👂┇game-feedback

[hollow valve]

Yes completely agree. Hand and a half sword(a little too long) or arming sword plus rectangle shield (Pavise Shield) would persuade me buying more multi bucks and mocking my adversaries of their so-uncivilized firearms.
https://swordis.com/blog/hand-and-a-half-sword/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavise

PS please have beautiful paint on the shield.

[queen cloud]

yes. This game is pc first. But all the consoles combined should be close to the pc numbers alone.
And aimassist is really strong on console after the recent changes. To the point average console player outbems most average pc mnk/controller players.
But good pc players will still outaim most console. This is because strafes in this game are VERY slow to change directions unlike overwatch or other games. Soo rotational aimassist reacting at 0ms with that smooth eficient movement is not op like those other games.
You also don't need to flick on direction changes on mnk and can be smooth and 100% accurate since again, game has slow direction changes.

[pliant raptor]

Just a small ask

Can we get independent voice options? I.e not having them tied to faces. Well, kinda have them tied to them. E.g. if you get a new face maybe have a voice option that corresponds but can be used on any appearance

[quick coyote]

Nerf Charge please

[livid summit]

Bro what r u talking about, I play Xbox and i guess it like tries to match make based on ur system cuz like 75% I face are also console and the rest are pc and I’m definitely not facing the same players

[quick coyote]

fix game crashes and improve ranked system playing with gold vs diamond WTF https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239670903030415411/1247496992192467015/image.png?ex=66603d9c&is=665eec1c&hm=53697155686fced5b63aa86f9c2d3d2738431c229a958a4380a6f86055bfa81c& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239670903030415411/1247492398615887883/image.png?ex=66603955&is=665ee7d5&hm=30ffb3c47cb7d92de18c56e9dbf445529c419b5a4831ccba7426a6c0532c9f0c&
add 50% health to the team if 1 players is not in the game or afk

[stark venture]

Day 3 of asking for a Tekken style JUKEBOX!
Also can we get sugar free ospuze

[lofty coyote]

I face the same players a lot , especially when it's an Xbox only lobby. I would turn off crossplay if that wasn't the case. Sbmm shouldn't be in casual gamemodes

[rough herald]

can we not make everything do 90% of light health pls?
its annoying as fck and yeah i can dodge it, yeah i can play around it, yeah my teammate can do something about it
but ffs why dose it need to do 90% of light health in the first place?

@sharp briar you know leaving me at one hp is still basically a one shot right? when i survived form that it is just pure luck

[sharp briar]

Each class is meant to have its weaknesses

[copper sphinx]

i'd like this aswell. genderneutral faces like the crash dummy are tied to a male voice which feels kinda limiting

[plain fern]

I would love to have a option where you can save your outfit presets and change em how you like instead of changing every gear

[rough herald]

@feral osprey burn the succubus in hell fire

[hollow valve]

This would be an interesting tech implementation. Use AI to learn your voice model and generate your voice. But this is very resource demanding both in-game and for the studio. If this rolls out I guess I would still use the default voice since I'm just here to play the game.

Actually I feel they should cancel all contestants voice call out in the game but give every type of ping a unique sound. Then use mic for the voice. Every choice is a reflection of a person's character, even disabling mic.

[jagged cradle]

Has this happened to anyone?? I just exited a game because of a cheater, I reported the player and blocked the player... However, the next match was the same game I exited... Does player blocking not work???

[pliant raptor]

I'm sure I heard about some studio which was working on an AI training model which could sample a player's voice and generate it appropriately in game

[arctic tartan]

We have played same games with friends, 1 went from plat2 to diamond 4, one from gold2 to plat 2, i went plat 2 to plat 1. And im talking about 15 games with around 4 losses on round 2 mostly cuz of cheaters and maybe 7 wins and 4 final losses. From todays games it was 1 final loss, 1 round 2 loss (cuz cheaters aimbotting whole lobby) and 1 win and i drop 3000 ranks in leaderboard like the fuck is this? XD how am i supposed to get points up do i need to lose all my games on round 1 if i get punished dropping in ranks for winning 2/3 of my games? XD

[lavish shard]

Only sword dagger very fun

[strong vessel]

I think thats too much to expect, since besides the computational requirements to do this for each player, you also have to consider that for certain players it might not work properly for one reason or another, and you have to address those individually. I did always think it would be cool if we could choose our own team names, which even the casters ingame would use. Of course there are limitations to that, but I believe its feasible if you make it some sort of a clan tag or something, and creating a clan costs some points (like VR or even money). I'd just find it so funny if my team could be The bed wetters, The poopy pants or The party poopers.

[twin dome]

I'd love there to be a sorry option on the ping/communication wheel!

[hollow valve]

Yeah it's too much. And I don't expect it either. I just want to play a good game.

[lament prism]

Delete the rpg

[cyan crane]

Would love an overtime timer for the cashout. It's frustrating when you get there after running off the other side of the map and the time runs out mid steal when the entire team is done

[mild gull]

no ❌

[hidden idol]

Another loss sponsoted by SBMM, thanks for this great ranked experience!

[mossy otter]

Bring back nukes

[hasty umbra]

yeah you are infact the only soul on this game complaining about invis, let alone the KNIFE lmao, i was #27 in the world this season you know how many people i've seen use knife in ranked? absolutely zero, why does no one use it if it's so broken and over powered? absolute shocker the only person complaining about it is some gold on discord, they are not going to nerf the least used item in the game to satisfy you, you're cooked mate

[young smelt]

You’re just bad 💀 this is not the right channel to whine about your lack of skill

[ripe relic]

You would lose 100x more in season one where you played against the top 100 players in the world without sbmm as a noob..

[plucky perch]

The movement in the game definitely needs to be smoothened.

[true marsh]

👍

[peak pine]

Can we reduce the count down time when killing an enemy when trying to spawn back. (ranked only)

[hard badger]

can we get after action report so we can see our stats of previous played matches pls?

[lavish shard]

Remove SBMM in quick play
Crossplay ps5/xbox
Bank it 40k to 60k
Vote map
Remove low gravity

[plush grotto]

Gib more guns s3 and add back unranked tournament

[hidden idol]

ofc a boosted diamond such as yourself would defend the SBMM 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[queen cloud]

I don't think sbmm is a problem either. In my opinion SBMM should exist only in ranked.
I don't remeber the last time I 3 stacked in quickcash. But last time I duo I win every single match and pretty much rolled every lobby. (good players, not random lfg discord noobs)

[regal sand]

can you guys please PLEASE fix the bug where your UI is cloaked, when you're not?

[final basin]

It’s a feedback channel buddy, if people can complain about a funny little dash ability I don’t see why I can’t complain about a weapon that insta kills before you can even see the person using it.

not to mention, if it got buffed DAYS ago, and you don't ever play against it, what can you say about your skill level? who cares who you are if you don't even know what I'm talking about? light is barely viable in ranked, not because it's bad, but because it's absolute bullshit playing as a light or against a light. a ton of the game's big changes have been nerfs to light, and yet people don't play it anyways? the reason isn't because balancing is needed, but because it's an unfun character, some people think it's better to nerf it to the ground rather than make it balanced but unfun and inconsistent. I don't give a shit who you are, if a weapon is unfun, anyone is allowed to say that it's unfun, and maybe there's a chance something will change. what do you think this channel is for? to shoot down other people's ideas just because you're claiming to be better at the game? if the weapon is terrible, then say it's terrible and maybe it'll get a buff, if I think it's stupid from a design POV then I'll say that. just because you're apparently #27 in the world doesn't mean you're automatically always right and the smartest cookie in the pot, and it really shows.

the weapon is stupid, good or bad, say what you want about it, say what you want about MY skill level, but I think it's just bad game design.

[quick coyote]

PLAYER 64421514545 ASKING EMBARK TO FIX GAME CRASH and explain me why when I launch ranked game I play with people who crash 2x for 1 and 3x for the other and I win the game why do I fucking loose rank ? Do I need to finish in 0-0-10 to rank up like noobs or wtf ?

[tough raft]

you can hear them from like a mile away tho

[hidden idol]

When I refer to removing the SBMM I mean the logic that tries to balance the teams, putting 1 good player with 2 deadweights which does not equal 3 average players despite the matchmaking thinking otherwise. The SBMM also takes streaks into account, meaning if you get win or losstreak it will match you accordingly. So If the system detects you're a good player, it will give you shittier teammates trying to enforce 50% winrate, thats why you see absolute animals in Diamond.

[high wing]

I dont think they have sbmm in ranked. It only looks at your League rank and tries to match with those at same level. Your personal performance doesnt matter. You can play like a god but you still rank down if you lose

[quick coyote]

ban this kind of people "UnusualGrenade" bro is spamming thanks because I die for the first time of the game https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1239670903030415411/1247542267926020236/image.png?ex=666067c6&is=665f1646&hm=6163d631508906a2c50d66e7b1a703a83bb61b64699b8d1d3179559b59b6aaf9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1194&height=671 but this kid is dead 5 times https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1239670903030415411/1247542493369864262/image.png?ex=666067fc&is=665f167c&hm=7bb3902db0d8950d58641a34e600e9d8cbdbdd68dd934ac9df9c3c9bc27407ee&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1193&height=671 bro 80% of people are stucked in a rank because mates are crashing raging or just boosted

[quick coyote]

Cloak is basically in ruins cuz casuals couldn't bother putting a bit more effort into spotting them, Dagger is also one of the weaker weapons in the game. A weapon entirely countered by simply... Turning around.

[hidden idol]

Not true, it does. I've had plenty games where suddenly I get an actual gold, silver player or both in a otherwise diamond lobby where those people get completely rolled, not to mention the complete brainless boosted diamond players that have been boosted beyond all reason. If what you're saying is true, it should be impossible to have these players on my team.

[sleek blade]

Add freaky toe sucker emotes

[rough herald]

Static crosshair

[ivory stream]

Nah your cooked bro. Firstly invis is so audible when moving that using it might aswell broadcast your position more than not using it. and the knife. Yes good players can use it effectively but good players can use anything effectively. If you are getting backstabbed your either being outskilled or have a skill issue. The knife is not overpowered Invis is underpowered and idk what you are coping about.

[terse slate]

healing beam should not be able to fully heal against a flamethrower.. i would get it if life would stay around the same but not that its possible to up-heal through a flamethrower.

[final basin]

who said anything about coping? it's a complaint, you can say I suck, but I'm not necessarily saying it IS overpowered, I'm saying either you die to it or you don't, there's usually not close calls or anything, either you instantly die or you kill the person using it. there's no fun or enjoyment, it's just not a weapon that belongs.

[turbid dove]

i love how running logitech g hub is detected as an unauthorised program and closes my game

[sharp snow]

yo it wont let me or my friend send each other game invites, is there any fixes for this?

[ember locust]

have you tried turning it on and off again?

[lucid zephyr]

yeah we have

[ivory stream]

Yeah so your not actually right there. I don't think they have sbmm in ranked. However you can totally queue with your friends who are silver/gold while you yourself are diamond. How do I know this? Because I queue with silver/gold. Our ranks do not even out or anything like that as would happen in sbmm. It is simply a full diamond lobby. When queuing with a friend it takes the highest players rank and matches around that. That is ehy you can see diamonds with a gold or lower on their team in certain circumstances.
@thick galleon So like sniper? Or like throwing knives? Or like Sword? Or model 1887? All these weapons can one tap. In these scenarios it is simply "you die or they die" infact "you die or they die" is how 90% of combat works in pretty much every game ever. Its very satisfying to kill someone with a backstab and it is perhaps less but still satisfying to kill some rat that was trying to backstab you. If you don't have fun with it then maybe rather than the weapon not belonging in the game maybe you don't? Just saying.

[quartz cedar]

I couldn't disagree more. For me, the dagger belongs in this game, and should stay as a niche 1-tap. People like you are the reason they are slowly stripping away anything that gave this game an identity.

[rose stump]

Random saying this here: Please decrease/change the time needed to regenerate health
Reason: Makes gameplay more engaging and less passive

• Decreased time from 10 seconds --> 7 Seconds
• Health regeneration rate decreased slightly to prevent annoying passive play-styles

[lavish shard]

10 heavy
7 medium
5 light

[final basin]

an identity? who says an identity is a good thing here? paladins is a game with a good identity, and it's extremely unbalanced half the time. why is "a niche 1-tap" a good thing? you're just stating that it's interesting, not that it's enjoyable. maybe in a game where you can't dash directly into someone you already outspeed, like tf2 or CS, it makes sense, but people are dropping crazy kill counts in my games with it, and I've heard many other players in my matches (good players or not) saying the same. you can just dash in, backstab, and dash out. not to mention, they just BUFFED the weapon, so who says the game IS losing its identity? you're complaining about something that isn't even happening. what is it that I complained about that's somehow making the game "lose its identity"? invis? it's barely changed in a way that actually changes its viability. dagger? got buffed. dash? barely touched.

[hasty umbra]

ain't no one reading allat

[nimble kiln]

if someone can just dash in and dash out then you're in a bad position to fight a dagger light or just got outplayed

[viral patrol]

just remove flamethrower or something

[velvet gyro]

Give light granade launcher

[ember locust]

Is this the chat where people complain about all the weapons that aren't even that good or what?😂 People talking about dagger like they're in a John Wick movie lmao

[brittle obsidian]

Yeah, only allowed to complain about completely fine weapons and not objectively broken ones like lewis and LH1

[floral plover]

Silly concept !!

[robust prawn]

something happened to the china lake in this past bug update it feels very off and inconsistant like for example it would take 2 shots to kill a lite 3 for med and 4+ for heavy now its wonky and takes more to kill all 3 of those classes

[sonic spoke]

I would buy that...

[vagrant saffron]

Hi i saw that daily quest have nothing. I wanted to make them more interesting and i made a few plans for stickers/charms/sprays etc. and i was planning to make them for making daily quest (all in one day) at streak so u can earn them. (the reward is not visible so we dont know what we get) I dont know if my requirements are too much for them but here we are. Im not good artist (never was) and for 1st i wanna start normally like everything is ok... but when we progress with next quest we will get 2nd which is depressed and wasted. Now for the 3rd one i have 2 concepts made for now ( but if idea is cool for you i can make more ) the first one fell apart and is devoured by the void and second one changed into demon (idk what write for demon im waiting for suggestion). Hope u guys like it!

bruh i cant send images

[hollow valve]

Is this a bug or something? I got removed from match TFGE0038 twice in a roll...... "Kicked from the server" lol

[rough herald]

Light is not under power

DO NOT BUFF LIGHT!! i can still rick shit form every so often, other wise we will have the same heavy vs light problem but its light vs medium this time
just nerf the problem child aka heavy weapon dude and we're golden

and if you want to buff light all you have to do is revert some changes

[inland cove]

pls change goo gun the current state of this thing is just a self troll

when i shoot a player with it to stick them, they can just run out the back and the goo stays stuck in the air blocking me from dealing any damage or hunting them down
this makes basically all combat applications of this useless and the only thing left to do is build a bunker (witch is terribly boring)

i understand that the old goo/player interaction was not good since it was possible to permanently trap someone

my suggestion would be to:

• at least have the goo not stay floating in the air
• but best make the goo apply a slow effect and not create a rigid foam if it hits a player. the slow could be indicated by a status effect "gooed" (like burning/EMPed) to have a visual indicator that the slow is applied.

this would mean that:

• It is no longer possible to permanently trap a player
• it is no longer possible to goo yourself up to block incoming damage
• it is no longer possible to interrupt a cashout steal by blocking line of sight to the cashout by gooing up the stealing player
• it is now possible for teammates to more easily damage gooed up enemy players

my suggestion for the "gooed" effect itself:

• duration 2 seconds (possibly less) ( this need to be enough to swap from googun to another weapon (eg. sledgehammer/flamethrower/shotgun) and do some damage before the effect wears out
• slow amount similar to stun gun

please share your thoughts on this 😁

[nocturne sand]

S3 general suggestions:

-please don’t nerf things into the ground and make them feel worse to people that are used to them, instead buff the other stuff in the game that is not even remotely viable. Make guns have their own feel and their own niche (ex- FCAR now is basically the same thing as the AK)

-build a community by hosting streamer events like the Friday Fortnite tournaments

-for the love of god, PUT THE “HYPE” REACTION BACK IN THE ORIGINAL SPOT SO I CAN SPAM IT AND CELEBRATE WITH MY TEAM

[cyan nova]

I don't like the new comm wheel, old one felt way better

[stark lava]

Ваш рейтинг говнище редкостное, каждую 3 игру меня выбрасывает из - за бага а когда я перезахожу, кикает за тол что вышел самостоятельно, я ужеп 2 недели не могу выйти из 4 золота.

[sage abyss]

Pray summer games fest and season 3 save this game

[true falcon]

For AMD users, Anti-Lag 2 is slowly releasing. Anyway to make the finals more responsive is a big plus. https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-24-5-1-AL2-TECH-PREVIEW.html

[lavish shard]

Light is usless in ranked but strong in bank it powershift whit sword tk sniper
hard to balanced qp and ranked

[bleak coral]

wow ur really in here trolling every day lol

[thick sand]

When are you gonna start using an AI anticheat that can easily identify and ban cheaters? please do it fast this game is ruined by tons of hackers

[untold wing]

The game really needs to timeout players who leave in ALL gamemodes, not just ranked and terminal attack, 90% of matches have at least 1-2 leavers

[whole acorn]

Can you guys add long cargo shorts

[broken geyser]

It would be really cool if yall added a new vault feature where u can just vault over a smaller obstacle while maintaining ur momentum so u don't have to jump on it and then continue running. It'll make the overall game smoother and would be neat new addition for movement. Maybe u can choose to vault over like that by double pressing ur jump button when ur near the obstacle while running to it

[wheat ibex]

👍 Just had my entire team leave on me in power shift

[delicate notch]

I would love to see a selection of beards being introduced in season 3 🧔🏼‍♂️ let my dude have facial hair.

[jovial socket]

Consider creating a small campaign with video game influencers to teach them how to play the game, since it's new and has unique gameplay.

[ivory stream]

Please go play 1 round with dagger and get more than 20 elims i beg you. Go on. See how hard it is. I'll place bets if you'd like. Paladins does not have identity it's just an old overwatch rip off.

[hollow valve]

Yes there is a YouTube video just about it and ai anti cheat is already well developed.

What's more, this just came to my mind after my screen went like super nova after the flash bang. Please add a darque mood flashing screen, after you get flashed, your screen goes black instead of painful white.

[velvet gyro]

The matchmaking needs to be fixed. Ran into Piggy in high diamond sadly our gold did not belong there :(
I went 4 arrows down from this match

[fossil jewel]

you mean based concept

[floral plover]

@fossil jewel @sonic spoke I made a channel for it #1247567981513412698

[copper sphinx]

i like the idea of a unique goo status effect, but considering how contentious stun gun was before its nerf this seems very hard to balance correctly. it would essentially be an offensive special that gives heavy yet another tool to counter light and i doubt that's the devs intention with it

[hollow creek]

be able to emote in the lobby

[coral axle]

DAY 11 ASKING FOR FSR 3.0 AND FRAME GENERATION!

[sharp summit]

I agree with him

[primal spoke]

Dunno if its a bug but your character is not always in the center of the "team showcase and load into arena" animations

[odd ibex]

I can’t play the game it lags too much
Make rpg have a laser sight and make it very visible so we can prepare to deal with it and u have to aim down sight to fire so it’s balanced

How about a healing dart for lights as a gadget with a little boost of health so this will make light a bit more useful in ranked and it’s not auto-aim healing beam plus u have to be accurate IT GIVES MORE HEALTH WHEN TEAMMATE HEALTH LOW and have grapple hook stuck to walls whenever for ambush and improve grapple hook inertia physics for players.

Give dagger a downwards thrust with 80-100 damage depending on how high u charge it when falling.

Add automatic crossbow for heavy and have it climbable when stuck to walls.

Have different game balance for causal and ranked causes different audience causes back and forth balances.

We have problem with dagger hit register as it only work after dash finishes but people run away at the last moment,just make it work a few milliseconds earlier.

[sonic wraith]

Penalise leaving even in quickplay. 3 Games today, first 2 games, 4 rage quit in the ennemy team in the first 2 minutes, second game the entire ennemy team left, third game , 3 of my teamates left (in powershift). Penalise them, kids who cant stay 5 minutes in the same games because they're getting destroyed and think the next game is gonna be different deserve to be on a timer for searching new games. edit : 4th game today. Exact same, 8m25 left and they were already 2v5. Ban people who leave.

@cinder ridge Thats skill issue then, you're bad at the game you're bad at the game (not you specifically), thats why i said 'they think next game will be different', leaving wil not fix that, if you die a lot next game will be the same. They need to add a team deathmatch for thoose braindead players who cant understand that Powershift is an objective gamemode and end u with 1 0 12 and 0 objectives point.

[quick coyote]

I fucking vouch this @ivory stream look your dm's

[queen cloud]

skill issue

[ivory stream]

bruh i went solo as light to diamond. It's hard I do 8x the score of my teammates but it's still possible. Not the game bro it's you 💀

[novel lily]

Nerf Flamethrowers range bruh

[night dune]

it feels so stupid to play THE FINALS and actually try to win. when the entire power shift round we never got a 5th player . This game is TOTALLY DEAD because of the bugs that go ages without being fixed. It's a shame Embark doesn't care about this game cause it had potential.

@cinder ridge been playing since s1 so if I say the devs don't care about the game it's because they aren't fixing long standing bugs that have been reported. Nobody cares about a new map or some stupid recolor skins or a new game mode when they can't even fix the existing bugs.

[cinder ridge]

People will stop leaving quick play when there’s a game mode with a respawn timer of less that 30 seconds. If you aren’t slaying out you spend on average 2-5 minutes a game watching numbers count down. Also adding a quick play penalty in general will push casual playerbase away from the game @night dune maybe wait a week when s3 comes out and see how much they fix before saying they don’t care about the game they created

[viral patrol]

make it so that if someone on a team crashes at the start of the round, and a cashout has been completed. your rank wont change

[final basin]

rip off? craaazy

[idle thistle]

most of this channel is just noobs crying

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage to around 50-70 and give it two shots. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[tired oasis]

Agree heart on you

[molten sluice]

why are there invisible walls in Seoul map? around Cashouts?

[orchid abyss]

Are there any plans to address the exploit where weapons can be used at a significantly higher rate than intended due to animation canceling or gadget swapping????? for instance, the sword

[vernal swallow]

first two and last two 💯🔥

everything else I’m gonna be so honest is pretty bad, although rpg I feel like instead of two shots should be 1 but half the cooldown with 50-70 damage (still same arena damage) and c4 should be buffed back to two with it having a small range increase and a 20%-35% damage reduction (again same arena damage)

[dapper harness]

This game needs more publicity to get more players... it's complicated having to get a server from another region due to lack of players...

[floral plover]

ICE GANG REPRESENTS!! GO LIKE IF YOU WANT AN ICE CREAM SUMMER IN THE FINALS!!! #1243918013615570974

[storm quarry]

They should really fix issue with duo or solo teams in matches, its so goddamn annoying.

[glacial knot]

Agree, game crashes, missed players in ranked matchmaking, a lot of bugs .What is the job of those the finals devs, they can be mcdonald employees but not game devs

[gritty umbra]

any one elses solo queue just throwing u in games with teams that arent filled or your team isint filled?

[stray thunder]

Ok, so the majority of the complaints in hers are skilled based. With that said the game need to be fun to play for the casual player as well as the competitive one.
I think one major reason for the high number of rage quitting is a wast number of soloq are facing pre made teams and get slaughtered.
Why not just add a separate soloq for all with no pre made team?

[brave copper]

jsyk ranked does have sbmm. The design director explained it in a letter a few patches back.

[pseudo breach]

Yep. Always getting backfilled. But when someone leaves, that match will never get backfilled. It's essentially 1v3v3 most of the time. And when I tried complaining about it, the message was blocked

[urban marsh]

Man find some people to play with, solo q is hard, i managed to reach diamond 3 with solo q but it was pain, is not the game fault. And if you don’t like it don’t play it simpler as that

[odd ibex]

I can’t play the game it lags too much
Make rpg have a laser sight and make it very visible so we can prepare to deal with it and u have to aim down sight to fire so it’s balanced

How about a healing dart for lights as a gadget with a little boost of health so this will make light a bit more useful in ranked and it’s not auto-aim healing beam plus u have to be accurate IT GIVES MORE HEALTH WHEN TEAMMATE HEALTH LOW and have grapple hook stuck to walls whenever for ambush and improve grapple hook inertia physics for players.

