👂┇game-feedback

[eternal patio]

AGREED

[midnight sable]

Yall really complaining about everything this week huh

[rapid stream]

ITS PEAK!!!!

[vagrant bramble]

To be fair, the cell shading does look cheap and out of place

[hardy bridge]

Irs the fortbite cell shading style

[strong escarp]

So glad to see that monitor crosshairs are dead. Thanks for fixing the misaligned gun sights!

[patent night]

Why is everyone complaining about a skin bruh

[sinful drift]

<@&1012034066876473384> - preview feedback 🙂
1.gameplay
Love the new map its awesome and feels really dynamic with the different routes available

-The bow and arrow feels jarring when pulling the string back.

Recommendation: get rid of the zoom when just pulling the string back with left click. This might make it less jarring.

The heavy pull spec: It feels like the cooldown is a bit low considering the power it has in assassinating targets with close range weapons
2. cosmetics
The anime skin type has issues combining with normal body cosmetics. Unsure what could be done to tweak that to be more versatile but something perhaps to think about.

Cheers

[acoustic storm]

Don't try to be fortnite. I am so glad that the Finals takes itself somewhat serious in its visuals.
Please don't add those cheap cell shaded skins. Please try to stick to one uniform shader style. The Style of the Finals rocks, but not the anime skin....

Pretty please 🥺

[grave ginkgo]

remove shit ass anime skin

[timid kiln]

please give sniper bullets phisics remove hitscan so people dont camp in powershift and buff dmg or fire rate so it becomes harder to use but more rewarding

[quick coyote]

monkey head and anime skins

[stuck forum]

Hope they rework the cell shaded skin. Alita’s appearance would be a good compromise

[gleaming summit]

cashout ranked mode! remove this ass boring TA as ranked mode

[thin fox]

you guys cooked with the anime skin , hope to see more in the future <3

[opaque gate]

When will we get Haptic Feedback and Adaptive Triggers on PS5?

[valid cradle]

anime skin is so embarassing omg why

[violet wing]

@patent night Because some of us enjoy the look of the game and think this is a major break of its integrity.@violet elbow It's a feedback channel we give feedback. Get 'fucking real' yourself.

[violet elbow]

the finals players when the devs add a skin they dont have to use but they mald over it

yall should get fucking real for once, I didnt like some battle pass skins either but im not bitching about it in the feedback channel

[broken geyser]

By the looks of it the chain seems quite good but guns with faster fire rates just melt u as soon as u hook them just cause it takes so long to pull the spear out. Maybe that's something they need to fix.

[long atlas]

Alright Embark we listened to you and we've seen and tried TA PLEASE REVERSE IT

[cursive pewter]

It probably wasn’t their doing and more of nexus doing

[night dune]

It's kinda frustrating that the ranked skins (diamond fcar) is locked in a semi-competitive mode that had various balance changes throughout the season (sa1216 nerfed ... fcar nerfed .. barricade nerfed ... throwing knives buffed(in the last two weeks of the season, Lol)... etc) as well as rampant cheating in the first 2/3 of the season and bugs throughout. The voice chat being bugged for a whole week really killed my momentum/motivation in the middle of the season. Just my two cents. I probably should have grinded harder earlier in the season but I'm gonna finish the season at p3 or p2. rip. (all that said I think this might be part of a larger conversation about unavailable cosmetics [whether they be from previous betas or battle passes or ranked modes) and when they will become available either in the store or otherwise)

[hushed sky]

Heavy Charge Slam Still in game ? U are freaking kidding me

[tame lantern]

Calm down. It's not because we don't want to use it, regardless if we use the skin or not we still have to see other players running around with a completely immersion breaking skins in an otherwise beautifully put together game. The glitched skins from season 2, or the B&W cowboy skin weren't at all realistic either, but they still at least fit with the aesthetic, this just doesn't, and that's clearly annoying to a lot of people who care about the visual experience and feel that this anime skin muddles that.

[shrewd tundra]

Isnt the lore revolved around a vr space? Meaning anyone can look the way they want? So the skins they can make can be whatever they decide for that theme of that season?

[high tartan]

Art is something that is made by humans, please do your research first before bringing up this point as AI steals from actual human artists. And minimizing the workload? Would you still bring up the same point if you were affected by it? No, because you aren't. Your argument just shows a lack of empathy towards other fields of work. Plus, they could've just held an art contest and given the artists credit in-game and some in-game rewards for example, that wouldn't have cost them actual money either.

and to reply to @glacial geyser
I must assume you have trouble identifying AI generated images because otherwise you would recognize what I tried to point out. I can't send any images in here but they are generated.

[rose forge]

[real saffron]

SUITedDevice#5867 hacking in ranked and boosting KEN-O83#1302 JIUG#3661
we have picutre and video evidence

[molten trail]

No damage nerf to rpg and charge holy 🤡

[cold bolt]

aint no way some of yall already giving balancing opinions on new weapons/gadgets with only the preview event

[ivory swallow]

It hurt me that the skins in the pass trailer are not from the pass and are paid separately.....

[rose nacelle]

Damn, that looks terrible lmao

[teal minnow]

Because it's not needed 💀 🙏

[delicate notch]

I would be totally for the art contest thing. And yeah, the animoi skin looks.... awful

[glacial knot]

Please add this skin to the knifes, its ninja weapon it fits in with the season 3

[vagrant bramble]

If we don’t like it we wont use it but we will have to see players using it and you can’t hide the fact it will look out of place

[pure ore]

there are a lot of items in the game that look ugly when paired with some more regualr items. People are just upset at the anime skin cause it's anime. Literally just don't use it.

[long frigate]

I was in the same lobby, sadly we could not vin the 3rd and final round due to this cheaters....

[brave quarry]

Kyoto is just amazing, best map I ever seen in videos games.
Thanks Embark.

[quick coyote]

Oscar said the build is weeks old, the release version might be better

[autumn sedge]

It already is added for s3

[surreal meadow]

#video-player-reports

[lime lichen]

I'm really hoping the release version brings some major heavy nerfs

[small swan]

I don't think it's because of anime, it's more that the cell shading looks out of place in the game

[last tusk]

Buff new weapons before season 3 or people will get uninterested quick

[spiral hemlock]

dang season 3 looks so good you guys need to invent complaints with this anime skin crap? glad to hear it

[next mortar]

Playtest was SUPER fun! But there still feels like a massive void in the game without cashout ranked. Terminal Attack is not a serious or competitive mode. And for those casuals out there, it's a very unengaging and slow mode. The Finals is CHAOS and strategy. Terminal Attack is neither for 75% of the gameplay!

Cashout NEEDS to be put back in Ranked.

Thank you!

(also, please buff Katanas & Bow. No one will use them)

[north frost]

Continue tweaking TA, but put Cashout back in ranked. World Tours leaderboards should be based on elo wins, not cash/time put in. Maybe put TA in world tours instead of ranked

[violet wing]

S3 does look epic, the anime skin is a minor complaint but seems to be from a lot of people. It won't take me out of the game, if it's in, it's in and basta. But on the other hand if it's distasteful for the majority, here and now would be the place and time to voice our suggestion to not put it in. Don't be overly dramatic.

[cobalt arrow]

Will the Deep Pockets Trophy/Achievement ever be lowered? I've been playing The Finals for a long time, got most of my friends Into it as well and don't plan on leaving but im also a Trophy Hunter on Playstation. I have every trophy but Deep Pockets and even though I've been playing for awhile I'm only 38% ($18,871,391) of the way to 50,000,000 cash. Hypothetically if I only play quick cash thats a maximum of 20,000 cash I can earn a match. Thats 2,500 quick cash matches id have to win, each match is roughly 20min as well so thats 50,000 mins. There are 1,440 mins in a day and rounding up its about 38 days of playing the finals. Thats 912hrs id have to play of The Finals to achieve that trophy if I only play quick cash and I win every single match. Just seems like such a steep ask.

[simple burrow]

<@&1012034066876473384> make anime skin cellchade clothes other than that beautiful

[polar hill]

This game needs fsr 3.1 fg and dlss 3.7
I suggest updating the game engine to 5.4 in a future patch, as well as updating all available upscaling solutions to newer versions like DLSS to 3.7.0, XeSS to 1.3, and FSR to 3.1 (when that version gets released in the upcoming few weeks). UE 5.4 brings more optimizations which make the performance better and that should improve the general game experience for people in combination with the updated better upscalers. Also, add DirectStorage api to improve loading, there are times where all players are stuck to a loading screen for the match due to singular users with slower machines, and DiSto can eliminate/lower that.

[hot slate]

should make it where when you joined ranked you can get the og ranked or the terminal ranked. Kinda like with overwatch, it's a few gamemodes that circulate, would also help the player not get bored, probably the smartest thing they could do with ts, you don't need to necessarily choose one or the other.

[sudden spire]

That's a good idea

[storm siren]

Embark please listen to this man

[round nexus]

Ideas to add

• WEATHER on every map (rain, fog, snow, sandstorm)
• NEW EVENTS
  • wobble heads - contestants head is 4x-5x the size
  • dead go boom could come back
  • floor is lava (sea level floor is lava, everything else is burning)
  • hallucinations (figure it out 😄 )

[west nest]

new game mode is not fun to play or watch

[cursive oxide]

I’m just saying, a “FINALS STYLE” TDM wouldn’t hurt 🥸 Dare i ask for PROP HUNT? 😮‍💨 But they don’t hear me tho …..

[thick sand]

nice matchmaking , playing solo ranked 3rd game in a row both teammates dc and i loose rank bc of that

[copper lark]

I get light needed help in s3 but why did you buff the lh1 to 52 dmg and reduce visual recoil? it was already arguably the best light weapon, if anything buff the weaker options on the class but this only further cements the meta we are all finding stale, heavy getting winch claw also making it even stronger. This feels like the wrong direction imo

[hard badger]

yeah would love to see both gamemodes also, not a fan of TA

[hardy bridge]

Light getting buffed was a step in the right direction

[naive sierra]

This isnt teally feedback, but it would be funny to have a 2d png as a skin, that always faces you like in old fps games(cylindrical hitbox)

[pseudo latch]

Day 86 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

NOW WHO TF EXCITED FOR SEASON 3 LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[thick sorrel]

Did I looked right. S3 RPG still 140 DMG? :/

[mellow talon]

I think adding Input Based Matchmaking would be an amazing addition

[timid kiln]

please give sniper bullets phisics remove hitscan so people dont camp in powershift and buff dmg or fire rate so it becomes harder to use but more rewarding

[acoustic storm]

The Problem with the RPG is not its damage, but that it has next to no damage falloff. If the RPG deals 120 damage on a direct hit its fine. It is really easy to dodge. But if you get caught in the edge of the blast radius and still get dealt 110 damage, it is bullshit.

The same goes for getting caught in ones own rpg explosion. Lets say the Rocket explodes 4m away from you. 160 damage to your face, whether you like it or not.

I get that there has to be some consistency to make the weapon not feel random, but it is just frustrating. Both on the dealing and receiving end.

[fading wraith]

I’m guessing Embark or Nexon is hoping that TA ranked will pull more players in on the basis of familiarity (CS, VAL, etc.). While Cash Out can be frenetic and harder to grasp for new players, I genuinely think it plays way better for the style of the game and is also just plainly more fun.

I think they should focus on better teaching/onboarding of Cash Out for new players vs. pivoting to TA ranked. This is not an easy feat though so I could see them trying TA ranked for a season and then switching back once they have some new tutorials, etc. in place.

The solo queue experience is tough too (which im sure offputs new players) so whatever they can do to better pair people up then that’ll help. Even giving the option for keeping a team together (i.e. vote if you want to stay grouped) would surely help.

/$0.02

[cold steeple]

This game is not made to be played like val or cs it’s stupid to make TA the new ranked mode. TA is boring and slow and this game is meant to be fast paced it makes no sense

[warped pendant]

Played a game against SuperSmiley#0717 with no rank, 21 kills, 0 assists, 1 death. Zi#0717 and BattleSniper#6524 played with him, with ranks. My guess is that they were boosting with a cheater in ranked. People like those should be banned on the fly.

if (one person kills > 20 && second person < 2 && third person < 2 && they are in party) for more than one game, suspend immediately and review during working hours. It's so triggering.

[desert beacon]

its even less chaotic as other mods literally

[formal knot]

The game need to remember that we need an option to promote someone in the party to a leader, or adding a friend to favorites list , that way, that allows them to invite their friends, and we find them easier in the friendlist.

[marble dove]

As I said before, I don't mind new ideas but Cashout before this update is simply not fun nor it makes me care to learn it. TA may be slower pace but I can see it being fun when you are in the mood.

[versed cloud]

New map big W

[teal minnow]

Gadget idea for medium: A reset tool ,that resets a selected area of the map (undones demage)

[humble wave]

Come on Embark, light is still weak, u basically buffed heavy with that new specialization, thats definitely mostly against light

[spark shard]

New map requires a new special event: Godzilla! (destroying everything)

[proud flax]

i'd do unspeakable things for a dumb ping (no 'autocorrect', just raycast where i aimed and put a png there)

[dreamy gull]

It takes a minimum of 45 casual games to unlock ranked. “New players” are not in any ranked mode. By the time they unlock ranked, they should already know or have a grasp of wth they’re supposed to do. TA is slow and boring and does not have the unique gameplay. Cashout, what made the finals great in the first place, is the only game mode that sets it apart from other games. TA is soulless and is not fun for people who prefer cashout. Your take doesn’t make sense at all sorry

[rough herald]

`
Low Gravity event Fix Suggestion

**Note: **

• so whats bad about low grav? as a movement player i find low grav very annoying, yeah sure it make hard jump easier and impossible jump now possible but in combat it make jumping a death wish as it make you a very easy target when falling.
  (i have so many clip of me beaming people who use jump pad in low grav)

Suggestion:

• Remove it (boring)
• Do nothing (lame)
• Let me control how fast i fall by pressing the crouch button so jumping is now viable, and it make fight more interesting thx to more option of outplaying enemy gamer (pls?)

[gritty wraith]

anime shader needs to be reworked

to actually be tinted by lights and GI. Just plain diffuse with a darker shade for shadow isn't enough, that's what's jarring people, you're not gonna get full 2d look in UE5 so something in between 2d and pbr/realistic would be better. also probably custom normals to smooth them out, look at guilty gear for example, with defined normals for specific shadow shapes such as a triangle for upper cheek.

Example of better lighting while still being cell shaded with custom normals.

[long atlas]

Please embark we saw the new gamemode and new season bring back ranked cashout

[sacred siren]

make it so that world tour can also get the ranked rewards from TA (diamond lewis, ruby/emerald ak). i want the rewards but im not subjecting myself to the torture of soloqing a gamemode that i despise

[odd ibex]

Lol at this point this ability is better then bs hook and melee combo

[pine quarry]

Please bring back Cashout tournament Ranked, we dont want to play Terminal Attack as Ranked Mode

[honest harness]

I like the low grav events.

[unique wasp]

while we're at it, bring back dead go boom, but put it on a significantly delayed (and telegraphed) fuse and let the player chuck their enemies' statues while it's active

[hard badger]

Yeah please bring back cashout ranked. TA is boring...

[urban marsh]

man s 3 looks fun but again....nerf heavy or rework that class

[crystal garden]

unpopular opinion but I am so happy that TA is now ranked. Only just because im so tired of getting third partied and everyone dog piling on one cashout. Cashout has been a horrible experience and im diamond by now. I never want to play ranked cashout again.

[eternal patio]

oh why embark the goofy-serious scale was so good why did you have to toy with it like this WHO asked for this the goofy ass alien and particle sets where fine don´t play around the GENIUENLY good FPS art style we don´t want another Fortnite

[fading wraith]

Good shout with the 45 casual games! I forgot about that. We're saying the same thing though --- I agree that Cashout is superior and should be the chosen game for ranked. TA is just easier to grasp for new players starting out.

This slow mode is brutal >_<

[next mortar]

Cashout > Terminal Attack

it's not close

if we wanted Search and Destroy, we'd go play Valorant, R6, or CS. The new map is AWESOME but it is not a TA map. It plays awful for TA

[vagrant geode]

I agree, definitely going to miss ranked cash out, I think it’s a mistake, hoping that the player base speaks out enough and they actually listen

[storm siren]

Dead go boom is just bad, the events are cool meaning to keep the players on there toes but jus randomly dying just because of the event is dumb as hell

[iron charm]

Have throwing knives been buffed? Haven't played in a while

[sonic raft]

Couldn't agree with this more. Please do not continue the trend of cheap looking cell shade.

[granite vale]

Yes, they’re thrown faster and have faster projectile speed

[valid prism]

Even if they want to cave and give you what you want, it ain't gonna happen before thursday lmao
You're not gonna like that but it's the truth.

[thick bramble]

Can we please add our reload animations to the new AKM receipt skin?

[warped crest]

I got diamond s1 and beginning of s2 with Throwing knives but now they’re just broken and feel a lot more boring I think the damage now is fine but the speed and accuracy of them need to be nerfed back

[cold bolt]

data reshaper should straight up let you choose what to reshape things into to be worth using at all

imagine having gas/propane/glitch at will, it'd actually be pretty huge

[desert beacon]

• 52 dmg lh1
• bow that can three shot a medium and 4 shot a heavy
• lights are having more faster health regen than heavy and medium

It can be a more BIGGER problem in TA, especially when its the new ranked mode which we will mostly see, the regen limit stops at 100 so that means that ANY LIGHT, ANY can either ONE OR TWO SHOT any player class with their buffed guns, oh yeah light are really weak,

And yet, at least one light in the entire match can get more kills that any other player in the match,

of course they are weak so true dude

Wait didnt the reply appeared? Oh well, i was telling some dude who said that lights are still weak even after the buff why hes wrong.

Light mains are getting so much love now it almost looks like they are that one child who realized that he can abuse his parent's trust to the point where if they ask that they want a fucking tank and they will buy one because they love their child that much

It gets to the point where players LIE to the devs about lights being weak even tho they are still carring most matches, EVEN TA, EVEN cashout

Wtf you lights want this game to become? Arena shooter? Do you know that every arena shooter right now is dead, right?

[solid rock]

am i the only one who thinks that the "battle bonds" skin from next seasons battlepass (tier 26) is very distasteful? it looks a lot like traditionally self inflicted scars. i get that they were trying to be funny, but i think its rather weird and distasteful.

[acoustic storm]

Thats "exactly" what the data reshaper does.
To quote thefinals.wiki:
"Barrels are transformed into other barrels in this order: Goo, flammable, toxic, explosive, powder, then back to goo."

Edit: I don't know about the glitch canisters tho.

[dreamy turret]

please fix the game I have crash at all game + the game is freezing all the time even if my game is on low graphics everywhere

[warped hare]

How i can fix the error TFGE0002 or TFGE0003 ? My game is getting frezze and aldo im getting kicked from the server all the time. And yesterday it was everything fine with the game. Can someone help me please ?

[fallow idol]

yall made heavy super buff in season 3 with the wrench...........

[odd ibex]

Player who had access to s3 say that katana is a worse riot shield,bow is worse sniper and ks shotgun is inferior revolver.
Add an optic to tactical bow instead of traditional bow u have in s3,have a charged katana slash and forward thrust combo.

Make dagger have a downward lunge attack that has more damage the higher u fall start from 100damage cause I am done chasing player like a silly goose and actually ambush.

Add auto crossbow from farcry4 that u can climb on arrows

Add kusarigama from shadow fight 2

[next mortar]

If they add Cashout back into Ranked Season 3 is actually incredibly solid. Just missing that one piece of the puzzle.

I dont think Embark understands

EVERY streamer and creator is pissed about this 1 change. We need our favorite mode back. Without it this game isnt THE FINALS

[violet elbow]

the terminal attack change singlehandedly leaves a sour taste for S3, it straight up doesnt make sense and this 1 change will hurt this game so much

[gritty wraith]

learn how to use the goo gun, make the game fun instead of playing just light or medium and like any other fps.
this aint apex or cod

defending TA with the goo gun has been the most fun ive had, specially stopping people from decrypting by gooing them and not even killing them, just running down the timer because they cant move

[delicate marlin]

Why did i get the weekly “deal 17500 dmg with marksmen rifles or pistols “ 3 times. The 2 worst weapon classes in the game. My brother got deal dmg with shotguns instead. Much better

[storm siren]

Using goo gun doesn’t fix the issue that TA is boring and it’s not The Finals.

Yes Goo Gun is really fun to use won’t disagree with you.

[cold bolt]

no, what I was suggesting is not how it works now.

Data Reshaper is currently not worth using at all because of the fact barrels transform in a set order rather than letting the player choose exactly what to reshape into.

What I would suggest is short press the ability to change props like how it currently works, and long press to bring up a menu or something that lets you choose exactly what you want. This allows people with setup time to long press and get what they want, while not preventing ppl from using it on the fly like getting rid of a turret or barricade quickly. While I doubt it'd make it meta, it would make it much more worth using than now (one of the worst abilities in the game currently, the useage rate speaks for itself).

[placid jolt]

the sledgehammer has a graphical glitch where when you attack you cant see it swing sometimes, can be really disorienting

[brave breach]

can anyone tell me why i cant buy battle pass +20 levels even though im only level 85?

[desert beacon]

Devs will ignore this and listen to their poor weak lights

[winter wing]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxnKrZ9y6h8tVQHhEaPXiit4MdbErEGvjR?si=qePz973s16ZfCszN

[wind kayak]

Dead game

[frail wave]

the maps aren't made for TA (kyoto especially), the new changes weren't good enough to make TA viable, i played for 1 hr today and nobody planted the bomb once, it's a TDM, there are no strategy to terminal attack, just fight, maybe if you added an economy and weapon/gadget buying? the prep phase made the game **SLOWER **and more boring. ~20 seconds and the defenders are doing nothing but waiting for the attackers to come, because there's nothing to do, this isn't r6

embark, you had the entirety of Season 2 to fix cashout and instead you focused on destroying the Light class

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money
• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
• Light regen hp faster
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

[modern aspen]

Please add more guns It gets very boring using the same guns for each role and can you add better rewards for season 3 the rewards are very dry

[stark notch]

Cel shaded skins oh no it's becoming Fortnite

@sudden spire yeah I also see they change the end match screen that shows your team stats to be exactly like apex with player cards now.

I just feel like the cel shaded skins are out of place. I don't want to aim at other people that are different textures lmao

Besides people don't play Fortnite for the cel shaded skins, it won't bring them over lol. If they added a battle Royale mode it would bring them over because it's a similarity of gameplay

[worn hull]

average medium user

[sudden spire]

This is a good thing, we need to attract more players from other games, including Fortnite

[surreal meadow]

SUGGESTIONS:

CLASSES:
Heavy regen slower, medium normal, light faster

RANKED:
Solos only que against solos, trios only que against trios

EVENTS:
Dead go boom does significantly less contestant damage, significantly more destruction
Low grav, hold crouch to descend faster

[void scarab]

i seriously pray for slight higher damage on the dagger with 'normal' attack

[mint lintel]

Dead go boom was removed in season 2? What

[gritty wraith]

anime shader needs to be reworked

to actually be tinted by lights and GI. Just plain diffuse with a darker shade for shadow isn't enough, that's what's jarring people, you're not gonna get full 2d look in UE5 so something in between 2d and pbr/realistic would be better. also probably custom normals to smooth them out, look at guilty gear for example, with defined normals for specific shadow shapes such as a triangle for upper cheek.

Example of better lighting while still being cell shaded with custom normals.

