👂┇game-feedback

[sharp wyvern]

I am confused.. The patch notes mention how you can now buy individual items from bundles, but that currently only applies to 1 bundle. Will that same thing be available to old bundles?

[spark shard]

welcome to the biggest joke ever

[static wolf]

Barricade nerf why?

[teal minnow]

"and for the first time ever, we’re adding AN outfit bundle to the store where you can chose to buy individual items from the bundle"

[turbid gate]

Dude embark. Do better….
Nerf the weakest class in the game……… buff medium……make minimal changes…….add item to shop.

[silver granite]

so the reason for nerfing the stun gun was casue it was a garenteed kill to much of the time lmao maybe the rpg shouldnt do 140 dmg then hmmmmm

[graceful hollow]

erm what the sigma

[arctic bramble]

it’s unbelievable heavy keeps a stupid strong RPG and charge and slam, while they are wasting their efforts on nerfing light 💀 unreal.

[ashen peak]

Increased the Stun Gun projectile’s maximum travel distance from 12m to 16m
wtf revert this 😭

imagine firing a stun gun irl from 16 meters, isn't a stun gun close range only

[modern bramble]

this this this

[vagrant stag]

The RPG should be an insta kill to lights with how long it takes to get it back and how fast a light can move and put out damage

[patent sphinx]

No, it's not. RPG nerf was for the reason, you know?

[stark remnant]

Very cool patch indeed, can't wait to try it. Plus 2 new pages on the BP!? Hell yeah

[floral plume]

I thought people wanted old cloak back, but they just made it weaker?

[hard badger]

They are litterly doing what the community asked for...

[pseudo latch]

Guys. Barricade? Really?

Yall just wont let us have anything

[rough herald]

Stun gun: my personal feedback

• stun gun is primarily use to make enemy easier to kill, not guaranteeing a kill but easier to kill
• stun gun is primarily use for close range encounter so buffing it range make no different in play style or give the light any advantage at all (in rare situation yes but those are rare)
• i personaly think giving the stuned player the ability to ADS is good as it give the stuned player a fighting change that base on skill. but letting them use everything else is just too much.

Suggestion:

• only give the stuned player ADS and no more
• the range buff no nothing so maybe give it a 20damage on impact or something

[winter abyss]

Can we get a flamethrower buff ?

[delicate pawn]

anyone know any ideas for xp buffs for gadgets because getting everything to purple at this rate will take some years especially if they just add more levels

[sinful willow]

Damn we didn't get the xp from the contracts we finished for the bonus lvls?

[burnt dawn]

I havent played yet

about the ranked-skill progression
"once a player’s skill level is established it’s actually very hard to improve it without really hard work and meaningful training or practice.”
could you make sure there is at least there is a minimum level of progression?

during and shortly after placements you should move up more quickly. but when the system eventually decides on the players skill level it shouldn't be impossible for the player to change it. there should be a minimum gain, so the player can know with certainty that they are making meaningful progress.

also, should've just removed the stun gun after those changes.

[proud eagle]

I think we need a cheater-alert-ping in game. and what do u mean by level of offense? i didnt know there are tiers in cheatings.

[glad lance]

Lowered the requirement to start private matches to 2 players
This is one of the best and healthiest changes you ever made, thank you Embark my beloved

[void creek]

perm ban all cheaters. no fucking idea why you'd give them a second chance on a free to play game.

[random scarab]

Let us buy all bundle items separately, complete the consumer friendly arc

[proven ibex]

REDUCED TOURNAMENT SIZE 🔥🔥
and all the patch notes with FCAR Nerf but mag size n stungun, cosmetics, rp extra pages... damn

I fkng love you Embark 😍😍😍😍😍😍 I really mean it

This is fkng huge for your loyal players .

[river plover]

you broke the dagger it is literally impossible to dash stab now please please please fix it I just want to play dagger

[daring notch]

Can we buy Other bundles separately?

[short oracle]

I wish we could see the yellow bar on tm8s

[kind light]

So you guys killed the only way for Light to Fight Mesh Heavy. Glitch nade can be used properly only after Heavy already used a shield. Now for this to work Light need both Stun Gun slot (to cancel cashout) and Glitch nade to kill Heavies. Also L is more visible, lul
Thank you for nerfing the weakest and the least popular class in ranked!
Being driven by whining of some players instead of balancing the game based on real state, data and stats - looks not really professional.

[twin heart]

Shield spam was definitely needed to be nerfed on Heavy but i wish barricade nerf was offset with some buffs to underwhelming weapons such as Flamethrower or MGL.

[reef jasper]

why do you all hate light so much

[swift horizon]

Agreeing with this, nobody wants to see a stunned heavy rocket your ass, put up mesh shield, put up dome, charge away or at you, ect, pretty much nullifying the stun gun entirely.

ADS is fine.

Unless Embark make it so where Stun gun completely disables all and locks someone in place for a short period, or until the stunned person takes any damage, which then will slow movement /disable jump but enables everything else. At least this will give time to Light player to close the distance.

[oblique hill]

please give an option to go back to the old health bars, new one is so hard to see

[gusty wagon]

excited to try the new update thanks

[harsh lichen]

Please get rid of these stupid arrows in ranked and let me see my points. All this does is tell me that the team is not confident in the new ranking system and I have no way to actually tell how close I am to ranking up or how my stats affect my rank.

[red arch]

buff AKM and FAMAS

[signal basin]

Im with you. Whinners win. No one want light but apparently they need to be nerf. Lul

DEV WTF ARE YOU SMOKING ?

[earnest elbow]

they uploaded a whole new article about ranked: https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/ranked/

because of several reasons, they probably won't overhall the ranked system for this season.

... Our plan now is to rework the ranked league system again at the start of Season 3

there's so much information in the new patch notes, it's insane and i absolutely love how they communicate with us. the dev notes about anti-cheat are also nice to have.
it's just not easy to "get rid of the stupid arrows" because of things we're not aware of. but embark is doing their absolute best to communicate as much as they can.

So peeps, things will get even better (this is already my personal favorite fps game by far), keep playing, keep writing feedback and keep copping those skins to support the team that the gaming community needs.

[rough herald]

can we get another nerf for the weakest class in the game pls?

[daring fossil]

W patch. Revolver needs buffs though, I loved it and used to main it (when I play medium) but you're at a disadvantage in every way by using it. Too much RNG for such a high skill weapon.

Also please fix the emote cancel exploit with the sword, and while you're at it fix the sword not registering when stabbing while/after falling (for all the sword users out there who don't abuse the exploit)

[sour parrot]

should i go to toilet or should i shit myself

[limpid widget]

#isdirectionalaudiofixedyet?

[toxic shadow]

which embark dev keeps eating shit to lights in qp lol? the class is useless and keeps getting nerfed.

[wraith igloo]

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. Once a cheat, always a cheat.

[wicked tiger]

Russian aimbotter in my first match of Terminal Attack. Great.

[indigo geyser]

Is adding a genuine text chat an option? Sure pings and voice chat are great, but I’m one of those players who’s open mic and no one else talks. At all. Is there any way we can improve the experience for our non-verbal players?

[rigid vessel]

full on cheater 1st round
anti cheat update didnt work sadly

[lilac mango]

I think that Light should be permanently removed from the game because it's far too powerful, the only other option is to remove all Light specializations and weapons, far too powerful devs please nerf.

Note: Apparently dagger was silently nerfed too, I can't believe you guys killed the most inconsistent yet fun weapon in the game. FIX the backstabs or DON'T nerf the dagger. It's infuriating you guys even THOUGHT this was a good idea considering the state it's in. Fix your damn game, jesus christ. I want to play dagger again.

[delicate notch]

Okay, this is really starting to be annoying. I main light, I know, unpopular. But when playing Ranked it is VERY tough to get far. I don’t use the stun gun and I do not want to, ppl, as far as I know, hate this thing. But it got off VERY easy. Invis and cloak however got nerfed hard. I really don’t understand why. The healthiest thing, imo, would have been to remove stun gun and replace it. I like to play sword with dash and vanish, now ppl see me even better, they could already see me well before, and so could I see others that were invis. The loud vocal cue also helps a ton. Is that not enough?
I want everyone to be able to enjoy this game, but these changes continuously make it very hard for me to enjoy it myself.

[sturdy ginkgo]

I'm inclined to agree, the cloak was only oppressive because of the stun gun.
With the stun nerf, I wouldn't mind the cloak going back to how it was.

If I play light I play cloak as a crutch, I'm not good enough to use the other 2 affectively

[kindred burrow]

CAN YOU GUYS PLEASE MAKE SBMM STRONGER IM SICK OF MY TEAMMATES NOT SHOOTING BACK OR EVEN GETTING A KILL FOR THAT MATTER PLEASE

[river plover]

Dagger straight up doesnt work anymore

[thin grail]

How do you join different teams in a private match?

[sudden tangle]

Just remove the Light class at this point @pearl kiln
It's not viable in any way at all.

[fast ferry]

I need elaboration regarding "banning cheaters". It was mentioned in the patch notes that cheaters get, and I quote: "7-Day ban or a permanent ban" on their first offense.

How on earth is cheating not a permanent ban but a 7 day ban and ONLY AFTER the second time getting caught a permanent ban?

IMO, hardware ban those effers permanently. Shameful to see that Embark only slaps some cheaters onto the wrist with a u
7-day ban on their first offense.

[polar shell]

OMG SOOO MANY CHEATS NOW pls let us report ppl we are spectating and do more to promote cross-platform off

[topaz acorn]

im seeing a huge divide in the community between casual players saying light is much too strong and ranked players saying light is much too weak
NAH NO WAY THATS A HALF HOUR SLOW MODE TIMER

[cerulean stag]

The extra rewards and QOL updates are very much appreciated. New game mode is pretty fun too with a decent team. But the fcar nerf was rough maybe give it a bit more fire power back. Light is very weak in the new mode so I get they need some advantage, but the invis feels like it just last forever. Heavys new shield is also useless now, revert the height. I don't feel like light is OP the kit just has a few busted aspects with the invis and the hitbox when they're up on your ankles with a sword

[slender wave]

Dont know if anyone else has noticed, but backstabs with the dagger after the Aim Assist changes are so much more inconsistent now, enemies will be standing still with their back to me and it wont register. I feel like its going into their hitbox and hitting the front.

[woven hawk]

My game is running smoother than ever before

[arctic bramble]

Next nerf embark please: heavy rpg splash damage and heavy charge and slam damage
thank you embark.

[strong escarp]

Return the glitch effect on Stun Gun.

It's already enough that stunned players can ADS and crouch for greater accuracy. To allow...

• Heavies to panic mesh, RPG, barricade, or dome when they get stunned
• Mediums to deploy jump pad or zipline while stunned, or use defib
  ... is all bonkers, and it completely kills the Stun Gun's combat capabilities.

[unkempt whale]

Anyone else consistently having games start with missing teammates?

[pine kernel]

when you join with 2 people in a private match you both get put on the same team

[white socket]

Is the feature of buying a single item from a bundle going to be for all of the bundles? If so, it appears to be not working on any bundle besides the newest one

[bitter aspen]

fcar nerf? more like fcar buff

aim for the head as you always should of been doing from the get go

the famas on the other hand shreds the akm

[boreal sentinel]

New game mode idea: VIP Escort, 5vs5
Description: Players must escort another player (VIP) to either one of 2 designated point. At the point there will be an old computer only the VIP can access. Download the data from the old computer and escort the VIP to an extraction point to win the match.
Rules: A team will lose the match if the VIP dies. No revives for the VIP. Other teammates can be revived. VIP must stay within the radius of the old computer as it downloads the data automatically. All teammates can be healed/autoheal. A VIP will have extra armor only for himself.
(Best of 3 rounds, team switches sides after a round)

[dusk yoke]

Stun gun nerfs are really poorly thought out.
I get it, it's a punisher mechanic, so it's not fun for bad players as it highlights how badly they're playing, but right now the Light has under 50% of the health of Heavy and same DPS roughly.
Slowing move speed alone is not enough.
I'd suggest if you really want them to Aim back at you and use gadgets still, you should make the stun gun increase damage taken by 2x/3x so that light class can still effectively ambush, stun and kill a target that is positioned badly whilst giving the "prey" more chances of outplaying them back still.

You should be punished by a roaming light if you are isolated, change my mind.

[queen cloud]

Nah. It's a nerf. Akm better now

[cobalt lava]

the patch... its peak........

[hybrid cliff]

why on earth was the barricade made taller, thats so stupid. It's useless now.

[hollow valve]

I want to see 5 cloak lights with LH1 camping in every corner every floor every angle of the building with distance and decimate anyone who dares to step out of the building then go back to cloak again to create a feeling of horror which feels exactly like the predator in the new game mode. (I have already tried haha)
Another very cool ability but not thought through.

PS We need light predator skin lol

[sour parrot]

light has low hp so its pretty easy to counter

[rough herald]

its not a buff nor a nerf, it just transfer its power form Damage per bullet to Damage per mag

@queen cloud tf you mean? its still batter then akm just a lil less
@hybrid cliff one lil nerf and its useless now? headglishing is op in genaral so it make sense they remove it
@lilac mango yeah i agree light should not even be in the game it just op (joke)

[rapid dove]

barricade is op deserved nerf, headglitch as nothing to do in this game

[sonic sequoia]

PLEAASSEEE REVERT HEALTHBARS

[reef jasper]

Light is already the weakest in ranked, please reconsider the changes made today , or revert 33% usage on cloak to even it out,

stun gun is entirely useless now

light is hated on in ranked and is hard enough to LFG... it needs love not nerfs

[regal sand]

Why does leaving terminal attack reset the party? I got suspended because I hopped into a game without realizing that.

[stray rampart]

Right btw

[novel eagle]

That would require licencing
So nah

[river hill]

can you ping the "bomb"? If not, then we should

[tender mango]

I'm not understanding why we don't have progress bar showing how close we are to ranking up our down in Ranked.

[warm hazel]

True. Light class is now even more completely useless than it already was.
Good job Embark!

[cerulean stag]

The stun gun nerf makes perfect sense. A light getting free reign to punish ANYONE with no counter because they're caught off guard completely goes against the teamwork they want the game modes to revolve around. Lights are already poking and prodding without much caution because they have a crazy kit. Light feels like it's in a decent spot besides needing a little bit more of a nerf to the invis and fixing the hitbox issue with the ankle biter lights.

Most lights just don't get their role on the team that's why they think the nerfs are too much. You play a high dps support, stop acting like you're the main character that needs to roam and be invincible in 1v1s.

Headglitching on the barricade tho???? lmao there was NOTHING stopping you from aiming at their head and winning that scenario if you can aim well enough to deserve it. It being at the height it is now makes it's only purpose giving a target for people to bank nades into

[dusty river]

wtf is on with the balancing team? Light was already struggeling against heavy burst damage and the medium supremacy and now you nerf stun gun into the ground and further punish people for using cloak when i was already getting nailed by most people with working eyes. Also why no compensation buffs? +4m on a useless tool won't make a difference. Meanwhile literally every heavy runs rpg that makes fights against lights trivial. Just accept that the 100hp gaps makes the game impossible to balance and change it! anyway i'm switching to medium main if i stay with the game at all.

[tribal vortex]

Just here to say that it’s epic they finally nerfed the stun gun

[wispy ivy]

honestly with the stungun rework i feel like they did the complete opposite of helping melee players

edit: forgor slow mode, the range buff and slow being the same makes it even worse when youre being beamed down, gadgets help i guess but unless youre running shields (which you prob should lmao) they arent super helpful

[fluid raptor]

Lessen the cloak nerfs from begore a little. Activation cost is really high and with ligjt alrrady being the worst class + the further stun and cloak nerfs (which are fine), the acivation cost is just too high. And PLEASE JUST BUFF FAMAS, 93R, GRAPPLE, ETC. ALREADY

[wanton spear]

Structural damage with arena carriables contract still bugged 👹

[vivid grove]

"Finally, for the first time ever, the new outfit added to the store will allow you to purchase individual items from the bundle as well as the entire bundle all at once" NAH BUT THEY DID IT? EMBARK GOATS HOLY, MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN HEARD

[tidal wave]

need a sumo skin for my heavy charge slam

[random scarab]

I mean now when you get stunned as melee you have a chance to win
Before the only way to win if you got stunned was if the light was the smartest The Finals player and stood next to you (it happened a lot).
I usually forget to stun people anyway as it's pretty cringe and honestly doesn't help that much, a half decent player will just shoot you anyway so it only protects against RPGs and the like.
I would rather it stop gadgets but not specialisations.
At least the boosted as all hell invis got nerfed again, use dash if you posses actual skill

[plain bolt]

3 round ranked is weird

[woeful arch]

My Light gurl got a new animation for that sword. I'm digging it.

[hybrid cliff]

it was very easy to shoot people in the head behind a barricade. There was no head glitch.

[rough herald]

nerf the weakest class some more embark
i love it when my fav class the weakest class get nerf
the stun change is so good i want to hug you embark
the stun change IS SO GOOD That i want to dig my own grave
can you nerf light class a bit more i love it when that happen
also you didn't nerf heavy
heavy have more then duble the hp of light AND as much dps as light
game good
game nice
very nice

@arctic relic dude you don't understand how many part of light is lacking, it need a small buff in every thing and nerf heavy a bit to be balance

[olive fulcrum]

Man, people have some WACK opinions out here

[fickle linden]

Let's leave this channel for constructive feedback, and take arguing out

-feedback

[spiral light]

Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

[fast kettle]

longer range stun is probably going to make it slightly harder to deal with flamethrower. I was winning 50/50 fights before

most lights stay in range, though

really happy for Seoul Power Shift and the Sledge aim assist changes!

[arctic relic]

I agree with light mains being a bit angry about the changes, but the stun gun was too OP since the start. I think that they can easily fix the 'light' class problem by improving the rate of hp regen for lights. That way they can go in and out at an higher frequency.

[sturdy hound]

the light's kinfe has been killed

[tiny storm]

u mean buff? embark only nerfs!

heres a suggestion: dont give cheaters a second chance. thats like letting a serial killer out on bond hoping he wont k!ll again..bad idea. if you are caught cheating, on any level, perm band right away.

[sonic sequoia]

Please please please Embark I will never ask anything of you all again if you could PLEAAASSEEEEE revert the hud healthbars (team and opponents) to the larger, wider version. the new one is too small and hard to see, making it near impossible to accurately identify player and enemy health at a glance. please embark

[bold bone]

Im very proud of you embark for nerding the stun gun and invis. Those were light's crutches.

The problem is you didnt shift any of their power to OTHER parts of the kit. This is like if you took light's crutches, and just let them fucking crumple to the floor and lie there. Buff their HP, buff their regen, buff grapple buff dash just do SOMETHING to make the class viable now that it doesnt have its class defining tools

[vast pine]

Apart from glitch nades lights don't offer "support" in a way that mediums and heavies just do better

The marginally higher DPS doesn't make being made out of tissue paper seem like a good trade off

[boreal sentinel]

Floppy Disk riot shield skin

[tough merlin]

the glitch nerf is way worse then the stun imo. Stun can still stop cashouts (from what i can tell). it being a impact on shields was SO nice imo.

@real moon oh?! okay miss read huge!

[paper ravine]

So proud of embark for working on such a huge patch while doing sweet FA for hackers. More in the last week than I've ever seen on this game. F your nurfs, sort out your anti cheat

[real moon]

it is still impact, the effect just goes through multiple layers of shield now, like previosuly if you had a dome shield the stuff inside wouldn't be glitched now it is glitched, glitch was buffed

[tame crag]

I don’t think power shift feedback should have been closed

[covert dock]

New mode is sucks

[clever hawk]

1. The barricade change has removed most of its use. You could already crouch behind it if you wanted cover. Headglitching was a little too strong so the solution was to slightly lower the height, not increase it.

2. The frustration of Invis came from its ability to fire without decloaking first and then re-activate instantly to escape. Increasing activation cost & now decreasing camouflage really hurts its effectiveness without addressing the major frustration.

3. The most infuriating aspect of Stun Gun was caused by Invis. If you had to decloak first it wouldn’t be nearly as annoying or cheesy. Increasing the range was totally unnecessary & the movement crippling is still entirely unfun.

[mild magnet]

I would like to see the round score at the end of the new gamemode, not just victory/defeat and then the personal combat scores etc.

[gentle pecan]

Key is glicthed underground please look into this

[cerulean stag]

Lights have a kit that allows them to enter and exit combat quick af providing huge damage for their team if they would work with them. Instead of trying to run around and roleplay as john wick and ezio auditore getting their "skillful "

headglitching was never a thing with the barricade idk if anyone playing this game understands what that means

[proven ibex]

Better post it in terminal feedback channel. It's good one

[timber sage]

only thing i really want now is more maps added to solo bank it in private matches. thanks embark! ^_^

[short oracle]

I don't like how stun gun let ppl hold stuff while stunned (like cash or canister)
and using util is strong aswell, u can stun a heavy just so he can slam u, yey, useful

[normal ferry]

I haven’t played in a bit but find out how to make casual modes actually casual

[hallow orchid]

What was the point of nerfing the fcar

[verbal smelt]

please stop sending the message that we leave the game and it's bad when the game say the game is loose, NO i don't wan't to see the cheater who win in the winning screen a wanna play a new game !

[wispy ivy]

the rest of it i dont really care about but point 3 i fully agree, they did the complete opposite of what they shouldve done imo

what they should have done? reduced range and lowered how much it slows you, couldve kept the disabling of gadgets and ads

[cobalt lava]

it was the most overtuned weapon in the game and desperately needed a nerf??

support class btw that could just facetank a lewis gun alone and beat a heavy in a 1v1 up close

[sick stag]

GREAT FKING GAMEMODE

hope people will actually like it and we can get more players!!!

[south viper]

FCAR didn't need this unnecessary nerf. Good players will always be better than bad players, trying to force them closer to each other by adding more bullets and reducing damage is not the way to go. The gun was absolutely fine where it was. It punished you heavily for missing shots, that was the whole point with the FCAR

[nova mica]

RANKED. PROGRESS. BAR. PLEASE.

NO ONE LIKES THE CURRENT SYSTEM

[edgy wharf]

Tdm fr

[wanton robin]

Ok... the devs are doing great work but I am just SO disappointed by the rank update feedback mechanism. I was waiting for adding back rank progress bar but NO. They didn't even do anything related to fixing the rank feedback. It is utterly vague to me why they are hiding the progress bar?? WHY?

1. It shows you how far are you to getting next rank
2. It encourages you to play when you are closer to next rank
   The arrows are just useless compared to having a progress bar for my rank. Yes I know I got an arrow up or down but what does that mean? How many arrows I need to rank up? How many games I need to win?
   Can a dev please reply. I feel the community entire voice is ignored on this matter with no response from the devs.

[kind stirrup]

please remove light class

[wintry basin]

I guess they just want u to keep playing. Im stuck plat 1 forever. To a point where i won 3 finals in a row + 1 final 2nd place and wouldnt rank up

[lament spruce]

Isn't this the exact reason to nerf it? If good players will always be better, it shouldn't matter about the nerf. Their goal is to grow the player base, not cater to the people already good at it.