Give dagger a downwards thrust with 80-100 damage depending on how high u charge it when falling.

Add automatic crossbow for heavy and have it climbable when stuck to walls.

Have different game balance for causal and ranked causes different audience causes back and forth balances.

We have problem with dagger hit register as it only work after dash finishes but people run away at the last moment,just make it work a few milliseconds earlier.

[plush fjord]

srry mate thats ur luck. thousands of us r hving genuinely good teammates. it aint embarks fault that players are bad. and if they are, u try doing smthng on ur own. also, no one asked u to waste a penny. stop making the game sound like a pay to win, wasting pennies only gets u cosmetics, no powerups or better teammates. nxt time before matchmaking, be sure to make a wish for better teammates 😄

[drowsy stream]

Game is crashing constantly after latest update. Any general solutions?

[high wing]

is it only cheaters left? gold players with perfect aim and know where u are all the time

[opaque nest]

I just had a game where cashout 5&6 did not spawn we had a doubled cashout 3&4 with 2mins 30 left and then nothing .... kinda frustrating

[rough herald]

200 meter respawn

[wise cliff]

Settings > System > Display > Graphics
Then look out for The Finals and Discovery, change the setting for both of them from High performance to Energy saving, check "Not use optimizations for windowed games".

[hasty umbra]

bros not copy and pasting 30 terrible suggestions

[arctic bramble]

Make reworks to old maps it will be great and help keep player interaction up

[zenith hazel]

when is textchat coming?

[storm quarry]

Only problems this game has, are crashes and not full teams. Never met any serious bugs.

[alpine rain]

Map reworks need to happen based on how people feel about certain areas... Hospital is one that everyone knows is almost a guaranteed win

[stray rampart]

In a reddit ama, they said it's coming in S3

[urban marsh]

Man is not your fault. Tbh from what i can see is that a loooooot of frustration build up, people are disappointed, some upset cause a new update gives new bugs, poor performance so on. But man the dev team are trying their best, like man they are people to, they are so stressed out cause as much as they do smthing doesn’t work the way it should. And when they see comments like yours they fell down, and won’t had that desire to do better. That s way i say this for all man chill, is just a game, the finals is not the only game that had been full of bugs or imbalances. Take a brake, relax, find people to talk use mic, try stupid build that don t make sense but are fun and relax till season 3 drops. I still think is to early to say what’s going to happen to this game.

[wooden anvil]

I've gotta know if anyone else has any issues with ranking up. Recently my friend has joined my squad (a three man now) and he has gone from Gold 3 to Diamond 2 in about a week. We have only played together and all play pretty consistently, but I have been stuck in Platinum 1 for the last month. It just feels so demoralising.

Some games they do better than me, others I do better. We had a second round loss today where I went 3 down, they went 1 down, even with the rank difference. We were close stats wise but I was ahead. I just wanna know how it works and why I am so stuck lmao.

Ik this isnt feedback per say, but the rank system right now just doesnt show much, the arrows dont make sense and idk what else I can do to get that silly diamond skin other than gitgud

[fervent vortex]

Ima see how fast they delete this

[rapid stream]

no way katana for medium
@mild gull I know

[rough herald]

Spectator cam need to goes throw doors and all player created stuff

[woven quest]

Went to get an item from a bundle, and I couldn’t the only option was to buy the entire bundle?

[waxen bear]

Not vehicles 😭

[magic stratus]

While in team wipe spectator cam, pressing left or right click on mouse or game pad should allow the camera to warp to a cashout / vault

[hardy crown]

my friend cant open settings when he clicks game crahes anyone know solution? i searched on internet but couldnt found anything?

[mild gull]

these aren't leaks. this is footage from 2021, an embark tweet showing a pre-release version of THE FINALS, before the game's name was even announced

[violet elbow]

yeah thats like, pre alpha footage lmao

[hollow badger]

wait, a scotter and CARS?!?!

[fervent vortex]

Ima be honest eu people thought it was new, blame the French, the actual leaks will be in a week when the pretest occurs

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage to around 50-70 and give it two shots. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[ember locust]

replace all gadgets with circles

[crimson karma]

I really hope that you add middle east server 🙂

[proven crown]

Audio beeping for lights using gateway when you're approaching max distance from your first deployment

[silver rapids]

10k headshot damage in the masters career stage 4. Isn’t that a bit excessive?

[untold pendant]

a heavy nerf would be welcome

[low galleon]

I can't make new bug report post so I'm putting this here. Everyone including my name is just contestant

I've verified game files and uninstalled too many to count even going into steam game folder and deleting it

[worldly scaffold]

REMOVE THE SNIPER RIFLE from powershift. you can't freaking move from spawn, use ziplines, jump pads, open field, windows, you get shot instantly these days. God damn I'm pissed at the game right now, five matches today, all dog shit sniper fests... Same for weeks now. I just want a god damn match without snipers, pretty much all of them are fun... "play around them", that isn't the issue, they don't in the game, at all. Rant over. No it isn't, Season 1 and early Season 2 not a single day, not a single one, I came off from the game with bad mood. Now it has been weeks I HATE the game, and I'm pissed after closing it down... If season 3 wasn't this close, I would un-install, right now.

[final basin]

hey king you dropped this 👑

[paper stream]

Knives are balanced right now. Lights are doing 15+ kills in plat/diamond right now. Unless they are on my team, then <5 kills.

[dawn hazel]

anyone else accepting invites and appearing to be in lobby but not on other's screens? i also cant host. (others don't receive my invites) - also have to hover above everything in this game to click on it. - cloudid: i have it enabled and so does the person im playing with. thanks for the feedback

[waxen bear]

They or you didn’t have cross play on. See if that works

[willow leaf]

That’d be very nice to be told how far you can go.

[inland rain]

The sniper rifle is one of these weapons that really need a nerf, or a counter for most classes

The sniper itself has a flaw, its hitscan, you can grab it without knowing what are you doing and probably kill a few players, another flaw is that theres no way to fight back for any class but lights, maybe heavies can win some time with the barricades but you cant hide forever

And the worst flaw is that even if you get close to then they can Just run away with the hook or dash, I really think medium would be more balanced to have the sniper honestly, he can get the high ground with his gadget but also he cant just run away easily if you catch him

[quick coyote]

ban boosted players and improve ranked lmfao https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239670903030415411/1247634138874511504/image.png?ex=6660bd56&is=665f6bd6&hm=303156ae1ed7c28078ca66f05d562c37ea02f010cb2fd16ecd59396d7416351f&

[urban marsh]

We need more in game events, i only see low gravity most of the time. I hope in season 3 we get more

[potent solar]

no way it needs a buff if anything. try it in ranked

[tepid rock]

feedback for the feedback section, add your rank when you spend time giving feedback

[zealous plinth]

Add compensation when teammate disconnect in ranked

[floral plover]

Oscar I stole all your ice creams and robs because you didn’t react to my fan work 😡😈 MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!! No ice cream summer for embark !! #1243918013615570974

[worldly scaffold]

Counters are not the problem, they already made the barricades bigger to counter them, they know the issue, but don't wanna do what needs to be done. Snipers limit the game overall, you can't do jack shit, I just played another match, and you get shot right at the spawn. This isn't hide and seak, this is Finals, use verticality, jump around, zip around, and so on... or not it seems... Also, NERF THE KNIVES, they are ridiculous now, holy moly this dev team, I swear to god they don't play casual play list, at all... They should had allready hotpatched them, but I guess they only play ranked.... So it's fine... But I actually got one good game in PS, no knives, no snipers, just one guy exploiting sword was the only downside, or maybe he was just good with 18 kills (oh my god Light sucks... No, just 90+% Light players suck, Light is fine), not sure, but it was great.

[tawny oriole]

After game crash i reconnected to the game and to the battle finished final round last round didnt count , why ?

[ember locust]

sniper literally sucks everywhere but power shift, also medium has better movement options than light

[upper citrus]

dont nerf throwing knives thy are literally fine

[keen jolt]

nerf throwing knives. it's too powerful. i just wanna have fun in my spare time, but there's 800 lights playing throwing knifes in every game. that's too crazy

[tame crag]

On Xbox you can no longer view the “More info” tab for game modes, as the button to access that is the same as the one to start a private match.

[plush depot]

My teammates were in the lobby, but when the game started both were gone. Nobody rejoined it seemed like when people leave in tournament, but it Was normal quick cash. Also both of them had 200 objective score for whatever reason.

[misty jasper]

this only really applies to power shift tho. In ranked sniper rifles are near useless, unless you’re goated w it

[proven crown]

Better control scheme for evasive dash (CoD Advanced Warfare style with double clicking). It's so much more intuitive imo

[potent solar]

honestly I think the reason ppl have issues in powershift is because the level of competition is lower. if you get a good medium or even 2 people to work together they can shut the snipers down easily. most people just w key to the platform out in the open over an over again then wonder why they get sniped in the same spot each time

[daring fossil]

the revolver was a light weapon originally too

[floral plover]

Oscar an Oscar ?

[sharp herald]

Aside from the sudden throwing knife and GL spam, love the game

[thick bluff]

great game, im having a cheater in every game which is leading to people disconnecting and just one guy in the lobby have 15-20 kills, 2 games in a row now, 2 yesterday on casual. bit more rare in ranked but it still happening, very annoying.

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage to around 50-70 and give it two shots. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90
• Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)

FIX THE FOV WHEN HOLDING THE SHIELD UP:

• Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many possibilities! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, on the other hand i've barely seen any Light using smoke, especially when they have better gadgets to choose from

[lavish shard]

P = light
Like that ? lol

[late flower]

I feel like there's room for more events per match

[flint pecan]

nah, get rid of some of these events

[steep sigil]

https://x.com/EmbarkStudios/status/1457998271641686023

[worldly scaffold]

That isn't issue... "You can play around them", sure, but they make the mode shit, period. I just played a match, where we started with 9 people, because ofcourse you, and seven, seven, were Lights... Five of them in opponents team. We won the match by the way (one of the opponents left after dying few times), we never got backfilled for fifth player, that is an issue too. We won, yet the match was mostly boring, yeye!

[fervent vortex]

@steep sigil was testing if they were right, this is why those mofos don’t get into pre test

[fluid anchor]

OMG vehicles???

[gritty umbra]

i never realized it but vehicles would be perfect for the formula

[subtle copper]

fix the double click bug where if you click once, sometimes it clicks twice. been in the game for over a year and cost plenty moments. (happened with multiple g305s, my current sora v2) 5950x/3090/64gb ram and a mostly clean setup so hoping it's not that. also happened to others i know of

[tame crag]

I think throwing knives burst damage is a little too high.

Not extremely but lowering 63 to like 60 would probably be a perfect change.

[proven parcel]

Would love to hear an update on the progression of custom lobbies.
Hoping to see a better lobby system, more custom options, and map variant options to choose from. TA customs would be a lot of fun.

[mystic bramble]

? never happened once in my 250 hrs. Mouse issue?

[proven crown]

Advanced training practice tutorials and videos, to get noobs inspired to understand macro strategy (and reduce stupidity when it comes to valuts vs cashout 1 vs cashout 2 decision-making). I really started enjoying the game once I understood how to make better decisions, and accelerating this could only be good for the playerbase)

[mystic kernel]

bro, 250 hours and this is the first time it happens, i cant enter a match it crashes, i unranked to plat 3 bcz of it, 6 times I opened the game and it crashed on me, i can't legit join a match

[young smelt]

Let us use emotes in the lobby

[acoustic storm]

The funny thing is that I see a lot of people demanding a DMR for the medium or a Anti Material Rifle for the Heavy.

The finals is at its best when played close to medium range. Thats where the most action happens, and the highest skill expression lies. Only in that range can you really utilise the environment to your advantage. If you play around the objective and survive on a small amount of HP that is a thrilling experience. Not getting one shot across the map in a game with a high TTK.
And long range peak fights are just boring, especially in a game like the finals which requires a lot of proactivity.

The game is best when there are no long range weapons. Change my mind.

[floral plover]

Oscar as Oscar ? (Dagger skin)

[zenith hazel]

lobbys are bugged, i see people that left, invites dont show up, people leave a lobby after a game for some reason

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage to around 50-70 and give it two shots. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[novel lily]

lol no

[high tartan]

I know that AI "art" is a sensitive topic in general, but I'd still like to leave my feedback regarding this topic here. Barely anyone mentioned before that they're charging actual money for generated images (stickers you can put on your weapons). Please do better embark, generative AI steals from artists, please commission artists for your in-game stickers that you're charging actual money for. Videogames are a form of art, so please respect other forms of art. I know my feedback won't change much about this issue but I hope other people will also stand up for this.

EDIT: (i can't reply so i'll just edit the message to reply to your question) Lots of them, for example the Roar of yore, goblin' up fate, hoppy easter, lil' rusty etc. lots of them are generated, but these are a few very clear examples where there design is super inconsistent and visibly generated.

[gritty umbra]

what was generated?

[meager sentinel]

Just wanna add a few suggestions, but here are some things that i'd LOVE to see in the game during Season 3:

• New Team Names
  something like Scotty yelling "The Protagonists really are the main characters! They've banked some more cash!" or June saying "The Thunderclaps are making massive echoes, they've started our first Cashout of the match!" would suit it well :)
• Personalised voice lines
  If they directly addressed players when they got an achievement i think this'd be quite cool!
• Vehicles!
  Once seen in an alpha promotion, these look sick! Maybe give them destructive properties tho as I'm not sure that they'd be fun to drive in closed maps like Vegas.
• More gameshow events!
  I'd love to see maybe a "Time Warp" event where the game decides whether to speed up or slow down the pace of the game - maybe area based? for example, around a cashout it'd be slower and outside of that the game would move faster - affecting fire rates, reload times etc. --> maybe a bit too OP?
• Sponsorships
  Having the choice between different brands for personalised contracts is a really cool idea!
• REAL LIFE MERCH
  Please embark let me buy some nama-certified t-shirts or real OSPUZE!! Maybe even some Embark merch?🙏
• and all the other stuff like new weapons, specialisations and more!!

[mystic bramble]

embark doesn't care. Think about how awful the announcers are. They could hire real voice actors and it would be an objective increase in quality, but they don't care. They have shown that its profits above all else. Quality is secondary

[potent solar]

so I recently came back to the quickplay game modes to complete challenges after mostly playing ranked. I think the issue is that ranked provides an incentive to play the objective and the quickplays don't. yeah it can be boring but you won, I think if there was a rank tied to it people would play differently. also the long distance challenges are to blame because thats the only mode they can play in that has a chance of completing it because it is extremely outmatched by the meta and other weapons

nerfing / removing it is going in the wrong direction. maybe if not making it ranked you could get store credits and / or custom items with so many wins (or time on platform) to make people take quickplays more seriously

[graceful needle]

Okay, so there is one thought that stays on my mind: GAME ABANDONMENT AFFECTS GAMES. There are serial game abandoners that are aqffecting the outcomes of the games . Frankly, I couldn't care less about a person's win/loss ratio. What I do care about is that the idiots serial abandoning games SHOULD be penalized.

[plush depot]

Please give us more loadouts at least 9 but 12 would be nice

[rigid shale]

starting a cashout w/2 players and no backfills sucks, but the number of invisible walls, fences, and stairs that started showing up today is even worse.

[pine perch]

What have you @pearl kiln done with tk

[vernal swallow]

make it so the host can reorder teams in custom matches, if I can’t get 5 other people on (which is like always) then we are forced to play solo bank it instead of cashout :~(

[young smelt]

We need a "make party leader" button

[fleet trellis]

Am i trippin' or something ?

I can't stop playing this game, seeing the “theory lore” videos, the improvements the game has made in just 1 year! And nobody notices...
I keep talking about The Finals to other streamers, in their communities, in their dedicated discords. But it seems they really hate the game. Why ?

I've heard arguments, which I couldn't disagree with, such as:

• server not optimized
• Not enough content
• Very long competitive queue

But one sentence, which personally annoys me, is that the game is repetitive.... As if, Valorant, R6, League of Legend, Minecraft wasn't ! I don't get it.

During the Beta, everyone, 1 year ago had this huge Hype about this game... And now they're rejecting it like the plague. Or expired food (idk).

I show them the lore content, like the videos at the beginning of the game with Scotty and june talking about an ia, recently released. They don't seem to be impressed. It's as if this kind of thing came out every day in their games.

Listen, If we were to have a serious discussion, from you to me, imagine Embark letting the community talk about the game, to promote it. Whatever it takes ! How would you do it ?

[ionic rampart]

imo, someone who says the game "doesnt have enough content" just doesnt really understand the kind of lateral thinking this game encourages. the sandbox present in the game gives room for tons and tons of experimentation and unique experiences on an admittedly limited selection of maps. anyone trying to play the game like call of duty will see there's only N maps and only X guns and immediately assume that there's not much content, failing to see the depth of what's there.

as for reasons to reject the game, the biggest one i would actually kind of agree with is the use of generative AI for the announcers. i feel that embark absolutely could have hired voice actors, and that they should have, even from a purely practical standpoint. the entire controversy could have been avoided for only as much as it costs to pay two voice actors.

regardless, it feels to me like the singular blemish on an otherwise outstanding game- if someone plays it and doesnt enjoy it, then i could concede that maybe the game just isnt what they're interested in.

comparing the finals to any other FPS currently in existence is immediately an apples to oranges comparison, because nothing else is really like the finals. some people just don't like oranges and there's nothing that embark can do to change that. i've seen too many players complaining that the game is going to fail because it isnt an apple, rather than accepting that maybe it's okay for not everyone to like it. what matters is that it makes enough money to survive and that it continues to do what it's best at rather than compromise to try to appeal to the most possible people.

[graceful needle]

I also enjoy this game as well. It's not often that you can get me to make multiple purchases for cosmetics, but here I am. I see it as putting something in the tip jar, for making what I feel is an excellent game, that is just starting out.

I also like that the game is not "pay to win", as it just requires playing the game. There are some thing that do annoy me, but that is is the same with any game. It's the "game abandonment" and joining in on a game that is certain to lose that frustrates me. I play through, win or lose, because that is part of any game. But those abansoning the game in the middle of play MUST be penalized for the game to gain traction. Because what fun is a game, when you're losing one or two people who abandon in the middle of a matah? And Embark can check my K/D ratio -- I'm not one of the "goose eggs".

As for the AI Announcers? I don't mind them. What I do mind, whereas voice is concerned, is where I play as a Male character, and they sound female (and vice versa). That's a tad off-putting IMO.

[stark notch]

lol how bout fix the shield hitbox where I'm clearly shooting them but the riot shield thats not visible is still blocking

[mossy karma]

Wtf why my teammate got 1 arrow down for final round where we had 1 cashout??? Hows that possible that we always get only 1-2 arrows up for final even if we win?

[idle thistle]

gold channel

[rose verge]

true the hitboxes are super bad for the riot shield, thankfully its under utilized if they ever buff that thing we're in trouble unless they also fix their hitboxes

[high tartan]

You're right, I think in the long run all of it will be harmful to their entire brand and image. I'm still hopeful someone will read the feedback and other players will also call them out on the use of AI for the stickers (and possibly skins) and the voices in the game.

[placid vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/mirage-apex-legends-trophy-relic-holdover-gif-17581992

[high wing]

can we please perm ban all that leave ranked games or for entire season 3, tired of everyone just leaving first death

[tiny karma]

today I reached the final in every game, what a nice day

[formal bear]

let me start off by saying that ive played this religiously since open beta. its been my main fps and i love it. since the launch of power shift its been my main game mode because its fun and focused on one objective. but right now, at least in power shift, it SUCKS. every game in powershift is 50% lights either running sniper, dagger or throwing knifes. you figure out a way how to kill/hide from the sniper, boom, theres some mf throwing knifes at you, you focus on the light throwing knifes, theres a guy with a dagger right behind you. it is IMPOSSIBLE to have fun in power shift right now unless youre running a meta comp. its the first time in 240 hours of playtime ive been actually not wanting to play this game and made a complaint.

[glacial knot]

Dear devs sword players if you verify ther Hit rate and you see that they have a high hit rate means they have aim lock . I m main heavy and i am realy good player and i have good movement but some light class even when i move they kill me as heavy with 2 sword hits even when i have full health. Please verify that. They know that you verify weapon accuracy thats why they are using sword and i m spying in many cheater discord chats. That why believe me

[clear hemlock]

They combo their lunge with a quick melee and they track you mid lunge so unless you move farther than the swords length it hits

[zinc haven]

interesting. the servers and lobbies seem so diverse. which off-meta Medium build would you like to play?

[worldly scaffold]

You don't get it, sniper is anti Finals, period. They should not balance this based on ranked, otherwise casual is dead, there is already Lights going 20 to 30 kills very often, nobody is going to play this if they "make the Light viable", if your average players can go for same numbers. Light is hard, most of Light players just suck, I suck with it, get over it people. They already introduced limited load outs with terminal attack, why are you so against removing sniper from PS, you just told you barely play it. 8/10 matches are absolute dogshit with either oppressive, or dog shit snipers, and those two matches where there is none, the mode is 11/10, since you can just play, just dash it out like and fight over that platform, not get sniped if you try to maneuver any way than from cover to cover, and regening health when you just try to move, or even freaking move from your spawn. It is boring and anti Finals, period. The challenges aare like devs trolling us, pushing people to play sniper, trying to shovel it down out throaths in streams, I'm right now at 8k from the 10k headshot damage, and I haven't even farted in the general direction of the sniper rifle. Once I'm done with that, see you at Season3, or maybe not, if the devs don't even recognize this issue, I'm done with them, ignorance and arrogance killed Battlefield, it will do same here. EDIT: Duckie, exactly (According to Finals 240 hours in for me too, 400 from Steam), I didn't think it would be possible the devs would make me having bad time with this game, but they managed to do it... Remove the sniper, period, people have been asking this since Season 1, for f sake...

[vale acorn]

more 5 man team modes, even if it's a bigger cash out

[torpid jewel]

Sniping isn't a problem when you have a counter sniper that can handle their own on your team on power shift and are doing their due diligence when it comes to countering snipers on the enemy team

[frank magnet]

Make it so we dont loose rank if some 1 leaves

[sullen shore]

bugs

[fluid raptor]

Lol I think you just suck at tracking. You can still do a lot of damage on higher ranges. I DO think they should give fcar its old recoil back, now that the damage got nerfed. But they barely changed anything damage wise, kills are mostly still as quick as they were in s1. I DO miss the old roof climbing though. You can still climb on roofs with perfect execution, at least when the roof is low enough but it's just not the same level of freedom and feels limiting. I wish there was more technical and skill and movement tech in general but oh well...

[last vine]

please make xbox communication more consistent after death and just in general.

[brave sable]

i don’t get why y’all type essays in here the devs ain’t reading all that

[quaint pebble]

The characters don’t match on the ranked screen after a round. It looks like it matches the character chosen on the main screen rather than in match. I’m in a match with 2 mediums and I’m heavy but on the overview screen it shows 2 heavies

[crystal cave]

You guys should add a fists as a weapon for the heavy, straight fists. Heavy’s are really fat so it just makes sense

[young smelt]

then what would their quick melee be?

[unique wasp]

command grab

[glacial knot]

Do you think i m dumb or what i also played sword and i know how it works if you kill every player within 2 hits you never miss even one hit thats cheating because even melee if you dont have aim lock you should miss some hits.

[finite briar]

Embark please add more contestant slots. Nine would be a good number

[clear hemlock]

Never said you were dumb but this response is somewhat interesting. It's very easy to get hits unless your on controller or something. Especially since you can alter your aim while lunging. Getting the melee on heavies is very easy. It's only hard on lights

[rigid oxide]

is there a minimum threshold to participate to the community event?

I've done 3 games or so with decent damage and it still says 0 contribution

ok ty! I really want my f2p bro to get this tanktop

yup! just had to wait like 15 mins, thanks for the reassurance though!

[prisma vault]

it's delayed I believe, check back later it should show you contributed

[coarse junco]

add skibidi toilet gun

[potent solar]

honestly coming back to it after all the complaints I didn't have a problem with them using HM even with cheese builds. where else in the game are people gonna snipe? all the other combat takes place indoors. seems like a lot of people sure like to play it for it being anti finals

[quaint pebble]

I don’t play much powershift but sniper kinda ruin it on skyway and Monaco sorta. But how do you balance it 🤷‍♂️ you can’t exactly nerf the sniper because of the other modes. Maybe make it a pick up weapon like a power up, limited ammo but super op. I still found that I could play with them but they do make it unenjoyable.

