👂┇game-feedback

[main knot]

Feedback After a match make me laught...

[broken lake]

please try using sword without the emote cancelling tech and say that with a straight face. Oftentimes it's borderline useless.

It's also not bypassing the charge time, it's bypassing the dead time in between charges. (which is massive and WILL get you killed unless your enemy has genuinely had a sword stuck through their head IRL)

additionally, the same TTK can be accomplished by certain combos, and the method to shut down a sword user has, and will always be to just aim your shots correctly and have basic gamesense and awareness.

It might be hard to fight sword as a light, but you literally have dash, you have the single best ability to space with melee weapons AND the stun to utterly shut them down. If you're using a gun and don't get jumped, they should pose nearly no issue to you.

I've been a melee light user since launch as well, never had a genuine issue dealing with a sword light on any other class (except when I was running dagger) Or even when I was running a projectile weapon once in a blue moon.

[violet wing]

I think maybe it might be because it's a pandora's box. Teamchat can be toxic enough, but opening global chat even on proximity only is a whole nother level of player reactions the devs might not want to advertise. But that's just my theory. I'm curious to see how it would go tbh.

[next topaz]

Is here special form to report cheaters? The form in the game doesn’t seem like it works. I saw few people who play with cheats for a month

[pseudo breach]

Day 33 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

[thick sorrel]

As long as you don't remove Bank It, new game modes won't bother me.

[young minnow]

In a lobby where everyone is a 2 stack. There’s a diamond stack in every single match that dominates the lobby bc they play like they’re the us marines lmao

[vernal swallow]

Honestly just excited for the big update this Thursday, hopefully comes with good balance changes, don’t let us down embark

[river plover]

Please explain to me how you could get a team of 3 players when everyone is a 2 stack

There would be no way for a team of 2 players to get into a match if there wasnt a soloq player to fill the remaining slot

[outer frigate]

this game is so bad lol the non existant loadouts for one, the rpg flamethrower barricade bubblesheild combo in the presence of a medium, oh just throw glitch right? you cant because your ddead already. honestly loved this game early on but med and heavy gotta get nerfed or give us lights like 5 or 10 more hp. the hp gaps are insane. thers no ranged option for medium either and dont say the revolver is. idk the light was super viable and now you are forced to play heavy. or medium with a heavy team mate. thats just in pubs. dont get me sytarted with comp. i have 6k elims i am not a bad player by anymeans but theres a big issue in this game which is sad bc it truly has potential and is very refreshing. either insert more game modes or please pleease look at the hp gaps vs dps bc heavy should not be instant deathing then having throwable cover on top of an rpg and flamethrower combo. heavy is literally fragger that supports and deals damage? like hello? at least mediums have a dematerializer to slip through a wall but mos kids arent good enough to instant seal the wall. light can go invis or grapple or dash we can run and gun thats it. or hide with dagger or sniper. can be supportive but cover eliminates that aspect pretty easy.

[verbal reef]

Please bring add split screen!

[shrewd egret]

ad killcam

[lament depot]

just turn off DLSS lmao (skill issue really)

I can see Invis just fine

I like both, I think they have different purposes, Invis is better for long range sniping and
protecting a cash out imo, dash is better for hit and running and getting cash boxes

I usually play medium or heavy anyway

if Invis were more visible it would be practically useless

[willow leaf]

Your brain has a skill issue lol

[quick coyote]

Medium will still be the only viable choice, just watch. The wheel turns, nothing changes.

[vague arch]

fix the cheaters.

[misty jasper]

it’s def not going to be the only choice. especially without defibs. turrets and aps will be great, but heavy shields will be essential in this mode.

I would imagine lights would be great too for the attacking side to sneak in the key

[dire lance]

You guys need to consider the impact your challenges have on actual gameplay. Power Shift is horrible when everyone is trying to finish 4k damage from over 100m. Before you put a challenge into the game, consider how it will impact the game modes. People have been complaining about snipers in Power Shift from the start, your challenge just made it even worse.

[olive fulcrum]

I also don’t have problems seeing invis in general.
It is why I don’t understand how people feel invis > dash.

Dash so strong and so flexible

[daring fossil]

I mean, they probably get 100s if not thousands of reports every day. I'm sure it takes some time to investigate.

[magic wing]

Suggesting again a Hot Potato mode. When holding the vault you get points, but after a certain amount of time you have to throw it to a teammate or it explodes

[tight verge]

If I'm being honest, I can't think of a single instance where proximity chat was implemented I to a game where it wasn't a net positive. Sure you always have toxic people, but we have ways for people to be toxic already (emotes, tbagging, etc) but there's no way for people to be positive. I guess some of the gestures and sounds are positive, but they could be read as sarcastic and negative anyway. I think proximity chat would just be amazing. It might revive some of the playerbase too. People might come back just for proximity chat lol. If you know of an example of proximity chat actually encouraging negativity in a game I'd love to know about it because I can't think of one.

[royal pumice]

3 games in a row ive been put in a match in progress and cant choose my class as it's already decided what to set me as. Can we just stop filling in this way

[young minnow]

Ideally solos will play against either solos or with a 2 stack in a lobby where everyone is a 2 stack + solo. 3 stacks would be grouped against other 3 stacks. Theres obviously gonna have to be a solo player on a lobby of 2 stacks, but in a perfect scenario, every team will have a 2 stack and a solo so it will be even. Most matches are a bunch of solos against one team that is a 3 stack. I don’t mind playing against a 2 stack if the two other players on my team are also a stack. I just don’t want to have my team being all solo against stacks

[cobalt lava]

If the fcar isn’t nerfed for this patch you’re going to deter every new player that comes in with the new mode

[quaint badger]

could we maybe split up our career stats into the different game modes? keeping overall stats as the main page is fine imo but it would be nice to see win/loss and kda in ranked and quick cash etc

[merry totem]

Just curious what video settings make cloak easiest to see so I can compare to what I currently have?

[fair bolt]

Hey Devs, you can make skins like this real. wink wink 😉

[burnt notch]

Is the class list in the top left corner of the screen not showing up when u enter?

[quick coyote]

You will see 75%+ players run turret+FCAR+APS+Jump pad+Pyro = medium meta.

If you've ever played ranked you know light will be trash, sneaking < killing.

And there will be a few players still trying to squeeze some of the remaining life out of heavy.

[strong escarp]

RPG, Mesh Shield, Healing Beam, and Defib are the core problems that make Medium/Heavy teams so overtuned, easy to use, and insanely difficult to beat without mirroring their team comp. You guys probably have 2.6.0 changes ready to go already, but I'm praying that these specs/gadgets get serious treatment.

We've been reliving the GOATS meta from Overwatch for half-a-year. The game can't go on with such an unhealthy meta forever. Otherwise, this already niche game will truly die by the end of 2024.

[scarlet trench]

here we go:

there is no api at all

anti cheat can be turned off

no updates on issues with ranked

leaderboards for previous events are not paused

servers are really bad atm, worse than launch

a lack of developer support for people like me

meta is really unhealthy

random dcs and crashes, frame drops, black screens

no text chat so i cant comm with teammates

reporting cheaters does nothing as most are high ranked, and i have played them loads

some weapons are just down right bad

we would like a kill cam so we can figure out cheaters easier

seems like focus is on making more money on cosmetics than anything else

respawn system is broken, maybe try and make it spawn both teams the same distance away in the finals

[frail terrace]

Nice, first game of the day, waiting endlessly on other players to connect, closes game, 2h Suspension

[wicked light]

Lol

[wicked tiger]

I've lost about 50 wins from my statistics because I'm leaving games due to blatant cheating. Ridiculous.

[solemn sedge]

Please do something about elo in ranked. I’m tired of being plat one and no matter how many wins I get I’m still not diamond. I actually going insane 😭😭

[quick coyote]

This is just sort of an idea, not feedback but anyway, I think every map should be able to change the same. For example, Las Vegas would be able to have under construction or duck and cover whilst Monaco could have sandstorm or moving platforms.

[formal nebula]

This is my experience too, I've won 3 tournaments in a row on top of a weeks worth of 'going up' in rank points and I'm still in Plat 2 and never seem to move up to Plat 1.

[lament depot]

I think the only ones that would affect it's visibility are your screen resolution and upscaling, all of the other setting shouldnt affect it besides maybe lighting quality or something

[misty jasper]

I do play rank and i see a fair share of lights do well. Heavy is also still incredibly strong so idk what you’re on about

[daring fossil]

proximity chat would be bad for the game for the same reason why its bad in warzone. I don't want to hear the other team yelling out calls and talking to each other while I'm trying to play. Yeah I can benefit from it, but I can also benefit from hearing foot steps and the rest of the game. The same reason why I mute team chat when people have their mics wide open.

@merry totem shadow settings on low basically lets you see through smoke, so maybe cloak will be more visible too

[tight verge]

Wouldn't just turning proximity chat off fix that for you? Like... I don't get your complaint.

[hidden fable]

Add more long distance guns

[sharp kelp]

make guns shoot faster

[main knot]

Make america great again

[raw veldt]

increase defence budget

[marble herald]

Day 3 of asking to add red dot sights to weapons (please)

[quick coyote]

Lol then you have nothing to worry about. Have fun playing against 5 turrets every match 🙃

[fierce valve]

Ice Grenades that freeze the floor and cause people to slip.

[willow leaf]

These people want every game to revolve around them. Muting is too hard for them

[tawdry owl]

cooking grenades would be cool

[narrow owl]

Really hoping that Terminal Attack will have two Terminal sites, not one.

[pseudo breach]

Fix hit registration.... Please. For christ sake. It's becoming unbearable. Can't hit shit even when it's 2m away

[twin reef]

Fix the anti-cheat already FFS!

[daring fossil]

@willow leaf

that's the point, why spend resources on a feature most people are just going to turn off? It's hard enough getting embark to fix the goddamn regression bugs and bugs that have been in the game since launch. Game state has literally gotten worse over the last few months, we went 2 weeks without a patch for the first time since release (after they promised nerfs that week) and people want arguably stupid features so they can talk to and/or be more toxic to enemy teams, for what purpose do you need to talk to the enemy team? imagine how fucking annoying that would be hearing 11 people talking over each other in the middle of a hectic firefight? They wont even put text chat in the game and you want proximity chat lol?

[misty jasper]

Yea. I don’t lmao. Neither do you. This is a casual mode too, people will be trying new strats.

[jagged mist]

hey embark, just want you to know, your new mode gonna kill your game

[lavish pine]

ah yes i love playing ranked with only 1 guy or even none soooo fair i love this game a lot keep up the good work !

[merry totem]

Really appreciate that, thx. I know even less than that, though. Is the idea that if I use TAAU at 100% resolution that is what you mean by not using upscaling? Again, thx for taking the time

[lament depot]

yeah just turn off the upscaling makes smaller things in general more visible

to turn off upscaling you use TAAU at 100% yeah... i think they should just add a toggle switch to make it more obvious lol...

upscaling can improve performance by a lot so id only turn it off if youre weilling to turn down other settings to get back fps or if your system just runs it well enough anyway

my monitor is only 60hz so my computer can just run the finals at 60fps even with no upscaling and max graphics, i bet id have issues on a 90 or 120hz display though

i mostly play fromsoft titles besides the finals so im not super concerned about my refresh rate, i never really play ranked either so i can do fine with my 60hz

no upscaling just makes the graphics look a lot 'clearer' imo... like small objects and details are way easier to see, such as mines and grenades, and of course the invis effect

[white shadow]

New mode that's basically conquest from battlefield with like 10v10 or 20v20

[winged wigeon]

i would really like a simple Team Death Match game mode that i can play when no friends are on

[still yoke]

One of the quests is bugged deal 4000 damage from a distance of 100 meters

[granite dagger]

Try sniper

[cerulean mason]

Day 6 of asking Embark to give us prop hunt. PS, I will support yalls decisions when it comes to new modes and give them a chance, but please for the love of god do not balance the rest of the gamemodes around it.

[broken lake]

plus, prox chat lets EVERYONE shout down the toxic morons, lol

[willow leaf]

Most does not equal all and I don’t know why you just assume most people don’t want voice chat. Voice chat can be fun as simple as that. It’s a multiplayer video game, why do act like voice chat wouldn’t fit or make sense.

[vestal coral]

if you want to make the game better and more balanced, honest and based on team play and not a selfish game, you have to make a courageous choice that you will never make anyway because then all the children cry, which one? That of setting the class limit, a team must and can only be made up of one heavy, one medium and one light, there must be no such thing as teams with two, three heavy, same thing for two, three medium and light etc... Because that's how it is a crap game is not a fair game but only those who play as dirty as possible win. Unfortunately this is still a game that rewards toxic players and not good players.

[daring fossil]

of course it's fun being toxic to other teams, but clearly embark doesn't want that since they won't even give us text chat, and I can almost guarantee for every funny non-toxic moment with prox chat there will be 10 toxic moments. It's literally the only reason prox chat and death comms exist in COD so people can be toxic.

[hearty sun]

passive abilities for spec...

instead of an active ability, give some strong passive.

example: for lights, they could take a parkour passive, allowing them to have more movement options like wall running (both along and up walls to get to ledges easier), or boosting other players, etc.

or heavy becomes immune to stun/glitch

OR

passive in a gadget slot, buffs active specialization, ex: heavy charge n slam lasts longer/goes through more destructables.

[final shard]

carrer challenges, topp 500 rewards, boarders

[solemn sedge]

Yea I don’t know why it’s happening but I can neither rank up or down, I’ve tried both 😭

[summer elk]

Can we please buff Light and debuff heavy? Medium is in a great spot but these 2 sub classes are just dying rn

[pseudo latch]

For every one person who says this game needs a class limit twenty more say that’s an awful idea, and it’s more than just numbers. Enforcing role lock is bad for so many different reasons

1. Role queue becomes a mandatory mechanic, becuase if you don’t add role queue, everyone’s fighting tooth and nail for their class, and not only will leavers become way more common, those who don’t leave and are stuck on a class they don’t want to/can’t play will do poorly, which no one on your team wants.
2. Role queue is bad for a game, because queues immediately get fucked for anyone not playing whatever is current considered the “worst” class. Everyone will queue their preferred class, and everyone will be waiting on whatever class is played the least before a game can start, this can dramatically drag out queue times, especially in later ranks when and/or when the games balance means one class is “worse” than the others. For the finals, both apply, and people would be waiting anywhere from minutes to even half an hour for a light player to show up.
3. It heavily caps the ability for diverse teams to be built, because now everyone has to be LMH, it fucks with any chance for interesting team comps and leads to the game becoming stale faster, and that’s primarily because of
4. The meta becomes one really good LMH team and anything that isn’t that team will struggle into said team. Let me be clear, the meta isn’t great now, but at least there’s options. Not everyone has to play any specific team comp, because several work. MHH, MMH, MMM, LMH, arguments can even be made for teams like MML. It’s not phenomenal, but it’s diversity. Role queue means every single game becomes LMH. No if ands or buts, and that heavily reduces the options for team diversity, and means the game becomes stale fast, because every single fight will become a fight with “that one meta LMH team”.

TLDR there are so many reasons why role queue is a bad idea, and it does not solve the problems people have with the current game, it only makes them worse.

[slim sun]

creator mode when? for creating map

[main knot]

Oh yeah i want a Jetpack for heavy that shoot Rockets, and flying carpet for medium

[sour parrot]

Nerf flamethrower

[winged wigeon]

All the game modes available at the moment are more focused on team tactics. I think TDM in this game would make a lot of fun

[keen bone]

Create a platform for clans. Add clan tags, add servers, or game modes where it makes it easy for clans to compete each other which would add to the rise of clan wars and different leagues for this game and increase its popularity

[still walrus]

the ability to make custom games with even just 1 player for the experience of exploring a map or enjoying the game without hackers in private matches sometimes with a friend or 3..

[vestal coral]

of course believe us it doesn't work just because the players are now spoiled, in a game especially if it wants to take the collective and ranked path it must have limits, otherwise let's leave it casual full stop. Every self-respecting game has the limit of classes like LoL overwatch and the like. Those who complain are the usual ones who get stuck always using the same class. You say it gets stale but they're early gamers who play the same classes, weapons, gadgets, meta over and over again. The truth is that you are all a community of spoiled junkies by now, and you can already see it from your comment. A person gives an excellent idea and immediately starts crying that it's not good, etc. It's not good for people like you who want all the free options. Well done games must have limits and blocks especially I repeat you want competitive bets, but you don't understand if you want to make it a competitive or casual game, you have to make a choice. For me the best solution is the free and casual modes not limiting anything and the ranked ones setting limits. In my opinion the game is in a terrible state, starting from the sbmm and ending with the general balance. So either you perfect everything or you leave it super casual because with the way they're doing it now they risk losing more and more people, and it's a shame because the game is beautiful and I would be too sad if it died, for me it's one of the best fps games released in recent years.

[violet elbow]

the fact that the RPG is still as free as it is is crazy, just nuke its damage down to 70 already and give it 2 charges to make it an actual destruction tool and not just a damage crutch for bad players

[willow leaf]

@daring fossil My god. You people treat toxicity like it’s this evil all encompassing plague. It’s not that big of a deal. I don’t understand why you are even arguing against this so much. If you don’t want to partake in voice chat than cool turn it off in the settings. Why do you care if other people want to take part in it?

[pseudo latch]

Okay well first off, “of the like” is too broad, because pretty much any major competitive shooter I know of only limits by an inability to play more than one of the same character, league included. The finals’ classes work differently than that, so to compare by their merits isn’t fair.

Overwatch is the only game I can think of in the last forever that dared to try a role-limit system, and their players fucking hate it, for each and every reason stated above, for the finals the issue would be way worse by the lack of class options.

And sure, some people are fine playing the same class with the same stuff, my build has remained unchanged for months, but that’s not the issue, the issue is when every single fight becomes “the same heavy with the same build, the same medium with thr same build, the same light with the same build”. Fights get stale because now there’s no wild comps, there’s no wacky shield phalanxes or a bunch of dash lights with swords, the fun is sucked out. There’s less room for you and your team to flex the team they’re good at using, and 80% of fights become fighting the same team that’s better than everyone else. That’s boring, no one wants that.

Not everyone thinks your idea is “excellent”, and there’s no ground gained for attacking me directly, so let’s pretend that wasn’t written in there. Ranked modes need to be balanced, not limited. If you limit a mode you limit the purpose of ranked, which is to show how good you are playing at and with your best. You can’t do that if your team is restrained. Weird meta’s should be allowed to exist, it deters stagnancy, it keeps the game fun.

People aren’t spoiled for wanting to run more than a single class on a team, that’s an absurd take. I’m sorry you’re not very receptive to criticism, but I promise you, role locking would do more harm than good, both for the current playerbase and for the future of this game.

[runic quest]

can i stop getting put in games that have less than 5 minutes left in the game with no teammates

[high wing]

so reconnecting to a ranked game is still broken

[ashen stirrup]

can we get more facial adjustment features and overall customization for the characters

[daring fossil]

i dont care about people being toxic, Embark does. I just want Embark to focus on the shit that needs doing instead of arguably useless features like prox chat

[tropic cradle]

The challenge to steal 15 cash outs and especially if your team is trash at least make it as a team and not individually

[west shale]

🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

THANK YOU

[radiant spear]

Nerf flamethrower

[tulip dove]

skill issue

[wraith mortar]

^

[sudden tangle]

ban this hacker please

[lilac mango]

Fix the cheating problem. It's gotten so bad I'm genuinely considering telling my friends off from the game and quitting it myself. There was a time where this was the only game I played for almost a month, and it's still a game I play frequently. But I'm finding VERY little joy when mediums are only hitting headshots with FCAR. In quick cash of all places. At this point I'll even take an overly invasive anticheat. For the love of fucking god just fix this damn game. I don't need a new fucking gamemode I need a playable game.

[covert moat]

Please add the new game mode into the Ranked Playlist as well. The Tournament style gets really repetitive to play over and over. I think it would really benefit the game as a whole to have an Attack/Defense mode for ranked as a lot of Rainbow 6, Valorant, and CS players would be more likely to try the game out. A lot of the people who are bored of it will return as well.

[ripe relic]

honestly if recon got removed remove goo gun too

[stable gull]

Something I've thought about since the devs seem to nerf mesh shield every other patch, what if instead constantly reducing the health of it they just put it on a battery charge type deal like the cloaking device?
Return the health to 1000 or so but instead the shield health slowly drains while it's out, with damage making it drain the way it does now

[muted patrol]

Spot on take 👌

[strong escarp]

Another idea: make it a skill-based gadget whose splash damage is abysmal, but the direct hit damage is still high.

[timid leaf]

Super hyped about the new game mode! BIG UPS EMBARK!! \

[topaz smelt]

Random issue I have only with The Finals and no other games: Adjusting my mouse DPI per my mouse buttons or maybe quickly changing a spotify song can cause a game crash. Happens quite often.

[frail wave]

ur steam and disc profile is crazy

[willow leaf]

Just because it would be useless for you doesn’t mean it would be useless to everyone. Please direct your attention to my first comment about everything having to revolve around what you want.

[steel apex]

back to back game with cheaters past 2 days ive ran into over 15 of them and im not even past plat 4 yet

[wooden summit]

Mouse and keyboard support for Xbox pls😌

[dusk yoke]

There's a lack of long term progression except for ranked mode which only appeals to a minority of dedicated fans of the game

[manic steppe]

a nice QOL improvement would be the ability to name the different contenstants

[wide falcon]

there is a bug that some players arent forced to join voice chat in a team objective game that has no text chat and allow them to still play spiderman light and hide and seek light in ranked, (an obvious guaranteed lose 1st round) pls fix 😦

[daring fossil]

sure sounds like you want it to revolve around what you want though. That's called hypocrisy. This is a feedback channel, your feedback is that you want this feature, my feedback is that they have more important things to work on than a useless feature (yes it's useless because it's not necessary and doesn't improve the game in any way) that maybe 10% of the player base will use willingly.

[coarse junco]

Fix when you clearly hit someone with a sword and it does no damage please
W/L

[drifting pawn]

feature request: match highlights at the end of matches. rather than sitting there doing nothing staring at a tournament bracket for 1-2 minutes, show a few highlight moments from the match.

also yes, aim assist has no place in a competitive shooter. not even on consoles.

also yet again, please. remove. the rejoin. time limit. if your team has decided to stay in the match, there is no reason to limit the rejoin time window. you're basically saying here you prefer for the team to be fucked out of a teammate and not let them rejoin at all rather than even 5 minutes later in the next round, where they likely crashed, had a brief connection hiccup, or otherwise had to idle for a minute. has fucked my team (group of 3 friends) over many many times. easy logic to prevent abuse: if they were out of the game longer than they were in, they get the leave penalty

[high wing]

why is aim assist on pc even a thing, this fking game... smh

[winged wigeon]

they dont have that yet? Isnt that already possible on ps5

[nova veldt]

Heavys dash shouldnt deal 380 dmg

[gentle perch]

People need to be punished for leaving games wtf

[autumn ibex]

Ranked.....Silvers should not be going up aganist Diamonds.... I'm Silver 3 and Bronze the Previous Season why am I going up against Diamonds and Plats. Just the whole game tbh..fix it. Its obviously dying

[brave ice]

Having issues finding a ranked match on NA servers. 58 min + search time and still no match. Have 7/8 placements done

[mellow elm]

Are you guys aware on Powershift Skyway Stadium that if you head towards the manor house, and you get burned on the platform, you stay on fire indefinitely?

[lean birch]

Yes, embark is losing a lot of players

[hollow valve]

Yes.

1. Let me talk about the new mode. It seems to be search and destroy and CSGO combined. A mode requires team coordination. And tbh, the adaption of the finals to eSports currently will fail. Every game that wants to do eSports must have a large player base. (Peak player of the finals now doesn't reach 20k) And as the new vid of thiixy said, there are too much verticality and too many angles in the map, also, too many unpredictable factors of the gadgets in game. (Cloak due to other sounds no audio) Valorant CSGO even apex legends they only have gunfights (And like that there are still pros complaining apex legends' character abilities are definitive factors in a fight) and predictable environment and maps. I'm not saying the destruction and gadgets play in tf is not good, it's a highlight, but not now with little players and small community is a good idea.
2. Let me talk about current players. And if a game wants to have a large player base must care for the experience of the casuals. (Although as a tryhard player I hate saying that and I hate comparing this game to the soulless money making game of apex legends) But in apex legends, the casuals have things to do in a game. If you can't kill ppl, you can still loot and just walk around as a touring simulator. And the potential Engagement Based MatchMaking would let casuals kill ppl or win once in a while to reward them keep playing. But in the finals there is just gunshoot, you are bad you get killed and wait to respawn and it's boring to wait. And what else characteristic do the casuals have? They don't think, they don't know positioning and strategy and team play. And in a chaos/fast-changing environment, it even requires more attention to see through the current combat situation.
   So what I think is this game is born to be a fast paced no brainier fun game. It can be an eSports title, but not with the current situation. The current objective is to obtain more players and maintain more casual players.

[hearty bough]

Even just one of these would go such a long way. Also they need to make it such that you can’t auto-lock on an opponent who is in the defib animation

[timber hazel]

Yeah, I don’t understand why they’re trying to compete with tactical game like siege or csgo when there isn’t really that much depth in the game. And yep. You hit the nail in the head, I’m a high rank myself but game should try to appeal to the majority (the casual). Look at over watch and team fortress 2, look at what those dev chasing the elusive esport scene did to their game.

[teal pike]

Perhaps add smth like a Loss Prevention system like CoD joins when you join a match halfway that is in the brink of losing?

[near snow]

why do i consistantly have to get the worst players in the match on my team? do you have some sort of system that puts high score per minute people with low score per minute people? more than half the matches i do the best in the lobby yet my teamates do the worst. why?

[hallow lintel]

Trying to emulate CSGO and Siege is not the way to go. The Finals should look more towards games like HALO for insperation with game modes. The games are much more similar, and for instance something like capture the flag would be amazing in the finals i think.

[violet solstice]

hahahahahaha you are taking the piss right???? Proximity chat doesnt make the game more toxic??? Being able to talk to enemies doesnt make it more toxic??? It makes it TOXIC as fuck dude. Thats the only reason people want it in the game. U mentioned Battlebit...yeah my son & his mates played battlebit for the main reason so they can TRASH TALK the enemy teams!!!! TOXIC!!! This game has ingame mic for team mates & unless u are disabled the majority of gamers have a Mic. People just choose not to use it for whatever reason (its annoying). But adding any kind of ingame chat that enables Trash talking the enemy is a stupid & Toxic idea! People just wanna troll the enemy in game. Just tea bag enemy players & emote over them like the other toxics do & leave the toxic cross chat out of it. So many games are ruined with the Toxic ingame cross chat. Why would they want to implement something like ingame cross chat that can & will be abused & just cause more problems. BTW my "Kid" is 25yrs old & toxic ingame chat is a thing in every fps game that has it. I remember my 1st game,I got teamed with a pair of "kids" 12 & 15 & they spent the entire match abusing me & trash talking me cos I wasnt good at the game yet. "Kids" can be the worst & the last thing we need is the ability to trash talk the enemy especially newbs who are trying the game out for the 1st time. Its just Toxic to the game.