[spark shard]

The physics of this game are not made for that game mode, instead of improving the current mode by finding other ways to make it better... they ranked this mode that makes no sense for the physics of this game.

[desert beacon]

That includes heavy too bro💀 you guys want your class buffed to the point where you dont even need teamwork in the team based shooter game

[violet elbow]

"play a single class in the gamemode not even orginally in the game thats forced upon you to have fun" surely is a take

the terminal attack change will kill this game, world tour straight up is not enough, and even less people will watch this game on twitch if terminal is the ranked mode

just kinda failing the community with this change embark.

[quiet frost]

The option to switch between 1st and 3rd person mode during matches??

[oblique notch]

I reckon more would potentially watch as it’s not as crazy and they can have a fair idea what’s happening + more will play hopefully

[muted ice]

I like the team wipe and the completion awards for cashout, but they did make light viable for the most part this season, the biggest problem is, heavies didn't get adjusted in a way to make non-heavies that viable. I think rather than increased regen for lights, increase lights hp (by about 25), decrease heavies (also by about 25), and lower utility dmg(grenades doing 100, and mines 130ish). Other than that, yeah, they got this season to do what they wanna do with cashout, cause if it's not back in ranked by or before season 4, the games gonna fall off harder than it has, and it'll be hard to make a comeback

[gloomy vortex]

make powershift ranked

[cursive oxide]

That’s better than TA, I’ll tell you that 😮‍💨

[limpid light]

light might become super op in ranked this season, since TA regen is caped at 100 they are only missing out on 50 hp compared to 150 and 250 on medium and Hevey. The added regen is also a big help as they can always run from a fight with faster movement and then hit the other person before they get a chance to regen. I kinda like this tho because it adds some more strategies plus light used to be my main and is probably still my favourite so it'll be nice to be viable

[obtuse wedge]

And after 3mins of watching they will realized that they will rather just play CS for the S&D

[odd ibex]

Listen people we need kusarigama weapon for light and it’s versatile and unique and it can be used as a whip long range and close range blade and many abilities,watch this move set of the weapon https://youtube.com/shorts/pe8GgAxBifA?si=DObeeH0h72yVzBbE

[silver forge]

Removing Cashout and the tournament format as the ranked mode is incredibly bizarre and I find it pretty disappointing that the devs are not highlighting the unique game mode they marketed (and named) this entire game around as the core competitive experience. I really hope the devs reconsider. At least keep both in ranked and let the players decide which mode they want to play rather than making a last minute decision like this.

@bleak coral I read that lmao, I would love to see which "competitive" players they spoke to because pretty much every top player right now is pissed off

[robust nexus]

gravity with the giga chad opinion. agree 1000%

[bleak coral]

"the overwhelming feedback from our competitive players is that they would prefer to play a more traditional FPS ranked mode"

[thorn pond]

Hi everyone, I've been playing the game since beta, I've had a few breaks, and I recently returned after the middle of the second season. I was playing in rating mode (cashout), and I had questions about it. It seems to me that the rating mode should be more dependent on skills and allow you to consolidate the advantage if you play hard.

1. The most important change in Cashout that it needs is the ability to receive money during the capture process (half of the amount in the vault), and upon successful capture, the remaining half of it. This will make the mode less random and allow you to consolidate your advantage. Why should I hold the point now? I'm not getting anything out of it so i can wait and strike in last seconds.

2. The second change is that only the team that captured the vault should see the cashout point. At the same time, moving the vault in the player's hands should be left visible, because chasing is fun, but waiting at a completely mined point with turrets is not. The mode should not encourage passivity, but at the same time it should not be that you lose by dying once (now it happens all the time, like a dying in the end of cashout progress and you can't get back into the game). After the start of cashout, the point should be visible to everyone.
   There is no point in capturing the vault now, because it's better to just wait for your opponents to bring it to you. Minor nuances like if one of the three teammates left the game, why should we lose 30% of the money for a teamwipe? There are only two of us, it's not fair. The respawn timer for two people should also not be the same as for three. Ty for reading

[untold flint]

Buff rpg

[quick coyote]

Nahh

[tall wave]

bruh I just got into a ranked game and im in a team by myself. nice.

[lavish shard]

Meta rn in quikplay its light TK sword
Now dev add
Buff shotgun
Fast regen
Buff lh1
Fun in coming

[sacred siren]

Don't take it out of context. The entire quote is:

"The overwhelming feedback from our competitive players is that they would prefer to play a more traditional FPS ranked mode with an Elo-style rating system"

Emphasis specifically the elo-style related rating system. The entire article discusses how to allow for a more transparent ranking system, not a different game mode.

Link: https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/ranked#:~:text=The overwhelming feedback from our,or rank progress during a

[frigid marlin]

these stupid throwing knives are ruining the fucking game

[violet elbow]

which is a blatant lie, the entire comp scene was against the ta change, as people like netex and derp have clearly stated

[spring rover]

Thanks for the stream today Oscar 👍🏽

[opal pine]

I don't think its that serious and (unless a dev says I'm wrong) its probably a reference to the movie Old Boy

[patent wind]

predicted ty

[mint lintel]

Nope you are lying

[graceful flume]

i would've been suprised if there wasnt a shuriken skin for season three

[umbral pebble]

I love that you are going back to the game show feeling. The World Tour Tournaments fit the theme of the game really good. If we now get a sponsor system for our characters that would be the cherry on the top.

[rigid oxide]

can we have a dub and sub mode for the anime skin?

like japanese callouts with subtitles

edit: bro if you can play the finals blind, I'm already mega impressed

[proven parcel]

He cookin cookin

[near parcel]

how are blind people receiving callouts then 😭

[hoary shore]

not a wound, those are tally marks, since the skin lore that the guy is loner, it could mean that something happened and he was imprisoned

[bleak coral]

bro english? when they say "WITH" it is additive to the rest of the sentence.
players asked for a traditional FPS ranked mode. WHICH ALSO HAS an elo rating system.
exact same meaning excluding the elo rating smh.

the emphasis is MODE not the ELO or they would have structured the sentence differently.

e.g. "The overwhelming feedback from our competitive players is that they would prefer to play a ranked mode that has an Elo-style rating system with more traditional FPS aspects"
^ this would mean that the overwhelming feedback showed that the main point of change would be for an ELO rating system rather than the traditional aspects which would be a side premise.

you could also shorten that sentence to: "The overwhelming feedback from our competitive players is that they would prefer to play a ranked mode that has an Elo-style rating system"
to literally have the same core meaning.

but they didnt write that.

[bitter tangle]

DAY 36 OF ASKING FOR A GRAPHICAL PERFORMANCE MODE!

Both console and PC need this imo to maximize FPS and get rid of those annoying frame drops!

• They can lower down shadow quality which will heavily help out performance especially since it is on unreal engine
• texture quality can be lowered down, works for most games
• tesselation can be lowered or even remove, it takes a massive hit on performance
• clouds and background buildings can be removed, smaller render distance for uneccesary objects

[sudden trail]

is it just me or gas needs adjustments?

• It can go through walls. Not sure but maybe fire too.
• Its visual and hitbox does not match. Sometimes you go through the gas but it does not poison you.

[lavish shard]

My friend M/H good luck for season 3 in quikplay with buff light
No nerf TK
Buff lh1
Buff shotgun
Fast regen
Welcom in 2 tap world

[quiet frost]

More destructive features and physics?

[pseudo breach]

Day 70 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

Please fix the poor hit registration 🥲

[hard magnet]

Add better audio customization

[daring olive]

I shouldn't be penalized and lose RP because my teammates decided to leave before the game even starts.

[cunning merlin]

the battle pass seems lack luster this season why aren't the skins in the trailer in the pass alongside the samurai armour like the cyberpunk dude or the preppy lolita girl only the CHEF really?

[languid valley]

Watching preview for season 3
AK,SCAR & Lewis are all pretty much unusable (They changed recoil on all of them) and the 2HM meta is stronger than ever & TA is the main comp mode
gg

[grave ginkgo]

make it so when you shoot at a wall it actually makes holes

[lament talon]

just lost 5 match win progress for having my teammate and me get kicked from the server start of the game I came back he didnt nice job the finals👍

[ionic rampart]

with the addition of the winch to heavy, it is occurring to me that it would be incredibly funny to have proximity voice chat in this game.

imagine dematerializing a wall so your heavy teammate could snatch someone from the other side, then you close the wall behind them. actual kidnapping strats. i want to be able to hear the abductee scream

[sacred siren]

no, you're taking it completely out of context. the main context of the article isnt "a more traditional fps gamemode", its a "more traditional rating system". in fact, the complete quote for this case is:

The overwhelming feedback from our competitive players is that they would prefer to play a more traditional FPS ranked mode with an Elo-style rating system, **where their visible skill/league rating is an accurate measure of their skill level, but where they may not experience much skill growth or rank progress during a season. **

if you actually read the article, as i've said before, its not about replacing the ranked gamemode with some more traditional, its about allowing for more transparency with a traditional elo system. in fact, the first bolded quote of the article clearly states the main point of discussion:

“For ranked modes to create these ideal matches, we need some way to measure skill.”

so go read the article before you start misquoting things, taking things out of context, and manipulating quotes in a way that satisfies your confirmation bias about the ranked gamemode change. but then again i guess people like you dont really have the mental facilities to read or think critically in the first place.

[violet elbow]

@bleak coral nice absurd blatant lie btw

[rugged temple]

You would be able to hear callouts from other players and get info from them

[glacial knot]

Add 10 min leave ban to casual not like ranked the more leaves the higher the ban time. Just 10 min leave ban So that they can't immediately rejoin another team, which will massively reduce the leaves

[dapper needle]

We need chat blocking function also. like other game. If it is not it's gonna be very stressful..

[eternal wigeon]

With an option to turn off only the proximity chat, just in case the trashtalking gets too frequent

[rustic crystal]

Hopefully you guys and gals give us the ability to buy season 1 cosmetics individually. There’s so many things I’d like to buy but I can’t be its part of a set. @pearl kiln

[rain gust]

https://youtu.be/x_Bue1v19So?si=wtGCJALQ05OJXNf1

So far all the feedback I have for Season 3 and its Early Access. Hope you guys enjoy.

[cold bolt]

No premade teammates in Diamond 2+
respectfully, make friends

[frail wave]

3stacking is only fun vs other 3 stacks, but 3stacking matchmaking is unreliable esp with low player count in high ranks
(this would stop diamonds from being matched with gold players)

[eager vine]

I'm playing on Series S and I don't get any frame drop so I don't get what you mean 🤔

[placid cedar]

Why are there no good xp-54 skins ? They got almost 15 m11 skins but the xp-54 are just terrible

[worn spade]

MnK support on consoles plssss

[bitter tangle]

maybe it was a issue back then. but on PC it still isn’t the best performance wise

[eager vine]

Improve the readability of HUD especially when a vault appear when have to search on the screen where the new vault appeared.. I guess a little animation should help when the vault appears.

Please add ping or latency option on console.

[lean cove]

I feel like the new anime skin for the pass will be cool, but it would be better for that to be the only one as it does fit the Japan theme, but would be lame to have one like that in every single one like Fortnite.

[grave ginkgo]

nerf throwing knives

[untold flint]

Buff throwing knives

[eternal wigeon]

[shrewd egret]

they buffed lh1 💀

[cold bolt]

not gonna read any of that, so you don't have friends?

[violet wing]

IMO the only way it would work was if they made it more of an effect over the body (like the glitchy ones from s2, or the cowboy skins from s1) than a real anime character. This is just way too jarring.

[sage isle]

Absolutely terrible matchmaking in ranked. The skill and ranked disparity is absolutely insane

[frail wave]

insulting a random person you don't know just tells me ur projecting ? do u need a friend ?

[red arch]

Terminal Attack is not it for ranked, even with the “World Tour” mode. Literally most of the community also preferred Cashout over TA in the play test.

[lament talon]

Litterally just had 2 teams cross team red and violet

[mint shoal]

being able to put your stickers on the background portrait would be cool

[bleak coral]

awh thanks for the direct insult, i get how emotional you are from them changing the category of the uncompetitive gamemode they changed the category of and improved upon.
in terms of context they release this statement approximately around the time they took the internal decision to change the main ranked gamemode to terminal attack.
i read the article when it released and again today.

the entire quote: "The overwhelming feedback from our competitive players is that they would prefer to play a more traditional FPS ranked mode with an Elo-style rating system, where their visible skill/league rating is an accurate measure of their skill level, but where they may not experience much skill growth or rank progress during a season. "
STILL HAS THE EXACT SAME FKING MEANING.
even more so the extension of it further solidifies their reasoning to change ranked to TA as " their visible skill/league rating is an accurate measure of their skill level, but where they may not experience much skill growth or rank progress during a season".
TA means that players will be more easily evaluated due to the team vs team and tighter matchmaking requirements - and are far less likely to rise above or below what their true skill is.

its a shame you are such a hypocrite siting "confirmation bias" when i took this opinion without reading ANY other information from someone else.
YOU are the one who fanboys a streamer that cries that the game isnt going in the direction that they, by the almighty, envisioned.

you seem to not understand basic english, or context.
no reason to reply to me as i will easily give another breakdown of everything you said and completely destroy it.

[strong acorn]

all of my circuit challanges reset but i still have the rewards, what happened?

[muted thunder]

IS IT JUST ME OR DO LIGHTS SEEM VERY OVER POWERED NOW?

[viral dew]

me and a friend have the same issue ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[viral quiver]

no they still get one shot

[north snow]

i just got this same issue

[small thorn]

Wow that's what I was going to ask, well I guess I'm not the only one

[median lake]

what happened with the circuits ??

[frail viper]

The circuits seemed to have reset, which im assuming is due to the s3 preview , whats going on?

[cursive warren]

Bruh i need this circuit bug to be fixed, i was almost done with the last challenges

[raw blaze]

My friend was literally 200 damage away from finishing masters

[timber vigil]

Dude I was literally about to finish the final circuit... wth is with this glitch...

[crystal umbra]

Make every new weapon over powered at the beginning of each season

Then gradually buff anything else

[ionic rampart]

ah yes power creep

[slate mauve]

that's exactly my point :)

[dawn perch]

Im finished with all the circuits and it still reset my progress

[meager finch]

uh oh... looks like someone f'd up, circuts are fully reset for me and all my friends...
🔥

[sacred siren]

I don't understand, are you intentionally not reading the article in its entirety or are you just not capable of comprehending text? Nowhere in the article does it ever mention a change of game mode -- only the metric in which players are judged. My original point, which you've seem to have ignored, is that the quote AND the article are discussing the challenges and shortcomings of the player evaluation aspect of the tournament ranked system, not the base game mode itself.

I'm going to ignore the comments you made about TA being more easily evaluated because its not related, but they're completely unfounded - TA is much less skill expressive than Cashout, specifically in that you must rely on your team much more than you would in Cashout. TA completely removes a dimension of player interaction that rewarded situation awareness, decision making, and defensive preparations.

Similarly, you claim that the article was release "around the time they took the internal decision to change the main ranked gamemode", do you work at embark? Are you part of their dev/balance team? TA as a gamemode was originally a LTM, not a permanent gamemode, and theres no evidence to support your clearly false claim.

Finally, I don't complain because I'm "fanboying a streamer that cries in game" -- nowhere do I even give the suggestion that this is the case, I reach my own conclusions - I play ranked, I enjoy cashout, I dont enjoy TA, and therefore I dont like the change. Maybe it's hard to wrap your head around since you cant even properly comprehend the article you cite as your source.

Also, just read the article. I refuse to believe that you haven't evolved enough to have developed basic English comprehension. But maybe thats why you enjoy TA so much.

[woven pecan]

Is anyone else having trouble where you can't access the master circuit challenges?

[dull merlin]

I was 1 cashout away from finishing all my pro circuits and ofc my circuits got reset

[wicked axle]

Known bug about the ospoose challenges not showing up by chance?
or have they not made an announcement yet?

[vapid halo]

Damn I was one contract away from finish all the circuits. I was really looking forward to that AK skin then my game glitched and it’s making me start over from the challenger circuit. It’s saying I didn’t finish the pro and master circuit even tho I did and have the rewards for them too.

[thin shoal]

I was one way from the Mask and 2 away from the AK, while I was CURRENTLY working on them. Idk if the daily contract reset affected it but that’s still a PITA having to come out of a match and all progress is completely gone

[molten trail]

nerf rpg dmg + charge 🤡

[timber hazel]

Maybe next season build more new specialization?
Weapon and gadget is fine. But specialization bring so much more hype and impact to the actual gameplay cause it can effect multiple load-out and give player something new to experiment

working on new specialization is probably the hardest part
But I know dead to right that the game won’t get any more popular unless you can pump out more than 1 specialization per update

😔 🙏

[tiny prism]

All of my challenges reset and have no progress towards them.. I was 1 challenge away from getting the AK skin

[quick coyote]

bro fix this

[cold bolt]

[random hill]

I was 4 😭, very close too

[quick coyote]

This is such an insane bug and will absolutely ruin the game for me to the point I quit if these challenges I was in the middle of finishing are not granted for my account. My EmbarkID is FenixTheSnolx#4547 someone here please be of help, only had a hundred or so damage left to be finished

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856827759179071488/1248788401218523197/attachment.gif

[elder folio]

Real

[tawny forge]

if cashout is removed, it will kill the game. i will be uninstalling unless this is rolled back

[restive owl]

I got a bug Circuits got reset for me

[near parcel]

everyone does

[wintry oyster]

good thing i completed all the challenges lmao

[hasty citrus]

cashout good, terminal attack bad. plz change

[bleak coral]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-license-clown-phantomv3x-v3x-gif-834007702285978431

[empty anvil]

thoughts on throwing knife pandemic

[winter wing]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxnKrZ9y6h8tVQHhEaPXiit4MdbErEGvjR?si=2K67e2ykVVcRyg91

[uncut kite]

LAST SECOND CASHOUTS FEEL SO BAD. I do not understand going first place dominating all the teams and then getting all of the teams fighting us for the win and moving to 3rd palce

[night surge]

LMAO

[rugged temple]

More contestant slots

[chilly olive]

plat 1 trying to hit diamond solo queue and ive had 2 games in a row now with 0 teammates, if this is truly unpreventable could we at least lose less when we are down 1 or 2 teammates?

[slim wing]

Did they address the circuits resetting?

[vagrant geode]

I don’t think I’ve seen anything yet

[signal root]

Add coop emotes so l can dap my boy up in a match

[bold bramble]

was abouta ask if it happened to anyone else to

[gritty wraith]

anime shader needs to be reworked

to actually be tinted by lights and GI. Just plain diffuse with a darker shade for shadow isn't enough, that's what's jarring people, you're not gonna get full 2d look in UE5 so something in between 2d and pbr/realistic would be better. also probably custom normals to smooth them out, look at guilty gear for example, with defined normals for specific shadow shapes such as a triangle for upper cheek.

Example of better lighting while still being cell shaded with custom normals.

[slate mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-is-that-martin-freeman-wtf-gif-7528836

[cursive oxide]

I’m just saying, a “FINALS STYLE” TDM wouldn’t hurt 🥸 Dare i ask for PROP HUNT? 😮‍💨 But they don’t hear me tho …..

[vast quartz]

YO! is anyone else’s game bugging heavy? I had 1 challenges left to do in masters circuit for AKM being the shotgun challenge and it was almost done. Now it’s saying that the pro circuit and masters are locked and have to do 19 contracts to unlock the masters again???

[stark notch]

how hard is it to read a couple of lines? must need emojis and subway surfer gameplay on the side to keep your ADHD attention span

[empty gyro]

This just happened to me. I hope they put a hot fix cause like. Not being able to aquire the stuff bc of a bug would be annoying

[violet wing]

Actually there's a bunch of peeps regularly asking for different modes, prop hunt included. I'm even one of them ! Prop hunt rules and would absolutely slap in the finals, at least as a on-the-side fun mode. They're probably aware of it, time will tell if they implement it one day.

[unreal quail]

world tour is ranked

[steel plank]

same, but i was finna finish the headshot challenge

[foggy ginkgo]

No its not😂 Not even close

[kindred dirge]

Plz fix circuits challenges

[cold bolt]

[spare peak]

Please fix circuit challenges I just finished master challenges and it’s bugged talking about challenger circuit with no new rewards

[honest island]

about the latin american servers is there an error in the ranked queues that doesn't find a match, it's a network error or there are no players ???

[vapid halo]

@true epoch help

[buoyant adder]

dont have players 😦

[vast quartz]

Probably had something to do with them pre launching /play testing season 3 for certain individuals to play & didn’t give them their own servers correctly I guess? idk how any of that works cus I’m not a dev and don’t code… but it seems they might’ve messed up for quite a few of us 😡 😤

Also some good game back specifically for ranked … would’ve been boot TA as its own ranked mode. Also maybe even introduce ranked arena (keeping cash out in heavy rotation, also maybe introducing the finals very own spin on modes like “ODD BALL” from halo or even “king of the hill” where players will have to hold a cash out for a certain amount of time to gain $ while everyone presses them. And for King of hill would be different sections of map you have to try and take and hold as a team, could make for some interesting game play if it rotates every mode to be a different round in the tournament so you never know what to expect type of deal.)

[cursive oxide]

Ppl are act like they removed CashOut/Quick Cash .. i just feel like everyone is overreacting at the moment. World Tour is pretty much Ranked

[potent solar]

Some positive feedback - Thanks for the sacrifice and passion you put in to the game. The art, animations, weapons and destruction are very well done. Great job on getting the funny weapons into the game, I hope they continue. First game I've really loved in a long time so thanks for getting it out there. Last but not least, thank you for the Oscar moments! He's great (as I'm sure you all are) 🔥

[glacial geyser]

People initially overreacted because they dropped the ranked change news without a proper explanation.

As for everyone's reaction now?
I think they have perfectly valid criticism.

World Tour is not ranked (@unreal quail)
It is purely based on time played.
Not to mention that it will occasionally have fixed loadouts...
Nothing says "competitive" like being forced to use a loadout that you don't want.

Personally, I totally understand Embark's reasoning for the change. They've removed the mode because want as much data as possible during their tests, so they want everyone playing world tour.
However, it is most definitely a casual game mode. I think it would have been more beneficial (and kept the community happier) if they kepy ranked and instead replaced the casual cashout with world tour...

Since there's still a 30min timeout, to reply to @unreal quail :
You gain points for every match.
You don't lose points if you lose a match.
Therefore it is purely based on time played, so it is not ranked.
It's basically a second battlepass, but instead of levels you have bronze/silver/gold

[obsidian locust]

My circuit challenges rested and I wanna finish’s them pls fix asap

[cold pilot]

to Embark
if you keep messing up with ranked, why you just remove it from game?
make another good game mod for us
everyone is happy

[unreal quail]

you get points and then rank up a leaderboard and more points for getting farther

[foggy ginkgo]

But no deranks its completely time based. Thats not ranked

[wintry oyster]

I feel like when I rank up in platinum, my teammates get worse

[versed cloud]

Nerf throwing knives just slightly please

[sharp kraken]

Thats because all the people who were trash finally got to platnum around this time, goes to show even if your dogshit youll still rank up if you play long enough, but those of us with a life are pretty much stuck with these losing idiots

[timid leaf]

Circuits reset. Still have all my unlocked items. Was a few contracts from completion. Is there a fix?

