, even on low settings.
Fix for both crashes to desktop and overall PC crashing.
Improve the unreliable and buggy parkour system.
Enforce permanent bans for cheaters.
Adjust the respawn system to prevent respawning teams from gaining an unfair advantage.
Display store credits accurately in euro or local currency.
Create more detailed player profiles, complete with match history and stats.
Allow the ability to view other players' steam profiles.
Introduce class and loadout-specific keybindings.
Add a default skin setting in the equipment menu.
Improve visibility of stats/numbers on weapons and gadgets.
Undertake comprehensive balancing improvements.

Despite understanding that the game was released in an early alpha stage and remains so, it's crucial to prioritize these basic game improvements over the introduction of new content.

winged belfry
#

-- Indra ā€” 30/07/2024 23:03
Can we remove low gravity
--Distortion ā€” ayer a las 21:57
Low gravity adds absolutely nothing to the game. It ruins the end of games completely.
--Adult.MikeLFC ā€” hoy a las 17:05
fuck low gravity
--Plank: The AKM Connoisseur ā€” hoy a las 17:05
i hate low gravity so no....
--Saggy_Spaghetti ā€” hoy a las 17:06
bring back trip wires and turrets and remove low gravity

These are just a few of the last opinions expressed here. Just look for them, everyone hates it...

languid hamlet
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snipers in ta is annoying

pseudo latch
serene cedar
lament vessel
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If one of our teammates abandons the game, let us disconnect without a penalty, PLEASE

hardy bridge
elder folio
copper lark
lusty cloud
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What if heal beam overheated extremely fast if the person who you are healing gets shot. This means that its good for topping up way faster and getting back into the fight faster, but discourages just pocketing during engagements/firefights

@hardy bridge i think the problem is medium already has extremely powerful tools, buffing other things doesnt change how oppressive heal is

vale acorn
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Stop listening to petulant children whine without evidence and enjoy your vacation, also Kyoto is fine

feral shell
#

Heal beam is at its worst when thereā€™s 2 stacked on one player making them legitimately unstoppable. This is easily fixed by capping heal rate to that of 1 gun, negating the need for two healers.

Medium is the last class needing nerfs right now, itā€™s the only one even close to being balanced. If anything the class is underpowered right now, at least from an offensive perspective. If you want a lower heal gun pick rate then give medium another specialization worth using. Turret is easily negated by skilled players, and Demat is situationally good at best and in desperate need of a buff.

high wing
#

Suggested Improvements for Season 4.

Having barely engaged with Season 3 due to a lack of fundamental improvements, I propose the following changes for Season 4:

Implement server updates and improved netcode to address desync/delay issues.
Enhance hit-registration to ensure all shots/hits are accurately registered.
Improve game optimization for smoother gameplay, even on low settings.
Fix for both crashes to desktop and overall PC crashing.
Improve the unreliable and buggy parkour system.
Enforce permanent bans for cheaters.
Adjust the respawn system to prevent respawning teams from gaining an unfair advantage.
Display store credits accurately in euro or local currency.
Create more detailed player profiles, complete with match history and stats.
Allow the ability to view other players' steam profiles.
Introduce class and loadout-specific keybindings.
Add a default skin setting in the equipment menu.
Improve visibility of stats/numbers on weapons and gadgets.
Undertake comprehensive balancing improvements.
The Final(-round) in Cashout, is the most boring game mode ever, pretty much a running simulator. How can a game called The Finals, have the Final being so goddamn boring?

Despite understanding that the game was released in an early alpha stage and remains so, it's crucial to prioritize these basic game improvements over the introduction of new content.

hardy bridge
#

Gadget and spec wishlist:
Impulse grenade for light that knocks back players, like shockwave grenades from fortnite
Anti healing grenade/dart that makes enemies take more damage for light
Stim that increases movespeed and Heals 50 hp which can overheal for light
Healing pylon spec for medium
Sticky bomb launcher weapon for heavy like tf2's
Heat seeking flamethrower drone specfor heavy (seeks out nearest enemy withing x radius and starts flamethrowering them)
Air strike spec for heavy

uncut mulch
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Winch rework to make it cooler;
Instead of grabbing people it would hook on to surfaces like grapple but it wouldn't pull you so you would have to walk up a wall and could stay at one point and look around(like on a ladder)but while being abe to use weapon(kinda like scaling a building in rainbow six siege but with no upside down). If a shock wave gadget was added the heavys could use this to hook themselves to the floor so that there not affected by that. Maybe you could also make heavys attach the wench to ceilings and pull themselves up(not allowing the use of weapons while pulling up). Just an idea though.