[pseudo latch]

Please revert the barricade changes. Let us have one thing

[dusty perch]

this update is one of the best so far...

BESIDES THE FACT THAT YOU NERVED THE STUN BUN FOR NO REASON!!!!

There is nor reason for using it anymore...
just for the case that someone is trying to steal your cashout...

its useles now...
just because there are to many player not good enough to play the game...

skill issue

[iron charm]

Great update. Skins in this game are best I have seen and sound design is awesome. Can't wait to try new game mode later

[modern wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-sad-sad-cat-cat-meme-gif-25617057

[velvet moth]

For no reason? Seriously, no reason... No reason at all. Like no one has complained about it for the past month or more.

[silent cargo]

it's literally in the patch notes

[quick coyote]

nah, most people were complaining they couldn't see cloaked players. decreasing camouflage was the right call for them, but i hope they revert the activation costs now that its even more easier to see

[wind fable]

New mode kinda rubish

[sonic sequoia]

(repost) Please please please Embark I will never ask anything of you all again if you could PLEAAASSEEEEE revert the hud healthbars (team and opponents) to the larger, wider version. the new one is too small and hard to see, making it near impossible to accurately identify player and enemy health at a glance. please embark

[bright zodiac]

I can get behind the stun gun nerf. But please revert the dagger nerf...

[flint badge]

I NEED headshot icons in killfeed

[river plover]

Fix the dagger please it is literally useless
It is impossible to hit backstabs now
It already was the worst weapon in this game and now backstabs arent even a thing anymore.
hundreds of hours wasted

[quick dew]

controversial opinion:

Remove Quick Cash and have Cashout as the main "casual" mode. Quick Cash takes longer then Cashout 50% of the time (cashout has max time of 10 mins, quick cash 20 I think).

• You're getting new players used to the tournament format, so if they do want to try out tournaments they already understand how it works

[sturdy hound]

Reduced the scope of the decision, the dagger can no longer be killed with sprint, which makes the dagger directly lose the possibility of dealing with enemy players

[paper ravine]

This might be the worst finals update yet, along with everything they mentioned in the patch notes I guess made the APS weaker, seriously, wtf?! The only medium defense against skill-less nade launcher spammers. You could have just been adding more maps and balancing but you clearly don't know where to spend your time. Just look at the quick play options, how to confuse the F out of new players...Also how-about you assign more budget to anti cheat rather than just relying on EAC, more cheats than ever. Clueless company with no clear direction. Game can die, I regret spending any cash on it. I'm done.

[clever hawk]

Yea disabling gadgets/interactions is already very useful. Especially capture of the cashout. It being an annoying duelling too sucks.

@quick coyote not seeing them isn’t an issue if they can’t attack you whilst remaining unseen. Not being seen is the entire purpose of Invis and helps Lights not be blown up in an instant at any moment. Having a decloak time and noise as in many games (eg OW Sombra) would have been far better for both those using it and fighting it

[mild magnet]

My teammate just killed me with the MP5? what is going on?

[lusty portal]

Please revert the health bar change, or make it an option for players to change it back to pre update. New health bar is awful

[ornate horizon]

Just played my first ranked game with the new “better” match making. I hit gold 3 earlier today and have never had a diamond in my game and maybe one or two plats. In round 1 my team was 2 gold 1 silver and the other 3 were made up mostly of diamonds and a few plat. Not complaining too much but will be very annoyed if this is a new norm

[timber sage]

OK, so what makes the AKM fun for me? The challenging but still pretty simple recoil pattern in its large magazine with a moderate fire rate and low-ish recoil. The M11's recoil pattern appears much less satisfying to the point where I just simply recoil smooth it over trying to learn it. The FCAR felt fun when it was stronger, and the only reason why I want to use it now is to grind for the level 5 skin - I think the nerf was deserved to some point, but it does leave the FAMAS still largely unused in my experience in pubs. Maybe increase its damage? Make it more viable for the niche that the FCAR once occupied?

I don't know, but I wonder if you can do something to make the FAMAS a viable pick after the AKM and not something players feel regret wasting VRS over. At most, I like how the FAMAS sounds, and how it was pretty strong prior to some patches. Otherwise, the only S2 gun I like using is the 93R, but that's only because I've become bored of using the M11 and XP-54.

Thanks for your consideration, Embark.

[wooden storm]

Please buff light in any way, I don't think we've gotten a buff in months. We're useless in ranked and now stun is absolutely useless except to stop a steal

[jovial viper]

Stun gun nerf was WAY too much, the only thing it does now is keep an enemy from running? Which they aren’t going to want to do anyway as they are actively shooting at you, and being able to use specializations is crazy, you may as well just remove the gadget all-together if you really feel this is fair

[wicked dragon]

is the structural damage bugged again ffs? I broke down buildings with all sort of cannisters and it's still at Zero

[distant moth]

i use heavy for two match and done it easily
i guess hammer and slam works well

[wanton spear]

Structural damage with canisters is still bugged

[magic wing]

Absolutely love the ranked system blog post! Really informative and gives some great insight into how difficult balancing progression with skill can be

[mellow elm]

@wintry crystal or @fiery hill or @tough shadow or someone, great update! Love the stun gun nerf!

But PLEASE

THERE IS NO ADVANTAGE TO DESTROYING APS / MINES / BARRICADES / TURRETS, IF THE COOLDOWN STARTS ON PLACEMENT

What this means is that a defending team can place their defenses, and then by the time the attackers reach the cashout, the timers have cooled down and if an attacker destroys an APS / Mine / Turret / Barricade, the defender can simply replace it immediately.

PLEASE CHANGE THE GAME LOGIC SO THAT THE COOLDOWN STARTS ONCE THE DEFENSIVE GADGET HAS BEEN DESTROYED, THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE WAY IT WORKS IN OVERWATCH AND OTHER FPS GAMES

This change will be far more fair and brings the game in line with other FPS.

ALSO

THE DAMN DAMAGE BUILDINGS WITH ARENA CARRIABLES IS STILL GLITCHED! EITHER PERMANENTLY REMOVE IT FROM CHALLENGE ROTATION OR FIX THE BUG, IT'S BEEN WELL OVER A MONTH WITH THE SAME MISTAKE MADE EVERY WEEK!

[gaunt perch]

Attack & Defend is a HUGE W. This is how I envisioned the game would play when it was first announced. The depth of the gameplay is a million times better than in the other modes. Teamplay is better, strategy and tactics are better, more kits are viable, and, most importantly, you can play around the objective because it always matters, not just in the final 3 seconds before a cashout. This game has desperately needed objectives to matter more, and now they do. Great mode.

[sudden tangle]

Light class gutted, just remove it @pearl kiln

[brittle obsidian]

Crazy how invis keeps getting reworked in the wrong direction, not changing what people hate about it while keeping it irrelevant in high level play, and making it feel horrible to use on top of it all.

[blissful bridge]

revert both cost and visual nerfs to cloak

[daring siren]

Why has no buff come to Light? Its the worse class in the game, you lose in specialization to Mediums and Heavies because they cover the only important things in winning games, and you already lose in gunfights to all of them. You can't ambush most enemies, they're inside with their cashouts, and cloak let you get first shot off at least. All you did was chop the legs off of a class with no arms. Its completely stupid to be depending on ganking enemies to make an entire class usable but still not good. You will still die to the other classes because they're just blatant better.

I get nerfing stun gun and cloak, but all you did was get rid of the only things that made it usable. RPG will now be the bane of Lights again, mediums with defibs can't be stopped anymore. RPG was already incredibly oppressive against Lights, and only the most braindead of people can't land it. It puts them at ONE SHOT TERRITORY WITH AOE. Now there is ZERO COUNTERPLAY TO IT at close ranges aside from not picking Light in the first place.

What have you done? Why do you continue to do this? Can we get any level of communication regarding what you plan for Light? You're just making the game worse. If the AR triple defib medium meta wasn't already here, it is now. There is nothing that can be done now, Light had two gadgets that did anything and they were both hit with insane nerfs. You even got rid of the dagger dash shit, something completely nonmeta and just fun for Lights.

Revert everything you've done to Lights over these past few updates if you have no buffs for them. Holy shit, stop killing a class that has no reason to exist already. Give it a niche that it can excel in the same way medium and heavy can. One where its incredibly hard to kill it in.

You're just asking for this game to be dominated by full medium teams sweating their ass off in CASUAL.

[proud plank]

ITS LIKE THEY HEARD ME AND MY FRIENDS ABOUT PRIVATE MATCHES THANK YOU EMBARK BEST DEVS IN THE GAME RN

[versed dagger]

W update

[neat grotto]

patch notes say that FCAr mag size is now 25, but in-game text says it's 20

[round flame]

This is just raging, useless feedback

[light imp]

a terrible update

[wraith igloo]

There is definitely a long running bug with fire spreading through things that dont catch fire and/or player catching fire for no reason

[quick coyote]

The issue with the new mode is it feels so weird and unneccesary, I mean, Why can't we just have reviving but keep the health limit and no respawn credits. Or something else. But I feel like the new mode just changes too much.

[pseudo latch]

Revert the Barricade change. Not just because of the loss of headglitching. Bigger shields have become way harder to use because they get stuck on stuff more often. fights will be lost because the wider barricade gets stuck on lips and chair legs.

Theyre also way worse for locking down entrances because theyre too big now. they were plenty good at blocking doors before, but now theyre too big to fit in a lot of hallways and stairwells, and theyre downright worse at blocking double doors, its so much harder to place them in a way that keeps people from slipping in or shooting through the cracks.

[keen lily]

revert the health bar change!!!

[sour finch]

+1

[zealous bone]

W update!!!! Just saying. Embark ROCKS!!!

[nimble flame]

FIX THE CONTRACT QUESTS!!! THEY WERE PERFECT THIS MORNING WHY HAVE THEY CHANGED AND WHY DONT THEY WORK

[glacial sierra]

have they changed contracts again? i'm stuck with stealing 15 stupid cashouts cause i did it once : (

[velvet spire]

This update feels kinda tone deaf. Heavy will always be the best class in the game cuz embark loves fat bitches??? Meta is still H/M/H since day 1

[woeful arch]

We like the new outfit's option to buy just the emote. We did buy it. It's a good one. 🎶

[wicked tiger]

Please make all bundles have the ability to purchase items individually

[plucky badger]

Honestly aps turrets should be disabled for a brief moment if they eat a glitch grenade. Would be cool since they game already has interactions with certain things countering each other

[bronze cave]

not liking the fcar update

[zenith scarab]

I haven't checked the changes in-game yet but they seem to be ok?, although I still feel like it's a missed opportunity to make a big change in the meta with a lot of buffs

[hasty oriole]

I love the new game mode

[wind fable]

100% agree with RockandGrohl. Should be the same when picking up a damaged piece of equipment, it shouldn't reset the cooldown. As it is now, you can pick up a damaged turrent and immediatly put down a fresh one.

The new mode is weighted too much towards the defending side. By the time you get to the point as an attacker, there are defences up the wazoo and you are already low in health because you took a hit from a sniper on the way. Needs health regen or heals or something to give the attackers a chance.

As for invis, hardly notice any change. Check out invis in destiny 2 PVP, think that level of visibility would be fairer. When moving, the effect should be significantly reduced

[velvet moth]

Awesome update overall, definitely in the right direction. Embark, give grappling hook some love in future patches, please.

[copper lark]

overall bad patch for high elo, MHH will remain on top. i do like the ranked to 3 rounds instead of 4 though so thats something

[upbeat ore]

I main heavy and every update Light gets nerfed into the ground and Heavy gets better. When I see lights on the other team in ranked OR unranked I feel happy because I know I will be RPG-ing, Charge slamming, explosive mining and M60-ing them into paste

[hazy shore]

anyone else getting 25 min long q's for quick cash?

[echo panther]

Dagger + Dash not working ?!?!?!

[keen hollow]

How do I go about reporting bugs or getting a challenge removed? On two occasions I have completed the deal damage with generate but at the end of the game, it resets to what it was before

[rose surge]

WHY DID YOU NERF CLOAK EVEN HARDER? ARE YOU STUPID EMBARK?

I'm perma deleting this game. Fuck this.

[wise falcon]

Fcar didn't need a nerf the AK needed a buff...

[elfin swallow]

buff light

[unkempt trout]

S

[lusty portal]

The healthbar needs to be reverted or at the very least give each player the option to toggle it in the settings to the old one. The new one is very difficult to see, it didn’t need to be touched.
Barricade is useless now.
FCAR was nerfed into the ground because it was hard for new players to use? What????

[signal basin]

Speaking fact. You just listen unskilled players crying about Light. Light are not allowed to play in ranked. Just delete it if you can't buff the weaknest class in your game

[noble kraken]

“Chopped off the legs of the class with no arms” is the best description of the state of light yet

[atomic drum]

Why don't u buff something instead of nerf something

[river plover]

dagger isnt working at all

[sonic sequoia]

they buffed stuff lmao i think yall r a bit mad

[sudden tangle]

Going to reply to this comment every 30 min.

@pearl kiln you have effectively deleted the Light class. Feel free to fully delete it.

[wanton rose]

Nobody was playing light already and you keep nerfing the class to the ground with each patch. Heavy is completely broken right now and remains untouched yet another patch lmao. What a fucking joke, imagine nerfing light again and again just because casuals cry about it and never even looking at the state of ranked where literally every team is HHM or MMH. Pls remove light while you are at it the class is unplayable already.

[pseudo latch]

This patch was a direct nerf what are you smoking? New barricades get stuck on just about everything, they’re worse for closing off doorways and holes in walls because of it, and it lost its best gimmick, which was being able to peek over it. This patch fucked us so badly.

[weary flower]

Please fix the 100% cpu utilization bug it only happens in the finals and add assists counts as kill

[keen lily]

the arrows are still dumb as fuck
I get that losing in the first round should result in -3 arrows, but losing in a 2nd round while having the top score from my team in both rounds and the best k/d ratio resulting in -2 arrows just doesn't make sense xD
So if I would get to the final and lose I would still get -1 arrow? what logic is this?

[ebon elbow]

Embark, u guys can delete the light class now❤️❤️🙌🙌

[past moat]

@pearl kiln so y’all nerfed the FCAR… AGAIN… without buffing ANY of the other Medium weapons, such as the Revolver or the Famas which both desperately need buffing.

And I am truly SHOCKED that the Heavy class didn’t get ANY nerfs (besides barricade). In high ranked matches Heavy is absolutely dominant and flat out oppressive. The amount of ammo required to deplete multiple dome shields, mesh shields, and 350 hp while being pocket healed is absurd. With the FCAR and Light nerf, Heavy will be even MORE dominant in high ranked lobbies now. How can this be the result of this massive balance patch that you guys have been working on for weeks/months????? I simply just don’t understand

[foggy orbit]

Embark delete cloaking device and vanish bomb, you clearly have no intention to make the specialization/gadget stealthy in anyway, what is the point of being somewhat hard to see when you're loud as fuck, announcing to all the enemies that you're going to be hard to see and from what direction, like why can't we have good stealth mechanics? Why can't cloak lean more towards being stealthy, the reason people picked cloak is because you can be so stupidly aggressive and use it to get in and out from safety with ease. Make it true invis, make it much harder to hear, add a decloak delay before people can shoot so it is more about positioning.

[lean birch]

@pearl kiln please bro, since last update having problems with ranked, the points for some people is just not right, just disranking. We now have to wait one more week to fix it?

[main notch]

juste delete class

[gleaming summit]

ranked is now more fucked with cheater and 3 stacks vs solo, why is it so hard to split soloQ/duo from 3 stacks holy fuck

[west ivy]

still no anticheat, game sucks

[wicked tiger]

Suspended for an hour off the new game mode already because aimbotters.. btw - stop removing my wins because I'm leaving games with hackers. It's an embark problem, not a me problem.

[sage heath]

hey embark i love u, u guys are working so hard dont listen to the haters u guys are doing amazing 😭

[dusty mango]

I can appreciate wanting to make the stun gun less unfun when you're on the receiving end but that was seemingly the main gadget for the class and it was nerfed in every (relevant) regard. I was fully expecting some general Light buff to come with the Stun nerf in order to shift the power from a single gadget over to the entire class... but that buff is missing. At least give the same treatment to Mediums and Heavies by strongly nerfing their "main" gadgets (defib and RPG).
I don't really play Light so this is a buff for me personally but honestly that nerf just seems incredibly not thought out.

I also don't like the cloak nerfs. It felt rewarding to pay attention and be able to shoot a cloaked enemy. Is this aimed to make the game more fun for casuals? Because it might maybe accomplish that (don't know, can't speak for them) but at the cost of making it much worse at higher skill levels. It would be better to find a way that makes it viable and fun (to play with and against) across all skill levels.
Once again, it's a buff to me as a player but I think it's not good for the game overall, at least not without something to compensate for it.

Otherwise I'm quite happy with the patch

[timber hazel]

Same, the patch note you give today really give me the confidence that this game will stick around to the long haul. Thank you so much (though please consider adding more buff instead of nerf) ^^

[tulip dove]

W update, would like to see some love for lights tho

[willow kindle]

nerf lights so hard that they get deleted from a slap, good update

[bleak coral]

WOW biggest W with the fcar changes, I'm gonna play the game again now. ggs

[south viper]

I don't think lowering the skill ceiling of a weapon because bad players suck with it is a good move. The nerf just sucks for everyone, bad players will just have more bullets to miss and good players wont get rewarded for hitting their shots

[untold cypress]

That barricade change was a devastating blow to heavy.

[wicked dragon]

The challenge is "Deal 150K damage using arena carriables", so hammer or slam won't work

[snow panther]

Not only did they not revert the cloak nerf they nerfed it even more along with nerfing light again…. 🤦‍♂️ it was fun while it lasted game is now deleted. Enjoy clinging on to this dying raft. The second xdefiant comes out this game will die fully

[celest cove]

Awesome update

[umbral rampart]

I always love seeing stupid people posting 'dying game/this game is gonna die. No, it isn't. And I can guarantee you no one will miss you when/if you leave lmao
The vast majority will not leave.

[full spruce]

I completed all the tasks in the new mode
But I was not given a skin from CNS

[fiery orbit]

You forgot to change the stats of the FCAR in equipment menu

[lavish dawn]

Is it just me or is that anytime I play the new mode one team is a player short
Or is it meant to be like that?

[plush solstice]

I’m hoping the community will back me up on this, as there’s 0 downside for Embark to do this.

PLEASE release charts of picked classes for ranked, divided by ranks. As well as unranked per game mode. This will show the community so many things and will help to actually solve balancing. Why are we fine with just allowing embark to “balance” things without giving us any real analytical data?

[proud plank]

I think the game is balanced

[rough herald]

very much so as the weakest class got nerf

[pastel tide]

i want old barricades

[high jolt]

This is a bad nerf to the fcar. It’s the only medium automatic weapon that had the chance to beat a heavy in a1v1. Now the heavy just wins regardless of m60 or Lewis based on TTK in a 1v1 against any of he mediums assault weapons. Now you’ve made the strongest class even stronger by removing essentially the only weapon that had a fighting chance challenging the heavy. I’ll be mailing heavy now that it’s cracked out. You guys should have increased the AKM damage to either 20.5 damage per bullet or 21 dpb. Give the famas an extra burst so 30 rounds total, decrease the reload to mimic the akm at 3 seconds instead of 4.2. Then we could’ve respectable assortment of weapons that are viable instead of everyone still just using a shittier and shittier version of the fcar cuz “it’s OP”

[abstract harbor]

Ranked mode is still absolutely atrocious on the range of skill between teams. Getting absolutely WRECKED by full diamond teams over and over again. Opponents are all silver and gold.

[novel mauve]

Alot of people are getting upset at the light nerfs that have been given to light, I think embark should give their reasons as to why the nerfs are given, and why they believe it's right.
Otherwise I think it's time we see our elf character get a buff

[quick coyote]

I’m gonna preface this by saying this game was and still is loads of fun. However, I simply do not agree with the direction it’s going and the pattern I’ve been recognizing with Embark.

Starting in the beta, I immediately gravitated towards the light class, I love the fast movement and playstyle compared to medium and heavy. It felt like you really had to be good to make it effective and I liked that challenge.

That said, this class couldn’t compete from the get-go. Their gadgets are just okay and the health pool is really low, you get melted instantly by almost anything. But what does Embark do? Nerf it. Nerf everything that made that class able to even slightly compete with medium and heavy.

Medium and heavies dominate lobbies, especially in tournaments. Lights are hardly ever used because of how little they bring to the table, and now they’re completely useless. This was my favorite class to play and now it’s completely fried.

And to anyone who’s about to say “Just play a different class” you’re missing the point. I don’t want to. I wanted to play the class I enjoyed playing without seeing it get nerfed every week because the community wouldn’t stop complaining.

So, with all of that being said, between the constant light class nerfs, the dwindling player numbers, and the rampant cheating issue, I’m going to put the finals down for good. It’s really sad to see embarks decisions be so heavily influenced by the most toxic part of the community. Clearly that class didn’t need a nerf, but people cried and whined loud enough so here we are.

Farewell, it was fun.

[upper ruin]

cosmetic presets for characters bro

[silk cloud]

Can we just breakdown the FCAR buff in this patch?

Before the FCAR had 20 bullets doing 25 damage each.
20 x 25 = 500
50% of 500 at range is 250

after the new patch
25 bullets doing 22 damage each
25 x 22 = 550
55% of 550 at range is 302

So the FCAR now does more damage both at close range, and at long range. "These changes hopefully rein in the weapon’s power at higher skill levels" lol sorry what? How?

[foggy ginkgo]

When the game literally listens to only majority of people who’s obvious problem is skill issue is beyond me

[lilac coral]

Please add text chat

[rugged kelp]

It's long overdue now

[rigid lance]

JUST REMOVE LIGHT. This UPDATE has been nothing good to light players. EVERYTHING ELSE WAS GOOD BESIDE THE NERF AND BUFFS. WHY WOULD YOU BUFF THE BARRICADE if it was good already. And NERFING THE STUN GUN EVEN MORE MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. JUST REMOVE LIGHT IF YOU GUYS DONT LIKE IT (Embark devs) JUST STOP REMOVE LIGHT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS DONT WANT PEOPLE TO RUN LIGHT ANYMORE REALLY PATHETIC.

[gusty ice]

revert the god damn barricade immediately, holy god its terrrible

[urban marsh]

Man the barricade is not buffed is a huge nerf for heavy, you can t shoot over it, is just a portable wall 😂😂

[raw sail]

Awesome patch overall, but in my opinion the HP and Names are harder to see or worse above the players now.

[wicked night]

Barricade is basically a nerf bc they can’t head peek over it. It’s pretty balanced now, lights deff got shafted tho the class either needs a complete rework, buffs or just removed from the game atp

[spark shard]

Please if you think barricades are now good, please remove asap, it does not make sense.