[distant tangle]

Game is great

[digital herald]

still think we shouldn’t get penalized in ranked just because someone leaves and it’s only 1 or 2 people left on the team it’s unfair and always happens in ranked

[fierce elk]

i hope embark reworks the ending screen. A bunch of squares with statistics in a blad color background is boring, we need more progress bars, figures, DOPAMINE

[hoary shore]

Pick heavy remove a wall, become a wall

[flat shale]

@pearl kiln hello I think I DM you for some important feedback thank you for supporting the community hopefully you see this

[cold bolt]

ngl I'm #1 cashout glazer compared to TA but this mode just falls apart if even one team isn't taking it seriously and just TDM's or genuinely doesn't know what they're doing

[old plank]

i think that if the finals was called something else the game would be more popular 😦 everytime i look up the finals or the finals game on twitter i just get a bunch of NBA clips its so sad

[hazy sun]

same mine was 99% finished and now i cant access it

[hot solstice]

First I love the game, but getting put in a team of 2 off the bat in a ranked game is bad it is a huge disadvantage because you can't leave or lose without a penalty and winning doesn't give any extra despite the increased difficulty. On top of that if you are so unlucky to be left alone constantly being teamwiped is rough. Maybe giving incentive to stay (as in more rank credit) and not suspending people who leave the match when matchmaking shorts them a teammate.

[wintry oyster]

Thats really sad. I took a break for a while bc I got to plat 2 mid season and now I come back to grind to diamond and my teammates are god awful like 5/6 games, feels like I'm in gold again fighting for my life going 9 and 1 with 2100 objective score and we are in dead last

[cinder nova]

great game

[shy swan]

balance and fun ideas:

• make aps able to take out 4 projectiles instead of 3
• allow throwables to have armed gadgets on them (all other nuke nerfs were enough. it wouldn't be a nuke anymore just a fun throwable explosive)
• make flashbangs blind hard scoped snipers for long time and have farther range or blind time cuz they suck rn.
• make defibed person have less hp or 1/3 hp so defib less op
• make smoke grenade completely prevent all fire damage within its radius
• larger radius motion sensor
• disable auto mantel setting
• precise mouse settings

[quick coyote]

keep cashout ranked

[undone sparrow]

fix the circuit challenges!

[upper saddle]

Dear Embark, Your recent changes and additions of equipment is favoring a meta even more full of heavies than it already is, A proposed balance change to ensure Heavies aren't too dominate or even more so than they already are is addressing some break points some weapons have against heavies, I don't play light enough to know their pain points however I do play a lot of medium.

Increasing R.357 damage from 74 to 77 will allow the revolver to eliminate a heavy in two head shots and a quick melee which will go a long way to making this weapon more viable in close quarters brawls.

Increasing CL-40 Direct impact damage by 10 with heavies being the easiest to direct impact will shave an entire grenade off of the TTK against them.

Increasing the Riot Shield Damage from 84 to 88 will take an entire swing or quick melee off of the TTK against heavies.

I hope these changes are unannounced and un-noticed within the season 3 patch currently but I do not know and Hope that changes like these will be more common place to ensure other builds will have a place within the ranked meta and casual games alike and the game doesn't become a heavy fiesta.

[timid kiln]

how u gon give a class the most fun mechanics and weapons and make it the worst class of the game just because ur scared the players would only use that

[hushed sky]

Why is CHARGE SLAM STILL IN GAME? THATS THE ONLY SPECIAL WITH INSTANT DAMAGE IMPACT...ITS NOT FAIR Man... get better in the game...RPG AND CHARGE SLAM IS GET OUT OF JAIL CARD ALL THE TIME...U ARE NOT SKILLED...WASNT EVEN A DOUBT IN THE FIRST PLACE....Pathetic

[timid leaf]

you sound weak

[rugged temple]

Agree except for rev buff. That would lead to one shots on lights and would be even worse. A fire rate buff and/or hip fire buff would be much better

[fallow idol]

Add a battle royal game mode???

[clear hemlock]

Some of these changes will only make lights worse. Especially the cl-40 one which either way doesn't need a buff. I do agree that heavies new special may lack skill expression and be OP

[fringe burrow]

throwing knives can easily 2 shot meds now, the rev needs a buff at the minimum for way better hip fire

[hollow valve]

Infinite stamina deflect of dual katana already makes me feel op... Please make it can only deflect a certain amount of damage or for limited time in the DAY ONE PATCH.

(Please HEMA weapon skins since they are objectively better cold weapons irl.)

[crystal umbra]

Terminal Attack ranked:
5 lights = potentially 10 thermal bores.

Imagine with me a crazy world.

5 snipers
10 thermal bores
10 sonar grenades
10 tracking darts
E-Dash or Grapple for majority
Invis for 1 or two.

No cover is safe. No strategy is safe.

[rose nacelle]

Nerf the Lewis I beg of you

[daring olive]

Every game i get a leaver and then my rp goes down for it. please make it so games with leavers in the first few minutes dont cause you to lose rp anyways. (Ranked Points)

[rough stag]

rp? your rping on the finals?

[obsidian locust]

Yea it sucks how I get penalized cause my tm8 left b4 the round even starts

[hot crest]

Please buff the stun gun it's just a gun that makes people slow

[slim vine]

lol

[rugged temple]

the quintuple mesh shields in question

[violet wing]

oooooh that would be cool

[quick thicket]

agree. it's not really a stun gun at this point. goo gun does everything it does but better.

[solar oak]

Circuits reset?

[frail wave]

the maps aren't made for TA (kyoto especially), the new changes weren't good enough to make TA viable, i played for 1 hr today and nobody planted the bomb once, it's a TDM, there are no strategy to terminal attack, just fight, maybe if you added an economy and weapon/gadget buying? the prep phase made the game **SLOWER **and more boring. ~20 seconds and the defenders are doing nothing but waiting for the attackers to come, because there's nothing to do, this isn't r6

embark, you had the entirety of Season 2 to fix cashout and instead you focused on destroying the Light class

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money
• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
  * Light regen hp faster Embark did this one in S3
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+ Emerald 2+, since Embark confirmeed Ruby is Top 500, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

[odd ibex]

Listen people we need kusarigama weapon for light and it’s versatile and unique and it can be used as a whip long range and close range blade and many abilities,watch this move set of the weapon https://youtube.com/shorts/pe8GgAxBifA?si=DObeeH0h72yVzBbE

[mint shoal]

being able to put your stickers on the background portrait would be cool

[hardy bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[quasi pewter]

I'm still not a big fan of being unable to fight when holding the decryption key. Players in cs and valorant already hate picking up the bomb on their back because they'll be blamed if they made a mistake and gave away the bomb. In the finals it's even worse because you can not use weapons while holding it and considering that individual performance counts in ranking up, I would never be the one to hold it, sorry.

[vocal ferry]

anyone elses challenges bugged?

[wintry oyster]

Get to Plat 3. instantly win a tournament with some decent teammates going 24-5. rank up to Plat 2. teammates have no mic, run in and die over and over again and go 1-6 and 0-9 while I’m 9-3 with 2000+ objective score. De-rank back to plat 3. Repeat.

[autumn hazel]

Yeah i just logged back in and it says i havent completed the last two circuits even though i definitely did...?

[trim olive]

i hate getting dc'd

[upper citrus]

all of the circuit challenges reset for everyone. a ton of my friends only had a few challengs left and can no longer get the AKM skin

[crisp hare]

Guys I don’t know if this is a bug but my all my challenges got reseted I mean I still got my things but I don’t know why its reseted tho I hope 🤞🏼 I still get my things in season 3

[rugged ivy]

Thirding this.. I only had to get the 9 piece kill for it

[spice zenith]

fourding for a friend

[versed bridge]

Buff RPG to 350 damage for a week

[autumn sedge]

Nerf rpg

[round lagoon]

Please make steam backgrounds n stuff

[daring fossil]

did anyone elses circuit contracts reset? I still have all the unlocks from completing them, but they reset and are tracking and seemingly giving me xp (that goes nowhere)

@crisp hare me too

[steep echo]

Tf

[obtuse bolt]

mine and my friends did too

[rain gust]

No.

As a FINALS player for well over a year now, I see my road coming to an end. One fatal mistake from a company is all it takes, and I've tested Terminal Attack, "upgraded". I played the full 2 hours of S3 Early Access. I edited my video and uploaded the review on my honest opinion about Season 3 Early Access overall. Before that, it was spending hundreds of hours on the game, attaining Diamond rank every beta and season and reaching Top 200 peak. Leaving feedback since the beginning of Closed Beta 1. Going to an unofficial LAN event for THE FINALS and competing in it. Enjoying both the casual and competitive side of THE FINALS, supporting my content creator (who is also highly likely to quit the game with Terminal Ranked present, two others before them have already quit due to balancing issues). I've been a skin collector for a very long time, gained more confidence in my abilities as an FPS player in THE FINALS and uploaded a lot of videos of my own in terms of the game. Well, all of it just doesn't matter now, because THE FINALS has lost its identity.

I want to play a unique game mode with unique classes, specializations and set of weaponry, with breathtaking maps. Now I can't. I want to grind to Top 500 with the feeling of satisfaction and without a trace of mental health declining, I can't do that either. What you've done is unique for all the wrong reasons, and you've taken away something that we all have fond memories of, going into a ranked game and playing our hardest, savoring in every moment of a unique game mode known as Cashout and winning the entire freaking tournament. All I see right now, is a damn cookie cutter, copycat Counterstrike / Valorant / R6S / Call of Duty clone, not THE FINALS. Not the intensity, fast-paced and unique feel of Cashout that had its small but dedicated community. We're not reaching THE FINALS, we're reaching the damn airport before it's too damn late.

And you didn't even bother to address other main issues like balancing of the classes, instead you proceed to execute this one colossal mistake that is currently bringing THE FINALS' life on the line. If it's not THE FINALS, then it should rather be nothing at all. You take away healing and revives which is important for a medium role, and toss it out the window, leaving mediums without their identity, too, along with the game overall. I've bonded with a few good small communities of THE FINALS as well as personal friends, and they can't believe what just hit them. "Terminal Attack is now the main ranked game mode. We DEFINITELY don't want the uniqueness of Cashout anymore, toss it out the window. Out the window, NOW!"

I am shocked, and I'll remain shocked. Shocked because I've held up since Closed Beta 1 and I thought I was going strong in being loyal to this type of game, just to have it taken away from me. And after all the feedback I've given personally in these channels, it just doesn't matter anymore. You can't get me to believe in potential when it's not been attained from three betas and 6 months since launch.

That's it.

[quick coyote]

Please have a melee only limited time event on Kyoto for the new season. Great way to showcase the new weapons without having to worry about what others are using.

[bleak nexus]

Yo embark, want to actually make this fucking game playable? Take the RPG from Heavy. There is a reason heavy places dominate the highest ranks. double heavy medium is the only viable comp in high diamond, and that is lame as hell to play against. It is the meta, and it is past stale. The heavy doesn't need the RPG whatsoever. The class has so much versatility and strength, even without it. It's one single utility item. If a class is "useless" without it, there is a big issue.

[simple thicket]

@quasi forge Thank you! Sitting here on my PC and wanted to play 4-5 Rounds before Work to complete my last 2 Quests and was wondering what happened 😄 I wanted to restart but now it wont even start

[fervent vortex]

Ima keep it a buck I read almost none of this, however 2 things: 1 most casual players prefer TA so that’s good for player numbers (although I hate the mode) and 2, for all the really good players hoping ti play on embark official events they have been swapped off TA to Cashout/3v3 so it’s not much of a problem

[ornate panther]

Team mate just went 20 and 2 with sword …. That’s a real fucking sword light right there 💀. Not that 2 /15 shit people be trying

[glacial geyser]

According to the #game-announcements, Cashout is supposedly still the main mode, and they have simply removed the ranked so they can test balance changes.

However, they have done a horrendous job at communicating this to the players.
(and I'm not even sure if they have communicated this at all outside of the discord...)

I'd also argue that the decision was not well thought-out.
If they want player numbers to test these changes, they should have introduced world tour as a replacement for casual games, and not ranked games.
And while I'm in favour of adding additional ranked modes, choosing now to make TA ranked has obviously left a sour taste for many players (regardless of Embark's intentions).

[covert needle]

EMBARK "hey, you know what makes total sense? Throwing knives that can kill a heavy faster than the Lewis gun can kill the light. Oh and the light never has to reload."

[rancid cloud]

No reserve swaps during rounds in tournaments is 😪

[rugged temple]

Lewis can kill a light faster than tk can kill heavy. This is just wrong

[knotty gazelle]

24hrs and waiting for a response from blade at support about my account getting temp ban because of anti cheat I guess just wanna be able to play for the new update I didn’t do anything wrong 😥

[molten trail]

i love aim bot turret 🤡

[fickle linden]

With technical issues, please contact support!

-ask

[spiral light]

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Reach our Support Team: Link

Please note you need to log in with your EmbarkID.

[fresh coyote]

If yall disappoint I will be boycotting it seem like yall already disappointed by making it a bunch of knifes but we’ll see

[nocturne fern]

BRING BACK CASHOUT RANKED NOW

[hollow iron]

Yes. Why is it being removed in the first place?

[fickle linden]

Already passed this on to find out what happened

[autumn shale]

removing the most unique part of the game ☹️

[daring fossil]

ty

[finite wagon]

is this the only light adjustment beyond the health regen and cloak?

have mesh shield, charge n slam, and healbeams been adjusted at all?

[jade breach]

adding to this suggestion with another reference (pls Embark, it fits the seasonal theme so well)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9NOsExmITM

[rancid cloud]

They can’t really make adjustments to the game mode to make it better if it’s a ranked mode. By making it an unranked playlist, they are able to improve on it.

Also probably too hard to deliver in the “dream” of playing a game show as a ranked mode.

Embark updates the game once a week, they’re not going to be able to get Cashout where it needs to be once every twelve weeks.

[glacial geyser]

They can still make adjustments to the mode without making those same adjustments to ranked.

[stone hazel]

yes you can? literally every single other game on the planet is able to tweak ranked between seasons this isnt a novel idea that nobody has tried before

[brave reef]

Hi idk if this is just me or intentional but the contract circuts have gone crazy, the first 2 are completely wiped and the second 2 are blocked. Please could you sort it out because I have been working through them and wanted to get the skins before the end of the season

[narrow plover]

Hi Developers! Can you guys take a look at the heavy class and really make sure it’s as balanced as intended? Thank you for all you do.

[full dragon]

Would love to see more shorts (cosmetics) added to the game. 🩳

[quick coyote]

Fr

[fading plover]

The idea I have is basically keyboard and mouse support but you can only use keyboard and mouse when you have cross play enabled.

I also feel like this is an opportunity to bring more console players to the game.

[frail ocean]

yeah, that's kinda strange
just guessing but it might be bug like circuits updated before new released

[quick coyote]

🤡 the ranked mode should be the main mode of the game. Without cashout there is no finals. When they tested the game they were testing cashout. They had literally years to fix it and now in 3 months they will fix it all of the sudden? They probably won’t put cashout ranked make at all if they can’t fix it.

Somebody notice that there is sorta of a delayed hit?
Ive gotten killed after getting cover so many times

[light zenith]

@quick coyote There‘s literally a whole new OTHER type of ranked mode (world tour for the guys who don‘t know) and they‘re fully gonna focus on that. You can‘t just say: Without Cashout no Finals. THERE IS YOUR FUCKING CASHOUT TOURNAMENT JUST WITH ANOTHER TYPE OF RANKED SYSTEM. WHAT DO YOU WANT

[atomic cradle]

cancel a match if a player does not load in. the fact that a long loading screen into a two player team is even possible and it cost me probably 3000 mmr when I'm desperately trying to close out diamond is really disheartening. also fix the medigun glitch it's only been literally months.

[rancid cloud]

This idea is incompatible with Steam Deck, ROG Ally, and other handheld systems.

[gusty musk]

Cash out tournaments are trash now and TA ranked is a bad idea. Sad to see where this game is headed

[vapid mason]

"I find your lack of faith disturbing," In all seriousness, I'm sure embark will make changes and maybe there will be 2 proper ranked modes, Oscar was already hinting at an emerald rank which could be for cashout, no point in throwing tantrums, it will just make your game experience even worse.

[keen comet]

I have to finish master circuit (slide kill quest) but this happened. What do I do?

[zinc carbon]

It happened to everyone your too late to finish it, sorry !!

[hollow iron]

They can easily make adjustments wtf you on about? Unranked cash out has been in the game since the start of season 2. They are just too lazy to balance the cashout third party meta in current ranked, when they have options like health syphon on kill

[nocturne fern]

ADD HEALTH ON KILLS TO HELP WITH 3RD PARTY @finite briar both

[finite briar]

hmmm too lazy or really small dev team? don't slander the team

[hollow cloak]

this is just a long hate text

[mild veldt]

Please, make the revolver feels better to use. It's super clunky and the iron-sight has been terrible since the beta. Players has been pointing it out multiple times through the course of the game. And it's NOT about a buff, or more range or damage, but improvements to make sure it's a fun and nice weapon to use. Atm it feels stressful as hell to land shots since you're battling against your own gun :/

[rain gust]

I don’t hate THE FINALS or Embark. In fact, I love them more than you do because of the things I said, which needed to be said. It’s all tough love, and I hate to see a game I’m passionate about go up in smokes.

[low falcon]

Nerfing sword by removing emote cancel was a good decision, but removing gadget swap was the wrong move. An already weak weapon that’s only good in skilled hands had the skill ceiling lowered to the floor. It’s now slow, clunky, and has basically 0 skill expression. Meanwhile heavy keeps an untuned charge n slam and rpg still does ridiculous damage. I love the game but man is it catering to casuals too much.

[shy swan]

balance and fun ideas:

• make aps able to take out 4 projectiles instead of 3
• allow throwables to have armed gadgets on them (all other nuke nerfs were enough. it wouldn't be a nuke anymore just a fun throwable explosive)
• make flashbangs blind hard scoped snipers for long time and have farther range or blind time cuz they suck rn.
• make defibed person have less hp or 1/3 hp so defib less op
• make smoke grenade completely prevent all fire damage within its radius
• larger radius motion sensor
• disable auto mantel setting
• precise mouse settings
• ALLOW OVERTIME WHEN CONTESTING ON THE POINT AT END OF POWER SHIFT GOAL

[hollow iron]

Surely a small dev team can see there is a massive flaw in the current game design? There has to be something that they can do rather than push it to the side as the main ranked gamemode

[woeful arch]

Was going to grind the final quests of the Career Circuit today, really hope that either the fix will come in quickly or we'll have extra time to complete it. Might not be interested in Season 3 Pass if Season 2 Career Circuit is impossible to complete by Thursday evening. I'm not sure when the official Season 3 reset day and time is? Need to look that up.

[tough sapphire]

Make a specific variation of a map for each map (like sandstorm with vegas).

[uneven mountain]

Having 12k rewards at the end of the battlepass is silly, same for the 6k early pages, I played alot this season and still didnt finish the pass. Just have it 9k for all rewards so the progress is steady

[vapid crystal]

Don't know how you managed not to make it, just cruising through the circuits I managed to finish my BP and last night did pages 9 though 12 on my gf's BP while we might have have played about 60 hours this season. That's 20 hours per month, 5 hours per week lmao. Let me also add that I'm in no way a great player lmoa

[hard magnet]

Please allow you to wear cowboy hats with the L.E.D.emon again like in cb1

[cinder yarrow]

fcar

[quick coyote]

They are saying one thing and it feels like they are doing another. The leaderboard literally is about only money. So it favors people who don’t have jobs instead of squads that might play less but win more overall. Also re read rule 2 and don’t type in all caps at me.

[fervent coral]

Heavies should have the slowest time to get health regen

[nocturne fern]

an actual ranked system monkey... think

[toxic shadow]

world tour will have locked loadouts and maps rotations for up to 2 weeks, tracks total cash earned to determine ranks and only goes from bronze - gold. Sounds like a horrible "ranked" mode

[desert beacon]

they said that they are still thinking about locked loadouts

[rancid cloud]

I’m glad you guys decided to have two ranked modes, even though you’re only really calling one of them “ranked”. Keep cooking!

[rough herald]

dude i love the game so much, just pls stop scaring me with these change bro, since light nerf to now rank change

[young smelt]

The cell shaded skins look dumb in the game. They don’t match the aesthetic at all. Why are you trying to be Fortnite?

[tough sapphire]

Please add a full outfit for every sponsor

[plain shard]

I saw a couple messages about extending time and people complaining about not completing the circuit/battle pass, you had months to do it, and on top of that an insane xp boost at the end, i dont think rewarding people that haven't played all season at the end is the way to go. Because i know a lot of people that were able to finish it, starting half way the season, and finish it before the xp boost happened. I think its very do-able if you play 5 hours avarage a week. I feel like giving xp boost this late is honestly rewarding the wrong people

[spare rapids]

Would be cool to have the option to turn on damage numbers in the practice range.

[dim tangle]

Already getting ready to say it before it’s even out NERF WINCH CLAW

[knotty gazelle]

Nah bro the whole identity of the game

[mystic sundial]

Anyone else's circuits get reset today? only had few contracts left to go and I've logged on today to finish them off only to find only rookie to be complete. (DW just seen its global thing)

[warm crypt]

Same here I was 1 challenge away from finishing them all

[tacit hamlet]

#game-announcements message

[native berry]

now that you added the cel-shaded anime girl skin for season 3, i think you've opened up the possibility of anime collabs lol

Sure you might go down the same route as fortnite, but somehow it just makes sense

[hasty citrus]

Cashout is the IDENTITY of the finals. it's completely out of touch trying to put it aside for a counter strike mode

[tepid spoke]

So gutted.. grinded out the battle pass to level 82 thinking that I could buy the tier skips only to have the +20 level skip not available after I had loaded $$ onto my account 😦

[light zenith]

Sry bro and I mean that serious. I just hate it how everyone complains about it. Let embark give it a try and if no one plays it, they‘ll change it back

[restive quail]

can i get early acces to play the season 3

[autumn shale]

rs

[slate mauve]

depends where the money is. they are incentivizing the mode. it's unfair to expect that no one will play it.

all things equal...they would have better data to justify the idea...but currently, it's not equal.

[prime bane]

Bring power back to the light class, activating the cloak takes up way too much charge and the stun gun needs to be buffed as it was nerfed too hard. I also think weapons like the ks-23 (velocity of the slug, damage at range), 93r (magazine size or damage), and m60 (iron sights too wobbly) need buffs, while weapons like the lewis gun (dmg output too high, recoil too easy) need nerfs.

[quick coyote]

In S2 they said they would market they hardly did now they change ranked mode and actually market so that data wouldn’t at all be fair if they did it that way but they aren’t. The finals should stay the finals not a knock off tac shooter

[quartz shell]

in ranked TA we need separated modes for premade teammates and random teammates just look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-KqAukTbkY

• separated ranks for each one would be good

[junior sigil]

reload animation sets are cool, but why are they for akm, famas and revolver, we have other classes, not just medium

[queen ocean]

How can you even be so mentally declining typing all that just because the Main Mode is "World Tours" now? Its literally the same game mode as cashout. You acting like the mode is completely gone, while it is not.

If you need satisfaction in your life of achieving something, THEN DO THAT IN YOUR REAL LIFE.

You wanna compensate for your lack of achievement in Life.

Get in the gym, workout, make money and then play a VIDEO GAME for FUN.

All these whining babys, wanna have it their way.

There used to be days where you would just play a game for the sake of PLAYING something. Without reaing Patch Notes, without caring what is "meta" or not.

You just played for the sake of playing and then using what you feel good about.

Look at Oscars S3 Stream, which is a prime example.

He has such a good attitude streaming and PLAYING The Finals, while he is not even that good.