Rpg is pretty balanced its the winch that needs nerf/rework

regal hearth
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Delete the Winch Claw
Delete the RPG

There is no counter, its not fun

hardy bramble
#

I know that next season Soundtrack better be good

cold mulch
#

Make whoever got the most damage on a kill get the kill, not the last person to damage

vast hornet
vale acorn
jolly igloo
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so many bugs need fixing since the release

  1. canā€™t use guns/gadgets/specialisation or all of them at once is so much more frequent now, 6/10 games I play itā€™s always there if not in the first round then itā€™s sure to be present in 2/3rd round
  2. didnā€™t have the loading screen bug until one patch where it was mentioned that it was fixed and since then i started getting it too tho itā€™s not very frequent
  3. charge and slamming sometimes gets u stuck in the slam animation while the debris just wonā€™t get destroyed and have to wait so long for it to release me, dk if itā€™s a bug or intended but it feels like the former
  4. server issues all the time, I have never played without the ping and packet loss indicator not on my screen (playing on asian servers living in india) have confirmed itā€™s not my internet fault server gets crappier when more destruction happens in the match
  5. most importantly reconnecting to a world tour match completely resets your loadout to the one youā€™ve selected on the home screen, if you chose a different class/specss/weapons/gadgets they all get reset to the one in the homescreen essentially letting players even change their class mid match
lament vessel
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Hey maybe don't have a challenge that requires 5 cashout interruptions!

It kinda fucking sucks!

broken geyser
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Revert the m60 and Lewis changes and pls pls pls reduce its recoil embark. I know you'll have holiday but I hope really hope this gets to you guys. Thank you.

crisp oxide
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enough of the damn triple light teams plz god fix something

wicked glade
#

Nerf the range on the XP like why is it outperforming assault rifles at longer ranges

velvet nexus
#

I really dont see the need to make players unlock all of the weapons at the start, or atleast let them pick their two starter weapons instead of forcing them onto basic weapons

smoky basin
pseudo latch
#

Id even argue we get S1 recoil back on Lewis. The recoil pattern was to balance itā€™s high DPS, but now itā€™s just got normal DPS

vast hornet
violet elbow
sharp crest
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the lh1 "recoil buff" is legit a nerf to the gun, getting rid of the visual recoil makes it harder to spray because it is kicking upwards with no visual indication, it actually makes it harder to use over season 2 lh1

untold seal
crystal umbra
#

I made my post (Christopher Cover) in a Finals Facebook group because it seems like the guy hates the new changes but I took up the advocate position.

I don't think people fully understand the game mode changes and I think that ruined the opinions people will have on it.

It's not terrible but I think alot of people don't clearly see the vision or something...

If the team wipe penalty came back I wouldn't cry but I think the way things are now are good and can use a bit more exploration.

Another option would be a "Siphon Effect" or a "Direct Deposit" effect where you take a percentage of the enemies team you kill. Upon team wipes the dieing team gets a 15% reduction in their score while the Killing team gets that 15% added to their score (or they get a 15% boost to their current score)

This could widen the gaps in score or even turn the tables for a team at the bottom or middle.

Maybe "Direct Deposit" is another āœØFREE IDEAāœØ and you use it as a game mode... Idk

Anyways, good changes. I think people need to get use to it a bit more or we need to experiment more before we revert anything.

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burnt horizon
#

The team balancing needs some adjustment Jesus Christ. I am gold in WT, why do I keep getting unranked teammates who back out. There needs to be a stronger penalty for people who leave mid game and donā€™t join back.

tiny owl
#

-Fun Suggestion.
A Customization Catalog.

A sort of catalog section in the homepage where you can test out/mix and match multiple clothing items at the same time to create an outfit and buy the items needed for it instead of the current mechanic we have now where we can only see how one item looks like at a time.

For example; If you wanted to see how the vaiiya special ops outfit would look like combine with the original special ops outfit and you donā€™t own either, you can go to the catalog and create an outfit combining both to see what it looks like before actually buying anything.

I think this would be a generally all-appreciated addition to the game.

turbid citrus
#

Did one of you receive feedback from devs about their feedback ? šŸ˜…

dense tinsel
#

respawns next the enemys? really? please, fix it"

distant sluice
#

TL;DR: Create a rep score to prevent frequently leaving games
yall gotta make some sort of punishment or rep score for leaving games so often. I dont think ive played a game in months that didnt have someone leave cause they got butthurt that they died or lost site.

Most games a team will lose a cashout, one will leave, then the rest will leave. I have played many games, often every day, where both teams completely leave the game. Then other people join an empty team and leave too.

I appreciated the lax treatment towards being able to leave a game if something irl came up, but this system is getting way too abused. It is very demotivating and annoying to play a game without a full team, and it is also not very fun to play against teams that are not full.