[vale monolith]

im really hoping terminal attack becomes a normally available mode, this is an amazing break from the normal format of the finals and i feel its really healthy for the game

[pseudo breach]

Game is completely fucked up now. Played one quick cash for about 2mins, then it disconnected with error "can't download manifest". Tried again. 2nd match didn't even start, getting error TFGE0000

[mild magnet]

I really like the new gamemode.

[cold pilot]

• Fcar is so dead GG
  they nerf dmg to 22 from 25
  But they forgot a gun's DPS = fire rate + damage
  same fire rate but reduces damage
  thats why I always said:** they are very bad to nerf thing**
  plz, just stop to doing that omg

You guys so worst at balance

[dense marlin]

Add outer deadzone to controller settings and deadzone setting needs a fix deadzone is still there even tho turning it down to zero

[sharp violet]

The FCAR is fine and still wins fights against the AK you just can't use it as a crutch anymore lol

[bold mango]

Aps turret got missed once again, it shouldn't be taking this long to figure out it's a problem when every team is running it in powershift and it invalidates multiple weapons. The light changes are gonna upset some people but are still good overall, light just needs some buff or rework. Fcar changes seem good but may need some review later depending on how well players manage the fall off

[quick coyote]

thx u so much for the beautifull 2v3v3v3 matchmaking Embark i like that ! Crazy dev ! ne need cheaters for ruuin games

[keen lily]

oh wow now I was eliminated in 1st round and was the worst in my team but I got only -2 arrows and not -3 hahahaha this game is so repulsive to play, have to wait for a new season

[solemn girder]

The healthbar needs to be reverted, its very bad for visibility

[wanton rose]

They clearly have no idea how to balance a game properly, the game is so fun but so horribly balanced i cant blame people for leaving this game for good

[upbeat inlet]

Complaining about balance in a casual game mode is a little weird imo

[quick coyote]

Ranking system is worse now what the hell, Changing ranked to 3 matches good. But the up down bullshit is worse, you're getting punished hard

[pseudo zealot]

Devs pls make a flamethrower skin where you use a flammable spray can and a lighter

[quick coyote]

Garbage update. I've lost all respect and hope for Embark. IF YOU COULDNT SEE CLOAK BEFORE TODAY, YOU WERE ASS AT THE GAME, HAD A GARBAGE MONITOR, AND BAD SETTINGS.

[clear quest]

Out of 8 teams 2 gain elo while 6 either lose a lot or lose a fair bit. That makes no sense when most lobbies are filled with diamond 2-3-4 players while im plat 1. First round loss takes 2 wins to regain and a 2nd round loss is one win to regain. that is just painful and not fair. on the second round we should atleast gain a little bit of elo or go even.

[pliant moss]

The new healthbar is garbage because it's more tiny and if you want to heal someone its more difficult to see if his health is good or not

[lean birch]

I just dont understand, they want to revive the ranked taking out 1 round, but FIXING THE BUGED POINTS ISNT THE PRIORITY.

[umbral rampart]

I think Embark is doing a good job, and I respect them for not catering to only the highest rank. I think Light probably needs a buff to something else or a complete rework as others have said. But finding that sweet spot is, I imagine, hard. Someone will always be unhappy. That's why I'm leaning more towards a rework at this point.

I also expect them to make more changes and tweaks after some time has passed and they get more feedback from players playing longer than a few hours after the update hit.

[wispy dune]

Could we get more contestant slots. Each of the game modes have been favoring different gadgets and weapons and with only 6 contestant slots it's hard to have prepared contestants for all the game modes.

I think a simple solution is to have a number of contestant slots for each game mode rather than just 6 for all game modes.

[torpid sky]

We need a hotfix for dash dagger ASAP, please revert it to how it was yesterday it's unplayable now( dagger is the reason many ppl downloaded the game and now it's fucked up, most of us now will not play the game until it's fixed)

[cold tiger]

"Fixed an issue where spectators could trigger mines" This is the worst day of my life

[fickle linden]

Reminder to please stay constructive and respectful here

[sudden tangle]

Hey @pearl kiln could we get a statement for the community on what Embark plans on doing with the Light class?

Many of us exclusively play(ed) this game as the Light class. After a lot of nerfs to the class, it's pretty much useless and might as well be removed from the game. Is that what Embark is planning to do?

[sleek flame]

Shoot your gun

[dusty igloo]

Every single change was amazing, except the stun gun. Keep everything the way it is except make it so people can't use specialisations or gadgets, the main benefit was stopping heavies from using their items but now it's almost useless, and I say this as a heavy main

[fickle linden]

Please stop pinging Oscar. Leave feedback in #👂┇game-feedback

[pearl kiln]

There's no need to spam 🙂
We are, obviously, not looking to make any class irrelevant.

[foggy orbit]

With all the nerfs cloak has received, I would rather have the whole specialization reworked into something more stealthy at the cost of how offensive you can be with it, at the moment cloak isn't even good for stealth, like why?!

[brittle obsidian]

The FCAR has even less of an identity now. Went from being the jack of all trades master of all to.... the same thing, now with more margin for error because of the mag size. However, in the short term we should see more AK and FAMAS usage until people realize FCAR is still marginally better at all the things those guns do well at

[warm hazel]

Heavy is literally the most OP and unskilled class in the game. If you're a good Heavy, winning a 1v1 gunfight against a Light should be more than easier if you don't have skill issues.
All those nerfs about Light are mostly because of silver players complaining about having skill issues because they can't play the game properly and Embark is unfortunately listening to them. At my rank (Diamond), if we, Light players, are doing a single mistake, we get instantly punished. Even with no mistake, we can easily get out-gunned by shotguns and LMGs because of our tiny 150hp. Meanwhile, if a Heavy player is doing several mistakes, he will NOT get punished because of his two shields, RPG, 350hp, and so on. Basically, Heavy's shields are like Light's cloaking device. Heavy's RPG is like Light's Stun Gun. Same usage.

The main job of a GOOD DIAMOND Light is to roam close to his team, get some little peeks here and there to catch a lost player who is not with his team, being a "little annoying (but not OP) mosquito and running around the enemy team to deal some damages or even kill one or two players. All of that to break the deadlock. That's how a good Light is meant to be played with good rotations and flanking. Cloaking was helping us to do this roaming, but now it's just impossible.

We could MAYBE kill a lost Heavy player ONLY with the Stun Gun because it would:

• put the RPG aside, so we don't end up having 10hp at the beginning of the fight,
• no shields in any shape of form so we can actually shoot him and deal him damages,
• and no ads to give us a chance of winning and living because with ads, we can just get destroyed with our 150hp.

But now, we can't do that. So the main job of the Light is now gone.
What Embark wants us to do with Light us being really close to our team, like playing behind a mesh shield, but it is REALLY NOT how you should play Light. Being close to a good Heavy player means pushing the enemy, using to your advantage the high DPS a Heavy can provide, and if the enemy's team sees a Light in the frontline team (mostly composed of Heavys and/or Mediums), the Light is just gonna get demolished cuz of his 150hp because at some point in the gunfights, the Heavy's shields will be gone, meaning, no protection for the Light anymore.
Basically, a Light playing really close to his team is a free-kill, and now with the current changes, Light is a free-kill in ANY SITUATIONS POSSIBLE.

In conclusion:

• Light's nerfs are mostly due to skill issues. Casual and low ranks players are making this game not enjoyable and completely unbalanced because they are maining the most OP and unskilled class in the game (Heavy) and they want changes made to their convenience. They are complaining about Light because they don't know how to counter them (it's really simple: OUT-GUN. We only have 150hp.)
• Light's Cloaking Device is like Heavy's Shields. As absurd as it may seem, they are the same. Heavy's Shields are mainly used to tank damages when pushing or moving, just like Light's Cloaking Device is used to avoid taking damages when pushing or moving.
• Light's Stun Gun is like Heavy's RPG. Heavy's RPG is used to take advantage over an enemy in a gunfight to have more chances of killing him. Exactly like Stun Gun which provides you advantage over the enemy so you have more chances of killing him.
• Stop lowering the skill ceiling of the game to please casual players, allow them to improve at the game.
• Start listening to actual good players like Carnifex, Piggyxdd, Balise, Graduating.

I have much more things to say but I'm being nerfed by message length.
Embark Studios team: PLEASE, for the love of God, open your eyes, buff the Light and balance your game!

[snow panther]

The game lost 11k players in one day they went from 25k to 14k in one update when they nerfed light. This game came out in January and has less then uno…. They killed their game and they’re just doubling down. I thought they would realize their mistake and at least try and salvage their light player base. I guess they thought it was too late and are now just trying to keep heavy and medium mains happy cuz that’s pretty much all that’s left. Like cmon I would have taken being able to see cloak better but at least revert the activation cost… Literal proof they are only catering to M and H

[proud eagle]

i dont understand how these cheaters can suspended instead of a perm ban. even a simple toggling of wallhack to excessive aimboting from half a world away is still cheating.

[fair osprey]

I don't like the new health bar. I don't like how thin it is. I can't really explain why I just don't like how thin it is.

[quartz cedar]

👆 👆 👆

Nerfing light over and over will not give any more skill to those players complaining about light.
They will keep complaining, because they are bad.
Stop listening to them, make the game you wanted to make.

[sharp jasper]

I believe there should be weekly polls to see what the community wants.

From there, they take everything they’ve read and heard and adjust based on company views and community views.

Less babies in the chat

[topaz swallow]

Due to how S1 and S2 of ranked was a mess and basically has rewarded players based on play time rather than true skill, i think it would be nice or "fair" if the rewards granted during those seasons could be aquired some other way, either in the next season or through other means requiring a show of skill.

It was utterly impossible for me to reach Diamond in S1 due to not having massive amounts of time to play, and the abundance of cheaters that was more widespread during launch.

Now again during S2 making progress in ranked seems impossibly slow, even getting win streaks sometimes doesnt move you anywhere, as has been complained about many times, It's really frustrating to have to deal with this FOMO when high tier rewards are locked behind a specific season.

I believe something more akin to how OW2 does it, where points can be spent on high tier rewards no matter the Season, this would remove the painful FOMO aswell as reward players for reaching higher ranks by rewarding them with a larger abundance of points/high tier reward currency.

[sturdy thicket]

fishnets skin

[pseudo breach]

Great to see we still have no latency indicator. A standard thing in almost all other multiplayer games...

[foggy python]

Remove Light

[hollow breach]

Can we have an indicator where our team mate died in the new mode

[patent sphinx]

Man spit pure damn facts

[inner coral]

#👂┇game-feedback this patch notes lineup looks INSANE. Thank you 1000000times Embark for listening to us and our concerns.
(please look at a picture of Skate board Trucks and fix ur Skateboard 3d models though, as someone passionate about skateboarding I can't feel good wearing a skateboard cosmetic that looks like it wouldn't function.)
AGAIN. EPIC UPDATE. THANK YOU,

[lusty crane]

Make new Gamemodes permanent and remove them only if no one plays them, also please finally add more slots for our contestants or at least the possibility to save outfits

[lavish dawn]

This happens alot
They need to fix it

[hollow prawn]

Please nerf the fcar again still too strong

[jaunty rivet]

Its not their fault if your teammate leaves a match bro

[unreal fossil]

And this channel is literally gonna be flooded with Lights complaining and announcing that they're leaving the game for good because of the nerfs. 🤷🏻

[gaunt thunder]

Why is ranked still dead if you need only half of the players ☠️

[river plover]

they broke the dagger you cannot backstab with it anymore👍
lovely update I love not being able to use the weapon after spending hundreds of hours trying to get good with it
Look at #1213572237941284864 and #1213759290347753522
after the patch to see how they managed to do it :D

[halcyon orchid]

please new weapons

[untold haven]

good job with fcar

[daring siren]

[rapid stream]

What

[signal basin]

You can just remove the light class now. Nerf the weaknest class. The class who no one wants to play. Show us some stat about ranked,class, their rank, ect... stop listen heavy US player who just cry about light. As a light main I oftenly kill other light even their are invisible or i'm stun.

Poor light class

[wheat bay]

Best new gamemode, hands down tbh

[pine oyster]

My perspective of the patch:

Cloak is pointless

Vanish Bomb is pointless

Stun Gun is still useful, though will get cheesed with barricade

Barricade Heavy is OP

Glitch Grenade will be meta

FCAR new meta for Med

Private Matches will be fun and I'm intrigued to hear people challenge one another in 1 v 1. Huge W for custom matches.

Ranked: Definitely still need to work on SBMM, but this is a w for the rest of the season.

[quick coyote]

a lot of casuals were struggling with stun and cloaked players, some even straight out stopped playing the game because of this. i totally understand embark decision to nerf these.

@brittle obsidian
you still have the headshot criticals + accuracy intact, FCAR is still strong for those who can aim

Anyone in Asia server Ranked is still the same. First game of the season made it to final round with the cheater :). Name dropped him and all my team members reported him. Nothing ever happened and we lost the final round to him. GG

[sleek dawn]

FCAR new meta for Med

lol "new"

[hybrid ginkgo]

Who tf stupid ahh idea was it to make the barricade taller, so now it has the same affect as goo wall but stronger???? Y’all really ruining it for yaself. And this is coming from a medium who usually hates baricades, but u guys took the wrong turn - AGAIN

EDIT: just in general.. your game is dying cuz of 3 main reasons, broken ranked system, hackers and doing stupid shit. Why tf when u know ur losing players cuz of lack of solo play enjoyment too, u create ANOTHER gamemode that almost forces u to need a team? Tf is u guys doing, its literally like trolling at this point.. and AGAIN, this is coming from a guy who has premades all the time. This is basic logic

[sudden dagger]

so like why are we making heavy the class that does the most DPS despite having the most HP instead of leaving the FCAR alone for Medium and buffing the weapons that are horrible (Famas, 93R etc)

[cursive pewter]

Its becoming clear that they are listening to the community a little too much considering all light complaints are usually from reddit (they think in the moment and not game design) so I had an idea. Instead of constantly listening to the community, ONCE a month for a weekly patch they should listen to the community and do a poll of ideas taken from Reddit. And the discord community will decide on it

[olive hazel]

Unpopular opinion: the HP difference between classes should be 75 HP, so it potentially would be easier to adjust damage numbers.

[quick coyote]

bro they don t exist i just play with a fucking Fortnite matchmaking like the matchmaking is not finished its a so dumb matchmaking , irons in all the game are better than this fucking system who start a match before finish to complet a team 3game / ?4

[jolly roost]

Hello
I am one of the people who complained about the Stun Gun + Invisibility multiple times on many different platforms and I'm sure I'm at least 1% the reason why it got nerfed. This combo deserved to be nerfed to the ground, without a doubt, cause it was insanely unfun to play against and the deaths/kills felt completely bullshit. But I'm not stupid. I know 90% of Lights were using both those items, cause otherwise they're almost useless in game. I was hoping the devs are gonna nerf the bullshit, but buff Light in some other areas so they feel better to play as or against, in other words - rework the class. But all we got was making an underpowered class 2 times more underpowered. Is there any talk about giving Light meaningful buffs?

[plush solstice]

Yeah the “O you are just aim hacking and ruining a game for everyone? Here’s a week cooldown. Like wtf? I’ve never seen a company on one side say they are actively working on getting rid of cheating at all costs, and on the other giving a slap on the wrist to hackers and allowing them to continue playing. That’s pathetic. Embark, please ban hackers or embrace them.

[fervent vortex]

Nerf goo gun, flamethrower and hammer shits broken also dagger is so op it’s sad

[drifting gorge]

Skill issue

[woven briar]

Still no mouse and keyboard on console… maybe next patch. 🥺

[river hill]

M and k on console ?

[inland oxide]

The new battle pass tiers need to be retroactive, i no longer have weeklies to finish them with

[craggy jackal]

FUCK YOU embark ! light is now officially dead. GG quitting

[sudden dust]

new UI is shit , old one better than now

[spark shard]

For God's sake! check the matchmaking for solo players, this patch is even worst!

[bright loom]

As a casual player using mainly the hammer with heavy. I appreciate the light nerf. Stun gun changes was a must. Now the game is more enjoyable for myself. Also the barricades, was a good idea. I don't use guns so looking over the top and shooting was not important for me...I was always looking for more cover personally.

[jovial viper]

“We felt that the stun gun is a little too overpowering” proceeds to drastically change every single aspect of the stun affect. Not a proportionate response to how you apparently felt about it

[dusty igloo]

I am a hammer heavy who has reached diamond, the stun gun changes should not have allowed the ability to use gadgets, heavies have so many tools at their disposale that it simply makes it unfair for lights

[swift pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

FCAR nerfs, invis nerfs, and stun gun nerfs in the same patch? Looks like the unskilled players are already coping but thank god embark!!

[brittle obsidian]

I never said the FCAR isn't strong. It's still best in slot for medium. What I am saying is the weapon is incredibly boring and lacks any real personality other than number go up, other number go down. The red dot is cool sure, but it's still just a CoD slop assault rifle at the end of the day.

I really hope embark just guts the thing, and give it some extra utility like an underbarrel grenade launcher or thermal sight.

[kind light]

seems like Embark does not care about their title ranked mode. They care how to balance the game for casuals that play few matches before going to bed while high ranked is totally unbalanced but they nerf the most valuable class even more. Very unique and interesting game going straight forward to a simple FPS shooter by nerfing everything. Sad to see this

[warm hazel]

Yep that is very unfortunate but not a single game studios has been good for balancing their games, Embark is not gonna be the exception. At this point I lost every hope possible but hey! who knows! 😂

[runic sun]

Too many people complaining about losing 1v1s to a certain class in a TEAM GAME. There are support classes and combat classes. Stop playing like it’s COD and stop whining

[glossy scaffold]

sword nerf please

[dreamy sedge]

I can tell you right now no one is playing terminal after they complete their event contracts. That bloody game mode is absolutely shite.

[drowsy stump]

Typical rebuttal that everyone gives. They listen to the community. So you are saying that more than a significant amount are bad at this game? I mean calm down John wick the light is op if you don’t want to admit that’s fine. To the people below, player drop off is typical with all new games. It’s not as a big of deal as everyone whom is claiming their game is failing thinks it is. The only thing they are doing is nerfing your little over powered light class. Same as the nerfs on any class. They didn’t kick the lights while they are down if anything. They made a game mode for lights. They made a search and destroy game mode. Go shoot people in the back in there.

[storm salmon]

Another ass patch kicking the turbo nerfed light class while already laying on the ground. I swear you purposely kill your own game to get unemployment benefits after being laid off or so 😂

@umbral rampart shit take and the main reason the game got insanely low player counts. Listen to low end players all the time crying for nerfs. By now they have patched out almost every unique aspect of their game. Fkn Fortnite feels more unique than Finals at this point.

[patent sphinx]

Wise man once said:
When low tier players start talk about balance, common sense is silent

[glacial sierra]

man this challenge is awful 😐

[deft valve]

At this point better remove bank it...5 mins in and still waiting for lobby 🤦‍♂️

[reef jasper]

To have a heavy blast me with an RPG after using a stun… put up shield too.. absolutely ruining the weakest class in the game

[umbral rampart]

In regards to your "Listening to actual good players", they should absolutely NOT listen to just "good" players.
Not everyone plays this game to play super competitively. There are people who play to have fun.
And sure, you can say 'well I have fun by being competitive!'. But not everyone does.

You can take a look at how Overwatch used to be- it was original, fun, and you could do all sorts of crazy things.
Then they started going into esports, and listening to only the "pros". The game became less and less fun because everything was so constrained and made to fit a mold.
A mold that every other FPS has.

So you, and people like you, who can't change, or adapt to that really should just move on. This game wasn't made for you, and there are plenty of other games like what you want.

[foggy ginkgo]

No point in running stun atp if the enemy basically can use they’re whole kit. Of they couldn’t kill a light while stunned it was skill issue that simple. And @umbral rampart then they shouldn’t have tried to make a competitive game if you want to be a competitive game, you have to listen to its competitive players that simple

[sudden dagger]

obviously, having abilities in a mode like that where everyone is at base HP is ridiculous, on top of current weapons doing as much damage as they do

[frail prawn]

I understand the decision to nerf invi cloak and vanish bomb... but...

Why is just a nerf and not a proper rework??? invi is annoying because it gets used by super aggressive playstyle, I get it, its annoying and it needed a change, but you could have done it in a way that were more stealth focused, like reducing the sound or giving it more invisibility but giving it delay between uses or between decloak, make it a stealth tool isntead of an attack tool, there are tons of ways to do this

[rocky violet]

I'm really glad they finally opened up reports in discord, so many cheaters on daimond ranks that I spammed the moderators mail

[hearty bough]

Friends list needs MAJOR improvements, unless you add people on discord, you’re totally at the mercy of just happening to be in the lobby at the same time as a friend you want to play with it

[quick coyote]

Done. Literally CM and everyone telling me to Video report while I am mid game with the same cheater the second time. Any asian players. turn back around. I am Plat 1 / Diamond 4 max, in Asia server I can promise you there are cheaters every single round. I have over 30 screenshots and 15 usernames. Thank, Flowery, DY, Huang, Douyin. 🙂 I want to love this game and I know they're trying their best but I'm also trying to name call who is the hacker with screenshots. Nothing More I can do. Server is full of cheaters still

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90
• Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)
• Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)

ALLOW MELEE WEAPONS TO KEEP SPRITING WHEN ATTACKING:

• This would help them to compete

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[thick sorrel]

gadget use while stunned was too much in my opinion. Activation cost could be 25% instead of 33%. Light got nerf hard again with no real buffs...

[gentle pecan]

Can this be fixed?

[somber axle]

anyone have a bug that didnt claim the terminal attack circuit reward?

[pine raft]

Nice that you removed the first round of ranked tournament for now, a good change but demolishing any chance to play light and have fun wasn't that good. Also fuck sniper.

[wintry oyster]

Simple Quality of Life improvement (HUD):

Please change the color of the HUD/UI (Whatever) from the death screen to the color of the team that actually killed you.
This looks better then just using purple (which btw IS an enemy team color)

[hazy shore]

role q, plain and simple 👌

[drifting gorge]

What do you not like about it? What was good about the old one?

[chrome merlin]

Why did you kill the dagger ? Was it nessesary to remove the only mechanic that made it barely usable ? Fix the dagger

[wicked tiger]

Lost another win because I had to leave because of a cheater.

[slender hazel]

tone down SBMM this is stupidly sweaty I can't have fun. only stressing

[smoky phoenix]

New gamemode wins don't count towards the pro circuit contract to win 10 rounds?

[spark shard]

"Improved matchmaking to closer matchmake player within their league rank" --> https://i.imgur.com/GLWS1ex.jpeg KEKW

[marsh crypt]

In Season 2, players were placed below their actual skill rating at the start of the season, in most cases. As they played they would progress through the ranks, but would plateau once they hit their actual skill rating, causing their skill and league ratings to be in sync at that point.
so basically it will put you against better players to keep you at your skill level?