He missed alot of Bow shots, died alot, went 0-6 at one point (if I recall correctly) , was the LAST person in TA Rounds while everyone else just died.

Other Streamers like "Ottr" going into the rounds with their Main Weapons "AK" "LH1", while Oscar wanted to show off the new Weapons.

and while all of this was happening he had such a positive and happy attitude, which is unmatched.

Most of you would have been mad, crying, going on Discord writing your hate posts.

And one moment he did a triple kill he was filled up with joy and laughter, this was so beautiful to watch, but you kids nowadays, are so stubborn, underachieved in real life that you do not even reach this stage of relaxed enjoyment.

[dim tangle]

DAMN WINCH CLAW

[hasty pelican]

why devote time to something they dont find unsatisfying?

[wary storm]

the community lead having a postive and happy attitude whilst showcasing their game? like its his job to be like that. No disrepect to Oscar he must of had fun playing the event and showcasing what they have been working on but get a better example lol

[magic frigate]

Hope y'all find peace and purpose in your lives

[last swallow]

PLEASE give us an option to select season menu music themes

i will literally cry if season 2's menu theme will dissapear

[worn vessel]

5v5v5 quick cash when

[desert beacon]

hell naw pls no

[rough herald]

no thx, 3rd party is annoying enough

[hazy vigil]

Big fax

[digital sinew]

Day #2: I hate adding the text chat it's a horrible idea, plz don't add it to your beautiful game, or give us the option to disable it, thx and have a good day 😊

[quartz shell]

in ranked TA we need separated modes for premade teammates and random teammates just look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-KqAukTbkY

• separated ranks for each one would be good

[stray ocean]

i don't know if this is added but pre season 3 feedback: let players disable text chat, and notify teammates if you have text chat disabled just like voice chat

[rotund skiff]

that's a nice idea as well. I don't really want to spend time typing during the game but I often don't use voice because so many people have a mic that's always on and so loud

[fleet trellis]

Here's a feedback FOR YOU, players

The Finals already struggle from the outside, it’s not attractive enough and, frankly, despite the fact that Nexon accepted to spit 250k $ in a one minute trailer at SGF (which was very good because marketing was abysmal until then) we’re being « betrayed » from the inside by a VERY loud minority that refuse any kind of changes and are strongly dedicated to drag the game into the deep.

Season 3 is about to come out, now is not the time for this behavior, we don’t really know yet how it will turns out. Review bombing is not the answer, posting over and over that TA is not your jam isn’t the answer. They will bring back Cash out as ranked season 4, most certainly.

Embark had made it clear that Cash out is STILL their main mode, it just need refining. We should all (well…) agree that the studio is doing it’s best from the beginning and we must not loose faith over triviality.

Let’s just enjoy the game for what is it, as the game loop is unique and getting better week after week with regular balance updates, let’s enjoy it’s identity, let it grow, let them cook.

I do not worry much though, as I know it’s core playerbase are understanding and caring enough to make their favorite game thrills.

So please, stop crying like littles babies and enjoy the game

[hard badger]

Please add tdm, a lot of casual players just want to kill and not playing an objective. I know we have bank it and power shift but its still about an objective.

[fickle linden]

-feedback

[spiral light]

Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

[scarlet berry]

Day 1 - Asking for more precise mouse sensitivity system. Add a decimal point PLZ

[crimson loom]

Game is so bad I’m uninstalling for the rest of the season, hopefully ranked will make sense and weapons will be fixed and they will introduce better SBMM.

[cerulean musk]

Only 1 day left lmao

[bleak coral]

preach

[magic frigate]

+1

[digital sinew]

[wispy dune]

There is too much negativity in this channel so let me say something positive. The Finals is one of my favorite games and I am very appreciative that it is so daring in a market saturated with carbon copied Call of Duty, Overwatch, and Counter Strike clones. The only absolutely horrible thing about this game is the fanbase who are, for the most part, people who either don't understand game design or its process or people that don't know what good games are because all they've played are Call of Duty, Overwatch, or sports games. All of the changes Embark has made has been for the long term of the game and people don't like thinking in the long term because it's a long way away. So, thank you Embark for making a game that I actually enjoy.

[cedar walrus]

Please add that the account is linked to the game and not Steam, it will be very useful and safe

[tawny forge]

Season 1 of the finals was a great game and the devs have done everything in their power to ruin it

The death of cashout will be the death of the finals. Uninstalling

[hollow badger]

Womp womp

[stray ocean]

goodbye! we don't want doomposters here anyway

[runic surge]

You can like the game and that's fair, but what you're doing is just shitting on people with valid concerns. The game is becoming something it wasn't before and changing fundementally for people who only play ranked cashout like myself and many others. I hate terminal attack and therefore will be quitting this game. They're focusing on the casual community who aren't even interested in ranked instead of the most loyal players who invest money and hours daily into playing ranked. Uninformed stupid opinion. YOU can enjoy it, but the hate embark is getting is more than warranted. The fact alone that so many people are angry should be a sign they're betraying some of their most loyal playerbase. Even besides these changes, they haven't fixed major issues including multiple common game breaking bugs and exploits that people abuse in top tier play.

[tough sapphire]

we will see then. Because right now i dont see how they can bring back trust between the community and the devs. How is this a long term change that is good for the game ? I play daily the finals and everyday i played ranked. there is no challenge in casual and TA is not intersting to play (its my opinion true but other here have said it). I'll wait and see what next season has to offer but right now all I see is a destiny 2 bundle for 10 euros that is starting to flirt a lot with me. We all get it that cashout as a ranked mode needs balancing and change but taking away the mode that is making player come back to play the game is (i think) a really bad decision. We all know that cashout is here but world tour IS NOT A RANKED MODE. You said that there is a lot of negativity in this channel so we only need to give positive feedback ?? I get it that there is people here writing stupid stuff about next season and just turning there brain off just to be toxic. Edit : I was all for a ranked mode for TA but not TA overtaking cashout as the sole ranked mode.

[shadow wraith]

There is an issue with the circuit and there is only one day left for the new season and I need to finish it to get the akm skin WHAT SHOULD I DO !!

[vapid crystal]

The game is great
I'm having a great time
I'm having a great time with my friends
Cash out is exciting
Terminal attack is classic
Power shift is just great fun
I can't wait for tomorrow, I can't wait for more finals!
And Oscar is a cutie ❤️

[tough merlin]

tbf terminal attack is counter strike, and powershift is ow2/tf2. I appreciate that it was so daring but as of late they're releasing "carbon copies" in your words of other games but balanced quite a bit worse. TA is fun but the maps are not even close to balanced for that mode, powershift is equally unbalanced for the maps. (example on horizon without even pushing out far you can seen the entire lanes for the map and quickly figure out where the attacks are going, There's very little mind games and that much info that early makes rotating/countering whatever site they want to go to signifigantly easier then in counter strike.)

editing this cause I can't be bothered waiting 20 mins to agree with this and you can't react in this channel.
@obsidian solar Love all the idea tbh.

[undone cove]

I also have a problem with Career Circuit, which is very frustrating. There is only one task left. I wonder when the official will solve it?

[rapid stream]

Season 1 sucked ass the game has only gotten better

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90
• Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)

FIX THE FOV WHEN HOLDING THE SHIELD UP:

• Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many possibilities! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, on the other hand i've barely seen any Light using smoke, especially when they have better gadgets to choose from

[hasty citrus]

heavy nerf idea : Heavy is slow and fat and probably has a lot of cardiovascular issues so should die from a blood clot getting lodged in a vital artery after sprinting for 5 seconds

[autumn shale]

rs reaper boi

[digital sinew]

I Like the idea of buffing the riot shield 🛡 👌 but adding glitch effect is overkill
I think adding abilities to weapons is not a good idea

[nocturne fern]

remove seoul

[desert beacon]

i dont think it would be fair if the dmg was increased with the swing speed but increasing only swing speed and the blocking movement would be enough

[upper citrus]

Riot shield doesn’t need any offensive buffs now that dual blades are in the game. You have a trade off between damage and blocking now

[stray rampart]

It's buffed in the playtest already, alongwith many other guns

[twin narwhal]

the ranked is so bad holy

[tawny forge]

Nicely put, the game is going only downhill bc devs exclusively listen to casuals

[barren wyvern]

buff ideas: make projectile weapons go through shields.
this will buff the ks23 and bow and make the more useful but still hard to use and at the same time give them more purpose.
this will also nerf heavy mesh shield and bubble shield

[granite ravine]

Day two of asking for Capture the Objective gamemode until Embark responds

[supple mortar]

Yo is sword gonna be viable this season? Im seeing that a bunch of the cancels are gone. (mainly worried about gadget cancelling as emote cancelling was busted.)

[autumn shale]

rs repair boy

[pliant lion]

Record them and fill out a report in the #video-player-reports channel. I had a similar situation once (this dude went 40/3 in one round) and at some point I've received a message that they banned him

[kind light]

Guys, why are you returning to fully red design again? 🟥🟥🟥 Do you want to hurt eyes of your players? My multiple friends said that they fully hated first season red scheme so they tried to skip this frames as fast as possible. This design is not user-friendly. Imagine having a red light beaming your eyes on big monitors. Just change it on something neutral or to some kind of purple as it was in a previous season

[tired oasis]

never, think about balancing compositions.

[mint lintel]

L I don’t know what say it’s the finals

[rain gust]

Ouch. You’ve done nothing but act like you’ve just gotten into this Discord and wanted to talk about the “power of positivity” and “life goals and accomplishments” lol. You are so dense, that whatever complaints and criticisms that we all have as players to better a game and genuinely want their favorite developers to find their way to improve, it goes into one of your ears and out the other. It’s pitiful, because all we can do as players who universally agree on a change being bad laugh at you for being insistent on “keeping ourselves shut and be more positive about things” when you lack the proper standards for gaming in general. You’ve fallen oblivious to it all to a point where you seem to be stuck at a certain timeline of gaming and everyone who wants better for themselves and Embark just swats you to the side, because you never really mattered.

So, we’re not allowed to play Cashout at a higher level now like we did before. It’s out the window, and we must live with it. Is that all you wanted tell me? Or do you have anything else to say that doesn’t blindly defend a developer’s shocking decisions without acknowledging what makes a game, and that is the voices from the community to the developers that helped Embark reach the stage that they’re at now? Spend all this time and money playing their game just for them to reach their goals? At this point, I wonder if you’re a real person or not.

You can call us whining babies, mad people crying all you want. Keep that up, by all means. But unfortunately for you, we all perceive you as the sweet summer child with no standards for gaming, lack of experience as well as respect for their fellow community.

Don’t come back until you’ve put enough hours into the game. Then, you can give me a properly sane verdict for once in your gaming life.

Edit: @light zenith If someone is not being respectful to any of us, then we just fire back. It’s fair they get the same treatment.

[light zenith]

Rule 2 my friend….

[woven pecan]

@tacit hamlet
I hope they fix it soon.
I have 2 challenges left

[fair pulsar]

Bug fixed 4½ hours ago, according to dev's
Bug just happened to me... at 14:00
confused face
I am now on a Pro Circuit instead, that i already completed over a month ago.
confused Lemon Face.

[tawny oriole]

Report him, the more reports the more embark focus on him and verify his stats, if he has cheater stats he get banned.

[errant leaf]

Completely agree.

[glossy sun]

Blueish colors hurt your eyes red is healty

[kind citrus]

There should be a way to put our emotes when the match ends and if we are winners. We should be able to to put the emotes we select at the time they show the animation..

[coarse junco]

Okay bro embark wtf

I get the ban on emote canceling but LITERALLY nobody asked for gadget cancel ban????? You guys continue to make light suffer whilst heavy gets to thrive with its same combos and high damage spam arsenal the sword is basically useless now nobody wants to use a weapon that as soon as you attack someone you get lasered instantly when theres weapons that literally melt people and heavy that demolishes lights mediums and its own class pre nerf sword was broken gadget swapping sword was balanced current sword sucks now chargenslam does 130 damage + 2 bullets kills a light easily and theres no nerf needed for that? Rpg + 1 bullet does the same and theres no nerf needed to that????

[naive fulcrum]

Can grenades not disappear upon dying, if they're mid air just let them go where they're going or if my character is charging up a throw and dies just have it drop directly down, it just feels weird that they go away instantly upon death

[broken geyser]

The spear needs a buff. The special move is really punishing cause the range is deceiving and the range is shorter than ud expect. It's hit scanned. And the special move continues throughput so u can get shot at super easily. It probably needs a damage buff or the strike should be way faster cause rn it seems like its ALOT weaker than sledge.

[tawny forge]

Holy W

[lament talon]

yes!

[autumn shale]

lisan al gaib

[queen ocean]

Let me quote you.

"I want to play a unique game mode with unique classes, specializations and set of weaponry, with breathtaking maps. Now I can't"

So just because World Tour is in effect, unique classes, specializations, weaponry and breathtaking weapons are GONE? Haha, alright.

"I want to grind to Top 500 with the feeling of satisfaction and without a trace of mental health declining, I can't do that either"

That is literally what I talked about, you need to fix your life, son.
Declining mental health should have nothing to do with playing a video game.

World Tournament has ranked Badges, probably matchmaking will still match you with higher level players? How do you know? How should I know? We do not yet, you still wanna whine.

How about you play Season 3 first, before you start heaving a mental breakdown in the first place?

Spend all this time and money playing their game just for them to reach their goals? At this point, I wonder if you’re a real person or not.

Im so amazed and shocked at the same time.

we all perceive you as the sweet summer child with no standards for gaming, lack of experience as well as respect for their fellow community.

Don’t come back until you’ve put enough hours into the game. Then, you can give me a properly sane verdict for once in your gaming life.**

Haha. Im Diamond 4, playing ranked casually and guess what? No mental breakdowns for me.

I can enjoy having noob team mates, seeing how they drop down from the Seoul map. I still go and revive them.

I enjoy winning and I also enjoy getting my cashout stolen in the last sec and losing the round.

I still play with few Silver and Gold friends, knowing we will most likely lose, but that also makes winning even more fun.

I bought every battle pass and lots of skins, because I wanted to spend that money.

I invested time into this game, because I wanted to.

All you did was vomit your unstable emotional state into text. Grow up.

[vestal basin]

test

[hot slate]

Rename this channel to Yappington

[digital sinew]

😂

[rough herald]

Yappington sound like a name for a town lmao

[worn vessel]

Balance overrated

[barren wyvern]

love everything but the electrified baton might be too much and make it too oppressive

[rain gust]

Yet again, you’ve proven in your text that you only care about your experiences, and what you think about, not us. Forget that we’ve ever been around you, got it? So will we. Win-win situation. I speak for those who are concerned about the game. In just minutes, you’ve forgotten about what we’ve talked about, and what truly matters.

Your defense on TA ranked is so god awful that I no longer have to bother to deal with someone like you. I’ve spent an hour of needed rest just talking to someone as lowly as you. Look, everyone has put up with you long enough.

It’s over.

[tulip wagon]

Calamity is a loser

[patent night]

it's just a game tho

[fair pulsar]

i have a question, why does a command prompt pop up 2-3 times for a split second, when i start this game?? it happens just before it loads, useless anti cheat spyware program.
Does this happen to any of you guys as well?

[upper citrus]

The sword is completely fine without any cancelling. And light is getting plenty of buffs for s3

[wise jolt]

APS clip that shows how the gadget works is not up to date. it blocks 4 projectiles but it does, indeed, not block 4 projectiles anymore

[lavish shard]

Buff tk please

[desert beacon]

already done

[wheat frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-you-get-you-get-what-you-deserve-just-desserts-serves-you-right-laugh-gif-16445544

[odd wasp]

bring back gadget swaping for sword. rn this weapon is useless all the mechanics that made this weapon fun and require lots of hours of practicing are gone. sword was the hardest weapon to practice. removing gadget swaping. (that was skill expresion comparing to busted emote cancel) destroys everything. embark pls bring back gadget swaping for season 3 or add some new mechanics that require skill to shorten the time of loading lunge attack

[pseudo breach]

Have asked for this as well before. Same for mines. Thing disappears mid air when you die. Why!?

[glossy sun]

Embark pls give this kid his toy back or he will cry

[quartz shell]

For ranked TA we need separate modes for premade teammates and reandom teammates + separated ranks for each one

[stray furnace]

throwing knife nerf plz

[spice dagger]

i just had to stop playing because of throwing knife are they getting nerfed tomorow?

[sterile ermine]

shouldnt get such a loss in ranked if someone dcs and you arent queueing with them

side note anyone who thinks cashout is good for ranked try playing asia servers and get back to me

[autumn shale]

anecdotal vs empirical evidence cook

[light zenith]

Just to defend my good friend here, @queen ocean W, its just ridiculous how u expect that embark only cares about u pros. I really love watching pros in games and I'm dia 4 myself but un just have to see, that that casuals that u are complaining about that embark is focusing on, are keeping your game alive

[supple mortar]

I mean if he was saying emote cancelling, I'd agree but like... removing gadget swapping when we have stuff like heavy rpg + charge and slam just sucks. If im gonna get vaporized by that, I'd say sword should be able to gadget cancel. The tech is fun.

[lavish shard]

P=light
Meta in qp is tk sword sniper
For season 3 dev
Buff shotgun
Buff lh1
Buff fast regen
No nerf tk
Good luck for play vs all light all time

[kind light]

what is the finals? So previous season you played some other game 🤡 ? Finals always was white+yellow+black. The red was only in background but in none of design elements itself

@glossy sun "Blueish colors hurt your eyes red is healty"
nah, you are not smart at all in this. Not the color hurts eyes but blue diode in LED technology which is used in a lot of screens. Any color can hurt eyes if it is too bright

[prime bane]

Weapons:
BUFF: KS-23 (Bullet velocity, dmg at range), M60 (lessen iron sight wobble), Revolver (lessen recoil, potentially add a close range fan attack), MGL (Nade explodes when hitting a player directly), 93R (DMG output or Magazine Size), LH1 (Slightly lower recoil), MELEE WEAPONS (Slightly buff lunge distance), FCAR (very slightly increase damage or make it potentially worth choosing over AK again some other way)

NERF: LH1 (slightly lower damage), THROWING KNIFE (Lower dmg), LEWIS (Lower DMG)
Abilities:
BUFF: CLOAK (Reduce charge lost on activation), GOO GUN (Buff goo in general)

NERF: CHARGE AND SLAM (Lengthen cooldown by a bit)

Utility:
BUFF: STUN GUN (Make it actually stun again), GOO GRENADE (Buff goo in general, especially it's ability to trap players), ANTI-GRAV GRENADE (Moderate buff to health, too easy to destroy), SMOKE GRENADE (Buff smoke density, make it more like an actual smoke grenade. Maybe even increase the cloud size.), THERMAL VISION (It's bad and nobody uses it, do something with it. Maybe replace it with a gas mask instead that could allow lights to play in gas.)
NERF: RPG (Lower damage slightly), GLITCH GRENADE (Slightly increase regen period)

[desert beacon]

If i had image perms i wouldve showed the lobby i got once, it was almost the same as yours in these pics

[naive fulcrum]

Reposting this

[rough herald]

lag is fcking killing me
i won't complain about lag in other game because imm use to playing at 30fps and i play with 300ping for fun sometime

[quartz shell]

you have image perms but you have to copy the image link
-OH SORRY I THOUGHT THIS WAS #⚡┇the-finals-chat

[mint kiln]

in the last couple days i’ve been lagging as well. yesterday i completely froze and it kicked me out of the game and back to the main menu. then threw up an error code. i restarted the game and was perfectly fine. Ever since the last update Ive had lagging issues.

[misty jasper]

gadget swapping is not an intended mechanic for sword.. it already kills mediums in TWO lunge attacks. how are people struggling w it..

[wise jolt]

powershift is unplayable with the hitscan snipers. i would personally go to sweden to kiss the devs if they make the sniper have falloff and a projectile instead of hitscan

edit: snipers can still have a real bullet. it will not make it the bow. other games also make it work. hitscan snipers is cringe and awful to play against

[crisp garnet]

That's the bow lol

[autumn shale]

anyone wanna talk about the current state of rlcs

[vestal basin]

test

[glacial oyster]

please can we have more body options for the heavy

i wanna make my heavy look like carlea1 whos a 6.8ft karate champion https://i2.paste.pics/R1YD7.png?rand=5Tth42J96k

[arctic lily]

Riot Shield
-Fix the visual bug of the shield obscuring your view when holding an object. Its been like this for multiple patches and reported in the bug channel by quite a few people.
-Let the riot shield either block melee attacks when the shield is up or take reduced damage. Sword and hammer attacks just pierce through it. Same can be said for the heavy's charge and slam.
-The shield is currently using the same logic as terrain when set on fire. Direct hits with a pyro grenade will continue burning the RS user until death whereas every other weapon will just be on fire for a few seconds.

[fresh oxide]

don't remove sword gadget cancel

[formal elm]

Yeah it’s especially bad with toxic gas cans

[desert beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728606611630981203/1250446493727330365/20240607182653_1.jpg?ex=666af88c&is=6669a70c&hm=6e8750199e8e706bd3734b439eb5a18e8254ae67e7eef3138850574ae3356ae0&

[versed hawk]

i beg can we get adaptive triggers in s3 i want to only be able to push the trigger a bit

[kind light]

Thanks for making some changing conditions like loadouts limitations for competitive cashout tournaments instead of constantly nerfing everything in attempt to please casuals.
I am still waiting a casual game mode for newbies with a limited loadouts from you guys so we can attract more new players

[lavish shard]

Good luck for s3 bro light everywhere

[lilac island]

The shield technically does block melee, the problem is that heavy attacks have lingering hitboxes that can cleave and will barly touch your side and hit you so it feels like you can't

[acoustic gust]

Tomorrow I better see a massive damage reduce on throwing knifes

[wise jolt]

lmao, i just had a game of all lights throwing knives xD

[simple parrot]

If the finals had a game collab what other games would you wanna see? I think a splatoon collab would be nuts. idk how the game event would go but I like the idea of scotty and June interacting with those squid hosts

[mild gust]

splatoon collab would go so hard

[queen cloud]

Terrible game balance / design.

[covert mantle]

This will tell if I keep the game or delete it ngl. Lel.

[swift laurel]

minor change, but instead of update saying 'today' an hour countdown to season end with consideration for timezones would be nice

[sinful drift]

Bro is fresh out of dopamine. Yeesh.

[autumn shale]

why does no one like rocket league here ☹️

[quick coyote]

nerf light pls istg

Give light a spec where it can boost the whole teams movement for , let's say 20%. Or give the whole team the invis ability.

[smoky gust]

Id love to see a noita cloak

Could also include 2 8-bit flasks:
one green for gas (flammable gas in noita)
And one orange for pyro (lava in noita)

[fresh oxide]

nice job inventing the vanish bomb

[arctic lily]

I'm aware of the hammer situation and even that needs to be looked at. About the only melee it can block consistently is other riot shields funnily enough. It might work fine for light attacks from the dagger/sword but its hard to say since swords always lunge and daggers are a bit of a rarity.

@quick coyote Did you just forget the vanishing bomb exist?

[desert beacon]

i feel like everyone (almost) suddenly started talking about the balance of the game right now only because of my screenshot, like some dudes said "terrible balance" thing and other said "nerf lights"

[light zenith]

Light is getting some buffs next season: Shotgun, Cloak, smokes etc. Watch ottr‘s video

[lavish shard]

Balance is horrible
Ranked heavy
Qp light
Buff light you kill QP
Nerf heavy you kill it in ranked and qp
Dev do create pro mode " ranked" whit the own rule/balanced

[rare hawk]

Hey Could you like not put daily challenge completion in the challenge circuit thing? my OCD Cant take this I have tonight to finish this and I can't complete these last two quest at least let me pay to complete the challenge.