I understand this really only applies to casual, but it is WAY too common now. There needs to be some sort of reputation score that punishes players for frequently leaving games. Very often it is also the lights that leave the game, and they already lose most of their games so making the game a loss for them is not even close to enough to discourage this problem.

I know damn well that half of these people leaving games are getting mad that they cant 1v6 and win and continually leave games until they get to play against bots. This game is about teamplay, not leaving the game because the enemy team didn't like that you sniped them nonstop.

Nearly every game I join in solo queue is filling someone elses spot. Often I join a game on the losing side, no surprise. This is going to further ruin the casual experience.

velvet olive
#

Team Fortess 2 Shortstop / Pepper Gun esc weapon for light!

tight verge
#

Hear me out. I think weapons should be more specialized. My biggest issue with the game right now is the meta is stale and boring. I made a post about this issue yesterday in fact. My suggestion to solve this issue is to make the weapons more specialized to different senareos. Make more distinct subclasses. This would add SO MUCH more diversity to play styles and fights.

Example, Ak and fcar.
Right now? Pretty much functionally the same weapon. Sure there are tiny differences in function, but they both are used in the same way and accel at the same ranges. How about we make each weapon opposites? We make ak mid to close range, and the fcar far range? Change the damage falloffs so Ak damage drops off hard at mid range, and fcar does less damage up close. Boom, now you actually have to use your little monkey brain to strategically pick which weapon that best suits the map/team comp. It also allows for more complex play and outplays which will make fights WAY more interesting.

This same concept can apply to all the weapons. Just give weapons roles to fill! Make weapon choice just as influential as class choice. I canā€™t even imagine how dynamic and deep the combat would be at every level of play. I feel like the guns are just kinda there because itā€™s a fps and thereā€™s gotta be guns. Oh we need a burst rifle! Add an famas. Thereā€™s not purpose! What role does the famas fill that ak and fcar donā€™t? Literally nothing! Itā€™s just ā€œa burst rifle because we canā€.

Same with the bow and the sniper. REDUNDANT! The reason I love mele weapons so much is BECAUSE they have a very different, unique and, challenging play style.

On a partially but not entirely related note, there should be a FINALS TRIALS gamemode. The mode would be a rotation of bank it, cash out, and powershift, and would be STRICTLY for testing out wild Mets shifts that wouldnā€™t fly in normal patches. Try stuff like my above suggestions, or anything else! Then gage feedback with polls at the end of matches

crystal umbra
#

I feel strongly about this too.

It hurts to see the numbers are down. I struggle to see what else can be done to improve the game.

I personally see 1-2 ads per day across Facebook and YouTube.

Maybe marketing to more active/relevant aps would be a good idea? (I don't even have cable anyway)

Hopefully we can have more streamers offer some of their time.

Sponsor streams for content creator groups
I watch RDC alot and they already have played the game a couple times on their stream for season 1 & 2. They haven't tried Terminal Attack yet.
RDC
Jack Frags
WillFromWork
LevelCapWaming
Whoever, just cast the net wide
(Idk, announce sponsored streams so we can go support those streamers. It might be expensive to pay them but they will have us as an incentive, we boost their numbers and they get new subs... Idk bro lol do something)

The next season is coming up and that means year 1 anniversary, I think this next month & a half should be the time to advertise and build hype, maybe add some teaser trailers or something.

Maybe showing people actual gameplay trailors so they see that when they play the finals imthey will actually blow holes through walls.

Maybe a reintroduction "Hi, we are Embark and this is The Finals. We have spent the first year working on our game and we are excited to go forward into year two with all of you" type shxt... (Cuz I feel like the finals has kinda solidified itself in an undesirable spot and could use a do-over of sorts)

Currently the atmosphere component of the world tour where we get the new spots and the introduction music with Skotty and June is great. I feel like it's another step towards the right direction but we gotta lean more into the in game feel of being a superstar.
-Confetti
-Bring back "fame" in some way
&Spectate mode where we litterally sit in the stands and look down on the gameplay through and have some kind of screen where we can observe 1st person views of competitors too.
-Allow us to maybe wager or bet VRS in spectate mode since it's useless otherwise lol
Anyways, continue to go forward with the gameshow feel

When I play this game I get a rush. Adrenaline for the clutch moments, dopamine for the successful cashout, thrill for the intense team fights.

^^^^Advertise that! Don't just let Skotty or June say it, show it in a gameplay trailer. (I'm sure it's hard, but you guys are actually good AF at trailers)

Also, I think mid season game modes for testing is actually really good. Since we ain't getting a mid season mode to test we kinda feel a lil stale, just think that's good for keeping the numbers up.

