👂┇game-feedback

[wraith orchid]

does sb know the best way to farm weapon xp

[vestal basin]

• Critical game bugs never fixed
• Cheaters everywhere in ranked
• Game kept bugging and got me banned in tournaments

@latent meteor#2662 I'm too lazy to list all those bugs, you can search "bug" in #👂┇game-feedback

Just got banned in TA twice today

1. Stuck at loading screen while joining game, restart takes forever, after that im banned
2. Rank TA, restarted my router, then game stuck, restart takes forever, match over, got banned

[plain fable]

Cash out made the finals unique. Terminal attack just feels like a poor r6/valorant/cs clone

[fringe basalt]

agree

[vast obsidian]

Please add s3 new pack to purchase with game currency and remove the damn terminal mode

[latent meteor]

what bugs are you talking about (dm me)

[rigid heart]

A weapon for light: ACC honey badger

(Photos are airsoft guns)

[formal elm]

Reposting @obsidian solar

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
• Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
• Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
• Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
• Remove the fov and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.

[wind phoenix]

I feel like the finals should try to optimize the game to be run by lower end PC's more easily. It is a very demanding game, and reasonably so, but perhaps some downgrading would allow more players to be able to play the game at a good performance rate

[light tinsel]

Day 2 of asking embark to re-add player discovered mechanics and to stop patching them out. These mechanics added skill expression and a higher skill ceiling to the game. Additionally they also gave heavy some fun movement mechanics, to draw players to the class. And of coarse, prop surfing is cool.

[icy kestrel]

#bringbackrankedcashout

[unreal fossil]

Honestly the Lewis was too strong in S2. FCAR damage with twice the ammo count. But with the many DPS buffs to Light class, I feel like it wouldn't be exagerated to revert the M60/Lewis/FCAR nerfs. This may lower the overall TTK, but hell I'm not against it.

[frail wave]

Born to play Cashout, Forced to play Terminal Attack.
Imagine if Riot Games removed Summoner's Rift Ranked and replaced it with ARAM Ranked
Please try to keep in mind the changes themselves rather than the values and variables. I.E Rather than focus on the ammo count I gave for example, focus on the reload change itself. These values can be changed for further balance.

👇HOW TO FIX TERMINAL ATTACK👇
RANKED TERMINAL ATTACK IS BUGGED, NOBODY WILL REACH RUBY FOR WEEKS
"The system is fucked, when we have to theorycraft how to gain points"
#💾┇terminal-attack-feedback message

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money, there is possibility that this makes it too good to hunt people down instead of playing the objective, because of this you can either go two ways, when a team gets wiped, they drop COINS like bank it., picking up these tokens gives you money **OR ** you only gain 15 % of their money.

The purpose of this addition is to coinside with the next change, i think holding objective may be TOO OP, there may be certain scenarios where holding a cashout makes it impossible for one team to win. Overall this is only an addition if the next change comes in.

• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+ Emerald 2+, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more
• Only One 22k vault should spawn, at this stage of the game, 1st place should be decided

there are no finals anymore
I know you want asian players to play more, but ask yourself... would you play a game that isn't spoken in a language that you understand?
Do you expect players to learn a language, just to play your game? The trailers already had a voiced Korean Announcer, where is he?

[candid flower]

Please listen to this guy and your core players bring back cashout

[olive shell]

Bring back ranked cashout. Delete dog shit ranked TA

[wooden raptor]

^^

[lusty portal]

Anyone else randomly get a glitch mid game and cant use any specializations ?

[shell flare]

bruh i have no idea why they thought a half baked gamemode that was cooked up mid season should be the main mode. surely this is nexon pressure or something. why would i ever play a bad version of cs or val or even rainbow 6

[foggy shell]

It's not the main mode? Do you even play the game?

Why do you guys think terminal attack is the main mode???
@frail wave

[obsidian solar]

♥️

[worldly scaffold]

Happens to me sometimes, with charge and slam...
EDIT:Something positive, art team, and music is great at Season 3, but as many others have suggested, can we get a jukebox feature, where we can pick songs to play for queue, menu, etc, from previous seasons and events? Would be really cool.

[silent palm]

Born to play Cashout, Forced to play Terminal Attack #bringbackrankedcashout

[sterile cobalt]

Playing against 5 mediums, holy hell

[paper osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKrmDLvijo this is how i feel playing light in TA

[wicked tiger]

Stop putting me in games with 30 seconds left. I've left 10 games in a row because I've joined on Power Shift when they're at $39,000

[cloud garden]

I understand that alot of people hate TA as ranked, but lets just talk about losing ranked points for a 2v5, if teammates disconnect after 7 minutes the match does not cancel and continues. Anyone have anyway to balance this so the enemy team still gets most if not all of their points and we dont lose points?

[pliant moss]

Like if you agree but I think power shift need to be ranked too

[sharp briar]

Day 208 of asking embark to add fish

[fickle phoenix]

Seeing 90% lights every game makes it the least enjoyable the game has ever been, buff the other classes otherwise people are going to leave in droves. Just played 4 matches and in those 4 matches, I saw 1 other medium. Getting one hit by a knife and 9 bows running around has ruined the game

[vestal basin]

Day 209 of asking embark to add officially authorized free cheat, so the game will be balanced

[shell steppe]

Whats up with the LH1, its rather strong this season lol or am I tripping?

[gusty locust]

FEEDBBACK ON THE BOW

I have spent around 15 hours using the bow which in the grand scheme of things is not that much but is still pretty decent

WHATS GOOD ABOUT IT
the weapon damage wise feels great and if you were cracked out of you mind hitting headshots every single time it would be pretty good
its satisfying to use and hitting headshots with it feels rewarding
glint to tell you when the bow is ready is good and a great addition

WHAT I DONT LIKE
to prefice this i peaked top 1000 last season somewhere around rank 600 so im not the best at this game but also would say im bad either
with that out of the way my first issue with the weapon is the speed of the arrow which felt way to slow upclose sometimes and shots that felt like they should be hitting often never did i feel like its too slow that you have to be leading you shots even up close which i feel is annoying since upclose people are straffing and its often hard to predict where someone will be when there straffing this is not a issue in lower ranks since mosts players dont move to much when the shoot which allowed me to get several 16-24 kill games in the terminal attack ranked mode however at the higher ranks where people start to strafe more and more it got increasingly difficult you can call this a skill issue if you want but i believe im not a bad player compared to most of the community and you should not have to be a top 100 player whos aim is equivilant to god to be able to be effective with the weapon

my idea for possible solutions up the initial speed of the bow but increase speed fall off so that it slows down quicker further out or increase projectile size so that short strafes side to side cant dodge the arrow

minor complaints

1. blowing up mines feels awkward if your not close to them you must aim not at the mine but slightly above it to hit the mine which is annoying and against a players intuition
   2.the bow animation for charging it up pauses right before the bow is fully charged that pause makes it feel like its fully charged and it isnt which can lead to early fires (yes i know there is a ding and a glint on the arrow when its max charged) however in the middle of a gun fight im not paying attention to that with explosions going on arround me instead my peripheral vision is foucusing on the bow as a whole im not asking for a decrease in charge up time but a slight change in the animation so that pause right before its fully charged is instead the point at which its fully charged.
2. if your game is lagging at all the bow is fucked not much i can think of to fix this its just annoying

overall i think its a really fun weapon that fails at higher levels unless you have the aim of a professional player but can see good succes at lower levels.

also the lh1 did not need that buff

[rough herald]

heavy op
annoying af

[tribal olive]

ok, was thinking ppl, where freaking out, but no, ranked TA is gonna kill this game, especially if they make new players do 5 matches of it for there first games

[vapid pine]

BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT

[bold atlas]

My god why did you make terminal attack ranked and WHY first to 7 wins? First to 3 would have been more bearable . But even better:

BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT

[next pike]

if you dont like light class
play heavy with the winch claw
make them pay

[vast obsidian]

Please add s3 new pack to purchase with game currency and remove the damn terminal mode

[broken geyser]

EMBARK Allow heavy players to throw their spears. But not unlimited like the throwing knives. Instead when u throw it once u have to wait for it to come back to ur hand kinda like Thors hammer. It's literally a SPEAR. And having to wait for it to come back even to engage in close range battle prevents it from being overpowered but viable longer distances. Maybe allow players to aim and throw it through by toggling on and off the aiming mode. WE NEED THIS IN THE FINALS.

[feral mirage]

Bring the Finals back to the Finals #KillTA

[quick coyote]

bring back cashout ranked

[glad delta]

can you nerf bow damage

[violet elbow]

@pearl kiln your new ranked system has:

• killed the ranked community and their desire to grind
• made premade teams even stronger
• made it even harder to beat cheaters
• removed the game's identity from ranked play
• made a single class viable in high elo with everyone on Light long range poking

nobody who grinded ranked the past YEAR before this actually wanted terminal attack, its such a stupid change and nobody who grinds ranked for a high placement right now actually enjoys it, it just caters to people who wont grind ranked to begin with, which makes no sense.

change the mode and please start listening to your comp community so shit like the LH1 buff dont happen, the weapon needed A NERF, not A BUFF.

[light tinsel]

swap dual blades to light because they can close the distance for the melee, then swap bow to medium because they need a good projectile weapon, plus light already has the sniper which is just better than bow.

[rigid heart]

There should be more customization for crosshairs and also add static crosshairs

[formal moat]

SPITTING FAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[ruby brook]

so like are you guys at embark just completely oblvious to the dumpster fire that is ranked play or are you guys just gonna ignore it. make a statement alr

[worldly scaffold]

It is Sunday, just wait

[cyan pilot]

kyoto moving platforms is impossible to run, the server cant even keep up most the time

[crystal umbra]

ANOTHER FREE IDEA

Create "companies" like "clans" back in the day where we select a sponsor. Kinda like in world tour we compete or "grind out" specific sponsor drip each season. Limited time cosmetics for the "companies" to get each season. OSPUZE, Viiya, etc.

Maybe this would be better for ranked TA since the "company" size is larger.

OR

we could make companies larger than just 3 ppl and everybody plays for the group to achieve a group goal. I.e. "get 100 wins this season".

Thank you for your consideration 🚀

[jagged axle]

i think it would be cool to add rewards for world tour aswell as well as the multibucks you earn

[whole moss]

bring back cashout ranked +1

[limpid granite]

terminal attack defense is near impossible to win anyone else expieriencing the same thing?

[true obsidian]

Pls bring back cash out as ranked this terminal attack is trash af. If I wanted to play search and destroy I would play cod

[hasty oriole]

So we will still get penalties if teammates leave ranked TA and we leave afterward?

[teal minnow]

My review on ranked TA: It is good
I was like the rest of the players that it is very bad and unbalanced buuuut ,it's not. I spent this week on learning HOW to play TA and wow ,the gamemode is actually good and has some very close moments. After you play a few rounds you get the new meta and play style ,I miss cashout tho but I'll be playing this mode untill it's back and maybe after cashout came back I'd still play the mode.
Lessons learned :

• Learn to play the gamemode
• Learn the new meta
• Stop puting stress on Embark ,they know they fucked it up a bit
  (This is MY opinion so please no hate and if you have anything to say about it we can talk like humans and don't have to make a Discord drama )

[cobalt ice]

how I can fix "server time run out" it happened 3 time in single match

[surreal wagon]

Gamemodes where you cannot respawn freely are easily the least fun and most frustrating. It's annoying as fuck making one tiny mistake then you don't get to play for the next like 3 minutes. CASHOUT AND TA

[native oak]

new meta inv lh1 lul

[charred slate]

BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT GUYS

[quick coyote]

This 💯

[ivory pewter]

Bring the ranked cashout please, i'm out till you will, just do 2 separated queues

[delicate star]

remove terminal attack

[dire prairie]

I agree too

[merry charm]

This game has serious problems, gameplay aside. They claimed to fix the Xbox game chat bug a few updates ago, but it hasn’t worked in over a month. And terminal attack games are getting ended for no reason??

[whole acorn]

lol i would go so stupid with this omg it would be cool to have a gun that shoots slow at first like an AR and then sprays like a smg like in cod

[unreal fossil]

2x Heavies playing Sledge/Claw + 1 Light spamming TKs is very fun to fight against... not at all. I constantly got killed in two hits. I was Heavy myself so imagine how much worse it would be for a Medium. M60 just can't compete at all. Flamer is a bit better, unless you get clawed, then you're instantly doomed with zero counter-play. What the hell ? This is a FPS. First Person SHOOTER. Melee weapons were more meant to be a meme/troll thing for skilled players IMHO. But now this is the new meta. Nobody cares if you're actually good at aiming. Just play the most oppressive stuff and you'll win.

[compact mason]

after i really really tried to play ta ranked, I still cant enjoy it and it dosnt feel like the finals anymore. I think I will make a longer break from the finals and hope they will change it back to cashout ranked.

[viral cipher]

sounds like a skill issue if you cant enjoy cashout . I've never heard anyone complain about that.

[shadow glacier]

NERF THE THROWING KNIFES ITS SO UNBALANCED

[tacit apex]

i hate the update
the finals is dead for me

[violet wing]

How can Embark mess Cashout THIS bad ?? They reworked it in the opposite way of what should have made sense. It's a non-stop stomp always getting overwhelmed byt third parties. It doesn't matter how good you are, you are at the mercy of PURE LUCK. What a horrible season.

[glad delta]

Imagine getting to the finals of a tournament just to deal with aimsnapping all game. It would be great if cheat detection was a little more aggressive and so it would put mans out on his ass for even trying

[worldly helm]

if u think ta is better ur just ass at cashout

[minor moth]

BALANCE THE GAME!!!! This is embarrassing for you Embark. Your entire community is pissed off at the state of the game at the start of a brand new season.

PLAY YOUR OWN GAME.
LOOK AT THE DATA. If 100% of players in leaderboards are playing LIGHT you need to do something about it before season 3 kills this game!
The balancing is unforgivable.

[ionic tiger]

Uninstalled afer the new update. Terminal Attack is completely defender based, broken and doesn't feel finished AT ALL. Why try to copy generic games (valorant, cs...) if you already got a really creative refreshing gamemode?? The official game mode is just much better suited for the abilities in the game.

[cloud garden]

🙏🙏🙏

[rigid heart]

It's honestly perfect for light a suppressed AR that's small and a fast fire rate n midrange to close range and could probably battle the XP-54 in the meta

[candid flower]

26-5 and we won ta ranked and only 600 pts like wut im done whole team went negative and i get a little reward what a bunch of bs plz bring back cashout

[deep mantle]

been putting a lot of time into the bow. i think it feels really good, but maybe a slightly faster wind up, and please get ridd of the zoom on left click

[waxen verge]

can you guys uncensor lmao, ty

[acoustic storm]

Please rework the barrier placement. Often times one gets a blue hologram, but is unable to place the barrier. This just sucks and feels awful.

[merry obsidian]

do you have towin to rank yp,

[delicate scarab]

+1

[brittle harness]

I'm done. Uninstalled

[tulip wagon]

Nooo please stay… nobody cares buddy see ya

[sleek flame]

Mickey mouse game with zero gun play now, why does the katanas do more damage reflecting bullets?

[stable night]

Add a replay mode, I want to see if whoever magically doesn't get damaged in the game is cheating or the connection is just ass.

[hoary needle]

I think a LFG style system for ranked within the game would be interesting. Let’s say you are in platinum rank. And the party leader. You can host a team that locks joining for players which only the perimeters you can set. For example lock the lobby for Plat3+ no mediums. Then people can scroll through the lobbies see the ranks and classes of each person on the teams and either request to join or just join if the lobby is open for certain ranks or class. Idk wild idea might not work came to my head thought I would share goodnight

[drifting storm]

I think they'll care when they loose their already smallish player base. How does the boot taste

[icy kestrel]

#bringbackcashoutranked

[magic hill]

#bringbackcashoutranked

[honest merlin]

I'll leave my 2 cents on the matther: TA is not The Finals, it's stale and boring. What makes the finals unique is Cashout. BUT FOR THE GOD Dont remove World Tour. Its perfection for the middle point of Casual and Competitive.

[analog jacinth]

#terminalattackisabettercompetitivegamemode

[digital sinew]

there once a game called DIRTY BOMB
i watch the game that i loved the most die slowly, and to this day it hurts, devs was nice, funny and lovely people
BUT, they didn't listen to the majority of the player base, update after an update that broke the game and shattered it (FUCK U PHANTOM)
we as players felt so disconnected even we were so close with the devs, nexon fucked splash damage up with poor decisions
but u guys are one your own........ like wtf is influencing u but us ?

[river plover]

Fire should not set off mines its stupid

[pseudo latch]

Day 91 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

PC pic today. have cat.

[violet wing]

How can Embark mess Cashout THIS bad ?? They reworked it in the opposite way of what should have made sense. It's now a non-stop stomp always getting overwhelmed by third parties. It doesn't matter how good you are, you are at the mercy of PURE LUCK. TA is incomplete and not a valid alternative, lights everywhere all the time because of tk and now LH1, bugs galore, new map as beautiful as it is a PAIN to play on. What a horrible season.

[worldly scaffold]

Oh my god I forgot that game, it was so good, and exactly this happened...

[nova veldt]

Minuses of Cashout ranked were its High RNG for winning. Minuses of TA ranked is its Boring and not interesting at all playstyle

[violet elbow]

please buff the LH1 even further we didnt want to use other weapons anyway!

[nimble mango]

lewis was too strong yeah, but frankly didn't need much to get it back in line with everything else

[tulip belfry]

TA SUCKS

[knotty oasis]

Goddamn ta is incredsible fun

[versed cloud]

I hate the new recoil systems for the M60 and Lewis gun. Why punish players who bothered to learn a pattern in the first place? M60 has no damage but is borderline exploitable with its non recoil and Lewis gun has slightly more DMG but the recoil is beyond control.

[tardy cloud]

can we nerf RPG and breech charge as well to make it more fair? Make the RPG do 80 player dmg and do more dmg to structures and make breach do like 50~60 dmg to players. Breech is already just a cashout defender even with the new nerf.

[glacial knot]

Terminal Attack there is mostly 2-3 players , do nothing. Please bring back cash out ranked. If one player is dumb he can as medium heal and revive but 5 players and 3 players dumbbis too much. I dont play TA anymore world tour is enough for me

[teal minnow]

It is not a mine CAN explode if it's in a fire

[golden cloak]

The new season has done a good job at implementing very fun alternative playstyles per class, which is amazing and I'm really greatful for it and there's been a lot of buffs especially for light that have made the class a lot more enjoyable however in the entire events of season two players haven't been complaining about the versatility of light. They have been complaining about the completely dire survivability. Yes its the point of the class, but to what extent is too much? with only 150 HP they are just useless in this balance meta. For example grenades: 149 DMG, RPG: 140, Charge and slam: 130(ish), Model: 100. its impossible to get value when after any tick of damage from any weapon cross all classes, light can literally be wiped from existence in some cases with the press of one button without any other thought process. Its awful balancing and the light class doesn't have enough counter-play for this for it to be balanced. Please do something, its been months and months and there's been very minor tweaks that do not change this issue at all. Its not fun, its not something that should be a feature of a competitive game, and its unfathomable how it even got through play testing to begin with. For the love of god, add class based damage to at least the listed offenders, or just nerf them

[crystal umbra]

Leaving teammates in world tour made me want to get off the game today.

Not having team mates back fill in a "casual" game mode put me off.

I'm not playing TA either.

[vital laurel]

Ranked TA is not fun. Bring back ranked cashout

[faint tinsel]

#bringbackcashout

[quick coyote]

THE HIT DETECTION IS STILL A FUCKIN JOKE MAN

[stoic marten]

Replacing Cashout with a diet version of tournament with rank rules for a "casual" experience was such a silly change! WHO DOES THIS?

[slender pendant]

Why we were need to wait till S3 so game get some advertizement? Why not in S1 or S2 when game was in better state?

[hoary orbit]

if they are going to have ta, they need to make a way to forfit or remake a match if temates leave after the first round. It also needs a better ranked protection system for if people leave, you shouldn't be loosing 800 just because one of your stupid teamates left and put you at a massive disadvantage.

[sweet isle]

Make some friends then.

[brittle harness]

They know how to kills it's own game that sure

[placid hazel]

LH1 is ruining ta

[grim scaffold]

BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT

[zinc gazelle]

Please get rid of the hold to decrypt, It takes too long and the defenders have a headstart

[icy kestrel]

#bringbackcashoutranked

[vagrant current]

for TA either put class limitation (max 2 lights, mediums, heavies), raise the max regen for mediums and heavies, or allow the healing beam. 5 lights with lh1 is peak antifun.

[broken plume]

I tried ranked TA.
It was good and fun until the LH1 became a thing.
I refuse to play ranked when I get three tapped before I can comprehend where the enemy is let alone turn around in time. The only time I could fight the LH1 is when I saw them first

[keen tartan]

right but then again it is a new season i'm sure they will nerf some things soon

[proper barn]

Please remove the option of changing your kit with your reserve during the game of TA, it just makes it a game of Rock Paper Scissors and unpredictability. Also makes NO sense you can change gadgets and not change specializations. You cannot learn your opponents gameplay style as one round they might have Thermal vision with an LH1, then next they have a sniper. This does not add "variety" to the game, it makes it feel like there is no progression mid game.

[chrome citrus]

Already hard enough to find a 5 stack what are u smoking

[magic hill]

#bringbackcashoutranked

[tribal olive]

this

[strong jacinth]

#bringbackcashoutranked

[stark notch]

We gotta boycott the rank TA harder. Gotta make the game have negative reviews people

[clear sail]

mb somebody know why the game is so laggy after 3 season came out? and how to fix it

[tulip belfry]

TA SUCKS bring back cash out ranked

[slim rampart]

TA is boring. In the world tour we are forced to play only one map. It will be a good season.

[ruby trench]

Can you fix the bug where terminal attack is the ranked gamemode

[violet elbow]

Can you fix the bug where terminal attack is the ranked gamemode

[mortal ridge]

Can you fix the bug where terminal attack is the ranked gamemode

[lavish vessel]

It would be nice to be able to see a summary of the score (eliminations, assists, deaths, revives etc...) from all rounds in the end when ur knocked out or won the world tour tournament.

[short lodge]

guys there are better ways to convince the devs to remove TA than make them want to quit

[atomic sparrow]

Can you fix the bug where terminal attack is the ranked gamemode

[violet wing]

I just had THE PLEASURE to end up in a final round with the vault dropping under the map, and of course the other team popped right next to it while we were 200m away, so they won with 500 objective points and we had to wait 18 minutes doing nothing. GREAT. BEST SEASON EVERYBODY.

[frozen vapor]

make the cashout stealing noise louder. i cant tell when it being stolen from me when im fighting right next to it

[fossil hawk]

Get a hearing aid idk

[mighty mantle]

wow what a helpful response

[hushed lotus]

Why’d they buff LH1 so much? It was perfectly fine before but now it literally melts down everything from very far, it’s too rewarding for the skill it requires, I’ve seen console players destroy with it thanks to the aim assist

[glad delta]

it's literally 3 damage and second they nerfed fire speed

[digital sinew]

lets have a melee only event please xD

[dreamy charm]

It’s already a blaring alarm that guy isn’t wrong

[waxen verge]

Try cleaning your ears might help

[untold meadow]

I AM NOT PLAYING RANK UNTIL THEY FIX THE POINT SYSTEM!

[bright jolt]

i agree

[rain epoch]

PEAK season, Embark hit the nail on the head. Ranked Terminal attack is the preferred ranked game experience.

Just me, 4 other lights, an LH1, and some sonar grenades. Need to update the report system though. Should be an option to report teammates that grief by not playing light with LH1. I'm sure you're working on an update to make light the only playable class, since that's even more competitive. PEAK!

Also can we make the invis noise alittle less audible? I'm tired of hearing me and my 4 other teammates invis all at the same time.

There's also a weird bug where sometimes one of the teams plant this key thing, and you have to disarm, it rarely happens but can you patch it out, it sometimes takes away from the 1 life TDM and makes the match longer.

[haughty mica]

Let us choose between all seasons soundtracks in game, i miss so much S1 soundtrack. I know you can do it. ❤️

[vagrant current]

did 3 TA today, found a total of 13 lights in the enemy teams. calm down.

[pulsar jay]

nah not quite deserving a review bomb, the review score likely wouldnt recover after they fix it if helldivers is anything to go off

[placid hazel]

I tried ranked TA.
It was good and fun until the LH1 became a thing.
I refuse to play ranked when I get three tapped before I can comprehend where the enemy is let alone turn around in time. The only time I could fight the LH1 is when I saw them first

[sleek tulip]

addint he winch hook was not a good move for the longevity of the game imo, theres no counterplay to it. you are instantly pulled out of position and lazered

[whole palm]

why exactly everything got new lvl skin (leopard black) except healing beam?

[pure arrow]

Review bombing will just kill the game. That’s a terrible idea.