[worldly scaffold]

You are so pipelined with this, so, a lot of people used nukes, they seemed to enjoy it, why touch it? It was fun for them, surely everybody was having fun, right? Sniper rifle has no place in this game, as it is now, period. Nukes were more Finals, than SR is.

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage to around 50-70 and give it two shots. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[stark notch]

what names are you seeing? @opaque dock

[crisp bolt]

can we pls for the love of god do something about light stacking im so tired of every other game getting 2 light teammate and losing cause they die to a sneeze. it makes the game unplayable and pointless when i have 2 braindead lights running around with snipers getting no kills im sick of it

[glacial knot]

And he killed the wohle team solo me heavy, one medium and one light. Dont justify cheating , i told you i play this fucking game since beta i know what i m talking about. Pleaee dear devs verify also sword hit rates not only rifles accuracy, guys who dont miss any hit with melee are cheating

[slow sparrow]

Hot take keep the aoe damage on yhe melee weapons it makes them feel way better to use if you have good timeing and skill with it and its not an exploit like phantom striking which NEEDS to be fixed also bring back looking around when reviving /cashing out it was a great quality of life change also can we get icons letting us know which platforms others are on aka pc player seeing that their team is on xbox and plastation or plastation and xbox seeing that their team is on pc or the other

[deft jetty]

when you hit the enemy with a vanishing bomb everyone but them should get cloaked on their screen, even their teammates... other than that, solid game.

[crystal umbra]

6 DAYS PEFT UNTIL THE NEW SEASON!!!

HUZZAH‼️‼️

[potent solar]

@quaint pebble @worldly scaffold what loadouts do you run? I'll try it. I used to play a ton of powershift then moved to ranked because it was a more consistent challenge.. now coming back it is significantly easier. you spend much time in ranked? it helped me out

Watching someone play PS doing the same thing over and over then complaining about snipers but keep on dying to 1v3 HM fights. all they gotta do is get height to get on the platform or run through a building or even wait to pick a fight. idk man

[swift laurel]

every game has multiple throwing knife kids locking onto people with aim assist and dashing around the place and that shit is busted, the game has never been such a drag

[zinc haven]

this is what Terminal Attack should have been.

[vale acorn]

just do 5v5v5 at this point and welcome the chaos

[quaint pebble]

Yeah I used to only play ranked, but I’m playing a lot of terminal attack as well. in ranked ill play m60 or flamethrower/sledge for fun with charge or mesh. Sometimes I play goo but I’m not great with it and don’t wanna throw for my teammates but it is funny gooing people. Medium I play anything except riot shield. If I have 2 heavies I run heal with double movement or if there’s a lot of heavies in the match I’ll run aps. Light I usually play lh1/mp5 sword without exploit with dash. I like running sonar or tracking and gateway

[fathom niche]

Just learn that XDefiant are doing what the finals should have done months ago

Add kill cams
Add the ability to talk to the other team upon death

Im not sure why the developers are dropping the bag here, but you are, and it’s a disappointment.

I told you weeks ago, you need to steal the mature cod base, that misses old school S&D lobbies, there’s MILLIONS OF US.

now you can sit back and watch XDefiant do that exact move because Ubiscum wants that money

[sweet apex]

I wish i can post a video.. Riot shield was sprinting towards me and had a clear view of the head/torso then bullets were just hitting the shield. Doesn’t make sense.

[crisp heart]

plss embark pls add HUD SAFEZONE or constrain the hud to a 16:9 area pls, on 32:9 aspect ratio it is difficult to see health in the middle of a fight and many times averting your eyes to look at ur health can be dangerous. i know this is a niche problem but your game works flawlessly with 32:9 otherwise

[graceful hollow]

they should remove 3 and leave it at 1 per class

[waxen hornet]

can i please get my danger ping back to the scroll wheel

[next flax]

Just double tap ping

[leaden wagon]

Novel idea - in Ranked if you go 10 & 3 and only lose the 1st round by lets say $1000, maybe instead of goind down in rank there's no change? tired of doing well and losing when my teammate gets no kills at all

[warm mauve]

I know you guys do a bang up job with cheaters: please investigate ManPigeon#3979

[quick mason]

All of the DCs in ranked are unbearable. Just so fun to have so many games where I don’t have a full team. Not fun at all. About to uninstall the game.

[potent solar]

cool, so I recently needed to finish the masters challenges - HM dmg, lmg / ar dmg, shot / melee, and 2x 2500 heal beam. So I ran lmg with charge / mesh, lewis / m60 / sa12, dome, rpg, barricade or goo sledge with the same. in ps we went against several all sniper teams and I hunted them as a heavy with goo sledge. Med was heal ar / model aps movement revive and was fine.

I guess you're not the other guy but all these builds were fine in ps? Id say as a heavy mesh was easiest and just put barricades on the walls of the platform for snipers and alternate with dome (or grab goo grenades). I actually really like running turret riot aps pad fib in ps. I do think though it can be brutal for new players and some of the mm is to blame

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage to around 50-70 and give it two shots. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[stark notch]

Lower rpgs damage to around 50-70 and give it two shots. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[clear hemlock]

This guy gets it ^

[sharp kraken]

LET US QUEUE UP WHILE IN PRACTICE RANGE FFS

[young smelt]

Find players in this server to play with or play with your friends

[arctic pumice]

Oh my gosh 5v5v5 would be so fun @vale acorn

[stoic marten]

Increase rpgs damage by around 50-70 and give it four shots. Remove any delay to mesh shield so you can open it instantly. Add a healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Dont add healing bombs. Add another turret with manual control. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Remove the stun gun and dont add a replacement gadget like first closed beta. Dont make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette and dont make glitch grenades cancel it. Allow lights to have slower regen. Make the grapple worse too.

[slow sparrow]

Its not phantom range it is where a sword user is able to cancle the lunge after it hits and get a normal strike in-between the next lunge/another normal strike with out the animation playing the dagger should 100% 1 shot on back stab (there for there needs a buff to be able to 1 shot a heavy)between the range you need to be to hit it and skill it takes to get that close and hit the stab(the 180° range on it allowing for hitting them in the side needs a nerf)

[leaden wagon]

Really hope we see a clearer idea of where we are after each game in the ranking system. I wanna now know many wins I have to get to level up, it feels a lil meaningless without that info

[broken spoke]

For some reason when a person leaves a lobby in progress or queque lobby they can't comeback nor a new person isn't able to join anyone having this issue?

[subtle schooner]

Can the grenade launchers please do grenade damage I beg.

[cyan pilot]

Cosmetics that do not match the hitbox of contestants make it significantly harder to aim at the right spot, please give us an option to toggle them off (dino head, tv head)

[graceful sequoia]

PLEASE BAN THE FUCKING RAGE QUITTERS

[solemn burrow]

^^^ ^ or make a cooldown on that specific gamemode (they leave powershift they are banned from the mode for like 10 minutes)

[blazing dew]

Why the actual fuck have I not lost in the first round, against plat 1s and diamond players, and have gone down 6 tics as a plat 3 player

[stark notch]

Increase rpgs damage by around 50-70 and give it four shots. Remove any delay to mesh shield so you can open it instantly. Add a healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Dont add healing bombs. Add another turret with manual control. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Remove the stun gun and dont add a replacement gadget like first closed beta. Dont make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette and dont make glitch grenades cancel it. Allow lights to have slower regen. Make the grapple worse too.

[rustic lion]

when a team gets wiped the other teams should get health back scaled to the amount of damage they contributed to the team wipe to help against third partying

[potent solar]

have you considered a behavior score like dota2 for abadoners / greifers? maybe they need win a number of games or get a specific objective score to return to mm with decent players. otherwise things like the ability to communicate in game (ie text chat ban) and server quality or queue times are affected

[rose verge]

in ranked sure, in non ranked hell no, if im getting massacred by cheaters i dont want to stay in the game, if im playing a bunch of scummy losers that play 5 deep and circle jerk with healing beam, i want the option to leave the cancerous game without penalty

[wheat shoal]

BETTER ANTI CHEAT PLS

[keen skiff]

just had a powershift game where my team started with one less player. never once did another join during that game, which cost us the win. I don't know if there just wasn't enough people queueing (which probably wasn't the case) but the backfill didn't work at all

[glacial knot]

Just report , next ban wave you will see them here in the chat crying because they get banned

[solemn linden]

to the sword players who know all the fancy movement: is it just skill issue or why does it suddenly feel like narrow timings between quick melees and sword hits AND pretty much all the movement feels a bit desynced sometimes? I have the feeling that with the last patch or hotfix for whatever reason the sword has become a lot more sensitive to higher ping / server load . In some games I dont have any problem, in others literally every single attack and move feels wrong, happens more often with double cashouts. basic attacks like simple lunges and regular right-leftclick combos from 3 meters are not affected of course

[drowsy cargo]

Servers/performance can't keep up with basic item manipulation at speed. It's probably terrible for everything, and they may be stealth testing stuff for upcoming emote cancel changes.

[cold bolt]

really balanced that you can easily manipulate a good team out by just doubling 5&6 and forcing a 9v3 situation I feel so bad for them, we got two free cashouts in a row with almost no fighting then just low grav'd the cashboxes and helped the red team win

[delicate marlin]

Final rounds suck. Very dependent on rng like spawns and cashout locations

[robust nexus]

Day 18 of me begging embark to please put a Scottish Kilt into the game

[last vine]

⚠️ DANGER PING ⚠️

[empty pelican]

hi guys, does anyone have the problem where you have completed all the circuit challenge but have not received the AK circuit cosmetic?

[quartz shell]

🗣️ FOLLOW ME PING🏃‍♂️

[kindred crypt]

literally just spent 10mins queuing for ranked and got put into a tournament with no teammates lmfao AWESOME

[native helm]

I have a friend that is colorblind, it'd be great if there was an option to just permanently set the colors for the 3-4 teams in the game to something "fixed" (custom), so that we could avoid a scenario like pink/purple which isn't great, or just many of the other possible combinations that end up being very difficult to distinguish.

genuine props for even having a colorblind mode in the first place, but I believe it can be so much better for probably not an unreasonable amount of effort

[keen skiff]

the amount of people that disconnect during casual games is crazy. I just had a quick cash game where all my teammates and a whole other team left at the start and it was just me versus a fully stacked team the whole time. additionally the previous few matches I had I was always down a teammate as well. the backfill sucks. the fact that there is no real penalty for leaving casual matches sucks. this constant habit of people disconnecting just because they don't like how the match is going sucks and is bad for the game. this has become apparent especially recently, as the game is very clearly dying out unless the devs decide to do something about these numerous issues that make the game almost unbearable to play at this point. stop just making lazy reskins of cosmetics and fix the things players have actually asked for🙏

[willow leaf]

Now these are suggestions I can get behind. Fully support

[stark notch]

yeah thats why rank doesnt matter. its all RNG. you can be the best team in the world but having the entire lobby dogpile on your cashout and steal last second can get you knocked out

[visual sierra]

There's a ton of gadgets that really have no relevence in the game right now. I'm hoping the next season makes some of the lesser used gadgets more useful

[woven meadow]

Throwing knives consistently seem to wipe entire teams. Playing heavy has never felt worse

[potent solar]

Yo embark how about you give us attribute sliders and let us mess with weapon balance in our custom lobbies? ie mag size, speeds, dmg etc could be tuned before and during the rounds (like an admin)..

Maybe add it to the practice range too, like custom weapon tuning

Then if something becomes popular you can just plug it in. who knows maybe some crazy balance mixes could become new game modes

[glacial knot]

Ban cronus zen like fortnite, i faced console player using rapid fire . @grizzled forum @whole umbra

[sonic spoke]

please have statues do damage when we throw them at people and make it a challenge 😛

[slow sparrow]

Hot take keep the aoe damage on yhe melee weapons it makes them feel way better to use if you have good timeing and skill with it and its not an exploit like phantom striking which NEEDS to be fixed also bring back looking around when reviving /cashing out it was a great quality of life change also can we get icons letting us know which platforms others are on aka pc player seeing that their team is on xbox and plastation or plastation and xbox seeing that their team is on pc or the other

[delicate marlin]

whats the point on not being able to change weapons. My game crashed on launch and I was stuck with flame thrower on sys horizon, the worst map for it

[cloud jungle]

Please check what's wrong with the destruction. It keeps getting worse every patch.

[tame quest]

Add a sound effect when people send a party invite, it sucks just staring at the screen endlessly.

[azure jolt]

The throwing knife changes are way too potent, they definetly need to be toned down significantly

[polar topaz]

They have to block the enemies’ entrance to the Spawn

[cold bolt]

>one up arrow after losing final round
>look at rank half an hour later when updated
>went down in rank

Can we not have the arrows straight up lie to us

also quite unreasonable that you have to win the final round just to go up at all in diamond, SR needs so much work with how it's calculated

if you place second out of a tourney that included 8 teams initially I'm inclined to say you should go up

edit: please ignore literally everyone asking for balancing changes here revolving around qp modes

[compact trellis]

NERF LH1 TOO HIGH OF TTK DONT EVEN HAVE TO BE GOOD TO DROP 30 BOMBS WITH IT

[eternal wigeon]

Please add spawn protection on Powershift Skyway Stadium, if a team's getting crushed, the other team can just start spawncamping them.

[zenith tundra]

We need something to counter a complete team of lights on powershift with throwing knives lmao

[proud minnow]

Revert throwing knives or buff everything else

[dapper python]

can i stop being punished in ranked for when i dont have a third teammate?

[woven meadow]

Agreed

[dusk anvil]

Yea no the throwing knives are way too much. We ran a three'stack light team with them and it was waaay overpowered

[quiet frost]

Sound wave grenade that disorients opponents kinda like a flash bang almost or an ice grenade that slows player movement also BRASS KNUCKLES/POWER FISTS FOR HEAVY

[carmine thistle]

Just cause you're stomping bots in casual modes, don't mean you gotta ruin it for the ranked players

[stark notch]

whats sad is you didnt need to win tournaments before to get positive elo or 'fame'...them making it 3 rounds instead of 4 has made it a worse experience. I remember the days when we could see our exact rank progress with actual numbers.

unfortunately this game is dying and dropping fast, so they had to make tournaments shorter to have faster queue times lol

[glacial sierra]

i'd take a brass knuckle 'skin' for the hammer

[autumn sedge]

The throw knives change was perfect, Embark. Now they're way more fun to play, unlike before where it was a constant struggle. Don't listen to everyone complaining about them being too powerful; the same thing happened with dagger after the hotfix, the amount of players using it will slowly go down and so will people complaining

[haughty bay]

Reduce damage on knives or reduce health for light class, and reduce distance for respawn when cash out is still owned by the team after wipeout

Worst update ever 🤡 , no new content, same old outfits, similar game mods

Questioning my gameplay is the most clown response, my username is Ironsight bring your knives,
And it is broken everyone knows

[viral lichen]

reducing light health wont fix knives oneshotting them lmao

Feels like you cant beat a throwing knives light if you are using any other gun unless you massively outskill them

[rugged temple]

Honestly I find throwing knives are a bad matchup against most of light's guns

[lost linden]

PLEASE FIX RANKED SYSTEM, I have played all day and was able to get to the second round about every game even with playing against players who are higher rank than me even when beating them I still don’t rank up, im plat 4 and everyone else is plat 1 in my lobbies and even when I beat them a qualify to the higher rounds I still don’t change my rank, why is this

[dusk anvil]

Yea absolutely do not touch the lights health. the Problem is with the weapon, not the class. I think the aim assist addition is nice but its be best to reduce it slightly or reduce the damage. It really is extremely overpowered. I should not be able to 2-tap a medium I was barely aiming at.

[wise cliff]

istg they've introduced more bugs with each patch

[woven meadow]

I was trying to say they deal absurd at melee range with little counterplayability even as a heavy who is best at closer ranges

[proven crown]

Often, I pull the trigger on the RPG, then swich back to primary, but because of latency and netcode (I think) - the RPG doesn't fire, and instead I just switch weapons. Happens every session and costs the team

[teal minnow]

When choosing your weapon ,gadget or specialization there should be a pros - cons window

[fast flare]

Give light heal bomb

[carmine thistle]

Yo that would actually be kinda dope

[hardy bridge]

Counterplay: shoot the fucking light

[opal swallow]

True

[wise cliff]

Based and would literally remove half of the complaints of balancing for gadgets, specs and weapons that have clear counters

[proven crown]

Please fix nade trajectory indicator

[opal heron]

Fix binds on controller you can't switch to your weapon when your holding an object

[glacial sierra]

the weird massive performance drops (huuuuuge stutter) since the last one or two updates (maybe 2.10 or 2.09?)seemingly triggered by lots of physics-based items being in player vicinity is weird, and game-ruining for a game like this.

[rancid cloud]

What happened to backfill? My Bank It games don't backfill anymore.

[viral lichen]

Update don my opinion of throwing knives
After never playing them before tonight I am consistently landing tons of kills and very easy picks. Anyone who can defend such an easy high performance weapon is either got a skill issue or wants to protect their crutch

[marsh turret]

Question for the devs. Now That our pink set for the community event is maxed out and we'll be moving into new iteams / sets can we get the whole set in the outfit section? Where it shows all the battlepass skins? It just makes it easier to see what I have and if i want to equip everything at once.

Thank you 🙏

#game-announcements message

[cold bolt]

from diamond perspective throwing knives are same/worse than running xp smg and changes nothing about the fact running light is a throw in ranked, from a qp perspective it's very easy to get high kill games with bc of the amount of clueless players standing still and alone

gonna go out on a limb and say the high kill throwing knives players were probably gonna drop 20+ in your lobby with an xp or sword anyways if throwing knives didn't get buffed

[rough herald]

✨ Wow ✨ im so good at this game, i wonder how many kills i hav-

[mossy tinsel]

Las Vegas power shift?

[stoic sleet]

Has the game already been canceled? There is no new content, except of course in the cash store, which is flooded with overpriced junk every few days. No new maps, boring events that are always the same, and no real customization of weapons or gadgets. You'd think you were playing an Activision game...

[wheat turtle]

Stop giving me games that are practically done

[rancid cloud]

Please backfill games so that my games aren’t forever empty.

[hexed abyss]

I need the health bars to be a little thicker, somewhere in the middle of how it used to be and how it is now, I have eye sight issues and sometimes it just isnt clear at all and It's hard for me to call out how much health the guy has left.

[royal jungle]

make TA as ranked mode and add a heavy sniper with separate scope in sensi

[fast flare]

respectully, what?
-weeky patches
-new map every season so far
-strong playerbase
-this game has one of the most friendly pricing on everything, you dont need to spend a penny, and in like 3 free battle passes you can get the paid battle pass, gaining like 50% more than you spend when you buy the battle pass (and it actually has good skins)
-Events such as do dmg or kill for skins
-new gamemodes
so much content good sir

[inland monolith]

I bet you anyone that is complaining about light throwing knives is a quick cash warrior or is a heavy/medium main. The pick rate of light in ranked is so low compared to heavy and medium as they have way better gadgets and weapons than what light has not only that they have more health. There are so many easy ways to kill and damage a light such as using an rpg or a using a few mines. If you struggle doing the above maybe stick with your team and team shoot together. Embark if you want to maybe nerf the throwing knifes in the future, just make a capacity on how many knives you can throw before reloading a pouch or something. Keep the damage the same but make a capacity on how many knives you can throw before reloading.

[pseudo latch]

Day 80 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[oblique kite]

I am begging u to add kbm support to console

[hard badger]

why buff throwing knifes? It was already good enough imo ...

[wispy vault]

thats honestly really annoying having the METEOR SHOWER and shit above the scoreboard

also whats with the crosshair being all jittery since ever, will it ever be fixed?

[carmine thistle]

ON GOD

[placid panther]

You can use dash while getting defibd please fix

[quick coyote]

The game needs time penalties for leaving games, regardless of whether it is casual or ranked.
This would make players actually care more about finishing the game, that they were searching for.

Ok maybe not for the casual modes - It would be rough, but still for ranked it's needed

[shy sentinel]

yes i have so many teammates that leave early all the time giving them like a cool down would definitely help

[quick coyote]

The task is too difficult, can it be changed to be simpler? I am only one task away from getting the Rainbow AK, but there has been no progress for many days. Steal the withdrawal in progress 10 times, which is this task, and it is very difficult to complete.😱

[tough sapphire]

you still have a visual and audio bug where it a team being wiped with the sound even tho theyre not

[frigid lotus]

THANK YOU EMBARK FOR LETTING ME PLAY AGAIN

[umbral spruce]

Just play for stealing It, i used to play heavy with shields for stealing safer

[graceful sequoia]

Oh yeah for sure I was meaning ranked. In pubs idc if someone quit, I do it aswell in certain situations

[rough igloo]

Pls nerf throwing knives

[quick coyote]

This thing should be at launch, but as you can see, devs don't really care about the game. Like I said, all changes they've made were based on hit or miss probability.
They should ask for a test players that actually will give them good enough feedback.
It is not easy, but they should start doing it now

[devout thicket]

personal opinion but I think others might agree, I hate the low effort that's put in 90% of the skins and the other 10% are some girly skins. Put some more effort in the skins, not just slap another pattern texture on them and call it a day. Hire external studios if you have to, but this whole season with a few exceptions has been mediocre skin after mediocre skin. I understand reusing assets is easier, but you cant ask for €20 for a skin that is just an old skin with rearranged assets, kneepad is on the other side and the color of the texture is changed.

[high tartan]

Lots of the stickers you can put on your weapon are AI generated. I hope they stop using a tool that steals from artists and hire actual people for it in the future.

[strange niche]

this is so funny, all you have to do is play the game bro lmao. maybe try and play the objective as a heavy with a dome shield or a invis light player.

[tired bronze]

Didn't realise this. Got any more info on it?

[cyan wadi]

3 light skins
3 heavy skins
2 medium skins

why? just why?

[stark venture]

Hopefully we get a jukebox in season 3
:3

[glad vapor]

I think medium has gotten plenty of skins. I mean, the AKM has like 20 of them already

[quick coyote]

If you want to see people leaving after 1 minute then go ahead

[fickle linden]

-feedback

[spiral light]

Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

[rancid cloud]

I disagree for casual games. I'd rather have a backfill player that doesn't mind being backfilled than a player there from the start that doesn't want to be there.

[floral plover]

Oscar is an Oscar now?

[wary obsidian]

Sorry, everyone, this next paragraph may take up a little of your time. I was banned for no reason. It is said that I cheated, but I have never cheated since the beginning of the 3rd test. But I don't know why I got permanently banned. I went to the official website to report that I cheated. I would like to ask what I did to be judged as a cheater by the system?

[iron solar]

Plz fix the fact that since 2.9 I can't play the game anymore, launching the game just says I need to enable secure boot (it is and always was enabled in my bios) on valid hardware

[solid lantern]

Can we please ( which I’m sure it’s being worked on anyways ) get a fix for ranked? The matchmaking is absolutely horrible, I’m a Gold 2 player facing teams of diamond players, and my teammates are legit new players… so I’m stuck carrying my brand new player teammates against the highest ranks of the game… I know it’s a newer game but I just REALLY don’t want ranked in this game to be a nonstop unbalanced mess.

[lavish shard]

You dont like knife game ??🤣🤣

[tender minnow]

if heavy isnt substantially nerfed by s3 and HML isnt the meta, do not expect any growth for this game

[cyan wadi]

what about the cl-40, revolver, riot shield and 1887 then? or what about the heal beam and turret? i fully agree that the devs have been picking faves with the akm since season one but giving medium only 2 skins while the other 2 classes get 3 skins each because of that just feels weird. is it really that much effort for them to include one more skin just to make it even?

@ember locust im talking about the bundle specifically
it's not the medium being favored but the akm gettign sucked off as usual

[digital vine]

devs dont make the new ak skin not able to switch anymations just bought it and it dindt say it anywhere so i had no idea about it jus please make the ak able to use animations

[ember locust]

? wdym medium only got 2 skins? It got one for famas, one for fcar and one for akm @cyan wadi you should realize it got one less in the bundle because it got one that's better outside of it. If anything medium is favored here

[wind flame]

The flamethrower is a bit overtuned. it's the best heavy weapon weapon at the moment, and doesn't feel good to go against. i have a few points on it.