[woeful night]

Make it so you can start private matches solo i dont know why its not already like this i just wanna explore maps and blow stuff up

[untold wing]

Servers aren't free

[tawdry wadi]

❗Please replicate this until due attention is paid:

🔥 Add to game:

Global chat
Dm message to added friends
( Increase the social immersion of the game )

Return the ranking points
( To have a better idea that we are not stuck in the same place )

Deatchmatch Mode with smaller map
( Good for players to train gunfight and see which weapon is better, make casual players feel free to rank and etc... )

[willow leaf]

It’s not hypocrisy because I’m not saying embark should only do what I want and ignore or not do other things like you are. And again just because it wouldn’t be a improvement to the game in your eyes doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be a improvement to others. Once again I don’t understand why you are so against this when it won’t even affect you.

[pseudo latch]

Maybe you shouldn’t be getting close enough to him he’s doing that kinda damage. Learn to walk left, failing that, learn to DI out of it

He really doesn’t. If heavy lands a charge it knocks you directly away from where he connected. Literally strafe left if he hits you, as long as you don’t hit a wall you should be able to disengage quite comfortably. It’s not a command grab, as cool as that would be.

[winged wigeon]

These are some good points, i dont need the chat, but the other two points are good ideas

[daring fossil]

it is hypocrisy, im not going to argue with you anymore. I don't care if they add proxy chat, I'll turn it off like most people will, i'm saying it's a waste of resources when it's completely unnecessary and they have better things to worry about, like fixing bugs that have existed since beta and adding actual meaningful content. I never once said or inferred "do what I want and ignore everyone elses ideas" it's just a stupid idea.

[nova veldt]

He can dash while being infront of u, And he glues u to himself once he hits u 1 time

[tight verge]

hahaha im ngl little kids being toxic is the funnies thing. Which games that have proximity chat have been ruined by it? I honestly canit think of any but I also haven't played many either. And if people didnt like it they could just disable it in settings no?

[hollow valve]

And as for how to gain casual players and maintain them, I think it's very difficult. Comparing to apex legends' candy-rewarding policy and time-wasting traversal and looting, the things I can think of is to explode things buildings, use all kinds of fun and unpredictable (potentially overpowered) gadgets to kill(outplay) others. But all these would just exactly bring the balancing problems and head to the opposite direction of eSports and competition. So I think (not a suggestion, the execution is all devs' choice) make two types of modes, Arcade and Tactical. For casuals, add whatever is fun and cool in Arcade. But for those who play competitively, provide a predictable environment, have strict balance in ranked, even by restricting gadgets weapons and even all players have the same body type if necessary.
I think we must play safe(or not) and gain more players. No players, no popularity, and no money.

[ebon tendon]

just win your fights then steal cashout- dont try to steal-then kill. Only advice i got for ya

[violet wing]

☝️
@tight verge Oh I really think it could be fun, I was just imagining the reason devs made it that way. And for my theory I just thought that more voice (especially kids crying their lungs out, insults and so on) would maybe spoil the TV show feel they are trying to set. I could be completely wrong.

[quick coyote]

Day 1 of asking for swimwear bundle when summer rolls around

Trust me it will sell like hotcakes

[dim schooner]

Something is changed with ranked? How you can get -2 in 3rd round on a 3rd place in plat 2? And yep, confirmed what same ppl in the party can get different rank changes in the same match for some reason, for both plat 2 players in the same time can be +1 and -1 it feels really off, because as a team your performance measured somehow really wrong lol, it's not about KD or summary points, it feels like it's random sometimes and it started after last week patch

[crude brook]

bring back unranked tournament with no penalty for leaving and backfill possible in the first round
make new gamemodes an on occasion thing only
focus on balancing tournament play
dont release terminal attack - unless as a temporary casual gamemode

[slow sandal]

Rank seems to involve at least kills (if not other stats), I play with the same couple people and tend to get more killing blows, and I'm higher rank than my friends

[molten remnant]

Fix the damn mines. I can explode every mine when the whole team is dead and you flying around

[willow leaf]

Lol you act like toxicity is the boogeyman. It’s not that serious

[near snow]

if you are gonna remove healing on medium for the new mode you might aswell remove mesh shield while you are at it since i know there arent gonna be any lights playing that mode, just like powershift heavies and their shields are going to plauge the mode

[violet solstice]

Yes because Toxicity is a great thing for Games SMFH

[copper lodge]

imagine a water balloon grenade skin

[cerulean mason]

You know what could eliminate a lot of toxicity and tension among the playerbase? A nice fun gamemode to unwind with when we get angy, like

PROP HUNT

Embark style, of course. Give us some destructive capabilities that can be earned by props for staying alive past a certain point, or likewise for the hunters. You could award various specials/gadgets based on time survived/props found for each team. Just an idea. Anyone have any thoughts for Embark flavored prop hunt?

[quick coyote]

Exactly, or a water gun revolver skin
There's a lot of stuff they could do with a swimwear bundle

[rapid stream]

Just play Gmod

[lilac mango]

PLEASE make this real.

[granite silo]

PLEASE CHANGE THE 100 METERS CHALLENGE 😭 i’ve done nothing but snipe the past few matches and NONE of my kills count bc 100 meters is ridiculously far!!!

[lean birch]

Its happening to me too

[astral pecan]

Please make it to where only one medium has a healing beam and only one can place an APS turrent. And lower the sledgehammer damage by a smidge.

[keen cradle]

please ban aim bots and cheaters

[viral pulsar]

Hardcore mode would be pretty fun

[upbeat olive]

Can there be a way to rejoin a tournament if your game crashes? I just won a game to get to the finals then my game crashed on the loading screen and when I boot back up I can’t join back and I get a 2 hour ban for no reason because I would reconnect.

[tawdry wadi]

If you could replicate what I sent I would be very grateful my friend

[icy summit]

mabye made max vrs 10k and create case with ultrarare item and connect game to trade platform in steam

[signal root]

So what l do is let the game fully start up cause you can still hear it in the background, and after it starts that’s when you close your app and restart it back up. No penalties and it’ll take some time to reconnect but just keep reconnecting

[cobalt lava]

Nerf the fcar. No reason why support class that has support that strong should be dealing that much dps. It also outperforms every other gun on medium at their respective niches

[keen cradle]

if devs don’t want to restore game chat on xbox, can we atleast get a “Slow Down” ping for teammates who blindly rush into wipes

[upbeat olive]

Thanks for replying to this, but when my game crashes it instantly crashes like game fully quits out so I don’t think this solution would work for me. Thank you for the advice though! If you have any other thoughts about how to resolve this that would be greatly appreciated!

[near ice]

Since we have an issue with folk quitting over trying to maintain unrealistic statistics we can't view, I suggest a badge of shame be placed over a players ranked badge no matter what tier they've achieved.

After so many matches quit, you earn your badge. You could get it removed after being a consistent good sport.

Since these types of players care so much about stats other players can't see, maybe they'll commit to matches if there is the possibility of earning a stat that's visible to all.

[blazing loom]

Add practice lobbies where friends can join and the bots can move around the map freely instead of a set location

[novel zephyr]

The contract for depositing 150,000 cash in any game mode I think is a pretty difficult and tedious one. I barely play any cash modes since I like to focus on Powershift. And 150K seems way too high, at least on Bank It only your individual contribution counts, not the teams. So if every game I on average can bank 5K, then I need to play around 30 games to complete it.

Most other contracts can be finished in 5 games or less, while this one is way out of proportion in time commitment.

PLEASE RETHINK THIS CONTRACT. Thank you.

[willow leaf]

Why is the healer the second strongest class. That’s not how it works in any other game. The healer is always the weakest class

[still yoke]

Bigfoot skin

[torpid edge]

I agree

[pseudo relic]

Why does your rank go down 2 times in the fianls and what cause it to do that? I really like help with that?

[timber hazel]

Exactly what you said. You gonna take years if you try to complete it with bank it. Just go play cash out, the unrank game mode cause the cash box scale from 10k to 15k to 22k. It still a. Bit tedious but definitely better than doing it in bank it?

[young minnow]

Can you make it so that kids can’t spam pings

[dapper kelp]

Wouldn't ranked tournaments be much easier to queue if they condensed the tournament from a ~40min 4 round tourney, to a 3 round ~25min-30min tournament. It would also make queue much easier to find 24 people instead of 48. Sure it would lessen the satisfaction and intensity of making it to the 4th round. But queue time would be less instead of waiting so long in tournament queue. Just some thoughts from someone who has trouble queueing.

[desert anchor]

Add thunderstorms to the game. This could be just a weather effect with lightning, thunder and rain to create a cool atmosphere, or an in game event with lightning striking players randomly. Being higher elevation (sniping on a building) increasing the likelihood of getting struck.

[willow leaf]

Medium makes this game boring. Would be much better without it

[warped fable]

Riot shield hit reg is so bad

[quaint badger]

i had the same issue with queue times until i just started region hopping based on the time of day, im from england and a bit of a nocturnal creature so finding a game in eu region at 4am is near impossible, but since the servers are pretty high tickrate i havent noticed a difference between eu and na only very slight differences

[terse lark]

fix footstep audio, buff weaker weapons and gadgets, do something to make light stronger and more in line with the power and teamplay ability mediums and heavies have
thanks

[hexed granite]

Footstep audio fine for me, I can always pinpoint where people are. Rest I agree with, the weaker weapons should be buffed. Gas needs to nerfed a bit. Having a mandatory heal or being a heavy while defusing is wild if you are light. Basically makes it impossible to defuse as a light.

[tight verge]

I agree it would be a risky thing, but if they gave us the ability to block people's voice, turn it off completely in settings if needed, I dont see a problem. I honestly think it would further enrich the gameshow vibe they are going for. If the finals was real you better bet people would be jeering at each other in the arena and rivalry's would form. We will see what the devs end up doing.

[lean birch]

Rankes have bug gain points, plat2 in semi final i got 1 point up only. pls fix it

[drifting gorge]

The High Notes should not be here 😭

[willow leaf]

Power shift is so annoying to play now. It was actually fun during the Easter event which just goes to show how many abilities in this game are horrible and should be removed

[misty ice]

I've resently gotten this auditory bug where the sound of a sliding or stone grinding sound will repeat over and over again while in play, it only stops when I die, and It makes me unable to hear a lot of things like footsteps and team/enemy chatter.

[serene hearth]

make all black baggy pants

[quick coyote]

THE MOST TROUBLING FLAW OF THE FINALS AND WHY SO MANY PLAYERS ARE LEAVING THEM IS: PLAYERS DROP OUT OF GAMES. THEY ARE DIFFERENT FROM THOSE WHO LOSE CONNECTION, BUT FOR THOSE WHO ABANDON JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ABANDONING, DO SOMETHING WITH THEM.

[solar cradle]

Suggested nerf for some broken elements:

invisibility specialization: make triggering the invisibility use a significant chunk of the bar (20% or more) when you activate it when the bar isn't full. inviso shouldn't be able to turn it on and off repeatedly or endlessly after it's disrupted (whether through the invisible player's actions or someone fighting them)

Rocket launcher: 140 dmg is still too high unless you make the ability reset a little longer and have it carry over from life to life. You shouldn't have a rocket every time you spawn if it is 140 splash dmg.

healing beam: have using the beam on someone burn battery or whatever even if their health is full. I know it stops recharging but it needs to go as far as burning charge when you're holding heals on a teammate

stun gun: 1. should not disrupt captures. 2. should be counterable by aps turret and or healing beam 3. also consider that it unevenly ***** over controller players (👋 ) because of the lack of strafing (to micro adjust aim), and not being able to use aim down sights (which can have a different look sensitivity for micro adjusting aim) ....and to top it all off..we already have slower aim speed to begin with. I'm often dead before I can even turn around let alone aim and try and defend myself.

Gameplay: Stealing the cashout needs to stop the game / capture timer. The way you have it right now there's like a dead 4.5 seconds no mattet where I am that if I'm not already capping it I've lost and know it despite there being 4.5 seconds left and I'm 10 feet away.. If you have capping stop the timer you can have crazy fights for the finals few seconds.

[solemn sedge]

Bro cloak is already nerfed to hell 😭 y’all really be complaining bout the darnedest things

[trim plank]

power shift SERIOUSLY needs to be fixed. every game has been so one sided, and people just leave the game and give up. recently queueing has just put me into losing games EVERY time

[sonic spoke]

I want to be excited for the new mode. but it looks like it will be a hacking exploiting heaven... Hope it comes with a masssssive security update too.

[violet wing]

I like your vision, you kinda convinced me tbh lol, FUCK YEAH PROXIMITY CHAT WOOOOO LESGOOO !

[terse lark]

footstep audio is just not very consistent, you cant really tell where the footsteps are coming from most of the time. idk if making footsteps louder would help or if there is a bug where you just cant hear footsteps sometimes. but the game itself is very loud, which only makes hearing footsteps more difficult to hear.
it would be cool tho if footsteps were different depending on the class too tho. like if heavies had heavier sounding footsteps and lights having footsteps that sounded lighter.

[tight verge]

LETS GOOOOO lol

[thick sorrel]

Bank It Ranked please. It's been proven and especially more enjoyable as Solo Q.
Btw: New Maps > Modes
Also I thought Experimental Modes over a limited time was good thing. I know people like Powershift, but in my opinion it forces few playstyles which is less fun. Lights are just sniping, heavies go full shiels. Medium APS Turret spam, healing - it's boring honestly.

[willow leaf]

Remove medium

[woven swallow]

I kinda want to see Duck and Cover move from a stage condition to a mid-game event alongside the duck being a lot more noticeable, like a physics object that can be pushed with explosives.

[merry totem]

Probably no fix and just an unfortunate limitation of the physics, but are you supposed to get stuck in the goo on the moving platform like that in Power Shift? It almost feels like it's the movement of the platform causing me to move into it until I can't get out of it. If it is a bug of sorts, it is a pretty unfortunate place to get stuck like that.

[broken lake]

yea, it also makes dash nearly unplayable in powershift, since a light will just get utterly consumed

@daring fossil : the spammable AOE impact GL easily 2-shotting lights should've never been a thing.

[solar cradle]

I can't name another competitive game or just any ovp game really that someone can go invisible over and over after taking or giving damage

[daring fossil]

please nerf the no-skill GL40 bunny hop spam. It's literally the most toxic no-life no-skill thing in the game to play against besides stun and I'm extremely tired of it. They don't even have to aim, make it inaccurate while jumping and nerf the damage, and give it more self damage like the RPG. it definitely DID NOT need the buff in season 1.

@merry totem it happens on stationary goo too, the problem is just amplified on moving platforms and in power shift. I legit got stuck in goo for 30 seconds on a moving platform one game and it cost us the match.

[quaint forge]

Can I please get into a match with my skill level instead of people who just waste their life playing games

[merry totem]

One other question, and I wouldn't want performance to have to suffer to fix it, but APS turret working through the bottom of a platform? It's cute and fun and I remember the first time I figured out what was going on and went under there to destroy it, but just had a game where I went to throw down a dome shield not noticing the yellow circle on the platform only to have the dome zapped by the APS (through the floor?). Somehow didn't seem right, unless I don't know how an APS turret is meant to destroy projectiles.

@daring fossil That's part of my concern, though. If it happens with stationary goo, then maybe that's just how goo is supposed to work, players are supposed to get stuck in it. Of course, if there is something about the movement of the platform pushing players into the goo through no fault of their own, that would still be something not quite right, I'd say.

[polar shell]

Please include more short skirts in future updates

[quick coyote]

A question: ||Isn't it a bit absurd for the sword, knife, and secondary arm strike to pierce the heavyweight's shield ability? Do you block an RPG and you can't block that? Or am I the only one who suffers from that mistake?|| 🤡 ❔

[tight niche]

i would like to see facial hair added

[slender oasis]

The riot shield also suffers from that as well

[untold flint]

Can we please buff light build so using it explodes your pc

[novel eagle]

Use an aps

[unreal fossil]

I've seen so many players leave QC games as soon as they got killed once or twice tonight. I guess they were in a rush to come here complain about how they're getting cheaters every game, or how X class, weapon or gadget is broken/overpowered. Seeing this makes me question things that I read in this feedback channel. Honestly, if you rage quit as soon as you get outplayed fair and square, then you should stay away from giving any feedback on this game...

My friend and I were playing M/L with randoms (usually new players...), shotgun/dematerializer + XP54 or LH1/dash, we kept steamrolling/emptying lobbies with 3-5 KDR on average, despite having a deadweight in our team.

It gave me the opportunity to see by myself that:
A) Light class can definitely be played without invisibility, in fact I don't even use vanishing bombs.
B) Stun gun is also definitely not necessary to stack up kills, I don't use it either.

I actually won many fights against other Lights because they were running around with the stun gun at all times while I was not, and they just got beamed before they could use it, because they missed the stun, or because they failed to kill me despite the stun.

So to all the "Light is unplayable since the nerf" complaints now sound very much to me like a good ol' skill issue. People seem to forget that both the LH1 and XP54 are extremely strong guns (damage, range, accuracy), probably the best in the game, with the FCAR being third. So you may have the weakest class in terms of health, or team utility, but you can deal insane amounts of damage very fast, and you are yourself able to move very fast in and out of fights.

What I'm saying here applies to a lesser extent to Ranked, because the gameplay is different, teams are more skilled in higher tiers. So I can understand why Light feels underwhelming there, or why invis/stun are needed. But in casual modes ? That class is playable. It needs buffs aimed at making it more useful in Ranked.

[halcyon dock]

Use mesh shield

[pseudo latch]

CL40 is mindlessly easy to use, I’ll cede to that, but come on, it’s the CL40. Just shoot the prick and be done with it. Even if he blows up one dude on your team, he’s dead before he’s done reloading, if he even makes it through a full mag.

You can also match his mindless spacebar spam until he’s out of grenades, CL40 damage falls off fast.

[merry totem]

You probably see this sort of thing aggregated on your dashboard, but my game has been really unstable all of a sudden the past two days crashing a couple times yesterday and already 4 times tonight. I play in NA. Haven't changed anything with my settings or setup and have gone through all the steps a person is supposed to try when this start of thing starts occurring. Haven't had this problem personally since early Season 1. Also, if anybody has thoughts on things I should try that I might have forgotten or not be aware of, I'd be appreciative. Icing on the cake is that twice already tonight it was with the platform at like $38k on the verge of winning. Nice.

[versed cloud]

Heavies that are respawned in by teammates ((underneath the stairs of the music venue on Las Vegas)) fall underneath the map. I think the heavy gets pushed down from being too big to fit

[polar shell]

I get sweaty in long ones, and the wedding dress doesn't suit me tbh. I like being able to show-off my full-body-art. Also another full-body tattoo would be good 😄

[tender rover]

What happened to the heavy samurai skin from the closed alpha trailer?

[blazing loom]

add a ping for low health opponents like "low health enemy over here"

[quaint forge]

Bruh why did I get two arrows down after making it to the second knockout round with a total of 12 combat score

[pliant spruce]

Hello Embark, I have a great idea of end game events on the maps.

Name: Nuclear
Event: Several mini nuclear bombs fall on the map destroying everything and leaving "irradiated" areas
Effects: the interior is black and white and impossible to distinguish enemies from friends. No more health bars

[thick sorrel]

It's true and the only reason it's tolerated is the low pickrate. Why would you, when you still have the FCAR. Same goes for Medium's Model 1887 Sniper.

[quaint forge]

Oh, that kinda makes sense ish based on how weird the system is, thx man

[tawdry wadi]

❗Please replicate this until due attention is paid:

🔥 Add to game:

Global chat
Dm message to added friends
( Increase the social immersion of the game )

Return the ranking points
( To have a better idea that we are not stuck in the same place )

Deatchmatch Mode with smaller map
( Good for players to train gunfight and see which weapon is better, make casual players feel free to rank and etc... )

[onyx pebble]

Ranked system isn't very well thought after. I also thought that based on the game's name, plus the introduction of ranked, that embark would follow a route that would seek the establishment of a new competitive FPS game, but I think that's far from the truth. I think their main focus is arcade and casual modes, and the game just happens to have a ranked mode as well. There needs to be a clear division, because the two sides are very difficult to coexist with the same balance. For example the light class is extremely underpowered against a coordinated HHM or MMH team (which is the majority of high elo ranked teams) but very strong at the casual modes at the same time. Embark is in a very rough spot with this. I feel like any balance change that would benefit ranked, would somehow cause issues in arcade modes.

I think they should just follow Riot's route, different balancing for each mode, (tournament / arcade) like Riot does with Rift and Aram

[austere vector]

Okay hear me out , we need this skin

[hasty cliff]

#⚡┇the-finals-chat message fun is priority so dont be surprised their focus isnt largely on ranked

[hexed granite]

Instant revive has no place in this game. Healing being mandatory also has no place in this game. The gameplay loop of getting hurt into running into cover for 10 seconds of downtime til you regen is simply unfun when you just do not play with a medium. Defib is ruining the value of any picks (assassinations) that are made when the enemy team is stacked.

The fact that the defib'd person respawning becoming an object you cannot shoot through until they respawn has cause extreme amounts of displeasure for people in this game. Not only that, the indicator of when the person is actually shootable is incredibly misleading, giving the revived person the first shot every time due to the visual not matching the invulnerability timer. Why is the medium able to jump face first and defib and just hug the object created with no risk since we can't shoot the medium?

There is also no reason after I make a pick as a light if the enemy is stacked with a medium (which is the only way to play light since you are weaker and bring nothing else in a front to back teamfight), you reload and the enemy M has already revived their person and you can't even shoot the M due to the revived person being a large object until they are fully "revived".

We had C4 nukes in the game forever due to it being Embark's lovechild.
Defib is also a lovechild in this scenario that needs to go, it does not fit here unless there are some serious nerfs involved as it is BY FAR the best gadget without anything coming even remotely close to it.

[daring siren]

This just entirely wrong, the only correct thing said is that stun gun isn't necessary for kills

[frigid citrus]

The main two things I've had problems with since launch is the lack of an option to disable anti aliasing beause the ghosting and blur is really hard on my eyes, alongside the aggressive visual recoil. The actual recoil of most guns is completely fine, it's just the visuals that are annoying

[hard badger]

I agree bro!

[hollow dune]

Good night

[keen lily]

in the morning on EU power shift with crossplay enabled is pretty much the only active game mode

[cursive tide]

Bring back unranked tournament

[long pagoda]

The game is boring now, The game was fun while it was still being tested

[rare rock]

hey dude play some quick cash. i swear it'll be the most fun ever

[patent torrent]

Having stealth/active-camo/Invis duration greatly extended, keeping the use penalty, and adding movement speed (perhaps a modified-ms would be used later for balancing?) as a modifier penalty to how long it lasts, would significantly improve invis/stealth. You could have players stand still and use less charge, but be sitting ducks, even if standing still makes them a bit less easy to see with the untrained/unassisted eye. However, this also means that when they move f a s t, like by dashing onto a jump pad, using a grapple ability, dashing, and sprinting, it burns through it way quicker — ziplines and jump pads without dashing should probably only use as much as sprinting would, rather than as much as a grapple, though. "Aerial Faithplating" the jump pads would obviously burn through it the fastest, to the point that by the time you land you barely have any Invis left.
Standing still with Invis Bomb could as much as double its duration, helping someone hide in plain sight and have opportunity to heal a bit possibly, assuming they aren't on a moving platform — moving platforms add their momentum to the player, and player camera rotation would also add some measure of velocity to the modifier penalty number as well eventually, though that would need significant testing and limitations. Thoughts?

[mint lintel]

No you be good with the bomb and hide better, lord your m11 and wait for them to push or throw it and run cause they think your staying still, 5 seconds is long enough for me to reload my stun and weapon, that’s all you need

[upper dock]

Give players extra health if people want to leave the match 6 v 1 is stupidly unfair if my team mates leave I should at least get 100 more HP

[torn canyon]

Aight hot take: If you lose to a light as a medium with fcar, you must put on a clown outfit if you say light is op.

[tight verge]

honestly through all the noise and bad suggestions, this is one of the only ones I 100% agree with. Its just way too free to kill light players with that thing. literally zero skill. Its harder to kill mediums and heavies with it which kinda balances it out, but its just SOOOO easy to kill lights. This is why I think guns should do different ammounts of damage to different classes. adding more intricavy and control over the balance. And that could mean you can tune certain guns to counter strong classes or builds and over all have more control over the feel of the game. sure the DPS spreadsheet would get WAY more complecated but I think it would be a great thing for the game.

DAMN YOU YOU JINXED ME! THE VERY NEXT GAME I GOT A 3 STACK ALL RUNNING NADE LAUNCHER. DAMNIT lol. suuuch brainrot

[ripe herald]

So I just went 10 ranked tournaments consistently getting third partied while the other cash out was going and spawning across the map opposite of the cash outs. My team was has an average of twenty kills per round and we don’t qualify against teams with no more than eight because I can’t even reload my gun after killing a full team before I get annihilated *meanwhile the lower rank cashout is unbothered! What I’m I unaware of.

[broken lake]

or just buff light HP by 50 TBH. Would solve a LOT of issues. RPG against light, Light on Light TTK, Medium nade spam, mines, etc. (the list goes on)

It also wouldn't harm the decent balance between heavy and medium guns and TTKs that they have currently. (since as you say, the nade launcher is pretty balanced against those two classes)

[polar shell]

PLZ ADD a plasma (with emp effect) throwable (but make it rare-ish pls) barrel. EVENT: Bunnies bunnies hide and scurry around bite you in the ankles when you have your back turned and slow/small damage

[tawdry wadi]

❗Please replicate this until due attention is paid:

🔥 Add to game:

Global chat
Dm message to added friends
( Increase the social immersion of the game )

Return the ranking points
( To have a better idea that we are not stuck in the same place )

Deatchmatch Mode with smaller map
( Good for players to train gunfight and see which weapon is better, make casual players feel free to rank and etc... )

[west trellis]

Not sure exactly how this works with steam or if it's possible, but would really love the ability to gift multibucks!!

[frosty obsidian]

great feedback

[polar mesa]

I'm largely in favor of global chat, it would be nice to communicate and have a more social aspect to the game

[sturdy holly]

It would be great to have the option to buy individual items separately without having to purchase the entire bundles. Myself and quite a few people I know who play this game love the look of one or two items but don't want to fork out multiple bundles worth of money for a few items in separate bundles. Is there any consideration for making this an option? The full bundle could be cheaper than buying all the items separately which means there is still a point to want to buy the entire thing but I'm sure a lot more players would invest more towards the game if this was the case.

[quick coyote]

Embark, please, I am Plat 1 / Diamond 4 Max In Asia server, Every single game of ranked has cheaters, I am in a ranked game right now WIith 4 FUCKING cheaters in my game. 4 do you know how ridicolous that is? I have 380 hours on the finals, I have played FPS games for 12 years, I have never seen a more cheater infested server. DONTBOTHERMEEEE#3203, ReconShotgun#0103, NOIR#4890. The cheaters are now griefing. In the finals round they intentionally waste time. EU/ NA players please stop commenting it's not that bad, I have played on your servers I KNOW it's not bad for you, you barely have cheaters but Asia server is full on cheaters. Please Learn from other FPS games. Region ban China, Include phone verification, include Hardware bans so cheaters can't make a new account

[torpid garnet]

agreed, I'd spend alot more money on the game if I could buy items seperately

[broken lake]

potato launcher skin for the heavy GL, made of wooden baskets and bowls, with the drum being a bowl of water filled with peeled potatoes. (somehow magically held antigrav inside the barrel)

The inspect animation would be the heavy pulling out a potato, peeling it, and tossing it into the bowl

[brave tusk]

100% I'd probably have spent $20-40 more than I have on this game if they just let me piece out some items from bundles.