[ionic rampart]

idk what you guys did but the game runs and looks way better under linux now after season 3.
hopefully this performance sticks around

[dreamy gull]

Lh1 meta is corny asf rn. Nerf it

[sleek marsh]

I played a lot this season and I have to mention that the toxicity especially in world tour is crazy. I would rly like to see a reputation system like in R6, so many players just perma insult chat, go afk or quit, I would say at least every 2nd game is a rly rly bad experience cuz of those ppl, and it's getting worse from season to season

[lean oasis]

ranked cashout please

[maiden hemlock]

Does this game have anticheat?

[clever hawk]

Light’s pitiful HP and the excessive global damage levels mean it is a feast or famine class.

It still struggles in coordinated Cashout but is increasingly dominant in casual play (and the poorly thought out Terminal Attack with limited health regen).

Essentially it is either insta-gib or be insta-gibbed when playing as Light. This is terribly unfun for both parties.

Losing 93% of your HP to a low-skill RPG or being deleted by random clusterfucks of damage innate to this game feels horrible.

Likewise, meta Light weapons can all explode even a Heavy in an instant.

This will always be the case as long as Light’s health/global damage values remain the same. The class has always been very strong independently but hamstrung by its survivability. Thus extreme burst damage is necessary for its viability. But this is unfun.

Toning down global damage levels would allow Lights to actually survive a moderate level of damage and also relax their dependency on burst damage.

[autumn warren]

I have to quit.... ranked is broken. I won all but 2 of my placements and got put in bronze, and now I can't find a game without at least 2 lh1's in it. I don't want to join the trend that feels gross. so I'm out. This has been the only game I've been playing consistently since s1 but I can't do this. Someone dm me when embark gets it together and starts doing "test servers" for new updates so they can be tweaked before they're implemented

[quick coyote]

Can you guys please fix random disconnections? I've been robbed of 2 easy World Tour finals wins because my teammates disconnected.

[light kite]

Ranked is horrible at the current moment LH1 needs a nerf immediately then it will be playable

[tulip belfry]

TA is terrible, I will be back when cash out is back

[severe girder]

Ummmm...give us text chat where the console players can see it?

[whole acorn]

Teams are so unbalanced now imo - The world tour isn't that fun, I feel like its not as competitive n' my teammates are wandering all over the place. No one sticks together anymore - it feels like i'm wasting my time trying to find a good match to play in. I'm using up my coins up more often because teams are becoming more separated n' also people leave more often. Also, what do i earn for playing World Tour? Can anyone inform me?

One more thing, it's hard to keep track of enemies when you're using the dual katanas

[wanton pendant]

The New Heavy Ability is too owerpowered it needs to be nerved.
Im being grappled as a heavy and still die in seconds because im stuck with the enemy for seconds.

[astral dust]

If i wake up tomorrow and LH1 is still in the game i uninstall

[pliant spruce]

For the ranked, I think we have to resume the cashout mode and make sure to do as before (a 3v3v3v3 and that at each end of the game, a team is eliminated.

Then just make a system with the possibility of losing ranks etc. and hop the trick is played.

The heavy is unplayable in this ranked mode! Too heavy, slow and big. The weapons too much recoil. It’s awful. In short, must change the ranked mode

PS : Stop with heavy nerved... please stop ! Heavy is "bad" now

[pseudo breach]

Day 74 of asking for South African servers

[swift gust]

Hope this message finds the dev team.

Its a good thing that they are sponsoring streamers to promote the game. But most of the sponsored streamer's live chat and players and my friends circle from my region said the same thing regarding The Finals. "I do want to play Finals but the game doesn't run well on my pc"

According to steam GPU survey, at least 76.7% comprise of the budget GPUs which doesn't include the 3060 Desktop version.
All these 76.7% of users wont be rocking a powerful CPU. So no matter how good the game is, The Finals can't benefit much from just 23.3% of users who have good PCs that can run Finals at 120 locked fps. I can confidently say that this is one of the primary reasons why the player base is not growing up.

The new map Kyoto feels much better than Sys Horizon but due to insane amount if vegetation and other things in the map, it increases the CPU load thereby reducing the fps to even lower level (horrendous)

If the focus can be directed towards the 76.7% of users, it will greatly boost the player base. And anyone reading this, if you feel this as a valid point then please do add a reaction so that this message reaches the dev team. I sincerely want this game to be successful.

[indigo socket]

map roulette & gun game thx

[silk moon]

i love being suspended for half an hour because the servers randomly don't connect once

[rain gust]

You've done a FANTASTIC job with the bow. I might not be good at it, but it's become a staple of Season 3. It's fun to use, and it's effective. It's fun to watch other streamers use it. I enjoy playing with it and against it. It's popular for a reason, but not necessarily underpowered or overpowered. No need to change anything, not buff nor nerf it.

Keep this up. Let the bow stay where it's at.

[vast quail]

playing the finals makes my make sound static (??????????????????????????????????????????????????????)

[quick coyote]

TA is full on trash dude, its such a horribly thought out mode. There isn't a single designer at Embark. Its all just the programmers. No game masters. Or at least one with any experience ... with video games

[elder umbra]

dear embark , i think rank system still fucked up , need to rework the point earning for each game , now won the whole game we earn 700 point then the next game lose we lose 700 or more , i think ranks system in S2 way more better than this in my opinion even S2 point system bit confusing .

[mighty mantle]

sounds like you aren't very good at being patient

[crude skiff]

My experience with TA has been pretty bad, don't know why they made the decision to make it the ranked mode.

[violet wing]

"hey ranked cashout could be better so while we work on it, here's something 10 times worse, and not built on the core game mechanics, enjoy 90 days of misery"

[hidden spire]

FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME CANT FIRE MY WEAPON IN TOURNAMENT

[ivory stream]

100 days until ranked is playable guys dont worry

[cerulean mason]

Day 26 of asking Embark for Prop Hunt

[solar sparrow]

That’s probably a you problem. I usually get that when my ping is very high or something

[lime crane]

this is actually a great idea damn

[limber ingot]

no there is this bug since day 1, sometimes u cant shoot or use gadgets, have to restart game, still not fixed 😄

[quaint vale]

Idk why everyone is crying about ranked TA, Its so balanced, the invisibility LH1/XP Light is just a good strategy

[pastel ravine]

majority of ranked games are not balanced. semi auto needs nerfing

[quick coyote]

lh1 op

[glacial knot]

Start hwid ban players, cheaters are raging the lobby to boost other players using new account that they dont care about

[echo void]

Day 3 of asking Embark to add Cat Ears to THE FINALS!

[chrome citrus]

Then ur clearly low elo then. bronze? 🤣🤣🤣 when ur in plat lobbies u will understand.

[floral thorn]

Pleeease add a group chat and sloth or penguin costumes

[vagrant current]

gold 4 after the first matches, diamond last season. imagine insulting instead of having a discussion. cope harder lightcel.

[glass snow]

Lewis recoil
Can you make the recoil a little bit easier to control, not as much fun to use now.

We give you rpg dmg nerf
You give us easier recoil

[crystal umbra]

Starting to feel bad.

[brittle harness]

I don't think so. I think the game "terminates" in season 3 like any Trilogy

[obsidian sentinel]

The collision with the winch needs some work. I've been getting hooked through walls/stairs all day

[cedar monolith]

The new ranked is amazing, great job guys, no more cashout cheesing, ****Cashout makes no sense as a ''comp'' mode since there's so much room for rng lmao people crying about TA are the same people that don't fight until everyone else is wiped and 3v1 the last guy on half health lol

[hollow mango]

im gonna be honest, TA is really really not it, previously I enjoyed TA but after coming back to cashout it felt like a breath of fresh air and reminded me that this was why the finals felt unique and enjoyable. Im so insanely bored of the attacker defender gameplay and making this mode the primary focus of your game just feels wrong

[empty jasper]

TA is the stupidest game mode that you can have at ranked play, it’s going to start killing the game regardless of the world tour

[dreamy gull]

Played 1 game of TA ranked. 3 of them used LH1s from afar on roofs…instant deaths. Ranked is so fkn boring now, I don’t even care to finish the placement matches and just forget about playing it entirely this season… thanks embark for making Ranked a boring snooze fest….

[runic burrow]

is normal ranked back or are we still stuck with the trash ta

[tawny oriole]

Russian cheaters, they start cheating like in counter strike, they killed the whole team from respawn point. If you dont do something against they will kill the finals like they do on counter strike ranked @grizzled forum @whole umbra @hoary badger name of cheater is CHARGINGPRO#1184

[honest pivot]

Add reactions back to this channel

[tacit radish]

here s3 starter pack have fun
https://imgur.com/a/JmbMItm
great season embark 😊

[fathom tiger]

ta ranked not it

[rain plume]

you should be able to report people during a match, had a player who was team killing with gas in TA and wasn't able to report until after the match ended

thanks, just figured it out lol

[sonic raft]

You can report people during matches.

[shell steppe]

Hey Embark,

can we please get an "black flashbang" screen? - Playing in the evening is eyestraining against flashbangs

[weary cove]

needs to be fixed asap keeps happening to me multiple times a day. seems like some groups are trying to go for it on purpose

[placid moth]

LH1 am i right?

[dreamy charm]

Just close your eyes.

[wraith venture]

#MAKERANKEDGREATAGAIN

[night glen]

If you get sent an invite and you are in game PLEASE make it so it also does NOT send the invite via Steam.

[strong jacinth]

#bringbackcashoutranked

[paper gale]

bring back cashout

[crisp heart]

please lower mp5 range. it should not go across the map like it does. especially with options like lh1 and sniper, they do not need another way to delete health at range that is actually also insane in close range....

[frail wave]

Born to play Cashout, Forced to play Terminal Attack.
Imagine if Riot Games removed Summoner's Rift Ranked and replaced it with ARAM Ranked
Please try to keep in mind the changes themselves rather than the values and variables. I.E Rather than focus on the ammo count I gave for example, focus on the reload change itself. These values can be changed for further balance.

👇HOW TO FIX TERMINAL ATTACK👇
RANKED TERMINAL ATTACK IS BUGGED, NOBODY WILL REACH RUBY FOR WEEKS
"The system is fucked, when we have to theorycraft how to gain points"
#💾┇terminal-attack-feedback message

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money, there is possibility that this makes it too good to hunt people down instead of playing the objective, because of this you can either go two ways, when a team gets wiped, they drop COINS like bank it., picking up these tokens gives you money **OR ** you only gain 15 % of their money.

The purpose of this addition is to coinside with the next change, i think holding objective may be TOO OP, there may be certain scenarios where holding a cashout makes it impossible for one team to win. Overall this is only an addition if the next change comes in.

• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+ Emerald 2+, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more
• Only One 22k vault should spawn, at this stage of the game, 1st place should be decided

there are no finals anymore
I know you want asian players to play more, but ask yourself... would you play a game that isn't spoken in a language that you understand?
Do you expect players to learn a language, just to play your game? The trailers already had a voiced Korean Announcer, where is he?

[lime crane]

Just make it 3v3v3

[tough merlin]

New map runs terriblly.

[chrome citrus]

Bros gold 4 and thinks hes the goat damn.

[frozen elk]

i dont know who needs to hear this, but you need to balance light. as someone who has mained every class since the closed betas, light is by far the worst. i get that the class as a whole is suposed to be like a glass cannon, but in light's current state, embark is missing the cannon part. when I hop into any game mode as heavy, i'm dropping at least 15 kills, and that's not just in casual modes. I solo-q'd to plat in the last four days of the ranked season only using heavy. embark needs to buff light so badly, cause it's just not competively vialble anymore. right now, the light class is just glass. there is nothing valuble of light, as they have no good abilities that help the team. please just buff light, as its gotten to a point where I automaticly think that any light on my team is throwing in ranked.

[rustic pebble]

Lights in TA are insta-wins

They're too fucking good in that mode, been running into 3-4 lights on each team per match for 20 matches now.

I haven't even seen 1 heavy in 20 matches of TA.

[stray warren]

why can't i send photos or vids?

[minor plover]

TA sucks. Ranked TA sucks even harder. It's a snooze fest and anything platinum or higher is just 5 lights vs 5 lights.

World tour matchmaking sucks, so World tour sucks.

Bring back ranked Cashout tournaments, the game was so much better.

[pseudo surge]

TA sucks still and ranked is not fun Last seasons ranked mode was much better

[vagrant current]

listen you king of clowns, i'll stop replying to you because this is getting off topic. The game needs to be fun for the majority of players, not 25 of you top sweaty tryhards. This is how the game survives. No new player is going to stick around after being FORCED to play 5 games of TA against 5 lights (yes, you have to play 5 games of TA before accessing any other game mode), just like no one is going to stick around playing TF2 after 5 games of fighting against bots. Literally everyone in this channel agrees. we want THE FINALS, not Rainbow six duty. The game is more balanced than it ever was, Cashout is still amazing, but it's not balanced around TA. Keep yourself hydrated.

[boreal wagon]

revert ranked mode...

[grim patrol]

Make it possible to buy season pass cosmetics, gestures, emotes and limited time event cosmetics with multibucks like a month or season after they premier.

It will remove the FOMO (fear of missing out) from the game, give people time to flex and show off their cosmetics uniquely from those who missed the initial time window to get them for free/very cheap with the battlepass. And bring in more money in a non-greedy way.

[cosmic sedge]

🙏 😭 RANKED TA SUCKS | BRING BACK RANKED 🙏 😭 (we should get a chain going maybe everyone just spam this? 🥺 )

[topaz jasper]

tournaments were less fun

[tacit radish]

🙏 😭 RANKED TA SUCKS | BRING BACK RANKED 🙏 😭 (gochu homie)

[haughty niche]

Sword deserves gadget swapping

[willow zealot]

I don't like the win ranking system for world tour I would much rather have something more similar to how TA is ranked right now

At least have placement games because when I play with my friends it feels like we are in bot lobbies sometimes

[exotic lagoon]

Any MGL32 mains would like to team up and make an all-star mgl32 team

[distant oar]

THIS RIGHT HERE 🗣️
(I'm one of if not the best zipline user)

[buoyant thistle]

disconnected 5 TIMES during a ranked game because of a "Server timed out" problem. I have to reconnect everytime and dont receive any changes to my rank. This has been a problem for me since downloading the game in season 2, and it has been making the game very unenjoyable to play when it does occur.

[humble dragon]

emburk, you add new weapons, but not buff old or rework him. revolver, fcar after nerf stand like trash, jeees, medium class now runnin' healing beam, one light with throwing knives can destroy full medium team, its not ok. New bow had much more damage then revolver .357 and shoot on much more distance lol. 357 caliber penetrate the wall, in that game - can destroy only your nervous system, playing with revolver - its a casino, dunno - are you give headshot or missing on 10 meters on staying still enemy.

[scarlet cypress]

crossing my fingers for a create-a-character overhaul...would love to see a feature editor where you can adjust some sliders and make a weird guy but i'd be happy even if it's just more options for faces and hair and skin tones n stuff :)

[velvet hill]

does anyone know if theres any plan to add team setup in private games

[stark venture]

I was wrong about the throwing knives, that shit shouldn’t be one shotting mediums, pls nerf

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
• Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
• Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
• Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
• Remove the fov and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

• Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam

[winged cargo]

just quit pls and never cook again, this guy has some of the worst ideas ever conceived. This is about as smart as me being a sword main and claiming the sword should have 2x range and hit way faster, no nerfs lol

[quick coyote]

Individual Performance shouldn't be in ranked. I wish Embark Studios learned this lesson from other titles who later removed it as well. Why should teammates be punished for having different win conditions outside fragging/interacting with a Terminal. At a minimum, have it for Bronze/Silver/Gold, but after Platinum+ it should be about team effort and coordination at that point.

[violet wing]

yeah, that's probably why every one and their mother is running lh1, bow, or throwing knives. Oh, and the Mp5 look alike is the best weapon in the game if you trust one of the top players and youtuber like Ottr. Are you sure you're playing the same game ? It's called the Finals. double check.

[cerulean dust]

the spawns actually suck in this game

[boreal wagon]

Embark, you fucked up with TA as ranked just revert it.. literally no one is thrilled about it..

[unreal fossil]

The highest scoring player (combat/kills) in most games is generally a Light, running either LH1/TK. But this must be a coincidence right ? They must all be very skilled. It can't be because these weapons have absurd TTK compared to the others right ?

Tbh even the XP54 pales in comparison.

[thorny pilot]

LH1 is busted for TA but light is unusable in cashout at higher levels of play. The problem is the health disparity between lights and heavies, the fact that heavies have insane burst damage options (RPG and charge slam should have been nerfed into the ground two seasons ago), high sustained damage (lmgs lol), and multiple means of externally altering their health (shields/barriers, etc).

[whole acorn]

can we cancel out the left trigger attack for the heavy dagger??

[frozen elk]

TA is an entirley different story, soley because of the no health regen. embark needs to buff light because of it's place in the actual core gamemode, cashout, not nerf it because of the nature of TA.

[glad star]

The world tour quest should track round wins instead of tournament wins.

[brittle obsidian]

....by 6%, while also changing a ton of damage breakpoints

[long dragon]

I don't enjoy TA ranked. I would enjoy tournament, but unlike the old ranked, it doesn't really pair me up with people on my level well. I'm usually stuck with at east 1 player that has no idea what they're doing. ranked obviously didnt have that problem. please bring back the old ranked.

[zealous schooner]

You have to give it time for people to get to their ranks, chill, its been 3 days bro

[tender rampart]

The server matchmaking should try to favor distance. For instance if I queue asia as an OCE player, it should try to put me in Singapore lobbies and not fuckin Taipei. It's a major difference ping-wise yet for some reason it's randomly picked.

[final willow]

bro I had 17 kills and I flipping spawned in the void in TA

stupid ahh buggy mode

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
• Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
• Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
• Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
• Remove the fov and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

• Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam

[dense ember]

ranked TA...

[strange cargo]

Please turn down the chance of getting Kyoto in all playlist. You litearlly have the world tournament with it which has the map in a 2 map rotation. I'm playing powershift and getting Kyoto constantly. I'm refusing to play it after 2 times in a row. I will just leave. My record from yesterday is 12 Kyoto matches in a row and that wasn't counting the rejoins with the same group. If it was truly random pick from the 5 maps I'd be happy to play it but I'm not playing the same map 5+ times in a row. It's honestly not even a good map. Way too big. It does have a couple cool building designs though.

[upper saddle]

Two notes on Ranked TA, as much as I hate TA I do have some feedback on it and there's two major issues.
Teams pick their build based on whether they start attacking or defending in higher skilled teams because they can readily win 6 in a row and the enemy team now has to struggle to come back, Attacking & Defending teams need to change every 3 rounds- not every 6.

Secondly, Light's dominance is partly due to the LH1 being buffed when it honestly needed a nerf. Balance team stepped on a gas mine with that one.

The other problem with Light's dominance in TA is the fact everyone regens to a flat 100 health giving lights a slew of advantages and no disadvantages after first contact having the same health, more movement speed, better dueling specializations and a smaller hit box as well as vastly better firearms- To resolve this Light, Medium and Heavy should regen to half health instead of a flat 100 this would mean lights heal up to 75, mediums 125 and heavies 175.

Despite this feedback on Ranked TA, I'd still prefer playing ranked tourneys but it is what it is.

[glacial knot]

It seems that on my end, the finals use more cpu after season 3 update. Who faced this also ?

[thorny parcel]

Why do yall make things like Stun, Cloak, Rpg and Claw 😭.

Claw is probably the least bad offender out of the bunch.

[crystal umbra]

FREE IDEAS
-Top players get a section to directly link/shout-out their social media

• File share - gameshow-esk rolling clips integrated
  -Use us as free marketing

Yet again, I am advocating for some sort of "contestant" shout-out system.
The World Tour is going in the right direction with people being able to promote their Twitch (or whatever) in their username.

I am asking for Embark to go another step in the right direction and incorporate some way for top players to LINK their Social Media - IN GAME.

Not all of us will be able to reach the top so maybe create some sort of file share system (reminiscent of Halo games) where in the lobby you can check out their clips and get links to their socials.

This gameshow is about glory? Showing off your prowess to other players? Well that's what you give us.

Some people may not wanna be famous so they opt out of that feature, but since almost everybody wants to be a streamer or content creator, GIVE IT TO THEM.

I heard Oscar talking about Envy being the color of green. Well I think a game with features to help it's community possibly go viral would be a great way to make other gamers envious and make them want to give this game a try.

Those 3-5 clips you selected between season 2 & 3 was another step in the right direction but I'd be happy to share those on my SM. Especially if they were MORE FREQUENT.

I suggest these community submitted clips are highlighted more often and give us something to share.
(Good job with the skill issue event the other day)

Imagine any one of us has a sick clip that gets selected and you make sure to ask for our socials or/& Embark ID as you shout us out.

Lean heavily into the gameshow feel and vibe that you guys are curating.

Congratulations on achieving a 50% boost in player count. Its not a small feat.
Keep cooking Not too long till we get everyone's attention.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

[storm siren]

would rather see power shift ranked

[iron berry]

[quick coyote]

They shoulda kept it best of 7 and done it tourney style.

[frozen glen]

THE DUAL KATANAS NEED A BUFF

The melee combo:

The 4 hit slash combo is pretty nice, but the dual slash at the end is just too slow. Most of the time I eat a facefull of bullets when I try to go for the third swing.

This wouldn't be a problem if the third swing could be canceled to deflect, and it would make sense because that attack forms the same "X" that the deflect stance does.

Speaking of deflect, I really wish it was more useful than it is

Don't get me wrong, it's great for ceating bullets,but When I watched the trailer, I thought the deflecting was going to be useful for getting close to people by running and deflecting.

After playing with it I was disappointed that I couldn't sprint while deflecting. But I kept on trying to make use of it as much I could so far.

overall it just doesn't work out very well when I do, they just slowly beam half of my HP away while only 3 or 4 of their shots hit them back. And since I can't sprint I can't even make the damage I'm taking, OR doing back to them feel worth the effort.

So, either allow sprint-deflecting.
Or add some other movement option to the blades.

An idea I had was to give a speed boost if you deflect while sliding.

Just give it something so it qdoesn't feel impossible to catch anyone other than a heavy(that can rpg my face off anyways).

It's fun feeling like a Darksouls boss(the 1 in 10 times it works) but these swords won't be genuinely useful unless you give more options movement wise.

[hazy shore]

how the LH1 needed a buff is beyond me

[slender oasis]

Fix the not loading in glitch, I keep losing games bc I have to restart at the beginning of the round

[humble wave]

we need another bucket hat embark , we only got 1

[keen breach]

remove ranked TA

[vapid lion]

Getting a lot more hard crashes than last season.

[prisma remnant]

"Win 3 matches in World Tour" should be a single round. Tournaments are made up of matches and world tour is a tournament. It's funny how I get progress towards "Play 3 matches in any game mode" but if I win a match/round in World Tour it doesn't count towards the first contract..

[halcyon sentinel]

revert LH1 back to previous season

[clever hawk]

Your points on the advantages provided to Light in TA are spot on.

I would also like to add that Light also has:

1. By far the best ranged gadgets via Sniper/LH1/Bow. The limited health regen (and also the single-life format) grant absolutely massive value to chip damage from afar, which these weapons are the masters of. The gigantic maps also play into this.

2. The greatest ability to ambush. Again, the rules of the mode provide insane value to this tactic. Light has extreme repositioning capability as well as literal invisibility. Chunking a heavy briefly before retreating has limited value in regular game modes but is invaluable in TA. It’s stupidly easy and massively effective to employ these tactics in TA.

[haughty bay]

Ruined the whole game

[compact plank]

also the fact that regenerating to a max of 100hp is not nearly as big a burden for lights as it is for the other classes, since thats still 2/3 of a lights total health

[plush coyote]

I would love this change, even though everything is relativity easy to grind in this game, sometimes it feels like a chore and I really don't like having to play the game in certain time windows just because there's a missable item, it's just so infuriating.

[glad delta]

can everyone stop pretending that every game of World Tour doesn't look like MMH MHH or MMM in the 2nd round I get it you're not used to any light standing up to your big bad healthbar but some of you need to wake up and smell the flowers. Light doesn't have the adoption rate you're claiming, except in TA. This man knows what's up.

[fathom glacier]

please fix the LH1 why did it get a buff there is NOTHING you can do to counter a LLL team all using it dashing and flying all over the map.

[crystal jacinth]

rpg charge slam with sa12

[shy ocean]

im beyond disappointed

[cursive latch]

Man the LH1 needs to be nerfed as fast as possible like the game is almost unplayable against it

[somber axle]

Now RPGs are very needed to oppose lights who uses lh1, i'd say buff rpg and charge & slam if lh1 isnt nerfed lmao

[tawny oriole]

Outdated gpu driver can cause that and you can limit the frame rate like your monitor hz in the ini file , this both ways reduce much cpu usage during the game

[hybrid narwhal]

practice range should have customisation targets
more human like behaviour, including random movement/crouching/jumping/variable speed etc.