• It deals a high up front damage. if you get hit by just the first tick of damage, it's 30 dmg up front, and (im not entirely sure about the numbers) like 50 D.O.T. meaning 80 damage from just getting sneezed at.
• It's quite hard to fight back, since the flame makes it harder to see your target. This is like a "Secret" buff, since it's hard to balance numbers around subjective measures, like how hard something is to see.
• The "fire" rate is quite high, so it's 30 damage every 0.3 seconds or so (feels like that, i dont have the numbers). Which makes the DPS feel insanely high, when you factor in the native fire damage as well. so on paper, it looks weak, but the added 90-100 damage from being on fire means you will die from more than 1 second in the fire.
• The speed at which a heavy runs with the flame thrower is quite fast. You dont really have the option to run away, since the heavy isn't that much slower than the medium normally, but when firing, the speed isn't reduced by a significant amount to make a change.

This all means that fighting a flame thrower is like the following. You spot the flame thrower, but have to go back to heal because you just got half HP'd from being in his range for 1/3 of a second. When you then go to fight him again, full hp. you try and fight him and get "blinded" by the flames, meaning you can't get perfect headshots that you need to win. Next time you try and only shoot him at range, but then when he gets in range, you run away. and you will most likely still die.

Im a good player, but i get "scared" when i have to fight a new player with a weapon they dont have to aim as much with. They nerfed the FCAR because it was too good in skilled players hands. Well, the flamethrower is too good in newbies AND skilled hands.

[stray valley]

Please make a change to the 1887 to either increase bullet spread or increase the minumum damage like how fortnite increased min from 9 dmg to 30 dmg. being a whole 2 metres away from someone and hitting absolute peanuts because i only hit like 4 pellets is incredibly boring.

and i mean look at that shot, to me that looks like i hit every pellet as well. medium shotty needs some looking at.
PS ily hardworking devs this game has gotten me back into pvp

@twin heart that hit most definitely reged look at the health

[twin heart]

Each pellet on 1887 deals 16 damage, this isn't the weapon issue but prob a no-reg

Edit: not fully as you can see, a single pellet landed. Could've also been a desync and not a no-reg with the game showing you landing multiple pellets but only one actually landing

[chrome citrus]

It's just casual games nothing serious. Some ppl queue quick cash till their friend gets on to play ranked then leaves half way through.

[tough sapphire]

maybe the dev should buff another medium weapon to counter the flamethrower instead of nerfing another weapon... maybe you should have the fire extinguisher stop the flame effect or the healing beam stopping the flame effect. Tbh if you face a heavy with flamethrower use 1887 flash or frag then push. I dont think we need to change anything about the flamethrower its just that you cannot push a fully healed heavy with a flamethrower. however its true that heavies playing together can be overpowered. @wind flame

[quick coyote]

you are right there, but still it is needed for ranked imo. But it is also annoying on causal when around 50% of lobby leaves

[pseudo latch]

Shit, what flamethrower are you playing with? Flamer has the lowest consistent damage output of any weapon in the game at around 80 DPS, up to about 95 when factoring in the burn. Heavy is stuck at his same snail-pace speed when using it too so literally just walk backwards as any class but another heavy and you’re out of it because surprise, 7 meters is a tiny range too. Also, the burn from flamer is 30 damage over two seconds, I don’t know where the hell 90-100 came from

Literally every weapon in the game besides the sniper rifle comfortably beats flamer in a head to head DPS test, and very few of them are as badly gimped on range as flamer, so there’s never a “head to head” fight anyways, it’s just flamer heavy getting kited to death.. Respect heavies space and it’s really not that bad to deal with.

[spice crescent]

The new "No Oasis" bucket hat hides hairstyles whereas the other bucket hat that you get from the career progression does not. Might be something unintended?

[young smelt]

Season 3 is coming out in less than a week. Loser comment

[ember locust]

did we make the 18 billion dmg btw?

[high tartan]

here's all the stickers listed https://thefinals.blog/stickers-the-finals/ there are a ton of inconsistencies in the designs which makes it recognizable that it's AI generated. Examples where it's super visible are: "Hoppy Easter" (check the ears for example), "Lil' Rusty" (generally the toes are super crooked and also general inconsistencies that make it visible that it's not drawn by a human) and "Goblin' up fate" where the torso looks very off, but also the dice is crooked and a lot of other smaller inconsistencies. I think most of the stickers that are available in-game (for actual money too) are AI generated which is an absolute bummer and super disrespectful towards all actual artists.

[wind flame]

well, speaking in hyperbole, it's easy to make stuff sound not as bad. "just walk backward" doesn't work. even without firing. a medium walking backwards is slower than a heavy moving forwards. even while the heavy is shooting the flamethrower (you can test it in the practice range)

7 meters isn't tiny when it's over 60% of a house floor, or even 2 floors in height. so if the heavy isn't in the very corner of a building, he can cover the entirety of it.

The practice range dummies dont burn as long as contestants do, so i think that's where you are confused about the fire damage.

As i said in the original post. to beat a flame heavy, you need to hit mainly headshots, and not miss a bullet. given that takes a lot of skill normally, not factoring in the flame covering the target. and the heavy just has to fire and look in the general direction. the heavy can kill a medium with less than 8 of 30 uses of his flamer, but the medium has to hit half his clip to kill a heavy ( bodyshots ). and that test is even skewed towards medium, since im testing in the practice range, where the flamer doesn't do as much damage as in a real game, given the dummies only take 1 - 2 fire ticks of damage after you stop shooting.

if you just look at the numbers on a page, you wont know how it is in a game, since you can't put speed difference, DOT and visual impairment on paper. Even if the medium wins, they will most likely still die given the 4-6 fire ticks you get after the heavy dies. a raw DPS test means nothing in the game, since there are many facters other than pure dps that determines the winner of a fight.

[north tundra]

I've noticed that the Holtow fine print skins don't allow for using other animations with them equipped, is there a specific reason for this or is it a bug?

[tired gulch]

probably cuz its not the same model so theyre not compatible

[pseudo latch]

Lord it’s too early in the morning for this… no, medium walking backwards at worse matches heavy walking forwards, and if that’s too slow, sprint back instead. Flamer is insanely easy to kite between its short range and heavies slow speed. I would know, I use the damn thing.

Seven meters is tiny when it’s literally only covering half a room, that other half of the room is you beaming heavy down before they’re close enough to even hurt you, and at that point if you’re at any risk you just throw yourself out a window and reposition.

I’m not talking about practice range dummies, I’m talking about the afterburn on actual players. It’s 30 damage over two seconds, it’s downright pitiful damage.

A flamer heavy can walk up, start a fight, land their shots perfectly, and still lose to literally every medium and heavy gun through its sheer, disgusting lack of damage output, and even some light weapons will cause that fight to trade. Thats implying they ever let you get that close. A smart light will never get anywhere near a heavy the moment they know they have a flamer, and medium has just enough health to win those trades. These are not headshot damage fights, these are just “oh, there’s a flamer heavy, I’m gonna shoot them 20 times in the gut and win”. Flamer is not doing “less damage in practice mode” and even if it was, I am once again referring to ingame damage output.

I’m not looking at the numbers on the page, I am confirming both from the stats we know and personal experience that flamer is mediocre at best, and a modicum of respect towards flamer heavies is all they’d required to deal with them. And not even that considering how bad its damage is.

[prime bane]

Buff: M60 (small buff), KS-23, MGL, and the entire light class
Nerf: Lewis Gun
Cosmetic: Make it so that upper body clothes w/ hoods attached can put their hood down/up

[deft jetty]

would be cool to revert the lewis back to hoow it was around xmas time, just to see what that was all aboout.....

[nova veldt]

FIIIIIIIXXX NOOOO SWING ANIMATION ON HAMMMERRRRRRR, THIS BUG OR GLITCH BEEN IN THE GAME FOR 7 MONTHSSS

[rain scarab]

Guys, you really disbalanced whole game with buffing knives. All games since last week are polluted with Lights with swords, daggers and knives. Sword guys are cencelling animation and you can't do a thing even with full stack of good players. Playing ranked in diamond lobby is impossible, quick games are now ONLY lights. How did it happened?

Plus also make rating more enjoyable by not punishing team when someone left. It is not possible to win while you're alone against trios.

[quick coyote]

honestly? i have to agree. im already tired of the reskins, especially paid ones. how many variants of the jacket hoodie we are gonna have? is so silly at this point.

[north tundra]

I can understand that for other models that drastically change the design of the gun but all the Holtow skins really add is the receipt printer on the side

[valid salmon]

It would be cool if I could select the individual colors I want my enemy to have. Once every 2-3 games, the colors of the enemy look almost the same (pink, pink combined with orange, and orange, or dark green with light green) no matter which colorblind setting I choose. The colors sometimes just align with each other, and because I can't use good graphics, they also look foggy, which confuses the teams and ruins my games. Just let me pick red, green, and yellow by default.

[pseudo latch]

That’s respectable, the idea is that 220 is only gonna be 220 real close up, I would want the spread on it to be pretty atrocious (think how wide M60 hipfire spread is). Light would have a lot of space to back up or get out of the way, or a warning they’re about to turn the corner into one by the loud rev-up. Past 10, even 5 meters, 220 dampens out to half pretty quick.

It definitely wouldn’t be 220 damage over all 200 bullets, at that point it wouldn’t be worth using for combat at all. I do want fighting with it to be an option, but I want it to be a worse weapon than heavies primaries unless your target is disrespecting the authority of a revved up minigun, in which they deserve to get swissed.

I don’t want this to become a “second primary” but I do want it to exist as a tool to force people to back off and respect heavies authority, or else.

I’m also considering an existing drain while holding out the minigun to keep you from just sitting there all day holding it, but I’m not sure about that one.

[late parcel]

fix the matchmaking please
just got 3 games in a row on a losing team with only a few seconds left and almost every other game one of my teammates leaves

[carmine thistle]

if you add another rank Keep the consistency of rewards you obtain for Highest rank achieved that season

[spark shard]

I raised this the whole 2nd season, nothing, 0 changes about the matchmaking. Solo players have been a trash and unfair season for ranked tournaments, totally the opposite for those who play as a team are diamonds, probably the easiest season for them. Congratz for doing nothing. I guess you dont want to change matchmaking in the middle of the season, but the season takes to much days, dont expect to play a whole season if the matchmaking for solo players is gonna be the same. Quit and that´s all, at least a full season expecting the next one about matchmaking changes.

[upper tangle]

I would love to hear the music of S1 again ;D Maybe we can get rnd songs mid season 3 or so? so that everytime i get back to the main menu there is music from all older seasons?

[devout thicket]

exactly my point, but not only that, same pants with kneepad switched from right leg to left leg, a pocket used from different pants etc etc, and each one of them paid. I like the crash dummy skin, I like the star face whatever it's called skin, but the rest of them are just copy paste. Season 1 had so much better skins.. I don't want 17 different pattern based skins for the FCAR, I want more like the notepad one, like the fox one etc etc.

[nocturne fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ0gxCCBVhk if this isn't proof that both of these abilities are op then idk what is

[quaint pebble]

Having some balanced team comp helps a lot if it’s just medium then snipers are really strong. But certain maps are stronger than other like skyway is the worst for snipers but syshorizon and Seoul isn’t too bad

[oblique kite]

Nerf Lewis gun
Med is fine
BUFF light
And give us kbm support on console

[subtle copper]

i enjoy the part of the game where sprint randomly stops working

[whole acorn]

why do y'all keep updating without fixing any thing about ranked and how shitty the system is

[quick coyote]

pls add a fucking option to not die from a teammate explosing ennemy mine expressly bro I loose game because people are just 9yo stupid kids @whole acorn because they think like 9yo kid they fix the easiest thing before fixing thing than can improve the game and give fun to players the game is just loosing a lot of players because embark don't listen ranked community

ranked:
set timeout 5 seconds for pings
ban boosted players
timeout 1h for all alt f4
fix crashes
set life

• light 200
• medium 250
• heavy 300
  change speed
• light slower but faster than medium
• medium don't change
• heavy faster but slower than medium
  heavy hammer 175 damage

[spark shard]

They are playing with us, put our mentality to the limit to still playing, knowing this unfair situation. They give to us a false feeling that you can do something, but not. It is what I said here #👂┇game-feedback message

The main issue here is this situation is reaching these players are burning and mentally fatigued, causing quit the game forever.

[arctic lily]

Riot Shield
-Fix the visual bug of the shield obscuring your view when holding an object. Its been like this for multiple patches and reported in the bug channel.
-Let the riot shield either block melee attacks when the shield is up or take reduced damage. Sword and hammer attacks just pierce through it. Same can be said for the heavy's charge and slam.
-The shield is currently using the same logic as terrain when set on fire. Direct hits with a pyro grenade will continue burning the RS user until death whereas every other weapon will just be on fire for a few seconds.

APS
-Remove the nerf that causes it to take damage when blocking a projectiles and just reduce the radius it protects instead. Also make a PSA that explains that damaging right outside the radius with an explosive weapon destroys it all the same. Grenade spam is infinitely worse for the health of the game. I get that it was intended to fix the common strat in powershift, but people are just rolling heavy now instead with barriers and dome shields.

[floral plover]

Embark!! I want to be BOB

[novel lily]

yes

[quick coyote]

Remove Low Gravity, its annoying as fuck.

[summer dagger]

That’s kinda the whole point it’s supposed to throw you off your game to force mistakes

[whole acorn]

i think im quitting this game next sesaon

[polar hill]

This game needs fsr 3.1 fg and dlss 3.7
I suggest updating the game engine to 5.4 in a future patch, as well as updating all available upscaling solutions to newer versions like DLSS to 3.7.0, XeSS to 1.3, and FSR to 3.1 (when that version gets released in the upcoming few weeks). UE 5.4 brings more optimizations which make the performance better and that should improve the general game experience for people in combination with the updated better upscalers. Also, add DirectStorage api to improve loading, there are times where all players are stuck to a loading screen for the match due to singular users with slower machines, and DiSto can eliminate/lower that.

[twin heart]

Someone is actually suggesting waiting for FSR 3.1 instead of rushing a 3.0 for just frame gen? My god, its real

[hardy bridge]

Ranked overhaul is a big thing that cant be done in 1 patch I'm sure it's coming in s3

[cosmic island]

u can make ranks visible in friend list to know what rank have ur friend if u want to invite him in ranked (i mean it will be useful for some random dudes whom u meet in quick)

[lavish shard]

Hp just for ranked its goood idea
Buff light in quikplay is bad idea its everywhere

[glacial oyster]

please can we have more body options for the heavy

i wanna make my heavy look like carlea1 whos a 6.8ft karate champion https://i2.paste.pics/R1YD7.png?rand=5Tth42J96k

[fossil hawk]

in the future if there is ever bonus battle pass pages again, dont make each item take so much xp, its ridiculous. i played the hell out of this season and then had to get spinal fusion surgery because i was barely able to do anything with my severe scoliosis, and just recently ive been feeling good enough to get off the recliner and back into my gaymer chair, and i have like no time to get any of the items and im super bummed. i know making each thing take 40k xp is for player retention but it just kinda causes burnout and takes too long, shits tedious.

edit: my dumbass forgot about dailys smh

[proud kraken]

For the last 2 weeks of the season they've made dailys worth 10k xp so I think that's fair enough

[whole acorn]

i hope so man shit make me wanna cry n i don't even take games this serious all my teammates are fucking throwing the game and i cant stop getting demoted its rare i get a good team even otherwise people just randomly leave or killl themselves like smh i hate playing 80 games just to reach the next rank just to get demoted after one loss shit is so fuckng lame and a waste of time rlly makes me hate it

[terse lark]

please give us the option to turn off glitch effect on clothing

[mild gull]

93r

[graceful sequoia]

I think there are two main reasons why the user base has plummeted:

1. Balance. The Finals is one of the most fun shooters you can play, but when you die for the 468723rd time because of the same cheesy strategy of the moment, it gets really tiring. RPG, CL40, Double Heavy with domes and shields (about 2500 health in total?), I mean... some plays are just ridiculous.

2. Matchmaking. This is honestly the worst SoloQ experience I have ever had. It's becoming impossible to reach diamond when you have teammates with 2 brain cells and no mic, while I have to deal with 2 full-stack teams of diamond players communicating through discord. I don't know what the solution is here, but you can't play solo on above Plat1. So if your friends aren't playing the finals or aren't good, you're screwed. Maybe 2 different queues, one for solo players + duos, and one for trios.

[floral plover]

IF YOU WANT TO JOIN THE BOB GANG!!! Go to #1247567981513412698 and say bob!! Btw all bobs get free ice cream 😉

[zinc haven]

nerf NERF gun

[untold flint]

Buff RPG

[fiery terrace]

Add emotion spam in menu pls, wanna flex my emotions

[subtle copper]

allow heavier classes the option to punt lighter classes

[whole acorn]

How the fuck do you lose 2-3 bars for reaching round 2 ?! Sucha dumbasss fucking concept shit is an insane fucking waste of time fuck ranked deadass shit makes no fucking sense just garbage its like you guys dont know what ur doing with ranked - will there possibly be a second chance to get these diamond camo's you guys got everyone wasting there time to not even get??? sum bullshit.

[tough sapphire]

bro they are going to fix it next season so I think that they just wont change anything this season. We'll see next season what they've been cooking... I've lost 5 games in a row and I wasnt deranked then I won two games and got deranked after losing one... and you wont be able to get the diam camo for this season

[quick coyote]

remove 1 shot knife for light it's fucking cringe it's is too easy just have to use evasive dash and win gg bro

[spark shard]

if you are playing solo, don´t waste your time in ranked, they are playing with our mental mode and burning out.

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/louie-anderson-louie-turn-around-gif-8007964253254972252

[delicate yoke]

Add a simpler mode like team death match, so new players can get used to the feel of the game without having to immediately learn the ropes in quick cash, which can be pretty complicated for a new player. I've had several friends that just didn't want to play after the first game because it was too confusing. I think making a gamemode like this would easily help to retain new players.

[mild gull]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-stare-turn-around-looking-devilcry-gif-22320515
dagger mains hate this one simple trick

[wind hatch]

with all the new games coming out and plenty of other devs being more willing to fix their games. the finals will be completely dead soon

[spice stag]

https://tenor.com/view/louie-anderson-louie-turn-around-gif-8007964253254972252

[summer dagger]

Most ranked placement is bs in games anyway plus it’s really not that bad to get out of bronze or silver only takes a few games

[rapid stream]

Its still good dude

[high wing]

well they def didnt fix the crashing issue, amazing how this game just keep getting worse and worse. just rollback open beta version

[subtle copper]

still need to break up the same meta since a year ago
nerf heavy charge so it doesn't do the initial 140dmg on charge (rest dmg and repositioning strong enough)
nerf mesh shield hp even more
nerf rpg to do 70-75 dmg and be more of an environmental dmg kinda weap
nerf heal beam to do 1/3-1/2 heal during combat with 5s cd before doing full heal

[worn spade]

only 1k players to go down to the historic 5k simultaneously connected players, and I still don't see MnK support for consoles

[low rock]

Yo it's june where's the pride pants from the open beta 👀

[floral plover]

I’m BOB you are BOB!! Together we are strong !! #1247567981513412698

[proper barn]

You should rebrand the whole game to Reach the Finals imo

[shy sphinx]

Add in the ability to send friend's gifts. Like if I wanted to buy a skin for my friend

[fervent vortex]

Balance wise the game is in a perfect state, all classes are equal and lmh is the best comp, just rework ranked add new maps and abilities and a 3v3 mode for ranked

[inland cove]

pls change goo gun the current state of this thing is just a self troll

when i shoot a player with it to stick them, they can just run out the back and the goo stays stuck in the air blocking me from dealing any damage or hunting them down
this makes basically all combat applications of this useless and the only thing left to do is build a bunker (witch is terribly boring)

i understand that the old goo/player interaction was not good since it was possible to permanently trap someone

my suggestion would be to:

• at least have the goo not stay floating in the air
• but best make the goo apply a slow effect and not create a rigid foam if it hits a player. the slow could be indicated by a status effect "gooed" (like burning/EMPed) to have a visual indicator that the slow is applied.

this would mean that:

• It is no longer possible to permanently trap a player
• it is no longer possible to goo yourself up to block incoming damage
• it is no longer possible to interrupt a cashout steal by blocking line of sight to the cashout by gooing up the stealing player
• it is now possible for teammates to more easily damage gooed up enemy players

my suggestion for the "gooed" effect itself:

• duration 2 seconds (possibly less) ( this need to be enough to swap from googun to another weapon (eg. sledgehammer/flamethrower/shotgun) and do some damage before the effect wears out
• slow amount similar to stun gun

please share your thoughts on this 😁

[candid oar]

Ranked is just lights with throwing knives. It's ridiculous and needs to be addressed. They were buffed too much.

[upper citrus]

This is standard in almost every competitive game with an objective. You can go 30-0 and still have played poorly. The objective of the game isn’t to kill people it’s to collect cashouts. The ranking system is meant to rank how good you are at playing the game. if kills influenced your rank then you would have a ton of people just playing for kills and ignoring objectives. Kills shouldn’t matter in terms of ranked gain. But, kills obtained while defending cashouts should give more cash

[gilded sage]

Love the game!
Most nerf requests seem to be made out of anger from being killed by (insert class/weapon/gadget) I don’t think nerfing anything will make the game more fun. Furthermore, I don’t think the players asking for nerfs will ever be satisfied. Whatever you nerf they’ll want it nerfed more and set their sights on another item to grumble about.

Adding more variety and buffing what is weak should be more enjoyable than catering to a vocal minority.

[swift laurel]

throwing knives in their current state make me not want to play the game, its evident they're busted when you see casual is now 80% lights more than half with throwing knives

[dusk plaza]

There has to be a ranking system that prevents you from losing points if one of your teammates leave, cause this shit is really titling

[subtle oak]

Yes! Someone actually using their brain

[quick coyote]

I keep getting this TFGE0027 error repeatedly midway trough any match i play casual/rank anyone have any idea how to fix this?

[violet elbow]

thats the nature of a teamplay focused game tho wtf are you on

[floral plover]

You like this change ?

[clear hemlock]

Only way to be successful quickly in ranked is to 3 stack or play meta heavy build

[wispy sand]

give us a way to ping when dead so we can say we need to change our load out, it is absolutely stupid that you have to suicide or waste time when you need to change your load out. Give back our ping when dead. Its stupid.

Quit forcing me to use a loadout I want to change, so I'm forced to throw the match till I can switch.

[inland cove]

yes pls

[upper citrus]

Here is reasoning for every stat on why tracking them does not work. And why competitive games almost ALWAYS avoid doing this.

Damage/kills: encourages shooting everything you see for a rank up even though it’s very common for the best choice to win the game to be ignoring certain teams

Deposits: Certain classes are better at depositing than others. Often has nothing to do with skill. And will lead to teammates fighting over who gets to deposit the vault

KDA: Will encourage running away from every fight to preserve KDA after getting a few kills. Even if the fight is winnable but the risk to KDA isn’t worth losing ranked points. This also punishes medium with a support focused build

Healing: incredibly easy to cheese. Stand in gas and heal each other for free rank up. Or intentionally take damage from other players and heal each other.

Assists: obviously if kills shouldn’t count then assists shouldn’t either. I don’t think it’s hard to understand why.

Steals: will lead to farming steals with other teams to boost rank as well as intentionally letting other people put the vault in just so you can steal it from them.

And why should wins count? Because it is the only thing that cannot be cheesed and you have control over. You are the common denominator in every match you play and your rank will average out over many matches to reflect what you deserve. Almost every competitive game does this so that people cannot game the system. The actual issue with ranked is that wins sometimes aren’t in your control at all. 3rd partying meta and multiple teams in general is extremely punishing to people who are actually playing the objective. It’s also very common to be griefed in ranked. That needs to be changed, not the criteria for ranking up

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage to around 50-70 and give it two shots. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[past spire]

you gonna say this every day?