Games that have more ways to play have higher numbers & unfortunately the finals kinda was bare from the beginning

tawny oriole
fresh granite
#

DLSS, FSR and XeSS could use updating. FSR is apparently easy to update to 3.1 from 2.0, DLSS is just a .dll drop-in. THESE would be low-effort but welcome updates

iron bough
#

Anyone playing this game to rank up in TA and World Tour, I feel sorry for you. The most unpleasant experience I've ever had in a video game. :C

graceful cedar
sharp belfry
#

Medium triple stack is so fun to play against

stark notch
#

What's funny is they see their game is dying, but had weeks of 'updates' that did nothing but change the store rotation. Then had a delayed update to announce emerald rank. 3 weeks later they spent an update to announce they're on vacation šŸ’€

I get they're trying to improve cashout before releasing emerald, but at this point that is what will bring back a huge chunk of players and it's being held hostage

tepid summit
#

Everyone in lobby should hear lobby music

stray valley
# stark notch What's funny is they see their game is dying, but had weeks of 'updates' that di...

lmao they doing the most out of any company ive seen. never seen a google doc asking about the future ranked mode. they're clearly passionate and have some great stuff cooking. they cant just wizz up a huge content update in a month or two. theres more to updates than just making it. bug fixing, testing, polishing etc

@stoic marten weren't a heap of ppl complaining abt the state of cashout and the third parties, yea 200k playing it for the first month or so of launch, then it dropped with 0 changes to ranked

mossy karma
stoic marten
# stray valley lmao they doing the most out of any company ive seen. never seen a google doc as...

surely they're doin so much they had to pad an actual versioning number with a "vacay announcement". It went from 3.6.0 to 3.7.0 for what, reskins of the same 3 guns that were most likely finished months ago? The survey is hilarious too, as if this spammed out feed-back channel wasn't enough for data mining they prop up yet another "hey we're actually still in beta" flag. What's doing better, scrapping the OG mode that saw 200k+ people playing it? Or live-testing random ideas in a desperate attempt to fix self-made problems that were never an issue of the mode itself to begin with? - They've put more work into tearing the game apart with random, uninspired, poorly balanced changes than they have adding things that would matter. Its why basic text-chat systems were added so late ROFL

@stray valley
The answer is right here:

"They've put more work into tearing the game apart with random, uninspired, poorly balanced changes than they have adding things that would matter."

CB2 and onwards showcased some of the worst thought out balancing in favor of overbotch-esque mechanics. And also their blatant disregard for taking everything into consideration when re-balancing things. Their idea of nerfing "nukes" was to nerf Heavy's c4 gadget into the ground over the course of several changes instead of just making cannister/c4 hitboxes larger. (Cause counterplay is boring I guess? JUST NERF IT LOL)

Complaints about 3rd party BS cropped up when they botched the spawn system (probably rigging it to an MMR based distance shindig) and when Medium had the unnerfed Sonar + Recon, 3rd Party BS had one of the best counterplay solutions to ever exist. Now that they're gone, it ain't a wonder the player count has plummeted.

coral forum
#

Sucks this game is slowly dying.. i had to turn xplay on just to q bankit..

tall kernel
#

Who ever thinks the scar nerf needs to be reverted, youā€™re crazy. I started using that thing 2 weeks ago for the first time, and I absolutely destroy people plus Iā€™m on controller.

vague tide
#

3.8 light weight nerf and heavy guns buff šŸ™

crystal umbra
# graceful cedar if this game doesn't get advertisements i will literally make them

Bro don't get me started.
-Fan made content
-Streamers offering stream time or getting sponsored for stream time
-Twitch events
-Esport Events
-Official Tournaments
-Tournaments getting immortalized in the training room
-āœØCOMPANY SYSTEMāœØ
-Fan made art
-3D cinematic shorts (moree)
+Fan made 3D cinematic shorts
-LITTERAL COMMUNITY EVENTS WHERE EMBARK GIVES US A LINK TO SHARE CONTENT ABOUT THE FINALS ACROSS SOCIAL MEDIA and maybe we get rewards for doing so, idk.

Litterally use us as free marketing PLEASE.