[cosmic ether]

Bruh no one is pretending you literally just need eyes to see the L stacks. Chill, it's a videogame and where tf are these flowers? Have fun with your buffs. Light in it's current state is not that difficult to play and my light skills are mediocre at best.

[next raft]

How do you counter the swords?? everyone has them!!

[unreal fossil]

There were many Lights in all of my WT games. Even triple L teams. But each team had at least one. This was nowhere near as common in Ranked during S1/S2. You might say that's a good thing because it shows L is finally relevant... Well, I would agree, except that it is purely due to LH1 being so overwhelming. It's just good at everything with close to zero downsides. Not to mention TK, but at least they have their limitations and can't beam you from the other side of the map. Making a class viable by giving it OP/unbalanced weapons is not the way to make the game enjoyable for all players/all classes. Not at all.

I don't want the LH1 to be nerfed into the ground. It was one of my favorite guns to use before. Just revert it to its previous state. OR alternatively, up the DPS on M/H weapons so that the overall TTK across all classes is shorter. But I don't feel that's the right way to do it. The Finals has always been teamplay oriented. Making everyone able to easily clutch 1v3 with powerful guns = getting further away from the spirit of the game.

IMO the LH1 should clearly have its high recoil, old damage per hit, AND hipfire nerf. It should suck ass if you don't ADS.

Similarly, the FCAR should go back to 20 rounds/high damage per round, with the same hipfire nerf. Shooting without ADS should be all over the place. The need to ADS makes weapons harder to use up close, which is what high power rifles w/ high recoil should be about.

[vestal basin]

Balancing is getting worse and worse,
in TA, just stack 5 lights and use L1H1 + sniper + spam sonars, there's no way they can lose

[scenic spade]

day 5 of asking embark to return the old ranked system and mode

[cold bolt]

revert TA, neurons don't fire in this mode

[blazing echo]

Any plans on adding Seoul to Terminal attack?

[teal basin]

Bring back old ranked 🙏🙏🙏

[velvet inlet]

Is the game having trouble with the connection times? been getting the Server Unresponsive error 3 times in a row after 1 min of playing a match

[dim pulsar]

Add a hard point or domination mode

[patent sphinx]

L was oppressed two damn seasons and noone give a single fuck. Now L have a decent state lees than week and all start crying. But yes, to be fair LH1 needs to comeback to S2 recoil, (to increase skill gap), but save current damage (to avoid frustrating deaths when enemy survives on 5 HP), it will be most optimal solution.

[cerulean dust]

please fix spawns https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/643703736211865640/1252062095911026819/image.png?ex=6670d931&is=666f87b1&hm=cfe1450ccf24163c832e581a1a621b3b90b0333ce456c3cc7c0059b201d2586a&

[true zinc]

I was loading into a game but got stuck on the loading screen but I could hear game audio. i disconnected to restart my game. I come back to a 1 hour suspension and probably a whole lot of lost points because this game has so many dumb bugs that havnt been patched since season 1. Great game guys

[austere cloud]

💀

[whole acorn]

for looking at camo skins in the shop, can you add a feature that when you inspect - you can then left trigger to aim n right trigger to shoot and see how the weapon truly looks

[woeful palm]

lights were just fine in high diamond s2

[frozen elk]

This is a great take, but I think that the main issue is that light does not bring any value to the team and is just kind of there for the kills

[delicate fern]

Good game I like little

[long dragon]

still. TA shouldn't be the main game mode, especially in ranked. it doesnt reflect what the finals is.

[heavy plover]

I love winch. Definitely needs some sort of nerf though, maybe cooldown

[bitter girder]

taking away a unique game mode for ranked and forcing everyone to play a rehashed search and destory like every other game is mega stupid

[lusty python]

bow and arrow OP

[quick coyote]

This ^

[inner ravine]

Fax

[stark notch]

they remove the casual version of cashout and world tour only has 2 maps at a time lmfao how boring is that....

[next raft]

Knives are so OP! everyone is using them now and all getting 15+ kills

[unreal fossil]

@patent sphinx Booh-ooh Light was oppressed two damn seasons. No it wasn't. It was good in the hands of skilled players. Many just did not know how to play it right, rushing head on without support... I've seen it hundreds of times.

But even for good players, it was always a very demanding class. Maybe too demanding. So it indeed needed some buffs here and there. The health regen speed for instance, was requested for a while, and a good idea. Not this utter non-sense. We're not gonna find a good middle ground if we unbalance the game the other way around by nerfing H/M weapons and buffing L weapons.

And to prove my point, two screenshots from my latest WT game. "P" in my language is Light. So 8 players out of 12 using that class. The game felt like a round of Bank It with Lights running/dashing around everywhere. Absolutely no H/M teamplay like we used to see before. In fact anyone playing H/M this round either ended up with negative/just about positive K/D. And guess what ? The best player of that round, in the orange team, got 14-4 using... the LH1. And constantly spamming it. I'm not saying it required no aiming skill, because his team mate also used the LH1 and got a worse K/D. But he was absurdly overwhelming.

If you enjoy seeing hysterical gameplay between swarms of Lights, well, I don't. I did complain about the stale meta of S2 with heal/defib/shields. But it was still more enjoyable/strategical than this chaos.

[patent sphinx]

@unreal fossil Ah yes, all of like 5-6 of them from top 500 (sounds balanced, yeah?), all of them, who are semipro/proplayers with godlike aiming/positioning/tactical awareness and game sense, playing from start of the game and grind Ranked for 10-12 hours per day with other D sweats.
So fine that even best L player (Piggy) said that he playing Light only because it's his favorite class, and if it was money on the line on tournament for e.g. he switch to Medium. And that actually happened, all Light mains (sic!) ladder top 30 to top 100 btw, on our community tournament switched to Heavy, except one, lol.
You may say that i'm biased Light main, but facts are here still, and there is other Light players except few Diamonds.
Uh ok, ok bro, we heard you, your opinion so based (no)

[plush plume]

Everything wrong with Terminal Attack as a gamemode inside of The Finals (especially as a ranked mode): 1: Maps are too big, too open and have to many angles. This ends in to different scenarios; either everyone runs around and it becomes a game of who spots who first with the outcome being either you getting killed without knowing from where or you killing someone without them knowing from where. Or option number two, defenders camp inside buildings and do nothing, then clearing all angles as an attacker becomes very frustration due to how the ttk on the weapons heavily favors the defender in a no regeneration mode like this. A bomb defusal mode/tactical shooter has to have relative simple and small maps with clear lines of attack, this allows for actual objective focused play both on defending and attacking sides. 2: I already mentioned it when I talked about the maps but TTK also doesn't work with the game design of bomb defusal. Getting damaged early (which is likely due to the open map design) is extremely punishing because you can't make up for this lost damage because 90% of weapons don't allow for a fast enough kill without you trading hp with the enemy (this is where the camping playstyle comes back into play which just isn't fun). It also sucks a lot of the excitement out of round because clutches are depend less on you own skill and more on how much the enemy fucks up. 3. Gadget and weapon balance do not fit into this gamemode at all, long range poke weapons basically outclass anything else and (even though I think cloak was balanced it cashout) in TA it is completely broken, basically anything that allows you to get get first hits and damage without trading hp back easily is very very strong. And I already know people will try to discredit my take by saying it is a skill issue etc. I just wanna say, I to this point won every game I played in the mode, so this is criticism from a winning position.

[pallid walrus]

Winch is busted I should be able to shoot when they grab me give me a chance to fight back
After game is over and I want to start next match put it back to R1 , you guys switched it to triangle but that's for reporting players

[mossy forge]

Well written!

[thorny parcel]

Delete cloak light and give it a special called Apparition that activates and lasts a short while. Increase run speed, slightly reduces incoming damage, and allows the Light to run through walls to demat them for a short time.

Cloak is just unfun in casuals.

It could probably be reworked to be cool maybe

[lone thicket]

nah what thats a horrible idea

[formal elm]

Please please please fix the riot shield bugs… the shield blocks the whole screen when you pick up carriables

[violet wing]

anyone notice how no one is talking about ruby ? the icing on the cake, pointless hype for a useless feature in a botched season

[ruby brook]

hot take lh1 isint broken its just highly favorable in terminal attack - for below i agree

[compact pine]

Not so hot take: remove terminal attack ranked

[last swift]

Don’t matchmake me into the losing power shift team if the winning side already has 30k+

[tulip violet]

Ranked terminal attack stinks

[terse island]

real

[wooden hornet]

real, meta ruin games

[molten trail]

If u dont like cloak so much then run thermal vision

[austere cloud]

terminal attack bad, cash out good, but i understand nexon needs you guys to make some money -- so start working on the next game

[narrow snow]

what is the weapon wheel

[unreal quail]

🛞

[heavy plover]

Is your modifier correctly binded?

[hearty bough]

Keep doing the good work brother, riot shield will be at least A-B tier one of these days!

[near lava]

Things that actually make sense to change. Give mediums smoke grenades as it would help with swords since you need to sneak to get most kills with sword anyways. Give heavy’s recon so they’re forced to use a spot for util instead of pure defense and rpg builds. Also change the way RS works you lose more than you gain which 1 loss after 8 wins should not be equal to almost 4 wins. Depending on ur game you can gain 400-500 if the team is bad compared to you. But u can lose almost 1500. Idk how we’re in season 3 and every single elo system we had has been just not fair to anyone lol

[violet basin]

let me add people as friends from here, and also add an option to "like" or "honor" other players

[fading hinge]

@grim scaffold oh no by all means is cash out the better game mode and that’s why I have 400 hours on the game but in the current time we’re in we can’t do anything about it and just limiting how many builds can be on one team will make TA much more bearable until further decisions are made.

[gritty umbra]

easy way embark could implement non toxic gameplay, sorta like ehat overwatch 1 did with its endorsement rank/voting.

[lime lichen]

The devs over balance are trash and need to go

[cerulean dust]

PLEASE MAKE IT SO THAT THE PLATFORM IN 5V5 CAN'T BE MOVED BY RIGHT CLICKING WITH SPEAR. IT IS HORRENDOUS

[glacial sierra]

i had forgotten how toxic in-game chat can be. takes me back to good ol' OG CS

[snow anvil]

Cash Out has no rankings, so it's neither fun nor competitive. The TA is too long, and the time spent on guarding is longer than the time spent shooting, so it becomes tiring. Give Cash Out a rank too.

[faint saddle]

please buff the hitbox on the dual blades

#medium-meetup message

and nerf the LH1 how am i humaly supposed to react to this ttk here

#medium-meetup message

[hybrid crystal]

My play again button is the same as my report player button so I have to return to lobby every time. Not a major inconvenience, but it’s just something I noticed.

[hidden spire]

Starting tournament with only 2 people thanks embark fucking idiots

[sudden tangle]

Remove TA

[frail wave]

Born to play Cashout, Forced to play Terminal Attack.
Imagine if Riot Games removed Summoner's Rift Ranked and replaced it with ARAM Ranked
Please try to keep in mind the changes themselves rather than the values and variables. I.E Rather than focus on the ammo count I gave for example, focus on the reload change itself. These values can be changed for further balance.

👇HOW TO FIX TERMINAL ATTACK👇
RANKED TERMINAL ATTACK IS BUGGED, NOBODY WILL REACH RUBY FOR WEEKS
"The system is fucked, when we have to theorycraft how to gain points"
#💾┇terminal-attack-feedback message

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money, there is possibility that this makes it too good to hunt people down instead of playing the objective, because of this you can either go two ways, when a team gets wiped, they drop COINS like bank it., picking up these tokens gives you money **OR ** you only gain 15 % of their money.

The purpose of this addition is to coinside with the next change, i think holding objective may be TOO OP, there may be certain scenarios where holding a cashout makes it impossible for one team to win. Overall this is only an addition if the next change comes in.

• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+ Emerald 2+, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more
• Only One 22k vault should spawn, at this stage of the game, 1st place should be decided

there are no finals anymore
I know you want asian players to play more, but ask yourself... would you play a game that isn't spoken in a language that you understand?
Do you expect players to learn a language, just to play your game? The trailers already had a voiced Korean Announcer, where is he?

make an anime to win people back, the finals is an undercooked game with lots of potential and bad timing. Much like Cyberpunk 2077, what did C77 do ? Made a crazy good anime and THE FINALS has good setup for lore. I don't even like anime, but this would save the game

[gaunt perch]

WHY ARE DUAL BLADES JUST BETTER THAN RIOT SHIELD IN EVERY WAY?

• Blocks everything in your view, including your arms and feet, whereas Riot Shield is very vulnerable where your feet are always exposed and arms are nearly always exposed
• Blocks melee damage
• Attacks faster and deals much greater damage per second
• No movement speed penalty
• Doesn't obstruct your view when blocking
• It's not very obvious that you're blocking, which can fool people into shooting you
• Reflects all ranged damage back at attacker
• NEED I SAY MORE?

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD UP TO PAR WITH DUAL BLADES:

• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can and do easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it. Not to mention bullets seem to go through all the time somehow, the player-model hitbox seems to constantly clipping through the shield.
• While blocking and attacking, movement speed should be the same as walking
• Blocking melee attacks could inflict a knockback/stun, and reduce melee damage significantly. Riot Shield is currently hard countered by all other melee weapons.
• Increase melee range or attack speed slightly OR reduce wind-up duration when swinging the baton.
• Remove the turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it much much harder to look around, especially with such a narrow viewing window.

RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, sometimes the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.

ABOVE ALL ELSE
Riot Shield should at the very least do one thing reliably, and that is BLOCK damage. Nerf the rest of it I don't really care as long as I can use it to survive. BLOCKING is the Riot Shield's core feature and it should be the best weapon in the game to do that.

[tawdry adder]

Two teammates leave world tour and I get a suspension for not wanting to waste time in a 1v3, trash design

[violet wing]

My sweet Embark,

• Bring back season2's CASHOUT the way it was. Keep working on it too if you want to make it better as you said, but most of us are really missing what we loved the game for right now.

• Try finetuning TERMINAL ATTACK, go wild. It needs a LOT of love to be accepted by us players, especially if you want to make it competitive. It needs to feed on the game's strengths, destruction, out-of-the-box thinking, team interactions, diversity in strategies and loadouts. It's not even in an introduction state right now. let alone ranked.

• Care more about BALANCING new and old items and weapons, take your damn time. You create situations like what we see with throwing knives LH1 and Claw all the time because you need more of a subtle touch and more testing.

• Keep bringing us fresh content like your skins, maps and fun events, you always nail them. Even new on-the-side game modes. Again, subtle additions and changes. Not turning the game on its head like what you did with S3.

Many players still believe in you, and in this game. I sure do. You can do it.

[near lava]

100% mediums need smoke and light needs to lose recon nades.

[gritty grotto]

give me Nvidia charm pls

[bleak coral]

make it so you cant be detected in smoke

[broken notch]

we should be able to save outfits and/or have more contestant slots

[vale niche]

Some quality of life features that I would love to see:

1. Separate Character Outfits from Character Loadouts:
   I want to be able to choose my saved loadouts separately from my saved character outfits.

2. Ability to set and save different sensitivities for the various weapons.

Examples: When I'm using the xp as a light my sens feels very high, when I switch to the lewis gun on heavy it's too low to whip around and track a light in a close range battle. The sniper require a completely different sens for my game play as well. If I had the ability to save different sensitivities for each gun I would use more weapons more often. I don't like having to memorize the sens's I use for each weapon and swapping the settings at the start or in the middle of a match if I choose to swap weapons.

Overall amazing game ❤️

[wide oyster]

agreed

[dusk kindle]

i have a idea make it so only 1 melee weapon pure team

[hardy bridge]

melee is trash

[copper sentinel]

Fix rank why I’m I getting 3 lights with snipers with 0 damage at the end of a game

[mossy otter]

So true man, it is funny how some people think that Light is under-powered. With the Cashout gamemode that Finals was introduced - I believe the understanding was that Light is a class who helps in cashing out since it's quickest and can take out enemies in stealth with its amazing weapons, Medium was a class for Support and Heavy was a class for making the entry to say - a guarded cashout or be the offensive/defensive "guy", but with all this balancing that difference is obviously vague. Idk what are they planning but the weekend went by, and me and my pals tried some different games this time.

Edit: and that Cashout mode was actually what made me interested in it at first, it was different, fresh and exciting.

[eternal wigeon]

Skill issue, sledge can go hard if played correctly

[long dragon]

lets make predictions on how long it will take for them to revert ranked to cashout again lol

[unreal fossil]

I agree. Even if it's not in the best state right now, the game has so many qualities that just can't be swept away from the table and still offers many satisfying moments.

What I'm afraid of right now, is that Embark may only make baby steps in each updates to come, like they've done in S2. While it makes sense to not throw off everything at once, in this particular case, they would need to do quite a lot of tuning on many of the S3 changes. They really need to think this TA ranked situation through, and act quickly before it ruins everything.

It really, really feels like it was Nexon's decision to push for this game mode. The reason why I think so is because The Finals was, AFAIK, performing below expectations. Shifting focus towards a more conservative 5v5 game mode, similar to other successful FPS games like CS, R6 or Valorant, doesn't feel like something Embark would do after spending so much time and effort building such a unique game. It definitely feels like a corporate 'cut the losses' kind of decision. The guys at Embark will of course never tell us what's really being said being closed doors. But at this point, we all kinda know how this industry works, and it wouldn't be the first time that executives with poor understanding of the gaming community interfere with a promising project.

Honestly, if that is the case, we really need to keep raising our voices about Cashout being the one and only mode we want The Finals to be focused around. I have no doubts that this game can and will become one of the top-tier FPS games. Embark clearly has both the technical skill and creativity to do it. But it must keep its unique identity. Or else it will just be forgotten like other generic games before.

[quick coyote]

Please fix Cashout stations. I'm tired of getting the steal bar to 100% stolen, dying and then not actually stealing it. What's the point of completing the steal bar if dying completely nullifies it?

[inner narwhal]

stun gun into headshot spam on the melee and he is dead in 3 seconds and melee is unable to fight enemies at a range so the melee guy is pretty much useless in most scenarios it's a very niche playstyle because you only get to fight enemies you get by surprise or in close quarter melee is really bad it's the easiest shit to counter it's only ok on light with evasive dash i'd say but heavy with melee is the worst same for medium the sledgehamer should be a gadget instead of a weapon that you use to destroy buildings and have 10 uses and then it goes on a cooldown or something

[quick coyote]

This game mode is such total garbage in the finals. it makes no sense. the title of the game makes literally no sense now, like the finals of what? this is the most boring, predictable, standard bullshit gamemode. like we been doing this same shit for 20 years.

[autumn warren]

have the embark devs even commented about this? do they know the state of chaos their game is in? it's rapidly losing playercount and I'm worried

[modest quest]

several times in TA ranked match making is not fair, my points are only 20k and meet above 35k when playing with a team of 5 friends and vice versa when playing solo I get enemies that are below my points even they are unranked. the enemy also looks very brutal I don't know if they are using cheats? for proof check my streaming video

[atomic cradle]

so a teammate in ranked ta dcs, we get the 60 second headsup saying match will be cancelled and we can't leave until it ends, comes back after round 1 starts, dcs again permanently like two seconds later, we now get to play a 4v5 from round 1 on, games really gotta work on this, or compensate the losing team.

[hazy junco]

• 400 for very tough win, -1000 for gameruining teammate, that burning me every round. Fair game, fair matchmaking.

[violet wing]

@mossy otter Same here, I've seen so many lights even in diamond absolutely shred, but eveytime they were smart, not taking the fights head-on, always using their strengths. I made a point a few weeks ago to some light players that the class suffers from being too sexy. It attracts the casual and the young, they play it like it's CoD and they get the impression they are too weak. They are definitely not. They're just playing it wrong. And then the devs pander to them and it gets worse for everyone.

@unreal fossil Yeah they probably need to make a big step back on s3, at least in some aspects cough TA cough, but after that I hope they're gonna show more patience and light touch, like when they were showing us the betas advancing. S3 might be a corpo decision, I don't know either. But it's safe to say now they shot themselves in the foot big time seeing the players numbers and reactions.
I would LOVE many more modes in the game, I think it fits the game show spirit perfectly, prop hunt, CTF, whatever, but they need to work WITH the game core principles and strengths. TA does not, like at all. And Cashout should probably stay the main event in any case.

[safe pine]

I've heard people claim this makes the skin P2W given it's more silent nature. Also for the user they don't have an audio cue that defib is ready to use - which can be handy when there is visual chaos. Has there been any adjustment in Season 3 for it?

[primal nebula]

Whoever said that in ranked cashout when you wipe a team you should get some of their money is a genius. Hire that guy

[plush plume]

Funniest thing is, they made this gamemode with ZERO knowledge or understanding on how a 5v5 bomb defusal mode works and what criteria need to be fulfilled for this mode to work. They literally balanced the whole game around cash out, maps, weapons, classes and gadgets. This makes TA feel like a marketing decision where they went like; "well, cs and valorant are doing well so let's do that". Like pls embark, TA is a waste of time when it comes to making it competitive, you would basically have to change your whole game.

[amber garnet]

The rank system kinda slaps, just got +1 rp for losing a game that was unmatched where I played well. They bring something like this to ranked cashout next szn it’s ovr

[quick coyote]

when you tempban someone ban him the next time he launch the game because some people alt f4 come 2/3 hours later and ban is expired

[mossy otter]

The player count chart drop on steamdb speaks volumes about the community sentiments.

[rose snow]

Good News🗞️. Lovin bow and arrow.

[vivid saffron]

Terminal attack is lame. You have so many forms of explosive spam damage, plus lights being able to snipe your health pool with very little counter other than another sniper. Heavys that RPG you, you know are playing the game at lesser health pools, mines, etc. I can't even fathom how this is considered a more tactical experience. It's just attrition. Also, it completely abandons healing mediums.

At least let people slow revive if you are just going to put enough cheese in the game that makes us play the game mode at a lower health. I can't belive this is the ranked mode for the whole season.

[untold cypress]

I've been trying so hard to make Lewis gun or M60 work but I just feel like I can't fight back at any range.

[quiet cargo]

crashing is getting worse. crashing on matchpoint in comp TA

[shadow nebula]

Can we get a limit to the amount of mines/ads/torrents allowed in an area. Terminal attack is not playable at this point.

[stark venture]

How about a new gadget that disables turrets and traps, oh wait? Thats the ACP Turret? What amazing little tool

[cursive wadi]

U mean data reshaper?

[proper barn]

Bro can we please nerf the sonars? and LH1? Please hire some QA testers before making these patches go live.

[stiff tusk]

Did they buff lh1 again? (I'm alittle behind missed all of season 2)

[violet wing]

Anyone else getting ridiculously often stuck in terrain or debris in Kyoto ? And I mean stuck stuck, not "oh no I have to move and jump a bit."

@stiff tuskOh boy, they sure did, in fact we're having a bit of an outrage about it right now. It beams people down too fast, super range, close to no recoil, and aim assist are the bullet points.

[rapid surge]

my light build rn (for attack): M11, flashbang, breach charge, sonar grenade, grappling hook
rate it 1-10
also the person below me is a freak

[odd flax]

MATCHMAKING SUCKS ALWAYS GETTING PRE-RANKED TEAMMATES AND QUITTER MID GAME FUCK!!!

[opal plover]

There goes my periodic message wondering why just 6 loadouts, let me give you my money, I want to buy skins but I don't want to get rid of the loadouts I already have. Something as simple as bumping to 9 would be already a big improvement without cluttering the UI too much

[foggy turtle]

can we have rank change/tour progress show up for more that 1 second after the match ends? unless your eyes are glued to the screen the whole time you just miss it.

[tame quest]

Change the text so the 1150 multibucks fits on one line

[gloomy cave]

man the lh1 is too strong after this buff

[shadow nebula]

@stark venture Glitch Grenade can’t hit everything in the area and data reshaper doesn’t stop 16 mines and 4 turret within the time of planting that’s 4 mediums 1 heavy. Can add another 4 mines and 1 turret and aps system for terminal attack. Btw.

[grim patrol]

I think dual blades should remain a bit more of an engage type weapon, but should slow you down to just a little slower than riot shield block when you're being shot, that'd also give it an offensive counter play by hipfiring at a sword user while backing up to maximize back peddle speed from them even though it'll hurt you too, also the damage split between the wielder and the ttacker needs balanced a bit, the sword user needs to take a little bit more of the damage compared to now.

[wet furnace]

Can we get more crosshair customization options? Like turning it into a circle for shotguns/melee or have the option to make the outer lines get closer to the center dot. And getting rid of the crosshair displacement when you do some intense kind of movement. It would really help!

[daring fossil]

you nerfed the lookout on syshorizon 😦

[crisp oxide]

TERMINAL ATTACK HAS RUINED THE FINALS I FUCKING HATE U ALL DIE (I HAVE TRAUAMA) alos the melle is out of control wtf have u done to this great game

[patent wind]

make the new weapons better. And idc if smth is broken just shake up the meta. The only diff is the lh1. Im tired of fcar akm lewis m60 meta

[abstract harbor]

Day 212 of stating the obvious: Four team modes don't work.