[river plover]

This tbh, unless they cook crazy in the upcoming update they should step over doing some strong ways to repel cheaters (honestly just airstrike their houses at this point)

[timber hazel]

Nothing, that just part of a battle Royal game but there are something you can do to get third party less.

Check the score board often, let’s say orange hold cash out A and you see purple team only has two member left, chance are they fighting orange at A so you either go third party them or go have a 3 v 3 at B. Make it quick, be aggressive otherwise the team that get wiped from A will spawn and come over to kill you.

When attacking and you respawn before the the other team, always be aware that they might come third party you

So try not to commit Too hard on killing the defending team
Yes, you should deal damage and apply pressure and even getting pick
But if you know there will be a third party

Getting in close and trade is a risky idea cause your medium will have a hard time to defiv you as well as wasting resource you might need in your second fight

Also try taking out the defending team first cause they’re the one that will have the least resource from defending against two attacking team

When defending
and you know there will be 2 or 3 team attacking you.
whatever you do, DONT GET SANDWICH BY TWO DIFFERENT TEAM

Rotate and sandwich one of the team instead. Don’t hug the cashbox

EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO LEAVE CASHBOX UNDEFENDED

It will be fine, if there’s two enemy team there, they will also indirectly help defend the cash box.

And even if they stole it.
As a diamond 1 last seasons and 3 currently

I rather let

Other team stole the cash box ((assuming you have time to retake) if it mean there’s only 1 team left I have to fight

[quaint badger]

let me see my mmr u weirdos

[thick sorrel]

I would prefer new maps over new modes. New modes means also split player base. Better improve existing modes, spawn times, location etc.

[nocturne osprey]

why do i kept getting kicked for running something disallowed on my system i literally opnly have didsocrd open iuts happened like 5 times and its really annoying - once there was a legit hacker in my game and i was the one who got kicked |:

[quick coyote]

Forget new maps new modes. They need to fix their Anti cheat, Ditch EAC contract some other Anti cheat, they need to add in Phone verification like overwatch, IP ban, Motherboard ban, Hardwarte MAC address ban anyone previously caught cheating. Asia server is cooked

[rough herald]

**APS: Proactivity and fck your projectile problem ** (Day 15 of asking)

Notes:
. to start off, i love the idea of the aps, the ability of being able to defend an area locking down a room is fun
. but its just unfair in some situation all because the "fck your projectile" part of APS.
for a weapon like the GL that shoot projectile you basically lose the fight automatically
. and for powershift its basically mandatory to win (that gamemode need a rework tbh)
. also seens we're talking about powershift, its basically impossible to destroy the aps not only because the wall but also the fact that it can be replace instantly due to no cooldown on destroy
. its also a one and done. meaning once you place it down it just stay there forever

Suggestion: what i want to see
. (fck your projectile) either make it so it take damage with each projectile destroy. Or it can only destroy 5 projectile then broke
. and also give it a 3 second activation time like the turret have
. cool down on destroy

Suggestion: what i would like to see but ok without
. (One and Done) make it lose hp overtime

(embark pls fix )

[quaint badger]

I just got disconnected from my game, it said the server had been timed out, tried reconnecting said the server was still timed out, finally let me reconnect and its stuck loading, my only options in the main lobby are to reconnect or leave game, its just updated back to normal randomly

there are so many little small things that are adding up which is really impacting the experience for an actual good fps title that isnt regurgitated shit for the first time in many years

for example earlier me and my friends where in a tournament game when in the middle of a fight we get disconnected and moved to a brand new game which had just started although we were already in one?

another problem as well which has been affecting the player base is hacking, since i came back to the game around a week ago i thought people were exaggerating about the hackers but its actually no joke at least 1/6 games you play someone is cheating, embark need to be more reactive about this as hacks are just a never ending battle

but even so with all these problems this games good so ima play it anyway, looking forward to thursday

[split oracle]

hey the finals, if you’re reading this please consider adding higher player level caps so the players of your game who have been playing throughout the seasons have a opportunity to work toward something and still complete their daily contracts (something that the xp could go to provides incentive for us players to still play actively!) btw i love this game lol

[wary storm]

exactly! i dont want new modes and weapons and maps, i want the game stable and working with less cheaters. the game isnt even balanced yet now there is now a different mode soooooo different to the current modes to now take into account for balancing. i want a video explaining ranked, balancing and how they are planning to address the cheaters, not on new modes.

[pseudo breach]

Current servers are literal trash compared to what they had in OB. My guess ia they downgraded to the cheapest shit they could find

[remote forum]

Greetings, dev team, i was on amongst your longtime fan, a beta contestant, my friend was one of your alpha contestants, we provided support before but want to ask if it would be possible to add a replay mode and system to capture the matches that have unfolded. This would be a great and beneficial opportunity for the community to share more creativity with how the artistic expression of the finals can be utilized in cinematic match moments. Thanks again for the great content so far and i have pushed other games aside just for this one. i believe in it to bring back everything we have missed with shooters. Now with your new mode coming up, i will be uninstalling R6. Thank you for also freeing space in my library XD.

[cunning cedar]

Gyro-Aim Improvements

• Gyro disable / enable button (ideally include the touch pad as an option please)
• "Player-Space" Gyro orientation
• Flick-Stick
• Acceleration options

[rough herald]

text chat

[hollow breach]

Please let us unbind the F12 key.

[slow crescent]

I have idea for rebalance Light class.
We have a problem, where light players in most games is useless or too strong with his "skill issue". in fact its actual problem in ranked. So, how we can fix this? We can change his position in team! Usually lights plays as a "dd" or "scout" class. Heavy is a "tank" + "dd" and Medium is a "Support" + "dd" class.

Now. what if we swap main positions in team for Medium and Light? Saying light have a less powerful weapons(nerf or rework his weapons for less impacts in fight), heal bombs, maybe give him some Medium gadgets(aps, reshaper) and same things. We need change his direction in game, where they focus on helping team and not kill opponents.

AND, what is important - we need change Medium from support to dd position. Its mean not upper they weapons or give him light class gadgets. Its probably means we focus on Medium how a basic "dd" class with powerfull gadgets how it was (for example jumpad, mines and granades) for fights

In result we have light "support + scout" class. We have Medium who focus on "dd" and less on "support" class. And we have Heavy in same "tank + dd class". Usual players no have ass on fire anymore and in ranked we NEED to use a light as a helper for team. AND(It is important) Light still class with "height skill - height reward" play stile.

I hope I was able to convey the meaning of the idea with my knowledge of English 😄

[quaint badger]

can we get a rank above dia like champion or elite idk

[reef jasper]

medium shotgun needs nerf very badly

[dusty mango]

We need compensation for playing against cheaters in ranked.
Maybe if someone you played against gets banned, recalculate that match/tournament as if the cheater team wasn't present. So if you got last in a round, after the cheater got banned you're only third (meaning you lost less from that match, so your rating is a little higher now). It'd still suck because playing against cheaters is not fun and you might have qualified if it wasn't for the cheaters, but at least it's something.
Take inspiration from how CSGO did it and see what would work for this game I guess.

[cloud jungle]

REMOVE MELEE AUTO-AIM

[rugged elm]

Since it’s already confirmed that heal beam will be disabled in Terminal Attack, wouldn’t it be balanced to have only two specializations available for each class? I would suggest that disabling mesh for heavy and cloak for light would make the game play a lot smoother with less one sided fights.

[azure ice]

Add bots to private matches. Therefore we can practice against them and be able to play private matches with less people. For example a group of 4 friends , since there is no game mode for that amount yet.

[smoky gust]

mesh would absolutely dominate and cloak would let you get damage in too easily, i agree with this

[quick coyote]

For. REAL. Stop with the steal the spotlight, power shift, this and that. Focus on the anti cheat first, then slowly ramp up marketing for season 3, Focus on detection tech, good Ranked visibility, focus on getting all the three classes at a good place. Then just focus on marketing, ONCE- YOU have 30-40K concurrent players then you can woo them with new game modes, fr you have it all backwards right now, your Japan tournament converted no players because THEY DONT WANT TO PLAY on Asia that is infested with cheaters

[floral prairie]

Great idea. But also allow us to 1v1. You should be able to play private matches with as little as 2 people and at max the most for the game mode your playing (so 10 for power shift)

[wary storm]

100% get the foundation right, get the game in a good place then market the hell out of it and push new modes and new modes in particular need to be planned and built so carefully, look at powershift as an example. People calling for sniper to be nerfed, when in ranked and the original modes, nobody even cares to use it. We need to work on stability, get the concurrent playerbase up, reduce the cheaters and then move forward. Feels like we are just papering over the cracks with new modes and not addressing the real issues. like how is the glitch when you can destroy mines with your kill cam still in the game after all these weeks but we are here nerfing characters and adding new modes. How long have we all asked for clairty on ranked progression and heard very little but get a video every week on new items. please sort out the fundamentals and slow down with dev elsewhere. We dont need weekly buffs/nerfs, LTMs shouldnt be a thing until a few seasons in. We love the game but i am losing so much paitence with the issues and cheaters and all of my friends that played have given up in the last few weeks

[quaint badger]

? it was game feedback, i was saying let me see my mmr in game

[quick coyote]

Good game balance. We need more maps and Also mini maps. Add cashout in practice range 1vs1 Max 3 vs3

[timber hazel]

You weren’t talking to me? You reply after my message.. my bad then. Ignore it. Ahh I see. Sorry ^^’

[thick sorrel]

Do you mean the high Damage of 128 which is super close to RPG combined with tight spread so you can snipe across the map?

[timber hazel]

Please don’t, we sacrifice our range and sustainability for those meat shot. Just play your distance better man :,3

[quick coyote]

here some idea to make The Finals imo better:

**you can add custom attachments on your weapon **

• maybe add custom scopes or mag sizes so you can put for example a red-dot sight with small mag size (like +5 bullets maybe) on your akm

this feature would make the already okay gun-game in the finals probally better and would make more fun to play with a maybe revolver with wth sniper scope lol

better voicechat/textchat

• many ppl are saying something like the voice chat is bad or not usuable and tbf i mst thats true maybe add a voicechat like valorant has
• maybe add the feature you can mute your teammates if they trashtalk you (this would help to have more fun in the game)
  -maybe add a textchat so you can if you wont talk with your mates you can simply write or you can also write wite with your enmys for example if someones cheating so you can team with them to defeat the cheater

better privat matches

• atm the privat matches are tbh not the best it would make them a lot better if you can start with 1 or 2 players for example you can do 1v1 with your friend
• add something like ghost mode maybe or infinite mag, abilitys and more (i got this idea also by valo xd)

better ranked-system
-atm is everyone crying cuz of the ranked-system maybe get the ranked back bc it was rly nice with the points and add the placement matches to this tbh this would be cool
-maybe do thhe matchmaking like
Bronze can q with Silver
Silver with either Bronze or Gold
Gold with either Silver or Plat
Plat with either Gold or Dia
so this means if you come as for example gold in a Silver lobby u will finde only golds and silvers this would be fair

skin ideas

• would be nice if we see the OSPUZE frag grenade, maybe for all weapons an good tier 8 skin and 2 pans for the defib

side note: im not saying anything about the cheaters at the moment because i wanna talk abt some other problems and not abt the normal once

hope u liked my feedback and i cant write more :/
-thanks

[vestal coral]

improved the mines, instead of 2 uses 1 use, there are too many people spamming mines everywhere, plus improved the hitbox they explode even if I don't touch them but I'm close to them, it happened to me that they explode even just looking at them 😂. Then remove the turrets as gadgets or nerf them a lot, again because they get spammed too much, sometimes there are so many turrets in an area that it becomes a frenzy. In short, too much spam with mines and turrets.

[rugged elm]

If games like CS with boatloads of money to spend can’t figure out a good anticheat system, then how do you think an indie company will fare? I know it’s an issue but it’s only a REAL issue because of the player count. If the player count is 100k+ the legit player to cheater ratio is a lot smaller. Because we have under 20k players, the legit player to cheater ratio is unproportionate. I think we just gotta let embark cook and do their thing because they are responsive enough to do the right thing before it’s too late.

[cobalt lava]

Different teams works on this…

[quick coyote]

NGL you cooking with this one, But still no amount of tournaments, marketing, streamers can help you if people (on asia) can't log in and play the game without being ass blasted by a lewis gun from spawn or wall hackers that have DMA interface pulled up

[quick coyote]

Grenade launcher too

[thick sorrel]

Yes, compensate with lower cooldown.
Having 2 is ok for non-lethal gadgets.
@cinder ridge I really wish that DEVs commits Gun-Play over Gadgets. That would fix a lot imbalance complains.

[cinder ridge]

Fr walked into a cash out yesterday and the building collapsed immediately bc a nuke went off. Then had random aps and turrets floating around on broken walls. So aids

[neat grotto]

very frustrating that the rank goes down when you play in a team with missing teammates 😦 in most cases you are def going to lose if you only have 2 players in the team against full teams of 3, so it feels unfair to reduce the rank in this case

[odd flax]

chinese is ruined the game especially asia server, they always work 2 team together, also the aimbot is getting insane right now, reporting player is useless, they wont getting banned till now, ban wave when ??

[humble temple]

no nerf is needed; only buffs. buff weapons, buff gadgets, buff specialisation (especially grappling hook), buff anti-cheat, buff player count, buff ads, buff everything.

[primal cedar]

Sir can u get them to manually ban the people display name are ( these are hackers btw in asia server) : glitchykatana , 91 , peerlesstree

[vestal coral]

Little kids who ask for buffs for everything otherwise they can't play or get a kill

[spark shard]

They don't want to fix the matchmaking for solo players.

I don't understand players with platinum playing as bronze. The only reason that I guess is what you are seeing is not true: you can think you are playing with platinum players in your team but in reality they have bronze or something.

[pale crane]

I play only light, other classes don't give me enough fun.
Since you lose 33% of the invisible bar every time you use it, and Light is always a biscotte, i stop the game. Peace

[grizzled canopy]

Day 25 of asking Embark for medieval bundles

[tranquil bolt]

embark pls pls PLS add a sorry emote i have a compulsive need to apologise PLEASE add a sorry emote and also pls consider adding a text chat bc we have way too little comm options rn

[celest pulsar]

do you by chance play valorant? riot's vanguard can sometimes trigger easy anticheat. try disabling it for a sec if you do play val.

[quick coyote]

This game is full of cheaters with aimbot, every *ucking match, especially lights with XP54. It's now in an unplayable state, it's not even fun anymore...

[coarse junco]

Fix when you clearly hit someone with a sword and it does no damage please

[fierce saffron]

Stealing 15 cash outs is really bumming me and my friends out. If it were a team collective to steal 15 cash outs that’s cool but we all argue/indecisive on who should steal. It’s taking the teamwork away from the game. Please consider changing it.

[violet wing]

@tranquil bolt embark pls pls PLS add a sorry emote
+1
@grizzled canopy Day 25 of asking Embark for medieval bundles
Bro, I swear, it's IMPOSSIBLE they don't already have those in the tubes for when it's appropriate (probably a season theme), just wait for a bit lol. My man wants to be clad in Iron so bad it's endearing.
@vestal coral Little kids who ask for buffs for everything otherwise they can't play or get a kill
I think his point is not what you think. He's probably saying that it's better to balance the game by buffing around OP items rather than nerfing the said OP items. Kinda like Top-Down vs BottomUp Approach. Which I think is a valid point and has been a balancing stand from casuals to pro players since forever.

[ebon peak]

Facts!!

[west ivy]

when easyanticheat will start to work?

[fresh elm]

please make ranked actually rank based. im gold 4 and last match i was against 4 platinums and 2 diamonds

[vestal coral]

It's very true that they catch you from absurd distances, and what's more they always know where you are.

[pallid jetty]

reposting a quick idea I shared earlier. #⚡┇the-finals-chat message

1. make ranked tournaments 3 rounds instead of 4

• faster matchmaking
• tighter skill gap
• more games happening

2. create regularly scheduled tournament timeslots with larger brackets and more rounds

• these start at predetermined times each day so everybody queues together
• exclusive reward for winning a scheduled tournament (incentive)
  (basically Rocket League's proven system)

[rose surge]

I quit after cloak was decimated as well. I had 300 hours in the game. Fuck it. The balance team sucks.

[unreal fossil]

@vestal coral @quick coyote

The XP54 is a hand-held laser beam without using any cheats. High DPS up to mid range, 30 rounds, red dot sight, almost no recoil. To me, it's the strongest Light weapon. With decent aim it's just insanely good in all situations aside from mid-long range fights where the LH1 truly shines.

Complaints about cheaters using this gun are more likely skill issues, unless you're seeing something obvious, like constantly hitting HS from insane ranges.

Most players I've faced recently seemed helpless in CQC against the XP54 + dash combo. I was literally running circles around them. And I'm not even that good at shooters.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, regarding Lights moaning about cloak nerf (unless they're speaking about Ranked): you're not as good as you thought you were, and this nerf revealed it to you.

[boreal sentinel]

New game mode idea: 5 Vs 5, Pong of war

Description: There will be 2 arcade machine with a mini-game of the classic "Pong" on the map. The arcade machine can be played by ONE player and each arcade can be manned from all players ofthe same team. However. each arcade machine resembles for their own team only.

Objective: Each team has to defeat the other team by winning the pong game by playing the arcade machine itself. 1 score equals to 100 dollars ( or whatever value is better ). Each team has to protect their pong player while the pong player has to win the pong game AND/OR infiltrate the other team's arcade machine area and prevent them from playing their arcade so that your team can win easily.

Balancing issues: If a teammate is trolling or purposely losing, the gas is most very likely the solution.

[lofty crypt]

a bug

[sleek swan]

Random thought I had during the Easter LTD event:

Instead of fixed loadouts, do completely randomized loadouts for each class, forcing people to get more creative and learn the ins and outs of their weapons the hard way

Or, have certain training areas for specific weapons so that they can learn more about them and maybe be able to do a lot more with them. Get them to know what they excel at and what they falter with

[vestal coral]

in every single game there are cheaters, afk, people who don't know how to play as a team, people quitting the game, game crashes, garbage servers. This game has become garbage like every pvp game in existence because of shitty players. It's not possible for every single match to be frustrating.

[celest pulsar]

ty for the feedback

[mortal shale]

Embark removed friendly fire collision and it was widely seen as a net positive. All that did was allow players to fire through a friendly, whereas before a teammate could accidentally block your shot or gadget.

So it totally blows my mind when I come to find out that goo gun can not only still impact teammates, but it can also be used to troll and grief, your team.

This has happened to me multiple times over the last few days where I, an MGL-32 player who normally is not able to post very much damage or kills simply because embark has forsaken my weapon of choice, am met with trolling because the players believe I'm not pulling my weight.

Say what you want about my skill level but they removed the rest of the friendly fire impact and that stuff was way less intrusive than this.

[shy token]

Add the ability to buy individual items from store packs (by @shy token and @radiant imp)

What we propose is that the option to buy individual items is made available to not only increase sales of cosmetics but also satisfaction with customisation within and with the game itself.

You could still make it viable by using a method of (i.e pack multibucks cost ÷ items in bundle = individual price) this would allow a lot of people to pick and choose what they want to customise their character with, in a game with as much customsation as this already has, it just makes sense.

It would also give you a metric on what items are most popular and which aren't and invest more time and energy into making similar items perhaps to maximise capital.```

[proven ibex]

Please fix this... it's very annoying (sply in ranked)

[willow jewel]

Make the Light Sniper deal 65 (adjustable) damage max at close range, a sniper shouldn't work at all ranges

[drifting gorge]

Bro 💀💀💀

Your name suits you

[teal marsh]

toggles for practice range dummies. Turning moving ones from M to L or H, turning stationary ones to M or L or H, and options to increase their movement speed from ADS to no-ads to sprinting. Would be really nice for projectile weapons practice to get an idea for how far ahead you may need to aim. And just in general, sometimes you need a little warm up and it would be nice to calibrate for in-reality movement speeds rather than just the slowest one

[misty jasper]

I’m starting to think every light complaining about invis just wants an invis crutch to rely on so they don’t die. I played light in ranked seriously first the very first time yesterday w a 3 stack plat. We fought other plats and diamonds etc. We ended w 2 wins, 2 final rounds, a round 3, and a round 2. Best gameplay I’ve ever had w light playing with invis. I was able to survive my fights because why? I stuck with my heavy and medium.. stop always playing invis like an assassin and play the game as a team. Obv you can get easy picks as light, but if you’re always going for the 1v1, 1v2, 1v3, you will not have backup.. stick with your team.

And PLEASE just try learning movement tech. When my invis ran out, I could escape 8/10 times by just outrunning ppl. You are also literally invisible. Don’t start fights when you are in a bad position. WHY WOULD YOU GO UNINVIS WHEN YOURE IN FRONT OF 3 MEDS

[lilac coral]

You stop playing because you can’t be invisible hahahaha 100% skill issue

[pale crane]

Can't invi, playing daggers, what you want more, turning around on 3 mods with nerfed light is not fun enough

[hollow valve]

Yes, the first idea is very interesting. In Sandstorm: Insurgency, every attachment worths some particular points. And the points cost of all of your load out combined can not exceed an upper limit. Since the finals is random spread, there could be recoil control attachment (horizontal or vertical or both), accuracy improving attachment, or an under barrel attachment.
And this could apply to the gadgets as well. All gadgets points combined can not exceed a limit. Devs can assign different points to gadgets according to their usefulness. Then there wouldn't be some overpowered load outs in the game.

[quick coyote]

yeah i got this idea by the minevraft weapon mod timeless and classics gun mod and i rly would like to see this feature in my fav game

[radiant imp]

Add the ability to buy individual items from store packs (by @shy token and @radiant imp)

What we propose is that the option to buy individual items is made available to not only increase sales of cosmetics but also satisfaction with customisation within and with the game itself.

You could still make it viable by using a method of (i.e pack multibucks cost ÷ items in bundle = individual price) this would allow a lot of people to pick and choose what they want to customise their character with, in a game with as much customsation as this already has, it just makes sense.

It would also give you a metric on what items are most popular and which aren't and invest more time and energy into making similar items perhaps to maximise capital.```

[hollow valve]

The second idea is very promising, it's like an in-game event, you can even earn unique outfits or souvenirs in the end if you have achieved something in the tournaments. As you said, it's like rocket league or Trackmania(And this could generate lots of heat and topics to talk about, just look at the YouTube channel of Wirtual).
What's more, the tournaments can be associated with in-game lore. Such as different brands fight each other, or some in-game events to reveal the next season or story developments. And players' actions have impact to the lore development. It's like a game that is shaped by the players, like HellDivers. Actually I feel this is how the game is supposed to be played or designed.

[plucky parrot]

Keep nerfing light, dead game

[hazy shore]

bruh look at Comp at Plat and above. it's 99% heavys and meds

[glossy scaffold]

Nerf damage on sword alternate attack, 140 is too much

[quick coyote]

Invisibility is the least of the problems, as far as I'm concerned. The cloak has a fairly recognizable sound when someone is nearby, unless you are surrounded by gunfire and explosions drowning out that sound, which is natural

Insane range? and where is it written that those who use the aimbot necessarily use it from long distances?

[willow jewel]

no? It’s one of the hardest weapons to use in the entire game that gets killed at any other range other than point blank, you suck if you’re genuinely dying to sword, not to mention how bad swords hitreg is

[rough herald]

all weapon attachment but need 10,000 kills on said weapon to unlock

[solar cradle]

where are you getting under 20k players ?

[unreal fossil]

Well, there is no realistic way to satisfy you and players like you. You only play one class out of three, one spec out of three and one weapon out of ten in said class. That's one single very specific/niche and solitary gameplay in a sandbox/teamplay game. If invis/dagger was the only satisfying thing you found in a game like The Finals that has so much more to offer, then you've never really enjoyed the game as a whole in the first place. So of course you're leaving as soon as your only loadout gets a nerf.

It will sound offensive, but to me, the feedback from "X class main" players who play the same exact loadout every game, refuse to learn other classes/loadouts, refuse to adapt to any changes, is irrelevant.

You're not having fun anymore, fine. Is the game still fun ? Yes, when played as intended: together with your team, trying to make the best use of all classes, weapons and gadgets, and adapting your gameplay to the maps/opposing teams.

TL;DR: if you don't like adapting, then you don't really like The Finals.

@quick coyote : they don't necessarily use it from long distances, but this is where aimbots will be the most obvious. Anyone who's played with all weapons has an idea of what each weapon can or cannot realistically do. For instance, the horizontal recoil pattern of the Lewis makes it 100% impossible to repeatedly hit long range headshots, so if it happens, you know for sure that player is cheating.

In the case of the XP54, as I said, it's a hand-held laser beam in close to mid range fights, very high DPS, excellent sight picture with the red dot, minimal recoil. Some kills I got with it were insane and would very easily make anyone suspect cheating. It is that good. Doesn't mean that there aren't any cheaters using it, of course.

@willow jewel "you suck if you're genuinely dying to sword" 😂 Bro I won't pretend it's an easy weapon to use, but it's not an easy weapon to counter either if played right.

[true yarrow]

Is it just me or the mines are very inconsistent when they go off? Many times enemy runs over and nothing happened. Same with turret. When I have it deployed it does not even start shoothin but when enemy has it somehow it start shooting me across the street 😀

[tropic sequoia]

I cant find ranked matches, not even on saturday and sunday evenings (EU) and it is very frustrating.... I'm still in my placement matches (4/8) because I didnt play ranked at the start of the season, but now I cant find matches after queuing 15 minutes. Maybe put less players in 1 Tournament so it only has 3 rounds

[arctic bramble]

hello embark, please fix performance in game: ryzen cpu 30 series’s gpu, thank you.

[rugged elm]

Concurrent on steam?

[merry holly]

Is anybody having trouble opening the game after easy anticheat finishes loading? It doesn't attempt to launch the game before giving me an UE5 error page, saying "MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK".

I've uninstalled/reinstalled the game on two separate drives, restarted my pc, checked gpu driver/bios updates, and verified game integrity. Even going into Windows files and deleting my saved configurations doesn't fix it, however, it did open the actual Discovery.exe program before freezing while loading into the game.

Is there literally anything I can do to fix this issue?

[plush cloak]

I honestly love this game so much is just that balancing has been so off. Light class as a whole is cheesy. It should be high skill high reward. As of rn stun gun crutch is wild. Mediums got nerfed into the ground almost but its still playable. Heavy was kind of respectably nerfed but still playable. Thats just my opinion light is so easy it barely takes skill. but other than that my only issue is hacking. Ive been hacked on 7 times in ranked in the last 3 days. Does the anti-cheat not flag 35 headshots back to back like bro. My experience with every cheater has been identical its like they are using the same thing. One more thing please realease a deathmatch every game being an objective kinda sucks. sometimes you just want violence not an obj that requires you to third party with no skill just sayin.