[severe girder]

You were removed from the game due to inactivity. Embark ID Raydonman#1893 Error Code TFGE0037. Would have loved to have been active, but I was literally in the match loading screen while I heard the announcers and game happening around me

[fervent vortex]

The devs were going 2, thank god people fought back so hard they changed it, also terminal attack is a shitty Val clone, tourney mode is solid

[quick coyote]

limit tower and mine bro too many people camping with 3 tower less time for c4 to be ok

[strong vessel]

This is all true, but it holds even for 3rd partying and griefing. Sometimes you are the one who third parties, sometimes you're the one getting third partied. In the long run, the better players will tend to win more.

The problem is that players often cannot play that many matches, or that players are emotionally invested in each individual match, which leads to the unfun games leaving a big impression. I partially blame the cashout format itself for this, since the match is basically decided by like 4 team fights (so a negative experience is likely to have had a big impact).

[prime wing]

Explaining to ranked players why team ELO systems are badly made unless you stack with the same team every time is a losing battle my man, unfortunately devs are comfortable with it across the industry so its become the standard to implement a system that doesn't give a reflection of true skill

[plush depot]

Can you please give us a lot more loadouts so I can buy much more skins

[deep egret]

Grenade launcher is so brain dead is making me brain dead

[last swift]

For the love of god add bullet drop to snipers

[severe girder]

I'd love to suggest a bit of a look into spawn direction on Powershift. It's obviously based on where the platform is at the time, but its way too early on facing you towards the hospital on the skyway stadium map. The number of times I'll spawn in and start running only to realize I'm going to exact opposite way of the platform is too high

[polar prairie]

Please no

[swift laurel]

throwing knife is OP in its current state and makes the game a lot less fun to play

[strong vessel]

Idea for new match event: Weapon bonanza: Instead of reloading, you throw your weapon away and get another one randomly. (could be from your own class, or all of them, might need to exclude melee weapons)

[quaint forge]

Can you guys fix the light shotgun? Also I love you guys

[devout thicket]

inb4 goo gun gone next season

[sleek pilot]

especially with summer around the corner, i'd LOVE to see some more T-shirt tops, because as of right now there's really only 2 options that aren't a long-sleeve but rolled up or a tank top. we got plenty of long sleeve tops, and a good amount of tanks, but tees need some more love :((

on that same note, i think we could use a bit more shorts variety that isn't just the Volpe shorts and the various skirts we have

[polar prairie]

Whats wrong w it

[severe girder]

Please fix the XP progress bar when you are max level. It's one thing where it doesn't show you the earned xp, it's another that it also doesn't show you unlocked BP items if you only unlock with match XP. Kind of ruins that fun.

[runic surge]

Desert Las Vegas is the absolute worst map ever desgined in this game. Once taken, the cashouts are almost impossible to take back due to no cover and cashouts usually being located on top of all-seeing high ground. Please fix

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90
• Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)

FIX THE FOV WHEN HOLDING THE SHIELD UP:

• Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many possibilities! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, on the other hand i've barely seen any Light using smoke, especially when they have better gadgets to choose from

[molten comet]

Is it just me or are the SERVERS causing me a crap tone of lag all the time 😭

[rose verge]

to be fair the riot shield hitboxes are also busted so you can shoot the player and it still counts it as hitting the shield, if they fixed that i would fully support them buffing it somehow, i like the idea of the glitch baton because that would be a good counter for heavies with their absurd amount of shields

[terse lark]

please add an option to turn off glitch effect on clothing

[wanton harness]

Stealing a cashout should apply to everyone on team.

[peak pine]

Just got demoted because tm8 left wtf! Fix this crap

[high wing]

servers need to be updated, tired of this bullshit desync like we are still in the fking 90s

[obsidian chasm]

Facts

[hollow moat]

Is there any particular reason why certain weapon skins are locked out of certain animations? I understand for cases like the Ray Gun 51, but I would love weapons like the HOLTOW Fine Print AKM to be able to use animations from the AKM Animation Bundle (But still locking the inspect to the HOLTOW-exclusive one, obviously).

[floral plover]

WHO LIKES BOB THE BUILDER!!! SHOW YOUR SUPPORT ASAP!! #1247567981513412698

[frank ravine]

One thing i was wanting is for the new AKM skin, Holtow Fine Print. I wish i could use my deploy and reload animations that i already own with the skin insted of them being locked out

[inland cove]

yess pls

[acoustic storm]

This

[real saffron]

same here back2back... down 4 arrows now

[astral dust]

! ! ! i got in the lobby and i could still talk with the people from the last game! ! ! ! this is a serious privacy issue ! ! !

[raw blaze]

There should really be a buff for tracking dart. There is pretty much no reason to use it when sonar exsists imo

[spark shard]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-conspiracy-time-tin-foil-hat-gif-20017112

[solar stone]

APS feels horrible
anyone agrees?

[polar prairie]

Gutted

[lime fable]

Yo is this supposed to be a thing, im running sniper and have made my sniper the same speed as my hipfire and other ads weapons but noticed that if i aim at a target quickly and ads my speed drops as it zooms in then speeds up again, is this intended, it’s definitely to do with the transition just wondering if its a bug or feature on controller btw

[hushed prairie]

make it so u cant spawn kill atleast have a bit of invincibility

[worldly scaffold]

I'm fine, I'm pretty good, that isn't the problem. You just don't get it do you? It's like talking to a wall, you don't read what I write clearly. Anyway, I'm done with you, seems like you are just trolling me here. REMOVE the snipers from PS, new day, every match is littered with them, and nerf throwing knives. Another patch, nothing done by the devs, they do not care, prob staring at Terminal attack thinking this will be the next CS... Season 3 better be damn good, but with recent track record, not so sure if it will be.

[regal ferry]

buff shotguns spread at close range

[vernal swallow]

man throwing knifes aren’t that op, maybe a little damage reduction but like every other gun kills just as fast if not faster

@hybrid agate exactly, as a heavy main I gotta say this change was needed

[hybrid agate]

throwing knives are decent now

they're balanced now tbh and it should stay like that

[willow leaf]

Honestly a bunch of explosions and destruction everywhere sounds fun to me lol, the destruction is the best part of the game. But I understand your critique. I just don’t think it should be a attack weapon where shooting people is the main use. It should mainly be a destruction tool with low damage. To not make c4 pointless I think they should give it two charges again and perhaps it should have a bigger destruction area and it could do more damage since it doesn’t have extreme range. But above all the rpg needs a damage reduction so I would not be mad if the devs did your idea.

[tough anchor]

I want people who leave ranked games publicly executed

[merry prism]

There's one change to the finals I've wanted since launch so I'm going to put it here.

So when it comes to the show being a game show, I think that's one of the strongest suits of this games presentations, but one of the biggest part of any game show are it's teams, and I don't feel the teams get the same love in the finals.

I think all of the teams are very unique, but I think a cool optional setting you could choose could let each team have their own unique color instead of randomly getting selected to yellow, pink, ect.

For instance, with this setting turned on, the tough shells could be green, the vogues could be purple, the overdogs could be grown, and ect.

This setting would also be able to change the color of your own team, so if you were on the tough shells, you'd be green instead of blue.

I think it'd be very important to make sure this setting is optional, as players who want to keep the visual clarity of the colors right now should be allowed to have that option.

[peak pine]

Make the glitch grenade universal for all players/characters not just lights.

[wet herald]

Right. It's not like the m11 and xp54 don't already have crazy TTKs too. Not only that but way more range especially with the xp54. I'd they are pretty in line with Lights other weapons

[high wing]

better servers please

[clear trout]

🤭🤭

[paper stream]

Lol. I'm plat2. Just played against 2 diamond teams - they went to the second round. One diamond team had 40 kills, second 20. MY team and the other plat team had 12 in total. Ranked matchmaking is greatest Embarks invention, truly amazing!

[strong sparrow]

light needs to be anything but a joke in ranked it takes 10x the effort to play light than hvy hvy med

[worldly scaffold]

Thing with Lights, is, they are impossible to balance for Ranked and Casual play, in terms of just buffing weapons and such. People playing ranked tell they need buffs, yet it isn't rare sight to see Lights go near, or over 30 kills in a casual match. The thing is, Light is fine, people just suck with it. IF it gets overtuned (it needs to keep high skill ceiling), that people with no skill can wreck shit, it will kill casual play. Already, I played three PS matches today (all I could stomach), there was more Lights in them, than other classes. Light is fine, people just suck with it, it didn't need "its ok now for ranked" buff, since you can't balance it for both, and casual play is where the devs focus should be. Devs need to think other way to balance them so that they are appealing pick for Ranked, the portals wasn't it. EDIT: Also fix your player not being at the middle with start/end cinematics, I hope that was un-intentional, since you didn't revert that change with latest patch...

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[bright gull]

I would love it you guys could use FSR 3 in the future for console

[untold flint]

https://tenor.com/view/no-role-perms-made-by-operaterzol-gif-25358107

[young smelt]

Please make it so that you're more likely to be placed on a team with people who use comms if you use comms in ranked.

[pseudo breach]

Day 66 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

Please fix the poor hit registration 🥲

[polar prairie]

Fax one of my only complaints is ill be down the block and somehow the bullets are still hitting me

[crystal umbra]

I'm tired of SYSHorizon

[polar gale]

im silver 1. won a game. didnt rank up. uninstalling( maybe)

[clear trout]

this is not how it works 😢

[green vigil]

Lights are becoming a joke now. Nerf them mf throwing knifes

[quick coyote]

need a 5v5 that isnt dominated by snipers

[coral axle]

DAY 12 OF ASKING FOR FSR 3.0 AND FRAME GENERATION!

[lavish shard]

you're totally right bro it's nice to see players who understand the difference between ranked and quikplay the only solution is to create a ranked pro mode with their own balancing rule and leave the quikplay fun like now even if the light is much too present

[quick coyote]

Is The Finals finally fixed for min spec systems?

[pale harness]

I think they just stealth nerfed ranked gains in this update. For context I'm rank 16 and i usually go up 1 spot per 2 wins, today I have won 15 games in a row and not moved wtf.

[potent solar]

I think balancing everything based on new / unskilled players is not the play. The reason they complain is because they're not evenly matched and teams don't work together in casual play as you have a constant cycle of individual players coming and going during a match. If you look in evenly matched play (ranked) it becomes apparent which weapons are the strongest when skill levels are even and teams are working together.

Theres got to be a better solution that makes it easier for new players but doesnt punish those that have put the time in to get better. If ranked didn't exist I would have quit long ago because it got to the point were casuals were too easy... grinders get bored and move on so the competition never levels.

Honestly its easier for me to drop 20-30 as a M or H than as a sniper. People just get mad when they get sniped. If I wanted to take a break to chill from ranked and play pubs and everything I took the time to master was bubble wrapped I'd get in the habbit of closing the game and invest in something else.

[little pawn]

For god sake fix far away spawns it's so annoying, it was so good and fairly close to the objective in S1 But now every time we respawn 100+ far away and sometimes 200+.. why u keep changing stuff no one asked for like the spawns and health bar

[willow leaf]

This game needs more normal game modes. Cft, team death match, domination, ect. It also needs custom games.

[vocal mason]

This. It did not need a buff in the first place. It should be reverted back to before the latest update.

[daring fossil]

please make the Holtow Fine Print skins allow other weapon animations. I understand maybe locking the inspect animation, but at least let us use different deploy and reload animations with it. I bought the AK animation pack for a reason

[bitter chasm]

Hi we finally decided to make the right decisions to keep the game alive and in a good state, here are the patch notes:

• Removed SNIPERS from the game.
  Dev Note: We felt like snipers weren't supposed to be in this game from the start, it's a more action oriented close combat scenarios type of game, players had to constantly hide into unknown destructible places to hide while we had structures made for verticality and ambushes that were being used as a place to see everyone that was on the map by players playing the SNIPER, in an open space game with huge distances and a more varied combat it made sense but in this case it just made things worse.

• Removed all of the MELEE WEAPONS except for HEAVY
  Dev Note: A huge swept to the arsenal but for good reasons, a bunch of weapons were already the worst choice based on the alternatives present for the different classes that were more useful for a more coop type of gameplay without the need of being in a team. The LIGHT class was unbalanced in offensive and defensive capabilities with these weapons because of it's fragility and general velocity, the medium on the other hand was not working well with how the class was designed and it was picked far less compared to other options (also quick note we couldn't really figure out a way to make the shield hitbox scan and hitbox registration really work).
  On the other hand for the HEAVY class we thought that thanks to it's general clunkiness and need for a far more tactical approach to close distances the HAMMER was there to stay and differentiate the class more from the others.
  We will open refunds also for these skins.

• Rebalanced and abilities and gadgets to make more sense with the classes
  Dev Note: Removed Invisibility because we couldn't figure out a way to make it work with the last update and we just broke it completely. Removed the tracking dart and gave LIGHTS something that made more sense with the class.

• Finished text space, see you at the next one

[green vigil]

Those are the dumbest suggestions I ever read on here. Congrats 👏

[finite briar]

smh spreading misinformation.

[ember locust]

lmao

[swift laurel]

-feedback

[spiral light]

Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

[stark notch]

if people see lights not being a problem and if throwing knives are the same or 'worse' as the other light weapons then. then how did it become magically a problem? it can't be both lol

[rain gust]

This has been a very disappointing season. What I thought would be promising for THE FINALS, had a good start with notable features, but the middle and end just failed with its bad updates. That's not excusing the beginning. I know Embark can do this, and that's why I'm still not gonna hard quit the game, but before Embark proceeds, I feel like they need to keep hold of some key things that is holding the game back so much.

BALANCING.

Balancing has been THE FINALS' number one issue since Closed Beta. A lot of us veteran players gave THE FINALS a chance given that it had three betas to fix how the three classes were balanced, and even to this day, things still feel the same at its core. Even with good weapon, specialization and gadget nerfs, everything just falls flat.

LIGHT IS UNDERPOWERED.

The one class that just can't catch a break. Never caught a break. A butchered class that is only good for having fun in casual play. It was bad in Season 1, and with the introduction of gateway in Season 2, it managed to work in a comp. It's a class that has been complained about with its overpowered things such as throwing knives, cloak and vanish, stun gun, glitch grenades (specifically the 10 sec > 5 sec), glitch barrels being introduced, and sure, they needed its nerfs as it's annoying and unfun to play against especially on a casual note, but you must be prepared to give its compensations that would make still make it competitively viable. I follow a content creator who just softquitted the game because of disappointing changes such as 2.6. It was always the class that just sucked compared to medium and heavy. Sure, you can make it work, but going to comps like triple medium, medium medium heavy, or medium heavy heavy was often the safer and overall better bet for running ranked play.

MEDIUM IS STALE.

How stale is this class going to get? Model is in a good place, riot shield is in a somewhat okay place with melee now being able to hit multiple targets at once, AK and FCAR are inferior to their heavy counterparts, and in the likes of what is ran in a competitive scene, double mobility has become the only meta option. There lacks variety in the likes of medium. Turrets and Dematerializer need to be up to par with the likes of the Healing Beam. You nerfed APS, which was very much viable in ranked, and was only nerfed because it was a terror in Power Shift, making people safe from projectiles while moving the platform. APS has no place in ranked, as it will not protect you for an extended period of time during the duration of a sweaty and daunting cashout defense. It wasn't even that good in the eyes of the highest level players. Explosive and gas mines nowadays are a niche pick, only working in certain scenarios. Medium also lacks a good amount of firepower compared to the other two classes, relying too much on support for its team.

HEAVY IS OVERPOWERED.

This is something that needs no introduction. It's been overpowered since Alpha. You've nerfed C4s, its mesh shield, SA1216, RPG, barricade (in its own way), and yet, it still wasn't enough. Heavy didn't feel nerfed, and that's the biggest issue. It's still strong, and the reason being is because light and medium are just not strong enough compared to heavy. Overall, light lacks proper survivability, and medium is not capable DPS-wise to compete with the likes of heavy. Heavy is a must-run in the likes of ranked, and double heavy medium is the overall best choice for top teams.

See you guys in 30 minutes.

[sharp briar]

Please please please please pretty please embark can you bring back the season 1 soundtrack to the game, along with all the new songs. I feel like they are such a vibe and the season 1 soundtrack is really what made me fall in love with the game. I love what you do embark, and keep up the good work because we love it

[upper citrus]

The funny part is that they kill at the same speed as the smgs. The real issue with them is that there’s very poor visual feedback for when they’re being thrown at you. So it feels frustrating to take damage. Which is probably why so many people think they’re op. They’re not op at all

@lavish shard you are playing unranked cashout bro of course there’s gonna be a lot of lights. The class is terrible in ranked

[lavish shard]

P = light
Light underpowerd 🤣🤣 go play in bank it or powershift
@upper citrus your right bro so rework the ranked
Buff light = kill bank it and powershift

[spice stag]

no thats peavy

[stuck sentinel]

🤡

[quaint forge]

I meant like buff it, it’s kinda hard to land accurate shots sometimes to do the full damage

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[clear hemlock]

🤡 you got clowned because you didn't understand what he was saying and you blindly think he's disagreeing with you 🤡

[real saffron]

This update seems to have issues with staying in the party after a match finishes, have to close game and reopen to receive / send invites

[junior sigil]

lmao, i played ranked tournament with my full team, after we finished we got back to lobby and i (squad leader) started queuing next ranked tournament. and here is a fun part, i got queued with 2 random teammates while my friends were still in lobby and still in my group. tbh i made it to d4 that game so its not like im tooo mad but still)

[daring fossil]

this should never happen. I should not be back-filled into a game with less than a minute left.

[rain gust]

CONTINUATION FROM BEFORE.

TOO MANY NERFS, NOT ENOUGH BUFFS.

You've nerfed so many things like APS, the majority of the light loadout, the revolver, and not enough buffs from other weapons and gadgets, ultimately making the game stale. It's not fun to run just one or two things on a higher level. I've been waiting to see buffs from truly underpowered weapons such as Data Reshaper, FAMAS, SH1900 (while straying away from its stupidly overpowered roots), 93R, Sonar Grenade, Smoke Grenade, Demateralizer, Guardian Turret, Grapppling Hook, Thermal Vision, MGL-32, Pyro Mine, Motion Sensor. I could go on with the list. I want to see the roster of weapons, specializations and gadgets feel more lively, not in a stale place.

HORRIBLE BUFFS THAT DESTROY THE META.

Throwing Knives have unlimited ammo. They overthrow the sword and the M11, also closed ranged weapons, in terms of sheer damage and TTK. It has the best damage in one burst with its right click. Who thought this was a good idea to buff it to extremities?

AMOUNT OF CHEESE.

Charge N' Slam and RPG are known to be cheesy for requiring minimal effort and taking away a chunk of an enemy's health in the likes of a very high-TTK game. When a game has a high TTK and typically takes a good degree of skill such as good tracking to eliminate a player, cheese shouldn't be allowed in the mix.

RANKED SYSTEM IS HORRIBLE.

We don't want arrows to go up or down when we do well or bad in a tournament. That's not what we're here for. We want to see a percentage of our progress to the next rank. At the highest level, in top 500, I know some players who have played for HOURS (one content creator I know went from #39 to #399 of consistent gameplay in the span of 8 hours and softquitted because of it), and got garbage. Last season, it was just a matter of how much time you put into the game. The reasons why I don't grind leaderboards. The only reason I got top 200 from Closed Beta 2 is because from the sheer amount of time I helped friends get to Diamond.

CATERING TO BOTH CASUAL AND COMPETITIVE PLAYERS.

The FINALS Community is too divided. Unranked Tournament was a true gateway for casual players to feel like they're playing in a tournament, sweating to a certain extent so they may make it to ranked one day. I ENJOYED solo-queueing unranked and it was good fun. We've seen a separation between casual and competitive players, but the removal of unranked was not the reason why. You need to find that balance and cater to both the casual and competitive players at the same time.

CUSTOM GAMES ARE BLAND.

It just lacks a certain amount of customization. Not being able to pick the weather, modifier or time of day, not banning random events or certain random events, no tournaments, I haven't checked this part too recently but I do hope you're able to pick and assign your teammates.

NEW WEAPONS, GADGETS AND SPECIALIZATIONS ARE UNINTERESTING.

I know this should be in the balancing part of my feedback, but holy, the 93R is so bad that I had to give it its own category. It's inferior in every way to its light counterparts. Fire rate, magazine size, range, TTK, etc etc etc etc. FAMAS is the worst of the three medium ARs, and KS-23 has no place in competing against SA1216. Data Reshaper even with its buff is a joke. I even memed with it saying "HEY LOOK BRO! MAGIC!" with a friend of mine who plays the game for fun. Anti-Gravity cube doesn't deserve to be niche. Dematerializer while an adequate idea lacks its proper buffs. The best of them all is Gateway, that's the exception here.

So yeah, got the rest of the feedback off my chest. I want to see you guys step it up a notch or two in Season 3, and address the problems at hand. People I know who swore they were dedicated to the game ended up softquitting potentially at least until Season 3, and I too, am taking a break. I have no reason to play THE FINALS right now, and I've been playing since Closed Beta 1.

[vagrant lake]

whoever approved the buff for the throwing knive has absolutely lost touch with reality

[hollow breach]

cant wait for season 3 heavy nerfs 😋

[icy sedge]

Embark can you pretty please add a female voice option for the "Ariad" Legendary Face when you have a female body type equipped? Just as an option would be appreciated!

[stark notch]

If I see all the lights in my lobbies being useless with KDs like 1-7, 2-10, etc. and now theyre top fragging lobbies then something is up. it's not like they grew a few brain cells and improved their skill overnight.

my opinion on the TKs is based on my own experience playing WITH them. I feel like they're easy to hit and I would drop 30 bombs in a single round, more than I would using the m11 or xp54. and the only other weapon that can kill me is another TK user.

sure they have a range limit, but at mid range there is no severe damage drop off unlike the smgs. plus you can just put yourself in a close position with all the different mobility options to shred up-close. anyone playing long range on purpose unless its a sniper or lh1 doesn't know what they're doing.

'the light punishes getting out of position'
yeah and the TKs punish people that are already damaged with its burst damage. I would end up in team fights where the whole lobby is at one cashout and I dash everywhere and spam INFINITE knives and clean up the whole lobby as they all fight.

don't forget that the M1 overshadows the M2. it takes the same amount of hits to kill lmfao

[ember locust]

Don't know what lobbies you're playing, mine feel the same, some lights do well, some don't and still lose most of the time.

[stoic marten]

It really isn't hard to figure this out, if you can't get 2 games in a row with a 15+k/d, you will never experience the max hidden mmr lobbies where imbalances are noticeably bad in an environment where everyone in the lobby wants to continue getting 15+k/d like it's ranked when it ain't.

[high wing]

upgrade the servers, dying behind walls is so annoying

[quick coyote]

[rose verge]

[haughty relic]

[lavish shard]

🤡
we're going to do like you, I'm going to delete what I don't like
Remove Light tk and sword

[wintry trout]

[glass sequoia]

I wanted to emote react to what you've said but you've basically hit every sore spot I have with this game aside from personal gripes like "I wish cl40 wasn't so bad in ranked"

[rain gust]

One more thing.

LACK OF TESTING FROM THE DEVELOPERS.

I've been noticing this a lot, and me and at least two other personal communities for THE FINALS have mutually agreed with this, too. The lack of testing is apparent from bad changes and updates especially to the balancing of the game. I want Embark to put more time into testing their game in order to accurate address issues in the game more.

[tidal lily]

Either matchmaking or the ELO system is bad and based on faulty assumptions. Anywhere in plat, it's almost guaranteed to have a triple-stacked Diamond team on the ranked roster. Either the matchmaking system is bad for putting them in a lobby that's a double digit percentage of the playerbase worse than them, or the ELO system is bad for rewarding them winning.

[bronze widget]

I can't stay in a party.

[edgy urchin]

buffing kunai is the worst update ive seen

love dying to some kid teleporting around and spam clicking, either add more of a cooldown between the kunai regenerating or reduce the damage for the love of god

[mint stream]

Some small QoL I would like:

The ability to visualize stats per mode, would be REALLY fun.

I would like to know my K/D and W/L, per example, in Terminal Attack, without the K/D from other modes affecting it, just for fun.

Speaking of stats, would like to see more average stats, and the trend on the last 10/50 games?

Ability to see the stats of the LAST GAME, from the home screen/lobby.

Improved visibility for teammate’s nametags, and the ability to customize them? (Text color, shadow color, size).

A different color for our group nametags to separate them from other teammates.

Looking forward to upcoming updates to private matches too!

Thanks for the hard work devs!