[wooden trout]

wrong 🙂

[night tundra]

I’m at 40k elo right now so I’ve have a bit of playtime under my belt and I have to say, this is completely unbalanceable and balancing the game off TA will kill the game.

[lime crane]

mine is a circle

[frosty lichen]

Snipers are too op. Please nerf

[abstract geyser]

here is my take on these beautiful balance changes.

I was diamond 4 last season and was resting 6000-7000 on leaderboard until i stopped playing.

• lh1 is too powerful for being so easy to use, its end of season 2 state was more balanced than the current state.

• heavy hook into melee has the ability to one shot lights which defeats all outplay possibilities. how will you nerf stun gun from its former state and then implement a longer range stun gun with instant kill potential for a class that has the highest hp pool? doesn't make sense.

• medium dual blades feel bad to use and feel bad to play against, im not sure if its the duration or damage when reflecting, or the movement speed of it but it feels like a crappy riot shield and doesnt indicate well enough to opposing players when defensive stance is on compared to when riot shield is blocking

• rpgs feel really weird this season, they're able to do full 140 damage to enemies behind walls and through floors when previously it did damage depending on distance right? i swear its never felt this powerful since the damage was reduced to 140

• 93r is still crap

• v9s buff is fine but was only added because of all the other changes enabling light to be approachable for anyone, completely unnecessary without the other changes. v9s is not good against heavy hook right now. longer distance light weapons like the lh1 are destroying lobbies currently and it has killed the variety of playstyles

overall 4/10 changes i hope this next patch moves the game in the right direction cuz this is giving mad overwatch balancing rn

[fierce pawn]

The Aps trophy systems were nerf too hard. They are usless

[haughty bay]

Increase damage on medium double barrel shotgun range

[brave quarry]

xd yea of course. that’s obviously not too broken actually

[ruby brook]

ik its late but if yall see this embark PLEASE remove ta ranked or just add rank gains to world tour i dont want to see this game die the central playerbase revolves around high elo comp as dumb as it sounds if you remove that the core dies and its already dying every major streamer just avoids ranked as a whole and its not that terminals a bad gamemode its just not meant for ranked imagine if counter strike/siege/apex swapped their ranked gamemode it just wouldnt work out beacuse the hook that kept people here is gone it might seem small but for the people who wanna climb the ranked ladder are forced away from the mode they spent open beta till season 3 working on and getting better at you guys did an amazing job with the balance its never been in a better spot but its not for terminal and we wont be upset if yall swap it if anything it could boost playerbase due to publicity

[frail wave]

Born to play Cashout, Forced to play Terminal Attack.
Imagine if Riot Games removed Summoner's Rift Ranked and replaced it with ARAM Ranked
Please try to keep in mind the changes themselves rather than the values and variables. I.E Rather than focus on the ammo count I gave for example, focus on the reload change itself. These values can be changed for further balance.

👇HOW TO FIX TERMINAL ATTACK👇
RANKED TERMINAL ATTACK IS BUGGED, NOBODY WILL REACH RUBY FOR WEEKS
"The system is fucked, when we have to theorycraft how to gain points"
#💾┇terminal-attack-feedback message

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money, there is possibility that this makes it too good to hunt people down instead of playing the objective, because of this you can either go two ways, when a team gets wiped, they drop COINS like bank it., picking up these tokens gives you money **OR ** you only gain 15 % of their money.

The purpose of this addition is to coinside with the next change, i think holding objective may be TOO OP, there may be certain scenarios where holding a cashout makes it impossible for one team to win. Overall this is only an addition if the next change comes in.

• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+ Emerald 2+, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more
• Only One 22k vault should spawn, at this stage of the game, 1st place should be decided

there are no finals anymore
I know you want asian players to play more, but ask yourself... would you play a game that isn't spoken in a language that you understand?
Do you expect players to learn a language, just to play your game? The trailers already had a voiced Korean Announcer, where is he?

make an anime to win people back, the finals is an undercooked game with lots of potential and bad timing. Much like Cyberpunk 2077, what did C77 do ? Made a crazy good anime and THE FINALS has good setup for lore. I don't even like anime, but this would save the game (half joking)

[worldly sedge]

Change ranked back to cashout no one likes TA and you’re actively killing your game. Fix it before it’s too late.

[strange niche]

I like TA

[odd flax]

better matchmaking please!! always getting quitter/leaver midgame in Ranked *sigh it's hard to getting more point as solo player

[prime wing]

Just imagine this game without the sniper rifle for one minute, what a blissful minute 😩 👌

[distant sluice]

so have you made it just impossible to queue to monaco?

[small socket]

I think the ttk in this game has become too high. I should be able to react when i get shot.

[warm herald]

I echo alot of these thoughts.

[midnight oxide]

Why does my game keep saying server timeout and then banning me for leaving a game? I was banned for trying to reconnect to my game that it lagged me out of.

[novel crow]

TA Ranked sucks

[warm iron]

Remove the yell from charge & slam because it’s too darn funny

[daring fossil]

there's a lot of issues with the winch, if you get winched as you are going up a zipline it bugs out and the camera goes all crazy but you continue to go up the zipline, sometimes if you get winched in the middle of doing certain actions it will just stop you from being able to do certain actions for the rest of the game. I just got winched and couldn't shoot after, luckily it was the end of the game and I had a team mate earlier today who couldn't interact or pick things up or steal after being winched, also it's crazy that it goes through shields when literally nothing else does.

[hollow cloak]

any weapon is op if you can use it and anyway the sniper needs to be buffed

[tall geyser]

I would like the game to be more beginner friendly as in lower ranked with lower ranked and have maps/games show best weapons to use, like melee vs melee to make it more fair. It's just a bit of a struggle to go up against players who are already really good at games like this versus people who just want to play for fun. Might just be me though

[rich forge]

So I’ve been directed to this channel instead, TA RANKED IS LAME

[hasty ingot]

The morion blur setting doesnt stay on when you return back to the game

[slate mauve]

Keep TA Ranked!

(heheh reverse psychology)

[supple obsidian]

Terminal Attack was and is a terrible mode.
5v5 Quick Cash would fix the issue of third partying and it would provide a 5vs5 mode in line with the Cashout core gameplay.
5v5 Quick Cash would be a superior ranked mode to TA if you don't want to bring back CO.

[swift laurel]

make it so WT also counts for rank score as well, i dont like TA and i hate needing 4 other people to grind the game i dont have anyone with spare time like i have

[quick coyote]

i dont wanna play kyoto. we have been playing it for fucking hours.

[fathom stream]

does anyone think it is stupid how there is no healing in 5v5 ranked?

[deft jetty]

Hey everyone, I wanted to share a thought I had about the World Tour contracts in the game. Currently, we have three contracts that renew every two weeks: playing 10 rounds of World Tour, winning 3 matches in World Tour, and getting 50 eliminations in World Tour. These tasks are pretty straightforward and can easily be completed within the first day, as I managed to do.

However, this ease of completion means that everyone is likely to achieve these contracts, making them less impactful and not very beneficial in setting players apart.

I believe it would be much smarter if these contracts expired every 2 days and restarted, giving us 7 opportunities within the two-week period to complete them. This way, if you miss out on completing the contracts within the two-day limit, you'd miss out on those extra points that could really make a difference in standing out from the rest of the player base.

By implementing this change, the contracts would not only be more challenging but also add a layer of strategy and urgency, making the game more engaging.

P.S. I used ChatGPT to help write and spruce up this suggestion. I hope it adds value to our discussion!

also yeah, for future new maps, especially in the ranked lobbies, new maps should be restricted to at most 5% of the cycle. i feel like i'm stuck in suicide forest with a bag of marshmallows and no sleeping bag

[unkempt parcel]

I havent seen vagas in forever

[quick coyote]

Good

Buff m60

[ocean epoch]

Winch is SUCH an annoying skill to be on the receiving end of. No one enjoys cc in games. No one asked for this. When there are squads with three heavies running them… you can’t counter it at all.

Kyoto. The map is beautiful, great job on that. But there is something extremely frustrating about playing on this map. Visual clutter? Never would I have said that there is TOO much detail. I can’t even adjust the setting so that I can see the enemies through all the foliage. My character keeps getting caught on random debris laying around. Broken bamboos, broken guardrails, it ruins the momentum of fights and movement.

LH1 feels great but definitely over tuned.. perhaps consider giving it some damage drop off?

Agree with all the sentiments of players that don’t enjoy TA. I don’t enjoy that game mode either. The game wasn’t designed from the ground up to be a 5v5 attack and defend. Please leave that to games like Valorant and CSGO that specialize in it. How do you balance the classes for two game modes that play completely different?? Fix the core fundamentals of your main game mode and classes first before a side game mode. Forcing players that the only ranked mode on a polarizing game mode that isn’t the core of the game is frustrating.

Appreciate all the work the devs put into this season but it’s a frustrating start to the season. A lot of food for thought here.

[warm compass]

lh1 so powerful nerf rapidfire . buff heavy mesh shield . heavy is so weak

[wispy latch]

Just refresh the game and bring the season 1 balance back, i play the beta non stop and season 1 like a crazy monkey but after all these strange patches I quit the game, I skip season 2 completely and now I try season 3 and it’s a mess. Light and heavy are the Meta and medium is just a healer class now its absolutely useless in combats. The biggest problem is this game transform into a Overwatch Clone idk something like this. If you play solo GOOD LUCK and if you play solo ranked? MUCH LUCK because this game is without team speak a mess. Ps: I have over 300+ friends in my list and nobody play this game.

[gaunt perch]

Agreed. Dual blades should be deadly and less defensive, Riot shield should be more reliably defensive but it just doesn't work

[daring fossil]

LH1 was fine the way it was, just needed the small damage increase to stop the annoying fights where you die and your opponent has 3hp. It feels so bad with the recoil changes that I can't even use it now even though it's way easier to use comparatively, I've mained it since beta

@violet elbow it kicked like crazy and you have to be good at being able to fight the recoil while spamming it AND landing all your shots. It did need the small damage increase if anything and that's all it needed. if that's all they did to it, barely anyone would even notice a difference.

[pliant spruce]

Please stop talking nonsense.
The light is very strong now, but it kills fast. Needs a tiny nerve of LH1 damage and throwing knives

The medium is PERFECT! The most balanced class, I make crazy scores with it!

The heavy has become ... Weak .. too weak...

At the limit the medium is to add a CD on its deflect yr the

[delicate yoke]

LH1 needs a nerf to both damage and fire rate and nerf charge and slam damage. Both are just too powerful.

[violet elbow]

It DID NOT need the damage increase, the gun should not kill faster than an SMG, now it does

but somehow embark didnt look at a ttk chart or a stats chart in general before changing the LH1

[olive kestrel]

I agree with u, on what u said, and nonsense has been spewing for a quite a minute now💀 although I feel medium can be a bit overbearing at times just like the lh1 is at the moment

[mild zealot]

Nerf LH1 again that thing was always good now its broken

[wide sun]

Nerf LH1

[warm herald]

I have played 3-4 games of TA and I am absolutely done with it. I go out of my way to avoid valorant/CSGO type games because they are not for me. I don't enjoy dying in 2 seconds and staring at a spectate for two minutes. I also play ranked modes in any game they're available. This mode is not fun for me or my group. We're done with ranked until S4 and play much less compared to s2 because of how unserious/boring world tour is combined with the absolutely disgusting state of the meta.
The move to melee weapons/lh1 (which was overbuffed) meta feels awful, heavy weapons that aren't spear/slug are useless due to the un-needed nerfs to lewis/m60. The only good change to old weapons was the nerf to throwing knives. Power creep has become VERY BAD. Spear is a better sledge, swords are a better riot shield etc. There is almost no reason to use them as they've been essentially superseded by these new weapons. A BIG thing is the hook. This has absolutely ZERO PLACE IN THE FINALS. HARD CC IN A SHOOTER SHOULD NOT EXIST!! Have we learned nothing from overwatch?! There is nothing that feels worse than losing control of your character in a shooter /getting displaced. And in this game it's even worse because there's no hero system to hard counter/cleanse things like a stun. We nerfed the stun gun (rightfully so) but add something that is 3x as good to heavy? Are you kidding me? Remove this hook crap in s4 or make it a gadget and only make it usable on objects/totems to grab allies to res them. This has no place in the finals.
Most gadgets, slow/medium range weapons do not fit in this format at ALL. Grenades are barely used, same thing with mines. Anything that's not long range puts you at an immediate disadvantage. The whole mode is best played when you have a bunch of lights playing team death match where everyone only has one life. Very rarely do I see teams actually playing the objective. Medium having half their kit disabled illustrates how fundamentally incompatible this format is with the finals. Since turret is your only "real" option, the turret auto aims and snaps to people, chipping away at their HP which no longer recovers. Sonar revealing you is devastating because of this as well, your position is revealed, people can jump you and its over.
Finally a small point: Kyoto is not fun in cashout. It's very obvious that the mode was designed for terminal attack, and once cashout returns (if it does) as the ranked mode, this map has glaring problems. There's almost no verticality, the map modifiers like moving platforms/suspended structures feel terrible on it and the map is designed with lanes/sections clearly defined, almost like it is a CSGO map, cause it is.
IN SUMMARY: Big issues with season 3 include the unfun/toxic meta shift to melee weapons. Power creep. The shift to a ranked format which is fundamentally incompatible with this game's classes/gadgets, rendering a large portion of them less or more powerful by simply being in this search and destroy format. This same format is slow, doesn't take much use of the destruction physics that make the finals THE FINALS, and any map that isn't kyoto is painfully obvious that it does not work/wasn't designed with terminal attack in mind.
FOR S4, MY SUGGESTIONS: Keep world tour, but make the ruleset change weekly to keep it fresh, the mode is fun but not being positioned alongside a ranked cashout feels like a punch in the gut. Bring back a tweaked ranked cashout to replace terminal attack and keep TA as a queueable non ranked mode with a best of 7 format. Scale back the power of the weapons/gadgets that were buffed in season 3. Shift away from the heavy melee weapon meta you created in season 3 and try to make the items superseded useful in some capacity again. Finally: REMOVE/REWORK THE HOOK! This item is a big mistake.
Sincerely,
A 300+ hours the finals player who has played a collective 3 hours this past week.
credit to @verbal kayak

[broken geyser]

Give more character slots

Nerf Lh1

Give a toggle mode to throw spear

Give facial hair

Let us choose character voices and new voices

New body types cause just 2 don't make sense( but same hitbox)

[simple hull]

please fix the game, so much crashing and packet loss since s3 start. it's honestly ridiculous

[floral thorn]

Remove the hook please

[midnight oxide]

Why would they change how ranked works again I’m this close to uninstalling

[paper gale]

anybody enjoying shitassult i mean terminal attack

[wheat frigate]

14k active players on Steam 3 days after new season drops…… Congratulations Embark on killing own game 🪦

[mossy otter]

Can we please get the binary of Finals S1/S2 version and host our own LAN/private matches?

[abstract geyser]

let me add to this

• kyoto has really bad fps issues that need to be addressed, no reason players should see 60-100 fps drops even with lowered graphics because of a map

• release the kitsune mask please, i had it in beta give it back >:(

• lh1 headshot damage should not be 156 for no recoil

• bow is okay, should have a better option for no full charge for hip fire or something to allow for survivability, very hard to help your team with it instead of any other weapon

• ranked was a key reason i played this game, i wanted a game that was fun, innovative, good looking, and had an option for decent competitive gameplay and now the largest reason i kept playing after season 1 is now gone, once this battlepass is done i will not play again, terminal attack is not the best and it should either be a secondary ranked choice like overwatch does with competitive CTF and stuff, or it should be only cashout.

[cold shoal]

Bro just posted his essay jeez

[remote fox]

the fps problem is because of global illumination if they let us turn it off your frames will double

[real raven]

bring back the old ranked mode. TA is garbage. Also the ranked points distribution is all fucked up. I lose way more than I gain

[elfin patio]

bows magnetism needs to be nerfed, ranked has just been spear and swords

[prime wing]

ah just get rid of the tks at this point even the noise is annoying haha

I JUST STOOD IN FRONT OF A GUY HOLDING DEFLECT BOTH OF US STILL AS STATUES AND HE PUMPED 3 CLIPS INTO ME, NOT A SINGLE ROUND DEFLECTED INTO HIM, WE WERE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER 🤣

[wicked jolt]

Games good but melee weapons needed a buff about all of em while their fun to play their not viable and js useless in comp

[tribal vortex]

If Cashout isn’t brought back in the next week or so then I’m dropping the game. Had so much fun with Season 2 and the new season so far has been impressively disappointing 😓

[sharp wind]

BUG ALERT -- the thermal bore scope sensitivity does not follow the scoped sensitivity multiplier, very irritating

[quick coyote]

nerf LH1 this week

[vagrant raptor]

the dual swords are either bugged or need a in depth guide on how they work. 75%+ of the bullets i try deflecting just disappear. if deflection is going to be a feature on these things then it needs to be more consistent.

also the swords themselves without deflection are very weak, they need to swing faster or something because if the deflection bugs out then theres not a chance i win the fight with how bad they are as a regular melee weapon.

[harsh flicker]

terminal attack sucks ass revert back to cashout ranked the game isnt made for terminal attack ranked

[violet elbow]

the high burst damage weapons on Light (TKs, Lh1, Db, Bow, sniper) being easy to use and rewarding the way they are right now makes the class absolutely miserable to play against, on light you just lose to people spamming oneshots your way now.

we never really wanted the class to be easier, we wanted the class to have a place in the ranked meta, which it does now but the needless weapon buffs led to the class also being absolutely unbearable and cringe in a pubs setting because it lost most if not all of its skill expression there.

[pseudo surge]

TA IS DOG SHIT

[sacred sluice]

i not cure,Fix this BUG pls!!

[cedar patio]

When I play cash out in kyoto map, there may be texture display bug when the moving platform passes some specific places

[tall wave]

I main light, I don’t think weapons like the throwing knives or lh1 needed buffs (gadgets did and I am happy with the new invis stun gun and heal buff) These new weapon buffs made a lot of players try light when they wouldn’t usually and I find there’s been an increase in usless light teammates which is frustrating. Also the terminal attack hate is weird to me since cash out still seems to be the main game mode and you aren’t forced to play terminal attack, I’m not aware of any rewards that are locked behind TA either. I don’t like TA either but I just don’t play it, I don’t see how TA being the new ranked mode is so controversial since it’s objectively a more competitive mode

@cold bolt TA is definitely more competitive having one life and no 3rd partying or random last second steals are more competitive, not as fun as cashout but TA is more competitive. i agree the game isnt balanced or made for s&d but i like the destruction element it adds so that fights are more dynamic and interesting vs other s&d games where youll be fighting in the same couple lanes pointing you crosshairs at the same couple doorways for the entirety of a games life cycle which is why i see the appeal of and appreciate this games take on the gamemode if people like it and wanna play it i think thats good. i didnt know the ranked skins were only in ta since in world tour you seem to have a rank there as well. if those skins were made available to world tour players i think that would be better but i have a feeling people would still be mad at TA. cashout still exists tournaments still exist and are the focus of the games balancing i see nothing wrong with adding a gamemode and i encourage the devs experimentation with this cool new sandbox

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[hidden idol]

I love how all these low skilled heavy players complain about light being somewhat viable for once and attempt to make light irrelevant again. Lh1 is fine, get over it. Lights need damage and even then they are countered in so many ways and being oneshot in so many ways. Lights are still useless in any cashout mode and in ta they are viable but still not great. If anything needs nerf its heavy, any competent heavy player is laughing at light players.

[mild zealot]

people dont like it bc it makes this games ranked mode a clone of every other games ranked mode and ruin the uniqueness that it used to have

[cold bolt]

S&D is only more competitive in a vacuum. Yes, it's a tried and true competitive mode, there are at least 3 very popular fps games still successful to this day that revolve around S&D.

In this game, it is definitely not more competitive than Cash Out. This game wasn't built for S&D, whether it be the maps, the abilities, the guns or the kill time. Cash Out had issues yes, but what we had then was infinitely better than Terminal Cancer.

Not to mention people just don't play this game for S&D in the first place, so ofc people are upset.

Also, like every season, gold plat diamond (and now ruby) skins are locked behind ranked elo, and this season's ranked is TA.

in ta they are viable but still not great
Not true. The current TA meta is 5x LH1 invis lights with sonar grenades

[night dune]

This sucks

[upper saddle]

Some fun ideas for new toys in The Finals- if we make it to season 4 at this rate.

Weapons-

Model 1897 (not the model 1887)- also called a Trench Gun, slam-fire shot gun for medium loaded with dragon's breath, similar effective range and damage outputs to the SA1216 but with the added benefit of Fire Damage for an added dot and burning goo/gas, although a 5 shell capacity and single loading.

XM-25 for light, as a higher velocity lower damage per hit grenade launcher with a more direct flight path and fast rate of fire.

Desert Eagle for heavy, their own version of R.357 with worse range and a slower rate of fire but bigger per-shot damage, let heavy in the hand gun club already!

Specializations-

Personal Shield for Medium, pressing Q to activate a shield that's worth 100 hit points but loses 5 hit points per second while active recharging at a rate of 5 points per second when not active, a benefit for front line and fragging mediums who need an edge against the heavies.

Rewind for Light, Pressing Q to send the light back to where he was 4 seconds ago with the health he had four seconds ago as well!

Fire-Bomb Launcher with a recharge of 1 shell every 15 seconds and a maximum of 3 charges, with each shell dealing minimal damage on impact but acting like a pyro nade otherwise burning an area.

Gadgets-

Hologram for light- acting similarly to the one we saw in Halo Reach to bamboozle our enemies.

Medi-Dart gun for medium, a weaker alternative to the Healing beam to offer some diversity and usage in the specializations we see employed by mediums in the core game modes- allowing them to pick another specialization without giving up all healing options.

No idea what Heavy really needs for another gadget.

But these are just some fun ideas, I don't expect any of them to make it into the game but who knows, they'd certainly be a lot of fun and mix things up.

[slender oasis]

The winch claw needs to be a bit more regulated, as it can pull stuff thru other things unintentionally

[haughty bay]

Please add a LGBTQ outfit in game because you made a gayass game

[visual quarry]

please create a debuff for weapons like throwing knives and bows, return LH1 to patch 2.10.0 (it's amazing that arrows or knives can spawn without a punishment, it just shoots endlessly with absurd damage, while weapons like shotguns or RPG have a cooldown or reload time).

[young smelt]

If a gun is being used by every single player in a match the majority of the time, it is not fine. If you think LH1 is fair right now (and you use it), you are outing yourself as no-skill.

[scarlet niche]

Where is the Channel for the instant report!?I meet cheater in RANK FINAL ROUND!!!I can’t post video or screenshot in any channel!!!

[mental dagger]

Lh1 is crazy powerful revert to old.. I personally think the game will grow more with terminal attack as the ranked mode
Get some of the old cod snd players hooked

[abstract geyser]

as a high skilled light player, lh1 is absolutely unbalanced and definitely an issue, light has always been viable from beta to now but over powered =/= okay. Light is a glass canon, a high skill high risk high reward playstyle and it should not have such easy, free, riskless damage potential without a tradeoff. the tradeoff before was high visual recoil which made it harder to hit those high damage shots, but not its almost hard NOT to miss them.

[dull hemlock]

-World Tour's limited map variety is already getting old. This might not be a problem if it wasn't the only option to play tourneys/cashout.
-Obligatory "Bring back ranked cashout."
-Winch claw is purely an anti fun tool. It might be fun for the person using it, but getting combo'd by a stun plus displacement tool is just miserable. Even when I'm the one using it I feel bad. It's not even hard to land. Not to mention how silly it is with pulling people around corners/through walls.
-Dual blade's third hit on their combo needs to not hit like a limp noodle. The deflect arc could also afford to be more generous, and if not that then at least increase the accuracy of deflected shots.
-Spear's right click has massive issues with hit reg and overall just feels incredibly screwy.
-Buffing LH1. Why? Just... why?
-Bugs, bugs, bugs. Many of which have been around since season 2. Infinite load screens, being unable to sprint, hit reg issues, warping enemies, goo breaking for no reason when I use demat on an unrelated part of the structure, dual blades swinging automatically when swapping from a tablet gadget/spec, broken heal beam, melee weapons appearing while carrying objects, perma glitched UI, etc. I genuinely can't think of them all off of the top of my head.
-Reshaper needs a very small input delay (Even a tenth of a second or something) so if you're trying to spam click to get off a clutch reshape on an RPG or something you don't instantly waste both charges.

Probably more.

[mild ruin]

people asking for throw spear, but they didnt tell what the hell heavy will gonna do after....