[mild birch]

I have a suggestion for a quality of life change for queuing. The game paladins has a function where when you go to queue for a match, you select the game modes you want and it gives you one at random based on the ones you checked. I think the finals would benefit from this now that we have 4 permanent modes, soon to be 5.

[smoky gust]

an arena gamemode might be cool

2 teams of 3-4 people
1 coin per round
a wipe while the enemy doesn't have coins wins the round
after x seconds, a cashout in the middle unlocks that will win the round upon capture (to prevent camping)

best of 3 wins

here's the catch
after each round, the class you played gets locked and cant be used anymore
does the whole team go light so they can brute force the other 2 rounds?
do they always keep a light around for utility?

might be an interesting concept to pursuit

[glossy scaffold]

??? You have to click like 2 buttons to use it, youre hard to hit cause you can spam dash and it does as much damage as a full rpg, how is that fair??

[pseudo latch]

Day 48 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this is a commitment
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[novel zephyr]

The contract for depositing 150,000 cash in any game mode I think is a pretty difficult and tedious one. I barely play any cash modes since I like to focus on Powershift. And 150K seems way too high, at least on Bank It only your individual contribution counts, not the teams. So if every game I on average can bank 5K, then I need to play around 30 games to complete it.

Most other contracts can be finished in 5 games or less, while this one is way out of proportion in time commitment.

PLEASE RETHINK THIS CONTRACT. Thank you.

[spark shard]

In a way, share the roadmap. I'm not saying to disclose details that could give an advantage to competitors, but rather to give glimpses of certain aspects that are being improved or dropping hints about new things to come. It would be good if these were communicated in a very humanized way, perhaps through videos where we can see you yourselves.

For example: we're enhancing the anti-cheat system, we know you're very frustrated with this issue, and that's why we're introducing certain improvements; it's not trivial, blah blah blah... Do it in a 'human' way so we can understand you and so you can understand us.

Creating transparency in the things you're working on and showing that you're aware of the problems and challenges you face helps to reduce the frustration level within the community.

[pseudo breach]

FIX THE FUCKTRASH HIT REGISTRATION! FFS

[unreal fossil]

I would be curious to see what would happen if Light class could regen health, revive, and steal cashouts quicker than the other two classes. Either as intrinsic abilities, or granted by a dedicated spec.

This would likely make the Light class more teamplay/objective oriented, and a more desirable choice in Ranked where revives and quick steals are so important.

It wouldn't necessarily be broken/OP, because revives and steals both require the player to stay still and unable to defend himself, making him an easy target to kill, even easier with only 150 hp.

Making it a dedicated spec could balance it further, as Lights who choose it wouldn't be able to go invis or dash, making them more vulnerable to enemy fire. So they could technically steal fast, but not with proper support from their team.

[fast kettle]

play cashout, after the first two 10k vaults it's 15k or 22k in overtime, so it stacks up pretty quickly

also I think that one counts cashouts your team does

[west kite]

Feedback for ranked:

• Tournament rounds should consist of 3 rounds, not 4. The 3rd round should be the championship round.

• Players need to see a metric for how they are ranking up and individual performance needs to be incentivized. I’m not saying individual performance should be significantly incentivized. Winning should always be the primary priority. But combat score, objective score and support score need to be incentivized. The way it stands now, it doesn’t matter if you get 100 kills and win a tournament or 1 kill and win a tournament, you rank up the same. This should not be the case. (Just using kills as an example)

• It would be a nice feature for maps to be on a timer for when the next ranked map so you know what map you are playing on. Certain maps I play on significantly more than others it feels like.

QoL features/ things I would like added:

-Add banners and stats on the banners. Apex legends does this and I think it adds a more personal layer to the game. Let players display their rank badges, how many kills they have on a flamethrower, FCAR, etc. This may take some time, but I think it would be a nice feature to add.

-Let us have different color options for the same piece of clothes or let us be able to turn a hat backwards on your head for example to help give more variety.

-Audio bug still exists (lowers volume levels of people’s PC’s when certain mics are used). The temporary fix I found for this was to enable voice chat and put on push talk if you don’t want to have an open mic. My friends in game chat and/or discord noticed my mic was dropping to almost dead silent in the middle of our matches.

-Hit Registration needs work and is inconsistent

• We need more modes! I know a 5v5 mode is coming on Thursday. But TDM, Domination, Capture the Flag, Search and Destroy, etc, etc would be fun and I think would attract more players. Just throwing out ideas…

[noble solar]

fix the game crashing and add text chats.

[solar cradle]

yeah there's cross play and a lot of console players. most of my lobbies are at least half console. more than just pc out there

[lilac coral]

People have being asking text chat since the beginning of the finals

[thick kite]

Could reduce flame amount by a little

[rugged elm]

They are literally nerfing stun and nerfing cloak again

[rough herald]

i love this

[verbal smelt]

Add a way to see our previous game in spectator mode on the one hand see our game and our mistakes in order to improve and also to be able to see the point of view of the enemies notament to see if they cheat or not with an aimbot, it will facilitate postponements and banishment I think

[smoky gust]

id like to suggest a rework that could make the revolver a little more interesting

let it deploy faster
increase rate of fire (maybe as fast as you can click?)
give it way smaller hipfire
and a slightly faster reload

in return nerf its damage (so you cant 1 mag a light unless you hit some headshots)

it would make it better as a quick self defense gun, that you can pull out and mag dump someone with
you will most likely need to reload in a fight, so it could bring an interesting risk reward dynamic, especially because of its now very burst heavy nature
(am i good enough to handle recoil and aim, to the point where reloading once wont be an issue?)

it would also get us closer to the wild-west sheriff feeling

(not certain if this works as it may be too weak against heavies or too strong against lights but i think this may be an interesting idea)

[vestal coral]

create matchmaking based on the peripheral used.

[unreal fossil]

Or alternatively, a Light spec that grants quicker regen/quicker revive and the ability to steal cashouts from a longer distance (at a normal speed, or slower speed, maybe based on distance), like some kind of wireless hacking steal.

If too strong as is, it could be balanced by giving off visual and/or sound cues to locate the Light performing the hack.

This could be strong with proper team support, and force enemies to stay on their toes at all times.

What do you think ?

[still yoke]

Castle map,midevil weapons for all classes and midevil skins and weapon skins and the castle map could be called ruins

[sudden spire]

Please add more punishment for leavers. So many of my games have rage quitters and leaving basically guaranties a lose for the players that stay in the game

[viral cipher]

i love this game but the balancing is terrible. Nobody ever plays light in ranked because its so BAD. Its literally unplayable.
And now cloak and stun are nerfed too, whats even the point of this class.

What about removing the stun and replacing with a different gadget all together, e.g. like how recon was removed for medium.
The problem with the stun is its a "frustrating" gadget, and when ppl get killed by things like that they get put off the game.

So if the focus was to remove the annoying stuff from the game, i think everybody would be a lot happier.

[smoky gust]

regen health, not bad
revive, maybe
stealing, absolutely not please
(same with longer range)

6 seconds is already pretty fast
if it was any shorter then it would make it way easier to just throw random stuff hoping it occupies the enemy for long enough
and outside of that
imagine you hear the cashout being stolen, think "i can make it" run over and just when you burst through the door its already done
frustrating
and this would make it way more likely to happen
even if it had a different noise
and you don't even know if an enemy is running it until they start stealing
you are basically forced to gamble if the enemy has it or not and where to position yourself or what plays to make

and on the lights side
they cannot run grapple, dash or cloak
sure it may make it balanced but it would probably be horrible to play
and if its a gadget instead it would probably be a must use item because its so strong

lastly, throw on and forget items are pretty boring (and might screw up balance in unintended ways)

something else needs to happen to make light viable in ranked
because if it were this everybody looses, please don't

[misty jasper]

“Nobody” is an exaggeration. I played it in plat lobby. It was great. Used invis perfectly fine and we won 2 games, got to final round in another and got to 2 more round 3’s. It is not unplayable. People just don’t know how to play it

[drifting pawn]

+1. have been at least $30 worth of single items I would buy but would not buy their full bundles

[tribal olive]

this is wild balencing but a neat idea

[faint panther]

Can we get some crocs in to the game?

[visual anvil]

"How to lets people know u dont know how to run the game"
do what embark did

[wind gulch]

I like the idea of reworking stun into a knockback blast ala Lucio's alt fire. Still serves the purpose of disrupting steals / rezzes and breaking up coordinated attacks, still offers chances for instant kills via knocking people off map edges, but exchanges the frustrations of having control taken away from you for something fun that leaves at least a little room for counterplay. It's not that I can't win the Stun-v-One with hipfire, it's that it's not fun to do so.

[lilac coral]

It’s a good idea but it would be a lil op and In the end they would probly just nerf it into the ground

[pseudo latch]

I mean the idea is that it isn’t blatantly OP. It’s a lead-hose, but 220 DPS is literally on-par with other guns in heavies loadout, and those guns don’t struggle with things like hipfire-only, massive spread, spool up time, being stuck walking, list continues. @lilac coral

[grizzled hornet]

Yap gif

[deep egret]

My personal opinion: flamethrower is broken with respect to the low skill level required to run it. Change my mind.
I'd lower the range to make it more tricky imho.

[swift gust]

and also that stupid thing shoots through walls. If you are holding one floor up then that heavy can shoot you directly from below without line of sight

[unreal fossil]

WhAt'S eVeN tHe PoInT oF tHiS cLaSs iT's UnPlAyAbLe dUuhhh

Always the same complaints...

Just ask the diamond Light I played with the other day. LMH team comp, 3/3 tournament wins, he got ~40 kills/3:1 to 4:1 KDR each time, so about 10 kills per game on average, with XP54/invis/stun gun/portal. He made a lot of impact in games not because of his KDR, but because of his clever use of portals to carry the vault quickly and take flanks on enemy teams. It's not unplayable, but it requires more skill to play, that's for sure.

@smoky gust Well, maybe quicker steal is not good. But I think the 'cashout hack' idea could work, and shift the way games are played. There are tons of parameters to adjust how easy/hard it would be to pull off, or counter:

• Distance from where the hacking device can be used ?
• Time it takes to complete a steal vs. a normal steal ?
• Mandatory LoS on the cashbox to perform a steal ?
• Delay to switch the device on and off ?
• Specific visual/sound cue warning ?
• Cooldown in case of interrupted hack ?

The idea would be that a Light player running that spec would provide his team an option to steal cashouts from a safer distance, but would not be able to perform it easily without support.

While using the device, he would be a stationary 150hp target that's unable to fight back. If he needs to stay still for 10-12 seconds, with a small delay to cancel/switch back to his gun, and maybe visual/sound cues progressively giving away his position, it means it can only be done if his team mates protect him. Not using invis/dash but being granted quicker regen on top of that sounds like a decent tradeoff. The Light using this spec would have to stick closer to his team for protection.

Now, what if the team attempting to hack just sits behind barricades/shields ? --> Glitch grenade, instant disable.

You could have two more reasons to pick Light: access to this spec and to its most efficient counter.

[timber sage]

how tf did this get through in roblox? i know they're something you can type on an emoji keyboard, but still

[grizzled hornet]

Yap yap yap yap yap yap yap gif

[keen lily]

I'm 100% sure the ranked is broken, just had a streak of like 10 games in plat 2 where I reached the finals in every tournament, won 2 of them and got no plat 1 lol

[dry raft]

I'm a light main and I'm P1 (very close to diamond)
Light is really strong but it need ajustements. If you remove stun-gun/cloak and portal, light is 100% useless

[west kite]

No one asked you to John

[woven fossil]

If you guys think stun gun is bad, imagine if you could manually reload it, build defenses with it, get even MORE mobility, and be able to miss dozens of shots and still freeze someone instantly. I see people dog piling stun, but once people start to realize just how annoying goo gun really is, you guys will finally leave light alone. You can even still fight back when stunned! Can you do that while stuck in goo while your opponent keeps shooting your feet? It also give similar if not better mobility than light, which goes completely against the whole point of heavy, while adding defensive capabilities as well as offensive.

[worn epoch]

Has there been any mention of a fix for game chat on Xbox

[sage vector]

It is broken indeed
I get to round 3 with more or less good contribution and stats and yet I get 1 arrow down
I don't know what devs are smoking but they definitely ruined the ranking system with their ''brilliant innovations''
Genuinely getting tired of this bs
Just a waste of time

[solar cradle]

10 seconds is too long to have the healing start and then have the amount of time it takes for it to fill up. You should have heavy fill the fastest and light fill the slowest (the same amount of time to fill each character ) and that should be 10 seconds.

sniper rifle rate of fire a bit too high

[hollow valve]

It's a BattleBit trolling sight, not Roblox.

[versed obsidian]

make the sound expression as Cashout noises instead, as i do not see alot of people using the sounds and it could be nice to have those on the cashouts instead

[smoky gust]

i highly recommend forcing LoS, no matter what we do
otherwise you would need to run around like a headless chicken looking for them
or you have to use explosives, and you're just done if you don't have any on hand (or need to destroy your cover if you do have them)

if we want lights to mess with cashouts somehow to help the team here's an idea:

a gadget that lets you move the cashout as if it were a canister
you could pick it up and move it somewhere in the open to make defending easier
take it inside if you want cqc
take it to the attic where its harder to reach
throw it off of moving platforms
perhaps even pick it up and run away from enemies to stall

however 2 major caveats:
1: you need to hold pick up for several seconds if it is currently being stolen
(to prevent it from cheesing steals, unlike stun which can at least be countered and needs to be aimed)
2: it has limited duration
(so you don't just continuously run off and stall)

i personally think the game needs more variable cashout locations and this would offer exactly that
it would make the game more interesting while also requiring map knowledge and strategic thinking to make use of it
how does that sound?

[fervent vortex]

Honestly all classes besides medium are in line with each other right now, medium is still strong and in double medium is decent in fights but since the meta is lmh right now medium is kinda the victim class, all things considered no classes need buffs maybe just tune down the aids meta of lh1 and sa since it’s been that shit since season 1 @rose surge in casual play yes because most casual players can’t play the role, however in comp light is hard meta, breakout just ended and my team which came first ran lmh, the light dif decides most games

[vestal coral]

the matches are too random due to spam of mines, turrets and noob friendly gadgets. This game doesn't reward skill at all but almost only luck.

[broken lake]

if you have that much issue with sword users, run flamethrower or the sledgehammer. You will actually trivialize them.

or just spam shoot with lewis hipfire and try and track the dashes. It's really fucking easy on heavy, because dash is super linear. Just think in three dimensions. The light will go in a straight line.

Both as someone who uses sword and always is able to shut down sword users on other classes, it's not hard to track, dash is horrid and linear.

It's fair that it does the damage it does because you're playing as a class with less than half the health, and have to close a signifigant gap against a person who can melt you in under a second with exclusively bodyshots.

It also has a very precise hitbox, unlike RPG, which will take half a light's health by aiming in their general direction.

EDIT: then it is a testament to how easy heavy is that you are in diamond 1.

also, you could run charge and slam instead of the mesh shield. It would mean you can literally press 1 button and take over 90% of the light's health. The hitbox is completely unavoidable at point blank ranges for a light, with little to no actual sign that it's about to start, and the AOE is almost impossible to dodge out of when you're at sword range.

EDIT 2: you cannot seriously be talking about braindead gameplay giving you more power while you're playing heavy. You cannot genuinely be pretending that fucking SWORD LIGHT, gives you more utility than ANY other class.

More power than medium Fcar with healbeam, More powerful than a full lewis shield heavy. More impactful to YOUR team is the guy with the health of a mosquito, getting one kill and then dying nearly immediately.

And not even a high skilled one. Apparently.

hey, you could also just run explosive mines! A light sword literally cannot remove them without losing over 90% of their health, because the fucking things have 50 HP, meaning that even if they run tracking dart, there's no way to remove them.

[rose surge]

Are you shitting me? Light is not meta right now... After the cloak nerf, light is garbage. @ebon tendon The nerf was absolutely breaking to the ability. I was a cloak main and it completely destroyed the playstyle. One of the biggest benefits of cloak was its ability to help lights get out of a sticky situation. The problem is that a single shot will knock light out of cloak and then you have to spend 33% of the ability to go back in. It's not possible to do matrix dodging unless you're a hacker. I don't think you realize how much the nerf was... It went from a 14% penalty to a 33% penalty, that's more than DOUBLE the original rate. That's just insanity. It's not a nerf, it's mf'ing scorched earth.

[ebon tendon]

I've seen more lights in the past week than I have in a long time. The nerf isnt that bad- you're just not adjusted to it. I've had lights running the cloak and they still top frag- its all on the user tbh

[glossy scaffold]

Dude im diamond 1, ik my tracking is not the problem, what im complaining about is the damage, it makes no sense how it does that much damage that quickly + if the light has a good healer theres nothing you can do, theres no way i run flame thrower cause it sucks, sledge is worse, the only counter ive found is sa12 and it only works if you can 1 mag them. The amount of impact a sht light sword dash can have is much higher than the one that same player can have on any other class just because of the damage. The amount of damage it can output vs the skill needed to use it is disproportionate.

[elder basin]

Fix the ranked games. People can leave and you get penalized now because you can't leave after without penalty. I just started a match with only 1 teammate! wtf?

[sonic spoke]

Agree

[viral cipher]

out of the top 100 players something like 1 plays light - i remember reading that somewhere dont quote me on it.

i personally play very well with light but when you have 2 easy to play classes, it doesn't balance well at all.
its much more valuable to the team to have a medium or heavy over a light, so clearly light is unbalanced

if you're great with light, you would probably be greater with medium

[drifting gorge]

Okay I don't know what this means but the Sigma Order always prevails

[spiral lava]

HEY EMBARK! Hi pls add more options (customable)to the private lobby like: teams 2v2v2 4v4+party practice.. if it possible and host or mates can swap between teams.( add killcam to game....) THX

[woven fossil]

This has GOTTA be bait 😭

[rich oasis]

fix your anti cheat! one round - two teams cheating like wtf? not even trying to hide, 20k dmg.. really enjoyable experience

[icy kestrel]

My matchmaking experience is miserable atm....

[crystal umbra]

🔥Couple more suggestions for my favorite devs🔥

In the social tab, make a "recent teammates section" last dude I played with was buried in the recentd tab

Adding him from the gameplay summary (after match pressing the x button) section did not work. Please fix.

Create full cosmetic sets to incentivize team work
Example: create a badass medic set that you can only unlock incrementally by performing revives
-i emphasize badass set of cosmetics so that people want to ground out a golden defibrillator at the end or something.
Badges, medic pants/shirts, surgical mask, scalpel skin for the light dagger. Anything that we can grind out and incentivize team work even more.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

[vestal coral]

yet another game with players disconnecting. But can you explain to me at this rate how I can move up the ranks? I had reached gold 1, and was just close to platinum playing solo. Now with all the people logging out I'm down to Gold Level 3, what the fuck is going on? plus I have to stay in the game and not be able to do anything because if I go out I get penalties. However, you have created a vomiting ranked system.

[tulip dove]

win more games and use lfg

[next topaz]

they already could make even simple ingame anti-cheat system
like when somebody makes 10-15 kills in a row or if player has 99% of hits then just block them

[sleek pilot]

Game is still in early-ish stages where embark are trying to focus on drawing new player’s attention and adding new content to make it appealing. As of right now the game is very casual-oriented, but ranked fixes will definitely be coming because people won’t shut up abt how bad it is. I’m sure they’re aware.
Focus on the casual for now (fucking around w friends is some of the most fun in this game imo), and the ranked grind can come later once improvements are made :) just my thoughts

[unreal fossil]

I like the idea, but I think that gadget shouldn't turn the cashout into a carriable object. It should make it levitate slightly above the ground, and allow any player to push it into any direction with quick melee. This would only work for a given duration and only on active cashouts (in order to avoid teams moving the cashouts before vaults are inside...).

@viral cipher good point, but saying Light has less value to the team than the other two classes is vastly different from calling it unplayable, which is what I read here several times a day.

@sleek pilot I agree with your point of view. 💯

[icy kestrel]

Same frustrating ranked experience here:

Being Plat 2/1: Literally getting matched against full Diamond/Plat1 teams with Gold / low Plat teammates....every......damn......game........This makes the game so frustrating. And no im not playing with premades, i play soloq.

And the number of games where i have someone or even BOTH disconnecting is infuriating.

I have made so many screenshots of this its not even funny.

I truly love this game, sinking 270+ hours into it while being in my 30´s but.... man.....this is something else....

[delicate pawn]

i feel like they should try adding an arcade like mode with previous or modes they can test out balance adjustments for feedback

[stoic fox]

This is a cool idea, first I heard this concept

[willow leaf]

Remove medium

[acoustic storm]

please remove the minimum damage on explosions for self damage. It is just extremely annoying and makes no sense

[cedar ferry]

Hi

[spring valley]

I don't know if this was part of a future idea, but for private matches, could there be allowed to have just 2 people in a private matches (a friend of mine would like to practice without all the chaos and such so I could teach them, but i thought private would allow 2 players as I wanted to let them get a better feel for the game without that chaos - no idea if that makes sense haha)

[elder flare]

light snipers ruin powershift. they spawn, walk 5m and then snipe you across the map. So you gotta spend a whole minute getting to that bastard to kill him and then he just respawns and does it again within 10 seconds. Sitting on the point without a heavy? woops guess you'll get hit for free.

[coarse junco]

Fix when you clearly hit someone with a sword and it does no damage please

Nd matchmaking

[dapper stirrup]

Can the steal cashout challenge count when a teamate steals a cashout? I can communicate with my teamates but half the time they also need it. No reason to compete with teamates

[vestal coral]

usual ignorant and stupid response from a fanboy who doesn't understand anything.

[last swift]

I agree, add bullet drop or something they don’t miss. If you’re on the platform you can’t even sit still for 2 seconds trying to defend and shoot attackers or you’ll get sniped

[pseudo breach]

Day 34 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

[ocean plover]

embark should add in a new gadget, medsticks or something it would be nice having the ability to self heal besides waiting for auto regen or a team-mate especially if your in a tough fight and need to heal. maybe it could take up one gadget or a "main gadget"? (I don't know what they are called). would be nice

[tulip dove]

lol what are yapping about bro, **YOU **are the one who asked how do you rank up 😂
if you lfg you won't have the issue you're having with people leaving, its that simple

[smoky gust]

i think that would defeat a big part of its purpose

it would be way harder to maneuver (and maybe even straight up impossible to throw it out of a window for example)
taking it up a floor would also not be possible
and it would make it way more abusable to stall steals which is exactly something i wanted to avoid

[drifting gorge]

OK, GENUINE GAME SUGGESTION GUYS

THE TOPIC: consider adding Ruby as a rank in between Platinum and Diamond

WHY: A lot of Platinum players are still straight up bad. I say let them stay there and not only make ranked longer so people play longer, but have awesome Ruby skins and reserve Diamond for the best of the best. Ruby skins would be awesome, and it looks like there were already concepts for it in the game. Take a look at this old picture:

[willow leaf]

Remove medium

[topaz seal]

"for the best of the best", you realize there is a leaderboard? Or is it that you just don't want people to get the same rewards as you do?

[toxic sedge]

would you consider looking at being able to charge melee attack from cloak? when everyone in the lobby practically is playing cloak melee light it gets quite tiresome, altho i only play medium so im not really helping myself either ig

[round lagoon]

20 minute ranked queue on Xbox w full squad on NAW servers

[woeful path]

FIX LEVEL 5 AND LEVEL 6 WEAPON SKINS. THEY DO NOT WORK . FIX LEVEL 5 AND LEVEL 6 WEAPON SKINS.

[teal carbon]

I think they should add a bow that does more damage the farther you go from a target. And since the reload would be unused, it can be used as a ammo type change button for different kinds of arrows such as explosive (main effectiveness for structural clearence), gas, smoke, or fire. It would a good tool for team play and rewarding weapon for playing certain ways. Perfect for the light class that has to play more distant from the main battle

[golden wing]

@frozen solstice wtf is this

[slim sun]

creator mode when ? i want to create my maps

[icy kestrel]

Jep, exactly my experience

[surreal meadow]

arent duos/trios in ranked like copying the highest person theyre queing with?

[main knot]

Please, back the old crossplay 😭

[eager maple]

i feel like the solo mode should be permament, and also the new 5v5 too. it would be great for the game in the long run

[drifting gorge]

No, I want rank to mean more than it does. To actually be a display of your skill, instead of how much you've played or if you were in a stack. They tried amending some of that with S2's changes, but plats and some diamonds still suck, which shouldn't be the case for a final rank in any game. It's not about gatekeeping, it's about giving the community more rewards, giving them incentive to play longer, and to actually have rank mean more in ranked.

[broken lake]

plus, ruby weapon skins could be really sick. Imagine a sword made entirely out of rubies, for example

[safe rover]

Just had a bug where i couldnt shoot

[lethal coyote]

can we get some more options for crosshair ➕

[proper ore]

Currenlty diamond 4 is quite easy to get, u dont even need to be particulary good.
However Diamond 3,2 & 1 are quite difficult to achieve since u need to consistantly win tournaments to get any progress at all.
So imo currently diamond 1 is for the best of the best unlike previous season that required you to just grind mindlessly to rank up.

[desert blaze]

If the attack and defend is received well. Could we possibly make that into a ranked mode of its own. Pull the player base who enjoy taking out on their players instead of Just Having Cash Out as the only ranked. Using the same rank system. but it’s separate rewards.

[lilac coral]

The lights will defs cry that’s why it would get nerfed hard but I would love to see the gun it would be crazy 😂

[willow leaf]

Remove medium

[floral gorge]

fix matchmaking

[lament talon]

If you really want us to ban cheaters as a community you need to give us killcams and replay like in overwatch.
Else there will be 100s of false reports.

[broken lake]

ye, I agree with this

[arctic bramble]

Attention to anyone having performance issues: setting in BIOS for cards 30 Series and higher: Risize BAR. enabling it will give a big increase in performance. thank me later

[half iris]

tried ur crap game 3 times tonight, 3 times crashed. Lotta cr4p

[hushed viper]

Constantly getting players disconnecting from Ranked. Even when we're winning. So frustrating

[mystic robin]

SAME AND I CANT EVEN RECONNECT

[woven fossil]

I like this one

[violet solstice]

Yep I went from playing hours a day & spending $$$ to not playing at all & not spending any $$$ after they nerfed Light Cloak...I tried to make it work but the nerf was just way too much & Light is already way to weak to be getting nerfs. They nerfed the fun right out of the game. There was nothing wrong with Cloak b4 the Nerf. REVERT CLOAK BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS!!!! Devs listen way too much to the whiny M & H"s who dont think that a Light should ever be able to kill them. @red arch I played nothing but M from the time I started until I unlocked every Gadget & Utility in every single Class. I eventually settled on Light as a main but I currently play Light Main & also Heavy depending on the mode & team balance. The nerf to Lights Cloak was just another nail in the coffin to Light class. It wasnt necessary to appease a minority of M & H whiners. My problem is that since the devs keep nerfing things based on the whiners where will it end. Yeah I could spent hours mastering another utility like Dash but why should I & how long before the devs nerf that too???? The whiners are already complaining about Dash now since the Cloak nerf. Its a waste of time spending countless hours learning & mastering a class just to have the devs keep nerfing stuff so u have to start over. Any M or H that had an issue with Lights Cloak has a skill issue. Takes skill to play a 150HP class against 250HP & 350HP class when the moment u fire a single bullet ur uncloaked, take any kind of damage from anything ur uncloaked, cloak can be heard & seen if ur paying attention. Its not a light skill issue to want to play cloak as it was intended its a M & H skill issue not being able to use the 100-200 HP difference to win the fight.