[crystal mantle]

The Finals is THE BEST when it comes to listening to it's players. I know that I asked for custom matches to be updated weeks ago and they did so. Thank you

[bronze cave]

nah dude wtf is this update my fcar is mid now and I have to make it to the finals every time in plat1 or else I go negative in elo? craziness. I lost first round in plat1 after being decently high in it and it gave me 3 down arrows and instantly deranked me

[wind gulch]

W patch. Thank you for being real about the rank changes, too many people think they should just keep goin up over time without actually working to improve. Big fan of having some room for counterplay on stun & no longer needing to train barricade headshots.

[keen lily]

can I please be demoted to bronze so maybe I can enjoy ranked again

[fervent vortex]

Just win bruh, I’m d1 and I haven’t touched ranked since week 1

[kind light]

Every part of todaus nerf of stungun is buffing Heavy against Light while Medium stays the same. Now it is nearly impossible kill heavy with stungun, it is totally useless because heavy has Two specializations and at least Two most popular gadgets to easily prevent light from damaging them.
Devs, what the hell you are thinking about?

[sacred cypress]

Not getting the Gesture and CNS Hoodie reward. Big sad 🥹

[glossy scaffold]

Nerf sword

[mighty cedar]

They need to introduce a class limit to the new gamemode.

[grave orbit]

First round of Terminal Attack and I’m already questioning why there’s 2 different deposit boxes…?

[granite ravine]

A site and B site, just as in every other 5v5 game like Cs2 and valorant

[tall wave]

why do you hate light players embark

[drowsy stump]

Honestly don’t listen to the lights crying about the nerf. The game is awesome and the lights are not as weak as they are making it out to be. I still get stunned in the back I still see invis users too. It’s all about how you use your stuff. They just can’t adapt their play style to the new nerf. Also adding a new game mode that pretty much favors the light who shoots someone in the back. I mean you get one life. Lights should be loving this game mode because of their high damage. If all the lights who cry about how they are nerfed are so good then why not play the new game mode and be happy? Oh wait because it’s a skill issue right? That’s all I’m hearing when it comes to dealing with lights is oh it’s a skill issue get better. Well take your nerf and get better. Everything is op when used properly. Lights are just mad at the current state of their op class. I’m happy with the new update all in all. Little bugs and dents to get out but it’s a work in progress.

[signal basin]

Please, show us the stats of ranked. Class played, w/r by class, rank by class, k/d by class... Anything to show us than light deserved all this nerf and not medium and heavy. This is fking non-sense

[green coral]

The nerfs to the stun gun make it completely useless now. In what reality does a stun gun allow a person to move around, aim, crouch, and use specializations and gadgets. Calling it a "stun" gun no longer makes sense. It should be renamed to something else.

[wise siren]

SAME, the new health bar is awful. it's super thin but longer? just feels and looks weird

[hasty citrus]

yall are happy now? light is dead since taser is now a troll pick.

[rotund skiff]

Any changes to ranked matchmaking? As a gold player, I have seen far too many plats + diamonds regularly in my ranked games that it makes it so hard to rank up.

[plucky cypress]

IKR stunning the heavy = insta 180 place barricade

Playing light feel so miserable after invis nerfs. Playing against lights feels so unfair now that i see them even further and beam them earlier.
Light needs massive buffs to compensate else it's just a big L running around

[hard badger]

I agree, I played light today 3 rounds in new gamemode and its totally fine. Light guns are still op and if you are cautious enough you can still win gunfights.

Also game devs thank you for the amazing work in the todays patch notes you did! I like it alot and the game is still fun. I think people are overreacting on changes because mostly we dont like changes, especially nerfs... Hence I am not good at the news gamemode but I dont complain that much because I can still win in other gamemodes.

[plain rivet]

hey anyone else not get the gesture and hoodie after completing the event circuit challenges?

[quick coyote]

I love this discussion on stun guns being bad now. I run light and have never touched the thing, doing just fine without it. Though I saw in patch that you could buy singular items out of bundles and that doesnt seem to be working.

[hollow breach]

Glitch grenade should bypass APs turret. A well coordinated team makes sure the APS turret won't get shut down.. You'd say shoot the aps turret but the enemy team will shoot you and you are trading your health for a turret that gets replaced 2 seconds later again. Also this game needs internal cooldown ASAP it would fix so many issues

[vestal coral]

but did you also get to a certain point in ranked and the game starts to lag? Everything goes jerky and sometimes crashes and in any case I'm forced to restart the game.

[fringe adder]

new mode sucks, they can't do event game modes that are acctualy fun and worth playing

[umbral rampart]

See this is what gets me. The unwillingness to adapt. To find a different way to play the same class. It's as if they think you can only play it one way, or that it should only be played one way.

Like Light could absolutely get a buff in a better way. A way that makes both sides happy. But this complaining from the vocal side is just coming across as children whining with no real constructive criticism. And threats of leaving. Lmao.

[hearty bough]

Light is weak, but cloak is simply anti-fun to deal with, just like recon senses was, and needs to be changed. That said, light definitely needs major buffs elsewhere - maybe slightly more HP, maybe a faster HP regen timer, or simply buffs to dash and grapple cooldowns

[verbal smelt]

health bar are too thin make them bigger pls

[wicked tiger]

Another game left due to a hacker another win lost off my stats.

[subtle oak]

Prepare the tombstone for light class, cloaking nerf, stun gun nerf…
Next up xp-54 damage nerf?

[spark shard]

patches note:

"Improved matchmaking to closer matchmake player within their league rank"

And the reality: https://i.imgur.com/GLWS1ex.jpg

So, matchmaking is still broken and insane.

[woven swallow]

I think the issue is that Light players already have a hard time being matched against a singular Heavy. It's essentially suicide if your team is lagging behind you (and they will) when any Heavy player sees you.

[stoic marten]

Mfw 😨😱 the recoil pattern for the FCAR 🔫 gets changed for the 💯th time 🤡🤪😝

[ember maple]

The new mode is a joke. Snipers paradise. Having to traverse the entire map and not be able to heal their damage is absurd. It's also impossible to find someone if they decide to hide for the entire round to grief which makes it a boring 1-2 minutes of just waiting around

[stuck trench]

Ok I've accepted this game isn't aimed at me.

I stuck around in season 1 bc I saw this game had so much potential.

But after seeing that the devs purely balance around only casuals that want everything nerfed to fix their skill issue I think I'm just done.

So long Embark. Good luck with your game.

[unreal fossil]

Then don't play solo, rushing far ahead of your team. Stick around them at all times. Easy fix.

[radiant night]

Fix the rank system

[swift pulsar]

God the anger and cope over fcar and stun gun nerfs is wild. I'm so here for it 🍿

[brave copper]

Really, they only cater to medium. Heavy just had a better starting point thay light and that's why it seems like heavy gets better treaent. But most patches nerf the heavy and light classes while keeping mediums the same or slightly buffing them.

Maybe it's just me but it seems like the one class (that has always been on top) is constantly being upheld over the other options.

[obtuse wedge]

Pls fix the heal beam bug asap (the update is 🔥 many thx, devs )

[misty jasper]

Solid update embark! Especially mine spectator glitch fix 😎😎

[quick coyote]

Please remove snipers from this game FFS. Powershift. Terminal Attack. All your game modes have been shit on thoroughly by the inclusion of a sniper

[sacred cypress]

So far it's just one Bundle that has the possibility to buy certain items. The new one with the yellow tagged leatherjacket. Maybe they just wanna see if players buy only a few items?

[drowsy stump]

It’s amazing to finally see all the people telling me it’s a skill issue dealing with lights. It’s amazing seeing them scream about how un fair it is now. To be fair, I’m fine with seeing a health bar increase for light like one bar if they take away the sniper. But that won’t happen because they have made skins for it so we won’t get that. Blame the lights that abuse the class for the reason you are getting nerfed. To the guy below. FUCK YEA!

[crystal mantle]

Get your crap together lights, you are faster then everyone else smaller then everyone else and have some of THE BEST guns. If y'all just complain about this crap that's your problem not embarks. Honestly just get good instead of crying about it.

[pliant moss]

The fcar ammo is still written with 20 instend of 25 un the equipment menu

[quartz cedar]

How about those crying about lights "get good"?
And if you are so good, then it's not a problem for you if light gets buffed, right? So why are you complaining ?
Or do you need light to get constant nerfs just so you can play the game?

[high ether]

This is just abuse for light players now. Have any of the Devs tried playing light you must be having a laugh if you actually think nerfing stun gun this horribly was needed what did we ever do to this Devs to warrant them to make light so unplayable that the is no longer any chance of anyone ever actually playing light anymore ok earlier I stuned a medium and he 180 swiveled shot 5 times and died and this is before the stun gun got nerfed I didn't even get a quarter of my mag in before I turned into a pile of coins. Good job Devs for nerfing what's fun and enjoyable there is no chance anymore for light . The stun gun was the only thing that stopped light from being absolutely unplayable and now basically destroyed the stun gun so light is now going to be unplayable

[signal basin]

And it's a medium who say shits like this,playing with a fcar and pad. Lol

[foggy python]

Devs, what exactly is your vision for Lights? A social experiment for masochism?

[rotund skiff]

I will definitely test if there's any improvement but honestly being put against people 8-10 ranks above me and rarely ever anyone below me is frustrating. I think they need to redistribute ranks according to active ranked players

[violet rover]

im fine with the most new changes but why only 1 weapon change?? only 1 and again a nerf?!?! where are the buffs for bad weapons where are the meta shifts with weapons why are the finals deffs so blind on both eyes with meta changes??? this should be the biggest patch in the season and only 1 weapon changed

[tawny plover]

HELLO GAME PLEASE ADD NAMGE CHANGE FOR PLAYERS AFTER THE UPDATE THE PLAYER NAMES ARE A LOT SMOLLER AND I CANT SEE ANYTHING IM 55 YEARS OLD

[velvet spire]

/:

[vale acorn]

5v5v5 cash out

[dim sun]

bruh how is light getting another nerf and heals and shields are un touched, the only people asking for light nerfs are noobs. invis was easy enough to see if you arent blind. THE BEST COMP IS MHH WHY IS LIGHT EVEN BEING TOUCHED

[cobalt lava]

what?? light just got a HUGE buff to glitch nade and the nerf to fcar finally makes it so that lights can comfortably contest mediums. this patch is a huge net positive for light.

@foggy ginkgo spoken like a true silver light

[foggy ginkgo]

@cobalt lava No your delusional 🤣

[torn rune]

Hey, anyone else get the contract for deal 150,000 structural damage to the arena using carriables? Is it still bugged for anyone else, because I can’t get any progress on it

[hard badger]

Please just give us team deathmatch and free for all with low respawn timers, I am sure it will bring a lot new players in
@honest harness you just dont like to adapt to changes. I played 3 matches the new gamemode with light and its totally fine. Do not forget that the weapons of light are very very strong. You just need to be me carefull how you play with light then lets with medium or heavy.
@cobalt lava yeah indeed they forget the nerf of fcar and buff of glitch nade...

[honest harness]

The nerfs are stupid. All of them! There was no need for nerf cloak, stun or fcar. I cannot see any reason at all that your teams wants to play with a light anymore. It was bad before but now light is so(!) useless. I hate it! @hard badger it's not about adopting it about what you can actually provide to your team and as cloak is very very easy to see now and stun became useless, the only thing left for lights is glitch and that's it. Everything else is a nice to have but not helpful for the team

[slow sandal]

mine was 300k, and I finished it

[reef jasper]

Please reconsider the changes made to light

[honest pollen]

make a percentage tracker in ranked instead of the arrows

[willow jewel]

Fcar was the best weapon in the game, 75% of people used it

[lament vortex]

tried the terminal mode for the first time cannot join now cant play that game for 10 min. Thank you embark for your nice game!!!!

[grand wing]

You sound like you’re in denial

[rancid cloud]

Haven’t been running stun gun in my light loadouts for the last few months, I’ve found that I haven’t needed it to be effective at the class.

[cerulean skiff]

agreed

[grave orbit]

Terminal attack should rotate attackers/defenders every round, not every 3

[quick coyote]

allow stun gun to affect specs and accessories

[chilly plinth]

Lamest experience since the new updates, can't even win a single match. Matchmaking seems so OFF since the update, i'm not even doing bad games. Meeting 2 cheaters in 2 different match in a row and getting demoted in those matches... man i don't know, this is just unlucky

[versed dagger]

more neutral toned skii masks and flak jackets so I can be a non ospuze themed T side

[wild yacht]

Whats with these UI changes in the game? Messed up my gameplay

[spark shard]

I have been playing 10 or more ranked tournaments and looks even worst that latest patch. Matchmaking does not make sense. I don´t even think that people you are playing in your team has the proper range (fake?), for instance: https://i.imgur.com/WTz50oM.jpeg platinum and 845 combat, and was trying to cover him all the time.

[austere vector]

WHEN WILL WE GET A TWITCH DROP THAT ISNT A CHARM…. OH THATS RIGHT NEVER

[near lava]

PLZ LEAVE TERMINAL ATTACK IN THE GAME WTF this is A GRAND mode that yall cooked with

[sudden geyser]

Yea we gotta be honest and agree that the FCAR was a nasty gun lol. Gonna test the changes soon

[smoky ibex]

for the future I think those Rewards above 96 should be a OWN small bonus battlepass instead of putting it in the normal one... xD

[muted wasp]

its fun when defending

[brave copper]

Nah you have it twisted. I'm a heavy main, medium after that. I like all three classes but I only play light in certain comps or to counter something specific in powershift.

I'm not screaming and I never said anything was unfair. I see a pattern. And a big chunk of players dropped the the finals on steam after the last patch that nerfed light.

I'm concerned that this medium favoritism is alienating a lot of players and killing the game. And generally I would have preferred to see the bottom tier of weapons (on all classes) brought up rather than repeatedly nerfing the best weapons.

Of course there were some good nerfs along the way like the db needed a nerf. Sometimes it goes too far though, for example, I think the autoshotty was in a good place before the last nerf. The last nerf has heavies using all kinds of stuff now. That's good, but the shotty feels ass now. Would have rather seen slight buffs to some other weapons to achieve this diversity.

[graceful dragon]

Uh I just started the game after the update and got blue screened 😂 I’m sure it’ll be fine after a restart though

[drowsy stump]

It happens an they won’t be missed. It’s ok man just a nerf.

[obsidian crest]

Is it just me or do round modifiers stay up for the rest of the game? Has it always been like that? The words are kinda big and get in the way imo

[spare cape]

Mannn y’all cooked With this update love y’all embark keep doin yo thing ❗️💪🏾 I would love to see haptic trigger support for ps5 and im happy but until then y’all killed it

[rough herald]

APS: Proactivity and fck your projectile problem (Day 18 of asking)
**
Notes:
. to start off, i love the idea of the aps, the ability of being able to defend an area locking down a room is fun
. but its just unfair in some situation all because the "fck your projectile" part of APS.
for a weapon like the GL that shoot projectile you basically lose the fight automatically
. and for powershift its basically mandatory to win (that gamemode need a rework tbh)
. also seens we're talking about powershift, its basically impossible to destroy the aps not only because the wall but also the fact that it can be replace instantly due to no cooldown on destroy
. its also a one and done. meaning once you place it down it just stay there forever
**
Suggestion: what i want to see
. (fck your projectile) either make it so it take damage with each projectile destroy. Or it can only destroy 3 projectile then broke
. and also give it a 3 second activation time like the turret have

**Suggestion: **what i would like to see but ok without
. (One and Done) make it lose hp overtime
. cool down on destroy

[swift pulsar]

crazy that people are complaining that the meta that has been in place for 2 seasons got nerfed tbh.

fuck fcar, easy to use in almost every way. Best scope in the game, barely any recoil, crazy consistent damage, great hipfire.

fuck stun gun, literally turned off everything but primary hip fire

womp womp 🇱

[light imp]

Embark Studio believes that by nerfing gadgets or weapons, they can create a well-balanced version of THE FINALS. It is true that such adjustments help achieve balance, but every nerf potentially causes some players to leave the game because the nerfed weapons and gadgets make it less interesting for them. Remember, during the Open Beta and the Closed Beta, many players were attracted to THE FINALS; at that time, there were so many ways to eliminate an enemy. Don’t get me wrong, some nerfings are beneficial for the game, with the ‘nuke’ being a good example. However, there have been so many nerfings that now THE FINALS relies purely on gunplay. But if I want to win an FPS game that relies on gunplay, why should I only play THE FINALS? There are many other FPS games, such as CoD, APEX Legends, and so on. Moreover, THE FINALS has a bad solo queue experience, and it is so competitive that players will easily feel tired of playing this game

[knotty stag]

Please let us use masks like the Descarte's Demon or glasses with bandanas together.
I guess most players wouldn't care if they clipped a bit into each other.

[cobalt lava]

the amount of light players that dont understand that this patch is a net positive for the class is crazy. honestly feels like they're giving feedback before trying the patch

[steep imp]

Terminal Attack feedback:

• Suggestion: Add few seconds to terminal diffusal time. Terminal diffusal should not be possible for defenders when there is only 10 seconds left.
• Same player appears to spawn with the decryptor every round. Make it truly random.
• Vegas: Decryptor sometimes spawns inside of slot machines, making it impossible to pick up

[tropic egret]

remove sniper from the new mode... why do you keep making it so easy? sniping is not hard and it makes these modes (Just like power shift) not as much fun as they could be

[wintry oyster]

I justed wanted to thank the dev team for fixing ranked. I played 3 Rounds and nobody on the enemy teams was higher or lower then two ranks. I finally managed to rank up because i was not playing against diamond in gold anymore. Don't get me wrong, i dont need to rank up to be happy in this game but it was so frustrating to see that i was only loosing because the enemies were 5 to 7 ranks above me. Just thank you!

[quick coyote]

I think this is a really bad take. First off, as a game dev myself, keeping something overtuned in a game just to keep the percentage of the players who abuse it happy is a bad decision. A balanced game will always feel better, and I mean that without exception, than a game where there is a hyper-dominant meta that has to be played around. Second, the game is not pure gunplay. I promise that you can't show one match where no gadgets or specs were used in a dominant way. Final point: There are still a lot of ways to kill an enemy, the devs just made it so you have to be smarter about how to use them.

[kind iron]

Make it so the slot machines can be used on las vegas (i have a problem)

[charred slate]

Got disconnected cause connection problems and got kicked out the tournament now I can’t play for a 10 min and can’t even reconnect

[vivid grove]

Now is there any chance of making battle passes a permanent unlock? So that you can finish them even after the season is over and whatnot 🙏

[quick coyote]

woaw i lost a game with 15kills , i unrank 2time but when i win a tournament i progress only 1time , gg Embark u are big sucks

[unreal fossil]

Suggestions for the next update:

Light class:

• Quicker health regeneration, favoring hit & run gameplay, it would allow Light players to come back faster after taking damage.

• Move Defibrillator from Medium to Light, both a nerf to Medium and a buff to Light, it would make the latter more useful to the team.

• Revert (or partially revert) Cloaking Device activation cost, but CD cannot be activated for a short duration after receiving damage. This would make stealth gameplay more viable, but would prevent spamming the ability mid-fight.

• Consider making Glitch Grenades disable APS Turrets upon impact, with no AoE effect as a tradeoff.

• Increase Grapple Hook count from 1 to 2, or make the cooldown significantly shorter.

Medium class:

• Make the cooldown on both turrets start whenever they're destroyed, not when they're deployed.

• Nerf GL40

• Rework the FAMAS, while not terribly bad, it hasn't found its place between the AKM and FCAR.

• Nerf the Healing Beam, by making its healing rate lower for the first few seconds of use, and eventually shortening its range slightly.

Heavy class:

• Rework the RPG, by making it deal slightly more damage to all targets except Light class (120 max upon direct impact), with a longer transition time to the main gun to give enemies a better chance of evading after getting hit.

• Increase C4 count from 1 to 2.

• Make the Anti-Gravity Grenade indestructible (like the Dome Shield) and increase its radius.

• Rework the KS23, it felt much more satisfying to use at the start of S2.

• Haven't tried yet, but since Stun Gun doesn't disable specializations anymore according to patch notes, Charge & Slam should be the only exception, as it makes no sense that a Heavy could totally negate being immobilized, making the Stun Gun useless in this scenario.

UI:

• Add more contestant slots and the ability to give them custom names, so that we can create and easily organize loadouts for the different game modes.

[dim sun]

reading the patch notes i was excited for the melee changes but now the dagger is worse. you can still be behind someone and it doesnt count as a back stab. akiba step was removed but also even if you dash behind them mid stab animation it wont count as a back stab. you have to dash before you stab and in that time every pc player will turn around on you. needs more work but i do like the aim assist reduction. now time to change the dagger hitbox

[queen ocean]

"When we catch cheaters, depending on the level of offense, we may provide a 7 day ban or a permanent ban. If the offender is cheating for a second time, the ban will become permanent."

Unacceptable, perma ban only.

[shut cosmos]

Just had connection issues where it got stuck in loading screen trying to play the new game mode. Tried to reconnect? Gave me a connection error. My internet is perfectly fine and this is an ongoing issue with your game exclusively. If you aren’t going to let me reconnect, why am I being banned?
There’s absolutely no reason for the new game mode to fall under the competitive category and cause temporary bans when it isn’t connected to rank in any way.

[proper crescent]

Or better, put them into lobbies with only cheaters forever

[timber mesa]

You mentioned being able to 1v1 each other with the new update letting people join private matches in groups as small as 2. It automatically assigns both of you to the same team. Please add the option to change up the teams however we want!!!

[zinc palm]

i think it would be cool if they just buffed the shit out of the super weak stuff like lights burst pistol just so i can see people playing different stuff:]

[queen cloud]

Maybe git gud? You rarely see people running aps, especially in quick play. Aps range is also very small, so you can shoot at the edge of it's range to break it...

And you should be able to use guns that actually require you to aim instead of just mindlessly spam.
Cl40 is actually a bit too strong already for how easy and dumb it is

[swift shuttle]

can we get the previous main menu intro/idle animations back for the sword and knife, at least as an option? these new ones ain't it 😔

[gleaming summit]

we need another gun nerf why we should shoot, next month we are playing only abilitys and low skill weapons aka cl40 flamethrower.

[civic igloo]

hey, it seems to be bugged currently, apparently it unlocks after completing 14 matches instead of 10.

[boreal mirage]

"First win of the day" task does not count terminal attack as a win

[urban venture]

Please bring back old barricades 😥

[timid steppe]

Please nerf defibs again or llimit it to one per team because tripple chain revive is horrible to play agaainst and just a stale mechanic overall players shouldd be punised by getting killed

[velvet spire]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-toy-story-i-dont-wanna-play-with-you-anymore-dont-wanna-play-no-more-play-gif-26906930

[unique steeple]

Why would you ever nerf baricades, this makes 0 sense we finally had a shift in the meta and now it's back to the c4

[broken lake]

congrats embark.

I didn't think you could make the dagger even worse, but you completely deleted the ONE tech that made it viable after hundreds of hours.

hope you're fucking happy

[slim sun]

creator mode ?