[quick coyote]

Heavies should have to hit their shots and be rewarded for being able to do so. LMGS shouldn’t have zero recoil like how the m60 was changed. Give them good damage, but bad recoil. Like an ACTUAL LMG. In compensation for a recoil nerf but damage buff to heavies LMGs:

Nerf the broken DPS utility. When nerfing the primaries, even good heavy players will crutch on RPG and charge more. Nerfing these broken DPS utilities will cause heavies to play more into their defensive and destructive roles, and have rewarding and stable LMGs to rely on.
Not zero damage plink machines with no recoil (current m60).

[mossy otter]

Thank you for this message. I swear to god, thank you.

[slim crane]

Mouse & keyboard in consoles please!!!

[warm compass]

buff heavy shield

[jagged knot]

Give DATA reshaper to LIGHT

[ruby halo]

Please find a way to fix the heal gun bug, its been here since season one and it forces you to lose games

[crisp heart]

Embark can you give weapons multiple sticker slots plzzz?? Even just 1 more sticker would be amazing!!!

[worldly mason]

ring back ranked cashout

[static wolf]

I agree. this game was and is balanced around cashout. terminal just feels horrible to play. its not strategic and its not a tournament

[midnight bison]

you summed it all up

[finite dirge]

Nerf throwing knifes pls

[abstract geyser]

they should be adding fun gamemodes not terminal attack ranked. ranked was working pretty well in s2.
maybe some stuff like points for most destruction in a certain amount of time
capture the flag
oddball
not forcing an unbalanced, unfun gamemode down the playerbases throat, but something fun, unqiue, something that actually meshes well with how the game is built yknow?

[trim hinge]

I've had a bug(?) lately where sometimes when i get in a game it gets stuck on the loading screen, I can hear game soubnds and then after about 5 minutes it crashes

[floral thorn]

nerf throwing knives and lh1 i beg you

[lapis otter]

Wtf is this lh1 I’m dropping 30 bombs no issues, before it was hard to do. This lh1 just insta kills everyone

[tall wave]

i agree with this
@cold bolt you literally are "handwaving" what i said. having one life is more competitive no 3rd partying or random last second steals are more competitive, consistency is important in competitive modes. we all agree TA sucks and the game isnt/shouldnt be balanced around it and we all agree i dont know who youre arguing with when you say the game wasnt made for it, but youre just wrong when you say that cashout is more competitive. just dont play TA, very simple. when embark sees the low player count in that mode theyll change things, embark has been open to change and criticism about all aspects of this game and im sure the community outcry will lead them in the right direction. typing "terminal cancer" all over their discord isnt gonna have the effect you think it will.

[quick coyote]

its like they dont actually test the balance changes they make at all and just make us suffer until the next patch and see what we complain about

[mild zealot]

yeah anyone with a brain is calling for a nerf that thing is so unbelievably broken

[mossy otter]

indeed, any team which has 2 or more lights can absolutely annihilate the opponents.

[scarlet heron]

Why have a fucking prompt of pressing Y after a match to play again if you made it so pressing Y after a match makes you report a player. Bind any unused button to play again like cmon bro this is embarrassing

[cold bolt]

didn't see the edit as reply until now

You can't hand-wave this game not being made for S&D in what I said before. TA is not more competitive than Cash Out when it exists as the mess it currently is. Again, S&D is only more competitive in games built for the mode. This game was not, don't gloss over it. If you've played the mode at all you know it doesn't fit, most ppl in vc, reddit, yt, discord, twitch are saying the same thing.

Yes, Cash Out has multiple teams, third party tactics and some bs last second steals for winner takes all. Despite all that, it has better strategic depth than TA ever will in this game. Arguably more gun skill too considering TA is just invis LH1.

[royal gust]

I fully agree with this

[scarlet niche]

Where is the Channel for the instant report!?I meet cheater in RANK FINAL ROUND!!!I can’t post video or screenshot in any channel!!!Including the guide in video-player-reports is so wasted that I can’t find the create-thread ! I am very disappointed in first rank experience!!!

[copper ivy]

Infinite loading screens are happening way to much, pls fix

[odd rapids]

i get it yall want us to play the new map but it should not have a 80% pick chance all i play is that damn map

[odd ibex]

Listen people we need kusarigama weapon for light and it’s versatile and unique and it can be used as a whip long range and close range blade and many abilities,watch this move set of the weapon https://youtube.com/shorts/pe8GgAxBifA?si=DObeeH0h72yVzBbE

Also make heavy hook a gadget without pulling your players

[crisp heart]

at this point im also 100% sure you are gonna nerf it embark but the lh1 buff was WAY too strong - the weapon already was insanely great in the right hands. it feels unfair to use now.... it is fun though. i am a medium main but im going to abuse this as much as possible just to accelerate the nerf. thank you

[spring meteor]

Spear need changes asap, otherwise people will “exploit”. make it so you can control how many swings, make it not restrict as much movement and make the combo timings a bit faster, otherwise its kind of weak outside of powershift

[sick stag]

Ranked TA Bug that caused a lost game(I have the clip)

A jump pad was place under the key and it for some reason teleported 170 meter away (probably where the spawn point is)

Give me my rs back gang

[spiral wren]

There are way too many cheaters in ranked matches. If you're going to change the ranking system, at least get rid of the cheaters. If you can't do that, then revert the ranking system to how it was before.

[proper barn]

Hey Embark, people can get their friends to queue in bronze on a smurf which they have INTENTIONALLY DERANKED and make other people lose more elo and make themselves and their friends gain more elo while smurfing at the same time. Good QA!

[faint tinsel]

BRING BACK CASHOUT

[vagrant raptor]

yeah idk why they changed it, if its not broke don’t fix it. you can press a then y though to do play again now.

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[dense reef]

I already said it before, but I'll say it again: Embark please undo the CL-40 nerfs. It's just so unfair towards the gun, it already used to be by far one of the weakest medium weapons with the highest TTK and now it's completely unusable - and I say that as someone who has played over 300 hours on it alone. It's impossible to duel Lights now and significantly harder with other classes as well

[quick coyote]

Hopefully we get balance changes this week.

[tropic sequoia]

Punish quitting in TA harder! Every round at least one player quits and you have no chance

[honest siren]

idk how many people have already said this, but please revert the changes to sliding on bounce pads.

There is no serious change in gameplay by it being in the game. Sliding on bounce pads to gain a slight boost to movement speed only adds to the movement style of the game, and only makes a difference on a few pads in the old maps. Im not sure if it has to do with a complication on the new maps, but it was just a really fun mechanic that added to the way bounce pads could be used.

Please, sliding on bounce pads doesnt hurt anyone or cause any negative impact to any players. its just a neat thing that can give you a slight boost to momentum that could make or break some moments, like when the bouncepad is just slightly to far away from the suspended structure.

it only hurts the game for it to not be there anymore, nothing is gained by taking it away.

If anybody else agrees, please speak up, because i dont want this to be a forgotten mechanic in the game. Its a small thing, but its a neat thing that adds to the game in ways that are fun for everyone.

[fallow fractal]

genuinely so real i had an entire team quit on me cause they were losing so hard 😭

[blissful horizon]

I would just like to see some general quality of life changes like making a toggel for the in game voice chat that still allows you to hear your teamate but be mute and easily switch. A rework of custom matches to allow for us to make our own team other that autofill would be greatly appreciated

[fervent citrus]

Was a bit cautious but still optimistic for S3, but not gonna lie, I'm not in favor of it anymore as well. First and foremost, "Cashout will never leave the spotlight as the most important part of THE FINALS.", while new players are required to play 5 matches of TA to unlock other modes such as quick cash. The vault and cashout gameplay is so unique and made me fall in love with this game.

Health regen values, guardian turret change, glitch mine rework, and gadget changes are all good. Alongside some minor weapon tweaks and improvements to useability such as KS-23 pump rate.

Now the bad.

Remember when cloak light db spam that can 2-shot any class in S1? Well, now we have throwing knives (where nobody uses the charge attack anymore its all spam), bow with no falloff, LH1 buffed even more, and db is back to being able to 2-shot any class.

Remember when light stun gun spam giving free kills? Well, now we have the winch claw for heavy that not only stuns, but also pulls and allows them to do a survivable point blank rpg.

What happened to the "long ttk" gameplay?

The CL40 was given a damage nerf and a fire rate buff, making it one of the second lowest dps to the lowest dps weapon. The only poasible reason for this is due to it's burst being too good in TA but in TTK, it's one of the slowest and will lose most duels if not careful. This change made it unable to fight against heavies and emphasized the long reload time due to the 4 rounds being gone quicker.

In s2 ranked, despite it being a poor pick, I still brought it to plat. It's main gimmick is despite the low dps, you need to play safely/area denial and learn its trajectory for mid-long shots. The fire rate, reload, and ammo was low but it was rewarding to hit direct hits.

Overall. Didn't care about TA, but if core game and balance changes are catered to it instead of the core gameplay of the game it will mess up balances for other modes. Showing more that, already built gameplay and balance isn't fit for it.

[eternal goblet]

nerf the lh1 nowwwwwwwwww pls

[broken geyser]

Embark should rework the spear such that it can be thrown with a toggle feature. They should also fix the alt attack cause it feels super inefficient and clunky as of now.

bring back the slide jumping mechanic on the jump pad. These movement mechanic are what makes the game better and it creates a skill ceiling. It gives an incentive for players to players to practice these mechanics and become consistent. this also includes that double jump thing when climbing a obstacle.

Nerf the LH1 and the throwing knives. Give the throwing knives and bow some sort of reload animation like picking up bows and taking knives from the pocket.

in kyoto, maybe more jump pads can be inserted cause rn some of the jumpads are one sided and take a long time to reach cash outs. So if they were more jumpads on the opposite direction that would be great.

We also need more character slots with the new skins we're getting.
Another thing for cosmetics - they should let you choose voice
The finals should also have more than 2 body types to choose from

[night surge]

No lmao

[dusk matrix]

revert lh1 damadge back to 49 but keep the rest of the recoil changes

[wispy latch]

This game is pretty unbalanced idk why but this game goes season after season in the wrong way and if you read all the comments here it shows it looks not good for this game. It has much potential but I see less and this is very sad

[lavish shard]

Nerf Lh1
Nerf spam TK bow
Nerf Rpg claw
Reduce recoil lewis
Light need survivality not damage buff

[mossy otter]

I second everything that's in here.

[plain harness]

Can we make use of vrs? Feels pointless to have it when you have everything unlocked

[worldly scaffold]

Revert LH1 (it is doenright oppressive right now) also revert CL40

[spark shard]

• bundle = 850
• buy separately = 830

maths failure

[coral pivot]

Hilarious

[olive shell]

Ranked TA is so boring. Bring back ranked cashout

[violet elbow]

Heavy: LMGs should be controllable and lower DPS than medium guns, not low DPS and unlearnable recoil patterns (Lewis), also Claw is the same bullshit old stun was.

• Revert Lewis to OB Recoil

• Slightly buff M60 range

• Nerf Claw Range to around 10-13m

• Nerf Charge and Slam

• allow Melee in Mesh again

Medium: in a very healthy spot, some weapons could use a bit of love, generally the glitch trap change did a lot for this class

• Slightly Buff FCAR Range

• Buff Famas famas range and give it a zoomed scope (please)

• Buff Dematerializer to 4 uses

• Buff revolver reload speed

Light: Invis Nerfs + Burst weapon buffs led to a toxic dash + single shot weapon playstyle for most people

• Revert TKs damage buff (5 hit against mediums again)

• make TKs and Bow less spamable by either significantly increasing their shot delay, or by giving them a reload animation.

• revert Lh1 damage buff, nerf Lh1 rpm further, keep the recoil change

• slightly buff XP54 reload speed (to allow more pressure like every other light weapon can put on people now)

• Rework Invis, no shooting in invis anymore, cloak/decloak time, fully invis while standing still and make it harder to see while moving again, maybe even more total duration aswell

[plain patio]

legit this is how i first thouight the spear would work

[sudden tangle]

Dont balance light around ranked TA. Ranked TA is killing the game. Add full ranked to world tour for people that prefer cashout. Buff light, still weakest class in competitive cashout.

[crisp heart]

PLEASE add hud safezone please please please embark add a hud safezone option i am BEGGING YOU 🙏

[upbeat urchin]

Suggestion : light does not need the stun gun anymore, so give it to medium, at least melee weapons will be viable.
Oh and blocking/reflecting bullets with the dual blades does not work in an online match

[copper onyx]

I know this has been said to death but please save us from the LH1

[misty swift]

When I have 14 kills in a ranked TA I get around 1000 RS and when I kill only 4 people still I get around 900 RS, so what the fuck?

[icy kestrel]

#Bringbackcashoutranked

[woeful arch]

drink more OSPUZE

[vivid kindle]

employ humans to take support tickets

[waxen verge]

uncensor lmao

[tall herald]

pleeeeease +3 loadouts at least, with all the new stuff and new modes it would really be a great help to have more loadouts

[drowsy vector]

Played 6 TA ranked matches yesterday with a friend of mine. We’re both still silver, almost gold. All 6 matches we played against 5 stacks including top 500 players, and of course we got slaughtered to oblivion. Our teammates were mostly unranked, and some of them might have touched the game for the first time looking at their movement. Man, that was so demotivating.. Please give me proper teammates when going against the best players. I’m already giving TA a fair chance even though I want cashout ranked, this isn’t really helping tbh

[wispy ivy]

dual blades buff ideas:
more damage, duh, most basic idea
some form of animation cancelling with the block, 90% of the time you cant block because of some other animation in the way like attacking or even just pulling them out
increase the damage resist percent, you die really quickly even if you are blocking every shot
increase reflect area, its impossible to fight more than one person with them
give the attacks a bit of "magnetism"?, make them pull you towards the enemy because you cannot chase down anyone except a heavy

sorta just pick and choose, theres def other ideas these are just what i thought of but DAMN i desperately want animation cancelling on the block dear god embark please

[tepid zephyr]

Can we get some kind of hud indicator that a grenade landed right next to my feet instead of an audio call out cos in the height of battle you can’t hear those above all the explosions and gun fire

[magic prism]

Waited 30 mins to load into a game , still not in very annoying how crossplay is blurred so I cant load into a game ever stuck to playing quick cash because I can’t load into a single game of world tour very annoying please fix

[mystic briar]

prop hunt cuz why not

[odd ibex]

plz add Kusarigama to lights as it has both chain and blade so can u go for charged attacks for longer range chain blade attack and close range attacks,extremely versatile weapons.

Add chainsaw to heavy class for a short charge forward attack and heavy swing like hammer,imagine the destruction

Add a automatic crossbow(look at the weapon in farcry4)for medium or heavy that sticks to walls and u can climb on it,it give a new range for vertical travel

Add a fast downward lunge attack for dagger while falling and since u go fast downward gravity isn’t floaty that does more damage the higher u fall cause I don’t want to chase people around like a dumb goose and actually ambush people

U can add a laser sight to rpg that’s visible to everyone as a warning and u need to aim down sight to use rpg so no quick spamming rpg out of nowhere.

U should use grapple hook to stick whenever u want no cool-down to horizontal surfaces up on rooms for ambush and vertical too.

Healing dart gadget for lights so I have a reason to follow team mates not not go solo,atleast u have to be accurate and not a auto-aim beam spam

Add single action fanning revolver for light that’s projectile based,it’s accurate long distance and fast fire at close.

Have different game balance built around games modes cause what’s fun in casual is annoying in ranked and power shift like sniper and explosives

Sorry for the ping cause others r complain about s3

[modest warren]

12,769 player on Steam 😂😂😂😂 terminal attack is the way 🚽

[proper chasm]

The finals is detecting Aim Labs and Forza Horizon as "disallowed tools"

[silent palm]

#Bringbackcashoutranked

[acoustic gust]

What were you smoking when you made these changes???! Revert the LH1 and nerf throwing knifes ASAP!!!!!

[tired oasis]

the new meta does it too, getting smashed in melee is boring

[hallow jewel]

PLS PATCH THIS FCKG HEAVY, he is cheated

[plain patio]

yeah heavy has gotta be in one of the worst spots rn with the new spear and chain - its insane how many 3 stack heavies i see all using chain and spear/sledge because its so hard to play against with triple dome shield

[glacial condor]

Nerf lh1

[quick coyote]

Bring back cashout ranked also stop nerfing good guns. Literally ruined the LMGs and added claw making it so melee heavy is meta. Instead of nerfing guns you should nerf RPG damage.

[dense timber]

I will say that I wish a couple of changes made to the game would be

1. Keep Terminal Attack Name but Turn it into Demolition from Older CoD games (Respawning vs Single Life)
   This would allow the variety and fun, that Cashout can bring but different versus it feeling like playing Generic Hero Shooter Clone #17
2. Respawn Changes
   I wish the game adopted a system of starting off with really fast respawn times (under 6 seconds) then gradually increases the more death that you acquire. There are some cases where Team Respawning is faster than the individual respawn sometimes, making it the penalty of dying feel worse than a Team Wipe.

I like The Finals as it isn't like any other shooter out there except BRINK, even if this game becomes niche with dedicated fans, Season 4 is going to see how they define themselves, and from the looks of it World Tour could be the way to introduce in modes and concepts into the game since its bi-weekly, if not it could be the future format of Ranked. Only time will tell
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk

[quick coyote]

please for the love of god bring back old ranked

[next trench]

bc the modes ASS and shouldnt be a ranked mode dont blame the quitters

[tall wave]

let us keep shooting while being chained by heavies, theyve never been able to close the gap this fast before and its ability to move the cashout is a bit much

[quick coyote]

The fact a hotfix to nerf LH1 didn't drop just shows how out of touch the fellas at embark are. Let alone buffing the weapon in the first place.

[rough herald]

heavy burst damage need to be nerf

140 rpg
130 charge, and or 50 min damage slam

basically insta kill medium and criple heavy. now doble that for HHM comp

[wispy latch]

Season 3 the finals server lol

[misty swift]

IT IS SO FUCKING SURPRISING THAT THEY STILL HAVEN'T ROLLED OUT THE NERFS NEEDED, WHAT A GAY DEV TEAM

[golden siren]

bring back cashout rank.

[cosmic sedge]

MAKE RANKED GREAT AGAIN 😭

[acoustic gust]

Exactly, I hope the player count fkn tanks

[full dragon]

LH1 is honestly very strong right now. It outdpses so many weapons with good aim, which is not hard now that the recoil is less.

[dense timber]

One Change to Each Class

1. Light - Better and Longer Lasting Mark
   Looking at some of the weapons and gadgets that the Light has, to help out the team more give them a better more defined mark that lasts around 5 to 6 seconds, one that doesnt stay in the current location you point at why marking targets. It could truly help Light have a more defined role, even when doing there own thing. Lights could be the Intel of the team with there movement options, and a better mark (in a similar style to the sonar, Less Duration) could define them.
2. Medium - Faster Revive Time. Since they are the only one with any support gadgets, Healing Beam and Defib, it would be nice to at least get 20% reduction with reviving, if not more healing gadget options (Medkit that heals in an area like throwing down a dome shield, but can be damaged)
3. Heavy - Hold 3 Seconds for a Higher Jump
   This would be a solution instead of using Barricades as a Jumping off Point into a level, that Mediums and Lights can reach. It would need a sound que (similar to the Bow's Ting and Flash, when pulling the bow all the way back.) Would help with the vertically impaired class, only enough to jump up to the next floor. But at the cost of immobility. Or an Adrenaline Surge Gadget for 7 seconds could have the movement between a light and a medium, just for better movement options in clutch situations

Just more support rewards to pop up like Revive on screen with points but with Marking Targets (call it Good Eye) and Taking a lot of Damage and Surviving (call it Bulletproof)

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk

[timid musk]

Considering the regular update pattern so far, we can probably expect the next update around June 20th.
However, this time, it is crucial to make improvements immediately, even if it means breaking the usual cycle.
While I understand that the update content is substantial, the fixes for ranked matches should be prioritized and implemented as soon as possible.
The disappointment that Season 3's ranked matches have caused among players should be taken seriously.
I love "THE FINALS" and want it to be a game that survives. Development team, please, do your best...

[subtle oak]

The LH1 killing a light in 3 body shots doesnt feel quite right. Definitely needs a small nerf.

[warped crane]

#Bringbackcashoutranked

[flint jungle]

I haven't played the final in 2 days. I'm enjoying Summer. Thanks for the last update to the ranking mode while it continues like this I have no intention of returning...

[raven hollow]

#👂┇game-feedback Hi my name is Lee im from in VietNam , sorry if i say something wrong because my english is very bad so let talking about problem i sent you this letter , I am a one Player Medium in game the final , i just a normal player like anyone but i very like play new weapon in your game is dual blade but it's have some problem i hope u can listen:

• M when i play dual blade M don t have any movements skill so it so hard for me when i want play safe like i hit him and run , dont misunderstand me i dont need skill to do that but i hope u can buff M a little speed when M play dual blade it's so good for M.

• i have example like this when i play i see another player M standing before my eyes i follow him but speed both is same he take shotgun he run and i follow him but i can not kill him and he turn around behind and kill me i can not do anything right mouse can not rescue me

• L have many movement skill i known L have low Hp but M can not 1vs1 with L because he run faster than M , L have wepons close combat better than M
• H have many hp i known that is normal but when ss3 update H have hook is so strong he pull me in and kill me with a hammer , fire gun , ... i don't know like every thing can kill me 😭
  So if you see this letter and i hope u can see this letter i hope u can do something can help me like buff a little speed for M when play dual blade not for all wepon M,just like that :3
  Thanks for take time to read this , good have a nice day and game can be futher development =))

[river horizon]

... 52 dmg with lh1 ---- time to kill like 0.3 vs med --- do something..

[mild ruin]

interesting how you can go to twitch open some streamer who first time go to FINALS, starting to play TA, and saying that this mode trash, because every fps game got it....

[obsidian solar]

@autumn island @violet basin @hearty bough thanks for the kind words, i'll keep sharing my feedback, hopefully they will listen eventually because as of now the shield is the worst melee in the game, the blades are just better in every way...

[strong escarp]

• LH1 DID NOT NEED A BUFF. It was already borderline overpowered in Season 2. Now it kills as fast as the M11, making it far and away the most broken gun that this game has ever had. It needs its damage reverted back to 49 (but don't change the fire rate).
• 93R DID NOT NEED A NERF. It was already an unremarkable gun compared to the likes of the M11 and V9S. Even with the range buff, it is STILL unremarkable compared to similar weapons like the XP-54, LH1, and even the Throwing Knives! It has no niche. It's Light's worst weapon. It needs the fire rate nerf to be reverted (but not the range buff) for it to have a CHANCE of being relevant in the meta!
• Bring back Ranked Tournament! None of your dedicated players or content creators enjoy the game mode. It also confuses new players when they come into a game that's about KILLING and DESTROYING everything for CASH, only to be met with an awfully balanced and slower-paced Rainbow Six: Siege.

[pure forum]

The game is so broken.. I'm sorry but what's that? It's just a big fuck up... Nerf buff bullshit.. The game worked before season 3 nearly... But now it's just broken.. It doesn't make fun anymore.. It was a cool game... But I think I have to go to another game.. This is just stupid! The terminal attack ranked is the only good thing because no one is leaving... So... Maybe I will come back for some green things in the shop.. But God damn nearly nothing is green... NOTHING IS GREEN!!!

[golden surge]

FIX TAA COME ON EMBARK
Hear what the community says

[vale raven]

The game is unplayable.. FPS drop are insane.. Good job again Embark 🤦‍♂️

[thorn arrow]

Add more contestants slots and option to save a custom outfit. Thank you.

[flat mason]

turret have been nerfed to the ground 😔 🌧️

[valid night]

plz just roll back lh1 to open beta version it's much balanced than now

[jagged knot]

At this point the game is so boring and tiring to play ... I play it for daily missions and leveling up the BATTLE pass... I haven't even played a single match of TA.... Because VALO is a better option for TA... And we do not need so many weapons in the game. it would help if you started making the current one better rather than introducing the new one. EMARK always says "WE HAVE A VERY LONG TERM PLAN FOR THE FINALS" If it goes like this it won't last till next season. It's Okay to admit that you guys were wrong about TA as rank mode ... everyone makes mistakes. #fixtheRANK

[rustic patrol]

I miss Season 1 for many reasons: 1. the game was a lot more ballanced and the playerbase wasn't 90% light. 2. weapons were a lot more ballanced than it is now, mainly because there were less. Not to mention how much better the Battle pass rewards were.