[keen skiff]

fax. also off topic i was gonna say add a way to 1v1 in private matches, it's ridiculous that you can play with a 2 player lobby but can't be assigned to two different teams

[manic portal]

Just to give some constructive criticism related to throwing daggers, idk if I'd say they're OP but it is a bit crazy they are effectively infinite. A light can just prioritize dodging and once you have to reload you're basically screwed. It also makes them punishing shields zero cost for them (shooting shields and forcing people to reload is one of the primary benefits of shield). I think it should at some point run out and require them to recharge or maybe do less damage to shields

[little locust]

tk buff was a good start for lights. xp is in a good place. m11 is viable. lh1 is a high skill floor option that's great. now that light is more viable in casual play, it immediately becomes less so due to player choices, though. every game I play theres a medium with grenade launcher on every team. that being able to one shot a light with absolutely no way to outplay it is a terrible feeling when there's one around every corner. light has SO much potential to be a good class, but when the entire lobby is making their entire loadout choice to nullify you? I'm not having fun anymore. Light needs to have some answer to all other classes having a way to instantly delete them. we need at least a split second to react once an engagement starts. options here would be to give even the slightest health buff, reduce grenade launcher and rpg damage. etc

[plain lotus]

Bingo

[stark notch]

no where I said light is overpowered. so I am not proving your imaginary point. how can you say they finally have a cannon but then say its not good compared to the m11? another argument that counters each other. you also fail to acknowledge the m11 has recoil, a limited magazine size, and damage drop off. burst damage in these type of games is overall better anyway.

I do play rank. not to gloat because I feel like ranks dont matter, but I reach diamond in each season and manage to be top 30-40 in the betas. I play competitively in games; mostly in TF2 and other arena based games, so I'm not a shitter just complaining or anything.

so then the argument would be 'should the game be balanced for casuals or rank?' seeing how rank is dead and the majority of players are casual-based. it's the best interest for the devs to balance the game based on the casual experience for player retention and $. Dead by Daylight is a perfect example of this phenomenon.

[worn sigil]

APS deserved the nerf. Too annoying. Plus easiest way to win PowerShift outside of ranked.

Ranked bars let you know when you're being promoted by the badge being shiny and when you're about to be demoted when your badge is glitching out. It's all about winning streak this season not about how much you play. Getting to the final consecutively gets you promoted, pretty simple.

They did buff the throwing knives too much, agreed, so they just need to meet halfway between this buff and the OG knives to fix it.

Unranked tourney required no skill because everyone just quit half the time or I'd spawn in with no teammates, overall not good enough. It was too easy to win as well.

[graceful dragon]

PRIDE MONTH SKINS.

[rain gust]

APS was balanced with the exception of its viability of Power Shift. It lacked radius, but more than maked up for it by deflecting any projectile from all three classes. It was good against double heavy teams especially in the final round of ranked. It was a perfect tool to hold down cashouts for long periods of time in the likes of a ranked setting, where everyone is at least a decent player. People can just shoot down the APS turrets to destroy it, not butcher it with just a three projectile limit.

In a ranked setting where projectile spam is consistent and accurate, APS is good for the meta and a notable alternative from double mobility for medium, but its small radius makes it fall behind the likes of double mobility overall. Top players have said that it isn't even good because of said radius limit.

If healing beam and revives were banned from the likes of Terminal Attack, then APS should be banned in Power Shift.

Disagree with your take on unranked tourney. I had none of the problems you mentioned about it.

[violet wing]

Is there any rank decay, and if yes, after how long ? Sorry to ask, probably been already said but I can't find the answer anywhere

[barren cipher]

Man I'm really scared to put any cash into this game because of bans. Makes it less fun to play. Any words of advise?

[little locust]

@violet wing @barren cipher if you're asking questions this isn't the place for it. slowmode makes it a waste of a message to respond. but no rank decay. and what do you mean bans? i've never known anyone banned. you cheating? that's the only thing that would make me worry about getting banned

[olive vector]

NERF THE SWORD!!!

[true hazel]

No but higher rankes are leaderboard based you if you dont climb, people will climb past and push you down, only for high plat and diamond im pretty sure

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Make it so you have to turn off cloak before you can do anything else like shooting. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[humble wave]

***season 3 wishlist ***
1.nerf heavy (rpg, flamethrower, charge nd slam)
2.buff light
3.fix matchmaking
nothing to hard

[pine wave]

How to fix bugged healing beam?
I hold left click near team mate with low health I hear the beam noise but nothing happens

[midnight aurora]

the goo gun not having a white skin truly breaks my enjoyment of the game

@vernal swallow but i dont want tinfoil or diamonds

[vernal swallow]

idk why, maybe cuz of the skins in the s1 battlepass since they were pretty white looking (tinfoil and diamonds skin)

[real crow]

THANK YOU FOR MAKING ANOTHER HOLTOW FINE PRINT SKIN THANK YOUUUUU

[tawny canyon]

Will we be getting the pride pants that were in the beta this month? https://i.imgur.com/DWvaea4.png

[high wing]

can game stop giving ADVANTAGE to spawning enemies

[rocky verge]

Please remove the invis activation time penalty. It already plays a noise, and there is really no harm in spamming it…
Invis has become useless as the whole invis experience has been put into an utility item ;-;
Pls buff it somehow, like maybe by making it completely silent, or actually difficult to see

@willow leaf really? Most of the lights I see use the dash and the vanish bomb, not strictly the invis ability.
Also, more people using it doesn’t change the fact that instead of being hard to detect, it just makes you detected in a different way

[upper citrus]

No you don’t get it, the stealth special needs to actively give away your location

[willow leaf]

90% of the lights I see play invis so it must not be that useless.

@rocky verge Yes really and it seems others do too. Also I didn’t say it changed that fact of yours but that it proves that it isn’t useless as you said. I personally think it should have a full rework though.

[charred wolf]

its because they nerfed the grapple hook hard. So the meta for the light is invis

[worn sigil]

Fair enough

Plus I guess you can just demat the aps in ranked or something. But yeah I agree it should be removed from APS. I usually snipe it in Powershift but teammates never shoot it for some reason.

I play on PS5 so maybe that's why more people quit in unranked tourneys. But I had the problems quite a lot in the mode.

[eternal wigeon]

mate, the rpg's already been nerfed twice, and the self damage is still the old one

[quick coyote]

Because grapple sucks and dash is difficult to master

[haughty turtle]

how is it difficult to master?

[lavish shard]

Buff light in ranked
Light in bank it powershift is good dont buff it

[mortal ridge]

You guys definitely overtuned the throwing knives, you barely have to lead your shots anymore and the fire rate is insane. If you could tune them back down a little bit that would be awesome

[quaint forge]

Yuh it’s true lmao, I’m just waiting for the new Honda to come out to the game

[full bronze]

I dont really like to complain but man the DPS on the throwing knives is too much in my opinion

[rocky verge]

Yeah, I’m with the full rework, I think that the way it is now, it’s trying to be two different things, but half-assing both
Honestly maybe they should just scrap invis and replace it with an ability that lets you swap places with another player
Wait that’s lowkey a good idea (in my humble semi stupid opinion)

[steady delta]

I was browsing the store and thought it would be great to add a preview of how the weapons shoot and reload with the skins being inspected. Additionally, implementing a zoom feature on the weapon/skins while inspecting them would be useful to better appreciate the details, as currently, this isn't possible for some items.

[vernal swallow]

true I’m waiting for the model change skin

[worldly thunder]

very minor complaint, but can you let us customize the animations for the new ospuz skin(I want to use the animation pack)?

[gritty umbra]

i hope next season theres more stuff to do w sponsors. and im hoping for a bow and deagles

[summer dagger]

This. I’m sure the devs are already aware but there is a video by OllieJT about a month ago that I think is the best concept I’ve seen yet that works in the games sponsors for a better grind and cooler theme

[honest fractal]

customize ping wheel plssssss

[willow leaf]

Yeah its definitely trying to be two things at once. It wants to be a stealthy ability but at the same time it allows people to run around while invisible and it makes sound.

[keen siren]

I heard a teammate say that this game is too much based on luck to be fully competitive and as I thought about that I somewhat agree. I think ever since we got rid of recon (which is good) it's luck-based as to whether you get a team pushing your cashout or not since it's their choice. You only fight a portion of the 3 other teams for an entire round unless the timing is off and people double or everyone forgets about one vault. It might be a good idea to show a numbered indicator as to how many teams are within a certain vicinity of a vault or a cashout lessen that a bit. Thoughts? I had one round (very rare) where our team had 0 combat score and we still got 2 full cashouts.

[crystal umbra]

6 DAYS UNTIL THE NEW SEASON ‼️‼️

HUZZAH ‼️‼️🥳

[dusty halo]

Reduce the damage for the initial phase of charge n slam and have the damage build up the further you run.

[humble wave]

needs more nerfs

[solid lantern]

Grapple is amazing lol, and dash is real good especially for movement lights, invisible is so easy to spot unless someone is standing still, which I never see.

[eternal wigeon]

Nah, even with a 50 dmg rpg you'd still whine. The rpg does the same DMG as a grenade (with a direct hit), deal with it

[ember crystal]

Devs, please fix your lobby code. 50% of the games I have with my friends results in a lobby bug where it looks like a player is still in the lobby but the game forces them out of it. Mostly while playing Terminal Attack. It's really frustrating

[stark venture]

Netcode go brrr, it bad, pls fix

[willow leaf]

The reason why luck plays such a big part is because of the spawning in this game. The spawning is atrocious to say the least lol.

[remote citrus]

I'm hoping for contracts to be restricted to a certain game mode or removed altogether. Playing anything non-ranked is just players avoiding objectives because there are no stakes and everyone is just farming sniper contracts. Playing powershift where not a single player goes for hte objective for minutes kills any excitement for the gamemode.

[jade inlet]

strange glitch where i was still able to hear my random teammates even though i was in my own party

[pastel pond]

the last update made the game unplayable 60fps on low. I was getting like 200fps before on low

[potent solar]

Maybe for powershift you could incentivize being on the platform by making players have to spend a certain amount of time on it (idk like 5 secs) every x amount of mins / secs or take ticking health dmg. kind of like coming up to breathe in when swimming in games. the longer you charged on the platform the longer you could stay off. kills could restore a portion of this too

[rotund torrent]

please add chains to the style tab, a gold chain would look so sick on my light

[normal sapphire]

still asking for mnk support on console

[finite briar]

it's a good thing there's currently someone on YouTube that buys all the skins just to show them off in game

[hard fern]

HEY DO YALL REWARD FOR PLAYING THE BETA ????? cus i played the beta fer very long and dont think i got anything

[finite wedge]

Let me Name My Different Contestants Please!! Just a fun Option!

[charred wolf]

Yeah there were beta skins for guns

[supple crow]

You should tell people how to ping ennemies during loading screen. In capitals. Bold capitals.

[main granite]

What’s considered a markman riffle? Is it only lights or does the medium famas count?

[rotund torrent]

ik the medium revolver counts as a pistol i never tried the famas and my contract already complete

[clear hemlock]

Only lh1 and sniper rifle

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Rework cloak into a stealth only ability. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[cold pilot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yltrz3ND8Zc

[remote steppe]

emote cancel is actually the worst thing in the game right now. really just a lame thing to do. it's a GLITCH i.e not something you're supposed to be able to do

[late mulch]

Suggestion: I would love to see a reduced/removed team wipe delay for teams lacking players - 2 person teams, etc. They shouldn't have the same penalty when they are already suffering from having a player rage quit on them

[pseudo latch]

False advertising. Heavy hasn’t seen a buff in months

[cloud furnace]

dash>cloak

[keen siren]

That too! 100%

[supple crow]

We kept our Ranked rewards

[hard fern]

LIKE WHAT SKINS DID I GET!!

[sharp arrow]

TWO SUGGESTIONS
#1: Enemy suicides should count as kills for the person who dealt the most damage. For instance, if you get a heavy low and he rpgs himself or falls off THe map, you should get credit for the kill.

#2: Assists should still be awarded even after death. Currently, if your teammate kills someone you damaged before you died, you do not get an assist if you are dead.

[solemn burrow]

Im getting a bug where I can't invite people. Some guy in this discord said to do some stuff in %appdata% but Ion really feel like doing that Please fix this. (When i invite people it doesn't send the invite and the + button just goes grayed out)

[fossil wedge]

https://i.imgur.com/pjy1bTT.png

This is a horrible way to display damage lol, what a useful thing to put in a bar

[stray valley]

crocs and socks next season

[past spoke]

My only issue with the game currently is that theres no rank protection when having teammates quit on you during the matches

[wispy ivy]

we should get a gadget that ties two or more props together (for example a chair to another chair, an explosive cannister to a fire barrel), might be useless but we have thermal vision and similarly niche items so why not

[charred wolf]

Like ospuze style m11, akm, m60, and fire gernade skins

[hard fern]

I got the AK one but idk about others how spesificly did u get em?

[polar prairie]

Real i be hitting mfs for 5 damage somehow

[midnight bison]

why p1 and d2 in the same lobby?
who's the clueless person that design this crap

[leaden wagon]

The throwing knives are way too overpowered in ranked

[foggy ginkgo]

Please limit the amount of some specializations that can be stacked on a team.

[nova osprey]

Lights don’t need faster revive, they have cloak and throwing knives

[trail nymph]

DRIVERS AND EVERYTHING IS UPDATED AND THE GAME STILL CRASHES ON START UP, HOLY FUCK

[fossil wedge]

Also, entire party is still getting the bugs where you can't shoot

[quick coyote]

my favorite part of the game is when you put me in a quick match that about to end

[leaden wagon]

Win 3 ranked rounds? Three notches up. Perform well on the 1st round but lose? Negative two notches. God I hate this system, or at least the way it's displayed.

S1 ranked tracker just made sense, idk why we lost it.

[cloud jungle]

Goo and destruction are both now broken. Goo doesn't stop player who are moving and sometimes doesn't even stop players who are standing still from starting to move.

Destruction is especially noticeable with Sledgehammer, with stuff like this happening:

[daring fossil]

servers have felt like absolute garbage for months, the entire server just freezes for a second almost every game, then I play ranked because im bored and it's by and large the worst experience in the game. ping is presumably so high I can't hit anything, getting constant no reg, on top of being matched with unranked as gold 4, I understand this is because of the tiny ass player base but holy shit. It's not even worth it to try to play ranked for the skins.

[crystal cave]

Please do something for heavy grenade launcher it’s honestly terrible and overall useless

[rotund torrent]

bruh i was just clearing servers with it

[rain compass]

Can we nerf the dagger? Dying in one hit repeatedly is really irritating.

Every lobby I am in with a dagger, the player top frags the whole lobby. I play casually. Dying in one hit because a light is dashing around you is not a fun experience.

This was not an issue before the buff to Melee weapons. You can say it is one of the worst weapons in the game, you can say I am bad. But if the player with the dagger is getting 20+ kills, and the rest of the lobby is getting maybe 10? That doesn't seem balanced to me.

[hardy bridge]

just dont get backstabbed or turn around every once in a while

[rugged temple]

The dagger has easy counterplay. Use your ears and keep at range. It's one of the worst weapons in the game.

[exotic rapids]

Please fixed the ranking system. I have no clue what my progression is and the up and down arrows are the most confusing things ever.

[river hill]

Thats a common experience that I have

[odd cedar]

make it so that when i have max vr's and i can't buy anything else there is no more glowing ring around it 💪

just filled up on vrs so i bought the last thing i needed so that i dont waste points and the ring is still there

[rancid cloud]

If the objective of the throwing knife buff was to make hitting moving targets easier, why did it need a damage buff?

[daring fossil]

I just queued for 25 minutes just to have a guy pick light and then leave 1 minute into the match

[midnight bison]

fix your goddamn matchmaking, why this trash system keeps putting gold and plats against diamond 1 and 2

[delicate dirge]

Suggestions & Feedback

Midgame events. They're kinda boring right now.

Example

wooo space aliens blowing shit up on the other side of the map that will never affect you

instead give us some actual bs

survive the disasters esque events like

some huge gunship/helicopter that indiscriminately razers the map randomly targeting anyone

floor is lava event

zombie invasion npcs that only melee attack anyone.

hole in the wall/resident evil movie lasers sliding from one side of the map to the other you have to dodge

huge monster/mecha npc that spawns in and runs around destroying shit attacking anyone he sees

sideways/upside down gravity event

randomized loadouts event

timer is paused and all teams have to fight a huge boss in the arena and whoever does most damage/claims the drop first gets some crazy op item/gadget/weapon etc

the 2042 tornado (need more be said)

earthquake (all buildings start collapsing and screen is shaky as fuck so pvp is tough)

flashbangs fall from the sky randomly all over the map

wrecking balls from the sky

everyone is glitched for duration of event

[shy swan]

hope something sticks and is added

• see friends list characters
• add more exact and better mouse sensitivity settings fix overall feel thats been complained about
• add settings that disables auto mantle and limit it to double tapping jump button (accidental manteling is not fun!)
• smokes for heavy
• stim or something for healing for light
• sniper for heavy (barret 50 cal)
• CLEAR LORE (explain terminal attack by saying the contestants were recruted to protect the arena from cns. and cns are just modders who want to hack the game n steal source code.)
• taunting in menu with party members seeing it.
• make platform stop moveing instantly when contesting to make clutching at ending point more fun
• make f10 a official setting for all platforms for the fun of it
• make gas last longer and flame nades have 2 charges
• keep melee aoe damage effect
• buff glitch mine (last longer?)
• buff flashbang
• smaller ui option and fixed crosshair overlay option
• keep terminal attack but make it less attacker sided
• buff riot shield protection size
• bring back 2 c4 charges
• gadget that makes you completely silent
• make flashbangs blind hard scoped snipers across the map
• buff v9s cuz there are alot of fun skins for it but the gun sucks
• nerf defib to be less dominant
• allow class intro cinematic to be repayable
• give motion sensor higher range
• allow text chat and enemy voice chat in their team introduction

[tidal forge]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1009830578545246213/1248170551713988638 What are these lobbies? Or are these diamond players so bad in their actual elo that they got matched with gold players?

[exotic rapids]

for real. Enemy team = Medium medium heavy
My team = light, medium, medium, and teammate doesnt have defib

[runic surge]

and if you were any good at the game you'd still win with that teamcomp cause its not that difficult

[eager gyro]

i got bad teammates who didnt even play the game

[quick coyote]

[rough herald]

even first bullet advantage isn't enough to kill heavy (the tank out damage the dps bro)

[oblique kite]

Burf light health regen or nerf heavies regen

[crystal umbra]

I am sharing my experience with you all.

I turned off crossplay
I waited for 10 minutes to find a match. (I gave up)

I turned on crossplay
I found a match in less than 2 minutes.

I am on Xbox. Please fix.

[zinc bane]

the fun has been sucked out of this game with all these ridiculous balance patches. i'm taking a break. I don't understand what happened. the game was very promising at first; it felt like any strong strategy could be countered in one way or another (barring nukes) because all the classes had something that gave them value. something that made them 'op'. they all had fun things to use in their kit, but all the fun stuff got nerfed. you guys had something special on release, why did you have to change everything?

[exotic rapids]

Sure, but when you bring a light into diamond you 100% get smoked and my teammates usually arent the brightest

[swift crater]

Scotty: 10 Seconds Left!! (3 seconds latter) Game Over!!! 💀

[formal willow]

this honestly feels like skill issue, could try dashing circles around just pick fights wisely lights

[topaz acorn]

i whole heartedly believe heavy should have a glock that hits like a truck

actually related to this, can we get more silly guns and abilities? i mean come on, its a VR game show, they would totally give us non-realistic equipment because the technology allows for it. even some extra creativity with existing guns, like dual V9's with stats that are equivelent to what one V9 is now. vanishing bomb was a good start for sillier abilities and i wish theyd keep going with it

[nocturne fern]

no shit

[stray valley]

i think u just suck bro as an avid fcar ak and lewis user i can fry anyone from 20-40 metres no prob

[formal knot]

Can't Inspect the new store items ( H ), Works fine for older products.

[twin heart]

You literally jumped in front of a near full HP Heavy, not even attempting to dash or anything to make yourself harder to hit and you're suprised you died? A Medium with an AK of FCAR would prob kill you in this situation.

[bleak coral]

real 😭 😭

"bro this is so unbalanced, i made the worst possible choices and lost"

[stark notch]

you played that scenario like you're a rodeo clown running straight into the bull. shoulda hopped down from behind him. seems like he had bunch of headshots on you

tank counters dps, dps counters support :^)

[rough herald]

i have first bullet advantage, and i appear out of no, so i predict he will panic at least a lil, increasing his reaction time just enough to win a hit trade so i bet on it (i also aim for the head but miss, skill issue i know)
turn out high elo player is claimer then i thought

@formal willow@nocturne fern@twin heart@stark notch

@stoic marten you actually think im dumb enough to say that 50 meter shot count as first bullet addvantage??? lol

@twin heart you know what, fck it, i have skill issue, worst player in the world, shittiest aim ever seens, a rock have better game sense then me ok?
this argument will go on for ever

[nocturne fern]

it doesnt matter if you have first bullet advantage, YOU have a health disadvantage, play like it

[formal willow]

1st bullet advantage is nothing, 1v1 with heavy as a light always ends up in a loss if you dont rely on other abilities or movement. besides my dude didn't even give him a reason to aim just stood there right infront of him lol

[stoic marten]

What "first" bullet advantage?????????????????????? Your 🤡 🧠 engaged him way beyond the max damage range of the gun

Do you know what DAMAGE DROP OFF ⤵️ IS ⁉️

PLeAsE BuFf LigHt 🤡

@rough herald
Oh so the first bullet advantage includes the same frame you drop ur silly self directly infront of him with nowhere to dodge? You actually threw away any and all dodge abilities Light is given in favor of thinking "highest dps + lowest hp should always win no matter what", cry me a river. Get blasted

[violet elbow]

remove rank Icons in ranked again

early season 3 ranked will have the same toxic lobbies again of people avoiding/6v3ing the diamond teams in a lobby to knock them out, its straight up toxic and leads to extremely boring and uncompetitive matches

[true hazel]

APS needs atleast 4-5 charges as it got overnerfed currently.

DB shotgun need a reload speed buff to counter the damage dropoff and pellet spread

R93 needs to be buffed in every way possible

Throwing knife change needs to be reverted or the LC speed needs to be increased slightly and thr RC should instead be a little faster or be able to charge it up

[quick coyote]

be able to copy outfits onto other classes would be really good don't want to have to change my outfit 6 times or outfit templates

[twin heart]

And he had "i have 200HP more than you" advantage, that's the whole point of trading mobility for health, to be able to withstand a 1v1 just by having more health.

You did not appear out of "nowhere" and you didnt make him "panic". You started shooting at the guy from a pretty long distance and he was literally facing and going towards the building you were standing on, the guy prob saw you being there (unless he's stupid or plays at like 50FOV) and was well aware of where you are.

All you had to do in this situation was to just jump beside/behind him (and maybe not just stand there ADSing since M11 can be comfortably hipfired from that range) and you'd kill the guy just because he'd need additional time to turn around to face you.

[stray valley]

smartest light player

[terse slate]

Missing Features I would love to see:

• Solo Matchmaking. This is really important! Going solo with randoms against full premade is like running against a metal wall. "Go to LFG-Channel" is not a fitting answer for this. There are lot of people that hate to socialize and just want to play the game on a fair base.
• More Ingame-Events, Always seeing Low Gravity is getting boring
• A lot more Gadgets/Specializations <-- Or even better, make Variations possible for existing Specializations. Example would be Healing Gun can be varied to: chain-heal ( + 1 Link, Less Recovery Rate) for group play or dart-heal ( dartgun for heals which heal more or instant(?) ) or healing box ( throwable zone heal which can be destroyed or runs out of time ) => This would fuse Dome Shield and Spec Shield.
• More Customization for Faces/Hairs ( BEARDS!!! ), More Body Types like Fit/Normal/Fat Body ( i know this generates more work for the 3d artists... )
• Long-Term Goals that we can work towards too. Circuit was a nice idea but most of it is doable in 4 to 5 matches... People need things to do to be kept interested.