[upbeat ore]

Please revert light nerfs or consider removing light altogether at this point

[tiny sphinx]

give an option to change the text size. i cant see my team mate's names

[hollow mango]

EMBARK YOU HAVE COOKED SO HARD WITH THIS UPDATE EVERY SINGLE CHANGE IS FUCKING AMAZING!!!! MUCH LOVE TO YOUR TEAM!!!!

[glossy bough]

Embark I really like the new UI changes, whoever is the UI/UX guy I love ya

[violet elbow]

its a shame genuinely good UI changes and content updates are overshadowed by things like Invis and Stun gun nerfs, Light already struggled to have a place in high level play and this patch was just the nail in the coffin.

HHM Comps have never been as strong relatively to everything else as they are now, the FCAR nerf has just resulted in all Medium guns being objectively worse than the M60 and Lewis now.

at this point it just seems like the meta will never change and its such a shame

[prime musk]

please add some sort of punishment for early leavers.. cant play every event with half the team

[jovial viper]

Cloak was right where it needed to be before this patch, if not slightly over adjusted. Embark, Please consider reverting this latest change. You’re just removing an entire play style from the game, it’s stupid, and will contribute to the ongoing loss of players. Gadgets and Specs while stunned is also insane. You may as well remove both of them from the game at this point because now they’re both useless

[clever hawk]

Barricade nerf is so baffling I can’t even tell if it was intentional.

Deployable cover to shoot from behind was its primary purpose. Now entirely removed. If the headglitching was an issue just reduce its height slightly.

There are also now fewer locations it can fit and block. Stairs for example. It’s far more finicky.

All of this when Dome Shield still exists blows my mind.

[delicate marlin]

Stun gun sucks now

[quartz cedar]

Revert the changes to dagger, or atleast make it so that it's more consistent / easier to hit dash + backstab combos. This was a fun tech, rarely used, but it was a nice feature of your game. Don't nerf the dagger to be even worse, please.
You are removing too many cool features from your game.

[light imp]

couldnt agree more

[near snow]

make defusing count as stealing towards that one challenge

[versed geyser]

Getting kills with sledgehammer doesn't count towards "deal 10,000 damage to opponents using shotguns or melee weapons" contract

It also seems like "deal 150,000 structural damage to arenas using carriables" isn't tracking either

[candid canopy]

It's all written in English, but it's hard to translate one by one, but all customer centers are written in English. How can a country that doesn't use English know English to use the customer center? This is too much, don't you think?

[cobalt lava]

huge patch for light. finally feels usable in ranked. once the lewis and rpg are properly nerfed i think all the classes will be on the same level. the LH1 is going to have to be nerfed before then though

[brittle obsidian]

true, the nerf to fcar revealed how braindead the lewis is to the general playerbase, and i imagine a lewis nerf would do the same to lh1

[spice lintel]

in new mode assists are not counting correctly check on this

[thin heart]

INSANE update. so many changes i’ve been waiting for, like the enemy audio attenuation, the “group up” thing, and other QOL changes

[red arch]

yes keep nerfing everything till it feels like you're shooting muffins out your gun, sounds like a good idea!

[cold bolt]

Hey Embark, might be worth considering replacing stun gun and invis altogether since it's impossible to satisfy both 1) the group annoyed by what they are as a concept and 2) the people who want lights to be competitively viable for most players at higher ranks and not just outlier players. Game needs to get to a point where the tab menu isn't just MHMHMHHHMMHML and get a more even distribution.

The FCAR nerf is very appreciated for light viability so thanks for that. Glitch change good too, was always confused how it didn't effect through shields before.

Ranked going from 48 to 24 players is disappointing but a given with the declining player population. Post-game ranked progress being arrows instead of a progress bar is very unsatisfying but probably added bc of ranked manipulation? All I can guess, otherwise bad change.

[warped stag]

Please give riot shield the ability to crouch and hold right click at the same time

[mortal anvil]

New ranked system is even worse good job embark🤣👍🏽 come 1st then 3rd still get 2 arrows down🤣 im plat 1 top 10k fighting diamond 1 top 20🤣 fix ur game before u work on nerfs🤡

[ruby brook]

We need to buff Light weapons I love stomping on lobbies with an SA12 as much as anyone but we need to give Lights a fighting chance they had a situation where invis/double barrel or v9s with whatever else was actually usable in high comp but 1.0 and 1.5 came and butchered the class the best weapons both have a slower ttk than almost every heavy option besides the lh1 and your only hitting optimal ttk 100% of the time if your cheating just buff the shotty and v9s to its original state buff the daggers hitbox to be usable and change throwing knives to hitscan or extend the range I just wanna see this game be fun for everyone's playstyle instead of forcing everyone to run the meta just to have a fighting chance also the 3 weapons are just useless there's no point into putting effort into guns that nobody is going to want to use

[rough herald]

its laughable how much gitgud i get just because there few counter play in a match up that is so one sided

[west phoenix]

Is it me or am I lagging so hard all of a sudden?

[smoky basin]

Why SBMM in a ranked system? So stupid

[warm compass]

nerfing the heavy again and again you can strike through the shield and the baarcade now larger you cant even shoot ??????? you didnt stop there you then nerfing lightweight again clocking easy to see stungun now usless you must nerf the range of stun gun not increas it are you fucking dumb embark . this game no fun to me uninstall

[storm siren]

Bro what?? You don’t know what you talking about at all sorry.

[tulip kite]

They should add mouse and keyboard compatibility for consoles

[teal minnow]

W update ,but why only 3 rounds in ranked? 4 rounds was perfect imo

[jagged axle]

can atleast one of the new battlepass skins be free. i beg

[toxic shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/dyingaliengif-spongebob-brain-gif-23315488

[north dew]

I haven't played in a while, but nothing screams "fun" since the launch of the new gadgets. All i see is nerfs after nerf and that doesn't make me want to come back

[amber notch]

yeah I bet you light players are happy that the hardest to play and most easy to kill got nerved again

[gaunt sphinx]

If anybody here is thinking of buying the nama tama charm then DON'T DO IT. I bought it with high hopes of it being a cool reactive charm, sadly 1. when i shot i turns black instead of for example appearing mad 2. when your in fire or gas the animation lasts 3 sec and then just goes back to normal even when im still taking damage 3. the thing for which i waited the most, the plaster on nama tama is broken cuz im 99% sure it should appera when im low and yet it does not. So in conclusion as of right now don't even think of purchasing it. If a dev happens to be read this please do one of 2 thing, aither refound me the multibucks my nickname is co-cat#6322 or update it cuz the concept is honestly amaizing, its just that you just poorly coded it and seent if for people to buy.

[dim sun]

the dagger needs to be hotfixed cuz it is literally unplayable now. it wasnt even good before but now it is unusable. pls fix the hitbox or bring back akiba step or something.

[quick coyote]

I know this won't end arguments and complaining, but please be aware that a large part of the community is actually happy with these changes. Negativity will always be louder and more prominent. I think the light changes are mostly a positive for the class, and a positive for the game overall. While some other changes in the game should (and will) happen, change is done in steps. Please also keep in mind that changes are not always permanent. Sometimes you have to see these things in a live environment to see if its a change you actually want permanently. Screaming at and insulting the devs and game does nothing to help anyone. If you are threatening to quit and uninstall, doing so does a lot more than making empty threats about it. Otherwise we silently mock you cause we know you have no real plans to.

[final haven]

the new ltm should just be the main ranked

[unreal fossil]

Tell me why, I'm all ears.

[pseudo breach]

Guess it's safe to say hit registration won't be fixed?

[proud eagle]

OMG your cheaters are still as many.

[brave copper]

Aren't all the circuits free?/

[sinful lion]

On discord, the TA event has a typo... "CSN" instead of "CNS"

[quick coyote]

MAID OUTFIT!!!

[silver forge]

An indicator when someone's defusing the bomb is kinda crazy. One of the big appeals of SnD is the ninja defuse. Please remove it

Edit for the comment below: Because Embark listens to the constant complaining in this server, and this server is deadset that Light is OP.

[slim prawn]

this update is ass. Why would they nerf struggling light more
played since closed beta 1 and I can say with 100% confidence this was a terrible change

[misty jasper]

completely agree ^ but sadly most ppl will still continue to do so. Its so sad honestly seeing someone threaten devs with an uninstall. They would've left from a future patch anyway, so good riddance imo

[twin basin]

Buff Light

[violet elbow]

ngl I think the update overall is a net W but the new mode is just bad, the fact that there is no natural health regen means guns like the sniper, the KS and the RPG are just incredibly unfun to play against because you will just be oneshot to them at some point if you take chip damage

[broken lake]

the only nerf is a positive for light class, yes.

[cinder ridge]

Yea on paper the update looks good wouldve like to see couple fairly bad weapons get buffs aswell and Lewis get nerf but looks like it’s moving in the right direction.

[cinder gull]

Brothers, dagger mains, WE MUST UNITE AND RISE AGAINST INJUSTICE, AGAINST UNHOLY, AGAINST THE FACT THAT DAGGER WAS CRUELLY KILLED AND RAPEED BY THE CARELESS HAND OF DEVELOPERS, LET THERE BE A REVOLT, LET THERE BE JUSTICE!!!

[gleaming tide]

Add. Text. Chat.

[digital shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-tea-gif-2236132879449776890

[rapid stream]

They added 2 new pages to the battlepass

[versed dagger]

Maid dress bundle 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥

[strange plover]

New update ABSOLUTE W!!!!!

[potent dawn]

Structural damage still bugged?

[frosty wagon]

Light nerf wasn't necessary. The worst class in the game is now even more useless- cloak needs less activation cost, dagger is unusable, stun gun does literally nothing
Also stop nerfing everything and actually buff the weapons no one uses

[thick sorrel]

Cloak & Stun nerf was huge, how about smaller increments instead?

[wary fog]

I’d love to see them add terminal attack to ranked

[swift pulsar]

Worst part about the patch is all the whiners complaining about the fcar and stun nerfs. There are plenty of other options, and the play style isn't dead. It's just moved in line with the other play styles so it's not the same dominant meta we've had for the past 2 seasons.

[sullen raft]

is the healing beam bug ever going to be addressed?

[rough herald]

text cchat

[bright loom]

💯

[jagged axle]

like i dont think light needs a nerf but the stun gun pissed me off so im glad they have nerfed it. and im all for the fcar nerf

[cobalt lava]

Light players complaining about the stun nerfs as if light doesn’t have the best gadgets by far and the fcar nerf didn’t single-handedly make the class usable in ranked. Not to mention the giant glitch buff. This patch was great for light and the class finally feels usable in ranked

[proper crescent]

And add the LH1 m1 garand skin to it as well

[cunning birch]

Add kill cams fr

[floral ibex]

Terminal attack: Please rotate every round instead of every 3 rounds. Please let us change classes between rounds

[red arch]

how are the changes positive for light, it has no util that can help it win fights. its weapons are the only thing it has going for it, stun is like horrible, punishing team misplay seems like something lights should be able to do but now with the 150hp v 250hp+ i've not seen a light win unless the other class being stunned is blind/has their monitor off. cloak is also horrible, way easier to see and you get beamed for even trying to do a sneaky flank. in higher ELO i don't think light is usable

@cobalt lava best gadgets by far? RPG, Dome Shield, Defibs, Pads, APS dont exist right?

[lament talon]

Yes! Also would love to be able to swap char when changing from offense to defense or vice versa

[vast sage]

ahh yes light with all the great utility gadgets and poor mediums and heavys only have defib, jump pad, zipline, aps, Landmines, shields, ands rpgs

one of the only real utility ways you could use stun gun was to stop a heal beam a shield in a team fight or stop a heavy from one shotting you with a rpg😮‍💨

[wicked tiger]

STOP REMOVING MY WINS WHEN I'M LEAVING THE GAME BECAUSE OF HACKERS YOU CAN'T CONTROL.

[steel fossil]

wtf even is this all i see in rank are heavies with lewis and charge

[orchid meteor]

i like the game

[ruby brook]

too many people cried nerf light and med while heavy slips by every patch

[broken musk]

they really are addicted to making new throwing knives skins

[radiant lion]

relord cancel

[green hollow]

TERMINAL ATTACK FEEDBACK : 4 rounds to win is too short in my opinion make it at least 10 rounds // And this mode should be added to ranked

[crystal umbra]

Maybe this In a ranked terminal attack mode

[unreal fossil]

Oh sure, you can't win fights with triple dash that allows you to move around the map like a lightning bolt, cloak/vanishing bombs that make you invisible, portals that allow you and your team to teleport to another location, glitch grenades that negate all specs and gadgets (shields, healing, defib, turrets except APS...) in their AoE for a full 5 seconds, sonar grenades that are a legal AoE wallhack, in combination with all other grenades available to other classes. All of this with XP54/LH1 which are both extremely strong weapons. WeAkEsT cLaSs iN tHe GaMe duuuuh.

You're just stuck to one class, one spec, one gadget and one playstyle, and refuse to adapt to anything else or challenge yourself by trying things differently. I'm talking to you, but also to all Light players who will constantly flood this channel with the same repetitive BS about their class being unplayable.

[static wolf]

nerfing barricade makes no sense. im just gonna stand on a goo canister and look over now lmao

[coarse jewel]

Honestly am not a fan of every time i get an unlock i have to clear notifications from multiple places

[silver forge]

It's takes like this that make me wonder if the people in this server actually play the game.

[marsh crypt]

people should have their rank listed too so then if he is a bronze player, maybe it makes sense from their perspective lol

[quick coyote]

How about making new game mode more playable by capping classes like :
1 Heavy
2 Mediums
2 Lights
so this game mode is more fun and balanced????????

[drifting blaze]

Store only let's you buy individually from one bundle.....

[amber notch]

can we please see all 6 loadouts again before the game, the new layout is really bad and it's harder to change loadout now when you have little time left

[quick coyote]

I'm using this comment to reply, mostly cause I have a 30 minute timer between messages, but so many people with sentements like this. Light isnt supposed to stick in one place and hold down a fight. Y'all want to give light the ability to hold their own in a teamfight when thats not what they do... at all. I watch plenty of top players consistently play light, and do so really, really, well. Light has some solid picks for gadgets. Glitch Grenade is still usable, especially now that it actually activates and hits behind mesh. FCAR nerf allows the light to not get beamed by mediums. Stun gun has a longer range, so even after it's nerfs it can be used in more situations. Gateway allows for some awesome plays if coordinated with the team, as well as being a great way to cross the map if you decide to split from your team, which lights should be allowed to do. Sonar Grenade works great for when you need to rush points. I'm not going to pretend light is the strongest class in the game, because they aren't but y'all act as if light is unusable, which it also isn't. There are issues that can and should be focused on, but this really isn't an issue. If you don't like the changes to light, either change your playstyle to fit something comfortable, or play another class.
Issues with dagger changes are actually being seen by the devs, just look at bug reports. I make no promises that the dagger will be good after it's fixed, but at least its being looked at.

[dim sun]

?? it is still the same dominant meta though. MHH was unchanged

[lunar iron]

This is a dope patch and a step in the right direction both for feature-set and clarity/comunication towards the community. However the one thing that bummed me out was, no APS change. Makes me sad as an MGL32 player. If you don't have good teammates that focus on taking out the APS turret, as an MGL32 you have no immediate viable counter at all against the APS turret. Even with the GL40 you can shoot the edges of the circle to knock it out if you have good aim.

[pseudo latch]

Day 50 should have been a day of celebration.

A marker of my own persistence in this goal.

But the barricade changes have left me wounded and broken.

Day 50. You know why I’m here.

[random scarab]

There should be a separate customisation option for glasses so we can wear them with bandanas and the ski mask

[quartz narwhal]

Why the hell would you nerf light again, the class is useless now even more than before. Stop listening to the reddit and actually balance your game dude wtf

[plush depot]

yeah I been saying this for months this game needs fixed classes especially In ranked , that's the only way to Balance the game , at least give us a Mode with fixed classes so people understand thats the only way

[austere wing]

starting petition to make terminal attack a full non-limited game

[digital shoal]

Request: I would like an emote that is standing with a teacup in his hand, pinky out, bobbing a teabag.

[river plover]

Dash Lets you move moderately faster around the map and doesnt let you win fights/ you still die when an enemy is roaming
Invis from cloak/ vanish is incredibely easy to spot
Medium has better movement utils that have a lot more range
Glitch nades need to actually hit something to disable it so just dodge it, also put down an APS in the middle of all your gadgets to make glitch nade worthless, glitch nade cant even glitch stuff for long enough to capture a point (Oh theres multiple gas mines/ explosive surrounding the point and you want to glitch them? you cant cus they will reactivate and explode before you can even finish the steal)
The range of the sonar grenades are worthless, you can literally just walk out of the range of the sonar before it hits and negate it completely.
A heavy with Lewis gun can outgun a light with LH/XP easily (even more so without stun/ cloak to help us)
The other 2 classes are way easier to play than light and often perform way better. Anyone that does good on light would do better on the other 2 classes.
We are stuck on 1 class because we like playing said class and we dont wanna play classes that 99% of the playerbase is playing. We are already challenging ourselves by playing something differently than 99% of players. The reason why theres so many lights spamming the repetitive BS about our class being unplayable, is because this is the feedback channel, and our feedback to Embark is to make light playable. I invite you to count the amount of light players in platinum or diamond rank. I've had 3 matches back to back to back where the only light I saw the entire tournament was myself.

TL:DR light sucks

[low estuary]

This update is really great, good job !

[misty jasper]

I started playing more and more light (normally a M main). It is definitely the weakest class, BUT it is NOT weak. It is completely viable. People just prefer to use M and H because it they are the “better” class.
Excited to see how the fcar nerf changes light v medium interaction tho

[violet elbow]

Stun gun is somehow even more situational now than it already was before

disallow stunned players from using their abilities again, a heavy should not be able to rpg, and a medium should not be able to revive while stunned.

or just keep the class dead in ranked ig but thats up to you

[rich galleon]

I have ben playing the Terminal Attack last 8 hours and my feedback is the following. While I enjoy the game I don't think it's a good mode to be permanent. It beaks the Finals DNA as the dynamic game ful of drive. The Terminal Attack mode is very passive gameplay that forces your to give up the previous habbits.
Bunny Bash was aligned to the The Finals concept, this one - much less

[slow crescent]

fix ranked pls

[left bluff]

Hear me out:

I think a matchmaking system like what used to be in another fps game that Nexon was also involved in, called Combat Arms could perhaps be implemented. It was a great middle ground for those who want to just get into a game quickly by selecting from some filters & hitting 'quickplay'; but at same time did a great job of making a community out of the game. It allowed players to be able to create lobbies that became a consistent meet up spot daily. Which was great for people to start clans & partake in clan matches, etc. Which even for someone like me who prefers solo stuff; it was easier to shed that anxiety when you could play with individuals you may see regularly.

This could also help curb the annoyance of cheating. Given you can play with lobbies of people you know won't or perhaps could even help moderate by starting a vote to kick.

Was also great for the ability to freely choose the map, mode & customize specific game rules to spice things up further.

[tropic egret]

Maybe add a daily highlight in the main menu. Like a big button (big picture with the mode) that insta queus you for the mode that's being highlighted that day (Make the reward for playing it small like 2x xp for 3 matches) Maybe this will promote the mode to players that otherwise don't click it because they want to play just the main mode

[celest tree]

bundle thing is broken, i bought just the emote but the game took it away :(

[quick coyote]

Hot take but after playing this latest gamemode I think ultimate abilities would improve the finals.

[slim prawn]

no thats a terrible idea go back to valorant/overwatch/anywhere else please and ty

[sinful lion]

Dome shield is not indestructible. Medium is support, not light. Passive effects on each class (referring to quicker health regen on light), while an interesting idea, would add even more complexity to the already complex game. Medium GL is not op. Grapple hook changes would be cool if it worked like titanfall 2 grapple. Medium turret regen on destroy rather than deploy is reasonable. I don't understand what you mean on the RPG. C4 used to be 2 and completely broke the game. KS-23 has been buffed from the beginning of S2. Stun gun not affecting charge n slam would also not make sense just due to the fact that half of the ability is denying enemy's movement. More contestant slots and naming them would be awesome.

[torn steppe]

amazing game . aimbot wallhackers are a major problem.

[rancid cloud]

Please implement official support for the Steam Deck’s gyroscope! The in-game gyro controls don’t work on Steam Deck.

[thick sorrel]

Glitch need at least 2s more duration. It makes absolutely no sense to glitch mined cashouts, when they trigger quicker than you can steal...

[formal herald]

The stun gun change is generally okay but it is an absolutely terrible decision to allow abilities and specs. You just removed so many out plays and interactions like cancelling defibs and not getting stomped by a heavy rpg etc

[reef jasper]

The constant hate toward light and then to be nerfed like this AGAIN… ur gonna lose players like me for life … every class deserves love and light is just hated on to the point of getting nerfed bc people complain so much (mostly bc of skill issues)

[iron charm]

Initial impressions with terminal attack is that there's too much downtime. I don't think we need the slowmo and 15 second interval between every round. Maybe only let us change loadout at half time? it feels disjointed as though every round is it's own separate mini game.

[iron ivy]

i just got kicked for having unallowed software on my system??? i dont have anything on my system
could just reconnect to the game after restarting it, is this because im on Linux?

[vast sage]

it's true the light isn't unplayable and is still alot of fun especially as a noob stomper in casual. but why should it have nerf after nerf when the other classes are just better in the meta, and everything problematic about light can be solved if you play with your team. everything about the stun gun nerf I'm fine with except making it so people can use their gadgets and specializations. if I can get 1 rpg 1 shotted by any heavy then I should be able to to make them put that rpg away and fight me on a still unequal playing field because they still have more than double my health. I just don't understand how people can complain about light when it's one wrong step insta dead to mines. one wrong turn. Insta dead to rpg

[viral cipher]

this argument is really dumb. If light was actually good you'd see it in ranked games and the top players using it, except they dont...

also @frozen solstice why is reactions off for this channel. If somebody leaves good feedback it cant even be upvoted...

[red arch]

I play Medium and Heavy in Ranked and im D3, i play sword dash light in pubs for fun. glitch and xp54 are the only things going for light rn, in high ELO it's not difficult to track a dashing light especially when they're already low HP and panicking. The class isnt unplayable, but it's at such a disadvantage to other classes that don't have glaring weaknesses. StuCk To oNe ClaSs yes, i play all classes so that for sure makes sense. and i don't even main the class that got nerfed.

@quick coyote Y'all want to give light the ability to hold their own in a teamfight when thats not what they do... at all. why would you want a class to be so bad that it cant win any fights. and no not winning 1v3s or 1v2s or whatever? i mean unless there's a substantial skill difference, but otherwise no the util for light shouldn't allow it to 1v3 seamlessly, but atp you can barely win 1v1s against larger classes if you get a stun off, range doesn't matter because they can still ADS and still aim and unfortunately light still has 150HP and will be beamed. the FCAR nerf wasn't even really that much of a nerf, any decent player with good aim would be able to laser, not to mention the guns on heavy classes that while ADSing will beam the sht out of a light.