[misty schooner]

Fix smoke Fix smoke, fix throwing knives that are already thrown from ceasing to exist when you die, fix vaults and cashouts going underground, fix mine glitch

[red arch]

learn other classes, it’s not like you’re forced to play light, or yk adapt, the nerf didn’t make light unplayable, you just need to think more about when you want to be invis, instead of keeping 100% invis uptime

[timber sage]

New game mode/game variant, Power Shift turrets vs lights.
One team is Medium with turrets and APS, the other team is Light with glitch grenades/stun guns. Basically a TF2 Spy vs. Engie deal.

[modern wedge]

thank you for embark

[restive brook]

We should be able to use expressions in the lobby!

[serene hearth]

i feel like we should have itemshop updates more often, and you should only be able to buy stuff from show to make other items feel more special

[languid lotus]

Aim Assist:
comparatively aim assist for the finals is still too cracked imo. in comparison with other games such as apex, their aim assist is like a guiding hand helping controller players actually get the reticule onto the target, whereas on the finals its as if there is an actual magnet on people which the reticules wish to actully "stick" too. its called aim assist, not aim lock on

[smoky gust]

i think the smoke grenade needs some love

make it last longer
make it bigger
give 1 more charge

just something

[turbid falcon]

Light is already unviable in ranked, and theyre going to remove/rework the one gadget that gives them a competitive edge?

[royal gust]

3/4'd round in Ranked 3 times in a row in plat 2. Still deranking? This game sucks (H- main so cant be carried)

[frail wave]

u got carried brotha

[stark notch]

I bet you were part of the 'nerf FCAR, nerf defib, nerf recon senses, nerf RPG, nerf nukes' whiners

[stoic marten]

Whiner this whiner that, sounds like a skill issue 🤪 just 🔫 stun people while fully invisible as they 🏃‍♂️ by you 😱😲

Good on you for noticing the annoyances with having to relearn something. It's almost like changing recoil patterns frequently has experience shattering drawbacks.

[gray wharf]

Game just died no console player is doing rank it impossible to play as a controller player vs pc

[hallow eagle]

Ranks is asss

[royal vault]

my game will hang or be stuck in infinite loop between tournament rounds and then i have to restart the game, but i get in game suspensions. It is at 30 minutes right now

[grave wren]

Please reimagine the APS turret. My main weapon is the CL40 and having a gadget that completely disables a main weapon is hugely detrimental to anyone even attempting to use a different playstyle. If you have all these weapons in the game, why are half of them stopped by several gadgets? Stun gun completely stops melee in their tracks for four whole seconds while it should only be a cashout denier and not a tool for picking off single enemies, but at least you've been claiming to have "fixed" it for the upcoming update so I won't delve into further detail about that, but the APS still remains untouched.

Yes I know that I can just "shoot beside it", but most of the time the enemy has either put it in a hard to reach spot so that it doesn't take as much splash damage, or the enemy is right there and I cannot shoot at them while they shoot me since I'm preoccupied with destroying the APS turret so that I can even have a chance of landing blows on them. I like the concept of the APS turret, but please make it weaker against both the grenade launchers so that I don't have to switch weapons just to have a chance at competing. It could be for example reducing the spread within the sphere and/or reducing the damage within as well. This still makes it necessary to shoot beside it in order to destroy it and return to full efficiency as well as keeping the pre-existing perks of deploying it against projectiles. There could also be a setup timer on it like every other placeable gadget in the game, I don't understand why mines, turrets, C4, etc have an activation time and the APS does not. Did you think it wasn't necessary? I don't rather enjoy being completely countered mid-firefight and I do not think that most other grenade launcher users do either.

I sincerely hope that you do something about it, thanks in advance.

[tough merlin]

Honestly id disagree I play against console players in ranked all the time (Cause queue times are stupid long on pc only) and I've always felt like they were at a disadvantage.

[frozen stirrup]

fucking. hide. ranks

[plush grotto]

Why?

[gleaming tide]

Egg throwing knife skin. Thx 🥚🔪

[cobalt lava]

God no

[sleek pilot]

I second this. Throwing ‘tamas around would be so funny

[limber torrent]

i am tired of the tazing gun, like theses days all the lights in every game just spam this, i play medium yet i just get taze kill and it is a big turn off for me, and the worst is that i can't correctly fire at them cause i can't use the scope of my gun... i feel like this has become just frustrating... I main light and i don't even need such a tool to kill enemies so i don't find it even required to be balance but just removed from the game...

[trim olive]

make throwing knives 2 times louder :>

[solar cradle]

exactly. when I complain about aim assist not being available on pc games (pc controller player) everyone says LULZ USE KBM IT'S BETTER. but then when there is aim assist a lot of these people are like IT'S TOO MUCH AIM ASSIST WTF I GOT KILLED BY A CONSOLE PLAYER ONCE THAT'S BROKEN... okay so when there's no aim assist it's "just play kbm" and when it's there it's " bullshit" because the input they use (kbm) must be better (or perceived as better ) by them ... rules for thee and not for me it seems

[vestal basin]

Plus, even if you climbed to diamond, there will be at least one cheater every game 100% guaranteed

[outer radish]

mate this is actually ridicious now cheater every game

[night surge]

no lmao

[edgy pawn]

yea obviously my dattebayo

[tulip kite]

Please add mouse and keyboard compatibility to consoles !

[versed dagger]

Can we skip to 2.8 so i can have goth skin?

[stone temple]

no ?

aps turret is balanced in my opinion, I understand people want to main a weapon in the game and i know the cl40 is uselessa gainst the aps turret. But if they buff the cl40 or nerf the aps turret, the game will be even more difficult to play than it is right now. The only way they can make this ok, is to add a feature where the aps turret can block a certain amount of projectiles (idk if I said this correctly since my english is bad)

[lilac mango]

The game won't be made overly difficult by nerfing the APS Turret. What you suggested was quite literally a nerf, and a reasonable one at that. Nerfing the APS turret doesn't have to be THAT bad, but it should be something like taking a health reduction for every single projectile blocked, or a certain amount it can block like you said, which would solve a little bit of the problem, which is enough of it for now.

[woven fossil]

They added Canadians to real life…,,,.,.. woah.,,..,,.,,,

@red arch yeah, but light is actually fun. There’s a reason why it’s so popular in casual instead of ranked!

[lean birch]

its happening to me too, since the last update, 1 week and they do nothing

[wide void]

APS indeed needs to be tweaked. Anyway...

Since you already nerfed the nukes in a million other ways, can you please at least undo this change where the red canisters fly differently when they have gadgets attached? They're practically IMPOSSIBLE to predict. Look at this: https://streamable.com/xd0e84

It's so unreliable that at this point, you might as well completely remove being able to attach gadgets to throwables at all. At least we won't blow ourselves up then.

[red arch]

yeah, its just weird to hear how light is completely unusable because you effectively have less time to cloak. yeah the nerfs are a bit too much, but jesus complaining all the time instead of learning how to play and improve with the nerfs/another style of gameplay is kinda just corny to me. im playing light sword in casual and it's the most fun i've had lately and is sorta viable if you fully learn all the mechanics around it

[drowsy stump]

Just had a light go 23 and 6 dude used invis and heavy attack with sword. It’s just way to easy to abuse the light. There really is no nerf for the light because they intentionally made it over powered. Any nerf you do the light users will just adopt a new scummy way of using the light. Anyone who says lights are not op they have not faced a really good light. They can shred entire teams and run off. Guy below. Sounds like you face bronze lights. Everyone keeps saying oh you can see it that doesn’t matter in the heat of the moment. So go on with that crap you can see it. Yea best case scenario I can but not always.

[willow jewel]

if you're dying to someone doing that you suck, to the guy above, invis is a crutch that only bad players use against other bad players, any good player can see and tell when someone is cloaked and how to deal with it

[violet wing]

Light was and is viable, but as the class with the least HP it's hard on weak players. Super fast movement, cool weapons, abilities and gadgets, you can play like a ninja, so it's like a magnet for young , weak players. That's basically why it gives the impression that light players are whining constantly. Too many young ninja wannabes not really getting the game and being frustrated. I'm playing with light friends, some of them even use cloak, and they destroy at the game because they know how to capitalize with that class.

[willow leaf]

@drowsy stump It’s not lights that are op it’s invis that’s op. They should just remove it give the class 50 more health and faster regen and better specialization to actually make it balanced.

[final swallow]

i concur

[woven fossil]

Light is next to useless without abilities 😭 If you can find one person running dagger without dash or cloak at high level play, do let me know. The problem with light is that it NEEDS the abilities, but with other classes, you can run things like the overrated med gun I forget the name of or the lewis without even needing to worry about what ability you choose. You can run a goo gun alongside the lewis and that's basically a reloadable multiuse stun gun. and with goo gun, most of the time you can't even fire back in time before you get wiped by a lewis. With cloak on the other hand, it only really work prior to fights, guarantees maybe one hit, is visible if you're paying attention, and can be countered with flames or gas (utilities counter ability)

Yeah, but the complaining IS justified from light. Light players get attacked all the time by heavies who spam the same loadout capable of spray and praying away cloak users, but as soon as they try to adapt, people get pissed that they run dash and knife/tk/sword when it is the only way to make it viable. If light is anything more than target practice, people get annoyed! On top of that, other classes have some EXTREMELY overpowered abilities that nobody talks about, like the goo gun for example, capable of offense, defense, and ocassionally even better mobility than light. And we have tried to adapt, and we've been kicked in the ass for it over and over again. Cloak wasn't always ran because it was op, it was ran because it was actually useful. Dash just doesn't work with guns at all, and don't get me started on the terror that is the grappling hook. The worst thing is that no matter what, people get annoyed with the mobility class because they won't stand still and take a lewis gun to the head. Literally a flamethrower counters all of light's abilities, but rather than ADAPTING, people sob and demand light gets nerfed because their stage 42 arthritis makes them incapable of moving their mouse

[wintry storm]

Make the last match of the ranked be 3 teams
nothing happens half of the fucknig match at the end, is boring af

[red arch]

yeah that's fair, i dislike the light nerfs as i said, but the complaining all the time is just cringe, just adapt to the game or play another class with more stable options and if anything it's not like lights are unable to go invis anymore, if people are unable to stand being visible for that long, run a vanish bomb as well i guess

[smoky belfry]

What’s good uncs

[wind escarp]

what is good

[vocal cave]

ay i didn't know u played this game thats dope, i like ur designs 👍

[timber dove]

Invis can still be used but the nerf killed a playstyle. To the way I played, invis is dead. I can play dash for funsies but I'd rather play Medium or Heavy at this point which is a shame when light was my favorite.

[languid lotus]

bait

[cobalt lava]

Please give fcar a different weakness. Having it just be “objectively the best at everything but has low ammo” is never going to work. It’s extremely lame and just overshadows everything else on the class

[keen tartan]

For the love of everything please fix the stun gun. There is no counter to it and usually the whole team has it. One bullet and you can't move you can't change weapons and you can't aim. Does that sound like a equipment or a special. Please fix this . It's super unplayable and not welcome for newcomers

[tough merlin]

nah the aim assist nerfed into the ground imo. It doesn't feel bad in my experience to play against it. imagine it feels bad to play with it but idk im k/m

Use to be way stronger tbf

[shut cosmos]

My feedback is that ranked feels terrible and incredibly unrewarding and overly punishing. Just loaded into a ranked match with 2 players. Finished 4th in first round and lost rank (2 arrows down) because of it. This is not the first time this has happened but it’s the most recent. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. I don’t know if this is a matchmaking error. Or an error caused by the constant game crashes. But I am sick and tired of losing rank while playing short handed.

[pine pollen]

has this game been buggy for anyone else? I can't even launch it from Steam today, not to mention performance seems to be going down with each update

[bronze abyss]

Please fix spawns, when teams constantly just spawn near an active cashBOX the fighting never ends and usually one team just gets free cashouts. I do not think I should spawn over 200m away from an active cashout instead of spawning so close to the cashbox

[willow leaf]

What playstyle was that?

[magic stratus]

Can you please adjust the sound effect of the battle pass defib skin to make a better audible queue? Compared to the regular defib skin, its hard to tell when to let go of the button

[thorn elbow]

IM PLAT 2 PLAYING WITH SILVERS HELPPPPPPPP

[lilac garden]

Please create a discussion channel and limit users to one message per 24 hour period in this channel. enable reactions to messages put in this channel so that you can view user feedback more efficiently by seeing how people react to suggested add on or adjustments via emotes used by members - edit - @ebon tendon Because people spam messaging this with "ban cheaters" or "nerf flamethrower" is helpful?

[ebon tendon]

there is a discussion channel, live feedback is better than emoji reacts that can be easily misinterpreted @lilac garden It is. Those are legitimate feedbacks. Emoji reacts are hardly helpful. If that was the case they would just use the reacts they get in #game-announcements

[odd flax]

ban wave for cheater when ? or better anti cheat ?

[woven fossil]

Dude you're gonna freak out when you hear about goo gun...

[novel zephyr]

75K and 150K cash out contracts are wack! Forces me to play cash modes and I have to do at least like 30!

[keen tartan]

Trust me I know

[tacit patrol]

Dear, the Finals, please never use engagement based match making like overwatch. It feels terrible and ruins my day. I never want the finals tainted with this MM system.

[timber hazel]

Play cash out, not quick cash. Still tedious but will be more doable than playing quick cash where the maximum money you can get is 20 k.

[quick coyote]

I LOOK FORWARD TO TOMORROW'S UPDATE. THE HEAVY SHIELD BUG (PIERCES PUNCHES, SWORDS, KNIVES) IS NOW FIXED. ||NOT TO MENTION MOST OF THE PLAYERS WHO LEAVE THE GAMES. || AND ONE LAST WEAPON BALANCE CHANGE FOR ALL WEAPONS. TO STOP PAMPERING THE ||PLAYERS IN SKIRTS||. WE'RE TIRED OF TRYING TO UPGRADE A WEAPON SO THAT A BALANCE CHANGE... AND THE EFFORT STAYS ON THE GROUND. ||NO MATTER WHO IT HURTS|| THANKS FOR READING.

[sonic spoke]

I the goo gun

[rugged temple]

add a way to properly say GG, saying thanks ends up being received as toxic most of the time

[rose surge]

You can't "change weapons"? You can only have one weapon in the game lol. This just goes to prove that everyone who complains about the stun gun is mostly garbage.

@keen tartan stun gun and rocket launcher are called "gadgets". The goo gun is a special ability. There is no primary/secondary designation in this game. There is just one gun, you have abilities and gadgets that can augment it. I'm free to answer any other questions you might have about this game 🙂

[gaunt nymph]

Embark are you seriously ? ............. who is giving light sword and dash ? you saying outplay the stupid pick up dash and sword, how, light is getting nerf ? one light, two light, five light... and then is a where they from there's no sound or indicator on screen ? many light came from were to me behind ? this is doesnt sense me....... remove light from your game. how many time im dieed to a light sword dash..... because he is making me turn around 360, are too oppp, why dash and sword at one..... stop this no sense

[ebon hemlock]

I just played a cheater in quick cash that had permanent invis. please region lock asia and look into this new cheat\

[keen tartan]

umm.. what?! Stun gun, Goo gun, rocket launcher are all secondary weapons.. what game are you playing?!

[willow leaf]

Remove medium

[quick coyote]

Edited: hey, hey, it's just community opinions. Don't take it personally 💀

[serene hearth]

rate the fit

[edgy pawn]

10/10

[mental folio]

I have a question about video player report,I found a cheater before,then I try to use leaderboard find him,but looks like he change his name after every ranked,I wanna know embark can really find cheater? is database still got their ex name

[ebon tendon]

its his Embark id, the one with the # and 4 numbers after it, not his IN GAME name, The Embark ID isnt changeable

[quick coyote]

why can mediums fire CLs at their feet and take like 3 damage?

[finite briar]

please have an option to toggle auto aim for melee weapons.
I understand console players need it but not pc. The autoaim caused me to lose a game to it targeting a medium instead of a light on the cashout due to the team huddling around the cashout.
I was a heavy playing sledge hammer

[desert anchor]

I think this game would really benefit from also having game modes that cater to solo players. Love this game, but it can be difficult to enjoy when playing without the squad

[violet gust]

i would appreciate an option to see my ping/fps ingame ty!!

[lean patrol]

The goo getting you stuck while on a moving platform is getting frustrating

[frigid citrus]

4k damage past 100m is fucking nasty. friend got 2k and that's bad enough

[graceful hollow]

lol

[willow leaf]

Remove medium

[sinful gazelle]

Remove Heavy
Remove Light
Remove the game

[lapis oriole]

Remove the wings

[ebon tendon]

Remove Weapons, Use silly string instead

[humble temple]

solo bank it and steal the spotlight were in the game last season 1 as ltm and solo bank it is in the private match option now. I do think they will make it permanent at some stage.

[dim sun]

this gotta be a troll lmfao

[woven fossil]

goo gun is just a stun gun with offensive, defensive, and maneuverability capabilities lmao
It's also capable of team griefing, making it even more awesome

[broken lake]

the fact that sword goes through the shield when someone the person hitting you with it is INSIDE the damn shield should not be something to "fix".

That's the purpose of running a melee weapon, dingus

[rough herald]

its battlebit but yeah it dose look like roblox lol

[kind iron]

does smoke block LOS from guardian turret and APS? if not then... itd be a really good buff and nerf to guardian turrets/aps and a buff to smoke grenades
(got the idea from valorant)

[grizzled canopy]

Day 26 of asking Embark for medieval bundles

[willow leaf]

The game with just light and heavy would actually be a fun and balanced game. Medium ruins that

[humble temple]

it is a bug https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1213136334881947748

[swift gust]

engagement based match making? whats that?

[hallow tartan]

Remove powershift bring back unranked tourney

[tacit patrol]

It is where they create scenarios in match making to make players engaged for longer periods of time.

This includes creating long win/loss streaks, creating difficult or easy matches when you get on, ect.

If you ever feel like the match was rigged from the start, it's probably to get your emotions running high so you keep playing. A lot of the time people don't feel like their games are actually in their control

[heady pilot]

The only right way to play the game, imagine using light when you have this

[violet solstice]

Actually Ive never been part of any nerf this nerf that whining crowd at all...Unlike some no skill piss ants who run M & H all the time & constantly complain that the weakest & easiest class to kill isnt easy enough to kill, I just played the game & had fun. I worked hard & spent many hours perfecting my class with the tools at my disposal. Takes time & skill to use Light class effectively with any of the utilities/gadgets provided. I never once complained about other classes loadouts/utilities. My only complaint has been the Nerf to Light Cloak because it was a knee jerk reaction to a noisy minority of whiners who had no skill. They already nerfed Cloak prior to this last nerf making it easier to see & hear & made it so as soon as u fired a single shot u auto uncloaked. Any damage taken from anything also uncloaks a Light. How much easier to kill do u need a Light to be?? A light with 150HP uncloaked from the 1st shot is still no guarantee of a kill on a 250HP M or 350HP H at all. I also play Heavy & had no issues dealing with a cloaked light. I hip fire kill so many lights when they stun me that stun is almost useless anyway if not used right...but there lies the problem, when people take the time & put in the effort to learn how to use a classes gadgets & utilities to the best they can others start whining that its OP & want it nerfed....do what I did....put in the time & effort to get better & play as a team & the nerfs are not needed. Too many casual players running around like a chook with no head chasing kills out on their own away from their team crying that a light caught them off guard & got the drop on them & killed em...cry me a river I play light with 150HP so death is expected!!! @stoic marten ur just a tool with no skill whatsoever if a light with cloak gets the drop on u & takes ur life. With 250-350HP a light has to work hard to get that kill & u have to be out on ur own out of position away from ur team for a light to even be a threat so we know ur not a team player just a moron chasing kills with no thought for the team or objective!! Go back to Minecraft cos ur one of the ones whining about a little ole light with 150HP killing u lol

[ebon tendon]

Thats a LOT of words you typed friend

[stoic marten]

Actually... Yeah I tried to read that word wall but it was just full of nonesense. Minecraft requires more skill than the Finals could ever muster 💀 Defibs on Light? Yeah you've got some really creative ideas. What else does Light need? The Fcar and AK too?

While it isn't necessarily the channel to banter cause of the 30 minute post lock... You spent all that time streaming "consciousness" with no actual reply, just a straight up "this, that, whiner not, feel this, 150hp that, I know so much I shouldn't have to explain that"

[upper saddle]

Suggestion-

Adjustments to Support Score for Mesh and Dome Shields as well as adding the Riot Shield to the list of things that generate support score based on damage blocked, making them only give support score IF an ally is near them when they block damage, doesn't have to be behind them or anything like that, just near them. Heavies head glitching off of my Riot Shield is a ton of fun and is one of the best teamwork mechanics in the game but it doesn't even give me score meanwhile a Heavy using their mesh shield to soak up bullets while they're alone or using a dome shield to give themselves more effective health in a 1v1 does give them support score. it's a really weird interaction.

[pastel tide]

fix anticheat

[dim sun]

pls fix the dagger hit box it is so bad. 5/10 times of hitting someone directly in their back it doesnt count as a backstab also pls add a setting to reduce the lung auto aim on melee it Is too strong and makes you look where you dont want to look. also it prioritizes objects instead of people some times and it will hit something behind the person in front of you sometimes

[glossy bough]

solo queue should get less penalties for losing games in ranked to 3 stacks, it would encourage more people who don't have a consistent stack to play ranked

[visual narwhal]

ranked up to diamond 4 solo, and recently even if I drop 10+ kills each match of a tournament and make it to round 3, I lose rating or gain 1. Wish we had some sort of clarity on how the system works, nothing else I can do except make it to the finals every single tournament, and if thats the case, it would be super nice to know

[tulip dove]

Bring back unranked tournaments

[swift gust]

so what I suspected was true afterall then. For the past few days my matches felt like it was rigged. Literally EVERY SINGLE FIGHT was ruined by a 3rd party. I got gold and sometimes even a legit bronze player (not a smurfer) in my team going against a full diamond triple stacks. From the start to end of every match I had to fight against 2 teams or even all 3 teams. After I got thirded and when I approach the another vault which no one opened, I again get thirded because the game spawned 2 teams near me and the other team walks off with cashout easily especially the 15k and 22k cashout.

[crystal umbra]

Servers seem to be shit rn. Please fix.

I'll loose rank because of this.

Maybe add rank protection for finishing a game without a full team.

Thanks for your consideration

[willow leaf]

Imagine thinking it takes skill to play invis light lol try to play with grapple hook or dash to actually experience a challenge. You can be brain dead and still destroy people with invis

[quick coyote]

Idk, rework the sword or something. Lunge takes to long to activate, the targetting is weird, and it feels clunky as fuck

[dim sun]

i think the the sword lunge feels fine especially if you use with dash. The targeting and autoaim on all the melee feels terrible though. Especially the dagger. its so frusrating to use melee when it has a mind of its own. more player control would be better'

[tulip basin]

Any Embark staff able to confirm this about mouse smoothing?

Back in the beta people were editing some configs to set bEnableMouseSmoothing to "False", since it was something that UE5 enables by default.
From what I heard, this is no longer necessary since it has been disabled by default after the games release?

[sinful vessel]

If technically possible, a previous match replay function to compliment video player reports and/or to replay and clip cool moments after a match. thanks oscar for taking the time to read this feedback

[tulip dove]

What would be cool is after a team wipe, we would have multiple options on available spawn locations to select from

Also bring back u ranked tournament

[lunar iron]

Please do something about the APS turret. Its unfair that it can shut down specific builds entirely for an unlimited amount of time. Grenade launchers are the only main weapons where you really feel like you have to switch your main weapon mid-tourney if people start rolling out APS in bulk. Whereas the counter for grenade launchers is to switch your gadgets only. You can still play your best weapon such as the FCAR. APS should have a limited number of explosions it can take. Both grenade launchers have low ammo already so its still a W to use an APS turret with a change like this

[broken lake]

please revert dash to the closed beta one, where it was just a rapid acceleration you could chain into other tech, not just a straight line that then immediately cancelled momentum the moment it was done.

it would raise the skill ceiling for light significantly, and open up so many super cool gameplay opportunities.

It would also make dash less bad, since it'd be a bit harder to track when used in a smart way, while making it easy to slip outside effective range for your guns without precise use. (meaning it raises the skill ceiling and floor for the specalization)

[wraith igloo]

0/10

[rigid vessel]

New cheat or new bug

invis while shooting and getting shot

[cerulean echo]

encountered two bugs today, one where hammer is not animating charged swing and another where spectator cam blocks goo placement

[rough herald]

**APS: Proactivity and fck your projectile problem ** (Day 17 of asking)

Notes:
. to start off, i love the idea of the aps, the ability of being able to defend an area locking down a room is fun
. but its just unfair in some situation all because the "fck your projectile" part of APS.
for a weapon like the GL that shoot projectile you basically lose the fight automatically
. and for powershift its basically mandatory to win (that gamemode need a rework tbh)
. also seens we're talking about powershift, its basically impossible to destroy the aps not only because the wall but also the fact that it can be replace instantly due to no cooldown on destroy
. its also a one and done. meaning once you place it down it just stay there forever

Suggestion: what i want to see
. (fck your projectile) either make it so it take damage with each projectile destroy. Or it can only destroy 5 projectile then broke
. and also give it a 3 second activation time like the turret have

Suggestion: what i would like to see but ok without
. (One and Done) make it lose hp overtime
. cool down on destroy

(embark pls fix )

[broken lake]

100% agree with what you're saying. Especially with the new apparent movement to get sword and dash nerfed. An offmeta option, on the offmeta class.

Which can be shut down easily by: Aiming competently. Mines. Gas. Fire. RPG. Flamethrower. Medium GL. Basic Gamesense. etc.

because heaven for-fucking bid the evasive and tricky class be evasive, after we've petitioned successfully to have the tricky parts of their kit piledriven into the ground.

(If I were to give you some advice though, divide your argument up into different small sections of sentences that are cohesive. People won't hit you with the "TLDR" and pretend their inability to read past a 1st grade level means they won the argument quite so often if you do.)

[pastel tide]

fix anticheat

[versed bridge]

Bug as old as the game itself
Nobody really knows how to recreate it and the person who is invis doesn't even really know that they're invis

[mortal rose]

nerf APS, buff grappling hook, nerf healing beam, nerf turret, nerf fcar, nerf barricade, nerf lewis, buff mesh shield, fix the cloak sometimes it harder to see, fix your sound cause sometime there no enemy footstep nearby, and the most important of all rework your easyanticheat to harderanticheat

[gleaming tide]

EGG THROWING KNIFE 🥚

[fresh shell]

If I manually leave a lobby, maybe, just maybe I don't wanna rejoin it immediately? multiple times

[gleaming tide]

Egg throwing knife. thx

[strong vessel]

Its got something to do with vanishing bomb. When it happened to me I always had the 'moving while invisible' sound playing so the person should know it happened. But yeah, bug is there since release.