[tender minnow]

Heavy class should purely be tank, destruction and utility providing shields and useful util for teammates and using destruction to manipulate cashouts to give advantageous positions, rpg's purpose should also be for the same, right now heavy is everything and dominantly better than every other class, RPG is an extremely crutch util and forcefully finishes fights, HHM is the most boring meta ever and I dont understand why you're not doing anything about it. This game always presented itself as a rock paper scissor type system that intrigued most players at the start but Heavy is just overly dominating in every fight in every range, Light should counter heavy, heavy should counter medium and medium should counter light, this is how the balancing should be. Healing and Shields meta is extremely boring but it is the most powerful. Heavy should never be dps but they are with lewis and m60 being so powerful. Recoil nerfs only make the guns unfun to play but doesnt change its effectiveness in the hands of good players.

[proper barn]

Hey guys it's been 5 months can we please nerf heavy? Please? If I see a heavy with his RPG out it's literally insta death how is that fair? "Oh you shouldn't have gone near him if you're light" - 🤓 Yes, because the game TOTALLY relies on long range engagements....Maybe I should've just used my entire kit to remove the 2 domes on the cashout before I tried to kill the 2 heavies with instakill weapons, my bad

[nocturne fern]

is it just me or do you guys think that the events and map modifiers should stay to quick play and not be in ranked. Just to make every game be consistant and equal to eachother @hard badger make this guy a dev hes clearly smarter then all of them

[worn sigil]

Do Throwing Knives count as projectiles because each time I try to destroy an APS they are absorbed? 🤔

[quick coyote]

just launched a ranked game and can't play because connection timeout error and the must can't play for 10 min fix your fucking servers embark and I loose points bro ??????????????????????????????????????

[hard badger]

please nerf throwing knives. Everyone is using it because its clearly OP -_- It was already strong enough!

[rough herald]

can someone check the throwing knife ttk pls
(also they respawn behind me)

@cloud quail i think you forgot to set a bind for your respawn

[ember locust]

they headshot you so it's like 0.11

[stark notch]

it's technically somewhat 'inline' with other weapons but people fail to realize the burst potential, the HS damage, infinite ammo, easy to aim, no recoil, etc. the throwing knives have compared to these other weapons that has limited mag size, damage dropoff, and recoil.

looking at a blank page of statistical numbers dont cover the whole truth of weapons

[gusty wagon]

why heavy tank and dps class

[umbral spruce]

Nobody was using It before the buff for a reason.
I think light deserve more dmg, so they can be in meta

[worn sigil]

Please add a proper Ninja themed skin like this for Japanese season

[hard badger]

bruh no there weapons are the strongest of all. Light is ez to play because there weapons are strong as f... A good light player can melt a heavy player! The throwing knives were already strong enough now its overpowered imo. I play alot with throwing knives and it was already strong enough and ez to make kills, now its a no skill weapon because one hit does a lot of damage! Everyone is using it now because its overpowered, people always to tend to use the strongest weapons, says enough if they all are using it now because its freaking overpowered!

[quick coyote]

first game of the day embark don't let me play
second game spawning with only 1 mate
third game same as the second

IS THIS GAME MADE TO HAVE NO PLAYER ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[rough herald]

200 meter respawn

technically better then adding second to the respawn and making the spawn closer form a meta stand point thx to medium movement ability but it just unfun spawning in and needing to walk so far just to play the game

[tepid tapir]

should definitely make streaming more easily attainable in this server

[quaint forge]

Lmfao it just needs to be a little bit more accurate, like not buff dmg cuz I think it’s good, it’s just that It will balance it more

[stark notch]

light does not need more damage to become meta. they're trading their HP for insane mobility and damage

it's just the majority of light players are noobs that cant utilize the class to its fullest capability. it's the attractive zoomer 'I wanna run fast like call of duty and apex!' class which results in these bad players

sniper and spy in TF2 has this exact same issue. the classes are insanely good at picking off classes in the right hands, but you would see 4 spies and 6 snipers on your team that are completely bad and doing jack shit.

yes the throwing knives were bad and nobody used them. now they're overtuned. if the left click kills in the same amount of hits as the right click then something is wrong lol. the damage needs to be reverted and keep the speed buff.

the class requires a little more brain power and need to learn movement, positioning, and game sense, which these people dont have due to their brains rotting from tiktok.

[vernal swallow]

honestly, not even gonna add a suggestion other than let us choose the menu music theme, all I wanted to say is how hyped I am for s3 as a s1 and s2 player, I found this game at the end of its open beta from a tomographic video and have been hooked on it ever since, it’s the best game I’ve played in a long time and my only hope for s3, is that we can all reach the finals

[pulsar vine]

i like the game what i could ask for is if they could add a player if somebody was leaving in early stage of a ranked game. Since its so enoying when u try to grind and u get someone leaving ur game before the game even started

[polar prairie]

Damage is fine i get confused where my bullets are going tho

[patent sphinx]

Pure facts indeed, bro

[foggy orbit]

I think the damage should remain the same on the throwing knife, it's the fast fire rate which makes it a brainless spam weapon, I like weapons that are high risk high reward. Throwing Knife at the moment is low risk high reward for how missed shots are hardly punished, since you can spam to your hearts content, I think they should reduce the firerate, remove projectile spread, and give the secondary attack a buff that lets you hold the charge.

[winter blade]

I love this game, I loved Light since day 1. But the recent light buffs made it just annoying to play it. Everybody runs around with fucking OP throwing knives and its just so much less fun now tbh. Back then it was a balanced amount of mid heavy and light.. now its 85% light or at least it feels that way. and out of those 85% around 90% run around with knives just 1shotting everybody

[rancid cloud]

The UI elements while in a match are pushed out to the sides on 21:9 ultrawide monitors, but on the main menu they are constrained to 16:9. I would love it if I could use a toggle that positioned the match UI like healthbars and equipment in toward the center to fit the confines of a 16:9 layout as well so that I can choose to crop in on my 21:9 gameplay clips without having random bits being cut off on the sides of a 16:9 crop.

[umbral spruce]

Thats for sure, but in high tier rank nobody uses It, the heavy/medium meta Is so strong also because of their health, i think devs has to ways to solve this problem:

1. Increasing the dmg output of the light class, at least for having a Surprise kill for starting a fight.
2. Increasing the light class health pool and decreasing the heavy health, or at least giving some kind of damage (like Fire, gas and explosions) a proportional damage output, like 30% of the health of every class.

[smoky gust]

Im afraid that could make them too strong for casual though

Maybe let them move faster while aiming down sight to let them dodge bullets
That would effect the high skill end more, were it is needed

Otherwise the issue may just lie with rpg and healing/defib

Being (nearly) one-shot with 1 gadget makes them incredibly risky to run
And defib+healing means that any plays you do make dont contribute a lot

High risk, low reward

[queen cloud]

game is dead. Most of the players are on pc. Second most played platform is PlayStation.
Xbox has the least amount of players soo it's normal you don't find anyone to play.

PC:
https://imgur.com/4JTTofk

[quartz cedar]

It's end of season dude.. Everyone finished their diamond and battle pass grinds. No reason to log on

[thick sorrel]

Skill issue.
You can watch this if you want to know how to outplay Heavy's:
https://youtu.be/PtIi6oZCqk0?si=jT2IebDc7xAhKA_p

To be fair, these Heavy's were bad. A good Heavy would've crushed me.

@strong vessel Dead is exaggerated. It deserve way more players and would have if they fix fundamental issues: Ranked, Cheaters, Heavy Meta

[strong vessel]

How can you say something is dead when its clearly not by any definition of the word?

[quick coyote]

Ok tank apparently counters dps, dps counters support. What counters tank.

[stark notch]

Magic damage because tanks only got physical resistance

[rough herald]

150 fov

@wispy ivy dude i made a bad bet ok?
i gamble on head shot before i miss everything
(stood still to make the shot eazier)
@queen cloud that gun isn't made for long range my guy, you know when you see the recoil on that thing

[wispy ivy]

bruh this is the dumbest clip ive ever seen aint no way you just stood still and thought "yeah i could kill this guy before he gets me" youre a light use that extra movement speed you have to at least make the other guy aim, he couldve actually been playing completely blind and still won that fight

@rough herald if you struggle to land shots while moving i'd recommend not calling a class OP for beating you lmfao

[queen cloud]

Dam dude, u need to work on your aim Maybe that's why u running M11 relying on hipfire instead of improving your aim?
If you had xp-54 or lh1 with half decent aim you'd have destroyed that guy running below that u first shoot with M11.

Dropping like that in front of a heavy is just dumb too

[glacial geyser]

Party system is broken as fuck.
What is the point of a party if the leader can be put into a match by themselves without the rest of the party.
Happens almost every game. Then I have to wait for them to leave the match, or close the game, and then wait for the queue all over again...

[lavish shard]

In qp 30sec for found a game good for end season dead game

[cerulean marsh]

Anyone been encountering a bug where you can't throw your frag grenades?

[sleek sparrow]

hello

[high wing]

These things needs to be in patch notes for season 3.

Upgrades servers and netcode to fit the finals fast paced gameplay
Updated matchmaking, personal performance now matter. Removed ladderclimb system and added proper MMR system.
Removed aim assist / xim inputs on PC. Now only Mouse and Keyboard works on PC.
Now permbanning all cheaters.
Improved optimizations
Updated hitreg, now your shoots wont go through enemies, instead they will hit properly.
Added visible ping / latency.
Improved stability of game. Now game shouldnt crash anymore.
Updated league system with MMR so personal performance matter.
Added a lot more stats and match history to profiles.
Exploiters does now get perm banned.
Since game no longer crash, leavers now get 24h cooldown for each leave.
Game no longer have desyncs.
Updated parkour again, you now climb what you intend.
Removed defib and heal to promote skillbased gameplay.
Added profiles, you can now see stats and rank of other players.
Improved party system, you can now join party with your random team without adding them as friends first.
Fixed the faulty spawning system. People should now spawn properly and not in your face. Teams respawning should now not have an advantage.
Store credits will now show price in chosen currency as well so you know the value of your credits to promote transparency.
Fixed all exploits regarding emote canceling, gadget switching etc

[ancient iron]

an idea about new mode its payloud the player will join with only HEAVY and have a RPG only and the RPG do reloud like a normal weapon and its about a new story from CNS bcuz its the end of the season so the CNS got the target inside the terminal match and take all players inside a map (any map) but the players got glitched so all players turn to a HEAVYS and just use RPG dont have cooldown just make reloud fast like 2 sec reloud and its having target take the ext key for get out from this glitch and its from maybe 5v5 or 4teams from 3 players and but i know there is no new mode without a reward so we can make the players have a good reward like a new face or new and good hair cut or skin for guns that used and bcuz the players will use RPGs so they maybe do to much damge to the map so u can add an event from this like the last one (deal damage ) this will give the players have a good time and like a new gameplay new tactics and NEW TRY TO REACH THE FINALS (this mod maybe make our heros that manage the game find a too much bugs or errors or found any issues that maybe help them to make the game too got better more than she is!) and thanks and have a nice day for all Fighters !

[lavish shard]

Quikplay = light sword tk sniper ruined the game
Ranked = H/M shield rpg heal ruined the game
Dev wake up and split balance qp/ ranked

[idle thistle]

#👂┇game-feedback = gold channel

[queen cloud]

that wasn't long long... M11 is still usable at that range. You mouse control is just terrible and you can't track smoothly on a target moving in a straight line.
You don't even know the basics of recoil smoothing by using your movement keys together with your mouse

[tough spade]

Just want to ask if anyone has been encountering a problem whenever you try to invite a friend ingame, they join, but you cannot see them. There's also the problem of after a match, my friend, in my perspective, left the party, but in their perspective, they are still in the party.

[rough herald]

more shit to spend this more

[quick coyote]

Fix the fucking weapon wheel, i choose one gadget and the game automatically chooses the other

[zinc haven]

only if on cooldown. but still

[quick coyote]

crashing for the 3rd time of the day bro fix THIS and the most stupid thing I never seen on a game :
I launch this ranked game I'am in final this shit game crash I relaunch the game see that I am p3 3 arrow up reconnect finish the game and 1 arrow down how the fuck is this thing possible game is cool but ranked is shit as fuck I think roblo can make a better ranked system vs the finals lmfao

[kindred agate]

Hi. I have over 800 hours logged and a player since beta. Since this past update, My main menu freezes and prevents me from playing with friends. I have deleted the game several times, verified the files and I've never experienced this issue before. My alt account doesn't have any issues just my main. Also, please introduce a ranked solo game mode. Most people think Terminal attack is trash.

[gusty wagon]

for the love of this game please fix demat, it just doesnt go through certain walls, the depth needs to be increased or something to make it consistent. please

[quick coyote]

Source that most players are on PC? I'd expect it to be the lowest considering the amount of cheaters. I play PS5 and turn off crossplay just to avoid them.

[lavish shard]

Quikplay = light sword tk sniper ruined the game
Ranked = H/M shield rpg heal ruined the game
Dev wake up and split balance qp/ ranked

[upper citrus]

Or just change the ranked format to 3v3 tournament so that light is viable…

[grand quarry]

Something is wrong with the hitreg on the revolver

[quaint forge]

Yuhhhhh I just want weapons that are least used to shine a little more, like the burst pistol for the light class as well, they just need more love

[rough herald]

the bullet shoot form the middle of your screen not your gun slight (the middle of your screen don't move while your run do)

[high wing]

permban carnifex#8346

[quick coyote]

bro at first they can't make a good ranked system and a lot of people are asking for esthetics or something useless changements and dev hear them but people asking to fi crashing make a good ranking system or just make a fun game dev don't hear them I think they are just hearing gay people

[untold locust]

I love the fact that the game drops to 30fps after 30 seconds when afk in menus!
Helping my hardware, thank you🔥
Actually you're helping the whole world by saving power🤑

[woven scroll]

One game mode idea called cash box frenzy where many cash boxes will appear around the map and there one cash out station. The team who put the cash box in first before the other teams gets the money and the other teams are able to steal that money by putting a cash box that they own over it. Sometimes, the cash out station will teleport to an another location every minute. The money will stack up overtime with the money being transferred many times and the team who owns the station at the end wins. One event idea I have is where everyone is invisible and it takes that way the whole event and it works the same way as cloaking device as where you attack or interact with something like gadgets you become visible for few seconds. This will be nice for a quick steal in cash out/quick cash.

[wraith rover]

Put more free finals bucks in the battle pass for my broke ass😭

[quick coyote]

Maybe reduce the cash from Vault 5 and 6 to $20,000 as it just makes the other cashouts just feel ''worthless'' most of the time as the last one has the most money and beats the rest most of the time.

[bleak phoenix]

do you think The final could run at 120fps on xbox series s ? by reduce graphic

[tall herald]

could we get like at least 3 more loadouts? 6 is too less

[lean birch]

Maybe a kill feed could help

[stray valley]

that guys a pro pre sure hes live rn

[summer dagger]

I think 6 loud outs is enough especially since you can have reserves too but we need more of an ability to save outfits instead of having to change every item every time

[oblique kite]

Nah I dont think so (I also play on xbox s)
And please devs give us kbm support

[high wing]

pro cheater maybe, its obv he was, and he wasnt live when we met him

[cerulean summit]

Hi! By far my favourite FPS and imo best FTP game out, Thank you!
1.Now OCE ranked players are feeling the pain atm, I know we aren’t the biggest demographic but being forced to play competitive games on high ping/asia servers does make it feel like a uphill/unfair battle, ontop of the normal placement grind. If there was some acknowledgment of that and exploration into maybe a blend of Asia/OCE servers under “automatic” or “Australasia” that allocated the client/player into the the server with the lowest ping I think it would have a positive outcome. I believe that so many players queue up for a game for 2-5min in OCE and then go swap to Asia and play it there never to think about trying OCE again. There has been a smaller community that is currently trying to organise times for everyone to jump on and try get a the OCE Servers started. But I fear it’s too late. I think an auto/blended OCE and asia server would eliminate that problem as off peak time the client is sent to a further server and on peak they would be able to get low ping closer servers.

2. More details/stats on career, weap dmg/kills?

3. Updated information on skins/stickers: what event it was unlocked from or season and/or how it was unlocked.

Thanks

[loud cove]

how to fix error TFLA0002?

[lavish shard]

Quikplay
Light tk sniper sword dagger
Med gl
Heavy ft
Very fun dev 👏👏 shooter whitout aim

[zinc badger]

Fix lobby glitch, having to restart every couple games is so annoying

[sick ridge]

nice game 🗿

[quick coyote]

Please add different languages for the AI

[spare ruin]

3 quick melee finishes away from finishing the masters circuit I'm done. I don't quick melee normally and it hasn't happened in about 8 hours of gameplay. Please never have these again. Winning a tournament was easier and more natural.

[tall herald]

hate this quest too, at least they should change it too melee kills in general, 5 melee kills with sword or hammer are doable 😂

[worn spade]

only 1k players to go down to the historic 5k simultaneously connected players, and I still don't see MnK support for consoles

[upper saddle]

The Guardian Turret, the worst specialization in the game.

The Guardian Turret is such a specialization where it is easily countered and weak when not countered when faced by players with even a small amount of experience in dealing with them, being a worse area denial tool than gadgets such as barricades, goo grenades and mines of various sorts. The Guardian Turret is in such a state where it is horrible when used on it's own and simply not worth the specialization slot or toxic when used in groups and there is little that can be done about this in it's current state because of the possibility of turret spam, there's two ideas that come to mind however.

The First idea is reducing it's health to 180 from 280 and reducing it's damage per second from 40 to around 30 and turning it into a gadget allowing it to be used in conjunction with the Demat Specialization for superior control over an area with players dropping the turret down a floor or dropping players into it, or just maneuvering around the structure with the turret watching an area.

The second idea is to improve it's 'area defense capabilities' with utilitarian means which has two routes I can think of-

Route 1; From Guardian Turret to Guardian Station- Allowing the Guardian Turret to create a weaker (probably around 100-150 shielding compared to the dome shield's 350) dome shield that activates when the turret is fully activated, the shield recharging after 4 seconds of the turret not being engaged in combat. However the Guardian Turret shields will deactivate the shields of other Guardian turrets when placed too close together to prevent an awful turret stacking meta.

Route 2; Detection on the Turret- Either releasing a 10m area of effect sonar ping when it first engages a target to alert it's owner of the enemy's positions more precisely or applying a 4 second tracking dart effect to help the team locate enemies within their area of operation and more appropriately respond to the threats.

[rough herald]

i agree with most you said, but tbh im fine with turret IF the turret give me hit marker/info

@rustic grail most likely lag (unlucky)
@wind hemlock ay its hard to balance when theres so many moving part
everything interact with each other
@placid vortex its very useful when you Don't use it like other mines, thinking out side the box is fun

[wind hemlock]

The recent throwing knife change just shows how out of touch they are with balancing this game lol

[toxic saddle]

You should def Give the ability to turn of Gameshow Events in Private Matches.

[placid vortex]

holy shit who uses glitch mine

[dawn hazel]

NEW BUG MY TEAM MATES ARE INVISIBLE AND SO ARE ENEMIES AND CANNOT DO DAMAGE I CAN BE SEEN AND SHOT. FIX PLEASE

[bleak coral]

🤡

[pseudo latch]

Day 81 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[red knot]

guys... the knives are a bit to op.
make them do less damage or something, i don't care.
just make them to a weapon were the user cant make nearly 40 kills in a normal match...

[hollow valve]

Sword exploits, please fix:

Cancelling the reset time methods:
(Edit: since it's been 45 minutes I assume devs have acknowledged the exploits, so I have deleted the methods as @rough herald said to prevent them from spreading.)
1
2
3
(If devs didn't see, they can just dm me for the exploits.)

MAKE UP YOUR MIND on how the sword should perform and fix these exploits.

@rough herald I think it's ok. If the people who want to exploit sword, they would search any platform, take any measures to do it. For the ppl who don't want to, even if you tell them how they still wouldn't. With more ppl exploiting sword, there would be more ppl complaining it, and add pressure to the devs so they can solve it faster.

[rough herald]

OI Man, delete that method part quickly, we don't want people going around doing the exploit
you are spreading dark magic as we speak

edit: i see your point, but i also don't want the lintier sever to use the exploit

@proven crown and heavy barricade give too much support score

[lavish shard]

Quikplay = light sword tk sniper ruined the game
Ranked = H/M shield rpg heal ruined the game
Dev wake up and split balance qp/ ranked

[proven crown]

Sonar grenages DO NOT give enough support score to lights using them properly, plz buff

[violet elbow]

Carnifex is 100% legit

[wind hemlock]

🤡

[plain lotus]

🤡

[subtle oak]

Agree with the ranked part. Its ruled by Medium Heal and Heavy Shield. Not enough variety because thats just the strongest thing to use.

[broken fulcrum]

does anyone know why matches played dont count towards rounds until you unlock ranked? it hasnt worked for the last 2 hours

[patent lichen]

My game started asking for secureboot witch was turned off apparently but when I tried to find that feature in BIOS I didn't have it as my motherboard is old. Has anyone encountered this problem and how did you solve it?

[tribal hatch]

Cash doesn't seem to be registering in game or achievement/ trophy tracker

[terse slate]

Are you playing power shift by any chance? That does not seem to count.

[tiny marten]

https://outplayed.tv/media/Dl2zQ2
this is why you dont pick light in ranked. It doesnt matter how good you are or how bad the heavy is. He will almost always come out on top because all of his gadgets are "oh fuck im losing because I suck at the game button".

rpg charge n slam need a complete rework

[lament sable]

Please nerf these throwing knives getting deleted every game with no fighting chance atall

[hollow breach]

Please rework the seoul map. When the cashout is in the hospital and the bridge is destroyed. You'll have the worst spawn points ever because two teams will spawn essentially next to each other trying to fight their way to the hospital. It's a huge choking point with no cover and the defnders have a the high ground already with low risks. On top of that the map variation High Rise makes this map even worse as the choking points will be ten times worse. The map is too oppresssive and feels and small. You'll spawn next to the enemies without a chance to even breath and asses the situation....

[bleak coral]

have you tried strafing?

[queen cloud]

does this game even have strafing? Direction changes are like a truck turning 😄

[wind hemlock]

@lament sable Ignore @bleak coral Clearly some delusional Throwing knife player

[fair dagger]

There needs to be some sort of compensation for playing ranked with a team of less than 3 people

[viral citrus]

never EVER add a quest “steal 10 cashouts in progress” ITS IMPOSSIBLE WITH RANDOMS

[olive iron]

how is ti possible i win 2 ranked games 3 arrows up to go to diamond i play the 3rd game we lose on second round and now i´m 2 arrows down

[stray valley]

Play medium shotgun then come back and say that

[coral axle]

DAY 13 OF ASKING FOR FSR 3.0 AND FRAME GENERATION!

[hollow valve]

Yes at least ads strafe speed is very slow. If you want to strafe faster(can't ads so can't win a 1v1 no ads required weapon) or dodging fast (changing direction to left or right but you can't aim at enemies), you are merely delaying your inevitable death facing an infinite ammo weapon.

[bleak coral]

well theres 0.15 sec delay to wasd, there used to be delay on jumping too but that actually felt awful.
after you get used to the wasd delay e.g. pressing 0.15 secs early its easy to strafe..
heavy you can barely strafe yeah, but thats why "heavy OP" lol

[rugged gazelle]

Throwing Knives is so annoying. They steal real fun from game. Every second match they just trolling dash-hit-dash
Even normal knife or sword more balansed. Nerf this joke pls.

[pseudo latch]

Throwing knives do similar-or-less damage to any of lights other viable weapons right now while being way less consistent. Youre just upset youre dying to something new.

[gritty umbra]

i just want to say this game is my dream game. when i was a wee lad i always dreamt of a game where u could destroy anything and make insane plays bc the game was just batshit insane. tha k u embark 4 making mini me's dream come true lol

[rough herald]

can stuff not do 90% of my health bar worth of damage pls? leaving me at 10hp pratically a one shot me aways

[wispy steeple]

a petition to give all hoodies an option to put the hood on

[stuck torrent]

Please buff snoke granade

[little locust]

uhhh not sure if this is just a me thing, but since yesterday's patch I'm getting 20 fps when I get into a fight. every patch has slowly made this game less and less optimized from what I'm seeing. not sure if this is widespread, but def something I'm seeing and I've heard from my friends

[whole acorn]

this is becoming a bitch ass game fr (ranked)

[bleak coral]

real, throwing knives can just switch to m11 which is a direct upgrade..
m11 is so much more insufferable, same with most of the other hitscan weapons in the game.