Stun gun has a longer range, "Longer range", is still like close to maybe medium range and is still within easy to beam for most guns.... the only uses of a stun rn is just denying a steal or making someone slow for what like 5s while still being able to ADS properly. so light can barely win 1v1s on its own, is unable to punish TEAM misplays in a TEAM based game, and you want it to TP and throw sonars. light forced teams to play more cohesive because if you didn't you would get punished by a good light.

Ranked is already a MMH or HHM meta with sometimes LMH and we're shtting on the class even more... good variety!

it's not unusable per se, it's just not good enough to compete vs other classes when they have much more solid/better UTIL and HP advantages. especially in ranked, where most people have optimised monitor settings to easily see lights when invis. These changes make light an undesirable class to play because of how weak it is. oh wow it can teleport but why would i choose that over an APS/Healer/Movement Medium class or a Tank Heavy? there's just no benefit to lights over other classes anymore.

[slender hill]

Am I the only one who cant get the last item of the terminal attack challenges ? Seems to have the 'play 10 games' one glitched, marked as received but nothing in my inventory :d

[remote fox]

Increase light sniper damage by 1 so people stop living on one hp after my frag grenade please

[broken musk]

2.6.0 is amazing Embark, don't listen to the haters!!! Stun Gun needed that fix, playing melee would mean 100% death before

[main knot]

Cronus for example, btw the heavy past round Just kill all the lobby. We Need m&k support on console

[drifting gorge]

Justice for light, you've nerfed them enough

[lyric elm]

"Dev Note: Our data shows us that the FCAR is very strong in the hand of good players but harder to use for newer players"

Finally, some devs with enough backbone to not cater the entire game to tryhards

[rough herald]

THEY PUT A CAP ON HOW FAST I CAN SPAM DASH??????????????? yeah nerf light more embark

[hasty cliff]

dont know if this has been mentioned but the equipment info for fcar needs to be updated for the changed mag size

[kind light]

now i got double-down from a first tournament round playing solo with a gold in a team against plats+diamonds! GREAT WORK GUYS, NO FRUSTRATION, ONLY FUN

[spark stream]

I'm sure this has been mentioned before but is there any chance on adding a team text chat now that there's more strategic gamemodes?

[stuck trench]

Embark exclusively caters to casuals. Tfym "finally not catering to tryhards?"

[unreal fossil]

There's a world of difference between a class not being competitive enough to be picked in ranked, and it being unplayable like most people pretend. So we're pretty much on the same page man.

[pseudo breach]

@warped ferry @main knot I was under the impression that these were blocked by Sony and MS. Guess not 🤷🏻‍♂️

[wide harness]

Stun gun got nerfed too much now it is too weak

[queen cloud]

i'd rather have the fcar like it was before. It promotes good aim/higher skill gap with more damage but just enough bullets to one clip a heavy.

Medium akm/fcar are now worse than lewis/m60+rpg combo dps wise and u have more hp and shields as a heavy...

It should go like this: lowest hp calss = highest dps (light). Tankiest class = lowest dps.
Heavy's dps is way too high, especially since everyone starts fights with rpg and swaps to lewis. tankies class, with more dps than medium and don't even need to reload...

[grizzled canopy]

Day 28 of asking Embark for medieval bundles 😔

[gleaming crown]

Its a shame to see light nerfed again, its super fun to play in casual gamemodes, but in ranked at higher elos its very tricky to get value, and that was before this patch. Its not unplayable by any means, but its so much easier to get value out of M or H. I'm glad that embark are committed to supporting both the competitive and casual playerbases, we're all part of the same community that keeps this game alive! But they need to find a way to cater to both - and this wasn't it.

[worn spade]

MnK support on consoles plssss

[cobalt lava]

Genuinely how do people think this patch was a net negative for light. The fcar nerf alone made the class playable in ranked

[ionic panther]

error code tflaoo29 preventing me from logging in help

[amber notch]

please then play only light for the next 4 weeks and show me all your 1v3 situations and how happy you are being a light player, invisible needs to be buffed again, but the only way to really balance the game or ranked specifically would be fixed classes and I'm happy more people started to realize and have this opinion now. this game can never become big competetevly or a esport if it stays without restrictions like this

[rancid rover]

needs to be a penalty of a 30min ban for leaving games to much. especially in the new game mode and on casual

[river plover]

so the AK is about as hard to fight as fcar pre nerf.
big mag size and fast shots/second is very hard to fight as light

[vast sage]

I don't really use fcar but I don't see just from the patch notes that it was a huge nerf or anything. you got more bullets and range for less damage per bullet

[quick coyote]

what? what do you mean?

[red arch]

the fcar nerf isn’t even a nerf lmao

[eternal zinc]

Not getting any backfill when teammates leave (even in the first minute or two of game)

[cerulean stag]

The concept behind the new mode is great and it has some potential. But the general player base is so stupid and bad at the game that it's not an enjoyable experience at all. It's as simple as they don't understand how to play the search and destroy game type.

Every match is a steam roll, win or lose it's boring af and not satisfying knowing you're getting a coin flip on whether they queued you to the semi competent team or the weenie hut jr squad. Again I think in another life with another set of players it works all day, but I legit don't see myself playing it after the 10 matches for the cosmetics.

Also the AKM absolutely outperforms the fcar now don't listen to these goobers that can't aim, either way I'll have fun but if you want some variation in the gun play for medium instead of ruining it like heavy

[vestal coral]

please improve the stability of the servers I don't know why after a couple of ranked games my ping goes up a lot and there are heavy lags but only when there are firefights, and sometimes crashes. I don't know if it just happens to me or it's a problem for many.

[daring fossil]

I dont use the stun much, but I think the way stun was nerfed is honestly baffling. the obvious way to fix it was to make it full stun people (can't move, can't turn, can't do anything but hipfire) but as soon as they take damage the stun effect ends. This way it would be a fair utility to stop people from engaging, without being used for free/easy kill.

Also, I hate what you did to names and the health bars, and pings.

Footsteps are WAY too fucking loud now, I can't tell where anyone is.

[reef jasper]

Justice for Light, you've nerfed them enough

[visual bronze]

fcar nerf was good but yeah we need some buffs all around

[wintry basin]

Whats the point of doing that to the SCAR? Now the game as 2 pretty identical rifles. The whole idea of the scar was to be hard be rewarding. Now its just a worst version of the ak

[hollow mango]

while it takes getting used to i love the new health bars, really clears up visual clutter

[opaque holly]

New game mode is pretty cool but seeing as it plays totally different from the other mode and different gadgets are relevant in it I would really like to see a couple more slots for load outs. Frantically changing a load out from a different game mode is stressful

[spring lake]

My friend opened the game and he got like an all black swat vaya skin how'd he get it?

[rough herald]

before there is no cool down on how fast i can spam dash but now they put like a 0.2 sec cap on it
(i can only dash once every 0.2 which dosn't sound like alot but in those situation i REALLY Need that mobility to survibe)

[willow jewel]

Stun was miserable for the game

[zinc sandal]

Every new patch feels like it just breaks the game more, can't even play quick cash without it crashing on the loading screen since the latest update. Love this game just wish it actually worked so I could play it.

[peak escarp]

what did they do to the game to make it SO MUCH MORE OPTIMIZED ? this runs sooooooo smooth after that last update. i upped my settings from how good it ran

[lyric elm]

As in too many other game devs do it and ruin their game. Overwatch, Rainbow 6 Siege, and Fortnite come to mind. All these games cater to tryhards so much that casuals get bodied. These devs are based and realize that casuals make up a majority of the gaming market and shouldn't be completely ignored

[finite wagon]

i really don't like the current state of powershift with the current gadget meta

especially now that we lost the ability to have glitch grenades impact explode on shields

[tacit patrol]

Mario Hammer Bro skin for the throwing knives. 🔨 🤔

[drifting gorge]

Removing melee techs from dagger and sledge is a massive L.

Akiba step is no more, making dagger plain ass, and you can't slide while overheading with sledge anymore

I don't even use them, but JUSTICE FOR MELEE

[dense skiff]

You guys ruined the game making medium unplayable. What a joke. Just made Heavy the most overpowered class in the game. Should 've just buffed the rest of the guns. Also the new health bars are ass

[manic prairie]

way better 3 round ranked gg

[nimble mango]

I don't really like the new health bars. I liked them bigger.

[faint dust]

at least should be adjustable in settings

[pliant moss]

The finals should bring the old October 2023 twitch drops back (the cowboy theme).Because the game wasn't officially out yet and I think a lot of us missed that opportunity. 🥺

@supple oasis 😁🤜🤛

[supple oasis]

hmm... it seems that the "structural damages using arena cariables" is bugged... again...
in quick cash for me, idk for other game modes @pliant moss
okay, I will try it! thanks!

[wintry storm]

https://youtu.be/Izjhc-2Y6uU?t=30 i dont think this is a intented mechanic

[sudden tangle]

Revert every balance change since launch and go again. You failed.

[violet elbow]

health bar change, amazing
UI opacity change, amazing
Footstep Change, amazing
New Skins, amazing

and then there is possibly the most disconnected balancing known to man, you have just failed your competitive playerbase at this point, its just disheartening

[slim sun]

Creator mode ? With creating maps?

[crystal umbra]

Id like to thank the community mods and developers for adding the video report system to the discord.

Much appreciated 🚀

[queen cloud]

What competitive? Anyone that enjoys fps games and the way they play. Mechanics/aims, etc has probably stopped playing this game a long time ago.
It only caters to casuals at this point.

I bet they'll nerf medium/light again before they touch lewis/rpg.
Embark brain: "Tackiest class in the game should have the most dps"
"Fcar too strong in good player's hands but bad if you can't aim. Let's add more bullets and reduce dmg"

[normal plaza]

BRO, Video-report for cheating worked SO FAST. I didn't even have time to load a video and Embark|Dusty just looked his ID up and he was permaBanned right before the video was sent xD
I mean, the guy was obviously cheating
Props to Embark team on working against cheaters!!

[broken lake]

wow, I'm a big stupid idiot who can't play the game

EDIT: I dunno, try another class then, if light makes you feel like an idiot.

in all seriousness I'm giving up engaging with this community in any meaningful way, because it is genuinely all shittakes and idiots. (except for like, 2% of you)

The dev team is incompetent and keeps nerfing things way too fucking hard, over and over, and anything light has that is remotely good gets stolen away, and offmeta loadouts are a fucking dream.

This game was created on an ideal of fun creative gameplay, and all the dev team has done since launch is nerf those techs into unrecognizable grey slop.

Nukes could've been adjusted by nerfing C4 damage and initial amount. Now putting stuff on barrels is actively garbage.

Dagger somehow gets worse each patch, I don't even know how that's possible.

People are already crying for sword to get nerfed, and you know what, embark will probably do it.

I have played Destiny 2 for over 1000 hours (regrettably)

They are legitimately balancing their game worse than bungie. At least the stupid D2 metas could be FUN. At least there was genuine BUILDCRAFTING.

Every single patch pushes us closer to "use the meta or don't play" and it fucking sucks. I was hyped for this game, I was hyped for this patch, and somehow embark has let me down on both fronts. Literally the only team I can complement at this point is the cosmetic department, because the cosmetics and animations are great

[unreal fossil]

This is my point of view AFTER playing Light quite extensively.

[normal ferry]

Games are supposed to be fun

[coarse moon]

Embark? sorry? you allright? nerfing cloak again after the feedback? wtf? I'm starting to think that you are unbalancing the game knowingly?

[wind gulch]

afaik glitch still detonates on contact with shields, it's just that the glitch effect AOE blast now travels through shields as well. Instead of burning a glitch nade on deleting just the one shield it hits, you now get the rest of the glitch nade AOE as if it went off normally. Big fan of that.

[cobalt lava]

Patch was great and light is finally getting close to being usable in ranked. After rpg and Lewis gun are nerfed, light will finally be in a great spot

[snow panther]

thats becuase they have offically killed their light main player base. you may have some people who will use light here and there but this update has single handadly killed their game I dont think there is any comin vack from this one

[inner sparrow]

Was mouse and keyboard support added to xbox?

[vestal coral]

all the main lights who felt like pro players crying over the stun gun nerf make me laugh 😂. What are you crying about? It seems there is only one way and one gadget to use the lightweight. I understand that it hurts you not to be able to get easy kills anymore, but now the light will be used by those who are really good. Because I see a lot of people crying because of the lightweight nerf, but in the meantime I still see many very strong lightweights making a lot of kills and making good plays. You didn't understand that the light is rightly difficult to use given its attack power. As I always thought most of the lightweights were junky people with no skills who reveled in broken mechanics. Now I say if they had never put the stun gun the game would have been bad from day one? However, as you like to say, if you have a skill problem, you don't know how to use light, leave it to those who know how to use it.

[naive sundial]

It would be awesome if the new mode becomes permanent : )

[earnest sierra]

ngl the sniper ruins all the fun in any gamemode

[lilac coral]

Make the game mode permanent

[quick ridge]

I'm crashing constantly since the new update 😑 thought this update was going to fix the crash issue but it's just made it worse. Anyone else out there having the same issue?

[brazen swift]

in the new gamemode make the rounds last a bit longer

[lunar vault]

Give people a punishment for leaving the new mode, its full of quitters who are gone after round 1, its no fun to stomp a team because they#re down an extra man

[glad ore]

Having peeker's advantage or initiative shouldn't guarantee a victory on its own. You still gotta execute.

[silver snow]

150,000 damage smooth brain challenge still there? wtf lol

[thick sorrel]

@near cosmos can you buy single items from existing bundles in near future?

[untold haven]

cloaks feels fine where it is but i think the stun nerf was a bit too extreme, either giving the ADS or gadgets/specialization would have worked but both makes it pretty useless in combat unless you’re fighting a melee user

[finite wagon]

you're right. i tested it out in private match. i must have been facing way too many circumstances of aps's eating the nade over my glitch then

[night dune]

sorry to the bro whose cash-out game i just crashed out of. he probably thinks i hate him cause his demat ran out at the worst time

[eager maple]

this game mode should be permament

[atomic drum]

fcar and akm are somewhat homogenized🧐

[willow jewel]

Cloak is bad, that’s kinda of the nature of the ability tho so

[wheat ridge]

hello, new balance in ranked is fucked ? or its just me ?

[vast bear]

rip dagger. no dash backstabs anymore. ruined by fixing it 😦

[slim sun]

Creator mode ??

[crystal umbra]

Don't we think the new game mode would benefit from having a smaller map?

Keep the rounds busy, fast paced, action packed. All the buzz words the people love to hear so much.

Anyways, the new game mode is going to be a great Esports edition.

Anyways, keep adding stuff to the game

[indigo geyser]

Weren’t dash backstabs added in by accident anyways?

[stray basalt]

W update Embark!! The only thing most of us want is for the new gamemode to be permanent!

[royal pumice]

The new game mode is absolutely terrible. Just completed all the challenges and came away not wanting to play another game of it, ever. It needs full balancing just for that game mode as the current setups don't work with Heavy being mega over powered. It's lost everything fun about The Finals, if I want a 5v5 game mode like that I'll play Valorant.

[gritty rampart]

PLEASE add more VAIIYA Encryption skins. The purple Wave Interference skins are good, and the blue Data Breach skins looks much better after this update, but the VAIIYA Encryption skins are the best out of them all. I'd kill to see an AKM, Revolver, 1887, XP-54, Lewis Gun or M60 version.

[strong escarp]

There's a bug with Glitch Grenade where it doesn't disable a Dome Shield if the gadget model is not in line-of-sight of the grenade.

[sweet wadi]

Please make an option to scale the vault and cashout markers

[nocturne dew]

Please maake the cashout and vault markers adjustable in size, with the new update they're just to small for me

[ebon elbow]

Get rid of light now that the class is dead❤️❤️❤️

[queen cloud]

dam. Just went back to game to try the patch. I almost forgot how blurry the game is, even at 1440p. Feels like there's a blur filter over it but I have no upscaling at all.

Also. First game, aimboter...

[mossy marlin]

Make this game quit running like shit on high tier systems. 🙂

[vestal coral]

yes ok whatever you want but it is certainly not the stun gun that makes the lightweight competitive, it needs to be revised, but here I only see cries for the stun gun to me it seems more like the tantrums of children whose toy you have taken away with which they enjoyed.

[vivid siren]

dagger without dash backstabs likes a fool , noting special , nothing batter

[lean birch]

Anyone are loosing points on ranked in the second round?

[wicked night]

Mostly bc the main usage of stun gun (atleast for higher tier players) was to prevent them from using gadgets. It was the best way to secure a kill and stun a medium going for the defib or stunning a medium healbeaming a heavy, or stunning a heavy b4 he can rpg, etc. if stun gun was completely changed to just glitch someone and nothing else, it would still be fine a good gadget, but rn it’s just sub par and not worth using for the reason people can still use gadgets while stunned alone

[short stirrup]

I've been restricted from playing Terminal Attack because i got disconnected. Time on the restriction is 19 days! WAT!?!?!

[rough herald]

not only did you guys nerf light invis you also nerf dash as it can not bee spam anymore, pls get rid of the 0.2-0.5 sec cooldown on dash pls

[vale acorn]

Damn what a weird arbitrary number

[wicked tiger]

Another win taken from my stats and another 2 hour suspension because of hackers in the new mode. Do I have to post this same thing everyday until you remove the Win penalty? I'm leaving because YOU can't control the hackers.

[rugged elm]

Search and destroy is the opposite of a fast paced game mode. Its meant to be played slower. Spawning into a big map at the same time as the attackers with no setup time beforehand allows you to have time to set up before they even get close to the objectives.

[broken lake]

every patch you make light worse.

even when you try to make light better, you somehow make it worse.

please embark, dear fucking god, just buff light

[winter sparrow]

Thus just want us to play triple heavy as a heavy main in mad cuz I use to play light too and they also nerfed dash

[wheat ridge]

-3 second round, new system broken

[coarse moon]

epic xD

[silver snow]

That damage to arena challenge still bugged? No one learns from history?

[rancid cloud]

I have friends that refuse to give the game a shot because it uses AI voices instead of acting real actors. If the voice lines are all audio files anyway and not generated live, why bother with AI voices anyway? Either full send AI voices with live reactionary commentary or just get voice actors that can give a genuine performance to the game please! This middle ground is a disservice to immersion on both fronts.

[night glen]

Guess EMBARK did not learn how to make challenges people actually want to do. I don't like Power Shift, give me stupid weeklies requiring me to play it. Thanks for the annoyance EMBARK

[quick coyote]

Please consider any new game modes in the future to maintain the 3-player team size. For a low TTK game like a tactical shooter 5-player teams make sense, for a high TTK game like the finals 3-player teams make more sense. Especially for the modes where you can revive, that means 1 downed, 1 resser and 1 defender. 2-3 defenders it's less practical to make a play when you down someone.

[hoary timber]

buff light please deadass, its terrible, like yall are talented devs, i love your game just please buff light.

[high ether]

Hey embark I have a great idea for the next patch first take all of lights weapons away and only let them have the sledgehammer but because it's so big the can't carry it and you have to stay still the whole game secondly take all of lights specializations away because the clearly make light way to powerful also make light have 0.5 hp because clearly they are way too powerful and finally make the light hitbox the size of one of the Monaco buildings because we clearly can't let light get too overpowered or just remove light from the game . I hope you consider this in the next patch best of luck guys

[river plover]

woop woop dash nerf, we went from 1 useful spec, 1 kinda useful spec and 1 worthless spec to 3 worthless specs

Meanwhile they other classes have 3 different specs that are all useful

Light has literally nothing going for it
There is 0 reason to pick light, the specs suck, the only kinda useful gadget is glitch which only lasts 5 seconds so it sucks, we get outgunned by every other class, and we have 150 HP so we die when someone looks at us or we take 10 damage, and have to wait in a corner for 10 seconds so our health starts regenning cus we all know a light without max health just dies instantly.

[night bough]

I mean like we NEED bots in private matches, even if they suck it would help content creators a lot, and just let beginners practice and enjoy the game.
And playing alone is awesome in evry shooting game (well-known fact)
Right ?

[neon escarp]

yooo the new mode is really fun

[pseudo breach]

Day 36 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

[vestal coral]

a yes at least for that I agree with you because I was light with the Dash and I was stunned and I was able to escape using the Dash. Yes, at least to disable the gadgets, I agree

[dim sun]

if thats true then why add the dagger. without dash back stabs it is useless. eitherway even if it was by accident the hitbox is so shit anyway you can be directly behind someone and it still not count as a backstab.

[lyric canopy]

first game i load into after the update and it crashes lmaoooo love it

[stark maple]

new mode is comepetitive? then give me rank ups for it. pfffft.

[atomic drum]

I hope we can get a map which have river or something in next season.a little tired of steel and cement buildings everywhere

[jagged cedar]

very excited to see that the already worst weapon on light got another nerf

[queen cloud]

feedback:

• audio changes good
• ui changes bad
• balance still terrible
• game still blurry af
• people still cheating...

[wicked tiger]

I've had steal 10-15 cash outs 2 times in these circuits and got it again this week I'm not doing it again. It bores me to tears having to wait around to steal.

[cold bolt]

tldr of the light discourse just rework the entire class to not revolve around concepts that are inherently annoying to the point it makes ppl (casual and low ranked) call for nerfs despite no real mid-to-high-level competitive viability compared to medium and heavy

[tulip dove]

is there a way to turn off the new in-game ui they added, personally no a fan of it

[tacit patrol]

I think light should have cloak replaced with a new ability. My suggestion is a ninja like wall run ability similar to Black ops 3 + double jump for 10-15 seconds. But I think other abilities could fit the gameplay loop better.

I also wonder if they need more survivability to be viable (+25 health ish) because buffing breakpoints/ TTK could help, but also ruin other people's days.

Another option is to reduce the recoil animation on some guns to make them visually easier to use

[grim cradle]

yeah mine crashed once

[swift gust]

Even though I have mentioned this countless times since day 1 of Season 1, I am gonna repeat it till the devs notice.
Day 1 of requesting Optimization just like it was in Open Beta

[hallow mason]

I think after the cloak nerf last week and this week, i think reverting back to the old activation cost for cloaking device is a good option now, because thats too much with todays nerf tbh

[compact fog]

dagger is dead

[quick coyote]

I’m just gonna post this again for people, I know I’m being ignored cause rage bait and negativity. Threatening the devs, complaining about nerfs with no valid criticisms or concerns, and shouting rude and harmful comments because you see everyone else doing it doesn’t help anyone or anything. The game won’t change just because you think something is under or overpowered. The best option is to submit calm and collected feedback, discuss what could be better, and be overall kind to each other and especially the devs. I have heard some great and valid points today on the nerfs, and I’m sure the devs have as well, but making threats and just saying “ insert weapon/class is unplayable” or “game is dead” floods the feed for those actively trying to talk about the game.