[lunar current]

Hello, dear Finals developers, when it will be possible to customize the voice chat button because the Z button is very inconvenient + why not make it so that while you hold the microphone button down, you speak, and not hold the button for 3 seconds, then you speak, and then hold this button again for 3 seconds. These extra clicks and the inconvenience of using voice chat prevent you from communicating in the game and as a result, the 0 communication team, respectively, all run in different directions and die, and you have no desire to play with random allies.

[sterile sparrow]

Hear me out! Everytime we play on Sys$Horizon map, any in game event that starts, there is chance that it gets glitched and changes to another entirely, like lets say low gravity is active and then the event text gets glitched and it changes to a CNS specific or something like Mega Damage etc? Should make that map more enjoyable, more unique and give CNS more representation. #CNS4Life

[lilac grail]

Simple and easy W for the devs. Allow for multiple mode queuing. Cool with powershift, cashout, or bank it? Queue for them all at the same time and get a lil bonus xp. Or something like that.

[bleak coral]

skill issue, only change that would be reasonable would be activation time

[primal cedar]

Devs can pls add keyboard and mouse compatibility to ps5 pls pls

[brittle harness]

Please add a quiz that evaluate if you have understood the game BEFORE entering ranked.

[rough herald]

realistically yes, and all the rest is just what annoy me tbh
also next time don't start your sentences with skill issue, just say your constructive critism and move on, that word make people listen to you less

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90
• Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)
• Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)

ALLOW MELEE WEAPONS TO KEEP SPRITING WHEN ATTACKING:

• This would help them to compete

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[timber ore]

Game got auto exit and I got suspended for 10 minutes?

[balmy rock]

bring back normal tournament and fix the anti cheat please! use something else, if you may. I get why people run away from the game, and dont mind looking back, when theres this many cheaters.
Another thing. in Sys$horizon all the building just make this awful sound and disapears when blown or the hover wagon runs threw buildings. The VERY awesome thing about The Finals is the destruction abd the way buildings fall apart in the first maps. not like they do in the latest map

[merry creek]

Remove console from PC ranked lobbies.... return crossplay to being console only.... controller v mnk in high level ranked is unbalanced.
You've killed the ranked experience on xbox, and the lack of other things to work for (contracts take like 20 mins... often complete majority within 1 match) hemorrhaging players

[fallow ravine]

Team chat and let us emote in lobbies

[spice lintel]

why no all chat

[naive sundial]

I'm sure this is something you've thought about and other ppl have also mentioned, but a kill-cam would be great to have in this game , specially for catching cheaters

[runic thunder]

Cycling weapon animation. I wish to see multiple weapon animations in one game. For example Jackpot Juggle and Crunch Time of AKM

[vestal coral]

you must heavily punish those who abandon ranked games by making them lose 2 rank positions and cannot play either free or ranked for 2 hours, and the more games they abandon the longer this time extends up to the ban from ranked games for a month, moreover if the team loses a player he needs to be replaced quickly, one can't play without a team for the entire match it makes no sense.

[hollow breach]

Increase movement speed of melee weapons users! I think it's a good addition for it being a melee weapon. Prevents endless chasing ppl with guns

[cloud jungle]

REMOVE MELEE AUTO-AIM

[robust venture]

Ban players who are boosted by a cheater and not only the cheater (Only if they are premade)

[floral prairie]

Maybe just don’t leave and stay to the end. I hate joining a game mid game so just stay in the match

[livid heron]

that could come in with video reports

[fresh shell]

Yeah no, I ain't wasting my time in a round with stupidly obvious headshot-aimbots in dense fog.

[proven ibex]

Bruh, Riot Shield is OP. It's in correct place now. There's no buff needed.

[obsidian solar]

Yeah, no.
I'm plat 1 almost diamond shield only. I know the weapon inside and out and have more experience than you'd ever dream with it. It's top 3 worst weapons in the game

[vestal coral]

light players are the most toxic players you can meet, they only play for easy kills.

[uneven mountain]

The game needs custom tournaments. An area of the menu called tournament manager where you can input how many knockout rounds you want for huge creator tournaments that will of course have increased player count requirements the more rounds, disable and enable specific game show events as well as map variations and other game rules. Joining will be code-based and the creator will be able to sort the teams and give them names which will be called team [number] by voice actors. For big tournaments with many knockout rounds made by content creators, the tournament can be a file saved to the creator's computer with all of the tournament configurations including team members so that when they continue the next day, a creator must choose the file with the tournament config and make the players rejoin. As they rejoin it will put them back into their original team and have them on the tournament structure page until the creator presses the start next knockout round button. This can attract competitive players, the esports community and content creators who like to run tournaments in their community boosting players which can mean more revenue for the studio. Thank you if you're a dev who took the time to read this.

[river plover]

meanwhile my ranked teammates shouting at me cus I picked dagger instead of boring medium meta loadout or boring heavy meta loadout:

[rough herald]

• letting player see the score broad in the start of the round/ loadout screen is a good idea but i prefer not able to, as it will make a match just a touch more exciting.
• and also pls remove the ability to change loadout to item that isn't in the reserve, kindda make the reserve feels point less you know?

[foggy orbit]

He's just trolling, most normal people regard the Riot Shield as the worst weapon, especially in a ranked setting. Keep fighting the good fight and don't let these players with a severe skill issue change that.

[graceful hollow]

plat 1 is zzz

[naive fulcrum]

It's so fun tho! Keep up the good work soldier

[floral prairie]

Yes I understand that and that EMBARK should work on a better anti cheat. Please don’t leave mid game as my duo @obtuse yoke can back me up on it is annoying when people leave mid game and we are the only ones left on our team. I also hate snipers who play clicking simulator and camp on the furthest building.

[fallow ravine]

Oh yeah have an MVP system aswell for the best play of the game ( like in overwatch

[obtuse yoke]

Respectfully mate, just stick it out, pretty often if you can sneak up on that sniper, they'll leave themselves because they'll get pissed that you killed them even when they were hacking. Cos it f*cking sucks when your whole team leaves on you and your stuck with a smaller team for about 3min till a new player is found. And more often than not when a player leaves my team we end up coming back and winning so just don't give up hope and insta leave when you get killed a few times

[umbral root]

gadget idea: ripped straight from futurama, The Finglonger.™️ grab cashouts from way out 😂

[glacial sierra]

aps is fine mate. change up your tactics if it's in your way. differnt gun, different angle of approach. they're so easy to destroy or avoid once you know they're there.

thankyou to all the numpties who spam grenades at my turret though, i appreciate the XP. ❤️

[obsidian solar]

Thank you!!! ❤️

[quick coyote]

I would say it's the worst weapon in the game. Even dagger can do better with all it's jankiness.

[burnt notch]

U can customize the vc button tho… I have it set to left alt

[upper edge]

In season 5, do we get a fixed in anti cheat, or do we just deal with the cheaters as is?

[eager root]

season 5?

[magic halo]

Please change any/all contracts involving "steal cashouts" to include progression points for teammates' stealing cashout as well. Too many teammates out here baiting teammates to death for cashouts (not defending teammates during steals) or stealing my well-earned steals after wiping teams 1v3

[pseudo breach]

Don't think this game is going to see Season 5, believe me, I want it to, but the way things are now... Devs too preoccupied with creating skins and game modes and not fixing longstanding bugs or ditching EAC for something better. Servers are trash as well at the moment. Was a way smoother experience when there were 100-200k players a day than the +-20k on Steam and how many ever on PS5 and Xbox.

[vestal coral]

This game is too casual and noob freandly, it only rewards luck and noobs. Game for players without skills who want to believe and feel strong.

[upper edge]

lol same thoughts, this will definitely get thrashed by better games in the future, the finals might last long, but not long enough, just waiting for the other games to pop out and might leave this game for good until they fix the most crucial things like anti-cheat

glad i only spent $5.19 on this game

[wicked tiger]

Absolute nonsense.

[odd prawn]

So I went from not playing competitive (ish) shooters for 8 years to putting like 530 hours into this game in the past 3 months. And I say this with all love, the practice area is useless for aim training. The typical run and gun that most battles devolve down to so it trains you to play statically and makes you worse at the game. I've had to learn in spite of it and hope they make the bots in there do something resembling actual player movement, or make it even slightly customizable to help you actually practice.

[burnt notch]

What I like to do it move around fast and pretend that I’m in a heated fight, it’s the closest thing to a real fight I can mimic in practice range

[steady torrent]

tbh bro prox chat- thoughts?

[pseudo breach]

I spent 190 South African Rands, which is roughly $10, I won't be spending any more than that. Shit, if I could get a refund I would. But it is what it is.

Not sure if you ever played Super People, but was basically PUBG on steroids. Everything about the game was betrer than PUBG, to me at least. But those devs also refused to do anything about the cheaters, changing things no one ever asked for etc etc, basically the same path Finals is on now. Super People is long dead because of this.

[thorn glade]

Unpopular opinion but themed bp would go hard core but make them random as much as they can each season such as a military themed then probably a ninja/samurai theme and then even some more weird ones such as a roman and Viking themed one as this game is based on some virtual reality stuff

[elder niche]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-gif-21483615

[graceful hollow]

wanting a $10 refund is brokie behaviour

[vestal coral]

Yes, exactly, your comment makes absolute nonsense. But unfortunately ignorant people like you always open their mouths, they don't know how to keep quiet and they always have to say nonsense.

[wicked tiger]

Why would you think the game is specifically for professional gamers? 90% of the game is designed for casual players. Why would you want an FPS that isn't noob friendly? How would you attract new players?

[nova veldt]

WHEN WILL YOU FIX HAMMER NO SWING ANIMATION???????????

[potent ginkgo]

Why is steal cashouts not counting as a team thing?

[odd prawn]

Yeah but then you're shooting at targets that either don't move or move in a perfect line, which are players I hope most gamers can hit anyway. Which again reinforces the bad habit of only aiming at a static or predictable target, Its not an area thats absolutely useless at everything, but when it comes to aim training specifically for combat, i just don't see how it helps and it seems it reinforces bad habits

[umbral root]

I spent R188 on the season 2 battle pass and having a blast so far. I'm not too competitive, just playing for vibes but like the game enough to buy a battle pass and support the devs. Not saying there isn't merit to what other folks are saying as far as things that need fixing but It's very enjoyable the past few weeks I've been playing

[rough herald]

you havn't play with the cl40 have you? yeah sure, swich gun in rank and avoid the aps when they can just take a second to pick up the aps and place it down right in fort of you yeah aps is in a fine place when it shut down my ability to do any damage at all thx man

[modern wedge]

what parts of the game make that so bad tho?

other than the obvious like stun

[crimson crag]

Nice, got falsely banned for getting 32 kills in power shift THANK YOU SO MUCH EMBARK SUPPORThttps://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2502389170014605834/3CA16622937D472C9F29AFF2F4EC77EB76AEBC1B/ (It's a pic from my screen when i try boot the game lmao)

[plush grotto]

Steam phishing? @wheat fractal

[coarse junco]

Fix when you clearly hit someone with a sword and it does no damage please

[pseudo breach]

That's the only reason I bought the battle passes as well, to support the devs. I've been playing since OB so it was an easy choice. But lately... Game feels like it's going down hill. Like I mentioned before, longstanding bugs since OB is still not fixed. The devs insist on using EAC, which to me is like fucking with a broken condom. Also, as South African players we play with 250ms+ latency, which makes the game much less enjoyable than it's supposed to be. I'm in another Discord group with a few other South Africans, most of them D3+ with the one dude being D1. I have no idea how they managed with the poor latency and poor hit registration 🤷🏻‍♂️

Also, @graceful hollow, it has nothing to do with "brokie" behaviour, it has everything to do with me not wanting to support the devs anymore. If we had servers closer to South Africa, longstanding bugs were fixed and EAC was dropped in favour of something better, I'd probably buy up everything in the shop without thinking twice.

[inner sparrow]

I wish mouse and keyboard support will be added to XBOX

[deep egret]

Where to report the thousands of cheaters ruining the game to everybody? Why just don't you look at the stats and ban people with 30+ kills and 100% headshot rate everygame?

[vestal coral]

that wasn't what I meant, it's right that the game is for everyone, I'm the first one who wants to play casual, but at least in the ranked games it needs to be done better and balanced where skill counts most otherwise not creating the ranked games makes no sense. And it also creates the non-ranked tournament so I can have the tournament but casual experience and if I want a more skill-based experience instead I go to ranked. But as it is now the game has no identity it's a jumble of random things. For example, why do I always have to have two useless lightweights who use the sniper in my team? every game I have lightweights on the team who don't know how to play, who take the lightweight just to get kills and I have to lose every single game because the game gives me morons? I always have people on my team who don't know how to play, they're afk, gold and platinum players who lose against bronze and silver disconnect. They absolutely need to do something because in this state the game is frustrating for most players. They must set limits, balance everything, create a role queue.

[charred slate]

Yesterday I played ranked all day and the most time we was in squad of 2

[lofty crypt]

map bug on skyway stadium

[tender mango]

No updates yet?

[barren crater]

Please make the "steal cashout 15 times" quest team wide or lower it its so longgggg and my teamates always take it before me

[spiral lava]

HEY EMBARK! Hi pls add more options (customable)to the private lobby like: teams 2v2v2 4v4!+party practice.. if it possible and host or mates can swap between teams.( add killcam to game....) THX

[wheat tulip]

This game nood

[granite warren]

yo when you guys release a bundle for weapon animations you NEED make a way for us to easily equip the bundle to any class we have the weapon equip on (AKA MAKE THE BUTTON WORK - the button that says equip to all ❤️ )

Tip #2

maybe make it so we can view our friends careers, stats, or something / anything is better than only being able to invite people from the main menu / no form of supported whispers ASIDE from steam - im not adding these strangers on my actual steam account lol

[quick coyote]

You already know what I'm gonna say. Just exhausted atp. CHEATERS. EVERY. ROUND. In asia Server. Do something?

[unreal fossil]

@vestal coral @gusty thorn honestly, you guys should take a breather.

And find people to play with in ranked. Your experience will be much more enjoyable.

[reef jasper]

medium shotgun really needs adjusting

[coral burrow]

so ehm i know we got "easyanticheat" but i "hope" average people know that its a joke of a anticheat.
almost every lobby im walking into there are scripters...
lasering me from hundreds of meters with an AR headshotting me 3/4 shots within a second
its also well not "that" hard to tell not just by their playstyle, but also having 1 or 0 deaths and over 30-40kills

[jolly roost]

Listen, I'm not saying people don't bring up valid ideas and concerns, I'm gonna repeat some of them too, but there's just so much pointless bickering about the smallest of things that don't really matter. I wanted to shed some light on the truly most important issues.

PERFORMANCE: the performance in this game is very bad. No idea why people don't bring it up, it's the number 1 reason why I stopped playing this game. I used to have a stable framerate of around 110fps during the beta, now it's down to a very, very unstable 60. It's legit getting worse and worse and worse each week with every update. Even when playing on GeForce Now with a 4090 RTX, where Doom Eternal reaches 400 fps - yes, FOUR HUNDRED fps - The Finals is sometimes struggling with 100, dipping down to 85. It's  terrible for a fast paced FPS to stutter this much. The loading times are just absurd - every 3rd match takes close to 2 or 3 minutes to load, it also often crashes/freezes during loading screens. Since March, I also started to notice the netcode getting worse and my character often dying a good few meters behind corners.


THE GUNPLAY: have you ever wondered why the gunplay feels so off in this game? Of course, there's bad balancing and Tarkov-like recoils in an arcady Apex-y class shooter. As everyone said already, a ton of weapons needs to be buffed and the recoil patterns reverted to a much more tolerable state, cause right now there's maybe like a single gun on 2 out of the 3 classes that's actually fun to use. But wait, there's more! Did you know that your sights/crosshair don't actually show you where the bullets are going to hit? Yes, that's right. This issue existed for years and it wasn't fixed. Bullets always come from the middle of your screen, no matter what's happening. Which means your crosshair/sights actually make you miss. It's an insane oversight, I can't put into words how much worse the game is because of it.

[vestal coral]

but why do you all repeat the same things like a parrot? It is not a fair and honest solution. I want to play alone and it must give me a good experience even for those who want to play alone no this rubbish. Always defending the indefensible as much as I hate fan boys without critical judgement. Get smarter don't stay stupid please do everyone a favor instead of always saying the same obvious fan boy bullshit.

[violet wing]

Why should you buy a good computer to enjoy the game ? or a good mouse ? you can play it at 10 fps on a iPotato with a ball mouse. Why should you try winning ? The game should make you the winner from the get go. Right ?
You wanting to play solo is YOUR choice, not the game. If you make a choice you accept the consequences that come with it. Like not having reliably good teams you learn to play with to have better results. Playing solo is cool, I get you, but it has drawbacks (it's a team game, duh) and you should accept it.

@deep egret They opened a section for that. Provide a file with proof, add the cheater's tag and some info. It's in the testing phase right now so all players suffering from cheaters should invest their time in it, to make sure it becomes a useful tool. https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1234861791184683060

[fervent vortex]

Thing is 0 cheaters pull that off and most good players drop a 40-60 kill game per match since ranked is free, also most good players will team on cheaters when they fight them bringing down their kd, this solution would really just ban good players and 99% of cheaters would survive

[cinder canyon]

I was Gold 4 with 3 points need one point to be promoted to gold 3 .
I played and won the ranked tournament and I got nothing. I'm still gold 4 .

[rose surge]

Revert the cloak nerf fr

[visual slate]

[upper edge]

So many players kept protecting the game even in its worst condition, God help this ppl.

[night field]

Nerf light

[brittle obsidian]

I really don't understand what embark wants to do with cloak, I hope they just remove it. Casuals hate it because you could appear out of nowhere and vaporize someone with m11. It's useless in competitive because the tells are very obvious to seasoned players. And now it feels like shit to use because of the nerfs.

[vale acorn]

5v5v5 cash out please

[coral burrow]

imagine beeing that delusional..
if only this game had killcam...
30minutes cooldown won't rlly give much chance for me to actually respond back btw....

anyway.., 1 player solo killing people across the map ill upload the screenshot here with a url, if ur still gonna say "they are just pro"
ill happily delete the game, wtf is this about, beeing that delusional wish u were in my lobby :D u could have enjoyed beeing aimbotted down so much, and getting spawnkilled (totaly not cheating ofc), cuz apparently "pros" know where people spawn 🫡

https://ibb.co/tZ6kBB2
"apparently they are just pro, and not cheaters according to MrDerp " 🤷‍♀️

• spawn killing across map
• teamwiping across the map

🤔

[fervent vortex]

Oh no I’m perfectly aware that this game is infested with cheaters but I’m saying they can’t ban off of kd, also yes good players do know spawns but it’s typically a 50/50 so u have to watch 2 spots and only probably 200 people know that shit by heart, lastly shoot through shield no longer works so if you know what u are doing on heavy you can easily roll a aimbot

[vestal coral]

It makes me laugh when people think they're saying intelligent things, but instead they just say stupidity 😂

[worn spade]

MnK support on consoles plssss

[wind gulch]

loving the game keep it up, FINALS feels like the FPS DotA2 amidst a sea of leagues.

[vernal path]

I also had problems with fps (with a 3080ti) heard that the game was cpu bound, so switched from i7 gen 10 to i7 gen 12 now with better fps with the same gpu

[wheat bay]

lol

[thick sorrel]

Is it worth the effort, when they just 3 day ban them? How do you provide clear video without spectator mode/killcam? You might get blatant cheaters, but hurt more good players I guess.

[wary storm]

exactly, its so hard to prove without a killcam, let alone them manually going through videos to guess from the small clips they will see to then spark an investigation. Its going to be slow, labourous and inconsistent. They need to use ingame metrics to highlight potential players as cheaters and then systems and process to deal with them, whether thats reviews or anti cheat etc, but this current process is going to make the most minimal of changes

[wary tapir]

embark the absolute GOAT, keep it up kings, cant wait to buy goth girl

[versed dagger]

gotta wait for 2.8

[burnt dawn]

Can we have a Replay System?

[wicked tiger]

I leave because of cheaters. There shouldn't be any penalties for leaving games in casual modes especially in it's current state.

[gray cove]

I would like to either nerf or get rid of the smgs. A personal opinion

[urban venture]

Hello Embark, please add a multi-monitor HUD scaling ; informations are displayed on left and right of screens its difficult to focus on it

[thick sorrel]

I trust numbers over humans. Where is the problem to shadowban people with Constant 10-15 K/D, huge Damage per Min and high headshot %? Just compare it to legit Top500 players to achieve accurate nummbers.

[fast kettle]

false positives hitting good players?

I expect top 500 players are mostly facing other top 500 players, if someone's running against newbies they're going to do unexpectedly well

[unreal fossil]

@vestal coral @gusty thorn once again, take a breather. Your replies are very agressive ("I hate fanboys", "Get smarter", "Are you braindead ?") while we're just talking about a free to play video game. Literally throwing tantrums in this channel because you're frustrated about an online shooter.

What you want is to be able to go solo and win games without breaking too much of a sweat. Well sorry to disappoint you, but it won't happen, ever. Even if Embark decided to listen to you and offer a solo queue only Ranked mode, you'd still rage about it, because you would get very uneven team mates, up against very uneven enemy teams. Meaning one tournament would be an easy win because you were lucky to get two good players. But the following wouldn't see you go past the first round because you got two bad players.

It is worth noting that "good" or "bad" in a TEAMPLAY/OBJECTIVE oriented shooter doesn't revolve around positive or negative KDR. I just can't count the number of times my friend and I, despite having the best KDR of all teams, lost games/rounds to teams with horrendous KDR. There are many reasons for it: maybe they had better timing around cashouts, maybe they had a better teamp comp/sinergy/strategy than we did, maybe they simply had more luck at one point, and so on. I very often see teams where 1 player has a very good KDR while his mates have negative KDR but huge assist scores, because they spent the whole game supporting that one player, allowing him to win fights and survive, when he wouldn't have on his own.

TL;DR: you'll ALWAYS be at a disadvantage as a solo player in The Finals no matter what, so either embrace the randomness of outcomes that comes with teaming up with randoms, or find reliable team mates to play with. You'll see that the game is more enjoyable for you -even if you lose. Otherwise, find games with solo modes like Deathmatch and stop wasting everyone's time here with your endless complaints.

[proven ibex]

<@&1012034066876473384> please take care of @gusty thorn they forgot this is feedback channel

[pliant lion]

Great to see the addition of the video player reports channel, now I finally got somewhere to dump the recordings of aimbotters who only shoot headshots.

I do have a suggestion to (hopefully) address the amount of cheaters a bit. As soon as somebody is flagged for cheating, either by manual review or because of an anti-cheat, instead of outright banning the player, start trying to annoy them into leaving. I feel like most cheaters will just make a new account if they're banned and continue cheating like nothing happened. Let them play the game, but instead of regular matches put all cheaters into matches with each other, they still feel like they can play and hopefully not make a new account, but they wont bother anyone else. Added benefit is that their queue times will most likely be longer so at some point they might quit altogether if they feel like they don't get enough matches.

If you finally squash the bug where you can't shoot anymore, maybe repurpose it into an effect to use against known cheaters.

TL;DR: I feel like outright banning cheaters won't work for a free to play game, instead it might be beneficial to try to annoy/bully them into leaving the game themselves.

[coral burrow]

thats fair ye, was a bit frustrated as well may have let myself go there for a bit
but in the screenshot u can see the match results
no way on earth that was a actual skilled player, both our team and the other team had more deaths then kills, and that 1 player had 36? or something kills and only a few death mostly in the end, cuz every player that could swapped to grenade launchers in the end
gladly this was my 2nd? i think match i genuilly noticed players including myself getting absolutely deleted across the map with a simple AR, if u blinked ur eyes u were dead pretty much
sad cheaters are a thing its expected it happens in every online games unfortunately nowdays
kernel cheats isnt a fix but perhaps some experienced programmer within finals team has tricks up his/her sleeve to work against it. hopefully.., game has lots of potential but these cheaters are a big ruin for others

[shadow rune]

Game is not fair in ranked at this point, too many leavers and when I stay to fight because clutched a round and a cashout alone, when I die I respawn the furthest point possible...250m away, against trios....(forgot to say I'm bronze against silvers and golds)

[dense niche]

A reminder if your feedback is sent with toxicity towards others here, it will get removed.

If people would like to repost only the feedback part, that's good

[distant chasm]

there will be mouse and keyboard support on console?

[analog dawn]

Ranked should get locked roles to mix up the meta. On of each class on every team. Pre-select class before queing in.

[fierce valve]

I'd like even more chaos in game. More.
Ice Grenades. No/Low friction flooring. Anywhere gravity events.

[misty schooner]

mod beat me here

[umbral root]

respectfully, skill issue ❤️ or reroll the quest unless this isn't the daily one... It's doable, promise. good timing, positioning etc (Lol I'm in favour of not making it a team thing 😂 it's just fun knowing you gotta load 3 cashboxes and all your team mates are trying to do the same so you can rest assured you're all going to be on the ball that rounf)

[shy swan]

cook grenades?

[vestal coral]

but my problem is not just the soloists, but the whole game which is in a sorry state, obscene sbmm, obscene ranking, obscene server, continuous carsh, lag, cheaters, people who abandon and are not punished enough, cross play ( cross play should be based on input controller vs controller and mk vs mk) I'm not saying you have to make solo play simpler but more coherent and correct, plus I've never rated people based on KD ever, for me the KD means nothing especially on the finals, but I complain about the players above gold who don't know how to play in the finals it's like they don't know the basics of the game. So what I ask is to review the sbmm because it is not possible to see people on gold and platinum who do not know what they are doing and most likely also on diamond. So let's put an end to this story that we must necessarily play as a team. It will definitely be more fun but not everyone can play as a team. Taking that away, as I said before, the game is in terrible shape and anyone who denies this is either a fan boy or blind.

[barren crater]

The thing is that the quest is a weekly quest and we've got the same 1 month ago... 15 times is a lot, I don't play the game all the time because of school

[wicked dragon]

I just killed a dude with a flower pot, it was the hardest achievement ever and I was so frickin ecstatic when I managed to get a pot kill but guess what! it didn't register! it did not register boys! I've been trying this thing for months and it didn't register!