[violet elbow]

good vicc take, love to see that

[rocky smelt]

Why do some of you join Terminal Attacks to instantly leave as soon as round 1 begins? Play the game or don't join one, especially since Terminal doesn't load in new teammates...

[lavish shard]

Buff tk horrible for quikplay 8/9 play light and for counter that people play heavy FT and Medium GL 😴😴
Light need boost only in ranked

[pseudo latch]

Gonna miss you Skul, only one week till youre gone :c

[quick coyote]

just delete ranked if you don't change it

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Rework cloak into a stealth only ability. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[void kite]

This only happens when you are filling or joining an already started match. Just leave and go next

[primal tide]

Are there plans to make watches/wrist accessories visible over longer gloves? Not sure how much work that would require. It's just slightly annoying at how many gloves remove other wrist ware, when you would think they should fit just fine.

[rough herald]

static crosshair and as many option as overwatch

[upper citrus]

MY GOAT 🗣️

The only issue with throwing knives is that they give really poor feedback for the person fighting them so it feels frustrating to be hit by them. It kinda feels like you’re just randomly taking damage while the light is staring at you.

But yes their performance is completely fine

[azure quest]

yes

[ember island]

This explains a lot now. Still kind of frustrating to fight against, but at least there is less of a reason to get angry.

[pseudo latch]

My only issue is four knives to kill a medium is a little much. They really didn’t need to fuck with the breakpoints.

[high ruin]

The scoreboard should display which round it is

[tiny marten]

Heavy class needs to become more skill based. Its so stupid when they dont hit one shot with their huge mag, showing how bad that are to begin with... BUT IT DOESNT MATTER. They just charge your ass, or rpg. The class is just horribly busted its insane.

RPG needs to become more destruction based, with much less damage but a faster regen.

Charge needs to become more destruction based, stronger push back, and maybe a very short stun effect. 130 damage is insane and doesnt belong to a class with 350 hp. neither does a 140 damage rpg. How the devs allow this is so FUCKING STUPID.

[whole acorn]

deadass + are barricades unbreakable?? watdafakk

[hardy bridge]

this game needs more online presence a meet the team style series of videos involving the ceos of the companies or scotty and june would be sick

[ember island]

@whole acorn Barricades are breakable. It’s about the same as a normal wall, maybe a bit stronger in terms of durability, except as a gadget; which in turn is pretty strong, but after the nerf with heavies not being able to peak their head over it, it’s legit just a brick wall.

Also, whoever posted that four paragraph review in here is pretty bold.

[queen cloud]

even without the movement delay. Changing directions in this game is slow, the target slow down /speed up while changing directions, unlike other games like overwatch where u start at max strafing speed every time u change directions. Making short strafes impossible to track accurately.

But y the movement delay is awful in this game. Makes playing around cover feel like driving a truck. Either by peeking with crouch on headglitch or on a corner with AD it feels way to slow and you can't poke/abuse cover like in other games.

More responsive movement/ faster direction changes would be really good for this game. Not making movement faster, but more responsive overall and higher skill gap

[proven crown]

How can the game penalize you for playing in a duo the whole game?? You should not rank down for that

[whole acorn]

smh at these gun balances fuck that healing shit too man what the fuck type of bullshit i used to love this game so much but its fucking horrible piece of shit

[flint pecan]

anybody notice the game doesn't update the damage taken as smoothly as before. Feels like all of a sudden I lost all or a big chunk of my health at once

[hexed frigate]

idk if you guys heard something about roll lock but it sound like a horrible idea, if they want to balance it that way it would be better if you could play 3 of the same class, but each one has to use a different specialization, like 3 mediums but only one with the healing beam, another with the turret and the other with the data reshaper.

[teal minnow]

Add pros - cons window when choosing weapon ,gadget or specialization and a rating of how HARD it is to master the weapon. This would remove 90% of the useless complains. Add a match history which shows gamemode , rank leveling up or down if ranked , kill / match etc.

[floral plover]

Ice lolly skin!! Per kill you get 1 plus layer!! When you are playing the ice lolly melts so you better win quick 😉 #1243918013615570974

[dusk heath]

i've been getting forced quit lately, i was just in the middle of a power shift and now the game decides to just quit midway

[junior dawn]

remove flamethrower it takes no skill at all

its not a good weapon in the game. its annoying as hell to face, and its not effective most of the time. just remove it.

[trail kelp]

but you cant do anything with it tho cuz any medium w/ ak can hit all headshots at that range and win

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Rework cloak into a stealth only ability. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[oak raven]

keep throwing knives as they are its nice to have another viable light weapon

[oblique kite]

Yes please!!!

[wild lance]

Anyone have issues with stats not working, Cant unlock classes or gamemodes even though I've played like 10 games, stats are all at 0

[sharp herald]

please can you make this charm individually purchasable, or something similar? ty love you bye

[upper citrus]

Don’t nerf throwing knives

[snow burrow]

Yeah stats dont work for me either and I noticed after I got at least 1mil in cash for the 50m trophy on psn. This sucks. Please give me my money back xD

[pseudo breach]

Is there some kind of bug that after every single match one or more teammates are no longer in your party? And can't re-invite them unless the game is restarted?

[tired valley]

Is there a place I can suggest a weapon skin with pics? Specifically for the light's mac-like SMG?

[narrow pilot]

Guys we have huge problems. The first one is that we don't have "stun gun". I think it is not stun gun, it is glitch gun.

[dusty halo]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1246649510957023242

[tender sigil]

In this update guys there are bugs . I couldnt use zipline jumpad and also my weapon refused to shoot

[strong vessel]

#1075060148004991067

[coral citrus]

happens to me and my mates all the time now too... if you you wait a bit it usually fixes itself but it is still really annyoing

[flat stump]

Having an issue where my buddy and I have played every game mode but doesn't count on our stats and we can't get light or heavy characters any suggestions/feedback, have restarted the game 3 times and restarted pc

[frosty ingot]

Biggest bug I had was permanent motion sensor on enemy team. I could see them as if they had a motion sensor all times even on spawn

[rigid shale]

i was wrong; it's still broke.

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Rework cloak into a stealth only ability. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[crystal storm]

nerf throwing daggers already, its ruining my games. its actually so braindead this could have made it past any form of testing.

[patent night]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[prime wing]

light sim till season 3 yayyyyy

[pseudo breach]

It's extremely annoying. Started happening with the 2.11.0 update.

@proxie.exe Grenade launcher the fuck out of them.

[narrow pilot]

Guys we have huge problems. The first one is that we don't have "stun gun". I think it is not stun gun, it is glitch gun. When i fired stun gun, guys continue firing me. We need effect like slowing firing rate. The second one is that i'm a light player and i can get killed easyly. This normal but i cannot give high damages with my guns. I'm playing with "M11" or "XP-54" when i use them i cannot kill heavy easyly even i cannot kill medium easyly. This is not fair because i can get killed easyly. We need balance. Heavy guys can kill lights easyly with lewis gun. And also they have more hp than lights this is not fair.

[quick coyote]

Light class is meant to deal reasonable damage and help the team, you are the fastest character in the game, so think a bit twice and use that mobility of yours more, strafe, make enemies move their crosshair more, so you won't be an easy target for them, also you need to play risky. Attack from behind a lot and aim for the head, most of the time

[proper barn]

meant

[unique nimbus]

Game needs to allow us to choose what maps we want to play for tournament like every other game. That glitch map for tournaments is one of the worst, at least let us not play on it

[somber timber]

PREACH

[honest verge]

2 crashes to desktop out of 3 games. I hope this is sorted before s3 starts

[queen cloud]

if you can't get your pc sorted it won't. s3 won't magically make the game lighter on cpu/ram/imc

[subtle bolt]

That's very unlikely for most players. Plus, this game is cashout based - meaning you have to be close quarters. With the flamethrower it is very fast TTK compared to most other guns, and the lasting flames cause most players to still die to them after killing the heavy. If they don't remove it, it at least needs a nerf on the lasting flames.

[trail kelp]

I did the unlikely thing twice today and its TTK is very low, if hit your shots

[west dock]

Any word on the crashing issue with the game? Recent update made the game unlaunchable for me. Tried everything from reinstalling the finals, Nvidia drivers, etc. nothings working besides running -dx11 but the game runs like absolute trash using DX11 instead of 12

[crystal storm]

absolutely hate that this game went from a fast paced tactical shooter to some wacky gimmick loadout game.

thowing knifes, dash sword, M grenade launcher, flame thrower - all just too effective for what they are

[regal ferry]

split thanks into 2 halves, thanks, and hype\

[glad vapor]

Is this ironic?

[high tartan]

I'd like to mention it again: I know that AI "art" is a sensitive topic in general, but I'd still like to leave my feedback regarding this topic here. Barely anyone mentioned before that they're charging actual money for generated images (stickers you can put on your weapons). Please do better embark, generative AI steals from artists, please commission artists for your in-game stickers that you're charging actual money for. Videogames are a form of art, so please respect other forms of art. I know my feedback won't change much about this issue but I hope other people will also stand up for this.

[raven topaz]

fk u for making throwing knives op

[sharp jasper]

fr ^

[brittle harness]

REVERT THE FREAKING THROWING KNIFES

[whole acorn]

this season sucked ass

[tropic swift]

No way bro just said that

[iron horizon]

PLEASEEEEEEEEEE FIX YOUR RANK SYSTEM FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IM TIRED OF GETTING MATCHED WITH FULL LOBBIES OF DIMOND AND IM PLAT 4/3 THIS ISNT FAIR AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[young hamlet]

Suggestion:
Add more gloves. I just feel that there isnt a lot of them

[pseudo breach]

Day 67 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

Please fix the poor hit registration 🥲

[ivory swallow]

I'm not understanding why they are decreasing the characteristics of the game to make it less frenetic, they removed the sonar, because almost no one other than a 200 IQ being can use it anymore, they added physics to the objects, when there is a deposit in the air, being light or sometimes medium there is no way to destroy the floor of the structures since only the propane tank requires much more time and skill to calculate the blow to the structure,
If we compare Sombra (OW2) and its invisibility, it is designed to be so, since being light it should have opportunities to annoy and not just make kills, you have EMP grenades, why reduce the shield if you already have 4 counters for the shield that you disable instantly.

[wary kestrel]

@pearl kiln when will there be a new playstation bundle ?

[novel mauve]

Day 1 of asking for a saxophone emote (I forgot to continue it)

[daring fossil]

can we get voice lines that say "bombs away" when you right-click a frag

[gritty umbra]

all my homies hate console exclusive cosmetics

[woven meadow]

League points for ranked would be much better than the system we currently have

[short flax]

Charge'n'slam is bullshit. It deals too much damage, can damage you three times in a row without a chance to dodge it because of the knockback lock, and, moreover, Heavy can jump and deal UNAVOIDABLE AoE. All of this with one press of a button. And also, in one fight Heavy used it THREE TIMES one after another on cooldown. Why the hell such a powerful ability have so low cooldown and takes so little skill to be impactful in any fight? It HAS to be nerfed. It is unfun to play against, especially if you use melee weapons.

[finite briar]

whar? spreading misinformation? flamethrower doesn't have that high ttk. Look at a ttk chart for all guns. someone complied it in a google sheet

[sharp herald]

I uninstalled - the knives change has just tipped the game back into something that's not for me.
The GL spam is a bit tedious, but at least you can hear where it's coming from, and doesn't delete over half your HP without any sort of telegraphing - I thought it would be patched - it was not, I'm not going to play like this for another week - hope it changes, if not, good luck in S3 I guess.

[keen light]

GL should not do less damage to the person using it than the damage it inflicts on opponents when shooting it at the ground. Furthermore, APS should destroy 10 gadgets before it gets broken, not 3.

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Rework cloak into a stealth only ability. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[iron bough]

Literally the only Light weapon I'm enjoying right now...

[lavish shard]

I understand bro but 9 light whit tk is not fun

[harsh flint]

anyone know why my quickplay games aren't counting to ranked rounds to unlock

[round matrix]

Anyone else keep freezing and lagging out of their games/server connections etc?? Happens to others in my games. Happening every single game its rough

[lapis jasper]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT DERANK US BECAUSE OUR TEAMMATES LEAVE

[dense ivy]

Can we please just make glitch grenades cumulative at least.. or I guess just like the glitch effect in general so if I hit someone with a glitch barrel+ glitch grenade they’re glitched for 10 seconds?

Would also make glitch mines somewhat more valuable tbh

[glad ore]

Party play is completely broken right now -- my duo has to restart the client between every game or we can't queue up because it shows them as not in a party and shows me that we're still in a group, even when they're literally offline restarting. :/

[vocal mason]

Once again calling for a nerf for the throwing knives, the recent buff has made them overpowered and annoying.

[muted ice]

lot's to cover and not tons of characters to use: HP: Lights: 150->175, Heavies 350->325, reduce dmg on utility greatly if lights do not get health buff and mildly if they do, Weapons/TTK: Throw mediums a bone, they have no shot against lights or heavies without getting the jump on them AND hitting perfect shots, not realistic in this game, even within the top players in the community, mediums are glorified heal bots rn and need some tlc. On the topic of weapons, heavies shouldn't be the healthiest, most defensive, and have some of the best and easiest use weapons in the game, its chronically imbalanced and needs to be adjusted. Lights getting an adjusted grapple would be nice, allow them to have more precise control and release whenever they'd like conserving momentum, could also add in a grapple gun equipment that function as current grapple does with reduced range and higher CD. Mediums need an Overhaul, feels like you're throwing if you do hardly anything beside heal bot, not much of our equipment outside of defib and movement is usable currently(this does not mean that these are overtuned...it means the rest is largely useless and undertuned currently), and while dematerializer was a much needed add for the medium class, it desperately needs a bit of a buff, quicker recharge or more base uses. Heavies, a chronic stain of ease of play and state of being overtuned has made me despise this class. Most health, best and most versatile kit of weapons and equipments, and to top it all off their only debuff is "speed" and "lack of mobility" which would matter if they couldn't bunker down so well OR use the goo stun on the goo gun to completely invalidate any kind of counterplay against them and then mow you down at their leisure. Goo stun isn't fun and isn't something that heavies need access to in their kits. Overall, close the health gap, and close the TTK gap, nerf utility as a whole, doesn't need to be this strong, and throw mediums a bone, its painal out here rn.

[stone hazel]

remove sniper oh my god this isnt fun to play against
i shouldnt be forced to play heavy with walls and a dome because one (1) sniper is on the enemy team in power shift

[worn sigil]

Snipers are sooo ez to counter in Powershift
Plus Sniping is soooo satisfying

[proven crown]

The gateway indicator, when throwing it, just feels off, like it pops too soon, maybe it should be more like an impact grenade

[cosmic parcel]

yapping. basically a nerf heavies and buff lights begfest.

[cursive oxide]

Not sure why my kills aren’t registering when i look at my Statistics. It’s stood at the same # all day .. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[pallid jetty]

Throwing Knives were over-buffed. They are being effectively abused in ranked.

[upper citrus]

Throwing knives have the same ttk as the smgs and worse ttk than the LH1. They’re not over buffed at all. Also, light is supposed to kill fast so I don’t really see the issue

[muted ice]

tyty, you can cancel with crouch but you lose almost all momentum instantly, which feels bad for how movement dependent lights are since a random accidental frag leaves you with 1 hp. @cosmic parcel man literally read half a line and gave up 😂 overall I just want all the classes to feel viable, engaging, and have options for play

[cosmic parcel]

Don't think he took your advice on ignoring me.

Just because you find someone that parots your opinion doesn't make you more correct. I agree that lights need to be buffed but there are also biased takes mixed in. Embark has the final say regardless and I doubt theyll agree with every single idea

[terse lark]

please add an option to turn off glitch effect on clothing

[flat solstice]

Just an idea but maybe to make fire more viable, would it be useful if damaging a contestant on fire dealt additional damage?

[crisp heart]

I wasn't aware that any of the stickers (or any of the other stuff you pay for) was AI generated. Honestly, I couldn't have ever have told, so im assuming there must've been some human involved in the process. otherwise why do they even have artists working for them haha? where'd you hear about them generating stickers?

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Rework cloak into a stealth only ability. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[tropic swift]

People gotta stop spamming the same messages like this it's straight up annoying

[mortal flame]

Please fix fill in matchmaking (or whatever it’s called) for when people leave the game bc both of my teammates left and it took till near mid game for me to get one teammate back to help me. We won in the end but it still annoying.

[sacred isle]

Matchmaking needed rework.

[tardy orchid]

I would thoroughly appreciate a month where no new cosmetics or any other fancy stuff is added and the focus is just on ironing out all the bugs.

[stark notch]

is it intentional that the new AOE melee buff can hit through shields now?

[sage sonnet]

Embark please add a feature that unistalls the game from your computer when you quit mid-match

[tawny oriole]

Why the fuck when i block a player he get matched with me again ?

[cosmic parcel]

If me responding to a reply in a thread of clashing ideals on game balance apparently equates to ego, what would your constant replies from both of you to me mean with the same line of thinking?

Let's level the realness and reduce the pointless grandstanding a bit here. A single sentence on how I think his ideas are bad doesn't hurt you. At the end of the day both his reply and mine are just a clashing of ideas on game balance regardless of how those opinions are represented. Writing a manifesto of your psychoanalysis assessment based on a total of 9 words is also unproductive. If you want me to give my full take on why I don't agree and elaborate my points in order to be more productive in the discussion of game balance, then just say so, but don't expect your preaching of "reflection" to suddenly humble me. This is not cinema and this isn't Twitter.

The reason I claimed your take ( @muted ice ) was a beg fest is because you admitted yourself you despised heavies due to previous history you had with facing them, but ignore the current bugs that make some of your points pretty out of touch with all things considered.

in particular, the changes you listed heavily favors balance in terms of lights and negatively towards heavies. While heavies are strong in the meta I don't think the HP value is really relevant as lights can pick off heavies with a really low ttk regardless. However I do think Lights can be bumped a bit as they are very squishy. Even then, I don't like that idea works very well in practice unless dash gets tuned a bit as lights can effectively get out of any situation and abuse its extremely low cooldown. That combined with the fact that goo is completely glitched out and broken right now to the point where lights can effectively dash out of goo, I think the take overall is pretty bad. Goo would have to be fixed in many ways for a nerf towards the gadget to be fair. Mediums I pretty much agree with but that wasn't my original focus when I read your feedback.

[full bronze]

Didnt you guys update the game so we dont join a game that is pretty much over already or did I miss something? haha

[fading zealot]

They nerfed the Data Reshaper, instead of turning Explosive canisters into gas canisters and back to gas, it turns it into smoke, WTH TheFinals, Goo turned into smoke and vice versa, now explosive turns into smoke? Now it's completely useless

[young hamlet]

Heavies are underpowered. I killed so many heavies with a RIOT SHIELD. A RIOT SHIELD. The defensive weapon

Hot take but medium is most powerful class at the moment

[thorny parcel]

Honestly the 3v3v3 is a terrible format lol

[quick coyote]

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[green wharf]

Love the game but you NEED to make it so when your team gets a cashout it also counts towards your challenge
Cant tell you the number of times I do all the work and my teamates swoop in and steal it

[vestal basin]

Make a Battle royale game mode

[muted ice]

Heavies are more than just strong they are the meta in every which way right now and need a lot of tuning to be even remotely okay within the current meta, too tanky, too much killing power, and they possess too many counters that negate all their negatives, nerfing heavies is absolutely called for and has been for a while. edit: @quick coyote i just think that if the HP ranges were closer they could feel more comfortable closing the gap in TTK and kill power over all, if lights got 175 they'd get accidentally insta-gibbed less, and if heavies were at 325 and their dmg evened out a bit, they'd have a solid space in the meta but feel far less oppressive to play against in all game modes. and obviously with nerfs or buffs of any kind, there is some give and take normally, but in heavies case i feel like they can afford a few solid hits with the nerf bat in a row before they'd need any compensation to maintain a balanced meta

[tropic swift]

Agreed some of the challenges should count if your teammates do it

[fringe burrow]

Did yall break fire in the last update? It went from afterburn doing about 30 or so dmg then fizzling out to just burning on me infinitely till I die now, seems like a kinda huge bug if so and a terrible design decision if intentional

[terse lark]

please add an option to turn off glitch effect on clothing

[finite briar]

you must be a riot shield user because this happens when the shield is on fire
or you're a light

[full oak]

yall really gotta replace a mode with terminal attack, loving it too much

[silent helm]

please add a duck charm or other cosmetic. i like it so much

[brave jacinth]

The spawns on Ranked games NEED to be better. The whole game was fighting over a cashout so I went and started another one across the map. It got about halfway done and we got team wiped. Okay I can handle that, but this was the overtime cashout and it spawned us TWO HUNDRED SEVENTEEN METERS AWAY. With 40s left to make a play. We made it back by the time there was 10s left this was on SYS Horizon (Worst cashout map dont lie.)

[tawny oriole]

Please add new modes and new maps in season 3, I'm bored by now

[shut gyro]

Please revert the Fcar recoil pattern since the damage has been nurf, also revert lewis gun recoil pattern as it is the hardest recoil in the game, and give us the choice to practice range as a party while waiting for ranked game, lastly please consider making the game 120 fps for consoles

[candid flower]

Atp remove heavys

[cosmic parcel]

You kind of ignored the point with goo being completely nerfed already anyway. But I can see how heavies are meta. Meta or strong is relative dont take it too literally. The point was it's understandable how they have strong staying power in the meta. I just think personally mediums are just as busted if not more.

[willow leaf]

Lower rpgs damage. Give a delay to mesh shield so you can’t open it instantly. Replace the healing beam with a healing circle that you place down like the aps. Also add healing bombs. Replace turret with a manual turret instead of a automatic one. Rework cloak into a stealth only ability. Replace the stun gun with a aps type gadget that stuns people like before the nerf if you’re in its circle. Make it so you can cancel a defib revive by shooting the silhouette it makes and make glitch grenades cancel it too. Allow lights to have faster regen. Make the grapple better too.

[young hamlet]

Leaving penalties:
Should do what LoL does
5 minute to start (maybe it was an emergency) then an hour, then 12, then 24, then 72, then a week, then a month, then a permanent

The count would reduce after let's say, 2 weeks of no leaving (or maybe 25 games, idk)

[sage sonnet]

i recind my earlier suggestion. Instead of unistalling the game from the computers of those who leave in the middle of a match it should doxx them so i can send them stuff in the mail

[ruby halo]

There should be a limit on how many people use the same gun in power shift, 3-4 people on each team using light sniper makes such a boring gameplay loo

[full oak]

add the skip button at the end of the match when you can actually skip so I dont mash it pointlessly for 10 seconds before it does anything

[fringe burrow]

Nope, medium main and usually use revolver, don't use riot shield ever and I've had this happen multiple times where the afterburn is doing well over 200 damage and I die if I catch even the tiniest bit of fire running over something. It doesn't seem consistent, sometimes it fizzles per usual, and sometimes it sticks till I die. Ill try and grab some recordings when it happens since I would assume bug from lack of consistency. Same with heavy friends sometimes, but they will stay on fire till I hit them with a heal beam then they go out.

[ember island]

It's not a bug really. The game has been told that the Riot Shield is considered any normal hard surface like the ground, goo, or essentially just any type of surface the has fire linger last longer. It's not something you can't get rid of, unless you run into smoke which would put it out. Why it is like this in the first place, I don't know. It could have been intentional, but I doubt it to be a bug.

[cold bolt]

ranked elo does not feel good

• bring back exact values, no one likes arrows, you can say that ppl are gaming the system or something but fact is someone wins and someone loses, what are ppl gonna do just by knowing how elo values are calculated that you would need to hide it with arrows
• elo values need to be more sophisticated since cash out (knockout rounds) are sophisticated. It's a common strategy in this game that you try to manipulate the most threatening team out before final round by intentionally causing a 9v3 situation (vaults 5 & 6) and help a bad team get through in their place. Elo needs to somehow calculate when things like this are done and reduce the penalty to the victimized team
• on top of point two above is the fact that lobbies do not match same ranks with each other, so if you manipulate a bad/low ranked team in place of a higher rank team, that higher ranked team loses even more bc the team that placed higher is lower ranked (please just match same ranks with each other)
• leaver rank protection for when someone leaves that isn't in your party needs to be a thing
• elo gains are (apparently) weighted by your individual performance, but that seems to be limited to kills in my experience. It should weigh things like healing and blocked dmg etc to be worth more than they are in current version