[jagged bough]

Tbf heavy has 3 fucking light insta kills

[jovial socket]

Can you penalize players who abandoned the game when the team was losing by adding two losses to their stats?

[eager shard]

game crashes when I press to comm to team mates while killing a player at the exact same time

[rough herald]

give me better teammate, why do i have to carry these fuvker every game?

[lilac island]

I think the only reason it handles shield well is because it has no heavy attack, so no lingering hit box attacks. Hopefully the weapon will get some love with time at least to its defensive utility and fixing those bugs you mentioned because man do those suck

[lost olive]

As a next weapon suggestion, I would like to see a mini gun. High ammo capacity, rate and long reload to compensate.

[glass fjord]

no but the hitboxes are "fixed" now...............................

[quick coyote]

What I meant by that is a one click ability like the light itself has. But your right it was dumb of me, now that I read it again xd, but I still like to see the movement boost for the whole team : 😀 @arctic lily

[quick coyote]

Lmao true

[void scarab]

that's called 'netcode' ..

[naive hound]

Do we know what time exactly the new season drops?

[tawny forge]

Any counterpoint to what he said or are you just coping with a soyjack?

[robust nexus]

Hulk hands for heavy when?

[woeful arch]

Love the game and I appreciate hype being built around season 3 launch but I think a couple things could help make a smoother transition for the next time, from Season 3 to Season 4:

• please rename "Career Circuit" to "Career Circuit: Summer Edition" or something similar. I had zero clue from looking at the game's UI and general communication that the Circuit would reset at the end of the season 2, so I have not grinded for the objectives as much as I could have, thinking I could chill and do them later. It came as a disagreeable surprise that it had to be all completed within a week of the announcement of the next season, it led to a sense of burnout having to cram that much extra gaming session over a few days rather than planning ahead had I known a clear date to get it done.
• please announce clearly the final date to get Career Circuit objectives done in the future; you can be hype-y and sneaky about the next season launch date by saying "hey get your goals done by X date, something big is coming soon" and then the next season could be 3 days or 3 weeks away but it'd be fair on objectives-oriented players to be ready and have cleared the current Circuit objectives by the time the next season shows up. You can't give us objectives and then only tell us when to clear them within 7 days - we have busy social and professional lives, it's quite a bit to ask and can lead to having negative associations with the game's title (burnout, confusion about lack of communication, etc.) which ruins the hype you're trying to build.
• please consider resetting objectives on a Friday rather than on a Thursday; I realize on your end Thursdays would help address immediate issues before the week-end but for players getting objectives done, a mid-week reset time is conflicting with other life commitments which can lead to a frustrating game perception and experience.

I know you all listen to us, so trusting this feedback will be heard and seen, thank you for developing such an amazing game, I do look forward to season 3

[manic plover]

SOLVE THE MATCHMAKING FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I GET TEAMED WITH FKIN BOTS BRONZE WHEN THE ENEMY ARE PLATS HELLO ???? EVERY GAME I GET FKIN HANDICAPED CHILDS CLUELESS RUNING AROUND LIKE PIGS
AS OF RIGHT NOW IM PLAYING WITH A MIDDLE WHO IS NOT EVEN PLAYING THE FAST REZ IN HIS KIT WTFFF

[arctic lily]

Perfectly balanced. Can't really say this without sounding bias but the RS feels like the only melee with an honest hitbox. Especially after the changes with hitting multiple targets. I know others have had better luck than me, but I've never hit more than 1 target with a single swing.

[dreamy storm]

glad you guys are standing your ground against these loser ah kids crying over ta

[unique meteor]

more character customisations, weapon customisations with attachments, region based leaderboards for ranked and such and finally harder challenges for circuits so the reward is actually worth for harder stages

[odd ibex]

@pearl kiln Listen people we need kusarigama weapon for light and it’s versatile and unique and it can be used as a whip long range and close range blade and many abilities,watch this move set of the weapon https://youtube.com/shorts/pe8GgAxBifA?si=DObeeH0h72yVzBbE

[fleet trellis]

I'm sick of hearing babies cry because the game is changing. They can't get used to it, and I get the impression that they want to go back to the closed BETA of the game (which, between us, was a disaster compared to what we have now). Always crying at the slightest change that's made for the fan base.

The strategy they're taking is totally justified, and I personally wouldn't mind a change if it meant bringing back new players and streamers, who will finally really appreciate the game and play it again.

would be time to let go of the game and its community if you don't stop crying like babies at the slightest change or improvement.

[short oracle]

Top 500 is clearly something borrowed from a different game
that's ok
But the difference is that that game has a top500 to each region, and their game is region locked, so it's fair to everyone
I hope u region lock the game

[spark shard]

Top500 is fine, good one. Missing to have a ranking for solo players as well (with rewards).

[fervent vortex]

Most games don’t have a region lock, also it’s good so people in less pop zones don’t farm it for free, it will be free to get anyways but will be at least 1% harder than diamond

[velvet niche]

plzzz no terminal attack ranked only tht is a shit game mode tht nbdy plays. also to make terminal attack better can you let ppl heal to max but still ban healing beam

[violet elbow]

this ranked change would be amazing

if it wasnt for terminal attack

probably wont be playing past diamond at max, not willing to hit my head against a wall in a gamemode that has nothing to do with this game

[kind light]

Guys, can you fix damn class and rank disappearing if other player has finished the match but disconnected before yourself? Even in your official videos this looks so silly and screaming to be fixed

[vast quail]

Ranked terminal attack only. Why?

[untold haven]

all of the other changes to rank readability looks good, but please bring back fame points in name, rank score is so less thematically relevant

[sage sonnet]

Can terminal attack impart additional Rank Score bonuses to a player that pulls important clutches? Ex: wins a 1 v 4 on match point or stops a defuse with <1 second to go. I say this because I saw that part of rank score change will be based on individual performance, and saving plays should reward the individual. It would just have to apply only to circumstances where teammates wouldn’t get greedy and ego gamble the win away

[violet loom]

@pearl kiln We need more clarification for ranked. Is there still a hidden skill rank separate from rank that affects progress? Is the mmr comparison team based or individual based? Does it average my whole team since it's team based, or just me?

[unique blaze]

Here's my feedback re ranked

I really like a competitive rank being tied to Cashout modes.
Ranks going up and down and getting skins as a reward, but MAILY, the ability to progress up AND down the rank. Trying as hard as I can to peak my rank towards the end of the season after finding my plateau REALLY incentivises me to play, and when I feel/know I'm a few wins away from ranking up, it's extremely intense each game, as again, it's not just upwards progress, it's risk reward. I have to play consistently well, not just, play enough games to randomly rack up enough wins. Each game counts.
I beg of you to make a dual ranked system. Ranked and Ranked cashout. Or tie certain rewards (and not just multibucks, something I'd be proud to show off - generates that huge desire and intensity if I know something COOL AF is at stake) to Ranked and world tour.

TLDR Upwards and downwards progress tied to cool rewards creates intensity, weight and a risk/reward dynamic that you can't get without it.

Thanks for reading <@&1012034066876473384>

[lilac pelican]

Cashout should stay as ranked, i don't understand why the DEV's are just ignoring the already huge feedback on it.

[night dune]

We admit we didn't quite hit the mark with the ranked system in season 2 Yet the season 2 ranked rewards are still locked. Thanks a lot 🤦

[ivory swallow]

What I have lamented for a long time is that they are putting the game on the path of the meta, and that with the player base that there is is difficult, because I don't think that a CS player of more than 3 years will play a copy or something that resembles it, I don't understand why they take away the frenzy from the game (I'm looking at you terminal attack), they nerfed the Invisibility Skill by excessively increasing its learning curve, they modified the physics of the thrown objects, for what? I've had 220 hours and I haven't seen anyone use them as a strategy, you can't throw down hanging structures while being light...
I really love this game, I recommend it to all my friends whenever I can, but things are missing that strengthen this gameplay, killcam - mvp - victory camera, I feel the game is getting slower and slower, especially with the competitive game. I want them to get rid of the idea of ​​being similar to CS because perhaps they will have an increase in players, but it will not be an organic growth. They will get bored and return to CS

Thank you for reading

[quick coyote]

I will forever say, every FPS game needs Mouse and Key support on console. My friend i duo with all the time only plays on console and cant afford to change his entire setup. We rarely play anything but cod because thats one of the only games that properly supports mouse n key on console. we always have to resort to cod and I hate it. Please add mouse and key support on console. the player base is bigger than youd think, its good to have options, good for accessibility, and every fps game should have mouse n key support especially with crossplay enabled by default, add input based match making or an option. I wanna play this badass game with my friends.

[chrome stream]

To tldr even more (I know <@&1012034066876473384> s probably appreciate tldrs😅)
The rewards for playing cashout in a competitive way (tournaments) going away really sucks. I grinded so hard for the plat skin for the end of this season, would have played half as much if the reward wasn't there.
"Forcing" myself to grind for the skin made me appreciate and enjoy the game more as I was consistently playing each day or two, rather than casually.
Thank you for considering. ❤

[silver rapids]

When I start the game on PS5 it asks for my date of birth. When I restart the game it gets fixed

[quartz shell]

Maybe an IP ban or device ban would be good against hackers, I simply imagine the top 500 full of hackers, also that the bans are for the duration of the season

[barren horizon]

Can we get kill cams ( i know they are hard to make but help players get reported for cheating)

[umbral pebble]

i want to buy this shield, but not the entire pack sigh

[formal elm]

Me too omni

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/josheats15-gary-theres-a-bomb-strapped-to-my-chest-gary-spongebob-bomb-gif-24981294

[upbeat ore]

Terminal attack is boring. I don't play Valorant/CSGO because the mode is boring. Bring back the old ranked mode please.

[sick forum]

i feel like it’s weird for the main ranked game to exclude certain core mechanics of the game, i.e. respawns and heals. like if u don’t think it’s good for the game then remove it, the core ranked gameplay should include all components of the game.

it’s like a game mode with only light players becoming the only way to play ranked, it takes away from players who utilize a different strategy, i.e. support players

[high tinsel]

Would love a casual mode to play with my friends that doesn’t have mmr.

I usually get 15-25kills, but my friends usually go horribly negative, and this is in all gametypes, leading to me having to carry harder and all of us having less fun. They’re new to the game so it’s understandable that they would do poorly, but 0-3kills and 10+ deaths every game every night is unacceptable. Please make at least one game mode random matchmaking like the old days of gaming, and if people want to sweat they can play ranked.

[random topaz]

Bro season not even started and I have a feedback. WTF terminal attack for ranked! Literally the game THE FINALS was to cashout MONEY around the map. Now you bring Rainbow Six Siege to The Finals. If I wanted to compete in this style of gameplay Id play rainbow or Csgo not The Finals. The whole point of the game is the normal gamemode so why not compete and RANK UP in the original gamemode!

[cursive warren]

Sigh bruh tf is this server connection bs man, all im seeing is running in place ass matches,

[waxen verge]

you are a little too late to the party lol

[willow ice]

Totally agree

[velvet moth]

Just try it out. The feedback you are talking about is only 2 hours of gameplay from streamers who are biased. You and I may not agree with the TA being the new rank mode, but this might bring new players to the game that end up liking "cashout" mode, and that's good for us, too. More players.

@coral forum TA has been another mode for half of the second season and the numbers stayed the same. I'm no expert, but if new players can grind something that they are familiar with, they'll stay and even invite new friends to rank together. As for making it another rank and be able to climb up to Rubi, with the numbers we have "right now", it'll be more difficult to find matches.

[coral forum]

I agree, more players is an overall good for the community. BUT, why not keep Cashout as the ranked mode and just add TA as nother one?

[spark shard]

That is my point, why not both as an independent ranked systems?

[odd ibex]

Add this weapon Kusari Gama

[dim gyro]

I am a bit surprised they just have it as a package with Ranked
Like it is a category with Terminal Attack, Power Shift and Tournament. Giving more of an option than in a way forcing people to play TS if they want Ruby. Not everyone is found of TS and some are.
I will try it out still, but I think just it being one whole thing with all of these options are a good thing as well instead of seperating it.

So to clarify:

You open up Ranked and you see the options of Tournament, Power Shift and Terminal Attack.

I know they did something like this for S1 of Cash Out & Tournament so why not also for Ranked?

[thorn elbow]

Completely agree wtf are they thinking? This just killed the game 100% they wont ever see me spend 100s of hours in that shithole that’s for sure. Like why not have normal ranked AND terminal attack ranked mode how is that so hard

[gaunt plover]

1 map per season is killing me

[placid obsidian]

Day 10 of asking that native keyboard and mouse support be added to consoles.

[sonic raft]

I wish I could edit and save new loadouts while in the practice range. It's nice to be able to test things out and switch around my loadout on the fly but be able to save it to that contestant.

[tired haven]

There is 5 players per team per TA rank, more chance that one of them will leave either due to rage quitting or technical issues. I had prefered cashout since you only needed three, which lessen such variables, got a buddy to play it which makes it better but primarily a solo dude. I'm just saying, if T.A got no surrender button and we get penalised for leaving when we are down a member then I'll prolly wont even touch it at that point. Maybe if its related to dailes but yep...

[void rapids]

Somehow my MMR got absolutely fucked. I am Plat 1 and have almost reached D1 but consistently have losing streaks and get bumped back to P2 only to repeat the cycle. However even when in the lower rankings of P1, I get down arrows unless I make it to the finals. Even at a 30K+ ranking.
Constant D3s and even D2s in lobby. Yet I’m still Plat 1 no matter what I do. It’s crazy.

[simple sierra]

Yeah I have the same issue.

[night spruce]

Correct to many ppl in Diamond right now 🙂 that's why ruby is coming / end of the season

[marsh horizon]

Nah man, Bank it as the ranked mode is the way to go

[formal raft]

For controller, why isn’t there a way to have my equipment be cycled using LB / RB (Xbox) or L2 / R2 (PS)??? In this case your special equipment would need a new button which I would put on the DPAD and disable something like emoting. Personally I don’t really emote in any game so not having that function in exchange for faster controller gameplay is a no brainer. Would love a response on this!

[buoyant oracle]

TERMINAL ATTACK AS THE NEW RANKED MODE IS AN L

[raw swan]

Ngl dawg i just want more readily available cosmetics. Stickers, skins, accessories, I don't really mind grinding to get them I'd prefer that over having them locked beyond buying multibucks

[latent meteor]

TA as ranked is the best thing thats ever happened

[blissful locust]

@buoyant oracle Keep an open mind. Who knows, might be a w?

[supple jasper]

Can you reach the Terminal?

[muted jungle]

[glacial grail]

terminal attack makes playing solo way worse imo, 2 random teammates being bad sucks, but if u get 4 randoms that cant perform ur instantly going to lose

[drowsy rapids]

Y'all might want to consider re releasing this seasons rewards some time 😭

[drowsy spruce]

I think the worst part about terminal attack being the new ranked is that it instantly dropped the uniqueness of the finals by like 200%, just another 5v5 tactical search and destroy team based shooter, im willing to keep an open mind but it definitely feels like way less special of a game

[pulsar plover]

does the circuits reset with the new season?

[glacial oyster]

please can we have more body options for the heavy

i wanna make my heavy look like carlea1 whos a 6.8ft karate champion https://i2.paste.pics/R1YD7.png?rand=5Tth42J96k

[desert beacon]

That would cause the problem of hitboxes being broken af for the class, so thats probably a bad idea

[placid lark]

Hey loving the game rn wondering anyone knows if will be added more slot for classes in season 3?

[magic hill]

Cashout ranked please 🙂

[kind light]

Please just make two separate ranked modes. What is the problem in this? Make rewards to be reachable from any mode whenever player hits a certain medal in any of it. Leave World Tour, its fine, but give us back to grind in cashout mode. I want grind, you want me to play The Finals so you would we break our relationship?
Did you just gave up on making a good ranked system for 4 squads of 3 players? I think it will be totally fine to have some rolling rules for ranked so it can shake scene a bit. Is anyone asked for the whole season to be with no changes for ranked system at all if these changed are for good?
Some games like Dota 2 have fixed rank with no seasons at all. They release patches like once per few months and it change the whole game but players are fine playing a refreshed game if rules are the same for everyone

[rough herald]

why do i have to carry monkey without hands every fcking game?
i want to be possitive but its really getting to me

[undone cove]

I still have a Career Circuit bug, how can I contact their support?

[strong sparrow]

Day 1 of asking to revert TA ranked (its a casual gamemode that is NOT suited for competition) and bring back cashout ranked (at least for S4 and onward)

[grizzled ravine]

#game-announcements message

[deep egret]

Nerf grenade launcher and throwing knife wtf

[cinder ridge]

nerf throwing knife fire rate keep the other changes

[void rapids]

Just make the throwing knives have some sort of “clip” and cooldown/reload like every other ranged gun.
Unlimited fire is what makes it busted.

[final gust]

New Terminal Attack Ranked Ideas:

The revive credit system is a core feature of the game. The way your able to pick up your teammates dead toy and find a safe place to revive them adds an interesting element that is unique to the finals.

I understand having "no revives" adds more strategy to the mode, but it's too similar to Rainbow Six.

Idea: Allow players to revive downed teammates, but doing so will use one of the team revive credits (It could pull from a team credit collective pool that isn't replished between rounds.).

This will add strategy to the mode because you have to decide when & where to revive a teammate. But also if it's worth using a credit for that round.

Sometimes the dead toy is used as bait to get a kill off an enemy as well.
(We even drop mines on toy heads)

I would still block defibs and reviving yourself via the player cam timer. You can even increase to time it takes to revive the toy. To help add counter play.

[turbid hull]

TA as a wrong translation in french it written "attaque terminal" but the correct translation is "attaquez le terminal"

[shrewd egret]

give us back cash out ranked

[surreal meadow]

suggestion for the terminal attack description, label is as

"first to 7", not "best of 13"

you know every valorant fan (who doesnt acknowledge its from counter strike) is going to critique this part blindly & loudly; because you solely had the number as 13. dont include the number 13 around this gamemode

[stoic flicker]

Agree with this. First to 7 is best.

[north eagle]

embark I beg of you PLEASE do not make terminal attack the only ranked mode. maybe some people want it, but don't remove ranked cashout. also, are there going to be terminal attack tournaments? if not, there is no finals in The Finals

[vague storm]

Can keyboard and mouse support be update for console 🙏🏼. There is no way to adjust sensitivity or key binds, or navigate the menu with mouse on console.

[brittle obsidian]

I really hope the LH1 buff was not based on telemetry, because the reason the LH1 is underutilized is not because its weak (its literally the strongest gun in the game), its because it feels terrible to use. It has virtually no recoil, but intense visual recoil, which makes aiming feel awkward when firing continuously.

[shrewd furnace]

After bug with master circut i had ledt 2 quest but after this bug i have 4 WTF EMBARK?

[polar hill]

I suggest updating the game engine to 5.4 in a future patch, as well as updating all available upscaling solutions to newer versions like DLSS to 3.7.0, XeSS to 1.3, and FSR to 3.1. UE 5.4 brings more optimizations which make the performance better and that should improve the general game experience for people in combination with the updated better upscalers. Also, add DirectStorage api to improve loading, there are times where all players are stuck to a loading screen for the match due to singular users with slower machines, and DiSto can eliminate/lower that.
@pearl kiln

[crimson moon]

if ur standing on top of a cashout station the game doesn't register you as standing still and the orbital laser event won't target you, also why are cashouts stations unvaultable or climbable?

[rugged ivy]

oh yeah its over. went from 1 contract to 5. time to grind before I cry skill issue

[tawny oriole]

The finals took from every game a feature and weapons. This chain weapon that pulls target is from overwatch, map ashika island, bow is also cod etc , but its a good idea to attract players other games to the finals . Good job devs

[naive hound]

Top 500 seems steep considering how relevant hackers are on this game. Switching the top 500 reward to be platform based and or region locked would be an incentive for more players to go for this goal. Coming from a console players standpoint, having to grind top 500 against PC players across the world with most of them being hackers doesnt seem obtainable. Top 500 for XBOX, PS, and PC. seems more realistic and fair for the playerbase. I can almost guarantee the top 500 players will end up being hackers or players who play with hackers.

[glacial knot]

Dont worry every ban wave you see the leaderboard different because many get banned. Top 500 are not all hackers but there are many hackers. The devs are doing ther best to ban them , just what i recommand is, that they should start hwid ban them.

[ionic rampart]

HWIDs are very easy to fake, unfortunately. HWID bans would be a mild inconvenience to cheaters at best

[toxic quail]

having to spoof hwid makes it easier to detect. The more stuff you force them to do, the more chances you get at detection

[quick coyote]

Every game nowadays have cheaters the finals is no different all tho I haven't seen one in my 300 h

[formal elm]

Hear me out: ranked should be just the final round of cash out. It would be 3v3 (maybe 5v5?) and you go up to 30,00 so it would be best 3 out of 5 instead of 2 out of 3. Also, keep the reduced gadget cooldowns of terminal attack! Every completed cash out brings back your gadgets but you only get one of them per cash out!

[mild gust]

I agree with the first part but i think they should just increase gadget cooldown, not only be able to get them back per cashout. love the idea of only a 3v3 tho it’s a nice balance between TA and cashout.

[coral forum]

400+h only seen 1-2 hackers.

I also vote to include cashout in the ranked system.

[void rapids]

Ruby won’t fix this issue. It just changes the logo next to their name. They will still show up in lobby’s they don’t belong in.

Plus isolating 500 players won’t change the other 15K that have no business ever being matched up either Plat players.

[night spruce]

I think there fixing the spacing a bit

[fiery shard]

we need chashout as the main ranked mode

[odd ibex]

Listen people we need kusarigama weapon for light and it’s versatile and unique and it can be used as a whip long range and close range blade and many abilities,watch this move set of the weapon https://youtube.com/shorts/pe8GgAxBifA?si=DObeeH0h72yVzBbE

[clever plank]

I think they should give the career things for free. I don't want to grind all the quests again in one day since I was already so close to finishing it. This is coming from the assumption that they will be gone next season.

[trail niche]

How do I get the frog pack?

[fervent vortex]

I do agree top 500 should be platform specific but it’s brain dead to get, just play for a week get top 10 then quit and coast, you end like 250

[keen comet]

i know that probably it's the wrong chat but when i take an explosion canister and i throw it to a building (and the structure explode) i don't earn points. How i can solve this?

[slim prawn]

Ruby being different from the other ranks so you need to end on top 500 is a bad change. Nobody wants to feel locked to a game all season and I was so satisfied popping back in now and then. Now I am being told I have to play a gamemode I absolutely hate to get a rank that is gonna be taken from me constantly

[gritty wraith]

someone had the same issue, fire barrel counts but not explosive, use data reshaper to get more fire barrels and make it easier

[coral pivot]

I hope that the finals is as enjoyable as its music😢. Listened to the new OST just now. It is just so perfect and amazing. Most beautiful musics Ive ever heard.

[zenith patrol]

suggestion: When on healing beam prevent switch back to weapon when pressing Q (specialization). Useful for spamming it when you are resurrected and prevent accidental switches.