I'm just saying there is way too much shxt we are not doing right now and it's getting a bit frustrating.

stark notch
# stray valley lmao they doing the most out of any company ive seen. never seen a google doc as...

doing the most you've ever seen? lmfaoooo are you new to gaming or only play mobile games? I don't like fortnite, but they clearly do way more for their game. where was this google doc asking about rank mode before changing it from cashout to terminal attack that nobody wanted? that pushed away the rest of the players that dropped lol

I'm not saying have a huge update every week; I'm responding to someone that sees the game dying and I suggested they need to push out the emerald rank to increase player numbers before it's too late.

bug fixing sure, I see more bug creation and bugs that haven't been fixed since the betas.

agile hound
# stark notch doing the most you've ever seen? lmfaoooo are you new to gaming or only play mob...

alt acc coz slow mode

as someone whos gotten max rank in fn every season except prev szn and current, they dont give a shit lmao. they removed a crucial part of teams strategies hours before the biggest tourney of the szn, FNCS. so yea dont compare to epic games

the ranked change was probably not the greatest bet, but realistcally they cant win, people would complain about their precious ranked mode being altered mid season with no warning. and it was just an experiment, its been made clear its not what we want, so they can tinker with the mode without people crying over the ranked meta changing every 3 weeks
as for bug fixing, a crucial part of fixing the bugs is knowing what causes them and how to recreate them, find them a reliable way to replicate the heal beam bug or long loading screens and we're sorted.

u can reply by edting ur old msg if u wish

rancid cloud
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6.5 CD for Evasive Dash recharges is too punishing. If you think 5.5 seconds was too forgiving, maybe 6.0 is a good middle ground for ED recharges?

upper citrus
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5.5s dash was completely fine. No idea why people were complaining about ā€œevasive dashā€ being able to evade

half shadow
latent niche
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Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION Has unfortunately made me quit the game today after 250 hrs of gameplay.
I have reinstalled windows twice, uninstalled and reinstalled every single driver- I have, updated, reinstalled and reupdated nvidia game drivers, i have tinkered with my bios, i have disabled XMP, reinstallled core dlls I have done everything every single forum has said to do to fix "Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION and nothing has worked. i have , and I am unfortunately done.
Please at least address this so your community has some hope. Because i have wasted at least 24 hours of my life tryuing to diagnose this issue that has happened with no game aside from the Finals. I love it and I want to stream it, i want to get friends to play it - But I can't play an hour without crashing. Being suspended from TA Ranked for the loading screen hanging was the last straw.
I can see how much love and care you all have put into this game and I want to invest both my money, time and soul into It but I just can't load up to be in the middle of an insane gunfight and it freeze and crash and me have poured hours and hours and have done everything in my power to fix it. It is not my responsibility. It is however my problem because I want to play it so bad ;n; sad_friend

stray valley
scarlet sedge
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Is the text chat disabled rn? I can't see any texts nor can i send any

warm bluff
drifting schooner
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I think i like the 7 second steal change but can stealing in overtime give you a chance? if you get killed or let go the round is over. makes for that one last attempt after team wipes / finishing a 3rd party

rain scarab
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since april im trying to play ranked in this game. and if before i could find matches quite fast, now i'm waiting for 3-5 mins.

problem not with waiting for a match, problem with that game put me in duo against trios (speaking not about terminal attack. who thought that that's a great idea to make another CS clone). and ffs i can't leave, i can't fight (since its 90% chance to lose) and woah so fun.

its not only annoying, its the last call and round i put in this game. i'm sorry, i don't want to suffer for nothing

just why you can't make it work like in other games like apex - why i should be punished for not being able to play with a full team. that's unfair.

raw moss
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Embark needs to let use use any headwear with any facewear, etc. itā€™s just annoying as hell having my drip limited like this. Let me make any combination of drip, stop with these stupid and arbitrary limits on gear

night glen
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"5000 damage to enemies while they are standing on the platform" is stupid. You have to rely on the enemy getting on the platform. I have played a bunch of games with players seemingly trying challenges and never getting on the platform. Good challenge design again šŸ˜

crystal umbra
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āœØāœØFREE MARKETING IDEA: YEARLY FINALS TOURNAMENTSāœØāœØ

Kick off year two with an actual tournament with actual content creator groups playing and competing for CASH, similar to the official tournament a couple months ago.

An epic tournament with invited guests and assembled teams playing in the works greatest gameshow trying to earn real world money once again.

A twitch event where groups come together in a three day event. Build the hype and get their respective viewers watching and supporting them.
(Spread across 3 days to give viewers more subconscious time thinking about The Finals and they REALLY learn deeper components of the game)

1 official community tournament per season would be lit. Inviting out the top players to play against each other.
-here we start to see the crystalization of companies joining together and get repeat invitations to band back together and play (or by then the company system will already be a thing and invitation get sent out directly to the companies)

But each year we kick it up a few notches and we use the anniversary event as an opportunity to watch some of our favorite content creators play.