[somber sleet]

wtf is LH1???? Evry game terminal atack every litte have this weapon. They can kill u from far and short distances. Do embark play they own game

[lavish shard]

Nerf Lh1
Nerf spam TK bow
Nerf Rpg claw
Reduce recoil lewis
Light need survivality not damage buff

[stark venture]

lh1 is what the v9s should be but isn’t. It’s kinda of a redundant weapon tbh

[icy hemlock]

im silver and i found the first in te world😭

[shy swan]

WHAT COMPETITIVE FPS HAS FUCKING PERCENTAGES FOR MOUSE SENSITIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JUST MAKE THIS ONE UPDATE FOR THE LOVE OF GOOOOOOOOOOOOD OMG

• RANKED CASHOUT
• SHOW US IF PEOPLE ARE QUED TOGETHER
• NERF LH1
• ADD BETTER SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTEL SETTINGS (NO COMPETITIVE FPS HAS PERCENTAGE SENSITIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

[lilac coral]

So I started the finals when it first came Out on release not beta when I first played it I loved this game it was so refreshing I remeber when I started I had to play something like 40 games of quick cash to get into ranked I actually went over the required games I forgot about ranked cause I was having fun all the quickness of the maps the random events the competitiveness. Now fast forward to season 3 it doesn’t feel that way any more I think it’s The nerfs you keep doing idk but it feels off this season and speaking of this season they said T/A is coming to ranked am like okay that’s cool T/A and CAsh Out in ranked. no now we just get T/A ranked so you need to play 8 games of T/A to get you rank placement and this has to be one of the worst grinds I had todo in the finals i should have went to work and did a 12 hour shift the game mode is slow paced I nearly fell asleep between games.. the world tour is a good idea but people keep leaving when they die one time I had to play through 5 games with just 2 of us n my last game i had enough and I actually left I get a 2 hour ban for the first time leaving crazy I don’t know if I’ll be here at the end of this season
Thanks for the game embark and thanks for people I met in your discord GGS ❤️

[misty swift]

THEY STILL ARENT ROLLING OUT LH1 NERF HAHAHHAHAHA

[viscid raft]

make the thermal bore actually based on the scope sens and not regular sense

[cold pilot]

• NERF the LH1
  too OP even my grandma can beat your ass ez with use this

nerf dmg to 45

[glacial geyser]

I'm honestly surprised that they haven't hotfixed LH1

[lost seal]

LH1 is actually nuts

[violet elbow]

how to fix the current balancing (in my opinion):

Heavy:

• Revert Lewis to OB Recoil

• Slightly buff M60 range

• Nerf Claw Range to around 10-13m

• Nerf Charge damage from 130 to 74, buff slam damage a bit and knockback slightly

• allow Melee in Mesh again

• Nerf RPG to 50min/120max damage, reduce cooldown from 45s to 40s, slightly nerf aoe damage drop and compensate by increasing destruction damage

• Buff KS23 to 105 damage to allow 2 shot + quick melee on mediums

• increase ALLIED player speed in grav cubes

Medium

• Slightly Buff FCAR Range (.55 to .6 multiplier at range)

• Buff Famas famas range and give it a zoomed scope (.55 at range, 2x scope)

• Buff Dematerializer to 4 uses

• Buff revolver reload speed from 2.2s/2.5s to 2.0s/2.2s, buff range to a .57 scalar at range to allow 6b medium kills and 4b light kills. (42 damage)

• add a small delay to data reshaper so spamming to reshape an RPG does not instantly consume 2 charges.

Light:

• revert TKs damage buff from 63 back to 60 (5 hit against mediums again)

• make TKs and Bow less spamable by either significantly increasing their shot delay or by lowering their velocity

• revert Lh1 damage buff, nerf Lh1 rpm further, keep the recoil change (49 damage, 240 rpm), this gun needed a nerf, not a buff

• fix the XP54 Recoil Bug please.

• Rework Invis: 1s Cloak and Decloak time, unable to shoot guns in invis, fully invisible while standing still and crouch walking, less visible while moving.

• slightly buff V9S range to its open beta version

• allow dagger backstab to be held (for a longer duration at least)

• keep the 93R buff, revert the rpm nerf, give it a red dot sight.

• glitch nades at 5s are fine, however a 7s duration would also not hurt them.

• buff grapple cooldown or nerf cooldown and make it a gadget to allow space for a 3rd light spec that will actually see use.

[velvet spruce]

NERF MF LH1

[sudden summit]

NERF MF LH1

why yall hate the LH1
@lunar thunder

1. recoil and wobble are greatly reduced, making it easier to hit even for the unskilled.
2. Despite the easier difficulty, the damage has actually increased.
3. LH1 is already a strong enough weapon without buffs.

[plush grotto]

Bring back cashout ranked. Yall literally balanced the game around cashout then switched to TA 🙄

[lunar thunder]

why yall hate the LH1

[neat yoke]

cuz its broken lmao, no skill high reward

[crisp bobcat]

QoL improvement - display active player count on each server/mode

[vapid pine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1dhvs2u/the_current_state_of_season_3/

[rough herald]

Nerf heavy (you heard it a million time and here's one more)

note:

• why do a gatgid that have no activation time and little to no skill to use do 140 damage? light vs heavy is like a quick time event that if you didn't react in time you get 140 damage and die or if you're good enough you be lucky to get 80 damage which is still alot seens we have to play perfectly to dodge the rocket
  (also getting 0 damage never happen like ever)

• the tank out damage the damage per second guy, that already dumb enough and i will not insult your intelligence by explaining why thats bad

• boring slow HHM meta:
  doom 300 hp
  shield 750 hp
  barricade 1000~ hp
  heavy himself 350 hp

  Too kill a heavy throw all his defenses you need to do... oh god. 2,400 Damage
  (im not including goo because barely anyone use it, can't say the same for heals)

@hollow flume the new chain isn't the porblem, that heavy kit is. all the chain did is enable heavy kit that work best in close range anyways

@cold pilot bro can just say the number but he made a whole microsolf paint master piece
RESPECT lol (the typo make it 2x better lol)

[hollow flume]

Btw the new chain doesn’t make it easier to kill a heavy

[late parcel]

would be nice if we could save custom outfits

[cold pilot]

nerf everyone dmg takes from headshot to this

[cyan relic]

I beg, please allow me to wear a watch whilst wearing specifically the metal skeleton hands 😂

[cursive latch]

Has the LH1 been nerfed yet?

[naive sierra]

No

[mild ruin]

5L VS 5L in TA wtf

[uneven prism]

WTF IS THIS LOGIV HELLO

[unreal quail]

i actually like really like the terminal attack changes :>

[shy swan]

WHAT COMPETITIVE FPS HAS FUCKING PERCENTAGES FOR MOUSE SENSITIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JUST MAKE THIS ONE UPDATE FOR THE LOVE OF GOOOOOOOOOOOOD OMG

• RANKED CASHOUT
• SHOW US IF PEOPLE ARE QUED TOGETHER
• NERF LH1
• ADD BETTER SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTEL SETTINGS (NO COMPETITIVE FPS HAS PERCENTAGE SENSITIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

[storm inlet]

if they don't nerf the lh1 thursday, i won't understand

[misty swift]

JUST WAIT TILL THE INVESTORS RUN OUT OF MONEY AND THIS GAME IS IN SOME GRAVE LOL

[vapid pine]

BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT

[pulsar jay]

💯

[real rivet]

so the game stuck in loading screen while you are hearing the game working properly, restart the game and reconnect before the 1 min timeout and yet the game canceled and got the 10 min ban. also the reconnect option must be fixed, why the users will get kicked out the game and cant have a recconect to the tournament game after 3 min ??

[quick coyote]

Fix the winch claw seems like an annoying mechanic as a light player being grabbed and not being able to do anything thing. It’s just like a free kill mechanic.

[merry tartan]

DO NOT NERF THE LH1 there is nothing wrong with it!

[crisp bobcat]

hold W key and hip fire. works like a charm. that thing is really disorienting tho hahah

@merry tartan bro you cannot be serious

[tired oasis]

Lol heavy has been completely nerfed on this update, lewis en M60 are s*it.

[solar cairn]

After having some time with dual blades I feel it has 2 primary issues:

1. Deflect does not register correctly most of the time making it extrememly difficult to block. Either the register needs to be corrected or potentially make the block 100% block damage like riot shield to compensate.

2. Allow for animation cancelling on primary attack to block. As it is medium has very little resources to help mitigate the distance between you and the enemy. Forcing the animations to complete while mid fights makes it almost impossible to defend yourself and just feels un fun to play. Allowing for cancelling would at the very least give mediums a chance to survive.

[autumn island]

This and also fix sticky Pyro grenade glitch tysm

[kindred bone]

PLEASE NERF KNIVES

[worldly scaffold]

LH1 needs a buff, make the bullets aoe explosion, can only blast one target at a time right now, so cumbersome... Light needs to be easy to play, so every mode will be Deathmatch, no team play.

[odd ibex]

plz add Kusarigama to lights as it has both chain and blade so can u go for charged attacks for longer range chain blade attack and close range attacks,extremely versatile weapons.

Add chainsaw to heavy class for a short charge forward attack and heavy swing like hammer,imagine the destruction

Add a automatic crossbow(look at the weapon in farcry4)for medium or heavy that sticks to walls and u can climb on it,it give a new range for vertical travel

Add a fast downward lunge attack for dagger while falling and since u go fast downward gravity isn’t floaty that does more damage the higher u fall cause I don’t want to chase people around like a dumb goose and actually ambush people

U can add a laser sight to rpg that’s visible to everyone as a warning and u need to aim down sight to use rpg so no quick spamming rpg out of nowhere.

U should use grapple hook to stick whenever u want no cool-down to horizontal surfaces up on rooms for ambush and vertical too.

Healing dart gadget for lights so I have a reason to follow team mates not not go solo,atleast u have to be accurate and not a auto-aim beam spam

Add single action fanning revolver for light that’s projectile based,it’s accurate long distance and fast fire at close.

Have different game balance built around games modes cause what’s fun in casual is annoying in ranked and power shift like sniper and explosives

[rough herald]

i have no idea why you reply to me but ok

[woeful arch]

Love the Spear when using it (not when fighting against it, lol). Neat weapon design and experience, makes playing Heavy a lot of fun ❤️

[next stream]

BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT

[grand stratus]

.so there is new exploit for lights. one guy just kept leaving and re-joining the a few times. He then just stayed invisible the whole time without showig up once. I spectated him when I was dead and he really was invis the whole time

[ornate flax]

Get rid of ranked altogether and just have World Tour. TA sucks, World Tour is pretty sweet. Multibuck rewards are surperior.

[clever hawk]

The LH1 was already one of the best weapons in the game, it only saw little usage because only the best players could control its wild recoil.

I recommend reverting the damage buff (which affects breakpoints and is thus invaluable) and further reducing the ROF by a decent margin.

As it is, the LH1 deletes enemies of any class at all ranges. The buff to its stability aids it greatly at long range and the buff to its dispersion makes it strong at close and even point blank range.

The usability buffs (stability, dispersion) feel good, so I’d keep them. But the spammability of the gun is way too strong.

Further reducing the ROF should hurt it least at long & medium ranges - its natural areas of prowess - and most at close ranges, where it should not be remotely this strong.

Another avenue to consider would be adding a wilder recoil that kicks in quickly if the weapon is fired at max ROF.

The LH1 also has 15 in the mag, which might be something to lower on top of the aforementioned damage/ROF nerfs.

I have written previously on why Light needs extreme burst damage to be viable and why this is unfun for all parties: #👂┇game-feedback message

[dense marten]

gonna pile up and say bring back ranked cashout, combine it with world tour, 2 ranked ladders is stupid and TA feels awful as ranked ty

[lone zephyr]

Bring back gadget swapping on the sword

emote cancel removal is good but removeing gadget swapping is a step too far as gadget swapping

[zealous bluff]

worldtour is just stacked with lights and LH1s. After the fuck up with taking cashout out of ranked now the worst light meta ever.

[strong sparrow]

Day 6 of asking to revert TA ranked (its a casual gamemode that is NOT suited for competition) and bring back cashout ranked (at least for S4 and onward)

[fervent yew]

pls revert ranked ty

[sharp willow]

nah u guys are the worst dev team out there

[void rapids]

The LH1 needs to be powered down, but personally I think it makes no sense that the light class even has that gun. They already have Sniper as a long range option.

Medium should have LH1 as an option. Without specializations that Light has, LH1 isn’t nearly as busted in the hands of medium while offering them a truly long range option.

The fall off nerfs they made to the current AR trio doesn’t allow those to be considered reliable long range options.

[acoustic gust]

Pin of shame

[unreal fossil]

The best way to balance the LH1 is by cancelling all buffs it received with this update, bringing it back to what it was in S2, a strong weapon with downsides that require skill to compensate. As it should be.

I seriously loved the gun the way it was before, it was very satisfying to use. Now I don't even want to touch it anymore because I don't like to use OP/broken stuff. It almost feels like cheating/exploiting.

[teal bear]

Embark I love you so much will you pleaasssssssseeeeee buff the fuck out of the swords. So fun but so hard to use. It should deflect 100% of damage

[still portal]

Back again for my daily echo that S3 is dead without ranked cashout. Please Embark, listen to the community.

[idle thistle]

I will not play Terminal Cancer add ranked cashout back

[mystic briar]

prophunt

[broken geyser]

Embark Allow heavy players to throw their spears. But not unlimited like the throwing knives. Instead when u throw it once u have to wait for it to come back to ur hand kinda like Thors hammer. It's literally a SPEAR. And having to wait for it to come back even to engage in close range battle prevents it from being overpowered but viable longer distances. Maybe allow players to aim and throw it through by toggling on and off the aiming mode. WE NEED THIS IN THE FINALS.

[lime bridge]

There are times when I am stuck in the Loading screen while I hear the Match is already starting. IDK what to do other than getting AFK kicked and then rejoining. I'm on PS5

[sick forum]

same thing happened to me the other day

[hazy frost]

THE SLEDGE HAMMERS SUCK NOW

[trim pollen]

People hating on TA cause they can’t stay alive for more than 15 seconds 🤡

[brisk crown]

if you reach diamond or ruby you should be able to put the skin on any gun you want. (kinda like how overwatch does it) lets say if I hardly use the lewis gun or the ak then what is the point of me/casuals grinding ranked?

[sudden tangle]

Go play csgo cyka

[quaint egret]

Remove everything but TA

[coarse dew]

DELETE TERMINAL ATTACL

[winter vapor]

The throwing knives should be REMOVED from this game.

You guys have absolutely destroyed any resemblance of balance with the previous update to the extent that a "small nerf" does nothing at all.

Every garbage player swaps to these mid match and completely turns the game around. You can kill a light in 0.25 seconds , a medium in 0.6 seconds, it has range and you can spam that garbage nonstop.

It makes every clown think theyre actually good at fps and completely renders all my practice the past 15 years on fps useless.

Congrats, the game is a joke now and no longer skill based.

Whoever made the decision to buff it needs to go.

[scenic olive]

make it so you can fake defuse you are so vunerable and the guys you are fighting has massive advantage

[thick notch]

Nerf LH1 light class

[north eagle]

umm, I'm not sure why, but every time my character changes any clothing, or when I go into the store, or the battle pass, the street grooves snapping starts playing for a split second. why???

[upper citrus]

Yeah that’s true actually I think the projectile throwing knives that kill slower than the hitscan smgs are very low skill

[bleak prism]

why do they lock the reserve in tournament mode, it isnt like counterpicking weapons was a big problem, just kinda annoying

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[eager cipher]

At least just give us two ranked modes. 1 cash out, one TA. That way everyone is happy

[distant kiln]

ur ranked mode is trash af

[strong sparrow]

honestly i could give tips to improve TA but its just not worth it when you have the perfection that is cashout on the other side

[tepid hazel]

They need to just revert the lh1, and cl40 changes they were both fine

[calm granite]

It's gettin out of hand i got kicked, 6 times, for disallowed tool, even tho there's nothing, literally no synapse no rapid trigger, but everytime I am getting some good kills with throwing knives they kick me💀

[haughty zephyr]

TA is really annoying

[weary iris]

Aumenta o dano da sniper, coloca pra ela derrubar a torreta com 1 ou 2 tiros

[arctic relic]

shouldnt block all bullets like riot shield. got more range and dmg so it needs to be balanced somehow. The weapon itself is good enough. I agree with ur second point tho

[violet elbow]

I mean I agree they are low skill, doesnt mean they are broken, but the spamability of TKs, Bow, LH1 and Sniper has fucking murdered the light skill gap imo.

[real rivet]

toooo muchhhh bugsss in loading screens

[glacial sierra]

they've already said very clearly that this is the plan. stop spamming and read. next season ranked will be back to CO. until then, play the world tour if you love it so much, or vote with your playerbase and go play something else for 80-odd days.

[ocean mason]

To those of you being toxic to the dev team without any constructive feedback- just leave this community. This is obviously not the game for you. You don’t like TA? Fine, then play cashout or quit the game. But review spamming, toxicity, and insults are unwarranted. Do better. I’m disappointed in you all

[fiery terrace]

Fix the loading screen bug in wt pls, its annoying to reconnect every stage

[drifting schooner]

some of the worst takes and ideas in this chat

[prisma harbor]

i go uninstall, i play day 1 but s3 IS TRASH AF

[flat solstice]

There needs to be some sort of role draft for TA. Otherwise meta will be exploited non-stop since TA is such a 2D game (us vs them). Light is meta for TA and that’s all you will see. If you swap the meta in any direction you will see everyone flock to that as well. If you limit the amount of classes per team then this adds way more balance and way more strat. Max 2 of every class. This way every class has to be present in a full team.

[swift laurel]

i think the game needs to get a hotfix to make sure sound icon shows up when people talk before the character selection screen, ive had people that recognize my in game name tell me to coin myself or people saying other inapp things that are very stream unfriendly and its hard to prove it was them if the icon is not there, they are aware they can say things at the start of the game and its hard to prove it was them

[dry wraith]

It seems to me that the progression in the World Cup takes too long.

[ivory vessel]

Heavy not being able to punch when using shield is horrible people just come up to u and start shooting at least before u could keep them away with the punch

[broken plume]

no butterfly knife for dagger? I dont even like dagger but it'd be cool

[opal plover]

Why just 6 loaduts :( Give us at least 9 to match the number of specialisations and have a reason to buy you more skins

[toxic shadow]

least emotionally loaded feedback submission

[ruby tartan]

World Tour in SA... I've been searching for over 29 min.

[upper citrus]

seasons are a bit long

[sleek flame]

The out cry for light nerfs is hilariously ridiculous, when the heavy can two tap a light, and most of you switch to a cl-40 or shotgun (I do this when i play medium) to two-tap a light.

[hazy frost]

it doesn't matter if heavys two shot lights if the lights are untouchable with out hook and with hook you just get sprayed faster

[pastel sage]

two/one shots need to be removed in general, it's not fun to just walk and then not exist for 15+ seconds without being able to do anything.

[meager acorn]

Make Quick Cash the ranked solution to run parallel with TA. This would lead to faster tournaments therefore making queue times a lot less of an issue. It's a good in-between solution since it is very similar to Cashout. Maybe make it 30k cap.

It will also solve those lopsided games where one team is just that more dominant than everyone in the lobby and running up the scoreboard. I know this makes players feel bad so a capped mode is good. I've been on the receiving end of those games and it makes playing through the tournament discouraging because although you can make it to the finals, you have no shot of winning. When a team is that much more dominant than another team, it's less apparent in quick cash. Please consider this if you feel queue times could be a problem with both running as parallel ranked modes. Once again, I love seeing the player base up and I'm trying to be as positive as possible while giving feedback.

Last, this will depend on how the player count is at season's end and your dev team has probably considered it. People love the fast-paced nature of this game. A TDM mixliist would be fun. It can consist of TDM, CTF, KotH, PS

[tender oak]

Me, as a medium player, seeing lights call out that they don't need to be nerfed because heavies are so stronk. 😐

[deft jetty]

is it possible to scroll the ingame text chat line by line or does it just do top page bottom page?

[misty swift]

The game matched me with assholes unranked players for 20+ matches straight which cause me to derank from Gold 4 all the way to Bronze 4

[snow axle]

you might as well remove it with that scuffed up stuff

[silk ivy]

buff heavy

[median lake]

how would you guys feel with in game sponsors to players lets say and xp boost or a hp boost for 1 min , and then they could add fan boosts to the players on a hot streak or top of leaderboard

[scenic spade]

Day 6 of asking the finals to bring back old ranked game and system

[mild ruin]

Every season going on 3 month....
And yeah, its calls SEASON

[mossy otter]

Just tried hopping in a quickcash game, both opponent teams Light stacks, yeah ofc - light is not the meta but the weakest class. pfft

[nocturne pond]

Hello, I'm here to propose a gamemode. It's just an idea like a beginning. I was thinking in a mode where there is a team with something like a vault with a lot of money and they have to defend it from two other teams who are taking it to their base. A kind of capture de flag but with a bigger team at the vault.

[upper saddle]

Embark please add Party Chat for the lobby & Direct messages to friends in the embark client, now that You've added text chat all the friendly people making friends but we can't DM each other and text chat in the lobby. :C

[humble wave]

make the thermal bore dmg players

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
• Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
• Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
• Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
• Remove the fov and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

• Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam

[nocturne sand]

Balancing:

-sonar grenade buff was too strong, there is no counter. Reduce radius a little.

As a Terminal Attack hater, I gotta say it is more fun than I expected as a ranked mode- hated it in casual but I’m enjoying it more than I thought. Cashout still better tho, still think you shouldn’t have taken that out of ranked.

[balmy rock]

LH1 is destroying the fun in ranked games now

[copper sphinx]

I really hope we get access to our reserve in world tour soon.
The way it is now there's basically no way for me to experiment with loadouts in cashout and i constantly feel forced to pick certain weapons and gadgets.
World tour seems like it should feel like the main casual mode to play with its ranks rewarding multibucks, so feeling forced to grind it out with "meta" weapons somewhat drains the potential fun out of it.

[umbral pebble]

I just introduced the game to a friend and playing these 3 Terminal Attack rounds at the beginning was the most painful experience ever. Terminal Attack is nice as an additional mode but it's definitely not the poster boy of The Finals.

[plush sand]

Still new here but any rework of Heavy Melee would be amazing. The range is absolutely ridiculous. I end up getting hammer slammed with a heavy looking the other way.

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-finals-ospuze-pop-pour-perform-gif-11833020654194869751

[lavish shard]

Do something for the TK wake dev

[prime epoch]

Just wanted to say I am so happy with World Tour, and the added time to Cash Out games now that play into the 5/6 vaults consistently.

Season 2 ranked was way harder with such limited time, allowing teams to hold the final vault and often ending games after vault 3/4.

[violet wing]

Hit registration with the flamethrower is completely off since season3 started. As a flamer maniac I can tell. It's now very unreliable. Having a light 4shot you with throwing knives in cqc, vaguely strafing left and right, leaving with almost full health when you doused him extensively all the while is a real bad time. And because it's not the case everytime (sometimes it does work exactly like it used to) I'm thinking something needs to be fixed.

[broken plume]

ranked was kinda annoying because players with less skill could easily get to diamond if they were lucky enough

[lone zephyr]

add text chat to lobby please. (they didnt)

[simple hull]

I agree, i dont want a LH1 change, but if you are Embark, just drop the damage a bit. I think the recoil and accuracy makes sense

[glacial knot]

I find a battle much faster in world tour than in TA . World tour takes 1:50 min until I find a battle, again TA up to 5 minutes. I think cash out ranked is more popular

[river hill]

I thought they did? (Haven't played the finals for a while)

[dry wraith]

lh1 a very balanced weapon. 8k damage with 10 frags

[crisp bobcat]

oh my word PLEASE fix the loading screen issue its happened TWICE already today

[haughty niche]

I love how charge n slam is still in the game . and also give sword gadget swapping

[midnight dock]

An idea I've had and wanted in the game for some time now is to add what season a battle pass cosmetic you got was from. For instance, if I hovered over the Wanderer skin, it would say at the bottom "Unlocked in season 3". It already says this under skins and items you haven't unlocked from the battle pass, but not after you unlock them, so I think that should be kept to be able to remember what season something is from and if you got it from the battle pass or not.

[odd ibex]

plz add Kusarigama to lights as it has both chain and blade so can u go for charged attacks for longer range chain blade attack and close range attacks,extremely versatile weapons.

Add chainsaw to heavy class for a short charge forward attack and heavy swing like hammer,imagine the destruction

Add a automatic crossbow(look at the weapon in farcry4)for medium or heavy that sticks to walls and u can climb on it,it give a new range for vertical travel

Add a fast downward lunge attack for dagger while falling and since u go fast downward gravity isn’t floaty that does more damage the higher u fall cause I don’t want to chase people around like a dumb goose and actually ambush people

U can add a laser sight to rpg that’s visible to everyone as a warning and u need to aim down sight to use rpg so no quick spamming rpg out of nowhere.

U should use grapple hook to stick whenever u want no cool-down to horizontal surfaces up on rooms for ambush and vertical too.

Healing dart gadget for lights so I have a reason to follow team mates not not go solo,atleast u have to be accurate and not a auto-aim beam spam

Add single action fanning revolver for light that’s projectile based,it’s accurate long distance and fast fire at close.

Have different game balance built around games modes cause what’s fun in casual is annoying in ranked and power shift like sniper and explosives

[gentle moss]

ranked servers keep crashing for me ☠️

[hollow breach]

BUFF GRAVITY CUBE RADIUS!!!