[pulsar yew]

suggestion: make my randos better

[fathom tiger]

I don’t even play sword but please revert the gadget swapping fix, animation cancels makes your game have depth, keep the emote cancel fix however

[craggy folio]

Honestly, don't bother counting this... Just use heavy and use frag and rpg whenever u need

[terse lark]

can the devs do a live stream with content creators and top players to talk about the game (in regards to balancing, the direction the devs want to take the game, maybe some things they are thinking about, working on, and testing, and other stuff like that. I feel like this would solve a lot of problems and make players feel like we more communication with the devs.

[hardy bridge]

use orange barrels

[obtuse wedge]

They surely can see all the advices and opinions we sent here, so no diff if they do a live stream, the answer u will get is “we have planned that already, may not be what u want but it’s something we want to try out” blablabla. So if anything, ask devs to randomly reply some opinions in here that they feel interesting will be fine enough

[turbid wind]

Hey Embark, first off, I love the game right now and personally don't need much to keep me hooked other than new content, but I feel most are different.

I wanted to suggest a mode that alienates teamwork and would be better for the average fps player. Maybe add a mode where you compete with everyone else to gather a certain amount of money (maybe 20k) by killing others. When someone is holding 20k+ for 5 seconds, they win. Dying makes you drop all your cash plus 1k, similar to Bank It.

[white tide]

How is this circuit thing going to pan out because I only had two to finish (literally almost done) and now after the reset I have like 15

[exotic quartz]

Shoot the orange flammable barrels and you'll finish that fast.

[pale minnow]

i likr thois

[thick ferry]

I think we need a class cap for platform

[vast quartz]

Circuit challengers are still locked and messed up despite their “hot fix” … hopefully we all get compensated w the stuff we can’t get now … thanks

[clear shale]

Not sure which thread or where to go for this. However I had one last challenge on the cuircut board to finish up. Though it seems my circuits of this season reset and I am able to work through them all again, but im obviously not going to get rookie to masters done to get the last cosmetic

[crystal umbra]

-Bootleg killcam
Instead of a traditional kill cam, incorporate a police style killcam.

In game each player has a rolling 30 second clip. Once a player gets a kill the clip is saved. Or players can "suspect" a person of cheating and that captures a 30 second clip to send to the disciplinary team at Embark.

[timber vigil]

I just filed a support ticket for this, but this Circuit glitch is actually really frustrating. I had 2 challenges left in the Masters Circuit and already had all the stage rewards. Now that the circuits glitched, it reset several of my challenges including several in the Masters Circuit and gave me new challenges including one that requires me to complete Daily Contracts which is IMPOSSIBLE to do a this point for me. Not only that, but rather than needing only 2 challenges that I was almost done with, now it's back to 8 brand new challenges I would have to complete to even get the AK. This is honestly such a joke and such a waste of my time and I guarantee several other players who have the same issue. Long story short, I can't get the AK because of Embark's screw up.

[quick coyote]

Mouse and Key on console. Friends only wanna play cod because of it. I hope any of the devs or community managers can spread the word. There is 0 reason for it not to be in the game by default. Same with XDefiant but at least thsy care. I HOPE season 3 will launch support. If my friend has to go another month on controller hes probably gonna drop the game and stick woth xdefiant when they add it in.

[scarlet oriole]

Get rid of the dumbass ranked system the arrows are horrible just put it back to beta

[quick coyote]

Why he play on console if he doesn't want to use controller, that's so stupid

[cinder ridge]

make dematerializer more consistent.

[muted jungle]

affordability bro lol

[hardy bridge]

make the s4 weapons meta shattering

[wind phoenix]

I would really love to see medium get a replacement for the turrets in the form of the new turrets being in the form of symmetras turrets, with them being as fragile as hers, but with the advantage of being able to place several of them

maybe shape them in the same way that the turrets from Mr. Incredibles goop shooters were

[jagged bough]

If it helps what heavy got is gonna be meta

[celest anchor]

Can we buff the xp gain for the data reshaper? Im sure the patch notes are already written up but this thing takes forever to level up

[violet elbow]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ResilientRealIcecreamGrammarKing-5ubb_0K23vx4a7tA

balanced ability btw

[weak valley]

Is there a reason why we don’t have beards yet, especially when tradition samurai at the time of 1560 had beards as a symbol of their warrior pride?
Unplayable

[ionic kayak]

Rank Race Community Event, choose a sponsor and try to get the highest placement possible.
Whoever lands the highest ranking overall wins.

[celest cairn]

Better crosshair customization such as with valorant
AND
Allow favouriting skins, emotes, charms etc so people can cycle through their favourite skins automatically. This would be really good as I personally now have a multiple skins for the same weapons but I cant use them all.

[foggy ginkgo]

Not everyone can afford a pc bro the next best option is being able to use mnk on console

[acoustic coyote]

In Terminal Attack maps need to be smaller with invisible walls. Game and maps are not designed for Terminal Attack so maps are too big right now. Ottr made a good video about that.

[spare sluice]

Considering the game has a total of 16 teams, I would like to see team names become an option so that players may stick to one team name of their choice. Whenever I think about this game, I can't help but associate myself to The Boundless or The Big Splash. So it woupd be nice to have team names become an optional choice if such a thing ever comes down the line.

[timber stag]

anyone think gateway should increase in range (to 80 or 90) and be open just a bit longer?

[plush solstice]

Ranked cash out > Ranked Terminal Attack.

Nuff said.

[hasty cliff]

haha i second this i want to always be on The Retros (im not biased... maybe)

[ember acorn]

Please continue trying to improve the game performance

[lavish shard]

Buff/nerf see in vidéo but maybe change tomorow
Light
Buff dmg LH1 nerf fire rate
Buff cloak
Buff shotgun 2 tap heavy
Regen hp 10 to 7 sec
Buff Smoke 3 nade
Buff breach charge
No nerf TK
Medium
Nerf healing beam
Rework glitch mine
Heavy
Nerf lewis dmg
Better recoil m60
No nerf rpg
No nerf charge and slam

[void scarab]

can we get less animation cancel on the grenade?
i keep pulling the pin out of the frag and then put it back in my pocket 😑

[fringe burrow]

I mean thats literally powershift though, also escort modes have been around way longer than any of the games you listed, its nothing new.

[spark drift]

I would have taken KOTH over SnD anyday but they still are not the modes that I loved about the finals. A lot of my friends are dropping it now.

[north spade]

Does anyone know how much is there time left to finish up circuit because ''ends tomorrow'' doesnt tell much

[torpid sentinel]

Giving heavy a fucking grapple stun ability is so stupid. Why are these devs such m0r0ns

[graceful crest]

Just my opinion, thank you.

Grenades: They shouldn't be stackable. Reduce the cooldown time so players can use them more frequently without spamming.

Smoke Grenades: They need improvement for better functionality.

Healing Gun: It should require reloading to balance its effectiveness. It should serve as a tool for stepping out of combat to re-enter, rather than providing constant healing like a plug-and-play Mercy Main(overwatch).

Turret: Reduce its health as grenades struggle to destroy it, especially when there are three of them. Also, having three medium turrets can be overwhelming with the addition of mines.

Mines: Adjust their damage output to half of a player's health for balancing purposes. Additionally, any gas or area effects should last for a set duration, equivalent to taking the point's duration.

Defibrillator: Increase its cooldown time for balancing with coin system to regulate its use, preventing it from being overpowered.

Charge Slam: Reduce its damage output and screen shaking effects.

(removed-not good idea) RPG: Prevent it from causing self-kills for tanks.

Dome Shield, Mesh Shield, and Barricade : Balance these abilities against each other. Allow Barricade to have a short throw option to level the playing field with Dome Shield.

[crystal umbra]

Let's brainstorm fun ways to market this game.

Take a bomb ass set of cosmetics or two. Make a invite code.

We invite players to download the game and play.

We make it two fold attack and we make a "day of play" for The finals where there is some reason to hop on and stream the game.

The game is fun, we just don't have enough people playing it.

I think the best time to do this is during the yearly game drought when there are no new games dropping.

What are some ideas you guys have?

[kindred dirge]

Why are you guys saying a full paragraph about your opinion. This is a big report thing here.

[autumn sedge]

Dude actually said rpg gets buffed. Rpg needs a nerf, still

@rotnun.101#0000 It's a video game. Irl you'd die from a bullet to the hear or head, but its a virtual game. Rpg shouldbt be as powerful as an irl rocket launcher, it should be balanced.

[quick coyote]

I mean it is an rpg

[uncut bloom]

Just wanted to drop a post here re: Power Shift, it's the game mode that got me and 4 of my mates absolutely hooked on this game

Since getting exposed to that, we've been dabbling in ranked and recently switched focus to TA to prep for next season however we all talk about Power Shift and we all see it as the biggest contender for a ranked playlist for sure!

[delicate yoke]

Remove throwing knives

[granite vale]

My gaming experience has been ruined without my handlebar mustache on my lights and my giant lumberjack beard for heavy, we need beards yesterday

[pallid wigeon]

I had two challenges left in the masters circuit, then that happened 😭

[inner violet]

Fix matchmaking

[simple quiver]

please let us use vrc or multibucks to skip circuit challenges, the quick melee challenge and the steal challenge will actually make me go insane

[quick coyote]

Not everyone can afford to switch, he paid it off from a friend when he could afford it and only got into gaming a couple years back. Hes always wanted to switch and never has a chance too. that argument isnt really valid given no matter what platfornm you play it CAN be supported. Mouse and Key can be supported and its not his fault it isnt. More ways to play is always better for all games and is good for accessibility reasons as well for different inputs for different disabilites. Its also just useful for the people that cant afford a PC or able to switch.

[void scarab]

i do agree that both parties should be able to use both KBM and controller, but they also need to remove AA from consoles with KBM

[glad delta]

nerf lh1 fire rate but bump its damage to 55

[torpid sentinel]

The game is making heavies even more op than they already were. Remember when stun was nerfed to the ground because stunning a character in play, unable to use gadgets was deemed OP? Well guess what, they decided its a good idea to give it to heavies, but no only does it stun you, but it also reals you in for an easy 200 hammer swing.

The game is actually cooked. idc what you guys say. this shit is going to continue to die. Because all the new players joining dont want to deal with this bs. If they wanted to get roadhogged they would play OW

[queen ocean]

What happend to Heavies in S3?

[cloud frigate]

I do feel like the ranked system should have some increase/decrease depending on your skill/stats during the game instead of just win/loss but this is definitely a step in the right direction

[lament prism]

It is, I like they we will get some points depending in our performance i'm tired of working to much for the team and they cant even kill a single light

[next sedge]

There's a bug that let's Light players stay invis permanently and still use weapons. It happened to me yesterday and the game kicked me out assuming because it thought I was cheating but I had to spam it to get out of it. The cool down continued to build up and go down as I hit the button though it only took me out after I spammed it. Shortly after that I was kicked from the game

[finite briar]

that's exactly what happened to it in S3 but include less visual recoil

[obtuse iris]

This isn’t so much game feed back besides the bug but Every time I go to customer support to make a ticket it makes me login to my wrong embark account and it won’t let me try another and idk how to message them about how I had 1 or 2 things left in the pro/master circuit but I was almost done with them and can’t create a ticket

[fervent vortex]

Literally 0 games on console are mnk allowed, seige had to ban cheats that mimicked mnk for that reason, your asking to dev to alter hardware which is brain dead

[drowsy mirage]

we need 2 days more for ranked. like if you agree

[quick coyote]

cod, halo? xdefiant being open about supporting mouse and key on console? its not hard and not at all brain dead, its brain dead to assume otherwise. Omg people cant use 2 different inputs on a game with hardware that supports it... oh no!

Ottr already crying about s3 terminal lol😂

[pseudo latch]

Day 87 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

Also this helmet please

[glacial knot]

Are sure its a bug not a cheat, no cool down

[ember crystal]

@true epoch @true epoch I was 99% complete done by circuit challenges and now I'm back to 75% because of the bug. I will never be able to get all the contracts back in time. Additionally, there's still a bug where it's impossible for me to complete the circuit challenge to do arena damage with arena throwables. The game DOES NOT register any damage. It's literally impossible for me to complete the circuit and you guys totally screwed me out of my AK skin. You should just give us the AK skin instead of making us re-gring for 20 hours to get back to where we were.....

[vale acorn]

Don't listen to the haters of the anime skin I hope I get to see 1920's noodle armed toon as a skin eventually

[oak ledge]

PRECOMPILIG SHADER PIPELINES

[idle thistle]

stop begging and start making

[terse lark]

I just feel like there are still a lot of unanswered questions that the community feel are important. they leave us guessing half the time. it's also kinda difficult to follow everything said in the discord and a lot of people aren't even in the discord. if they were to do a community live stream with people from the dev team and prominent people in the community every season or even every other season it would help the community feel more in the loop with what the devs are planning for the game as well as bring the whole community together in a positive way instead of being toxic

[cedar haven]

Maybe because everytime they do something cool everyone goes and cries about their thing being too op

[magic frigate]

Please look into making sound cues way louder and clear. And overall adding more sound cues. Specialization and gadgets being noisy can help a lot with playing with and against them.

[karmic remnant]

hi

[lament prism]

The throwin kinifes please

[muted ice]

Obviously waitin for the season to drop to see for myself but im kinda disappointed with the medium changes ive seen from content creators, mediums feel weak enough in the meta as is, a glorified heal bot, but now heal beams been nerfed and no buff compensation, no new gadgets or specialization to help diversify the kit, weapons remained the same it seems and mediums are once again going through the wringer, I like the light changes ive seen, and I don't feel like the heavy needed the shotgun buff or the oppressiveness of the winch chain, but here we are I guess

[simple quiver]

we need the bucket helmet

[modern spindle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1dein04/idea_my_idea_for_removing_ranked_and_making/

[void horizon]

Skill issue. Can’t have MK on console cause too many of you children try to abuse aim assist. Without a reliable way to detect what’s going on, they have no way to stop it. At least with a PC they can deploy a proper anti cheat

[stark notch]

no way in hell I will grind non stop for ruby playing terminal attack lmao

[winged cargo]

It's great to see that Embark tries so hard to communicate with us but, I think they are seeing a bit of the "gamer effect" this season. When you have a game that's popular but not THAT popular, the community tends to be dominated by a vocal minority that likes to complain. As a product, you get locked in "balance hell" where people want conflicting things. Season 1, people complained light was too op. Now everyone complains light is useless. ANYWAYS, you guys are great Embark, you're doing your best and I think season 3 will be really fun, the map (and world tour mode) have both clearly had a lot of love put into them and I'm personally very excited

[odd ibex]

@pearl kiln Listen people we need kusarigama weapon for light and it’s versatile and unique and it can be used as a whip long range and close range blade and many abilities,watch this move set of the weapon https://youtube.com/shorts/pe8GgAxBifA?si=DObeeH0h72yVzBbE

[scarlet oriole]

What shit is this i won and got two arrows up fix ur shit game

[shut thistle]

Why are y’all trying to turn this into a melee game if ur aim sucks just practice and get better!!

[next sedge]

I don't have cheats so no. Unless it was just a visual bug on my end

[quick coyote]

Children? Also you think i mean have mouse and keyboard with aim assists how does that even work. Games already crossplay youre already running into MnK players. Obviously dont have aim assists with proper support. Makes 0 sense to assume thats what I meant

[sharp herald]

ty for S2

[umbral pebble]

I really love your soundtracks Embark, but please… learn to keep a leitmotif. The S1 leitmotif that introduced the Finals to us is really strong and should at least get one track every season. The game needs a theme melody. In S1 the 1st and 2nd track are this leitmotif. Even Marvel which is famous for throwing their leitmotifs away learned at some point that they need the Avengers Theme because it’s iconic. Please don’t lose the iconic “DAA DAA DAA” of the finals. Bring it back. The new Track “The Big League” is awesome and comes very close to the original feeling of S1 but it doesn’t have the leitmotif as far as I can tell.

[desert moat]

It's the syllables of "The Finals" or "Can You Reach - The Finals" if you listen closely to the rhythm.

[thorn elbow]

Ranked being terminal attack will completely kill the game, they keep talking about bringing new players but what about current players?? if they stop playing/play less because the game isn't what the game once was and the change doesnt really bring new players how is that not a massive failure??? honestly i dont see a world where that change goes well for the Embark team like its actually so dumb

[merry totem]

Apologies for the long message. I haven't given feedback in a long while and thoughts have built up. It's all from love (love you, Embark) and hopefully with the respect due to you all. Still, S3 prompted these feelings so might as well share... TL;DR: The Finals can feel like a sprawling mess, to me, at least... Might be too long so Part 1(?): I feel like Embark is this studio of artists, auteurs even (if I can say something super pretentious), and it has an inevitable impact on the enjoyability of the game, for me, at least. Sometimes I feel like the gameplay is an after-thought, even though intellectually I know it's not. I have no doubt the Embark folks (yolks) are busting their brains every day trying to figure this out. But it seems like a game that was designed to be extremely cool where the unconscious assumption or wishful thinking was that the gameplay would ultimately sort itself out on its own to a great extent. Instead, I agree with the people saying that the game would benefit from more depth rather than breadth, but with such a range of possibilities the question is where to focus the energies and add that depth. I have my own thoughts, fwiw. In some sense, these are too late to help, but the idea of depth vs. breadth is the core concept (and def not original to me). Here are just four crazy/goofy ideas: (1) Unlike maybe most games, I think more maps is not the answer to replayability and the avoidance of boredom for THE FINALS. Rather focus on more variations within each map. I'm all for new maps, btw, just maybe rotate them in and out by season. That way both the devs and players can go deep into, say, three or four maps per season and lots of hopefully wild and challenging variations... (to be continued)

[kindred owl]

a option to choose season battle pass OST in game :0 would be really awesome since the audio team @ embark cooks each season (a random/all option would be awesome too)

[woven hawk]

Thank you for season 2 ❤️

[paper rose]

What do you guys think about giving sonar back to medium and data reshaper to light?

[void horizon]

The fact you’re confused proves my point. Console players use third party hardware to disguise mouse and keyboard inputs as controller activity. Allowing them to get controller aim assist on MK. It’s a big issue, and the main reason why so many games on console limit input methods. Embark can’t control or patch that out, unless they just don’t support MK on console. It’s up to Sony and Microsoft to figure out a solution to properly validate inputs and block all current and future third party hardware tools. But that’s difficult, near impossible without locking down the consoles more than they already are. So you’re stuck with controller, since a medium minority chose to abuse console aim assist

[narrow valley]

Source? I MADE IT THE FUCK UP!

[clear mesa]

crybaby

[shell steppe]

I really had high hopes Terminal Attack will be embedded into Ranked tournament as the final round after Knock out rounds.

So here is some feedback:
Knockout round 1 =3vs3vs3vs3 Cashout
Knockout round 2 =3vs3vs3vs3 Cashout
The Final round = Terminal attack (3v3 - best of 7)

Would be the best of both worlds.

S3 will be fire🔥

[quick coyote]

Please find a way to make sure people CAN NOT LEAVE ranked bro I end up with 0 team mates at the end and I was in bronze and the enemy’s were in like diamond 💀

[abstract pewter]

https://www.change.org/p/keep-the-finals-ranked-gamemode-as-the-cashout-tournament

[torpid pine]

I was almost dead and hit someone’s gateway in the final round of ranked and they killed me as I entered the gateway. My token showed on the floor but no one could revive me so I had to watch the final game.

[obtuse wedge]

New ideas:
S3 is on the way with plenty of changes, but ive been thinking some ideas and just wanna throw them out here for you devs; its some ideas for new weapons and potential new mode to your interest (make TF competitive)

1
currently we have some melee weapons and some different guns in-game, for upcoming S3 you guys have made bow and spear for weapons, so why not throw in some more-- crossbow: my idea is to make it as a replacement for rpg (since rpg has been one of the most hated gadget for quite long time. But ofc, u can surely make it for other class's weapon or gadget, whatever u like), left click: trigger the bolt shoots out, right click: to aim more precisely (if u want left click to have a relatively random projectile direction). projectile speed can be set between faster than arrow from Bow, and slower than bullet from gun.

if u want some fancy tricks, u could make it precise on left click, and change the bolt option on right click to reload some other bults like EchoBolt to detect close range for once or twice, BlastBolt to stick to the object when it hits, and explodes after beeping for 2-3 sec (if u do this, i think theres something u could do for L's Bow as well. Only if u want fancy stuff).

2
Currently u making TA as ranked mode, the least fun idea ive heard so far, and i believe majority of the people feel the same, so im throwing a idea for new mode--- 5v5 Cash Out: At least to me, its better than S&D. u can have some limitation for certain gadgets or weapons or even the classes. u can create 2 cash out machines around the map, with 3 cash boxes. So theres team coordination involves, how many team members a team decides to use to hold the machine, and how many member will flank or delay the opponents to cash, or even try to steal them.

Have an idea for TA as well, but reached limitation in one reply so maybe later...

Lastly, u devs can change numbers around and everything else, im just throw them out here for u.

[quick coyote]

Yeah if it had native support itd be less of an issue so people dont have to go too third party hardware just play how they want. In turn would make it less appealing to go out and buy hardware that can mess with the game/hack it and instead just plug and play.

Also if they just implemented it properly without aim assist then I see no issues. Obviously if there is aim assist on mouse and key thats a problem.

[devout sapphire]

#game-announcements message with new fix, my contracts aren't getting updated. contacted support about it tho. anyone else having an issue of new contracts not progressing?

[merry totem]

Sorry to be self-indulgent here but continuing the thought on depth vs. breadth: ...(2) If balancing is dang near impossible, maybe lean into it. Rather than add more (what some people are calling 'gimmicky') weapons, gadgets, and specializations, play around and experiment lots more with the existing ones. It's a virtual game show, yolks are free to justify anything within that concept. Then the whole idea is that the game show is constantly changing and there is no expectation of some stable, 'balanced' equilibrium (not that there ever is or can be, let's face it). Also, just like with new maps, getting new weapons, etc., is very cool and it would be sad if there were never new ones, but maybe rotate some in and out. E.g., if sniper ends up dominant to the bow, why add the bow - except if you also rotated out the sniper. Another thought, "nukes" might have been cool and fun as a two week thing. Not so cool as a forever thing, as we all found out. Just saying... (3) Fix cashout - I know you've already communicated that, which is awesome, and World Tour looks awesome, but it's interesting that the yolks were worried about experimenting with Cashout during the season. Yolks were worried ranked players wouldn't stand for the game constantly being changed up on them. An alternative, though, would have been to test that hypothesis and instead lean into the experimentation, as long as it’s broadcast up front and transparent. Yolks could change things up meaningfully within the mode every two weeks with a patch and just say it's part of the game, then when they see things that work really well, return to them more often or make them standard, and things that are broken, either fix or reject them. (one final thought to go...)

[jagged cedar]

really hoping that melee lunge is given a toggle in s3. I should have control over my inputs without the game taking over. You can see on my first two stabs how my dash is mitigated because melee lunge is dragging me into the opposite player that I am aiming for. I should have control over my own inputs, especially with a precise weapon like dagger.

[elder folio]

Excellent argument, senator. How bout you back it up with a source?

[timber hazel]

I just wanna say. Thank you for adding the chef outfit I been whining about.

And not to be ungrateful but

Bunny suit next please
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[torpid pine]

Thanks for the bow in S3!
Can’t wait

[vernal swallow]

yo we need an atmosphere revamp, the gameshow aspect of this game is amazing I need more of the backround announcer and the crowd going wild, I need them chanting and rooting for teams and everything else, also more side note but the coin effect should get revamped it’s so sick in the trailers but almost barely noticeable in game

[crystal umbra]

I will say that I like the intensity of the music designated for Terminal Attack.