Build the hype! BE HAPPY. WE ARE ABOUT TO REACH 1 YEAR OF THE FINALSā€¼ļø

It's an achievement and it's worth celebrating. And the best way to celebrate The Finals is by playing it lol.

twin cave
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Less luck based circuit challenges like the steal/interrupt ones currently that can feel like a chore since it might take multiple matches to even get one with the right opportunity/team to do them, or at least making them like 5 is needed instead of 10+

signal badge
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man i am getting glitch all day long and the most painful part is some times i am not even connecting to a match after some time the ban me for abandoning a match
just now i got a ban for 30 min

sand shore
obsidian timber
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PLEASE go revert the chagnes to cash out in world tour. You are KILLING YOUR GAME

pallid ocean
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"stop opponents from stealing your cashout" challenge should be changed a bit.
they stop stealing 0.2 second before they die and I don't get progress, there should be like a half second grace period because I am clearly the reason the stopped stealing if I am beaming them down

burnt notch
# stoic marten surely they're doin *so much* they had to pad an actual versioning number with a...

Sir, 200k people were playing it because it was hyped up on release in the game awards. This happens with almost every game, player numbers peak at release due to hype and then go down after people stop playing after a bit.
And even though the devs have made some bad decisions in this season so far and even in s2, its been speculated that this is something of a filler season, which Iā€™m fine with as it lets me anticipate better things coming to the game.
I canā€™t believe ur letting previous mistakes of the devs to hurt ur faith in the game so much

cedar jolt
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Rework Stun Gun as an specialization and give it to Mediums.
It would fix Medium melee weapons as it gives them means to reach the enemies
It'd be fair since it is taking an specialization slot and not a gadget
It will probably need to have adjusted cd, range and effects since it would be an specialization
And would also reduce frustration from players hating Lights for having it as a gadget used for easy kills, they also already took sonars and tracking darts from meds anyway.
Medium is lacking a mean to make melee viable like Heavy got with Winch Claw, and I feel that Stun Gun as an specialization could cover this function for Mediums

signal willow
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stop with those dumb challenges that directly involve using the sniper, power shift is basically unplayable, that with those random changes to cashout, damn, just feels like everything yall can do right are doing it wrong, also, updating the store is not a "weekly update" šŸ‘

fiery osprey
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people need to give reasons and contructive feedback instead of whining like a toddler

verbal kayak
quick coyote
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revert back to season 2

dawn valley
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Cashout feedback: 20% wipe penalty, 20% cash for plugging the box, 30% trickle, and 50% on cashout. That will create less third parties since there is money to be won during the timer.

gaunt perch
autumn bison
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reminder to nerf throwing knives

quartz shell
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A.... āœØāœØ .... FREE... IDEA....āœØ āœØ ...... is..... nerf..... the.... medium.... shotgun... range...
cause... its... so... frustrating... ā—... ā—...

stoic marten
# burnt notch Sir, 200k people were playing it because it was hyped up on release in the game ...

The Game Awards happened in December, game was "released" as soon as it aired the first ever marketing material it pushed to the public. The betas happened BEFORE the Game Awards.
Funny that I was off by a bit, 260k not 200k. ROFL

You gotta wonder how many companies get to just make mistakes and never rebound after years of wishful thinking. This cycle has been on repeat as a new game comes along with a promising alpha/beta state just to get bought by a publisher that says "trash it, make it like [Insert Popular Game]". I'm "letting" previous mistakes hurt my faith? NAH they are REPEATING mistakes that have already happened!

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glossy scaffold
sudden tangle
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Dogshit season

Ty @feral shell , not much left in me. S3 killed the game for me. Shit piss season.

feral shell
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please take low gravity out of competitive cashout. it supresses movement which is the entire purpose of this game. all events need to go but this one especially.

@sudden tangle brilliant feedback

quick coyote
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Why does backstab work to the front?

jagged cedar
burnt horizon
white grove
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Cashout ranked is still missing

uneven dagger
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make light players short in real life, im sorry that was uncalled for

cold bolt
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let us put gateway over pits, I promise I won't use it for any evil deeds

crystal umbra
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Is it possible to recapture that mystical wonder that was during the beta?

The game felt so new back then

dim yacht
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Since the update my game has been constantly stuttering and lagging

quick coyote
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Please for the love of god. Nerf the DPS of lights. I just want to play medium without getting instantly deleted by a light with a locked on mp5.

torpid sky
rapid stream
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Finals randomly closes sometimes now (not even a crash it just closes)

arctic lily
# copper lark Just a thought, kinda curious how others feel about it but what if we moved stun...