[gritty umbra]

so the consensus im coming to is that s3 is a absolute dumpster fire and nobody likes the changes they've made

[shrewd egret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTkrl74W1kw

[tribal rampart]

Please give us more contestent slots, to either save outfits or to have even more builds, I run a lot of variety, especially in casual games but constantly having to change them is annoying. I also keep messing up and not changing it when I needed to, kinda also cause it doesn't save for next round when you change it ingame.

[still portal]

Ranked cash out or bust. I know you guys read these comments and listen to the community. Please don’t drag this on until S4. This is depressing.

[stray thunder]

There seems to be no matchmaking whatsoever in World Tour. As a soloq the experience is so bad that it's no longer any fun to play. Teaming up with randoms who desperately try to learn the game and facing teams that absolutely shreds the entire lobby

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[wispy latch]

🤣 omg this is brilliant! I want season 1 back all these knives wannabe ninja light classes are way to op same with all these melee weapons if I want to play some ninja games I play Sekiro and drop my second platinum trophie lol

[astral thorn]

Embark please don't let this game die

[lavish shard]

How its possible TK not nerf ????? WAKE UP dev

[smoky gust]

sh1900 feels a little too strong imo

i would make it do to heavies what it used to do to mediums, where you need to right up against them to 2 shot them and can otherwise finish them off with a quick melee
maybe a slightly slower rate of fire as well

[astral condor]

Cash out ranked 🙏🏻

[main parrot]

This is so real

[proper chasm]

can stats in ranked terminal attack be persistent so when I crash and re-join all of my RP isn't gone
can we turn off the noise the crowd makes so we can focus on the game

[narrow snow]

24 thousand people

[dawn hazel]

Server has crashed two ranked matches in a row

[simple musk]

You know there's red,blue, yellow and white dye jobs. I'm wondering can there be green dye jobs like neon green

[severe girder]

For the millionth time...spawns! We respawned from a team wipe during Power Shift, when they were within 10 seconds of hitting the finish at 150m away...So then just call the game and don't respawn us at that time. Plus, sometimes you actually make it more worthwhile to team wipe then to actually run to the objective. I teamwiped a team last night, and had to run 220m to get to the cash out, and the team we wiped got there before we did...We might as well have lost the fight to spawn closer. Make up your mind on spawns...

[naive sierra]

What are tou talking about

[lime crane]

wear the alien suit

[flat mason]

stuck on loading screen?! why man, im on my final

[half moat]

On Xbox I can’t quickly play again after a match because instead the button is shared with reporting players. Please fix or I’ll start crying

[ruby trench]

PEAK season, Embark hit the nail on the head. Ranked Terminal attack is the preferred ranked game experience.

Just me, 4 other lights, an LH1, and some sonar grenades. Need to update the report system though. Should be an option to report teammates that grief by not playing light with LH1. I'm sure you're working on an update to make light the only playable class, since that's even more competitive. PEAK!

[rose vortex]

In fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place.

[cosmic minnow]

In fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place. UNITED WE STAND TA HATERS

[rotund jackal]

n fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place. UNITED WE STAND TA HATERS

[mellow lichen]

In fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place. UNITED WE STAND TA HATERS

[mortal ridge]

In fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place. UNITED WE STAND TA HATERS

[solar flame]

Can we get a 5 vs 5 vs 5 TDM game mode? I'd love to use it to warm up

[main knot]

100% agree. I spent a lot of money for a game that change radically and dont feel fun anymore. I really try tò give a chance playing TA, but Is boring, slow and random all the time. I dont want talk of 9 on 10 ppl playing It whit light and same weapon that feel stupid in map like Kyoto because this is player issues. But come on... Map Is good, new gadget Is good, new skin and BP are awesome... All waste by making TA a ranked mode. I really disappointed. Im disappointed to crossplay too, im from console.

[terse slate]

TA and WT literally contain only Lights with LH1/Sniper or Bow... What the hell.

[proud idol]

100% agree

[rotund aurora]

As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place. UNITED WE STAND TA HATERS

[astral thorn]

Embark please don't let this game die

[river plover]

Anyone that leaves during a match should get a 15 min timeout (in casual yes)
Its so goddamn annoying when someone leaves.
Its also extremely annoying when you get filled into a match thats already 90% done

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[gritty umbra]

at this point all we can do is wait for a patch and see if they revert or fix anything. if they dont im probably unfortunately gonna find something else to play until they do. if they ever

[untold cypress]

The community begged for TA to be ranked. Well it is ranked now and cash out is still in the game for you to play. People complaining about TA being slow are full of shit, cash out can be even worse. Quick cash or bank it are the only truly action packed modes. Cash out will be ranked again. I look forward to playing ranked cash out, but i'm having a hard time finding the energy to even be upset about it. I'm just playing the game & enjoying the entertainment provided to me.....for free.

[long dragon]

"the community" did not beg for this to be in ranked. not the VAST majority at least. most people found cashout refreshing and unique to the finals. we all enjoyed that.

[ivory pewter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTkrl74W1kw this !

[pale quest]

embark be like "we want burst weapons to be more for headshots/precise or whatever" and yet lh1 bodyshots kill other lights faster across the map than 93R with headshots from 1cm away 🤡🤡🤡

and almost forgot: REMOVE THROWING KNIVES or make them affected by gravity or something. such a 0 skill inf spam weapon smh

[wispy latch]

The whole match full of light classes F U N

[humble dragon]

Game fall in deep hole “meta classes - meta weapons”. Stupid throwing knives

[quick coyote]

Bring back single-round Cashout.

[ripe herald]

I keep getting the permanent loading screen every once and a while especially with TA and world tour. Not even disconnecting but stuck in game so I have to restart my game to rejoin which sometimes isn’t an option.

[frosty furnace]

gm

[burnt notch]

These fucking copy-paste NPCs don’t even have the brainpower for their own opinions

[thick sorrel]

In fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place.

[drowsy vortex]

In fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place. UNITED WE STAND TA HATERS

[golden rock]

Another new season and I have to ask for the same thing again.

Increase the length a player has to return to the game before they are kicked from it automatically or even remove the auto kick altogether.

Players have the options to leave the game or reconnect already, anyway, so if someone wants to leave the game they will and it is not like they are able to hold the lobby hostage as you can't join a ranked game in play.

The only thing the current system is doing is punishing crashes (which still are more common than people would like), internet disconnects and other similar events where the players tries to get back into the game.

[deft brook]

I have a suggestion for a new light weapon. Akimbo m1911's with 8 rounds in each pistol and due to lack of accuracy they are only good around very close shotgun range

[quick coyote]

real. ive played with people who have 0 idea what theyre doing and constantly run into danger when its obviously not appropriate to do so, and ive also played with people who play like theyve been playing for several years. i wanna play with people who mostly know what their doing with the same kill/death ratio as me so its fair and i can actually learn while i play instead of getting frustrated

[ionic shell]

they need to add a separate lfg channel for world tour

[lament prism]

You can just say lfg wt

[vast obsidian]

Please add s3 new pack to purchase with game currency and remove the damn terminal mode

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[chrome eagle]

In fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place.

[quick coyote]

Hire a new balance team. A bunch of KFC employees would do a better job.

[next stream]

In fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place.

[subtle oak]

LH1 needs to be patched this week. There is no discussion about it

[digital plover]

I have a hot take, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place. UNITED WE STAND TA HATERS

[gritty umbra]

games unrecognizable from beta

[fierce torrent]

and not in a good way

[delicate scarab]

We love your game. Your work is incredible. But please, bring back cash out ranked mod 😦

I don't want to be harsh or anything... But I rather play a CS than a TA... It was develop around the game mod not like The Finals

[sleek flame]

Honestly

The lh1 didn’t need a damage buff just a recoil buff

The swords are brain dead weapons they shouldn’t relect bullets back especially if the damage they take is practically no existent in TTK game like this

The Cl - 40 just needed a damage nerf, having less self inflicted damage just gives brain dead players an excuse to abuse it when they cant aim for shit

Heal beam is still annoying, a fix should be only being able to heal 100hp at a time with a 5s recharge.

All in all the was a bad turn and i hope it is fixed ( probably not), but Ggs

[fallen mauve]

The Finals, what to say more than a new fun addictive game, except that the aim this season took is losing my interest, because TA is bassically just csgo with abilities now. The ranked system for world tour i unique and clever, I just think it was not a wise move to remove normal cashout ranked, and i think i can say this on behalf of almost eveyone, we would like that back^^ isn't it pissible ti have either ta ranked and cashout ranked? Because now we have to play csgo to get finals skins..

[hollow iron]

Is it just me who can't use nvidia shadowplay to get clips half on the time on the finals? It works every other game no problems but the finals its just broken for some reason

[muted otter]

In fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place.

[rotund jackal]

n fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place. UNITED WE STAND TA HATERS

[vast quail]

In fact, As a long-time fan of The Finals, I find the recent update to make Terminal Attack the main gamemode extremely disappointing. This decision is not just a deviation from the game's original vision but a complete betrayal of the community's trust. The Finals stood out in the crowded shooter market with its unique and genuinely interesting Cashout mode, which offered a refreshing alternative to the usual tactical FPS videogames.

By replacing Cashout with Terminal Attack, the developers have essentially turned The Finals into a generic knockoff of more popular games like CS:GO and Valorant. The Finals' gameplay mechanics and design were not built for that format, making Terminal Attack feel awkward and forced. This change strips the game of its originality and reduces it to a mere imitation of its competitors.

Moreover, this move is disrespectful to the dedicated players who invested their time and money into The Finals for its innovative gameplay. It's disheartening to see a game with such potential abandon its unique identity in favor of following industry trends. The community's outcry is not just about resistance to change; it's about preserving what made The Finals special in the first place.

In conclusion, the shift to Terminal Attack is a genuine shame. It undermines the game's strengths and alienates the very players who helped build its initial success. I sincerely hope the developers reconsider this direction and return to the roots that made The Finals a standout title in the first place.

[wind frost]

FUCKING REMOVE TA

[primal nebula]

In light of TA being not the most loved game mode added, I think with the mechanics of The finals would lend itself extremely well to a capture the flag style game mode. It would create an extremely dynamic game to have 3 or 4 teams try and cap the same flag. The point of conflict on the map would constantly be changing, forcing people to be reactionary rather than planning for the map.

[vapid crystal]

Hello my loves, here's a tiny sliver of input from me once again.

🔫 Can we have some more detailed weapon XP? Last season I did the self-challenge of getting each weapon to level 2 (and i almost did it! but work suddenly got seriously in the way) I'd have liked a more coherent/obvious system for it, so we know what we're trying to do.

🏹 The bow and arrow are a really cool addition, but at the same time i'm a bit sad that you'd decided to go for more accuracy weapon for light. How about next season something more wild for light?

⚔️ The dual swords are awesome! Great choice for everything, and the gameplay loop feels great

🥢 The spear feels like a step towards something amazing, but I'm not feeling it yet 100%. might just be me though!

🏗️ I am once again requesting a game mode where destruction is the center point. Maybe a system where each team has to protect 3 buildings (progressively being unlocked from shielded areas) that have to be destroyed either by classical destruction - or by a bomb that's in the building that'll blow the entire thing up! This would be so great for the finals. The bottom 2 floors could be shielded from the outside to annul RPG/thermal bore insane damage, and the bomb would be on the 2nd floor. The floors above would have jump pads to get you to the enemy building quickly! It'd be a mix of offense and defense for both teams... but i'll stop rambling now. It's just something that's been in my head since season 1 🙂

And FINALLY!!!! More please! BIG love ❤️ !!

[storm siren]

give dual katans a slight dash on third swing

[vivid oxide]

i just want textchat in lobby with party, would make things easier when teaming with randoms who play with voice chat off

[icy tangle]

Guys are you guys having fps drops in kyoto?

[odd ibex]

plz add Kusarigama to lights as it has both chain and blade so can u go for charged attacks for longer range chain blade attack and close range attacks,extremely versatile weapons.

Add chainsaw to heavy class for a short charge forward attack and heavy swing like hammer,imagine the destruction

Add a automatic crossbow(look at the weapon in farcry4)for medium or heavy that sticks to walls and u can climb on it,it give a new range for vertical travel

Add a fast downward lunge attack for dagger while falling and since u go fast downward gravity isn’t floaty that does more damage the higher u fall cause I don’t want to chase people around like a dumb goose and actually ambush people

U can add a laser sight to rpg that’s visible to everyone as a warning and u need to aim down sight to use rpg so no quick spamming rpg out of nowhere.

U should use grapple hook to stick whenever u want no cool-down to horizontal surfaces up on rooms for ambush and vertical too.

Healing dart gadget for lights so I have a reason to follow team mates not not go solo,atleast u have to be accurate and not a auto-aim beam spam

Add single action fanning revolver for light that’s projectile based,it’s accurate long distance and fast fire at close.

Have different game balance built around games modes cause what’s fun in casual is annoying in ranked and power shift like sniper and explosives

[next stream]

the rank topic because I had enough of the finals games. It is impossible to do a TA because of the different idea of ​​the game, which distinguished it from most of the games that we know, and we were tired of repeating the same idea. 5v5 . The idea of ​​cashout is one of the most beautiful and enjoyable game plays. In any case, the change idea of ​​the game. It destroys the popularity of the Finals, not because the players trained for more than half a year on a specific playing system and simply changed it to TA, but because a move like this indicates a lack of respect for the players.🙂

[mellow narwhal]

Ight I get that lights were mid towards the end of last season but you don’t need to buff lh1 (already was to strong before this season) throwing knives(just like the revolver shud of been left as a skilled weapons that you can use if you can aim)

[subtle oak]

Nerf LH1 damage.
Maybe faster damage drop off or way more recoil.
It hits way too hard compared to anything else.

[carmine thistle]

Take Thermal & Invis out of Lights kit for 1 week in Ta

Thermal is buggy half the time
& Invis is just such a crutch

[candid flower]

Bring back cashout plz

[midnight dock]

Start counting assists as kills in the Career stats menu or just add an assists tracker, I'm sick of getting my kills stolen and it looking like I have a negative k/d ratio

[rustic patrol]

Alr, giving LH1 a buff was a HUGE mistake! The amount of damage it deals in such a short time, not to mention how easy it is to use for longer ranges as well, is ridiculous! And I may be a HEAVY main, but I just played light, and I got killed in less than 1 second by it.

[terse slate]

Triple LH1 Light Teams should not be allowed...

[prime grove]

I think that the requirement for new players to start by running five rounds of TA really detracts from what makes the finals unique. Power Shift, in my opionion, is a great mode for casual players to learn how the game works and allows for a lot more experimentation.

[lament mango]

half hourly reminder to get rid of terminal illness. bring back ranked cashout/make world tour ranked

[safe pine]

Please allow Battlepasses to be purchasable and earnable for the lifetime of the game with the player choosing which one to focus on earning with their XP (similar to how Halo Infinite and other games allow this).

[dull moth]

Bring back Ranked cashout pls

[still portal]

LH1 meta is so beyond broken. I’m done until that gun is fixed and ranked cash out returns.

[rigid shale]

thermal bore should stick players 🔥

[fervent coral]

All im seeing in here is your fanbase wants cashout ranked back and it makes sense

[stoic cosmos]

How to save TA

• Gadgets should recharge but at a slower rate
• Full HP regen
• Ability to revive manually/defib
• Ability to heal - gun will overheat faster
• Class limit to two
• Best out of 5 rounds

That way, we can bring gadgets recharge, defib, revive, heal, no class overuse, and faster matches back into a more balanced play.

[rough herald]

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ah

[hardy bridge]

Revert lh1 buff or reduce its damage back to 49

[lusty portal]

Terminal attack for ranked was a horrible mistake! LH1 buff was a mistake. Also I still miss the FCAR

[proven ibex]

Except Kyoto This season is a big letdown.. I'm not blaming the experiment but you guys lost your minds in doing so. This season sucks.

[golden surge]

Please Add a simple TDM Mode

[charred ivy]

Love to play into a plat avg. 35k point team with me on the other one at 34k, second 14k and third 8k player, last 2 unranked. Fair matchmaking i must say. 🙂

[olive shell]

Remove terminal dog shite and bring back ranked cashout

[upper citrus]

nerf lh1

[delicate marlin]

Bring back nukes

[bold tiger]

the fcar being good was a plague on the game, good riddance

[peak zephyr]

i really like the finals, but... the game is running on 80-100fps, and when the map is destroying it could drop bellow 60fps and with my 300hz display it feels really bad 😬 im running other games on 200-300 fps stable, but the finals sucks 🥶 anyone have same problem?

[crisp bobcat]

what in the kentucky fried fuck

[fleet adder]

I think they should but let it be maybe like 140 dmg

[dim yarrow]

1. Kyoto map is unoptimized, a lot of fps drops out of no where
2. Remove the f*cking moving platform on this map it's just unpayable
3. A lot of bugs is season 3
4. Why tf I can't change my load out in world tour during the game ? This is one of the stupidest decision I've ever seen

[cerulean mason]

LH1 is ridiculous. It was already a more than decent weapon and you guys decided to buff it this season. Why???? Already had enough firewater and damage, this is absurd. If anything it needed a hip fire nerf to make it less effective spamming hip fire in cqc. But no, you buffed it. What the hell.

[pine flower]

Hard to fathom the resources they put in the map but everything else is so basic. The map required all new assets for everything and is gorgeous- probably the best looking mp map since BF1. But then the weapons are no guns; a bow and two melee weapons. New specializations? Just 1. After six months a tenth “character” was just added. The Terminal Attack changes are just mind-boggling. Impossible to understand the thinking here… It’s not even a good version of S&D. Had they gone with a Rush/Demolition clone it would’ve turned out much better. I’ve been at 6:6 in TA last play of the match and instead of suspense it’s still boring. TA is a complete waste of money and forcing new players to complete 5 matches of that terminal snooze is repellant. Good thing they’ve started marketing /s

[untold cypress]

You guys still want light buffs?😅

[magic topaz]

I got addicted to meth after playing ranked terminal attack now im homeless due to 5 lights running a train on me with LH1s

[sleek flame]

We want heavy nerfs

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[patent wind]

heavy is fine rn just cus light is op rn

[rotund rock]

I agree with the lower visual recoil on LH1 but the damage was good enough the way it was (I don't use third party reticle)

[icy kestrel]

#bringbackrankedcashout

[merry loom]

Un-controversial changes I think we would all enjoy:

Route pinging: I would love the ability to hold the ping button and drag to another point to suggest a course of action for my team, (i.e) holding ping on a cash box and then dragging to the cashout station to let them know what our plan is.

When spectating team mates post mortem I would love the ability to interact. I missing being able to spam *Hype when my last remaining team mate 1v3’s the other team, wins and proceeds to steal their cashout, those moments are precious, and community building, and were fun!

UI tweak: In the beginning of the match the cash boxes icons briefly appear on screen then move out to the edges indicating where they are on the map, this animation is super helpful when playing on large screens where icons on the edge of the screen might be small and harder to notice or obscure each other. I would love to make this a toggleable option so every time a new cashbox becomes available and for cashout stations.

UI tweak: For the love of all things good in this world, when I ADS make the cashout icon transparent so I can see the person stealing at range. There's been a handful of times where I could have stopped a steal but the icon letting me know the steal is happening is obscuring the person I need to shoot.

UI tweak: the portal grenades meter indicator can be obscured by other objective icons which makes it difficult to use in practice. I would love to see a better indicator that behaves more like the thermal vision where the load bar indicates distance from your first portal point.

Stun gun: Getting stunned should drop you from a zipline, bonus points if getting stunned while on a zipline causes the stunned player to scream (similar to heavys charge and slam yell.)

Player statues: being able to distinguish light, medium, and heavy by player statues would be huge! Games have been lost by players reviving a light with defibs when they should have defibrillated the medium or heavy on their team. The quick decision making required under fire is more fun if it's more clear.

Movement: Knowing when to slide onto a jump pad to gain a little extra range was a form of skill expression. Knowing how to mirror's edge style speedrun to the cashbox is part of the core gameplay of cashout, give us this one back.

Movement: A light dashing into a glass window should break the window. Carrying a throwable and running at a window should also break glass windows automatically.

Animations: I would love to see slight tweaks to how heavy, medium, and lights move around in the arena, this would no doubt be additional work but I think slightly different running, mantling, throwing, and jumping animations would give a little more flavor and personality to these classes. I also think their melee should be slightly different. Also, melee should change based on weapon equipped, like why am I elbowing a dude if I’m literally holding a throwing knife? Let mediums pistol whip someone if they are holding the revolver, let mediums smash glass with their assault rifles and let heavies carrying heavy guns front kick people.

Animations: Either in the overall level, or in the unlock progression for weapons I would love to see level progression represented by unlocking more proficient looking animations. Give us a feeling of progression by having our V9S reload look like someones first time at the range until we unlock the red skin for it, at which point that animation looks like someone who competitively shoots and then the later skin with animations where we are are doing one hand chamber checks john wick style. If I have nothing unlocked for the AKM I want the panic of reloading like a Somali pirate under pressure. Note: I’m not proposing changing the reload time, just animations that take place in that time. We already have some of this, but would love more.

[sage oyster]

ranked cashout

[jagged wigeon]

Bring back ranked cashout or we revolt!!!

[mortal ridge]

Nobody wants to play terminal attack to rank up. Nobody wants to deal with five lights running a train on you with LH1s.

Nobody asked you to swap the game mode that the entire game was balanced around for a game mode that is incredibly unbalanced and unfun to play.

Nobody asked you to buff the LH1, nobody asked for any of the radical changes you guys made to this game.

It was perfectly fine in season 2, and you had a good, loyal fanbase that only really talked about how good of a job you guys are doing.

You guys fucked up BAD. Nobody is happy with these changes.

[midnight dock]

The throwing knife nerf did practically nothing and it's still extremely overpowered. It NEEDS a damage nerf and is extremely unfair to play against

[sick forum]

i wish the finals was more transparent in terms of what they buff and nerf, i feel like most arguments would be meaningless if we could actually see w/l or k/d rates for different classes and weapons, as well as overall usage rates

[sacred dew]

playing this game turned me into a femboy

[carmine thistle]

I've seen so many apparently godly Unranked players

[zealous pulsar]

i have not seen that many, and honestly it's more people being good at the game than the weapon being OP

[lament mango]

half hourly reminder to bring back ranked cashout - terminal illness is fine as a casual mode

[sacred inlet]

nerf the LH1 please

[viral quiver]

you have to be honest no one asked for a LH1 buff cuz no one used it lights wepons that are usable are the xp-54 then the pistol after than every other wepons is alright but not really that good knifes are better now especially with the massive buff but i never ran into a LH1 pre this season and i actually used it season one thinking it was the meta and was good this buff seems way better for the meta not as broken as knifes where end of season two if anything nerf damage a lil make its better to shoot with cuz the retical is horrible

[acoustic gust]

Daily reminder to nerf LH1... Or else...

[manic steppe]

Bring Back Cashout Ranked

[quick coyote]

I just hate how slow ta is

[rough herald]

Nerf heavy (you heard it a million time and here's one more)

note:

• why do a gatgid that have no activation time and little to no skill to use do 140 damage? light vs heavy is like a quick time event that if you didn't react in time you get 140 damage and die or if you're good enough you be lucky to get 80 damage which is still alot seens we have to play perfectly to dodge the rocket
  (also getting 0 damage never happen like ever)

• the tank out damage the damage per second guy, that already dumb enough and i will not insult your intelligence by explaining why thats bad

• boring slow HHM meta:
  doom 300 hp
  shield 750 hp
  barricade 1000~ hp
  heavy himself 350 hp

  Too kill a heavy throw all his defenses you need to do... oh god. 2,400 Damage
  (im not including goo because barely anyone use it, can't say the same for heals)

[drifting pawn]

Embark, plz hire Bear McReary to write a track for The Finals. Thanks. I will pay $5 for it

[vapid crystal]

As an addon, some things i forgot!

🤠 can I be so wild to request that the revolver is shot single handedly? It's a game show after all, and there's little more showy than single handed rooty-tooty action! ( and yes, your AMAZING animation team will have to suffer for it.... I' m sorry) In fact, you could add an entire "holding" option for your animations, which would open the door to more store options about animations! (which is really the biggest reason why I popped open the finals in the first place!)

🏯 Kyoto is amazing !!!! I am loving this map so much and can't get enough of it!!! I for one love the fact that you're experimenting with both movement debuffs (the water) and extreme verticality!

Im still enjoying power shift, but i'd also love more pure casual experiences. It'd not be horrible to have a capture the flag game mode or dare I say a TDM just to start the game, get into the flow....

For nerfs and buffs... well, nobody will ever be happy. I understand that you guys are trying your best to get somewhere, but I'd strongly advise you take the ideas you have, and implement them halfway. so you can get a feeling for if people are accepting the change, or of it's a big issue in the large stage. Say you'd want to give the AKM 4 more damage per round, why not first see how 2 works, and if it still feels like it should be higher, take it a notch further. (don't buff the akm lol this is just an example)

🤝 don't forget to love yourselves from time to time, you've made something really amazing, and I can't imagine how shit it must be to be barraged by all this negativity all the time. We love what you've done so far, you've really done your best. You can't always make everyone happy! Just one day, one step at a time.