I absolutely hate the downtime I have when I die in between matches.

If I could have my way I would make it so that you have to play with a designated "squad" in terminal attack.

A "company" if you will.

The better you do is the more sponsor drop you get from OSPUZE, issult, or whatever sponsors there are in the finals.

[olive vector]

MAKE THE XP MAG BIGGER PLEEEEASE 😁🤘

[formal elm]

Knives are a little out of hand…

[cold bolt]

>be me, rank 300 in finals
>lose a single game second round
>be me, rank 700 in finals

[outer plover]

Terminal attack has turned into lights running around almost spawn killing and heavy or mediums staying on the platform and popping constant bubble shields and barriers

[merry totem]

Finally: ...(4) Simplify. An example would be the story, except that it may already be too late for that. Maybe too "obvious" and “boring,” but I bet we could have just done the Cashout game show thing for a long time, if not forever, and gone way deeper into that simple concept. People will say they love bank it, power shift, even TA, and I do, too, but only because you were kind enough to throw them into the game. But I wonder if a lot of the things people like about those modes might have just as easily been worked into variations on maps and cashout rules and features (although I'm only speculating, and also, there are ingrained expectations of gamers that maybe you have to kowtow to, which would be on us, the gamers). Similarly, CNS is awesome, but the storyline has definitely taken us away from Cashout (although maybe it didn’t have to)... Anyway, I accept how things are as they stand, but to go back to the original point, which is that I believe you’re artists, and naturally somewhat in the thrall of your beautiful but elaborate story, vision, and creativity. I respect it, it's your prerogative as the devs, but it just feels to me like the game is, let’s say, sprawling, especially now, and that could play a role. If a friend asked me, “Hey, what’s The Finals about?” I’m not sure I’d know how to answer them at this point. Maybe The Finals doesn’t have to follow the same recipe as other shooters, and it would be okay to be able to say, “The Finals is this game show where you play Cashout. The Finals is Cashout. Cashout is The Finals (but with lots of variation).” Maybe that’s where you’re taking us, anyway, in seasons to come. Again, thanks for the great game (really, that’s first and foremost), and thanks for taking so much player feedback. Best wishes for S3!

[tall crag]

Completely agree, it’s what brought people to the game in the first place. If I wanted to play siege I would’ve played siege

[mortal owl]

i whould love a few more loadout slots so i can have difrent loadouts for my diffrent wepons ready to go. also im weird and i like to styleise my charictor over there wepons so it whould help with that a lot as well. i just think it whould be a gret quality improvement with all the new wepons and gadgets that are coming we arent limited to 6 premade loadouts

[stark notch]

would turning off melee aim assist in the options help?

[jagged cedar]

turning off melee aim assist weakens the lunge but doesnt turn it off.

[crystal umbra]

Day 1 of me asking you to buff my bow.

[warm glen]

how cool would it be to be able to have your charcter sponsored by specific companies like Haltow or Ozpooze etc, getting exclusive gear for the sponsor you chose or the rrequirments you complete that, that specific sponsor needs

[naive fulcrum]

In ranked you should only be able to queue with people one rank above and below you, being put in a match with a diamond boosting some random silver or bronze only to make it impact our elo because the match elo is far lower than our current rank meaning if you lose you're heavily punished for one silver or bronze being in your lobby even if you don't interact or that team doesn't pass to the next round

[cold bolt]

ngl games like these are why cash out isn't succeeding lol

that said I don't think walmart snd (TA) will succeed either

and no, the 2nd place team didn't have a "better strategy", they just had the fortune of being the worst team in the lobby so we took them with us

[tidal lily]

^ just finished a game, P2 P2 D4 group going up against D1 D2 D2, with the D1 being 300ish in the world. A game like that isn't even worth creating; it's frustrating for the players, and it tells the ELO system nothing that a high ranked team beat a much lower ranked one, it's the expected outcome.

[scenic geode]

How do you post a msg to the eggmail? Got a unique idea for a game mode.

[languid cloud]

post match survey thing should include an option "spawn points were ass, there's no way we could have reclaimed that after spawning in narnia"

[late cobalt]

If they fixed ranked there would be insane queue times already takes 5 min+ just to get into a game nobody wants to play ts

[grim patrol]

Heal beam needs a nerf, I think honestly just reducing the rate at which it heals or the capacity would be enough. As a lower rate would let you outpace the healing, and a lower capacity would mean chunking through less health before it's drained, like 2 heal beams on a heavy are nearly impossible to kill without pure headshots, and targeting the healers isn't an option when they can heal each other and you still have the heavy to worry about, regardless 2 healbeams on a heavy is 1050 health you have to get through not including a mesh or dome shield, and if they duck out of the fight to cool their beams.

[tall crag]

Don’t you dare take away my heal beam 😂

[tough merlin]

dw it just got taken away, cause it can't be used in terminal attack which is now the main "ranked" mode! (I know it can be used other places!)

[half iris]

GAME IS STILL FCKED WITH LIGHT C%$TS

[unique blaze]

You know it's based on your opponents skill also right? There's a hidden calculation based on opponent skill which modifies your gains/losses... If you are say, skilled at 1000, but every single opponent is only skill 100, you'd get say 1 up arrow. If they were skilled at 1000, and you skilled at 100, you'd get 3 up arrows.

TLDR Not all wins are equal, and so aren't treated as such.

[arctic bramble]

MAKE ORBITAL LASERS SEE THROUGH
Playing Sniper with light class orbital lazer event active, I can't aim in for 2 seconds to line up a shot because the beam covers my entire sight. I don't have a problem with the event just not being able to see at all makes it very difficult as a sniper when its active

[mortal geyser]

It would be cool if this upcoming tournament is considered canon and the streamers represent the team in game e.g. "I always like the Vouges because it reminds me of my favorite streamer". It would be neat to hear a mention in the voice lines like "This is like that one time xxx happened"

[clear cloak]

7 MONTHS and "press space to respawn" still doesn't work if you rebind space, this is ridiculous

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[outer juniper]

I think a tdm type mode would be really good for the game

[crystal umbra]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

EMBARK. Fix this bullshit TODAY

[quick coyote]

Quick melee & spam switch weapon; infinite reload bug but for the throwing knives

[torpid pine]

Whew gotta be honest here…just went through the roughest back to back to back set of turds on voice chat yet in ranked.

3 games back, guy gets on talking about I went to platinum in beta. Trying to tell the rest of the team how good he is entire game, how to play the game, and wouldn’t focus on the actual game.

2 games back, before we even start the game in the lobby the other 2, playing together, start talking trash to me calling me gay and telling me I suck. Legit, BEFORE, we even started and I ended up with more kills.

Last game had a guy call me a muppet because he tagged the wrong cash out when I was ahead of him and then unilaterally went to the other one and then yelled when he died instantly after putting in the box. Other teammate screaming at the other dude. Let me tell ya, it was SUPER productive of my time to play.

Super fun to hear young kids cuss for zero reason and complain about everything and talk trash for zero reason but not do any better.

If you play and get on voice chat, try to act like a teammate and not an absolute turd at life.

[charred scroll]

git gud scrub

[haughty pebble]

Honestly this game is fun but they don’t care for the competitive community at all and it shows they only cater to the casual gamers I’m assuming that must be the majority of players because why else would they alienate half of the community just to please the other half

[quick coyote]

remove snipers from powershift no one wants these peds on their team and no one wants to play against them

[tall crag]

I don’t understand trying to make the game like siege, I get it’s big right now but cash out ranked is what made the game. I understand wanting to play powershift and TA but if you wanted to make TA ranked, there’s nothing wrong with having more than one ranked mode

[hollow dune]

for the love of God can y'all just remove defibrillators because dumbass people are not using them

[frank sonnet]

Yall are doing the right think making TA the current competitive mode, as long as your experimenting with cashout during this season. I can see the issues that would have been caused adding changes to cashout with it being the primary competitive mode.

[half iris]

You tried to make something good by making it so unbalanced it should balance it self, unfortunately most human beings are weak and go for the easiest route posible, they are bound by principles of electrons, its just a game full of overpowered teams, stacked classes, and utter cr4p game play now. You can fix it, by making all the weapons and classes equal to restore some 'actual skill' cause right now its just HHH or LLL - this is not fun to do, or be receiving. Its just boring. And replies like skill issue are just ppl who do this. W2nk3rs whod rather ruin a game than play a game properly - thats who u favor over real gamers. The fact there is 9 lights in a game is not my issue, its an issue with the fundamentals. This feedback is for the game devs, not random pr!cks on discord who mean fk all. The fact I have 250HP and the enemy can deal 370damage is not a skill issue, there are 9 of the c^$ts. Anytime u do well aginst these players, they leave the match cause u mist be cheating, the issue pairing players weith BOTs. Just because their human doesnt mean they're players. theyre trash players. And u seem to favour them over actual gamers. The lights have oneshot weapons or weapons that give no directional feedback or weapons with ridiclous fire rate + mag cap. Thats not a class, its a scape goat. Allowing that paired with invisi, ez win. Then there is heavy, rocket launcher and LMG that fires forever and u dont even need to aim well. Or a shoulder nudge. The crap is all geared towward H and L. Medium may as well be deleted.

[abstract rose]

nerf light

[cedar junco]

what time is the update

[nova kernel]

Roughly 8hrs from now

[untold locust]

I understand f2p increases community count and brings more money; but it's also an easy restart for anyone with a banned account. $1 is a very reasonable price for the game, and it would give financial incentive not to cheat 🤑

[molten trail]

i love aimbot turret for mediums. take one foot out and -50 dmg 🤡

[plain igloo]

those are the worst thing, but they aint that bad if u focused them

[craggy sparrow]

Hey Embark! I have heard a lot of negative stuff about the new ranked system being terminal attack, and wanted to put forth an idea where you just have it on a rotation. Like maybe for 2 hours it is cashout and then have a 5 min. rest period where the players can vote for what ever mode they want next. This would make everyone happy? Or maybe just put it on a rotation. Anyway, amazing game and keep up the good work!! (plz nerf sniper)

[round lagoon]

Please gimme back my circuit progress 🙏

[jagged cedar]

have you tried shooting the lights

[neat solstice]

Honestly I see where your coming from count. But keep this in mind, terminal attack would be great in a ranked setting if it was coupled with another two game modes with 5 players having power shift being one of em. Also if your asking to nerf snipers (please embark don't) we all understand your frustration but on the other hand the sniper is not easy to use an it's balanced in my opinion. Yes it's annoying having 4 snipers on one team on a game of power shift so I can see a limit of only two snipers permitted in a game of power shift as well. In the end I'm in favor of the sniper being left alone. You just have to accept that the people using the sniper nowadays are just a skilled player within their shots. That's where teamwork comes in. "Obj can't be taken without eyes on sniper" that's my teams rules. I can see another game mode coming in an taking the game by storm which would help with having a team of 5 for 3 game modes an having 2 of those members be certified substitutes if needed for that Game if cashout.

[grim patrol]

I think a reverse damage falloff could be an interesting way to make sniper less frustrating to deal with, where they have less damage at closer ranges and more at longer ranges, making pushing a sniper a viable option instead of guaranteed death because they can noscope you point blank after plinking you on approach

[deft geode]

Just saw a recent video on winch claw interactions - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2DNlzM9cW4

Is there a reason why the winch claw goes through riot shields? This behaviour seems to be inconsistent as riot shield has incidenary grenades "stick" to them as if its a surface, if this is the case should the winch claw not just bounce off?

[arctic tartan]

I got some data from games on my 2 accounts, shadowban seems to be a thing game just doesnt want you to rank up tbh. Just played with friend who both were P4 at start, ended the night with them on diamond 4 and I started from P1 rank 34k and went like 300 ranks up on whole night(we won like 8 out of 15 games probly 3 round1 losses)

Account 1: Playtime: 23h from bronze4 to diamond 4, rank from 500k to 19k. 142 matches(including the casual matches to unlock ranked), winrate 64,71. KD 2.07 Cashouts 3.2m, damage 398k

Account 2: Playtime 35h from plat1 to plat1, rank from 34.4k to 33.7k. 203 matches, winrate 67.72, KD 1.92. Cashouts 5.5m, damage 440k.

Skill issue probly, dont think there is anything wrong with my account

[uncut leaf]

Hello guys i am new to this games and ive been playing this game for past couple of weeks, been facing some serious issue with jitter, packet loss and poor connection management of this game, the issues made my fps drop pretty hard and even crashed the game. There was some point where it crashed the registry file due to the game crashed and restarted the pc, after that crash my pc regularly having blue screen which mostly tells about corrupted memory and serious fps drop from 100 to 40fps not only for the finals but in all games. I fixed the blue screen issues by reinstalling windows and right now i was able to play the game normally. I track down what is causing this issue and i found that this is mostly connection issue and bad game response due to my bad connection, because when the bad connection happens the game suffer fps drop and tearing as if it is about to crash.

it is unlike any other that i've been playing where the connection issues did not cause any serious damage like this game, ive been playing overwatch 2, apex legends, and any other online games by far this game has the worst bad connection management. I was wondering if there is any Devs here who can listen to my complaints and fix this issues thankyou.

If you guys wonder my build it is
Ryzen 5 4600g 16gb ram
rx580 8gb
Nvme m.2 ssd
Msi mag 550w 80+ power supply

i am using pretty potato pc but it should be enough as im playing in low setting and regularly hit 80-100fps

[late cobalt]

I have a feeling they don’t read ts and they let people yap here instead of making reviews calling the game trash

[upper citrus]

@slow zenith listen to this video its important

[scarlet reef]

NERF THE FUCKING THROWING KNIFE

[vernal swallow]

yo devs can we get a gameshow atmosphere rework, the gameshow aspect is so sick but I need more of it 🔥🔥 (like highlights and ads on those billboards, and the crowd cheering for teams)

[gritty umbra]

legitimately happy cashout is gonna be worked on. onr team getting free cashouts everytime is fucking infuriating when your team only wants to push what everyone else is pushing for some reason

[thorn kelp]

Skill issue

[safe magnet]

Fix teammates. There is no reason to why I should be waiting in the lobby for minutes just to get queued up with delinquents and get punished for it.

[pulsar aspen]

please nerf the heavys bru🙏🙏😭

[winged cargo]

god this channel and some of the people on here are so braindead

[snow axle]

i feel you, they just come here after one bad match asking to delete a class lol

[thorny parcel]

Please don't murder melees in season 3 Embark. Just let them cancel their animations with anything so we don't have to gadget swap cancel to compete with guns.

[somber axle]

Nah

[split python]

nice

[quick coyote]

keep cashout ranked

[sinful vessel]

Develop the game with player feedback weighing more than analytics/telemetry. If its not the case then disregard this, but it certainly seems like analytics outweighs feedback when making decisions

[upper citrus]

Or just buff the weapons and remove the lame tech so they can be viable without annoying new players and requiring new players to watch videos on how to use them

[queen shale]

are we going to see a turret nerf after what they did to rpg?

[brittle obsidian]

Couldn't help but notice that we're still limited to 6 contestants in the build of the game Oscar was showcasing. We desperately need more slots, we can't even have 1 per specialization.

[tender zealot]

does anyone know how to purchase battle pass levels? Ive done all the challanges but am 3 tiers away from completing the battle pass

[crystal umbra]

Starting to feel sorry for the teams in charge of making new wepons and adding them to the game.

All that work for them to be underpowered and not picked at all.

Remember the burst pistol? Me neither.

[lyric seal]

PLEASE ADD A MULLET AND MUSTACHE COMBO I LOVE THE RETRO VIBES FROM THIS SEASON

We already got the perfect shades for it, and cool jackets
All we need are some sick high top shoes 😎

[stone temple]

YES

[graceful fractal]

which other weapons do you feel are underpowered?

[glass sequoia]

There are no fidget toy throwing knives.

Why even play the game?

[pulsar aspen]

the semi auto pistol on light

[candid flower]

Heavy need a heavy nerf👍

[slow anchor]

Embark u F'd up my Pro Circuit I was 2 levels away from unlocking the mask

[lyric seal]

Add mullet and mustache and all is forgiven embark

[swift lagoon]

ahhhh i love my nice not cheater at all srsly there's never cheaters and they are always nice 🙃

[sudden tangle]

Revert heavy nuke nerfs!!! Heavy so weak!!!

[misty brook]

Which embark developer thought this rank was a good idea I went from 3 up arrow to 1 up arrow by winning the first round and getting 3rd the second round and yet I still didn't rank up like bro I only got today to hit diamond and I cant because stupid rank system embark made. Even apex legends has a better rank system then the finals

[drowsy storm]

why is my team of 2 golds up against a team of 3 diamonds

[pulsar aspen]

real!1!!1

[grave ginkgo]

silver 1 3 arrows toward gold > win next game finals > still silver 1?

[junior temple]

It's going away next season

[crystal umbra]

Buff th cashbox. I wanna see more cashbox kills.

[rough dune]

i would love it if we could save cosmetic loadouts as presets. I tend to use the same outfit on all 6 slots and it takes forever to update when changing it around

[thorn kelp]

HELL NAH 🗣🔥

[misty brook]

Yeah sure it'll be going away but I still want the skin from rank because i can't get it next season

[molten trail]

Ur right bro heavy needs even more insta kill mechanics that requires negative brain power to pull off

[stuck cliff]

Ok so:

• why is the final round presented to players as "Final Round" and not "The Finals"
• why call the new ranked points "RS" instead of "Fame"
  🤔

I would also really love to see style profiles so you can easily save an outfit and apply it to contestants
Same for weapon / gadget styles 😎

[unborn crest]

I don't know what yall did to the knives but I'm uninstalling until that's fixed.

[quick coyote]

This game have the most horrible ranked system

[sonic spoke]

The contract fiasco really put a damper on the end of the season. 😞

[lime forge]

I love this game a ton. The idea behind this game is brilliant, but the combat imo needs a lot more polish. You only have 2 mins to capture a cashout. So things in this game needs to be a little more fast pace. The game should have harsher ways to punish. So my Idea is:
Have the option to bring a second weapon instead of another gadget (so either bring 2 weapons and 2 gadgets, or 1 weapon and 3 gadgets)

Also here are some ideas for specializations
||Specializations for light:

healing/anti-heal dart - has a 15 second cooldown that heals friendlies for 100 health, or hit enemies with 100 damage, and disallow healing.

Position exchange - has a 20 second cooldown. Player has to be touching ground. Can only reach 15 meters. The user and the player targeted exchange position.

Specializations for medium:

Bring Back X-Ray! - Make it a cooldown of 15 seconds that only allows you to see heat signatures of enemies in the direction youre looking for 2 seconds.

Barrel grabbing device - allows you to store 3 barrels in the device

Specialization for heavy:

Tesla Cannon - 25 second cooldown. loud 2 second charge time 20 meter range, deals 200 damage and chains dealing 75 damage to chained enemies.||

Also gadgets
||Gadgets for light:

Hacking device - allows you to hack devices and capture point from 6 meters.

Gadget for medium:

Healing spray - Can have 2 cans. Each healing only 50 health slightly faster than the healing gun. short range. Can be used on yourself.

Gadget for Heavy:

Time bomb: 6 seconds to detonate. Has loud ticking. sticks to surface. short-medium range throw.||

[cold bolt]

bro posted an SCP document

[brittle obsidian]

For semi-automatic weapons, it would be cool to have an option to hold down the fire button to shoot automatically at a slower rate of fire. I love the V9S but sometimes using it is painful.

[gritty wraith]

Customization Idea
VRoid-style hair editor, basically you can change hair strands/cards by curves that interpolate, so you can have custom hairstyles or make some hairstyles fit certain outfits, such as mask, and prevent clipping.

Could extend this editor idea to other sections too, but big thing rn is hair not fitting certain things

[bronze abyss]

can we add another charge to demat PLZ

[stray moth]

Would it be possible to add the option to reorder and rename contestant profiles?

[worn horizon]

Good news they buffed the fire rate of v9s in season 3

[naive fulcrum]

have your elo system be consistent
in no world does a team with a diamond 2 and a plat 2 in a diamond lobby, should the plat 2 lose MORE ELO than the diamond 2 when the team loses
the plat 2 got three arrows down while the diamond 2 got two. this makes no sense

[quick coyote]

the afk kick system sucks ass

[quick coyote]

Literraly

[rough herald]

Yes!!! Heavy the most powerful class need it most obnoxious insta kill back!!

[cosmic ether]

Heavy needs more instakills honestly, they should be able to kill players by merely glancing at them.

[autumn sedge]

Nerf rpg and charge and slam, or rework them to not leave people instantly 1-shottable

[rich galleon]

TO: Embark Community Managers/Devs @pearl kiln

A lengthy description of my point of view on why the Light class. in its current state, is not "a fit for purpose" for The Finals and might be contributing to its demise.

If we look at modern games with a limited number of classes, let's take Destiny and XDefiant as examples. In these games, we have classes that feature invisibility and sniper rifles. These abilities and weapons are designed to be counteracted by other classes, abilities, or weapons.

In Destiny, there is a class with three invisibility abilities to be used one by one. Nobody complains because there are cooldowns, and once you go invisible, your radar switches off, preventing you from becoming overpowered and dominating the entire lobby. Sniper rifles have only two shots, and you need to find an ammo brick. There is a dash ability in Destiny, but it doesn't belong to the invisibility class, and the dash distance is short.

In XDefiant, a sniper rifle can body shot anyone, and you can even go invisible with a sniper rifle!! Yet, there aren't many complaints about it. Why? Because it's easy to counter. XDefiant sniper rifles have very slow ADS, and with the game's TTK of 0.11s (3+ times faster then in The Finals) , you can kill a sniper while they are trying to aim at you. Invisibility can be easily countered with the ability that reveals everyone on the map even who was invisible. There is stun ability in XDefiant too, but it's not as directional as in The Finals

Both games have plenty of shotguns that can body shot anyone at close range, so invisibility can be counteracted with a shotgun if you catch a glimpse of anything suspicious around you. Both games have characters with the SAME hitbox.

Now, let's look at** The Finals **- it has the worst combination of these two examples. You have a class with invisibility (two uses) and two dashes__ at the same time__, and can stun others from behind. There is no radar, and being invisible has no penalty. Additionally, there is no weapon that can bodyshot a Light class (except a headshot, but good luck hitting the head of something you can't see) and hitbox for the light class appears smaller.

So, there is no counteraction to the Light class in a casual playlist with randoms. The way to counter is to play in a stack in slow mode where you can use gadgets revealing Lights or counter them in open space. In all other situations is a lost. In 1 vs 1 situation two players with the same skill level will always lose to the Light class, unless the Light is in disadvantages situation (in the open area)

And the final point - all other two classes in The Finals, as well as in most other games, have no abilities that require a 180-degree rotation hense most are playing on low sens. In The Finals, the Light class can dash with a massive leap distance, allowing them to zigzag back and forth around you in a 180-degree arc. Good luck aiming at them with anything.
So that's why the Light class is not "fit for purpose" in The Finals. When you get there, none of the skills you gained from other games work to counter the Light class.

You can definitely play the Light class and learn how to master its skills, but it won't be applicable to other games, as The Finals' Light class behavior is abnormal and not similar to any other games.

People just don't find it fun to learn skills that don't contribute to their overall FPS skillset. At least in games like XDefiant, Destiny, and Apex, the skills you acquire in one game are transferable to other games. But that's not the case with The Finals because of the Light class.
I haven't seen that amount of complains about 1 specific class in any other games, compared to the Light class in The Finals

[iron current]

Buff wrecking ball😭🙏

[jolly ridge]

server lag is insane right now

[gritty wraith]

Just use the goo gun and flamethrower, I’ve countered dozens of cocky lights that way. From a distance put a shield and goo on the top half and you can’t get shot. Think creatively man. In a 1v1 with same skill, a medium or heavy kills a light because they’re so low health, and you don’t have to peek them first man.