[umbral rampart]

Here here. Sad that it needs to be said.

[hollow prawn]

please more nerfs please!!!!! Some guns still feel like they do some damage!!!!

[lean birch]

Its happening to me since the 2.5.1 update, i opnened a ticket on the website, its so frustating, my friends got diamond playing with me and i got stucked on the plat2 and going down to plat3 again, because just some people having this bug…. Embark, pls fix it soon

[coarse junco]

Fix when you clearly hit someone with a sword and it does no damage please

[rough herald]

Yo nerf the weakest class somr more

[slim sun]

Creator mode ?? With maps

[carmine thistle]

Personally I think a good stungun nerf would’ve been to just give it a monstrous cooldown, but I see you had other plans. I understand that a lot of people viewed it as a free kill, but it isn’t as free as they think in high level play. Idk why you insisted doing that to light meanwhile other classes crutch off the same gadgets too. I don’t see the problem

[jagged moat]

let us assign players to teams in private match

[sand ether]

since new update i cannot sprint
verifying cache didnt help

anyone encountered with such issue before ?

[cobalt lava]

The bad about patch 2.6:

• vanish bomb nerf committal invis on a cooldown was fine tbh

• cloak should have been scheduled for a rework to be more like tf2 invis. If you have to make your invisible special more visible, the way it works is fundamentally flawed.

• new dagger hitreg bugs are insane and have genuinely just killed the weapon

THE GOOD:

• FCAR NERF FINALLY

• Barricade power rebalanced to be more defensive and less focused on headglitching and being annoying

• the glitch buff was perfect and I honestly don’t think the gadget will ever need to be touched again. This is a great spot for it to be in.

• the new ui slaps.

OVERALL

This patch was amazing, the fcar nerf was long overdue and now light can FINALLY contest mediums. The only two things that are preventing light from playing the game are Lewis gun and RPG. I do have faith that these will be nerfed in the future after how good this patch was. Please don’t listen to the people saying light is worse, it really isn’t.

[pliant lion]

Can you try to not start terminal attack with one person missing? I've played 3 rounds until now and every match lacks 1 player, twice on my team and once on the enemy team. With the limited resources you're at an immediate disadvantage when someone there's someone missing

[jade ingot]

Imo, the nerf for cloak was designed to stop people from spamming cloak in firefights but I think it should slightly be reworked like so:

Is invisibility bar full? Cost should only be like 15-20% to activate
Is invisibility far not full? Cost should be 30% to activate

This would prevent spamming while not also taking off way too much for just activating the invis after a while (or at the start of the game)

[lyric elm]

Not sure how unlikely of a change this is but I'd love to see the new Listen in Stereo use the Historical Hi-Fi skin you have equipped should you have one

[delicate notch]

I love the new event gear and the battle pass extension, really lovely to see! Thank you Embark!

[reef jasper]

Cloak nerf is horrendous, stun gun has been rendered useless equipment now…

At high level play you are costing lights a way to stand a chance…

[real estuary]

New gamemode is fun, but we need people to fill in empty spots on a team mid-match. Just had a 3v5 game (queued with 3 from the start)

[low thunder]

They need to add keyboard and mouse support on console, I’ve always used keyboard and mouse on fps games and this game limits my skill because I have to use controller

[calm gate]

Wow i love this game. Melee hits sometimes don't register. Goo on the Platform that only i can see and others don't. Now i took a screenshot and my whole ui just removed itself and i cant even respawn.

[atomic drum]

Add game playback system🤔

[willow leaf]

Light should stand a chance without needing to rely on cheesy abilities.

[kind light]

I got double-down while playing solo ranked with silver-4 in my team against platinums. Very fun gameplay guys! Thanks! It was the lowest player in the lobby. AND YOU DOUBLE DOWN ME!!!!
You say a lot about providing more information to player about ranked algorithm but noone asked about this, we just want a FAIR MMR! You killing all chances to play solo ranked

[daring fossil]

while the FCAR and the stungun needed nerfs, the stun gun nerf is questionable (Embarks reputation at this point is because of their constant questionable balance choices). In the future please STOP nerfing shit and taking the fun out of the game and start BUFFING the 75% of other weapons that are unviable or completely useless

@kind light ranked is getting reworked again for season 3, they can't really do much mid season without fucking everyone over

[honest verge]

Heavy should get some sort of rocket boots that work like current goovement tech

[inner sparrow]

No mouse and keyboard support. Console players want to make awesome movements too, but its too boring

[crystal storm]

Make it so explo mines damage doesnt stack, double dropping them for cheap insta kills without any outplay is bad game design

[misty jasper]

finally an actual good suggestion to rework invis rather than people just crying about reverting it! i completely agree with you

[vast sage]

true but nerfing lights 1 cheesy gadget till it has no utility use whatsoever while every other class keeping their cheesy stuff as is, just sucks. especially when light is the most non meta class

[topaz jetty]

The things I would do for outfit slots + a randomize button for style

[rancid cloud]

My Steam Deck crashed and had to reboot in the middle of a match of Terminal Attack. Despite rejoining and playing out six of the seven matches, I still was suspended from matchmaking?

[near ice]

I wish we could still run while the boom box emote is active! I would love charging into battle blasting beats with my squad!

[keen heath]

please punish people who click the "leave game" button Im tired of people rage quitting because we are struggling to do the objective or leaving because they want to protect there oh so precise KDA

[grim cradle]

fr

[last sparrow]

Your updates suck. You’re all medium players over there in the dev team aren’t you?

[halcyon dock]

They nerfed fcar

[spark shard]

They supposedly made improvements to the matchmaking with this new patch... I've been laughing on the floor for hours now after checking that the matchmaking is the worst I've seen in this game. I can even tolerate the cheaters, nerfs... but the matchmaking is unbearable. I don't understand what was wrong with Season 1. This Season 2 is a completely bad joke.

I've lost count of how many times I can't even pass the first round because of teammates who I doubt are even platinum (I still think what the game shows me isn't real), not to mention when they match me with lower-ranked people and make me play against diamonds.

[foggy ginkgo]

And you continue to listen to the no skill players who are obviously skill diff’d good job

[sand marten]

at this point; heavy is far too prevalent.

I feel like it’s too easy to dominate rounds with the class.

[faint sky]

Good update i like it 🙂

[light beacon]

Embark I really hope you recognize all this anger from players as coming from a place of passion... You made a great, super fun game that people want to enjoy

But dear God what is the plan with lights??? I've mained the class since s1 and holy shit it just keeps getting worse - specializations and gadgets both need a total rework if the class is gonna make any sense to pick

[night glen]

AGREED !!!!

[shy sphinx]

Being a Swedish studio. We need some type of Nordic theme kit. Oh and also bring those beards.

[cinder ridge]

Elaborate?

[abstract harbor]

Ranked matchemaking is actually somehow far worse now.

This is how ranked games play out:
4 teams enter the match. 2 objectives to take at any time. Everyone identifies which team is clearly a triple stack or outranks everyone else by utilizing the scoreboard which shows current rank and player names, and strictly avoids that team and whatever they’re doing. The entire match. So, the diamond triple stack team walks away with a freebie every objective.

Here’s where the issue is compounded: The other three teams are fighting for LONG periods of time over the other objective in the map, and by the time they finish their battle, the diamond / high-ranking team has finished cashing out their objective, and is now on the 2nd objective just farming the scraps. And then they steal the objective as well, because fuck it, why not? GG.

Please remove ranks from the scoreboard, for God’s sake.

[amber quest]

this has probably been brought up but, I completed all the event contracts and haven't received the final cosmetic -- not a big issue lol

[glass fjord]

power shift platform position on seoul is truly awful

[gaunt thunder]

I won 6 matches and got diamond 2 and lost only 1 and lost all the progress that I won 🙂

[rapid dove]

+1 all my games is that, 1 team free game alone and 3 monkey teams fighting for nothing and be last hit by the 4th team

[silver snow]

This fucking game sucks. 9 seconds left in a power shift game and we’re gonna win……. Game crashes. Smh

[halcyon depot]

I never thought a mode more boring than power shift would be added.
If I want to play a game where if I or my allies get killed, it's almost over, I'll look elsewhere.

[patent summit]

Adding into this, Seoul powershift is terrible

[hasty citrus]

embark listened to the minority and killed light, thanks

[hearty lodge]

Give us the dagger from a few hours ago back ! The “new” one is totally a potato and how can one kill with a potato ???? “YOU CAN’T”

[regal ferry]

i love the new game mode, please keep it!

[shell nacelle]

invis nerf again is crazy.... Keep the new game mode though

[cobalt lava]

this would ruin ranked even more lol

[cosmic zodiac]

Killed the entire light class when it was already without any debate the weakest class in the game by FAR. Now it's been entirely buried. Revert invis change, and revert particular change allowing stunned players to use gadgets.

[violet solstice]

And yet here you are making Light class irrelevant...May as well just remove Light class from the game since ur nerfing it out of existence. I had high hopes for this update but Light just got worse AGAIN. As if only having 150HP & little to no team utility wasnt bad enough. Players getting punished for spending countless hours learning & mastering a class & use of gadgets & utility so they can actually be good with that class. Meh time for a new game I think. Good luck Embark I wish u & The Finals all the best for the future. I'm out!

[slate dune]

Love the graple

[ebon peak]

🤣

[last sparrow]

And yet? Here you are. I don’t think any of you guys have ever actually listened to the community. All you’ve done is suck the medium classes brown star fish since day 1. The only fix to this is to revert the dog shit changes you decided to implement. No one wants your dumb ass political answers, we want changes.

[low saffron]

Personally I preferred the 4 round Ranked Tourney over 3 round Tourney's
I understand the benefits, just a preference. Sad to see it go

[reef jasper]

Cloak needs a lower activation cost if you plan to keep this change where you are barely invisible at all...

stunning someone to have them simply put a barricade up is nonsense...

please reconsider the changes made to light

[shy swan]

• Replace bank it with terminal attack
• inspect friends list loadout and character
• cook grenades?
• gun game?
• randomize your loadout and gadgets n things specialization ability???????

[willow leaf]

I mean yeah I agree but the real solution is changing all of the cheesy stuff in all of the classes and not asking for changes to be reverted

[robust prawn]

Nerfed lights into the ground making me have to play medium… healing beam still glitches and doesn’t work. Nice

[bleak coral]

byeeee 🤡

[glass mountain]

Heavy did not needed that barricade nerf wtf yall doing to this game

[sand marten]

heavy is fine

[keen heath]

so when do we get the ability to save outfits we create? Would love to be able to make pre sets and change them super quick insted of having to remake them

[vast sage]

i dont think the stun nerf should be completely reverted at all. just the part about gadgets and specializations. i shouldnt stun someone just for them to defib, shield, or rpg me. let alone stay in charge slam. keep stuffs utility without having it be stupid and cheesy to deal with. imo i think a 140 damage button is cheesy asf, especially now that as a light theres no way to stop it other than just avoiding any heavy that has rpg. i dont think any gadget thats "broken" should be nerfed into non viability, just keep the utility while fixing whats incredibly annoying to go against

[halcyon depot]

Isn't light itself unnecessary?
I only have 150 HP so I need something like invisi.
It would be better to abolish light and divide weapons and some specialties and gadgets into medium and heavy.

[jagged cedar]

nerfing the dagger into near unusability is insane

[cinder ridge]

What do you light players expect from a light build. Surely you aren’t expecting to wipe a full team with the weakest class. It has higher mobility and more positioning based abilities for a reason. Light isn’t useless. You just get shit on when you try to 1v3 teams. I’m a medium in ranked n light in casual and I win almost every 1v1 gunfight. Stop begging for a class to be capable of things it was never meant to do.

[frosty notch]

Leaving everyone one shot with the fcar damage decrease it’s crazy bruh

@drowsy cargo u right lol

[twin stream]

i love this game but i dont appreciate yall changing a challenge on me when im almost done. played 6/10 terminal matches. check the score board and see i now have to play 4 more. this kind of challenge should have been decided from the start. that kinda pisses me off

[quick coyote]

Keyword: Light in casual. Basing balance off of casual is the reason this class keeps getting nerfed.

[drowsy cargo]

welcome to revolver have a good'un partner 🤠

[quick coyote]

it was bugged earlier, some people had to play 14 games while ui was only showing they needed 10 games

[errant sedge]

why at the end of the game am I penalized for leavong

[fathom gale]

Add a werewolf class it’ll be funny

[kind light]

yeah, There is always one full premade stack of Diamonds that grief the whole lobby. No one fight with them so they take free cashouts and grief other teams when they get enough money. I got tripple down almost every game when the game pushes me to play with golds against Diamonds. It was totally fine before last few days. I don't even know who in Embark desired to break what could work somehow.
I can also tolerate cheaters if i meet them once in 10+ games, i can tolerate bugs, lags, low balance and all but i can not play a game when i am sit in a freaking pain after every match because there is literally zero chances for me to win.
i had so much fun during the start of the season and it was totally fine in the first season. Now i am desperate.

[serene ibex]

it got buffed bruh, the barricade is so much better now

[spark shard]

I couldn't agree more!

[stuck trench]

Maybe YOU don't, but the community sure does, and that's whom you're getting your balancing ideas from.

Little Timmy wandering off into Narnia all by himself only to get jumped, and fondled by a tiny man with an uzi, then goes onto Reddit and cries it's OP.

That's who you're listening too. I get it, your target audience isn't semi-competent casual players and above. It just seems weird to nerf things in an attempt to help little Timmy and his friends not have to learn, and figure out WHY they're getting stun gun melted.

[torpid fossil]

Revert Akiba step!

[ornate briar]

I'm not sure what kind of metrics are being used to evaluate nerfs for the Stun Gun but honestly just makes my head scratch. Is there anything other than a dev note ie actual data specific metrics which indicate the effectiveness/WR%, anyone know?

[bitter grotto]

Cant play a whole match today, because i get kicked "systemintegrity check". How to fix that?

[indigo gull]

what do yall think of the new mode?

[coarse jetty]

cloak nerf still aint enough

[sudden tangle]

I havent opened the game and I won't until light class is as strong and viable as M and H. Shame, the mode seems fun.

[versed cloud]

Ranked progression still feels weird and nuanced even after all the changes I wonder when they will implement a more straightforward system

[gusty locust]

is Winning a tournament worth less now or is the first round worth more or hwo does the rating increase work with less total rounds

[reef jasper]

this kind of person is exactly the problem

[swift pulsar]

Light already is as strong as the others, you just learned one play style and refused to learn another one. I’m d3 and still shitting on lobbies with light. I never had to crutch m11/invis/stun to begin with. Try using utility and zip/dash for a change.

[noble ravine]

Three games in a row has been nothing but mediums and grenade launchers lmao

[grand gulch]

i've been stun/invis since beta and the new nerfs ultimately didn't affect my stats at the end of each match of bank it. Still a great setup for that game mode so i'm totally cool with where its at.

[wraith orchid]

bruh how can you destroy the dagger that hard. Literally NO ONE complained about too little aim assist. THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT TOO MUCH. Dashstabs were the only thing making the dagger kind of usable but now its gone. Rip to my money for spending it on dagger skins.

[last sparrow]

Whatever you did you ranked mode is crazy too. Three round 1 losses took me from Diamond to plat 2??

[gaunt thunder]

Won 6 rounds got top 550 lost 1 and im top 950 5 wins=1 lose why

@calm crystal yeah but that 5 wins makes the same elo then 1 lose makes no sense I lost all of the progress of the day in 1 match

[idle geyser]

@pearl kiln why was there no patch for the Healing beam bug and the bug where you cant shoot or use gadgets? They said they were going to fix those in this patch.....

[little pawn]

How on earth I'm plat 1 and around 11k on the leaderboard fighting against Diamond 2 stack 500 on the leaderboard?

[calm crystal]

Wins will always give you rank no matter what, but it will give you more or loss based on what it thinks your skill level is. If you suck but you keep winning (not saying you do) then you’ll get a little bit of fo, but when you lose it will put you down a lot more

[lyric elm]

There should be jump stamina to prevent people from just jumping the entire fight

[latent shoal]

The new game mode (terminal attack) is actually insane, i love it, great work. Hope it's gonna be permanent and maybe replace power shift.

[serene hearth]

i feel like there is no point of even playing light anymore, yall nerf every decent thing we have its not even playable anymore

[pseudo latch]

I can understand removing headglitching but the new barricade is so finicky about things blocking the placement. It gets stuck on just about everything.

[broken lake]

literally this, 100%.

and could they maybe unkill dagger?

[sage isle]

Thank you so much for having the worst matchmaking I've ever experienced in a competitive shooter in the 15 years I've been gaming. Plat 2 playing against Diamond 1 3 stacks. Maybe it's because the game is dead but I'd rather the queue not pop at all than play against 14 year olds who no life this game. REWORK SEOUL BEFORE YOU GO BUFFING GLITCH GRENADES AND MAKING ARBITRARY CHANGES THAT DON'T AFFECT THE HEALTH OF THE GAME.

[coarse junco]

Fix when you clearly hit someone with a sword and it does no damage please

[daring fossil]

its not just the sword, melee in general is affected, including dagger, quick melee, sledge and baton. holding a gas can and quick meleeing it to prime it works like maybe 60% of the time since the last couple of patches.

@quick coyote there have been bug report threads on this for months

[quick coyote]

They’ve been informed about the melee. It’s being sent to the devs iirc, saw a thread in bug reports earlier.

[vast sage]

you literally just proved so many light players point without realizing it. light kills it in casual when teams dont play together in this TEAM based game. but the second a team with communication and any bit of team skills comes in then light loses so much viability. balancing light off of casual players gripes just doesnt make sense when light is the least meta class especially in ranked. if you are constantly getting melted by light try to just play around your team and maybe open your eyes a little more to see a light before they get behind you because if you fight a single light head on then the chances are 110% on your side.

I dont expect to wipe a whole team although you can definitely do that as a light if the team is bad enough, but i expect to be a noticeable teammate in a team fight situation. glitch is good, portal and sonar are helpful in niche situations, and stun had every bit of its utility taken away. i get a nerf to stun but into the ground is crazy

[tropic pine]

You guys need to do something for the lights man. They were already the least viable class in the meta. Letting people ADS was a significant enough nerf to the stun, ADS AND Gadget is hurting us bad man.

Give us something to encourage team play, the reason why most people complain to you about us is that our flank and poke playstyle you encourage from our abysmally low health does not pair well with attacking a cashout or defending one. Do stuff like make glitch grenades stop cashouts, make us steal cashouts 1.5 or 2 seconds quicker (with a different alarm sound), give us a velocity boost when carrying a cashout or immediately after getting a elimination ETC.

[paper sandal]

Honestly love the bundle system where you can buy individual parts at a higher price per item. I think one of the strongest things in this game is the cosmetic systems, theyre really consumer friendly

[edgy pawn]

stun gun is completly useless now invisible got nerfed most unbalanced game might as well remove lights.

[untold flint]

Heavy needs to dual wield flamethrowers

[south gale]

New mode is pretty trash considering it should be heavily com based but comms are busted in game chat for Xbox at least lmao straight joke of a game mode

[carmine thistle]

Make the 93R Duel Wield, No Ads & essentially doubling its Dps to give it some what of a unique place more so than it is now in its current place.

[wanton rose]

Revert the duration and activation nerfs for cloak and make it a bit more visible/louder so it is easier to detect.

Stun gun ads is fine but it should still disable gadgets. We get that a light is not meant to 1v1 a H but if it comes down to it at least the stun gun disabling gadgets would be a huge help (rpg 140 dmg btw)

Nerf the heavy class, too many rewards for basically no skill needed. The tankiest class should not have this much dmg and utility.

Fix the matchmaking, golds and silvers should not be in dia lobbies.

Add text chat ty

[shy swan]

wow the only 2 things i found fun in this game got nerfed. fcar to out damage heal spam and the barricades for being able to run ram for fun n shooting over the barricade. are we just nerfing anything fun or needing skill for casuals n console players? tf???

an idea i have is a specialization that randomizes your whole loadout in game. maybe it even gives you the entire loadout and cosmetics of another player. idk something that randomizes loadouts cuz keeping up with meta shit is not fun. plus the randomness of something like that could be fun?

[olive shell]

Double heavy has no counters anymore - it is cancer

[tough merlin]

plat 2 vs diamond 1 isn't that surprising ALOT of games group people within a tier or two. plat 2 to diamond 1 is just over 1 tier difference.

This game honestly probably needs another rank to spread out the top end a bit.

@little pawn This applies to you as well, plat 1 to diamond 1 is literally a single tier difference.

@neon kettle , Gold 1 to plat 1 would also be a single tier difference. Gold 1 is right below plat and your right below diamond is how.

[spark shard]

https://i.imgflip.com/8ota6l.jpg

[drowsy stump]

Honestly I’ve gotten to the point if my team mates are dumber than a bag of rocks. I just leave I refuse to play with brain dead people.

[still yoke]

Is the cns hoodie quest bugged

[south knot]

The music in this game is soooooo sick

[short spruce]

New game mode is fun. My feedback would be to not allow equipment changes until halftime. Too much downtime for too short of rounds.

[mint hemlock]

Just got off playing the new game mode, never had so much fun playing since I started, honestly a great update! 😁

[violet solstice]

The Devs are obviously centring this game around Heavy & Medium players now. At this point they may as well just remove Light Class & just stick with Heavy & Medium classes. With Cloak nerfed into irrelevance & stun gun barely a stun now Light is finished. How much more can they nerf Light just to satisfy all the whiners & newbs who dont pay attention & dont play with their team in a TEAM BASED GAME...SMFH. Cloak was an evasive & stealth tool which is what a Light is all about. Whats a Light about now?? It has next to no team utility like H & M's do. With only 150HP, survivability & usefulness of light has been nerfed into irrelevance. How long before the whiners get Dash & Grapple nerfed as well. All these Wankers saying "just use Grapple or Dash instead". We shouldnt have to because Cloak was a viable tool until all the whiners got it nerfed by the devs simply because its a hit to their Ego that a lowly light with 150HP used the tools they had to get the drop on a H or M & kill them because of a lack of skill & team play on their part. Lights spend countless hours honing their skill to get good enough to have an impact just to have it all flushed down the toilet because of no skill whiners who just want EASY kills.

[raw blaze]

I think that Terminal Attack should stay forever. This mode should not leave and honestly, would fit perfectly in ranked.

[timber hazel]

I just want to say. I been grinding ranks for like 4 hours now and I have yet to meet a single Cheater. Good job embark :3

[terse lark]

please rework cloak, still doesn't feel good to use

give medium access sonar grenade again, so there is a counter to invis outside of heavy tripwire (never seen someone use it) and other lights using sonar grenade and tracking dart.

[errant fern]

LIGHT BALANCE FEEDBACK:
Nerfing stealth and stun gun is fine, but for gods sake compensate it by buffing dash or other guns. You are nerfing the worst and at the same time most fun class in the game - OFC PEOPLE WILL STOP PLAYING BCS OF THIS.