[fresh elm]

bro medium shotgun need big nerf. the range is way too long, too much dmg and 6 ammo is too much

[bleak coral]

all those things exist in every single fps game. at least we get some content and frequent updates 🙂

[wheat bay]

👀

[willow jewel]

Can we get a change of events? Every current event feels useless/down right lame. I can’t name a time where an event other than low gravity had a genuine impact on any situation/fight/defense, they’re all boring and should be swapped out

[quick coyote]

🫂

[wraith igloo]

Hopefully ur talking about the game

[fervent vortex]

I don’t doubt they are cheating the issue is besides the cheater list which no one but a few have access to it’s hard to ban

[violet wing]

you deleted my comment, which contained positive feedback and a mostly polite answer to a very nasty behavior. You also forgot one of the plain toxic one who also targeted me just above, but heh.

so to reiterate: Yes, I think the https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1234861791184683060 system can be a great asset, we need new ideas like this one to fight cheating, because on the simply software level it's very hard to keep-up with the hacks. Giving the players the opportunity to point directly at odd behaviors is a great idea IMO. And it can be improved into an integrated system (rather than a discord section) down the line maybe.
@proven ibex thanks for calling for order
@unreal fossil Absolutely agree

@thick sorrel Where is the problem to shadowban people with Constant 10-15 K/D
I think that might be related to the introduction of too many false positives and too much work for the people in charge of the following pleas for unbanning. But just like you, I would really like to understand how some of them are not detected faster.

@dense niche It's fine,lol. I say let him live !

[dense niche]

Apologies friend, sometimes I'm a little blind, if you could reply to the bad/toxic one, I'll get it

[silk hemlock]

Has anyone asked or mentioned the need for HUD scaling and HUD offset? My eye site is terrible and I would love to have the ability to adjust the HUD space on my ultrawide and increase the size. I like to play medium healer and stay on top of what my friends are doing and I have a hard time keeping their health bars in my vision. I wanted to create a ticket about this? But it brought me here going to the embark website lol

[urban venture]

yes its me, it would be great : HUD is not scale for multiple monitors / ultrawide

[lament talon]

M60 is crazy in the hands of a good player I just shredded a medium in less than a second.
I would keep the big mag(70) since it's a MG but only slighty nerf it

[vast sage]

in ranked no matter if I win, lose, or my game crashes I get three up arrows that dissappear right away. I have no clue how ranking up is supposed to work but I'm pretty sure that's not it

[umbral root]

I saw the light of riot shield, I ain't ever going back

[fair bolt]

I think the** Anti-Gravity cube** should lift more than contestants and objects. Should lift some of the gadgets too, not all of them of course, but the ones that need to be deployed in a surface to be working, as Torrests, APS, Mines, Dome Shield, etc. (Zipline and Barricade are attached to the surface, this means if you break its surface they automatically will be destroyed, so those are the ones of the gadgets that are not affected by the anti-gravity cube and its logical.)

[wicked dragon]

tf there's an achievement in game too!?!

[shadow rune]

Same happened to me as well, won 1 round of ranked, got 3 arrows on Bronze 1, won 3 rounds of ranked got 3 arrows on Bronze 1, still no promotion to Silver....if this happens for the third time, than there is the question, Do I have to win a full tournament solo to get silver? If yes, I will just delete the game

(UPDATE: I just played a quick cash, teammates left, I left as well don't wanna waste my time in there alone, now I got 1 down arrow......LIKE WTF)

[silk hemlock]

Has anyone from Embark commented on this? I was really hoping this would come in after the beta, or end of season 1. But I haven't heard anything about it. My guess is they just have bigger issues to fry, but the game seems to be in a super solid state, so I was hoping some QOL would be coming in?

[south tree]

Give the Lewis gun a new skin with a different sight!

[drifting gorge]

Okay all bitching aside, this new mode is gonna be 🔥

[woven atlas]

I gotta say that this time around the game worked perfect for me from all prespectives and it was very fun but only downside is the amount of cheaters.

[vestal coral]

Please remove stun gun

[violet wing]

Oh man, me too I'm PUMPED. (also a flamethrower afficionado right here)
@woven atlas Very often their numbers go down after patches. Then it will be even more enjoyable :D
@vestal coral no.
@hard ridge Because it's too sexy, i'm serious i'm sure it's the most attractive class by far especially with the young players. I would like as a suggestion, some info about player by class and other metrics shown into an infographic like they did during the betas a couple of times. That would be cool.

[drifting gorge]

Hell yeah

Go go gadget random gif

[rough herald]

TEXT! CH\AAAAAAATTT!!!!

[flint ledge]

I think you guys should make the cosmetics tradable, so like on steam i could buy a cosmetic i could sell one and i could trade it

[restive sphinx]

Why can someone be reported 100''s of times and not be banned in this game? this guy with 40+ kills in a match being reported by everyone, is DIAMOND rank and no ban.... how can someone rage hack themselves to diamod and not get banned? @subtle solar

[gleaming summit]

QOL
HUD:
Color HP pool for teammates yellow 70%, orange 40%, red 20%
Let us center the hud this will also fix UWQHD monitors
Let us change the size and colors
Let us change the transparency from Objectivs, Teammates and separate it from HIP and ADS
Bring a steady crosshair this is also an accessibility feature + more options
2D damage taken detection marker option

Other:
Make a separate hotkey for sliding/- crouch the old combination can be left, it will prevent accidental sliding when you have auto sprint on
Reload cancels reload double tab reload button, i dont now why so many devs are not implementing this, its nicer than swap to gadgets.....
Vaulting reload cancel, reload should only cancel when i use my hands for vaulting
Bring back highspeed spins on contestant in the lobbys its fun!
Fix the DLSS ghosting or let us upgrade the version
Ingame chat for teams but you can hide it
better mark system and fixing that you cant move your cursor when you mark enemys
"Why should i have a disadvantage when i ping enemies in combat, you only buff premades with the current system"

Cashout ranked mode
You have to do something against thirparty and griefing how can it be if you are 80% of the game in the lead and the last cashouts has 2x value and the overtime what happen in 95% of the games and you should not lose 30% money if you are griefed out by the other 3 teams 10-20% is enough penalty with the respawn time.
What also needs to be adjusted that it is worth attacking in high elo everyone waits for the last 30 seconds, gives the defender for holding also money it does not have to be much but a compensation.
Increase the kill money to 300$-400$ so that fighting is also worthwhile.

[hasty cliff]

i dont see what the purpose of that would be, its not like skin prices are gonna increase in value over time when they can be bought whenever you have sufficient multibucks. unless of course youre talking about bp skins. so unless you mean something else im not sure it would work well in the game

[glossy bough]

Since the ranked scoreboard shows ranks, can we also update it to show who is partied together? It would be much easier to screenshot players getting boosted by hackers. Doesn't need to be an unranked feature

[novel zephyr]

Please don't do anymore maps like SYSHORIZON. I truly hate that map.

Edit:
I think the map itself is visually unappealing, as if "lazily done" with its very monotone nature and lack of elements. I get the context behind it, but I don't feel it.

Second the map is extremely hard to navigate, it's a bit easier for light classes who are more speedy, medium classes who can use jump pads, but hard for heavies. Overall this map is very hard to navigate compare to other maps.

[scarlet rampart]

can someone explain how the ranked system works. Coos i got second in a tournament and i got 3 up arrows but if i come 4th in a tournament i also get 3 up arrows. is this the same amount of ranked points or what?

[wide summit]

me and my friends love the map

[pseudo latch]

Day 49 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this is a commitment
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[burnt gull]

we really need heavy marketing to make this gsme pop, IVE SEEN NOTHING! Please pay some streamers or something I remember at the start Timthetatman, joewoe and other streamers were playinf but now NOTHINF

[timber hazel]

What’s so bad about it. Out of curiosity. For me, I hate Las Vegas because I mainly use shotgun and the sand storm variation and that stupid cash box on the middle roof thing is the worst to defend without a rifle.

[vast sage]

Ive won the whole tournament before and still didnt rank up so i have no clue, me and a friend who play rank together both have it and just randomly couldn't rank up anymore. I've never just left a ranked game but even when it crashed I still got three up arrows before I even reconnected

[vocal cave]

? literally the best map in the game

[sand marten]

I have to wonder for a M, would a polearm / long spear, be good as a short-range throwable for this class? Or as a melee?

[tight verge]

Haven't mentioned this in a while but still nothings been done. Preformance on older cpus are horrendous. I have a 7 3700x and 3080ti and at 100% total optimized settings I get 80fps in game and frame drops down to 50 to 60. It's just not enjoyable and I have a feeling that's a big reason most left the game for others after launch. It's just not fun to play this competetive fps game at 80 frames when I can go play apex or BATTLEBIT for that matter at 2-3x the frames per second. That might be the reason this game is still doing great on console but not on pc. You can gave the best game in the world but if it doesn't run well, subconsciously it is worse than the game that runs better.

My uninformed theory is the heavy anticheat runtime encryption, decryption stuff is bogging down the cpu. Reason I think this is in open beta I was getting 1440 stable with a 1080 in my system. Defiantly shouldn't have DROPPED in preformance after upgrading 2 generations to a 3080ti lol. Somethings up, and I sincerely ask that this is looked into and addressed 🙏

[violet wing]

It's for tomorrow, today's feriado over there.
@sand marten Someone in this chat proposed the same but for heavy if I remember correctly. That would be a cool weapon.

[broken lake]

I enjoy the map, but I find the destruction to be less satisfying, since the walls kinda dissapear

[willow leaf]

Increase lights health

[quick coyote]

What if the medium had a healing bag with 3 charges think the armor bag that took has in rainbow six heals 50 HP and can't go past

For light instead of invisibility he had a ability that'll give him 50 HP for like 30 seconds and like 50 seconds cool down so you can start a fight or exit a fight with 50 more HP and this wouldn't stack with the medium Idea I had and it has a lengthy animation when activated so it'll have the same feel as invis but with out the frustration

Just a rough idea I had ,leave a reaction of yay or nay

[ionic tusk]

By how mutsh??? 25, 50, 100??? You kinda have to be more specifick if you whant things to happend dude

[sonic hearth]

Finals is five months in and it's still losing players faster than water from a sieve.
you guys need to do a serious balancing deep dive. Nearly everything in this game is fundamentally unfun for both low skill and competitive players. Light is useless in higher skilled lobbies while decimating lower skilled ones.

Cashout rewards third partying and ofttimes the winning team griefs the next best team by stacking cashboxes and 'helping' worse teams defend cashouts. I've played dozens of competitive shooters across thousands of hours and Cashout takes the cake for the worst gamemode I've ever seen. It's not balanced, it's not consistent, it's too punishing for casual players and it's too inconsistent for competitive ones. It's genuinely impressive how you guys created a gamemode that caters to nobody and pisses off everybody after an hour or two.

please for the love of god start doing fundamental changes to how classes are designed, how health and regen works (why take anything other than heal beam?), and what gamemode you want most people playing. Each class has 1-2 viable weapons and 90% of utility is useless. Currently it's the worst of worlds between MOBAs and loadout shooters. Why are there hard counters for most item interactions when you can't swap classes or items midgame?

I love the game but please make huge changes to nearly everything. If this playerbase trajectory continues, you won't have the chance in the future

[hollow valve]

Another point I want to make to the devs is that don't just casually add something just because it's "cool" or "fun". The recent example is the de-materializer.

From the initial thoughts of adding it, "Wow, this thing is soo cool, you can change environment and ambush your opponents, this is definitely outplay." But in real gameplay, basicly no audio out of nowhere 2 grenades blast your team's health to nothing and one clip of fcar kills your team if they can shoot accurately. What's more this gadget renders everywhere unsafe. If you backed to a place to regenerate one de-materializer makes you nowhere to run and hide. And imagine having this in Valorant. One hole in the wall behind the enemies and with normal aiming could easily trade 2 and possibly 3 before enemies kill you.

The point of competition and understanding of the game is prediction. In Battlefield according to the objectives and maps you would know where the enemies are and expect them. In Valorant CSGO from team communication and deaths you could predict where enemies are and hold the angle. In Apex Legends according to gunfire you know where to go and get the best position and hold the possible angels.

But these cool gadgets can create lethal timing and angles out of nowhere so you don't know where or what to expect. Imagine fighting against a de-materializer in a room. Am I supposed to hold the door or the window? But they could de-materialize any wall around you and they know you are in this room. So there is little prediction. These things can create mistakes even you don't make one. And imagine abusing this in the new game mode.

(But I'm not saying these gadgets are overpowered, they are surly unique and creative.)

In the end I still feel this is a conflict between competition and fun. If you want some fun and cool clips, this is all ok. But if you really involve yourself in the game, being killed by the unexpected is just frustrating.

[static canopy]

Punishment for someone leave game should be 0

[sand marten]

Only in casual modes.

[floral prairie]

I don’t play ranked but why thou. Wouldn’t it be more annoying if your team left mid game in ranked?

[solar cradle]

I've thought about this cuz I have a 3090 and on 4k highest settings I get 80-90 fps which is absolutely fine to me but I expected to get 120+ (tv is 120 hz4k)... but yeah I've thought about it ... this game has A LOT going on with the destruct-able environments . I've been rolling a trio of heavies every once in a whole and we just smash every building. my frames drop below 60 fps.

[broken lake]

I think the depth of mechanics is what makes a game really cool and makes you want to play it for longer, personally.

which is my main issue with the balancing in the game. They remove a lot of the higher skill movement tech, or other such things.

Prop surfing got removed, same with stuff like CB dash, which could be chained into several cool movement techs provided you had the requisite skill.

All nukes got nerfed into the ground despite the fact that C4 was always the main issue. Including breach nukes, and breaches in general, which ruined certain breach techs.

It leaves a game that was marketed heavily on the ability to be creative with your gameplay feeling blander and blander with each tech or movement glitch they remove. Espeically if those glitches didn't break the game.

getting ambushed by a demat is pretty annoying though, it should definitely have some loud directional noise to alert you. (like invis does)

[thick sorrel]

Checking false bans (by stats) if they dispute - which blatant cheaters won't do anyway, is less work than watching all the videos of reputed cheaters thru the new report system, which btw is flawed, because legit good players will more likely get reported.

[olive fulcrum]

Embark, if you read this. I love you. Thank you for working on the most fun and coolest Mp FPS I have played in many many years. In an unprecedented time of stagnation in the FPS genre, YOU are the ones moving us forward.

I usually play Quake Live and other older AFPS games because the modern fps offerings are so blah-zeh. Now I just play The Finals. Cheers to the coming years of The Finals and Embark studios. You guys are well on your way to leaving your mark on the genre and the industry. Keep it up!@!

[violet wing]

yeah i was thinking of that while writing the response to be honest. Its more of a defense of the reasons that could be behind the apparent lack of action WITHOUT the new system being taken into account. It makes less sense with it. So... yeah i'm with you I kinda want to know. I trust they are doing their best but seeing some of the cheating in action it's hard to believe they don't get flagged on the spot.

Also maybe they can't divulge too much about their process, because the info would then leak to the hackers, who can in turn work their way around it with less guesswork.

[sand marten]

Ask the devs, they're the ones who made leaving mid-match in casual modes non-suspensionable, whereas in ranked you do receive a suspension.

[frail prawn]

I just got deranked by abandoning a quick cash match????

[regal salmon]

It's the destruction supposedly that eats the CPU

[stoic fox]

No reg shots, consistently. Checked recordings in slow motion to be sure. 3-4 first shots will hit and get an animation for connecting but cause no damage. Frustrating, would like to be able to see my ping.

[tight verge]

That's so weird because isn't everything calculated server-side? It should be pretty preformant since the computer isn't calculating any of the physics itself. Maybe the pc still has to render and fragment all the destruction fragments itself which would bog things down.or maybe it's a more hybrid system where pc calculates so things and server just manages those calculations. Who really knows.

[pseudo breach]

Been complaining about this for weeks now. Don't think it's ever going to change. And also, not sure why there's no ping indicator. It's pretty much a standard multiplayer feature for what almost seems like forever.

[coral glen]

Idea: Remove the Cloaking Device from the Light class and replace it with a "Stim Shot", a tool that allows for rapid and instant health regeneration. The Cloaking Device remains too strong and unfair.

[rapid stream]

Abondoning the ranked quick cash 🙄

[quick coyote]

Matchmaking rework 😡 because 3/4 games are 2v3v3v3 in competitive .... We can t try to fight in 2v3 or tempo a objective because players in gold are not idiot Just rework your matchmaking for be sure to play 3v3v3v3 & not a game with a matchmaking broken

[fiery orbit]

Yo I thought of a new event, smth like an earthquake

[vestal coral]

shhh don't say it too loud otherwise they'll come as fan boys and say that everything is perfect and the problem is you and not them who don't understand anything about video games.

[sand zenith]

I just noticed you can destroy mines and goo with free camera. Probably known bug but I just throw it out here again.

[north gale]

Hot take: nerf katana x dash

[quick coyote]

Not a hot take: you have bad takes

[violet wing]

TOO LATE I HEARD. THE FINALS IS THE BEST GAME EVER.
The game was never perfect far from it, if you've been here since the beginning you should know that. But it's an amazing game nonetheless, a real fresh take on the genre and I truly think it will keep improving over time. I can be wrong, but don't blame me for being optimistic ;)

[floral prairie]

Don’t hate the game hate the player. The game is fun and y ok know it

[sharp mason]

i want the old menu music back 😦

[simple burrow]

this

[drifting gorge]

It's a new feature implemented last update to stop match leavers

[cinder ridge]

Stun gun really is balls

[twin basin]

Buff light

[midnight bison]

voice chat is broken, fix it

[mild token]

so what happens when i report a cheater? it was super obvious, he was shooting people with his back turned to them

[fiery orbit]

Bring Recon Vis back🙏

[night glen]

Whatever is going on with EMBARK's anti-cheat, it seems to be working. At least that is how it appears to me. I have still been running into cheaters, but it is MUCH less often. I applaud these efforts, keep it going, battling cheaters is a constant thing.

[sharp jasper]

Ong i’ve seen less hackers in my games recently, only 1 in the last week

[pseudo latch]

Please nerf stun gun
it lasts too long, it makes you too slow, and it should heal the person you hit with it

[dense ivy]

Please nerf @pseudo latch ‘s stream . It lasts too long, it makes your brain cells die, and it should pay me to watch it

💕😘

[quasi fiber]

I agree it's busted, the data will show

[scenic knoll]

shhhhhhh

[broken lake]

hey, if it dealt 50 damage it could destroy explosive mines at least.

cause someone gave them 50 HP

[plush plume]

There is a bug where you are unable to use abilities or shoot and if you try to shoot you just reload over and over although your mag is full. Sometimes it gets fixed through switching between gadgets but sometimes you need to die for it to reset.

[fiery orbit]

Check if spamming with sword is a 100% safe… I got accidentally a great buff, by randomly spamming with the sword I made myself stuck in alt attack animation, and somehow made it hit waaaayyy faster, making it the fastest ttk Ive ever seen

[vestal coral]

but I agree with you the game is beautiful and I like it. And the best fps of recent years. But let's not hide that it has problems and it's right to report them then the developers will make their decisions

[coarse junco]

Fix when you clearly hit someone with a sword and it does no damage please

[hollow valve]

Recently I have seen another meta which is flamethrower and grid shield combo. Firstly most fight happens in close range if it's about cash station. For a light and medium one clip a heavy in close quarters requires at least 75% accuracy. But there are heavies flamethrower first then instantly grid shield to trade opponents' bullets in the chamber. After that the rest of the bullets couldn't one clip heavy anymore. But you can't escape heavy's flamethrower nor the burning damage. What's more, flamethrower and shield doesn't require skill to aim.

The feedback I can think of is to increase the activate time of grid shield, make it a tactical support gadgets rather than an emergency self preserve spam.

But apart from those, a flamethrower that doesn't require aim to deal damage, a rpg that can instantly deal damage more than half of your HP and potentially peek, grenade launcher spam that could peek 3 shot you and you can't do anything about it, melee weapons that back stab you more than half of your HP but there are so many rooms to hide and no way to gain information. So I just want to ask devs what is our direction? A FPS wouldn't have those. If it's a game to mess around and have fun, these things are fun to play with and cool to have in-game and would do just fine. But for a competitive or tactical FPS game all these things are basicly overpowered or abnormal by nature.

[south viper]

Nerf heavy is my feedback

[loud zephyr]

Give me a katana skin for the sword and turn it to an event if you want

[lime rampart]

Yes agreeeee

[onyx tiger]

i just discovered tracking dart does not work on a light who is standing still and thats ridiculous

[cinder ridge]

throwing knives feel off. maybe its the unstable servers but they just feel weird to use

[vestal coral]

nerfs heavies, too many heavies in the game, it's in the meta and is super overused. As usual, too many players abuse the meta, which is why we need a limit on ranked classes. The heavies dominate the lobbies, so much life and damage, to be absolutely nerfed.

[woven hawk]

Frag grenade indicator please.

Imagine the adrenaline rush of a 1v5; the ultimate showdown.. you're ready to try your hardest & clutch the victory for your team; no mistakes..
Oops you exploded.

Give them 1000 grenades, just let me see them pls 🙏 give us the chance to react. Same with mines, I think jumping over them should work much more often. TY

[willow leaf]

This is entirely true. This game basically needs an entire makeover with a lot of things being completely changed or just removed for better things.

[pseudo breach]

Day 35 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

[thorn tusk]

i hope a day , we can have a detahmatch mode without ghost light

[cinder ridge]

maybe its the same reason i walk around a corner and bullets follow me. Connection in this game is awful. Light (both players and actual light) is awful. You cant see anything when light is in front of you an light players just spawn in and die. Ranked needs a complete overhaul for how you gain and lose ranked. Yes, its a team based game but, your skill should play a bigger part in advancements. Lastly, why are my casual games as sweaty as some of my ranked games. turn off sbmm we dont need it

[versed venture]

You ever play heavies ?

[unreal fossil]

Probably not, 100% of his takes on the game are disastrous tbh. He uses this channel to complain after every game he loses. Great feedback... not.

[signal stirrup]

The matchmaking and cheating is absolutely shocking. How the team can think expecting players to make videos and report hackers that way is mind blowing to me.

[kind light]

1. Why is so hard to see glass windows? Make them less transparent (especially on syshor)
2. Make Strict solo Ranked Queue option, this will revive ranked for any player because chances will be equalized
3. Make it possible to see class of the player even after he disconnects from the game
4. buff weak unusable gadgets, make it more versatile and fun
5. WHY CASHBOX INDICATOR IS DISAPPEARING FROM MY SCREEN WITH NO REASON?
6. Why there is no report for griefing and ruining?

[misty schooner]

Thermal vision and smoke grenade on sushorizon are both in need of fixes, thermal makes it impossible to see anything with the color schemes and you can see through the smoke without thermal visor anyway

[pseudo relic]

Can someone help understand why I go down 2 time in rank?, like I wanna know what cause that?

[vestal coral]

new vomiting, noob friendly, heavy and flamethrowing meta. But why do all PvP gaming communities have to be so crappy and toxic?

[daring fossil]

smoke needs graphics settings parity. If you turn shadows to low, you don't even see most of the smoke and you can see right through it. Thermal vision doesn't even let you see through smoke (unless they changed it) which completely invalidates the ability lol

[wanton rose]

Its just my experience but i think it has something to do with the average rank in your lobbies. If you are in a lobby with the avg rank being lower than your rank and you dont win/get to the final round you lose points most of the time. At least thats what happened to me this entire season. I dont think the system includes performance as much as other factors because i have lost points even for 3rd round eliminations where i had 25-30+ kills total.

[willow leaf]

Lights health should increase by 50 and it should have faster regen

[dim sun]

everyone complaining about light being over powered or underpowered are wrong. Light feels fine as a class heavy and medium need changes the heal shield meta is so boring. im not hoping on this game to play overwatch. medium double heavy should never be the meta it is unfun to play as and against

[short oracle]

zooming into players with sniper scope should highlight players farther
kinda sucks to see if someone is your tm8 or enemy with a sniper, specially from far away, happens a lot on powershift
either that or make it easier to identify at least your tm8s

[lofty crypt]

a little bit buggy

[cinder ridge]

give every gun 0 recoil so the guys w chronus or other recoil packs get pood on for 24 hours straight

[daring fossil]

the 3rd person GL40 reload animation has been broken as long as it's been in the game, also nerf the GL40 its such a brain dead weapon.

Give medium the sniper rifle so people who use it can actually be helpful and it might be fair to fight against people who are actually good with it, and give defibs to lights since they are literally the best class to revive people even though 95% of lights only play for themselves and never revive.

[hollow valve]

Yes about the recoil if there is a pattern many people could use mouse macro or something like chronus to neutralize the recoil and achieve laser beam. Although recoil pattern could be a "skill gap" and random recoil is painful to play with, I still prefer random recoil since there won't be any kind of recoil cheats.

[graceful hollow]

was just joking and agree with u, need oce servers cuz i either need to play with 200 ping on na, or with guaranteed cheaters in asia with 100 ping

[fair helm]

performance has been terrible since last update, it’s not just my system, it’s me and two other people having the same issue. Has anybody else had issues?

[glass fjord]

I second this. So fuckin tired of it.

[scenic knoll]

yeah major latency issues. I uninstalled and installed it and it usually always fixes my issues

[cobalt lava]

how is the fcar still in the game like this. literally just eclipses the entire medium arsenal even though the other weapons are already good

[wintry basin]

How tf does rank system work? Went from gold to plat1 easly. Then on plat 1 no matters how many games i win I simply cant rank to diamod. So absourd that I went 3 finals win + 1 final 2nd place In a row and still I wont rank the fuck up. Is this a trick to keep me playing the game or what?

[daring fossil]

If you aren't going to give us kill cams which is absolutely necessary instead of just reporting every single person that seems sus (which is counter-productive for the people investigating reports), at least let us first person spectate enemies while you are wiped. Since you can free cam anyways and get all the information in the world, being able to spectate enemies first person wouldn't make any difference.

[modern wedge]

its not like theyre forcing us into it

people have already asked for it in the past and its a great step forward, especially seeing as no other game does this
its also mainly for making players more assured that the person they reported has a higher chance of getting banned

embark has been working on some stuff that isnt really needed as of now, but theyre doing good
this entire channel is a bunch of people who dont go outside and expect the dev team to do exactly as they say

[crimson cipher]

hello how can the finals error tfge0027 be fixed?

[midnight bison]

bro what the heck is going on with this game, can't shoot, heal

[timber hazel]

Hey, if it not going to be to hard to implement, can we coustumize our stature? Like maybe a skin. or maybe just make the statues look like our character

[willow leaf]

Lights health should increase by 50 and it should have faster regen

[dim sun]

day 2 of asking to fix the dagger hitbox. its literally a 50/50 to count as a back stab even if you are directly behind them

[cinder ridge]

when is this next update dropping. hopefully ill get a plat or diamond teammate in my lobbies instead of a bronze 1 that drops 500 dmg a game wil 18 deaths

[spark shard]

Seriously, what's happening in ranked tournaments for solo queue? It's extremely insane given this total disaster on matchmaking. Totally stuck in platinum 3. I was diamond 3 playing solo queue all the time last season, however this season is crazy, insane balance.

[shut cosmos]

100% agree. Also plat 3 solo queue. Getting paired with gold 4s going against high plat and even diamond stacks. Yesterday I was paired with a bronze 3. 1/3 of my games I end up with someone who goes something like 1-8 with 500 combat score.

What’s worse is the game crashing so you either can’t rejoin and lose rank or one of your teammates crashed so you end up playing short handed the whole match.

Between game breaking server issues and bugs and matchmaking, solo queue experience is miserable.