I understand where you’re coming from, and would actually suggest just removing sniper rifles all together. They’re never fun.

[sharp wind]

did I read that there were no complaints about the xdefiant sniping? yeah okay man

[rich galleon]

not at the level as for the Light class. it's easier to counter more then in 1 way. Recoil has been fixed as of today too, less then in 3 weeks. Unless you are hard scoping it's easier to counter. Snipers in XD is still OP, don't get me wrong, but closer map, faster TTK - you don't feel a complete lack of ways to deal with them. But, there are weapons with laser tag precision that allows to challenge snipers. You cannot challenge a sniper in The Finals with any weapons beyond 20meters, when there are open areas with 50-75 meters range for snipers

[quick coyote]

Yeah, if I see a team with light players I know I am going to get a load of free kills 😄 No clue how the class got through testing and people were like "Yeah, this seems fine and balanced"

[crystal umbra]

Sigh... I'll say it:

Can you please just launch new weapons in an overpowered state from now on.
We appreciate the new wepons per class but they are all launching weaker compared to the current meta.

Season 2 launched with two weapons that were lack luster. Why would you do that?

Dare to shake up the meta a bit. Encourage everybody to try out the new wepons that you dropped in our hands. Instead of buffing the LH1.

The bow is a "skill weapon". It's shiny and new. By time it's buffed and has a use case above the sniper rifle it will have lost its timeslot.

You guys wanna capture that lightning you had in the beta?

Well launch some fresh new shit like you did day one. Unbalanced but crazy over the top and FUN.

(Worry about fine tuning later in the mid season patch)

I'm watching the preview reactions from YouTubers and I'm seeing them all say the same damn thing. "Another season launching lack luster weapons with no reason to change the meta".

End this Habit. Buff season 3 weapons soon & let's not repeat this for season 4.

We care about the game so we are hard critics.
I'm also sick & tired of double Lewis gun

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

[formal elm]

THIS^^^

[mild ruin]

↑↑↑ this one, need more different weapons, not only 2-3 that is good, but not something changing at all. H still using lewis, mediums still using ak or hcar, lights sniper or submachine guns
i understand that make mesh of weapon is hard work to do, but still... simple deagle or barret for heavy for example. Some submachinegun for medium or dual pistols for light... need something to break meta

[junior wharf]

I'm actually so missed that the rewards for TA are so good because even though I'll try the game mode because I really want to enjoy it from what I've heard it's still shit and I don't play the finals for slow game play I play finals for the fast paced risky game of cash out and now if I want to play cash out I don't only get the tiniest rewards ever but also I miss out on my diamond luwie witch I've been praying for scince OB but now I have to play a game mode I hate if I want to get this one time item which I love please just let the rewards be shared to world tour and maybe have emerald instead of ruby I just hate being forced into playing TA and I'm genuinely thinking about leaving the game I really don't want to but I'm hating where this is going

[olive fulcrum]

I really hope I can continue to enjoy playing the Finals regularly after S3 drops.

If I can't, it was fun while it lasted and I wish Embark the best

[earnest badge]

Day 110 of wondering when some people will realise their insatiable dissatisfaction for things comes from within.

[trim ginkgo]

With the New Season getting ready to launch I can only Hope they did something to the Taser, Hoping for a Huge Nerf on the Taser

[rich galleon]

in our preview gameplay i personally didn't notice any changes to the taser. it appears intact

[floral rover]

potato graphics mode

[proven ibex]

I'M SAYING IT AGAIN... DEVS MUST STOP encouraging That TOXIC OTTR guy .

Yesterday in my office we were talking about gaming in free time and I was pretty excited to discuss Finals with my colleagues. I showed some clips in Xbox and they said it looking sick and they showed theirs from other games. One guy immediately went into YouTube to search more( I told them we're getting S3 in this week and asked them check the BP skins as a sample) and this Ottr guy showed up in recommendations as top content... He started shitting on devs in preview stream coz he's getting insta killed in TA by opponents, he's crying and yelling. My colleague immediately stopped watching it and asked me if the playerbase is too toxic like him. I strongly denied and asked him to check other Youtubers or join the discord.

If I'm a new player what I'm gonna do first? I'll search the game on YouTube.. and first Impression is the best impression always. I still don't get why did you guys do a stream with him. He's doing enough damage already. I know this is not serious and ignorable but it's a factor too coz everyone looks in YouTube first.

Edit: evryone was forced to play both TA n world tour but it totally depends on the content creator on how to behave. He's the most toxic YTr of this game, you can't change my mind. He plays in noob lobbies and shits on players and random teammates. If he has to play with experienced players, he gets instakilled coz of skill issue. Then he becomes toxic, rage quits the lobby. If I remember when we were watching the clip he started shitting on devs, game and rage quit the lobby n party like a crybaby. I'm mad only bcoz I couldn't convince them that this game is toxic free. Trust me, I keep on talking about this game wherever I go only because I may help to pull some new players who are gamers and I'm in a circle who talks a lot about games even though we have full-time jobs. And things like this will do enough damage and stop new players to jump in.

[rough igloo]

They were forced to play TA and he didn't enjoy it at all

[gritty wraith]

prob because hes playing like a total nerd, he should be using the goo gun and having fun being creative, not treating this game like any other fps

[gentle scarab]

my ass is begging for the s1 battle pass content to be available again as well as s2's when s3 arrives, to be bought or replayed

[wispy root]

can we get the ability to save and load outfits, maybe even with a share code

[rough herald]

heavy have so many tool to make people one shot-able its crazy
i don't play heavy but i feel like when ever heavy meet a light the only thing they think about is "what button i feel like pressing today"

@winged cargo if you throw enough shit at the wall eventually one will stick

[sullen raptor]

Throwing knives are broken now because they 2 shot medium

[void scarab]

i don't agree on the fact that 'weapons needs to be overbuffed'.
have you played recently?
everyone and their mum is playing Throwing Knives and we're all dropping like flies left and right, unless you play dash light with TK yourself..
heavy is having a hard time countering these unless you can make them stand still, ie. goo or if you can flank them with a sledge whilst running at the speed of a brick wall.

Some people might say 'skill issue', and yeah, it might be a bit of a skill issue on my end but that doesn't mean that a medium range headshot on a dashing light is healthy for the game

[winged cargo]

It's great that they have this channel but honestly how much can they even listen to? People are spamming this channel like no tomorrow, and a solid 80% of you are stupid as hell, demanding changes that obviously aren't gonna happen lol. You guys are just shouting into the abyss so.. I hope you're having fun at least

[zealous perch]

Not that your message here adds anything "feedback" related.

edit : that includes you too @timid pumice

[gaunt perch]

I believe they read a lot of it.

[gritty umbra]

does nobody remember mw 2019 627?? or overwatch releasing new heros that are op and broken?? generally hurts the llayerbase imo

[timid pumice]

Omg the amount of yappers in here is crazy, no one wants to read your dumb essays

[mild girder]

the ranking system in this game makes no sense how do i have all the highest stats in the lobby win the full tourney while being plat 1 up 3 and not rank up but win one round the next game and only be up 1 can you please bring back mmr showing so i know where im at @rugged temple okay didnt know thank you

[rugged temple]

Its literally being added tmr.

[quick coyote]

Re add cashout in ranked in S3 because that s not the finals but the valorant finals 😦

[coral burrow]

The aim assist in "The Finals" needs improvement for long-distance shots.

1. At further distances, the aim assist becomes noticeably less effective.
2. It feels like the aim assist just falls off completely.
3. This makes it hard to stay accurate and enjoy the game at longer ranges.

Improving this will make the gameplay smoother and more enjoyable for everyone.

Summary:

The aim assist feature in "The Finals" currently struggles with effectiveness over longer distances. Players have reported that as they try to engage targets further away, the aim assist starts to diminish significantly, making it challenging to maintain accuracy. This drop-off is abrupt, making it seem as though the aim assist is almost non-existent at these ranges.

This issue impacts the overall gaming experience by making long-range combat less satisfying and more frustrating. Players rely on aim assist to help balance the gameplay, and its current performance at greater distances undermines this balance. Enhancing the aim assist for long-range shots would provide a more consistent and enjoyable experience, ensuring players can rely on it regardless of the distance to their targets. This improvement would help maintain the game's competitive edge and keep players engaged and satisfied.

[latent girder]

yo hows it that i can win 2 games of tourny in a row in plat 1 and still not rank up to diamond??

[forest mason]

Give Heavy a Gravity Gun to move large building debris

[shell tiger]

u need like 5 wins

[fast basin]

its about to get worse

[finite briar]

nah they improved the rank system a lot. watch their most recent video

[rough herald]

Low Gravity event Fix Suggestion

**Note: **

• so whats bad about low grav? as a movement player i find low grav very annoying, yeah sure it make hard jump easier and impossible jump now possible but in combat it make jumping a death wish as it make you a very easy target when falling.
  (i have so many clip of me beaming people who use jump pad in low grav)

Suggestion:

• Remove it (boring)
• Do nothing (lame)
• Let me control how fast i fall by pressing the crouch button so jumping is now viable, and it make fight more interesting thx to more option of outplaying enemy gamer (pls?)

@queen ocean i don't think being annoying is the point man

[quick coyote]

Its cap, the rank system punished u for wining literally, i even got to the last match of a tournament and we lost and they took me three arrows, is basically ass

[queen ocean]

Everything you said, is the whole point of the Event, just btw.

[lime lichen]

If this patch doesn't come with some major heavy nerfs I'm 100% prepared to uninstall this shit

[stuck torrent]

ss3 when?

[winged cargo]

lol. another genius feedback message!!! @lime lichen nobody cares cya

[tawny pendant]

Please allow each character to apply a shortcut or setting separately. The settings are different for each character, so it's too cumbersome and inconvenient to change them every time I change them.

[round lagoon]

Have a real countdown timer until you can no longer complete the battlepass, I throught I still had an hour

[crystal umbra]

You missed the point. I reread what I said.

I'm not talking about weapons staying overpowered

I'm talking about one of this new seasons selling pints being FUN NEW WEPONS

Also, this is pretty embarrassing for you bro, you didn't read everything I said. (You might need a reading comprehension check). You took this as a personal attack when I'm talking about all new weapons including your fancy new Spear getting buffed.

I'll re explain just for you:

My point is that why would they try to excite us with new weapons that are not going to be overpowered.

I am explaining that the weapons that are launched day one like the dual katanas and the spear are underperforming.
(Tune them all down during the season)

The same thing for season 2. We got three new weapons. Then we went right back to the same weapons we always used

Also yes, your response shows that you are experiencing a skill issue. If you play in plat+ you see every other tournament winner running MMH - Double Mesh - Double Dome - Rocket Launcher - Defib - Heal beam.
But you probably noticed yourself that my mention of a lewis gun went over your head.
Somewhat of an inside joke from your perspective it seems.

The LH1 got buffed but we want to see the new damn light weapon do well rather than the LH1.

We waited to see what the new weapons were going to be like and now we know - once again - that they are not meta shakers.

[twilit cobalt]

please nerf the throwing knives this is breaking your game (one shot lights) (two shot med) (three shot heavy)

[shy swan]

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAASE

BETTER MOUSE SENSITIVITY SETTINGS!!!!!!

[ornate sandal]

I do have a few request for the finals the 1st is nerfing the flame thrower its very annoying to play against like it can be reducing the max ammo capacity or reducing its range ide also think that because the season 3 battlepass is asia themed then i think kunai skin for the throwing knifes or a shuriken weapon also i feel like spider man when ever i use the grappling hook for the medium so i think it would be cool to have a outfit which would be a legaly destinct spider man outfit and finaly could yall make it so that for every bundle both existing and non existing you can buy individual items instead of the entire thing if you only want 1 item

[warm crypt]

Yeah same I was 1 challenge close to getting the AK skin

[rich galleon]

The Terminal Attack in Ranking IS a good thing. It might not be a popular opinion, but it's a necessary change to make the ranking event fair.

As of Season 2, the Cashout in Ranked required a change - the only fair game there was the final round when you had 2 teams. In other situations, you had more than 2 teams, and your winning rate was less about skill and more about whether the other 2 teams fought each other or came to your cashout station, leaving you unchallenged.

I personally think it was NOT a balanced ranking mode and NOT a true indication of your skills. How can you improve or sharpen your FPS skills if half of the ranking game is spent winning because you sat barricaded at cashout stations without anyone challenging you?

TA is a more genuine approach to measuring your skills - you play thoughtfully, use limited non-reviving abilities, and face only one opponent team. It's a true measurement of your gun play and situation awareness.
I don't understand the fuss about TA - nobody forces you to play it. If you want some badges to show off without being sweaty, play World Tour.

But if you want a true pinnacle measure of your skills and want to become better, TA is the right direction, as far as I see it.

[finite briar]

hmmmmmmmm: https://youtu.be/T-KqAukTbkY
take a look at this

[coral burrow]

The melee weapons in "The Finals" are currently too strong.

Many players, regardless of their character type, can get one-shotted, even those with high HP.
This makes the game feel unbalanced and frustrating for a wide range of players.
Adjusting the strength of melee weapons will create a fairer and more enjoyable gameplay experience for everyone.

Summary:

The melee weapons in "The Finals" are overly powerful, resulting in many players being one-shotted, regardless of their character's HP. This imbalance makes the game feel unfair and frustrating for a wide range of players, as it disrupts the intended balance between different playstyles and character types.

The current state of melee weapons skews the gameplay, making certain strategies overly dominant and reducing the overall enjoyment of the game. By adjusting the strength of these weapons, the game can offer a more balanced and engaging experience.

[ebon peak]

It is not valorant or CS at all,, it is a traditional SnD type of mode!!

[foggy ginkgo]

No. leave S&D to other games that’s not why majority of the player base comes to The Finals. And@ebon peak it is basically CS and Val😂😂 nobody wants to play that in the finals and the ones who do are a very small percentage.

[astral axle]

MOUSE AND KEYBOARD ON XBOX PLS (fire game and season btw)

[mint lintel]

3:30 hours till season 3 (give or take an hour). JAPAN HERE WE COME

[graceful flume]

Melee weapons can only do damage when you're all up in your enemy's face and can't do any damage over range, and that's already a massive L to take if you're playing in high elo, and if they get nerfed and are unable to deal consistent damage using melee is essentially throwing

advice: stick close to ur teammate to beam that flying sword light and learn to deal damage while running away

[sturdy pawn]

The Finals Season 1 was golden. 🥇
You saw your ranked progression and everything was nice and clear.

Season 2 they started hiding your progression and showing completely random arrows up and down which had absolutly no meaning.

I spoke with so many people that were hard-stuck Plat 1 and had to win 3-5 games in succession to even have a slight chance to hit Diamond.

Hiding the progression is evil, only reason is to keep you grinding blindly forever.
Is this really the only way you can keep players in the game Embark? 🤔
Why not make it a fun and clear journey instead of a blind endless grind?

[mellow goblet]

Can we please bring back cashout in ranked. I know ta is populair and sometimes better for new players or skills but cashout makes the finals unique I never played something like that in a other games. With ta u can play the mode that is simulator in a lot of games but cash out is different and now ur taking it away in ranked

[rough herald]

Heavy Health issue (won't be much of a problem if not the high dps)

doom 300 hp
shield 750 hp
barricade 1000~ hp
heavy himself 350 hp

Too kill a heavy throw all his defenses you need to do... oh god. 2,400 Damage
(im not including goo because barely anyone use it, can't say the same for heals)
. even for M60, a gun known for it high total damage per mag will take it a mag and a half which is 15~ second

[rich galleon]

Not sure what's your point. How is it different to cashout to cap respawn points?
I'm not saying TA is ideal. There are things to improve, but it's the right direction to give ranking a fair skill measurement. Maps definitely can be improved and designed for TA specifically.

[deep flame]

Pls make a TDM/FFA Mode only for killing! Unfortunately there are so many Players in rounds, always going for kills and not playing on objectives. Its super annoying.

40% of my Games I see people ignoring the cashbox for minutes. They are only fighting and killing each other, without playing the main objective.

[granite ravine]

Isn't this basically Bank it?

[high wing]

HonoredPro#7376 new account with cheat to carry his friends

[dapper lagoon]

im one of those Plat 1 was like 2 wins for diamond now im dropped at low plat 2

[waxen verge]

did you not watch their video on the new ranked score system or something

[oak sable]

good

[prime wing]

anybody who was a serious contender for the finals ranked or competitive play was gone after s1. I doubt anything from then till now would bring those players back in especially concerning ranked changes

[ebon peak]

Rainbow, Val and CS may have attack and defend tag in common, however, the gameplay mechanics are very different. Similarly Finals is trying to do something unique with adding the Attack and defence mode with the finals gameplay twist, I don't love it but I will also not hate it until I play 100 ranked matches. I believe in Embark and they will surely deliver 🔥

[bleak coral]

exactly

[coral burrow]

I understand your point about melee weapons only being effective at close range, but I completely disagree with the idea that they are balanced as they are. The game has several mechanics, like the invisibility and dash skills, that make it far too easy for players to close the gap and deliver devastating melee hits.

1. The invisibility skill allows players to get close without being seen, making it almost impossible to prepare for or counter a melee attack.
2. The dash skill lets players quickly close the distance and strike before you can react, adding to the imbalance.

These abilities make melee weapons disproportionately powerful, especially when players can one-shot others regardless of their health. This creates a frustrating experience for many players who can't effectively counter these sudden, high-damage attacks.

Balancing melee weapons to reduce their one-shot capability while considering these powerful movement and stealth skills would create a more fair and enjoyable game environment for everyone. It's important to have a balanced game where all playstyles have viable counters, and currently, the melee meta disrupts this balance.

[mild ruin]

wanna see smartest (nope) people of this game? go to steam discussion 😂

[torpid sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBlbl3BtmiE
the like to dislike ratio is insane. The whole video is just downsides about the new season, focusing on ranked and how op the heavy is becoming/already was. And everyone is agreeing. This season is dead in the water before it even started.

[quick coyote]

Is update live yet?

[crystal umbra]

Wen Xbox season 3?

[dusk harbor]

i didnt see update in steam

[snow olive]

restart steam

[daring fossil]

big oof on nerfing breach charge damage. As it is right now I get maybe 1 kill every 20 matches with it using it as a trap.

Also, changing the season 3 starter pack to be real money only after having it cost multibucks for the first 2 seasons is fucking scummy as hell. I bought multibucks a week ago in preparation for this season, now I need to spend more money if I want the starter pass, which I will probably pass on now because of this.

[nocturne fern]

so we didnt even fix any of the main issues... cool

[drowsy cargo]

Revolver 😞

[lime lichen]

No revolver buff?? No RPG nerf???? Man I hope this is the last season we get

[silk cloud]

AK now has 22 different skins (lol) 15 of which are premium. Do we really need that many AK skins? Most weapons only have a couple of options. The FAMAS, for example, has only 6 alternate skins. The MGL32 grenade launcher has 5, and the light Sword has 6. Maybe we create some interesting alternate skins for a gun that isn't a boring AR?

[static wolf]

whoever said nerf m60 needs to get taken out of a fucking job and blacklisted from game balance decisions. literally sped decision

[sturdy pawn]

No, what do you mean? Do you have a link?
Since no one knows what they've been cooking up in the MMR system, I don't think that video will reveal anything useful. I'm pretty sure this is a stunt in the League of Legens grindy MMR direction, which most games aim to go for to create this gambling feeling of "I'm so close to ranking up" while in reality they just want to keep engagement and active players to not have the game die out.

For the company it makes sense to keep their players grinding to eventually buy skins and such, but on the other hand it makes the game more frustrating, which is very unfortunate that it has to be that way.

[high wing]

Well these patch notes are a huge failure. It's lacking the most fundemental changes this game needs.

• No updated servers or improved netcode, meaning desync/delay is still there which can be up to 1 second if not more
• No improvements to hit-registration, meaning sometimes your shots/hit just does nothing
• Game did not recieve any improved optimization, meaning it still runs like shit even if everything is on low
• No fix for crash to desktop
• No fix for PC crashing
• No fix for unable to do any action like using a zipline or attacking
• No fix for the parkour which still is unreliable and buggy
• Still not banning cheaters permamently
• No fix for the respawn system which in most cases gives advantage to respawning team
• Store credits still doesnt show real value of the price in euro or you local currency
• No more in depth profiles with match history and stats
• Still can't see other players steam profile
• No specific keybindings for each class and loadout
• No setting for default skins in equipment menu
• No fix for sword/melee abusers, can still sword attack and quick attack, and emote/gadget switching for infinite dmg
• No UI for ping/latency
• Not removing aim assist from PC lobbies
• No improvement on stats on weapons and gadgets

Seriously wtf are the developers doing?

All we get is a new map to suffer on.

[topaz swallow]

Cashout should stay as a ranked mode, why force 50% of the community to play a gamemode they dont like just to cater to the other 50% that wouldnt have minded normal ranked cashout to begin with

[mellow goblet]

Thank you

[hardy bridge]

If you hate the game that much stop playing

[waxen verge]

https://youtu.be/5B8bkfjzDoo?si=bZzCaefHJIf6m2uq

[blissful bridge]

INCREASE CREATED CHARACTER SLOTS FROM 6 TO 9 !!!

[queen ocean]

Ingame chat is not working SERVER ERROR CODE

[fallow sedge]

Text chat works for me, im getting a gui issue sometimes when someone leaves where a big red bar stays up. new map is sick

[sullen raptor]

Its good embark acknowledged the career bug, but, I'm gonna be honest, the fix sucked. I was ONLY 100 HEADSHOT DAMAGE AWAY from the ak skin. I got off the night before the bug thinking that I could just do it in the morning. The fix (if you can call it that) didn't change anything to my knowledge. I still can only access challenger and rookie circuits, theres no way they were expecting us to grind through that. I thought the obvious change would just be to give the rewards to everybody who logged in for the last couple days of the season. If that sounds crazy, tons of other game do that when they mess up big time, which is exactly what Embark did. I'm sorry this sounds so attacking, but this is actually terrible.

[static flume]

There are no rewards for ranked TA? And only multibucks for WorldTour? Or i misunderstanding smthng

[rancid cloud]

Excited to play season 3!!! Sad there’s no option to pick songs from Season 1 to play. I think it’d be cool to handpick songs from different seasons to play randomly in menus and during matchmaking.

[quick coyote]

Thank you that’s it thank u

[glossy sun]

did you read the update they said if you are affected you can contack support i don't think they will dissapoint you

[quick coyote]

starter pack is locked behind 10$ instead of multibucks :( cant use our saved bucks, not a very good change, that is all, season is good otherwise

[pseudo breach]

I agree. Scummy as fuck move. I'll probably be skipping it as well

[teal minnow]

It is still the base gamemode ,they are reworking it. Let them make the gamemode better cus it had A LOT of problems

[thin oar]

Regarding the patchnotes: everything is great, many good decisions there!
Gg embark

[wispy steeple]

please add an update where you can complete last season's circuits

[stray wing]

Fr, really good Patchworks

[wind copper]

Why not make two gamemode, one expermintal cashout aka world tour and ranked cashout

[cerulean finch]

Anyone’s audio all messed up now? Can barely here when enemy get cash out

[acoustic gust]

No video tutorial on the new specialization? Like why