I say this as someone that hates lights and uses the riot shield full time, but mediums def don't need the stun gun. Lights as a whole should be retooled to have more synergistic abilities, because at the moment the only thing they are 90% of the time are just selfish death matchers. The stun gun is one of the few utilities that can be used for the team while the majority of the others are used exclusively for themselves. That being said I have been running glitch mines full time now to make their get aways much harder. Works fine for indoors, but its still a nightmare when you're out in the open. Medium just overall need to be looked at since a lot of its loadout got gimped in favor of other classes. APS, CL-40, med gun (this is a welcome change though as I hate that this game has the ability to heal).
I've had this idea for a while but I think they should have an event that randomizes loadouts across all classes for a single mode. TF2 did it on some custom servers and you would often get some pretty interesting combinations. Though it would be viewed as super casual on the outside, it would probably give some unexpectedly good feedback on which loadouts could be possibly shifted over to another class. At the very least let them reconsider making smoke nades available to all classes.

austere heart
boreal sentinel
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Nerf sniper hip fire accuracy

somber axle
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Every class have this stun gadgets like winch claw (you cant move when you got pulled) and stun gun, medium should have Stun Mine or Stun grenade that'll be sick and game breaking as hell

boreal rivet
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Instead of the completely useless ADS for the flamethrower can you rework it to drop puddles of kerosene? At around the cost of 5 or 6 ammo you can spray out a puddle of flamethrower fuel that acts as a lightable area denial puddle that lasts for around 15-25 seconds, with lit fuel lasting for 5-8 seconds. I will act more like a manually activated pyro mine that will add to the chaos value of the flamethrower. Lit opponents will also activate the puddles and apply full afterburn.

eternal wigeon
hasty pelican
jagged cradle
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šŸ¤¦šŸ¤¦šŸ¤¦ the toxicity and the stupidity is INSANE.

pure stratus
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Bro, they need to make a glass skin for the AKM where u can see the bullet being fired inside the gun and stuff, that would be so cool

dim yacht
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Playing ta against sniper lights on syshorizon is a nightmare there is to much open space that gives them an insane advantage on top of the dumb damage the sniper does

weary hare
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Remove the "Stop opponents from stealing your cashout or decrypting a terminal 15 times" challenge. I have like 20-30 games so far and my progress is still 0/15

earnest badge
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Feedback form submitted, I hate cash out tournaments now. Just to really put that out there. Maybe I don't you know, maybe it works.
But, and hear me out here. WHY DO WE KEEP CHANGING THE GAME?? Why spend 3 seasons of a game learning it's ins and outs and getting our heads around the strats and economics and timings and so on and so on to then just have it change suddenly?? Only a little, but enough to make it that you basically have to reprogram your neural pathways to adapt to the changes. Like. Whatever happened to just, this is the game. Learn it. Get good at it. Or don't? The best most long lasting fricken still to this day in rotation games just made a system and people learned and played it. Why are we constantly changing and adapting the game? Just learn it and play it. Do you get on a football field and go, hey you know what all these guys that are good at kicking the ball, hmm they are making it too hard for the guys that aren't. We should put weights on their legs. And while you're at it, the fast guys? Nah they're too fast, it's not fair. They should be made to run a block a couple times before the game to reduce their stamina. No. You don't. You just play the game to your skillset, find a role and go with it. Sure, most sports probably developed their rules over a very long time and that's not really the point. But like, CS, 2 teams, plant bomb, defuse bomb. Simple af, over 25 years old and still massive. It doesn't really change even though it's never been perfect. But players learned the game and adapted to it, then got good or didn't and life carries on. I'm sorry for the rant here, but like just leave it. The Finals was a good game. Cash out tournaments were fine. I don't understand what happened to just like, get good. Or don't? Why should the game change to accommodate anything? It was a good game. I don't see the incentive to keep learning a system that may just change tomorrow. I love The Finals, but man just keep it what it was. It was fine. Ty

real scroll
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cant wait for new cod cuz this game is hot garbage. this game had potential but it was fed shit for months

latent niche
graceful slate
# earnest badge Feedback form submitted, I hate cash out tournaments now. Just to really put tha...

Idk man, I enjoyed the changes and they brought me back into the game. World tour isnā€™t a ranked game mode even though itā€™s still very competitive. I think itā€™s kinda fun to see their experiments and how it changes peopleā€™s play-styles and my own. They also keep the game interesting and alive along with adding more content without introducing annoying metas with balancing changes. I think you have a valid argument IF this happened during an esports tournament which it didnā€™t.

jagged cedar
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melee hitreg has been both changed and gotten progressively worse since patch 2.8. These issues were largely absent on launch of 2.8 but have crept up and gotten worse ever since.

You can see in the skyway hospital clip where I repeatedly hit my opponent while getting coins but no damage

@stark notch There are noregs that dont display coins, these started occuring after patch 2.8 and have only gotten worse since. Pre 2.8 those wouldve hit]

amber quest
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I haven't received the blue i-seul shoes from the pro circuit after completing it, that's the only main issue I've experienced with the pro series.

stark notch
grim patrol
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add a respawn if you fall off the map before the round starts

earnest badge
# graceful slate Idk man, I enjoyed the changes and they brought me back into the game. World tou...