[severe wave]

dw lfg isnt any better most people who are still here are not good sadly ranked is just a grief fest right now where teams literally team up against 1 team had people who text each other to get us out

[pseudo latch]

Give us the patch notes early, we’ve been good

[cobalt lava]

(Every problematic weapon nerfed in ways that don’t actually matter) ((again))

[cinder ridge]

yea its ridiculous. top support top damage every game n somehow make no progress bc my teammates are awful

[versed dagger]

Nerf throwing knives

[distant crane]

Nerf range of LH1 and XP (a lot), but buff close range a bit. Put cloack like before. Stungun like before with the low sens. Remove one round of ranked. Buff ak and fcar range. Nerf rpg splash area. nerf Sas range. Make something that hospital is not a cancer point on Seoul.
Stop reading data like you know how to use them in the instant, don't listen to casual they gonna destroy you're game
Make custom with more settings (coin timer, event)
Buff glitch duration to 7/8 IMPORTANT
And nerf barricade
Don't nerf stun gun that just a noob killer against a real person the light still lose half of the dual

[swift geyser]

Please nerf stun gun..

[daring fossil]

dude literally says dont listen to casuals while asking for the most stupid changes I've seen all day, and then DMs me to insult me lol

[midnight bison]

im getting the can't shoot bug again? what the heck

[twin basin]

Yeah just don’t listen to 90% of the playerbase lol

[glacial sierra]

i have played with CL40...why would you give a toss about the APS if you weren't using a grenade weapon lol. i quite often play with CL40 and the APS turret if i'm medium. it's fiiiine.

[night surge]

+1

[frozen elk]

dont nerf light. its so stupid to have a class nerfed so much that it cant even be used in casual play or competitive. light can be so easily countered by just sticking by your teamates. dont listen to the people whining about stun gun cause the truth is, thoses same people are treating a team-centered game like a freakin team death match. light players should not be punnished because medium mains die in a 1v1 500 meters from thier team.

[dim sun]

literally only bad players think light needs any nerfs. the meta is HHM why would you need to touch light at all. Shields and heals make the game not fun

[jagged cedar]

he's a moron but he WAS on to something with the lh1, customs and seoul hospital

[ebon hemlock]

I see nothing but bad takes here (for the most part) Only useful things are bug reports. DEVS please continue balancing while considering mid-higher skilled players as this game seems to be designed around a more competitive experience.

• Healing beam needs to recharge slower and 2 heal beams should not stack the healing process.
• Heavies dome shield should be as follows or something like this: you can shoot out, but not in, regardless of who is inside. And it should take longer to pull your weapon back out after shooting the rocket
• if you nerf light stun, just make it 2 sec minimum and make the recharge of it longer, maybe just a bit shorter than the rocket launcher. I die or have to reposition without killing half the time if not more anyways.

Also please add a grenade indicator and make the mine radius smaller and louder

[crystal umbra]

Sometimes I wonder what it's like in the office of Embarc. As fun and as addicting the gameplay is the reality that we're going to have to face is that a lot of the major feedback we are giving won't be addressed in the next 2 seasons.

That's another 6 months before things like:

• ranked system being underdeveloped
  -anti-cheat/spectate enemies during teamwipe
  -poor Squad-up/group-up system
  & More

[upbeat ore]

I wonder if unranked should see a small penalty for leaving. Every single Bank It game I play sees 4-6 players leave, sometimes two whole teams. Often times I will lose one or both team mates the first time we wipe, and more often than not they won't be replaced.

[sullen inlet]

Random option for different animations of guns to make it more diverse. Even if its just random every round/game.

It would be super ideal and cool to have it random throughout the games though so you get the different variations of reloads, etc throughout the game to make things look more unique.

[dense yacht]

Yes cause they suck and die instantly

[gleaming tide]

Egg throwing knife skin. Thanks

[broken lake]

The meta is nkt only currently HHM or HMM it has ALWAYS been that way since the betas.

And yet light catches the most nerfs, smh

[glass fjord]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP DOING ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE CHALLENGES. IT MAKES PEOPLE DESTROY BUILDINGS THE WHOLE GAME AND DO NOTHING HOLY FUCK

[distant crane]

Most of the Time HLM was the best comp but still light doesnt need a nerf like that I agree.

[frozen elk]

This is by far, the worst post i've ever seen on here, the healing beam rewards players for playing together, and the stun gun punishes players for not being with their team. people like you complaining about the stun gun clearly dont realize that it is still so easy to kill a light if you are stunned, and you just suck if you dont think otherwise.

[cerulean mason]

Day 6 of asking Embark for prop hunt

[cinder ridge]

The stun doesn’t do much I think it’s fine but the heal beam absolutely shouldn’t stack. Stupid decision that creates campy low skill playstyle. Everything he said is pretty based except the stun nerf

[carmine egret]

they need to add second daries idk spell and nerf hevy, buff snipers body damage becuase it takes 4 to 5 sniper shots to kill 1 hevy AND all heavy guns have to much ammo and do way to much damage for mad ammo and 350 heath on top of that

[versed bridge]

A proposed healing beam change could be to have the rate of healing be reduced for every healing beam active on the target but have the charge drain also be reduced in return i. e. 2 healing beams on one person heals at the same rate as one, but the charge on each drains at half the rate

Another proposal is to change RPG to be more of a destruction tool and less of something that feels forced and unfair by reducing damage to ~80 but cutting cooldown by 1/3 or something along those lines

[thorny parcel]

I don't really care about new modes. I just want meaningful balance changes. Took a few weeks break to come back to FCARs, Mesh Shields and Heal Beams. Just do something crazy with meta changes please. Preferably something that changes what everyone ends up using to win.

[limpid lava]

Medium as a class is good, but medium weapons are so crap right now. Would be nice to see the games in a better place.

[violet wing]

Alright, so since Plat4: 3x round 3, 1x round 2, and got downgraded to gold 4. nothing more, no leaving, no disconnecting, never lost round1 .... I'm gonna have to side with the Rank haters on this one lol

[crimson pilot]

hello

[shy token]

Add the ability to buy individual items from store packs (by @shy token and @radiant imp)

What we propose is that the option to buy individual items is made available to not only increase sales of cosmetics but also satisfaction with customisation within and with the game itself.

You could still make it viable by using a method of (i.e pack multibucks cost ÷ items in bundle = individual price) this would allow a lot of people to pick and choose what they want to customise their character with, in a game with as much customsation as this already has, it just makes sense.

It would also give you a metric on what items are most popular and which aren't and invest more time and energy into making similar items perhaps to maximise capital.```

[dim sun]

the fcar is literally the best gun in the game wdym

[zinc carbon]

Revolvers travel speed feels like 2 feet per secound and flamethrower is broken

[willow leaf]

Lights health should increase by 50 and it should have faster regen

[willow kindle]

they should add a cardboard rank as its where some of us truly belong

[dreamy gull]

Searching for ranking tourny taking forever right now why is that?

[violet solstice]

Light Cloak should be reverted back the way it was b4 the recent nerf > Stun gun should just get a range nerf > Defibs should be taken off Medium & given to Light to give light a more team orientated game utility

[slow sandal]

I think power shift should have a timed/rolling respawn (say every 20 seconds?), that naturally encourages teams to regroup after wiping. It often ends up where people just sort of mindlessly run towards the platform and feed the machine. Obviously, a smarter group would wait anyway, but that's the same as just having a team respawn, and wouldn't allow spawn camping as much either.

[crimson pilot]

alguien habla español

[woven hawk]

They're just trying to make the most players happy, and unfortunately most players run M or H. This means most of the complaints they get are probably from M or H.

[versed dagger]

Nerf dagger 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[visual bronze]

can we buff some weapons for once

[broken lake]

the way things are going, I'm halfway expecting that we're gonna actually see a movement by the heavies to get dagger nerfed because "a backstab shouldn't deal that much damage"

either that or them wanting dashstabs removed

[unreal fossil]

Actually all I've seen since the last patch was Lights complaining

[worn sigil]

This season is more about winning streak, as you lost your Semi Final after x amount of tourney dubs, the stream was lost and it starts again

[quartz shell]

I think if there's more than 2 turrets in a team they should be damage nerfed

[dry kiln]

Anybody having problems seeing player names

[split drift]

This guy’s aim assist is a little too good.

[quick coyote]

The hit registration in this game is 100% fucked at this point. If Embark doesn't address or acknowledge the fact that their server side destruction causes serious issues, it doesn't matter what content or maps or whatever they do otherwise. At all. You don't show our pings because you know we'll leave when it says 300. We have no idea what region we're actually playing in. There's stark differences between how the game feels when the servers are good or bad, presumably based on location. Its getting old closing a door, turning a corner just to die somehow from the person chasing us. Consistently. Multiple steps.

Also, its absurd I can shoot a fat ass heavy for 300 damage before his acorn brain turns around and 1 shots me with an rpg. but nerf cloak more pls.

[daring fossil]

If you want us to submit video reports, show the entire embark name plus the number on the scoreboard. I'm not going to click on everyone I report and write down their name.

[stable lagoon]

For next season, please bump up account level rewards to 500 or more, also add more weapon n gear recolors, like at least 10-20 more plain colors and 20-30 more patterns. Let people have more options when it comes to customization.

[crimson pilot]

Someone speaks Spanish

[worn sigil]

As we're getting closer to the master circuit, the challenges are supposed to get harder.. but I feel they are just the same old ones 😭 I think everyone should have identical challenges but make them actually pro level standard! 💯

Even a noob can claim to be a pro at this rate! 🤣

[quick coyote]

I am so fucking done with ranked. It has quite literally become third party simulator. Every time I finish an engagement and go for a steal, another team will come and teamwipe us. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. The engagements are never fair, we either win the first initial gunfight and then get wiped because of a third party coming out of nowhere, or we third party and wipe the floor with everyone. It's stupid as fuck and I genuinely hate that you HAVE to third party to win. Yes there's 2 objectives to evenly split up the engagements, but apparently it doesn't fucking help at all because I'm constantly either third partying or getting third partied. Yes, I know the devs can't really do anything about it, but my god it is fucking annoying that there's only one way to win, and it's to have an unfair advantage

PS, this has happened in the past 10 games, hence why I'm so pissed about it. There is literally nothing I can do except third party other people to win. Fair engagements? Never heard of them.

[quick coyote]

They will 100% make the new game mode the ranked mode for this reason. The game is one big cheesefest as it is and its only getting cornier and cornier. And their hit detection bad and getting worse continuously.

[pallid stirrup]

question: do you stop gaining xp for the battle pass after you hit level 50 career?

[violet solstice]

1.) Light Cloak should be reverted back the way it was before the recent nerf. There was nothing wrong with it. Cloak can be seen, can be heard, any damage taken from anything already auto uncloaked the player & player auto uncloaked from the 1st bullet fired & couldnt be used while firing. 150HP vs 250 - 350HP & uncloaked from the 1st shot never guaranteed a kill!

2.) Stun gun should be a close range weapon/utility so if it has to be nerfed I think just a range nerf is all it needs. I never had a problem as a H or L hip fire killing Lights after I was stunned.

3.) Defibs should be taken off Medium & given to lights to make light a viable team player/contributer. Medium already has healing beam for team utility & doesnt need Defibs as well.

The constant nerfs are a reason why people are leaving this game. Players spent countless hours learning & mastering a Class & every nerf (like the recent cloak nerf) forces players to spend more countless hours learning & mastering either the same class again with a nerfed utility or having to use & learn an alternative utility or another class altogether. No-one wants to spend countless hours learning & mastering a class, working their way up the skill lvl to have to start all over again, wasting countless more hours learning & mastering a class. All the while not knowing what the next nerf will bring & possibly having to start the process all over again. With only 150HP it takes SKILL to play Light Class no matter what loadout u choose. M & H have so much more HP & heavier better weapons & utilities than a Light. Surviving as a light, getting kills & assisting ur team is always pushing shit up hill.

[stable lagoon]

Tbh I like the tournament mode too, but wouldn't mind having 2 ranked modes for different playstyles

[glossy tartan]

I wish more contracts were about starting cashouts rather than stealing them

[cobalt lava]

Sweet lord and heaven above please nerf the fcar in this patch

[coral axle]

mods or workshop support

[quick coyote]

light with defib is way too busted

[arctic pumice]

If you remove defib what does medium have. Medium is the support class. Light works as a damage booster and ambush tactics. If you want to play support play medium. @violet solstice

[pseudo latch]

FCAR is off my shit list for the moment, what the fuck is the LH1 doing plinking people for 50 damage at up to 90 meters, how has this gone unchanged?

[versed dagger]

lets give light the sledge

[quick coyote]

Its a rifle, its not a shotgun lmao

[violet solstice]

so u mean that heal beam, aps, turrets, jump pad, zipline, mines, etc etc etc isnt enough for a Medium to survive?? LOL What does Light have to assist the team??? Glitch nade & a portal??

[thick minnow]

Is it me or when a quick match is finished, you could previously queue up for the next match with the same randoms you were matched with. Now I get a new team every time. I could of sworn month ago I could remain with my same random teammates into the next game.

[willow jewel]

stun is just bad for the game, its not fun to instantly lose a fight cus someone hit you with a gadget from mid

[cold pilot]

w00t#1302
aimbot, wallhacker, norecoil

[cobalt lava]

Lh1 is the most egregiously stupid weapon in the game but it’s on light so at least it has a downside. It still needs a fire rate nerf in half though at the cost of a damage buff of 1. And then it needs to have its minimum fall off nerfed to 50m

[polar shell]

on the 'WINNERS' screen there should be two voice options 'Good Game' and 'Awww nuts'

[proud plank]

Make private games not require 6 players to start really kills the potential of 1v1’s or lesser player solo bank it games

[wintry frost]

Edit: posted on wrong account lol
If I set a custom value of "FrameRateLimit" (e.g. 72 fps) in GameUserSettings.ini, it gets reset (to 75) every time I restart the game. I would like it to stay that way for a better display experience.

[rose surge]

Revert the cloak nerf or I'll be very sad 😭

[hollow valve]

For revolver I think can learn from Apex Legends(wingman pistol) to increase ads strafe speed.

For the design I think not every marksman/sniper is supposed to have slow ads strafe and revolver is also lighter by nature.

I have seldomly see mediums use revolver and if they use they are just bad. So I think can learn from apex's formula to make revolver a more skill required weapon by buff ads strafe speed even faster than smgs to make you hit enemies more difficultly and enemies hit you more difficultly.

[night surge]

no lmao

[grizzled canopy]

Day 27 of asking Embark for medieval bundles

[onyx hound]

can we add a damage range fall off to the lh1, the revolver got it like 2 weeks into the game launching yet im still getting 2 tapped from sniper range

[abstract harbor]

Another super duper fun time in the ranked playlist, getting dominated by cheaters! Look familiar, @split drift ?

https://imgur.com/a/LzOpAhd

[ebon tendon]

skill issue

[ebon hemlock]

Rank check? I'm Diamond 3 and only play Light. I was saying IF they nerf stun don't make it worse than that. Healing beam is fine, but you shouldn't be able to stack 2 healing beams on 1 person. That is op. You are just too dense

[clever furnace]

Most of my tournament wins were MMM in plat/diamond elo but heavy is really damn strong rn

[willow leaf]

Lights health should increase by 50 and it should have faster regen

[sudden tangle]

Based

[cobalt lava]

GOOD LORD PLEASE SHINE YOUR HOLY LIGHT UPON THE FCAR AND THEN STRIKE IT DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS ABOVE

[hollow valve]

You can test it in the shooting range, no revolver and lh1 can 2 tap you in the sniper range, the best they can do is revolver 2 tap you in the head and it's in close quarters(10 meters). Actually I feel revolver is kind of useless in the long range(or perhaps this is how devs want it, no long range spam for the medium).

[cedar haven]

good gaming chair

[woven pecan]

Yeah, same. I'm not sure how this game works but man I am really tired of it.

[rose jungle]

If the rejoin match functionality is there for ranked matches, please add it to casual games. I was having such a good game and because I couldn’t rejoin, my teammates and opponents now think me a coward

[charred crest]

seems like alot of people here are plat or diamond, i'm gold 3 consistently playing with majority plat lobbies. occasionally with full diamond teams. what is going on? i usually run solo, but even when i 3 stack im with golds or silvers too. its frustrating because I dont think theres any multiplier for beating teams in higher ranks than you, so im just getting a lucky 2nd or 3rd round playing with teams full of players several ranks above me. anyone have ideas or similar experiences?

[compact current]

Please please please fix the cheating problem, its infuriating playing against cheaters every 3 matches.

[violet yoke]

anybody else having problems with the ENTIRE GAME

[lament depot]

one of my teammates was using aimbot, i saw it in their spectator view, they left the match and were replaced by another random. so now their name doesnt appear in the player list so theres no option to report them

this is extremely frustrating

[quick coyote]

question: why doesnt the CL-40 and MGL32 dont count to grenage damages for the weekly contracts spite the fact they are literal grenade launchers?

[quick coyote]

name checks out

[cedar basin]

Been on for 1:40 with two friends and only gotten into one game. 20min+ queues :/

[willow leaf]

I agree with this guy

[dark cedar]

Poderiam apenas adicionar a quantidade de jogadores online em cada modo , demora muito as vezes achar partidas

[teal minnow]

15 steal cashouts everytime i think well get easier challenges or not so tedious no everytime i love the game but please it took several hours for the last ones please make it so as a team it progresses ❤️

[willow jewel]

i've never had a queue above 40s idk where ur living

[ebon tendon]

change your region, its night night time for a lot of places rn

[split drift]

I took a 2 week break because of cheaters ruining this game came back and my first game was cheaters. Im D3 got to top 1k and said screw this game. Such a shame it’s gonna die like it has been if they keep doing nothing to change it.

[frail wave]

REMAP Seoul, if first point is at Hospital it's a free point after you destroy bridge
Make the bridge indestructible like the other side or add cover

If Cashout is at Hospital there's literally no point in pushing it unless all teams are fighting for it

PS. Add MUSIC KITS i miss the season 1 ost

[hollow valve]

Yes. This is another part that looks "cool" and "fun" but without real consideration. If this is an game to mess around with your friends, destruction is impressive and a sell point. But if you play competitively, all these are just painful to play against.

[daring fossil]

I agree on all 3 points, (I hate cloaks but it didn't need to get nerfed again) however the stun is a crutch, the optimal way to nerf it would be to half its range and make it more like it was in CB2 where as soon as you take damage the stun effect ends, but ALSO make it so it lowers your turn sensitivity too like it was in one of the betas. This way it can be used as an actual utility and explicitly won't work to get free/easy kills. So if you stunned someone, they would actually be completely useless for the duration of the stun, but don't have to worry about being beamed without being able to fight back. I main light with LH1 and you can't hit a goddamn thing hipfiring the LH1, so I've been mostly playing medium lately because of it. If all the guns hipfires were equal i'd be fine with just a range nerf, but they aren't. I guess we'll see tomorrow since the stun was supposed to get a nerf last week before they decided not to release a patch last week.

@hollow valve LH1 I don't think has any damage falloff and you can 2-tap people from sniper range with it. It's literally the only good weapon to kill snipers with besides another sniper. (just tested it, can 2 tap a light from 70m away, I had to blow a hole through the house just to test it)

[drowsy stump]

Lights will keep evolving to be scummy the light class is meant to be aggressive there is no fixing broken.

[daring fossil]

they aren't though, people who play light agressively are doing it wrong (95% of lights). It's literally the weakest class and the only thing broken on it is the stun gun (and maybe the sword because of emote cancel)

@hollow valve yeah i don't think there's anything wrong with the LH1 (unlike some people) I was just pointing out it can 2 tap lights at sniper range

[hollow valve]

Yes. Although Lh1 doesn't have damage drop, but Lh1 can only two tap light by two headshots, not even one headshot and one body shot. And for medium and heavy it needs more hits. One balance philosophy in older battlefield I like is that you can only kill enemies by 3 shots with marksman, if two you must have hit a headshot which requires skill. So I feel the current situation about Lh1 is fine. But as for no damage drop it might be what devs intended. But anyways the damage design must fulfill the role that it is intended, I guess this is a problem whether the devs feel fine or not.

As for counter sniper, the gleam of your sniper scope already has given your position. In Battlefield if you peek from one place for multiple times you are basicly ask others to shoot you...... So change position constantly with sniper if someone is focusing you I think.

[proud eagle]

Tell me babe, whats the issue. i can solve anything in the world

[mortal rose]

change your crushed by opponent to cheated by opponent

[willow leaf]

Lights health should increase by 50 and it should have faster regen

[dapper geyser]

What the heck is going on with the spawn points lately? I keep getting spawned with my teams across the bloody map. I also second the third partying everyone else is talking about. Also the server ping stuff is kinda sus. What's going on with the netcode? I've noticed some latency and lag throughout games a bit more lately. Some games ping feels higher than others.

[quick coyote]

Also in practice range.. adding real bots

[quasi niche]

Add a 1v1 system in private matches

[quaint badger]

i think being able to change what the bots are doing in the practice range would be nice for aim training, something like r6 siege developed

[daring fossil]

@quick coyote @quasi niche
they have to spin up a server for every single private match, and servers are expensive and that cost comes from Embark. Devs said they would test and see how expensive it would be to spin up a server for 2 people, but I wouldn't hold my breath, and I wouldn't blame them.

There's a reason why the practice range map is an unknown number of a bunch of practice ranges running on a single server that's always running. Spinning up a practice range for 1 person is not feasible.

allowing a party into a practice range with friendly fire off definitely needs to happen though.

[jaunty dome]

1v1 in range plz

[honest fractal]

possible to add death replay function or something similar? And please make online friend status (like matching on in game) more visible

[quaint forge]

Bruh why the f did I get two arrows down in plat when I got to the second knockout round? I had an average of 4k on the first match and rhen 5k on the second round but ofc I derank because I was doing alright

[main knot]

Jumpad, Crane, zipline (the best for movment), tp ganate...

[uneven mountain]

medium with zipline or bounce pad. or light that uses a vanishing bomb on the whole team

[ionic panther]

cant log in due to error tfla0029 any solutions pls help

[quick coyote]

Next Season Please Include

• Favorite Cosmetics or Clothes ( I can heart This shirt or this gloves and it'll be pinned at the top and have a heart icon at the top)
• Custom Outfits / Presets / Saveable Lockers

[hollow valve]

Firstly no light would commucate the team to use the vanishing bomb. And if they used u can still notice the invis team. As for jump pad and zipline, oh boy I love aim tracking them to death in max 2 clips.

[spice sun]

The finals is the game that bring back my discord group (professionals gamers and old pros). We all agreed back then to say The Finals have the best potential in term of fun and in the competetive scene, We all agree that now the finals is worse than any other FPS available. In high lobby ranked meta is double heavy sometimes double shield. In pubs its cloack spammers. RECON was there to counter clock now there is nothing. Heavy is still f broken in high elo. It has become worst than overwatch now its only abilities. No gun skill nothing. We have 2 pro in apex, one in COD, one is in OWL, we all agree to say CLOACK is NOT FUN for pro or casuals players. The balance team ruined the game for us. Dont fucking say skill issue we are pros in other games. Fuck you balance team (medium classes is bullsht now) fuck you devs (actually i love you im just really mad at you) and fuck you players for being abilities spammers. Skill has not been found. We are 3 with a KD higher or close to 5. Lowest is 3KD. Our current goal is to decimate the lobbies and spawnkill people using cloacks. We will do our best to disgust players as much as we can. There will be no fun no more.

[bitter wave]

Have to do something about the mediums in the new gamemode litterally 2 mediums can make it dang near impossible to touch that platform especially since they can heal and not having to worry about grouping because of their aps. It desperately needs work. The aps need to have a limit or have its aoe nerfed. Its annoying to have the answer to groups( being explosions to deal damage to the healers to make them back up when they cant be touched by anything that would help that happen. Imbalances like this and all the cheaters is exactly why me and my buddy have made the decision to leave till stuff starts changing.

[fluid lily]

Yo, just finished a ranked match, was plat 4 Q'ing with Gold 1 friend, our 3rd random mate disconnected quite early in round 1, we lost the round but put in great effort ( objective and kill score wise ). Rank score went down 2 arrows 💀 . If this is how it's meant to be, then so be it, but I have a feeling it's not.

[stable lagoon]

Please ffs add rank forgiveness for when u lose a match with less than 3 teammates

[gleaming tide]

Egg throwing knife

[mint raft]

Recent ranked match 2 eentire teams disconnected when second to final round loaded. So basically we had a 3v3 two rounds in a row. I feel really bad because the enemy team ended up getting totally crushed by us. There was no way for them to get disqualified so they had to endure that and I can imagine that being really not fun. I have no idea what' up with the server but this is actually pretty common for people to disconnect between rounds loading. I've even had a match where I reached the final round but the enemy team only had one person. Two entire teams disconnecting is crazy. I would be lying if I said I didn't sometimes feel relief for the easy win but at the end it sort of takes the feeling of accomplishment out of reaching the finals (y'know, the whole theme of the game)/winning the tournament. It's even worse for the teams that are affected by their teammates getting disconnected. I'd be pretty angry if I dumped a lot of effort into getting to the final rouund only to find out my team is gone and now I have no chance of winning.

[tall herald]

ok besides my usual "fix the report function" it would be really nice if some of the task would become like team tasks, because its hard enough sometimes to even get a steal but to get 15 personal steals is damn hard, i think i will do it in time, but it feels damn hard grindy, its just sad that i dont get a steal even my team stole last match a cashbox and i even healed the stealer to secure him but it wont count for me... doenst feel good

[crimson pier]

An idea to emphasize the game show feeling more in The Finals!

Allow players to choose 1 out of 2-4 sponsors to represent (OSPUZE, ISEUL-T, HOLTOW, VOLPE, etc.)

(The stat tracked can be changed bi-weekly if you wish) An example for now would be that at the end of every 2 weeks, the “faction” (sponsor) that players had earned the most wins for is victorious and all players that chose that sponsor will earn a small prize.

This could be a great way to get the community together, as well as emphasize the game show feeling of The Finals which lots of people feel we have been missing out on!

[drifting gorge]

YOU GUYS COOKED THIS PATCH I LOVE YOU

[rough herald]

nerf the weakest class some more embark

@echo viper light is not dead, the stun gun is, but god damn it why do they have to nerf the weakest class in the game

@static wolf read again

[echo viper]

Light dead ggs

[daring sundial]

Are there any plans to add a death replay to the game? I think it would help greatly in identifying cheaters and reducing false reports, sniper across the map is insta report but those subtle aimbots are hard to guess, would be great to see it they are cheating or not

[junior siren]

did they do something for the ranked like a good change with lp or idk ?

[lime lichen]

No revolver buff? Seriously?....

[tiny storm]

yall read this?

"When we catch cheaters, depending on the level of offense, we may provide a 7 day ban or a permanent ban. If the offender is cheating for a second time, the ban will become permanent."

Imagine, giving cheaters a SECOND CHANCE..WTF am i reading??

LOL

[uneven mountain]

halfed ranked tournaments? the uprising is calling

[short oracle]

TY for 24 players ranked

[wicked tiger]

It's ridiculous.

[royal pumice]

Just came to comment on the same thing, cheaters should be an instant perma ban. This rule is a joke.

[silver forge]

Correct me if I'm wrong but why do cheaters get a suspension for cheating? They should get a perma ban, no exceptions...