[indigo gull]

the dagger is pretty weak

[coarse jetty]

found the cloak crutch. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[ripe herald]

Yesterday day I ran into a very obvious cheater in a ranked match probably had 45 kills no death by the end of the first round

[marsh crypt]

what rank are you? plat+?

[shadow nacelle]

RANKED SYSTEM IS TRASH!!!!!!!! Dropped from 2k ranked to 4.6k noooooo wayyyyyyy

[halcyon depot]

new game mode?
I'll never do it again.
The best thing about this game is how easy it is to revive and change loadouts.
Tournaments are also boring for the same reason.
It's so unpopular that it only matches servers in a few regions.

[west cove]

I'm having an absolute blast with Terminal Attack, I hope it will remain forever ✨

[naive fulcrum]

revives makes a lot of plays completely useless, especially bc of defib, i like the impact of kills in the new mode, what you do actually matters

[cobalt lava]

S tier patch

[vast sage]

found someone who refuses to play with their teammates and use their eyes. smh.

literally whenever i play with friends who dont play light they are so happy when there are enemy lights because its free kills for them. i dont get it

cloak light is literally a noob stomper, if youre getting stomped by it, wellllll

[static phoenix]

The new UI sucks. Please revert it back.

[dim sun]

fr it is literally unplayable now, actually a terrible patch

[balmy jacinth]

I wasn't awarded the CNS hoody after completing rewards. Also my week 3 pro circuit win 10 rounds isn't working. This is on Xbox X.

[celest tree]

turrets need a health nerf, especially in TA

[willow jewel]

revert melee aim assist, the new one actively doesnt work and means hitting m1s with melee is near impossible

[daring fossil]

what? lights are literally the best for defending cashouts without being put at any major risk.

@tropic pine this is one example, I have like 15, I didn't want to spam the channel with a bunch of videos. A medium can't jump on a stealer, shoot him in the back of the head, place a breach charge, jump out a window and grapple to safety, pop the breach charge, kill another stealer, and then go back in with a stun gun or shoot again.

[tropic pine]

In what ways would a medium not do better in this situation? This is completely achievable with a zipline

[nocturne ermine]

🙂

[void summit]

This game should ranking by performance not win or lose.

[viral mountain]

goo nade keeps deploying incorrectly and i get stuck inside it 9/10 now

[lunar vault]

Madoys#7565 giga greifing event mode over and over by just killing themselves at round start... Perma down 1 player

[brisk flume]

i feel so lost on heavy now, the barricade change is so heartbreaking

[coral axle]

Anti-cheat broke linux support please fix, I have spend 40$ on this game and want to be represented in this community and continue to support this game. 🙏

[rugged elm]

It does

[upper edge]

This man might have the luckiest account on the planet lol

[orchid quarry]

I love the new medium event

[young hamlet]

No offense but the new gamemode does not feel like it belongs at all
Also for some reason after this update ive been lagging like crazy

[timber hazel]

@ripe herald
Yeah. That’s before the update ^^’
I’m talking about after an update :,3
Isn’t that obvious man

@marsh crypt

Diamond 3.
TaAwesome

Search my name on leaderboard if you don’t believe
Cause everytime I mention it, someone call me a liar :,>
Like why..

Ok guys, since some of you seem like you still face cheater, I just want to say that I play during the days and yeah, haven’t found any

@upper edge
I was?

:<
Man I really think the anti cheat work

[wanton rose]

it does not. I had 30-40+ kills games and lost points more than once for 2nd and 3rd round eliminations

[cinder ridge]

I believe good light players are noticeable and there’s nothing incredibly wrong with the class. Ranked or not the same principle applies. Go for picks and if you can’t hang in a team gunfight then dash or invis your way out. I think some of the light weapons should be stronger considering the health pool is so low but ranked or not it’s still viable if you’re good. I’ve seen lights wipe out full plat and diamond teams because they split up. That should be good enough from a class with the smallest hp and mid tier guns..

[last sparrow]

You’re in bank it. You have zero viable feedback for ranked play. This game was built for ranked play, not for casual plebs.

[quick coyote]

is there a reason I didn't get the hoodie from the new gamemode after completing all the quests?

[broken lake]

Embark, this is horrid.

You have somehow made dagger worse, which shouldn't be possible.

[violet solstice]

@true epoch Why are comments like this one allowed in "game Feedback". Its just insulting someone who gives actual Game Feed back in the Game feed back Channel?? These comments have no feed back about the game. Its just trolling & insulting to those who give actual feed back. Its just toxic comments.

[halcyon perch]

it would be really fun to have some kind of rpg boosting gadget for lights, it'd gotta have low dmg and high CD since the extra movement would be insane but i believe it would be really fun to play around and i think its possible to make it work

imagine a small rpg that shoots you up in the air, would be really cool

[little pawn]

I know it's just 1 tier difference but its day and night difference its 10k player difference so they def need new rank and they said ranked is better now but somehow its worst, i think people keep complain about que time but i don't care about that all i care about is a fair fight for everybody, and idk why heavy is so powerful but instead they keep nerf light yes stun gun annoying af but i prefer that everyday over rgp shot in my face. they need hard nerf for the heavy asap

[carmine egret]

we need heavy nerfed and you made little worst when people are saying it needs a buff

[vast sage]

bad point. the whole light playstyle shouldnt revolve around whether someone splits off their team or not. lights can slay in matches but that doesnt mean that they aren't less viable then other classes. especially when they're utility is undeniably worse than m and h

you say smallest health pool and mid guns (bad utility too) is fine when m has mid guns (worse than light admittedly) mid health great utility and h has great utility great health and mid guns. it just doesnt make sense

[tacit patrol]

Petition to add: Triathlon ranked mode.

3 games, 3 modes, 1 winner

[kindred igloo]

why tf is light still getting nerfed????? how can you bots still be crying??? how about all the shitters hop into aim labs before they go complain on reddit about how op a 150hp character is

[keen heath]

If APS Turret destroys a Glitch item the glitch effect should still go off

[abstract crane]

Anyone else having issues with the arena damage with a carriable? The I’ve been using the explosive canisters to blow up buildings whenever I get the chance and it seems like my progress is just stuck at about 22,000/150,000

[daring fossil]

that wasn't bank it, it was cash out, same rules apply as ranked minus unlimited respawns and I would argue is harder, since you're fighting 2 teams for a single cashout vs split teams for 2 cashouts, and this game definitely wasn't built for ranked play, quite the opposite, otherwise they would be balancing the game for ranked, which they clearly are not. I played ranked for 1 day to get my "win a tournament" challenge done, I played with light, I placed in silver 1 and I got to the finals one game with a single team mate who had zero kills every single match (other team mate left first round). So tell me how I have no viable feedback when I got to the finals SOLO against golds. If you need cloak and stun to do well with light, you're trash simple as that. Light isn't meant to be an aggressive class, 95% of lights play the class wrong and only play for themselves. I don't care if you're getting 20 kills a game, if you're not helping your team, you're useless.

[plain bolt]

new ranking system is not fun at all, you need to be in the finals to get up, if you loose at the semi-final you loose 2 to 3 arrows that's just unfair

[dim sun]

the dagger is unplayable please hotfix

[true epoch]

You can always ping us in any chat to tell us if there are people doing these kinds of things Sorry for the inconvenience.

[midnight ledge]

Did Akiba Step get removed this patch?

[green hollow]

There is a lot of down time between rounds in the new mode

[versed dagger]

Can we please a have a dagger buff next patch? Since akiba step is no longer a thing, it is in an even worse place than before

[versed cloud]

Yeah don't like the new ranked changes I would rather the game be longer and have kept the previous system than what we have now. It just seems more in your favor to derank now more than ever.

[wide void]

Could someone explain wtf the "Akiba Step" is?

[late cobalt]

2.6 is a great step in the right direction devs actually listening to the people sbmm is nice now diamond players not playing bronze to get free rank also to rank up u must be able to beat ur current rank y’all just yapping get better hardstuck bots light is almost useless in seasoned player lobby’s tho. Great work devs 👍🏽

[severe wave]

thx embark i love you guys. Ranked feels so much better now way less third partying. Fcar is actually balanced now. New game mode is good but i dont know if nerfing everything is the way maybe buff other weapons too i agree with the fcar nerf but still idk

[quartz narwhal]

Please Devs make light a viable class to play what are you doing with the nerfs...

[short spruce]

Yeah the nerfs to stun suck, but I hate that they made 0 positve changes to light. Balance the power, before it was all stun and nothing else.

I would love to see dash get some form of reload. % based, or individually tuned per weapon.

[rich saddle]

it's just weird that with fcar you actually need to know how to play. well atleast when it had 20 mag. I trully believe they have to do smth with shotgun. 2 shor med idk about that. Also they made an update with ranked to late. I am sorry to say, but the amount of trash you reached to dia...

[marsh crypt]

nice good job climbing, keep it up. i peaked d4 2750 lol...
i played 2 nights ago ranked last, got to final against a cheater shooting through dome shield d4 rank, ign was dr. disrespect, i can check for embark name too from recents i think

[waxen tinsel]

Add possibility to place more stickers 😄

[rancid cloud]

I honestly don’t mind people leaving casual, single round matches because the game backfills pretty quickly and it’s an excuse to fuck around without the pressure to perform.

Tournaments and multiround matches like Terminal Attack I think should definitely impose penalties.

Something I would like to see implemented is a list of people in the post match screen that quit the match, color coordinated to who they screwed over.

Separate suggestion: stats on people’s player screens showing a player’s likelihood percentage for leaving a match early, calculated by matches quit/matches finished (not factoring in reconnects if they were there for the majority of the match).

[timber hazel]

nahh. once all my friend reach diamond 4. Im chilling. I been trying to grind to diamond 2 for a couple day now but it really doesnt get up :,3. Oh yeah and apparently cheater can shoot through shield now. Met that one a few day ago. so bs man.

[quick coyote]

new game mode is boring af, cloak is literally pointless now, its 100% visible lmao. like it was before, but now its just corny as shit.

[olive shell]

Why nerf the weakest class? I main heavy but play with a light. It’s impossible to win against double heavy. Stun does sweet f all now after the nerf. But you are rewarding no skill shield spam in ranked meta. Make it make sense?????

[shy swan]

NOW ITS JUST HEALSPAM AND SHIELD MESH CLASSES DOMINATING EVERYTHING EVEN MORE. THANKS.

favorite ideas:

• specialization or gadget that randomizes the rest of your characters loadout. kinda like the data reshaper but for your loadout. it would have a long cooldown but be very fun lol.
• give heavy smokes so he can use charge and slam more!? 🔥 🔥 🔥

Some other ideas:

• nerf the healing gun somehow
• make smoke grenades disable all fire damage instantly(no flamethrower damage inside it)
• see friends list character and loadout from the list
• randomize your character button
• replace bank it with terminal attack
• make powershift more fun by making contesting the point ACTUALY STOP THE POINT not beep and let the point keep moving
• give the glitch trap larger effect radius when exploding
• let pyro mine last longer
• make flashbangs move like grenades and allow cooking it
• cook glitch and explosive and gas grenades?
• VERY SERIOUS SUGGESTION-> give us a propeller hat cosmetic!!!!!! lol

[clear drift]

i will say, smoke negating damage is a bit much. but that god damn flamethrower needs some work

[indigo gull]

i like bank it

[abstract harbor]

Removing the ranks from the scoreboard? How so?

[stoic zinc]

In my opinion, now everyone can play with fcar. But it shouldn’t be like this, right? Fcar and lewis were the weapons that required good recoil control, and as a reward we were getting a little bit bigger damage and less ammo of course… But now fcar feels so similar to ak, and i hope you can run it back as it was earlier, because i dont know really why this change was even made

And the game optimisation is worse now, i got input lags and game lags

[royal sentinel]

what did you monsters do to my beloved fcar. that and the lewis were supposed to be the harder to master but better weapons. nerfing its damage makes it no better than ak, which is designed for easy pickup and use

[tropic pine]

"Light is good if the team is dogshit" is not the argument you think it is

[glass fjord]

stun nerf is one of the worst fixes ive ever seen. youre telling me a light has a gadget that makes a character walk instead of run and maybe interrupt a cashout steal if its not easily body blocked, at the cost of 1 gadget slot, the same as a heavy who has a ONE CLICK 140 AOE DMG gadget on the same cooldown? AND they can use it when stunned now, so there's zero chance of negating a heavy one click death. dope. A medium gets an almost instant revive and temporarily invincible body block shield for the same gadget slot, which can't be stopped mid fight now. cant stop healing beam circle jerks.... seriously just remove lights from the game at this point because you're constantly forcing the HHM meta OVER AND OVER anyways.

The promised mid season ranked changes........ are a two thousand word condescending essay in the patch notes on how sbmm is really hard, and nothing will be changed besides shorter games with nearly identical if not more poorly matched lobbies. Lets be real, the reduction in tournament size was to help with the dwindling player count and long queue times, not fix the broken fame points system. Changing ranked now "would end up feeling broken, confusing, and unfair. "...... I'm gonna let you in on a secret about how the community feels about the current ranked system........

[elfin swallow]

I’ll post this here since #1218156215008235613 is closed.

Monaco powershift is unbalanced for the side with the crane, you can destroy the zip lines from their spawn to the buildings and it makes that section way more difficult to defend. The other side has a jump pad from spawn and there aren’t any zip lines you can get rid of to have the same impact.

also buff light

[wooden trout]

I don't like that the new gamemode doesn't have a better way to handle afk or disconnected players. We should be able to at least surrender earlier or find new players to fill in the spots since it is unranked

[wild coral]

Bug with the healing beam and defibs
No longer possible to slide while charging/having charged defibs or while actively healing with the healing beam

[wraith orchid]

bruh how can you destroy the dagger that hard. Literally NO ONE complained about too little aim assist. THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT TOO MUCH. Dashstabs were the only thing making the dagger kind of usable but now its gone. Rip to my money for spending it on dagger skins.

[vast sage]

their rank system is just busted and unplayable in certain cases. i am perma stuck the same rank, not just because i may be bad but because i literally can not rank up or down. i win (not just the round but multiple rounds or even the whole tournament) and i get three up arrows no matter the case. i lose a round (first or last) i get 1 down arrow everytime. i even got disconnected from a match and got three up arrows without even reconnecting yet. i dont understand what im supposed to do, i want to get the diamond fcar skin

[cedar haven]

OBLOCK MAP, SOME CHICAGO REPRESENTATION 🥶🔫🥶🔥

[cobalt lava]

As a diamond player, trust me, people do not just avoid you because of your rank. I get pushed by multiple times at once all the time. The fact that the ranked system shows ranks is really good for players being able to judge how well the sbmm is working. it would be very hard to give feedback without it

[marsh crypt]

💯 chicago map would be 🔥

[tribal olive]

especially in the river :>

[late cobalt]

Just played the new game mode mediums rocket launcher is op and should not be in this mode got shot from a rooftop headie with a downpour of rockets chipping away at my health making me super low while his teammate watch’s his back and they camp roof headies my teammates fought hard but couldn’t get them down in hindsight my heavy could have rpgd below but randoms aren’t ussaly that bright if u wondering y I didn’t beam from opposing positions I was light and didn’t want to risk it as last 2 alive

[oblique notch]

Can we get an option to use a keybind to climb ladders as opposed to climbing them automatically? it's got me killed so many times on the third floor of almost any building on monnaco

[silver snow]

These challenges are absolute dog shit. Steal Cashout 15 times? You have to play the game abnormally to even do this challenge. You literally have to let the other team score first then steal it... me and my buddy have the same challenge, so we're competing for steals. Whoever came up with this one is a clown.

[dry kiln]

Anybody getting this problem second day in a row

[wise nebula]

we need a new report button for intentionally killing teammates now with the new gamemode, this game just became toxic

[crisp prawn]

Please revert the UI changes - it looked so good before and now it does not fit the vibe of the game

[cunning badge]

Idk if this is happening to more peopole or if just me but after the new update I cant get in a game. Game either crashes on bootup or loading into a game. Drivers and steam are up to date uninstalled and reinstalled farthest I have gotten is attempting to join a game. Hardware isnt an issue. Strange

[burnt gate]

Ranked?

[static phoenix]

Fuck vibe. It's less readable now!

[timber hazel]

yeah bring back old ui. this one ugly

[delicate yoke]

Please stop nerfing the light class!!!! I was really hoping that this patch would do more for the light, but it feels like its grave just keeps getting deeper and deeper. Please give us some buffs next patch!!

[cosmic zodiac]

It's very obvious now that these devs don't respect their players. Uninstalling.

[quick coyote]

It'd be nice to have an animation or a more noticeable indicator of buttons for elevators and bridges being pressed.

[frozen tree]

am i the only one not getting progress on my "win 10 games" circuit from terminal attack

[cinder ridge]

well my argument was basically "light is good if you are not dogshit"

[robust creek]

This ranked tournament change is making me not the play the game anymore and the previous changes like getting rid of unranked tournament is annoying I am done with this dumbass game to many changes within a couple months

[young minnow]

When are they gonna fix the glitch that makes solos go against stacks

[cyan skiff]

I promise I will uninstall CS if you make Terminal Attack a permanent mode.

[abstract harbor]

It's very clear this developer has NO IDEA what it's doing when it comes to ranked multiplayer modes. They somehow made it ever worse than it was prior, which was already horrible.
This is easily the worst multiplayer game i've ever played. By that, I mean it had the most promise, and delivered the least. I'm out. GG.

[barren imp]

Yep, never seen a company so eager to destroy their game 😂

[tropic pine]

How do you make the team split up if being good on light is dependent on you

[novel steppe]

Is the arena carriables broken for anyone else?

[broken lake]

Maybe if they counted your team stealing it, but it has to be YOU. which slows it down so goddamn much it's not even funny

[wide harness]

Embark cannot balance correctly why would you make the stun not prevent gadgets AND allow them to aim ADS which is the two best aspects of the stun gun. Against good players the stun gun could still be beaten if they can aim and pick a gun with decent hip fire. It was a skill issue if you could not beat it before the patch, and now stun gun is completely useless thanks Embark.

[quick coyote]

Ranked is still trash, still unbalanced, lights can still be one shot by like 5 different things, its just insane how much Embark is lost.

Dude below me provided one of the dumbest responses to anything i've ever said on any topic in my life. 100%.

[misty jasper]

I play light in ranked, whole point is to avoid getting hit. It's possible

[silent beacon]

Hey Modi is perfect! Must be in the game forever!

[vast sage]

you shouldnt have to be so much better and really outplay and sweat on a worse player to win just because your class isnt as good 😮‍💨 . and even then that isnt the point. light does alot damage because it doesnt have alot of health, so its just as punishable as it is good. but it has almost no team utility in general. and pushing a class to play completely solo in a team focused game isnt how it should work

light is fun but i feel bad when i cant help my teamates other than getting kills. and even those will some of the time be canceled out by insta defibbing, because i have run to away after having almost no health from the previous fight. lights usefulness is just too limited

[thorny parcel]

I can't really pin down why, but Sledgehammer feels worse now. Please just remove melee auto aim

[vestal prairie]

Barrier buff is crazy 😩😩

[obtuse fable]

This game really need better Player Kill Portraits. They need to emulate a bit of Apex Legends.

[celest parcel]

What do you say if there are three more contestant slots? Out of a total of 9 slots, we can have one for each specialization.
Saving outfits aren't a bad idea either.

[coral axle]

Anti-cheat broke linux support please fix, I have spend 40$ on this game and want to be represented in this community and continue to support this game.🙏

[paper sandal]

I think if new modes were to get added, Embark should take a system like titanfall 2 or COD where you can queue for multiple selected modes at once with a rotating LTM option. Not only would it make the UI easier to read, but it'd probably also help distribute players between modes more evenly and would increase match variety.

A bit unrelated, but I think this game also desperately needs public test servers to test and tweak balance changes and features before they're implemented in the game at large. It'd help with fine tuning buffs, nerfs, and reworks and would definitely help with the post-update complaints lol

[civic remnant]

Anyone else finished all contracts from the event and didnt get the final reward?

[edgy pawn]

this game is dying light is so useless yall take anything that we have that's decent and nerf the hell out of it

[arctic lily]

Did you do 10 games or 14? Because it's supposed to say 14

[stable kraken]

First game on in a while, get kicked for "disallowed tool" and suspended from competitive game modes. Fun game

[crisp hare]

Yes

[jovial sonnet]

invis nerf just ruined lights, hear me out. Since invis is completely useless and you can still be so easially seen. Most lights are gonna switch to dash because grapple just isnt the best. Then soon people are gonna start cruing about dash because everyone will be using it, and then embark will nerf dash. Light was already terrible why did yall take away the little viability they had left. A small nerf to stun was fine but now its only use is to stop steals

[plain lotus]

Won 1st tourney round, lost second round, 1 down arrow, but I ranked up, for anyone who might think winning first round won't guarantee a rise

[mint knoll]

Ranked should have map bans that get swapped out every week so I don't have to deal with Vegas for a week

[frail prawn]

Yeah, its basically useless now

[sharp snow]

Make it so you can’t pick up a mine until it’s down. Every time I put down a mine and try to shoot nothing can happen because I can’t switch my weapon for like two seconds

[reef jasper]

Light needs some love, at high tier ranked games it is borederline useless now

[versed dagger]

we need wallrunning

[mighty brook]

You just suck with it. Ive been in a plethora of final matches with a light on opponent team

[broken lake]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-yugi-cringe-detected-mirror-force-gif-24005157

@quick coyote And every half decent light I know is pissed about the overnerf to stun. Even if they didn't use it themselves.

The invis nerf, it's fine, invis was already pretty much dead anyways.

The dagger nerf is completely unforgivable though. Never have I seen devs who hate so passionately on a weapon that has never had a defined place in the meta.

[faint flame]

The ranked system needs to be changed, I win a tournament I go up 2, I win one game and lose 2nd round I lose 3. Bullshit.

[misty jasper]

Invis is not completely useless...your whole argument is based on that and it's wrong. I still use it in rank and I've seen plenty of plat+ players use it as well.

[quick coyote]

he's not wrong? pretty much any decent light i know isnt complaining about the nerfs. criticizing? sure, but not overreacting.
what most people actually wants from embark is a change in the "meta" that is still the same as season 1

[bleak fern]

for private matches i have 3 people and its auto balancing the teams for some reason 1 person is on one team and the other team always has 2

[quick coyote]

These are the worst servers in the history of FPS games. Its a total disgrace that it continues to go on and on and on like this. I have no fatih in Embark whatsoever, I am completely convinced they're entirely inept, incapable of doing anything correct.

[fluid gate]

Can we start buffing stuff en masse, please? This game is starting to lose what made it unique and soon everyone will be running around as FCAR mediums because everything else took nerf after nerf. This isn’t fun.

[naive fulcrum]

change the week 3 pro circuit quest from win 4 rounds of power shift to win 4 rounds of any gamemode, you can even bump it up to like 8 or something, just funneling your community into powershift is not enjoyable and should go away