Fair call man. I do see that I'm just kinda whinging a little, I think it's just like, idk, me and my team were just starting to get a good flow going with the tournament structure and like a week later it was super different and now feel like I have to re learn it all. I'm all for evolution but when do we stop and say this is good enough now let's learn it and run it into the future.. I feel like to a point there is always going to be something to adjust or complain about with all games, but at some point it has to solidify right?

weary hare
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Remove the "Stop opponents from stealing your cashout or decrypting a terminal 15 times" challenge.

warm robin
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Please add Option for visual scene like "Colorful", "Vivid", "Normal"

sonic spoke
umbral anchor
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PLEASE FIX THE GADGET BUG I CANT THROIW MY GRENADES

tepid osprey
crude fractal
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Stop putting people under lvl 10 in my game šŸ˜

graceful slate
# earnest badge Fair call man. I do see that I'm just kinda whinging a little, I think it's just...

I see what you mean and I agree that there should be one constant for a game mode since no one has time to always re learn all the game mode. The reason I like it so much is because it adheres to the theme of the game and it is also the first season 3 change that I really liked and made an impact in gameplay. The finals is such a unique shooter making it impossible to tell how to make cash out the best it can be. At the end of the day the game is still young and they can always revert changes, Iā€™m just happy that theyā€™re making changes.

supple obsidian
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I know this will be an unpopular opinion at first glance, but I genuinely believe that the LH and Sniper need to be moved to Medium and the revolver can be given to the Light.

The primary reasoning I have for this is simple: the fastest class should not also be the longest range class.

Beyond this basic concept, there are other reasons as to why the Sniper and LH1 should not be on the light class:
1: the light shouldn't be required to counter snipe, you gain so much and lose little with the 1 headshot kill in a light vs light sniper duel. It would actually be a better skill expression and a better match up for the sniper to be a medium vs medium, where it takes more than a single headshot.
2: LH1 is what medium players want the revolver to be; while the revolver is what light players want the LH1 to be.
3: sniper should have to compete with other reliable medium-long range weapons, which is more applicable in the medium's loadout.
4: Mediums are slower and easier to hit, which makes counter-sniping easier, and it makes running down a camping sniper much easier as well.

earnest badge
marble prawn
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for the outfits let us try on things together without buying maybe

woeful lagoon
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femboy cosmetics x5

lapis basin
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Nerf throwing knivesā€¦ PLEASE.

versed hazel
tiny owl
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Like a catalog

wet wasp
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I would like to make a suggestion for a skin for the flame thrower if you guy s would make a water gun skin it would be really cool and awesome an cool

real scroll
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I just had a teammate doing team damage on purpose bc we asked him to put the riot shield away on ranked. I feel like when I report these people embark doesn't even care.

tiny owl
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More customization/Skin suggestions-

(Skins that would change the overall appearance/structure of the weapon)

Model 1887- Blunderbuss
Sword- Medieval Sword
Sledgehammer- Mace
Spear- PoleAxe
Riot Shield- Medieval Shield
Combat Bow- Flaming Arrows (they donā€™t do extra damage)
KS-23- Stakeout Shotgun (Literally just add a foregrip to it)
Dagger- A fork (like the broth bruiser sledgehammer skin)
R.357- A deagle (probably impossible but would be pretty cool)

These are just a few ideas.
With a game that has probably the most options and creativity for customization and skins ever, Iā€™m honestly surprised there isnā€™t a lot more. It really isnā€™t that hard to think of new skins for any weapon in the game. The creativity for the finals is literally endless. I understand making good skins requires more time and depth but Iā€™m sure people are willing to wait for good skins as long as they actually come out.

lament wraith
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Hello, i have a question

Do you know if when you Report Someone, You Get any Feedback if that Person was Really Reported? I have my doubts about whether they really ban people or give them a punishment for flaming,

I Recently had a very Bad Experience in 5vs5, a Group of Guys insulted me throughout All the Game, Unfortunately this is very Common, but in this particular Experience it was very Strong, Even more so when they Spoke the same Language as me, I Really like the Game because it is entertaining, but these experiences... :/

young smelt
brisk garden
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just tied for second in world tour and realized after waiting for a long time that we are not moving on, despite the scoreboard saying we are in second (and also having more kills). So what is the tie breaker?

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broken geyser
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Facts even s2 stats are fine but yeah s3 damage with s2 recoil is also fine. And ur right it is horrendous rn