[quick coyote]

Remove hook from the game

[storm siren]

give dual katana a speed boost on 3rd swing

[spice crescent]

Kyoto is a beautiful map, but... it's just not really that fun to play on. The bamboo forest is a pain to fight through, and the buildings fall apart way too easily. The rubble that's left behind is super annoying. Not to mention the fact that the sightlines for lights using long-range weapons are oppressive.

I don't know how to go about fixing it, but it's definitely my least favorite map to play on in the current selection.

[frail wave]

Born to play Cashout, Forced to play Terminal Attack.
Imagine if Riot Games removed Summoner's Rift Ranked and replaced it with ARAM Ranked
Please try to keep in mind the changes themselves rather than the values and variables. I.E Rather than focus on the ammo count I gave for example, focus on the reload change itself. These values can be changed for further balance.

👇HOW TO FIX TERMINAL ATTACK👇
RANKED TERMINAL ATTACK IS BUGGED, NOBODY WILL REACH RUBY FOR WEEKS
"The system is fucked, when we have to theorycraft how to gain points"
#💾┇terminal-attack-feedback message

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money, there is possibility that this makes it too good to hunt people down instead of playing the objective, because of this you can either go two ways, when a team gets wiped, they drop COINS like bank it., picking up these tokens gives you money **OR ** you only gain 15 % of their money.

The purpose of this addition is to coinside with the next change, i think holding objective may be TOO OP, there may be certain scenarios where holding a cashout makes it impossible for one team to win. Overall this is only an addition if the next change comes in.

• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+ Emerald 2+, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more
• Only One 22k vault should spawn, at this stage of the game, 1st place should be decided

there are no finals anymore
I know you want asian players to play more, but ask yourself... would you play a game that isn't spoken in a language that you understand?
Do you expect players to learn a language, just to play your game? The trailers already had a voiced Korean Announcer, where is he?

make an anime to win people back, the finals is an undercooked game with lots of potential and bad timing. Much like Cyberpunk 2077, what did C77 do ? Made a crazy good anime and THE FINALS has good setup for lore. I don't even like anime, but this would save the game (half joking)

[burnt widget]

Light main I take it?

[onyx ruin]

they fix ranked yet?

[fringe hatch]

Yeah I don’t like the way they turned cash out tournament

[strange eagle]

#bringbackrankedcashout

[spring zodiac]

I think to correct current TA state you should remove the cloak and the sonar nade it gave too much to light.
Also a cool things would be to nerf thz LH1 which completely broke the game. Finally you have to fix the way you heal. I the light heal 66% of their hp and the heavy 33%. You cant do the same things with 100 hp as a light and has a heavy.

[muted patrol]

I agree, and it's a shame. Despite myself, I quite enjoyed Terminal Attack last season, but it's nothing short of a slog this time around. Best of 13, with 20 seconds for the defenders is just boring and way too long.

As for Kyoto, I'm really not feeling it. It's not a bad map by any means, but decidedly mid imo. Although, in fairness, I never liked Las Vegas much but I've warmed to it.

Loving World Tour, and the battle pass has some great stuff in it. Any possibility of having a few season 1 things in the store at some point?

The soundtrack is pretty good, but I do wish that the little motif (the tune that plays when you spawn in to the practice range) would be re-imagined for each season. It's the music I hear in my head when I think 'The Finals'!

[thorn elbow]

REMINDER

• BRING BACK CASHOUT
• REMOVE KYOTO WTF IS THAT MAP SO SHIT

[ruby brook]

embarks being a lil too quiet ab the ranked situation they have patched game breaking bugs in a matter of days the least yall could do is make a statement-deez understandable but the games not gonna last for another season if this isint handled sometime soon

[lofty gate]

Really enjoying the new Kyoto map. I love how the little bamboo paths and underneath the buildings look, especially with raytracing/global illumination. Very fun to play as well, makes fights feel quite dynamic.

[terse lark]

bto they said they working on cashout to make it more competitive so season 4 ranked can actually be really good

@vapid pine ik TA kinda ass but next season gonna be the shit, just wait

[vapid pine]

Watch and read this https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/HMROcw2GfN

[quick coyote]

EMBARK!! quick, you gotta revert the change making people play 5 matches of terminal attack before quick cash. You will lose all the players gotten from twitch rivals and ads.

[sleek flame]

Zero gunplay now great job

[still portal]

I guess we will see if embark really listens to the community or not because I will not play an entire season of ranked terminal attack or with guns like the LH1

[sonic spoke]

I love all these things 😝

[quick coyote]

were the lh1 changes tested like at all?

[manic oak]

can you please for the love of god remove snipers from powershift already. has nothing there to do. there are so many weapons to choose from. no need for snipers. ruins the entire point of the game mode. all focus should be on the platform and fighting over it. not chasing afk camping snipers all game on the other sides of the map all game to get anything done. this is so frustrating. ruins the entire point of the game mode. because all focus is shifted from platform to chasing all game. just remove that one weapon from the mode and it gets 1000 times more enjoyable.

[warm compass]

remove TA from rank add powershift

[clever hawk]

Introducing a hard CC tool like Winch Claw is already highly risky, doing so without totally flattening multiple of the consistent bugs is suicidal.

It hooks players through obstacles and bullshit angles like Roadhog 1.0, which is cancer for those on the receiving end.

It also frequently hooks players to your side and doesn’t register shots aimed directly at them, which is cancer for the user.

[hard bridge]

make it so that world tour has some sort of matchmaking system that throws people of similar skill into matches with each other, also there is a rampant cheating issue on world tour, i've seen entire teams unnaturally snapping their heads around or homing in on targets from 20+ meters away

[urban marsh]

nerf the rpg is not fun when he takes you 50% of your hp... then charge you

[modest rock]

Glitch grenades are bugged, less radius and doesnt go through walls anymore

[ruby trench]

PEAK season!!! 👌💯🤣 - "THE TERMINALS" hit the nail on the head. Ranked Terminal attack is the preferred ranked game experience. Just me, 4 other lights, an LH1, and some sonar grenades. Need to update the report system though. ☝️ 🤓 Should be an option to report teammates that grief by not playing light with LH1. 🤨 😎 I'm sure you're working on an update to nerf heavy and medium since they aren't trash enough yet. ✅ 🙏 Best season by far!!! 🔟⭐

[cosmic ether]

it's called an rpg for a reason...........

[golden surge]

extreme verticality?? kyoto is the flattest map of them all
It has a hill thats it well and the tower

[stray vine]

Please bring back old ranked system

[gusty wagon]

bows are great, thx i love it

[sage oyster]

this game is shite now bring back ranked cashout mode. Tired of terminal bull shit. Took away the core of the game for ranked terminal attack. Stop trying to be like R6. Ur killing it.

[quick coyote]

Heavy main that thinks their class should one shot everyone I take it?

[whole acorn]

so....many....matches............ terminal attack is hell

[rain epoch]

In your attempt to NERF heavy ranged to force them to play the trash new melee weapon/ melee in general, combined with your "Buff" to lights, the game is now unplayable lol.

The entire META is Light with an LH1 and Sonar. I can't tell you a more cancer sound then 3 to 5 light all shooting LH1 while you have like 15 sonar grenades pinging you.

In what world did the LH1 even need a buff? It was already in a decent spot, whos idea was this?

All you see in ranked TA is LH1 light, sonar grenade, and thermal vision, and now thats even splashing over into World Tour. I can't tell you how many triple stack light teams running lh1 I've seen now.

I have zero counterplay on maps like Kyoto where Im just forced to take the beating, and if I try to rat in a building I just have 15 sonars on me.

The game legit feels like if your not running LH1 light, your literally griefing your team.

[feral mirage]

Bring back ranked. I'm sick of having bullshit matchmaking in world tour

[stray pasture]

A I the only one getfing those Unreal Engine crashes So often lately?

[simple hull]

fuck all the crashes

[tired oasis]

Nerf nerf nerf you only have that word in your mouth. be better and that's it

[verbal kayak]

Coming back here to reiterate the hook has to go. No hard CC and displacement in shooters please, better yet the finals.

[manic steppe]

They need to get ranked cashout back immediately so they can keep tuning the balance for it. Terminal Attack isn't going to work anytime soon. All of these people bitching about nerf this nerf that were not evening playing the game how it's meant to be played.

[oak flame]

Option to get rid of Bloom Lines with your cross hair

[neon wasp]

https://youtu.be/vTkrl74W1kw?si=g7OSsOLucvFhQf9L

[burnt widget]

wait until bro figures out he can be more than 18 meters away

[obtuse wedge]

• revert ranked mode back
  people who enjoy TA can play them in world tour or whatever as the game is called THE FINALS not THE TERMINAL
  (dont let the new season die so soon because of this decision, everything else can be waited for improvements, this needs to change right away).
• nerf LH1
  dont even need any persuasion from me unless u devs didnt even play after update
• nerf Throwing knife
  nerf the damage or accuracy or add a "mag" so there's animation reload after 8 knifes. been super op since the buff, no-skill weapon as u can throw them whatever u want, because of the extreme fast fire rate.
  another reason for the nerf is so the bow can actually be use, as currently throwing knife outperforms in any situation compare to bow, while bow actually isnt underpower, its decent and fun, has advantages and weaknesses compare to other weapons.
• buff dual blade
  its so weird to have a melee weapon in a class that has no dash skill/specialization class, same logic as that u dont see H with a hammer using Mesh shield. it will fit and be really good weapon for L, but i dont think u will do that anyway, so buff it good so dual blade players dont look like a dummy.
• nerf/adjust claw
  honestly its bit weird to see claw in this game even tho its in H's hand, do some adjustment maybe, i will rather see the Spear as a throwable weapon or whatever and delete the claw but i dont think u will do that.
• rework c4
  barely see anyone using the c4 as H anymore, make some changes to increase the use rates, and differentiate that with L's c4 (altho i really dont get it why u give c4 to both classes, to me, its either L or H, and just add a new equipment to replace it for the class will be perfect).
• rework the look of Spear
  the blade part on it is so short... does fit for the left-click normal attack animation, but doesnt really look like it should swings like a Black Myth Wukong, extent the blade to 1/3 of the whole length might do the job.

[cerulean mason]

Dual blades are a pathetic addition when every single class in the game is able to just run away from them, and any reasonably intelligent teams will kill you with chip damage even if you deflect. It has no forward mobility when attacking, aside from a pathetic lunge that rarely seems to proc for me.

[untold cypress]

They might as well have taken c4 out of the game one charge with shit damage? I instantly took it out of reserve.

[icy kestrel]

#bringbackrankedcashout

[nocturne ridge]

Forcing your fanbase to play ranked TA, insane 😭 🫥 if you want it to be a ranked option that bad give us the option to choose ranked TA or Cashout, in TA by 4th 5th round im wishing it was over.. 13 rounds is wild.. when TA came out it was cool cause its something casual to play, honestly biggest let down this season

[dawn hazel]

TA SUCKS BALLS 🤦‍♂️ 🪦

[merry knot]

The game's severely unoptimized right now

[thorn elbow]

REMINDER

• BRING BACK MONACO
• BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT
• BRING BACK THE GAME I ONCE LOVED

[wet topaz]

my feedback: remove TA from ranked. Simple

[austere hare]

Nerf lh1 and we should get by this season

[peak stratus]

played like 20 TA's on ranked, people keep disconnecting, all the games I played the game either ended up 3v5 or 4v3, cashout was way more rewarding and entertaining, I don't really feel like touching TA until the end of the season, coming from someone that really enjoyed playing ranked, plat s1, diamond s2

[spare helm]

Currently in top 500 in TA rn and I don’t think I can keep playing this for another 100 days pls bring back cash out I don’t even care if my points get reset

[naive sundial]

being stuck on the load screen , crashing and having missed half the cashout round is not very fun , not fair to me or my tm8, and worse is if they somehow win and I can't reconnect to them because I took too long to come back , or rather , it took the game forever to open up
Getting a matchmaking suspension is also pretty unfair if leaving the match (the crash) is not my fault either
Please , at least if the crash isn't fixable , it'll be very appreciated if the suspension system and the reconnecting system changes :))

[rain eagle]

I'm gonna be honest, what's ruining the game for me rn is the sheer power imbalance for lights, playing against them is genuinely unfun at least and wrath inducing at most.

[frail wave]

Born to play Cashout, Forced to play Terminal Attack.
Imagine if Riot Games removed Summoner's Rift Ranked and replaced it with ARAM Ranked
Please try to keep in mind the changes themselves rather than the values and variables. I.E Rather than focus on the ammo count I gave for example, focus on the reload change itself. These values can be changed for further balance.

👇HOW TO FIX TERMINAL ATTACK👇
RANKED TERMINAL ATTACK IS BUGGED, NOBODY WILL REACH RUBY FOR WEEKS
"The system is fucked, when we have to theorycraft how to gain points"
#💾┇terminal-attack-feedback message

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money, there is possibility that this makes it too good to hunt people down instead of playing the objective, **OR ** you only gain 15 % of their money.

The purpose of this addition is to coinside with the next change, i think holding objective may be TOO OP, there may be certain scenarios where holding a cashout makes it impossible for one team to win. Overall this is only an addition if the next change comes in.

• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+ Emerald 2+, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more
• Only One 22k vault should spawn, at this stage of the game, 1st place should be decided
• Give the RPG 2 charges, but hard nerf it's damage to players and maybe increase it's arena damage. The winch claw was a good step in solidifying the Heavy's Identity. Which is a defend, crowd control, cashout control, arena destruction.

there are no finals anymore
I know you want asian players to play more, but ask yourself... would you play a game that isn't spoken in a language that you understand?
Do you expect players to learn a language, just to play your game? The trailers already had a voiced Korean Announcer, where is he?

make an anime to win people back, the finals is an undercooked game with lots of potential and bad timing. Much like Cyberpunk 2077, what did C77 do ? Made a crazy good anime and THE FINALS has good setup for lore. I don't even like anime, but this would save the game (half joking)

[young smelt]

This is like 98% horrible ideas

[tacit drum]

Embark, while I can understand your decision to put TA as ranked for the season or so... I and many others disagree with it, it can be understood in some capacity

However, the fact that you are forcing new players to play 5 rounds of TA before they can play anything else is completely spitting in the face of the finals and what it stands for. I know if I was given this requirement I would try it out play a few rounds say this isn’t for me and never play the finals ever again. The finals never would’ve gotten all the time money and passion I’ve put into it in such a short time and I have a fear that will be the case for many others.

I agree players should have to play at least 5 rounds of TA before joining ranked but they SHOULD NOT under any circumstance have to play 5 rounds of TA before they play anything!

You stated cashout is the heart of the finals and you don’t want to ever take that away, ect. Ect. Making new players play 5 rounds of TA is a complete contradiction of that. Everyone here wants to see the finals succeed, this change can only kill players rather than gain them.

I hope you understand, it’s very frustrating to think about all the players you could be loosing because of this decision.

[tribal rampart]

Please make it so that the games you lose against cheaters that were banned are reverted. Losing so many RS for a match you can't do anything against... Even if those cheaters get banned you lose points and the team they played with gain points. Kinda also allows cheaters to boost people, make new free accounts and continue to boost...

[proven ibex]

Thanks for Killing CashOut..worldTour is nothing but Casual Pro Max and Matchmaking really sucks. Why I have to play with Noobs who doesn't know how cashout works. And whose idea it is that New players must play TA to unlock other modes instead of Cashout

[hoary crown]

Fax

[tired oasis]

lol what more do you want to nerf? in fact you want to reduce the Heavy to a HP bag without him having any means of pressure. all his gadgets have at least received a nerf and all the weapons too.

[fleet swallow]

they should make it so that if you play against a cheater in ranked, and then they end up getting banned, you should be granted back the elo that you lost/gained in that match against the cheater, it's absurd that I played against a cheater and lost 1,456. They ended up getting banned but I still lost my RS, like why. It was an unfair match.

[carmine thistle]

Limit each class to 2 picks per team in Ranked Terminal Attack
So its never 5L,5M or 5H

Defending is also way too easy
Just turns into ambush the other team central

[rose nacelle]

My suggestion:
OSPUZE® can mascot costume.
It's just a can costume
oz/ml content changes depending on class wearing it.

[feral shell]

TA is no fun to play with only 100HP regen. Too many weapons become one shot kills. 150HP would make it much more viable.

Mines, RPGs and turrets also just don’t have a place in a single life competitive mode.

[acoustic storm]

Please, for the love of god. Revert the LH1. It just ruins every single game atm.
Getting sniped across the map is just not fun.

[hollow breach]

The game is not balanced around Terminal Attack so a lot of things can be abused

[civic wing]

🤫

[red kayak]

dont allow ppl to change char when they disconnected on purpose from world tour =D

[woven rivet]

LOSS MITIGATION WHEN PPL ARE DISCONNECTING FROM GAMES !
It's annoying to loose SO MANY points when your game is 3v5

I would be ok loosing 100 not 1K

[quick coyote]

^^^ THIS i have a 2v5 game because everyone left and the game didnt register it because they left during loading screen

[shadow glacier]

Revert back ranked to cashout, and for god sake NERF the throwing knifes

[jagged cedar]

c4 has never left the cashout meta since ob. Its still one of heavy's best gadgets

[urban marsh]

By the look of it you are a heavy main, yah they got nerf their weapons etc… but still can t say they are not op… thx god they buffed lights… but try playing medium rn… you are chased by light desperate to kill you with lh1 or try fighting a heavy with shilds that now can chain you, rpg you them tap you. I won’t be salty but when you say be better at this game what do you mean? Get killes and lose the game? Most people are upset rn because rank is bad TA is by far not the core gamemode…tour is just full not worth the time, poor performance… unbalanced between classes so yah … i don’t know you play stile or what you like but people will always complain.

[woven hatch]

can we maybe get like a way to change the outlines of enemy teams to like a blue or pink manually? Protanopia gives disadvantage on maps with too much yellow, and the orange outlines and red outlines blend in super well with the foliage as im green red color blind.

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[steep sigil]

the penalties for losing a ranked match that had two or three teammates quit after the first 4 rounds are way too harsh. i shouldn’t receive the same negative RS i would have with a full team. makes this game near impossible to solo queue successfully most of the time.

[weak valley]

You should revert the TA 5 match requirements for new players before Twitch Rivals. Or you’ll probably lose most of your players hopping on for the first time after falling in love with the chaos shown on the streams.
I know you think it might be easier for players to understand but one life does not make it easier for players to learn the mechanics and engine.

[orchid stratus]

hello

[mellow narwhal]

S3 was supposed to be the big season but somehow you’ve managed to make the meta worse than it already was by buffing the lh1 and leaving the knives alone, the new map whilst good looking is poorly optimised (same with the rest of the game ) and you’ve somehow managed to make all the ranked players even more bored of the rank system honestly I’m impressed

[thorn elbow]

RUINING a totally fine and fun game like that should honestly be criminally charged, like wtf is this season

[tired oasis]

Heavy and medium Main. with all the damage nerfs on medium and heavy, they increased the ttk of the game so much. I hate TA, it's not fun, and it's not like The Finals

[pliant atlas]

what he said

[quiet summit]

just wanted to write a message for any devs reading this chat, this game is an absolute hit, you guys at the game studios developing this game are doing an amazing job at what you can do for the community. i havent played a game like this in so long with such a unique concept with amazing physics, awesome looking skins, and actually listening to your playerbase on what they enjoy/dont enjoy. obviously there are things that not everybody will be happy with. But if any sort of embark employee is reading this, thank you for working on this amazing game, i hope this game is here to stay for the future years coming and i will be here for every season of it. Thank you ❤️

[hidden torrent]

Fuck nerf light already I can't play one game of heavy or medium stop coddling these shitters

[topaz summit]

B A S E D. Go embark!

[sage vector]

Agree
But....please, Embark, fix the damn rank mode. Bring back cashout...TA is just boring

[quiet cargo]

fix the crashing and resetting of stats when rejoining

[autumn oracle]

''We felt that the Stun Gun was a little too dominant and led to many slow, inevitable deaths.'' and then you add the winch claw which doesn't even give you a chance to fight or escape💀

[pseudo latch]

Day..... no. not today.

LH1 needs to be addressed, holy shit.

Whoever decided to buff it without fixing its non existent max range needs to get a talking to, preferably right after the LH1 gets nerfed.

[shy smelt]

Please cancel World Tour and ranked cashout matches if someone leaves early in the first round. I am so, so, so, so tired of being put into games where the teammates I am given either do not show up or ragequit instantly after their first death or lost cashout. And please do not penalize me for leaving if I am missing teammates. It's stupid that I get punished over and over again for something that is not my fault and I'm force to play a match that isn't any fun because otherwise I'll get banned. It's always a lose/lose situation, nearly EVERY game this entire season has been like this. It's unbearable.

[quasi burrow]

i use dash knife and i get out of winch by dashing into it

[empty venture]

This claw is ridiculous holy shit. Real fun season we have. Let's take the best class and make them better. Gg

[eternal gale]

once again im complaining about the bug where im stuck in the loading screen, i can hear every sound, move around and shoot my guns but its simply stuck in the loading screen

[glacial plaza]

you so outta touch best class now is Light with all the high DPS weapons they have and movement

[simple hull]

light HAS to be high dps, they have virtually 0 health. Heavy can nearly 1 shot lights and laser mediums with a significantly larger health pool Heavy has been best class and remains best class

[sharp helm]

have been hit with this too.

[tender minnow]

MORE BUCKET HATS

[urban marsh]

Finally we are speaking on the same language…. I play from day one and the game was a hole different them is right now… medium could fought heavy almost on the same page, light was weak but not so bad , invis was easy to spot and duration was ok now you barely can see them…ttk is to cod like… medium is just a blood bag and a free rev… is not the same game it was … rn i don t have so much fun at all… at least on solo…with friends is better cause you laugh of how bad stuff are ..

[vapid pine]

BRING
BACK
RANKED
CASHOUT

[feral mirage]

BRING
BACK
RANKED
CASHOUT

[untold orbit]

i remember when ranked was fun

[cosmic ether]

I remember when heavy was fun

[void blade]

I literally cant play as my charge n slam heavy cause of all the lh1 tards abusing the buff. World tour is full of shit players who leave the game when they cant win cause theyre bad, and TA sucks so bad as a ranked mode. Honestly im glad they didnt market the game like they told us they would, cause the game in its current state is a bad, ugly, embarrassing look for the game and embark as a whole. Stop killing your own game

[rain epoch]

You need to revert the changes to Lewis gun recoil to season 2 recoil. That was already punishing and not easy to master, lower the damage to 23 from 25. 22 is just too low for it, paired with recoil.

Revert all changes to m60 to season 2. It didn't need a nerf, it was already in a good place and wasn't a viable long range weapon because of its damage fall off.

Nerf lh1 into the ground, actually remove it from the game. Only 4 days in and for as much as people complained heavy was "overpowered", you haven't experienced true grief until you have 3 LH1s headshot glitching fron a roof, firing at you with sonar's pingging you're location.

Its so bad I don't even wanna play anymore.

You need to give medium something for Terminal Attack. Having two specializations and zero access to any of its support utility makes it worthless when lh1 light exists. give them single use defib or something.

[shadow steppe]

Anyone else's game crashing after winning tournament rounds?

[lament mango]

half hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout. terminal illness is not where the fun is

[coarse rover]

honest feedback is STOP circling kyoto i keep getting it and getting it in ranked im so tired of that MAP ITS not GOOD I NEED SYS HORIZON

[lavish shard]

Nerf Lh1
Nerf spam TK bow
Nerf Rpg claw
Reduce recoil lewis
Light need survivality not damage buff

[shadow glacier]

Yeah, I loved this game s1... s2 aswell untill the end... s3 is just a mess... terminal attack is fun a couple of games and not even the main game mode but still got ranked main mode... LH1 buffed when it was good already, throwing knifes are busted... TTK is a joke

[daring fossil]

you guys really need to sort out the network interpolation and prediction because its fucking ass. I literally just had a case where I saw a light dash in front of me, so I stepped back and he ended up behind me and body blocked me and killed me while I was looking in the direction I saw him dash in. that and getting killed by snipers a fraction of a second before you see the glint, and dying behind walls is getting really fucking old.

@worldly scaffold yeah as an LH1 main, it feels terrible to use now even though it's much easier to use, and I don't want to use it anymore because it used to actually take skill. It didn't need any changes, but I'll take the damage increase lol

[worldly scaffold]

How is there no hotfix for LH1 already? Just revert it, you don't need to think it over.

[wanton phoenix]

Please add an option to change music etc, I miss the old season's music

[sudden fog]

BRING
BACK
RANKED
CASHOUT

[tired oasis]

Same, i hate this season

[signal basin]

Thanks to your shitty netcode, I just get hook behind a wall ! Perfect !!!!